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00:00 It was all corrupt. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. Sunday, July 21st, 2024. This is your award-winning Gibbon Nation Media assassination episode 1679. This is no agenda. Battling blue screens and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas snow country here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're all saying false flag. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning. Even better than that, breaking, breaking, breaking! Alert, alert, alert, alert! Biden drops out. He just dropped out. He just dropped out? Literally minutes before we started.

00:43 Well, he didn't drop out during the speech. Yeah, I know, I know. You're going to rub that in my face? I didn't say anything. I just said he didn't drop out during the speech. I thought you were going to rub it in my face. Which is when he should have dropped out. Yeah, well, they had a different distraction in mind. Remember, the whole idea was to distract from the RNC, to have Biden drop out Sunday night or, sorry, Thursday night or Friday morning. Didn't happen. Instead, we got a glitch. You want to hear his note, what he wrote here? Yes, please. Now, I had to check it with other mainstream sources because it's not on official presidential letterhead, which I found to be suspicious. I know. Could be Babylon B. Well, then I went to, let's just go to CNN.com. Biden drops out of race. Okay. So if we're duped, everybody's duped. My fellow Americans.

01:38 Over the past three and a half years we've made great progress as a nation. Blah blah blah blah blah. I know none of this can be done without you, the American people. Blah blah blah. We protected our democracy. It has been the greatest honor of my life to serve as your president and while it has been my intention to seek re-election, I believe it is in the best interest of my party and the country for me to stand down and focus solely on fulfilling my duties as president for the remainder of my term. I guess they finalized the deal. Yes, as Vivek put it, so aptly put it in his analysis. What did he say? Well, we did play four or five clips of him deconstructing them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he said that he's just holding out for a better deal. Yeah, well, we knew that. I mean, we didn't know... Vivek listens to this show. We didn't need him to repeat what we're saying.

02:29 The president does say he wants to thank Vice President Kamala Harris for being an extraordinary partner in all this work and let me express my heartfelt appreciation for the American people. So no news on what they're going to do now. So I'm sure, you know, it's like... But we know what they're going to do. They're going to have to pick Kamala. If they don't... Or Kamala, depends. Is she black? It's Kamala. She's white. She's Kamala. It could be either one. I mean, as long as it's her, because if you don't pick Kamala, Kamala. You lose the black vote. You lose that. That would be especially after all this black judge, black guy in the military, you know, all that stuff. Well, that was brought up on the Brooks... I didn't want to start with that. By the way, Brooks... Sorry we did. Brooks... I think Brooks listens to this show.

03:19 What did he say? Well, he said, No Agenda is a great podcast. Well, first of all, it would be hard to imagine that someone hadn't said, hey, have you heard the podcast that rips on you all the time? So I'm sure someone said that to him at some point. He wrote in his column, in his column. Yes, this is true. You would eventually at some point, after getting ripped on for years, of course, you'd think maybe you'd tune in at least once. Of course. It's like unavoidable. It's unavoidable. Someone in the column. Yes, hold on a second. I'm gonna get it up here. If Democrats want to beat MAGA, it's not enough to say, Orange Man Bad. Orange Man Bad. I actually got a couple of people emailing that to me. Hey, hey, Brooks is listening to your show.

04:12 Did we come up with Orange Man Bad? I don't know. I don't think we came up with it, but we have incessantly... Orange Man Bad. We have used that quite a lot. So thanks, Brooks. Next time, best podcast in the universe. So, you know, well, I guess... Oh, man, it's so annoying. The news cycle has been... I got whiplash. I got whiplash. There's so much going. We had an assassination attempt. We had a meandering rambling speech. Then we know let's start with that. I I watched the entire convention because it was it was a show it was fabulous. It was a good show Yeah, if you it doesn't win an Emmy for best production. Oh I'm telling you when they put the flashing trunk that big Trump in lights and then he came out and they that was good that would that was virtual sets left and right the White House behind him the White House I loved I

05:10 From for multiple reasons, but when they brought out comparators uniform. Yeah, I mean, everything was just fantastic. But they will wait. I mean, you think they'd win an Emmy? They should. But no, well, go to some Netflix special. I mean, it had something for everybody. It even satisfied the Jesus freak in me. There was everything, anything, everything for everybody including... So all you criminals, all you lowlifes, all you scumbags, all you drug dealers, and all you crooked politicians need to answer one question brother. What you gonna do when Donald Trump and all the Trumpamaniacs run wild on you brother?

05:59 I think the count was about 18 times you said brother. No actually it was nine. I had to go over and under at eight. It was pretty good. I also think when it comes to television production for my taste it was brilliantly timed. People were like it was too long he wasn't even in prime time. Well no no no. He came on at like 1030 East Coast time. It was yeah, it was after 10. Yeah, it was close to 1030. So the first half hour of him talking about, you know, that was all the solemn kind of stuff and talk. And he's I'm only going to talk about this once. Of course, he's been talking about it nonstop since then. That was all up until the 11 o'clock hour. And I think, you know, if people just wanted to see it and get a get a taste,

06:55 And then everyone who really was interested could watch all the way to the end. I thought the timing was brilliant. He hit that prime time slot perfectly and then all the other stuff that he likes to do after, you know, the... His normal set. His normal shtick, yeah. I do have two wrap-ups. So, I hate wrap-ups. Because right after he was done, I mean, it was right, it was like rambling, meandering, hasn't changed a bit, no good, we're back in the race. We're back in the race. Actually, I got two clips too after you're done, but let me just say, like I said, I watched the whole thing and a couple of things. One, I thought it was just a classic

07:39 Set you know where he does his bits. He does his jokes. I don't think it was rambling it was you know because he changes He does change topics quickly, but it's to keep the audience alert It's very professional at that mm-hmm And I watched the whole 92 minutes which everyone made a point of 92 minutes longer than a movie longer than a movie I watched the whole 92 minutes and I didn't have any troubles keeping up with it or listening to it. Mimi bitched about it, everybody on the West Coast, everyone watched the whole thing because it was earlier. But it was like, I didn't find it to be that rambling or bad or anything off his normal pace or, you know, I don't know. I don't personally get it. No, I thought it was fine. What I thought was interesting, I did not clip it,

08:25 is at one point he said it's been such a great convention I hope I don't blow it oh boy I just gave them an idea which he literally did or maybe he was just telegraphing he knew that that's what the media would do was go oh it was a great convention until Trump spoke because that was pretty much what everybody said here's Anna Navarro I'm speaking to fellow Christians I was raised Catholic I'm a Christian girl When something like this happens to you like this assassination attempt and you say something like God is watching it was watching me That is a very unchristian thing to say because it's very narcissistic. What about what about Cory? What's his name? I really care about that Cory. What's his name guy say because it's very nice. Wow what about

09:17 What about Corey, what's his name? What about all those guys who got killed on Sandy Hook? All of those people. It's oh God was watching me and not watching them. There's something very disturbing. God should have pulled the plug on that mic yesterday. This was very consistent, you know, it's like, oh God only save President Trump but doesn't save Ukrainians or children or filander... That is a classic. Very classic atheist nonsense. But the best wrap-up, and I think this is also award-winning,

09:55 Has to be from Joy Reid. Kudos to Joy. Trump's big campaign moment last night followed an introduction from the ultimate fighting championship chief Dana White. Infamous for getting caught on tape slapping his wife during a New Year's party. Do you remember this? Have you heard of this? No, I don't know this. By the way, Biden just gave his full support to Kamala. And a shirt ripping endorsement from Hulk Hogan, the longtime WWE character now infamous for dropping F-bombs and suing Gawker out of existence with billionaire Peter Thiel's money. I think she missed the part where he got radically saved and baptized like a year ago, but okay. But needless to say, Trump really dug their presentations.

09:17 What about Corey, what's his name? What about all those guys who got killed on Sandy Hook? All of those people. It's oh God was watching me and not watching them. There's something very disturbing. God should have pulled the plug on that mic yesterday. This was very consistent, you know, it's like, oh God only save President Trump but doesn't save Ukrainians or children or filander... That is a classic. Very classic atheist nonsense. But the best wrap-up, and I think this is also award-winning,

09:55 Has to be from Joy Reid. Kudos to Joy. Trump's big campaign moment last night followed an introduction from the ultimate fighting championship chief Dana White. Infamous for getting caught on tape slapping his wife during a New Year's party. Do you remember this? Have you heard of this? No, I don't know this. By the way, Biden just gave his full support to Kamala. And a shirt ripping endorsement from Hulk Hogan, the longtime WWE character now infamous for dropping F-bombs and suing Gawker out of existence with billionaire Peter Thiel's money. I think she missed the part where he got radically saved and baptized like a year ago, but okay. But needless to say, Trump really dug their presentations.

10:39 And there was also failed rapper turned some kind of musician or other, you know, MAGA character, Kid Rock. Wow. He's one of the most successful touring acts of the moment. After the intro. Yeah, that's true. I mean, it's just OK, but he's packing them in. This is good. This is good. After the intros, Trump made a dramatic entrance, strutting onto the stage with his last name emblazoned behind him in bright, tacky lights. And he delivered what was essentially a rally speech, a bizarre and boring stream of consciousness rant full of lies, complaints, and xenophobia. All of this despite Trump and some in the media assuring us that he was a changed man seeking, what was it again? Oh yes, unity.

11:20 My colleagues and I, we all had the speech in front of us last night, OK? And the audience could also see the speech in this big teleprompter. So we were trying to follow along as Trump veered off script and deep into a rambling series of lies that stretched the speech from a time like maybe 25 minutes to more than 90. Journalists in the room reported that as Trump just banged on and on, audience members were checking their phones, stealing glances at the teleprompters, slumping in their chairs and even falling asleep. Some even left. Oh wow, okay. Good job, Joy. Good job. Well, you don't have the clip where she equates Biden getting COVID with Trump getting shot. We played that in the last show. Oh, did we? Yeah, you want to hear it again? I do have it. Yes, play it again. Hold on a second.

12:09 Here it is. Donald Trump is an elderly man who for whatever reason was given... This may be a re... Is she doing this again? Because I remember she did it live with Jen Psaki sitting there. Or does it... Psaki? It sounds... Yes, she was sitting there with Jen Psaki. Maybe this is the same one. Donald Trump is an elderly man who for for whatever reason was given nine seconds to take a iconic photo op during an active shooter situation. His survival of that and bouncing right back and going right to his convention is being conveyed in the media world as a sign of strength. This current president of the United States is 81 years old and has COVID.

12:52 Should he be fine in a couple of days? Doesn't that convey exactly the same thing? That he's strong enough, older than Trump, to have gotten something that used to really be fatal to people his age. I think we played that on Thursday. So if you take and listen to that, how does she rationalize Trump getting shot, coming back on stage, going out and giving a speech to Biden, getting COVID, then quitting the campaign? You're not actually taking her serious. You're not going to deconstruct what she's saying. No, I'm just saying, you have to take her serious enough that she's influential or she wouldn't be on the air. And you know these people, there's a study that was just recently done by Fox that says

13:33 One in three Democrats believe that the shooting was false flag. Yeah, hold on I have I have one of the premier here Here it is the premier guy Keith Olbermann after five days of no confirmation That the injury to Trump's ear in the assassination attempt was actually from a bullet. We have to now assume that that they're lying about something that happened to Trump on Saturday. No one has confirmed it and there is no good reason why no one has confirmed it. All that and much more on the Thursday countdown edition of the podcast now available wherever you podcast. Wherever you podcast. Wherever you podcast. Greg Detfield saw the wound. He says it was real. By the way, Trump is fake but Sandy Hook was real. Just saying.

14:27 So let's play this, deconstructing Trump. This is PBS along the lines of your last clips. He made good on the promise of a unifying tone. As Americans, we are bound together by a single fate and a shared destiny. We rise together or we fall apart. He shared the story of surviving last weekend's assassination attempt. The amazing thing is that prior to the shot, if I had not moved my head at that very last instant, The assassins bullet would have perfectly hit its mark and I would not be here tonight. But after that, the tone and rhetoric shifted as Trump staying on brand repeatedly went off script, repeating some stump speech claims that Republicans love but which don't hold up.

15:17 Under my presidency, we had the most secure border and best economy in the history of our country, in the history of the world. We had no inflation, soaring incomes. So we call that false. We spoke to Lou Jacobson of PolitiFact. But for all the standard metrics, things like the unemployment rate, things like wages, wage growth, GDP, these The first three years of Trump's tenure were not somehow the greatest in the U.S. history. We can find examples of better economies in the 60s, for instance, much less the entire world. Now, a couple of things there. One, he says we had, Trump says we had no inflation. We had the inflation rate was 1.8. That's not zero. So they call that a lie.

16:11 We didn't have no inflation, we had 1.8, that's inflation, it's small, it's low. They don't know what inflation even means. And the other thing is they never disputed his border policy. They just said he lied about his hyperbolic comment that we had the best economy in the history of the world, which is, you know, nobody's taking that too seriously. There's probably been better economies during the Roman times, but who cares? But if you measure by the Dow at the time, The Dow was hitting new records, everyone's 401k was doing great. Well if you're gonna, if you would do that and you wanted to call it a lie, the way you would do it correctly, in my opinion, would be to say, well you know he bragged about the Dow but Biden has taken it to new record highs, which he has. I mean it's way over what it should be, it's in the 40,000s now. Yeah but they can't give Biden credit for anything over there at PBS because he's got to go.

17:12 He's got to go. And he went. Anyway, here's part two of this. Another example. Bad things are going to happen. Meanwhile, our crime rate is going up while crime statistics all over the world are going down. That is mostly false. So violent crimes, the things that people really care probably the most about, have been consistently going down under Biden. In terms of property crimes, at least some kinds of property crimes, particularly motor vehicle thefts, Those actually are up. So there's a grain of truth there. But for the most part, most types of crime, despite all that you hear on TV and from Trump himself, actually, if you look at the total number and the percentage, it's been going down for several years in a row. Oh, man.

18:07 Now, Miranuka, who cares? Well, I didn't play the clip because nobody cares. The point is, and PBS refuses to acknowledge it, and very few outlets will, which is that for the last couple of years, the way crime statistics are reported has been changed at the FBI level. which is never mentioned, so the numbers are always going to vary from what they used to be because the way it's reported has changed. And the police departments aren't reporting, in some cases, anything because they just figure what's the point. You end up with a lot of unreported crimes and there's a lot of crimes like in California because of Prop 47.

18:55 the shoplifting crimes that none of these are reported. These are unreported so we have a situation where the reporting is completely screwed up so we really don't know have a clue about how bad it is. The biggest crime is Joy Reid is still on the air I mean that's a crime right there. That's a callback. It's like it's like Fredericksburg you know if you look at our newspaper Oh, we had the Sunshine Festival, the Wine and Cheese Festival. Everything's groovy. They don't talk about the drug dealing, talk about the theft. Oh no, it's all good. It's all beautiful. It's all beautiful. Is there drug dealing in Fredericksburg? I don't think so. Oh, absolutely. Really? We have MS-13 up here. Oh yeah. They just live here. You have MS-13 in Fredericksburg? Yeah, they work in Kerrville, but they live in Fredericksburg.

19:44 For sure for sure. That's why we elected a new sheriff. Everyone's sick of it So we I want it I want to have three short clips here because Trump went to Michigan the next day or yes Yes, I saw part of that and and he has some new shtick He has some funny new shtick which I like a lot. Normally this is your beat. I have three quick punchlines, all less than 30 seconds. And this is his first one. This is about, as he promised, he would never talk about the shooting again. So of course he's talking about the shooting again and talking about him looking off to the sign. I never look at the sign. I never look over there.

20:26 It's amazing, you know, I would have been dead, what a great sign. Look at the great results that we had on immigration, just look at them. If I didn't say that, and it's because we had like a crane holding this massive sign, I call it the million dollar sign, it's very expensive. But that sign was very good, I think I'm going to sleep with it tonight. Good one, good schtick. Okay, he did a prelude to that because as he was riffing on the RNC speech, it came to him to talk about the importance of the sign because he was doing that. That's not the bit he did but I could see where he developed it. Yeah, no, it's a good bit and then

21:18 This is an obvious one. What they do is misinformation and disinformation and they keep saying he's a threat to democracy. I'm saying what the hell did I do for democracy? Last week I took a bullet for democracy. What did I do against democracy? Come on man, that's what you want from your president. You want jokes. And this last one, self-deprecating humor from Trump is always dynamite. You know I have to just interject if you would turn off those cameras because I don't want this. See the screen up there of me? That's very severe that comb over. That's a severe sucker. What's with that one? It looks okay from the other side.

22:05 But that is very severe. I apologize. Man. I looked up there, I said, whoa. Look at that. Wow. That's like a work of art. I mean, making jokes about your own comb-over is, that's just classic. That's great. That's really good. You know, and the thing is about a good third of the public Doesn't see any humor in anything he does. No. It's just beyond me. It's hilarious. So I do have the clips from Brooks and Capehart talking about all this. Okay, yeah, let's do that. And then before we get to some shooter stuff, because I do have some things to talk about there, let us also do the CrowdStrike thing. But let's go to Brooks and Capehart. Oh, yeah, I got... Yeah, now we have... I have a... We gotta talk about it. Yeah, you saw the CrowdStrike stuff. Yeah, everyone's... We all got CrowdStrike. It's too much. It's too much CrowdStrike. But yes, okay. Capehart... But it's important. Yeah, it is.

23:04 Okay, here we go. Brooks and Capar, this was on last Friday's PBS NewsHour. We were all together every night of the Republican National Convention. You were there as night after night, Jonathan. People would say, Mr. Trump has been changed. He's a more contemplative man now. After that attempt on his life that he's going to deliver a unity message that turned out not to be true when we heard his speech. What did you take away from his remarks in the end? Well, what we heard last night in Milwaukee was his stump speech. Now, most people probably didn't realize that was his stump speech because the convention is the one time when maybe more people than usual are watching. This was an opportunity for Donald Trump to represent himself to the nation, certainly after the attempted assassination, the assassination attempt.

23:52 But what we saw in the first 30 minutes was, you know, sort of new, sort of measured Donald Trump. But at the 30 minute mark, just about, in came crazy Nancy Pelosi. And it went downhill. By the way, 30 minutes, exactly what I said, right after prime time. And then he's off to the races. in came crazy Nancy Pelosi and it went downhill from there. And so it was grievance, it was anger, there was a lot of attention paid to illegal immigration and what he wanted to do about that. And I just think it was a missed opportunity on the point

24:28 on the part of the former president because he's been basically silent for the last three weeks because of the implosion happening on the Democratic side. And yet he took that took that chance yesterday and just showed the country what his party, what his faithful have been seeing for months now. Now, before we continue, let's just talk for a second about Trump's thinking here, because they handed out the written speech to the media, or at least pieces of it, before he spoke and they were already, because I was switching around, they were ramping up to it. Oh, it's going to be really reconciliatory, it's going to be unifying. What is his, besides the strategy that I think he had, which is let me do all that stuff in prime time and then let it rip, what do you think about his thinking of going in and out and bringing back some of the tropes?

25:21 I thought it was, I enjoyed the speech. I didn't even think it was that long. In fact, of course, I was talking to Mimi about this again and we've documented this, the two of us on this show starting in 2015, where we started to notice him go long because when he first began as a candidate, it was going around 20, 25 minutes. Maybe even shorter and then he would start to stretch it further and further and further and this is one of those things where He got when he got to an hour We used to comment on he was doing an hour we go from place to place to place sometimes two or three speeches a day And he do an hour they started doing 115. Yeah, then he got like this most got into around a

26:07 He's doing consistently doing an hour and a half, but he's holding the audience. It's not like, you know, people were walking out in droves because he was so boring because he's not. I think it's great. Yeah, me too. And I think the audience thought so as well. In fact, if anything, they wanted more. They wanted a little more of that. Like when I was watching, I didn't think he had gone the hour and a half and he was at 92 minutes when he quit. It's just, I think his pace and flow is good. I think he knows how to do this right. He's got it down. He's worked on it so many times that he can do an hour and a half like falling off a log. He can probably move it up to 145 even though I think that'd be pushing it. By the way, can I just say, that's not easy to do. You're a public speaker. I'm a public speaker. It's very hard to do. An hour and a half.

26:57 You can do an if you're a public speaker, it's usually very easy to do an hour. 45 minutes and then Q&A. Done. That's the typical public speaker. But to do an hour and a half solid of pretty much off the cuff, I mean he does go to the prompter and you can tell the difference because of his cadence. But doing an hour and a half with or without, I mean when I give a lot of speeches I would use PowerPoint presentations. as the prompter. Because I would have a bullet points up. 30 slides you know you're going to be about 38 minutes. I would probably run around 20 slides but each slide would have a bunch of really bullet points on it.

27:43 I would tag the slide if I was if I start to forget what I was gonna be talking I would pay good money for an old John C. Dvorak PowerPoint presentation I'm sure you have a more fun. You have one on and on a disk drive somewhere. I bet it's great Yeah, I bet they're great probably right next to my other stuff lost in the house Like there's anyways the point is is that you're doing hour and a half and to do it sometimes twice a day It's just ridiculous and it's it should be admired not condemned I agree I agree although you know I think in that situation the DNA the RNC he could have probably Cut it to an hour and it wouldn't nobody would complain. I like to like if it would I

28:31 I liked listening to him for an hour. I don't like listening to an hour and a half all the time because I've only heard maybe five of his whole speeches because they're just, they're too long. Yeah. But they're enjoyable, but they're just too long. I don't have that much time to just listen to them. And it wasn't Thursday night, we'd done the show, you know, you chill. Yeah, I have no problem watching on Thursday night. Hammering back a martini, you know, it's like, yeah, bring it on. This is good. Let's go. Let's go. Alright, you're hammering back a martini? After the show? I'm wasted. So anyway, onward with Brooks and Capehart because there's a couple funny bits in here. David, did we get a sense, did you get a sense of what a second Trump administration would look like from those remarks? And to Donathan's point, was that a missed opportunity? Yeah, I mean first I should say I think it was an extremely successful convention. I thought, you know, the spirit was

29:26 Unlike any other convention I've been to, people were joyful, people were unified. There were a lot of good speakers and a lot of good memorable moments. There was only one bad speaker and the problem for the Republicans was from the nominee. And so I agree with Jonathan. I agree with Jonathan. I agree with Jonathan that it was started out well and then it just deteriorated. And what it said to me, the guy had only one job. There were remarks on a teleprompter. All he had to do was read the remarks and he would be cruising. That would mean you could be president, moron. No, no, that's not how it works. Just read the teleprompter and be presidential. Read the remarks and he would stop. So I want to always start this because when I was giving a lot of talks, I would go to these events and hear other people. Obviously, you do that.

30:12 And one of the things I've always been bugged by were people that either read their speech, they had it on paper. Usually they didn't have teleprompters at most events. For most general conferences, there's not teleprompters there. If you work in a studio, there's teleprompters. But they would sit there and they had a... their speech written out, and they would read the speech for 45 minutes, like you said, 45 minutes and maybe some Q&A. And I'm thinking, why am I listening to somebody read a speech? Just send me the speech, I could probably read it to myself faster. I always found it very annoying to listen to some public speaker. The best public speakers are very conversational,

30:59 I heard Ray Bradbury was a good example. I got to see him and breakfast with him the next day too. Just a name drop there. I wonder what happened in the meantime. Ray Bradbury would just talk and it was fascinating because he's an interesting guy. By the way, that's exactly what Tucker did too. Yes. Tucker came out 10-12 minutes, no prompter, just talking. He's very good at that. Tucker is an excellent orator. Yes, I agree. Okay, I'm sorry, continue the clip. All he had to do was read the remarks and he would be cruising today. But he is incapable of self-control, incapable of non-self-indulgence, incapable of non-narcissism. And so what I took away from the speech was any

31:49 hope that some people might have had that a second Trump term would look different than the first Trump term because the guy is suddenly organized and disciplined, that hope has to go out the window. I mean, the second Trump term looks to be as shambolic and as chaotic as the first Trump term was, if it happens, because the guy's incapable of self-control. I love how everyone has to do, if he wins, you hear that constantly. Well this new Trump presidency, if it happens, they all catch themselves. Yeah, they all catch themselves. Let me make one more complaint here. Okay. Why do we have Brooks and Capehart? Like he says, I agree with him. Oh, and I agree with you more. It's like Chip and Dale. It's unbelievable. Why don't we have somebody that actually has a perspective that's different? We have two people, this is the crap that PBS puts out, and it shouldn't be supported by anybody that listens to this show. They have two people that are in total agreement with each other, and all they do is reconfirm what the other guy said. This is not

32:45 any value to the audience. And that's why we're giving it to our audience so they can have valueless, valueless entertainment. Okay, that's a good one. Nice try. Onward number three? Yes, please. Much more dangerous kind of vicious language targeting really black and brown immigrants talking about them carrying disease and attacking women and stealing jobs. Did that stick out to you at all? If he had said that... I didn't hear black and brown immigrants. I didn't hear that. Whatever. Stealing jobs. Did that stick out to you at all? Yes, I did. It's paradoxical in that I can't remember another ticket where both candidates are married to an immigrant or children of immigrants. Legal immigrants. You know, I think what's happened is that global populism has done two things.

33:36 One, it's fed on each other. The Orban's, the Georgia Maloney's, the Marine Le Pen's and... This has to stop too, by the way. This is a very mainstream thing when you are just an empty suit of vapid waste of CO2. The Georgia Maloney's, the Tucker Carlson's, the Keith Olbermann's, there's only one of each of those people. It's starting to work on my nerves. You know what I mean? But what do you think that the psychology is behind doing it? Right, you know, they cite Orban and they're trying to demonize these people by grouping them together. Yeah, but you group them by like this. There's only one Georgia Maloney. There's not a whole bunch of Georgia Maloney's. There's no one. She's a totally different person than Marie Le Pen and totally different than Orban. They're very singular. The only thing they have maybe in common is what these guys like to define as popular. You don't say populism. You don't say the Adolf Hitler's.

34:41 You know, there was only one. So it's a weird thing and I think it shows low IQ, honestly. One, it's fed on each other. The Orban's, the Georgia Maloney's, the Marine Le Pen's. Why don't you just say Orban, Maloney, Le Pen? That would be, I don't know. There's something weird about it that I haven't quite figured out. MAGA is a much more intellectually serious movement than it was. It has an agenda, it has a group of intellectuals, it has a group of magazines, all of which is... Magazines? I hadn't heard that. I hadn't heard the magazines. I don't know anything about the magazines. By the way, I think that's a fantastic product. You know, AR... Magazine. AR-15 magazines.

35:41 I'm telling you, there's a product right there. Hello, Noah Gender Shoppe. All of which is personified by JD Vance. And the fact that the Teamsters president was represented there was a sign that something much bigger here is happening. Trump's grievance and the ugliness is true. But the idea that there is an intellectual movement here on defense of the working class, that is also true. And so I think both those realities, one kind of impressive the way they've intellectually come together around that agenda and the other kind of alarming that the level of prejudice seems only to increase. Rather alarming. The level of prejudice. Prejudice seems to increase. Oh my God. This is the way they talk on the Upper East Side at those dinner parties.

36:29 Oh yes, what do you think, Brooks? Well, I think the level of... Yeah, is there some... Yeah, that's... Yeah. It's so far divorced from normal people and podcasters that they're losing my attention. Luckily only one more. Do you need set up? No setup. This is the K-Part telling it like it is. Jonathan, you referenced the implosion within the Democratic Party right now. Tell me about how what we saw happen inside the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee is impacting what's happening on the Democratic ticket right now. It doesn't seem like it's impacting it at all, but I just want to push back on one thing that David said. There was more than one bad speaker.

37:10 Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, Eric Trump, Speaker Johnson. These were people who were also feeding red meat to the Trump faithful in the hall. Now, you would think that the Democrats would be focused on not just Donald Trump's speech, but all the other speeches that were happening in the lead up to Senator Vance's speech and Donald Trump's speech. But instead, Democrats have been spending all their time trying to push out the sitting president of their own party from running as the nominee of their party. And you have the president having contracted COVID, being in isolation in Rehoboth, having all of these people

37:51 the share The big concern I have is, great, you guys succeed in getting President Biden to give up his presidential bid. But you don't say who should be the top of the ticket. And I'll say it again, if Vice President Kamala Harris is not the top of the ticket, Democrats are guaranteed to lose. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Mo says so too. If they pass over the- They're guaranteed to lose anyway with her. Oh, but it'll be fun. It'll be fun.

38:52 She's terrible. So Moe thinks that the blacks are going to turn out in droves to vote for Kamala Harris or Kamala? No. Is her name Kamala? Like it should be pronounced if she was black or Kamala if she was a white girl. What Moe is saying is that the black women who still are all in will be outraged. They will be. The black women will come out, but the black women would have voted for Biden so it wouldn't really change anything. But they might bail if they can. They won't vote. They won't go vote. Yeah, no, I agree with that. But what about the black men? Does he have anything to say about that? I can't see any black male wanting to vote for Kamala Harris. No, they're voting for Trump. They're voting for Trump. But I'm just saying that from a party perspective, skipping over the black woman would be destructive to their entire being.

39:50 put this into play a long time ago. It can't be done. Couple of things, and then I want to go to CrowdStrike and then we'll come back to it because the conspiracy therapist needs to step in. The last song that Trump played, I guess he does the playlist, I think he does the playlist, these are his songs, it's what he likes. So during the balloon drop, oh it's the balloon drop! Do you catch the song? Nesumdorma? Yeah, there was two there was two with the he also did a version of some other Patriotic song at the very end you before that now at the very end. That's not the last song there No, no, no, no, no was the last song was the very last song at the very very end. I

40:37 And although I think I've heard this before, I can't remember where, in connection to Trump, what a lot of people were sending me is, do you know what this means? And I'm like, no. It's a Pavarotti top ten. No. It is a song that's played at the end of the movie Some of the World. And which I have not seen but I've now gone back and I've seen the clips. And so the subplot of this movie, so this Russia blows up a nuke in America and it's really between Russia and the United States, but it's the subplot is

41:13 the President of the United States, they plot to take him out with an assassination attempt which fails. And so at the very end of the movie, where the President of the United States is signing a peace treaty with the Russian president, this song starts to play and then you see hitmen going around to every single one of the people who are involved in the conspiracy to assassinate the president and they're shooting him in the head, they're blowing up their cars, they're slitting their throats. And people saw that as very symbolic. Godfather part one. Very much so. I thought, and I'm like, yeah, good one. Put him on notice.

41:55 Anyway, we'll get back to, we've got to talk about JD Vance, we've got to talk about the conspiracies whirling around, because that is of course what I do. But first let's go to something that actually impacted the entire world in a massive way. It's a massive computer outage wreaking havoc worldwide, grounding flights across the globe, hitting airlines, banks, stores and even some 911 services. It makes taking care of people in the emergency room extremely difficult. and time-consuming as if it wasn't already. The outage appears to stem from an update from a cybersecurity company called CrowdStrike causing users of Microsoft Windows operating systems to crash. CrowdStrike tells NBC News it suffered a major outage impacting businesses globally. The CEO says in a statement CrowdStrike is actively working with customers impacted by

42:47 by a defect found in a single content update that is not a security incident or cyber attack. At least three major US airlines, Delta, American and United, grounded flights earlier this morning. The FAA says several airlines requested assistance. Lines have been growing at airports nationwide. There's no information, there's no flights taking off, they have no idea what's going on. American says it's now been able to safely reestablish our operation. Across the country, users on social media have been posting messages of their computer screens stuck on what's called the blue screen of death. Now seen around the world, Microsoft has released a statement saying, we acknowledge how impactful this is to our customers and we are working to restore services for those still experiencing disruptions as quickly as possible.

43:39 So a couple things before we get into some other clips here. First of all, technically that's not really the blue screen of death. The blue screen of death is you get a bunch of binary code. I mean, this... Microsoft still uses the blue screen. It was far from the blue screen of death because there was a relatively easy fix which people could do. But I hope everybody was nice to their dude's name Ben and dudette's name Bernadette because this was a nightmare for sysadmins. Since almost every computer I talked to Dave Jones at quite some length about this Basically every computer that was affected had to be manually Manually restored which means hands-on or you have to walk someone through it over the phone and of course the the fun part of this and I've learned this myself if you have machines that have bit locker and

44:33 Then you got to make sure you got all those bitlocker unlock codes. And you know, you wind up typing those in every single time it boots up. It's a very arduous process. Very, very annoying. I just from what I understand CrowdStrike releases these updates all the time. So I was kind of like, wow, why would you do this on a Friday morning early or late Thursday night? It was, you know, it's a null point error. It seems like something that could have been avoided. Why wouldn't you test this? For those of you who had your, if you're in a corporate environment, of course, I had no problem with it. You didn't either.

45:18 If you had your computer shut down during the night, this is a little tip. If you shut down your computer at the end of the day, if something like this happens, you're more likely to boot up after they fix it and get a proper version or not a bug version. So it would not affect you at all. And so I think a lot of sysadmins are learning that they have to get their workers to shut down the computers at night. But, wow, did this show how vulnerable the world is to this centralized system? It was my... Centralized nothing. This is microservices architecture. Yeah, but it comes from one spot.

46:01 Well, that one element amongst the microservices comes from one spot and this is the problem. It could have been from any number of these crappy systems that are cobbled together. But it's a centralized bug. I understand your microservices thing, but that's not what that is. This is everybody on one service. That's the problem. Everybody on one service. Except, of course, Southwest Airlines, who still run on Windows 3.1 and Windows 95, and their computers work just fine, which is probably the most beautiful message I've read in a long time.

46:39 Tina was actually flying out. She's on the southwest is fine. Yeah, but I actually there's some irony. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah to an extreme I got that's well hold on before we get there before we get the couple more things Just to show you the severity of this because we you know, we've heard we've heard reports and yeah, yeah airlines Yeah, yeah this and that so Christina who works in Basically one flew over the cuckoo's nest people with light drug addiction and other issues. She said they couldn't use the phones, you know, none of the computers worked and the Netherlands Schiphol Airport completely shut down KLM and subsequently Delta grounded because they're so integrated. They're like an annex of Microsoft Windows architecture. So everybody should be rethinking this stuff because you know, it yeah, it was CrowdStrike today. It could be a

47:32 A bad Windows update tomorrow. A boots on the ground from one of our producers, a hospital, just to give you an idea, Ohio State Cincinnati Children's Cleveland Clinic all hit pretty hard. They had to cancel emergency surgeries, not sure how they're functioning at all. He says, here's a real life example from UPMC in Pittsburgh. Every unit has a medicine dispensing cabinet. Think vending machine for drugs. Nice. The nurses have to pull from that to administer any drugs to patients because of course, you know, they got to protect this because nurses otherwise getting high and selling this out the back door. All the medicine cabinets blue screened, calls started to generate by five in the morning, the vendor that supplies support for the cabinets was pressured not to wait for a fix because people need their medication. So service technicians went in and started replacing hard drives, which is not just a swap,

48:26 All the information that the cabinet previously held is stored on a server from the vendor and of course that's where all the configurations, drugs and quantities, patient information. So they replaced the hard drives but the server was affected so they couldn't download anything. The cabinet was still not restored. The only way to access these drugs is through specialized proprietary keys that unlock mechanical overrides. And these are real, real problems that people went through. Payment terminals, banks, Mind you, Bitcoin worked just fine. This is a side note. Why wouldn't it? Well, I mean... Mind you, my computer worked just fine. My point is that people couldn't use their... they couldn't pay for stuff. They couldn't buy stuff. They couldn't get to their money. I want to... there's a note. Let me read this boots on the ground. This is a producer Eric. I'm a dude named Ben from one of the larger counties in Iowa. You got this note.

49:22 Approximately two years ago, the state of Iowa CTO signed a contract with CrowdStrike that would allow the state of Iowa to offer the Falcon endpoint application suite, which is what we're talking about, to every county, municipality, police, sheriff's department, prisons, et cetera, for free. I still have yet to figure out what the business model is if they're giving this away. Your entity would sign an agreement that you would install this application on all your endpoints and the state of Iowa's own NOC would manage alerts, et cetera, for each of these entities. The adoption rate was over 75% amongst these groups. I mean, it's free. In meetings I've attended with other county IT staff statewide, the question was raised as to why some of the room didn't take up the free offer.

50:10 The main points were lack of control. Yeah. So you've got some IT guys that know what they're doing. Lack of control of your endpoint security and quote, if we are all in the same protection, we all have the same exposure. Yes, connection is protection. I was called by our 911 dispatchers about five minutes after all the systems in our comm center started rebooting. Yeah. As well as our jail that is adjacent. Reboot the jail! Reboot the jail! This is ridiculous. Well it's not like people, it's not like we didn't all know this. Well you and I have been bitching about crot strikes since the pew pew days. Here we go. Hillary Clinton paid for it and the Democrats

50:52 A lot of it had to do, they say, with Ukraine. But Mr. President- No, it's very interesting. It's very interesting. They have the server, right, from the DNC, Democratic National Committee. Who has the server? The FBI went in and they told them, get out of here. You're not getting- we're not giving it to you. They gave the server to CrowdStrike or whatever it's called, which is a company owned by a very wealthy Ukrainian. and i still want to see that server you know the fbi has never gotten that server that's a big part of this whole thing why did they give it to a ukrainian company? are you sure they did that? are you sure they gave it to ukraine? well that's what the word is and that's what i asked actually in my phone call if you know i mean i asked it very point blank because we're looking for corruption

51:39 There's tremendous corruption. We're looking for why should we be giving hundreds of millions of dollars to countries when there's this kind of corruption? So that's the first thing I thought of when this happened. Just going back to the convention, whatever we do, we've got Biden out sick. We've got Trump. You know, he's he's going to be the story of the day. They're already trying to massage the story, although also smartly. All the newspapers, they had a deadline at probably 11, you would know better than I would. Because I looked at the New York Times, LA, the LA Times had some snarky stuff in there because they were on a different time schedule. But everything on the East Coast had, you know, Trump speaks after assassination attempt. They didn't have any of the narrative of rambling, hate-filled, all of that stuff. So if you really want to change the news cycle, and boy did it, you pull one of these stunts. I completely believe this was sabotage.

52:34 Completely. That was also a crowd strike. I think it was timed. I really did not put that past this company in particular. I'm not going to argue with you on this. I think they're dirty. I think they're dirty. Well, we've always thought that. We were always suspicious of this operation. Yes. For a lot of reasons. And they're giving this stuff away for free. And I asked our producer about this and he didn't come back with the right answer and I had to ask him again. Wrong answer, vote again! What's the business model for making everybody into you know saying, hey look what we got here you can have it for free? Oh sweet. I mean... Okay we'll take it. But they're also in essence an extension of the intelligence community. They're in continuous contact about you know

53:24 fuzzy bear and foggy dude or whatever you know all these different to oh no they got another thing coming out so there's an open pipe between intelligence and these guys So it just, what a great way to just change the news cycle. We need something, listen here's the meeting, look we've got Trump out there and he's taking a bullet for democracy, the RNC, gentlemen, what are we doing? Who's producing the DNC? Our stuff sucks compared to what Trump did. This is great, he had Hulk Hogan, we had Kid Rock, what are we doing? We gotta change this narrative quick. We got Joe down, President down.

54:02 I know what we'll do. Seriously. I mean, I have a, before you get to your clips, I have a couple of clips from the CEO. I should mention something according to at least one of the guys who posted on Twitter, which is that BlackRock owns a chunk of a huge chunk of CrowdStrike. BlackRock is deep in the White House. Yeah. Well, they're dead everywhere. So, your thesis that, you know, somebody came up with this idea, you know, just let's do this, is not completely out of the realm of possibility. That's the... because you'll recall, I got the word Thursday during the show, Biden's quitting tonight. And I said, that would be great because you... I mean, Biden would have to quit eventually, but it'd be great because then you can change the news narrative.

54:51 And I guess they went beyond the negotiating deadline. And by the way, $100 million, which we discussed, that specific amount is everywhere now. $100 million, yeah, for the foundation, $100 million, give them a nice parachute, $100 million. So they had to negotiate that exit. They held out for, you know, maybe they wanted a net jets card or something. I don't know. Yeah, that's what I did. No, no jet, no deal. No jet, no deal. Show title. No jet, no deal. Exactly. And so they went beyond the deadline and they had to pull something. I do not put it past these ghouls at all. So I'm just going to play two quick clips from the CrowdStrike CEO who moved. And it was Australia. This was one of my dreams, actually.

55:41 You had television shows which could barely stay on the air because chyron's didn't work, scripts didn't work, teleprompters didn't work. I mean more of this please but just for the television networks. That's what I've always said, how can we not take those guys out? So that was taking place so the Today Show manages to cobble together everyone to get on the air and they bring in George Kurtz the CEO of CrowdStrike. George, it's good to see a lot of people woke up. They saw that blue screen of death. We've been hearing all about the messes at the airports, a lot of broadcast channels, Australia, even ours here. We had those blue screens everywhere. People are wondering what happened. So what did happen?

56:24 Yeah, so first, thank you for giving me the opportunity to chat with you first on air. And I want to start with saying we're deeply sorry for the impact that we've caused to customers, to travelers, to anyone affected by this, including our companies. So we know what the issue is. We're resolving and have resolved the issue now. It's recovering systems that are out there. And essentially, as you've talked about in the statement I put out is The system was sent an update and that update had a software bug in it and caused an issue with the Microsoft operating system. And we identified this very quickly and remediated the issue. And as systems come back online as they're rebooted, they're coming up and they're working. And now we are

57:10 working with each and every customer to make sure that we can bring them back online. But that was the extent of an issue, the issue in terms of a bug that was related to our update. Now listen to this next clip and tell it before I continue. What's with this guy's haircut? He's got a Ron Bloom mohawk. That's what you do, man. What kind of a haircut is this for a CEO of a company like this? You look at this guy and go, this guy's a CEO. What is this haircut? Yeah, yeah. It's douchey. That's what you do when you're a mogul. The mogul with the mohawk. Now tell me if this, because he says, great to be with you first. So I don't know if he had done a whole bunch of interviews or this was his first interview. It sounded like, hey, I'm glad I can break this with you there, NBC Today show.

58:03 So, was he tired from talking? Was he parched or was he emotional? broadcast, street lights, 911, emergency around the globe. Why is there not some kind of redundancy or some sort of backup? How is it that one single software bug can have such a profound and immediate impact? It was just a glitch, lady. It was just a glitch. Well, when you look at the complexity of cybersecurity, you're always trying to stay one step

58:50 ahead of the adversary. Now, is he choking? Is he emotional? Listen again. It goes on a little bit longer. I think Zatella is lying. Well, when you look at the complexity of cybersecurity, you're always trying to stay one step ahead of the adversary. Yeah. Excuse me. Just one second, please. Oh yeah, take a drink of water. I think it's the gun pointed at his head from behind the camera. Yeah, sorry. Sure, it's been a long night. It's been a long night. We're always trying to stay one step ahead of the adversaries. And in this particular case, our systems are always looking for the latest attacks from these adversaries that are out there. So this content update went out and as it does and it's been doing for many, many years,

59:40 Obviously, we've got a robust team that's looking at the safety and security and the quality of these updates. And we have to go back and see what happened here. But if there is a negative interaction with the way some of these operating systems work, in this particular case, it was only the Microsoft operating system that was impacted, you'll see a reaction like this. And this is what we've seen here. I mean, that was... Who cares? What? What did he say? He's just trying to speak, you know, like... These things do not happen, certainly not frequently, in these types of companies. I mean, it just doesn't happen. These things cannot happen. And it did happen, and it destroyed their reputation. It'll be interesting to see how the stock does tomorrow.

1:00:35 Well, when you get to my clips from PBS... Yeah, go ahead. Let's roll them. Well, you want to do them now? Because it doesn't... they bring on... okay, they do it the base... I'm going to give you the run down because there's five or six clips. Yeah. They do the basic rundown of the problem, they use the word glitch too much, they bring in an expert who's a cyber security guy, who's an old man with a white beard and one of those little Scotsman's caps, golf cap thing. Why? Why? And so they bring this guy in who's a grump and he's actually pretty decent. But the,

1:01:15 It brings up the thing in my mind, which is of course the bad guys couldn't have done a better job of shutting down half the world than these guys did just by supposed accident. How about government? I mean, do you have any idea? The government's basically shut down everywhere. Everything's shut down. It was involved with this, not obviously the 25% of the Iowa Counties didn't use the product and they were probably fine. Hold on. I'm sure, I'm sure. Hold on. And Southwest is fine. There's a little something I gotta tell you. Headline. CrowdStrike global tech outage snarls early voting in Arizona. I thought these things were supposed to be unnetworked. Wow.

1:02:04 Yeah, from their own website, Cybersecurity and Election Security Resource Center. Cybersecurity is a fundamental pillar of election security. The elections community and their partners in government, NGOs and the private sector must remain vigilant in the face of potential threats. elections infrastructure and systems enterprises that administer elections campaigns and the channels through which elections information results are communicated can all be targeted by us. Awareness is the first step. Learn how. Crowdstrike can help. Yeah. Just what you said. I thought these things weren't connected to the internet. They're not supposed to be. The voting systems. So this could also be a nice dry run for the election.

1:02:48 Yeah, well, if they're gonna get Camelot in, they're gonna have to do it through nefarious means. Can I just get the glitch thing out of my system and then you won't hear me about it again? Yeah, I'm sure. Ladies and gentlemen of the press, of the media, this was not a glitch.

1:03:27 A glitch is when your television goes bzzz for a second. A glitch is when your lights flash off for a second. This is not a glitch, this was, for all intents and purposes, a centralized attack on the entire world from one company, who's now like, oh, it's a glitch. It's very poor reporting. You should have to turn in your press card. Oh, gee, poor reporting in today's day and age? Let me write this down. Let me get the date. What was the date again of this poor reporting day? I just don't like the glitch term. How can you call this a glitch? People died. I guarantee you people died. Weddings weren't attended. Birthdays weren't celebrated. Medications were not given. Not a glitch.

1:04:17 All right. I like the fact that they'd have this thing hooked to a medical cabinet. It's unbelievable. Have you not seen Sopranos? I mean, the nurse was hooked on this stuff. Oh, no, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the fact that this system, this overriding international system of interconnections would be hooked to one of these cabinets. You'd think it would just be, there's a million ways to secure things. You don't have to go through these guys. Okay, let's start. This is a PBS NewsHour's presentation. I believe they use glitch and they do all the other mistakes and I have thoughts on every one of these clips. All right, we start with numero uno. We start tonight with a tech outage around the world that halted flights, disrupted emergency services, and created headaches for businesses.

1:05:09 The underlying problems behind the glitch were fixed by the afternoon, but the ripple effects have lasted throughout the day and may continue well into tomorrow. And as William Brangham reports, thousands of passengers are still trying to get to their destinations tonight. It was the glitch felt around the world. Today's software failure triggered far-reaching and frustrating outages globally. Air travelers were among the most directly affected, with tens of thousands of flights delayed and thousands more cancelled. I've never seen it like this before, especially in this airport. This airport is my favorite because it's usually getting it out. The outage was caused by a faulty software update within Microsoft's Windows operating system. Many users first noticed the problem when they saw the notorious so-called blue screen of death.

1:05:59 The faulty update was issued by the cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike. CEO George Kurtz offered a mea culpa this morning on the Today Show. We're deeply sorry for the impact that we've caused to customers, to travelers, to anyone affected by this, including our companies. So we know what the issue is. We're resolving and have resolved the issue now. I just want to make a correction. It was not the Sopranos. It was Jackie Edie Falco who was in the Sopranos played the nurse. carry on. Didn't that what you said? No, I said sopranos. You said haven't I seen the sopranos? Yeah, but she played Jackie. She had a spin-off series. Oh, you're talking about Jackie, the other thing. Oh yeah. She was the nurse. Oh, I see what you're saying. Oh yeah, you associate it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for the correction. Yeah. Well, I mean, hey, we don't want to be fact checked on this show ever. That'll be the day. All right.

1:06:55 So that was the end of that clip. I thought you had commentary on every clip. Yeah, I do. Okay, let's start off with the, oh we're so sorry. Where is the liability of... aspect of this. Where are the legal eagles? I asked Dave Jones about this. I said, they're gonna get sued. He said, ha ha ha. He laughed at me. Yes, I would laugh too because I... He said, every single EULA contains so many outs for these companies. There's no way you can... This is because the EULA has been turned into a protective mechanism, illegally I might add, by

1:07:34 by the court system because they don't want to deal with what the possibilities are. I mean, if you remember with the Supreme Court, oh my God, because we're going to drop the Chevron deference, it's going to result in a bunch of actual work we're going to have to do. Oh no! So the EULA which has been enshrined in... Can I just give everybody, for those who don't know, EULA, E-U-L-A, End User License Agreement. That is what when you install, when your iPhone says, want to update? You say yeah, it gives you that big screen and you go, yeah I agree. Because you have to or it won't work. Or it won't work. You get a EULA when you buy a Tesla. Yes. So when the car, when you put it on autopilot and slams you into a brick wall and you're dead, your family really can't sue. Tough. Which was, you know, if you have the opportunity as a business guy to install a EULA on everything, giving you free, you know, in other words, you're,

1:08:34 judgment proof basically, yeah you're gonna do that. But let's continue, this is gonna be my main complaint. We'll continue. The FAA temporarily grounded major US airlines including United, American and Delta. With flights stalled, check-ins were brought to a standstill. This passenger in Minneapolis was disappointed with his airline's response. What's interesting to watch is the airline have no idea what's happening because it is such an issue that they don't have a grasp on yet, at least here at the Minneapolis airport. Across the world in Australia, travelers had to fend for themselves. The flight's been cancelled.

1:09:16 Now we're trying to find accommodation in Sydney, which is not easy. Our daughters are trying to do that online. And then we'll have to try and get a flight home somehow, somewhere, sometime. Don't know. It wasn't just air travel that was affected. Hospitals and health care systems overseas were also locked up, forcing the cancellation of appointments and the closing of clinics. Massachusetts General Hospital had to limit operations, announcing, quote, due to the severity of this issue, all previously scheduled non-urgent surgeries, procedures and medical visits are canceled today. The outage also impacted 911 call systems in many places and emergency services in Oregon, Alaska and Arizona.

1:10:01 Global news outlets like Sky News were unable to broadcast their regular programs. And a major global IT outage is impacting many of the world's largest companies, including us here at Sky News. OK. Yeah. I don't have any comments on that clip. I made a mistake. What kind of bogus is this? I mean, besides the fact that obviously it's just more than three states that were, that 911 services were affected. It was everywhere. It was everywhere. Because everybody, and I back it to the guy in Iowa who says this was a free product. Oh, it's free. That's got to make you suspicious. It makes me, to this minute, it makes me very suspicious. Why was it free? For exactly this moment.

1:10:49 Whenever we need to pull the ripcord, the crowd strikes, he's your uncle. This Dr. Pepper is flat in the can. That's weird. You have a flat Dr. Pepper? Mm-hmm. It didn't even go pshh. No, it's probably had a pinhole somewhere. I used to be a can inspector. I know this sounds weird. Well, this was not inspected by John C. Dvorak, that's for sure. So we used to have, I used to work at Kaiser Aluminum. This is going to be an aside. I don't know if you want to hear this. I do actually. You want to hear the story? Yeah, well, people come for your stories. So I'm working the can. I'm an inspector too, which is the only, if anyone, kids out there become an inspector, that's your best bet.

1:11:34 So I'm an inspector on the can factory and the cans go flying by this giant, they accumulate and you can look down and you can see the cans that don't have the coating inside. They spray a coating inside all the cans. And it's a different coating for the different... For extra taste flavor. The coating, there were two coatings at this factory and one of them was a special epoxy coating that I think they had to use on Coca-Cola or any drinks that had phosphoric acid in the mix, and then it was a different color. But you could tell the ones that weren't coated, and there'd be a can that would come through every so often that wasn't coated, and it would be like silvery, because it was just the color of the aluminum, it never had the coating on it. And so I wasn't the only guy who did this.

1:12:24 But once in a while you'd look over at final inspection because there's another guy down way down the line and if he was away from his station, and they had to go do something. And you saw one of these cans with this pure silver which you'd normally pull out. I know, I'm a terrible employee for doing this, but everybody did this. You'd let the can go through and see it get pelletized and go over to Coca-Cola or whoever it was where they would fill it with some caustic soda and then soda pop is caustic.

1:13:02 And then you just know that it would very slowly dissolve the aluminum and become a, just the ink on the outside, or it would blow up on the line. There were opportunities for the coating not to be completely done, which we couldn't catch, and it would create just a pinhole area. That pinhole would get, and it could be microscopic, could get eaten away by the soda. Dr. Pepper is a phosphoric acid-based soda. And you would have a pinhole, and it would just slowly leach the CO2

1:13:39 Over a period about a month as that's what you got one of those cans. Well first of all a story I have not heard first time in 17 years appreciate it. I love the term working the cans Because from now on that's all I can ever associate with you sir Working the can work in the can inspector. He's had so many jobs. You are a versatile man and Yes, I was a can inspector. Hey babe. See my stepdaughter, she's beautiful. She immediately brought me two fresh cans. Thank you so much. Alright, here we go. In Paris, Olympic officials say some of their systems were also down. In many places, courts were also closed or delayed.

1:14:24 While the underlying software problem has been fixed, security experts say residual problems could continue for several days. So to help us understand more about what went wrong and the broader risks to our system, we turn again to Bruce Schneier. He's an expert in computer security and technology, a lecturer at the Harvard Kennedy School, and writes the wonderful blog Schneier on security. Wonderful. Schneier, thanks so much for being here again. Help us understand the basics here. What is it that went wrong? Every every solution from Bruce is a spin right spin right. Just use spin right. It'll bring it right back. You know, basically, there are hundreds of companies that do small things that are critical to the Internet functioning.

1:15:10 And today, one of them failed. But the point is, is this guy brings out this micro, he's discussing microservices architecture. He never says it. But he claims that microservices architecture holds up the internet, which isn't true. So we're right away at the beginning here, his assertions are wrong. Oh boy. This company you've probably never heard of and wouldn't hear of if it didn't fail. It's one of many. I mean, the details are geeky, but basically one of the critical things that holds the internet up fell down.

1:15:59 Okay, but no simple little that's not true glitch today. God, please stop surgeries from happening had 911 systems go down I mean if that can be Happening because of an accident. I mean what would happen if there was a motivated bad actor getting into these systems? No, we see that remember change health care when no one get prescriptions because of ransomware and Remember Colonial Pipeline, where oil stopped flowing in the East Coast because of ransomware? We see this again and again. Sometimes it's malice, sometimes it's accident. But there are so many critical things that make this network function. And if any one of them fails, the network fails. So is it just that we are too over-reliant on a concentrated number of companies?

1:16:49 It's concentrated and the fact that there's no resilience, that it's a very fragile system. And a lot of that is the way is the economics. Redundancies are viewed as inefficient, so they're pulled out of the system because of profits. But that ends up with a very fragile system. It all works great when it works. When it fails, it fails catastrophically, which is what we saw today. So is that the incentive here? Is that to change, to make a meaningful incentive to sort of build in that redundancy? Is it economics principally? It's economics. We have the technology here. I could describe ways that CrowdStrike could have rolled out this change incrementally and caught this before it was a disaster. We could talk about maybe there being a dozen companies do the same thing so that the disaster is contained.

1:17:38 But really it is fundamentally economics. The business incentive is to grow and become critical and then run as lean as absolutely possible. So I have a question for you. I think everyone deserves to hear your definition of microservices because first of all, I believe that 95% of all problems on the actual network when this was not a network problem, this was a specific problem related to one company that delivers a service to Windows network computers. 95% of the problems is DNS, which and now do you consider DNS to be a microservice? No, DNS is a basic service. Okay, what is micro? You can't do anything without DNS. You can do plenty without microservices. So explain microservices. Microservices are subsystems that a lot of bigger systems rely on. So exam, for example, this CrowdStrike thing or anything. Give me another example. Give me another example. I'll give you some examples.

1:18:37 You have, uh, you have databases of birth dates. Uh, and so somebody like Amazon, Amazon doesn't keep any of this information. They go to a microservice, look up your birthday and send you, Hey, happy birthday. It's your birthday today. Okay. Could be wrong. Could be right. Okay. So for microservices are telling you what your location is. It's good. My Amazon doesn't know where you are. Hold on. So like ticket master, They, I think it was Ticketmaster, was it Ticketmaster? Who was it just recently who said, oh well, you know, a third party was hosting our database with information or something like that and that one got hacked. Those third parties are all microservices. Microservice will say, well, where's this?

1:19:20 it'll say, well, you're, like I'm using, I use VPNs and all of a sudden I go to some system and it says, oh, I see that you're in New Mexico. I see that you're here, you're there. That's not where I am. I'm in Berkeley. But no, no, no. Because the microservice tells them that I'm in New Mexico. It's what we used to call web services. Yeah, web services, yeah. And they're part of the overall system and they're being pinged for information constantly and a lot of them are. are in such a way they're done it they're architected in such a way into the main software that if they fail the whole system fails. Now a lot of them don't aren't designed that way but a lot of them are designed to be you know if this fails and this isn't going to work at all. Right so Snowflake who actually was hosting all that data for Ticketmaster and for many other companies microservice and actually

1:20:21 For 25 apps and services out there, podcastindex.org is by that definition a microservice. And if we go down, then all those apps have problems. I would say that's true and there's also microservices can get to the point where the minutiae, where the microservice is actually telling you what time it is. So I mean these little things, but some of them are crucial and there's no redundancy and the code isn't written properly so if the microservice fails it just ignores the lack of data keeps on its merry way obviously that didn't happen with this now this guy makes the point that redundancies could be made built in where you have two microservices one covering for the other doing the exact same thing but though that would cost an extra nickel even though the service they're giving it away for free but it would cost somebody a nickel in this case I think the level of access that the

1:21:21 this CrowdSite microservice has is right into the core of the boot up process and the networking. So probably wouldn't be able to fail over to something else, but that's a separate issue. Well, I think it could if it would, what this guy's point was, is that it's cheaper to do it the way they're doing it and you can make more money and you can have big bonuses and get million dollar payouts for the CEO and on and on. which none of this would be the case, none of this would have happened, none of this would have been the case if these guys were liable. If they were liable for screwing over the airline customers and they could be sued for not, you missed your flight, you missed this, you missed that, you missed a business meeting, I am suing you. If you could sue over this stuff, nah, and you can't because of EULAs, which are made as some, it's government protection

1:22:17 For the software industry, it's bull crap. These things should be banned immediately and we should have a normal system. Like if you make a piece of a product that made out of, you know, like a car and the car fails and there's no EULA involved, you can sue. I mean, this would happen with the Pinto and the exploding gas tanks. You can sue. You can't sue over this because of these, the the government protection based on the courts allowing these EULAs to exist. And the EULAs are bogus because you either can't use the product if you don't sign off, or you just can't use it. You're not, you know, you can get a kid to sign it and kids aren't liable for, they can't legally sign contracts so there's some angle there. But this is protectionism. ♪ John C. DeVore acts pet peeve of the day

1:23:10 Yeah, that feels good, doesn't it? Onward. So what do you think the downstream consequences for CrowdStrike and or Microsoft will be or will there be none? There will be none. What were the downstream consequences for Colonial Pipeline or Change Healthcare or the dozens of other incidents like this in the past few years? We move on. Politics is all consuming. This is a blip. Tomorrow, I don't even think it's going to be news. On a practical basis, for an individual who late last night or today might have done some online transaction, paid a bill, transferred money, do they need to worry? Could this have impacted them in some way? I mean, it could if they were flying today, if they wanted to, you know, needed 911 services, hospitals, a lot of things collapsed.

1:23:59 But really as an individual, there's nothing you can do. You're not in charge of these networks. You don't get to say what products and services are used or not. We are all at the mercy of these very large consolidated systems. And when they fail, our life is impacted. The only way to make this change at the political level, agitate for some meaningful rules here that will keep companies from being this lean. Well, you're kind of on board with what he's saying. No, I'm not. He wants to do regulation. Oh, no, I mean, he's saying we need something at the government level which would be changing this EULA nonsense. You said it's protectionism, protectionism from the government. That's kind of what you said, unless I misunderstood. Yes, that's what it is, is protectionism. But going toward the focus on regulation, oh, we should regulate, when all you have to do is pull the plug on EULAs,

1:24:51 and say, hey, no, no, this is a product. You bought the product. The product has made guarantees to you about certain things. If you bought a product, it's supposed to do this, that and the other. And it doesn't. It fails. It doesn't do this, that and the other. It doesn't do anything. You can sue over that. You can't do that today. I would like all of our producers who also work at CNBC or other television news stations. You should get John C. Dvorak on the air. This is, I mean, you got one of those hats, one of those little like a little French hat. Scottish cap. You know, you got to have a look. If you have a look, then they'll keep calling you. Oh yeah, we go to John C. Dvorak. So the point is, is that this guy's again, the old, you know, this is a liberal attitude. Oh, let's just do regulations, regulations.

1:25:41 This is an example you should deregulate. You should get rid of EULA's deregulate and let the legal system take its due course. I don't understand this idea of regulating. What are you going to regulate? I think you've made your point. Yeah, I know. I'm just pounding it home. I'm doing what I'm taking. I finally picked up a... I'm doing a curry. You know what happens, you get a lot of email, you get annoyed at people who say, because that's what I get. You already get that. I know, I know. Ever since the tip of the day. We'll talk about that later. John wants to, okay, I'll leave that for later. Okay, last clip here. We're getting through it. But you know the difficulties of that kind of a thing. One, that's not a constituency that's naturally out there that's organically fighting for this kind of a thing. Absent that, are there political leaders that could be doing this, that could be pressing this in a regulatory way?

1:26:32 I mean, there can, I don't think there will be. You know, it's we have a lot of trouble, especially the United States regulating anything. And this is certainly not the worst disaster. This is just one of many. This is today's disaster. So yes, there could be change. I wouldn't expect it. EU is doing better. You see more meaningful regulation there. But even there, they're not doing the kind of things that will make our critical infrastructure more redundant, more resilient. Alright Bruce Schneier of Schneier on security. Thanks so much for being here Wow alright. Thanks so much for being here geez So the fallout from this will be that I don't know if we're gonna get much reporting on it from here on out because it was just a glitch you know a big deal, but I think a nice billions of dollars to the economies of the world a nice or at least everyone got hit a nice

1:27:29 October surprise! Oh, voting machines glitch. Glitch, glitch. I mean, if voting machines are connected to this, they can put all kinds of stuff in there. They're at one of the lowest levels of the operating system. They could? You don't think they've been doing it? I'm sorry, what am I even saying? Yes. So, this should be very telling. I've always been led to believe voting machines are not connected to the network. They keep saying it, don't they? By definition, if CrowdStrike is in there and it's working as advertised, it's connected to something. So, that should be a... Gillespie County, pen and paper. No voting machines here.

1:28:13 Alright, let me put up the sign here. The conspiracy therapist is in. Alright. Couple of things related to the shooting. First of all, thank you. We have the best podcast producers in the universe. Douchebag Pat came in regarding the shorting of the DJT stock prior to the shooting. Well, well, well. I mean, how many emails did we not receive about, oh yeah, BlackRock and Clinton, they're shorting their money just like 9-11 and airlines?

1:28:53 And Douchebag Pat says, well I looked at the volume price action since July 1. The stock volume was very subdued, average trading range less than normal. The stock price was flat during the entire time. The average daily volume is about 11 million shares, so it's almost impossible that 12 million got shorted without any ramifications. He says I checked the put volume. This would be the snapshot of how many contracts existed at the end of the day on July 12th before the shooting. I put up a chart of every single option contract that had over 1,000 contracts. Most of the put buying occurred after the run-ups. That could be attributed to things like the debate in June. As far as reports of 120,000 put contracts being bought, there were not even 120,000 put contracts in existence.

1:29:38 Yep. I saw zero evidence of any ramped up put buying during July through the 12th before the shooting. And so he says this is bogus. Absolutely bogus. Probably true that it was a clerical error. People should be ashamed of themselves for sending us this. Well, they don't know. I mean, no, they should not be ashamed. No agenda listeners should think they did get a clue at some point. They should not be ashamed. It's just what it is. Okay, they shouldn't be ashamed. Now a couple other things. Now I just want to reiterate, and I believe you're on board with this general thesis. that from the no agenda perspective we've seen this many times, this looks like the FBI specifically, by the way, FBI are the guys on the roof hosing it down. Hosing down the evidence, hello FBI.

1:30:27 The minute we heard that this kid had some bombs with a remote control up on the roof, immediately this is a very stereotypical FBI six-week cycle operation. You find some weak brother online who's talking terrorism, is yelling about Allah Akbar. Don't get mad at me, I'm just saying. You know, and then they jack him up like, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, you want to cause some mayhem, yeah, we should do this. And they jack him around for two months and then they give him a phony-bloney detonator and then the minute he goes to press the button, which doesn't work, they swoop in, save the day, we almost, oh, almost blew everybody up.

1:31:08 And the funny thing is we do we keep overlooking that the Whitmer kidnapping murder plot was largely one of these operations. Well, interesting that you bring that up. Here's two clips. There's sign here, Whitmer kidnapped plot victim. But you were one of them. You were one of the ones to talk to you for a very long time. Real quick, I'm going to go back to Miranda, but tell me real quick, we only got about 20 seconds. All right. So you're one of the ones that got arrested for the plot? Yes, sir. Eric Molitor. I'm Eric Molitor. Tell me about it real quick. I don't even know where to start. The FBI infiltrated, basically set it up, am I right? The FBI set everything up. They drove people, they paid for everything, they wrote the script. Governor Whitmer herself opened her scheduling book and decided with the FBI and state police when to be the best time for the daytime ride, the nighttime ride. Then they duped people into it.

1:31:58 They even have proof, we even have proof of them telling people get as many people in the trucks as possible and don't tell them what you're doing until they're already on the road. Yup, it was 100% set up and Governor Whitmer, if they can do it to nobody like me, they will come after everybody else. So let me ask your part in this without getting, I don't know if you're still going through the legal battles on it. I quit it man. I quit it. So I quit it. So this is one of those things. She's still out there pushing this as if it was a legitimate thing that there was a kidnap plot against her that she set up with the FBI. Walk me through what actually happened that night. Oh my gosh, man. So I didn't go on what's known as the nighttime ride. I was duped into the daytime ride.

1:32:36 And I oh my gosh again. There's so much that goes into anyways I had set up a civil defense force for my area in Wexford Cadillac City Because Antifa and bail almost coming up there through this process. I had met Adam Fox who lived down here in Grand Rapids actually After a while he got me a job in private security, which was really awesome I thought that student was really really cool, and he actually is a good guy by the time so you get the idea I have a longer clip of that, but it was fake. And NPR station, someone in the troll room just posted, are still talking about it in Michigan as if it all was real and happened. It wasn't. The guys were acquitted. It was a setup. Yes, they were all acquitted because the FBI got busted. So this is very typical of the FBI, specifically the FBI.

1:33:20 And no one, typically no one gets hurt, but they can swoop in. Remember the guy with the drones in DC, like this huge remote-controlled aircraft drone? I mean, over and over and over again we see this, except this time... And you're right, the FBI... goes out of their way or tries to go out of their way so nobody gets hurt. Yeah. They just get arrested and the FBI budget goes up. Well, or at least they maintain it or it goes up. And so our thinking is that this kid kind of went rogue, as you say, freelance, and he brought his dad's rifle. He's like, you know what? I'm going to really, I'm going to do something here. Everything points towards this, including

1:34:03 I'd say including the dad calling 911. Yes, yes. The Wall Street Journal has a lot of reporting. They say he was, for the past year, he was quietly, quietly receiving. Nice reporting Wall Street Journal quietly receiving several packages that were marked hazardous material Some of which law enforcement officials thinking might have used to make a pair of homemade bombs now notice There was no detonation of the bombs. No one has told about I mean we know that a little bit about what was in them basically, you know, like your standard ammonium bomb with some nitro flicker mocking in there, whatever. It doesn't matter. Nitrates would you say? But they didn't, they didn't explain, they didn't detonate them. He had a,

1:34:49 He had a fireworks ignition system. By the way, the antenna was broken off, at least in the picture I saw. He had two cell phones. I mean, this reeks of an FBI setup. But the kid, who was a horrible shot, he's like, you know, I'm going to show that I'm a good shot. And he comes in and he tries to shoot Trump and comes very close. There's something else that if there was any noise out there or some rumor You remember the first headlines? What were the first headlines that came out when Trump was shot? Do you remember the first headlines? No, I don't. Loud noises scare Trump. Oh, that was the headlines from... Multiple news outlets that tried to downplay the whole thing. Or were they expecting loud noises? Were they expecting some bombs to go off? So you think it was pre-written? Maybe.

1:35:49 Maybe I'm just saying it's just what it's possible of themselves by putting in the headlines Oh Trump falls, so I I think that it's very possible that a couple of these outlets We're ready to go. Loud noises, Trump, you know, there was a couple of headlines and we all looked at it and said, oh man, they can't even say that he got shot. I mean, obviously there's a difference between loud noises and gunshots. Gunshots, everyone heard it was gunshots. There was no mistake in that whatsoever. Where did these headlines come from? That, I think it just adds to our possible scenario here. Then we hear,

1:36:27 There's a lot of multiple shooter stuff out there. And so there's some really grainy video where you see of the water tower. You see the water, even the top of the water tower is going back and forth because the camera is zooming in and zooming out. I mean, no, as far as I know, there were none of these things that people are buying. It's just like what if they were to make if there were two shooters, Trump would be dead. I mean, I even heard today. The guy had a zip line, he ziplined down from the water tower. Okay, alright. It's nonsense. Then we have the audio analysis, multiple guns, multiple shooters.

1:37:09 I'd like to... I know a little bit about audio. I like this, by the way. I like the idea of looking at the sound, the crack and the retort. So, pluck, vroom, pluck, vroom, pluck, vroom. Two seconds between each one. And then the last one, the last four shots, or three or four shots, you hear there's a different distance between the tuck and vroom. What... and I think I can dispute this, This audio is taken outside on a camera on a phone, which is moving around. You're going to get different acoustics, you're going to get all kinds of different slapbacks from a camera that is not stationary. It's not like it was a stationary mic.

1:37:57 Yeah, there's also the thing that seems to be ignored, which there were two shooters. One of them was the Secret Service sniper shooting at the kid. Well, supposedly the ninth shot is that one, but we don't know. Breaking news, we don't really know. Well, we don't know, but since the ninth shot was that one, we have one guy who has it and he's just kind of chuckling to himself as though he solved the whole thing, and he shows the guy shooting three times. This whole, it's ridiculous. So there is a large contingent of people out there believing this was a complete setup. I mean people I respect. This is the biggest show on earth and I have to say again, no. If this was not, if it was October, I would give you some leeway. They make, oh but this was for, he was gonna win the nomination anyway. This is not to get him nominated.

1:38:52 It makes no sense that this was a false flag from Trump. He had a little ear clip, you know, he clipped his own ear when he put his hand... No! No, how about it was real? How about that for a second? It was real. But mounting evidence and circumstances of this kid is amazing. We're seeing a narrative being built. It is all coming from sources, you know, from phone calls that people aren't allowed to talk. There's no briefing. For everything else in the world we get daily briefings, we get the FBI, they're up there, you know, maybe you get the Secret Service, someone's going to be talking about it, but there's nothing, there's none of that. So it's very fishy.

1:39:38 That's not happening and I don't think it's because there's some conspiracy outside of the FBI trying to pull off one of their little gambits But then we have this bombshell in the meantime we do want to get into this new bombshell report right now Just moments ago coming in from the Wall Street Journal, and I'm gonna read from some of the piece And this is quite stunning. Let's take some of this video. This is what we know according to the Wall Street Journal They just published this piece that a gunman who tried to kill Donald Trump is was able to fly a drone and get aerial footage of the Western Pennsylvania fairgrounds shortly before the former president was set to speak there. Law enforcement officials briefed on the matter said, further underscoring the stunning security lapses ahead of Trump's near assassination. They go on to say in their reporting that Thomas Matthew Crooks

1:38:52 It makes no sense that this was a false flag from Trump. He had a little ear clip, you know, he clipped his own ear when he put his hand... No! No, how about it was real? How about that for a second? It was real. But mounting evidence and circumstances of this kid is amazing. We're seeing a narrative being built. It is all coming from sources, you know, from phone calls that people aren't allowed to talk. There's no briefing. For everything else in the world we get daily briefings, we get the FBI, they're up there, you know, maybe you get the Secret Service, someone's going to be talking about it, but there's nothing, there's none of that. So it's very fishy.

1:39:38 That's not happening and I don't think it's because there's some conspiracy outside of the FBI trying to pull off one of their little gambits But then we have this bombshell in the meantime we do want to get into this new bombshell report right now Just moments ago coming in from the Wall Street Journal, and I'm gonna read from some of the piece And this is quite stunning. Let's take some of this video. This is what we know according to the Wall Street Journal They just published this piece that a gunman who tried to kill Donald Trump is was able to fly a drone and get aerial footage of the Western Pennsylvania fairgrounds shortly before the former president was set to speak there. Law enforcement officials briefed on the matter said, further underscoring the stunning security lapses ahead of Trump's near assassination. They go on to say in their reporting that Thomas Matthew Crooks

1:40:25 flew the drone on a programmed flight path earlier in the day on July the 13th to scour the Butler Farm showgrounds ahead of Trump's ill-fated rally, according to the officials. The predetermined path, the officials added, suggests Crooks flew the drone more than once as he researched and scoped out the event site. So I would like to see said drone. I'd like to get a little bit of information about this drone. What kind of drone was it? Because there was a TFR in place, a temporary flight restriction. It's very normal when someone of this stature speaks and it's a zone and it was all around this entire area where you cannot fly and they put it out in a no-tam notice to airmen. Oh, I'm sorry, that's misogynistic.

1:41:14 And as a part of it, and so even a drone flying would be under this TFR. And in fact, it says in the NOTAM, the Department of Defense, the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Justice may take security action that results in the interference, disruption, seizure, damaging or destruction of unmanned aircraft deemed to pose a credible safety or security threat to protected personnel or assets. So, possible that's just bull crap and they're not looking at all for drones. I don't think drones have transponders, but if they were serious about this security, then, you know, as they portend here, then that's something that probably should not have been able to happen. I want to correct your terminology. Sexist and misogyny is not, they're not synonyms. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. Sexist. I'm just sexist.

1:42:09 Wait, since you're playing that, like that's a distraction, let's play this Josh Hawley clip. It's a Fox report. Well, you're jumping ahead, but okay, we can do this. Where is, yes, Josh Hawley. Can we just wait one second on the Josh Hawley thing? Because the Secret Service is last. Secret Service's last. All right, then we'll play it. Yeah. Yeah Because he has the whistleblower. So now we're starting to supposedly yeah now now how we're starting to build up a little bit of a profile with different news reports They do know that he registered as a Republican a couple of days after his 18th birthday But that's you know that and I think his final search is

1:42:49 on the internet was for pornography. He also looked for pictures of both Trump and Biden and also Chris Wray, the FBI director and Merrick Garland. So he was very angry, I think, with the government in general. Beautiful. First of all, he's an incel looking for porn. FBI couldn't be involved because he had a picture of FBI Director Chris Wray on his phone. It couldn't be Department of Justice because you know we got the Attorney General there. So wait, where'd you get this clip? I don't remember where I got that from. This is a planted story. This is obvious bogus. It'd be nice to know the source. Yes, someone sent it to me and it was no source. I should have asked for a source.

1:43:36 Normally I have it such as this is CNN. Here's a big part of the of the story that's being created. Law enforcement sources telling CNN that there were pictures on the shooter's phone of both President Biden and President Trump but law enforcement sources also noted that there were other political figures on his phone as well including pictures of House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries and Speaker Mike Johnson but no threatening language accompanying any of those photos. And you know what I love about there were pictures on his what did he have him in an album? Did he have him as his screen, his lock screen? He had to look at the picture of Trump before he took the shot to make sure it was the right guy. I mean this is

1:44:17 Complete bogus. The other thing that was a piece of new information is that Crooks apparently has searched for information on major depression disorder, but still law enforcement officials say that there's no evidence that he himself had any diagnosis. And the last thing, Sarah, that I'll note is from the House briefing, I should say legislative sources were telling us that the shooter actually visited that rally site twice before the shooting and cell phone data shows that he was at that rally site at least 70 minutes prior to the shooting. So this is new, this is something new, they have not done it before which tells me they're a little desperate because clearly this is not politically motivated, we can't blame it on that, can't blame it on the FBI. You know he was very interested in Hakeem Jeffries, okay sure, but the Daily Mail, exclusive. Wait, before you go on I want to say what you're doing

1:45:11 You are showing that the FBI was reverse engineering a possible scenario because of the screw up. Of the kid screwing up, the kid going rogue. So now what are we going to do? Well, let's start piecing together a phony story. Yes, including, and this is new, they never do this. Doctors say antidepressants may have pushed Trump shooter Thomas Crooks over the edge as concerning new details emerge. Now, and remember, let me just read a few pieces from this report. Details are beginning to emerge about the state of mind of Donald Trump's would-be assassin after the FBI gained access to his cell phone this week. Apparently he had two or three, but okay. Though no concrete motive has been established, Thomas Crook's exclusive story. Internet history revealed he searched for information about major depressive disorder in the days leading up to the attack. In addition to that,

1:46:10 Well, by the way, that shows there's a flaw because according to the reports he never went got diagnosed by a doctor So how did he get the prescription? We all we don't know if he if he was looking for a prescription But this no, I know how did he get the prescriptions? He was tate if they're gonna start blaming drugs on this Somebody has you have to get diagnosed. Well, they haven't figured that one out yet. Well, but but this story is I have never seen this before. This story from the Daily Mail links to an Oxford Department of Psychiatry story, depression linked to violent crime study finds. Wow, didn't hear about that. Three times more likely, according to Oxford. Three times more likely to commit violent acts, violent crimes if you're on antidepressants. Gee, what next? Video games make you do this stuff? I mean, come on.

1:47:08 I'm trying to see if this there was one more piece. Let me see if this is it a clear picture of the shooter and the actions of 20 year old Thomas Matthew Crooks is emerging Yeah from the FBI Matthew Crooks is emerging a source familiar with the investigation telling NBC News Crooks fluid drone Oh, by the way Crooks worked at a nursing home Maybe he had access to drugs there. You never know. While common for the Secret Service to ban drones over areas they are securing, it's unclear if that happened in this case. Drone and drone equipment were found in Crooks' car, according to a senior law enforcement source. Two senior law enforcement sources tell NBC News the FBI has uncovered more than 14,000 links on the phone of the shooter, and that online searches by Crooks involved depressive disorder, explosive materials, and chemical compounds.

1:48:03 as well as information about the 2021 Oxford High School mass shooting and convicted shooter Ethan Crumley. That's the one who's, isn't it the one whose parents went to jail? Crumley? Maybe. Yeah, Crumley, maybe. I'm just seeing 14,000 links. First of all, when the phone first got cracked, there was nothing on it. I don't know, maybe I just heard that. And now all of a sudden there's 14,000 links on your phone. You do, you guys gotta get, he's gotta have some tendinitis in his thumbs. It's a lot of links. I mean, one web page could have a hundred links. We have no, in breaking news, we have no information. They're building a story, as you said, they're reverse engineering a story around this kid because it did not do what they wanted. They wanted some loud bang bang noises. This kid, oh crazy, oh yeah, they probably would have killed him, probably.

1:49:05 Not necessarily. They didn't kill these other guys like the crazy guys that were trying to blow up one thing you know the Muslims the guys that they were at a party and they're gonna blow up something in Florida or these guys are alive. I'm gonna say they don't necessarily kill anybody. I'm gonna set you up for the Holly clip. The House Oversight Committee has subpoenaed the Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheadle to appear before that panel on Monday as they investigate the security breakdown of that apparently made the shooting possible over the past weekend. Republican Congressman Mark Alford of Missouri joins me now. Congressman, thank you very much for joining us. I guess, first of all, we know that law enforcement officials briefed members of Congress yesterday about some of the details of that assassination attempt over the weekend. What did you hear from that briefing regarding the shooting that stood out to you?

1:49:58 Well, Jim, thanks for having me on. Yes, I was on that briefing call. It was an off-the-record call, so there's not a lot that I can share with you. I will tell you in generalities, though, Director Chitoll and Director Wray did acknowledge that this was a failure in security. And I believe that Mike Johnson, our speaker, was the one to say that this was the biggest security failure for the Secret Service since Ronald Reagan was shot. They gave us a timeline, a very detailed timeline of what went on, but no real answers. And they said at this point we're really not ruling anything out, that we have to continue the investigation and let the facts lead us where they may. So of course... We have to continue writing the script. We're not done with the script. We've got too many, we've got some creative people, it takes them a while sometimes. Yeah, and you know there was a strike so it's hard to get them back.

1:50:50 So, now we have all kinds of new reporting. Turns out, well, you know, we kind of had resource issues. That's why we went all DEI to get anybody in there that we could. Some of these Secret Service agents probably weren't even really, you know, regular Secret Service agents. We have to sometimes get local people. Turns out, just like I said, we're not living in the West Wing people. This is not a Harrison Ford presidential movie. It's real life. Government sucks. They don't protect anybody or anything. Not really. They don't protect you. And, you know, even President Biden. I got a picture from one of our producers when he arrived at Delaware Air Force Base. Delaware? Yeah.

1:51:38 He says, I just got in with my regular credentials, went right up to the fence, took this picture. I could have done anything. Could have done anything at that. I could have picked him right off. Yeah, probably. Yeah, because it's a hoax. Is this when he went to Baphomet? Is Baphomet, Delaware, is that where it is? Is it Baphomet? Are you kidding me? Baphomet? He goes to Baphomet? Is it Baphomet? Please tell me it's Baphomet. Is there a Baphomet? Oh no, no, no. Rehobo-ba-ba-ba. He's got some house in Baphomet. He better not. Baphomet, no. There's no such thing as Baphomet, Delaware.

1:52:19 But he may have gone to see Bethlehem. I don't know. All right, so now you're... So this is a short clip from Fox News and this is only part of the long, long, long clip on this, but I thought it would... at least it brings in another element of confusion. And we continue to follow the latest here in Trump's attempted assassination. We are getting big breaking news here on this Friday. This is all according to Senator Josh Hawley. He has whistleblowers coming to him that detail most of Trump's security detail, working the event last Saturday were not even Secret Service. Again, were not even Secret Service. DHS assigned unprepared and inexperienced personnel. So this is the letter right now that Senator Josh Hawley just put out.

1:53:14 to the Department of Homeland Security saying, I write to raise concerns brought to me by whistleblowers about your department's stunning failure to protect former President Trump on July 13th, 2024. As Secretary of Homeland Security, you are ultimately responsible for your agency and its components, including the US Secret Service. Whistleblowers who have direct knowledge of the event have approached my office according to the allegations. The July 13th rally was considered to be a loose security event. There's all kinds of stories out there. And it doesn't make any sense with the fact that supposedly another I think misdirection which is that Iran has got a hit on Trump. Yeah, it was my favorite.

1:54:03 Yeah, so this is just, this is bordering on ridiculous and it doesn't help by the way with all the false flag narratives and... The rest of it. The whole thing's a joke. But we've all been conditioned to this. We've all been conditioned to be looking at these things. I mean, this is so Occam's razor for the show, at least. Like, come on, we've seen this, we've seen this script, we've seen the reverse engineering of the actor. And it's so obvious. The kid stole him. He went and got 50 rounds. Man, that's half a box. What is that? 50 rounds, nothing. Got 50 rounds. But actually, that's a pretty big bullet. I don't think that's half of them. I think they come in. A hundred.

1:54:45 I don't think that big bullet comes in a hundred. What big bullet? It's a 5.56, it's a big bullet, it's not a .22. How do you know it's a 5.56? They've discussed, well it's been brought out and discussed a lot that it's a 5.56. Douchebag Pat says 50 rounds in a box. Of that big 5.56 bullet? I don't think so. 5.56 is not that big. Okay, 50 rounds in a box. So he bought a box. He bought a box. Whatever he bought, whatever he bought. He took his dad's gun. The dad's like, hey, I can call a 911. We think. We don't know. Breaking news. That's true too. We don't have any proof of that assertion. No, the whole thing is bad. It's bad. So this morning, before Biden resigned, thank you everybody for jumping in. Biden resigned! Thank you. It's like people are texting me.

1:55:42 Yes. A little late. I got you. That's okay. News travels slow. We opened a show with Biden resigning. Not everybody, not everybody. People are just trying to be helpful. Just trying to be helpful. So the word, the headlines were that Chito was going to resign, which she better do because she wants to resign before she, I don't know if she can get out of this hearing. But you want some ratings? Man, Cheetle tomorrow is gonna be fantastic. I hate to say it but you're right. So I'm gonna end up opening up the C-SPAN feed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Captain Obvious Jesse Waters somehow got President Trump in the studio.

1:56:25 told you not to take the stage? Nobody mentioned it. Nobody said there was a problem. And I would have waited for 15. They could have said, let's wait for 15 minutes, 20 minutes, five minutes, something. Nobody said I think that was a mistake. How did somebody get on that roof and why wasn't he reported? Because people saw that he was on the roof. I mean, you had Trumpers screaming woman in the red shirt, she was screaming, there's a man on the roof. And then other people said, there's a man on the roof who's got a gun. And that was quite a bit before I walked onto the stage. So you would have thought somebody would have done something about it.

1:57:04 No. And I'm just gonna keep it where it is. FBI sting, typical six-week cycle, went wrong, supposed to be bang bang. Trump was supposed to be cowering, make him look all scared, running away. Maybe that's why the photographer was there who got the shot, you know, with the bullet flying through the air, which thank you, at least a hundred photographers have told us this is completely possible. Not crazy, not fakes, not phony. So calm down everybody. Mostly about that 1,800 shutter speed. You get more notes on that than anything. Yeah, calm down. I don't think we said it wasn't possible, did we? I just thought it was like... No, you actually said bullcrap, but it's okay. I said bullcrap? Yeah, I did. It's okay. It's okay. People are more upset about your tip of the day than that, trust me.

1:57:53 So they are they're upset about me. I'm gonna stop doing tip of the day because they I get so much blow you don't get that much crap to this Oh, please but people love you. Hey, you know, you're over the target when you're getting flack. Oh That must be it All right. I'm gonna close the conspiracy Well, no, I'm gonna keep the door open for a minute because we got to go into the next piece which is critically important Lo and behold, on the Bill Maher show, which I just happened to catch on CNN because I was prepping last night and you know I always have a scanner through the channels just to see if I need to clip anything. By the way, YouTube TV, here's a tip of the day, YouTube TV is so awesome for that because you can just stop it, click back a little bit, get my clip machine going, roll it, got the clip, fantastic. And that's how I got... Who told you this? You did.

1:58:48 So it should have been tip of the day. It should have been. YouTube TV's dynamite because of its virtual recording system. The virtual PCR and you can basically record everything and it keeps it for like 90 days. Yeah, I mean, I've already got all my favorite Olympic sports lined up. It's great. Including fencing. I doubt, well, you'd have that, but that would be the only one. No, and athletics. The other stuff's not gay enough for you. Fencing is. Wow. I'm sorry, it was uncalled for. Fencing is anything but gay. That's a real man's sport. Without all the protective gear, I'd say yes. So who shows up for the opening interview on Bill Maher's show? Mayor Pete! Pete Buttigieg! Very interesting. Spoke better than he usually does. Should Joe Biden have fired the Secret Service head? I mean, I don't understand that.

1:57:53 So they are they're upset about me. I'm gonna stop doing tip of the day because they I get so much blow you don't get that much crap to this Oh, please but people love you. Hey, you know, you're over the target when you're getting flack. Oh That must be it All right. I'm gonna close the conspiracy Well, no, I'm gonna keep the door open for a minute because we got to go into the next piece which is critically important Lo and behold, on the Bill Maher show, which I just happened to catch on CNN because I was prepping last night and you know I always have a scanner through the channels just to see if I need to clip anything. By the way, YouTube TV, here's a tip of the day, YouTube TV is so awesome for that because you can just stop it, click back a little bit, get my clip machine going, roll it, got the clip, fantastic. And that's how I got... Who told you this? You did.

1:58:48 So it should have been tip of the day. It should have been. YouTube TV's dynamite because of its virtual recording system. The virtual PCR and you can basically record everything and it keeps it for like 90 days. Yeah, I mean, I've already got all my favorite Olympic sports lined up. It's great. Including fencing. I doubt, well, you'd have that, but that would be the only one. No, and athletics. The other stuff's not gay enough for you. Fencing is. Wow. I'm sorry, it was uncalled for. Fencing is anything but gay. That's a real man's sport. Without all the protective gear, I'd say yes. So who shows up for the opening interview on Bill Maher's show? Mayor Pete! Pete Buttigieg! Very interesting. Spoke better than he usually does. Should Joe Biden have fired the Secret Service head? I mean, I don't understand that.

1:59:47 I'm not in on all the details of the Oman security side. I know there's a really serious after action report and process and a whole lot of scrutiny going on there. I think everything that led up to that moment, that horrible moment is under a microscope. And I believe that President Biden and the administration will do the right thing. But you didn't need a microscope to see it. Yeah, but you also- I was on the roof, like not that far away with a rifle for a long time. I mean, I don't I've seen people fired for less and it just looks bad. It looks like, well, the other guy from the other party got shot. We'll look into it if we get time. I think it's that when something of this gravity happens, you don't just dash off a decision. You do a comprehensive process to find every single piece of anything that could go wrong. And then there's going to be accountability.

2:00:35 And there's going to be change. I'm sure of that. Again, I'm not in the middle of that obviously. That's not my lane. But I know that's what's going to happen. My lane? Yes, not my lane. It's not his lane. It's his lane. Well, we know what Pete's lane is. So, that's what triggered me on the other thing. So then he gets into JD Vance and I have a few things to say about JD Vance because I've done some reflection and thinking about it and it all of a sudden became incredibly clear to me actually Thursday night when I was watching J.D. Vance and and you know and his wife and just seeing all the dynamics happening J.D. Vance of course people have a lot of issues with him mainly because he switched from a never trumper which Vance himself says well that was you know I was 30 I said dumb things and I got three girls around 30 and I agree with that When you're 30, I've said dumb stuff when I was 30, but he changed his tune and

2:01:32 Then of course there's the very problematic connection to the PayPal mafia, to Elon and to Thiel. And he was a venture capital guy and Thiel helped him win Ohio and it went so fast and he changed his name, he changed his last name, he changed his first name. manufactured candidate. So let's hear from Mayor Pete. I know a lot of guys like J.D. Vance. I've run into a lot of guys like him. Not so much when I was growing up in Indiana. Peter Thiel. Peter Thiel is his big backer. Yeah, for sure. Okay, people don't know who that is. He started PayPal. He's gay. He's a billionaire. I've had a couple of people who knew you were coming on this week say, ask Pete what he thinks about Peter Thiel being so in love with J.D. Vance, who is against, flatly against gay marriage.

2:02:24 I think it's a profound contradiction, but maybe it's not that complicated. I know there are a lot of folks who say, what's going on with some of these Silicon Valley folks veering into Trump world with J.D. Vance and backing Trump? Or are they thinking Silicon Valley is supposed to be, you know, they're supposed to care about climate, they're supposed to be, you know, pro-science and rational and libertarians, normally libertarians don't like authoritarians. What's up with that? I think it's actually, we've made it way too complicated. These are very rich men who have decided to back the Republican Party that tends to do good things for very rich men. And by the way, that's kind of what you're getting with J.D., right? So I knew a lot of people like him when I got to Harvard. I found a lot of people like him who would say whatever they needed to to get ahead.

2:03:18 And five years ago, that seemed like being the anti-Trump Republican, so that's what he was. Talked about how he was unfit, how he was cynical. Called him an opioid. Five years later. It's kind of a weird thing to say about a person, but definitely a really... But I mean, for somebody whose identity is that they're connected to Appalachia, which has an opioid crisis, that really is the darkest thing you could possibly say about Donald Trump. Okay, so the first thing we need to look at is the Silicon Valley connection. Trump talked about the power needed for AI. He's like, yeah, I'll get you as much power as you want. Drill, baby, drill. By the way, before I forget, Trump also

2:04:00 told, gave a signal to the military-industrial complex. You heard him say it, big beautiful ship being built here, big beautiful ship and an iron dome around America. Does it get any better? The contracts are being written as we speak. So there'll be no war but we'll have finally Reagan's Star Wars or as Trump called it spaceship or whatever. He screwed it up. I mean he set up Space Force So we're gonna have an Iron Dome, perfect. So there's your military guys, they're like, oh, okay, well good, we got a lot of work to do. But bringing in the Silicon Valley money people, who are, as we've discussed, whores, because they're Democrat, they're Republican, it doesn't matter, whoever is going to be their guy

2:04:50 who was going to, and that's what Peter Thiel was doing. He was of course funding JD Vance. Let's get him in. Then we, because he understands and he can get the regulation lifted on AI because those guys still believe in it. They got to believe in something. Crypto regulation, Bitcoin, all of that makes total sense. And just to give you a little idea of, I mean, this blew my mind. Zuckerberg, Zuckerberg even saying things like this. I've done some stuff personally in the past. I'm not planning on doing that this time. And that includes not endorsing either of the candidates. Now look, I mean, there's obviously a lot of crazy stuff going on in the world. I mean, the historic events over the last, like over the weekend. And I mean, on a personal note, it's, yeah, I mean, seeing Donald Trump get up after getting shot in the face.

2:05:42 and pompous fist in the air with the American flag is one of the most badass things I've ever seen in my life. But look, I mean it's... You know, as and I think look at some level as an American, it's like look hard to not get kind of emotional about that spirit. And that fight, I think that that's why a lot of people like the guy. Mark Zuckerberg has no emotional bone in his body. He's like, regulation for Facebook, Facebook, you know, Trump's gonna hate me because you know, we kicked them off and so it's very normal for a guy like Trump to bring in the Silicon Valley clan, bring in the money.

2:06:25 Bring all the big boys in, bring in the social media guys. Elon flips on a dime, said he'd never endorse any candidate. Makes total sense. Now we get to, will he be reliable? Can you trust him as a vice president? Will he be a true partner? Five years later, the way he gets ahead is that he's the greatest guy since sliced bread. And I actually watched this exact same process with somebody else I got to know in my days in the Midwest, which was my former governor, Mike Pence. who I watched start out as an evangelical Christian who cared about rectitude and family values, and then get on board with a guy who was mixed up with a porn star, make excuses for him so that he could have power. And then he did. He got four glorious years, I guess, as vice president of the United States. And it ended on the West Front of the Capitol with

2:05:42 and pompous fist in the air with the American flag is one of the most badass things I've ever seen in my life. But look, I mean it's... You know, as and I think look at some level as an American, it's like look hard to not get kind of emotional about that spirit. And that fight, I think that that's why a lot of people like the guy. Mark Zuckerberg has no emotional bone in his body. He's like, regulation for Facebook, Facebook, you know, Trump's gonna hate me because you know, we kicked them off and so it's very normal for a guy like Trump to bring in the Silicon Valley clan, bring in the money.

2:06:25 Bring all the big boys in, bring in the social media guys. Elon flips on a dime, said he'd never endorse any candidate. Makes total sense. Now we get to, will he be reliable? Can you trust him as a vice president? Will he be a true partner? Five years later, the way he gets ahead is that he's the greatest guy since sliced bread. And I actually watched this exact same process with somebody else I got to know in my days in the Midwest, which was my former governor, Mike Pence. who I watched start out as an evangelical Christian who cared about rectitude and family values, and then get on board with a guy who was mixed up with a porn star, make excuses for him so that he could have power. And then he did. He got four glorious years, I guess, as vice president of the United States. And it ended on the West Front of the Capitol with

2:07:16 Trump supporters proposing that he be hanged for using the one shred of integrity He still had to stand up to an attempt to overthrow the government So I guess maybe not as a politician but as a human being what I'll say is that I hope things work out a little bit better for JD Vance than they did for me. All right, so what does everyone get all their panties all in a bunch about? The connection to the intelligence community because Peter Thiel, Palantir, oh Whitney Webb wrote a 6,800 word essay about

2:07:52 JD Vance the man behind Trump's VP pick is worse than you think intelligence Total information awareness. This is the worst thing Trump is a dummy. He's an idiot. He's bringing in the intelligence We're gonna be all under surveillance 24-7 Welcome to my office here in the conspiracy therapist suite of offices Trump is smart when when Pence became untrustworthy. He just says, guy's a loser. When JD Vance is untrustworthy, guy's a loser, we'll know very quickly. But first you're bringing in the Silicon Valley billionaires and

2:08:41 He's an art of war guy. You keep your friends close, but your enemies even closer. Of course you want the intelligence community in your vice president. So you can misdirect, you can give him a little bit of information, see where it comes back. This is a brilliant move. You want the intel community, you want to know who the guy is. I think Vance is probably reasonably smart, but maybe not super smart. This is exactly what you want to do, because the intelligence community is the danger. So this, I mean, I cannot agree with all of these people getting their panties in a bunch and getting all spun up. This is what you want. You want a president who knows what the intel communities are doing because he's got them in the office next door, and he knows the guy.

2:09:34 This is what you do. You want to find a leak in your company? Give some information to somebody that only that person has. See where it comes out. I'm closing the door. Sound effect. Yes. So don't worry everybody. Now, will Trump stay alive? I mean, I heard this morning. There this was a what's-his-face a Sorkin Sorkin who wrote the West Wing didn't he didn't Sorkin write the West Wing was one of the one of the West Wing producers Andrew Ross Sorkin I don't think so. I thought he was I think you're thinking of the other guy who is the Well, just keep talking. I'll check it out. Okay. Yeah, you know we don't have to guess yes, please I

2:10:23 So he does an op-ed in the... Aaron Sorkin. Oh, okay. That's why I was confused. Well, Andrew Ross Sorkin is a weenie anyway. He does an op-ed in the New York Times and he says, Joe Biden out, the solution, Mitt Romney. The Democrats should run Mitt Romney. Which I think is probably what Vivek has been talking about. Oh no, oh no, who are they? You watch who they're gonna pick. You watch, it'll never be Trump. So they actually suggest Mitt Romney for the Democrats. How about that? That's very funny. It was a humor column, I take it. Yeah, unfortunately these guys are void of any humor.

2:11:12 So I think that's about all we can answer right now. That's about all we can answer right now because breaking news, nobody knows anything, we have no information. We're not going to get any more than we're doing. Our analysis is as far as it goes. And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you the man who put the C in the can, Inspector. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeWitt. Good morning to you Mr. Adam Currie, Mr. Sisi, Mr. Seaborg, Mr. Graffiti, Mr. Neerstubs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. Yeah that's right, well we are an hour late but let's see how it looks. Wow, I'm pretty impressed actually. $2,899, two hours in. That's good, that's a good number. That's a great number. Hello trolls, good to have you here. Of course we had a thousand come in to tell us that Biden quit so...

2:12:08 We appreciate you guys so much. I'm actually surprised he quit when he did. I thought it was going to go another week at least. Well, I mean I had Thursday night, you know, so I was close. I was close. Well, we had a different distraction because... Close but no cigar. They didn't get the jet card, so they had to come up with something else. Which brings us to the bonus clip. Oh, look at that. Is that something that you sent that I don't have? No, I have it right here. No, it's on the list, but it's bonus for the, we always like to say that people listen to the donations segment. Oh yes, yes, but for the bonus clip. Yes. Okay. Biden not going anywhere. President Joe Biden's campaign meanwhile continues to insist this weekend that Biden will not step down as the Democratic presidential candidate. Calls for Biden to drop out of the race have continued to grow with the latest coming from a senator from the Midwest. NPR's Elena Moore explains.

2:13:00 We saw Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio come forward and he's in a really competitive race this fall. And he argues that the speculation around Biden's political future is actually taking away from the messaging around issues that he is trying to use to keep his seat, you know. And, you know, he was actually the fourth senator to call for Biden to step aside. And there's been more than two dozen elected House Democrats who have said the same thing. This weekend, he's not quitting. No, not quit. Just so you get that out there. Yeah. All right. So there's these reports are bogus. I guess because today is part of the weekend. And we've been calling. We've been telling this is going to happen. We were so clear it was obvious it only happened two days later. Not bad. Not bad. So three, actually. OK.

2:13:51 Three still pretty close. We had the number right and you watch the jet card will be a part of it along with the foundation Excuse me along with the foundation hundred million dollars. It's gotta be some money. Yeah seed money party Everybody party at hunters house So those trolls that we just counted are in the troll room troll room dot IO. You can find that 24 seven. There's always trolls hanging out there. It's part of the no agenda stream empire. We have shows on there all the time. As I said, 24 seven. Um, some of them are, the podcasts have been recorded previously or we do have a schedule. So, uh, sir, Ben Rose schedules everything nicely. So you, whenever you go in there, there's something fresh, a lot of live shows. Darren O'Neill does his live show.

2:14:34 before our Thursday and Sunday shows and often there's a live show afterwards. Let me see, do we have a live show after today? Oh yes, yeah, Unrelenting. I don't know if that's live or not, but they're doing the CrowdStrike chaos. So it's a good place to hang out. And you can also use a modern podcast app which will alert you when we go live or any of these shows go live really which is kind of cool. And it'll also tell you within 90 seconds of us publishing the show if you couldn't listen live that it's there. It's got chapters with cool art. Dreb Scott does those for us. It's got transcripts. It's got a hootenanny of features and it's brought to you by independent people who are doing this just to keep podcasting free and open. I, there was a

2:15:19 an interesting article about podcast numbers in the United Kingdom because, you know, they had this big political week and in the UK you're not allowed to do any political stuff on television or radio. So everyone was looking to podcasts to get their political information. And so now they've gotten the... This is UK, it's a country of 60 million, probably 65 million now with all the illegal people. Podcasters are very secretive about exact listener numbers, but they did get a few. And for instance, what do you think the news agents, the hottest podcast, the hottest podcast out there, what do you think they get in the UK average episode view per episode? This is a question for me to guess? Yeah, listen, not a view, a listen. 2,000.

2:16:20 So it's the hottest podcast out there. Oh, the hottest one? It's the hottest one. The news agency. Okay, 2,500. No, it's 42,000. Oh, well, it's, you know, it's very... We get multiple times that. Yeah, we get more long lines of 800,000. How about Pod Save the UK? Which is the daily show for, you know, Pod Save America. So it's the crooked media. It's the same douchebag. Oh, that's cute. Yeah. 30,000 an episode. And these people are making big money. Well, that's because they take advertising and they soak the advertisers. It takes skill. But the problem is, of course, you can't really do a reasonably good podcast if you're going to be beholding to some corporate advertiser that's going to watch you say what they want you to say. Exactly. I copied you on my response.

2:17:15 You know, they're so desperate, they're looking for inventory because turns out most of these podcasts are just getting crap numbers. Oh, oh, the pod save the UK. No one's listening to you, douche. No Agenda, best podcast in the universe, so they're so desperate for inventory, they're emailing us. Hey, we'd like to know what it would cost to run NetSuite ads on No Agenda. Have you ever listened? This is well, you know this reminds me I don't want to tell another story. Oh, come on Okay, so I'm on the Highlander which is the Forbes yacht? Drinking champagne eating caviar with potato chips pretty much. Yeah

2:18:01 They have a full-time chef on board. It's a really nice yacht. It's called the Highlander. They have matchbooks. Everyone steals a batch of those. So it was a big deal to go on this thing because they don't normally let riders on, but I was on the thing for it and it was a media buyer. This thing is amazing! The Highlander? Yeah. Nice boat. Yeah, it's not a boat, it's a ship. So they gave us a tour around Manhattan while it was really a tour for the media buyers. Yeah, of course. And so this is what, and people always irked about this, and there's a lot of stories about this boat

2:18:41 confronting other small boats and other publishers tried to you know impress people with. And then going by... Going by giving them the finger. So I got to talk to a bunch of they're all young women just out of school and they're all media buyers and so there's mostly a boat full of women that are all media buyers. Hey girls, his job. Pretty much. And so you get to chat with him and it's like, oh yeah, we bought this. We're going to be going to buy, do a buy, purchase for so-and-so. They're all part of some advertising agency and they buy space in the different magazines and they were, you know, Forbes takes them on this little boat ride. So they impress them and they feel obliged to buy, to push advertising to Forbes at the time. And, um,

2:19:31 Not one of the media bars I've ever talked to, at least on this particular voyage, knew... they never looked at any of these magazines. They were totally... oh no, you know... We're just here for the caviar. We got a free boat ride, I'm giving you advertising. It was all corrupt. What? You don't say. What is gambling going on? You don't say. Yeah, it's not like any of these media buyers listen to the podcast they're buying. No, and that's a point you were making. Yeah, you saw my reply. I said, 17 years we've been a listener funded, we don't take advertising. I mentioned this exact thing on your boss's podcast just three weeks ago. Yeah, they don't even listen to their own boss's podcast.

2:20:16 I thought that was funny. Ah, yes. Hey girls, I got a podcast. Where's your bikini? Did they have bikinis on? No, there were just, there were just the classic co, it's just out of school co-ed style sorority sisters all drinking, you know, eating the filet mignon and drinking the booze. There was lots of it. Awesome. We're in the wrong business. Yeah, probably. So as you just heard, we run this value for value, which means we don't take your NetSuite advertising and we've got a bigger audience anyway. So stand on the sidelines and boohoo bully you. You can't buy us. We're unbuyable. Well, until it's time for an exit. But for now, we're unbuyable. Yeah, well, everyone has a price.

2:21:12 He said no one's coming close so forget it. No one's coming close. You can support us with your financial contributions. No boat ride here, by the way. You'll get a credit if you're an executive or associate executive producer. But you can also help us with your time, your talent. You can support us by getting other people to listen. You know, it's always fun. Every single day I see on my timeline on X, I see people, oh yeah, you should listen to No Agenda, Kareem Dvorak. My favorite is when someone Someone from some podcast goes, who should I have on as a guest next? And it's always, yeah, Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. And that we've never been booked on those. So you can stop. We never do get it. Never. They see us as competition or something. I'm not sure. And we're not. But he gets a log rolling. Well, they know that they'll never get us together because you only get the. Yeah, you both do that show. Nope. No, no. If you want Adam and John together, this is the only place. And that's our secret sauce.

2:22:15 We get a lot of talent from our artists who use noagendaartgenerator.com, another fine value for value contribution for Sir Paul Couture, which he's been running for a long time for us, keeps all the art in check. It's a great place to upload. Anybody can compete, anybody can go take a look at it. Right after the show, we get everything together, we do the credits, we get the title and then artwork and we choose one and that's really something we use for marketing the show and it's a big help. It's a lot of value to us. There's no way you could get artists to do 20, 30 pieces for every single show done while we're doing the show live. Now it doesn't mean that everything is great. AI has certainly hurt the quality of the work. Everything kind of looks the same.

2:23:01 Well, it's hurt the... I don't think it's hurt the quality. Well, it's hurt the look. I think it's hurt... I think the look has become AI-ish. Yeah, the soul has gone out, which is kind of what I liked about Dame Kenny Ben, one of our Dutch masters, who... and we had a big argument over this. In fact, John's like, you owe me for this one. You owe me. I thought it was a great... Those two in a row. You owe me twice, you owe me double. I thought it was an excellent piece. I understood the humor of it. It was the sloped rope roof with the little, what was it, little traffic sign with a little man slipping on the sloped roof. And the reason why John didn't like it is because, and this is very interesting, because there's a chimney on it, but you kept saying chimney.

2:23:53 Chimney. Is it chimney or chimney? Probably both. I think it's just chimney. Well, chimney. You kept saying chimney. I'm adding an I in the middle of it for some unknown reason. Probably some mid-western affectation. You kept saying chimney. I'm like, it's a chimney. Chimney. It's got a chimney. It's not a chimney. It's a chimney. Dame Kenny Benn brought us that artwork we really appreciated, Stolen Cookies, the title of episode 1678. We had a hard time. We had a hard time. I'll be honest with you, we had a hard time finding anything. that we thought was... Now, we did talk a lot about Darren O'Neal. You liked his...

2:24:30 his Olympic boxes with the bed on it. I thought it was outstanding. I thought it was too early because the Olympics aren't happening yet and it's a little obscure. No, but we were talking about the cardboard box. We were. I knew the Rubik's Cube by Darren and all AI, of course, all AI, which... Yeah, he's gone nuts. He's gone into... he's become a pump jockey. Yeah. But that's not the real controversy. The controversy, and I'm very irked about this, is Matthew Drobko. Oh, yes, because that's the first one we wanted. Yeah, and we took a look at it and you said you know what it is explain what it is Okay, it's a picture of three versions of spider-man. We've all pointing at each other in the meme and once his local police department Secret Service FBN they're all pointing at each other's was their fault and So you said

2:25:21 We've stopped doing this. We used to always almost routinely check on image search. Yeah, I said this is this has got to be Yeah, and there's about a thousand versions of this all the exact same drawing. He just stole it I mean, it's so stolen. It's ridiculous. So now I can't trust anything drop code gives us well to be fair I mean this is this meme has been used so much in the past but you saw it with local PD Secret Service FBI those three tags or not? No, I just said the art, it was different versions of the same thing. It's beside the point. Yeah. It wasn't exactly the same and obviously nothing said no agenda. It's just that it's just like there was nothing original

2:26:06 I mean, yeah, you could... No. No, as far as I'm concerned, it's stolen art. It was a bad meme, man. It was a bad meme. And it's not what there was one or two of them. We're talking 20, 30, 40, 50 of these things. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this has been around. This has been around. Yeah, it's been around too much. And we're gonna get called out by Comic Strip Blogger. That is stolen artwork. That is not original. That is bad meme. Blah, blah, blah, blah. ComixReelBlogger is about to never get you. When you upload 15 versions of your AI, you know, all next to each other, it's like my eyes glaze over. How about this for an idea? Find the... only upload the good one. Yeah, well there you go. And it's still... you gotta have soul, it's gotta have humor. You know, just because it looks, you know, slick doesn't mean that it's good anyway.

2:26:58 Rant over we appreciate the true Dutch masters and the yes the true Dutch masters, and there's nothing we're gonna be able to do by it we're resigned to resigned to the fact that this AI art is I mean, the good side is that this is costing the AI company's money. Because there's no way that you can produce that much material and not be losing your ass. So one of our producers, I typically don't like this because people do this to me, like, hey, I sent every back issue of QRZ magazine to your PO box. It's great. All that ham radio information. So a box will show up with like 150 dusty old magazines.

2:27:42 And it's like, okay, I'm not Dvorak, I'm not an archivist, but one of our producers sent me every single back issue of Wired magazine that had some AI-related story. Pretty interesting. This nonsense, this belief in artificial intelligence has been going on for a long time. And just because we got a bot that now can chat with you, it's stupid. You always had a bot that could chat with you. Exactly. All this image stuff, it's all going to go away once the funding dries up. If you're taking a beating, which you have to be doing,

2:28:28 At some point even at 20 bucks a month they got even 20 bucks it would that Darren O'Neill's using thousands of dollars worth of cycle time to develop the art he's doing nothing I don't know what comic strip bloggers it's called his compute compute By the way, I heard a new term. So JC's at the dinner table and he keeps saying, out of the blue, he keeps saying this term. And I called him, I stopped him, I asked him, what venture capitalist did you get this from? And what I kept hearing was, oh yeah, well, the wind direction, the wind direction. I kept hearing wind direction. But the term is wind.

2:29:08 Win direction is a term they're using in Silicon Valley now amongst the VCs. You mean the direction of winning? Yeah, the win direction. Oh. And I'm listening to this, I'm saying, because it's out of the blue. I mean, he doesn't just start using some term out of the blue. And I stopped him. I said, where did you get this stupid term, win direction? And then he thought about it, he didn't say it again after that. He's not saying wind erection? No, he's saying wind direction. And I could just see it as a kind of one of those bogus terms you know these guys like to throw out there. Well our wind direction will be such and such and such. Wow, that's even lamer than usual. It's pretty lame but at the same time I can see it.

2:29:59 Because it just has a ring to it. I don't know who dreams these isolates up, but wind direction is just like, oh, we're going to do, yeah, we're going to change our wind direction because the wind... Our wind direction is Trump. It used to be, you could use it in place of pivot, which is another one. Yeah, pivot was a big one. Yeah. For a while there in the advertising world, we had the conceit. What's the conceit of the campaign? The conceit? Yes, the conceit of the campaign. Oh my god. I know, I know, I know. It's horrible. Anyway, Treasure Time. We'd like to thank all of our producers. Now we can't thank every single one of you because luckily we have many people who are doing sustaining donations. If everybody did that, it'd be great. But that's a pipe dream. That's not our win direction.

2:30:54 So under $50... Yeah, you got there already. I'm going to keep using it. Under $50, we don't mention anything for anonymity and you can set up your own frequency, your own amount, whatever value you get out of the program. And I think we're even... People email us, hey, your wind direction is great these days. So we want to thank those producers. We're going to go through everything in one go here because we went very long in the conspiracy therapy office. But our executive producers who really always save the day for us, and many of you saw the sad puppy come out and we thank you for that. We did okay.

2:31:35 $200 and above you get an associate executive producer credit. It's a real credit. All these count towards your knighthood, even $1 a month if you want. I mean, everything will get you to $1,000 eventually. And then you get a knighthood or a damehood and a ring and your sealing wax and the official certificate of authenticity. $300 above you're an executive producer. Now you can use both of these producer credits at IMDb. Or you could put in your LinkedIn or any other stupid social media thing you're on and and people will think you're very impressive Because you are an actual producer and unlike Hollywood by the way anyone questions that you send them to us will vouch for you So we're gonna start where our executive producers first and we kick it off with our top Producer with $600 Andrew Alexander comes in from Santa Fe, New Mexico 600. I have no note from Andrew Alexander and

2:32:28 And you don't have a note either I presume? Well, I'm looking up everyone who's named Andrew. Yeah, that should be a lot. And I got a list and we got Andrew... Alexander. No. Okay, so he gets a double up karma then. You've got... karma. I can read the... I gotta read the subject on one of them. Another Andrew says, kid on roof never hit Trump's ear. Ketchup. Yeah, ketchup. Okay, we go to Cody Osburn.

2:33:06 OZBIRN parts unknown 35093 ITM responding to the call for aid only been listening for seven months or so but thanks for all you both do I need the most drastic baby-making karma you guys can muster my wife is 60 and she is beyond pissed let's make it happen godspeed all all right let's get her pissed you've got karma Funny Cody. Danielle Parks, Frederick, Maryland 343.75. Hello, she says. You often mention the importance of parents getting their kids out of traditional schools and I agree 100%. No jingles, but yak karma would be appreciated for all us parents trying to keep our kids from being indoctrinated. Yes. Parents in the DMV, in the DMV? I think that's mass.

2:34:08 Maryland, Virginia, District of Columbia. Ah, okay, it's not like Department of Motor Vehicles. Okay, gotcha. Yes, yes. Maryland, yes. Seeking ways to do that should check out Apogee HOCO. A-P-O-G-E-E-O-C-O-L-E-G-E-O-C-O-L-E-G-E-O-C-O-L-E-G-E-O-C-O-L-E-G-E-O-C-O-L-E-G-E-O-C-O-L-E-G-E-O-C-O-L-E-G-E-O-C-O-L-E-G-E-O-C-O-L-E-G-E-O-C-O-L-E-G-E-O-C-O-L-E-G-E-O-C-O-L- H-O-C-O dot org. It's an innovative education campus focused on developing character and critical thinking in an environment free from political agendas. I'm including a link to the website in case you'd be so kind to include it in the show notes. Sure I will. Thanks and keep up the great work. And again, Apogee, A-P-O-G-E-E H-O-C-O dot org. And some yak karma for y'all. You've got karma.

2:34:55 Baron Foxbat in Cincinnati 34375. Hey John and Adam, Baron Foxbat here. It's been a while since donating so I decided to respond to the sad puppy. Thank you. John, if you consider getting together with someone like Andrew Oh and doing a tech podcast would be great. That would be great. The man with the tan. Andrew Orlowski? I guess. It could be. Andrew did. Andrew and I, we talk every so often. It would be a different kind of tech podcast, but I've given up on the idea of tech podcasting. I think nobody cares. I had an Orlowski, I think I, I don't know if I clipped it. He was on some podcast and he was saying exactly what I said about AI. He said, ah,

2:35:44 AI's been around for 10 years, but then there's some parlor trick where all of a sudden it sounds like a human, everyone loses their crap, and invests a trillion dollars. He's like, this is dumb, it's not gonna work. Andrew is the man. Yeah, he's been very skeptical of a lot of technologies. And rightly so. Barron Sir Goodfellow, Davenport floor, 333.33, our favorite number. Barron Sir Goodfellow here. It's been far too long since my last donation. I'll keep it simple. More Africa news. Deconstruct more bills from Congress and rent your AV gear from Gigrent at gigrent.com. No jingles, no karma. Thank you. Yes, more Africa news. You got it. Coming up.

2:36:29 Well, Bill of Ohio and Columbus, 333.33, ITM, two years ago yesterday, July 20th, I hosted a Central Ohio, Michigan meetup, which introduced, I'm sorry, Central Ohio meetup, no, Michigan, which introduced me to a bunch of wonderful people. The people I have met along with the show have kept me sane these past few years, although sanity is overrated. Special thanks to Sir Leary for keeping the planning and organizing of the Central Ohio meetups going consistently. Come to one! Prove you're not a fed and join the local troll room. Connection is protection. I shall be henceforth known as Wild Bill, he's getting knighted, of Ohio. D-Doucher of Joe Rogan. Also, it's my 37th birthday. Strippers and non-fentanyl blow, please. Wild Bill of Ohio. D-Douche. D-Doucher of Joe Rogan. Does he need a d-douching? No, I don't think so.

2:37:27 Hey, there's Sir Erra Dardarian from Tobago Canyon. Yes, in California, Associate Executive Producer, $250. He says, thank you. Well, thank you, Sir Erra. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. John By in Golden, Colorado, 21060. Thinking about it, the stopping of JD's Good News segment corresponded with some bad happenings. Probably the best to bring it back to make the world a smiley happy place. That's a good point. I think it's a very valid point. Ever since we stopped doing good news, the world has gone nuts. That's not an interesting thought.

2:38:07 Then we have Eli the Coffee Guy from Bensonville, Illinois, a standard staple in the associate executive producer realm 20721. Crowdstrike's failure on Friday made me think how dependent our society is on just a few companies for the backbone of our technological infrastructure. Google. AWS, Microsoft and all the rest. Simplicity is sustainability. Buy local, get to know your neighbors and utilize technology. Just don't become a slave to it. A good way to utilize technology to save time and simplify your life is to get fresh roasted coffee shipped right to your door. So for a great coffee at a great price, visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com. Use code ITM20 for 20% off your order. Stay caffeinated. Eli the coffee guy. Thank you. Yes, I actually wound up helping a couple of my neighbors who are remote workers and I got them out of the blue screen. That's what you do for your neighbors. That's what you do.

2:39:00 They had the blue screen? Yeah, remote workers, so you know, their computers, they left them on. That stinks. Baroness Monica in Drayton Valley, Alberta does not stink and she gives us $202.02. Still enjoying your media deconstruction. With an exclamation mark. Yes. Karma for Ken and Lance. Thank you kindly, Baroness Monica. You've got Karma. Getting to the end here of the associate executive producers. Irvin Wieldin. Irvin? Irvin? Murray, Nebraska. $200. I need a deducing. You've been deduced. And Irvin says, I have completed 54 trips around the sun on July 20th, so we're only one day late. You're on the list. Congratulations, Irvin. And there we get to Linda Lepatkin. There she is.

2:39:53 Lakewood, Colorado. Jobs, Karma, and John's Donate. Donate! For a resume that gets results, visit ImageMakersInc.com for all your go-to for all your exec- You're a go-to. I can't do the read today. Butchering your read. You're a go-to for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMakersNeededWithAK.com. And work with Linda Liu, the Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes. She's going to be listed on the producer list. You can click her name, I believe. Oh, wait, let me do it the other way around. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Yeah!

2:40:38 Classic. Thank you, Linda Lou. Rob Carty, $200. And he has an attached note. Let me see. I believe I have it here. I do. No. Yes, it is. Here he is. He is the official constitutional lawyer of the No Agenda Show. Dear Adam and John, ITM go ahead and cash the enclosed $200 check now but kindly save the announcement for your July 21st show. That's my 59th birthday could you kindly add me to the list? It's taken care of. Three quick notes. One, Linda Lou Patkin is a saint who deserves all the... this is great...

2:41:24 This is better than advertising. She gets more publicity from other people. She's going to stop donating. Linda Lupatkin is a saint who deserves all the success NOA Agenda has bestowed on her and more. Lately she's been helping my daughter Danielle. Linda is a genius and a magnificent soul. Two, I've been providing time and talent for a while now and hitting many months, but I understand that treasure is what keeps the lights on and the pantry stocks. Please de-douche me. You've been de-douched. Wow. Time, talent, and treasure. And he's a lawyer. Three, Texas and California producers can check out my firm and me at rob.lawyer. Yep, that's the URL, rob.lawyer. We help private litigants and business people with EULAs.

2:42:09 I also help fellow lawyers with appeals and complex or critical briefings. So check out Rob.Lawyer and let's see how I can help get mo' nation. I respectfully request, open up Adam Curry, could you keep, open up Adam Curry Karma to keep us all out of jail. Mr. Adam Curry. Open up the door Mrs. Curry, now! Alright, Rob Carty, thank you Rob. You've got karma. Be sure you check out the show notes. Sometimes we don't get to his excellent deconstructions. He has a nice signature. Yeah, well that's what you do as a lawyer. You want to have something that's recognizable. That's good. He does. Is he in Houston? Yes, he is. No, Canyon Lake. That's not quite Houston. That's his office. But in the show notes, I often have a boots on the ground from him, which is deconstructing any of like the Chevron deference. I mean, he helped us a lot on that. So

2:43:02 Thank you, brother. Appreciate it. And you're on the list. And that concludes our executive and associate executive producers for episode 16. What are we at? 79. Wow. Getting up there. We're going to keep it going all the way through to thank everybody up until $50. And I'll kick it off here with Nathan Cochran because he's our buddy. For mercy me. 123.45. Still listening, still laughing, still playing music. Thank you very much. John, take it all the way. What happened to our Weezer guy? Anonymous in Raleigh, North Carolina, 120. Our Weezer guy? Patrick! What happened to Patrick? He's overboard. John Witten, 105.35. Simon Bruce Cassidy in Oslo, Norway, 105.35.

2:43:49 Brian Keefe in Sierra Vista, Arizona, 105. We can do this list because it's very short actually after we get past here, it's going to fall apart. Kenneth Ryan in Bonita Springs, Florida, 100. Milton Mize in Covington, Louisiana, 100. is a Rogan donation. Rogan donation. Brian Lillard in Prosper, Texas. 88888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888

2:44:25 Kevin McLaughlin, there he is, the Archduke of Luna, lover of American boobs with 8008 boobs. Kiernan Stinson in Harrogate, Tennessee, 76-76. Kyle Poclask in Hannibal, Missouri, 70-something. Sir, oh, Okay, he says I butcher his name so it's Potchiak. Potchiasque. Potch, ah, okay. Well done.

2:45:04 Pochiesk, that's got to be it. Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington, $69.96. Brian McFadden in Hampton, Virginia, $56. Another birthday boy. Baron Sir Lineman of the Net in Anna, Illinois, $55.33. Steven Eisenman in Chicago, $53.25. Craig Cortese in Abu Dhabi. Hey, get us some photos. 5272, there's funny stuff to take pictures of. Jean-Paul Bath... I think it's Bathian, but it's Bathian. What's going on in the background there? What noise am I hearing?

2:45:52 That is a noisy train load of oil. Oil tankers going by by the boatload. So we're shipping our oil to China. Andrew Bateon in Crestview, Florida, 5271. Now we got to the 50s already, starting with Christopher Hodges in Union, Mississippi. Nicholas Rudowich in Harpers Ferry, West Virginia. Larry Gardner in Ormond Beach, Florida. Lisa Piles in South Lake, Texas. Brian Warden in Cumming, Georgia. Michael Stadum in

2:46:31 Parts Unknown, Derek Allison in Rock Springs, Wyoming. He also has a douchebag callout for Travis Baggett. And last on our very short list of only total of 40 people... John Siebert in Auburn, California, $50. And that concludes our group of producers for shows 1679. Again, thank you to everyone who came in under $50 for anonymity. We do not mention any of those, but we do see you and we're very appreciative. And anyone of any amount, the whole point is we can't look at your pocketbook. Whatever is value to you, you send that to us and we're even, Stephen, fair and square. We appreciate it.

2:47:11 Obviously, thanks to our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1679. Thank you very much for being part of the grand experiment that is the NO Agenda Show. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Words. Order. Glitch. Shut up. Rage. Shut up. Become a producer today at noagendadonations.com. And here is our list for today. Irvin Wieldin turned 54 yesterday. Rob McCarty, the official constitutional lawyer of the No Agenda Show, turns 59 today. If you see him, wave and say hi. Congratulations. Adam Frederick celebrating today. Brian McFadden turns 56 on the 24th. And Will Wild Bill of Ohio

2:48:06 We say happy birthday to everybody here from the best podcast in the universe. So we have a, oh yes, we have the instant nighting note from the last show, Lou Barbenda. And Lubor says, Dear sirs, I seriously overspent on the last show. Must have been under the influence of unknown forces. But the four years I've been listening to your show is worth every penny of it. So please call me Sir Guy called Ben Protector, a bohemian giant. Bohemian giant mountains or something Okay, just steak and good local mead for the roundtable. Thank you He says well good because we have some we always have good local mead and some steak ready I've got my sword out John if you can grab your so you know I get the big boy nice So along with a little more bend our bend up wild

2:49:00 Wild Bill of Ohio, come on up gentlemen, both of you become knights today at the Noah Jenner Roundtable. Let me grab this big thing out here, the one that John put in my hands and I am very proud to pronounce the K-D as Sir Guy Called Ben Protector of Bohemian Giant Mountains or something. And Sir Wild Bill of Ohio, D-Doucher of Joe Rogan, gentlemen for you, we've got that beautiful local meat and a beautiful steak. We've got strippers and non-fentanyl blow, of course we have Rent Boys and Chardonnay should that be your preference, but I don't think so. Ruben Escriban and Jose, Geisses and Sake, Vodka, Vanilla, Bong hits and Bourbon here at the table. Sparkling cider and Esport, Ginger Ales and Gerbils. We got, oh of course, we got the mutton and the meat as always. That's what you can always snack on. We appreciate you supporting us and thank you all for continuing to support your No Agenda show, not for nothing.

2:49:46 the best podcast in the universe. You guys go over to noagenderrings.com. You'll see there that you can size your ring finger the one you want. Send that in to us with an address to ship off your ring. Comes with wax to seal your important correspondence and an official certificate of authenticity signed by myself. And John C. Dvorak, thanks and welcome to the Roundtable. So we have a number of Meetup reports. Remember, these are the producer-organized Meetups where people get together, hang out. It is your local community typically, although some people drive hours just to go to some of these. And we finally got a full report from the Amsterdam The Netherlands Meetup where I attended, which was over a month ago now, I think. So I might as well play it since they sent it in and did all the work.

2:50:37 Hey everybody, this is the crackpot. I am filled with hookers and blow. What a great meetup! I just deduced myself. Yuppie! Oh, in the morning! Shadorus, in the morning. Live today, from Texas to LA, bruh! In the morning! Hey, I'm Tante Niel. Hey listen, I'm looking for the Dutch masters here. Have you seen Dame Cady Ban or Daron O'Neill or Nesworks or Francisco Scaramanga? Have you seen them? I can't find them. Another welcome home. Glad I see the note I thought was in the house. It's Pogo! Hey, we're getting a boss back! Pogo! In the morning, send a whisper. Hey John, was Big Mike ever pregnant? This is the most crazy beat I've ever seen at the Winter's Sofa. Bingo! I came here to take the screaming goat home. John, I followed your advice. I bought a Lexus. Let's go for jobs! Yee!

2:51:31 In the morning, judges are awesome. Hi, this is Sir Plus. I deny everything. I got hairy legs. Sir Hair Co, not the suit. Bingo! In the morning, connection is protected. Sir Ron Noronir. Stay safe! Thank you for the gift! I found out that cannabis is actually a gateway drug to tobacco, to cigars. This is Roland again. Connection is protected. In the morning, This has got to be the longest meetup report ever! I like my old Lexus, and I love what I do. This is Jekyllene, aka Caroline. We're having a blast of a time. In the morning. Fantastico, Jekyllene. Adios, Mofos! I'm tired. I was really tired. You can tell why I was tired after that meetup. These people are high maintenance, but super fun. And didn't Tante Niel sound sweet? And a lot of people drive Lexi.

2:52:25 From the Netherlands we go to Sonoma, Wino country. In the morning, this is Sir Rekal Citrin Crazy Steve II here at the Sonoma, Wino country meetup 4.0 and we're all convinced there was a second shooter. Sir Riechmeister here in beautiful Sonoma County. Sir Montag enjoying a beautiful afternoon. This is a dude named Ben named Ben, a cow San Francisco soon to be Duke of San Francisco and made the second shooter was using the drone. This is Brian from work. I think there might have been third, fourth and fifth shooters. Next meet up will be at all. Cheers. This is Cynthia from naughty wine accessories. She doesn't care about any of that. Thank you. Adam and John.

2:53:06 In the morning! We stay in California for the San Diego meetup. Kanye a go-go. In the morning, this is Ryan. In the morning, this is Tim. In the morning, it's Sir Mike and congratulations, Kanye a go-go. In the morning, Daymon. In the morning, Dean Kelly of the Crushed Grapes. In the morning everybody we're here at the San Diego Meetup a little Ron Burgundy reference for y'all enjoy yourselves and over now See these meetups even have their own language. It's amazing. What's going on? They sent a picture along with this meetup report the Chicago meetup the Chicago crew is a good-looking crew Sir Vicks in Chicago. Hi Dame Cordy here in the morning. I

2:53:53 In the morning, this is Sir NBS in Chicago representing Down by the River. In the morning, this is Laura from Green Bay. Sir Brian with a Y doing it live. Hi, William. In the morning. Morning. In the morning. And someone will edit that, right? Yeah, sure. I always edit everything when necessary. No problem at all. Thank you so much for sending in your meetup reports. We have a couple of meetups taking place. Let me see, today being Sunday, Margarita meetup, two o'clock, it's underway at Palm Beach Gardens, Florida at Lenora's Alton. Hello everybody there! We have East Central Illinois, their meetup is underway at Triptych Brewing.

2:54:31 I think it is in Savoy, Illinois. North Georgia Monthly starts at 6 o'clock at Cherry Street Brewing, Alpharetta, Georgia. And a special mention, let me see, we have, I want to mention that we have the Houston meetup coming on August 3rd, I think. Is that the Houston meetup? I thought something was coming up on the 11th as well. But there's, we've got Oshkosh on July 26th. We've got Wiesbaden, Germany. Hello! Here's the Hoff, Wiesbaden, July 27th. LA on the 27th, Ironton, Minnesota, Mount Juliet, Tennessee, Columbus, Ohio, Tokyo, Shibuya, Japan on the 27th, need a meetup report, followed by the 28th, Trinidad and Tobago, hmm.

2:55:12 Trinidad, Amsterdam, the Netherlands on the 3rd of August, Edmonds, Washington, Norwich, Vermont, Norwood, Massachusetts, Houston, Texas, Garden City, Idaho on the 10th, Keyport, New Jersey on the 11th, Keene, New Hampshire on the 11th, Albany, California. That's another Get John Out of the House meetup, August 17th. And we're into September, Goleta, California and Tucson, Arizona. Many more to come, many more to be found. You can even start one yourself if you can't find one near you, the No Agenda Meetups. Noagendameetups.com. Always a party. Yes indeed it's like a party and guess what you're going to win the ISO today because today I have zero ISOs Okay, I win then yes. Thank you. Which one do you win with oh? Yeah, let's hear him. Yeah, let's start with I got two versions of thanks I got one and two start with one. Thanks so much for being here

2:55:12 Trinidad, Amsterdam, the Netherlands on the 3rd of August, Edmonds, Washington, Norwich, Vermont, Norwood, Massachusetts, Houston, Texas, Garden City, Idaho on the 10th, Keyport, New Jersey on the 11th, Keene, New Hampshire on the 11th, Albany, California. That's another Get John Out of the House meetup, August 17th. And we're into September, Goleta, California and Tucson, Arizona. Many more to come, many more to be found. You can even start one yourself if you can't find one near you, the No Agenda Meetups. Noagendameetups.com. Always a party. Yes indeed it's like a party and guess what you're going to win the ISO today because today I have zero ISOs Okay, I win then yes. Thank you. Which one do you win with oh? Yeah, let's hear him. Yeah, let's start with I got two versions of thanks I got one and two start with one. Thanks so much for being here

2:56:26 Okay, the two yeah, thanks for having me glad we're on okay, okay, well I think and then we have a sent in by a producer the what Clip what the hell was that? Yeah? I got that one, too. I Discarded it. I'm like well. That's family guy. I mean. I'm not gonna use that I'm not gonna insult you But you did it anyway. Well, I used it instead. Thanks so much for being here. I'm gonna use that one if you don't mind. I think that's the best one. Alright everybody, this may be the last time, but that's all on you!

2:57:05 I hope it's not the last time. I hope you're not thwarted by these people who just say nasty things. I mean, get used to it. You're a celebrity, you're a superstar. That's what happens. I decided to go with the most obscure thing I can come up with today. Okay. And that is an antiseptic. that would get people talking because if they saw it, it's always tends to be, the label tends to be in Russian. And it's a product, you can look this up on Wikipedia so you can find out the details about it. It's actually a dye called Brilliant Green. It's used in Ukraine and Russia for anything that happens on your skin. It kills all gram-negative bacteria.

2:57:56 It prevents the flesh-eating bacteria, it kills staph, it does all this stuff. The drawback is... Hold on, hold on, hold on. It kills staph infection? Yeah. Because normally you have to be on like antibiotics for a month and you can't even go out in the sun. You dump this stuff on it, you believe me. The guy, this came, the original tip comes from my friend, well I'm not my friend, well I do know him. David Duncan who was, lived in Ukraine for a couple of years and talked about he got his hand got impaled and the doctor said just put the green stuff, the green goo they call it there. What's it called? What's the product name again? Brilliant Green. Soylent Green? Brilliant Green. Brilliant Green. And it's a dye. Wow.

2:58:48 And what, what, this is a dye, yeah. And so it's used by everybody and it heals everything that the skin situation. So it's like Windex for white people. Well, the drawback is it's a green dye and it leaves, it takes three or four days before it rubs off, but it's very effective. Wow. If you can get it, you're gonna have to talk to your Russian friends to find it because it's so cheap to make that the pharmaceutical companies won't even touch it because they can't, there's no profit in it. I can hear Sir Gene whipping up a website already. Sir Gene knows about this, I guarantee it. Once again, you ask him, just out of the blue, yeah, everybody uses that stuff. What's it called again?

2:59:32 Brilliant green brilliant green it also has a slang term is a link a zel e n k a Consoling ca Wow well, that's a good tip. I hope you keep it up I'm sure you get lots of you know I need a bunch of green tip of the day. Thanks for listening Y'all come back now you hear Please do come back y'all for another tip of the day. Although I agree that ever since we stopped doing the good news segment, the world has just gone downhill. Scary. So scary, so scary. All right, you're up to speed and you're spun down. That's the way we like to see you. Everybody take care.

3:00:17 We'll be learning lots more about Joe quitting and then we'll have we got a nice three days before well four days I guess Monday Tuesday about three days until the next show. I'm looking forward to it Life is about to get super interesting as if it wasn't already End of show mixes sir Chris Wilson D's laughs and Jesse Coy Nelson remember everybody. It's not a glitch propagate that formula Up next on noagendastream.com, trollroom.io and your modern podcast app, unrelenting episode 122, Crowdstrike Chaos. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, Fredericksburg, Texas, FEMA region number six in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley,

3:01:04 Where I remain. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll see you here on Thursday. Remember us at noagendadonations.com, dvorak.org, slash N-A. Until then, adios mofos, or hooey hooey! And such! Blame it on the glitch. And I did this work in, you know, ten minutes. It wasn't that hard to find. Blame it on the glitch. Yeah, well, reporters don't care. This kind of data... Okay, here's a song idea for something. No, no, no, no. I was gonna keep going with... Well, I'm not gonna interrupt you. I'm just gonna tell the song idea. Find this song, it's Michael Jackson. Blame it on the boogie to blame it on the glitch. Yeah, but you can't fit that in there. I think it could be done. It could be blaming on the buggy.

3:01:45 No, that just sounds too similar. You have to rewrite some lyrics to get the rhymes right. I can hear Sir Chris popping another beer as we speak. Don't blame it on the fast card. Don't blame it on the bootload. Or thermal overload. Blame it on the glitch. Don't blame it on the fast card. Don't blame it on the bootload. Or thermal overload. Blame it on the glitch. The guy's becoming alcoholic since he's been doing stuff for this show. Hey man, I'm drunk, don't worry about me.

3:02:41 We don't need a Costco card, local plague is coming back. Peer reviewed paper, buy these poop heads and think tech's not hard to combat. Fact checking that journalists have been captured in this aspect. Yo, what's up with that? Conspiring to silence the scientists, a climate denier but call them denialists. Do you believe with all your heart? Are you a buyer and are you buying this? Settle consensus science, Bill Nye is a liar or a liarist. Credentials and expertise The information dam is cracking on me Come on, please! Ease! Poles and centralize similar to Swiss cheese Poles and centralize similar to Swiss cheese AI is doing work up in the sky Generative AGI overload the nation grid and upgrade the power supply Adzy googles greenhouse gas emissions Pay pooty judges making so many bonehead decisions 500,000 charging stations, we got eight Now I know someone who wanted to make America great

3:03:34 Data reporting centers need to cool down with AC. Renewable, what's the benefit of this energy? That's the point. That's where we're going. You don't need to have the biggest numbers. You don't need to be the top of the leaderboard or the ranker. It's just not necessary in this new model. You're a mean one. Mr. Glitch. Glitch, glitch, glitch, glitch, glitch, glitch, glitch. Frustrated Target customer is stuck in long lines when a computer glitch caused problems at checkout. Taxpayers who waited till the last day to pay Uncle Sam may have suffered some digital distress Tuesday as the US Internal Revenue Service's computers were hit with a glitch ahead of the midnight tax deadline. Did you guys get affected by this? I really want to know how many people got affected by the Facebook glitch in the past week.

3:04:25 You're a mean one, Mr. Glitch. Glitch, glitch, glitch, glitch, glitch, glitch, glitch. A technical glitch that caused chaos at London airports on Friday has now been fixed and air traffic control systems are returning to normal. They were deployed longer than any other combat unit in Iraq and now they're fighting the Pentagon over benefits. Their deployment orders were written for 729 days. That happens to be one day short of the 730 days needed to qualify for benefits under the GI Bill. Well, tonight the Army is telling NBC News they predict this glitch will be fixed and the Guardsmen will be eligible for those benefits.

3:05:07 But I think the big glitch, the major glitch, the whopper is going to supersede everything you said and that is the automated update of Windows. Windows. Yeah, that brings down everything. Thanks so much for being here.