Liz Cheney vs. Sarah Palin

00:01 Well, if that's because Liz lesbian lisbian lesbian lez I mean come on it's easy to make this mistake. Adam Curry John C Dvorak It's February 18th 2010 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 175 This is no agenda Hot on the trail of the missing c-span archives and coming to you live from the 13th floor The Marriott marquee in downtown San Francisco In the crackpot command center in Gitmo nation west California in the morning I'm Adam Curry. And better late than never here in foggy Silicon Valley North, I am John C. Dvorak. It's a Clack Bottom Buzzkill! In the morning... In the morning to you John? In the morning-in the morning. There is always a morning somewhere. Somewhere it is a morning. Oh man, I'm so sick Yeah, you have a cold or something. I think I got a swine flu. It's the second wave of the swine flu coming through. Eh, it's possible So I'm in the uh

00:59 in San Francisco again. Yeah, I'll be back in the new Hilltop Watchtower on Sunday just up here to enjoy the fog! It's been so wonderful and we got like ferries are closing down airplanes are crashing it's crazy by the way your take on the airplane crash and I had some clips of that details but obviously don't have too many clips today You said thought they turned right but they turned left. Yeah, no I... So we're referring to the three employees of Tesla Motors and i must have received 150 emails of people saying ah there's a clear case if two to the head big oil killing executives seems unlikely yeah it was like you know is very unfortunate accident so what did do is that I checked out San Jose Airport information

01:52 Because flying into wires, I mean the thing is you have no details. What i understand It blew up in the air when it flew into the transmission lines. Now I think you pretty much have to hit the tower to explode in the air? No, they hit the top of the tower and took out all the power in the area Oh they did hit the top of the tower Yeah Here's a way that was described And like I said I had this on clips but I can tell what it was The plane took off and then quickly veered to the left instead of just going straight out in the direction of the runway which is supposed to do and veered to the left really quickly, and then almost took a complete right turn just a very oblique right turn. And then couldn't get altitude I guess and slammed into the tower top of the tower, sheared off a wing and went crashing into the houses that were there. Okay so first thing I did was look at the notices to airmen, the NOTAMs

02:49 and it clearly said there was transmission tower, a hundred foot transmission tower to the east of the field so that would have meant they would have turned right but then I was looking further yesterday and looking at the reports that make no sense because there's no houses there you're basically in the bay. So that's not where they came down And uh... the departure even- because you can depart in bad weather You can depart in fog no problem but now to hear that they suddenly veered left I believe that this may have been a case mechanical failure because it was a two-engine twin engine plane exactly and probably one of the engines failed they couldn't recover quickly enough and you know when one of the engines differs in power, you have a high likelihood of a quick snap to the other direction

03:35 the opposite direction of the engine that has failed. And apparently never got above 60 feet? Oh yeah, well then you're definitely into the tower so I think it's probably mechanical... no matter what in aviation we call this a bad day. Yeah and they have an apparently very experienced pilot and a nutball and so on. Wait a minute why does an experienced pilot have to be a nutball No, I said and a nutball he was an engineering crazy. You know well Yeah see this thing always but it's all about the maintenance it really It's either mechanical or its pilot error there's just no other There's there's no other options so sounds to me like this was a mechanical failure as horrible Yes terrible But you know what? I don't like is on the you know people are like yeah They should have taken off in fog and that means it's no problem. You can take off from fog. It's not an issue

04:27 Yeah, not an issue at all but it blows Hey John who are our executive producers for episode 175 of this fine program we call no agenda which you're probably not tweeted about yet. Oh I should you write yeah Which one do we might my tweet Twitter army gets perked at me when I don't tweet a check in and say it anymore Let me let me Twitter this real quickly as you talk about something and then we'll give the executive producers that way We can get to take and get some credit at least be heard by whoever is pays attention to my stuff Okay. Well, there is quite a lot of stuff to talk about today. Oh it's way too much yeah which always makes me think, you know somehow we have to get to this third show week because

05:16 These shows just become too long and at the end of the show, I was listening to it you know. I do monitor what we're doing. Nobody complains about the length of the show nobody no but i feel rushed after we do like the donations like three quarters of the way through the show then we have like 15-20 minutes and there's all this stuff that we still have to get to and then you know and and I'm still missing stuff And it's not like it is unimportant. Today actually I think we need to talk a lot about the state of the United States finances and who, of course, is footing the bill for us – well ultimately we are but I've got some reasonable insight into the debt holders of US debt China and Japan there has been a shift there change in what the United States is doing about

06:04 So we'll get to that. Also, mysteriously some archives from the c-span dot org website video archives have gone missing ones that I was looking for so we'll talk about that and well you know last night I was watching Before I went to bed, I was watching some of the Olympics. I have to say it for someone it's hypnotizing Yeah, no, there is a problem in fact that day I was listening on the way we went to the city yesterday to have dinner with you and I was listening to one of the local shows they were actually watching the Olympics and giving a play-by-play. And even that was interesting. Of curling? No, that can't be interesting! It was actually for some reason interesting... Oh no oh no. I watched the women's downhill it was like wow because what is great about her... That girl is unbelievable she looks like she's having the time of her life. Have you seen the legs on those girls?!

07:06 Horses legs, unbelievable. Well that's what you have to do if you're gonna be that... You know? You have to have a lot of power in those legs too. Oh yeah! But I loved watching it because it was all icy They had a lot of really spectacular crashes, and I feel bad when they crash but stills like oh you know our girl Vaughn is just Right we had Von was gold and the other girl with silver yeah. Yeah excellent all right our girls Just throw themselves down the slope no like maniacs hurtling down it's like whoa I got some respect

07:43 And then she puts on a little tiara. Okay, all right so we got our executive producers for this show we actually have an anomaly We have three executive producers who all came in with the same amount of money, with the exception of one guy who added 50 cents which I'm not going to separate him out because of that. And then only one... Wait a minute! If someone comes in at fifty cents over, I feel that they do have a step above the rest You know, these numbers are also so interesting that I'm giving...I think they should all be named executive producer. Okay! But you can put Stephen Pelsmaker's buddy the separator number one because Pelsmaker gave us 333-54 And this is on behalf of the separator right? Yeah who will now be knighted on Sunday by the way

08:37 Wow, okay and So when I was Steven Stevens already at night isn't he yeah? Yeah Okay so now the separator who's Stephen is basically paid for his knighthood And we're not doing we're only doing night hoods on Sunday. That's the deal now yeah Yeah on Sunday He's an air traffic controller obviously but we had two other guys who gave 333 well it's the magic number John don't you know that by now? Well here let me name It's the magic number in the morning. Brother, yeah okay let me just read you this here is our first Luca Cappadoro in Milano Hey one of the pig nations Italian guy listening to us yes nice a micro he's got a note pronto Luca

09:27 A microquake caused by global warming urged me to donate the perfect palindrome, which I promptly did before the crook takes all my money away. I guess he's referring to the government. Belascone. Belascone right? So what am I thinking? He says, By the way, I'd rather be waterboarded with a bottle of Ferrarelli instead of Avion. Come on! I'm Italian. PPS yes. No agenda 172 and 173 back-to-back over a long late drive over a weekend of ski and spa in the Alps. Suck it, Adam." Uh... what does that mean? I don't know. It's okay! I'll suck it hold on because I of course can reach it. Okay here hey okay then we got at another 333

10:18 from Matthew Hawking in Brisbane, Australia. First John is right. I typed like him as well with my de novo Logitech keyboard leaning back in my chair It's the best in your in your underwear We have to be in your underwear yeah Says he's went on and on Don was Stephen Conroy and crud Kevin Rudd. I love small tits It's my right to look at them without feeling like a sicko you bastards Please use the attached funding to acquire hookers in blow Okay, right on thank you

11:11 Matthew, awesome. So those are our associate. Okay, an associate great another Australian we get we must have hit a chord with the Australians last show it's about time Another palindrome 20202 nice from Suzanne Tacey in Noosa Queensland long-time listener that actually I think is Queensland I think it's Brisbane and Queensland. Queensland, Australia long time listener of DSC and NAA John if you can pronounce my husbands name he will donate too his name is Massimo he makes what is regarded as the best Italian cream No, you messed that up dude. You messed that up its Mas-si-mo That's why I said Ma-si-mo. You said ma-SIMO! Well okay just pronounced it correctly Ma-Si-Mo

12:00 He makes what's regarded as the best Italian ice cream in this part of the world. Ciao! Another Italian connection. Pronto Massimo So I don't know, we got Australian and Italy as our keys this week Well this is good and first of all highly appreciate what everyone is doing for this show because it does keep us going And its great to have these executive producers You know by now that it really does help you further your career We have empirical proof It can get you jobs if not only through the karma factor so Stephen Pels markers on behalf of the separator Luca Capodoro was it going to order? Luca Capodoro, okay. Hold on. Let me correct that in the show notes and

12:47 Matthew Hawking, our executive producers and then of course Suzanne Tassi is our associate executive producer. Thank you so much! You can put it on your CV. You know who could use this? Who could use this on his resume? Tom Merritt. It would look good on Tom Merritt's resume. Tom Merritt needs more stuff on his resume. He needs more stuff on his resume. TomMerritt.com We were just kind of kidding around the other day but if anybody wants to go look up Tom Merritt's resume if you want somebody who's a detail-oriented. If you want to see a resume that should have an executive producer credit for no agenda on it, then this is the guy. Toms. Tom should have one. All right so again thank you very much and now of course you too can follow our formula which is so simple! Our formula is this we go out... We hit people in the mouth And we take no prisoners while we do it darnit!

13:49 New World Order shut up slave So before we get to your massive amount of clips John I just want to get this out so there's a lot of information and by the way that shit The show notes are chock full once again Find them at no agenda show calm And if you use the pocket know agenda iPhone app, you can actually search through the show notes Have you ever seen that thing John is amazing? It's amazing dick Seriously. Oh, um... I'll get to that later. Anyway! So there's a lot of information about Japan now surpassing China as the owner of US debt. Apparently, China divested themselves with $34.2 billion worth of treasuries and so I guess the Federal Reserve basically owns like you know five trillion dollars worth of our debt which of course we pay for by borrowing from them and that's you know that's the whole scam with the Federal Reserve

14:51 But now Japan has moved forward and they own, I think was it so just like you know like They're almost neck-and-neck but Japan owns more a little bit more than China now even though Japan also divested of 11 billion dollars worth of our treasuries. So It all the sudden that clicked in my head made so much sense why there's all this saber rattling against Iran because of course Iran supplies what is like 20% of China's oil I don't know that. Yeah, it's up there like 20%. And so of course this is not... we're not pissed off at Iran which by the way I just like to remind you 80% of that country is under 30 they are all beautiful have cell phones and iPods and its a very civilized country they are not camel jockeys riding through the desert

15:46 as our mainstream media would have you believe the way they talk about them. But that's actually saying, hey China... The tribal areas! Yes the tribal areas That's a meme by the way they use that everywhere Yeah it makes it sound like camel jockeys I've been in the Berkeley tribal areas Well they do ride camels out there I have news for ya Camel toes So anyway, with those spandex... I can't even think of it. Hey! Get to the point. Alright so it makes so much sense that they're threatening Clinton's Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and everyone else is now starting to get on board they're threatening Iran

16:26 And it's like a real threat now. Now, it's getting little more scary than it was maybe eight or nine months ago but that of course is basically to tell China hey you guys better not do that anymore you know? You better not be selling any of our treasuries! You'd better hold on to that we're gonna cut your oil off and then the other hand it clicked all of a sudden because I didn't realize Japan owned so much of our debt this is why they've been screwing with Toyota Because this isn't like no coincidence. Coincidence? I think not! When it's, you know first it's the accelerator then it's the brakes now It's the...you know there was another issue Now there's another Toyota recall these are all government recalls and information is sketchy at best Yeah besides that You know this has been pointed out before that There's been numerous American car

17:16 recall situation deal out of it that were never executed and by the way there's another aspect is I'm not convinced that this theory of yours is correct. I was thinking though about the Toyota thing and because Obama's in and they're so pro-union, I think there's a union thing going on here too because if you start with this is the next piece of news that's gonna come out You watch. The Toyota cars that have all these problems are made in the United States by non-union people that should be in the UAW and more skilled." So I also thought that was an angle, but when you see how the president of Toyota... ...the chairman, how he has to make these public apologies there's a lot of traditions there in Japan. Yeah, in the olden days he would've stabbed himself. Yeah! Harakiri exactly

18:04 So you predict it'll be about non-union jobs. I think that's valid and it may go hand in hand, It's a twofer basically on the one hand is probably saying hey Non unionized people screw you by the way if you're in a Union you get a much better health care plan You'd be exempt with the Cadillac plans and all that which is still in the hopper but I think we might see Honda recalls next. Watch, mark my words. Okay well that will prove it if we...I don't think thats going to happen because then its starts to look too fishy. I think they'd go overboard if its all of a sudden Honda. Like they dont' go overboard with other things? Well we'll see.

18:48 Well, I'm... okay. Anyway my theory is- Watch the meme that it's American Toyotas! The Japanese Toyotas don't have any problem whatsoever because you know a lot of the Toyota's to come over here especially the high end Lexus' are made in Japan they're not made here at all Agreed and understood but there, but you cannot deny that we've got a lot of stuff going on with their finances the Fed has to now essentially take back the 2.2 trillion dollars they pumped into the system They have to wind down that stake they have no I agree And I think it does send a message when you say okay You guys if you can't help us out here when we need help yeah? We're gonna screw ya Look what kind of damage we can do yeah

19:32 And in all fairness, these recalls... I mean there's no... it's almost like rumoring. It is not even real recall information like oh looks like it could be a software thing could be this could be that and every day there something new with Toyotas. There are just no coincidences like that with three recalls in a row. Yeah, I agree. It was fishy from the beginning. Alright! That was my opening salvo. Alright well that's okay now here's mine So Gibbs... No, you know I watch his show every single morning. Gibbs? He has a great show! You know he comes up on his stage- Gibbs for those who don't know is the press secretary for the White House and he has this show because it's on C-SPAN it's an hour in the morning. He should actually get out there say good morning to everybody! And he's like.. The way answers questions

20:30 I can't even play the clips for you because it makes me so angry. And i hope he's listening to this show a lot of people... Oh, he is not listening to this show give him a break A lot of people tweeted him saying hey listen to No Agenda! I did Yeah, a lot about a lot of other people did too. Well, he said that he started a Twitter account called PressSec or something like that. Good name why don't just douchebag? So he starts this thing up. He says, I'd like some advice and his first post was, I'd like some advice on how to do this, you know the Twittering thing? So I said the best advice I could give is don't listen to no agenda! We really don't want him listening

21:07 Probably not. So anyway, I was watching the other day and then you can get to your story The first question was about this Taliban leader they captured in Pakistan Yeah that's where my first story is You're taking it now Oh sorry okay Do you have him talking? Do you have a clip of him talking No i don't have them talking I just want to mention discuss this for a second. Because one of the things I always tell people to do when they're deconstructing the news is that you always want to look for, and you could do this by the way with the reviews of Confessions Of An Economic Hitman especially after you listen or hear it You go back in time and look for the reviews of the book specifically the ones that slam the crap out of it

21:49 and then find out who those writers are, and then look at some of their other material. And you'll see... You will probably have found or you have a good shot at finding one of these plants, these intelligence agency plants that are all throughout the media. And you know, you can't be absolutely sure but you can kind of see a pattern to many of what the stories are about where they got this information what's kinda off. So the first thing Gibbs Twitter's about is a story by an AP reporter talking about this Taliban character, the Pakistani Taliban which a lot of people believe do not really exist and they're just a creation of the Indian intelligence agencies.

22:34 just to cause havoc. And there's not really, and for all we know they took this guy and they were just maybe removing him from service or taking him out and pretending he is dead I don't know He doesn't look like a typical Taliban guy from Afghanistan, he doesn't wear the black hat his beard is too way too...he doesn't have real big beards like they always do. He doesnt' look evil enough He just doesn't look like a Taliban guy. And he just does, it's just something wrong with the agenda or something wrong with this picture regarding all Taliban activity in Pakistan by the way if you start really looking into it but anyway so this guy writes his story and its long I mean is what gives us his first Twitter read this this is great so your is this isn't very interesting story because

23:19 It is long and it has all kinds of weird, it's more like a philosophy. I mean the way this story is presented as about what happened Obama also sought to reach out to Islamic allies and tone down the US rhetoric language shift that critics have argued revealed weakness in an effort to win more cooperation from countries like Yemen and Pakistan This isn't reporting! Right The whole thing looks like it was planted another planted story. Yeah, yeah and you know this is the kind of stuff you always got to be on the lookout for And this was Gibbs's first post so if we link it in the show notes or go to Gibbs' thing and look at what his first post was besides asking for help and this says selling into watch Sundays... This is his first post

24:08 Gibbs settling in to watch Sunday's shows Sure to hear lots of talk on counter-terror. Hope everyone reads this and then he links to this article from the Associated Press Written by Matt Apuzzo Who I do not know so some I can't find it because you know, it's Anyway, so when Gibb started off that day's show and the first question out of the gate is, you know what can you tell us about this Taliban leader who you captured? The way he answers the question, the arrogance. He starts off like no I'm not gonna get into that! I'm just not gonna get into that! I'm not getting into that! No I'm sorry I'm not getting into that! It's like what?! What are you getting into? Yeah and there's a why-not it's logical question oh it's a matter of homeland security

25:03 I really don't want you everything you need to know is in this article that he pointed out earlier. He should have done it up there on the podium, hey there's a really good article written here why don't you read it? Yeah but then its written and all controlled and he doesn't want to mess it up. Now the guy... he's not the best guy for this job and always sounds like he's congested Well you think he's a coke head Well, I never say was a coke head did I but I know some guys are you they always they're perpetually talking like this because they actually can't breathe through the nose under any circumstances of those septum being separated well dogs just Swollen so the after the Tesla aircraft accident or incident The second most email story was about the wonderful TSA

25:52 the Transportation Security Administration now swabbing passengers hands. Yes and I received a rather interesting note you do show long enough and if you're on track enough, I have this note too i believe from you start to get information from insiders so there's a NOA Agenda producer slash listener who identifies himself as the anonymous photographer He says look I don't want anyone to know who I am. My work is a photographer for me for a major media outlet in the New England region would like to remain an anonymous, so was assigned a story today to speak to the director of the TSA about this hand swabbing because apparently besides the new Naked body scanners they now also have new swabbing machines the ion scan 400 B and

26:49 And I haven't looked into the ownership of the corporation yet, but i will put the link in the show notes. It's basically smithsdetection.com This thing is mobile! it's on a cart so they can wheel around the airport and just come up to you and say hey let me swab your hands for a second. So the guy said why don't you do this on another TSA employee? Here's what funny he says...so they swabbed at once and it came out negative, and then he said oh could you do it again so I can shoot some cutaway shots? And then it came back positive three times for traces of NGC and NGN. I don't know what that is...

27:30 But I guess it's some form of explosives. I don't know, NG would immediately indicate nitroglycerin. Nitroglycerin yeah So they and the guy even washed his hands They cleaned the machine he then they swabbed this hands again came back positive again for NGC NGN and MELH And something else that the anonymous photographer didn't catch but here's the stuff that freaked me out Here's some stats that he has because he did the story. So this is coming from a guy who went to the TSA and got the information directly from them so first of all they can walk around the airport come up to you at any point and say we want to swab your hands, and according to the TSA their lawyers quote looked at it and completely agreed this doesn't violate any civil liberties I think it does

28:17 If you've already passed through the checkpoint, I think that's it. Right? There should be no reason for them to come up to you and start swabbing your hands The machine can detect if you fired a firearm recently But it will also hit on heart medication Of course there is glycerin in that But, here's the scary stuff. The machine also detects traces of cocaine, heroin, PCP, THC, that's weed, methamphetamine, ecstasy, LSD and others! Now of course they're not looking for drugs but this is what's going to happen. They are gonna come up to you... You smoke the dube before you get on the plane which believe me I used to do when i was still smoking it because like yeah nice you fall asleep

29:07 And they'll say, I'm sorry sir you have to come with us if they get a hit for drugs. Now of course they can't arrest you but they can sure harass you Well, you know here's an interesting thing he points out in this note. He says if they hit for drugs They can't use the information to make an arrest they need a warrant or maybe bring by the drug dog right? randomly People have known that if you have a drug dog into the airport and he sits next your bag The drug dog has found something and then they can grab you yeah now What is the logical leap of faith that is necessary to say, well if the drug dog can do that why can't the machine? If it's okay for the drug dog to find drugs in a guy suitcase then why not the machine. Well but its little different if you're flying domestically see if your coming from an international flight into the country then there's smuggling

30:05 and you know there are some very basic rules and you have no rights before you pass through customs. And actually, not just the passport portion but actually all the way through when your bags have been cleared to go out into the free world quote unquote That's a smuggling issue with bringing contraband into the country. But, you know having weed and flying from California to New York? You know there's not too many drug dogs walking around there! It's crazy! Well let's take it just let's skip that part then and just say that because you know I know the TSA has been told not to deal with anything but air safety

30:43 But let's just take it to the next level and be assured that because of the smuggling aspect, and the fact there are drug dogs that roam around when you come in from Europe often. You'll see these little Beagles and these other dogs are actually quite cute walking around sniffing away. They are kind of cute, aren't they? You just want to pet them! Hey good doggie doggie! So looking for bombs... I always ask by the way you can ask the guy with a dog what the dogs for and he'll tell ya there's either a fruit dog looking for illegal fruit being brought in, a bomb dog or drug dog those are three main dogs yeah and by the way the bomb dog does not at all know what drugs are

31:24 At all. No, they can't have dogs intermixed with... Dog is a drug dog or fruit dog because they have to know what the hell's going on with the dog unless they can find some dog that could bark twice. Because I once flew in the Delta Sierra from Amsterdam last time I did it by the way and I had some weed in my pocket And the, and uh... it's my private plane right? And the customs guys were standing right there. They're like okay we just want to have the dog sniff the plane I'm like oh crap! I'm so in jail now and the dog goes through the room going through the plane what is he looking for explosives is like Oh okay

32:04 Explosives, like I'm gonna have explosives on my plane. Idiots! You brought the wrong dog! Hey grab that dog let's go check this guy's plane oh we got the wrong dog so anyway So anyway, so the point is is that if you can have these dogs at the airport for from international flights why wouldn't this swabbing deal actually be transferred and used to find drugs just a way the dogs would be? So in other words, if you're going to bring anything in I would just say to anybody who's out there especially the Californians who are lackadaisical about walking around with dope don't fly into the country from Amsterdam with a pocket full of something. Well no it's not a good idea

32:48 I mean, it's going to be less of a good idea once these machines are in place. Even though the machines are just apparently full of crap according this guy they're wrong. In this case they were wrong 75% of time with false positives This is gonna slow down production And by the way... I flew to LA Thursday night And I'm sorry flying back Monday night, flying back to San Francisco and i had to go through the humiliation tunnel at LAX. And and I was watching thing was going off every other passenger the metal detector...and by the way it went off only on women that happen to be a female TSA agent when I recognized with this like really really white blonde hair she's probably like 50 years old fifty-fifty five

33:29 And she was doing pat-downs, every other passenger and it was only with women the thing went off. It's like you know it's obvious if its going off 50% of the time its not tweaked right If those people aren't carrying anything and then my bag goes through once again I've got a bag full of wires, batteries transmitters MIDI controllers all kinds of stuff and it goes right through not asked to open it but you know just put a bottle water in there watch them all freak out. Your bag is loaded with so much...I mean if anybody's bags should be opened its your bag! Yes it always gets through they're like oh that's fine looks good no problem

34:10 It's not the cocaine thing you know there's been studies that show that something like 99% of all American money in circulation has got traces of cocaine on it exactly so if you're gonna have a little work yeah well here's my plan before I go through the Humiliation tunnel and of course once I'm on there on the other side. I'm going to ensure I go to the bathroom And don't wash my hands That'll fix them Well you won't need, by the way it seems to me you don't need to wash your hands because they wash your hands for you. I just want them to touch my nasty bathroom hands that's all. It'll give me some personal satisfaction while we're on that in Tampa Florida... A meaningless protest i might add! Yeah make me feel better In Tampa Florida now they've uh the TSA or under the guise of the TSA they're now doing checks at Greyhound buses

35:08 Is that because of all the Greyhound buses that have been blowed up? Yeah, well they happen to have someone from immigration with them. How convenient is that as well as so they got drug sniffing dogs They got ice there So you know they're pretending like it's for your safety and this article which is I guess a Reuters article ABC action news They've got some quotes from people Chuck Lawrence says, I feel safe knowing that I can get on the bus and not going to blow up. Said frequent rider Chuck Lawrence. Oh please! Was he always concerned about that apparently? Worried sick that it was gonna get blown up? So of course this is... And they're also there for cash smuggling. It has nothing to do with your security

36:01 This is just to make sure that we can get something legal. The fascist state is what we're talking about here! Yes, of course it is! You are describing a fascist state? It's got nothing to do with security I wish that people knew history better and you know and I wish that their uniforms were more representative of what they actually are because if they just wore brown shirts or if they had little SS insignias then people would understand much better this is exactly what happened in Germany This is exactly what went down this is how it happened And they went into other countries, i.e., states and then they just start shaking everybody down this is a fascist state if history's repeating itself John you're old enough to remember this stuff Yeah! When I was kid... They wore black when they did it We need our elders who have went through the Second World War to step forward and say hey hold on a second we already went through this shit once before

36:57 Wake up people! Nobody's listening to them. Nobody is listening to us either apparently. We do our part, but damn... It's just crazy. Yeah, fascist state. Alright let's see some clips John. It isn't a fascist state it is actually incredibly repressive and the fact that people put up with it but again they've already tested this on the once tough Dutch who used to be you know kick-ass types and the Australians who were you know a prison colony of a bunch of guys who would just as you know that are tough I think we discussed this over dinner um...I have a theory about that

37:36 Because when I moved to the Netherlands one in 1972 and the Dutch were like, you know They were like crazy crazy fuckers man. You know they they were they were free there were Libertines they knew that could smoke dope We had hookers at the time There was a lot of heroin use as well and it was okay And if you are hooked would help ya out we get on get y'all meth then weed You know it was just, it was a free the hippie society. It was a beautiful place but they'd also go out and conquer the world in business and they were kicking ass and doing great things all over the world and expanding this little tiny country! And now you know...and the listeners and producers from Gitmo Nation Lowlands I know they will agree with me and I would love to hear their views on this is

38:23 There is so much frustration. The Dutch have been so suppressed and of course the media... Why? How did this come about? Well, the media has always been state-controlled, the main media up until like the mid 80s and then they got commercial media which was still basically under control I mean Murdoch owns half the radio stations there just to give you an idea None of it is owned by Dutch corporations anymore You know, the television is all RTL. I mean you can trace all...I mean that's just basically chewing gum for the mind but the news reporting is a big joke

39:00 and the Netherlands, where the Bilderberg group came from. It was developed by Prince Bernard of the Netherlands who was an amazing figure in the New World Order he's passed on now but I mean he started a lot of this you can see the frustration of the Dutch they're so hammered down by all these rules in everything you do that when they get to post anonymously anywhere online they go crazy They go off their rocker and they're just yelling and shouting, and they're mean. And they say horrible things... There's these forums that they... you know like... These websites where they talk about politicians The venom that spews out of these people is unlike anything I've ever seen! Unfortunately it's in Dutch so no one in the rest world sees what's going on

39:51 But yeah, these are the people who have a million cameras around them. They've got more wiretaps than any country in the world...in the world! And there's only 17 million people in the country! They've got a huge Muslim integration problem which was set up predetermined they killed the people who tried to stop it assassinated them including filmmaker Theo van Gogh and politician Pim Vertuijm, and they've been told to forget all that. They've got black boxes and GPS's going into their cars. They are the beta testers of the New World Order! And people know it but they don't have no way to express it. That is why we have so many listeners from The Netherlands tuning into this show

40:33 Anyway, end of rant. Sorry for y'all. Yeah I think I should. I'll be visiting Gitmo Nation Lowlands first week of March and i think we should have a meetup maybe I can start something over there You could probably get a meetup yeah well you're probably get picked up at the airport just mentioning it We should have a meet-up. Oh, by the way where does the crotch bomber come from? From the Amsterdam Airport! Oh sorry we can't find any camera footage of him getting on the plane and we can't release that they're in on the game with the Israeli owned security company display clip John Okay well got a bunch you want to go to a real news thing to break up the ice a little bit And now back to Real News

41:21 Got two items you want to do first. I was gonna do a whole series of bad acting, but I'm only gonna do one today It's it's a scene and this is from for your Brits out there So nobody we know that you know you appreciate this This is from Doctor Who just play this is bad acting okay right then I will because you have to go in there didn't You have to go and get stuck oh yes Because that's who you are Wilfred you were always this

42:01 Waiting for me all this time. What is this a monologue? What am I listening to what is this? This is doctor who the famous, you know science fiction story But it's not the original dr Who this is the new guy and I never got into him. This is the new season Yes, and they've got that Billy Piper in there Just leave I'm an old man, Doctor. I've had my time. Well exactly! Look at you... Not remotely important but me? I could do so much more So much more But this is what i get My reward

42:56 Now, the whole idea of Doctor Who was that it was in the 70's. It was kind of a crazy low budget nutty sci-fi show. Yeah! And it was cool that way and then when BBC relaunched it a couple years ago... I mean, it's just like huh? It's overproduced. And they badly acted. Okay, the other clip I want to play is the one that's at the NBA All-Star Game when there was a crazy event for Haiti and I played Alicia Keys It wasn't Alicia Keys by the way it was someone else...I've been corrected on that No no! That was Alicia Keys because this is again Alicia Keys singing in exact same song introduced as Alicia Key

43:36 At the All-Star, don't tell me she's off keys again. She is at the All Star game and then the two announcers are saying gosh is there any way I can meet her? You know this one guy that you had one of their sportscasters which apparently just in love with her but here she is just singing at the all star game again do you tell me she has got a great voice I'm not seeing it When the rain is pouring down And my heart is hurting You will always be around This I know for certain You and me together through the days and nights

44:27 It's not that bad. Hey, hey! Isn't that great? Fantastic she is the best singer I've ever heard No but you know it was like why don't you go stand in the middle of the arena its not easy singing that. Others have done it. I'm not buying it. I think its all that bad It's just not. I am either gonna f- Oops, sorry Didn't mean to do that You might as well play that Really? Which...I don't know what I hit now Oh you hit the uh psychic Uh psychic Yeah Okay Hold on a sec I'm either gonna fly or ruin that family picnic

45:13 Hey! You've ruined our picnic. Psychic! Yeah, this was the episode... This is Family Guy I saw this as well This is the episode where... Is it Chris? Stewie's brother Chris? Yeah, Chris falls in love with a mentally challenged girl at school Well which they consistently call The Down Syndrome Girl In fact there's a whole dance routine Where Stewie and Chris are singing about falling in love with the the wonderful awesome down syndrome girl and it was very funny well you know it was funny because I do like to kind of like the whole r-word thing

45:54 Where comedians actually will try to take away the R-words power, like retard by using it by incessantly using it over and over again which I think actually helps the cause of people who don't like misuse of words. So I understand what they were doing but they took one step too far and I saw this I was like huh? When Chris takes the Down syndrome girl out to dinner and she says you haven't asked me anything about myself And he says oh, yeah So what are your parents do? You know my dad's a doctor or whatever and my mom is a former Governor of the state of Alaska. Yeah, and I'm thinking oh my god This is awesome Fox News is so Fox The company is so smart

46:35 Because on the one hand they create the controversy, which is the way I like to pronounce it about Sarah Palin because of course It's a Sarah Palin reference and then they move over to Fox News. They have Sarah Palin on bitching about it It's hilarious she was with O'Reilly here. I have the clip here of that Here it is continuing now at Fox News analyst Sarah Palins in Arkansas this evening and has some thoughts on this scene from The Family Guy You're gonna be this rude all evening? You haven't asked me anything about myself. Oh, um... Sorry! Um uh... So what do your parents do? That's better My dad is an accountant and my mom is the former governor of Alaska. So Governor, what do you think it's pretty nasty isn't not

47:23 This world is full of cruel cold-hearted people who would do such a thing. Look, I look at Trig and I see perfection. I see a precious little child. You can listen to the whole thing on... it's in the show notes at noagendashow.com you can find it all there but essentially Sarah Palin goes on to say, well you know this is mean people and they should be doing this. And then O'Reilly is harping on Seth MacFarlane who of course writes the show but the whole thing is that Fox created the whole controversy in the first place Yeah I know and what's also funny is that one of the reg...I wouldn't say he's a absolute regular but he's been on the show at least twice now as Rush Limbaugh

48:05 Oh really? He's been on Family Guy twice. He spent a long period of time talking about how Seth is such as genius and he means, you know... I don't know. Anyway so Sarah Palin is using the R word the whole time You have the R word this, the R word that She is? Yeah! People shouldn't be using the R word What? So she's politically correct. You know, I had a bunch of clips that I was going to bring on the show which I'm still trying to edit down because there are so many of them kind of setting up the Sarah Palin juggernaut with all these people who go to her book signings and say oh she is so much different than all other politicians and she isn't like the rest of them She's more like us This is so obvious...I have a clip

48:58 I think the Palin propaganda clip is a good example of how this is going to work. This is on Fox. Gotta leave some stuff on the table Is that right? Is it Arnold's fault? Uh, I was on his transition team and California when we recalled Gray Davis We did it because- Now who was this talking? This is a woman, I can't remember her name but she's on O'Reilly and they're slamming... Here let me just give you the setup of what's going on. They are slamming Schwarzenegger for being an incompetent bonehead. I mean this is Republicans slamming Republicans And how it's not that he's not conservative enough He's sleeping with a Kennedy so that has something to do with it By the way I have a hard time imagining those two having sex somehow It just doesn't feel right

49:40 You know what I mean? I wish i could do the voice. So uh but let me... Oh Maria come here, come here Maria sit on me do a pinwheel Maria! A couple of things to point out one is that the Republican party in California is a piece of crap It's dominated by Southern California religious extremists. And they can never get elected for anything, that is why we have two of the crappiest senators in the country right here because you... The Republicans keep running maniacs that people just don't like. They're not... You know the state is a centrist state It's not a right-wing state or conservative state. It's a centrist state and so the because the Republicans refuse to run as centrist in California, The extreme left wing very liberals liberal types get all the offices and this is always going to continue because they're extreme well we have our you know that the Republicans of California are We have our principles and we're not gonna move an inch from our principles And so they don't get anything So I think the whole thing is like a scam just to make the state ruined

50:42 But anyway, this woman who was supposedly on the transition team I can't remember sorry didn't have her name written down The transition team for Schwarzenegger after they took over and when they ousted Gray Davis. It was just a complete Oh, this is the guy who? Who ate Chandra Levy what the intern No. Who was it? This is not even close! This is the guy that was a lousy governor that we recalled. And who's the guy before... where was the Chandra Levy thing?! That was some congressman. Ah, okay I'm sorry. I don't know what I'm talking about Yeah, I know you don't really live in the state but let's play the... You weren't there then that's for sure. Play this thing and you can see where this is heading why i'm upset Because of spending policies we elected a guy who said he was a Reagan-esque conservative And this what happens apparently when you sleep with Kennedy every night something happens to you That's messed up right there! That's a messed up thing to say

51:44 It's totally, it's bigoted. It's guilt by association and has everything wrong with it I don't think you should use the K word in vain You're agreeing with Leslie, that's largely his fault. It is absolutely but we expected a charismatic individual to push things through what we've seen in California leads the way in this that we and our recall of Gray Davis said to the rest of the nation were tired of politics as usual or tired of the machines We want charismatic individuals to make a difference Arnold Schwarzenegger did whatever other Republicans doing these days He's going along with who is in power and we want something different. At one time his approval was 70% and now as Lissy pointed out it is 3%. Something like that.

52:33 No, you can't get that. That's impossible! He said three or something like that. For some reason they've turned on Schwarzenegger who was a golden boy just like four years ago Like me I'm the golden boy Yeah you're a golden boy Is California moving to the right? Are they going away of Massachusetts When we recalled Gray Davis was kind of the precursor to Massachusetts alright when we recalled him remember this is a state that gave the nation Ronald Reagan and it's also about the way the nation looks at the West. Sarah Palin now represents that independent firebrand dynamic we thought we had in Schwarzenegger. Oh there is, there it is! Sarah Palin represents the West... That we didn't she's further

53:14 out from the machine and that's why the nation is responding to her. Are you telling me Sarah Palin moved to California she could win the Google or Toro race? No I'm saying she's even further west, she'll win the presidency because she's even further west of California. The folks in California moving to the right. We are independent conservatives generally which is also recognized as classical liberals it's the kind of mentality that is even more conservative than people realize. What was the double speak Independent conservatives which are classical liberals. Conservatives generally, which is also recognized as classical liberals It's the kind of mentality that is even more conservative than people realize fiscally while being moderate socially and that is the core of independent conservatives Alright You're pissed at this because? One thing This is just more bogus propaganda That leads to people thinking that Sarah Palin is a viable candidate

54:07 They're going to try to push her and all the stuff I've been seeing, I've been seeing it on C-SPAN. I've been listening to it on Fox. The only good news is of course Sarah has to come on Fox as an analyst and she can't analyze anything So she's, I think people are going to pick up on it. This woman doesn't seem that bright. There is a huge move...I mean there is this Sarah Palin thing going on that I just...I'm sorry and we lost a couple of listeners because you and me or probably more than you because you actually like the woman cause you read her book I didn't say, I like the woman. I said that I read her book and there's a little more depth in people... You can't just dismiss someone just because she says she is functional illiterate or intellectual illiterate. No but people around me have said this but actually the book is not bad it's an okay book about American girl whether its fabricated or not then you can tell people

55:02 I'm not going to read your book. That's ridiculous! No, it's very obvious. I mean if you what's nice about this is now you can actually see how it works the Tea Party has been hijacked It's now the tea party nation and the guys that are in there are you know Glenn Beck? Is pushing all of this whoo? I'm sure the guy was like You know he's a total CIA operative as impossible that he is not on board the program somehow Maybe they've must have a transmitter in his head

55:56 I mean, whenever it really comes down to the brass tacks he's always on the wrong side of the argument. How many people in this Tea Party nation are in the Council on Foreign Relations? Oh, I bet you a tonne of them but when you get Andrew Breitbart standing on stage you've gotta question what's happening! These are egomaniacs You don't want... This is.. It was... I wish that there was enough English history of what happened when LPF This was the Pim Fortuyn's party who was going to win the election in the Netherlands by a landslide. He was the only guy that was making sense and he got assassinated two weeks before the election, The party still wins the election by landslide and they had all these Breitbart type of people in there, captains of industry... And it was a shambles! It was a complete shamble for months

56:49 until they finally got everyone kicked out, you know they weeded it all out and then of course the new world order came back in and they brought order from chaos. But the people who are in this Tea Party nation are idiots! And Sarah Palin, yeah she's being put- you identified this John. I think i should play the jingle actually. You called it! You said they're pushing Sarah Palin as the leader of The Tea Party and she's not even standing in front of the actual tea party people It's The Tea Party Nation which is something completely different 500 bucks a head Is that what they paid?

57:25 Yes, they paid to go to that event where Sarah Palin took $100,000 in claims to be giving it back. Why is she taking the first place if she's gonna give it back? By the way, the book signing clips that I have taken from C-SPAN which are kind of promote... It's hard to say what side they're on But, where Sarah Palin came to this bookstore in Cincinnati. There was like you had to buy a ticket to get into the thing and it was... I don't know that's the whole thing is just and then by the way well I'll get some clips later but I just find the whole thing to be such a rigged deal It's being put and it is being completely pushed. Of course, the fact that so many are hook line and sinkering to this is just astonishing to me when they should be out pounding the pavement to find someone who can really run...and win! Or they should be taking example of Greece which is under-reported but their rioting in the streets there huge demonstrations they're not taking it This is what we should be doing

58:25 Instead of sitting in hotel rooms smoking cigarettes and talking on the internets, we should be... And you in your underwear with your keyboard on your lap. We should be out there protesting and demonstrating John! Yeah that's a waste of time So um The only protest can be at the ballot box and that's what all the rest is just a way to distract you Oh yeah let's go out into the street and carry a sign that says something clever Well ya know what It doesn't do anything It seems to work for the French from time-to-time They still have their different breed. They're completely crazy in there We need some of that crazy we need a can of crazy not the French The only answers to ballot box we can actually change our women should stop shaving their armpits And we should go out and burn some cars and chop some heads off That's what that's why the French are all pissed off because cuz the women have hairy armpits You and this armpit thing I bet you guys it's nasty

59:20 Yeah, brother. All right so I actually did some work well i got some work and we're going to go back to the... I want to play a clip before you go on your way okay because you always brought this up once before and I thought I'd bring it up that there's a big exercise is called Cobra Gold That is coming up that I picked up this little news report. You never heard of this by the way on the mainstream cyber Test no, no cyber things a different story. I got that story too But I got a different version of it but Cobra gold is gonna be you know what? You always said well It's always funny to doing an exercise just outside of Haiti just like a week before there was before there's a false flag attack and

1:00:03 like a fake earthquake from the earthquake machine or 7-7 in London or 9-11 in New York City. Okay, so here's the latest thing going on which is called Cobra Gold but it seems that they do it often but this time its being done in Thailand with some Koreans and some other people involved and it supposed to be like a war exercise when they talk about rescue missions and some other stuff kind of in the news report this came from the Pentagon station reported by an army guy you know that Pentagon News which is obscure to say the least. Welcome to Daily News Update I'm Petty Officer Dustin Diaz Cobra Gold 2010 is an annual joint exercise co-sponsored by the United States and the Kingdom of Thailand The US joins more than 20 other nations in the three week training exercise in Thailand's eastern province of Rayong South Korea is participating for the first time

1:01:04 The exercise focuses on peacekeeping operations, humanitarian assistance and disaster relief. It is the largest exercise of its type in the world involving more than 11000 personnel including 6000 from the US. You know that's interesting because there are 20 000 U.S. personnel in Haiti right now and this is the largest exercise? Yes, the largest exercise anymore petty officer Eric still brings enough of it The thing was that they goes on and on about the war aspects of it But if you listen to the humanitarian and all the rest of at the beginning He doesn't make a lot of sense. It seems to me that they're practicing these Recovery missions or whatever Cobra gold a drug reference isn't that some kind of heroin? I don't know sounds like it should be a drug reference in the chat room would know

1:01:52 So that's interesting. Geopolitically, that's interesting. South Korea is participating but it's off the eastern coast of Thailand and another great place for a tsunami! Oh yeah But I still have the Canary Islands as my mark for the next target for the earthquake mission. I think the Canary Islands are good targets Alright so i'm looking through CSPAN And C-SPAN, which by the way the chairman of C-SPAN, the Chairman and CEO is a Time Warner guy. Now we know that of course that C-SPAN is an initiative from the joint cable companies but you know it's like so basically who owns this? The cable company owned it. Who owned the cable companies well big conglomerates But anyway I'm watching C-SPAN What do we do if you don't have to see SPAN

1:02:51 So they've got this new, it's in beta still. But it works you know you can search by transcripts, you can search by person, search by date, search by show if its a committee hearing etc... so I went back and I got all those clips from our Homeland Security gurus sitting there we had a couple of different clips but on January 27th the House Homeland Security Committee were addressed by Michael Leiter, that's the guy who went off skiing after the crotch bomber his attempt was foiled. Big sister Janet Napolitano can hardly say it and then Patrick Kennedy

1:03:53 whose responsibilities include the consular services which includes visas. And I'm looking for this video and it's no longer available in the C-SPAN archives, which means there is also no transcript available from January 27th. If anyone can find this for me in the C-SPAN archive please let me know because its just gone! I pulled clips from this before And so I was able to go to, what's the site here? The Federal News Service transcript service. because the question came up as to this guy's visa. Now we already played the clip for you where I think it was Kennedy who said, well you know we often let people on... no it wasn't Kennedy it was Leiter so we often let people go because you know the agencies want to follow them and then you will have someone who is under suspicion and keep our eye on him because then we can actually follow all the way to get a big fish. You still with me?

1:04:54 Yeah, I'm trying to keep up. Okay so let me just find the now I've lost my place in the transcript damn it So the point you're trying to make is that something that you've been using for to try to piece together this part of? The story was on C-SPAN It had a video clip and the transcript both are missing now They completely taken down for some unknown reason but you found a backup transcript on this crazy Government site here it is okay Representative Thompson says, okay so all right so he has a visa. So what does he do in the process? Does it revoke the visa? Mr Kennedy interrupts we as I mentioned in my statement Mr Chairman if we unilaterally revoked a visa and there was a case recently up we have a request from a law enforcement agency to not revoke the visa

1:05:47 We came across information, we said this is a dangerous person. We are ready to revoke the visa." We then went to the community and said should we revoke this visa? And one of the members and we'd be glad to give that out in private said please do not revoke this visa! We have eyes on this person, we are following this person who has the visa for the purpose of trying to roll up an entire network not just one person So...and here's another piece Representative McCall says, I mean the cable i just read makes it pretty clear that this man is associated with extremists in Yemen and you didn't revoke his visa. Mr Kennedy says that was sir as his father said he was associated with this and so we then ask the intelligence and law enforcement communities if they'd rather have any other information? I don't want to take too much of your time I'll be glad to visit with you afterwards

1:06:44 So essentially, and it's hard. The transcripts are hard because people speak weirdly and doesn't read back very well but essentially they called so they knew the guy was bad they knew that he was on a list they were following him They say we should revoke his visa And then someone in the intelligence community said no let the guy on the plane Let the guy on the plane And this is like a huge news story. It was on Capitol Hill, it was live on C-SPAN the archives are gone you have to go to some crazy site and find the actual transcript and no one's reporting on this that the intelligence community let the crotch bomber on the plane Yeah How does that work? Apparently No not apparently definitely

1:07:38 And Patrick Kennedy only wants to tell the committee in private which member of the community asked him to let the guy on the plane and not revoke his visa. No one's following up on this, nobody! Have you ever done a Freedom Of Information request John? I know people who have but it takes forever. Yeah that's the problem They won't get anything, they'll just redact everything if this is an ongoing case which I believe it probably is. There's something fishy about the whole thing besides a person filming and the fact that the bomb didn't go off or he even had a bomb on him to begin with... The whole thing is sketchy! And then the FBI reading his rights and that becoming a big scandal for some reason

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1:17:08 And these, and you know this is a pretty good idea right? You give laptops to the kids and these were all through state and federal grants. And the kids can then you know it's great! Kids can use their laptops and they could do the homework. And then one of these kids gets uh...you know the parents get called into school November 11th, plaintiffs were for the first time informed of the above-mentioned capability namely that the school can use the built in webcams to spy on the students. At home? At home! One of the plaintiffs was engaged in improper behavior in his home and cited as evidence... I can only imagine what that means Yeah they showed a photograph from the webcam

1:17:57 Embedded in this kid's laptop issued by the school district. I mean, can it get any crazier? I love this one! Yeah no that dish has got lawsuit written all over it But do you think this will get any real mainstream reporting? It probably will. It is getting a lot of attention because its so outrageous they've gone way too far You have to do, you know the thing is that what only works with this kind of slow growing Nazi or fascism is it has to be in your baby steps.

1:18:32 You know, the kind of slow pace. Yeah this is too fast! They're moving too fast. This is jumping ahead way ahead that's five years from now. It's jumping... yeah you guys are ahead of the program what are you thinking? You bastards! Slow down on that By the way at the Amiibo offices I've got two monitors one that's on an iMac and the other one that's a ViewSonic and there's a high-end ViewSonic they both have cameras on them And I have black tape Oh, over the cameras? Over the camera holes. Really?! Yeah you can check it out. I'm so paranoid! In any situation environment like that i will black tape the camera holes. I do not trust these cameras unlike many of these computers Who do you think is going to be looking at you me

1:19:13 No, I don't know the NSA perhaps. I have no idea All I know is that they're not looking at anything cuz I got black tape and gaffers tape by the way No wonder I had trouble skyping you I Thought your video wasn't working. Yeah there you have it just don't do anything inappropriate kids That's what it's all about in your own especially with a camera pointed at your room in your room But you're right, they jumped the shark. This is coming of course this is the way it's going to go and you know there have been rumors for a long time that Google already has this capability to flip on the webcam of your computer if you have any of the Google services and it wouldn't surprise me

1:19:59 It just really wouldn't surprise me if they could probably flip on the camera disable the little red light or whatever it is in your camera comes I disabled that turn the camera and see what you would see to which will turn on the microphone tuning and listen to what your guys doing and see what he's doing or whatever I don't trust these things. There was a report, I should look it up it was awhile ago that Google announced they had some technology that they could display advertising based upon the ambient noise in the house you know so if they heard kids and they would display uh like diaper uh diaper ads and you know its not hard to do when you think about it no its easy and then you know connected world yeah

1:20:42 Yeah, it's time for a new internet. Internet... the ubernet... UNTERNET! We just need to mesh... It will make it worse. Yeah probably. Things do not improve So I just briefly we need to talk about the European Union because this has now become a great example of what is going to happen here Now, ever since the Lisbon Treaty got signed we now speak of the United States of Europe and all these what used to be known as countries are now known as member states. And of course two-and-a-half years ago I was reading the Lisbon Treaty, I read all of the side notes and protocols and all the things about the European army... basically it was the original

1:21:33 constitution, European Constitution that was voted down by the Dutch and French. And then they ramrodded it through no one got to vote on it. The Brits were guaranteed a referendum on it never happened and now of course there's a couple things that are happening what started as handy little way not to have to exchange your money when going to another country Now your member states are all part of this big organization and we've got this Starfleet command who are basically calling the shots and making the rules. So there's a financial meltdown taking place, and at the center of this is Goldman Sachs There it's just no doubt about it We didn't really talk about on the last show but Greece Of course as we now know its come to light that they have a 13% deficit

1:22:24 and it's supposed to be no more than three. And the reports which you can find all this information in the show notes at NoAgendaShow.com are showing that Goldman Sachs worked on a currency swap with them to essentially keep this deficit off the books, so it is a financial trick which by the way The United Kingdom has also done this with Goldman Sachs And as you'll find out that Italy probably did the same thing with Goldman Sachs. I just want to remind you, Goldman Sachs are the guys we bailed out. Yeah they helped in these... The guy's that we busted out Lehman and Bear Stearns killed them so Goldman Sachs is standalone But now it turns out they're also hedging against all of these countries

1:23:14 So this is exactly what they did with the housing bubble, where there were their own clients. They were saying hey yeah jump on these CDOs this is good stuff mortgage-backed security. This is classic Wall Street gambit! Exactly so they helped all these countries hide their debts and deficits put it off the books meanwhile they're hedging against this sovereign debt. Shorting it up. Yeah shorting it. They're going to clean They're going to clean up and now I wish we were working for Goldman Sachs. Oh, we'd be making more money. We've been making a lot more money even if we were just doing the dishes over there. Secretaries make two million dollars a year. So but now check this out this I love so not you show your Greece right? You're the old world you started The Olympic Games right

1:24:07 You started all this stuff. You were a part of... Established country I mean, Aristotle, you know some Plato. Like dudes who are like at the foundation of civilization and now If Athens does not comply with austerity demands, and I guess that means... what does that mean? Austerity demands. Yeah it means stop spending money and get your act together! Right which of course is impossible to shore that up by March 16th It's impossible to do it anywhere They will lose control over its tax and spend policies and will not be allowed to vote

1:24:47 in the European Union under Article 126.9 of the Lisbon Treaty They will not, they take away their rights to be a part of the EU Is that the same as kicking them out? No! It's like a censure You're not allowed to do it and you're like okay... It's like sit on the punishment bench Stand in the corner with a dunce hat on They will not be allowed to vote It's like, okay. And so what's next? What's next is Spain won't be allowed to vote then Italy and Portugal. Yeah. Pretty soon nobody will be allowed to vote because everybody screws up once in a while except the Germans and the French Exactly! This is the total takeover this is the take over I thought it would happen here first Hitler couldn't do yeah Because he tried it with force

1:25:43 And you have to be much smarter, you need to pacify the people into idiocy. So I hate to say it, I hate to use the R word in vain but we've turned the population into retards keep them watching dumb television and then meanwhile just take everything from them, everything! Including their right to vote It was already moved over to Brussels so now you can't even vote in Brussels This is crazy. The Greeks are standing up, but you're not really seeing that on television of course No they're not going to show anything on television apparently there's riots going on that are underreported I know we have listeners in Greece, I sure hope we do Please! We need information, we need to know what's going on Oh by the way the EU has opened 54 embassies around the world

1:26:35 So I didn't know this. Yeah, you no longer go to the Portuguese embassy you go to the European Union Embassy Oh yeah! Dude they got that Lisbon Treaty signed and bang they were in Let's see, where are the 58 of the 54 embassies in the UK are located in Europe? Armenia, Georgia Macedonia Moldova Norway Serbia Switzerland and Ukraine 12 others are located Asia and Pacific Afghanistan of course Australia China East Timor Fiji Hong Kong India Indonesia What about ours USA There isn't one here yet. Oh, so in other words they're... Wait a minute let me get this straight

1:27:19 They have an open one here so they can keep us believing that Spain has its own embassy, which it does. France has its own embassy which it does the UK has an embassy and a council that they have one in San Francisco but in fact these things are just shams for what's really going to be...they're all gonna eventually shut down in favor of an EU Embassy? Essentially these ones are nothing more than places to get visas or to get tourist information there actually tourists out there at the Tourist Department in the guise of an embassy Correct. That's absolutely correct Well, that's gonna be very disappointing for the Americans who like to be ambassadors in France or England or I wonder what they're gonna do if there's you can have one EU ambassador Or if that well You know that would make sense you got a parrot down? I mean they gotta put it over time though You just can't jump into that because it would freak the USA out

1:28:10 Well, I think... It would freak us out. ...I think they're moving really fast! What i believe is happening John is that there's a lot of noise out there and of course they can't control the internet They are desperately trying to That's the thing they have to move slow on And their gaining ground no doubt about it France now just passed laws that can completely shut you down For any reason whatsoever they can basically make it illegal for you to have an internet connection Yeah, I'd use accuse you three times of anything intellectual property or whatever if anything and then you're gone So they've got to move swiftly because these guys, I think that what's happened and it's a good thing because we still stand a fighting chance is that this has been going on for a long time. This is generations of evil have been setting this up and this generation saying hey man like 50 years old I want to benefit from the state down we've been working on let's move along but I think that's a mistake strategic mistake because agreed

1:29:10 and people won't stand for it. I don't know what we're going to do about it, but people are not going to take it. Maybe we can be saved by Goldman Sachs! You never know... No, I'm telling you who's gonna save us. It is the no agenda militia It is as they self-proclaim no agenda militia. It is the sysadmins, it is the Unix admins, it is the network admins these are people that will keep our shows on the air our websites running create proxies and route around if necessary we'll mesh all of our Wi-Fi networks there are the ones that are going to save it That's because these people have

1:29:51 Civility, skills yeah but civility and integrity. These are the people you can't just buy guys like that. You just can't cuz they you know how admins have so much power when it comes to passwords and being able to get into anything and it's like a if you ever done this When you sit down next to an admin, and he sets up an account for you And he says okay enter your password What does the admin always do? Just even though he could find your password break into your account He always turns his head looks away so that you know he is not looking at you and to your password because it's like a vow of silence. It's a vow of secrecy, and they mean it! Of course there are always some bad apples but in general these guys mean it and they will be our saviors So hug your sysadmin today give him a big fat tongue kiss He deserves it

1:30:46 Know about the tongue kiss, but this is these guys are yeah well You know you can still just shut down the whole thing You can do have the same guys on the evil side of evil that can work to system They could you know do all kinds of filtering? I mean you get a little bit our guys against their guys and we've got more with integrity Public look at what the public buys into they're not listening to this show. They're listening to fog eyes box and they're listening to the slow brainwashing that goes on there. And I mean, they're listening to watching the All-Star game, they're watching football or they're watching downhill skiing or they were listening to the crappy news reports that they get. That's a majority of people... Well yeah but hold on a second! But let me tell you it's stuff like this Russian hacker did

1:31:31 The other day that is going to get people's attention and this is the things they need to do because we do have To start some illegal action in Moscow a hacker broke into the traffic sign system and played a two-minute porn video What did that accomplish? It gets people's attention. It shows that we can do it and now the next thing, if we need to start creating great video short form that we can give to the hackers so they could put it up on screens all across Gitmo Nation I'm trying to get some people to put some stickers up at the toll booth. These are mine! It's your limited thinking, this is the whole point. Stickers are no good we need to have NoAgendaShow.com beaming across all traffic signs state-to-state worldwide This is what I want How long do you think... how long would... It won't happen John. I'm telling because we could just claim like we don't know what's going on it's like I don't know We just got crazy fans

1:32:34 Yeah, well we could do that when we have some real crazy fans. I'll tell you what... Hackers of the world! Hackers of the world, I will share all my hookers and blow with you if you put noagendashow.com onto a traffic sign All my hookers and blow, all of it You know what? You can have my hookers first and snort my blow first I will... Well, I think noagendershow.com on a traffic sign would get some attention It would be a hoot We'd double our audience pretty quickly as the news organization asks us how did that happen? It would be beautiful

1:33:12 That's that's all I'm asking for. We were just joking about it by the way, but somebody decided to take us seriously It's kind of a fun show if you listen to The No Agenda Show It's a fun show to listen to but we joke around about stuff like this and we suggested it casually on the air And so somebody decided to do it. You know? I actually don't approve! I am against it But they did it anyway because they thought it was a great idea on their own, because people think for themselves. People that listen to our show... Exactly! That's my little...that's my spiel when the KRON news team comes over to the house. That's what I'm gonna say too. I'm going to say that's what she said. I'm just saying. I am not saying you should do anything illegal but there is hookers and blow at The Watch Tower for ya

1:33:58 I can just see Mickey now and went, oh shit. I better make some calls. You gotta get some of the hookers lined up. Gotta get the hookers in. There's a few down in LA by the way and they're pretty good looking Yeah! Dude, I'm telling you we'll have a par-tay! Par-TAY! That will be the way to go Anyway that my rant on sysadmins Tongue kiss your sysadmin today He or she deserves it So we got a bunch of things that we're obviously not going to get to. One, I want to get back to the Pot Wars Oh, I had a heroin war thing. Well the pot wars are one thing and another thing there's a Corvette lady was griping on one of the comment posts that we never discussed the Supreme Court decision about the corporation being able to throw money at us. We discussed it many times! Well we did that's what i was going to say dad but the other thing is I was arguing with my wife about this

1:34:58 She was going on and on about how well it's a bad thing. I said, do you think let's say the corporations are given free reign to spend as much money they want as they want in politics? Do you think anything is going to change? Do you think they haven't already bypassed this system? This just makes it a little easier for them there's not gonna be any difference so that the argument is moot They already spend as much money as they want. They just do it in funny ways. Yeah, that's true there's the pot there's the couple A couple other things. They're just making it easier, right? What was already happening... There's also an interesting story that is floating around about Roger Ebert keeps getting a takedown notice poor Rogers like you know in bad shape physically and he did this tribute to Gene Siskel and Disney keeps taking it down wherever it gets posted because I guess its got some sort of Disney picture or Disney content or whatever now it's a big scandal And the guys want to put this thought out there who was the largest shareholder of Disney that could put a stop to this instantly

1:35:57 The largest jobs. Oh, that's right Is he the largest shareholder is that true? We see the larger shareholder now It's the largest shareholder of Disney He has all the power at Disney he can put a stop to this with one phone call So people should jump on him hmm I didn't even think that's because of the Pixar acquisition yeah Save the company basically Wow And then we still have a bunch of clips, by the way. So I'm watching this Obama news conference yesterday and he's talking about nothing and then Republicans respond in one quick... Oh one of those! He was talking about nothing. But Biden is standing next to him Can somebody tell me what happened here? Biden looks like he had a hole drilled into his forehead No that was Ash Wednesday Hello It was Ash Wednesday?! Yeah that's... I thought it was Easter

1:36:57 No, everyone in San Francisco... I saw lots of people out of San Francisco walking around with ash on their head yesterday. Isn't Ash Wednesday? The Wednesday before Easter? What do i look like a priest?! I don't know the smudge Yeah, it's a big smudge. I used to be a Catholic kid Well didn't you have a smudge on your head? Oh yeah everybody walked around with the smudge It felt kind of like an Indian What is the genesis of that smudge? You know I knew and I don't remember And it was just like a big deal to walk around in shabby suits I think its kinda a meaningless symbolism Ash Wednesday. It was Ash Wednesday, I'm pretty sure... Well i was wondering because it looked to me like he had a really dopey look on his head. I can't believe you said that! I can't believe of all people that you would not catch that as being Ash Wednesday? Well I thought about it but when thinking the date I don't remember Ash Wednesday. It's Lent. First thing I thought about. It's Lent. That's- First thing I thought about. I don't remember an Ash Wednesday in my life being in February

1:38:04 Well, it's six weeks to Easter right? Is that what it is? I'm just reading the chat room. Whatever the case was all I know he looked like he was out of it and had a hole drilled in his brain so... Well that could have been file footage! He was out of it and had a hole drilled into his head. Great! That really helps the credibility, John. Excellent. Just saying... You can take that to the bank. Thanks. It really helps. It helps our donations. DeBorahEck.org slash NA. You can berate me in the comment

1:38:43 Yeah, it's fun. So one of the things we've got here is clip number two clip and in a part That's clipped to since we're getting to the end of this show I want to play a part of this and but I would like you to place at the end Of the show because way too long to play as a whole clip Apparently this was on Rosie radio. This is going all over the net oh You know okay? We'll put that yeah It's good is at the end of the show with with what's-her-face Garofalo Yeah, and it is hilarious. And of course you if you read about it from their left in the right to right where he said this woman Is a lunatic but yeah we at least have to play the beginning of it where she talks about dead reckoning What's the what's the name of the clip? STE 28 Oh you want me to play the beginning of that clip now? Yeah Okay

1:39:32 So people can get a feeling for it, so they get to hear the whole thing later. She's anti-intellectual I have no idea if she is book smart or not but its clear to me that she is anti intellectual She is not a particularly compassionate person Sure she could be a little bit passive Right from the view Who was hot by the way? She's pretty Oh she smoking! Smoking... She's good looking woman The person reminds her of herself What is this on by the way Is this SiriusXM It's either Sirius XM or it just streamed over the internet off of Rosie's site. Her ridiculous take on religion, which is not about being inclusive and not about

1:40:14 giving of oneself. You know, she prefers the punishing God and the... Right not a very pious Christ-like... No no no that's because she is just a very limited person She has got a lot of limitations as most people have that mindset do It's a mindset that unfortunately I don't know if it is nature or nurture or both Yeah I don't know if you are born that way or made that way Or when it happens, when that switch is flipped on maybe in adolescence or something happens to you. I don't know what makes one a Rush Limbaugh fan? How do you get there? What brought him here? And how is it that he's able to be a junkie literally and sort of still have reverence respect and be heralded as the leader of these... Well look who he was talking too! This is so unbelievable

1:41:03 The hate that I hear in these women's voices. Oh, it's unbelievable. I agree. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's one thing Groffalo in particular is seething yeah She's she heard the smoke coming out of her ears And they do say one thing in this clip that I found interesting and I'd like to have somebody confirm or unconfirm it They he says this what about Rosie makes the sorry no go ahead Rosie makes the claim that Hasselbeck, before each show when Rosie was a host had an operative from the Republican Party come into her dressing room and brief her for half hour before she'd come out.

1:41:46 That must be near the end of the clip because I watch no that's actually probably gonna come up before they get to the dead reckoning Okay, long flip we're going to just play to the once you get to the beginning of the dead reckoning page is what there's one line in There and then you can stop it and run it at the end of this Dead reckoning thing by the way is the funniest ever because as an aviator as an airman Of course I know what dead reckoning is and she starts off by saying, dead reckoning is a term used in nautical law. Like okay... Maritime law! Yeah that's what I checked out. I like okay yeah maritime law. I couldn't stop laughing when I heard that. Alright look I hope she says this thing about the Hasselbeck briefing but you'd think those are the kind of people who if it was a junkie right but because he buys the Oxycontin from a doctor? Sure but there it's very elastic isn't it yeah so his double standard right comes to right wingers

1:42:32 whatever, whatever works for them works. You've heard of a term called dead reckoning? It's not in there yeah you're right let's listen to that first beginning I want to hear the dead reckoning it's a navigational term used in maritime law. Works! Yeah you've heard of a term called dead reckoning? It's a navigational term usually used in maritime law You can hear the rest of this at the end of the show, but I want to mention something. She says that dead reckoning is when you're lost and can't find your way around. That's so not true! It's not true? Let me...I have a better story than then you're going to come up with it right away listen to this.

1:43:15 In a car I used to own an eTac was predates the GPS system. It was done by An inventor Nolan Bushnell's company and it was a dead reckoning computer in the car that he was used for navigation This thing was oftentimes more on the money than they did in their early GPS things that were off of block sure dead reckoning once you have a fix and you know where you are, then you basically set your course and that's dead reckoning. It's that simple! You just need one fix which can do with a sextant But you know, you can basically hit it with a compass and then there's a couple of things that you've got to do to adjust for the curvature of the earth etc. but you can dead reckon and pretty much wind up where you want to be You're trained as an aviator to be able to do that Yeah! And this e-tech by the way in the car... We're talking about using it to go garage sales into Berkeley Hills which is a mess of winding roads

1:44:16 It would nail it. Yeah, so she's just full of crap this woman You know I have a solution for women like this right? I told you in the car yesterday What would fix her both of them guys do please okay? I won't mention it But I have a fix for that yeah Just come to uncle Adams house all I'll fix up you you'll have no more hate I know, do we have any more things? I mean, I got some Liz Cheney clips by the way. We don't do them on this show but on Sunday I want to mention that people think Liz Cheney is a setup for something and I'm not sure what it is She's getting way too much press she's getting on the show so much she's extremely smart and quick-witted She makes Sarah Palin look...I mean there are differences between her and Sarah Palin in terms of their

1:45:03 Interesting let's do that. I do have a couple things. I'd like to hit before the end of the show, but I'd like to hear your Liz chain now Liz Cheney is There I got two Liz Cheney clips see the daughter or the wife of Dick Cheney She's the daughter of dick. She's a lesbian daughter. Why do you have to use the L word John? It's necessary clue that you know it's okay. It's fine to be a lesbian and I got nothing about it. She talks about the crotch bomber here with a couple of interesting points and then oh, I just thought the first clip is Liz Cheney on The New York Times And this is a piece of disinformation. I considered either disinformation or she doesn't understand what's going on With The New York Times which is an outlet really It's kind of a mouthpiece for the CIA and everybody knows it

1:45:49 I'm Liz Cheney, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State and daughter of Vice President Cheney. Liz nice to see you and it's sort of as i listen to the big news tonight that we might have gotten the number two in Taliban at least its been reported number 2 and I watched the two dueling I think to myself, how much does the media try to create these duels between two men who obviously care about their country and how much is legitimate news gathering? Well, I think that clearly the whole dueling concept is something that the media helps to feed. Vice President Cheney was going to be out immediately rushed to put Vice President Biden out. But these are really important issues and issues where the stakes are very high for the nation I think that you know this news that we've just heard from Afghanistan is good news if it's true, um I think it's very good news obviously. I think it's troubling that The New York Times broke the story

1:46:44 always suspicious. The New York Times does not have a good record in terms of being responsible about keeping information secret that should be kept secret, that comes into their possession but it is good news. It reminds us once again though that we are at war with an enemy determined to kill us." As I understand the reason the New York Times finally did go public with this because its all over the all over pakistan and know about this now you know we would be because your grappling with some of the last to notice that always got a reason why i don't have any idea what he wrote by tomorrow but uh... right now um... in terms of goodness it's almost over so unlike your theory john and as we know its complete is very easy for the elites through uh... through their wall street financial connections to get anyone into the presidency take for example george bush who was son of

1:47:32 of the evil George Bush, the other evil George Bush. They got him in so why wouldn't they take Liz Cheney? She's perfect! She looks pretty she is very well spoken she is very smart she has all the talking points down and she's hammering against her dad's enemies You know, if you re-listen to this clip she has a lot of interesting subtle propagandistic techniques that she likes to throw in. She just throws it out into the blue near the end about how they captured the guy and she says it reminds us why we are at war. How does this remind us that they got some guy in the middle of nowhere Pakistan and kill him or grab him? This doesn't remind us of anything but she throws that in so as a meme, reminds us why were at war with who? With the Pakistan Taliban?! It just hit me! We're gonna see 2012 presidential race between Sarah Palin and Liz Cheney

1:48:36 It's gonna be a smoking hot throwdown. And we'll all have our hands in our pants going, I don't care which one wins! They're both hot and I kinda like the lesbian better maybe she got some hot video This is how stupid we are. I'm telling you We gotta throw down Cat Fight Hot Liz with Hot Sarah Well, Liz is doing a lot. She's getting on a lot of committees and she's doing stuff to give herself some credibility to do something like that but let's play the second clip which is Liz Cheney on the crotch bomber. that Al-Qaeda in Yemen was operational and she was surprised that al Qaeda would send individuals to attack us. I mean those are two statements that you would frankly know if you were just reading the newspaper not to be surprised by those things, I think there's a real question of competence here. The president may not be well served but

1:49:37 At the end of the day, he's the president and has been for over a year now. He hasn't held anybody accountable for what happened on Christmas Day It is his responsibility to do that. So she is saying fire Napolitano! Yeah, well they're going after Brennan and Napolitano both. If you start listening to Fox, just the Brennan thing is the one that still kind of baffles me because what did he do? Hey I have disappointing news from the chat room John. Apparently Liz is not the lesbian but Mary is the lesbian. Oh okay. Liz has five kids. Damn! Well ya know just looking at her... She has kinda that Marissa Meyer from Google look about her

1:50:20 Okay, you're right. Yeah no Mary Mary yeah what am I thinking? Yeah really see you invoke the L word unnecessarily you got me all excited Liz lesbian lesbian lesbian By the end of the campaign she'll be a lesbian too don't worry about it We'll fix that we'll fix that in there in the talking points okay So she's not a lesbian but she's a fast-talking Cheney and And she's being primed for something. There is a big future ahead for her. Yes there is, and I think she needs some senatorship or something in the interim Could she get something real quick? In this next election could be up for something? Can we jam her into somewhere? It would be too late unless they can get her to Indiana So that she can run at a buys seat...I don't think so. I do not think they will rush the job on her that much

1:51:07 She's showing up as a spokesperson for all kinds of stuff. She's all over the place That's right. You wouldn't be a lesbian because the Republicans would never elect one, but I mean like when that's open There's so many things I could say right now, but let's not There's a couple things I just want to hit before we before we sign off and The French are now providing aid to Haiti, 230 million euros. That's reasonable. Announced by Monsieur Sarkozy Of course they've had the Haitians under their thumb for decades as is

1:51:57 They still had a... were they still paying off debts to France? Haiti, I think so right. I don't know. Anyway just another example of... The shysters show up and take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity. Yeah Then we have... We kind of lost... Maybe I should play the jingle here for a second because we were off topic for a bit but there are couple news stories in the category. Remember Ukraine? Oh yeah, the crazy outbreak or whatever it was. Well yeah it was they had the black lung epidemic so the numbers are in, the science is in over 1,000 people have died in Ukraine from a black lung epidemic 250 thousand hospitalized of course this wasn't apparently not this swine flu but I'm sounds that has Baxter all written all over it Baxter International maybe that was just the testing ground

1:53:02 but those are pretty big numbers. And also from France, and this I guess comes through a report from the World Health Organization because of course there's an expected second wave coming... No it's third! Third wave isn't it? Yeah third wave You know what why don't we just put the H1N1 vaccine in the seasonal vaccine just mix them all up Just put them together into one So it won't even be a separate shot now if you go for the regular flu shot. Yeah, I'm baffled by them... You know what? Yeah. Baffled by what? Why they didn't do that in the first place! Well baby steps right?! Baby steps little steps so you uh- I'm so disappointed that Liz Cheney's not the lesbian. You're still bummed out all right and then another piece of the puzzle

1:54:01 Wow, this is a great article. It's from the LA Times Immigrants from an obscure corner of Mexico are changing heroin use in many parts of America Now I just have to reiterate that we are pretty certain that the whole war in Afghanistan A large portion of it at least is to secure the poppy fields To run the drugs into the West into the United States and which partially funds Wall Street. The United Nations had their own internal report that says drug money helped with the bailout of Wall Street

1:54:39 I should put that link in the show notes again just so you can re-read it. And while you're at it, might as well play the clip on Afghanistan Report which just calmly talks about the poppy fields as though its part of a news story. In the streets troops found what one Marine described as death at every corner. Booby traps and IEDs were detonated throughout the day while thousands of 80 thousand civilians who lived in the area left ahead of the offensive many Many others remained to tend poppy crops or their homes, or found it too dangerous to leave after the Taliban mined the roads out of town. One poppy farmer wondered out loud when the fighting would end and a young villager said that troops come to fight and then leave.

1:55:23 So, yeah. Oh yeah! It's just known it's like we don't even make a big deal about it anymore. It's the poppy fields man what do you think we're there for? so anyway... I think they are being flown down to Mexico because now this report says farm boys from a tiny county that once depended on oh you'll love this sugar cane of course we know that there is a crisis in sugar I even have a report in the show notes that says sugar production is down 63%. Wow. Yeah, so these farm boys they got no more sugar cane to peddle So they have according to the LA Times perfected an ingenious business model for selling a semi-processed form of Mexican heroin known as John Black Tar

1:56:10 Using convenient delivery by car and aggressive marketing, I love this. They have moved into cities and small towns across the United States often creating demand for heroin where there was little or none in many of those places authorities report increases in overdoses and deaths yes of course so it's the Xalisco that's the name of the county with an x Salisco have brought an audacious entrepreneurial spirit to the heroin trade. Their success stems from both their product, which is cheaper and more potent than Colombian heroin, and their business model which places a premium on customer convenience and satisfaction." Wow! Sounds like Nordstrom's. Yeah... Nordstrom's

1:56:59 They've got like frequent flyer cards. Users need not venture into dangerous neighborhoods for their fix, instead they phone in their orders and drivers take the drugs to them. Crew bosses sometimes call users after a delivery to check on quality of service. They encourage users to bring in new customers rewarding them with free heroin if they do. And we're talking like 25 bucks a pop for black tar. So the article says it's almost like Walmart. We're going to keep our prices cheap and grow from there, it works! Rolling back prices on... I love it so so I'd say the whole distribution network is in place you know we've got the sugar out of there heaven forbid people use that when they can use a good chemical yeah yeah aspartame which has been rebranded so that's good actually I have that if you're interested John in the show notes

1:57:56 Here it is sugar output from imported raws down 63% same period last year from You know if you're gonna try, you know the problem isn't with the sugar. Is that these even in Mexico? I mean Mexican coke Has real sugar in it most of this stuff in Europe has real sugar in it so to get into those markets Yeah, you know you have two with corn syrup and and the other crap you have to kill sugar Well, they're doing a good job. So 60% is a lot? Yeah! Well I told you this isn't... and part of it is weather of course. And I'm sure Monsanto has something to do with it someone spraying something or just like... and nice little benefit as all these Mexican farm boys they gotta make a living somehow so hey what's that big American

1:58:52 military plane doing? Oh, they're offloading poppies. Oh! Or do you think that they do the production in Afghanistan as well?" No, they probably think you have been Mexico where you can grow sugarcane and poppies would probably grow great next to each other. But I mean do they? They're harvested in Afghanistan and then they're brought over to Mexico and processed there. No, I think they are growing it in Mexico. Really? That would be my guess Oh wow! Well what are we going to do over in Afghanistan let's get out of there then All that goes to Europe We don't get any of that stuff Eww...that's the European tar Yeah Eurotar Oh my goodness

1:59:30 There's a... somebody sent me an Italian version of We Are The World, which even though it was from 2006 I just wanted to play a little bit of it. It's from a political satire show If featuring comes time featuring Sarkozy and Bush we need a real change Have you seen this no Wait until the refrain That's bush we try to make better world for me I

2:00:10 We fucked the world, we fucked the children. We fucked the world, the forest and the sea, so let us do it. We fucked the world. What a bunch of cynics out there! I love it, well in 2006 you could still do that and then to show you how infantile the world has become There was a bridge in Yorkshire in Gitmo Nation East think its Yorkshire and they... The bridge was called what would I don't want to mess up the joke here hold on a second

2:01:03 Well, this is poorly produced on my part. I'm sorry anyway so there was this bridge that was renamed Oh, it was the tittle cot bridge and And the residents are outraged because they want it Change back to its original name and they don't feel that history should be changed. Meanwhile, the government is screwing them killing their children by sending them to Afghanistan And all people can be worried about is changing the plaque of an original name of this bridge which was Ticklecock And they want to change it to what? No, that's the original name. So why did they change it in the first place? Because it was politically incorrect for it to be Ticklecock. They've been using that name forever! It has been Tittlecocked. Oh and they want to change it to Tittlecock?! The original name is Tittlecock. Yeah well there wasn't anything wrong with that. Just a crazy name from England. They have tons of stuff like that over there I'm cutting this out of the show

2:02:06 This will not be in the show. And well you should! Alright, kind of a dead end there... Yeah that was no good let's bring in some lesbians that always spices up the show Well I do have the one last clip which is the Van Susteren competence rant and which again I think it's Liz Cheney but But in this particular clip, they name all the people that they're out to get fired as though you know I mean there's something you know. I don't if it was part of CIA war or what but the names keep cropping up over and over and over as though they were like the worst people in the world. Which clip is this? It says Van Susteren Competence Rent. I do not think I have that one No its at the bottom. Just right under psychic.

2:02:58 Really? I don't think so. Hold on It wouldn't make sense because it said that you were sent to you, I've got the uh your... Oh! I see what happened Okay yeah i can play from here Alright here we go Is who's giving him this information who is or whose not giving him the right information I think if you look at the team, Greta over the last six or nine months. Secretary Napolitano, Director Blair, you've got Eric Holder and then you've got John Brennan it is clear that they have not been working together as a team there have been instances of incompetence and the president needs to exert his leadership to make sure he's competent

2:03:36 Right, so they're after him. Yeah, they're really after him. That wasn't obviously Liz Cheney... No Although it could have been But that was the laundry list of the people they're after, they're out to get. The Republicans are out there for some reason I don't know if it's what the deal is Well this could be part of a CIA war It could be because specifically Brennan who was a CIA guy is still being targeted over and over again What? I don't know. And then this whole thing about Liz Cheney coming out and saying, I don't know why he hasn't fired somebody over the crotch bomber. Well who's to fire it wasn't anybody's fault. Yeah maybe was a guy was let through in Amsterdam we had nothing to do with that. And his visa was not revoked and that video is missing from the archives because one of the community someone in the community said let him go Do not revoke his visa

2:04:33 So there's a... that stinks. It really, really stinks. The whole thing stinks and this attack is something fishy about the whole thing and yeah I think people should be held accountable and fired for certain things like brownie you know in the ninth Lord 9th Ward New Orleans and all these instances where the TSA has screwed up but nobody ever gets fired But this particular instance, I'm not seeing where anybody should be getting fired and why they keep targeting the same people over and over again. Over the crotch bomber it just seems to me they're out to get somebody. Well you know what? The good news is John we have three days to figure it out

2:05:12 Yeah, well we won't figure it out in three days. But we're gonna play the Garofalo thing here at the end Yes And I think people will enjoy that and there is one other meme I wanted to mention which is a very bad one Which I'm very worried about I think Glenn Beck is propagating this That someone from the extreme...I saw him last night As I was trying to fall asleep as someone from the extreme right a tea partier in the extreme coalition as he puts it, might attempt an assassination on the president. I don't like that, but what you just said reminds me of what O'Reilly... in fact there was a clip I was almost going to bring where O'Reilly publicly said that he gave some number like 10-20% of the Tea Party movement are loonies. They're loons! He likes to use the word loon and so now there's a meme going around that they're trying to marginalize probably the original Tea Party people as crazies. Yep exactly. To bring Sarah Palin up? They got new tea party nations different

2:06:14 Yeah, there's something going on. It's not good Something bad is gonna happen or at least you're gonna have a bad impression there This is all very this is a scheme under underway that is it looks like it's very well Choreographed and I'm not absolutely sure what they're up to an add to that that some crazy guy broke through Biden security At the Olympic Games in Vancouver You know You know, it's a setup. It really feels like a set up that there are you know that maybe there will be an attempt on the president's life they're gonna blame the original the loony teabaggers and then push Sarah Palin forward oh my gosh Oh! Oh my gosh John its unfolding before our very eyes Yeah I can see it And somehow Brannon has got to go. What does he have to do with it? Wow

2:07:04 Alright, so we'll play the rest of the dead reckoning clip of Garofalo and Rosie O'Donnell. Just to piss you off a little more but remember You need to tongue kiss your sysadmin today he or she deserves it they will truly save us from all evil at the end of the day Coming to you from the 13th floor of the Marriott Hotel in downtown San Francisco, Gitmo Nation West San Francisco in the Republic of California. I'm Adam Curry and The more mature of the two living here in Northern Silicon Valley Wishing you a happy Thursday and Friday and Saturday And don't forget to give us some love at no agenda stream calm. I'm John C Dvorak

2:07:51 And we'll talk again on Sunday for early service. Remember, I'll still be younger than John right here on NOAAgenda And what it is, is when you decide to figure out where you are going based on where you are right now and where you've been rather than using navigational tools. Sometimes its used when people don't have access to navigational tools or they do not use the stars and what happens is they tend to get lost because they're frequently going from

2:08:28 a false premise, they're already lost. And they're under the impression that they are somewhere I don't know if I'm articulating this correctly dead reckoning but if you go from a false premise which a lot of conservatism does and then you move on from there. You're going to continue to stack falsehoods, and in a lot at sea when people get lost because they use dead reckoning they are making assumptions about where they are or where they've been because they don't have navigational tools at the ready And then they keep going wrong Does that make sense? Yes I understand. And I feel like people like Elizabeth Hasselbeck and a lot of right-wingers

2:09:09 dead reckoning is the problem. The point of origin is false. And they also get the points of origin delivered in daily talking points, the Republican talking points like she would get them and then she would go over them with Bill Getty for a half hour before the show Right. And then she would come out with her dittos and her little, you know, faxes of all the points that they were trying to make that again were based on what? Where they'd been or where they were going Or just a falsehood Just a false premise and it stacks up from there but here's another thing with the type of mindset like I keep saying right winger i don't know what else is to call A person that lacks empathy, a person that's... Elitist. Yeah elitist latte drinker yeah the uh those nonsense that is so embarrassing when people say stuff like that accuse Obama of being a country club elitists you know Karl Rove Frank Luntz the guy who comes up with the talking points at these meetings Grover Norquist

2:10:03 They have no shame, you can't embarrass them. They have no problem and they know that who they're lying to the base if you will it need not be given facts need not be a fair-minded or open minded anything and when you talk that way people the way Rush talks to people where he lies to people You can't have respect for him! You couldn't possibly respect who's listening to you if you lied to them that they do. They use these people as a blunt instrument Do you think that they believe it? Rush or Glenn Beck, are those people? It depends sometimes like when you meet Sean Hannity and you think oh I think he doesn't know he's lying Some people like the Fox & Friends morning douchebags The Fox & Friends... Real

2:10:47 really limited you can just see it but when you go on the show i don't make that mistake don't do that but um... now i want to i will do it again but there brian kill me they'd just you get the sense they don't know their line yeah uh... and they don't care about venues yet great-great events a string breaking in people they do know they're lying well i saw greta was at uh... i was in washington uh... lobbying for foster care reform with senator from Louisiana and she wanted to do an interview. And I said to her, what the hell happened to you? Weren't you working for the enemy? She wanted to work! What's the deal Greta? You're working for him?! Yeah... You gotta serve somebody look who your serving! Well she was like well CNN people were really mean to me they fired my whole staff blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. But still at the end of the day

2:11:32 Who are you getting your paycheck from? I don't know. I've asked that question of other people who work at Fox 2, even in very more technical capacities and stuff like that... You gotta work! There are people they got to work but to work there it's a tough pill to swallow