Gain of Function

00:00 where the beaches are open. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday, May 21st, 2020. This is your award-winning Get More Nation Media Assassination Episode 1244. This is no agenda. Spotify downloads and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where we're hearing that the CDC now says coronavirus does not spread easily on surfaces. What? I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning.

00:40 Oh man, please, who listens to that anymore? Who listens to the CDC? We've given up. They've just given up. Nah, we've given up. Sounds like they're full of crap! We had some friends over last night, two women, actually just for a, you know, after dinner drink, 6 o'clock, and man, One of them, I think both of them had been here before a couple weeks ago, one of them is a teacher and she had not been out of the house since the last time she saw us and was so freaked out by everything that she had learned and listened to she would not, she social distance inside our house. Now, now, is she wearing a mask? Well almost, it's, it's

01:29 And it was kind of odd, you know, it's like, oh man, I feel bad that you feel that way. Of course we respected that, but it was just, damn. And it's because we had been out, that's why. You know, because we'd been out boozing around and having dinners and stuff and it was... Media exempt. Well yes, we're essential personnel, obviously. We all know that. But it was, damn man, it was just... Freaky. Yeah, you know, and we... We went out to, we had anniversary on Tuesday, so we went to Fix, which is here in Austin, which is open again. Now they're also at their 25% limitation. Have they put dummies in the chairs yet? No, but I did want to take a moment to tell everybody, in order to make everyone comfortable during this time of transition,

02:21 We're letting all our producers know that in compliance with social distancing guidelines, we have filled some audience slots with mannequins and sex dolls. So if you... So just so you know, we want the show to look full, like we've got everybody here. So we go to FIX. That's where we had our first date too, which was nice. And we've kind of gone back there once, at least once a year for some kind of celebration. For the FIX? For the FIX, yeah, F-I-X-E. They had no temperature readings, no signing any waivers, just come on in, no mask necessary outside or inside. Personnel was wearing masks and gloves and there was, you know, tables were spaced out, the food incredible as always. But

03:07 We had a chat with one of the girls who works there, Server. I guess she's more like maitre d', kind of. Although, you know, there's so little personnel, everyone's doing different things. And we've been there before and Elise, she knows the bartender. So we're all kind of like, you know, just chatting a bit and we're friendly. And she kind of opens up to us, she says, you know, the big problem is that ever since the shutdown every single AA meeting has been canceled. And most of these meetings, you know, took place in churches or community centers or schools completely shut down and people are in... and by the way nice to know that alcohol sales and liquor stores are open

03:53 It's real, it's you know, the unintended consequences. Yeah, we get a lot of those memes going around, you know, the beaches are closed but the pot shops are open in California. Right, but I'm just, you know, you don't really think about it, but people who, these meetings are crucial. Many people need them every day, every day. And then so that, you know, they're doing the legal, and it has to be kind of in person, it's not a thing that really works very well over Zoom. So they're doing illegal meetings behind dumpsters. It's insane. No one... It's like the days before the abortion was legalized. Not dissimilar, but that's what you get. It's like no one really thought about this shit. Nobody. However, before we get into all that, I think we need to talk about Rogan.

04:42 Oh yes i think that's probably a good idea yet so i have a few notes but maybe just listen to his little announcement which came over the transom. I guess the day before yesterday. Hello everybody. I have an announcement. The podcast is moving to Spotify I signed a multi-year licensing agreement with Spotify that will start on September 1st starting on September 1st the entire JRE library will be available on Spotify as well as all the other platforms then somewhere around the end of the year it will become Exclusive to Spotify including the video version of the podcast

05:21 It will be the exact same show. I'm not going to be an employee of Spotify We're gonna be working on the same crew doing the exact same show The only difference will be it will now be available on the largest audio platform in the world. Nothing else will change It will be free. It will be free to you. You just have to go to Spotify to get it We're very excited to begin this new chapter of the JRE and I hope you're there when we cross over. Thanks Couple of things about that announcement. I would never announce anything and then end it with crossing over that had such a death connotation to it I don't think that was I think it was subliminal and not intended but subconscious you subconscious Yeah, but crossing over to crossing over sound weird. Yeah, I think it was it was a subconscious truth truth wants to come out We cross over to the dark side to the evil side and

06:16 Also the largest there's no real I mean cry yes, it's just bad phrase never go on sorry the largest audio platform Is an interesting connotation good one? Yeah, it is it is I mean they're truly the largest platform is bigger than Apple Spotify yeah, I don't know it could it might be I have no idea no idea, but bigger than YouTube I Well, let's go through this for a second. Because I think some people are... there's a lot of expected response, a lot of feeling of betrayal. I don't know how rampant that is. I don't get that, but okay. This is what I see, of course. People are jumping all over it.

06:55 But I just want to give a little perspective on this because I think people are jumping to a lot of conclusions. And although I have not discussed this specifically with Joe, we talk, you know, we text a lot, we have regular contact. This is almost expected from him at this point. I would say Joe really cares more about the video, about the video podcast, and I think it's important for the show that he does in general on YouTube that you see the person. He's had incredible difficulty with this. you know, having to self-censor, having to cut pieces out. As you know, YouTube censors anything that is, that diverts from the COVID-19 coronavirus official message. He hasn't been able to really have people on that he wanted to interview for fear of being, well, demonetized happens, I think, fairly regularly with his videos, but really for fear of being kicked off. And I think YouTube, although his

07:57 The majority of his money probably comes from the podcast advertising. I think that's really what is most important to him and I think it's most important to Spotify. They're really trying to diversify into two things. One, they definitely want to do video and they need to have content that doesn't cost them per stream. That's the problem with their business model is every time that you listen to a song, it costs them whether they've gotten money from you through a subscription or an ad or not. So they need this and I think video is really where they're pushing. And by the way, we should mention, it doesn't cost them much, but even that little bitty pittance that they end up giving up. It's billions, billions of dollars. It's a lot, it adds up, but it's still, you know, it's...

08:44 The artists aren't showing a lot of... It's not like the music business guys, the people that are musicians are getting rich off of Spotify. Spotify is losing money. They're a public company. You can see how much they're losing. They're losing money. Just like Netflix. These are losing money. That's okay. That's the business plan. I think Joe was shaken up by what happened to Alex Jones. Alex Jones was in a coordinated effort. He was moved from Apple podcasts, from all the podcast apps. The podcast addict app, the podcast app which you just use to subscribe to podcasts was removed from the Google Play Store because they had the audacity to list podcasts that had health information, quote-unquote, that is not the approved sanctioned message.

09:36 So that's all, I think that those were Joe's main concerns and what a safe, much more safer way to do a licensing deal, which is, there's a lot of things in there. I think it's not just like, oh, here you go, I'm yours exclusively. No, it's a licensing deal. So it may be that not all episodes go out. There's all kinds of things that can change along the way. But then I think the from the monetary side, the podcast where the and I know that this is where most of the money came in from. I told him myself multiple times, I'm worried. You have eight minutes of ads leading into the show. Everybody knows we skip past it. Hello? Come on, man. And so you must be getting heat from people who either want to be first or last or whatever it is. So that was not sustainable. So we had the content issues.

10:36 I'm not so sure about it never being available on RSS and that's kind of where it gets funky is people don't consider something a podcast unless it has an RSS feed. And I agree with that, but it doesn't make any difference to the people who want to watch Joe Rogan. The downside he'll have is twofold. One, he will no longer have the algo of YouTube and I think that's a huge underestimation. And that's probably why they're trying to do a transition period to get people used to the fact that you can watch the show over here. Because if you subscribe to the Joe Rogan YouTube channel, when there's something new, you know about it.

11:17 And he's not doing newsletters or any other way of notifying people. So I think that's going to take a lot of work to compensate for that. And obviously the listenership and viewership will have to go down. Also, if you're not going to use an RSS feed, Is it for sale? Because I'd be very interested in purchasing that. And who owns the domain name associated with it? And do you have any idea how much convenience is going to be lost? I mean, if you've ever lost an RSS feed, then you kind of know how hard it is to build that back up. So there will be some relevance issues that I think Joe will have to deal with, just in a way like Howard Stern, where the medium is kind of the message.

12:00 You know, so like with Howard Stern, the medium was FM radio, morning radio. He was breaking all the rules, saying nasty things. The FCC was the man. And then he went to Sirius and all of a sudden he could say, use profanity, and there was no enemy. And a little bit of that pirate mentality is there with Joe Rogan and the Joe Rogan experience, we're just crazy, we're hanging out, we're doing nutty stuff, and it turns out it's working pretty well, but then this feels like some kind of cop-out, sell-out. And it may very well be, you know, to that degree. Well, the word on Wall Street is you got $100 million. Well, that's not the word on Wall Street, but that's the word in the podcast industry. He read the same podcast business journal. It may be. I'd say anywhere between 50 million and that over a multi-year period. Sure, why not? Oh yeah, it wouldn't be cash. Here's $100 million. Oh no, no, no. Absolutely not.

13:02 So this is great for Netflix. I think it protects all of Joe's upside and it gives him almost no downside other than relevance. But I think he, this man wants to stand up. He's not a podcaster. He likes doing stand-up and that's what he wants to do and the show facilitates his life. So I have no... Can he still use the RSS feed? Well, I think he can and here's how I would view it. Again, Spotify's needs are not to pull away an RSS feed. Spotify's needs are to have, as we discussed, people who have this kind of free content for them. And the video part, they're going to sell ads on anyone who was listening or I presume watching

13:44 let's just leave it with listening, who isn't a paying member. So you might as well have the same ads run for the people who still subscribe to the RSS feed. You could leave that in place and it would probably do better for Spotify than maniacally trying to cut that off. But it does change something. It changes the view for people and what they think is important. And I just wanted to, you know, there's no real numbers on anything. So, you know, he says 198 million downloads a month. Could be, I don't know. I don't know if that's people who listen as well. But I did take a look at what being on the Joe Rogan show and coronavirus has done to the NOAA agenda, if you're interested. Sure. So I don't have any absolute numbers, but with Apple, you can go into Podcast Connect

14:40 And you can see trends of people who are using the iPhone, at least iPhone 11 and the Apple podcast app. So I'm just going to add on March 4th, we were at our 100 percent, whatever, just the baseline of 100 percent. After I won on Rogan by March 8th, our baseline was 200 percent. We went from the baseline, it was 200 percent. A week later, now this is when the lockdown started to happen, so you've got to think it might be a combination, but for sure, Rogan, we went from 200% to 500% to 2,000% of our original baseline, and we've now leveled off at 1,800%. Just to give you an idea of what kind of numbers Rogan's pushing. Go back on the show!

15:29 Hell yeah, hell yeah. It's nice to be got about eight listeners for sure who have actually identified as listeners. Well, we're talking about donors. Yeah, donors. I'm sorry. I picked up quite a few listeners, but a lot of them donated early too. A lot of our normal listing pattern is somebody will listen to the show for two years and And then come in with maybe a big donation or what, you know, anything from $200,000. And then after years of listening, these guys are a little faster on the draw. Well, now, if this would happen to us, here's how I would do it. Let's just presume it's 100 million. And of course, we have a very, you know, you and I, we can't work for anyone, for anybody. That's impossible.

16:13 There's no way. We can work for plenty of people. We have to. We could no longer work for, we couldn't work for Spotify. We're not gonna have a meeting with Spotify about what we're doing. No, that's not gonna happen. But let's say we could just have a licensing deal and you know we had this value for value. I would say 100 million. Everyone who's donated, we're going to send them a thousand dollars. You and I still out make out like bandits. We give you your money back with a little bit of interest. And then we keep going. Anyway. So I think it's great for Joe, I think it's good for his show, it'll last because that was a show that was going down. There's no way it could have gone anywhere but into the censorship bin on YouTube, which always comes with all kinds of crap controversy, and then before you know it, someone says something and then it's off the podcast app. So I think that man has a family and a career to protect. Is it great for podcasting? I don't know. I don't think it has anything to do with it anymore.

17:17 Joe Rogan experience is a whole different phenomenon. I think the future podcast is always what you claim, which is independent. Yeah, the tribal media. You're not dependent on a third party. Exactly. And it's good to know, just like in jail, it's good to know that you can escape. It's good to know that once in a while one of us gets out and makes some real money and then can live like a king. Yeah, besides the Gimlet people. Now, that said, where is Gimlet? Do you hear that much from them anymore? They were bought by Spotify. I know so the relevance it's just like Stern it kind of fades away so that I think is sad. But what did they have? Did they have anything to begin with? No, they really had two shows. Besides Neumann mics? Yeah, no they had two shows and a mystery show, what is it, true crime. It's really that's it's all show oriented.

18:12 We'll see. We'll see what Spotify does. Meanwhile, the mainstream media is so freaked out in general by podcasting and what's really happening with tribal media is apparent from this public service announcement and I'm sure they meant it kind of as funny but it went on too long for it to be just funny from the ABC Australian Broadcasting Corporation paid for by the by the citizens of Australia and they aired this there is some foul language in here an f-bomb coming up but if it was good enough for ABC in Australia it should be good enough for the podcast

18:49 These are unprecedented times. We know things are hard right now. You're stuck inside with nothing to do. You might be going out of your mind. Just wanting to do something. Anything. But now, more than ever. More than ever. More than ever. It's time to think about how your choices affect others. So please, please. Please. Don't start a podcast. Just don't do it. Don't do it. You might feel like it's a productive use of your time right now. You've probably already got a USB mic and a spare room ready to go. And your mate Dave's got some interesting opinions. But we're here to tell you... He doesn't. He really doesn't.

19:29 He's a fuckwit. We don't need your true crime exclusive, which is just you reading Wikipedia articles to your housemate. We don't need your minute-by-minute breakdown of every episode of Parks and Rec. What are you going to do? Send everyone in your contact list a mail-chip newsletter? And force them to mark you as spam instead of unsubscribing? Because they're scared to hurt your feelings? We're in the middle of a pandemic! It was too long.

20:24 for the punchline. And they, you know, it's always slightly overproduced. Yeah, I mean you don't go through the process of making that with all these different people coming on board and helping. Unless it's some kind of internal thing. There's something, there's, yeah. You know what I mean? Maybe we had to do it a couple of the people that actually work at Australian Broadcasting there were thinking about doing a podcast or brought it up in meetings. Right. Don't you think we could do a podcast? We should do more podcasts. We should do a podcast about a podcast.

21:01 Yes, exactly. I don't know. So yeah, I'm not too worried in all this industry talk because you know the podcasting space is an industry of which you and I are never invited to the party. Which is to me always a good sign. I know Good sign for us. It's a good sign for yes Yeah, we're never invited all these events they have all these things that Jen Briney goes to most of them Yeah, I say I wish I don't know if she still does I mean obviously nobody's going to anything during this break shutdown but

21:38 It's like, I talked to her once about it, she says, what, did you get to go to the podcast, the podcast fest, whatever it's called. There's always one of those, that's some dumb name. The podcast hoedown. Podcastapalooza. And no, I don't even know about it. Oh, you think they didn't invite you? No, they don't invite us. The podcast, podcast fest. No, we're persona non grata. Yes, yeah, well also because we figured it out. This is the way you don't need you don't need to have Joe Rogan audience to sustain from your community. It's exactly like a small church

22:18 It is in a way. Yes, it's all church. You see these churches as mega churches. They bring in the big dough That'd be Joe Rogan big mega church bringing in the dough now, but Joe Rogers little community churches. They do just fine Joe Rogan was not in the church He was in a stadium like Bruce Springsteen taking money. No, it's not the same Have you ever seen some of these mega churches? Have you seen Joel Osteen? No, but that is a stadium. It's literally he bought the old Houston basketball team stadium He's not value for value, so it's not the same as a church. Joel Osteen is value for value. Yes, but Joe Rogan is not. Oh, Joe Rogan's not. Yeah, you're right. Thank you. Well, I mean, I can see churches going that way if they were allowed to by law. If it was legal, I bet you the churches would have the same underwriters as PBS does. Wait a minute, wait a minute. You mean to take, to take, why isn't it legal?

23:10 Why can't a church have advertising and let's just call it what it is. And then just break for ads. What's wrong with that? I don't see a problem with that. Hey listen y'all, you haven't been putting enough in the collection dish so here's a word from Coca-Cola. Why not? I think there's some legal issue to it. There's some lawyer listening to this right now that knows the answer to my pause. Why am I pausing? Because I suspect there's something illegal about it. I think a religious organization can't just be an advertising front for advertisers. Well, it's advertising for God. We also have the drug companies underwriting us, you know what I mean? This sermon is brought to you by Squibb. Okay, now you've taken me there, now we need to go into this two-clip extravaganza.

24:07 Because yes, it is about the advertisers and something fantastic happened. I saw it happen live and this is where the president offhandedly admits that he's been taking hydroxychloroquine for about a week. It's got everybody freaked out. In a surprise, in a surprise like offhanded announcement, here is a clip of it. I think for whatever it's worth, I take it. I was, my I would have told you that three, four days ago, but we never had a chance because you never asked me the question. Because you're asking me shitty gotcha questions. The White House, did the White House doctor recommend that you take that? Is that why you're telling me? Yeah, White House doctor. I didn't recommend. No, I asked him, what do you think? He said, well, if you'd like it, I said, yeah, I'd like it. I'd like to take it. A lot of people are taking it. A lot of frontline workers are taking hydroxychloroquine. A lot of front. I don't take it because

24:58 Hey, people said, oh, maybe he owns the company. No, I don't own the company. You know what? I want the people of this nation. to feel good. I don't want them being sick. I was just waiting to see your eyes light up when I said this, but you know when I announced this, but yeah I've taken it for about a week and a half now and I'm still here. I'm still here. Can you explain sir though, what is the evidence that it has a preventative effect? Here we go, you ready? Here's my evidence. I get a lot of positive calls about it and I say hey, You know the expression I've used, John? What do you have to lose? Okay, what do you have to lose? I have been taking for about a week and a half. Every day? At some point, every day. I take a pill every day. At some point, I'll stop. What I'd like to do is I'd like to have the cure and or the vaccine and that'll happen, I think, very soon. So what happened at this moment was fantastic and just a reminder of the background.

25:55 that this is a widely available drug, it's incredibly cheap to get, it is not the planned, it is not the plan, the plan was while we have a vaccine in the making, Moderna has been blessed to make that, we have Remdesivir and Remdesivir, they've even gone so far as to kind of gin up some interim numbers to make it look a little better than the first trial was, which the market saw because the market tanked the stock and then, oh no, but we have something positive, went back up. And that's a $1,400 per serving. So that's really, and this is the pharmaceutical industry, you've learned from us,

26:36 China and the pharmaceutical industry own the media and here is proof, and it's my favorite, to show Fox News, who now have a new name called Fox Pharma. And Neil Cavuto was on when this briefing took place. They interrupted right after the president was done and this is what he went on for seven minutes. And I took two. COVID-19. The fact of the matter is though, when the president said, what have you got to lose? In a number of studies, those certainly vulnerable to the population have one thing to lose, their lives. A VA study showed that among a population of veterans in a hospital receiving this treatment, those with vulnerable conditions, respiratory conditions, heart ailments, they died.

27:44 There are also a number of other studies out including the Journal of the American Medical Association which examined some 1438 individuals in the New York area across 25 hospitals from the middle of March to the end of March. The study was a real chance to look at the... Stop, stop, stop, stop. He had this information at the ready? Oh, it rolled out, John. It rolled out like they opened up the manila envelope that said warning in case something bad happens. This was... he was... he's stumbling through the prompter! This was ready. This is unbelievable. I didn't, I knew about him doing them. Oh yes, you have no idea. It's only halfway through. But I didn't realize that he was, that it was like a prepared script. And it happened when the president said it. Now either they knew. You don't, I, you worked in this business. That doesn't happen unless there's something already ready to go. It's got to be done. The only time I've had that is working for the, in the Netherlands, there was a suitcase

28:46 And if anything happened to the Queen or the Royal Family, the suitcase was to be opened and the suitcase contained the records and the playlist and the exact text of what to say. And it reminds me of this! He's flipping out, but he'll take it all the way to the end, remember! Fox Pharma owned owned by the pharmaceutical industry patient which examined some fourteen hundred thirty-eight individuals in the New York area across 25 hospitals from the middle of March to the end of March the study was a real chance to look at the the benefits that the president insisted were hydroxychloroquine they concluded that among presidents residents hospitalized in Metro say what

29:31 It was without the zinc. No, no, the VA study is not peer-reviewed. This is all bullcrap. No, it's all bullshit. It's all bullshit. Among residents hospitalized in metropolitan New York with COVID-19, the treatment or both compared with neither treatment, no statistical differences. A second study done by Joseph Gilaras and colleagues at the New York Presbyterian Hospital Columbia University Irving Medical Center in northern Manhattan from March 7th to April 8th also showed there were no visible differences that the risk of intubation or death was not significantly higher or lower among patients who received hydroxychloroquine versus those who did not.

30:12 The VA study to which the president alluded wasn't a loaded political one. It was a test on patients there and those who took it. Now remember, this is written by the pharmaceutical industry for Neil Cavuto here at Fox Pharma and let's take it home. Let's really scare them. In a vulnerable population including those with respiratory or other conditions they died. I want to stress again They died if you are in a risky population here And you are taking this as a preventative treatment to ward off the virus or in a worst-case scenario You are dealing with the virus and you are in this vulnerable population It will kill you I cannot stress enough this will kill you and

30:56 Ladies and gentlemen, Chairman of the Board of Fox Pharma, there is Neil Cavuto. And of course we have an ISO. This will kill you. I got some ISOs too, we'll go over later. That's not bad. Man, can you believe that though? And they had that ready to go. Yeah, well this I that which brings me I have two series of clips I want to play and one you I would like to go to this one. I first of all, I have a long presentation on the origins of kovat. Mm-hmm. And but I do have I Am taking the beat of Kaylee Kaylee the Avenger I do want to come back to one more clip when you take us to Kaylee because I know I why well Kaylee addressed this issue That's why I know I know that's why I say I just want to come back. I

31:47 Okay, well then we'll go to just one Kaylee clip. I got two others left, but this is a two-parter and She goes off the deep end on this. So this is a long clip followed by a short follow-up. It's worth it But this is Kaylee Kaylee McEnany the new press secretary for the White House. The mean girl. The mean sorority girl who's up there kicking ass and taking names. I'm glad you're like, I'm glad she's your beat. That's for sure. So here she comes and she's gonna address this 8th HQ event this event It was an event when Trump made the announcement and even Scott Adams made a special presentation on his periscope at night What was his take? Without he thought it was genius He brought him back to the Trump camp when he says he's never seen a he says he just thought it was genius because he knew it would get everyone all bent out of shape and he was just laughing about it. Yeah, I

32:43 And because he just thought it was another Trump ploy. Yeah, but here's Kayleigh going on about it. Here we go. Got moments ago a statement from the American Nurses Association, which says, quote, the American Nurses Association has not received reports from nurses or other frontline health care workers utilizing hydroxychloroquine as a preventative treatment for COVID-19. Why does the president continue to say that many or thousands of frontline workers are using it as a prophylactic? Well, there is a Henry Ford Hospital is doing a study on this now where 3000 frontline workers will be taking hydroxychloroquine to look at its use as a prophylaxis. I've

33:23 believe there's a few hundred or 190 workers in Tampa General Hospital. So this is being used by some. And one thing I want to note with regard to hydroxychloroquine, because I think it's very important that we're as accurate as we can be with our reporting on this. Hydroxychloroquine has been a drug that has been in use for 65 years for lupus, arthritis, and malaria. It has a very good safety profile, but as with any drug and as with any prescription, it should be given by a doctor to a patient in that context. So no one should be taking this without a prescription from their doctor. But that being said, I've seen a lot of applications

34:02 coverage of hydroxychloroquine. You had Jimmy Kimmel saying the president's quote trying to kill himself by taking it. You had Joe Scarborough saying quote this will kill you. Neil Cavuto saying what have you got to lose? One thing you have to lose are our lives. And you had Chris Cuomo saying... Isn't it interesting although I don't have the evidence that Cavuto said this will kill you and Joe Scarborough from another network said the same thing? Yeah, gee, that's never happened before. He knows it has been flagged by his own people and he's using it. Well, Cuomo mocked the president for this. And interestingly, I found this out just before coming here, hydroxychloroquine of course is an FDA approved medication with a long proven track record for safety. And it turns out that Chris Cuomo took a less safe version of it called Quineine, which the FDA removed from the market in 2006 because of its serious side effects

35:14 including death. So really interesting to have that criticism of the president. On that note to Chris Cuomo, I'd like to redirect him to his brother, the governor of New York, Governor Cuomo, who has several on-the-record statements about hydroxychloroquine, saying, I'm an optimist. I'm hopeful about the drug and that's why we'll try it here in New York as soon as we get it. There has been anecdotal evidence that it's promising. That's why we're going ahead. And I have about eight other quotes from Governor Cuomo, should any of you have interest in that. And this is exactly Why we have otherwise intelligent people showing up completely freaked out at my house Because of this of the media really working against any messaging only spreading fear and death and destruction and when there's good news under or not reporting it at all and

36:06 No, not reporting it at all. You get that right. The IMHE model changed over this week and there's now, you know, they've just subtracted a good 10-20,000 deaths expected in the U.S. and they have it broken down by state. I'm sure you haven't heard that. Because no that's too down. No, no that borders on good news Yeah, even if it borders on good news, you don't want to report it And so people get very very confined by the way, this is beyond when it leads that bleed or when it bleeds it leads This is just Trump hate it's it's yeah, but what you would yes, but what no in fact No, what we heard John was the pharmaceutical industry immediately jumping in and saying stop they had it ready and

36:49 as if they knew it, they had the packets ready for Fox Pharma, they had the packets ready for Joe. May I just play a reminder clip of RFK Jr. when he had a dinner with Rupert Murdoch who owned Fox News? Just for a reminder as to how that works and it'll make us all feel much better about what happened. Anderson Cooper is sponsored by Pfizer. Aaron Burnett is sponsored by Pfizer. The NBC nightly news is sponsored by Merck. And Roger Ailes told me... Roger Ailes, I'm sorry. Roger Ailes, not Murdoch. But Ailes when he ran it. ...very well, and it was a founder of Fox News. I didn't agree with him politically, but we were friends. We spent a couple months together in a tent. I was 18 years old in Africa. I had this good relationship with him.

37:47 And he understood the issue of vaccine injury from, he had a personal experience with vaccine injury where a kid who was close to him was injured. And so he knew it was true. And I had made, I helped make a film, a documentary about it a couple of years before he died when he was still at the height of his powers. And I asked him, you know, can I come on, not, I didn't want to play it on Fox, but I wanted to come on Fox and talk about it. He said, I can't let you do that. He said, in fact, if any of my hosts allowed you on their show, I'd have to fire them. And if I didn't, I would get a call from Rupert within 10 minutes. So just so you know, that's what's going on. The call, you know, if you had done that, a call in 10 minutes, the pharmaceutical industry, they were ready. All the producers knew it.

38:43 Hey, if anyone have anything crazy you got here's your packet. Here's what you say. Here's the studies. Here's what your food Oh, in fact, here's the here's a thumb drive. You can plug it right into your prompter and suck out the copy They it's shameful and naked Kavuto should be ashamed of us. No, I mean, I'm happy that that happened because now you see it's not just CNN and MSNBC Fox Pharma top of the list Well, they definitely did their bit. So anyway, Kaylee continues with her little bit and she just kind of wraps it up with another kind of a semi-slam. So here she's finishing on her little complaint to the media about their coverage. These studies though, they're trials that are in their early phases. Do you have any

39:33 evidence that thousands of frontline workers are currently using it because they believe it actually will prevent them from getting COVID-19. So the FDA has approved this for off-label use. You know, this president's a big believer in right to try legislation. People who are in their last- They're a backup. Say what? that she's really a master at throwing back the liberal memes. The right to try thing came out of the liberal side of the political spectrum. Good point. That actually will prevent them from getting COVID-19. So the FDA has approved this for off-label use. You know, this president's a big believer in right to try legislation. People who are in their last... There are several studies that have been brought that the president has actually mentioned that I'd refer you to. There was one out of France, a French study

40:19 involving more than a thousand patients that found that the vast majority had quote good clinical outcomes and by the vast majority that was more than 90%. There was an Italian study of more than 65,000 patients that demonstrated only 20 tested positive of those who were taking a prophylactic and a South Korea study as well. So there are several studies and if you're someone out there and this is a safe drug to use in your doctor, importantly to underscore that, and your doctor prescribes it for your use as a prophylaxis or after coming into contact with COVID, then it's something you should take if it's prescribed by the doctor and that's your personal medical choice. Yeah, the pharmacy board in Texas, they had initially, they had put a restriction on hydroxychloroquine that's been lifted.

41:04 This is more and more evidence that thousands of health care workers are taking it as a prophylactic and of course it's supposed to really only work with zinc because what it does is it loosens up whatever it needs to and then in goes the zinc and you're good to go. But this gave great fodder for lots of people and I think to their detriment I don't think it was smart what Speaker of the House and head honcho Democrat Pelosi did here. Two reaction to the president saying that he's now... Other than her little banter with Anderson Cooper that was cute. Two reaction to the president saying that he's now taking hydroxychloroquine

41:41 Are you concerned? Well, first let me just say how happy I am about your new baby. How lovely. Wyatt. Wyatt, how perfectly named. Now what's this Wyatt? Was it a Wyatt Vanderbilt that I'm unaware of? I think she's thinking of Wyatt Earp. Why is that so perfectly named? What is Wyatt Earp? The gunslinger. Just like Anders in Pooper. That guy's a gunslinger, man. We all know why that is and congratulations. And as you now are a father, you see how important it is to keep the world safe for the children. For the children. For the children. As far as the president is concerned,

42:23 He's our president and I would rather he not be taking something that has not been approved by the scientists, especially in his age group and in his, shall we say, weight group. What is morbidly obese, they say. So I think it's not a good idea. Okay, thanks Nancy. Of course, Republicans got their panties all in a bunch. Fine. Let's talk to a scientist. Let's talk to Dr. Drew, who, despite his many bobbings and weavings, we've stuck along with his advice. Not a big fan of his Fauci love. and worship, but if you want the truth on something, Drew will do his best to give it to you.

43:23 Hundreds of times for malaria, hundreds of times for rheumatic diseases, I've never seen one adverse side effect. I can't say that of Tylenol, I can't say that of Aspirin. Now, every medication has risk, that's just the way it is. But in an otherwise healthy person with maybe a rheumatic condition or to prevent malaria, it's a very safe medication. Do not confuse it with Chloroquine that's different than hydroxychloroquine. Okay, so the different medicine so the FDA put out a warning about both hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine they said This warning in April that it can cause a dangerous abnormality in heart rhythm or virus patients said about both of them

44:03 and that only in hospitals should it be used and in clinical trials. This is not being used in a hospital and not being used as a clinical trial. Correct. That's the FDA standard. Doctors are entitled to do anything they want with a medication. They take on a certain degree of liability. They do when they do that different than when something is FDA approved. We use off label medication all the time. Some of our more common prescribing is off-label, not FDA approved. Now this is for a not a hospital setting, not a COVID setting. It's being used for prophylaxis. Doctors take it themselves for prophylaxis. They prescribe it for patients for prophylaxis. But the FDA says that there's no evidence that that works. No, they because that study has not been done yet. They're talking about the treatment of COVID. In the treatment of COVID. No, preventatively there's no study that shows that that works for

44:55 The president is doing this to prevent, unless he's had coronavirus, and he's lying about it. Doctors can prescribe it prophylactically. I know many doctors are doing it. I know many doctors that are taking it themselves because there's some evidence that it might be prophylactic and it is so safe. Feel like rather than do nothing. They'd rather do the the Chloroquine hydroxychloroquine not the chloroquine which does have cardiac side effects the whole look the studies on hydroxychloroquine and the cardiac effects have yet to be washed out so That's a guy arguing with him The guys he's a podcast like a suit youtuber, you know a big show, but I don't know who the hell knows

45:39 just people who want to argue. And so, kind of to wrap up the last 43 minutes, If you look at the amount of incredible confusion that's out there that is freaking people out and messing up their minds, intelligent people, mainly because they've been programmed into not looking at any other news sources. And then again, if you look at those other news sources, they're all spouting the same message for the big owners behind it, like the pharmaceutical company. And then you have these, you know, our tribes. This is actually kind of an interesting observation. Because of course with the Rogan announcement there's all kinds of analysis of what's going on with podcasting and apparently across the board podcasting consumption has been down during the corona crisis.

46:29 And many people attribute that to a lack of commuting, which I think is true. But I also think it's the type of content. Most content is nice bubble gum for when you're doing something else, when you're on your way into work. It's maybe it's a news oriented, it's probably showbiz oriented or you know some other thing, whatever it is, it's not critical to your life. But what happens with some shows, and I think that our media tribe here is one of those, is that people come to us and they hear At least some filtering of the bull crap that's around them so they can calmly and we're also calm We haven't been have we ever have we freaked out once in the past week? And there it is we've lost them ladies and gentlemen, it's calm and it's calming and it makes you feel good and this brings me to Mike Rowe

47:24 Who was on the Rubin Report, just two quick clips. I encourage, it's in the show notes, nashownotes.com, I encourage everyone to watch the full hour. Mike Rowe is very no agenda minded and oriented in his thinking. And he says that what he is seeing with this kind of opening up and we're starting to carefully Figure out where we're going and what we're doing, but have we really and no I think people are so freaked out They don't they don't know what to wait for they don't know what the signal is I know what the all-clear is and he says it's very simple to the five stages of grief. I've been Comparing it to the Kublai Ross five stages of grief, right? I mean the country's grieving and

48:09 in a sense, but we're all at different levels and we're all grieving at different speeds and we're trying to process a lot of information and a lot of data without a ton of context or perspective. And so what you wind up getting with that, in my view anyway, is the opportunity to look around and go, oh look, he's in denial and he's bargaining and she's depressed and she's angry and that one's accepted it. But what have they accepted exactly? Have they accepted the reality of the virus, the reality of the lockdown, or this weird space that requires us to somehow navigate both? And then he goes into a full theory about the safety first culture

48:59 and how when you are told that you are safe because a company is looking out for you, your safety is our number one job, or this car is so safe, what do we do? We start to take risks. We start to let the Tesla auto drive for a little bit. All kinds of things like I don't have to worry too much about looking over my shoulder anymore I got those beep beep things on my mirrors and so we we really don't understand and can't measure risks as human beings as we cannot understand the risk of COVID-19, which really you have to be older than 65 to be or sick to be seriously worried, versus automobile accidents. You know there's probably still a little bit more automobile deaths in the United States on an annual basis. Let's not talk about the hundreds of thousands who are maimed and cut up and can't walk and turn into vegetables.

50:01 It's hundreds of thousands, yet we don't lock down cars and tell people they can't drive anywhere but in the neighborhood. And here's how he looks at that kind of risk assessment. Exploring the unintended consequences of a safety-first culture through the lens of a quarantine was to me a really interesting rumination because we can be a safety-first country, but only for very, very, very short periods of time. And then we're reminded that the chief goal of living is not to merely stay alive, at least not for most people. And then this fascinating conversation starts to unfold. So that's a long way of saying that for the last 60 days or so, I've seen a lot, a lot of conversation right around a couple topics that I love, specifically homeostatic risk, compensatory risk, risk equilibrium, and all the subconscious things we do to maintain our own

51:01 illusory relationship with the illusion of safety. And so just, you know, like the example of driving and automobiles and death, You know, the consequences of shutting down cities, countries, and globes, and yes, economies, no one thought about it. And the risk was not mitigated at all. And worse, we collectively went, no, we trust the scientists because we've been taught to trust the scientists. And now if you look at the UK, the UK is pushing harder, well their media is assisting more, at least it's Channel 4, it's not the BBC yet. They had this SAGE, S-A-G-E, that was their over the recommendation board that recommended what

51:50 actions to take and they were listened to is very important. Neil Ferguson, of course, was also a key member of SAGE with his two million people dead in America model built on 13 year old undocumented code. And so now people are questioning, well, First you wanted to go for herd immunity and then you wanted to close everybody down and did you make the did we make the right decision in hindsight and So this has been going around in the UK Twitters Where is Channel 4 newswoman is grilling one of these sage members and he's not doing well I mean, did you change your mind on herd immunity? Not

52:28 I don't know what you mean by that. Herd immunity is just a thing. Herd immunity or population immunity is what, you know, But for a period in March, the government appeared to be pursuing a strategy of mitigating the spread of the virus, allowing Cheltenham races, for example, to go ahead between March 10th and March 13th, allowing it to spread naturally, to allow the development of some herd immunity. Was that a mistake? I don't know, I'm not quite sure whether that really was the strategy. I think at the time it was difficult to imagine, or I mean we weren't sure by what levels of compliance with various social distance measures were possible. Was that why you didn't model full lockdown until the middle of March?

53:27 I think it was very hard. I don't think anybody looked at it. It wasn't just myself. I don't think anybody... We all looked at a range of different measures, some of which were very stringent. But it was, you know, it's difficult to say, you know, but it was difficult to imagine just how... In some sense, it was difficult to imagine just how easy a lockdown was, if you see what I mean. Oh yeah, we see what you mean. They were all jitty, John. Oh, look how easy they're going! Oh crap! Stay home, you idiots! That's part of our thesis that it may be actually testing us. Yeah!

54:05 Now we can't finish this up without talking about Sweden. I have received extensive written boots on the ground reports over Sweden and let's just make sure we understand a few things. To say Sweden did not shut down is a lie. Bullcrap, bullshit, lie, not true. We saw the Apple mobility data Their transit numbers had dropped to minus 40 percent. They were staying home. They were expected to stay home. Restaurants were not open. It was curbside and pickup only. Many companies already were prepared for at-home work. And please also note that the typical Swedish home only has two people, so you don't have grandma and the kids and the kids bringing home stuff and infecting big mama and pop-pop.

54:52 getting them sick. Very different situation, but they most certainly did social distance, they did all of that. In fact, they followed the WHO guidelines to the T. They're so compliant and they love it. The people who have written to me say we actually feel we're a little bit superior to the rest of you all. Look at Greta. We are superior, we know how to do it. That's why they're being very quiet about their strategy because it turns out they're gonna have just about the same amount of deaths and that's because ultimately no lockdown was necessary. That's what we're starting to see. Let's talk to or let's listen to Swedish scientist John Giesecke

55:32 who explains here to Sky Australia really how the lockdowns were inefficient and he has a few questions about where to go from here. Not inefficient, ineffective I should say. You painted yourself into a corner and I'm watching with interest how you and 100 other countries will climb out of the lockdown. Because I don't think any government that I know gave a minute's thought about how they would get out of the different lockdowns that are in store. Take school closure for example, if you close the schools when you're going to open them, what's the criteria? I don't think anyone thought about that when the closure was decided on.

56:09 I think there's very little chance to stop it by any measure we take. Most people will become infected by this and most people won't even notice. We have data now from Sweden that shows that between 98 and 99 percent of the cases have had a very mild infection or didn't even realize they were infected. This spread of this mild disease around the globe and most of it is happening where we don't see it. It's among people that don't get very sick, spread it to someone else that doesn't get very sick. And what we're looking at is a thin layer at the top of people who do develop disease, an even thinner layer of people that go into intensive care, and an even thinner layer of people who die. But the real outbreak is happening where we don't see it. But you may succeed, and New Zealand may also succeed, but I've been asking myself, when New Zealand or Australia has stamped out every case in the country, what do you do for the next 30 years?

57:06 Will you close your borders completely, quarantine for everyone who's going to Australia or New Zealand? Because the disease will be out there. I don't know how you're gonna handle that, but that's your problem. Screw you New Zealand, that's your problem. It appears that everything was done exactly wrong. And this was the advice of the scientists who should have known better. The majority, that's over 50, but I think it's close to over 60 in general across the world, of people who died were over 65 and elderly and many in care facilities. A lot were in their 90s. A lot were dying anyway. Many were already in hospice because they didn't want to die in the hospital.

57:52 You know, I do have Governor Cuomo's rebuttal towards the accusation that he killed 5,000 people by forcing sick people to be kept at the nursing homes, if you'd like. I think it's worth it because, again, I don't blame him because stuff is done during emergencies. People make decisions and mistakes. I blame him for allowing the Trump death thing to be sitting up there on Times Square. The death meter. Blaming Trump for everything. That's what I blame him for. But yeah, I think you should play this. So here's the opening question from the journalist. You see two families who've suffered losses inside nursing homes and they're looking for accountability and they'd like to see justice.

58:46 For example, I've recently interviewed a family, three siblings, they've had two nursing home losses within a few weeks. Just so we know, there's no doubt that there was an executive order that put sick people in the nursing homes. This is not in dispute. It's like but this killed people and people feel that that decision killed people and he's being asked about it and his deflection is phenomenal a family three siblings They've had two nursing home losses within a few weeks of one another on two separate floors in the same facility here in Albany in Albany. They felt so much solace when you got up and talked about Matilda's Law. They said, great, we're protected. Our loved ones are going to be okay because of Matilda's Law. And then their loved ones passed away because they couldn't get the testing. So they're looking for accountability and they feel that they were failed. What's the comment to that? Yeah, the comment is this, and I have those conversations all day long with people who have lost people, right? We lost 139 people yesterday.

59:47 in hospitals. Who is accountable for those 139 deaths? How do we get justice for those families who had 139 deaths? What is justice? Who can we prosecute for those deaths? Nobody. Nobody. Mother Nature, God, where did this virus come from? People are going to die by this virus. That is the truth. So he doesn't answer the question at all, deflects to the 139 people who died yesterday, and keeps doing it in fact, fuck it, let's make it about me! Older people, vulnerable people, are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen, despite whatever you do.

1:00:40 Because with all our progress as a society, we can't keep everyone alive. Despite what everything you do. And older people are more vulnerable. Then don't send sick people to their facility. And that is a fact. And that is not going to change. And look, to me, look, really difficult conversations for me. Deflection are my son was 40 years old. He was not a senior citizen, did not have a comorbidity and got this virus because he was an essential worker and doing the right thing and had an aneurysm. I'm sure that was covid related. I thought young people were fine.

1:01:34 And he was doing the right thing as an essential worker. There's a randomness to this virus that is inexplicable. He will not address it. He'll never admit it. He won't admit there was even a mistake made. There's not even a fall guy. Just no, shut up. Talk about unapologetic. Even when pressed again. They're saying still that if the mandates that are currently in place right now that we've all just been talking about in here were in place from the get-go, they feel that their loved ones might still be here.

1:02:14 Don't look look look people Rationalize death in different ways No, it's about the cause of death we'd like to rationalize. I don't think there is any Logical rationale to say they would be alive today. Oh, oh always had sure let's I said from day one The fear is we overwhelm the hospital system and then people die because we couldn't get them the medical care. That was an accountable, avoidable situation. That was Italy by the way. People died in hallways on gurneys in hospitals because the doctors and the nurses were overwhelmed.

1:03:07 and because they didn't have a ventilator, they didn't have a doctor available, and people died. What's that got to do with you? That is a heartbreak, because then you say, they didn't have to die. If the doctor had gotten to my mother, my mother would have been alive. That's what we protected against and we did it successfully. Yeah, you protected against that but you didn't protect those poor people. Which brings me to the question. Geez, what an idiot. They keep coming back to we needed to protect the system, the hospital system so it wasn't overwhelmed.

1:03:44 Well, mission accomplished. You've killed the people who actually flood the hospital system when something is going on. That won't happen again. And I don't know, you know, Medicare, old people, they're very profitable for the system, but they clog it up. So you almost have to wonder, was it just, hey, you know, if we can get rid of a whole bunch of old people, Wouldn't that be good for the insurance business and the hospital system moving forward? We'd rather have young people we can tell they're unhealthy. It's a dual-edged sword. First of all, you have the old people who do make money for the system, but they don't make money for the insurance companies. Exactly. So the insurance companies make money for themselves and for the system.

1:04:37 And so it's only the insurance companies who's got a dog in the hunt because the healthcare system doesn't care if you're old or young because they get the money. They get the money no matter what. And in fact, many of them I've talked to, when I had my cataract operation, I talked to one of the people that was setting the whole thing up. about payments and how much you have to pay for this and that and who what's the best system and what's the best insurance company who does the best job and she just said flat out that as far as she's concerned and I found I had got this verified Medicare is the best they're very reliable you send them a bill you know they get the fees are fixed you know you know what money you're gonna get insurance companies don't like that

1:05:21 And insurance companies argue with everything. That's too much. Can I pay? No. And they stall. In fact, I had a doctor here in the area that he had to close his entire practice, which is what people said that would happen. I would, yeah, that's never gonna happen. It did. This guy closed his practice because he had to have too many full-time people on the phone arguing with insurance companies about every single charge. Yep. I know it's the worst. And his theory, he had a theory, I talked to him about this. He says he thinks that they just do this hoping that sometimes they get, you know, that they win a battle, but they just, they'll argue everything, every single charge. And it's just this nightmare. It's nightmarish. 30 cents on the dollar is what they want to pay out. That's it. 30 cents on the dollar and they get away with it. So I think killing off a whole bunch of those Medicare fuckers was a win for them.

1:06:15 It probably was for the insurance companies. Well there you go. And they didn't want him in the hospitals. We don't want them in the hospital. You know if someone would actually do some work. Matt Taibbi. I just subscribed to his, whatever his thing is, new thing. See that, this is the same example. The Andrew Sullivan scam. Well, scam or not, he does real work and I'll gladly support it. It's an attempt to make money because Taibbi can't get enough work. Right, so I'm supporting him. Hell yeah, well it's only like $40 a year or something, but hell yeah.

1:06:50 Support that guy because it will not have a stereo is quite good is very reasonable he's a he's a progressive lefty that has a very steadfast middle of the road. Style of true journalism he does not slant his story he slants his stories in the way we slant our stories which is the slam the media for doing a piss poor job of everything. I would love to hear your origins of SARS-CoV-2 extravaganza package. You want to hear it now? Yeah, no, I want to hear it now. I think that'll wrap it up nicely. Before we do that, I got a little mention. It was a seven-car Zephyr. So things have not changed that much. Okay, economy still stable as we go, but down, down, down and not stable. It's low stable, checkmark recovery, not in sight.

1:07:42 Okay, so I ran into this podcast again, this is another example, who brought on these doctors who are experts in epidemiology. They're research physicians and ones that, I'll give you their, one's a PhD in biochemistry. This show is done by Mark Young and a doctor, I don't know his first name, Gladden. Chris Howard, a PhD in biochemistry, and Lynn Howard, an MD who is a pathogenic microbiology and infection disease specialist. What's the name of the show, the podcast? The show is called, oh man, it should be on the show.

1:08:24 On the sheet is something like living to 120 I think is the name of it It's a show about long life and they've they changed the topic for this show to discuss the kovat Situation with people that have some expertise and all the information matches what the French Nobel was Montagny a I think's his name Montagny a the The French Nobel Prize winner in medicine who pretty much says the same thing and he extrapolated it from pretty much just looking at the virus. And of course the argument against Montagnier, and he did this around April 20th of last month.

1:09:07 The argument against him was he's a crackpot. Of course. So, it's living beyond 120. That's living beyond 120. Now, also available on Spotify. This is a mediocre transcription, but it is understandable. I did edit a few things together. And I want to mention this before I play this stuff, because this is not information that nobody can uncover. But the thing is, I've noticed that I was looking at Montagnier's material and all of the slams against him come out of India.

1:09:48 Oh, where they make everything. Well, they make a lot of stuff there, but they also make a lot of hydroxychloroquine and things that are positive. But I believe that there was a COINTELPRO operation going on when this guy came out with this idea that the Wuhan virus came from this lab. And they planted all these stories in India, because the Europeans aren't picking up on CIA scams anymore. The idea is you find an an amenable outlet, you put a story into that outlet in a foreign land, Africa. In the Wuhan Gazette. You put this stuff out there and then it comes back and you just point to it. Hello, New York Times here reporting, according to the Wuhan Gazette,

1:10:32 pretty much. So now I've got five clips, it's a lot. But most of them are short except the first one which gives us a little insight into the virus itself so we kind of understand it as a variation on the cold virus or one of the cold viruses, the other one's a rhino. And it's a necessary background, so this is clip one. You have inherent coronaviruses in most animal species. In humans, we have coronaviruses, we have over 100 different variants. And historically, they're nothing more than an annoyance. And by that, I mean, when you consider coronavirus, you're thinking of

1:11:16 Viral sinus infections, you're thinking of common colds, you're thinking of, you know when you say you have a kid crud, a lot of that is caused by coronavirus. They have a distinct ability to penetrate epithelium, your first line of defense in the immune system actually. So when you find a virus that can penetrate that epithelium and activate and enter a host cell, then you pretty much have an annoyance and it's usually a respiratory issue. It's never been the case where it's been so virulent. Now thinking back to 2002, 2003 SARS, SARS 1, they originally said they found it in Bat Cave and this, that and the other thing. But if you look at... Did she actually say this, that and the other thing as a professional broadcaster?

1:12:07 She's not a professional broadcaster, obviously. Any professional broadcaster would never say... She also says okay a lot. She has a lot more to go. She doesn't use that at the end of the day yet. She's on her way. Mark Levin, the great one, says that once in a while. Yeah, six half and two dozen, whatever. They originally said they found it in a bat cave and this, that, and the other thing. But if you look at the sequence of SARS, the RNA sequence, versus the wild type found in bats, there are many similarities. However, they're not identical. And the assumption is that it made a zoonotic leap from the bat to the human.

1:12:53 in doing so mutated. That sounds reasonable, it does. However, when you look at the sequence themselves, you realize what has changed not your typical zoonosis mutation. What has changed you start to dig deeper and find that many years ago, even going back to what the 80s or 90s, they have been manipulating viruses to learn more about them. So by

1:13:29 Manipulating, I mean they make them more transmissible, more infectious. They make them more virulent once you have the infection and it supposedly teaches the scientist or the epidemiologist epidemiological behavior and what is possible for the future. This is called gain-of-function research. Gain-of-function research. Gain-of-function research is very controversial. You have two camps here. You have the scientific community that says, why? The reward does not outweigh the risk here. Why do this? And then you have the other camp that says, it's important. It's important for learning behavior. It's important for potential epidemics and how to address those epidemics. So if we need to make

1:14:24 a vaccine or a therapy, knowing where it's going is helpful in getting a leg up on that. In the wrong hands, these pathogens can be really, really problematic. Right. So that's our background. And I like this, I never heard... Yeah, let's explain that. Gain of function. Yeah, the gain of function is... We have talked about that on this very show. And in the beginning, in fact, because this term has been around, that's where you jack that shit up and you can do you can do fun stuff with it. Now, there was a lot of stuff at the beginning of this that we discussed on the show that has disappeared from the Internet.

1:15:12 and a lot of it had to do with the Wuhan lab, and then it just got short-sheeted by the media. The, no, no, no, it's just a coincidence that that lab that specializes in coronavirus research is in the vicinity. It had nothing to do with it, and there's a bunch of people that come out of the woodwork, a lot of them in these Indian publications. I'm gonna have to write an essay about this to point out this COINTELPRO operation that's going on. I don't know who's doing it. showing that these Indian publications, which have slammed this poor guy Montagnier, they've smeared him so he can't do anything anymore. But he kind of figured this out on his own. But these guys are figuring it out too. And others have figured it out and people know this and what we're going to hear now is going to be an exposition on why this has to be from that lab. And it's not a debunked theory.

1:16:03 The only debunking was of poor Professor Mung Taneye. And the whole thing is just something. There's a scam going on here. Let's play part. What? There's gambling happening over here? What? Let's go to part two. From what I'm finding from the cell lines that they grew the original coronavirus specks on, What I'm finding is they've grown them out, did gain-of-function research, figured out ways to make them very infectious and transmissible so they could work on... You're saying that the COVID-19 is basically man-made in a sense, that it's... Not in a sense. Okay, if you want to say in a sense, but yes. That's what I am inferring here.

1:16:53 We're playing with nuclear weapons here. Well, and the other thing to jump back to Lynn's point where when you look at evolutionarily that viruses mutate and jump from species or change hosts, the main driver of those changes is evolutionary pressure. to be able to bind better. Okay, it's we need to change. The virus is around for one thing. It's not to make you sick. It's to make more virus. That's it. Right? You get sick because your body reacts to the virus. The long and the short of it is though when a virus finds a good mode of attachment, you're going to see

1:17:33 less change. Okay? Well, the SARS-1 and the SARS-CoV-2 have absolutely identical means of attachment. from the ACE2 inhibitor binding to S1, S1 splitting to the TMPRSS2 binding site, it opens up and you get exocytosis into the cell which will, you know. So there is no difference between SARS-1 and SARS-2 in that respect? Except for the internal dynamics of the virus. Which is not in wild where you usually see viruses changing. Are we saying that SARS was man-made also? SARS-1? It very well could have been.

1:18:14 Wasn't the gain-of-function research, that's what was outlawed, that was stopped because the funding was pulled back? Specifically, my understanding is what was outlawed was the chimeras. Right, which is gate which is used for a gain-of-function Development and the chimera is where you take two different viruses and you combine the aspects of both of them right and make a monster Which is what this appears to be? and that research was Was going on I think in Fort Detrick and then they got kicked out of the country. That's where the three or four million dollars and Dr. Fauci and the Wuhan lab came into play. Because that's where the money went there because they can still do it legally and so that's what they're working on. Is it, you know, if I look at the preconditioning that I have for this from movies and television shows.

1:19:07 Wouldn't it be that since part of it was basically manufactured in a lab, whatever you call it, gain-of-function, chimera, however it's put together, someone has the key, someone has the main thing that you need to put the vaccine together, don't you? Well, I think of some of these new machines that do genetic that do splicing gene splicing and other things They don't explain how how specifically it was done. But that's a those are high-tech Methodologies that are patent not patentable, but they're their trade secrets. I mean you're not gonna find out how they did it, right? But but just the fact that someone's there when they created it so it the reverse engineering and oh we need this antibody or this particular

1:19:54 Gene widget, you know, we can we can make this mRNA vaccine with it, which is all different from the way everything's ever been done. Another issue. But here's a this is a side note. But I'm reading all this documentation on Montagnier and he's the one who discovered there's HIV. Yes. Material in here. But he also I'm going to read from a from one of the papers written in India because they're mocking him. Oh, the guy's an idiot. He turns out to be a vaxxer guy and he's also thinks homeopathy is not a bad thing. Oh, everything wrong with him. Go away. He says he also did this in a mocking sense. The guy says you argued during a TV interview with the French channel that elements of HIV one retrovise, which can be co-discovered in which he co-discovered can be found in the genome of the new Corona virus. He also said elements of the malaria germ

1:20:49 the parasite plasmodium falisipiops. What would work against the malaria thing? Do we have anything in the arsenal? Hydroxychloroquine. No! Are you kidding me? So I'm thinking they built in an automatic backdoor. Yeah, that's the, no, no, no, it's not the back door, it's the, it's like the kill switch. It's like a... Yeah, you want to, yeah, well, okay, you want to call it that. So you have this, and I don't, no one's talked about this by the way, and I've only spotted it in a couple of articles. I like it, holy crap. And so that would make nothing but sense then, it says, okay, well we don't,

1:21:30 What happens if this gets out because you have to have that on your mind if you're not really trying to create a bioweapon, right? Or even if you are creating a bioweapon, what can we do to stop it? So we don't get it and you slip in a little aspect that just gets killed. This just dies. How about that? Huh? That's interesting. So that I found that interesting that wasn't this piece that I can tell but anyway, let's go on to part three. It very well could have been. But with regards to COVID, you're thinking... Well, let's first back up. Let's not call it COVID. Because COVID is the infectious disease process. COVID is exhibiting the disease caused by the virus. If we're talking about virus right now, let's talk about SARS-CoV-2. That's what the etiological agent is for the disease state.

1:22:18 Okay, let's talk about SARS-CoV-2. So what went into making SARS-CoV-2? Isn't it a chimera? Isn't it two... Right, well that's exactly it. A chimera by definition is made in a lab. So there are just so the audience understands is basically when you take and Lynn you may want to describe it's when you take two things and basically fuse them together on some level. Yeah, that that's a very simplistic way of putting it. It's not so much a fusion, but it is a way of incorporating other characteristics from other viruses to create something. I don't want to speak on motive or why they would do it. My guess is originally maybe they thought, okay, this would be a good way, a good vector, a good depository to create an HIV vaccine.

1:23:13 Because the problem with retroviruses is they don't have that ability to penetrate epithelium, to get through that barrier. So vaccinating someone for HIV is very challenging. However, if they could find a way to carry it, maybe another virus, through to the epithelium, through the epithelium to deposit vaccine or antigen in this case, that maybe that's a mode of transmission or a mode of action. Wow, let me see if I can get this right. What I'm hearing her say is that and perhaps the reason why the gain-of-function research continued under the auspices of Fauci and the NIH money in the Wuhan lab is of course the lifelong mission of Dr.

1:23:58 Dr. Fauci to come up with the AIDS vaccine and they were trying to find a virus that would be able to inject some kind of vaccinational property against AIDS. Wow! That's a great find, that's very interesting. And we had the... what's the name of it? It's like a parachute. You know, it's like... and if it goes wrong, just grab some hydroxychloroquine and you're safe. It's like an ejector seat. only less violent. I would say what you said is, let's assume everything you said is true.

1:24:35 Why are they keeping this information from the public and why are they not did why is the hydroxychloroquine thing being suppressed? And why does Trump know all this stuff now Trump is that there's gonna be two more confirmations of some of Trump's assertions One of them is the hydroxychloroquine. He was on that early. Why did he who read him in on this and Second he says that the virus is going to go away magically and he uses the term How in these guys will say the same thing and they'll explain why in the next couple clips. So trump knows something and he has to assume fauci's up to his ears in this so he knows he knows if she is also been.

1:25:17 You know, D. He's behind it. He's not even read in. He's the guy doing it. Yes. So why is this information being not only suppressed, but you're being called a crackpot if you're the case of a Nobel Prize winning doctor in medicine who just saw this, he can see it a mile away. Why is this not only being suppressed but being, the opposite story is being told, to freak out the public. I mean, this is not, what is going on? I mean, I'm very annoyed by these clips, by the way. You have no idea how mad I was listening to these clips because we've been talking about this the whole time. You're still in the anger stage.

1:25:57 Yes, that's probably exactly it. Okay, here we go with origins of CARS-4. When they first uncoded supposedly the genome of SARS-CoV-2, There were four subsets that are identical to portions of the genome of HIV. It's like finding a different alphabet in between letters of your alphabet that just got there accidentally. Yeah, it's impossible in nature for this to occur. That was my question. This couldn't have happened. This couldn't have evolved. I'm just I'm gonna put some stuff in the show notes because I just because we were talking about it when is hydroxychloroquine effective against SARS-1 and the first thing that pops up is a article from Fauci's outfit at NIH 2005 chloroquine is a potent inhibitor in SARS coronavirus infection and spread and if SARS-1 the basics of it the carrier the shell the tank is

1:27:00 If that is equivalent to SARS-1, then this knowledge is quite well known inside the NIH. Yeah. Again, this is what's annoying. Well, because the only thing I can think, well there's only a couple things, control, vaccine, money. What else is there? Well, it's a good, you know, it's one of those things where you say that good, you don't let a good crisis go to waste. Everybody's jumping in on it. Yeah. Yeah. There's money to be made. Let's make some money with the public doesn't need to know all this stuff because they're who gives a shit. They're stupid anyway. And the thing is when they question the NW end up with a situation that you just had at your house with the woman that's, you know, freaky, she's six feet away from me and I've damn dinner party. I have one similar coming up. Jay's a good,

1:27:52 old college roommate, best friend, came back from China. She escaped China some time ago before she was teaching there. So Jay says to me, they're gonna be coming, driving down to Palm Springs to visit her grandmother who's 90-something. And she wants to know if they can park up on the driveway so they can spend the night. And I said, we got an extra bedroom, just have them sleep in there. Were they sleeping in the car? Yeah. And I said, well, I just haven't sleep there. She says, oh no, no, she's doesn't want to come in because she's afraid that anything happens and it kills her grandmother. She'll never forgive herself. And not in. Well, I can understand this to a degree. I can kind of get that too. I mean, but honestly, you know, it's like Christina, her grandma, I told you, is her grandma turned 94. She had to go visit and the grandma's in a Popemobile without wheels.

1:28:55 just a glass popemobile and you go, hey how you doing? And it's like, you know, Tina's gonna see her mom. She's not doing great, well she's doing much better than she was, but you're gonna go see her. So she can't actually go see her. She can be with her sisters, but you know, decides not to be with one sister because it could infect them. When someone's older, when you're up in the upper 70s, that's exactly who we should be protecting. So I'm all for that actually. And you know, they look these people know what you are. You're probably a Republican. They don't want anything to do with you. And I am not a Republican. No, I know, but that's how that's what affiliated. I know that's what people think, though. If you these these wonderful girls who were here last night, you know, they know they know for sure I'm not a Democrat.

1:29:44 And we're able to have a, you know, that's an insult to call me anything because I'm completely unaffiliated. But when I say, well, so okay, so what is, what do you, what will make you feel comfortable so we can open back up? Or when will you not put a mask on? And the answer is, Well, other countries do it all the time. So, you know, this is very normal. We can just wear masks when we're out and it just can be a thing like, you know, like other like and it came out of like China. Okay. And I said, well, you know, there's a lot of other information. And that's where the brain freeze comes in. Teacher, she knows how to research. Like, yeah, there's so much.

1:30:32 And I you know people either either you bypass and go straight to the information you can get it then you know that the Journals are out there. It's a lot of work You can listen to our show or their shows like it who's filter it down and bring you some information But if you're if you're really only consuming the mainstream who clearly including Fox Pharma news are controlled by China and the pharmaceutical industry and you're getting bad product shit products dog crap product Exactly bad bad product and these people should be ashamed of themselves and they're making a lot more money than we are But that's beside the point. Did you finish clip four? No. Yes five is on deck. Okay, here's the clip five and this is the I think is the at

1:31:22 In summary, I think this is an important clip because it's again, there's nothing in these clips that we haven't discussed in one way or the other. And I got more clips on the Sunday show coming from the same interview, because they talk about hydroxychloroquine and some other things. But this clip is important to pay attention to because I think this is going on. And I think, again, this is why Trump knows something. Here we go. Again, evolutionary pressure usually is based on the binding. It doesn't change the internal RNA, DNA strands of viruses because they know what they're going to make. You'll also find with chimeras as they reproduce themselves you get a shift back towards the natural type or the wild type, the original sequence. It's not natural.

1:32:07 As it goes through patient after patient and population after population, when you hear there are now 30 strains, it's not really 30 strains. They're still identical binding. It's just kind of changing enough to revert back to the wild type. Yeah, I look forward to what you got on Sunday. This is this is very good. Now, let's go back to what she just said. This explains a lot. This explains why when it first got out of the lab, and we talked about that in the last show with the satellite data and the imagery and the cell phone usage around the lab, when it got out, everyone freaked out. And this was the first generation. And the first generation would be the most virulent, the worst, the most deadliest, and that's the one that killed a lot of people and they had to shut down the whole area. And that's the one that got into Italy because the,

1:32:59 Garment manufacturers in Italy have all been taken over by the Chinese, many of them based in Wuhan, and they were going right into northern Italy. Direct flight, specifically. Direct flight, direct flight. Direct flights, boom, boom, boom, and they got in there and they They contaminated Italy with the early versions of the virus and the and that's when you started talking about the idea Well, there's two versions of the deadly one in the non-delhi No, this was the same thing that was deteriorating and that the 35 strains which is unusual is a part of the deterioration process and so they so those Italians got the early part of it were still Virulent on the front lines. They they took the the first breaking fire. Yeah

1:33:41 took the hit. Yeah, they did. They took a direct hit. New York too, direct hit from Wuhan, direct flights, incoming, direct hit. War! We're at war, John. And so meanwhile, the west coast we had pretty much, and the Chinese that live out here, pretty much cut off all Wuhan stuff. And so we have a mild, like many generations later, and you go to places like Wyoming and South Dakota where there's nothing and if they're gonna get any viruses, it's gonna show up, it's gonna be back to this old just a common cold type of coronavirus. And so this thing is going downhill fast. Just like SARS. People say, oh, you know, we're gonna have to do this for the next 20 years. Every fall we're gonna have a horrible outbreak. What happened to the original SARS? That thing was done in four months.

1:34:32 You know, another thing that I've heard in anecdotal research from people outside of this house is, I wish that the government would communicate the information better. And I think that our government does communicate the information. But it's distorted between the government and you. The only place you can get it is from Trump's Twitter feed, and at least 50% of the United States has been programmed to believe that is only bad, and well, it will kill you as we just heard. It will kill you. So, there's, you know, it's been distorted, and I hope, I hope that people coming out of this

1:35:19 See that wait a minute We're not being served and we didn't know crap and if and if they really don't understand that it's the messenger in between Then those people now they could they did they're not gonna last long. It's it's kind of because they're gonna try again in November They're gonna try this again. It's unhealthy. Yeah, so anyway, so that kind of that I found to be a very unique a very good presentation and and reasonable. And it's the only thing, and the thing about this all makes sense. I mean, for one thing, a lot of people talk about the horseshoe bat. They don't sell those at the wet market. So that wasn't, the bat thing's bullshit.

1:36:01 And then now the biggest scandal is, oh, the Chinese are destroying the virus and they're not gonna let our people go in and see. They're destroying that first generation because that's the deadly one. They gotta get rid of it. They can't keep it around because apparently they, their lousy lab can't keep anything intact. It'll hurt you bad. Well, before we break, I could go and finish this with Kaylee because she discussed this a little bit. But I know what I'd like a I'd like a full Kaylee block if you don't mind I think you can I'd like a three scoops of Kaylee after the break. Well, there's only two scoops of Kaylee left Oh, but we can do it after the break and I have some sprinkles on it then

1:36:45 Well, I split one of them in two so you got your three scoops. Well, before we do that, we need to uplift everybody and let you know that everything's going to be okay. We're on the front lines of opening here in Texas, yes, even Austin, and I can tell you that people are going into the HEB without masks. People are going with masks. I see no apparent evidence of stink eye. Now remember we're on the east side of Austin, so it's not quite the same as Westlake or the Hill Country or Tarrytown, but there's no stink eye. People are feeling good. I went to my first spin class yesterday and it was open. It was, of course, a smaller group

1:37:30 than typical and it felt great. I will be hurting very much later on this afternoon and tomorrow. But you know things are going well in Texas when you get this report. Just everything we possibly can to make sure people have a good time, but it's safe. Kelly Jones is a manager at the Palazzo Gentlemen's Club in South Austin. He says their employees along with dancers and entertainers in the industry have had it tough. A lot of people don't know that our entertainers are actually independent contractors, much like hairdressers. So they had a lot of issues collecting unemployment. They work on cash tips like a lot of other people in the service industry. So they're struggling as well. A lot of them have families and kids. They're trying to make sure that they have arrangements for child care, for putting food on the table.

1:38:11 Now they'll be back to work Friday, but with a long list of safety protocols in effect, that includes how many people can get into this building, which normally holds close to 300 people. We're going to have to cut that down to comply with the governor's order of 25% capacity. Going to be back to the old days with hand clickers, making sure what our capacity is. We're going to have to have barriers around our stages so that our customers have social distancing from the entertainers. As far as private dances go, they're gonna have to maintain that six-foot division between them. But of course, there are also a bar... What? That's a shitty lap dance, man. Six foot... I didn't do it. Get in the lap dances at. ...division between them. But of course, there are also a bar and Sir Food. We're gonna have to go to Plasticware instead of Nice Metal Nice.

1:38:54 Believe me, they were constantly cleaning that place before COVID. You know, it's the Lorax. I'm so proud of Texas. Way to go. Yes, the beaches are back open. Woohoo! Well, it's the Texas beaches. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage to say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in SARS-CoV-2, John C. Dvorak. Yeah, well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Cree. Also, in the morning, the old boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water.

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1:40:35 It could have been for some maintenance. This is run by... No, it's up. It's fine. There we go. No Agenda Social. It's good. We've got Aaron running the show over there. So it's under a lot of weight. A lot of images. Being a member of the Fediverse is not trivial, but it works. Noagendasocial.com. And we would like to thank the artist who brought us the artwork for episode 1, 2, 4, 3. We titled that Obamable. And this was the tennis balls from Mike Riley. Now we had a long discussion about the art, I remember. Yes. And of course the tennis balls were referring to the regulations of not kicking or touching anyone else's balls in New York.

1:41:25 And what else was was in the running there were a number of things Well, it was a lot of art. Yeah, I'm gonna have to go look at this too Because it's probably you know the artists do appreciate us deconstructing the art so they can know what to do There's a couple pieces I've noticed I should mention there's a piece down called by Rude Dog, it looks like, who did a nice little United States Trace Force Department of Health logo. It's a cute piece, except if you're gonna do this, you gotta balance the thing out. That Department of Health thing has got to be slid around over, because it's off-center. And we like these sorts of things, but not if they're off-center.

1:42:16 Now that wasn't, that's something new from today. That wasn't even in consideration. I saw it from, yeah, it is new, but I saw it in the evergreens as I was looking for something for the newsletter. So I'm so, and so now here it is, I told him, so if he has time, if he's listening to the show, he probably is not. I think he's submitted these things just as evergreen ideas. But what else was in this one that was submitted? We had, I liked the tennis ball with the no agenda logo on it. There wasn't, you know, the waves didn't quite... Yeah, the truth surge. You were like the tennis balls with, because of the girls, it was the girls holding the balls. Yes, nail polish fingers, yes. Well, and again, only from a professional standpoint, because I know what people will be attracted to.

1:43:06 And, uh, there really wasn't science, man, science, science, that bad. Well, I'm sure there wasn't that much do art was it was hard to show to do art for. And now again, by the way, I know the RIC is coming in comic strip blogger once again, as he does. Constantly apparently never listens to the show because I have said a million times that I'm vetoing any art that has a coronavirus I think it's a creepy-looking thing And I will not accept anything and he keeps doing I don't know if he's doing it on purpose because he's that way it always reminds me by the way any if you go on an image search any virus will look like this one and

1:43:53 Any rendering of a virus always looks like this. It's a different color and that makes it Corona. It's bullcrap and it looks like one of those crazy Mines from the submarine movies in this case. It looks like a sub mine. Yeah run run silent run deep and right a mine ice station zebra, you know my these Mines look like that Agreed agreed Well, we're very appreciative of Mike Riley for for doing that artwork for us. It was a great great value to the show And I I know that it's a fact that's scientific that people who gladly click on that because hey, there's something new going on It's not the same art throughout the whole list is something new

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1:45:20 No, this probably has to all be written down and then you have to use a little thing like a hole switched in it. A decoder ring. I'm always excited about Seronimus of Dogpatch's note, so I'm sure he sent one with this. Yes. Good. Yes, he did. As those are long but always entertaining thank you for the thank you to the many producers for their in the invaluable and varied support of the show the resources remain incredible although the repair of the.

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1:46:53 He continues, he says, truth, truth, truth from lack of advertising can survive and thrive by donating. Angelic Knight's steed, Morroboro, took his owner into the sunset. None of us gets out of this alive, but those with faith have something to look forward to at the next level. Without doubt, his chosen knightly name fits his next level. During a recent four-hour conference call that included eight medical PhDs, all experienced and high-level professionals in the medical field, their frustration was clear. The frustration emanated from their training and experience being contradicted by bureaucrats. Yet they have to follow guidelines or face consequences. Obstetricians, divorce lawyers, and litigation attorneys will be busy in the third quarter.

1:47:54 A suggested paradigm, an angry president whose business empire is severely damaged will seek a perpetrator and more importantly look to recover damages. History shows Trump uses litigation as punishment, believing he can outlast any opponent or bankrupt them along the way. He has heard every insult from union workers or suppliers, from his business methods with indifference. His approach to the media is similar, a cavalier so sue me. I will still be rich and you will still be gone long before me. With the Justice Department as the prosecutor and China never paying him a penny, I anticipate he will pursue firms with money. That qualifier spotlights pharmaceutical firms.

1:48:48 Now, I'll mention something after I finish reading this. Banks were a great source of fines during the last recovery. Why not healthcare companies and especially pharmaceutical firms that moved everything to China for their profit benefit, costing the US government trillions? I look for investigations and fines beginning in 2021. Of course, China will be complicit as a Contaminator. I can tell you what's gonna happen. There'll be a lot of noise and then after three years we'll have a great Matt Taibbi piece to look at. That'll be it. Well one of the things going on I think with this cover-up of the Wuhan lab and I'm gonna call it that even though is it there with the other side would call it a conspiracy. But I'm calling it a cover-up because that's what it is because there's no evidence that there's that I mean it's the only thing that makes any sense. I have I have a series of China clips coming up so we'll get into that for sure. That at some point

1:49:51 Someone has, there's hell to be paid and I think Fauci's gonna have to pay it at some point, even though he's the darling of the left. Anyway, he continues, no jingles, no karma. Dame Drive reminder, gender specific women on day of donation and immediately prior show share equally in credit. He's talking in code here a lot. I think he's been speaking in a lot of Arabic. His English needs to get out of Saudi Arabia. Maybe you need to read it from right to left. Credit in equally, share, show, prior, immediately and donation of the day on women specific gender reminder drive Dame. Okay. So I think that means

1:50:42 I don't know what it means. Somehow he gives away his title to a dame who is on show day or before. Oh man. An immediate show prior. Yes, exactly. And it has to be a woman. Okay, so now do I get the spreadsheet from the last show and then we pick one? Or how does that work? I have the spreadsheet here. It's an unknown variable. We'll have to talk about this after the show and make decisions. Yeah, because I want, I want, I want to have the last show woman did claim she wanted to get this, this from, from him and she put her, we still have a woman early on and I can't remember her name and I wish she'd come back and say, Hey, it was me who said something that she wanted to be the first Dame in his process. And I believe she should be, but I don't know who she is anymore. And I can't read enough of these through these spreadsheets to find her.

1:51:39 By the way, how the woes that we suffer. Your cold read backwards was better than forwards. It's astounding. Okay, well let's do that meeting after the show. That's not unusual. I want to make sure we get this done. Thank you so much, Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia. We don't know who you are. We love that you send notes through Western Union. We feel privileged to be bestowed with your wisdom, it seems, every four to six weeks. And your wisdom includes your fantastic support of No Agenda. Thank you. Thank you so much. keeps us away from the advertisers. One word was Sir Walkman of Buckeye, $333.33, ITM Gents. As I open my protectorate back up from the oppressive Governor Mike DeWine of Ohio, a rhino, or I, you know, Republican in name only, I would like to send a message to slaves. Drink and be merry! Those interested in a No Agenda meetup in Northeast Ohio, drop me a message on No Agenda Social under at Methos.

1:52:42 That's at sign methods meth OS. I would like to send a goat coming to my smoking scratch that morbidly gorgeous John prefers obscenely gorgeous wife Laura or nickname. or nicknamed Toontz's the data queen. Toontz's the data queen. Toontz's the data queen. Sorry, Adam, for that drunk email at 3 a.m. the other night. So it took me 15 minutes to craft that error-ridden sentence about a dementia bee hitting the mouth. No jingles, no karma. Walkman of Buckeye. So there's no goat for his woman there?

1:53:25 What does he say? He says, I would like to send a goat karma to my smoking scratch that morbidly gorgeous and then he says no jingle. Oh just karma. There you go. No jingle just karma. Oh JK yeah. Yeah, and he wants the goat. He got it. Here it is man. You've got karma. I got a lot of grief for my complaining about smoking hot. Oh really? I got nothing but positive. Well good, the grief went along these lines. It's a tradition! It's a tradition? No it's not. Baron Foxbat is next on the list of the Cook Islands where you get that gorgeous tan. $333.33 in Cocoa Beach, Florida.

1:54:14 Hi John and Adam, greetings to you both from sunny Cocoa Beach, the Space Coast. Here's my thanks to you for helping everyone cope with the Rona mania that has consumed the information space. As for myself, I have gotten frustrated with the lockdowns in Ohio, so I've decided to take refuge in Florida where the beaches are open! Yeah. Welcome to the American 2020 where going on vacation is a subversive act. But it seems like Ohio is now opening back up, so I may be returning there shortly. Assuming my neighborhood isn't underwater because of the recent flooding in the area. Anyway, thanks for all that you do. And John needs to stay black. No jingles, no karma, please. Baron Fox bat. All right. You do that.

1:55:06 I will. Sir Dave, oh here we go. Sir Dave Fugazotto, Duke of America's Heartland and the Arabian Peninsula. We should have a jingle for him, he's a duke. Yes, but even worse than that, I know he's looking for a Fletcher Corona yell, but I can't find it. I looked before the show as I was going to prep it. Maybe Fletcher can email me a copy real quick. If he's listening. Yeah, he may be listening. 330-320. He's in Gladstone, Missouri. He's got a Go Karma and Gitmo Nation anthem maybe for the end of the show. In the morning, Grubbus and Squirmer, you know who you are. Yeah, I think he's referring to my chair.

1:55:52 I'd Mubarak from the kingdom at Ramadan comes to a close in a couple of days. We will be back on a 24 hour lockdown for five days in an attempt to break the disease chain. Since the country loosened up on the restrictions during what is Saudi Arabia's equivalent of Thanksgiving to Christmas shopping period with the expected results. Gotta flatten that curve. I also want to wish a very happy birthday to my formerly smoking hot wife. for legal purposes must now be officially referred to as the Marvelous Day melody of the classic Cougar. At least it opened up the gates of creativity. This is when rules open up creativity. I would like to have been home for her birthday and graduation because she's got a master's from UT Austin, but no such luck. Thanks a lot, coronavirus.

1:56:49 Please insert Fletcher's coronavirus scream here. Please give my classy cougar a huge helping of birthday goat karma and there's a space at the end of the show. Queue up to get Monation National Anthem. Thank you for your courage, Dave Fugazotto, Duke of America's heartland and Arabian Peninsula. Yes, and in that time I was not able to acquire the requested jingle, but I will give you another fine one and I'll make up for it and Gitmo Nation National Anthem will be programmed for the end. Thank you so much, your Dave Fugazotto. We got our eye on your ladies. They're all good. Coronavirus, if the Wuhan flu doesn't kill you, the media panic will. Now do whatever the government tells you to do. You've got

1:57:35 karma. Another birthday boy this donation and the associated executive producership goes to my smoking hot wife. There we go Aaron Aaron title now, let's see here. This is not this is not an associate associate Okay, he means executive producership. He just used the word associate. That's a question. I know I know what in context I know what it means for a birthday Friday May 22nd we previously donated for a brother's birthday and you got my note a bit wrong Oh

1:58:15 TLDR, too long, didn't read. She is the one who hit me in the mouth after about a month of dating. She's definitely a keeper. No kidding. Couples who listen to the best podcasts in the universe together stay together. Thanks for keeping us sane with everything going on and providing an excellent perspective on the nonsense in the M5M. Keep up the good work. Matt from Wentzville. Wentzville, thank you, Matt. Wentzville. And your birthday is lined up. Kevin Gar- Gar- Giulio. Gar-Giulio. Gar-Giulio. Gar-Giulio. Gar-Giulio. Gar-Giulio. Gar-Giulio. In Italy. Faculo Gargiulo. 333, in Sugar Hill, Georgia.

1:58:59 First time donor, Kevin. I've been a, and by the way, thank you for writing out your name. I've been a douchebag according to the best podcast in the universe. Oh well, here we are. Don't waste any time on jingles, karma, de-douching or other such frivolities. For my sake, I enjoy the show and have recommended it to many to listen to and it's high time I pitched in. I will try to do better in the future. If you're ever in Atlanta, Georgia, stop in for a Corona beverage, of course. Thank you. Yes, Kevin. Well, welcome, man. Welcome, citizen. Thank you very much for your support of the show. It is, after all, your podcast and the best podcast in the universe. Mark Bensick is next on the list from Lansing, Michigan. 250 bucks, you'll be the associate executive producer. ITM purveyors of sanity.

1:59:47 Many thanks for this scalpel cutting through the M5M obfuscation to the heart of truth. I have been remiss in my value for value contract. Here is a simultaneous payment toward my debt, stimulus payment toward my debt. If I may, I would like to hear some kung fu fighting and I just love the sound of Climategate, which 97% of people seem to have forgotten about. Cheers, Mark. Capital of that woman's state. That woman, that woman, the governor, she's... And was there also a karma involved in all that? No, I think we should throw one at him since it's easier. Okay, I think I have some Kung Fu fighting. Do I? Here we go. Everybody was a Kung Fu fighter.

2:00:41 To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate. There you go. Remember that? The old climate gate? Jeez, that's the worst. You've got karma I mean one of the funniest tweets ever seen I don't know why it's so funny to me But somebody wrote about this kung fu fighting because it was floating around again. Yeah, I really doubt and then in quotes Everyone was coming for fighting It's a classic joke for a song from 1973 yeah, it does it does it's still good I

2:01:21 Yeah, well, yeah. Sir Daddy Cast comes in with 250 bucks from Richmond, Virginia. Sir Daddy Cast, baronet of the Love House, giving is love and love is giving. Would like to add my name to the birthday shout outs for this week, keeping the actual day and age a secret. Also would appreciate a shout out to my son's new podcast, The Starting Five. He and four friends, all missing the end of their senior year of high school, thank you very much, which has gotta be annoying, have put their extra time, you got the dances and all the things you can do, they put their extra time toward a weekly podcast on Tuesdays to avoid any conflict with the best podcast in the universe. If you could give them a shout out for the starting five featuring Josh Reed, Will, Bird, and Jameson.

2:02:15 That would be very cool. Also, in lieu of a jingle request, there's a special segment and catchphrase is a hot take. It'd be too much to ask you guys to give them a couple of sound bites. Both saying this is good. This is what I would call a segment. Well, hold on, hold on, hold on. We're going to have to produce this. Hold on a second. Let me get the reverb up. All right, give me a little level. I want to make sure we sound like big balls. I want to read the rest of this while you're doing that. Both saying, now that's a hot take, and John tapping onto the cranky old geek saying that's not a hot take. Listeners, producer, okay. We both say that's a hot take, and then I say that's not a hot take. Okay, so we just say the hot take together? I think so, yeah. So you got to count me down. One, two, three, four.

2:03:05 No, I mean to count us down into the bit. We have to say... Okay, so three... you start at three. Three, two, one... Now that's a hot take! Where were you? I dropped the ball. Let's try it again. Ready? Yeah. Three, two, one... Now that's a hot take! And then... That's not a hot take! No, it has to be a little more like, that's not a great question idea. That's not a hot take! Think that's better? That's nailed it. Nailed it. All right, let's bring the reverb back down. Lastly, I've seen very few downloads of the 3D print designs for the nightstand, ring and certificate. Maybe something a producer would like to use that for a special gift on Father's Day and this Thingiverse thingiverse. Anyway, we'll put a link because it's an actual play effect.

2:04:05 WWW thing is THI and I verse I'll put up put up put don't worry. I'll put it in the I'll put it in his credit I'll link the sir daddy cast to that thingy verse. How's that? Okay, Logan Isaacs next on the list doing a two dollars from Carlisle, Illinois ITM fellows shout out to my ravishing my ravishing broad daughter Ellie discovered the show via JCDN greymerica and have been, I'm catching up to the Rogan show. Yeah, nice. And have been listening ever since. I like it. China is asshole. Mac and cheese life and Pelosi jobs cover for my fellow South Illinois slaves. You got it. Donald Trump don't trust China. China is asshole. Mac and cheese.

2:04:58 Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. And look what I got. This is how great our show is, this is how great our producers are. Thank you very much, Patrick Seymour. Corona! Virus. There you go. It has arrived in the studio. The courier just got here. The tapes have been racked, and it's good. Markley Markley's next from Martin, Ohio, 200 bucks. We got a bunch of $200 ones today. It's very interesting. It's cool. In the morning from Martin, Ohio, New York, Toledo, I'm a first-time donor could use a de-douching. You got it. You've been de-douched.

2:05:41 Thank you both for your deconstruction of the mainstream lies and for keeping me sane through this time. Here in Ohio, the state is held hostage by our health director, Amy Acton. She is able to shut down the state based on a 100-year-old law. There's a bill in our house that would remove this power, but our governor, Mike DeWine, says he will not sign it. Can I get a WTC7 followed by Leo, I'm a rule follower, followed by Goat Scream Karma, thank you for all you do, Carl. WTC7 won't go away. I'm a rule follower, right? What do you do? Are you a rule follower?

2:06:27 There you go. Sir Lauren Osterman in Sills. Oh, he's in Austria. Sills to roll. Tyrol, I guess. He wants to be mentioned is from Innsbruck. I went through Innsbruck once. Forgive me, yes, on the train. I stopped in Innsbruck. Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned after a few small donations way back. I was instant knighted and showed 406 in 2012, back when the concept of protectors was not even established. And I believe I have not donated more than $100 since then. I would like to start making up for this with today's Associate Executive Producer contribution and kindly request a de-douching.

2:07:16 You got it. You've been D-douched. This show has accompanied me through my undergraduate and graduate studies, keeping me sane. And now four years after finishing my PhD, I'm up for a big grant decision this coming Monday. Trusting in the NA jobs karma, I humbly ask for the following jingle combination. Original Nancy Pelosi jobs karma, goat karma, The original Nancy Jobs goat karma. I don't know if that's that's not right. No, it works. Okay, this is a combo. He does want a combo. Yeah. He wants a Nancy with goat karma. He wants a Nancy Jobs karma with twist a goat. With goat on the side. Yes, a jerked goat and then a shut up science after the girt is joked. The goat is jerked.

2:08:09 If possible, could my title be changed to Sir Lauren Osterman? I don't know if he was on the list for updates. Knight of the Tyrolean Alps, as protectorates were not available when I was...no, they were always available. But I guess this is up to the peerage committee. Thanks for...and the knight of something is not really a...that's not a protectorate, it's just your title. It's just your hood. Thanks for navigating all of us through those weird times now more than ever. Yes, and good news The peerage committee has accepted that so that that title change will be made and here's your request in a sequence jobs Jobs jobs and jobs. Let's vote for job You've got karma Already science

2:09:05 Good old Dr. Kiki. Next is Zachary Lally in Houston and you have a note. Do I now? Because I have a feeling I looked for this note and was unsuccessful in finding it but one moment I will check again. Zachary. Okay. I don't think so John. Let me just... Oh no, here it is, here it is. I did get it. Okay. From Zachary. Been listening to you and John since the run up to the 2016 election. Found your podcast as I search for less bullshit than I was seeing on TV or while reading the hill.com. I work in medical device sales and haven't missed an episode since sometime in the spring of 2015. Total douchebag, but we have officially sent some value back to you fine gentlemen.

2:10:11 The reason I'm sending this is to share this clip of Banyan breaking down CNN and referring to the anchors as actors. Seemed relevant. May I suggest some jobs, karma, and an Al Sharpton freestyle? Thank you for your courage. P.S. No clue if this is how it works, says Zach from Houston. Close enough, Zach. Close enough. So let me get you some Some Sharpton, Sharpton Freestyle and very happy to give a jobs card. R-E-S-P-I-C-T Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You thought, how much? There you go, thank you sir.

2:11:00 And onward with Walt Tyson, a knight of the Corn Belt conspiracies. It's from Walt. This donation is on behalf of my smoking hot wife, Amy, for her thirty third birthday on May twenty first. She is the best mother of my children and partner that the best mother and partner a man can hope for. She is smart. She's funny and more. Patient more patient than I deserve We have been listening together for five years now and I met Adam at the big Des Moines meetup Yes as for my 33rd birthday She actually got me a half-price knighthood on your 1000th show or maybe it was your 10th anniversary. Don't know So the least I could do was use of the last of my fantasy football winnings to donate to her Dame hood feel free to match

2:11:59 Sir Ominous of Dogpatch. There's nothing like a dame after all. For jingles, all I want is a love you mean it. Happy birthday, Amy. Okay, now do we have a winner here? I mean, does this make sense? Didn't we decide to discuss this after the show? Yes, we did. Can we put a pin in this so we can remember it? I think we need to do that, yes. Just say, put a pin in it. You know, this guy's backed up so many Damehoods that we could probably put both these women on. Okay, so yes, on the birthday list we have a meeting about this very situation and here's your request. Love you, Maynette. That's it. Love you, Maynette. Love you, Maynette. Got it. Yeah. And I see a familiar name. Love you like sincerity. Familiar name here. Fred Castaneda. Is this Sergeant Fred? It must be. He's in Austin. This is Sergeant Fred, yes. Our Vietnam vet.

2:13:01 He sent in a long note, which I will try to read, because it's in long hand. My donation, I find it hard to believe that he wrote this. Sergeant Fred at the2030podcast.com. His printing looks, well, I don't know, maybe he could have this kind of head. And it could be a, it opens with what looks like a woman's handwriting, then it deteriorates so that it's obviously a guy. My donation of $200 you'll get to make me an associate executive producer. It gives a shout out, I would like to ask you, it should give a shout out, I would like to ask you to deliver Babymaking Karma to my daughter, Maria. Yes.

2:13:41 and her husband Matt Cox, who is also a podcaster, who isn't, with his show over 13 years called Brunch with the Brits.net. especially since Matt is visually impaired. In addition, I would like to ask for these jingles, little brother. Ready? Get your pen out. Mac and cheese, Mac and cheese live, Mac and cheese, drone again, naturally, drone again, naturally, and goat karma. Okay, so that's not too complicated. Thanks for all you do, he continues writing. He puts that right at the top. Keeping us all sane as Matt and I have been

2:14:24 meant something, turning others around from the memes of the lamestream media by hitting them in the mouth. Our best to you and on to Keeper to publish true deconstructions regardless of the face bag and Google takedowns of videos and episodes that tell the truth, that conflict with the agendas of the left, sincerely. Airborne all the way. And he says, paratrooper and Vietnam War combat vet who is still suffering from medical complications from Agent Orange. A lot of people have these issues. Sergeant Fred, 2030podcast.com.

2:15:07 Sergeant Fred has been with the show, well ever since I've been in Austin, so for 10 years at least. I think he's one of the main donators of Double Nickels on the Dime. He would send, actually with the Double Nickels and the Dime taped up, scotch tape. I've met him several times. A lovely guy, has a lovely family. Definitely lost touch with him for a little bit and I think that was part of the complications from Agent Orange, but I'll take it once and for this case Is he a Vietnam hero is what he is and really good to hear from you sergeant Fred glad you're doing okay And here's what you want, buddy

2:15:45 You slaves can get used to mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Macaroni and cheese cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese, ha ha, mac and cheese. Hey everybody! You can be a drone again, naturally. You've got karma. He mentions his pod, the 2030podcast.com, but he also says my podcast, the economy podcast we got from this family, the struggling, it's the struggling, I think bio or bib or I don't know what this word is. He's got a, it's the struggling bib or the struggling bio.com. It could be the struggling big. Oh, I'm trying to think, I'm trying to think.

2:16:37 I don't know, whatever it is, it's like gub. So Woody Allen referenced anybody out there. Anyway, I wanna thank Sergeant Fred for his contribution. Thank you, Sarge. And that wraps it up for our executive group of associate executive producers and executive producers for show 1244. Yes, thank you all so very much. You're all here. We're all here. Our tribe is complete. We're complete and we're compete. We're competing with the mainstream, but they can't get past us. Because we've got you guys, all this information coming in. I've received more clips, even pre-made clips. It's fantastic. Time code lists, information, anecdotal information, stuff from your families who are working in different sectors. It's incredible.

2:17:31 what has been going on and really appreciate particularly this kind of showing so thank you all for your support we'll be thanking more people in a bit in our second segment of course we'll be here on Sunday again to do whatever we need to do please support us at Dvorak.org slash N A Pretty sure you know whether you need a face mask to stay indoors or not you're schooled! Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth Order! This will kill you. Shut up, snake! Nailed it. I'm too tight for this market, really, if you think about it. I've got a couple of isos we want to go over. Before I play Kaylie, I got some Kaylie clips. Kaylie! It's too late to say you're sorry. Do you know the song, Kaylie? No, I never heard the song. Well, it's your beat. You should. I now call her Kaylie the Avenger.

2:18:30 I just like it. So let's try this ashamed Ashamed you should be ashamed of yourself. You'll be hearing from me. Who is that Mika? Is that me? I like that. I like Mika not bad. Well, here it is. Here's the second version the shorter version hearing from me. Okay, you'll be hearing from me. I don't know. That's part of it. That's a part of a clip coming up. Okay. Then I have following rules, which I think may have slipped in once before. Okay. I'm following the rules. I'm still liking the longer one, actually. Okay. Let's go to this one. Sick person. Okay. You're a sick person.

2:19:16 Hmm. I should have clipped out. You're a sick person. Hmm. Let me just see. Did I have any other ISOs? So I have, well I have this one. I told you about that one. This will kill you. I have something from a segment coming up. Where are the locusts? No, that's no good. That's no good. No, that's no good. Well, I'm gonna have trouble topping the kill you one, but let's go with this skip. Okay. Well, well, hold on It's it's between the kill you one and I think this is a good contender. You should be ashamed of yourself You'll be hearing from me. I like that. It's a this will kill you. All right trolls first ten votes will count and then we'll know where we're at Brother. Yeah

2:20:00 There you go. OK, so let's go with I got two ways. I got one a short one by Kaylee on voter fraud, because this needs to be and she says it over. She did it twice in this press conference. The second time she read from this this thing on voter fraud. She's got her thing, she throws it back at the media, she's great about this. And the second time she had to do the same thing, she said to the reporter, I guess you weren't listening. And just burned her right there. This is the voter fraud clip. November 3rd. I would have the prediction tool and you can tell us what will be happening on November 3rd, 2020. I certainly don't. Nor does the president. He's coming up and that's like what's happening in Dubai. I would also I assume you care about fairness and accuracy in our elections. Do you not?

2:20:47 Of course I do. There's a lot of evidence that there is widespread voter fraud. So there's evidence, you can go look this up on ProPublica. There was a bipartisan consensus on the fact that mass mail-in voting can lead to fraud. There was a 2005 commission by none other than President Carter, who's not a member of the Republican Party, and also James Baker about this concluding that these ballots, quote, remain the largest source of potential voter fraud. So this is a concern. The president's right to look at this. We want a free and fair election. And that's his concern. You're so jacked about Kayleigh that now you're doing like sprucing up her bits. Well, I don't have to spruce the next one up. So she goes, this is the way there's a two parter. She goes and she's first answers the question and then she turns and and adds information that wasn't requested.

2:21:39 blast Susan Rice and then what she knows it. I have to say this about Kaylee. She knows when to quit. Oh, she might drop. She's a mic dropper. She's a mic dropper. So she drops the mic and walks out after the second but let's listen to the first part. Kayleigh, Susan Rice wrote an op-ed yesterday in the New York Times that said that President Trump has couched to President Xi and also has said that called his response to the coronavirus classified as a deadly mishandling. What's the White House's response to that? So you said that that came from Susan Rice, was it?

2:22:17 Okay, so first I would want to take a moment to address the president's response because the president has had an extraordinary and early response to the coronavirus. I would note Dr. Birx, the early work of President Trump, both with travel restrictions and quarantine has bought us the time and space necessary to have this task force be very effective. Dr. Fauci saying that the president's response has been impressive. He can't imagine under any circumstance that anyone could be doing anything more. I can go through the actions. There's a detailed timeline out there of January 6th, Wuhan, issuing a travel notice issued on Wuhan when there were zero cases in the United States. The 17th, zero reported US cases and there were public health entry screenings at major US airports. Of course, the infamous travel restrictions that were called xenophobic by Democrats on January 31st.

2:23:09 a lot of action in February on developing a test and making sure we were moving forward as speedily as possible on that. Keep in mind in late February, Pelosi was saying, come to Chinatown, it's very safe. But the president had already taken very early action. And I know you brought up Susan Rice in that context. So when she says, I know you brought up Susan Rice in that context, here she goes. And I know you brought up Susan Rice in that context, but I'm going to bring her up in another context that's equally as newsworthy. And that is the email that was declassified from Susan Rice on Inauguration Day, which is so peculiar. It set the scene. It's Inauguration Day. You're moving out of the White House. This is the most powerful building on planet Earth.

2:24:00 Susan Rice is moving out, reflecting on her time here and what is she doing. She's not packing her boxes. She's not being nostalgic about her time in the White House. What she's doing is writing an email where three times she writes that President Obama emphasized to conduct the investigation into Michael Flynn by the book, by the book, by the book. She writes it three times. As Shakespeare said, thou doth protest too much, Susan Rice. Do you think she wrote that herself? Is that her style? I think it is. That's interesting. He didn't have the Susan Rice part in there, but I'll add that in. Two, she was asked specifically about the unmasking of Michael Flynn after she discussed it on January 5th in the Oval Office with Obama. After she wrote this email to herself on Inauguration Day, she was asked by a good journalist, Judy Woodruff, about this email and about the unmasking of Michael Flynn. Not the email, but the unmasking. She was asked specifically

2:24:55 about Nunes' claim specifically. So let me clarify, it was Nunes' claim. And she said, I know nothing about this. So it was a lie. And then Susan Rice, since no one brought it up to me, I will bring it up to you. Her attorney said that this was the first opportunity three weeks after this Oval Office meeting that she had to write this email memorializing her Oval Office meeting with Barack Obama discussing Michael Flynn. It was her first opportunity, she said. Interesting, because she had an opportunity in those three weeks on January 10th to do a passing of the baton event with none other than Michael Flynn where she praised him, wished him success and talked about the great transition into the White House. And then on January 12th,

2:25:36 She was able to participate in a story that published on that date in the lifestyle section of the Washington Post. So she never had time to write this email and tell inauguration day as she's rushing out the door when in fact she had an opportunity to do all of those things. I'll leave that with you. Thank you for bringing up Susan Rice, not in the context that I wished, but for allowing me to share that with you. Now, and that's where she drops the mic and walks out. What I find interesting Is actually the lack of pushback that she gets from the media, I don't think they've quite... I don't know if they're afraid of her and maybe because she came out right away, they started punching people around like, oh yeah really this is what you said, that's what you said and it's very quick on her feet to recall stuff.

2:26:23 But they're not out there writing stories about how she's a conspiracy theorist. That's different from every other press secretary. Not attacking her like they attacked... Oh, that she would go after them if anybody even attempted that. She is a... and I... because I remember the young Kellyanne Conway. Oh man, I think you're in love. I think I'm gonna play you a little theme song here for your girlfriend. That's the wrong one. Yeah, keep going. I'll find it. Don't worry, I'll find it. Kellyanne Conway when she was Kellyanne Fitzpatrick in the 90s was younger and she was just like this. She was very quick on her feet. She wasn't in the White House. She was a commentator on various news networks and she was fast and she was mean.

2:27:07 This girl has had to have studied her. She's younger a lot younger than Kellyanne. She's just as fast I think she's meaner Yeah, and I think she's studied how to do this right and she is there to kick ass and nothing less You listen to this does not that the other guys have I mean I thought maybe Huckabee was you know she would she was just too She was just a good lightweight compared to this woman. She is a Mean girl. She's a mean sorority girl. I know this type but here we go. Here's your song. This is your theme song We're going back to 1984 with Marillion and Kaylee do you remember?

2:27:48 No, I don't ever come you this was a number one hit maybe it wasn't a hit in America. Yeah We get the hook There you go I think we can re-release it. I never heard that song before it's a great song. Oh It seems a little slow moving to me But I'm sure one of our guys can pick it up and make it a little bit work So because I'm gonna follow this woman as I know I know I'm glad you're doing that and your information is good and stuff stuff people need to hear that media is obviously not reporting what she has to say no, they just you know, okay, and and they're saying they are cowed by her. They are cowed by I think you're right. I think you're right. They are. Yeah, I agree

2:28:45 Yeah, good, good to put up with the crap. Always nice to receive a Kali package. We're going OTG. That's right everybody, we're going hard OTG! Since, well, there's so much going on, I'm not gonna do a very long extended OTG segment, but I do have some information from the testing lab here. As you know, the entire idea of going OTG is to create less data for the Silicon Valley companies who gladly sell that if they can't, well if they're not asked to share it, they'll sell it to the government and anyone who wants it. But also to live a more healthy life with less distraction from your device. You really don't need more than just a phone that can do some text messaging,

2:29:41 can make a phone call, maybe, maybe, maybe if you need to go email or a quick thing, a quick web search, that's about all it can do and I've recommended the Alcatel Go Flip 3. Now, when you need to do something additional, it's good to have another device with you and I have here, I think, a device that fits the bill. And this is, it was created by producer Andrew for me, he sent it off, an LG tablet And I'm not sure which one this is. It's probably about the size of a big... If you took an iPhone and made it one size bigger. Does that make any sense? What about a Note? Is it the size of a Note? A big phone. No, well, the thing is, it's interesting. It can have a SIM card. But what's nice about it is it's loaded up with the Lineage OS.

2:30:39 Are you familiar with the Lineage OS? No, I've actually not heard of it, but I assume it's a Linux distro. Well, the Lineage OS is called Lineage for a reason. It's basically the Android operating system as originally intended with all of the Google stuff taken out. Which includes... Well, that's not... Okay. No, well... I don't know if it was originally intended not to have any Google stuff in it, but okay. Well, the... Yeah, well, Google bought Android. So, Android was not a Google product. They bought it and baked all that crap in there.

2:31:16 So it was originally an operating system that lived outside of the ecosystem. Now this of course means that you also get no apps. So there's no Play Store, there's nowhere to install. But wait, is there? Yes! And there's an actual kind of a store and it's called F-Droid and this is all open source Many of them are sanctioned by the lineage OS people, but of course a lot are just open source stuff that's around. I'm very familiar with K9 mail, so I'm using that. And it has a couple... Actually, there's a browser called the FOSS browser. F-O-S-S, free open source software. It is so minimal and so basic, yet so lovely to use and fast.

2:32:03 And they even have the bar where you type in at the bottom just to make it even faster. It makes so much sense when it's at the bottom. So what's cool about this, you can connect it to the hotspot Wi-Fi on your GoFlip. and you can do anything you need to do. You'll have to figure out how to install Lineage OS. There are some people who sell them with it built in. And this thing is just, it's locked and it's in the glove compartment of the car. If I'm on the road and I need to do a little bit extra, it's here and this Lineage OS is fast. It's incredible, even compared to the speed of an iPhone.

2:32:42 Or, you know, a modern, any modern Android. It's fast. These apps are not bloated. It's not sucking out your data and throwing out the back door. I'm very, very impressed. And, you know, these things are probably for sale for under a hundred bucks. You know, you don't give a shit about it. It's like, you don't have to worry about it. Just throw it around and use it when you need to. Battery lasts. I haven't even charged it yet. I've had it for almost a week. So lineage OS look out for it's very nice. What yes, what a nerd Well, not really not really if I'm seeing the amount of people who especially with the tracking and tracing programs, it's now officially been released the kovat 19 notify tracking notification system that Apple and Google

2:33:37 It's for your own good, man. Yeah, we'll see if anyone actually goes in and installs it. I don't think we're going to get a... The people that were just over at your house, they'd be all in on that. Oh yeah, they will be when the apps are available. So stay strong everybody, you can do it, and it's our time. Everyone's being tracked and narked on. We're kind of free people. We're certainly free in our mind of beaches are open of blings and blocks and bloops and things that want our attention and Especially now that you're going back out. Enjoy it Enjoy looking around enjoy not being distracted and that is your OTG segment for the day

2:34:22 Well, I want to play this Mika clip. Okay. Now, Mika, Trump on Wednesday, I think it was, I don't know how she got this out. She got this screed out so quickly. Trump was just tweeting about one thing or another. He's going on a, mostly about COVID. And then all of a sudden, because of something Scarborough said, He writes it well, you know, maybe somebody should look into that intern who died in your office cold case file reopen. Yeah, hold on. I can give you some background on that because the meme was going around which for some reason a lot of people liked and sent to me of a call from years ago where Don I'm is the radio host in New York has Chuck Scarborough on the line before, you know, as the announcement is made he's going to MSNBC to be a prestitute.

2:35:13 And Imus makes the joke about the dead intern. It's kind of a tasteless joke, very Imus for back in the day. But for some reason, people were sending that to me like, this is a great clip! I'm like, no it's not. It's a dumb joke from 30 years ago. And they're all douche... and Imus is dead. It's like, this is not a great clip. If you hate Mika and Scarbro, don't watch him. So I'm presuming this is going to be great because we rarely do clips of them. Yeah, it was because they pound the same tub. But I thought this was a good one because she was really upset about this one tweet, which was I didn't even I remember reading the tweet when it went through because I because if somebody wants if you want to do something once in a while, if you're a Twitter guy or gal,

2:36:05 Go to Donald Trump's feed directly and then just start reading the tweets from top to bottom until you get sick of them. And you really, you won't even get, he does about, looks like he does about 40 tweets a day. or more, and so you get a lot of information in there. He's got links to things, he's got, then you also see his taste, he retweets some really tasteless stuff, but it's funny. So you just go through it, and I remember going past this one tweet where he's talking to Bitchin' about Scarborough, and he's right back on his regular subject. It was a throwaway, but apparently Mika, she got so bent out of shape about this one lone tweet,

2:36:46 I'm thinking, well, where there's smoke, there's fire. There's something wrong here. And she's got to defend her man because apparently Joe can't defend himself. So he needs this little, you know, this snake to do it for him. And so she goes off on the D, she goes off. nuts right now. Here we go. Aside from the fact that most believe that this president has botched this crisis from the get-go and this will be known in history worldwide as a human catastrophe that he could have prevented. And he's trying to deflect at all times. And Willie and Mike, he's tweeting again all sorts of crazy things. Once again, tweeting conspiracy theories about Joe falsely accusing him of murder, talking about the death of a young staffer in his congressional office years ago.

2:37:38 and calling him dangerous to walk the streets. And I'll just say, I'll take a point of personal privilege here, that's sick. Donald, you're a sick person. Unlike calling someone Hitler for months. You're a sick person. To put this family through this, to put her husband through this, to do this just because you're mad at Joe because Joe got you again today, because he speaks the truth. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Let me just hear that, which now, and I understand the premise is about this happened years ago, intern's dead in Joe's office, but what is Mika saying? Let's listen again. Sick person. You're a sick person. To put this family through this, to put her husband through this. Why, what is she saying, to put her husband through this? Who is her and why is her husband more important than the dead child?

2:38:33 Well, this is the same thing you get from the Seth commentary. It's not, you can't bring it up because it's putting the family... I understand that part, but it sounds like she's talking about herself. You know, Joe is her husband. It sounds like she's saying... You're putting me through this or my husband. Well, it sounds like it but I think I think that the intern may have been married I don't know any of the okay. Okay. All right doesn't matter but I'm assuming it's not really about Mika No, well, she may be projecting it. I think it's all about Mika ultimately. That's why I pick up on it It's always projection with her person to put this family through this to

2:39:13 to put her husband through this, to do this just because you're mad at Joe because Joe got you again today, because he speaks the truth and he speaks plainly about your lack of interest and empathy in others and your lack of ability to handle this massive human catastrophe, the fact that you've made it worse and that you make it worse every day. and that you won't even wear a mask to protect people from your germs. Whoa, that's great! That's like a three-year-old. But the germs you're spreading on Twitter, first of all, Twitter, you shouldn't be allowing this. And you should be taking these tweets down. And you should be ashamed of yourself. You'll be hearing from me on this, because this is BS.

2:40:00 But Donald you're a sick person. You're really a cruel, sick, disgusting person. And you can keep tweeting about Joe, but you're just hurting other people. And of course, you're hurting yourself. Willie, why don't you take final thoughts? I'm done. Wow. So sad. So sad that she went to those. I only get the good ones that are entertaining. No, there's a great clip. I'm very happy with it. It's balanced to the show, by the way, for the people who think they were just a bunch of Trump apologists. There you go. No, I find this to be a beautiful clip. It's so personal to her. The things that comes out of her piehole, it's all okay. But when it's about Joe... Something's very wrong with her. Well, look at the family lineage. Speak of lineage OS.

2:40:52 She's OG Lineage OS. Crazy. You got a second clip from Mika here? Oh yeah, this is actually the follow-up of what's happening and this is from The Hill and they use their robot voice or whatever it is that plays this. This is a follow-up clip. MSNBC host Mika Brzezinski said she will speak with Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey to discuss getting President Trump- I'm going to the school, I'm going to talk to the headmaster about you. , Please retweet if you agree. She eventually confirmed that she would be speaking with Dorsey and the general counsel via phone call. Brzezinski appears to be responding to a Wednesday tweet by the president that attacks her Morning Joe co-host and husband Joe Scarborough. I mean, she might as well just call herself Karen from now on. I mean, just Karen Brzezinski. You're not wearing a mask. That's the reference I was using. You're not wearing a mask. Well, why don't we just make Karen Mika? You're a real Mika.

2:42:07 You're a real Mika, you know that? I'm gonna go to the Twitter, I'm gonna go to Jack from Twitter and I'm gonna tell him he should take you, he should at least remove your checkmark. Your checkmark should be removed because you're not legit. Oh man, this is, it's okay. Well, it's fun for us, I agree. All right, let's go to some actual information about China. China. The Original Money Honey, Maria Bartiromo has a show on Fox Business on Sunday. Clearly not funded by the China or the pharmaceutical industry yet, but we'll find out.

2:42:49 and she had the president on. And here's a little preamble, it kind of starts off with some news that happened over this past week which included my stepdaughter's alma mater. A professor at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland has been arrested over his alleged financial ties to China. This just days after the FBI sounded the alarm on China's attempts to steal coronavirus research. A professor at the University of Arkansas was arrested on similar charges last week. And then in January, Harvard's chemistry chief was charged with failing to disclose that he too was being paid by the Chinese Communist Party. Two weeks ago, Senator Tom Cotton told us that the CCP was trying in many ways to steal medical data from the United States to try and come up with a vaccine for COVID-19 before the United States.

2:43:37 That's the first time I've heard that part of an accusation. That they were trying to get it to steal it to be first with a vaccine. I find that hard to believe, but I've not heard that. I think we had a clip about that. I don't think they used the word vaccine. I think they used the word cure. Oh, that could be. Anyway, so now we have three clips, about a minute each, with the money honey and with Trump. And it's about China, and if you listen very carefully, this is where you get to hear what the president actually means or what she's thinking, but we'll have to listen very carefully and what is really important to him or not. And this is a throwback to your series of clips about the financial, which clip was that again? Was that with Kayleigh?

2:44:29 How the president will probably want to go after money from someone and that was someone would be from China That was a that was a note that I was reading. Yes note. So here we go Secretary Pompeo said that he has strong evidence that it did come from the virology lab We've been reporting this every Sunday, by the way from early on you also said that you saw evidence Can you tell us anything about the intelligence? No, but we have a lot of information and And it's not good. But you know the worst of all, whether it came from the lab or came from the bats, it all came from China. And they should have stopped it. They could have stopped it at that source. I call it the source. Right there. They made a decision to allow it to escape its borders.

2:45:12 I don't know if they made the decision, but it got out of control. I think more likely it got out of control. Senator Kahn said that they didn't want the Chinese economy to contract 20% and the rest of the world to contract 2%. So we were beating them very badly before this. We were beating them between the tariffs and other things we were doing. And we were So I think what the president is saying there is, look, I really don't care

2:46:07 where in China it came from, as long as we all recognize it came from China. I'm not gonna necessarily say they did it on purpose, but what they certainly did on purpose is they let Chinese travel abroad and they didn't let the Chinese even travel to other cities within China. So he's clearly been saying this for a while and nobody wants to report on it. Well, he's just locking it in and he's because he knows the Chinese are watching and he is pissed because when we identified this when it took place when the 250 billion dollar trade deal was signed

2:46:47 I noticed immediately, and this is before we had anything going on really, the very last paragraph on the very last page had a force majeure clause which essentially said should anything crappy happen that kind of changes the situation, we all agree we'll come back and we'll figure it out. And that's a known as a force majeure clause and Trump is pissed about it because well here you go. Look the big thing is they should have never let this happen. So I make a great trade deal and now I say it just doesn't feel the same to me. The ink was barely dry and the plague came over and it doesn't feel the same to me. Are they going to renege on it? They're not going to buy the 250 billion are they? They will buy 250, 250 billion.

2:47:34 They said somewhere I see that like to renegotiate the deal. We're not going to renegotiate. Look. Notice that he said there's like the ink was barely dry. So he knows he knows that they were there under false pretenses. They signed a deal fully well knowing they had a problem and that that clause was in there. It may have even be put in on the day of signing. The problem existed. They knew about it. It was the thing broke out, so I said, well yeah, we can sign this because we got a force majeure in here and it's barely dry and then the announcement takes place. And again, this is not for information for the American public, Maria Bartiromo. This is telling China what's on his mind and what he knows and how he feels. I'm not happy about anything having to do with that particular subject right now. Have you spoken to Xi Jinping? I have a very good relationship, but I just, right now, I don't want to speak to him.

2:48:31 I don't want to speak to him. Tell him no. I mean that's it's almost like a whiny bitch the way he does that. I don't want to speak with him right now. I don't want to speak to him. Because, you know, Senator Cotton was saying maybe we should be limiting the amount of visas that we give to students who want to study things like quantum computing and AI. There are many things we could do. We could do things we could cut off the whole relationship. Now if you did, what would happen? You'd save $500 billion if you cut off the whole relationship. So here the president is signaling, hey, we could just cut the whole thing off. We save 500 billion. I mean, we may not have any medication, but and he's going to... Well, for a while. For a while. We could ramp everything up, but it wouldn't be overnight. Well, presumably he's already been working on this for six months and has all kinds of crap underway and factories being built. But he's not going to stop there. Oh, no, no, no. We're going to take away as much money as we can from them.

2:49:30 But within limits and reason. And you pulled back the money. But we've been proven to be right. Yeah, I pulled back the money. You pulled back the money from the Thrift Fund. Now, I didn't know about the Thrift Fund. But the Thrift Fund is, um, is that's a thrift savings and it's like a huge... I don't know anything about it. Yeah, I put it in the show notes here. Um... I think it's kind of like one of those semi-government, uh, institutions. Kind of like Fannie Mae, if you will. I think it's the Thrift Plan. Anyway, it's the Federal Retirement Thrift Plan and there's a federal, you know, the Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board administers a thrift savings plan, a tax-deferred defined contribution plan similar to private sector 401k plans which provides federal employees the opportunity to save. So it's a big federal pension scheme.

2:50:30 This has got to do with China. They wanted to put 10% of the Thrift Fund into MSCI index, that was Chinese companies. Does that answer your question? They were going to put 10% of the entire fund into Chinese companies! $50 billion. Will you go one step further and force that Chinese companies have to follow accounting rules if they want to be listed on the New York Stock Exchange and the NASDAQ? So we're looking at that very strongly, but on the Thrift Fund, you know it's run by the Obama appointments, right? And we said, you got to do this. And we're going to find out whether or not they're going to do it very soon. And if they're not, we're going to replace them very quickly. And we are looking at your second part of your question. We're looking at that. Because Chinese companies like an Alibaba, any Chinese company, they're listed on the New York Stock Exchange. They don't have to report their earnings the way an American company does? It's pretty amazing. But here's the problem with that. You know, look, I hate to say it, but let's say we do that, right? So what are they going to do? They're going to move their listing to London or someplace else. You see?

2:51:29 Let's say you want to get tough and you're going to do, you know, everyone wants to be a tough guy. Look, I'm the toughest guy. But what happens is, so we say, you're going to do this and you're going to follow the rules of the New York Stock Exchange or Nasdaq. What do they do? They say, OK, we'll move to London or we'll go to Hong Kong. So he's pretty pragmatic in that regard. It's like, no, I'm not going to make it too tough for him to be on our stock market. We like their crappy-ass stocks. It's great for the penny stock boys, for the day traders. They can have a lot of fun with them. But we're not going to let our Or going to request and it likes how he slipped in the Obama appointees on the trust board We're gonna try and not have them invest 50 billion dollars in Chinese companies. So I think it's on it's on its full on the going after Huawei equipment maker

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3:05:37 Talking about how ever than the one in medium. Well, no is that the New York Times piece is talking about Ronan Farrow not being so journalistically great with his reporting and a takedown and Matt Lauer posted a very long medium article where he Deconstructed Ronan's s assertions and called four people who Ronan never called and the New York Times checked and they check with those four people and they said yeah Matt Lauer story checks out which means the way Lauer puts it yes he had an inappropriate relationship but no it was was not rape and it was consensual

3:06:21 which does put the media hype in a different light, but, and the entire Me Too movement I think, or the insanity of the hype of the media, the machine. I don't know exactly what it says, I don't think it's going to matter much for Matt Lauer, but it should be noted that there are other sides to that story. Well, it should be noted that apparently according to Ben Smith, who is now writing for the New York Times, the Ben Smith from Politico. who wrote that piece, a hit piece, and then the Lauer follow-up, and then the follow-up of the Lauer assertions. This is targeting Ronin for some specific reason, and I don't know what it is, I have no idea, but it was a hit job. The New Yorker, meanwhile, which ran the,

3:07:17 Ronan pieces they kind of defended him saying that this is just a just jealous because the New York Times wouldn't do anything with the road with the Pharaoh information so it's become like a little a little Slap fight fest people kind of going after each other. Yeah, I don't know what's gonna come of it because I think there's something to this There's something behind it. That's what I want to know. I mean maybe this is I don't know. I'd have to look, go back to fact check on whether Pharaoh was just making stuff up, which is possible. Or, I mean, there's also some people that he may have said something and then now they're reneging. Oh no, I never said anything. No, that's not true. He never called me. Yeah, that's also possible. That seems dubious. Yeah. What do you mean? Like that's unlikely that he didn't call them and they're lying about it? But he did call them and they're lying about it now?

3:08:09 I don't know, I mean it could be one or the other. I mean it could be he never called any, maybe he's a full of shit guy. There's plenty of them that are in journalism that just make stuff up and they say they contacted this person and that person, they never did. But generally speaking when that happens, the person comes out and says, hey, he never called me at the time of the reporting. They don't come out much later after Lauer calls them. That doesn't make any sense to me. So something's up. And it'll be worth keeping an eye out because it'll be fun. I have a douchebag fight. Yeah, it is a douchebag fight. I have a couple clips left of this Biden recording with Poroshenko, which I think is kind of worth listening to because it's one of those things that if you listen to it without any lead-in or kind of understanding of what's going on,

3:09:07 I think it loses context and these days everything seems to get lost. to follow up which have nothing to do with this. Let's talk about Biden. Okay, so first this all goes back to Biden bragging at the Council on Foreign Relations about how he got a prosecutor in Ukraine fired and just to remind you here's the piece of that clip. I remember going over convincing our team, our others too, convincing that we should be providing for loan guarantees. And I went over, probably I guess the 12th, 13th time to Keeve and I was supposed to announce that there was another billion dollar loan guarantee.

3:09:58 And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor, and they did. So they said they had it, they were walking out to press conference, said, no, I said, I'm not going to, we're not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority, you're not the president. The president said, I said, call him. I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting a billion dollars. I said, you're not getting a billion. I'm going to be leaving here, and I think it was what, six hours? I look, I said, I'm leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money. Oh, son of a bitch. Got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid. All right, so let's listen now. These phone calls give us a little more insight into

3:10:43 exactly what was going on and the way I read it, it sounds more that Joe had some kind of issue and this is of course what the Republicans who are going after him say, but with this there's some context to it and some some evidence just on the surface of listening to these series of calls that kind of points to that. So the accusation would be Biden had some kind of issue with this prosecutor because he was hunting his son or him or who knows who else. Guy had to be removed and Joe wants the prosecutor removed

3:11:21 And first he sends his Secretary of State at the time John Kerry to do the dirty work and Kerry is clearly, I mean I've heard calls like this, he's sending the message to President Poroshenko in this clip. If there's a way to get by this problem of replacing the Prosecutor General, you know, Shookian, because from my perception he's blocked the cleanup of the Prosecutor General's office and I know the Vice President is very concerned about it.

3:12:00 And I think it would be good to try to have some resolution about when the Vice President comes, if it's possible. And I think, I doubt that any other general prosecutor can do that, but we provide absolutely transparent procedure for the selection commission. Okay, so Kerry saying, you know, the vice president really would like that prosecutor gone, really thinks it's important that prosecutor is gone. And here is Biden calling him, his buddy Poroshenko himself to make sure we've got this message that prosecutors really got to go really, really got to go. Thank you, Mr. Vice President. Your call has been convened. Petro, can you hear me? I cannot hear you.

3:12:45 I can't hear you better too. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You were saying, I missed what you were saying. So I have a second positive news for you. Yesterday I met with the general prosecutor Shokin. Despite of the fact that we didn't have any corruption charges, we don't have any information about him doing something wrong. This is very interesting and this was recorded on the Ukrainian end. It's very interesting, he says, despite the fact that we have no information on this prosecutor being corrupt whatsoever,

3:13:23 I especially asked him, no it was the day before yesterday, I especially asked him to resign. In his position as a state person, one hour ago he brought me the written statement So Listen, I got the guy I have his letter of resignation in my hand I think he's being cagey about that because that doesn't mean the guy was actually gonna step down. This is part of my promise to you. I

3:14:13 And Joe goes, great, yeah, so I'm fulfilling my promises. And Joe goes, I agree. So, that means we've got a quid pro quo. Introducing President Poroshenko. By the way, I think that's, isn't that Bandcamp girl? Isn't that Secretary of State Harve? I think it's Marie Harve. I think it is Harve. Which implicates her in this scam, which I like. Introducing President Poroshenko. Hey Mr. President Joe Biden, how are you? Very well indeed. All the time when I hear your voice, it's a great pleasure for me. Well, I'm on Air Force Two and I think we're going to stay connected. We just took off and I'm hoping this connection will stay open. Assuming that there is a new government and a new prosecutor general.

3:15:09 So he's literally said, so tell me, we got a new government and new prosecutor general. So it's done, right? It's done. I am prepared to do a public signing of the commitment for the billion dollars. Again, I'm not suggesting that that's what you want or don't want. I'm just suggesting that that's what we're prepared to do. And again, it wouldn't be finalized until, you know, the IMF pieces are written. So the way I read that is, okay, you got that guy out. All right, here's a billion dollars. I'm not suggesting that's what you wanted or that's what you needed, but here's a billion dollars. That one sentence is the problem for me. I'm not suggesting that's what you wanted, but we're just doing that out of the good of our heart after he just got through saying,

3:16:01 that the prosecutor is gone. Extremely strong motivation. Extremely strong motivation, Joe. Thank you for your billion dollars. One of the possible candidates was leader of my faction, Lutsenko. And now he's discussing openly who he's going to replace him with. He's the public figure. If you think that the political motivated figure would be not very good from your point of view. I recall this proposal, I do not propose because nobody knows that I want to propose Lutsenko. All right, so Lutsenko was then proposed, but I don't know if this came after, I'm not quite sure where this came in the timeline because it sounds like they have a deal and then Biden shows up and then the deal is not on.

3:16:53 But to me it sounded like he was really getting some money for them in exchange for them doing something and he took it quite personally and even after Kerry didn't get a satisfactory answer, he went in there personally. That's so to me it sounds iffy. What do you think? The guy's as corrupt as it comes. He's not even close to being iffy. If they think Trump's minor little Conversation over the phone was anything bad. This is terrible. This is ten times worse What's of course, you know, it's being covered as well poor Joe what struck me is how well he's speaking then Compared to now very very Joe. He's he speaks. Yeah. What was the year of this? This is only a few years ago

3:17:46 Well, he had his last operation on his aneurysm, I think was 2003. I this was two different operations on his brain. This was the last clip I was going to play. It is a rare clip. Only the NOAA Gender Show has the full clip. As far as I know, Biden from 2013 discussing both of his brain surgeries. This is the clip no one wants to hear, particularly at the very end. At least no one in the Democrat Party or Joe Biden camp want you to hear. Or the media. I said no one in the Joe Biden camp or the Democrat Party want you to hear. Saying the media is not necessary, we all know. I had two cranial aneurysms and they literally had to take the top of my head off. I mean they take a saw and they cut your head off and go in to find the artery that is one was leaking the other that hadn't before it burst.

3:18:44 Those of you who are docs know every profession has their sick jokes. The joke among docs is, how do you know someone's had a cranial aneurysm? On the autopsy table. Only 20% of the people have it even get to the table. Well, one of the fascinating things is, the second operation, after the first one, which was a bleed and they gave me a relatively low chance of surviving, I remember going down to the doc asking the doc, you know, you're counting the ceiling tiles and you're heading into the operating room, a lot of you have been there. And I said, Doc, what are my chances? I had two great neurosurgeons. And I'll never forget, I will not mention his name, he's one of the leading neurosurgeons in the country.

3:19:28 in the world. He said, Senator, for mortality or morbidity? And I'm thinking, I swear to God, I'm thinking, oh, gee, you know. I said, let me put it this way. It was a long road to the operating room. I said, it's an absolutely true story. I said, what are my chances of getting off this table and being completely normal. He said, well your chances of living are a lot better. And I said, okay, what are they? He said, well, they're in the 35 to 50 percent range. And I thought, well, seriously, I was a born optimist. I said, well, hell, that means

3:20:18 35 out of 100, 50 out of 100 make it. I might as well be the one. I said, what's the most likely thing that will happen if I live? He said, well, the side of the brain that the first aneurysm is on controls your ability to speak. And I thought, why the hell didn't they tell me this before the 88 campaign? It could have saved us all a lot of trouble. And there you have it. His speech is problematic because of his brain operations. Yeah, that's what this has been. This is a meme that goes around. He blames it on that. Yeah, which is fine, but it's not presidential material. Yeah, it's not fine that you're right. That's the point. All right, play us home, JCD. Okay, we got a couple of things. I think which order to go in here. I have one thing is it is kind of a

3:21:18 This is the clip that's been floating around. This is the Chicago mayor just before she got into office or when she was first got into office and she's having some trouble with aldermen. And she goes on about how she's going to correct these problems and she's going to put these new people in. And I cannot find any evidence that this has been I think it's a deep fake. Oh, don't even play this is it's it's not a deep fake But you have to have the whole clip in context most of the clip No, you have to have three minutes before this, but it's okay. We can play this It's one minute is mo is the clip, but I just want I would cut it down to just what she said Yeah, because I don't think this is in context. I don't even know why she said it. She was okay. I

3:22:00 Well, explain. I'm all ears. If you listen to the full interview, it's a full hour. Yes, I know, but we always assume this. And there's about three minutes before this minute of the statement, which is specifically about the aldermen and how the fiefdoms in Chicago are run. Yeah, but then when you just take this it's like it sounds like it's and they have their I mean I don't want to use the term to blow the clip, but I think everyone might have seen it by now But to me she was only talking about that. So this is this is not a deep fake I think she said it the fact she said it is more disturbing about what she said. That's what I'm saying Why did she say it even that let's say we got a 10-minute clip. I don't care what context that's in Why would you say this?

3:22:49 Oh, because she believes in it. Well then what's wrong with playing this clip? Well because I've seen it a million times. I'm like why are we still doing this? This has been around for two and a half, three weeks. That's all. We've never played it. No. That's what I'm saying. And I only heard it last week. Let's go then. My thoughts are because it's not written. And you got the shit version too. God damn it. I wish I had gotten... This is the best version I could find. Ask him, you don't have it. Because I wasn't interested in it as a clip and I had the good version. You don't think it's interesting that the Chicago mayor would say that we want people to pledge allegiance to the New World Order? Yeah. In context. That work in our government? You don't think that was interesting?

3:23:33 After I'd seen the clip for almost a month and after I had gone back and looked at the full context of it, it was less interesting. I don't have it here to play for you because it's about four minutes and then you see that she refers back and it's just not interesting. It's interesting in the one minute context. Well that's what I have and you say it's not interesting. Should be into full contact. Unless you know what's... Okay let's skip this clip. This is a stupid conversation. You're asking me... Let's skip the clip. No, I'm forcing it on everybody now. Now we have to listen to it. My thoughts are, because it's not written into law, it's just a very dominant culture. I think the only way you can do it is a couple ways. One, I'm thinking about an executive order from day one that says

3:24:27 You know in more legalese than this. This is not a thing We will not no longer honor this because the way that all ready prerogative works is there's got to be compliance with the executive branch because otherwise it doesn't work, so You got to eliminate that compliance and you make it a mandate And then you do training particularly in the city. I'll call them licensing departments whether it's zoning buildings Housing will be impacted by planning, certainly. And you pick the people to run those agencies and the deputies that are pledging allusions to the new world order and good governance. And then I think you have the inspector general do some spot audits to make sure that there is real compliance.

3:25:18 Alright until your comment was going to be it's a deep fake. That's that's why I think it is No, it's not. This is a horrible version of it the the there's a good. Thank you very much There's a good on my clip The point is is that she said pledge allegiance to the New World Order I just don't believe that it doesn't make any sense in the set in the conversation I will I will produce what I didn't want to do because it's not that interesting and there's no joke and no payoff is like Okay, she meant it that way and it's and it's good quality. So I'll produce that I didn't shit Tell us in advance why she didn't mean allegiance to the New World Order if she actually said that I

3:26:02 What's your question? Well, you said in context, in a larger context, it made some sort of sense to say allegiance to the New World Order. Yeah, you have to listen to 15 minutes to understand that she's talking about how those guys operate and she's saying this is what they want. She's not saying... I will put you think it's the alderman that won every yes to pledge it yes that's what I tried to tell you that's what she's saying you could have told me I did but you were so angry at me you didn't hear no no no let's go back because it under that context it doesn't make any sense to me

3:26:42 Because she specifically says, okay, you produce a clip that shows me that the aldermen of Chicago, of all places, want the people to pledge allegiance to the New World Order. Yes, yes. No, they want, they pledged, the aldermen pledge allegiance to the New World Order. That's what she's complaining about them. Which doesn't make it less interesting, but the clip never was good and that's why I never played it. And also because it's been around for four weeks. The Chicago aldermen are pledging allegiance to the New World Order. I would like to hear it. I'll get it for you. That's fine. I can produce it. But I'm just saying. It was like... Now the next clip which is a... was taken from that early interview with the Cove-5 people.

3:27:30 The woman who is talking on that, she goes on and on about how she's ADHD and she says that you're either going to be a great scientist or you're going to be a criminal. And from that, there's a little side discussion, a 30-second clip, where apparently ADHD people either are Well, play the clip and you'll hear what if you have ADHD genuinely, you're either going to be one thing or the other. Let's hear what it is. By the way, the ADHD thing, I will share a little piece of legit research with you in case you already know it.

3:28:07 that ADH people genetically, or not genetically, but statistically actually end up as salespeople or in prison. I did some of the clinical studies with an epazol hydrochloride which is for Alzheimer's but it was also used for adult ADHD and when we were recruiting patients we found that many of the physicians Said that we would find people a lot of them would be either traveling for work as you say with a salesman job or they'd be parolees This is not good news, well if you like sales That's a funny good now hearing this I decided that I know a lot of salespeople and I like sales I don't have ADHD is that I know of but I

3:29:00 I'm wondering now, I'm going to redefine them, is to see are the best salespeople ADHD or A... Well, possibly, possibly. And if, but if you've, if you've got ADHD and brown shoes, then I think you're a winner. It just makes me wonder how many salespeople have ADHD and why is it something they fall into so nicely? So we should take the prisoners who have ADHD and make them salespeople. That's a job for them. Looking forward to that day. Brown shoes. Alright. Alright everybody, an extra long edition of the show. But then again, sometimes it's necessary. We're done when we're done.

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3:30:58 You can only touch your team's balls. So that you don't touch other people's balls. Whose balls are whose? They can't be grabbing everybody's balls. You can kick their balls, but you can't touch them. You can only touch your team's balls. Whose balls are whose? They can't be grabbing everybody's balls. Whose balls are whose? Of course, if you're playing with someone in your household, you can touch those balls. I give her high marks for that. High marks. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I feel so much better now.

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3:32:32 going to sink the American economy. Well, let's say you have 100 cases and let's say you don't do a shutdown, then it grows 33% per day. Many people don't even notice that they have symptoms and then they might spread the virus without even knowing it. The best is yet to come. to come. The worst is yet ahead for us. Then they want to actually punish you. They want to use the full force of the law, fine you, throw you in jail, arrest you, take away your freedom just because you're engaging in activity that was previously perfectly legal.

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