Psyop Season

00:00 They're gonna reinvent the flat tire. Big as an SUV and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all saying the same thing Shoot down the drones! I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! You know it's that time of year again John it comes at least once a year is that time again

00:43 It is PSYOP season. Let's let everybody go crazy over everything! It's great. You know, there is something about it that makes you buy more stuff at the store for Christmas. It must! Well we better get going. Oh it has to because everyone thinks this is the end of days. The end times are near. Season of reveal go buy stuff. Oh man...it's so good. I'm just sitting here smiling doing prep in the morning Well, I do have a bonus clip to play which gets us off to the right start. Okay yes the bonus clip came in and it came incomplete and here we go In focus now Republican Congressman Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey member of the House Judiciary Committee on The Hill right now How do you address this at this point?

01:36 Well, here's the real deal Harris. You know I'm also on the transportation committee on the aviation subcommittee and i've gotten to know people And from very high sources Very qualified sources. I'm a really high source man Uh very responsible sources. I'm going to tell you the real deal Iran launched a mothership probably about eight months ago that contains these drones. That mothership is off, I'm going to tell you the deal it's off the east coast of the United States of America They've launched drones. Everything that we can see or hear, and again these are from high sources I don't say this lightly... No doubt! There was a probability it could have been our own government We know it's not our own government because they would have let us know It could have been some really glorified hotline

02:24 or hobbyists that were doing something unbelievable, they don't have the technology. But let's pretend that's possible. The third possibility was somebody in adversarial country doing this. Know that Iran made a deal with China to purchase drones, motherships and technology in order to go forward. The sources I have are good, they can't reveal who because they are speaking to me in confidentiality. These drones should be shot down, whether it was some crazy hobbyist that we can't imagine or whether it is Iran and I think very possibly could be they should be shot down. We are not getting the full deal and the military is on alert with this

03:07 Look, you've given us some pretty dire information just here and I want to make sure that our viewers are digesting this. Iran has the capability to pull up along our eastern seaboard and launch drones the size of an SUV into the skies of several states, particularly New Jersey where we know the incoming president has a large home. Also in the same county or nearby were some of these drones in New Jersey have been seen." Oh man! Very high sources? They're high as a kite these sources I tell you This guy is something else

03:46 Well, you know on this morning's show that woman Harrison Harris. Yes yes Harris she said that she talked to some other guys including Gonzales and they confirmed what this guy said all I know is Joe Rogan called he wants his mothership name back He's sick and tired of it So, well let's go talk to the military then. Let's go talk to the Pentagon and see what they have to say about these mysterious drones. Sabrina can you tell me what the Pentagon is doing to address this issue of drone sightings over New Jersey? It's near sensitive

04:22 the Pentagon, and we're going to continue to monitor what is happening. And so, we are not going to be able to do that. So I think it's important for us to understand what the situation is and how we can make sure that we're at no point where our installations threatened when this activity was occurring. These are not U.S. military drones again this is being investigated by local law enforcement. drones or activities coming from a foreign entity or adversary. Well, how does that square with the mothership? This is no good! Representative Jeff Van Drew who's a Republican from New Jersey was just on the air saying that Iran launched a mothership probably about a month ago that contains these drones and that mothership is off of the coast of the United States

05:19 Why are they using the term mothership which implies... well, we both know why. Yeah because it's bullcrap. Why are they using the word mothership which implies a flying saucer? Because it's a psyop! This whole thing is a psyop and it shall be revealed! All shall be revealed but we need to have some more fun with that with the nonsense, the absolute nonsens- Yes you are correct The fact that they're calling it a mothership is kind of a clue And I completely believe that Representative Drew heard from some very high sources.

05:55 that this is the launch from the mothership from Iran. I completely believe someone told him that now. Oh, I do too he wasn't insincere No! He's very sincere and he's freaked out because that's what you do. ...contains these drones and that mother ship is off the coast of... Mother Ship The east coast of the United States Yeah, it-you know That is very annoying that they've done that It's almost like hey let's make sure the guys at NOAGENDA know this is bullcrap I know, let's call it a mothership. Wouldn't you call it like the launching vehicle? The launching platform? The drone ship? Carrier? There are so many things you could call it but to call it the mothership...

06:36 is a big lie. No one's ever used that term in this context before, that we know of. The mothership is always either a comedy club in Austin... The USS John Kennedy isn't the mother ship! It's not the mothership of the jets, no. ...the east coast of the United States Is there any truth to that? There is not any truth to that. There is no Iranian ship off the coast of the United States and there's no so-called mothership launching drones towards the United States But but the PSYOP is working as intended because everybody's coming out especially if you're in New Jersey And I want to say right off the bat, there's a couple things that are very difficult to do As an airman, I know it is very hard to gauge how high something is flying

07:22 feet wise, you know. You look at or even mist it's very hard to look up and say okay is this mist 500 feet a thousand feet? Is it 3,000 feet just to back you up on this anyone who's been near an airport and watched the small plane take off and then watch the 747 take off and a 747 is going lot faster looks like it's not even moving It's just a phenomenon. It's an optical illusion. You can kind of gauge speed and you certainly can't gauge size. But when you're throwing mothership out there, people come out of the woodworks and they all appear on NewsNation. Well I saw a drone if it was a drone who knows what it was but it was not the drone you see people fly there's the picture It was the size of a school bus

08:27 I'm coming home from on patrol live. It's 1230 at night and I get into Montclair, New Jersey and I see the full moon And I'm like, well it can't be a full moon because the full moon was two weeks ago. It was school bus! All of sudden it's getting closer and closer then first I think its that plane that helicopter then it's hovering right over the woods as you're entering Montclair and it's a drone literally 40 feet wide by 40 feet wide. Its forty feet wide by forty feet wide? It's a big block of drone forty feet to garages. It's a school bus. It's flying makes no noise but it's flying. Hovering right over

09:17 the woods, pull over get out of my car. Forget about the phone I'm just like looking at this thing wondering what the heck it is then i said oh you should take a picture i grabbed my phone starts the second it's like notices on out there it just starts heading south grab the picture it looks like that picture looks like a dot looks like yeah at the very most like a plan nine from outer space flying saucer but when i got a good close look at it when it was only about 100 feet off ground, 150 feet off the ground. It looked like a drone on steroids literally drone the size of a garage. Okay so I'm just gonna say no just looking at weight and size and you would have to have a very very noisy propulsion system to keep something like that hovering so iImjust gonna say no it was not the size of a school bus

10:10 But this has really freaked everybody out. Here's the New Jersey Assemblyman who drove two hours to come to the meeting, to find out nothing! Alright so you're here today... You were just inside? You walked out why? I walked out because it was worthless It was the biggest amateur hour presentation i've ever seen about anything okay? It was ridiculous there were no answers Every question that was asked by a member of state legislature great questions No answers, no resolution. They don't know where the drones are coming from they don't know who's doing it they don't know why they're doing it but they say there is no credible threat It was annoying to be here I drove two hours today spent an hour in there and now have to drive 2 hours back The biggest waste of 5 hours in my entire life So why did you think that they called this meeting? No idea! Why would you call a meeting and tell people that you didn't know anything

10:56 I have no idea. And then when the legislators would ask questions, there were no answers. Here's the most frustrating part. The Colonel of State Police said that he had a helicopter flying over above one of these drones—a six-foot drone or something like it, I can't remember exactly what he said—and he just felt unsafe for his helicopter so he just let it go Just let it go. Who knows? You know, didn't want to follow it because you didn't feel safe. That is the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard. I mean honestly... Do they have any idea where these drones are originating from? No! They don't. They would maybe if they followed that sucker when it landed they would know but they do not. This is a complete lack of effort

11:33 In my opinion, I'm trying to figure this out. This is not about ability we have the technology We have the people we have the training. We have the resources. We have the money It's just a lack of effort. I mean why? I don't know Oh something must be up but always remember no agenda is your mental healing center We will take care of you at all costs so I'm rummaging around and like okay Let me see what's going on here because this there's got to be something. There's too many politicians running around Telling us all kinds of stories and sources And I just love the media jumping on the school bus the size of a two-car garage I mean, this is a flying to gargoyle coupe 2 car garage that makes no sound okay? and then we have Representative green and this was what started me down some rabbit holes especially

12:29 bring in the chairman of House Homeland Security Congressman Mark Green. Congressman, thanks for spending time with us on this story and thanks for joining us what's going on here? What more do we know about these drones how come the people in government don't know what's going on so that these drones could be from anyone a recreational user they could be from our adversaries that are spying on our infrastructure and the layout of our infrastructure or military we don't know you're right know. The problem is that the authorizations are about to expire, so we've got legislation right now to renew those and expand the authorizations that allow both DOJ and DHS in this legislation advance those authorities to local authorities actually watch these things and in case of where there's a threat destroy them. We're working on that legislation it's my bill were gonna make it happen

13:23 Alright, so there's legislation. Notice by the way the number of these reports threw in a little... Oh they're flying over Trumps Bedminster New Jersey golf course just to add a little bit to it Sure So this guy he's talking about some legislation that needs to be redone or reaffirmed or re-upped And this is a multi-pronged, I can think of... I can make it pretty clear case what this is about. This is about getting rid of your drone Your drones are gone Here's what he was talking about. FBI, DOJ and Border Patrol officials have asked House lawmakers to give state and local authorities coverage permission for unmanned aircraft systems so that they can now be in charge of what you fly in the sky

14:16 And so right now it's the FAA, the Federal Aviation Administration. They're saying no no we want control over the drones that fly around because the only drones that will be sanctioned will obviously be those from Amazon and Walmart and your little fun drone is going to be over Then I come across the American Security Drone Act, which has only been introduced but i'm pretty sure this is what this is about. And it's all about prohibition of procurement of covered unmanned aircraft systems from covered foreign entities No more Chinese drones for you. That's what this is about because they know and when I say they the lawmakers, the military industrial complex Eric Schmidt they know that

15:02 that drones is the future of warfare and they want to have total control, and you will not be allowed to buy a drone from China or any other covered country. That's what this is about! They're scary who knows they're as big as a school bus we have to have the local authority the FBI Department of Justice We can all go...we can have control we don't need the FAA your drones are done that's what this is about And it's a perfect time to do it It's fun You got all kinds of stuff going on. Let's slip this one in, that's it! That's what this is all about nothing else I like the mothership angle though i think that's pretty good. I can't argue with anything you said Yeah because there is no argument It's there... Why are all these guys out there? And the Pentagon's like No, no, no These are no, its nothing Throw a little bit of mystery in there with the mothership This is about getting rid of your drone

16:02 That's it, you're done. It's over with and we're gonna see so many more of these reports all drone here drone there You by the way you are not allowed to shoot at a drone if it flies over your house We've learned this now some poor sap in Florida shot at a drone he hit it And then he went to jail for shooting at the drone So there should be no reason if the drones over your house, you can't shoot it down. I agree III think in well It does vary by state. I think in Texas you'd be able to do it We see that anything else? I think that's any drones over flying around Texas mysteriously No

16:41 So I think that's... Oh, we can do a... Just to wrap it up. We'll do a Deutsche Welle report about the mysterious drones see how Europe views us Dozens of drones larger than those typically used by hobbyists have been spotted across New Jersey in recent weeks This guy is good! I like his voice over at the Deutsche Welle They've flown near sensitive sites like a military research facility and over one if president-elect Donald Trumps golf courses And ever since the FBI asked the public for help last week, residents have reported seeing drones in other areas as well. Notice the FBI asks that we have to ask them for help because what we're not allowed to do anything We need to have this authority please give it to us Congress Federal and state officials have stressed that the aircraft pose no known threat to public safety

17:31 But on Wednesday, FBI Assistant Director Robert Wheeler faced a grilling when testifying before Congress. You know sometimes I feel like i'm in the twilight zone up here like month after month people come before us they testify and you don't get a lot of answers and it's concerning its frustrating you're telling me we don't know what the hell these drones are New Jersey or is that correct? That's right. It's crazy, I mean it's crazy that madness that we don't know what these drones are We do not attribute that to an individual or a group yet we're investigating but i dont have an answer of who is responsible for that one more people who are responsible for those drone flights

18:20 that we're actively investigating. New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy has called the drones very sophisticated and said he's taking the situation deadly seriously, and a state senator is calling for a limited state of emergency over the sightings So this bill was introduced... Wait how sophisticated can they be if you haven't caught one? This is all such nonsense Well this reminds me now they're not going to disallow Commercial drone owners that take photos and do the fireworks displays. No, no, all licensed. This reminds me of the early 1900s. We go back on this show! When I was a kid... That's how you need to start. The early 1900s when radio was a hobby

19:11 And at some point the radio, all the hobbyists they all had their own radios and everyone was transmitting all over the place. It was nuts and they had to start licensing it because it was getting a little out of control. Is that when we got War on the World? No that was in the 30's I'm talking about 1920, 1918 when real radio hobbyists, radio hobbyist were like computer hobbyists in the early days. And it was becoming a problem because people were stepping all over each other. The rationale was well there are frequencies and not that many frequencies and they're stepping on each other we gotta license it. National security! So it was the same thing they found out you know argument was weak but at the same time it was necessary for

20:00 licensing purposes. You get the money for the licenses, you get... out of control and this goes away. We don't have the craziness going on like we would-you're gonna end up with if you let drones just go nuts and so it's the same thing I don't see any difference is they necessary to start the license this if you want to have a You want to be a drone hobbyist or you want to develop drones? Or something gonna get it have to get a license It's just like everything in this country. You have to be licensed. Well, y'all drive a car with the same thing with automobiles They were driving around banging into each other at the licenses I think it goes a bit further and I appreciate The history of that but you already need a license technically

20:41 to fly a drone. They already got through that hurdle this is about eliminating your ability to even get a drone because no drones from China will be allowed to be sold in the United States, that's where they all come from! This is getting rid of all the drones No drones coming from a covered country we can only guess what those countries are it's China obviously here who signed this bill It's Rick Scott from Florida he's the sponsor he's the original sponsor co-sponsors Warner of Virginia, Rubio Florida Blumenthal Connecticut. This is bipartisan this and these are all military people Blackburn Tennessee Christopher Murphy Connecticut Josh Hawley and Mitt Romney This is obvious I don't see the difference between my analogy And any of this because in fact you can't just go necessarily buy a ham radio rig

21:39 And you can't buy a car from China. Well, no... You can't buy drone from China? I can't buy a BYD electric here! But all these drones are from China They are at the moment but Yeah, they're gonna put a stop to that the same way they put us thought you can't buy cars from China. I mean they don't want...China just floods the market with stuff and we just can have that. That's a good point though your ham radio that won't be long until you can get ham radios from China. That's a good point get your bao things now everybody! That's a good point. They get nice cheap same similar almost as cheap from Vietnam

22:17 Yes, I agree. Debauchee fame for 35 bucks? Come on! You get two now you get two for 49. But you get 2 in a pack for 49 bucks now it's even better. Anyway, I appreciate it guys thanks for putting the mothership bid in there so that we knew something was up Now... We might as well just go right on through to the CEO killer Because I think there's something up there as well. The healthcare assassin is one of the terms are trying to push Here's a he's a pretty good backgrounder from CBS on the health care hitman health care hit man Yes, here's here's a pretty good background at the most recent update

23:00 For the first time, the NYPD says forensic evidence places the suspect at a location where UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was shot and killed. We were able to match that gun to the three shell casings that we found in Midtown at the scene of the homicide. So already I don't believe that's true? I don't either! No... Because of nature of the gun it's not a rifled barrel or anything It's a ghost gun, that's all you need to know. We're also able in our crime lab to match the person of interest fingerprints with fingerprints that we found on both the water bottle and The Kind bar near the scene of the homicide He ate a candy bar! We got him! NYPD investigators say they collected that water bottle- Wait a minute what is the reason for plugging The Kind brand?

23:57 Well, it shows that he was a healthy young man. He's eating healthy. NYPD investigators say they collected that water bottle and wrapper near Starbucks where the suspect was seen on surveillance video about half hour before Thompson was murdered The NYPD also says they found his cell phone in an alley near the hotel with a fingerprint that matches as well Richard Esposito is a former NYPD deputy commissioner and CBS News contributor Prosecutors are confident right now they have a solid case, but what they're doing is they're buttressing what they already have with further evidence. They'll try and find the 3D printer if they can show up to the cell phone and a picture of him using his cell phone that match time match

24:42 They're going to present that. Law enforcement sources tell CBS News Mangione had a spiral notebook with him when he was arrested, where he wrote about considering using a gun over a bomb to carry out an attack because it was targeted precise and doesn't risk innocence. I don't know that they have a confession But I think they have enough facts, enough of a pattern of facts at this point to say this shows he was going to do it. We don't know. He may very well admit to police in custody that he did it. Mangione's attorney said he will plead not guilty and is fighting his extradition to New York. OK, couple of things first let's deal with the obvious one which I'm sure will be a sidetrack of this psyop and that's the ghost gun on the weapon that was found

25:29 the idea that it was a ghost gun, potentially manufactured in a 3D printer. Tell us just the challenge that poses to law enforcement because those are so difficult to trace. You can't trace it there's no serial number you order parts and put together with 3d printers So in terms of investigation if we went on We would never be able track that firearm Because they don't have a serial number What will do now is... We need to track it! You have it! The detectives will take it to lab And test fire And we'll take the gun and match up to the blisters at the scene. We'll see that's a comparison, so that will be done as part of the post arrest investigation." Alright, this idea of a ghost gun with a suppressor is highly dubious but we all love the ghost gun thing So there will be a whole track talking about the ghost gun But what really happened is what I identified immediately on Sunday show

26:21 Is this guy has been elevated to hero status and that's what this is about. This Ivy League hottie named Ivy League hottie Oh, there you go. This Ivy League hottie named Luigi it's the Robin Hood that we never knew that we needed I listened to Luigi's manifesto this morning three times this by the way CNN and I cried honestly It's beautiful and I agree with him. At least he left a very powerful message, and he highlighted how terrible the healthcare system is in America. I think it'll go down as a hero in history. He had been a named suspect for less than 48 hours, and yet within a fraction of that time many in the world of social media had already made up their minds about Luigi Mangione. I'm just eating it because this is like

27:08 regular everyday person becoming our hero, our vigilante. These types of comments angering law enforcement and public officials I don't care your views about health care companies because i don't think they're brave right now either but you do not celebrate The assassination of another human being was just doing his job. But interest in Mangione just continues to grow on X before his arrest announcement, he had just 64 followers now more than 320 thousand and counting. His initial 827 followers on Instagram grew exponentially Monday as we watched by three o'clock more than 32,000 an hour later 53,000 by five o'clock Monday more than 71,000 followers before that account was suspended many of the comments calling for his freedom and calling him a hero okay so this is important to

28:06 take note of because it's being egged on. The media keeps doing the story over and over again, he is a hero you know this guy you know he is uncovered its the season of reveal people are in agreement left right doesn't matter democrat republican voted for Kamala voted for Trump everybody agrees this guy was a hero we're even going to do stuff like hacking into signs Seattle overnight. So look at the message here that our photographer found near Dexter Avenue in the northbound lanes of the highway there reads one less CEO, many more to go. We don't know who's responsible for this message which agency operates the sign whether it's Washdot S dot or a private company and how this could have happened so we're certainly gonna let you know what we find out when we get some answers it appears that message was up for at least an hour overnight

28:56 So that's one of those road signs, beautiful. One less CEO many more to go back to CBS the outrage about the medical health care system is top-of-mind in tonight's I am America we look into the outpouring of anger not directed at this shooter but at the health insurance industry here CBS is Mark Strassman It's very hard for me to be empathetic. Free-floating outrage fuels this American moment. A targeted killing in midtown Manhattan, a hooded gunman and thousands of online posts like he's a hero overwhelmingly side with the shooter This guy is bringing the country together

29:38 In New York City, a hooded shooter look-alike contest brought cheap laughs. When shooting suspect Luigi Mangione was arrested in Pennsylvania online hot takes doubled down Which one of you McDonald's employees ratted that guy out? The Web's new hot sellers? Free Luigi shirts. Deny, defend, depose coffee mugs. Delivery before Christmas. Seemingly forgotten, Brian Thompson UnitedHealthcare CEO murdered in cold blood. The 50-year old husband and father of two sons was buried on Monday but online voices see him only as the face of a half trillion dollar health conglomerate In their eyes the obstacle to affordable healthcare

30:22 To many of these critics, it's a business model built on refusing to pay for services. In 2023 UnitedHealthcare denied roughly 33% of all claims the highest rate in the industry The overall industry rate? 19%. Okay these stories are not by accident they're trying to message something very important I don't even know if this is the same guy who pulled the trigger he doesn't look the same I love the, he left comments on Goodreads about the Unabomber manifesto. He even has the whole Ted Kaczynski look except for the sunglasses. He's got the mask over the nose. He's got the hoodie. Everything is perfectly orchestrated so that, sorry for saying it, dipshits like Taylor Lorenz

31:10 will go on Piers Morgan and she is so, because she's a dipshit. She's so caught up in what her fans love about her that she can't even show any empathy because that's what this is intended to do it's intended to vilify the healthcare justifiably vilified the health care industry which we have talked about Since this show began since Obamacare in 20 2008 when this conversation was raging as well We were talking about how they were screwing everybody goes back to vaccines give people medication before they get sick This has been a conversation for a long time No one talks about it. And now all of us on the news media is allowed to say he's Luigi hot Luigi was a hero

32:02 Come on, this is an op. Here's Taylor I do believe in the sanctity of life and i think that's why i felt along with so many other americans joy unfortunately you know because it feels like Seriously? Joy in a man's execution? Maybe not joy but certainly not empathy Because again We're watching the footage How can this make you joyful This guy's a husband, he's a father and he's being gunned down in the middle of Manhattan. Why is that making you joyful? So are the tens of thousands of Americans that have been murdered! So are the tens of thousands of innocent Americans who died because greedy health insurance executives like this one push policies of denying care to the most vulnerable people

32:49 the many millions of Americans that have watched people that I care about suffer and in some cases die because of lack of health. So should they all be killed then? Should they all be killed, these healthcare executives would that make you even more joyful? No it would not. Why are you laughing? Because... Because it wouldn't fit the system. You seem to find the whole thing hilarious! I find your question funny. A bloke's been murdered on the street, I don't find it funny at all I don't find it funny that tens of thousands of Americans die every year because they are denied life-saving health care from people like this CEO. Now, I want to fix the system! You're right we shouldn't be going around shooting each other with vigilante justice no

33:31 I think that it is a good thing that this murder has led to America, really the media elites and politicians in this country paying attention to this issue for the first time. You mentioned you couldn't understand why somebody would feel this reaction when they watched a CEO die. It's because you have not dealt—it sounds like—with the American health care system in the way that millions of other Americans have. I've dealt with the health care system in various ways in America. I don't think it's perfect by any means, but the idea that I would view it as something joyful. Have you been denied my faith statement? The idea that I would view it as something joyful that a man who is just a healthcare executive has been executed in the street, I find completely bizarre! Okay so Pierce is playing his role perfectly and Taylor... Oh yeah he always plays it perfectly. I'm aghast. So and I will posit

34:23 that if... Don't say that. I have to, because if Twitter was still run by Dorsey and they had that trust and safety team and all of that, it might not have been allowed to post these things about the CEO killer That has changed completely with Musk And where's really rampant is on Blue Sky Notice I said blue sky to make sure everyone understands what I'm talking about So I just knew. Blue... I joined by the way! Oh good You can follow me at John C Dvorak So back in 2012, episode 445, I didn't pull the clip you can go and listen to it. It might have been a Hot Pockets tour but i was invited In DC to go view a movie based upon a book called Deadly Spin

35:21 by a guy named Wendell Potter. I don't know if you remember this? No, but Wendell Potter used to work at Cigna he was the...I think he ran the PR department for Cigna Healthcare Insurance and He retired, he left with big... Oh I'm leaving this horrible industry. People are lying it's no good and he made a movie and I'd met him, I think had lunch with him in DC And said come to my movie We went to the movie and I'm looking at this movie like wait a minute what is going on here? Then right after the movie he gets up and there is panel with Elizabeth Holmes not Holmes

36:06 The woman, the representative from DC who was not allowed to vote. That horrible woman... Norton! Thank you. Norton and it was all about Obamacare That's what it was about. The whole thing was about we need socialized medicine, the government has to pay for it We have to take it away from that from the insurance companies It all has to be socialized medicine and I could totally got snookered into going that stupid movie And halfway through him is like hold on a second This is the actual propaganda The propaganda is the Affordable Care Act Well lo and behold amongst all of this Who comes back and spends 10 minutes with Katie Turr?

36:50 With another guy, both have new books out. Coincidence? Once again Wendell Potter. And joining us now President of the Center for Health and Democracy and former health insurance executive Wendell Potter he's also the author of Deadly Spin and senior national correspondent for Huffpost and author of The Ten Year War Obamacare and The Unfinished Crusade For Universal Coverage Jonathan Cohn You know everybody has a story Wait wait stop Did she say HuffPo? Yes, she did. It's almost as bad as saying Posit. I know it's bad. Everybody has a story about dealing with insurance companies and not many of those stories, Wendell are happy stories. The perception is that these companies are not in it to care for people its not for the service its to squeeze as much money as they possibly can out of individuals and when push comes to shove when those individuals need that money back to delay delay delay in order

37:54 All the words. The person to give up or to get more money out of them, is that an incorrect perception of how the industry works? No it's not at all. It is the correct perception as a reality and its notable that this murder, this corporate assassination took place in Manhattan on the day United Health was holding its investor day This assailant had to know that was significant because the reason why we have these delays, why we have this challenge that so many people with health insurance have in getting the care they need is because of a slavish devotion of these companies to Wall Street. They have to meet Wall Street's profit expectations every three months

38:41 and to show them that they're managing expenses. And that means there's greater and greater use of prior authorization, higher out-of-pocket costs before their coverage kicks in, inadequate provider networks... Delays and denials are what people encounter these days increasingly." Wendell Potter I'm going to read from his Wikipedia he has been called the Daniel Ellsberg of corporate America by Michael Moore and a straight shooter by Bill Moyers Potter is the first and only health insurance insider to have publicly criticized the industry's stance on the Obama healthcare reforms. A supporter of the Affordable Care Act, Potter correctly predicted in 2010 that the final version of the law would increase health insurance industry profits and argued they would find a way to game the system He became a vocal advocate for Medicare-for-all in 2018

39:34 saying in September 2019 that it's time to move to a program that makes a lot more sense economically as well as morally. Now what's interesting about Mr Potter here and his Center for Health and Democracy, if you go to the website and you go to the donate page... What do you think it is when you want to donate to The Center for Health & Democracy? I don't know, Act Blue? Act Blue. Exactly! It's Act Blue This guy is no independent source and here's the pitch Katie Chur is going to set it up for us because this is the one thing Trump has not had an answer for in any of the questions about what to do with health care and affordable healthcare Here comes The Push Again a really interesting moment

40:22 There is so much distrust of institutions, of industry. It's part of the reason why Donald Trump got elected and he's able to put the various people he was trying to put into these cabinet positions because people don't believe government works and they don't like corporations there is this seething anger And they thought that Donald Trump was a person who best fight it I mean you can argue whether or that is actually accurate, that Donald Trump will deliver on that. But there's an expectation that he is going to and given that Wendell do you see this as an inflection point? As a different leverage on the industry, pressure on the industry than there might have been in the past

40:59 I do. In fact, when this happened, I was in Washington actually meeting with Republican members of Congress... What are the chances? What a coincidence, Wendell! To see where there is common ground with Democrats on moving forward with reform and there really is. It's the first time I've ever seen this kind of bipartisan interest in reform now it's not going to be easy to Jonathan's point because these companies spend enormous amounts of money to influence how politicians think and how they vote But I'm seeing a change, and to the point earlier that you made Katie about doctors being really fed up with health insurance companies. They are as well too they're having a hard time advocating for their patients getting paid as they need to be. They're dealing with prior authorization requirements more than they ever have before. Their patients are having to face high out-of-pocket costs before their coverage kicks in. They too are fed up

41:54 So I'm not saying that they killed this guy to kickstart this, but never let a good crisis go to waste. These guys were ready for it. They've been ready for a long time and i think the next uh the next shoe to drop will probably be accusing UnitedHealthcare of Medicare fraud which I'm pretty sure that they're in fact...I have boots on the ground from one of our producers which is pretty damning He's in, I think Indiana. So Optum they're owned by UnitedHealthcare They provide health care state Medicare and Medicaid services to the state of Indiana And he says one of my family members from my wife side works as a contractor for Optum Optum team contains a lot of Indians and Pakistanis who don't follow any rules or laws in good faith

42:45 I don't know if that makes them Brahmins or not, I don't know. Optum placed them to sit with state employees with no supervision ever since COVID they're all working from home No one knows where they are My relative sometimes works from our home Often others work from completely different countries None from state nor Optum does a sanity check on these employees or contractors, nor check the quality of their work. They all work on their own schedules cover each other's ass while they're doing their second or third jobs My relative mostly sleeps through the work day while billing eight hours each day for just sleeping Optum pays them less than market prices so they overstate the project hours to bill overtime at 1.5 times regular pay

43:26 My relative boasts that he bills 10 times the actual time he spends on a task and also bills overtime almost every month. The state's IT manager is a dumbhead who doesn't know what's going on and doesn't care how much Optum is looting from the taxpayers' purse." With a lack of supervision and practically easy money, many of the employees and contractors are addicted to drugs online gambling alcohol. One of the employees was arrested on charges of child pornography while he was already on parole for using drugs this is all coming to light now And I think that they're really setting it up for some kind of Medicare-for-all. We have to get all of this out, Elizabeth Warren is already working on a bill to break up pharmacy benefit managers It's a mess and they're taking advantage of this To get all the anger out there and all the representatives will all get onboard.

44:23 It's a great moment in media. It is a great media moment that they're taking advantage of here, it's quite fascinating to watch Well it's definitely fascinating to watch because its got op written all over and it has all kinds of crazy stuff going on I think you are right about Medicare for All They want to...they are irked that hasn't gone through already Now I have a doctor but don't have many more because he had to close his practice He was part of the larger group And they closed their practice because of the problems getting these insurance companies to pay out. They had full-time people hounding them constantly to pay benefits out and for them to get paid, it's a nightmare. Yeah. So he said early on and people talked about this I think back in 2016 about how doctors are gonna have to shut down because they're just gonna quit

45:20 I remember this. Yes, we were talking about this. It was a big deal. He's one of the guys who quit! And which was annoying to me because now I have doctors that are just, you know. I call them checkbox doctors. They... Did you get a shingle shot? You want one? No! Okay. Did you get tetanus? You're overdue for tetanus. Now I don't want one. Does your daddy have guns in the house? Check. Well they haven't gotten to that but they have all these check boxes and you can just hear it in their brain clicking off the check marks and then they're done with you. It sucks But the funny thing is he did say something before he completely shuttered the business and all the doctors that were working there scattered to here and there. He said, he concluded that this was leading to socialized medicine then it was a whole trend which was you know Obamacare's trying to be. And this would also be Medicare for All. He concluded at the very end, he says, You know? That's not gonna fix it!

46:24 It's something else, he says. And I would do it." He said no! He says this is...it looks like a good idea? It looks like the reason this is all collapsing is because of these insurance companies?" No! He says that's not the problem. The problem is deeper rooted and Medicare for All is NOT...he made a big point in this Medicare for all, socialized medicine is not going to change anything. And I thought about this for years and I'm still thinking about it and it had...and I think it's because of the drug companies. I think as big pharma they're the ones who jack up the prices of all these drugs. They're are the ones who change you know if drug goes generic they buy the generic manufacturer that when the drugs should be now cost 10 cents a pill

47:07 They buy the generic guys at this same price as the old drug. And they're the ones that are manipulating the insurance companies, what I think it's all big pharmaceuticals and this is all has to do with advertising on TV. Oh yeah, you notice that no one is saying Big Pharma. They're only talking about insurance and the doctors I think Big Pharma in a perfect world they want Amazon to have because they're fighting Mark Cuban he's trying but they want Amazon to be the distribution through the drones They want AI doctors No real doctors! Just check in through your online portal and the AI will tell you what you have And then send it off They wanna cut out everybody else

47:52 And if anyone thinks socialized medicine is great, well I lived in the Netherlands and I lived in the United Kingdom. It was not great! If you had money then you could go right around to the side door same place you can get the scan no one in there people twiddling their thumbs then if you were on the NHS the National Health Care System Then he had to wait a minimum of six months and this was in 2005 so it's only gotten worse And what is genius here is how social media, I believe being manipulated and it's not censorship or anything like that. You just let people go you know? No! I think manipulations are the wrong word... It's natural Yeah thank you Have you ever heard of Leonard Kleinrock from your old tech days

48:45 Not no not why me I know well let me so I have a short clip and I have a note from one of our producers who says, I work as a technology and computer science teacher in research And I've done this for nearly 20 years. What caught my ear on the NO Agenda show is the intermittent chats about technology and the damage it's doing to people. I agree wholeheartedly and I teach on this Recently, there's been a number of mentions of internet phenomena such as overuse of social media triggering mental and physical outbursts that range from delirious to body-changing. There are some references to Jonathan Haidt's work – and of course that is the coddling of the American mind – in the longstanding deliberate division of groups via social engineering in digital form. This brainwashing is global and glued to one's hand."

49:32 I would like to reference that this has been known since 1969 to 1975 when ARPANET was first testing the connections between multiple nodes on networks and their behaviors, especially those of much larger networks beyond UCLA and Berkeley. The UK and Finland became direct benefactors at this enterprise and it pulled in many more universities in the clip attached Leonard Kleinrock outlines the law of large numbers where quote, the larger the network is far more efficient it becomes. Here's a clip. This was a simplified but exact model at that time now we have other aspects of it but basically the underlying principles of the network and one of things we found

50:16 Surprisingly, with that the larger the network is the far more efficient it becomes. Like a gambling casino that certainly makes money if you have millions of gamblers at the slot machines Very much so! You've articulated what we call The Law Of Large Numbers The Law Of Large Numbers says that a large population of unpredictable players or messages collectively behaves in a very predictable fashion, a fashion we can write down exactly and therefore we can predict the performance of the network when it's large. I believe this... In real life

51:01 I should just as an anecdote, people who give public speeches or performances including myself. The difference between talking to a small audience of eight people and an audience of 2 000 people is profound The large audiences are the best. They react differently, it's like a different animal and you can see the same thing and we talk about the efficiency of the large networks with the largest network that were now dealing with and we're doing this show over one of them The efficiency has gone through the roof. We got double gigabyte lines, big gigabit lines coming in to both of our places. The quality is much improved over the years. It should go with the size you think it would deteriorate but it hasn't, it's actually gotten better. We have less dropouts than the early days compared to the early days and we have higher speeds. Yes this is apparent

52:05 that this is true and it also falls in line with the popularity of TikTok. Yes, it's being a so huge and predictable operation with 180 million users It's predictable! That's what I like and our professor goes on to finish his note with looking at blue sky I think the newest internet control mechanism is here And we were talking about Kony 2012, psychological experiments. That was early days of the big network. Let's remember the ice bucket challenge? You remember that one? Yeah and I remember fools who propagated it Yes! But it is predictable So when you spur this on This oh he's a hero It's being spurred on and there are all kinds of actors at play

52:55 So we should just sit back and enjoy the show because it's unavoidable. It's inevitable! And, it is incredibly entertaining. It is great for the show but I mean we might have to do eight more years that are going to get so much fun. Eight more years? I'm telling you... Hey Adam and Hayley, what happened this week? That's why I don't know what Australia is doing. I mean Australia they're making the wrong moves you don't want to ban people from getting on social networks You want them all on! You want them tapped in the minute there baby here's your vaccine Here's your smartphone kid. It's a sharp heligram he's got business today He's staying in Australia actually yeah The government wants to force

53:42 companies to pay for the news articles shared on their platform shop. punitive measure. That's right the Labour government of Anthony Albanese unveiled a new scheme this Thursday which threatens the operators of social media platforms with attacks unless they strike deals with Australian news publishers to use their articles traditional media outlets around the world are struggling to generate revenue as advertising income is being diverted to tech companies. Oh that's gonna help! Hold on a second

54:24 We've already gone decades ago. Yes, it happened here mm-hmm this idea and It's basically put people out of business because of the this stupidity or let's cut them off You can't do that day and it's already been proven but these guys are gonna do it again They're gonna reinvent the bad wheel well there they're gonna reinvent a flat tire. There's They're stupid They think that they need to do this to have control, but you don't need it. You just need a couple of number nicks to get onto Twitter and your good One study by the University of Canberra showed that in 2024, 49% of Australians use social media to access news. A 4% increase compared to the previous year And when looking at Gen Z Australians specifically 60% of them use social media Of course they do! Up 17% from last year

55:29 Communications Minister Michelle Rowland spoke to media defending the scheme. Well today's announcement is about backing Australian journalism and supporting the health of our democracy The news bargaining incentive is critical to ensuring that digital platforms contribute to the sustainability of journalism in Australia. No one cares, nobody cares this it's great a number of organizations have figured it out and they know how it works and you just I think the State Department has done pretty good You know, they have their... well it was 7000 at the Global Engagement Center techno experts. Yeah you put seven thousand people online with a message that they have to propagate this is the way to do it! It's good to go exactly and there's a lot of employment there by the way. You can't turn your nose up at that this is your hiring people

56:27 Okay, so... 11,000 people to be online shit-posting. Let's go to the next one. We have one more psyop and this one is a doozy! I love this! We start with our spook Richard Engel who pops up in Syria And just decides to rummage around inside Assad's palace because, why not? I mean it seems to be some kind of opt to start with so why not send your guys in. So you climb in through the window now. I'm in the window! I will say this is the first time I've entered a presidential palace through the window Yes Ah

57:08 A bedroom. I can't stop thinking that i've done this before, I was in Gaddafi's bedroom, I went into Saddam Hussein's palaces, his bedroom... What a coincidence! a better NBC report. You are first greeted by the Grand Atrium, accented by a classic wood-paneled library. This is better than MTV Cribs! Upstairs was for the family only—the apartment where the rebels say Assad lived. You could tell this was really the inner sanctum because everywhere here there are thick bulletproof doors they are extremely extremely heavy solid

58:07 Very solid. Metal, electric keypads I mean what is the point of this? This is so crazy! This could have been sealed off but in the end it didn't do him any good Did you see the tunnels and did you see the Ferraris and the Gullwing Mercedes oh my All this security was to protect his bedroom ransacked after he fled There's something curious whenever you go to someone's house. People always want to see their bathrooms, just get a sense of how they live well. We always want excuse me when I come to your house i'd love to see your bathroom? I wanna see how I live and go to somebody's bathroom and see how they lived while they're in the pot all day! I want to make sure that you keep the lid down baby this was Assad's private bathroom in here oh wow with a jacuzzi tub

58:58 I can't imagine he'll be living this well in exile in Russia. I don't know, apparently he took $126 billion of gold and cash. Today the new interim government said Syria is broke! Cash flow didn't seem to be a problem for the man at the top. His personal barber chair... Oh no! him here. Alright, so we have the two... I like a personal barber chair! Yeah there you go yeah i mean there's one in the White House I'm sure there's one on the Kremlin but oh Assad and by the way that guy had a dumb haircut I mean he should get his money back for their barber chair but if that wasn't enough your girl look your girl pops up

59:44 Clarissa Ward. Of course! And what are the chances she... Did they smooch? She is there and frees a Syrian prisoner who's been in jail for months it just happened right there. I can't tell though, it might just be a blanket but its the only cell that's locked Is he gonna shoot it? The guard makes us turn the camera off while he shoots the lock off the cell door. Now why would the guard make you turn the camera off for him to shoot the lock, what sense does that make- I heard that too and i thought to myself the same thing Why why is the bullet gonna hit the camera because it was already unlocked this is a stupid spy game The guard makes us turn the camera off while he shoots the lock off the cell door

1:00:35 We go in to get a closer look. It's still not clear if there is something under the blanket. Is someone there? And she's so she's like walking up to this blanket and like, is it someone there? Is there someone there I can't tell. Is someone there or is it just my dad? Hello Hello? Geraldo should have been doing this shoot.

1:01:15 Here we go. We got a guy! Oh no! I'm a civilian, he says. I'm a civilian. It's okay. Now she is gripping his hand. He tells the fighter he is from the city of Homs and has been in this cell for three months. Okay you're okay? You're okay. Okay, you're okay. She speaks 18 languages but she has to say you're okay to him the guy doesn't speak English

1:01:52 Anyway, then the guy drinks some water and she's a hero. This is amazing! This guy was under the evil dictator's rule... ...then she liberated him. It's fantastic. Just so good. So good I don't really, you know these networks and these stories in this. These presentations is it's baffling? This is why hot Luigi said it's insulting to the American intelligence because he really is all of these stories are insult. We were not stupid but let's listen to representative Massey who has something to say about this. Let's talk about the timing of this

1:02:42 Remember, Tulsi Gabbard was in Congress and she and I collaborated on a lot of these efforts to stop our meddling the US meddling in Syria. And now she's been named as the head of DNI Well, I think that was the signal to the deep state to go in for the kill and get this over with because Trump and some of his nominees like Tulsi Gabbard are signaling that we're not going to carry on the policies of Obama and the deep state. It's clear as day to me whether it was led by by the United States or whether we just encouraged it, definitely the timing is not a mistake. When you find the turtle on a fence post that didn't get there by accident... So for instance some of the stronger powers like Israel they used their military forces to bomb

1:03:36 the dozens of jets and helicopters in Syria. Basically, what these terrorists couldn't do other people in the Middle East hurry up to and did here in this last week to make sure that Assad didn't have the typical resources that a government would have to respond to these threats so The Deep State, let's just call it the state department because that who is running these shows along with their advanced team the CIA. They're doing this for the same reason they've been doing this stuff forever and I got a short clip of Jeffrey Sachs he's kind of lib tar type dude but he does have some his history down correctly He explains what this is really all about from the state department and quote-unquote deep states perspective

1:04:26 that we don't really discuss in America and that is not understood in America, is that our foreign policy is deeply entrained at the scale of decades. So what one observes is not because Obama came in or Trump came in or Biden came in. We have a deep state. The CIA is the main continuation agency of that deep state and it carries a basic foreign policy. The foreign policy of the United States since 1945 was to destroy the Soviet Union, and then after 1991 to try to do the same with Russia – if not destroy it, then fundamentally weaken it. In the case of the Middle East, the list that General Wesley Clark

1:05:22 Provided there is a list that Israel, and I should be more specific that Netanyahu and his US backers people like Wolfowitz Douglas Fyfe. And a number of others Richard Pearl set out already in the 1990s and said our job is to overthrow all of those governments And we've been at that for more than 20 years. This is continuity, this is not Democrats and Republicans Bush versus Obama it's a little boring frankly you know we get all this excitement who's gonna win? No! This is not how foreign policy is made Foreign policy is made in the longer term

1:06:12 So how did this affect Russia? Well, we're always looking for the obvious. We've been doing it for well over a decade. We're always looking for the oil. We're always looking for the gas... Oh pipelines! Yes, pipelines Putin's fury is mounting as Syria's strategic significance potentially slips away opening a new pathway for European gas supplies that could dramatically reshape energy dynamics in the region The recent agreements between Qatar and Turkey signal a potential game-changing development in global energy markets, threatening Russia's traditional energy dominance. According to diplomatic sources the two nations have committed to establishing a comprehensive energy cooperation framework that could fundamentally alter European energy security

1:07:02 Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan emphasized the strategic importance of their partnership, stating that Qatar and Turkey have consistently supported each other through challenging times. Their joint statement issued during the 10th session of the Qatari-Turkish Supreme Strategic Committee reveals an ambitious plan to reach a $5 billion trade volume and explore extensive energy collaboration The proposed gas pipeline represents a significant challenge to Russia's economic interests, potentially reducing Moscow's leverage over European energy markets. By positioning Turkey as a crucial hub for natural gas supplies from Qatar the partnership could replace up to 60% of the natural gas previously supplied by Russia to Europe

1:07:50 So this is one, a screw you to Putin but also to Trump because we don't want our liquid natural petroleum and natural gas to stop being wanted by the European Union. We want to keep shipping that out so now... Qatar-Syria pipeline has been in play for quite a while. In 2023, the European Commission was looking at this deal Turkey being the hub of course it has to go through Bulgaria first And I think we just heard the other day Bulgaria is next in line for some kind of voting issue. So, we'll see if they have to vote over again and Syria traditionally back to 1919 or something has had pipelines going through it originally went to Israel to Haifa that an oil pipeline which then was shipped out off to the UK when they switch from coal to oil

1:08:53 And you look at this new interim prime minister, Mohammed al-Bashir. Before joining the administration he worked as the head of precision instruments department at the Syrian gas company It's a gas guy! So they're planning something? It could still be thwarted and not go through the pipeline. There could be a different pipeline that goes to Lebanon, and then I guess Israel and the US could be shipping that off to Europe but I don't think there's any coincidence that Erdogan is roiled up in this and probably assisted with this overthrow which seemed to go pretty easily

1:09:38 It was nine days. This was supposed to be the horrible dictator? And this one guy, it's the same guy who first he was with ISIS and then... No first he was with Al Qaeda changed his name went to ISIS He is some sort of a spook obviously because he kept going from operation to operation The leader, I don't have his name but one of our contacts gave us the rundown of all those name changes And it's like, okay well this is fishy to say the least. Now there's a big battle going on in Syria whether they're gonna go towards Sharia law and they're gonna clamp down or they're gonna just go the other direction we don't know you get reports

1:10:25 Either way, it's just the whole things a mess and I have Israelis have moved in Yeah blow up a few things because they didn't like him there took over this so the dude's name was Abu Muhammad al-julani he was part of Al Qaeda then Isis then the El Nusra Front that Was rebranded as hiya Tahir al Sham HTS which stands for Organization for the Liberation of the Levant. He then rebranded himself to be Muhammad Al-Shariah, was captured with al-Baghdadi thrown into the same prison operated by the US both were let go. What's he doing here? This whole thing... The whole thing is scamish!

1:11:14 Oh man. And then Assad, how did Assad even get out by the way? Yeah there's no mention of it... He was probably helped out. Well I know he was obviously helped out but how? Did they ferret him out in a bus or dress him up as a woman? Or did they fly him out with a chopper we don't have any clues about this. Richard Engle showed us all the tunnels all the escape tunnels and everything he showed it to us It was also well known It is the season of PSYOP, I'm telling you. That's better! Than Season of Reveal? Yes, season of PSYOP. Exactly right. Season of PSYOP And it's like how do you spot the PSYOP

1:12:00 Well, first of all... And you always have to... The real problem of course with these PSYOPs is you have to try and figure out in advance what the end point goal is. There's some reason to do these things. I mean, I think we can kind of figure out this Medicare for All involved with the healthcare guy. Hot Luigi. Yeah. Hot Luigi and Medicare for All has got something to do with that. And gas and pipelines is the Syria thing. It's got something to do with that because there's no other reason for this happening up. No, Andrew also Trump getting in it so now we have we also have to have anti Kennedy forces because they're still freaked out about that but I don't think they can do anything as a then they'll we have the FBI stuff going on here you know Ray quits Now The interesting thing that the media keeps forgetting to report

1:12:53 Although they'll be quick to say, well FBI directors have a 10-year term and they do this so that carries over between administrations and there's no politicization. They forget to mention that Robert... was it Gates? Who was the FBI? Was it Gates? Mueller. No! The FBI guy. That was Mueller? He wasn't in the FBI? The guy who was FBI during Bush I'm sorry, during Obama... Hold on a second. You can just look him up, just go to FBI directors. Well the 10-year thing turns out to be something of a misnomer where they're using it. Just as background, they introduced the ten year limit which they violated more than once is to keep one guy from being in so long that he becomes like J Edgar Hoover and

1:13:48 And you don't want another J. Edgar Hoover, so that's why he had the 10 rule! It didn't mean you stayed for ten years it means you had to get out in ten years. You're right. Robert Mueller... He joined September 4th 2001 coincidence I think not So that was seven days before 9-11 And then he stayed on through into Obama and they had to do a whole special approval process which of course broke their set in stone law of 10 years, and he had to stay on for 12 years. Yeah Because he knew where all the bodies were buried. Which is the reason you didn't... Their 10-year thing was put in place to keep that from happening! Yeah, and then it happened It wasn't a guarantee he was gonna be in for ten years But then they just went ahead and did it The mainstream media has twisted it to me Oh, Ray's quitting before his ten years are up That was the idea You don't want them in for even the ten years Exactly

1:14:51 But so they've twisted that and they make a point of it, and this is like wait a minute you guys are missing the point here. Oh no you're not missing the point! What am I thinking? Yeah, they're not missing anything So you got some Ray Clips? I do as a matter effect. I'm glad you mentioned it First of all, let's start with Ray. Just the general... I think there are a couple of... I got the Ray anal clips? Joining us now to discuss Ray's resignation and... Just so everybody knows literally the clip is titled Ray Anal okay? It means analysis everyone knows that. Yes! Joining us now to discuss Ray's resignation and the FBI under his leadership is Paul Tamarly. Stop in the clip.

1:15:34 Instead of doing the analysis, let's do the analysis after the generalized clips. Let's play Ray Quitzes' NPR. FBI Director Christopher Wray made it official today saying he intends to resign before President-elect Donald Trump takes office. The announcement coming a week and half after Trump announced he would nominate loyalist Kash Patel for the FBI post... Loyalists! Vermont Democrat Peter Walsh, a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee said he finds the choice of Patel worrisome. The concern I have is his public statements where he wants to use this authority to go after people that disagree with him, that he regards as political opponents or journalists who wrote what he regards as bad stories There's no place for abuse in the authority of high law enforcement

1:16:20 powers to go after people because you disagree. So that's a concern. Ray's decision comes despite having three years left in his term and announcing his intention to step down, Ray said he wanted to quote avoid dragging the bureau deeper into the fray. Oh all right! And notice how they used the word term? Term yes It's not it's not a 10 year term. It is a term limit. It is a ten year limit Yeah it's a term limit exactly There's a difference between a limit and a term Correct Term implies that oh he had ten years. He's got 10 no, no That's a limit not a term. He was hired for however long the president wants him in there So this so this is NPR twisting the facts and using it as propaganda This by the way what? What in that regard its actually pathetic people should not send money to these operations They just send her the No Agenda show no agenda donations

1:17:14 For sure. Anyway, here's if you wanted to continue that we could actually jump to the same basic clip but now switch to NTD to the Ray quits same story only this is a little addition, little stuff added at the end. Cash Patel is the most qualified nominee to lead the FBI in the agency's history and it's committed to helping ensure that law order and justice will be brought back to our country again and soon now this paves the way for cash patel uh... his nomination too take up that confirmation vote now ray would have had to step aside either way here if cash patel was

1:17:52 confirmed by the Senate. Now, he was on the Hill again today, Kash Patel saying that he will bring more trust to the FBI watch We look forward to a very smooth transition and I'll be ready to go on day one. The senators have been wonderful, and I look forward to earning their trust and confidence in the advice and consent process and restoring law and order and integrity of the FBI. Now Patel has been on The Hill for the past week and the week before, he's been getting strong support from many Republican Senators in that key vote that he will need during the confirmation process Senator Josh Hawley said today there is no doubt in his mind that Patel will be confirmed

1:18:27 Ah, he's greasing the wheels on the hills. What you do? I gotta visit everybody. Hey! Look at this picture what you got in your mouth over there vote for me So they have the so we go to the array analysis Yes And you end up with the information that is kind of like kept from the main... The mainstream doesn't like that talk about it But a lot of it a lot of the reason he quit because saw the writing on the wall was because of a report that Grassley presented to him And this was the real key to why he quit, because it was a pretty damning report.

1:19:02 And now we can play those clips, Anil. Joining us now to discuss Ray's resignation and the FBI under his leadership is Paul Kaminar, lead counsel at National Legal & Policy Center. Paul thank you so much for joining us great to see again. Now FBI head Christopher Wray has announced he's resigning that's despite his term scheduled to end in 2027. Wray said about his decision quote in my view this is the best way to avoid dragging the bureau deeper into the fray What do you make of Ray's reason for resigning? Well, he obviously saw the writing on the wall that once President Trump took office he was going to be fired and rightly so. So he is trying to get ahead of the game and trying to bow out gracefully etc but he is leaving a pretty sad legacy and it's about time for him to go

1:19:49 Senator Grassley the other day sent a stinging 11-page letter to Wray just documenting all the problems that he had with the FBI. For example, weaponizing the FBI putting conservative Catholics who are pro life on some kind of terrorist watch list because they may protest abortion clinics going after parents at school board meetings for complaining about critical race theory. And then, you know he was very instrumental in allowing the Robert Mueller investigation go far including allowing an FBI lawyer doctor a FISA warrant to get a FISA surveillance warrant against Carter Page! Luckily that FBI lawyer finally

1:20:40 was convicted for doctoring this government document and was convicted of a felony. But there were hundreds of others at the FBI who were charged with sexual assault and misconduct, over 600 in the last 10-15 years, and they just resigned quickly. I mean there's no discipline there it was just running amok and Christopher Wray can't get out of their soon enough Yeah, it's too bad that they I mean if we went back on this show We could probably dig it all up. We could do a best of just of just the FBI Oh yeah my favorite one still which he didn't mention right but still look one of my faves faves is remember during the Boston bomber?

1:21:25 And they went to interview some guy and shot him dead in his house. Yeah, yes! Yes! Remember that? Well he was hiding behind... wasn't he in the speedboat that was on the trailer? No no this guy was in his house and went to interview him. Oh yeah you're right it was a different guy. They went to interview him and then something happened and apparently broke free from the interrogation chair and they shot him in the head He just shot the guy and that was the end of it. Oh man, what-what was that guy's name? Yeah, I can't remember either it would that was a while as a decade ago But it was like that was part of this but it wasn't Ray. Was that right? That wasn't no it wasn't nobody he but Grassley said dig this goes back a decade and way before ray yeah It's a problem the FBI is falling apart because they got sexual problems Remember that the other one their recent one were the there was I think it was the FBI that

1:22:20 They go and they commandeer somebody's house. They tape the camera on their front porch, and then they open it...they just bust into the place and use it as a headquarters without asking the owner? Remember that one? Yeah! That was recent. I think that was her store or something underneath there house. And they put a piece of tap over the camera. And they just go in and use the place. We're the FBI ma'am shut up But you do what we tell you to. We're the feds. It's pretty embarrassing, so let's go to analysis two. A CNN report using Gallup data showed that the FBI reached a century low approval rating this year that is 41% compared to 50% in 2022 Do you expect to see this number increase under the next administration? Yeah I certainly do. Uh...we are having uh...Kash Patel as the nominee to take Chris Wray's place as the FBI director

1:23:11 Kash Patel is not going to put up with this nonsense at the FBI. He's got great experience both in national security levels, at the Defense Department, former prosecutor himself and a defense attorney so he's going to straighten out that department and get rid of this bias and this kind of criminalization over-criminalization and weaponization I should say of the FBI And so I think a lot of the people there are dusting off their resumes right now because they know once cash battalion gets in there, they're going to be fired or asked to leave. Or what have you? So I think he will be fair and we'll shake things up over there. And it surely does need shaking up if anything. We need to remember about the FBI which have been tracking for well over 10 years. It's the six week cycle

1:24:08 Yeah, we've been tracking cycle. Yes the oh well beneath every six weeks Oh, we need to have something going on from Isis in America too. Oh goodness Well usually you find the dummies are gonna do some terrorism plot yeah? Yeah So yes well that that's good I'm glad you reminded everybody that it's a term limit not like you get elected for ten years That's a very good point You were talking about RfK Jr. Well, they're trying an old one on him which is at this point it's embarrassing that they still think that this is going to work and I do have some ideas for them free advice from the Curry DeVore Consulting Group how are we going to get rid of this RFK jr

1:24:59 Oh, let me check the... what do we have on the books guys? We have a... What did we use before? Oh yes! Let's try this one. In the words of 77 Nobel laureates in medicine chemistry physics and economics RFK jr at the helm of the Department of Health and Human Services would put the public health in jeopardy and undermine America's global leadership in the health sciences So they got 77 Nobel Laureate I just want to mention something. This is obviously some sort of club, and so I went and looked up...I only did about five of them but I did five random

1:25:37 Nobel laureates and looked them up on Open Secrets. Oh, good! All of them? Yeah Big Democrat supporters... all of them And I would suspect that if you look them all up they're all big Democrat supporters one or two of them didn't support anybody but period But the rest there's no there's not a Republican in the crowd this is bullshit It's also dumb Here's what they need to do. They need to get 77 of the biggest influencers like Mr Beast You know, you got to get these people to say it and and by the way They'll go in a heartbeat how much did you guys? True money help many works Yeah sure if you got in cash is king You got that woman who's cooking with her son on there on tik-tok and in fact any of your tick-tock influencers They're all great

1:26:33 If you get them saying that it's no good, that's how you use the network. I don't understand what this particular group uses these old... Nobel laureate! Go on the street and say who is a Nobel Laureate? Name one. Nothing. Who is a big YouTube star? Mr Beast. Who was a big influencer? Kim Kardashian These are the people you need to say that RFK Jr. is no good You're absolutely correct because you could go out in the street with them with the mic and ask what is a Nobel laureate? They won't know they won't know that and they said well, can you name one and then nobody I can't even name one off The top of my head except you know some old-timers back when I was at Berkeley Yeah

1:27:18 So this is just so stupid. And this is actually a France 24 report, listen to this complete void of evidence and fact report that France 24 is putting out about RFK Jr. This in a letter addressed to members of the United States Senate listing off the health secretary nominee's most sensationalist conspiracy theories on public health. Can you imagine if Mr Beast went into the senate? or Kim Kardashian, they'd be like yeah RFK Jr. is no good Kim absolutely Mr Kennedy has been an opponent of many health protecting and life-saving vaccines such as those that prevent measles in polio a promoter of conspiracy theories this is bullcrap I told you about remarkably successful treatments for AIDS and other diseases

1:28:11 On the one hand, JFK's nephew is a libertarian rallying against policies he called totalitarian in the days of COVID vaccination. Now they get now they do you remember when during COVID? He went to I think was Berlin And it's a, I don't know if it was Berlin but he was...I think it was Berlin and he went to a big conference. A big outdoor rally people were against the vaccine shot against the um...against uh...vaccine passports and he spoke outdoors that's what they're gonna go back to now The minute they hand you that vaccine passport every right that you have

1:28:48 is transformed into a privilege contingent upon your obedience to arbitrary government dictates. And what do we do about this? What do we do, we resist. During the pandemic he also- Wait hold on a second Any normal person listening to that has to agree with it. Why are they playing a clip like that? It's the circle jerk over there at France 24, they're all oh yeah Pierre was a very good piece eh? Was it a very good hit piece you did on Jeff Carr Jr.? We resist! During the pandemic he also suggested the virus may have been engineered to target Caucasian and black people while sparing Ashkenazi Jews and

1:29:34 Chinese this is quite a twist of the truth a theory widely denounced as anti-semitic and racist He has also it would stop again. We should mention that this was a conversation he had over at dinner table He's suggesting the possibilities of these sorts of things and it has been discussed to an extreme which is why there's a freak out over all the genetic information that these 20s yeah me or whatever are sending to China And because of this, the possibility that you can create a targeted virus. So that's not out of the realm of possibility and if you remember during the very first few months

1:30:14 the COVID breakout when the first case was discovered in Washington State there was discussion that it was targeting Han Chinese. It was an open discussion. That's right a theory widely denounced as anti-semitic and racist he has also attributed autism to vaccines a debunked claim. So not scientifically disproven, it's just a debunked claim? However in his days as an environmental lawyer he pushed for regulation and fought cases against the likes of seed giant Monsanto over the Roundup herbicide causing cancer And if confirmed he has promised to wage war on the food and beverages industry who he says are driving an obesity epidemic in children A plan that may be met with pushback from Donald Trump and powerful food lobbies

1:31:01 I thought that was very interesting they threw that in the end so he's going to go against the food industry, food labeling mainly. A plan that Donald Trump may not like because of the powerful food lobby? When does this come up? I don't get where that came from either That's new to me What is interesting in our theory of get someone up front to draw all the fire and be the lightning rod, and then slip in the deputy person into all these different positions. RFK Jr apparently is promoting the idea of his daughter-in-law to be the Deputy Director of the CIA which is interesting because she

1:31:44 We don't know if she's old school or new student. She's not old enough to be an old-school CIA and just as she wrote a book, and she's CIA or was supposedly because you ever was I don't think your ever was you always are so she Would be a good mole Be very good And then breaking this morning breaking President Trump announces Carrie Lake will serve as director of Voice of America. Oh I missed this one! Yes, the propaganda arm of the United States government Yeah, they gave up trying to become governor or yeah, whatever. Let me see what Trump wrote about it The population or Arizona does not like her for some reason I am pleased to announce that Carrie Lake will serve as our director of the Voice of America She will be appointed by and work closely with our next head of the US Agency for global media That's the person you want to be so she really got a crap job

1:32:44 Who I will announce soon to ensure that the American values of freedom and liberty are broadcast around the world fairly and accurately Unlike the lies spread by the fake news media. Uh-huh Yeah, right. Uh-huh. You carry like is it is a broadcaster? So it makes sense to put her in abroad basically becoming the What's that was that numbnut over at CNN Brian? What was his name who got fired the Delta? Yeah, she's the stelter of the voice of America now This it's a it's not a good job. It's like you're in there You're in the you're in the pocket but now well it pays well and has a benefit probably has benefits

1:33:23 She needs a job, has government benefits probably has a pension. You get to move to DC and there's all kinds of benefits. It'll be fine she's not gonna complain but the most horrific news breaking breaking oh I can't believe this Donald Trump. First reported by CBS News Donald Trump has invited the leader of America's greatest geopolitical rival to his inauguration. What can you tell us about that? Yeah, well Nora we know that Trump has extended an invitation to Chinese President Xi Jinping and he did so shortly after his election win in November No world leader has ever attended the inauguration of an American president

1:34:01 especially a communist leader like President Xi. Trump's been extremely critical of China and Xi, and he is threatening again to impose tariffs on the country but we also know that Trump puts huge value on face-to-face meetings with other leaders even rivals and inauguration officials are making plans for additional foreign dignitaries to attend. It will be a big event Nora. What do you think is going happen here? This is interesting move by Trump. Well this has been discussed in extreme on the various M5Ms and Kenny Fox. Magazine shows, yes. And the phony balonies that are on these shows. Nobody has a clue they think that he might show up and he might not show you know but I think if if he's smart he'll show up. I demand a lot of attention

1:34:49 He needs an he has to show up with an entourage. You can't just be some lone dude, you know What not no plus one? Kind of yeah, I just think maybe I can pick up a chick. I mean there's no yes Yes, have something going on. Yeah, he's got she should bring the North Korea kid the Rocket Man They should both come to that should be his plus one. That would be cool It would be a fantastic What a new era that would be all of us sudden we but it could set us you know, it's possible that There's been some back channeling that we don't know about and this is all were already been agreed upon I think it'll be great to have Kim Jong-un join G well not talking about un but I'm talking about she oh Figured this out

1:35:47 And they're gonna do it, but they're gonna make it so that's an event. So there is going to be discussed a lot when something gets discussed to excess on the mainstream media It's like what is going on here? Are we being played again? Yeah thats a good point. President Trump sat down with your friend Kristen Welker over at NBC It was kind of interesting because on one hand it was about the January 6th commission and how they destroyed all the evidence, and then he gave her career advice.

1:36:35 Have you seen this? I saw most of it. I did not watch the thing from beginning to end and I figured you'd get some clips from it Yeah, just have one but I the clips I didn't like it because they well He steamrolled her for the most part, which she should do because she's full of shit. She's terrible! She is a lousy interviewer and very biased and I don't like her and she is extremely hard to watch because of her hands. You ever...and people condemn me for pointing this out but once you notice her hands... You're a hand-hater!! They are the hands of old black laborers. They are man hands and they were horrible looking

1:37:16 And once you see them, they're burned in your brain and it's hard to watch her because you can't not look at her hands or just like whoa. Now listen this was a committee...a big deal They lied. And what did they do? They deleted and destroyed a whole year-and-a-half worth of testimony I think those people committed a major crime, and Cheney was behind it So is Benny Thompson and everybody on that committee For what they did Honestly, they should go to jail Uh oh! So you think Liz Cheney should go to jail

1:37:55 Just remember, unselect committee. A year and a half of sworn testimony and after getting all of the testimony they deleted it wait... And they destroyed almost everything there's nothing left It's unprecedented. And they deny doing that? If you do that in a civil case, you go to jail You know they deny doing that? You have such potential... if you could be just- If you could just fix the hands Just non biased. You hurt yourself so badly I'm telling you They deleted and destroyed all of the evidence Everyone knows it

1:38:36 And you slough it off like it doesn't mean anything. No, I'm just saying they deny it that's all I am saying Listen if I did it You would be standing up in that chair shouting at me and you know what I'd do? I say...You got me They have done something so illegal They have a committee sworn to and because It was so bad the only reason they did is because the testimony turned out in favor of me. They got rid of it because it made Nancy Pelosi, the mayor of DC so many people look like criminals I like you have so much potential

1:39:15 That's really funny. Yeah, yeah Let me give you some advice you got so much potential You really should reconsider what you're doing it really doesn't make any sense here Well that reminds me of a clip which I have which is kind of ancillary but same thing this is Jesse waters. Yeah Just the water then this is a discussion of media collapse because he he plays a clip of Leslie Stahl and you know, spilling her guts in some interview with I think the columnist. I can't remember her name offhand of The New York Times columnists, I believe and but she's there going on and on about how the media is falling apart And then and i think Jesse has a real interesting point.

1:40:00 these sorts of clips necessarily because it's you know these guys Fox but let's play this clip because it's similar to the advice that you just heard. Legacy Media is on life support CNN just lost to the Food Network People would rather see veal scallopini being prepared than wolf blitzer. And inside of the newsrooms, they've accepted defeat! If you watch the opinion of us how many people trust the press anymore? I mean we're way down there with the lawyers. This is really rough as you know You're way down there with Congress. I despair

1:40:39 Seriously, I worry greatly. We're at a point where if the President of the United States is going to say legacy media is dead. Well, I guess Musk said that legacy media is dead and he wants it done he wants other media but but it is kind of sort of hobbling right now and I don't know how it recovers. I'm very just I'm very dark about it. Mm hmm. Well Biden just pardoned Hunter for what was on the laptop that Leslie Stahl said was fake And Leslie doesn't know how the media recovers Retire, Leslie. With all due respect you're the reason why. I love he's basically Jesse Watters is basically the dog that sitting at the table with a coffee cup and fire all around him saying this is fine He's right in the middle of it and uh... You won't like this I don't like it YouTube TV is raising its prices

1:41:38 You and I both use YouTube TV. Okay, YouTube TV which is a recommend as a tip of the day It was kind of, I think it was wasn't it? Might have been. Should be But its a great product for the simple reason that has virtual DVR capability Forever! Forever DVR capability as seems Well they only know 90 days to keep recording Right but you can record anything you want You can record every channel You can record everything Yeah You can literally record every channel all the time if you wanted to. I mean, you don't want that because then he can't find anything but because you got too many recordings but it records all is just records and records like a maniac in this and it does a very good job of it and makes it worth it cause you save cuz you watch everything on delay that means you have to watch any commercials and is just a great product and they have they have a good

1:42:35 They give you Turner Classic Movies, ESPN. You have all the Fox, you got all the CNN and everything but I remember when I first... I subscribed to it years ago when it first came out because it's better than cable and the DVR thing really impressed me It was like 49 bucks And then they go oh you want HD? You gotta pay another 10 bucks Well the HD is pretty cool so I got that Not HD! I'm sorry 4k yes, you can pay an extra 10 bucks for a 4k so there's a lot of 4k content and you get that mostly sports And you just another tell case and I wrapped a 59 bucks in the audit of blue. They change on a 69 bucks, and then I think it's 79 now. I don't know what it is they keep jacking it up. It's I think they're losing my money on the products. Yes! Its 7299 and as of January 13th that goes to 8299 Yeah, its just keeps going up. And thats plus... sure thats still have to pay the extra 10 buck for 4K Oh that..I haven't seen about them That might become 15 bucks

1:43:39 That could be. They just keep jacking it up and jacking it up It's a good service, but now its really getting pricey See the problem they have... There is no alternative Well first of all they are paying carriage fees that's the problem They're paying carriage fees. They have to pay every single network just like cable companies did and I think they have a technical issue, although i don't want to say that I know anything better than the technicians and engineers at Google but when it comes to Netflix you know Netflix they have servers in storage at the head ends of every single data center so... So is Google? Yeah but its still streaming TV

1:44:21 So it's not... Google, yes. Google doesn't have it for the streaming service I'm pretty sure No that's my point But Netflix and the rest of them don't have it for their streaming either they have it for specific shows Yeah and they did streaming one time and they found out how hard it is with a Tyson fight with a Tyson Paul fight So the YouTube, I think it's a very expensive product for them to offer. Yeah they may be losing money on it. I've always thought they were losing money on YouTube but now them now they have so much in ad revenue I guess is not possible But I think that the YouTube and if people want to check it out as TV dot youtube.com And you can take a look at it anyway, but it's going up is just go yeah Go up everything keeps going up oh I'll throw in a couple of AI News bits here

1:45:17 AI continues to stumble and be a problem, very big problem. According to core developers from both Python and curl significant amounts of time are now being taken up not developing new features, not fixing bugs but dealing with as they put it slop AI bug reports and security vulnerabilities that aren't real. That are simply hallucinations of artificial intelligence where people are using AI to scan the code of projects like Python and CURL and

1:45:55 saying, hey AI system find me a security vulnerability at which point the AI systems by and large say oh yeah I found one all right and provide what looks like a very real set of AI vulnerabilities based on the code The user then copies that, pastes it into a bug report hits send and clogs up the work. So instead of fixing actual bugs, instead of doing real security research, instead of adding new features to the software that underpins our very lives, Decor developers are now spending a significant amount of time trying to figure out which reports are just AI generated slop

1:46:36 Yeah, I think this is great. More of that please more! I want all of it to be filled with slop so some joker on X asked Grok the following question what does Adam Curry co-hosts of No Agenda think about AI? Well what do you think that what do you think Grok said? I wouldn't have a clue what Croc... What Kroc said. Well first of all, Kroc output a lot of information which I'm not going to read it all because that's what AI does that's part of the parlor trick. Yeah its obfuscates Yes its dumbness with lots of words based on the available information Adam Curry co-hosts of The No Agenda podcast has not explicitly detailed his thoughts on AI in the context of his podcasting or media work

1:47:30 However, we can infer some perspectives from related activities and statements. Now listen to this! Curry has shown interest in AI through projects like the Collective Consciousness app and his involvement with the Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research Lab where he explored consciousness and its interaction with technology including AI. What? I didn't know I was a part of that This suggests an interest in how AI might interact with or affect human consciousness, or vice versa. How about that?

1:48:07 Holy moly! Nobody knew that you were involved with this stuff at that level. His discussions on consciousness, reality and technology as seen in his other projects show a philosophical approach to AI he might be interested in whether AI can achieve or simulate consciousness Or how it might challenge our understanding of reality themes that resonate with some of the more speculative topics that he and John C. Dvorak touch upon In summary, while Adam Curry hasn't specifically outlined his thoughts on AI... Really? Within the No Agenda podcast context. Really?!

1:48:46 His broader work which including the pair lab his broader work indicates an interest in AI from the perspective of consciousness technology technological innovation and philosophical inquiry He likely views a I with both curiosity for its potential and caution regarding as broader implications on society consciousness and media What a grok of crap Wow Wow Are you really amazed at this horrible? Analysis by well I'm surprised it went on and on like that because obviously an intermixed you with somebody named Adam Curry That happened to be there's just this is no good. It's not even close III don't understand how bad it can be

1:49:34 I mean, and they have my tweets. My slashes... They've got all of that stuff! I like the way they do it though. It's done in an authoritative manner. If i was in college and I was a numb nuts who couldn't write and I started using AI, I can see where a professor could be taken aback. Oh yeah this guy sounds like he knows what he's talking about. This has gotta be real... By the way people always bitch about this in colleges you know those kids are taking advantage of the... The fact is in real testing environments in college we used to do what was called a blue book test that means you'd go in and have these things called blue books they were little books

1:50:18 and you were given the test live, and you had to write your essay in the blue book. You couldn't use anything. You weren't turning anything in. You were doing a live blue-book test You still can't get around that. I would say that if you had people, they were essays during the year, you take these essays and then give a blue book exam at the end and you compare notes see what this guy writes in the blue book and see what he sends in his... using AI. Why was the book blue? He's an idiot! They were called Blue Books and they were like a little it was like a little pamphlet-like thing, it was just that flimsy little... And on the outside it had a blue cover and it said Blue Book on it I have no idea why this came about. I don't even know if they still use blue but somebody out there who is going to college tell me if they still do these

1:51:14 Use these blue books, but that was a cow they were blue book. They're called Blue Book tests Well if you can't you can't fake them it really doesn't matter because it's all over for AI Alphabet shares jump 6% after Google touts breakthrough with quantum chip Oh brother yes, that's him yeah I read about this money also prove there's dimensions in the universe In fact, it did a calculation that I'm just highlighting the summary here. It did a calculation that can only be done because it went into some interdimensional galaxy and that was...I guess somebody picked up hey what's this? We got a message here from this other dimension well let's give him the answer Bill and then send it back to the chip

1:51:59 to some quantum mechanism. Oh, please! Yes Google's Willow Quantum chip has solved a problem that would have taken the best supercomputer a quadrillion times the age of the universe to crack and how could you know? Yeah exactly That's always the question How do you know? You know what's next Yeah, Google's gonna crack Bitcoin. Yeah that's next Well, that would be funny if it happened back to AI I do have an AI clip I'm gonna throw in all right is the Apple AI for Christmas Drugmaker Apple is hoping that adding more a I to its latest iPhone offerings will pump up sales

1:52:38 during the busy holiday shopping season. Apple offering a new software update for its latest models and includes a feature that lets users create customized emojis. Wow, really? Wow! The software comes as Apple is playing catch-up in the AI space Good edit I like it Let me hear that again. That was good! That's an ISO actually, let me hear that. Wow dude really? Wow So that's a flop and I can tell you because the New York Zoomer for Christmas requested a wait for it... A refurbished iPhone 13 small version

1:53:24 did not want the newest iPhone. No, no I want the small one. I want it to be the 13 that had the specs and knew exactly what she wanted they're not new anymore so now just take a refurbished one likes the size doesn't use it for all is not interested in AI Apple intelligence. Well that a apple AI thing is a joke it's again making the best they can do is design emojis I mean what kind of AI are we talking about? But you know Google's willow can design an emoji a million, quadrillion times faster so... Yes right And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage saying good morning to you the man who put the C in quantum computing say hello to my friend on the other end the one and only Mr John C DeVore

1:54:10 Good morning to you, Mr. Hammond. Karina Marni's ships are the sea and the boots of the ground and feet in the air... ...and the subs in the water, the dames and knights out there! Hello there trolls! Good morning to you! You know what? Everyone tuned-in for the Hot Luigi talk. 2067 which is good for a Thursday it's above average yeah so it's 200 plus above normal It's above average everyone's checking Yeah because they wanted a hot luigi That's what everybody... I just want a hot Luigi. A hot Luigi, which I learned Hot Luigi before they caught him was categorized as DL Trade. I know that was the silence i made as well when I heard it said DL. Sorry and let me what? Okay DL capital D capital L for down low which means he's gay

1:55:10 Trade means he's hot. So he's a closeted, hot gay guy that's DL trade There's a lot of gay... not memes but TikTok posts and others that are all funny from different gay guys making a pass at him Really? Oh tell me you brought some of those I didn't, I have the girls mostly because the girls are funnier. The guys they're singing so okay well I can get him for the next show Sunday and bring some in but my favorite one is the McDonald's guy he supposedly at McDonalds and he's playing doing a shtick it was kind of comedy act but he's super gay and making a pass at Luigi, he was there to counter

1:55:55 It's very funny. I mean of all the TikTok clips, I want to see and then you don't bring him! I mean this was your opportunity... I'm not a mind reader. I don't know that you're that interested in the gay TikTok clips? I know what YOU'RE interested in! What?! No.... I just... What? When I see it, I know it. You know like how John will like this. I'm always thinking about you and you're just thinking about yourself. Look at the gay...I had them. I've been looking at them and I'm thinking they're just gonna be tough Okay, I'll bring the best ones two of them for the next show DL trade there we go There we go. I never heard that term. Oh, I hadn't either It was the DL part I got but trade I didn't know I didn't know and now it's like

1:56:41 Now the same... By the way, quick question. So there's a picture of him in the mountains hiking now he's got such a bad back he's had it since as kid yeah bad back horrible back oh I mean I almost turned gay and like look at this guy how do you get abs like that with a bad back? I'd like to know! You have to do crunches you gotta do all kinds of different things to get abs like that Yeah Dad i don't get it I don't see how you can have a bad back and have those those abs. You get the feeling that something doesn't add up? Something doesn't add up! In addition, you know now the kids are all saying Hot Luigi is a distraction during enrollment season

1:57:30 Which I thought was interesting. Enrollment for what? Oh, for the marketplace your health care marketplace is enrollment between now and December 15th to January 15th. Oh! I don't know why or how that plays in but i'm just just passing it on you never know sometimes the kids know things anyway uh you are listening to The No Agenda Show this is where we thank people for supporting us in many different ways time talent or treasure um now The trolls that we just counted, they're in the troll room. You can join their trollroom.io which has been a great part of Time and Talent Void Zero's had that thing open for 15 years at least you can jump in there and hang out use the Modern Podcast app Which by the way if you want the Modern Podcast app get it today because on Monday you'll be able to follow along live with Adam Curry's Boostergram Ball Live from Antones in Austin Texas with five of the best bands in the universe

1:58:27 And you can follow it live in video on some of them even. So, you want to get one of those now! But back to the time and talents and treasure portion... We always thank the artists who brought us the artwork for the previous episode we love having fresh art it's one of these staples of this show we've been doing that since very early on not many podcasts can do this because it's hard It's hard to get art but we have producers who are pros as some are prompt jockeys, but there's always a selection. We can always find something that we at least find acceptable. They're not always great sometimes they get knocked out of the park but we do want to review the art and thank the artists who did it for the previous show was 1719 was the episode titled Pod Roll and Coob the boob scored another one coop has this is like two in uh 2 in a month I think for Coob the boob there was it wasn't perfect

1:59:23 But this was the no agenda viral protein bottle. Now with raw milk, it had the typical 33 ounces You would want it to have some more drop shadow or to have the positioning differently. Yeah, or something a little more dimensional. The shadow would've been good. There's a lot of issues with it. I mean he did a good job on the label. Of course there was a violation which is the spike protein. That is an old rule violation. But it had a happy face on it so that could put up with...I like pot roll better!

2:00:00 and use it on the newsletter. Yeah, but I just felt like it was a little out of context who knows what a pothole is? A little bit but he had...it was really a well-done AI woman yeah that's Scaramanga trademark have you seen his end of year movie that he did no about an apocalyptic scene it's probably about six or seven minutes At Walmart never turns into a zombie and no I have not seen this. It's already good Oh, yeah is pretty good. Yeah, maybe you can listen in they send me a link I don't know how he did that but it said it's impressive Bored I don't like the ending though as it ends with Jesus Christ smoking a doobie was like dude since that was unnecessary Everything else about it was your critic? Hi. Yeah, I'm a critic of that yeah

2:00:51 But otherwise it was well done. I wonder what system he used for that and if that's free or if that's 20 bucks a month you can get that kind of output? No, nothing does that stuff is free but its not expensive they're still losing money They must be yeah It's all gonna end Horowitz called me Last night. Yeah, I taught I told him that you uh...I said something to him No he calls me and right before dinner. He says hey how you doing? Hey Andrew what's going on? He says Dvorak says you're pissed at me as they what About what he couldn't remember I'm like I'm not pissed at you if I'm pissed at y'all pick up the phone But I've never been mad at him so your like you're like Stoking things up for no reason here. It was funny about it well

2:01:40 What's funny about it? Here is what is funny about it. I said, yeah you know he said, yeah haven't talked to Adam for awhile so yeah I know he's pissed at ya. He says, what? No he's not. He says you're just a troublemaker and calls me out. Yes that is what you are, trouble maker. He calls me out and says you're the typical troublemaker so then I guess he bought it enough to call you. That's hilarious! You got under his skin, you did. Again proving my methodology works I just wanted you two to talk. Of trolling, you mean? You're just a troll is what you are yeah your trolling works Yeah so we're gonna talk on Saturday because he called during dinner What do you want to talk about? The fish he caught

2:02:29 Oh, he's got some whoppers recently. He got like a marlin or something the other day! Yeah, 200 pound blue marlin that took six guys to reel in and sent me a picture of it. It was enough to eat for a year. Don't they throw those back though on those fishing trips? Some of them they throw back some of them they don't I always feel bad when they get a sailfish you're not gonna eat a sailfish. Sailfish is not tasty is it I don't think so. I think they throw sailfishes back, but the marlins i'm pretty sure they eat. It's like tuna? They eat a wahoo, I know that and there's a couple other fishes and I keep telling them to pack freeze a couple pieces of send them off in dry ice for me. I'd like to have some of that fish. Those game fish on the east coast you can't get out here under any circumstance no way

2:03:17 They all ran away from the libtards. It's like, you know trying to find good venison I mean I would you have to have a hunter friend and then you do elk Wow or moose That's that's a tough go we had gotta find some of this shoots moose Have you ever had? beef from Perini ranch in Texas No, and I haven't had... What is the name of that animal you're supposed to eat down there? That is extinct. Oryx? Oryx that you have yet to experience and even if you've been in Texas for a decade? No, I've had it! The oil baron got it we talked about it. NO! Yes! Well look, I didn't get a chunk- Oh no, I'm sorry that was Neil Guy. You're right, Neil Guy similar to oryx Yeah but it wasn't oryx Excuse me

2:04:03 I'll send you some armadillo beef. You'll like it. I don't want armadillo All right, let's look at the rest of this art because i don't think there was much else you kind of liked the alien by darren o'neal Yeah, he did aliens. I was gruesome. It was gruesome. I don't want it which is the gruesome violation? I kind of like cash's goat yogurt I like that too because of the googly eyes. I thought that was funny um And the rest is just a bunch of AI robots. I mean, that's why stop it and people keep doing that. Let me look at now we have flying saucers everyone thinks oh they want drones flying so every single piece except for you know every single piece That i see here is stupid ai that has been submitted so far what's uh? Well no It's smart Ai but there is a couple p-i There's a piece there i like

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2:12:58 I don't know. It's what made it stink? I don't know, but it just bad oil. It stayed in the car. I don't know. I'm never gonna eat it again Maybe a burger fall under this chair the seat there That's what I thought checked no There was nothing fell under their seat I checked and I have one of those handy pockets that was your tip of the day So it would have fallen right into the pocket and not under the seat Oh, that's nice. Linda Lou Patkins up in Lakewood Colorado 200 bucks jobs karma she wants this Christmas gives Yeah, you know I was gonna blow through this again. I'm gonna scratch. I'm gonna go no mistakes mistake free here We go here we go jobs karma this Christmas give the gift of a faster more effective job search Go to image makers Inc comm that's imagemakers inc with a K or contact Linda Lou Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes and help a loved one with resumes that get results jobs jobs jobs and jobs

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2:15:39 We hit people in the mouth Yes, thank you everybody for sending me the the jingles Suffering in the shadows and dying in the dark I have them now so you can request them and as a reminder You can support the show by going to no agenda donations calm Let me see. Oh, go ahead you go. I gotta get these out of this. There's some old ones here. I want to get communism in schools? This is interesting!

2:16:21 House lawmakers held a hearing on the crucial communism teaching act. The bill would add a national high school curriculum to teach the dangers of communism One proponent of the bill says 25% of Gen Z students hold a favorable view of the ideology NTD correspondent Jason Blair brings us the latest Oh man, we think it's great! Communism rocks! It is the best What could possibly go wrong? Wow That reason for those clips by the way was for that little factoid. Oh yeah, alright and there's a second bit here where it gets even worse I'm sure?

2:16:57 That's pretty bad, but go on. The Crucial Communism Teaching Act was heard by the Committee on Rules on Tuesday that's when the amendments were chosen to be included with the bill then on Wednesday afternoon more arguments were made before those amendments and rules get voted in the House Mr Speaker a report recently found nearly half of Gen Z students are unaware that the Chinese Communist Party is responsible for more deaths than Nazi Germany A quarter of Gen Z students hold a favorable opinion of communism and nearly 20% think that communism is the better system of government than capitalism. I guess the Republicans want us to spend time debating whether high school students should be taught that communism is bad The last time I checked, most schools already do that

2:17:47 and and understand that one-and-a-half billion people still suffer under communism. The final version is expected to go to the House for a final vote later this week." Well, that's interesting because I have a clip that pairs with this although approaching it from the opposite angle from a TikToker or how do you know? Although when I do TikTok, I bring good quality audio

2:18:33 This is from a guy named Therapy Jeff. Have you seen Therapy Jeff in your travels? Not yet. Therapy Jeff says this... You may not know it, but living under capitalism is damaging your mental health The overwhelming feeling of competition, the scarcity mindset, the loneliness and no self-worth can all be tied back to living in a capitalist society. In this video I want to help you understand that therapy, self-help and self improvement may not be able to improve your mood or peace of mind due to the constant pressure of capitalism. At the end of the video I'll go over a few things that you can start doing in order to cope with

2:19:10 negative mental and emotional effects that you might be feeling. Now he's about to do a read for an ad, Therapy Jeff what do you think the ad is for? Bitcoin? Before we dive in, I'm Jeff Gunther a licensed professional counselor in Portland Oregon and this video is brought to you by TherapyDen.com Go to TherapyDen.com to find a progressive and accepting therapist near you By using the over 140 search filters And I would love it if you supported this video by clicking that like button right now What are the chances you call up his sponsor and they tell you that your boy

2:19:49 I'm telling you this is, this should be outlawed. This practice of a licensed therapist... Promoting therapy with progressive therapists? Therapy should not be progressive or conservative. It's therapy! Who knows what they're doing to your kids? Yes, I think you nailed it here that's a good point but i want to mention something else from both clips. Capitalism is not a governing system Oh, communism is a better system of government than capital. No! We're a republic with the governing system is a democratic Republic constitutional Republic capitalism and is an economic system that works underneath the governing system These guys get this all mixed up Yeah I don't understand why they can't make that simple distinction

2:20:43 disconnect. It doesn't make sense. It's easy to remember capitalism is stablecoin, remember your future in capitalism is stablecoin it's gonna be amazing what's going to happen the stable coin nonsense its coming John, it's coming all right what do you got? I have important things we have boots on the ground from the constitutional lawyer and You remember he said it was going to be like Bonfire of the Vanities when it comes to Diddy, Diddy Stein. And lo and behold, um... He was not wrong! He mentioned that there was another person who is going to be named in uh....

2:21:33 In these Diddy lawsuits, remember this is all coming from the Texas lawyer Busby who he's familiar with. Most lawyers know who Busby is He's not just any old ambulance chaser he's a pretty serious guy and very successful and well we know who it is Tonight rapper Jay-Z is firing back against allegations that he sexually assaulted then 13 year old with Sean Diddy combs after the 2000 VMAs The newly amended civil lawsuit, originally filed by a Jane Doe in October now identifies celebrity A as Jay-Z whose legal name is Sean Carter claiming that he and Diddy drugged and raped a 13 year old girl at an after party.

2:22:11 And that a female celebrity stood by and watched as Combs and Carter took turns assaulting the minor. Combs and Jay-Z, who were both 30 at the time, were in attendance of The Award Show that year. Combs has previously denied all allegations. Today, Jay Z filed to dismiss the lawsuit calling it a cynical and calculated campaign to force payment of an exorbitant sum of money The rapper vehemently denies the allegations, taking direct aim at the plaintiff's attorney Tony Busby writing what he has calculated was the nature of these allegations in the public scrutiny would make me want to settle. Noting concern for his wife, music icon Beyonce and their three children who are 12 and 7 years old. My wife and I will have to sit our children down one of whom is at the age where her friends will surely see the press and ask questions about the nature of these claims Attorney Tony Busby is standing as ground writing I won't be bullied or intimidated people will see through this effort to discredit me and my clients and the truth will be revealed

2:23:08 Yay, season of reveal. There it is a lot is happening with this there are lawyer We have to we have to remember that Busby and we had the clip Buzz B came out and said there's a bunch of people that he's going to tell him to settle Mm-hmm And he's not gonna reveal who they are unless they don't settle so this is kind of like sketchy well That's the lawsuit that Jay-Z has filed against Busbee, and there are many, many lawsuits going back and forth. All kinds of people are coming out of the woodwork against Busbee. You can read the constitutional lawyers rundown because I love Rob because he has time to do this He's keeping us if you want to really know what's happening, which you will not get from any media Just go ahead into the show notes and look under Diddy Stein And you'll see I mean there's a lot A lot of different lawsuits going back and forth in a lot of allegations

2:24:08 But this has been bubbling under for a long time and the 2000 Video Music Awards there were a lot of interesting people there. This is when Diddy was still dating J-Lo Aaliyah was still alive I mean this whole thing is a big mess, and we'll see what happens, but Jake they should just blow it all out Hey when they need a distraction they will because that's all we'll ever be able to talk about Yeah, yeah that's probably true. I have an amusing clip. You know NPR has good stuff every once in a while but then every once in awhile there is a bunch of idiots that come on NPR What do you mean? It's all the clips we have of NPRs with idiots Well not like idiot clips Oh okay This is a classic example of idiot clip Robert! You will never guess where I was last week

2:25:05 I heard you were inside the Chicago Federal Reserve Bank. I imagine there are piles of money everywhere Not that they let me infiltrate, but i was there to moderate a panel and they didn't want me recording any Fed business though I was able to sneak a little voice memo off The catering spread Oh my goodness! The catering spread really? It's just the voicing and the whole thing in the way they do it now Pete Hegseth is doing a The same kind of thing Patel is doing his he's going around from place to place to promote Himself and then batting his eyes at the ladies and getting involved. Okay, Pete you're pretty good-looking but NTD

2:25:59 I have two clips here. I have the Hegseth progress clip, but at the very beginning this is a three-second clip Tell me that the NTD girl doesn't say pig Another one of Trump's nominees his defense secretary pick Pete Hegseth Yeah This is exactly what Stephanie Rule did twice Here it is. Pete votes Meanwhile Pete Hegseth That's once and here's the second time We'll have a conversation about rationality What do you think about Pig? Pete Hegseth. It seems to be a thing they all want to say pig Hegseth Spreading it's a tongue, it is it hits contagious All right well yeah so hard to say Pete I guess another one of Trump's nominees his defense secretary pick Pete Hegseth Lock in that much-needed support from Senate Republicans today apparently has meeting with Senator Susan Collins went well how about

2:26:55 How significant was this meeting? Right. Well, Collins did not indicate either way how she'll vote there but she said and so did Hanks that they did have a very good and productive meeting on this is a very important meeting to have as moderate Republican along with some others that he's been trying to win their support remember he can only lose three Senate Republican votes assuming that all Senate Democrats vote against him and still when the confirmation Assuming that JD Vance would cast that tie-breaking vote. Here they both are after meeting earlier today, watch I had a good substantive discussion that lasted more than an hour We covered a wide range of topics

2:27:38 I obviously always wait until we have an FBI background check and one is underway in the case of Mr. Hegseth. It was a great meeting with Senator Collins, and again at office after office having the opportunity to spend time with these senators who have invested their careers in ensuring that our war fighters get what they need has been an amazing educational process. When do these confirmation hearings take place typically? Well, not until after he's president. Right but is it right away or I mean because... I just want to plan my life because it's gonna be hours of C-SPAN and there's going to be all kinds of annoying stuff

2:28:37 It's gonna be forever. I think Fetterman is going to vote on the Republican side. Fetterman turns out to be a very entertaining fellow! Yeah, and Fedderman just joined Truth Social. And he's posting there... Great! That have been turns out to be a pretty funny dude. Here's the story that that isn't getting I mean, um It's been discussed of course but with everything going on here in America, I mean we've got drones as big as buses We've got all kinds you know, we have were shooting CEOs This is kind of floated under the wire what's happening in Canada effectively

2:29:16 effective immediately, 324 unique makes and variants of what the government calls assault style firearms are now prohibited. All newly banned models have semi-automatic action and sustained rapid fire capability. And government officials confirmed Thursday these guns can no longer be legally used or sold in this country. Our goal is to ensure that no community No family is devastated by mass shootings in Canada again. These firearms join the list of more than 1,500 types of firearms Prime Minister Justin Trudeau banned the sale and use of in 2020 as was the case four years ago The government is offering owners and retailers of these newly outlawed guns amnesty until October 2025 while officials finalize a national buyback program

2:30:09 Wow, Canada. That's kind of sad What is sustained rapid fire? Like... I mean they're single shot, I mean they're semi-automatic I have no idea. I don't know what sustain means, you keep... your finger wears out? But this is..I don't think this is a good idea Canada shouldn't... No, Canada's never had a second amendment they don't care yeah the Trudeau he's trying to look like a tough guy now you know says ever since Trump said we should probably make you the 51st state

2:30:47 Which is just trolling and hilarious. So he's trying to be tough guy, not really doing a good job of it. No it shouldn't be that way! It wasn't supposed to be that way We were supposed to be on a steady if difficult sometimes march towards progress And yet, just a few weeks ago the United States voted for a second time to not elect its first woman president. Everywhere women's rights and women's progress is under attack overtly and subtlety but I want you to know that I am and always will be a proud feminist You will always have an ally in me and in my government First lady of Canada Justin Trudeau everybody

2:31:32 Proud feminist. Proud feminist Justin with his lisp! First lady of Canada from now on that's his title. Come on, Justin I'm a proud feminist... That guy is a loser and then the Canadians keep voting him in they're gonna vote him out this time they say so there was a trial amidst the CEO hot Luigi killing of the subway vigilante, who subdued and choked and then subsequently choked out and killed a for all intents and purposes. And according to eyewitnesses and people who were hurt by him, a deranged lunatic

2:32:17 And so he got off not guilty, he walks away a free man. and wouldn't you know it, so called because there is no more Black Lives Matter organization this guy's a phony BLM leader but he's getting a little bit of air time It's like everybody else has vigilantes we need some black vigilantes That's right People want to jump up and choke us and kill us for being loud. How about we do the same when they attempt to oppress us? I'm tired, looking for us to be like, Oh go in March going much no this weekend. I want you to hold a community event

2:33:08 Everywhere from the Bronx to Houston, to Seattle, to Florida. Black people hold community events and talk about what you need." Yeah... And there's been some protests has been some marches I hope it doesn't this is so destructive this particular type of event This was not-this is not the guy to go after or you know the case It just doesn't make sense And I was, and then you got, I think it was Crump. Was it Crump who was out there with the father? The father's crying. It's like come on man! The guy he wasn't... He was a lunatic and the father I didn't guess he didn't care about him when he was running around like homeless yes not as well I mean can't blame him for being homeless but don't pretend like you care now yeah well that whole thing is typical New York's a mess

2:34:08 Yeah, it should have nothing this would have even showed up if it wasn't for that idiot district attorney and brag Bragg yeah, maybe he's trying to make points. Yeah info were wars has been scuttled Yes, yes This is I got this clip as well a bankruptcy judge has blocked satirical news outlet the onion from buying Alex Jones's InfoWars media platform last month a court appointed trustee said the onion won the auction to acquire the parent company of info Wars which was sold off as part of a defamation settlement After Jones falsely called the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre a hoax. The onions bid was backed by the families of eight victims of the school shooting and one first responder Alex Jones sued, the trustee and Sandy Hook families in an effort to prevent the sale. The bankruptcy judge for the Southern District of Texas cited concerns with the auction process yesterday saying money was left on the table

2:35:07 In a statement, an attorney for the Connecticut families said they are disappointed in the decision. It's not clear what happens next for InfoWars. Jones still owes more than $1 billion to Sandy Hook victims' families. This is kind of crappy reporting because they make it sound like you can't say something is a hoax? Which you can under First Amendment because this was not, you know... This was a case where the family sued for damages because of, honestly I think a lot of things that Jones did not do or that they blamed him for like people calling families and harassing them which is not great but it's a civil case.

2:35:50 and they make it sound, you know they just make it sound like you better shut up. You better not say anything and they kind of obfuscate the onion and they obfuscate the buyer on the other side do you know who actually bid the three-and-a-half million dollars on Jones's behalf? I once knew Well, here's a different report. Onion, which had planned to relaunch InfoWars as a parody site bid one and three quarter million dollars in cash plus other incentives while the company that sells nutritional supplements in Jones's name offered 3.5 million. The decision means Jones can stay at his InfoWars headquarters in Austin and Jones quickly went back on the air to applaud the judge's decision Christopher Maddy, a lawyer for the Sandy Hook families said they were disappointed in the judges ruling but they are as determined as ever to hold Jones and his businesses accountable for the harm he caused

2:36:53 Courts have ordered Jones to pay nearly one and a half billion dollars in restitution for falsely calling the 2012 school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut a hoax. It's not that's not correct for falsely call... That's that's not correct but at least we know it was the boner pill guy. He like I that must have been a good business Yeah well Alex was selling a lot of pills And he wanted to keep him selling pills. He was the front man for this guy, so they bid one something million and all I can do is top that easy enough to do this in a week. Why don't we sell pills? We could be making killing on these pills! You know what, we're getting to the age where we can say hey i'm taking these pills and look at me yeah i'm still alive i'm doing great use code Bongino come on man it's an exit strategy

2:37:49 Yeah, I don't think so. I can call Alex's boner pill guy Can you imagine? Yes Actually yes i can Pod pills exactly pod pills the um Europe has this obsession with dying I'm sorry? Europe has this obsession with dying and assisted suicide, they're always doing the death pods. Remember that? Oh yeah. Getting the death pod and they're all like you know... Everybody always wants to die! And now Deutsche Welle had this crazy report on a Death Doula

2:38:34 Oh, jeez. Let's talk about death with Charlotte a death doula she is trained to support people through the process of dying What I find most touching is really being with dead people and taking care of them when I'm able to make sure that at least The exit of our world is good one. Charlotte took two tickets on Instagram aiming to break the taboo surrounding death and fielding all sorts of questions from her community. Experiencing in Germany a situation of death being put behind closed doors, we trust professionals with death my motivation is that when we can trust our instincts to be with our own dead and to empower ourselves Charlotte has just opened a funeral concept space in Berlin where she's exhibiting art dealing with death

2:39:24 like this installation, resembling a grave. And she showcases sustainable urns. The space is open to everyone who wants to engage with the topic. Starting to have a conversation with your fears around it makes life more meaningful that's why I would always recommend interacting with your fears around death She loves being with dead people she said it! I like being with the dead people and I like helping them What about their depression in Europe? I mean just look at them, what future do they have? I tell Christina all the time like leave there. Leave! Yes it's a theme of the show actually You need to leave there this is not good But they seem to be depressed... The culture as a whole ever since the EU became the EU This is when I think it started

2:40:15 Yeah, but once coffee... you know a cup of coffee used to be two guilders then it was two euros effectively double in price. They got nothing but asylum seekers run wild and the Ukrainians are parking their Range Rovers wherever they want to and getting free housing yeah people are tired of it but they don't have They don't have the will to really protest it. No, once you break down the nationalism... I mean at one point people were proud to be Italians and they're proud to be whatever country they are a part of and they had their own goods and services and they would do trade

2:41:06 Italian made something, it was special. Yeah now it's just a bunch of Chinese making bags. Now everything, the Chinese are coming in the back door and everything is made in China. When I went to, when I was last time I was in Madrid they went to one of these farmers markets on Sunday and everyone People that were there complaining everything or somebody a local I was hanging out with he said everything here is made Spanish don't make anything anyway. These are all Chinese goods being sold as handmade goods by Spanish but they're not. They're all crap from China that they are selling as middlemen. And the Dutch are basically one big accountant's office and post office, you know? Every single company in the world has a mailbox and they've got their accountants and lawyers and that is all that they are! Oh of course drug trade...the biggest drug pass-through country in the world. What are they going to be proud of?!

2:42:07 Tulips? I don't know and now we have this going on. This is the clip farmers in the UK Oh, now they're angry too? Hmm okay London packed with hundreds of tractors as farmers call on the British government to rethink an incoming tax They fear they will lose their family farms And warn that protests could get stronger if the government does not listen to their concerns NTD's international correspondent Malcolm Hudson has more from London I wish i could stand on a tract to show you just how many there are here. We're right next to Downing Street, the seat of government here in London and all the way from Parliament down there to Trafalgar Square right on the other end The road is filled with tractors Why? You might be asking because farmers are here

2:42:54 to stand in opposition to new inheritance tax the government seeks to impose upon them. So many tractors that they glitter like Christmas lights! It's the second major protest by farmers in Britain. Agricultural property is currently exempt from inheritance tax But Britain's government in October announced plans to bring in a 20% tax on land worth over £1 million or about $1.3 million It is due to start from April 2026 Protesters say the changes will ruin struggling family farms We're here to save my dad's farm So yes, yeah because if this all goes through My dad's quite elderly as well we're probably not going have time

2:43:38 leave it to my brother and my brothers actually helped my dad pay for the farm so yeah no it's not worked on it all our lives we are like I said our children yeah I mean what's like for the future farmers is said to be assets rich but cash pool yeah I've been following this you know what the issue is here yes a 20% tax on A 20% inheritance tax, which these guys don't have cash flow. They basically...they have a lot of valuable property but they subsidize? Well they're not rolling in dough let's put it that way so at 20 percent tax out of the blue if there's the old man dies let's say yeah and this is not affordable

2:44:24 And so they, and I think this is the takeover. Cargill wants to own the factory farms again we're talking about here? Correct and i think that it you know they say well you know this is only for rich farmers because... That's bull crap! Of course its bull crap! They said right there anything over 1.3 million dollars in property that's not that much No and they have quite a friend within Jeremy Clarkson The Top Gear guy Well, he became a farmer. That's going to do him! Well he has been getting... He has been out there talking a lot and he is getting a lot of coverage because he is standing up and you know he such a man of the people already You know? Because he said screw you BBC And he always running around making trouble and he has that farm show You know it has some reality show about his farm No I don't know that Yeah It's incredibly boring but at least I think its boring Lots of people think it's great show

2:45:22 We'll see. We'll see what happens. But you know, there's the same thing that is going on in Holland and other areas where they're trying to take over the farms? Yeah they want the farms! This is again this because of the EU. The EU is no good it has not helped Europe at all. It has made everything worse Last time, and for the what was the purpose of the EU? The idea was to put everybody together so you can make money to compete with the United States and So far as world trade's concerned. But it hasn't worked out No, it was to control people. What is the point? It was to control the people they just didn't know that they sold it as hey You won't need a passport and y'all have the same money And no one figured out that was not a good idea Yeah, so Andrew Ross Sorkin my last clip for today

2:46:08 He's the CNBC boy over there, Andrew Ross. Yes, New York Times stooge he is actually so he has this deal book conference which is turning into quite a thing it It's kind of like when Kara Swisher gave up her conference business and I don't know exactly why? I think it was good Was that all things D with Walt Mossberg and yeah, I think Mossberg just retired Yeah, she wasn't she's nothing without Mossberg. I think that's that's probably cuz he's a partner Yes She does so she and I Galloway doesn't want to do it, but I don't think he likes her actually But the money must be good on that podcast they keep boasting about it So I think this deal book conference is kind of taken over eat You know Elon famously showed up and said F you too Michael Eisner No um yeah the Disney guy did Eisener oh

2:47:01 But he said F you to all advertisers. Boycotting Twitter, but so the Sorkin boy had Alexandra from Call Her Daddy on Yeah, she's all made up. She's all made up! She has a very short mini skirt which is quite inappropriate and... I know she was just dressed in the 10s and looked like a whore It wasn't anything but it wasn't her normal look And she sounds kind of dumb There is little bit controversy about that podcast because you didn't do this Do you know what this? No way Because this interview happened in DC In a hotel

2:47:42 Yeah, not in a hotel. It was like a random house. It was like random house But apparently you can tell me they spent meaning The Harris campaign spent up like $100,000 I did about this it's hilarious the studio Not sure to make it look like it was the studio that you used in LA My studio that is gorgeous in Los Angeles doesn't even cost six figures. So I don't know how cardboard walls could cost six figures, but... But do you think they did that? Absolutely not! With love to them oh my god it was gorgeous but like it wasn't that nice It wasn't like gorgeous marble Like no that was not six figures Oh man this is the problem This kind of show

2:48:36 It wasn't like, it was gorgeous. It was like marble but it was gorgeous and I loved it. Yeah, I saw this clip go by. It was like condemning the Harris campaign for wasting money is what it amounted to Yes And I guess they just wasted so much money all over the place that has really turned off a lot of Democrat donors Tina made a good point She said where is our vice president? Is she not working for us anymore? Did she just give up and and where is home? Is she in the spa? What where is she we don't seem to have a vice president Thought that we're gonna have a president either for that matter And we have John's tip of the day on the way along with some great end-of-show mixes We have some good meetup. We got to meet up promo, we got some Meetups to talk about and

2:49:38 And we even have a night in today, I believe. But first we would like to thank all of our producers $50 and above who've supported this episode, Episode 1720. Okay let's start with Baronetess Elizabeth and Pookepsie New York 15103 She wanted some jobs karma and we but she's do a job reader what she says here. It's interesting during her 10th anniversary special We asked for some jobs karma, and we both landed major changes in employment Oh now we both need Karma again And we know because we know it works She wants some car will give you that yeah Yeah for sure You know with the Karma working at all you know you probably should have come in with more just not that I'm condemning you no

2:50:33 Viscount Sir Hugger of Kitties, our buddy in Zondam. Yes. Holland Netherlands he came in with 134 62 and he's got a birthday for himself then and he said He said something in Dutch here. Hey Adam, good morning! I'm happy with you guys. I've been an Earl for a long time now and have always had bad sleep. That's why there was some chaos. Three donations today were well-considered and meant and tomorrow is my birthday. So it says birthday... Today i think And he says he has been sleeping poorly and its a bit chaotic but he says that he did three donations today

2:51:15 So did he send three is that is that the no, he's got them. He's got two three It's at the top there you've got to addition Oh yes Okay yeah There he is get he did come in with eight oh eight and somewhere else with fifty four fifty four so what he's saying Is he should be an associate executive producer? but he just donated three separate times and I see that I see that he donated three separate times a But I guess that didn't quite come through on the... Well, it would have been added up and put into one. Usually that's what Jay would do. Yeah but he said- We'll move him up! Yeah we should because here is Sir Viscount of

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2:55:13 No agenda fudge, you know. There you go. Gary Ma in Woodland Hills is a $50 donor. Then we have here Stephen Ng and this is gonna be a night... I'm gonna have you read this after our finish to $50 donors. Gary Jackson in Waterton, Tennessee Jason DeLuzio and Miami Beach Leanne Shipley our buddy in Covington Washington Harry clan in Aledo Texas and last on the list is Walker Phillips in San Rafael California okay So I looked at no agenda merch calm and they're selling stickers for $5 a pop

2:55:58 And I don't think, I don't think i know anything about noagendashop.com but the thing about noagendashop.com is we know that they give a portion to the artists and I don't know if these are this person's own merch and also the shop from time to time will donate something to the show so I don't know it's a I'm on the fence about this well he'll see he'll he's going to write you a note explaining what he's up to okay just let us know what you're up to please no him yeah Adam curry dot yes So, Stephen Ng is in Box Elder South Dakota and his box is blue here on the spreadsheet. That means good news for him! ITM John and Adam with my donation on the December 11th... ...I should have donated enough to achieve knighthood and I would like to be knighted Sir 5 Ng

2:56:47 That's how I pronounce it, right? N-G 5-N-Ing of the Lander Valley. Yes sir! 5-ing. I'm 62 and i've been eating 95% carnivore for 2024 and have never felt better in my life both physically and mentally so at the round table I would like mutton that is a big fatty piece of mutton Here's wishing you and yours a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Be gods, he says! Be gods! Sir5ing. Wonderful thank you all very much thank you to everyone who came in under $50 for reasons of anonymity we will never read those and of course we have the sustaining donations

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2:58:25 Title changes, turning faces lately. Nice changes don't want to be a douchebag. Not exactly a title change but I've decided to play the jingle because Sir Robert Mullenweg should be known as Sir John Baptist Because when he became an incitemite last year He forgot to give us his preferred title So he says I'm going to get, I think I'm going to get one of them rings you got. Well yes, you should let us know and we'll send you off one of them rings go to knowledgeintherings.com thank you for correcting or not correcting us thank you for letting us know that you want it be known as Sir John Baptist and we appreciate that now we have Stephen Ng if you can get out your blade We have one singular knight today. The Ng Blade!

2:59:17 You counted it right and you took your time, which is how it works. It's all an aggregated amount over as many years as you need to reach knighthood status I'm very proud to pronounce the KB as Sir 5 Ng of the Lander Valley For you my friend we have hookers & blow rent boys in Chardonnay prostitutes & cigars cookies & vodka warm beer & cold women We have fish pie & fellatio redheads & rise beer & blunts We got Rubinettes Women in Rose Gates & Sake Vodka, vanilla, bong hits and bourbon sparkling cider escorts ginger ale and gerbils. We have breast milk and pablum and a big fatty piece of mutton!

2:59:55 And mead, as requested. Head over to noagenderrings.com give us your ring size there's a handy ring sizing guide right there and give us an address we'll send it off to you with the wax to seal your important correspondence because they are Cignet rings and a certificate of authenticity thank you again and welcome to the roundtable brand new night of The No Agenda Show! I do not have any meetup reports and we always like receiving them, but i can mention we have two meetups happening today. One at 6 30 the Denver Christmas Kwanzaa Kadunkah Meet up at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver Colorado

3:00:39 And underway now the fourth amygdala checkup. 733 is when it kicked off in Amsterdam, so they're probably toasty by now that's in Leiden actually Stadsbrauhaus and we expect a An inebriated report from them on Saturday, the South Jersey meetup. Brett's Revenge one o'clock at Miller Ale House in Mount Laurel Township New Jersey Flight of the Noah Gen to number 58 Leo Bravo does it again at 333 p.m.. At Boomtown Brewery in Los Angeles California, the Eagle Idaho Christmas Meetup at 4 o'clock in the Old State Saloon. That's a new location by the way in Eagle Idaho, The Old State Saloon on Sunday our next show ITM Brunch On The River near RVA this is the morning 1030am the Boathouse At City Point In Hopewell Virginia and also on Sunday the West Palm Beach Axe Throwing ah! This Is The Reiki Princess

3:01:35 The axe throwing at 2 o'clock in Grandview Public Market in West Palm Beach. Also on Sunday, the Black Hills No Agenda Meetup at 3 o'clock in Crow Peak Brewing Spearfish South Dakota and finally on Sunday the Indy NA Christmas Pitch-In meet up Southern style three o'clock and that is invite only this time. I think it's at Mark and Maria's house, Sir Mark de Maria of the Greenwood so you need to contact them for details and I believe I have a promo here from The Reiki Princess In the morning Florida producers, it's the Reiki Princess and I just wanted to personally invite you to our December To Remember meetup. It's our Game of Axes Meet Up where we'll be throwing axes and knives this coming Sunday December 15th at 2 p.m in West Palm Beach Florida will be right next to the Brightline Station if you did want to take the train but it's gonna be so much fun! We'll be throwing axes and knives all person would be drinking a lot of tequila So please come join us. Yeah, great combination.

3:02:34 Axes, knives and tequila. What could possibly go wrong? Hey, noagenemeetups.com to find the one near you! Man oh man. It's like a party! Ah, what a great idea. That's Florida for you. Tequila, axes, knives... it's the perfect combo Uh, again I'm kind of falling down on everything. I don't get this with you! Because i'm so too busy uh looking at the...the...you know the uh PSYOP season. I'm doing work yeah but there's clips there's end-of-show clips within those clips well how about this one? I think that thing is on the fritz huh?! On the fritz! I got it on the fritz. Oh yayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayayay

3:03:39 I think they're all good. Okay, let's start with end the end goodbye Okay Ok you didn't like that over it's alright. It's alright. I'm just saying it's better than mine here We go over the show is over now go home. No. Oh, I like that one a lot yeah Okay, another one I like is Yen No. Yeah no! No yeah! Now i'd like- The show's over now go home. I liked that one... okay? That's good for me And now everybody it's time for the moment you've all been waiting for It is John C Devorak's tip of the day Created by Dana Brunetti. And sometimes Adam. I'm not forgetting, where's your jingles? I didn't forget. It's coming it's coming Hollywood style. I didn't forget to do the jingles all right So my tip of the day today is and this is an irksome tip. Irksome tip everybody! Because if you remember Jambo Joe

3:04:41 Oh, our buddy who... Yes! Jambo Joe who at Admivio you mean? No Jambo Joe the guy who made the CBD and he's got the... Oh yeah! CBD sprays. Jambo Jim, Jambo Mike. Whatever happened to Jambo Joe? He is still around. Here is what happened. He was making his CBD stuff. He actually got put out of business by Rogan. NO! It wasn't that Rogan meant to put him out of business. But Rogan had a product that competed with him? No, no! Rogan plugged him swamped him with so much business. Yeah? Got the attention of the feds, he had some packaging violations... Oh no! He didn't put this thing here or move this there and so on and he had a bunch of stuff manufactured that he had to relabel everything and it became... Oh No! This is actually the problem with super success. And Rogan has to be careful about this. He became so successful overnight

3:05:42 That it put him out of business. Oh, that is so and he was he was rocking it I remember you know He's a great entrepreneur now if you remember him from 10 years earlier Hmm. He's the one who put together these snack packs Yes that he gave us both subscriptions to I forgot about this yeah And he would do a monthly snack pack and it was a bunch of screwball snacks that he dug up from around the country, and put them in a box and sent them out. It was called... He had a name for it. This guy is really talented! Entrepreneur. The thing about this CBD is really depressing because he had good product and in fact like a Rogan liked it. Did he's like maybe have some some CBD slash THC stuff going on? Maybe that was the problem

3:06:34 Well, he did definitely have some combos. Yeah yeah I remember this and you had... They were good they were high quality He also had like teeth pulling oil he had all kinds of stuff if i don't remember the teeth pulling oil but whatever So, tobacco's kind of a tribute to him even though these other companies and I believe it's only one company doing both these products. But there's two companies you should look into for Christmas giving. These guys do that they take in his idea and there's two websites one is Universal Yums, Universal Yums and the other one is Try the world.com

3:07:19 And these are both snack companies that find, they go to France and they put together a snack box of stuff. Weird snacks from France and you get that box the next month you get a box from Greece, the next month you get a box from North Korea. Costs about 25 bucks a box not cheap. Can't use code Bongino to get a discount? No I don't have any codes or anything but you can get 20% off today if you do the right search But these websites, these two websites are so similar that I have to believe it's the same company doing just marketing slightly differently. It's like test marketing is a very creative way to do things nowadays

3:08:01 Yeah, but these are worth the while if you like screwball snacks I mean if you go to like local like we have a Japanese store nearby and go there and get Japanese Snacks hmm And they're all entertaining. They're different or something You don't get any place else But these guys package them up for that now have you received the French snacks yet? Have you receive no? I've not done any of this. I just Looked over these sites. I found out about him as well This is a good idea, but it's a tip that you haven't tried I can see what it is. It's the same as Jambo did But what is a French snack? Is like caramel snails? No, you know...it's the same kind of candies and stuff yeah I mean it's on the site You can see what they are They list them very

3:08:46 You see what's going on. I think when it comes to tip of the day, it should be a tip that you or I have actually used. I mean...I don't think there is a rule like that. Well, you're making the rule up because you are irked at having tasted their French snacks! Yes, because I'm skeptical about the tastiness of the French snacks having been to France. This has been these products look good to me and I've had these snacks when I travel around the world lot of them I'm just surprised they don't have Swedish because Sweden seems to be the country with the most snacks. Well, I feel tip of the day should be something that you've used... Well people can judge for themselves if you want to take over this segment... No! I don't want to take over it! Then quit your complaining!

3:09:35 I want to know that...I don't wanna risk getting a crappy snack. No, you don't want to risk getting more notes. Hey! I tried this system it stinks John's full of shit! Adam at curry dot com Tipoftheday.net everybody This is brought to you by the maker of Fifty Shades Of Grey. Create advice for you and me Just The Tip with JC And sometimes, Adam... I have to do so many things now for this tip of the day. It's like actual work taking place. I'll make the jingle that works it out. Gotta credit Brunetti. You know gotta make sure that you're giving us tips that... I'm gonna get some of these French snacks and i'll see if I like them! And I don't want to take over this segment. It is a great segment John People are excited They listened all the way till the end of the show

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