2:21:53 But it's something about hate the game, not the players. It's something about social media that just, it's broken. It's evil! It's the devil! No I think you're on to something and i brought up the Marshall McLuhan concepts and I think you nailed it as the medium is the message Yes and I'm happy...I mean I love our community. I love no agenda in fact we have um yeah we did this meetup The Super Spreader Seething infected human resources meetup in Indiana. The Infected Indiana Meetup, yes? And I asked and this will be our end of show because we didn't really get any new mixes so I asked you know instead of just saying cuz you know there's a lot of people there
2:22:41 And you do just the, two minutes of people thanking like a hey it's me. It's me. A lot of kissing, a lot of handshaking, a lot of hugging. I'm talking about the meetup report. That is what I meant. So instead of that I said why don't you do a meet up report and tell us what your thankful for? And that shows the real no agenda community and I'm gonna play that as our end of show. Oh, that's sweet It is! I know and I knew you'd love it It's about six minutes. Yeah, it'll be right after The Good News too which is... oh man there's so much good stuff coming if you leave now You are bad and stupid
2:23:18 But that's I know see there you condemning them already. No, but the trolls don't leave because The troll room is the place where you can do this stuff? I love it Troll me all you want in the troll room It's perfect for that its ephemeral it goes away and you can do that in a modern podcast app too So, Value for Value is what we've been running on. I think by now you realize that if you got this far and your first time listener or maybe second time like how do these guys do all this stuff without getting the platform? Well, we don't have a platform first of all. What were you gonna say? We create our own platform. That's what everyone should do it's not impossible. Yes And instead of relying on a third party
2:24:03 We spend the money to create our own platform so nobody can kick us off of it because we own it. Yes, and we do this with our producers who help us in many ways a lot of the technology stuff that has been done we haven't done...we've never built a website for ourselves that I can remember, maybe one of the first ones. All of that has been done by producers as part of our time talents and treasure and the way it works with value for value which is a concept which is catching on in all kinds of areas music now people are seeing it as truly the way out because Silicon Valley's model is give us all your content and we'll give you nothing That's their basic...that's what Spotify does That's what they've done to musicians That's what social media is
2:24:51 Mark Zuckerberg like, yeah give me all your Instagram posts. Give me a real tic-tac. Give it to me! Give it to me! Give it to me! And you get nothing so you're working... You're slave. Your working for them So instead we just say hey if you got any value out of this show If you learned anything if you laughed even if you cried if there was something you didn't know or you know what? Even if you got mad at us That's valuable and eventually you'll say I need more of that So you do that, you're a hate listener with couple of shows. Yeah and what I do is force myself to listen to the pivot ads! I'd do that to help them...I wish i could just give them money. I'd gladly give them money with a message like, I hate you here's 50 bucks. I'd give him 500 from time-to-time if I had the money. You bet! Now I hate you here's some value back now one way speaking of websites let's see
2:25:47 Sir Paul Couture has been running for many years. I just opened it, yeah Is it up? He's been running noagendaartgenerator.com which has been a fabulous resource with almost 30 thousand pieces of art since he started that and we had something before then. There was some horrible incidents... He's actually changed this a couple of times, he has changed infrastructure went to headless Drupal and then I went to just headless Ruby on Rails whatever so he is taking advantage of the explosion in the data center to bring everything back up
2:26:33 with a new system, which he was planning anyway. Whatever we love you Sir Paul Couture if you can get it back up you can if not We have a backup we can always import that into a new system will work it out That's and that's part of the value for value system as well Same since we didn't contract someone for thousands of dollars a month to complain about but at the same time we know He's a coder his content It's content. And that's the way it is, yeah! It's content. But we don't have to get all mad because we're paying you for this what are you doing? This is horrible your service is no good I knew we should have gone with Azure The consultants told us, KWS. No! There's none of that we're just like okay all right man we know you work out whatever yeah we love this the way hey whatever and so man so yeah it's a part of that come our wonderful artists and they and so they've Jerry rigged some system now no agenda social comm has been very handy for this
2:27:32 They've been posting their artwork there, tagging Sir Paul Couture. And so we have been able to at least get some submissions. It's probably more work now than ever! Oh tons of work...tons of work And so we yeah, and we always select something from the offering that we have there from the value that is returned to us by ours. We love all the value! We can only choose one of course and we will review it will give you value right back reviewing your work if we thought it will tell you why we didn't choose it. And we want to thank Darren O'Neill Who likes crappy music? Stand by. He's an old stand-by. Yeah, but he nailed it! He could do art every show. He nailed it with the no agenda threat level indicator
2:28:21 Yeah, if you haven't I mean this was just great and the levels were low raised high Trump and Swift. For Taylor Swift nailed it so we're at Taylor Swift threat level it was great Darren thank you It was just fantastic there were a couple others that we discussed There's a lot of them were good Dame Kenny Benz McPartner was I like that piece a lot you liked the blinking lights Yes, well they'd like why don't tear computer. Yeah? Why didn't we choose Dame Kenny Benz that was the the Big Mac works with those MPEC Why do we not choose it just because she and what does it because we liked Darren's better period yeah
2:29:03 And I think it was because of the Swift joke. There was the... Now Neswork spent a lot of time on, uh, on The Crocs discussion which was interesting Yeah You know why that's interesting? Let me just go back and remind everybody where that came from Go back to episode 1614 That's very inexpensive I wouldn't know. You don't get... you wear Crocs! I don't wear Crocs at all things. No, you were Speedos that look like Crocs. I don't wear Speedos. I don't even know they make shoes What is the shoes you had that looked like Crocs? Alright so that was the conversation and as part of that tremendous value one of our producers said oh let me take you back to episode 910 hmm what could be in that episode First
2:29:58 Yeah, the keyboard was on the floor. So I had this problem happening on the Horowitz show What? The keyboard? You're losing the keyboard? The keyboards on the floor and i kick it with my... This happened in our last show you didn't notice With your croc? You kick it with your croc! I don't wear crocs. I wear Speedos Oh no! Oh what?! What happened there!? Okay, there was a brand of shoes that they had at Costco once. That were made by Speedos and they had a slight resemblance to a Crocs shoe. Now I... Does Speedo imply other garb? Yeah but we knew it was about the shoes. I have uh
2:30:44 put in the safe, I zipped up that information and now am in denial as to the fact that those were Speedo shoes that I had five years ago. The kids call this receipts? Yes! I'm really happy that the producers out there have nothing better to do than dig up slight gas. Oh, that's value for value right there. That's how it works! Do you get it now? Do you understand? That's a value for value Thank you to our artists For submitting your artwork we really appreciate it all of you I mean We have a little extra side issue to the art generator being down all those beautiful