Zombieland USA

00:01 How many steaks do you have on the plane, bitch? Adam Curry. John C. Devorak. It's October 15th 2009 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 139! This is no agenda Awakening the masses so they don't become extras in Zombieland 2 and coming to you from the minimum security containment cell in Gitmo Nation West San Francisco California I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's not supposed to be raining but indeed it is, I am John C. Dvorak. It was a horrible storm and I didn't witness one bit of it

00:38 Well, you know it wasn't that bad around here. That's the joke of it Oh San Francisco in the city itself people said it was almost spooky They're wimps Yeah, of course they're wimps! There wasn't less than an inch of rain in San Francisco there were 14 inches in the Santa Cruz Mountains It's funny because... That's where all the action was A lot happened John we had snow I think Utah and Minnesota There is snow on the mountains of Hawaii Is that normal? Well, it's global warming. What can I say? Exactly! It is exactly what it is and Chicago where I was for a couple days oh man it got so cold of course Chicago is known for getting cold not this time of year but um... we only looked at Celsius temperatures but it was below freezing

01:29 So that would be below 32 degrees Fahrenheit overnight. And of course you get that wind off Lake Michigan, it's like ha-ha-ha okay... The wind should be going the other way. Wait wait wait I got news! I got big news. All right, by the way before you start uh... i want to mention that our producer executive producer today is timothy tillman hey timothy from midlothian virginia timothy tillman executive producer of no agenda podcast for this week episode one thirty nine timothy's the executive producer put it on your resume yes and and it will help you get get jobs and we'll vouch absolutely will sign anything you send us

02:16 Now, so we came back John and guess what? We have twins! Oh really? Yeah, they hatched! The pigeons hatched. Okay now let's... did you take pictures? Yeah there will be a picture in todays show notes There is a picture on Mickey's Facebook page You have the picture of the baby pigeon because this was the debate This one guy came over your place and said People noticed that it is legendary that no one has ever seen a baby pigeon So for people who haven't followed along for the past four or five months these two pigeons keep coming back roosting in this windowsill ledge which is right off the deck of the back of the containment cell here and every single time it's gone wrong either we've had crows take the eggs or they fallen down to the ground, or a combination thereof. And I think it was... I think you even killed one of the eggs if I'm not mistaken? No! I didn't kill the egg but there was a crow had the egg in his mouth and I went shoo and then he dropped the egg on the ground so technically it was lose-lose situation anyway

03:19 But I did hear, and I think this is what was different from this time that the city of San Francisco spreads out pigeon feed that includes some chemical that makes them sterile. Because of course they don't really want a whole bunch of pigeons flying around the city which there's already enough of them so I can kind of understand that but it's also like eh? So what I did is every single morning whenever with this last batch of two eggs I would take some either muesli or granola and throw it out on the ledge. So wait, you're now admitting to being one of those horrible people who feeds pigeons? No but John it was for science! By the way they really like the raisin muesli apparently that's much better for them

04:09 and I really got into a good relationship with ginger, because it's Fred & Ginger of course. They like the muesli better! Did you check to make sure it didn't have any high fructose corn syrup? No no no...it's completely organic Yeah sure But I had such a good relationship with her, that I could actually throw the stuff onto the ledge while she was sitting there and on her head and she wouldn't care. So we come back yesterday from Chicago and the broken egg shells are still... one of them is actually still attached to one of these two chicks. I guess they're chicks right? Pigeon chicks or piglets? Piglings! Pidgetts

04:50 And she literally shows them off to us. She's like here and she leans back, like hey look at what I got here! And then she covers them up again and this morning I gave her some more... You'll be joining PETA? Yeah, Christina wouldn't let me Christina's like hey man. Don't give them usually that's good shit man I want to eat the muesli so I gave him some Some other stuff. I don't have some rice krispies yeah Rice Krispie treats for everyone and She got off the nest to go and eat it and went back And we got some fantastic pictures You know I have to say they're cute and with a release would now We know he can put this on Wikipedia

05:33 Yeah, I just takes care of the legend that no one's ever seen a baby pigeon. Well we have two and We will be documenting Documenting their growth until red-tailed hawk comes around you need some live well We have run we have a roster who is going to be watching out anyway? A couple things for my travels before we really get into the meat of the show first of all Traveling in America is not fun anymore It hasn't been fun for almost a decade. It's really, really diminished all the way from you get to the airport and we flew United and we flew Coach which was still San Francisco-Chicago coach round trip each ticket was $600? What the frick is that?! It's high! Yeah it's very high

06:35 And it's just, you know every... United has this priority check-in which you can add another $49 per ticket and then you can get into a faster line. It was like what the hell is that? Which by the way didn't go any faster than the regular line You used to be able to select a seat that was near an exit those of course now are for sale and when you walk into the plane its all freaking midgets who were sitting there who book their tickets a year in advance and lock up all the premium seats. Because that's not a premium seat, is it? An exit row used to be like well you have to adhere to all these can-you-speak-english and are you able to open up the window now it's like hey you got 50 bucks you can have an exit seat. That's about right

07:26 this pay extra you pay extra for your baggage which I don't know, i guess that kind of...I didn't realize that's what was going on. You buy your ticket and then if you when you check in if you actually have a bag with you then you have to pay twenty dollars a bag. You know it seems to me as though the did this is all leading to one obviousity which is they do fly around by the pound Oh! You know what? I'd be okay with that You probably weigh enough to be the median. Now, typically you'd pay right around the 600 mark and then they get these people that are extremely large that would have to pay even more and then there's this skinny little people could probably get in on a discount. Well here is the thing that really bothers me... It does make a difference I mean it is part of the cost of flight. Of course every pound is noted on the spreadsheet its extremely important

08:20 But the thing that this does, this paying $20 for baggage which and I'm okay with it if it's really by weight. There are a lot of reasons to say okay because it does cost a heavier person... It costs more to transport them in aviation. It is all done by weight and balance but what this does is forces people to bring on these overseas shipping containers on wheels And it's just a nightmare what goes on with people trying to jam this shit into overhead bins and then of course, you know It's completely filled to the to the nook and cranny and people You know finally get them closed. And then some other dickhead comes along is like oh I think I will open this one and then you know it falls on people's heads and it's like that's just it's a nightmare

09:12 It's so stupid. And why do they allow people to bring on these huge suitcases? You're not supposed to bring on a suitcase that big I mean, I carry a hard case which is designed specifically and I do it for the specific reason that I know it'll fit in those bins But these people they buy these things They will fit in the bin if they're empty but then they stuff them full of so much stuff Yeah So this thing is bulging And then they slam it up or some people do the same thing with a garment bag, even though not too many people travel with those anymore but some people do. Then they can't get that thing in and they're pushing and pushing and pushing... She helps push? Shes' pushing and their pushing and she's got tricks to kind of cock things so it opens a little wider and finally gets it in there and when the plane exits

10:05 You have to wait for this guy to try and get this thing out. But you know, it's like they even say please put your lighter items in the overhead bin which they're not luggage storage They're for like your coat, your laptop bag, some small things And I have a nice coat and I fold my coat up there I've got my laptop bag, I put it up there and then I'm done Then some douchebag comes along with boom-boom It's like, dude you know that's like my coat in there. That's like my shit and you're just ramming it like a jackhammer. Tough toenails kid! And all the while... so the air conditioning unit was on sub-zero temperatures above three rows because of course we were on a triple seven which means why do they make five seats next to each other? Five seats is most inconvenient thing in the world if you have an aisle seat your gonna be standing up throughout the entire flight to let at least two other people go to the restroom

10:58 And so, you know we kept saying could you please control the air conditioning because were really freezing. You know like here feel my legs they're made their blocks of ice and these people in the flight attendants on United who are just dickheads and ugly They just all that could all the concern to be too yeah all they're concerned about is Could you please Whoever controls the air conditioning, could you please change it just a little bit turn it up a little bit? Turn off your dumb. That's all they talk about and then oh we have we have breakfast Which by the way the food you buy is a box of chemicals And by the time they get to row 43 I'm sorry We're out of breakfast how many seats do you have on the plane bitch?

11:51 Use that as a starter. Yeah, let me mark it! That's a good one and I had some fun at the TSA as well... Ah, you know so the thing that bugs me is there's no consistency. So there was a new... There were two new things in Chicago on our way back. The new one was- By the way just to interrupt for a second I do want to mention that there is no consistency if you look at the TSA website because I fly with my daughter every so often she's under 18 it if you read the TSA website children flying with their parents don't need any ID whatsoever

12:30 Right. Try to pull that out. It says it on the website, it says it's a TSA policy try to get your daughter on an airplane with no ID and see what happens Oh well so the consistency... Well first let me start at every airport Before you get to TSA, they have the local airport rent-a-cop which is one step above janitor and nothing against janitors but you know you get a uniform with a sewn on like security patch. And their only job is to check and see if you have a boarding card right? They have no legal right to look at your identification that their only job is to make sure you don't get into line without a boarding card I'm okay with that

13:15 But the arrogance and the way they look at you, and the way they speak to you. And then on the way over... The woman like... I'm like, and what happens with me is that I just can't help. I remain friendly but I get it loud you know? Like good morning how are you! And then it always kind of freaks him out and she's like grabbing my boarding card okay thats good thank you! You know I just can't help but I figure if anyone says what the fuck is wrong with you ill say sorry im hard of hearing or something you know I can pull it off.

13:51 But, you know it's like that... It's so unfriendly. It's SO unfriendly! My favorite thing is recently they've taken up when you go into the line there at the beginning they have a boarding card and ID guy And so they, in different airports again it's inconsistent but Seattle always had to have for one thing they got a little ultraviolet light. Yeah! They shine it on your paperwork. They shine the card like okay whatever yeah and so they're shining the light on the card and then these guys in Seattle typically hold the card up into the air next to your face so its like matches next to your face And they move it up forward and back as though they're like Monet or something. They have some facial recognition. So here's the inconsistency, so in Chicago and of course these instructions are yelled at you

14:42 So usually it's take your laptop out of the bag and I have one of those crumple bags, so it was just a laptop and has its own little encasement nothing else. And you know I just carry that under my arm because I don't want to be taking shit out of the bag and make it easy for me whatever. So normally is like TAKE ALL LAPTOPS AND ELECTRONICS PUT THEM OUT BUTTON THE MENU And then you have to put your shoes, you have take your shoes off. But the new one here was... Do not put your shoes in the bin! Shoes have to be on the belt by themselves!" I'm like, wow. What? Yeah exactly and I'm like okay so I just let that go so I'll put my Uggs because of course they travel with the easiest shoes to take off...I'll put them on the belt. I have a scarf you know just a gray scarf and everything's off. My pants are falling down. I've got nothing on except this scarf and the guy says, Take off your scarf sir

15:40 And that's what I'm like, doesn't the x-ray machine show that there is nothing in this scarf? No! We have to see you have nothing underneath. Okay, so I'm like alright. I begrudgingly do that and then as my stuff comes out on the other on the other side And there's one bin with my laptop On top of the rubber casing it was just a little protection or protection bag The guy says you know you don't have to take that out of the bag. I'm like oh really agent white Well please come to every other airport. I've been through where I've been balled-out for not taking it out That's not true

16:16 I'm like, okay. That's not true! He would know. They're following you. And please take your bins off of the belt we need to move along move along like where am i going to redress sir? There's one bench where two people can sit on and there are 30 people in the queue it's just so anyway what I'm building up to is my entire frustration of being treated like a an idiotic slave And when you really sit and drink a coffee at the airport and watch people... They have become zombies. And all the while, the soundtrack is... Current threat level is orange! Please be very vigilant! Do not let go of your luggage! Please maintain your- Maintain your luggage at all times! It's like that shit has influence on your psyche you know? it really does and people are walking around like zombies John and no one's friendly No one says thank you or please or whatever

17:15 It's just now all you wonder why Chicago lost a bid for the Olympics. Yeah, and it's not it's not just Chicago It's the airport experience in general and America used to be ridiculed In a funny sort of way by the Europeans when I was growing up in Gitmo Nation East Oh, America is so fake with your have a nice day and how are you doing? And I'd always defend that and say you know that's not true. People Americans generally just mean that don't read anything into it they actually mean how you're doing or have a nice day and its part of service and services service with a smile but now even the people who say this like hi how ya doin' have a nice day thank you very much have a nice day if they become zombified

17:59 completely zombified and I'm... Well that's why these movies are out. Exactly, exactly and even in my intro i said it you know I saw Zombieland which is a fantastic movie if you like gratuitous killing of zombies And who doesn't? Let's face it but I think there was a very deep psychological metaphor in there that the filmmakers were trying to portray and they're right we have just become a nation of zombies at least in these open spaces where people come together and there's just no human interaction whatsoever it saddens me, really saddens me. The government has done what it has to do dehumanize entire population United States for its exploitation It's freaking worked

18:45 Well, you know it doesn't take that much. So anyway while I was in Chicago had a quick walk around wanted to show Mickey You know something like the loop and stuff And I bumped into something rather interesting and I did a little bit of research on it although I don't know if it really means that much we can read too much into It but it was just kind of fun to see I saw a plaque on On one of the bridges and I forget which one offhand But it's not that relevant which was a plaque from 1687 or something and talked about Norwegian sailors coming over to Chicago. And so I started googling a little bit about, you know, basically

19:26 did Google searches on the Norway Chicago connection, of course thinking that hey maybe there's a deeper meaning behind the Norwegians. Not the Swedes it was the Norwegian five Norwegian politicians who essentially choose the Nobel Peace Prize There is huge Norwegian community in Chicago And did you know that 55 of the big bridges in Chicago were built by Norwegians? Okay. There's a lot of Norwegians in that whole area, Minnesota, Chicago, Wisconsin Right right but I just thought and there are still to this day shipping contracts and there is all kinds of stuff going back-and-forth between Norway and Chicago and I just though it was interesting

20:15 that there may be a little more connection there between Chicago specifically and Norway. You never know with Chicago! So, there's a couple of links that I'll put into the show notes at noagendershow.com where you can read about the Norwegian community and all the work they did on on the bridges which face it is a big part of the Chicago infrastructure And 55 bridges is you know, that's that's not just a little and there's a lot of I guess it's Lutheran churches in Chicago that the Norwegians Built. I don't know. I just thought it was interesting that there may be a little deeper connection Well, let's get back to this dehumanizing theme. I think this is this is a good one for us sure well Let's which brings me to one of my clips hmm

21:07 First I want to mention this clip, I promise I never dug up and I've got to dig it up because it's still valid. It'll still be good to listen to which is Shepard Smith berating on Fox, berating a nurse who wasn't going to take the swine flu shot And he essentially berated her for pretending that she knows more than the CDC knows. Because the CDC knows more than she does, she doesn't know anything and the fact that she would come on this show and go in it was just unbelievable to listen to this thing because it was just like... Did you send me this clip John?

21:48 The clip that you have two clips right? Yeah, it's the one that's not the PPOD O'Reilly dick Anyway, so Smith goes on and on. So I thought that was just an anomaly, Shepard Smith's a dick you know there are all these different possibilities or she went off script or who knows what? And I didn't think it was going to be thematic then O'Reilly comes onto the show this is last week and now its not that this woman doesn't need berating But the idea that you bring somebody on who has, all you're going to do is berate her because she is not the government and the government knows best. I didn't know Fox had gotten into this mode of the government knows best which is somewhat sick

22:38 because the government doesn't know best but the government knows best or the generals know best and you know I mean, anyone who's been through the Vietnam War scene knows that was bogus. But no thats okay so i want you to play this is a little long your gonna have interrupted it couple of times but this is O'Reilly attacking a Code Pink woman one of the co- founders or something and she was actually quite pleasant for a Code Pink woman. She just came on to say what she wanted to say, and he not only ridiculed her but then laughed at her! And I found it abhorrent. Americans who want out of Afghanistan even though there's no question the terrorists would move in. Joining us now from Washington Medea Benjamin leader of Code Pink committed anti-war group and Ms. Benjamin is just back from Afghanistan

23:26 So just define for everybody your exact position on the war over there. We don't think sending 40,000 more troops is the answer we think there is no military solution and in fact we think that presence of US troops is the best recruiting tool that the Taliban has. We were told about 30% of people who joined the Taliban joined because they've been harmed by foreign forces and the other 70% joined because they're poor. So I think we'd be a lot better off saving the lives of our soldiers and the money in our tax dollars if we provided financial incentives for people not to join the Taliban, and we have an exit strategy and let the Afghan military and the Afghan police be trained by the UN and promote peace talks." Before we even let O'Reilly go further...

24:13 It baffles me how the talk has shifted to the Taliban, how we were supposed to be there for one reason and one reason only which was to catch Osama bin Laden. Okay you can tack on your phantom Al-Qaeda if you want but the entire conversation is shifted to the Taliban and no ones even questioning that! Now this is like a shift from health care reform to health insurance reform You just slip in you do you just me you do slipstream the argument so you were talking about one thing one minute the next thing, you know We got to stop the Taliban By the way, let's run and down sorry So Medea Benjamin feels that she knew no more about winning a war than general McChrystal. Well Yeah He doesn't seem to be winning it does he? I don't know if that's gonna fly see McChrystal thinks he can win but

25:08 And he's the expert general and you're a civilian, but you say you know more than him. Well I'm absolutely certain that more troops is not the answer if troops is what... Okay but he's certain that more troops IS the answer so I'm saying why should I take YOU with all due respect your expertise over Chris' expertise? You fool! You're a slave! You need to shut up woman! Shut up and sit down! What do you know?! That's exactly right. Yeah, it's you know so just in response this first of all I don't know what wars McChrystal has won You know I wouldn't mind seeing his track record okay? Maybe he was a seal or something like that and just to preface this I really have deep respect for servicemen and women my whole family is government service men and women and There is a constitutional

26:00 obligation and when people sign up for that, you know that's huge. So it is not about that but but she's louise when when will we understand that this is the biggest scam in the world and i hate to say it but it is a complete fractal of iraq complete frited from afghanistan to iran it's all about access to the region is all about oil it's what it's all about all over again has nothing to do with taliban out other than you know uh... getting the taliban out of the way who were of course depleted the poppy fields down to almost zero production the coalition forces come in and now we're up at a hundred and twenty hundred and twenty five percent so we can ship drugs over to the west and that continue fuel wall street okay well mccrystal is a uh... west point grad commission second lieutenant around seventy six uh... then he was uh...

27:01 we did that c he was special forces special forces and has a special ops or whatever okay so but that doesn't mean you know how to win a war the means you know it'll kill people he went to south korea uh... who who district of the fifth rangers so high-end Fighter that's for sure. Yeah a fighter, but it doesn't necessarily mean he's a Strategic war winner and by the way what constitutes winning in Afghanistan? What what when we win what does that mean yeah well I know it's the same thing with Iraq wait who's who do we beating I mean did somebody come over and do We sign up some papers on a train on a ship. I'm is new knows nobody at that can surrender I mean It's ridiculous And it looks like the

27:50 It looked like Obama is going to do another surge type deal? Yeah, well that's what this debate is all about. I'm still looking over this McChrystal stuff...I am not seeing that he was a big war winning general He was criticized for his role in the aftermath of the 2004 death This is the one where Pat Tillman was killed He lied about it apparently he said that Tillman was killed in a line of devastating enemy fire which was not to be the case it was friendly fire. So now we have a guy you can't even trust him right there, boom! Why does anything he says have any validity?

28:43 a substantial increase in u.s troops afghanistan you wanna hear robert gibbs that douchebag when i hear what he has to say i love robert gibbs is my favorite he's funny to listen to it's as short as he says so slightly and his rest of the report yeah The President has not made a decision and when he does I think you can assume that the BBC will not be the first outlet for such a decision. the fact that a decision has been made when the president is yet to make a decision. Does the President actually make that decision? Doesn't Congress make the decision? Well, it's a war decision so its supposed to be congress but I think that the congress doesn't care and besides they should go along with anything he says Gordon Brown pledged 500 more forces for Afghanistan How many? Five hundred Huh! Yeah And he said its all very important

29:46 right in line with the strategy so apparently the UK strategy is different from the US strategy or it's just a setup you know to say this strategy is right and the strategy calls for more troops and then Obama can say well our partners are doing it we have to do as well and yeah there's some some some live them down the only get off his wiki page i'm sorry but it was looking at that somebody gonna have to die otherwise not in the wiki but supposedly stanley a mcchrystal one day abroad star and is no mention of what for well if he was to fill up an empty spot on his uh... uniform as interesting report in the times uh... the u k times

30:36 You know, the French there were 10 French troops who were killed I think a couple weeks ago when they walked into the... well they took over from the Italians in the Sarobi area east of Kabul and this was supposed to be a very very calm very serene area and the French come in it was their turn to take over that particular region. And boom you know ten guys get killed And this report now states that the Italian Secret Service was paying thousands and thousands of dollars to the Taliban commanders and local warlords to keep the area calm. But they neglected to tell the French this, so the French went in didn't know where to drop the black bag or where to place the envelope... ...and the Warlord's like hey I'm gonna take you out! Because the Italians are just paying them off and drinking wine all day

31:32 It's a fantastic article, it'll be in the show notes. Yeah I definitely have to read that one. And there has been a lot of reports about buying off warlords but no one is really aggregating it all up into one real concise story and Now the whole thing is a fiasco. It really is, it really really is and but not just...it's so disappointing and in a way it's upsetting Don't we see what's going on? Why can't we see that?" Probably because all we hear is, current threat level is orange. I was talking about this with Mickey last night and she also started to get really irritated about the TSA stuff and she's totally slipping over to the dark side John which is kind of cool And she says but you know well of course we don't want terrorists. Well let me ask you this in Madrid

32:30 Where were people killed by terrorists? And she said on the train. I said in London, where were people killed by terrorists? She said on the subway and in buses So well how come you know how come the terrorists who are apparently out to kill Americans only target airplanes We got plenty of trains we got buses How come there's no security there because it's bullshit Well, for a group that's out to kill Americans it seems the number of attacks they've made on our shores is pretty low. I mean although we do catch these idiots like that guy in Dallas who was going to blow up a building but the guy was obviously a subpar moron

33:14 who, you know somebody targeted. I mean and yeah i think you could probably do this with a lot of these guys. You find somebody with the really low IQ and this is part of course the... you gotta get the Patriot Act repassed so what he got was to have a few incidents So they arrested that one guy out at Denver then they found some guy plotting against something in Chicago coincidentally yes and then they had this moron down in Dallas Fort Worth area that was gonna blow up this building so they found some guy who's going to be his handler And, you know who's a government agent and essentially the government agent does everything. He buys him the bombs he gets them You know he sets him up. He gets them all jacked up come on buddy We can do it we can blow this place up and I guess is yeah okay? duh and the guys in obvious, you know probably IQ of 80

34:00 and he gets him to the point where they planted this phony bomb, and then he has them push the button like he's gonna blow it. Okay you get to blow it up here is the button trigger here take and push it ready? One two three push! Oh didn't work oh boom you're under arrest yeah And as though this would have happened if it wasn't for the other guy who was the American, the government guy that was doing all those heavy lifting. If you want to just grab people like that there's a bunch of big talkers in the United States I've seen anyone who has ever been amongst a working class or been in a factory There are so many blowhards in this country that it's not hard to find one and then sucker him into doing something He probably wouldn't have done in a million years. And this is probably you know, some of the worst kind of entrapment I'm not saying this guy should be out roaming around he's probably a dummy that should be locked up But that's beside the point. I mean you saw it with John DeLorean when he had his car company This was back in the 70s, I believe

34:58 where he was losing money and some government guy came up with this idea to talk him into, you know let's get into the cocaine business. It is a real problem I have been in it all my life. To ride this guy right into the sewer when he probably wouldn't have done it on his own I think is abhorrent and that what we just kind of make people criminals as...I don't see why were making people criminals Meanwhile, if you connect the dots and that you will not hear this on Fox News or on your beloved CNN. President Obama has consistently said that he did not want to make a decision about more troops in Afghanistan until their

35:42 the elections were finalized. Now, the elections... this is Karzai, the guy who his co-owner or brother has all these huge restaurant chain in the US he owns the Toyota factory in Afghanistan He owns everything! He's like a true warlord of business over there and Karzai was as a shill worked for UNESCO or Unocal was put in there to kind of manage the region and so we're waiting for you know they had this election it's like there have been no real results, and it's like maybe there were some fraud. And now the UN official in Afghanistan Sunday acknowledged widespread fraud in the disputed presidential election and is rejecting allegations from a former deputy that he covered up

34:58 where he was losing money and some government guy came up with this idea to talk him into, you know let's get into the cocaine business. It is a real problem I have been in it all my life. To ride this guy right into the sewer when he probably wouldn't have done it on his own I think is abhorrent and that what we just kind of make people criminals as...I don't see why were making people criminals Meanwhile, if you connect the dots and that you will not hear this on Fox News or on your beloved CNN. President Obama has consistently said that he did not want to make a decision about more troops in Afghanistan until their

35:42 the elections were finalized. Now, the elections... this is Karzai, the guy who his co-owner or brother has all these huge restaurant chain in the US he owns the Toyota factory in Afghanistan He owns everything! He's like a true warlord of business over there and Karzai was as a shill worked for UNESCO or Unocal was put in there to kind of manage the region and so we're waiting for you know they had this election it's like there have been no real results, and it's like maybe there were some fraud. And now the UN official in Afghanistan Sunday acknowledged widespread fraud in the disputed presidential election and is rejecting allegations from a former deputy that he covered up

36:38 the cheating to smooth the path to victory for President Hamid Karzai. Now, where do you think this UN official is from? John... I don't know, you tell me! From Norway! Kai Elde So you've got Norway in some grand scheme plot Yes, I'm telling ya, Norway and Chicago there's something going on there It's the Norway-Chicago Obama axis I'm telling ya it's the axis of Norwegian evil Remarks by Norwegian diplomat Kai Elde appeared designed to win back respect for both the troubled UN mission and the entire election process ahead of a ruling by investigators on whether fraud was extensive enough in August, the August 20th balloting to require runoff. So here's a guy who was supposed to make sure that you know there was no fraud and he tried to cover it up

37:32 He tried to cover it up. Maybe the Norwegians are so sick of making money from oil that they're looking for this drug connection? Maybe the Norwegians are supplying all the drugs in Chicago. Yeah, maybe they're just trying to expand their business! Yeah you know that's what you do... But these things- You'll never hear about this I consider this to be pretty big Nobody cares It's not insignificant There is definitely something to it Nah. What am I talking about? Just take your shoes off, put them in the bin! Don't put them in the bin! Put em' in the bin don't put him in the bin! I'm so confused...I do not know what to do and maybe that's a part of it maybe they'd doing on purpose to confuse your ass you know well that was something somebody sent us at CNN ad did you read we have one of our producers is a hypnotist

38:24 Oh yeah, I did see that. And he found an ad that CNN uses which is an ad designed to confuse the brain Oh, that's where they have it was the CNN ad yeah. I do have that hold on Yeah confused their brain and then you they hit you with a suggestion You know It says it's a very well I found it fascinating and I believe That we need to do a couple And I think I can I can reproduce kind of reproduce the style of that ad and make a no agenda ad Which will help maybe get us more contributions would you like me to see if I couldn't pull that add up for a second? Yeah, it's in his email. What yeah? Why don't what oops why don't you? Explore I kill some time. I kill some time Containment that was telling the people of where you were gone about your containment cell and the fact that I believe that in San Francisco All these lofts that are being built and there you can they all have the same basic style The windows are off the ground They're their brick they're made out of a you know brick

39:22 most not just regular brick but this kind of prison brick. And all you need to do is put some bars on the windows and you'll find that most of these lofts in San Francisco could easily be minimum security prisons, and I think...I'm almost convinced they were designed with that in mind And you're in one of them, and that's what I pointed out to you. It even has the elevator where they can beat you up! I mean it is just amazing. Just a classic prison situation. Okay, I got it here... Actually your blog this is coming from your blog so this isn't Anderson Cooper 360 or as we say AC360

40:02 and uh... it's a white listen to i hope it'll because you tube sometimes doesn't do stereo so let's see if it'll uh... and i think is needed in stereos did makes it easy that only has been stereo work you know i disagree i think what you hear through left ear and through right ear has profound different effects. Now maybe because you know the right here goes to left brain and left your go to the right of brain in those brain halves do have different functions was here with it sounds like a long time the issue that matters most to me is national security unfortunately many politicians running government are almost impossible to trust sometimes

40:41 That's why I watch Anderson Cooper 360 on CNN. Every weeknight at 10, AC360 brings you the news from different perspectives. I especially like keeping them honest because whenever one of those right-wing politicians plays with the facts they're held accountable. AC360 Weeknights at 10 only on CNN It's actually it's what Alex Jones would describe as the left-right paradigm which is why i find the actual separation of channels an interesting concept because you literally are talking about left and right What would it be interesting and we have to get the original John and see if you can find out what's playing a white on? Which channel because if the if the woman who says left

41:21 actually appears in your right ear and the man who says right appears in your left ear. There's something to that, that is not unimportant. Yeah it might be because you have a left brain has like certain mentality and the right brain has a different one so you could kind of appeal to both of them through the different ears and then consolidate your message at the end So you have confusion... The way I was described as you have confusion, confusion, confusion and then the brain is going, I don't know what to do! And then consolidation where at the end the information's identical. But speaking of CNN and this was a fabulous report that came out which i think is something that's very important for our audience our producers women who perform the act of fellatio and swallow semen on a regular basis one to two times a week may reduce their risk of breast cancer by up to forty percent yeah

42:14 Yeah, that was a hoax you know. Yeah? From the Associated Press? It was never an Associated Press story! It says right here it's an AP story! That's what it says! And its on CNN dot com I'm telling ya' I know that began as a hoax and somehow got into the mainstream... ...and it's from a study from North Carolina State University Its just if it really is a hoax thats great because You can just say somethings from NCSU and get your shit on AP and CNN And apparently they studied over 15,000 women. John, wait John I think we have to test this theory! I think we need to get a few of our... We have like nine female listeners? No actually 13. We need to study them over the course or a few years just see if this is actually true This isn't for science John we cannot just overlook these things Yeah for validation Validation purposes

43:13 So I guess this is as good a moment as any for the PPOD. Okay everybody, it's time! John C. DeVore acts Pet Peeve of the Day. Okay here's the deal... Finally- This actually got to me a couple weeks ago and then I saw- I heard this ad With Ragu, you can give your kids veggies they'll actually eat. Ragu has more than a full serving of veggies in every half cup so give them a good start with all-natural Ragu. Feed our kids well Veggies? When did veggies become like a mainstream term, oh veggies. What is it these people six years old you know I saw start seeing this word veggies cropping up and you hear all the vegans also Oh veggies veggies oh I've got my veggies and then I saw what really got to me was on Yelp they

44:06 They used to, you see these all the veggies are really good. What veggies? What's veggies I don't get what veggies is this like somebody saying what do you like to eat? I'd like to eat meat! It doesn't mean anything but the term veggies is so kind of like third grade that it just galls me and it just irks me to hear grown women save veggies and then I when i heard this commercial just drew took me over the top and by the way also when you do a yelp post there's a little I think it is a little more than the word yum to describe the meal is that it yeah John C. DuBois X-Men people today it's a part of the dumbing down on the masses john it so incredibly clear it's just as just to make meant to make us stupid

44:55 We're stupid apparently. Veggies head! Veggies... Yeah, and it's in ragu which sounds pretty ominous Full serving whatever that means I guess they're counting tomatoes as veggies when in fact they are fruit Speaking of commercials John Gannatus is how you pronounce him one of our producers says You might want to take a look at the new format for drug ads on Hulu He said, and I don't watch Hulu because maybe I should to watch some of the drama series. Because you have a real TV! Yeah, I got a television and I try to keep that off it's much safer he says last night when he was watching cops to improve his taser avoidance techniques he saw for the first time one of these new ads and it includes a screenshot

45:51 and how he could screen shot of the spot is a minute fifteen so it's that new format which fifty seconds is the uh... is is all the disclaimer to get my notes if you know six fifteen seconds as a sales pitch in this is the fifty five zero so it was just like i don't use twenty seconds uh... was or twenty five seconds was um... actual commercial and the remainder of the time that's a long commercial yeah what's one of those new you know minute fifteen things but they're now also has on on the hulu ad they have a scroll bar that actually now gives you the text of all of the negative effects of the commercial oh wow including right upper belly pain i'd love that

46:39 Yeah, I thought that was pretty interesting. So yeah who's gonna make a bundle off of that? Really it's what I got a I gotta credit only two countries in the world That allow this sort of advertising It's banned and it used to be banned in the United States But now the United States and New Zealand of all places are the two countries in the world that allowed this sort of really onerous drug company advertising to get people to hound their doctor. When I saw it on TV, you know is it right for me? Is it right for me?" So here's what some financial analysts are saying about the pharmaceutical industry. Pharmaceuticals have shown their defensive colors in the downturn with no sign yet of late cycle hit to revenues

47:31 Here's a UBS analyst. Our initial view was that we would see something by the third quarter, but it starting to feel like that is not going to happen in other words of downturn In fact drug sales are now expected to grow by 4 1⁄2%-5 1⁄2% this year in the all important US market according to IMS Health, the leading tracker for drugged up US market All important! It's very very important Only 6 months ago IMS was predicting a one to two percent fall And, oh man it's... Oh here. Credit Suisse analyst Catherine Arnold said the average price increase for major US drug companies in the third quarter was 8.7%.

48:09 So they're going gangbusters. Gangbusters, I tell you! And you wonder why? Yeah well you make the public sick... Yes You know, you scare them to death with swine flu crap. You make them sick with lousy food and veggies. And the next thing you know they are ill and need to take drugs Well you don't even need to take drugs but yeah No but there's soldability about the drugs They got a million commercials Yeah, I mean we play them all the time and it's just like why do you need this drug? I mean they're still there like you know the restless leg syndrome drug is a classic who develops these things. Well

48:50 Drug companies and I mean, it's just like well look. I think I got a theory here about we can we can make this drug for restless leg syndrome And there's this many people that can imagine the meetings you know what the meanings are like You're a meeting guy they go into there They get the whiteboard and they're showing the numbers of people that have restless legs Syndrome and how much money they can make per pill because it'd be ten bucks to pill and then they say well How many people can we convince have restless legs syndrome and holy mackerel? Look at the size of that market all right Let's do it Robert F. Kennedy Jr., what is his position in government? He is a representative of Robert F. Kennedy, Jr..

49:31 Okay, so he's not a... He is not somewhere in office. Well I don't know but let us look him up on Wikipedia maybe he got in somewhere? Well because you mentioned the meeting and he has been standing outside I guess the Capitol, I'm waiting for this page to load And he is all over this secret meeting that the vaccine producers had an off-site meeting known as an off site And they had this meeting where they actually discussed how to cover up the fact that the minute traces of mercury in vaccinations, not necessarily H1N1 but that they knew it causes autism. I'm going to play you a little bit because its pretty compelling stuff and you have to watch it. I'll put the link on the show notes. Thank you very much!

50:24 I'm so happy to see all of you out here today finally telling the truth to this Congress which needs to hear the truth for The first time. The government scientists are acknowledging that even tiny infinitesimal amounts of mercury, parts per billion will cause profound neurological injury in children and I was working on these issues and mothers started coming up to me and said The biggest exposure is not coming from power plants or old mining claims as you might think, it's coming from our own vaccines.

51:00 and they asked me to work on it, just to look into it. And they were not hysterical people! They were scientists, they were doctors, they were psychiatrists, they were pharmacists... They were people who had their feet on the ground. They had attended conferences, read scientific literature, calmly and deliberately gone through this and reached a conclusion And the conclusion was that the vaccines were destroying the health, were making the sickest generation of American children in the history of our country. Now listen to this shit about the meaning... I started looking into it and somebody provided me with a Simpsonwood memo

51:46 Google that John Simpson would never wish in Rolling Stone and Simpson wood was the transcripts of a secret meeting That was held between CDC and 75 representatives of the vaccine industry in which they reviewed a report that CDC had ordered the verstraten study where of the hundred thousand children in the United States vaccine safety database, and when they looked at it themselves They said it is impossible, this is a quote to massage this data to make the signal go away. I think I see little red laser dot on his forehead while he's speaking It's a little unclear in the video...it's really great speech he does and that he's really out there and this Simpson Woods memo was interesting stuff The CDC colluded with 75 vaccine manufacturers how to cover this up

52:42 You know, and then you get people like Jenny McCarthy who's married to Jim Carrey. And they have a kid with autism and then she is trying to get the message out saying hey we're giving our kids 28 vaccines before they are 18 months old You know, the logic points to some issues here and then you know just Google Jenny McCarthy. Yeah I know Jenny McCarthy is about making a big lot of noise about this yeah but she's... But they got her marginalized as a crackpot That's what i'm saying! Google nutcase or crackpot on Jenny McCarthy and she's it you know? She's oh she's crazy

53:24 That's good stuff though. I have no idea what... Well, I'm sure that with Kennedy he is a do-gooder and sincere one. I think he is wrong about a lot of stuff that we've heard him talk about but he is very socialist but he is thorough and good troublemaker because he has all kinds of creds And if he's looking into this it will be interesting to see how that works out They're going to have trouble tarring him with the Jenny McCarthy crackpot paintbrush. Well, particularly when you read this memo about the meeting that they held off-site. They held it off site specifically because then they thought there would be immune from a Freedom of Information Act request

54:16 So did you see they have now, they have like three or four five of these different swine flu vaccines. What? And the and they had all these different manufacturers list I wish i had this little article in front of me but hold on one second hold on one second So they have these, you know, SmithKline all these different companies that make this wine flue and then they said... And they have one batch of it that is the only one that is mercury free. No adjuvants and mercury free! Who do you think was the manufacturer of THAT ONE? Let me... Could it be Baxter? I just cracked up! You gotta send me that link

55:01 I'm gonna put that in the show notes. Oh Baxter who of course actually tried to kill people by spreading the live vaccine and got away with it, and their stock price is through the roof Yeah They make good stuff apparently yeah, yeah, they make the well there was another link hold on here It is San Jose Mercury News headline US could potentially use controversial adjuvants in swine flu vaccine. So of course we've been promised that no adjuvant would be put in but it's very simple to see how the strategy is going to work, oh we don't have enough vaccines people are getting sick people are dying we have... Oh my gosh! In Oklahoma there's children dropping dead on the streets. Cue up that old video again of three kids

55:50 Yeah, the Oklahoma video. So the World Health Organization estimates that a worldwide production capacity of 3 billion doses! John we are such... I mean I want to apologize to the listeners where I said you should invest in gold? I'm sorry You should have of course completely invested in these pharmaceutical companies 3 billion doses of pandemic H1N1 vaccine will be used to prevent the outbreak and spread of the 2009 h1n1 flu or swine flu. This ambitious plan for widespread vaccine, albeit inadequate for a total population of 6.8 billion people has drawn criticism regarding the vaccines safety so here's the strategy

56:34 Oh my gosh, it's working so well but people who don't have it don't have access to the vaccine. They don't have access! They're dying we only have one way to go We can produce it fast enough John Do you have an idea? Do you have a solution? We use lots of weird adjuvants The hamburger helper of the vaccine industry You know what is going to happen here because there has already been huge populations that said, look we don't want this stupid shot. And the thing that's interesting about it is that you know the swine flu came up last year and there was always this thing about like unlike every other flu for some unknown reason it doesn't go away even though the 1918 flu did had a two-year life cycle

57:21 So what you're going to run into is, I think there's going to be another round of applause for this H1N1 next year. I can almost assure you of this we can make a note put the dot on the show and by this time next year The thing will be coming around again in a more virulent form and apparently not everybody got their shots last year because they've gotta get rid of these shots you know, three four billion copies of this flu to be distributed and only sell half of it. You what are gonna do with the rest of it? Throw in the ocean? You're going need to shoot it up next year so I this was going around

58:06 And that's of course what you need the thermosyl in there for because it needs to preserve it for a year. This is a good article that's in Mercury News and of course, that'll be in show notes at noagendashow.com In testimony before Congress in 2001 The FDA needed to make a decision on the safety of adjuvants so manufacturers could know whether they could include them in vaccines or not Quote It seems that the FDA and the manufacturers have been waiting for pandemic to solve the problem for them It was going to be the avian flu, and this is testimony before Congress. No you know we discussed this I think like four or five months ago with this exact same thesis. An adjuvanted vaccine for H5N1 avian flu was approved in many countries but the disease never spread person-to-person damn damn damn dam drat back to the drawing board Baxter can you guys hook us up?

59:02 So then swine flu came along, GlaxoNervartis got another bite of the cherry and of course once the adjuvants get into licensed products in the US they'll become part of all sorts of novel vaccines for cancer and non-infectious diseases. They're just waiting to roll this shit out. It's a huge rollout! No, they need...they really want to I mean we said this before when the whole swine flu thing began which was This is a scam of some sort and the adjuvant part of it seems to be one of the elements And the fact that you know and the coincidence that all of a sudden Vax are sending out regular vaccines with H5N1 in them Which would have triggered the flu

59:42 Oh, they- no it was H1N1. No it was h5n1 I'm sure it was wasn't it? It was bird flu Irrelevant! Well besides the point they were trying to get something for spreading we feel even though NO it was an accident and you know We'll take their word for it there was no way that they could possibly be doing that so uh...we're gonna That's what we stick by although we don't believe it Just wanted to close it off That's probably best. So one more little piece of outrage which you will not hear about because, of course we're too busy talking about... Are we still talking about the Nobel Peace Prize or is it time for another? I'm not! Isn't is now isn't that time for another distraction We need another one. We need something to distract from what's happening right now Well let see Britney Spears' out of the picture so that's no good and Kate plus eight I think has lost it. I think they've lost their momentum Top Chef is doing pretty good though. Nahh..I don't watch it

1:00:42 Um, no one is talking about it but it's happening. AIG is about to hand out another round of bonuses! which averages out to about $50,000 per person in the company and even the lunch lady is getting a seven thousand dollar bonus. And of course these are retention bonuses and you know you can't have the lunch lady leaving the company. What would you do? Because it's so hard... You can't find anyone to hire because there's nobody that there's nobody unemployed amongst 20%. So while this is happening court documents

1:01:18 And this is about the previous round of bullshit bonuses. Oh crap, my browser just bricked. Core documents are showing that Bernanke and Paulson knew about the bonuses before they forced Merrill Lynch to be acquired by Bank of America And so they lied about this. These people should be fired? Well, they should be thrown in jail! They lied about it! I'm sick of this Bernanke guy! They lied here! Court documents show that federal regulators were told about billions of dollars in bonuses awarded to Merrill Lynch executives during the company's takeover by Bank of America

1:01:55 could contradicting statements by congress by federal reserve chairman ben s bernanke and former treasury secretary henry m paulson junior they knew about the twenty of about the bonuses before so that would be new it on december seventeenth weeks before the government approved the twenty billion dollar bailout and then of course when those bonuses happen like And no one's given the bonuses back remember they were supposed to give the bonuses back. No one's given the bonuses back It's all reported in mainstream news it'll be in the in the show notes at know agenda show calm Nobody seems to be outraged by anything no, but now they're about to do another round of bonuses Why not? It's just I would but how come no ones angry oh

1:02:42 I'd be glad if i was running one of these companies and looking around, looking at all these people you know scattering around worried about their shoes in the bin and all the rest of it. I just mean taking all money and passing amongst my buddies and then buying yachts boats and trips to Europe and have a great time yeah yeah you're right nobody cares nobody seems to care they don't want to do anything about looking at the books of the Fed because heaven forbid anyone do that God knows why. I mean, what are they trying to hide? That's what I hear. Now it's becoming mysterious! Our friend Slick Willie Brown said something very interesting on October 11th as he was being interviewed

1:03:24 Would you like to hear? He's been dropping little bombs here and there. It's amusing Well he dropped a rather familiar bomb. Which hasn't been spent yet I think maybe only about 20% of it has been spent, I would be doing jobs jobs jobs Jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs He either listens to our show or he probably does like hey, let me give Adam and John a little plug. They'll dig it It'll be really funny jobs. They'll be really really funny We have an international police force Set up Interpol in the United Nations are now becoming partners in fighting crime by jointly grooming a global police force that will be deployed as peacekeepers amongst rogue nations

1:04:17 Riven by war and organized crime. Hey, we should have him here Yeah, definitely in Chicago as we speak On Monday Justin is and foreign ministers from more than 60 countries including the United States And China are gathering in Singapore for a meeting hosted by the two international organizations again The UN and Interpol the first step towards creating what interpol calls a global police doctrine This is it this is what we've been talking about for two years he Two years and here it is your global police force We've got the the global finance which the g20 is going to determine how all the central banks work together But a global police force ladies and gentlemen Enjoy your shopping experience now shut up and sit down. A Global Police Force, that's a good one This is all money grab

1:05:13 Yeah, I think it's a little more than that. Power grab too, I suppose. And this is weird from the Washington Times and I've been following a couple of Kind of weird stories, but you know there was also this United Nations I think it was a UN report about the atrocities that went on during the most recent conflict between Israel and And the Palestinians in in Gaza where both sides really overstepped the boundaries of all Rules of killing people because yeah You can't kill people in a certain way. You can only kill them with like a clean shot to the head preferably too

1:05:53 So this UN report accused the Jewish state of Israel and the Palestinian state of targeting its civilians in illegal ways. And now Israel, in the Knesset is seriously considering restricting travel to Europe by senior officials and military officers fearing they might be arrested for war crimes Yeah, well this is a problem Cheney has by the way. Where is he hiding out? I think he's in the Batcave. Okay, yeah okay...I want to send you a link that you just have to take a look at if you want to know because otherwise we can't discuss it properly While your doing that I'm gonna write..we have to do a little call back here too Stanley McChrystal I just wanna read couple of paragraphs from The Free Republic

1:06:50 uh... about mccrystal he stopped the practice of flying flags at half mast every time a soldier was killed saying a force that's fighting war can't spend all its time looking back and what the costs have been His approach to challenge the standard military culture of overwhelming the enemy with superior firepower, sometimes regardless of the consequences. He has told his men to think before they shoot. In August he angered Germany by apologizing for an airstrike on two hijacked NATO fuel trucks. The strike called in by the German contingent had killed 90 people. This compassion was a long way from the reputation McChrystal had enjoyed as America's ruthless chief terrorist pursuer.

1:07:31 caught up in a scandal over torture and prisoner abuse he was apparently somehow this guy is no good His transformation, here's the quote from the piece I wanted to read. This came from The Times Online in the UK by the way and re-quoted in The Free Republic. His transformation into a quote scholar soldier is perhaps one of the greatest achievements in a remarkable career. Yeah really? And apparently his biggest fan is Bill O'Reilly Hold on John we're breaking up let me just see if I can fix this It's an audio thingy, hold on. His biggest fan is Bill O'Reilly Yeah you know you're on top then Hold on let me see if I can fix this Okay yeah it fixed it I think it fixed it Oh wow what's going on? It sounds like lightning over there Yeah it's like bits breaking up but its something internal Um...I just sent you a link and If you want to know what is actually killing our children Look at this latest ad from Ralph Lauren And this was distributed

1:08:34 I remember this. This was somebody's photoshopped ad, but i think it was actually distributed wasn't it? Yeah, not sure...I can tell whether this was a hoax and I have never gotten to the bottom of the story And this woman, you know is complaining. I don't know what the deal is with this picture We just put in the show notes and let people comment on it and we can it's a bit of business as Ralph Lauren And they got some woman Whose head is bigger than her pelvis whose head is bigger than her waist because they've shrunk her They've photoshopped her so she's like thin as a rail and minimally and It seems somewhat pointless

1:09:28 Yeah, but now everybody's up in arms about it. Well yeah but its killing our kids you know? This model who is 120 pounds and 5 foot 10 says she decided to go public after she saw the photoshopped ravaged frame. 5'10", 120 is thin! It is And she was fired for being too fat I don't believe this...I think there's something wrong with this story I think there's a missing piece of the puzzle She maybe was fired for other reasons Who knows But being 5'10 and 120, I don't know if there's any models that listen to the show. Ha! But there might be? Give us the current stats on what is expected. I know it used to be 58-105, you run into that but 5'10 you can carry 120 and still be thin as a rail. Not that I care. Before we get to our producer credits for todays show John,

1:10:23 Open up discussion with you about what's really going on with Russia with Iran and China And the US of course Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was in Russia the other day, and she's not just there to check out the borscht Okay There's reasons why these people travel to those countries much as she likes more She's totally into that shit. As she said I so into that shit Gazprom of course just closed a 25 billion dollar deal with China to deliver gas to them. And this is where Iran comes into play because, I think we can learn from a little bit of history that the whole idea now they're not calling it weapons of mass destruction but they are calling it nuclear devices

1:11:15 and that Iran is going to blow us up, and they're gonna blow up Israel. And they are going to nuke everybody! We have to stop them, we have to sanction them... All this crap that's going on. The Russians are basically saying I don't think so because were actually doing some pretty good business you know? And we want to keep things kinda cool but who needs the Iranian... Iran by the way has the world's largest natural gas reserves, estimated 991 trillion cubic feet. And who needs that? Who needs that John? The Europeans need it. Yeah the Europeans do need it They need it desperately and there is actually a shift going on I'm seeing in all the newspapers now that oil is above 70 bucks its borders at 73 75 somewhere in that region

1:12:08 At an all-time low at the moment, gas. Natural gas is at an all time low and I think that what's really going to happen is a lot of countries are desperately trying to switch to natural gas because it's just that much cheaper. And let's face in the United States we got tons of natural gas. We wouldn't need anything from anybody. We could completely be self sustainable I think.

1:12:45 oil deposits that is almost as big as Saudi Arabia, that hasn't even been touched. So let's put the pieces on the board it's undeniable now and there are just too many really serious reports coming out that the oil trade is now being switched to euros and the yuan and baskets of currencies that include gold I mean everyone's talking about it No matter how much Gibbs stands up on the podium and denies that it's happening. Everyone is switching to stronger currencies. By the way, does Gibbs seem coked up to you? Totally! Maybe he is on E. Sometimes he looks like he is on an MDMA trip

1:13:25 But he has a kind of voice that's not, Doc can breathe through his nose a lot of the time and when he talks there is nothing coming out of the nose thing. So you guys have got that kind of sound do you know what I'm saying? We should totally pay attention to that we should look if he is doing some nose touching now I'll make my mission for this week so Iran is becoming incredibly important meanwhile in the US if we actually want to switch to building this whole new gas infrastructure we need to finance it We really need to finance it and who's going to do that? That's typically China, who aren't financing it anymore. So we're kind of in this race I think somehow

1:14:05 for the US to switch to natural gas since our currency is not even slowly but moderately quickly becoming no longer the reserve currency of the world, that's the euro which by the way is not all that good for Europe. That has its own implications and problems. Well I've always believed that...I thought this was going to happen last time the dollar folded and if you remember about a year or so, couple years ago when all of the sudden the pound fell like a rock and the euro was falling really fast and the dollar was picking up steam. Remember that? And then you know boom it turned right back around The dollars in the toilet, the euros are $1.47, $1.50 That means you have to pay 50% more for stuff in Europe It's ridiculous! Then the pound is kind of holding its own at about $1.60

1:14:50 So, the dollar starts collapsing again and we're supposed to have a strong dollar policy. How about this for an interesting scenario? The world changes its – the dollar keeps kind of declining and it looks weak and weak and weak so I said screw the dollar. We're losing our butts being in this thing. Let's switch over to the euro by high sell low. So, switch over to the Euro and do all these contracts in Euros with the oil so that let's say you buy X amount for 2 euros. And then all of a sudden, once that's all established the dollar skyrockets in value because you can turn it up and down through different kinds of policies. The next thing we're getting our oil at half price because it's all well I'm sorry if you want to be with the euro! Then we end up getting a really good deal economy gets cranked up again and were back on top and everybody realizes that we've screwed the world financially once more which were really good at by the way have lotsa confidence so we can do that kinda thing

1:15:52 And by the way, I'd just like to point out when you hear all this great talk about a jobless recovery which is ludicrous. A jobless recovery because the Dow was at 10,000 but if you calculate the dollar value, the Dow is really like it's 7500. It's not the same 10000 as it was two years ago. It's a different 10000 because the dollars just worth that much less. You still beside the point this thing is overpriced but the jobless recovery thing is just and they keep talking about it as if it was a good thing. It's a meme, yeah just trying hey it's good hey we our economy has recovered too bad you can't eat motherfucker! The US Federal Energy Regulatory Commission just stated at the World Gas Conference in Buenos Aires that the U.S may never need new coal or nuclear plants ever again based upon

1:16:47 Our switch our Possible potential switch to natural gas and by the way cars run on that too. Yeah, it's good stuff You can do a lot with it and I think it's pretty clean John am I wrong? No is an outstanding product I think it's so biased. In fact, you could actually light your house with it. They used to as a matter of fact years ago before electricity everything was lit. Gas lamps yeah. Have a little gas lamp in the house So this is the kind of stuff that we consistently look into. We have a couple things that we have to do this week. I will be watching a lot of C-SPAN 3 which is only online by the way Watching all Robert Gibbs presentations to see if he's coked out or not and I actually take that on as a challenge

1:17:30 He sounds that way and just considering his job, he might be. But we spend a lot of time looking into this stuff. John does another show with Andrew Horowitz to talk specifically about the markets and the economy and how the money flows are going. And the type of analysis were giving you even if it's not true that Norwegian Chicago connection I think its worth more investigation or keep on that We do the work We do the work and we don't let ourselves get interrupted by stupid ass commercials, or let ourselves be limited by not being able to talk about certain things that would piss off advertisers. And the only way we can keep doing it is by you donating to this show. It's just like PBS only were not corrupt. Right and we don't necessarily... Well we don't have any underwriters or anybody that can tell us what we can or cannot say

1:18:26 In fact, let me go over this. We didn't actually get a lot of money in this last week I'm kind of disappointed but we did have some enough to get by and let me name few people John Traynor Wilmington Delaware $50 then we had Samuel Vander Plank and we didn't get much overseas money for we had just one and this is it Samuel Vander Plank who's in I guess his Leaper Belgium LEPER labor. Yeah, yeah he's gave us $77 and 70 cents and he wanted to mention the anti-censorship thing going on in Switzerland on October 31st and you should go to anti-zensure z e n s u r

1:19:08 Z-E-N-S-U-R dot info. That's anti dash zensur dot info and there is something going on in Europe that we need to catch up to Aaron Tulin gave us 50 bucks and he wants us to mention surly trader S-U-R-L-Y trader.com and he's in Lawrenceville, Georgia and apparently are mentioning that is a wedding gift to somebody. Oh that's nice! Timothy Tillman Midlothian Virginia gave us $100 Kenneth Kielholtz in Hamilton, Ohio gave us 75. And Dr. Nenninger's Natural Meds in Port Jefferson New York gave us 51-51. Thank you! And then again here we go again Sterling Ellsworth once again

1:19:58 repeats his $77.77 donation from Santa Barbara and I've come to the conclusion that he's going to obviously do this, this is a third time maybe he's gonna do it...I'm kind of guessing he's gonna do this like seven times It's a hostile takeover He's gonna do this like seven times and then he's got some lucky number thing And then he is going to go to the horse track Go to the seventh race set horse number seven and bet on horse number seven, and you know what's gonna happen I win it all back. It's gonna come in seventh And finally

1:20:38 I love it. Bruce sack a second sec got you know, I had to pronunciation down and blew it. So coach yo I think it's the SACC OCC IO which I think is a coach yo or so kachio probably so kachio that would be that sounds right who gave us 7733 to mention the fact that you mentioned 7733 is a Masonic number. Yes And he did some research and discovered that many, if not most of the Masonic lodges their phone number usually incorporates 7733 Absolutely I think the Masons would actually be on our side on this show Oh probably Thanks Bruce

1:21:25 So that's our donor should it be. That's it? Yeah, that's all we got I just did want to mention that besides the AIG bonuses coming out Goldman Sachs who of course actually were failed and then they turned they were allowed to turn into a regular bank and holding bank and they got billions of dollars and were bailed out and they got 8 billion of the AIG bailout put directly into their coffers They're about to hand out 20 billion dollars in bonuses to themselves as we are, you know at the... How come we're not working for them? It's our destiny John. It is our destiny We could be in Paris right now sipping Beaujolais Hey pretty soon I'm gonna hook up that Cabernet sipping session for ya though

1:22:13 What Cabernet sipping session? With Kim Jong-il. Oh, oh right! Right right I was just yeah... It's not Cabernet, it was Bordeaux. You know it's Bordeaux as a blend so.. I thought he had Cabernet, is it Bordeaux? Yes Bordeaux, he has a Bordeaux nut. Oh I'm sorry I thought it was Cabernet, well I'm glad you corrected me. No Cabernet with... Please, it's got to be Bordeaux hold on what by the way I want people who go to the dwarf org slash Obama's at Union Square? Yeah, Obama is at Union Square today. What's he doing on Union Square? Is shopping it Neiman Marcus? No, he just did... Obama came in the San Francisco to disrupt traffic Oh! How is the traffic darling? By the way, is he ever in Washington anymore as you know? He's not in Washington, he has nothing to do there And which of Obama is this? Is this the gray-haired Obama or black-haired Obama? Which Obama is that? The black haired Obama or the grey haired Obama

1:23:07 Oh, she says the one with the green hair. The Chia Pet Obama Yeah, Obama's in San Francisco Anyway I just want to make people aware of that noagendashow.com is where they can contribute to this show I wish you would go there immediately or dvork.org slash today And why don't you give us a bonus this week? Give us a little bonus we deserve a bonus there must be somebody there that works for one of these big companies they could just throw a few thousand bucks and become knights yet you'll become a night to become the producer of uh... we can make it executive producer of the entire show who was our executive producer again john this week The executive producer was Timothy Tillman. And his contribution was? It was a hundred. So it's, and we really appreciate it. He got in under the wire usually that's rare where you don't get somebody who can beat that Yeah usually its little bit higher but consider giving us a bonus I think it would be great incentive I'd feel really good and otherwise you know just might have to go become the sandwich lady because she is getting seven grand

1:24:05 A sandwich lady. I'm telling you! Here's your tip, honey! Good job! It's a retention bonus We have to give these people bonuses because otherwise they wouldn't want to do this crappy job at AIG Well we're being scammed Yeah Ladies and gentlemen Yes we are So remember You can leave your laptop in the bag and put your shoes on the belt not in the bin Yeah Try that in Oakland And enjoy your shopping experience Coming to you from the minimum containment center cell crackpot command thingy with twins Pictures coming soon at no agenda show calm. I'm Adam curry and from the northern Silicon Valley Climbs which are overcast and miserable today as a matter of fact, I'm John C Dvorak and we'll talk to you again on Sunday right here on NOA Agenda

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