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00:00 Reading is good, kids. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday September 17th 2023 this is your award winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 1591 This Is No Agenda Making mascara run and broadcasting live from the heart of Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region number 6 In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where you know I thought Hostess was out of business and they weren't making Twinkies anymore I'm John C. Dvorak Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Uh, are you eating Twinkies now? No but I noticed that the company was just sold for like four billion dollars. And I thought they were out of business and they were...you know defunct years ago a couple two three years ago oh Twinkie's aren't gonna be made anymore hostess is out of business there goes those chocolate cupcakes It's funny you mention that it kind of remember something like that now not you say its Twinkies

00:59 No, I have no clips on Twinkies. Okay well that's great so what else have you been working on? You've been down in the financial pits i hear Yes sell buy Actually now that you bring that up wow wow let me get this going right now Not that they have a stock tip we don't do stock tips but I think there is some information that has come out in The Wall Street Journal today and also on the Wall Street Journal podcast that can show us what companies we should be short selling. Which, if I understand the mechanism when you sell short then if the company stock goes down... You make money correct?

01:45 You sell at a certain, it's just like reverse of what you normally do. You'd say you sell at 50 and buy at 25. Okay I think any company that does the following is a sure short sale Is feedback now too harsh? More companies are opting for a gentler term feed forward Wall Street Journal reporter Alexandra Bruel joins me what? First of all, what's the difference between feedback and feed forward the concept is not so different Feed forward instead of feed back. Oh The idea is that feed forward gives people less anxiety. It's a little bit gentler when people hear feedback, they think immediately what have I done wrong? What are the bad things my boss is going to tell me to fix one thing that we heard over and over was that during COVID you know employees weren't having regular review sessions everything was virtual after the pandemic when more people came back to work

02:45 companies sort of changed their approach to HR and management. They rethought the review process, and really decided that it was important to make the entire process more productive and effective. Now just to be clear are we talking about just a renaming of what we've come to know as feedback or do these efforts include... It gets better some companies are actually doing this already! Changing the actual tone in nature of feedback type conversations It depends on the company introducing the term and revamping its review process. Some argue that just replacing the word with feedforward or at Microsoft they use perspectives and other terms, there is a danger in

03:31 really just glossing over the idea that feedback, negative or positive is important. And rebranding doesn't really do much but there's also a number of companies that are rethinking the entire process and as part of that they want employees to feel more comfortable in the process and therefore they feel that rethinking the words they use replacing feedback with feed forward reviews, with connect sessions and also having sessions more often between managers and employees actually makes for a more productive and effective workplace. John I need to connect session! We need to connect session it's overdue yeah any company that employs these tactics is going to lose

04:18 That's obvious. Microsoft of course would be involved, the other ones that got sucked into this stack ranking bullcrap which really hurt the company for years Wow we haven't talked about that in a long time It's still around Yeah I know but was it just Microsoft? Was it also everybody did there was a big trend for awhile is Jack Welch's invention. Yeah, yeah stack ranking Oh, there's no winning We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere But we laugh a lot now everyone hug and share a secret Now it's interesting because this this podcast came out today I'd read the article The article is even worse It's filled with all kinds of terms

04:59 There was this kind of polarizing... What does the Wall Street Journal think it's doing? It supposed to be a newspaper. What do they think, their Harvard Business Review trying to establish certain norms in how businesses run? These are reporters that don't know how to run a business! Hello?! Well if you can't do, you teach There was a guy that kind of got viral on X, on the socials maybe two weeks ago and even some MAGA country people sent it to me saying that this guy has the wrong idea. I don't know if they understood what he was saying because what he's saying is very polarizing This is Tim Gurner

05:44 And this is a report from the hills. People decided they didn't really want to work so much anymore through COVID and that has had a massive issue on productivity. Traders have definitely pulled back on productivity, they have been paid a lot to do not too much in the last few years and we need to see that change. We need to see unemployment rise – unemployment has to jump 40-50% in my view. We need to see pain in the economy, we need to remind people that they work for the employer not the other way around

06:28 Wow, unemployment has to jump 40-50 percent. What an admission! Gerner also said we have to hurt the economy to end the arrogance among workers This is really interesting because I agree that the workers are out of control on this pandering such as we just heard is bad, it's just... It's biblically bad. You know? This is not how- you need to teach your children! Our show has been thematic about this point with the noodle boy Yes yes however some people thought that his solution was just a horrible idea and I'm like well let's all go broke that'll fix things isn't that exactly what the Federal Reserve said Poverty there ya go there's the solution everything Well I think they're well on their way

07:19 I mean poverty is on deck. To me it seems like the West, the United States and Europe with the immigration that's taking place is like we're going to become the slaves who make, I think manufacturing may come back to the US and then to Western Europe. Yeah backyard manufacturing. Yes! We'll be the slaves with China and then we'll have our own Uyghurs which will be the illegal immigrants this is happening in Chicago this finally finally people are waking up. At Sheldon Heights Church of Christ

07:55 An open dialogue on the migrant crisis hosted by alderman Ronnie Mosley was packed inside and out. First of all, they definitely chose this venue for a reason. They chose a small venue so that they could discredit the community from being able to show up. With fall and winter fast approaching, Mayor Brandon Johnson is looking to move migrants from police stations into what the city is calling winterized base camps. This is essentially like a band-aid to a gunshot wound. You are putting a band-aid on a huge problem at hand." One potential site, the former Jewell parking lot at 115th and Halstedt. I think that's a bad idea they want to push this out of sight and out of mind but it's coming with pushback many calling on the city's leaders to focus on the needs of taxpayers

08:50 We are the residents of this community and we demand that they do not put these people here. They're not even following the rules in the police station, what makes us think that they're gonna follow the rules here? Presidents tell us they are in need of grocery stores, mental health facilities and housing for homeless individuals. By the end of this year the migrant crisis will have cost taxpayers a quarter of a billion dollars I like calling it winter base camp What a genius branding You're welcome here at the winter base camp. Do you know how cold it gets in Chicago, migrants? It gets cold. Here play the New York immigration clips number one. Oh yeah this is beautiful. Tensions rose today in Manhattan over the immigration crisis lawmakers tried to address the issue but they were met with frustrated protesters and indeed Jason Perry was on the scene

09:49 Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, along with other lawmakers addressed the immigration crisis in New York City. But they were quickly disrupted by protesters shouting close the border Ocasio-Cortez continued speaking outside of Roosevelt Hotel in Manhattan, which has been used to process illegal immigrants. She called for more federal resources to help deal with the crisis. A man in the crowd voiced his frustration to the lawmakers. I'm bringing unity to the station when you're taking care of illegal immigrants over your own citizens. We spoke to some people in the area, to see what they think is the solution to the migrant crisis. Close the border! Yes! Close the border it's the only solution. A genius. Have them remain in Mexico like the policy was before

10:39 Why does my family member have to wait in Colombia when they filed a legal petition and these people are right here on 45th Street? And another man voiced his concern. It's not right, you have to come through the proper channels there is people that are waiting to get here and they're skipping the line and they don't care we don't know who these people are They're not vetted Many of my ex-girlfriends were from other countries You know what I mean so this is not about hate Oh... it's not about hate I had sex with them. It's not about hate. My many ex-girlfriends! Many, many, many...I think we should call them neo-Uyghurs that should probably be the new term because that's all they're gonna be with AOC who I might want to remind everybody she auditioned for this role she auditioned for this role yeah we always forget that

11:29 An actress, and not a great one. She auditioned and has been MK altered into repeating talking points And she even- I don't know if you have it Talked about her path to citizenship For these well, I have one more clip in the series but the problem is that they would they had her talking and it was so noisy with them over with people yelling at her. Did you try? I just bet in that last clip by cut out two chunks of it because of that as to my issue that they can't she can't get a word in policy part how's the Adobe product did that work Did you try the- No, no it was beyond Adobe. This was just like a cacophony of that so it was a mess

12:11 And this man explained that it wasn't fair to the low-income families living in New York City. They have congestion pricing in the city, where you're going to have to pay $20 to drive into Manhattan? How are the low income families supposed to survive? How are we supposed to raise our kids while everyone gets everything for free there's not two systems of justice in this country We also heard from an immigrant who recently arrived in New York City. We never imagined none of the immigrants that were going to be received like this Nonetheless, I am grateful. Protesters and politicians both made their voices heard today this is clearly an issue that will continue to demand national attention Finally at O'Hare there's 400 neo-Uyghurs in the airport By the way kudos to Abbott Yeah

13:03 I mean it took a long time he's been shipping them out for what six months to year quite awhile yeah quite awhile. It's finally caught up to everybody okay? Yeah but it's so sad that had to come to this, these are people they're human beings You know, it's like what is... how stupid is this? Well this is going on the latest thing going on in Europe. Did you see this sit down with van der Luyen and Maloney sitting next to each other? And the Dutch Prime Minister decommissioned Mark Rutte! What does that guy do in there?! Yes I saw it Those two women do not get along

13:49 I'm not so...I mean, I was talking to Willow and my niece and my nephew. And they're like, you know, Maloney is she's just another one of the elite. She's not, there's nothing that she's going to do. She talked a big game when she was coming in or when she wanted to get in. It's all...and also they say that the migrant issue in Italy at least isn't all that bad even though the Lampedusa has made it look really really horrible They say that it's not really being felt, but you know they're there and they're in Fiorenza You know this four different Italy so then maybe they just don't minimum. They got yeah minimum different different vibe there But yeah, yeah I mean how much? I mean the Netherlands is People are sick of it. This is interesting though that this is a

14:44 As we've noticed with the COVID and some other incidents, these are universal. These are worldwide phenomena which means it's coordinated by someone. And I don't know if you saw this but Zelensky, who you know is the actor from Ukraine He came out and he said, you know I see that not everybody is with us. And we have a lot of Ukrainians now all over Europe and here it is Western governments could face defeats at the ballot box because the Ukrainian refugees they're going to vote and they're gonna go in They are gonna vote you out if our partners do not help us It means they want Russia to win

15:32 And this is how crazy this has become. Where they're hinting of a pullout that we're gonna give up on the on the Ukrainians Yeah, good. Can you you want to give us a synopsis other than their hinting at a pull-out? What was no? That's basically this an opsis foreign affairs For foreign affairs is the magazine produced by the Council on Foreign Relations Yes And so they it's like sometimes it signaling You don't know what what messaging of some sort and they say oh

16:15 In the article, Kiev should be prepared for a sudden pullback by the West in support because they make the point that people are getting sick of this. And I think and they're getting sick as Zelensky well What's going on in London right now speaks a whole different story about what is happening in Ukraine because it is a capital B bonanza. This year, its bigger than ever Nearly 3000 companies have turned up to London's Excel Centre Over 100 countries have sent delegations And if you're looking to expand and modernize your country's armed forces this is the place to be

16:59 The war in Ukraine exerts a strong influence. The country has its own stand, but the conflict is also shaping the priorities of the global arms industry. Much in evidence are drones – of all sizes and capabilities – and given their success on the battlefield systems to defeat them are now a priority for everyone In our market we can see everyday on the battlefield that drones are used every day in huge quantities. That is a threat we are addressing with our products We have developed the top-notch counter drone system

17:38 to secure Ukrainian forces as well as Polish and NATO forces. The war has also underlined the importance of things some thought were no longer needed, tanks long-range artillery and shells Ukraine uses 7000 a day global inventories are running low so production is ramping up The war in Ukraine is also changing government spending priorities. Defence budgets are going up everywhere and armed forces are being reconfigured to meet new challenges. That means billions of dollars worth of defence contracts are up for grabs. Woohoo! Billions are up for grabs!

18:24 And they are selling now literal directed energy weapons to bring down these drones. Zap them out of the sky! And we knew this is what Eric Schmidt was talking about, remember he was on with Zakaria? It's like oh drones, drones that's the future it's these little drones little drones and there it is a whole conference 300 different country exhibitors All selling drones and anti-drones. And it's just like everyone is like, oh this is cool, this is great! Yeah arms huh? Cool Was it not Schmedley Butler who said war was a racket? Yeah it was General Schmedley Butler. It is an enormous racket What a scam

19:13 And every... no one has. I guess everyone's just all pacified, sitting at home. We don't notice the writer strike or the actor strike. There's plenty of good stuff on Netflix! There's plenty of stuff to watch! Has anyone complained? That the late-night shows are off the air has anyone missed this one at all to some incredible degree like wow The guys were complaining that guys who worked there Wow, yeah And did you see that they're trying to get rid of Kimmel like oh well some kind of report came out. He's drunk Hello We had boots no no no that's Fallon a Fallon I'm sorry yep Sorry we had boots on the ground reporting that when he went in now. He's hammered every day. He's hammered and

19:58 Yeah, yeah. The real reason you want to get rid of him because he wasn't toeing the line with anti-Trump jokes. Yeah, true. Speaking of... He was pretty down. John tried to maintain a middle ground with his political humor while the other two guys are just slamming and clack. Kimmel if I remember when Trump was in office was literally crying on the stage about how bad Trump was. Remember that? Yes! Oh yeah, oh yeah. He's in tears. This is a comedy show by the way. Yeah. Trump's bad he's hurting children he's got to go we shouldn't have our president like this well it it ridiculous let's recall comedy show Saturday Night Live opening with Ukrainian national anthem

20:46 No, the real humor is on TikTok people. That's where it's funny that's what people are watching like... Tina sat down on the couch and said let's watch some reels she doesn't we don't have TikTok but just let's watch some reels. What do you mean you don't have Tiktok? It's online is on the web Yes but I don't have it on my phone she doesn't have an honor phone I don't either and I've watched all the time I'm sorry to hear that You know what's funny, by the way I just should mention this. Just for so people should know, I use a VPN most of the time on my machine it's just safer and I use VPNs out of South American countries because there is couple that are just so fast its like you wouldn't even know your on a VPN So when I'm on an Argentinian VPN and I just happen to hit TikTok not as sign-on but now looks at TikTok like I am in Argentina

21:44 They have the same dipshit girls in Spanish doing those stupid dances they do. Well, yeah that's what TikTok is! It's like why are you... What? Why are you doing this?! You're making it look like an idiot Do you understand the mechanisms of TikTok TikTok is the music industry. It is literally the music industry, there's so much money to be made if you are a successful TikTok dancer or whatever you've created on Tiktok You can make real money! Probably no surprise. Turning now to TikTok and the European regulators slapping the social media app with a nearly $370 million fine, accusing the Chinese-owned platform of failing to protect children's privacy. Alexis Christophers joins us now with that. Good morning, Alexis! Oh yes, Alexis come on! Good morning, Geo. That investigation by Ireland's Data Protection Commission finds this signup process for teens made their TikTok accounts public by default

22:47 allowing anyone to view and comment on their videos. It also allowed adults to turn on direct messaging for teens without their consent." Isn't that what the teens want? Yes, it's softcore porn! It's borderline cruelty against animals in most cases funny but cruelty against animals And yes that is what they want! Yes it is where teens Search on TikTok, no one goes to Google anymore. Ha! Fine them! Direct messaging for teens without their consent in a statement TikTok saying we respectfully disagree with the decision particularly the level of the fine imposed it is the latest in a global crackdown on Tiktok In the US some public universities as well as many state and federal agencies have banned the app on their devices out of concern It would give China access to sensitive user data

23:40 and Montana passed a law that bans the app's use in the state altogether. And it's not just TikTok, Instagram WhatsApp and the owner Meta among the tech giants hit with big fines by the Irish regulator. So you know the EU playing a big game oh yeah we understand how this works is China is going to get all Tik Tok bad bad but listen how the Queen of the European Union, you know her as Queen Ursula. How much she understands the topic of AI? I mean artificial intelligence this is the future and she really that she is accepting artificial intelligence into our life. I believe in the power of artificial intelligence just look at the winner of last year's Future Unicorn Award Korti from Denmark

24:31 They are using AI and voice recognition to help doctors predict heart attacks. It's simply amazing! And indeed the possibilities of AI are immense, I don't have to tell you. AI can turn on wind turbines and produce more energy as the weather changes. Wow! AI could detect a weather change and turn on wind turbines? AI can detect a cyber attack faster than any human being. Yeah, what about MGM? And as a medical doctor I know that AI can also for example detect cancer in mammographies way earlier and more reliably than any human being So the EU...I didn't know she was a medical doctor actually or at least not one that's qualified to speak about mammography

25:19 So the EU is doing the same thing here in the US and they're lining everybody up and they getting everybody together, and they're setting it all up because they want to control it. They want to make AI your new god, and AI is right, and AI smart, and AI does everything. And I could not resist C-SPAN got Elon Musk for a one minute statement which which is much better audio than anything we've had so far outside of the tech, the private tech meeting where they were divvying up something. I think it's very telling what he's saying here. I think it was a very civilized discussion actually among some of the smartest people in the world Okay let's stop right there Can we stop saying that these are some of the smartest people in the world? They're not the smartest people in the world

26:08 They run profitable companies. They're businessmen Yeah, that does that make them the smartest people know generally speaking when you were in you when you were in college and they are olden days The business guys with the dummies see if the dummies would go into business smart guys are theoretical physicists none of these guys are that so he says it was very civilized and Not sure why he's saying it civilized maybe that can only be because there was money to be made and these are some of the smartest people in the world which He, of course conveniently includes himself in this group among Some of the smartest people in the world so I thought

26:51 Senator Schumer did a great service to humanity here. He's sucking up to Schumer for some reason. This meeting is going to go down in history as very, very important.

27:34 in the room to see if they were in favor of AI regulation and I believe almost everyone did. Now this is interesting because you keep hearing that Schumer asked, Is everyone in favor of AI regulation? And you keep hearing almost everyone did who didn't who didn't Who was not for this I'd like to run through trying to get in it. We know that regulation is to keep people out and fix prices. Yeah, that's a good sign. I think the probability of there being some sort of regulatory agency that stands on its own similar to the FAA or FCC is likely at some point.

28:13 The reason that I've been such an advocate for AI safety in advance of sort of anything terrible happening is that I think the consequences of AI going wrong are severe. So we have to be proactive rather than reactive So let's talk about the cases of AI being severe. You don't need AI for it to be severe, and I only just heard about this case in Australia. It is very similar to what happened with the Dutch child care benefits scandal which the cabinet resigned over because they essentially ran an algo on taxes and returns

28:58 social payments and they went to tens of thousands of parents and said, now you receive too many child benefits. You owe us 50 thousand euros." And this made people lose their jobs, their homes some people committed suicide This seems to be some kind of trend amongst the world Australia had something very similar known as robo-debt which happened four years ago And it's just now coming to light. It was wrong, it was illegal, it should never have happened and it should never happen again

29:37 Under the former Liberal Government, this scheme unlawfully raised $1.76 billion in alleged debts against some 526,000 Australians. This tragedy caused stress, anxiety and financial destitution and sadly had a very real human toll For more than four years, Liberal Ministers dismissed or ignored the significant concerns that were raised over and over again.

30:13 in the Parliament, but also by victims and public servants, community organisations and legal experts. The Royal Commission has found that the Liberal Party's Robo-Debt Scheme was a crude and cruel mechanism – neither fair nor legal and it made many people feel like criminals. In essence, people were traumatized on the off chance they might owe money It was a costly failure of public administration in both human and economic terms So now that I see this happening and i'm sure there will be other countries that had similar things take place could this be...a setup? to bringing in the smartest people in the world to have this done right

31:07 You know what I mean? I don't think so. No, they're not gonna do that well governments are deploying this This is what the IRS in the United States is deploying They've they've announced it we're gonna throw a robo no AI yeah But that's just that's not gonna be for this What's the difference and then I gotta do it anyway good day. I doesn't work there up Yes, they are of course. They're gonna do it In fact, I have a boots on the ground report about this. One of our producers had this happen to them and they may not have it handy but the crux of it is that they have a company

31:55 But I think that brings in $50,000 a year and the IRS hit them up for five hundred thousand dollars in unpaid taxes which was run automatically and they can't even get anyone to pick up the phone? And listen to him. Well that doesn't make a lot of sense... Here it is here it is I just wanted to chime in and confirm your contention that the tax debt over $250,000 scam is just trying to squeeze small business. To make it short my wife and i have a very small business that processes transactions online we make around 50k a year in taxable income on this business The IRS had an automated system that decided we owed them five hundred thousand

32:38 plus dollars for tax year 2021. They decided this in 2023 it was clearly some type of algorithm they applied to us and it's impossible to even speak to a human about this and try to get it resolved explaining that we literally make one-tenth the amount each year that they claim we owe yeah, it doesn't make sense but...it's happening! Well it doesn't make sense because you can get ahold of the IRS No. I've never heard it you can't get a hold of the IRS, you go to their OMS buzzman program there's a million ways are getting hold the IRS we just had a situation with the IRS ourselves and Mimi had no trouble getting ahold of an IRS person though to work on this well maybe they should reach out to me Mimi has powers

33:26 Yeah, it's called dialing a phone. I'm just telling you what they're saying and I understand what they're saying I'm just saying that doesn't make sense because I've never had trouble getting hold the IRS Maybe maybe you have credentials that we're all unaware of no You call a number there's phone numbers you can call yes. I know John. I know I'm just telling you They may have been able to get a hold of them, but maybe they couldn't help them. I mean during the pandemic you certainly couldn't get ahold of anyone. Well that's different too yeah... But this seems very resolvable. I sure hope so! They seem to be frustrated by the process By the way just as an aside speaking of the smartest people in the world Kara Swisher without a doubt one of the smartest people in the world One of our producers asked her question on TikTok and she answered

34:22 On TikTok. On TikTok, you have the answer? No I'm sorry on X. Hey Cara! I'm a big fan of Pivot My hate listen I've heard John C. Dvorak referred to you as his protege many times He seems to be very proud of this fact how big of an impact did Dvorak have on your career? You read it this no, I didn't do it Matt FLS did it is one of our producers I didn't do this Would you like to hear her answer because she answered I'm sure she's... wait, let me guess. Dvorak who? No no no! She acknowledges you with um not really but he had a good show back in the day That sounds right. I'm a protege of Walt Mossberg Oh okay there you go that makes sense

35:23 I just thought it was great that she answered. Because she's probably irked that we're always busting her chops. I don't think she knows that we even do a show. Oh, she does. She does. She does. No there is no chance! She does...I've even once sent a slash on X to Prof G and said, oh its my favorite hate listen and he replied thanks? They know. They know, come on! They're in the business of tech podcasts how could they not be listening to The No Agenda Show? We don't do tech Yeah we do all kinds of tech...we know everything about tech What did we just do about AI that's tech I guess it is We know more about tech than those jamokes Well let's decide the point All they know is how to moan and groan about Elon Musk How horrible he is

36:21 Oh, I don't know. Like, I still like that. I'd like people in the media that hate Musk to hit on Musk like there's no tomorrow. I'd like an explanation when we know the explanation and we don't he took away their tool? The tool of Twitter? Yes. The tool of Twitter which they use. They started hating on Musk before he took over Twitter. That just closed a deal once he Once he flipped, you know this is I get my thesis is gonna stick just stick to this the Democratic Party is a cult Wow wow everybody stop what you're doing once you quit the party they go after ya

37:09 like a cult does. Oh, that's a reasonable idea and reason in people in the Republican Party they quit the Republican Party I mean I have and nobody cares oh yeah okay whatever what is he now libertarian? Yeah well that's what he says but they're Democrats you'd quit the Democratic Party if your involved especially if you have a lot of money like Trump did you quit the party and start do anything else and there all over ya Well, did you see what happened to Jan Wenner? Did you see? Yeah I did. I saw it happen to Jan Wenner. Do you see what happened too now we're bringing this up... What's his name the British guy? Russell Brand got killed. First let me explain what happened. Not literally but figuratively. Let's start with Jan Wenner

38:03 John Wenner who started Rolling Stone magazine became a super, super uber lefty I would say. Yeah and just an example of that is he pretty much has the veto power over the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. He had! And will not allow a number of people to be in it even though they should have been in it years ago. Yes, well he has been ousted from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame board because he wrote a book And he did an interview with the New York Times and in it, he's...and the question was asked well why didn't you have more women in your book? Why don't you have more people of color or a woman. A woman! Why'd you have a woman in the book or a black musician? And he said uh...you know they're just they... They're dumb! It was worse. He said um

39:06 In the Times interview with Wenner that published on Friday, he said that black and also female musicians quote didn't articulate at the level of the white male musicians in his tome. It's not that they're not creative geniuses it's just that they're inarticulate Although, go have a deep conversation with Grace Slick or Janice Joplin. Please be my guest! You know Joni Mitchell was not a philosopher of rock and roll she didn't in my mind meet that test Not by her work not by other interviews she did The people I interviewed were the kind of philosophers of rock Of black artists? Well you know Stevie Wonder genius right? Suppose we use a word as broad as masters the fault is using that word Maybe Marvin Gaye Curtis Mayfield I mean they just didn't articulate at that level

39:49 But Pete Townsend, oh hold on. What a canard! And then he even said you know I guess that I'm old-fashioned and should have probably put one woman in one black person in there but um you know I don't care well this is the classic leftist okay they're hypocrites yeah So the Russell Brand thing is interesting. Anyway, but to finish up the Winter thing he's been excoriated for this Well the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame sent a statement Jan Venner has been removed from the board of directors of The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation And they have no further comment

40:32 And then Wanner of course issued a statement, in my interview with the New York Times I made comments that dismissed the contributions genius and impact of black and women artists. I apologize wholeheartedly for those remarks The Masters is a collection of interviews i've done over the years that seem to me best represent an idea of rock n' roll's impact on the world they were not meant to represent the whole of music and its diverse and important origins, but reflect the high points of my career. And interviews I felt illustrated the breadth an experience in that career." Me me me me me! Now he's done, he's done! That is great He's done So the brand thing is interesting...I started getting emails like hey Channel 4 just pre-empted it's normal line up so this was not a planned show

41:22 This was they preempted whatever is normally running and ran this 90-minute program which accuses, and I think it's because it leaked out and he got some emails. And the day before he did a YouTube and he said hey hey hey this is not right! I'm being railroaded because I have a different message and...and I have like a minute Which really shows you what kind of a hit job this was. Nobody can talk about the validity of it, but the hit job is A beautiful piece they edited and they use this as the trailer This is inappropriate probably for young ears But here's a piece from Channel 4's Russell brand expose I phoned and

42:12 Somebody that's what it was regarding and I said, well it's regarding Russell Brand being a sex offender He's grabbing at my My underwear pulling it to the side. I'm telling him to get off me and he won't get off Like holding me up against the wall pushing himself in me. I love the music He grabbed me and got me on the bed I was fully closed, and he was naked at this point And he held me down, and he was just aggressively trying to you know me. I Was like oh my god? She raped me He forced his penis down my throat

43:00 Couldn't breathe. I was just choking me. I was crying and he said oh, I only want to see you mascara run anyway Then blood jobs where the scar runs a little bit Good So they take a story where the woman says this is exactly what he did and said I just want to make your mascara run, and they cut to a comedic conference. A stand-up of him where he's using this as a joke And he says those blowjobs that make your mascara run...and they add a lot of echo to it and a lot of scary effects

43:40 That to me tells me this is a hit job. But wow, a serious one and I have lots of questions like has he been removed from YouTube yet? More importantly are have charges been filed we know that certainly this apparently happened in Los Angeles that you can make millions of dollars just like the case against Trump with it with a 20 30 40 year old accusation So what is this? What really is the result of this, what is the point and there's two sides. One is this is to... This is that mainstream media hates what he's saying and big pharma hates what he's saying And the other side is He's using it up his profile There are all kinds of sides to this I think so, I don't think he's using it to up his profile It's a... Like Andrew Tate type of thing

44:41 Oh, that's not gonna happen. But him... I've always wondered why he still on YouTube? That is questionable to say the least. They make no sense! No it won't be on for long. I think they're out to get rid of him He said piece a pain in the ass Yeah Yeah, he's definitely a pain in the ass. But it also is like dude you could see this coming down Broadway! You're building an audience on YouTube what are you thinking? Oh no I'm now on Rumble okay. Bitch shoots coming next No he's Rumble. I think Rumble pays him and we'll see how strong Rumble is with these horrible allegations

45:26 It's a... now, and you know of course believe all women but man this is severe. And it's so stylized it's not a news report it's a 90-minute documentary with music and effects and echoes I mean really meant to influence people thinking. I don't even know if it..I haven't watched the whole thing I haven't watched the whole thing I will. I didn't even know if they show two sides or just all a hit job The funny thing is people are posting audio. This is AI! Oh my god, really people?

46:02 It's not that hard to find someone who will just say this stuff. I know there is one clip going around of the one woman where she got cut in and out, but the raw version of her sounds very AI-ish but what's the point? You can find an actress to do it if you don't need AI for that. Hey tell me this, hey you're an expert in audio isn't this AI? No! Yeah I got that note too. Adam you are the expert Is this AI? No, it's not that hard to get actresses to do this. They even said they used four actresses for this piece So somebody sent me there's a website called AI or not dot-com And ai are not calm takes a look at images and tells you whether they're AI or not Well we need to run out of the art generator

46:53 Well, I did and everything was AI. So I took some regular pictures and I swear this is a fact! I took a picture, I took a couple of screenshots of Ari Melber or whatever his name is. Ari Morrow? Ari on MSNBC Yeah that guy and so I had to pick up a screenshot some when I slipped one into the AI generator it says this isn't that this is a real picture and then it said not safe for work anyway Yeah. So he's not safe for work? No, no, no. Hmm

47:38 I have a bunch of clips about the impeachment. I want to get out of the way. Oh, goodness! We didn't talk about it last show No, of course not there's reasons for that It's can you is it exciting? I think it's interesting because they brought this from NTD So they're anti-biden I'm sure When we say the impeachment were talking about impeaching President Biden because he was involved in corruption through his son We don't know But it's a lot of just hanky-panky is what I would describe it. And it's at least as bad as when Spiro Agnew was in the vice presidency, and he was collecting money in his office and they had to rouse them and kicked him out of the office. Joe Biden was doing the same stuff when he was vice president and probably still things going on

48:29 But this, the only reason I got these clips because this is a guy they brought in just to outline the evidence. Because the Democrats say there's no evidence! And so we have these clips of this guy they brought on to talk about the evidence. So people out there can say, yeah, there's evidence whether they're going to do anything or not and they're not gonna get an impeachment accomplished because of the Senate and the Democrats are all for it but let's go with impeachment evidence in TD. Sorry. At the time, Shokin was reportedly investigating the energy company Burisma where Hunter Biden was a board member. To go over the timeline we spoke with an investigative journalist Jeff Carlson thank you so much for joining us and since this impeachment inquiry has been launched several news outlets and pundits have been saying this is without evidence others say there's a lot of evidence what evidence is there? You know one of the big things that Democrats have been talking about is

49:46 What they've really done is they sort of capitulated. At first it was, you know Joe Biden didn't talk to Hunter Biden then it was Joe Biden didn't talk to his business partners then it was okay he talked to his business partners but he didn't actually talk business so we keep breaking down these doors now the new narrative is you can't trace the money directly going back to Joe Biden Well, you pretty much can and that's what this is all about. You know it's not as if we're going to have a check that's going to be written directly out to Joe Biden. We know that there was this use of 20 different plus shell holding companies, shell companies through which cash was passing through

50:24 We know that if you look at the Ukraine situation, you had this new prosecutor that was brought in and despite what people say he was absolutely investigating Burisma. There was always this narrative that the IMF and EU wanted Shokin gone. That's utterly false! We spent forever researching this and trying to find any evidence of either those entities wanting Shokin out prior to Joe Biden announcing that he was going after Shokin And it doesn't exist So that's, this is where it's going to really be about. It's about this Shoken guy and Biden bragging about... Remember when he was in front of the Council on Foreign Relations? I think it was. Yes. No no no! It was like the Aspen Institute or something. I thought it was on the CFR. Well, it was in public

51:16 He's bragging about how he got rid of this guy by rolling out a billion. You're right, it was the CFR. I have the clip. It was CFR We might as well play it since you're doing this expose. Yeah Um, I remember going over convincing our team or others to convince that we should be providing for loan guarantees and I went over I guess the 12th, 13th time to Kiev. And and I was going supposed to announce that there is another billion dollar loan guarantee and I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor and they didn't so they said they had it they were walking out to press conference said no I said we're not gonna give you two billion dollars

52:00 They said, you have no authority. You're not the president. The president said I should call him. I'm telling you're not getting a billion dollars. I said it's not getting a billion. I will be leaving here and I think it was what six hours? I look at him leaving in six hours if the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting money. Oh son of a bitch got fired and they put in place someone who was solid and friendly to me my family and others That clip of course has been going around for I don't know if you have a date on it, but it's what? I do. Three years at least? 2019 October 2019 Four years and of course everyone's been pointing to that clip as worst than what Trump did with his phone call but okay It's been taking forever to get anywhere and here we go to Clip 2

52:50 As a matter of fact, quite the opposite. The State Department had said that Shokin had made enough progress that they were willing to free up the $1 billion in taxpayer guarantees. Some people say their loans really weren't, they were taxpayer guarantees but nevertheless from Ukraine's perspective it freed up access to one billion dollars Joe Biden actually altered US official policy by suddenly deciding to withhold these funds to Ukraine because he was trying to place pressure on Poroshenko, the president of Ukraine, to remove Shokin. And it even gets a little bit worse from there, because once Shokin was finally removed they needed to make sure that they had the correct prosecutor in place that would close all the Burisma investigations. That took a couple months and there was quite literally a phone call with Poroshenko the day after the new prosecutor was put in place, a guy named Yuri Litsenko

53:47 The day after he was put in place, Biden had a phone call with Poroshenko and it was only then on that phone call that he agreed to finally release these funds which were supposed to have been released in December of the prior year. December 2014 those funds didn't get officially released until I believe its May 16th of 2016, and they were tied to putting in the new prosecutor. And that new prosecutor was the one who closed the investigation into Burisma." Yeah! Yep yep... That's how I remember it. Well it worked out well. Don't we even have that call? Did Biden called that guy? I think there was a call somewhere Noooo we don't. Okay. Well I mean....I don't think so Let's go to clip 3

54:35 And Jeff, I wanna zoom in on that. So Democrats are now pushing back on this impeachment inquiry saying that while Hunter Biden may have acted unethically Joe Biden did not he did not change any US policy you argue otherwise so what policy did Joe Biden change? Just the withholding of those loans was an official change in our foreign policy. And it appears that it was being done, In order to close down an investigation into an entity at which his son was on the board of directors But more importantly than that they appeared have been further financially entwined In terms you know the news we've been getting out regarding these sequences Of two separate five million dollar bribes One to Joe Biden and one to Hunter Biden All tied into get this investigation removed

55:20 And it's important to note that Burisma is not above making bribes. The owner of Burisma managed to close a UK investigation before Hunter actually came on board by doing exactly that, he paid the former prosecutor, uh...he paid the former prosecutors office seven million dollar bribe to close an earlier investigation you know ultimately this is part of another argument that we've been making is that it's impossible that Obama wasn't aware of this you don't suddenly stop unilaterally a major loan going through to Ukraine that had been in the works and then hold that loan up until the changes you wanted to be made were actually effectuated. So ultimately Obama had to be aware, at least after what his vice president was doing. Well Biden said it! Biden said it right there on that clip he don't believe it called the President He'll back me up so of course he knew

56:12 Yeah, that hasn't really been brought out much. It was assumed in that clip that you're talking about that that was a bluff Oh really? I believe it wholeheartedly! Joe Biden... the enemy always overplays his hand this is exactly what he did hey pride Pride That's what he had pride in what he did It's a red cake clip 4 And zooming out a bit, this is just an impeachment inquiry. Not yet articles of impeachment to be voted on but the White House has already shot back it's actually giving statement to major news organizations on how to report on this saying to scrutinize what the house Republicans are saying What does it mean for our country when major news organizations

57:00 are getting editorial guidance from the White House instead of reporting on it from a distance. You know, I obviously saw that and was a little flabbergasted we've known. And I guess you in some ways could almost argue hey good at least it's out in the open because for years the exact same thing has been going on behind the scenes You know, how many times do you see one media organization? It usually comes downstream from the New York Times and Washington Post. But everybody picks up the narrative really pretty much at exactly the same moment. We know that the White House was directing all of the efforts at suppressing information on social media sites, Google etc., behind-the-scenes. Same thing with COVID.

57:40 Now they just seem to have given up any pretense that are literally putting that directive out there. This is why I think they hate Elon Musk because everybody's complicit, they're all corrupt and specifically around Ukraine there were so many people involved in that corruption And we know the news media is actually, they are corrupt. They're in bed with the intelligence agencies. They're all at the same parties and that's why they hate Musk because he let some stuff out and people feel threatened This last clip which is the real reason to play these clips Oh okay I think

58:23 is there's something suspicious about the fact that this memo went out in the first place. This was, these memos... The memo that went out to tell them news media how to react to these stories which the guy himself said well this has always been a known kind of secret now it's out in the open because they don't care! They're just blatant now as saying here we run the media here's how you should cover these stories I don't believe that. I think this memo was purposely pushed out there by one of the big news companies, and i'm suspecting The Washington Post because they're the ones that are going after Biden the most as if it was just pushed into the mainstream. I think this was a kind of a leak

59:11 opposed to a blatant promotion. There is something very suspicious about this and I think it's to accomplish two things, one what was maybe mentioned in the Council on Foreign Relations publication foreign affairs about getting out of Ukraine and the whole thing is so corrupt why are we there? And the second one is that part of the program by a lot of people not all of them but about half the Democrat Party to get rid of Biden. How about this Everyone understands that If Trump gets into office, they all hang. I think or whether it's true or not...I don't know but i think that's the general thing. They didn't hang last time but yes exactly But you know it makes people worried and everybody oversteps somehow so maybe this is the rats leaving the ship saying well at least we can shove all of this blame with our powerful media empires We can push all of this onto one guy one family let him bleed for it The old coot

1:00:15 So they're just protected, it obviously has nothing to do with democracy. It's only about protecting their own asses because of reputation and criminality Well, something's up. And I think that discussion of that note coming out from the White House telling people how to react to these impeachment things is... And Obama has to be protected at all costs because he is the key. Well, Obama got nailed in this little... They keep mentioning him. I think Obama is targeted too but I don't know what they're going to accomplish with that but here are the last of these clips series.

1:01:10 You know, the other day we saw something that was unheard of. We saw CNN running a clip where they were putting up the number of times that Joe Biden had lied. We have David Ignatius writing in The Washington Post that Joe Biden shouldn't run again in 2024 So we're getting, you know our theory has long been that Joe Biden is not ultimately going to be the nominee for 2024. That it's going to be somebody else likely Gavin Newsom and we're now seeing those cracks start to form so I think it's worthwhile noting for the audience that all this perceived protection around Joe Biden is less about protecting Joe Biden but more about protecting

1:01:50 sort of the establishment and the way the establishment does business. And I, you know, I think at this point they're beginning to give up on Joe a little bit as these facts mount, as we started off discussing it in the beginning of this episode." He's very measured in what he says. I mean...I agree yes no one wants anyone to see how the sausage is made and I'm now thinking This has to do with Mitt Romney's announcement that he's not running anymore I'm not running. We need younger people to come in by the way Mitt Romney looks 60 He's 74 75 the guy looks great is in great health he 76 actually

1:02:28 Did I say that 76 he said look six at 74 75. Okay, so he's 76 He looks every six. He does the he looks good. It looks good. He's you know, he started paying capital. He's made bank I think he's getting out because he knows that dominoes are about to fall and back in 2014 August 7th of this very podcast According to the Durham Report, the best podcast in the universe. Episode 641 we were discussing how business is done certainly in the world but by the United States politicians, the elites. I think it was in regard to Ebola in Africa and you know like hey we're gonna come in we're going take over your country here's some Ebola for you but then something else popped up in this conversation which I thought was worth playing let's go back in time to August 7th 2014 so that we shall see if they can really pull it off because I don't think these guys just sitting back and go okay

1:03:29 Let's forget Ebola for a moment. How much money are you going to give me? What am I getting under the table?" We have limits on that stuff, the carries of the world saying screw you man my kid is gonna get the money Joe Bidens kids gonna get the company in Ukraine that he is running They have limits they won't... we'll just bring our extractive unit known as The Pentagon and Department Of Defense and will kill you No! That's why we like to give people generous loans So, not mentioned in that lineup was Mitt Romney's kid. They were all involved in Ukraine! All of them! And Pelosi's kid... they're all involved in the Ukraine scandal because it was such a great country to do that too

1:04:15 Yeah, and I think this is why let's see what kid what moves carry makes you know he's all my dad in Africa. I'm doing climate change But he's not immune though They'll throw him for the wolves too they will do you think yeah? I forgot about two Romney kids mm-hmm Romney Romney Kid the Kerry kid You're right. You know he could run two more times He looks so easily and loves the power he loves it So I'm not buying this or I'm not gonna run. That's a good catch, I think so. I think you're right. Just some pushback clips these are older but this is the White House...I want to play these this one and then see if the other two follow. White House pushed back on impeachment

1:04:59 Welcome back. The White House is asking the media to be critical of the impeachment inquiry against President Biden, and sent a letter urging them to quote ramp up scrutiny. The letter from White House spokesperson Ian Sam says that there is no evidence against Biden and that the impeachment inquiry is without merit. The letter has raised concern as it seems to urge news outlets to follow an editorial directive from the White House. The letter was sent out today, to top executives at big news outlets like the New York Times, Fox, CNN and the Associated Press. This comes after House Speaker Kevin McCarthy announced the impeachment inquiry yesterday.

1:05:40 By having Fox take a fall to watch that just you can watch it happen. Hey, we can get Fox We can get Fox the full fold too. Don't you think? It could happen Yeah, you don't need these other ones there's more of the same it's just that this White House directive is Very interesting well The sure what the ramifications will be long term but it's not it's not a positive thing Well the the case The Missouri and Louisiana case did, is going to the Supreme Court just as a side note even though that was more about COVID but it's always mentioned kind of in the same breath.

1:06:24 From our lawyer, as expected the feds have decided to go straight to Supreme Court. They asked Justice Alito to stay the preliminary injunction pending the filing and disposition of the government's forthcoming petition for a writ of centurari which sounds like a Roman soldier and any further proceedings also granted Alito granted them a one-week stay that was until next Friday and has ordered the plaintiffs to file a response by Wednesday from our lawyer here. It'll be interesting to see what the plaintiffs say in response, what Alito ultimately decides all we know for sure is the feds have announced their plan to seek a Supreme Court review while nothing uncertain uh our lawyer says the odds are very good they can persuade at least four justices to agree to hear the case which is the minimum needed if that happens the M5M will be hard pressed to ignore the story which they have so far except for this White House directive which seems to be overshadowing it a little bit but it's all part of the same thing

1:07:18 And this will, we know that this has been going on. It's non-stop and I think people are figuring it out and this will then bring me to equal airtime This morning the new Chuck Todd on Meet The Press Oh! Welker Yes, Welker interviewed President Trump and I have some clips Since it's very timely, let's listen to the intro. already dominant lead over the GOP field, with his sights firmly set on retaking the White House while facing enormous legal peril across four looming criminal trials. No topic was off limits from the prospect of jail time to big policy issues like a stance on abortion and his view of Russian leader Vladimir Putin who made comments this week about Trump's so-called plan to end the war in Ukraine. Take a listen. Now interestingly on Friday

1:08:28 Megyn Kelly also interviewed former President Trump and questions were almost identical. Oh, like scripted? Well except for one which we'll get to later... Can I mention something here? Yeah This Welker thing, the left-leaning Mastodon instances which is most of them including the main one. Except for Noah Genesis. They went ballistic! Why? Because the fact that they gave him airtime at all? Yes. Interesting. Well, maybe this is a part of taking it all down and let's cozy up to Trump man because you know he's gonna kill everybody so we'll start with the Derevilker

1:09:15 With the first question, which is we'll stick with Ukraine since that is the center of all action right now. I want to ask you about something President Putin said about you this week. I don't know if you've seen it but this was very recent. President Putin said quote We surely hear that Mr Trump says he will resolve all burning issues within several days including the Ukrainian crisis. We cannot help but feel happy about it What do you make of that? Do you welcome his support?" Well, I like that he said that because what I'm saying is right. I would get him into a room, I'd get Zelensky into a room then bring them together and have the deal worked out. It would've been a lot easier before it started. Essentially for four years... ...I kept them from doing anything because you know what I will tell you this, I never said this Ukraine was the apple of his eye

1:10:03 I said, don't ever do it. Don't ever do it. He would have never done it but again oil prices he wouldn't have done it because of me but oil prices the prices were so high that he had so much money So he had all this money to prosecute the war The one who drove up? The price is was Biden given that president Putin has bombed maternity wards. 20,000 kids kidnapped from Ukraine by Russia mass graves. Mass graves! Do you welcome his support? His all but endorsement Look I had a very good relationship with him and yet nobody was tougher on Russia than me. I stopped Nord Stream 2 You never heard of Nord Stream 2 that was the pipeline until i got involved. I said Nord Stream 2 people that were sophisticated

1:10:53 military people and political people never heard of Nord Stream 2. I had it ended, the pipeline was dead Biden came in and he approved it there was nobody tougher than me with Russia and yet I got along with Putin let me tell you I got along with him really well And that's a good thing not a bad thing He has 1700 nuclear missiles and so do we but look thats a good thing getting along is okay but I get along through strength The war would have never happened The war would have never happened. Now what's happened, it's so bad the oil price is so high It's hard to get it stopped The oil price is so high when he goes above 50 and 60 dollars a barrel He makes a lot of money on the war now. It's a humanitarian thing That's a lot of different reasons But I will get that war stopped A lot of interesting things in there about Nor- he's throwing Nord Stream out Nord Stream 2 which is not the one that was blown up

1:11:51 Very interesting and blaming it all on Biden because of the oil price. So let's talk about age because that's what we gotta do. What do you make of the age issue? Should there be an age limit to running for president? No, but there should be a competency I'm all for the test You know I took a test two years ago three years ago and as the doctors said And it was in front of doctors at a whole big deal at Walter Reed which is an incredible place And I aced it! Aced it?! I get everything right I'm all for testing I frankly I think testing would be a good thing. A lot of people say it's not constitutional to do it, but I would be for testing...to test that make sure everyone is just fine But a lot of people say that can't happen because of Constitution Is that true? You can't test a president? Nobody says that!

1:12:41 Why was he talking about? He always has reasons for throwing weird stuff out like that I think what he means is we can't actually find out the Joe is feeble Because then well, then we have to invoke the 25th Amendment. Maybe that's what he means So I don't think so. I think you see I think I know I don't think that's there it's too convoluted Well, the 25th Amendment could be implement it for any good reason. You know, the guy has a sore toe you could do it if you wanted to all I know is Trump throws stuff out there and there's always a reason for it sometime years later oh that's what that was about yeah I agree he does that but in this case let's continue with ageism What do you say to people who say it is time for a new generation of leaders? Well it's always time for a new generation but some of the greatest world leaders have been in their 80s

1:13:32 I'm not anywhere very near 80, by the way. And Biden's not too old. I don't think Biden is too old but i think he's incompetent and that's a bigger problem. I don't think 80 years old...I know people that are 89, I know person 94-95 who's 100 percent Bernie Marcus take a look at Bernie Marcus Home Depot! He has been amazing for so many years, he's 95 years old It's it's really a level of competency not the age you will be in your 80s if you're reelected Does that concern you at all? Well, I will be toward the end No because my father lived much longer than that. My mother lived much longer than that So genetically that's a good thing so The rest of the interview wasn't all that interesting You know, but yeah Will you pardon yourself, you know these dumb questions Christie gnome who's gonna be your running mate you left a note for Biden What did it say?

1:14:26 So, Welker I think she laid an egg on this one. The one that we really wanted to hear about the one that Tucker didn't broach was the vaccine question and Megyn Kelly asked the question and it's a long answer i think I think it's worthwhile to listen, we can interrupt it. Worthwhile to listen to what his answer was because this is truly the only thing that matters to MAGA country at this point when it comes to President Trump. This is the number one question they wanted me to ask you that you shut the country down for six weeks in spring of 2020 operation warp speed excuse me rush through.

1:13:32 I'm not anywhere very near 80, by the way. And Biden's not too old. I don't think Biden is too old but i think he's incompetent and that's a bigger problem. I don't think 80 years old...I know people that are 89, I know person 94-95 who's 100 percent Bernie Marcus take a look at Bernie Marcus Home Depot! He has been amazing for so many years, he's 95 years old It's it's really a level of competency not the age you will be in your 80s if you're reelected Does that concern you at all? Well, I will be toward the end No because my father lived much longer than that. My mother lived much longer than that So genetically that's a good thing so The rest of the interview wasn't all that interesting You know, but yeah Will you pardon yourself, you know these dumb questions Christie gnome who's gonna be your running mate you left a note for Biden What did it say?

1:14:26 So, Welker I think she laid an egg on this one. The one that we really wanted to hear about the one that Tucker didn't broach was the vaccine question and Megyn Kelly asked the question and it's a long answer i think I think it's worthwhile to listen, we can interrupt it. Worthwhile to listen to what his answer was because this is truly the only thing that matters to MAGA country at this point when it comes to President Trump. This is the number one question they wanted me to ask you that you shut the country down for six weeks in spring of 2020 operation warp speed excuse me rush through.

1:15:05 This is my audience's question, I gotta get it out. But I let the governors shut down some did and some didn't okay? Some didn't shut down operation warp speed though that was on the vaccines they were rushed through they have helped but also hurt a lot of people and your White House actually supported mask mandates so wouldn't you like to do over on any of that look when this came in nobody knew what the hell it was It sounded like an ancient pandemic You thought that was from 200 years ago or from 1917. We never thought you'd have a pandemic nobody had any idea we got Word that bad things were happening in China right around the Wuhan Clinic And I was the one that said it was in the Wuhan Clinic, and you know I stick stuck with it and it was it was absolutely It came out of the Wuhan clinic but you take a look at

1:15:55 What we did was, this was brand new. Nobody knew what the hell it was. There's dust... Somebody said there is dust coming in from China and it's killing people in Italy and it's killing people in France You understand what he's getting at here? What he's saying is We didn't know it's easy I think what he's saying is in hindsight easy to say that but I got all these messages All this stuff was happening and I took action It's going to kill people here. And by the way, I shut it down to China That was a big move. I saved thousands hundreds of thousands of lives by doing it but honestly nobody

1:16:30 I don't blame a lot of people because nobody knew what it was. Now we do understand it somewhat, nobody really understands it even now fully but nobody knew what COVID was and wasn't even the name! I called it the China virus, I still do. I call it the China virus that came out of China He does these great things where this is all NLP what he's doing It so good, he'll give you some information then Zap your head around with that, call it China virus. And it takes you back to that- takes you actually back into the briefing room when he was saying that is very smart. You know they call it COVID and COVID 19 as far as the vaccine's concerned uh you had the original COVID. That's the original COVID this was just original was different It's like original coke. It's not like new coke or diet coke its original COVID

1:17:19 it. I think this is also NLP when he says The Democrats told him, this is the greatest thing you've ever done. Think about it! So that immediately makes you think Democrats were in charge of this. It's really... I think it's really interesting. And the vaccine had an impact on that and there are some people-I will tell you Some friends of mine that are Democrat, I think they voted for me but they're Democrat very smart people top people

1:18:09 They say, you know I don't understand one thing. Why don't you talk more about the vaccine? It was one of the greatest things you've ever done now think of that they say to me and i say I'm not going to talk about it One way or another first of all no mandates. I don't want mandates. I never had mandates This is his thing this is his thing because of course we have to recall That the vaccine was not administered it wasn in In fact, it was held back until after the election specifically. It was held back on purpose? Yes on purpose by the Pfizer guys mainly and Moderna also. Well it was political as well but

1:18:48 Here we go. No, he says no mandates it was no mandates then He's got to take a shot at DeSantis and dates I never had mandates the Florida sort of had a mandate because they were giving the vaccine They would demanding everybody take their vaccine that's another thing but no mandates know anything I didn't demand anybody take it But I have people on the other side, not my side although probably there's some on my side too. They said you saved a hundred million people because i got it done in nine months as opposed to five years to 12 years. A lot of people... You're proud of it? No, I'm not proud of it. I'm saying what Democrats think So interesting You're proud of it? No! I'm not proud of it...no, I'm just telling you what Democrats say It's better than I think people realize People because I got it done in nine months as opposed to five years to twelve years a lot of people- You're proud of it

1:19:34 No, I'm not proud of it. I'm saying what Democrats think. Democrats- And I get it and I'm not somebody who denies some of the good that the vaccine's did. Interesting Megan says she doesn't deny some of the good of the vaccine even though she herself says that she is vaccine injured very interesting this. No, I'm not prouder at it. I'm saying what Democrats think. Democrats- I get it and I'm not to know about somebody who denies some of the good of the vaccines dead. I lived through that too but yeah Of course a lot have been vaccine injured. And that's one of the questions, those people are mad that they were rushed through and that they can't sue? Well I never gave mandates and people have to make up their own near make their own decision as far as i'm concerned now some places had mandates very strong mandates largely democrat governors and probably some republicans etc etc but

1:20:22 Wait a Democrat hmm is he talking about who he says mandate mandate mandate But as he told me the vaccine mandates, which she couldn't do because the vaccine wasn't available Or was he talking about mask mandates? He never mentioned masks or they're talking about, you know quarantine mandates. What mandate is he referring to specifically only vaccine mandates in my opinion That's all that he saw he will he was not going to discuss Quarantine or mass it does not come up near make their own decision as far as I'm concerned now some places had mandates a very strong mandates largely Democrat governors and probably some Republicans etc etc but

1:20:59 There are Democrats that say why aren't you talking about that? It's one of the they really believe strongly He's really trying to put this into your head. The Democrats is the Democrats the Democrats a Democrat once said you say and this is very smart people They said you saved 100 million people worldwide in 1917, you know they it could have been as much as 100 minute ended the first world war cuz all the soldiers were dying of of this horrible disease of 1917. You know, it actually ended the First World War. The soldiers were dying there was on those lines they're fighting and they're dying... The only reason he can be saying this somehow is to let us remind us that soldiers are dying our soldiers that the mandates

1:21:45 in the army and the military that these mandates, the soldiers are dying. That must be something like that I'm not sure why he's doing it otherwise. Well i think his freewheeling so you possibly possibly this horrible disease they said you might have saved a hundred million people fifty million people why aren't you talking about it? I said I am not talking about but what I did do is I got something done for that specific thing yeah there is I got something done so now we say hey I didn't force it in your arm. He should, he never says it wasn't even available during my presidency. I'm not sure why he doesn't say that."

1:22:22 That's a hedge, I think. But now he is going to say... Well it was available too once the election was over He had two months Yeah at that point He could have done mandating then I also got Regeneron and I got a lot of therapeutics done which were great Interesting! He calls them therapeutics Which would nullify any emergency use authorization And Regeneron? Was that really a therapeutic I guess it was. I just vaguely remember how Regeneron, what... That was a bad product! No no no, it's Remdesivir. Oh okay. Regeneron is the monoclonal antibodies? I think? No. Let me look it up. That specific thing- I also got Regeneron and I got a lot of therapeutics done which were great. I also got the robes and leather and rubber and all of the different things, the ventilators

1:23:23 We did a tremendous job and it's never, they appreciated what I did with the economy. I got a lot of good marks on economy. Got a lot of good marks on a lot of things rebuilding the military getting rid of ISIS, the biggest tax cuts in history. Supreme Court- I never got, I think that credit that I deserve like on COVID and I'll tell you the way I look at it came in and nobody knew who was we have to put ourselves back then I had a meeting and we had a lot of professionals in the Oval Office. They say, sir something bad is happening in the world. And I said what's that? And they said people are dying. They're dying in China, in this area and there was pictures of body bags all over the place black body bags satellite pictures

1:24:10 And they were all over. I said, that's strange and then it have a next another meeting the next day and the next day and the next day and all of a sudden they had something where the first person died in the United States and then another yeah and then it died Then they started dying all over Italy and all over Europe nobody really knew what it was Megan. I hear you Let's shift gears and talk about trans and women's rights It is monoclonal antibodies That's what we're talking about Okay? That's what it is So he's kind of saying I got duped. You know, hey no one knew what it was there was body bags satellite images of body bags which i've never seen. I don't think that must mean... He never said he was duped No that-I know! He's not saying it That is still his issue Yes we can say this He can't admit any false whatsoever. He can't say well that was a mistake This isn't.. He can simply say something was a mistake Is this pride?

1:25:07 Well, technically but there's more to it seems to me because even the most prideful person can say once in a while say they were wrong and some under some circumstance this guy can't do it. Pride! A disease that makes everyone sick except the person who has it. Anyway I thought Megan kind of gave up at the end there and then went to trans and... Yeah you're right she bailed. She did bail. Abruptly Yeah, well then she went on to say hey you let Caitlyn Jenner use your bathroom. I go okay It's also sad it's also pathetic It really is well at least somebody brought it up to at least listen to what his current spiel as it will it is His spiel tends to morph over time as he

1:25:58 Reanalyzes what he said so the next time he says it is better. He may be too maybe lose it out Yeah, and they don't probably be on one of his speeches Completely ironed out here. I guess you still working it out in his head This is not quite hitting home yet What do I have to change? You're right. He may not be capable of it. He made up because No, he's not capable but he could he can circumvent would he can work it up So he can do a bit You could do a comedy act about it. Make it funny! Speaking of the transgender issue... Now, it's time for our trans mouse gender update. Self-destruct initiated Well exactly as expected and I think you prognosticated it although they are not actual lead bullets It looks like children who have been

1:26:55 who've been mutilated are now firing away at doctors, psychiatrists, psychologists... Hospitals. Hospitals and probably parents soon We have and it's mainly girls who had been transitioned are now coming out. There's lawsuits being filed and Wow Alex Stein, you know Alex Stein the real Alex Stein 99 He's the guy that goes into all those City Council meetings and will dress up like a character Yeah, I can nut job. He's the best so he has a show which I didn't realize he has a comedy show and he has a Chloe Cole

1:27:38 And she was... Yeah, Chloe. She's one of the main ones. Yes! Well eye-opening answers in this and just this little bit of this interview eye opening. Well you know this is obviously a comedy show but I don't want to be disrespectful to you at all, definitely get your story out there so tell us about what happened at 14 and i've heard your story a bunch but for the people that haven't... You went to a doctor and I believe the doctor basically told your parents if you don't do this you're going to kill yourself wasn't that one of the main motivations in getting the gender uh... getting the mastectomy at fourteen excuse me fifteen? Oh yeah they totally honed on on that when

1:28:16 They're talking to my parents. This is the would you rather have a dead daughter or a living son? Yeah, classic! But interestingly she wasn't saying that until after they put her on medications. Excuse me 15 Oh yeah they totally honed in on that when they were talking to my parents about my desire to become a boy I wasn't suicidal at the time actually I wasn't suicidal until i was on the treatment set they put me on which, they put me on puberty blockers and testosterone when i was barely 13 years old. I was about halfway through my eighth grade year when they started this and i was 15 when they cleared me to go under the knife and get a double mastectomy that's when it was just-it was the summer after my sophomore year of high school and they decided to remove my breasts surgically

1:29:09 And yeah, if you would have asked your parents for a tattoo of Leonard Skinner or Taylor Swift tattoo do you think they would've given you a Taylor Swift tattoo? Oh no, I mean here in California it's illegal to even let anybody under 18 go into a tanning booth. And yet they encourage kids actually to undergo these permanent life-changing procedures that will affect the entire course of their development from there on." I thought this... To me? Oh wait a minute! The suicidal tendencies didn't come until you put the kid on puberty blockers well that changes the story a little bit. Changes the story A LOT

1:29:47 One of my friends this is gonna be a this is gonna be a horrendous and well-deserved nightmare Because she's not the only one and the end you saw one of these things where they become popularized You know, it's like all of a sudden and other It creates that kind of a cascade effect Which is what has to happen? And all these medical operations have got two. They're gonna be They're having meetings as we speak. Oh, you bet and it's going to involve schools? I do bet! Yeah you better believe it...I mean don't bet on it but well you can bet on it a friend of mine his wife is a grade school teacher middle school I think they call it and she had a they them in the class female

1:30:34 And I guess there was some school function and he asked his wife, he said hey is that the they them's dad? She said yeah how do you know. He says well first of all he's wearing a Ukraine t-shirt so that was just an easy guess So it turns out these parents Third grade hired a social worker to come and monitor their child in school to make sure she was okay all the time. And the school teacher said they made her so paranoid with this social worker hanging around, she had ADD but she thought that whole world was about her and it completely broke her brain. There you go transgender gotta be boy

1:31:14 It's all of it, the whole system. And I have to say it's coming from mind-controlled MK altered parents who wants... and this goes back to my hairdresser who were the crazy ones during COVID and now they need control over their lives. Here is something that I can control! My kid is trans yes I have control over this got it I understand that I'm being told that this is right and just And it's so sad because these parents, you have to forgive them. They don't know what they're doing! They've been manipulated completely psychologically manipulated into this anyone who wears a mask by themselves in their car You need to make sure that children are okay Check in on him! Check on him! Make sure the windows are rolled down in a hot car! You gotta check on her man It's just...

1:32:11 It's just nuts. Really is! I don't have any transgender stuff for todays show... No, that's really all i have on the trans... I mean we can't have although there was some pretty funny uh well actually we have the Actually I do have something to run Okay There are some crazy you know California's you know nuts about some of this stuff Uh yeah I've heard. I'm reliably informed So we have a couple of bills, school bills. You know they make sure that things are in order and the legislature is going to pass... I have two clips. This California School Bill A

1:32:55 Two California bills could impact how classrooms and school board meetings are run if signed. The first is Senate Bill 274, introduced by Democratic Senator Nancy Skinner. The bill would ban schools from suspending students who disrupt class or defy teachers known as willful defiance suspensions. The amendments taken in the assembly extend the current sunset on willful defiance suspensions prohibition for middle school students and creates a sunset provision for this on high school students. The bill has received bipartisan support... Skinner previously said suspensions lead to students dropping out of school at a time when many are still behind due to the COVID-19 pandemic

1:33:42 But people in opposition argue that the bill is almost like a license for the kids to misbehave, being detrimental to learning of others in the classrooms. Ayes are 31, noes are 6. It passed the legislature and it's now awaiting Governor Gavin Newsom signature in the coming weeks Let me just understand because not everyone in the world understands detention. So, detention is when you've been a bad boy or girl in the class and you're sent to the principal's office at least that's how I remember it and the principal says you have detention which means you have to stay after school in detention hall

1:34:17 and you have to be quiet, and do your homework. And you stay there for an extra hour or so You might have to do it for a week or two Is that what we're talking about here? Well they're talking about mostly suspensions where you get kicked out of school for a week Oh okay Because you knife the teacher Was that the example given? No, but it might as well be. I mean it's like the kids who are just maniacs and there are kids who are maniacs definitely kicked out of this school and they won't now you can do that You have to put up with them which means all the kids will suffer because you'll have these troublemakers and kids who aren't genuine troublemakers if anyone can remember back when you were a kid

1:34:59 There are kids that were just troublemakers and they loved it. Now you're giving them a free reign and you don't think they know it? I would like to refer everyone to a wonderful movie known as The Breakfast Club with Molly Ringwald and Judd Nelson, and these kids these troublemakers were put into detention which comes before suspension. And the whole movie is about that and they turned into wonderful human beings at the end of the movie! That's where they got it from... let us pass a law It's no good The Breakfast Club sucks

1:35:36 So let's play clip 2. This is another thing going on the second bill Senate Bill 596 would make it a misdemeanor to harass school employees or disrupt school board meetings It's also awaiting the governor's final decision introduced by Senator Anthony Portantino in February Individuals who harassed school staff in verbal written or electronic? Communication may face up to $1,000 in fines and jail time Critics say this bill silences parents and protects school employees from public criticism, not harassment. Governor Newsom has until October 14th to sign or veto bills this legislative year. So if you're on Twitter and you say your school board sucks, you can be fined a thousand dollars This is very Chinese by the way

1:36:31 China PRC stuff. Yeah, yeah social credit score I like it and this is pretty much the same thing and now we have the last thing which is oh there's more Finally somebody's pushing back against this and the government has kept California from from Imposing their crazy car mandates in this California car mandates now been kicked back by the by the fed feds California may not be allowed to implement its zero emission vehicle mandate. House lawmakers voted to strike it down and it wasn't just the Republican majority, eight Democrats agreed. NTT's Jason Blair has the latest The Preserving Choice in Vehicle Purchases Act passed the house on Thursday with a near party-line vote Who is screaming at me? Where is this from? Is this a local news report?!

1:37:24 NTD. The legislation seeks to void regulations in California that would ban the sale of new gasoline-powered vehicles by 2035 in order to fight climate change. The mainly Republican supporters said that California's mandate will have negative economic effects and intrudes on consumers' ability to choose a car that best fits their needs. The mainly Democrat opponents argued that the mandate is needed to combat climate change and reduce pollution, saying the transportation sector is a major contributor to greenhouse gases. Americans can make consumer choices based on their merits and needs, not radical mandates rooted in trying to force Green New Deal directives on families. This bill disregards over 50 years of precedent erasing decades of progress made by states to protect Americans from dangerous air pollution

1:38:18 And now has this passed or is it still up for vote, up for grabs? I think it's passed but hasn't been signed. By the way... The little kicker at the end is what got me! which is we need to get electric cars because of dangerous air pollution. That's not the same as global warming! I think we need to bring this jingle back, people are asking for it. To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gates... I think we just need a general jingle for all things climate madness I'll kick it off. Floods drowned thousands soon afterwards. But the question is now being asked, could it all have been prevented? In Libya where access to Derna is still so difficult, where there's a compounded problem of the problems of the dam breaking as well as the storm breaking from the sea this is a tragedy in which climate and capacity has collided to cause this terrible tragedy

1:39:27 Climate and capacity has collided to cause this tragedy. This is the new term climate... Is that my clip by the way or is that yours? That's mine, that's a UN douche! That's climate and capacity these are the two new...this is the new term I think this is what's gonna be the new thing Well they do have there's a there are pushing this idea that we're overcapacity I've no, play my clip to see if it's in this one. The catastrophic flooding in Libya came as a new study found Earth's ecosystems are outside of their safe operating space for humanity the report in the journal... There you go! Hold on! Gotta hear that one again. You know hey you know I'm sorry we gotta... Warning Amy Goodman clip inbound

1:40:16 I'm sorry, everybody. People are angry and didn't warn him here we go. The catastrophic flooding in Libya came as a new study found Earth's ecosystems are outside of their safe operating space for humanity Oh man that is beautiful! Outside of their safe operating space for humanity The report in the journal Science Advances warns of imbalances to a majority of key measurements of the planet's health, including biodiversity, fresh water pollution and climate. Climate scientist Johan Rockström co-authored the report. Six out nine boundaries are outside our safe space

1:40:56 The four boundaries that we assessed in 2015 are deeper into the red, so we're continuing to move in the wrong direction. And this is a big concern." Close to 800 organizations have endorsed climate actions beginning Friday culminating in a march to end fossil fuel Sunday here in New York at the United Nations. My goodness! So now I just got to write this down. I'm sorry, I have to write down exactly what she said. The catastrophic flooding in Libya came as a new study found Earth's ecosystems are outside of their safe operating space for humanity. Earth's ecosystems outside of safe operating space

1:41:47 For humanity. Okay, here's what I'd like to say. Bullshit! And with that i'd like to thank you for your courage in the morning to you little man who just put the sea and the climate and capacity catastrophe say hello to my friend on the other end one only mr john c devorah Good morning to you, Mr. Adam Crane, and all the ships, sea boots on the ground feet in the air, subs in the water! And all the dames and knights out there. And a load of trolls in the troll room... Hello trolls put your hands up let me see if... hello no oh don't run away hold onto us! Well we got a short row of ducks with a niner two-two-two nine on the troll count today 2229 trolls listening

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1:44:39 If it's valuable. Send it back to us. Time, talent treasure there's so many things you can do organize a meetup You can tell someone else about the program You can also create artwork for us our artists are doing this right while we're speaking They are creating art in live in real time because research shows that fresh new art for every single episode makes people interested It wants them they compels them like wow what is going on here something new is happening I want to be a part of that And you can, you can by just listening to it or creating some artwork. The artwork for the previous episode 1590 was very valuable to us. The title of that show was Bold Action and after some hemming and hawing we realized... Some? It took us quite a while actually to come up with this

1:45:31 It took us a lot. This was the this was a fallback, but it turns out this was a genius choice No it was a great choice I would turns out that which is typical when we do this when we have this I don't like this, you don't like this. Well i like this but it's too small! You can't read it! Oh you're nailing my voice... It's so accurate. I'm getting there, I could use some better deep notes but I think I'm getting close. It went after the other which is I had this and he had that and they didn't like this He didn't like anything actually. You said to me, YOU'RE IN A MOOD

1:46:09 I did because you're in a mood. And i said no, not in the mood! I just disagree with you old coot and so we went back and forth and back and forth it really took about 10 minutes yeah it took longer than normal It did... and then it turned out that when we picked which was a fallback it was like oh well we can agree on that one and it was the best choice I think in hindsight This got a lot of attention. I got people texting me, wow! You guys are genius you chose the right one. We're the best. That's how we roll that's why there's two of us Francisco Scaramanga brought us the artwork for 1590 very detailed to affirm A Mockingbird Of course referring to these scandal of libraries dropping all books from before 2008...I got an email from a librarian about this

1:47:06 who says, I've been waiting for it. This is why you listen to the donation segment. I've been waiting for a while for y'all to cover that what the library BS raging my best guess about weeding in can and Canadian school libraries they pick 2008 because it's 15 years ago and library administrators are lazy and disorganized they just picked that round year because that's when the woke mind virus ramped up It's also possible that some head librarian from that era retired So now they can toss all the bad books with impunity. At my library, books that don't get checked out for a whole year are sold or pulped! Administration regularly wants to trash the whole reference section." You know that's funny because I have we have a book sale here in Albany which is a small community that has a library

1:48:03 does this two book sales a year, and one of them is people donate their books and then they take books from all the various libraries. And it's all there! And so you can buy complete set of Encyclopedia Britannica for like $8. Wow. In fact I have so many reference books. I've got the Cambridge Reference Book Of American Ethnic Groups which is huge by the way. It was like 2 bucks or 3 bucks So you can load up if you have your own library in your own plate, you know Load up people. You got a house like John and you've removed all your family members load up books Cookbooks It's it's a bonanza I haven't they're cheap yeah so they the expunge or pulp expensive art books historical atlases

1:49:00 And our librarian says, library land has collectively lost its mind. Stop stop let's stop and mention what they mean when they say pulp that means they grind up the books yeah and send it to a paper cut a recycling company Yeah so this is worse than book burning by the way I'd like to point out that that the media is using burning and using all kinds of B words where really it's limiting access to children. It's a little different, you know they make it all sound so Nazi-like. I want to turn all our kids into

1:49:42 Hitlerjugend. Library land has collectively lost its mind, libraries have forgotten their core business is giving patrons the books and info that patrons want. Libraries have shunned their core value of neutrality in favor of virtue signaling." And I'm you know in 1987 I was asked by the ALA the American Library Association to participate in a poster campaign for them as an MTV viewer. Yes, and I wish I could find one... I can't tell you stop reading from the note No this is me because i'm sorry no it's me this is me okay I stopped reading from The Note. And there was a poster campaign and was me

1:50:26 In my full MTV glorified hair, I can't find it. It was like...I'm sure the tagline is like reading is good kids! Something like that I wish i could find that. I wish I could find a copy of that poster it was an actual poster and they put in libraries everywhere you should have that on your wall of shame well these days I'd be ashamed of it or, kind of like you have beautiful old books... Russell, spelling the word good with a u is probably the issue Thank you Francisco Scaramanga. Should we just take a quick look at some of the other pieces that didn't make the cut, that we had such arguments over because let me see if I can jigger my memory... Okay, the top is the COVID camp piece I liked a lot. I like to know agenda library cards a little bit. No no stop! That's not where you started

1:51:18 That's not at all where you started. Where did I start? Okay, so you started with the alien. You wanted the alien art. Oh yeah no i started with the sombrero flying saucer. Flying saucer right and I said well A it looks like AI and by the way almost everything looks like AI these days everyone's using it because it is. It is and then I said that Adam Curry and John C DuBois and little Mexican dancing dudes...it's too small! Of course that's what you said. Because it is! I agreed with that, the Mexican dancers were too small then i started looking around and then I went...I think I went to the cart next No you went to the quarantine camp signs

1:52:04 Oh, the COVID camp? Toxic shock. Yeah and I was like meh that's kind of a played out... No no! I'm sorry you're right you started with the library card. I love the library card and like dude why if it said 2008 on it maybe but this yeah that was a kicker that 2008 little thing is yeah yeah I had to give in on that one You did so and then after I was correct about two of these you said you're in the mood And what else did we argue about? Then I went to the camp and you said, nahh the camp is this. And so okay the camp was out. You're right! That's that is what I said about the camp

1:52:45 And then there was some different... You wanted, let's stop there because you kept pushing for the Curry Dvorak Mexican guy jumping out of an alien thing. Yeah I like that one! Niko Simes Vengo on pause Yes i like that one yeah it's like you know and then as a compromise I tried to throw out The Canadian Campfire by Matt Boisvert And, you know which had showed a fire. Yes right! You came up with that and I said what? No you didn't. You actually quite...You said yeah but no I see the maple leaf but you don't see the fire and I conceded and then you said well what about that mockingbird thing

1:53:34 And then we both looked at it and we went... I was exasperated, at that point. You wanted to go the stupid supermarket? The one with all the ugly produce? You wanted to leave! You were done with me you're done with the show. You are done with everybody. That's not true. So um... so you looked at it and I looked at it We couldn't see anything wrong with it. When you even mentioned that had a little Pride colors behind it. That was a nice touch. Yeah, little pride colors. That was a nice touch by Scaramanga. I think this turns out to be one of the better ones. It's killer! It really is. Who knew? Who knew? Sometimes that's how it goes and I am proud of us for sticking with it knowing Rage Quit

1:54:25 You know, we stuck through it. Well they had to do when you really have issues we end up going into the archives We did now we didn't go to the archive now. We go to our cash this year Let's take a see what was in submitted events show 1100 Look at some pieces there. We got lucky. We didn't have to resort to the evergreens Yeah, the evergreens which are a mess by the way. It's like no one wants the evergreens to be pulled up So that's talent and we thank Francisco Skyra manga for providing us with pure raw talent great job Thank you To all the artists who diligently provide us with choices Please back off on the AI people if you can just see it change

1:55:05 You can see in the past few months, you can see it's all AI. Even people who are really good artists are I think that they're putting their art into AI and say hey slick this up a bit! You know what i mean? But just everything seems AIE to me. Am I wrong in seeing this change? I saw weeks ago... Yeah okay, but you're an artist Well, I just saw it weeks ago. Good. Yeah, I mean soon as this was comic strip blogger gave up on the on his butt drawings And started submitting you know things that are 3d It's kind of a giveaway Once the ass went to 3D we knew it was all over That's how it goes people

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1:58:20 Connections between the Intel agencies and the mob are widely documented. However, the gigantic cover-up was certainly domain of Intel agencies It is equally likely that CIA officers Alan Dulles and Richard Helms were the masterminds He gives us many many points to back up his His thesis yeah And which I don't think we have to go through but they are all Perfect. They're all interesting all interesting and we appreciate that and we will give him a double karma just for the effort Thank you've got Karma And onward with Where are we Oh Catherine Knight? She's in Mesa, Arizona, and she has a switcheroo. No alright

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2:06:23 I was choring and listening to episode 1591. I had to drop everything and donate so i could bitch at John! Now, I'm just a lonely industrial engineer but even I know that hydrogen is an extremely viable alternative for coke in steelmaking and damn it John you should too I guess it's about the clean steel that we were talking about which has nothing to do with this, but he feels you should have piped up and said dusting off your college chemistry book. He'll be reminded that hydrogen is also a very potent reducing agent instead of giving off CO2 like burning coal the byproduct because pure water!

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2:16:50 He's already drinking it. He's already drinking the meat and munching on the mutton while you're doing that get one hand free, the non greasy ones surf over to no agenda rings calm take a look at these handsome night and Dame rings. One of them is yours all we have to do is send in your ring size handy ring sizing guide there you'll get your ring with the address you provide to us along with your wax to seal your important correspondence and of course a signed certificate of authenticity. And welcome to the roundtable, The No Agenda Nights and Dames! I am so proud of everyone who is organizing No Agenda meetups. Every single show day when i get the list from Mimi, it brings a smile to my face because it shows me that people are going way beyond

2:17:41 just listening to the show, they are getting together. They are enjoying each other's company It is a big nation, no agenda nation or for some of you Gitmo Nation and by getting to know people in your local community You're actually doing a service to yourself and your community because as you know connection is protection And in the Netherlands they spend two days connecting and protecting up in the Rijsvriesland with all kinds of activities, over 30 people. And as usual for the Netherlands they're stoned and sent us a meetup report. Special Agent Steele Johnson reports India Tango 33 Mike

2:18:17 They have a weird obsession with goats. I'm expecting one to be slaughtered later. They figured out Obama's gay, this is a problem! They're all eating meat CO2 emissions through the roof they keep calling me Mr.. Spook. I can't figure out why According to my handler. I am not the spook Still trying to find out why the Norwegian bingo wasn't a quiz. Now they're doing some sort of cult-like dance ritual, which is unlike anything we've ever seen! I saw they are eating tree resin... They are trolls from The Roots? Day two they're eating some kind of tree bark resin and talking about trolls. I'm pretty sure it's a ritual or drugs. End of report

2:18:58 It's got like a Dutch Dukes of Hazzard somehow. Weird! Here is our Lincoln's Meetup Report. Welcome to the Denver meet up at Lincolns Roadhouse This is Sir R, Peter Regichening happy to be out here and here is my Bitcoin brother Hey this is Cory just sending shoutout All you people out there, bye. Sir Scott staying dry This is Dennis I heard this place was so cool had to come all the way out from Wisconsin It's Jim from Denver in the morning sir a soothsayer here happy to report The Surprise Beer is not Bud Light and we are out thanks everybody no thank you and when you have a meetup today Charlotte's first annual golfing meet up kick

2:19:37 off this morning and that is at the Charlotte North Carolina Tradition Golf Club and then the Flying Saucer Draught Imperium. So I guess they're having a good time, we'll find out hopefully with the meetup report also the 33rd annual Knapp for Humanity takes place today it's underway at Duckworth Grill & Taphouse and Charlotte, North Carolina. The Tribal September Summer Rearview Mirror Meetup also underway in Indianapolis you know the Indy people are all crazy blind owl brewery and the Too Hot Tucson meet up will kick off this Thursday next show day at four o'clock at Canyons Crown in Tucson Arizona

2:20:13 Oh, that is Dame Beth who was organizing. And the Sanity Brigade 3rd Thursday 5 o'clock Idaho meetup at Selkirk Abbey post-Idaho's fall and do not miss the Thursday 3rd Thursday Meet Up 7 o'clock at Edds Tavern in Charlotte North Carolina and finally on my list until our next show day which is Thursday I'm 21st totally not a drug cartel or spook meetup nope! Not all Rosarita Beach Hotel in Rosarito Mexico! And that is Sir Brian of London who was hosting that he's He's one of those guys who, he is from Israel but somehow he has a gig and helps people sail the yachts around the world. And they are sailing yachts, catamarans... Oh yeah I knew a guy that used to do that! Well now you know two of them

2:20:57 Sir Brian Abundant is one. And he's a fun guy, so if you are anywhere near Rosarito Mexico go to the Rosarita Beach Hotel on September 21st and remember no agenda meetups, noagendameetups.com it's very easy to find out where there is a meet up near you If there isn't one start one yourself always guaranteed a party! Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days As usual around this time we look for end of show isos, which is another another fine Segment and we put all you got I have three actually. I don't know if they're those I only have one Here's my first one. I know this I don't even know that

2:22:00 There's this one. No, I'm not a poor baby. I'm more reptilian. Muddy audio is too bad. Who was that? That's Pelosi saying she's a reptilian. Oh she is reptilian! Did you hear that whole clip that she says she's a reptilian?! Here, listen to this. Uh you know of course she was going to say that but... Poor baby! Yeah she's really really committed to that it's really sad No I'm not a poor baby i'm more reptilian and cold-blooded and go in or win the election uh we're gonna take a short break You know when people tell you what they are he might as well believe them so but that's not a good ISO maybe this one? I also got the robes and the leather and the rubber That's all I got

2:22:42 Well, I only have one and so but it is a show ender. It's a better okay here we go I tell you what we're great yep That's the one no doubt about it to winner to winner or great to winners a winner But want to do something there's this clip that I found from Africa today because it's you know obviously oh nearing the end of the show So might as well bring in Africa for a moment And it reminded me of something that we may just want to talk about briefly. This is about Mali, Niger and Burkina Faso. The military leaders of Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger have signed a mutual defense pact that binds the signatories to assist one another including militarily in the event of an attack on any one of them

2:23:29 Ministerial delegations from the three Sahel countries announced this in Mali's capital Bamako on Saturday. The contracted parties undertake to combat all forms of terrorism and organized crime in the common area of the alliance. COAS, the Liptakoguma Charter, the pact establishes the Alliance of Sahel States AES. The Liptakoguma region, where the Mali-Burkina Faso and Niger borders meet has been ravaged by jihadism in recent years Of course everything starts with security but the heads of state must also think about economic issues how to bring different countries closer together and how to facilitate trade between our different populations All these issues will be added to the charter in the coming days

2:24:21 All three countries have undergone coups since 2020, most recently Niger. West African bloc ECOWAS threatened to intervene militarily but Mali and Burkina Faso quickly responded by offering their military support to Nigerian So what this reminded me of was because these African countries who've all had coups which is no coincidence kind of how World War I started with the Conference of Berlin. And I don't know if, and I'm not really...I'm only just learning about this because for some reason this was never in my history book but the Conference of Berlin was at like 1890 and all these European countries got together and said hey

2:25:11 It's time to divvy up Africa. And most famously, King Leopold of Belgium took over the whole Congo and wiped everybody out and wound up kind of winning with all the valuable minerals and resources but you know that all these you know the Italians, the Dutch, the French, the British everybody had a piece of Africa and this Berlin conferences where they, is really where they all agree to this division. And I think the way I'm starting to understand it now is that Germany felt gypped

2:25:48 But they didn't get what they should have, and that is of course with the shot that was heard around the world with Ferdinand being shot. That kicked off World War I. World War II, there's an argument to be made that there were a lot of Africa shenanigans involved in that as well. And now I'm just thinking are we not focusing on the wrong thing? Ukraine Although that may be where we have the actual fighting starting, but in a way aren't we seeing all these countries going into Africa again and trying to divvy it up? But Africa maybe this time pushing back with these types of agreements amongst the three couped states. Does this ring true in any of your history knowledge John? No

2:26:43 Nothing at all? The Berlin Conference, none of that. Well I mean I know about all these things but I don't think that's what we do...I think what's going on today if Ukraine has anything to do with it is as a conduit for moving arms and ammunition to Africa. Right okay yes opposed to being anything else. I guess what i'm saying more is that Africa has always been, the resources of Africa have always... There's too much goodies down there! There has always been a source gold diamonds all kinds of rare earth everything right so it's copper it's always been a uranium it's always been a source of argument amongst the conquering nations mainly of Europe yeah well they do where they see it you have a bunch

2:27:30 dummies in Africa who are just not qualified to compete with the smart Europeans. And so you just take their stuff, it's a bunch of bullies and they don't even share with the Africans? They make the African kids do all the work? I think this is kind of what's happening. The Africans have internet, like hey hold on a second! That you know that actually now you're talking yeah that's the possibility they got the phone to get them little phones and carry around Kenya has 94% penetration of 5G. I mean they're rocking and rolling down there now i'm thinking that especially Mali Burkina Faso Niger like hey we got internet

2:28:21 You know, we've been emailing you for years and now we're sick of ya. Stop coming here and taking our goodies! Just a trick... I'm gonna stay on this. I'm gonna see if i can find some more evidence of what's happening." Yeah keep us sick in half the show. Do the show a favor. You're racist. You just hate black people and Africans are too. No, I love the black people. The black people? So uh I know one last clip the black a couple clips if you want to see it We got some time, but I gotta play them. You know I was trying to get the Biden stuff the Biden Maryland speech is just a gem of Gaffes and yelling and screaming he's coming close

2:29:05 Yeah, but they didn't jack him up enough. But there's still good stuff in there I just couldn't edit it together and then I got distracted by another edit job. I tried to do I they have Naomi Klein was on Democracy Now moaning and groaning she has a new book called doppelganger It's about Naomi Wolf Yes about Naomi Wolf being getting inner you know in her strike zone and causing trouble and I started trying to edit some pieces from it and they ended up with Naomi Klein can barely get away. She's worse than Musk when it comes to... And so, I couldn't do that. I'd be there all day but I do have one little sub clip of Biden because this is

2:29:56 Only because he yelled this out and it's just one of these things that galls me And I'll tell you why after we play it first George Community College. Thanks for welcoming us here today as many of you know My wife is a professor at the community college All right, nobody's a professor in a community college You're not a professor in high school either no And by the way, now that you mention it or not I mentioned it. Why is she working at all? Who are we kidding with this? Yeah she does. Oh yeah! She still works...she's going to the community college to give her speeches. I forget what she's even teaching anymore. Please oh please no I think that um You know this-you're waiting for the speech where Biden gets all jacked up and says something weird Massively jacked him Not little jacked Well I think it's coming

2:30:53 No, he says it's coming. He said in this speech... But I'm going to tell you what is... Yes! And I know where it's gonna happen Here is the teaser. The United Nations General Assembly holds its 78th annual session in the week of September 18, leaders from around the world descending upon New York for what's expected to be the most interesting UNGA since before the pandemic with a focus on Russia's invasion of Ukraine shadow diplomacy with Iran and the increasingly tense geo-strategic divide between the US and China general debate begins on Tuesday All right! Well this is where they're gonna jack him up

2:31:29 And he's gonna... He might be right. I didn't know about that, yeah. Yeah, he's going to let it go down. But you know what? He said in this last speech in Maryland where he was half jacked. Half jacked! He says he has a big speech coming up. That is the one. But he never said where or what and so did this would that would be great. That's the place to do it. Jack him up to the max and let him go see what happens. You know if he's so full of Ukraine maybe or something like, I got that son-of-a-bitch out It would be great if he did something like that. I can't wait, i can't wait! This story has been out since two weeks and we haven't talked about it. I'd just like to play this briefly well briefly... This morning new details about how hackers breached some of the most recognizable hotels on the Las Vegas Strip in one case in just 10 minutes

2:32:22 figured out who worked at MGM and decided to call into the IT help desk and pretend that they were one of the existing employees. ABC News has learned a Russian hacking network provided the ransomware used to a group known as Scattered Spider, reportedly based in the US and Europe. MGM property computers including at the Bellagio and MGM Grand went down Tuesday, resulting in days of long check-in lines and casino machines offline with reports of IOUs given out to winners. Check-in procedure is kind of messy a lot of long lines gambling's really messy it's not as fun when you have to wait

2:33:03 The Financial Times reports the hackers originally tried to manipulate the slot machine software. Unsuccessful, they then hacked the resort systems in exchange for money. There's a good chance that they're going to get paid because they need to get those operations back up and running as soon as possible. They're losing tremendous amounts of money. MGM says it is operational and working diligently while addressing individual guests needs promptly days earlier hackers targeted Caesars Palace. Compromising the hotel's loyalty program data, including social security and driver license numbers. Caesars paid the ransom reportedly $15 million. Scattered Spider claims it accessed 6 terabytes of data from both Caesars and MGM. Experts warn all big corporations are at risk for similar hacks unless employees are properly trained. These were the IT professionals that were fooled

2:33:54 These were the, this was the IT help desk. They've alluded that this was an outsourced vendor but nevertheless it's always education it's never letting your guard down Caesars is now offering identity theft protection and credit monitoring services for those affected. And at MGM, it wasn't just Las Vegas hotels affected other properties nationwide were also hit. So the interesting that the word not used here is ransomware even though that's exactly what it was We have boots on the ground, which I will read. Indeed the breach originated from the help desk with credentials likely obtained through phishing or social engineering despite this being preventable through methods like two-factor authentication no such measures were in place

2:34:41 This started at the corporate level. See, that's a little different from the report there that says oh it started with the flop machines no start the corporate level made its way to all MGM properties even those in Macau including uh in Vegas Aria Bellagio New York New York Cosmo Mandalay Bay MGM Park MGM The list goes on upon discovering the hack which I would say was ransomware, MGM took their systems offline voluntarily. Hackers are demanding over $100 million in ransom and of course we didn't even hear about the Caesars incident and Caesar's reportedly paid 30 million dollars in ransom and managed to keep it under wraps until now According to our boots on the ground It's a shit show! I'm currently working on a project with corporate. It will be at least two weeks before email is even restored

2:35:35 And I love that it was first China when this first came out. Oh, it's China! And now it's the Russian group Scattered Spider. Scattered Spider... Who comes up with these names? I don't know but these guys are making bank and I'm surprised they didn't go after those casinos earlier Well they did You know, they went after I mean earlier like years ago. Who knows? Well that's true because the Caesars thing was kept quiet so it's possible it's like bankers you know they're all we got hacked We lost all this money don't say anything and then they hide it in their financials with under some bogus line item

2:36:21 Yeah, yeah. He's no good. Let me see I have... Oh yes this was kind of important even though the Mexican aliens are off the news desk that's done because i don't think anyone was fooled by that But NASA did come out as expected. They downplayed any UAPs, UFO's but the important news got out... NASA has released a highly anticipated report on UFO's after a year long independent study and believers

2:37:00 may be disappointed. Scientists found no evidence that any of the UFOs documented had extraterrestrial origins, but looking forward NASA has now appointed a UFO research director saying further study will require new scientific techniques like artificial intelligence and advanced satellites. The truth is out there! Advanced sat... more money! More money for NASA. Yeah, we need advanced satellites that's what we need yeah We need that more money send us more money It's very dangerous Very dangerous it could happen could be real when you needed satellites we need stuff speaking of Speaking of AI this was a very weird report from France 24 Let me see if I can find this But it kind of made sense in the whole AI

2:37:52 Gambit. Let me see, this is... where was this now? It was yes here it is AI regulation in Europe because of course not just Chuck Schumer's on this but we heard Ursula Queen Ursula talking about it but listen to this report cuz not everyone is on board and it seems like they've this may even give us a clue as to what they're really trying to do with Now the European Union is wasting no time to try and regulate AI. Absolutely, they're well ahead and we're now in trilogues for the AI Act so that's the EU institutions hammering out the details and one sticking point at the moment is this idea of a human rights impact assessment that's put forward by the European Parliament. So the idea is those who deploy high-risk AI will have to fill

2:38:44 a impact assessment saying what risks their systems could have to human rights. Now the campaign group Avaaz helped develop this proposal, saying it's necessary because of cases like in the Netherlands where the police used AI profile children and this led to over 800 them of them being wrongly registered on their systems and even some of them being taken to child protection services. So Obaz says it's crucial but says that actually France is one of the countries spearheading the charge against these impact assessments now, the French government hasn't responded to this concern what I can say over in the UK they're taking a very different approach all eyes are on this November summit at Bletchley Park on the 1st and 2nd

2:39:26 and with the idea of long-term existential risks. This is certainly what Elon Musk is worried about, and he of course signed that letter six months ago calling for a pause in AI. Now the people that wrote that letter, The Future Of Life Institute are saying well we shouldn't be talking about risks now and risks in the future, we should look at it more like climate change. It's a set of new technology and it's a set of risks that could do great harm in the future but are already doing a lot of harm now." That would make sense!

2:40:09 Make everyone believe, and Elon Musk is right up front that AI is just like climate change. And open the floodgates of money! Oh we have to do so much to mitigate the dangers of AI it's just like climate change and you can even combine the two I think that may be what these guys are gunning for Let's make it just like climate change yeah why should we let all those douchebags get all the money? Yeah Yeah, those guys haven't done anything. Yeah the douchebags they're just this climate thing is it just Wheel spinning let's do something new yeah well Let's let's get some of that sweet sweet climate cash. Yeah you might be on to something there Yeah, and you know what they did they're gonna wrap I finally got this kind of an interesting clip This is the

2:41:03 The Whitmore case is finally wrapping up. Whoops! Not exactly what... The FBI-Whitmore scheme ends, it's finally ended and there are a few people who got... I don't know the whole thing was a front for an FBI sting It was a hoax. In Michigan, a jury today acquitted three men in connection to Governor Gretchen Whitmer's kidnapping plot. This likely concludes the trial over the kidnapping attempt that took place in October 2020. Eric Molitor William Knoll and Michael Knoll were each found not guilty. Prosecutors allege the man conducted surveillance of the governor's vacation cottage

2:41:42 In the whole case, ultimately nine men were convicted or pleaded guilty in the case and five were acquitted. Authorities have said that men were planning to kidnap the governor from her vacation home but they were arrested first some of the defendants said that FBI undercover agents coerced them to drive the plot forward. Yeah finally Although, inconclusive there. Three years later this thing took forever to resolve Well of course we can't have anyone actually hearing about this news because then it would show the FBI has a cycle and they did this to incriminate Trump voters

2:42:22 Yeah, and that you know in it and they're you know white supremacists And they're horrible people and Whitmore was trying to raise her profile by this phony baloney Kidnapping scandal and now just has to fizzle out in the mainstream can't can't really admit as I didn't do with it Now they fell for it. They fell for it hook line and sinker as usual Well, they fell for Jesse Smollett's cock and bull story. Yeah it was three in the morning It was freezing out some MAGA guys with the MAGA hats came out with a noose! And eventually maybe three four years from now we'll hear about January 6 being phony Laura Logan by the way coming out with a documentary I think is it out already? Maybe next Thursday about January six What does she conclude

2:43:12 Oh, that was all... she did. I sat through almost half of an interview she did with Stu Peters. Oh this guy That's stupid. It was a good one. She well, it was interesting she said oh no, Bray Epps is not FBI says Oh no every single agency had shills in that or in that J6 she says defense Homeland Security you know but she has like eight different agencies who said that all had shills walking around trying to get the

2:43:52 I have to watch the documentary, but it sounds like she's saying that this was so coordinated that everybody was in on it. And she is a pretty good journalist so... Yeah, she is and it makes sense because you know Nancy Pelosi refused to bring the troops in and there's- The whole thing was a scam. But it's a good talking point for the Democrats January 6th! Yeah but Stu Peters really? That guy creeps me out. I don't know what is about him I haven't seen his stuff for at least two or three years. Oh, no he's active He's very active huh guess maybe we need to talk about this one little thing before we go up fair warning

2:44:36 Elitist Voices of America. This is NPR or PBS. The United Auto Workers are testing their strength with a strike and Paris Kamila Domanowski joins us, Kamila thanks for being with us happy to be here Scott what's it been like? What have you seen? Yeah, I mean, I talked to executives at the Detroit Auto Show. I went out and spoke to people on picket lines and pitch blackness. There was one image from this week that I'll never forget. There were two events right next to each other in downtown Detroit last night. One was a big UAW rally. Bernie Sanders spoke huge emphasis on the vast and growing gulf between the haves and have-nots in America

2:45:18 Then, literally next door Scott there was a glitzy charity event at the auto show. $400 ahead for a ticket people are dressed to the nines in floor-length gowns with drinks walking around the cars and right outside red T-shirted people in the streets with picket signs just separated by some glass and some mounted police officers. Oh, that's fascinating. Bernie Sanders got no play on that he was out there I didn't see anything. I have a UAW clip too we should probably talk at least one minute about this before we leave Sure The first ever strike against Detroit's three largest automakers at the same time is taking place right now President Joe Biden today siding with the Union in a strike that could affect the nation's economy NTDs Arianne Pazdar has the details

2:46:12 The United Auto Workers or UAW started the first ever simultaneous strike against Detroit's three largest automakers on Friday. The unions president made the announcement shortly before midnight, which is when the contracts between automakers and workers expired For the first time in our history we will strike all three of the big three at once We are using a new strategy, the stand-up strike. The union wants 40% pay raises to compensate for soaring inflation. Automakers which include General Motors Ford and Stellantis offered up to 20%, phased in over several years. The Union declined President Biden on Friday siding with the union

2:47:01 Auto companies have seen record profits, including the last few years because of the extraordinary skill and sacrifices of UAW workers. Those record profits have not been shared fairly in my view with those workers Record corporate profits, which they have should be shared by record contracts for the UAW. Biden sent two of his top aides to Detroit to get involved in the negotiations The president and CEO of the US Chamber of Commerce said in a statement on Friday that the UAW strike and indeed this summer of strikes is the natural result of the Biden administration's whole-of-government approach to promoting unionization at all costs

2:47:43 A long strike threatens to spread economic turmoil. General Motors CEO Mary Barra says the strike could harm employees, their families and even the US economy saying for every general motors job there are six other jobs in the economy that depend on us running So I've heard both sides of this and I think the workers make a valid point like, hey man 2008-2009 we gave you all this stuff and we didn't take... We helped in the great recession. And then we want it back and our jobs used to be good paying union jobs that now we can't even get by because of inflation which i'm sure is true

2:48:29 They've got a valid point. Then on the other side, it's all political as unions are the most political organizations we have probably in the United States and I think they're that they may be out to this maybe a ploy to also bring down Biden. I think it's a play to bring down Biden. You want to hear NBC actually, I think they solidify that point. It's a short report. And there is a lot of political fallout from this unprecedented strike we just heard from President Biden with his eye on 2024 he's trying to walk a fine line between supporting the workers and limiting the impact on the economy Kelly O'Donnell is at The White House with more on that

2:49:09 auto strike, politics always has a seat at the table. I said please stay at the table as long as you can to try and work this out. President Biden caught squarely in the cross currents backing unions is in the DNA of his political brand. And proud to be the most pro union president or the most pro-union president. I'd be the most pro union president American history today saying strong unions are good for the economy. Auto workers help create America's middle class They deserve a contract that sustains them in the middle class. But his climate agenda also puts him behind the wheel of electric vehicles, touting American automakers' investment to move away from fossil fuels. Kelly also looming over all this is the UAW's endorsement

2:49:57 A labor endorsement the president wants very much, but has not yet secured. So he has a stake in this too The White House says he wants a good outcome for everyone while it was clear today Lester that workers deserve more when carmakers profits have gone up Yeah It seems to be hitting Joe right where his... Right where it counts for him Well what's gonna happen if this strike goes more than two weeks It's going to affect, it's going to create a mini recession that is going to be blamed on Biden. A mini recession? What are we in now? We're not in technically a recession at all but whatever the case is... I'm sorry, I just got to stop. Isn't two negative quarters technically a recession?

2:50:47 We don't have two negative quarters as far as I know. I thought we had them, we already had two negative quarters? A couple of quarters ago maybe. Oh okay it's no longer that? Whatever the case it's gonna be noticeable because these recessions are not necessarily been noticeable gas prices everything that people are bitching and moaning about the price of chicken Beef is overpriced, I have to say. Just bought some stew meat was $6.50 a pound at Costco of all places for Chuck. Chuck is too expensive it should not be seven bucks a pound but anyway the point is that this is gonna get blamed on Biden because he hasn't done anything about inflation and he's you know just going to spend more money this day being targeted they don't want him running again they gotta do something about it they're gonna try pull everything out

2:51:39 I mean, half the Democrats do want him again because well he beat Trump fair and square. Their conundrum is they don't want Kamala that'll be the worst thing they can think of so they don't want to kill him No, they don't wanna kill him They got it just have him resign So I think the best bet is the impeachment bet Create enough of this of the evidence bring it out there and get his party people like what happened with Nixon Yeah, yeah to take him aside and say look. This is good. This is a distraction. This is not good for the party There's too much going on here you're gonna get yourself in trouble. This is you know we don't need this aggravation We don't even want you to be impeached resign

2:52:28 Which is what they did to Nixon. Yeah, Democrat army sorry the Republicans did that to Nixon They took him aside and told him to resign and he did yeah But he's so nuts. Well, they gotta jack him up He's got to make a big faux pas now. It's gotta be apparent even... We'll jack him up Oh man I'm just... Yeah if you jack him up and let him loose with the press conference that could be a real issue it would be great for the show because he's poking at people calling them Jack Hey Jack! I'm all jacked up I did it! Ukraine! Eh, eh. What? Hunter! Huh? Bo is dead!" Something like that. So after they boot him out they really don't have any other choices and like the reporter said in that earlier clip it's got to be Gavin Newsom who is really unlikable nationally. California has a you know we've got rigged elections so he gets in easily enough

2:53:27 If you want to play one last clip, I do have the clip about the family. You have to look this one up but i've been keeping it around okay It's about the California political families that run everything And it is... California. The four, look at the four co- Oh! We've played this haven't we? Four families Yeah I think so but it was years ago It's good. It's from the archives Listen this is a no agenda show baby we got it on tap Pat Browne's father Edmund Joseph Browne was known for running scams and gambling operations in San Francisco

2:54:07 With the help of businessman William Newsom II, Pat Brown became governor of California for two terms. During his governorship he awarded the Squaw Valley concession contract to William Newsom III and his partner John Pelosi The deal was criticized for the state of California paying for everything and getting nothing William Newsom III grew up with the governor's son Jerry, who was training to be a Jesuit priest. John Pelosi's son Paul married Nancy D'Alessandro daughter of Thomas D'Alessandro Jr., who was known for smuggling heroin into the U.S. with Lucky Luciano and the Baltimore Mafia. John Pelosi's son Ron married William Newsom's daughter Barbara

2:55:00 Over ongoing disputes about the Squaw Valley concession, William Newsom Sr. threatened to hurt the governor politically just as Governor Brown was running for a third term against Ronald Reagan. He lost but eight years later the former governor's Jesuit son Jerry reclaimed the governorship in 1974 He appointed William Newsom III to a Placer County judgeship in 1975, and three years later to the state court of appeal. William Newsom was an attorney for oil magnate J Paul Getty named in the 1966 Guinness Book of World Records as the world's richest private citizen

2:55:49 And while serving on the appellate bench in the 1980s, he helped Getty's son Gordon secure a change in state trust law that allowed him to claim his share of a multi-air trust. After Newsom retired from the bench He became administrator of the Getty Trust and provided seed money for his son Gavin Newsom, Nancy Pelosi's nephew to start the plump jack business that led to a career in San Francisco politics. As mayor of San Francisco and Lieutenant Governor of the State of California. Gavin Newsom was informally adopted by the Gettys after his parents divorced, and recently succeeded family friend Jerry Brown to be the current governor of California For 80 years these four families have ruled over the state of California politically It's called our democracy

2:56:48 at work. That's what it is called, democracy at work! And the Bushes don't rule California but they unsuccessfully tried to get Ken Paxton out because George P Bush was all upset. It is these cartels of families and let us throw the Careys in there, let us throw Mitt Romney in there. The Kennedys! Let's throw them all in there with this is what we need to wake up to, in America and I'm sure the same happens everywhere...in every other country in the world. Yeah, democracy. Democracy that's right everybody that's your democracy at work

2:57:28 We should start every show off with that clip just to remind us. That's a great clip is good All right, everybody that is our deconstruction now you understand the world It's very small it's just a small bunch of douchebags not that hard to understand we just get distracted by you know all kinds Of stuff but not you you belong to gitmo nation knowledge in the nation knows better You know the truth and you got her with a smile And we have end of show mixes coming up from Dee's Laughs, Dr. I and Sir TJ the Raffle and J-Dog! And right after the show live on Noah Jenner Stream, we have Rare Encounter featuring Cold Acid and Abel Kirby Make sure you stay tuned for that Coming to you from the heart of Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6 In The Morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley

2:58:24 Where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak. We're getting ready for that jacked up joke! Until Thursday when we return remember us at dvorak dot org slash n-a support the show send some value back until then adios mofos a hooey hooey and such A CBDC as you know, share this with your friends neighbors and colleagues. You got to wake people up it is a totalitarian system of total control tracking and tracing if they don't like your politics or your speech or your viewpoint they don't like here if they don't like the fact that

2:59:00 Yeah, I said when children are left to their devices But what do parents do? except give them more devices fear for democracy more than ever so private that the information is confidential how clever searches of infection who's to blame under vaccinated but not under vaccinated i mean come on man they geolocate their data track and trace uninformed citizens running in place they can't keep pace 1.50 an hour during a pandemic was dark but making money on zoom from afar felt dark

2:59:49 Like a therapist, tell your secrets to a stranger Shout out to that guy returning every room into a danger Yeah Tell your secrets to a stranger What else? Fearless as the Lone Ranger Shout out to that guy returning every room into a danger It's so utopian, it's fantastic. We're going to build walkable neighborhoods and new paths to home ownership. Wow! We'll have down payment assistance programs and other solutions. These guys are... they're saints. Yeah.

3:00:27 Just to set everybody in the right tone, masks do not stop you from getting or spreading flu cold or COVID. COVID is not a killer virus and RNA is not a vaccine it's an experimental gene tinkering thing there are only men and women two-spirit and non binary are not genders librarians used not ugly with green hair. There is no LGBTQ community, there's no black community the world is not overpopulated there's no structural wage difference between men and women in the workplace all politics is theater The US president is not the king or emperor or your daddy who's going to save you if want to speak to your real father talk

3:01:08 talk to God. All advertising-based media is dishonest at best and likely propaganda, and climate change initiatives are a huge money making global scam! We don't talk about Brandon, man We don't talk about Brandon It was election time Economy was booming And there wasn't a cloud in the sky No clouds allowed in the sky. Brandon walks in, scandal may begin It's science! You telling the story you're my Sorry my son go on... Brandon says six feet apart That's what they tell us Wear a mask alone in your car That's freaking crazy Don't question what the experts say Just give facts to your slaves We don't talk about Brandon

3:02:05 We don't talk about bra- Obvious to see Brandon stuttering or stumbling I can always hear him sort of muttering and mumbling. I associate him with the sound of- Go, you know the thing! He takes heavy sniffs of the kids it's so frightening Always falls asleep while he's supposed to be speaking Grappling with words that no one understands It's not a joke think about it A four year term Creeps all in my house What's the big deal? Build back somebody else but the one good thing we salvaged from this mess All it means about

3:02:49 It's been two years They say it's for your health What have we got to show? Pfizer's got the wealth Economy is crap You know who we can thank If this is normal now We are gonna need some serious help! But who could save us? I don't know, buddy. But i'm really scared... Could the government help? Hey yeah they could just print up some more money Isn't that inflation?! Nah it's just paper Cool thanks Brandon You wanna six feet in the ground Not what they tell us

3:03:28 Double mask up in your car That's freaking crazy Triple jab right in your arm How am I still positive? We all talk about Brandon But one or six feet to the ground Creeps all of us out Plus a double mask up and your car That's freaking crazy But the one good thing you saw How am I still positive We all talk about Brandon. Let's go, Brandon! I agree! The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N-A. I tell you what we're great