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00:00 He's got something wrong with him. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday January 30th 2020 this is your award winning Get My Nation Media assassination episode 1212 This Is No Agenda Counting our angel numbers and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin Texas capital of the drone star state In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all taking a good look at Lady Gaga Lady Gaga's books. I'm John C DeVoree. It is Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Lady Gaga's books? She went broke, bankrupt Oh, I have not heard of this yet Well... Oh you mean her financial books? I didn't know this This is pop entertainment news that was not made aware of

00:51 That could be bullcrap. Where did you get it from? It goes to a good source, I got it from a great source Twitter! Oh that place yeah okay that makes total sense. But it sounds kind of right...I mean these musicians they sign off these deals and they end up I don't know footing the bill for too much stuff. She got ripped off by somebody Really sucks man, that's not feel bad for it. I mean especially with the kind of success she had and then gone Still has hey KJ says hey

01:32 Hey, KJ still around? Yes sir. Chris Jacob, Baron of the No Agenda Show he was in Austin He's here for some conference of course. He's working for a new company You know him...he's got his brown shoes on creating markets that don't exist Yeah, he came by. We had a nice chat it was good to catch up and he was wearing his night ring Coming over to the house wearing the night-ring to the house very appreciated and I made no agenda chicken for him which yeah, yeah, I'd like to remind everybody that this is one of the better recipes No agenda chicken you can actually just go to your favorite search engine and type in no agenda chicken It'll pop up as the first result its delish

02:18 It's totally delicious. Well, it is easy! It's so easy to make and people are like wow this is great mm-hmm slaved over it. And then that was the whole meal it's like the chicken the vegetables the potatoes you're done everything's in there everything you need is good to go as fantastic really is hey it was nice nice that he was over nice to see him I have an announcement an exciting announcement for The No Agenda Shoppe I will be appearing on Joe Rogan Ah, good. Finally! Yeah in the next... so we're just picking a date and it has to be either Monday Tuesday or Wednesday that's when he tapes and it has to be February or March so we're coordinating because you know we have some travel here as well So yeah I'll go out to LA and plug the hell out of the show

02:18 It's totally delicious. Well, it is easy! It's so easy to make and people are like wow this is great mm-hmm slaved over it. And then that was the whole meal it's like the chicken the vegetables the potatoes you're done everything's in there everything you need is good to go as fantastic really is hey it was nice nice that he was over nice to see him I have an announcement an exciting announcement for The No Agenda Shoppe I will be appearing on Joe Rogan Ah, good. Finally! Yeah in the next... so we're just picking a date and it has to be either Monday Tuesday or Wednesday that's when he tapes and it has to be February or March so we're coordinating because you know we have some travel here as well So yeah I'll go out to LA and plug the hell out of the show

03:05 Well, let's hope so. And try and contain my Tourette's for two hours that's gonna be interesting I don't know why bother Exactly hey Jones Let me know did they got a Tourette's thing? So just get over it I'm gonna tick all the way through tick tock tick tock or something That would be more entertaining actually Although you won't do it. No, no if I know what now? I want I'm gonna try not to Try nothing. Oh no You want I mean you would if I even if you'd say okay? I've had it with this trying to hold back and going to just tick away and Even though your tics are minor. It's very something like that Let's assume you're gonna make that choice yeah

03:49 You won't do it. You just won't do it, you'll still freeze up and not tick much... When you DO tick, it will annoy you because it will be out of the blue. Right right right Probably just be I'm guessing the left eye Kind of a half-closed like you're winking kind of. Then your head will shake a little bit. You know it travels around different parts of the body and different tics at different times I'm always like, I don't mind having to tic just have my leg you know just put in my toe or something and get rid of it so its not in the eye you know like that crazy eye blinking. From underneath. What are you doing under there? Exactly

04:29 Okay, well there's a lot to look at today. You know when it rains it pours got all kinds of stuff to talk about Yeah I you know there's a couple things I wanted them first of all I have very little on the impeachment I do have a couple items no I Have some decent stuff good because one is that I was listening to the right-wing talkers and Michael Savage had something to say just cuz he was kind of sick of this He'd rather talk about himself. And he made this comment and it kind of stuck with me, which is why is everybody... This is really something that's peculiar to the Senate? The Senate has a job to do and they're going to do no matter what. What is the point of the public fretting about this one way or the other and making commentary all over the place as though we have anything to do with it? We're not there! I don't quite understand the point. Well, the point

05:29 Maybe this is overblown and we just whole thing is just like who cares I think it's what he's trying You know, it's got nothing to do with us. Well hold on a second I'm going to send the question to the desk to see what's going on with that The most dead air in a television show I've ever seen in my life What, as Roberts reads the questions? Yeah every single senator says I'm sending my question to the desk. This is the problem no cell phone just text the guy of the question and then a person's gotta get it from the Senator walk it over to the clerk. If everyone had their cell phones they'd be doing something else No kidding at all

06:11 And I'd be surprised they're even there. Well, what I enjoyed very- Do you have to be there? Is there some law that says oh, I've got a stomachache and can't stay home and watch this? Why don't you watch the thing from home on TV on C-SPAN? That's a good question. But I personally think that either you let the senators who are running for president right now, you let them go But they should really recuse themselves is my opinion. Yes, exactly! Why haven't they recused themselves? Well because they're not going to there's no intent whatsoever No one's talking about it but us I but if if the tables were turned we would certainly hear well these people are running for president you can't...I mean that's actually corrupting an election as you are going to decide where this guy stays or goes questions you may ask things you may bring up hello book deal Bolton

07:00 you know, that could corrupt the 2020 election. So they should recuse themselves but it's not going to happen! It doesn't matter. I think they should recuse themselves but let's while we're talking about this sort of thing let's play a couple of medleys okay i have one medley of the Clinton impeachment and the media and and and you can contrast that well actually i've got three medleys oh I have our, the newest medley of the anti-Trump bromides. Maybe we should start with that it's kind of entertaining What's it called? This is the media and some politicians moaning and groaning about Trump It's called Newest Medley of Anti-Trump Bromides The dishonorable fact of the president's betrayal of his oath of office The President has been exposed violating his oath of office

07:45 office a before relevant witnesses will be considered as evidence of obstruction. Trump's strategy, it is pretty clear obstruct deflect confuse. Obstructing justice? Refusing to comply with the congressional inquiry? It is obstruction of justice! It's bribery! A lot of the committees have documented obstruction of justice All this obstruction from the White House and from the President specifically He's using the abuse of power

08:48 and every element of the presidency. The heart of the abuse of power, this gross abuse of power... You could say it was an abuse of power There has been an abuse of power Abuse of Power And that is obviously impeachable abuse of power Definition of the word bromide Well, I'd looked it up because I know and it means something a little different than I thought. It means a trite and unoriginal idea or remark typically intended to soothe or placate that's questionable. Well, I don't know whether its placating but definitely soothing the left. Let's go back to 1998 with

09:32 A medley of the same media, only this is about the Clinton impeachment. I rise to oppose these unfair motions which call for the removal of the President of United States from office The independent council knew that the president... This is the 1998 clip. This is literally the 19- Yeah no but I meant Medley Clinton Impeachment Whole issue has been a sham! It shouldn't have gotten this far The House acted improperly in passing it on to the Senate. Why is your party dragging this thing out? Why is this happening? Why go through all of this business about witnesses, It's going to add months to this thing! We should stop this. This bogus inflated case and get on with business of governance Will these people just get down to buisness and leave this impeachment thing alone?! Its going to be a enormous distraction

10:17 to the White House and all kinds of issues that the Congress ought to be considering. There's a long line up of the people's business it seems have been put aside and apparently is going to be put aside for weeks if not months now We begin tonight with the voice of the people The visitor who got up and shouted God Almighty take the vote and get it over with! God Almighty, the man said take the vote and get it over with I remember that He was hero in this whole thing he stood up at Senate gallery last week and said good god vote over with this, will you? This process is Stalinist. Is there or is there not some concern of the public perception in some quarters, not all of them Democratic that this isn't a kind of effort at a quote coup? Who heard of managers from the House? I mean frankly

11:04 All they were missing was white sheep, they were like night riders. One White House official told me today in 20 years he said people will remember three things about this that the president was impeached in the house that he was acquitted in the Senate and that the whole thing was a partisan hit No! People remember one thing Clinton was impeached That's... then people don't remember any of the other things Well, now let's just a quick 22 seconds. This is not a true medley but this is the 98 clip. This is Pelosi and Nadler. I rise to oppose these unfair motions which call for the removal of the President United States from office. The independent council knew that

11:45 president was exonerated. The effect of impeachment is to overturn the popular will of the voters there must never be a narrowly voted impeachment or an impeachment supported by one of our major political parties and opposed by the other right all right yeah we know I mean that mainstreams doing this too Fox is playing this and then they flip it around and CNN MSNBC do it every news box I'm sorry It's produced by Fox. Yeah, obvious obvious But it's easy to do but but it doesn't these people do need to be reminded especially Nadler I have a couple of clips. I personally I joke around that I'm a lawyer. I'm not I am a Constitutional scholar is what I have

12:31 You've changed it. Yes as a constitutional scholar, I very much enjoy listening to Alan Dershowitz and we both have been a fan of Dershowitz since the day we started this show and he's never bashful about his political leanings or he's solidly left but he's consistent But once he was consistent about Donald Trump, then he got disinvited from the parties. Martha's Vineyard, The Hamptons... His persona non grata everybody hates him and I do have a personal issue with the Epstein stuff although it seems pretty adamant that it was only received in massage from an old ugly lady and he is wearing his undies

13:15 Sure, I'm sure. Whatever makes sense but i enjoy his presentation style i think he is the only person that presented and i've watched most of this the republican or the president side was called the republic it's easy um as much shorter uh i thought the presentations because they're short they're just like okay i got it and der showitz had two uh two pieces there a little long first one three minutes second ones two minutes But it really broke it down, and I found incredible how he literally is going to—he argued that on the first article, abuse of power, that that is a political act that should be used

14:00 all politics, has been used in all politics and he has several examples to show why that is not an impeachable offense. We can stop it during this first clip if we want to but I personally was like wow you argued that pretty convincingly because what exactly is abusive power? And I didn't get any kind of clip from the house managers Other than, well that's clearly an abuse of power. But how impeachable is it? Is what is now being argued so I guess we're kind of slipping and giving up on the yeah of course he used his power. It was an abusive power yeah but its a political thing it's okay And then obstruction of Congress will get to that in a minute.

14:43 of presidents who in our history have been accused of abusing their power. By the way, I did edit a couple things in this clip for instance I didn't let him ramble on through all the presidents because that was of course the show part you know all the presidents all the things they should have done but I picked out a couple that were pertinent to his argument would be subject to impeachment under the House managers view of the Constitution George Washington, refusal to turn over documents related to the Jay Treaty. John Adams signing and enforcing the alien sedition laws Thomas Jefferson purchasing Louisiana without congressional authorization Abraham Lincoln was accused of abusing his power for suspending the writ of habeas corpus during the Civil War George HW Butch

15:29 The following was released today by the Clinton-Gore campaign. In the past weeks, Americans have begun to learn the extent to which George Bush and his administration have abused their governmental power for political purposes." That's how abuse of power should be used! It's campaign rhetoric! It should be in statements issued by one political party against another. That is the nature of the term. Abuse of power is a political weapon. I really... When I heard this, I was like wow That's interesting. I had not considered that it, that is just purely political but he is arguing it And it should be leveled against political opponents Let the public decide That's true Barack Obama The House Committee on the Judiciary held an entire hearing entitled Obama Administration's Abuse of Power Now by the standards applied to earlier presidents nearly any controversial act by a chief executive

16:23 could be denominated abuse of power. For example, past presidents have been accused of using their foreign policy – even their war powers – to enhance their electoral prospects. Presidents often have mixed motives that include partisan personal benefits along with national interests This example he's going to give of Lincoln, it is well known. It may have come up earlier on a different show but it's good one. Professor Josh Blackman constitutional law professor provided the following interesting example quote in 1864 during the height of the Civil War President Lincoln encouraged General William Sherman to allow soldiers in the field to return to Indiana to vote

17:04 What was Lincoln's primary motivation, the professor asks. He wanted to make sure that the government of Indiana remained in the hands of Republican loyalists who would continue the war until victory. Lincoln's request risked undercutting the military effort by depleting the ranks. Moreover during this time soldiers from the remaining states faced greater risks than did the returning Hoosiers." The professor continues, "'Lincoln had dueling motives.' Privately, he sought to secure victory for his party. But the president, as a president and as party leader and commander in chief made a decision with life or death consequences. Can we impeach him posthumously? Because I think-I think we should! That's an outrage! Professor Blackmun drew the following relevant conclusion from this and other historical events He said politicians routinely promote their understanding of general welfare while in the back of their minds

18:02 considering how these actions will affect their popularity. Often the two concepts overlap, what's good for the country is good for the officials' re-election." All politicians he said understand that dynamic like all human beings presidents and other politicians persuade themselves that their actions, seen by their opponents as self-serving are primarily in the national interest. In order to conclude that such mixed motive actions constituted abuse of power opponents must psychoanalyze the president and attribute him a singular self serving motive Such a subjective probing of motives cannot be the legal basis for serious accusation of abuse of power that could result in removal of an elected President yet

18:51 This is precisely what the managers are claiming. Here's what they said, quote, whether the president's real reason the ones actually in his mind are at that time legitimate What a standard! What was in the president's mind? Actually in his mind? What was the real reason Would you want your actions to be probed for what was the real reason why you acted? even if a president were... and it clearly shows, in my mind that the framers could not have intended this psychoanalytic approach to presidential motives to determine the distinction between what is impeachable and what is not. So I appreciated that argument taking it right to the house manager's own words and say oh wait a minute so you're basing it on what he was thinking? And that isn't something that happens a lot

19:52 in our political climate. Yeah, it's called mind reading. So I like that! I appreciate how Dershowitz explains the law...I have no idea if senators' eyes may have glazed over? I don't know if they care to even pay attention? I think their minds are made up so they're not paying attention but I will say that I listen to this too And that little ditty about the soldiers going back to Indiana. That was pretty good! I didn't know that and it was very funny. Yeah, it's like wow! What a bitch! Take a little time off boys get back home take a vote get back here as soon as you can No worries we'll hold down the fort It's all gonna be good

20:32 Then a much shorter clip here where he explains why quid pro quo is not impeachable if purely political and he uses more examples. Yesterday I had the privilege of attending the rolling out of a peace plan by the President to the United States regarding the Israel-Palestine conflict, and I offered you a hypothetical the other day What if a Democratic president were to be elected in Congress were to authorize much money to either Israel or the Palestinians, and the Democratic president were to say to Israel no I'm going withhold this money unless you stop all settlement growth. Or to the Palestinians, I will withhold the money Congress authorized to you unless you stop paying terrorists and the President said quit

21:22 pro quo. If you don't do it, you don't get the money. If you do it, you get the money. There's no one in this chamber that would regard that as in any way unlawful The only thing that would make a quid pro quo unlawful is if the quo were in some way illegal Now we talk about motive there are three possible motives that a political figure can have. One, a motive in the public interest and the Israel argument would be in the public interest The second is his own political interest and third which hasn't been mentioned would be of his own financial interests His own pure financial interests just putting money into bank I want to focus on this second one for just one moment

22:15 Every public official that I know believes that his election is in the public interest. And mostly you're right, your election is IN the public interest and if a president does something which he believes will help him get elected in the public interest That cannot be the kind of quid pro quo that results in impeachment That was about it. The house managers pretty much, you know I guess their strategy is bombshell every day so we've got the Bolton Bombshell book the three B's b3 Yesterday Lev Parnas walking around I mean just everyday there something some new media thing comes out and I didn't clip it but there was something very interesting which I thought was novel for the time We live in

23:11 And I don't remember who it was, Sekulow or one of the presidents, the defense lawyers said oh the president just tweeted the following. Which is a very interesting way to get the President's word into the proceeding itself by using tweets. I don't think that has ever happened before because you know if you'd like Have something that is newsworthy that you can mention without it being, you know new documentary evidence or hey I just got a note from the president. You know that sounds shitty And I thought that was an interesting move and it was obviously with some bombastic thing about how blahblahblah

23:48 Obviously, but you know so just from a legal perspective I find it interesting. I really do It's fun to watch. I think there is something unresolved which is a Possible outcome that I can't find the answer to and it was not addressed The chief justice of the Supreme Court is presiding over this Not the vice president who in a tie Is the tiebreaker And it's unclear if, let's say Mitt Romney says... No. It is not unclear. If there is a tie who has the deciding vote? Play the clip of impeachment with Nora and Nancy. Oh hold on a second Good I'm so happy this is why there are two of us. And Nancy joins us from the Hill So Democrats tried to make the case that in order to determine motive you need to hear from witnesses What's the likelihood of that

24:43 Nora, it is looking less likely tonight because a couple of key Republicans announced today that they are probably going to vote no on witnesses. Still this vote is going to be razor tight. It could end up at 50 yeas 15 days in which case Chief Justice Roberts would have to decide whether he wants to be the tie-breaking vote That would be incredible. All right, Nancy thank you. Hold on that's not a resolution she says he has to decide if he will be the tie-breaking vote what if he decides no I'm not qualified He could do whatever he wants. I mean, if it was the vice president he could do the same thing and not choose. Can you imagine? Could you imagine Pence like okay if I say impeached then I'm president hmm tough choice. Well then he'd have to recuse himself! It's a conflict of interest so would be a time. Oh my goodness well here's another little clip before we play that

25:43 I don't know why they're not saying it, the M5M. For once it would be appropriate to say at this moment we are in an actual constitutional crisis because we're interpreting the Constitution and there's disagreement. I call this a constitutional crisis. I don't know if the word crisis is correct. It's like climate change being a crisis, so I don't think it's that much of a crisis. Not everyone is running around with their hands in the air. Yeah they are! Do you watch cable news? That's all people are doing! Whaaaaat?! I do watch MSNBC, so I might be completely mistaken.

26:21 Yeah. But here's the little, this is a little clip it's just a very small snippet this is impeachment over by weeks and according to CBS this is play that tonight Republicans are increasingly confident that they will be able to block witnesses in the impeachment trial raising the likelihood that President Trump is acquitted by the end of the week Yeah, well there's supposed to be it's gonna be an issue for the people on the campaign trails This is a whole bunch of stuff going on in Iowa. Just before next week selection on Saturday morning Yeah, I don't think too many people are gonna be complaining at least until those after those meetings are over But let's go back to this Bolton thing. I got kind of

27:01 thinking about this. Now I've got two clips on the Bolton in the book and I'm trying to think which is the clip they should go first let me play the Bolton in the book, this is the CBS rundown President Trump had John Bolton on his mind today at The White House he took to Twitter to attack the man that he once chose to be his national security advisor and the administration is moving to block Bolton's book from being published Ouija Zhang reports tonight from The White House And today we're finally ending the NAFTA nightmare. Even as President Trump signed a new North American trade deal today, he injected impeachment into his remarks while thanking Republican senators. Maybe I'm being just nice to him because I want their vote. The White House is lobbying senators to vote against having witnesses such as John Bolton at the trial on Twitter. The president said his former national security adviser begged him for a job and if

27:56 If I listened to him, we would be in World War VI by now. He also bashed Bolton's upcoming book as nasty and untrue. CBS News obtained this letter from Mr Trumps National Security Council to Boltons lawyer saying the manuscript contains top secret level classified information that may not be published or otherwise disclosed but while it was only made public today the letter is dated January 23rd President Trump said this about Bolton's potential testimony. The problem with John is that it's a national security problem and just three days after the White House halted the manuscript, The New York Times reported it says the president told Bolton military aid to Ukraine depended on investigating the Bidens

28:44 Tonight, Bolton's lawyer tells CBS News that he responded to that letter the very next day to say they don't believe anything in the book could reasonably be considered classified and they have to resolve issues right away since Bolton could be called to testify about that very material. Nora? Hmm... Now so this got me into the timeline of it all and also the fact that this book isn't coming out it seems as if The book was quashed on January 20th and Bulletin Network... Is quashed a publishing term? I think it would be used in publishing. So it means it was deep-six'd, it was not going to be published. Deep six'd! Yeah

29:34 Wow. Hello, Adam's dad. What does that even mean? That is an old man's term deep six. My dad used to say it all the time and he got deep sixed Yeah yeah I got deep six you meant okay boomer i don't even know if this book exists i'm wondering about the whole thing because it seems to be that nobody gets a look at this book because it's a national security risk and there is some issue about whether or not it will get printed but I want to play this Q&A that was on the floor during the impeachment that was given to the Supreme Court guy, Justice Rust. From now on TSCG

30:25 The Supreme Court guy. So this is the Bolton book Q&A at the hearing just to straighten out one little factoid that was left out of the CBS report, which I thought was poor reporting after I heard this. The question from Senator Merkley and other senators is for counsel to the president. Please clarify your previous answer about the Bolton manuscript when exactly did the first person on the President's defense team first learn of the allegations in the manuscript? Secondly, Mr. Bolton's lawyer publicly disputes that any information in the manuscript could reasonably be considered classified Was the determination to block its publication on the basis that it contains classified information made solely by career officials or were political appointees in the White House Counsel's Office or elsewhere in the White House involved?

31:15 The White House Counsel's Office is not involved in classification review, determining what is classified or not classified. I can't state the specifics. My understanding is that it was conducted by career officials at the NSC but it was handled by the NSC so I'm not in a position to give you full information on that. My understanding is being done by career officials but it is not being done by lawyers in the White House Counsel's Office. So that means the book went through right, the proper channels. It didn't have anything to do with Trump getting it killed so they say let's just think this... Let's just say the I don't know

31:53 I don't know. The CIA puts a book together for Bolton to publish and it's loaded with secrets, and they know what is the word goes already in this. You have to kill this book because the reason for the book is not for a book maybe a book will come out eventually but the reasons so you can leak some bogus information that oh yeah I was in the room with Trump when he said quit pro quo and all these bogus claims that supposedly Bolton made so he can be, so now we got to have Bolton testify. When in fact he's got nothing to say about anything but the whole thing is just a complete scam dreamed up by the intelligence agency. And just to point out because I'm sure i don't know if you've had any text messaging with The Lib Joes but this was a New York Times origin. The New York Times did not quote the book

32:42 They say in the book, apparently Bolton says in the book that Trump said to him no announcement of investigation. No money so and you know that is the new I think it's really borderline reporting In this case. I mean they can write whatever they want but and also came out just came on their opinion To be honest here to be fair about it came out on The Opinion page Well, that makes it even worse. And then meanwhile John Kelly the ex-chief of staff comes rolling out and says oh whatever Bolton said I believe whatever he said! He's never seen the manuscript He's never seen the paperwork. He just comes out to get on the bandwagon These hate Trump these anti Trump Republicans which are many of them work for for Trump

33:31 are sickening. And I should mention this about Trump, you know, I think Trump's pretty honest when he says stuff like Bolton begging me for the job which is the same thing because you'd start to notice this with Napolitano. He says well Napolitano wanted to be a Supreme Court judge and I'm sure he did And he wouldn't give it to him, rightly so. And the next thing you know Napolitano hates Trump and he's on the other... He's working for MSNBC now and he's saying bad things. Bolton is kind of in the same way. Now I heard against this, I was listening to enough right-wing talkers that from a number of them they all said that Sean Hannity is the real key guy here because they're all... No Lord help The Republic!

34:13 He says Sean Hannity's the one who insists, who sees Trump apparently a lot. He insisted that Bolton, oh you should hire Bolton, Bolton, Bolton. Because Bolton apparently went to Hannity and begged him to beg Trump! Which explains why Trump is not going on Hannity so much anymore he goes on Ingraham and hmm interesting Here's what I think...I'm pretty sure the president made it known to people off the record, not recorded and possibly Bolton. Hey we need this from you know we need to get this guy going he knows the right thing to do and the fact that even specifically said to Ambassador Sondland as per Sondlands testimony

34:57 No quid pro quo. That's not Trump language, man! No way no way he doesn't talk like that unless he has something in his mind and he knows what to avoid He's had some advice or maybe he was setting a trap that's giving him a lot of credit And so he went right up to the line with everything. That's why he is so confident because you know that there is no actual proof of him saying that, cause Bolton would just be Bolton saying it... It's not proof I think if Bolton came up and testified, he wouldn't even say that. It would be something like a lot of these testimonies that are promising you all God this is gonna be great comes out says nothing. Thousands of sealed indictments. Like you told me it was a bore when it came to do all that sort of thing

35:44 All right. I'm very suspicious about this manuscript and I'm glad you noticed it was the New York Times that leaked his bull crap. I mean, this is pathetic! These guys are just completely off the rails when it comes to this sort of thing there's a new group called The Lincoln Group or The Lincoln something-run by a bunch of Trump haters beginning with George Conway It's unbelievable and they're all just ex old hacks from McCain's groups There's all kinds of press opportunities going on. I pretty much sit by the TV with a recorder jacked in all the time ready to roll it back and capture a clip. Let me see, where did I have this? So then I got that fun little ditty from Chuck Schumer who went out and you know

36:43 He's really, just listen to how he treats the media when he is asked questions. And this grand experiment we call democracy will have been fatally eroded because when Americans lose faith that elections are fair, when Americans lose faith that it is Americans determining who elects the president rather than a foreign power... We got trouble! So Senator you're going to- No pressure, one at a time I thought this might be it. Okay, clip of the day just for that. Oh wow thank you unexpected. One at a time. I thought possible end of show. One at a time. Possible end-of-show ISO. Possible. Well let's go up against my end-of-show suggestion which is the ISO 5 Bidens

37:38 Okay, let's check it out. Five Bidens! Well I have another candidate now during this impeachment Trump was in New Jersey and this was a huge meetup in New Jersey and having lived in New Jersey I can say with some confidence certainly South Jersey am very familiar with Jerseyites really will just vote for the man or woman that they think will do the best job for Jersey. This is why it's a very mixed state, I think people lean liberal kind of blue if you want to give it a color but there have been several famous Republican governors Chris Christie, Christy Todd Whitman

38:27 So I think all of New Jersey, which is very blue-collar certainly in South Jersey is very excited about Trump coming out. And so that's why I was extremely busy. Fox was covering this, but then something happened and they cut away after even laughing in studio. Democrats decided to shield and shelter criminal... look wait you have criminals? Alright we're watching the president here in Wildwood New Jersey. I just want to get a quick comment before we- What does that cover up?! That's the moment to turn up the volume not to cut away! I have no idea what that was about. There's a number of people that pushed that clip around and it was baffling to me, what...

39:10 Well, let's listen to the ice. He was on some role he was gonna go in some direction and he stopped himself mid word It's his brain fried man listen Wait I think you want to say criminal Definitely short it out yeah. Yeah, oh yeah, it was a brain fry for sure For sure. You should wonder the press conferences, you know the standups at the microphone were pretty good I thought there was a good question that was asked of Ted Cruz about Hunter Biden possibly getting a cushy job on board as they say no show board seat

39:55 And because he's the son of Joe Biden, hopefully you can hear the question. My children are 9 and 11. I'm sorry he just goes on about his own children, but I think the question should have played the whole clip that was a I Was gonna play I was gonna cut it. I haven't had no clue Let's listen to the whole list of funny clip because this guy is all work days It could have been equalized a bit The guy's all worked up and he's asking it. This is the stupidest thing moment I think I've seen for a while Basically what they say is Hunter Biden got a job as Vice President If that's a crime, shouldn't half of your children be in prison?

40:42 My children are 9 and 11. I'm sorry that you want to throw a nine-year old in prison, but at this point my third grader plays basketball and softball at her school so stop playing the nasty Washington game! It was good up until that because it's true. I'm sure half of the representatives in the House and Senate, they have children with fantastic jobs! Of course they do! The problem is when you... Cruz is not one of them The problem is when you legislate and that then behooves your children, and of course if this president doesn't even have to be removed from office. Everyone's everyone is now in the crosshairs. Everyone's going to get outed it's gonna cancel culture right on

41:35 I said right on. Well, just while we're still on Biden, I do have one clip. No, we're actually on Cruz and I want to play one more Cruz clip. Unlike the Rudy Giuliani podcast which is just...I mean, I don't know if there's a new one? I've been refreshing haven't seen it yet. It's the worst! Ted Cruz also has a podcast which is I think a better format because he has a guy there asking him questions and so it's more of an informal question answer but it's scripted as to what they're going to talk about. And, um... He said that there is one in- if we get two witnesses which I personally doubt If we get two witnesses and I doubt it because nobody wants the dirty laundry to come out on any side of the equation They are pretending the other way well you know this can't be interesting cause

42:25 A couple more Republicans come over, I'd like to see Romney retreat. That would be funny! Wouldn't that be great? There's something that could be done for these witnesses that i hadn't thought about If we do call additional witnesses, I'm very confident we'll call Hunter Biden But if you call Hunter Biden or rather if the White House calls Hunter Biden to testify before the Senate Can't Hunter Biden just say, I don't want to answer your questions. I plead the fifth and i'm not going to say anything? So he can and if we call Hunter Biden he will almost certainly plead the fifth Now here's the interesting thing there is a federal statute that gives the Senate authority to grant him what's called transactional immunity which means we can force him to testify now he can be prosecuted for anything he testifies too but you can find out

43:18 You can get his testimony and that's something the Senate can do. Grant him immunity, and I gotta say that idea you want to talk about something to terrify 47 Democrats in the Senate? It is the fact that the Senate could grant Hunter Biden immunity and hear his testimony about whether in fact there was corruption from Joe Biden. And let's be clear this is not about look Hunter Biden The guy has led a troubled life This is not about him This is the question about whether his dad abused his power. And this is where Cruz messes up! So now he's accusing Biden of abusing his power the same way they're accusing Trump of abusing power

44:01 It's a quagmire. And that's why it's probably, you're probably right they're not going to bring the witnesses out I'm gonna get you... But i would like to see him get close enough that Romney has to retreat! I'll get you to Biden with this odd, I think very odd thing that happened same setup after the session everyone comes out they huddle around the microphones and the Democrats are standing there and then Joni Ernst who is senator from Iowa. An important senator Says this. That was off message

44:01 It's a quagmire. And that's why it's probably, you're probably right they're not going to bring the witnesses out I'm gonna get you... But i would like to see him get close enough that Romney has to retreat! I'll get you to Biden with this odd, I think very odd thing that happened same setup after the session everyone comes out they huddle around the microphones and the Democrats are standing there and then Joni Ernst who is senator from Iowa. An important senator Says this. That was off message

45:04 I thought that was interesting. Why was it off message? It's against the guy, it's against the party guy Biden is the party guy not Bernie Biden she can't be saying I'm interested if people still want to vote for him thats off-message What messages she supposed to send? She's not a Democrat She's not? Why'd I think she was a Democrat. I don't know, she's anything but a Democrat. She's the gun, totin' Republican! I'm gonna cut that part out of the show that was dumb. Well I didn't know where you were up to... I'm sorry why did i think she was a democrat? I thought I looked it up even okay well It's totally on message way to go Joni Yeah she nailed it Wow Hey you know what You and Trump

45:58 That's just not fair. I don't think it's me and Trump, it's more like me and Schumer. I think you're all giddy about doing Joe Rogan, that's what it is. Oh that must be it yeah no I'm all giddy about it to talk about the Kobe copter crash but let's go to Biden first. We were gonna get to that and I guess I got one clip too to add to your thing and some thoughts but let's go to uh this is on The Mark Levin Fox Show oh my god he has either Parkinson's or his own version of Tourette's have you noticed that?

45:58 That's just not fair. I don't think it's me and Trump, it's more like me and Schumer. I think you're all giddy about doing Joe Rogan, that's what it is. Oh that must be it yeah no I'm all giddy about it to talk about the Kobe copter crash but let's go to Biden first. We were gonna get to that and I guess I got one clip too to add to your thing and some thoughts but let's go to uh this is on The Mark Levin Fox Show oh my god he has either Parkinson's or his own version of Tourette's have you noticed that?

46:40 He's got something wrong with him. Yeah, all right so they say about me see that's my point people look at me and go it's got something wrong with him all right he's got something wrong with them So-so he's on there with this book guy who is writing a book about the bite the five Bidens which is why I thought that ISO was funny and he's just and he's got anecdote after anecdote He goes on and on and one after the other. This is just one of them, I could have made two or three clips and this was too long but you might as well play this to five Biden's mark 11 clip. Five Bidens right it's like a whole family

47:16 I'll say it, of corrupt Bidens. What did you find? You know it's interesting there are two sides to Joe Biden Let me begin with a real small illustration where I think proves the point Joe Biden has been seen as the Amtrak senator The guy who is the regular guy who gets on the Amtrak train would go home to Delaware That's absolutely true But in our research, what we found from local newspaper accounts in Delaware is he not only did that. If he was running late, he would call Amtrak and have them hold the train. So yes, he was regular Joe Amtrak but But if he wanted to pull strings, power for his benefit he would do so. Plus he knew somebody on the board? Yes! His son? Exactly! His son was put on the board Now we talk about The Five Bidens We know about Hunter There's new material about Hunter in the book The chapter is 70 pages long So there is a lot of ground to cover Some other ones are very interesting James Biden for example

48:11 Very, very interesting development. In November of 2010 this old town Biden family friend named Kevin Justice who grew up in Delaware with Joe Biden's kids starts this construction company called Hillstone goes to the White House in November 2010 meets in Biden's office according to White House visitor logs we don't know what they discussed Mark it was his only time he ever visited the White House But three weeks after that meeting, he appoints James Biden the vice president's brother as the executive vice president of the construction company. Now... Did James have any construction background? Great question Mark and the answer is no! He did not in fact on the company bio which is no longer up they said that his skill was he was comfortable in the corridors a political power and of course you're very comfortable when your brothers to second most powerful man in the world

49:04 But that's just the beginning of the story. About six months after James Biden becomes the vice president, this company gets a contract from the federal government to build 100,000 homes in Iraq It's about a billion and half dollar contract. They get 22 million dollar contract with the State Department, they get legions of other federal contracts That's the kind of thing you see repeated over and over with the Bidens And it's all about the timing Mark These things occur when Joe Biden is pulling the strings of governmental power at this time Then he always says I don't know anything about it My son my brother my other brother

49:44 I don't know anything about it. Yeah, Joe is the family franchise and i think he's getting too much credit here. I think Joe Is dumb and we've seen nothing but dumb stuff from him throughout most of his career And I think that he just doesn't, maybe it looks like he's not even thinking through it. Let me see now if I help these credit card guys you know It's like there is all kinds of stuff with him and I'm sure its the same Maybe it's just normal course of business everyone else does it? Is that strange? I think it's rife! I'd like to know about all... Well I think it's rifed too I am not going to argue that whether he's dumb or not remains to be seen Look at show business works exactly the same way

50:24 My kid is in semi show business. She doesn't really want to be in show business, but the money's easy Why because of her parents? you know so you could and you know and Did I put on MTV as a prop when she was three years old there we go yeah So I understand but that MTV is little different than being a senator or vice president Yeah public funds Yeah Which is kind of a different, the major difference and you're not supposed to do that in government because it's just...

51:01 It's against the law. It's not against the law to give your daughter any anything she wants in terms of helping Oh, yeah I understand but that but people forget that they just get complacent I have a couple of Joe clips here none of them are great audio quality We know why because The Audio Guy and the iPhone video guy hate Joe apparently want to make him sound as crappy as possible And here he is threatening Trump. He's gonna understand what a punch means! Here Joe,

51:49 completely validates our previous discussion as documented and propagated to the universe in the animated No Agenda episode VP predictions for Uncle Joe, which I think Jennifer did a fantastic job once again. It was one of the best. I mean it's funny and you were funny It was a lot of it was your bit so that really they've worked so well I'm so proud of that series not that I do anything for but I'm still we'll take total credit. We'll take total credit Animated no agenda he validates my concept of vice presidential pick

52:29 eight women, at least four or five people of color that I think are totally qualified to be Vice President of the United States. But for me it has to be demonstrated that whoever I pick is capable of needing to be a president because I'm an old guy. No, no seriously look i mean thank god I've been great at all that work out now I'm serious you know I workout every morning I'm in good shape knock on wood as my mother would say That was worse than I even thought it would be uh It was pretty bad but you could understand it yeah he said you know hey whoever's gonna be vice president is going to take over cause I'm an old guy I'm gonna drop dead Pretty much!

53:13 Oh no, what does that mean? Could it be... Here she is coming in once again for the swoop. A lot of us saw the Hillary Clinton Variety interview and there's only one part you need to know about You only saw half of it here's a full 1 minute 4 seconds in context Do you have..you don't have to tell me who it is but have you picked who your going to vote for In the primary 2020 primary You know, I'm going to vote. That's what let me leave it at that. I will definitely vote! I vote every time there is an election and I am telling everybody here at Sundance everywhere I go please please get out and vote And then whoever the nominee is support that nominee whether its you know someone who voted for or not in the primary process because

54:05 the most important responsibility we all have is to retire Donald Trump. I know that you're not running, but do you ever feel the urge that like...I could beat him if I were? Or like I wish I'd go. Yeah, yeah, I certainly feel the urge because I feel like the 2016 election was really an odd time and odd outcome And the more we learn the more that seems to be the case But i'm going to support people who are running now and do everything I can to help elect uh the democratic nominee. She feels the urge! He's slipping in a little sounds of the eagle it's not an eagle man, it's a pterodactyl you crazy? Don't you know the difference? You can't have Hillary represented by an eagle so they... By the way just as an aside, did we have couple hawks and eagles around here

54:05 the most important responsibility we all have is to retire Donald Trump. I know that you're not running, but do you ever feel the urge that like...I could beat him if I were? Or like I wish I'd go. Yeah, yeah, I certainly feel the urge because I feel like the 2016 election was really an odd time and odd outcome And the more we learn the more that seems to be the case But i'm going to support people who are running now and do everything I can to help elect uh the democratic nominee. She feels the urge! He's slipping in a little sounds of the eagle it's not an eagle man, it's a pterodactyl you crazy? Don't you know the difference? You can't have Hillary represented by an eagle so they... By the way just as an aside, did we have couple hawks and eagles around here

55:02 And they have wide ranging area. One was hovering directly over the house as I was coming in from outside, just hovering just stop dead and it was I think a red tail not sure by two high up but you could see it up there and he make that noise that noise the swoop noise this squawking noises during swooping. That one Well, something like that. Yeah. Well from whatever the bird sounds like yeah that sound they don't make that sound when swooping they make that sound while there's hovering to get the attention of the little animals because if you hear it and your look because when I heard it first thing I did was look up really gets your attention is very interesting and they keep making the noise over and over again trying

55:50 stir something. It's like, what's that? You know kind of thing and it is fascinating anyway. Well I have an aside hearkening back to the almost inaudible Joe Biden clip in there he says you know I've got number women and people of color who I'm looking at...I have it on Supreme Authority from that ADOS podcast with Moe and I asked him specifically he is not alone when you say people of color He hates that. He's black just to take a lot of blacks do and he says people who say that Typically don't have any black friends probably but the New York Times uses that as a part of their style guide and having you know, I Don't make that change because that's not dad voice thought there was it a I always thought it was a sketchy Usage people of color. I think I think is arrogant

56:46 Here's the headline, how some people of color feel inside the Buddha judge campaign New York Times right there. Right there so that's just an aside and I think it's in fact Mo said when he hears people of color his brain translates it to colored people which is I can't help but this just how different is it really? I think it may actually stem from that. It may stem from a desire to say colored people by the racists at The New York Times and elsewhere! Now you're getting to the point... I think that could be right, see what he thinks about that? Well, he listened so let me know

57:25 So Joe, of course has some in fact we have the latest from I don't know is this CNN Let me see. We've been saying for a long time We don't have enough polls out of Iowa now. We have too many to count Here's three of the most recent and there's more than this in the last few days But you see there is a poll out there with Biden up about bunch that have Sanders ahead. If you average everything together in Iowa, average of all the polls out there currently this is what it looks like right now you mentioned Sanders now in the lead and the average 25 Biden 22 Warren back at 14 you mentioned Buttigieg it's interesting because I think there's probably a lot of overlap there in terms of Buttigieg and his supporters he's almost doing like a horse race isn't he? You hear that? And it ends up coming down to about 23 points we've got

58:10 Buddha Jet, Buddha Jet, Buddha Jet from the outside. Buddha Jet, Buddha Jet oh no here comes Pocahontas! Should work on that so that clip goes on but the point being that Bernie B-surgeon. Bernie B-surgeon everybody and that's a problem and countermeasures are now in place as the Convention Commission for the DNC have been announced And I actually somewhere have the full list. But just to let you know that one of the two of the prominent names on the list, Barney Frank and John Podesta

58:10 Buddha Jet, Buddha Jet, Buddha Jet from the outside. Buddha Jet, Buddha Jet oh no here comes Pocahontas! Should work on that so that clip goes on but the point being that Bernie B-surgeon. Bernie B-surgeon everybody and that's a problem and countermeasures are now in place as the Convention Commission for the DNC have been announced And I actually somewhere have the full list. But just to let you know that one of the two of the prominent names on the list, Barney Frank and John Podesta

58:52 Bernie, Frank and John Podesta. Yep! Wow! Okay boomers so they are on the committee and this is pissing off a lot of people including Bernie this is Nina Turner she is from the Bernie campaign and she is not having any of their own party of course even though they're really not Democrats they're socialists and just running on the Democrat ticket but it's a big tent every Everybody fits under it. Very disappointing to see Chairman Perez build a list of this magnitude, it also shows a lack of understanding about what the grassroots asked for post the 2016 election It is an embarrassment

59:36 the DNC should be ashamed of itself because it really is a slap in the face to folks who are asking for reform. And let me just say this, that if the DNC believes that is going to get away 2020 with what it did in 2016, it has another thing coming and also hurts the Democratic Party itself, a party that should be big tent Big tent! Nope, not big enough for you. So that's... and I can feel the Bernie anger amongst his constituents. Although no one cares, Project Veritas keeps trying to make a big deal out of it showing the Bernie bros like we're gonna burn man! Burn everything! We're just gonna burn everything! We're gonna burn Madison! We're going to burn Milwaukee! Yeah but I'm a tough guy. I'm from Milwaukee. I ain't gonna burn. People you know they gotta be very careful

1:00:36 I think, I mean...I don't know who's running the show how it works. It seems like a very closed box black box but the people who voted for Bernie Sanders in 2016 they are not going to let the same thing happen. I hope they know all of the tricks that were played including the phony polling places that would swap out ballots. I'm making accusations, i can't prove but there's a lot of... a lot of circumstantial evidence And they're gonna be pretty, they're gonna be angry. Yeah and there's a major touch if you also remember during the primaries in New York there was like number of precincts that never reported a vote! They all disappeared! Yes that's... Remember that? Yeah yeah exactly. Those were old Bernie districts I don't know how that worked and with that though i'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the C in

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1:06:16 Idiot Savant I can be B on occasion so I walked into the other one. I miss is that 1212 is also 3-3 Yes, if you count them up in the end in the conspiracy theory way 1 plus 2 was 3 plus 1 plus 2 Dash is 33 can't see it man's clear day 33. Having ascended to barren status, he writes on show 999 with a show donation and Viscount status on Show 1111 with another show donation it seemed only fitting to continue the trend with a show donation of 1212 I'm on a roll! And by my calculation i will make it to Archduke right about Show 2020 Wow that's gonna be a party

1:07:00 That's slightly less than seven years and ten months from now. Yeah, it'll be a funeral if one of ours how can we last? Seven years... okay well whatever it takes you know there are other show numbers in between that are kind of cool I don't know hey thanks Rog! We do have uh 2020 coming up this month. Yeah, or anyway, or just about the time Trump will be running for his fourth term. He makes a joke that I stepped all over. No jingles, but I appreciate some land hunting karma as I'm on the lookout for a nice big mountaintop to hunker down on until the Corona scare passes by. LOL And last but not least please give yet another douchebag call out to Tall Paul. Clearly a slacker sincerely sanely yours

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1:10:15 No, that's just some freight train. The Zephyr came at on time and then continued on time Anywho he says you'll find it I had to say that yes, I see it You'll find an additional hundred twenty dollars thirty dollars for three additional a n a animated no agenda videos and $90 to make up the difference I was credited with in show 1203. Wow, that's the honor system working right there! I love people who do that yes thank you so much Matthew and again very very generous of you as well and i'm gonna throw out a karma because I feel like he deserves it You've got Karma even though we didn't ask Matthew Brahe

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1:12:03 Roderick Lenhart, 33369. ITM Jensen on my sixth and final leg of my 65 day honeymoon smoking hot wife photo attached! I didn't see it. She's a gorgeous wife. It fell behind four to five episodes as we enter coronavirus land. Can i just make a policy? Can I set a policy for the show I don't like coronavirus. I think we should just consistently call it Wuhan flu It's so much cooler Well, this makes me well not to just break away from this but it makes me wonder how serious they are about this. There are some people think well I think you're amongst them and the whole thing's a scam Yeah i don't like the branding This is not good branding And the fact that they're branding at this way as a general coronavirus there's lots of different coronaviruses SARS was a corona virus The other one was too MERS uh and this one if they were

1:13:08 I think the whole thing may just be a short-term situation. We'll get to that, we'll get to that... If it was long term you're right they'd call it the Wuhan virus! So I think we should call it the Wuhan flu not virus, Wuhan flu? That sounds scarier, I could catch it. The Wuhan flue! The Wuhan scourge! They are never going to do that, never mind Okay, we're gonna substitute as we go. Yes and I fell behind four to five episodes as we enter Wuhan flu land Yeah, I couldn't wait to hear some real analysis about the impeachment trial once I hit wife up once I hit Wi-Fi We arrived in Chiang Mai Thailand. No, I've been there and what you know it is

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1:14:34 Is he on the list or anything? Because he's not blued out here. No, he is not soon to be... He is not yet but he's- This doesn't mean now can be soon to be. It means what it says. Please kick an old school at him and give me a clippity-clop don't hit eat me Hillary two to the head and a little girl yay. It's Clippity Clop The message is clear Just Clippity Clop Eat Me Hillary Clinton! Yes! There you go old school Excuse me. Yeah, I finally got rid of my cough it's almost gone a month a month I was thinking about we were in Soho which is Is pretty much China because it's all Asian students and of course I immediately equate someone who looks Asian to Chinese? I think I got like an early version of the Wuhan flu yeah No seems unlikely

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1:16:18 As a recovering journalist, I appreciate your deconstruction. I'm disappointed how my previous profession has deteriorated." Read that again! That's important and I like hearing that. Well, I have a comment on it... As a recovering journalist, I appreciate your deconstruction. I am disappointed at how my profession – my previous profession has deteriorated." Yes. Well as I played the clip medley from 1998… I'm not sure it has. It's just as bad, only there is more YouTube. I was thinking about this last night actually because it seems as though it just happened but then I started relating stories of my kids when they were in the second grade

1:17:07 Stuff that went back into the during the Barry Goldwater era in the 60s and 70 I don't think it's deteriorated at all. I think it's been this way And it's just now being noticed because The change in the structure of the media and social media and these other Internet and other things, I think have made it more apparent interesting you bring that up because I too had a thought about days of days gone by of the yesteryear about the social media, how people just become total dickheads on social media once they're anonymous and why we have this incredible discord. Just anger and people yelling all the time when I first got on the Usenet news groups

1:17:53 And some of you may have to look that up. U-S-E N-E-T, USENET news groups and I remember it was a fantastic system because basically you had a local copy of all these bulletin boards And at night it would circulate around the whole internet and everybody would get their updates. So you could post something but it wouldn't come back until a day or two when everyone had seen it, had circulated... It was just a beautiful system for the amount of people that were online then this is before the web and I remember going on alt dot music dot I don't know maybe music video or something as MTV guy Adam Curry and I remember immediately

1:18:32 You're not supposed to quote in line? You have to do this, you have to say this. And then we had something called netiquette if you recall. Netiquette how you're supposed to speak with each other online but it was the same thing it was anonymous people yelling at other people over trivial stuff It's just gotten easier to do but there is something about human behavior The minute you let someone talk in a group and it's completely anonymous, people become dickheads. Nothing new under the sun. Well that was the gift of the internet. Yeah exactly! Nothing new. It's the same thing. Now the funny thing about Usenet just as an aside

1:19:26 Now, Usenet was kept in play for years after things of the web began in 93 approximately and that Usenet was still running in the late 90's. And it was largely taken over as a structure by if you remember this product I may be wrong about the names but I'm going to try to remember Deja vu. Yes, yes. Which was a system that organized using it for you so you could still go on deja vu and you could go into these old groups does something dot alt dot blah da blah da blah right? And it was structured so it was easier to navigate everything was better about it

1:20:05 And that was on the web. That was on the web at the time, wasn't it? Yeah It went through a web browser So you could use used net on the web browser and it would stay alive and it was vibrant and it was running Google bought it dead looked left look right and killed it and then they started or cut or whatever Killed it yeah Yeah, it was so well organized to you go all dot binaries You wanted one porn picture, you had to download for five hours. You had the download 18 different parts and then have a program that reassembled it. Yeah well that's kind of the way BitTorrent was organized! Yeah its true I think everything... You're so right man everything is nothing changes really all right and thank you Michael for uh... We haven't finished this note at all we jumped right over there.

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1:38:23 All right, let's go to the chopper. Okay you got a clip to set me up here? I do have one little clip this is a little short clip with some information that this is and this was most recent this is CBS in their little discussion they talk mostly of course Kobe Bryant died in his helicopter we everyone knows that and it became the news top of the news for the whole week yep And continues and now there's some controversies because certain people are, cancel culture oriented people are trying to defame his... Because of his rape charges some years back. And they're trying to make fun of it or condemn him but the guy is dead

1:39:15 And I mean, come on people. Really? Meanwhile there was a you know there was some controversy over the crash itself and this is part of the CBS report that was actually about five minutes long mostly talking about all his awards Kobe Bryant's helicopter was only about three minutes from reaching the Camarillo Airport New video from a doorbell camera captured the sounds of the chopper falling from the sky With nine aboard for its final flight in worsening weather, the helicopter was flying without black boxes or a terrain awareness warning system known as TAUs. That could have alerted the pilot to the jagged landscape. But the FAA only requires those technologies for helicopter air ambulances. TAUs could have helped provide information to the pilot, it's something we've recommended several times over a number of years Today, the Lakers practice for the first time since Sunday's crash as tributes continue to flood in

1:40:15 Yeah, I think Right because we heard about this the troll room alerted me during the last show and right after it. I took a quick look Can you remember the first thing? I said, I'll tell everybody what you said You we talked to once we discovered what the chopper was it was a Sikorsky SK-67 I can't remember the name 76 76 Adam's sad, you know that's considered one of the safest helicopters there is And it usually has two pilots. I'll bet you that the guy was like maybe one pilot and they probably didn't have, he probably checked in as a visual only instead of using instruments and

1:40:58 and probably crash from, you know just kind of like... Well the first thing out of my mouth which I'd hoped you would remember was scud running. I literally said oh yes, scud running. I never remembered that because it's too screwy a term right so the reason why uh i'm uniquely qualified for this particular flight Reasons are I am rated single-engine complex fixed wing and rotary several types. So, I'm certified to fly and of course Robinson 2244 Enstrom 480B turbine. I owned an operated and piloted although not all the time in Augusta 109E power twin turbine helicopter

1:41:43 which is very similar to the S-76, but the S-76 is bigger. Significantly bigger but it's the same idea twin turbines although I do not hold an instrument rating I have had 15 hours of instrument training 25 hours flying helicopters 1500 hours fixed wing I also owned a helicopter company that operated for high-end clients and had an AOC, an Air Operator Certificate which is basically an airline very hard to get. You know there's a lot of rules, lot of regulations so i understand the private owner experience. I understand operating for demanding clients and just to give you

1:42:29 Two examples, because this does come into play in this particular story. My instructor would also operate aircraft for other clients and he had a very wealthy guy who had a King Air twin turbo prop I think it's 12 seats very nice aircraft and he and family friends were gonna go on a flight somewhere and they showed up with 13 people And a child, an extra child. They're like well you can just sit on someone's lap and William said no not you if any of you don't like it you can take your plane get off get out in my hangar go and he was that how I was taught. It's like no! You cannot have an extra person there are regulations you gotta stick to it and there are reasons for it

1:43:16 My personal experience with my own aircraft, the Augusta 109E Power when I was not flying. I was in the co-pilot seat and we had a replacement pilot named Pete Barnes and he was from UK Helicopter Company that also operated the Augusta 109's as it was a fill in pilot as were getting ready to take off Actual little wisps of smoke come out of the control panel from the transponder and You can pull these are modules. He pulls a module out says oh damn it fried, but we have clearance So let's just tell him once We're in the air that that something's wrong with the transponder Otherwise they won't let us take off and we took off And I thought at that very moment I'm never flying with this guy ever again

1:44:01 because yeah it might just look like the transponder blue but because I think he was like a flashy guy and i say was, because if you recall at Battersea in London just a couple years ago bad weather private pilot goes with an Augusta goes to pick up uh a customer. It really was not the right weather his tail boom hit a crane he died two people on the ground died and that was Pete Barnes so there's this get theiritis is what we talk about, especially when you're flying high profile or high net worth individuals which is also a high profile. So that's part one and by the way

1:44:42 Did not start my investigation with this I first immediately went looking for any evidence that this was an Illuminati sacrifice For the Grammys the next day and I'm serious about that because yeah You are serious because in fact you went you watched the guy watch some of the grams didn't watch all of them But I know you watched the Grammy specifically for a Luminati stuff. Yeah, it's always there It's always so yeah, it's almost creepy Yeah, so but you know I think there's too much evidence that points to what really happened here and so here's the next data point that you need to understand. And instrument flying rules visual flying rules special visual flying rules not that important in this case other than to understand that if you want to fly on instruments

1:45:31 and there are exceptions to this in different situations, but basically that's leaving from an airport going to another airport. Your flight is mapped out it's known at the whole point is that air traffic control is going to try and sequence you for when you arrive and that's why you have slot times. You've heard of this oh we missed our slot time because that is part of the IFR, the instrument system. And this helicopter flies perfectly well with instruments with a single pilot it's called Single Pilot IFR That's only for the flying part. It doesn't land automatically, it doesn't hover you have to be going in this aircraft I think 50-55 or 60 knots to even engage the instruments but your still hand flying down on instruments down to the ground but you can definitely get through some real pea soup everything else is visual hovering in a helicopter is very important

1:46:26 You cannot hover... well, of course there are some AI systems. I'm sure you can find a video somewhere where someone created a helicopter that hovers by itself but no! You need to be able to see outside. You need to be able to see your horizon otherwise you cannot hover the aircraft The second part of the situa...of the space... Why? Spatial awareness. You have to, because you are keeping that in balance it's almost like a ballet move all your both your feet and your arms are working with the cyclic and the collective one is for up-and-down one is for left right forward just make it simple

1:47:08 You need to see the horizon to know where you are for your inputs, and it's miniscule. There is none of this left right... It's like a quarter of an inch and then back otherwise you can get into oscillate Once you can do it, its like riding a bike but you cannot do it without being able to see A horizon doesn't matter if it could be lights as long as you see horizon it cant' be white out And the whiteout is what we're talking about here And I have been in whiteouts twice. It's actually part of your instrument training when you are in an aircraft and you cannot see out the windows, the same spatial awareness issue pops up as someone who has vertigo

1:47:53 within one second, maybe even less than a second that you're in a complete I cannot see outside the aircraft. I can't see horizon whether it's fixed wing or helicopter You will immediately be disoriented you will think I'm leaning to the left I have to lean over I have to move the stick over to the right... You will be upside down within about eight seconds and you won't even know it Or you could be in a dive if you could be in a crazy climb It's everyone, every pilot will tell you this. It cannot be done You have to immediately go to your instruments To your horizon and that will keep you safe And I've had this happen in again...I don't have instruments so i have been special VFR which means you can kind of see the ground it's bullshit! I can't really see but I'm not in the cloud So let me go just for permission across some aerodrome

1:48:46 With the plane I flew, the Cessna, it had a leveler. So you get into the clouds and hit the leveler immediately it goes... It's just going to keep your level then you have to look down at your instruments and make sure that you're not in a dive or going up or down but you can't look outside. I've also had it happen with helicopters And it was on the way from Amsterdam to Belgium. Luckily I knew where I was, I knew that it was all flat there were no wires anywhere because thats what kills most helicopters So I got into a situation white out and just flew into something and it was white all around me immediately went to the instruments

1:49:22 slowed down straight ahead, no turns whatsoever. I'm just concentrating on keeping it straight and level slowly lowering the collective so i come down out of the whatever cloud i was in very scary experience here's what happened and it can only be one of two things in all cases of aviation mechanical or human error and the human error will be the pilot in this case Although the pilot knew what he was doing, was very familiar with the terrain. He should have in my mind filed for instruments and gone to an airport And had his passengers you know take an uber from there to wherever they're going to go So you've got nine people nine passengers in this aircraft or eight eight or nine

1:50:09 So it's full, you've got kids that go into a game and you show up at Burbank. You want to cross the Burbank airspace so you can go around and make your left to go wherever he wanted to go but because it was not IFR because it was not on instruments he had to hold And in fact they had to hold for other aircraft who were slotted and scheduled to come in and one of them was on a go-around which means they missed their approach for whatever reason probably because of the weather And so they were all IFR. So he was not IFR and had to circle, it's...I'm not sure if its 12 minutes or 15 minutes

1:50:47 Let me tell you, circling in a helicopter that's full of people is not fun. The passengers don't like it It gets annoying You get anxious Just...you'd have to witness it for 15 minutes And I'm sure it's like okay I got people on the back who really want to get out of this thing It gets very claustrophobic when you're doing this and these are pretty tight turns So I think that clouded his judgment And when he made his turn, he was following the 101 to go right... you know it's completely the way you do it. Everything according to the book except he hit a whiteout situation and he did the first thing I think would be the right thing to do in this case because he knew terrain was ahead

1:51:34 He pulled up, but then he made I think a critical error and maybe it's because he saw that he wasn't going to clear the top. There are some reports that he was only 20-30 feet away from clearing. He made a decision to turn That decision was a fatal one. Why he turned left, I'm not so sure because that is in this helicopter the pilot sits on the right-hand side you couldn't see anyway He decides to do what we call a wing over is the way I see it So you turn left kick the tail and he lost his spatial awareness inverted and they crashed I don't think any of they probably didn't even know they were upside down And they were and it was just boom right away. So bottom line

1:52:17 should have flown IFR. Well, somebody did something wrong now a lot of people think... He did something wrong! The pilot made a poor decision in planning. You had a long exposition at the beginning of this lecture about demanding clients. How does that come into play? Why'd you even mention it? Did you not hear what I said? Unless it was Kobe or somebody who's saying, hey buddy we gotta do this again. What part did you miss where I said that they wanted to land at the sports club. He made the decision instead of saying it could get a little patchy, I'm gonna fly you to the airport on instrument then you take a 10 minute Uber ride from there that was one. The second one... That was Gamorillo yeah. The second part is when you're in a hold for 12-15 minutes

1:53:11 It may people get anxious, kids get anxious. It's not a fun experience it's not even in a hold in a 747 gets annoying after awhile I know you've witnessed it like here we go again and returning again and returning again now imagine that... Oh yeah you start bitching to the passengers of people next year What's this bullcrap? So I- Alright, so of course it was just the anxiety or the anger of the... No. This is pilot...I don't care how angry your passengers are he should have said no i'm flying you IFR instruments and then you can take a cab from there that I think that was the big mistake

1:53:56 So the reports are pretty accurate in this case not the early reports which went on for days. I heard the engine sputtering please Yeah, oh he was hovering in the clouds no No He wasn't none of that was taking place so I wish I could make it more spectacular like an Illuminati sacrifice But unfortunately bad day It happens to a lot of good pilots sadly So if you have a helicopter and it's clear everything is fine, and you wanted to just go straight up hovering just going again gaining altitude how high could you go? So there are two types of hover the in ground hover and the out-of-ground hover that depends entirely on how much fuel and passengers you're carrying.

1:54:46 So most, so for instance this helicopter when it had was pretty much full you got a VIP interior lots of human beings enough fuel. Taking off, coming up into a hover above the ground because you're then in-ground. You have an air cushion between you and the ground that will work with this helicopter to then fly you have to transition and start moving forward to create lift which is just like an airplane where the rotors function as wings If you, and it depends on how high because of course you have different density the higher you go. if you don't have all that weight and your at the right weight balance you can do an out-of ground hover or just hover in the sky like police helicopters do some helicopters depending on what they have onboard how much weight they have can do that 18 thousand feet You see it all the time with mountain rescues but not when your fully loaded

1:55:50 In other words, I think what you're saying is could he have just stopped and been in a hover? A. No because you can't do that in the complete whiteout situation B. He probably didn't have... Actually I'm wondering how high like let's say a police helicopter or something that's got pretty empty could just go straight up and keep going How would what altitude would it be like I can't do this anymore That totally depends on the aircraft. It has to be... I mean, let's just say the most optimal is there any craft that can go to 40 000 feet? No no uh the top i think for specially equipped and it's usually Sikorskis or Eurocopters

1:56:39 6 I think comes to mind, 35. Yeah the Eurocopter 135 they can be outfitted to do that at you know up to 18 000 feet two problems one you're going to start getting breathing problems because you're not pressurized and you need oxygen and at a certain point you know it you just can't go any higher there's not enough airflow the density drops to such a degree that just you're flapping around in nothing okay yeah i've always wondered about that yeah Why do I wonder about it? Maybe you want to go on a trip. I personally, I gotta tell you...I don't fly in helicopters. Not as a passenger any of that. I don't like it. I don't trust it for a lot of these reasons Wow yeah let's okay well I think we're done with that. You've solved all the questions have been answered now We'll probably go another week with the tributes to Kobe

1:57:38 Yeah, you know. Meanwhile... I don't know anything about Kobe. To change the subject because we have a big thing coming up that nobody's talking about. Brexit! And Farage was at the... This was great! Well, now I clipped it but I clipped it in two parts. I clipped the beginning and then took-I had to gut it because that went on for five minutes so you got the beginning and the ending? I'm sure they got the beginning and the ending. The endings is the beauty. It's the beauty yes I agree So uh..and also have a press conference

1:58:18 Now, there's also he did a press conference afterwards which is kind of interesting and for informational purposes. And we may or may not want to play that this show but let's start with the Farage goodbye number one. This is Farage and the UK European Union parliamentarians at Starfleet command in the big hall and I believe the president of Fond du Lion, I think she was presiding. Yes she was. The new female head honcho of the European Union A 47 year political experiment that the British frankly have never been very happy with my mother and father signed up to

1:58:56 A common market, not to a political union. Not to flags, anthems, presidents and now you even want your own army? For me it's been 27 years of campaigning and over 20 years here in this Parliament I'm not particularly happy with the agreement we're being asked to vote on tonight but Boris has been remarkably bold in the last few months and Ms Von der Leyen, he's made it clear. He's promised us there'll be no level playing field and on that basis I wish him every success in the next round of negotiations – I really do!

1:59:39 But the most significant point is this, what happens at 11pm this Friday 31st January 2020 marks the point of no return. Once we've left we are never coming back and the rest frankly is detail We're going! We will be gone And that should be the summit of my own political ambitions Just for everyone's knowledge, I clipped the whole thing so the full clip is in there. What i think you don't have although it is interesting to go back and listen to later Is Faraj talking about the do-overs? No no second part of us got the do overs Oh he has the do overs in there okay because what I'm hearing is yeah they made...they had this vote

2:00:31 in the European Parliament but it's still going to be a while until they've actually done the final paperwork. Yes, December 2020 he did this is the part I did cut out that 20... The fact that yeah okay on Friday this ends but well i have a clip for that later let's get to the second part okay this is the good part and you may loathe populism but I'll tell you a funny thing It's becoming very popular And it has great benefits. No more financial contributions, no more European Court of Justice, no more common fisheries policy, no more being talked down to, no more being bullied, no more Guy Verhofstadt!

2:01:15 I mean what's not to like? I know you're gonna miss us. I know you want a ban on national flags, but we're going to wave you goodbye and will look forward in the future to working with you as sovereign Right that was where his microphone was cut off if you disobey the rules you get cut off Could we please remove the flags? Mr Farage Could we remove the flags please? That's it, it's all over. Finished! We're gone. Can I please ask for quiet? Please sit down and resume your seats put your flags away you're leaving and take them with you if you are leaving now Take this flag and shove it! Can I just say

2:02:19 If I may say, Justin a slight reference the word hate was used. Oh yeah, yes now You're right? I didn't care thought I had it in there but I didn't have it in the second half where they he bitches about all the do-overs and Claims that the British he expected the British to do it too But they didn't The whole thing was funny because At the very end she cuts him off as he's saying the last two or three words because they all pulled these little bitty British flags out there. They're like little desktop, like souvenir flags. They're waving them like you know there's about 20 people and they're waving these little flags and she gets bent out of shape about it

2:02:58 Take those flags with you! It's so juvenile. Here is a report as to what we can expect tomorrow night at 11pm, Gitmo Nation UK time and then what it really means I think At 11pm of course Boris Johnson wanted Big Ben to bong But that's almost an impossibility because of course as we all know Big Ben is under refurbishment and it was going to cost a rather large amount of money to actually make that happen. So instead at Downing Street there'll be a light show put on with a clock that's going to be shown on the side of Downing Street, of course the Prime Minister's residence and there will be a countdown there at Parliament Square people who supported Brexit

2:03:44 will be coming out to also count down to that moment 11pm of course in Britain which is 12 pm in the European Union so the European Union got its way on that one. So there'll be some sort of celebrations I think at Parliament Square but, This issue has divided a nation so not everyone will be celebrating. There will also be those commiserating, those people that didn't want the UK to leave the European Union but I think after that comes Saturday morning Boris Johnson for one will be hoping that everyone can just move forward we can all stop talking about Brexit that is what I think you'll hope for. So the critical phase, I think will be done but there will be more pain to come that's for sure because Boris Johnson will have just 11 months to come up with a free trade deal with the European bloc and already there are some European leaders saying that that's an impossibility it can't be done that quickly so again they'll be a

2:04:42 crunch time at the end of this year in December because if a free trade deal can't be done then there could be an no-deal Brexit and, of course all the uncertainty that then comes with that. But this today in the European Parliament you saw Nigel Farage they're flying his British flag His parliamentary career is over for all the right reasons according to him So that was a key moment, but there is still more to come Friday night and then a little pause and come back in December. So the way I read this is they agreed to go figure it out in 10 months from now only There's no going back but they still haven't actually negotiated the exit she's taught They're still talking about a hard brexit what has what is going on?

2:05:29 I wish i knew. It's obvious that this is just another stalling tactic, they're really leaving. I agree! You can say what you want but I'm not seeing them leaving yet What's going to happen is that the British congregation or the contingent in the EU parliament is not going to be there anymore they're gonna be gone But meanwhile, I found this press conference interesting because Farage has asked a lot of questions about a lot of things but some Swiss guy comes up and asks about the EU is pressuring Switzerland to

2:06:07 join and Farage had some observations about the whole EU and the EU structure, why it has an appeal. It doesn't have an appeal to the masses but it has an appeal to the professional politician, the political class which I think is being reflected in a lot of areas including United States but when you listen to it from his experience and point of view, you can see it's a corrupting influence and you can see why. Listen to this. Another example you mentioned quite often during all these years is Switzerland so even – my question would be even Switzerland it seems or the government at least wants to tie itself closer to the European Union to keep this access to the interior markets

2:06:52 So what would you say to the Swiss? How do you see the Swiss model nowadays, is it still a model for UK in future? Well look I don't know any Swiss models personally but i'm sure that... You have us alright. You have a model of direct democracy which I'm insanely jealous of. The fact that you are able to hold your political class to account by holding referendums at the national level or an account on level, I like and after all Brexit's only happening because we had the ability to have a referendum and make a decision if it'd been left to politicians we wouldn't even be discussing this

2:07:31 and Switzerland is rich too, it's done incredibly well and it's really rather small in terms of size. It has carved out its own position the difficulty in Switzerland of course you highlighted beautifully your question is that everywhere the political class loves the European Union on the people don't and this is perhaps hardly surprising I mean look for most people coming to Brussels even as a MEP you know, and you get chauffeur driven cars an endless list of invitations to champagne receptions. You're told your the elite in Europe it's all very tempting I'm and you know you probably start to earn money that you had that you could only have dreamt up. It is amazing thing isn't it? That in this city of Brussels within a couple miles where we are there are 10,000 people earning more than the British Prime Minister

2:08:25 So from the perspective of Swiss politicians and bureaucrats and civil servants, what's not to like? It is the same story all over Europe. The EU have done their best to try and bully Switzerland but I think Brexit will give them other things to think about or maybe take a bit of pressure off you. There were lot of European parliamentarians or UK European parliamentarians who were crying And I think some of them were crying because wow we did it and also holy crap there goes my cushy lifestyle. Yeah, it sounds like fun. I mean you know over there you're making it like...I don't know what they're making? They're making more than the British Prime Minister and I don't know his salary but it's probably a few hundred thousand dollars that but with all the perks and the freebies and chauffeurs. You can hire your family, you have a budget for that. You get a per diem and I think the per diem is 150 euros a day so

2:09:25 Plenty of videos of this. I think Farage even did one, uh people who show up you know they'll fly in to Brussels or to um the other place where is it? Strasbourg I think yeah if they fly in It'll be like four in the afternoon they go into the...I'm sorry 300 per diem I'm being corrected by myself 300 euros per diem but you have to show up sign You get your 300 euros and they go right back out get in the car and go to dinner So they take the 300, I showed up here. Here i am let me sign because you have to sign for it that's a that's imagine that That's better than podcasting! I'd say uh-huh and we don't get the chauffeurs or any of the perks Far from it Uber can I call uber? Yeah so we'll have we'll have to see exactly how this goes with Brexit but to me I think you're right We can call a stalling tactic but what the British people want

2:10:24 My understanding for my friends and what I read is They said just get it done. We're sick and tired of it they don't care this do it that was the slogan All sides of the equation, get it done. Just get it done already we're sick of it now they're gonna go through another 10 months of deliberation, same conversation... all he's losing is his per diem yeah well and the parties and all that but... And the parties and the chauffeurs Yeah, we got to change the jingle too. To Wuhan flu and won't work with that There is there's a little bit to talk about Very interesting clip okay well I just want to set it up What's the name of the clips so I could cue it? It's the coronavirus in Japan as an odd tidbit We'll get that in a second

2:11:20 This is an interesting double whammy, I realized for China. Even though we've talked about it you brought it up on the show and I have a news alert set up for every single day there's stories about the swine virus which we call pig Ebola in China This has devastated Chinese pork supplies and this is a much bigger deal than... they eat a lot of pork. Their pork is pork-centric? It's a pork country, yes! And to be hit with... that's part of the reason why Trump was able to do Part 1 of the trade deal is they're buying a lot of stuff from us because

2:12:08 make it anymore. A lot of it due to this pig Ebola, as we call it so to have this Wuhan flu on top of it is really an economic double whammy and I think that Even Trump is now starting to say well, you know because countries are shutting down air travel. We don't want people coming in There's a lot of fear-mongering that this has a written within it doubles every 6.2 days is Is one of the modeling but of course its modeling just like climate change so why would I believe it now? and

2:12:46 it is a little bit more severe than other types of flu. But yeah, I mean if you put it in perspective from a health standpoint people die from the flu all the time. More die from your domestic flu and people died from getting the flu shot even. So flu...it's the pneumonia that gets you and more people will die from pneumonia from causes here in the United States, I believe than from the Wuhan flu. But the economics of it shutting down travel, shutting down shipping...I think that part of this is going to be much more important than anything else and then we find

2:13:27 Some new little wrinkles which are good for the conspiracy side of my brain, such as the researcher Chinese researcher who was working in the level 4 bio lab in Canada and was removed in July. Good morning Dr. Zhang Guochu has been recognized by the Governor General's Innovation Awards This work can't be done without teamwork She and the team at the National Microbiology Lab have been praised for developing an Ebola vaccine. But just over a week ago, Chu, her husband and her students from China were evicted from Canada's only level 4 lab their security access revoked staff at the lab was told last Monday that couple is on leave and not to communicate with them

2:14:12 We're getting this from sources who work at the lab but who don't want to be identified for fears they'll be punished. They say this is coming just months after IT specialists entered Chu's office after hours and replaced her computer, and her superiors stopped authorizing work trips to China Manitoba RCMP confirmed it was called in by the Public Health Agency of Canada on May 24th. A spokesperson says the agency is investigating a policy breach calling it an administrative matter and its taking steps to resolve it expeditiously We can assure Canadians that there is no risk to the public and that the work of the NML continues in support of the health and safety of all Canadians. And again this report was July 2019 we've had a number of researchers now exposed as working

2:15:04 with separate contracts and research deals on the side, not disclosed with China. All connected to Wuhan University of Technology I think and their biomedical lab there it's a lot of possibility for stuff to have Slipped out been I mean you weaponize there's a million different ways. You can look at it We really don't know other than the World Health Organization now comes out and says yeah, we were wrong It is kind of a pandemic in China We're just gonna kind of relabel what we said? We were trying to calm me down And yeah, it's a problem and I think it isn't pandemic levels in China So what happens now Is all or not all all a matter of economics as far as I can see. It's just

2:15:52 You know, we have this just-in-time supply chain for a lot of our companies in the United States which really means you order it. It kind of like gets stamped out boom boom boom oh there's an order This was a technique that was... Yeah, you might be able to explain it better than I can This was a technique that I understand it as first popularized by Hewlett Packard and, I think in the late 80s or in the 90s. And it was picked up by most of the high-tech companies and the best of the best of the best and the greatest of the great is Tim Cook at Apple. He was considered the superstar... Yeah! That's right that was his thing right? Super bean counter with the JIT

2:16:38 He was the guy who could do this better than anyone and he knew how to do it. And it's tricky, it's not like easy to do you have that right everything has to be in place everything has to be and you essentially set up I would say it's like a physical version of microservices architecture something I'd write by harp on And so everything is like ready, it's ready to go. And so when things come in the everything comes in at exactly the right time. It's like a virtual Ford Motor Company plant where all these if you ever been into a car manufacturing or work there and a car manufacturing operations, there's things coming in as a door coming down while

2:17:16 the boot handles are coming over here and things are coming over here. And all these things are coming together well, this is done on a worldwide basis. It's like the same thing only virtualized into the real world. So all manufacturing is just in time just like the door is just in time for you're standing there where the door comes and you hook it to their car end of the whole everything operates like that. And to do it at a massive scale which is why Apple's the world's biggest company technically in terms And why it produces so much is because they can do this better than anybody. People think about the innovation, but the innovation is their manufacturing. Tim Cook knows how to do this he knows how to swap out supply chains and I think

2:18:00 Well, you can't make it work unless you can swap things out. Yeah and from different places... It's like the single point of failure, you can have that so I'm sure everything is fixed for that with that in mind but It's a lot of stuff that coming out of China. Yeah, and it's not just technology there is a lot of stuff so this just-in-time can be interrupted I think that's real now will we be crying because we can't get an iPhone no but it has follow on effects you know all kinds of stuff that its domino effect one my buddies works at a chip manufacturing company

2:18:38 he has Asians, he has as in Indians Pakistani and Chinese and I think Korean. And-and he oversees all this stuff." And I said... and I actually questioned him is it any of the just in time stuff? Is that affecting your supply chain? He said dude no but the people Everyone stays clear of the Chinese in the building. They don't want to be near them, won't sit near them during lunch Of course the Chinese have all of the last face masks so there's animosity over that That's just one company I'm sure there is lots of stuff like that going on

2:19:16 So while the media, the M5M plays up we're all gonna die maybe who knows that once again show Joe Johnson and Johnson working on a vaccine. Oh here's this company Novovax which is basically a penny stock which is listed on Nasdaq should it should be over-the-counter you know that shoots up nine bucks there's a lot of shenanigans going on It's the same thing that happens with any virus but this time economic aspects I think will be different What's your Japan clip? Well, this is interesting because it introduces an element that nobody in the US or any place else has picked up on and it's a frightening little element. But you're not going to hear it in our media because that would freak people out but let's play this clip you'll hear it in there In Japan the health ministry says three evacuees have tested positive for the virus a day after returning to Tokyo

2:20:10 206 passengers were on their government chartered flight on Wednesday. All were sent to medical institutions to undergo tests The ministry says two of the infected patients had no symptoms It's the first time in Japan, the virus has been detected in patients without symptoms. The Prime Minister also says two of the evacuees didn't give their consent for the health check. The procedure is not legally binding, unfortunately they did not agree to be tested we could not force them as it is also a human rights issue Abe said he's confident all evacuees on subsequent flights will give their consent. Now a second plane carrying 210 Japanese nationals from the virus-hit city touched down at Haneda Airport on Thursday morning 13 passengers on that flight are exhibiting symptoms and have been sent to a special hospital for infectious diseases Huh, you rang the bell I heard it your interpretation

2:21:10 No symptoms. Yeah, so all these airports with all these scanners looking for temperatures and all the rest of it's nonsense is useless yeah apparently you can carry the virus and be contagious for two weeks before you can before symptoms develop and have real-world examples And so you're gonna end up with a situation that's just completely could go out of control Assuming this thing is as virulent as they'd like us to believe, it may or may not be. I mean in China we had our letter almost worth re-reading the letter from our guy in China talking about the sanitation habits of the locals coughing all over each other and there are cramped borders, and it's like a lot different than you know the wide open spaces of the West. Yes but take a good look at what a socialist slash communist government does for the people in times like this

2:22:04 They cram them together, you've got pop-up hospitals which are basically containers that lock from the outside. I think... That's genius by the way! Oh man a whole bunch of people died in that container strap it up boys just lock it down and the crane comes over throw him into in the river drops them in a ditch So I but, um, I'm very...I'm all over the economic...the economics of it. That's what I find interesting to watch because that could trigger a slowdown which is needed anyway but Well, that's what I'm looking for. But it could be... We'll be following this probably much closer than the M5M at least not closer in terms of like hours of coverage but- We're not gonna sit here and scare you like you're gonna die we're gonna analyze what's really out there Yeah Right? Right! Just like Henry.

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2:33:03 This is Sir McQueen of Blighttown. Praise the sun! This is Brian Michael, creator of such jingles as... And now it's time for 3x3 and Ask Adam, yeah! Wow, this sounds exactly like the jingle actually. Love you guys! Black nights are easy and I just want to tell you don't worry be happy This is Sir Brad Ficount of Jersey Shore in Delaware Valley In the morning my name is Jay This is Swae Miller

2:33:39 Hey, this is super tizer and Epstein didn't kill himself. Ola Adam and John from Coopersburg. Jason from Chats Ford. This is Cuba from Wayne PA. I want to say thank you to John's chair keep up the great work! This is Kaya. I don't know why I'm here or who these people are but Thank you Hey your chair got a shout out that's pretty good nice about time now we have a report from the Alexandria, Virginia meetup and of course we always like to play

2:34:20 Spot the spook. Everybody wants to spot the spook. Yes, we're quite confident that there's always at least one spook to keep an eye on things in every single meetup This is more or less into the spooks backyard Tell me if you can hear the spook in this MeetUp report Hey Adam and John this is Sir William at the Alexandria Virginia MeetUp ITM What do you think?

2:35:05 I think Alan. This is Phil from Annapolis, thank you for your courage. Oh he's in the morning? I think it's Phil from Annapolis! I think Phil let's listen to the rest. This is Sir Chris Knott Wilson from sexy South Arlington happy to be here this is a dude named Daniel your humble no agenda meetups admin here and from Region 3 Hi this is Bob from Annapolis one of the other subs in the water glad to be here in the morning Nice I think it was this guy Although honestly here's this one As Phil from Annapolis, thank you for your courage in the morning. Yeah, he sounds like a spook although DC girl Maybe the true spook that could be it makes more sense Yeah, yeah, I think she maybe kind of a twang to her voice a little bit like I don't know these idiots are but

2:35:59 DC girl, if she truly is the spook. She's a good one! She is on no agenda social...she's very active in the community. Very active in the community. She's probably highly competent Let's have a look at the overview for the coming week I didn't want to play the whole long one. That's too long is that the short one? That's crazy The other thing is DC girl never gives her name No, of course not why would you wait it go? Why don't these other guys, you know, why would you This Friday Colorado Springs local 719 6 o'clock at Phantom Canyon Brewing upstairs Andrew Jones organizing for you also on Friday the local MCO Central Florida meetup number four that'll be at Stanford brewing company Brandon E Organizing for you, then we go to Saturday Charleston South Carolina. There's six-week cycle every six weeks They do a meet up it will be at Moes crosstown same place as in August

2:36:54 Dame Jennifer Buchanan, well known as the art director and the evil genius behind animated No Agenda organizing that for you. Saturday Boston the no agenda meet up at 2 30 in the afternoon red 33 red 33 Castle Island brewing in Northwood Massachusetts nuts Make sure you are there if you're in the neighborhood. Southwestern Ontario, Candanavia meet up also on Saturday at 6 o'clock Enjoy a burger rebellion and beer from Refined Fool Trevor Collette will be hosting Then next Thursday Fairfield Connecticut 5 o'clock New York City commuters local kitchens close to the close to the fair field train station Dame Jamie

2:37:31 Another fantastic, she is always emailing me great ideas and links. She'll be organizing also next Thursday No Agenda Toon Man Tour the Ramallah stop this is the Palestine territories Well standard time actually. So he's touring in the Middle East, he'll be at Barley's in Ramallah and that's an Israel And who am I talking about? Jesse Coy Nelson has done many many fantastic end of show mixes for us He did not have any takers in Jordan He was in Amman Jordan could not find anyone for the meetup if you are anywhere

2:38:08 in near Ramallah Israel, please. We have a lot of Israeli listeners I don't know how far Ramallah is from Tel Aviv? The whole country is walking distance Good point! What am I thinking so he needs someone to show up for this because he's the Middle East tour people Then next Friday, Toronto No Agenda Six Week Cycle Meetup. That will be at WVRST Union Station Toronto Ontario Canada Bishop organizing that for you Also next Friday Southern Shillinozian meet up

2:38:55 Ah, Shillanoisean meetup. I got it. Southern Illinois and that'll be at six o'clock. Meet at the St. Nicholas Brewery and then brand new entry for next Friday. Loo's Top of the South New Zealand Piss Up Meet in Nelson, New Zealand at the local watering hole The Spring and the Fern Tahunaui. I have no idea what's going on! Your mate Tom is apparently organizing that And then there's also a Seattle meetup next Friday on the 7th Meet at the Lookout Bar & Grill Patrick organizing for you All of the details for this are at NoAgendaMeetups.com where you can find meet-ups near you If there isn't one

2:39:36 Make one, get one going. People love this and the Keeper and I will be in Delray Beach for the meetup on February 21st that's your Meetups NoAgendaMeetUps.com a great initiative Love seeing this it's good for your soul Alright well i've got three clips left that I want to run One of them is a public service so might want to get that out of the way first It has just got a sad story which I'm thinking as I watch these people This is nothing that would happen to any no agenda listener, but let's go on with the mainly because we mock this situation. But CBS decided to do it kind of as a public service to run this story about the social security scam. The government today sounded the alarm about what it calls the most reported scam in America, Social Security fraud. There has been 115 thousand complaints in the last three months alone and as Anna Warner reports, the thieves are sophisticated and scary

2:39:36 Make one, get one going. People love this and the Keeper and I will be in Delray Beach for the meetup on February 21st that's your Meetups NoAgendaMeetUps.com a great initiative Love seeing this it's good for your soul Alright well i've got three clips left that I want to run One of them is a public service so might want to get that out of the way first It has just got a sad story which I'm thinking as I watch these people This is nothing that would happen to any no agenda listener, but let's go on with the mainly because we mock this situation. But CBS decided to do it kind of as a public service to run this story about the social security scam. The government today sounded the alarm about what it calls the most reported scam in America, Social Security fraud. There has been 115 thousand complaints in the last three months alone and as Anna Warner reports, the thieves are sophisticated and scary

2:40:37 I was very afraid. Michelle and Kyle Anderson say the elaborate scam began with a phone call like this one. Your social has been found some suspicious for committing fraudulent activities. When she called back they said there has been some fraud on your account, and we feel like you're suspect in a crime The man told her her social security number had been used by a drug cartel to set up multiple fraudulent bank accounts. That these people were very dangerous, that they were watching me...that I needed to do what I was told and not tell anyone To protect the family's assets he said she needed to wire all of the money in the couples' bank accounts to an offshore account so she did So i drove to the credit union

2:41:23 and I transferred all of our money into our checking. The couple lost $150,000 What? How did they come up with that money in the first place People who have money in the bank? Wow. Money we had worked our entire lives to save. Anderson testified at the Senate hearing today in Washington about the scam that has cost America's seniors $38 billion dollars Americans trust our agency and our employees, and we cannot allow swindlers to erode that trust Now Kyle Anderson wants to warn others Maybe this happened for a purpose maybe it happened us so that we could help others

2:42:03 How dumb are you? I'm sorry. Just... That's, uh- I mean really?! You could see the couple this is like a couple of uh I'd say they're in their 60s, late 60's. The woman looks like a Berkeley... well you know kind of a woman who never washes her hair and is kinda frazzled the kinda women that I run into at Berkeley Bowl all the time that are always going through the changing of purse. Excuse me? The guy looks a little like a retired businessman who does not seem too pleased with his wife. Ah! And i'm reminded of the movie uh it was done by

2:42:40 Brooks, the comic not Mel Brooks but the other one who made it living in America or something where they were a couple goes to Las Vegas and could they decide to retire? They jump in a mobile home. They go to Las Vegas and within 10 minutes she's lost all the money that the family has at the gambling table is that National Lampoon's vacation knows how to vacation. It's no Albert Brooks, Albert Brooks. Yeah, I know you're talking And it's just that, and that's what it looked like. It looked like she was so stupid that she you know, oh okay I won't tell anybody I'm going to send all the money to you.

2:43:18 And of course what happens, I've got because we've gone through these and we had a few of them. I taped, I try to tape them if i can. I haven't had any recently that were taping yeah uh... I had some guy cuss me out once so that was pretty funny but they grill you I guess how much money do have? You know well I've got $150,000 in this bank account oh that's what we need coincidentally! So you have to be really dumb to fall for this but Over billions and billions of dollars, this has happened. Over 100 thousand complaints to... Where is Elizabeth Warren? Right. With the consumer finance- Where's our FBI when it comes to this?! Where is the Consumer Financial Protection Board? Where is that bureau or whatever it is? Yeah!

2:44:00 Yeah, it hasn't this is just story isn't it John? It's obvious. These are the same people who respond to the call-to-action chip in oh okay Chip in ship in so I'll chip you yeah No agenda producers are not this gullible no no you have to be uh I'm convinced they're both Democrats Let me interject and you have two more clips. You want to play there is new news new news from our gals That's true girls who I haven't been following them? I've dropped the ball well when I realized that the Angelic number 1212 was on deck, I decided check out the angelic initiative this is our two ladies that's true They actually they don't say that's true then they have a new one

2:44:56 But there is a very new one. Well, yeah you'll hear it instead of saying that's true they say other things We have a show on Sunday That will be o2o to 2020 and that apparently according to what they are receiving from the higher dimension There's something about that date that's going on and we should be aware of it This planet is in such crisis times that its time to stop thinking about whether or not people will be making fun of us Yeah, that's right. You think about what more can we do? And I've got a deadline approaching the February 2nd 2020 which was a deadline given to us maybe three years ago maybe

2:45:43 And what are we supposed to have accomplished? Let's really give it that final push. So intersecting that awareness with the clue about the request to thin the astral dimensions... That's right! I do notice this interesting pattern, that has been happening these last maybe week or ten days where our entire dimension seems flipping upside down and when we ask to be shown what's going on, we keep finding this room that has an open window. And there is a stack of papers on the desk. In a much higher dimension Thank you! In a much much much much much higher dimension

2:46:25 Much larger and much higher, and there's a paper that seems to represent this entire dimension. And it keeps getting blown off the desk and onto the floor and it tends to blow upside down as if the ink on the page causes the ink side to fall down. That's right How it tends to feel to the souls is as if they're heavy-headed dolls and that the bobblehead keeps Going down and that little feet are sticking up. That's right So it's a similar sensation of being upside down Something going on upside down

2:47:08 I think that's a lot. I was going to give you another clip of the day for that, but you cut it short! No no no... That's right! You know Super Bowl is this Sunday? NO Agenda show is this Sunday? It's a crazy date and they feel that both in Europe and the US is the same as a penalty. Yes, another good point so there's they sound a little worried about the universe flipping upside down Well, they've been you know like there's jokes in there. I can't come up with it right now It's long into the show But I'm sure more than a few things have flipped upside down for those two women I'd stay away from the Super Bowl and tell you that I wouldn't go if I had tickets I wouldn't go now after hearing that I take them serious gonna go

2:47:59 Really? Sure. Yeah, sure! I was planning on going and broadcasting from the you know right after I get to go over to Miami I could broadcast the do The No Agenda show and then go right to the game yeah in a chauffeured limo. Yeah if you're working for Gimlet Now, I'd be using a Neumann mic. Yeah right! Alright take us home Johnny boy Okay got two clips you can choose what you want me to do now one of them is gonna annoy you Oh let's do that one Well wait let me explain why it's going to annoy so he can get you warmed up and everyone can get ready because its gonna annoy everybody okay Because normally when we do clips we take the pauses out We like to make it cause it tightens them up yeah but when your dealing with George Soros

2:48:47 And the fact that he is kind of I would say that he's borderline over-the-hill and we were you know, He's a big still important guy important dude. He still has a lot of thoughts on things. He's a Major personality yes but listening to him go on and on about how Facebook is going to make sure that Trump gets reelected This is his theory. It actually needs all the pauses and the umps and the gumps, and the noises he makes so you can really get to full impact of this guy and how he's borderline lost it. Okay I want to try it but Facebook...I can't do it Last year you talked about Facebook and the platforms a lot To sort of summarize those questions Do you think that company is doing a better job today?

2:49:40 Not at all. I think Facebook played an important role in getting Trump elected in 2016 and then really afraid that he will do the same thing or for 2020 because there is nothing really to stop him. There is a regulation that exempts social platforms for having any liability for publishing

2:50:28 falsehoods deliberately, deliberate falsehoods by candidates for election. There's nothing to stop them and I think there is a kind of informal mutual assistance operation or agreement developing between Trump and Facebook.

2:51:07 and Facebook will work to re-elect Trump, and Trump will protect Facebook. Train wreck of the day! That's great! Wow, that's basically Elizabeth Warrens message only it took him a minute and half to get it out. Minute 52! To say nothing but I thought it was necessary to play this so we get the state of the mind of George Soros at Davos. Fantastic. Alright now the last clip... Oh I'm sorry I didn't know you want do another one

2:51:57 Okay, well we could end it with that's fine but you at least want to keep up with the drug tunnel because this is This is I'm trying. I love this guy's my favorite reporter does very accurate Wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute Is it Jeff? It's totally Jeff We break for Jeff on this show Oops I hit the wrong Jeff. The tunnel runs three-quarters of a mile and is the longest ever discovered by US officials it started in Mexico and ran under this part of the newly fortified border into the U.S.. We've seen an increase in drug seizures... Deputy Chief Aaron Heike says smugglers move everything through the tunnels It's going to be people, it's going to be narcotics, um, the potential for weapons and ammunition

2:52:45 Ten miles away is another key smuggling route for Mexican drug cartels. Bordering Tijuana, San Ysidro California is the busiest port of entry in North America In those buildings on the Mexican side our sources tell us that sometimes the cartel's use spotters to keep track of how the drugs are flowing from Mexico into the US Drug seizures at U.S borders are way up over the past five years Cocaine seizures have doubled Meth seizures are up nearly 170% in that same time and fentanyl seizures are up a staggering 3,500%. Good. Business is good! Yeah... Well maybe this is Trump's tunnel? We always figured he was gonna build the wall so that we could control the drugs in a better manner. Well it might work out It's a nice tunnel almost a mile long That's crazy Great looking tunnel too looks like it was done by a pro

2:53:46 And your prose of deconstruction will return in just several days from now on Sunday, the 2nd of February 2020. It's gonna be a bonanza I tell you...a big bonanza! Coming up on NoAgendaStream.com Nick The Rats celebrating four years in broadcast excellence From the sewer so catch that if you're wise if you're loitering on the stream End of show mixes we got a lot. I'll forget to all them and Ned Jeffrey Leo Lapuque We got Roy Connor and his keeper who helped out there Tom Starkweather John Benson, and of course? We will return right here

2:54:31 And I will be coming to you from FEMA Region Number 6 in the governmental maps, Opportunity Zone 33 here in the capital of the drone star state Austin Texas. In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain...I am John C. Dvorak We return on Sunday we'll see ya then remember Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself and adios mofos!!! ...and such bombshell bombshell pop up a bombshell everything's a bombshell the john bolton absolute bombshell

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2:56:36 You're holding up good. Yeah, you're holding up real good! The biggest underwriter of IPOs in the US will no longer do business with a company lacking a director who is either a woman or diverse. The board must have at least one person who's white male or straight On the board of directors Of a Fortune 500 company We needed underwriters So I called Minsax They asked if we had a token

2:57:39 Your black woman or it. Your board needs more diversity to get a loan from me and so I was firing from the board by Goldman Sachs I think I'll probably vote for Bernie.

2:58:46 It's funny how I only briefly mentioned on my podcast that your character is true At least that's the impression that i got from spending just a couple hours with you And afterwards, I uploaded the conversation to my channel on YouTube Then I must have spoiled it all by saying something stupid like I'd vote for you I appreciate a bit more fire and spice there's an audience behind us

2:59:39 in the Senate. And that is John Bolton's politicization of the intelligence he got on Cuba and on other issues, why would we want someone with that lack of credibility? I can't understand. Clearly that is what John Bolton represents. He would tell in a captivating way that the public would watch the most pernicious part of the President's scheme and his love for conspiracy theories. Partly him playing to their bass and playing to their audience, you know. The credulous boomer rube demo that... Cram it a good look, look wait. Conspiracy theories. Cram it a good look, look wait. I think at the end of day it all boils down to this. That was a good one! I needed that.

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