1:31:44 And to which I said, uh did you read what you signed when you put your podcast on there? You dipshit. They can do anything they want and you're not gonna get paid. But it is kind of interesting how Spotify's gonna get backlash from this, from their advertiser. Hey man what are you guys doing? People hate us now! That's not the point of advertising we want them to love us and that's why we are value for value it's the only way to do these kinds of programs is... You can't have Silicon Valley determine how much this podcast should cost in
1:32:22 Advertisers have no interest in us or truly in any podcast. They're really afraid of it, big advertisers So what we do is we ask people how valuable the program was if it was valuable to you then we appreciate you sending that back in a number that is of value to you, of equal importance. Now... You may not have- you may be student maybe five dollars is a big deal to you That's fine It's a big deal to us because that's the value that you can assign to it and that and it's about you Not about us. It's how you feel about handing back the value We really appreciate it now what that does not mean
1:32:59 And the producer segments we've always kept very much open to the producers. They've come up with karma, douchebagging, de-douching—none of this is our idea! It doesn't mean that we are obliged to read your 375 word note These are at our discretion. They always have been and you in particular, John, have been bitching about the length of notes so today that actually I think people took it to heart and things are looking good but we are going to redact And just might not do some things now ma'am Just making this up by myself But I've a feeling you might agree because it got a little bit out of control with people demanding and saying that this is a right To have our note read
1:33:43 Well, that's value for value and then give me some more value back. That's like blackmail! Well there was a big brouhaha... First of all I excoriated one of our producers for a $50 note that had a long note attached to it that took the whole spreadsheet and it was a $50 note but since he was a knight we read those notes and normally we don't We don't read notes between 50 and 100 for people out there who are new. But it's always at our discretion should we want to if it's content... Once in a while, there is something worth looking at but meanwhile so that no agenda social people got all bent out of shape saying I was rude and I was mean I did apologize to the guy by the way You did? And uh
1:34:34 I told him that it wasn't for him, it wasn't for his benefit. It was to keep everybody alerted to the fact that these notes are too damn long and the rents are too damn high It's just, it was getting out of control and it would just sneaks up. It sneaks up and the next thing you know we got these huge notes from people. It's not as though these notes once in a while they have content once in awhile but most of them don't. They're just going on and on about Brother Fred and all the rest of it and sometimes its tedious and it takes... The show last show is three-and-a-half hours long. It should be two hours and 45 minutes so I did what I felt necessary to do with the complainers on the no agenda social I blocked them all
1:35:18 I was wondering if you were reading along. Oh, that's funny! Well the note in question...I did go back and looked at it and said what is this about? And so here's where you dropped off the conversation but it was a fundamental issue The note was thanking a whole bunch of other podcasts for helping him reach his knighthood promoting other podcasts, there was literally nothing in there about No Agenda. And what happened was a lot of these other podcasts are noagendastream.com podcast everybody was waiting for their name to be read and recognized and that's where I draw the line if you want us to read your name and your note we can do a podcast separately for that
1:36:05 And now it's like, well this is... It's funny you say that. I was thinking the same thing that if we don't like what you know the fact that we don't let you just go nuts We can just do a separate once-a-week or once-a-month podcast with all the thank yous in there. Yeah! I don't think anybody wants that I don't think so either. And that's where it's gonna head if this continues and if what you say is, like you said, I cut out, I said fuck it, I'm not going to deal with this but if everyone's gonna bitch about this sort of thing like that then we're gonna have to do because that's all we can do these long notes are ruining the show for most people Yep People don't listen to the donation segments cause sometimes they're 45 minutes to an hour long
1:36:50 Now, again the premise was always value for value. And we do stuff we think is valuable We love it if people give us value back. We've been able to turn it into our end of life career because you know... ...We've been doing it so long that we have an audience that's sizable but I'll tell you People who say well if your not going to read my note then I'm not gonna donate fine Please do not we want you to donate for value. We've always shunned scams You should sell t-shirts We don't we let us someone else do that Donet if you want to you should do NFTs, you should do a go fund me You should do it dow know Value for value if you'd like what you heard turn into value send it into us We have up we've had opportunities to sell this show for 10 million dollars. We won't do that either We just want to do the damn show does I characterize it right?
1:37:45 Yeah, it's pretty good. And if people... One of the complaints which I think is when I cut everybody off as a guy says you're showing no gratitude Yeah, that's exactly. My last comment to the guy before I blocked him was we name everybody that gives us money. We give everybody a thank you! That sends in more than 50 bucks they all get their name mentioned how much more gratitude are we supposed to show them? Well the comment that got me was your business model is based on this community like no no no no no no that's simply not true We have a wonderful community and that's where time and talent comes in. Which is why we call you producers, not listeners. If we have no business model, we provide value, you send us value back, we thank you for it. That's the idea!