Episode 1617 · Sunday, 17 December 2023

Twerkin' Russians

National security officials pivot Gaza strategy as pharmaceutical giants rebrand generic weight-loss drugs and a bizarre scandal rocks the halls of the United States Senate.

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National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan met with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu this week to coordinate a transition toward lower-intensity military operations in Gaza. The Biden administration is pressuring the Israeli government to move away from high-altitude bombing toward tactical missions focused on tunnel destruction and hostage recovery. Meanwhile, European authorities in Germany, Denmark, and the Netherlands arrested suspected Hamas operatives allegedly planning attacks on Jewish institutions across the continent.

In domestic news, the pharmaceutical industry is aggressively rebranding generic semaglutide as dangerous knockoffs following a 1500% surge in reported overdoses. Dr. Anja Jastrubroff of Yale University, a consultant for Novo Nordisk, is promoting a new neurometabolic framework that classifies obesity as a chronic disease rather than a lifestyle result. Senator Bernie Sanders countered this narrative during a Senate Health Committee hearing, suggesting a ban on junk food advertisements targeted at children to address the root causes of the American health crisis.

Cultural oddities include a Pennsylvania House resolution honoring Taylor Swift’s birthday and a viral scandal involving a sex tape filmed inside the Hart Senate Office Building. Alan Dershowitz claims to have written his new book, The War Against the Jews, in just sixty days, while Chris Cuomo describes the psychological toll of viewing unreleased IDF massacre footage. The broadcast concludes with a miracle report from Nashville where a four-month-old baby survived being swept up by a tornado.


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CHAPTER 01 / 51 Discussion

Megyn Kelly, Ozempic Face Observations

The hosts open the broadcast from FEMA Region 6 and Northern Silicon Valley. They discuss observations regarding Megyn Kelly's appearance, specifically attributing it to "Ozempic face." A critique follows regarding the United States media apparatus and its perceived control by pharmaceutical companies.

megyn kelly· ozempic face· big pharma· media apparatus· weight loss drugs

00:00 Dig her up! on the airwaves and we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region number 6 in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where I've noticed Megan Kelly has Ozempic face. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. Wait a minute, you noticed that after I told you she had that?

00:39 Come on. Come on, man. After you told me I didn't get I was looking I wasn't. What can I say? It took me a while when I said one the one view is oh my God, this is not good. Yeah, I told you. I told you. You did. I'm I am indebted to your accuracy. Well, since you since you brought it up right away, I think we need to look at the script. Because they're unhinged and out of control. The people, the United States media apparatus is controlled by big pharma. And they do not have your best interests at heart. Please believe me when I say this. Ugh. They... Okay. So...

CHAPTER 02 / 51 Discussion

GLP-1 Drugs, Pharmaceutical Industry Knockoff Rhetoric

A discussion of semaglutide and GLP-1 drugs focuses on the 1500% increase in reported overdoses. The narrative highlights how mainstream media outlets like CNN and ABC use the term "knockoffs" to describe compounded or generic versions of the drugs. The pharmaceutical industry's patent on the dosage dial is identified as a key factor in their marketing strategy against compounding pharmacies.

ozempic· wegovy· semaglutide· sanjay gupta· compounding pharmacies

01:31 Remember Sanjay Gupta from CNN? What I had on the last show where he was reading the script and it was like all the... Yeah, he's the guy that Rogan chewed out on his show once. It was hilarious. For horse paste. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, ivermectin, oh, that's horse paste. What are you doing? Now, if you're using the generic, because that's what geosemaglutide is, It's generic, GOP1. Yes, it's just a cheap peptide anyone can get. If you're using this and you're getting it from a pharmacy that does compounding, which big pharma has hated forever, you are now poisoning yourself. This is, as Sanjay Gupta said on the last show we had, his script, he rolled it out,

02:14 There's a 1500% increase in people overdosing on GLP-1 drugs, but it's not Ozempik and Wachovia. No, they have dials that show you so you can't overdose. No, it's people using not just compounded versions, not just generic versions. Oh no, we're improving the script. We're calling them knockoffs. Yes, ABC New York.

02:59 of semaglututin. That's the injection medication used for diabetes and weight loss. They've become so popular with these names like Ozempic and Wigovi. Yeah, so from January through November, poison centers reported nearly 3,000 calls involving semaglutide, and that is more than a 15-fold increase since 2019. Poison control centers say that they believe the dosing issues involve knockoff or compounded versions of the drug, and that is behind many of the calls. Knockoffs, knockoffs. This is outrageous language. Well, let's let's stop there. I have a couple more. So, yes, we're pausing. I just want to go to the term knockoff, which stems from the fashion industry. Oh, yes. And in the fashion industry, because there's no copyright on on dress designs.

03:50 A couture guy, some guy making fancy dresses will go out and show off the current styles and then the cheap guys will do knockoffs. And it implies a cheap copy that's not the same. Ah, you know, the only thing that is patented for these drugs, certainly for Ozempic, is the dial, is the dosage dial. That's their patent. The semaglutide is out of patent. It's, you know, I don't know if they can re-patent it. It's been around, but they've repackaged it. I'm sure they put some other magic potions in there. Let's have a listen here to...

04:33 Good morning America. Since 2019 the percentage of patients receiving a semaglutide prescription has increased well over 900 percent. A surge led largely by their use of patients lose weight but more patients means more accidents and misapplications, particularly with injecting improper doses. Charles McPherson has been taking Ozempic since April to manage his diabetes, but says he initially took the wrong dosage. Oh no! I didn't feel well. It was like I had the flu or something. I didn't feel well. I didn't feel well for a couple days so I went into the emergency room. Hold on a second, can you stop for a second?

CHAPTER 03 / 51 Discussion

Semaglutide Side Effects, Overdose Narrative Shift

Analysis of news clips from Good Morning America and CBS suggests that media reports are conflating drug side effects with "overdoses." Common symptoms like nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea are being reframed as results of improper dosing to protect brand-name reputations. Reference is made to Sharon Osbourne's public experience with the drug's negative effects.

ozempic· side effects· nausea· sharon osbourne· fda warning

03:50 A couture guy, some guy making fancy dresses will go out and show off the current styles and then the cheap guys will do knockoffs. And it implies a cheap copy that's not the same. Ah, you know, the only thing that is patented for these drugs, certainly for Ozempic, is the dial, is the dosage dial. That's their patent. The semaglutide is out of patent. It's, you know, I don't know if they can re-patent it. It's been around, but they've repackaged it. I'm sure they put some other magic potions in there. Let's have a listen here to...

04:33 Good morning America. Since 2019 the percentage of patients receiving a semaglutide prescription has increased well over 900 percent. A surge led largely by their use of patients lose weight but more patients means more accidents and misapplications, particularly with injecting improper doses. Charles McPherson has been taking Ozempic since April to manage his diabetes, but says he initially took the wrong dosage. Oh no! I didn't feel well. It was like I had the flu or something. I didn't feel well. I didn't feel well for a couple days so I went into the emergency room. Hold on a second, can you stop for a second?

05:12 How did he take... are you injecting yourself with this stuff? There's no instructions? How do you take the wrong dosage of something like this when it's an injectable and you only take it once a week? They're going to insinuate that people are morons. People are idiots and certainly the idiots who get you know just plain old GLP-1 drugs from a compounding pharmacy. You're idiots. You're morons. You don't know what you're doing. Don't worry. We're getting to it all. It's important that you take note of the horrible side effects of overdosing. I didn't feel well. It's like I had the flu or something. I still didn't feel well for a couple days, so I went into the emergency room. And with those major brand names so highly sought after, many people are turning to imitation or compounded drugs.

06:00 Imitation! Dr. Lamson says that's where he sees dosing errors. The manufactured product comes in a pen that has pre-filled doses. And so it's less likely for patients to give the wrong dose. Whereas a lot of the compounded formulations, they're dispensed in vials with needles and syringes. And it's up to the patients to draw out the correct amount of medication to administer to themselves. Yes. Oh, we can't leave that up to those people. People have been injecting themselves with drugs for centuries probably. Well, not centuries, for decades. CBS though has a different slant on it. They're going to take it somewhere that we couldn't even take it with COVID vaccines. The FDA has issued a new warning about some of the popular diabetes drugs being used for weight loss. The agency says it has received adverse event reports after patients used

06:54 Compound... Wait a minute, did they check the VAERS database now all of a sudden because they have adverse event reports? Oh goodness, I thought you never looked at that. I thought it wasn't reliable. Semaglutide, that's the generic name for medications like Ozempic and Wacovi. People tend to purchase compounded or off-brand versions of drugs online or when furnaces run out. The FDA says this often happens when certain medications like those weight loss drugs are in high demand. Thanks for the commentary. So this last news clip, I'm going to include the whole script because these two Arizona NBC affiliate ladies did a great, I mean bonus for you ladies, bonus, bonus, bonus.

07:41 Because there's two parts of the script. One is that we have a 15-fold increase in people overdosing, and that is of course because of the knockoffs, imitation, the compounded, lame-o, non-special cartridge dial versions. The second part of the script is, and they all had the same script, is what you feel like when you've overdosed on your fake knockoff version. The Symptoms of overdosing are exactly the same as the side effects that you can possibly have. Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, slow colon action from Mattel. They are exactly the same.

08:38 So part of this script is to say, and I think they're doing this to move people's focus away from The side effects, which suck, ask Sharon Osbourne, you know, I wish you could ask Megyn Kelly. She'll never ask me back on again, but if she did, I'd say, hey, were you pooping your guts out during this thing? Oh, geez, you wouldn't do that. Yeah, I would. Big talker. So that's part of the expected impossible side effects. I think what they're now doing is that if you have these side effects, Then they will call your doctor of course and say, hey, am I overdosing? Well, you should probably lower your dose or whatever. They're trying to minimize the actual side effects by calling them effects of overdosing or taking too much. Listen to these two ladies.

09:28 from NBC Arizona. They did a great job. It's believed knockoff versions of the drugs are behind many of the calls. So let's talk about it. Joining me now is Dr. Sonal Harder with Dignity Health Medical Group. This is astonishing, Sonal. I cannot believe the huge spike. Why are we seeing so many overdoses? So first of all, the prescriptions, percent prescriptions have gone up about 900% since 2019. So we all know that semaglutide is very widely used now for diabetes as well as obesity. But here's the other thing. It is actually dozing errors is what we are noticing in all these poisoning calls. Number one, so the prescription FDA approved medication comes in a pre-filled syringe.

CHAPTER 04 / 51 Discussion

NBC Arizona, Semaglutide Dosing Error Reports

An NBC Arizona segment featuring Dr. Sonal Harder from Dignity Health Medical Group details specific instances of patients injecting ten times the recommended dose of semaglutide. The report emphasizes the difference between pre-filled syringes and vials requiring manual measurement. Medical advice is provided regarding managing symptoms while the body clears the medication over a week-long period.

nbc arizona· dignity health· sonal harder· semaglutide· dosing errors

08:38 So part of this script is to say, and I think they're doing this to move people's focus away from The side effects, which suck, ask Sharon Osbourne, you know, I wish you could ask Megyn Kelly. She'll never ask me back on again, but if she did, I'd say, hey, were you pooping your guts out during this thing? Oh, geez, you wouldn't do that. Yeah, I would. Big talker. So that's part of the expected impossible side effects. I think what they're now doing is that if you have these side effects, Then they will call your doctor of course and say, hey, am I overdosing? Well, you should probably lower your dose or whatever. They're trying to minimize the actual side effects by calling them effects of overdosing or taking too much. Listen to these two ladies.

09:28 from NBC Arizona. They did a great job. It's believed knockoff versions of the drugs are behind many of the calls. So let's talk about it. Joining me now is Dr. Sonal Harder with Dignity Health Medical Group. This is astonishing, Sonal. I cannot believe the huge spike. Why are we seeing so many overdoses? So first of all, the prescriptions, percent prescriptions have gone up about 900% since 2019. So we all know that semaglutide is very widely used now for diabetes as well as obesity. But here's the other thing. It is actually dozing errors is what we are noticing in all these poisoning calls. Number one, so the prescription FDA approved medication comes in a pre-filled syringe.

10:11 The approved notice this the approved medication Approved medication comes in a pre-filled syringe, which is easier to use However, patients still have to dial in a number for the dose. Now, if you're not properly educated on how to do this, you could dial in a wrong number. For example, there was a patient who was supposed to take about .1 milliliters of the dose and she injected one milliliter, which is 10 times more. Whoa! Whoa! Oh no! Whoa! Like she knows. Whoa!

10:47 Leaders of the dose engine jacked up one actually the better line would be all that must be twice as much Milliliters of the dose engine jacked at one milliliter, which is what? Oh, so and these medications hang around for one week when you inject them. There is no one way to these medications, meaning you really have to take care of the symptoms while your body clears the medications. Okay. And when you're talking about the symptoms and the complications, I mean, what are we talking about here? Nausea, vomiting, GI symptoms like diarrhea, constipation, also paralysis of your colon at times in extreme cases.

11:22 but very low sugars seizures those are some extreme fatigue and shaking. These are some common symptoms that patients can have with overdose of these medications. That is frightening. Okay, then so what do you do? I mean, you just got to wait it out and go through all the symptoms for a week. So communicate with your health provider at all times even if they're mild symptoms because you might get some guidance on how to combat that if you severe symptoms emergency room IV fluid something for vomiting something to obviously and obviously discontinuing these medications at that point yes and pay attention to the dosage absolutely providers how to actually dose and how to take these medications. Very important. Okay, excellent advice. Thank you. I know we're going to talk to you in a couple of minutes. That's right. We're gonna do it all over again. And they did it again. They did another report. So everybody's on the take. This is everyone is on the take. And I have some some evidence to back that up.

CHAPTER 05 / 51 Discussion

Fox News, Dr. Marc Siegel on Ozempic Brain Effects

Dr. Marc Siegel appears on Fox News to discuss the potential psychological benefits of Ozempic and Wegovy. He cites a South Korean study suggesting the drugs stabilize neurons and decrease dopamine surges associated with addictive eating. The discussion explores how these medications might treat anxiety and depression by altering brain hormones.

marc siegel· fox news· dopamine· binge eating· brain hormones

12:15 But let's not forget America's favorite conservative doctor from Fox News, Doc Siegel. He was all in on the COVID shots. Remember him on Tucker Carlson? Oh yeah, Tucker. And he hates marijuana. Oh, Tucker, marijuana no good. But this stuff, this is the tits. You know, Lorne, we've been talking all about people using Ozempic for weight loss. But many of the users report a decrease in anxiety and depression since they started using the drug. Now, feel better? Decreased anxiety, that's what they say. Doc Siegel is going to straighten it all out for us, he's with us right now. Weight loss drugs like Azepic, they're treating binge eating disorders as well. Is this a new, all-purpose class of drugs, doctor? You know, Stuart, it may be. I'll tell you, I say maybe because what we can't prove yet

13:03 is whether these effects are the benefits of looking down and saying, hey, where'd my gut go, right? So you feel better, you look better, and maybe that decreases your depression. But increasing studies are showing a very positive effect of Ozembic and Wachovia and Majuro. on the brain. What are they doing? They're stabilizing neurons in the brain. They're decreasing that surge of dopamine that you get right after you eat that causes more eating. It's addictive eating. When it tastes good, you get the hormone and this is actually blocking it. What does Ozembic do, by the way? It stops sugar release from the liver. It causes delayed emptying of the gut.

13:43 And this is the key and a big study in South Korea is showing this it works on the hormones in the brain It causes the brain hormones to change so you don't feel hungry, and you also don't feel anxious So I'm buying this I think that this is this is a real finding. It's a real finding Yeah, doc. It's a real finding from a breakthrough study in Korea. Yeah sure So, Reuters did a huge article on doctors getting paid as consultants. By the way, anyone remember the Sacklers? Everyone remember how that went with the opioids? Everyone getting paid? Yeah, just double the dose. So, one of the doctors, according to this report from Reuters, which I'll just have to say, we're going to have to take that as fact,

CHAPTER 06 / 51 Discussion

Dr. Anja Jastrubroff, Obesogenic Environment Concept

Dr. Anja Jastrubroff of Yale University is identified as a consultant for Novo Nordisk who promotes the idea of obesity as a chronic "neurometabolic disease." She introduces the concepts of the "defended fat mass set point" and the "obesogenic environment." The hosts critique this terminology as a way to medicalize lifestyle factors like diet and lack of sleep.

anja jastrubroff· yale university· novo nordisk· obesity· neurometabolic disease

14:30 who's been accepting money from Nova Nordis. And by the way, you'll hear that the script is only for Rugovi and Ozempic. What they're not talking about is any of the other brands. Certainly not Monjaro or Deathbound. So one of the doctors accepting the money is Dr. Anja Jastrubroff of Yale University Center for Weight Management. And she has received $130,000 as a consultant to this company in in Denmark, who I guess needs her services, but there's a list. This must be a 3,000 word article. Oh, and wouldn't you know it? Here she is on her own little YouTube channel. Semaglutide, like other medications that are used for obesity treatment, have to be taken long term. Just as for any other chronic disease, if a medication is stopped for any reason, the disease is no longer being treated.

15:24 So, for example, if somebody is taking a medication for hypertension, if you stop that antihypertensive medication, the blood pressure goes up and we're not surprised. In the same way, if someone is taking a medication for obesity treatment, when it is stopped, weight gain occurs or weight regain occurs more accurately. Why is this? So, obesity is a chronic disease. It's a neurometabolic disease. What? It's a neuro metabolic disease. This is part of the changing of the truth. Yeah, no, they've been working on this one for a while and she's paid to to confuse you with language and telling you you have a disease meaning that our body and our brain talk to each other. What happens is our body is very, very smart. It wants to carry a certain amount of fuel and the way that our body does this is by carrying fat.

16:21 And our body does not want to carry too little fat because then we would starve. And our body also doesn't want to carry too much fat because then we would not be able to do the things that we need to do and have our body function well. And so there's a sweet spot. And we call that sweet spot the defended fat mass set point. The defended fat mass set point. I like the idea of a fat mass. And so it's basically the amount of fuel or the amount of fat that your body wants to carry. Now, within the context of our current obesogenic environment. Obesogenic environment. Woo! I like that one too. Obesogenic. How do they come up with this stuff? Obesogenic environment. With all of these highly palatable... Say what?

17:16 For showtowel obesogenic. Yeah. Obesity. Although fat mass, I wonder if fat mass is anything like a fat wa. We'll get into that later. He wants to carry now within the context of our current obesogenic environment. So an environment with all of these highly palatable, highly processed foods, the lack of sleep, the lack of. Oh, an obesogenic environment is basically. When you live at McDonald's. Movement and physical activity. Did she say lack of sleep? Yeah, oh yeah. Lack of sleep. That's part of your obesogenic environment. Highly palatable, highly processed food. Highly palatable. What does that mean in this context? It means it's tasty. They put a bunch of salt and fat. Mmm, yum. Sugar. Mmm. All of these highly palatable, highly processed foods. The lack of sleep. The lack of movement and physical activity. Yes!

18:09 Yes, that makes sense. Podcast life. I try to stand sometimes during the podcast. Movement and physical activity, stress, all these different things in our obesogenic environment that has pushed up the defended fat mass set point on a population level. beautifully well said here's your check here's your boy I'll tell you I'd pay her to straight to hell she's going I'm telling you good so this came up in the Senate And I mean Bernie Sanders, everyone's all in and it's of course our obesogenic environment. It's really the, it's the food guys, the food guys. It's their fault because they're creating an obesogenic environment. They need to put a Senate committee together with Nadler running it.

CHAPTER 07 / 51 Discussion

Bernie Sanders, Senate Committee on Obesity and Junk Food

Senator Bernie Sanders and the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee address the rising costs of diabetes treatment and insulin. Dr. Keisha Lipska testifies that the food industry profits from making people sick while the drug industry profits from treating them. Sanders suggests banning junk food advertisements targeted at children as a preventative measure.

bernie sanders· senate health committee· junk food ads· insulin prices· diabetes

19:02 Luckily, at the end, there's one little kicker of sanity from the doctor. is about trying to get this stuff onto Medicare. They desperately want it to be paid for by the rest of America. Senators say last year the U.S. spent nearly $413 billion treating the millions in the U.S. with diabetes. That's up 27% over the past six years. Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders says it's only expected to get worse. The number of children

19:39 in America with type 2 diabetes is estimated to skyrocket by nearly 700% over the next 40 years. Number one! Thursday, Dr. Keisha Lipska told senators on the Senate Health Education, Labor and Pensions Committee committee. That rising insulin prices put some of her patients' health in jeopardy. What happens is that patients cannot afford those medications and so they go without. Senators say with many Americans turning to drugs like Ozempic to improve other conditions like obesity, it's harder for their constituents to even access the diabetes drug. How can Congress ensure that all populations that can benefit from this medication have access to it?

20:20 The supply issue is important, but there's also really important shortages because of the price. And Sanders says Congress also needs to address how to prevent obesity in the first place. A good place to start would be to ban junk food ads targeted to children. Keep the pharma ads! Ban the junk food ads! Dr. Lipska says Congress needs to do more to hold both the food and drug industries accountable. We have a food industry that profits from making people sick, and a drug industry that profits from treating them. Thank you, doctor! There you go, give that lady a check. That is exactly what's going on.

21:01 The food companies keep you sick and the pharmaceutical industry gives you drugs to keep you just healthy enough to live enough to go buy more crappy food. Yes, to push the button, fill out the form, buy more food, eat some meats people, eat some meat. It's unbelievable. This is an all-out assault. An assault on people. Oh, don't worry about it. You can just, you know, where do you live? Oh, oh, you're in an obesogenic environment. No problem. We got this special, don't take, don't take the cheap one. Uh-uh, because that'll make you poop. No, you want this one with the dial on it. Ah, protect your children, please. It's unbelievable, these people. Anyway, that was my Big Pharma report. Congratulations, everybody.

CHAPTER 08 / 51 Discussion

Media Personalities, Live Injection Predictions

The hosts speculate on which morning news anchor will be the first to self-inject weight loss medication on live television. Names mentioned include Al Roker, Savannah Guthrie, and Gayle King, noting that Oprah Winfrey has already admitted to using the drugs. They discuss the history of morning show hosts promoting diet systems like Nutrisystem.

al roker· savannah guthrie· oprah winfrey· morning news· weight loss

21:59 Yes, I expect two or three more of these. Well, this was the script. I mean, I don't know if they're going to come up with another angle. I could have. Yeah, they would have clipped. Of course they will. I could have clipped five more locals and morning shows. You know what? Yeah, they're out of control. What I expect next, I expect. Heaven forbids giving us any news, world news or anything important. Here's what I expect. I expect before the year is out, we will see a morning news person Self injecting on camera just to show how easy it is with the dial well I'm not gonna condemn you for predicting the obvious I Just want to see it happen, but I agree You're probably right some idiot one of these people are gonna who will it be? Who's fat who's I think it should be al Roker no al Roker He lost all the weight no I know but he's still kind of how about whoopee whoopee

22:59 No, she won't do it. No, she's too smart. She's got too much pride. Who else do we have? Who would do it? It has to be one of the women that aren't real. It would be something like Savannah who's kind of like, you know... No, she's not... How about Gail? Gail still has a little punch to her. Gail won't do it. No. Well, Oprah did it. Oprah admitted that she did it. Yeah, that's fine, but she was not going to do it on... The ones that'll do it on camera have to be the most shameless of the mourning people. Yeah. That's why I think Savannah would do it. But you're right, she probably shouldn't do it. People condemn her for, you're already thin, why are you doing it? Yeah, we need someone who's, you know, clearly obesogenic. Okay, how about this? Okay. They bring in, they do a cattle call and they bring in an anchor from one of the outlying stations. Local station, local anchor. And they bring her onto the network because this might be her big chance.

23:55 Convince her agent that she should come to New York. Hey, I'm her expense. Hey, I got a great listen I got some great news for you. You're gonna go national baby. You're gonna be on the network. Oh Really? Yeah, all you got to do is inject yourself Well, it have to be somebody already taking it so they won't even be shy about well that could be any morning disc jockey That would also. The morning disc jockeys, they always used to, hey, John, how are you doing on the Nutrisystem diet? It's fantastic. I'm still retaining water, but I'm down to 240 pounds. I've been on so many morning show guys live an obesogenic life. They really do. They eat. They're jolly. They're jolly, yes.

24:50 It's just it's so disturbing that they're calling for oh we should outlaw advertising of fast food Keep the drugs going though. Keep them going. That was a good one. That's actually the best part of that whole series Yes, well, that's why I played it last man. I've been doing this for 45 years 45 years have been doing this stuff Sorry I was I was I was rolling into the next bit Roll! And now it's time for 3x3! Experiment by JCD! Woohoo! Comparing stories from ABC, CBS and NBC! The never-ending 3x3! He has three network reports, all scripts, all the same stuff. Who knows? It's always interesting to hear what is going on in JCD's 3x3. Well this is an interesting... This leads into my more extensive Hamas report.

CHAPTER 09 / 51 Discussion

ABC News, Israel-Hamas High-Intensity Operations

ABC News reports on National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan's meeting with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu regarding the transition from high-intensity to lower-intensity military operations in Gaza. The report mentions the use of "dumb bombs" and the Biden administration's push for more tactical, targeted missions to rescue hostages and destroy tunnels.

jake sullivan· benjamin netanyahu· gaza· dumb bombs· hamas

25:45 which will be revealing what I consider to be the scam of this entire conflagration in the Middle East. But this is a, and I'm not sure where this goes except for some clip I have that follows this of Jake Tapper discussing things. But let's go with the three by three discussing the conflagration in the Middle East with ABC ABC just started off tonight that high-stakes meeting in Israel Thank you for your support national security adviser Jake Sullivan urging Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to scale back the most intense fighting amid the soaring civilian death toll in Gaza

26:30 He did talk about possible transitioning from what we would call high-intensity operations, which is what we're seeing them do now, to lower-intensity operations sometime in the near future. A U.S. official confirming a report in The New York Times that a lower-intensity operation may involve the use of smaller groups of elite Israeli forces that would carry out more precise missions to find and kill Hamas leaders, rescue hostages, and destroy tunnels. President Biden weighing in. I want them to be focused on how to save civilian lives. Not stop going after Hamas, but be more careful. Tonight, a US official confirming that nearly half the air-to-ground munitions that Israel has used in Gaza have been unguided. So-called dumb bombs. Experts say dropping those bombs from the bombsheets, which a Pentagon official claims Israel is doing, can boost their precision. And Netanyahu defiant, saying Israel is more determined than ever to continue fighting until Hamas is eliminated.

27:30 The Israeli military is releasing this video showing dozens of men with their hands up surrendering, claiming they're Hamas militants who were operating inside a hospital. For the Gazans living under Israel's relentless bombardment, desperation and fear, nowhere is safe. And after 69 days of fighting, concern for the more than 100 hostages who are still in the hands of Hamas. The Biden administration wants Israel to move to a more tactical, targeted operation as soon as possible. But they also want a plan for the future of Gaza, not just the end of Hamas. OK, so let me see if I understood correctly. We're calling for some bullcrap measure going from high intensity to low intensity. Stop with the dumb bombs and be more focused. Be more precise. I'm missing the word. I'm missing the word surgical.

CHAPTER 10 / 51 Discussion

NBC News, Richard Engel on Gaza Bombing Precision

Richard Engel reports for NBC News on the U.S. intelligence assessment that nearly half of the 29,000 air-to-ground munitions used by Israel in Gaza are unguided. The segment highlights the pressure on the Israeli military due to humanitarian collapse and Palestinian casualties. The hosts mock the audio production of the news clip.

richard engel· nbc news· unguided munitions· gaza· pentagon

28:21 And and what's your strategy? Is that what I'm hearing? Yeah, pretty much. And then my favorite thing about these bomb things when all of a sudden we smart bombs, dumb bombs. Remember the barrel bomb? Yeah. What ever happened to the barrel bomb? From the helicopters. Those were the best. Yes. Yeah. Well, it turns out all of that was phony and fake. You think? So let's go. That was what? That was ABC. Let's go to NBC. Same same report. Only this time we got a Richard Engel. Uh, the uh, spook. NBC spook. As Israel's war on Hamas devastates the Gaza Strip, President Biden was asked if Israel needs to tone down its military operation. I want them to be focused on how to save civilian lives. Not stop going after Hamas, but be more careful. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan. Same exact clip. Yep, same clip. Be more careful. Hey, kill carefully.

29:19 Not stop going after Hamas, but be more careful. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan meeting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu today. Two U.S. officials familiar with the discussion tell NBC News Sullivan told the Israeli government the administration wants Israel to end its large-scale ground campaign in Gaza and transition to a more targeted phase of its war against Hamas. But that Sullivan did not specify a timetable to do this. Israeli military officials tell NBC News... What was that? Someone in the back room has stepped over some cords, knocked a mic over. There was supposed to be a bomb explosion there but instead they did this. That's wrong. Hey, editor, Nat Pops, okay? ...but that Sullivan did not specify a timetable to do this.

30:09 Israeli military officials tell NBC News tonight... We should fix that for them. I mean they just didn't do that right. Hold on, so let me see. I agree. Okay. I think machine gun fire, that's what I like best. You want machine gun? Machine gun? Okay. Yeah, I got some good machine gun stuff. Okay, I got something here. Hold on. Should we do an AK-47? Let's do an 8. Hey, why don't I have AK-47? Oh, there we go. Okay, there we go. Fix it for him. We'll fix it. Of its war against Hamas, but that Sullivan did not specify a timetable to do this. Israeli military officials tell NBC News tonight they anticipate a long military campaign, but recognize they are under pressure because of Palestinian casualties and the humanitarian collapse in Gaza.

30:56 Our crew filmed the aftermath of Israeli strikes today and followed the victims to a hospital. This was in southern Gaza, where Palestinians have been ordered to go. Israel says its war is more than justified after Hamas massacred at least 1,200 Israelis and took 240 hostages on October 7th. And Richard, I want to go back to this new U.S. intelligence assessment about the bombs Israel has been using in Gaza. What's the significance of that report? Well, the assessment says that about 40 to 45 percent of the air-to-ground munitions, 29,000 air-to-ground munitions that Israel has dropped on Gaza since October 7th are unguided, which are far less precise. Oh, oh, unguided.

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CBS News, Gaza Governance and UN Pressure

CBS News covers the surrender of alleged Hamas fighters and the ongoing bombardment in Rafah and Khan Yunis. Former Consul General Alon Pincus discusses potential U.S. pressure on Israel, including the threat of withholding a veto at the UN Security Council. The report notes a disagreement between the U.S. and Israel regarding the future governance of Gaza.

cbs news· un security council· alon pincus· gaza· hostage release

31:40 A different word for dumb. Okay. Unguided, unguided. All right. So we're being set up for something here. Not sure what, except I have some ideas which will follow. But let's start with the, let's finish this up with our, the one that always is the best at the end, is CBS. Always. Yep. The CIA broadcasting systems. Here we go. Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice. Good start, boys. Good start. Very good. In a shattered school, Israel's military said it killed many militants in intense fighting in the past day, hailing the surrender of about 70 alleged Hamas fighters. In the south, Israeli strikes leveled homes and killed dozens in Rafah and Khan Yunis. One survivor said they're children. Today's deaths, adding to the more than 18,000 killed, according to Gaza's health ministry run by Hamas.

32:33 President Biden weighed in. I want them to be focused on how to save civilian lives. not stop going after Hamas, but be more careful. U.S. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan in Israel today pressed Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on a timeline. Two U.S. officials tell CBS News Israel's current phase of its offensive should be completed in two to three weeks, followed by lower levels of bombing for several months. On Israeli TV, Mr. Netanyahu said, I told our American friends we're more determined than ever until Hamas is eliminated. He's playing a game, a political game. Look at me, I'm standing up to American pressure. Alon Pincus is Israel's former consul general in New York. What future pressure will the US apply? Refrain from a veto vote at the UN Security Council. There are several courses of pressure that the US can apply. One of those are these frequent visits.

33:33 As Israel's president in Tel Aviv marked the last night of this year's Festival of Lights, the country still hopes for a miracle. The return of more than 100 hostages still held in captivity. And while the US and Israel are working together towards another phase of hostage releases, the two do not agree on who will govern Gaza after this war is over. Well, at least they gave a better timeline. They had the same clip of Biden, of course, kill carefully. Exactly the same clip, which I mean, usually all three networks don't have the exact same clip cut exactly the same. So how does that happen? They got to call each other up. No, they got their money. Get one clip from the White House and say, use this. They send out a vinyl like we used to get back in the day.

34:21 That big, big special vinyl you could only play five times. The 16-inch transcription disc is what it's called. Thank you. Yes, look that up, people. Transcription disc. And you take the clip from there. That's all they got. Yeah, of course. People are busy in the newsrooms. They don't have time to be looking for clips. They don't have no agenda producers looking for clips for everybody. No. No, they are busy. They're busy, especially around the holidays. This is the B team. Everybody's out. Oh, we got a war. Yeah, but you promised me two weeks of vacation at Christmas time, but we got two wars. Yeah, I don't care. Bring in Bob. Bob works at, uh, in Idaho. He can do it. Bring in the affiliate boys. Yeah, there is an element of that for sure. Um, so I want to continue this because I have a thesis that this poll, of course the thesis is not new to the show.

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Taylor Swift, Music Theory and MK Ultra Claims

A brief aside mentions an analysis of Taylor Swift's music, claiming she uses the same four chords and progressions in most songs. The hosts joke about "MK Ultra" influences in pop music. A personal reference is made to a listener known as "Incognigro" and past interactions regarding racial topics.

taylor swift· music theory· chord progressions· mk ultra· incognigro

35:20 and is not new to our analysis of the Middle East. Then why even bother? Let's just go straight to Taylor Swift news. Okay, okay, by the way, you know the incognito who writes me every so really still around he doesn't write my Sends me clips and he sent me a clip of I should I should I'll send it to you and you should put it on the show notes It's a clip of a guy doing an analysis of Taylor Swift's lame music And it's she uses the same four chords in the same progression on almost every song. She does it's MK ultra and

36:01 Yeah, well I think you've got, you think you might be onto something with that. Hey, what, how come, does Incognigro not like me? Do I recall something and he hated me for some reason? You're a racist. Oh, that was it. You're making up for it by being buddies with Mo. My best friend happens to be black. I get to say that. I have a friend who is black. Who happens to be black. You gotta say it right. He happens to be black. Right, I gotta get the wording down correctly. Gotta get it right. So let's go to NTD and I wanna play this. This is the Israeli Jake Sullivan, NTD.

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Jake Sullivan, US Involvement in Gaza Strategy

National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan's language during his visit to Israel is analyzed, specifically his use of the word "we" when discussing military phases. The hosts question the extent of U.S. involvement in the conflict's strategic planning. Sullivan also met with President Isaac Herzog to discuss hostage release efforts.

jake sullivan· ntd news· gaza· military operations· isaac herzog

36:37 This is N.T.D. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan is in Israel to reaffirm U.S. support. He's meeting with top officials pushing to move to war into its next phase. The U.S. wants more intelligence-based raids and precise targeting of Hamas leadership. We are now in the middle of a high-intensity phase with ongoing ground operations, military operations. Hold on a second. Is this our war? Exactly. What's going on here? Oh, send Jake in. Hey man, we want it done differently. You're not killing right. So if you listen to that carefully and it reiterates in the next half of this clip, he says we. Yes, we.

37:24 as if it's our USA, our war. It's not a we situation, but he says we as though it's we. So let's listen to the second half of this. We are now in the middle of a high intensity phase with ongoing ground operations, military operations in both the northern half and the southern half of Gaza. But there will be a transition to another phase of this war, one that is focused in more precise ways on targeting the leadership. Sullivan today also met with Israeli President Isaac Herzog in Tel Aviv. The two discussed efforts to secure the release of the hostages held in Gaza. Nah, I don't like any of this. What are we doing?

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Hamas Operatives, European Arrests and Weapons Caches

Reports detail the arrest of suspected Hamas members in Germany, Denmark, and the Netherlands. Authorities in Germany allege the suspects were tasked with locating an underground weapons cache in Europe to prepare for attacks on Jewish institutions. The hosts compare the sudden emergence of a global Hamas threat to previous narratives involving ISIS and Al-Qaeda.

hamas· germany· denmark· rotterdam· terrorist attacks

38:08 Yeah, what are we doing? Meanwhile, just as a little, uh, an interesting kind of an aside, which got me off the track into what I'm thinking, which is this clip, Hamas operatives in the EU. Oh yeah, I know. Also today, two suspected Hamas members arrived at a federal court in Germany. German authorities transported them using a helicopter. They're accused of planning attacks on Jewish institutions in Europe. Authorities arrested three men in Germany yesterday. Prosecutors allege they were tasked with finding a previously set up underground Hamas weapons cache in Europe. The weapons were allegedly due to be taken to Berlin. There, they'd be kept in a state of readiness for potential terrorist attacks.

38:55 Another suspected Hamas operative was arrested in the Dutch city of Rotterdam and also yesterday three alleged terrorists were arrested in Denmark in a separate case. Oh yeah, well this is, this is come due. Yeah, well. Yes, I mean this, oh boy, this is unexpected. This is as phony as ISIS and Al Qaeda. And it's actually brought together of all places. Mark Levin has a show on the weekends and he brings in Alan Dershowitz. And the two of them outline kind of what I think is, I don't know what agency who's doing this. It's obvious to me now that Dershowitz, our buddy Dershowitz, is an asset. He's an asset. You can tell because he's 80

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Alan Dershowitz, Global War Against Hamas

Alan Dershowitz appears on Mark Levin's show to argue that Hamas is expanding its scope to attack Jewish and Christian institutions worldwide. He compares the current conflict to the fight against Nazi Germany, calling for "total war" and unconditional surrender. The hosts comment on Levin's aging voice and Dershowitz's prolific book publishing schedule.

alan dershowitz· mark levin· hamas· nazism· global war

39:47 I can discuss this if maybe later on how much you can write as you get older. He's 85 and he's just finished his second book. Oh, he's writing too much. That's a giveaway. It's a giveaway. It's like the guy who did the Steve Jobs biography, the head of the Aspen Institute at the time. Eisenberg. Isaacson. Isaacson, that guy. My favorite example is... He just did the Elon Musk book too. Yeah, he's cranking these books out. Who's doing these books? Well, somebody's doing the books. I've done big books. I know what it takes to do big books. It's nothing you can just crank out like that. I like big books and I cannot lie. Yes. I like big books and I cannot lie. Let's go with this. Let's start with the Hamas, Levin and Dersh part one. To protect Jewish students on college campuses.

40:42 to daily beat the drums about what's taking place in this country. Every time they mention, when they do mention anti-Semitism, they feel the need to mention... I got to mention something. Levin's voice, the older he gets, his voice is less powerful. It's frail. I agree. You know what I mean? He doesn't, he's missing something. I worry about that for myself. My powerful voice. No, you're sounding good. You have nothing to worry about. Is becoming frail. Don't worry. Because I can't say borrower. Yeah, don't worry. I'll put the balls on you on my end. Don't worry. Yeah, put the balls on me.

41:19 uh... islamophobia there is no islamophobia in america as i've said before islamophobia is in the middle east where muslims are slaughtering muslims that's not going on in this country and muslims are not running to their dorm rooms and locking themselves in or the lunch rooms or the attics they're not afraid to go to class and so forth and so on and i could go on and on and on But why should I when I have a guest like Alan Dershowitz here? What do you make of all this? Well, you're a hundred percent, right? This is an attack against the world. We just learned that now Hamas is expanding its scope and it wants to attack Jewish entities in Europe. It's coming to a theater near you. If Hamas is not stopped,

42:05 in the Middle East. It will spread all over the world. It will start with Jewish institutions, as it often does, but it will spread to Christian institutions, it will spread to other institutions, and we'll be in a global war with Hamas as we were with ISIS and Al-Qaeda. And we must do to Hamas what the American troops under Roosevelt and under Churchill did to Japan and Germany. Bomb them! unconditional surrender, total war, total defeat. We must wipe out Hamas and people say you can't wipe out an ideology. Nonsense! We wiped out Nazism! Oh what a gem! This is good! Oh yeah. So what they're gonna be shooting up churches? Is that what I'm understanding from Dershowitz? Yeah, any minute. Yeah, bring it on. Now we know that Hezbollah

CHAPTER 16 / 51 Discussion

Palestinian Public Opinion, Support for October 7

A discussion of survey data suggests high levels of support among Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank for the October 7 attacks and various militant groups. Alan Dershowitz argues that there is little distinction between Hamas and the civilian population that supports them. He claims Gazan civilians participated in the atrocities and provided material support for terrorism.

palestinian center for policy and survey research· gaza· west bank· october 7· terror groups

43:02 is a huge, highly funded operation. Hamas are a bunch of two-bit jerk-offs in Palestine running the place. Oh, say JV team. That would be funny. And so we have... But now all of a sudden they're in the same league as Al-Qaeda, a creation of our CIA. Yes, our own boys. Or ISIS, the creation of the Obama administration. and Israel, possibly. and but they're not going to take over the place. And Pakistan. And Pakistan. So these operate this now Hamas is going to become this somehow. And we heard from that other clip that they're already being arrested left and right in Europe. In Europe. Yeah. OK, so here we go. Now we're going to hear the it gets better. Sorry. I'm just going to I have to give a disclaimer. I think this next clip is over time.

44:02 I'm sorry about that, but it's too good. I forgive you. It's okay. Professor Dershowitz, I'd like your opinion. We keep hearing about the Palestinian civilians that they don't want any of this. There's two surveys done in the last three and a half weeks. One is by the Arab World for Research and Development. That doesn't sound like an American Jewish front group to me, and it's not. And what are they right? Taken as a whole, the results indicate that an overwhelming percent of Palestinians support the October 7 massacre, 75%. Reject coexistence with Israel, 86%. Are committed to the restoration of historical Palestine, which means the elimination of Israel. As a final solution, 71%.

44:47 They support the creation of a Palestinian state from the river to the sea, the annihilation of Israel, 75% as the end of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. These are Palestinians who were surveyed in Gaza and Judea and Samaria. They said the Palestinian positive perception of terror organizations remains high, despite their role in carrying out the massacre and disastrous results. 76% believe that Hamas plays a somewhat to very positive role. 84% believe that the Palestinian Islamic Jihad plays a somewhat to very positive role. 80% believe that Fatah's terror wing, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, plays a somewhat very positive role. And 88.6% believe that Hamas's armed wing, the Al-Qassam Brigades, plays a somewhat a very positive function. So why do the media keep telling us there's this tremendous distinction, this great distance

45:42 between Hamas and other terrorist groups and the people who elect them and support them. Why do they keep telling us that? Well, it's a lie. We know that not only do the vast majority of people in Gaza and on the West Bank support the Hamas atrocities, in Gaza many of them helped it. Remember when Hamas broke through the fence and start killing Israelis Gazan civilians followed them. They participated in the rapes, the beheadings, the murders. Gazan civilians helped them by having tunnels under their homes, by having command centers, by having rockets being fired from schools and from mosques.

46:25 So look, we all have to be sympathetic to the babies and the children who are used as human shields, by the way, by Hamas. And every single one of these babies who were killed is the responsibility of Hamas. But I'm far less sympathetic to the adults who aggressively support Hamas. You know, if they were in America, they'd be tried for crimes because you can't, under American law, provide material support for a terrorist group. And these Gazans are providing material support for Hamas, which is a terrorist group. All right, so I'm obviously on board with your thesis. It's a longstanding no-agenda thesis.

47:02 Do you think that this is intended just to create a state of fear, a tension strategy amongst the United States and Western Europe? Well, I think as this continues, I have maybe three more clips that might add to this. So, it's a known fact, at least it's been a known fact and it's discussed in some forums here and there, that there's 1.4 trillion cubic feet of gas right under Gaza. There's over 3 billion barrels of oil right off the coast at Gaza.

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Gaza Natural Gas, Oil Reserves and Geopolitics

The hosts propose a thesis that the conflict in Gaza is driven by the desire to control 1.4 trillion cubic feet of natural gas and 3 billion barrels of oil located off the coast. They note that oil prices have remained low despite the conflict, suggesting a pre-arranged deal. The role of Qatar and Russia in regional energy politics is also considered.

gaza marine· natural gas· oil reserves· leviathan field· putin

46:25 So look, we all have to be sympathetic to the babies and the children who are used as human shields, by the way, by Hamas. And every single one of these babies who were killed is the responsibility of Hamas. But I'm far less sympathetic to the adults who aggressively support Hamas. You know, if they were in America, they'd be tried for crimes because you can't, under American law, provide material support for a terrorist group. And these Gazans are providing material support for Hamas, which is a terrorist group. All right, so I'm obviously on board with your thesis. It's a longstanding no-agenda thesis.

47:02 Do you think that this is intended just to create a state of fear, a tension strategy amongst the United States and Western Europe? Well, I think as this continues, I have maybe three more clips that might add to this. So, it's a known fact, at least it's been a known fact and it's discussed in some forums here and there, that there's 1.4 trillion cubic feet of gas right under Gaza. There's over 3 billion barrels of oil right off the coast at Gaza.

47:42 They are, they have, I think that this was a deal where they decided some time ago they're going to let them develop this. They cut Gaza loose. It's not an occupied territory. The Israelis left it and left it to the Palestinians to develop. and do their own thing and then maybe do some split deals, maybe who knows what, but that was gonna be a developed oil field and gas field. And they dropped the ball, they didn't do their job, and now they're gonna be rousted out of Gaza. They're just gonna get rid of all the Palestinians. Let's put shit like this in, discuss the fact that the Palestinians are bad people, which is what you just heard in that clip, and who cares what happens to them?

48:27 And we're going to hear more and more of this kind of thing. It's going to be slanted that way so we can get to those gas and oil wells. And the fact that we have to always remember a couple of things that in the background is that Biden and the Democrats are phonies. And the Democrats in particular is like the strongest string people along like they've done with the black population in this country and promising them stuff. And they're doing with the environmentalists as the Biden administration has more, has done more for the oil business than Trump ever would do. Just look at the price of Exxon stock from the day that Biden got in. We are pumping more oil than ever before. The whole Burisma thing's an oil thing.

49:09 everything, why is, and people say why are crude oil prices, they haven't done anything with this Middle East action. They usually go up. No, they've gone down because we are gonna pump more oil out of this area. This is about oil. We're gonna rouse these Palestinians to hell with them. Get them out of there. If you, they won't pump the oil because they're too stupid. We'll do it. John C. DuBois, Pet Peeve Update. Woo! It's been a while. Been a while. Well, this explains why they can't bomb them. We can't really bomb it. That wouldn't be no good. And that may also explain why these Hamas guys are in Qatar. They know a bit about gas and oil. Yep. Okay. Yep. In fact, Qatar probably has dropped the ball on this deal too. Somebody dropped the ball somewhere because this

50:00 These oil fields were known, especially the gas field underneath the Gaza itself. Let's go to clip three. And as I say, it's coming to America, it's coming to Europe. Hamas is not going to stop. If it prevails in the Middle East, it's going to continue just the way al-Qaeda and other groups have continued. So we have to stop it in the interest of America. And when I say bomb, I mean like big bombs, like mother of all bombs, like bombs to exterminate. No, you can't do that. You can't do that. You just got to rouse them. You got to clear these people out. And here is the clip for... And Israel should be a bipartisan issue. All sides should support Israel without regard to what parties they belong to. And there's been a rise in popularity of Hamas in the United States as well. On October 8th, the day after these horrors that occurred on September 7th,

CHAPTER 18 / 51 Discussion

Alan Dershowitz, The War Against the Jews Book

Alan Dershowitz promotes his new book, "The War Against the Jews," which he claims to have written and published in just 60 days following the October 7 attacks. He warns of a "fifth column" of Hamas supporters on American college campuses, linking Islamist and Marxist ideologies. The hosts express skepticism regarding the rapid timeline of the book's production.

alan dershowitz· harvard· fifth column· marxism· publishing

49:09 everything, why is, and people say why are crude oil prices, they haven't done anything with this Middle East action. They usually go up. No, they've gone down because we are gonna pump more oil out of this area. This is about oil. We're gonna rouse these Palestinians to hell with them. Get them out of there. If you, they won't pump the oil because they're too stupid. We'll do it. John C. DuBois, Pet Peeve Update. Woo! It's been a while. Been a while. Well, this explains why they can't bomb them. We can't really bomb it. That wouldn't be no good. And that may also explain why these Hamas guys are in Qatar. They know a bit about gas and oil. Yep. Okay. Yep. In fact, Qatar probably has dropped the ball on this deal too. Somebody dropped the ball somewhere because this

50:00 These oil fields were known, especially the gas field underneath the Gaza itself. Let's go to clip three. And as I say, it's coming to America, it's coming to Europe. Hamas is not going to stop. If it prevails in the Middle East, it's going to continue just the way al-Qaeda and other groups have continued. So we have to stop it in the interest of America. And when I say bomb, I mean like big bombs, like mother of all bombs, like bombs to exterminate. No, you can't do that. You can't do that. You just got to rouse them. You got to clear these people out. And here is the clip for... And Israel should be a bipartisan issue. All sides should support Israel without regard to what parties they belong to. And there's been a rise in popularity of Hamas in the United States as well. On October 8th, the day after these horrors that occurred on September 7th,

50:52 Students at Harvard supported Hamas. The National Lawyers Guild supported Hamas. I document all of this. I wrote a book right after the events in question. I started writing it on October 7th. The War Against the Jews, and in it I document how increased support for Hamas occurred among the hard left. The hard left has become the enemy of justice, of decency, of academia, and we have to continue our fight not only against Hamas, but against Hamas supporters in the United States that can become easily a fifth column. Remember in the 1970s when the weathermen started blowing up

51:32 universities trying to blow up Fort Dix. That's gonna happen here. We have a fifth column of hard-left Hamas supporters, many of them Muslim, many of them not Muslim, many of them hard-left kids, our friends' children are marching with Hamas. And that's why it's so dangerous to Americans and to the world and why we have to fight back. Ideologically, we have a combination on our college campuses and beyond of an Islamist and a Marxist ideology because they both support the same thing, the destruction of the Enlightenment, the destruction of Western culture and they are genocidal. Your book, The War Against the Jews, How to End Hamas Barbarism, let me tell you what's fascinating about your book among other things.

52:17 how you wrote it as quickly as you did, how you got it published as quickly as you did. And it's not only prescient, it's up to date on everything that's going on in this country, which is why I wanted to have you on. You can get this on Amazon.com, any major bookstore. Wow, so he banged that out in two months? And published. Anyone who's ever been in the publishing business knows that's not even close to being possible. He banged it out and has it edited, copyedited, designed, typeset, everything published in 60 days. Now the other thing, which is just a little side light here, which I'm starting to notice, and you start thinking about this as just an oil play, and you start looking back at all the complaining, all this fear mongering about, oh, the southern border, Hamas is coming up the southern border. Hamas, they've gone from this two-bit operation

CHAPTER 19 / 51 Discussion

Chris Cuomo, IDF Atrocity Footage Viewing

Chris Cuomo describes his experience viewing 47 minutes of footage compiled by the IDF showing the October 7 massacre. He suggests the footage justifies Israel's refusal to agree to a ceasefire. The hosts discuss the psychological impact of such media and question if the footage differs from what has already circulated on platforms like Telegram.

chris cuomo· idf· gaza· atrocity footage· telegram

53:16 Gaza to this world threat overnight and and we just lap it up in both sides especially the right the right wingers lap this stuff up yep but here's the thing that's been going on because I caught two of these and I have one of them I clipped one of them and this is the Cuomo Version I the first one I heard which I didn't clip which was on the Pierce Morgan show and one of his Correspondence was pretty much saying what Cuomo is saying here about they're starting to show the tapes of the atrocities oh Yes, yes, yes. Yes. No, I'm very concerned about this because of the of the wag the dog idea

54:02 Showing these tapes... Plan, plan. It's not an idea, it's a plan. Two and a half months after the event, two and a half months is a lot of time to do whatever you want to do. You can fake a moon landing if you give somebody two and a half months. Now you're talking. Welcome to the dark side. I'd liven you up so you'd put up with these clips. Let's listen to Hamas Cuomo revelation. Today has been a heavy day around here. Why? Many of us have seen portions of video of the October 7th massacre What Hamas terrorists did mostly to innocent Israelis? Now is he going to mention that that this was what the IDF compiled and they showed it to the international news media in a theater for 45 minutes they showed that and this is and you know I'm really starting to think you're onto something here because the thing that I noticed immediately it's all

55:03 Body cam it's all first-person shooter like stuff It's all it's all and you know which is easy to intermingle with with with game footage But there are things that you have not seen because they were never posted or made public and the reality of them Hits hard. Oh tell me he saw the the chopping off babies heads very hard I know because I was shown a good amount of it today. 47 minutes worth. That's a lot of one type of terror footage. And I now understand something that Hamas was doing and that Israel is responding to that I did not fully appreciate before. Now, I still think you should see what I saw.

55:54 But to be honest, the shock of today is a little fresh and I'm not as adamant about that as I was before I went to the viewing. So I'll try to convey what hit me about it. And at some point, it's always better if you get to see and decide for yourself. All right? But what I'm going to talk to you about is going to inform why Israel is not anxious to agree to what seems obvious to many, including the United States, its most powerful, influential ally. The bombing has to stop and before the end of the year. That's what President Biden is saying, suggesting deadlines and clearly criticizing Israel's tactics. And it is raising a question.

56:40 Could the United States withdraw support from its main ally in the Middle East? I'm always surprised how we as humans can put different levels of death into like, this is worse death than that death. Yes. It's a death. Whether you bomb someone to death or chop their head off to death or burn them to death, it's death. You know, it's just, it's death, it's not cool, no matter what. But this is where we work on the psyche of people. And the 47 minutes I believe is the entire IDF compendium.

57:23 I think it is, but you don't even know if it's the same one because they're showing it again to certain select journalists. I mean, is this any different from anything we've already seen on Telegram? Is it all of that stuff? I don't know. I have no idea. All I know is that this whole thing looks like we're being played. And we're being played by both sides. And the oil companies are somehow involved. And the military. That's all I can conclude. and they're good at it. And these protests, you have to wonder what's really triggering those, who's...

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Labor Unions, Pro-Palestine Protests in America

The United Auto Workers (UAW) and the United Electrical Workers (UEW) issue statements calling for a ceasefire in Gaza and expressing solidarity with Palestinian freedom. A union representative argues that the Israeli government is using the trauma of the Holocaust to justify the occupation. The hosts clarify the identity of the specific electrical workers' union involved.

uaw· united electrical workers· ceasefire· labor unions· israel

57:59 Is it environmental groups? Is it lefties? Now you're into my territory. Well, I have some protest clips from South Africa. They're protesting in Pakistan. They're protesting everywhere for no reason. Why are they protesting this Palestinian situation in South Africa? Allow me to start with some political protests as we saw The trade unions in America come together, the UAW, the United Auto Workers, who had a very successful strike, I would say, against the car manufacturers. And... Yeah, if you want to lose your job. And the UEW, the United Electrical Workers. And they had their statement. The world's seen enough slaughter and devastation... Wait, hold on a second.

58:57 I just want to stop you there. The what workers do I thought that you electrical workers are the IBEW. Who are these guys? I don't know. It said it's a UEW. Let me see. UEW. Maybe let's make sure I'm right. UEW. Hold on. UEW. Who is the UEW? W. University of Education, Winnetoba. No. Maybe I should add union. I'm just doing book of knowledge here. Let's see.

59:35 UAW, oh that's interesting. Does it even exist? The video literally had UEW and said United Electrical Workers. I don't know if such a... I was actually a short... met for a very short time as a member of the IBEW and that's a very famous huge union for electrical workers. United Electrical Radio Machine Workers? That's what you're talking about, right? With the IBEW, International Brotherhood of Electrical Organized Electricians. Now here I have United Electrical. That's the U-E.

1:00:13 I don't know. I'll have to go back. This clip is from Turkish radio television, so take it with that grain of salt. But these are union people who are in America. I'm pretty sure that's correct. The world's seen enough slaughter and devastation. Peace is the only path forward. This is the time for workers to leverage our labor power and electoral power to stand in uncompromising solidarity with the cause of Palestinian freedom. While we call for a ceasefire, We also condemn anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, anti-Arab racism, all of which are growing in our nation at this moment and must be stopped. The right-wing government of Israel is taking the lasting trauma

1:01:02 of Israeli Jews from the Holocaust and is using it to traumatize generations of Palestinians whose trauma will inevitably result in a new generation of resistance to occupation. We can't accept that. Now that guy sounds like a union worker. I like that guy. That guy was good. Yeah, actually he does. But union workers, we know who backs them. This is all political. This one though was kind of surprising. This is the Google employees. I am here in opposition to Israel's system of apartheid that curtails Palestinian rights and ends Palestinian lives. A system that my employer materially supports through its involvement with Project Nimbus. Calling on Google to drop the project.

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Google Employees, Project Nimbus Protest

Google employees protest the company's involvement in Project Nimbus, a cloud computing contract with the Israeli government. Protesters label the project as material support for a system of apartheid. The hosts note Israel's significance as a major technology and processor design hub for U.S. companies like Intel.

google· project nimbus· cloud computing· apartheid· israel

1:01:49 So that was big. It was a very big protest at Google and they're protesting Project Nimbus, which I looked up, which is a cloud computing project of the Israeli government. This is what Google does. They do cloud computing. Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, they're basically saying don't do business for Israel, which I found to be quite surprising Then we have and then you know after these two which is weird because Israel's also we should always remember That Israel is a tech hub for the United States. It's one of our development areas, especially in Haifa Oh, yeah, it's I mean Intel I'd say most of their processors are

1:02:43 Or every other processors designed from Israel Good point we're gonna ban Intel machines doodle-doo Intel outside watch Yahoo He's this is this is very political. He's got all the protests happening in his front yard Israel's military says it has accidentally killed three of the hostages kidnapped by Hamas during its October 7 terror attacks the three Israelis were reportedly shot after being Mistaken as the threat by soldiers pursuing Palestinian militants in Gaza City the loved ones of those kidnapped are demanding immediate return of the remaining hostages and

1:03:26 and say their safety must be prioritised over the fighting. News of the hostage killings galvanised demonstrators in Tel Aviv. Roads were blocked as hundreds demanded the safe return of those still in Gaza ten weeks after they were kidnapped. With much of the anger directed at Israel's Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu. I would say that he is responsible for everything that is happening, that happened and is still happening. He has blood, a lot of blood on his hands and he should resign now. There you go, they're calling for his head.

1:04:09 He must resign. It's all his fault. And he has a response. His response is a giant clock. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that the relentless bombing campaign could help push Hamas back to the negotiating table, a possibility he revealed as the head of the Israeli spy agency has been in talks with the Prime Minister of Qatar. Without the military pressure, we would not have been able to create a deal to release more than 100 hostages. And only further military pressure will lead to the return of all of our hostages. Netanyahu said the accidental killings of three Israeli hostages by the military, even as they had been waving a white flag, broke his heart and the nation's heart. But he committed to the military campaign in Gaza until, he said, Hamas was dismantled.

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Benjamin Netanyahu, Hostage Negotiations and Pressure

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu asserts that continued military pressure is the only way to secure the release of hostages held by Hamas. He addresses the accidental killing of three hostages by the IDF, calling it heartbreaking but necessary to continue the campaign. A Hamas official responds by mocking a countdown clock set up by families in Tel Aviv.

benjamin netanyahu· qatar· hostages· military pressure· tel aviv

1:03:26 and say their safety must be prioritised over the fighting. News of the hostage killings galvanised demonstrators in Tel Aviv. Roads were blocked as hundreds demanded the safe return of those still in Gaza ten weeks after they were kidnapped. With much of the anger directed at Israel's Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu. I would say that he is responsible for everything that is happening, that happened and is still happening. He has blood, a lot of blood on his hands and he should resign now. There you go, they're calling for his head.

1:04:09 He must resign. It's all his fault. And he has a response. His response is a giant clock. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that the relentless bombing campaign could help push Hamas back to the negotiating table, a possibility he revealed as the head of the Israeli spy agency has been in talks with the Prime Minister of Qatar. Without the military pressure, we would not have been able to create a deal to release more than 100 hostages. And only further military pressure will lead to the return of all of our hostages. Netanyahu said the accidental killings of three Israeli hostages by the military, even as they had been waving a white flag, broke his heart and the nation's heart. But he committed to the military campaign in Gaza until, he said, Hamas was dismantled.

1:05:01 In Tel Aviv, as the large clock continues to count the seconds since the hostages were taken by Hamas on October 7th, families turned up the heat on the government to get hostage talks back on track. And a senior member of Hamas weighed in, saying Saying the three hostage deaths at the hands of the Israeli military proved Israel's campaign was a strategic and technical failure. I tell those Israeli prisoners' relatives who set a clock in Tel Aviv counting the time until their loved ones come back, this clock of yours could go forever. If the Israelis want the hostages and the prisoners to come back alive, this won't happen unless there is a complete cessation of Israeli aggression

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RT News, IDF Investigation into Hostage Deaths

RT reports on the IDF investigation into the shooting of three Israeli hostages who were shirtless and waving a white flag. The report notes that one hostage shouted for help in Hebrew before being killed. The hosts discuss the rules of war and the lack of mainstream media coverage regarding potential war crimes committed by both sides.

rt news· idf· white flag· hostages· war crimes

1:05:45 There you go, big clock, big clock. That'll show you. She brought up the hostages that were shot. I have this funny clip from RT. Only a few of these outlets, I would say Democracy Now, RT and the others, discuss the details of these guys getting shot. This clip is hostages shot. Seems clear enough reported details from the ideas investigation have sparked a wave of discontent in Tel Aviv with new intensity They say that the hostages who were killed were actually waving a makeshift white flag in Later comments the IDF was quoted as saying that Hamas militants have previously used white flags to lure Israeli soldiers into ambushes now one of the killed hostages

1:06:34 was reportedly shouting for help in Hebrew right before he was shot dead. The IDF spokesman or spokesperson says that the army identified them as a threat, while Israel's army chief of general staff stated that the troops are responsible. Firing at the hostages was against the army's instructions for opening fire. It is prohibited to shoot at people holding a white flag and attempting to surrender, but the shooting was done during fighting and under pressure. The patients of the relatives of the families of the hostages are ending. They demand the Israeli government now to do more. And they are saying that Israeli Prime Minister and his war cabinet are not committed enough. And it is not their first priority to bring back the hostages, about 130 Israelis that are still in the captivity of the terrorists of Hamas. And some of them are elderly women, children, and their relatives of those hostages.

1:07:37 You know, I had to cut that off. Let me just say one thing. Your assertion here about the oil and gas, I would have said, yeah, maybe, because there's a lot offshore. Lebanon, we know about the Leviathan Field. We know that Israel had a big... Yeah, but that's north. No, I know. Bear with me. I'm agreeing with you. The reason why I think you're really onto something is because you and Horowitz, you track these prices. And everything we've seen in the past when there was a Middle East skirmish, oil prices go up. And it's just not the case.

1:08:13 That's going down. Yes. So actually going way down. That means that there is knowledge, there is knowledge that this is all for good. And how much longer do they have to bomb before there's just nobody left? I don't think it can be that much longer. I don't know. This is the tough part, but I'm going to go back to that clip I just played. So in other reports of these guys, they came out shirtless waving a white flag. Yeah. And now, and then the report in that RT report was interesting because they said, well, that white flag doesn't mean that much because they've been ambushed numerous times by Hamas guys waving a white flag and then they get ambushed. Isn't that a war crime?

1:08:53 Isn't that a war crime? And the other thing is that walking around in civilian, without even having uniforms, just as a military group amongst civilians, pretending to be civilians, isn't that a war crime? I love rules of war. I'm just saying they always bring it up that this is a war crime, that's a war crime, this is a war, but they never bring this stuff up when it comes to Hamas. They never say they're committing war crimes. Who's they? They talk about the massacre, the one day massacre. Who's they? The mainstream media. Oh, okay. And in fact, I would say the RT, Russian media, which is part of the mainstream, in my opinion. Wait a minute, this makes no sense. So the media, which we know is run by Jews, they're not bringing that up? The media is, yeah, the joke is, what kind of Jews are running the media? If they're not bringing that up.

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Rules of War, Gaza Gas Field History

The hosts discuss the absence of typical war narratives, such as the use of Captagon or Viagra, in the current conflict. They revisit the history of the Gaza Marine gas field, discovered by British Gas in 2000. The conversation touches on the technicalities of side-drilling and international law regarding resource extraction in disputed territories.

captagon· war crimes· british gas· gaza marine· side drilling

1:09:47 There's a bunch of, there's too many anomalies. It's rife. And so I'm more, every time, and these contradictory issues, like not saying, you know, oh, we can't confirm it, but we'll confirm this, we won't confirm that. Everything stinks to high heaven. We're also missing a lot of key elements of, of traditional war crimes. We're missing the Captegon. What is it? What is the cheap meth drug? We haven't had Hamas taken that. We haven't had them taking Viagra to rape. We're missing some key elements that are typical for this type of operation. So this is different. Now, if we're going to talk about gas fields, who are the people that would be vying for control of these gas fields?

1:10:44 And that's, I think, who's behind the protests, these left-wing protests. I think Russia's got something to do with this. Because Putin just did his... And I'm gonna say that for this reason. This is a stretch and I can't prove a word of it, of a supposition like this. But Putin just did his 10-hour long, his classic yearly press conference. None of this came up that I know of. It just seems that this is something you could chide people. Oh, you know, they're just after the oil and gas. I think they've got a lot to do with this. And all these Palestinian protests in the United States here and everybody falling in line and all these flags. Who's making these flags? I mean, the whole thing is just, it stinks. If that's true, if that's true, as part of the end times and revelation, if Russia is literally involved in this,

1:11:43 That's bad. That's really bad. That's the one thing you don't want to see is Russia being involved in this one. That's biblical. It's the gas. 1.4 trillion cubic feet natural gas under Gaza, not in the ocean. The oil's in the ocean. The gas is right there. Can't you side drill? Do you need to have, do you need to go straight down? Can't you just sit on the sidelines and drill from the side? There's a bunch of international law about that. Oh, we're back to law. By the way, I will mention this. The rules of war. This 1.4 trillion cubic feet, this is why this thing's been dragging on so long. It was in 2000 that two wells drilled by British gas discovered there's a reserve of 1.4 trillion cubic feet of natural gas under there.

1:12:42 Alright, well, so this would be the reason why we need to kill carefully. Kill carefully? Let's slow down on the big bombs. I think the whole idea is to roust them. They started at the north and they said you gotta get out of here and they, because there's tunnels. You gotta get out of there because the tunnels, there's all this, all these Command centers under the hospitals get out so they moved him south and they start bombing They're trying to get out and they're trying to get Egypt to accept them each. It's got to be part of this deal Well, but they're not Egypt has the border closed and oh Egypt has said no we've got nothing to do with this right But that the public at large doesn't know what the hell is going on this whole thing Stinks all right. Well. I think you've covered it

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South Africa, Pro-Palestine Protests and Colonialism

Pro-Palestine marches in South Africa are linked to the country's history of forced displacement and genocide. The hosts question the historical accuracy of these comparisons, citing the arrival of Afrikaners from Holland. They suggest that a new history is being constructed through these global protests.

south africa· reconciliation day· genocide· colonialism· afrikaners

1:13:33 I don't know, maybe. I think you have. I think I do want to play one more of these clips from South Africa. I just think they're too funny. OK. This is really South Africa protests. And in South Africa, Reconciliation Day has taken on a new form as hundreds there also gathered for a pro-Palestine march, knowing first-hand what genocide and forced displacement looks like. Local journalist Khatlegum Somi told us more on this in this report. Well, this doesn't make much sense if Russia's in on it.

1:14:09 I believe me, none of it makes sense. But I'm just that's why I can't prove anything about the Russians. But this this idea that this is this is part of the if I'm not mistaken, this wasn't South Africa popular first populated by the Afrikaners out of out of Holland. And there was nothing there except a few Bantu's. There was really no Force there was no genocide or forced evacuations back in this whenever that year was relevant colonialism That's what it is colonialism And so they're just gonna so we're lying a new history is what we're managing to do with these with these protests and and South Africa protesting about Palestine is ludicrous, but okay I if I don't want it to play anymore the clue. Oh goodness. I'm done mad you're mad

CHAPTER 26 / 51 Discussion

Civil War Movie, Tim Pool and Media Narratives

The hosts analyze the trailer for the upcoming film "Civil War" and a commentary by Tim Pool. They critique the narrative of a "national divorce" or an imminent American civil war as a manufactured talking point. Tim Pool is identified as part of a new "info maverick" elite that mirrors the messaging strategies of legacy media.

civil war movie· tim pool· a24· national divorce· culture war

1:14:58 Alright, well then let me bring it stateside for a moment. Because we are ratcheting up tension. We are, and it's all political, obviously. We just had the Obama connected movie about the cyber attack. The hackers were all gonna die. Throw in some racial stuff. But now, the M5M is coming out with a new one because we of course now need to talk about civil war. And I can tell you that there is not going to be a civil war in America. Just isn't. Do you have any feeling there's going to be an all-out civil war, John? Have you ever, ever considered that there's even an inkling of that happening?

1:15:45 No, it's an obvious talking point from the mainstream and Fox talking heads that have to talk about something and this is pretty exciting. And I'm going to add to that one of the info mavericks, the new M5M, I'm calling Tim Pool out as that. So there's a new movie, you might have seen the trailer, it's called Civil War. Yeah, it's called Civil War. I've seen the trailer. Yes, 15 states secede from the Union and create an army and they go to... and funny enough it's Texas and California because now of course... Yeah, that's the joke of it. In fact, I think, to be honest about it, I think that's the code.

1:16:25 That is not even within the realm of possibilities No, but till you do that as a wink wink nudge nudge to the people that are laughing up their sleeves about this movie Yes, but Tim pool is all in on it, and he's a part of it. It's the moment you've all been waiting for news Yeah You're playing a Tim pool clip. I am because he's part of this new info maverick elites He's a part of it. And he's proud of it. It's the moment you've all been waiting for. News dropped that a new film is coming out in 2024 called Civil War. What is it about? Oh man, you better believe I'm excited. It is a film about a civil war in the United States. And I gotta say, based on the trailer, I'm gonna go, meh. It is funny that this trailer drops and I get all these people tweeting at me being like, Tim Pool, what do you think? Yo,

1:17:20 Let me start by saying this. The reason the movie exists has nothing to do with me. The reason I talk about Civil War is the same reason someone made a movie about it. It's the same reason Stephen Marsh wrote a book about it. It's the same reason why numerous news outlets have written the same thing. We are all looking at an ever-expanding culture war, division among states, And many people advocating for national divorce, including elected members of Congress. So, you may watch my show and think Tim Pool talks about this a lot. But I gotta be honest, I probably talk about it less than many in the corporate press. As a large brand, several of these news outlets have way more articles about Civil War than videos I produce. I'm a single person. But if you only watch my show, or you mostly watch it, you'll see stories about Civil War pop up or the conversation happen.

1:18:16 Somebody invested a lot of money into making a movie about Civil War. Why? It's on the American mind. It's in the media. It's in books. It's coming from the mouths of Princeton professors. And that resulted in me saying, hey guys, I think this might be right. Bullshit! Get out of town. Can I mention something he did that Cuomo does too? Cuomo did it. He just did it. Where you ask a question and then throw the word why. Yeah. Oh yeah, oh they all do that. They all do that. You say, well, why do you think this is a why? You make a statement, you say why, and then you answer the question you asked yourself. Yeah. It's a lame... You may only watch my show. Come on. That was good, I liked that. Well he knows how to promote it. Well yeah, but he's promoting it. I have to say, I like his sound. You like his sound?

1:19:17 I do. I think it has a certain clarity. It's not like your sound, but I think he's got it. I think his sound is... You heathen. I really like his sound. I think he's got a nice sound for his voice. I think it's got an... I... What can I say? Yeah, you didn't have to say it at all, really. I didn't, you're right. It was completely unnecessary roughness. But you're the one that played the clip. You deserve it. But this is what's not good for anybody. This is the new mainstream is starting to show itself and it's like Twitter talking, it's led, you know, where the old mainstream has New York Times and the new mainstream has

1:20:06 Elon Musk, basically. And whatever he wants to have happen on X. And there's a lot, it's dumb. There's a lot of dumbness flooding through and people are thinking this is great, freedom of speech. These people, they know what they're talking about. Yeah, civil war. No, no, no, no. You're being played here. And Tim Pool may not be, he's not a conscious participant probably. But it's just this it's wrong. I know I was doing a lot of these guys are getting a memo and you know, okay, do this do that. Oh, no, no, no, no, like the script, you know, the script kiddies, or the kiddies. But I think the script readers on the mainstream, it's, you know, as I'm gonna go back, I'll say it again, what the New York Times was doing, and still does for mainstream m5m. That's what x and Musk is doing.

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US Senate, Sex Tape Scandal in Hearing Room

A scandal involving a sex tape filmed in Room 216 of the Hart Senate Office Building is discussed. The tape reportedly involves a staffer for a Democratic senator. The hosts mention the staffer's social media posts and the potential violation of Senate ethics rules, while noting the identifiable nature of the individuals involved.

us senate· hart senate office building· sex scandal· lindsey graham· staffer

1:20:59 for this new, these info mavericks. And it's not healthy. And I'm, we have to, we have to go against it. We got to call them out, man. Call them out. We got to call them out. That's what we got to do. And meanwhile, I will say that the best news that came off of X, which of course, we've got all the videos on X for this one. This is just mind-boggling. To attend the United States Senate is being rocked by a sex scandal. US Capitol Police are investigating after a sex tape surfaced online. It showed two men engaged in sex acts inside room 216 of the Hare Senate Office building. That's a

1:21:43 famous hearing room where US senators have grilled high profile presidential nominees. By the way, I like your script. Very funny, grilled, very funny. US senators have grilled high profile presidential nominees, including Supreme Court justices. It's unclear if the tape will be considered criminal conduct, but it may have violated Senate ethics rules. I mean, this was disgusting. And it's just posted everywhere. What is going on? How does this happen? It's the funniest thing I've seen for a while. And it is disgusting. And the one guy looks identifiable. Oh no, everyone knows who he is. He's known now. Okay, well who is he? Oh, I didn't even write it down. Are you kidding me?

1:22:38 Are you kidding me? I'm not going to write that down. He's and they know who's is from a Democrat senator's office. He's a staffer. There's another picture of him on whatever gay sex website. And he's naked in what he calls the work showers with his butt in the air. And he says, I'm waiting for Lindsey Graham. So I don't know, this is some very deep op that I'm... There's something going on, we don't know what it is. We'll figure it out if it continues, because these things are not that complicated. So meanwhile, you were talking about Taylor Swift, I hate to say it, but...

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Taylor Swift, Pennsylvania Resolution and Time Person of the Year

The Pennsylvania House of Representatives passes a resolution honoring Taylor Swift's birthday. The hosts discuss Swift's selection as Time Magazine's Person of the Year, noting that Time owner Reid Hoffman is a major Democratic donor. They suggest Swift is being positioned as a political operative for the 2024 election, a theory supported by Kara Swisher's early "prediction."

taylor swift· pennsylvania house· time magazine· reid hoffman· kara swisher

1:23:19 And now, back to Real News. And their consideration should not be a function of our government. I urge a no vote on this resolution and suggest we get back to actually governing. Thank you, Madam Speaker. House resolutions are legislation and apparently the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. So I rise to wish Taylor Swift and all my birthday twins a very happy birthday, especially representatives Madden and Major. I know I have had the best day with you and I don't know how it gets better than this. Everyone standing around us singing happy birthday to you. This resolution is a love story. So baby, let's just say yes.

1:24:21 The clerk will record the vote on the resolution. The yeas are 103, the nays are 100. The resolution is adopted. Fantastic. Fantastic. This is Pennsylvania. We should mention that we spotted the Taylor Swift op in 2009 or before. The clips came out of this. She was being highlighted as a superstar back in... 2008 maybe, 2008. And we had some clips of her, you know, they're talking about it. She was just a kid. I think she was 17 at the time. Noodling. And she's the next big thing. And she was, she was talking to the band about doodling, doodling, doodling, doodling, doodling. And she was showing them how to put together songs. We have the clip somewhere. I don't know where they are. And, um, Her music works. Okay. So I know a little bit about how, how music and the business works.

1:25:21 And her music is... you can't sing but five of her songs. I'm not talking about the Swifties who are all in and completely mind-controlled. Because that's what it is. But these work at a psychological level, as you mentioned earlier, four chords. These are all riffs and songs that have been done before. It's hits. As long as you repeat a song over and over again, it becomes a hit. That's just how it works. As long as it's not off-key and junk, you can make anything a hit as long as you repeat it. Spotify's, Algo's, everything. It's all and she'll be unleashed. The op has not yet been unleashed but it will be and it will be for the 2024 election. I was kind of skeptical of that thesis at the start but after listening to this guy discuss her music and some other things that are going on including her being

1:26:18 Man of the year for Time magazine I use that term because that's what it was originally You know there's a lot of people out there saying that Taylor Swift is a man, which is a funny meme Yeah, I don't buy it. No. I don't buy into it either and please don't email me don't email me with your proof and she And but the but this has been going on for a long time and she has been And her concerts and the meet up with Jason Kelsey or Travis Kelsey, sorry. From now on known as Jason Kelsey. It could be Jason. I think Jason's his brother. So that might not work out. But this is nothing new. Artists have been abused for political reasons forever.

1:27:08 Forever, you know and Hillary the last kind of attempt was Hillary with Beyonce. It didn't really work You know, but and I don't think this will work either to be honest about it. I don't think there's already many There's memes out there that are already contradicting the possibility the fact that Kara Swisher Was all in on Taylor Swift tells me it's an op. I She's all jacked about Taylor Swift. She predicted Taylor Swift would be... What's there to be jacked about? She's a... She predicted that Taylor Swift would be Time Magazine's Person of the Year, which means she was in on it because... Oh, you knew that's not a prediction you can make unless you know. That, let's face it, because Reid Hoffman of LinkedIn... No, is it LinkedIn or is it Salesforce?

1:27:58 No, Reid Hoffman I think is LinkedIn. Which I thought was sold to Microsoft. Anyway, he's a very rich, incredibly liberal dude. He owns Time Magazine. We know how these things go. You have a quick meeting. Who are we going to make Time Magazine Person of the Year? Well, let's call in to DC. Well, you'd also want to put some feelers. You want to put some test feelers out there. you have somebody, a stooge, a useful idiot come out and say, yeah, I gotta predict that Taylor Swift will be the first of the year. And if people don't throw stuff at you and call you an idiot, oh, that's not a bad idea, then okay, we'll go ahead with it. It could have been just a test marketing. All right, let's go to some more PSYOP because there's a really fun one. That seems to be all we talk about. Yes, there's a fun one.

1:28:49 And this is, and because we just talked about him, he had time to leave the shower and go to meet the press. Lindsey Graham, Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. And Trump had a, oh man, Trump had a horrible, horrible speech. He said some horrible, horrible things. Actually, before I go to him, I'll play, let me play the, It's the same topic. CBS faced the nation, Margaret Brennan with Chris Coons. Some of your fellow Democrats like Bob Menendez have said it's shameful and selling out migrants and asylum seekers. Why is he wrong?

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Donald Trump, Poisoning the Blood Rhetoric

Mainstream media outlets, including CBS and NBC, criticize Donald Trump for saying immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country." The Biden campaign and media commentators compare this language to Adolf Hitler's rhetoric in "Mein Kampf." Senator Chris Coons and Representative Tony Gonzales provide opposing views on the impact of this language on the immigration debate.

donald trump· poisoning the blood· margaret brennan· chris coons· hitler

1:27:58 No, Reid Hoffman I think is LinkedIn. Which I thought was sold to Microsoft. Anyway, he's a very rich, incredibly liberal dude. He owns Time Magazine. We know how these things go. You have a quick meeting. Who are we going to make Time Magazine Person of the Year? Well, let's call in to DC. Well, you'd also want to put some feelers. You want to put some test feelers out there. you have somebody, a stooge, a useful idiot come out and say, yeah, I gotta predict that Taylor Swift will be the first of the year. And if people don't throw stuff at you and call you an idiot, oh, that's not a bad idea, then okay, we'll go ahead with it. It could have been just a test marketing. All right, let's go to some more PSYOP because there's a really fun one. That seems to be all we talk about. Yes, there's a fun one.

1:28:49 And this is, and because we just talked about him, he had time to leave the shower and go to meet the press. Lindsey Graham, Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. And Trump had a, oh man, Trump had a horrible, horrible speech. He said some horrible, horrible things. Actually, before I go to him, I'll play, let me play the, It's the same topic. CBS faced the nation, Margaret Brennan with Chris Coons. Some of your fellow Democrats like Bob Menendez have said it's shameful and selling out migrants and asylum seekers. Why is he wrong?

1:29:30 I understand Senator Menendez's passion on the part of making sure that our immigration system is safe, legal and humane. But as I've often said in talking about the campaign for 24, President Biden needs to be compared not to the almighty, not to a perfect alternative, but to the actual alternative. And you just played for Congressman Gonzalez the stunning, hateful, fascist rhetoric of former President Trump when he's talking about poisoning the blood of our nation. The former president would bring in place not these modest changes to asylum policy, but radical and dramatic changes to immigration policy. We need to take seriously that there is a border security crisis and we need to take responsible steps that reflect our values. Okay, so this is the op. The op is poisoning the blood

1:30:21 of Americans. Let's go back with the previous guest. I want to bring up something that we discussed with our last guest, which was a remark from Donald Trump yesterday. And I want to play it here because I know you have endorsed Mr. Trump for president. They're poisoning the blood of our country. That's what they've done. They poison mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just the three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They're coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world. Do you endorse the sentiment that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country?

1:31:02 I think immigrants are the lifeblood of our country and it's important that we have it. The Republican from Texas. Immigrants. I've been a proponent of legal immigration and what this open border crisis has done is put a- Wait, hold on, stop. There is a, we have a process called legal immigration. We'll get to that. So now all of a sudden he's a proponent like it's something new? Now screw these guys. The point, we're still on the poisoning the blood. Okay, I'm sorry but this little- Poisoning the blood. I know, poisoning the board. And what this open border crisis has done is put legal immigrants to the back of the line. And it's encouraged illegal immigration. And it's created this rhetoric. And it's created this anger. And it's not just former President Trump. I mean, in my district, people are angry, Margaret. All throughout the country, people are angry and seeing all this chaos. It's why it's so important that the House, the Senate, and the president come together

1:31:57 and find a real solution, a national security package that takes care of our allies, also protects us at home, not only from foreign threats but also internal threats because the anger is very real. I realize that. But we need to acknowledge it. But that phrasing poisoning the blood is reminiscent of language the White House says Hitler used, which is why I wanted to get you to specifically respond to that. Yeah, this. So yes, so she only she what she has a script from the White House. Is that what she just told us? Yes. And this is the headline. The headline everywhere is Trump takes Trump, Donald Trump

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Mein Kampf, Fact-Checking the Poisoning Phrase

The hosts perform a PDF search of "Mein Kampf" to verify if the phrase "poisoning the blood" appears as cited by the media. They find references to "poisoning the public mind" and "poisoning of our sexual life" in the context of syphilis, but argue the specific phrase regarding national blood is a media fabrication or misinterpretation.

mein kampf· adolf hitler· poisoning the blood· fact check· pdf search

1:32:38 paraphrases Adolf Hitler by telling Raleigh that migrants are poisoning the blood of our country, phrase first appeared in Führer book Mein Kampf. So I got my copy out. Good. Of Mein Kampf. We all have copies of Mein Kampf. We all have a good read. It's like you got to read the Unabomber Manifesto. You should read the Bible. You should read Mein Kampf. You should read a lot of books. And there is no phrase poisoning the blood America or Germans the word poisoning the blood is what you're PDF search that's what I would do that's what I'm doing I'm doing a sir I'm having right now wholesale poisoning of the public mind poisoning of the public mind poisoning of our sexual blood poisoning of I'm sorry not sexual blood what do you say here let me go back sexual life

1:33:36 poisoning of the sound instincts. Poisoning of our sexual life? What the hell is he talking about? Well, let me go back and see what he was talking about. These are the doleful and tragic witnesses to the steadily increasing scourge that is poisoning our sexual... Well, in Hitler's days there was a lot of transgenderism, you know, a lot of gay stuff going on. That's what the cabaret is about. Yeah, the movie Cabaret. Yes. So their sufferings are the visible results of parental vice. So he's not saying that they're poisoning the blood, poisoning of the sound instincts of our people, poisoning the popular mind. So you use the word poisoning as though poison is a synonymous. Okay, I get it. So this is a lie. So they're full of shit is what you're telling us. This is a lie. It's a lie. It's a lie. And look, it wasn't that hard.

1:34:34 for me to bring up the PDF and do a little search. Wasn't hard. Here's a good morning America. Overnight, former President Donald Trump facing swift backlash for his attacks on immigrants. Former President Donald Trump campaigning in New Hampshire, sounding as confident as ever. What happened to the bounce? You know, with Nikki, they talk about the surge. Mocking his GOP primary opponents, who he called backstabbing establishment losers, for trailing in the polls. His speech peppered with personal insults. At one point calling New Hampshire's popular Republican governor a quote, spoiled brat. Governor Kristin Nunu this week endorsing Nikki Haley.

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New Hampshire Primary, Trump and Nikki Haley

Reports from New Hampshire cover Donald Trump's campaign speeches where he mocks his GOP rivals and Governor Chris Sununu. Governor Sununu has endorsed Nikki Haley, claiming she can deliver a Republican landslide. Ron DeSantis is also featured, brushing off the idea of serving as Trump's vice president.

new hampshire· nikki haley· chris sununu· ron desantis· gop primary

1:33:36 poisoning of the sound instincts. Poisoning of our sexual life? What the hell is he talking about? Well, let me go back and see what he was talking about. These are the doleful and tragic witnesses to the steadily increasing scourge that is poisoning our sexual... Well, in Hitler's days there was a lot of transgenderism, you know, a lot of gay stuff going on. That's what the cabaret is about. Yeah, the movie Cabaret. Yes. So their sufferings are the visible results of parental vice. So he's not saying that they're poisoning the blood, poisoning of the sound instincts of our people, poisoning the popular mind. So you use the word poisoning as though poison is a synonymous. Okay, I get it. So this is a lie. So they're full of shit is what you're telling us. This is a lie. It's a lie. It's a lie. And look, it wasn't that hard.

1:34:34 for me to bring up the PDF and do a little search. Wasn't hard. Here's a good morning America. Overnight, former President Donald Trump facing swift backlash for his attacks on immigrants. Former President Donald Trump campaigning in New Hampshire, sounding as confident as ever. What happened to the bounce? You know, with Nikki, they talk about the surge. Mocking his GOP primary opponents, who he called backstabbing establishment losers, for trailing in the polls. His speech peppered with personal insults. At one point calling New Hampshire's popular Republican governor a quote, spoiled brat. Governor Kristin Nunu this week endorsing Nikki Haley.

1:35:14 saying she can not only win his state, but deliver a Republican landslide. Beyond his rivals, Trump also upped his attacks on immigrants with highly offensive white nationalist rhetoric, evoking similar language to Nazi propaganda about the purity of this country's, quote, blood. We've been everybody first except America. Trump's crowd full of fervent fans. President Trump have your vote. Yes. Did you consider any of the other candidates? Not since. Also in the state this weekend, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, who brushed off any idea of joining a Trump ticket. You know, I'd rather be governor than vice president, no question. Adding he thinks Trump will try to delegitimize any results in early states if he does not win. If Trump loses, he will say it's stolen no matter what.

1:36:03 Okay, all right. So there it is. It's Nazism. And now everyone who's a Trump fan can't you can't be a supporter. You're a fan. You're a fan. You're a Nazi. Now we'll play the bit with Lindy Hop Greyhab who had a reasonably appropriate response. Before I let you go, I do want to get your reaction to something that former President Trump said overnight. He was in New Hampshire. He was talking about the need to keep immigrants out of this country. Here's what he said. I'll get your response. They're poisoning the blood of our country. That's what they've done. They poison mental institutions. Now, what do you think he means? Let's just stop for a second. Because he says that it's all you have to listen to the whole Trump thing says the poisoning the blood of our country. They're poisoning mental institutions. What exactly is he really talking about immigrants here? What does he mean? Well, I think and I think for one thing, he's

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Kristen Welker, Interview with Lindsey Graham

Kristen Welker interviews Senator Lindsey Graham on "Meet the Press," repeatedly pressing him on Donald Trump's "poisoning the blood" comments. Graham pivots to border security, fentanyl deaths, and the terrorist watch list, arguing that the Biden administration's focus on Trump's language is a losing strategy. The hosts criticize Welker's interviewing style.

kristen welker· lindsey graham· meet the press· fentanyl· border security

1:36:59 rambling. Yes. Because he does the rambling. What mental institutions? What's he talking about? Yeah. I think he's talking about immigrants coming in and kind of upsetting the mechanism of state. I think he says overloading is what I think he means. Overloading. I think that would be overloading. Overloading. But you know because the word is poisoning The blood and oh, they're not no the word race and the word blood obviously Nazi Aryan race white nationalists to keep immigrants out of this country. Here's what he said. I'll get your response

1:37:41 They're poisoning the blood of our country. That's what they've done. They poison mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just the three or four countries that we think about, but all over the world. They're coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world. The Biden campaign has accused former President Trump of, quote, parroting Adolf Hitler. Interesting. She said the White House, she says the Biden campaign. So she's a little more honest about it, but it's coming from the White House. What is your reaction? Are the president's comments representative of how you and other Republicans feel? 76% of the American people

1:38:22 not Donald Trump, believe the border is broken. They're worried about fentanyl coming over and killing their kids. But what about his language, Senator? Just that language, that poisoning the blood. I'm worried about an outcome. He is right. He had the border secured, the lowest in 40 years in December of 2020. To the Biden administration, you're talking about Donald Trump's language. As you said on the sidelines and allowed the country to be invaded, 172 people on the terrorist watch list have come on your watch. Fentanyl is killing more Americans than any time in history. Senator, just on the language, just on the language. Just get to the Nazi part. I want to get your response. You have endorsed former President Trump. Are you comfortable? Hold on, stop.

1:39:04 What show is this and who is that woman? This is Kristen Welker. This is the new... Oh, Welker. She's terrible. It's a new face to face to press nation, ladies. She doesn't listen. I never thought she... She had her own little show on NBC. They all have these test shows. People don't know it. NBC has like 10 news shows. They're all exactly the same with the same stories, but they're all done by different people. Tom Yamas has one. Yeah, but I think... Kristen Welkum had one. She happens to be black. She's more brown. She's multi-culti looking. But she was okay reading, you know, teleprompter. She was fine. But this is an example of someone who doesn't listen. Now her job is to

1:39:47 press this sentence that's why you hear going sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss She's like a cicada. And allowed the country to be invaded. 172 people on the terrorist watch list have come on your watch. Fentanyl is killing more Americans than any time in history. Senator, just on the language, just on the language though, I want to get your response. You have endorsed former President Trump. Are you comfortable? Do you endorse a Nazi? With him using words like that. Hitler! Man, this is so old. This is, hello 2015. We're talking about language.

1:40:46 I could care less what language people use as long as we get it right. I believe in legal immigration. I have no animosity toward people trying to come to our country. I have animosity against terrorists and against drug dealers, but I understand why people want to come to America. But we have chaos and we need to create order. If you think you're going to win the debate on illegal immigration by picking a line out of the Trump speech. Most Americans understand the game has to change, that we're under threat, that we're gonna get attacked, that our border's completely been obliterated. So if you're talking about the language Trump uses rather than trying to fix it, that's a losing strategy for the Biden administration.

1:41:27 I have the... Wow. Hey, he's good. Let's face it. Go Lindy. As much as we like to mock him. He's an old pro that is not going to be bullied by Kristen Welker, who's an idiot. No. It's time for a shower. Now, I have a minute of the Trump speech and I have an issue with his language because we know what the problem is. The problem is this administration has told the Department of Homeland Security Catch and release, let them go. It's policy. It is not, I repeat, it is not the wall. It is, you can, it doesn't matter how big the wall is or how high the fence is, if people can come in and they have either an app that says you're good to go, which is how they're coming in through airports. Yep. Or you can get a, I mean, you just, there's no way to put an entire big, beautiful wall that keeps everybody out. Once you get in,

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Border Policy, Trump and the Border Wall

Analysis of Donald Trump's border rhetoric focuses on his continued emphasis on the physical wall. The hosts argue that the real issue is the "catch and release" policy and the use of parole, rather than the lack of a barrier. They critique Trump for not addressing the administrative policies that allow migrants to stay in the country.

border wall· catch and release· rio grande· department of homeland security· brandon judd

1:42:26 If there's no repercussion, people will keep coming. I got a shot. And of course, our own people who now run the international office of immigration at the United Nations are you know giving the prepaid debit cards you got the buses the only you just got to cross the Rio Grande that last bit you'll get wet don't worry about it and you can see it people are showing up they've got clean clothes everything's good to go nice backpack backpack you just got to get in and once you're in it's a policy you're in your end it's it's about parole it's like the disco but Trump

1:43:05 See, this is my issue with Trump. I don't understand why he doesn't call out what it is. This actually, this speech, because that's the gross offense here. He's treating people like they're morons. We've got a lot of work to do. You know, when they let, I think the real number is 15, 16 million people into our country, when they do that, we've got a lot of work to do. They're poisoning the blood of our country. That's what they've done. They've poisoned mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in South America, not just the three or four countries that we think about, but all

1:43:40 All over the world they're coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world they're pouring into our country. Nobody's even looking at them, they just come in. The crime is going to be tremendous. The terrorism is going to be, terrorism is going to be, and we built a tremendous piece of the wall and then we're going to build more. And the election was rigged and we didn't do it, but I figured they'd just throw it up. Would have taken three weeks. It was all built. It was all ready to be just hoisted up. The exact wall that the Border Patrol, who are incredible, Brandon, Judd, and all of the people at Border Patrol, that's exactly what they designed. They had the anti-climb bars. They had everything.

1:44:20 And you know what they did? They didn't want it to go up. They sold it for five cents on the dollar. Can you believe it? All of that stuff. It's a very sad thing. It's just irrelevant. That's not the problem. People know they can come because you're good to go. You're not going to get in trouble. It's not the wall. I'm a little sick of that. He needs to change that message. Because just, you know, come on, there are smarter people in America. Well, at least he dropped a Mexico is going to pay for it. Yeah, that was also dumb. That was a loser. Meanwhile, something we missed in the National Defense Authorization Act

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NATO Withdrawal, NDAA and VP Speculation

The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) includes a provision preventing any president from withdrawing the U.S. from NATO without Senate approval. The hosts interpret this as a move to thwart future actions by Donald Trump. Brief speculation follows regarding Trump's potential vice presidential pick, mentioning Ben Carson and Elise Stefanik.

nato· ndaa· tim kaine· marco rubio· ben carson

1:44:57 I'm sure there's more than something. Oh, it's all coming out now. We missed a big one. Congress approving a bill preventing any U.S. president from withdrawing from NATO without approval from the Senate or an act of Congress. Measures included in the recently passed National Defense Authorization Act. Democratic Senator Tim Kaine and Republican Senator Marco Rubio spearheaded that bill, which marks Congress's commitment to the NATO alliance. Big miss. Okay, thanks Rubio. Wow, you know what that tells me? Trump's gonna be our next president. Yeah, well pretty sure part of the overall, you know, they're lining stuff up. Yeah, they're just a ward hit thwart. Yeah, that's the word I want to work his his his Okay, he's gonna be president we're gonna you know, we're gonna see oh by the way, I got a note from one of our producers who sent a dollar bill with it Oh

1:45:52 taking part in my game, which is who's picked the vice president, and I thought he had a good one. Ben Carson. No. No. I like the idea of Ben Carson. I'm staying with the... He was loyal to Trump. He never quit. He didn't backstab him. He didn't write a book. He's smart and he was once a presidential candidate himself. I like Ben Carson as a vice VP. He's not even on the list. Yet I'm sticking with Elise. I think she I think she's as she's the least yeah daughter No, the only way I can remember her name from New York. No the one who? Jacked up the panic. Yeah, the one who jacked up the university president. Yeah, she's still she's at Doing good. She's in play. She's in play. There's another thing that is kind of a now C-SPAN we have a

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C-SPAN, Ivana Trump Burial Conspiracy

A C-SPAN caller proposes a conspiracy theory that Donald Trump buried a 10-inch thick binder of raw Russian data in Ivana Trump's casket at his Bedminster golf course. In related news, former FBI official Charles McGonigal is sentenced to prison for working with a Russian oligarch. The hosts contrast the "dig her up" conspiracy with the actual FBI corruption case.

c-span· ivana trump· bedminster· russian documents· charles mcgonigal

1:46:47 One of our producers he loyally sends in every single between shows he sends in C-span callers and mostly... Which used to be my beat I might add. Well, you know, you don't treat people with kindness and you know, you block them and they go away. So they come to me. Of course, they also think I'm your assistant, your intern, you know. Tell John this. This is a new conspiracy launched from the Democrat line. I love this conspiracy. Next up, let's hear from Kathy in Satellite Beach, Florida on our Democratic line.

1:47:26 Yes, I have a question about the binder of raw Russian data that's been missing since Trump left office. It's about 10 inches thick, full of all the raw data that America has collected on sources and methods and everything. And the reason I bring it up is because I've always wondered why Ivana Trump's casket had 10 pallbearers when Princess Diana's lead-lined casket only had six. I mean that casket had to have been hugely heavy and with all the missing boxes of secret documents that everybody keeps talking about, I think that they need to go to the golf course where Trump had her buried and just take a look-see. Just out of curiosity I want to know where that binder of raw Russian, excuse me, information went.

1:48:30 Okay, Alton is- I love it! Dig her up! This is the best. Trump buried- They're gonna do it too eventually, you watch. Oh, it's coming. Trump, this is it. Trump buried the Russian documents that show all the collusion, buried it with Ivanka. Dig her up. Meanwhile, the real news is this. Former top FBI counterintelligence official faces five years in prison after pleading guilty to working with a Russian oligarchy once investigated. Charles McConnell admitted he accepted more than $17,000 from Oleg Diproska. McConnell led the FBI's counterintelligence division between 2016 and 2018. $17,000? Are you kidding me?

1:49:22 That's nothing. I know. From an oligarch? I know. But you know, this guy was a part of Operation Crossfire. This guy was a part of it. The guys who were accusing Trump of being in collusion. Yeah, he was in collusion. This guy was completely in collusion. Some people think he's basically just a Russian spy and that was 17,000 is a bullshit number anyway. Oh, I mean, but all that's in there. so that we don't talk about it. Go away, go away news. Hey, dig up, dig her up. That's the news. You watch, dig her up. It's gonna be a chant. Dig her up. Dig her up. Dig her up. Yeah. Alright, NPR is very upset. I love this lady.

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NPR, Media Failure in Trump Coverage

NPR's Aisha Roscoe discusses the media's struggle to cover Donald Trump effectively. The segment features Governor Chris Christie warning about a second Trump term being focused on "retribution." The hosts mock the idea of journalists being "haunted" by their coverage and the claim that Trump received $2 billion in free media in 2016.

npr· aisha roscoe· chris christie· retribution· journalism

1:50:14 I love this lady. She's very upset about how the media is covering Trump. They're not doing it right. You're doing it all wrong. This has been a theme amongst journalists that we're not doing it, we're doing it all wrong. We're going to help him win again. I'm Aisha Roscoe and this is a Sunday Story. In the fourth and final Republican debate on December 6th, Governor Chris Christie addressed the elephant in the room. He warned Americans of what may come if Donald Trump gets re-elected president. Let me make it clear, his conduct is unacceptable, he's unfit, and be careful of what you're gonna get. If you ever got another Donald Trump term, he's letting you know, I am your retribution. Thank you. He will only be, Elizabeth, he will only be his own retribution. He doesn't care for the American people, it's Donald Trump first.

1:51:07 How to cover Trump is a... I think you're right. I think that was a dig by saying the elephant in the room for Chris Christie. I think that was one of those intellectual jokes. Yeah, one of those little journalistic puns, those little jokes that they slip in now and again. That's fat shame. Retribution. He doesn't care for the American people. It's Donald Trump's first... And by the way, hold on. What was the... Was there no elephant in the room? The Trump wasn't there, that was the elephant in the room. Well that's an elephant not in the room. How to cover Trump is a question that's haunted the media since Trump's surprise win in 2016. Haunted the media? Oh the media is haunted. We're journalists, we're trained at J-School, we're haunted. We don't know how to do it.

1:51:51 a 2018 study showed that- Hold on a second. Let's stop. I need to do this. No, I love it. I love it when you do this. But it just seems to me that this is like a rebuke of journalism. Why should they be haunted about anything? They're reporters. They're supposed to report the news, not be in the news. They're not supposed to be the news. They shouldn't be haunted by the results of their reporting. Perhaps you should take another J-School course and see what they're teaching these journalists. I'll bet you they're teaching something I'm unfamiliar with. How to cover Trump is a question that's haunted the media since Trump's surprise win in 2016. Surprise win? A 2018 study showed that Trump received around $2 billion in free media and got substantially more coverage than his opponents aiding his campaign.

1:52:42 Now Trump is dominating headlines again as he faces federal indictments and civil lawsuits while campaigning at the same time. This is a great edit. I did not do this, but they pan left and right with all of his crazy talk. I'm making every executive branch employee fireable by the president. As I said, I will keep men out of women's sports and I will sign a law prohibiting child sexual mutilation. We will root out the The communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country will carry out the largest domestic deportation operation in American history. In my other job as host of Weekend Edition Sunday, I did an interview recently that really made me think about Trump and how we cover him as journalists.

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The Atlantic, Trump Rhetoric and Media Failures

A writer for The Atlantic argues that the media is failing to convey the "scale of the threat" posed by Donald Trump's rhetoric. He cites Trump's comments about shooting shoplifters and his Truth Social posts regarding General Mark Milley. The hosts argue that the writer is encouraging the media to be even more partisan.

the atlantic· truth social· mark milley· paul pelosi· extrajudicial killing

1:53:43 I wanted to share it with you. As journalist, you're missing an S darling. Journalist. I wanted to share it with you. I spoke with two people who believe the media is failing in the way it's reporting on Trump and warn these failures put our democracy at risk. Democracy? Our democracy got destroyed with the Patriot Act lady. Here we go. This was a 25 minute program, I just pulled two other clips. Here's a douche who writes for the Atlantic and this is his view of what we should do. Yeah, I've got a pretty pessimistic outlook on this because I think that what's happening with Trump is that a lot of the things that he's doing

1:54:26 Both in terms of what he's posting on Truth Social, his social media network, and what he's saying at rallies is not cutting through to the ordinary voter. And that's important because some of the stuff he's saying is the most extreme rhetoric of any presidential candidate. it in the last four or five, six decades. So I'll give you an example of this. There was a rally in October where Trump floated the idea of shooting shoplifters on site. So anyone who commits a petty crime gets killed. It's an extrajudicial killing that the leading contender for the Republican nomination floated. And right after that, he floated the idea of joking about Paul Pelosi being nearly beaten to death with a hammer.

1:55:03 And there was no coverage of this for three days in the New York Times, at which point it appeared on page 14. So here he is complaining about the broken elite messaging system, the New York Times. And New York Times is doing it wrong. And I think what the press is doing is it's thinking people know Trump says crazy stuff lots of the time. And that's fine, but it's still very important that they see it because there's another bit of rhetoric he recently posted on Truth Social where he effectively implied that the former top general of the United States, Mark Milley, deserved to be executed. And that is one of the most unbelievable things that a presidential candidate could say, one of the most extreme things.

1:55:41 It was not covered in most of the press and I think that is a real failing where we're not Understanding the scale of the threat that Trump poses because it's been baked in as sort of what I call the banality of crazy that it's so routine that it's not generating headlines. This guy is giving them the exact wrong advice I agree. He's saying the opposite of what should be done. He wants to go back to just giving Trump whatever crazy thing Trump says. Let's push it. This is so dumb. Okay, then we have a Douchette from The Guardian. So I think that newsroom leaders need to be and maybe they're doing this you know maybe some newsroom leaders leaders is that called the editor is it called the editor are you like yes so i think that newsroom leaders need to be and maybe they're doing this you know maybe some of them are doing it and maybe they're doing it a little but i think they need to get together with their politics staffs and their staffs in general and talk about

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The Guardian, Rethinking Newsroom Partisanship

A columnist for The Guardian calls for newsrooms to rethink their approach to "covering both sides" and to be more explicit about the consequences of the 2024 election. The hosts discuss the history of partisan journalism and the migration of liberal journalists to platforms like Mastodon. They conclude that the current media system is broken and driven by dopamine-seeking "quick hits."

the guardian· newsrooms· partisanship· mastodon· tiktok

1:56:43 What I wrote my column about we we the public is not getting the importance of this election They're not getting what the stakes and the consequences are they don't get it. You're stupid. You don't get it people You don't understand you don't get it. You're not listening to us. We've got a ratchet up. You don't get it You don't get it. How can we go about? How can we go about changing that? How can we get across the extreme nature of this? By just reporting. And you know, it has to do with emphasis. It has to do with where you put stories, what kind of articles you do, what the headlines are. But we're still sort of stuck in an old way of covering both sides, trying very hard to make sure that no one ever says that we're partisan. Time to be partisan.

1:57:32 It calls for a rethinking in newsrooms of how to communicate to our readers and viewers. I'd like to comment on this. Yes, please. Now historically, reporting was always partisan. Yes. That's why you had like a newspaper in Santa Rosa, the Press Democrat. The Oakland Tribune used to be a Republican newspaper. There's one up in New Hampshire that's notoriously a Republican, or was a notoriously Republican newsletter, or newspaper, I'm sorry, newsletter, newspaper. And these newspapers were very partisan and they took a perspective and a point of view, and that's why journalism schools appeared because it was getting to the point where somebody decided that's not a good thing. So they went to

1:58:22 You know, teaching people how to do that. It has to have three people quoted. You got to have both sides of the story. You got to do this. You got to do that. And it just naturally gravitates because I can. find mastodon tweets, or toots, whatever they're called, of all kinds of journalists that have all scampered away from Twitter and they've gone to their own little hovels and they're all talking about, we can't let Trump win, we have to do this, we have to do that. And if you remember that journos, journos, little room or, I don't know, used group, whatever the hell it was, it was a meetup space we talked about on the show back in the day.

1:59:02 where the Democrat journalists would all get together and grouse. That was supposed to be eliminated. It gravitates right back toward it. And there is nobody that's on the Republican side except for Fox News. And they're not even good Republicans, they're phonies. They're run by Democrats. But the whole system's broken. It doesn't work anymore. People like this. They want TikTok. They want quick hits. They want to see this. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. We're all highly malleable. Give me some dopamine. Give me something. I want to own the libs. I'm going to post some memes. I know. I see it. This is what's happening. This is what's happening. People are out of control.

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Electoral College, Bill and Hillary Clinton Critique

Bill and Hillary Clinton express their support for the direct election of the president and the abolition of the Electoral College. Bill Clinton links the system's origins to slavery and the protection of conservative states. The hosts provide a counter-argument, stating the system was designed to prevent overpopulated, corrupt states from dominating smaller ones.

electoral college· bill clinton· hillary clinton· popular vote· constitutional law

1:59:49 By the way, there's so much talk about Trump, you know, if he is re-elected, oh my goodness. I mean that will be the end of democracy. The end of the world as we know it. No, democracy. Where democracy is done. Of course we have a republic and we have a very interesting system. Yes, it's a republic, let's get that straight. We have a very interesting system when it comes to the presidential election, which is the electoral college. And we've discussed this many times on the show. I think it's, I'll play this clip of Bill and Hillary Clinton, and then we should probably just run through one more time what the Electoral College is for, why it was put in place, and why it is important. But first let's listen to those bastions of democracy, Bill and Hillary Clinton. You know what's funny?

2:00:42 I saw them on stage together, this is at a Bloomberg conference about a month and a half ago. And it took me like 20 minutes before I remembered, oh yeah, they're married. It was just like two separate people. I don't even connect them as a couple anymore. It's very weird. It starts off with Bill. Do you think direct election of the president, popular vote, would be preferable to the electoral college method? We adopted the electoral college when we were 13 states. But it also helped to load up the electoral votes of the southern states that had slaves. Now we know that

2:01:25 the effect of the electoral college is to give about, oh, 36 extra votes to the most culturally conservative and farthest right American states. And I have no objection to them voting. I want them all to vote. I would not, unlike some of them, I'd never try to make it harder for them to vote. I'd make it easier for them to vote. I want the votes counted and I want them all to count, but I just don't think You can justify that today. I assume you prefer direct election as well. Oh, I definitely prefer direct election. So they're anti-constitutionalists. Yeah. And I think we should, because they did a very poor job. They said, oh, it's because, you know, the Republicans or, you know, the conservative states, of course, you know, that's switched.

2:02:19 But no, it's the states in the South, those racists, they had slaves and they were going to win because they counted the slaves. That's why it was the Electoral College. Is that the truth, our constitutional expert John C. Dvorak? I mean, you can make that, I think that argument can be made, but I don't think that's the real argument that the reason the Electoral College was put together, it was to prevent the big states, the overpopulated states, the New Yorks. There's nobody liked at the time and the Phillies, the New Yorkers were hated because they were Dutch, I think is the reason. You gotta hate those guys. And it was so they didn't run roughshod over the little states like Rhode Island and Delaware and Vermont and the rest of them. So they tried to create an even footing

2:03:04 Because it was so easy because the big states were corrupt. They had the corrupt policies that corrupt politicians and the idea was, you know, once in a while you're going to get a situation where the majority of people are going to vote for the corrupt guy. And this will keep that from from that person from getting an office. Hillary being the best example of that recently. Yes, and exactly. It was a an escape hatch in case some nut job was about to come to power. Yeah, I think that rationale is more accurate than the other one. And the other thing is, and I've written this up and you can go to dvorak.substack.com and read my article about this. I've said that over time, the electoral college has to go because it does not fairly distribute advertising dollars throughout the country.

2:04:00 during presidential elections. The only states to get the advertising dollars are the swing states that are going to determine who wins in the electoral college. And this is unfair to the media outlets in California and places like New York that don't get any money because they're going to vote Democrat. So why are we going to give them any money to do advertising? So we, in fact, when you're out here, You see during the presidential campaigning you see no no ads. There's like breath like there's not even an event and so they so because of that I think that the media will continue to promote the idea of abolishing it Yes, but that's a completely that's a Outlier position that I've taken and I still believe it. No, I'm with you. I like that Explanation that's why the media keeps promoting it

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World War II Veterans, VA Healthcare Update

A "boots on the ground" report reveals that the Biden administration's announcement of free nursing home care for all World War II veterans was misleading. The VA later updated the eligibility requirements to include only those with specific service-connected disabilities. The hosts criticize the administration for making promises to the remaining 250,000 veterans that are not being fully honored.

veterans affairs· world war ii· nursing home care· biden administration· boots on the ground

2:04:55 Because otherwise why would they care? You had a clip this past Veterans Day, actually it was a twofer clip. I mean it was President Biden speaking on Veterans Day. Do you remember these clips? If I hear him, I probably would. You'll remember this one, this 44 second clip, you'll remember it. The Biden administration on Friday announcing three steps to improve the life of America's veterans ahead of Saturday's Veterans Day. First, it's expanding no cost health care to all living World War II veterans. Eligible vets will be able to claim those benefits starting this month. This includes nursing home care. Some veterans who suffer from Parkinson's disease will also be eligible for free health care. So this report, and the president did say that, he said we will have free care for World War II veterans. There's only about 250,000 of them left. Amazing it's that many.

2:05:55 And we got a boots on the ground report from one of our producers, who says, a few weeks ago, my family was excited to hear on your show that President Biden had announced free nursing home care for all World War II veterans. My wife's 96-year-old grandfather is a World War II veteran who landed in Nagasaki about two weeks after the bomb dropped. He is currently in a facility that's not so great, and we were excited at the prospect of him moving into better care despite his limited funds. After he was put on a wait list for the local five-star VA facility, I decided to do more research. That's when I found out it's all a lie. The VA secretly updated the announcement to say that only certain World War II veterans were eligible. My wife's grandfather is not one of them. So they indeed, they updated this to say

2:06:47 Update to the release. Nursing home care is free for nearly all World War II veterans who were eligible for nursing home services at VA, including one, anyone in need of such care for a service-connected disability, and two, anyone in need of such care who also has a service-connected disability rated at 70% or more. That is such, I mean, that's low. Even for Biden, that's low. I mean, come on, it's a quarter of a million dudes and you're gonna do that? I thought that was just... That's disgusting. It broke my heart. It broke my heart. Well, disgusting. And how long is it gonna be? A year? Two years? Really? How long is it gonna last?

2:07:41 So I just, I was. This is the sort of thing that we're getting from these guys and that's why I brought it, bitched and moaned earlier about the fact that we're pumping more oil than ever before and making it seem that oh no, no, we're very environmentally conscious. Oh yeah, the COP 28, blah, blah, blah. And then Trump. Blah, blah, blah is right. Who doesn't, blah, blah, blah. And so Trump, you know, is well I'm gonna drill, drill, drill. That's what we're doing but nobody, Democrats are just terrible people. It's a terrible team. They may be okay people, but they're just in a bad environment. You gotta love them. You can't just dig her up! That's all I gotta say. Dig her up! That's what I mean. That's a good example.

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The View, Hunter Biden Corruption Defense

Anna Navarro on "The View" defends Joe Biden, claiming there is no evidence linking him to Hunter Biden's business dealings. She argues that Hunter's only "crime" was being a loving son and that influence peddling is common in Washington. The hosts highlight the moment Navarro suggests people at the table have also peddled their names.

the view· hunter biden· anna navarro· influence peddling· james comer

2:08:30 Before we take the break, a fun little moment happened on The View. It's always funny when these things take place. Of course, they are running interference for President Biden. You know, he's just a good dad. He just has a crappy son. Come on, stop already. And Anna Navarro, well, she drops a canard of epic proportions. Hunter Biden, yes, I think he's engaged in corruption. I do think that the charges against him by the Department of Justice are very serious. I have not seen one shred of evidence that it's tied to Joe Biden. That's what it comes down to to me. And by the way, someone who's no Joe Biden fan, Steve Doocy on Fox News has been hammering James Comer. Give me one thing, one piece of evidence, otherwise it's a waste of taxpayer dollars. Joe Biden's crime is being Hunter Biden's father and being Hunter Biden's very loving father, very good father, very supportive father. A good father.

2:09:21 Did hunter Biden influence pedal on his last name? Yes, he did. So did half of Washington people sitting at this table did it? Did Joe a dead hunter Biden Did hunter Biden cheat on his taxes. Yes, he did so actually who at this table pedaled on their last I did not talking about currently Oh are

2:10:03 on Joe Biden's last name? Yes, he did. That's not a crime. Did Hunter Biden cheat on his taxes? Yes, he did. He has admitted it. He paid it back. He paid it back with $600,000 penalty. I just love it when the truth comes out. It always wants to come out. Influence peddlers, those ladies! Yeah. I love the use of the overtime horn or whatever that is. It's the Ooga horn. Game over to hockey game. I love it. And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage saying the morning to you the man who put two C's in the obesogenic environment. Ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. Demer!

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Value for Value, Modern Podcast Apps and Music

The hosts discuss the "Value for Value" model and the growth of modern podcast apps that allow for direct listener support. They mention musicians like Ainsley Costello moving to these platforms to avoid the restrictions of legacy systems like Spotify. Listeners are encouraged to contribute time, talent, or treasure to the show.

value for value· spotify· podcasting 2.0· ainsley costello· darren o'neill

2:10:47 In the morning you mr. Adam Curry in the morning all ships to see boots on the ground feeding the air subs in the one of the dames and knights out there They're so tiny it's hard to count them all I count 2037 trolls today in the troll room. How is that? Is that that's a 400 low? Yeah, you say that but this just get ready to the it's the new normal. I Just just I mean how long I think it's the time that we do the count. I think people do Slowly move away. They move away on to what bigger and better things

2:11:28 to maybe eat breakfast or take a drive, go to the store, do some shopping. It's Christmas shopping season. Everyone's out shopping. The traffic is jammed up. People are driving around like maniacs. They're shopping, they're shopping, shopping, shopping. You think the economy is great. There's nothing wrong. There's nothing going on. But people must be loading up their credit cards. How can it be anything else? Who has money? The prices are too high. The rent's too high. It's impossible. It's impossible. Anyway, we do love our trolls. This is a great opportunity for you to let it all hang out. Just join us live if you can on show days, Thursdays and Sundays. We do it live. We start at...

2:12:12 1 p.m. is Central Time, that's 2 Eastern, and you can go to trollroom.io. It's really, it's just a simple old chat room. It's an IRC-based chat room. You can stay logged in all the time. A lot of people do that because, of course, no agenda stream rolls out and people are responding to that, so we have lots of live shows. Darren O'Neill does the show. Did you listen to Darren's show this morning? No, I missed it today. How was it? Was it terrible as usual? Yeah, it was just so bad. He didn't play any Taylor Swift. So, no. Darren, he's got all these drops of you saying, Darren O'Neill sucks. He's got all that stuff. He's using those? Oh yeah. Darren O'Neill is the best.

2:13:03 Oh, he did play Taylor Swift, apparently. Ah, he stinks. So yeah, go to trollroom.io or noagendastream.com or if you're using one of those swanky modern podcast apps, it'll let you know when we go live. The new podcast apps are great. First of all, if you get thrown off, if any of your favorite podcasts get thrown off of one of the legacy apps, I'm talking Apple. Which will happen. You know that Spotify kicks three, four, five shows a day off of Spotify? But people don't really why what was there? What's their rationale for this? Dangerous speech. I don't know. They don't really give reasons. But there's, you know, there's a whole system because if you have most podcast hosting companies, you can automatically when you post it, you know, even when you start your account, it'll set you up on Spotify. They have an agreement. And excuse me, when Spotify kicks someone off,

2:14:02 then they automatically ping the podcast hosting company and say, we kicked these guys off. But they don't give a reason. They just tell them so that when people call up the hosting company and say, hey, I'm not on Spotify, that they can say, yeah, they kicked you off and you have to take it up with them. It's horrible, really. It's horrible. So that happens. I'll tell you something that's not horrible. The new No Agenda artwork site is unbelievable. Is it up? Yep. You're a little early. I'm not quite done with the promotion yet. No, sorry. I'm just... You're excited. I understand. I'm jacked up. I understand. Me too. So besides the fact that when we post the show, any show, you'll be notified within 90 seconds the show is good to go. You know, on some of these legacy apps, it takes hours, hours before you find out, before they're updated. Now, one other thing I want to mention,

2:15:01 Value for value, which we're going to talk about in a minute, has this concept that we've been running for 16 years, has what? What? What? You went, huh? Oh, yeah. No, I was looking at a piece and looked at the artist. Oh, you're not even listening to me. OK, I'm sorry. No, I'm listening. You don't have to. I'm sorry that I'm so close to the mic that I I exhaled and it caught your attention. I'll wake up. Value for value has taken off so big that now people are running away from Spotify and they're putting their music up.

2:15:41 on the podcast apps that are value for value, the modern podcast apps. No, that's a good idea. Yes. Yes, because it's no different from a podcast. An album, you've got to feed, you put in instead of episodes, it's tracks. And because we have this live system that we've been pioneering, we've been pioneering for a long time, but now it works in all the modern apps. December 20th, December 21st, live from Minneapolis, from First Avenue, that's Prince's old venue. Ainsley Costello and just loud are gonna do a live concert value for value video and audio Modern podcast apps calm or I think Ainsley Costello calm you can learn more about it It's I mean, it's gonna be fantastic because it's completely independent of all these stupid legacy systems And I'm very that's a plus. Yeah. Well that it's it's it is the totally the feature. I

2:16:33 So now we're talking about value for value. Yes, indeed, Time Talent Treasure, you can contribute to this show in many ways. You heard of Boots on the Ground Report. That is a great way to support us. The 3x3, many clips are sent to us by the Clip Custodian, the Clip Collector. Dave Ackerman sends me a daily news briefing almost. We've got Sarah in the UK who sends me compendiums. This is all very helpful. And please, And please, whenever you think, they probably already know this. No, no, we probably don't. I'd rather delete 15 emails that are doubles instead of missing something. So, you know, please continue to reach out to us. People do websites. Let's talk about it right now.

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No Agenda Art Generator, AI in Art

The No Agenda Art Generator website experienced a hardware crash but is being restored by Paul Couture. The hosts discuss the use of AI in creating show artwork, specifically praising a piece by Nessworks. They acknowledge that while AI may have negative societal impacts, it has become a useful utility for the show's artists.

no agenda art· ai art· nessworks· paul couture· hardware crash

2:17:17 Our artists, our artists have been creating artwork, a new one for every single show for 12, 13 years. I can't remember how long it's been going on. It's been going on for a long time and we love using fresh artwork, it gives people something to talk about, it looks great on social media, it looks great just everywhere. It's in your podcast app, like, oh what is that? Oh this is different. Oh it's no agenda of course. So we want to thank Nessworks for the artwork for episode 1616, we titled that one Buying Quiet. And this was really the best one that there was, I think. We looked at a couple of pieces. This is the AI winter is coming. As I proclaim the AI winter is on the way. We had other pieces. I'm going now to noagendaartgenerator.com. This is... It's taking a long time to load, John.

2:18:12 This is the brand new, revamped after it was down, crashed and destroyed for several weeks. It's still not loading for me. Well, that's because I probably might one you get to get out one other users me one person at a time One person at a time. Well, he says no it's still working out some bugs. Mm-hmm And then he's got some money. It's not finished, but it's just a good new Yes, sir. Paul couture who has been maintaining this thing for over a decade is We had some horrible hardware crash. What I'm thinking right now is that probably everyone went to knowgendartgenerator.com. Oh yes, because I said it. Because you mentioned it. They got flooded. Yeah. So yeah, it makes sense. So it's still not loading for me. So I can't really talk about any of the artwork. You're going to have to walk me through what was there until it loads for me.

2:19:04 Well, he doesn't have those pieces up. Ah, shoot. I got a gateway timeout. Oh. Oh, crap. Well, he doesn't have those pieces up. From last show well, then we could just say everything sucked, but this one from Ness works. I know they were all there were some good pieces I thought all the pieces were usable, but Ness works I thought was the best because it just had everything we wanted and it was AI obviously no it was totally AI everything you know we were kind of resigned even though I know you were gonna reject all AI forever. It's not possible. It's not possible. And no, that's the point. It's not possible. It's become a pretty good utility. It's futile. It's become a pretty good tool for artists who know how to use it. And that's really at the end of the day. And I said it on purpose. AI will only benefit the no agenda show. It will do nothing for humanity. It'll do nothing for business. It'll do nothing for your spam.

2:20:05 It'll only benefit the no agenda artists. That's the whole point and I'm happy that there's a hundred billion dollar industry just working for us. Good to know. So I'm still trying I ended up with a gateway timeout while looking at these artworks. We crashed it. Well, the trolls are saying, oh, oops. Yeah, I'm guilty of that. Yeah, we crashed it. Okay, we crashed it. It was my fault for saying anything. I wasn't thinking clearly. Yeah, I know what probably happened because he's still copying over. like 300 gigabytes of artwork and that's probably taxing the system. So while we keep reloading that, trolls, please stop. Why don't we go to the final T of the trifecta which is treasure and thank our executive and associate executive producers. Shortlist today but we are very happy to

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Executive Producer Credits, Mike Roch and Ben Carson

The hosts read donations from executive producers, including a notable contribution from "Mike Roch." They discuss the validity of No Agenda credits on resumes and LinkedIn. A brief mention is made of Topo Chico mineral water and the return of Kirkland Bordeaux at Costco.

mike roch· ben carson· elise stefanik· topo chico· executive producers

2:20:58 to acknowledge our first executive producer Mike Roch. Mike Roch! I said it! Now Mike Roch, by the way, we were... those... he... Say it faster! He's getting a PhD as late because... but he's... this was long in coming. I just love that his name is Mike Roch. I mean, really? On the bank check, his name is Mike Roch. Wow. So we're looking at Jay and I are looking and said, holy mackerel. I said his parents must have been a couple of characters. Funny. Hey, I know my last name is Roch. Let's call him Mike.

2:21:40 Dr. Sir Mike Crotch. You can just imagine what the hunch family thinks. Powder Springs, Georgia and he comes in with two checks, one boobs 800.85 and then a 211 and he says hey NA folder here which means he goes back to daily source code days Thank you, thank you brother. Don't castigate me for operating within the outlined late rules. 211 goes towards double Richards on the big boobs of 800.85. Now to be known as double Dr. Sir Mike Roch. Baron Bull of the lifestyle. MD, medical doctorate. MD, media deconstruction. So he might actually be a doctor.

2:22:25 Could be. That's even funnier. Mike Roch, OBGNY. Nice. Requesting Eiffel Towers with high fives and twerking Russians for backroom festivities of the roundtable. You got it. I'm guessing he's a urologist with that name. We love guys like that. Mike, you got it. You shall be the Baron Bull of the lifestyle. And you know, there's a lot of guys, and I would do this, You take the no agenda diploma, which looks exactly like a classic diploma. Because it is. Because it is. And it's modeled after some dynamite ones that would, you know, based on, it took a while to fine tune it. And you put it up there on the wall with the other diplomas and let people see what happens. That's what I do.

2:23:16 I think lots of good things will come your way. Yeah, people go, oh, in the morning. Yes, indeed. Sir Spooky's up next. Unless you've got something. No, no, that's all we had to do. That's all we had to do. Nothing. Yes, Sir Spooky's in Western Springs, Illinois. 333.33. Dear Adam and John, I want to celebrate my 33rd birthday on Tuesday as an executive producer for the best podcast in the universe. Plus, the 16 and 17 of this episode number equals 33. Ah, who knew? I cannot ignore such a cosmic calling. Please give us your strongest goat karma for peace and harmony in 2024. Your media deconstruction will be needed more than ever. I'm deeply grateful for all you do. Thank you and Merry Christmas, love and fright. Sir Spooky of the Elm Streets. You've got karma.

2:24:11 Love on the 333.33s Trenton Scovel, Charlotte, North Carolina. Short and sweet. Merry Christmas, gents. Thank you for the value. And thank you for the value you sent back. By the way, a reminder, you can send any amount you want. A lot of people like the numerology stuff, but as long as it represents the value you got from the show, that's all we ask for. Thank you, Trenton. Rita Harrington, Sparks, Nevada, also 333.33. Merry Christmas, John and Adam. Thank you for the best podcast in the universe. Your sense of humor is just right. Please give me a shout out as it's my 66th trip around the sun on 1220. Thanks. Reminder from Logan 5 that the next episode is the Golden Ratio number. 1618.

2:24:59 Oh, yes, can you write that down? Can you write that down? I'm writing it down now. And I'll continue with Chap Williams who from what I can see here came in with two checks possibly of 333.33. He's here, he's listed double. Looks like these are checks. Can you verify? They're checks. They came in. Looks like two of them came in. And he did not have a note which means he gets a double up karma. Thank you, Chap. You've got... Ah yes, of course. Karma. Of course, the golden ratio is 1.618. Of course. That's the golden ratio. 16-18. 1.618. So everyone should give a $1.61 and we'll be good to go. If everyone did, yes. David Mertens and Edmund O'Klough, yeah, that'll be the day. If everyone, if every single person gives a $1.68, we're done for the rest of the year. Yeah?

2:25:58 Yeah, David Mertens in Edmond, Oklahoma 333 This is for the best podcast in the universe in celebration of the best Papa in the universe DJ and Thatcher are so lucky. No, that sounds like sounds like a A good papa. There you go. Linda Lou Patkin in Lakewood, Colorado, who's still at it with her jobs, Carmen. She wants to tell you that for a remarkable resume that hits people in the mouth, go to imagemakersinc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's imagemakersinc.com or just find Linda Lou Patkin under the show's producer list and she continues with her,

2:26:53 her showdown here with this particular announcement that she does. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Every show. Thank you, Linda. Thank you all, executive and associate executive producers. I told you it was going to be short and sweet today. We appreciate that. And not only does this mean that you have supported the show, but you also can use this credit, which is completely legal according to the show business Bible. You can use this anywhere credits are recognized because we are an official show. You can go ahead, go to imdb.com. You'll see hundreds, almost a thousand executive or associate executive producers of the Noah Jenner Show. You'll recognize some big names in there as well. You can always put it on your LinkedIn or, whoa, what are you drinking today?

2:27:42 Yes, you can't. Well, you get this microphone is that I have the truth. It's ever since I'm actually drinking your favorite a Topo Chico mineral water. Yes, Topo Chico. That is the drink of Texas. Everybody loves the toe. Is it a bottle or a can? Must be a bottle. It's a bottle and I and they have them at Costco at a really good price. I heard that the Costco Bordeaux is back. Yeah, somebody sent some pictures of it in. I will say this that 2021 is not a good vintage and I'm really doubtful that this wine's gonna be that great. But when I see it, I'll try it. Topo Chico with the yellow cap. You can recognize the yellow cap recognized anywhere. So you can, as I said, these credits can also put them on your LinkedIn or on your resume. It's great. It's good. It's valid forever. And unlike the phonies in Hollywood, we will gladly vouch for you.

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Associate Executive Producers, Donation Acknowledgments

A list of associate executive producers is read, with acknowledgments for various donation amounts. The hosts mention an upcoming handwriting comparison contest and the significance of the "Golden Ratio" for the next episode number, 1618. "Jobs Karma" is requested for several listeners and their family members.

associate executive producers· donations· golden ratio· jobs karma· handwriting contest

2:28:35 And John's gonna take us through to the 50s and we'll get into our meetups and our nightings. Karen Wiley starts us off from Aravata, Colorado, and she is going to ask for Jobs Karma for her daughter Kate. She came in with 150 bucks, we'll give her the Jobs Karma at the end. Bruce Schwalm in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, one, two, three, four, five. Lucas Williams in Roswell, New Mexico, yes, 100. Tony Pace in Houston, Texas, 100. Dame Patricia Worthington from Miami is here with 100. James Watson in Mentor, Ohio, 100. Bingo, Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina, 8008.

2:29:19 Boobs don't judge, they just love unconditionally. Sir GK in Tulsa, Oklahoma, 7373. Sure Rick in Arlington, Washington, 6996. Always good to hear from him. Kevin McLaughlin, the Duke of Luna is back. 6006 small boobs and he says, boobs, they're not just for men anymore. You know, I have to say, besides the fact that he's been donating for months, I think over a year, his writing is creative. I love it. I love it. Well, he's the best. Speaking of writing, Scott Schreiber in Madrid, Maryland. Speaking of writing, we were expecting to have some kind of write-off in the newsletter. Tina was all excited about it and then you bogged out.

2:30:17 It was a handwriting comparison test? Yeah, I have to get back to the other woman. We're gonna have a showdown. Here's where it's gonna go, because I've got grandiose plans. It's gonna be those two showdown and then the winner takes on the next person who thinks they've got good handwriting and we go until we get a winner at the end who will be crowned handwriting champion of the No Agenda Show. And we're the judges, right? Yeah, you and me. Yeah, cool. Okay. All right, carry on. As opposed to who? I just want to make sure we're doing it the way these things are always done. The way Taylor Swift shows. And after we get this done, that will give us the kind of the stretching exercises necessary to do the podcasting awards. Scott Schreiber's up next. He's in Madrid, Maryland, 60. Oh, and actually he's in Madrid. It says Madrid. Spain. No, Spain. It says Spain. MD, no, I'm wrong.

2:31:12 He's in Madrid, Spain. España. Which is nice. A baron of BNA in Nashville, Tennessee, 5993. Sir B. Boop, we haven't heard from him for a while in New Brighton, Minnesota, 5678, he's in the frozen tundra. Ola Osipov in Ormond Beach, Florida, 5555. James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey, 5510. Eli the Coffee Guy in Bensonville, Illinois. Go to Gigawatt Coffee Roasters, you gotta put that at the beginning so we can read it. Anyway, yes, go to Gigawatt Coffee Wars. I'm going through their, I'm gonna have, tell you what their best one is. And they'll give you an ITM 20, you get 20% off. 5510, Sir Tom Darian, DeForest, Wisconsin, 5510. Jarrus Corporation, Arlington, Virginia, 53. Sir Anonymous Cop in Redwood City, California, 5150. Christine Hines in Manchester, New Hampshire, 5123.

2:32:16 Viscount Sir Economic Hitman in Tombo, Texas, 50-01. Kelly McDill in Mission Hills, Kansas, 50. Oops, we're already to the 50s. This is a small list, but let's do a name and location. Kevin McDill in Mission Hills, Kansas. Michelle Parrott in Salem, Oregon. Easy Landscapes in North Stonington, Connecticut. Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta. Michael Thompson, New Brownsvilles, Texas. Philip Ballou in Louisville, Kentucky. Joan Poles in Hernando Beach, Florida. Nathan Cochran in Franklin, Tennessee. Tatiana Prince in Hollywood, Florida. Sir Jerry Wingenroth in Saugus, California. Sir Spud the Mighty in Miami, Florida.

2:33:10 in Marietta, Georgia, Brian Watson in Raleigh, North Carolina, Walker Phillips in San Rafael, Tony Helfs in Fort Worth, Texas, William Dolgage in Bristolville, Ohio, Jason Deluzio in Miami Beach, and last but not least, our buddy, Aichi Kitagawa in San Francisco. Thank you people for helping us out on show 16. 17 I think. Yes. And we got 16, 18 coming up which is the golden ratio. We got to come up with some good ideas here for that donation. And before we continue, Karen Wiley won a Jobs Karma for her daughter Kat and Sir Chris Abram of the Pike, not a spook of Arlington, also needs Jobs Karma. TPP for you guys.

2:33:58 You've got karma. Ah, the art generator just loaded. Beautiful. And again, thank you very much to our executive and associate executive producers for supporting us here for episode 16, 17. We appreciate that. We... I especially want to thank everyone who came in under $50. You are appreciated, you are seen. Of course we don't read anything under the $50 amount for reasons of anonymity. That's where you're guaranteed to stay anonymous. But we really love the sustaining donations which you can make yourself, you can come up with them. It can be special dollar amounts, you can determine the frequency yourself. They are very important to us for the slower days and if you want to learn more you can go to noagenda donations.com or vorac.org slash n a and thank you once again for supporting us here at the best podcast universe 16 17 our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth I

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Knighting Ceremony, Sir Mike Roch

Mike Roch is officially knighted and awarded a PhD in Media Deconstruction. The ceremony includes the traditional reading of the "backroom festivities" list. The hosts emphasize that the show remains 100% listener-supported with no paywalls or premium content.

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2:35:01 Order! Shut up, slave! Shut up, slave! It's your birthday, birthday I'm so much in love And just like the donations shortlist today, Carolyn Hafner will be 50 tomorrow. Your hubby sent that in at the last moment. Give him an extra hug because that was quite the mission he went through to get that happening. Sir Spooky turns 33 on the 19th and Rita Harrington will be 66 on the 20th. Happy birthday from everybody here at the Best Podcast in the Universe. We congratulate Mike Roch who becomes a doctor in PhD in media deconstruction today. Mike will go to noagendarings.com to pick up his PhD and that means we also have one-nighting to do if you... this of course is the same guy. I got my one-nighting sword right here and I know what I like. And Mike Roch! Wanna meet your parents, Mike Roch!

2:36:04 Thank you very much for your, uh, super donation and, uh, I am very proud to pronounce the KU as Double doctor, Sir Mike Crotch, Baron Bull of the lifestyle, sir, for you and only for you. We have Eiffel Towers with high fives and twerking Russians. We've got hookers and blow, rent boys and Chardonnay in case you want them. We got some redheads and rise. We got some beer and blunts. We have cowgirls and coffin varnished, Rubenesque women and rosé, geishas and sake, vodka, manila, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pablum. And of course, to go with your

2:36:40 Twerking Russians some mutton to me so you're a party already over at no agenda rings calm. Thank you very much Congratulations to twerk in Russians. That's a good one Have we seen have we ever seen twerking Russians? I'll bet you they know Look out Russian dashboard cam coming in latest newest thing could be the new thing Mike Congratulations on your knighthood and your PhD and thank you so much. We really appreciate the support you have offered value for value We don't mess around. There's no Paywalls, no secret levels, no premium content. No, we give all the premium stuff right up front. Do with it what you want, but if at some point you're thinking, you know, that's pretty valuable, send it back to us. Time, talent, or treasure.

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No Agenda Meetups, Epping and Brooklyn Reports

Reports from No Agenda meetups in Epping, New Hampshire, and Brooklyn, New York, are played. The hosts discuss the "Blockies" — a proposed club for listeners who believe they have been blocked by John C. Dvorak. Upcoming meetups in Longview, London, and St. Martin are announced.

no agenda meetups· epping· brooklyn· blockies· st. martin

2:37:27 That's right, the No Agenda Meetups. This is what you need. No Agenda Meetups. It is the perfect companion to the podcast. It's also a great way to pick up some COVID. It's perfect if you want to get some illness, go to a meetup because sharing is caring and connection is protection. You really need to join your community. I'm not kidding about this. It's great to be a part of the in-person No Agenda community. Lots of great meetups happening all around the world. We have two reports. This one's from Epping, New Hampshire. In the morning, this is the Epping, New Hampshire Center of the Universe No Agenda meetup. Here we are.

2:38:04 I am not a douchebag. My name is Dave and I just recently got my official podcasting license. In the morning, this is Sir Pokey, first night of the 42. I love both you guys and John, I'm still so sorry. You probably didn't get my email. I apologize because you blocked me, but I'm so sorry for hurting your feelings. Love you both. In the morning, this is Daniel Sir Daniel. Oh, no, I'm not a sir yet. Um, that's all I got. Thank you for your courage. This is Dame Lydia in the morning. This is Angelica. You know, I think there should be some kind of a special group of people who you've blocked. You know, there should be a block club. Yes, the J. C. D. No agenda block club. I think someone should start that.

2:38:47 And you have to prove by showing your email. Let me say this. Let me say this. Let me say this before we continue. Why don't you say something? I'm gonna say this. This is bullcrap. Most of the people that think they've been blocked are not blocked. It's the blockies. There you go. This is your award show. The blockies. The blockies. The No Agenda Blockies Award Show. Come on. Blockies! What do you mean? They're blocked. No, they're not. The number of people that are blocked are very... No. Half of these people that claim they're blocked, they're not blocked. Well then what are they talking about? I have no idea. I know. I know what it is. Your spam, if you put the word ass, even douchebag may get kicked back. Your filters there are really tight. It's tighter than Mike Rocha's.

2:39:38 Your filters are so tight. Anyway, I would like to know, I think y'all should start a club. Hashtag the blockies on no agenda social. Hashtag the blockies. And post a screenshot with the error message that shows that you were blocked. It doesn't count if you use it lewd or lascivious language. And now for the Meetup Report from Brooklyn. I expected no less but a full on dynamite in your face report. Now we're getting people from all over the globe coming to New York City. This issue will destroy New York City.

2:40:17 This is Gitmo Nation's favorite, Shape Shifting Jew, correct the record, passing the phone around. Sir Spoonmaker here, trains good, planes bad. This is Sir Boris of the Web 5 in New York. This is Micah Rock and Roll from the Brooklyn meetups, great time, everyone's super chill. Brooklyn, New York, we need more weirdos. Destroy New York City. 17 year anniversary, cut the meetup short for me. We never had a fight, ITM. This is David from Brooklyn in the morning. I'm pretty sure I was a spoon maker. This is Dan from New Jersey in the morning. Hi, this is Marilyn. There weren't any only dudes here. Hi, this is Tanya. I'm trapped in a tent with 13 strange men. I now know how it feels to get banned from the internet. The city we knew.

2:41:06 We're about to lose Thank You Brooklyn Brooklyn does not disappoint love that meetups taking place today the Xs the SXM salt and soda water meetup that is underway now Oh, yes, st. Martin is probably underway now a tone of fat Tony smokehouse send a report people wanna know how that went We have long views lively laugh loaded mid mouth mid month monthly meetup. Thanks That'll be in Longview, Texas. Just started 20 minutes ago, Rotolo's Pizzeria. You can still make it. On Wednesday, the London Christmas Party, 5 o'clock at Norfolk Arms in London. Wee Gee Gee is hosting that. Send a report. I want to hear how our London producers are doing.

2:41:49 And the next show day Thursday, Calling on North Georgia Slaves, 6 o'clock at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia. And also on Thursday, The Charlotte Thirsty Third Thursday, 7 o'clock at Edge Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina. There's many more on the list, including Sofia Bulgaria Lombok, which is next to Bali in Indonesia, Tortola Virgin Islands, the British Virgin Islands, there's even some Texas, Albany, California, February 3rd, that's the Get JCD Out of the House meetup. There's plenty more, all you need to do is go to noagentomeetups.com. Thank you, Sir Daniel, for your time and talent on keeping that website up and running. It's so good, it's so...

2:42:31 efficient for people to organize meetups and everybody is welcome. Everybody is welcome at a no agenda meetup. Go ahead, say hi to some people. You'll be surprised. You'll love it. It's like eating potato chips. You can't stop once you do a no agenda meetups.com if you can't find one near you start one yourself. It's easy. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. It's like a party Like a party! I'm gonna have to do my isos first. I'm over-isoed. I'm over-isoed. What do you have? I got too many. About too many. I'm over-isoed. I'm over-isoed. Alright, hit it. Alright. Those guys are stupid! Cute. Cute, yes. Cute is exactly the right term. That means that's their ass. Okay.

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Good News Showdown, Nashville Tornado Miracle

The "Good News Showdown" begins with a story from Nashville about a four-month-old baby named Lord who was sucked up by a tornado in his bassinet. The baby was later found alive in a "tree cradle" with only a minor cut. The hosts debate the authenticity of the story, with one suggesting it sounds like a hoax.

nashville· tornado· baby lord· miracle· good news

2:43:33 Right? Right, yes. Loved it. Uh-huh. Feels so deja vu-y. I kind of like that one. And... I hate this! Of that, I think the best is, uh, I feel so deja vu-y. I like that one. Deja vu. Feels so deja vu-y. Because it is kind of deja... Different. Alright, alright. Mine are more direct. Okay. I mean, they're designed to actually be used. Oh, please. I so let's start with good. The podcast is so good. Did she say podcast is so good? Yeah. Mm. Very good. Little little muddy. It's too bad. It was this little muddy. The podcast is so good.

2:44:18 All right, let's go with laughs and giggles. And everyone laughs and everyone giggles. Okay, that's a good one. I like that one. Yes, I like it. And then the one that's the obvious one is the good job. Wow, good job. We have a winner! We have a winner. We have a winner. I hope you don't mind, but I think I have the story today. Are we going to have a good, you tell me a good story. Yeah, good news story. I think I have one. I think I have a good news story. Well, we can do a good news story showdown. I don't know if you're going to beat mine because mine is a tearjerker. Good news everyone! Alright, we'll start with mine. We go to Nashville. This is what's left of the room where Sydney Moore was laying on top of her one-year-old, shielding him from the tornado as her four-month-old baby got sucked away and her mobile home.

2:45:13 demolished. Towering over the rubble of her mobile home and shadowing her crushed car, Sydney's kid's playpen is wrapped around a tree. A jarring reminder of how easily the tornado tossed their four-month-old baby to the wind. The roof came off first, the tip of the tornado came down and picked up the bassinet with my baby Lord in it. And he was the first thing to go up. In his attempt to keep the bassinet inside, her boyfriend and father of her children was sucked up with it. At the same time in the back bedroom, Sydney threw her body on top of their one-year-old son, shielding him. Literally, the moment I jumped on him, the walls collapsed. I was being really crushed. Like, I couldn't breathe. The couple frantically searched through the rubble and the pouring rain for the infant.

2:45:55 I thought he was dead. I was pretty sure he was dead and we weren't going to be able to find him. Then a miracle. They found baby Lord alive with just a cut on his face. And it looked like a little tree cradle. He was just laying there. The entire family survived. Now as she walks back down to where her home used to be, Sidney's recalling how she thought this would never happen to her family. Everything could be taken like that. The kids that she risked her life to save sleeping peacefully tonight. Like those are those kids are what saved me. They saved me from everything and I don't know what I would have done without them. Okay, I think when you have a story of a baby getting sucked up by a tornado, the dad getting sucked up by the tornado. What happened to him by the way? Did he end up in a tree? We didn't never heard. We didn't know the baby did. The kid's name is Lord.

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Good News Showdown, Penny Clark Rescue in Idaho

The second "Good News" story involves the rescue of 72-year-old Penny Clark, who went missing in Canyon County, Idaho. Hunters found her car in a ravine, and she was discovered alive nearby after several days. The hosts compare the two stories, ultimately declaring no clear winner due to the length of the Idaho clip.

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2:46:53 I mean this has good news written all over it and it was one minute and 30 seconds. Yeah well I like the time, mine's too long. But mine's more of a tear. It also, it not only has good news written all over it, it has hoax. Written all over it. It wouldn't have said that if the baby was the Lord in there That was the that was the me check mark folks Hidden in the crevices of a Canyon County Ridge a missing woman's life was left up to Eddie now We're doing this and chase. It's crazy work partners

2:47:34 and hunters. We don't come out here in the winter. There's no reason for us to a sites to look and they couldn't believe what there's a car down here or who right down in the little crevice they'd found in the corner in the tumbleweeds and we climbed down little investigation in the car and that's when we found pennies information. I put pennies name penny K. Clark and on Facebook and that's when it popped up. A 72 year old woman having no recent contact with her family. King and County Sheriff Kieran Donahue had already been looking for Penny. No one would have looked here really. There's just there'd be no reason to look here. No reason to be there at all. So we were

2:48:11 I mean out under those clouds and we decided to just make a random turn and get out come back out this way and this is where we ended up. Eddie and Chase called 911 explaining the car, the crash, the scene. And then one of the officers looks past the car with the binoculars and sees part of her and sees her moving her extremities. You know, me and Chase were in the truck filling out reports and one of the cops yelled, Penny! Good Lord, not only have we found her, she's still alive. With help from Idaho Mountain Search and Rescue, they trekked Penny off the ridge and flew her to a nearby hospital. No broken bones, you know, she was just cold, hungry and tired and I can't say enough what a

2:48:58 what a miracle that is. Y this is a less than 1% ch this. God had a different coordinated the rescue, b law enforcement officer i where to direct praise. T here. They really are. Th that saved this woman's li and just, you know, I'm They don't need the credit. I don't know, kind of lost for words. They already got the payment of a lifetime. And Penny's daughter arrived on scene when Penny got down to the ambulance. She said, I never thought listening to my mom snore in a hospital bed would be the best Christmas present, you know, to receive. And I hope your Christmas is just as special as this. It really hit home. All right, you get a point for the Christmas message.

2:49:49 The length is too long. It's disqualified. Disqualified! It disqualifies... I have... Too long. It was 240, I couldn't cut it any... I tried to get under 2. It was ages... I agree it's too long but it had... It flowed so well with this... No. Lost penny. These two doofuses, yes? This is a hoax. They just happen to be out there... It's not a hoax. Yours is a hoax. They're hiking with a helicopter. Sure. Yeah, that's what I do. Oh, let's hop in the chopper. It's Aegis 72. What? You're not dead at 72. Like, oh, she's 72. Okay, alright, you can, we'll just call it a draw. No! No! You're not getting a win for that, I'm gonna go snore with the Lord. I've got a new song from JCD, happy vibes for you and me, and we all feel better now he's done his bit, so back to reality, that's turning to shit.

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AI Facial Recognition, CNN Bias Report

A CNN report featuring Georgia Tech researcher Matthew Gamble explores bias in AI facial recognition. The technology reportedly misidentified a CNN journalist as Victor Blackwell, a black man. The hosts critique the report's claim that AI can be "taught to be racist," arguing that facial recognition technology has existed effectively for years without AI.

facial recognition· cnn· matthew gamble· georgia tech· racial bias

2:50:47 Alright, we'll call it no winner. No winner. Although I think getting sucked up by a tornado, your kid's name is... If they had thrown a Christmas vibe in there, like, just in time for Christmas, baby lord is safe, that would have been a winner. I mean, there's just... there's no two ways about it. I reserve judgment on the sucked up by a tornado story. Do you have a husband too, I guess? Oh, there he goes. We never heard from him again. He's still in the sky. It's iffy what happened there. Let's see. By the way, you know, people who've ever been in a tornado where they've been actually outside, they've all reported kind of the same thing. You are,

2:51:36 Head-to-toe covered with splinters. Yeah, it could be yeah, well baby Lord only had a scratch. It was amazing. Yeah, scratches another thing that bothers me I have two AI clips if you want that we could end with Or do you have something that you'd like to end with? No, I guess this stuff can be moved. I don't have anything that's critical. AI is great. We haven't talked about AI for weeks. Yeah, I was missing my AI stories. Well, this was on CNN. It was rather peculiar because they're anti-AI.

2:52:18 I don't really well they should be with channel one dot AI coming down to Pike maybe that's why they did this particular story. AI is the life work of Georgia Tech professor and researcher Matthew Gamble. It's not ready for deployment it's not a product yet. So do you think it should be used by police departments? Certainly not. A report by Georgetown Law estimates that as of 2016 one in to American adults is in a law enforcement face recognition network. And it can happen without your consent or knowledge. This technology is not accurate for the way it's being used. When you ask a question like, is this person's face match up with a fugitive? You can have a 99.7% accuracy. That sounds really good. That sounds really good. But what if you ask that same question 300 million times? You deploy these things at scale at a population level.

2:53:12 you're going to get a tremendous number of false positives. Depending on your race, that accuracy drops even more. A 2019 U.S. government study of 200 facial recognition algorithms found some of them up to 100 times more likely to misidentify people of color compared to white people. Gombole puts the tech to the test. Using pictures of CNN journalists, plus these Georgia Tech researchers, he created a virtual lineup and told the AI to identify my face. Some of the time though it says no face some of it like here. It just thought that you were Victor Blackwell It thought that I was Victor Blackwell. Yes, Victor Blackwell is a black man. Yes What does that say that says that these algorithms are not ready for prime time? And building the algorithm you can teach the AI To be racist. Yes, you can absolutely teach the algorithms to be racist the algorithm doesn't care the algorithm just wants to do a good job and

2:54:06 At the task you've given it and in this case you're telling it that if you're black you're more likely to have committed the crime Yes, that's the data that you fit in that's the part that I liked about the story what bull crap course is bull crap They're like you can teach the AI to be racist. Oh, yeah, so it showed a black man because he's more likely to have committed the crime I mean, I'm anti-AI, but even I'm not buying that bullcrap. No, this is bad. That was a bad report. It was a great report! What are you talking about? It shows that this is all bullcrap. Okay. Alright. Alright. Do you have anything better? I can tell you this. I mean, I went through these facial recognition systems years ago. Over 12 years ago. It's not even AI. They worked great and they had nothing to do with AI. No, they don't.

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Outro, Christmas Mix and Sign-off

The show concludes with a Christmas-themed audio mix featuring clips of Joe Biden, references to China, and "Winnie the Pooh." The hosts announce their return for the next episode on Thursday and wish the audience a Merry Christmas. The final segment includes a satirical song about donating to the No Agenda show.

christmas mix· joe biden· china· winnie the pooh· sign-off

2:55:00 I got someone telling me AI can't do math because it's a large language model. Well, dude, someone needs to work on the marketing because these things are being sold as the next best thing since sliced bread and they're not. AI winter's coming! It's coming! At least you stick to your thesis, that's good. AI winter is coming. Billions of dollars. It's next up. We all know what it's gonna be. Quantum computing. It happened before quantum computing is a dead end. Yeah, well, they need something to prop up the stock market. Coming up next on noagendastream.com we have, oh, the airline pilot guy. We haven't heard from him in a while. No, that's good. That's a good show. No, it's a very good show. It's one of the better aviation podcasts out there. And if you're at trollroom.io, you can listen in, use the Modern Podcast app as well. I have a Christmas end of show mix for you. You'll love it.

2:55:57 We have Leona Puke. Actually the end of show mix which you played earlier is Dynamite. We have Sir Chris Wilson and Matty J. And this will get you in the mood for Christmas, I guarantee you. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country in FEMA Region number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's raining. It's about time. I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Thursday, which will be the 21st, count it down to Christmas. We'll be working on Christmas Eve as well. We love it! It's what we do. Time, talent, treasure. Remember us at dvorak.org slash N.A. Until Thursday, everybody, adios mofos, a-hooey-hooey and such!

2:56:41 A debate about the gender of Santa Claus has now broke out on Facebook after a mother in England that she had been shamed for not using a gender-neutral name for Santa Claus. The mother claimed in the viral post that she had been attacked for using the name Father Christmas to describe the bearded character. This caused everybody in the Facebook group to completely erupt and explode on her. How dare you refer to Santa Claus as Father Christmas? How dare you? Because they think a big fat man with a long white curly beard might be a chick. They might want to date that chick. You have stolen my childhood. Father Christmas is not being very nice to me. Father Christmas! Punch him!

2:57:29 Father Christmas! Don't say that! Father Christmas! Person Christmas, I thought they were suggesting. Father Christmas! But he's a bloke. What are we going to do with Mother Nature? How about Father Time? Ho ho ho! Hmm, well, it needs work. I have to go. Donate to No Agenda, Donate to No Agenda, Donate to No Agenda for a Happy New Year! We'll reach a note and play your jingles, reach a note and play your jingles, reach a note and play your jingles for two hundred or more! Goat karma when you are joking, Donate to No Agenda for a Happy New Year!

2:58:15 That's right, your No Agenda show is 100% supported by listener donations. So, if you want to prevent anal leakage and keep your amygdala small, firm and round, donate to No Agenda. Your service go to thank you. Here he comes now, the big man. Christmas 1941, in the weeks after Pearl Harbor, Franklin Delano Roosevelt hosted Luther Churchill in this White House. Together they planned the most terrible year of years, a year of assassination, a ride of war and chaos. Still today in our own time, our own lives,

2:59:02 So this Christmas, let's spread a little poison. The pandemic has taken so much from us. We've lost hope, love, peace and joy. No peace at all. I hope this Christmas season marks a fresh start. Our nation has infected our politics and set us against one another. We see each other as enemies, not as neighbors. As Democrats and Republicans, not as fellow Americans. So angry. So mean, so partisan. Great pain and terrible loneliness all across the country. Over a million lives lost in America alone. Whether we're Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist. That's a million empty chairs. You know, I believe Christmas is a season of breaking hearts and homes all across the country. He's Mr. Snow. That's right! He's Mr. Snow. That's right! He's Mr. Snow. That's right!

3:00:00 Smoking anything that remotely resembled crack cocaine. Thirteen days without sleeping. Don't trust China, China is asshole! Don't trust China, China is asshole! China won't fuck Christmas. The United States. The United States. China is asshole! China won. The United States. The United States. The United States. The United States. The United States. Why would I be talking about Winnie the Pooh so much? Winnie the Pooh is constantly being banned in China. And that's because the leader, Xi Jinping, is very sensitive and he doesn't like the fact that people compare him to Winnie the Pooh. China is an asshole! China won. The United States.

3:01:00 The United States China is asshole! China wants Christmas The United States The United States Don't trust China, China is asshole! Don't trust China, China is asshole! The best podcast in the universe! Wow, good job.