Episode 160 · Sunday, 27 December 2009

Yemen and the Nigerian Crotch Bomber

A failed airline bombing in Detroit provides the perfect media smokescreen for the U.S. government to lift national debt limits and expand global surveillance.

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About this episode

Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the Nigerian suspect known as the crotch bomber, allegedly attempted to detonate PETN explosives aboard Northwest Airlines Flight 253 on Christmas Day. The investigation by the TSA and international intelligence agencies quickly linked the suspect to radical elements in Yemen, sparking immediate calls for the deployment of full-body scanners across global airports. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze the speed of this narrative and its connection to broader geopolitical interests in the Middle East and Africa.

Nigerian news sources report that American security forces raided six cities, including Kano and Kaduna, immediately following the Detroit incident, while the U.S. government quietly removed debt ceiling limits and bailout caps for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The TSA implemented restrictive new policies for Delta Air Lines and United Airlines, including disabling in-flight entertainment and prohibiting passenger movement during the final hour of flight. Meanwhile, testimony from the Iraq Inquiry in the UK reveals that critical 2002 briefing telegrams regarding the invasion have vanished from official archives. Additional reports cover the UN Goldstone Report on Gaza, which led to an arrest warrant for Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and the recall of ambassadors by Benjamin Netanyahu.

Broadcasting from a mobile studio in a snow-covered Yosemite National Park, Adam Curry coordinates with John C. Dvorak in Silicon Valley despite failing Wi-Fi at the Wawona Hotel. Executive Producers Daniel Rudolph and Stephen Pelsmacher lead the value-for-value support for this episode. The hosts also examine a Clorox H1N1 advertisement and the development of the weight-loss drug Lorcaserin by Arena Pharmaceuticals.


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CHAPTER 01 / 25 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 160, Gitmo Nation Media Assassination

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 160 of the No Agenda show on December 27, 2009. Curry broadcasts from a mobile setup in Yosemite National Park, while Dvorak joins from Northern Silicon Valley. The hosts introduce the "Gitmo Nation" theme and prepare to discuss the week's media events.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· no agenda· gitmo nation· episode 160

00:00 This is the voice you have learned to fear. This is the voice of terror. Again we bring you disaster, crushing, humiliating disaster. This is the voice of terror. A secret airplane factory somewhere in England. Listen. Screams of the dying can still be heard. This is the voice of terror. Are you there, people of Britain, shivering in your cellars? Listen, Operative 41. The fuse is lighted. This is the voice of terror. Englishmen, do you still await your doom in your stupid, stuffy little clubs? It will come, I promise you. Operative 23, the time is now. We strike you on the high seas as well as on the land. This is the voice of terror.

00:52 Adam Curry, John C. Devorah. It's December 27th, 2009, time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination, episode 160. This is no agenda. Preparing to be body scammed from this day forward and coming to you live from five and a half thousand feet in the snow just inside the Mariposa County line, Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation, West, West, Northwest. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's a slightly bit dreary, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! Alright, the show has begun.

CHAPTER 02 / 25 Discussion

Yosemite National Park, Wawona Hotel Mobile Studio Setup

A mobile studio is established inside a vehicle at Yosemite National Park after the Wawona Hotel lacked promised internet access. The setup utilizes a wireless microphone, a laptop powered by battery, and a Wi-Fi connection found at the Redwood Cottages parking lot. The broadcast continues despite heavy snow and limited power resources.

yosemite· wawona hotel· redwood cottages· mobile studio· apple laptop

01:29 So you're in the snow, I take it? Ah, John, this is crazy, man. The dedication we have for this program, I tell you. So you're actually in your car? Yeah, so here's the deal. So we had a beautiful drive yesterday, about five hours up to Yosemite. And there's really only one place to stay in Yosemite, and I don't mind giving away the location because I'll buy you a coffee if you show up. It's the Wawona Hotel. Which is, uh, it's quite famous actually. I think it's one of the- I thought, what about the Kiwani? The Kiwani? Maybe that's the one you were supposed to book, maybe we're in the wrong hotel. Where's the Kiwani? Isn't it the Kiwani? No, this is the Wawona. I thought the big one was the Kiwani, I thought it was Kiwani. No, the Wawona is huge! What, a church called, you got the name right? Well, they recognized our credit card. Well, I mean, what, you have a card there that says Wawona? Wawona, yeah. It's the Wawona.

02:28 Anyway, so the Wawona Hotel, it's big, you know, it's big. And of course we had... I've been to all those hotels. Yes. So we had called ahead and said, you got internet? Yeah, of course we've got internet, no problem. Oh, here we go. So... Actually believing the guy at the desk. Travelers error number 414. Yes. So we check in. It was a beautiful drive. Have you ever stopped at the Kiwi Trading Post about 40 miles outside the park? I haven't been there for 15 years. Oh, well I'm sure the same guy is still there. He's been there for 21 years. This is the place that, as he claims, parts of the movie Herbie the Love Bug were shot outside the gas pumps. And this is a guy from New Zealand who walks around with a six-shooter sidearm because, you know, the cops told him he might as well do that these days.

03:29 And so, you know, that's where we try to get some snow chains, which he didn't, you know, I'd give them to you, but I don't have any right now. And so anyway, so we drive up, great drive, we're in the hotel and of course there's no cell phone service, I didn't expect to have that up here. You know, I flip on the trusty old iPhone like, hmm, no networks available. Maybe inside the big house. I'm thinking like, maybe there's a place I can sit there and do it. So no, no networks available. Say, hey, you guys got internet? Yeah, we sure do. You just got to drive up to the Redwood Cottages. That's about five minutes down the road. And if you sit in the parking lot outside of the meeting conference room, that's where you got internet.

04:18 uh... that okay that's great so uh... we uh... last night in the dark we drove up here and sure enough and i did a speed check if they've got a megabit up and a megabit down so they do have amita means that the fact john the connection sounds better here than it does between san francisco and the Buzzkill bunker. The connection is outstanding today. So we're sitting in the car, we've got the heater on, I've got the laptop on my lap, I have of course you know everything is battery-powered which was always the intent of my setup so I've got the wireless mic strapped to the Sun Visor, I've got the slider control for volume on my left

05:01 Thigh and then on the middle console. I have the I have the the jingle buttons so the only thing I didn't have that wasn't prepared for was of course a DC to AC converter which is I believe is traveler mistake number 375 because I have one. I mean, I brought everything, man. I brought my VHF radio in case we got stuck in the snow so I could call on the emergency aviation frequency. I mean, everything I could think of, I brought with me except for the DC to AC converters. So this will be a true test of the claims that Apple makes about their laptop batteries. I've got two hours and 16 minutes left on a full battery. Of course, I'm doing a lot of stuff.

05:51 Yeah, if we get to the hour it'll be a miracle. And it literally is snowing. It's beautiful. I mean, the setting could not be nicer. And I've got everything I need except for a little bit... I need more power, Captain! I need some lithium crystals. and the stream is working and uh... in the morning to everybody that's the situation for today show episode number one hundred and sixty john who was our exact besides mickey who i have to put at the top of the list for uh... before arranging everything including the hotel but she's at the top of the list who else do we have is executive producer on the on today's show

CHAPTER 03 / 25 Discussion

Executive Producers, Daniel Rudolph and Stephen Pelsmacher

Daniel Rudolph from Dresden, Germany, and Stephen Pelsmacher from Belgium are credited as executive producers for this episode. Rudolph donated $242, while Pelsmacher contributed a specific sequence of $234.56. The hosts emphasize that these credits are official and can be used on professional resumes.

daniel rudolph· stephen pelsmacher· dresden· belgium· executive producer

06:35 well we have uh... besides a gratuitous when we have uh... daniel rudolph is the executive producer and he is from a dresden that doychland yes has he not to donated before i read the e-mail i think we have a dress tonight before and i think it was him and he did give us two hundred forty two bucks we have it was second uh... uh... associate executive producer uh... steven again Stephen Pelsmacher's this is a yes in their yeah pals and he's from our ones of belgium yes and he gave us two three four five six on a great number great number and uh... steven now you thank you very much in special for the note now it will have a reference from jesse how much did he uh... two forty two two forty two so we have been by a eight bucks

07:36 And that's what happens on The Price is Right. You gotta know how to play it, everybody! Sorry. I got carried away. So that's our executive producers. And it's very important that you understand that this is no bullshit position. I mean, this is a real... a real credit it's on an official show it's in the show notes you can point back to it is in the show itself by the way soon anyone can listen to the program and they'll know that you were an exact real executive producer of an actual piece of entertainment put that on your cv it can get you gigs in hollywood hollywood art that's what i thought i would florida actually be in the internet that they have movie database and that was a you know that you should be able to get it with it can you get a little bit of a lot of the house we visual stuff they don't do radio

CHAPTER 04 / 25 Discussion

Tulip Festival Photography, John C. Dvorak Christmas Gift

John C. Dvorak gifted Adam Curry two large-scale floral photographs taken at a tulip festival in Holland. The prints were produced using a high-end Epson roll printer at the home of Photoshop expert Burt Monroy. The discussion touches on the high cost of professional framing and the legacy of photographer Ansel Adams in the Yosemite region.

tulip festival· holland· photography· burt monroy· ansel adams

08:24 Hmm. Yet. Yeah, exactly. We have to work on that. So anyway, Merry Christmas to you, man. Merry Christmas to you. Thank you so much for your beautiful gift. Oh, you like that? Liked it very much. You know, it's going to determine the entire interior of our house. Everything now has to be red. i think it is a double spot this is a spot are you can put up somewhere next to each other john gave us two beautiful pictures that uh... he took himself these are all to look so i believe john apparently yes yes uh... and that is that not have a photographer of uh... of flowers normally but that it these are from the reside in two cases reminds you of holland is he's retaken in holland at the tulip festival which i went to a last year with during my stint at queensday yes and um...

09:15 You know, it's one of those things that everybody in Holland, I guess, talks about. Oh yeah, the Tulip Festival. You go to this thing, it's for people out there who want to know about it. It's actually worth going to, and of course, everybody in Holland feels this way too. It's actually worth going to once. Yeah. I think I went to it in 1973. I was like cool, all right. Once. But it is like, it's like, I don't know, like five football fields full of tulips. Flowers? Yeah, basically flowers. Mostly yeah, flowers. There's some other flowers besides tulips. It's mostly tulips. And if you like taking, you know, photos, I mean you take just like endless pictures from all sorts of angles with the sun beaming in and whatever of tulips. And you know, it gets old, but again,

10:01 Is it well first of all I feel bad we didn't get you a gift for Christmas. Yeah, you gave me you get this is Yeah, you should feel bad. Yes Scrooge You had these things laying around for months you were planning on bringing him over. No, not really There's supposed to be a housewarming gift and then they turned into a Christmas gift and So I don't feel that bad. Well, no, they weren't hanging around. That's the problem. I just had them made. I had the printouts done on about three weeks ago and then I had to take them to the frame place and it took them two weeks. It was just about last week I got them back. It's really appreciated, John. It was very sweet. Anyway, I should put them, I should have that stuff available for sale. I do have some good hanging art over the, after taking photos for 30 years, you actually accumulate a few decent stuff. Where did you have that printed out?

10:54 I actually went up to Burt Monroy's house, the famous Photoshop guy, who's got this huge Epson, you know, this bed printer, this monster that prints art. Oh, he's got one of those roll things? Yeah, it's roll. So it's a roll printer. So, you know, there's an old adage in photography that if you can't be good, do, you can't do stuff that's good, do stuff that's big. Yeah. Didn't Ansel Adams follow that as well? Not so much. Isn't he from around? Didn't Ansel Adams live up here in Yosemite? He spent most of his time where you are right now, probably in that same parking lot.

11:32 so uh... on the wifi uploading his porn pictures so anyway so that's why so i went up there and i printed a few different monster prints and uh... those are a couple that turns out that the frame is the real expense oh gee why don't you just tell me what it cost a lot anyway so uh... we've got lots of news to go over before the connection dies here Yeah, actually I'm uh... what I wanted to do real quick which one is the best picture, Mickey? Hold on, I just want to retweet this picture so everyone can see it. Oh, you know I didn't even tweet that we're on. Is this the studio setup? Maybe I should do that. Yeah, you tweet that and I'm just gonna... what is it? So, reply... V7... No, retweet V7, that's what I want to do. Here we go. Boom.

CHAPTER 05 / 25 Discussion

Social Media Engagement, Mickey Hoogendijk Twitter Update

The hosts coordinate a social media update to alert listeners that the show is live. Mickey Hoogendijk is mentioned in relation to a photo of the mobile studio setup being shared on Twitter. The segment captures the atmosphere of broadcasting from a car during a snowstorm.

mickey hoogendijk· twitter· retweet· followers· live stream

12:37 There we go. What's that? Yeah, I'm definitely going to retweet them. Well, now that people have Mickey Hoogendyke, now they'll go and check it out from you. Maybe you'll get some new followers out of the deal. Yeah, cool. Yeah, have you retweeted? Have you tweeted, John? I just logged in. Okay, two minutes, two hours, 12 minutes on the official Apple battery timer. So we should be good. I mean, I'm... Yeah, sure. Let me knock on wood. Bend over, baby. Streaming at noagendastream.com, the no agenda show. Oh, in the chat room, Adam is a dick. He needs to give John his plane for Christmas. There you go. Might be some sort of a tax deal. Yeah, I'd love some, babe. Thank you. Whoa. The studio door just closed, as you could tell.

13:38 That's kind of interesting. I haven't done a show from the car in a long time and to do it in this setting... Broadcasting live from the car, Adam Curry! I should do this more often, man. I love this. And it's snowing like crazy outside right now. Sir? Sir? Sir? Are you on a Wi-Fi connection, sir? Open the window. Open the window. Open the window. I think everyone's quite aware as to what I'm doing here. The town is all abuzz. Yo dude, Adam Curry's up here doing a radio show. From his car. What, are you in Maine? Yeah, they're from all over the place up here. No one's really from Yosemite. Yosemite Sam. And he talked with a Texas accent.

CHAPTER 06 / 25 Discussion

Northwest Airlines Flight 253, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab Investigation

Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, referred to as the "crotch bomber," allegedly attempted to detonate an explosive device on a flight from Amsterdam to Detroit. The investigation quickly linked the Nigerian suspect to radical elements in Yemen and the Fort Hood shooter. Skepticism is expressed regarding the speed at which intelligence agencies released detailed background information to the press.

crotch bomber· detroit· amsterdam· umar farouk abdulmutallab· yemen

14:31 Anyway, all right. Here we go. So the news without a doubt and the also the distraction Oh, yeah, it's a combination story. Well, hold on a second. Let me let me pull in the distraction of the week the distraction of the week on the woods and the hook over there Yeah, I think I agree John it is a double story so we well actually it's three stories in one so we should probably do the And you think it could be considered real news as well, yeah, I think so we got a triple play and now that's true flames

15:12 We got a triple play we got a triple play that was a miracle. It's interesting of course we're talking about the the crotch bomber Yeah What's interesting I woke up yesterday morning, and I first found out about this because the Dutch press was Blasted it was completely full front page Dutch heroes saves American plane. I'm like wow This is big And I'm like, wow, so this is, the whole paper is all about the Dutch hero, the Dutch hero, the Dutch hero. And he's a hero in America and he needs to get a medal. And I'm like, whoa, what is this? And there's claims that, oh, the whole, all of American press is talking about our Dutch hero.

16:00 by the way the dutch hero has a photo in face book as name is jasper whatever and he's a thirty two-year-old filmmaker supposedly from amsterdam guys a little company called go with the flow productions and he is picture of face book where he's wearing his legs in a private plane wearing a headset and a microphone to give it a thumbs up anybody gets to see that picture john gruden look-alike who's john gruden he was the former a coach of the uh... uh... uh... tampa bay buccaneers and now is a color commentator on monday night football used to be the coach of the oakland raiders it is just a goofy little guy as soon as i see this picture this guy's got john gruden he's dutch is gruden a dutchman? yeah yeah yeah well could be could be anyway that's just an aside

16:51 It has nothing to do with the actual story, which is a crock of crap. This is the most suspicious story I have ever seen. Let's just do one thing before we start talking about this guy. The crotch bomber. Besides the fact that all the information that came in at first was like it had something strapped to his leg, he had some... It was firecrackers. It was firecrackers. He had a pillow, he was coming out of the bathroom on fire, he was in his seat on fire, his crotch was on fire. There's a million different stories. I hate it when they... I mean if they're gonna do this, at least put out one story. Just get it right the first time. Now here's the one that got me. The plane, I tracked down the times of the plane. The plane left Amsterdam around 8, came in, it was going to land in Detroit at 1140 and I assume it did. So he probably got off the plane around noon. Within, I would say, nine hours, and this is basically overnight because in the morning,

17:44 By 9 in the morning they already had determined who he was, who he was related to, and that he had contacts with the same guy who did the Fort Hood shootings, that same guy in Yemen, coincidentally. he was in touch with this guy all this came out almost instantly. Oh it's amazing! How did they get all, I mean these guys can't find any, they can't find their asses with using both hands but somehow they get all this information within a 20, within a, I'm sorry not 12 but within a 24 hour period because the plane was going to land 1140 so it'd be 11 by before

18:24 1140 the next day and with with all kinds of quotes from people and if you start doing the time stamps are like one in the morning two in the morning and these are like congressmen on vacation who are all ahead of the intelligence committee we had some color we knew he was talking to Yemenis we knew about him he was on the hot list we were tracking this guy we knew about him So, I find that a little suspicious. Well, so of course the number one and this is... Wait, wait, one more thing. If you're investigating something crazy like this, why do you start, why do a million off-the-record sources suddenly appear to give you information? Oh yeah, anonymous, off-the-record, sources within Homeland Security who did not wish to be named. What kind of Homeland Security are we talking about?

19:15 They can't even keep their information secure. Don't you do the investigation and then come out with something instead of leaking a bunch of dubious information out left and right as though it was already determined that you had this, it was already ready to go, plan was in place? So it's obvious why the Dutch paper, the Telegraaf, which is the main paper, the big rag, It's well known that their ties to the intelligence community and they're basically just pass on whatever they're supposed to write, whatever they're told. They're good little foot soldiers. So it's obvious why they blew out all this big hero stuff because God forbid anyone actually start to think about this guy from Nigeria who was walking around Schiphol Airport for three hours with firecrackers in his panties.

CHAPTER 07 / 25 Discussion

PETN Explosive Characteristics, Schiphol Airport Security Breach

The explosive material used in the attempted airline attack is identified as PETN (pentaerythritol tetranitrate). Questions are raised about how the suspect bypassed security at Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam with an incendiary device. Technical details suggest that a significant amount of the chemical would be required to cause catastrophic damage to an aircraft.

petn· schiphol airport· incendiary device· pentaerythritol tetranitrate· explosives

20:03 and then was able to get on the plane with whatever his pillow, his firecrackers, his C4, whatever it was supposed to be. This of course, you know, is in some ways to distract from the fact that Schiphol security, I mean, as far as we're, all we know as Dutch, as Dutchmen, is that Schiphol is only supposed to let the drug couriers go through. They're not supposed to let the firecracker couriers go through. I mean, this is well known. The drugs are allowed to pass, but no bombs, okay? So apparently he... whoops... the coffee has arrived. So apparently he was able to get on with some kind of explosive device which wasn't actually explosive it was, to call it correctly, would be an incendiary device which could have just been his pajamas for all I know. Well yeah, made in China and you know they would catch on fire. So now

21:00 Anyway, so they figure out what this stuff is, or at least what they say, and then it becomes another discrepant piece of information here. The material is called PETN, which is also a vasco-dilator, which is used like nitroglycerin for heart patients, and it's actually, chemically, it's penta-dilator. ethyl ethyl tetra nitrate which is an explosive that's used in mostly in fuses because it creates it has a little it has enough of an impact that it can set off Semtex for example. Right, but it's only, it's like a starter kit. It doesn't actually get you anywhere. You can make it, yes, it can explode. It's very highly explosive. But I think you either have to have it in an enclosure, like a pipe. Yeah. Or something like that. Now they have two different pieces of information. One said it was in a condom. One said it was in a little baby bottle. And one said it was strapped to his leg. And one said it was strapped to his crotch. And somebody said he was injecting liquid into it. You can't take a syringe on the plane.

22:02 Besides that, what is this going to do? I could find no, I looked up this chemical and it's interesting. There's a good Wikipedia article about it, PETN or pentethryl tetranitrate. you can look it up and read all about it and it's kind of interesting but I don't see any connection to liquids where you put some liquid in it and the next thing you know it would blow up the plane. And I also found a reference to this stuff saying it would take you, to blow up a plane it would take you like two kilograms which is a couple of pounds or a kilogram which take a couple of pounds and then there was other mentions of differing amounts. The whole thing seemed kind of weird and why didn't he just go into the bathroom, lock himself in and blow out the back

CHAPTER 08 / 25 Discussion

Full Body Scanners, TSA Security Procedure Changes

The TSA is moving toward implementing full-body scanners at airports following the attempted bombing of Flight 253. Critics argue these measures are designed to sell expensive equipment rather than improve safety, noting that existing swab tests already detect PETN. New restrictions include preventing passengers from leaving their seats during the final hour of flight.

tsa· body scanners· ge· petn· security checkpoints

22:43 the play way you have to be doing it is c to what is the point and why upon final approach what's the point of that or he wanted to do it over american soil well he could have bought you keep could have done that starting at uh... like uh... main you know he waited until the gear came out of the state's me that's the first question all this is questionable well we do know of course because the reports came out immediately as i arrived here in uh... one no no yesterday, picked up a copy of the Wall Street Journal, a fine Murdoch publication, so you know that the Ministry of Truth is printing that. And it's quite obvious that now of course the full body scanners have to come into effect. That's what this all boils down to. This is to sell equipment. Yes, it is. Maybe even by GE. I don't know who makes those things. Wouldn't surprise me. They may be owned by GE, but it's not... I saw those. I went through one once. Yeah, I've gone through one as well. But anyway, so now they've decided to... This is definitely an attempt to sell product.

23:43 And so anyway, so they set up all this new stuff. We gotta do new stuff! We gotta make people stay in their seats. We gotta check them over. We gotta look at everything in their bags. We gotta make their lives miserable! They make their lives miserable until they demand that we stop. And we can only stop by adding new gear. Now, here's an interesting thing to me. These guys obviously aren't doing their job to begin with. I ran into a forum June 23rd, 2006. This guy goes on. uh... if it is such a couple of stories here at the first on the readers can never do it this particular incident but i thought was funny transportation secretary officials grabbed daniel brown at los angeles international airport is two thousand six dragged him off for interrogation causing him to miss his flight brown was part of a group of u s marines all in uniform and carrying military ideas and travel orders but tsa officials say brown had been placed in the agency's no fly list earlier after agents just detected

24:38 gunpowder on his boots on a previous flight that's browns combat boots a previous flight was after his return from combat in iraq this time brown was eventually clear to catch a later flight to minneapolis where he's found his fellow marines waiting for him another guy goes on says gunpowder on marines boots how odd So, the third guy in the same thread says, I had a suitcase hit for PETN, which is this stuff. And by the way, PETN, is the same stuff the shoe bomber tried to ignite and couldn't. Now what now PETN is that explosive? Is that real explosive? That's the the uh... But you need to combine this stuff or you can just light it? No, no it should be you know if you... But in order to get an explosion doesn't have to be contained like in a pipe? I mean a shoe is not really gonna do it is it? Well I guess did it? Or a leg?

25:33 Did it no of course not so now you have what they said it's stuff may have been in a condom which cracked That'd be a good one. So anyway, so let me finish this I had a suitcase hit for PET and some 50 flights ago and I haven't been flagged for anything I can tell he's bitching about it Anyway, wait a minute, he was flying, he was, in other words, those little swab bullshit things that they come in, you know, they swab your laptop for, one of the things it looks for, because they never tell you what this thing does, right? But obviously, one of the things it can find is PETN. So, they're already equipped to detect this stuff. So why

26:12 are they changing any of these procedures when they have the equipment already and they're obviously not using it correctly or they're not doing something right and why blame the passengers? Why blame you and me that we have to suffer now to the point where now they're saying that if you're on a 90 minute flight, heck with the with the fact that you have kids that have to get up, you can't get out of your seat for 90 minutes. Or two hours. You can't get out of your seat from an hour when it takes off to an hour when it lands. This is just to get everybody irked, and they're gonna write their congressman as well as they should, and then they're gonna drop a bunch of money on some other pieces of equipment, because they can't, this is not allowable. And let me give you a couple of other things, you wanna go to pet peeve in a second. You want me to do it now?

CHAPTER 09 / 25 Discussion

Airline Policy Restrictions, United and Delta Security Measures

United Airlines and Delta Air Lines implemented immediate restrictive policies in response to the Detroit bombing attempt. United disabled in-flight entertainment systems to hide flight path maps, while Delta prohibited the use of blankets and laptops on certain routes. These measures are criticized as being overly burdensome to passengers without addressing core security flaws.

united airlines· delta air lines· in-flight entertainment· blankets· laptops

26:55 Go ahead. These airline dipshits are just as bad as the TSA. Listen to these two, these are two kind of stories that didn't get a lot of play, but I ran into them. This happened right afterwards, instantly, because everybody knew we had to do something immediately. Of course, of course. Listen to this. A Wall Street Journal reporter preparing to depart Saturday from Hong Kong on a Chicago-bound flight from United Airlines in Hong Kong said the airline informed passengers and this is a long miserable flight. Yes, it's what 18 hours? Something like that, or 14 at least. Said the airline informed passengers it wouldn't have any entertainment aboard the flight or any other United flights in an apparent security measure. The entertainment systems typically feature on-screen locator maps.

27:47 that chart the flight's path. And you can listen to the cockpit, the flight deck on channel 9 on the United In-Flight Entertainment System. So they don't want anybody looking at the map and saying I'm over Tulsa. Time to light my crotch on fire. Yeah, so let me just... Let's go another one. Oh my goodness. Were you going to let me in edgewise for one second? Well it's my pet peeve at the moment. Oh true. One couple which asked that their names not be used for good reason said that during their flight to Atlanta from Managua, Nicaragua Delta another asshole airline Delta flight attendants notified passengers that they could not place blankets or pillows on their laps Yeah, because you might be lighting your crotch underneath them

28:37 And despite the fact that the plane utilized wireless internet, apparently bragging about it, you couldn't use your laptop during the flight. So, okay, so why don't we all just strip naked before we get on the plane and just walk around into the plane naked, strap yourself in and shut up slave! That's what they want. Isn't that the fight? Isn't that the end game here? It's what it sounds like. Yeah, you know, so you can't use your laptop now this will go over big you can't use your laptop or you can't wear a lap blanket you're gonna have to freeze your ass off on the plane and you can't watch anything no entertainment for you John C. Devorah X Pet Peeve of the Day or in other words

29:25 How does the public put up with this crap? We have to write our congressman telling them that they're out of office if they don't end this now. John, the reason why is because of the fluoride and the lithium ion in the water. That's why we put up with this crap. We're all dumbed down. We're like, hey, that's okay. I'm sure we can play cards. Ooh, I hope the cards aren't too sharp because I could cut someone's throat with that. Well, they might be taken away from me. That's what's going on. We gotta do that goofball voice more. Yeah, I don't know. How about some dominoes? Oh, you might be able to throw the domino and hit the flight attendant in the head. Oh, can't use those. And by the way, and so far as Al Qaeda is concerned, you know, this... You mean that fake terrorist group that doesn't actually exist? Yeah, that one. Well, I'll tell you, they do have a

CHAPTER 10 / 25 Discussion

Al-Qaeda Database Theory, Yemen Military Consultants

The term Al-Qaeda is described as a CIA database of radicals rather than a cohesive terrorist organization. The sudden focus on Yemen is linked to potential interests in new oil fields and recent military consultant deployments. The narrative connects the Detroit incident to broader geopolitical goals in the Middle East and Africa.

al-qaeda· cia· yemen· oil fields· fort hood

30:16 there's something to that, of course, there's some group that does that coordination, but they all if those if that group quote unquote, whatever, whatever form they're in, they excuse me, they always do simultaneous things. They do like six things at once, you know, they blow up five hotels, or they bought six cars. I mean, it's all your bang, bang, bang, bang, bang all over the place to cause confusion like they did in Spain when they hit all those trains at once. It's not that one lone guy catching his dick on fire. So there's more to come, is that what you're saying? No, no, that would have already happened. It's always bang, bang, bang within a few hours of each other. So this guy had no connection to anything, he was a psycho. Well first of all, the Al-Qaeda of course was, if it ever existed other than what it stands for, the database, which was a CIA database of radicals that were funded by the CIA in Afghanistan against the Russians,

31:10 So if it ever did really exist... You know, then the, the, or, and by the way, notice the Yemen, the Yemeni connection there, which is... Oh yeah, the Yemen thing that came up. Right, right. Oh, that's so coincidental. Oh, that's so nice, isn't it? Yeah, of course. If you attack Yemen, I mean, it's obvious that there's something in Yemen we gotta get to. Either the new oil fields, hello. Yeah, that would be, that would be nice. New oil. Something. So we got Yemen, so there's an immediate Yemen angle. Out of the blue, by the way, this just began recently. If you, you pointed out a couple weeks ago, we first noticed it. You know, we're gonna send a few consultants into Yemen. Next thing you know, this happens and this guy's hooked up to Yemen. The Ford Hood thing. What ever happened to that guy, by the way? Oh, who cares? He was awake and talking, remember? They had him talking about stuff. What's he doing now? Is he at home? The news media doesn't give a crap. No one cares. No one cares. But he had Yemen. There was Yemen, Yemen, Yemen. So now we got this guy, this bonehead. And then of course his dad's a banker, which makes it funnier.

CHAPTER 11 / 25 Discussion

Biometric Profiling Risks, RFID Tracking Technology

Full-body scanners are characterized as tools for creating biometric profiles of citizens rather than simple security checks. These profiles could potentially be linked to individuals via RFID readers scanning passports or credit cards in the vicinity. There is a noted lack of coverage from Silicon Valley tech reporters regarding the long-term surveillance implications of this technology.

biometrics· rfid· privacy· silicon valley· surveillance

32:09 So I gotta read you something. I didn't know that part, that his dad was a banker. Yeah, his dad's a major Nigerian banker. Wait a minute, I've got an email from his dad. You did? He's got some money stashed away. Yeah, he's got some... I think I sent him some dough. Wait a minute, I could be... I have links to Al-Qaeda now. Oh my gosh. But before you do that, John, let me just talk for one second about these body scanners and what the actual... and I had this conversation with Mickey last night. who of course has nothing to hide. Always remember, she has nothing to hide, she doesn't care. So, these full body scanners, what they do is they're making a biometric profile of you. So it's not just a picture of you naked, which the guys are passing around at TSA because you know they are.

32:56 There's some douchebag sitting there in the back and they're talking in the headset like, oh, that guy's got a huge cock. Let him through, he's good. Nothing else to see here. Oh, you know they do that. Oh, of course. John, you and I would. We'd be sitting there going... Anybody would. You're bored. It's a boring job. You're sitting there for eight hours. Holy crap! This guy's dick's got a knee on it! Look, we should name that thing. Look at her implants. Oh my goodness. Give those a little pat down. Those are good. So the biometric profile is what this is really about. This is almost like a fingerprint. So this has always been my pet peeve.

33:39 of these biometric scanners is it you know it's like them saying oh you want to fly we need your fingerprint there's no difference it's like taking your DNA and this biometric profile can be seen essentially from a satellite from outer space so they could if they want to track you now there is no immediate connection between you and a uh... and the biometric profile your your identity unless of course you happen to have your passport or your real idea drivers license or even your bus card on you or your credit card because the rfid readers which i'm sure are in the booth

34:17 while you're standing there, they connect your actual identity to your biometric profile. This is worse than license plate tracking. And no one's ever talking about it. No one ever reports, by the way, where are all the Silicon Valley tech reporters? Yeah, I'm looking at you, John. What do these things actually do? What is this biometric profiling about? It's not just to look through your clothes, it's actually making a biometric picture of you. Can we get a little more detail on this stuff? No problem, any minute. So I want to mention that while you're talking about that, for people worried about what he just said, which is the fact that they're going to be looking at your RFID tags, go to kenakai.com and pick yourself up one of his wallets.

CHAPTER 12 / 25 Discussion

TSA Weekly Reports, Lead Foil Security Prank

The TSA's weekly activity report is reviewed, noting the seizure of 17 firearms and various "artfully concealed" items. A hypothetical practical joke is described involving the use of lead foil cut into the shape of a revolver and hidden in a book. The hosts warn that such actions would likely lead to legal trouble and loss of freedom.

tsa· jack hoffman· firearms· lead foil· practical jokes

35:50 uh... i think that before you drift around so i have another thing to talk about let me just hit this real quick i know we're all excited calm down producer jack hoffman said that i had a meal you should do a weekly feature about the tsa because they're so proud on their website they report exactly what they've done each week and for the week of the the fourteen through the twenty first the tsa reports thirteen passengers were arrested after investigations of suspicious behavior or fraudulent travel documents i.e. passport in a faraday cage

36:27 17 firearms were found at checkpoints. Now of course there's no actual, you know, that could be toy guns for all I know. You know, could it have been replicas, could have been antiques, you know. Somehow I doubt that if someone with a gun showed up at TSA that was actually intending some malice that that wouldn't have been front page news. But okay, 17 firearms. One instance of artfully concealed prohibited items at checkpoints. And I'm not supposed to be looking for that. I love the artfully concealed sounds like free hollow books calm to me Yeah, free hollow books.com and then 18 incidents that involved a checkpoint closure terminal evacuation or sterile area breach Good going guys, but we didn't sniff the gunpowder Yeah, good work. So

37:23 That reminds me of the, uh, of something I was in the process of, I lost it. Never mind. I'm sorry, man. What was the beginning? What was the first thing you mentioned about that? I've got to remember your age. Huh? What was the first thing that was on that list? 13 passengers. Oh no, I get it. It reminds me of a, you know, if you want to play a practical joke on somebody. Yeah, at a TSA checkpoint, which is always a good idea. I'm just saying, if you wanted to play a practical joke on somebody. It's the place for practical jokes. This is a place you could do it. If you're a fraternity guy, you're going to really think this is a great idea. Yeah. Okay. So what you do is you get, I think we have said this before on the show, because I still think this is one of the great gags. First, let me get really high so I can do this right away. So,

38:04 So first you gotta give me, it has to be a friend of yours that's always reading big, you know, especially guys that pack those big giant books. Oh yeah, I know a couple of those. You take it, so you get some, go to the, some, you know, chemical supply, any place where you can get lead foil, get a big, you know, piece of lead foil about one foot by one foot and then cut out the outline of a revolver. Yeah, this is a great gag. Lead foil and stick it in the book. And, you know, they may or may not find it before they pack the book, but whatever the case is, I guarantee... This is very funny. ...they would, they would, the alarms would go off as this person went through the... No, you think, you think? Okay, some advice as given on no agenda, not actually to be tried out. Not really a good idea if you value your freedom.

CHAPTER 13 / 25 Discussion

Nigerian News Perspective, Taliban Soldier Video

Nigerian news sources report that American security forces stormed six northern Nigerian cities, including Kano and Kaduna, immediately following the Detroit flight incident. This military activity coincided with the Taliban's release of a video featuring a captured U.S. soldier in Afghanistan. These events suggest a coordinated international response that was largely ignored by Western media.

nigeria· taliban· afghanistan· al-qaeda· sun news online

38:56 So, let's just go over something here. This is something I decided to read about this whole incident, instead of reading about it in the American press, the European press, I decided to read it in the Nigerian price yes a fine thing to do John very smart if I'd had any internet connectivity I would have done the same alright so there's a whole bunch of stuff here in this but here's what's interesting and this you won't hear on your regular news ladies and gentlemen which is why we keep it big and for money %uh The timing of the attempted attack could be significant. It was eight years ago this week that a similar attempted attack was launched by a British member of Al Qaeda who tried to blow up a flight from Paris to Miami by igniting explosives in his shoes. Same stuff, by the way. And of course, eight years is the cycle. This fresh attempt comes on the same day that Taliban released a video of the US soldier that's holding captain of Afghanistan.

39:50 Hello? Did you know that? Uh, no. I did not. The Taliban just released a video. Oh yes, I did see that. Yeah, he's been captured since June or July, I believe, right? And they released a video, but this is bigger news so that no one's looking at the video. But! This is the part that you're not going to read locally. In less than 24 hours after this incident, American security forces were said to have stormed some northern Nigerian cities like Kano, Katsina, Kanduna, Jos, Jamfra, and Magudguri. Wait a minute! We stormed Nigerian cities? One, two, three, four, five, six of them.

CHAPTER 14 / 25 Discussion

National Debt Limits, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Bailouts

The U.S. government quietly removed spending limits for the national debt and eliminated bailout caps for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. This legislative move, occurring under the cover of the "crotch bomber" news cycle, potentially puts taxpayers on the hook for hundreds of billions in mortgage liabilities. Executive compensation for the CEOs of these entities was also renegotiated to include multi-million dollar packages.

national debt· fannie mae· freddie mac· wall street journal· bailouts

40:30 in search of al-qaeda related outfits. Oh hold on a second. Don't look over here. Nothing to see here. This is unbelievable. and you know there's one other little diddy that just happened john at the same moment coincidentally and uh... i have to give props to the murdoch publication wall street journal uh... for putting to the two stories on the same page uh... in a quick little flurry vote sixty to thirty nine i believe of course you can figure out who the sixty were who thirty nine were uh... gasp uh... our government decided to uh... remove all spending limits

41:09 for the national debt as well as remove all limits for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Essentially now the government can be on the hook to bail them out for up to two or three hundred billion dollars currently at about sixty each while the CEO's packages have also been negotiated six million dollars for each CEO of Fannie Mae Freddie Mac and some other huge bonuses. So this all happened kind of under the same cover of the crotch bomber, which is what will dominate the news and all. I mean, the actual spending limit, the spending limit. I mean, this is how much money we've all agreed we should spend. They just, oh, forget it, let's just remove that. We'll just change that. That's no problem. We should be able to spend more. No big. By the way, it's for money we've already spent. Exactly. And we invaded three, was it three cities in Nigeria?

42:00 six six cities of the cities john is like village like me and they're probably says cities in this and in this newspaper data you know that the city's is up for interpretation so much got to look up a couple go online lookup kano kato and katina those would be two of them and you can do you know extrapolate from that they're probably small towns i'm guessing cranes article in the sun news online which is a Nigerian publication, security force sources claims the CIA is apparently in Nigeria and not helping us much with those Nigerian scams by the way. Yeah. Believes that the radical Islamist sects in these cities have been infiltrated by Al Qaeda. But another security source claims that the CIA has been operating in several cities in the north since July when the Boko Haram Islamic sect

CHAPTER 15 / 25 Discussion

Nigeria Military Infiltration, Crotch Bomber Media Distraction

The CIA has reportedly been operating in Nigeria since July 2009, following confrontations with the Boko Haram sect. The rapid coordination of city raids in Nigeria and the focus on Yemen are viewed as pre-planned operations accelerated by the Detroit bombing attempt. The "crotch bomber" narrative is identified as a primary media distraction from significant changes in federal spending and mortgage market oversight.

nigeria· cia· boko haram· yemen· mortgage market

42:51 had a confrontation with the police and the army says all hell's breaking loose in nigeria and i believe we don't know any of that we have bases over there in nigeria no well but i mean i would be good with these troops are cia that did these invasions and support you know we can't get so we we approved forty thousand new troops to afghanistan which will take uh... six months to get forty thousand guys over there meanwhile within one second of the crotch bomber uh... the crotch bombers attack we're able to coordinate six cities to be invaded this is not something that's not a spur of the moment call from the white house like a you know what was going to get those nigerians now go go go this is set up this is what i really like this yemenese thing going on too

43:38 It's a quintuple whammy is the way I see it, John. It's more than just the new security systems. It's more than just the out and out removal of all freedom. Sit down, slave. You can't get your carry-on luggage. Next will be no carry-on luggage. I guarantee you that. No using your laptop. You can't have a blanket even if you're cold. What? You're pregnant? I don't give a crap. I don't care about you, slave. Shut up. and they were invading cities in nigeria we've we're now we have almost card blanche for yemen because of course this guy was from yemen now he was in contact with that horrible guy in the amenity well same thing so this is like all the and and and on the car under the cover of night we've raised our bar constitutional limits on national debt and we've effectively given a complete

44:29 card blanched to all the mortgage related companies because Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac back up almost every single mortgage in the United States. So we'll be paying for all of these bogus mortgages. You watch the mortgage market now heat up all of a sudden and all of that go on to the books of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac which we are directly responsible for. We own these companies. They're 85% owned by the United States taxpayer. So all of this happens in the span of not even 36 hours. And what you're going to see for the next two weeks, probably up until something horrible, someone blows their fingers off on New Year's Eve, you're going to see nothing on the news except the crotch bomber. And I hope they call him the crotch bomber because that makes it even that more funny. It's like balloon boy.

45:15 and that's all it's i think that mean is set already is crotch bomber that's all you're going to see is crotch bomber this crotch bomber that you'll hear a little bit about the you know the security systems and oh we know it's very important we have to get new systems in place meanwhile all this other crap is you won't hear about this night these nigerian invasions i guarantee you won't read about it anywhere thank you john for being so smart as to use a web browser You know, this is what any publication could do, but they don't. We here at No Agenda do. We take the time... Now, you know, the funny thing is about the whole crotch bomber incident. Besides the fact that it was... it was... there's all this discrepant information. I'm looking at some other stuff about, you know, the security transportation... well, let's go back to the equipment, that thesis.

CHAPTER 16 / 25 Discussion

Airport Scanner Inefficiency, Schiphol Gate Security

Personal experiences with airport scanners suggest they are inefficient, often requiring manual pat-downs even after a successful scan. Security at Schiphol Airport is described as having unsophisticated checkpoints at individual gates that rely on basic metal detectors. The failure to stop the Detroit suspect is attributed to systemic apathy and the rehiring of the same personnel under new agency names.

airport security· schiphol· metal detectors· x-ray· pat-downs

46:05 If it's to buy these expensive scanners, which I've been through one by the way. Yeah, I've been through one. They're terrible and here's the joke of it. I've said this anecdote before I'm gonna say it again. You don't have to honk the horn. I go to San Francisco. I say you can either go to over there or you're gonna get patted down or you can go through the this device. So I go on the device. Hold your arms up. Yeah. Above your head. The thing goes around and you get out and they pat you down anyway. Just do you know what they're doing they look to see what they can find on you with the thing and they say and the guys patchy Dice aha there is a comb back here. Just like it said they're just doing it to confirm what they say it worked the system worked We found your code get padded down screw it just go get padded down

46:46 So don't go through that thing, it's embarrassing. Well sometimes you can't avoid it. Well anyway, the point I was trying to make, I'm stumbling around here, let's get back to it. You would be selling these things, but they're not going to sell them in all the airports around the world. No. It's only for the American market. Oh but don't worry, don't worry. They're coming in to get my nation lowlands because these are the guys that screwed it up. They let this crotch guy on the plane. So they're gonna, they already have it. Not because Nigeria is where he got on his first plane, they're never gonna do anything there. He wandered around Schiphol Airport for three hours and then went through another security checkpoint. Do we know that for a fact or was it a connection? Because when I fly into a... No, no, no, before you get on the plane at Schiphol Airport, at the gate is where they have another metal detector and x-ray machine. At the gate itself.

47:34 So, yes, and they confirmed this, so I'm going to have to believe that they did. He could not be roaming around the tax-free area and then not go through some sort of checkpoint. So he had to go through that, but it wasn't a bomb sniff. It's a very unsophisticated checkpoint. It's just a metal detector and x-ray machine. And these people, I mean, God bless them, I'm well known in Holland and I'm always joking and they're just boneheads. They're just people who just, you know, they're working 25 hours a week, you know, they got other shit to do, they don't care. Everyone knows these are the same people who used to do airport security before the TSA and Homeland Security. It's the same people, they hired the same people back for twice the money. You know why?

CHAPTER 17 / 25 Discussion

No Agenda Value-for-Value Funding Model

The No Agenda show operates exclusively on listener donations, eschewing traditional advertising. Listeners are encouraged to support the program through PayPal subscriptions, with $5 monthly donations highlighted as a vital base for operations. The hosts contrast their independent reporting on Nigeria and federal spending with the narrow focus of mainstream Sunday news programs.

donations· paypal· value-for-value· producers· starbucks

48:17 Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! So what I was leading up to John is that this is the type of reporting that you don't get on mainstream media and I guarantee you that even if you turn on NPR or PBS you're gonna get everything about the crotch bomber and nothing about the raising of the constitutionally determined federal spending limit or about Fannie Mae Freddie Mac. That was done covertly. And in order to continue, in order for me to get a hotel that has Wi-Fi in the hotel room itself, I need you to help us out and support us. And there's only one way that we generate any kind of revenue on this program and it's through donations from our listeners slash producers. If you've been listening since the beginning then you heard our

49:13 Our executive producers right up front, they donated the most money this week which is highly appreciated. But it's even those $5 donations that come in. The ones that are on subscription so we have a base so we can at least know we got like 500 bucks a week. Is that about it for the $5 donations? Am I just guessing? We haven't gotten the $500 a week from the $5 donations. So even if you're making a larger donation, please consider signing up for a $5 a month as well. You know, you're essentially replacing one trip to Starbucks, if that. Or a parking meter. Yeah, in San Francisco. God forbid you don't put... You know it's five cents for twenty-five cents for five minutes. I know. Sorry. I know, I know. It's an outrage. By the time you put the last quarter in, the first five minutes are over. The first one at least. The first minute is over. Yeah, you're absolutely right.

50:02 So the way you do that is very simple. We set it up through PayPal. We wish we had a different system, but it works the best so far. You can go to noagendashow.com and click on the link on the right or go to dvorak.org slash NA. Sign up for one of our plans, our $5 a month. Those are really important to us. Or we'd be happy to receive more. uh... and i think that after will be following these stories and and just do a comparison doing a b comparison flip on uh... what is it uh... meet the press turn on any any news program today all the sunday shows you see what they're talking about we talk about new security machines and the crotch bomber they will not be talking about invasions in nigeria they will not be talking about uh... removing constitutionally installed limits on federal spending or the

CHAPTER 18 / 25 Discussion

Donation Segment, International Producer Credits

A list of $50 donors and international producers is read, including contributors from Germany, Australia, and Canada. Notable mentions include Oliver Kiesler from Cologne and Christopher Griep from Edmonton, whose last name translates to "flu" in Dutch. The segment is briefly interrupted by Wi-Fi signal interference caused by a vehicle parking near the mobile studio.

cologne· germany· new south wales· ontario· alberta

50:53 removal of caps on what Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac who secure all mortgages in the United States that they've been removed along with some nice tidy little bonuses for the federal workers who are the CEOs of those companies. Or more importantly taking the entertainment off their Hong Kong flight in United. Those bastards. At the end of the day it's more important that we have entertainment. You're right. So let's go over some of the people that gave us some money. I have a charlie horse. Okay would being in that car would imagine once you get out, why it was actually not that much because it's Christmas it was Christmas and so we got you know, we got tops getting warm. It's we got Daniel Rudolph Dresden Deutschland 242. He's one of our he's the executive producer and Steven Pels maker.

51:43 uh... in belgium two thirty four fifty six also erin tunstall clement deframed erin tunstall from clementine new jersey jersey in the house i was waiting for some jersey to show up one oh one oh one Yeah, we're smart that way in Jersey 10101 a palindrome and then we had a bunch of $50 contributors and I'll just run down him Oliver Kiesler our Kiesler from current Deutschland also known as Cologne Germany Okay, I know we're currently as we pronounce it colon. Oh

52:19 uh... beautiful town by the way if anybody is traveling and you get to stop in cologne do it it's not like frankfurt it's not like frankfurt no no it's not like frankfurters in this beautiful town barry wilson's got a great cathedral skepticism is a poll that was you do was bombed to the ground but they did but instead the allied bombers use it as a landmark so never forgot bombs for you get to see to win gothic girl or hold on a lot of things are also i think it's romanesque you're breaking up a lot of uh... john hold on one second you you were breaking up there for a second

52:59 And I have a good connection, we're still streaming. Okay, try it again. Hello? No, you are, you are breaking. Hello? But that's you, John. Oh, John? Oh, hello? Uh, hold on, I'm getting timeouts everywhere here, hold on a second. Oh boy. Are you still there? Yeah, can you hear me? I can hear you. Yeah, you were breaking up a little bit. You know what's happening? Yeah, and your batteries are so low that the radio is not getting enough juice. No, that's not it. That's not it. Okay, I think we're back. You know what happened? A car pulled up right in front of the building that has the Wi-Fi and I think we got some bad deflection. Well, you want to move your car? No. Oh shit, don't park there.

53:54 don't all jesus bastard don't park there you still there john yeah okay go through the this is to pick it up from currently selling a m against that check that she before that's okay it'll pick up it's gotten busy bus guy it's very well set new south now hold on hold on hold on it's not gonna get the same yeah well i'm not sure if they are not to move the car okay hold on a second Can you just stay with me? Hold on, Mickey can you hold on? Yeah, why don't you see, you should have been closer to begin with. No, this is a good spot. Hold on, Mickey's gonna hold the studio. All right.

54:30 You still there, Jarv? He's pushing it, Jarv. I'm pushing it. Yeah! Yeah, hold on a second. I just gotta move it to a different location. We have a mobile studio now? Yeah. Now we're actually driving. Oh my God. Driving. There's rocks. You're gonna park. Yeah, I'm gonna park it behind this guy over here. Hold on. Are you sure? Can you still hear me, Jon? Yeah, I can hear ya. Okay. Yeah, let me... Oh, what's this douchebag doing here? Wait a minute. I gotta roll it around. Hold on. Another classic from the No Agenda show. Hold on a second, if I turn it around right here and I put it right in front of this building here we may be okay. Yeah, hold on. We don't have quite the view that we had before, but... Well, they were parked for the view. Hold on. Let me just back it up a little bit. This will be better, I think.

55:21 Well, not that we've dropped down to sub-quality. Well, that's just... I'm getting you fine. Oh, okay. Well then... Hold on. Alright. So, park, lights off. Thank you, Dora. While he's driving around, let me mention the other names. Okay, hit me with the names. We've got another... The Connection is back. Barry Wilson, New South Wales, Coffs Harbor as a matter of fact, these are all $50 donors. Also we have a couple of our Knights that came in again this month at OKC, Defense of Tactics and DUI-help.com. Thomas Penton in Springfield, Oregon. Chris Engler who gives every so often and he's in Milton, Ontario. And finally from Edmonton, Alberta, fine little town.

56:04 Christopher Grip, G-R-I-E-P, and he sends a call out to Adam saying, isn't it great that my last name is the Dutch word for flu? Yes, for flu. I was just about to say that. That would of course sound like grip as we would say in English. Grip, G-R-I-E-P, is indeed the Dutch word for flu. Yes, great. How much did he give us? These are all 50. Great. Let me give you some flu back. So that's it for this week. That's it? Yeah, that's it. That's not very good, John. Well, it's because Christmas took a day out of the whole thing and that was the end of it. That's not good, dude. We'll do better before next Thursday, I'm sure of it. Please, I hope. This was... I wish... Mickey should have videotaped that, but she was too busy holding the studio together. That was funny.

CHAPTER 19 / 25 Discussion

Iraq Inquiry Testimony, Missing British Archive Telegrams

Testimony from a former British ambassador to the U.S. during the Iraq Inquiry reveals that key briefing telegrams from 2002 have disappeared from official archives. The missing documents reportedly detailed agreements between the U.S. and UK regarding UN processes prior to the invasion. The discussion touches on the vulnerability of digital records and the suspicious death of a technician who maintained Bush administration emails.

iraq inquiry· c-span· tony blair· george w. bush· archives

56:53 Just driving from one spot to the other. Because all of a sudden, it's like coffee break. Everyone showed up here. And you could literally see the car roll up and I'd see the Wi-Fi signal decrease. So now I'm actually in front of this building. People are like, what's he doing talking to himself? What is this guy doing? He's stealing porn. Yeah. All right. So let's, I got a couple of clips that I sent you. Let's play. Yeah, good. What you got going here? Well, let's see. What do you have there on the list? I've got Are You Mad? British Ambassador. civility okay that one did british play the british and that is a very nice to see it differently have to say i'll take british ambassador for three hundred adam so i the british ambassador clip i this is not will be a this is a the inquiry on iraq apparently c-span ran out of material to several congress took off on vacation except the one or two guys sticking around to to be the mouthpieces for the uh... crotch bomber

57:48 But, essentially, I was listening to this inquiry which is extremely dull, but I picked up this one little tidbit just in this one clip and I want to just highlight it for people so they know that this may be happening. Play the British ambassador. This is the ambassador until 2003 from the UK to the US. So the window they were given to operate in was so small, was it a window at all? Well, that is an extremely good question. I warned London after Bush announced, shortly before Tony Blair's visit to Camp David on the 7th of September of 2002, I said in a briefing telegram, again, which you can't find in the archives, not somebody I think who existed, I said in a briefing telegram that in principle, the British and American sides are agreed

58:46 that we should exhaust the UN processes. What? Okay, alright. Now what, the interesting thing about this wasn't what he said, but it was that, a side comment where he says, in a briefing telegram, which I couldn't find in the archives, but I know exists, apparently was in the archives, and has disappeared with God knows what else. I think that the archives of all, both the US, England and every place else are being ransacked probably as we speak so we won't have any of this information except for the few guys that do this kind of testimony.

59:27 And you know they could deny that I don't know there's nothing in here. Well of course, but this is I mean it was funny I guess a couple weeks ago 20 million emails from the Bush administration showed up all of a sudden. Do you recall that the Bush administration had an off-site email system they used and the guy who maintained it had an unfortunate accident in his private plane? Yeah. Remember we we covered that never heard about that guy again either. Yes, the internet knew yeah, I think incident. Oh, yeah Yeah, it's yeah, so I think stuff got really easy when it when it all turned digital You know because it used to be you know, you can't just carry out archives from from you know Eight years of an administration or 20 years of the UN, you know, that's that's too many boxes That's heavier than gold

CHAPTER 20 / 25 Discussion

Clorox H1N1 Advertisement, FDA Regulation of Health Claims

A Clorox television advertisement is analyzed for its heavy promotion of the H1N1 flu vaccine and disinfection protocols. While major corporations like Clorox and Lysol use the pandemic for branding, the FDA reportedly suppresses smaller entities making health claims about Vitamin D or organic antivirals. The hosts note the rise of contextual advertising that targets "swine flu" keywords in digital media.

clorox· h1n1· fda· lysol· vitamin d

1:00:20 you know so now digital is just like oops rm star oh sorry didn't mean to do that didn't mean to hurt you so what are the clips i got there i got the uh are you mad sounds kind of good is that just like a little uh highlight jingle thingy there that are you mad are you mad what sort of a wild goose chase are you suggesting it's ridiculous it's time to put a stop to this Okay, John, you were doing production. Instead of wasting your time doing that, why don't you send everybody who's donated money an email? That would be more fun. I'm gonna do that. So now what else is on there? Oh, here's one. I saw a Clorox ad.

1:01:03 which had more promotion for H1N1 and also they slipped in a flu vaccine, kind of get yourself a shot. Meanwhile, they never mentioned Clorox in this ad. This is the advertisement one. You'll see it, H1N1 I think. And they play the whole thing and it's this woman using different Clorox products to scrub down everything. I'm surprised she's not squirting the baby with this stuff. Don't try this at home. When it comes to fighting flu viruses like 2009 H1N1, there are several steps you can take. Wash your hands and get your flu shot. Regularly disinfect surfaces to reduce the spread of germs. And perhaps the most important step of all, talk to your friends about doing the same. Instead of spreading flu viruses like 2009 H1N1,

1:01:52 Let's help spread protection. Yeah! Yay! Hey John, I need to talk to you. As a friend... Hey, when did H1N1 become a brand name? Dude, it's... What do you mean? It's a perfect brand name. It's probably the most recognized brand in the world right now. It should get an award for being the best brand. You know, Lysol is doing the same thing and if you ever have listened to No Agenda on the Mevio site, which has contextual advertising systems built in, it actually starts off with a pre-roll of Lysol because they, I guess, go through the show notes and they see H1N1 links and swine flu and bada bing, you know, we get all these targeted ads for Lysol.

1:02:31 I mean this is a very typical part of the whole program. Everyone's jumping on board. And by the way, anyone who has any kind of Organic flu, anti-flu, anti-viral herbicide or anything but medication who's advertising that on the web, they're being pulled down by the FDA. The FDA shames them. The FDA sends them threatening letters. So if you just have like vitamin D and you say, you know, vitamin D can actually build up your immune against influenza-like symptoms. the FDA will have you take it down but it's okay you know to for Lysol and Clorox to advertise using the who knows maybe they've licensed it yeah I wouldn't surprise me if they if you can license H1N1 from the CDC. Wouldn't surprise me at all. As an advertising vehicle. Sure why not why not there was there's something I wanted to mention

CHAPTER 21 / 25 Discussion

Political Civility Roundtable, Bloggers and Wise Guys

A government roundtable discussion regarding the decline of civility in politics blames the influence of bloggers and "wise guys." The hosts reject this narrative, pointing out that historical political discourse in the 1800s was significantly more violent and confrontational. The segment criticizes the self-importance of political officials and the establishment of "free speech zones."

civility· bloggers· jesse helms· claiborne pell· free speech zones

1:03:31 As we are at one hour and five minute battery time left, I have to say Apple not too bad. And I'm processing at 90% because of the stream and because of the recording and the Skype connection. So, so far so good. Okay, so I got one more clip I believe. All right. No you don't. You don't have any more clips. Civility, yes you do. So this was a meeting, they had a bunch of, these guys that are talking are like the chief of staffs of various governors and just a bunch of second layer guys that you don't even know, never heard of. But this commentary just irked the crap out of me because it's so bogus. But I want you to just play it and you'll see what I'm talking about.

1:04:19 I actually think that civility is an issue. I do think that we're a less civil society as a whole. I mean, anybody on the media side... Wait a minute, where's this from? This is from a roundtable discussion about how various... how various offices in other words how how do they operate you know how does it what is the head of Chief of Staff do and how things organize and and then what's what's changing what trends do you see and you know it's kind of bogus like an off-site it's like an a government yes like a government but it's what I think it's open for people to listen in and it's just bull but I listen to this crap and I'm going this kid this is so

1:05:00 this is nonsense but play play the thing i'm talking about civility you know how things have changed have gone downhill because of bloggers oh let's go let's go let's listen to it you know what it reminds me of what we do to make the show work which is you know bitch a bunch of people in the face that was the cue for you to hit the oh you mean like our formula the one that is so breathtakingly simple our formula is this we go out We hit people in the mouth. Hell yeah! Hell yeah! And we do it while driving our cars with our hands tied behind our back. Okay, so play this clip. I actually think that I think civility is an issue I do think that we're less civil civil society as a whole I mean anybody on the media side the kind of blogs you're now getting you wouldn't have gotten 20 years ago, so For some reason we're a more wise guy in your face society, and I think some of that spills over into our politics Alan I have to I have to end at least on a slightly upbeat on there I agree that there's I agree that the

1:06:03 the civility issue in the years that we were up there going back to Hubert Humphrey and George McGovern and over it changed dramatically but I will never never forget one night very late we'd finished a budget one o'clock two o'clock. We actually worked overtime in the morning nobody was around and we're going down those escalators to go down to take the tram back over to the to the Dirksen office building and there were these two senators in front of me, both elderly senators, both having trouble walking. One was helping the other and it was Jesse Helms and Claiborne Pell helping them get on the tram. That still

1:06:53 Sticks in my mind as the type of Senate that we used to have I doubt if I would find that today John Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth You know, these guys are, they are, they think they're gods. They're so full of themselves and this is so much bullshit because back in the 1860s they used to throw shit at each other in Congress. Yes, which is what we should be doing. and

1:07:46 eggs and tomatoes and if they didn't like the performance they'd start throwing the stuff and that's why they had to bring a screen down you know some sort of gauze to keep the guys from getting killed. Now what are they talking about civility today? Yeah these guys should be happy that we're only doing this on blogs and on podcasts they should be happy because we should be punching them in the mouth. That's what we should be doing in the 1800s. They're the ones who set up the free speech zone. Yeah, lock me up in the free speech zone as predicted by George Orwell in 1984. So I find it extremely offensive to listen to these a-holes going on and on about, you know, bloggers, no civility, they're just wise guys, I tell you. Those Curry and Dvorak, they're wise guys. They don't help old ladies across the street like I did when I was a boy.

CHAPTER 22 / 25 Discussion

Goldstone Report, Israeli Diplomatic Recall

The UN Goldstone Report, which investigated human rights violations during the 22-day conflict in Gaza, has led to significant diplomatic tension. An arrest warrant issued in the UK for Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni prompted her to cancel a visit to London. Consequently, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu recalled all Israeli ambassadors and consuls general to Jerusalem for emergency discussions.

goldstone report· united nations· israel· gaza· tzipi livni

1:08:40 Anyway, that was my last clip. That's all I had. There's nothing, you know, except for the... Well, there is something interesting that's happened, John. Crotch bomber. There is something very interesting, and I'm going to try and tie this all together for you. You'll recall the Goldstone Report by the United Nations. We talked about it on the show, and it didn't get a lot of play in mainstream media, go figure. The Goldstone report was the report about the 22-day war between Israel and Hamas in the Gaza Strip, which of course took place just about a year ago.

1:09:17 and the goldstone report summed up and an ordinate amount of tremendous human rights violations violations of by any of the geneva convention and any others uh... for excessive use of force targeting civilians using civilians as human shields uh... using phosphor bombs over civilian areas and of course ever since that twenty two day war uh... uh... the entire uh... area has had no water it's been blockaded to people are dying and besides the fact that they were treated severely it could be completely inhumanely uh... on both sides by the way uh... but of course if you look at what the idea of the israeli defense forces have and what the uh... what hamas has as it comes to hardware i think we can say there's no contest so the goldstone report

1:10:08 was denounced by two countries who are members of the United Nations. You can guess which ones. That would be Israel and the United States. However, in, God bless them, in Gitmo Nation East in the United Kingdom, a fine upstanding citizen took out an arrest warrant, which, because of the way the laws work, that can actually happen without government intervention. Of course, that will change in the next month. uh... to arrest the israeli foreign minister at cp levy uh... if she should set fit for a foot on british soil and so of course she canceled her uh... visit to the united kingdom because you know that that would mean a pretty much one-way ticket to the hate to the international criminal court now while this is taking place of course the work has not stopped in uh... with the settlements on the excess the is that the the the uh... the west bank i'm not sure where they are

1:11:11 and lost track but it probably is well benjamin netanyahu has now called every single ambassador consul general around the world every single one of israel's ambassadors and consul generals has called them back to jerusalem and they are to be there no later than december twenty eighth their recalling all of their diplomats because they are deathly afraid that this is going to propagate throughout the, let's call it civilized world and they'll start arresting these guys.

CHAPTER 23 / 25 Discussion

Gaza Blockade, Hamas Rocket Conflict Debate

The ongoing blockade of Gaza has resulted in severe shortages of water and food, leading to the use of supply tunnels. The debate centers on the proportionality of the Israeli military response to Hamas rocket fire, with references to the use of white phosphorus in civilian areas. The hosts disagree on the impact and origin of the rockets fired into Israel, highlighting the complexity of the regional conflict.

gaza· hamas· phosphorus bombs· blockade· idf

1:11:49 now this is bad news because even obama bless him president obama said hey you know you could you guys just stop that shit for a little while please could you please stop the you know if the kicking people out of their homes could you please stop the blockade can we like really work on a solution here at uh... a two-state solution which is what apparently everybody wants they did and that not netanyahu just refuses to do that and now he's recalled all every single one of his uh... uh... What would you call them? They're not politicians. They're... Consulates, ambassadors. Yes. So they've all been called back and of course this could mean that maybe they're ready for the final solution which is something that's being mumbled about here and there. What do you mean final solution? Get rid of all of them. Get rid of all what? All Palestinians. Wipe it out. Wipe it out. It's very possible. Oh, pfft.

1:12:51 Horse crap. Okay, well you tell me why else they're doing all this, John. Well, like you said, I'm looking for evidence that they're doing it. Of the recall? Oh, it's very simple. I'll tell you, there's a... The way they do it is, they say, oh, we have a big meeting. Come on back for the big meeting. That's never happened. I can find you a link. I'm looking at one link here on the conservative underground. Israel's ambassadors and councils of general serving throughout the world will discuss broad diplomatic issues. Yeah, that's a recall dude. That's what I, that's a recall. That's how I'd dissect it. Oh yeah, we've got a little conference on the 28th of December. Please, it's a recall. They've all been called back and this Goldstone report has gotten legs in most of the world and people are saying, this is not okay what happened down there.

1:13:52 Operation Cast Lead. Nice. Killed 1400 civilians, tens of thousands homeless, 400,000 without water because they sent a couple of firecrackers over the border. I wouldn't hardly call them firecrackers, they were rockets from a rocket launcher. Yeah, and they land in the ground. You can't use a term like that unless you were trying to propagandize the audience. Firecracker is a firecracker, a rocket is a rocket. Okay, but when I... okay you're right, a firecracker rocket. Because they don't do anything, they don't explode, they land and they stick in the ground. I've never seen... they punch a hole through a roof. You know, you got to look at it from both sides, John.

1:14:46 Yeah, well why are they sending these rockets over? Because they have no access to food, to water, they closed off all of their supply tunnels. People are starving! Like, hey, give me a break, take a rocket! I'm not trying to propagandize anybody. The area where they were cut off is not where the rockets were coming from. Well, I don't know about that. Where were the rockets coming from then? They were coming from the north, it was from the Assyrian area. Ah, you're right, let's just nuke the whole desert there. Let's get rid of everybody. Sick and tired of it. Anyway, be on the lookout for those guys all going back and not returning to their posts. I think we should keep our eye on that for sure. According to Al Jazeera, Hamas sent 12,000 rockets over, which is hardly one or two, and I would assume one of them blew up. 12,000 seems like a big number. It's funny though, I've never... And again, according to Al Jazeera, this information was left out of this Goldstone report.

1:15:53 It's a lopsided report obviously and I don't know why the Israelis are recalling it. That's not true, that's not true because I read the report. That's absolutely not true. They talk about 12,000 missiles? No, it only talks about, it doesn't talk about the lead up, it only talks about what happened during those 22 days. Well, I think you should sit down and read the report. I've read the report. You have? Yes. Dude, this is what I do. What does the report say that's so interesting? It talked... using children as human shields? Using phosphorus bombs over civilian areas? I know the phosphorus bombs are an issue, I agree with that, but I don't know about the... Oh, a minor issue!

1:16:31 No, it's a big thing. It's a big deal. They shouldn't be using phosphorus. And you see all the IDF wearing t-shirts, you know, with horrible slogans on them? All right. Never mind. I'm sorry. Clearly you don't care. No, I do care. I'm looking at this material now. And there's definitely something has to be done. There is some inequity, that's for sure. And I know that they blockade these guys and they have to put tunnels down to get food in. And they bomb the tunnels. So the tunnels are now closed. They're starving. They've got no food. They've got no water. You know, they continue to kick people out of their homes? Come on! This is, you know, it's funny because Miki actually had a good point. She said, you know, this threat has been going on for a hundred years, not a hundred years, but forty.

CHAPTER 24 / 25 Discussion

Lorcaserin Weight Loss Drug, Arena Pharmaceuticals

Arena Pharmaceuticals is developing Lorcaserin, a new oral drug for weight management currently in Phase 3 clinical trials known as BLOOM and BLOSSOM. The drug targets obesity through behavioral modification and chemical intervention. Skepticism is expressed regarding the long-term safety of such weight-loss pills, noting a history of similar drugs being found deadly after release.

lorcaserin· arena pharmaceuticals· obesity· weight management· bloom trial

1:17:19 No, more than that. It's been going on forever. That whole area is ridiculous. Well it's not forever because it's only been there since the real problems of... No, even before it was there, the area was conflicted. And what's going... is there anything of any value there besides holy spots? Is there any oil or diamonds or gold? No, there's no oil. Well maybe that's why no one really cares. It's just people. Ah, fuck them. It's just people. There's no actual minerals to be gotten. there. It's farmland. And then something pointed out by one of our producers, Seppur Aman, I think his name is, he sent us a YouTube video which I'll put in the show notes. It's from a news interview about a new pill, John, called Lorcaserin.

1:18:17 L-O-R-C-A-S-E-R-I-N. And it is finally here. It's the magic pill. The pill that will help you lose weight forever. Every time they do one of these pills, they turn out to be deadly. Well, yeah. Would you like the blue pill or would you like the red pill? No, usually... And it's funny because when you watch the interview, the guy, the CEO of the company, he's fat. No way. Yeah. It's like, dude, why don't you like take one of your own pills? Hold on, it's a... Let's see if the connection will hold up. Five minutes and 30 seconds into it. Let me just see. If this will pull up, it'll be kind of funny.

1:18:56 Let me go to five minutes and 30 seconds. So it's about here. Let's see if we can get this to work. Okay. Hold on. I'm reading the website from this company. It's Arena Farm. Look, casein hydrochloride is the most advanced drug candidates promising oral agent being evaluated in a phase three clinical trial program for weight management. Phase 3 consists of three trials, BLOOM, behavioral modification and Lorcaserin for overweight and obesity management. Get it? B-L-O-O-M. Blossom, I don't like when they... Oh, that's okay. I can't get the video. Behavioral modification and L-Lorcaserin second study for obesity management which is Blossom and BLOOM-DM which is behavioral modification. In other words, the behavioral modification seems to be the big deal. So what's good in this pill?

1:19:52 It'll help you keep the weight off. I'm just on the lookout for this stuff. You know, they should be working antibiotics these companies we're running out of them They're all crapping out because we've been misused over the years and we're gonna end up with people dropping dead from all kinds of simple bacteria There you go. All right, I think I think I've just about exhausted everything. I couldn't do all of my All of my normal show prep, of course Now you're in the snow. Yeah, there is a

CHAPTER 25 / 25 Discussion

Obama Administration Accomplishments, Year-End Show Preview

A list from Esquire magazine detailing President Obama's first-year accomplishments is reviewed, covering the bank bailout, the order to close Guantanamo Bay, and new car emission standards. The show concludes with a listener story about an Obama-themed gift and a preview of the upcoming New Year's Eve episode. Adam Curry signs off from his mobile studio in Yosemite.

barack obama· esquire magazine· guantanamo bay· bank bailout· yosemite

1:20:31 There is one good little link that is under the Gitmo Nation heading in the show notes and I do have some show notes from Esquire magazine. And the title is, What Do You Mean Obama Hasn't Done Anything? And they list everything that he has done. It's a great list. You've got to read this. If you look at any end of year list, this is the one to look at. Give us some sample. A week before he was sworn in, Obama jammed part two of the bank bailout down the throat of his own party, a $350 billion accomplishment.

1:21:10 Two days after he was sworn in, Obama banned the use of harsh interrogation and ordered the closing of Guantanamo. A day later, Obama reversed George W. Bush's funding cutoff to overseas family planning organizations, saving millions of lives with the stroke of a pen. Three days after that, he gave the green light to the California car emission standards that Bush had been blocking for six years. It just goes on and on and on and on and on. And then when you see, because of course now in hindsight, it's funny to see what that has resulted in. It's been a banner year for the Obama administration. It's just been great. One of our producers, Clark, sent this note.

1:21:50 I thought it'd be a nice Christmas Diddy. Last Christmas I bought Obama t-shirts for my in-laws who are Democrats but are also racists. Nice. We sent them back to Texas from DC and when they came to visit a few months later they brought this one back. Let me do the photo. They probably turned the other one into a hood. The next time it came back, just the logo came back cut out. Of course, being the fine son-in-law that I am, I knew we would have to come up with something and send it back. My brilliant wife then had the idea to turn it into a pillow and, here's the kicker, have my six-year-old daughter do the sewing. This way, the pillow is a gift from their granddaughter and her very first sewing project and they will have to keep it.

1:22:43 And it's the producers like that that make this show what it is. And we highly appreciate it. So the next show will be our year-end show. It'll be on the... Is it the 31st, John, that our next show will be? Yeah, it'll be on New Year's Eve morning. Yep. In the morning. Yep. Exactly. So I will be back. I'm sure the connection will actually be worse seeing as I'll be on AT&T in San Francisco Yep, so the connection will actually suppose to a poaching a signal from a cabin in yellow Yosemite Which worked out pretty well In the car the car studio the mobile studio pictures will be a part of the show notes and

1:23:29 And, uh, yeah, so we don't have to wish anyone any kind of Happy New Year, because we'll do that on the next show on Thursday. So, coming to you from five and a half thousand feet, just inside the Mariposa County border, Crackpot Command Cell in Yosemite National Park, Gitmo Nation West, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where the rain yesterday and nobody really cares much about the weather here I guess. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again just at the end of the year Thursday for early service right here on NOAgenda.