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00:00 Only outlaws wear neck gaiters. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore It's Sunday July 26th 2020 This is your award winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1263 THIS IS NO AGENDA Under Chinese attack! And broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas. Capital of the drone star state In the morning everybody I am Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where today's word of the day is yummers. I'm John C. Dvorak Well before we get to being under Chinese attack, before we talk about the word of the day. We have an economic Zephyr car report

00:43 Yes, the Zephyr went by just before we started the show and it had eight normal cars and then two attached private cars. Two not one! And one of them I've never seen before it looked like an old great northern green It was green with a big vista dome, big almost at end to end beautiful car. And then the last one was that old Zephyr observation car which I have seen before that car gets rented. So how do we interpret this for the market? Obviously a CNBC is... Well, they're spending money somebody's spending money these cars aren't easy to haul around right but I mean we've got an eight-car stable but we have two bonus cars that means it's gotta be something lurking under the markets that no one is seeing

01:23 Either that or the rich are just blowing their money because they know it's all over When I went on the lake with my buddy a week ago, we went wakeboarding wakesurfing and What I noticed was everybody who has money in Austin, which are the people who live on the lake. They upgraded their gear there was new boats new jet skis people with those Mark Zuckerberg surfboards that are motorized everyone's got toys out there. I don't know yeah i don't know what it means well that doesn't mean... Well talk it over with Horowitz maybe we figure it out okay? Well then even before the Chinese attack tell me about the word of the day yummers

02:09 So I got up a little earlier and made breakfast, so i watched cooking with Sarah. And she's cooking some Mexican style foods that are very interesting and one of them says yummers. And then later Sarah hands this guest Cook a napkin with a napkin ring on the hands of two, and the woman says, Napkins? Yay! So that got me off to the wrong foot right away. Is that something peculiar in her household where they have napkins? Yeah what is going on there? It was beyond me so I turned it off in disgust.

02:55 Well, the reports are not good. I think the news started to break first here on The No Agenda Show Just a few days ago, and now the entire United States appears to be under a seed siege This woman says she didn't remember ordering anything from China. I hope that It's nothing too serious the label said earrings but Something else was inside well obviously they're not jewelry and I opened opened them up and they were seeds. But why would there be mislabeled seeds from China in her mailbox? She didn't think much of it at first."

03:34 Then she found out this is something the State Department of Agriculture is investigating seriously. She got some stern advice. Just don't throw them in the garbage, don't plant them, don't touch them. Plants and seeds in Utah are regulated strictly which is why agents with Customs and Border Protection could also become involved in the investigation So I received emails from all around Gitmo Nation but only the United States portion Virginia, Utah Let's see, even Lubbock Texas from soon to be Dame Ginger Snaps who by the way says there is not really any problem with Corona. Doesn't know what the news reports are about and everyone has more or less had the same experience where seeds just show up they're labeled as earrings and it's unclear what these seeds are and no one paid for them and they're just sending him off

04:29 As in regards to the earring part, Patrick who is a longtime listener here and occupied PDX and a licensed custom broker he says I'm able to chime in as to why people believe they're receiving packets of seeds that are marked as jewelry probably because the Chinese are declaring them as jewelry to get around the USDA declarations when it comes to importing seeds into the US. That would make sense agricultural products can require import permits phytosanitary certificates, phyto? Phytosanitary. I've never heard of this word. Woof! Woof that are time-consuming to obtain and often end up having to be sampled in or fumigated upon arrival

05:14 So I'm just thinking since this was unsolicited, people have not ordered something and these are not only...not just people who order seeds in the past. They're just showing up. I think this is some kind of new under-the-radar attack that we're witnessing from China. A couple of things. Could you turn to your speakers a little bit for me? Just a tad thank you. Had done. Thank you. Couple of things yeah they are sending them or they are coming over here randomly and there's enough reports as much it's true Most of these areas have a local university with the botany department.

05:54 The seeds could have been identified or at least it should be at the university botany department. Somebody should be looking at them, some seeds are self...you can identify what the plant is by the seed itself. There's a lot of possibilities here that reporting as it goes so shallow. It just beyond me how this stuff even gets into the news. This should have been identified and reported on long ago. Yeah, well obviously they haven't so I'm just calling it now before anything you know if it turns out to be true then we look like geniuses. Think of the show. Well you can identify what it is and you can't because nobody seems to want to go through the effort. That's what's...I think this story is somewhat bogus and I don't know why they're sending these seeds or yeah maybe some invasive species that they wanna

06:40 I mean it could be a number of things. One, it could be an invasive species that's designed to choke off the country and kill us all. It could also...it could be a man-eating plant. There can also be some Chinese vegetable that when they take over the place they can come over here have plenty of food to eat! I mean there is no...this story is stupid. Well its not stupid. Its exactly what you're saying. It's being mishandled then we don't know what it is and we should so this is no story other than It's happening and it is very odd. And I just think that it's worth noting, but okay... I do understand the idea of marking things differently which everybody does by the way not just the Chinese Yeah The we do it, the Canadians do it everybody does it But I hate the Chinese right now so it fits into my echo chamber So we got some notes

07:35 We got a note from Catherine Dame Catherine Sutton down in Bangkok, Thailand. She's irked with her hating on the Chinese. Oh okay! So I said to her don't listen to today show Please stay away wisely, but I mean I have stuff. I got the bit of the Pompeo speech Which was the final of the group? Yep nobody picked up on nobody wanted to report on it So this is I mean it's not like anyone in fact It's only our show that seems be hating on the Chinese the rest of the media loves the Chinese because they're getting money yeah now I would recommend people go to 60 Minutes Australia and look at all their reports on China. Oh, those guys have been all over China for the past couple of years. They are all over it. Apparently there's no money flowing to them and so they're just ripping them with some really good reporting. In fact one of the guys

08:29 Got arrested two or three times trying to get some of these reports out before you before we go into into that just a quick little COVID-19 update coronavirus. Yeah, I wanted to do the COVID 19 stuff first because our donations are way down Yes And that's because we didn't start and open with COVID-19 in the last show. We didn't even hardly discussed it Well there is news And there is news from Texas, as you know we are one of the central hot spots. We're open too early or run by a Republican governor. We're idiots down here! Stupid! You are your idiots So two days ago the news came out I think it was actually right after he finished on Thursday and with this headline big scary headline

09:18 In South Texas, Southwest Texas now doctors are putting triage panels together to decide who will get treated and who will die! Death panels. Death panels yes in the article it said death panels So, this is concerning. Now I know that certainly on the border... The border towns are out of control mainly because most of the inhabitants there who have a culture of hanging out and partying – I'm looking at you Latinxers! They just, they do not social distance. And so there's a it's like 65% of everybody on border towns who has any issue is Hispanic but this particular town where this report comes from I look into it and say okay so they're being overrun they have more cases It's out of control They're out of beds They are out of ICU units They gonna have to start deciding who to kill and I look a little deeper This is a 17000 person community

10:18 They have reserved for COVID 8 beds and for COVID 13 ICUs. A, that is not their total maximum but seriously? So if that's what they're saying now is that they have to triage because patient number nine you have to die. There's no other hospital in Texas that can take care of that person but listen to how Rolf played this on CNN disgusting! I understand hospitals are so overwhelmed in one county in southern Texas so the doctors have to choose who to send home to die

10:56 What are you learning? This is happening in Starr County down there in South Texas, an area that has been the hot spot within this Texas hotspot. County officials they're saying at the county hospital in Starr County that they're going to create essentially ethics and triage teams to go through the patients get which patients can be treated there at the hospital and which patients might be too sick to be treated and have to go home and wait to die essentially. This because the number of COVID patients has exploded there over the course of just last month, county officials say they didn't have any COVID patients about a month ago now they have more than 1400 more than 40 added to the rolls their yesterday so great deal of concern there hospitalizations in death up

11:43 The number of overall new cases is beginning to show signs of plateauing, but there's still disturbing details in this medical data. Here in Dallas County the county judge announced that one of the people who died reported uh died today was a five-year-old child." I see that John dropped off so I'm just going to give him a second and I want him to hear the last bit of that clip wait until he comes back okay you're back Yeah, you just I just lost ya. Yeah, I saw you go. Alright, I'm gonna play the last bit of the clip for your humor. The number of overall new cases is beginning to show signs of plateauing but there's still disturbing details in this medical data here in Dallas County The county judge announced that one of the people who died reported- died today was a five year old child So they start off this report with total bullcrap

12:37 Make it sound like this is the end of the world and then end up in Dallas, and a child died. It was fine! Come on now of course that sucks but this is fear porn that's being created here. It's really gone too far now or maybe not far enough for them I don't know. I have another little tidbit here Another one of our females that are listening to the show, another baroness of New York. Tanya! Dame Tanya So she says... Yeah you only have to read the bottom part of that note or no the part where she's very disturbed I'm not a dame overboard i'm still listening and producing this show hence the current donation but at this point two of my friends mothers have died from COVID-19 and very recently in Miami

13:36 and her dad is still in the hospital with it. But thankfully, it appears he will recover knock wood! And yes they both died of COVID not of something else while they were infected also I know one young and previously very healthy person who got COVID and survived but continues to suffer for weeks on end with an incredibly difficult recovery. I do believe the numbers are fishy, yes! Do i believe that there are shenanigans going on with every aspect of this? Of course! Do I believe that all manner of douchebags are taking advantage of this for their own purposes? Yes! However real people are actually dying or being greatly harmed. I don't remember hearing anything like this level of sickness or death in the past with a seasonal flu." Okay couple things there...I'm gonna stop.. I'm gonna read the rest of it

14:21 Correct, correct. You don't hear about it? Correct! That's exactly the problem sorry you never heard about it because they never talked about it and because when Obama was president they stopped the testing and stopped everything then media just shut up and they let people die with no discussion now during that major flu season that we did have about two or three years ago who were killed Jerry Parnell and associate of mine in a number of other people I personally knew Come on, John Perry Barlow. He got pneumonia from the flu and died! Yeah and John Perry Barlow's another guy that was all from the same strain of seasonal flu And I knew these people personally when they were younger. And they died? And they died... But then no discussion whatsoever. Whose fault is that? Anyway she continues to say so when the vibe of this show leans toward a sarcastic and dismissive

15:13 Ha ha. Anyone who thinks COVID is serious is a moron, unquote. It's really painful." I don't think we've ever said that. We have never said that! We don't play the oh there's no such thing as COVID and there has never been a case of COVID... There are websites that do that. What? We spent an inordinate amount of time in the first two months—in fact, I was almost up Dr. Birx's skirt with her numbers until I found out she was a fraud and they were defrauding people with their numbers So we've been very, very much on this. I've never said it ha-ha-ha anyone who believes in it is morons! I'd love to hear that piece

15:50 Yeah, you find me a clip. It's really painful she continues it hasn't been as bad as the past few shows The past few shows have been it hasn't been as bad as the path last show We didn't even talk about Kovach Okay But I have to say as much as I may have vehemently disagree with one or both of your views in the past This is the first time I've ever felt ashamed to be connected with the show I could not sleep from that from that one line and I know i love you guys but, I need to get that off my chest. Another couple of quick things then she just talks about N95 masks... Well if I can just say sure um so we've all suffered through this and many people suffer through other things you know We laugh about homelessness yet deal with it many of our producers are homeless at the moment. We laugh about uh stupidity when it comes to the opioid overdoses which you haven't heard much of right now

16:46 Which is getting worse by a lot. Of course it's getting worse! We have to have a series of clips if we want to discuss that Well, we shall but I just wanted to finish that If you want sympathy and oh-hoh, oh its horrible then you can just turn on the television If you want at least be able to laugh with two people who don't take themselves all that seriously and laugh about everything then you have to be prepared in certain moment There's going to be something that affects you or that you've been affected by and it's not gonna be that funny. It's just not now a couple of things We'd love Dave Tanya otherwise, I mean this is I'll give her some slack for one reason She's in New York. He's in New York. Is its insane right now? Well and what way not only is it insane in New York it always has been she's got a mayor who's a who's a lunatic and a governor whose who's an idiot yeah, and

17:43 And she is surrounded by New York media. Yes, exactly. So you can't walk outside or you can take a walk down the street if... You can have chicken wings! You can do anything without being inundated with this negative... I mean New York is like a test tube for this. Just that The New York Times and it's bullshit and the New York Daily News, most of the Trump haters we don't even bring them up into conversation much Everyone trying to maybe elect Biden and you're surrounded by this in New York, and everybody I know in New York is borderline nuts. Yes, I was gonna say Tom Starkweather, you know Tom? He's been holed up in New York with his partner Alexandra

16:46 Which is getting worse by a lot. Of course it's getting worse! We have to have a series of clips if we want to discuss that Well, we shall but I just wanted to finish that If you want sympathy and oh-hoh, oh its horrible then you can just turn on the television If you want at least be able to laugh with two people who don't take themselves all that seriously and laugh about everything then you have to be prepared in certain moment There's going to be something that affects you or that you've been affected by and it's not gonna be that funny. It's just not now a couple of things We'd love Dave Tanya otherwise, I mean this is I'll give her some slack for one reason She's in New York. He's in New York. Is its insane right now? Well and what way not only is it insane in New York it always has been she's got a mayor who's a who's a lunatic and a governor whose who's an idiot yeah, and

17:43 And she is surrounded by New York media. Yes, exactly. So you can't walk outside or you can take a walk down the street if... You can have chicken wings! You can do anything without being inundated with this negative... I mean New York is like a test tube for this. Just that The New York Times and it's bullshit and the New York Daily News, most of the Trump haters we don't even bring them up into conversation much Everyone trying to maybe elect Biden and you're surrounded by this in New York, and everybody I know in New York is borderline nuts. Yes, I was gonna say Tom Starkweather, you know Tom? He's been holed up in New York with his partner Alexandra

18:30 And it's so bad right now, he says all people when New Yorkers are outside all they talk about is the nut job you know restaurant policies. The housing prices it's so bad he had to make a mix and what is a restaurant? What is a bar? What is food? Where you can eat what you can't eat It's that, that's really showing how nutty it is and the mainstream including probably your New York media. New York One would be a great would be the worst I'm thinking is the city with the worst death toll is lauded as the best performer and if you look at Texas in Florida on the list of just match it up against countries we're down like 25

19:18 And with New York, number one more than... that's per million people. So, and we're the idiots. And look at us! I mean this is all political and you're right Slack needs to be given because you are being played You are being programmed We'll have several instances in this show when it comes to big pharmaceutical industries and the Chinese why you were either not being informed or misinformed Because the mainstream media is just shutting up about some of the most important things happening right now and taking you right back down the fear porn path And they're good at it, and it's happening everywhere. In the UK... Oh my god! End of the world almost end of the world

20:01 Boris Johnson, apparently testing is up. Something is up in Spain So where did it? Where does everybody go when they live in the UK on the island They want to take their valuable pound and go over to invade Europe which has never been able to do invade Europe and You know and be Brits on the beaches of Portugal and Spain and Greece etc well now because of the horrible uptick All of a sudden Boris Johnson says, oh you have to... when you come back you have to quarantine self-quarantine for two weeks. And the Brits who haven't gone yet are incredibly pissed off and why? Because they're testing more than doing their ramping up the test is the same exact same

20:51 rollout that the media is doing there. Masks are now mandatory in almost every single country, my nephew has sent me a note yesterday says oh man they're talking second wave they're talking shutdown that's in the Netherlands we're being played it's obvious the numbers don't add up Well, they definitely are contradictory. The numbers were given from one source or another are slanted in weird ways to use a lot of percentage thing that report that you did with growth was a good example. You've got a little area that's got small hospital and apparently nobody can

21:33 You're in the middle of you're in a part of Texas, and I guess is so far away from every single Metropolitan area the entire state that you can't move them to another hospital. They've got airlifts going already you have you can all you've got you know no it's death panel not possible It's not possible. There's gonna die at home and This kind of thing is out of control and it's just continuing for the purposes of electing Joe Biden. Now, I don't care what yes people that we never said COVID does exist It's a lab creation so it's impossible to deal with and I Have no evidence to the contrary that it's not allowed creation except for the one letter to the editor then went through one of the magazines which we discussed before

22:18 And so this thing is created by the Chinese or in conjunction with us. Yeah, I believe possibly There's none of this is provable but it's just here you can you can deconstruct and see Here's the here's a thing that concerns me and this was Ted Ross on Friday So Ted Ross is the non doctor who calls himself? Dr. Ted Ross the shill in the World Health Organization and he gave his little speech. I just took the first minute and 20 seconds, you know get the idea very quickly where he's pushing all of this towards. Good afternoon and good evening. He is the most important man in the world, which is why you need to address every time zone more than 15 million cases of COVID-19 have now been reported to WHO and almost 620 thousand days how many days as we have said previously

23:11 Political leadership and community engagement are the two vital pillars of the response. So it's not about testing, not about vaccines therapeutics... It's leadership! Again, leadership! One of the tools governments can use is the law. The law? Not to coerce but to protect health while protecting human rights. Yesterday WHO, the United Nations Development Programme UNDP and Georgetown University launched the COVID-19 law lab. Since you probably can't understand what he's saying... No! They launched in conjunction with uh was it uh Washington George Washington University? They launched the Law Lab so there's a lab for law the Law Lab

24:04 database of laws that countries have implemented in response to the pandemic. It includes state of emergency declarations, quarantine measures, disease surveillance legal measures relating to mask wearing and physical distancing and access to medication and vaccines. So what they've done is they are now helping everyone, saying well look if you need a law for masks just come to the lab law it's pre-written! You can just plug it right into your own little constitution whatever you want we're here for you Well designed laws can help build strong health systems evaluate and approve safe and effective drugs and vaccines

24:48 and enforce actions to create healthier and safer public spaces and workplaces. They're not going to get this far as they like. Not this time around, that's for sure. Oh but they keep taking shots at it! Shots on goal! That's how you finally get your score Well let me tell you where the scary shot came from me One of our EMT... no I'm not sure exactly where he works Sent me the newest ICD-10 codes Are you familiar with the ICD 10 codes?

25:34 No, oh yeah I know that what you're talking about is 10-4 or 10-22. No no no! That's the ten codes ICD-10 is the tenth revision of the International Statistical Classification of Disease and Related Health Problem so it's an international code for every single ailment and treatment therefore so that there's no confusion if it's an ICD 10 you know code that is says something then that's going to be standardized across the world this comes from the WHO they publishes... And this is done for the purposes of billing? Billing, distribution and for your patient record.

26:16 And so our producer sent me the new codes that have just been added to the ICD-10. and I will just, yeah. I don't need to give you all the actual codes but i'll tell you what they mean so there's one code for has immunity to COVID-19 virus one high priority for COVID 19 virus vaccination So this would be attached to you You would get this code which means you have a priority to get the vaccine There is a code if you have the history of 2019 novel coronavirus disease that would be antibodies But then there's also virus not detected, virus test result equivocal, virus test result unknown, virus vaccination contradicted.

27:09 Virus vaccination... Contraindicated. I'm sorry, thank you. Contraindicated? What does that mean contraindicated? Means you can't mix it's like this drug is contraindicated if you're taking that drug Oh okay and then my favorite is COVID-19 virus vaccination declined so that will be on your record if you decline to have it That stinks! Yes there's also a vaccination not done and vaccination not available Yeah, that does. So you know the records belong to you? You can take pull those records and just bury them sure of course yeah I know it's like You know we didn't do a head eclipse is gone. I've just come with couple shows ago We should mention it just as we're going to discuss just a little bit more Now that they've been looking at blood tests over the last six or seven months

28:03 just random blood tests, it's just the blood because people are getting their blood tests all the time. And they now think that half of the population has COVID antibodies. I believe is probably true and then well... Now the other thing is that doesn't get discussed, I've noticed is that COVID, which is related to the cold... you know just a common cold this time of year in particular. This is summer colds or COVID. Yep. Or coronaviruses. Similar and they haven't been discussing a number of factors about it. You can't for example there is no vaccine against the coronavirus that causes the common cold? No

28:48 They've not been able to make one. They can't make one, does anyone actually honestly think they're going to make one for this? It's a coronavirus you can't make a vaccine against it doesn't seem to respond and secondly which they have stopped talking about they started...they talked about it a couple months ago they don't talk about it anymore I don't know why they're doing this I mean the media makes these decisions at the editorial level You catch the common cold a lot. You don't catch it once, you catch it again and again and again. That's the nature of the coronavirus. Some people don't catch it at all but some people catch it all the time Yeah, so is that gonna be the same thing? I mean that's what they were talking about earlier if you remember we're talking about I think it over and over and over. I think that's why you're seeing Gates and Fauci backpedaling a little first of all And now almost I'm semi convinced The president is gaslighting and he said oh It's gonna be great We're gonna have a vaccine very soon because he knows it's not going to come and He just wants to show them all what failures they are That may fit into some strategy that I'm looking at but that is possible

29:49 He certainly can't actually believe that's going to happen. And I would say, considering how smart I think he is, that's pretty dumb and they're now saying well it may be 50% efficacy you'll probably have to take one booster maybe next year and of course it's just another flu shot as what they make in another damn flu shot only a little more urgency behind this one. And you got some cool codes Well, with Trump I kind of agree because you know at one point he always has to remember he's not a trusting person. No and he's sounding real confident about this oh yeah vaccines great it's great so he's not a trusting person that way has so many family members in very close confidants working with him He does eventually trust people like Mnuchin I think he trusts right to the limit Yeah And Wilbur probably but

30:48 The rest of everyone else that works for him is like, you know, show me what you can do and then you get fired and you get replaced. Like crazy which is a management style people always like to condemn him for But so you might be right. Maybe he just thinks he's gaslighting everybody, it's possible. And he always falls back to say but the therapeutics I'm really excited about the therapeutics and what he always says remdesivir it really means hydroxychloroquine even Newsweek had a big story about how effective hydroxychloroquine was. I thought it was going to fall off my chair I know you have a couple of clips, maybe just since we're talking about the vaccine. I thought it was pretty funny Gates was on with Bill Gates Dr.. Bill was on with Anderson Cooper and Sanjay Gupta And I think the idea of the segment Was to tell everybody not to listen to conspiracy theorists who are saying horrible and fake news things about dr. Bill

31:51 But it kind of turned into, and it was very weird. And starts off with Pooper with this intro you know... It's obvious they want everyone to believe in the vaccine and that's why Bill is there but I just think it took a weird turn here's Anderson Cooper setting it up. It's three of them on the box Dr. Bill, Anderson Cooper and Sanjay Gupta A picture of that showed up calling them medical experts which Which I had to tweet that it was so hilarious because i don't think Anderson Cooper or Dr. Bill are actual medical experts, but let's have a listen to the intro The top 10 videos that spread lies about you had almost 5 million views It's also pointed out that according to Zignal Labs which is a media analysis company that tracks this Misinformation about use the most widespread of all coronavirus falsehoods So there's a conspiracy theory- Wait wait! I missed the premise What?

32:47 The premise is about conspiracy theories. No, but can you just start it over? Right so he's talking about how many videos of conspiracy minded videos of Bill Gates are online and... Oh I get it! It's about Bill Gates. Yeah it's about Bill but that's what I'm saying. Start it over for me please. You got it. The top 10 videos that spread lies about you had almost 5 million views. It's also pointed out that according to Zignal Labs which is the media analysis company that tracks this misinformation about you is the most widespread of all coronavirus falsehoods. So there's a conspiracy theory that one of our viewers asked about, I just want to play that sound. What would you say to the fringe portions of the public like conspiracy theorists seem to think that you're somehow responsible for the outbreak?

33:38 This is so good. I love it! Let's bring in some audience, it'll look really authentic There's also a conspiracy theory that you're pushing vaccines because you're going to inject people with the tracking device when they get the vaccine as all part of a so-called globalist plot to control the world uh... acute and on the coast you know which actually group has been targeting me as well as well they're claiming to a slave that i'm somehow connection jeffrey epstein in global kabbalah's of sex traffickers it's insane what do you think people who believe that there is an insurance why did he have to throw that in my second to deal with any of us was interesting about these three clips is he keeps talking about himself and then comes back to himself he's very

34:23 And I did look at the manifest, you know. I don't think Anderson Cooper is indeed on the Jeffrey Epstein flight manifest Nobody may be in the testimony and in the documents that they're going to release. I know the unsealed testimony. Well, let's finish here. Leads with that for this question. I'm somehow connected with Jeffrey Epstein and global Kabbalists of sex traffickers It's insane what do you say to people who believe this stuff now? He's asking the guy who actually was he's asking the guy who was on the jet, I think six or seven times Maybe even more even after he was convicted so pooper is bringing this up

35:16 Because somehow he feels some kinship with Bill and I think he's hoping for Bill to debunk it or something because Anderson is being targeted. This is his problem. Well, hold on a second. How about the other idea? Okay which is that Anderson is warning bill No, let's go through the clips and we'll see. The Epstein and Global Kabbalists of sex traffickers it's insane what do you say to people who believe this stuff because I mean i'm sure you are inundated by-I am by people direct messaging me just insane stuff Okay so that's his intro more about him really than Bill more about him than vaccines but let's let Bill get to it. I did take out some pauses edited here and there I took out a couple of the ehhhh

36:05 You can actually see his in a waveform. It looks like an exacto knife is very interesting here we go yeah the combination of having social media spreading things that are very titillating to have this pandemic where people are uncertain and you you know, they prefer to have a simple explanation. It's meant that these things are really millions of messages a day and people like myself and Dr Fauci become the target often the clever thing they do our foundation has given more money to buy vaccines to save lives than any group

36:46 So you just turn that around, you say okay we're making money and trying to kill people with vaccines by inventing something. What part did not make sense that he just said there? I mean yeah! All of it And at least its true were associated with vaccines but you actually sort of flipped the connection that we have there You know, I hope it doesn't create vaccine hesitancy. I hope this whole story of innovation that's going on that we do get the benefit of that. It's really the only good news I'm bringing you today is that the diagnostic therapeutic and vaccine innovation these amazing private sector companies without the coordination who would have liked but they are doing it. Oh, you hear that? Because

37:35 I think the company that is out of the gate first is not part of the Gavi Alliance. So, that's why he slips in the well wasn't without the coordination we would have liked because it didn't get to coordinate it because it was the Germans. Without the coordination you would have like but they are doing it And I do think people on the therapeutic side will be surprised. And, you know these are well-meaning people and this is a time where people are doing great work and so I hope the conspiracy stuff dies down it's really... The numbers kind of blow my mind! It's not just the fringe people that you would normally think of. Oh! It's not just the fringe people?

38:23 So I detect a little bit of fear. What was that about? Well, let's see... because it's not just the French people he thinks that there are other people who are what he says vaccine hesitancy That's a nice word. It is also going to surprise the therapeutic people I have no idea what he meant by that, but let us play the last clip and maybe we will learn more. So is it insane if Tom Hanks went by himself? Without you, is then not insane or just because you were with him.

39:11 Um, what do you see? But this is Bill. He's got no you've nailed this he has got some C seriously worried six bucks and Bill Gates will refer to him at the end of this clip Tom Hanks or I mean just just insane crazy stuff What are you I mean Do you think I know internet companies are looking at this? Do you wish that they would play a role in taking stuff down please delete the stuff that says I'm evil since demonstrably false Because I mean it does have real world impact on vaccines or a nut showing up to a pizza parlor in Washington, D.C., with the gun. Yeah in some cases they are taking things down.

39:57 It's a bad combination of pandemic and social media. Because you can't control the messaging, Bill! That's why it's a bad combination. A pandemic and social media people looking for very simple explanation who is the bad guy here? And lot that has been connected to politics more in US than in other locations. Bullshit. And of course vaccines weren't popular with everybody even before this all started. So I'm a big believer in getting the truth out, but it's kind of not as titillating to say Cooper is innocent.

40:43 Why does he bring it back to Cooper? Cooper is innocent. I think what Bill is saying is, bro you're in the same boat as me listen. It's kind of not as titillating to say Cooper is innocent. Oh, well you know that's not as exciting you don't forward that to quite as many people as you do the acquisition. I think Bill was just saying eh? Why did Anderson not say why your name was also on the flight log

41:23 It's not like he doesn't know this. They're talking to Gupta and Gates about vaccines, and Anderson Cooper keeps coming back to his role in the Epstein affair. This is really bad! It's bad if you got something to hide which I don't know man... Cooper feels nobody knows what she said did the thing that's coming out we have some clips about this I fight. They have a series of clips about this specific thing Oh good Yeah, I got the whole thing I gotta if I get very good report from ABC that discusses What's gonna happen how it's gonna happen and what is going to happen with the people that are the John Doe? Is that are gonna be named right and It's very interesting And I think Coopers freaked out because he thinks he's one of them

42:10 And there's a hundred of them. There's 100 of them. We'll play that after we're done with this, but meanwhile it says... We kind of slipped away from COVID I want to play something that is kinda on topic We'll go back to COVID, but I want to play this. This is a long clip, but this is Jordan Peterson who...this is from somebody unearthed this hour and a half discussion with this horrible woman from GQ magazine in London of the British version. Now, is this old? Is this new or old? No it's from 2019, I think maybe it may even be from earlier maybe for 2018, but it's within last two years

42:53 And it was, I've never seen it before. I've seen most of the stuff and he is just mad at her and he's just giving a tort but in the middle of it he goes on a kind of sidebar discussing Twitter that I thought, which is the social network that causes these same problems. And this is...I don't think this is complete because it's not a sociological study but it's a clip that's worth listening to because it gives us a little more insight or at least some thoughts and also kind of explained away the reason why I kind of stopped posting on Twitter. Show obviously notices for the show, but I don't I don't go back and forth on it because it's just a waste of my time But let's listen to Jordan Peterson. There is a strange social network. I've kind of pulled myself away from it so It's not an easy place to conduct yourself with as much grace as you might And I think it's it sort of rewards impulsivity because it's

43:48 Maybe it's because of the constraint on characters or something like that. So I think that... people tend to show their worst on Twitter and some of that's a consequence of the structure, the technology. I think I certainly agree with you. That is something we agree on there. People are rarely at their best on Twitter. No! And I pulled myself away from it quite a lot in the last month mostly for...to see why? You know, I kind of kept an eye on Twitter all the social media networks for the last few years partly to see well, I'm trying to monitor

44:24 What's happening around me I suppose is probably the right way of thinking about it and to see if i'm making mistakes And how they might be rectified but I don't think Twitter's been good for me and i don't think it's, I don't think the reply function on twitter is useful and I think that fact that so many people on twitter are anonymous is not a good thing at all. Do you think you'd be less angry if you weren't on Twitter? That something I think quite alot. I would come into contact with less things which annoyed me on daily basis Oh, I think there's no doubt about that. Yeah yeah, I think that's definitely the case and i've talked to other people who have pulled back from Twitter and experienced the same thing. I don't know what it is exactly but there's something about Twitter that seems to really heighten the desire of people to be provocative

45:17 Only people who are feeling irritable Respond, you know We don't know you know like if you put up a post and a thousand people read it Certainly a thousand people. Don't respond a few people respond well Maybe maybe it skews way over to those people who had a bad day Like we have no idea right because it's a communication channel that No one understands. We're not evolved to understand it, we're not evolved to use it and we don't-we can't interpret it plus you're interacting with random strangers which is something you never ever do and It's never the same set of random strangers And you don't react to Twitter like its random strangers You react to Twitter like it's a person that you know! ...and...it isn't Why doesn't he just say that being on social media is basically a psychotic activity?

46:04 It is! It's a psychotic activity. He's working on it Oh my goodness, yeah Do you want to do any more COVID stuff? Yes I do, I wanna do some more COVID stuff because I got clips They're working COVID every which way now Let's try couple of quickies COVID immigration. This is relating to COVID immigration, this is on Democracy Now!, of course. In immigration news... two whistleblowers at an ICE prison in Louisiana have revealed officers have knowingly deported immigrants who had temperatures as high as 103 degrees Fahrenheit and likely had COVID-19 by deceptively covering up their symptoms. Under ICE policy, immigrants with temperatures above 99 degrees Fahrenheit cannot be deported but one of the whistleblowers says staff was instructed to blast an air conditioner to quote freeze them out so sick immigrants could pass a temperature check in order to be deported

45:17 Only people who are feeling irritable Respond, you know We don't know you know like if you put up a post and a thousand people read it Certainly a thousand people. Don't respond a few people respond well Maybe maybe it skews way over to those people who had a bad day Like we have no idea right because it's a communication channel that No one understands. We're not evolved to understand it, we're not evolved to use it and we don't-we can't interpret it plus you're interacting with random strangers which is something you never ever do and It's never the same set of random strangers And you don't react to Twitter like its random strangers You react to Twitter like it's a person that you know! ...and...it isn't Why doesn't he just say that being on social media is basically a psychotic activity?

46:04 It is! It's a psychotic activity. He's working on it Oh my goodness, yeah Do you want to do any more COVID stuff? Yes I do, I wanna do some more COVID stuff because I got clips They're working COVID every which way now Let's try couple of quickies COVID immigration. This is relating to COVID immigration, this is on Democracy Now!, of course. In immigration news... two whistleblowers at an ICE prison in Louisiana have revealed officers have knowingly deported immigrants who had temperatures as high as 103 degrees Fahrenheit and likely had COVID-19 by deceptively covering up their symptoms. Under ICE policy, immigrants with temperatures above 99 degrees Fahrenheit cannot be deported but one of the whistleblowers says staff was instructed to blast an air conditioner to quote freeze them out so sick immigrants could pass a temperature check in order to be deported

47:04 it. The U.S. continued to deport thousands of people despite their symptoms, contributing to a rapid spread of COVID-19 in Central America and Haiti. The whistleblowers work at the privately run Richwood Correctional Center in Louisiana where at least 69 people have tested positive two guards have died mother Jones reports the whistleblowers also alleged La Salle Corrections the private prison company that runs Richwood prohibited staff from wearing protective protective personal equipment, forced guards who likely had COVID-19 to work while awaiting their test results and regularly exposed healthy prisoners to people who had been exposed. I'm very disappointed in this report from Amy. I think she could have at least added not that they're deporting since they're putting these people with 103 degree temperature in cages

47:51 And then freezing them out. That would have been better! Come on... The thing that got me in that report was, it's like one of these jokes where there is this one word out of place and the word in this case was Haiti Yeah Are we getting people down the southern border coming from Haiti? How does that work?! They're swimming It doesn't make any sense I think since the earthquake there still a open visa So the people of Haiti are allowed to come to United States and just hang out? Well, that doesn't... it's not the same group.

48:28 Yes, I think this was very poorly done. Let's see what she has a good job of pumping the numbers to let's play COVID cases doubles. It doubles everybody nationwide The number of confirmed COVID-19 cases has topped 4 million as the number of cases has doubled over the past six weeks You know it's so interesting that they just keep pushing it most people have kind of figured out like okay? I mean Yeah, the cases have doubled but it's just not the same. It doesn't feel the same I think the numbers don't look the same they just keep pushing... The deaths haven't doubled? No! You've got to throw in the end somewhere a five-year old child died in Texas. I mean just say anything like that oh man we're in trouble this is massive mind control on

49:21 And here's the last report I have. Here is this and I'm not sure where this came from, just from last show COVID cases low on Tuesday. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention revealed the actual number of coronavirus infections nationwide may be 24 times higher than the public count. This comes as the Trump administration imposing more federal funding for covid-19 testing. The White House has refused to spend up to eight billion dollars already allocated for testing even though many states and cities face severe testing shortages. And this, the testing shortages it's the same over and over again I just don't see how it's true what shortage? It's like from time to time I hear on MSNBC them still saying not enough PPE are you kidding me now

50:16 It's really, this is just... I think that they're going all out. They're trying to stretch it to November! Yeah Germany braces for second wave amid rising infections. I thought Germany did everything perfectly? They're perfect! Because it was run by a woman Yes women do much better Mask update I can tell you, I'm seeing the writing on the wall that bandanas and scarves and neck gaiters will be outlawed pretty soon. Oh no! The neck gaiter? Yeah, I'm seeing local stories... I haven't even gotten mine yet and it's gonna be outlawed. Well unfortunately, the Disney store is- Only outlaws wear neck gaiters That's why we like it The Disney store refused one of our producers entry They did offer him a different mask

51:08 What? They offered him a cloth mask. So if you walk in with the mask they don't like, they'll give you free masks at the Disney Store? Yeah apparently. Let's go! Need a mask?! Yeah, that's a good one. Need a mask? Just walk on in! Let me see... do I have anything else here...? No, otherwise there is some organization whose non-profit one of our producers has been looking into masks for all hashtag masksforall they're pushing they got about $400,000 to push masks tell everybody we should have masks everywhere all the time when you outside just as standard fare

51:55 And did I have anything? Oh yes, see on the vaccine side we have Xi Jinping writing a thank you letter to Bill Gates for doing such a fabulous job. I guess they're trying to combat some kind of bad information about Bill and i'm seeing a lot more of the what's plan B as the press is now, you know they don't really have any more news to work with. So this is running out of material! They're running out so well vaccine when's the vaccine coming that kind of you know that vaccine like oh it's exciting it's not exciting nothing's gonna happen for months and months and months if ever as we already discussed something did happen yesterday I just want to get this out of the way now because I think it's it's an enormous thing that happened

52:48 money-wise for American citizens, it was not only Not covered. It's expected not to be covered and yeah yesterday when I was watching the announcement Even Fox News, I don't think MSNBC and CN were carrying it live Fox News cut away From the president that the minute he started to give the details of what was actually going on And there were I know if you heard about it because it wasn't really reported Four executive orders that the president announced and signed yesterday. Did you even hear about this? Of course not! Four executive orders of massive magnitude that I

53:32 I think is a game changer which makes sense why none of the channels would carry it. The reason why Fox News cut out at the moment, it became clear what was going on and went straight to COVID coverage unfortunately...I didn't get any of that. I was just too astounded by boom they were gone is because it was about the pharmaceutical industry, more importantly drug prices. And I learned an incredible amount about the scam that's been going on for 30 years which the president has changed for at least until November and i think that's why he has several different

54:11 executive orders, the one two and three. And then the fourth one he might or might not sign but the minute it came down to the numbers, the savings, the American consumers of pharmaceuticals... The minute that number was announced everyone who was carrying it cut away Of course we can't have that with all the advertising money come from the entire industry but certainly also the insurance industry who is really the bad actor in this, only going to focus on the back door of the insurance industry. So it doesn't look like they're the assholes but let's get into the first executive order the president announced yesterday and I can tell you exactly where Fox News even cut out

54:59 The four orders I'm signing today will completely restructure the prescription drug market in terms of pricing and everything else to make these medications affordable and accessible for all Americans. The first order will require federal community health centers to pass the giant discounts they receive from drug companies on insulin and EpiPens directly to their patients, you know? Insulin became so expensive people weren't able to use it. They desperately needed it We have it to a level that you're not going to believe EpiPens likewise, You've been reading horrible stories about EpiPens over the last six seven years Horrible horrible horrible increases where they went from almost nothing to massive amounts of money we're changing that right now These providers should not be receiving discounts for themselves while charging their poorest patients

55:52 Massive fall prices under this order. The price of insulin for affected patients will come down to just pennies a day, pennies a day. This is where Fox News cut out boom. They were gone back to covid-19 we've got problems in Texas I wish I'd clipped it was so obvious they had to go away the minute he says hey the price going to come down to pennies a day for affected patients will come down to just pennies a day, pennies a day from numbers that you weren't even able to think about. It's a massive cost savings." So this is obviously to get seniors on board and vote for him and the mechanism that's being used is interesting I believe somehow when the Supreme Court issued the order that Trump could not deport DACA kids

56:48 There was some Supreme Court ruling and they said, okay you can't do that or not in this manner. And I remember him tweeting and yapping about how incredibly important this was because now the executive order power had just become that much stronger by an exponential number And what he's doing here is cutting out the middleman going directly and this is only for these two medications, but they're the ones that have been most associated with outrageous drug costs for the EpiPens and For insulin in Sun yet people coming up later with you know horrible sob stories They have to take shitty insulin that they can afford because a good insulin. It's too expensive for them

57:32 Now we go to the second executive order. This is something that he promised years ago, and I guess some states have already been working on it with him. He's going to laud DeSantis of Florida for this but this is allowing states to go direct The second executive order I'm signing this afternoon will allow state wholesalers and pharmacies to do something other politicians have promised for decades and decades but never done They never delivered We will finally allow the safe and legal importation of prescription drugs from Canada and other countries where the price for the identical drug is incredibly lower. It's a difference like you wouldn't believe 70 percent, 80 percent 90 percent 30 percent

58:20 But massively lower than the identical drug made in the same plant, the same factory. The same exact drugs, same everything, same box, same pill and yet it's 50 60 70 percent lower? Bernie is what Bernie was all over this. This is what gets me every single time, it's like this is exactly what other candidates have been yapping about and he just of course it's an executive order It can go away the minute Joe Biden is president I'm sorry the minute his vice president is president, they can just cut it out obviously. But this is exactly what everyone was complaining about. And yet its 50 60 70 percent lower? Man this is something that Ron and I have been discussing from the time Ron got elected and I've been wanting to do it

59:10 a long time from a legal standpoint and we've got it all worked out. So this, you know there were laws for 30 years pretty much maybe longer there have been laws on the book that forbid you know it's... The whole insurance market, the pharmaceutical market is very anti-competitive They have regions, states just can't go and do a deal with another state. Your insurance carrier can't operate in all states it's all divvied up it's a huge cartel. It's a scam! Well it's a rigged system and this third executive order is a doozy I

59:47 I really had no idea that this was going on or how this works. And now that i've looked into it, It's the big secret. The American people pay an average of over three times more for medicine than the Canadians Many people go to Canada...I see it all the time They go to Canada and buy drugs then they come back prescription drugs because they save so much money. The trip is well worth it I'm unrigging the system that is many decades old we're doing something that should have been done a long time ago the third revolutionary order I'm signing today will prevent middle men and women, I guess

1:00:25 But you've heard about the middleman, right? The middleman that makes so much money nobody knows who they are. Nobody has any idea who they are! They make more money perhaps than even the drug companies themselves and the drug companies in all fairness to them big pharma And then they're doing a great job on the vaccines You're doing a great job and therapeutics I can tell you because I deal with him a lot but I think their middlemen make more money than they do it They don't do much Okay So before I finish that clip I found a short instructional video what the middlemen do and the middleman have a name. They're called pharmacy benefit managers, i'd never heard of this but the pharmacy benefit managers are essentially a data project, a data warehouse who sit in between your insurance company and

1:01:11 the drugs that you need. And they manage everything, they manage how much you're getting, they manage the shipment, they manage your profile and they also manage the buying so if they can buy in... The idea is they buy in bulk there now they put down big sums of money with guarantees and then they take a 2% fee at 2% fee and then send the bill to your insurance company So they buy the drugs on one hand in bulk, they manage everything. They get the prescriptions that it's the whole operation there which really is nothing more than buying and selling they take 2% fee and then pass that on to your insurance company so you think that you would be paying 100 percent plus two percent 102 percent for the same medication that their buying

1:02:04 There, unfortunately are at least four scams. I have three of them here this is just quick explanations the first one is the rebate scam. Spread game. Tom... I'm sorry the spread the spread scam that's that's the first one where is it yeah a spread game Tom just had his prescription filled at the local pharmacy, for which your PBM paid a total of $10. However, your PBM invoice reflects a $100 charge for that same drug in addition to its two-dollar administrative fee. Therefore you pay a total of one hundred two dollars resulting in a net of ninety two dollars retained by the PBM for managing that particular prescription

1:02:45 PBM represents the drug costs paid to the pharmacy as being $100, not the actual paid amount of ten dollars allowing PBM to retain the extra ninety dollars without its clients awareness. I'd say that's kind of scammy. A $10 drug and they're pumping 92% or $92 on top of that The second scam is the repackaging scam, uh...I think this is what Express Scripts does. The PBM pushes your health plan and Tom to their mail-order pharmacy by offering you deeper discounts and or elimination of the administrative fee, and offering Tom to reduce or eliminate his co-pays. Because the PBM repackages the drug they can now arbitrarily assign a new AWP price of its own choosing with no obligation to inform the health plan For example

1:03:43 The Lipitor prescription at a retail pharmacy costs AWP $441 minus the 15% discount plus a two dollar administrative fee equals 376.85 When repackaged and re-priced, the same medication ends up costing AWP 684 dollars minus 20 percent discount plus zero dollar administrative fee that equals 547.20 Mail order pharmacy cost the health plan $170.35 more than the same drug dispensed by a local pharmacy And then, the final one that at least I thought was interesting was the rebates The rebate game Tom's Health Plan won't pay for his twenty dollar generic anti-acid prescription but will pay for Nexium The 148 brand name drug for the same concern

1:04:36 The PBM pays the pharmacy the $148, with ten dollars of a fifty dollar total drug manufacturer rebate going to Tom's Health Plan and the remaining forty dollars returning to the PBM. This arrangement costs Tom's Health Plan one hundred thirty-eight dollars instead of the twenty dollars for the generic drug So those are the scams and you know when you start reading about there's not a lot of information You'd be surprised about these PBMs or pharmacy by the way I want to mention this These kinds of scams, and there's lots of it And it ended up there's one little other element especially in that first scam where the guy gets 2% of this little of this of the drug price is that

1:05:21 If you start doubling and tripling the drug price, the 2% becomes a lot more money. Yeah but the two percent is just a joke! The 2% is a joke? It's kind of a joke... But 2%, I remember when they were doing testimony years ago Blue Cross came out in front of California State Legislature and that woman was testifying said all we do All we do is and it's always two percent. All we do is make two percent bullshit We hardly do anything, we just make 2% but the thing is that the 2% of the billion dollars in profits Is a lot of money But then they everything gets jacked up and hijacked Doubled and tripled The 2% of 10 billion dollars is quite a bit of money This is so rich You're missing one

1:06:11 The 2% is nothing. They're buying the drug for 10... No, I understand that the 2% is just icing on the cake Yeah it's 800%. 800%, in some cases So Trump put the kibosh on this I tell you because they deal with them a lot But I think their middlemen make more money than they do and don't do much Maybe they don't do anything Some people say they don't do anything Nobody even knows who they are But the middlemen are making a fortune and pharmacy benefit managers and people are just bilking Medicare patients with these high drug prices. Bilking the government? Pocket gigantic discounts, gigantic discounts. Hold on a second stop!

1:06:58 The other element in this, he says they're not really bilking Medicare patients. No it's bilking- It's Medicare fraud the way I see it. That's exactly the way I see it! If I have Medicare, I go in and pay my 10 bucks or whatever is for a $200 prescription you see on there they say that the price 200 bucks oh Jesus good deal but I'm not the one paying the rest of it its the government yes the taxpayers Yes And I see it as fraud It's like another 45 seconds of the clip, but it's important to understand how we got here because this was all locked down. It's almost like the performing rights organizations only these people can you could only buy from the approved pharmacy benefit manager? They're the only ones it's all segregated and why have these laws never changed because all that's new is take 10% of all this bonus money they're making and put it into campaigns

1:07:55 and Bob's your uncle. Nobody wants to change that, it's a groovy system and all I want to know...I really want to know who these pharmacy benefit managers are Trump says he doesn't know them because they should be tarred and feathered! Locked up! Well they pocket gigantic discounts, gigantic discounts the amount of money they have made over the decades is too incredible even to speculate or say It's massive. Some very rich people are not going to like me very much today, I can tell you. I probably know them very well. I probably see them in Palm Beach but nobody ever talks about who they are everyone and I hear the middleman for years the middlemen right Alex? And he doesn't know who they are either but he knows their rich

1:08:45 And they're not going to be so rich anymore because the money is going down to reduce the price of drugs, prescription drugs. That's a big thing. That's a tremendous step it should have been taken a long time ago but they have a great deal of power and I don't have to tell you how many phone calls i've had in the last few days when they heard i was going to be doing this. I've heard from people that I haven't spoken to in a long time So this is such a double whammy because the insulin and the EpiPen, that will affect people's pockets immediately. This other... The third executive order with the PBMs that kind of should be rolling out September-October but just think about it! This is exactly I mean it's hitting two of Bernie's points. The cost of it and fucking the rich people

1:09:39 I mean he might as well just go, hey and be Bernie. Only it's a solution that is not Medicare for all which of course would only mean more in the pockets of these people and the politicians that support the legislation that protects them and he just did away with it and you wonder why it wasn't reported on? Because that would clinch it for him. The seniors, all the old people... And just because you said you had a prescription with Medicare I think you'll see the difference- You don't have insulin do ya? No. EpiPen? No but y'know everyone should have an EpiPen around their house. You get bit by a bee some- You don't know if somebody's not allergic to bees stings It's a very good idea absolutely A bee sting could kill ya

1:10:30 Anyway, I thought it was fascinating to understand this. To learn about it and see that these executive orders are signed in place And I don't know, it should make a difference. Well they're gonna go after him if you think there... well the thing is he must have looked around and said look i'm way behind in the polls yeah of course that doesn't mean anything we know that for a fact and people haven't even seen Joe Biden! It's like putting a dog turd into office. The guy has about the same amount of intelligence but

1:11:07 He knows that the media has been pounding him, hounding him and pounding him. No he's not a leader is now this is not that well okay well let's go and do what they like to do with the right-wingers and go after their advertisers. Yeah exactly you guys feel that way? Okay good exactly so you like it Yeah, I thought that was like well okay. So they're gonna have to turn up the gas but they can't it's already at full steam and this really affects you know one specific group because this is just a money game it's the insurance companies see it's the...I think there are three huge PBMs and all split up into small little companies as very hard to track apparently

1:11:51 But it's the insurance companies, it's Wall Street. They just hedge risk and don't do anything else is push paper around and algos do the business of screwing you And he's coming in to disrupt that. I'm quite pleased with that and i think... Well you said there were four executive orders? Oh the fourth one which he will be signing if someone doesn't comply, and quite honestly I just lost track of time and couldn't quite figure out what the fourth one was but he threatened He is saying I may not have to do that one if everyone plays along so I am not sure it some kind of huge poison pill

1:12:27 There's no actual text yet, although I did see the... You don't even know what it is about. Yeah, yeah! I can tell you what it's about. I can tell you what it says. What is it about? Hold on a second. I'm going to tell you because believe it or not they have a very handy website where they tend to put this stuff up so here are your four executive orders executive order lowering prices for pain just by middlemen, life-saving drug importation and then where's the fourth one? The fourth one... Okay it's not on there so I don't know what the fourth one is. It was just a vague threat then. I thought he'd published it. So I only have those three. Yeah but I thought that was good. Just I love seeing the complete lack of coverage and this isn't this is a big deal

1:13:25 Even if they're looking at it not from a Chinese perspective just we hate Trump. You know, it's certainly or we can't have this guy doing anything good Nothing good for the Americans who agree jus Malfeasance by the media yes instead of that All we hear about is this as an example on MSNBC. He's setting precedence now and I think Mika was exactly right this morning when she raised the proper concerns, and the Wyden quote to me crystallizes it This is what would happen if you were a authoritarian president who was preparing to resist

1:14:05 a loss in the election. You would be saying the things Donald Trump is saying and you would be gradually rolling out federal police power into the states against the wishes of the mayors and governors in question this is how it would happen, this is how the movie would play out and anybody who's not looking at this with a state of alarm and concern and worried about is this president going to employ formally martial law point as Ron Wyden suggested yesterday, is that on the president's mind? Is there anybody having watched Donald Trump for the last three and a half years who doesn't think that Donald Trump would try to employ martial law if he thought it was the only way you could stay in power.

1:14:44 Man, why is that so deja vu? That's Heilman. He got a new gig he's on the Mika show and so he's trying to make us name for himself even though I think he's doing...he's screwing himself yeah that's nothing that's not oh that's nothing what you got Well, we go to democracy now. We bring in the bearded one gnome Chomsky Oh boy I guess they're pulling the emergency brake yeah, they're bringing in no chompski. Yeah, let's go president trump is his entire Attention as there's one issue on his mind that's the election he has to cover up for the fact that he's

1:14:05 a loss in the election. You would be saying the things Donald Trump is saying and you would be gradually rolling out federal police power into the states against the wishes of the mayors and governors in question this is how it would happen, this is how the movie would play out and anybody who's not looking at this with a state of alarm and concern and worried about is this president going to employ formally martial law point as Ron Wyden suggested yesterday, is that on the president's mind? Is there anybody having watched Donald Trump for the last three and a half years who doesn't think that Donald Trump would try to employ martial law if he thought it was the only way you could stay in power.

1:14:44 Man, why is that so deja vu? That's Heilman. He got a new gig he's on the Mika show and so he's trying to make us name for himself even though I think he's doing...he's screwing himself yeah that's nothing that's not oh that's nothing what you got Well, we go to democracy now. We bring in the bearded one gnome Chomsky Oh boy I guess they're pulling the emergency brake yeah, they're bringing in no chompski. Yeah, let's go president trump is his entire Attention as there's one issue on his mind that's the election he has to cover up for the fact that he's

1:15:33 personally responsible for killing tens of thousands of Americans. It's impossible to conceal that much longer, just compare the United States with Europe or even Canada it's becoming a pariah state to the point where Americans aren't even permitted to travel to Europe, Europe won't accept them chances of victory or depend on his doing something dramatic. He was trying very hard to set up military confrontations. You mentioned martial law, it's moving towards martial law. He might even be able to try and cancel the elections. It is not telling what he would do, he is completely desperate

1:16:30 This is like the actions of some tin pot dictator in a neo-colony somewhere, small country that has a military coup every couple of years. There's no historical precedent for anything like this in a functioning democratic society." This man should be ashamed of himself! Wow He's just funny coming out of his shell well needs to need to take some Adderall or something because that's a Worst so let's play it a little bit more play second part in the morning. No if he could know Blackshirts out in the streets, she'd be happy to do that and

1:17:15 exactly how this will eventually, it is very hard to say. The courts are unlikely to do anything We may even get to a point where the military command has to decide which side they're on. The man is desperate, he's psychotic He is in extreme danger of losing his position at the White House and do anything you can to prevent it Wow! I can't believe that...He proved to us

1:17:50 that he is not deranged because person, woman man camera TV. He does own chomps. That's got to be my favorite thing I've seen. Yeah it's very funny Chomsky as he saying he's willing to put the black shirts on the street they're showing clips of the actual anti-fob black shirts yeah they show a bunch of normal cops these cops these fed cop should dress in kind of camouflage picking up black, literally picking up black shirted guys all covered from head to toe with black off the streets and it's just like the contrast of what he says and what you witness is just like wait a minute. What? Yeah

1:18:37 Now there's one more, there is an optional third clip if you're not sick of this guy. I'll listen to more. The third clip though is really a long question asked by that alternate woman that's on Democracy Now! Who's the dour one, the dour Latinx type. And she's a... I've never seen her perc episode. One time there was a rock star on this show and she got all giddy and smiling and she's batting your eyes. It was pathetic to be honest about it but so she's asking this very long-winded question which is actually the main part of the clip and then he comes in and answers a little bit of it but you have to listen to her

1:19:20 heard discussion of his previous discussions. They have a Trump clip in there out of the blue, which kind of it's just very interesting. This is a very different kind of clip that is worth listening to. Professor Chomsky, I mean you've just said echoed the concerns of Senator Ron Wyden that we may be headed, The US maybe headed towards the imposition of martial law. You've just called Trump psychotic previously having referred him as a sociopath and pointed to the differences between, the massive differences between Biden and Trump when we had you on earlier this year saying about Biden that he's pretty empty. You can push him one way or another. And you've also said that this is the most crucial election in human history literally. Now if Fox News...

1:20:15 Let me hear what was so literal about that election in human history Empty you can push him one way or another And you've also said that this is the most crucial election in human history, literally. Now literally that's what he said or it's literally the most crucial? No no no he said it meaning that literally this next election with Joe Biden running against Donald Trump... In all of human history going back to the pharaoh This is the most important thing ever! We should pay attention to what he says then

1:20:53 Now, in a Fox News interview just on Sunday Trump refused to commit to accepting the outcome of the 2020 election. I don't like to lose it. I don't lose too often. But are you gracious? You don't know until you see it depends. voting is going to rig the election. I really do." Are you suggesting that you might not accept the results of the election? I have to see, look Hillary Clinton asked me the same thing. First of all he said mail-in voting might rig the whole thing. I don't think he said it would rig it for the Democrats. Now I want to stop here and say something I've mentioned on this show before

1:21:38 There were two recent elections that were done to replace some congressional members, and the Republicans won both of them. And these are mail-in elections. Yeah! I've said... yeah this is what you just said it's possible that Trumps gaslighting the process another... no we can't have, no no no no no. We can't anything but mail in elections because he already knows that whatever he suggests they do the opposite. Yeah! He's figured it out finally He figured it out. So the mail-in election may assure his landslide victory! The way he says it, he didn't do his hands like... It's horrible! It's really bad! And recall that in 2004 I think it was Florida was all jacked up because the Republicans want to do mail-in voting so

1:22:37 I'm just listening to what he the way he says it and to me, it's like uh-huh. Yeah He's got it figured out thing the outcome of the 2020 election. How about a good loser? I don't like to lose it. I don't lose too often. I don't like some pretty gracious You don't know until you see depends. I think mail in Voting is gonna rig the election. I really do yeah Are you suggesting that you might not accept the results of the election have to say look Hillary Clinton asked me the same thing. Could you comment on that and what your concerns are in the event, I mean you've just said that in fact the elections somehow could be cancelled? There are various maneuvers that theoretically they might undertake one might be to

1:23:24 try to throw the election, to refuse to accept the vote. To make sure that the Republican governors don't authorize their own electors this is routine and automatic but technically they could refuse could throw it into the house where there's enough Republicans in the house to essentially turn the election into a the kind of force that you find in a, as I said in some tinpot dictatorship. Oh brother! And now there's not enough Republicans in the House you idiot! No Senate doofus! Oh man that is...

1:24:13 How old is he? No, I told you it was a topper. Well let's just look at how this is playing out first of all I believe that this is an attempt at a color revolution black lives matter black as a color There are elements who are behind this certainly a lot of nonprofits, non-governmental organizations. I mean even Google! Hey Google is pushing BLM. I'm getting pictures from people just you just want to ask your google thing to do your google device to do something and already it's promoting Black Lives Matter and i think it was actually have this clip from black lives matter UK

1:24:54 Shall we listen and see? Hey, just so you know it's a global thing. And you'll see that the issues are all the same they really have nothing to do with ADOS American descendants of slavery It's pretty much everything that you'd expect even from a guy like Noam Chomsky Can't talk about black issues and LGBT issues and exclude them as if there something... I'm sorry set this up This is British kid noodle boy on stage addressing a crowd I think it's in London, and he is telling everybody what's up? What's going on? What we got to stand for and what Black Lives Matter has happened. We're doing! Can't talk about black issues and LGBT issues And exclude them as if they are some individual issue You need to be looking at this using intersectionality which is a word that you know is thrown around but what does it really mean It means recognizing there is one common enemy

1:25:49 The white man. Okay, so that at least is the same as one common enemy ladies and gentlemen it is the white man! And the systems that they use are capitalism patriarchy and fascism okay? So that is Trump basically... The systems the white man uses his patriarchy capitalism I wish these kids knew what the difference was between socialism, communism Marxism capitalism. They're not taught properly. They were created and perpetuated... They are not taught anything! Well they're taught something they're taught to spout this bullshit. ...capitalism patriarchy and fascism they were created and perpetuate by white men for white men in the interests of white men

1:26:34 Whose life matters at this point? There's a target on our heads. Now obviously fighting these issues and addressing them all requires different methods the way that you approach and change racism is going to be different than how you look at homophobia, And we understand that but you can't just be out fighting for your own issues We need to address the situation in Yemen The 20 million people, mostly children are living in extreme poverty and hunger malnutrition which has only been worsened by the coronavirus crisis. We need to look at Palestine recently I think it was like three days ago. It's always in there! Palestine is always in there and he has a little bit of code

1:27:15 showing his color. We need to look at Palestine recently I think it was like three days ago every map whether it's iPhone Android Google have removed Palestine from the maps so Palestine is still there okay? Palestine has not gone as much as Israel wants to take over everything, as much as America is funding them and that's an issue. Anti-Jewish anti-Israel anti-Semitic We need to address the fact that all of these groups of people, the issues they face it all comes from the same people. White men so we need to get rid of them. I mean how do you do that? Eat them? Kill the rich!

1:27:57 So there it is. Kill the rich, that's the solution! It's all white men who are doing this especially in the American cities run by black and brown Democrats so that's all white people I'm sure the white people are controlling them Sure. Yeah, yeah it's very abundantly clear to me. When we were looking at this and I we already did Patrice Cullors as co-founder of Black Lives Matter We've gone through her Marxist roots so we don't need talk about that but i found another couple of money trails that are interesting in regard to black lives matter because there are two other cofounders

1:28:36 Was it the Freedom Road Socialist Organization? Is that the one you thought that this was all stemming from have you heard of no I always think World's Workers Party Well, I'm sure its related to freedom road socialist organization They they have all the strategies. They have on their website which is F R s o dot well I was always thinking also the radical abolitionists movement. I think that's a ram I think that's all part of it The difference is these guys have the money And how interesting is it that Alicia Garza was executive director or board member of five different Freedom Road

1:29:18 fiscal sponsorships. Remember that's how this works, you get the foundation or the nonprofit it reports a 990 form it takes the money in for as an example The Black Lives Matter Foundation not the fund the foundation and they will give them money we don't know how much they're giving them we don't know really how much is coming in specifically for black lives matter and that's this fiscal sponsorship So Alicia Garza, one of the co-founders. This I think is the one who's the most interesting which of course is why she's not in the picture She was board chair of The Right Of The City Alliance School of Unity and Liberation that's Seoul. The important one is people organized to win employment rights

1:30:02 That is power and power, P-O-W-E-R is a group that included Van Jones. You know, a bunch of typical people you'd expect to be hanging around leftist issues and money the right to alliance city Alliance which she was the board member or executive chair of six and a half million dollars in the past couple years And this money comes from The Ford Foundation, 1.9 million. George Soros Open Society Foundation, 1.3 million. The Kellogg foundation 250 thousand and interestingly the Ben & Jerry's foundation is everywhere now it's only $30,000 but that's just for that one as the executive director of power POWR which Van Jones was a part of and still is a part of

1:30:54 That group received 1.3 million from the Ford Foundation as well, 600 thousand from Open Society from Soros 50 thousand from Ben and Jerry At the Seoul organization which is underneath this big one Garza claims to have trained 712 organizers but we know what those are from the last show these are people who go out and break stuff $210,000 from the Rockefeller Foundation. $255,000 from the Heinz Foundation, John Kerry and then we go to

1:31:32 the, let's see... The multiracial organization that works with leaders and organizers to transform culture and policy to catalyze social change. FRSO $4 million in 2014 So there is all this money flowing into this And you look at these kids on the street They got pretty nice gear on Tactical helmets, tactical jackets, tactical vests, tactical pants, boots They got all kinds of stuff And this is all before we ever find out, if we do how much money Apple Disney Nike all these corporations are sending to these groups that are I all i can see is training and sponsoring this mayhem everywhere now in Austin yesterday someone got shot and killed during a protest

1:32:28 Who was shot and killed, and who were they shot and killed by? I shall tell you. So there was a protest Black Lives Matter protests And they were marching through the street...and one of the protesters The protesters had AR-15 or might have been AK47 semi And he's walking along with the protesters, which is you know in Austin and Texas in general. You can do that as long as your handling it properly a Long gun as we call it that's allowed there's nothing against that and then at an intersection The protest crowd this is the way I've seen it from the video I've seen the protest crowd blocks in a car

1:33:11 And the car is like honking, like hey I you know it's a scary thing when you're blocked in by all these people. In especially the Black Lives Matter protest and so they wants to get out and so that people start surrounding this car The guy with the AK-47 walks up to the driver's window brandishing the weapon... ...and the driver shot and killed him! Hello? It's Texas you idiot Yes, I think the driver should have shot and killed him. He did! And you know so now we're everyone's it's raining like crazy here So i'm sure there'll be no protests at all but the whole city is kind of waiting You know what's gonna happen will they be outraged? I personally...I think all the kids are gonna stay home They've done it like oh okay. Well. I don't want to be a part of that people crazy here I agree with you That's why we have guns and it's so stupid

1:34:12 The first thing in Texas you know, is you don't go messing around brandishing your weapon in front of somebody. Because they probably have a gun too! Anyway so the story's being distorted and I'm sure it'll be crazy white supremacist who killed someone... whatever that's how it always goes Yeah well we'll see Hopefully they just let him go It's a little chance of that. But unfortunately, I mean in normal circumstances if somebody comes up to you with a brandishing gun like that threatening you and you shot him you wouldn't be even brought up on charges No!

1:34:52 So it's just... anyway, I think that's all. I don't have much else on Black Lives Matter. Well we got Noodle gone and we can do that later. Yeah now i have two things we can do okay uh i want to get i think the Maxwell story maybe i should do those three clips you wanna do that now? Okay! Yeah, but before we do that I do have an entremont because a lot of this is going on has a lot to Do with this clip. This is clips at the clip is elementary This is from the show that ended this year the elementary which I think when there's six or seven season and went it ended And this is near the end of it. You can get to hear some of the lousy acting, but it did have an element in that we enjoy hearing a lot and this is from the season ending when the third from the end show of the entire series

1:35:40 To look into this I can take it to someone. I know sees things my way problem solved Mr.. Conrad doesn't hurt anyone, and I know that you and I will never be friends But I think you'll say yes It's too good an opportunity to prove me wrong show me the faults in my methods What makes you so sure this guy is so dangerous? Mr.. Conrad has a podcast Dangerous I tell ya Okay, that's funny Like that wait I have one of my own. I have one of my own This is a message, I received from a very special friend of ours You're listening to no agenda with Adam Curry and John Dvorak Now sit back relax And get informed there you go God himself dropping by saying hi to us who did that one? Well? I know who did it Morgan Freeman

1:36:37 So let's go to... Thank you, Morgan. Let's go to... This will get us out of the way this is all part of one report that was done on ABC and I think it brings us right up to speed with what's going on with the Maxwell story. to that major ruling in the Ghislaine Maxwell case. A judge ordering the release of what could be thousands of pages of documents from a civil case against her and those could include names of high-profile people who socialize with Jeffrey Epstein. Janae Norman joins us now with more on this, good morning Janae. Hey Cecilia good morning that civil case was settled back in 2017 but a judge ruling just yesterday that the public is legally entitled to access dozens of previously sealed records from the case some of those documents are said to contain the names of

1:37:20 hundreds of people who spend time socializing, traveling or working with Jeffrey Epstein over the course of more than a decade. This morning as Ghislaine Maxwell wakes up behind bars in a Brooklyn detention center, associates of Jeffrey Epstein may be on edge following a bombshell court ruling. A judge deciding Thursday that dozens of documents at the center of the 2015 case involving Maxwell and Virginia Roberts Gufres should be unsealed including transcripts from at least one of Maxwell's depositions in the case which her attorney says contains quote extremely personal and confidential material Gufres alleges she was abused as a teenager by Maxwell and Epstein, and directed to sleep with Prince Andrew. Allegations he denies. Gufres telling BBC Panorama... I knew that I had to keep him happy because that's what Jeffrey and Ghislaine would expect from me

1:38:12 The sealed records are said to contain names of hundreds of associates of Ebsen over the span more than 10 years. Some of Ebsen's famous associates include former President Bill Clinton, British Royal Prince Andrew and President Donald Trump who had an eyebrow raising response when asked about Keelan Maxwell this week I don't know, haven't really been following it too much. I just wish her well frankly. Uh...I've met her numerous times over the years especially since i lived in Palm Beach and I guess they lived in Palm Beach but I wish you're well. This coming on the heels of another major revelation Why does he do that? What the hell is that about

1:38:51 I wish her well. Maybe he just wishes her well, but dude that's creepy and i love how they then put Trump in they connect him oh yeah they gotta throw trump in we know that trump is disassociated from the group Now, it appears to me the only person that definitely is screwed in this deal is Prince Andrew. I mean that's the guy right? No Anderson Cooper you got to put him in there How about this? I wish her well means, I hope she makes it to the trial. Maybe that's what he means and I wish her well Don't put anything around your neck. This coming on the heels of a no... Yeah, that could be but Prince Andrew is you know, he's protected by the crown. It's not gonna happen to him He's just gonna be out at a limelight

1:39:44 Well, we'll see. We'll see I mean lots of stuff. Nothing zip-zip zero This coming on the heels of another major revelation according to federal prosecutors Ghislaine Maxwell is married But she's declined to provide the court with the identity of her spouse Maxwell is currently held on charges related to facilitating Epstein sex crimes Maxwell played a critical role in in helping Epstein to identify, befriend and groom minor victims for abuse. In some cases, Maxwell participated in the abuse herself. And more than a year after convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide in a Manhattan jail his mansions in both Palm Beach and New York City hitting the market for combined $110 million dollars The real estate postings giving a new look inside the expansive properties but leaving out one detail that Epstein was the previous owner

1:40:43 And Maxwell's lawyers plan to file an emergency appeal to keep those documents from being unsealed. If they fail, we could see them come out as early as next week. Maxwell has pleaded not guilty to all the criminal charges against her. Cecilia? Hey Janae thanks so much let's bring in Dan Abrams now. Dan good morning too! So let's break this down... We're talking about unsealed documents What do you think might be in them and anybody who might be mentioned in them, how nervous should they be? Well look the people who are mentioned in the documents ought to be nervous but not because their going to be released next week. What the court is basically doing here is saying yes I am ruling that this is going to be released if there is no appellate decision that overrules me but

1:41:28 Any of the names in there are going to be informed that this is going to be made public and they'll have an opportunity To challenge that oh Nothing's gonna come out. Yeah, nobody's mentioned this in all these reports things coming now All bitchin moan the only other words before their job In other words, if you're on the... say you're one of the John Does they contact you way in advance and say you are one of the John Does. Do you want to stop it? Of course! Yeah right away oh my goodness The only one that wants really public is Dershowitz he wants that out there because he knows what's in it and I guess it exonerates him He's pushing That's why he showing up everywhere He wants that out but it'll never happen in this case Disappointing

1:42:19 Yeah, I was very disciplined. There's an optional third clip which is kind of boring but it's... It brings out a couple more details if you want to play it. So at least for now, anyone who's in there and they're over 100 names that are referred to as John Does will get an opportunity to make an argument about why their name shouldn't be made public so far There have only been two people notified apparently neither of them have objected so their names would probably Be released this should just do Everyone Doe. It should just be... it should be Alan Doe, Prince Doe Donald Doe Bill Doe Anderson Doe

1:43:02 concerned here is Ghislaine Maxwell herself. This is going to be numerous depositions that she did in the context of this civil case, and it will involve some very personal stuff about her including about her sex life. You may even see in there elements of who she may have had sex with but without naming that person which would still stay redacted until the person got an opportunity to respond. And her team said they didn't want this release to happen because it would make her ability to get a fair trial, it would infringe on that is that true?

1:43:40 Yeah, well look that's always an argument that defense attorneys make. That any information that would be harmful to my client makes it really hard for me to get a fair trial It's also not typically a winning argument There are always ways when you're looking for jurors To find people who haven't been following cases like this that closely Particularly when you're talking about oh the details of what was released and what is said People have a lot of other things to do in their lives and in case after case I've seen jury selection they're able to find people who have not followed these cases so closely. And most importantly the legal standard is that they haven't developed an opinion about guilt or innocence

1:44:25 Well, we shall see it sounds like a big nothing burger once again And I said that the one thing he did say that you may have or may not have caught which is that two people? Have already said if there's okay by them if they release all right stuff about them right Alan Joe Who are those do its got to be Dershowitz and oh Ellen doe and who would be at the other one. I wonder pooper dough No, no Poopers freaked. It's not him I Don't know now don't know well we can't well we'll find out something somewhere but I agree Yeah, it's gonna just kind of right this is gonna roll out slowly This is a blip and it's yeah sadly I agree with you the now Of course people are dying which is always interesting We didn't I don't if we talked about it but late last year

1:45:20 banker from Deutsche Bank who had brokered all the Epstein loans killed himself. Yeah, sure hung himself actually and I don't we didn't talk about it but then there's this this killing of a judge and the judge... Have we talked about it? The judge yeah well Oh, let me see. I have a clip here. I don't think we played this. Let me see this morning new details about the attorney and self-described anti feminist accused of killing a federal judge's son and wounding her husband investigators say Roy Den Hollander dressed in a FedEx uniform Sunday and open fire on Judge Esther Solace is New Jersey home when her son and husband answered the door according to The New York Times

1:46:10 Federal authorities are also investigating whether Den Hollander is connected to a murder in San Bernardino, California earlier this month when men's rights attorney Mark Angelucci was shot at his front door by gunman also wearing a FedEx uniform. In a 2015 case before Judge Salas Den Hollander represented a woman who wanted to register for the military draft. He was replaced as her lawyer last June before the case was fully resolved, it's unclear why but it appears Den Hollander held a grudge against Judge Salas writing in his self-published book that she is quote a lazy and incompetent Latina judge appointed by Obama. Den Hollander is also known for suing nightclubs over their ladies' night discounts

1:46:56 Here's what he told ABC News in 2007. I'm now trying to turn this tables of equality on the feminazis who have changed this country This is very odd, this guy and he killed himself with multiple shots It's an old classic! It's like two to the head gun in the left hand I don't know how they do it, it's fantastic So, could be meaningless. It doesn't seem like it... I mean yeah it's connected somehow This guy is weird though and apparently he wanted to ask the judge out on a date and she had turned him down And uh..I even saw video on Colbert The Old Colbert Show where he was making fun of him Some crazy guy-guy

1:47:44 Yeah, he's gotten around. He's been on TV, he's been interviewed and then this happens and what what's the deal with the FedEx and the dress-up? And something either the guy is completely whacked or who knows Sounds like an MK Ultra gone astray. Now you're talking! And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you The man who put the C in Chomsky is bait John C Dvorak! Good morning to you Mr Adam Curry Also in the morning all the boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water dames out there knights and the dames and the knight's and the dames Yes In the Morning To Our Trolls In The Troll Room No Agenda Stream dot com Pretty helpful actually today we've had some technical issues

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1:55:34 A few months ago I asked you to put a link in the show notes to promote the beta release of my iPhone app, Mancala World. Now Mancala Fantasy online. A turn-based strategy game dating back to ancient civilizations. The game is at local two-player mode, VS computer and online play. Well I finally published the app to the App Store last month and trying to get hired as an iOS developer so every person who downloads my app is helping me find a job would you please post this link in the show notes can you do that? It would mean the world to me. I think we can do that at apple.com Okay yeah well put it right next to his... In fact will make your credit hot

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1:57:53 It's got that certain look that you see in architectural drawing. It's like they all learned it right this way I'm making this donation from my son for my son to Philip who hit me in the mouth a month ago while back has been Interesting to see how much this has changed our family dinners With our kids age 37 and 39 This is like becoming emotionally This is like becoming emotionally debt-free. I got it! We do not always agree, but we talk about things that we never did before he hit me the whole family in the mouth their whole family's access than to digging into each other's deconstructions sounds like a family I know out in California somewhere not quite because they all listen to the show these people The Johnson's alright our individual families don't actually listen

1:58:53 No, well the key really the keeper listens when I got it was dog walking all time. She'd listen which is walking my daughter is a partially Finding more detail on pretty much and he's always now she's become a search addict. Hi hi something my game up our bliss life in the mouth Grandma, maybe so she is now part of the part of the party yay. All right having a meeting That's almost impossible what it was written in block letters or as this written block letters But like forever has a big example

1:59:35 The R looks like an N that's kind of laid on its side. Is it cut from a newspaper? Little letters? We will add this to our son's accounting as he has been a subscriber for a long while now, but I wanted to have you add him to your list of associate executives... Okay this has to be switched to him. Oh okay. Please give a birth- Uh oh! Get your pen out sorry birthday call out I missed Yeah Birthday his birthday the son July 23rd and what's his name? Well, I'm now have to go back and figure out what his name is son Philip Philip What's-his-last-name? Phillip Johnson Johnson. Okay, and do we know how old he was? Dude doesn't say okay But he's probably in his 30s Now he does have jingles that I forgot that I've been remiss because I've been so mind boggled by this He needs three jingles

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2:04:22 Alrighty then. What you got? We were gonna, let's see... I've got a couple of things but we should do our China thing. Yeah yeah yeah lets do that. I also have the substance abuse special four part special later. A substance abuse special oh my! Now Pompeo came out with the fourth speech. Yes yes and he talked about it now this was interesting you would have loved it because it was down at the Nixon library outside. Wait, wait was it how was the weather? Let me ask that first. It was windy Oh my goodness did we have any form of microphone protection going on for this there'd be a dead kitten on there or something like that one. That's the particularly good one with the wind Yeah but no No just to two bear Mike sitting there you know

2:05:14 Yeah he's jacking away the winds blowing every so often screwing him up and you barely hear me and nobody covered i noticed that was watching the amy goodman yeah, i can see nothing in she showed a picture of him talking with never played even a clip because it was so important for amy to play the entire. Grouse section with the AOC on the floor of the Congress moaning and groaning about being called a bitch. I think it was an effing bitch, went a little further than that! An effing bitch... So, and nobody played any of this stuff. So this is all new now. It's just beyond me but nobody seems to be paying attention to this or the executive orders I mean there did news media is really really screwing us screwing the public so do we have the Pompeo speech? I want to play it. I don't put them to play the whole thing went on for 20 minutes by I've got the first two minutes

2:06:12 that I think pretty much summarized what he's gonna do. One of those guys who is going to tell you what he's gonna tell ya, then he's gonna tell and then he's gonna tell you what he told ya... And so we know the whole thing. One area in particular that I saw which was cited in Axios... Oops! Sorry. That is not Pompeo. Ambassador Bryan spoke about ideology FBI Director Wray talked about espionage Attorney General Barr spoke about economics And now my goal today is to put it all together for the American people in detail what the China threat means for our economy, for our liberty and indeed for their future of free democracies around the world. Next year marks half a century since Dr Kissinger's secret mission to China and 50th anniversary President Nixon's trip

2:06:56 isn't too far away in 2022. You know, the world was much different then we imagined engagement with China would produce a future with bright promise of comedy and cooperation but today today we're all still wearing masks and watching the pandemic's body count rise because the CCP failed in its promises to the world." Hold on a second! What body count rise? Whose side is he on?! That's bullcrap. You can say, you can say well I guess he just trying to make China look asshole but they're bullshit! But today we're all still wearing masks and watching the pandemic body count rise because the CCP failed in its promises to the world

2:07:34 Every morning, new headlines of repression in Hong Kong and in Xinjiang. We're seeing staggering statistics of Chinese trade abuses that cost American jobs and strike enormous blows to the economies all across America including here in Southern California. And we are watching a Chinese military that grows stronger and stronger and indeed more menacing I'll echo the questions ringing in the hearts and minds of Americans from here in California to my home state of Kansas and beyond. What do the American people have to show now, 50 years on from engagement with China? Did the theories of our leaders that proposed Chinese evolution towards freedom and democracy prove to be true? Is this China's definition of a win-win situation? And indeed centrally from Secretary of State perspective is America safer

2:08:25 Do we have a greater likelihood of peace for ourselves and peace for the generations which will follow us? Look, we have to admit a hard truth. We must admit our truth that should guide us in the years and decades to come that if we want to have a free 21st century and not the Chinese century of which Xi Jinping dreams, the old paradigm of blind engagement with China simply won't get it done. We must not continue it and we must not return to it Yeah, the wind is a little distracting. It's worse later. Oh yeah... I mean that was the best of the whole thing But what did he really say other than China man bad?

2:09:05 I don't know, and one of our producers sent a copy of the China, that thing that's an insert in The New York Times, the China Post or whatever. China Daily or whatever it is? China Daily. Yeah. It was kind of funny because obviously they're not native speakers so nobody writes like this. He says... This is a paragraph I'm gonna read. This claim of amicable-ness came despite the US' leading flibbertigibbet on everything Chinese saying that his country hopes like-minded nations can build a coalition against China. So, a flibbertigibbet... What is that? ...is what they call Pompeo A flibberdigibbets?!

2:09:49 Yeah, and because of this show is largely educational. Can you give me a spelling first? Better than that it used to be the word of the day sometime back on the Merriam-Webster site and I have a clip! Oh okay well it's not titled... Word Of The Day Okay I was gonna say I was looking for flippin' dibiddit It's Merriam-Webster's Word of the Day for December 17th. Today's word is flibbertigibbet, spelled F L I B B E R T I G I B B E T. Flibbertigibbet is a noun that means a silly flighty person Here's the word used in a sentence from The Arizona Republic by Carrie Lengel

2:10:29 As played by a breathless Vinnie Chavez, the young prince is a petulant flibbertigibbet obsessed with visual glamour which gets in the way of his search for a suitable princess to marry. The word flibbertigibbet is one of many incarnations of the Middle English word fleppergebet meaning gossip or chatterer it's a word of onomatopoeic origin created from sounds that were intended to represent meaningless chatter Shakespeare apparently saw a devilish aspect to a gossipy chatterer. He used Flibert Egypt in King Lear as the name of a devil

2:11:07 This use never caught on, but the devilish connotation of the word reappeared over 200 years later when Sir Walter Scott used flibbertigibbet as the nickname of an impish urchin in the novel Kenilworth. The impish meaning derived from Scott's character was short-lived and was laid to rest by the 19th century's end leaving us only with the silly flighty person meaning With your word of the day, I'm Peter Sankalowski. That is a fantastic word of the day and if i were representative Yoho, I would go straight to Miss Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and say Sandy listen up you misheard me! I didn't call you an effing bitch I called you a flibbertigibbet If not that's what you are now it's a new word flibbertigibbet I think that actually does describe her

2:12:03 Yes, to some degree it does. That's a good word. No it does! So he goes on and he says the same stuff that everybody else said kind of complaining moaning and groaning but curiously at the Center for Strategic International Studies CSIS Romney Was on there, you know being the blowhard that he is pretty much saying the same thing but kind of condemning Trump. I don't know how he manages to do this. What is his organization? CSIS It's run...I don't know

2:12:40 It's it's one of those think tanks that is probably a front for something. Yeah, I didn't look into it any extreme you might want to if he shows up again We probably will and has Bob Schaefer running a video operation He wasn't available for this one. Yeah, he runs a video operational There's a bunch of clips on this place well Thomas Thomas J Pritzker Is the chairman of the board? I think enough said. Yeah, well definitely. Definitely definitely so let's listen to a couple of Romney things because this is okay seems to be on board with Trump but he's not really that i have the one extra clip by sense called Romney 1 yes got it that's the one before we came on air right you call China issue about era and also said were all fast asleep at the wheel basically about this what did you mean by

2:13:33 Well, I do believe that China represents an enormous threat to liberal democracy generally. To the economic vitality of the world. To freedoms not only for its own people but for people in the world. China has a very different model that they're operating from They've expressed their ambition to dominate the world to become the geopolitical leader of the world, replacing the United States and the West. To become the military power of the world and also the economic power of the world. And they believe that's their rightful place They had that kind of hegemony once upon a time, a long long time ago. And they believe that was taken away from them by colonial powers and they intend to reassert their global leadership

2:14:26 And were they able to do so? I think we would find ourselves being impoverished relatively. We would find ourselves in an authoritarian type state, being monitored by government officials. We would not have the freedoms which we have long enjoyed and the American experiment would've come to an end." It's a big drinking club this place, the CSIS everyone is in it including Kissinger Well, Robney I don't think he's in it. He might be but they just interview all these different people so i'm sure there is some good stuff. Oh yeah Not at the institute itself but in these interviews

2:15:07 Let's go to clip two, it was short. And this isn't something we would hide from China but it's saying for instance you cannot continue to massively subsidize industries selling products massively below their cost such that you drive Western businesses out of business laying people off weakening us economically and hollowing out our economic capabilities And that is just something that has to happen. I think you make a good point, what we've seen China doing both in the South China Sea and Hong Kong with the Uighurs, with their social scoring where by virtue of cameras on every corner

2:15:50 and facial recognition technology, repressing individuals who want to express their independent point of view. All these things are waking up I think other nations and this all presents an opportunity for the leadership of America to stand up and coalesce international effort. You know what really bothers me when people bring up the Uyghurs That drone footage, that's bothersome. Where did it come from? It just shows up and there is no explanation as to why... you know it was two years old I disregard the drone footage. I think I've seen it once and didn't think much about it Okay Yeah, I don't care Okay! Oh but thats what really made this story catch legs as far as I'm concerned with the drone footage. Look at that! It surprised me Right I thought that Weager should have caught legs before if the media was doing its job

2:16:43 But they weren't because China runs them, so what are you going to do? Nothing. And by the way we're not the only country that kind of gets hoodwinked and of all things...and I think clip three is actually kind of an eye-opener! Yeah and speaking of the Uyghur population, the BBC just showed drone footage on July 19th as you know blindfolded Uighur Muslims, seemed to be like moving them onto trains. And there's some sense that there is a public backlash both in the UK and Australia about that. Do you have any sense of that? Yeah I find it astonishing that China by virtue of their repression of free speech and media is able to keep the story what they're doing in their own nation as quiet as it is

2:17:34 And perhaps some countries are used to the money they're getting from China for investment, and as a result they're not willing to say anything. I mean how do you take a nation like Iran? An Islamic nation that doesn't speak out about the repression of Muslims in China – the Uighurs! But virtual silence, how can that be? And then you understand that there's a proposal to provide some $500 billion in projects in Iran by China. I mean look at us here in this country we're not willing to spend that kind of money on our own infrastructure. China is willing to spend it on infrastructure in Iran so now surprisingly Iran gets very quiet

2:18:16 But isn't he the Iran shill? Isn't that what Romney does, doesn't he have like his daughter's married to someone over there or some crazy stuff like that. Well from the sounds of it he is not anymore! Yeah, that's very odd I'm not sure why he is doing that Well, it was a very good point though I have to say. And hilarious! You interested in any more of this? He goes on with some work material... you can stop me. I have some China stuff. Okay well let's play clip 4 he outlines the procedure that is kind of interesting

2:18:53 I love how you say, do you want to go on? You want to take more? No. I got some China stuff. Okay let's play clip four good. So lets talk about- Hold on a second! I thought you said you liked the China stuff. I didn't know you have China stuff Yeah, I don't dislike is. I just thought you were giving up on your clips and so I said okay? I got some China stuff Oh, I see I miss it. No we're good for we'll go to four hell yeah So let's talk about technology minute as we move into the 5g world There's a lot of concern about Huawei of course and again another country that seems to be stepping away from China the UK and

2:19:29 announced that from next year on it'll be illegal for telecom operators to buy 5G equipment from Huawei. How do you see that playing out? Well, I think Huawei is a good example of what's happening in numerous areas as China focuses upon Huawei is one which has such enormous national security implications that it really opened a lot of eyes and made people more aware of the threat. But here's a circumstance where China has basically said, look one of the technologies for the future is 5G we as a government are going to invest massively in 5G technology and then we're gonna price our products well below cost so that no Western company could possibly compete

2:20:15 And by virtue of that strategy, they've kept Western companies from making the investments in new technology and innovation that would allow the Western enterprises to compete. And so the telecoms that need equipment are obviously going to buy the equipment at this low cost and it has been developed by China. This is an approach they have rolled out industry after industry. They did first at steel A decade or so ago, they had 5% of the world's steel market. Today they have 53% of the world's steel market. They didn't happen to do that just by skill force on industry. They subsidized industry They priced their products massively below cost and drove the Western companies out of business. They have done that with regards to 5G, but my own view is this and I can't impose this view on our nation let alone other nations but my own view is that on technologies that are key to our national defense we ought to insist that free nations only buy those products from other free nations

2:21:16 and that nations that are not free, that are authoritarian and have military designs against the West they cannot be the source of key products that become part of our national defense infrastructure. Donald Trump don't trust China! China is asshole! Now the UK is trying to persuade all of the European Union to get rid of Huawei No, they probably should Yeah? But let's play this last clip and then I'll be done, you can take over. Well you recall the comments of Deng Xiaoping a long time ago where he said that China should abide its time, that it should build its strength quietly and not if you will wake up the sleeping giant in the West

2:22:03 And they have pursued that strategy for the last decade or so, but in the last few years they obviously have recalculated and said you know what we've already established the kind of strength we need and we no longer need to hide our ambition. So they speak openly about their ambitions to dominate the world economically militarily geopolitically and they're exerting there influence and exerting their military might and economic might in part by saying there's nothing the West can do about it And they look at us, I think it's less a matter of COVID and seeing us distracted from COVID and more a matter of seeing the absence of American leadership in bringing together the nations of the world to confront the unfair practices that China is pursuing. Oh man! I can't believe I didn't vote for you Romney. It would have been the guy... The part that I didn't clip because it's so boring he talks about how to resolve this

2:22:58 And he didn't get voted in because I didn't realize it until I listened to this. He's basically John Kerry that doesn't get quite as wound up in his own words, he wants to set up a bunch of committees and let us do some meetings and we'll take care of this China thing by getting the other people to cooperate, we won't be doing things unilaterally now there was do nothing But you know at least he makes the right points. So I believe now that after five clips of John Kerry violating the no John Kerry clip rule, I think we remember why? This is not John Kerry this is Mitt Romney He sounds just like John Kerry Wasn't there a Mitt Romney rule too

2:23:47 I think, well we could make it a rule but it wasn't a rule at the time of this show. He needs to talk a little slower. Yeah that'll help! Well he's not wrong of course. K-ball Sagar which is my name for them now Crystal Ball and What's his name? Sammy, Sammy Hagar? Sagar? Just Sagar. They had on the authors of Hidden Hands exposing how the Chinese Communist Party is reshaping the world And have a quick three clips here from that interview. I think it's enlightening as we start off with the influence on the bushes one area in particular that I saw which was cited in Axios was about influence operations here in the United States namely former

2:24:35 President George W. Bush's brother, Neil Bush. Could you detail how exactly he is being influenced by the Chinese regime? Yes well Neil Bush was targeted by an organization known as the CPAFFC, The Chinese People's Association for Friendship with Foreign Countries which has been very active in the United States, mainly at the kind of sub-national level targeting state governors sister city relationships and that kind of thing. And Neil Bush seemed to be a prominent target he has business connections in China and Hong Kong and he somehow seemed to take on CCP messaging and of course the money started to flow into a think tank

2:25:15 that he was associated with and the think tanks started to push out pro-Beijing messaging. And Neil Bush himself would go to China or Hong Kong for CCP sponsored conferences, and really mouthed the talking points of the CCP. It's a kind of classic story of elite capture You know this is going on everywhere. And here's what bugs me, how come we're not getting this treatment? How come no one has approached us? We'd be perfect! Perfect to show for the Chinese. We'd be everything but perfect Here's K-ball asking how it works. Clive could you give us kind of a bird's eye view of how that influence works? How does it operate and what is the ultimate strategy

2:26:02 Well, what the CCP does is it puts into place a very sophisticated and often very subtle process of psychological manipulation. I mean, I think it's accurate to describe it as grooming and they identify and target key members of elites political, business academic elites as people who might be induced one way or another to be drawn into the circle of CCP influence. So they're very much focused on individuals it's a very clever and subtle process and so we track how this happens certain individuals such as very prominent academics like Jeffrey Sachs

2:26:43 like former political leaders, like a former Prime Minister Paul Keating here in Australia who somehow get drawn into this CCP view of the world and get rewarded for it through sinecures through flattery through meetings with Xi Jinping and so on. So I'm listening to this I'm thinking you know that's not a big deal we do that stuff everybody does that stuff I think that we just do it with hookers Which is probably old, it's old now. You know? It's like people want money they just want cash they want trips they want expensive dinners they want jets you know hookers just doesn't work anymore as we wrap it up with exactly this question from Sagar And Clive what would you say to people who say that this is relatively benign you know countries foreign countries do this all the time and try to influence political discussion around the world What's really the harm here

2:27:40 Well, yes of course countries particularly big countries do try to have influence in other nations but there's a difference between influence and interference. And there is nice definition of it here in Australia where we are kind of three years down the track from most other countries in understanding this and we define even in our new law against foreign interference that foreign interferences influences that covert coercive or corrupt And so the thing about CCP's influence, and we're not talking about China here or Chinese people stress that. We're talking about the Chinese Communist Party is that it's secretive, its coercive and it goes on behind the scenes. So its hidden the way it works. This why when we, Marika and I for example in our book call people out they become very upset because suddenly the CCP agents who've been operating

2:28:36 undercover as it were, that is agents of influence have their cover blown and so in the United Kingdom for example two of those people have sent legally threatening letters claiming we've defamed them because you know we're telling lies but in fact what we are doing is just lifting the cover off Shining light on the CCP's activities and the one thing the CCP loves to do that is operate in the shadows Which is the wonder of a democracy with a free press That we can actually put the spotlight on them. So Australia is all over that they are way ahead of everybody else three years He said there like couple years ahead I agree because I've been watching the ABC Australia's, I'm sorry

2:29:18 Maybe on ABC. I'm not sure what his name is 60 minutes, Australia There's a they're all on the YouTube and they have a lot of China reports and they're all depressing China has taken over the entire South China Sea there creating a blockade arena Yeah And it's like then you come in that we get to know from from Catherine who says oh You know, I'm big fan of China and you guys are dating on China don't care Don't care about China It's boring she says and right boring So she said, well I take her seriously. She's one of our long-term listeners like Dame Tanya. I think it's going to be very interesting when that dam finally breaks. I've been reading about that for two months. Yeah and the dam breaking is going to be a huge problem It's like everybody is waiting for the dam to break Is it now? But its possible that the dam breaking is like Yellowstone going off

2:30:14 I've been hearing for 20 years, Yellowstone is going to go off and exterminate all human beings. Which it probably would if it went off! The way this dam story keeps coming back... is odd. Do you get this feeling? It's like, it keeps going, oh yeah! This is crazy! It's gonna happen! Like no I don't really see it...I keep hearing everyone about-it's creaking! It's creaking now! No, I don't think so Well, if it goes it goes. It'll be interesting. Yes, you know all of a sudden they put China in a bind for awhile But yeah well that's good that we're following the China thing whether anybody likes or not nobody else is doing it These are all good reports used to not us this is not our opinions We're deconstructing what we do what we can and then we're adding insight where we can and we're playing clips people that are

2:31:11 telling us stuff like what Pompeo did. What Pompeo talked about is non-trivial, he's the Secretary of State! He's an ex CIA guy. When he talks you should at least listen to him, he's not a flibberdjibbit. Not a flake like they try and make him out to be. Flibberdjibbit! I'm gonna show my salute by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab Yeah on no agenda And luckily we do have a few people to thank for show 1263. Yes, indeed we do! I'm gonna run through them...I do have a couple notes that want to read during the process it came in handwritten and interesting Laura Wilson's at the top of list from

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2:38:14 And he's talking about Brett and Eric Weinstein, and the 14 dimensions of the universe. So I'm like oh wow alright. Just soaking it all up and then this guy comes over to say hey are you Adam Curry? And I say yeah. He says in the morning! Look at my amygdala, my amygdala! It's completely shrunken. So here is his note he donated it was a pleasure meeting you at the cafe the other day thanks to both of you for keeping my amyglas small keeping it real I would like deducing from my lack of donation history God bless ya all sure All right, man. Thank you. It was nice to meet you. Curiously Jesus Allen coughs up $50 from Austin Texas these are $50 donors I just named them and the location Amanda Strauss her birthday girl in Rochester New York on behalf of her husband

2:39:05 Chris Gromal in Kingston, New York. Tristan Martins in Milwaukee. Mitchell Kaufman in Hillsborough Oregon Todd Grubb in Capic Michigan Julian Robbins in Aptos California and last but not least Robley Hall in Hillsboro North Carolina I want to thank these folks for contributing to the show and producing Show 1263. We got another show coming up on Thursday, hope we can pick it up a little bit? It would be nice! And also thanks everyone who came in under $50 which is the cutoff for anonymity but also just

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2:40:32 Here's our list for the 26th of July 2020. Jordi Seton says happy birthday to her husband Aaron Seton who turns 46 today, happy belated birthday to Philip Johnson he was celebrated on the 23rd of July Sir Hoopin Socker says happy birthday to Miss Audrey Hertert Hoopin Soccer who turned 11 on Turns 11 tomorrow actually in the 27th sir McQueen of blight town will be celebrating on the 28th as well Jason Perry he turns 44 and Sir Phenom also celebrating on July 28. Happy birthday for everybody here at The Best Podcast In The Universe Let me see what we have here oh yes

2:41:18 It's a small change, but we do want to make note of it. Sir Economic Hitman has now become the Baron and he has claimed his barony sir Economic Hitman Baron of Congressional Dish and we thank you sir for supporting the No Agenda Show And I have a special nighting which i'd like to read the note for this is from Tim Howdy on Who is being bestowed with a knighthood for his outstanding work on the new no agenda show calm and dotnet website? He put a lot of work into it. He's made the code available on GitLab or github, or wherever it is It's all on the website it incorporates so much. It was so appreciative that like many of our

2:42:10 of our huge website producers, they become knights. And I shall read his note here as we requested that he choose a title etc and he says he wants a big shout out to Leo Laporte for introducing him to the spot-on tech reporter John C. Dvorak As a humble producer of our little tribe, Tim says I gladly accept this knighting and would hereby like to be known as Sir Tim Chaudhryan Knight of the JIT shenanigans. J-I-T... ...as you always remember the tragedy that happened to the passengers MH17 That's the joint investigation team that seems to be lying for years about what really happened And he says the fake international political chess game followed it which has brought me here today

2:42:55 Please make sure there are raketjes and bitterballen at the round table with lots of bong hits. Thank you for your courage." Are you familiar with the, uh...the bitterballen? No I'm not! That's a little um like croquettes only they're balls and there's ragu in there You must have had them when you were in Holland. You dip em' in a little bit of mustard They're usually so hot that they burn the roof of your mouth no Maybe, I don't know. You know? Anyway let's bring out the swords for this fine gentleman. I've got mine ready. This is the special Jits! Well you gotta get up here now Tim come on and i've got your roundtable request ready for you thank you very much for

2:43:39 Really supporting the no agenda show in an outstanding manner with unbelievable value of that beautiful website And I'm very proud to pronounce the KU Sir Tim Hadrian, knight of the JIT shenanigans for you Of course we've got hookers and blow. We've got rent boys and chardonnay but by request Racketjes and bitterballer with lots of bong hits. We've got zucchini, meatloaf, pog and poi English muffins and butter and honey Fish pie and fellatio. We've got redheads and rye Bong hits in bourbon, vodka, vanilla gaysons and sockeye Ginger ale and gerbils And if you want some we always have mutton and meat and sir Tim go over to know a generation comm slash rings And the shoe will gladly take care of you'll get that out to the Netherlands. Thank you very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe

2:44:30 Lots of meetups happening, lots of stuff going on. I have a quick rundown so actually we have a couple of reports We saw some donations come in earlier. We have report from the double header meetup That was the Road America double header meetup it was a big success says Todd Squid Buzz, who organized it. In attendance were Lisa from Detroit, Rio from Madison aka Little Moscow, Sherry and Eric from Chicago not a big group but a fun group. Lisa traveled the farthest by car because she wanted to see the racetrack again after being there many years ago. Rio was there with some friends that even after getting hit in the mouth we're not convinced about Noah's agenda. Sherry and Eric drove up to enjoy Wisconsin freedom

2:45:15 Sherry and the group are calling Eric out as a douchebag. Me, while I flew in from Portland and represented local 33 to get away from Les Co stuff...I did attempt to hit my brother in the mouth earlier over the weekend but I don't think it stuck! Thanks to all for attending thanks again Adam & John for the best podcasting universe Todd Squidbuzz Strobel from Vancouver Washington here is an audio meetup report from The Flight of The No Agenda 005 Meet Up By the way apparently either someone was speaking out of their butt or they recorded this on the phone I don't know it has a very unique sound to it We're the parents of math girl crazy

2:46:10 You can call us, Crazy House. And we're just having a good time with great people in the morning! All right this is Angie I'm here with Veronica We are here we've got slapped in the mouth by my brother Leo who's hosting this event Good Morning Hey this is Alex my friend and I am here giving you The Whole Load I don't know how to get it up TheWholeLoad.com Yeah okay all that was missing from that report was over Let me know what you think. Over.

2:47:07 In Issaquah on a beautiful sun... is it Tigger? No, Tiger. Tiger Mountain on a beautiful Issaquah in Issaquah on a beautiful sunny day. I got to meet one of them had a great time my primary trail choice was still closed due to COVID-19 and hindsight picking a trail system with multiple access points was a bad backup choice i hope to meet more the family please don't disown me on the future hike meetup you got here's a final what does this one this is another report audio report We already had that one. Maybe this was the report from them in the morning, John and Adam This is the other half of the post Rona vitamin D meetup in Seattle Washington I am Kel I'm still a colossal douchebag and with me is this is Bryce And I am shocked at how many people are just saw on a trail with masks on hey This is Thomas ITM

2:48:04 I don't listen to the podcast. Thank you for your courage. Shut up slave Here's what's coming up meet-up wise on Wednesday the City Park Denver Museum of Nature and Science John and Taylor organizing the Denver City Park sit in at 6 o'clock Friday, the Northeast Kent Southeast London British summertime meetup. That'll be at 330 B.E., British time obviously. Bring a cat meme to The Real Ale Way GWFF is organizing and Friday What's Cookin' Oregon local 33 6 o'clock that will be Cook Park in Tigger details at noagendameetups.com Tim is organizing and that is exactly what you want to do go to noagendameetups.com find the meet up near you

2:48:48 Go hang out with people who will not condemn you for anything. Above all, just go hang out be yourself be clumsy no one will care You'll have a good time we guarantee it NoAgendaMeetups.com It's kind of like a party! Sometimes you wanna gonna go Hang out with all the nights and days I just got a couple of clips that i'd like to share with some news that I feel was not really broadcast very far and wide. And the first one is about air safety. The FAA issued this emergency inspection order to all airlines and operators with 737s,

2:49:40 It all has to do with an engine shutdown issue. Now, the FAA says the problem is so severe that it could result in what they call a forced off airport landing and that there have been at least four recent incidents with these critical engine valves. The issue happening in part because many planes have been parked and not used during this pandemic. Now here's what the FAA is saying, quote, corrosion of these valves on both engines could result in a dual engine power loss without the ability to restart this condition if not addressed could result in compressor stalls And that dual engine power loss without the ability to restart which could result in a forced off Airport landing and don't forget the 737 right now is one of the most popular airplanes in service around The world this is why you don't want your airplane sitting still not doing anything. They really don't get better over time This is this is serious problem I'd say Yeah

2:50:46 It's and it's really just because it's been sitting out there in the desert or wherever they've been storing them. That's the problem So now they have to I mean if it really if you ever quit, I mean this engine out is like a flame-out It's you know, that's completely pilots are trained for this but shouldn't be happening This is it should be shouldn't be attended to I would say Or is this just another brick in the wall of the Airbus Boeing fight who knows? Yeah How I know she can go out to the desert and see where these planes are and I think you can just go out there And screw with them. Yeah, probably camping People not screwing city guards around there. I've flown over these areas. They're not screwing with him You know your real conspiracy theorist now that it's dust and sand and shit that gets in the engines Mm-hmm yeah don't trust the pilot whatever you do oh

2:51:41 I trust the pilot. That's me, I'm the pilot. Manufacturers. Okay. All right? I got one last clip that says you brought them up. You brought up K-ball and Sagar. I did! I like K-ball by the way so they're doing a little report on the jobless claims not want to preface it with my kind of take on this So the two of them and i've seen this with other reporters too especially Democracy Now!, They're all upset because the jobless numbers have gone up Because they've been going down, and going down. And of course there was a shutdown and then we get away from the shut down We start reopening, reopening, reopening The numbers go better, get better, better, and then everybody reshuts down

2:52:29 So consequently, I think the logic would be yeah. The unemployment numbers would change for the worse because now we've gone back and we retroed on this. And how about California with its 40 million inhabitants who closed all bars and restaurants again? Of course people are out of work now! So that thing will go up again but no... This is a stunner apparently if you listen to these two. We've got some breaking news this morning new jobless claims rose for the first time that we've seen during the pandemic 1.4 million Americans over the past week filed for unemployment that's in contrast to one point three million last week which is where we've been right for

2:53:29 You know, Now that I consider it, we've been very gracious with Kball and Sagar. We played a lot of clips. I've been interested in their reporting you know a lot of people like them but so far they've jacked me up over unsealed documents which are which they haven't reported correctly really So i'm all jitty about something coming out on the week and that's not going to happen

2:54:21 And now they're just failed to understand some basics. I think we're moving towards a K-ball and Sagar ban on the show Well, it's hard to get a ban on them because they do have some funny material Hmm and it's not like is boring but I think taking them seriously should be banned Let's start there I'll begin We're gonna call that a day For those of you listening live, thank you for sticking with it. We had a number of technical issues

2:54:59 Let's see, we lost a couple hundred people between the beginning and the end but still well over 1100. And we would like to thank all of you who supported this show our execs our associate executive producers all producers and remind you to help us out again by going to Dvorak.org slash NA Help us out for the Sunday Show We're looking forward to doing it for you there will be tons of stuff to deconstruct After end of show mixes, we've got Fletcher Tom Starkweather. We've got Jesse Coy Nelson and MoFax with Adam Curry coming up next on noagendastream.com Coming to you from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin Texas FEMA region number six in the governmental maps in the morning everybody

2:55:49 I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where things just drag along, and I'm John C. DuVorak We return on Thursday right here we'll see you here to produce another episode of No Agenda until then adios mofos! ...and such You are about to witness the stupidity of extreme progressivism It's not exactly an inviting image that would draw locals or tourists to visit More boards went up today on the federal courthouse. Straight outta Portland, a crazy man named Wheeler who is also the police commissioner When there's a riot you gotta try it Turn the crowd and he gonna get loud Boo hoo! The people ain't with him His police had to go and rescue him He's an ass just for going out He's a stupid ass ice cream and sauerkraut Straight outta Portland

2:56:49 There was graffiti in many places, but especially on the base that held the elk statue for more than a hundred years. I think mainstream Americans, the silent majority were actually kind of tired of seeing these anarchists destroying our city And we would like to see the police step up and take care of these people. In downtown Portland, in downtown Portland Straight out of Portland The bad restaurant and bar owners

2:57:27 are going to make it worse for the good ones. 7,000 restaurant owners to construct makeshift platforms for outdoor dining which over the past two weeks have been perched precariously near traffic We were not opening outdoor bars we were opening outdoor dining uh...we never said Block party bars. Governor Cuomo sounds the alarm again, worried about younger people going to bars and spreading COVID-19 That is the only line between anarchy and civilization It's just, it's tough because we can't really control what other people are doing outside of the establishment. We're not even going to be able to get anyone inside for at least the foreseeable future...it's even worse! If it happens I'll tell you what is going to happen here. We're gonna have to roll back the opening day. Don't you like homeless Christians? How did I get associated with Chips? I don't know

2:58:27 There's nothing wrong with formal checks. I enjoy them, Jimmy. I had nothing to do with it except explain the situation to the people of this state and ask them to do the right thing and step up And they did! They did But it is still not my impulse to say wide-scale shutdown businesses or wide scale fines because I really think that backfires in terms of what we're trying achieve getting people back to work. I was fortunate enough to be able to collect unemployment so that I think made it a lot easier to get through, but that's now quickly changing. The number of congregations that we've seen across the state but especially in downstate primarily of young people when i cook it they just won't eat it but they move it around the dish and that's all i can ask this is a very uh very important job

2:59:17 It's really something that has been great. You need stamina, you need physical health and you need mental health. Stamina! I asked the doctor is there some kind of a cognitive test? Stamina because i've been hearing about it because Joe should take that test because... stamina! Somethings going on and he's crazy oh hes incompetent and now I say this with respect Like a memory question. It's like you'll go person woman man camera TV person woman man stamina, TV camera. If you get it in order you get extra points they said nobody gets in an order it's actually not that easy but for me was easy okay because I'm cognitively there we have to have somebody that sharp because I'm cognitively

3:00:12 Because I can tell you President Xi is sharp. He wants to take over the world, President Putin is sharp! He's going to take over the world. Erdogan is sharp. These are dictators and you have to be sharper than them because I want to shut these people up If you get it in order, you get extra points And I got a perfect mark. If you get it in order, you get extra points But as soon as they announced my score and their test all the stuff went away about me is he confident? Remember they're talking about 25th amendment and nonsense, nonsense, nonsense The best podcast in the universe! MoFoDvorak.org Slash N-A Fliberty Gibbet