Unionize Everything

00:01 I'm so happy that we're gonna kill tens of thousands of us! Here's my water, Mr. TSA! Please take my water... Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's September 10th 2009 time for your Gitmo Nation audio publication episode 129 This is no agenda Coming to you from the Crackpot Command Center located in the minimum security containment cell under actual threat of eminent domain In San Francisco The United Republic of California Gitmo nation west I'm Adam Curry. And from what appears to be a 99 degree weather day here in northern Silicon Valley, I am John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Howzuh? Yeah good to be back John. Supposed to be hot today. It's nice though...I like it. Yeah it's gonna hit 80 in the city

00:53 It's perfect. I mean, that's why you live here right? For the weather! For the summer that happens anytime but summer Yeah any time but July and actually July wasn't even that bad No this year wasn't bad i've seen worse it was still foggy during the fireworks as usual and uh But it wasn't as bad as some of the Julys August is pretty flaky Well I wasn't here for most of august so didn't bother me yeah well would have So you're back, you're settled in. You got your machine hooked up and ready to go already? And it must have been back in time to see the Obama speech Well yes of course! Actually I'd like to mention first of all that if I had not known better... ...I would've said that I picked a little bit of swine flu on the flight. It may be just a combination of jet lag and some other stuff but I was running a fever

01:50 The day before yesterday. They let you into the country? Oh yeah, by the way if you're running a fever don't let on Don't be like wheezing and coughing because KLM definitely will kick you off the flight that's documented they've done that a couple of times So yeah but just really a fever stomach a little bit upset didn't you think I was a bit out-of-sorts when we had that lunch the other day When I was a yeah, no you've been out of sorts for the last couple days. Yeah Uh when i was hitting up the waitress in fact when you uh? Yeah You were hitting up to waitress and uh your and when you're coming in you're kind of staggering exactly I don't have a an oral or rectal thermometer But I was definitely running a fever And you know and so I feel much better today. I feel really

02:38 All kinds of dust here. I haven't been around for too long. Probably just picked up some bug on the plane, it's easy to get sick on these planes. Yeah that's it! The funny thing is you know for people who don't travel a lot when you all of sudden get into situation where your traveling A LOT I think there must be a bunch of airborne or airplane diseases that are just common to people who travel because what happens is when you first start traveling, you're sick all the time. Every time we go anywhere it's like ugh! And it's usually ear nose and throat? Yeah, it's usually some minor thing. It's like a version of the cold

03:15 And then after about, I don't know six months a year or couple years of doing that you don't get sick at all. Yeah, you kind of get used to it but now this is an interesting point John because we all know that when you have right now in these harrowing times very troubling with the H1N1 virus ready to kill us all It was very interesting to me to see how incredibly irresponsible irresponsible i tell you our congress was yesterday all as i was watching uh... like says i've flipped back and forth that was watching c-span before the at the main event and of course when you when you really watch what's going on um... before the president started speaking it is just like the oscars during the commercial breaks everyone schmoozing everyone's not just talking but hugging in kissing and and how can we allow our president

04:09 our president to kiss everybody in the room is this not a petri dish? Including the men, I mean what's that all about. It's a petri dish for swine flu and you can't tell me that out of that entire room of representatives and invited guests because there were a lot of those as well that not one person can possibly have the swine flu. I mean, the obvious answer is yes of course someone has it who's there and why do they allow this? And by the way, I love HD uh... and i have never really seen this type of assembly in high definition when i see all the smirking inside just a smirk but how about that goal baby how bout the designer threads i mean there is this these people are dressed up and it i'm telling you it's just like the oscars and there is some kind of unwritten rule apparently about which women are allowed to wear red because if your wearing red then you were really important

05:09 I wonder about that, whether there's a rule or whether they just do it. Because the red...the people wearing red, the women and by the way these same women would probably never have worn red when they were in high school. No certainly not after Labor Day Yeah, exactly. And they I mean they just wouldn't have and oh yeah it's red! I mean because it's a slutty color... But they wear them because there is a power color in Washington apparently or something or so way you can be seen in the crowd Oh like, can you find so-and-so? Oh yes she's over there with a bright red dress Did you see Sheila Jackson from Texas She was wearing like a red with a big yellow thing wrapped around her head You know It was amazing this this Like

05:53 Crap paper. Well, so the ones that the red powered chicks of course Nancy Pelosi Here comes Hillary yeah, you know she had this she had the pantsuit the red pantsuit I couldn't tell I didn't see the bottom but How could you miss her bottom dude? definitely with more fabric let's say than Pelosi and then Sibelius came. Oh my god she was completely...and she was wearing jewelry John? Her earrings were so massive her earlobes were stretched down to her shoulders So anyway I thought it was disgusting

06:35 Me too and the whole show because it is really a show first of all it started like 15 minutes late. What's up? Well, what would which reminds me play the Dennis Miller thing right do that clip right there hold on a second here we go Dennis Miller this is from his appearance on or on O'Reilly I don't know much about birth and babies, but i do know this when the six o'clock speech on how government's gonna tighten up health care starts at 6 15 exactly. I think that says it all baby this is beautiful karaoke So he's absolutely right, but what got me even more is so what happens is first And this was about three minutes to the top of the hour Speaker of the house Pelosi reads all wait wait wait play it play the Pelosi clip in the background as you talk Hold on. Where is it?

07:31 What's the Pelosi clip? I don't have the Pelosi clip. Read the clip names. Uh, debt stinks escorts... Escorts! The joint shall come to order Right, this is three minutes before the top of the hour. ...members of the committee on part of the house to escort the president of United States into the chamber... The gentleman from Maryland Mr Hoyer... So she reads off this entire list of names and so these people who are already in the chamber now have to go out through the lobby doors and then they'll come back in again

08:06 uh... in apparently in front of the president who by the way stood in the doorway for at least three minutes before he was announced by two dudes Did you see that? There's like two dudes now. It's not just one guy, it's like... One guy says Ladies and gentlemen of the house And then the other guy says The president of the United States Yeah! And he stands there Like a boxer You know kind of in the shadows Because he is very tall So you know the top of his head was kind of shadowed off I'm surprised they weren't playing music Exactly! Rocky Or dun da da da

08:44 I like the idea of a no-nonsense president who Obama certainly pertains to be. You know, wouldn't you just like come in and say hey right on let's rock. Let's go I got a message for you. I've got something to say boom let's get right to it no instead we're steeped in these ridiculous traditions so after the escorts go out then its ladies and gentlemen the presidents cabinet that's when hillary and timmy geithner and sibelius and all the other red suited women come in and then there is applause all the time and then there is applause, applause. And then the president comes in and he hugs everybody. I'm telling you! And then he gets up behind his teleprompter spot

09:37 and then there's more thank you, thank you. And then we have Pelosi who has to say it is my high privilege and distinct honor to present to you the President of the United States... By the way why doesn't anyone say the President of the United States of America? Why is only the president of the United States? Is their reason for that? I never heard it. I don't know. I never thought about it. She still chatting in the background on that another thing that bothers me to no end she's always saying something She's always like, she got these half one-liners. And she'll say it to Biden and I wish i could lip read although she doesn't have a lot of lips to read you know because there is saying something continuously this little side comments its just as irritating when Letterman or Leno or O'Brien has a guest and then okay we're gonna go to commercial in the lean over each other and they say something

10:32 here because the mics are closed that annoyance that really get you know what i agree with them and then actually letterman doesn't want to come out easy whispers something to have like a little bit did with hillary yes only two things he kissed her and then said something she laughed in the other joke joke And of course the mics are never on down there. Yeah, if you ever watch the old Larry Sanders show Yes, which was that? You know they would actually do it all about that. Yeah a conversation There would be all kinds of weird stuff That was the best part absolutely Absolutely so yeah So that's tough really and watching a lot of it in high definition Which means I did have to switch between C-SPAN which is not high def

11:14 And I think I switched over to MSNBC which had a lot of the down on the floor camera feeds they were using. Except they had the annoying people talking over it so you couldn't hear anything. Well, I actually was going to watch CNN but then I decided well let's go mainstream so I watched it on CBS. I have a clip there by the way showing you this shallowness of CBS The Katie Couric clip which is during the beginning of just before the speech began if you play that to see how devoted he is to the issue, but he wants conservative Democrats and Republicans to see that he is leaving the door open for a possible compromise. Another big issue that has yet to be settled... Sorry go ahead Katie I was just going to say we should mention that Mrs Obama is standing beside Vicki Kennedy of course uh the widow of Senator Ted Kennedy who's

12:02 Presence is so sorely missed during this health care debate. Go ahead, Chip I'm sorry. It certainly isn't she's also with a group of people That's just like E! Entertainment when they do the Oscars Yes that's the kind of color commentary he does when there's an award show and it's just like you know enough already this was billed as serious business the president is addressing the Congress, addressing the nation. I think we could do just a little less of the show around it just get down to business and he didn't need 50 minutes to do this entire thing he could have cut it down significantly my personal feeling although yeah no it was too long way too long although

12:48 basically representing brand obama i think he did a very good job he'd be of course you can shoot holes in every single bit of the speech and i'm sure will do some of that during today's no agenda But in general if I was just sitting there and I was just you know, Just Joe Schmo kind of concerned about all the things. I've heard and i'm not going to town hall meetings And i'm not you know pissed off? I just kind of want to get on with it and now i'm looking at my health care bill I would probably say yeah alright guy seems to be on track. I think it was a reasonable A reasonable little story he had I thought it was good. I mean for it was an obama speech

13:26 It was well done. I think some of the points he made were outstanding, and I think he did it well But you know, when you analyze it after the fact is like everything else I realize that Obama's one of those guys. He's reminding me about guys like Matt Millen who was the general manager of the Detroit Lions and he also reminds me that...I've talked about this before we had a publisher at PC Magazine for years in one other magazines who magazine was always failing to perform but this guy was the only guy it was never fired so I go on and visit with him because they would fire people if they were performing but this guy was in forever

14:02 So I go in and meet with the guy, and I walked out of there. I swear to God thinking it was not his fault! It was great yeah the guys cool but then you go home and went wait a minute... Wait a minute this guy has buffaloed me! And so uh exactly Obama apparently is one of those types of people he has the ability to buffalo in audience and because he's a smooth talker. Let's face it, he is a smooth talker. Yeah totally but when you start analyzing the speech or somebody else does who just hates him usually there's always someone that won't listen to any of it then they started deconstructing if you realize that in fact yeah He didn't say this In fact there was a guy sitting in the audience which nobody commented on even though they comment on The guy who always introduces the bill at every session

14:49 No, the guy who's... no I don't know who this was. They only focused on him for a minute on one of the stations and then saw it twice and then saw it in a brief... The guy had a sign in his lap that said what bill? I didn't see that. That's great! Yeah, and what it meant of course was what bill is Obama talking about? Is he talking about the Senate bill, the bill out of the Finance Committee, the bill in the House... And nobody brought it up that he's just generalizing. Shouldn't technically have been which bill instead of what bill? I think it said WHAT bill. But technically should've been WHICH bill. That would've made more sense

15:27 You know, we can go through a couple of these things but I realized after... A couple of people sent me this article from the Wall Street Journal that we've really been focusing on the wrong things. Of course, the focus has been on death panels, the focus has been on... Oh come on John! Basically, killing grandma. All of that has really been a distraction and it kind of hit me this morning after reading this article in the Wall Street Journal by Mark Mix

16:09 And the title of it is, read the union health care label subtitle get ready for Detroit style labor relations in our hospitals. And you and I both know as we discussed many times That President Obama of course, you know the way elections in America work and this is no secret. You get huge donations from special or just interest groups such as Wall Street. President Obama received more money than anyone from Wall Street while he basically took care of them with all the bailouts that was done, that's been repaid and he got huge support and money from the unions

16:45 And so now all of a sudden it's starting to click in my head, you know. So he did do a little bit of stuff for Detroit bailing out the or more less bailing out the auto industry but really the unions and this is something I need your expertise on understand that The unions of course in my mind although I'm actually a member of a couple of unions are really about power at the end of the day And from what I understand from this op-ed and there are a couple of other articles that we probably should discuss to go along with it. What a lot of the healthcare bill, if were talking about HR 3200 which was you know I think the one that everyone is usually analyzing and talking about section 225A grants Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius

17:29 tremendous discretionary authority to regulate health care workers under the public health insurance option. Monopoly bargaining and compulsory union dues may quickly become a required standard resulting in potentially hundreds of thousands of doctors and nurses across the country being forced into unions." So now shit is starting to click in my head. I'm like, oh of course this is why the SEIU was at all these rallies because the idea is to grow the unions by forcing medical personnel into them Well that's an interesting idea and if you look at some other data Let's see

18:12 That makes sense, because that's why the SEIU is so gung-ho for this bill. Because that's the union that would benefit most and it's a union directly associated with ACORN. Exactly! So you've got all of these big labor I guess we talk about Big Pharma, but big labor is probably just as evil as big pharma in my personal opinion And of course this is all about union dues. I'm a member of AFTRA, I am a member of SAG and really there's only two reasons that you're a member of these unions. One, you can't get a gig in mainstream radio television or film if your not a member of the union

18:54 It's a catch-22 for SAG, the Screen Actors Guild because you can't get into SAG unless you have a speaking role. But you can't get a speaking role unless your are a SAG member so basically have to be nominated by the production company which is why it's very hard to get a gig in film because there is this kind of catch 22 scenario Then after that we have the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists You pay it's you can get into that no problem. You pay your dues and what do you get for in return is a standardized contract so you have the You know the set fee for an hour of radio or an appearance on television That's really broken down into into pretty minute detail And back in the 80s when I really relied on it, you got health care which was not to be underestimated

19:46 But when you look at mainstream radio, television and film highly unionized. You've got to ask yourself is it good or does it suck? So I think personally it all sucks. Television sucks, radio generally sucks, you know film as... It pretty much sucks and this is the result of, I think it being unionized. There's huge control over who was in it what they do and you basically just pay these dues all the time and they can tell you when to not show up for work and a strike Yeah so what your point?

20:23 Well, I guess the question is although totally legal under the Constitution to unionize. Is unionization a good thing? Do we want big unions in the United States do we want our entire health care industry to be Unionized what are the pros and cons well? I don't like the idea of the healthcare system being that unionized because obviously you can then you put the screws to people I mean anything healthcare is expensive now I mean, it could really go up. It's not going to go down the unions are gonna help people save money. I'm just fascinated by...I think unions had their place in time and they became...I wouldn't say they're corrupt organizations because I've been in various unions that are actually quite useful but generally speaking I think they're full of crap! They promise stuff that they don't deliver then they throw their weight around and the guys who run the unions or spending too much money, the dues are too high for what you get

21:20 I mean, you know. Yeah once in a while somebody goes to this shop steward and gets some justice because his boss is a jerk which is the reason why these people join unions because you have a bunch of management schmucks that just make your life miserable so what's the point? But for the most part these things should be taking care of some other way. But unions are with us and that's that, but now you mentioned the unions involved this explains the SEIU being sold for this thing and you're right I think there is a whole things scammed in here. That's very interesting idea you got me on that one well there's a couple more pieces to this

21:59 piece of legislation that has been passed by the house but has been stuck in the senate for a while which is being told me not to send by the way none of this unionization stuff it's discussed anywhere and on cnbc msnbc fox news or anything so this is part of what I love about this show you know this was pointed out by our listeners slash producers and so now we're catching on hold on a second let's look into this there something that has been lingering needing to pass and is still in committee or discussion, or God knows how it works known as the EFCA. Have you heard of this John? The Employee Free Choice Act Oh yeah! No this right... This is the one where they want to eliminate a secret ballot Right so they're calling at the card check bill So that's the idea... Yeah this is free choice It's like if you have a guy coming up to your house knocks on your door And he says do you wanna join the union

22:53 And he said, well I'm going to vote on it when the ballot comes around. No you can vote right now! Yeah you gotta tell me right now in front of the entire class is basically what it is. So and by the way...I'm gonna slip it in early this is exactly exactly what is described in Atlas Shrugged. Oh please!! I'm gonna put this link up I gotta sell some of these books This is exactly what is described where You no longer have the secret ballot. You have to stand up in front of all your co-workers and peers, and basically say I disagree which is the shittiest situation to be in so they want to eliminate the whole idea of a secret ballot but there's a lot more going on here as part of this...I love the name Employee Free Choice Act As part of this if you're an employer, and I am an employer in the state of California

23:44 You will not be able to say or do certain things under penalty of $20,000 to your employees. And I've run small companies, bigger companies. So right now anything under 500 employees from what I understand is considered a small business and then either medium or large business with 700 employees What would you call Vivek Kundra's company then that he had no employees? I would call that a hobby. It is just not a good idea to have employees decide how you're going to run your company, it is just not!

24:33 And that's essentially what it comes down to. Worse, I think with the power that is being given to government now to rule over some of these union rules i.e., what Sebelius will be able to do is basically the government being allowed to run your business That's the simple breakdown of what it comes down to and so now I'm saying whoa wait a minute This isn't really about health care, it's not really about insurance companies. It is about total takeover of all business! So it's not socialism, its fascism. Yeah, corporatism. Corporatism yeah...fascism and same thing. Here's an example of how well unionization works from the Federal Times

25:30 We have discussed that the US Postal Service is in dire straits, they have a deficit of $7 billion dollars. They've gone to Congress They've said, oh we got to cut down mail delivery to five days a week. So of course the postal service is unionized. Well it turns out that they have thousands and thousands of employees who they have no work for because their mail delivery is down by 12-15%. What they're literally doing... this is great article and it'll be in the show notes at NoAgendaShow.com They literally put the employees into break rooms, 12 foot by 8 foot closets which the postal service calls resource rooms. The postal worker employees call it holding pens or blue rooms. They literally sit there for eight hours a day doing nothing

26:25 because they can't be fired, they can't be laid off due to the unionization. So they just... and also I believe Obama and the Obama administration would never want these numbers to flow into the joblessness claims so essentially They're just sitting there doing nothing literally thousands of employees because there is no work for them meanwhile The taxpayers being asked to bail them out Because they have a deficit because they have all these employees doing nothing it makes no sense to me Interesting. Okay, so that is where unionization will lead to I believe because of course we'll have all kinds of...I don't think we'll have doctors and nurses sitting around with nothing to do but if this is the result... It could happen Well it could but if this is the result

27:15 where the US Postal Service is asking for a bailout but at the same time they have thousands of people who really just aren't working literally and this is crazy that they're not allowed to do anything in these break rooms because they technically are work so they're not allowed to do anything, they just sit there. This is going make these people crazy! They gonna go home and kill somebody or go postal totally So let's get back to the speech. A couple things that I wanted to...I have a bunch of notes, there is no reason why I'm going to do that. Before you do that lets just make sure people know exactly what this program is all about here's what we do Our formula is this We go out and hit people in the mouth

28:02 Alright, Johnny. Let's hit someone in the mouth. Okay so I thought that even though yeah I don't think a lot of people picked up on it but i was watching Obama's presentation and his prompter use he was flubbing oh he flubbed a lot of lines he repeated several lines? Yeah I think he was nervous I think it was nervous. I think also the speech was probably changed multiple times because that's usually the kind of mistakes he was making like rereading a line or saying, I will instead of I would there wasn't like you will or you would thing in there. See more like a formatting issue where your, because you read through speech that's going to be on the teleprompter and the best way of course is actually read I'm sure he has a teleprompter in the Oval Office cause the best way to do it is actually read it cause then you get kind used to this spacing on the teleprompter. Yeah! I believe that some other spacing changed so when he was expecting new line to start maybe wasn't there or already there... It was clearly

29:05 for me it was a part nervousness and by the way who wouldn't be nervous uh... that's is it was like a huge gig dude yeah he's done it before you look less uh... nervous before yeah i think there were a lot of changes over the past uh... probably past twenty four hours now so i noticed that wrangled at began the audience was glowering constantly about something right after i couldn't figure out what that was all about also but Richard Wrangles that guy has a way, he kind of talks like this. I don't know who that is Okay well you would when you saw him He's a troublemaker and then the up-and-down up and down applause up and down and up and down You think you know I swear to God was at a Catholic high mass Yeah That it's another part of that just half we should time it I'll bet ya half of the entire show let's just call it a show Is applause

30:00 It's just applause and every single, every single... And there was an applause with a standing ovation. Well that's what you're supposed to do. That's idiotic! Yeah now then again of course on the other side the Republicans sat there and so they were not getting up a couple of times? They cut to them and most of time they weren't getting up I mean some of them were kind of intermixed but 90% of the times they weren't getting up in it but the CBS would cut You know, Obama would say something and the Democrats would go crazy and clap. And they'd cut... usually that Boehner guy is the guy who had the camera on or Bohner whatever his name was.

30:39 Because he had his arms folded and he looked gruff. So Obama says, it's for the good of the nation and for the good of the children! And then all the Democrats would stand up and clap and he'd be sitting there with his arms folded as they make him look like an idiot. What do you hate? Kids?! Yeah so I thought that was just bad. That was very slanted cover. CBS and NBC is They're over the top with this kind of thing. Anyway, so then they had the one moment of course in that where Obama starts talking about illegal aliens and they get booed first he gets booed yeah and some guy yells lies this guy Wilson yeah oh that was Wilson? Yeah and so Pelosi and Biden look over there glare at us we're going to give you two to the head you dick

31:30 You're on the list now. Now, there's a couple of things he had... I have to give him kudos on one analogy that i thought was really a winner because they haven't heard it before and always especially written for this speech where he's talking about private health care insurance and then the public option. And he uses the analogy that just because there are public universities, it doesn't mean there is no more private universities they do compete in the real world and I thought that was like a really good analogy. Yeah, although it made me immediately think of our discussion from the last show where all these public universities are making off with tons of dough. They're ripping us off! But okay yeah the analogy was there but that's immediately i thought like oh my god man... Yeah that means everyone is going to rip us off instead just a private university ripping us off you'll be getting ripped off by the government too. But still time I was good and

32:32 I got some other notes which i'll go through but uh he did bring up a little bit of malpray. He finally got the Republicans... Yeah, the tort reform. He kind of slipped it in there's a little torte reform idea in there And by the way, somebody... Just a quick explanation. The tort reform would basically be a limit not really a limit but you can't... A cap on malpractice like we have in the state of California? Right well it's not really going to be a cap but its going to be if you lose if you bring a lawsuit which apparently would be frivolous then you would have to pay the legal fees of the defending party Yeah hopefully they'd be caps too

33:11 So anyway, before the show everybody, Lou Dobbs and everybody were going over the pieces of the speech that they had passed out to the media. And one of the observers said well you know anything that they pass out in advance has got something in it that is some thematic thing you have to check into but one other guys pointed out a little catch phrase that apparently Obama's been using I haven't caught it but he pointed it out and it was used in this speech and it's when he is talking about some trend or something. He uses the term, not this time not now! Yeah...it was a...he actually started off with that which by the way

33:50 the news outlets clearly had this speech before the speech started because i saw that quote already rolling on lower thirds on the scroll, before the president even walked into the chambers so the idea was he said this has been brought up by many presidents and it's going to stop with me essentially but they had the speech before it started. Well, my understanding is that they only had pieces of it. Oh of course! Give the news media the choice sound bites...the quotes.. Of course yeah Now the thing that got me about this speech was what was this Ted Kennedy death letter? He goes on those of us who knew Teddy and apparently he got a death letter you know letter not to be open until I'm dead

34:36 from Kennedy which we could reveal now, you know it's like he is the Pope or something. He has got some vault that he gets to open Is there a copy of that available somewhere? I don't know i think the whole thing was a scam to be honest about it but... Well its highly disputable thats for sure Ted Kennedy death letter let me just do quick search It was near the end of the speech when he was pulling his Reagan style of public speaking out with these personal anecdotes about this person and that person, Ted Kennedy's death letter. I want to know if you said anything about Chapaquiddick? That's what i want to know...if thats in the death letter Oh and by the way, I totally boned her! You can send your email to Adam. Please do

35:23 It doesn't matter. We're not going to solve anything what's going on here John is it's a mass and of course we've been conditioned this way but really, we are in a mass vibe Oh, everyone should be treated fairly and we have to have a beautiful world. Part of it is your generation's fault actually and so we've been conditioned into believing that you know we can have all these things and everybody can live in peace and harmony and they're gonna all be good We would not only will we all be taken care of, but you actually won't get sick and we'll fix everything. And that's just not reality, you know? And we all have to chip in for the poor sods and this has been proven just not to work! It's just not the way life works in general and of course you've always got these

36:15 these characters in there who will take advantage of this feeling, this vibe that the universe wants of everyone to be happy and live in harmony. And they'll take advantage of that for their own personal benefit gain and power. This can only end in a couple ways none of them really pleasant but it doesn't work! It just doesn't work this way you've got have losers and winners in life... That's it So the, uh... Thanks for your response. Thanks for the words of encouragement. No! It's Atlas Shrugged. Read it. You know if you keep mentioning that I'll put a link up there with a link to my affiliate. Why don't you read it? Yeah, I got nothing better to do than read that book that is a rewrite of her Fountainhead book which I read Go read Atlas Shrugged. It's different

37:12 So you did you read the fountain I've started it yes, huh sure now have started it. I'll document that Yes, so I got this clip here called Obama school speech what do you think that is? Well, I would presume that is about Obama's speech on September 8th to the school children of the country. Oh right! This is a... Duh! Whoa no clues in the title there? No clues! This is like your death letter. I can't remember anything. Your death letter it was like, I gotta remember to say something about this school speech okay

37:50 Okay, so the school speech. I want to get that in before because we're I think we're beating this other thing up Yes, and I got some other things to talk about This is an interesting little observation that you know these these right-wing talk cable shows which Obama? Condemned on his main song really yeah he condemned them all yeah it was great Which does nothing but just jack up the ratings. But anyway, so this is Hannity who like you know by the way people out there should know that these guys especially on the cable shows they don't really do it... The two of us do more work than those guys and make One one hundredth of the money. Yeah, we make almost no money but we do all our own work these guys have a staffs of writers who dig this stuff up and they get some pretty good material I mean the best example is Glenn Beck who used to do a radio show where he was just yacking away He's a dummy to be honest about it But he's got with his staff for writers. He's a genius. It looks like one gene away from retardation

38:46 It's just not what you know, but I'll tell you he has good stuff because he has got good writers. This is a good example of good writing digging up something very interesting and then Hannity who can't really say anything without having snide comments within the sentence structure which i find slightly annoying but at the same time he gets his point across play the Obama school speech I thought this was interesting Today President Obama addressed school children across the country now the speech was praised by the mainstream media and drew little attention from the Democratic majority on Capitol Hill. But as Byron York of The Washington Examiner points out, that was certainly not the case back in 1991. On October 1st of that year President George Herbert Walker Bush spoke to students at a Washington area junior high school and unlike the anointed one president bush was slammed for holding the event now their very first line of a front page Washington Post article the very next day said quote

39:39 The White House turned a Northwest Washington junior high classroom into a television studio and its students into props. And that's not all. Is there more to this? Because I do want to say something about that. Yeah, he's got a couple of more pile-ons Well what...I did see some of that What I found to be interesting when i looked at the school auditorium is that over to the left There was and I don't know if this was by design or if this is just how it works in large crowds But it seemed like all the African American students were all in one section one section for one camera shot. That's the way it looked to me if I were directing this, which of course is highly produced and directed that i probably would...if I had the same agenda I probably would have done the same thing It just appeared to be that way Democrats even called for a full investigation on how the speech was funded they held hearings on the matter and they forced then education secretary Lamar Alexander to testify before congressional panel

40:40 Call me crazy, but I don't expect to see a similar story on the front page of tomorrow's Washington Post But we'll say now they're always bitching about each other. This is what tires me Is the news media complaining about the news media? That's a circus. Yeah, that gives us shit. What do we do? We like yeah you guys suck well let me um So no sooner had I mentioned on Sunday's show my frustration about the so-called liquid bombers in the United Kingdom from 2007. Yeah, the timing is fantastic because of course they had been acquitted all of them due to a hung jury in the UK Gitmo Nation East

41:21 What can I stop you before you go there sure because I have one note on this pile of notes that I You haven't eaten yet That I haven't eaten yet And I just wanted and it's just for a background for the public out there because it realized last night while I was watching Obama speech that There is a question. I should have asked you A couple of times in the last year, and I haven't done it and I think the public would be interested In just a quick take on health care, public option healthcare in Holland and Great Britain both of which you have experienced personally. Yes What about it? Is it any good? Um... no

42:05 No, in the United Kingdom no it is not good. You wait an incredibly long time for necessary operations there are very long waiting lists It is of course good that if you just want to go see your general practitioner you can get in and get an appointment. It costs you essentially almost nothing or it cost you nothing meds are five pounds regardless of what the actual cost may be. So that part is good but if you are actually in need of something, forget about it I've gone private many times for my family to get... My wife ex-wife I should say needed an emergency appendicitis removal

42:53 She was misdiagnosed for a year and then it was really dangerous. I remember when she was misdiagnosed, yes you did! And i was able to take her private considering her condition might have saved your life who knows what could have happened if the appendix had exploded that would've been pretty bad in the Netherlands prior to 2008 change where there was basically a single payer type option and the doctors and pharmaceuticals had limits on what they could charge for services and products. I think it wasn't general reasonable, although the same applies to the idea of a death panel or the idea of hey you know what? You're basically at

43:47 at the end of your life. No service for you! That is just a fact of how the system works now they changed that in 2008 everyone had to go to a private health insurance and, of course now that's out of control costs are rising but that was a test right? It's a beta test So, pros and cons if you're old. No I mean you are going to die and they are going let you die because your usefulness has been used up that's the way it works. I'm sorry this is just a system. To be able to see a doctor and get your meds cheaply very very good so there is pros and cons

44:24 Although I have the public you do have the private backup though. I think that's a good thing, right? So and here's an interesting thing. I just got a note from my I have worldwide private insurance I am NOT a member of our company insurance scheme because I have this, you know there's pre-existing conditions within my family so you know i don't want to mess that up and switch around. They just notified me personally because they had read in gossip magazines that I have now permanently moved to San Francisco they are dropping my coverage even though it's a worldwide health insurance. Well that doesn't make any sense! No of course not, but you know I think they're looking at the news and saying dude that shit is expensive over there we don't want to insure that guy so anyway back to um back to uh the liquid bombers yes the liquid bombers so the deal is is that uh you know we've been following these boneheads

45:21 and uh... they had got a busted for some in out of the blue they apparently to try them again justice to put it seemed to me the whole thing was a publicity stunt prove that they were right about banning these under milliliters liquid and by the way i was watching on one of the new shows they actually had some guy build one of these liquids bombed i saw that little little love like a vitamin water bottle yeah and blew off the side of a plane You see them put a little bottle in this and I have the video linked in the show notes He puts a little plastic bottle of like goop Next to his seat inside the fuselage of this fake plane, and then they cut to the explosion. Yeah There's no detonator attached to this thing you know it was clearly whatever he put next that seat was not what exploded but that that's neither here nor there

46:10 So just to review briefly, all of them are acquitted of this alleged plot to take essentially what is the peroxide There's something some day it was pretty sketchy. Yeah What is the name of the chemical? It's used to bleach your hair hydrogen hydrogen peroxide so they actually were in possession of hydrogen peroxide uh... they did not have tickets that i have passports but yet these guys when you get on these planes and they're going to blow them up so the jury could not convict him because it was just not enough evidence and by the way the number of people there gonna kill is now up to ten thousand right thousands of people

46:59 No sooner had I said these guys had all been acquitted and it was basically, it's basically a retail scam which I still believe that is because of course the retailers want to sell you $7 bottle of water. They wanna sell you all this toilet articles and aftershave and perfume etc., All the stuff you can't take with you through that one simple x-ray machine which by the way I could take all kinds of wires and batteries without any check whatsoever And all it takes is a little bit of plastic Plastic bottle and some liquid and double-a battery. Well, I got tons of double a battery so they don't check me for that So they get acquitted. Now I guess they don't have double jeopardy in the United Kingdom, so they say hey shit that didn't work let's just get another jury and lets just do it all over again! Then they're able to convict three of these guys and i'm thinking myself because of course I get tons of emails saying you're full of shit there you know they were guilty its good their gonna kill tens of thousands of people... What was the difference? What happened between jury number one and jury number two? And I found out

48:01 What has happened? Okay, so the rule in the British courts are that you cannot use intercepted material as evidence i.e emails that you've intercepted So they did a workaround and they got these emails to be introduced as evidence to the second jury, not because they were intercepted but they were taken off the Yahoo email server in America. There's a difference between actually intercepting the email or going to Yahoo and saying hey dudes give us these e-mails okay? That was the trick now here are the emails

48:42 And so this is what convicted these guys, not the fact that they didn't have passports, didn't have tickets. Hydrogen peroxide with double A batteries I'm no chemist but i think you need a lot more than the little bottle they showed. I don't know it could be totally true there's you know who the fuck knows? But here are the emails and then here's what prosecutors said it meant 4th of July 2006 and by the way, these are all emails to Pakistan Okay, not Afghanistan. Not to Iraq to Pakistan quote listen dude When is your mate gonna bring the projectors and the taxis to me? I got all my bits and bobs tell your mate to make sure the projectors and taxis are fully ready and proper I don't want my presentation messed up

49:32 The prosecutor said that means taxis were code for knowledge and equipment because Ahmed Ali still needed some guidance. The word presentation meant attack." I spoke to my friend, he will soon sort the prices for the telephones everything is going good here we'll need to send you some CDs and DVDs over to use soon don't forget to call me. Prosecutor said Over the coming weeks, surveillance officers see Sawar Ahmed Ali and Tanvir Hussain buying bomb parts. That's the hydrogen peroxide and the AA batteries The prosecution alleges that CDs & DVDs is a reference to martyrdom videos they expect to send out to Pakistan

50:17 Next hi gorgeous well nice to hear from you your friend can go for his rapping concert rehearsal But somewhere popular would be good make sure he goes on the bus service which is most common over here prosecutors said That was said to mean that their aides in Pakistan had given the go-ahead for a dummy run to test airport security. The prosecution alleged bus service meant domestic American carriers such as United or American Airlines and this goes on and on, now I'm sorry but this is really taking it a bit too far. That's awfully elaborate code! It sounds like these guys are experienced mobsters

51:04 that are talking to each other knowing their phones tapped and that's when they were, you know producing. Here is the question I would ask if these guys are sophisticated enough to create this elaborate code so they could do this kind of a scheme even though like you said they had no passports or anything like that. Why wouldn't they just encrypt the messages with some sort of, you know a true crypt? Or all these things you can get on your computers I mean they have email, encrypting is not difficult to do unless they thought this was encrypting and because... These guys by the way didn't look that bright! No! And this is because we've been conditioned by television drama series that this type of sleuthing and extreme deduction

51:46 is valid, you know? So forget the evidence. Basically these guys were convicted upon these emails. Here's another one... Hi! Smiley Emoticon Got some good news that will bring a big smile to your face I have some nice files you will love It will give you wet dreams after you see it ha-ha-ha I have 15 suppliers to give Calvin Klein aftershaves One box of 50 is only 175 pounds which by the way sounds like they're running an illegal Yeah, a grey market. What it meant according to prosecutors this is the first in a series of confusing exchanges over the prices and quantities of aftershave and stock buying The prosecution said this was all code for quantities and concentrations of hydrogen peroxide commonly sold as hair bleach The chemical was a key part of the bomb design I mean look fuck the terrorists you know if any terrorist fuck you i want to kill you too but this is bullshit

52:43 This is just bullshit. I'm sorry, it's BS and this is what these guys were... And you know, it doesn't matter because no one looks into this shit No one's gonna look at what act where they were actually convicted of It's like oh they were convicted! I'm so happy that we're gonna kill tens of thousands of us Here's my water Mr TSA please take my water You should use that for the beginning of the show. I will let me just mark it about time about time Yeah, and I think your points well taken so These guys are probably smuggling you know cheap egg cologne back. I mean yeah, I mean Let's face it in Pakistan they use a lot of cologne

53:26 I don't want to generalize, but in order to make an explosive device with hydrogen peroxide what else do you need and how much else of it do you need? You look at that BBC video and literally I have here a bottle of vitamin water. It's the exact same bottle which is 20 fluid ounces, 591 milliliters is any concoction of hydrogen peroxide with a double A battery as described by court documents. Is that enough to cause that type of a ruckus? And unless you're transporting some type of highly explosive fluid along with it which probably would be too... It would probably blow up if you dropped your bag can you actually pull it off? I mean that's what I'm interested in

54:17 There are things you could do with it, but by the way if you wanted to make a small bomb You could do it with 100 milliliter limit. If you were wanting to make some nitroglycerin So all you have to do is put five different hundred milliliter bottles of shit in your little plastic baggie and it goes through when you're at the same place This is no this is no thwart Yeah, no I agree. It's not a thwart at all They should either ban it did you just ban all liquids tell people they can't bring anything on the damn plane Actually, they'd like to do is just basically make sure you go on the plane by yourself And they strap you down for the whole flight and you know then throw food in your face You know maybe feed you and feed you and then they get you off the plane awesome No knife for you

55:04 Yeah, that and the plastic knife. That's another classic. I do like the KLM pilots though Whenever you fly to or from the United States, they come on the intercom because the KLM the other Dutch You know They're a little laid-back there smoking dupes up there in the cockpit and the captain will always come on and say oh by the way The American TSA has told us to tell you. You're not allowed to stand around the toilets It can only be one person at a time But it literally is like they've made us tell you this so just we told ya don't worry about it I Something interesting which of course did not nor will it hit mainstream happened the other two days ago I think, which is worth mentioning. And i think I mentioned this to you the other day and you said no I hadn't heard about it so that means that... Not only has it not gone mainstream but never will Charlie Sheen teamed up with Alex Jones and they kind of played like a media hack

56:08 which I don't think, I don't know if it was really executed properly. It certainly got me for a second where apparently or the story that was released was that Charlie Sheen had requested 30-minute interview with President Obama and he was granted 20 minutes and then Charlie Sheen wrote up a transcript of his 20 minutes with the president and this 20 minutes included Charlie Sheen presenting every single piece of what I would by the way deem as credible evidence about government cover-up and government involvement in 9 11. And so it has his questions, and Obama's answers now of course this didn't actually happen it was just a you know this is probably what it would have been in the whole idea is you go to this twenty minute interview when there's all these links up this credible evidence

57:02 that it was a quote an inside job. And although I think a great attempt to bring some attention to the matter now that we're almost eight years after the fact. I don't think it's really going to hit home, in fact they even saw Bill O'Reilly like call Charlie Sheen a pinhead and just played a little audio quote didn't even explain what actually happened what the whole scheme was but i do think its interesting you know just to read through it and look at the different links Think I've said many times that you know, I'm not an architect. I don't know about thermite I do know about aviation and as long as the official 9-11 Commission report contains extremely Incorrect information about aviation And what airplanes can do? I don't believe any of it We know that so I have a jingle for that someone sent me

58:06 WTC7 won't go away. I love it, brother! No that's fantastic! I don't know how to tell my babe... WTC 7 won't go away. Yeah WTC 7 won't go away that's one thing for sure so here's an interesting story this is your government at work again What was the price of that website they're doing recovery.gov? That's... Well, there are two prices we know now it was $18 million for recovery.gov and 53 million dollars to secure the TSA's computer infrastructure

58:48 Well, General Dynamics just won a $10 million contract to develop a network of websites aimed at influencing foreign audiences in support of the US Special Operations Command. Okay? How does that work? A 10 million dollar... Can we just set up a WordPress blog for that? I mean please! It's a one-year deal. You gotta send me that link, I want to put that in the show notes. Four 12 month option periods which means they can get more money. Oh yay! For work on the transregional... this is good one, I like this term Transregional Web Initiative A plan to synchronize all US Combat Command websites designed to win hearts and minds. Mmmmm it's a love fest

59:36 A love fest contract. I mean the only reason, what's his general... Okay here is the question on my mind What the hell is General Dynamics doing developing websites? Aren't they a jet maker or something? Well you know they've got this intern program and they need interns to do something so they decided that this would be a good one for them It's horse crap John. They're just going to job it out to somebody anyway and take five million Of course yeah And give it to some two man shop to build of course Why are we in on these deals? Because we're too busy complaining about not being in on these deals. The United States Department of Agriculture agreed last week to buy an additional 30 million dollars worth, thirty million by the way, worth of pork from the ailing pork industry for total of 151 million dollars purchased this year to compensate the supposed damage wrought by the emergence of swine flu. Yeah I've heard about this

1:00:37 There you go. All this tells you is how stupid the public is, oh my god! You can't eat pork or get a swine flu Yeah and your point is? A lot of people have sent me this link and I'm not quite sure what to make it but in the past three days there's been like 50 small aircraft incidents When people are saying that something weird is going on, and I'm not quite sure. In the US alone that is... So I'm just making mention of it, which means that our listeners and producers will send me more information. Yeah we need some help! But it is interesting... It's higher than average. And there are incidents and there are incidents. There's just dumb stuff that happens but that could be a number of things. For all I care could be this state of the moon affecting people brains taking an idiot pill doing stupid stuff. It's not like all crashes and stuff

1:01:37 But it is worth mentioning that this, that is definitely an interesting coincidence. So I've got another clip here that i want to play which is uh... I was actually, even though this was, I think O'Reilly did this one. It was taken as a kind of lighthearted thing and I was actually distressed by the story because I don't understand why what he's going to explain it actually takes place in NBC store. NBC News continues support the president just about every way I love that. Their headquarters in Manhattan, the NBC store is selling Obama merchandise! Yeah. Dolls shirts mugs you can get them all at the NBC store

1:02:24 Didn't see any Sarah Palin stuff there. I didn't see bold fresh, but they may have been sold out You know this is a story from I think it's at least three or four weeks old I remember people sending me the link and I was like well yeah So what you know? I find it distressing that had that network That's a news organization behind It has got this kind of stuff for sale. I mean What is the point to Are they boosters for the president? Is that what the deal is? Well, I don't know if it's any more distressing than Obama chia pet commercial. I see running everywhere. I love that one! God... That's like huh?! The Obama chia pet. I've been trying to catch that one so i can get a clip but I keep missing it. I do see uh...I presume looking at the title of this clip debt stinks that you caught the same commercial that I did yes this commercials been on over and over again and stuff but in the problem with this commercial we can play

1:03:18 which by the way if you watch a the glenn and i glam back but uh... blue dogs he has apparently not i don't know if anybody sponsoring a show at all it's all you know we either unions or or special interest groups that there is no companies any day i think he's like jacinto bailout on america my i think as weird as almost like public service announcements but this bad has been floating around The punchline is debt stinks at the end, but the problem is it's very poorly produced. You can hardly hear the kids But they are doing the Pledge of Allegiance to America's debt And if you could kind of catch the words... If somebody out there can give us a transcript of the words we'll put it on the show notes, but why don't you play it?

1:04:01 American taxpayers owe more than 500 million in interest payments every day to cover our government's debt. Much of that debt is owed to foreign governments. Go to defeatthedebt.com. Debt stinks! that's things and i wanted to have you going to defeat the debt dot com maybe i have a hand that would be the first place to look

1:04:38 defeatthedebt.com. Anyways, I pledge allegiance to the debt of some of the Chinese government who... Yeah no wait, yeah. To its own. The Chinese government? To its owned! I mean the whole thing is hilarious if you just understand it. Interest compoundable. Oh okay so there's a lot we'll have to look through this because they think they've got a lot different versions of this commercial So we can probably get a better version of it Well first of all, yeah I mean have you seen what's been happening? As I was reading through, I think either Wall Street Journal or Financial Times and you know we're right now at a double whammy for the dollar. So at the very moment where people are saying hey wait a minute let's get out of this dollar and by the way they seem to be going to gold I might want to point out At this at the same time this is happening Of course We're printing up massive amounts of dollars so that what you happen is that it devalues And I'm just thinking in myself You know

1:05:37 You know, Ben Bernanke he was so much the right guy to have in the Federal Reserve because if you really want to blow up the economy implode everything. You wanna have a guy who is an expert on The Great Depression It is textbook! Is exactly this same blueprint Exactly the same thing that happened is taking place now and Ben Bernanke with Alan Greenspan preceding him And Timmy Geithner now carrying the baton It's happening and the dollar is going to drop more and more. It's now $1.44, $1.45 per euro it's gonna go to... they're already predicting a dollar fifty of course what that does on the other hand is make sure oil goes up its now seventy two seventy three bucks you know at a time where we have no jobs

1:06:23 You know, it's and we are just spending and spending money that we don't have. I mean it's like duh you said the legendary words to me the other day at lunch hey this economy doesn't look good. Doesn't seem like its going to be real good. Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! So here's another thing that is depressing. Play the in Afghanistan clip, this is a piece of story that was run on the network news and they're out in the field in Afghanistan and they found some... oh this is actually on 60 minutes I'm sorry This was on 60 Minutes And their talking to this guy who casually says something that I thought was like Of course he never questioned it or say what? But just play this short For The Captain

1:07:16 Seen here putting out the flames moments after the blast, it was the bloodiest day so far. Nothing's easy It's gonna be a long fight and I'm not telling you that it's gonna happen tomorrow or next year But it might be 12-15 years from now and we're still in Afghanistan What? So...I'm glad you bring this up So, of course this is the necessary war as our president calls it. It's necessary and there are lots of questions about it in Germany... Oh wow! By the way tell me again why its necessary? Oh, it's necessary because this where Al-Qaeda stems from Bin Laden still hold up in a cave and they're still plotting to come over here and kill us And there are plenty news articles that back that up that that is the story

1:08:04 and i was just thinking about this harm i'd harmed carside he's the president of uh... afghanistan actually have to correct myself uh... he did not go to school in united states actually went to a school in india any is that native of uh... of afghanistan But there's always been this talk about his brother who was known as King Karzai and he has been accused of, but I totally believe it, of running all the drug trade in Afghanistan. And I'm thinking to myself okay so we went into Iraq, the first thing that we did is grabbed Saddam Hussein right? We eventually got him hanged that's just a fact

1:08:42 Now this Karzai dude who has been in Afghanistan since 2001, he's been running the show there. We treat him... we kiss his ass all the time! You know we got everyone over there hey Hamad how you doing? What's going on and like what how can this be?! How come we aren't pressuring this guy to shape up his freaking country well because he is an obvious plant and you said something at lunch again yesterday John which I looked up it's not him but his brother Mahmoud Karzai Built a restaurant empire starting in San Francisco Boston and Baltimore this guy runs everything

1:09:21 He owns the Toyota dealership. He took over the cement factory, the only cement factory in Afghanistan which by the way he did all he did is came in put a bag full of 25 million dollars on the table and said and was the only bidder I'm going to take it over after the government had already confiscated it so this basically runs the whole show when Afghanistan and if you don't go along with what he says And you're within the government and this is a link from the New York Times, fantastic article. The article is actually from March 4th so I know that's just stuff that mainstream news media won't really delve into although luckily it's being reported on So we've got this trifecta of Karzai who was in a completely protected presidential palace so his hat doesn't get dirty and his cape

1:10:12 and is protected by, of course the coalition forces. You've got his brother running the drug trade, Wally, the King Karzai. He's got this other brother who runs all of the business, all commerce and essentially is the mobster. And now it makes so much sense we've got the coalition troops protecting this gang of thugs from the Taliban who are actually trying to get rid of all these assholes. So, we are in there protecting the drug trade which as you know is the way that Wall Street can shovel money in because the only type of entity in United States that can take money outside of the country without registering that if it's more than $10,000 are publicly listed companies so

1:11:00 We've got the drugs flowing back and forth freely. We know from Bloomberg that it's a completely commoditized industry, they can tell you exactly how much the poppy stocks are up or down. They say production is up 22%. How the fuck do they know this? Because it's all registered because it's a big scam! We're over there protecting this gang of thugs. That's what going on. So, my understanding is that restaurant in San Francisco that the guy owns is pretty good. That's the downside! You can't hate the guy because he has a good restaurant We should go eat there this week! Let's go and we should ask questions

1:11:40 Hey, did Hamid come by lately? You seen him? What's his favorite spot? In the early days right after 9-11 he was in the city and I guess he rushed off for some reason. Yeah! He rushed off to go assume his presidency And so there was a few news stories about it that thought it was quaint that we have and the way they played it though of course is these guys were in exile running this huge chain of restaurants in Boston, San Francisco. It was quite interesting. I'm sure the food is good, Afghanistan's food is very hot. Let's go eat there we've got to eat there but you know when you just look at it all its face value it just becomes so incredibly clear what is going on because nothing else going on in Afghanistan except drugs Bloomberg is tracking like an oil commodity that I bet somewhere there are futures we can buy on

1:12:38 You know, Karzai is not being pressured. In fact he was just re-elected or not technically re-elected yet but there's you know every single organization every watchdog said hey there was ballot box stuffing there was huge fraud they're like that doesn't matter we're gonna count those votes anyway and what's his name Holbrook who is the special envoy, i.e., a czar he's been saying oh well you know you shouldn't count those and they're afraid of them John I believe the United States government that the administration is afraid of these guys for couple reasons one they don't want to get drug supply cut off which of course being flown back on military planes and transport

1:13:21 and they don't want to get banned from the restaurant. I think that's probably the number one thing. No service for you! That would really, really suck because that Afghani food is really good So spicy yeah, so I'm thinking this is a this is horse crap and on top of that It's all it's all coming from Pakistan. You know when are we gonna go invade there instead of just sending unmanned drones over to kill people? Okay, I mean that's lame you know let's like if you want to fight Let's watch this boom Go fight in there then they keep blowing up civilians all the time

1:13:58 And I thought it was Al-Qaeda, now it's the Taliban. Why is the Taliban? Because the Taliban had completely obliterated the poppy fields they got rid of everything They had a couple other radical ideas that you may or may not agree with but hey don't go live there okay! I'm sorry just don't go live there apparently you can get out and do quite well in the west You can come here and build a restaurant chain So don't live there if you don't like the shit that they make you do. I love women, I love women's rights, I'm sorry but we can't change it because we have enough problems in our own country with women being suppressed so let's concentrate on that first But no! We're over there and we are protecting these guys That is what is seems to me And Iraq Did our president not say he was pulling the troops out?

1:14:47 It's vague. I don't think he said, yeah he did actually say they're going to be pulled out by 2012 or something like that. Right, he is pulling the troops out but he's replacing them Yeah with guys who cost even more money Exactly He's replacing them And by the way when did the army have to be catered? You know, in the green zone if you're...you know they have these catering companies. They had a huge contract. They've got Burger King John! Burger King and Pizza Hut! Where's the KP? Where is the guy that could do the cooking? Peeling a potato! The guy who used to...you know the sergeant of the mess hall. Whatever happened to these things?! This is how you save money on these war efforts this cost a lot of money to have all these private mercenaries and private catering companies and all this other stuff no wonder this stuff costs...no wonder we are going broke No wonder we are broke. This is why were broke

1:15:34 I have pictures of when I was at Basra airport in southern Iraq, when I was there in 2003. I was blown away! Hey let's go eat and I'm like okay... And then actually been to the Dutch Marines camp and that was pretty much everyone has KP duty and it was really peeling potatoes and shit although there were some catered stuff And I'm like, whoa Burger King but with a sign you know not just like a tent with like a franchise right there and the pizza. With the logo on everything yeah i'm not kidding! I'm looking for the link here but in this past week another 485 million dollars worth of contracts signed to send more contractors over to Iraq. Let me see why is this not opening up?

1:16:27 Come on, Linky. I'm watching this thing, it's at the Steamboat Institute and one guy is talking to another guy. Oh! I saw this, the Steamboat Institute fantastic yeah go ahead But here it gets me there's a guy from the Galen or woman from the Galen or guy I don't remember A guy from the Galen institute, a guy from the Cato Institute at the Steamboat Institute they're all talking about this and that where did all these institutes come from? And were are these guys, these blowhards seem to be manufacturing them by the ton

1:17:07 that sit around going to other institute events, and one institute talking to another. This is worse than the government! Well this is how it works, thats what the CFR is, Council on Foreign Relations, The Trilateral Commission, This Steamboat which by the way was hosted by Blakely who I think has an interesting character They sit around... He was the only guy that wasn't a member of an institute. They sit around, they dream up shit and then they basically get lobbyists to go an push through their agenda this is how it works! This is what..this is how tha-that's the real government right there when you know USAID who by the way is sending millions to Afghanistan we're sending millions to Afghanistan they shouldn't get shit from us if they're trying to blow us up why are we trying to give them money?

1:17:52 Boggles the mind. You can use that as a clip too. Here, listen to this This is my favorite link of the week I need a jingle for that Adam's favorite link of the week we have finally John Broken ground and you think a website is expensive We have finally broken ground on the Homeland Security complex Do you know how much this complex is going to cost an office building essentially? Well, an office building can't cost more than about a good office building should run you about 150 million. Okay try 3.4 billion dollars $3.4 billion for department that is only what two years old

1:18:37 Well that should piss off the other departments. Well listen to this, this is my favorite quote so upon queried why the Department of Homeland Security needs a 3.4 billion dollar complex Secretary of Defense or Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano said it will help us hold meetings It will help us hold meetings. It will help us build that culture of one DHS This is more expensive than the Pentagon Why isn't the public up in arms about this sort of crap? Because no one knows about it

1:19:25 Why isn't the media talking about what is the problem with this country that people don't say hey, this is bull You're not building a 3.2 billion dollar building where they because you got there looking for ways to save money Oh look at their good person day They bought a box of popsicles you have to take that off the budget as we say when your costing us Tens of dollars is a popsicle as we say in aviation John while you're looking at all The little ship on the map trying not to fly into it you crash into the mountain That's right in front of you That's the way it goes. There is nothing to see here, Jingle. So our job, if anything is to at least bring these things into the topic of conversation. I know it's very difficult for people to get friends and colleagues and fellow students to listen to this program we have course are deemed completely nuts crackpots idiots not part of the program

1:20:24 But maybe you can just talk about some of the things that we discuss We have links for all of this and in this particular story about these secure at Homeland Security complex It's a CNN story So I believe that the people who are hypnotized and programmed by cable news media will take note of it They'll they'll take your link serious if it says cnn.com In the URL but get the conversation started because that's that's about the only thing we can do and we do it as almost as a public service, almost. But yeah we did get some contributions and I'm going to mention some names here uh... and i do gonna pound the pavement for getting more people to contribute. We have a lot of listeners that we only have a very small number who contribute the rest of the people think that we can just keep doing this without their help

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1:26:43 And we do not want to take subscriptions from him. We do not want to take advertisers because it turns into a fiasco, its corrupts the show and its boring. It makes the show shit. Totally boring. And changes the pacing. How can we laugh about commercials if we got our own commercial? That would never work that way. Couple of quick as we wrap up couple quick notes HR 1207 the audit the Fed bill will enter into The hearings, I guess that's hearings or committee. I'm not quite sure Friday September 25th nine o'clock as promised Barney Twinkle Toes Frank has agreed to hold hearings on it so that's good That's a really good start although John you maintain that it'll never pass of course not But it's a good start

1:27:35 So at least we can get some conversation. We'll get good audio clips, there will be some... you know we're gonna get interviews and stuff like that. And I just wanted to mention finally what you haven't heard throughout this entire program and of course now i have to play it at least once. He's a mac daddy! He pimps white women and black women Obama is a long-legged mac daddy Although highly entertaining we figured that would be pretty offensive to a lot of people hopefully to some people in our very own audience One of our employees John over me vo Maggie Came and now you know, I have a great relationship with Maggie who was uh, I shouldn't give her age but she's older than 50 and younger than 70

1:28:19 and I think she's an ex-Black Panther actually. She has threatened to kill me several times, and we talk about all kinds of crazy shit a lot of the stuff we discuss on No Agenda and it is fun because she'll really push back but she is total Obama bot and I kid her about it so we have great relationship which is really private not part of the workplace although they usually take place in the workplace And she said, oh have you heard about the LA Guns? I'm like LA Guns that's a rock band from the 80s from the west coast. LA Guns apparently it's some mailing list that she is on which is part of the NAACP San Francisco chapter and she forwarded to me which I can't post because there are all these email addresses in it and she forwarded this entire thread

1:29:13 of NAACP members I presume who have now finally found Pastor Manning and oh my god the stuff they are writing so she said he's gonna get killed. Where can i find someone who for five CDs will go and kill this fool? And this is the kind of stuff that it in his email, here ill just read this be sure to click on the link and check this black fool out African-Americans need to develop a strategy for dealing with educated, ignorant Uncle Tom's steppin' feathers suckers like this. With a PhD, a Bible and microphone in an audience this is a dangerous man. And in the year 2009 he has the nerve to record this garbage." The conversation I tried to get into with her which was just impossible was Maggie...I understand obviously the guy's passing on a message which is not okay although it's interesting how we explain what he means by this you might want to check out this where explains what he means with Mac Daddy

1:30:13 She's like no we have to kill him. It's like this but that makes no sense This is a there is a thing of freedom of speech You know whether you like it or not let the guy talk and now you're just bringing more to the forefront by exposing him To everybody not discussable, not discussible well That's the way it is with the the true Obama bot yeah I guess So anyway, um... But it is a little incendiary I would say. Yes. Yeah but- But it's funny! I think there's humor there? I don't know why people just don't see the humor. I see the humor and that's what I tried to keep telling her. Don't you just see that the humor she's like there is nothing funny about that said the guys wearing your purple dress come on get real for a minute here no she couldn't see that oh well

1:31:03 Let's try on Sunday maybe to discuss, because there have been some updates with my eminent domain situation which are quite interesting. Because there's some huge government scam happening in the United Republic of California. Well I also have a, right after the Obama speech to the second, bing! The phone rings and I got a call from a survey person and I put the recorder on so we had a little survey. Oh good, oh good, did you talk to this survey person? Yeah Excellent. I took the survey. Oh great! Love it

1:31:39 Coming to you from the Crackpot Command Center, located in the minimum security containment cell under a real threat of eminent domain in San Francisco California Gitmo Nation West I'm Adam Curry. And from a warming trend northern Silicon Valley I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be here once again on Sunday around nine o'clock Pacific time On no agenda you