30 Taliban Killed

00:01 somebody's gonna get killed. Adam Curry, John C. Devorah It is January 3rd 2010 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 162 This is no agenda and Happy New Year Gitmo Nation welcome to the new Ice Age coming to you live from the Minimum Security Containment Cell Crackpot Command Center still located in Gitmo Nation West San Francisco California In The Morning I'm Adam Curry. And it's bright and sunny here in Northern Silicon Valley, and I'm sunny too! I'm John C. DuBois. In the morning to you, John. Happy New Year! In the morning to you too. Hold on one sec... My children it's a Sunday morning service! Tell us just your no agenda! Can I get some Adam Curry? Can I get a little John Ciccarone? Lord help us all! Yeah, lord help us all! I like that one. Again its a little long But this is good for an opening jingle kind of to get everyone in the mood for early service

01:07 So I guess what is going on is mostly this crotch bomber guy. You want to dive right into that? How about Happy New Year, I wish you all the best for 2010 my friend it's been great! It's just another day and weekend Where did you celebrate? What did you do? Anything fun? Yeah, okay. So hey man! How was your New Year? Well let me tell you what happened a funny thing happened over New Years. You want to hear it? No... yeah! So we went up to Bodega Bay. Are you familiar? Yes it's a little drive-up this is where I can see from the house. Yeah along with Russia so we drove out to Bodega Bay and we had this great place were staying at for couple days

02:00 But it was really shitty weather, so the whole idea of the blue moon beach walk and you know it was raining. It was cloudy there was no moon to be seen. It was crap up there how is that? Was it nice down near you? Gorgeous! Typical. Not only that but we get to see some fireworks from San Francisco had And there was just enough of a breeze. Generally speaking, in San Francisco when they have fireworks it's either fog and the fireworks go into the fog and you always see is a flash of light or it's nice out but there's no wind so that thing becomes like a big massive cloud of smoke

02:37 And so every time, you know that becomes a mess. But this was actually cleared it was really pretty and they had a couple new lot of smiley faces and there's another bomb they've been shooting called...that looks like a cube when it blows up It just is like a cube. Oh, it's a new type of pyrotechnic Yeah So we're out there and of course, you know, it's like it's like there's nothing going on Now, not that we expected anything super to be going on but because the weather was crap there was really nothing going on. And so like oh man... So you know we go into the lobby and there's this group of English people and uh so it's a... Brits? Yeah Brits but it's the grandma and grandpa who are probably right near their 70s but you know really proper and they're and grandma is already hammered and they got their kids. Their kids live

03:30 live nearby in Petaluma and her other kids from Australia were in. So it was probably like with some grandchildren, it was probably about 10 or 11 people and they had of course as proper Brits do they had a big cooler full of booze literally like a Coleman cooler with champagne and Baileys and beer, you name it. And they had party hats and noisemakers and what they call crackers that explode with confetti. So we actually wound up celebrating with them right there in the lobby. It was great! We trashed the entire lobby but the funniest thing was... so after midnight... Let me guess

04:19 It was the Queen. No, no so these people have no idea who they are and like oh this is kind of interesting to celebrate with them and And when these guys says so uh... So what do you do? I said media company whatever ah You probably know my best friend Sounds good already he says my best friend Leo Leo yeah The guy the guy lives in Petaluma. Oh, yeah, he lives in Petaluma everybody in Petaluma knows each other It's like Leo is this is the best Leo was awesome I was like happy new year That's that's cool very happy for you so what was the guys name? No idea

05:06 I don't remember the guy's name. He was in real estate, he looked unhappy. I'm sure he wasn't even in real estate But it was beautiful up there the next day After New Year's they got really good all right forget about it Joe It sounds like you had a great time now we did it was alright? It was weird You know people you rent a car yet to rent a card and you don't have no I still have the car from the from the Yosemite trip I think it by the month or the week or a weekly rental with the enterprise. You didn't take it back? No, no got a weekly rental with Enterprise was pretty good deals like 400 bucks for the week isn't you know is perfect so what was the

05:50 What is the car what kind of car is it? Oh, it's a heat enterprise by the way. I love Enterprise the one on Folsom Street They're awesome now. I don't like him Why don't you like if they did I need to get cars or when I had that running from them twice? I think and one time they stiffed me on some something and then the other one I was sitting there taking the car back in they were or somebody else had their car being inspected to them. They were looking for little dings and I mean, it was unbelievable. It's like an onerous company. I don't like him. Well the one in Folsom is exactly the opposite of everything you're saying there so... It was a great deal! Like a Tahoe for 400 bucks. A Tahoe? A big giant gas guzzler?! How do you even get that thing up in the parking spot!?

06:34 Well, as long as you're not parked there it's not much of a problem John. If its not you or Molly who is parked there... I mean God! The whole new media industry in San Francisco has my garage door code and is using my parking spot. The other day Molly Wood was here she had her car here for two days!! Where was Molly? Now that's a question. I am not at liberty to disclose that information Hmm, but it was here for two days. I was like you know that's taking advantage of it now my friends can't even Park in the spot be all be over soon Why are you gonna get to take the Tahoe back? Well? No didn't drive a car that big your British What are you talking about? I'm American I'm perfectly capable of driving a car like that and by the way what a great deal huh yeah, I guess It's right what's 400 bucks a week plus what $500 in gasoline

07:33 Well, yeah the gap no I only filled it up twice so you know only $5,000 bucks 100 bucks and Screw you You're a horrible man. So what do you see on the news this week? I mean nothing's happened I mean since Thursday just the same crap well a couple of things A lot of people started sending me articles about the Codex Alimentarius. Yes, I saw those emails. Yeah which now...I've been talking about this for pretty much going on two years This is the food law which is now actual law in the United States of Europe and Of course this is a united nations initiative so this is very much like global warming or climate change So there's you know all kinds of panels and

08:20 So there were two stories that were sent in and you know, we're gonna be hearing a lot more about this I just just to whet your appetite. This was this is from the Wisconsin AG connection Wisconsin AG connection Members of the state Senate Committee on agriculture and higher education will soon be looking at several bills that are beginning to move through The legislative process And so they've got all these different things about which relate to people who can food at home You're gonna forget that. You can't canned food at home? The sale of home canned food products, that will be the first item of the agenda so you can canned food at home but you just won't be able to sell it Well I mean who sells their own canned food anyway? Lots of people in Wisconsin apparently Oh And then

09:13 people who render dead animals to produce grease or other non-food products. Essentially, what the Codex Alimentarius is doing is outlawing all different kinds of food and food products and they have to... For instance, the standards for honey must be consistent with standard for honey under the Codex Alimentarius of the Food and Agricultural Organization of the United Nations in the World Health Organization So, it comes in slowly. It's on honey first and before you know it... What are we going to put up? What is the honey thing? Okay lawmakers are proposing... People put corn syrup they do all kinds of stuff because there isn't enough honey to go around finding good honey as an art Well here it is lawmakers are proposing that DATCP no idea what that is be required to promulgate

10:09 which kind of reproduce and get bigger. Oh, like government? Promulgate rules that establish standards for products sold as honey and standards for the testing by private laboratories of samples submitted by persons who wish to sell honey produced in the state of Wisconsin as certified honey It's beyond those... beside the point it's all just kinda starting here milk and milk products This is from the USDA. They're going to go out of their way to outlaw raw milk done by the actual clean dairy farmers. Yeah, well you can follow it all as the USDA announced a public meeting to provide information and receive comments on agenda items and draft US positions that will be discussed at the ninth session of the Codex Committee on Milk & Milk Products It's all starting!

11:04 Codex was created in 1963 by two United Nations organizations, Food and Agriculture Organization and the World Health Organization. Does that not tell you enough when the WHO is involved? Yeah the WHO is... there's something wrong with them! So you can take a look at those links at your leisure at noagendershow.com So, you know that was kind of like oh well You know kind of expected that to happen There's still a lot about the crotch bomber what I did Kind of stumble into and I was only basically reading the newspapers over the past couple day whatever it was the chronicle there was delivered to the hotel room and

11:48 Really looking at the two main Gitmo Nation stories, one is about Blackwater. The judge of course dismissed Blackwater from any wrongdoing in the killing of 17 Iraqis in 2007 and Iraq has gone nuts! And so all these Iraqis or family members are now bringing civil suits against Blackwater and they're really pissed off about it as is whoever the Iraqi government is and whatever they are doing. They apparently are also angry, um...and uh..the other story was- I'm gonna try to pull these two together About this eight kids that allegedly were killed by CIA agents in Afghanistan

12:36 Did you read about this at all? No, not at all. So this was apparently a couple of weeks or a couple months ago and of course the story is really very sketchy but the Afghanis in this town claiming that CIA agents actually pulled teenagers out of their beds dragged them out and executed them in the street And this would, and right next to it of course is the story about the eight CIA agents who were blown to smithereens in their highly secure compound. Which now as it turns out was actually by some accounts a CIA informant

13:17 Yeah, the one guy who was a paid informant. Yeah double-crossed them yeah so you know there's a Tit for tat I don't believe that entirely but that's the way it's being presented in mainstream media So yeah this stuff is just like huh? It was something funny though that have been following and at first I was like This is this is how it actually like oh, this is bullcrap Yeah, you're rubbing off on me. Yay! But if you read through the reports every single time NATO or the forces nail some Taliban it's always 30 have you noticed this? I've noticed yeah and not until now but now that you mention it I think maybe have seen it well so I have a and this is from security crank which I thought you should probably should read this from time to

14:14 So going back to 2000, here's it. How far back does this go? Well just in the past year December 7th up to 30 suspected militants were killed in a NATO air strike on a Taliban hideout and now from The Chronicle on December 4th air strikes in two areas of the Mah-Mohamand border region killed thirty suspected militants November 4th the military said the troops have killed 30 more militants August 31st at least 30 bodies of suspected Taliban fighters were recovered name. It's the same 30 days keep driving I don't think so and it's all different publications of Calgary Times on July 4th The attack included attempted suicide truck bombing of the base on these Iraq district of the southeastern

15:07 Patitka province, as many as 30 Taliban insurgents might have been killed. This is the ministry of truth essentially what is happening here and they just take this number thirty because I guess it sounds good and even in Yemen February 3rd, Saleh urged the leaders not to give refuge to militants and help the states fight against Al-Qaeda by turning them in. A security official told Reuters authorities had detained 30 suspected militants in a renewed campaign. Wow! That's an incredible find It's all thirty That doesn't... well that makes no sense! No it doesn't. So the title of this article is... Who are they kidding with this nonsense? The title of the articles winning the war 30 Taliban at a time, great every single article we should start paying attention to this it always seems to be thirty. It's an ode of some sort

16:04 It's code. It's coded, it's a coded message that when they use the word 30 that means there is something in that message that is some...it's like an order or who knows what? No I think its just you know they're just spouting some kind of BS. What are you telling us? Its code! It's a coded message Speaking of coded message So this movie Avatar has now done 1 billion dollars. Yeah, well I'm glad that Cameron gets another shot at it because if this movie would have flopped... But John, I really worry about this and I said it kind of flippantly on the last show

16:42 But this whole thing with flickering images and polarized glasses, I think this is a mind control thing. And the first thing you're programmed to do is make your friends go see this. Do you feel any different after seeing the movie? No, I don't Adam! Why do you ask?! This movie came out of nowhere! Was there like a pre-hype that I missed somehow? I mean like years of hype, years and years? But it was being heavily promoted for about two weeks on TV. On talk shows Yeah well for a couple weeks but to do a billion dollars in two weeks It definitely had the word-of-mouth thing going on because people...I mean everybody now Of course we panned the movie i think were the only people in the world who

17:31 seen it nor do I intend to because i don't think this 3D stuff is good for your head. I'm telling you, this is programming. All I know is this...I said I was gonna go see the movie uh... IMAX 3d version and I got tweets and I've gotten Skype IM's, I got Leo send me a note Everybody was like, you're going to love it. See exactly this is what I'm talking about There's something about this. I don't trust its subliminal messages there stuff going on here But I haven't you know, if I recommend having the subliminal message would be to recommend the movie I mean cuz that's how you get out of debt right? Okay, you know

18:13 So the subliminal message, tell your friends to go see the movie. It's a possibility that exists but all I know is that the entire family which saw the movie were all complaining about it as being of a hokey shallow bogus storyline cartoon characters that weren't very interesting and a couple mistakes we thought about this the other day where the guys are different heights it seems Meanwhile, everybody else is going on and on. And again I reiterate what I said last show which is Tom Hartman the left wing commentator

18:53 Says this is probably the greatest movie I've ever seen in my life Left-wingers Leo's left of center and other people that are liberals tended to like this movie more than anybody. Yeah, I think they're more susceptible to the polarized Subliminal messages well if you think it's the greatest movie ever saw on your life So here's the joke of it we're watching One of these guys go on about this movie and then we turn we flip around the channel We found wall e which is that cute movie with the little robot. Oh yeah! And realize that WALL-E... It's the same movie? No, it's not the same movie it has actually more depth. It was like you know even though we're all looking at true cartoon characters The WALL-E movie is actually

19:42 A ten time better, it's much... well it was successful too but it was actually a much better movie and its the same kind of dystopia situation in the rest of it. But it's funnier that for damn sure! Well there is something going on with this and just when I saw this come over the wire this morning I was like you know what? This is weird! This is really weird Of all the movies that have come out And yeah of course there were couple weeks of massive hype but what up with that dog?! This is weird. One billion dollars in receipts, that's 350 million dollars in the US alone! In two weeks time! You know it's like... Either that or the fluoride and the lithium in the water has really kicked in because It just makes no sense. It just makes no sense. This is record shattering, Is it not?

20:32 Yeah, the thing is going is definitely setting the world on fire and it's and and you're you know if you don't go see It I will admit even though. I've been programmed to recommend it You're not missing anything I Will say that on a spanker vision in the hotel? I saw men who stare at goats with George Clooney I've wanted to see that it's funny because it's not even really a movie. It's it's a true story you know and it's the account of Just spoil it for you right away just so you know what's going on yeah, go for it Okay We should make it a pact on this show if your listen to no agenda anybody we're gonna spoil You know we don't save the ending just okay

21:28 cares. Alright, good! I think that's a great pact so yeah it's long and the short of it is this it is the story of a journalist who stumbles upon this fantastic story of these PsyOps super warrior soldiers who were trained apparently in psychological warfare and they could do things such as stop a goat's heart just by staring at them And it was you know, it's kind of like a sidetrack to the CIA MK ultra project but You know so the guy Essentially he writes this incredible story about everything that happened to him and you're there cloud busting these get George Clooney is busting up clouds over in which we and you and I Know as absolutely possible with orgone energy. Yeah, and I've done it come on you can do it too everyone can do that if you just focus a little bit and

22:24 And one of the things that he comes across is, in Iraq actually 2003 which is funny because I was in Iraq and at very same period. Is they've locked up enemy combatants and were playing Barney for them 24 hours a day the Barney song so the end to this story which starts off with you know this story's more true than you'll ever believe The guy writes up the entire story, sends it off to all the newspapers and television stations. And the only part that they actually use is the Barney story which you'll recall probably right? You recall there was a report on that? No I don't remember that but... Yeah we were subjecting military enemy combatants listening to Barney 24 hours a day in their cell with strobing lights But its'a good story about the ninja warrior no wait the Jedi warriors

23:20 of the US armed forces. Would was named Barnett Barrett can't remember his name last name of the guy, but he you know claimed to be a CIA assassin There you go I love Clooney No, I mean. He's unbelievable. He's spot-on so Let's see Back to the well what else do we have anything else anymore? I got tons of interesting little by the way my talking about their Iraq situation kind of mentioned the

24:07 My son noticed something, he corresponds with people. He says he knows a couple of Marines that are in Iraq and then did some research and he's got a friend at West Point and he says the West Point sometime ago stopped teaching strategies and tactics warfare tactics and started teaching and pushing everyone toward logistics army and it's good to go into one of his marine friends whose bitching and moaning that he is not out there fighting, he sees these stringing ethernet cable as his job. All the fighting has been turned over to Blackwater! And all that the Army and Air Force and Navy Marines do is the logistics making sure these guys get their you know everything

24:52 Yeah, they've actually switched it around. Whereas the Z as they're now known or Blackwaters of the world where they actually used to do all the logistics now They're doing the actual fighting because those guys are snorting coke with dewormer in it Well and the other thing is apparently when a blackwater guy gets killed It doesn't show up as a casualty of an army guy nor does it show up as an actual troop in the theater Think about that. I mean, we're talking about sending 30,000 or 40,000 troops over to Afghanistan you know they're just there for logistics there's probably 200,000 consultants who are working it It's a total accounting trick Well not only that but obviously we've outsourced the war We don't go to war anymore You just gotta manage it Yeah And do you think there are some companies profiting from it outside of the obvious? Please

25:47 It's a scam. It is a scam, yeah war is a racket someone important once said that was Sam I was But was it Butler or the guy who was butler he's against some smedley smedly butler He's the guy who broke up they plot to To dethrone Roosevelt and he wrote a book called War as a racket another book We've got to read yeah we have to get ahold of that book and read it oh Here's something that didn't quite make it for last years list. Of course we had man of the year, helicopter Ben Bernanke We had CIO of the Year Vivek Kundra It couldn't get any better although it was just a little bit too late

26:36 In Forbes Magazine, company of the year. Oh yeah! Unbelievable How did this happen? Dare you take a little guess there John could it be... Monsanto And they've got this picture of I guess The CEO and he's sitting there with some candy corn You know what i'm just gonna call it candy corn and the guy doesn't look healthy He just looks ill It really doesn't look good at all And it's just this big masturbatory story about how fantastic they are. Forget all their $44 billion market cap value and their 7.3 billion dollars of seeds and seed genes which they sold in 2009

27:28 It's just like, oh these guys are great. They're awesome and uh was it the planet versus months? The mark once again yeah the Planet Versus Monsanto is the title of the article under company of the year I'm sure y'all can't wait to read it in the show notes at noagendashow.com. It's just unbelievable! I mean it doesn't matter what we say or what we do It's like we can bitch and moan all we want about Bernanke, about Monsanto, about Vivek Kundra. We've uncovered quite a bit which wasn't actually our uncovering were just kind of passing on the news. Yeah now we're consolidating

28:06 the news that's out there and then deconstructing much of it which is obviously slanted. That's all, anyone can do it. The great thing is that we do have a certain effect I want to read a letter from... It just showed up in the mail. And now a long distance dedication John C. Dvorak brings it to you Dear John and Adam. Do the voice, man! Dear John and Adam. I'm a 17 year old listener from Saginaw Michigan. Oops paper's stuck. Is that anywhere near Detroit? Saginaw? No i think it's near Dearborn. I'm not sure...I remember seeing it on a map but can't say where first off I'd like to say my mom used to work for our local PBS station at Delta College WDQ

28:53 WDCQ19 in Delta College. I've been to many upon many of their pledge drives one thing i would always remember telling my mom is that she never sounds the same on tv as she did in real life our family eventually called her it her TV voice which is when which is what you just did yeah which is when she went on to ask people for money to support quality public broadcasting the clips you played of how time the phone ringing is in the background reminded me of how shots and people answering their phones were sometimes previously recorded. When there was a bad rush of ringing or sometimes the entire pledge drive was pre-recorded so they didn't have to come to work after hours around the weekend. Perfect!

29:38 Secondly, I'm in an online high school sociology class. I'm pretty sure you're both familiar with online classes but blah blah blah they're an alternative if you are a fast learner or dumb." Okay... I've been listening to Noah Jenner before I started taking Sociology Online this semester and a lot of things my teacher in our textbook discussions has me in outrage! It seems as though they are trying either desensitize or at least acquaint students with ideas Now, so they are more familiar and more accepting of them later. My example right now is a population control presented in chapter 16 of my textbook. And he's got a PDF of it. Oh cool! Send that to me. I want to put that in the show notes. Okay? It is presented to me as a necessary way to ensure that our world doesn't get overcrowded with people

30:20 but the kicker here is that our teacher opened up a discussion board posting essentially a form with the topic I wonder if the USA will ever need to pass a law to limit the number of children a couple can have as they've done in China. i think that teachers have opened the door to teaching population control, it's sensible thing for the entire world to do because let's face it we all live in this world and don't want too many people here with us using the knowledge obtained in the morning my teachers told me that I am radical and very opinionated student Oh Jesus! Give yourself a pat on the back for knowing you've saved another child from media distractions and government plots to control the population. Yes! In the morning... A big in in the morning to ya, what's his name? That's a good question I'll dig up his name from the uh How about our executive producer for this program Joe, Joe hey Joe I don't know where that came from Hey Joe, hey Josie Dvorak

31:12 Who's our executive producer for this episode today's executive producer Adam? Yes is Kevin Liang, L-I-A-N-G from Richmond British Columbia. Okay! Came up with $250 and Kevin is our executive producer and he can use this on his bio On his resume also no associate executive producers for this week? No just him He's the one It's a fine start to the new year Kevin Liang thank you very much indeed put it on your resume we'll vouch for ya You can even add out email addresses if you will And of course they'l be in show notes For episode 162 of no agenda at no agenda show calm and just clip this little bit out in fact Clip it out. That is an mp3 file course. It's probably pronounced laying Yeah, oh yeah that does you know people should send a pronunciation guide with their donations Especially for us so we don't get it wrong Okay, let me go find the the trials the young 17 year old youngsters name

32:18 Anyway, so what else do we got going on? Well I search. Well, I can take us over to Gitmo Nation East to Ireland for a moment as 2010 is a brand new year for them and of course brand-new law is always happening in the New Year. Oh it's Brian...I'm sorry Brian Clark is the youngster. We've saved him, saved yet another child from destruction. Yeah from him and who knows? Okay, go on. Sorry as of January 1st 2010 the new Irish blasphemy law becomes operational what yes blasphemy is now a crime punishable by 25 thousand euros which is about a million dollars The new law defines blasphemy as publishing or uttering

33:05 matter that is grossly abusive or insulting in relation to matters held sacred by any religion, thereby intentionally causing outrage amongst a substantial number of adherents of that religion with some defenses permitted. So that means the life of Brian is now banned in Ireland? I guess so! This is crazy... this is crazy That is crazy. What century are the Irish living in? And who are they appealing to with this law? Oh, yeah duh! Yeah I can tell you exactly who they're appealing to that would be uh...the Muslims You mean those same kind of Muslims that tried to kill that guy in Denmark just the other day? Yeah so they say right he attempted to get into the cartoonist's house and shoot him? Yeah and I guess the cartoonists had a safe room

34:04 So, now the problem of course is that with this happening in Ireland which was you know is now a part of the United States of Europe I can only presume that this will either be outlawed by the Starfleet command in Brussels or it will be made into a general law across the entire states. Oh, it's going to be made into a general law. You can count on that I mean let's face it for one thing Brussels is uh...I mean Belgium is being taken over by Muslims as it is Yeah So they're gonna you know institute this and then everything every time anyone looks cross-eyed It's gonna be blasphemy so there you go so back to this uh... Cross bomber

34:54 Okay, so I've been looking at everything this last few days since the last show and i'm gonna probably continue to do this because I run into more and more ever since you you know Since you're kind of pushing the war between obama And the CIA yeah which I do have a couple of things to talk about but yeah And I've been reading more and more about it because it's like out in the open and there's CIA XCIA people writing articles and columns and op-eds all over you read that Our presidents afraid of the CIA. Did you read that article? Probably, that's a ray McGovern wrote this no, I didn't read that one. Okay, where'd that appear on consortium news.com Well tell us about it

35:36 well he so he'd be goes in this real long it's a good article and of course he knows a lot because he uh... was it was in the cia for twenty seven years served under nine cia directors and all four of cias main directorates including operations and he's the co-founder of veteran intelligence professionals for sanity acronym vips or vip use and um... I'll just give you the opening. So he really takes this, opening paragraph in the past I've alluded to Panetta and the seven dwarfs now this of course is referring to CIA director Leon Panetta and seven of his moral dwarf predecessors the one who sent President Obama a letter on September 18th asking him to reverse Attorney General Holder's August 24 decision to reopen the criminal investigation of CIA interrogations

36:32 And so he uses that to take it all the way through to CIA essentially at least being involved in the assassination of JFK. And he says, you know, it's like literally that after who was it Truman? Yeah Truman didn't he start the CIA wasn't he? Well they had a military OSS or whatever it was and then they tranced slowly I think it probably Dulles, Allen Dulles. Oh yeah, the Dulles brothers of course and if you have not read Legacy of Ashes please do it's been corroborated by my contacts as being absolutely true so this all goes back to the Bay of Pigs etc but he is really saying every single president has just been afraid of the CIA and now with Obama the guy is like its laughable! It's laughable

37:23 how afraid he is. So yeah, so that's a good article. And then they have the Salafis and all these other characters showing up you know the fact that his security is breached time and time again Yeah including just recently in Hawaii when the CIA plane breached the airspace and he was rushed away into safety under the guise of something... Right! You also see a lot of candid photos of him on the Hawaii trip there's one that's floating around the European press of him licking a Hawaiian ice cream. Yeah, well it's not an ice cream they actually have the shaved ice there. Quite interesting anyway then he is chewing on that and I mean the camera is essentially when you take a picture of something If you can take a picture? You've got a laser scope yeah you've got direct line-of-fire And thats kind of idea so theres all these pictures of him doing this and that I mean they had pictures of memories running on the beach and all these other things

38:19 So anyway, so I figure that there's... Okay let's assume that this war between Obama and the CIA is actually taking place. Let's re-look at... And so Obama of course isn't helping matters much because he's trying to isolate them but has no control So one of our listeners said that maybe this crotch bomber thing was a... because there's two pieces of discrepant information that is floating around. Alex Jones is pushing it the most, but the guy who was saying and I guess there are other people who have corroborated there was a indian man who uh... who was at check-in and is reported to be his CIA handler got him on the plane because he didn't have a passport right now we know from Ghana accounts we not only know he had a passport

39:11 But they have the passport number in these articles out of Africa. The Africans are saying this is bullshit, he had a passport! And it went through their IQQS system whatever it was we talked about on the last show which checks with the database right there from the boarding pass scan if there's a passport number that corresponds with the ticket and all that was set Right, but maybe there's a little switcheroo that took place here. In other words... and by the way at the end of the encounter apparently this supposed bomb sniffing dogs came in and found a bomb on the plane and another Indian guy, this guy in his 30s was arrested and taken out of the airport. We haven't heard anything about him!

39:55 And we never heard anything more about that deal. He's, I mean there was a lot of speculation on what that might be all about but let's take a look at it from the perspective of who got hurt by this incident? The CIA did! Yeah because Obama came out and basically said systemic failure in the intelligence community he thinly veiled the fact that the CIA had failed so Let's assume that this thing was to get the CIA and there is a guy, an Indian guy who is not a CIA guy at all. And let us start looking from the perspective that Obama has decided to do... If you want to look at something go look at Indian American

40:37 in the Obama administration. Just Google how many Indians, besides our friend Vivek Kundra and Chopra who neither one of them have either the skills or the creds to be in those jobs but start looking around and you'll find a no-ordinate number of Indians in the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton before she became Secretary of State and before she even ran for President was extremely tight with the Indians look up Hillary Clinton Tata and some of these other groups that were outsourcing. She actually has a piece of one of them, that was an outsourcing operation, and she's partly responsible for all our jobs going to India. There is this Indian connection The Indians have a number of intelligence agencies, and the most important one is called RAW Research & Analysis They're the covert outside-the country version of CIA

41:33 And there's all kinds of very strange stories about raw and is it possible that Hillary set up and somebody? Set this up. Maybe Obama had nothing to do with it starting to use the Indian CIA To do our bidding instead in other words, we're outsourcing our own intelligence to India Wow You know that would make a lot of sense certainly if you see what's happening in Pakistan which without a doubt as you know arch enemy of India And right, we're being slowly taken. By the way traditionally India has never been our friend I mean they speak English and they do this but they've always been allied with Russia Now we should never forget that and Pakistanis we always allied with them because of anything other than the fact that it was an interesting place to be There's a lot of talk now on the Indian press you start reading

42:23 And the Pakistani press in particular, which is always slamming them about how the Indians are like, you know just as soon they might even want to go to war with China. So anyway, the Chinese are left out on the ledge here and the CIA seems to be cut short. And the other thing that came up in my research is that apparently the Indian Raw, their CIA is really seriously moving into Afghanistan to do our bidding and so now we have this death of these CIA guys whether it has anything to with a make good on them killing some kids which I doubt

43:00 It could be the Indian CIA killing our guys and taking over the job that our CIA apparently, you know I mean I can see the Indians are good at selling stuff. We can do this job as well as anybody You know and you can trust us and we'll marginalize the CIA help you marginalize to CIA here's a good idea And anyway, so they use this. So the guy at the counter is an Indian and if he's with Raw he could go back you know to have a meeting and flash some credentials say we gotta get this guy on the plane and the reason you want to get him on the plane without his passport even though he has one and maybe that would be number on the ticket is different it goes through the system and it doesn't any red flag doesn't appear and so then he goes all the way over to Detroit in a civil assistance failed

43:46 And yeah, it failed because the guy never actually showed his passport. It's possible that if he did show his passport the system wouldn't have failed and they would've been stopped from the flight. Meanwhile, the CIA gets blamed for all this even though there is a lot of screwiness going on I think they're being set up. But why... my understanding and what i've always supposed is that The Clintons are actually in bed with the CIA so why would you want to undermine them or put them on the sideline How does she just basically sit, you know as the Clinton... I don't know. It just feels weird to me." Well when she didn't get the job as president She may have turned on them and she may not have been really the one that was involved it May have been just Bill Yeah Bill in the bushes hmm

44:34 And this is her way of getting back at that too, possibly. I mean there's something screwy going on and the fact that there are two Indians involved in this story out of the blue one at the ticket counter and one afterwards who apparently had a bomb or something...and by the way you know if you were gonna set some crazy scheme up it would be nice to have a second device in the plane That really wasn't a bomb at all, but just a bunch of pieces that would lead you to believe... in other words evidence. Like throwing a matchbook down by a crime scene that's from Texas I'll tell you one thing though Just looking at President Obama and his appearance when of course he spoke before the public twice from Hawaii, man he looked ragged. He looked like he'd been up all night and there was all kinds of crap going on not just a guy whose vacation was interrupted for something potentially bad that happened. He looked really really tired and downtrodden almost did you notice that? Yeah and his hair is turning gray again

45:36 this may be number two obama we don't know for sure if it's the right guy well that is very interesting and raw is indeed a very interesting organization you don't read a lot about them at least not in western press but I like what your saying there yeah, and it would make sense because of our outsourcing thing and Hillary was the big outsourcing nut here it is. I found the article LA Times cited Clinton's free trade advocacy is hitting labor where it lives. She has a very cozy relationship with Indian outsourcing firm displacing American workers, is that the one you're talking about? Yeah that's one of them if this is a lot this has been going on for a number of years and nobody seems to care I mean the Democrats are supposed to be pro-labor yeah they're pro-labor in India It's not helping anybody here I mean the whole thing is ridiculous

46:36 But there's a you know what's gonna happen if this is actually taking place. Somebody's gonna get killed Someone important is gonna get offed yeah, no kidding So it's gonna seem to see who it is because it's got to be a symbolic person that's deeply into this Wow This is you mean on the on the US CIA side? Yeah, and the U.S., no there's going to be somebody in the US one of the government officials something weird is gonna happen to one of them that it's probably gonna Be this small plane crash or you know something like that But it's gonna happen It's gonna have to probably happen within the next few months

47:17 And it'll be a telling because it will be a message and you'll be able to deconstruct what the hell's going on by who is that got killed. Wow, I like that! I mean don't like it but I'd like the theory... You wanna take some names into pool? Well logical ones would be Hillary, she's traveling a lot by the way. She's really easy target because she's all over the damn place You know, and anything can happen overseas. Oh yeah! You could be in one of those air buses you never know what could happen to them the damn French machines. I'd be on a smaller plane probably private jet going from Shanghai to someplace else next thing you know they blew up. Okay... She's like at the top of the list ummm....I don't think Obama is actually on No no that's too risky They learned their lesson with that It would be disaster So they can do anything about him but something could happen to his wife or

48:11 Or there could be, because she's traveling like a maniac. She's almost as bad as Hillary. She's out and about constantly but she's usually in Air Force One wasting the taxpayers money so that's probably pretty secure How about Rom? You know Rom is expendable He's not doing anybody any good But if you want to send a message That would be a good one wouldn't it Yeah yeah That would be interesting. Well, anybody on the staff or you know... What kind of crackpots did you have for New Year's Eve festivities? And anyway we'll see I just don't know it could be any who knows and then we'll find out and I will say within the next two to three months one somebody important is going to meet a accidental death

48:59 Many Indian Americans on Obama transition team I have from November 21st 2008. Nick Rathode, Office of Intergovernmental Affairs. Aarti Rai, Agency Review Team on Science Technology Space Arts and Humanities Anjan Mukherjee a Managing Director at the private equity firm Blackstone He, see economics international trade. Parag Mehta. Dude there is a lot I mean you know that's pretty interesting. How do you notice that really? How dude it's like 20 here! Yeah no its an inordinate amount compared to Chinese Americans Japanese Americans Italians Irish

49:55 there's no comparison. I mean, they're blacks! It just like... They're really lots of Indians and so they get real tight with India we are now gonna make India our friend in fact the first state dinner that did that we had you know this is when they have this big occasion for a dignitary it was the premier of india and this was like a few weeks after they had the head of Israel over and didn't even want to meet with him So there's a lot of messaging going on here and cozying up to India is obviously high on the list of things that they want to do. And it's just gonna irk the Chinese, the CIA obviously if there's any hanky-panky going like I suspect and you know it's gonna be an interesting few months. Wow! Well yes indeed

50:43 Indeed this is fascinating. I'm just reading about all of these Indians in the Obama administration It's pretty amazing and we you know when you have guys like Vivek Kundra running the the cybers Running right now, so an Indian is now they head of DARPA So anyway, but like I said, I don't know maybe this is it just my imagination But it seems that Something screwy's going on and the thing is mainly because of this crazy crotch bomber Well, I have certainly over the past year learned to look at things that are happening. You know The minute you see something you got a look not over there Look

51:33 You really got to start looking and seeing what's being covered up. And we even talked about the Indian state dinner that there was actually no news at all about the fact that it was the Indian prime minister who was over for the state dinner, all of the news of course at the time was about the party crashers which was probably another message right there Yeah, I think the party...I still think. ...I've always thought the party crushers were a message in who uh... Like you know basically oh you're gonna have The head of raw because i guess the prime minister Inouye is of course the head of you know he stands above all that are You going to have the head of raw over? Okay let me just show you how close we can get To you Let me just show you that for a second Does that make sense it fits your theory doesn't It

52:16 Oh yeah, no it does. I think it's just a lie. You know, it's like just to show you that... It's like the thing they uh and there is something that the mafia does. They let you know that you're not safe. Like sending your letter with a couple of bullets That's a favorite. Yeah, he is not safe so they're just letting him know he's not safe if you know you think he is and the secret service is probably working overtime but I don't know...I'd be nervous wrecked that's why it probably looks haggard you know, who needs this? There's another article I'll put in the show notes at noagendashow.com from redstate.com and not that i frequent that often but I did stumble across this could this actually be the greatest and potentially the deadliest of Obama's screw-ups so far writes Eric Erickson And it's all about the Yemen crotch bomber and how Obama basically blamed CIA

53:24 And it's not a long article, but the assertions there are pretty much the same. We're not the only people seeing this at least we're not the only people in alternative media who have their brains screwed on who haven't been programmed by Avatar Yeah well its being interpreted in all kinds of different ways But I don't think anyone besides us has really nailed it. Well yeah we've been talking about this CIA war for awhile you know i think we do have a little bit of inside information more than what they did so if you start looking for the cia war with obama people to go out there and google this lots of articles about the fact that there's a good there's a uh... hissy fit going on between these two groups and um... well i don't know why you know i just don't get

54:13 I mean unless you, because our other supposition is that the CIA is running all the drugs in the world and unless Obama wanted to put a stop to that even though it's probably how they fund many of their operations. Well its how the bailout was funded The bank bail out The United Nations basically came out with a report and said that 350 billion dollars worth of drug money was seeped into the system to keep everyone afloat This isn't not a secret this is like the United Nations has been saying They're reporting it. Yeah, so I'm not sure what the... Well let's face it the CIA has a great racket going on. Well yeah well who is the guy that worked with the CIA best? Obviously G.W Bush. Yeah. Um, I mean the original because he was ahead of it for awhile. He ran it for quite awhile and uh so he's comfortable

55:07 And I would assume his son would probably, even though he's still seems like a big dummy. I give him a little more credit But you know, yeah, I guess he was comfortable and Clinton seemed to be fine with where things were going Well, Clinton was working for the Bushes Yeah Well no So if we go before that Kennedy was really No! He was against it! He was against the CIA and there ya'go You know what happened to him He had the, but he was also tied with a mob which didn't do him any good. And I don't know it's just an interesting perspective to take that we have this is essentially almost like a secret police but they're more of

55:52 I don't think they spend that much time diddling around with actual law enforcement. Yeah, I don't think they're doing much except...I don't know what they do to be honest. They go out and dig up information and you know the NSA probably does more information gathering than CIA does then they plant people here in there. Well, we'll stay on that. Definitely I do like the Indian angle and I'm gonna keep my eye out for that Hey what's happening in Canada John? Where is that? What's happening in Canada is we have an executive producer from Richmond BC

56:31 of course uh... besides the fact that uh... most of our oil comes from there um... what have the second largest reserve right after saudi arabia alberta are they a suspending their the government again i didn't notice this yeah definitely not going to be an american news we pay zero attention to what goes on in canada you know i think it should be as big deal hundred americans who the prime minister of canada was they couldn't name harper So Canadian Prime Minister's office officials said Parliament will be suspended until March 3rd. And that is a vacation for them? A big one, with the budget being introduced the next day! This is weird and I wish I knew more about it now actually I'm looking around Google News... No you have to read The Globe and Mail Is that it? Yeah

57:29 and the national. But the Globe and Mail is the... You know what irks me? I don't understand why we don't get, in a TV show, The Nationals from CBC. They play all this weird crap on Link and they play all this weird crap on free speech tv you know like Democracy Now which is like, you know pounding their left-wing drum like there's no tomorrow. And then all these other stations and cable and PBS we get the BBC news but what do we want the BBC news for? What about Canada they're right next to us and they do all kinds of stuff up there We don't get the CBC's national The National is one of the best newscasts

58:04 in the northern hemisphere. It's really good, except there is an hour long news show instead of a half hour, it's like the News Hour. It usually has boring features but their actual news coverage is quite good. Hey! Now this is interesting... Maybe we can run it on the stream? This is very interesting John One of the companies that provides millimeter wave scanning technologies Rapiscan Systems is an OSI systems company and who do you think is on the board? Of OSI? Yeah. Who? Actually, founder of the company Mr Deepak Chopra. Deepak Chopra?! Yes it's not the new age dude isn't that... No it's a niche

57:29 and the national. But the Globe and Mail is the... You know what irks me? I don't understand why we don't get, in a TV show, The Nationals from CBC. They play all this weird crap on Link and they play all this weird crap on free speech tv you know like Democracy Now which is like, you know pounding their left-wing drum like there's no tomorrow. And then all these other stations and cable and PBS we get the BBC news but what do we want the BBC news for? What about Canada they're right next to us and they do all kinds of stuff up there We don't get the CBC's national The National is one of the best newscasts

58:04 in the northern hemisphere. It's really good, except there is an hour long news show instead of a half hour, it's like the News Hour. It usually has boring features but their actual news coverage is quite good. Hey! Now this is interesting... Maybe we can run it on the stream? This is very interesting John One of the companies that provides millimeter wave scanning technologies Rapiscan Systems is an OSI systems company and who do you think is on the board? Of OSI? Yeah. Who? Actually, founder of the company Mr Deepak Chopra. Deepak Chopra?! Yes it's not the new age dude isn't that... No it's a niche

59:12 I guess in a niche show right thing is his name. Who is the who was this guy then look him up google him what's a show pro he's probably probably has a son named Anish the guy like shoppers like Smith. Let's see it's probably you know 100 million show pros So there's something fishy about this millimeter wave thing, that's for sure. Now they're gonna make them and there was also something fishy about why we weren't using them. They have them in shipole and don't use them on Americans it's weird or American travelers or travelers to the US

1:00:00 Anish is that the guy's name? I think so. Yes, and Nisha Chopra He's the see whatever he is chief technology officer or something like that or head of somewhere else Something or other I'm telling you these it's like his son or something. I'm telling ya here you go I didn't see another spider. It is here what are the names of Deepak Chopra children as deep back shoppers kid Yeah, well this is an old... This is an older guy. If you look at OSI Systems it looks like Anish's his kid

1:00:37 Huh, alright. Warrant some investigation You know what? It's going to be a very busy year John Now that you've put me on this whole Indian Cabal crap Now I'm gonna spend all my waking hours trying to figure out... And this is tough because these names get complicated for a simple western boy like me and you're right it's like Chopra is a name like Jones Yeah, goop does the other one that's the Smith. I guess yeah So one of the things people should do is you look up raw raw India You know agents this third intelligence agency they actually have a bunch of just like we do They don't get a lot of there's two things I notice and you know There are some articles that refer to this There's very they get very little press negative or otherwise and most of the press they do get it's quite negative by the way They do dead a lot of bombings

1:01:29 And the other thing that's given short shrift is the Indian mob, the mafia in India is formidable and it gets very little write-ups but you can start looking at up and you start finding the main players. They own pretty much Bollywood and they also own the gold trading business which was... You know they were making most of their money bringing in gold to sell to Indians who are somewhat superstitious about gold at extremely high markups and they now the question now it's legal this report was legal to trade it and that's one of the things they did but you look up the Indian people should just read about the Indian mob and so if they own if they own Bollywood which of course pretty much owns Hollywood now which is the entire reason why Slumdog Millionaire will became movie of the year. It was a good movie, but hey there were a couple other contenders

1:02:26 But you know that was a we talked about this like come on in boys. This is it You know the movie business the money is pretty much run by the mob Wow, so how do you put more the Mumbai terrorist attack into all of this? Where did that where did that come from? There is a bunch of references to it there is it's like a couple different agencies and Pakistan I something to do with they are you know The other agency have to keep an eye on as the ISI which is the Pakistani NCIA. And I don't know, where the Mumbai bombing comes in with this. It's just a mess. Why can it not be easy when we had spy vs spy? White hat black hat! Just simple now we gotta like Google all this stuff and now it's getting complicated So according to

1:03:15 Stack he says that yeah, they're saying hey Kennedy because the way he screwed them over on the Bay of Pigs fiasco Yeah, that's why I said. That's in an article you know about white presidents are afraid of the CIA They actually they dragged him into Dulles dragged him in drag Kennedy into the whole plan it was there was no way for him to get out and To get out of it And they were actually Truman actually wrote a And it's in the Truman Library, he wrote an op-ed which I don't think actually ran. But his handwritten notes are in there and its pretty clear what was going on there. Drew him into it. It is also suggested that Canada is closing their parliament until after the Olympics so not to draw attention away from these great games

1:04:01 Well just before their Christmas break, opposition ministers of parliament passed a resolution demanding the government hand over all of its documentation on the Afghan controversy or controversy including uncensored versions of emails concerning the detainee issue that Colville sent to Ottawa during his term in Kabul. So there's something going on there too I don't know why we just do not get out of these situations Because war is a racket John. It's a racket Yeah, you're right. You know that the Queen of England controls Canada. This is no this isn't well known We've been through this and okay send your email to adamantmevo.com But you are in the Commonwealth The queen controls you the Queen of England where the alliance we got on the agenda for depressing news

1:04:56 Well actually it's a piece of good news from Andrew McLaren from Australia. I was listening to the national broadcaster ABC radio last week and they had a special on podcasting, the only podcast they had time to mention was No Agenda! And then Adam Curry was the father of podcasting this was on live radio across the country from Brisbane, Australia on Friday afternoon around 3 15 p.m., potential audience in the millions So we of course do hope that this has brought us millions more Australians listening to the program. And while I'm on that, why don't I bring you a bit of Australian news about a dude named Peter Spencer? Have you heard about Peter Spencer John? No, of course not! So Peter... so and Peter Spencer is a victim actually of the Kyoto Protocol

1:05:49 And I could tell you exactly what's happening, but maybe if i just play this little clip which lasts about a minute and half it kind of explains. It is from ABC News from the Australian Broadcasting Company But the short version is he's not allowed to do anything with his 20 thousand acres of land because of course you can't even clean up dead trees anymore apparently under some these laws of the land thanks to Kyoto Protocol. The guy's been on hunger strike, this 61 year old I believe Peter Spencer he sitting on a 10 foot pole has not had anything to eat for three weeks and that he said he serious as a heart attack about bringing attention to this one was in this clip so we can get some info. Oh yes good okay here we go

1:06:36 A Kuma farmer has put his life on the line to protest against what he calls the theft of land in the name of the environment. Peter Spencer is on the eve of his 25th day without food, He says he won't eat until farmers are compensated Suspended on a narrow platform 10 meters above the ground, Peter Spencer is a man on a mission. The 61 year old had his last meal of scones and jam three and half weeks ago. He's surviving on water lemon juice and vitamins For 15 years Mr Spencer has been unable to graze 90% of his former fine wool property in the Coomber Monaro district because of changes to state laws. Now the bank is threatening to foreclose. Property is sanctified, in a civilised society if we can't all see that

1:07:25 then I'll sit here until i rot. Under the Howard government Australia claimed a 22% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions entirely through state-based native vegetation laws which prevented clearing on properties like Peter Spencer's no compensation was ever paid under the Rudd government farmers say their grasslands and their soils will be the next big carbon sinks Peter has lost 90 percent of his property, the Commonwealth Government Okay you get the idea Yes pathetic and at the Howard is a jerk that guy. Yeah, I love the spirit of this guy though he's sitting up there on his it kind of looks like

1:08:02 like the weird guy who had the auto gyro helicopter-like plane in Mad Max. And he has a hat on, one of those floppy ear hats and the guy's right! When civilization doesn't recognize ownership property of your land to be able do what you wish then you're not a civilized society anymore. Reminds you anything? So I just desperately love the Australians for how they get into this. And there's one of our producers who put together a whole page of videos, news reports and new stories on this Peter Spencer who is really getting some attention This is what GetUp should be covering instead only about man-made global warming and cap and trade these guys should be all over this

1:08:55 Because this is the result of a 15 year old climate change regulation. This is exactly what happens! Yeah, you won't be able to plant a tree in your own backyard... I mean there's already talk about people banning home gardens. Oh well that's where the Codex Alimentarius is totally going to help because you know you won't be able to grow anything organic unless you have a certificate from the Ministry of Organics Yeah, well the guys who really get screwed are the small farmers who or they can't afford that go through the paperwork Because you know these things it's never free to do any of this stuff. It's time-consuming and it costs money There's fees attached everything and so your screw yourself. It's ridiculous You have to go underground gray market turn into Russia

1:09:47 All right, so let's talk about how we plan on expanding this program in the new decade John or decayed as they say in United Kingdom because the only way we're going to do it is by what people affectionately call begging for money. Yes and let me thank some people that did give us some money after our last round of begging By the way, we've decided to restructure the show I'm telling people now who are gonna turn off the show because they don't want to hear this is that We've restructured the show so the craziest stuff you've ever heard comes up right after the donations. Yes. I'm standing by Is that my cue? Is it my turn yet John am I ready to go?

1:10:29 So we got some money from a number of people who gave us between 50 and 100. Ken Dusling of Stittsville, Ontario is up there in the cold country. Without a government? He actually gave us 6543 which is kind of cute. Light Chow in Daly City gave us 5555. And I guess he's been a listener for awhile, Lai Chow and Daily City. Brian Rogers gave us a palindrome 50.05. And then we have... Let me save this one to the end. We have Kevin Liang from Richmond BC. Yes our executive producer.

1:11:15 Kevin get yourself some burrowing owl cabernet and give it toast us John Smith from st. Petersburg, Florida gave us $133 and he made the point that his name is easy to pronounce And he sees he says by the way from 2002 to 2006 you have to imagine your name John's how many John Smith's are there? I was on the fucking no-fly list and this crotch bomber wasn't Oh yeah, I mean I couldn't come into the country for two years without going through secondary and tertiary screening. It's crazy! Thor Lovskogan L-O-V-S-K-O-G-A-N from Bergen Norway gave us some money that seems to have been lost in the shuffle Tim Humer H-U-E M-M E-R from Pelzer South Carolina says that his name was not mentioned so he said here is another $50

1:12:15 So maybe we shouldn't mention anybody. $100 here from, let's see oh okay yeah okay here we go. It's for Orange County and he says if you or Adam can pronounce my last name correctly I'll double my donation correct pronunciation ready? Okay, I'm set. Here's the joke he didn't say that we had to identify the correct pronunciation. We just had to pronounce it right so we were just going with it no matter what yeah every iteration its Cori I think is Watillo W-A-T-I-L-O but it could be Waterlow or Watilo

1:12:56 It could be Watilo, it could be Wadelo or Watillo. Or if you had another L it would be Wa-Tee-Oh which I don't think it is Well there's only one way to find out John There's only one way to find out the correct pronunciation and that's to ask Apple Here we go! Call me Watillo They got it to what's interesting So I think it's what till oh yeah, Cory. What's all cuz he's in California some Orange County He California is always pronounced things logically and with a twist twist Toward you know Spanish pronunciation so Watalo would be something you might say in the east coast But what Tilo would be what you'd say on the west coast if you were pronouncing it cold as a cold pronunciation I still say we win and we double down. Yeah, we do win because we did pronounce it unless It's something crazy like Vatilo! Vatilo! Like Wacilla

1:13:52 Then we got Daniel Jackson gave a 7535 if he'd plug floppy a Mac out calm Floppy a Mac out. I like that what's it? What's up your Mac? I f l op Y a mac out comm is an Apple centric podcast with an apple skit. I Like that flop you Mac out not be Mac out boys This funny You should see the artwork and that's it that's actually larry larmo thirty three was in the chat room and he is uh... dali's in met melbourne said daniel jackson and is in elbow okay but i have a good show on this issue subscribe to this as they are no jackson's of melbourne shows in australia we'd larry at larmo thirty-three give us sixty one seventy five any city wants to get sponsors and we should stop begging for money yeah but they would let us just say one more time this is where you're wrong

1:14:49 That would be exactly the wrong thing to do. And what's funny is I hear people talking about sponsorship on this show and I literally hear them say, you know sponsors are great because that gives you... it doesn't bother us cause then we know oh it's a sponsorship message so were gonna go do something else or surf the web or take a leak or whatever Don't understand that works perpendicular if we can bring sponsors of products you will actually buy You know the sponsors aren't going to be there anymore and besides that we wouldn't be able to do 90% of the stuff we talk about. Yeah, because our first sponsor would be Monsanto! Well of course if Monsanto really wants a pony app I'm all for it you know there's nothing like having company of the year just buy you out. Well yeah they're gonna spend... Here is an example just 40 minutes ago

1:15:44 Now, you know, Mevio... one of its big sponsors is Enterprise. They're not sponsoring any of the shows I'm doing? Well no, of course not! But they're certainly not sponsoring this one because i don't think that would have been appropriate to do Right And even if we wouldn't get in trouble for it That's why I couldn't tell my personal anecdote about the enterprise and why I disliked them right and even if we uh Even if we got away with it You know It's-I can't then turn around and say oh by the way get a great deal from uh Enterprise Or at least I could because i like them but you don't. So, don't you see how this works? And there's one other thing... You want to talk about that email thread that was going on?

1:16:26 Yeah, go ahead. No I don't know anything about it. You do is like we from Steven Pelsmarkers Oh Pelsmarkers yeah, yeah Yeah, Pelsmarkers So he's been donating a lot of money which were highly appreciative of yeah, and he's from van der hoven so no he's me from Zandam. Zandam, yeah. And so you know I make a crack and saying oh he must have a man crush on us he's like oh you're insulting your listeners my god dude you know this is like humor nanu-nanu uh get over it but then you know you respond to it with a really long email which was almost uncharacteristic for you so I feel that he probably hit you with something there John

1:17:13 Well, he yeah it is uncharacteristic. I tend to either write short essays to people or usually okay you know something very terse and more known for that no what he did was brought up the issue that comes crops of every so often its usually from people who just want to complain and they say you know guys are better off than most your audience in then your begging for money You know, as though we're supposed to be working for free. You know? As some sort of a public service. Yeah the two are not related! Even PBS doesn't do that I mean yeah well...I suppose you could go to Public Access TV and do a show for nothing because your on an ego trip And you just want to be on there cause I have a great voice But that's not the way we operate We're commercial people We don't, you know Do things just

1:18:01 We just don't do things for the ego. Okay, and if we can prove that we are worth some Donations oh yeah to be honest about tell you right now if we weren't getting is and we're just getting enough donations to pay for producing this show and Keeping the lights on having a dinner or two which we haven't done in ages. You haven't done that people bitch about that too They but anyway The point is is that if we weren't getting anything? We wouldn't be doing the short all no No, we would have stopped Yeah, because it's one of those things that you know you throw the stuff at the end. We just haven't been getting enough traction That's kind of interesting and we haven't really put the screws to anybody to get more money We just asked for donations that you know had no agendas Show calm and Dvorak org slash na and now the new channel Dvorak dot-com slash na for all of our Eastern Bloc listeners

1:18:52 Yeah, so that's the point. So I've heard this before where you guys are already at... You get paid, you get money, and there is just this kind of weird undercurrent of resistance based on passion. No John why don't we just stop doing the show? Why don't we just stop for a week or two and then see how people like it! Let's just stop. Shut the show down! Don't pay us anything, we'll stop it's done. We'll just shut the show down and see how much fun is your Sunday morning gonna be? How much fun is that Thursday morning when you're sitting at your computer pretending to work going to be if we're not on the air? How much fun is your commute gonna be if we're not doing this show?" Yeah and you have to listen to people telling you go see Avatar

1:19:38 And then you're actually going to go and then you can be programmed to tell your friends. That's what we need, we need some subliminal tell your friends to listen this show because I still believe the way to get twice as much money is to get more listeners. We get twice as many listeners and i think a lot of people are amenable to our...I don't think this show today except for CIA vs Obama maturity. Wait, wait I haven't hit you yet but okay. Okay so anyway the point is that I find that argument well you guys already have a dollar in your pocket and is to be lame. And I don't want to, to be honest with you, I don't want to hear it... You know? Yeah we don't really insult anybody but in fact I'd like to send out the thanks for some reason or other. I've been studying it where you get a lot of these $5 subscriptions In a very random fashion will get none for two days and then there'll be a whole slew at once. I don't know if its function

1:20:35 PayPal or what it is, but I find it weird the 27th we had like 10 So here's what's going on in the chat room. Okay Walrus says I can live without this show Okay, walrus turn it off now your ban from listening Amber, I see you can live without anything. You can live with pears, you can live without apples. Do you want a world without apples and pear? You can live without cherries. Shutting it down with that kind of attitude would probably drive me away now i love when people send emails say unsubscribed oh I'm so hurt They shouldn't subscribe if they don't believe in capitalism and commercialism, and paying someone for work that they do. Oh you know what that sounds like John?

1:21:24 communism I Ran see now. This is the product blame Pell's mockers for that right now Atlas shrug thing. All right, let's move on Just help us out and can quit you know, I just you know weird It falls on deaf ears to become make some of these complaints But they did to us it just slightly annoying because it comes and goes and it's like okay You know You know, if you don't like the show... It's unbelievable. Don't listen to it! We're not forcing anybody to listen to the show and we're not forcing anybody to give us money I want more transparency where is the money going? Well its going to hookers and blow dude what do you care when you buy a Mac Where's that money going besides China By the way wheres the money going? Ill tell ya where the moneys going it pays bills Yeah it does it pays my rent Pays bills

1:22:22 We really does it pays bill that's right and hookers and blow Actually use some of the money to buy a couple of website domains. Yeah, I we are going to one of the stories that broke this last week was the TSA busting in on some blogger And, uh... Yeah two bloggers. Two bloggers in fact. Yeah two bloggers were busted by the TSA for sending out that message that has been publiced as basically a public domain memo because the TSA sent it out to 10 thousand people who are putting together a site to begin a public movement and this is being paid for by no agenda money

1:23:02 to begin a public movement to give bloggers the same shield laws that regular journalists have. There's no reason for this sort of thing, to be intimidated by the TSA and by the way if it was true that the TSA threatened put the guy on a No-Fly list or not cooperating is that what this is really amounting too? That the TSA has a buncha thugs? Thugz! And they're gonna start strong arming people with threats of being put on a list Is that what you really...is that what the government approves of? Is that what the policy at this agency We want to know. When I walk down the street in San Francisco, I always have a wad of dollar bills and five-dollar bills you got to at least i do and I have a policy with giving money to people who are begging for money on the street it's a very... Yes, yes! I've seen him doing he generally gives everyone a $5. Not everyone no its it's I have a policy which I generally adhere too

1:24:02 First of all, women I gotta tell you have a soft spot and when...I've been brought up when a lady asks you for help you help her no matter what. That's just the way i was brought up so if there is a female on the street begging for money except for one with dresses or cats in like Santa Claus suits I can't give that one money But if someone is performing, I can't that's just crazy. God crazy crazy cat lady. I'm not gonna give you any money but If someone performs I will always give the money because you're performing and then it's up to me to decide whether, you know It was worth something and I'll determine how much there was. There's a right on By Union Square what's that beautiful little street that has the Italian restaurant? It has an English name that Street Belden no Well hit me in a second so there is this this Susan Boyle looking woman

1:25:03 and she's standing right in the middle of the street, she has a little boombox with CDs. And she is singing Ave Maria, it is the most beautiful voice I have heard live. She is there all the time! She has this old dude who sits next to her money box counting it but that's ok because she is performing An actual service is being performed and I can determine whether or not to listen to it for free, Or if maybe want her to come back. And the way that she'll be back eventually is if I'm going to drop some money In New York! I love this approach You always get me with this one Guy comes up to me he looked a little bit like Sammy Davis Jr., I have to say It was down in the village Mickey and I, about 1130 at night He says Sir excuse me? I am gonna tell you a joke If you laugh at this joke...I would appreciate a contribution

1:25:52 And I can't remember what the joke was. Actually, it was a lewd joke but it was funny! I gave him five bucks because he performed that's the way I see this show so you don't always have to give no I gave him five bucks So have you ever done what I usually do? You go up to the guy and listen and pull out ten and say here is ten buck if you stop performing No...no not like that Yeah okay You're a nice guy, that's why you do that all the time. All right here it is the moment we've all been waiting for. Join ready with your UFO sound effects Earth is under threat of a catastrophic disaster and luckily Russian scientists are gearing up to avert it according to Russia Space Agency an asteroid... This isn't this is mainstream media news named Apophis

1:26:47 Could hit the earth in the 2030s. Now that's the mainstream version of the news If you go a little bit deeper into it You mean to the Russian news media? Yeah, where all the... Where the Pravda comes from The truth It's a lot deeper actually And it looks like this thing is going to hit a lot sooner than the 2030s In fact, it could come within the next five to six years. And I'll put a couple of links in the show notes about the disinformation or really the untruths that NASA spreads about what they're seeing through their telescopes versus what the rest of world is seeing and you just gotta question why NASA is just not truthful about this stuff particularly about... They call it a comet That's what NASA says Oh! It's a comet

1:27:47 But it's really an asteroid, which is there's a huge difference between the two. And this thing is... There's a lot of this happening right now remember was it Venus that was struck by an asteroid? No small one I might add. I think it was Mars. No, I think it was Venus actually. I think you're talking about Mars. I think Jupiter also hit by... Maybe it was Jupiter yeah let me see was it Jupiter yeah Jupiter July was hit very large structure that entered its planetary zone despite everyone tracking all the stuff no one could mention it, no one could predict it. They predicted a few days in advance yeah so we don't have time to get Bruce Willis up there on the asteroid if you only have a couple of days dude when you little more time

1:28:42 Well that's why a couple of these people are talking about how we should be spending more money on asteroid hunting rather than global warming crapola. We also have to take into account that the sun has been almost inactive, you know they call it the deep solar minimum Surely you know about this stuff. That's why it's been getting colder the last decade It's right now in the Netherlands I was reading in the news Coldest in 100 years that doesn't quite jive with global warming coldest in 100 years a new ice age is upon us people are expecting

1:29:29 difficulty in travel to Europe maybe up until February because of poor conditions and that's just infrastructure because look at the United Kingdom. You can afford to go to Europe anyway! Yeah, no kidding actually the pound is uh... I think what was it? The euro? Maybe it was down a little bit. Euro still $1.45 and the pounds are about 65 is too high yeah So you call it mainstream news, but I'm not seeing it John. I'm not seeing it on mainstream. It was on TV or something they had some guy talking says yeah well we're gonna we were it's a one in 40 thousand chance of hitting the earth and We're gonna bomb it anyway just to see if we know what we're doing. See if we can hit it All right And then this will this applies to you are you in Medicare?

1:30:20 No Don't you know I was thinking about when I get older. I think I might I don't know why you know, I was still asking What is me? I don't even need to be honest about it. I might want to look into it But what Medicare is well, I think it's when you're like retired and you don't have any gig and you're not getting any donations Then you know there's likes It's like a government sponsored program that still cost you 500 bucks a month but the Mayo Clinic Praised of course by our president as a national model for efficient health care has said you know what we're going to stop accepting Medicare patients as Of January 1st in its primary care clinics in Arizona because the government doesn't pay enough. There you go there You go Arizona's where all the retirees go

1:31:11 Exactly. Now they're going there to die because it will not put seniors in a position of being put to death by their government That's the report from Bloomberg So many physicians have said I simply cannot afford to keep taking care of Medicare patients and Medicare is about to be cut accord if these bills actually come together and pass by half a bit was it half a trillion dollars 400 billion, I think yeah 440 something like that. Yeah You should find out what that's about John are you member of the AARP? Not yet You can be, aren't you eligible? Aren't you eligible at 50? You're eligible at 55 I think. Yeah well why don't you become a member there's all kinds of benefits! You can get into Avatar cheap! We don't get enough donations for me to afford it...

1:32:03 Okay, and then one more from get my way. We're not stopping this show to prove a point ever And we do have enough sustaining people that keep the show going at least twice a week or three times a week Are you like reading the chat room now? No I don't I'm not looking at the chatroom. I know what the chat rooms are like there are bunch of Literally, they're mostly bipolar psychos. No don't say that! Don't say that please! You're insulting the listeners! No our listeners in the chat room are actually pretty good I like our listeners they've got a lot of great contributions They don't sit there and just... Just yap away you know? They've got some really good stuff. I disagree this isn't- This is a good chat when we've got going on We got good people. We got good peeps man stop that Spiritual deteriorate they always do

1:32:51 Anyways, noagendashow.com or dvorak.org slash NA or channeldvorak.com slash NA to help us out for the next couple weeks and we'll dig it We'll start looking into the Indian connection of the raw CIA battle and outsourcing And it's flying saucers. We got no flying saucer story this week Do you know that there are so many flying saucer stories that I decided not to do them? There were so many videos and site It's not flying saucers its flying pyramids They were actually flying over the pyramids in each lying pyramid. Yeah, they were actually flying over the pyramids is amazing but I looked at the video and

1:33:31 The video looked very real, but they added a soundtrack like... John will never believe this one. I didn't want to bring it up. But there's been tons and tons of sightings. Oh yeah! It never stops. And we're coming up in the next couple months after the snow clears, we'll have more crop circles. It's gonna be a great year. Crop circles? It's going to be fantastic Alright, you had a little montage that yeah, we're gonna show and then I'm gonna play. I got 11 minutes of Clips oh nice

1:34:07 Last year various clips are just short snippets from the various Clips and quotes that we've collected The only one I have that's missing which I was reason. I didn't do this in the last show was the is And I still have to go dig it up, but it's fine not there. I'll tell you what It is its Obama saying that work as soon as he gets elected president He's gonna get us out of the Iraq war and you can take that to the bank nice And of course we don't couldn't find that one No, I think it's...I think that somebody came into the house and ran back to place and erased it. Oh! By the way from the chat room we buy your hookers Be quiet John. I'll hit you in the mouth Which reminds me

1:34:48 Yes, they hit in the mouth thing you didn't plow it out. That's okay It's in this clip coming up well You know we this was a reasonably laid-back show you know? It's like there wasn't a lot going on if people were just off of holiday most people are watching football We don't make shit up Yeah, we only reported as we see it and I think the nugget for today's show without a doubt was your your raw Theory and I like it now will stay on that Indeed. So coming to you, I'm sorry. More with the CIA people should go to Google and start looking it up and read a lot of articles in this kind is really interesting

1:35:25 Our timing's way off. Let's try that one again So, coming to you from Gitmo Nation West in the minimum security containment cell which I can't be in for much longer actually It's really coming down to the wire You know what's crazy is that I have papers here that YOU have to sign as well What? Yeah Because half of No Agenda is produced from here And, uh... and you're half of no agenda. You've gotta sign some papers! Brother... I can hear your jaw dropping. What? So that's because I used the parking space Oh yeah that too We have important business parking facilities here at uh At the crackpot command center so yeah if you don't mind um and then i don't know what i got to find a new place okay damn anyway

1:36:28 It's the new year and I told you about my resolutions for 2010, working very hard on them. And you'll see some of that coming up in the next week or two which also involves this program So for the first show of the new year in Get My Nation West, I'm Adam Curry And I want to wish everybody a happy 2010 and let's hope that this next decade is not like the last miserable one, which by the way was the only time in the history of the stock market where 10-year period took place where if you had invested at the beginning of the ten years. You actually had less money at the end of ten years of sitting on your money

1:37:08 or letting your money sit in the market. Anyway, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Thursday right here on NO Agenda. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! That lady is a lunatic. What she's doing is a danger to society. I'd be visited every five years by somebody and talk about how you want to die, and I think it's crazy this is in there but your thoughts? But its not in there! It IS IN THERE! Its in the bill! Its in the dingle bill! Chris first of all... So if 9-11 happened in a web 1.0 world terrorists are certainly in a web 2.0 world now If the people of America didn't create the problem who created the problem

1:37:50 If the people of America didn't create the problem? You said the people of America didn't create the problem, so tell us who created it. Well I... This- Were banks involved? Well, I would say this was this problem there's so much blame to go around That's a problem with dressing with men and getting naked and showering with them if one gets the flu you all get the flu Just like that And people who are sick should actually wear masks at home. Because it will not put seniors in a position of being put to death by their government It's absolutely run out of control, completely run amok. It's not going to work here Amsterdam is a mess, my... Swelling of the brain? Brought on by measles One thin September soon A floating continent disappears in midnight sun Brought on by measles He smelled like alcohol so I knew

1:38:40 I knew it wasn't real Santa, because Santa doesn't drink alcohol. It happened because reality just became real 30 hours ago, Yuna Lee and I were prisoners in North Korea. Boxing is full of shit man! I don't know what you think but i think American Secretaries of State ought to be in the places of human misery around the world We hit people in the mouth So what's your story? You're pretty old. You're jealous Old chicks are totally jealous of me This is the foreign service of no agenda presenting the international clip of the week The NBC store is selling Obama merchandise NPR laid off in excess of 60 workers, but NPR is also moving to grand new digs in two to three years Please explain how you can afford the new space

1:39:36 Spot you are a great national public treasure National Public Radio sponsorship underwriting advertising call it whatever you want It's always about hitting the other guy in the mouth, isn't it? That's all my blushing Drote went from California to Washington DC on algae. Shut up grandpa Why should I take you who with all due respect your expertise over McChrystal's expertise? I mean come on With Ragu, you can give your kids veggies they'll actually eat. Generally speaking we get the joke You want to educate the American people about science and its relevance today do you believe in evolution sir?

1:40:14 Do I believe in evolution? I embrace the view that God created the heavens and the earth, and seas, all that's in them. Right but you believe in evolution as a way to get it The means Chris used I can't say, but i do believe in that fundamental truth. Did you take biology in school? Did you take science which is all based on evolutionary belief and assumption? Do you believe... the reason im asking this.. If your party wants to be credible on science, you've got accept science, do you? Yeah, I always wanted to play and inherit the win but on a global warming issue

1:40:53 that in the mainstream media, this is why people don't trust Republicans. In the mainstream media Chris there is a denial and he constantly is talking about how there was no global warming every climatologist in the world says there's global warming every scientist has said there is a problem we're all on this earth together and this guy goes out and says that there's no global warming who is he? the If I can add to that, you know. One of the biggest problems we see right now is the fact that so much of what we do online actually requires training and I think where your going to see the greatest innovation in the coming decade is going to be around human computer interface and think about this. I know there are people on Second Life right now but imagine a universe where you have the Star Trek holodeck

1:42:06 where you could literally ask the computer to act or ask questions and get answers. In the same way, if you look at some of these software companies they've made it so complicated to interact with their technologies and at the same time, the underlying architecture in the platforms. It's almost a chicken and egg question because a lot of it was built and architected around bandwidth constraints therefore you had to deploy technologies that were much more complicated in terms of interacting and communicating now as broadband deployment and more importantly if you look at the megabits per second

1:42:48 how much information can we get through the pipeline is going to be so important. And as new and new software technologies are being introduced, you're going to see a huge change from how applications are architected with skip logic to video and much more human ways of interacting with these applications rather than binary or COBOL ways of interacting with those applications. Oh my God I have to sit down! Best New Starlet. Lexi Bell, Torrey Black Chase Evans, Jalen Foxx, Jayden James Nikki Jane Jamie Langford, Jandy Lin Megan Malone, Priya Ray Faye Reagan Ryder Skye Missy Stone Stoya Angelina Valentine Jimmy and Tommy and me And there was Anthony Stabile How you doing?

1:43:45 Frankie Carbone. And then there was Mo Black's brother, Fat Andy and his guys Frankie the Wopper Freddie No-Nose. How are you doing? And then there was Pete the Killer, who was Sally Ball's brother. I'm gonna take care of that thing for ya'. Then you had Nicky Eyes... What's up guy? ...and Mikey Francesi... You saw that guy yeah, I wanna see him! ...and Jimmy Two Times who got that nickname because he said everything twice like... I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers. Are you mad?! What sort of a wild goose chase are you suggesting!? It's ridiculous! He's dying to put a stop to this!!

1:44:26 Bottom speaking. He's a jackass. Manana, do-do-do-do-do.

1:45:11 Menomina! That was wonderful. Bravo I loved that Oh it's great Well, it was pretty good Well, it wasn't bad There were parts of it that weren't very good though It could have been a lot better I didn't really like it It was pretty terrible It was bad It was awful It was terrible Come away Hey boo! Boo! It was fun to stuff it The problem that I was having with the solo is that it- Like its getting a little noodley Um...I'd rather be like Err...Nerner Less notes. That would be great. Spent a lot of time working for the people To make money, searching what attitude to choose What kind of social problems must we all deal? We're arrested for our guilt And with the protestors they stood But still, we have enough to ask for

1:46:34 But he's silent on you, and then he's silent on truth. What right now to be- Like a zlulululu Um I'd rather it be like... Nyeh! Stop watching ads that do false changes! They lead us out of press ranges! When politicians become deputies, Pro-racial corporations posing as humans

1:47:24 Human souls, they were arrested by our guns It was a most absurd thing to do But still I'm glad we left you asking why we're here We started the target, but they started it from scratch Our right not to remain Won't remain silent I won't remain, won't remain silent Less, less notes. That would be great. Brought on by measles