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00:00 I have a niner. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday April 3rd 2025 this year award winning Kill For Nation Media Assassination episode 1752 This is no agenda Feeling liberated! And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six In the morning everybody i'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where it's time to filibuster the show I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning! I want everyone to know that John and I are wearing catheters on the show so we can continue to bring you the best media deconstruction non-stop. They always say that, well... That person who stood there for 24 hours had a catheter. Remember that crazy woman who did that?

00:55 Yeah, yeah. Are you talking about the space astronaut? No no she was wearing a diaper! I think Cory Booker's wearing a diaper makes more sense as a Democrat There was another filibuster... Ted Cruz did one No it was in the Texas Senate i think Just the abortion bill or whatever it was? Yeah, it was that Wendy Davis. That's who it was. Wendy... Wendy Davis! What ever happened to Wendy? She disappeared. I remember- well whatever did happen to Wendy Davis. I remember because I was still in Austin then and I think In fact, I think I still hung out with the artist and her The artist. Another one gone by

01:50 I met her. She came to San Francisco for some art exhibit. Yeah, because she's an artist! Yeah, she was wacky. Yes, she was running for governor and I remember it like... The artist? No no Wendy Davis Not the artist. Wendy Davis. Oh Wendy Davis, she is so brave, she is so courageous You know she was wearing a catheter. She was cathedrazed. She's amazing To be cringe. Yeah, so that's exactly what they said of Cory Booker but I'm with you! I think he was wearing a diaper. I think that's much more realistic. What was that about? Do you have any clips of that? Please tell me... I only have the summary clip. 24 hours of that! Let's see what was it? Is it under Booker maybe or what is it? Oh let's see... Borey. Booker. I got Booker. Booker short report

02:48 This is a lot shorter than what he did. New Jersey Democratic Senator Cory Booker has been speaking on this floor of the U.S Senate since Monday evening, saying he's protesting President Trump's agenda and PRS Deidre Walsh has more. Booker began speaking on the senate floor around 7 p.m local time and said he would remain there for as long as he could to use the platform to highlight his opposition to Republican policies He stood and declared his intention to, in his words, get in some good trouble. I rise with the intention of disrupting the normal business of the United States Senate for as long as I am physically able. Oh, Cory! Booker's extended speech is not likely to delay any legislation and is not technically a filibuster He'll read letters he has received from constituents worried about possible cuts to programs like Medicare Medicaid and Social Security Senators from both parties have used similar tactics to draw attention to issues even when they were unable to stop senate votes Well it completely fell flat

03:50 It was a lunatic. You know, the thing they tried to dramatize it on NPR... I didn't get this clip but they went on and compared it to the James Stewart movie Mr. Smith goes to Washington and how James Stewart was he was there protesting the corruption and it did wait they would as they presented I'm starting to think wait a minute Cory Booker's actually protesting the anti-corruption yeah he was protesting for corruption you wanted more government more waste please we want more waste

04:27 No, this is so I think Chuck Schumer started another like alright everybody we can do this. We all get together and we can flood the zone will tell everybody what they're doing there that let's just lie oh i'm sorry let's tell them that they're going to take away your social security granny! They are doing exactly what the Republicans did with the granny in the wheelchair remember that? They are pushing Granny over the cliff I remember that, yeah. So they put together a war room, a social security war room and they all got together and we're gonna do some speeches and we're gonna scare granny! Look, Social Security has always been the third rail in American politics you touch it you get burnt George W Bush learned that the hard way these this Trump Doge

05:21 The George Musk Vote Administration is in such a bubble, they don't understand it. They are so frothing at the mouth for tax cuts... For Jacques Hughes! Jacques Hughes! Who's frothing at the mouth Chuck Schumer? ...is in such a bubble they do not understand it. They are so frothing at the mouth... Think about a gas lighter Oh, it gets better because we got Warren and that other old bag here tax cuts for the wealthy that they're willing to even touch Social security and they're not just touching it. They're trying to destroy it. It's time to strangle it Elon Musk makes

06:00 million dollars a day. The American dream! From the federal government and he wants to take away the $65 a day that the average Social Security recipient gets this is really ugly it's I mean it's such a lie there is no truth, no evidence whatsoever this...this is actually now you are scaring granny and other people People and people actually are looking at their check. Well, let me get my check Let me see if they cut it Trump and Musk know that they don't have the votes in Congress to cut Social Security so instead they're trying backdoor cuts by Dismantling the agency that makes sure that Americans get the benefits They are legally entitled to how does that even make sense? So they know they can do it but they're gonna you know close

06:52 Close the door they're gonna stop the checks. They're gonna lay in front of the mail truck Social Security is under siege The chainsaw is pointed at their earned social security benefits We believe Republicans have manufactured a crisis with Social Security and the reality Fully funded for generations if Congress eliminated the payroll tax cut cap for billionaires and collected the money that they are illegally evading in taxes. So, they're getting a head start by laying off people who are responsible for collecting taxes owed by the wealthy

07:28 So then they had another tactic. Well, I know what we'll do! We'll tell everybody Elon's quitting because we're getting to him! Let's stay in the US where media reports are saying that Donald Trump has told close associates that Elon Musk will soon step down from his job in the administration Mr. Musk is head of the Department of Government Efficiency or DOGE, where he's in charge of cutting federal bureaucracy. Reports emerged after an election in Wisconsin that developed into a test of Musk and Trumps popularity in the state. The tech billionaire poured billions of dollars into the election to pick a new judge on Wisconsin Supreme Court

08:07 Musk's Trump-friendly candidate lost to a liberal. The White House responded to the report by saying that Musk will depart from public service when his work at DOJ is complete So they started this rumor, oh Elon's quitting always leaving everybody jumped on it the news the news Ed News Here's NBC's version. a

09:03 the heads up doge and of course has become a key figure in this administration that he would be going back to the private sector. And the White House official tells me that this would be at the end of his 130 days as a special government employee, of course that would be in late March so of course Kate... How will it be late March? of next year and that his candidate lost significantly in that race. This all comes in that timing, but again the White House saying this was in the works before this and it's just simply Elon Musk's role as a government employee running its course. I will say when Musk is running around on stage with cheese on his head, you are Trump's monkey boy!

10:00 He'll do whatever he wants you to. I thought that was bad, but we all know the bottom line is Elon is political poison. This morning you can find some Democrats smiling maybe for the first time in the last few months after some good special election results and outright win in Wisconsin and some better margins in the state of Florida. So what does it all mean, and what really happens? Data analyst Harry Enten is here let's start with a little bit of Wisconsin right on a moose boosh on Wisconsin. Moose Boosh! Like some sorbet

10:42 How do they come up with these? The chef has a special treat especially for you. A spoon of goo! You know, I had dinner the other night at what's it called here... It's Cabernet Grill which is actually probably the best place to get steak and you know what they had as an amuse-bouche A specialty from the chef before? A single pistachio. No, no, it's Cabernet grill man we're Texans know they had deep-fried deviled eggs this was... That's a scotch egg

11:22 I believe. Well, but I mean no because it was really they had really done the devil thing inside you know so it was half an egg and they put the filling in so it was really a deviled egg not a scotch egg is just for the whole egg but anyway that was their amuse bouche oh that's interesting how was it? It was probably tasty! It was fantastic Yeah, yeah we go nuts here. We try all kinds of stuff in the deep end. I like it! who's Bush on Wisconsin. This was a race Elon Musk spent big in this great race to sway the Supreme Court race there and he also went to Wisconsin which may honestly have backfired yeah I think it may have backfired look i think that there's one thing we should be taking away from the results of Wisconsin and the polling that we have from Wisconsin The National if you are a Republican candidate running in a swing state, you don't want Elon Musk anywhere near you yes maybe like the money but you do not want his presence in your state

12:22 Why is that? Elon Musk simply put, is an unpopular guy. He is political poison! Look in Wisconsin his net favorable rating minus 12 points under water. The stats guy... They forgot to mention that Soros spent more. That's what happened. They try to downplay the Soros thing I've seen a number of stories where they don't even mention Soros it's just one side was backed by a billionaire and the other side oh grassroots yeah total grassroots yes And at this point it's got to be Alex. Anybody but Soros, but no. No, Soros is great And I think it's Open Society Institute which has got to be Alex at this point. I mean George Yeah, no George isn't doing anything We need we need to say Alex Soros just make make it clear and is he now married to Abedin? Is that all done today? Did that happen? I don't think so

13:26 Abedin. Political poison, look at him. Abedin. Wisconsin is net favorable rating minus 12 points under order that's an even worse number when you look nationally it's minus 17 points Dude dude easy does it So if there was one big lesson to take away from Wisconson Elon Musk does not help Republicans when he shows up If anything, the data suggests that he hurts him. Republicans stay clear of Elon Musk if you want to win in a swing state at least in terms of his physical appearance in your state. Oh especially with that cheese on his head I'll agree! I think the cheese on his head was a mistake...I would not have advised that. Cheese heads? I would not have advised it!

14:08 They deteriorate after about 10 years. Oh, they get to...they start to break away like in chunky pieces? No it's just like a turns into a powder it's like a bad type of plastic. Get rid of that! They're made out of foam Yeah you should get rid of that that's probably toxic Yeah, I can't find it. With a mic? Hmm...I'm not surprised. It's out somewhere. I don't know where it is. So all of this fell away in the backdrop of and- I'm just gonna say we didn't know what happened this way. It was unexpected but I think we now are officially in World War III That's what this is! It's a trade war but we're in World War III Liberation Day and we did it backwards We celebrated liberation first then we started the war

14:55 It's been amazing to watch. I've just been like, because nobody knows what is going to happen with these tariffs every economist oh it's gonna be great! Oh it's gonna be the worst thing ever! The whole world is gonna go into recession! Depression 1930...it's all over! Oh no this is gonna make America the best It's MAWA, MAWA, MAWA. That's the new one, MAWA! Make America wealthy again. My fellow Americans this is Liberation Day. April 2nd 2025 will forever be remembered as the day American industry was reborn The day America's destiny was reclaimed and a day that we began to make America wealthy again

15:44 We're going to make it wealthy, good and wealthy. For decades our country has been looted pillaged raped and plundered by nations near and far both friend and foe alike American steel workers auto workers farmers and skilled craftsmen we have a lot of them here with us today They really suffered gravely. They watched in anguish as foreign leaders have stolen our jobs, foreign cheaters have ransacked our factories- Ransacked! Foreign scavengers have torn apart our once beautiful American dream we had an American dream that you don't hear so much about you did four years ago and you are now but too often for many years and decades even you didn't hear too much about

16:29 Our country and its taxpayers have been ripped off for more than 50 years But it is not going to happen anymore. It's not gonna happen There were a couple of really interesting things about this announcement I was watching the I was watching CNBC and Fox News And watching the after-hours numbers the after our training and everything kind of closed on us it really surprised me everything closed up and And it was as if no one believed he was going to do this. The minute he brought that wacky chart out, that board... Boom! Everything started tanking everyone's like oh this is the worst of all worse possible scenarios we didn't expect this well what did we do? I'm like you didn't expect him to actually do this and there was something else in this speech because it's not really about tariffs

17:22 But a whole bunch of other things. They manipulated their currency, subsidized their exports. Stole our intellectual property imposed exorbitant VAT taxes to disadvantage our products adopted unfair rules and technical standards and created filthy pollution havens they were absolutely filthy but they always came to us and they said we're violating China for it

18:07 It's all detailed in a very big report by the US Trade Representative on foreign trade barriers. And I'll just hold it up for you, it's- Big report! Available and you don't have to pay too much as I understand it. You're paying nothing. Big report. A lot of work A lot of work for something actually because it's a special, it's a special book. It's very frankly, it's very upsetting when you read it when you see what people have been doing to us for 30 years So it's the best book ever. It's the best best book ever thirty years. Go ahead thirty Oh yeah Best book is a beautiful book I started reading the book and like my eyes are glazing over from this book

18:47 And the way they calculated, and what was surprising was with a reciprocal. And so the president put exactly 50% tariffs of all the tariffs that have been put on us. So if you had 40%, then you got 20% from us and the economists are flabbergasted at how they did the calculation. Some economists have figured out the way- What? I wanted to, since you were on the Trump clips. I had a couple of clips that I wanted to get in Oh yeah okay sure Because uh...I thought these were the more important clips of that speech of his which where the ones with actual numbers when he started bitching about NAFTA and i believe that the NAFTA thing well He might be right about it was

19:37 deciding factor. That's where his 30 years comes from, is from NAFTA Yeah I think you're right because it does seem to match because that's Clinton came up with NAFTA and it really It opened the drain, that's for sure. But since the very beginning of NAFTA our country lost 90 thousand factories think of what that is ninety thousand Think about putting a map up and putting text on it you wouldn't have enough room Ninety thousand I said is that possible we had to check four different times And it was actually somewhat higher than that and 5 million manufacturing jobs were lost while racking up trade deficits of $19 trillion. That was the worst trade deal ever made as a result of these gigantic losses, foreign nations now own 26 trillion dollars more of American assets than American... Yep I thought those are good numbers Yeah And 90 thousand is a lot That's a lot

20:40 Thank you Bill Clinton. And the other thing was is that I remember because this first day it came to mind with the 90,000 factories gone and the first thing that came into mind with me was Maytag The washing machine company. Yeah, better... yeah? Made the greatest washing machine you could buy is still I mean you still use ones are better than the ones you can get today and they took that closed down their entire operation and moved the whole thing to Mexico because of NAFTA but this part two of the NAFTA complaint The United States can no longer produce enough antibiotics to treat our sick

21:21 We have a tremendous problem. We have to go to foreign countries to treat our sick if anything ever happened from the war standpoint, we wouldn't be able to do it. We import virtually all of our computers phones televisions and electronics used to dominate the field and now we imported off from different countries A single shipyard in China now produces more ships every year than all of the American shipyards combined. Think of that, and it was a business that we used to dominate. We used to dominate it totally. In short chronic trade deficits are no longer merely an economic problem they're a national emergency that threatens our security and our very way of life So I want to play this clip from Deutsche Welle

22:07 where they explain the calculation of the numbers because they did not really look at the tariffs. They looked at completely different things. Some economists have figured out that these were calculated by The White House and its team, and these economists are being flabbergasted about how cumbersome these equations are. Flabbergasted! Basically saying that the US took the trade deficit that the US has with said country and divided it by the imports from that country, which is a very clunky way of doing things and not as surgical as you would expect. Some countries though however have tried to stave off these tariffs. The White House though says that is was too little too late. A senior White House official we heard from said quote this is not a negotiation its national emergency and they said that biggest problem was not necessarily

22:54 tariff barriers, the tariffs themselves but actually non-tariff barriers. So things like quotas import licenses embargoes and things like that so there are still some countries however trying to work their way around these tariffs but right now they will be coming into effect in the next couple of days a minimum of 10% but some nations paying drastically more than that So they were really looking at the grand picture. I think that's kind of smart! It's like, look what... I thought so too which brings me to another clip if you don't mind? Yeah of course This is the... Just talk into the mic man You're not hitting the mic very well I'm sorry yeah So I was reaching for something While talking What were you reaching for? The paper Oh That has a list of clips Ah, the clip list Very important paper

23:45 NPR, when they discussed this that they were...you know and you saw this in most media. In fact here we start with this tariff slant NPR you can hear what they think behind it, you know? It's like it is bad! President Donald Trump announced a sweeping plan to apply a 10% tariff on all imports coming into the U.S., And Bjarnes Franco-Ordonio reports a list of countries will also face additional quote reciprocal tariffs. Some countries will face reciprocal tariffs as high as 49 percent and what some experts describe is the most aggressive changes to US trade policy in decades President Trump announced the plan during a rose garden ceremony at The White House This is one of the most important days, in my opinion, in American history

24:33 It's a declaration of economic independence. But most economists warn that tariffs will raise prices for consumers and could hurt the economy. The exact extent to which the new Trump administration tariffs will play out in the economy is an unknown, but if history's any guide while the tariffs could create jobs in some sectors they will also cause job losses in others

25:09 Diane Swank is the chief economist at KPMG US. She says the higher tariffs against goods imported from other countries could essentially rewrite the way global trade has been conducted, potentially pushing up prices for U.S. consumers. Tariffs are a regressive tax not only do they tax those who can afford it least they also tend to trigger reactions by our trading partners and can trigger a trade war and cause inflation and stem growth at the same time. New tariffs will not apply to some goods like steel and aluminum which are already subject to tariffs I like this, they're continuously calling it a tax A tax It's a tax on your own people And then Queen Ursula says well we'll just have to raise our tariffs Well aren't you saying that you're going to raise taxes on your own people then?

25:59 It's a tariff. It's never presented that way, that's a very good observation. Yeah it's not... It's never presented as only on our side everything is bad about us and NPR you know they don't have a balance they only have one guy saying something else I mean I got clips of them. Well of course not why would you do that? So i was stunned when Planet Money Oh that's the is that Kyle The Spook I don't know who it is, but no this is...no that was the other money show. The other spook? I don't know Planet Money yeah Planet Money is similar. And Planet Money, which is on NPR they played this these two I got two clips here and they kind of went to the end and I didn't get the memo I guess and they kinda took it the other way But for a long time The dominant voices in the profession made the case that those trade-offs were really worth it Top lawmakers in both parties in the US really bought into this idea that you know free trade would be great for America

27:01 And they really pushed it for the rest of the world. And through decades of that argument, there's been an economist who argued that the dominant voices in economics were wrong —that free trade actually sometimes held countries back and protectionism could help make them richer Hi, I'm Hajun Chang. I'm a professor of economics at the University of London. Hajun Chang wrote a book called Kicking Away the Ladder in 2002 about how rich countries used protectionist policies like tariffs back when they were developing and then told everyone else they couldn't do that —they had to do free trade. And being a pro-tariff economist back in the early 2000s? It was kind of lonely but he

27:43 But he's got kind of the perfect example of why tariffs can work. My favorite example is Hyundai, the automobile company. When Ha-Joon was a little kid growing up in South Korea, Hyundai was not yet an automobile company. Hyundai originally was a construction company but sometime in the late 60s this companies decided that they want to build automotive manufacturing business So first Hyundai had to figure out how to make a car. Hajoon says it started by placing an order with Ford for something called a knockdown kit, which is just a big wooden box full of all the parts you could ever need to build one car. The box arrives, you open it up and it's just full of car parts large and small door, a bolt two headlights. Isn't that how they put the Cybertruck together?

28:39 The knockdown kid? The knockdown kid. Could be! Just throw a couple of panels on him... That's what you ended up with, they had the wrong... yeah Have you ever seen a knock down kid? No I never have, I've heard of them. Huh interesting So that goes from there and then the kicker here is exactly what you mentioned a minute ago which is that instead of using the tariff number, you use what they actually did. Well the trade balance in general... They took the trade balance! Yeah but listen to this piece of information that how Hyundai got into business in the first place and now they make a really terrific car but listen to what do you think they had to do to get to the point where they are now? Listen. They assembled

29:30 Around 3,000 of those cars in the late 60s. And then in the mid 70's South Korean government said we are going to cancel the license for auto manufacturers unless they come up with their own design Yeah, the government was like actually we want our car industry to be real companies global players. Assembling a Ford car is not our end goal here can you level up a little bit? So Hyundai had to come out with their own design in 1976 it made the Hyundai Pony it was the first Korean passenger car they made around 10 000 of them in a year

30:08 In the same year, Ford produced 1.9 million cars and General Motors produced 4.8 million cars. So they had a ways to go and they got a lot of help. Initially this company had to be hugely subsidized both by the government and buy its own existing business, especially construction. There was no way this company was going to be able to make money without that." So yeah, Hyundai was losing money on this new venture and he's saying the government decided to pitch in give it some subsidies and the other parts of Hyundai that were profitable sent over their money but even that wasn't enough. Even then it had to be protected from foreign competition because

30:53 Because who's going to buy this two-bit car when you could import a Cadillac or Mustang? No way. So import of foreign cars were completely banned. A total import ban, like a tariff to infinity the tariff of all tariffs. Oh man! That's how you do it?! Yeah. Complete ban I mean, I guess we subsidize our aircraft manufacturing industry with war in a way, or maybe that doesn't even count anymore. What so the... and I actually watched a lot of Bloomberg television which is so much superior to CNBC. CNBC is just pretty people hair on fire. Bloomberg is actually ugly people on Bloomberg and you know they're just... The video's not the most important thing it's all the stats and charts around it and yeah And they had Tom Ford on

31:50 He's, what is he the governor of again? Of Ottawa. Of Ottawa yes. Oh no, of Ontario. Ontario I think so and So you know there's this massive carve-out for Mexico and for Canada based on the USMCA which is the renegotiated version of NAFTA that the president did when it was 45 And man, it's like this. Remember Tom Ford? I'm gonna turn off the power! We're gonna fight you and we don't care about you! Look at me! I smoke crack like my brother! And this is a whole new guy Canada got to break in they know it It's great to have you with us Mr. Ford You've called this termination day instead of liberation day What will be the response now from Canada

32:41 Well, let's see where these tariffs go. I'm cautiously optimistic that I never saw Canada or Mexico on that list and it just goes to show you two great countries working together collaborating together and building relationships so again i'm cautiously optimistic. If that is the case its the right thing for both the US and Canada Well, and considering Canada was not on that list we understand the existing regime is in place of the tariffs that are in place with the exemption of goods that are USMCA compliant. Does that mean sir at least in your mind that it wouldn't be appropriate for Canada to retaliate for this? At this time? That is correct if that's the case

33:30 then I would highly recommend to the Prime Minister not to retaliate and let's carry on a strong relationship. Let's build the AMCAN fortress, American Canadian Fortress around both countries and be the wealthiest most prosperous safest two countries in the world. So he went... wait a minute! He went from shutting off electricity This is no good, Trump is declaring war to let's build a fence around Amcan. I never heard of that one, he's folding here! You suggested that Canada would bring down its tariffs if the United States did the same does this turn into a game of chicken? Do you believe that the White House would respond accordingly

34:18 Well, I hope so. You know it's we're neighbors for the last 200 years and when we show good faith or the US shows good faith you have to follow this is a partnership that's going on for hopefully several hundred more years and decades to come and we have bigger concerns... Somebody got him aside! Oh wait just wait for it Both Canada in the U.S., then each other We have to keep an eye on other countries like China Who makes the first move in a game like that? Well, we'll work collaboratively with the administration and with our prime minister. And he'll be speaking to President Trump I'm sure over the next day or so and will be working with Secretary Lutnick

35:03 and to get a clear picture of what this means for Canada. Now the main thing here, which is really the biggest industry that we've been talking about and most of this deals with you played Hyundai there minute ago is the auto industry What about what it means for the auto sector in particular because I mean auto sector We learned last week that the president would announce what he made final today which is that 25 percent tariffs on auto imports will be going into place obviously parts are going to be included eventually, sir. So what impact do you expect that alone will have even if tariffs on or reciprocal tariffs were not applied to Canada today?

35:40 Well, I just hope there's no tariffs on auto because parts go back and forth across the border seven or eight times before they get assembled either in Ontario or one of the states be it Michigan or other US States. It's a system that works and has worked since 1965. I've always said you can't unscramble an egg that's been around since 1965. You have to make the omelet larger. And we're just so much stronger together. We buy as many vehicles as we sell down there and the ones that we ship to the US, 50% of our automobile is US parts. So I think this system is working well for both countries and it's a great system especially Canada is buying 400% more vehicles off the US than Mexico does 200% more than any other country in the world. We have an incredible relationship with two great countries

36:37 They're so integrated on many different sectors, but even the people are integrated. Millions and millions of Canadians and Americans travel back-and-forth across a border. They have family members on both sides of the border. And we just appreciate it. Canadians love Americans. I love Americans! I've loved the U.S., spent 20 years of my life there. We have tremendous amount of respect and friendships with our American counterparts. So I heard all that and then this is the last short clip, definitely someone showed a picture and said hey Ford! What's that in your mouth? Well so how do you feel Mr. Ford about what we heard today from the White House you could frame this as could have been worse You could also feel betrayed by some of the comments that President Trump delivered

37:28 How would you describe? Yeah, I never take anything personal from President Trump or anyone else. I understand he's a businessman and that's the way he conducts his business and fair enough. He has a job to do we have a job to do and I think any negotiation We meet in the middle and make sure that we grow two great countries and make them the strongest in the world that no one can touch us. We'll ship down all the critical minerals, we'll ship down all of the oil you need... Wow! Whatever you need! ...and electricity anything that you need. Electricity! We have more natural resources than anyone in the entire world and again there's no one I'd want to ship it down too more then our great friends and allies. Wow!

38:18 Yeah, that was amazing. That was amazing! So okay so that worked let's listen to the rest of the world Europe woke up to chaos this morning as Trump announced sweeping tariffs on his largest trading partners Good morning For Ursula von der Leyen it is a major blow to the world economy The global economy will massively suffer Uncertainty will spiral and trigger the rise of further protectionism I strongly believe that tariffs benefit no one. They're bad for the world economy

37:28 How would you describe? Yeah, I never take anything personal from President Trump or anyone else. I understand he's a businessman and that's the way he conducts his business and fair enough. He has a job to do we have a job to do and I think any negotiation We meet in the middle and make sure that we grow two great countries and make them the strongest in the world that no one can touch us. We'll ship down all the critical minerals, we'll ship down all of the oil you need... Wow! Whatever you need! ...and electricity anything that you need. Electricity! We have more natural resources than anyone in the entire world and again there's no one I'd want to ship it down too more then our great friends and allies. Wow!

38:18 Yeah, that was amazing. That was amazing! So okay so that worked let's listen to the rest of the world Europe woke up to chaos this morning as Trump announced sweeping tariffs on his largest trading partners Good morning For Ursula von der Leyen it is a major blow to the world economy The global economy will massively suffer Uncertainty will spiral and trigger the rise of further protectionism I strongly believe that tariffs benefit no one. They're bad for the world economy

39:06 and they hurt people, they hurt businesses. The shockwaves of Trump's aggressivity ripple through global... Aggressivity? His aggressivity! This is a new term. Aggressively I think is what she tried to say. For the world economy, they hurt people, they hurt businesses. The shockwaves of Trump's aggressivity ripple... No she says aggressivity Yeah but I think she meant aggressive Aggressiveness is the word I think she really meant to say. Do they have no line producers there? Aggressivity... Businesses The shockwaves of Trump's aggressivity rippled through global economies China's finance ministry spokesperson spoke of his outrage saying it was not in line with trade rules and called it unilateral bullying Whilst Mexico and Canada might have been exempt from this round of Trump's trade war, the countries are still reeling from the steel

39:59 aluminium tariffs imposed in March, another 25% tariffs on cars kicked in on Thursday. As the world prepares their response, many are bracing for the devastating impact that this trade war will have on consumers worldwide. It's a war! It's World War III and very different noise there from Mark Carney versus Tom Ford I found that to be rather surprising Yeah, that won't last. No unity there but we need to check a few more people including our... Too many photos from Epstein Island! Including our buddy from Australia It's a watershed moment for global trade US President Donald Trump announced universal 10% tariffs on all imports into the US For some countries this could be as high is 50%. As the world begins to wake up to the news of these staggering tariffs Australian Prime Minister Antony Albanese said it was

41:03 totally unwarranted. Good work. I'm glad you pre-announced it. Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Maloney was the first EU leader to respond to the news. In a statement on Facebook she said, The introduction of tariffs towards the European Union by the USA is a measure that I consider wrong and it does not suit any party... We will do everything we can to work a deal with the United States aiming to prevent a trade war that would inevitably weaken the West in favor of other global actors For many economists and political pundits these sweeping tariffs will have a negative impact

42:08 market was already rattled after Trump's announcement. Others say they threatened to push much of the world into an economic recession if the EU and other countries retaliate, the loss to the global economy will be 1.4 trillion that is trillion with a T this by the way some professor who looks like Jeff Jarvis dollars This is one of the most in addition to being economically illiterate speeches it is accompanied by literally most economically damaging actions that have been taken since the last round of high tariffs, which was in the 1930s. Which helped lead to the Great Depression. But Trump called it Liberation Day promising these measures will pay off for the US. You know I have to play this guy this is another economist this guy was a

42:55 Mainly because they keep bringing up smooth Holly and I think the horror was brought it up to me, too But I just want to ask who's smooth Holly who? Smooth Holly was that was the extra tariffs. They added right after the stock market collapsed in 2020 in 1929 oh okay yes okay, that's so they were terrifying at the time and then then the stock market collapsed in around 1930, 31 period. They introduced a smooth hauling which added more tariffs on top of the tariffs you already had and it collapsed... they think it may have contributed to the continued collapse of the economy in the 30s. Well, the way I keep hearing is when we put tariffs on in 1929, it caused The Great Depression! That's what I keep hearing. Yeah, this clip clarifies that.

43:48 The smooth haul they came in after the crash. Okay, but they still can say because it was before 1933 which was the bottom of the crash they can still say cause that you know all right so but the funny thing was that one little element that I didn't realize until i heard this guy talk this is a guy named Joe Lavanya, it's under the Joe's clip we're talking about. Yeah this guy was a council of economic advisors guy very smart guy typical the other side of the argument guy that nobody else seems to be wanting to put on except Charles Payne did on his show on Fox Business now

44:26 The thing that he noted, and it was kind of stepped on by Payne in this because Payne likes to chat but is that Smoot-Hawley when it was additional tariffs caused deflation not inflation. How interesting! And during the Great Depression it was a deflationary period. It didn't cause inflation because just the opposite so they argument about this causing inflation as nonsense And this guy makes the point of the reason why, and I'll just summarize in advance. People are always all big shots about Mises and there's all these theories about supply-side economics and Milton Friedman and all the rest of it. And Friedman himself has talked about this to an extreme. Inflation is always caused by the money supply period! Thank you

45:23 How much of this do you think will be absorbed in margins of corporations, aborbed on a retail and wholesale level as opposed to just directly passed on the consumer? A lot will be absorbed into margin which is probably for some companies bad for their stock. Back then it's a smaller subset back in 18-19 but most of it was absorbed into margin none of it was paid by the US buyer although that could change in the next go around But you know, Charles I'm looking at this chart. The one-I'd add another row because I see CPI increases and this concept that these tariffs are inflationary That's a misnomer Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon or monetary in credit phenomenon It's the price level adjustment ultimately that'll be offset elsewhere if the Fed doesn't increase the money supply And it's notion somehow we're going to have high inflation Because of tariff shifts is not accurate

46:16 it. I mean, and to your point, even with Smoot-Hawley in the 1930s we had the greatest deflationary period in history! Not inflationary, but deflationary in history. Yeah, of course. I was arguing with someone on another show recently about that and if you look back at the 20's the U.S., like China is today, were a massive exporter of goods and we had big trade surpluses so when the Fed let a lot of banks fail and money supply collapsed back in the late We were a big exporter of goods. So when Smoot-Hawley went in we actually hurt ourselves Yeah, the exact opposite well I mean what you're seeing is the refi mission is on track the 10 year is almost at 4% The dollar has weakened which is what you want for exports

47:05 And I see here on CNBC, President Trump says tariff rollout going very well. It's going very well! Markets will boom! There was another little tidbit in there that i thought was interesting which I think accounts for the market...the stock market collapsing. Well because the money is leaving America this is why people like Horowitz are pissed No no no The reason it was collapsing if you listen to within that clip he said most of them with tariffs, most of it is taken up by... Most of it's made up for the companies themselves and their shrinking margins. Yeah. Oh yes! Which hurts their stock. So in other words… Ah, Yes. …so you're making like Apple for example has this tremendous margins and so they could actually keep to prices the same but they'd have

47:57 cut their margin to an extreme which would hurt the stock price. Your PD ratio goes down? So the market right now is not collapsing because money's leaving the country but it's because they're adjusting for the future, because the markets are saying well this is not going to be good for the so we have to you know or stocks aren't gonna be worth that much more because good point makers but the profits not going to be what it was so and so what the naysayers would say is and I'm obviously not the expert here you are much more versed in this than a sayers will say well they're all just gonna jack the prices up Yeah, that's what they keep saying. But it doesn't seem likely. It's like certainly companies like Apple can take a little bit of a hit They could take a huge hit and the prices don't need to get jacked up and people will stop buying if you don't buy You know, you're not gonna sell anything obviously well this is too high I'm not gonna pay for that I'll wait So just because somethings on the market

48:59 It doesn't mean you have to buy it if it goes up in price. Right, right... So I have a couple clips here from Scott Besant again from Bloomberg and everybody was doing the rounds everybody was doing the rounds so I'll skip the intro and go straight to the negotiations question We're gonna have the baseline tariffs come into effect first then their reciprocal tariffs a little bit more of a different rate for each individual trading partner Are you preparing to negotiate with some of these trading partners before that tariff rate comes into effect on April 9th? Well, I think there have been a lot of discussions but we're just going to have to wait and see what would happen. What I would say Anne-Marie is I would advise none of the countries to panic

49:45 I wouldn't try to retaliate because as long as you don't retaliate, this is the high end of the number. And yeah, I think that market could have certainty that this is the number barring retaliation so we've got a ceiling and then if we can see there's a different floor." I also think doing this half-the rate is really genius Because it's much easier to ratchet it up to parody, you know. And Trump made this whole...this thing about we're nice people We're nice people so we're not gonna hit you that hard. We only gonna hit you with half

50:21 I mean, this is as Besson will tell you here. This is the art of the deal! So you sound like you're ready for a negotiation with number of these partners has the European Union has China has India have these countries reached out? Well they've all reached out but it's gonna be up to President Trump to see what he wants to do. I think the mindset might be to let things settle for awhile Their tariffs or non-tariff barriers have been on a long time, so we'll see where it goes from here. When it comes to China they have a much higher rate on this list On top of that there's still that 20% fentanyl tariff rate Is all of this coming together to be more than a 50 percent tariff rate for Beijing? Well yes I think it is and I think it's a combination of things and you know again

51:09 I think China said today that solving the fentanyl crisis depends on taking off the fentanyl tariffs and i'm pretty sure that's not the way the sequencing is going to work. They're exporting the precursor chemicals and every day, every week, every month Americans are dying and it's gonna have to stop So then he throws in, because of course the market is something Bloomberg wants to talk about. He throws in a nice little term here that made me smile. Okay but since the peaks in February stocks are down 8% I think the Nasdaq from its high most recently is down 12%. So far though these kind

51:48 kind of market downdraft so far this year is not concerning you? Well, look in my old business I was very concerned about market movements and I'm trying to be a secretary of treasury not a market commentator. What i would point out is that especially the Nasdaq peaked on deep sea day that's so that's a mag seven problem not a MAGA problem. Peaked on DeepSeek, Mag7 problem not a MAGA problem. Oh yes bye-bye AI Now the other side of this is critical for it all to work and the president made that clear in his rose garden hold up the sign speech The tax cuts are necessary to keep real wages up and that's the big one here

52:38 Okay, so let's talk about what else you've been spending a lot of your time doing. You have been up on Capitol Hill constantly. You are really working on trying to make sure that this administration can extend the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. On top of that more tax cuts right now how are the conversations going in Congress? Well I actually think the most underreported story in Washington not by Bloomberg of course is incredible unanimity unity amongst... He's having problems talking today. He's got bird feathers in his throat, I think. Yeah but he gave- what's he giving the business to Bloomberg for?

53:16 Everyone's talking about this, not Bloomberg. Yeah well I think he's just being show busy you know it's what you do it was like oh you know Joe only people on your show talk the truth. Unanimity unity amongst Republicans and I think its President Trumps leadership but Mike Johnson with a very narrow margin issued the reconciliation constructions and then he also passed a clean continuing resolution on the Senate side. They are very attentive, and I think they may have something done by this Saturday

53:55 Whoa! Can you imagine that? By this Saturday. No way... Well, that's what he said. That's what he said. Final clip here is about the consumers. While all this is happening consumer sentiment has definitely taken a bit of a dive expectations for inflation have gone up banks like Goldman are cutting their GDP forecast saying potentially the Fed is going to have to cut rates not the good kind of cuts but because they're nervous about growth How concerned are you that the timing of all this is going to be incredibly challenging? I was waiting for you. Where were ya? She said, not the good kind of cuts! No

54:36 What is she talking about? She's trying to slip in, I think, tax cuts for the rich which is the narrative that has just been drummed into everybody's head. But no it's not... In fact the rich are disadvantaged by this whole deal if you've got a lot of stocks and bonds it said a disadvantage to the rich Not only that, but if you remember the first go-around back in Trump's first term we had our gay accountant guy. Yeah. Who handles the big money in Silicon Valley. Anonymous gay accountants. We're way beneath his... Way beneath yes. But he deigns to give us information every so often was telling us how that

55:23 that all his rich clients, which he's loaded with them were bitching and moaning about where is my tax cut for the rich because it did not exist. In fact they were getting screwed because they weren't letting him take off enough interest from their taxes. They changed that rule and that went kind of undiscussed by the mainstream media So this is bullcrap, and the fact that they keep harping on this tax cuts for the rich nonsense. It's an embarrassment! It really is because it still works within media circles because you hear her kind of falling for it but the tax cuts will be no tax on social security so social security checks should in actuality go up

56:11 No tax on chips? No, the Social Security checks will not go up. But they're taxed aren't they? No, they're not taxed. You have to put them on... you get your Social Security and at the end of the year you get a 1099, then you better put it on your taxes I'm sorry yes okay so the checks won't go up but effectively the money goes up no taxes on tips interest deduction on your car loan if it's an American-made car and salt becomes deductible again or unlimited dude

56:49 That would make a difference, and that would make a difference to billionaires too obviously. Anyway let's finish this off. The cut rates not the good kind of cuts the kind of cuts because they're nervous about growth How concerned are you that the timing of all this is going to be incredibly challenging because of how the American consumer, how corporate America is feeling at this moment? Well it tells me a couple things. One we gotta get the tax bill done quickly so because thats a competence builder and two were seeing sentiment surveys from the American people but we haven't actually seen them take action if

57:27 The households actually thought that they were going to be in place if their real inflation expectations had increased What would they be doing? They'd be hoarding goods and they would be demanding wage increases and neither one of those has happened yet So at the moment you're not concerned about some of this soft data. We're seeing No, I see nothing and one of the great things many great things about being a treasury is we have lots of business people come through and everything we're seeing in the economy is still very solid. And executives haven't voiced any of these concerns onto you? Uh no there's some idiosyncratic things but in terms of the expectations actually turning into hard data none among them has seen it yet

58:13 So nobody really knows anything. Everyone's just saying, oh if all these things come together it'll work I have a sneaky suspicion it's really going to work and it may start working sooner than people think but I don't think anybody really knows It certainly unprecedented he certainly is shaking things up Well, this seems overdue. Yes! Because we actually don't make anything except jets and bombs... Well and you know what I love is guys like our buddy there in North Carolina after the storm he started Pearl Boot Company nice looking boots good price American made American leather you know i think he's trying to resurrect the shoe company

59:03 Vietnam, say goodbye to your cheap Timu crap. That's over and that's okay I'm okay if we can't buy cheap crap anymore it's crap There is a lot of high quality products coming out of Asia that's the real problem you can call it crap Like what? What do you buy this high quality? Nikon cameras are made in China these are one of the finest cameras you could buy Do you really need it Well, I already have one. Exactly so next? But it's not cheap crap! Okay but there's a lot of...I agree there's a lot of cheap crap that comes out and looks like oh this should be fine and then you know couple years later breaks How about unnecessary crap we don't need all the crap whether its cheap or not No the reason why we have all this crap is because its cheap Yes exactly The Chinese they have part of their philosophy

59:57 And which has always been kind of interesting to me is that they just go into a market and make it product cheap to the point where nobody can compete because they got subsidies, and they get all kinds of cheating ways. They steal intellectual property which Trump complained about. And then make it cheap products and then take over the market completely. Nobody wants even bother competing with them and they never go into monopoly, they never go into the monopolistic mentality. They just keep it cheap! Yeah It's like total alien to all Western civilization. That's not what you do What you're supposed to do is you wipe out a market take it You now, you own the market and now you gouge the customer that's what we do. That's America Western western philosophies British is actually where really comes from and I

1:00:51 And that's what you do, because that's why you go through the trouble of taking the market over. You have to go through a lot of effort to get the market to yourself and then once you get it to yourself, you gouge. The Chinese never go to the gouging phase! I'll tell ya, you know, I'm not in the market for a car. I think I probably bought my last car. It can last another 20 years easy. Then I'll just need a golf cart One of those Walmart things. But if I were in the market for a new car, I'd be looking at an American car! Why not? And this is... In the past presidents Bush 1 and 2 and Clinton always like buy America we're gonna buy America to buy America Act by Obama buy America they were full of crap. There's Biden with his good union jobs he didn't do anything for the unions they're all on Trump side now Of course they are

1:01:44 But, you know so what Trump did is he actually did it instead of just making a marketing campaign. Oh we're gonna buy American! We'll put a flag on it and it will sell... No I'm looking forward to our ingenuity. I'm looking forward to a lot of young people with high school diplomas skipping the indoctrination factory and going into robotics, stuff like this. Welding! Oh man welding...welding you can make 90 bucks an hour welding unbelievable you know? And okay so I don't know I feel good about it I do and of course we will never ever impose a tax on our friends for no agenda show donations No tariffs

1:02:38 It's reciprocal. We give you value, you accept that without a tariff we receive value from you no tariff because we're good people. We're nice people now The EU immediately tries to, we'll get him with this one. Check it out! The European Union is sticking to its plans to enforce new laws on social media platforms like X, TikTok and Facebook despite pressure from the US in an interview with Euronews European Commission Executive Vice President Hanna Verhoeven who oversees security and technology explains that these laws are vital to protecting democracy from disinformation

1:03:17 and market abuses. Our rules are very fair because they are same rules for everybody who is operating and doing business in the European Union, so we have same rules for the European companies, for American companies, for Chinese companies. The Digital Services Act which addresses disinformation and the digital markets act aimed at ensuring a fair digital economy have come under significant scrutiny from Donald Trump's prominent advisor Elon Musk. You will not and the dominant players, they are not misusing their market power. That also new innovations can enter to the markets in the European Union and DSA is very much for making sure that illegal content and products are taken down and we have safe and democratic fair environment." Now it's not up to me of course but wouldn't it be just fabulous if

1:04:25 X and Facebook or X and Meta, and even Google just said you know what no more services for you. Go make your own social network go do your own search that would be so much I can imagine what a disarray they would be in if that happened? Well you think they you know if they had the capabilities to do anything they'd have done it by now Oh, the Europeans? Yeah. No they're kind of pre-announcing they're gonna do it... They're not going to do anything! They can't do anything! All they can do is fines. Fines fines fines. You overstepped the bounds I'm just saying it would be fun to cut them off Just cut him off like Doug. We are no that way President Curry would. Shut him off

1:05:16 And turns out, we were pretty right about the true value of TikTok because it's really just a shop with a social network around it. Because who's the new bidder? Amazon has submitted a bid to buy TikTok. Media reports say the offer to buy the social media app was made to The White House, it comes just days before Saturdays deadline for TikTok owner ByteDance to divest itself of the apps US operations CNBC reports that mobile technology company Applovin has also made a bit for Tick Tock if there is no deal to buy TikTok before the April 5th deadline the app again faces potential shutdown of its U.S. operations

1:05:55 Which would severely hurt the show, obviously. Well... It would hurt the show! I don't think that you actually believe that Believe what? That it would hurt the show. I would Well, I have a clip today that begs to differ Oh, you have a TikTok clip? I do, I do First of all, when you just played, I had kind of another summary Just so we can get the TikTok The TikTok story conundrum. I can read it. Story, story conundrum You should work for Euronews Top officials in the Trump administration are set to meet today to discuss a TikTok deal as NPR's Bobby Allen explains Trump has set Saturday is a sell-by date for the video app under federal ban law It's not noticeable by using the app but Tiktok is technically

1:06:48 to Now, President Trump is set to meet with Vice President J.D. Vance and other advisors to weigh TikTok's options. Software company Oracle owned by Trump supporter and billionaire Larry Ellison appears to be leading the pack of bidders. The New York Times reported Amazon has sent in a last minute TikTok offer yet one key hurdle remains winning the approval of Chinese regulators who may use TikTok as leverage in tariff negotiations. Amazon is the only logical choice but Amazon will ruin it

1:07:28 Of course they will ruin it, but I think Oracle would too. Yeah because with Oracle they have no business model because Oracle doesn't have a shop to plug into it and the bizarre thing is when Podshow pivoted we're gonna make a pivot everybody to Mevio and video that we pitched so hard to tell Amazon you want to have shows built around your shopping I'll give Bloom that. Still a good idea. It is great idea! But if Amazon buys TikTok, will we ever get a clip like this? You actually don't see homosexual behavior out in nature. Like you don't see other mammals behaving homosexually only humans because they came up with it in their brains really? You've never met a gay dog! You think every dog you've ever met is straight?! You've never met a dog that even gave you a vibe baby dogs are almost as gay as dolphins...you need to get it together my guy

1:08:27 You need to get it together, my guy. Dogs are gay! As gay as dolphins! Do you think you've ever had a gay dog? It's a serious question I mean it's possible...I don't know. I've had several dogs in my life and cannot remember one that I got a vibe from Vibe, yeah you know gay vibe. Gay vibes? Looks like your funny. Hey buddy. Gay vibe from my dog How come you're not picking up that quarter this there? Well I have something since you got the TikTok going. Alright! Don't do them all. Save some for the end. Do two and save two for the end.

1:09:24 It's called pro-pro. Okay, I can do that. Yeah, we don't... Let's start with the old one which has been sitting around which is the arrogant 4th of July girl. If you voted for this do not celebrate the fourth of July! Do not celebrate the Fourth of July! I know The Left has complicated feelings about the Fourth of July and It's like to be so patriotic and celebrate a country that was built on the backs of colonialism, and G-side and bigotry. But dare I say this 4th of July we reclaim patriotism in the name of improving our country making it great for the first time hopefully if forever able to without completely dismantling the country and building a new one which i really hope is the way to do it

1:10:09 But if you voted for it, if you voted for this, you do not love this country. You do not love the people in it. You did not deserve to proudly celebrate the country because you're destroying it is also If your apathetic and have said anything about anything that's going on Also, you shouldn't celebrate the 4th of July none of you guys should celebrate the fourth of July. He should feel embarrassed he should know that we're all looking at you a little funny like I know you guys don't know how to read, but read the room. Oh boy...I'll miss them! When Amazon buys it this is all going away. It's all going away. Well yeah maybe get him in now here let's go to the redheaded liberal This should come as absolutely no surprise

1:10:59 But Donald Trump has the lowest approval rating of all time with one exception. Do you know what that exception is? Do you know who else had the lowest approval rating that he is coming in second to? It's him, his first term- I knew it! He was at the lowest approval rating at this point so he's number one in that regard And he's bringing the rest of the country down. Even people who voted for him, who are not diehard MAGAs can acknowledge that he is not doing right by them. There are so many people in the federal government who are fed up from what they've seen in less than two months so far. We're not even two months into his current presidency and he is screwing things up every single day

1:11:55 And then there's Elon Musk. So they have a podcast. The state's always been a left-wing operation, so I'm going to listen to what amounts to modern neo communists about money and investment? I don't think so. I would say trans Maoist more because the question here is all of these unhappy liberals but let's call them delusional Dems for purpose of example

1:12:40 Where are they going to move to when they leave our sinking ship, this horrible atrocity? This fascistic state. This trash heap that Donald Trump has turned just into a rat infested piece of crap where are they gonna move to and why? So wait I just want to follow up because now i'm looking at the New York Times article and it's characteristics of places Democrats were more likely to move to 31% of Democrats were more likely to move to a place within five miles of a Trader Joe's, only 10% of Republicans. It gets much better! Republicans had no list of a store on their characteristics theirs where property tax below 0.5%, within five miles

1:13:26 a forest, rural or small town. They're twice as likely to move to a rural or small town than Democrats. Well another way to look at it is the way that administration is treating marginalized communities is a big factor too if you have a kid I think this may be a marginalized community speaking who's trans or you're an immigrant, you may not feel safe in a neighborhood that's super red. So that was definitely like one of the guys I talked to who does foreign residency and foreign passports he was like i had nine families with trans kids. What? Contacted him within a week after Trump signed one of his anti-trans executive orders. Interesting... A pro woman bill is

1:14:12 according to Slate, an anti-trans executive order. That's a good way of putting it. They were just like we have a kid who is... who has... undergoing medical care for which they need... Medical care, John! Medical care You mean puberty blockers and stuff like that, medical care? Drugs. And they need to take the drugs continuously and we're very worried that those drugs are not going to be available for us in the United States We want to make sure that we're living somewhere where those drugs are available Well relatedly I talked a guy last night who has HIV and it's been treated for it for the last 15 years

1:14:49 And he said, I'm not sure if I'll be able to get the drugs that I need this time next year. And he said if I don't have them, I have two years left. So it's really existential for a lot of people. Why would it be difficult to get HIV? Because the Trump administration is cutting funding and programming. Bullcrap! health insurance where it's too expensive? No, I mean they're cutting treatment. You know a lot of the clinics that provide HIV drugs and particularly at low cost to people are having their funding cut off by the administration and it seems to be you know political issue. Complete bullcrap! There is no clinic getting there funding cut off

1:15:29 They just make this stuff up as they go along because they think that's probably what they would be doing if they were on the projection of some sort? That's an interesting thought. Speaking of drugs, I got some interesting notes from producers and one of our producers he said you know is driving along and i'm listening to the report about the Pope and that he almost died, and they had to decide whether to just let him die. And he says that this was a flub, that the news model said they were considering taking him off as adrenochrome but then she corrected herself. The critical moment came on February 28th when the Pope had a breathing crisis. The choice was whether to stop treatment and let him pass or try more aggressive drugs...

1:16:30 Wow, that's an obscure catch but you might be right. I like it! Or try more aggressive drugs... Aggressive drugs? Adrenochrome huh?! I'm just saying But the best one! That is the funniest catch of the day Catch of the Day Here is another one This is from Salah Salah says I am a truck driver Just now listening to Sunday Show In the clip where RFK Jr. is talking about downsizing, he talks about merging it into a new unit with the acronym AHA. Growing up with my father who was Arabic I never learned the language but you definitely pick up assorted words and definitely the swear words. Aha exactly how RFK pronounced it is slang in my dad's mostly Egyptian dialect for shit or damn

1:17:26 Listen to how he says it so we can replicate it. Kennedy also plans to consolidate agencies within HHS or eliminate an entire alphabet soup of departments and agencies while preserving their core functions by merging them into a new organization called the Administration for Healthy America, or AHA. The FDA will lose 3500 employees... A-ha! So you know, it's aha don't say that in Egypt people Aha! Language is a funny thing. Aha, aha... I have some more stuff do you want anything you want to jump in on here because i've got a couple more series of some kind of interesting stuff? I have uh yeah I got a couple of series I get that well I can put this like Dead B should be the second half for sure why don't you go ahead I got plenty of stuff Well we have a new show

1:18:27 And it's called the Mark and Marco show. And if this keeps on going, we need a jingle... It's the Mark and Marco show! It's the Mark and Marco. Yes, Mark Rutte has a show with Marco. You know, Marco your Secretary of State? Marco. Hello Marco! I want to commend you for your tireless diplomacy over the last couple of months. You've traveled the whole world You travel the whole world. How many points do you have on your frequent flyer miles? I also want to thank you for what you did before as a senator, supporting NATO and we will have lots to discuss over the coming two days of course Ukraine Yes As i said before

1:19:12 President Trump, the team you broke the deadlock. You started a process of negotiations... Very good! You started it because I know I'm here to get you more money Marco! ...with our full support to bring the Ukraine war to a lasting, to a durable peace. In the meantime, the Europeans are stepping up. They're stepping up? This is money that we get here in America, this 20 billion for more bullets.

1:19:55 We will also discuss the other threats over the next two days. Of course Russia, which is our long-term threat Long term threat! Peace or no peace? Long term threat! War is always on the horizon But also the increasing problems we have with China of course North Korea Iran and all of these four getting more and more connected And these two theaters getting more and more connected and working intertwined It's great but wait there's more There will be more to spend We know that the United States is a staunch ally in NATO. I had a very good meeting with the president, Vice President Trump But that commitment comes with an expectation and the expectation is that European allies And Canada need to spend more. More! Since Trump 45 Can you stop for second? Yeah

1:20:45 For Mark and Marco, does this guy, Ruta ever stop talking? Yeah he does in a minute. So Rubio is just standing there at a certain point he's looking down to the shoes He's like, huh, so little mark on the floor here... He's looking around, he's getting really bored And Ruta is just blahblahblah But it's but he's doing his job and Marco knows it. From Canada and Europe has been 700 billion up to now But when you look at the hundreds of billions of euros slash dollars now rolling in Rolling, rolling in. The money is rolling in Margot! This is probably the biggest surge in defense spending we have seen in Canada and Europe since the cold war since the Berlin wall came down so that's good news but still we need to do more Good news but still be needed to do more And now...

1:21:39 This is so good. And so Marco comes in... This guy's a clown! Yes, well we knew that. We knew he was a clown. Dutch people know he's a clown and the Dutch people can't believe it like this guy is top dog now on the international stage. So Mark has done his job and now Marco must go for the 5%. If you have to go up to five percent But Marco is a bit flustered. The United States is in NATO, we are an activist... We speak right now the United States as active and NATO as it has ever been And some of this hysteria on hyperbole that I see in the global media and some domestic media In the United States about NATO isn't warranted. The President Trump's made clear This is his new name president pump that's his new name

1:22:28 Play that again. President Pump. I think... No, he said Trump! No, he did not! No! I could hear it. I listened to it loud and soft Yeah, that's like one of the... The mishearing I do is very similar He's... Okay Trolls? Are you hearing Pump? I'm hearing Pump. The United States about NATO isn't warranted Denied to the president pumps make clear He says Pump Trust me, he says Pump No, he says I can hear the tea No Everyone's hearing Pump Well yeah because you primed him Well, does it matter then?

1:23:27 of rich countries who have the capability to do more. We understand that's a trade-off, we have to do it every single year in our country I assure you that we also have domestic needs but we've prioritized defense because the role we played in the world and we want our partners to do the same and I understand there is domestic politics after decades building up vast social safety nets that that

1:24:23 to every single one of the members committee and fulfilling a promise to reach up to 5% spending. That includes the United States will have to increase its percentage because what threats truly are as dire, as I believe they are and the members of this alliance believe they are then that threat has to be confronted by a full and real commitment to have the capability to confront these things. And then they wrap it up with uh... The true next um theater Which is the Arctic? I would not be surprised if the Arctic would be raised today by allies. And this is an issue and the Arctic of course, it's not only Denmark... The King of Denmark which has Greenland as part of its kingdom. Not for long! This also Iceland, Canada, US, Norway Finland Sweden so we have seven allies

1:25:13 which are present in the Arctic. We know that the Chinese are opening sea lanes, we know that Russians are rearming there... ...we know and as I said yesterday it seems to be a detail but this is an important detail It's not trivial and that is the issue of icebreakers So more and more the seven Arctic countries are working together to make sure they keep that part of the world safe And NATO was more and more involved Yeah Greenland really important It's on date icebreakers forth global warming is gonna melt all those with all that I don't ruin Don't break the spell of course. We don't need that Global warming take care of it all there's no ice Let's go back to domestic. I got two clips okay This is the FDA being gutted yeah, this is a PR again Is it our buddy?

1:26:14 No, I don't have any of our buddies clips today. Oh, sorry. He's on vacation or something. Do you have any BBC stuff? And again no...I decided to give it a break so there is no BBC so he can play your jingles. I have the whole production never mind. The food and drugs! Okay well okay wait I guarantee next show BBC is gonna be featured. And Scott. Any BBC and Scott? If I could find Scott I haven't seen him for awhile The Food and Drug Administration, the agency that regulates a lot of the things Americans eat and the medicines we take is now part of a huge reorganization. The Trump administration announced Thursday that it will cut 20 thousand jobs from the Department of Health and Human Services. 3500 of those are from the FDA. NPR Consumer Health correspondent Yuki Nobuchi joins us now to talk about this. Good morning Yuki! Good morning!

1:27:11 Do you have any specifics about these jobs? Given some general indications that they want to trim in HR and IT, for example. But the FDA didn't respond to my inquiries and so we really don't know the specifics but Peter Marks who spearheaded the development of COVID-19 vaccine at the FDA said he was pushed out last week and Robert Califf, who's actually a two-time FDA commissioner most recently under Biden sounded alarms at a press conference with Washington Democratic Senator Patty Murray noting that these cuts are on top of other big departures.

1:27:47 A cut of an additional 3,500 people on top of the arbitrary cuts that have already occurred. Wait a minute who's this guy? I miss his name he may be someone we need to pay attention to. Uh no. Most recently under Biden sounded alarms at a press conference with Washington Democratic Senator Patty Murray noting that these cuts are on top of other big departures A cut of an additional 3,500 people on top of the arbitrary cuts that have already occurred in addition to all the people who are leaving is likely to leave the FDA unable to do its critical work. That is such an old school Washington DC cadence kind of a... Who was?

1:28:31 Some guy was a bureaucrat that was booted out. It's like Buckley! It gets better in the second clip. And Ader, the critical work he refers to is safety reviews for things like new drugs food safety tobacco vaccines and tobacco safety yeah new drugs food safety, tobacco vaccines and devices like heart pacemakers. A lot of everyday consumer... The way she says this is so like well you know you're gonna die because none of the pacemaker and your drugs won't be safe and then... NPR said it! Yeah hello? Vaccines and devices like heart pacemakers a lot of every day consumer items are regulated by the FDA

1:29:23 Yuki, what is the White House saying about how these cuts and this realignment fits with its priorities? Yeah, it's led by Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the new Health and Human Services Secretary and he says the country's health agencies are too bloated and ineffective at fighting in particular chronic disease. He and others dislike the country's past approach to public health generally. And Peter Marks wrote a bitter resignation letter suggesting Kennedy is cutting back on vaccine efforts because that work doesn't align with Kennedy's personal beliefs. On

1:29:58 On the other hand, Kennedy has led this campaign to make America healthy again and that phrase has now got its own acronym MAHA and has a broad following. But Califf says these cuts are not consistent with that idea. And it's really striking to me how the rhetoric of for example better nutrition enhanced food safety, innovation in medical products runs contrary to what's being done with the workforce. A lot of people are afraid of heights not me I'm afraid of widths You know he even quipped that this seems like a good way to make America not healthy again. Ugh brother What a waste of air time So i slipped a Stephen Wright in there you didn't notice? That was good! I did I laughed at it Okay...I laughed at it

1:30:50 I was listening to this guy, that's the reason for the clip. Yeah it was highbrow humor No i would listen to the clip because this guys voice he either sounded like Steve Landisberg who used to be on a tv show The thing is no one knows our boomer humor Boomer humor! There you go. So I found the Stephen Wright clip that fit right in yeah but no, I mean people didn't even get my Elmer Fudd we are boomer humor is failing it's falling flat. People...we have enough of a Well, that audience which is small. I say 10% of our audience gets some of this material. I'm gonna go for five on the Steven Reich Cliff. Those guys should donate more! Yes yes this is true. This is true. Boomer humor to the rescue. Oh man... Yeah Barney Miller was the show with Steve Landis' bird and he has an exact same voice. That's stretching it though

1:31:54 Well on the HHS FDA LMNOP, Major Garrett Shibiar, CIA Broadcasting Systems brought on Deborah Birx. Why do they bring these old hacks on? that are notorious, they're already proven to be phonies and they've lied to the public and admitted it in public that there are liars. And they bring them back or do they have like one Rolodex is being passed around? And this like they can't come up with anybody new I'm not quite sure, but she...I mean since she left after COVID. She's been the CEO of a company. She's been on the board of a couple other companies and I think in one of these clips- She has to be a spook! Well, she was a ranking officer in the Navy so I don't know if she was naval intelligence But now she's claiming for the past few years that she's working in rural Texas

1:32:59 So yes, there is something very odd about her. But she's actually not very negative about RFK Jr.. Welcome back Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F Kennedy Junior is planning to lay off at least two thirds of the staff at the National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health It is a federal agency within HHS that attempts to prevent workplace related injuries and illnesses Those firings are part of the 10,000 jobs that are expected to be cut across the agency I want to bring in former White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx to evaluate all this, Dr. Birx i'm so glad you're with us You have vast experience in the federal government and the federal bureaucracy. You know...you say that but this is CBS So it can't be a coincidence How do you read these reductions within HHS? Some people are expressing tremendous alarm Where do you fall on that spectrum

1:33:54 I was in DOD, HHS State and the White House 41 years in federal service. Let me just say my federal service colleagues...I worked with a lot of dedicated hard-working people but what has happened over the years that you're not hearing about? You're hearing about fraud waste and abuse but there's something else that has been going on and that is a lot of duplication among the HHS agencies And so when COVID hit, you had things that were ASPR was doing that also CDC was doing and it caused a lot of confusion. I think what they're trying to do in which I hope they are trying to do is bring back

1:34:31 Fundamentals stop the duplication get people remission focused and hold people accountable to improvements in Americans health because we're spending more. We have more personnel about 17% increase in just the last four years yet the health of America has not improved. And so I think we have to get back to really understanding what is the job of HHS and that's the Health and Human Services of the American people, and I hope that's what this going to come back in this focus." I was surprised when I heard that! I'm like okay... So she's kind of saying it's good? ASPR by the way is the Administration for Strategic Preparedness and Response

1:35:09 Which I can't even remember hearing that acronym during COVID. Do you? No, she comes on with this very kind of semi-positive approach right after Musk visited the CIA. There you go! So here's the follow up question if these cuts are they good as you read the headlines As you talk to your colleagues still in do you think that the process that is going on Is it moving in that direction or is kind of pell-mell and sort of, well let's just cut as big a number we can think of. Pell-mell? Isn't it pall-mall? No no, pell-mell means chaotic but its a whole boomer phrase

1:35:58 Well, right 5% of the listeners know whatever what a pal Mel I'm thinking Paul mall those the Paul Mall reds man Those were hardcore. I haven't heard that being pretty deliberate. I'm sorry that I haven't heard the term Palmel for decades Well, decades. They know their audience don't they? Is it moving in that direction or is kind of pell-mell and sort of well let's just cut as big a number as we can think of maybe it's uh they're trying to bring back all these cool cool phrases you know just to sound intellectual It's the kind of pell-mell I'm gonna start using

1:36:36 Well, don't start you this that sounds dumb. This Trump administration is completely pell-mell You know I see the work at HHS being pretty deliberative The fact that they put asper back within the CDC so that CDC who is also working on disease control Is she something eyes up with Asper? She, you know why is she so talking about ASPR this and no one talks about ASPR. Well that must be the spook part of the agency. It's gotta be! Doing the same thing as ASPR so that we're ready for the next pandemic because when you have two agencies thinking they're both in charge

1:37:15 It caused a lot of confusion around that table of trying to get the best job of COVID for the American people. And so what I'm hoping comes out of this is a much more horizontal structure where the NIH, I just say being at CDC there are 150 different databases none of which talk to each other. She's totally talking must stuff here Oh, the databases don't talk to each other. Okay! So there's an injury database, there's a flu database... Americans are whole people so I think figuring out how do we get more horizontal data so we can find where things are going well and learn from them

1:37:54 And the things that aren't going well in specific counties, particularly rural counties who are well behind in life expectancy compared to urban counties. Are we doing something to address that and then holding the federal government to outcomes? The job of the federal government is not to analyze data. The job of the federal government is to use data, define solutions to actually improve outcomes and impacts. Hold on a second how does that even make any sense? You don't analyze it you use it! It's the same thing How do you use without analyzing it Don't analyze just use it Asper is the secretary's principal advisor on matters related to bioterrorism and other public health emergencies

1:38:39 They're responsible for coordinating interagency activities between HHS. The other ones who made the Lyme's disease... Other federal departments, agencies... Fort Detrick! There you go That look... Manhattan... Plum Island! In July 2019, the Blue Ribbon Study Panel on Biodefense announced a new idea to improve US national security against bioterrorism. A quote Manhattan Project for Biodefense What could possibly go wrong? Wow and we did not hear of this at least I can't remember Well, she's brought it to the fore for a reason. Yeah So now we've heard of it so now its...

1:39:23 It's in play. You know, now we... It's in play! For some reason she and this was the point of her being on CBS Evening News Let's see what she says in this last clip about the head of the FDA Dr. Brooks I want to ask you about something that going on at FDA because Peter Marks who as you know was the FDA's head of biologics resigned and in his resignation letter he said Biologics is vaccines Robert F Kennedy Jr., who leads the Department of Health and Human Services He seeks subservient confirmation of his misinformation and lies. That's a direct quote related to vaccines and their effectiveness. And the Wall Street Journal recently editorialized that Mr Kennedy rightly criticized the Biden administration's COVID response for ignoring science

1:40:09 But he won't restore public confidence if he feeds skepticism about vaccines that have saved countless lives. The Wall Street Journal editorial board writes, our worst fears about Mr Kennedy are coming true. Do you share any of those anxieties? Well, what I've seen on the ground because i've been working the last four years in rural Texas is really him coming out and saying. I believe in the MMR vaccine it is effective. I want people to get it he supported CDC to go in there and support increased access to vaccination federal dollars went increasing vaccination in that area so

1:40:47 So, you know you have to look at people's actions and really try to understand what is being said and what is being actually done on the ground. And I think what is being done on the ground in West Texas is consistent with improving vaccination rates Oh boy, there's a lot to unpack in that commentary. One the Wall Street Journal is anti-Kennedy why is that? And that's a Rupert Murdoch operation or Murdoch operation. The second thing is she's in rural Texas and then coincidentally A measles outbreak as it were, breaks out where she's in the vicinity from the sounds of it. She is definitely in rural Texas and she's aware of this situation and a few people with measles there and one phony one that supposedly died from measles. Now this is very suspect. The... Let's see these... And she's defending Kennedy

1:41:51 Yes, so Kennedy's obviously Gonna do nothing. So Don O'Connell is the I guess she was the assistant secretary for ASPR no It looks like she's there a German operation called Asperger Let's see office of public She looks like a real spook by the way this dawn O'Connell well There's definitely something up here Let's see, asper.hhs Yeah it was given...it was rolled out for a reason Program, yes To let us know Yes What's going on? Give us the backgrounder and I don't know what we're supposed to do with this We can do with it! Let's see who the boss is John Knox Wait He's the principal deputy Where's he...? I guess they don't have Don't they have a They only have deputies Wouldn't it be Kennedy? Well, I guess so John Knox

1:42:58 Where's he from? Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. I don't know, but something is in play there with Asper. I agree with you and Berks all of a sudden... No! I've been in rural Texas all these years. Four years. It makes no sense. I'm so confused. No it makes no sense. You're right. That's another aspect to this. Very confused about her. Not sure what she's doing. Doesn't feel right. Yeah doesn't feel right Doing something. Yeah Well, let's see we have this we have a interesting donation segment Why did you see the length of some of those notes? Oh, yeah Especially the guy who insists on on under note well There's at least five of them that are that need to be truncated and it just needs to be truncated It was one guy he insisted the note be read but I'm the one that's five pages long No, it's not that long

1:44:03 How about Musk and Doge goes to the CIA? Okay, let's do that. Then we can deal with the notes as good. Billionaire Elon Musk has shared his Doge team's cost-cutting plans with officials at the CIA The agency has already taken steps to fire employees who worked on diversity issues A federal judge has ordered the CIA to reconsider those job cuts citing constitutional statutory and regulatory concerns Well how does that fit in I don't know and i don't know what the judges got to do with CIA hiring practices but okay these judges are something's gotta happen with these judges. Well isn't President Trump firing the judges?

1:44:48 No, you can't fire these judges. These are judges that are not firable Oh, he has to either impeach him which no one's gonna It's not gonna happen because I can't get the votes in the Senate know or you're gonna or the Supreme Court is Gonna have To tell them hey You can't be doing what you're doing cuz this is not you know your district guys. That was it'd be doing national stuff And the Supreme Court slow on the draw on this why weren't they already involved? I don't know. No one seems to be paying attention to any of that The news is not the news Uh oh, i discovered something The news is not the news I thought this was rather interesting though for those who are so concerned about Elon Musk the Nazi

1:45:35 Donald Trump the Nazi and the Republicans the Nazi and the Texans, we're all Nazis. How about some actual Nazi info? Argentina's president Javier Mele says that he is declassifying government documents on how a Nazi war criminals escaped Europe and resettled in South America following World War II It's thought as many as 5,000 Nazis evaded arrest in Argentina. The most prominent was Adolf Eichmann seen here during his trial in Israel in 1961. Eichman was one of the architects of the Holocaust Israeli agents captured him and took him to Jerusalem where he was tried and sentenced to death

1:46:15 Well, I'm joined now by the man known as The Last Nazi Hunter. Dr Efrem Zuroff has played a key role in helping to bring Nazi and fascist war criminals to trial. Dr Zuroff it's good to have you back on the program what are you expecting to find in these files that are being made public in Argentina? I assume that we'll be able to get many many details regarding the identity of the Nazis who fled to Argentina and the identities of people who made it possible for them, that will help them. I'm going to tell you this could be bigger than The Epstein Files when we really find out who the Nazis were that were escaped and helped them is gonna open up a interesting can of worms Yeah especially if Hitler's on the list

1:47:08 Speaking of Israel, the Prime Minister is breaking the law! In a defiant gesture towards the International Criminal Court Benjamin Netanyahu is visiting Hungary. It will be his first trip to the European Union since an arrest warrant was issued against him The Israeli prime minister is wanted for alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity in the Gaza Strip Prime Minister Viktor Orban extended the invitation in November last year quickly flouting the ICC ruling. We have no choice but to defy this decision and i will invite the Israeli Prime Minister Mr Netanyahu to visit Hungary where I will assure him that if he comes, that the international criminal court's ruling will have got on no effect in Hungary and we will not follow its terms As a signatory of the ICC, Hungary is formally obliged to take Netanyahu into custody

1:48:01 But for the next four days, Orban is expected to welcome him into Budapest with open arms. And it is not the only time they have put their friendship first in 2017 when Orban was accused of anti-Semitism towards the American Jewish billionaire George Soros the Israeli PM came to his rescue. In July last year, Budapest vetoed an EU statement that condemned the kinesis rejection of a Palestinian state and the Hungarian leader has unconditionally supported Israel's offensive in Gaza which has claimed more than 50 000 lives according to Gaza authority

1:48:38 So what is he doing in Hungary? That's what I'd like to know. What is he doing there? There has got to be something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about, it's gonna happen there and why there? Well maybe he wants to ship some Palestinians over there! Israel is slowly tightening its grip on the Gaza Strip. Defense Minister Israel Katz said the army's operation was expanding to seize large areas that would be incorporated into what he called Israeli security zones without saying how much territory would be seized. But he also said that Palestinians would have to be evacuated. Katz also called on the enclave's residents to expel Hamas and return hostages, roughly a week after this rare footage showed Palestinians protesting against the militant group. But representatives of the families of hostages accused the Israeli government of sacrificing the hostages for the sake of territorial gains. Katz' announcement

1:49:34 comes a week after he warned that the Israeli military would operate with full force in the territory. The ceasefire, which came to an end on March 18th is now a distant memory for Palestinians living in Gaza At daybreak Gaza health officials said at least 15 people including children were killed in air strikes on homes in Han Yunis and Nusayrat refugee camp The UN has also warned that stockpiles of flour are running out in Gaza after Israel closed crossings to humanitarian aid The UN has urged Israel to reopen its crossings to humanitarian aid, to avert the food crisis.

1:50:23 Well, there's definitely not doing I don't know what the issue is there but that reminds me of another European story that we're gonna mention. You're gonna move it right along? Unless you want to keep talking about Israel. Well, i was just thinking of some witty banter like what is going on... I can't think anything witty! I'm not witty today but let's go with the real strange stories they rest of Marine Le Pen. Oh man, even her... Even other party leaders are saying this was bullcrap

1:51:00 Yeah, I got the clip here. It's Eva EVA Okay So the lawfare being used against right-wing politicians in Europe is being taken to a whole new level This is your buddy this your buddy Eva like whose last name I can never pronounce that Dutch girl who? Flatter flat of whatever She's very erudite she kind of dropped off the radar and She got married. Yeah, I noticed that but she's back with a vengeance with this Marine Le Pen story If i could give her a little bit of advice I'd say cut your hair a little bit shorter It detracts from her obvious deep knowledge of affairs Well she could put a ponytail up and that would be fine Yes

1:51:50 I'm just thinking from a television standpoint, you know. It's like... Yeah she is distractingly pretty and the hair doesn't help! Exactly Okay so the lawfare being used against right-wing politicians in Europe is being taken to a whole new level Marine Le Pen the leader of Rassembleau Nationale The populist right wing party in France has just been sentenced to four years in jail Of which two suspended And has been barred from partaking in French politics for the next five years. That means that she's been barred from running against Macron for the position of the President of France, she has been convicted for allegedly embezzling European funds misusing European funds for her national fraction of the party instead of the European fraction of the party which I dare to bet money on the fact that if

1:52:40 Any judicial system in any European country would launch an investigation into left-wing parties to see if they were doing that. That, let's say 80% of them would be found guilty of the same thing because I used to work in a European parliament and trust me... This is something that I think happens a lot more than they want you to believe. And of course, we will never know that because they don't launch investigations into left-wing parties because the whole aim of this is to crush the right wing in Europe because we're growing too fast and so the system, the cabal needs to come down on us through another way and what do they do? Lawfare!

1:53:19 They're banning us, they're banning our parties. They are banning politicians from running. They are convicting us of hate speech and hate crimes that's how they do it that is a new strategy You know, like think about it for a second. Embezzlement of European funds? Ursula von der Leyen the president of the European Commission is under investigation for corruption because she closed a 50 no 35 billion euro deal with the CEO of Pfizer via text message and we still don't have those sex messages but she is the president of the European Commission and Marine Le Pen is not allowed to run as the President of France if that is not two-tier politics I don't know what is.

1:54:10 Who is this from? France 24, they give a little more detail on this story. Arriving at the National Rally headquarters, Jordan Bardella was tight-lipped but Marine Le Pen's protégé took to X to post that French democracy was executed on Monday with the unjust verdict As president of the party, Valderrana looks set to become its de facto candidate for the 2027 election after a court barred Le Pen from running for office for five years with immediate effect for embezzlement. The National Rally and right-wing allies have accused the Court of Overreach against a candidate whom polls show is among the frontrunners

1:54:46 The court is stating its political will, not its judicial or legal will but its political will. It's the first time in 40 or 50 years that I've seen this written down in black and white and that's what absolutely unbelievable." But political rivals such as communist Fabien Roussel posted that justice was justice and must be the same for everyone reminding that Le Pen herself regularly called for a firmer justice system. Jean-Luc Mélenchon and his far left France Unbowed Party, though seemed less comfortable with the verdict emphasizing that they would rather fight the national rally at the ballot box than in court

1:55:26 Outside of France, Le Pen's far-right allies rallied around her including Hungary's Viktor Orban who declared I am Marine in support and the Netherlands' Geert Verders who said he still believed in her becoming president. The Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov meanwhile accused more and more European capitals for violating democratic norms. Le Pen has a long history of political and financial support from Moscow You know this... No, they cooked her in Moscow! Of course you have to throw that in there. Oh please. She'd been financed by Putin. Ever since the earthquake in Myanmar formerly known as Burma from Burma to Bangkok which would have been a much better headline The white Christian nationalist eschatological podcasts of have gotten all heated up

1:56:16 And there is a growing concern, or a growing suspicion I should say that the Antichrist might be Emmanuel Macron. Married to a dude. Yeah, well It doesn't help his case. Let's put it that way Antichrist is my crow That's hilarious bullcrap by the way and somebody did point out one of our producers pointed out There is a giant fault that runs right through Burma there is yes I sent us a fault map. Yep. I live two fault maps and yeah Those are all the big fuzzy then he

1:56:59 And that's just the giant faults. The little faults are all over the place and that wasn't on there Let's face it, the biggest fault is us brother We're the fault... we are the fault Hey with that I want to thank you for your courage in the morning To you, the man who put the C in Amcan Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr John C DeMora We're about on track

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1:59:58 Wow that took a little too long. We love what our artists do. The artists, I have to say are getting better. I see the artist also using AI more as a tool now instead of just throwing stuff in there and hoping something great comes out which usually doesn't we have more and more artist who were understanding how to use it which appears to still be the only thing AI is really good at is generating stuff generating images generating video generating spam messages. I was talking my buddy Dave Jones And he said, yeah works in a like 100 firm CPA firm.

2:00:41 He says, and he does the administration. He says this is the worst year ever with phishing attacks from spam and AI is really generating a lot of this and it's at scale... Oh that's interesting, that makes sense. Email is the worst! I was like yeah, that's interesting so AI can help make email worse but can't seem to fix it or at least no one has tried that. Well that would be a nice product That's a product I would be interested in So we want to thank our artists for episode 1751, we titled that Talking Toilet. And uh... We like this one! Um..We had some ideas for improvement but it was the piece by GoFox and it was the... Is this what you call them? The Babushka dolls? What do you call them?

2:01:29 Yeah, babushka. The nesting dolls is technically what they are. So you had a Twitter doll... Nesting Russian dolls? Yes, do you have any I have a whole collection of them personally. I remember having them when i was a kid. I know we had that. I bet my sister still has some. She probably has one. I bought him in Russia when I was in Russia and how many were there because I think we had five that fit in and then.. I have a niner Wow! A huge! That's what she said. Dvorak's got a 9er, it's huge! It's beautiful. It was good piece. It was the Twitter to X to Grok

2:02:05 cute little faces. We thought it would have been even better if there was a little Elon that could fit inside the Grok, if I recall our conversation. Yes and in all these nesting dolls there's always one little solid piece, this little dinky thing that always gets lost. Give one of these things to a kid somehow that little one is gone or the dog's chewing on it. And the little one, a little bitty musk would've been perfect Yes, also the balance of the piece it could have been shifted to the left a little bit. Yeah just a tad even I agree quite completely perfectly and Kareem Dvorak color of the letters was not great Even if in more contrast or had an outline black outline help But that's just that's just uh i mean we're just giving you a little minor points It was good there were other things We looked at you like to take our money the canadian

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2:06:16 Obama you might die and I'd like to oh he's going in for a Commodore ship He'd like to be known as Commodore dubs, and it says thank you for your courage You might have not heard the fractal jingle in many years yeah, I agree. It's a long time Thanks brand good one JL GS LLC in Rockport Texas Sorry for being a douche for the longest time. Please let me know, let me know Adam Let me know Adam what the name of the dentist you went to get that surgery done on your teeth My dad has the same problems for years and here in Texas and has been And has been too count. I'm sorry been the countless doctors with no cure also To all the aviators that work on them

2:07:09 on the teeth and drive them or own them. I don't think it's the teeth. That's what he said, look us up we are in aircraft parts and tooling sales company down in Rockport Texas near Corpus Christi plus parts where I smell pious parts P-I-U-S that is the name of my company We have some serious stuff Cirrus? What is that? That's the kind of airplane I fly. It's the plastic airplane with a parachute, Cirrus. Oh those things okay mostly King Air, Citation Lear and Challenger stuff nice The salty air is really good for these parts down here so hurry up

2:07:52 They're not. He's being cynical there. He is being very cynical. Yeah, Saltier is bad. Mitch Ponsford is my periodontist name p-o-n-s f-o-r-d he's in Burney Texas Mitch Ponsford tell him Adam sent you for 10% off your first extraction and thank you JLGS then we have Cervantes in Topsham Maine 38008 nice nice I see you there with your boob Quick correction for John, the correct phrase in retail is the customer's always right in matters of taste. Yeah I sent him... this is bull crap okay? Wow! All you have to do is go to the wiki page and they document the whole thing goes way back so somebody some years ago put this in matters of taste in at the last minute and it got around he got around

2:08:53 Virally as bullcrap. Really? Because people are sending me... I've gotten a lot of... Go to the wiki page on The Customer is Always Right, it has a history. Okay. So we can't take Wiki as any truth is that what you're saying? The wiki page documents this and then refers to Snopes who also documents this as bullshit! I don't know how many times had to say it. Hmm let me ask Grok Grok will probably get it right. Let me see... The customer's always right is actually a shortened version of a longer sentiment, the full idea behind it was more nuanced It was popularized in the early 20th century by retailers like Harry Gordon Selfridge from Selfridges John Wanamaker and Marshall Field who used phrases like the customers always write in matters of taste No

2:09:46 I'm just telling, okay well that's so... Well that's slop! Hey now you're talking my language. It's slop! He goes on to say anyone who has worked with the public will understand that the customer can't always be right in all things because the customer are pricks Anyways, this is now my fourth annual birthday donation. Happy Birthday John! Please add me, Cervantes, my daughter Ayla who's turning 18 both on the 5th and niece Leona who's turning 7 on the 4th on the birthday list for this episode they're on there COVID woke me up and your relentless deconstruction has been more a constant caffeine drip that wakes, that keeps waking me up more and more and more and more just without the jitters. Now I need something that's the midpoint between Nazi propaganda and Zionist propaganda since you guys are just a couple of Zionist boomer shills

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2:12:19 Am I doing that right here? Yes, Preston Meyer. Where is that? It's at the very top of the note it probably not... Oh yeah, I can't see because the note is so damn big that its blocked there it is okay. You probably can't see that on your cell On February 22nd no wait um Yeah on February 22nd I saw exactly 333 emails in my box lo and behold the 333th email was a newsletter from No Agenda which usually end up in my spam folder! I knew I had to donate this is true On 1750, Adam said that he isn't part of a religion and that organized religion is quote, a problem. I was raised going to various Protestant churches my mom as a pastor in 2018 I was confirmed a Lutheran I have a good amount of experience with Protestantism

2:13:06 In my experience, there was always something missing with Protestantism. Even when reading a verse or passage it seemed like Protestants would intentionally miss the main message of a passage to fit their beliefs depending on the denomination of how liberal slash conservative they were There are multiple examples of Protestant not taking the words of Jesus literally or explaining them away to mean nothing I'm not sure what you're saying here yet but let's read on Two years ago, I met my now wife who led me to the Catholic Church. I was confirmed in December and found my way to Catholicism through the 2,000 year history of the church The evidence of miracles and insights into my own life preached continues to strengthen my faith along with knowing that Jorge Mario Bergoglio Francis is not the Pope! He's an imposter! And a liar

2:13:51 So is he agreeing with me here? I'm not sure. Well, Void Zero is definitely on that bandwagon Adam and John Christians of no agenda! I implore you to look deep into the history of the church Mass of The Ages is a good docuseries for understanding the reasons that people leave the Catholic Church I also recommend Michael Knowles. There are countless conversation conversion stories on YouTube to listen to and look up Anne Barnhart's YouTube channel and the Barnhart podcast understand why Jorge Borogoglio is the antipope! God bless you both. Thank you for your courage, I'm praying for you." Well thank you Preston! Not quite sure where you went with the note but... I think I brought up anti-Pope once on this show and got nothing but grief. Hey listen this is a donation note it's not you or me brother we're just saying it Sir Richard in Burbank California comes in with the same amount 3333 and he writes a short note He's in Hiroshima actually Japan he's not at Burbank Is it Hiroshima?

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2:15:33 Hey, let's drop 333.33 from Marti in Olten a beautiful town in the midst of the north of Switzerland I appreciate the groundwork being laid in the psychological warfare arsenal from the, in this moment insecurity management to hypophora and emotive conjugation. Please let's extend this list Bertrand Russell was quite the guy John direct questions about Minecraft to me Adam has my email address I annoyed him in recent months with telling him that I've heard John Bo John's Bohemian Grove story multiple times on the show Why?

2:16:09 I don't understand. Why do people email me about stuff that you do? Because that's exactly the way the world is supposed to be! Adam at curry dot com for all complaints No, no this is not good This is not good And he wants this... He's celebrating his 40th birthday. I know, but i'm looking for the chant, the donate to no agenda How does that go again? It's called Donate, I think Do you know how many there are of donates? It was like a chant wasn't it? Yeah! Donate to No Agenda

2:16:54 I don't remember all I remember is it's hypnotic. It's very hypnotic but I... Oh no, she thinking donate! Donate! No there is a different one that's a different one anyway celebrating for the revolutions around the Sun on 4-8 Gregorian donation chant for jingles maybe it's under Gregorian chants I guarantee that's not what it's called. No... Donate? Well, you're just gonna get a different donate- I can't help you, I'll give you the donate Johns. Sorry. You've got THE DONATE! DONATE!

2:17:42 Yeah, that's Gregorian. No, that's not the one. Donate to a no agenda... If I knew the rest of the... Yeah you can sing it yourself but you can't so Chap Williams is up he's in Edmond Oklahoma and this is the best one this came as a check 333 33 there's no note know nothing so he gets a double-up karma You've got karma Are you mad? are you mad today? I'm mangry Are you really? You seem a little bit on edge. No, it's just the EQ. Calipage is calling!

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2:19:49 I have no idea. Now here's the note you're talking about Yeah, this is uh so it is from Kieran Zverner in Brevard, North Carolina RoaDux 222.22 starts off by saying... You know, it's a it's theft of time. No, it just wrong notes robbery I've been sitting on this note since don't this donation and notes in February waiting to close on house And then just being at tightwad douchebag So some of this refers to old but still highly relevant news and then he's talking about the laugh tale He's talking about Michio Kaku

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2:27:38 For a resume that gets results, go to imagemakersinc.com for all of your executive resume and job search needs That's Image Makers Inc with a K And work with Linda Liu the Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! And jobs! Let's vote for jobs! Well, I hate to tell you this but you're gonna have to read the next one because it takes up my spreadsheet. Yeah that's really not okay...I mean you need a better spreadsheet Mark! No i don't well yes like reading long notes and then you know and your better reader than I am that's right yes mark yeah your good reader you're very talented in that regard

2:28:21 Flattery will get you everywhere. Mark Killabyan? He's in Glendale, California $200 long time listener almost every episode for the past four years and douchebag here in the spirit of value for value though I did leave a shout out to no agenda on my company's website for nearly all of 2024 garnering a few hundred thousand impressions well that's good Frankly, I would have donated but i'm a very broke entrepreneur pouring the past two years of pretty much everything. I have into building A new kind of dating app which finally launches the day this episode airs and now at last i'll have an excuse to start donating properly It's called data ing Data ing d-a-t-a-i-n-g data ing And i'm pretty proud of it

2:29:09 With help from David Nyer, an author of SPSS and core contributor to Cluster Analysis. Oh they've done something AI-y. Oh! Cluster analysis! We're hoping there's some cluster effing going on... Yeah exactly we built a data driven dating platform that matches people based on interests personalities and lifestyles basically it's a smart data drive matchmaker designed to connect people authentically and meaningfully even two no agenda listeners This sounds a lot like the plot to Bridget Jones' diary. Tell it about your dream girl and it'll go find her. No prompts, no bios, no pay to play our system rates every person on a constantly updating 1200 trait scale writes your bio and crafts custom descriptions for why every match may or may not work all of which adapts with users over time And this is just the bootstrap version 1 Oh my god you don't even have to show up for the date It does it for ya

2:30:13 I know you guys aren't totally sold on AI, correct? But this will be a good test because there's a lot of incels in the NOAAgender community as i received a lot of notes and this better work. I got a lot of notes from incels after my incel presentation at the last show yes In fact I have a series of clips if we have time Black Pills I know you guys aren't totally sold on AI, but i think it's probably good we teach it how to bring people together to balance out the tearing people limb from limb. Plus if we can do it while repopulating the earth again, it seems like a worthwhile endeavor Anyways I've spent anyways. I've spent too long typing this and I have way too much to do before tomorrow But I would love To someday hear about a no agenda love story made possible by this note thankful for all you Do ladies and gentlemen go try out data in The data ing app and let me know let Adam Curry know how it works out for ya

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2:35:10 So in I'm an ask Adam. Oh you do? Well, I wasn't prepared for an ask Adam You can play it quick jingle yeah If he can't find that's okay. I used to have these kind of at the ready But I don't know what happened. Yeah, what happened? I don't know what happens is something something happens

2:35:48 For some reason it's okay here we go. There we go. Ask a question, go! Okay there we go that one yes answer so I'm gonna play the clip then i'm going to ask you a question about the clip okay because there's an...I consider that what I would call illogic moment is to ask Adam Glipp. The General Services Administration announced it is significantly scaling back government-run child care services. WAMU's Jackson Zinnenberg has the story Up until this month, the GSA ran an office of child care services that oversaw a network of 82 government run services across the U.S., including Puerto Rico

2:36:33 Some are housed in federal office buildings, especially those in D.C.. Others are independent businesses supported by the government that give preferential admission to the children of federal workers. Those child care centers will now face closure or significantly higher operating costs." Okay what was the question? The question would be if they're having their money taken away why is there going to be significantly higher operating costs So what he said. Yeah, it makes no sense. They're having their money taken away? Where was that from? That's very interesting It was from WAMU in Washington DC is a local PBS station. Well that explains it

2:37:18 I just, what? This is like the same thing where they say oh you know that it generates 50... You're taking a billion dollars away from the park service. Do you realize that one billion dollars generates 55 billion dollars in revenue? What did he get fifty five billion in revenue why don't you recycle some of it! I mean we hear these illogic complaints constantly Well, that's what the media does. I mean they just take the press release and read it. And i don't think they're doing any work anymore No, I think they stopped doing work some time back So two things... so I have a series of clips if do we have time? I'm wondering if should keep it for Sunday maybe I'll keep this for Sunday But what series is the clip about? Well Morning Joe well so it was in relation to the incels black pill

2:38:11 And I did get a number of very interesting notes from one of our producers who is an incel and he explains why. I got notes from teachers saying, yes you know we try to do ballroom dance class to get boys and girls comfortable with each other in a... and it is ballroom dance. We try to do as different than forcing it? Yes correct. No he says forcing. I think he actually mentioned forcing Well, at what age? He is a didn't say just teacher. It makes the difference when you're forced to dance with a girl in the second grade first second and third grade yes it says a different impact on you than eighth grade we got note from Matt saying yeah we used to have junior assembly a junior assembly that's something similar

2:39:05 And he says, now we're raising a young man here. He has good head on his shoulders thanks to his mom but the battle is real and every day it's...the battle is real! I can keep these for Sunday if you want but Morning Joe had a piece on how Gen Z men are more religious than Gen Z women, and that there's a trend here. A trend of young men discovering Christianity And I thought it was interesting because it was on Morning Joke, if I can say that enough. Would you like to hear... Yeah you said it again! Would you like to hear this report? Well I think so Because you've played some Christian clips Some white Christian nationalist clip in the past two shows So I figure I would reciprocate None that I can recall but sure Yes you did what do you mean

2:39:57 We, we... yes. Two new surveys show Gen Z men are more likely to claim religious affiliation and even attend church than their female counterparts. Let's bring in NBC News correspondent and NBC News Now Daily anchor Morgan Radford for a closer look at this trend. Is she the new anchor? There is a new anchor at NBC Daily?

2:40:39 I don't watch the network that much. something that a growing number of political groups are tracking since this shift toward religion. It's happening at the very same time, there were also seeing more young men lean conservative on a number of social issues. It's a shift that has huge implications as we mentioned for the future of both parties. Ah! Huge implications for politics? This is a bullcrap story that's designed to explain away the fact that younger Gen Z men

2:41:24 voting Republican and they're eschewing the Democrats and their stupidities, and coming in conservative. And there's a big stink about it so now what they're doing here is they're blaming it on those horrible Christians. Have you seen this report? No, I'm just telling you that's what i believe is going on. Well let's have a listen 20 year old Owen Gerard has changed... I was on the steps of the Florida State Capitol and you know advocating for climate activism The Green New Deal all that stuff A lot! And then now? And I am a staunch conservative A conservative voter and a conservative Christian What changed? Oh wait a minute he was all in our team He switched teams This is this is a good example this would be MSNBC

2:42:10 gambit of association. They use this trick, so there's something going on that we don't like... Yep! And we know that our audience hates Christians, they're a bunch of atheists. So we're going to make the associations and do the linkage that doesn't exist. It exists with one guy or this guy or whatever it is, we are gonna generalize from that and make everybody look like a bunch of boneheads. All young men are Christians John! Are you kidding me? They're all Republicans! Well really it was the faith journey that really fundamentally transformed my political views time in modern American history, more young men than women are claiming religious affiliation. A gender gap of 7%, while men under 30 who lean Republican have also outpaced Democrats for the first time in more than a decade. You get aligned with other men that are like hey I actually have the same views as you and it's like

2:43:06 it's okay to have that view. Here at the Faith Forward Pastor Summit in Gainesville Georgia hosted by an arm of the conservative activist group Turning Point USA, the call for young conservative men... We're called to be biblical and we're called to be political! By the way if you want if you want to make Christians look crazy get one of those guys. We are called to be man and were And so they bring in one of these groups and they're the promise keepers.

2:43:56 For Shane winnings who leads the National Men's Ministry Group promise keepers what kind of man are you it's all part of a bigger strategy I think it's very intentional and I think the messaging from the administration was very intentional. Ah, you see? The president determines culture. Yeah, it was to win those kind of people You know, the young people. The men who want to be men If you fear culture then you don't fear God Men who want too or can be convinced too return to what he calls traditional values What we're seeing in this erosion where now anyone can be a family Two men can be a family and they can adopt kids They hate gays! Which I think is problematic Two women could be a family and they could adopt kids Marriage doesn't mean anything anymore What threat is that to you? if those two men love each other

2:44:46 Because you can point statistically to our society being eroded from within because two men automatically create an unstable household, because that is not God's design for a family. And you think that hurts America? Absolutely! Which extends to policy issues that he believes are fundamentally against God. Oh yeah... Now we're getting into the nitty-gritties I mean and you're absolutely right I think it backfires what they're trying to do here. Let's hit wokeness! When we talk about the intertwining of faith and politics, a lot of the messaging here is about eradicating wokeness. Yeah What does that mean? Well i think wokeness you know... Is really anything that comes against God's design It's this progressive mentality Oh please Wokeness is like DEI

2:45:34 Wokeness is anything that's against God. Yeah, a hundred percent house Oh well I mean it it is everything it claims to be against you know DEI is discriminatory It is racist DEI says what's your skin color and who do you sleep with? You're getting to the front of the line Can I push back on that please my interpretation of DEI and affirmative action is essentially saying Not that you must promote me because I'm black, but you are not allowed to discriminate against me. But that's already a part of our Constitution and already a part of our laws. DEI has been used to push people to the front of the line who don't belong there If someone calls some points and says that's a DEI hire... I think that's wrong too Do you think they're pointing at you or do you think they're pointing at me?

2:46:19 I don't know. I'll tell you what though, i think it's wrong to make a snap judgment like that is not godly because It assumes that the only people who can have good things are straight white men exactly and that's a problem. I'm excited You have your bible so at promise keeper Hold on a second. First of all What kind of reporter gets into an argument? Can I push back on that please with someone they're interviewing. I mean, they're supposed to be hearing the point of view and then maybe finding somebody else with a different point of view you do all this kind of thing, you're supposed to be fairly neutral but then to get into an argument as though your the contradiction to whatever this guy's saying It's bad journalism.

2:47:15 Men central to that I'm not just talking about white men. I'm talking about men young men in particular So what are the political? implications of that report you just showed it I'm actually glad that you said not just white men because this coalition That is bubbling up is actually becoming more inclusive racially which has been a little bit frankly to watch in the data But what economists say, is that if you actually look if women are leaving the church Where are these far-right men going to meet these women? If you're not meeting at the church, if you're not meeting at the bar. What they're saying this is actually could have implications romantically it could have implications on the birth rate because you can't pair if women are ideologically so far left and you're moving so far right which means you're actually sort of compromising or putting at risk a very traditional family that you're trying to see So I found this to be an interesting stretch

2:48:02 It's like, if you join the church you're actually going to become an incel because there are no women in the church. That'll be the day and by the way, right? And so now they bring in two fun terms. I always use the term Sparkle clergy or rainbow church but they have new ones well, I'm reading a lot about women Not getting married opting not to get married not finding we've talked about her yep I'm curious these young men are going to the church and first and then finding the conservative political messaging or are they seeking it out? And they're being indoctrinated. And finding it in churches It's a great question sort of like the chicken or the egg and the answer is both, and what surprised me

2:48:52 pastors we spoke to said that the more strident their message is against the mainstream. We already know that basically two-thirds of the country believes that same sex marriage is okay, abortion is okay, transgender rights should be part of this tapestry in this country but they're saying the more strident they are against those things They can use that as a recruitment tool. They said, we don't believe in gummy bear Jesus or candy Christianity and they said- I love gummy bear Jesus! And I never forgot sort of the analogy of one pastor he's look you're welcome to come break bread with us and have food at the table but don't think we're changing the menu The menu was set millennia ago Yes, and then the final clip is about the loneliness and regression. You know it to me as we were having the same conversation around a loneliness epidemic of men young man especially it sounds like that the church is a place where people are finding community and that community potentially could be I don't mean the only time I can think of this radicalizing them around this particular there you go there you go radicalize them ideologies relates

2:49:55 the nuclear family and what millennia said. And I thought it was interesting because- It's crazy stuff they're doing there! I don't think millennia had you in mind, or me. Did they know you were black? That is what i want to know. I think they are saying it's a place that they can find community, but it's what that community looks like now. And they're saying they want to revert back to this traditional community but they say that progress was such a bad word right? They don't want to see progress so the question is... I didn't hear anyone say they don't wanna see progress! I didn't hear that either where she getting that from? Or does need to be regressed? From her lesbian friends?! Yeah exactly and

2:50:41 They don't want to see progress. The question is, is traditional even enough? Or does it need to be a regressive community?" And the opposite side of that is you look at these progressive Christians who say if you're denying someone inclusion in your church because of DEI or some such thing are you reflecting the fact that God created us all in his image. It's interesting, no one said they reject anyone. Because if he created us in his image He created all of us and all our multiplicities so it is an interesting conversation Remarkable piece and remarkable conversation Oh remarkable my ass! Remarkable my ass... Yeah they don't know what to do with this Well they do actually like oh just make it Trump

2:51:30 That brings us to the last two tick-tock clips. Oh, I'm so happy let's go with the tick-tock clips start with Kathy Kathy it is I just had dinner with a friend that works for Catholic charities of Dallas Texas okay stick with me here this is gonna disturb all of you they just got a letter from The tip top of the people in Washington telling them that they would not get money to help their charitable organization feed people if they did not give up all of the names, addresses and information of all of the El Salvadorian. I can't even do it. It can't even talk about it because it makes me want to cry

2:52:20 She said she is so torn, but it came down from up above that they have to give them up. They have to give up all of their information if they want the money to help everyone. How is this what we are living in? How is this what is happening? I can't laugh and earlier today but I'm finishing out the day fucking crying over socialized and under educated They want to get a hold of the MS-13 people and they won't be able to feed them. But the Catholic Charities that she's talking about is an immigrant resettlement organization... Yeah, it's a scam! It's a scam yeah, and I like how there's a subtext there of it's coming from up above like God is doing it. Nice little... Well we know what he was talking about, he came from Trump. Come on, not God.

2:53:15 And here we have our Wisconsin nut. Elon? With the cheese on his head? No, another one. So Elon Musk is getting charged with a possible felony in the state of Wisconsin for bribery charges and if he comes to the state of Wisconsin he will be arrested also Mike Johnson was just arrested It's coming unraveled. What? I said that i thought eventually Elon Musk was leaving and wasn't sure if he was being deported but it seemed like it just that I would let you guys know blessings to you make it a great day and I am one more day proud to be from the state of Wisconsin all right well, I have to say this is no nuttier than Hillary Clinton is already at Gitmo

2:54:03 And I'll admit quantum dots, quantum dots on the ballots and the grid is going down. Oh man social media is ruining- Mike Johnson's already been arrested And Elon, if he shows up in Wisconsin... We saw him in Wisconsin. Yeah He's going to be arrested if he shows up It's unbelievable where this is worse than anything I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah! That'd be fab! They're on no agenda Still on the way we have three dynamite brand new end of show mixes you will not want to miss. We have tips of the day because I also have a tip of the day today which i'm excited to share it's not always John sometimes it's also me and we have meetups galore so if John will hop to it, we've got a nice list of well wishes for your 73rd birthday and by the way John in advance

2:55:04 Happy birthday. Well, thank you very much and we're going to start off with some people that helped us here in starting with Joan. Joan Gasparoni in Isle of Palms South Carolina 133. Hey, Hacon Andreessen. What do you think? I don't know. Hacon 10535 That's a that's a birthday donation for his niece Tilda who turned two Geekrolling in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. 10101 Matthew Toye in Carnegie Pennsylvania 100 and he's donating for all the free entertainment Curtis Thomas 100 He's from Parts Unknown

2:55:49 He has a long note about how great we are. Thank you very much, we appreciate that. Baron Ladeckin in Houston Texas 100 John Robineau 100 Kellen Prince in Hollywood Florida 100 Sir F A N Beck in Vista California 100 Then we got Kevin McLaughlin 8008 he's the Archduke of Luna lover of America and lover of boobs conquered North Carolina Baron, and now we have birthday. These are all happy birthday John donations I'm gonna skip it. I don't know why we don't have cities in most of these because It comes right off the spreadsheets this happens with PayPal once in a while I don't know what causes it but we're gonna thank everyone in order Starting with Baron Victor and then Dame flying fish they both wish me a happy birthday era de Darien William Bullock

2:56:47 Marjorie Santelli, James Borders. Also mentions four more years there's Kevin McLaughlin again 75-68 is your stuka Luna Thank You Kevin Patricia come a KMACK what a great name come back Irma and Anita and they're in Holland Irma and Anita. And there's a happy birthday from Irma and Anita, love the show! Oh thanks We find out about before COVID hit, we found out at the right time That's right David Schwendinger followed by Dave Schwannebeck Schwendinger and Schwannebeck Schwendinger and Schwannebeck and then Devin O'Connell he has his birthday himself on the 9th

2:57:41 Paolo, Paulo, Paulo, Paulo, Porco. I'm not sure. Sir Phenom? Ryan Zukowski, Brendan Blemmer, Baronetess Ellen. She says she does have a Montgomery Alabama that did come through Wow 73 revolutions JCD no wonder you're so grouchy Loves your is but then she says love you know Baronet Ellen wants house-buying karma. Oh, it's David Sousa who says No one wait where is the? Brendan Flemmer Brendan Flemmer was a grouchy Brendan Flemmer She still wins or she Brendon's a he yes And he said that and he's okay bearing net tests Ellen in Montgomery Alabama. That's your right that's different She needs some house buying karma

2:58:41 We'll give you that at the end. David Sousa in Turlock, California. Sousa? Baron anonymous cop. David Sousa says he donated $133 last year for the first time was never deduced. You've been de-douche'd! By the way what an opportunity this is your ham radio birthday this is your 73 it's your ham it's your ham birthday Oh, well that's... I'll make a note of that in the next newsletter. 73s everybody! You got to item 49 and you finally it dawned on you great. It didn't dawn on me so... You got me beat. Just realized This is the way we do it

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3:06:18 We love the meetups, we love the meetup reports. There's gonna be a cool meet up actually there is couple of cool meet ups on John's birthday but first we have a report from a very small meet-up but that doesn't matter A reportless report from the Not For Fools Meet Up in Knoxville In the morning Noah Jenin Nation this is Commodore Baron Bones checking in from Barley's at the Knoxville meet up Only two people showed up Me and someone else will hand off the microphone here just moment Next time we'll do a better job of announcing this. Hey, could you get me a jingle? It says hey it's Adam Currie and the Noble Jingle Soul Make sure all of you Knoxville producers can check it out Kind of a lonely night. Yeah I'm a disco jockey That's right gotta do one on his school night cuz I'm busy on the weekends in the morning

3:07:03 I want to thank you for your courage. This is Commodore Hogfather coming to you live from Knoxville, Tennessee Wow two Commodores and they didn't have anybody else y'all few people missed out in Knoxville And of course you could have had your server in there add your servers In your meetup reports they love it the establishments love it and it's fun to listen too There's a meetup taking place right now the knowage in the New York City Meet up at the perfect pint West in New York City if you're, New York Go hang out with them also The Northern Wake publical slave gathering starts and about an hour from now hoppy endings in Raleigh North Carolina on Saturday in Japan Osaka Japan sir bill of Osaka has organized the Osaka Castle cherry blossom viewing and amygdala shrinking

3:07:46 meet up at 133 Japan time and there it is the northern Silicon Valley JCD birthday extravaganza bash 3 33 p.m.. Pacific at Pizzeria Violetta Violetta in Oakland, California go say hi to John ladies make sure you kiss him he loves it That's it for our meetups many more on the list you can find them all at no agenda meet ups comm You can search by lists search by area and thank you all for the producers who organize these they are producer organized But it's a great way to get some protection because that's what you get with that connection They are your first responders an emergency. No one should have meet ups calm if you can't find one near you I recommend you start one yourself sometimes

3:08:32 You wanna go hang out with all the nights and days. You wanna be where you won't be, triggered or held to blame. You wanna be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. As we always like to do, we'd like to select an end of show ISO which is really nothing more than just propagating the truth that artificial intelligence is only good for ISO's. There's no other reason to use it Here's my real ISO... I call him a spook That's all I got and I'm sure yours are much better You could have done No, I'm not even trying Well, I must stop doing these if you stop trying! You have a lozenge in your mouth

3:09:19 Yeah, I'm chewing on it now to get rid of it. Okay let's start with the ISO this better Wow that was better than a dirty Sanchez How can I compete? I can't compete and what you have a dirty mind John C Dvorak 73 and still going strong with his dirty mind That was a good one What's the next Uh, this is fine. Dadgummit! Another fine presentation... No, that doesn't beat the Dirty Sanchez Yeah but you can use it. Try this one. The last was so good Mmmmm, that was so good Wow, that's better than a dirty Sanchez That's the one man, that's the winner There are no two ways about it Hey, It is time now for John's Illustrious Tip of the Day

3:10:09 I created F.A.S.T for you and me, just to tip with JCB And sometimes Adam Created by Dana Burnetti. Can I do my... Yeah, do yours first and then I'll follow up We were talking about toilet seats on a pre- on several we have talked about toilet scenes quite a bit on this show as it turns out. We shouldn't Well there is a Toilet seat that is an electronic bidet toilet seat It does the full The full wash the full everything you want it has the heated seat And it doesn't look dorky

3:10:46 It actually looks pretty cool. It is the Washlet C5 round electronic bidet toilet seat and I... Did we get it? Wash-let? Washlets, the washlets W A S H L E T C 5 round electronic bidet toilet seats And it won't break the bank. Now I have a... Well, it's not a whole toy It's just the seat. It's just the seat yes But it's not like some dorky you know it looks like a normal seat. It has a remote control. Yeah that is what it supposed to look like. It has a remote control and You can control the sprayer. It has a remote control so somebody can walk by while your in pot next thing you know your soaked? Well you should use..you keep the remote control in the bathroom

3:11:30 Um, well why does it need to be remote then? You're right there. Well because otherwise you have like a huge handle sticking out of the seat and that's what makes it look dumb. Looks like a geriatric device. Okay, so there's a bunch of these is the Toto, there's the Washlet C5... Yeah that's it! The Toto is 350 bucks from Amazon but the Washlet C5 which looks like the exact same thing in Chinese version yeah from AliExpress is $277. Yeah but you're forgetting to include the 54% tariff Well, now's the time before the tariff goes into play. Get your toilet seat quick everybody! Meanwhile Walmart has the same seat for $493 and... Well this is good so there are different places you can get it. So this is an example of Amazon actually having cheaper than Walmart which is not usually the case. Interesting. And you can get in two days from Prime.

3:12:30 I I just prices times. Yeah, I know but I'm 350 you know I'm considering this um well You get the one from China then I always feel exact product if there's anything you use every single day like shoes or You know, mattress. I use our toilet every day! I am definitely considering this... Well you don't think the same one from Amazon is not the China one? It's the same one?! I didn't say it wasn't, i'm just talking about the model. I'm just saying this is what you want. This looks sleek and modern and does the deed. It's a good looking product. Good looking product alright. You are in a grouchy mood. Arrgh!!

3:13:13 Alright, well I got something that's offbeat. Although we can just stay with that one tip we don't need two. I want your tip! This is something JC turned me on to and so i got one and checked it out It's kind of cool to have...I think its important to have one around the house A Geiger counter!! I HAVE a geiger counter Do you have the little handheld one that's about the size of a cell phone? No, I have a World War II Geiger counter. One of those yellow boxes. Yeah no these are newer versions. Yeah yeah. Yeah i had one of those they're too big and clunky. They're very clunky this is a modern geiger counter of course it was made in China and GQ Electronics actually says Seattle

3:13:58 It says Seattle, Washington on it when it opens but its Chinese. Give me a break and this is GQE GMC 800 you can get that but there's other ones that are similar they're all under $100 and they have a little sensor on the side of Geiger tube at least the modern version I guess if somebody has miniaturized it And I think it's handy to have and I had checked it out I have a uranium rock Amongst my collection. Of course you do! Doesn't everybody have a uranium rock laying around? Next to the cheddar cheese hat? It's sealed in a lead thing and I checked it, yep it could see the uranium and so it works... It's funny because I'm actually slightly radioactive

3:14:48 Wow. It seems that humans, I mean the background on this is around 8 or just no radiation at all and then when you're hanging it around a person it'll go up to 10 now if you hit the uranium skyrockets Have you tried a banana? Not yet not to mention I should try a banana What other things...I mean what is the actual usefulness of a Geiger counter around the house to check your water supply, maybe to check if somebody's serving you tea. You might want to make sure that it's not laced with plutonium to try and kill you. That's one good use. Is this a portable device that you can take? Yeah, its the size of a cell phone! It is very small. Oh, so you can take it with you to the Russian Tea Room where they might try something... You could take it to the Russian Tea Room and then pull it out. And then also take it to the fish market to make sure you're not getting radioactive salmon. These are all tips within tips.

3:15:43 There's a lot of potential uses. So I just think everyone should have a Geiger counter, come on it is 2025! Yeah that's right everybody get your Geiger counter find out more at tipoftheday.netnoagendafund.com Wow wow wow That's why people stick the whole show out, John. Just to hear stuff like that It is 2025 Everybody should have a Geiger counter I cannot disagree Cannot disagree Particularly at the Russian Tea Room It's very important

3:16:26 Let's see we have oh bowl after Bowl coming up next on the no agenda stream Stick around in the troll room if you're still there troll room dot io or you can just keep listening on your modern podcast app Everything switches over automatically. It's a beautiful system from the number one podcast directory in the universe Podcast index org End of show mixes, we have new ones. Hugh Allison haven't had one from him in a while Steve Jones of the Jones Brothers Syndicate is back and James Boss all wonderful end-of-show mixes And we'll be back on Sunday you will of course enjoy The Media Deconstruction The News Ripapartage and I will be coming to you then again from the heart of the Texas Hill Country in FEMA Region number 6 In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry

3:17:18 And from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain, I'm John C. DeVorex See you guys at the Violetta Pizzeria in Oakland next Saturday Happy birthday John and remember us at knowwitchandthedonations.com Until Sunday adios mofos a hooey hooey and such! I'm not buying. You're not buying it? It's bullshit! Again, you're not buying anything. Can i sell you anything today?! For that... No, I am as you would say NOT BUYING IT. Yeah, I saw the fly and I'm not buying it.

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3:18:40 When fascism isn't just coming, it's already here. We are going to talk about what people are actually doing to resist this. Drink it old fashioned. Number two took a nap. Number three delighted coworkers with sarcasm. Put Black History Month stickers on your stickers on bulletin board and gave out emotional support dumpster fires. And last but not least, number one executed low productivity tasking, number two identified opportunity to transition to high productivity tasking, executed low productivity tasking, number three developed plan for Doge to F off.

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