Breaking News: Ted Kennedy Is Dead

00:01 Look at all these women around here, they're all dogs. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. August 27th, 2009, time for your Gitmo Nation audio publication, episode 125. This is no agenda. Coming to you from the 17th century Canal House, Crackpot Command Center in Amsterdam, Gitmo Nation East, where the Mark of the Beast is official as of today, I'm Adam Curry. and from northern Silicon Valley where a heat wave is afoot. I'm John C. Dvorak. the chip card yes the RFID they call it the I forget what they call it when are they going to put the chip in the people well they're getting there they're actually there was this oh that's funny I was listening to this on the radio they had there was a big dance party on the beach over the weekend and it got out of hand and the cops were surrounded by the public and then the cops started shooting and

01:15 Shooting? Yeah, shooting. Shooting? Yes, like with their firearms. Yeah, and so one kid died of a shot wound and six others were wounded of which one other seriously. And so immediately the word came out, well you know it's it is possible that he was killed by a police bullet, i.e. you know, yeah, they're getting ready for the evidence to come out. And so the mayor of, I think it's Rotterdam actually, has come out and said, okay, that's it, we've got to ban all parties. No more parties ever again. And so I was listening to the radio this morning, Miki and I were driving the car down to the south of Holland for some business, and there was this whole discussion where the right-wing

02:02 political party is saying well you know we could do we could still do parties but why don't we put a chip into the people who have been troublemakers in the past and we can identify them I like they're really seriously discussing this shit in the troublemakers so anyway so the the the managing director of this whole you know wait wait wait you know if you put a chip in the troublemakers Only the troublemakers will have chips. No, I think it'd be kind of interesting because the troublemakers can then group up with each other by having a scanner and then finding other troublemakers. Yeah, exactly. And forming gangs of troublemakers. Gangs, exactly. We need to find each other. It's going to be very easy.

02:45 So the managing director of this whole big system, they've had a campaign going on for a long time, like the only way you'll be able to travel with public transport is with this RFID card. And everyone's got to use it starting August 27th. And so this guy is, of course, the managing director, he's the first one to use it, right? It was like, oh, look, here it is. And he gets stuck in the turnstile. Is that true? Yes. Oh brother. That's a real PR nightmare if you're trying to make this thing. He couldn't go forwards or backwards. He's stuck in a certain style. Sounds like the Keystone cops are running the place. I'm telling you man, I'm telling you. So what is the tourist supposed to do?

03:30 Well, I think the way it works is probably the same as the Oyster card in the UK where you buy the empty card or maybe you buy it with one or two bucks on it and then you can top it up. But of course what they really want is they want you to buy one that is associated with you. In fact, they also announced today that kids can buy meals at school with their RFID card. So the process is already well underway here in Gitmo Nation East. What is the point? What are they afraid of? Why are they chipping people? It makes no sense. What do you mean why? So they can track you of course. What do you mean why? What do they expect to get out of it?

04:12 It's handy! It's handy! It's handy! It's handy! Why are we doing this? It's handy! Yeah, it makes it easier to do less work. It is, it's really handy. But think about it, they're putting kids' lunch money onto these cards, so if you're a bad kid, no lunch for you! Bad kid? How many bad kids... well I guess there's a bunch of drunks over there. it didn't get the bad kids are there yeah well there's the you know it's uh... this country is pretty big there's a fantastic book that i i saw advertise may bought it uh... i i i love this written by a i think i guess seventy two-year-old artists she's a painter in a faint and uh... book is called more to namens the chrome uh... which roughly translates to uh... murder in uh...

05:05 Oh, what is the word I'm looking for? Murder by order of the crown. And it's about Pim Fortuyn, the politician who was all set to win the elections in I think 2002 it was, maybe no, 2000, 2001. Remember that everyone called him the Dutch Le Pen and everyone was really freaking out. Of course, the whole country was behind the guy and he actually won his party, won posthumously, but he was assassinated outside of a radio studio. And she got a hold of a report from the Dutch version of the FBI, the Binnenlandsveiligheidsdienst, maybe you call it CIA.

05:49 and in it it talks of a second shooter and apparently there were like five bullets in his head two of which were different caliber and from a different weapon. So they went for a headshot because he couldn't take a chance he was wearing a bulletproof vest. Yep, they went for the headshot. Two to the head. And so I'm very excited you know there's some of me, some crackpots here in Holland. I love it. Yeah, I'm sure there's more than a few. It wouldn't surprise me. I'll tell you that that guy was he was he was gonna sweep that people were freaking out He was gonna sweep the elections and he did of course the party fell apart because they without their leader They were all screwed up. Yeah, that's typical. Yeah, which was which was a shame but You know and people say oh, that's just crazy. So it's it's based upon a report from the That's crazy talk. That's just crazy so, of course

06:50 Although I'm not in the United States right now, I can only surmise that the news is all about the death of Teddy Kennedy. Over the last couple of days, yeah, it's been like, in fact my wife was irked. the other day CBS in particular is all over this and for some reason you have to kind of figure out what CBS CBS being a very much in the Obama camp yeah they I can tell you why I'll tell you why in a minute but tell me why now because it's a you'll be a good backstory well because the new sitcom well so it's well it's very convenient of course and unfortunate you know the guy died of brain cancer

07:31 And of course he was the last of what we call royalty, I guess, in the United States. But very convenient for him to die on the very same day that the news comes out that the deficit will rise by two trillion more than expected. Of course a lot of that is the proposed health care reform. Unemployment is going to blast through the double digits. We're going to go through 10 percent. All of this horrible, horrible economic news and that is completely snowed under by Teddy Kennedy. Yeah, he could have been dead for days for all we know. Keep it quiet. We got... He's too early, dammit. We gotta wait until we have to release the numbers. Because you're not reading anything about the numbers, Albie. You're not hearing anything about that. I can just guess. Yeah, no, it's all... It's wall-to-wall. This is Michael Jackson 2. Yeah. Without the dancing. Right.

08:31 But anyway, there's a new show, a new drama that we like to watch, which just has a great character called The Mentalist. What's the premise of this? The premise is this guy is a magician who is also good at reading people and can Fane, reading your mind kind of thing. He's a consultant with the police department, the California Bureau of Investigation actually. He goes from case to case and kind of figures out who did it. It's actually very entertaining. It's very well done. The structure is nice and it's paced well. It's one of the shows where now the family is watching. There was a rerun. My daughter

09:17 get to see so they're showing the thing right in the middle of it unlike every other network which is that a scroll you know as to crawl or crawl at the bottom they interrupted could that show and went on for fifteen minutes and are they out of their mind they interrupted the show The family was watching, darn it! Well that is absolutely the fact. I mean why are they interrupting the show? Because this was, I mean if it was Schwarzenegger or something local or that's actually there was a Washington but it was something local but I had to tell anybody this maybe they don't know but Ted Kennedy was a senator from Massachusetts. And he got handed that senatorship didn't he? He wasn't actually elected I think.

09:55 uh... this first time around i'm not sure i don't know and i'm pretty sure it was one of the handoff deal with well whatever the case was easy was he reelected a lot but anyway but it's it's it's really it's it is national news at one level but not you know, World War III. And so anyway, World War III is going to... The point is my daughter didn't get to see the episode, darn it, because of Viacom's corruption. Hey, Ron, Viacom's corruption. Yeah. Does your daughter know that she'll be paying for your death squad? Death panel. I'm sorry. Is she aware of that at least or do you not talk about that at all? She listens to this show. Ten trillion dollars, that's what the oversight management board is saying. Ten trillion dollars. It adds up. It certainly does.

10:54 You know, it's like how egotistical are we as human beings that we're willing to save our ass now and have our great-grandchildren take the rap? You know, it's just how egotistical are we? I mean, when will someone just stand up and say, you know what, fuck that shit. We need to change it for the better. I'm going to sacrifice myself right now. There you go. I'll sacrifice myself. I'll take no health care so that my grandchildren can have it. Jesus right in the middle of that John gets blown out of the water. Hey, man, that's one Yeah, let me see if I can Already have I know what the cut-in is. Well, hold on a second. We may not have to cut in Maybe you're still up. Hold on. That's kind of weird say something testing one two three. Yeah, you're still on cool Yeah, if you call back then it works apparently, okay, where did you lose me? I was saying that we need to sacrifice ourselves for the for the good of our grandchildren and

11:48 Yeah, I said something along the lines of that's the way it's always been. I mean this is what this has been forever So I mean they're just you know, there's dirt we cheat the system somehow I never really yeah by printing more money and we're gonna run out It's over not gonna run out of paper. That's the point. So Finland is shutting down the paper plans. What are you talking about? We are actually we are running out of paper. I In fact, paper may become as valuable as gold one of these days. The name of the clip is Kennedy NPR special. Yeah, they did a special on the Kennedy clan and you know, it mostly was the one of many about joke Joe Kennedy and the basic defect is a mobster and you know, he made all his money during prohibition right running bootleg later Yeah, yeah, and he's well connected and so the whole thing is about all these kind of crooked deals but there one day and of course, you know, they I mean

12:48 I mean if Ted Kennedy is lionized, you know, you don't I mean doesn't he doesn't hold a candle to John Kennedy and then so there's this so I'm gonna play it wasn't it was it supposed to be Joe Kit? No, what was the Joe Kennedy jr. Was gonna be but he was gonna be president. He got yeah, he got killed in the war He was supposed to be the the the main is amazing how three nay four kids from one from one family were all you know either slated to be president or you know yeah I mean how does that work that can only mean that there's some kind of corruption going on yeah well here play this clip and that this is Tip O'Neill by the way this is the the the narrator followed by in the middle there's Tip O'Neill laughingly who used to be the speaker of the house laughingly talking about the kind of how they basically bribe their way into getting Kennedy elected play it

11:48 Yeah, I said something along the lines of that's the way it's always been. I mean this is what this has been forever So I mean they're just you know, there's dirt we cheat the system somehow I never really yeah by printing more money and we're gonna run out It's over not gonna run out of paper. That's the point. So Finland is shutting down the paper plans. What are you talking about? We are actually we are running out of paper. I In fact, paper may become as valuable as gold one of these days. The name of the clip is Kennedy NPR special. Yeah, they did a special on the Kennedy clan and you know, it mostly was the one of many about joke Joe Kennedy and the basic defect is a mobster and you know, he made all his money during prohibition right running bootleg later Yeah, yeah, and he's well connected and so the whole thing is about all these kind of crooked deals but there one day and of course, you know, they I mean

12:48 I mean if Ted Kennedy is lionized, you know, you don't I mean doesn't he doesn't hold a candle to John Kennedy and then so there's this so I'm gonna play it wasn't it was it supposed to be Joe Kit? No, what was the Joe Kennedy jr. Was gonna be but he was gonna be president. He got yeah, he got killed in the war He was supposed to be the the the main is amazing how three nay four kids from one from one family were all you know either slated to be president or you know yeah I mean how does that work that can only mean that there's some kind of corruption going on yeah well here play this clip and that this is Tip O'Neill by the way this is the the the narrator followed by in the middle there's Tip O'Neill laughingly who used to be the speaker of the house laughingly talking about the kind of how they basically bribe their way into getting Kennedy elected play it

13:38 Kennedy carried Wisconsin, but he did lose key Protestant districts and the next contest was in an overwhelmingly Protestant state, West Virginia. To win there, Kennedy would have to confront the religious issue at every public appearance. Senator Kennedy, how can we stop the religious issues that keep coming up to confuse the public? Ron Jon, what were those religious issues with the Protestants at the time? Kennedy is the first Catholic president. And there were always the Protestants in the United States historically was skeptical of Rome and specifically the Pope and they always felt that if a Catholic president was elected, he would just take orders from the Pope. Yeah, that's the dude in that cool car, huh? Exactly.

14:34 I don't mind. I must say that we shouldn't boo because it's a I am running for the presidency, which is a powerful Given great power under the Constitution and it is a matter of concern to a good many people and the best way to get it answered seems to me is to ask the question openly West Virginia was not only Protestant it was notoriously corrupt once again the Kennedys left nothing to chance I tell the story about Eddie Ford Eddie Ford went out there pocket full of money. This is a tip on you Yeah, you see a sheriff And he said to the sheriff, sheriff I'm from Chicago, I'm on my way south, I love this young Kennedy boy, he can help this nation. My God, he's got the feeling for it, you know, he'll do things for West Virginia. I'll tell you what he said, his 3,000, his 5,000, he said, you carry your village for him or your county for him and I'll give you a little reward on my way back.

15:33 Wow. FBI wiretaps would later show that underworld figures said to have old ties to Joe Kennedy were also distributing funds on behalf of the Kennedy campaign. Kennedy won West Virginia and all of the primaries. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. That's what Mayor Daley did for Obama. yeah there's that and uh... that it's like you know but it's funny that you know they do it just right with the whole system is a right with this so that was fun what's what i love jack kennedy what's funny is what what's funny is if there's only one small discrepancy or if there's you know what anything goes wrong with the voting on american idol the country is up in arms we are pissed off to no end because it should have been the other dude with the hair who won

16:20 But when it comes to, I'm sure you've heard the voting machines, you probably blogged it, that a couple of guys proved that it's very easy to, or relatively easy to change the votes in the voting machines that are used in many districts in the US. I mean this whole voting machine thing, it's rigged, the whole thing is rigged. Yeah, it makes it easier. I think you're right, I think a lot of this has to do with just ease, making things easier. By the way, there was a movie, and the listeners maybe can help me here. Oh, those listeners who... And this movie came out in the late 60s, early mid 70s, early 70s, 70s, I don't know. I saw it at the Pacific Film Archives and it was at the time I was watching I said, this is the most ridiculously stupid movie I have ever seen in my life. And it was a movie that was documenting the various mob families and who they'd run for president.

17:15 And like every, especially in the Democrat party, everybody that would, Lyndon Johnson was representing one part of one mob family and Kennedy was representing another mob family. Well they're all gangsters, John. Of course they are. We know that the Clintons and Bush families have been working together for years running drugs through, you know, Mena, Arkansas. They're all thugs and gangs. It makes total sense. Why do we believe otherwise? Well I just would like to find, you know, the thing is this was so well documented even though I thought it was bogus because I was a... Because you were not awakened by then. I wasn't the skeptic that I've become. Through experience, I might add. Yes. And through research. Experience and research. Research. So there's an interesting story breaking as we speak. Oh, what's that? Wait, do we have a breaking news story? No, sorry, we don't. No, we have... Well, I want to preface it with a clip. Well, we do. We have a... Breaking news! Breaking news!

18:16 Did I blow you out? No, that was it. I think that horn should only be used for when we have duplication. We need a different noise because that should be for repeating ourselves. Yes. Anyway, the... Which clip do you want me to proceed the breaking news with? Well, I want you to run the Olbermann clip. I got three of them. I got all the worst person and and three ads. Well, there's a couple of there's a couple of weirdness is going on with Olbermann. You're not gonna get into the whole news network fighting news network thing again, are you? No, no, no. No, I'm just is all the man is over and relevant. I mean, how many people watch him? He's got a big numbers. His numbers have got and he's getting a big head, which is hard to believe, but which is very good for your television career.

19:00 It's hard to believe, but it's actually getting, you know, so, but what's interesting is the commercials they're running around his show. Oh, let me guess. Big Pharma? No, that's what's interesting about it. Really? Run, I think Olbermann won. Okay, let's check. By of healthcare. Healthcare is then rationed. Also, the quality of healthcare with socialized medicine is greatly reduced. You will wait months and years for treatment. Many of the people will not get treatment at all. pay for free health care for over twenty million illegal aliens obama and the democrats know that socialized medicine does not work they wanted because it gives them more power over you you can stop the horrors of socialized medicine from happening to you by joining the u.s. citizens association membership is free go down to snows this is there not been also the same for the two initiation as a citizen so we dot com when it was just a random myself i was gonna say why did you use family because you didn't want to promote it

19:56 I'm not putting out somebody else's phone number. Wait, so if I play that backwards then I get the number and I can find the website? I'll give you the number. No, please. So that's an anti-Obama and you would think an anti-Oberman type of ad. Yeah, that runs right before or right during one of the breaks and I was going, wow, somebody's screwed up. I'm wondering whether it's a honeypot or what it is because when I listen to that ad, it's basically everything's free, free, free. This is a mailing list operation. I was going to say, you know, maybe we should actually call the number because maybe it's, you know, as you say, a honeypot where you call up and then they try to convert you.

20:37 Or whatever or just get your name on a mailing list. What's the website? What's the what's the website that they gave out? Come on, John It's it's the name of the it's the name of the group org. I think someone said thanks I can go get I'd have to play the real clip without the unedited clip to figure it out But let's go anyway, that's an example of the ads They're running on that show which I thought was a bright surprising now the more surprising one because I've never heard an ad for this ever is I think it's clipped the third clip for Olbermann you I'm not your name. You're not your job. You're not the clothes you wear or the neighborhood you live in. You're not your fears, your failures, or your past. You are hope. Stop it. Stop it. Hope. Now you gotta guess what you think it's gonna be. Um... I think this is... Wow.

21:37 Is this targeted at college kids? I don't know hit it. You are imagination You are the power to change to create and to grow You are all that you can be a spirit that will never die no matter how beaten down You will rise again Scientology Whoa! Wait a minute. Scientology dough yourself. These guys must be hard up for money, man. So they're taking Scientology dough and they're taking anti-Obama ad money? So it sounds like, and this by the way went right into a Rachel Maddow house ad.

22:29 You are scientist. Have you ever read Dianetics by Ron L. Hubbard? Yeah, I'm familiar with it. Have you actually read it? I couldn't get through it. It was just too much for me. I read it. I read it one vacation. You read Atlas Shrugged. Yeah. I did it. I mentioned it. Don't let me do that again. I have not seen the I got to put up the link the amazon.com link I'm gonna start promoting all these wacky books so yes you did it again but Dianetics it's not a bad book you know and it's not you know I like just my advice yeah people can read it but it doesn't seem as freaky as the people who try and you know get you clear who are stopping on the street you know with the with

23:15 with that voltometer or whatever it is. The book is... E-meter. E-meter. Yeah. The predecessor to the iPod. It had some pretty logical stuff in there. A lot of the book is about what a fetus actually feels while it's inside the womb and what it hears and the whole idea of not disturbing... Well, I thought you were getting an interesting commentary from the Anne Rand I haven't. The only thing I've gotten, let me tell you dude, the only thing I've gotten is good. You should honk the horn when you say dude from now on. No I will not. I've gotten good feedback. People are like hey man thanks for pointing that out. That's a pretty interesting book. I don't know if they've actually gotten through it all. Have you started yet John? Mr. Criticaster? Yeah I have. I've started. It's sitting over on the toilet so when I'm taking a dump I read a couple pages.

24:05 It really helps. I'm telling you get out of the bathroom a lot faster. I read gossip magazines primarily ones that that have me in it when I'm taking a dump. I get out real fast. I'm like, oh I'm being raked over the coals again. So, you know, I was walking down the street and I had one of my roll-ups in my mouth and Yeah, oh yeah, there's Adam Curry smoking. Yeah. Oh, yeah, totally. It's all over the news Hey, he's on he's on dope again. He's stoned again. I'm like dude. It's just a fucking it's effective tobacco so Alright now so here's the some actual Interesting political news and this requires playing one more clip Wow this one will be the clip number two which is the long clip the worst person

24:55 Yeah, Olbermann does this thing called the worst person in the world! And so he cites some poor schlub who happens to be a PR guy defending his congressmen. for apparently being politically incorrect and using the word and allowing somebody to use the word terrorist in a joking manner. And I've noticed this with Olbermann, which is a show, you know, it's worth watching occasionally if you can put up with Olbermann who has got no sense of humor. And a big head. And he's got this huge head that just fills the screen and he's really serious and he stares and he purses his lips.

25:32 And he's really serious. He's talking. Oh, what did he do before this? Was he like a comedian or no? No, he was a rich Sportscaster reputation by being fired by ESPN. Yeah, right. He was a sports guy. I thought it was something like that. And he dreamed up this show some time ago and it was a huge flop until the election came around and he decided to go overboard with being an Obama bot. I mean really over the top. And he started getting a following and then he picked up some better writers and the show is actually pretty full of material but a lot of it is just really sketchy in this particular piece if you listen to it it leads me right into a news story that I found interesting. But our winner tonight Matt LaVoy the spokesman for yesterday's worst congressman Wally Herger of Chico California after a constituent now identified as Burt Stead of Reading California stood up at a Herger town hall

26:26 and identified himself as a quote, proud right-wing terrorist. Congressman Hergury responded not with any rebuke, but by saying, Amen, God bless you, there is a great American. His spokesman, Mr. LaVoy, now says the congressman has no intention of apologizing for praising a self-described terrorist. He says, quote, the comment was in jest. The man was using satire to make his point, which does not have a damn thing to do with it. As I said last night, even if he was being allegorical or hyperbolic, this is not language to bandy about. Not when people on both sides are showing up with submachine guns or guns in town halls. Submachine guns. Not when members of right-wing militias are showing up at town halls.

27:04 When faced with this crap on the eve of last year's election, even Senator McCain's conscience got the better of him, and he reprimanded a woman spouting hate speech against McCain's rival. Congressman Herger and his spokesman need to do the same. And until they do, they are contributing to this climate of paranoia and violence enveloping our political system. Until they say something, Congressman Herger and this spokesman are not defending the Constitution, they are threatening it. the spokesman for congressman wally herger second district california today's worst person in the world so this guy so he brings up the violence thing of the empty vials of the machine gun i love the phantom of the opera music that goes along with that pretty dramatic

27:50 So, the story breaks this morning that some punk who had apparently busted up, this is the violence part by the way, busted up the Democratic headquarters in I think Denver and defaced a bunch of Obama signs and busted a window. Inside the actual offices? No, they threw rocks through the window, they just busted up the place to some extreme and it was blamed on pissed off Republicans who were funded by the insurance companies so they But by coincidence these kids I guess went around here and there kids and one of them's 24 years They're both in a mid 20s and they give some cop by coincidence caught him and is any guys a Democrat operative

28:42 really yeah he's a democrat he was he actually he's been he's been a paid can and the surrey got five hundred bucks for canvassing for some months on my blog to work that org slash blood should check it out and and beginning the now s think that ok so he ended the idea is in the course the denver post very supportive of all bombing says no he's an are you not that democrat is an anarchist And I'm thinking, yeah, sure. He also apparently was arrested in Minnesota trying to disrupt the Republican convention. This guy's just one of these guys. He's a troublemaker. He should be chipped.

29:17 He's a paid troublemaker, but it's like now they've turned out that there's a whole bunch of listings on Craigslist to get, you know, with the title, summer jobs that make a difference where they pay you $350 to $500 to go work. This one got a Sacramento. Oh yeah, that's been going on for weeks. Right, to go in and stuff. Yeah. And there's no reason for them, you know, the idea here is just to make the Republicans look bad. I was thinking about this because I've been watching a lot of these town hall meetings and there's this really sketchy stuff that comes up and, you know, from the supposed radical Republicans, these Republican terrorists that can barely get away from the television set, let alone go protest. My commentary is simple.

29:59 What Republicans do you know that go around, drive around on bicycles and throwing rocks at places like these two kids were doing? The Republicans, unless a church organizes a protest and buses the people out there, they generally don't do that much. They're not, the radicals are typically on... You know they're gonna show up in their Ford F-150s with their semi-automatic rifles. They're not gonna waste time on bicycles with rocks. So, the point is, well, they generally stay home. But the point is, they do. So, I'm watching one of the town hall meetings, which I'd taken a clip from earlier, and this guy gets up who's moaning vociferously about the bad health care bill. First he says, I pay $700 a month for my health care insurance.

30:49 And I think I get the best, and I am an American, and I get the best health care in the world, and he rips off of two or three Republican, the corniest, the worst of the Republican talking points as if he's mocking them. But he makes it very clear he's paying $700 a month for this great health care. Huh, the phone. So, and somebody comes and berates him afterwards saying that, well, hold on a second. Hello, hello John C. Dvorak escort service. Yeah some opinion poll some opinion poll so Anyway, and I was thinking what we should really have a way to patch your phone in when an opinion pollster calls We should be like both on the phone and we should really mess with their heads. It would be great Anyways, but the thing is when I picked it up they already hung up because I'm obviously on a dialer and

31:43 called the company's opinion one. Anyway, the phone's off the hook now. So I'm thinking and somebody else comes up to you know some other Republican, a real Republican, kind of flabbergasted about how this guy's bragging about paying $700 a month as though this is a good thing. And she had this look on her face and now I think back on it, why was it just a Democrat plant in a form of irony saying, I pay $700 a month for the greatest health care in the world and I want to keep it that way, which is essentially what he said. So I'm thinking half of this stuff is staged.

32:20 in one way or another and it's not staged by the Republicans. We need to set something straight here because the $700 a month or whatever it is, you probably pay $400, I think that's what I pay somewhere in that region. That's actually not paying for health care. You're paying for insurance. And the whole idea of these insurance companies sitting in between, whether they're public or private, whether it's government owned or not, the whole idea of it being like a layaway program is just wrong. Healthcare in general should be somewhat affordable and there should be reasonable parameters around what a doctor can charge you, which is the way it always worked in a lot of these Gitmo nation states, which was actually worked pretty well. But now it's become this

33:06 this is what i pay for health care notes would you pay for insurance for your night here with that now there's a secondary uh... mean that has shown up and this is not something that's new but all of a sudden i'm noticing this about what you need is town hall meetings or listen to the news and then they're clipping from them by this mean they started to show up and i'm not sure who's behind this one but i get the sense that is is these organizers that that aren't republicans or Democrats, but it's the people that keep promoting health savings accounts. Now, health savings accounts became legal, it's like a form of an IRA. Yeah, it's tax deductible, right? Yes, tax deductible. And now I'm hearing on right-wing talk radio, left-wing talk radio, town hall meetings, out of the blue, and this wasn't, I'd say two weeks ago, I would not heard this at all. Zero. Now I'm hearing it constantly.

33:57 references to health savings accounts over and over and over as if somebody has pulled the switch. It's a perfect way to put more money into the banks. That could be part of it. Yeah, it's a great financial instrument. And of course, when we have that money in the banks, then we can create derivatives and trade on it. Yay! Yay! Yay! Yay! Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Yeah, that's probably exactly it. I'm sure that there's a derivative guy right now saying how can we just take health savings accounts and sell a package to the Germans? Yeah, well but you know it really what happened in the United States you know we're entrepreneurs, we like to create businesses, you know doctors everywhere setting up these specialist clinics and you know all kinds of expensive equipment and you

34:53 You know, and the system is just... We need more than reform, you know. We just need to rethink what we're doing. And we're just, we're not there. It is all these memes that I pay for health care. No, it's insurance for health care. It's in case you really, really get toasted. It's in case you get hit by a truck. It's in case you get cancer. In case you get a heart attack. It's for, you know, like, insurance for your home, insurance for your car, you know, you don't call I pay for auto service. No, it's insurance for your automobile. That's where it's all gone wrong. People just don't quite understand the mechanics of it. They've been led astray. They've been hypnotized. People watching three, four, five hours of television a day completely, you know, I was at home alone in San Francisco for a week

35:50 And of course, you know, what am I doing right? I might as well turn on the porn. And of course I stop on any other low number channel and I'm just like, it's amazing the kind of shit that's being fed into your head. And now we have the president who has it's it and it's it's quite interesting how this goes uh... in in even the financial times in the same article i'll see well he is nominated ben bernanke to be the federal reserve uh... chairman for a second term and in the same article he is you reappointed him like will hold on a second that's not how it works

36:26 you know, you can't just reappoint him as the president. He has to go through a whole process, which of course is going to be just the, I mean, you thought Sotomayor was funny. Now they're going to have to do another Senate approval process for Ben Bernanke. I mean, watch that twist and turning go. And Chris Dodd, you know, who of course is a total shill, oh yeah, well, you know, we're really going to grill him this time. Bullshit, Chris or Todd. Todd, Dodd. Bullshit. Yeah, I call it bullshit. I mean this is like giving the doctor who has been convicted of malpractice, like giving him a medal of honor, you know? It's like this guy actually... It's like George Bush giving all those freedom medals to the guys who screwed up Iraq. When I was in Spain,

38:15 And now, back to real news. Severely under-reported, but interesting nonetheless. In 1969, the then, I guess, Prime Minister of the Netherlands, Willem Drees, was given by the then Ambassador to the United States in the Netherlands a piece of moon rock. And this of course was put into the Rijksmuseum, which is probably the most famous museum in the Netherlands. They've got a lot of fantastic art. And the Free University of Amsterdam got a hold of the moon rock and

38:57 And they said, you know, this is really interesting. This is of course where we like talking a lot about space and what's going on above our heads, the Naval Space Command. And, you know, of course my opinion that yes, although we not only have been on the moon, we probably have moon bases, the actual… Shut up. The actual 1969 moon landing, I believe, was done in a studio. So the Free University of Amsterdam examines this moon rock and after 30 minutes they say, hey nice, it's a piece of petrified wood. It's not an actual moon rock. Well that's interesting. My understanding is there's only one moon rock that was ever given away to anybody and I can't off the top of my head, maybe somebody in the chat room would know.

39:41 who it is and I think it's an American and it wasn't I I never heard of a second moon rock ever being handed to anybody so I think the thing never was a moon rock and I think somebody's just laughing at this under their breath. No, it's petrified wood. It's petrified wood. Yeah, we got a moon rock for you, buddy. You know what? We should hand out no agenda moon rocks. This is another fine premium, John. We're just banging them out. Did we get any any uh... ringtone requests uh... that doesn't sound very promising no really not a single and we got a few donations we didn't really i don't think we made it clear i think we botched the ringtone the reasons that we had and i want to end with near the end of the show when we get to uh...

40:30 My point where I'm gonna have to ask you to pony up a little bit here Will set up a mechanism and one of the buttons isn't working for some unknown reason got changed I got a lot of messages about that. I'm gonna go today, but the point is is that No, we didn't get any any at all zip zero so I want to congratulate it didn't pan out I Well, it doesn't mean it should it really should I think so too, but I think the problem is we don't have a real mechanism in place where people can get you know, cuz I don't think what you can only donate you can't put a message in when you use PayPal you can use you can add a message can't you yes, you can I don't think I don't know if people aren't seeing that box or what it is, but I haven't seen any messages of

41:17 We might need to set up a customized donation Yeah, I'm gonna set something up today. I'll it by tonight. This is Thursday August 27th by on August 28th or tonight sometime there will be it'll be set up differently and you can go to Dvorak org slash na or no agenda show which does not be fixed by the way that that's Well, is that hosed? No, it's not completely hosed, but one of the two of the buttons don't work. But anyway, the bark.org slash and they'll be working for sure tonight. Exactly right. And then we'll and just and I'll, you know, have a separate button for the

41:57 uh... donation with a uh... ringtone it being the twenty seventh of august i do just want to say that it was nineteen years ago today that uh... my daughter came into the world uh... and uh... that was uh... to the soundtrack of the beatles in my life in uh... livingston hospital well congratulations yes thank you yes that's what you and her chris surname christina yes christina Yes. So I want to congratulate Alex Berenson of the New York Times who wrote a fabulous piece forwarded to me by one of our listener producers Tim Brophy.

42:41 and I think you got it as well John, it's about the software that was stolen, quote stolen from Goldman Sachs by this guy Ali Nikoff who was working at Goldman Sachs and it really goes into what this software does. In fact, and this of course is why Goldman Sachs is making billions of dollars in profit, this high frequency trading actually is is a complete market manipulation he explains it in pretty simple language you'll find the other link to the article in the show notes at no agenda show dot com or career dot com or uh... to work at org slash blog and uh... in fact uh... he left goldman sachs because he was only making seven hundred fifty thousand dollars a year as a software programmer geeks pay attention he left

43:33 because he was offered a 1.2 million dollar a year job at Teza Technologies and what it does is, this software which is probably written in some really low level machine code or something, COBOL probably, binary cobalt and you know so it bundles up trades before they actually hit the open market and so they're making pennies exactly that we talked about you know many weeks ago on the show and and they and they're able to make pennies on these trades even before it hits the open market systems

44:09 And of course the travesty of all of this is that Goldman Sachs through the TARP or maybe it's the TELP, I think it's the TARP, is actually able to borrow hundreds of millions of dollars a day for free, for free mind you from us, from the Treasury in fact, to then go and make these trades. So they have no risk, no risk at all and they're making billions of dollars through market manipulation and it's right here in black and white in the New York Times. Yeah, it's amazing. I've always thought that the market wants to computerize trading thing took place and especially with computerized systems like NASDAQ, that there had to be a way to deconstruct the mechanism, reverse engineer it in such a way that you could manipulate it with another computer program if you had enough money to do it. And that's what Goldman Sachs had when they gave, you know, essentially they've always had because they're one of the biggest, but you have to be pretty big to do this.

45:06 And we've got a major major heart. In fact, I know one of these guys and I remember he was a kind of a buddy because it was kind of weird but we met at the at the Ben Cohen's warm our restaurant one night and we got to talk and you know his spare time he was like a his hobby was pole vaulting and he was this you know bald head which of course works perfectly with Goldman Sachs type guys because they're all they seem to be kind of balding it's like a club and And what he would do literally is work on these incredibly sophisticated yet very simplistic, very fast programs and all it was was just how fast can we execute trades. And if you're really good at your binary COBOL then there's quite a lot of dough for you to be made out there. And which brings me right back to the assassination of that software programmer who worked at

45:58 at the Gates law firm. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, these guys are onto it. They don't want the story to come out. The FBI, I mean, if someone steals something from your company, I'm reading this book, The Informant, I'm almost done with it. And the FBI takes months, months, sometimes years before they go and arrest anybody. No, when it comes to Goldman Sachs and someone took their market manipulation code, they arrest the guy within one day. One day the FBI is like, oh, stop, we got to arrest you. Yeah, this is not just some crack theory of a crime. Yeah, except the crime was he he took the code Yeah, but how do they know because Goldman Sachs picks up the red phone?

46:43 No, I'm just saying. Yeah, exactly. How do they investigate it? They just assumed he took the code. Yeah, they didn't have any time to investigate anything. They just picked up the red phone. Did he have a copy of a printout of the code or was it in his head or was it on a thumb drive? He uploaded it to some open server somewhere. Probably. In Europe. Yeah. I mean it could be just having access to the backup stuff after you quit the company is stealing the code. And meanwhile we're led to believe that Bernie Madoff was duping his clients with a copy of Windows 95 and a dot matrix printer. By the way, New York Post reporting that he has cancer and is dying.

47:27 I feel bad for people with cancer. My mom died of lung cancer, but all of a sudden, oh yeah, he's taking 20 pills a day, he talks about it all the time. Of course, it's not the heart attack we thought, John, it'll be cancer. That's what he's going to die of. Well, there are ways of... of injecting people with certain chemicals and make them look dead and then you wheel them out. You see it in the movies and it's probably over-dramatized and it's probably more dangerous than you'd think. But, you think this guy had to have a... Look, this guy walked off with over 60 billion dollars, more money than Bill Gates. Which we haven't found, by the way. Which they haven't found. He had to have an escape plan.

48:19 Oh yeah. I mean, because he obviously walked right into the whole thing, turned himself in. I mean, you'd think that if he maybe would disappear to some island someplace where there's extradition proof, move to Paraguay, I think you can get... Yes, Paraguay, with the Bush family. I think that's extradition proof. And there's a bunch of things you could do and you could live a good life there. I mean, you're going to live a better life in Paraguay. It's definitely going to eat better than you're going to in the prison in North Carolina. So he'll die of cancer very soon. Something's gonna happen. It'll be very, very sad and they'll bring the box out and he'll slip out the back, Jack. That's my guess.

49:05 Because otherwise it makes no sense a guy like that who dreamed up this scheme and can carry it to such an extreme has to have You know a an exit strategy. I think the 60 billion is just the tip of the iceberg I think it was involved in a lot more. He set up NASDAQ. He was the founding dude of NASDAQ So he was involved in all kinds of trickery. Oh, yeah No, no is a dot matrix pin to a printer with Windows 95 and he went and made up these account. Yeah, right How stupid do they think we are? apparently quite stupid very the Dutch Prince you remember that the Royal Dutch Prince had sued the Associated Press said you can no longer make pictures available of my family yeah so that I don't believe there's been any verdict yet in that in that case but this was clearly a case of

50:54 If you're wondering why our economy has gotten a little bit better, because of course even though the long-term prospects are horrible and that news has been snowed under by the death of Ted Kennedy, and this is actually Deducing this from reading about what happened in Germany when you know the German economy We were we were quite amazed that actually grew and I kind of figured it out a number of reasons But the one that makes the most sense why the US economy economy has not Deteriorated as quickly it's still declining mind you but not as quickly as expected is of course the cash for clunkers program John

51:35 Because so much money now, I think $3 billion has been pumped into the economy directly with real cold hard paper. It's like a paper play. And up next, cash for refrigerators. Yeah, I know. I saw that one. In fact, Horowitz and I talked about it. Oh, really? Cash for appliances. He thinks that maybe they'll be going for cash for sofas. How about cash for hair extensions? Cash for shrubbery. I mean, it's like, okay, fine. They're going to do like half a billion dollars, I think. Cash for a refrigerator. Is this coming from our original? I think you're missing the point. This is all for the environment. We want to get some of these old appliances off the grid. Yeah, how stupid am I?

52:31 It's about being green. So the news of course in the United Kingdom has been non-stop about and it was kind of fun to pick up a Financial Times at Schiphol Airport as I flew over to London to hang out with Christina for a bit. And I actually took your advice John, I took the Heathrow Express into town instead of taking a cab which was fabulous. I got a first class ticket, it's great. They give you CNN indoctrination and free financial times. Completely different edition. Much more interesting because it had none of all the Lockerbie stuff in the international version. And as you already predicted,

53:16 Gordon Brown taking a lot of heat and he finally came out and said something he finally said oh I was disgusted by the heroes welcome that uh... wherever my whatever the guy's name is the uh... the suspected bomber received upon coming home but of course they've all distilled adherence ed well it's going to be quite embarrassing when british petroleum announces the big deal they have with libya which is on its way apparently the deal has already been cut so uh... to lose the ass everyone knows exactly what this was about and uh... I've been receiving lots of emails about, you know, the kind of debunk this guy as being the actual guilty person, you know, the...

53:56 Apparently it had to do with someone else who was on the plane and the detonation device which was found in like 25 miles from the crash site was this exact same detonation device used by the CIA and some other scam they pulled off. So it doesn't make much sense to you know to dredge up all this stuff you know was it 25 years later. Yeah, no, it's like the Kennedy assassination. Yeah, it's like no one cares anymore. There's other things to do. But the fact of the matter was this guy was found guilty and blamed, and so why did he only get eight years? It makes no sense. Well, the thing that everyone's really pissed off about is that he, by being let free, he withdrew his appeal.

54:43 And there was all kinds of evidence that was set to be brought into the open which people really wanted to hear about. Right. And so that was pretty much a squash. Well, that would be the conspiracy, the real conspiracy angle, not the deal for the oil. Possibly. So let's take a look at it from this perspective. The guy's got the goods on who really did it. Let's say it's the CIA. So all of a sudden we've got to get this guy back out of the country and make him drop this appeal. So what are we going to do? I know, I have an idea. Let's do a deal with Libya's oil and British patrol and make it look like that's the reason they did it and then get him out, nothing to see here kind of a move. That's possible.

55:24 and then uh... let gordon brown try to dig himself out of it will brown's gonna eat crap for this day's bill say oh yeah but brown wasn't gonna win anyway so brown is gonna just you know we'll give him a big pile of money and he can go off and do something else You know I was already toast. He's already toast. There's only one flaw with that theory is that I believe the CIA, that President Obama and his administration do not control the CIA. I think the CIA is actually out of control right now. I think they were completely loyal to Bush, maybe even Bush Clinton or the whole gang over there on the Bush Clinton side.

54:43 And there was all kinds of evidence that was set to be brought into the open which people really wanted to hear about. Right. And so that was pretty much a squash. Well, that would be the conspiracy, the real conspiracy angle, not the deal for the oil. Possibly. So let's take a look at it from this perspective. The guy's got the goods on who really did it. Let's say it's the CIA. So all of a sudden we've got to get this guy back out of the country and make him drop this appeal. So what are we going to do? I know, I have an idea. Let's do a deal with Libya's oil and British patrol and make it look like that's the reason they did it and then get him out, nothing to see here kind of a move. That's possible.

55:24 and then uh... let gordon brown try to dig himself out of it will brown's gonna eat crap for this day's bill say oh yeah but brown wasn't gonna win anyway so brown is gonna just you know we'll give him a big pile of money and he can go off and do something else You know I was already toast. He's already toast. There's only one flaw with that theory is that I believe the CIA, that President Obama and his administration do not control the CIA. I think the CIA is actually out of control right now. I think they were completely loyal to Bush, maybe even Bush Clinton or the whole gang over there on the Bush Clinton side.

56:02 And I believe this is why Obama has now set up a new team which reports only to him outside of the CIA Can you believe it? How crazy does it have to get now? We have the CIA a2 and And they're going to be the only ones allowed to interrogate the suspected terrorists. This stinks. This really really smells like food Don't you think? I mean, what the hell is the CIA for? I don't see how that has anything to do with my theory. Well, no, because your theory is that all these things by the CIA were going to be uncovered and therefore they came up with this scam. But I don't think that Brown slash Obama, all on the same side, all run by the same gangsters, I don't think it behooves them to protect the CIA.

56:51 That's my point. I think if they could blow open the CIA, if they could expose it... I think it's too risky. No. No, it's too risky. Well, certainly... You can get killed. Oh yeah, that's right. Two to the head. Hey, let's talk about some spaceships. Quick. I got one. Here's one. This blew me away. 11,000... Sorry? Are you with me? Yeah. 11,000 United States veterans who had colonoscopies at the US Veterans Affairs hospitals may have been exposed to hepatitis B, hepatitis C and HIV. Apparently in this, I think it was a Miami, yeah, Miami VA hospital, 11,000 veterans who had colonoscopies were treated or the colonoscopies were done with equipment,

57:48 endoscopy endoscopy and endoscopy and just yeah that device tube they show up your ass instead of being sterilized it was just rinsed off God I mean that's not just not only that dangerous that's just disgusting hey nurse nurse can you rinse this off yes she grabs it sniffs it rinses it sniffs it rinses it sniffs it So there's a couple of guys who contracted AIDS, eight so far. Twelve have tested for hepatitis B, 37 for hepatitis C because they only rinsed the anal probe. Well wait, isn't this a government healthcare system we're talking about? Absolutely. There you go. That'll do it for you. That link will be in the show notes. That kind of freaked me out, man. Yeah, well if you're going to get one of those tests I think it would. So anyway, back to the CIA.

58:46 I think the jury's still out on whether they killed Kennedy. And then killed Bobby, and killed, well, didn't kill, but then they pushed, what's his name, off the bridge, and next thing you know, the Kennedys are done. Now here's a problem that I have. Not that I'm gonna take the crackpot side of things, but I have a clip that I wanna play that was shown on Nova Science, Now which has this goofy guy who's the who's the host let me guess. This is the rat memory clip Yeah, the rat memory clip so they got the they're teaching this rat They got a rat wired up and he and they have this moving platter And so the rats walking around and when there's one spot on the platter if he gets near he gets a jolt And so the platter keeps moving around moving around he's the other way for them. So there's a spot changes

59:41 What's moving? It's a moving platter. So if he stands still, he's going to be pushed into this area where he gets to jolt. So he starts walking, he keeps walking away from this area as the platter keeps moving around. He learns that they avoid this area and he learns quite well. But then they pull a fast one on the rat. But I found it very disturbing, this whole segment which you're going to play right now. He's walking away. So when the rat stays away from a particular area, we can imagine that he has remembered where he was shot. Then, Fenton injects the rat's hippocampus with a chemical called ZIP, known to undo the effect of PKMZ.

1:00:24 And what we observed, which was quite remarkable, was the rat acted as though it had forgotten completely where the shock zone was. And it explored the arena as if it was in the arena for the first time. Just got shocked. Yet, the rat could learn once again to avoid the shock zone. So we hadn't damaged the rat's brain, we hadn't broken its ability to learn anything. What we had simply done was specifically erased the memory for that shock zone. Oh boy.

1:01:01 So, I guess we can relate this to the swine flu vaccination, huh? You know, there is something, well they had, they injected this directly at some spot, although I'm sure you could make a, somewhere for something to attack this area. The thing that disturbed me about this was the matter-of-fact way that they did it. This chemical called ZIP, they never really said what this stuff is. What is that stuff? I don't know, but it's obviously been known to exist because they said they already knew that it attacked this, they found a chemical that had to do with short-term memory. They found that this chemical attacks this other chemical and then erases the short-term memory of the rat, but the rat is perfectly normal except for the fact that this memory of this shock zone had disappeared and he had to relearn it. I found this to be extremely disconcerting.

1:01:54 Well, the first link in Google talks about this very study and it keeps talking about the zip, this is from 2007, about the zip chemicals, ZIP. But this also doesn't tell me what this is. Of course, this is all part of the mind control studies the CIA has been doing for years. What the hell is that zip stuff? How do we get some of it? I can use it after this show I can use them myself. It would be interesting though, what is ZIP? Here, sciencemag.org, rapid erasure of long-term memory associations in the cortex by an inhibitor of PKM and then it has a symbol, PKM, here we go. The components of the remodeled

1:02:49 Synaptic machinery and how they sustain the new synaptic or cell-wide configuration over time are yet to be elucidated. In the rat cortex, long-term associative memories vanish rapidly after local application of an inhibitor of the protein Kinas C isoform. I don't know, you butchered whatever it was, but you can put it in the show notes. Go ahead. K-I-N-A-S-E. Kinas C isoform, protein Kinas M zeta. So that's what this zip stuff is. Can we, yeah, we should be able to get some of that. I don't know what we're going to do with it. I got some ideas. Honey, honey, there were no hookers in blow. It didn't happen. Trust me. Just take your flu shot, baby. Not a problem.

1:03:45 So anyway, I found that to be distressing. But no one ever talks about this stuff. They just kind of throw it out. Look what happened to the rat. He lost his memory. Ha ha. And it was like, I don't know what the point of the story was. Not to prepare you. You know, we're getting very, very close now. September, October is when the vaccinations are supposed to start. Well, you know, they're now the latest news here in the real Gitmo Nation is they're not going to have enough crap to do. They're going to have to do... Gitmo Nation OG. They're going to have to... OG standing for original... Original gangster. Original Gitmo.

1:04:26 But you know gangster they they're gonna have to roll out the now they say oh the edge event the adjuvant-based flu shot in a two-shot deal at the same time they have the regular seasonal flu shot, meaning there's going to be a three-shot for kids who don't like shots anyway. You can see this becoming a fiasco. I don't think they're going to do that. I think they're going to just put it off until next year. They're going to create another, you know, they're going to have to rejigger with the flu virus itself because they've already done that according to the some of these reports. I'd jigger it up a little bit so it actually does kill a few people and then try this scam again. You know, actually, you know that we're going to reboot. It wouldn't be a bad idea, John, because, you know,

1:05:15 Of course, I believe that there's an actual plan out there to eliminate people. But on the other hand, if you just look at the finances of it, I believe that all the pharmaceutical companies, they're going to get paid regardless. All the shots have been ordered, so it's just going to be written off. And you may be right. It's like we'll have 10, 20, 30, maybe 400 people die. By the way, according to the numbers from the CDC, who no longer actually track cases of swine flu. According to their numbers published, 500 people in the United States have died of swine flu. According to their numbers. I'm sorry, I didn't see the news report. 500 have died of swine flu in the United States. And most of those people were sick to begin with. But I've only heard of one. Where did all these other, where did these 500 come from? And now they're just doing these aggregated numbers. It's crap.

1:06:07 Play a little bit of music for you everybody here on no agenda. CDC says more than 1 million Americans are already infected. It's perfectly safe for children to get vaccinated. The swine flu is coming back like a viral attack. It's like 7 to 6, you gotta cover your back. But not with the vaccine, don't give in to that. Because those medical quacks are making money off that. Ah, you gotta see this video, it's in the show notes. The healthy ranger. I love when the black community gets onto this stuff. Don't inject me the swine flu vaccine song. Well, yes, you know, of course the the the actual news is that Swine flu may infect half of the US population this year. Yeah, it's called the flu. Okay. Sure it happens

1:06:50 It happens. It's a Bloomberg report by the way. 1.8 million patients in the US will be hospitalized. Filling intensive care units to capacity and causing severe disruptions during a fall resurgence. Scientific advisors to the White House have warned. Swine flu, swine flu, it's going to kill you. So we have, you should make that into it. Somebody should take that clip and do something with it. What's the, what's my last clips I have? Yeah, how are we doing on time? We got 15 minutes or so. You've got about 10. You have Alaska Town Hall and Lionfish. Oh, the Alaskan Town Hall is kind of interesting. This is a town hall meeting with some nurse who's shaking like a leaf. Oh, not a nurse, but a doctor. Shaking like a leaf. And this was done by that senator from Alaska who's kind of the, who's also a Republican and seems to be Sarah Palin's enemy and also seems to have some brain.

1:07:47 the uh... governor the uh... senator fields and i i i i i just i i i but the forget it So anyway, I'm not a big Sarah Palin fan anymore. So I never was actually. I thought she was on paper, she looked like a good candidate. Neither am I, but I still feel that the way she was treated by the press was anti-feminist. It was sexist, sexist, ageist to a certain degree. And completely just... And by the way, those of you sitting at home listening to this, screw you too.

1:08:22 You know, people who are saying, you know, I don't care for the woman's politics. I don't give a crap. I do care about how you talk about women in general. And the jokes that are made on every single news channel from Fox News to... Hold on one second, John. Hold on. Hey, so I guess I'm not the only one who gets phone calls during the show. Well, by the way, while Adam's out talking to us on the phone, I want to mention to people that we do need your support. NoagendaShow.com, you can donate there, or Dvorak.org. We did very poorly, and I knew the reason why, because we didn't really push

1:09:02 the donations last Sunday and we usually don't on Sunday but I would hope that we do a little better because this is again a slow week and if you think about what we're delivering here which is three hours a week of entertaining news and information that makes you think a little bit. Three hours a week you pay $20 to go to the theater and you don't get as much out of it as we deliver it. Week after week after week, and we're trying to expand that another hour and a half or another hour with a Tuesday show, but we aren't gonna do it unless we have the kind of steady income that's necessary. And I hope that some people out there who listen to, who've been listening to the show over and over and over again, and you know, as far as they're concerned, you know, we're just another PBS operation begging for money.

1:09:52 And you don't want to give us anything, which is, you know, and I don't have a problem with people who are students or people who want to volunteer some help, you know, website development or pass the word along or give out copies of the show, whatever you want to do. John, thank you so much for doing that. It was actually my daughter who called. She just landed and I hadn't spoken to her. I'd left a voicemail message and I just wanted to say happy birthday to her. So thank you for covering. Dvorak.org slash NA. Alright, do we get to the town hall or are we going to go straight into begging for money? No, I just did the begging for money so you don't have to... Excellent. Although it would help if you begged for money once in a while. So let's go to the town hall. And the only reason I'm playing this, and this should have been played earlier in the show, is some doctor who has a complaint.

1:10:42 about, she's a general practitioner and she's complaining about how this is a dying breed and this new bill is not going to help things. Hi, my name is Dr. Ilona Farr. I'm a family practice doc here in town and I'm here representing 16 family practice docs, which is 20% of the family practice docs in Anchorage. We went from 180 down to 75 family practice doctors because of low Medicare reimbursement rates. Our call group uniformly said that if the bill that is currently proposed are bills, we would all be out of business by 2014. This is a very serious problem as we all enjoy seeing our patients. Right now for a $115 office visit I am paid $40 by Medicare and $7 by the secondary insurance. UnitedHealthcare takes $400 for secondary insurance a month. They made $3 billion last year.

1:11:37 to do is do health savings accounts and allow our seniors to take $300 that they are paying right now to the secondary insurance, put it in a health savings plan so they can pay us, so they can pay for hearing aids, so they can pay for other medical devices without a bunch of government bureaucracy. And people should be allowed from birth to death to Yeah, you know John I think that it might actually be of course we should have played this much earlier in the show You're right, but I think that might be an interesting option to see that you know revive. It's not a bad idea to Teach people how to oh, I know it's anti-american to say this but to save Save money we've we've we've we've fallen into this reverse savings called credit You know where you my mom used to call it the never-never

1:12:31 Never never what you like you never never pay it off if you borrow money. She never called Hey, did you buy that car in the never never and? You know it's saving money it actually of course. It's not it's anti-american It screws up our economy, but maybe that's a good way to go through it I'm not quite sure what happened to the dollar if we if we saved our money. You know how Well, the economy is designed for cash flow. Yeah, so saving our money is not is not many economists will say is a bad idea Yeah, but I'd be in the 20s. There's maybe a good idea in 1860s But of course that's what's happening right now is people are saving their money. They're there. They're keeping it in their pocket They don't want to save it because the debt the future is too unsure That's why you get deflation which I'm also not against shit stuff is getting cheaper. Yay Yeah, well

1:13:23 Deflation is also seen as a bad thing. There goes my nomination for Federal Reserve Chairman. Damn. Who? Me. Mine. You. Yeah, I would be really good. Back to the gold standard. Yeah, you'd be at least a humorous. And I look better than Ben Bernanke. And I'll tell you, Bernanke doesn't seem like a very funny guy. He does not. He really doesn't. He wears funky shirts though. Designer shirts. You see that where the collar has like some Yves Saint Laurent logo on it? Tone it down, Ben. Yeah, wear a white shirt. Yeah, tone it down, dude. And can we have a president and officials who wear ties again? I just think it's proper.

1:14:08 I'm not you mentioned it. I haven't picked up on that but you're right Obama's roaming around with you know polo shirts on. Well that's okay you know in a certain in a certain setting but I see Bernanke without a tie I see Obama without a tie next to him can we you know since when did the tie become not fashionable anymore? Silicon Valley somebody said to me once hey you're the last guy in Silicon Valley who still wears a tie yeah I think it was you. How about the lionfish clip? Now we'll save that for Sunday. I will never use it. Oh Sunday, by the way I think we may have to start a little bit later because Christina is doing a fashion show. She's on the runway and it starts at 830 a.m. Gitmo Nation West time so if we could start probably around 10 maybe instead of 9

1:15:04 That's fine now if you're gonna if she's gonna be doing that you're gonna bring the camera and you're gonna turn it on the movie mode and make a movie I don't have to do that because this thing is gonna be covered by the press like nobody else's business Yeah, but they always I know I've seen this, you know This reminds me by the way if I'm gonna have my last gripe of the day. Oh, hold on a second I'm sorry, John. I was a little you don't have the clip There you go So I have the notes downstairs unfortunately, so I don't have them handy And that was it great John. Thanks love it. Maybe I'll bring it up on the Sunday show with the exact details But here's the deal so I'm watching the Miss Universe Thing that did Donald Trump show oh geez did I miss it again? Crap

1:15:57 It was the worst produced thing ever. The cameras were jerky and they were all over the place and they were doing stuff that was from the 70s, the way they were handling the shots and they never showed a girl's butt by the way. Oh, bad. Very bad. They would have the girl walking out in a bathing suit. I swear to God, anyone go find a tape of this, they'll see the same thing. The girl comes out walking out in a bathing suit. They got a front shot of her coming out, bang, ding, ding, ding, ding. Then she flips a turnaround and then they, boom, they cut to a shot of her legs. No ass shots, huh? Walking back and then they boom they make another cut to her flipping back around and and it's kind of now It's a kind of a head. So you sure just wasn't really really bad direction. They just missed it every single time No, it was every single time exact same sequence and I realized they weren't showing the girl you so you never got to see if the girl had a big you know, I mean you're gonna look at the caboose right? I mean these girls are walking back

1:16:55 You want to see if they got big flabby buns or whatever you want to look at it. It's an essential part. It's an essential part of the whole deal of the swimsuit thing for sure. So you don't know. But anyway, but they had it had the same exact phenomenon that people have to be aware of with these, which I think are rigged. And I don't think you have to do any more rigging than the following simple act. You have to always remember that the last thing in a series of events or any sort of series, the last thing is always given the highest ratings, the highest numbers, it's just the way it is. People always hold back, hold back and then they let their numbers go up at the end. So if you have 10 girls come out

1:17:35 and if they were all exactly the same person in some way or proven to be the same in some you know do you do a double blind study which you can't the last girl always get the highest score one of the last two that they'll always get the highest score in the girls at the beginning always get the lowest score so in this instance we had a beautiful girl that came that was the number two in the sequence from Iceland she was gorgeous and she was broke but she was gorgeous Sorry? Oh, she was broke. Yeah, this girl wasn't broke, I can assure you. But I get the joke. But anyway, so as soon as I saw the first three or four, I said, these girls can't win because they're at the beginning of the sequence. And so this is just bogus. And this poor girl from Iceland, who is really pretty.

1:18:18 She was eliminated rather quickly. But then near the end, the last three, I figure one of those three is going to be the winner. They always put Miss USA not last but always second to last in most of these competitions because that will keep her in. and she was a kind of a perky, she was a good looking woman. Yeah, of course, because the longer you watch these women, you know, the more turned on you get. I mean, that's obvious. So anyway, so they cut, right. So Miss USA comes out second to last, and then the last one who comes out is Miss, who I thought was one of the prettiest women in terms of just being elegant looking, was Miss Venezuela. There was probably about five that were knockouts, and when they're getting to the last of them, I said, and then the last one of the 15 is, and I said, I can't believe,

1:19:02 They're not going to put Miss Venezuela up there. Boom, Miss Venezuela, the last one. Who do you think won the competition? Miss Venezuela? Absolutely. the Miss Universe competition that we did about rigged voting machines for the presidential elections. I appreciate it. You're welcome. I try to keep this show topical. About Iceland by the way, I just want to mention one thing. Remember that the Icelandski bank went belly up and it was an internet, like an online bank that had billions of, well,

1:19:50 euros, kroner, whatever, whatever they use, dollars, whatever they're using. A lot of the money from the UK and the Netherlands. And the money was from the UK, a lot of it was council money, so municipalities who would invest their money because they had some outrageous rate like 8 or 9 percent, something really high. And so the governments jumped in when the bank went belly up. They returned a third of the money to the Dutch and UK investors and now they have kind of like a fait accompli that they have given Iceland saying, okay, you've got to repay this money back within I think it's like 10 years or whatever. If not, you won't get any support from the IMF which of course the country desperately needs, even though it's like 300,000 people who live there. The amount of money they have to pay back is 80% of their entire gross national product.

1:20:42 per year, per year, per year. So there's no way, there's no way they can ever pay it back. It's the super never never. So they're getting completely squeezed and of course the 300,000 inhabitants are up in arms, like shit no. Why can't why do we have to pay for it? Why do the people have to pay for this crappy ass bank who by the way was advised through the consultancy of amongst others Peter Orszag who is in charge of the government of the United States's budget Good work Peter. Yeah way to go dude rocking. Well, you know, maybe there's a reason for it now. We wanted to bankrupt Iceland If you want, you know, they got some terrific wool in Iceland by the way anybody goes to Iceland, you know If you're taking a trip to Europe if you can take a stop over in Reykjavik like a couple hours the airport wool store is probably the best in the country I

1:21:38 I was going to transition into saying if you want your money well taken care of, consider a donation to this program. Because look at, you know, you might spend 50 bucks on wool in Iceland, which would probably cost you a lot more because you got to get there, you got to get a hotel to stay overnight, or you could just donate some money to this show and maybe get a third show a week out of it. But you know, like I'd quit my day job and just do this all the time. I'd bring back daily source code if we could actually make a living out of this. I enjoy it so much. You do. I really do. It's the highlight of my week. Twice a week. I love it, John. I love you. People should go to NoAgenda or NoAgendaShow.com or DeVore.org. I'll get the buttons fixed today and I'll add some other stuff on there and we can... And actually it's really good for your kids if you want to teach your kids about economics.

1:20:42 per year, per year, per year. So there's no way, there's no way they can ever pay it back. It's the super never never. So they're getting completely squeezed and of course the 300,000 inhabitants are up in arms, like shit no. Why can't why do we have to pay for it? Why do the people have to pay for this crappy ass bank who by the way was advised through the consultancy of amongst others Peter Orszag who is in charge of the government of the United States's budget Good work Peter. Yeah way to go dude rocking. Well, you know, maybe there's a reason for it now. We wanted to bankrupt Iceland If you want, you know, they got some terrific wool in Iceland by the way anybody goes to Iceland, you know If you're taking a trip to Europe if you can take a stop over in Reykjavik like a couple hours the airport wool store is probably the best in the country I

1:21:38 I was going to transition into saying if you want your money well taken care of, consider a donation to this program. Because look at, you know, you might spend 50 bucks on wool in Iceland, which would probably cost you a lot more because you got to get there, you got to get a hotel to stay overnight, or you could just donate some money to this show and maybe get a third show a week out of it. But you know, like I'd quit my day job and just do this all the time. I'd bring back daily source code if we could actually make a living out of this. I enjoy it so much. You do. I really do. It's the highlight of my week. Twice a week. I love it, John. I love you. People should go to NoAgenda or NoAgendaShow.com or DeVore.org. I'll get the buttons fixed today and I'll add some other stuff on there and we can... And actually it's really good for your kids if you want to teach your kids about economics.

1:22:28 Then besides of course allowing them to listen to this show and lots of educators are doing this now. We get emails from professors and high school teachers all the time who are turning their kids on to this very show and we highly appreciate it. But teach them the magic of layaway. something that existed when I was a kid, you wanted that bike, you wanted that pair of jeans, you wanted the dress and you went to the store and said, hey man, could I really have that? They put it away on layaway for you and every week you'd bring your money and you'd save it up and then after like 10 weeks, then you'd actually, you would get the product. And it was very exciting, it was a fantastic

1:23:05 reward and you felt really good about yourself. Of course, we're like stealing money from all over the place to pay off the layaway, but still it teaches your kid something. So why not teach your kid how to become a no agenda night through our layaway program which is only 50 bucks a month and before you know it your kid will have a piece of petrified wood with the label moon rock. Petrified. The better thing is some pet... We gotta find a source of petrified wood. That should be easy, man. I think there's some in my backyard, as a matter of fact. I think you should look between your legs. Where's the rim shot? Where's the rim shot when I need it? Alright, so no agenda. We'll start a little bit later on Sunday. I should have some interesting stories to tell. About what? What's the tease?

1:24:00 I'll have interesting stories to tell. That's enough tease right there, my friend. That's it? That's it. We're talking about lionfish for sure. Yes, and petrified wood. Coming to you from the 17th Century Canal House Crackpot Command Center located in the heart of Gitmo Nation East in Amsterdam, I'm Adam Curry. and looking at the no agenda show dot com and work dot org slash n a as you should all do later uh... i'm in northern silicon valley and john c dvorak we will talk to you again on sunday right here on no agenda