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00:00 Okay, Frenchie. I'm Adam Curry, and from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all wondering why are cluster bombs a good idea? I'm John C. Dvorak. This has got to be the funniest news story of the week because it's not just cluster bombs... It-it's cluster bombs with a very low dud rate!

00:46 Yes, that's right. I forgot the dud rate. They gotta go through the bomb cluster and make sure... How do you test? How do you test this, I'm asking! Well let's listen to Adam Smith. You'd have to blow them all up to see what the dud rate was This is Adam Smith a Democrat from, I believe Washington In March last year America's UN ambassador criticized Russia for its deployment of cluster munitions saying they had no place on the battlefield. Quite an about turn by the Biden administration this. The Russian cluster munitions have about 30 to 40 percent dud rate, they're spreading unexploded ordnance all over Ukraine. The weapons that we are sending have a dud rate of just over one percent which is a dramatic difference in the two weapons. Oh yeah foam finger number one baby! We got a dramatically lower dud rate

01:42 Except Washington has a very high dud rate. Washington DC, this is an unbelievable statistic And why? Oh, Adam Smith explains again on the BBC. Why do we have to send the oh-so loved cluster bombs with low dud rate to Ukraine? We would much rather not have introduced this weapon which is why we didn't do it until we got to the point where it was basically the only ammo that we had left to offer them. That's interesting you say that – the only ammo we have left I mean, could it just be that this is a bridging operation and at such time where the United States is able to supply more shells

02:28 to Ukraine, these cluster munitions will not be necessary. Yes thank you actually I put that poorly and you corrected me properly and I appreciate that we are in a gap they still have other ammunition but at the current pace of battle they will have to begin to severely restrict its use and eventually run out if these weapons aren't used then the other thing that we are doing All of our allies, the 53 nations that are working together on this are ramping up production of other ordinance. And yes, that would be the plan to get back to that and the bigger plan would be to force Russia into the peace table so we can end the war entirely. Bomb them! Bomb them and bomb them again! Yeah baby! Oh it's a way to force Russia into the peacetable? You gotta force Zelenskyy to the peacetable

03:22 I mean these things all we've ever heard is how horrible people are who use these things. There's somebody must have a clip of Jen Psaki when she was the press secretary saying that cluster bombs, according to the president, cluster bombs are war crime Oh wow! I wish... But i don't think we have it there was no reason to run that clip What? I have McCain here for some reason what's this McCain clip when is this from 2015. Let's have a little listen. Again this week we've seen the skies over Donetsk, it is suspected that it could be incendiary munitions which international conventions ban from use in civilian populated areas back in July they were reportedly dropped on cities controlled by anti-government forces

04:11 Well, international observers have previously caught the Ukrainian army using prohibited weapons. The use of cluster bombs in populated areas was confirmed by the Human Rights in October. The Watch Dogs report stressed this could amount to war crimes But for some US politicians Kiev's use of cluster bombs is justifiable I think that if we would've provided them with the weapons they need They wouldn't have had to use cluster bombs It's partially our fault It's the same thing. It's a repeat! It's our fault by the way. We wouldn't have to give him cluster bombs if we'd given more of everything else than what this guy from Washington said. Except that was 2015 and McCain was still alive. Yeah, okay let's listen to Jake Sullivan. What a bunch of douchebags running our country

05:01 Well, now there's an astute observation. First we base our security assistance decision on Ukraine's needs on the ground They got needs on the ground baby! And Ukraine needs artillery to sustain its offensive and defensive operations Artillery is at the core of this conflict Ukraine is firing thousands around a day To defend against Russian efforts to advance and also to support it own efforts to retake its sovereign territory We have provided Ukraine with a historic amount of unitary artillery rounds Unitary artillery rounds doesn't sound like anything good and we are ramping up, you know Unitary what he means is single single. Yeah not cluster but he has to use the word unity whatever it was Unitary artillery bombs and we are ramping optimistic production of these rounds. Ah, we've already seen substantial increases in production

05:57 But this process will continue to take time and it will be critical to provide Ukraine with a bridge of supplies While our domestic there is ramped up We will not leave Ukraine defenseless at any point in this conflict. Okay, so because And we shouldn't even have these things I guess because you know It's mean to kill people in different ways, you know unitary killing fine cluster killing Not good So they've got all these excuses and the main one is, well we're out of ammo. Sorry! I hope no one wants to attack us. Second Russia has been using cluster munitions since the start of this war to attack Ukraine. Oh... Russia's been using cluster munition with high dud or failure rates between 30-40%. High dud? Here we go again. High dud?! In this environment Ukraine has been requesting cluster munitions in order to defend its own sovereign territory

06:52 The cluster munitions that we would provide have dud rates far below what Russia is doing, is providing. Not higher than 2.5%. Wait a minute! It was 1%, now it's 2.5%? I think we have a dud rate issue here... What is our actual dud rate? I think this should be the topic of conversation for the entire week. And third, we are closely coordinating with Ukraine as it has requested these munitions. Ukraine is committed to post-conflict demining... This is pathetic! Say what?! I'm just saying... What? This whole discussion and the depth of it is pathetic. These things should be... We're like one of two or three countries in the world that refuse to sign a treaty that's never used these weapons because they're junk

07:38 And they're bad for civilian populations and the dud rate, no matter what it is there's a bunch of duds over there people step on like mines. Well this isn't... Go ahead. And? What? No you were saying AND! Oh I said it oh did I get cut off yeah I guess so ah good Ukraine is committed to post-conflict demining efforts to mitigate any potential harm to civilians and this will be necessary regardless of whether the United States provides these munitions or not because of Russia's widespread use of cluster munitions. They use cluster munitions so we can use cluster munitions there's a lot of information going on about these cluster munitions here CBS terrifying lethal and

08:25 highly effective. Ukraine is no stranger to cluster bombs. Both sides have been accused of deploying them since Russia launched its invasion, but they did it first with devastating effect! It's a weapon that breaks up midair as it approaches its target ejecting a number of smaller explosives or bomblets scattering indiscriminately across an area that can stretch to the size of several football fields Most of those explosives detonate, but not all. Posing a threat to the civilian population long after the war has ended especially children Here in Kharkiv investigators have built a mountain of Russian munitions and evidence of their use as civilian areas Evidence! These are just some of the Russian cluster bombs that have been recovered here in the Kharkiv region And this... Dude are we in middle school?

09:22 I mean that's what... Look, I have evidence that they used the bomblets so we can use the bomblets. As an example of a detonated bomblet which would have been packed with explosives Somehow bomblets just doesn't sound like it could take your leg off or anything does it? It's like yes its a bomblet! It's like an omelet with a meat. Each one of them is a hand grenade basically. Ukraine says it needs the help in a stalled counter-offensive against entrenched Russian troops backing the White House. Stop the clip! How come this isn't being discussed more? I didn't hear it was a stalled counter offensive, it was stalled... Because they were waiting for the bomblets. The dud rate was too high

10:08 Stalled this is bull because they told us it was well underway Part of the drones was part of the offensive Then the remember that crazy That crazy brigade that all sudden had a media event And all the journalists. Not Wagner? No, no that wasn't Wagner it was... There was some other brigade you're right Asimov! No, no, no it was yet another! Isaac Asimov. The Asimov guys are gone there's nothing left of them. Ukraine says it needs the help in a stalled counter-offensive against entrenched Russian troops, backing the White House's argument that the use of controversial weapons is on Ukraine's watch.

10:54 Ukraine would not be using these munitions in some foreign land. This is their country they're defending, these are their citizens they're protecting." The prosecutor's office told us tonight that Ukrainian military will have to do all it can to avoid their use in urban areas now this latest aid package 800 million dollars brings the US total to more than 41 billion dollars since the invasion began. Now bullcrap I'm sick and tired of these numbers I've counted over 140 billion. This is not true! Oh, now it's only 40? No! We've been giving them so much. It's 37 and it says 800 million a pop. It's bomblets that we got... Dudraider 1... What do we have? A bunch of stockpile these things what are we doing with them well NBC meet the press had a two-parter. Courtney explain to me what about these cluster bombs make them so controversial and how soon can you see them in Ukraine Well unlike other bombs these kill people

11:56 So it's the dud rate is really the problem here. That's why so many nations, more than a hundred have actually outlawed these munitions What that means is these are ammunition that when it explodes It releases a bunch of small little bombs or munitions they're often called bomblets They have two main missions. One is anti-armor... I'd like a truck stop bomblet, please? So it's a shape charge that essentially can pierce an up armored vehicle the other is anti-perm... Ooh! That's a new term and up armored vehicle not just armored vehicle an up armoured vehicle this is some this is some warfare talk we're getting here from NBC meet the press. Two main missions one is anti-armor so it's a shape charge that essentially can pierce an up armored vehicle, the other is anti personnel that is what we often hear military talking about frags or fragmentation those are the munitions that explode into even smaller pieces

12:51 Think about that when it impacts a body, Ryan. Of course it has the potential to injure or kill anyone in its path so these munitions when they release these bomblets depending on the type of cluster munitions some of them have a very high dud rate meaning that the bomblets don't immediately explode These have the potential to cause catastrophic destruction to someone, a civilian even a child who may stumble upon them Oh, hold on a second. NBC meet the press hold the press bomblets might be bad for children's health. Weeks months even years later that's one of the reasons that human rights groups and many nations have condemned the use of these sorts in the battlefield I should say The US says that the version they're going to send has very low dud rates somewhere in the neighborhood 1.5

13:44 to about two and a half percent. What is it? As opposed to some of the other ones that we've seen, according to the US, the ones that the Russians are using have somewhere in the neighborhood of 30-40%. Russian bomblets are crap! Alright? They're the dangerous... The Russians don't know what they're doing. They make... Yeah, crap. The bomblets are turning the frags gay. I mean this is an insane discussion they're having, they're just cavalierly discussing a weapons that are outlawed by 100 countries but you know It's for Ukraine! Yeah, and Courtney you mentioned that there are other countries who are opposed to the use of this type of weapon. Some of them are NATO countries and of course the president is going to be with some of these NATO countries next week will he get some pushback from these countries? No because he has a 100% dud rate it's no problem decision

14:34 And not just NATO countries, but I mean we're talking about the closest US allies who are part of NATO who are opposed to the use of these weapons. Now, the U.S., before they announced this today, they spoke to most of these countries many of them They reached out They gave them a heads up that this was coming The officials have been speaking to here say look the country These these allies have said there against the use But they don't expect any widespread public push back on it. There's a real recognition here of exactly what we heard from President Biden just moments ago, that Ukraine needs ammunition. These have the ability to essentially fill a bridge where the Ukraine right now has a real deficit in artillery rounds particularly 155 rounds this will be something that they can use in that place while the US and other nations really ramp up production of their artillery rounds so they can keep you in the fight

15:23 155 rounds. Now, can you shoot the bomblets? The cluster bombs from the same 155 millimeter cannon? Seems unlikely. What do you... Oh wow! These look bad these are the Howitzers. The 155 Yeah, the 155 that's the one that if you invested before the war you'd have made a lot of money And so cluster shells I wonder what the... Can you shoot those out Uh, doesn't really say. It's a bomb it's not a shell! Okay so you shoot it like a mortar? I don't... Well this is just disturbing this is disturbing we are the biggest A-holes in the universe right now do we not see that?! I mean we see it but man this is just bad! I have a series of clips Is this the gal stuff? No no oh okay

16:28 No. No? Good. Uh, Galilu... That's good but that guy doesn't do it. There is a series of Ukraine clips Oh okay good This guys name is Shaheed Bolson Actually Shaheed King Bolson I want to read about him before I play these clips Because this guy is an operative for someone I don't know who He's an asset or something I dunno I can't figure out because when you listen to him he sounds like a Middle East expert He has a Twitter account Just saying. Well, let's just listen to the first clip and then I'll explain who this guy is. This Ukraine analysis Shahid 1 Let me talk for a moment about Poland in relation to the US proxy war against Europe popularly known as The Ukraine War As i've stated since the outbreak of the war

17:18 In my opinion, the Ukraine war is a US proxy war not against Russia but against Europe. It is the launchpad for a continent-wide destabilization project." that will create conflict zone conditions across Europe. It will divide the EU against itself, it will de-industrialize the continent and turn it into another laboratory for the imposition of severe neoliberal austerity policies that will wipe out all except the largest private sector players and basically refutilize Europe. Now Poland appears to have been selected by the United States to act as their hub of operations for implementing this program. But before I get into that,

18:03 Let's go back to one of the earliest examples of this type of project. The dirty wars in Central and South America in the 1980s When I was growing up, I was always interested in the news and current affairs and world events and so on And the evening news every night Was dominated by stories of savagery In places like Nicaragua El Salvador Guatemala and Argentina Civil Wars Death squads abductions, torture and all forms of brutality proliferated the entire region. Now all of this was orchestrated out of the American Embassy in Honduras under the management of then US Ambassador John Negroponte whom locals referred to as Mr. Death Squad. Honduras had the largest U.S. embassy, it had the biggest CIA station and the country became the staging ground for a regional destabilization project that continued throughout the 1980s

19:01 Wow, okay. All right hold on I'm just gonna give it to you up front because I know what's gonna happen here I could just give it to you right upfront this is dynamite this of course It's so obvious now This is a complete destabilization Of Europe and we're going to squash them like a bug like a bumblebee EU as our friend Newland said oh goodness if we go back to that and we listen to this clip when we listened the FDU we start to understand what might actually be going on. and Victoria Nuland was caught with, well was recorded at high quality. Very high quality by the Russians obviously! On a phone call where she was talking to her compatriot who I think was... Was he the ambassador at the time? Not sure ambassador but they were discussing you know oh we gotta put in yeah Klitsch now Klitsch is no good we got that guy in here we can have Biden come out here and bless the deal he'll kiss the babies it'll all be good Biden Biden We got the Biden coming

20:20 And then it was like, well you know they're not gonna like what we're doing the EU but and then she just said that fuck the EU. And there you have it! With great disdain Yes should we play that clip again? It might be in there somewhere Well now I know of course I could find it Newland here we go for a little bit until we're tired of it. troubles in the marriage right now so we're trying to get a read really fast on where he is. Listen to these terms they use, We're in play! Yeah like we got a little trouble here on the marriage because they just did this it's like shotgun wedding when were fusing everything together handing out cookies

21:16 But I think your argument to him, which you'll need to make. I think that's the next phone call we want to set up is exactly the one you made to Yatsen. And I'm glad you said... That's Yatsen Yerke who later did become prime minister for a moment. ...put him on the spot on where he fits in this scenario and i'm very glad he said what he says in response Oh, we should also mention that Klitschko is currently the mayor of Kiev. Good! So I don't think Klitschko should go into the government. I don't think it's necessary and it's a good idea. Yeah so just make it not happen? That's how democratically elected countries work. Victoria Nuland says I don't think he should go in and he doesn't. He's not agreeing by the way

22:03 You think, in terms of him not going into the government just let him sort of stay out and do his political homework and stuff. I'm just thinking in terms of sorta the process moving ahead we wanna keep the moderate democrats together The problem is gonna be Tony Bok and his guys No Tony Bok And you know I'm sure that's part of what Yanukovych is calculating on all this Yanukovych was, was that the guy they were putting in or the guy who's going out? I can't remember where Yanukovych is. I think it was the guy who's going out. I think Yats is the guy whose got the economic experience and governing experience he's you know what he needs is a cleach and tonny book on the outside He need to be talking to them four times a week Yeah she now actually not just putting people into government but arranging their agenda

22:54 doing their calendar for them. This is the democratic country that we're saving for democracy I just think Kleech going in, he's gonna be at that level working for Yatsenyuk. It's just not gonna work. No, not gonna work. What do you think John? Not gonna work... I think just now. Let him just do his political homework on the outside! Good well if you want us to try and set up a call with him here is your next step My understanding from that call, but you tell me was that the big three were going into their own meeting and That yachts was going to offer in that context a car three-way. You know for 3 plus 1 conversation or 3 plus 2 with you

23:39 Is that not how you understood it? No, I think...I mean that's what he proposed. But I think just knowing the dynamics its been with them where Klitschko has been a top dog He is going to take awhile for whatever meeting they've got and he probably talking his guys at this point so I think your reaching out directly to him helps with the personality management among the three This is literally how we used to pitch like, you know, Gillette Alright, you talk to your guy and I'll talk to my guy and you work him from the back end. We'll get the big three or maybe 3 plus 2 we will get them into a meeting with the PowerPoint and then it will be good to go. And it gives us also a chance to move fast on all this stuff and put us behind it

24:20 before they all sit down and he... Oh yeah, let's move fast before they figure out how we've hoodwinked them. He explains why he doesn't like it This is good to review I can see there are trolls who have never heard this recording Well this was in 2014 so it's a bit... It's like nine years ago Okay, good. I'm happy why don't you reach out to him and see if he wants to talk before or after? All right how do we put a bulb on this Vicky how do we wrap this all up? We'll do it thanks okay i've now written oh one more wrinkle for you Jeff Oh wrinkle wrinkle stand by Jeff I got a wrinkle yeah

24:56 I can't remember if i told you this or only told Washington this. Yeah, because you know your not in the loop on everything Jeff just so you know When I talked to Jeff Feltman this morning he had a new name for the UN guy Robert Sary did I write that this morning? yeah I saw that He's now gotten both Sari and Ban Ki-moon to agree that Sari could come in Monday or Tuesday. Oh, that's right! They had Ban Ki-moon in on the deal The Secretary General of the UN said you know we'll bless the deal Ban Ki-moon will come in That guy is half dead anyway Just... they didn't even speak English just let him mumble Okay So that would be great, I think to help glue this thing and have the UN help glue it. Yeah! Have the UN help glue it because thats whats good Glue...Glue It And you know fuck the EU Yeah! There is exactly and we've got do something to make it stick together Exactly Now lets just go back for a second so she's saying

25:49 We'll have the UN glue it because clearly the United European Union is like, what are you guys doing in our backyard? This is not so cool. So we're going to have this thing glued for the whole world and fuck you! Fuck you EU! Answer if I only told Washington this that when I talked to Jeff Feltman... Wait wait wait When she said fuck the EU I think she was specifically saying we're gonna have the UN do it and fuck EU meaning we're by, we're skipping them. Yes, bypassing them! And anything that they have to say about it Yeah because the UN greater than sign EU This morning he had a new name for the UN guy Robert Sari did I write you that this morning? yeah I saw that He's now gotten both Sari and Ban Ki-moon to agree that Sari could come in Monday or Tuesday okay

26:42 So that would be great, I think to help glue this thing and have the UN help glue it. And you know... Fuck the EU! No, exactly. And I think we've got to do something to make it stick together because you can be pretty sure that if it does start to gain altitude the Russians will be working behind the scenes. Oh! It's going to gain altitude? Alright bring in Biden. Try and torpedo it and again the fact that this is out there right now...I'm still trying to figure out why Yanukovych did that but at the meantime there's a Party of Regions faction meeting going on right now lively argument going on in that group at this point but uh... anyway we could uh... we could land jelly setup on the square if we move fast so they work on i work on coach ko and if you can just keep i think we want to try to get somebody with international personality too

27:32 come out here and help to midwife this thing. Oh, someone with international personality needs to come out and midwife this thing! The other issue is some kind of outreach to Yanukovych but we probably regroup on that tomorrow as we see how things start to fall into place So on that piece, Jeff when I wrote the note Sullivan's come back to me VFR saying you need Biden and I said probably tomorrow. Sullivan? Jake Sullivan by any chance anybody you think? Yeah has to be. Jake Sullivan yeah he's got Biden he's got Biden yeah he's got the 100% dud. The midwife is saying then the other issue is some kind of outreach to Yanukovych but we'll probably regroup on that tomorrow as we see how things start to fall into place

28:13 So on that piece, Jeff. When I wrote the note Sullivan's come back to me via far saying you need Biden and I said probably tomorrow for an attaboy in it get the deets to stick. Oh, Biden will come out for an attaboy and get the deeds to sick. Yeah, great. Okay. Thanks. All right. Good work. Good work. No agenda. You know, agenda show has the has receipts people You know, this is so scandalous and it was played by...it was played up zero by the media. Zero! Well she used an expletive on a call you know we can't play the expletive because she said a bad word It's not about that people listen to what they're doing What they did? They did it

28:57 Everybody there. You gotta give him kudos for that! It's the same people, they had Lady G., they had McCain who was the CIA director everybody was in there to do this and it was just part of... Yeah Brennan was there. And now Vicky is back you know she's not I think she's now if not has been or will be the deputy Secretary of State again and she's here to finish the job And Europe, you're screwed. F the EU! You're screwed! Let me read some more about this. This is Shaheed King-Bolson who's talking about Poland being the crux of this whole thing I'm glad we played that by the way and this is interesting he's an Al Qaeda operative Oh well sure why not? First affiliate to the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood Those two don't really necessarily mix but okay so that's kind of suspicious Wasn't it the Muslim Brotherhood wasn't that Obama's guys

29:54 Yeah, I think so. And the start of 2015 multinational corporations for an own base he goes on and on he is Let me find where it was. Born Shannon Morris in Boulder, Colorado in 1971 he was raised as a Catholic by his mother after their father abandoned the family to pursue a screenwriting career in California and this guy's family would later recall that even as a young man Shannon was deeply troubled by social injustice and the gap between America's rich and poor. Oh, that's it! So his name is now Shaheed? He went from Shannon Morris to Shaheed King Bolson I'm calling you John-Eed and I'm Ah-Heed okay? That's who it... Hello Jah-Heed

30:46 So it goes on and on. Ann Arbor, there's a bunch of connections is a very interesting article if anyone can find it It's in the weekly blitz dot net A backgrounder on this guy And the guy is extremely suspicious and he's really good at analysis so let's go to part two of his clip When John Negroponte was appointed the US ambassador to Iraq shortly after the invasion and occupation I fully anticipated that he would pursue the same sort of destabilization project throughout the Middle East. Now, Negroponte had a protege named Robert Stephen Ford who was appointed the US ambassador to Syria at that time and he immediately began trying to foment rebellion and opposition and resistance in recruiting militia groups until he was eventually kicked out of the country I think we're all aware

31:39 what happened a few short years later in the Arab world with the Arab Spring and we're all aware also I think of the role played by CIA backed organizations in that disruptive movement. And, I think were also all aware of the role played by the CIA in backing armed groups in the civil war in Syria In fact during the Arab Spring The United States tried to appoint Robert Stephen Ford after he'd been kicked out of Syria they tried to appoint him as the US ambassador to Egypt but fortunately His reputation and the reputation of John Negroponte preceded them, and popular opposition to that appointment forced the US to scrap the idea. So the point here is that there is a pattern, and once you are familiar with the pattern, you can recognize it... And you can sort-of abstractly predict the way its going to play out if not specifically Well in the current scenario, in my opinion Poland is Honduras Near the beginning of the war in Ukraine I noticed the role being played by Poland

32:36 as a destination for refugees and as a source for mercenaries to go in fight in Ukraine. So I decided to check who is the US ambassador to Poland right now? Well, the U.S. Ambassador to Poland right now is not Robert Stephen Ford and it's not John Negroponte or any of their known protegees The current U.S. Ambassador to Poland is The Sun of one of the most notorious policy advisors in recent US history, Zbigniew Brzezinski. And I'm not going to make any effort to say his name correctly. Brzezinski who was Polish was the architect of U.S support for the Mujahideen in Afghanistan against the Soviet Union and he was a staunch and paranoid anti-Russian zealot Wait a minute... It is? it's Mark Brzezinski!

33:26 Oh man, how did we miss this? Did we know this? I think we may have noticed it some time back but i think we didn't make it in this connection. We didn't make THIS connection And is he not married to or boyfriend girlfriend with that horrible woman? Yeah because... Yes when... Horrible woman Well I mean I know That's kind of an open thing there isn't it Oh, Brzezinski. No way! This is atrocious with all the shills are in place. Yeah Who was he? He is Samantha... not Samantha what's her name? Not Samantha Powers not another guy Applebaum, Applebaum. He's friends with Applebaum. Oh Applebaum oh Annie Because he's divorced he's twice divorced not saying that something that doesn't happen

34:20 Is he with Applebaum? Okay, well let's continue with the clips. I'm doing the research over here on the Applebaum. And so onward with... Now the question that occurs is why did this analysis even get out there? There's something up with that and i haven't figured that part out yet and the Shaheed character again is another mystery but let's go on with Part 3. Now Brzezinski felt that the disintegration of the EU was inevitable and that only the perception of a threat being posed by Russia could possibly induce the Europeans to act in unison. I think a united Europe came into being out of fear, I think that entity is now on its way to disintegration because the fear is gone

35:07 There is a certain inevitability to that. Now if Putin starts another wave of Cold War unilateral actions, they'll probably all come back again." He also believed that there were several countries that had been admitted into the EU that never should have been admitted namely the Eastern Bloc countries and the Baltic states now I think it's safe to assume that Mark Brzezinski, the current US ambassador to Poland probably shares his father's views and he is now in charge of coordinating the destabilization program for Europe that will see the continent split right down the middle with America's focus of support moving from the Atlantic European states and the Central European states to the Eastern European States, with Poland as its primary client. Ironically

35:53 The US is using Brzezinski's theory that the Europeans need a Russian threat in order to act in unison. They're using that theory to coerce the European nations to be unified in the adoption of policies that will ultimately lead to the disintegration of Europe. Now, no doubt the US is dangling promises in front of Poland telling them that they will re-emerge as a major power after four centuries of irrelevance telling them that Germany is weakening both naturally and by design and that Poland can become not only the manufacturing hub

36:30 and heart of Europe, but also the strongest military power. They're even hinting that Poland can become a super state incorporating both Lithuania and Western Ukraine into their territory And just FYI The suspected St Petersburg bomber was born in Western Ukraine So they went to school together Ann and Mark They went to Saint Anthony's College in Oxford No, probably on a Rhodes scholarship. No doubt! Yeah he's the one that when the pipeline was blown up... The Nord Stream 2 He tweeted thanks good job Remember that? I vaguely remember that That is funny These people are crazy Okay this is good There's a lot of interesting stuff but if you think about this plan This scheme

37:29 which goes back to pre-2014, because you had to get this Ukraine thing started. If this scheme goes back as far as it probably did it might be an extra explanation for Brexit Because the British were part of Five Eyes and they would know that if this scheme was underfoot to bust up the EU and just make a mess out of it Kind of just scramble it. Well, this is... You have to get out! This is succeeding They're succeeding with this. Yeah, well I'll tell you why in a minute but let's get the final piece here Let's get the final clips and then he also goes on after this with some more stuff but then it's just discorderating the US and bitching and moaning about stuff It goes into a Muslim rant But this wraps it So based on all of these promises In my opinion Poland is willingly doing America's dirty work which after all they've actually been doing for quite some time

38:31 As a result of embracing their role as destabilizing client state of the US, Poland will likely become police state and this is already happening with American soldiers running amok in the country. and Polish police telling their citizens that they have no right to arrest them. And the same is likely to happen in the other Eastern Bloc and Baltic states where America is shifting its focus, they will be tightly controlled by American influence and they will be encouraged distance themselves from the EU and even form their own economic insecurity block which again we already see happening Poland will potentially become militarily engaged in the war in Ukraine against Russia as well as potentially

39:13 in Belarus and unquestionably covert disruption activities in both Moldova and Georgia, and elsewhere will be originating from the US Embassy in Warsaw. So this is just to give you a sort of geopolitical framework for what's happening in Europe and Poland's role in that, in what is a repeating pattern by the U.S.. Okay! So, what just happened this past week in one of the countries that is under attack by Brzezinski and his band of Biden criminals?

39:51 is the Dutch government. In The Hague, crowds gathered outside the Prime Minister's office at the Binnenhof. The Netherlands' longest-serving leader resigned from his fourth term in office because of disagreements over immigration between coalition partners So it's not immigration It's literally asylum seekers from war i.e., from Ukraine Today, unfortunately we have to conclude that those differences are irreconcilable. That is why I will immediately offer the resignation of the entire cabinet to the King in writing and will also send a copy of that request for dismissal to the House of Representatives."

40:31 Since January 2022, Mark Rutte has led a coalition government comprising four parties from the right and centre. For months the government had been trying to find an agreement on reducing the flow of migrants entering the country this week The Prime Minister tried to push through your plan to restrict family reunification for refugees in the Netherlands The plan included a cap on the number of relatives of war refugees allowed into the country, but two of the four-party coalition were not prepared to further tighten policy for asylum seekers. Mark Rutte's resignation opens a period of uncertainty for the Dutch.

41:11 So, at hand a very interesting case. They have a coalition of four parties two big ones two smaller ones and Rytte with the other big one they said well you know we really want to restrict children of war refugees from I mean where else could they come from but from Ukraine? We want to restrict them so you know he can't bring them in which sounds like a real dick move And then, you know the two smaller parties went well that's a dick move so oh well I guess we can't figure it out so let's all resign. Here's a better report from a Dutch guy on Instagram. Hi guys, here is Dutt Wigge I said that i'm not going to make any videos or post anything but something big has happened in the Netherlands The cabinet Mark Rutte has resigned about the problems they had about all the migrants that were supposed to come to the Netherlands and now they resigned there's a big sign people I think...I was talking to my friend in United States and he said

42:13 In a couple of days, Macron will go and then the government of Germany will go and then Europe will collapse. It's finished! Keep on praying that all those Klaus Schwab assholes are gone and we'll be put to trial for what they have done with all the people in this country. So say it to the world please For what please this video, Mark Rutte is cabinet of the Netherlands has resigned. It's fallen it's finished it's gone So he sees it or at least he sees a version of it by saying oh no What I understand is Macron will be gone which we'll talk about I guess now and and the Germans will be gone And the whole thing's gonna fall apart, and then we're gonna put up We're going to hang up the World Economic Forum a-holes. I'm not so sure that's gonna happen But I like his spunk

43:06 So we have France, we have France falling apart. This is our doing when I say our it's American politicians and diplomats who have been working this. And it has been going on for a while obviously pre-COVID obviously pre 2014 now what is the goal? Rubbilization Yeah. What else? That's what we do! We're the rubbalizers, baby. Well what is the goal is complete financial dominance and the bankers never... Brother banks you know your banker friend said this was a fait accompli some time back. So in 2008

43:57 It was a war and he said, and I just remember him saying we won. We won! We beat the European banks. We won! And he still speaks of winning. We're winning now. No, we're winning. With that it only means against the European Central Bank and the European banks in general. Obviously the Bank of England broke that one a long time ago So I'm sure that, you know it was annoying the whole European...the whole Euro project. Annoying! Annoying, annoying, annoying and since we have the bricks getting together and they keep threatening a gold-backed currency they're all gonna use yeah it's not that simple. And then it is not going to work? I don't know if it'll work or not but it's just not that simple

44:42 You know, it sounds good on paper. Oh yeah! We'll just put together a currency and everybody will use it but to crush the euro especially by bringing in Fifi Lagarde globalist you know she may look French she may speak French but she's a globalist She comes from the IMF we know where she is from so now she's going to run the European Central Bank into the ground But then we just have some irritating little people like I think Rutte, he was told to fold. This doesn't seem like they had to collapse the government over this issue

45:23 No, I don't think so either. And Macron of course is under... he's gonna get ready to get rid of him He's under a real attack But you sent me that article that i put in the show notes or that cable The diplomatic cable Yeah it was a cable that was on wikiLeaks and had to be archived in Iceland It's quite interesting as in the show notes and this is an old memo during the Clinton era of Secretary of State. No, it's 2010! It's Obama. Okay yeah, Clinton that's what I meant. Oh, Clinton state department? Yes of course and it outlines the methodology used to subvert society in France mainly

46:13 and I guess other countries, and it's pretty much to implement the diversity integral whatever the D.I.E thing the D.E.I., whatever it is called... Oh yeah! And going after youth groups with great vigor, riling them up there are all kinds of crazy terms in that cable like we're gonna organize the youth and will show those Frenchies those Frenchies don't know how to do it It's designed to destabilize the country Very much so. It was a very interesting series of memos that were picked up you can see why I mean those kinds of things but WikiLeaks is still laced with tons of cool stuff it's been scattered all over the world and let me read from it little bit yeah, so this is the from the American Embassy from Ambassador Rivkin 2010

47:07 We believe that if France over the long run does not successfully increase opportunity and provide genuine political representation for its minority populations, France could become a weaker more divided country. Perhaps more crisis prone and inward looking and consequently a less capable ally as is witnessed by his cozying up to China and not participating in the Ukraine gambit." Right! And then there's you know this crisis of representation in France, so you know the racist a-holes. Strategy for France our aims the overarching goal of our minority outreach strategy is to engage the French population at all levels in order to help France to realize its own egalitarian ideals again democracy

47:54 We're doing a good job. Our strategy has three broad target audiences in mind, one the majority especially the elites yeah we'll buy them off two minorities with the focus on their leaders that's right they go into the mosques and three the general population employ the seven tactics described below engage in positive discourse set a strong example launch aggressive youth outreach aggressive encourage moderate voices, propagate best practices. Best price! Deepen our understanding of the problem integrate target and evaluate our efforts This is France this is not some dusty desert

48:40 Why are we but why when did we become the bud inskies of the world where we're gonna go to France a historically highly cultured country and tell and then manipulate them To get what? We want. I mean, I think it's I guess it's our job to manipulate everybody to get what we want But it's subversive And if would you have to admit to it I'm getting caught left and right. That memo should have never been... We shouldn't be reading that memo on our show, A. And B we shouldn't have ever had that Victoria Nuland call and the fact that all this stuff is pretty much out in the open it's not being picked up by the mainstream media is disgusting! Well that's why we're-that's why we are

49:27 The best podcast in the universe. We are what we is, we am what we is! If you know, you know exactly. Hey so with the Netherlands... You have a decommissioned cabinet So they stay on and they just kind of keep the seats warm and they'll have elections In the fall now What's gonna happen before they even get their elections going which will be November I guess In October, this is when FIFI has promised us the digital euro. I mean i may be getting ahead of myself here but yeah who knows? Who knows! I got a clip they gotta do something. I want you to... This is an Ask Adam. Oh goodness. This is the head of Estonia, the female leader. I think she's the prime minister or the president and this is an ask

50:22 She's gonna be talking about something. I want you to tell me what she's talking about Okay, dear fellas. I'm really sorry not to be able to be there with you in person What is the first name? She said dear what she said dear fellas Oh dare fellows their fellows I'm really sorry not to be able to be there with you in person for the first ever NATO summit in Vilnius But I will be following in your footsteps in a few days when NATO leaders meet As a proud honorary fellow, I want to send my greetings to you and wish the most based NATO summit possible. As I've said before the aggressor must be defeated... Did she say most based NATO summit? No she said most based NAFO summit! Okay well that's so some countries say NAFO others say NATO but she said based... NO! What no yes? In Holland it is NAFO

51:20 NAFO is a completely different organization. Look it up in the Wikipedia after you listen to the rest of the clip. As proud honorary fellow, I want to send my greetings to you and wish you the most base NAFA summit possible! As I've said before, the aggressor must be defeated on the battlefield. But Russia is also waging a war against our democracies – an energy war, cyberwar and information war. Democracies need to take steps to defend themselves in all these areas as well holding the line to defend a world where rules still apply and where technology works for not against democratic societies

52:01 You are all a living example of this, fighting Russian disinformation and bad takes with good humor, intelligence and enthusiasm. Behind every fellow is a real person! You are volunteering your time and energy because you believe in Ukraine's victory I thank you for all your support to Ukraine as well as the Baltic Sea region AND Estonia And thank you for all your support to me personally. It really, really warms my heart! So what more to say than keep fighting the good fight because NATO expansion is non-negotiable.

52:51 This is NAFO, you're right. N-A-F-O North Atlantic Fella Organization Yeah and she's a fella She's a fella that's right And they combat disinformation They use the same logo as NATO Yep It's only just started in 2020. This is a joke! This is some millennials that were in government, that came up with this idiocy and they suckered all these morons and she's one of them They're using the Shiba Inu dog And they use that stupid dog The Doge Dog The Doge Dog as their logo This is wrong Which is also a pedophile

53:36 Signed according to some people on the no agenda social anyway The whole thing is wrong Well, she said when she said based I knew something was up. I don't care what you say well You're using base as a politician. You're not a politician. I don't know who this who she is but She's they had just a hunch of Estonia which is a stooge country for us and What is she doing? Very high tech. What is she doing wasting her time at the NAFO? Well, she didn't go to it. She just gave a video. A based video! She's based! So she gave the video and then she's going to go to the actual NATO conference in a couple of days This is so great It's unbelievably stupid Yeah Geez... well now Top that! I can't really top it with only one other piece of Dutch news

54:37 which is the winner of Miss Netherlands 2023, announced on Saturday night in a televised... you know this will be part of the Miss Universe competition. And it is Ricky Collet, A Dude! Told ya I could top it! A 7 foot tall dude won He's seven foot tall? Yes. Well, he is a big dude! Very tall dude very tall and I do not believe this is a completely transitioned person. I believe it is a transvestite. I'm not 100% sure and I don't really care

55:29 Now, this Ricky is a combo Dutch Molucker. And Molucker... I haven't heard Moluckers in a long time! I haven't heard them either and don't even remember that Well the Moluckers are the ones who were hijacking the trains in the 70s in Holland Do you remember that? Oh, I do not remember any of that Because they were all pissed off This was part of the DEI agenda in The Netherlands because everyone's vying for money now now that the King has said You know we're a bunch of racists we ship the slaves, go us!" And now they got museas and all kinds of stuff. You know? Oh no! We're a bunch of racists that were gonna make up for it by naming this guy Miss Netherlands. That's pretty much how it went. Does that help our cause? How do you feel about reparations?! There you go... there are reparations. Take that malacquers

56:19 Oh man, oh man. And not that attractive with a huge overbite can scrape flies off the wall I'm sorry! I mean i just got to be a television producer here for moment The profile is not a good look Look it up! I don't really want to but I'll take your word for it No you need to see this overbite Okay, just look at miss Netherlands. Just look at you have to hold on I gotta get a browser up and I'm going not to mention it I just don't You don't even have your doing you've been doing the show for almost an hour And you haven't don't even have a browser up. I don't what kind of podcaster are you?

57:00 I know it makes no sense. Are you still in your pajamas? What kind of a podcast doesn't have a browser running and he's constantly looking at stuff? You gotta do that stuff man! Look at him get ISS Palumbo Netherlands what oh, I see what happened. What are you doing? It's Ricky Valerie Decaulay Oh. Wow, Ricky R-I KKIE of course makes nothing but sense. R I K K I E. Miss Netherlands come on! There she is Don't say she Well if i just saw a picture the way that one that showed up I would say that's a she Yeah but now look at the profile look it look at that overbite I mean look I put a lot of money into my mouth now so I feel like have some standing

57:50 Get your face fixed. She is extremely tall and again I say she because i have no evidence to contrary, and uh... I don't have any profile shots. Okay. She looks very Hispanic. Malacca. Are they Hispanic? No. There's a picture with orange lipstick. Anyway, I knew I could top it. I knew I could top it. Well, yes is definitely Different I wanted before we leave the Europe analysis completely behind I want to do a one quick three-parter on Russian the coup oh Oh, yes that before you even start Did you see that they now have pictures of hotdog boys? penthouse

58:48 No, I don't know anything about Hot Dog Boy's penthouse. Oh yeah so they got pictures of his penthouse or his mansion or whatever and he's got like all kinds of wigs and disguises and weird things and he's got Illuminati checkered floors...I mean this guy is into some weird stuff! And now they're posting pictures of him in all these different get-ups and all these different disguises which are hilariously bad With like really bad wigs. The whole thing is bizarre. It doesn't even seem like he's really running anything Here, a peek into Pregozi's bizarre pad Among the findings were millions in cash and gold bars A disguised collection, a giant sledgehammer And a cache of guns and ammo

59:39 Well you could find guns and ammo in my house. The sledgehammer, yeah that's the one he was bashing people's heads with. That he'd be bashing heads with? Sure sure. This guy... He doesn't even exist! This this guy is an entirely made-up fictional character I'm convinced of it now. Well could be. It's just as good as any other stereotype. So i was listening so i wanted to get the clip somebody sent me the link and i put it off from the last show i want to get the clips of Kennedy on the media. Oh, I haven't heard that one yet of on the media has Bobby the K is what they're calling him now Bobby the K. Bobby the case on on the media and they do a takedown of course is very slanted to use loaded languages till it's

1:00:26 I think, from my perspective they're being sincere but they're being dishonest. But they don't know it and so they go...but in the process before they get to Kennedy they do a...they bring some guy on some expert you know they always have some expert on the media and they bring him on and he's uh he talks about the coup and it was kind of I don't know if it's inside or just a different approach, but I thought it was interesting enough. I'd get some clips and here we go with the coup, some background on the coup... On The Media is an NPR product? Yes, On The Media is a... Right. It's an NPR thing with this Brooke Gladstone who's being substitute hosted by some New York Times columnist girl. Girl. And it's supposed to be media decons... It's supposed to be what we do.

1:01:17 It's supposed to be deconstructing. Yeah, sure! Uh-huh? It's supposed to be deconstructing but all it does is that it just looks for anything that's a little right wing and then gets condemned. The last day or so has seen an extraordinary turn of events in Russia A week ago the world watched as Russian President Vladimir Putin's favorite fixer made a power play In the Russian city of Rostov Armed men and armor on the streets. Fogness found a Yudeni Prigoshin, he's calling for an armed rebellion? Prigoshin announced his army tens of thousands strong would revert... Oh they're doing super cuts now is that what they're doing did there really trying to do our format? They use the super cut as a prelude yeah it's kind of like their way of leading in

1:02:04 armed rebellion. Prigozhin announced his army, tens of thousands strong would reverse course backing out of Ukraine marching directly on Moscow Russian state TV threw a lot of commercial breaks as the rest of the world tried to figure out what was going on What's the latest that we have confirmed? So there is very little confirmed and utterly baffling But then, as quickly as the rebellion flared... It fizzled. The leader of the Wagner group, Yevgeny Prigoshin has ordered his mercenaries to turn around and return to their bases to avoid bloodshed he said Vladimir Putin began the day angrily denouncing an armed insurrectionist terrorist methods And now appears to have struck a deal with Prigoshin The Kremlin says it's dropped charges and Prigoshin will go to Belarus while promising his fighters contracts with the Russian military

1:03:02 It was not a coup because Grogoshin made his intention clear repeatedly. He was not trying to overthrow the government, he's not trying to seize power from Putin." Nani Halsing is the author of Seizing Power — The Strategic Logic Of Military Coups Back in 2016, he helped on the media create a breaking news consumers handbook—Military Coup Edition— after a failed attempt by the military to seize power in Turkey. He says what happened in Russia last week was less a coup than a mutiny. Oh, they got the mutiny! That's where it comes from! Remember we were talking over and over again about what are they talking about? Mutiny, mutiny, mutiny... It comes from this show and right there So you sure they're the originator of it? I'm pretty sure yeah because this is not brand new in their band it just all seems to stem from this guy Help me understand one thing

1:03:58 Now if you and I were producing on the media, and we've produced a lot of stuff in our time. First of all, make this girl spin around to make sure she's okay for the role. Hey adam at curry dot com! I'm just doing television producer stuff but it's radio. We would never... Why is she spinning around for radio? We would never choose this guitar music what's up with the Spanish guitar?! Why!? I mean it's royalty free, i get it but why? I think Hava Nagila is what I have played in the background. Okay sure Curry Dvorak for all your podcasts okay so this mutiny thing comes from this guy now while you're listening to this guy explain what a coup is and what a coup isn't because there's...I guess there's a bunch of he's the guy

1:04:50 I want you to also be thinking, at least in the back of your head everyone out there should be thinking about January 6th. That was a coup. The supposed coup and if you listen to these guys and you listen what they say about this and then you think about January 6th... January 6th was not even it was not an insurrection wasn't a coup it wasn't a mutiny It was a lousy, it was a poorly planned event But no hold on a second It was a jacked up crowd that was jacked up because there was about to be a vote taken inside the Capitol that could actually have stopped the certification of the vote. Let's just call it what it really was, That's why they let everybody in. Oh people are coming and we can't take this vote! That's what it was. Okay? So kind of like a mutiny, really. Well wasn't really like a mutiny at all

1:05:45 But let's listen now. We got two more parts of this and you can kind of hear this, it's like they're really looking for something here in this I don't know what it is they're looking for but it's kind of interesting. So there were some distinctions most mutinies are from the bottom which is to say if your average Russian conscript was to rise up against a the war or against their conditions of service. That would be a lot more typical, however this is not something which is unique what Purgosian did in fact there are other examples like an Ecuador or Argentina where you have generals or people who are in command of significant military forces who will mount an armed rebellion and use that force to attain a political objective it's just that in this case the political objective stops

1:06:36 just shy of the removal Did Purgosian do that? No, Purgosian did not. And it's one of the ways in which he avoids being accused of mounting a coup. He never says my intention is to take over. He never says I've already succeeded in taking over. In fact his first target is Rostov rather than Moscow. So this all seems like it's from the CIA playbook

1:07:19 his discussion of you know just saying I took it this is how we do a lot of things. I don't get the coup ribbon unless it's an actual coup so I know what a coup is okay and you need to have army leader, you need to have someone taking over has to be a political takeover which of course January 6th was not that was what that was worse than 9-11 That was worse than the Civil War but it was not a coup Yeah that was worst ever It was not a coup because it was poorly done Okay, so we'll finish this guy off. However, he does do half of it. If you're going to create a narrative that your seizure of power is a fait accompli—that your success is inevitable—the first half of doing that is that you have to demonstrate that the state is no longer in control and that's the part that Purgosian does too You warn that in case of a coup or mutiny each side is battling to seize the narrative

1:08:28 What are the competing narratives here? Wow, fire her! This is horrible. Do you think she's reading right in front of him with her head down just like just reading off the paper or was this inserted later It sounds like it's inserted later. That's a good question because you can't tell, it's so poorly done. Sounds inserted later. Each side is battling to seize the narrative what are the competing narratives here? You're seeing a lot more narratives inserted later. I think so. Battling to seize the narrative, what are the competing narratives here? You're seeing a lot more narrative creation now that things are over. Oh wait stop again another it's just for people who care about this kind of broadcasting crap the other thing is is that generally speaking on this show and some of the other shows they're doing it over satellite link and there's always a little delay that they never cut out

1:09:27 Really? They always leave a little... When I'm doing these clips, I am cutting stuff out constantly because of the lag. But help me understand how is it that NPR with all their resources and Neumann mics and beautifully soundproof rooms have to still resort to interviews over the satellite with delay where we're using a $20 clean feed account and it's fine! I've always wondered about some of these delays and Fox has them too. Fox is the worst, and they got the money. And just wasting cash man! The Fox delays on their satellite feed are 2-3-4 seconds. Now it is video so they're adding that but its ridiculous

1:10:13 It's ridiculous. Putin is trying to make it seem that Pugosian's activities were highly threatening to the state, but he was in control all along and that he still in control. Both sides want to create an impression, to create an understanding of what occurred

1:10:50 because of the consequences for their existing position. If Prygosian can make it seem like he came very close to succeeding, it'll make a little bit harder for people to assassinate him because if they assassinate him maybe his troops will rise up and maybe they'l overthrow the government. Yeah, so this is... That's far-fetched! Total CIA guy this. This is about narrative creation yeah this exactly what they're trying to do You think it's far-fetched? No, I think his thesis at the end is far fetched. Which is that oh Pregotion only did this so he won't get assassinated That is the logic of it. This guy...this guy is a ghost Well, I think this writer is working for somebody Yes! That's connected. I think you're right He knows how it works and speaking of narrative creation

1:11:50 Very surprising. And I have not seen this movie yet, Sound of Freedom? I think I talked about it on the last show and Mel Gibson promoted it. Sound of Freedom! This is a true story... It's based on a true story of a guy who went and made his job to go in and find children who had been abducted Now, again it's in theaters so I haven't seen it yet but it was outpacing everything this weekend. In the box office including Indiana Jones which is a multi hundred million dollar production and This Shall Not Stand all of a sudden this has become a QAnon movie for some reason and even Rolling Stone Okay so the guys who produced this

1:12:43 are this, and it's partially crowdfunded. It's Angel Studios from Dallas. This is the guy that did... Yeah your guys! Yes your guys! The Jesus Revolution he did The Chosen very successful Christian series and so you know they produce on a low budget people start loving it I think this is the second weekend that its out And all of a sudden, oh no this is QAnon. Jim Caviezel the guy who starred in it he's QAnon He's all QAnon conspiracy theory none of its true I mean just listen to how Rolling Stone treats this movie

1:13:23 Sounds of Freedom is a superhero movie for dads with brain worms. Okay, now that's funny but the QAnon tinge thriller about child trafficking is designed to appeal to the conscience of a conspiracy adult boomer Wow, I like that phrase. A conspiracy addled boomer. It's dynamized too long for a title but whoever put that one together gets it gets a couple of candy some suckers to suck on based on a true story the familiar words had appeared on the screen and an elderly man had taken upon himself to read them aloud to the rest of the sizable audience seated for a matinee showing of the anti-child trafficking thriller Sound Of Freedom starring Jim Caviezel

1:14:06 I think that's how you pronounce it. For the seasoned moviegoer, this phrase is a joke! We know that cinema will stretch almost any truth to the breaking point and the rank insincerity of such a pronouncement is the foundation of the prankish opening titles of Fargo. I think that this guy he played, oh this is best. The Caviezel best known for being tortured to death in Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ. You mean he played Jesus? Is that what you're saying? He was a guy who was in Person of Interest which was a long running TV thriller show it was quite good

1:14:49 And he's been in a lot of stuff and yes, he did play the Christ in that Gibson movie. No no! He played the guy best known for being tortured Not Jesus, not Jesus. No, not Jesus. Just some random torturer. Some dude who got tortured exactly. That's funny and good catch. Ballard himself... Heaven forbid we use the word Jesus Christ in our publication! We're dedicated atheists Sound of freedom lives up to its anticipation. It's a stomach-turning experience, fetishizing the torture of its child victims and lingering over lush preludes to their sexual abuse." It sounds to me just reading this and seeing Guardian articles that are very similar bent... I hear Washington Post—let me read this for a second—

1:15:47 The low-budget film about child sex trafficking almost topped the box office on July 4th, but its star Jim Caviezel has linked it to the QAnon movement. Well I have a clip...I have a clip too but i'd love to hear yours first Well, you're gonna have to use your search engine because it's from a couple shows ago. Okay? It's the adrenochrome clip with Jim Caviezel on Steve Bannon Show. For labor, for slave labor or is it adrenochrome? The whole adrenochrome empire that this is a big deal that's uh... It is listed under the NIH. It is a chemical compound. Its molecular structure C9H9NO3 and its an elite drug that they've used for many years. Ten times more potent than heroin

1:16:48 And it has some mystical qualities as far as making you look younger. There's that scene in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, I know we can figure out... No, no, I saw that! Why does MS-13 have the most advanced guns? You know why do we sit alone gangs have all... How come 110 thousand people died or disappeared in Mexico City?! Where did they go and they're starting pulling people out of body bags now You know, how... this is just insane. With our military, our special forces and we don't take care of this? You can't just have that demand unless somehow that's organized also 100% I believe Okay so the agents that i've spoken to all right here's here's it as for a barrel

1:17:33 of oil, $77 for a barrel of body parts and what's going to be adrenochrome all the plumes that are in the woman's mother's wombs. That goes from a plastic barrel that's 77000 now that gets sent into these bio labs. $77 dollars, $77 thousand dollars for Ukrainians have Russian bloodline and everything then I started looking up Then I started looking up this Azov battalion stuff. They're Nazis! So in this Washington Post, that's a good clip by the way... In this Washington Post article here it comes he is focused on one QAnon belief in particular while promoting Sound of Freedom The idea that child traffickers drain children's blood to harvest a life-giving substance called adrenochrome

1:18:26 Speaking to a QAnon affiliated conference in Oklahoma in 2021, the actor said Ballard wanted to join him but he's down there saving... this is the guy, the real guy. But he's down there saving children as we speak because they're pulling kids out of the darkest recesses of hell right now and all kinds of places. The adrenochroming of children The moderator asked him to elaborate. If a child knows he's going to die, his body will secrete this adrenaline, Caviezel said, his voice catching. These people that do it there'll be no mercy for them This is one of the best films I've done ever in my life This film is on Academy Award level In reality, this is back to Washington Post Adrenochrome is a relatively mundane chemical compound created by oxidizing adrenaline

1:19:14 Though the author Hunter S. Thompson portrayed it as a kind of super drug popular with pedophiles in fear and loathing in Las Vegas." Now, John you're the chemical engineer... You're the chemist I mean this adrenochrome- You can look it up on Wikipedia Adrenochromis there Yes? I have no idea Well It's just that I think is toxic I have no idea. I don't know what but anything about it, I think a lot of this is...I mean Hunter was a very creative person. I've met him a few times talked to him on the phone Thompson and really yeah lunch with them once with Hearst now did you have a nice cup of adrenochrome with Hunter?

1:20:06 No, he drinks... it was interesting. He drank for lunch he had a tall tumbler with no ice of Chivas. Oh wow! A nice lunch drink. And he always seemed, he was also at the Salmoner parties. He went to a couple of them, the Christmas party and he always had these girls around him. He seemed which now there's some evidence that one of them was um... A dude? His handler. Oh! But he always seemed kind of dingy so I don't know. So I think you made it up but The thing is i'm not so sure that the adrenochrome is even mentioned in the movie

1:20:50 No, I don't think it is. I can't wait to see it now! And by the way doesn't matter someone a troll points out quite correctly if people think it gives them superpower though they'll want it anyway Yes All I know is for the mainstream media to discredit this movie based upon this I think is disingenuous. They're probably covering for the studio, that's probably the biggest problem is whoever did Indiana Jones is losing their shirt you know that's not supposed to happen. That's not supposed to happen.

1:21:26 And you cannot deny that there's a lot of child trafficking and pedophilia. There is a lot of missing children, the number of missing children in the country is outrageous! So here's 85 thousand a year or something or more? So here CNN speaking so they have to pull it all to QAnon which QAnon what I remember QAnon was was a was QQ was posting pictures like dropping truths etc during bombs truth bombs and no truths And, you know, where we go one we all and whatever. But this discrediting of this movie which is clearly about child abduction and the child trafficking which is real

1:22:10 That's real. Why are they covering it up in such a drastic manner? Here is CNN, just for an example of it. You seem pretty familiar with him because he doesn't really hide his association with this real wild plot that involves drinking the blood of children and things like that No, he doesn't hide it at all. And you have a lot of people who are in this world of QAnon who say oh they don't know what that is they've never heard of it they're just asking questions with somebody like Jim Caviezel He's openly embracing and he's openly using its catchphrases and his concepts speaking at QAnon conventions and this film is being marketed to either specific QAnon believers or two people who believe all the same tenets as QAnon but claim they don't know what it is

1:22:57 And The Sound of Freedom does focus on a real issue of sex trafficking. But that theme, it's sort of like that kernel of truth that feeds the QAnon conspiracy theory. Tell us how those two things work together? So the kernel—hold on—the kernel of truth that children are trafficked, that's the kernel That feeds the QAnon conspiracy, therefore that movie's no good. Freedom does focus on a real issue of sex trafficking but that theme it sort of like that kernel truth that feeds the QAnon conspiracy theory tell us how those two things work together

1:23:39 Sure, and the most durable and the most believable conspiracy theories are not entirely false. There's something in them that is true And the rest of it is false But the believers point to the one truth thing and they say oh you don't believe that this particular thing Is true terms of child trafficking we know trafficking Israel? We know it has real victims No one is denying that but these films are created out of moral panics They're created out of bogus statistics They're created out of fear, and with something like Sound of Freedom it specifically is looking at QAnon concepts of these child trafficking rings that are run by the high-level elites. And only people like Tim Ballard and only people like Jim Caviezel—and by extension only people like The Ticket Buyer can help bring these trafficking rings down so there's a very participatory element

1:24:25 You're not just going to see a movie, you're just killing two hours on a hot day. You are helping bring down these pedophile rings and save children." Now it's not true but its very comforting and its very warm feeling to have. Wow! Way to bring... First of all this movie is going to be one the biggest box office of all times now. Yeah with that kind of promotion? And so how come- I was not interested in this movie and now I want to see it. Yes! How is it that this is a problem, this movie about child trafficking is a problem but THIS IS OKAY! I've always wanted to be able to laxate and today my doctor after my EKG results said that she's feeling confident enough to start me on this medication. Regland

1:25:16 and it has some serious side effects but I'm only going to be taking it for two weeks up to three weeks possible. Now by the way tell me this isn't Matthew McConaughey? So within two weeks, I should be lactating The rest is on me. I'm gonna have to pump and keep a supply. This is the tough part! I have one pump...I need 2 pumps So this is it. Crowdfund a movie about child trafficking,

1:26:00 You are queuing on this is no good. You got brain worms, but crowdfund for you for that dude to lactate right on This is America baby. Yeah, it was disgusting I had that clip too of course she did Is the second? Part of this where he should worry. I didn't clip it because I wasn't actually grow it's grossed out Go ahead say He's actually lactating and he shows this milk in a jar, he shakes it. It's like it's enough to make you throw up! And he is so proud of himself!

1:26:38 And he says he can't wait to give babies trans milk. That was the punchline, you forgot that part? Yes yeah it went on and on... It was really gross! That guy's got bald head shaved head gauged ears so there are big holes in his earlobes and a nose ring and a piercing in his chin uh it's just a grotesque person yes but that's all good That's all good. You should give that guy a primetime show! Well, thank God there is movement here I'm very happy this is happening This is so odd It's like you're overstepping your bounds people Your underwear are showing The vigor they are going after this movie can only be for one of two things

1:27:30 the money that is being lost, which is likely lost on this huge production. Oppenheimer was supposed to be the big 4th of July movie... That's a total... I don't even want to see it! We've heard so much about Oppenheimer Why are we getting this movie? It's like old news The only thing I could think about that is because it's about you know the atom bomb and I was listening Bobby the K on Lex Friedman, which I was very interested in because I know Lex Friedman would you know abhor him?

1:28:08 And the K is talking about the duck and cover days during the 12 days of the Cuban Missile Crisis. The duck and cover days went throughout the 50s? Yes, but during that time they were doing duck and cover in school and his dad Robbie, Robbie the K had said I don't want you doing that because I don't want anyone to see that you're ducking and covering, you're going into the basement. You're going into the shelter." He says because the whole duck-and-cover thing is a psychological operation on the American people to accept the whole notion of nuclear warfare which I'd never heard anyone admit before

1:28:53 And so the op-ed is interesting. I mean, you would duck and cover anyway because everyone else is So I think that... Is that a dog barking? That's a dog barking yes You know she smells adrenochrome It's like... And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage saying in the morning to you The man who put the C in the coup and the Adrenochrome Ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end of the morning only Mr John C DeVore Well, in the morning to you Mr. Anamkara, in the morning ships sea boots and graphite in the air subs the water And all of the names and nights out there In the morning to the trolls in the troll room! I was like hey Phoebe... Phoebe's so helpless and funny on a number that'll never be seen again It's okay Pheebs it's okay good girl I like this salad its great She got a big voice on her

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1:31:23 So, so let's see how long that lasts. Let's say how long your post on No Agenda Social will be able to be seen on threads I'm sure it'll be quite a long lasting experience. I don't think it's going to be for long. I don't think so either The NO Agenda Show is a value for value proposition. It's been that way, we're now in our 16th year which means we don't have any ads, we don't take any creepy commercial deals no corporate money it's just you who we have always well from almost show Five or six probably have called producers because you support us. You support the show you supported in many ways time talent treasure Those are the three T's? You can do lots of things you can give us boots on the ground reports you because everyone's an expert in something We love those People make jingle set up servers maintain things for us that no agenda our generator the shop I mean, there's all kinds of things

1:32:22 One of the biggest talents that we like taking advantage of is those, is out of our artists. And they upload during the live show that they are working hard like you know sketch super fast sketch artist but then to do high-end arts a lot of them and uploaded to artgenerator.com so that we can right after the show was done We don't edit, we just put in the ID3 tags and we do put a little opening fun opening at the beginning. And then we add some art to it and the art shows up in all of the podcast apps It's something new with something fresh is not the same old logo like everybody else. We've been doing it as I think one of the longest running shows ever to do it

1:33:05 And we of course want to critique those who screwed it up and did something horrible that we didn't choose, which is fun because no one will give you honest opinion these days. Because feelings! But we also want to hype-up the winning piece of art which was Sir Parker Pauly with just an outstanding piece this was the No Agenda Biden Harris logo with cocaine overtones shall I say You know also Paul Couture should be given some kudos for changing the layout of this page. Yes, he's done it now Thank you I noticed that too. He's done it now by he's He's given us a show number yeah show numbers easier for us to figure out what show this What are we looking at?

1:33:48 So yes, the Biden-Harris thing which was the first thing I mean it was just... It jumped off the page. There's a lot of good stuff here which is always got to be annoying to the artist when they do good work and there's a lot of good work in this one is about five pieces that are usable stunning a lot of them I like stunning pieces really And, well let's see. So we had the Biden-Harris which was the razor blade although you know I got Christina and Kevin here and he said that's a great piece of art but dad just so you know nobody uses a razor blade anymore because she called me out as a fuddy duddy

1:34:23 You're a fuddy-duddy. Fuddy-duddy? Did you ask them what they use instead of a razor blade? Yeah, of course! They just do molly. Then you should have called the cops. We don't do coke... we just do molly. There were some other good pieces A lot of banana peels which were appealing but didn't quite cut it Ghost guns was cute I personally thought the Kenny Benton to Neil was very funny. That's a Dutch joke well I liked the comic strip bloggers Fredericksburg we have gays It was a little too small, but it what I liked it too. I thought it was funny and that is the Fredericksburg sign Yeah, the Frederick We got lots of gays where a gay-friendly town

1:35:17 So you know it. Hunter's Oreo, cute because they're more addictive than Kodak. By the way I will say this about that we have gays we have lots of gays yeah contrast helps Yeah yes I agree Jack the contrast a little bit on this piece yeah cuz the back kind of blended into the background too much It says it's like low contrast Uh, what else was there? Media assassins poster. Cute but no. No. Hunter Biden- lots of Hunter Biden Coke baggies

1:35:53 Yeah, yeah. There's just no doubt this Parker Pauly piece was a winner! A clear winner, a dynamite winner and just a great job really was a great job well the best of the banana peel piece we should mention Sizzletron had a banana peel that was in the form of like a slipper or high heel. Yeah that was very cute But what was good about this piece to me was it's very dimensional. It's just a beautiful piece of art. Calling out the dimensionality of the art, nice! Oh yeah. Very good, very good... So in this value for value model,

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1:38:52 Bops off right away with an insta dame 1000 love the show and I share it with normies often so maybe they can wake up. I Just became a Dame henceforth Dame mad dog Goodwin Yes, you will be damed as such I'd like for you guys to send a special shout out to my fellow listeners A beautiful new couple known as the wowers Hello Wowers We are very thankful for Erica and she loves you, wowers. And we'll see you on the podium in a moment, Erica! Meanwhile...

1:39:30 Aaron Bauer also in Phoenix coincidentally mm-hmm came in with another thousand dollars And he's got no note or anything and I couldn't find anything it looked that's interesting So, uh, not sure if there's a relationship between air and Erica or not Whatever the case is you'll get a double karma. They will let us know what do you want to do? You've got Perhaps this is some value being returned to us from Arizona natives as we received reports that our rainstick shaking had indeed created monsoon related thunderstorms across southeast Arizona. Yeah and people were very happy, very happy with our rainstick prowess once again

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1:46:29 Funny thing is, funny thing is... What? Go ahead. Keep reading! Funny thing is we recorded the track in the 90's yes those 90's if you would like to use it in your after show mix we would be honored I can dropbox you Shrinking amygdalas for 25 years. Boom shakalaka! The full album is available at woebiddyhq.com It's value for value with a minimum requirement, thanks to all you and the producers do. Bi-weekly 50 something year old guys see a passion project to fruition I just want to play a little piece of this and let you know that they are value for value on wavelength.com Here it is not bad listen

1:47:10 It's kind of like a reggae vibe. So you can go stream some value to them over at wavelake.com and I'll give them a karma here. You've got karma Now that wraps up our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1571 for this July 9th And since it's all pretty short from here on out, why don't you take us through to the 50s John? Sure. Stephen Adams in Oxford Mississippi $100 for meetup coming up. Adam Fredrick, which we'll talk about later. Adam Frederick Orange Vermont 8066 wants some career karma will give him that at the end David Librand in Cape Floral Cape Coral Florida 8008 good for him Nicole Larocco in Cape Coral Florida oh I bet you there's a relationship here because

1:48:09 She came in with 8-0-0-8. And then Kevin McLaughlin in Locust, North Carolina, 8-0-0-8. Mr. Boob himself. Long and running boobs. Mr. Boob yes. Brent Bauckham in Garland Texas, 8-0-0-8 Curtis Kuhl in East Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania. You know there's a guy who used to have... I built a sterling car once. You built the sterling? Yeah, I built the sterling and not only that but I swapped out the Volkswagen engine and put a Porsche engine in it which was interesting process. That's badass! Did you put the six-cylinder Porsche engine in there? No, four. It was the flat one so one could fit in there

1:48:52 And there used to be a guy who got all the sterling owners in trouble because he kept ditching the police. And his name was Joe Cool, spelled exactly the same way. Dude you had what color was your sterling? Bright orange You really drove one of these? Yeah! No... Did the top that you had the removable top and everything? No it never was removable just opened funny Oh, I thought that's how it opened? I thought it was removable. No the whole top comes off when you get out Right, It was a kit car right? Yeah, it was a kit car Dude what happened to it?! I sold it to a guy in San Jose eventually like maybe 10 years ago I would have loved to seen you roll up in that Hey girls!

1:49:42 Well, it was in terms of a pickup car and believe me a Corvette was a better idea. I'll tell you why for one thing you couldn't roll up to anyone and say hi girls because the windows didn't open. You had to take the whole roof off just say hi girls then you look like a doofus! Okay that was problem one Wow, component cars. Also some nice pipes on that thing of that little Porsche engine sounded good with some I forgot the brand but there was some... Side pipes! No no they went out the back. Wow they should reissue this thing again what a cool thing to build and what a cool car that was

1:50:27 Yeah, it's one of the best looking cars I've ever driven. Kurt is cool anyways in East Stroudsburg Pennsylvania 7714 and he thanks us for working on the holidays. It was our pleasure man! That's a birthday for him or someone Ashley Larson in Ham Lake Minnesota 6006 Kevin McLaughlin Ooh, in Concord North Carolina. What'd he move? The small boobs interesting 606 yes change of address Oh all right He's moved to concorde so and it small boobs a Ed Webster in New York at birthday 5331 is there anything in there check it out So I don't know how to pronounce this name but as an Austin Texas Sig

1:51:17 So this is switcheroo for my son John Walton 51 20 Sig Ealton Ed, Ed. Ed is asking for a shout out for smoking hot wife she's 53 and they're 31 their 30 first wedding anniversary is this week and And they could really use some super jobs Carmen so I'll give that to them at the end Josiah Thomas, did you see the Sig CG Eilton? Yeah I don't know what that means. Josiah Thomason Ankeny Iowa 51 Bob Butler in Cumming Georgia 5069

1:52:01 Bad idea supply! 50-05. I don't have a bad idea supply. Joseph Gill in Lakeville, Minnesota now it's 50... uh 40 and he wants to call out his freeloading mooch of a brother Mark as a douchebag. Johnson Meier in Zinnia Ohio 50 these are all fifties now I'm gonna just name the location not very many donors today Jonathan Meyer in Zinnia, Ohio. Edward Mazurik in Memphis Tennessee. Robertson Holm in Flint Michigan. Justin Cruz and Tehachapi California. Kapek Chiropractic in Kapek Michigan George Wuschett in Laverna Texas

1:52:52 Joseph Stark in No City Provided. I like the way that shows up. Nadia Borg in San Marcos, California. Dazzilla in Cornersville Tennessee and it's a birthday call out for Phone Boy Josh Mike in Fargo North Dakota and last on our list today Amongst the very few donors only 38 total including the executive producers William Dolgay in Bristolville, Ohio. I make that 37 because the first row is zero is nothing's empty. I want to thank these people anyway for them as particular

1:53:37 for helping us make show 15 is 1571 a reality and a special reading of a note here from our layaway night this is John he will become a knight today hello Adam and John I'm writing as I've recently become a knight through the 3333 plan please dub me sir John of the discount dairy section Thank you to you and everyone who contributes to NOAGENDA. It's the most complete and efficient way to shrink your amygdala, And stay aware of incoming threats I want to call out my friend Scott The K as a douchebag! And job prayers will be appreciated. Well, we have some karma and of course the prayers will be in our prayers God bless he says and he'll be on the podium in just a moment now as requested earlier super jobs karma Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! And jobs! Let's vote for jobs! With a bit of a go Karma

1:54:31 And thank you to all of our executive and associate executive producers for supporting us here for 1571. Our formula is this, we go out we hit people in the mouth. Order! Order! Shut up Slade! Shut Up Slade! And remember if you want to be a producer with The No Agenda Show Go Here borag.org slash n-a It's your birthday, birthday. Oh so much and yes! And here is the list for today Rick Bunch wishes his late son Alex a belated birthday Happy Birthday on June 26 Ferdous Cool wishes his son Max a happy birthday in turn 9 on July 7 Sir Jeff of PA Room 33

1:55:21 Celebrating today as is Sir Dixon who turns 52 today. Ed wishes his smoking hot wife JJ a happy birthday turning 53 today. Dayszilla wishes Phoneboy a happy birthday turning 50 today. Joseph Gill turns 40 tomorrow and on Tuesday, Happy Birthday to the Keeper Tina Marie Curry! Happy Birthday for everybody here at The Best Podcast in the Universe! We do indeed have one title change for today. John... I'm sorry, Sir Dixbert! There we go, Sir Dixbert becomes a baronet due to his upping of support of the best podcast in the universe and we appreciate that sir dicks but now officially a baronet. We have let me see what we have no crikey

1:56:16 We have only one. I thought we had a Dame as well, didn't we have a Dame? Yeah, we have a Dame for sure! Why do i not see... Yeah, I know we do. Hold on second something-I'm missing a Dame here. I know because we just uh... Yeah yeah it's right at the top. It's the top person. Let me see what's going on. Erica Waltz is gonna be Dame Mad Dog Goodwin. Yeah, I'm pretty sure this was no how about that No! It's not on there Oh really? Because it's in blue. This is going to cause great consternation. Cause consternation in the back office! So, it's Erica... Hold on I can get this information here. I'm glad I caught it because that really sucks when you're waiting for it. Okay Dame Mad Dog Goodwin yes indeed and Erica Waltz will become that okay so we have Erica Waltz Caught just in the nick of time

1:57:17 Well, why don't we get out our blades then while we're I got my right here Step on up and John pop up here man You've been working on this for quite a long time with his layaway donation both of you Have supported the Noah Jenner Show in the amount of $1,000 or more and I'm very proud to pronounce a Kate Lee as Sir John of the Discount Dairy Section. And Dame Mad Dog Goodwin for you! We've got Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay Maybe you'd like some Diet Soda and Video Games Or perhaps some Vodka Vanilla Gations and Socket Rubin' Ess, Ruminin' Rosé Bong Hits and Bourbon anybody? Sparkling Cider and Escorts Ginger Ale and Gerbils always a crowd favorite Breast Milk and Pablum

1:58:01 How about the mutton and the mead? Yeah, of course we all love mutton and mead. Head over to NoahJenderRings.com This is the ring that you will receive very soon in the mail As soon as you give us a place to send it to, an address and the ring size. And make sure you tweet something out or put it on No Agenda Social Or just post in the supermarkets Everybody knows that you are a knight or a dame of The NO AGENDA Roundtable Thank you very much for supporting us We appreciate it! I sadly could not make the big Austin meetup this past weekend. Of course, we had the kids in town so that's...I didn't think they would appreciate driving an hour and 45 minutes to do the meetup in their back. They might have liked it for a little bit but

1:58:51 decided against that. So instead we thank everybody... How long are the kids gonna be in town? They are leaving, they're going to go to Austin for two days on Thursday so they'll be out of the house on Thursday and they fly back Sunday from Austin yes from Austin Yes why Oh, I was just wondering. Oh okay! There you go. No reason...I don't care It's just curious and I gotcha. But it's interfering with your schedule is seems like Well to some degree Here's a meetup report from Oxford Mississippi ITU

1:59:27 John and Adam, this is Buffy at the first ever Miss Sass Man in Oxford Mississippi. MS Mississippi Hey this is Blank Adams just another dude named Ben at the first ever meetup Hi this is Greg I've just been hitting the mouth and here's a friend that did it Hey! I'm John And they're putting chemicals into alcohol that are making me drunk Thanks John & Adam This is Lance My wife hit me in the mouth so glad I came We'll see you next Velvet Ditch Meet Up Alright, in the morning to all of you. Thank you very much for showing up Here's a couple of meetups happening in the next few days today actually downtown east down south That's the meetup in Relry Po Takaria

2:00:08 That's Scarborough in Maine, so you better hurry up if you want to catch that one. It may be over The July 9th Harlem meetup that is in the Netherlands They're probably well underway and inebriated That's the boat tour through Harlem's canals I can't wait to hear that meet-up Wow yeah, the Dutch are creative man Mexico City's first meetup five o'clock Mexico City time That'll be today, La Cervechera del Barrio Mexico City Polanco Miguel Hildago Mexico. Please don't take my directions as truth but go to nojentomeetups.com to know what I just said On Thursday next show day the so-called meetup five o'clock that will be at Nevermind Awesome bar in Cape Coral Florida and

2:00:56 The North Dakota Norwegian crossover meetup at six o'clock at the starving rooster in Minnow, North Dakota And then finally on Thursday July 13th the Denver snow or minute. It's probably a minute You're probably right Thank you better know I don't know um you say minnow minute minutes minutes Yeah, it's North Dakota go to no agenda meetups calm The Denver City Park Summer Slave Brigade hooey-hooey kicks off at 630 in Denver City Park. That'll be in Denver and Colin is organizing that, so this is your NoAgenda meetups just a partial bit of the list we're going all the way through the end of August already if you want to find out where you can find one This is your people! This is who you want to be with these are the people who have something in common it's not for normies necessarily but you'll be able to meet some people who are quite normal like yourself

2:01:48 We just have no issue. It's an amazing thing, this is the people who will save you in a pinch! It's your connection which brings you protection. NoAgendaMeetups.com If you can't find one near you start one it's easy! Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days You wanna be where you won't be Triggered or held to blame. You wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a party, like a party, like a party And even though we still have plenty of show left... Isos? Did you bring any isos? I have one but play yours first Okay i've two Wow that's amazing That is absolutely amazing

2:02:40 Oh, that's nice. Here's my other one. Solomon! What? Salomonella is part of a clip I didn't play good yeah exactly I only have one in this podcasting podcasts and alternative news outlets are enough it's a little long so just a tad long I mean do you think that's better than the thank you very much we'll play yours again okay hold on second

2:03:18 I'm gonna rewrite gotta rewrite it takes a second to rewrite here. It is here's mine sit Wow, that's amazing That is absolutely amazing It's not great little at the end. I can cut that off. I got it off Uh, I think the amazing one works. I don't have a problem with podcasts and alternative news outlets are enough Have you seen this podcast? You know, but I have a beef here. I've a beef I do. Got a couple of beefs. Yeah, lot of beef in Texas. We got tons of beef. US podcast misinformation goes largely unchecked. Notice they never put our show in these articles? That's because we're never...we don't have misinformation! Exactly but here's what they write this is NewsGuard so this is the stupid firm that has now see if we were doing ads we would be broke

2:04:14 Because NewsGuard, a firm that rates the credibility of websites announced in May will begin evaluating the trustworthiness of popular podcasts. But this is the idea to run podcasts that are stupid enough to bring in advertisers that are squirrely generally speaking yeah they're wimpy and squirrely and they Sure you sure we can do this with the podcast? I don't know Bill. What do you think and so they'll bail out left and right And so they see us, and what's the point news guard said it will release the rating the ratings rate ratings for some 200 podcasts in 2024 giving more transparency to listeners

2:04:54 And then, like listeners care. What? Yeah so listeners know- How's it giving transparency to- what is it going to do with transparency? You don't like the podcast! Yeah and enabling advertisers to avoid podcasts featuring misinformation or content at odds with their brand Yeah, which is everyone. Editorial director Eric Efron said rating podcasts is quote more challenging than other content because of the audio format which requires time to listen and to examine transcripts. And this takes a tremendous investment because we use human intelligence! Wow... Why would anyone use the word human intelligence unless they're spooks?

2:05:40 Because he's playing off of AI, artificial intelligence. But here is the beef that I have. Neo-Nazi podcasters who said Prince Harry and Meghan's son Archie is an abomination that should be put down for being mixed race have been convicted of terror crimes! Now I know a lot about podcasts And in fact, you know me and Dave Jones we built a little index called podcastindex.org and we know what's a podcast and what's not a podcast so when they say this is the Daily Mail that these two jamokes Christopher Gibbons 38 and Tyrone Patton Walsh 34 hosted Black Wolf Radio

2:06:31 homophobic racist anti-semitic Islamophobic and misogynistic podcast I can tell you... put it in a nutshell. I could tell you that's not a podcast It never was in the index, it was never subscribable and we have everything that is nut job. It might've been a rumble, it might've been a brighteon but they never put it up on an RSS feed. So its not a podcast! Get it right Daily Mail Well I'm glad you excoriated them. Yeah it's annoying, it's just annoying all right it's back okay so I got Kennedy I got this gal-loofed guy who's gonna

2:07:17 I don't know, Israeli intelligence maybe? I don't know what this guy is. Explain the background of this Galuf guy because he just popped up out of nowhere He's a whistleblower. He's Mossad whatever...he's an Israeli We don't know what he is. He isn't Israeli we know that! He seems to have been in business with Hunter maybe or something? He was within business with the Chinese oil company And so all of a sudden this guy is spilling the tea on the Biden. Well here he explains it probably better than I can with clip one, Biden hit Dr Gal Luft. Good day my name is Dr Gal Luft for the past 20 years I have been the co-director of the Institute for the Analysis of Global Security at Washington based think tank focused on energy security. A stink tank? For the past 15 years I've been a resident of Israel

2:08:11 and for four years I was senior advisor to the China Energy Company CFC at the same time of its dealings with the Biden family. Under normal circumstances, I would be testifying before Congress about my experience with CFC. Sadly due to circumstances i shall describe here in this video uh...I am forced to tell you this story via video My ordeal goes back to a fatal decision I made in March of 2019, to share with the US government my knowledge about the Biden family's relations with CFC. As i said it was in March of 2019, in a two-day session at the U.S embassy in Brussels

2:09:06 I insisted that the meeting take place in March because at the time there were rumors that Joe Biden was planning to run for president. I saw it as my civic duty to alert the government beforehand and give it enough time to probe the issue. I want to be clear, I'm not a Republican, I am not a Democrat, I have no political motive or agenda. I did it out of deep concern that if the Bidens were to come to power, the country would be facing the same traumatic Russia collusion scandal. Only this time it was China. Sadly because of the DOJ's cover-up this is exactly what happened. A couple things one CEFC that's a Chinese energy firm right? Yeah Two he said he made a fatal mistake

2:10:03 Is he dead? No, he's not dead. Okay and good point and he also said no agenda which I kind of liked but he kinda said no agenda that's all i have to say so he goes on you know there's a lot of clips here but I'm only gonna play a couple of them because it kind of is... He's not interesting in terms of his presentation he doesn't have any dynamic range he just goes on and on with the spiel and you have to wonder who he's an asset for someone we can't figure out who because why would we know? But here we go. The DOJ sent to Brussels a delegation of six people, two prosecutors from the Southern District of New York by the names of Daniel Reitenthal and Catherine Gauche and four FBI agents one of them was Special Agent Joshua Wilson from the Baltimore field office which also happens to cover the state of Delaware

2:11:04 Now you want to ask yourself why did the government dispatch to Europe so many people? Why six, why not two. The answer is that they knew very well that I'm a credible witness and that i have inside knowledge about the group and individuals that enrich the Biden family Over an intensive two-day meeting, I shared my information about the Biden family's financial transactions with CFC including specific dollar figures. I also provided the name of Rob Walker who later became known as Hunter Biden's Agman yet as we now know today from the whistleblower testimony

2:11:55 Gary Shapley, it took the DOJ a whole 21 months to probe the issue and to actually talk to Walker. But perhaps the most alarming information I revealed was of a mole within the DOJ who shared classified information with Hunter Biden and his Chinese partners. I told the DOJ that Hunter was closely associated with a very senior retired FBI official who had distinct physical characteristic. He had one eye! One of the FBI agents at the time even told me, you know that would be very easy for us to find there aren't that many one-eyed people in the Bureau. Alright I have a couple of questions because of course i saw this whole thing. The whole thing is like 15 minutes it goes on for days so

2:12:51 Why does this Israeli national, why is he really doing that? He's saying because he's so patriotic for America. I find that sketchy. That's...I got questions too keep going. Two you know what is he really telling us that's new other than this This is the only thing that's new is there was a mole The one-eyed guy! The one eyed DOJ guy Yeah, that guy How about this for another question Why is he going to the embassy in Belgium? There's an embassy in Tel Aviv. Another good question! Why doesn't he just go to the local embassy right there, isn't Israel?! I don't know this...I find this whole thing questionable. Fishy. Sketchy

2:13:40 I think it's fishy in a lot of different, on a lot of dimensions. I really like the one-eyed guy though. The one eyed guy is good touch. Because you know there is going to be some guy who just gonna show up on the scene and people are gonna go that's him! That's the one eyed guy! It has got to be the guy he has got one eye You know thats gonna happen. You want play one more? Yeah yeah which one? Three The information I provided the FBI in March of 2019 was fully corroborated nine months later when the famous laptop belonging to Hunter Biden, which contained all the emails and receipts was handed to the FBI. And guess who seized their laptop from the computer repair shop? It was Special Agent Joshua Wilson who was with me in Brussels earlier

2:14:36 In other words, the FBI knew from me about Biden's CFC deals before they got hold of the laptop. Way before! They had enough time to investigate the issue but they didn't. After Brussels I never heard back from DOJ but instead of showing appreciation for my whistleblowing i became public enemy number one Over the past four years that followed, me my family and I have been working on a new project.

2:15:19 corruption or something happening inside the organization, right? Inside you have to be part. You have to be if he worked for the DOJ, he could say was a whistleblower so I don't like any not a whistle and and I think you and I agree that clearly the Bidens are up to no good but this guy just doesn't seem like the guy now we need the one-eyed guy that's clear And the other thing is but he does bring up an interesting point about every time anyone goes after the Bidens If we connect that to Biden being involved in the takedown of Europe, because he was mentioned in the phone call that we played. He's part of a bigger system they can't afford to let him

2:16:04 become a distraction in any way. No, nothing's gonna happen to Joe Biden no but we know what Hunter is gonna have this unfortunate jet engine ingestion accident just tell I'm just like the fact that you're sticking with it. After Brussels I never heard back from the DOJ but instead of showing appreciation for my whistleblowing I became public enemy number one Over the past four years that followed, me my family my friends my associates were all arrested intimidated and finally I was prosecuted. Despite all that on the eve of the 2020 elections i sent my lawyer to Washington to meet with then acting deputy attorney general Mr Richard Donoghue

2:16:56 to ensure he was informed about the information I had given his department in Brussels 19 months earlier, and also to warn him that there may still be a mole within the DOJ. Mr Donoghue confirmed to my lawyer that he was aware of my claims but now we learn from the IRS whistleblower that it was Rich Donoghue himself who suspended the investigation few weeks earlier on September 4th 2020 on the grounds that it was quote too close to the elections. I don't know man, what is this guy's you know he ends it up with...I'll always be on the run now! Yeah right and why? What are you worried about? No. I feel the same way you do. We can stop there because they're just pretty much the same yeah but it's uh you know the DOJ's corruption

2:18:00 Oh, crunchy. But he names some names which is kind of cool and but he himself this guy is a little sketchy All right let me do some other stuff Here's something that we've been hearing for several weeks We've talked about it on the show We've gotten people to explain to us what they are and once again Here comes forever chemicals, forever chemicals. It's everywhere there forever. There are chemicals that are for ever! In tonight's HealthSmart new water concerns researchers say nearly half the tap water in the United States contains Forever Chemicals known as PFA

2:18:42 There are a group of synthetic chemicals found in many cleaning products that linger in the environment and the human body. A new US Geological Survey study discovered 45 percent of U.S tap water contains forever chemicals with the highest amounts in Central and Southern California. Exposure to PFAs is linked to problems like cancer, obesity thyroid disease high cholesterol decreased fertility liver damage hormone suppression. Now when I heard that list, first thing I thought was man they're doing anything to cover for the ozempic side effects but I think there's something else going on here they finally figured out they want to get to our water

2:19:26 And I said when I heard this CBS report with the solution because you know we have the problem of course that's the forever chemicals. We've been it's been building for weeks and we've kept hearing these reports forever chemicals okay everyone is hearing about forever chemicals There hasn't really been a huge reaction, outrage. But okay here's the solution. They're linked to a wide range of health problems including cancer, high blood pressure and fertility issues. CBS's Mark Strassman takes an in-depth look at new technology that could make so called forever chemicals disappear. Technology!

2:20:13 Nasty cargo. 10,000 gallons of landfill water laced with PFAS a known carcinogen that nothing could get rid of until now We are concentrating the nasty stuff to allow the annihilator system to treat it Not just treat PFAS blast them out of existence These so-called forever chemicals are manmade used in Teflon firefighting foam even facial makeup and previously indestructible This is where the PFAS go away. Destroyed, that's correct Last year we showed you Battelle a non-profit research institute doing a small scale field test distilling water into PFAS concentrate the really nasty stuff for destruction it worked! A technological first leaving behind water and salts harmless to the environment

2:21:04 You've got to have enough force and energy to break those bonds. Now another first, scaling that technology like this forklift carrying the concentrate for treatment The PFAS annihilator lives inside this converted cargo container with heat and pressure it blasts the PFAS concentrate these forever chemicals gone without a trace within seconds. Here in Grand Rapids, this retooled water treatment plant is North America's first permitted PFAS remediation facility. Were you convinced it would work? We had a lot of hope that it would so how scalable is it

2:21:41 It could be much more scalable, much larger than this. This plant's treating a half million gallons a week! The market seems virtually limitless... This is only the tip of the iceberg of us being able to get this scalable technology to market and customers For the first time nothing about PFAS is forever Again? Like what is this now all of a sudden So they've got some way to... It's a native ad. Yes, but for some company that is trying to get investment I think! I'm not sure. Kind of like those... So, Jesse, JC's wife and JC to a lesser extent they're really good at searching out the best of the best various kinds of things so she's a freak about the water. So you know Brita is no good and they were using the zero water system for awhile. They don't have a Berkey?

2:22:38 I'm just putting this out there for people who want to try these things. And the one that they finally concluded was the best because it takes out... fluoride, supposedly. Antibiotics and all this crap in the water and I've been using it makes a delicious glass of water I'll say that it's called Clearly Filtered. Now clearly filtered is the waters tasty but the device that they have to do the water container It's a piece of shit. The lid doesn't want to stay on, so you have to hold it down when you pour. But except for that flaw...it's dynamite and I think maybe the best of the bunch of these things there are whole bunch of these companies that make this filters. Interesting! So is just about recommendation from me to the audience Couple other things There is some loose ends I wanna tie up

2:23:40 So this story is all over the news, but I just picked a random clip. This is from WION. But there's a question that no one is asking or that is just not being discussed. Days after violence erupted in France, the French Senate has now passed a controversial law granting sweeping powers to police authority this after the country was engulfed and riots after the police fatally shot a teenager in a Paris suburb city according to reports of French police can now spy on suspects by remotely activating cameras microphones and the GPS location system of a phone

2:24:17 So this is everywhere, this story. The French have passed a law that they are now allowed to activate microphones cameras and GPS systems and they can keep the data up to six months The question I'm asking is how are they doing? This no one is discussing this No one is telling it's Apple just saying okay Frenchie That's all good. No problem. Yeah, we'll just turn it on for you Is that how its happening No one's asking the question. These are journalists, you expect them to actually... You're crunching in and out for some reason Oh! Okay hold on a second Yeah right down the time Well here is what I surmised because i think i have the answer

2:25:07 What clearly must be happening is the very same social networks. I don't see Apple going, yeah sure French no problem. Yeah hey Frenchie? Yeah we'll just flip it on for you man there you go do whatever you want! No...I don't think they'll do that. I don't think even Google probably wouldn't do that but i do have a feeling that Snapchat Twitter Facebook Instagram They'll gladly give them access to flip stuff on The apps can control it. You give your app permission to access your camera, access your microphone... That's true. ...access your GPS location

2:25:46 So I think it's these apps. I think the apps are the bad actors in this What about the telecom companies? They seem like bad actors Yeah, but they don't have access to the camera like the apps do The apps... you mean people literally give them promotion Can we access your camera yet? Go for it! Stupid. So stupid And your contact list Don't forget that Now here's another thing that is rather irksome. By the way, it's probably a profit center for the apps selling the information to the government Yes! I would hate to say it but I'd probably be on board with that if I was the company... I'm not sure why this clip is only six seconds long In fact, the two hottest days in world history That's the history of the planet Why is this so short?

2:26:41 That's weird. Because you misclicked it? I must have misclipped it the point is we all heard about it, the hottest... You talked about this on the last show just to remind you. I know, I know! I just have to point out that this comes from the University of Maine's climate reanalyzer they're the ones who determined this This is where all this news reporting comes from as Tuesday an unofficial record for the hottest day on earth was set And here's how they do it, from their own website. The globe's average temperature reached 62.9 degrees Fahrenheit 17.7 degrees Celsius on Tuesday according to the University of Maine's climate re-analyzer a tool based on satellite data observations computer simulations used by climate scientists for glimpse of the world condition this is a bogus story

2:27:39 It's usually... It gets a lot of legs. Oh boy, did it ever! Because they can add a map and stuff And you might have seen this story Climate change is making turbulence worse Have you seen this? No. Oh, no that one's new oh just plug it into uh into your google thing there turbulence climate change I mean I can read you some of the headlines It was my daughter even because she's yeah she's not a very confident flyer CNBC bad news for nervous fliers turbulence is getting worse as the planet warms new scientist turbulence on flights is getting worse because of climate change

2:28:26 NPR, climate change may be making turbulence a lot worse. Green Matters! Why is turbulence getting worse? The plane experience is getting bumpy USA Today What causes turbulence here's what makes it worse Euro News Fasten your seatbelts Turbulence during flights is getting more severe due to climate change NBC News The seatbelt sign is on! Viral videos and climate change boost concerns about turbulence. Insider How Climate Change Is Making Plane Turbulence Worse The Verge It's Not Just You, Flights Are Getting More Turbulent BBC News Flight Turbulence Increases As Planet Heats Up Study Washington Post

2:29:09 How global warming is creating more turbulence on flights. Yahoo News! Severe air turbulence has increased by more than 50% in the past 40 years because of climate change I can go on and on and on allow me to explain what's going on? I wonder if it's got anything to do with bed bugs Now, what the Air Traffic Control is doing in conjunction with airlines is what's causing this so-called increased turbulence. In order to save the planet and save the earth, they are now trying to position... you know, the way you approach your destination airfield is you're at 30 000 feet and then a certain point air traffic control says okay

2:29:58 Okay, Dvorak Airways. Go down to 25 thousand feet." And you'll go down to twenty-five thousand feet and be there for a little bit and then after getting closer they say, "...Dvorak Airlines please descend to 12 thousand feet..." You start descending at twelve thousand, fly around there for a little bit so they can sequence people...you know? You kind of go in a step down manner this is the way it's been done forever But oh no, now they're trying to change it and they're using AI. Of course! So that... And this is crazy so that you can basically glide all the way down in one fell swoop without using your engines so you just put the engines to idle You start gliding down and there's no stops at any particular altitude level All the way down pretty much until you are ready to sequence into land at the airport

2:30:51 And of course what happens is you don't get to pause just before a level that may have a little bit of chop, as we call it in the business. You're just riding it all the way down and its scary and gets bumpy and not pleasant experience The reason why pilots and airlines don't do this is to keep the passenger comfortable And this is now being sold as, oh climate change is making turbulence worse. Isn't that? Well that's a great presentation on your part thank you. With sound effects too and thank you. I didn't hear the sound effects. Oh yeah you heard the sound effect. Oh that! That's always a winner. Then I got a note from one of our producers about climate change

2:31:40 You know, because of course they're also looking at the hottest day on record by going back to since 1940. Because 1941 was the coldest year on earth since the 1600s when this...when the sea belt...when the Belt Sea froze over each year in fact in the 1600s Swedish armies could walk to Denmark And apparently, according to one of our producers Denmark still has a law on the books that says if a Swede walks over the ice to Denmark it is legal to beat him to a pulp. This is a great law! So... It's all such bunk. It's such bunk. It's just unbelievable what uh... Well since we're talking about bunk

2:32:35 We might as well do the hit job that On The Media did to poor Bobby the K. Okay, let's do the Bobby the K hit job alrighty now everything about this is slanted and it's assumed And I have to assume that they're sincere They think Bobby the K Robert Kennedy jr.. Is nuts he's a conspiracy theory Adrena there is he uses techniques to fool you? He's a liar So let's go even his family hates him Oh yeah, and we can't forget that his family hates him because he's so off the rails. And by the way the conclusion is I'll get... might as well summarize that it's only for his legacy doing this what people remember he existed

2:33:23 He's such a loser. It's like a Trump thing, he is doing that just for his own ego? Is that what they are saying? Yeah. Kennedy is probably not going to win in November 2024. Most likely he won't win the Democratic primary either But even if he gets nowhere, just sticks it out through part of this election cycle? He'll garner plenty of media coverage and his dangerous ideas will reach more people. My article was published on NBCNews.com a few weeks after our encounter after I'd had plenty of time to fact check and contextualize his response but not everyone's gonna have that luxury

2:34:00 For help and advice on covering conspiracy peddling candidates on the trail, we called up Anna Merlin. She's the author of Republic of Lies American Conspiracy Theorists and Their Surprising Rise to Power In a recent article, Merlin described Kennedy supporters as a quote coalition of anti-vax activists crypto enthusiasts, Silicon Valley moguls and supporters from across the horseshoe of extremism. The horseshoe of extremism! This is a good one So on the left Mr Kennedy is obviously talking about his bona fides as an environmental lawyer which he sort of did prior to becoming anti-vaccine activist And he's weighing heavily on the family name

2:34:39 On the right, on the far right he is promoting frankly Trumpian talking points. For instance talking about sealing the border permanently blaming mass shootings on pharmaceutical drugs like Prozac. And almost every one of these shooters were on SRIs or some other psychiatric drug. Promoting a view that the war in Ukraine is fundamentally a proxy war. President Biden has said that we're there to de-platform, to depose Vladimir Putin and if that's why we're there then we are killing a lot of Ukrainians as pawns He has said he opposes trans women competing in women sports This guy isn't...he's crazy!

2:35:20 You can't have all this! And I like the last bit on her laundry list. He opposes, of all things he opposes trans women competing in female sports. Oh my god what a lousy guy What a...this is just an A-hole i tell you So that was the laundry list of Democrat talking points basically We need a new list we need a list for Bobby Decay of all the things he is I mean, he uses the horseshoe of extremism. Here we go to clip. He also has an incredibly combative and often litigious relationship with both mainstream media and sort of mainstream systems of government. He wants to persuade people who think they're Democrats that they're not Democrats and people who think they are Republicans that they aren't Republicans is how he put it to Dr Drew so he's presenting himself as kind

2:36:18 Non-partisan everyman who is equally dissatisfied with both sides So let's talk about how journalists and media outlets are handling this candidacy You wrote that ABC and CNN demonstrated how not to cover RFK jr. Yeah, what did they do wrong? so This was a very kind of early Oh, well. Let me just say I know this song. Oh my God we should just rename him Bobby the Q. I don't know why are we even talking about this man Adrenochrome? Yeah what did they do wrong so

2:36:54 So this was a very kind of early example of media platforms just not really being ready to cover Kennedy's candidacy. So what ABC did was they sat down for fairly conventional Kennedy interview with Kennedy, but during it he did what he does, which is he started spouting COVID and vaccine misinformation. And so ABC made the decision to just cut that portion from the interview and then tell their audience that's what they were doing. It was just like vomit just spouting from his mouth through his orifice about vaccine disinformation We should note that during our conversation, Kennedy made false claims about the COVID-19 vaccines. Data shows that the COVID-19 vaccines prevented millions of hospitalizations and deaths from the disease. He also made misleading claims about the relationship between vaccination and autism research. I think it was a well intentioned decision but what it did was gave Kennedy an incredibly powerful talking point to say you see my views on COVID and vaccines are so powerful and threatening to the establishment

2:37:56 that they cannot see the light of day. This is what happens when you censor somebody for 18 years. They shouldn't have shut me up that long, because now I'm going to really let loose on them for the next 18 months! They're gonna hear a lot from this! Oh lemme guess...next question So Becky... Okay, so what do we do with a candidate like Bobby the Q? What do we do Becca? Yeah actually she's got the second example first and then it falls apart. You're right that is kind of coming up CNN was a little bit more unusual essentially what happened is that a CNN political journalist named Michael Smirkonish had Kennedy on and managed to use the word vaccines exactly once in his introduction, and then proceeded to have a very friendly jocular interview with Mr. Kennedy about his campaign that managed not ask about his anti-vaccine

2:38:49 activism at all. They spent more time talking about Mr. Smokonis's fandom of Cheryl Hines, Mr Kennedy's wife. If I had not convinced her that i can win this race uh-uh I would not be in it because she is the ultimate boss okay listen I do love your wife I'm team Cheryl having said that so it was really really striking okay that's what journalists do wrong How can we do things right? This is new. Oh, I didn't notice this what that's what journalists do wrong? It was really really striking so okay That's what journalists do wrong wrong. Yeah the wrong drunk. I heard it in the first day yes, it's wrong wrong What are you doing it wrong? Oh said that wrong so it was really really striking So okay, that's what journalists do wrong How can we do things right right? I mean oh

2:39:47 Oh man, this is NPR! I mean if this was a podcast i'd throw it out of the index that's so bad. So it was really really striking. So okay that's what journalists do wrong how can we do things right? Right, I mean the first of course is you absolutely cannot go into arguably any interview unprepared but especially with someone who has spent I'm just stopping this right now. I'm just stopping it right now. This is so dynamite You had two clips of the day oh, well, I'm on a roll The fact that this is being broadcast on something called guess an NPR and you're proud of it public radio It's you know what? This is this is wrong arguably interview unprepared but especially with someone who has spent

2:40:35 the better portion of the later part of their adult life promoting and advancing false claims about one thing specifically. And is very, very trained in how to do that. The second is to be prepared to push back in real time. Then third I think is sort of a broader existential question which is ask yourself what's the purpose of interviewing him? Is like at its base what you are hoping to convey to readers and listeners this sort Good questions that you know an interview might go towards answering. Well let's talk about that fact checking in real time it's very hard yes it is Mr Kennedy does something that is a kind of known rhetorical style that other folks do too which is called this sort of gish gallop as the term for it named after whoa gish gallup yeah gish gallop it's actually in Wikipedia what is

2:41:34 What is a gish gallop? A gish gallop is what I would say if anybody actually does it, and I don't think Kennedy does. But Ben Shapiro would do it where you just throw so much stuff at somebody they can't take it they're ducking you left and right in they can respond in time by the time they want to respond to something you say something else Oh you mean like with facts Yeah, if you actually... Kennedy has a lot of facts but they just assume everything he says is disinformation or there's better facts. Let me read the exact definition. The gish gallop or gish gallop, which I like better is a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm their opponent by providing an excessive number of arguments also known as facts with no regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments. Gish galloping prioritizes the quantity of the Galloper's arguments at the expense of their quality

2:42:32 The term was coined in 1994 by anthropologist Eugene Scott, who named it after American creationist Dwayne Gish and argued that Gish used the technique frequently when challenging scientific fact of evolution. So don't throw too many facts at me because then you're Gish Galloping. A kind of known rhetorical style that other folks do to which is called this sort of Gish Gallop as the term for it named after Dwayne Gish a creationist right so the idea that creationists Gish Gallup is that you are making claim upon claim oh heathen I'm sorry, a heathen who believes in God. Oh no! Gish Gallop is the term for it. Named after Dwayne Gish, a creationist Right so the idea that gish gallup is that you are making claim upon claim upon claims sort of bad argument after bad argument very very very quickly So quickly that it has heard for the person that you are speaking to To sort of respond to all those claims effectively and in real time

2:43:30 Oh, what a horrible trick. I can't believe Bobby the Q is using the Gish Gallop trick! That's just... even Trump can't do that No, Trump can't. Wow! This is... oh man So this is to demean him further and by the way it's always associative you want to associate people with creationism because that makes you nuts By the way this whole sequence of clips this is like I had a T-bone steak, a tomahawk steak and then afterwards you came out said would you like some tiramisu with that? I mean this so good I'm just...I love this! This is the best ever

2:44:10 Ever. One thing that is sort of recommended for responding specifically to Gish Gallops is picking out one claim and focusing in on it, whether its the most ridiculous or the most dangerous the one that has been debunked the longest you can pick a single claim and go from there. Debunking a single claim goes along way to sorta illuminating larger false premises which some of these claims lie. So a lot of these pointers deal with TV interviews I work for television company But I prefer print because then you do have more control over the outcome. I'm actually reminded of the Brandolini's law, which is this internet adage that says the amount of energy needed to refute bull****

2:44:51 is an order of magnitude bigger than is needed to produce it. And in print, I can contextualize quotes more easily. I can take the time to consult experts and fact check do you think print journalists have a little easier here? Have they been doing a better job with him? And I'm also thinking that with presidential candidates TV coverage is such a big part of it Oh, I'm sorry. Does she mean like something the Rolling Stone would write when they say the QAnon tinged thriller about child trafficking is designed to appeal to the conscience of a conspiracy adult boomer? Is that contextualizing what you're looking for Becky? Nice! In print?!

2:45:31 So, but you know unfortunately after so much television... I really believe that this is the appropriate mechanism for covering claims like this that often require not just a lot of explanation but a lot of links to other sources. You know i really believe in providing links to scientific studies position papers good strong context that can lead people to understand better the claims that he's making. It is so hard to do that in a two-minute TV hit, even in a longer sit down interview it can be just incredibly, incredibly difficult." What have you learned from your experience reporting on conspiracy theorists? Is there anything that you've done that you wouldn't repeat?"

2:46:09 In terms of things that I have done that I would no longer do, I would be less flippant about their ability to affect politics. I went on this cruise for conspiracy theorists in 2016 and I went into it with a sort of like lighthearted attitude thinking that this was going to be a fun kooky story an almost immediately was really checked really sobered by what I saw and what was going on Andrew Wakefield who is kind of the father of the modern anti-vaccine movement was on people promoting conspiracy theories about the financial system that put themselves and others quite literally in prison. I think the one thing i would never do is discount the ways that conspiracy theories can shape our politics, shape our national conversation and decimate people's lives. There's no conspiracy! That's why they ended up in prison first of all

2:47:02 Why did I not get invited on this cruise? Yeah, no. This is upsetting what cruise was this? I don't know baby. I'll ask McGuinn he would know This is This is this this is wrong Was that the last of that I think it was the last unfortunately But I do have a sub clip a little minor little clip which is thank goodness. I need more I need more three-second wrap up at the whole thing. This is like oh They kept talking about that, maybe a different person. This is the RFK accusation clip and this is what summarizes it for me. Beliefs are extreme or his beliefs are often false and misleading. Extreme? His beliefs are extreme... Or? ...or false... Or misleading! Beliefs are extreme where his beliefs are often false and misleading. Misleading beliefs you're misleading me with your crazy beliefs man

2:47:59 His beliefs are misleading. Wow! How does that... Think about that sentence? Yeah You have beliefs Yes, I do Who are you misleading with your beliefs? Dumb dipshits like this You can only be misleading yourself It's your belief it's not your comments or it's not what you say I don't know. This was a hit piece from the get-go, they made him... They're trying to make it worse than they ever did with Trump, yeah, uh, I think and i think they're going to continue this attack and the problem is throughout all these pieces there's more to it throughout the entire thing they did not refute one single thing

2:48:45 No, because they were being gishgashed. There's no refutation of anything he said! Well of course not It's like the Ivermectin stuff there is so much documentation for Ivermectin Horse paste! Gishgashers that what i'm calling these women That's probably not very nice, but there you go. Um... holy crap! I don't think that can come back from that? I can't top it?! Uh..I could just give you some piece of information that i'm sure is misinformation, disinformation It can't be true but mmmm No no I cant, I cant Nothing, I got nothing. I am gonna end the show. I think its good This is it We're good to go That was unbelievable Good job

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2:51:50 Triple-demic. It's a phrase that we're hearing, can you explain that? What that means? So that means that we have to keep our eyes on multiple pathogens, multiple respiratory viruses at the same time I'm in an old Airbnb Actually it's not an AirBnb, its BNB A proper bed and breakfast with really beautiful breakfast It was done by the owner. And so it's an old house, and it has one of those old Dutch toilets that I think I've mentioned before on the show that has a shit thing... Way up in the air? Well, it has the reservoir way up in the air, so he uses real gravity, big-ass gravity

2:52:44 But it needs that because it's one of those typical old Dutch toilets that has the shelf. And for people who don't know, the main Dutch toilet maker... Back in the day started making them mainly for hospitals and there's a shelf so when you poop then your poop stays on the shelf, so it can be examined and No one ever thought that's kind of disgusting for the home And they just said we'll just use the hospital toilets. It's kinda weird when you sit there going oh shit man this is My poop is on the shelf, and that's why you need extra gravity. Poop is on the shelf? In some places it hits the fan in the Netherlands its' on the shelf There's a poop upon the shelf There's a poop upon the shelf We keep it for your health For the Queen and Commonwealth

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