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00:00 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak This is no agenda Turkey basting and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we all say Happy Thanksgiving and Go Lions! It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Who are the Lions? Is this the Oakland Lions? Yes, the Oakland Lions. What do they play? What does the Lions play? That must be a college team I don't know about the Lions. You don't need to know there is no reason for you to know...I'm with you Oh really?! You're with me!? Hey

01:02 You hear him? Hear the turkeys?! Here we go. We are ready for you all! I realize... this morning, just as uh.. The curry family tradition, and i think many families around America On Christmas, on Christmas Eve we all sit down and we read "'Twas the night before Christmas." And we read, "'Twas the night before Christmas an' all through the house not a creature was stirring—not even a mouse. All the stockings were hung by the chimney with care. Visions of St. Nicholas would soon be there," etcetera

01:41 So that is a tradition in America. For Thanksgiving? No, that is Christmas tradition I'm now saying for 17 years the tradition within no agenda nation within the household of no agenda has been John's annual explaining why Thanksgiving is bullcrap and and I just want you to know it has reached so far and wide that it is now even on the radio here in Texas People are talking late people are talking about John's Christmas I'm sorry Thanksgiving explanation. I'll just play a little bit of it this is on Hill country Patriot John C Dvorak and John puts out a newsletter the day before each of their podcast shows and so yesterday's Newsletter came out

02:37 I'm telling you what, it was this guy. I don't know he's butthurt over Thanksgiving John C Dvorak is butthurt over Thanksgiving and so i started reading his article and let's see he says I'm always amused by the...I'm not sure if I can use all these words just clean them out..I'm always amused by the bull stories about thanksgiving being about pilgrim maize turkeys and Indians When the holiday stems from and then he goes into, um... And I just read it was like man John C. Dvorak you completely missed the point! This goes on for five minutes this is not- I'm glad they're picking up on this

03:23 On the reality, folks! By the way he says later you're not wrong but you're missing the point. So what was the point? What did he finally conclude? Well I mean want me to fast forward a little bit? I can skip past all of it. Listeners here we know that throughout the history of this country that it has been a regular starting with the pilgrims yes to set a day aside for thanksgiving to God. There it is! Just thank you and yes did it come with harvest? Yes that's when we, that's when a lot of the thanks...that's when who got the fruits of all our labor literally. He's making it up No he's not somewhere in there he says you're right about the history of it well

04:18 Allow me to set everybody up and then we can do the annual. I feel bad for people that don't subscribe to the newsletter, there's a whole essay is in there i've been running it over and over. Well they... It's just the same old filler As you can see the shit just copy paste The uh... Copy paste oh wait there was an error let me just change the spelling The mainstream legacy media that is Matt Long on Hill Country Patriot he'll love me saying that They subscribe to your newsletter. It's show prep, it is literally show prep! Wait a minute Adam what was the name of the show again and who was that? Matt Long Show Hill Country Patriot FM So we do need to play The Chicago Museum Of History did a nice little piece

05:03 on WGN explaining Thanksgiving and we will do that as then we ramp up to have the annual explanation of Thanksgiving by our very own John C. Dvorak Long after the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock in 1621 and celebrated a successful harvest with a three-day gathering that became the first Thanksgiving it was the first President of the United States, George Washington who declared November 26, 1789 a day of public Thanksgiving. A lot of people trace the origins of the celebration of Thanksgiving in United States back to the pilgrims and Plymouth in the 17th century are kind of contemporary understanding of it really has to do more with

05:46 with these proclamations that were made by various presidents. Chicago History Museum Director of Exhibitions Paul DeRicca says the holiday was observed on and off for years, President James Madison proclaimed a Thanksgiving Day in 1814 and 1815. Thanksgiving as a national holiday really kind shape and then becomes part of American culture in the 1860s. But it wasn't until October 3rd of 1863, in the midst of the Civil War that President Abraham Lincoln made what is now regarded as The Thanksgiving Proclamation he wrote The year that has drawn to a close has been filled with the blessings of fruitful fields and healthful skies He called the nation's people and its prosperity quote gracious gifts and said

06:33 It has seemed to me fit and proper that they should be gratefully acknowledged. I do therefore invite my fellow citizens in every part of the United States to set apart and observe that last Thursday of November next as a day of Thanksgiving." Lincoln's proclamation took effect just one week after his most famous speech, the Gettysburg Address. Even though the United States is in the midst of this great civil war and there are all these challenges that the nation is facing, there's still a lot to be thankful for. It was the culmination of a decades-long campaign by a prominent magazine editor named Sarah Josepha Hale. She lobbied Lincoln for the holiday. Thanksgiving, establishing it as national holiday certainly stands as one of his enduring accomplishments And in the 1940s Congress issued joint resolution 41 forever making Thanksgiving a public holiday. No wonder mainstream is losing viewers

07:31 Oh brother, well a couple of things I'll just throw in. Yes. The only thing that corrected in that report was Sarah being the one who initiated making this an annual holiday. Yes! That was good. Yeah they got that part right but the rest of it...the Lincoln Thanksgiving thing was all about dead soldiers. And they did that every year because of all the dead soldiers, it wasn't about anything else really and it was to honor the dead and so that you know she was kind of depressing to be honest about it when this woman finally got it got it to become a national holiday became such in and

08:11 All began with dead soldiers had nothing to do with pilgrims or corn or anything like that what and then it evolved into By the 30s it involved. This is new by the way, I saw it in the essay I didn't know this time to update the essay. I'm gonna update with this so by the thirties It was institutionalized as last Thursday of November yeah and Franklin Roosevelt wanted to move it up a week to the third Thursday which then became known as Franksgiving. Oh, Franksgiving! Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Because he felt because it was in I think was in 39 it was 1939 did this

08:59 He felt that it was important to move it up a week, to get Black Friday up a week. Yeah there is! To get an extra week of Christmas shopping There it is! That's the true American tradition right there. That's the American tradition but nobody bought it so it died out So yes, this is a kind of fake phony baloney deal. Oh man! Yes of course... But it's time for people to get together and argue about politics And what so beautiful about Thanksgiving... There are two ways to say it. Around here everyone says thanksgiving

09:35 I grew up saying Thanksgiving and here it's thanksgiving. It's thanksgiving, i'm trying to get into the next concert don't sound like a damn yankee! Thanksgiving! Yeah you don't want to sound like a damn Yankee, you wanna sound like a Texan, you've been there just for Thanksgiving That's right Thanksgiving Of course, even though Thanksgiving is not celebrated anywhere but in the United States our fine tradition of Black Friday is celebrated around the world. This began around 2015 I think and maybe even few years before it. Maybe earlier even yeah It started up because yes Well first Halloween which most of the EU countries spell Helloween

10:19 That was the first thing to kind of creep over. So everyone could dress up like a schmuck or sexy barmaid, or whatever. House maid. Hookers! Hookers yes basically hooker holiday and they don't say Halloween they say Helloween And then after that the internet really once the internet shopping kind of kicked in so I think it was probably 2012 where it really Really was going strong Black Friday everywhere black friday from Holland from Amsterdam to Milan black Friday is all over the EU and I would say in most of the world. Black Friday, of course Amazon big part of that and it's just wonderful we are so happy And then we always have the annual pardoning of the turkey At the White House President Biden honored an annual tradition for his final time in office The pardoning of the turkeys

11:15 It's not always the turkeys you think he is going to pardon, but these are the partners that he did. Take a look. Raised by the... Yeah I hear ya! Peach wants to speak a little bit. Peach weighs 41 pounds and loves eating hot dish and Tater Tots. And cross country skis. He goes by the motto Keep calm and gobble on. Based on your temperament and commitment to being productive members of society, I hereby pardon Peach M Blossom!

11:53 And back to the view. But there's a much more serious pardon that many people are wondering about, and that is people are wondering should Biden pardon his son? Yes! Hunter or does that make him an even bigger target for you-know-who coming in? Oh yeah we can't even celebrate Thanksgiving without some politicization by The View Yeah, it's just gotta go. Well it is going to go and then of course we have the biggest problem holiday heart syndrome We're just days away here from the first major holiday of the holiday season Thanksgiving You're tracking some medical news about something called what Holiday Heart Syndrome What is that? And what do we need to do to protect ourselves you know many people Do not know about this I will say one of the strongest memories I have as a nurse I presented after a weekend of overindulgence with swelling in their legs palpitations

12:48 patients and they had all the signs and symptoms of this condition called holiday heart syndrome. So I wanted to help educate those days where most likely all of us are going to be overindulgent, this is a reconstruction or reformation of the heart that happens from the fatty food, the salt as well as the alcohol that we eat. And it can most often lead to an abnormal rhythm, athid or atrial fibrillation. It can happen to anyone, but those who are most at risk are those who have a history of heart disease. But again it can happen to anyone regardless of their condition especially if binge drinking is involved and the symptoms that you want to look for are palpitations leg swelling dizziness and shortness of breath And the way to prevent this of course is to prevent the causes which is making sure we're mindful before we step into those holiday events being mindful about salt fat and alcohol trying to limit and portion control as much as we can This is bull crap of course

13:38 Of course. The reason for holiday heart syndrome is the stress of being with family That's it, the stress of being with family and this is going to be another one of those years where people are stressed because yes you're right Most divorce takes place between now and Christmas Well now that you brought it up This is a very very sad moment here One of our producers sent me a note and Dan is his name. And Dan says, well I'm going to be homeless for Thanksgiving and Christmas because he came home from work and there was a note taped to the back door and I shall share it with everybody. Dan you are no longer the person i fell in love with! You let hateful cult leaders brainwash humanity out of you

12:48 patients and they had all the signs and symptoms of this condition called holiday heart syndrome. So I wanted to help educate those days where most likely all of us are going to be overindulgent, this is a reconstruction or reformation of the heart that happens from the fatty food, the salt as well as the alcohol that we eat. And it can most often lead to an abnormal rhythm, athid or atrial fibrillation. It can happen to anyone, but those who are most at risk are those who have a history of heart disease. But again it can happen to anyone regardless of their condition especially if binge drinking is involved and the symptoms that you want to look for are palpitations leg swelling dizziness and shortness of breath And the way to prevent this of course is to prevent the causes which is making sure we're mindful before we step into those holiday events being mindful about salt fat and alcohol trying to limit and portion control as much as we can This is bull crap of course

13:38 Of course. The reason for holiday heart syndrome is the stress of being with family That's it, the stress of being with family and this is going to be another one of those years where people are stressed because yes you're right Most divorce takes place between now and Christmas Well now that you brought it up This is a very very sad moment here One of our producers sent me a note and Dan is his name. And Dan says, well I'm going to be homeless for Thanksgiving and Christmas because he came home from work and there was a note taped to the back door and I shall share it with everybody. Dan you are no longer the person i fell in love with! You let hateful cult leaders brainwash humanity out of you

14:39 Since you voted for a rapist, felon fraud and tyrant I no longer want to share my home with you. Please find somewhere else to live by Christmas your vote for that orange piece of shit tells me that you think all women, including me are second-class citizens don't deserve autonomy over my own body and choices. You've betrayed me Alana Olivia and your own daughter by supporting that misogynist rapists pedophile! You betrayed Randy with your vote, you know he's gay And yet you voted for a proven homophobe to lead this country. You voted for a racist A-hole who has no respect for veterans He calls you suckers and losers

15:19 How can you justify a vote for someone that does this? You voted for someone who only embodies hate. Since that's the person you think should lead our country, then I no longer know who you are and I can't spend the rest of my life with you! I have purchased a new refrigerator before that orange A-hole puts tariffs on everything and yes tariffs means we will have to pay more for things All you stupid Mag Hats fell for his lies. If you want to remove that part you replaced and return it, you need to do so before Wednesday. Please find somewhere else to be on Thursday there will be no Thanksgiving here and I'd like to have the day alone!

15:55 I'm sorry for laughing. But wow, talk about media brainwashing the media this is why this show that we do exists Thank you for bringing that up This is exactly correct Because this is not just media brainwashing, this is all media. It's like social media in particular and your favorite TikTok is playing a big role if you see the amount of TikTok women influencers who are out there repeating this over and over again and Trump he's going to declare no-fault divorce across America which on its face

16:38 Very uneducated and ignorant since marriage is a state issue, it's not a federal issue. You're married before the great state of... And because, oh yeah Texas is already doing it. Some jamoke state senator in 2017 put in a bill that said we should do away with which by the way no-fault divorce is available on every state in the union We should do away with it because it promotes wrecking the family I think only recently in New York I think New York was a holdout Oh really?

17:16 Yeah. Well, anyway... But you know so there could be these psychological operations that have taken place have absolutely convinced people that this is happening they are convinced of it there is no... No no they're not insincere in their belief I'd like to actually get into this because well yes Well since you want to get into it, I do want to... You brought kind of led me in to leading the witness in this TikTok clip. There are reasonable people on TikTok! Oh really?

17:56 Yeah, yeah. And I have one of them here. I have my TikTok clip of the day right at the beginning of this show for people that love these clips. Oh we're rocking it! Yes for the five people who emailed John and encouraged him to bring these clips to the show Here we go... I just don't get why we can't have Trump and Kamala both be president? And then Kamala is only president to the Kamala supporters and then Trump is only president to the Trump supporters And then we can find ways to identify one another so then only the Kamala supporters get the Kamala's policies. I just feel like that would be way more fair and I don't know why we haven't thought of it before, I don't know.

18:34 Humanity is lost. She's kind of cute and dumb, and she thinks that she dreamed this up as such a great idea! And she has this look on the end of it... I just don't get why people haven't figured this out? Before I move into some deconstruction here of all forms of media, I just want to have everyone think for a moment about the victims of Western North Carolina and Florida who are not having the happiest Thanksgiving. And let's be quick to listen slow to speak and even slower to get angry around all our relatives today...and our friends if you have a Friendsgiving!

19:14 Just everybody calm down and let's giving I Forgot about that. Oh, no wait didn't Didn't Jay have a friends giving a year ago as two years ago Maybe it was just maybe it was just one of these days. I try to repress the idea So the television and radio specifically, but when it comes to media deconstruction we now really have to look at all media including social media. Now the television and radio people they're so focused on what happened? What happened? How could it happen? What did we do wrong? And how are we losing out our messaging to the podcasters, podcasters, podcasters, podcaster auction

20:03 And I don't, I really don't think it's the podcast election. That...I'd love for that to be true so i have a few clips from PBS but then I have an old friend of the show who was on NPR and I think we can learn something and maybe take it to some historical things you've learned in the past 17 years doing no agenda So its kind of a retrospective And we start with PBS trying to desperately trying to understand. how Trump won thanks to the manosphere. On the night it became clear President-elect Donald Trump won the presidency again, he was joined on stage by members of his family and several high profile supporters. This is karma ladies and gentlemen! He deserves this! They deserve it as a family! Including the CEO of Ultimate Fighting Championship Dana White who paid tribute to a group of men he believed helped swayed the election

21:00 I want to thank the Nell boys, Aiden Ross, Theo Vaughn. Bustin' with the boys and last but not least... the mighty and powerful Joe Rogan. Let me know your honest thoughts." While those names may sound unfamiliar to some, they are all part of a growing online ecosystem that's been dubbed the Manosphere — a term loosely defined as male-centered content published on platforms like TikTok, YouTube and the popular live streaming site for gamers twitch. During his campaign, candidate Trump saw massive untapped potential to reach young male voters by appearing on podcasts like...

21:45 Yes, correct. Why are you mad? Why are you mad? Oh she's the worst I have a clips from her tubes coming up because they she's the worst but continue I just wanted to make sure okay massive untapped potential to reach young male voters by appearing on podcasts like The Joe Rogan Experience Kamala goes on 60 Minutes gave an answer that a child wouldn't give, it was so bad. His three-hour long interview has been viewed more than 50 million times on YouTube providing several viral moments that could then be shared in clips across all of social media. Aha! We're starting to zero in but it's clearly Donald Trump only won because of men which I think is factually just not true. No 52% of the women voters voted for Donald Trump

22:35 So, you know it's but they I want to play a few more clips just so they can kind of get into this because obviously you know these are the people influencing men. 22-year old Evan Jabot is a longtime Joe Rogan listener and a Trump voter. He says Trump's interview with Rogan allowed young men to see a different side of the president elect. I'd give an answer which was a very good answer. I always talk about I like to give long the weave. You know, you like to weave things in but when you do... And we got a lot of stories that Trump wouldn't typically say on the road he uses a lot of rhetoric in his rallies that you really didn't get on the podcast and I think was a refreshing view of Trump

23:16 Reaching young men, who often listen to podcasts and get their news from social media was a deliberate effort by the Trump campaign says GOP digital strategist Eric Wilson. They had a theory that if you watch cable news whatever end of the political spectrum you're on You already had your mind made up about the candidates and who you were going to vote for They went out to these platforms where people might not be as engaged in news and current events, to tell them about the election. Tell them about the candidate." A recent study from The Pew Research Center found that about four in ten voters under 30 regularly get their news from content creators. Okay so this is notice they don't say podcasters because it didn't say

23:59 podcasts from Apple Podcasts or Spotify. There was no mention of that, it's about what's happening on social networks and I'm gonna add TikTok and YouTube to social networks." So then on the meeting- Well Instagram and all that? Yeah yeah yeah! No of course! And Twitter? Yes but exactly...and X and Blue Cry which is the new name It's not blue sky its blue cry so- Blue Cry, I like it Thank you So, on the media which is one of my hate listens they bring on someone who has morphed her presence in media many times. Renee D'Aresta? Do you remember Renee D'Aresta? No but can I stop you for a second and mention one thing? Yeah

24:55 That guy, that famous Democrat super donor with the southern accent I think is from Louisiana or Florida was on one of these podcasts. The guy who said that Biden nominated Harris to screw with the Democrat party? Yeah, yeah. He was very well connected he says that it and i think we may have mentioned this but I should mention again that it was Barron Trump that talked his dad into doing podcasts, all of them. That's what Trump said so we'll have to believe it. Trump said that it was Barron. Okay well I didn't know that part yet because I heard from this guy and it's interesting that Barron had influence and so did Donald because Donald is the one who pushed J.D Vance

25:40 He's a family man and he listens to his family. That is good, in general, a good idea yes yeah so director she was involved with the Council for Responsible Social Media she worked at this you know Stanford Internet Observatory whatever that oh yes do you remember her now I know her yep yeah it's the one who had did the details years ago that most Internet traffic was pirate piracy. Yeah, she had some good numbers too Well and and this is even though I don't like her I remember even when I when I was on Rogan I said Joe She's no good she is literally on your show to propagandize stuff And I think she was involved in some of the early kind of censorship things somehow

26:32 I think it was her group that, if i recall, um...was trying to prove that You could de-platform someone by calling out a brand and they actually were de-platforming people by calling out brands. It's very murky, but she always comes out. She has a new position. She is somewhere else in some hoity toity place and now she has written the book so she is back." CNN also seen a decline at time when more and more people are getting their news from social media Perhaps in part because influencers seem less compromised than the legacy press. A new Pew Research report this week found that roughly 20% of Americans and 37% of adults under 30 are getting their news from content creators. Most of the accounts with over 100,000 followers are men with no professional journalistic traits... Can you stop it? Yeah! You can interrupt as much as you want I'll be well you know me mm-hmm

27:33 Isn't a newspaper reporter for the San Francisco Chronicle, I content creator that would be a Reporter is what? I'd call that and you know, but he's creating content. It's it's a horrible term In fact Spotify is vague in reality. It is a vague term That's let us take one step further. It's a meaningless trope Meaningless trope there you go. That is another great show title Meaningless trope. They use that because they never would want to categorize anyone who does something that is not sanctioned or part of a mainstream outlet, they're not going to look... They're never gonna call John C. Dvorak a journalist or even a columnist you are our podcaster or content creator it's disparaging It's meant to be disparaging and it's also meant

28:30 be able to lump everybody into one category. Spotify just changed, they have a hosting service. They changed Spotify for podcasters into Spotify for creators You see? So yes, artists are creators. I don't like it at all but that's what they're going with Most of the accounts with over 100 thousand followers are men with no professional journalistic training They're also slightly more likely to be right-leaning To understand this new media landscape we need to update some old ideas about how powerful institutions spread their messages

29:08 And for that, we turn to Renee D'Aresta. Georgetown University research professor and author of the book Invisible Rulers The People Who Turn Lies Into Reality. So she's moved... She's moved to Washington DC now. She went from Stanford now she's in the thick of it. She's at Georgetown Washington University. Okay! That is spook. I would say So she says some very, I just have a couple of shortish clips. She says some very interesting things about this new world and... ...I kind of got interested in this because we made almost like an off-handed conversation You said the turnover on this show is high! We've got it that's a problem And people started saying well that's because you're either A.) not consistent in your beliefs

30:01 Or, you know... What was the other one? I had another one here. Consistent. Yeah not consistent in your beliefs. I countered that quite nicely but then you had something to say You said But you indicated you were going to reveal because it's season of reveal on the show Yes! And this is-I'm doing this now and right now you are living- No, no, I am witnessing it. You are living in the season of reveal. And being meta about it. You're living in the season of reveal and so in fact One of our producers said, you know the observation about this is he says I agree with observations that two of you made. Is that think this infighting and i was talking about the new TDS versus TDS classic is almost an inevitable so it's like okay it's because the broad coalition Trump etc but

30:49 But he says the problem is that on one show, we'll excoriate someone like we just did and said oh you're Yale, your Georgetown University, your spook. And then when I talk about people infighting about Trump's nominees and everyone arguing about that then I tell them they have Trump derangement syndrome. Then both things can be true You know, so it's but it is a different problem and a different issue. And I think I can find or at least indicate the source of where all of this is coming from, where all of these arguments come from. So we continue with Diresta now because the secret sauce to these creators which we are not

31:36 We are I can squarely say we are not like these creators on YouTube, TikTok Instagram X Blue Cry etc. When you read these social media posts of people who are distrustful of media they are effectively saying that they really do believe at this point that there is some sort of collusion between media and government and the press is not telling them the truth And this too was one of these areas where there had been this great hope I think that by creating a a theoretically gatekeeper-free media environment, we would create a flourishing new independent press that would enjoy the confidence and the trust of the public. That was not subjected to...

32:20 Now, this is an interesting commentary because she was part of it and it was a... I would say this was, I don't remember how many years ago. Maybe 20 years ago when the internet first started going in and of all people Dan Gilmore and others promoted the idea and wrote a book he wrote a book called Citizen Journalist. And they were promoting the idea that this was over, the gatekeepers are done because we have citizen journalists who can approve us. Sources go direct is another one sources go direct Yeah, all that was a big deal and these are the same people. They were promoting the idea of citizen journalists and oh this is the way it's gonna be and this is the greatest thing ever! And now? Huh?! Yeah but she... The point she makes is that in general there's a distrust of media thinking there is collusion and I will say in many parts in the world

33:17 where there is like a government finance media for sure. There is collusion between government and between, well news, but maybe all media. So her points are valid about the feeling you know enjoy the confidence and the trust of the public that was not subjected to the same incentives and that we would have this rising trust in a burgeoning new media And of course it's not exactly what happens and all of a sudden you have new gatekeepers and New incentives and new structures and new means of sharing information. You have the most empowered public you've ever had as far as the role that individual people can play in shaping public opinion, in amplifying news that they like and sharing content with their friends so you have a fundamental shift in who can be a content creator? Who can tell stories? In this particular case we're talking about news influencers who have over 100 thousand followers and those followers play a very active role

34:19 in amplifying them. And this is where it gets interesting because what is happening in the, I'll call it view and like and click based citizen journalism or creators. We don't play there for 17 years we have never cared about how many until funny enough as I'm putting this together you asked Void Zero hey man you got any server stats? Which, as I think we both realize again is completely useless. Yeah we have 127 million unique listeners in 2024 okay sure sounds right to me

35:02 It doesn't sound right. That's right to me, but there are new incentives that this is exactly what we do not do on the No Agenda show I think a lot of people see influencers as these like you know the sort of pied pipers like leading around the masses But that's not what is actually happening. The influencer maybe has more followers, but they're often pulling content up from posts that their followers are making as well. One of the interesting phenomenons in the influencer crowd relationship is this phenomenon called audience capture where you'll occasionally see audiences begin to demand, why aren't you talking about this? Right. That dynamic happened quite a lot in the days after October 7th. Why aren't you talking about Israel? Why are we talking about Palestine where people felt that they should be applying pressure

35:51 two influencers who have reach, who can shape the discourse, who can shape political opinion. And the audience feels that the influencer should be using that power in a particular way right and it's really interesting to see those moments take shape because you realize this is not just a one-sided relationship The influencer is absolutely dependent on the crowd being there. That's how they make their money, that's how they have their influence, that's how they have their reach and so they don't want to do too much to alienate that crowd. This is exactly the way newspapers work. This is exactly the way newspapers work! You get ahold of the editor, you write nasty notes to the editor... Why aren't you talking about this? Why aren't you talking about that? Why aren't you talking about this?" What is she doing?!

36:39 She's this is ridiculous. No, no, she's making an excellent point This is a very good point and I let me bring it home come on And so they don't want to do too much to alienate that crowd and so sometimes you'll see influencers becoming more and more ideological if their audience grows in a particular direction my point here is is that when we started this show, we never thought that we would have to kowtow to any audience because initially we didn't care at all. We've never cared about numbers and throughout just recent history, COVID. A lot of people left in the beginning you guys are anti-vax you're nuts you're out of control we're all gonna die this is a worldwide problem people are dying they're falling down dead in the street I mean and by the way

37:34 And the first two weeks I thought, oh, I like this Berks lady before you say it. And, you know, I was able to say, Oh hold on a second they're showing me climate change statistics here we got to reevaluate then came Ukraine Russia twice 2014 then again two years ago do you remember the flack we got? About saying now this is bullcrap. This is Ukraine. Do you remember? We got we got a lot of flack for Kovu We got a lot of flack except for the people that stuck with it and forties and finally realized that we were right all along And but what I want to mention this one of the reasons that we get things, right A lot is because we catch early

38:22 Like for example, with COVID we caught that French guy. The French Nobel Prize winner who is considered a screwball. Who disappeared? He is the one who immediately as soon as the genetic results were released of COVID-19 he immediately saw it as an engineered virus and he went on about it and he immediately said that it would decay over time naturally, because all these engineered viruses do that. And what he said made nothing but sense and he was one of those guys that I always admire people like this who can look at something and immediately see things nobody else can see because their brain is just structured the way it is they can just see stuff

39:13 And so we always catch these guys early on and it doesn't, and also we can turn on a dime. Thank you! But most importantly relevant to what Diresta is saying here in what you just said about how newspapers work etc., We have never kowtowed to the mass audience otherwise we'd be sitting here right now telling everybody about the genocide in Palestine that the evil Zionist Jews have done We have other things to discuss. World War III? Well, you're leading me down the path in my season of reveal but let's stay with this incentive which is and this is the culture war economy. This is the culture war economy. This is why Megan Kelly does what she does, why Tucker Carlson does what he does, why Pool Boy although he seems to be falling off the map now that his money dried up

40:06 Um, uh... Bongino. Alex Jones They all want to have their audience consistently agreeing with them and them agreeing with their audience And then because it is click and view-based, and subscription based media they're very afraid to blow their business model. So this is just one incentive that is shaping some influencers to the point that they might become propagandists what are some other incentives that are shaping this new media environment? The ecosystem relies a lot on direct patronage. You see sub-stack writers making money directly from subscriptions themselves, that creates particular incentives in order to appeal to a group of people, to gain your initial following you're incentivized to appeal to a niche right? To sort of start somewhere as a person who talks about a particular topic and then to kind of expand out from there

41:03 You're incentivized to be entertaining, right? To be sensational. Get as many engagements as possible. As many people engaging and reacting and commenting and paying attention to their content. And this is an incredible challenge because you have to capture attention in an extraordinarily noisy very fast-paced environment. I'm going to tell you that Rogan does this too! He is also pivoted along and how he was always very caught I don't want to say anything that'll make people mad and he does that a lot It's and now he's the switched a little bit with the crowd that has come along with him And I'm not saying my blaming anybody, but we don't make our our income doesn't come from that System. We've always said if you don't like what we were doing Don't listen if you don't like it don't support us

41:51 And if we don't get enough to pay our rent, we're gonna stop doing it. Has it ever been any different in our message? Not really but I want to go back to what she said which is she's describing mass media before any of this. If you're a columnist for the San Francisco Examiner, The Chronicle back in the day or the New York Times or The Chicago Sun-Times or The Chicago Tribune, you have to be entertaining! You have to get people to read the damn column because it goes back to the editors they're gonna fire you. Everything she's saying applies to mass media she's extrapolating this is such bull crap

42:32 My point is, say goodbye to the old boss. Hello to the new boss! There isn't... Thank you. You made my point there's nothing new about the new media It is exactly the same model exactly the same reasons but there is a twist that I think they're overlooking And when I look at the sensationalism of what was just on Alex Jones with General Flynn, a general... you know it's- I guess you're general forever. An important- an important cog. So mind you, I spent Tuesday scrolling a little bit, little doom scrolling on X and all the Ukraine flags were out again! All the Ukraine flags

43:20 And they're like, oh, oh, Curry Hosev in quotes. No agenda! Who never even played the full... uh, Victoria Newland call. I'm like dude we played the whole five minutes so many times you never put it in context! So and there was one of those... You know this reminds me you know we're the only i want to since part of the theme here is tooting our own horn which is somewhat repulsive but at the same time necessary once in a while I will mention we're the only podcast that i know of to this day that ever played the Sandy Hook 9-1-1 call. Oh really? We're one of the only ones? I think we're the only one! So moving on...

44:11 Just mentioning in its entirety. So we played, yes we played when that Newland thing came out We played the whole thing it went on forever But so I respond to this guy or whatever John Smith 52960 so you already know what that is You know what that is Is it a bot? Is it just the troll?" I have my thoughts. Then all of sudden, all the Ukraine flags come out and they start attacking and you have to look at this and haven't you seen how this... And literally like, oh! Look what's happened to Lauren Southern she took Russian money You're Putin propaganda So when this happens like okay

44:47 Now we know at this very moment NATO is incredibly afraid of Trump coming in, pulling the plug. You know they want to keep the money moving the war machine and you know Trump has a different war machine strategy in his mind as far as we're concerned for China and it's going to be great for our economy big beautiful ships are gonna have star shields all kinds of stuff but it's not going to be NATO and it's not gonna be for Ukraine so they're out there trying to work the networks and influence the influencers, the very same thing. I'll put Glenn Beck in there too! All of these people who are clickbait like old media who need to appease their audience to keep them spun up with whatever they're spun up about but they're being spun up too and they're being influenced from people like Flynn... this is a general

45:38 who was going on to Infowars to do this. Alex has done an amazing job over these last couple of weeks really talking about this. I know we have talked about this, talking about the shift in Russia's nuclear policy and first use. He asked me prior what Secretary Austin's comments were? I know, but what Putin did when he fired this missile. He gave what i call the ultimate warning The ultimate warning message from Vladimir Putin to not Ukraine But to the west To say hey folks

46:28 Look, we are not. I have a responsibility now putting my feet which i've had to do for my entire military career was put my feet into the boots of our enemies okay? So my analysis of where President Putin is at he's gotta sit there with his own people and say that we're gonna protect the sovereignty of our country We are going to protect the safety and security of our citizenry I can't allow a nuclear capable offensive provocative weapon to be fired into Russia without some type of response, without some type of adjustment in my military and in my political diplomatic posture.

47:08 So this guy is one of these military people who are spreading this war fear-mongering stuff, just like the grid's going to go down. There will be no election like McGregor! Another ex-military guy and if you look since 2011 but really since the 70s but 2011 the Defense Agency Research Project has funded multiple studies about social media in strategic communication They have been used, and so that's when I see these Ukraine flags come out. This is military operations and they influence people And I don't want to say they're weak brothers and sisters but they are!

47:48 And they're all, and this is the influencers. This is the creators and we only need to go back to the State Department with Hillary Clinton to be reminded why Smith-Munt was basically scrapped in 2012 under Obama. I mean the old days of you know radio free Europe and getting and beaming in accurate information into the homes of Russians. We should be doing everything we can now online to replicate that it will be very difficult for Putin to plug all the holes in that dike, information going into Russia about what Putin is actually doing with this unprovoked

48:29 attack on Ukraine can keep people, you know energized and I think that's something that we should be doing as I say both through our government but also Individuals who have the capacity to do that our tech companies Should not be aiding Russia in this attack in any way they should be aiding those who are standing for freedom Which after all is something? That you know They're supposed to be on the side of so a lot of this came out of the State Department It had a name and Victoria Nuland when she was the spokeshole told us about it. The Baltic countries, Poland, a number of our Eastern European allies have long experience with responding to disinformation on the part of Russia are we coordinating that effort in any way?

49:13 Absolutely, Senator. I think you know the State Department's Global Engagement Center which you all helped us stand up and supported works 24-7 with other allies and partners not just in Europe but around the world to bring to light Russian disinformation campaigns and who is pushing them we also work with tech companies We work with the tech companies, of course we do. And it's not... The censorship industrial complex is the cover that's the cover It's not about censoring people That so we can all go nuts and say, oh they're shadow banning me No one gives a crap

49:53 It's about using the networks to actually... You said this so best, the internet only made it easier for the propaganda. It didn't make it so we'll all have bitter information no! It made it so that influencers and creators are getting all this stuff I think tech companies are actually heating some of these accounts to bubble them to the top. It's the opposite, which shows what Mike Benz is really about he's always talking about oh the censorship industrial complex that State Department global engagement center it wasn't about censorship it was about

50:30 propagandizing us as we this is lumpkin in 2018 from the State Department's Global Engagement Center. As we work on the data piece and it gives us the ability instead of just throwing a message out and hope it lands, we can actually I call that kind of meat cleaver messaging if you throw it out there and hopefully hits the right audience so we have ability, and I'll use an example of something we've started this year. And this is using Facebook ads. I can go within Facebook. I can go grab an audience. I will give a hypothetical. I could pick country X. I need age group 13 to 34. I need people who have liked

51:16 you know, whether it's Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi or any other set and I can shoot and hit them directly with messages for in some places in the world. It's literally pennies a click to do so you add the ability to actually manage and identify and see your audience based on their social media preferences Does it get any better than that the entire advertising system is set up for our own government to propagandize Exactly who they want so let me get some damn Bon Geno listeners or viewers I can get them right with advertising tools Here's Tom Shanker of The New York Times from 2011 talking about the US military doing this yeah, it certainly did what what? The American military intelligence can do is

52:06 forge the watermarks or certification if you will of official Al-Qaeda postings because they don't want people going online and pretending to be them but, you know American cyber technology is so advanced that they can have a near perfect recreation of an al-Qaeda message. And what they're doing from time to time is going on to jihadi websites and posting conflicting, contradictory orders statements that raise doubt about who the jihadi should follow and who's really in charge? Is this person still alive alive? Are they, you know still in control?" And the goal is to really disrupt the entire network by sowing distrust and dissent and confusion. We've been told that they've had some great successes at that. Yes! Right here in America! Great successes with it by sowing distrust and confusion amongst Americans final clip yes

53:03 And before you wrapped it with the final clip, this all harkens back to the note that that dumb wife of one of our producers left on the back door. Yes! It's all sides...it's all sides and we all fall in love with these oh this guy is great he says exactly what I think yeah of course That's his or her business model and meanwhile they're getting everything from the audience capture. Man, how many trolls and spooks are actually military people doing their business? Because in 2011 the State Department already had 7000 of them working on this stuff. We spend nearly 70 million dollars a year on these programs both in Iran and around the world

53:54 At the same time, we're also developing and distributing new technologies more than 20 of them to empower activists around the globe to access uncensored content on the internet and communicate with each other and tell their stories. And today we've funded the training of more than 7500 activists around the world in these programs. So the old model the spooks and the spokesholes going on to CNN, MSNBC whatever. to give you the messaging is over. It's now online, it's on social media networks and the creators are being boosted maybe even boosted to make sure they do get a lot of money Hey wait a minute this message I'm spreading right now is really working! I should not stop doing that And then when you have one of the largest government contractors certainly for military buying a social media network

54:58 You've just got to consider what's going on. And your no agenda show is not part of that model because we're struggling 17 years and we are not millionaires from this business Because we've never played that, we've never cared about it and were not in the right system. This is why everyone... Oh if you want a podcast you got to be on YouTube! Of course because they have algorithms that can be boosted if you got the right message let's give these guys little boost either through 7000 people liking them I don't know what they're doing this is.. The last four years of this show that were facing now are going to be interesting

55:43 It's gonna be very interesting to see how people fall into what they believe is truth because it's not from the mainstream media and it's coming from their favorite creators. That's a good one! It just dawned on me, like wow this is happening And it's going to be interesting to watch. See, I had this right 30 plus years ago the internet should have been shuttered immediately Shut it down right away! It's no good! It's too late! Way too late... and then you know when you hear like this as you fall and I'm sure not following Romania I mean why would we?

56:29 But Romania now has yet another far-right populist and you know, how did he do it? Gee I don't know. independent candidate, Kéline Giorgescu arriving first. And he's now followed by Elena Lascogne. She is the candidate of the progressive liberal USR party and she mainly gathered the votes of pro-European voters but also undecided voters. Kéline Giorgescu on the other hand was not expected And so when you read

57:29 that Trump is going to credential creators, YouTubers and podcasters to be in the press briefing. What do you think that's about? It's obvious! This is a new way... And Trump gets it like you got to bring and these are all hey man if I got invited to the White House for anything I'd be like wow this is cool Yeah, well that's like remember they brought the years ago for it started with bloggers. They bought the bloggers to the convention, the Democrat or Republican because there was a bunch of bloggers in there. But the bloggers see this is this is what I gave way to the podcasters. Well hold on. Bloggers got no juice and they got no juice. That's why the social mean when Twitter started it was RSS feed based actually and that's why it failed all the time but um

58:22 It was the algorithm that heats stuff up to the top that made it interesting so that somebody could go viral. Your ego kicks in, your greed kicks in now you're wide open hey come to The White House yeah I'll post whatever you want Trump you rock well you Clinton Obama whatever you rock. Podcasters we have no algorithm So there's no way for us to be go viral or go to the top That's why these social networks are the key to the propaganda, to the messaging. This is how it works! It's so human like if all of a sudden you're doing 100 million views I gotta do more of this. Yeah no you get 100 million views on something... You have to assume you're a genius Well no doubt! I really know I'm nailing it! I am that good

59:14 So, clearly we need to have a no agenda reporter at the White House and we're going to credential someone. Someone because it's in DC we probably thought DC girl would be the good one to get credentialed? Well she got DC in her name She does so she should be our No Agenda representative in the briefing room I mean, it makes so much sense. This is... And you're right! It's goodbye to the old boss and hello to the new boss. It's the exact same thing. When you step out of your line when you're not doing it right then all of a sudden your views are going to drop. It's so obvious

59:55 And I'm not even accusing Elon Musk of doing anything nefarious. They just go in, use the advertising system who do i need to target? Okay let me get some Megan Kelly people here all right I'll just select all of them click click click I'm going to start making some noise that I think is important bubble that to the top It's perfect. It's a perfect system, it's a giant scam and we're not a part of it somehow We've missed every single huge money my making opportunity in the lifetime of this show But the problem is it's a double-edged sword with us. We have at least we have A baseline of consistency even though people say we're inconsistent That's not true. We're extremely consistent where we look at things uh, we are

1:00:48 Pretty much a political people don't want to accept that because you know we don't didn't like Harris I think we can both agree on that. She was just a no good me No, good. There's no good she was I have my thoughts on it which could even more extreme and Well your California boy That's why here out there You know the story you know the background and so they In fact, Mimi was always mentioned we would run into her and Willie Brown at Star's Restaurant quite a few times. Yes yes you have mentioned this I've talked to him he's a close talker another one of those. Does he spit or just words? No I didn't get any of that but he's a close talker and I've run into a lot of close talkers over the years it's always like you keep very slowly trying to back up

1:01:43 And it's just like you can't do it. And by the way, just so just to show you how rampant this corruption is I mean This is a very short clip and its really there's gambling going on but You know the ongoing feud between Drake and Kendrick Lamar Kendrick Lamar they're doing these diss tracks back-and-forth like hey man Your not apart of the culture Drake because you know your Canadian first of all your part Jewish Your half white So your not part of the culture you need to shut up And now Drake is like, well hold on a second. Someone's playing and not playing fair. A heated feud between two popular rappers is now turning into a legal battle. Drake has filed a lawsuit against Universal Music Group or UMG claiming it falsely infiltrated inflated

1:00:48 Pretty much a political people don't want to accept that because you know we don't didn't like Harris I think we can both agree on that. She was just a no good me No, good. There's no good she was I have my thoughts on it which could even more extreme and Well your California boy That's why here out there You know the story you know the background and so they In fact, Mimi was always mentioned we would run into her and Willie Brown at Star's Restaurant quite a few times. Yes yes you have mentioned this I've talked to him he's a close talker another one of those. Does he spit or just words? No I didn't get any of that but he's a close talker and I've run into a lot of close talkers over the years it's always like you keep very slowly trying to back up

1:01:43 And it's just like you can't do it. And by the way, just so just to show you how rampant this corruption is I mean This is a very short clip and its really there's gambling going on but You know the ongoing feud between Drake and Kendrick Lamar Kendrick Lamar they're doing these diss tracks back-and-forth like hey man Your not apart of the culture Drake because you know your Canadian first of all your part Jewish Your half white So your not part of the culture you need to shut up And now Drake is like, well hold on a second. Someone's playing and not playing fair. A heated feud between two popular rappers is now turning into a legal battle. Drake has filed a lawsuit against Universal Music Group or UMG claiming it falsely infiltrated inflated

1:02:27 The popularity of Kendrick Lamar's song, Not Like Us. Lamar released the single back in May as a diss track against Drake According to Spotify the song has more than 900 million streams but Drake's suit argues that UMG used bots and launched a pay-to-play scheme To increase those numbers and make the song go viral. UMG denies the claims It is also worth noting Drake is currently represented by Republic Records which is a division of UMG Yes, there's gambling going on. Of course it's the same mechanism! We want this feud to keep going so now we're gonna boost him and then we'll boost that person... Well yeah, there have been all of these... You know I don't by the way I'm not following any of this I don't care about it think is dumb but the fact that there's a

1:03:10 kind of one company's owned by the other and they're suing each other but it's not really is, it's a phony baloney deal like this. The fact that Taylor Swift has the same basic agent that Kelsey has. Running through the same sports agency. Yeah its wrestling! It's wrestling Yes, yes. And by the way there's Dana White with Trump saying this is all because of my great fighters I mean the great podcasters it's literally the wrestling guy talking about his you know it's not really his stable but talking about the players in the game and Joe Rogan works for him

1:03:55 It's the players in the game. I'm not saying that Joe is phony, because he's obviously not. He just naturally... You know, I've watched him on and off and I have to say He's a good comedian. He's not super A-class but he's good. He's a good comedian. He knows what he's doing. He's a good actor when he was acting. He's a great host. He's done a lot of TV He is a tremendously good commentator on the UFC. And conversationalist, he's a great conversationalist! And fabulous conversationalist and not an interviewer either No no but then people come on his show you know because they're doing the rounds there or they're bubbling under or there's something interesting and he's just talking in their throwing out the messaging

1:04:50 He has, he's probably the most talented guy there that has been around for a long time. It's just in fact he is probably underpowered. Ooh! Now there is way to look at it. He needs more flavor crystals. He's underpowered By underpowered I mean see could be you know George Clooney level of celebrity easy but he's I think he may be that level if you think well I think yeah, I think in a subtext he is but not in a in a in a world wide sense the Clooney is let's say. You'd be surprised how many people around the world know Joe Rogan

1:05:31 The fact that I'm saying what I'm saying indicates that he's not at the Clooney level. Close, though. I think he's close He needs a tequila. He needs his tequila brand then he'll really knock it out of the park It's not like for example... His picture is not showing up in the gossip rags No! Well its because he doesn't play that game. He doesn't play that game. Clooney plays that game But thats what im saying.. hes underpowered Yes yeah okay and I think he likes it that way I bet, yeah. Who the hell needs the other aggravation? Tell me about it... I have two clips, quick ones which is just kind of fun because again because you mentioned you brought up Kamala and they're still trying to figure out what happened. I don't understand what happened? Well no one wanted her and the most important thing you could have in today's world is authenticity and that's why

1:06:31 President Trump going on Rogan and talking for three hours, people could sit there make up their own minds. It was that easy no one can talk for three hours and be cagey and couched and not show their true personality so they're still trying to figure it out and they have this woman on This is Pod Save America who are supposed to be the people who got Kamala elected because they're podcasters. It was a podcast election, wasn't it? How come you didn't do your job on Chief America? Aren't you number one podcast? This is Jen O'Malley Dillon, who was the campaign chair. This is a series of great clips I would say...

1:07:15 I am not a media hater by any measure and i think that... So now she's, I'm not a media hater but it was the media's fault. You know we women don't get far in life talking about double standards so that's not the point. The media is misogynist now But I do think a narrative, 107 days. Two weeks f***ed up because of the hurricane. Two weeks talking about how she didn't do interviews which you know she was doing plenty but what were doing in our own way? We had to be the nominee who had to find a running mate and do a rollout. There's all these things that you kind of want to factor in

1:07:52 Real people heard in some way that we were not going to have interviews, which was both not true. Real people like CNN and MSNBC all of your real people were saying this And also so counter to any kind of standard that was put on Trump that I think there's a problem and then on top of that We would do an interview and to Stephanie's point, here is the best part. The questions were small and processy and about like... Dumb. She is actually claiming that these obvious softball lame interviews that they didn't want that! And it was the media who decided to do all of their own accord

1:08:40 And they, I mean this is very hard to believe. They were not informed... Well hold on a couple things just her buddy that's also there says dumb she throws the word dumb in twice actually yeah and it was pointed out by the Fox folk that Brett Baer had her on it did she only do 21 minutes period and they were cut They were jumping supposedly behind the scenes. Bear talked about this, they told her to cut it off, cut it off you gotta stop you got to stop you gotta get off the stage and they were late to do the interview to begin with uh this is bullcrap she's just a liar yeah oh and processy and about like dumb they weren't they were not informing another point she uses the word processy

1:09:29 If you noticed. Yes, what happened? They were small and processy What she meant by that was they were asking her how-to questions in other words the processing means well what are you going to do to stop inflation Well, what are you gonna do to end the war? Well, what are you gonna do it What are you gonna do this and that's pro. That's what she means by Processy those questions I didn't want to answer no of course not because she had no answers small and processy And about like good catch They were they were not informing a voter who was trying to listen to learn more or to understand and I'm not

1:10:08 You could say that, you know the whole system was focused on us incorrectly. I'm just saying like again of the things we need to explore as we move forward as a campaign and as a country... From our viewpoint actually this is quite interesting because our take has always been that THE SYSTEM wanted Trump to win so it is entirely possible that she's telling the truth from her perspective and that the whole system was geared toward getting Trump to win by doing this purposely against their wishes. Seems hard to believe but it is a possibility That does a disservice to voters and you know I think back and think we should have signaled more of our strategy early on about podcasts and who were trying to reach in But we had a limited amount of time to reach the people are trying to reach when we were trying to go To them but being up against a narrative that we weren't doing anything or we were afraid to have interviews is completely bullsh** And also like took hold a little bit, and we just gave us another thing We had to fight back for that Trump never had to worry about

1:11:09 And they were unfair towards Trump again going towards our basic thesis now the the money shot question of course is about The appearance on the Rogan show this is where she falls apart and just lies should Kamala Harris have gone on Rogan Can you? Can you just not to be tedious about it could you talk a little bit about How close she came to doing it why it didn't happen yeah? There's a lot of intrigue around this a lot of theories. It's pretty simple we wanted to do it You know I hate to repeat this over and over, but it was a very short race with a limited number of days and

1:11:46 and for a candidate to leave the battleground to go to Houston. What? Which is... What? Did you hear what she said? To leave the battle ground, to go to Houston It's not in Houston? No, no. Listen you'll hear it in a second. Houston which is a day off the playing field on the battleground um you know getting that timing right uh is really important so we had discussions with Joe Rogan's team I love the team part it's one guy Matt one guy who answers the phone hello it's Matt oh

1:12:28 Oh, you want to go on Joe? Well here... yeah we can do this. Uh sure! When do you want to do it? Well you only want to do one hour no that's not the for- You don't want to do in his studio? No no We do everything in the studio and its open at least three hours So talking with his team is a lie. They were great, they wanted us to come on... He's not they them it's he it's Matt It's not they them Great! They wanted us to come on we wanted to come on We tried to get a date to make it work and ultimately we just weren't able to find a date. We did go to Houston and she gave a great speech at an amazing event. The Beyonce event? Yes, well I'm gonna call it reproductive freedom There you go so they chose the reproductive freedom event with Beyoncé over Rogan

1:13:16 That's it. They thought that would play better with the audience, that was the decision they made and they could have done it... if they're in Texas hop skip and a jump you could have popped right down but no because... Yeah or you can take a puddle jumper. Because they had a private jet! They did not.. they were afraid that she would as we say in Holland in the old country this is how do it a month falla she would fall out of the bottom of the basket I know it's another great Dutchism isn't it? I want to play two clips that are pretty obscure, but it's James Carville who has been on everything. Because he was right about everything! Well he was wrong about it... He's the one who got by him and Axelrodder, two guys that were part of this system which included Pelosi and Schumer and others

1:14:11 and George Clooney, who's now hiding. To get rid of Biden and he was part of it... He is the only one that still talking the rest are all shut up and they took off but this is on an obscure podcast somebody sent to me And I want to play these two clips because it refers to this woman here we go I think you place some of that blame on Harris High Command I love that scene in a movie The Graduate where he says Benjamin come one word son One word Plastics You know, plastics one word audit. So I have people with a Contact to be the run for DNC champ promise you I'm not gonna get in the middle of that What is he saying? Do you have to give me some I can't even hear the context of what he's talking He said the one word he wants like the word plastics in the movie was audit. He wants to audit he's sitting there steaming and his own juices about the fact that

1:15:04 They spent, he has numbers that are higher. He claims they squandered 2.5 billion, not two billion, not one billion, 2.5 and he's demanding an audit. He thinks that this is just the whole campaign was just a giant money laundering scheme." Well how about this? Everybody was on the money train And it was like, yeah. Yeah I'll do the podcast with you give me $500,000 we'll build a really nice... Now this brings us to the as it starts to be revealed that's why the audit would be interesting is that our buddy The Rev

1:15:53 picked up $500,000 to interview her on MSNBC. This is MSNBC who I complained about over and over again but MSNBC is obviously one of the most corrupt news operations out of NBC that the nation has you don't give somebody a half-a-million dollars to put them on and interview them with the softball, interview that which is exactly what happened. By the way the no agenda show is very open to this kind of operation Yeah, we're good. We're good. Don't worry about it boys. One word audit so I have people that are contacting me to run for DNC chair promise you i'm not gonna get in the middle of that anybody and I don't have a vote or they'll have an opinion no one cares but I would say the policy number one is we're going to audit everything we're going to audit the campaign we're going to audit future forward we're gonna bought it the dmc

1:16:53 So people would know, but I'm telling you without complete transparency the campaign we think raised a billion and half dollars. Okay? We know that Future Forward last we saw was 900 million so we can assume that they got to a billion before election day That's two and a half freaking billion dollars Do you have any idea where the money went does anybody have any idea what it might even mean? I mean I had some places I started looking And it's all, Albert I promise you this. The amount of money and the amount of lobbyists that were involved in this campaign is staggering. It's staggering! We'll talk more about that James because if that's okay... That's not what the Democrats are supposed to be So we go-we had this discussion that we thought when Harris was asked the money question would have done anything different than Biden

1:17:48 I thought, and I think you did too but i'll let you speak for yourself. She just froze she just said, I want to be loyal to Biden and can't bring myself to her side which was a very bad answer but understandably human answer so then sorry Stephanie Cutter and she goes on Pod Save America no that was by design the reason she gave didn't even make any sense oh okay who's Stephanie Cutter? That's the woman that was you were playing on Potsave America. No, that's not Stephanie Cutter. That's someone else. The woman that she was in that group Oh okay Okay I think she may have been doing is a dumb dumb. Okay? So that was by design But it's all part of the same this is the echelon these bitching about so let's go to Part 2 Alright so Stephanie Cutter owns a firm called Precision Strategies

1:18:43 who Jeff O'Bally, Dylan used to work for. That much we know all right? And we think we know that they got a lot of the buy I don't know but there has to be an audit. Oh so a lot of the money went to Pod Save America No, no. They're talking about this strategies company that Kamala hired and he says they got a lot of the buys. Oh so they got a percentage of the advertising buys? Right when you get piece of the buys where your the advertising agency and your doling... You've got all those money you're throwing it out there because your getting 10% of it

1:19:18 Yeah, so she's I think it's 15. I think agency fee is okay could be 15 could be 20 by now But whatever it is the more you spend the more you make So you have to get rid of this money? So they were throwing money away To get money Is great that's what he wanted the audit for and that's what he's bitching about And I think that's exactly what happened then you had these there was just too much thing They got up If you remember when Kamala first got nominated, as it were, if you want to call it that. They picked up like almost a billion dollars on the spot! Right away yeah was in the kitty. And so all of a sudden there's a bonanza and your sitting there with on a pile of money and then you notice that your sending out these messages to everybody two or three times a day begging them for more money to get all this little old ladies who throw their $50 in Yeah People who can't afford to donate donating

1:20:12 And you're sitting on all this money, and you've got to get rid of this money as fast as you can to make the money on the buy. This is a giant money laundering operation for all practical purposes." What do you make – and I have 1 minute 15 of it – what do you make of the reason For Kamala Harris's obviously drunk message to be to be put out there Is this more sabotage of her as a human being? Did theory based on what I was watching because I've seen this thing played and played and played you. I know we have it or not Yeah, I have a minute 15 well Let's just go once your plane then We can talk about yeah And it means so much to me and to governor Walz that you knocked on doors You called friends

1:20:56 You called in favors. You said, hey you know I showed up to treat your softball game now i need you to show up at the campaign office By the way anybody who has been in a bar after 2am knows this person This is not even questionable at this point Showed up for treats Softball game now I need you to show up at the campaign office You put in the time it was personal for you And you gave all that you could to support our campaign. Because of your efforts, get this we raised an historic 1.4 billion dollars almost one and a half billion dollars again I'll say yeah no the election didn't turn out like we wanted it too certainly not as we planned for it too

1:21:45 But understand that the work we put into it was about empowering people. That's the spirit with work we did I just have to remind you don't ever let anybody take your power from you You have the same power that you did before November 5th And you had the same purpose, that you did and you have the same ability To engage an inspire So don't ever let anybody or any circumstance take your power from you. That is the most drunk rant I've ever seen. Hey man, don't anyone... Don't let them take your power! Don't let them take your power from you man! Ever! You got power.

1:22:35 with the note on Twitter saying, take this down. This is a humiliation went on and on about it was quite an interesting post by her telling them to take this down as I guess Meghan McCain voted for but yeah this is a sabotage move this is the leftover people that or the Democrats themselves because she threatened to run for governor Yes, yes. Yeah I think that might have been the... you know we can't have this going on we've got to take her down right away Hey Kamala just say what's on your heart into the camera here I believe that's what happened it's a sabotage move and she's too dumb to know Sabotage yeah I mean she's dumb she's a dummy

1:23:25 Yeah, um... I have another dummy who just could not believe. You know sometimes these old time Hollywood celebrities They think, oh I'm in Italy so it doesn't really matter what i say. Oh this is the most pathetic thing that you're gonna play Sharon Stone Yes And this is a pathetic... I mean Sharon Stone there's one other one too Alec Baldwin but I'm not interested in him No, Alec Baldwin was no good but Sharon Stones rant here is probably as pathetic as they get I have some thoughts on it after your play maybe

1:24:06 You know, Italy has seen fascism. Italy has seen these things you guys you understand what happens? You have seen this before. My country is in its adolescence. Okay can you stop it for a second and start backing up a little bit of course you should know that I'm going to give you Sharon's stone story she used to live in the Bay Area well then you happen to know her ex-husband slash boyfriend yeah okay Phil. Best their restaurant of choice for years was Florida Lee where you and I have been many a time for lunch Yeah, it's because the chefs is a friend of mine. It's gone now. Is it gone? Oh, yes long gone he moved to Vegas I can't even get a hold of them He wrote the forward for too many eggs calm. Oh, oh that's Hubert Keller yeah

1:25:07 And he wrote the forward like forwards are typically written. John, can you write the forward and I'll sign it? I'm not reading this book! I'll just sign it. I like Mimi she's cool. So I talked to the, just a couple of the waitstaff there. But because they would call Sharon so would call and demand a table at any given spot where their reservation with the place is filled or not and they'd always accommodate them very accommodating. Of course it's Sharon Stone. The guy says to me, he says the problem was... This is a good story time Uncle John. I don't think that's... And it was and i'm reminded of that story It could be bullcrap this is just the story I was told

1:25:55 Maybe she was sober as a judge all the time, I don't see no evidence of it. But I get the sense that she was in the same bag that Kamala was in when she gave this little talk here in Italy and Italy is a place where they got good wine Yeah! What happens? You have seen this before My country is in its adolescence Adolescence is very arrogant. Adolescence thinks it knows everything. Adolescences naive and ignorant and arrogant, and we are in our ignorant, arrogant adolescense We haven't seen this before in our country so Americans who don't travel who 80% don't have a passport who are uneducated are in there

1:26:47 Extraordinary naivete. What I can say is that the only way we can help with these issues is to help each other Now, we cant just say women should help women because thats the only way we have survived so far We must say that good men must help good men. And those good men must be very aware that a lot of your friends are not good man." Hold on a second, let me get this right So John you and I have to help each other but we have to be aware that one of us may not be a good man Yeah! I'm worried

1:27:35 And you can't continue to pretend. Isn't this kind of like a unburdened by what has been speech here? It's really bad! There is more... Are good men when they are not good men. Few good men and you must be very clear minded and understand that your friends who are not good men are dangerous, violent men. And you have to keep them away from your daughters, your wives and your girlfriends because this is a time when we can no longer look away when bad men are bad." Boy! This is like some sort of virus's word salad thing. I want to like her so much

1:28:32 Yeah, I want to like with a lot of people defended her because they I think they've always liked her early acting which was sure very good-looking lady She was yeah great stuff My producer on the old software hard talk used to go to high school with her. Yeah and Said that she was well known in is in Pennsylvania Yes, just where a well known round heels in the high school. Round heels? Yeah, you can figure that out yourself. That's as far as I'll go with it but Sharon Stone is quite the personality Oh oh I just looked it up okay It's offensive slang by the way Offensive slang is what you use there

1:29:17 Uh-huh. The, I will say it... the phrase alludes to the heels of a woman's shoes becoming rounded to her frequently falling backward Wow this is very old English And that's the term that she used when she described it Speaking of great words. Next, the word of the year according to dictionary.com it's demure It is defined as characterized by shyness and modesty or reserved Demure went viral over the summer when TikTok creator Jules LeBron used the phrase very demure very mindful in her videos Oh yes boy thanks mainstream media Thank you demure very demure very mindful beautiful it's beautiful

1:30:05 Alright, do something on this since we talked about Joe. You brought in... you were said to one of our producers I have the best clips of Joe Rogan with Mark Andreessen Can i tell my Mark Andreessen story? I have one too, but go ahead. No you start first Well my story's not as interesting as yours is gonna be because you got your stories after he became of I think a VC no No My story is before he became a VCO all my stories before it became a VC to here's what happened so I had Condemned one of the and I can't just have to think of his name one of the partners

1:30:47 Oh, Jim Barksdale. It was Jim Barksdale. Boom! I had condemned him because I had offered him a ride at some event and he the way shrugged me off was extremely insulting and so I kind of wrote it up in one of my columns that you know what to do. Jim's bark... Jim Barksdale very wealthy man had this very famous yacht Yeah, and he's got a... He's a southerner. Southern drawl. He's a gentleman. And so I wrote this thing up about Barksdale being an asshole. As one does in the turn-the-other-cheek world of John C. DeVore Act.

1:31:28 It was you know it was it was done in a way that was it was okay. It wasn't like I was you know? Uh, I was just pointing out what happened and so they all is a big fuss And so they had to have it What magazine was this for PC Magazine the big boy oh boy You you have meddled with the primal forces of nature mr.. Dvorak And so I had to have a sit-down with Barksdale and Andreessen showed up to it, and it was a sit down at Florida Lee of all places once again. It's like Nexus for a lot of this stuff. That is great! So we had dinner there and then we talked and he was like you know...it was a misunderstanding and all the rest of it. I thought you were trying to run me over? I didn't understand that you were trying to give me a ride?!

1:32:13 It was just, it was. But Andreessen was there and Andreessen which when he had hair or he had actually had a hair I don't know if you'd met him when he had hair now but he had hair He didn't look like an egg. Elon had hair at one point too but not for long. Elon's got hair. He has a bristle rug are you kidding me? That's plugs! Well yeah least he's got his hair though. Andreessen is bald now Yes Yeah So what he had here and it was like And Andreessen was very reticent, he was a shy guy. When he became a loudmouth venture capitalist I just said wow! I didn't know he had it in him and you know there's a lot of stories about Andreessen and I've got others but so that's when I first met him that was some when they were still at Netscape

1:33:05 We'll play the clips and then I will... Before the IPO, I believe. We'll play the clips and then we'll tell everybody my Marc Andreessen story So what are we listening to here? This is on Rogan. And we don't play that many Rogan clips but this is a good one This was news to me it was news to Rogan You didn't know about this?! about the debanking of 30 venture capital funded companies? Joe Cole 2.0, yes! Yeah I knew about this... I did not know about this. Alright here we go and then my favorite twist is we have this thing called independent federal agencies so for example with this thing called the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau CFPB which was the sort of Elizabeth Warren's personal agency Oh by the way stop the clip for second

1:33:49 When I met Marc Andreessen at the Florida Lure, he wasn't a fast talker either. I know! What is this fast talking thing? Silicon Valley venture capital nonsense... It's milieu. Milieu. Of course. Then she gets to control it and says, you gotta do a lot of this. Yeah he was sniffing a lot. We should do this a lot. He just... I actually had to cut a couple out of his clip. Oh that's too bad independent agency that just gets to run and do whatever it wants, right? And if you read the Constitution like there is no such thing as independent... I'm just thinking fast talking. Does that remind you of anything? An agency and yet there it is. What does he never okay you know what your hinting at but he never

1:34:40 He doesn't have the other affectations. It doesn't like tap his nose, he's not having any of that doing this. You know I don't believe that's it is just maybe too much coffee by black rifle agency do whatever she wants what does it do though basically terrorize financial institutions prevent fit to prevent new competition start well that was a good one mark I'm

1:35:18 This is where a lot of the debanking comes from, these agencies. So debanking is when you as either a person or your company are literally kicked out of the banking system. Griffin Smith Like they did to Kanye? Benkamp Exactly! Like they did to Kanye my partner Ben's father has been debanked. We had an employee... Griffin Smith For what?! Benkamp ...for having the wrong politics for saying unacceptable things. Under current banking regulations under okay here's great here's a great thing under current banking regulations after all the reforms in last 20 years there's now a category called politically exposed person PEP And if you're a pep, you are required by financial regulators to kick them out of your bank. You're not allowed to have them. What? But what if you're politically on the left? That's fine because they're not politically exposed. So no one on the left gets debanked? I have not heard of a single instance of anyone in the Left getting debanked. Can you tell me what the person that you know did with what they said that got them debanked? Oh well David Horowitz is a right wing.

1:36:09 Pro-trump. I mean he said all kinds of things, you know He's been very anti Islamic terrorism He's been very worried about immigrant migration and all these things and they debanked him for the other day to bank days So you get kicked out? You get kicked out of your bank account you get you get kicked out of the crew can't do credit card transactions But wait, you can't run is that legal exactly so this is the thing And so and then it you go on this thing of like well There's no this is where the government in the companies get intertwined back to your fascism point which is There's a constitutional amendment that says the government can't restrict your speech, but there is no constitutional amendment that says the government can't debank you. Yeah so this was called... I don't know what you're saying? You want to play the second clip when we talk about it or what? Well you had something to say? So choke point two point choke point 2.0 He talks about that in the second clip Okay Then they do not have to debank you They just have put pressure on private company banks to do it

1:36:57 And then the private company banks do it, because they're expected to. But the government gets to say we didn't do it. It was the private company that did it and of course JP Morgan can decide who they want to have as customers, right? Because their a private company. So its this sleight-of-hand that happens... so basically it's a privatized sanctions regime that lets bureaucrats due to American citizens the same thing that we do to Iran This has been happening to all the crypto entrepreneurs in the last four years. This has been happening a lot of the fintech entrepreneurs, anybody trying to start any kind of new banking service because they're trying to protect the big banks and then this has been happening by the way also in legal fields of economic activity that they don't like

1:37:35 And so a lot of this started about 15 years ago with this thing called Operation Truck Point, where they decided to – as marijuana started to become legal, as prostitution started to become legal and then guns. Which there's always a fight about under the Obama administration they started to debank legal marijuana businesses, escort businesses and then gun shops just like your gun manufacturers and just like you're done, you're out of the banking system. And so if you're running a medical marijuana dispensary in 2012, like you guess what? You're doing your business all in cash because literally can't get a bank account. You can't get a visa terminal. You can't process transactions. You can't do payroll. You can't do direct deposit. You can't get insurance like none of that stuff is but you've been sanctioned right now. None of that stuff was available and then this administration extended that concept to apply it to tech founders crypto founders and then just generally political opponents

1:38:24 Yeah, so that's that's been like super pernicious. I wasn't aware of the 100% and it was called operation short point 1.0 was 15 years ago against the pot in the guns Point 2.0 is primarily against their political enemies and then to their disfavored tech startups And it's hit the tech world like we've hard We've had like 30 founders debanked in the last four yeah, yeah It's been a big recurring pattern so Choke Point 1.0, actually was there was a document called Operation Choke Point and that we I think we probably even talked about that years ago Yeah That was mainly the pot shops. I wonder if I have choke point Let me see yes looks like clips that you had let me see What purpose is all for Missouri rise? Yes, so there was a whole hearing in Congress about it

1:39:14 I don't think there was ever a document called 2.0, but this man... He's a little disingenuous- I'd never heard of the Peps so that's something i wasn't familiar with I don't think there was ever a document called Choke Point 2.0, but in the Bitcoin and as he says crypto circles this is really something that's been discussed around particularly the SEC and Gary Gensler because there were such... And so yeah Elizabeth Warren was in there as well So against crypto which of course except for bitcoin everything else is what they call a shitcoin It just it really is no good

1:39:54 in my opinion. These companies and subsequently the people who are running the companies were being debanked because of the danger to this system, and I think there was definitely pressure from the SEC and from Gary Gensler in particular that's why you saw at Bitcoin conference all this, I would just say pressure on Trump to say two things. One he will pardon Ross Silk Road Ross and two fire Gary Gensler that's because of this but it's to me it's more about the we don't want your fake money to come into our system than about the political stuff. He's make Andreessen is making a very political here I'm not sure that some of it may be true but I don't think it's entirely true

1:40:46 I can see that. Now my, well for him it's yeah there's a lot of reasons why Silicon Valley people like Andreessen Horowitz why they want Trump because he you know, they put a lot of money into his campaign and he was okay I'm gonna make sure that you're good with your Bitcoin. And here's the key your stable coins your stable coins Because that's going to be the truck. I believe that's going to be the trump money make up money printing system without actually printing money Because the state the biggest stable coin is Tether. It's backed by US Treasuries in fact and Bitcoin but Tether buys the biggest buyer of U.S.. Treasuries right now to back their stable coin, so you get this company to buy the treasuries That's your lending So that so you already are creating money by doing that

1:41:41 And then you get to bake on top of it an equal amount of stablecoin. I have a feeling Trump sees this and somehow that's how he is going to print money without printing money, we'll see Now my Marc Andreessen story We go back to 1993 So this is before your Fleur de Lis meeting Way before your Fleur de Lis meeting And I have set up MTV dot com with a Gopher server Do we remember the gopher server? Oh, yeah. Of course not everybody does But go for what I remember seeing my so this is before the World Wide Well for this and go for that Yeah, well there's two parts of this story So you met Andreessen when he was still at the University let me get to the story Okay, so I set up a gopher server which is what blew me away about the internet as you could have this this

1:42:32 this document, a page of text and you could say alright link here to go to this other server and get their page of text. And then you could have document pages on that server it was all connected in this was basically the web. So the first part of story is I set up this Gopher Server which is made by the University Minnesota there CIS department had created this and now as MTV going hey! Go to mtv dot com got a Gopher Server And then they called me up and they said, You're gonna have to pay us a $5,000 license for using the Gopher server. Like what are you talking about? It's open source yeah but it's you know we own this and you're using it commercially I'm like MTV is not using its me! I'm just a dude I don't have five thousand dollars and we struck a deal and the deal was they would forego the license as long as they wore a University of Minnesota gopher t-shirt on MTV And you can still find that on YouTube

1:43:32 So around this time, I get an email. Adam at MTV dot com again email from this guy Mark Andreessen who's at the University of Champaign-Urbana Illinois he says hey man Hey man, I love what you're doing with this MTV.com Try out this software i've made it's called HCTPD and its version 0.9 You can install it and then have this thing called Mosaic And you can do multimedia And so I set it up and then that was the last I ever heard from him. But that was my encounter with Mark Andreessen is he asked me to... MTV.com was one of the early websites on the World Wide Web because Andreessen asked me to set it up

1:44:23 Did that disappoint you? Well, that story tops mine I think. A little bit. Because my story really didn't have too much to do with him and... I will say that's a really great story! Oh! Well, thank you. You rarely do you think my stories are that good? Well I say because it's a historic moment Yes And what makes it even greater is the irony of the entire...the way came up to do the way The whole thing fell apart because you were like obviously at the time It's some sort of savant visionary who put this thing up and MTV was so clueless with the boneheads that were running it that they not only

1:45:02 They basically fired you. It's a story for another time kids, yes but in the meantime I want to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in process he say hello to my friend on the other end he won the only Mr John C DeVos It's Thanksgiving. 1512 trolls at the peak, kind of to be expected. It was 300 low. It's still pretty good for considering people are arguing with their in-laws right now I mean

1:45:50 Some of them are just sitting in the corner with their headphones on, you know rocking back and forth like Bill Gates. Like don't talk to me what are you doing? I'm listening to something important yes those trolls are very... You should be listening to the show Those trolls are very important they aren't listening to the show and there they're listening live at trollroom.io or perhaps using a modern podcast app which is free of algos algos L-A-L-G-O-S Greek for pain and suffering look it up The Modern Podcast app, which you can find at podcastapps.com will in fact alert you when we go live even if you're out and about and like oh that's right the show they got a show! You already saw the newsletter like you kind of remembered but oh it's right...the shows starting And then when we publish the show it notifies you within 90 seconds We've got all kinds of cool things transcripts you can search those Oh you know this is this isn't an anti-AI story so bingit.io

1:46:47 which it forwards to the Clip Genie website that Sir Deenonymous put together, Bing.io, which is fantastic as a search engine you search the transcripts, you search the clips, you search articles I mean everything that we've created up to a certain point because we lost a lot in a previous system we were using Drop.io if you remember that? Yep And they got Aqua hired and then all of a sudden everything was gone. We lost all of our show notes for couple years So I get this email from one of our producers, and he says being a dot IO emergency You've got to look at this is very important He sends me a screenshot. He says I just tried the new grok website Analyzation on being it dot io bro it expired two days ago And I'm looking at this

1:47:42 So I'm looking at this screenshot of Grok, which is the ex-AI. And it says to analyze the website bingit.io here's what can be gathered from available data and then it says domain registration domain being a dot IO was registered November 25th 2017 with an expiration date set for November 25 2024! And then that has all this whois information And I'm like, this doesn't make any sense. You know first of all it's working so it hasn't been turned off So I go in It doesn't expire until November 25th 2025 and its set to auto renewal And I said This is insane that people believe these That they trust these systems Yeah Its crap

1:48:38 It's 100% crap. Well, like I'm reminded that when I was looking for that blonde woman that was sitting next to the podium and all these systems failed including the one you did chat GPT about identifying her we had three people that wrote in and knew exactly who it was. Yes! That's NAI No agenda intelligence. And if I pushed it harder, I probably would have gotten 10 people to help me out but three people which is out of the blue just always so-and-so as I can't remember her name she's the head of the...she's the one who organized whole event and you'd think they could did these AI systems could figure out who that was but no

1:49:22 There's no good. It's good for very superficial stuff. Yeah, well example so Horowitz who is very pro AI and I'm very anti-AI...I mean not against it it's just that I have poor experiences and I don't think it's good for very much. It's good for a few things So he sends me a summary of DH Unplugged And he's running through Chad GPT or something, and it's this incredibly long tedious document that completely describes your episode. It is basically like look at how good this stuff is! He likes it yeah Well I didn't read it you know? I'm not gonna read this as tedious just tell me what you talked about the very long... so I appreciate his

1:50:12 his trust in it all. You know what's interesting, I was just thinking about this these systems that do the writing They are verbose. Oh, flowery! And what you really want is abstracts You want things that you could really...You want it boiled down. You wanna readers digest version not a war and peace version of the of what your thinking? You don't want something that goes on for days and days. You want something thats really tight. That it cannot do No

1:50:49 And why not? That's what you want. You want tight, you don't want verbose. It's interesting we didn't play this clip just so... Let me continue with this complaining when you have that phony baloney podcast that they do I've pointed this out with the two people like they're already gonna do a deep dive They stretch stuff too it says stretch they move they take a simple idea I proved this with a couple of things we posted and one night we used to play on the show But instead of keeping it tight and short and sweet, they will go on. They start bringing other stuff into the conversation that's not necessary

1:51:29 It's just it, hmm. It's interesting that they can't do that right so I put that whole thing into chat GPT That he sent me and I said summarize the content of this in 400 words or less Well it did exactly four hundred words The podcast episode features John and Andrew engaging at a dynamic wide-ranging discussion on topics spanning personal plans financial markets current events and social trends Well, there's already a waste of time. Yes! You're wasting my time! The conversation begins with light-hearted Thanksgiving plans including John's... There again this is who cares? Including yes! Including John's experiment with smoking a turkey in an electric smoker and updates on their new t-shirt designs delayed by issues with an artist

1:52:14 Unimportant. I know! This discussion transitions into current events highlighting the resignation rumors surrounding Janet Yellen It's like, this is not a good summary of this podcast? It's not... Anyway, I guess people like flowery language. I do have just because we're on it and then i don't have to do it after that after we thank some people There's the this is did we do this the podcast about from nobody special finance about the AI job bots Did we do that already? I don't know. There was a new generation of AI Job app applier apps so you go to a site you upload your resume You give it some keywords and then yeah, I think we are did that okay?

1:53:04 Then I'll do it. I remember it and maybe that doesn't matter kind of yeah Yeah, well you're gonna start doing a showdown on the AI stuff? I do have my AI clip, but I mean hey I knew she's a new it's not an AI clip Amazon says it's investing another $4 billion in the artificial intelligence startup Anthropic amid the ongoing battle to lead the AI future in Silicon Valley. The additional money brings Amazon's total investment to $8 billion. Anthropic is the company behind Claude, a chatbot like OpenAI. The money pouring into AI Ventures is fueling a search for the next chat GPT

1:53:45 Okay, billion dollars so far and what do they got this show for it's a drop in the bucket to drop in the buckets Nothing. All right Thank you trolls for being here They are an AI no agenda intelligence Sometimes at work some they're never wordy though. They're always very short into the point our NAI They just go boom. Here's what I think of you Sucks. That sucks! Rap sucks. Thanksgiving sucks, yeah they're very very short with all that stuff We have many ways that people can help us. Our NAI, we have to say it right the NAI is one way and we appreciate all of our trolls who participate in that The other way is well you could do lots of things. We like time talents and treasure as you've heard clicks listens views makes no difference thus never has

1:54:43 We only care about can we pay the bills. That's that has always been our mantra and as long as that's happening, we're happy and will continue in the last four years of this show doing that. See I've switched now from four more years to the last four years? I'm preparing everybody for soft landing. Soft landing! Time, talent and treasure you can do a number of things including hitting people in the mouth letting them know about the show. Lots like Void Zero but many people who we're very thankful for by the way We did have a note from one of our artists or would-be artists Do you have it? Did you get this note too? Does he really enjoy the discussion of the art I have the notes

1:55:27 Oh, I would like you to read it. Listening to No Agenda 1715, you said someone complained about the art segment? What a philistine! I vote yes for the arts segment It's almost worth the whole show! I was following along on The Art Generator...I was an illustrator for many years A cartoonist, a professional in graphic arts Fine Arts major and i can say authoritatively that your cover-art community is really something It's hard to believe that you have such an embarrassment of riches to choose from two times a week. I hope you appreciate it because it's astonishing and you get all without any cash changing hands. Keep up the good art segment says Anon Mark." Well, no... It's part of our value for value model so Cash is good but we like time and talent as well So were going to take a look at the artwork First thank the artist who brought us the artwork for episode 715 which was Scruples Ha! Yes Of course it was Darren O'Neill

1:56:26 who did, Darren O'Neill has some amazing prompt skills. I mean we just have to recognize how good it is and yet he comes so close to a perfect 10 and somehow gets the wrong ear for the band-aid on Trump's head. It's astonishing! And this is... He's done this before hasn't he? You got the ear on the wrong side? Yeah, I know we've rejected art before because it was but this was just so good because this was The new TDS. Um, the can was great It had this whole additional no agenda soda company logo Which was gorgeous that really was good by itself would have been just good and then he says so good as insane I mean it really we had a lot to choose from a lot of artists went for this

1:57:16 Now I'm going through all the turkeys to scroll down to see what else we were looking at for that episode. Let's see, Fred Pound had kind of a classic... It also had TDS Classic. We liked the one that had both which was also Darren. They have the classic... Instead of saying TDS Classic he had Classic TDS and then New TDS two cans next to each other And Trump won without the band-aid and one with... I just don't see why he didn't put it on the correct ear. It was very, that was troubling. Well it's not him! Oh it's the AI yeah how dumb is the AI? Klip Kustodian had a we thought it was nice he had that TDS soda but again The classic should have been under the TDS and not above it Was there anything else? Wow I'm scrolling off the page here There was more

1:58:17 Max Buffer, okay. There was a number of decent pieces and we could have chosen other things except for the fact that the Darren O'Neill piece was so outstanding Yeah it really was And I think it's also the No Agenda Soda Company that really made this thing... That really... Again concept It was concept Execution happened to be good except for that one flaw Concept was just good And the other thing is the originality of the can as opposed to looking like a coca-cola can Yes, the coca-cola colors. I think yeah that was important. I don't know who's an important but it did work Yeah because net Ness works did it TDS and nest? I don't think that was AI It was a mess and it was just you see the curry devoid had just too much going on He had too much shit too much happening in it

1:59:11 But this looked like a very classic energy drink. Like it was a new energy drink, you just couldn't get past it. It was that good and if you're good, you're good I mean Darren has figured that out He's gonna be producing tons of stuff for today show and then you won't get it. Yeah Again, it's it's more the conceit turkey by the way Turkey Thanksgiving theme This is gonna be so it's got to be a thank God anything we're not gonna pick it I can tell you right now in advance We are traditionalist that way we are just traditionalists So Thank You Darren And of course thank you to all of the artists whether you do an original I could see the farmers wife The farmers wife has already put one of her kids pieces up

1:59:53 It's definitely in the running. Do you see it? Up at the top, up at the top right there. Yeah that's pretty good She puts her kids to work like kids we're not doing AI here she's homeschooling them like you draw a turkey for these turkeys I love it! I love the kerning on no agenda. It's awesome. The kerning with the G and E It's fabulous. Thank you all very much, NoahJendartgenerator.com follow along and in the modern podcast app we have chapters Dreb Scott thank you brother for doing that so diligently for us and he takes these images uses many if not all of them often to put those into the chapters so everybody gets a shake at the stick now let us thank the executive and associate executive producers for episode 700 1716

2:00:50 We appreciate anybody who sends us any amount, particularly those sustaining donations which are any amount any frequency you set it up yourself at noagendadonations.com we will thank everybody with the amount above $50 and we like to always stop and give a special thanks to our executive and associate executive producers here's how it works Associate Executive Producer which is a real title It's a show business credit You can use it anywhere they are accepted including imdb.com We will read your note and you get that credit and that title as associate executive producer. $300 and above, you become an executive producer and we also read your notes. So I'll kick it off with Sir Dan the Man who comes in from Cape Coral Florida with 1473.62. I don't know the significance of the number other than it must be with PayPal fees, I'm guessing?

2:01:43 Or maybe not. We don't know, he does not allude to it in the note he says... No you'd have to go look He says good evening Good evening Adam and John, John and Adam good evening! Good evening to you sir I'm buying oh I'm buying my doctorate And completing my earldom There ya go please dub me Sir Dan The Man Earl of Southwest Florida Happy Thanksgiving to you and your families. It's been a pleasure listening to you, especially over the last few months with the run-up and post election commentary PS John your vasectomy opinion is just BS every time you mention it it's just cringe worthy I guess he's a victim. Love you mean it! Thanks to the best podcast in the universe and Noah Jenenation from Sir Dan The Man, thank you. You know i haven't mentioned him for...I don't know six months or maybe a year? Well I think he's hurt by it but now that you brought it back up there has been a few politicians and others that have come forth

2:02:43 that you look at him and go, yep there we go. Yep would you want to mention any so we can... I have to think of it that I can't remember his last name is Goldman Dan Goldman or something he's one of the congressmen from New York and he's you look at him and it's like okay there's one yeah I'm trying to get some other ones that are been popping up but just haven't been thinking about it I pretty sure Schumer You could be wrong about him. Louis Kellogg is up, Lewis Kellogg from Parts Unknown $1,030 and 26 cents oh and by the way for people don't know what I'm talking about but the vasectomy, the vasectomies were used were invented for two purposes first they were invented as a workaround for castration of criminals who are sex offenders

2:03:38 which is part of the original invention. And then it turned out that they would develop a certain look and so it was used as a methodology to keep people, it was considered a youth cure you could get a vasectomy and you'd look younger over time. It would change your appearance just enough to make you look like you're not as old as you were But that appearance always, to me turns you into looking like an old lesbian. So that was my thesis. Yes and you're sticking to it! And we would point out people over the years that had this look as a certain look again and We'd call them vasectomy victims and I guess

2:04:23 I guess Sir Dan the man is likely suffering from this, I'm guessing. Maybe not... You could be wrong! You could be wrong about this and he just doesn't like talking about it for some reason But i will say the Earl of Southwest Florida looks pretty young and healthy to me So Louis Kellogg came in with 1030 26 and he'd say I'd like to be known as Lord Lubru please de-douche me you've been dedouched I guess it's gonna be nighted. This is my first contribution to the show. It's a show course, we need mead at the table anyway. It says mead in and I don't know what that means. No, he just wants mead at the table. You got it. Thank you Lewis! First time contributing straight to knighthood beautiful

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2:21:04 I have something. I want to play off. All right This is where I got some stuff on the ceasefire Yeah, but also have this since it relates with the last segment This is that I can start it with the teaser or what we're gonna play and this again involves that horrible Lopez woman on PBS Oh, you even labeled it horrible teaser. Okay do I just hit it?

2:21:41 Yeah, hit the teaser. Still to come on the NewsHour how Donald Trump's re-election fits into a broader acceptance of authoritarian leadership. Authoritarian leadership! So they're gonna stick with this because we've been you and I have both been trying to find what thematic things are going to do about Trump yeah and so they're gonna go with this crate... This report is so ludicrous let's start Well, unfortunately I used the at sign instead of the number two for the second clip. But this is the horrid PBS report on Trump's authoritarianism! Just so you know, I speak Dvorak So when i see the at sign, I know it means number 2 You said something to The Banker about this by the way She told me What? Wait a minute... what did she tell you? Alright just tell me what she told you

2:22:34 I can't remember the phrase, but you used some phrase that I've never heard. Dvorakism or something? No! That's not true! Here is the story, the backstory... So we do a distribution of funds and Adam has a local bank account here at the same bank as Albany Mechanics Bank And I had to change the account number for a reason that's not important, but Adam has got a new account there. And so unfortunately...I don't know what happened when they did the cut and paste because I'm a cut and paste guy! I left the old account there so the banker couldn't get ahold of me, I guess, and calls you up. She says, yeah John, I want to deposit your end-of-month

2:23:23 I love it. We're so like, your end of month salary... But he got the number all screwed up and is uh and i think i said Oh, well that's John. I don't think i said anything like a Johnism... No there was something it was a phrase or she specifically..I'm sorry you didn't write it down but I thought it was hilarious and I called her out on it she got really sheepish! She's really nice by the way, she's really nice yeah the fact that she called and just said you know no she's a great she's the vice president at the bank she's really a great banker because you know you show up with checks and gold coins and all kinds of like it's a huge ordeal the way people support us

2:24:06 Yeah, we get a lot of different things that have to go into the bank. What are all these checks for $33? What kind of outfit are you? It was years ago when the original bank manager called me I says uh can you explain what all these because we get all these crazy checks from all these from these sources that mostly pay by mail sources and So there's piles of these checks and they've got the weirdest numbers on them because people always put their, you know birthday or something. 333 dot 33 is a lot of that. And I had to explain to him what we were doing." I'm amazed we haven't been debanked, you know what i'm saying? We haven't been debanked. All right back to the horrid PBS lady this is clip two. President-elect Donald Trump ran a lot of his campaign promising retribution for his enemies

2:24:58 and asking absolute loyalty from his supporters. Now, as he prepares for a second term in office, Laura Barone Lopez has a look at what that might mean for the future of US democracy. William according to the Associated Press 55% of voters said they were very or somewhat concerned that Trump would steer the U.S toward becoming an authoritarian country One where a single leader or small group has unchecked power still more than one in ten of those voters supported him anyways to discuss further I'm hold on a second. I have a real problem with this from PBS, and I just don't like it It's bothered me for years now when did the word anyway? Become any ways and since when is that correct English you

2:25:49 I'm not a grammarian, but i'm sure someone in the audience can explain it. Don't you... doesn't this bother you when someone of- It sounds like your trivializing the story. Anyways! Anyways? Its just not correct anyways alright. Yeah its like saying humongous or gazillion Or holding your fork wrong. You know? This irritates me One where single leader or small group has unchecked power Still, more than one in ten of those voters supported him anyways. To discuss this further I'm joined by Jason Stanley professor of philosophy at Yale University and author of Erasing History How Fascists Rewrite the Past to Control the Future Professor Stanley thank you so much for joining

2:26:33 Why did voters on one hand acknowledge and express fear that the country could very well tip towards authoritarianism under Trump, but then on the other hand still vote for him? The idea that democracy is a value upon which voters vote or place enormous priority on is false. Voters prize a number of things over democracy, especially voters who have regularly lived in a country where you can replace leaders and parties by elections. This is actually quite amazing that he's saying this book writer anyways book writer I was at remember? I went up to see that thing where Flynn was speaking next to Fenton, I think up there in Dallas

2:27:26 And there were these two people, they were probably closer to 70 and they come up to me and they're chatting. They're short people, brown people, and they say... We are so happy to be here. And they were really talking about, because this whole thing was about Trump... we want Donald Trump to be president because we come from Venezuela and if America goes down the path of Venezuela no one will have anywhere else to go So what this guy is saying it's just so polar opposite to the actual reality of the world

2:28:06 It's insane. This guy is insane when you watch him, it's like a doofus, goofy looking guy who has written a couple of books always about fascism and how it was going to take over and Lopez is all in on this And this is the PBS doing its thing...it's a socialist operation now! That's all that he can say This is all about promoting socialism on PBS. It's a terrible product, people should not give them money they should give it to us or anybody else for that matter but here we go. Give it to anybody but them! The idea that democracy should be of value well that's something that schools and universities teach, that's something we try to emphasize But it doesn't mean that people are born that way What?

2:28:52 So as soon as he said that I had to stop it there because born that way what is this a Gaga song? What is the point of saying well you know we teach at the university but people aren't born that way. freedom loving, I guess. They're not born that way you have to go to the university what he's really saying here is you have to go to the university because there's a there's an overlying pitch going on and this was also done on M & Poor Show when they had brought David Brooks in who has just written a new book and his books of Brooks and Capehart. His new book is that well they were The Divide and I had a bunch of clips on education from about five shows ago never ran them

2:29:34 But they're trying to promote the idea that if you're educated, you are a smart Democrat. If you are dumb fuck then your Republican and this is the thing that's been...they've been promoting this and promoting it- This isn't gonna work! Don't they realize this isn't gonna work? Well there was another thing at people said I don't know if I linked this on my Twitter account or not but there was a threesome of historians doing their that show at Stanford, the Hoover Institute does with that one guy who's always asking too many questions including David Hanson and two other guys. And they were excoriating this notion that the universities are like if you go to university or you're going to be a better person, you're going to vote Democrat and all this

2:30:22 you're gonna improve the country, this is where it should go. And Brooks is now promoting that all year yeah there's dummies if you have I'm a very educated person as far as I'm concerned and I went to Cal Berkeley of all places and I went to other colleges and I've not had high school dropout and I find this incredibly offensive that they make this assertion that everything's based on education. It's not true That's not true. It's crazy, but anyway... Victor Davis Hanson I found this born-this way thing to be very offensive This is an offensive...I'm obviously offended by this personally I can tell yes. Victor Davis Hanson not David Hanson David Hansen! David Hanson of the Hanson Boys The Hanson Brothers Hold on my uh...whoa Where'd you go? Come back! Something's wrong

2:31:17 Adam fell into a pit. Oh no! Yeah, I see there's a trap door in this studio. Oh no... One of my monitors just went out. Oh No! That is an oh-no. Whoa and now everything is glitching Oh, he's back. Okay next clip we can go yeah we'll do it live don't worry about it We're running with scissors people President-elect Trump has openly embraced a number of strongman leaders including Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban Trump has also said that he would be a dictator for a day He has expressed a desire to seek revenge against his political enemies

2:31:57 And he's also threatened to use the military against civilians during times of civil unrest. If Donald Trump ends up governing like a strongman, what does that mean for the future of democracy? He will end up governing like a strong man! He generally does what he says, which is why voters consider him authentic. Perhaps rightfully so. He's appointed Pete Hegseth as his defense secretary whose writings show that he regards leftists this

2:32:44 certainly adjust the levers of power in our very flawed democracy so that Trumpism remains in power for some time to come, perhaps a very long time to come. And we know that they've been taking advice from Orban And for a long time, people said including me that the United States was too large to do what Orban did. For example, Orban took over the media forcing the media to sell to his cronies and friends and the thought was the United States is too large for that however couldn't Elon Musk just buy the whole media? Oh let me add to your sound effects

2:33:31 Couldn't Elon Musk just buy the whole media? The whole media as though it's a thing. That was very disappointing. They brought back the trope about, oh he's gonna stay tonight he's not gonna leave! Yeah yeah He left the first time This is a pathetic indictment of PBS. This segment right there that I just played, is an indictment of PBS as a bunch of douchebags. Yeah! And the Lopez woman is terrible. Yes... Well the thing is, In our last four years we won't be doing much PBS stuff because The Media is now elsewhere

2:34:23 You know, what people are watching and listening... well watching is different now. We're gonna have to be playing Rogan clips! And Megyn Kelly clips yeah I heard her mention Hegseth as Stephanie Rule a favorite with the boys on the trading room at Goldman she has a real problem with Hegseth particularly his name. Meanwhile, Pete Hegseth... excuse me. Pete Hegseth! I'm sorry about that Trump's pick for defense secretary She says pig heg set and she can't and she keeps doing it well We'll have a conversation about rationality what do you think about Pig? Pete Hegseth Excuse me What keep saying pig heg Seth? Pig pig egg Seth this is really odd like got stuck in her brain And she can't get rid of it very very odd um

2:35:20 They really hate that guy. He's been on Gutfeld and all these shows on Fox a lot, he's a really nice guy! He does seem like a nice guy... Oh that's a neo-nazi tattoo! Uh no? Yeah, he's got the Jerusalem cross on his chest. It's huge! Neo-Nazi yeah all right Okay there is a lot of concern in the ether for big agriculture For big food and Big Pharma They all know that RFK Jr has his target set on them And we already played the clip several times what he is going to do He's gonna open up the vaults He's gonna uncover everything There's a lot to be hidden

2:36:01 The big food guys go first. So this is it, this I think is the cover-up story the story you want everybody talking about. I think the lawsuit may even be bogus well it's a real lawsuit but it's just bogative This is, and it even made I guess, is it Nora? Maybe its CBS. Oh no! Oh this is the lawsuit everybody pay attention to this lawsuit. Tonight's original now with in-depth reporting on a topic we've been... No this is the NBC lady watching and listen sometimes we all just need a meal to be fast and convenient right especially when you don't have time to cook so if you're at the grocery store or looking at the aisles maybe you'll pick out something that you can make real quick like

2:36:39 Like in minutes, maybe just three and a half minutes. But the Florida woman is now saying the Kraft Heinz company misled people by claiming their microwavable Velveeta shells and cheese is quote ready in three and a half minutes she says that's actually not the case at all it's raising bigger broader questions about food marketing in this country consumers and companies. Here's Ziegler Essamual This microwavable pasta is at the center of a new lawsuit. Amanda Ramirez from Florida is suing food giant Kraft Heinz, alleging the company misleads customers about just how long it takes to prepare Velveeta's shells and cheese cups

2:37:16 Val Vita shells and cheese packaging says ready in three and a half minutes. But Ramirez says the claim is false since microwaving for three and a half minutes is one of several steps needed to suit alleges the company is misleading customers, allowing the company to sell more of the product at a higher price statement representatives for the plaintiffs said in part, I've gotten a lot of flack about this case but deceptive advertising is deceptive advertising and we want corporate America to be straightforward and truthful. So i think the media, the media television news is playing this one up as all look at this crazy lawsuit it's there everyone can argue that's right it takes me four and half minutes boy they're lying they're

2:37:57 The real lawsuit is obscure report, or obscurely reported like this. A federal judge refused a request by Kraft Heinz to dismiss the class action lawsuit against it accusing the food giant of lying about its mac and cheese claims have no artificial preservatives District Judge Mary Roland ruled this week. The plaintiffs made a reasonable allegation that Mac and Cheese contains a synthetic form of citric acid and also has sodium phosphates noting the synthetic citric acid is different from the natural variety. The lawsuit specifically alleges the ingredients were used as preservatives, making Kraft Heinz's claim of no artificial flavors, preservatives or dyes on its labels false

2:38:43 Kraft Heinz contends the allegations are untrue and its ingredients do not contain artificial preservatives. The plaintiffs are seeking damages for fraud and violations of consumer protection laws So you watch, we'll see the morning shows talk about the other lawsuits which I think was just set up so people talk about that one and we don't talk about it. It's a smoke screen, exactly. And then well we gotta really move as fast as we can We don't have much time. pharmacological product of the century. We've got to get it moving before RFK Jr comes in, let's go go go! The Biden administration is proposing a new rule that would have popular weight loss drugs like Ozempic covered by Medicare and Medicaid public health- By the way did your NOAH agenda show predict that a year ago?

2:39:38 That's what it has all been about. The answer is yes. Insurance programs already cover the medication for some people with diabetes, but this proposal would allow anyone considered obese meaning a body mass index of 30 or higher to also qualify for coverage. The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services or CMS says 22% of Medicare recipients fall into that category without insurance coverage these weight loss medications come with a notoriously high price some costing $1200 dollars a month CMS estimates the proposed rule would cost as much as $35 billion over the next 10 years. CBS News medical contributor Dr. Celine Gounder joins me now, she's also the editor-at-large for Public Health at KFF Health News. Doctor, these drugs have been in the news... Doctor hold on a second! The teleprompter is scrolling let me get my scripts to ask you the right question doctor. ...the editor-at-large for Public Health at KFF Health News

2:40:30 Doctor, these drugs have been in the news for months now. What is the idea behind this allowing more insurance coverage so more people can essentially afford this medication. So this is really a recognition, a formal recognition that obesity is a chronic medical condition that taking these medications is not just about weight loss to look more attractive etc but really that it has an impact on your health and what we are seeing as accumulating evidence whether you're talking about diabetes or cardiovascular disease stroke kidney disease dementia different kinds of arthritis. We're seeing that these medications have a really beneficial impact for people who have obesity."

2:41:18 that these medications solve all these problems because you're no longer obese. It's not curing these problems, but that's how they're positioning it which is... I like your catch there because i would have missed it the accumulating term using accumulating meaning it's like, well eventually we hope to see evidence. Whatever you do just remember RFK Jr is against this really he's wrong Well as you know President-elect Trump has picked Robert F Kennedy jr to lead the Department of Health and Human Services which encompasses the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid among other agencies Kennedy was on Fox News in October He was asked about a similar bill to this proposal that would cover weight loss drugs Let's go ahead listen

2:42:04 That alone will cost three trillion dollars a year. If we spent about one-fifth of that giving good food, three meals a day to every man woman and child in our country we could solve the obesity and diabetes epidemic overnight. A tiny fraction of the cost What is your reaction to that? Is it that simple Well, look the GLP-1 drugs these weight loss drugs. They're not the silver bullet clearly diet and exercise has not been the silver bullet either I would talk about it as being Silver Buckshot we need a lot of different solutions to chip away at this. The Biden administration that the FDA has sent to the White House proposed guidelines for front of package food labeling to make it much more clear To consumers hey this food is healthy or not healthy It's really hard sometimes read

2:42:55 I can see me walking into H-E-B. What is this? This is not healthy, I think I'll have some of that! To consumers hey this food is healthy or not healthy it's really hard sometimes to read the fine print and figure out what all that really means we were waiting to see if the White House signs off on that but that would be another strategy for addressing the obesity problem from another perspective We also know that the incoming administration has Medicare and Medicaid in the crosshairs for budget cuts And so something, a rule like this that would with respect to the weight loss drugs that would increase spending by Medicare and Medicaid really don't seem very consistent with those plans to cut the budget. You bloody bloody bloody blah! Boy they're just doing it she's doing their soft shoes she's doing a tap dance

2:43:40 Just a promoto-zempic. The silver buckshot of all things! I love silver, that's a great show title It is and she says oh diet and excite no you need stop with the mac and cheese people it's not real cheese and it may not even be real Mac its crap and cheese crap and not really cheesed education in your elite schools, please. Last question. to the weight loss drugs, the Trump administration would have to finalize that. So that would not be until after inauguration based on the current timeline with respect to the FDA food package labeling assuming the White House signs off then you would have to open up for public comment and again it would be the Trump administration that will finally act on that so first of all we're talking about months two years in some cases with Medicare and the weight loss drugs were talking about 2026 at

2:44:51 earliest. But you know even so a lot of this will just depend on how the politics play out in the incoming administration. This, the whole industry that keep people sick industry is and finance the insurance industry... You know the Zoomer she was here for the summer she got her knee operated on because she tore her meniscus So outpatient, now she is on the Affordable Care Act because she's very poor and which is in this case good because she got affordable care. And she had to pay... I'm sorry we had to pay I think $1100 out of pocket for the surgery okay but it seems fair. It's reasonable Very reasonable so that she's an outpatient who's in-and-out same day good to go

2:45:45 So we got the bill today which shows what insurance paid etc. etc so what do you think the bill was just the, the bill that the hospital build the insurance company for this procedure one knee one torn meniscus? Well having experience in this with these deals I can tell my story after your done I would guess $45,000. $119,000. I'm low. The insurance company... Wait let's back off this was outpatient? Outpatient! Then you go in and you go out and you go out so you go in they do the quick operation but you know poking away and that was then you go out and that's a hundred twenty thousand dollars just the hospital not the surgeon not the anesthesiologist

2:46:37 So I'll just leave it at that. The insurance company paid the hospital how much do you think? I'm sorry, they settled on an amount. What do you think the settled amount was? Wait this is above and beyond a 120? No no so no one's gonna pay $119,000 dollars! No one has that it's not going to happen So then the insurance company does a deal with the hospital And they wind up paying the hospital how much Am I gonna guess higher or lower? No, lower. Much lower. Yeah 60 thousand. No 20 thousand and then the hospital says well the bill was really 2112 so you owe us $1200 which is probably a reasonable amount for this surgery What?! Oh yeah! This is ridiculous Yep The anesthesiologist I think was Tina would know but it was something like 17 thousand dollars he winds up getting 550

2:47:42 Which is reasonable! So they just have all these numbers going back and forth, and then they always try to just soak you. But well I'm sorry insurance only covers $20,000 so you have to pay the $1200 out of pocket on top of the thousand you already paid which is really yeah 2400 bucks kind of reasonable for in front out just for the hospital for a bed room in-and-out boom done Yeah. But if you had no insurance, then you're screwed for the rest of your life? Right! That's why they forced insurance. So yeah, you'd have to pay the 119. Yeah. Yeah that's the point. This was a... probably something like this happened when Jay had her appendix taken out when I was working for Mevio and Blue Cross picked it up and the bill was... And this was outpatient she went in

2:48:39 They you know Gave her a local or something and they went in with two probes. I didn't even go Dame cut her open They just had these not just stick a little tube in their little fiber couple tubes Yeah, one TV look at the other one that cut yep pull out the appendix and then Patch her up and out she goes 30 35 thousand nice And then to make it even more of a joke So this is the kicker, was after I had left MeVio because then moved to LA. They also got rid of me they didn't even offer me a job down there and one of the reasons was because... It's ageism! it was ageism i tell you Well there was ageism involved no doubt about that but.. And I should have sued But they told me afterwards what they were paying for my Blue Cross

2:49:32 Yeah, you told me this like $5,000 a month or something. $4500 a month! But that was for the whole family Oh, gee. Yeah me Mimi and Jay the kids are all grown up so there was only the three of us that's why we have crowd health man we've got the crowd health it's like how that works out it works very well things scam it's a scam bola yeah but Tina has used these these collectives they work very well they negotiate with the hospital the hospitals is okay wow it's really 20 grand okay when I was a kid

2:50:09 This system, this system never existed. You just rubbed dirt on it and kept going? No they had doctors that did house calls Oh yes good times In their Cadillacs Did very well for themselves Everybody paid cash There was no insurance in between no go to the mill Here's a chicken TooManyEggs.com Thanks Doc Yeah Doc Holloway We love you man And there was...you pay cash Prices were reasonable, but they were you know was a doctor so he had to pay something yeah And they made good money But if you look at the real the kicker here is all I have to do is look at these insurance companies and the billions in The billions and the billions of dollars that they put on their annual report of profit

2:50:52 That money is being taken out of your pocket to support just a bunch of bureaucrats in an insurance company. Which is a bank, basically Yeah so this is not real... This is not a health care system at all. This is a scam It's a scam care system Yes We're going to wrap it up, John. I have one more clip is an important development that has taken place in Australia of the first of its kind ever in the world. Australia has gotten closer to banning children under 16 from using social media. The country's House of Representatives passed a bill today leaving it to the Senate to finalize the law which would be the first of its kind in the world. The law would make platforms like TikTok and Instagram liable for fines of up to 50 million Australian dollars if they fail

2:51:35 prevent young children from holding accounts. Those platforms would have one year to work out how to implement the age restrictions before the penalties are enforced." This is a very interesting development, it's a testing ground. Yeah you know what's good about it? It's definitely gonna work because for example... When you're a 60 or let's say, 14 year old there is no way you are ever going to get any alcohol. Or even drive a car do anything like that? Or smoke weed in the bathroom because it is illegal so none of those things happen with kids and teens. No! So how they gonna do this? This will definitely work cause kids are stupid they don't know anything like Kamala said they're stupid They don't know how VPN works when one of them finds out they don't tell others That never happens

2:52:17 Okay, yeah just just saying just throwing that out there I understand but it's gonna be interesting to see how and there's amendments now being proposed That you know You can't require so not only can you not have kids under 16 using your product? But you can't force. You can't tell governments that they need to provide digital IDs So it's the whole thing is a mess. I don't know how they're gonna do it Doesn't it just come down to parents? There are a lot of parents around here who just, and you know I've been at dinner with parents and their young boys ages ranging 7 to 13-14. And we'll be having pizza and we're chatting because everyone always loves my phone, my flip phone like that's kind of fun. They said well our kids aren't allowed to have phones. You always look with the boys

2:53:12 And they always have that really sad look on their face. It's like, I'm the outcast of the group! I don't have a phone! But the parents are doing it and there's a lot of parents who make agreements. My buddy Dave Jones... The parents within the school, within the class that his daughter goes to They've all organized themselves They got together and said we're all gonna agree no phones for these kids and none of them have phones It's good development here in Fredericksburg, no phones in the school. That should be I don't understand why their phones in the school in the first place. How did it ever become? Okay to have phones in the school It's the parents who say well, I might need to reach my daughter or she might need to reach me in an emergency how often does that happen but it's like having a it's like if you go and I remember in the olden days You'd go to some restaurant in Beverly Hills And there'd be some

2:54:09 Some top producer, they'd put a phone on his table. Like a...phone with wire. With the wire! It's like excuse me, this is Dvorak phone call for you. And so you have that situation and it was always seen as like a little bit pretentious now everybody has a phone at the restaurant and there was a, the first few years of these phones in restaurants people would go ah it's rude. People were talking on the phone in the restaurant and then after awhile they just caved okay so now everybody is on the phone all the time everywhere. It's like how did it become okay for that? And how did it become okay to have a phone that can ring in a classroom

2:54:51 It's not about the phone port. It's about the internet part, it's about the apps, it's about the dopamine hits... ...it's about the social media. It's about why do they allow it? If we were running the country things would be better! I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda Imagine all those people who could take that Oh yeah that'd be fab Yeah on NO AGENDA Yes, we do some exciting things on the way including John's tip of the day. We also have a couple of doctors of education to congratulate today along with title change and of course some meetups but first we want to thank everybody who supported this particular episode of The No Agenda Show $50 or above Yeah there is a few starting with Francis Sheehy in Worcester

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3:07:42 So there's none today, of course. I didn't really expect that at all You could have had some around the rest of the world but nothing happened We do have one coming up on Saturday That is the Noah Jonas Central Ohio meetup five o'clock at Dempsey's in Columbus Ohio On the list though we have a really long list of meetups throughout the month of December. It's really, it's popular December to have meet-ups but they also go into January and February. Yeah as a Christmas party! As a substitute for the once established office Christmas parties that send them by the wayside. Oh good!

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3:09:02 Hang out with all the nights and days You wanna be where you won't be Triggered or held to blame Be where everybody feels the same It's like a party Now did you have any bring-any ISOs? I have two, but before we do that i wanted to mention something. Did you know that yesterday Wednesday the day before Thanksgiving is called Blackout Wednesday Is that when you get black out drunk Yeah! There was a report on KTVU or local news station about police are out in force trying to pick up drunks Really?! They arrest more drunks on Blackout Wednesday than at any other time of year. I did not know that

3:09:48 I find it, you'd think you know that by the... You know. I never heard of this before. I don't know? I was too blacked out to hear the report? Blackout Wednesday! Alright what are your ISOs? I got two. Okay. And then i got amazing. That show was amazing Not bad not bad and then I got the dummies Happy Thanksgiving you big dummies Well they're both kind of good I don't think i have anything that can compete. I have this... No, that's no good compared to those is no good at this one and then the only possible contender You probably couldn't hear it. Yeah, it's mumbling yeah It says what you got in your mouth? Which is kind of which is like a guess semi appropriate for Thanksgiving But let me say happy thanksgiving you big dummies. I kinda like that show was amazing Wow, it's a tough choice John

3:10:45 What do you think? I think you can pick either one. They're both a winner Yeah, but I'll ask YOU! You choose...I'm too tired to choose. I think happy th- well the problem is going people dummies is probably negative Let's do amazing shall we just do amazing that show was amazing because it is amazing The show was amazing not only is the show amazing know what else is amazing John's tip of the day! Great advice for you and me Just the tip with JCD And sometimes Adam So, uh... this tip came from Jay. Our back office worker. Also known as your daughter! She and Brennan who got married I don't know over a year ago they could finally going on their honeymoon. Oh how nice And they're gonna go to Japan and Dame

3:11:36 Astrid and Mark are both going to show them, you know take him somewhere. Oh no no they're gonna meet up with him and they're gonna hand deliver the Commodore ship to him I think is a surprise but now it's not a surprise They are going to be shown a good time Mark and Dave Astrid are top-notch people. Yeah, and I told them you know well who are these people? Well they're two famous architects on Japan. They're just kind of really famous I'm just saying yeah they're just kind of famous yes. Yeah kinda famous so but Jay's got chickens

3:12:13 Oh, who's gonna take care of the chickens? Who's gonna take care of the chickens I asked her because they said do I have them thinking Do I have to go there and put the chickens in that coop me. I mean so adapted So some what they're gonna have friends go over there and look at the house daily daily But the chicken thing is going to be taken care of by the automatic chicken coop door No which is today's tip of the day for you people that think about having chickens but don't want to deal with putting them in the coop every night and then locking them in. The automatic chick, look at it, Amazon has got a good one that they want to sell us 42 bucks cheap. It's digital, its got an anti-pinch feature so doesn't crush any chickens. It's got a timer,

3:13:00 So what happens is that you set it up and the chickens are out roaming around eating bugs and cleaning your yard up. And then when it gets dark, chickens naturally go back into the coop. That's what they always do. They just do it! And then as soon as it gets dark, the chicken coop door closes. Yes? And locks them in there and of course I ask what happens if it locks in a raccoon well you know... Well You're gonna have a raccoon in there anyway. Uh and then it opens the next day and chickens go back out and they've been using for couple weeks so I guess it works like a champ So people out there looking to get chickens

3:13:40 Look into the automatic chicken coop door. And when will they be coming back? In three weeks? No, no, they're coming back in like 10 days or so. Okay, okay So in ten days tip of the day will be the Amazon chicken remnant vacuum cleaner. You can guarantee it! There is ladies and gentlemen! Tipoftheday.net, noagendafund.com CreativeVice for you and me. Just a tip with JCDean, and sometimes Adam. Oh my my what a great tip! Always a good tip here John's Tip of the Day everybody

3:14:23 And that does it for our Thanksgiving spectacular. Thank you all for being here, the trolls, our live studio audience and those of you who are out there all have no agenda nation, all our producers who produce in all facets and all manners thank you I am personally very thankful for you and i'm sure I speak on behalf of my partner End of show mixes. We got the mayor, Sir Michael Anthony, the mayor of New York City wish you a happy Thanksgiving Jeffrey Crocker David Kechter who is auditioning What's he auditioning for? He was auditioning for a band That guy is an amazing drummer. He has a drum kit that's out-of-control

3:15:03 in his house. Go look him up on YouTube, David Kecta is good Up next on the No Agenda stream we've got that Larry show That's right that Larry guy and Darren O And their episode is Trump The Greatest Comeback Since Jesus Christ Well wait until JC comes back he ain't seen nothing yet Coming to you from the heart of Texas Hill Country In the morning everybody and happy Thanksgiving I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where, hey there's a couple football games on. Let's watch that I'm John C. Dvorak Remember us at knowagenthedonations.com We'll see you on Sunday Adios mofos a hooey hooey and such

3:15:42 Happy Thanksgiving, New York City! As your plant-based centered mayor I'ma eat a plant based centered lifestyle even on a holiday. Y'all eating turkey and ham while i am eating tofurkey and yams Enjoy your meat while you can We already had meatless Mondays in school. Then I brung vegan Fridays! And we going to keep trying to make all y'all plant-based, but if you still got to eat meat the FDA just approved live grown chicken for human consumption and if your still not satisfied with that we gonna make ya'll eat crickets and cockroaches Like I said enjoy that roast while you can Ya'll gonna be eating rats But what is Lindy Hop?

3:16:28 You can actually kill somebody's cat and puncture their tires to get them to shut up. So, you know... This is what you get when you go through a trailer park with $100 bills? Yeah no well whether you like it or not I really don't care We could make money and have economic relationship Ukraine that be very beneficial To enrich ourselves with rare earth minerals containing bad guys I don't even understand what that means Let me come back and you know give you a better explanation this war is about money Lindsey Graham's not the problem Here's the problem as I see it. You don't have any friends go make some friends fight this bullshit This is going to destroy America We're gonna fight back at the ballot box

3:17:17 We're not gonna give in. Buy that text, what you say Step aside partner it's my day Bend an ear and listen to my version Hatred Of a really solid Tennessee excursion Pardon me boy is that Putin? Yes yes Kick his ass Boy you can give me a shine That's how this wins.

3:18:21 MSN, he would go under some federal regulation. Who's regulating CNN right now? The FCC We are under attack Russia has been using different levers in this case it's influencers like Donald Trump like Elon Musk to really kind of sow discord and it is particularly troubling with Elon Musk because Elon Musk has access to state secrets He has top secret security clearance It's possible that somebody is seeping through both Trump and Elon. But the Democrat Party has to do differently, they need to change their policies. The best podcast in the universe! Adios mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N A. That show was amazing