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00:00 No, you can't use the word death! Taking the long-termist view and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No. 6 In The Morning, everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I am sick of listening to football players saying they're playing one day at a time...I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Isn't that what we do as podcasters? We're podcasting one show at a time

00:39 One joint listening to it is a good one. I'm listening to the NFL today on CBS yeah, and James Brown's talking to a remote And he says to the guy who didn't finish the interview okay? We'll knock him alive What? And I'm thinking, holy mackerel. You're telling me that CBS... you can't use the phrase knock them dead anymore because that's what that stems from? So you make something up which isn't really an old saying or an old phrase or anything else and say knock them alive? Oh this is no good! Knock em' alive It's pathetic! Or you might hurt somebody's feelings That's pretty lame

01:26 That's the lamest thing I've ever heard. James Brown, host of the show Wait a minute, THE James Brown? No, James Brown is a business sportscaster Oh but wasn't he an ex-football player You know, i don't think he was He looks like his big guy but I don't think it was Well that's pretty sad That is pretty sad Knock him alive! We should come up with a whole bunch of those sayings Knock him alive Not over my living body Perfect! You nailed it. Make him up right where you are, man no problem. Not over my living body. Over my living body that's not gonna happen. Actually that one makes a little more sense than knock them alive. You can't knock somebody alive. Taking pride from my cold living hands somehow just doesn't work. You're on a roll keep it up I can't think of any more

02:23 Wanted living or alive. There you go now I mean how much more do you want from me? It's like I can keep my here all night and day yeah, oh man Oh man hey there's some funny stuff happening which we need any stop. Yeah We needed some funny stuff because everyone is so serious Even the emails we get us of serious Our emails have been too serious recently. I was very concerned about everything, concerned but i think what has just been fantastic to watch is the M5M mainstream media blatantly lying about Elon Musk

03:05 Oh, you're right. They are lying about Elon Musk. Latently lying! I think i have a clip. Let me get you started with a little bit of CBS Evening News everybody Back here at home tech billionaire Elon Musk is under fire for spreading anti-semitic and racist hate. Let's ask the question before we even get into this story. Racist hate? Before we even get into the story Why is everything, it's transphobic, it's homophobic, it's Islamaphobic but then instead of Jew-a-phobic its anti-Semitism? How come they don't use it or you know Semaphobic. Why don't they use phobic for anti-Semitism which by itself... Well to use phobic for racism! Yes but I just... Because the guys in Negro-phobic. I just don't understand

04:01 I don't understand why it's anti-Semitic. It's, you know, anti like... You know? I'm anti a lot of things! I'm anti vegan! Doesn't sound the same as vegaphobic?! I dunno, it just— Well he could be anti trans how come they don't use that? But this is my point It doesn't sound... No, the phobic thing has always been a problem. It started with homophobic and if you use the word phobic that means fear of but in most cases people who are homophobic hate gays! Yeah irrational fear it's irrational fear of something yeah irrational they're not fearful of the horde of gays coming out at them

04:40 Here they come, what are we gonna do? I'd be careful man. Some of those gay guys are pretty buff. Beat you up! Most of them are. The guy's really buffed he's gay Yeah but instead of semaphobic Israelophobic and it could be a whole bunch of phobics Israelophobic that sounds good that has a good sound to it Because it really is an irrational fear Ziophobic? Hmm, doesn't work for it. Zion-phobic. Yeah that would be better than anti-semitic just doesn't have enough weight I mean I think that the Jews should do something about that well not only that but most of the people are complaining about the Israeli Jews yes this is not just a wandering Jew

05:29 Yes, a shape-shifting Jew. No! Shape shifting Jews are okay It's just it's just the point of order I find it an odd... Only in podcast can we get away with this kind of discussion Oh yeah because you can't even agree with the video without getting deplatformed from your own platform Back here at home tech billionaire Elon Musk is under fire for spreading anti-semitic and racist hate to 160 million followers on X It's not just hate its racist hate It could be race hate would be better, but let's stop picking it apart. Let's just go with the story. Formerly known as Twitter Disney is just becoming the latest advertiser to flee this social media platform out of fear that their ads will appear next to hate speech CBS and Nancy Cordes is at The White House where The Biden Administration today condemned the promotion of what it called hideous anti-semitic lies So I think here's how... Whoa! Lies! Anti-Semitic lies so I think here's how the meeting went

06:26 Mr. President, I mean person who is Mr. President's brain we got a problem like all the kids that we activated for Black Lives Matter and all the LGBTQs they hate us! They're calling you Genocide Joe hey hey ho-ho genocide Joe gotta go what we gotta do something fine so you know what? I'm convinced you're right it's all about genocide Joe in at that phrase yep deflection by the way what is anti-semitic He said, what anti-semitic hate? Uh race hate. Is that a redundant in some ways I don't know well let's listen at the end of that report let me listen again The latest fire oops is at the White House where the Biden administration today condemned the promotion of what it called hideous anti-semitic lies no hideous lies What's an anti-semitic lie if you're anti-semitic your anti-semitic

07:21 I know, it's... the whole thing is very shaky. But anyway so they had this meeting like dude! I got something we can deflect call CBS call ABC call NBC call everybody Call CIA and they'll take care of it Call Media Matters come on get everybody involved we got something we can shift make it Elon make it make it Elon Make It Elon The latest firestorm sparked by Firestorm Firestorm? I only heard about this a few hours ago. Lahaina was the firestorm, lady! Not this! Elon Musk on his social media site X is now threatening to spread... Oh violation! Violation she forgot to say formerly known as Twitter

08:05 This is a minus point for you, lady. The latest firestorm sparked by Elon Musk on his social media site X is now threatening to spread to his other companies including SpaceX and electric car maker Tesla Oh it's spreading! As investors openly muse about selling stock Did you hear anyone openly musing? About selling stock. This is good, this is a threat. Oh yeah! This is a formal threat laid down by the Biden administration over this genocide Joe thing which I'm sure has got to be eaten at him Of course And they want Musk to throw in with them So there it is and now investors are musing

08:52 Which, you know considering would have been a word. What is this muse? Why are they using muse because it's bullcrap because it's not true? Muse... It means like thinking over I think that the music oh let me I'm thinking it over you know this must guy in a wine room. I should be investing with him he's not stable Maybe I should yeah well lets just say muse. Let me see muse as the Wow man you look up muse and actually add the word definition because you get all kinds of Def... def... definition. Let's see what the actual definition is. Um, muse. Muse to become absorbed in thought. I'm just thinking over again. No, absorbed!

09:37 I'm absorbed in thoughts. Thinking over-absorbed with everything. Ha ha, mused! ...car maker Tesla as investors openly muse about selling stock. Muse! The controversy started Wednesday afternoon when Musk the world's richest man liked a post on X that claimed Jewish communities have a quote dialectical hatred against whites Okay, so this is the problem. So it's a retweet? First of all that is there's no quote that the word dialectical... Oh I just dialecticalled No here's what happened and they all have screenshots on their websites Of this one guy who only has 5,000 followers but he hasn't blue check The artist formerly known as Eric And he is..so what he says is okay

10:27 Jewish communities have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them. I am deeply disinterested in giving the tiniest shit now about Western Jewish populations coming to the disturbing realization that those hordes of minorities that they supported flooding their country don't exactly like them too much. You want the truth said to your face? There it is." To which Elon Musk replied, you have said the actual truth but the thing is what they don't show on their screenshots Is the rest of the tweet? No, no. It's that this guy, this artist formerly known as Eric he was responding to a tweet before that which was a video from Jewish leaders against hate A one-minute clip

11:20 which is posted by Charles Weber, blue check. He says to the cowards hiding behind the anonymity of the internet and posting quote Hitler was right you got something you want to say why don't you say it to our faces? And so what this is a PSA public service announcement if his dad and his kid both white clearly pickup trucks so Trump supporters driving in the rain And his dad suddenly stops and says, you know I've been reading what you've been posting. Hitler was right? Are you crazy?! And he stops in front of a Jewish school or synagogue and the Jewish children are coming out... Oh yeah, I have seen this happen! ...and he says why don't you go say it to their face son!?

12:02 implying that the only people who say horrible things about Jews are white Trump supporters. Because it is a pickup truck and I'm just making that supposition So this guy is replying to that saying, hey hold on a second if you want to actually make a point about people who hate you why don't you look at the people who actually hate you? And that's what it was about not about just You know, Elon Musk saying oh yeah that's right the Jews hate white people. That's not what it was! I mean it's all pretty nuanced and hey people its Twitter but alright genocide Joe is a problem let's pin it on Musk. My first reaction was

12:54 grow up. Rabbi Abraham Cooper just met with Musk about anti-Semitism two months ago I thought was a kind of flippant statement which are listed immediately will be embraced by anti-Semites and say, hey, Lomax is in our camp. He understands us he gets our pain." Tech giant IBM pulled its advertising from X citing the quote entirely unacceptable situation Which is so beautifully ironic seeing as IBM literally colluded with Hitler making the punch card for the camps for this extermination camps

13:31 The Jews. Hey, hold on who's your buddy who wrote the book about it? Black Edwin black and when black do you remember the name of the book team over the name of the book I don't remember the name of the book. Edwin black wrote a book. When I keep saying Edwin, you keep I say Edwin and you keep saying Edwin it's Edwin what he think I'm saying Irwin coming over muddy sorry that's your connection Edwin black Let's see, what is his... He has a lot of books. He does but I want to get this one book Man look at it he's got IBM and the Holocaust we should have been able to remember that! He's not trying to cover up the issue with the title that's weird You can also I'm sure we have clips we won't play them but go look go look at Edwin Black

14:23 If you want to get good Edwin Black material, I would say go to C-SPAN and he has various lectures that are up on C-SPAN about his books. You don't have to read the books! And they haven't been thrown off of C-SPAN for Jew hate or anything it's just the truth IBM there's this I think there's even pictures the CEO of IBM at the time sitting in a table with Hitler. That could be, yeah. We got a good deal going on. Yeah so they're the ones who bailed sure that makes no sense. Way to go IBM! Lionsgate Entertainment... And you know what I could have if IBM had said

15:05 We have had a pretty sordid past, so we are very sorry for our role. Have they ever really apologized publicly? No they haven't and I'll take it one step further if IBM is actually an advertiser people told me that they've seen these ads at what do advertisers do when there's a misplaced ad? They call the guy up, they call the company up say hey! I don't want my ads placed next to these anti-Jew or Jew hate posts, I want to make good for those to get some free advertising. I want to make good for those and I don't want it to happen again." That's how you do it! Yeah unfortunately that's not what happened

15:50 Because the White House, presumably called Media Matters. I looked up Media Matters form 990 they're a nonprofit started by David Brock I think it was money from the Clintons originally Yes Clinton money Do you know how much money they have breaked in per year? I mean hold on so I have the form 990 right here The let's see I think this past year was 39 million, 25 million. These guys have salaries in the $300,000 range

16:27 This is this is Siri. I thought that they were just a little rinky-dink operation No, then they give away hundreds of the Bonner group they give away Hundreds of thousands have done that's professional services hundreds of thousands of dollars to other groups no services means hookers Top notch maybe there they're working with hunter than cuz you know, that's like a thousand really expensive hookers and What's interesting is I looked up there, you know so in the Form 990 and again these guys in this past year pulled in 25 million dollars. In what is their...you have to give a mission as a form as a 501c3 company and that you have to kind of stick to that mission otherwise you know you run into trouble with the IRS mainly but it can be other things

17:23 So this, they have a one-line mission statement. Many of these nonprofits have a whole paragraph... No! This is their mission statement dedicated to comprehensively monitoring analyzing and correcting conservative misinformation in the US media that doesn't mean calling advertisers and say hey there's some Jew stuff next year ad That's not part of their mission. No, it shouldn't be but of course it is and so they sent Media Matters out to stir up the soup and And the last thing you want as an advertiser Well, the first thing you want is a make good in lots of free ads that's what you're saying Yes always that's always the key But if your meat if your if you're being attacked or threatened by media matters

18:15 and I have an interview with one of the key peoples in a moment, people's, one of the key executives. That's when you go, oh, well, I'm pulling out! And media matters they are They're not just monitoring, analyzing and correcting. They did in fact... They are activists! They are complete activists and they are de-platforming And that is their mission as you'll hear in a moment Let's finish the CBS report Tech giant IBM pulled its advertising from X citing the quote entirely unacceptable situation Lionsgate Entertainment followed suit But this was not Musk's first foray into white nationalist sentiment. Oh, oh yeah now Jew hate comes from white nationalists! There is a white nationalist all of the sudden? Well you know from South Africa it is easy to get that way but you see the leap they took from okay anti-Semite to white in the pickup truck In 2018 he suggested that Jews own the press

19:13 He has amplified racist memes on his site and reinstated extremist accounts. If the consequence of that is losing money, so be it. Musk has made no attempt... That's from the CNBC interview. That was really good. ...to walk back his latest comments. Walk it back! Linda Yaccarino, the CEO of X, did post that quote discrimination by everyone should stop across-the-board this morning even though White House waited in saying quote we condemn this abhorrent Did she say the White House waited in?

19:56 That was weird. Wade in, it would be way back. Crimination by everyone should stop across the board this morning even though White House waited in saying quote we waited in those which will be maybe she's trying to say waded yeah oh waited like waiting in the waters that wait a minute when I condemn this abhorrent promotion of anti-semitic and racist hate promotion strongest terms promotion runs against our core values as Americans 20 more seconds and then I want to go to Media Matters. This all comes, of course, against the backdrop of a huge surge in anti-Semitic sentiment across the U.S. From your voters! In fact just within the past 24 hours The Department Of Education launched discrimination investigations at seven schools including Cornell and Columbia after receiving complaints about anti-semitic and Islamophobic incidents

20:49 Oh, let's throw some Islamophobic. I haven't seen a single Islamophobic incident! Not a single one. They keep going back to that maniac that killed the little boy Oh yeah Before you play the Media Matters thing, you should play the PBS version of the same story only they took it from a different perspective They took it from the failed missile launch Which by the way had 33 engines on it It was a rousing success what are you talking about? 33! That's the magic number It was a success. I mean it didn't get past the firmament, but yeah... It blew up! It hit the dome man! Didn't make it past the firmament. Alright Musk rocket is that the one? Yeah Elon Musk's SpaceX got its biggest rocket off the ground in a test launch today But a pair of explosions just minutes into the flight destroyed both the booster rocket and the spacecraft

21:46 SpaceX officials say it appears the craft's self-destruct system blew it up over the Gulf of Mexico after a liftoff from South Texas. The flight lasted only about eight minutes, that twice as long as the first test in April which also ended with an explosion And Elon Musk got more bad news today as Comcast joined the list of advertising stepping away from his social media platform X, formerly known as Twitter over concerns that their ads were showing up next to anti-semitic content. Other companies pausing their ads on x include IBM Disney and Paramount Global. Musk has been accused of tolerating and even encouraging any semitic messages on x

22:23 He drew fire earlier this week for agreeing with a post accusing Jews of hating white people. So it's just not true I mean, it's just not true There's context that they've all erased but again No They've purposely done this and he be it That's why I wanted to play the PBS clip is just some more intellectual version of this clip you played and its bullcrap Well, you know what? I really like about about that explosion I think i have it here. SpaceX didn't call it an explosion. They have a term for it here. SpaceX, however says the test was a success and provided critical data needed to improve the launch system is the second test of these starship system that experience what spacex jokingly has called a rapid unscheduled disassembly Rapid unscheduled disassembly I like yeah that's humorous so like that So Deutsche Welle

23:21 Which this was really quite interesting because you know, you think the story is just being copy pasted here and everyone's saying he responded to a racist anti-semitic hate filled tweet. And said yeah that's true! Well by the time it gets across the ocean to Deutsche Welle and they have the bring in the media matters lady this is her name is Julie Millicam she makes $250,000 a year according to the form 990 over there at Media Matters. She's got she's decked out in some nice jewels looking good looking good but

23:56 But now it's even crazier. Bring it on, Deutsche! Since acquiring Twitter a year ago Musk has allowed conspiracy theories and hate speech to thrive. Thrive! And that is having... It's gone from amplifying to THRIVE! Yes, yes make it thrive! Each to thrive. And that is having some consequences today the EU Commission announced that it is stopping all advertising on X. Did you know that the European Commission advertises? What are they advertising?! I have no idea. They may have ads that show up in Europe but... New World Order coming! It's our ad! Who knows what they're advertising? Alright. Announced that it is stopping all advertising on X, its already launched an investigation into hate speech on the social media platform also today the White House condemned Elon Musk for what he called the abhorrent

24:56 promotion of anti-semitism. Now that was in reaction to a tweet posted by Musk endorsing a conspiracy theory that Jewish communities push quote hatred against whites now it's a conspiracy theory is getting better the farther away gets from the source the White House invoked the 2018 mass shooting at a Pittsburgh synagogue posting this it is unacceptable to repeat the hideous lie behind the most fatal act of anti-semitism in American history at any time let alone one month after the deadliest day for the Jewish people since the Holocaust okay so fat oh yeah just one second

25:43 You have to imagine being Elon Musk. Richest guy, all the money in the world you could do whatever you want and this keeps happening too because they're hounding you because of left is just relentless and it comes from left that comes from right is like they're pummeling you from every angle you don't know what's going to hit your next and its gotta be like there he's got to be so I mean, he seems to have enough of a sense of humor to get through it. But at the same time it's got to be like wow what are these people up to? What are they trying to do to me? You know, I have a little bit of thought that maybe he is just the classic heel in this game because thats kind of what it feels like. Elon you want more rocket contracts man? We're going to take you down a notch bro!

26:35 I mean, it's like but the thing is it's not like he did any. He's involved with Twitter so he retweets a lot of stuff because he likes to promote different ideologies but at the same time you retweet something and next thing you know your being blasted for... Well how about this for theory? This is the only theory that I can come up with. He wants to be your bank The main thing he has to do is keep people on the platform, keep them engaged in his platform. Keep his platform on their mind. Keep saying consistently X formerly known as Twitter that's free advertising and that's free rebranding for you right there

27:17 Until he has his bank stuff done. So this is gonna take him forever to get the bank thing going now Maybe maybe not I don't know no, I mean you can probably go a long time Anyway, let's cut the media matters lady because you know She's now talking to a journo Deutsche Welle journalist, you know top of the top of the journalist pyramid Oh, a journalist talking to journalists. That's the best well she's not really a journalist she's an activist but her problem is not at all and I'm just gonna say media matters they don't really care about the Jew hate They have a different agenda. This guy has some funny stuff to say too. Well, of course this guy's a stooge but he uh the way he presents the question is like it gets beyond you're still beating your wife. That gets better!

28:27 Since Elon Musk has taken over Twitter, he's made a series of decisions that have done nothing but increase hate extremism and conspiracy theories on the platform. Since his takeover one of the first things that he did was got his content moderation, his trust in public safety team that made it very difficult for them to be able to enforce their terms of service. He also has explicitly stopped them from enforcing their terms of service around certain... Why the chuckle? Why the chuckle there? Play that again. Play it again. ... explicitly stopped them from enforcing their terms of service around certain types... He has blocked them from enforcing their terms of service. And she's laughing about it! Yeah, and the thing that is interesting- It's his Terms Of Service what do you care?!

29:15 And she has a reason for it, but why do you care? It's his terms of service. It is not law. Yeah it's not yours. It's his terms of service! Okay let's go back. ...stopped them from enforcing their terms of service around certain types of content including anti-semitic content... He has reinstated extremist accounts that were previously banned on the platform. He himself has engaged repeatedly with conspiracy theorists, with people who have pushed anti-LGBTQ rhetoric and people who have endorsed antisemitic conspiracy theories to people who endorsed COVID 19 misinformation, the Lithgates on and on and the impact has been clear

29:55 The information ecosystem on X at this point in time is heavily skewed towards far-right extremism. Whoa, hold on a second! First of all the information ecosystem? Since when is Twitter information?! It's a social media site. It's garbage, it is what they all are but now it's skewing towards far right you know the people like Jews. It's playground for extremists. It's a playground! Oh wait...it's a playground? It's no longer an information ecosystem. It's a playground for these extremists. I got to throw one more little observation in the Democrat Party

30:40 is so freaked out because of all this pro-Palestinian protests at universities mostly. Yeah, we'll get to that. In and around there that they think they're losing the Jewish vote you've got to reestablish the old meme that right wingers are the Jew haters not us! Yeah, exactly. Not the kids at university we just have some investigations going on there We're just gonna we have opened investigations but Elon Musk racist anti-semite is heavily skewed towards far right extremism It's a playground for these extremists And it's become increasingly difficult to get any sort of reliable information on there and instead it's just flooded with hate bigotry lies Hold on a second

31:29 Did I miss something? Was there ever a point in time where you went to Twitter to get reliable information. She's complaining about that it is increasingly hard to get reliable, it is not It's not NBC or CBS or CNN, or ABC... Anything! PBS? NPR?! Whatever. It's not the elitist voices of America it's Twitter so what do you got your panties in a bunch for? Playgrounds for these extremists And it's become increasingly difficult to get any sort of reliable information on there. And instead, it's just flooded with hate bigotry lies and it's really unfortunate that by the way that we're in

32:12 What she's saying is gonna draw, it's gonna get more users. Well so this is what's interesting about Media Matters they don't care about the Jew hate they just hate Elon and they hate Twitter because it's no longer their playground remember when they had the backdoor and the government can just call them up and say, hey those guys are wrong. They're saying it wrong they got misinformation take them off cut them down get rid of all that remember when journalists had the blue check marks? The earned check marks! When we ruled the roost that's her problem and this DW douche agrees with that I want to bring in now Julie Milley sorry that's a wrong one three this one

32:55 Yeah, I say you know you can't even use it around your kids now. You have to you know maybe they should rename it Stop listen yeah, I see you know you can even use it or around your kids now Yes, do you know maybe they should rename an extra triple X? I mean It's gotten that bad what if we should rename a triple x wall The ways he implying you can't use her on kiss cuz is loaded with porn yes It's full of porn and she'll agree and must hate you know it's true And then he will tell you that it's true It's true. It should be triple X this is all in the name of free speech I'm wondering is that dirty free speech now should be labeled Triple-x really? Oh it isn't what's he trying to do by amplifying anti-semitic tweets, I mean I'm not asking you to get into his mind, but can you see a purpose here What's the purpose?

33:47 What is the purpose? I again, as you're saying. I can't get into Elon Musk's head all I can say is that the consequences the financial hits that the platform has taken due to his leadership and his own behavior has not changed the way that he is acted. It's not working! Everything we're trying is not working, we're trying to take his fin- give him financial hits it's not working oh my god as a propagandist she missed an opportunity there what was that when you say because of his leadership, you at that point you're supposed to say or lack thereof. Oh would have been so good yes yeah well Linda Iaccarino is the pain sponge she's he's the one that everyone gets to yell out okay so again this is a this is very interesting what's going on here he the financial hits

34:41 Because, you know even though it's a private company it's just obvious that how can he be- How can he do this? I mean how long can he fund this?! It has not changed the way that he has acted. Um...I think You know to your earlier points about it being uh Not a safe place for kids anymore It used to be! Not a safe place for kids anymore!? I haven't heard THIS accusation Is it not a safe space- Safe place for kids?? I don't know this. I don't know this either. I go on there and see what they're talking about is bullcrap! Yeah, but there's reasons... For kids anymore it used to be you know while it always had issues no social media platform hasn't It used to at least a good place that you could get information No, no it was never a good place for information And you could make find reliable information Reliable information? Really?!

35:36 You see, this is the problem. Media Matters is pissed because it's their job to make sure that whatever the message is from the state has to be reliable information It's their job to make sure everything is clean and the channel is clear And it used to be so good before Elon Yeah! That's why he fired all those jamokes who are in bed with the government. It used to be at least a good place that you could get information and you could make, find reliable information and again this is stuff that Musk has dismantled and instead has created an incentive structure to spread mis-and disinformation people need to buy the blue check marks that used to be used to verify accounts

36:24 so that you knew that the account spreading, you know posting was who they said that they were. That you could make a decision about whether or not they were credible now it is anybody who wants to pay for his subscription. It's a check mark. They get to say what they want and have an incentive now to make things go viral because if they get engagement, they get paid. And we've seen really have a dramatic impact in the ability to get reliable information during times of crisis, let alone just on the day-to-day basis. Oh I'm sorry you need to get reliable whenever there's times of crisis i go to twitter to get my reliable information

37:04 This has always made sense to me. Let's wrap this up with her true motive. Yeah, that is true I mean it used to be a place where you know the adults would go and now it's a place for the... Oh well it used to be where the adults would go John! The adults! The adults will go to Twitter! That's true I mean it used to be a place where you know the adults would go and now it's a place for the... Because you know us from the mainstream media we're the adults in the room. Entertainment industry goes a lot of the times. Is money, is that the only way we can hold these platforms accountable? Oh here comes the threat to everybody for what happens on their platforms I know legally they're not liable for the content but at the end of the day they do provide a place to park all the hate

37:47 Yes, this is true. I think at Media Matters one of the things that we have tried to do is undermine the profit motive structure that kind of incentivizes extremism on platforms... Hold on a second! Dedicated to comprehensively monitoring analyzing and correcting conservative misinformation in the US media has now turned into, oh yeah.

38:26 making it so profitable for people to spread hate speech that you could kind of reduce some of at least the volume of it. That is permitting on the platforms, this doesn't sound like they're holding to their mission there trying to hit them in the finances and I think platforms themselves and most of them are responsive to this. You know if advertisers do not want their content, their advertisements appearing next to controversial content, you know take a stand and they should take a stand. I think in the case of Musk, he has been bleeding advertisers since he took over the platform not just because of the decisions that he's made and what the content on the site is but just things that he had done himself you know? He is fairly erratic and it has not provided a brand safe

39:14 platform for advertisers. And I don't think for him that that has been, you know a motivating factor as I mentioned earlier to change his behavior and to change how he's running the platforms but it is for others so i think that other platforms are paying attention and should. Oh! Pay attention other platforms? That's interesting your right this is threat yeah oh yeah we're gonna hit you where it hurts with your advertisers other platforms Yeah, yeah. It's it's I mean...I guess it's okay for them to do that. I mean Musk has said, I'm filing a lawsuit! And what kind of lawsuits he is going to file? They're mean they're mean to my advertisers. I don't think he cares He just wants to keep everybody engaged and if it means he has to jump on that grenade every time That's what he does. I think it's fine. Um, I have one more of these from

40:06 CNN. I just like saying Poppy Harlow. Let's go from one hate to another... One hate to another! Remember when hate was just not profitable? It's just profitable now. Hate being spread online and that is a fact that the owner of X, formerly Twitter Elon Musk has endorsed this claim that Jewish communities push quote hatred against whites I think we can pull up the tweet and then you can see here's the tweet okay Jewish communities have been pushing Stop stop stop stopping

40:43 Is this a woman or man talking? It's Poppy. It's Poppy Harlow, it's a woman That's Poppy Harlow she sounds like a prepubescent dude Or a kid, a teenager boy I'm glad we stopped the clip for that She does! I mean I'm listening to you Wait a minute Just who calls their kids poppy I mean of all the names you considered for your kids. Maybe that's a wink-wink nudge, poppy like hey poppy. Oh you know pops? Hey pops! And here is the tweet okay Jewish communities have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want... See without the context of what that guy was responding too it's just bad journalism. Stop using against them and Musk's response as if he said the actual truth Errol

41:32 continues to be outrageous and shocking but no longer surprising. Elon Musk, who depending on the day of the week is the richest person on the planet would continue to sort of spread this kind of poison and then wonder why number one he's losing a lot of advertisers number two is loosing a lot of users... Wait a second I hate to be doing this but that guy sounds just like Cavuto! I think it is Cavuto. Cavuto's son Fox Who is it then? Let me see if I have a... He sounds exactly like Cavuto, and she sounds like a teenage boy. This is Errol Lewis, I think

42:13 Errol Lewis? And then wonder why, number one he's losing a lot of advertisers. Number two is losing a lot of users and number three he is sort of demeaning the whole role of social media that what started out in what used to be... Wait! What?! Demeaning the role of social with the social media has a role? Yes it's spread memes that's the only role it has. Well you'd say that Well that's what it is, he's demeaning the role which I think is gonna come back to News in a crisis. Demeaning the whole role of social media that what started out and what used to be, in the pre-Muslim era sort of a great place to connect with people and get information is now turning into something else altogether. It has become a cesspool, an enormous amount of value destruction but because there isn't actually it's important to have standards. You know you could say you want a free speech utopia but with all this sudden you pull the goalie when it comes to actually tracking disinformation misinformation

43:14 Pull the goalie? Isn't that a sex term for removing the condom. Oh, I've never heard that but it makes nothing but sense for it to be such. Hold on, I think this pull the goalie... Take off the condom dude! Here, Urban Dictionary pulling the goalie usually in reference to a married couple pulling the goalie means to stop the use of contraceptive devices in the hopes of conceiving a child derived from the hockey term What does this guy do? He may have kids soon.

43:50 Maybe this guy's thinking about two things at the same time. Maybe he is concerned his wife can't conceive. Maybe he is just a hockey player, I don't know. It seems unlikely but it sounds like one. He has become a cesspool and an enormous amount of value destruction but because there isn't actually...it's important to have standards. You could say you want a free speech utopia but with all this sudden you pull the goalie when it comes to actually tracking disinformation misinformation and you have an enormous amount of sort of bots and trolls dominating a platform, then real civic conversation goes down. And Musk is actually showing his cards as to what's happened with this platform. Yeah. When they show you who they are- Yeah, yeah totally. Believe them. Oh yeah when they show you who they are believe him! Believe him!

44:37 So this has, of course, started quite a lot of discussions. Discussions with social media platforms including the TikToks. A lot of conversations amongst my Jewish friends... Oh that's sorry that's not what I was looking for where is it? I have a... Sorry about that The, uh... Oh this one. Here it is. TikTok tells us in a statement, leadership has been meeting with creators and experts and others for feedback on how TikTok can remain a place for community discovery and sharing authentically. Hey man don't get any of that Elon juice on us man! We're good we're good bro we're good with you we're good with you we don't want it we don't want any bad stuff. You know was it not a

45:42 And note, no. You said on the last show something came up about it must have been a clip that kids were getting their news from TikTok? Right! So yes we was somebody's made the comment that new kids are getting news from TikTok and then I think jointly we decided that from the kid's perspective to gossip and crap that's on Tiktok represents news so we got a note from one of our Gen Z producers I'd like to share because the Gen Zer also gave us some examples. Uh, I'm a 21 year old listener of the show not a douchebag nice and an avid TikTok user as you and John have pointed out numerous times on the show much of my generation gets their news and information about current event sources on TikTok

46:31 Although many media outlets such as Sky News, CBS, MSNBC and all the usual suspects put their coverage of current events on TikTok in short and often dumbed down clips they don't seem to gain much traction. Instead certain people on TikTok have become what I like to call iPhone journalists who put out rapid-fire breakdowns of current events and developments that are catering to Gen Z's incredibly short attention spans. I've included a couple links to some examples These individuals are essentially an influencer version of large news conglomerates, but since they are just one person seem more trustworthy and honest than traditional media. Kind of like your buddy who's in the know and is just relaying information

47:13 All of this, in my opinion has resulted in much of my generation developing a false sense of being informed and many of them just having a surface level understanding of things. In summary TikTok is saturated with anecdotal information in very short rapid-fire format that's presented as fact while almost no real evidence is being cited at source and when evidence is being cited it's just an article from a big media outlet." And he gave us three examples all about a minute would you like to hear some? I would love it. Okay, we kick it off with the first iPhone journalist on TikTok Nick Jackson This is everything that happened on the news today But it's gonna be simplified in 60 seconds people are now mind-blown after discovering what the white dots and strawberries actually are a lot of people don't know this but strawberries Are actually not scientifically a fruit or berry

48:00 A lot of people think that the little white dots that are all over strawberries are the seeds, but the little white dots are actually the fruit part of the plant. That's crazy! Citizen scientists spot a close approaching asteroid professionals might have missed Basically there has been a lot of studies going on they've opened this up to the public so regular people can monitor this information and they caught this asteroid because of a blurring line in one of the images and obviously it is moving object because of exposure asteroid is not going to be anywhere close to hitting us at all, so don't worry. Time travel has just been completely ruled out for good by scientists the whole theory with this article is that scientists are saying that time is always moving forward therefore there's no way to take it back or move backwards sounds weird DoorDash is now issuing a strong warning against customers who do not choose to tip

48:41 They basically made an announcement and said that if you do not tip on your orders, they're less likely to be picked up. And your order might take forever to get to you. Obviously with all of the fees on DoorDash and everything a lot of people are upset but a lot of people also do agree with this so let me know what you think An expert just discovered that a Venus fly trap can eat human tissue and if you're like me You're wondering how in the world they tested that The man who owns this plant has a case of athlete's foot and he took a chunk of his toe gave it to the plant and it did digested I love this! Talk, talk to the top. Alright the next one... Now this guy does under-the-desk news He has his hair all spiked up kind of like something about Mary you know with the jizz in his hair all spiked up and he's on the ground under his desk

49:34 hence under the desk news, delivering the news to us and in this case it's important news about climate change. Climate change is messing up the beer y'all! Yes those frothy IPAs and European pilsners are hitting a wall and in decline and its all because of climate change A new study shows that European hops which gives beer its bitter taste is in decline Hops is one of the four crucial ingredients to making beer. And now, hotter longer drier summers are severely affecting the quality of that crop and it's going to lead to beer being more expensive and not as good tasting! I can't go much lower alright? I got priced out a whiskey when that market got super hot we got priced out wine when the wildfires in California started eradicating whole vineyards and that drove up the cost of wine

50:22 And now beer too? The Inflation Reduction Act is the largest investment in climate action in US history. It includes $369 billion dollars in investments for climate and clean energy projects, mostly in tax credits towards renewable energy that can help us be less dependent on fossil fuels but does he have anything there to protect the brewskis because I hope so! We laugh so that we don't cry. I mean, this is an incredibly serious topic and whether having a massive effect on our agriculture is not funny despite the recent acceleration of climate change we are still in the driver's seat and we still can make change So I know it can be really depressing out there when you keep hearing bad news But we have to keep trying! The future of climate is still up to us to decide

51:03 Okay, and the final I have to make a comment first. Yes yes first of all the guy's not gay enough We need to coach him So the second thing is the hops are very where we used to have some of the biggest hop Places were in I think Marin or Sonoma County used to be a town called Hopland Is in there and it used to be worried and hop kilns are still around from the I think from the 18th early 1900s late 1800s. And hops are interesting because they kind of go into it, you grow them a lot and they wear out their welcome

51:42 Something happens in the next, you can't grow hops around here anymore even though what you said it has nothing to do with climate. Hold on are you disputing climate change? I'm disputing the thesis so and so hops are now I hear about hops being grown here and there and at places where that you never heard of them they're all rare and great but no the hops anything about hops is your dealing with a screwball plant Our final clip is only 31 seconds long and its from an old favorite Who we've kind of lost track of. Do we remember Philip DeFranco? Philip Defranco... This is when I want to say, what was the video thing that Vine, Vines, Twitter had Vine. Oh, Vines yeah! That was gonna be the big killer Well it would have been

52:37 They couldn't stay with it. It was TikTok until they didn't like it, but the road is littered with mistakes like that Philip DeFranco was this fast-talking, you know he was one of the first guys to do the chop cut of all his stuff. When you hear him maybe you'll remember and he is now on TikTok doing his shtick China and Australia had a meeting in their leaders were essentially rising each other up she told the Australian Prime Minister that Tasmanian devils were cute and Albanese responded by saying if they weren't as cute as pandas then she apparently said that not all pandas are cute citing the Kung Fu Panda movies. The two also reportedly debated wine and its quality, with Xi saying that he visited New Zealand and that the wine was good, and Albanese saying that he asserted that the best red wine comes from Australia, and Albanese saying the exchange was very warm... And I mean, I heard they may have even sat next to each other in the booth! While so far there's no word on if a second date will be happening follow to stay in the loop

53:30 There you go. That's terrible! Yeah, that's what... and I'm just taking our Gen Z boots on the ground at his word but that is what this generation is using for news. Those guys have... even that last guy, I'm sure their numbers are huge Of course especially Philip DeFranco he's had quite a following for a long time yeah then it's great easy cheesy oh now I know what's going on that's good so good Sue and Elon. Okay, well you I hope you said we have a way to segue out of that because I can't think anything Well, I can only segway into Altman Sam Altman oh yes Yes, yes, yes, I have the I think I have some old thing but yes I want to start with your clips But I have a question first for you a quiz and ask John We don't have clips for that

54:24 It's an ask, John. And I just want to ask you as someone who has reported extensively been around been in the milieu so to speak of Silicon Valley and Silicon Valley companies can you recall a time when a board fired a CEO of a company that went from zero to some say $80 billion valuation with 49% ownership by Microsoft who invested 10 billion dollars which helped with the valuation without even telling their largest shareholder and then apparently is trying to get him back? Have you ever heard of this happening in Silicon Valley? Not with the part about not telling the largest shareholder, but I mean the firing of Steve Jobs is very similar.

55:16 when he was first fired from Apple. Yeah, but it wasn't like... Apple had problems! Open AI is nothing but hockey stick up and I mean valuation. So we're having dinner last Friday and JC is in the AI business with some companies working with which is a yes an AI company so he would have a better handle on this and he says nobody really knows They think it has something to do with the transfer from being a private company to a public company and something was screwed up in such a way that it was like there's some legal issues.

55:55 were discovered because Altman didn't know what he was doing at that point to help the transition. That's what the rumor is, and so he had to go because of due diligence had to get rid of him cause he made some horrible mistake in the process. Well it sounds like he lied. Yes well that would be a mistake. The board language in their press release was that he had not been consistently candid with the board, which I think is his couch code language for he lied. And then we asked him about it and he lied to us. Have you looked at the board? Have you looked at people on the board? No, I haven't. Oh, yeah who's on there? There are a couple of them that will talk about in a minute. Will Turd, I mean Hurd remember that guy was like oh yeah I'm a CIA special agent He ran for president for a little bit

56:53 Black guy from Texas? What's he doing on there? Yeah, I got- we'll talk about that if you play your clips. Okay we'll talk about that but just might as well get these clips out of the way so we have a little background. Yes okay The public face of the AI boom is now jobless This is who was this voice? This is one of the new NPR guys Now again my understanding is I don't know this to be a fact this is just supposition But before you get it now, when they hire you at NPR they actually take you into an operating room and cut your balls off. The announcement leaves a lot of questions unanswered. NPR Tech correspondent Bobby Allen is on the line to try and help us sort through some of them, hey Bobby! Hey Bobby! Hey Scott! So AI and chat GPD have gotten a lot of press but remind us about this key person here Sam Altman who is he? Sure yeah Sam Altman

58:01 Oh man, sure. Sure yeah. Sam Altman is this 38 year old tech executive who co-founded OpenAI about eight years ago with a handful of others including Elon Musk actually and the idea was to create a nonprofit research lab focused on ethically developing artificial intelligence almost like an answer to the profit driven ethos of big tech And it remained mostly quiet until last year when AI burst onto the scene, as you mentioned with ChatGPT. It quickly became the fastest growing app ever. It sparked debates on all sorts of industries from publishing to education to healthcare about how technology could be harnessed to upend how we live and work every day. While ChatGPT became one of the most viral tech products in history

58:48 Sam Altman was traveling around the world and talking about AI. He testified before Congress about the need for AI regulations, he became the focal point of attacks from AI skeptics. In short Scott, he was the most sought after and one of the most powerful executives in Silicon Valley. What do we know about why he was pushed out? Yesterday The company's board released a statement saying Altman quote, Was not consistently candid in his communication with the Board Of Directors but they stopped short on giving details Sam Altman was fired immediately. Now this was a surprise to the company's investors, employees and even Altman himself was taken aback I'm take- i'm shocked! I've been fired? I'm taking it back?! I'm taking it back So what I'm seeing everywhere is that they are working this weekend to get him...to have him come back to the company

59:41 I don't know if that's true. That would be because Microsoft stepped in and said, hey you want us just to...I don't know what kind of a threat they can make they already put their money in but it may some sort of threat and that's my guess now they're scrambling They seem pretty cavalier the way they did this Now when I observed this some people have noted it that this was almost immediately after he gave the speech at the APCA big meetup in San Francisco with Xi and Biden and the rest of them. Now, was there a speech that was public? Because I don't recall... I've been trying to find it but I can't find because maybe said something in there that was not... No, here's well I have my thoughts I think Buzzkill Jr is right. The one thing

1:00:37 That was just my initial thought, which there may be some truth to it is. Oh my God! All these demos have been rigged the shit doesn't work that's the first thing I thought. Well that's the first thing as someone with any experience with Silicon Valley that would be like oh my god oh my god it doesn't actually work The second thing but but but the counter to that is so what? When has that ever stopped anybody ah well That that brought me to a different trailer. Let me play the second clip you have another clip here Yeah, let's go on with the same part You know this all circles the question okay? What exactly did he do wrong and that's something we just can't answer right now Scott now I also heard from The same sources that Altman and the board got into a disagreement shortly before his ouster over the balance between keeping

1:01:25 open AI products safe and pushing them out to the public as fast as possible. In other words, Sam Altman wanted to keep releasing more and more of these powerful tools and some board members were worried that he was downplaying the risks to society but I have not confirmed that particular disagreement is what triggered his firing but it's really hard to overemphasize when i say that it's the chatter of the tech industry right now. Okay, that is in fact what I think The board is very different. So first of all, this started as a nonprofit whose entire mission was to protect... In fact let me pull up the OpenAI Form 990 to describe Here it is This is from the IRS tax filing OpenAI's mission is to build general-purpose artificial intelligence that benefits humanity unconstrained by a need to generate financial return

1:02:26 OpenAI believes that artificial intelligence technology has the potential to have a profound positive impact on the world. So, the company's goal is to develop and responsibly deploy safe AI technology—no pulling the goalie! Ensuring that its benefits are as widely and evenly distributed as possible." There is a nonprofit — this is the nonprofit — it controls the for-profit entity which is what Microsoft invested in. In fact, if you look at OpenAI's fundraising they were bringing in tens of millions of dollars I'm gonna scroll to that page real quick here... I can tell you over the past five years... where is it here?

1:03:14 Ah, here it is. 2017 33 million I'm rounding up 2018 49 million 2019 33 million 2020 2 million 2021 $3 000 So the non-profit just, you know basically is just a board. Reid Hoffman's on the board. Trump hater! Well it's ideologues... I'm gonna give you the whole breakdown of Board members directors we have I gotta zoom in a little bit here. This is from their Form 990, so it may have changed. Siobhan Zillis, Gregory Brockman who retired... He quit? He says hey man you're firing Sam, I'm out. Will Hurd, Reid Hoffmann, Holden Karnofsky Adam D'Angelo Tasha McCauley and Helen Toner Now these two are the giveaways They are both

1:04:16 students of Oxford and a literal product of effective altruism. Do you remember effective altruism? I think we broke them down once. Oh, oh i've gone very deep on effective altruism Because this is exactly what this company was the last day What are the last names of these two? Helen i have all this information for you if you want to look it up while we're talking that's fine It's helen toner uh she's the one that i'm going to focus on toner and Tasha mccauley I first, so Helen Toner was at the effective

1:05:00 altruism center, part of Oxford University in 2016. I have a little clip so you can just listen to her babbling about she's a young woman. Cool so as i'm sure you all know by now effective altruism is about doing the most good you can with the resources available to you and one strategy that gets talked a lot and talked about a lot within EA is earning-to-give which is increasing the amount of money you have access to which is one resource so you can do more good with that But working in and helping lead, and helping to grow an organization is I think a way to grow most other resources that you have access too. So by doing that you can grow the amount of time talent attention energy that you have access to so my hope is that this talk is relevant for anyone who might want to found a nonprofit Found a company lead a team Grow a team work in a team Any of that kind of thing? That's my hope

1:05:56 That said, I'm not focusing specifically on collaborating in small groups. So for the Berkeley students among you, I'm sorry. I wish I could tell you everything you need to know about how to do group projects painlessly but I can't. The most I can wish you is professors who let you choose your groups or at least give a peer feedback form. So keep this British accent in mind as she was speaking at... This was actually the Effective Altruism Group at Berkeley, your neighborhood 2016. Here's the same woman speaking five days ago at the 80,000 Hours Institute which is another effective altruism outfit. Yeah it does seem like there is something quite odd to talk about. This is not her obviously

1:06:40 or to really emphasize an arms race in a technology that as far as I can tell is predominantly used now by kind of companies, to like suggest videos for you to watch and like music that you're really gonna like. Far more than it's being used for military purposes at least as far as I can see at the moment. Do you agree with that? Yeah! I do agree And i think also In general people again with overestimating short term effects This is the same woman as this Yes Um...I'm not focusing specifically on collaborating in small groups Right now, the machine learning systems that we have seem so poorly suited to any kind of battlefield use because she has electroshock therapy between then and now. I'm telling you she's been sucked into Silicon Valley. She's been molded. She's been she I mean listen to this. Well her cadence or voice cadence is part of a different milieu than the original voice cadence? Yes And the British accents gone yes it's completely gone. She is she has morphed into this AI expert

1:07:35 but she still comes from the effective altruism background, which is not Sam Altman. Sam Altman he comes from Y Combinator. Sam Altman he's the guy that said hey we've remember when Elon left? Elon left out of disgust! He said hey man you're not doing what we do AI is going to eat the world this is what effective altruism is about they believe that it is their job to put millions of dollars into nonprofits or into policy makers' pockets, politicians so that we can make regulations like the executive order that they got out of Biden to protect human beings who've not even been born yet from the evils of the world. I'm going to remind you of this with a clip from episode 1605 You might remember The France 24 Technodouche

1:08:32 And that is exactly the type of person who was involved in what this techno douche at France 24, he's going to explain to us and he's going to connect it to some other techno douches. This is how we connect Sam Bankman-Fried and AI with the term effective altruism. Joining me on this set is our technology editor Peter O'Brien, hello to you Peter. What can you tell us about the surprising links between these two events SBF and UK's AI Summit? What do they have in common? Yeah I was wondering how we could link these together but actually there's a simple way to do it You may not have heard of it

1:09:11 but it's the social movement called effective altruism. It is boffin-filled and increasingly powerful. That power took a hit when Sam Bankman freed the most high profile effective altruist, and one of the movements biggest donors fell from grace But as we've seen from the AI Summit in Bletchley Park this week, we can see that effective altruist talking points are still making their way up the policy agenda. One in particular is the potential for artificial intelligence to cause catastrophic harm a risk that would not be on the policy table at all were it not for the work of effective altruists Now I should add a disclaimer here that I've been briefly involved in the movement in France and donated to some charities that are popular among effective altruists

1:09:56 Now, he's never going to mention them but what he is saying is effective altruism. People donate a lot of money for the good of humanity, for the good cause because we care about the world that's what Sam Bankman-Fried really should be accused of doing Thanks to his the egging on of his parents. He was literally giving it to his mother for effective altruism Which does a lot of really good things including this whole AI scam? We get to the point where effective altruism is producing one of the biggest frauds in history It's also becoming a major policy debate so Policy is code for politics The only way to really explain this is to take you back through the intellectual history of

1:10:38 the movement. So, the founding idea of effector altruism is simple and it's persuasive in order to do the most good with your time and money you shouldn't just think about your close circle of friends and family, you shouldn't just think about your community or country... You should really be taking into consideration all humans the world because we all suffer in a similar way. If Trump's president, we all suffer in a similar way. A classic example of putting this into practice would be rather than donating money to local fire station. No don't do that! Don't donate locally! Whoever happened to think global act local? No no no yeah hold on it's almost here. They local?! No come on France douche! Well they'll be using the same amount to buy much more mosquito nets

1:11:21 people from malaria, of course. That's a classic. But rather than just caring about humans, effective altruists quickly realised that the same principle should be applied to anything that can suffer right? So that could be an animal, that could be a wild animal, that could even be a human not alive today. A future human! In the future, so that's where we get to this situation where there are lots of effective altruists today who are also long-termists that means people who are concerned with welfare of humans and animals that don't yet exist but could exist in the future So this is... Oh my god you're getting clip of the day for this piece of shit. Oh yeah they put that in there I had to end it somewhere Yeah sure

1:12:05 So here's what I think happened. This board is all, most of them are these effective altruists they totally believe in this stuff and by the way there is a lot of weird sex stuff going on in this. The Economist did articles on it that you know they have these polycules...the same thing Sam Bankman Freed had in The Bahamas! This was going on in San Francisco This is Time Magazine. Effective altruism promises to do good better, these women say it has a toxic culture of sexual harassment and abuse. Let's see this woman she noticed the EA members in the Bay Area seem to work together live together and sleep together often in polyamorous sexual relationship with complex professional dynamics

1:12:55 Three times in one year, she says men at informal EA gatherings tried to convince her to join these so-called polycules. When she said she wasn't interested they would shame her or try to pressure her casting monogamy as a lifestyle governed by jealousy and polyamory as a more enlightened and rational approach." Yeah yeah. And so Sam Bank & Fleet... I love these old pictures go back to the 50s Bankman Freed was, I mean and these women they also were connected to Alameda. The Alameda people came from this Oxford

1:13:33 effective altruism group and they were using Alameda as the gateway from stealing the billions of dollars from investors and giving it to effective altruism. There you have Sam Bankman's Freed parents who are like, oh yes, effective altruism put me on the payroll for $1 million and put millions of dollars into my super PAC so we can stop Donald Trump to protect future humans Oh yeah, he's a threat to democracy. You know that? I mean it's unbelievable how deep this goes and i think that after the blow up of Sam Bankman Freed and FTX like holy crap we got a good thing going here we can't have Altman who went on stage...I think it was before the Xi meeting

1:14:18 and said, oh at Dev Day hey you know it's not all that dangerous. You can have an app in my App Store! And they went oh my god everyone is going to find out this thing is lame This thing is a scam. It doesn't really do that much Listen to um... Do you want to listen to this toner woman a little more? She's talking about AI and I mean she had the... Here she went to Do we have pictures of these people? Yeah, yeah. She looks like a cute British pale chick Helen Toner is a member of the National Security College Futures Council as director of strategy at Georgetown's Center for Security and Emerging Technology spook she previously worked as a senior research analyst at the Open Philanthropy Project where she advised policy makers and grantmakers on AI policy and strategy

1:15:12 Between working at open philanthropy, which I'm sure is that not a Soros deal sounds like it. I don't think it is But as one of you betted should I'm looking at the background of this stuff too And it seems to all stem from Sam Bankman free money yes Listen to this between working at open Bankman freed must have been a moron he was a boy He was an artist he would they abused him and He's in jail for being abused by mainly his parents. Between working at Open... No, all these other people should be in jail with him. ...Open Philanthropy and joining CSET. Helen lived in Beijing studying the Chinese AI ecosystem as a research affiliate at Oxford University Center for the Governance of AI

1:15:59 Helen has written for Foreign Affairs and other outlets on the national security implications of AI. And machine learning for China and the United States as well as testifying before the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission, maybe that's where Altman said something wrong. Helen holds a BSc in chemical engineering and a diploma in languages from the University of Melbourne." So this is a programmed woman! Listen to her here... Right now the machine learning systems that we have seem so poorly suited to any kind of battlefield use because you know battlefields are characterized by Having highly dynamic environments highly unpredictable. There's an adversary actively trying to undermine your perception and your decision-making ability And the machine learning systems that we have are just so

1:16:47 So far from ready for an environment like that. They really are pretty brittle, they're easy to spoof, they do unpredictable things for confusing reasons so I think really centering AI weapons as the core part of what we're talking about is definitely premature. Sounds a little bit... maybe Sam was overhyping this stuff and everything is like a cult Like you have to tithe, if you make under $50,000 a year you have to give 1% to the effective altruism charities. The approved charities like the Mosquito Nets. This is a cult! If you make up to 50 million dollars you should be giving away 53 percent of all your money It's a cult it's a sex cult These people are weird

1:17:33 And they're on the board. Weird! They're on the board and Altman, now I'm actually thinking Altman might be a pretty good guy because he's like hey i can make money with this thing we got Microsoft in here we've got billions of dollars okay you can have a little bit for your little... He's probably, do you know where he's gonna end up? Dead? Microsoft yeah and Microsoft sucks guys like that up like there's no tomorrow my he's going to be at Microsoft so the CTO who took over Her name is Mira Murati. And I have a little bio here of Mira Murati, she so she was the chief technology officer. She developed chat GPT Dali and if you can't here's what's cool. Mira Murati m i r m u r a t i If you go to m i r m u r a t i m i r m

1:18:36 Okay, hold on. M-I-R-A Mira Murati M-U-R-A-T-I And if I go to chat GPT where i am right now and I type in who is Mira Murati it comes back as of my last knowledge update in January 2022 I do not have specific information about an individual named Mira Murati she's the chief technology officer of the company that makes this thing Have you seen pictures of her? Yeah yeah yeah I got a picture here So she has explicitly filtered herself out. That's very funny It's suspicious is what it is You think? So there is something very deep, very wrong and I have a boots on the ground from one of our producers

1:19:29 who says, he sent me a really long note. I'm going to take a few paragraphs more than you ever wanted to know about effective altruism because he was a part of it but he left uh a few years back because he says it got weird um effective altruism falls out of a community called less wrong less wrong is or was is best described as a male self-improvement cult for autistic Jewish programmers. Dude, this is so good! How about that? Sam Bankman Fried anybody? It was started by a fellow named Eliezer Udawski who drew inspiration from rabbinical teachings and combined it with, for lack of a better word extremely autistic navel gazing in order to write a bunch of guides on cognitive biases human failings and how to overcome them

1:20:17 The less wrong community has a few foibles. One of them is that they are way too naive and trusting, so over the past five to ten years they've been co-opted by the same trans Marxist woke stuff that everyone else has been captured by So now AI risk has been co-opted from what it actually was to how do we make AI not right wing? This makes so much sense. When EA started, the sales pitch was pretty simple most charities bullcrap you donate to some local charity they spend 80% of the money on overhead and the remaining 20 percent of the money on say a statue in the town square if you really like statues and wasting money that's cool but if you're someone who really wants to do the utilitarian best thing with your money that's not cool

1:21:00 In any case, this sort of arguing over what the real utility function is was the best vector by which politicization came in. Then AI started becoming a big deal and the powers that be noticed that this organization has spent the last 15 years basically declaring themselves the experts of AI! This is where all these weird children come from That's my editorializing. The powers that be did what they do and co-opted everything, most of the less wrong EA people were too naive and trusting to understand what happened and got snowed then SBF happened and that takes us to where we are today I think i might have written you about them before this is the community came up with the biohacking idea that a bunch of sad lonely men who can't get dates could date each other if only they could reverse conversion therapy themselves into being gay

1:21:50 I love it. And then there's the last thing that, uh, I'm sure you know you said Microsoft but I have a report here Altman has been looking to raise tens of billions of dollars for Middle Eastern sovereign wealth funds to create an AI chip startup according to a person with knowledge of the investment proposal. Altman was also courting SoftBank Group Chairman Mayoshi San for a multi-billion dollar investment in a new company to make AI oriented hardware, in partnership with formal Apple designer Johnny Ive! The board may have been put off by Altman raising funds off of OpenAI's name and these new companies not sharing the same governance model as OpenAI. I think that is what happened here

1:22:36 You've got Bank, um... you've got Altman who's a commercial guy. And he's like, you know let's just go. We got something here it's not great but it does fun stuff It's a cool chat bot we're hot we can make billions and billions of dollars He had zero equity in open AI this was his chance and then the polycules went No! We can't have that it's not good for humanity And then, you know of course they pulled the plug on this guy and all the other commercial smart people in the company went yeah we're walking goodbye. You're firing Altman? We'll just go to his next company I think that's kind of what JC said is probably right

1:23:25 But these people. Yeah, I mean that is a definite possibility but these people who are on the board and these effective altruists... Oh they've got to go those people were just you know but then i think this we there's a lot of people in government There's a lot of these creeps that are all over Silicon Valley and elsewhere that are really they're all I think you nailed it sex cultist yes yeah when you look at these people and they all you're right Very pleasant looking women. Mm-hmm who look like he easily be part of any sex cult that's ever been around All of them including Maradi and a bunch of dorks Yeah, it's perfect does exactly what sex cults tend to be yeah and one or two charismatic males Well, it's like 75% male on these guys are making out they got lame chicks everywhere Living in with him

1:24:23 I mean, that Time magazine is horrible. I don't even want to repeat some of the things that happened to these women in these polycules It's really bad! Polycules? They brought in some Silicon Valley mediator when there was a sexual harassment claim and this was right around the time of Me Too Harvey Weinstein stuff And she actually had it...was in a relationship with the guy who was being accused And then she said, oh well you can't. You shouldn't go to the authorities that's not good That could break up the polycule Wow just wow and I think Elon Musk is one of these EAs With all the different women he has and the rules for dating him and all the rest ya think? And his whole AI is gonna eat the world He's one of them or at least he's feigning to be one An effective altruist

1:25:27 Yeah, even though there's no true evidence. No but I just remember listening to the whole Sam Altman interview on Joe Rogan and I was so underwhelmed like everything was like yeah maybe five years maybe ten years yeah i don't know maybe it's gonna be kind of good and Joe is like well we should have an AI president! It's all going to happen! It'll be great! Well, Joe was probably toking up a bit. He's excitable! Yeah he is excitable and Alton was just not... And you know he's the perfect Silicon Valley douche. He's perfect. He's the messiah so it'll be interesting to see what happens but this board and this open AI I mean i think they're toast It'll be just the second in a

1:26:21 And this is all tied to politics. Isn't it kind of public domain already? Yeah, I mean, I have models running that's another part of the problem and i'm sure it was effective altruists at Meta who released these models in open source so that I can now run 10 of them on my machine here at home because they were thinking exactly this oh we can't let someone like Sam Altman you know commercialize this too much! I guarantee if we dig deep enough we can find out that it was effective altruists who did this long-termists Which is just insane. This is transhumanism in a way, these are transhumanist people and now they're transmaoists and ah! It's sickening That's disturbing maybe Yeah well disturbing I'm just blown away by it And then these

1:27:22 You know, the politicians they were oh yeah we'll make some legislation. We'll put some policy in there just give me 10 million bucks. Sam Bankman Freed was giving money to all kinds of people on the right and the left Oh yeah! No no we agree with you Sam sure that's what went wrong That's and yes and you're right that kid was an autistic Just an artist. It doesn't mean he wasn't smart, but yeah I just see all those guys at Sequoia Capital He was playing games from the pitch meeting the guy's a genius This is totally the anyone should read Jersey Kaczynski being there or see the movie with Peter Sellers and you can understand this These idiots who misinterpret things? You know

1:28:14 You know, he's just disheveled. He looks like shit. He's crapping his pants and playing a game during a pitch meeting? Must be a genius! And you know with all this military industrial complex stuff being woven throughout this board including H.E.R.D., you got to think that the military is all... I don't know man The more I read, the more I see. The more of thinking it's good you know can write some code it can do that for sure It is great a Bible scripture You know does other things quite well but I listen to these podcasts where people are trying out the latest models and yeah I fed a whole book into it and after 18 thousand tokens then starts to forget stuff in the middle I mean... I know people who use this stuff for spreadsheets

1:29:06 It was like, well one time out of 50 it gets the calculation wrong but so we'll use it anyway. Like what? Use a spreadsheet! It's just not an excellent product...it's cool and it can kind of simulate a person. Does art? And I think actually Altman's idea is, of an app store is probably pretty good you know let me create an app and my app would be all the no agenda information so we feed the transcripts and all the articles into it and then you can get replies as it would have been discussed on No Agenda and part of it will be just as wrong as we've been wrong

1:29:45 But at least it's very rare. You're giving it a lot of credit! What? What's rare there? We've been wrong! Never, we're never wrong! Anyway, here's ABC with some AI news. Our buddy Becky Worley. A new report on the safety of artificial intelligence. Nonprofit media reviewer Common Sense Media has a new rating system for different AI-based products and how safe or unsafe they may be for your kids. Becky Worley breaks it all down A new AI rating system created by non-profit Common Sense Media. It evaluates a wide range of AI products with varying degrees of interactivity, looking at privacy bias and misinformation in apps commonly used by children The best reviews went to AI products for education like Elo which uses speech recognition to help children read from a limited array of books Apps offering wider services were less favorably rated

1:30:46 Our thanks to Becky Worley for that and with AI, apps used by kids. The more I think about it, our producer is spot on that the only thing that politicians really want right now from AI is to make it spit out Democrat talking points and don't give anything right wing! Don't promote anything conservative, make it all trans-Marxist, trans-Maoist That's all they care about. Let's just make sure the answers are correct, okay? You can take a look at Meet Our Team, the executive leadership team of this Common Sense Media and you can just take a look at them and say yep to what you just said! It's a big group too, Common Sense. Huge! And they all look like Democrats. Yeah it's a big group

1:31:38 Well, that reminds me since you're bringing that up let's go to the real threat. You're overlooking all this Oh no there is an actual threat somewhere Yeah it says...you know that Ali Akbar whatever that guys name is on MSNBC Ali Velsher? No, that's it. Ari Velsher! Is it no Ali... That's Ali yeah. No, Ali Velsher is it Ali Velsher? Yeah well he's taking over for O'Donnell because he's on vacation because of course his vacation time for everybody but us oh yeah nobody thanks us for the let's go with MSNBC That's why he got Ali Akbar on greatest threat.

1:32:26 What? Deepening fears of whether China might invade Taiwan while America is indirectly supporting two major wars. Extreme political polarization around the world and here in America, not to mention a climate crisis that threatens the habitability of our very planet so much is going wrong. So much threat around us, which one is the most serious threat to global stability? None of the ones I mentioned. The greatest threat to the stability of the world right now remains a twice impeached multiply indicted former president of this nation Donald Trump is the greatest threat the world faces. Alright there you go then you nailed it on that one

1:33:06 Who sent you that? You don't watch MSNBC. Stay out of my turf! I heard about this clip and tracked it down. Stay out of my turf, what are you doing on my grounds?! Go away! So the greatest threat facing humanity and the world... Now he didn't have that let's just get that he didn't have the whole lineup he said a double... The greatest threat to the stability of the world right now remains a twice impeached, multiple indicted former president of this nation. Donald Trump is the greatest threat the world faces Yes. The whole world faces this threat, ladies and gentlemen! He doesn't follow up if you want to hear more? Yes I do. Then cut it off because it's just too much. Oh that's good Donald Trump is the greatest threat the world faces Here's why Those real global crises I mentioned actually hang in an extremely delicate balance with President Biden steady hand on the wheel

1:34:04 As chaotic as things may seem right now, ask yourself how much worse do they get with Donald Trump in the White House? He's on the case. Joe Biden is with Ukraine. He's redeveloping a relationship with Xi in China. He sure has annoyed a lot of people at home with his Israel policy but he has created more space for an American president to influence Israel than we've seen in awhile and he has a real commitment to solving the climate crisis Here's how those situations could play out with Donald Trump at the helm, according to a recent piece by The Economist. Quote, knowing that America would abandon Europe Mr Putin would have an incentive to fight on in Ukraine and pick off former Soviet countries such as Moldova or the Baltic states

1:34:47 Without American pressure, Israel is unlikely to generate an internal consensus for peace talks with the Palestinians. By asserting that America has no global responsibility to help deal with climate change Mr Trump would crush efforts to slow it and he is surrounded by China hawks who believe confrontation is the only way to preserve American dominance Now of course, this is all extracted from an article in the piece-of-shit magazine The Economist which is run by that woman Zanny Bados who's a just a ridiculous Marxist for all practical purposes and she's just all over. And she hated Trump when he was in office! And she's hated all Republicans ever since she got the job I think if she started working there 94?

1:35:41 Promoted to editor-in-chief around toward 2005 or something like that So that's where they're getting this the economists is already concerned about Trump Well, I mean somehow they have to spin all this To discredit Trump again. I'm a Elon is okay In fact now would be the time for Trump to get back on top posting on Twitter This would be a good moment for him to start doing them Yeah Yeah, maybe. Because he's kind of you know... if anything I think President Trump is sitting like crap man they're not talking about me! I need some juice here. Elon what can we do? Elon is getting all the attention this is not good. We have two Trump clips that you want to bring it up but can I just oh yeah okay Oh we'll come back to Zelensky in a moment sure sure Trump Trump Trump Trump Come back to what were gonna do? I was going to come back to Zelenskiy

1:36:42 Trump. Trump trials won leaked confidential videos of former Trump lawyers could shake up the Georgia election interference case no from NPR this is Trump's trials I'm Scott Detro. This is a persecution, violations for national security laws we need one more indictment to close out this election Once a week we talk through the latest developments in the legal trials of former President Donald Trump. We have updates on the New York civil trial and January 6th federal election interference case that will get to in a moment, but this week the main focus is that Georgia election interference case remember this is the racketeering Rico case against Trump and many other co-defendants

1:37:32 Four of those co-defendants have taken plea deals already. And now with these leaked videos, we've learned more about the conversations inside the White House between Election Day and Inauguration Day. Man that guy sounds like... Ben Shapiro slowed down by 1.5 very interesting observation yeah, well before we play clip 2 you might want to know what you're listening to its NPR No this is the new and play this clip. This is the teaser for it new NPR podcast Oh, whoa. Everybody is also just really hard to follow. So we have created Trump's trials a new NPR podcast hosted by me where we break down the big news from each of Trump's cases and talk about what it all means for democracy. Each episode is about 15 minutes and we are sharing the latest one with you here today. This really sounds like so. You're right. He sounds exactly like a slowed down Ben Shapiro. Exactly.

1:38:33 That's pretty interesting, yeah. So they have a podcast? Do they have ads on this podcast? So this particular podcast is about some leaked videos and I'm thinking leaked videos of what? It turns out to be leaked videos of the depositions And the lawyers talking to each other? Big deal. So here's part two, and they have actually one of the leaked videos and it's pretty lame. And that's where the news was as part of that cooperation. The defendants sat down for lengthy interviews with prosecutors to tell them what they know. And this week several of those interviews including conversations with key Trump lawyers Sidney Powell and Jenna Ellis were leaked to ABC News

1:39:15 Dominica, what were the main headlines from these tapes? Well seeing Jenna Ellis sort of flip on Trump was really notable and saying that she'd heard from one of Trump's aides Dan Scavino that the boss isn't going to leave office. Really kind of a fascinating thing to show sort of Trump state-of-mind and how much he really wanted to stay in power But Melissa, Trump's legal team was pretty quick to respond to that saying Who cares what this aide said in a sense because for all the other things that happened, Trump did leave office. He didn't hold himself up on the White House he didn't try to remain president. No that's right and you can imagine what the response to this would be at trial um you know one to discredit Jenna Ellis as someone who

1:39:58 has a real incentive to play nice with the prosecution, but also someone who may not actually be that truthful herself. She was formerly a co-defendant. They will also I think note that this was a statement that Jenna Ellis heard from someone else Dan Scavino she did not hear this from Trump himself So it doesn't actually go To provide clear evidence of Trump's own mindset with regard to staying in power or leaving peacefully. So wait, they do a 15 minute a day podcast about a video, a leaked video which we have no audio of. Which actually wasn't something someone said but it was someone telling that was Jenna Ellison third party information. This guy told me that his sister told him that and I heard from so-and-so that so-and-so knew that somebody else knew something and something and something. And we don't even have a clip? No! I looked for a clip i couldn't find it So Mike Johnson

1:40:54 Man, what a generic name. Mike Johnson the Speaker of the House released the tapes! So there's 10 thousand hours or 40-30 million hours of videotape that is being released to the public 90 hours at a time and everybody's like whoa look at this oh everyone's gonna get out of jail now And so everyone's looking at these things. It was getting out of anything and of course, you know Everyone's just go look at us Look at all this all but it was not an insurrection and it's gotten so bad now with this blatant lie about Insurrection remember Remember that this was worse than 9-11 So this is actually worse than October 6th October 7th

1:41:40 January 6th worse than October 7th in Israel according to their logic Dana Bash on CNN made a big boo-boo and man the control room jumped on her. In fact, who's the new lady Lopez from she's PBS? Oh yeah, the Lopez girl. She's a PBS... She got a million front names. She got one of those Catholic names I just call her Lopez Yeah so she is on the panel with Dana Bash What is she doing there Well isn't that what you- Who's her agent? She came out of nowhere. So listen to Dana Bash screw it up, the control room jumps in and then Lopez bails her out Now to an antiwar rally that turned violent This was the scene outside the Democratic National Committee headquarters right here in Washington last night Protesters were demanding a ceasefire in Gaza but ended up clashing with police

1:42:36 three House Democrats were all inside the building at the time and had to be evacuated. It's another sign of the growing divide among Democrats over President Biden's handling of the Israel-Hamas war, our great reporters are back and Laura I mean that isn't quite an image we haven't seen an image like that since January 6 totally different topic, totally different kind of people. I don't want it all compare the... Lopez, bail her out! But the idea that there was violence and that there were Capitol Police officers actually hurt there. I believe they're about six Capitol Police officers that were injured according to the Capitol police that put out a report last night but

1:43:18 There is a there are key differences. Okay, very January that's good but it was a clash and the protesters or the ralliers were And the exit ways and that's why police confronted them and tried to get them to move because people couldn't exit or enter and not just People like this law may house Democrats most senior House Democrats in the job Lopez It's unbelievable I mean no, it's I wouldn't compare to that more That's no good. People are going insane! They're going insane, I got something else here... Right so this is a lot of this is happening on CNN. I think CNN has haven't looked at the ratings they're probably enjoying some better than normal ratings with this stuff. There's so much to go live too you know like oh we're here live here

1:44:16 So we have this problem with our universities, which I think if you've listened to the No Agenda program you've probably noticed this as well. We have a trans-Maoist movement that is captured and it's the educators who are then riling up these kids and it's now two generations of college students And now it's come back to bite the Democrats specifically in the butt because they're calling Joe Biden, their president a genocidal maniac. And so we need to do something about this and you know just want everyone to know that we're going to have to do some investigation of these colleges.

1:44:58 Education has launched investigations into seven schools after receiving complaints about alleged incidents of anti-Semitism and Islamophobia. No, there's no complaints of Islamophobia that's a lie you're just putting that in there just to make it sound like it but isn't... That gets balanced yes. Incidents of anti-semitism and islamophobia that is according to an administration official the investigations include five anti-semitism cases and two islamophobia cases among the schools, K through 12 school in Kansas and six colleges including Cornell Columbia and the University of Pennsylvania. Why? Where's Harvard and all those guys that left them out college campuses Columbia they left those out in a rise intention over the Israel Hamas war joining us now to discuss all this education secretary Miguel Cardona we appreciate your time sir thanks for coming here I know you've said in the past that there was an uptick in basically the filing of concerns about this

1:45:52 How many investigations do you think that will lead to? We already have these initial batches. Are more coming? Yeah, I anticipate more are coming. Look thank you for having me here Phil First of all you know we take the responsibility very seriously to protect students freedom to learn in an environment that's free of hate Freedom to learn? What does this Department of Education have to do with the management of these colleges The White House needed someone to go out there and say someone somewhere with school cred Say talk about investigations They have nothing to do with these are private institutions. Well, even the public ones aren't governed by that department. It's a PR... They have to get the word out Elon is the true... Elon is a bad guy and Biden is not genocide Joe No we're trying to fix this because everyone has the freedom to learn Not freedom of speech We know that Students' freedom to learn in an environment that's free of hate

1:46:53 and the feeling of threatening. We've spoken as students at different universities, but we have never met a student who has said that he's afraid to speak out against his own family or friends. and the feeling of threatening. We've spoken to students at different universities, we've been in over five different states listen to them... It's not even a right that's not a term doesn't mean it is the freedom of threatening? Yes! The freedom of threatening. This is making stuff up?! I would say that's correct yes of course of course we need to get the word out there look we can't get through on Twitter anymore because there's no more good news

1:47:34 You can't communicate through Twitter so we have to do it through, oh well CNN. Did you hear that the Biden team has put a... or the Biden has put a team together? So they can push the Biden agenda and the Biden messages on TikTok Oh of course! The Team Halo We're getting the band back together Of course! Yeah makes sense Students freedom to learn in an environment thats free of hate and the feeling of threatening. We've spoken to students at different universities, we've been in over five different states listening to parents and students who feel under attack and threatened learning and we take that very serious where civil rights agency and were protecting the rights of students alike

1:48:14 There is a civil rights agency. There is civil rights agency? Yes, yes. The Department of Education is a civil rights agency? Title VI baby! How do you find the balance here in the sense of free speech versus discrimination it's been a gray area forever and certainly not getting easier to figure out right now You have actual tools and enforcement power here What is the balance there? A threshold? They have enforcement power They have enforcement power over universities? Under what US code? I don't know. Section 230? What enforcement powers do they have? Title VI. Do they have a police department? I'll bet you they got guns, if they do... ...they got guns! You know and if they do they have guns yeah We're bringing together college leaders and K-12 leaders uh well we're getting great examples Well what's a K-12 leader? A social studies teacher in the fifth grade?!

1:49:11 K-12 leader. I want a business card that says hi, I'm Adam Curry k through 12 leader Yeah Wow that's impressive are you an enforcement agency? Yep well what they need To know is number one, they have to be open and honest about what's happening on their campus. Communicate with students communicate with families regularly be visible and recognize that while students do have the right to express themselves there's a threshold that has to be communicated very clearly what they can't do The resources we have online are available to them our offices are available for technical assistance We want to support them in this work but at the end of day

1:49:48 They're not protecting students. We are going to investigate and if we have to, we will withhold dollars. And you're forebeing that... We will what? Hold on. We will withhold funds? Protecting students. We are gonna investigate and if we have to, we will withhold dollars. I can't understand what he's saying. Is he saying funds? ...investigating. If we have to, we will withhold dollars. And your forebearing that it is very clear they know the line. You guys lay out the line. You've detailed the line And if they cross the line or the line gets crossed, they should be aware. There is a line we can work with them to make sure that based on their situation they're getting the support that they need but they need to be clear Maybe it's more clear in this clip from The View who had Alyssa Fara Griffin No is that uh no

1:50:31 That she's from The View. I don't know, oh uh... No this is on The View i think isn't it? Yeah no um Dr- These are the Trump sellout. Yes Miguel Cardona I guess let's listen maybe the ladies of you will clear it up for me We're taking this very seriously we announced last night seven Open investigations, we're going to be very transparent. Yeah the same guy yeah same guy with which schools are now being investigated that information is gonna be public Clearly this is a PR campaign because it goes from CNN to The View We've got to communicate to the mothers and the housewives of the world who watch The View That this will not stand, we are not Genocide Joe, we are the good guys This can't happen

1:51:10 and pay attention because we're gonna come for you children. We're taking this very seriously, we announced last night seven open investigations were going to be very transparent with which schools are now being investigated that information is going public. Does he tell us the seven schools? He's gonna be very transparent. He's got seven schools in their sights Who are the schools let's find out which schools are now being investigated that information is going to public We're gonna work with college presidents with superintendents we're gonna talk to students, we're gonna get through this at the end of the day The freedom to learn in a safe environment is something that we're going to protect here. And if I may ask you, are you able to share how many complaints the Department of Education has gotten over this? Sure! You know, we've gotten more in the last month than all of last year when it comes to these topics. Wow! How many is it?! Not wow...wow...how many three

1:52:01 Is it a 3,000? Wow. Seven! Wow. You know several he said. You know we've gotten more in the last month and all of last year when it comes to these topics so what we're doing right now is going through the process investigations or their requests for investigations to see whether we open them are not... We opened seven yesterday I anticipate many more this is this is really This is an outrage. The government is coming after students for them protesting at schools I don't care who you're protesting, that's wrong! That was resolved in the 60s with the free speech movement at Berkeley Did they bust some heads?

1:52:45 Oh, they busted a lot of heads but in the end at the end of the day these students won out and everything was changed ever since then. Protests are normal so what? What do you mean the students won out? What are you saying? The students were allowed to have their protests against issues that were taking place where the campus was closing down certain vendors and they had this guy sitting behind a table saying I don't like breasts change my mind kind of stuff Crowder. I don't like breast checks, you know? This is anti-American this is un-American this is wrong! I don't care what your protesting exactly yeah I don't like boobs whatever it is the government should have no business

1:53:35 No, they don't. But this guy is saying it! It's what we both agree to which is they're trying to quash this genocide Joe meme because it's gonna hurt the Democrat Party Tears will come tears will come blood will there'll be blood on the moon as my mom would say This is not going to end well if they think they're gonna send goons into college campuses Although I may agree with, you know...I mean i'd love for lots of these protests to not happen but that's not America. You can protest whatever you want. You could go with your pussy hats, you can put your kiffeyes on, you can do whatever you want! But the government is so freaked out now that you're not doing it right. Hello? Protest Elon Musk

1:54:26 Protest Trump, don't protest genocide. Joe no this is not good we're gonna come and beat you up I anticipate many more which is why a lot of folks are telling us oh you need to act on that but they're also saying in the same breath were going to cut funding for the office for civil rights We need to make sure we have folks at the department that can investigate this right away. Our kids' safety cannot be compromised on campus." So, so the referrals will go to the Civil Rights Division? At the U.S. Attorney's... At the Department of Justice? At the U.S. Department of Education. Yeah, we're a civil rights agency too! A lot people don't- I didn't know that. So we have a civil- yeah, we have the Office for Civil Rights that investigates this independently um, to make sure all those facts are taken into account Okay, now I understand. So they are also a civil rights agency You didn't know that but you do now

1:55:08 Which means your right to free learning, freedom of learning and freedom to not be threatened is under attack. I don't think that anyone who just wants to learn is being threatened. Wow! Okay so now we have Morning Joe We have another fine dude showing up, Jonathan Greenblatt the out of control CEO of the Anti-Defamation League. He's coming unhinged! I am so sick of this safe spaces conversation Don't talk to me about safe spaces when your campuses are literally unsafe

1:54:26 Protest Trump, don't protest genocide. Joe no this is not good we're gonna come and beat you up I anticipate many more which is why a lot of folks are telling us oh you need to act on that but they're also saying in the same breath were going to cut funding for the office for civil rights We need to make sure we have folks at the department that can investigate this right away. Our kids' safety cannot be compromised on campus." So, so the referrals will go to the Civil Rights Division? At the U.S. Attorney's... At the Department of Justice? At the U.S. Department of Education. Yeah, we're a civil rights agency too! A lot people don't- I didn't know that. So we have a civil- yeah, we have the Office for Civil Rights that investigates this independently um, to make sure all those facts are taken into account Okay, now I understand. So they are also a civil rights agency You didn't know that but you do now

1:55:08 Which means your right to free learning, freedom of learning and freedom to not be threatened is under attack. I don't think that anyone who just wants to learn is being threatened. Wow! Okay so now we have Morning Joe We have another fine dude showing up, Jonathan Greenblatt the out of control CEO of the Anti-Defamation League. He's coming unhinged! I am so sick of this safe spaces conversation Don't talk to me about safe spaces when your campuses are literally unsafe

1:55:48 These college administrators and you know, it's the oppression Olympics Joe. It's the oppression Olympics where you either play Oppressor or oppressed and in this victimology Madness Jews are somehow put at the bottom This is really phenomenal what we're witnessing here the whole The whole base political base Has been told For years and years and years you are being oppressed. You're a victim, you're black, you're gay, your lesbian, you're trans evil right-wingers white people they hate you this is wrong... And now on MSNBC we all have to say yeah you know the safe space does that bullcrap it's falling apart! It's like a natural occurrence

1:56:43 Like a fire putting itself out. It's crazy, this is so beautiful to watch. Madness! Jews are somehow put at the bottom but here's the thing Joe I am so tired of the cowardice i am so tired of the weakness so university presence I am looking right at you if you violate title six and you make your students unsafe, ADL is coming for you. Oh! Let me tell ya I'm more afraid of ADL than I am of the government. The Department Of Education Yes hold on what is Title VI exactly? Do you know what title six is? I think it's an equal... civil rights, equal access kind of thing. Okay overview title 642 U.S., you asked for US code was enacted as part of the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 it prohibits discrimination on the basis of race color and national origin in programs and activities receiving federal finance financial assistance

1:57:40 As President Kennedy said in 1963, simple justice requires that public funds to which all taxpayers of all races colors and national origins contribute not be spent in any fashion which encourages entrenches subsidize or results in racial discrimination. So they're using title six I guess to take away funds from these universities? Do these universities actually get funds from the government Well, you know how it goes. Research funds sometimes... There's a lot of research money that goes into the big schools. K-12 gets nothing but they get it. Medical, military... Military funds, sure

1:58:32 I it would be a little more fun if they went to bust heads honestly, but okay I still like to know what the seven schools were. Oh, I guess fast prayer and where's the seven schools? We'll find out title six and you make your students unsafe ADL is coming for you If you create environments where Jewish students are hostile, are being harassed and targeted. I got news for you! You may have a moral weakness but you also have a fiduciary responsibility to protect your institutions and look whether you're going to lose tens of millions of donor dollars and you will, or you lose hundreds of millions in federal funding because you lose Title VI and you will. We are coming for you because I'm tired of waiting Joe! I'm tired of waiting for them to protect my Jewish kids in school so I am going to protect them with the full force of the law

1:59:26 Seven schools are under investigation as of November 16th. Lafayette College, Cornell University, Columbia University, Wellesley College, University of Pennsylvania the Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art and Kansas's Mays Unified School District Five of the complaints allege anti-semitic harassment And two allege anti Muslim harassment Well that just I mean where are these victims? The whole thing is beautiful to watch. It's ginned up! Yeah, it's ginned up...it's beautiful to watch like stop it we can't have these protests anymore please please Elon please Trump anything. They gotta stop these protests and so anyway they don't need more coverage by the mainstream media with signage that says genocide Joe they've been keeping that pretty much to a minimum but you know those signs are everywhere. Is great

2:00:27 That's hilarious. There was a chant, I don't think I clipped it because you couldn't hear it well enough but the chant was... It had Genocide Joe in there but these chants are just spells these children are under spells they're told hey hey ho ho genocide joe got to go it's just spells witchcraft and they've fallen for this fantastic Yeah, it's good. It's cool. What do you expect? Let's go to Zelensky for a moment. Something beautiful happened because I guess the foreign secretary in the United Kingdom of Richie Sunak's government... he's not elected by the way, he was just catapulted in after they got rid of the woman and so

2:01:24 The female... No. Yeah, yeah He got catapulted in after he got rid of Boris Johnson No! They had that woman in for three weeks Oh pfff Don't you remember? Yeah there's an interim And then and his interim too And then his foreign secretary said Eh we can have all these multiculturalism doesn't work get him out here send them to... To Rwanda Send them to Rwanda Well thats no good Bring back Cameron Yeah, that guy. So Cameron if I recall is the guy who said we're not worried about this Brexit we'll just do a vote let's do an election will do a vote and then of course Brexit took place so he's got the right pull up he's a real winner

2:02:14 So now he's been sent over to Ukraine to go talk to Zelensky. Very dangerous journey as you can understand. It is David Cameron first working trip abroad as the UK foreign secretary The destination, Kiev, to meet with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky and emphasize London support for Ukraine We will continue to give him moral support, diplomatic support, economic support but above all military support but you need not just this year and next year, but for as long it takes. The former UK Prime Minister made a point of stating that he plans to get the communications right with all Ukraine's friends and allies to ensure that the attention is directed to Ukraine Other topics included weapon and arms production and the security situation in the Black Sea Zelensky expressed his gratitude for Cameron's visit at a time when global attention has shifted to Israel's war on Gaza So you know the wall there

2:03:07 not focus on the situation or on our battlefield in Ukraine. We are thankful that UK always supported Ukraine It's been over 600 days since Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the war is continuing with no end in sight. Both Ukrainian and Russian authorities have kept tight-lipped on the number of soldiers killed since February 2022, but some reports put them at close to 70 thousand and 120 thousand respectively So far the UK has committed over four billion pounds in military assistance to Ukraine Committed! Committed! Not paid, commited

2:03:48 I have a bunch of Ukraine clips. Yeah, can i do my quick little uh Zelensky thing just to alert you to this? To be on the lookout and these are good memes these are video memes of Zelensky and so it's the same thing it's like a guy like a panhandler leaning through the car window or a guy in front of a whole bunch of slot machines and they stick Zelensky's head on it with this little quote from him. It will be win-win, if you can't give us some financial support okay please give us credit and we will give you back money. So I have been begging at the slot machine Give us a credit! Just give us a credit

2:04:36 It's finally a good meme. Yeah, it's finally a good meme I think some slot machine makers should seriously consider that when we have them say win-win and have heads on the reels. Yeah exactly. Zelensky heads Give us a credit man The super jackpot Come on man give me an eight ball! Give me the credits just give me credit i'll pay you later i promise i pay you back All right what you got in Ukraine? These are the updates and these are from yesterday. So they're pretty recent let's go with you Chris I don't know it's not supposed to be IRC, but it says IRC PBS in a Washington Post op-ed today President Biden urged support for Ukraine He's asked Congress with tens of billions of dollars to support the nation on its war with Russia Most of that would be military aid But it also includes money to address the humanitarian situation which as Ali Rogin tells us gets worse by the day

2:05:28 As Russia increases its attacks on critical infrastructure in Ukraine, some 18 million Ukrainians about 40% of the population are in need of humanitarian aid. Humanitarian organizations on the ground are working in a hostile environment trying to help civilians caught in the crossfire who are searching for safe haven and those groups are concerned that support for their mission in the international community is flagging Just out of interest I know you didn't mean it, but what do you think you were trying to do when labeling this clip IRC? Just curious with the... Oh yeah. No, I think this leads up to my international relief committee. Ah okay got it got it The International Relief Committee which is a rescue international rescue This is the money guys! It's quite the operation they bring on somebody as spokesperson But I went and did one of that-I did a curry dive

2:06:26 And so I ended up looking at it, as you guys said. It's a huge operation 11000 people working in 40 countries. It goes back to 19. This is what the irony of this is like six years or something such and just goes back to nineteen thirty one was Germany by two left wing factions the Communist Party and the Socialist Workers Party with aide victims of state oppression slowly evolved to us council on foreign relations takeover Wow. This is a complete front for the Council on Foreign Relations, you look at anybody on here. Co-chair of the Board of Directors Timothy Geithner. Our one time...

2:07:09 Treasury secretary. Yeah, Council on Foreign Relations. The board of directors Lawrence Fink. Blackrock! Council on Foreign Relations Janet Napolitano. Council on Foreign Relations Executive Vice President of Pfizer Sally Sussman. Council on Foreign Relations Board of Advisors Michael Blumenthal, CFR. Mary Boyce, CFR Tom Brokaw who is in the Council on Foreign Relations Ali Jetty, Council on Foreign Relations in McKinsey Henry Kissinger, Council on Foreign Relations Then I found two people that aren't on the Council on Foreign Relations Scott Pelley who's on this thing He's CBS and Liv Ullman

2:08:01 I had to go and figure out what, Liv Ullman is an 83 year old Norwegian actress. Why is she on this operation? Why has she got anything to do with this operation? Does she have money? No. See if you can guess! Is she married to someone special? She's a old woman She used to date Henry Kissinger. Ah, there it is! And Kissinger must be the greatest guy to know because if you don't turn on him he always pays ya back Now the interesting one guy not on the Council on Foreign Relations is David Miliband, who's the president and CEO. You remember him? Yeah isn't he former... The head of the opposition in UK. He was a UK government. Yes yes weak weak guys weak! He's not in on the CFR but he's a member of the Trilateral Commission There you go another fan favorite So this whole operation is really sketchy and I went out of my way to just- Sketchy?!

2:09:02 Just look up some random person. So I looked up Tracy Wolstencroft just randomly, who's on the board of advisors and she's a former president CEO National Geographic Council on Foreign Relations. Okay it's unbelievable. So this is a front operation for globalists. Yeah New World Order Yeah, that's the way PBS brings on a spokesperson quite effortlessly. But let's go back to Ukraine IRC 2. Zoe Daniels is the senior director for the Ukraine crisis at The International Rescue Committee, a humanitarian organization. Zoe thank you so much for joining us can you first take us through what are the most pressing humanitarian needs right now in Ukraine? Money!

2:09:53 So really, as you said heavy fighting carries on particularly in the southeast of the country. It's damaging homes hospital schools other civilian infrastructure and really driving humanitarian needs I mean an area of Ukraine approximately the size of Florida is now riddled with landmines which nearly two years into a full-scale war and after 10 years of conflict in eastern Ukraine people Ability to cope is severely weakened. We've got alarming statistics about the massive mental health impacts of the war, including the rise of intimate partner violence at home." Oh! Well that's an interesting angle... Intimate partner violence? So guys are beating their wives or vice versa depending on how big the Ukrainian woman is The only thing she did wrong she should have said there was an uptick She should have said rise Uptick would have been more accurate Uptick Wow

2:10:48 So she goes on and on, and there's a bunch of stuff in here that is kind of discrepant because I thought they rousted all the children out of the Ukrainian war areas completely. And there are lot of them in Poland some Russian Russians took a bunch from their own out of there but according to her They are being traumatized. Let's go to clip 3. 4.1 million children inside Ukraine need humanitarian aid It has become a daily reality for this generation of violence, trauma, destruction and displacement Children are being killed and wounded they're deeply traumatized by violence which I'm sorry excuse me lady

2:11:24 Right now the children death script is Gaza and Israel. You can't hijack the script now for some Ukrainian kids Do you have incubators? Does she have incubators John does he have incubators otherwise it's just it's gonna fall flat No, I don't think no incubators are out of the pictures. I agree that they're free means you got preemies know It's not good enough nugget The script is weak it's weak like what happens when your giant organization That is kind of run by their CFR and it's like You know, you don't have the top-notch writers there put the roll this through chat GPT or something sex it up a bit which leaves really long lasting scars its Really affected their future

2:12:09 There's been prolonged disruption both by the war and then before that there was the preceding COVID-19 pandemic. And so this is four years of educational challenges for students. Yeah, I think we have that here in America too Zoey but okay pretty much yeah you can play it out uh four Are you concerned that international attention is turning away from Ukraine? There's always competing priorities in the world and the humanitarian response plan for Ukraine is only funded at 46 percent even though, for example, the United States has outstandingly contributed 2.6 billion in life-saving humanitarian aid

2:12:53 which really helped Ukrainians through the constant shelling and last year's harsh winter. The needs are currently estimated at 3.95 billion USD, which you know currently humanitarian funding to Ukraine is half of what it was in 2022. There is political will in the country and among key allies that really remains high but funding shortages really hamper humanitarians ability to assist more people. Zoe Daniels with the International Rescue Committee, thank you so much for your time! Where are these people for Haiti or the Uyghurs? Yeah well yeah where's the Haiti guys? And we still have it... Where is a call for a ceasefire in Ukraine thing when they just want more money how about asking for a cease fire no you know peace it's not profitable

2:13:44 This is the major problem. But can we make peace profitable again? Make peace profitable again! There you go, I think that should be kind of a thing to... Bumper sticker? No put it on his sign and march around with it Elon make peace profitable this is a good idea I shall make a sign and walk around with it in Fredericksburg Yeah It fit right in. With the tourists, oh man it's filling up as we got Christmas is coming you know if you want a traditional Christmas you come to Fredericksburg the lights are up I'm sure it's dynamite take some pictures put them will put into newsletter yes it's getting beautiful there really is do we just need some snow which supposedly this is at Thanksgiving were supposed to get snow here and in the hill country

2:14:36 So I'm waiting for the snowpocalypse part two. Do you have a snow plow? You got an attachment for your truck? No, truck! Now i've got bird dog across the way if really... If I'm really in trouble I just walk over to Bird Dog's place. Bird Dogs get everything. You got snowshoes? I do have snowshoes Those big giant ones? no I have snow boots Oh boots with it you got their little spikes on there so don't fall on your ass You don't seem prepared if you ask me. I got a generator, that's all i care about! I got a generator and a freezer full of beef no worries all good there was a native ad situation taking place in the UK which one of our producers caught and it was a doozy um which is...and i think this may be a strategy there's a lot of talk now when the lawyers are warming up

2:15:36 to sue Pfizer and possibly, well no, Pfizer specifically because of their manufacture of the mRNA vaccines which were manufactured differently from the emergency use authorization process. They're suing it specifically because they have super deep pockets as opposed to Moderna or you could put them out of business who cares? Yeah it's a good one to go after And we also, you know so Pfizer is arguably in trouble for this and they need to refocus. The UK is a good place to start, the different laws works a little differently and the media it's good over there

2:16:21 So this is a... Right, because they're not getting it. And let's make- Let's point it out once again because they are not getting drug big pharma money for advertising Well so they slipped this one in and the way they did it This is a long game They have a couple They both happen to be actors These are actual actors and this is the guy His wife actress was harmed by the AstraZeneca vaccine. Okay, that's a blood clot. Yes with that one clot issue this is well known you know AstraZeneca was halted so now they're going after AstraZeneca and this is a two-parter but very interesting as a setup and And really a grand slam so this is a native ad for who I'm sorry while you listen just okay? I'm going to surprise you

2:17:17 The big pharma vaccine maker is being sued for tens of millions of pounds in a test case or mass tort action, depending on your continent. Brought by the British family of one person allegedly killed by the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine and another who was brain injured allegedly as a result of the same vaccine 80 others are co-joined in the case including Australian born West End actor Mel Stewart The 42-year old suffered a devastating brain bleed and has a titanium plate to protect her skull from emergency surgery after receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine in southwest London in April 2021. I'm joined now by her husband Ben Lewis, Ben is also an actor but has given up his career to be by his wife's side in what must be the greatest challenge of their lives

2:18:10 Yeah, Mel had a significant stroke caused by two clots in her brain. Mel had a bleed on the right hand side of her brain, the left-hand side of the brains. Excuse me and that's resulted in having speech difficulties She suffers from what are called what is known as aphasia and apraxia of speech which is basically a breakdown in the communication between the brain and your your speech Mel also has significant right-sided deficits as is common with lots of strokes. Mel has limited use of her right leg, she can walk with the assistance of an orthotic device and her right arm has very little functional movement at all

2:18:58 So that's the setup and you heard it, so a proper case. It got a lot of people even said hey this is something could work in America depending on your continent we call that a mass tort case now to complete the script you've always gotta say but you know what? We're not anti-vaxxers! We are pro vaccination Mel and I both are but we completely respect everyone's right to choose That is not the issue at play here. Tens of thousands of particularly older people were dying in care homes throughout the UK when we came to get our vaccines, The way it was in the UK is that you did not have a choice as to which one you were given

2:19:37 It was dictated by age. Mel was six months over 40 at the time, so she offered the AstraZeneca vaccine which was... We could have got it now could have got an alternative vaccine if she'd been under 40 years old but she wasn't given a choice and we just feel like yes the vaccines saved and helped lots of people but we feel like it is incumbent on the government to take care who fell through the cracks and whose lives have been devastated for, as you said Chris, for doing the right thing. Have you kept up to date with COVID-19 vaccination boosters? We have we have Chris my wife received Pfizer vaccine people may be gobsmacked but that's not true

2:20:26 She, as I say we've always had to put our faith in the experts and by the time we got the Pfizer vaccine it's very clear that that's a highly effective vaccine. None of the risks that the AstraZeneca had so she got that one in hospital which was necessary because the hospitals were full of COVID when she was in there and we're actually going for a booster next week and I'd encourage everyone to do And the Oscar goes to... Okay, you get I had to do this because i'm sitting there with the clip of the day already. But I'm going to give you Clip of the Day for that. Thank you very much. I forget which producer sent that to me, but of course honors go to him. Well that producer should get Clip of the day. You should send it to him when you get in the mail tomorrow. When it shows up... It's a very small trophy for people who don't know we have a bunch of them lined up around the house uh when you get that ship it to him

2:21:24 Will do. And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put The C in IRC and CFR ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend down there on the one and only Mr John Singh! Good morning to you sir Adam Currie and the mercy of the sea, bazoon rafting near yourselves in the water and the dames and knights out there In the morning to our trolls in the troll room we are at 2 hours 23 minutes still hanging out with us... ...6262027 On this Sunday How much? 2,027. That's 400 under. We're at the holiday season so people aren't home I think you need to do the new numbers we're doing these donation segments after the two-hour mark and then i'm sure we lost four hundred along the way probably with the Ukraine stuff once we hit Ukraine people are like that's no good People don't want to hear about it Well I went to a meetup yesterday Oh yeah how did the meetup go The meet up was phenomenal

2:22:29 I think Sir Scott sent in a meetup report which will play in a moment. I just wanted to say we had a great time, Tina and I went with other podcasters from Living Up In A Down World Jimmy and Annette so it was kind of a combo but it was double the amount typically at Doc's Backyard about 50-60 people despite the rain little bit of drizzle here and there Doc's backyard always takes good care of the group. Baron Scott and Christine, they were there. They organized it as usual with everyone had a lanyard with their name which you know... Lanyard? A lanyard with a little badge yep and if you try to leave with your lanyards he'll confiscate them He will tackle you! Hey hey hey give that back! We don't have so many lanyards do we think we're made out of money?! That's exactly right yeah exactly right

2:23:20 heads on sticks people there and of course Baron Gordon Walton. He drove me to the very first meetup ever in Austin, Farmer Chris stopped by who I've known since I lived in downtown even before I lived in downtown Austin he does the eggs at the farmers market and he has now 5,000 chickens now quite a lot of chickens And then new producers who escaped California and moved to the Austin area, and he's a genetic researcher. What was the actual title? A Genetic Grease? No, Genetic Researcher but it was like informatic to something or other

2:24:04 And so I immediately went, oh! So you know about COVID vaccines? He said yep. Don't take them. He said stay away says there's real good stuff coming for cancer in particular with genetics the stuff that can be done but none of it is ready for prime time So that was his contribution. Lots of people remembered, some new people it was a great meetup and I do have several donations which i will read after we go through well there's two we got a PhD in executive producer so I'll do those and then some other ones I want to read to thank everybody It was quite a nice meetup and good to see everybody

2:24:52 The trolls, that's where I was. So unfortunately we're losing our trolls it is a holiday weekend or holiday week. Holiday week? Holiday week yes so will be here on Thanksgiving on Thursday of course! We'll be doing our show and... A few people appreciate it. I'll be here until 5pm so I'll be late for Thanksgiving dinner as usual but that's just what it is these days. What time do you eat Thanksgiving dinner? Well, we're having dinner at the international arms dealers house. House of pancakes! The International Arms Dealers House

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2:27:22 And one thing that we enjoy a lot is what our artists do for us through Value For Value. They're listening live as we are doing the show and they're coming up with ideas, Fresh album art works. People love seeing it, they get a kick out of the art and it helps them understand what's going to be in the show It's often just humorous Sometimes its all of the above And we want to thank the artist who brought us the album art for episode 1608 titled Woke Up Dead Joe, and that's Foe Diddley Sir Shug. And this was pretty much a go from the start for both of us This was the multiple dreidels we could choose between if you spun the dreidel You get Palestinian flag an Israeli flag you get a Ukraine flag a trans flag a Black Lives Matter flag just beautiful The dreidels of Trans Maoism

2:28:23 Would he actually have a title for them? Did he titled this something usually the artist put a title on it Yeah, you call it spun up game Well and oh yeah. There's also a spun-up Angle to it It was good is really good fo diddley we like that a lot and I'm trying to get through the art generator here We go someone gets slow on slow on show days. It's just been slow recently. I don't know what's what's wrong I hope so we have a couple of things that we had like face screen future by Gibstein which is so AI it was like forget it. You're not gonna get it no way I'd like Ness works all spun up he had a top that was all spun Yeah, you had to stop which is also AI of some sort liked it though It was good and it was nice but it wasn't as use the dreidels

2:29:11 The dreidels we both I think we liked the Osama bin Laden writing from Scaramanga right doing a just write. Oh, just writing tits trying boobs drawing boobs on his on the paper. We like the polar bear, actually Nick the rat came in with rare because he's like still leading I think all time. Oh we did the polar bear where that's getting... With the bomb just over coming down hitting him which is... It wasn't Nick's best work No but it was funny and then there was the cows flying cows by pickle surprise I thought that was good yeah

2:29:52 Yeah, we had it. Also I like the letter from Correct a Record Dear America you suck That was Osama bin Laden dear American You suck and I hate all of you more than anything love Osama PS jihad me at hijab me at hello It's that gag what it was a little I mean It was good. There was a lot of stuff we could have picked it was good art and you can see some of this in those same modern podcast apps Dreb Scott puts it as the album arts so if your driving along just put your phone up on your dashboard or connect to your car play or Android auto and keep your eye on the road! You'll see these things flipping by as you're driving, you get distracted but you like

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2:32:01 He bought a car. Yet the possibility of earning a PhD on a prime-numbered show forced my recouping savings to dwindle once more in your favor. Priorities and principles matter! So thank you for what you do, and keep interjecting logic in these screwed up times I would like to be knighted Sir Prime Doctor Of Illuminated Thinking And he says PS could you recommend a good audio capture program? I already sent him a note For collecting sound bites from both video and audio To send your way What did you may I ask what you recommend to him? Audacity because it's free and it works. It's pretty good that I would say that's pretty good, yes. Well thank you very much we appreciate that brother You got your PhD coming up so good And make sure they go to no gender rings dot com and fill out the form for them Of course I will remind him of that in a moment Anthony trust

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2:35:31 P.S., Adam, dinner with you and Tina a few years ago was great! Hope to do it again sometime if you ever considered a Boston Province town Cape Cod trip the invitation to visit is still stands John we're out in Napa for a few days as part of the birthday celebration this weekend thanks for all the wine tips over the years oh nice You're welcome Yes Sir Ronald Lafferty in San Jose California 1000 ITM or ITA, John and Adam. Here's my support for the best podcast in the universe." End of note! Thank you very much Ronald. Oh man we love that here's a thousand dollars we got yesterday from The Meetup In The Morning shout out to Dame Alley Rat belated happy birthday September 18th to Sir Osceola they're the millennial lesbians

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2:37:20 Actually sent a long note in the morning and thank you for your courage. Please accept this three three four dot three Three of my calculations are correct This brings me up to nine nine nine dot nine nine since January if you would be so kind To throw in a penny that would put me at night status Please knight me sir Andy of the ax holes pronounced Axe holes is the penny protector of the iron or iron liver I would like some Arby's and Chuck E cheese at the round table hold the redneck brawl There's just something about cheap pizza in arcade games that makes people want to hurt someone lastly

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2:39:50 Your efforts to help people understand what a scam global warming is really makes a difference. Really? Yeah! On our next road trip... Where's our carbon credits?! On our next road trip we both listened into an episode after awhile my wife asked me Is the old guy drunk? To which I replied, no. But the other guy might be stoned! Good times! Anyway we've been loyal listeners ever since and now that we're retired We never miss an episode. I have almost finished two years of our modest sustaining donation but this is our first show donation so please de-douche us both You've been de-douched Love that love that

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2:45:19 I can never miss a show and i usually listen twice to make sure i absorb all your wisdom. Thank you Farmer Chris, farmer chris is lovely guy and we got a boob donation from Dame Shanerkey just in the morning thank you for everything you do resist me much and did i miss anything? And oh yes thank you NoBere for the finest crullers from the region's producers. All right, John take us through the 50s we got cool meetup reports as well Yeah, that's like French for donuts. So here is the very short today we really got everyone's gone on vacation or whatever we were even though we're working it would be working on Thanksgiving there was very little evidence that anyone's listening no one loves us because for example we start off with right away Kevin McLaughlin goes right to the top in Concord North Carolina he is

2:46:17 Archduke Aluna, lover of America and boobs. And he comes in with 8008 and he does have a public service announcement. Happy wife, happy life play with the snuggle puppies daily to Kevin O'Brien from Chicago 6006 was small boobs which leads us right back to Kevin McLaughlin and conquer North Carolina six oh six Public service announcement number two reduce holiday stress ladies. Tell us to kiss your melons, and we will and we will Okay It reduces stress who uses stress for everybody who knew? Except the kids if they happen to see it

2:47:02 Banstra, Nashville Tennessee $59.93 Les Tarkowski in Kingman Arizona $57 Dean Roker $51.10 Max Windham in the Woodlands Texas $51 he's gonna be a knight he'd like to be known as Sir Max of the Research Forest I could put My smoking hot girlfriend Stacy on the birthday list for 1127. I believe she's on there, I could be wrong. Yes she is indeed Donald Tushoff in Juistin Idaho This is a Rogan donation calling out a douchebag who wants to be anonymous his name rhymes with bark Otter smirkin Okay all right Sir Pauly Bravo and Greeley Colorado

2:47:54 5280. John Pools in Hernando Beach, Florida 50. Oh these are all fifties we're already there! We got a total of 20 donations before we get the fifties Wow Joan Polson Hernando beach Tatiana Prince in Hollywood Florida Nathan Cochran and Franklin Tennessee Peter Odoh in Ridge New York Scott Lavender Sir Scott Montgomery Texas Gadget Freak 10 In Western Springs, Illinois. Luke Olson in Alexandria, Virginia. Corey Bennett in Denver Colorado. Alexander Verdejo in Gig Harbor Washington. Joe Oswald in Lithia Florida. Chris Cowan Austin Texas. Fletcher Scaife

2:48:42 Or Scafie, perhaps in Wilston North Dakota. Sir Andrew Gusek in Greensboro North Carolina. Linda J. Sealy and Arlington Texas Rita Harrington in Sparks Nevada Allen Bean sir Baron Allen being in Beaverton Oregon Leanne Shipley in Covington Washington sir Spud the Mighty in Marietta Georgia and last on our short list is very short lists a lot of 50s but that's about it Sir Jerry Wingenroth in Saugus, California. I want to thank these people the ones who actually showed up to help us here on show 1609 for supporting us through this effort

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2:50:15 Shut up, slave! It's a birthday party, I'm no champion. A little expanded list as we got a few late ones there from the meetup belated birthday to Rachel on the 5th of September and Sir Osceola on September 18th from the soon-to-be Sir Mustang Racer Tom Mikakis wishes his amazing husband Jake or Jacob Happy birthday! He turned 40 yesterday. Mike Salazzo turns 24 today, and Max Windham wishes his smoking hot girlfriend Stacey a happy birthday in advance of November 27th. We say happy birthday for everybody here at the best podcast in the universe! And now I would like to welcome on the podium Anonymous Anthony Trusnik

2:51:12 Jake and Sir Ronald Lafferty, you are our latest No Agenda PhD graduates. Congratulations! Welcome to you the new MD-PhDs of the Society of Learned Persons The path to this high academic honor has been a long if not costly one for some of you Some of the price have been paid for your hard earned wisdom in other ways but today is not an end, it is only a beginning From this point forward, go forth and spread the no agenda word far and wide because we will not be silenced. We will not be deterred. The truth is out there PhDs now go out there and find it! Who'd you put up to? There's five... What did I miss? Well, you missed Tom McCuckus And the person that YOU got the thousand from at the meetup Well i only have what i had on my list

2:52:10 Uh, okay. Tom... Wait who did I miss? I missed McCuckus? Yeah you missed McCuckus. But McCuckus didn't come through on the email! Oh well that's no good. Hold on a second. McCuckus. Tom McCuckus. Alright. I think she probably didn't put him on because he didn't claim it Well that would be the issue. Well... It says right here why he awarded an honorary doctorate and this is for Jake This is Jake or Jacob Why-I did Jake or Jacob Well, you did. Yeah I did Jake or Jacob for sure Did you do Anthony? You didn't do the one that you received Right...I didn't do...did I not do Cliff Elliott Oh man what am i doing here Sir Ronald Lafferty Anonymous Truesmeet Ginnich Jake or Jacob Jacob and Lafferty And Sir Mustang Race Did I not do him? No Do I need to do

2:53:09 Um, Macaucus? No it went to a Jaker Jacob. Oh! Okay I see so well let me do it again then. Anonymous! We'll edit this no one will know the difference Anthony Trusnik, Jaker Jacobs Sir Ronald Lafferty and sir-to be Mustang Racer there you go welcome you PhDs of no agenda the truth is out there go out there and find it Hey, you get what you pay for. Hey! You got yourself a PhD Nobody can- nobody complain about that. Nobody can complain Alright then okay this I think I have right at least I hope I do almost second here we go We got no dames today but we do have um...we do have knights Now is Tom McCuckus on this list?

2:54:07 Jake or Jacob? Jake or Jacob. So would it be should be but it'll be sir, Jake or Jacob because we don't have a name for him Well that's what we decided is sir. Jake or Jacob Okay well that was for the switcheroo. That's Sir Jake now Sir Jake is on here We got it on here everything's good Everything the world has settled were good give me a big sword cuz I need to chop myself up and get sick It's just on the ground. Oh geez fell over okay there you go It's a winner All right, Anonymous Andrew Helenius Jake or Jacob Doug Max Windham and Cliff Elliot all of you now are Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable And I'm very proud and prepared to pronounce the Kate V as Sir Prime Doctor of Illuminated Thinking

2:54:52 Sir Andy of the Axe-holes, Sir Jake, Sir Face Noise, defender of the 33 and 1 3rd. Sir Max of The Research Forest and Sir Mustang Racer for you we've got Hookers & Blow, Xer Rent Boys in Chardonnay, Arby's and Chuck E Cheese! We got Bong Hits & Bourbon, Sparkling Cider & Esports, Ginger Ale & Gerbils Breast Milk & Pavelman of course have got that mutton in mead. You know we always have that ready for you! It's good to have y'all here, thank you. You can munch on the mutton enjoy the mead while you check out noagendarings.com That is also for your PhDs. You can order them there give us your name We suggest use a real name because it makes it look that much more authentic...it IS authentic But people will just think oh wow that's really yours isn't? That's pretty cool

2:55:36 For your rings, you need to give us your ring size and with that will come the wax to seal your important correspondence along with a certificate of authenticity. And thank you all for supporting The No Agenda Show and for becoming Knights of the NO AGENDA Roundtable! Yesterday reminded me once again how important no agenda meetups are. I mean, it is so beautiful to have the counterpart or the companion to the podcast is really going to a meetup just seeing everybody all the different faces different kinds of people all walks of life everybody has a fun story everybody hangs out with each other we talk about stuff there's never any

2:56:25 It's always good. It's just it's like a love fest man, it's like back to the 60s I'm loving! It's so beautiful we don't have a lot in fact We have no meetups happening between now and our next show on Sunday because Thursday means Thursday Thanksgiving is just nothing happening as far as I can tell. Oh wait a minute, we do have... No that's right! Friday we have Fort Worth Texas that's on November 25th but we had a lot of meetups that we talked about in the last show so we have a tonne of Meetup reports starting off with the Austin extravaganza In the morning this is Alex Serene The NICU Dad With my wife and our human resource Emerson In the morning this is Emerson And you've got Carmel ITM Farmer Chris Hi This is Rose

2:57:11 I'm here with the No Agenda meetup. It is great being out. In the morning, this is Salty Crayon. Hi Tim! Baron Dr. Cox in the morning This is Josh. Baron Gordon Walton here in the morning Hey all the Cali's San Francisco has cleaned up time to go home Hey this is Doug Longenecker What's up with the Amish people? They're not getting facts! In the morning to you Liz coming from Austin Texas This is Sir Rob Hey there it's Amber Simpson Morning Hey this is Sir Matt Wells out of the Austin Petty Cabbies down here at the Austin Local 512 In the morning this is one house of the millennial lesbian couple. This is Rachel, OC decided to dish me today to promote Rebus Realty. For all your real estate needs in Austin this is your local no agenda real estate brokerage Rebus Realty. Resist we much and we will about that be committed

2:57:58 It's Haley Vogel. In the morning, this is Karen so nice to see you guys again in the morning Kristen great to be here This is Malik I'm giving out spike vaxes and tumor nugs in the morning everybody This is sir Brian with an eye coming to you from Austin Texas Rachel Cook keep the lid down. This is John Dork Will right in the sky Doug from San Antonio pick a side in the morning it's Michael hey this is Rob Cardium your pro bono lawyer Hi, this is Dame Chan Arki reminding you that taxation is theft but donation is love. I'm Michelle, this is Chris. In the morning! ITM, Senator Tonin. In the morning, that's Stephen B., creator of Curiel Caster and LNB here in Austin Texas at 512 meetup. In the morning, this is Tim representing the Austin and Juneau family It's Adam and Tina happy to be here This is Barron Scott and my keeper Christine. In the morning y'all. In the morning, I hope everyone enjoys the name badges because there was a sweatshop at our house this morning. I can't believe you're doing this to me Scott

2:58:57 I love Baron Scott, that guy just trips me out. And by the way it was nice to meet our pro bono lawyer Rob who does all the you know he's tracking that Missouri v Biden and we used to be Jagged so he knows about that and he said if your ever in jail drop a dime on me he'll pop us out so thats good to know John just in case always good to have a guy like that on your speed dial this is where you say yes And we had a meetup in Arlington, Virginia. Hey John Adam hey this is Sir William of West Pensylvania at the Arlington Meet-Up We're doing it live and stop the hammering! This is Sir Chris can you say moulin noir? I'm from Annapolis and then warm thoughts we love you guys ITM this is Erin from Alexandria ITM sir Robert from the Smoky Mountains and Smokey Mountain Brass Hi this is Sir Bob

2:59:50 of the Chesapeake Bay Connectionist Protection. I think Sir William is a spook! This is Kyle There's French food on the menu, but all the slaves want some mac and cheese. Hi this is Roger I've been shamelessly self-promoting Man vs Street YouTube channel like and subscribe also DC girl couldn't be here she sick in his sorry Hey sir Richie rich here glad to be here in DC Thank You sir William in the mornings Darren guests here glad to be here interesting folks good conversation Wes a guest also happy to be here Sounds like they're hitting some people in the mouth there in Arlington. We got a written report from New Haven the nicotine meetup in Connecticut from Justin Cody Adam and John all the producers out there from the New Haven nicotine meet up at Connecticut about six joining on The Funim for the first time organizing one I thought it went very well smokes drinks and not an enlarged amygdala insight very good, and North Georgia had to meet up

3:00:48 In the morning, Adam and John. Sir Bob here with the North Georgia Meetup Report We had a great turnout and great time as always You know, we always learn something new with these meetups. So everybody in North Georgia if you've never been to one come the next one December 21st If you've been there before and haven't been there for a while Come on out and join us again We'd like to see you again this month. We learned that Darren O'Neill gave my crotch his night name of dr Sir Mike Roch Let's see what the rest of slaves had to say as always Thank you for your courage And remember connection is protection dude named Ben here go to a meet up Surrey here from the real North Georgia. Remember, connection is protection! This is at Radar Rider my first meetup and community is connection go to a meetup soon

3:01:36 Hi, this is Lisa. My first meetup with no agenda and very happy love the people can't wait till the next one In the morning, this is Carrie hanging out with all the fine Georgia folks Hello everyone! This is Naira And where are all my Russians at? Is anyone listening? Over Hey, N.A., Dr. Sir, Mike Roch! If I'm gonna collect another diploma... ...I'm gonna need a transcript. Make it sealed. Send it to my employer

3:02:17 Oh, you accept PayPal for pay? Adios. A production note if you're going to do a meetup report either tighten it up or don't put music under it because it makes editing impossible for me and the final meet-up report was from Nashville kind of a sad one This is Steve the Baron of BNA. I'm at the pre Thanksgiving meetup in Nashville and unfortunately nobody showed up Maybe next time oh come on people hook a brother up now

3:02:55 Nashville as I said nothing up until through the next show day, but on the 25th on Friday Fort Worth Texas And then we've got Denver Colorado in the 30th Tilburg The Netherlands. We've got some Louisiana Connecticut Indianapolis remember to keep her and I'll be there December 4th. We got for Dodge Iowa on the 6th and We have another Fredericksburg, Virginia on the 9th. I mean these things are popping all the way through December 23rd in Torrance California These are the no agenda meetups if you like to show You need to get this other part of it is the companion is what you need in your life Connection is protection go out and hang out with some human beings know what Jenna meetup stock calm If you can't one find one near you

3:03:43 You wanna be where you won't be Triggered or held to blame And you wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a party... Hoooooo! Phew, Mersky. That was long. Long meet- But I love it. I love these Meetups This is so refreshing to see human beings hanging out with each other People don't do enough of that anymore Do you have any isos? Are you alive? Yeah, I did first. I went first last time i'm going first again again Oh, I wanted to go first Okay, yeah, I have four isos. Oh you let me go first because you're gonna win Okay, go first. Okay. I'm gonna go for this is i'm just playing it's too long But it's just because it's a classic and he's come back with another version of it. I'm sick of him

3:04:37 of them putting mercury in the food and water supply that turns the fricking birds gay! I mean, it's just...I just wanted to give props to The Seed Man for that one. He doesn't stop. This is this was interesting Magical Shapeshifting Jews Didn't expect that one and we have one from Megan Kelly Thank you so much for your courage There ya go That's the four Oh that was pretty good Yeah but Megan ones pretty dynamite Yes i agree So let's go well there's a one that competes with that is thanks for your start Well then lets start at the top One of my favorites is Amazing. Absolutely amazing! I wish it were a little, wouldn't cut off Yeah that's muddy. Okay let's go with Blender Colossal Blunder Who is that? Who's doing that? Play it again you can identify the voice Let me see if I can Colossal Blunder I cant... Chuck Schumer I cant Is Chuck Schumer? You cant hear it? That's Chuck Schumer?! Yes, Chuck Schumer

3:05:35 All right, well you didn't like that. So let's go with lovely. How lovely? Oops sorry... How lovely? A little muddy as well man a little muddy Thanks for the time! Thank you so much for your time. Clean is the whistle Yeah for me it's between that and thank you for your courage I mean i don't know which one I would go with Megan yeah you think yeah that's Megan's I mean it's good she stole that from us she listened to our show You know she does. I doubt it. Now, we are at... If she gets a note saying hey they mentioned you on the show and then she'll send back. At exactly what point?

3:06:17 Give me a time code. I want to time code or didn't happen, but I won't listen to it's too long It is we are three minutes and seven three hours and seven minutes into the show that means it's time for what do you want? When do you wanted now please yeah good news time Yes John did you bring us a good news clip yes, I did in here it is Hundreds of lucky students at a Southwest Metro Elementary School got a big surprise this morning. Metro Shoe Warehouse and OKC Public Schools teamed up to give them all new shoes. News 4's Austin Brissette was there. 700 shoes wheeled into Fillmore Elementary here in Oklahoma City, 600 kids all leaving with a brand new pair of kicks. Ready? Let's try this one on!

3:07:04 It was a Friday to remember for these Fillmore Elementary School Falcons kicking off the Christmas season. A little early, we think you like that so many choices all thanks to a partnership between the Oklahoma City Public School District and Metro Shoe Warehouse looks like about it about a three for you. It's Metro shoe warehouse is 12th year doing this, they help over 2000 kids per year in the Oklahoma City District. Oh it's awesome! It's a great feeling, we've loved doing it and will continue to do it for a long time." School principal Stephanie Bowman says they kept it a secret in spirit of the holiday season. So this morning we announced that everybody was getting a new pair shoes and I just love seeing excitement on their faces when they were coming into the gym this morning

3:07:46 Volunteers helped streamline the process, matching the right size and style with each student. Christmas is around the corner and this is one less thing our parents have to worry about. Austin Bursette, Oklahoma's News 4. Good news everyone! That made me happy. I feel good now. Well, thank you. Please. That's good. No, well done sir. Well done. I had the good news of the dog that stayed with his dead owner for 10 weeks but it was kind of a... It's kinda depressing good news. It was kinda creepy news yes When we return on Thursday, which will be Thanksgiving. We're happy to work for you Happy to bring your deconstruction. I probably have everybody else vacations That's all right. Second team comes in third team comes in not here migrant replacement stuff still got some China stuff more big pharma stuff

3:08:41 We'll just have to carry that over to the next show. Thank you all for being at The Meetup, thank you for supporting us, thank you for being executive associate executive producers, show number donations PhD graduates And up next on NOAA Gender Stream we have Revelations Radio News along with end of show mixes from Sir Dr. I.D.'s Laughs and Secret Agent Paul Coming to you from the heart of Texas Hill Country in FEMA Region No 6 In The Morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry! And from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain, I am John C. Dvorak We return again on Thanksgiving will be thanking you will be giving the thanks to you

3:09:17 media deconstruction. Until then, remember us at Dvorak dot org slash NA. Until then adios mofos a hooey hooey and such! They're going to do it to everybody anybody who's not on board with the message is going to get it that's just that's just the new way If you're a politician and you're not on board, then you're gonna get it. If your journalist and your not on board, then you are going to get it. The only thing that's left standing is podcasts. If you want to call us standing person I'm sitting too.

3:10:09 Food noise and chatter, sugar addicts having gastric emptying episodes Ask yourself what's the matter? More damage than the benefit once you start taking these pills It's hard to kick. Look out for an ozempic rebound after the plateau Same drug new name heck the public will never know Fasting can cure you pretty fast Who is always better than one just think about the outcast What's next in my head I hear a food voice nah that was key and peel with the noise Yeah PBS with a couple of dipshit chicks, I mean it's called insulin resistance hunger cues giving you these metabolic blues your body's a temple talking about doctor who

3:10:57 Dr. Carla is a pediatrician, an obesity physician Brain science chemicals up in the air Constant cravings in the brain Doctors don't really care Lap lap lap and off you go Off they go Can anyone hear? Remember the hole in the ozone layer? Can you tell me where it's gone? I can't recall why But i know we were all gonna die We must have done something wrong Does anyone know

3:11:59 What happened to the gasoline shortage when the pumps would all run dry? The last drop The shop would be gone by 1991 But now there's an Apple supply Does anyone here remember the Y2K bug? Everything was gonna crash Every screen would be blackened

3:12:39 But then, nothing happened. Then someone made a lot of cash It was gonna be the next Ice Age, but somehow we turned that page. We were all gonna freeze now it's up by 12 degrees and the children roar I want my hoverboard And no agenda producers if you're on antidepressants and you're gaining weight...I love you! I love you. I don't care how fat you are. I love you

3:13:15 Seriously, don't-don't... It doesn't sound like a good idea to add this to the mix. It doesn't. To change topics here I want to talk about our new intelligence agency. I love you just the size you are. Okay? That's important for me to say because I love our producers! I don't care how big they are. No wonder why your're going BIG The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N-A Thank you so much for your courage