Episode 1340 · Thursday, 22 April 2021

The Poke

A massive surge in Austin's murder rate follows police budget cuts while Apple's monetization bugs and the rise of digital currencies signal a shift in global control.

By The No Agenda Show | 3h 12m listen | 55 chapters
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About this episode

EPA Administrator Michael Regan and President Joe Biden face intense scrutiny over a climate agenda aiming to eliminate internal combustion vehicles by 2030. The administration's push for a 50% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions draws sharp comparisons to the 2009 Cash for Clunkers program, which critics argue decimated the used car market while providing negligible environmental benefits. Meanwhile, the Australian government has officially vetoed the state of Victoria's Belt and Road agreement with China, sparking a diplomatic row with Beijing over national interests and global influence.

In the wake of the Derek Chauvin verdict, Representative Maxine Waters faces a potential mistrial request after Judge Peter Cahill criticized her rhetoric as grounds for appeal. Democratic leaders including Nancy Pelosi and Sunny Hostin have sparked further debate by framing the trial outcome as a sacrifice for justice rather than a standard legal proceeding. In Austin, Texas, the murder rate has surged by 50% following a $149 million police budget cut, while local voters prepare to decide on Prop B to address sprawling homeless encampments. Technical failures at Apple have also disrupted the podcast industry, as a buggy monetization rollout broke third-party apps and forced creators toward the independent Podcast Index.

Rick Steves describes his vaccination experience as a religious-like endorphin rush while NPR introduces the concept of malinformation to describe factually true stories that create a warped reality. John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry analyze the rise of institutional real estate investors and the potential for Apple AirTags to become a ubiquitous surveillance network. The program concludes with the knighting of Sir Seat Sitter and a musical tribute to the confrontational rhetoric of Maxine Waters.


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CHAPTER 01 / 55 Discussion

Bitcoin Price Drop, Leo Moon Astrology

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program from Austin and Silicon Valley, noting Bitcoin's drop to $54,643. They discuss a listener's observation regarding their shared Leo Moon astrological sign and the positive vibes predicted for the show.

bitcoin· leo moon· astrology· birth charts· austin texas

00:00 Hey Bill, what happened to Jim? He's dead? Oh, the vaccine must have been working. Saving the Earth and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where the Zephyr just went by one minute late, I'm John C. DuBois. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. All right everybody, it's time once again for one of those updates. What do we have on the Zephyr? What is the economic update from the Zephyr?

00:41 Eight cars, eight cars without the mail car. Eight cars without the mail car work somewhat stable I guess. Bitcoin down 54,643. Oh my god! Woo! Listen to that horn! If you're new to the show. Why is that always funny? I don't know. I don't know. If you're new to the show we don't always start that way. But there's so much good news and so much to talk about. I'm so happy to report that both you and I have Leo Moon and the universe right now is in Leo Moon which means it should be great time for us. Leo Moon? Yeah, I don't know what that is. Explain. I don't know what it is. The occult fan who's been around for the show for a long time said I'd love to do your birth charts because this is great you guys are on a great track the vibes are fantastic.

CHAPTER 02 / 55 Discussion

NBC Morning Show, Organ Donation and John Travolta

A review of NBC's morning broadcast highlights a tragic story about a young girl at Disney World whose organs were donated. The segment transitioned abruptly to a puff piece featuring John Travolta dancing with Princess Diana, drawing criticism for the jarring shift in tone.

nbc· disney world· organ donation· john travolta· princess diana

01:35 Yeah, okay. Well I can tell you what the vibes were for the three morning shows I watched today in my normal fashion. Please do tell us about the morning shows in your 3x3 report. And I've decided to give an award to the best of the three. Oh, I don't know if I have award sounds. No, don't worry about it. We'll worry about that later. I'm just gonna tell you. Alright. Okay, here we go. So the three morning shows going on today, I had to go back to NBC twice because I kept and write it down I couldn't remember it. And this I noticed is the same with all these shows. You can't really remember it's almost like a daze you're getting when you watch these stupid shows. Well, I have to remind everybody Google or search for the Zen TV experiment and you'll see what television is actually doing to your brain and how you're tuning out.

02:27 So the NBC folk had a report on some poor little girl who died at Disney World. Oh no. And gave up her organs to some other little black boy. Ah, thank goodness. Jeez, that was... oh man. And she did that on purpose? After she died, she had a codacil? The mom had to go through a tribulation to give up the organs of the little girl, but she did it. But then they cut right to a puff piece about John Travolta dancing with Princess Di once some years ago. Is a movie coming out and we have to prove he's not gay?

CHAPTER 03 / 55 Discussion

ABC Morning Show, Oscar Safety and Spanking Experts

ABC's morning coverage focused on safety protocols for the upcoming Academy Awards and a controversy regarding an actress's Instagram post about spanking. Experts were brought on to debate the merits of physical discipline for children.

abc· the oscars· safety protocols· spanking· instagram

03:05 Maybe and then then they said we're gonna be right back with them with this summer day news on Bill Nye So they had a science segment nice All right NBC. Oh, that's award-winning right there in my book. Yeah, it's a very celebrity or any of stuff for the little girl ABC meanwhile I had a report on safety at the Oscars And, oh, how these celebrities are going to be, how they're going to be safe so we don't have to worry about them because there's not going to be anybody there. So... No, I thought there was going to be a hundred and seventy and they're going to rotate them out and they're going to ask people to wear their masks during the commercial breaks. But don't worry, don't worry.

03:52 Don't worry, it's gonna be safe for the celebrities. Well, it has to be safe for the celebrities because if they die, no one will see it because no one is watching these shows anymore. I agree. But then they cut from that to a special on spanking because some Hispanic actress, whose name I can't remember, didn't write down and never heard of, had said something about spanking on her Insta. Oh, noes. And so now everybody's all aflutter about spanking, so they brought a bunch of experts in to tell this actress that she should be spanking her kid. She's bad, she's bad, yeah. Then CBS, which gets the award of the day, did a very long piece

CHAPTER 04 / 55 Discussion

CBS Morning Show, Offshore Wind Power Failure

CBS receives a mock award for a report on offshore wind power and President Biden's green energy agenda. The hosts criticize the report for failing to mention the high failure and corrosion rates of turbines in the United Kingdom or the impact of hurricanes on Atlantic wind farms.

cbs· wind power· joe biden· offshore turbines· united kingdom

04:38 on wind power off the eastern coast and how beneficial it would be to set up these wind turbines along the east coast and how everybody else and they get compared to what they're doing in New York to China to us we suck at offshore wind power we only have Yeah, like 40 watts or something. Yeah, we need more ugly things in the ocean. Yeah, we so we got it. We're going to put them up and down the East Coast because Biden, they go on Biden is such a great president. He foresaw all this and he's going to demand that we put all these wind things up. Nobody in the report though very inner by the way, very educational report. I give him credit for that.

05:16 But they never measure what happens if a hurricane hits one of these farms. Well, first of all, congratulations on their 3x3 award. That's fantastic. All you have to do is look at the coast of the United Kingdom, if you recall. When I lived there, they were putting these windmills up and they were never on. I was flying over them all the time. I remember I was flying to the mainland. They were never turning. Most of them are broken. They corrode really quickly. There's lots of documentaries about what an incredible failure these offshore windmills are. And they're a scourge. I mean, it's just this big sea of windmills. It's not nice to look at. It's not pretty.

06:01 Well, they showed the maps of all these windmills off stuff all these shores and they emphasize how great they are out of off of England's coast Yeah, well, they're not so you just you just Kind of condemned the report. Yes. Yeah. Yeah good. They still get the award for this It was somewhat I didn't I didn't condemn your report. I condemned their report. I No, that's what I said. You condemned their report. Yeah, your report is fantastic. They didn't discuss any of the downsides. They didn't discuss the hurricanes. They didn't discuss these bogus ones off the coast of England you kept seeing. But it was still a good report.

CHAPTER 05 / 55 Discussion

Earth Day History, South Park Brainwashing Satire

The program marks the 21st anniversary of Earth Day by revisiting a 20-year-old South Park clip satirizing "Earth Day Brainwashing." NBC's Al Roker is criticized for his presentation style during climate change specials.

earth day· south park· global warming· al roker· nbc

06:41 I enjoyed it. This kind of stuff, if people are watching this in the morning, what are they eating? Like bubble gum on top of their cereal? I mean, you can't be healthy if you're... I'm eating bubble gum cereal. Yeah, I mean, you can't be in your right mind. You're right. It sounds like you're chewing bubble gum and then twirling your beads. Twirling your beads. Well, it is Earth Day and we... typically you miss Earth Day. I'm not sure how that happens. It does fall on show days regularly. So today is the big day. And this nonsense has been going on for 20 years that we've been making... 21. Is it 21 years? Well, let's go back 20 years ago. And I can't even believe South Park was on the air 20 years ago. But that's... it's probably been on the air longer.

07:29 And this is what South Park was saying about Earth Day 20 years ago. Alright children, let's settle down. As you know, this coming Friday is Earth Day. And I'm pleased to announce that the National Earth Day Organization has chosen South Park as its location for the Earth Day Brainwashing Festival. The heads of the Earth Day Brainwashing Organization are here to tell you all about it. Hello children, I know you're all very excited about having the Earth Day Brainwashing Festival put on in your town. You care very much about the Earth, don't you? Yes! And 20 years ago, already, the message was in and being driven home. Excuse me? My daddy is a geologist and he says there actually isn't any concrete evidence of global warming. That's not true. Global warming is going to kill us all. The Republicans are responsible. Thank you. 20 years ago, oh yeah. No, it's true. Republicans are ruining the Earth. Republicans are ruining the Earth!

08:29 Those guys knew it man. They knew what was going on. I got an NBC report regarding Earth Day or I would say it's more a part of a special because we have to spend some time on Earth Day and when we spend time on Earth Day we have to bring out the guy who reads the weather, Al Roker, the biggest dick in New York show business. I've worked with him. Very arrogant. We'll steal lines from you, we'll step in front of you. You know those kinds of people in show business who do that? Yeah. Yeah, they're always very successful too. They're in regular life too, just to remind you. Oh yeah, oh yeah. And these people are very successful, but wow, what a dick.

CHAPTER 06 / 55 Discussion

EPA Administrator Michael Regan, Biden Climate Agenda

EPA Administrator Michael Regan discusses President Biden's goal to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 50% by 2030. Regan outlines plans to use regulatory pressure to transition traditional internal combustion engine vehicles off the road in favor of electric alternatives.

michael regan· epa· joe biden· greenhouse gas· internal combustion engine

09:11 So Al Roker gave us a little bit of info about what the fab Biden, Build Back Biden Better administration is doing to combat climate change. Climate change is reshaping the country's landscape and coastlines. Science is telling us that time for action is quickly running out. The man tasked with combating this emergency and carrying out President Biden's ambitious climate agenda is Michael Regan, the new Environmental Protection Agency administrator. How urgent is our position as far as our climate is concerned? We're facing a climate crisis, no doubt. Ooh, ooh, violation.

09:52 I guess he didn't get the memo. It's supposed to be climate emergency, not climate crisis. Tsk, tsk, tsk. We're facing a climate crisis, no doubt. And if we rally the world, it's not too late. All eyes are on the administration ahead of this week's Earth Day. Why is he talking like he's on PBS? Well, because it's a very serious topic and Al Roker only gets to do a special once a year around Earth Day. And he likes to show off his prowess for voiceovers. So maybe the network will use him more often. announced the nation's new commitment to cutting greenhouse gas emissions. I think that the president is going to announce a really ambitious number. Reductions of 50% or more are possible, nearly doubling President Obama's pledge in 2015. Reductions of 50% or more, okay. And there's ground to make up, where the past four years of environmental deregulation and inaction has left its mark.

10:47 The EPA is also part of the president's trillion dollar infrastructure plan. Money budgeted for climate related projects in the billions. Reagan confirming his agency is in talks with US automakers about transitioning traditional fuel burning cars off the road. How are you going to nudge those combustion engine vehicles off the road when they're lasting 10, 12, 15 years? We're having those conversations right as we speak. It's our job to be sure that we set the rules of the road so that they have the right amount of pressure to move and get there as quickly as possible. So that was interesting. Cars last 10-15 years. How are you going to get those newer cars off the road? With the ambitious plan, of course, and the billions and billions of dollars.

CHAPTER 07 / 55 Discussion

Cash for Clunkers, Obama Era Auto Subsidy

The hosts reminisce about the 2009 "Cash for Clunkers" program, characterizing it as a taxpayer-funded scam that destroyed the used car market. They argue the program failed to provide real economic benefit while wasting functional vehicles.

cash for clunkers· barack obama· auto industry· taxpayer money· 2009

11:36 Do you remember that period where Obama set up some... turn your junk car in? Oh yeah, the clunkers for junk... no, clunkers. Junkers for progress. And so the people would just find old wrecked cars and drag them in and you get some $1,500 or $2,000 credit or something like that. That's right! And there were no more junkers for sale. I remember that was a crisis. People couldn't buy second-hand cars. Gosh, what's secondhand junkers? That must have been right after was that after the financial crisis was that one of the I think it was around 2009-10 yeah cash for clunk I'd forgotten all about clunkers. That's what I'd forgotten all about that. Holy crap

12:26 What a good one that was. That was a classic. I mean, all it did was... And then they have the audacity to say, well, you know, we saved the American auto industry. Yeah, by... with taxpayer money, with... for buying junk. We literally threw that money away. Yeah. That's crazy. There was plenty of two, $300 cars sold for like $1,500, whatever the going price was. It was a scam. It's a feel-good scam. That was the idea. So I was I had hoped to show off a little bit of my theremin skills. Yes, you already heard them during the pre-stream. So yes, I know. Well, you could show them off in the second half of the show because I understand you have some pretty good

CHAPTER 08 / 55 Discussion

Apple Podcast Monetization Bug, Podcast Index Utility

Apple's new podcast monetization system launched with a major bug that caused many independent podcasts to disappear from the directory. The technical failure highlights the importance of the independent Podcast Index as Apple's API changes broke third-party apps like Overcast.

apple· podcasting· rss feed· marco arment· podcast index

13:15 Oh yeah, I do have a... but you know, what is not possible is I can't have the microphone talk and accompany myself on the theremin at the same time because the theremin, turns out, interacts with a lot of different things, including microphones and movement and... But the reason is perhaps more exciting as I was saving podcasting. Holy crap! Did you see what happened? In the past 36 hours? What? So Apple announced this new podcast monetization system. Yes, I know this. Yeah. And typical, you know, they launch something and then people go and sign up and then things don't work. But things don't work is an understatement.

14:07 The minute you say oh, yeah, I want to do this and you click on your feed You say I want to make my feed accessible with monetization you click that box Immediately you disappear from the Apple app and from any other podcast app out there. There's some horrible bug that That just you know, of course, you know how people are. Oh, this is new toy shiny from Apple click boom gone. I So people are flipping out. That's exactly what happened. Yeah, they're flipping out. But something even worse happened. As it turns out, with this new feature... Wait, can I guess what's worse? Well, it's not worse for independence, but it's not a surprise, but yeah, guess. Purple iPhone.

14:55 You know, I noticed that when when Tim Cook talks if you saw his his little presentation He keeps putting his hands in a praying position and he got a little off to the side like and we at Apple We really hub and he uses and he puts his hands together like he's praying all the time. Yes, it's very You're right. He is praying. All right. No, but here's what happened. So with this new system when you opt into it your Your entry in the Apple index, the Apple database of all podcasts changes. And it changes in a manner that external applications, podcast apps that want to, you know, that need to look up your show can no longer find your RSS feed and other vital information.

15:46 So, they, in fact this happened to the developer of Overcast, Marco Armet, which is probably the biggest independent app out there. And he's always been connected to the, he gets all his information from the Apple index. And this change happened, his own show doesn't even show up in his own app. And so, yeah. Wow, that's irony. Yeah, so now everyone's jumping over to podcastindex.org where we didn't expect it to happen this way, but this is exactly what we thought would happen. Is one day Apple's gonna wake up and say, fuck those guys, I'm gonna turn it off. And I just wanted to explain what I think happened, and I think you can back this up with your extensive knowledge of Silicon Valley. Apple, they're not, this is not really a customer organization.

16:37 Yeah, they talk about their customers and our customers and our customers. But if you have a problem, it's go to the Genius Bar. And that's what's going to happen with this podcast problem. Hey, man, my podcast is not available. Oh, make an appointment with the Genius Bar. Watch. That's how stupid this is. But those are those are customers and you have to pay for this system. And so Apple communicates with them. And I got an email. Hey, podcaster, we're going to tell you about this new stuff. And it's probably going on right now. They just started, actually. So that's the Apple customer, who is not a customer of Apple.

17:15 is these app developers. They don't pay Apple to use their API. It was just an accident that it was available. And so within Apple, when these changes occurred, there was no one representing app developers who were sucking off this index. And so they weren't considered and it just got turned off overnight. It's just, it's a complete mess and they're not going to try and fix that. So with some from the future foresight, this podcast index.org turns out to be a lifesaver. I mean, we've, we've, like big shows are just gone, not available on any app anywhere. Wow. Yeah. Well, you lucked out. What do you mean lucked out?

CHAPTER 09 / 55 Discussion

Spotify Competition, Silicon Valley Groupthink

The discussion explores how Apple's move into podcast hosting was a fear-based response to Spotify's market expansion. The hosts warn that Apple's lack of customer support and potential use of DRM in hosted files threatens the open nature of the medium.

spotify· silicon valley· podcast hosting· drm· libsyn

17:57 You got the you got you got the index there for people to I mean hey all back on anyone's paying us for this. I'm just saying a podcasting lucked out That's what happened. Well, they're not paying you but eventually you're gonna monetize this thing and screw them just like Apple did Since you just expose my exit strategy I'm cutting you out of the deal Dvorak horrible man So, but this again, when you asked about the Silicon Valley methodologies and

18:33 Apple's, you know, was threatened by all these articles written by Spotify. A lot of them planted, a lot of them native ads. And my favorite one which I had, I was gonna post it on Mastodon was how Spotify's changing the landscape of podcasting and things will never be the same. And it was on and on and on by some guy, doesn't know what he's talking about. I'm looking at this, this is bull crap, this article. But the problem in Silicon Valley is that they all, from the same trough and they all it's a group think mentality down there and if this kind of thing catches hold this idea that Spotify is changing things

19:15 Apple would respond to it and that's what they did. They out of fear fear-based Decision-making is very common in Silicon Valley And here's here's something that I kind of knew but really learned more about the typical podcaster who is with you know any number of independent hosts such as you know Blueberry, Libsyn, Buzzsprout. Podbean. Podbean. No, Podbean is a little different. But, it's because Apple is now also offering hosting of your entire show, all your files. You upload raw WAV files and they compress it, which any audio guy like I would never do. Of course, they also compress in some DRM, but they're hosting.

20:03 And in talking to almost every single hosting company there is, it turns out that what they do most is education. People have no clue what they're doing. They have teams 24-7. All they do is just, okay, calm down. Did you click this? You know, unplug it. Stand on one foot. And that's what people need. I mean, they're also very passionate about this shit. And if it doesn't work, they get very nervous and confused. Apple can't handle that. And by the way, you said right at the beginning the theme of this whole little presentation is that they're not customer oriented. Yeah. Hey, thanks for calling Apple. I could have told you all of this. Idiots, man. Idiots. Anyway, go podcasting independent. By the way, I will say this right off the bat that the idea of them hosting dumb. Of course, you recognize this. You know what's happening.

CHAPTER 10 / 55 Discussion

Mask Mandate Observations, Regional COVID Compliance

Observations from travels through Texas, Tennessee, and New Orleans reveal a lack of mask compliance compared to the rigid enforcement in New York City and California. A producer's report details the varying social pressures regarding masking across different US regions.

texas· california· new orleans· mask mandates· social distancing

21:03 Man, Keeper and I went to house hunting yesterday. Oh, in the woods out in the West Country. Hill Country. Hill Country. Yep. And man, the first thing you notice, you don't have to drive more than half an hour outside of Austin. No masks. Everybody's walking around, it's all groovy, you know, there's signs here, handwritten sign, you know, we're a mask optional facility. You know, we had dinner, no masks. It was so nice to be served by someone whose face I could see. That was, and you notice that, you're like, wow, look at all these faces. Yes, whoo, yeah.

21:46 Too bad we have nothing like that in any part of California that I know of although I have to say I've not visited the Central Valley lately It is which is worth which would be hill country. Yeah for us. It's incredible how this is so concentrated in fact, I got a note from I remember our producers Sonny who is driving doing the the classic driving around the the USA and like Route 66 kind of trip? Yes, one of those trips. And Sonny says, just checking in a little third of the way on my trip. I met with Dame Jennifer and some of the Lowcountry bunch in Charleston, blah, blah, blah. So, you know, different meetups. It's very interesting to see how different states in the South and East are handling the masking. So here's a boots on the ground from someone who's comparing it in real time. Like this is something that typically a journalist might do. Oh, my God.

22:40 It's been interesting to see how different states in the South and East are handling the masking. In New Orleans, pretty much no one was wearing one or cared. While in North Carolina, they were far more rigid, at least the few places I went to seemed to be. Tennessee lifted the mask mandate and occupancy limitations the day I left, and I was only asked to put on a mask at one store in Gatlinburg. Whereas while I was in Williamsport, Maryland, I went out to karaoke and ended up at this smaller dive bar that was packed to the gills without a mask in sight. But New York City, a whole different kind of animal. Everyone was wearing a mask, everywhere. I respect businesses that choose to enforce mask wearing, but I refused to wear one walking outside. And let me tell you, I got plenty of different kinds of looks as I was wandering around. Some were very friendly, like the protesters in Central Park, and some were more critical looking. I was never accosted by anyone, but there were lots of folks, particularly in Times Square, that were giving me the, what the hell's wrong with you look.

23:34 I was pleasantly surprised with all the dog walking I saw that no pooch was masked up. Wait for it, wait for it. I got a report from somebody who went to Oklahoma and the whole state is that way. They didn't wear masks, they didn't care. It was just so interesting that in Texas that it's right in Austin where you know just wear your mask. And masks are down below the noses. And it's complete virtue signaling. No one is worried about this. No one. Just before I move on about the home buying, because what's happening is it's out of control. I mean, we're set to make, I don't know, like some insane 40% profit on our home if we sell it. It's just crazy. And so I mentioned to you that this was likely banks that were buying this.

CHAPTER 11 / 55 Discussion

Real Estate Investment Trusts, Single Family Rentals

Institutional investors and Real Estate Investment Trusts (REITs) are reportedly buying up single-family homes to convert them into permanent rentals. This trend is linked to the World Economic Forum's "Great Reset" concept where individuals own no property.

reit· blackrock· goldman sachs· housing market· world economic forum

24:32 and screwing millennials out of any opportunity to get on the property ladder. It turns out it's even worse, as one of our producers, Anonymous, jumps in he says I have standing in this area I've had a front-row seat since this shift began in the industry really about seven years ago. There are institutions buying up a huge amount of the inventory but it's not the banks per se. Goldman, JP Morgan, etc. may be part of the financing or providing lines of credit for these companies but they are not buying anything themselves. The buyers are called single-family rental REITs.

25:13 So that's FFR. Do you call them REITs or just R-E-I-T? What do you call those? The Real Estate Investment Trust? REITs. REITs is used loosely as it is a specific real estate investment vehicle and some of these buyers are just private equity funds that would not technically qualify as a REIT. These funds are purchasing the properties to rent them out and will only sell a small handful of underperforming assets but otherwise plan to hold them indefinitely. Several have also gotten into the build-to-rent space, where they are either building new construction on individual lots, which will then be a rental, or in some cases they're building entire rental neighborhoods. Some of the larger institutions are in—this is for DH, I'm plugged, I should send you guys this—invitation homes, American Homes for Rent, Tricon Residential, Main Street Renewal—oh, that's sick.

26:02 Progress Residential, First Key Homes, which is owned by Cerberus Capital Management. We know Cerberus, run by Dan Quayle, one of the biggest companies in the world, for a boob. And most operate in Phoenix, Tampa, Atlanta, South Florida, Dallas, Houston, Denver, Vegas, Austin, Charlotte, Raleigh, Orlando, Nashville, and others. And this is, this is I feel very, very bad because this is going to... this is exactly what the World Economic Forum has predicted. You're not going to own anything slave. Not because you won't, don't want to, because you can't. And people are talking about prices doubling in the next year. Doubling! What is going on? What is going on? Well, it's... these things blow up, of course, because these ideas aren't perpetual. Right, but that'll cause a huge crash if that happens, won't it?

CHAPTER 12 / 55 Discussion

Opportunity Zone 33, CNN Campfire Reporting

A discussion on the state of "Opportunity Zone 33" leads to a critique of CNN's reporting on Minneapolis protests. The hosts mock a news clip that characterized a street fire started by protesters as a "small campfire to stay warm."

opportunity zone· cnn· minneapolis· protests· arson

26:55 I don't know. I don't know what's gonna maybe should just sit tight and then make even more money when you sell the house if you can but then again there's always the up there's a collapse that's what I'm saying eventually has got to be a clap who knew that my exit strategy would be the house most people's exit strategies the house yeah that's why it's a shame that the Millennials haven't been able to get in on this yeah the property ladder is important Yeah, and if you're locked out of it by these creeps, I think it's time to maybe start burning some places. How do you mean that? I didn't say that. I'm sorry. I said it. Okay. Well, places are going to burn, no doubt. I think what's happening around here is, you know, because I see this as opportunity zone, I see new stuff going up, which will be affordable housing. I think they're going to torch the old stuff.

27:47 I mean, they can't get rid of it, so might as well. Maybe start a little Black Lives Matter riot here in Opportunity Zone 33. Get something going. Because you know, if you light a fire, during a protest, you know, it's okay. Oh, yeah. Here's here's proof from CNN. They moved in from two different directions. Some of the protesters had started a small campfire to stay warm in the middle of the street and shortly after that... Sure, CNN. The protesters in Minneapolis start a small fire just to keep warm in the middle of the street. Mm-hmm. That's where you typically do it.

CHAPTER 13 / 55 Discussion

OJ Simpson, Derek Chauvin Trial Commentary

OJ Simpson released a video commentary on the Derek Chauvin trial, arguing that the force used against George Floyd was unnecessary. Simpson also defended Maxine Waters' comments, suggesting she was calling for political action rather than violence.

oj simpson· derek chauvin· george floyd· maxine waters· twitter

28:28 Jeez, yeah, so the United States has been just inundated with this with this trials and just you know every other second there's a there's a black person who's been killed by a white cop and it's it's just trauma here at trauma everywhere Which it's just traumatizing what they're doing here. So not okay Well, I would say I would just show you how everyone's trying to get in on the act Regarding the trial, I think we got it. The guy who would know the most about this sort of thing. About a trial? About trials, about everything. He's pretty much the most worldly guy and he comes on, he does it for free. He gives us advice for free on Twitter. And this is OJ.

29:22 uh... you gotta love america paid for the world's me yours truly well today we can't get away from this uh... showroom derrick showroom case uh... and hope all get a verdict soon uh... you know what i first thought my first reaction is that status i thought it was a classic case of the brave indifference i thought it was unnecessary force and no matter what side you're on i think everybody would pretty much have to agree that If those deputies and if Shraven would have gotten off of George Floyd, there was no chance George Floyd was going to get up and try to run. There was no chance that he was going to get up and try to attack them handcuffed. It didn't seem to be his personality. Did OJ miss the part where they couldn't get him into the cop car? That's why he was on the ground in the first place? He actually mentions that. Oh, it just seemed that the force was totally unnecessary. They seemed that the only problem was

30:17 He has a little problem with claustrophobia, I guess, and the smallness of the backseat of that car, which is pretty tough for a guy his size to get into. Should have brought a paddy wagon. As far as Representative Maxine Waters is concerned, I understood what she was saying. It was a call to arms, not to necessarily physical arms, but a cause to come out and work and vote. But she's got to understand her words matter and she's got to be a lot clearer in how she says them because you can't be critical of the other side during the insurrection when they were saying get out and fight, you gotta fight.

30:56 and criticize what they were saying when they claim later on that they meant pretty much what Maxine Waterman meant. So you would think these politicians could communicate a lot better than evidently they've been doing. Man, only in America, only in America can you do something like this. That's insane. Twitter should ban that. That's just dirty. I'm surprised they don't ban it, but I personally find it refreshing that we can hear from OJ about this situation. It's just... It's refreshing, I say. It's worldly, you know, this guy. It's refreshing. It's refreshing.

CHAPTER 14 / 55 Discussion

Maxine Waters, 1992 Los Angeles Riots

Archival audio from 1992 shows Maxine Waters expressing anger and refusing to tell people to be peaceful following the Rodney King verdict. The hosts compare her historical rhetoric to her recent statements regarding the George Floyd trial.

maxine waters· rodney king· los angeles riots· 1992· civil unrest

31:41 For those who don't know the history of Auntie Maxine, this has been circling around. She's no stranger to speaking out when it comes to riots as we go back to the 1992 riots in Los Angeles. As I stand here, nine people are dead. My last count this morning before I tried to get some sleep was over 50-something fires raging all over Los Angeles. The fire started in my district and one of the largest was right around the corner from my house. There are scores of injuries and still anger.

32:16 and frustration and people who plan on staying on the streets and expressing their outrage and anger in any way they deem necessary. There are those who would like for me and others and all of us to tell people to go inside, to be peaceful, that they have to accept the verdict. I accept the responsibility of asking people not to endanger their lives. I am not asking people not to be angry. I am angry and I have a right to that anger, and the people out there have a right to that anger. We don't want anybody killed. None of us believe in violence. However, there are some angry people in America and young black males

32:57 in my district are feeling at this moment if they could not get a conviction with the Rodney King video available to the jurors that there can be no justice in America. No, it's pretty much the same program. Oh yeah, that's what she does. You know, there's a term that's popping up and it came to my attention but I didn't really put two and two together until I got a clip LeBron James, I'm sure everybody knows, he tweeted out a picture of the police officer who shot the 16-year-old, who was trying to kill another teenager.

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Accountability vs Justice, Nancy Pelosi Statement

Democratic leaders are criticized for using the term "accountability" instead of "justice" following the Chauvin verdict. Nancy Pelosi's statement thanking George Floyd for "sacrificing his life for justice" is highlighted as particularly controversial.

nancy pelosi· alexandria ocasio-cortez· george floyd· accountability· equity

33:36 And he said, you're next, hashtag accountability. And this accountability, this is a key new phrase. It's a trigger. There's something going on with it. Witness Sandy Ocasio-Cortez. So no, this verdict is not justice. Frankly, I don't even think we call it full accountability What is that? What do you think that's gonna be about? It's accountability. So it's not justice that the guy was convicted on all three counts. It's we need to count. This is somehow connected to the term equity. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just don't quite understand. I don't either. Accountability, you can't even use accounting because math is racist. I'm confused about this. Yes, math is racist. I don't know. So you heard Maxine Waters.

34:32 Abusing the black man, as always, for her own personal goals. That's what's happening now. Rampant. And I just got to say, I don't like calling out groups of people just by saying, you know, their political affiliation, but this is truly liberals and Democrats who are just fucking insane. Nancy Pelosi just abused this whole situation in the most surprisingly disgusting way. Thank you George Floyd for sacrificing your life for justice because of you And because of thousands, millions of people around the world who came out for justice, your name will always be synonymous with justice. Unless we can change the law, this will be an episode. We change the law, we're going down a different path all together. Thank you, George Floyd.

35:30 I'm sure Floyd would take issue with this. Yeah, the good news is that these people, Nancy Pelosi, they'll be dead within 10 years. Just, that's all I hold on to. Go away. You don't know that? No. No, I don't. Somebody just had their 95th birthday and they're still a ruler. Who's that? Queen. Yeah? Well, I said, let's say some of them. And, oh yeah, this is, This has got to be my favorite. This is Sonny Hauston from The View.

CHAPTER 16 / 55 Discussion

Sunny Hostin, South Africa Safety Claims

Sunny Hostin of *The View* claimed her son is safer in South Africa than in the United States following the Chauvin verdict. The hosts question the logic of this statement given the high crime rates and racial tensions in South Africa.

sunny hostin· the view· south africa· racism· police murder

36:08 And her statement made the news. And The View co-host, Sunny Costin, getting emotional when talking about the verdict. A rare instance of a police officer convicted of murder. I am the mother of an 18 year old boy who is now in South Africa. And I feel that he is safer in South Africa than he is in his own country. I am so relieved. You know, isn't there incredible racism against white people in South Africa? Isn't that why her black child is safer there?

36:48 Yeah, could be. That could be one thing, by the way. Did they say in that report, did the woman throw in the adjective rare? Oh, let me see. And The View co-host, Sonny Costant, getting emotional when talking about the verdict. A rare instance of a police officer convicted of murder. Oh, a rare instance. Holy crap. Good catch. That's unreal. They had to throw that in. Yeah. Well, if we're gonna stay on this track for a while, I do have a series of clips. But these aren't from these idiot celebrities that nobody cares about. These are the public C-SPAN callers. Oh! The return of C-SPAN callers! Always a joy. Republican line, go ahead. Well, in this case, they did it regionally. Oh, smart.

CHAPTER 17 / 55 Discussion

C-SPAN Callers, Derek Chauvin Verdict Reactions

A series of C-SPAN callers discuss the Chauvin verdict, including a woman from Arlington, Texas, whose rambling style is compared to the infamous Miss Teen South Carolina pageant answer. The segment touches on personal anecdotes of police encounters and the "valley girl" speech patterns of some callers.

c-span· arlington texas· mario lopez· miss teen usa· police brutality

37:41 Yeah, I would say. Smart. Okay. So, I have a few of these. I think the last one I wanted John, I have the best at last and then we have a couple of other ones. Now this one here, this woman Courtney, she's from Texas and she's from, I forgot which town they mentioned it. And she sounds to me, she's interesting. And this is long, this goes on forever. But let's start with that. Let's go to C-SPAN calling. This is Courtney in Texas. Courtney is Arlington, Texas. When you heard the verdict, all three counts. What did you think, Courtney? I honestly thought that it was surprising. You usually don't see the opposite race get

38:23 you know, you don't usually see the opposite race get victimized or even get, um, what is the word? Get the verdict of being guilty for a crime. Um, or just for killing George Floyd. Like you usually see manslaughter or you'll see something as if like they would get as they, okay, stop it, stop it, stop it. Before we continue with Courtney, I would like to remind people of this particular episode in American history because she, as I listened to Courtney, I kept thinking of this. Miss Teen South Carolina. Wait, do you have the clip? Yes, you do. Yes, Miss Teen South Carolina. Oh, groovy. Polls have shown a fifth of Americans can't locate the U.S. on a world map. Why do you think this is?

39:15 I personally believe that US Americans are unable to do so because some people out there in our nation don't have that and I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and Iraq everywhere like such as and I believe that they should our education our education over here in the US should help the US, or should help South Africa, and should help Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future for our children.

39:54 Only only the no agenda show can connect the Miss Teen USA with C-SPAN callers. It's it's I didn't realize I haven't seen that clip. I we had the clip of that Miss Seneca, but I didn't notice this before because I took that from another video. That was Mario Lopez. Yeah, that was standing next to her holding the mic pre cancellation. Well Mario, Mario was never cancelled. It was Billy Bud. Oh I thought Mario also ran into trouble. No, Mario's still running. He's still working. I see him. But he's got this shit-eating grin on his face that is just like, with this woman he just goes into this, I don't know what I can do with my face because this is gonna be bad.

40:42 No, back to this woman from from Arlington, Texas. It's leave. Let's go back to her Okay crime or just for killing George Floyd like you usually see manslaughter or you'll see something as if like they would get second-degree and convicted of all three counts. Yes, it was a simple light of Yes, thank God somebody's finally seeing the light. But it was also a slight of like, okay, yes, he's convicted finally. And yes, he killed this man. However, this does not it took this long. Why did it take this long? What happens next moving forward in your mind? In my mind, I'm just like,

41:42 I've had a friend that was killed by an opposite race that was dragged and that man got manslaughter versus murder. So for me, in my mind, I'm just like, okay, finally he got, you know, murdered the counts of murder, but at the same time, why did it take this long? If it was the other race, it would have been done, dealt with, and not even thought about twice. There's a lot of people in the prison system that are black African-American and I'm sure other races that have been wrongfully convicted No, I can't prove it because I don't work in the law enforcement But I'm pretty sure with simple things that people are killing innocent people. I'm sure that's convicting innocent people as well What is concerning here is why is this person watching C-SPAN? It just it doesn't fit for me. I

42:33 I know it doesn't, the whole thing is crazy. But she, uh... You should also note that she's a black girl. Mm-hmm. And she talks like, you know, like it's because people always say, well, there's white girls talking like black, black girls. But this is a black girl. It kind of sounds like the like a valley girl. So I found that interesting. But let's listen to the rest of her. This is the only long clip I have. So I apologize in advance. What happened very quickly in your case is I want to move on to other columnists. But I'm curious. In my case, the guy, he got manslaughter. That was it. What happened to your friend? Oh, my friend is dead. He is deceased. He is no longer living. He's been killed since high school. He didn't even get to graduate high school because that kid killed him. He drug him from the... He had him on a skateboard and he tied his legs on the skateboard to the back of his trunk and drove him down the highway. Like, he killed him. Literally. And they charged him with manslaughter.

43:33 You know, rest in peace, Kweisi. And I understand everything that George Floyd is going through and their family and everything. So it's very hard even to see that man get convicted and know that he's going to spend the rest of his life in prison. It's still not enough. Like, it's not enough. And I don't know what will make it enough because I'm not in their shoes, but I am an African American woman raised in an African American man a boy and you know I have to go through different struggles and tribulations every day to teach him different ways to be a person to make sure that he's looked at this way and because I am a single parent I have to make sure like okay. I have to give you enough love for both of us Courtney. Thanks. You're not really do to me and

44:17 criticized as a African-American male that's going to be in trouble. What? All right, a couple things about her. One, sounds like some dumb kids were trying to surf behind a car on a skateboard, but I don't know enough details about it. Most importantly, Mario Lopez did get canceled from Extra for remarks about transgender children, but then was hired later by Access Hollywood. Oh, that's interesting because I see him on TV but I didn't realize he switched shows. Yeah, he's doing the same stuff. I just see Mario Lopez. Mario Lopez is probably the... and I sound like I'm gonna act as the critic here because I don't want to... I don't believe these shows are positive for America but I think Mario Lopez is the greatest host of any of those shows in the history of those shows.

45:16 He has an incredibly pleasant look. He's multi-culti, who knows? And he is very amenable. He's a nice, seems like a very nice guy. I'm always impressed with his skills. Well that's why he was able to bounce back from Canceled Land. And he's brown. He's brown. He's brown, so he has an edge. He hasn't had, there's no doubt about that, but he's got those huge dimples. Yeah, you got dimples like that, you're good to go. You're gold. Do we know TV or what? We're the best. So continuing on, let's go on. Before I get to the best ones, I'm going to go with

CHAPTER 18 / 55 Discussion

C-SPAN Pre-Screening, Fake Caller Allegations

The hosts analyze a C-SPAN clip where a caller from Oregon mentions being "promised" she would get on the air, suggesting the show's "random" calls are actually pre-screened shills. Callers from Austin and Illinois offer conflicting views on police respect and brutality.

c-span· media manipulation· call-in shows· eugene oregon· austin texas

45:58 Well, here's, let's go with this one. This is Pam and this is broken into three short clips. But I'm gonna start with this one. This is Pam in Oregon and I got ONW, WTF, this is a short eight second clip because I have to stop these clips to make a comment. Pamela in Eugene, Oregon. Good evening. Hello, I'm so happy to be on. I've tried for months to get on. I was supposed to get on today. Oh! Oh, pre-planned. That's why. Huh. I had to stop the clip right there because of that. It's a WTF. What do you mean you would promise to get on today? How does that work? The screening calls. Please explain. Yeah, the screening calls and the setting. That's how you get this girl from Arlington on this show. They're not C-SPAN viewers just like you.

46:50 No, they're shills who have been pre-screened and are brought... I mean, hey, there's nothing wrong with pre-screening calls. That's how you do it in media, but... Well, yeah, because you want to keep things moving. But at least have them be your actual viewers. Wow, good catch. Douchebag. Yeah, that's what I thought. C-SPAN is fake. Who knew? Who knew? C-SPAN, you disappoint. Alright, let's go with it. She's going to continue now. She's like a hippy-dippy old lady. A Berkeley woman if ever there was. And I'm telling you that this is a victory for everyone. We have got to have the police be accountable. Based on what you just said, you answered part of it. Is this a pivot point in terms of race relations and the issue of police brutality in our country?

47:40 Do I think it is? Yes. Is it a pivot point? Yes, I think that there is a definite problem with race relations and the police in our country together. But I'm just here to say that it's also across the board because I was brutalized and that was not just once. I've had it happen twice, once in California years ago. And if I hadn't had a good public defender then, I don't know what would have happened. i'm a it's too much to go into but let me just tell you that i learned that it doesn't really matter if the police are not held accountable they're going to do what they're going to do and i really didn't think that he was going to get off from this i really thought that mr chauvin was going to be uh... exonerated because

48:27 There's issues here with the police. When they talk about reform, it's not about defunding not to have money and not to have police. It's about saying, hey, let's do something about when things are done wrong. Let's find another way. Can we work with them as a rabbit to shoot them to death? At least she did accountable twice, so she's all in. She threw that in, I have to agree. Let's move and skip her third part. She rambles too much for my taste. Okay. In retrospect. Let's go to Paul and Austin. Here's your buddy. A buddy for yours. Paul in Austin. Come on in, Paul. He's from Austin, Texas. Good evening. I think this hillbilly from Tennessee is the problem in this whole country. She's saying this guy didn't get a fair trial. He got a fair trial. He didn't give Mr.

49:18 Floyd a fair chance. He just stepped in the guy's neck and killed him because he thought he could get away with it. You had another caller talking about how the police pull you over and this and that. He's never had a cop pull you over in the middle of the night. Can I have an inspection sticker, but it's in your glove box. Pull you out the car and kick your legs apart. Like you just robbed a bank or something. Did that happen to you, Paul? Complete nonsense. Did that happen to you? Yes. Okay, and as I do not appreciate in Austin, Texas, okay, and You got these people mouthing off about how? Respect the police they'll get respect when they treat people all the same Okay, show them thought he'd get away with it because there was just a black dude. He could step on his neck You know looking in the camera shaking his mace. I hope he's scared to death and I hope he gets brutalized Every single day. He's in his cage

CHAPTER 19 / 55 Discussion

Austin Murder Rate, Black Police Officer Shooting

The murder rate in Austin has reportedly increased by 50% following a $149 million police budget cut. A recent triple homicide involving a black police officer who killed his daughter and her boyfriend is cited as a story the media downplayed due to the race of the shooter.

austin texas· defund the police· university of texas· domestic violence· media bias

50:11 That's about all I got to say. Have a good evening. What did he say at the end? I hope he gets brutalized when he's in his cage. Oh, well there's Austin, Texas for you everybody. It's interesting that they don't do Republican or Democrat line, but they're doing by region. I see a lot of Texas. Are they trying to make a point here? Like even Texans think it's ridiculous. Well, the last call is going to be another call from Texas, but we're not going to get there yet. We've got two more to do. Let's do this one, C-Span calls. This is the Illinois call. Chick call it says. Let's go to Charlie, Indicator Illinois. Good evening. Good evening. First off, it's a shame that Mr. Floyd lost his life. But the simplest fact of all of it is I've been pulled over several times by police.

51:03 If you do what they say, respect them, they're not going to cause you no harm. They're out there to do their job. I've been pulled over a total of six times for speeding, different things. I was wild and young. But whenever I got pulled over, I listened. That's all anyone has to do. Like I said, I'm sorry he lost his life, but the police are not racist. And we've got white people being shot by black. We've got police officers being shot by whites and blacks and Mexicans and everything. But we're not racist.

51:42 they're out there doing their job. inspiring murals and marches, sparking conversation in living rooms and new legislation. But a more basic question has always remained, would justice be done? Wow, just cut him off to throw that in. I want to say something about Austin actually. The murder rate is up 50% since they defunded the police by $149 million. And we had a triple homicide just earlier this week. A cop

52:29 shot and killed his daughter, her boyfriend, a star football player who had just been recruited to the school, the University of Texas. Did you hear about it? No. Do you know why? The cop was black. Exactly, sir. Exactly. And so instead the story is, yes, domestic violence is horrible. Yeah, well, this is the way they like to slant things. Ugh! Disgusting. I know a lot of these stories you can't figure out. They make race a big issue, but then they won't talk about it in certain situations. But let's go to the second, the best, the best of the group and then we're gonna finish with John in Texas.

53:09 But this is Jan in New Jersey and this is the best, this is the clip of the day from my perspective, the clip of the day of these clips. But I don't expect an award. Well, you never know, a finger's on the button. It's not that good. Judges, judges, hover. Hover on your buttons. To Jan in Emerson, New Jersey. You mentioned the president, the vice president, they did speak at the White House and we'll have that for you as part of our coverage into the evening. But Jan, you're next. Go ahead with your comment. Yes, of course the policeman was criminally liable and the verdict was correct. And it's not mentioned very much, but Minneapolis has a history of wrongfully treating black citizens. The Minneapolis Police Union was very powerful in Minneapolis.

CHAPTER 20 / 55 Discussion

New Jersey Attorney, Minneapolis Police Union

A former New York City police attorney calls C-SPAN to discuss the 19 previous complaints against Derek Chauvin. He criticizes Senator Amy Klobuchar's past failure to prosecute police officers in Minneapolis and discusses the "Ferguson effect" where police withdraw from high-crime areas.

minneapolis· police union· amy klobuchar· new york city· c-span

52:29 shot and killed his daughter, her boyfriend, a star football player who had just been recruited to the school, the University of Texas. Did you hear about it? No. Do you know why? The cop was black. Exactly, sir. Exactly. And so instead the story is, yes, domestic violence is horrible. Yeah, well, this is the way they like to slant things. Ugh! Disgusting. I know a lot of these stories you can't figure out. They make race a big issue, but then they won't talk about it in certain situations. But let's go to the second, the best, the best of the group and then we're gonna finish with John in Texas.

53:09 But this is Jan in New Jersey and this is the best, this is the clip of the day from my perspective, the clip of the day of these clips. But I don't expect an award. Well, you never know, a finger's on the button. It's not that good. Judges, judges, hover. Hover on your buttons. To Jan in Emerson, New Jersey. You mentioned the president, the vice president, they did speak at the White House and we'll have that for you as part of our coverage into the evening. But Jan, you're next. Go ahead with your comment. Yes, of course the policeman was criminally liable and the verdict was correct. And it's not mentioned very much, but Minneapolis has a history of wrongfully treating black citizens. The Minneapolis Police Union was very powerful in Minneapolis.

53:58 And they supported, by the way, prosecuting attorney A.B. Klobuchar for years. And she never prosecuted any policeman for many years. No case was brought before a grand jury, including the infamous case of Mayan Borrell. Now, I think that the way the case has been presented as if there's widespread racism throughout the United States. I used to be an attorney for the New York City Police Department. You know, the New York City Police Department makes tens of thousands of arrests every year. They're human beings.

54:37 It's difficult work. Not every case can be perfectly done. And there's very little racism in the New York City Police Department. So how does this change policing in the future, as somebody who understands it so well? Well, I mean, the problem is that when the police are attacked the way they have been, they withdraw from confrontations. with gangs, and the gangs have been empowered for the last year. And the murder rates and the assaults with guns have gone up in New York City and in many places, and innocent citizens, innocent black citizens, have been the victim of a withdrawal by the police.

55:23 Conversely, do you think this is going to present a real challenge for communities across the country to hire police officers in the future? The recruitment process? Well, what I guess I think they'll be more sensitive about hiring. But this defendant had 19 previous complaints. No police department should tolerate a policeman who has 19 complaints. It's too many. Oh man. Now, I never heard that about the 19 complaints. Maybe I did earlier. No. So this guy reveals a number of things that we just don't know. Which every time I hear something like that, I get very irked about it because it's like, why am I hearing this information on a... He's an attorney, I'm sure he's credible, I'm sure he's not full of crap. But why am I hearing stuff like this on a call-in show to C-SPAN?

CHAPTER 21 / 55 Discussion

Maxine Waters Mistrial Request, Jury Intimidation

Judge Peter Cahill criticized elected officials for interfering in the Chauvin trial, stating that Maxine Waters' comments could be grounds for an appeal. House Republicans led by Kevin McCarthy attempted to censure Waters, but the motion was rejected by Democrats.

maxine waters· derek chauvin· mistrial· judge peter cahill· kevin mccarthy

56:23 when it should be part of the general discussion. So I don't know. I have heard from, this is a side note, from a couple of producers who have told me that the police in Minneapolis are real dicks. I don't know. That's just anecdotal. It's very possible. I don't know. I've heard that. Well, that's just kind of what this guy indicated too. Exactly. Now, this is the last one. I'm the last of the group And this I thought was a way to wrap it up, and this is John in Texas. John in Texas. Good evening, John. Hey, how are you? Good, how are you, sir? Well, I wasn't surprised at all about the verdict. Not one bit. I could see it coming. I mean, when you have a judge who won't sequester the jury, and he let the jury go home every day,

57:16 You know, of course they're watching Don Lemon and all these idiots on these liberal channels. And then Maxine Waters, God bless her, she shows up this weekend and is intimidating the jury. So let me ask you, would you, a citizen of Minneapolis, knowing that you've got to live there, would you dare give them any kind of a verdict other than the one they wanted? Which was guilty, of course. And do you think he was guilty? Do I think he's guilty? Not a murder, no.

58:03 Hey John, thanks. Oh, go ahead. Oh, not in the least. John, thank you. By the way, the House today did take up a measure put forth by the House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy to censure Representative Maxine Waters. The vote along a party line, 216 to 210, it was rejected by the majority of the Democrats. Yeah, I think by the way that Maxine Waters in that commentary she made, which was brought up, I don't have a clip of it, but I was watching the case because they had it on court TV and it was brought up by the judge because the defense attorney asked for a mistrial because of Maxine Waters because the case hadn't closed and they hadn't sent the jury off.

58:50 and they hemmed and hawed about it, and the judge went into a rant about politicians that are interfering with court proceedings because they're not part of the judicial, and they shouldn't be interfering. I have a short news clip about that, just if you want to see it. Yeah, I'll just finish this and then you can put it up. I just want to mention what he said at the end. He refused to take it on as a mistrial. item, but this is just going to appeals. You can just see it coming down the line. Oh, totally. Totally. And I think that's what it seems to me obvious that the judge gave everybody, and this is a, you know, I didn't make this up myself, but when I heard the theory, it's like, yeah, that makes sense. The judge gave an out by saying, well, you know, you've got grounds for appeal based upon what Congresswoman Waters said because of jury, what is it, intimidation.

59:46 And that gave the jury a way to say, oh, let's just convict them on all three. Everyone goes home. We don't get pigs blood spotted everywhere. And this guy will get out on appeal. Yeah, we're good to go. Here's the one minute report from ABC. In the meantime, the judge says comments made by Congresswoman Maxine Waters could affect the outcome of the trial. Waters has encouraged activists to get more confrontational if Chauvin is not convicted of murder. We've got to stay on the streets, and we've got to get more active, we've got to get more confrontational, we've got to make sure that they know that we mean business. The judge rejected the defense's request for a mistrial, but did say Waters' comments could be ground for an appeal. Well, I'll give you the kindness that Congresswoman Waters may have given you.

1:00:33 something on appeal that may result in this whole trial being overturned. I wish elected officials would stop talking about this case. Last night, Waters telling reporters her remarks should not affect the outcome. Just said my words don't matter. Republicans on Capitol Hill also slamming Waters. Haas minority leader Kevin McCarthy says he'll introduce a proposal to censure Waters this week, accusing her of breaking the law by violating curfew and then inciting violence. Yeah, so we know that didn't work, obviously. There you go. What a mess. What a mess. Well, you got these blowhard politicians mucking up the works. Yeah, yeah. And it's, you know, whatever they want to do on TV, M5M is fine. But when it spills over into the streets, it just, and people start breaking stuff and protesting peacefully. I mean, you just got to say, why, why let these people do this? Because they want to get reelected.

CHAPTER 22 / 55 Discussion

Austin Prop B, Homeless Encampment Signage

The hosts discuss the irony of "Vote No on Prop B" signs placed directly in front of sprawling homeless encampments in Austin. Prop B is a local ballot measure aimed at reinstating a ban on public camping.

austin texas· prop b· homeless encampments· camping ban· political signs

1:01:32 It's just their style of being a politician. Oh sure, but why does the public? The public is dumb. Oh, the public's dumb. I agree. Like the public, hmm, we went out and voted for Prop B. Oh, shoot. I tried to get your photo and it's on a very busy part of the road, the photo of the Vote No on Prop B in front of an encampment right in the middle of the road. I'm going to have to try it again. I failed on my first drive-by. You can't stop or slow down. It's pretty busy. Oh, no. Why not? You should have Tina drive you and you'd be sitting on the passenger side with the camera. Well, no, I have to sit in the back seat. That's why it failed because it's on the left-hand side.

1:02:14 So it's on the left hand side. Yeah, yeah, so I have to sit. Well if you go by driving in the other direction. Well it's so vast, there's so many tents that you don't see it on the other direction. There's a whole different neighborhood on that side. You can't just do that. No, no, no, no, no. Uh-huh. Well give it a shot. Oh no, I'll get it for you. I'll try and have it for the Sunday newsletter. Or if nothing else, do what a professional photographer does. Go plant a sign and then take the picture. Now you don't have to, it's there and it's hilarious. It's hilarious. Are you kidding me?

CHAPTER 23 / 55 Discussion

Apple AirTags, Law Enforcement Tracking Potential

Apple's new AirTags are discussed as a potential surveillance tool. While marketed for finding lost keys, the hosts argue the Bluetooth mesh network could easily be used by law enforcement or stalkers to track individuals without their knowledge.

apple· airtags· bluetooth tracking· privacy· law enforcement

1:02:56 Well, how about that, John? We did a full hour without talking about COVID or vaccines. I hope everyone's happy. It's coming. Well, you'll see that, of course, donations will be down because of this. Oh, yeah. Next show, that'd be the trick. Yeah. People have to have their COVID fix and they have to have it at the beginning of the show. Yeah. And I think we subliminally probably didn't do that. We never plan anything, just so everybody knows. And quite honestly, saving podcasting was bigger than COVID in my mind, in my world. Sorry, sorry I did that, but we get people saying... I would say that the Apple podcasting and the other bullcrap news that they had was probably bigger to the audience, generally speaking, although they're more worried about COVID than they are about Apple's coming out with new color

1:03:43 IMAX which is the way Steve Jobs first presented the colors. Yeah. Yeah with the colors of back to the colors. I love the What is that thing called? I love the the Apple air tags. This is a fantastic product not for what they're touting it for so you have this little Like keychain type tag and you can hang it on a bed a number of companies that have made these things that they stole them from but go on and Okay, I'm not saying Apple's great or invented anything in fact quite the opposite So how it works is Apple will be able to help you track this air tag no matter what it's attached to no matter no matter where in the world Because it communicates with other iPhone users Bluetooth when they're nearby Bro, you couldn't pin that on a person

1:04:36 I mean, what a beautiful tracking mechanism. All they have to do is hand law enforcement a little sticker, you know, cops come up, hey, hey man, how you doing? You'll pat him on the back. All right, good to go. You're tracked. You're tracked. Hey buddy, what's that on your back? What did it say? Kick me? Seriously. Seriously. What an odd product. It seems like it. It sounds like a law enforcement tool. Yes. Yeah. More than anything, more than finding your keys. Yeah, I just thought that was, you know, did anyone bring that up? And to me it seems like an obvious problem. Hmm. Anyway. Well. Anyway. With that, I would like to thank you for your courage to say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in C-Span callers, ladies and gentlemen, John C. DeVore. Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Kern. In the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air,

CHAPTER 24 / 55 Discussion

Judge Jeanine Pirro, Pabst Blue Ribbon

A lighthearted discussion about the drinking habits of media personalities suggests Judge Jeanine Pirro likely drinks Scotch. John Dvorak mentions his preference for Pabst Blue Ribbon, noting the brand's unexpected popularity.

judge jeanine· pabst blue ribbon· beer· scotch· fox news

1:05:31 You okay? Subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. You alright? I had a equipment malfunction. Yes, I can tell. I thought your cans fell over. You're not doing cans, you're not drinking any Pabst today, I guess. You're dry. He's dry. Well, you know, I'm not that thirsty, but now that you mention it, I do have a handy can. Uh-oh. Oh, there he is! And John C. Dvorak is in very good company. That wine has nothing to do with snobbery. I feel like Really? You disagree? I drink beer. Is it a craft beer? No! It's the same old stuff. Corona White, Nickelodeon. And I started with Pabst Blue Ribbon. There it is. There it is. You and Judge Jeanine, John, both on the Pabst Blue Ribbon.

1:06:28 You know, Judge Jeanine seems to me, I bet you if you went out with her... Oh, I better be a hoot. Scotch. You think so? She's a Scotch lady? She's got Scotch drinker written all over her. Interesting. I didn't consider that. Women who drink Scotch are a certain type and that's Judge Jeanine. Yeah, you gotta be careful. I just don't see her drinking a lot of beer and belching. It just doesn't seem to be her style. No, that's how she said she got started before she moved on to scotch, to the finer things in life. Yeah, I do have an ISO. Peps Blue Ribbon. Just saying, if you want to use that at the end of the show, it's always good. Hey, in the morning to the troll room there at noagendastream.com. Trolls, raise your hands please. We've got to count you for our Thursday show here. 1,610 trolls in attendance.

CHAPTER 25 / 55 Discussion

No Agenda Social, Episode 1339 Artwork

The hosts promote the reopening of registrations for No Agenda Social, their Mastodon instance. They also credit "Melodious Owls" for the Episode 1339 artwork, which featured a "COVID Survivor" sign in a homeless-style font.

mastodon· no agenda social· podcasting 2.0· digital art· value for value

1:07:14 That's no agenda stream calm where you can always find the no agenda nation community hanging out listening to live shows Which of which there are many because it's combined with a live stream no agenda stream calm go check it out And I'm sure they'll tell you that you need to register as soon as you can at no agenda social calm our federated Social network. It's a mastodon instance We've reopened registrations. It is open And we're gonna close it down again once we get a up to 10,000 as the purge Continues so bring your friends in and so far everything seems to be civil everything seems to be going okay, no agenda social.com and then we have the artist for episode what was that 1339 and

1:08:01 and we titled that one Accelerationism. And then we had actually you, you puffered that we should have COVID survivor t-shirts, mugs, hats, hoodies, etc. So everybody right away went to create images of mugs, hats, t-shirts, hoodies, etc. But that wasn't what we were looking for. It was melodious owls who brought the goods with the cardboard cutout COVID survivor written in magic marker. I'd have to say it was just simple, beautiful font used, which is not the standard font. We saw it. We both said, yeah, that's the one, I think, if I recall correctly. Yeah. Well, you spotted it and liked it. And there was nothing better. Right. And it was simple to the point.

1:08:46 And it had all kinds of messaging in there, because it's like a homeless sign. Yes. I'm trying, I don't think there was, yeah, just a lot of cups, a lot of mugs. Was there anything else? Nothing else worked. And there's some stuff like light people holding on a fist with a lightning bolt. Well, I used a lightning rod. I thought that was more of an evergreen style piece. Oh, good, good. There was four of them. I used it for the newsletter. Good. Art piece it worked for me. Yeah, I'm always concerned when people try to guess ahead what we're gonna talk about and they put a lot of effort into stuff and it just just like we look at we never talk about it right but in this case it worked out for at least one piece of art so for them yes so we thank Melodious owls for bringing us the artwork for episodes 1339 part of our value for value model

CHAPTER 26 / 55 Discussion

Sir Clay Alchemist, Long Haulin' Ministry

Executive Producer Sir Clay Alchemist shares his story of suffering an adverse reaction to the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. He announces the launch of a new podcast and ministry, "Long Haulin' with Jonathan D. Lopez," to help others recovering from COVID-19 and substance abuse.

johnson and johnson· vaccine injury· ministry· substance abuse· covid survivor

1:09:50 We love our artists. They have a great deal with noagendashop.com where some of the if their artists use they have a little agreement, they get a third, the shop takes a third, they donate to us. That seems to be working very well. But also just the competitive nature. People love contributing and you can see all of these, most of the images Throughout every single show, when Dreb Scott puts the chapters together, you can see it in any podcasting 2.0 compatible app. The only apps that seem to work these days, newpodcastapps.com, and enjoy that as it floats around. And thank you for your courage. Now let's thank our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1340. Sir Clay, alchemist of the Grand River in Wyoming.

1:10:38 Michigan, Wyoming, Michigan, I don't know, 74946. Sir Clay Alchemist needs your help. And then he's, uh, we didn't see his email. Well, you know what? I did find his email. Okay. This is very odd because this email came in Before his donation, and I guess he donated later so that we could read it, it's long so I won't read all of it. And you'll remember this email because we discuss it. Sir Clay, alchemist of the Grand River says, gentlemen, God's been moving in my life like never before. I've decided to start a podcast called Long Holland with Jonathan D. Lopez. It's an Apple podcast. Is it? I'm still waiting on the others.

1:11:25 Make sure it's in the podcastindex.org. That's all you need these days and email me with this problem. As man of conviction, I've turned my life around and my COVID symptoms are disappearing rapidly through the grace of God this past week. I had the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. I wound up in the ER. It was a scary ordeal, but gentlemen, it was an experience that could really help a lot of people. It has convinced me to start a ministry to help people with substance abuse as well as to encourage COVID survivors with severe issues with my podcast Long Haul and with Jonathan D. Lopez. It has been a terrible eight months and I have a lot to share, but my income is limited due to working for a restaurant throughout the shutdown. I've been pouring a lot of my own money into the ministries at the church to keep it going strong. I saved for the past two years, but the last eight months I've struggled to work 10 to 12 hours a week at my day job, and I really struggled to be able to even woodwork, which is a great side business, and things have slowed down at the Clyde Park Beanery.

1:12:22 But God has been healing all of almost all the COVID symptoms I have. Faith, and I have faith He will give me the strength to do exactly what He wants me to do. minister to people who have serious problems due to COVID and tangentially drug use. I'm a former user of cannabis, psilocybin, mushrooms, MDMA, and acid for medicine. Not an abuser of these amazing drugs that have changed my life for the best. All I want to encourage people around me to support these causes. My platform ministry, whatever you want to call it, is just starting. So, If you want, you can reach him, John, at longhawlen, no G, dot live if any producers want to join in. So, and then we thank him very much for his support of the best podcast in the universe. It's an interesting specialty podcast, I'd say. No kidding. And we haven't had any, I don't think any response to COVID that involves God other than people concerned about the vaccine and what might or might not be in it. But that was, it's interesting.

CHAPTER 27 / 55 Discussion

Producer Donations, De-douching Ceremonies

A segment dedicated to listener donations includes "de-douching" requests and birthday shout-outs. Notable donors include Duke Dave Fugazotto, who is facing job losses in the Middle East, and winemaker Sir Keith Sarloos from the Santa Ynez Valley.

value for value· massachusetts· missouri· saudi arabia· wine making

1:13:26 Next is Peter Matthew in Pembroke, Massachusetts 422 422 ITM last year is hit in the mouth by my piping hot wife Lauren a couple of Notices in their piping hot and she deduced me for my birthday in December. Oh, anyways Now it is my turn to return to favor for her birthday birthday. Whoo. I since discovering your show, it has quickly shot up to the top of the podcast hierarchy thanks to the amygdala shrinkage. And please accept this humble donation and de-douche the amazing Lauren, Lauren Order on No Agenda Social. No jingles, just karma. Pete from FEMA Region One in uber liberal Massachusetts nuts. Meat Path on No Agenda Social. You've been de-douched.

1:14:25 You've got karma. Philip Shearheart in Marietta, it says California. I always think it was Georgia, but okay, California. 333.33. This donation on behalf of an avid listener and dear friend who has had a very rough week. I would like to help lift his spirits and give him the greatest gift one could ask for. A de-douching. You've been de-douched. And also a happy 35th birthday Chris P. CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC

1:15:13 Okay, ah, I want you read this from a door Dave. Yes, Dave Fugazotto Duke of America's heartland in the Arabian Peninsula 333 33 of course his original He says he's from Gladstone, Missouri, but he's been away from his wife and from his family and from his daughter for about 19 years and we've been tracking his progress and we were hoping that he would perhaps finally be back in the arms of his loved ones, but no Emergency jobs, Carmen, please, for my 42 employees and myself who will be sacked on 30th of April. There's a chance that we Americans will be retained a bit longer due to the logistical complications of getting us all repatriated to our quote, point of origin, aka poo. Fifth grade humor never goes out of style, you know. Oh, POO, got it. But we're all on short final for departure. We've expected it for a while, but until two days ago, we were thinking months, not days.

1:16:11 This sucks on many different levels but most of all because my 25 Saudi and Jordanian employees get to hit the bricks in the middle of Ramadan. Yeah, that's a non-starter. Think of it as you got fired the day after you got back to work from Thanksgiving with Christmas shopping and parties and family time all ahead of you but now without a paycheck. Basically, the company said, Ramadan Kareem y'all GTFO. But hey, on the bright side, I'll get to see my dame sooner than expected and hit one of Sir Spencer's meetups, so that's a plus. Thank you for your courage, and Sir Dave Fugazotto, I'm going to hit you with a TPP since you need an emergency job, karma. This one needs to be forceful. You've got karma.

1:16:57 Onward with Sir Keith Sarloos in Santa Ynez Valley wine growing country, 333. And he writes, it's your friendly neighborhood winemaker. I'd like to take a moment and thank you for the stellar shows as of late. I would like to call out my friend Cliff Chason out as a douchebag. It's his birthday this week. Also, I was mowing the vineyard and had to stop and laugh when the clip Wild West Pimp Status. I'm donating 333 just to hear you play it again.

CHAPTER 28 / 55 Discussion

Canadian COVID Restrictions, Manitoba Variant Data

A producer from Manitoba, Canada, reports on new capacity restrictions implemented by Premier Brian Pallister. Despite only two deaths attributed to "variants of concern" in the province, retail and dining capacities were slashed to 33%.

manitoba· canada· covid variants· icu capacity· brian pallister

1:17:32 Let me know when you need some more wine if you eat I guess mine from them if you could play kid clips don't eat me Bo Jiden and Wild West Pimp status karma for all Sir Keith Sarlous of the Bacchus of the Santa Ynez Valley yes of course it's actually West Wild West Pimp style but it's still just as funny and no karma needed okay Boat Giant says to wear both masks. What is this? How many masks? Two masks. Who says that? Uh, Boat Giant. Wild West Pimp Style. There you go. Wild West Pimp Style!

1:18:16 Ryan Sorensen from Havre, Montana 31569. You didn't have a note from him and could not find one offhand. I could not either. But if you have something to say, Ryan, we'll be glad to read it later. Seatsitter 29933. Sir Seatsitter. Sir Seatsitter. Sir Seatsitter. You're right. ITM Crackpot and Buzzguy, the donation finally brings me well past the bouncers and into the roundtable. Please knight me Sir Seatsitter. Oh, he's not a knight yet. Oh, I'm sorry. That's interesting. I always thought he was. Okay. Please knight me Sir Seat-Sitter, knight of the former Stolen Valor. Yeah, I do. I remember, you know, I think so too because I remember the knight of the former Stolen Valor.

1:19:00 Oh well, maybe he just wants to be knighted again. I'd like poopities and scoopities at the round table. I've reached whatever those are. It doesn't sound... it sounds like a dog walker would want at the round table. I recently had the pleasure of speaking with David Icke, Mofax, and many more great minds. Wow. Okay. That are far smarter than me on my show. Oh, he does. Yes. ABS ABS and a six pack abs in a six pack abs in a six ABS. What says ABS abs in a six pack. It's been a fun journey and the need to thank everyone who has helped me through the technical hurdles. Hurtles.

1:19:46 Mainly Darren O'Neill and Medus. You guys are good guys, guys. Go podcasting, I'd feel bad if I didn't call out Boo-Berry as a douchebag. Anyways, he's like a Fauci-Wheeze, three Fauci-Wheezes and back to back. Really? Okay. Short. Yeah, there we go. There you go. And we're with Rick Fawcett in the Grand Point, Manitoba, Canada, 25350. ITM everyone, after hearing the new restrictions added on Monday, he's talking about Canada, I knew it was a sign for me to make my second donation. Here's a portion of the press release. Quote, Pallister said that COVID-19 is once again on the rise, due in large part to the new variants of concern. Retail stores will be limited to one third of the store's capacity or up to 333 patrons.

1:20:48 Interesting number. Whichever is lower, meals will be limited to 33% of the faculty's facilities capacity. Unquote. Yeah, unquote. For your information, here in Manitoba, there are 774 variants of concern. 238 active, 534 recovered, and two deaths. That's that's that's I can't quite say it right. There are 1783 total active cases, 132 in hospital and 33 in the ICU. This is a population of 1.3 million. As to your comments from Sunday's show, we are mostly complainers and not doers. The sad thing about Canada right now is that there are more people that fully trust the media,

1:21:41 health officials and government on the on this bullshit than people like me who don't. Two douchebag call-outs Matt from Oregon who originally hit me in the mouth last July. Sorry? That's my fault, okay. That's Matt from Oregon who originally hit me in the mouth last July and Rodney who hit me in the mouth. Who I hit in the mouth, I'm sorry, who I hit in the mouth. I thank you both for the information and entertainment you provided. It truly helps me keep my sanity as selfish as it is. I hope you never find your exit strategy and continue putting out the best podcast in the universe.

CHAPTER 29 / 55 Discussion

Real Estate Market Crisis, Legislative Solutions

Listeners report extreme bidding wars in the Austin housing market, with homes selling for 80% more than their 2019 prices. The hosts propose a "legislative arm" for the show to draft boilerplate laws preventing institutional investors from buying up residential neighborhoods.

austin real estate· va loan· lumber prices· housing bubble· legislation

1:22:18 signed Rick Fossett Grand Point Manitoba. Anonymous is our another associate executive producer 22822 from parts unknown in the United States. In the morning gents I was smacked in the mouth at the beginning of COVID and I'm making my first donation so I might request a de-douching please. You've been de-douching. Just as you guys saved me from the M5M panic porn bullcrap throughout COVID, I credit Noah Jen The Social, which I joined earlier in the week, for saving me from super woke, algo-ridden Twitter bullcrap. That's catching on. This is but a small token of all the value I've gotten from both the show and my fellow human resources over at No Agenda Social. I'd like to request the following jingles, whole load, massive dumps, Fauci wheeze, and a stereo goat karma on the side. Stay safe, John. Bye! Anonymous in the free Southeast. I'm gonna give you the whole load today. They did dumps. They call them dumps. Big massive dumps. You've got

1:23:23 There's applause in that? Yeah. Andrew Kresick, 222-22. For show 1340, Andrew Kresick here, third time donating on the way to knighthood. I just can't express enough of the value of this show and what it means to me as a college student. Ah. Yay! Hello, Kresick. We got one one now we have more than one we have One in Sim it's no it's more than one the superb quality of both your work have has kept me sane through my college experience Both on campus and with this horrendous remote learning situation that's becoming a national travesty in my previous donations I mentioned that I'd

1:24:14 I keep tabs on how crazy the college system has become and honestly, I don't even know where to start. Keep the sanity rolling in the amygdala small, NJNK. Man. Another anonymous with a sack of twos, 222.22, Adam, I'm about 45 minutes north of you in Bell County. I've been trying to buy a home for the last few months to no avail. Prices are up 50 to 80% over the last 24 months. I've signed dozens of contracts only to be outbid by cash offers $20,000 to $40,000 over asking price. The contract I signed yesterday was for a home that sold less than 18 months ago for $270,000. I'm hoping I can get it for $450,000 because it isn't listed yet.

1:24:59 The contract I signed today is for another home, similar price spread over the same period. I'm also on two different three-month waiting lists for apartments because I was originally planning on having a custom home built, but the builder has since halted all building and just ate the contract fee because they can't make money now for what they originally settled for if they finish the builds. Geez, I'm a disabled veteran with a VA loan and work for a tech company in Austin that pays well enough for me to get pre-approved for $750,000. Well, good luck moving, Adam. Sell your home for double what you bought it for, buy back your Airstream, and join the rest of us in high-class RV camping. Which, as it turns out, I learned today from one of our producers, Boots on the Ground, who works in wood

1:25:47 that the number one reason that the price of lumber has skyrocketed is because of the RV market, which are all, as we know, is all made of wood on the inside. So there must be a huge, huge, massive production of people who can't afford a home anymore and have decided to live in RVs. How about that? I'm not sure that's the reason for the price of the wood. Well, I'll read the note in a little bit. A couple of things, as he read that and we've been talking about this, or as he wrote that and we've been talking about this issue. The right way around the situation is there has to be some, and it can be done, some kind of boilerplate legislation that we can present to our various state legislatures to stop the wholesale buying up of houses out from under people who want to be homeowners.

1:26:49 It's very easy, it's an obvious thing to legislate for. And there's nobody that's not gonna go for this in the legislature because they know that the banks represent one or two votes and the public at large represents thousands. So you have to leverage to make this happen. And I think it's about time some, we have people out there that can write legislation. I think we should put a little legislative arm, attach it to the no agenda show and do what these other guys do that you have just stock legislation that we write up and get people to force it down the throats of the various legislatures. It's not that hard. Sounds to me like one of those things that we'll never follow through on. No, we don't need to. We want people out there to do it. All we do is push it. We can follow through on the promotion. We can't do the writing, that's for sure. Right. I think it's something that needs to be done.

1:27:43 Yeah, this has to be stopped. That's obvious. No, it has to be stopped. It has to be stopped. There's only one way of stopping it. You can't stop it by bitching about it. Right, but people have to understand what's going on first. This is not even known. People don't even read it. This is no news story. It won't take long. Yeah, but there's no news stories about this. I'm not seeing it. Well, they're idiots, these news guys. This is pathetic, our news media. Yes. Michael Perham is not pathetic. He's in Roy, Illinois, 20420. A dude named Mike with Ben skills. By the way, there's something I was going to mention in the last show. Do you realize that a lot of dudes named Ben are actually named Ben? Oh yeah, of course. It comes up all the time in the conversation. Yeah, I know. I'm a dude named Ben. What's your name? My name is Ben. Yeah.

CHAPTER 30 / 55 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Sir Seat Sitter

The program concludes its first half with the knighting of Sir Seat Sitter. Other donors are recognized for their contributions, including a couple who donated their $200 roulette winnings from a Las Vegas anniversary trip.

knighthood· value for value· australia· bordeaux· roulette

1:28:34 So if you want your kids to be programmers, name them Benjamin. If you named Mike with Ben's skills, making my way 420, 1971 birthday with this episode. Guns and weed and freedom. I think that's what he's... Guns and weed and freedom, yes, okay. I think that's what he wanted for jingles. There's no jingle. Oh, oh, no, we have no weed jingle. We have no guns jingle. You have the freedom. I can give him that. Hold on a second. I didn't, I thought he was just saying it offhandedly. Freedom! There you go. There's your freedom. What an idiot. Adrian Work Minute, $200.42. Thank you, Dean Reiner.

1:29:24 Lavish and Sir Seat Sitter for giving me the proper kick in the motivator. Mothman's got nards to send in this first donation. John, wine is fine and your writing is top shelf. Adam, the joy you experience for getting the best sounding podcast in the universe to purr makes me joy. Brings me joy. To the rest of the, brings me joy. That makes more sense, doesn't it? To the rest of the phenomenal talent featured on the No Agenda stream, I'd like to say I swear I'm not that high, guys. My father and I have job interviews this week. This is almost in code again. I'm having trouble reading it, obviously. It's quite interesting. My father and I have job interviews this week, mine during the show. Can we get a little Wicked Witch of the West jobs, Karma?

1:30:21 Do we have that? Uh... It's almost... My little pretty. About the other jingle, I was hoping Adam would lay down a little theremin if John could read. There's something spooky going around... Hold on, hold on, hold on, let me get it then. There's something spooky going around these here parts. Masterpiece. In a proper Appalachian, straight from the mines of West by God, Virginia spirit. That would be rad AF. Love it lit and go podcast. Love is light. Love is light. I don't know what he's saying here. I think he meant to say love and light, but it came out as love is lit. Love is lit. Which I kind of like. And go podcasting. Boo-Burry, mothman of the mini-apocalypse.

1:31:21 I'm liking this. B-Y-O-3-D-G, okay. I'm liking the love is lit. I'm gonna keep that one in there. Alright, here's his jingle. It's almost too delicious to believe, my friend. That's all we got. That's our Hillary. You've got karma. I wonder if, wait, maybe he meant something else. Hold on a second. What did he mean the... I don't know, maybe too delicious. I know which one. That's not the right jingle. I want to make sure it gets the right one. Too delicious. Hmm. Because we have one with a cackle. That's good enough. Yeah, thanks. Steve Vischer, Knight of the Southern Skies in Cranbourne, East Victoria, Australia.

1:32:12 $200.33. ITM just wanted to offer an extra gesture of thanks this month after listening to two recent clip shows. Ah, the clip shows. They brought back a lot of memories and made me think about how much No Agenda has been such a regular part of my life for so many years now. I've been a listener since around episode 70. The greatest gift from these shows is this, I simply cannot watch an MSNBC episode M. News show now without a completely critical cynical eye unless it's for gathering clips of course. Thank you, thank you. May I request a trains good planes bad jingle? All the very best to you both. Steve Vischer, Knight of the Southern Skies. All aboard trains good planes bad.

1:33:02 All right, I'll read this one. Will Sadler from Phoenix, Arizona. $200. He and I will have one more associate executive producer for this round. Adam and John, two weeks ago my exquisite keeper and I celebrated our wedding anniversary in Las Vegas. For fun we played roulette betting $5 on numbers 20 and 17, our wedding year. 17 hit on the very first spin paying $200. Hello! Wait, aren't you supposed to have like... Isn't it 36 times 5? Am I not missing... am I missing how that works? I thought it was 35 to 1 on those numbers. Oh, okay. We couldn't believe our luck and immediately chased out. This week is Jill's 33rd birthday. To celebrate, I'm committing the $200 in winnings to no agenda in her name. Please accept this donation and credit my sweetheart as an associate executive producer. Let me just do that right now. So that is Jill. Got it. Set.

1:33:55 I hope that by passing along the Bellagio's generosity, the universe will comp my wife and Gitmo nation with good fortune. Jill is a faithful NA listener and also enjoys John's culinary tips. The 2016 Bordeaux from Costco was a winner. Saying all that, 33 symbolizes rebirth, elevated consciousness, cosmic harmony, and divinity. May Jill's 33rd year be as magical. Thank you for reading this. She is my crackpot and I her buzzkill. Happy birthday, Jill. She's never been de-douched. Let's do that right away. You've been de-douched.

1:34:33 She's never been deduced. Please add her to the birthday list. Yes, she's on the list. And will you please give her a biscuit for her birthday? Oh, okay. I didn't have these set up. Biscuit for her birthday. Where's my biscuit? Biscuit for my birthday. 33 is the magic number. Damn. Yep, got that one. And then that's true. And little girl. Yay. I think I have that. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. That's true. There you go. And happy birthday. She's on the list. And wrapping it up today, sir. Upper Decker with 200 bucks. Parts unknown.

CHAPTER 31 / 55 Discussion

Ontario Police Powers, Canadian SOS Signals

Protesters in Niagara Falls used Morse code light signals to send an "SOS" to the US, claiming they are hostages in Ontario. Following massive public backlash, Premier Doug Ford reversed a policy that would have allowed police to stop citizens at random to enforce stay-at-home orders.

ontario· niagara falls· doug ford· civil liberties· police state

1:35:24 Sir Upper Decker, not overboard. Seeing life take a few funny turns, I need some NA for balance. No jingles, just karma please. You got it, and thank you for your courage. You've got karma. And that's our executive producers and associate executive producers for show 1340. I want to thank every one of them for helping make this show happen. Indeed, we'll be thanking more of our producers in the second segment, $50 and above. If you'd like to participate in the grand experiment known as Value for Value, we've made it so that we are uncancellable because we don't take money from corporations, no advertising, no creepy money from China.

1:36:05 for anything like that. It's just you, the producers. You sponsor us, you support us, you make the show continue to turn. And that is through the three T's, your time, your talent, and your treasure. Please go to the following website to support us some more. Dvorak.org slash N-A. Or maybe it's just for the first time you're doing it. Regardless, thanks for producing 1340. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, slave! Shut up, slave!

1:36:56 country known as a Candanavia and our Candanavian brothers and sisters are in trouble and they're letting us know. We are down here in Niagara Falls, Ontario. We have a flag upside down in distress and we are about to Morse code SOS across the border to our neighbors. We are asking for help. We are hostages in our province now. We are no longer free to do whatever we want as our charter allows us. So they're sending Morse code with light across Niagara Falls. You know, it's funny, but if you watch that whole video, it's in the show notes. They're kind of serious. And I wondered, are we supposed to do something? Are we bad neighbors that we're not like,

1:37:43 I don't know, trying to help them out? The problem is they're across from, they're in the worst part of the United States and so far as COVID's concerned, which is New York. Yeah, you're right. They're not gonna get any help. They go over to the Vancouver side of things, maybe you can send a light from Victoria Island and get somewhere. So you asserted which... I'm sorry, Vancouver Island from the town of Victoria. Let's get that straight. You asserted on the last episode that Canadians, the way they get things done in Canada is by complaining. And that's what our producer referenced. Yes, well, I got this clip from one of our Canadian producers said John's absolutely right and it worked.

1:38:20 Good evening. The Ford government has announced it will be reversing course on its initial intent to allow for greater police powers. This comes just one day after the new measures were announced causing massive backlash. The announcement Friday allowed police to stop people at random and ask where they live. Today, the province taking that back and saying police will only be allowed to stop vehicles or people if they are suspected of participating in an organized public event or social gathering. The statement from Solicitor General Sylvia Jones sent this afternoon read, our priority has always been to address and discourage gatherings and crowds that violate the stay at home order and have the potential to further spread COVID-19.

1:39:04 the fact that anyone can be stopped and questioned by police just by virtue of being out of their home is, you know, it turns our normal world sort of on its head. The Canadian Civil Liberties Association was just one of the many groups outraged by the province's initial decision, even threatening to take legal action. Shortly after tonight's announcement, the organization said it will put the legal challenge on pause, saying the new order rationalizes and narrows the unconstitutional Friday standard. The new standard is also tied to a public health objective and avoids arbitrary detention. So they complain and then basically the authorities say, OK, we won't check everybody, just people who are suspicious.

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Rick Steves, Vaccine Endorphin Joy

Travel host Rick Steves described his experience receiving the COVID-19 vaccine as a "societal joy" that made his endorphins do "giddy flip-flops." The hosts characterize this as a new religious-like fervor surrounding the vaccination process.

rick steves· pbs· vaccine· endorphins· societal joy

1:39:52 I think you need to ramp up the complaining, Ontario. Yeah, ramp it up one more level and you'll get rid of that too. And Montreal has their own problems. They've got the giant voice system roaming the streets. Are you between 55 and 79 years old and would like to get vaccinated? We have a mobile vaccination clinic Yeah, I'll be running right out like it's the ice cream man. Oh, vaccination! Yeah! I'm so happy! Vaccination! Vaccination! Oh, this is... We've been talking about how happy people are at getting their vaccine. You know, people feeling invincible, feeling like they can take on the world, they can do anything.

1:40:37 Isn't Rick Steves, isn't he the travel guy on PBS? Rick Steves, yeah, he's the guy that travels. He's the guy that travels. So I'm not sure if this was on a PBS show or not, but he was talking about the vaccine and here's what he said. And when that syringe went into my shoulder, All of my endorphins just did these little happy giddy flip-flops, you know? And it wasn't a selfish joy, it was a societal joy. You know? He got all giddy and flip-flopped, and flip-flopped, and his endorphins were just making him so happy. And it's for society! And when that shot went in here, I thought, I'm doing a good deed for our entire community.

1:41:23 Yeah, this is part of the this is the good deed for the earth. This is a interesting meme that they've created. Which is you're doing you're not doing it for yourself. No, you're doing it for other people. This this idea because we are a generous folk, generally speaking, folk. So we would have a you know, you're Not driving as much, you're staying at home for the good of others. You're not staying at... It doesn't have to do with you, it's for others, others, others. And it's an interesting sales pitch because it does seem to affect a lot of people who must be guilt-ridden. They don't belong to church anymore. They don't go to church, they don't give their money to the ministries. They are completely... They're looking for an out. And this vaccine seems to be a religious out.

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Joe Biden, Patriotic Duty Vaccination

President Biden framed getting vaccinated as a "patriotic duty" and announced IRS tax credits for businesses that provide paid time off for vaccine recovery. Despite this, reports indicate mass vaccination sites across the US are closing due to a sharp decline in demand.

joe biden· patriotic duty· irs· vaccine demand· mass vaccination sites

1:42:12 President Biden? No working American should lose a single dollar from their paycheck because they chose to fulfill their patriotic duty of getting vaccinated. So patriotic duty. Yes. Yes. I caught that too. Unfortunately, I don't have it. One of my clips may actually incorporate that. Yes. I noticed this too. I thought this was wow. A patriotic, not only just a patriotic act, but the word duty. Duty. Yeah. It's your duty. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I was very upset by him saying that I had to bite him. Just let me give you the second part of that. The reason why is he's calling for

1:42:56 I don't know if he's even I think it's already a done deal the IRS will compensate businesses who give people time off for To recover from your back to recover since when has this ever happened? Oh, I need time Everyone needs structural time to recover from the vaccine because you know when you feel like you're dying that says the vaccine is working I don't even want it. It just makes me shake my head. Yeah, but it's it's true. I Hey Bill, what happened to Jim? He's dead? Oh, the vaccine must have been working. Wow, that was very South Park-y of you. I kind of like that. Let's play COVID Biden on getting vaccinated. I think this is similar to what you played, maybe a little longer.

1:43:47 Okay. Too many younger Americans may still think they don't need to get vaccinated. So let me explain two reasons why we need everyone over 16 years of age in America to get vaccinated and share what we're going to do to encourage it. The first reason, quite simply, is to keep you from getting very sick or dying. Hundreds of Americans are still dying from COVID every day. The data could not be clearer at this point. If you are fully vaccinated, Two weeks beyond your last shot, you are nearly 100% protected against death from COVID. No matter what your age, no matter what your health history. Until you are fully vaccinated, you are still vulnerable. The vaccine can save your life. The second reason to get vaccinated is to protect your community, your family, your friends and your neighbors. Vaccines can save your own life, but they can also save your grandmother's life.

1:44:48 your co-workers life, the grocery store clerk, or the delivery person, helping you and your neighbors get through the crisis. Now, that's why you should get vaccinated. It's not working anymore. Headline, more Americans now eligible for COVID-19 vaccine than ever. But mass vaccination sites are shutting down over decreased demand. And it's everywhere. The big mass vaccination sites in Florida, in Clarksville, in Georgia, North Carolina, all shutting down because no one is showing up. People have figured it out. They don't want this anymore. Like, eh, okay. You know, you're so opposite of my way of seeing this. Oh, I, I, I, you're, no, you're absolutely right. Everyone rushed to get the vaccine, but I think the rush is over.

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NPR Report, Vaccine Misinformation and VAERS

NPR reports that stories about people dying after vaccination are "viral misinformation," even if the deaths are factually true. The hosts counter this by pointing to the high number of adverse events reported in the VAERS database, which they argue the media ignores.

npr· misinformation· vaers· facebook· cdc

1:45:43 I'm not sure it's completely over yet because they're still pushing it. That brings me to a five-part, all shorts, five-part clip from NPR and this is the most amazing series of clips I've put together for quite a while because as it evolves you'll hear it. It's the truth is now bad. Wait, you're just figuring this one out. The truth is misinformation and they're promoting it just that way on NPR. Listen to this series. This is the vaccine misinformation clip series.

1:46:22 And this is part one and you'll start to hear it right away and it gets weirder and weirder and more Orwellian, let's use that word, as it goes on. Tomorrow Facebook, Twitter and Google will testify again before Congress. The subject, rampant disinformation on their platforms ranging from lies about the 2020 election to the COVID-19 rollout. New reporting from NPR out today shows that a specific type of story about vaccines has been spreading quickly online and may be leading to increased hesitancy. NPR's Miles Parks is here to explain. Hey there. Hey Ari. So what is this new data and what does it show about vaccine misinformation? Okay, so I can't wait to hear what the story is. Ari has the scoop. Hey, yeah. Hey, Adam. Hey, yeah. Hey, John. Should we play clip two, John?

1:47:13 Hey, here we go. So we analyzed the types of news stories that have gotten the most engagement on social media this year using data from this media tracking firm called News Whip. What we found was basically the stories specifically about people who have died sometime after being vaccinated went viral at a really high rate. Now health officials have obviously found no connection between these deaths and the shock they received. But these are stories that went viral at a really high rate.

1:47:51 Now health officials have obviously found no connection between these deaths and the shots they received, but these are stories with headlines that don't say that. They say basically person gets vaccine, dies two weeks later, and people who were probably already hesitant of vaccines are spreading those articles on social media as if they're evidence. We found Facebook pages with tens of thousands of followers sharing these articles with captions like, quote, I'll pass on the vaccinations or, quote, very concerned about those getting the poke. So this obviously is not showing anything representative or backed by science, but like just how far out of the mainstream is it? How far are we talking? Yeah, so what's interesting is that like you said very few people, very few vaccinated people have actually died. Something like .0018% according to the CDC. Oh, nice how you don't put that into absolute numbers. Well done.

1:48:45 0.00, was it 0.00? I question that number and I'd like people to try to track this down. It was some ridiculously low number. It's something like 0.0018 percent. First of all, this reporter says it's something like. This is not journalism. It's something. Obviously there was no connection. The wordage is perfect. It's something like 0.018 whatever. You know, it's your grandma. Empty chair. By the way, if you're going to say something like zero, something like and then have it so specific that you're down to the, you know, thousands.

1:49:23 That doesn't make any sense at all if you think about it. You posted the VAERS document on No Agenda Social, which I've now also replicated in the show notes. It's worth a look. I don't think there's ever been this many adverse reactions to a vaccine in the history or at least reported and that's what's being reported. And who's not reporting? How do you report it? Most people don't report. Horowitz went through two fever episodes, a sore arm. He didn't report to anybody. A friend of my daughter's who keeps pushing Jay to get the vaccine, but she had a miserable time, had to take time off of work. She couldn't move her arm. That wasn't reported. The number of things that are reported is minuscule compared to the effects people are having. I've never heard anyone just get through this thing with a straight up, oh,

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Lying Through Truth, Russian Malinformation Tactics

An NPR segment introduces the concept of "lying through truth" or "malinformation," where factually accurate anecdotes are used to create a "warped reality." The hosts argue this is exactly what the mainstream media did to Donald Trump for four years.

npr· orwellian· russia· malinformation· cherry picking

1:50:16 I got the shot, I'm fine. Well, hey, the president just offered companies to get a tax rebate or something for people to take time off to recover from it. And I think we should probably stop talking about Horowitz because I heard the last DH unplugged and now he's I think he's getting annoyed by us talking about him. So why don't we just... I told him that we'd stop. Yeah. So why don't we just save all of our comments for the wake? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That'll work. That's sick. We love we love him. No, I don't wish any I only wish you know, I don't even think he listens to the show. Oh, okay. Okay. Sure. Sure. Okay, let's go with this go with cliff three as we start to turn this thing gets very bizarre have died after getting their shot and that includes elderly people, people who already were suffering from other health conditions, but all the stop and stop again.

1:51:08 Remember the episode up in, I guess it was in Norway or Sweden, I think it was Norway, where they gave the whole group of people in a nursing home and 24 of them died right after the shot. And they said, well, maybe we shouldn't be giving it to people over 80. And meanwhile, but now does their report, no, no, no, nothing's ever happened. Who are they kidding? I'm sorry for interrupting there. Please play on. Have died after getting their shot and that includes elderly people, people who already were suffering from other health conditions. But online you get a very different picture. The vaccine story with the most engagement so far in 2021 was not about the vaccine rollout or about new trial research. It was about someone who died a couple weeks after getting a shot.

1:51:57 One of these stories has ranked near the top in engagement almost every other day this year. And what do we know about the effect that that has on people consuming these stories? So research shows that people generally are pretty bad at assessing risk, but that's especially true after they hear a vivid story. I talked to Dean Freeland, who is a communications professor at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill. This is something that we see, I think, repeatedly with human cognition, the emphasis on the breathless anecdotes and then the discounting of statistics. You know, there's just no way that if you're one of these people who either commented, liked or shared one of these articles that connects vaccines to death, that you're going to be more likely to get a vaccine, even though again, there has been no scientific connection between the two things.

1:52:48 But it's interesting that he calls it a breathless anecdote, which is different from an outright lie and I would imagine makes it tougher for these big tech companies to deal with. Yeah, absolutely. He basically made the distinction of it's not really disinformation, but it is a fallacy. I also talked to Brett Schaefer, who studies online disinformation at the Alliance for Securing Democracy think tank. What he told me is he thinks about it as lying through truth. A recent report he co-authored found actually that Russia has started using this tactic more and more. Hold on a second, hold on a second, hold on a second. Lying through truth? I gotta hear this again. Hold on. You gotta back it up because then the punchline at the end is Russia. Yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to step on it, but you also like jumped on it. Let me hear it again. There's been no scientific connection between the two things. But it's interesting that he calls it a breathless anecdote, which is different from an outright lie and I would imagine makes it tougher for these big tech companies.

1:53:44 companies to deal with. Yeah, absolutely. He basically made the distinction of it's not really disinformation but it is a fallacy. I also talked to Brett Schaefer who studies online disinformation at the Alliance for Securing Democracy think tank. What he told me is he thinks about it as lying through truth. A recent report he co-authored found actually that Russia has started using this tactic online more and more. Ugh, lying through truth. What does that even mean? And Russia. Well, of course. Wow. Okay. I'm ready. Lying Through Truth. This is now, this has become, this report has now gone into the Orwellian stratosphere. Lying Through Truth. It's a show title. It's a little long, but yeah, it's not bad. Okay. That was clip three, I believe. Yes.

1:54:40 Okay, there's a little short bit right here in clip four. It's this sort of malinformation and use of selectively cherry-picked truth to create this completely warped sense of reality. And the end effect is essentially the same as a false narrative. Wow! That's exactly what they do! Ha! That's exactly why they clip so short. This is what they did to Trump. Exactly what they did to Trump. Exactly. I would like to play this clip again. You got it. It's this sort of malinformation and use of selectively cherry picked truth to create this completely warped sense of reality. And the end effect is essentially the same as a false narrative. Wow.

1:55:31 Wow, well there's hey takes one to know one That's great so I guess but you know that that's what we're accused of too Well, they just cherry-picked little things that are true and then turn into a whole narrative man three hours. Yeah. Well, we've been doing it It's not just a few things because we're at for 14 years. Yeah at some point you think that you know averaging 50 clips an episode We're not making it up people This stuff's out there. It's how we're doing is playing it. That's right. Okay. Here. He here he raps

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NHS Public Service Announcement, UK Ethnic Minorities

A UK government PSA targeted at ethnic minorities claims the COVID-19 vaccine contains no pork or fetal tissue and is the "only way" to boost immunity. The hosts flag several statements in the ad as blatant lies, particularly the claim that herd immunity is not an option.

nhs· united kingdom· pork· fertility· herd immunity

1:56:08 Now, executives at Facebook have alluded to this being a problem, but they also say there isn't a clear solution when it comes to policing how people relay true information. Tomorrow, the leaders of Facebook and Twitter are testifying in front of Congress, and it'll be interesting to see whether this trend gets asked of them about how are they going to respond. That is some original reporting there from NPR's Miles Parks. Thank you so much for your insight. Thanks Ari. Such insight, thanks Ari. Wow. Original reporting, original reporting. You want to hear some misinformation? I got some misinformation for you. The longest clip I have. But I think it's worth listening through and we will have to stop it. This is a public service announcement from the National Health Service in the United Kingdom. They start off, it's a video but the audio is just fine.

1:57:01 And it starts off with a blue slide that says this is being aired simultaneously on BBC, ITV, Sky, Channel 4, whatever have you. So clearly this is not... So don't bother changing the channels. That's right, because it's going to be on every single channel. And it is specifically for UK ethnic minorities to Motivate them to get the the poke by the way I thought that was great from the the NPR guy I had not heard the poke out in the way I like poke the poke the poke we use that as a show that's also a show tell the poke yeah I like that a lot listen to how they want and these are celebrities none of whom we know not all celebrities a couple of my doctors you know it's your typical thing we've seen it here but this is specifically targeted towards UK ethnic minorities Muslims and

1:57:55 And here we go. And the music is great. Hello, Namaste, As-Salaam-Alaikum. This past year has been challenging for us all, with many of us losing our loved ones. But we will be reunited with our friends and family. All we have to do It's just take the vaccine. Many in our community. So just so you know, there's nothing else. Hey, all you gotta do is just take the vaccine. All we have to do is just take the vaccine.

1:58:33 Many in our community have suffered the most largely due to our efforts on the front line at the NHS or as key workers. Looking after others and serving our community is what we do. It's how we've been brought up. This is interesting because it's now there's talking about Indians and Pakistanis specifically. They're very racist like they're the only doctors. That's why we have such immense pride when a family member becomes a doctor or a nurse. I have so much respect for them. They need our respect now more than ever. Today, those doctors and scientists have found us a way forward. A COVID-19 vaccine that will help save lives. There is no scientific evidence to suggest that the vaccine will work differently for people from ethnic minorities. In fact... Whoa!

1:59:21 This I don't understand. There's no sign that this will work differently for ethnic minorities. However, in the United States we always hear that black and brown people are the ones that get more, are disproportionately affected. So only American black and brown people? Definitely not African black and brown people. Hmm people from ethnic minorities in fact the scientists who develop one of the most widely used vaccines are Muslim The vaccine does not include pork or any material of fecal or animal origin This is a joke no this are you playing a parody no and that that pill machine was also real no I know it sounds crazy, but this is not a parody and

2:00:06 And there's no pork in the vaccine. Okay, lie. An outright lie. Taking the COVID vaccine is the only way to boost your immune system? Are you kidding me now? That's a lie! The vaccine does not include pork.

2:00:42 or any material of fetal or animal origin. The vaccine does not contain the virus itself, only harmless elements from it. Taking the vaccine is the only way to boost your immunity against COVID for you and your loved ones. The vaccine was available quickly because of a global effort. Because huge funds were made available by governments around the world. Oh, who developed these vaccines? I mean, not that I want us to take credit for it, but please. You're telling me now that we are the world did this, the World Economic Forum, that the World Health Organization, that they did it only because we put all our money together? Really? Really? So something that would normally take years took just months. It's very, very rare for vaccines to have a long term side effect.

2:01:28 Very, very rare for vaccines have long-term side. Don't worry, don't look over there. What we do know is that COVID-19's long-term implications are deadly. The COVID-19 vaccines have gone through the same strict processes and regulations as other vaccines such as... lie for measles mumps rubella and TB now that is just an outright lie it's not an approved vaccine and you're saying it's gone through the same stringent trials which would include long-term trials animal trials these people are lying there's no that is a that is an out-and-out lie outright lie put on all the networks in the UK the UK should be ashamed of itself for putting this kind of dreck on the air

2:02:11 It's unconscious. It's blatant lies. Yeah, it's a lie. This is absolute. Official government lies. There it is. There's official government lies right there. There's those Kuri and Dvorak man picking little truths to create a narrative. Who wrote a note in that got your goat? No, no, it wasn't about us at all actually. But you know that's what's being that's okay Reddit. The COVID-19 vaccines have gone through the same strict processes and regulations as other vaccines such as for measles, mumps, rubella and TB. There is no chip or tracker in the vaccine to keep watching where you go. Your mobile phone actually does a much better job of that.

2:02:54 I love that throwaway line from the government. By the way, we're not tracking you through the vaccine. We got you. We got you on your cell phone. There is no chip or tracker in the vaccine to keep watching where you go. Your mobile phone actually does a much better job of that. Pregnant women are not excluded from the vaccine but should discuss their case with the doctor. There's also no evidence to suggest the vaccine affects fertility. Herd immunity is not an option as many millions will need to be infected. Okay, hold on a second. Herd immunity is not an option. Isn't that the whole point of vaccinations to achieve herd immunity? This is unbelievable. No, it's true!

2:03:35 affects fertility. Herd immunity is not an option as many millions will need to be infected causing a disastrous number of deaths. The vaccine does not change or damage our DNA. Not taking the vaccine can damage us more. Three of my aunties and all my uncles have had the vaccine. My mom has had the vaccine. My dad... So then they just go into a whole long thing about how they've all, they're all groovy, they've all been vaxxed. This is filled with riddled with lies. Riddled with lies. But there you go. Well, a couple of things. A couple of things. One, first of all, I think the clip is a long clip. And two, I think you should get Clip of the Day for it. No, thank you. It is long and I prefaced it. I will have a proviso that

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Donald Trump, Pfizer and FDA Collusion

In an interview with Sean Hannity, Donald Trump alleged that Pfizer is "in with the FDA" and influenced the pause of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine to protect its own market share. Trump criticized the pause as a "terrible thing" for public relations.

donald trump· sean hannity· pfizer· fda· johnson and johnson

2:04:28 It's so bad, that clip, that I doubt it. I doubt that it's real. Well, I have the video. It's online. It's in the show notes. Looks pretty damn real to me. It's just because it's hard to believe that something like this would be put out. Yeah, I mean, I have a whole bin full of lies, which I've cherry-picked carefully for your enjoyment. But before we do that, let's go talk about marketing. This is the great marketing reset. This is where Pfizer wants to pull ahead. And in a very candid moment, which is really a six-minute segment chopped down to a buck thirty-eight, President Trump was on Hannity and oh my god I do not miss the way this guy jumps around at all. Instead of just coming out and saying it, I've got like piece it together because he goes off on tangents about himself and it was a reminder how hard it is to get anything good out of him. It's much easier just to grab little things where he's acting completely nuts.

2:05:32 And he pretty much said Pfizer's in bed with the FDA and they screwed Johnson & Johnson for Pfizer's benefit. Okay, then I did two things. I backed the companies up financially and Pfizer didn't want to admit it and they had to retract their statement. You know, Pfizer's really in. Okay, I'll give you a little breaking news. Pfizer is in with the FDA. And what the FDA did with Johnson & Johnson is so stupid. You know, they all want me to do a commercial because a lot of our people Don't want to take vaccine. You know, I don't know what that is exactly Republican I don't know what it is. You encourage people to get I encourage him to take it I do but they want me to make of it. Did you get it? They what? Yes, I did They what I had it and I took it. Okay, you got both because I believe so here's the thing They want me to do a commercial saying take the vaccine well And they think that's very important and I'd certainly do it. But then I call him I say let me ask you a question you just did something six people out of eight million people and

2:06:30 Somebody said that Tylenol, women's birth control, will cause far more. Six people experienced some difficulty. Six people and that's too bad. It's terrible. But they paused it. That's the worst thing you could have done from a public relations standpoint. They paused Johnson & Johnson vaccine. And it probably even affects the other vaccines a little bit. But they paused it. It's had a devastating impact. Pfizer got together, and I'll tell you something, I think it's very suspect is what they did with Johnson & Johnson. Because the only people that are happy about that are Pfizer and Moderna. The only people that are happy about that, because what they did is a terrible, terrible thing.

2:07:20 Sounds like he's understanding of what went down as we called it as well. Let's keep it. Well, we call it right away. Mm-hmm the it's also is compounding a little bit some Jay found a pic article about Johnson and Jitt would kind of headline Johnson and Johnson factory flu factory or Vaccine yes, yes shut down. Yep. Yep. And when you read the article it turns out it's some factory that's not even operating and it was not even approved. They were thinking of maybe turning it into a vaccine plant but then they decided not to because they got shut down anyway and it's another bogus planet story by Pfizer. Sure. Pfizer's behind all this. Now let's see if we can figure out who's behind this or if this is just a true mistake.

2:08:14 New at 530, Walgreen says it recently learned one of its North Carolina pharmacies mistakenly injected patients with saline instead of the COVID-19 vaccine. The company says it has reached out to all the affected patients in Monroe and Union County and had them come back to the pharmacy to get the real COVID shots. They'll be able to get their second doses on time, but the mistake has some people worried. Walgreen says it is taking immediate steps to go over procedures with staff to keep this from happening again. How does that happen? I mean, there has to be an actual bottle that you stick the needle into and draw the vaccine into the syringe that says COVID-19 vaccine on it. If it says anything but that, don't you think that would be noticed? I mean, and of course, there's no reporting on this. How does that accidentally happen? And what if they accidentally inject me with something that I'm really not supposed to be injected with?

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Walgreens Saline Mistake, Monroe North Carolina

A Walgreens pharmacy in Monroe, North Carolina, mistakenly injected patients with saline instead of the COVID-19 vaccine. The company is investigating how the error occurred and has asked affected patients to return for the actual shot.

walgreens· saline· north carolina· pharmacy error· vaccine

2:07:20 Sounds like he's understanding of what went down as we called it as well. Let's keep it. Well, we call it right away. Mm-hmm the it's also is compounding a little bit some Jay found a pic article about Johnson and Jitt would kind of headline Johnson and Johnson factory flu factory or Vaccine yes, yes shut down. Yep. Yep. And when you read the article it turns out it's some factory that's not even operating and it was not even approved. They were thinking of maybe turning it into a vaccine plant but then they decided not to because they got shut down anyway and it's another bogus planet story by Pfizer. Sure. Pfizer's behind all this. Now let's see if we can figure out who's behind this or if this is just a true mistake.

2:08:14 New at 530, Walgreen says it recently learned one of its North Carolina pharmacies mistakenly injected patients with saline instead of the COVID-19 vaccine. The company says it has reached out to all the affected patients in Monroe and Union County and had them come back to the pharmacy to get the real COVID shots. They'll be able to get their second doses on time, but the mistake has some people worried. Walgreen says it is taking immediate steps to go over procedures with staff to keep this from happening again. How does that happen? I mean, there has to be an actual bottle that you stick the needle into and draw the vaccine into the syringe that says COVID-19 vaccine on it. If it says anything but that, don't you think that would be noticed? I mean, and of course, there's no reporting on this. How does that accidentally happen? And what if they accidentally inject me with something that I'm really not supposed to be injected with?

2:09:11 It's beyond me. And the Covid vaccines are in these refrigerators and they have to be brought out and they're just kept separate. Then all of a sudden the saline, the bottle is the same exact size, looks exactly identical. Are you kidding me? Ooh, I got a nice one. In the troll room says it could also be a rogue pharmacist who knows and is trying to save people. That's a good one. It could be, well we don't have anything in this report, I mean gosh, why report on that? Just tell people. No, the report has no information whatsoever. Zero, very low information report there. Now this does tie into the control groups being destroyed. As Pfizer and Moderna have announced that since it's kind of not fair for the people who receive the placebo in the trial

CHAPTER 39 / 55 Discussion

Anthony Fauci, Republican Vaccine Hesitancy

Dr. Anthony Fauci expressed frustration with the high percentage of Republicans refusing the vaccine. He argued that the only way to remove public health restrictions is for the "disturbingly large proportion" of hesitant conservatives to get vaccinated.

anthony fauci· dana bash· republicans· vaccine hesitancy· cnn

2:10:01 to not have the vaccine, now they're just going to give them all the vaccine for free. For free is what is supposed to distract you from the fact that the minute you do that, you've removed the control group for long-term effects, which I'm sure they don't really want having around. This is not scientific. It's cruel, cruel. Science. But anyway, we all know it's Republicans. Our new poll this week shows that 43% of Republicans still don't want to get the vaccine. How frustrating is this for you, Dr. Fauci?

2:10:37 You know, Dana, it is quite frustrating because the fact that one may not want to get vaccinated, in this case a disturbingly large proportion of Republicans, actually works against where they want to be. They want to be able to say these restrictions that are put on by public health recommendations are things that they're very concerned about. We're all concerned about that. We share that concern. But the way you get rid of those restrictions is to get as many people vaccinated as quickly and as expeditiously as possible, because when that happens, for absolutely certain, you're going to see the level of virus in the community go down and down and down to the point where you would not have to have those public health restrictions. So it's almost paradoxical

2:11:26 But on the one hand, they want to be relieved of the restrictions. But on the other hand, they don't want to get vaccinated. It just almost doesn't make any sense. Of course not. The Republicans, man. Come on. That's what you want to say. Republicans are idiots. You know what the word is? If you talk about this to the liberals in the Bay Area. OK. Oh, they don't want to get a shot. Good. More shots for me and they can die. And people thought I was ghoulish with my Horowitz comment. Crap. That's really what they're saying? Is this at your dinner table or how did you hear this? No, not at the dinner table. If you talk to Lib Joe's and anybody else around here, that's the response you get. And what do you say to something like that? If someone says that, what do you say? What are you supposed to say? You know, you're sick. You could get a shrink or something. You got something wrong with you. Ah, this. Well, I have an important announcement to make.

2:12:26 But first, a quick PSA from NBC Nightly News. As vaxability eligibility expands, make a plan for when and where to get vaccinated. Visit planyourvaccine.com. I just love vaxability eligibility. Do you think that was a flub? Vax-ability eligibility. Play it again. I think he flubbed it. Play it again. Listen more carefully. I'm not sure it was a flub. What I think was supposed to be said was vaccine eligibility. He rolls out vax-ability and then just goes with it. As vax-ability eligibility expands, make a plan for when and where to get vaccinated. Visit planyourvaccine.com. I love vax-ability. Well, he plowed right through it as like a pro. Pro. Pro. Pro move.

CHAPTER 40 / 55 Discussion

Fluvoxamine COVID Treatment, Mass Hysteria Theory

Small studies published in JAMA suggest that Fluvoxamine, a common antidepressant used for OCD, may prevent severe COVID-19 symptoms. The hosts suggest this supports their theory that the pandemic involves a significant element of mass hysteria.

fluvoxamine· ssri· mass hysteria· abbott laboratories· ocd

2:13:12 Yeah, pro move and because in real time his brain said, you know, it was the wrong word but actually going back and correcting it. You shouldn't do that because it's actually sounds right. We'll do it live! All instant. All instant. Pro, pro. Lester's a pro. Can't take that away from him. Very, very, very tight. All right, so- Well, VaxAbility is another possibility for a show title. Yes, it's fantastic as a show title. Now- Oh, now we're inundated. Check this, because this goes back to one of your theories. You just said these people are insane, they've got mental health problems, they should probably go see a psychiatrist. One of your assertions has been that a lot of what we're seeing is mass hysteria. Would you like to expound on that just for a moment?

2:14:00 Yeah, the mass hysteria, there's a column you can dig it up if you go to dvorak.substack.com and go back you can see the list of columns, there's one on mass hysteria. Mass hysteria, which is not an unknown phenomenon, and I've documented some of the more extreme cases, happens to a public at large and it results in this insanity. And I think there's an element of mass hysteria that's been going on for almost a year. Now, what is the result of the mass hysteria? Well, everybody all thinks things are going on that aren't going on. They're imagining things that you can actually get sick.

2:14:40 You can imagine, there's been cases where people have gotten, there's a lot of examples of a whole audience, large groups of people in geographic areas where they all hear about some, there's like a bug or some bug around that's biting people and it's making them get paralyzed on one side and they all, there's no bug but they all get paralyzed anyway. I mean, it's a mass hysteria as a phenomenon, it's just frightening. Good morning America, hour three. But there's some interesting news about a possible treatment. Exactly, and listen, as we watch the goings on of this pandemic, remember we're focused on prevention, immunization, we're focused on testing, and we're focused on treatment. You have to do all of those things at the same time. So some interesting news about treatments. In particular, using a very commonly used antidepressant, it's called Fluvoxamine, it's an SSRI.

2:15:34 used to treat OCD and depression. In two very small studies that have been published, they showed some promising results in patients with COVID treated with this drug. In particular, a recent study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association compared head-to-head placebo versus this commonly used antidepressant in patients with COVID-19. The number of patients who got this drug had no hospitalizations, so some interesting and encouraging data there. Possible mechanisms at play, Amy, it may prevent a cytokine storm, that so-called inflammatory response which we know can be so dangerous in patients with COVID, but it is still under research, not ready for prime time yet.

2:16:17 So, an antidepressant which might control mass hysteria is now resulting small trials, don't get too enthusiastic yet, is now resulting in people who are not getting sick. Well, how about that? That's interesting. Yeah, it would make sense. And it gets better. Fluvoxamine was developed by Kali Dufar, part of Solvay Pharmaceuticals in Belgium. That company is now known as Abbott Laboratories. The very people who are making billions of dollars on bullcrap PCR testing, whose business of course is shutting down as people aren't getting tested as much. So why don't they throw, hey, what do we got? We got some shit over here. Do a study, all right? Boom. I mean, everyone's just trying to get in on the business. Oh, it's a bonanza. Yeah. I mean, that's what we're doing.

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COVID Death Benefits, New York Transit Workers

The Transport Workers Union of New York has negotiated a $500,000 death benefit for families of members who die of COVID-19. The hosts argue this creates a financial incentive to misclassify deaths, while also noting the limitations of PCR testing.

pcr test· carey mullis· death benefits· new york city· transit union

2:17:22 I'm just like, wow, that's crazy. Hold on, I just need to stay on the money unless you have something about this. No, but you mentioned PCR test. I want to mention that our Canadian complainers have pointed out that they're pushing the PCR numbers up to 47 to so everyone is getting this supposedly has the disease and nobody does. Yeah. And a reminder people, we've kind of forgotten cases does not mean people are infected falling down dead in the street. They're not on their way to the ICU. It's probably overly concerned people who are getting over tested.

2:18:01 And whatever else is going on with this PCR polymer chain reaction, which was never intended to diagnose anything according to its inventor, Carey Mullis, who unfortunately died just before this all happened. Whoops. The money bonanza is cool. You'll recall two shows ago we played, I'll just play a little bit of this clip of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Chuck Schumer in New York City. And so I'm very excited to say that today is the day the hotline is open and because that hotline is open you can call into FEMA and you can start this process today. Now we know here in New York

2:18:42 how tough those early days were. So the idea is if a family member died, you can go to the hospital, have that have the death certificate changed to add COVID because we got money for you. And I am looking here at TWULocal100.org for the Transport Workers Union of New York. who have negotiated a significant, precedented-setting COVID-19 death benefit. So if you go get it changed, here's what you get. $500,000 in payments to families of members who contracted the virus and died. It's a bonanza. Proof of vaccination or a valid documented exception will be required for eligibility. You want half a mil? Take the jab, take the poke, take the shot.

2:19:44 Maybe, and it's not lump sum, so maybe they hope these people then die from this thing as well, from the vaccine, and then they'll have to pay him. I mean, it's... It's out of control. It's fantastic though. It's just, it's beautiful. Let me see what else did I have that was fun? So I have the one last I had the one last clip I can play where you're looking for yours, which is love to Kovacs Biden comments. It's great progress But if we let up now and stop being vigilant this virus will erase the progress We've already achieved the sacrifices we made the lives that put on hold the loved ones who've been taken from us the time We're never gonna get back

2:20:27 To celebrate our independence from this virus on July 4th with family and friends and small groups We still have more to do in the months of May and June President Joe is gonna cancel July 4th. It's actually going to go from July 3rd to July 5th He's going to cancel the whole day because we're not doing our patriotic duty. Hey blow me Bo Jiden Almost as bad as the minister of the Prime Minister of New Zealand Yes, Indah very very unfort this not this is Let's make something clear Nobody as bad as Bojai din is nobody in the world is as bad as this woman and she is so good at

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Jacinda Ardern, Vaccinated Border Worker Infection

New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern confirmed that a border worker who tested positive for COVID-19 was fully vaccinated. The hosts use this to highlight the apparent failure of the vaccine to prevent transmission or infection in "red zone" environments.

jacinda ardern· new zealand· australia· breakthrough infection· quarantine

2:19:44 Maybe, and it's not lump sum, so maybe they hope these people then die from this thing as well, from the vaccine, and then they'll have to pay him. I mean, it's... It's out of control. It's fantastic though. It's just, it's beautiful. Let me see what else did I have that was fun? So I have the one last I had the one last clip I can play where you're looking for yours, which is love to Kovacs Biden comments. It's great progress But if we let up now and stop being vigilant this virus will erase the progress We've already achieved the sacrifices we made the lives that put on hold the loved ones who've been taken from us the time We're never gonna get back

2:20:27 To celebrate our independence from this virus on July 4th with family and friends and small groups We still have more to do in the months of May and June President Joe is gonna cancel July 4th. It's actually going to go from July 3rd to July 5th He's going to cancel the whole day because we're not doing our patriotic duty. Hey blow me Bo Jiden Almost as bad as the minister of the Prime Minister of New Zealand Yes, Indah very very unfort this not this is Let's make something clear Nobody as bad as Bojai din is nobody in the world is as bad as this woman and she is so good at

2:21:20 at showing us how bad she really is with a smile on her face and just waltzes through every scientific untruth that you can as a worker, a border worker, border worker, someone who works on the border of two different sections of Australia, who cleans airplanes, contracted COVID. Yes, all of the signs here pointing very much to the fact that this was a border worker who did work in an environment where they were coming into contact with the planes that are used to transport people from red zones, so from high-risk countries.

2:22:07 So this is an individual who boards planes to clean them after they've come from places where there is COVID, carrying passengers with COVID. So a very clear link at this stage to cases that are high risk. Yes, but? Well, I can confirm that this was someone who was vaccinated and fully vaccinated quite early on. She's proud of it. Well, yes, she got the she got COVID, but I can confirm she was vaccinated, fully vaccinated. Great job. And confirmed that this was someone who was vaccinated and fully vaccinated quite early on in the campaign. This is also someone who is part of routine testing. So they were last tested

2:22:46 on the 12th and then the 19th, so regular testing, and it was their most recent test in which this case has been picked up. So you can see those protocols there working as we would intend. And look, when we opened on both sides, we of course knew that we would continue to have cases connected to our border. In fact, when we announced the date for opening the trans-tasman bubble, Queensland was dealing with cases linked to its border. So we accept that's going to be part of our journey together. I think Australia accepts that and for both sides we're always looking for clear connection to the border in this case there is. So it's like it's the border, it's the border, it's from the red zones, infected people but just oh yeah but she was fully vaccinated. Hello? Hello? Hello?

CHAPTER 43 / 55 Discussion

Masking Rationale, Nasopharynx Viral Replication

Dr. Fauci explains that vaccinated individuals must still wear masks because they can harbor viral replication in their nasopharynx and inadvertently infect others. He maintains that while the risk to the vaccinated person is low, the community risk remains "precarious."

anthony fauci· masks· transmission· cdc· variants

2:23:35 When will we get past this and open our eyes? It's just out of control. And by the way, I'm gonna start using her pronunciation of Australia. Okay, and I'm gonna use t-esting. Is there any chance that the tests are just no good? That she only tested positive and that she's not sick and falling down? That she just tested positive because there's routine testing? Maybe. I don't know. News media, thanks for not telling us. Let's give it one more shot on the poke. Fauci trying to get everyone to take the poke and doing that with Dana Bash. Oh, what? I mean, what's going to happen when we get the poke? What are the restrictions? What's going on? Dr. Fauci, help us. I do want to ask about the coronavirus restrictions still in effect, even for fully vaccinated Americans. This is a good question. Some vaccinated Americans may want to travel, eat indoors at restaurants, feel like they don't need to wear masks

2:24:29 outdoors, around others. You've been touting how effective the vaccine is. So what is the scientific reason that it isn't safe for vaccinated Americans to do those things? You know, the issue is it depends on what you mean by safe and its relative risk. So let me explain. No, no. Her question was about scientific reasons. scientific reasons. It isn't safe for vaccinated Americans to do those things. You know, the issue is it depends on what you mean by safe and its relative risk. So let me explain, Dan. The first thing you got to realize that when you get vaccinated, your risk of getting infected dramatically diminishes and is very low.

2:25:11 So then the obvious question is why are there any restrictions? They're all because in a certain situation one can get vaccinated, have no clinical disease at all, but get infected and not even know it and have replication of virus in your nasopharynx and inadvertently transmit it to somebody else who might actually be unvaccinated and get ill. That's the reason why you want to wear a mask. The other reason for wearing a mask is that there are variants that are circulating and although they're they're unusual, we are seeing breakthrough infections. But we're also seeing variants that are a bit disturbing. Fortunately for us, the 117

2:25:54 which is the variant that was originating in the UK, our vaccines are very effective against them. So when people say, well, why can't I go? You can travel. Your risk is really very low. What the CDC is saying is that it depends on what your level of risk that you want to take. The one thing you want to do is be careful that you don't inadvertently infect someone else or that given the fact that we have 70,000, 60 to 70,000 new infections in the community, that is a precarious situation. That's the point. So we don't want people to think that you don't dramatically diminish your risk when you get vaccinated. You absolutely do. The risk is very low.

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Year of the Variant, Viral Mutation Science

Public health experts in Scotland predict a "year of the variant," comparing the need for new vaccines to "catching Pokemon." Conversely, Dr. Kelly Victory explains that viruses typically mutate to become more contagious but less virulent as a survival mechanism.

scotland· variants· pokemon· dr kelly victory· mutation

2:26:41 And people will make decisions about what they want to do and it will be a relative risk. What risk am I willing to take? Again, now all of a sudden, oh, it's very effective against the B117 variant. I don't understand why he says that. That's not in the marketing plan. The whole idea is for the variants to be the problem. And that's what this professor of public health of Edinburgh University says. It kind of feels like we're trying to clean up the mess under a leaky faucet. I mean, right now we have a very unscientific, red list approach to what countries you are, you have to do managed quarantine and which ones you don't. So in Scotland, all countries are required to do managed quarantine because we don't know where the next variant is coming from. And also India, for example, it has the highest cases now in the world. It is not

2:27:34 on the red list. So I think right now we need to look at three things going forward. The first is, you know, border restrictions to protect our domestic progress, keep the economy moving forward, keep schools open. The second thing is vaccinating the world, getting vaccines out to people in all parts, not just in Britain, but this pandemic isn't over till we actually solve it everywhere. And the third is the scientific progress on a universal coronavirus vaccine. So a vaccine that can deal with all the variants as well as potentially different strains, which could be considerably different. This is going to be the year of the variant. And as more and more variants emerge, it's a bit like Pokemon. We just got to catch them all and have a vaccine that can do that.

2:28:11 It's like Pokemon! We just gotta catch them all! So it's going to be the year of the variants. I think she's right, and I think she's jumping ahead of... she shouldn't be. Oh yeah, she's jumping ahead of the script. Yeah. Although Dr. Fauci says we've got that pesky B-117, we've got that one licked. Let's talk about variants. What are they exactly? Dr. Drew still does his podcast. He seems like a pretty straight shooter. When he's wrong, he admits it. He's definitely not politically motivated, I don't think. in his analyses and he had Dr. Kelly Victory on the show who sounds like a Republican superhero but she is a doctor and she discussed the variants or mutations. First of all, all viruses mutate and that's a fact of life. The great news is when they mutate they become weaker.

2:29:05 Less virulent. Usually, usually in the history of mankind. I mean, I defy anyone. This is one of the things that's really bothered me about the lay press, the mainstream media, and even those people at the helm would talk about these, quote, dangerous variants. variants will become more contagious. It's a survival mechanism for the virus. As it mutates, it becomes more contagious and less severe. That's how the virus continues to stay alive or to stay in existence because it doesn't behoove the, not that I'm personifying a virus, if you could think, it doesn't behoove the virus to kill a larger and larger percentage of hosts because it will end up

2:29:48 becoming extinct. So viruses all mutate, but they become weaker as they do. We have no reason to believe that any of these viruses will escape the vaccinations or frankly, the other treatments like hydroxychloroquine or the immune or your immune response. So that sounds right. And it sounds like a perfect setup for more PCR test that's we crank the numbers yes they're doing in Canada but let's mention something that we mentioned or year ago mm-hmm which is the original thesis that the that the

CHAPTER 45 / 55 Discussion

Lab Leak Theory, Genomic Information

Dr. Kelly Victory asserts that genomic information confirms COVID-19 was a lab-modified virus rather than a naturally occurring one from a wet market. This echoes earlier claims by Nobel laureate Luc Montagnier, who has since disappeared from public discourse.

luc montagnier· china· lab leak· genomic· kelly victory

2:30:29 Nobel Prize winning in medicine, French doctor said that this virus was created in the lab and he saw how it was created and why it might have been created and he said don't worry about it because it will mutate and slowly revert back to what it is possibly originally a common cold. And that's what it seems to be doing. It seems to be mutating, it seems to be reverting back to its, you know, the base level of a coronavirus is the common cold. That is the commonest of all the coronaviruses. Except the ones you find in bats.

2:31:11 That's what I'm seeing. You can look at the charts, all the cases are way up and the deaths are way down because very few people die of a common cold. We also never heard from that French doctor again, ever. He's gone, wiped from the face of the earth. Dr. Kelly did touch on that subject. This virus had emanated from a wet market in China. That story, I actually thought that was plausible. Frankly, having spent a lot of time in those wet markets myself in China and seeing what goes on there, as soon as we had access to the actual genomic information about the virus, it became very, very clear to me that that was not the case, that this was

2:31:54 a lab modified virus. I make no, I won't say whether or not how it was it got out, whether that was purposeful or not. I have no idea if it was a lab error, just abject incompetence or something in between, but I have no question that this was a lab modified virus. It was not naturally occurring. All right, she might be going to visit the French doctor soon. She's done. Get her out. Shut her up by any means possible. What I love about Big Pharma and their total paid for stooges through advertising in the mainstream media, and of course the biosecurity state and everything that goes along with it, is when they kind of get caught and called out on something that was just so ridiculous,

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Surface Transmission Risk, CDC Policy Shift

The CDC officially acknowledged that the risk of contracting COVID-19 from surfaces is less than 1 in 10,000. The hosts criticize the media for using late-night comedy to dismiss the year of "hygiene theater" and Clorox wiping that was previously mandated.

cdc· stephen colbert· clorox· surface transmission· hygiene theater

2:32:43 that was being called ridiculous from day one, namely, you can get COVID from surfaces. You know, they don't do big reports saying good news everybody you can't get from services. So this is good This is very positive. We learned something. Hey, we made a mistake. No, no No Instead you give it to the joke writers at the biggest stooge of all at CBS the CIA broadcast system Stephen Colbert and this is how you handle it. There's more new big kovat news You can stop Cloroxing your groceries. Because yesterday in a phone call, the CDC acknowledged what scientists have known for months. The risk of contracting the virus from touching a contaminated surface is less than 1 in 10,000. In unrelated news, anyone looking to buy a box of wipes? I traded a kidney for these last April. And that's his CIA producer who wrote the joke. Yes. That's how they do it.

2:33:48 Let's just work make a joke out of it. No, no apologies. Just joke Well, that's gross. Okay. Yeah, I'm trying to think if there's anything else we need to do before you think so You know, I'm looking at we've had it I mean, there's so much stuff that's just there but it's kind of repetitive at this point But that and just so people understand that's what the media is giving us. We're only deconstructing what's there and this is just not much else they talk about No, you know we're good. Yeah, I think we're good too. Are you good? I'm good everybody. We're good I'm gonna show my school by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun And indeed we do have a few people to thank for show 1340 we're on our way mm-hmm starting with Lindsey is it

CHAPTER 47 / 55 Discussion

Earth Day Shortfall, Final Donor Recognition

The hosts review the final list of $50 and $100 donors, noting a "shortfall" in Earth Day-themed contributions. They thank producers from the UK, Tasmania, and across the US for supporting the "Value for Value" model.

value for value· earth day· tasmania· missouri· colorado

2:34:50 Jarrett, is it Jarrett? $100. David Wallman in Fenton, Missouri, $100. Ian Field in Eastleigh, Hampshire, UK, $100. Samantha Foggin. Are these made up names? Foggin? I don't know. Probably Roganites, man. I don't know. Foggin? Foggin. F-O-G-G-O-N is her name. And she's in Beauty Point, Tasmania. Oh! Where they do lots of... near the Tiestes? No, that's... yeah. She's got a call to her smoking hot husband. Nice. A 3x33. Nice. Oh, that's what the donation is. Okay. Yeah. Justin, and that was $99. Justin Rawlings in Richetal Falls, Texas, 88, 88. Sir Patrick Kobol is hanging in there, Duke of the South, 88, 88. And he's sending some lucky eights for Dame Sarah's birthday celebration. And he says, you're my best friend and I love you bunches. Oh.

2:35:53 We did that last show Eric Schmidt in Frankfurt Deutschland 5150 John Meyer in Norco Norco, I don't know where that is Northern Colorado. No snorkel. No, I don't know in California says here 51 sir perfluous perfluous sir perfluous ah the octoroon in North Norfolk, Virginia 51 Lisa Piles, 51. Andrew, these are the $51 gimmick donations and we got one, two, for six. These were gimmicks? Andrew Gianettino, Gianettino, anyways, in the US somewhere, 51. Christina Henry in

2:36:43 Michoacah, Indiana, 51. Katherine Richardson, 51, in Albuquerque, New Mexico. And Forrest Martin, 5005. Now the following, this is a short list by the way, I want to mention. Hold on one second. So those were the special Earth Day donations? Yeah. Proving my point once again, no one cares about the earth. No, they don't. They hate it. Six donations in total for the Earth Day special. Screw you, Earth! Now they got $50 donors again. Just name and location. Julian Robbins in Aptos, Matthew Bryce, Adrian Mueller in Atascadero, Rodney Lillibridge in Lewiston, Idaho.

2:37:33 Daniel LaBoi in Bath, he's Sir Daniel LaBoi in Bath, Michigan. Sir Andrew Gusic in Greensboro, North Carolina. Lucas Deaton in Dayton. Lucas Deaton in Dayton. Deaton in Dayton. Kevin Silverman in Severn, Maryland. Jason Wright in Fort St. John, BC. Robert Case in Mill Springs, North Carolina. Keane Davidson in Brentwood, Tennessee. Douglas Fabrizio, parts unknown. Thomas Mc... I'm sorry, Sir Patrick Maycomb in New York City. And last but not least, Maria Cameron in Okotoks, Alberta. It's somewhere east of Spuzum, so it's in there somewhere.

2:38:27 I want to thank these folks for making this show possible. Short list, we might do better the next time, but it was Earth Day and you expected a shortfall. Hey, you bet where the earth you lose. What can I say? Never bet on the earth. She'll eat you right up. Thank you, producers. Thank you profusely for supporting the best podcast in the universe. You are producers, so you're doing your job and doing it to the best of your ability, because that's really all it is. Time, talent, treasure. If you make a donation, just make it meaningful to you. And we have lots of people who do that under $50. Many are on the subscriptions, which we have on our donation page where you can be contributing a weekly or a monthly or even a per show amount, which can be much smaller. It's a great base for us. We really appreciate that. To find out more, go here. Dvorak.org slash N-A. Let's give everybody a jobs karma just in case. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

CHAPTER 48 / 55 Discussion

Knighting of Sir Seat Sitter, Global Meetups

Sir Seat Sitter is officially knighted into the No Agenda Roundtable. The hosts also promote upcoming listener meetups in Denver, Jacksonville, Houston, and a "Three Mile Island" themed gathering in Pennsylvania.

knighthood· meetups· three mile island· north carolina· denver

2:39:23 Nika. Karma. Love me some birthdays on a Thursday. Phillip Cheerheart says happy birthday to his friend Chris P. Michael Parham, it was his birthday on the 20th. Will Sadler, happy birthday to his exquisite keeper Jill. She turns 33 and she is executive producer for today, social executive producer. Samantha Foggin, happy birthday to her smoking hot husband Peter from Tasmania, turns 54. Sir Patrick Coble says, Happy birthday loves you bunches Dame Sarah and Rodney Littlebridge. Happy birthday Kelly H whose birthday is on April 24th. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. We have one lone knighting today but he's already been addressed by his knight name so it is a seat sitter and I suggest

2:40:18 We get a single blade out for him, well we'll use two. I got the seat blade special for him, there you go. Very nice. So our seat sitter, seat sitter, seat sitter, come out to the podium seat sitter. You are joining a very exclusive club. The club is of the Noah, Jen, the Knights and Dames. They get here by supporting the show in the amount of $1,000 cumulative over any time you want. We're very, very appreciative of the support you have shown and I am very proud to pronounce the K- the Sir Seat Sitter Night of the No Agenda Roundtable for you by your very own request. Poopities and Scoopities! And we'll throw in some Wife- Wife- Wifeless and Waffles, Trophies and Tire Smoke, Kebab and Persian Wine, Harlots and Howl Doll, Geishas and Sake, Vodka and Vanilla, Bong Hits and Bourbon, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, Sparkling Cider and Escorts,

2:41:07 And I know what you really want. It's the mutton and mead. Everyone comes here for the mutton and mead. That is on it. Well, it's actually right in front of you. And if you go to noagendanation.com slash rings, Eric the shill will make sure that you get your coveted night ring along with your sealing wax and the official certification that it's all on the up and up. And thank you again for supporting the no agenda show. That's right, the No Agenda Meetup is where everybody gets together, hangs out, no triggering. You're all from Gitmo Nation. You're all going to be a little bit different, but you're going to love meeting children from other lands and it's running rampant. There are so many meetup schedules. It's so nice to see that people are finally getting out.

2:41:51 hanging out with each other, meeting, discussing, having a good time. Who knows what you're doing, but you're doing it and it's just beautiful to see. We have a meetup report from the Three Mile Island meetup, which is of course where people get radiated. Hey John and Adam, apparently if you have high enough levels of background radiation, it kills off all the viruses. So here on the banks of the Susquehanna River, we don't have to wear masks because it's science. Hey, look who's here. Mrs. Sir737 here. Josh. Tara. Hey, this is Sunny from Sunny Says So, Maricopa, Arizona. This is Jason. Dan. And Gwen. Steve, and it's like a party. Hey, this is Sir737 from the No Agenda Three Mile Island Evacuation Zone here at Crosswater. Great meetup. Thank you again for your courage.

2:42:41 Getting creative there, TMI. I like that. Very nice. Here's what's coming up. MeetupWise. We even have one today if you are in the Denver area. It's the Denver area creatively titled Meetup. 6.30 today at the Water's Edge Winery and Bistro. Tomorrow, Smiles. Welcome at the Jacksonville, Florida Bottlenose Brewery at 6 o'clock. Also on Friday, Oregon's Local 33 Spring Meetup at 5.30 at Willamette Park in West Lynn, Oregon. On Saturday, the Houston Fourth Wave Double Mutant Raging Surge Super Spreader Luncheon. That'll be at noon at the Rodeo Goat. Why not? Chicago Stranger Than Fiction, one o'clock at Reggie's, that's on Saturday. Also on Saturday, the Melbourne Monthly Meetup, two o'clock Aussie Eastern Time, Fancy Hank's Barbecue Restaurant. And the No Agenda Meetup in the Smokies at three o'clock, that'll be on Saturday at Curahee,

2:43:31 brewery in Franklin, North Carolina. Local 406 Bozeman meetup at the Tap Room that is on Saturday and I'll give you Sundays as well Myrtle Beach Sanitary Salt Air Meetup 333 p.m. at Grandstand Brewing as well as Santa Fe Do-Gooders at 430 Mountain Time Jeff Tohegard our night there will be hosting that at Santa Fe Brewing. For more go to knowagenthemeetups.com you can find it at Is there a place near you where the Gitmo Nation slaves are meeting up? If not, why don't you start one yourself? It's easy. Noagendameetups.com. It's like a party. Sometimes you wanna go, go hang out with all the nights and days. You wanna be where you want me, triggered or held to blame, where everybody feels the same. It's like a party.

CHAPTER 49 / 55 Discussion

ISO Selections, Joe Biden Mask Up

The hosts select new "In Search Of" (ISO) audio clips for future use, settling on a clip of President Biden saying "Mask up." They decide to place a moratorium on a profane clip from a female podcaster regarding "amygdala checks."

iso· joe biden· masks· amygdala· audio clips

2:44:29 See ISOs, ISOs, ISOs. You got any ISOs? I got a bunch. Oh, you got some ISOs. Oh, we like ISOs. Okay, we got, let's try this one. This is no answers. This is Ido, but it's no answers. I'm not hearing any good answers to these questions. A little long, but yeah. Mask up. Ooh, that might be a good one. Let's see. We all need to mask up. Is that the president? Yeah. We all need to mask up. That's pretty good. That's a good one. Wrong. Uh, wrong. It's just wrong. I like mask up. Let me see. I still have the Judge Janine. Paps blue ribbon. But I also have... Y'all need to go get your amygdala's fucking checked. Too bad for the F-bomb, but I think it's pretty funny. You know, I went to listen to that particular podcast. Somebody did recommend it. Uh, and, uh, yeah.

2:45:31 Well, she gets her she gets a nut. I think she gets enough ISOs from our show But that one is a gem we can call a moratorium on her after this one. It's what we do No, I like to go to her which still once a while I get kind of like it the thing is she's got a isn't she profane in there? Which is not unusual for her. Yeah that one again y'all need to go get your amygdala spiking checked. It's pretty good But I mean I said the promise I have with it is that there's no reason for her to use the word fucking I know I agree. It's just we've now played it twice. So will the third time hurt? Or I mean, uh, we can do mask up if you feel better about it play mask up one more time. Okay, hold on

2:46:22 Oops, that was the wrong one. Where is my mask? Here we go. Mask up, mask up. We all need to mask up. Now I like it because he has a bit of a drawl. We all need to mask up. Or we could do a double shot. We all need to mask up. Y'all need to go get your amygdala's fucking checked. I don't know. Your call. I'm fine either way. I'm going to keep her off the moratorium and use the Biden. Okay, so she's off the moratorium, but we're using mask up. That's good. It's good. I Mean she by the way, I've been making a collection of these women. They all sound just like her. Mm-hmm And all these different podcasters probably hundreds of them. Oh, yeah, and they all have this need like, you know Early podcasters had the same problem where they just need to cuss all the time. Yeah Howard Stern had that when he went on

CHAPTER 50 / 55 Discussion

Australia Vetoes China Belt and Road Deal

The Australian federal government has vetoed the state of Victoria's "Belt and Road" agreement with China, citing national interest. The Chinese embassy responded by calling the decision "unreasonable and provocative," warning of damage to bilateral relations.

australia· china· belt and road· victoria· huawei

2:47:16 Serious that was a real problem and they they were so not used to saying it and they just they were allowed to say f-words whenever they wanted and just became Unlistenable at a certain point they had to stop themselves It's kind of nutty but these women doing it is is even more interesting to me because it's like they're free And so they she's a podcaster a podcaster. I can say whatever I want. Yeah, hey something really spectacular happened in Australia as the federal government overrode the or vetoed the Victoria Belt and Road Agreement with China. Nice. Which is not a small thing. I mean that agreement includes Huawei and just all kinds of deals. No, Victoria was completely, they might as well separate themselves from the whole country. They were being run by the Chinese.

2:48:11 Correct, and you go on to the next question in the next round So here's a quick news story about it as the Chinese the Chinas are obviously threatening look I think the the government shouldn't assign those Originally, I don't think they added value to the state despite claims. There's no evidence to back it up and I think that the government has done the right thing. I'd make the point that this was legislation that was passed with bipartisan support. Albo was right behind this. He said he would never have signed such an agreement. The move is expected to further escalate tensions between Canberra and Beijing. The Foreign Minister Maurice Payne also cancelled two education deals, one struck with Iran in 2004.

2:48:55 and another with Syria in 1999. The Chinese embassy in Australia has branded the decision as unreasonable and provocative. It's released a statement saying it further shows that the Australian government has no sincerity in improving China-Australia relations. That's what the embassy said. It is bound to bring further damage to bilateral relations and will only end up hurting itself. Oh, oh, it sounds like a threat. Veiled threat for sure. Yeah, it's gonna hurt you. Well, they can always just close the gates around to Victoria. They've got everything boarded off anyway. Now you wrote another substack which are just so good

CHAPTER 51 / 55 Discussion

Tesla Model S Crash, Self-Driving Limitations

A fiery Tesla crash near Houston killed two men, leading to a debate over the car's Autopilot mode. John Dvorak argues that self-driving technology will always be flawed because software can never achieve 100% accuracy, similar to errors in OCR technology.

tesla· elon musk· autopilot· houston· optical character recognition

2:49:42 So I'll play this news story and then you can respond or not. This morning investigators looking for answers into what caused this fiery crash near Houston. Video capturing what's left of a Tesla Model S after it slammed into a tree killing the two men inside. The car's lithium-ion battery reigniting over and over again. Firefighters battling the flames for more than four hours using 30,000 gallons of water before the fire put itself out. So a couple things about the story. The first one is that Elon Musk denied that the car was on autopilot self-drive mode which never gives anyone any pause about how much they know about you and your and your driving and you really trust one company with your car.

2:50:38 to be tracking you and everything you're doing, every input, every control, every button, everything is logged and tracked. Yeah, and none of that, but apparently in real, and I said the word, sorry, in real time. Yes. So there's some guy, look at this guy, he's on autopilot, let's ram him into a tree. Seems to me you could do that. You could ram a person into a tree. Right, now I don't think this happened. This is just proof. I don't think it happened either, but I think it could. The column I wrote was about, I think, I've had mixed feelings about self-driving cars since the beginning and I liked the idea at first and then I now don't like it so much. And one of the reasons I put in this column was that they have never gotten optical character recognition

2:51:25 handwriting recognition or voice recognition, correct. It's always off by, there's always something wrong. It's like it maybe gets a 99% correct, but the 1% is a lot. So when you look at a document that you've OCRed and you look in there and it's a bunch of, 1%, which is 1% is a lot. That means for every 100 words, there's a blatant error. So you're just kind of, this is horrible mistakes. You can't do that with self-driving cars, which is a similar kind of technology where it has to look at the road. It's 98% effective, just like the COVID vaccine.

2:52:02 It's just seems like they're never gonna get to, because they can't. You can't, in certain software situations, anyone, software knows this, at some point you can never, that's why you have to do bug fixes all the time. You can't get to the point of 100%, like the last 1% takes 99% of the time, they say stuff like that. And so I think these cars are always gonna be dangerous. Well, wait a minute, John. A human, humans can, are very good at driving. And the machine will do better. Hey, who's this guy? He's new. I like him. He's the guy. I like that guy. That's the self-driving car guy. I'll be back, man. Well, I don't know. I mean, obviously, I'm with you. I don't think this is going to work. We've seen too much.

CHAPTER 52 / 55 Discussion

Digital Dollar, China Electronic Currency

Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell confirmed the US is working on a digital dollar, citing the need to maintain the dollar's status as a reserve currency. Meanwhile, reports from Beijing indicate that even homeless individuals in China now use QR codes for electronic alms as cash disappears.

jerome powell· federal reserve· digital dollar· china· qr code

2:53:02 tinkering going on and the ultimate problem will be who do we kill, the driver or the pedestrian? That's always the dilemma. Like, where are the decisions going to be made for that? Let's say they get it to 100%. You're still gonna have to deal with flawed humans and then someone crosses, but there's only two choices and that could be calculated in a split second. Which path do we go down? Kill the occupant, kill the pedestrian? Yeah, you'd kill the pedestrian. You want to save the occupant, he's a customer. Just that simple. I got some feedback from Professor JJ who's in Beijing on two things we discussed regarding China. Just to roll back to that. There are to date in nowhere in China, but certainly not in Beijing, vaccine passports

2:53:50 People show a green code on their phone or you can attest that you have not been around anyone who is sick. He says we can fly within China without getting a vaccine or presenting the results of a screening for antibodies or virus or any type of swab. That's interesting. And two, and this is the one that is most important, all money in China is electronic. Cash is pretty much gone. Today, a homeless guy asked me for money when I told him, in Mandarin, that I only had a phone. The homeless guy pulled out a laminated card with the QR code. That's been the dream. That's the dream! Well, the Chinese have managed to solve that issue. Yeah, so cash is gone. And once the government manages your cash,

2:54:45 Yeah, then it's kind of end of story. Take over. Well, take your money away. And that's why it is still interesting, although you don't believe it is never going to happen. It will be crazy. The Federal Reserve Chairman Powell confirmed once again that the United States is working on a digital dollar. They are working very hard. It's incredibly important. They may not be the first to the party, but they are doing it. solving the technology problems and to consulting very broadly with the public and very transparently with all interested constituencies as to whether we should do this. I would also say we are the world's reserve currency and we have a responsibility to get this right. We don't need to be the first, we need to get it right. But this is something we're investing time and labor

2:55:58 Right across the Federal Reserve System, you may know that the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston has a partnership with MIT looking at one particular thing. We're doing research here at the board. It does hold out the prospect of the things that you mentioned very positively. It could help with financial inclusion as well. At the same time, you want to avoid creating things that might be destabilizing or that might draw funds away from the banking system. We have a banking system which intermediates between savers and borrowers. You know, we want to be careful about what the implications are of what we do. So very high priority project for us. They've seen China. It's great. Give everybody digital money. We control them. Perfect. Yeah. Well, China is more into that than we are. OK, well, I just can't deny the chairman of the Federal Reserve Board saying that this is a project. It's fine. We're going to resist.

CHAPTER 53 / 55 Discussion

Apple Credit for Minors, Financial Enslavement

Apple's new initiative to allow 13-year-olds to build credit through family sharing is criticized as a way to "enslave" children into the banking system. The hosts argue this is a precursor to a wider rollout of digital wallets and Universal Basic Income.

apple card· credit score· minors· banking· universal basic income

2:53:50 People show a green code on their phone or you can attest that you have not been around anyone who is sick. He says we can fly within China without getting a vaccine or presenting the results of a screening for antibodies or virus or any type of swab. That's interesting. And two, and this is the one that is most important, all money in China is electronic. Cash is pretty much gone. Today, a homeless guy asked me for money when I told him, in Mandarin, that I only had a phone. The homeless guy pulled out a laminated card with the QR code. That's been the dream. That's the dream! Well, the Chinese have managed to solve that issue. Yeah, so cash is gone. And once the government manages your cash,

2:54:45 Yeah, then it's kind of end of story. Take over. Well, take your money away. And that's why it is still interesting, although you don't believe it is never going to happen. It will be crazy. The Federal Reserve Chairman Powell confirmed once again that the United States is working on a digital dollar. They are working very hard. It's incredibly important. They may not be the first to the party, but they are doing it. solving the technology problems and to consulting very broadly with the public and very transparently with all interested constituencies as to whether we should do this. I would also say we are the world's reserve currency and we have a responsibility to get this right. We don't need to be the first, we need to get it right. But this is something we're investing time and labor

2:55:58 Right across the Federal Reserve System, you may know that the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston has a partnership with MIT looking at one particular thing. We're doing research here at the board. It does hold out the prospect of the things that you mentioned very positively. It could help with financial inclusion as well. At the same time, you want to avoid creating things that might be destabilizing or that might draw funds away from the banking system. We have a banking system which intermediates between savers and borrowers. You know, we want to be careful about what the implications are of what we do. So very high priority project for us. They've seen China. It's great. Give everybody digital money. We control them. Perfect. Yeah. Well, China is more into that than we are. OK, well, I just can't deny the chairman of the Federal Reserve Board saying that this is a project. It's fine. We're going to resist.

2:56:56 We're, for one thing, we're a country that uses a lot, probably more than any place else in the world, a lot of illegal substances. And I would say cocaine would be the number one on that list. And there's no way they're going to go to a digital currency overall without a lot of cash because these guys will be out of business, the guys who do the buying and selling, both of them. And the buyers don't like the idea of being tracked and those sellers don't like the idea of being tracked. And they all, you know, kind of funnel the money probably through a lot of casinos and other money laundering operations. You can't launder money that's going to be done the way. I mean, it does solve a lot of problems in terms of crime and all these other things. And I'm sure the Chinese are taking advantage of it. But I don't think our people are going to, we're not going to.

2:57:43 It could happen maybe 50 years from now, but I think it'd be at least that long. All right, allow me to respond. One, my drug dealer, although I do not purchase cocaine, and I don't know if he even deals in that, he takes Venmo. So I do have a phone specifically just for Venmo. So there seems to be no hesitancy in that regard from the drug dealers. And I find it hard to believe that you say we are going to resist when at the same time you say that people are so stupid they're all lining up to get the vaccine and will not stop. You can't have stupid people one way or the other. You either have stupid people, you don't have stupid people. And I think that this will be marketed. There's going to be no resistance.

2:58:28 This means no resistance. People think it's great, especially when they start getting the universal basic income right there in their little digital dollar wallet because that's how you hook them in. It makes sense that the basic universal basic income, which is also a ways away, would be a good hook. I'm not going to argue that. Well, California is already starting with a thousand dollars a month for the poor. Yeah, for the, for the, oh not only just the poor but only certain races. White, white's not, not welcome. Right! That's right, blacks as single mothers I think is the, is the first group. Okay. Yeah. So, and you know what? That's where, yeah, that's where the resistance is gonna come from. I fear for this. That, that is the ultimate. And, and by the way, back to Apple. Holy crap!

2:59:22 Do these guys want to be your bank so bad they're willing to enslave your children into this credit card business of theirs? Unbelievable. What the heck is that? So you can put a 13 year old on your credit card and then they can build up credit, which by the way is not going to be official credit from the credit bureau. It's going to be the Apple credit like Credit Karma. Yeah, fake. Fake credit. My mind was boggled by that. I don't expect to hear anyone else about it, but damn. We talked about on the Horowitz show. Yeah, and I bet your mind must have been boggled. We both found it to be abhorrent. Yeah, I don't understand how they can even do that. How can you put, you can't even get a Facebook page until you're 16. And children are not, they can't sign contracts. Especially 13 year olds. You can't go buy a car. So, I don't know.

CHAPTER 54 / 55 Discussion

AOC Climate Justice, Earth Day Co-option

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez linked the "climate crisis" to racial injustice and indigenous rights in a recent speech. The hosts argue that Earth Day has been co-opted from its original environmental awareness roots into a catch-all political vehicle for social justice.

alexandria ocasio-cortez· climate change· earth day· racial justice· indigenous rights

3:00:20 So it looks like we're going to do this, we wrap this show today. Yes. I have one last clip and we are going to put off the second half of show, I guess, which was where everyone's looking forward to you and the theremin. But you know what? You want me to do it? I completely forgot. No, no, no. I want to do it on Sunday because we're going to talk about the dead cows. OK, hold on. All right. He blew something out and stopped. Yeah, I stopped it. Dead cows, dead cows. All right. Yeah, apparently, apparently I said it the second time. No, no, no, you can't talk about it. We'll talk about it on Sunday show. Okay, well, dead cows and UFOs. My face says we didn't talk about climate change today. I do have one climate change clip. Even though it's Earth Day, I do have an Earth Day report that I didn't play.

3:01:15 Actually, it's only a minute. Can I play two clips here at the end? You can do whatever you want, John, as long as I don't do second half of stuff. Let's do an Earth Day report on CBS and I want to ask you a question. at the end of this clip, I'll ask you in advance, what does this report have to do with Earth Day? Earth Day is next Thursday but starting tonight CBS News will be reporting on how climate change is affecting us all and putting our planet in peril. Our Eye on Earth series will appear on all CBS broadcasts and platforms. We begin with Lilia Luciano and a breaking point in a California beach battle.

3:01:51 Nestled along California's central coast is Oceano Dunes, eight miles of beautiful beach. But the scenic stretch of sand has gone from playground to battleground. More than a million off-roaders a year visit the only state park in California where vehicles can drive on the beach, pitting recreation against conservation. Why is it important to be able to bring vehicles onto the sand? It's a magical, unique experience. The amount of traffic the noise pollution, the distraction. It's just it's too much. Battle lines drawn in the sand by off-roaders, the town of Oceano, two state agencies and conservationists fighting to protect endangered species, including the Western Snowy Plover and California's least turn. Now, what does this have to do with climate change or Earth Day? Well, Earth Day was never about climate change.

3:02:46 That's what's that's what's bothering me. And if you look at the Wikipedia entry, it still says Earth Day is a day that is supposed to inspire more awareness and appreciation for the Earth's natural environment. It takes place each year on April 22nd and now takes place in more than 193 countries around the world. During Earth Day, the world encourages everyone to turn off all unwanted lights. That's it. That's it. It was never about climate change. It was never about riding vehicles on the beach and killing some stupid animals. This has been... The earth has been hijacked. Been co-opted as we like to call it. Co-opted. That's the term. Co-opted. Now, okay, so now here's one. Here's an interesting co-option. This is now climate change has become a political football

3:03:40 based on racism. We saw this coming. Yeah, of course. Here we go with Sandy Cortez. AOC is going to bring in her idiotic climate change comments. The climate crisis is a crisis born of injustice and it is a crisis born of the pursuit of profit at any and all human and ecological costs. That's right. Which means that we must recognize in legislation that the trampling of indigenous rights is a cause of climate change. The trampling of racial justice is a cause of climate change because we are allowing people and we are allowing ourselves to make sure, we are allowing folks to deny ourselves human rights and deny people the right to health care, the right to housing and education. That's right. All in it. 37 seconds.

CHAPTER 55 / 55 Discussion

Show Outro, Maxine Waters Remix

The program concludes with a musical remix of Maxine Waters telling Jim Jordan to "shut your mouth" and calling opponents "scumbags." The hosts sign off from Austin and Silicon Valley, reminding listeners to support the show via the Value for Value model.

maxine waters· jim jordan· shut your mouth· scumbags· value for value

3:04:36 I think she got it all in there. She didn't get anything. It was a gem. Yeah, she didn't get any misogyny in there, but I'll take it. Very good. Re-elect AOC. Shoot. Make her senator. Oh, that's gotta happen. Yeah. I hope. We need the material. Hey, everybody! That is your deconstruction for today. We will return and do it all over again on Sunday, except with new stuff from the media. They never disappoint. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. But it does depend on you producing the show. We need your time, your talent, your treasure, your brainpower, your input, your expertise. You know how to get a hold of us.

3:05:16 And coming to you from Opportunity Zone 33, while we're still here, in the capital of the drone star state, Austin, Texas, FEMA Region No. 6 on all governmental maps, in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak. And coming up, end of show, we've got Jesse Coy Nelson, Tom Starkweather, and a classic Roolfie, after this show on no agenda. Stream.com we have Sir Gene Speaks with an exclusive interview with Tina Curry, the Keeper. Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA until Sunday. Adios, semaphores! And such.

3:06:04 This is a bunch of scumbags scumbags scumbags Reclaiming my time What he failed to tell you was when you're on my time I can reclaim it I said he left that out. So I'm reclaiming my time, please You need to respect the chair and shut your mouth Congresswoman Maxine Waters ending the tense exchange telling Republican Jim Jordan to shut his mouth. We're going to get a verdict that says guilty, guilty, guilty. And if we don't, we cannot go away. We've got to get more confrontational. We've got to make sure that they know that we mean business.

3:06:47 This is a bunch of scumbags, scumbags, scumbags. And this is not the first time Maxine Waters did this. She's been doing this since the LA riots in the early 90s. Reclaiming my time, reclaiming my time. I will go and take Trump out tonight. Nobody believes that a 79-year-old grandmother who is a congresswoman and who has been in Congress and in politics for all of these years talking about doing any harm.

3:07:31 Wow! You need to shut your mouth! Man, that's out there, Max. I'm glad she's there, because she's nuts. This is a bunch of scumbags. Scumbags. Scumbags. There's one case, then two, three, four, and then when they got to six, they say, we really need to pause. It almost, it almost defeats the incentive to get the vaccination. It shouldn't, but it can. Why does a vaccinated person have to wear a mask? You know, when you're in the middle of a hot spot, the best thing to do is to try and contain it. This is an interesting one. If you're vaccinated, is it safe to start getting manicures and pedicures at indoor salons? Because we have two pandemics going on right now. There's a pandemic of ignorance in this country, and that is only allowed to fly because we also have a pandemic of cowardice in this country. Is that an effective way to beat back a hot spot?

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3:09:07 Hey, how ya doin'? Hey, do you remember Adam Curry from MTV? The guy with the hair? Yeah! He's nuts! I'm the last person they see before they die. That's right, look at me. I'm the Angel of Death. I know! Keep it up! Wow, this show man. This is always the best show in the universe, no doubt about it. It truly is. You know what I mean? You've been in enough meetings? Say, excuse me, smells like weed. Because it was festering and now it's popped. Wow. Yeah, that's kind of pathetic. Hilarious numbers. You are loved. You are loved. Take that M from love.

3:09:52 Take a hook, line, and sink her by this bullshit. Take a hook, line, and sink her by this bullshit. Take a hook, line, and sink her by this bullshit. I got but one. Just float in the air, yay! And sketch it on fire, who cares? Yeah, we'll just make it rain, you know. 69, 69. Close your mouth, everybody. So it's not a very efficient system and it doesn't seem to- Sounds like a crock of crap to me. That 21 year old pimp. That 21 year old pimp. Transphobe, homophobe, black phobe, red phobe, yellow phobe. Phobe, phobe, phobe, phobe. Transphobe, homophobe, black phobe, red phobe, yellow phobe. Phobe, phobe, phobe, transphobe, homophobe, black phobe, red phobe, yellow phobe.

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