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00:00 Shut that baby up! Crossing the T's and dropping the fry! I am broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 here at the frontier of Austin, Texas. Capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where i'm waiting for it to become beachfront property. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill In The Morning! You shouldn't be reading your email before the show

00:38 Oh, you saw that note? Of course I did. As always someone will come in and tell you that you're wrong! You're wrong Dvorak! And then I realized suddenly this morning...I realized you're the guy from the cartoon Okay Yeah, you're the guy from that cartoon announcing The Strippers What guy you haven't seen the latest from oh no? I have not seen this. Oh my goodness the whole Club 33 Ravens Sequence is there it's not the one where they burn the place down No, no, no, no its shit when I that's so what I'd like to see well Yeah

01:18 There's a lot more to that one, but you're really good. You are the star of the show Good yeah and we have over 1,000 subscribers now on the YouTube's apparently that's good She she has a thousand subscriber well that's true yeah, but apparently that's really good Apparently that's when the algos kick in and then you get viral go one yeah And then you get virality, and you're all over there. Then you have to go to elga then you have to go to 200 thousand subscribers to get no I think it was and then The big bill and this and then you get deplatformed That's how it goes well that could be but by them we should be on Netflix

02:05 And as a general rule now every single time I tweet out or retweet one of those videos of No Agenda Animated Studios, I always do hashtag Netflix. Amazon's got money too and so does apparently now we have a new...I don't know what to call him but they took over the CEO of HBO and moved him over to Apple Yeah is he gonna run the Apple TV stuff? I guess so, you know. They have a bunch of shows they advertise them on television They have a whole slew of shows as one with Jennifer Aniston it was at one of the Apple presentations there in a Original programming that nobody gets to watch I Actually would almost get Apple TV just to watch a series with Jennifer Aniston III like her

02:56 Yeah, you've said this before in the show. Even though you're in denial about the fact that she's a next-door neighbor and refuses to see you. She lives in Austin, you know? Refuses to see me... Uh huh yeah exactly Yes, well that would be good and we could totally snow those guys with it. But don't use these words! Oh I'm sorry yeah like they listen like Eddie Q is listening. Well there's that... No no but i have eddie's number I'll call him. Eddie got some hot shit for you man we got the algos are triggered on the YouTubes You know they've got a hundred billion dollars to throw away They might as well and their putting in there's two or three shows doing about

03:38 I don't know how many shows maybe five. There's a bunch of shows there and it's several nobody get to see any of them Yeah, I think it's more than five and then a couple movies aren't they doing some feature-length stuff as well? I didn't hear that but why not yeah? Well we'll see We've got to come up with a budget, that's the problem. We gotta justify a budget because really you know the budget is almost zero it's three of us with Jen making them. Yeah we're the writers for all practical purposes Yes and showrunners and producers yeah let's see...the writers It's not very good position on any show You can get fired Almost all TV shows are writer-ed All writers

04:24 Anyway, so what else is going on? Yeah. I'm going over that. So I had the funny line the other day I'm going over to, I'm over at Whole Foods and I'm looking across at the next person over there, the next checker. And I said...and I actually thought this was true. I said that's Salman Rushdie! Who is what? Who is checking or packing the bags? No it was just a customer leaving and she looks just like him. I said yeah but then again everybody in Berkeley looks like Salman Rushdie Got a big laugh, and then I said... And the men look even worse! And you got run out of town. You sexist misogynist douche. Or not? No. They don't care. They're actually pretty lackadaisical about anything. So they've got some humor still left in Berkeley that's good to know She could laugh she laughed and laughed and laughed and then one of her piercings fell out of her mouth Now that's the punchline

05:30 So the jet lag is still kind of with me. It's taking a little bit longer... You weren't gone that long! Yeah, but usually I can-I think the trip home was what really screwed me up just because it took much longer than it should have so I didn't really get into the right rhythm. Of course yesterday all the buildup, oh boy this is gonna be it, The Big Show is coming to TV! Oh please, this is the worst! Wooo yeah we're going all the way This is it, this is the impeachment hearing And it was so hard for me to stay awake, certainly the first hour or two hours. And I'm kind of dozing off because of the jet lag but I keep getting awakened by tweets you can only guess what the tweets were from yesterday. What?

06:21 Here we go. I'm gonna read them to you! Oh great Read the transcript! The Dems voted... Wait, just lost it now where was it? That was- Read the transcript that Dems voted to continue their impeachment sham I need your input complete the impeachment poll now All uppercase Our all new 2020 calendars have arrived my amazing wife Melania handpicked each photo get one before they're gone Yes. Oh, so they put it back into high gear? Oh yeah! Two times match solicitations. Listen to this... oh yeah this is a good one 2x match missing Adam! 2X Match by who?! I don't know the gods. Who's the person doing this matching? Missing President Trump wants a list of all donors who step up during this impeachment hoax hurry donate in the next hour

07:15 President Trump colon Adam, I noticed you didn't step up during the fake impeachment hearings. 3x match unlocked just for you for one hour donate now! 3x match just for me. It's unlocked Just for you just for me, so I'm reading this to the keeper last night She says did you donate? No This is the most insulting thing in the world that wouldn't donate to anyone with this message This is so horrible But man they are pushing a three X match doing this is all Camp fundraising for them for the Republicans this and it's all Jared Kushner

07:57 That's part of the reason. You think it's Kushner behind the fundraising? No, we talked about this! This is WinRed! That's the guys... Oh yes right, that's Kushners operation. The company that does all this now. That's Kushners operation. There's dynamite! Cause you know most people are gonna go oh jeez, yeah he's good, put money in there 3x match! 3X MATCH! OH NO Now before... So in other words, if I give a dollar, I've given three dollars. That's great! Sure. So before we get into the... By the way, before we go away from that... Okay The Democrats use this too and I've also seen it elsewhere. And i've seen on some public radio, and I say well we have an unknown donor that's gonna match everything unless you don't get to... if we get to 10 000 they'll double it but its like they never say who.. there is a scam going on It must be! Who's? And it says 3X Match maybe some guy whose name is

08:53 3x it's gonna hand you a match. I don't know what this is now, I find it highly sketchy It should be investigated and they use think it should be I think there's some things yeah And they use bitly it should be because it sounds illegal to me they use bitly links which I don't like either So, of course I did watch this thing. Sadly... But it was crap weather! It's freezing here! Well actually got a little warmer today but we've had 29 degrees overnight. This is bad. Yikes! Yes, yikes indeed. That's Port Angeles weather. Um so some of the lead up to this was and and i really have reactions in some things I saw you have a couple of clips don't know what they are but will get to those now and I can always count on you for bringing it

09:42 But first I wanted to bring anything and a bit. I couldn't get good clips dad you brought what you could? I knew you would bring something. No, they'd bring something bill Moyers was on the Brian saw this guy's an idiot He's on the Bryan seltzer water show Really cuz he was on democracy now And his big thing is PBS should shut down its programming and put that debate this the impeachment hearings on 24-7 well He kind of contradicts that statement in his conversation with the Seltzer kid. And, of course, that's a media show so talking about the media and I found it what i found most interesting is that they are discussing amongst themselves and I presume he considers himself a journalist yeah? A journalist? A newsman? What does he

10:34 He's been a broadcast news guy mainly for but a journalist for 50 years. He's really an old-timer So they're sitting there explaining lefties are very very progressive left winger he's always been yeah And what they're sitting there discussing is how it's their responsibility To well, it goes a little bit beyond informing surprise surprise not just reporting but And as we know, the pod's honest truth. It happens on podcasts all the time it usually gets edited out of the mainstream things in this case it was left in as the truth always wants to come out. On the eve of another impeachment inquiry, hearings this week do you fear for the country? For the first time in my long life and I was born in the depression lived through World War II have been a part of politics and government for all these years now yes for the first time because I... You know a society democracy can die of too many lies And we're getting close to that terminal moment unless we reverse

11:39 the obsession with lies that are being fed around the country. So will people care this week? Will democracy hold up through this process? Some people will always care and we have to remember that we need to serve those people who will get up in the morning and watch the hearings, who'll come home at night and watch the hearings because they really want to be confused They wanna understand, they wanna cut through Cut through the confusion Yeah, the lies Uh-huh. They want they won't be confused. They really want to be confused. They want they want to understand the lies so we have to be concerned with them then We have to think about how do we reach the people who don't care? How do you reach them? How do we let them know about the lies? They wanna be confused Yes, it's exactly right

12:35 Just want to be confused. Confusing statements such as Eric Swalwell, who we haven't heard from... Oh, that's my clip! No this is a clip before the impeachment. Oh no, Swalwell is a douche. It looks like one too, that what interesting me. We have discussed many times that ambassadors are appointees, the political appointees but they're typically high-end donors and bundlers. And you know that's... Well that's only in the choice spots. Yeah oh in the choice spot sure. The pros are professional foreign service people there and places like Ethiopia Right well would you well then Ukraine I guess is that that's not a choice spot is it? That's a bad spot to be perhaps. Depends if you like vodka or not So Swalwell

13:29 has a different view of these appointees. How important is a quid pro quo period in order for you to make your case in an article of impeachment? It's an abusive power to remove an ambassador for political reasons because they don't like what they're doing. They're appointed for political reasons, but okay! What an idiot! Period. It's a gross abuse of power if you ask a political ally like the Ukrainians to investigate your opponent It's a gross, extreme abuse of power if you leverage your White House meeting. Which may not seem like much to us as Americans but to other countries that is the most important thing again. It is an extraordinary abuse of power if you remove an ambassador in the way... Now I see he tried to say unlawfully but even he can't justify saying that.

14:13 unlawful, or if you remove an ambassador the way the president did ask for investigations leverage a White House meeting and 391 million dollars in taxpayer dollars that's what we're investigating. Republicans say maybe that's all bad but it's not impeachable well let's not America either if we allow that to happen okay just not America oh who cares Yes, this has been around. I don't know what's wrong with this guy he really doesn't even understand basic civics no He's a congressman who thinks that what these ambassadors are like Supreme Court justices

14:53 Yeah, well this is the way I saw this yesterday with the two witnesses who were chosen an ambassador a Temporary ambassador acting ambassador and The deputy assistant to the this is like if you're the deputy assistant to to the... what the hell was his title now, Kent? It's a State Department. Yeah but he is like Deputy Assistant! What is deputy assistant if you get coffee at that level or what exactly is the deputy of the assistant? No no you're the guy who gets to assign who gets the coffee. Ah so you are above most all right So these are career... Yes and this guy by the way, the Ukrainian guy is a career-er yeah and that it's not a plumb

15:43 Ambassadorship by any means you said that earlier. You suggested it the big donors they get they get England France Vatican's choice The Vatican's like, choice. And then there is Japan. Japan is a good one. Italy would be good. Russia's probably one that you might want to but this tends to be a spook Singapore. Singapore would be nice. Singapore'd be good I say Hong Kong it'll be fun. I take Australia China's probably a plum job but you probably have to be CIA again Well China as you know is asshole Japan for sure

16:19 Alright, take us into the actual meeting John. Well you know I was going to play a shift clip where he comes on and starts off... Oh first of all can I make an observation? Is this just that i'm only seeing it now but Schiff's chair which is the chairman chair bigger than all the rest. Oh yeah, it's a big giant chair. Is that always that way for all of the chair people? I believe so but I could be wrong because this was really noticeable and thinking on it

16:55 Had to consider the fact that maybe this isn't always the case because why would I notice this so much? I noticed the same thing. What do you mean? It's really big how come I haven't seen this before huge monster chair Significantly bigger So he had his opening they went on forever and house important all this is Then Nunes comes on And he does his opening, which is a little more reasonable. And I thought and Nunes this was long too but i thought the beginning of the Nunes opening or I call it the opening of the opening

17:35 I thought was, I thought it really summarized what's going on. I think he is right! In a July open hearing of this committee following publication of the Mueller report The Democrats engaged in a last ditch effort to convince the American people that President Trump is a Russian agent That hearing was the pitiful finale of a three-year long operation by the Democrats, the corrupt media and partisan bureaucrats to overturn the results of the 2016 election. After the spectacular implosion of their Russia hoax on July 24th in which they spent years denouncing any Republican who ever shook hands with a Russian on July 25

18:19 They turned on a dime and now claim the real malfeasance is Republicans' dealings with Ukraine. In the blink of an eye, we're asked to simply forget about Democrats on this committee falsely claiming they had more than circumstantial evidence of collusion between President Trump and Russians We should forget about them reading fabrications of Trump-Russia collusion from The Steele Dossier into the Congressional Record We should also forget about them trying to obtain nude pictures of Trump from Russian pranksters who pretended to be Ukrainian officials. That was the radio DJs, right? Who called up Schiff. Yeah that was a great bit! We should forget about them leaking a false story to CNN while he was still testifying to our committee claiming that Donald Trump Jr. Was colluding with WikiLeaks

19:16 And forget about countless other deceptions, large and small that make them the last people on earth with the credibility to hurl more preposterous accusations at their political opponents. And yet now here we are supposed to take these people face value when they trot out a new batch of allegations But anyone familiar with the Democrats scorched earth war against President Trump would not be surprised to see all the typical signs that this is a carefully orchestrated media smear campaign. Yeah, well I don't know if you have that but at a certain point he said you're now in

19:57 The low-rent sequel to the Mueller movie. And now you're the leading roles in this piece of crap... I mean, it was really disappointing! I was expecting at least some fireworks but they had poorly cast actors there was no script or at least there was a script but not with a plot that made any sense It was just the tension arc was all wrong. There was nothing, the only thing I liked was having professional lawyers whose name is counsel. You know a little name sign there, I'm just counsel and that guy for the Republicans he looked like a horrible asshole

20:42 That's shark man. I like that those guys did at least that some courtroom questioning that felt a little good You know pompadum pompa and then you could even see the guy getting a little flustered as he's yeah, it was still No none of it was it was a very bad television show? Yeah, and they put it on anything besides C-SPAN 3 Yeah, that was just a waste. That was telling When they put it on C-SPAN 3 you know that even when C-SPAN's not even making it prime time You know you've got to dud so they so here's the newness and his unanswered questions I thought this was kind of poignant It kind of made some sense it was part of his opening and I want to play it

21:28 We should not hold any hearings at all until we get answers to three crucial questions the Democrats are determined to avoid asking. Number one, who killed Jeff Epstein? First what is the full extent of the Democrats prior coordination with the whistleblower and who else did the whistleblower coordinate this effort with second What is the full extent of Ukraine's election meddling against the Trump campaign And third, why did Rees-Mohir Hunter Biden and what did he do for them? And did his position affect any US government actions under the Obama administration. These questions will remain outstanding because Republicans were denied the right to call witnesses that know these answers.

22:16 No, no one cares. So the only good clip I have because I couldn't find a list and I tried...I must've gotten by me because I probably conked out more than once trying to listen to this thing Yeah was the squid pro quo that one of them apparently the ambassador said there's no squid pro quo. Where is it? If anyone ever finds that I will take in and you know, you don't have that clip. I don't have any. I thought you had a good find. I tried and try because I heard it And then you tweeted like oh The only thing is this squid broke or not use the newsletter. This is squid. Oh my god Good he's got the squid pro quo clip. I never said again. Had it at all Yeah

22:56 What kind of... what if you hear something like this, do you- If you hear this you must clip? I didn't hear it. I only heard of it Oh, you didn't hear IT! Oh, I'm sorry okay So when I went to go find IT, I fell asleep probably most of the time, and then I couldn't hear it so I never got it. So if anybody has it we'll run it later but I do have this somebody found this little gem and you had to hear it you hear it in here's a little faux pas some stupidity here is Swalwell grilling he grills everybody by you're never Trumper! You are never Trumper! You are never Trumper! It was like Oprah and your'e never Trump and your'e never Trumper

23:39 Just about an hour before the two of you sat down to testify today, the president tweeted multiple times about this hearing and he put in all caps never Trumpers. Mr Kent are you a never Trumper? I am a career non-professional who serves whatever president is duly elected and carries out the foreign policies of that president. I am an android, i'm a robot, I will do as I am told. Elected and carries out the foreign policies of that President in the United States And I've done that for 27 years For three Republican presidents and two Democrat Presidents Ambassador Taylor are you a never trumper? No sir Well what was wrong with that

24:18 He says instead of saying I'm a career non-partisan. Oh, I didn't even hear that! He says i'm a career nonprofessional Just about an hour before the two of you sat down to testify today The president tweeted multiple times about this hearing and he put in all caps never trumpers Mr Kent are you a never trumper? I am a career non-professional who serves whatever President is duly elected I do have the ISO. Oh great, cats and an ISO! I am a career non-professional... Yeah now end of show boom done nailed it. Well I got other ISOs to consider. Really? Well we'll wait when they're appropriate i'd love to hear them but so far its top of the list Yes well as the only one Ambassador yeah I'm a career non professional what is the what

25:09 Ambassador Taylor's... That was like a robotic speech you nailed and that's why he made that gaffe, he just plowed right through it. Yeah And y'know, he's obviously never Trump because he wouldn't deny it! I'm giving you a borderline for that actually. It's deserved. Borderline! Put up a good game! Deserved, deserved. That's one of our producers actually. Oh well come on You and I don't do any work we just sit here look at email or watch TV everybody knows it Everybody else does all the work. Ambassador Taylor slipped up another and this may be a theme today, The Truth Wants to Come Out Once Again. My question ambassador Taylor the president conditioning security assistance on an investigation into his political opponent prior to this administration is something we would do all the time? No sir Why not We condition assistance on issues that will

26:06 improve our foreign policy, serve our foreign policy, use ensure that taxpayers money is well spent, those are the... and those conditions are either coming from the Congress or from policy decisions stemming from authority that Congress has given us to make sure that the taxpayer's money is well spent. Or that the receiving company country takes the actions in our national interest. You know that what happening? you know they're sending money to companies Yeah, the receiving company. And you know that it's just... That's exactly what is going on. How does that get in your brain unless that's what's going on? Yeah and then this one was I thought this was interesting because it's a legal thing as you know I'm taking the bar next month so I'm always interested in these types of legal opinions This is Representative Quigley

27:05 quickly, rewind quickly for a second. Now did you understand any of this about hearsay being used and sometimes being much more powerful than direct evidence?

27:45 Well, I heard what he said and what he was saying is because these two witnesses were both basing everything on hearsay. And later it turns out at least according to one source I saw on Twitter so it's not...I haven't confirmed this but Apparently the ambassador later revealed that most of his information came from The New York Times. So another clip that I was going to get, but figured you had it because you tweeted! I'm unfollowing you... I'm blocking, you know. I'm gonna block you! No, but when you actually commented on him like oh he's got that clip too...I am making an ass out of myself. When you assume? Yes, I'm making an ass out of myself. You're making an ass out of me and you. I agree. And I have learned my lesson

28:39 So that which is a possibility that he just got all the stuff from The New York Times because what else you know? He said this in the hearing. He said I read it in The New York Times. So, I think what you got was I pointed out to this as an old spook trick Yes is where you plant something in a newspaper, usually overseas but you can do it in the United States now. You plant some bogus story into New York Times with sources according to sources... People with knowledge of the situation And you put that in there, this guy reads the New York Times. He reads the New York Times they grill him about it at the hearing he says yeah well the way I heard it Trump was out to get this guy and then he says he read it in The New York Times! He never says he read it in The New York Times, it's just testimony

29:26 Once in a while, yeah he did once in awhile. But most of his testimony if it all came from the New York Times He's not gonna say well according to the New York Times according to the New York Times. He just gonna say what he thinks Yes, but and then The New York Times picks that up and says this confirmed Yeah Which is the old? Exactly then they say see confirmed he said it he said what but didn't forget to mention that he read it never knew in their newspaper Yeah, it's an old trick and it works well and agenda people fall for it. And nobody's the bit Nobody is the wiser so It came up in the conversation that there was this is all secondhand information that he has a note He never heard this from Trump. You never heard this from anybody at all No, you read it someplace? And so then this guy comes out to clip you have comes out and starts defending hearsay But he makes some mistake of saying here say is better. Yes

30:19 It's better. Much better, much better! What do you know? Are you up there? Do you have a chair, a big chair?" No. Stupid citizen, be quiet. The current Democratic nominee for presidential race Joseph Biden was asked to provide some reaction we're not sure well did he watch did he not watch let's hear what and these are Actual journalists who are querying, I think if you listen to and that thing it's only two women that i can hear. They sound like they really feel sad for Joe You'll hear it. Today... Have you got a quick reaction Mr Bynum? Did you watch today? I didn't get to see anything but I heard there was pretty devastating from the president How so? You saw and know how so. Okay

31:16 So the question, did you uh what did you think? Well I didn't see it or heard it was pretty devastating. How so well you watched it you know why and then they just go oh yeah that's it they just melt away! They sound like all poor guys insane yes where is he senile yeah like wow it's their old senile uncle because clearly he's full of crap clearly he has no idea he just said oh that's pretty devastating Which everyone knows it wasn't devastating whatever you took away from it. Well, there was a dimension B split here because I was reading back and forth follow a number of people they headed the DNC and is a bunch of these Democrats and you read their tweets as like

31:59 Oh, the Dresden toast! He was ruined by this guy's testimony. Okay well then you're reading what Joe is reading then I understand his response. Yeah Joe is reading the same thing that I'm reading and so that's the impression he gave me. It was devastating But at least you said well I read some tweets it was devastating Joe doesn't even go that far he says like hey you watched didn't ya? Stupid journalist And then I caught this nightmare two weeks to be over and then I caught this on one America news of all places with the The presenter that I'm not particularly a fan of yeah, the blonde Blondie kind of like the low-rent Tommy Lahren. That's that's the way I look at it Just talking as a TV executive people okay? and she has some dude on and he's done a Freedom of Information Act request

32:50 for anything the State Department might have regarding Hunter Biden. And it turns out, oh why yes! There is something that the State Department has It's a request Alright Josh talk to me about this We can show this email on the screen by the way These are emails obtained using FOIA The Freedom of Information Act that show lobbyists for Burisma wanting to get in contact with the Obama administration using Hunter Biden's name. Isn't this exactly what the Bidens have denied happened? The short answer to that, Liz is yes I mean, FOIA is a hell of a drug. FOIA litigation in the federal courts is oftentimes crazy just because of what it ends up divulging and this is no different than that. The timeline here is pretty crazy. It looks like one month before Joe Biden pressured Ukraine to fire this prosecutor who was looking into Burisma—literally one month before that—Burisma was in communication with U.S. State Department trying to get a meeting and they were

33:45 expressly name dropping Hunter Biden as a reason to get that meeting. Not only is everything that you just said true, not only did they namedrop Hunter Biden to try to get a meeting with the Obama administration State Department, they expressly said they wanted to talk about corruption investigations into Burisma exactly what Joe Biden ended up doing for them in that video that we've all seen a hundred times where he brags about a quid pro quo getting you know the Ukrainian president to fire the prosecutor who was investigating Burisma, the company on which his son sat on aboard. That's what this email expressed that the lobbyist said that's what they wanted to talk about So I'll explain what she said without the yelling but

34:30 It's really- it hurts my heart. Why am I yelling? That has nothing to do with how she looks, it's just the yelling! So there's a presentation skills or not Right and she's not she should back off. Yeah, just tone it down 80% you'd be fine yeah, and blink Blink one couple some shots of that jambo stuff Jambo stuff will do it to her yeah, but you know so this of this FOIA request shows that Burisma did indeed say hey we want to we want a meeting with Regarding this this prosecutor that you guys want to You know that we think we should get rid of and now, you know by the way hunter Biden's on our board We have other prominent board members and that's I believe in the timeline

35:27 A day or two before Joe did the famous hey, you know remove that prosecutor That seems at least to me. It seems like that's something someone could jump on but no it's on one American news That's worse than a podcast. That's nothing yeah Video podcast let's face it yeah so I don't know these are just little data points. I'm sure there's Everybody has some opinion about everything, but it's just boring. It's a bad show and a waste of time Not that we're unhappy doing it because that is what we do so you don't have to But anyhow there was really nothing in this just it was Nudnik senseless Just no story No not these things are all show anyway Get me bring Norman Lear in if you have to bring somebody into produce this for you get a rundown

36:22 Stupid. Oh! Oh no, oh no, there she is! Oh yes it's time for the swoop once again and this is one clip that I was not taking any chances you wouldn't have it This was Emma Barnett on BBC who had a sit-down half hour interview with Hillary and Chelsea The Gutsy Women book was being promoted And I know you read the headline did you hear the interview? I did not. Oh, you will love it! That brings me nicely on as a gutsy woman Hillary do you feel you have unfinished business in politics? Well i do as an activist advocate citizen no no i know i know exactly what what you meant but i can only answer with what i mean which is i'm going to keep speaking out there are those who say go away don't say anything and that's just not gonna happen she said hi to us did you hear

37:20 I'm gonna keep speaking out. You know, there are those who say go away don't say anything and that's just not going to happen. Going to the woods with your dog? Yeah exactly it never come out that is not going to happen look I feel a sense of responsibility Now you really we this I had listened to it three times To hear what's going on because You just listen to it and you hear what she's saying, and it's exciting what she's saying. But when you really get down to when she uses past tense in present tense, it gets very interesting. Not going to happen look I feel a sense of responsibility partly because my name was on the ballot. I got more votes but ended up losing to the current incumbent in The White House who I think is really undermining our democracy in very fundamental ways And I want to retire him

38:07 Did you say something yeah, I want you to stop sure. I want to just ask a question When when Hillary lost didn't she come out and say she's gonna do everything She can't help this president succeed Do we have videotape well? I think there's probably an old clip of it but hmm You remember that no me. I should remember it. No. I really don't remember oh yeah Okay, we'll go on. If I knew how to find the clip, I would. No don't worry about it this is impossible too many Hillary Clinton... And by the way she's not talking about the president she's talking about the current incumbent in The White House because God forbid you say President! The White House who i think is really undermining our democracy and very fundamental ways

38:53 And I want to retire him. I want to see him retired, so I'm going to be helping our side try and put together the strongest possible campaign which will be difficult. Are you going to run again? No not no... That is a hundred percent! So in a few days i'm gonna open my newspaper Well you know I never say never anything that's... You've only got a few days left! Yeah it's way past time but.. Now okay let's analyze this because I have heard several times She was ready for the question, so she was ready to say no. But then when when Emma Barnett starts questioning a little further it spills out like diarrhea. Well no, no, blah blah blah... That is 100% so in a few days I'm not gonna open my newspaper well you know I never say never to anything that's up there I know it's way past time but she knows its way past time so what what Emma said they're very quietly in the background was you know you kind of have to register in a couple of states

39:55 Hillary's well aware. That is 100%. So in a few days I'm not going to open my newspaper... Well, you know, I never say never to anything! Even if it's just a few days left? No, it's way past time but look, I think all the time about what kind of president I would have been. Alright now listen to the tense change from I would have been and to the present I look, I think all the time about what kind of president I would have been and what I would have done differently and what I think it would've meant to our country in the world. So of course I think about it. I think about it all the time being able to do that. And look whoever wins next time is... Being able to do that she goes would've, would've, would've, would've. I think about it all the time be not

40:37 if I were able, not what it would be like if I had been able...had been able. No! ABLE! ...going to have a Britney and what I think it would have meant to our country in the world so of course I think about it all the time being you know being able to do that and look whoever wins next time is- I think about it all the time being able to do that she's running! Being able to do that and look whoever wins next time have a big task trying to fix everything that's been broken. How would you feel if in the last 48 hours or so while she is on this trip in the UK, your mum decides... Now listen to how Chelsea expertly I might add puts Emma Barnett in her place like shut up

41:26 This is my mom. I do what she wants, I am her protector." To throw her hat back in, Chelsea? Well i'm always in her corner Emma so... So shut up! You know whatever she decides to do on any given day I'm here to support and love her but you know my most important role in life now is as a mother Wow expert, expert deflection She's very good Chelsea She's much better than I thought she was At this is not subtle what she said to this Emma. Well, I'm always gonna support my mom Emma Emma She's running John This woman is running many many people many many people want her to run all kinds of pressure Many people love it. Oh that's fantastic It's fantastic and then she added one little

42:20 I think that the little gotcha that you nailed in this was when Hilary was familiar with the deadlines to the point where she knew she'd missed a number of them. Well, she's only missed a couple But she's not going to take Iowa and New Hampshire anyway. Even Bloomberg, who is running or claims to be he's back in the race He says he doesn't want to run in New Hampshire What's the point? You have to run against a couple of new Englanders up there They're gonna whoever wins New Hampshire It doesn't matter, you don't need to win New Hampshire. There's not that many votes involved. Hillary knows like no other how to manipulate the superdelegates and it's what she did with Bressa, she screwed Bernie! She was screwing Bernie and was very successful... I mean it's a sawed-off term but brokered convention comes to mind even that could happen

43:21 The problem that you have is the way, I don't think... You know the number of people who've come up with this thesis. That this is gonna go to the convention it's gonna be deadlocked between two or three people that's why they're not getting rid of Bernie they're gonna keep him in there because he'll get a lot of votes will get a lot of wins and then Warren will get a lot of votes and she'll get a lot of wins and those are the two that are going to get most of the votes and wins And they have to make the assumption there's not gonna be, that one of them. I think it's probably a good assumption because I could kind of make it too. That one is not gonna run away with it. But they're also risking the possibility that one of them is going to run away with it and one of them could be Bernie. And the Democrats do not want Bernie, and then they don't actually want Warren either. So I don't know what this idea... This is pretty risky if you're gonna go for a brokered convention

44:12 But you could bring Hillary in at the last minute. It's gonna look fishy Yeah, I think we need one more person has to run it some she's gonna have to throw her hat in the ring And she's gonna have to run. I think South Carolina She can win mm-hmm. She would any of the southern states Easily if she gets in and time to do that did she get easy when California? Hmm So she'd get California, New York all the southern states probably pick up Washington State and Oregon. She could easily win the whole thing or at least get it to the point where if there was a brokered convention it would go to her easily but it wouldn't look like she cheated and got in at the last minute which is what lot of these theorists are starting to say oh you know what? She's gonna wait till the end, the very end then she's gonna jump in that no that's not gonna work

45:01 Well, how about this? Yes. It's her hat in the ring and she has to do it before South Carolina at least and I don't know what the deadline is for South Carolina. I'm gonna have to look it up How about this devolving? It's coming up. How about this Deval Patrick who is now apparently going to jump into the race? Yeah default Patricks an interesting character because I spotted him years ago got the packaging Roy. I'll tell you he's got a Black president. I thought this years ago before he fell out of the scene and then Cory Booker kind of stole his fire. Can you imagine being Deval Patrick and having Cory Booker steal your fire? Yeah, Cory Booker took over where Deval Patrick left off. Devall Patrick is a tremendously erudite well-spoken racist

45:48 If he's erudite and well-spoken, if he was a white guy I'd say the same thing. You don't understand racism John you know everything. I can't say anything complimentary about this guy but the fact is that he is extremely appealing Yes! I always thought he was more appealing than Obama ever was Well, he's the real deal. He actually runs something! Yeah he has run a government for the governor of Massachusetts but why they pushed him off over the side or what I don't know...I don't get it. I don't think that he can do it

46:28 They're not going to put another black, they're not going to run another black male. They'd have to work real hard. Without running a female because they get their rules! And Joe Biden fits the ticket exactly. Well Joe Biden... Allow me to take a small sidestep since we came just we stumbled upon racist comments And I called racism because it is. And I have proof that what you said, he's erudite and well-spoken is just because he's a black man is racist and I have proof. But if I said that he was a white guy wouldn't be racist? Correct! Because Joe Biden is not erudite no and Joe Biden is not well spoken does that make him a black man?

47:14 On Water's World, which I'd never watched but this came up on the MoFaQ show. On Water's World he had a sociologist... A PhD! So a professor of sociology, I guess? Sociologist? Professor of sociology And this is a little bit back It was about the math being racist Which of course is nuts. And so this is not so much about the math being racist, but about the definition of racism and it came out in such a beautiful way that I need to share it. Tell me why math is racist doctor? Yes So you... It's funny on November 6 2016 I was at a conference on statistics and I raised my hand and I was like are you telling me statistics are racist or

48:09 And that was, what? Almost three years ago. I was really confused when i asked the question and spent year's reading about many different things Have you Jesse read Native Son which I gave you last time we met? Um...I read it in high school but have not reread since the last time you gave to me but What does that have to do with is math racist So, the critical race theory is a framework for understanding the world that helps us understand that this entire country is racist. We have a white supremacist caste racial caste system in the United States. Wait wait wait can you just stop for one second? Are you saying all white people are racist?

48:57 Yeah, I am too. Sometimes it happens we were socialized right the process of socialization and learning about social norms So you're racist? You're a racist Occasionally it happens. I usually apologize when I realize that How are you a racist what do you think makes you superior Chelsea, that question doesn't make sense. Well isn't racism the belief that one race is inherently superior than another race and then you discriminate against other races? That is a piece of racism but you gave the definition that's really old and language evolves over time. Race and white supremacy

49:40 What are white race and white supremacy today? Yeah, okay. They are structures that affect us all so people do things that are racist all the time myself included Because we don't realize that's happening Okay Do you understand John you understand how I can easily say that you said something very? Every show and you can I could say the same thing of course But this is this is the thinking and she just said it right there That's an old definition Sadly, Merriam-Webster's... Webster. No one has updated the definition because it has to include the element of feeling superior over another race and this is just nuts but there you have it It's the definite language changes Shut up

50:32 I don't know what the long-term point of it is, that you want to make sure that all whites are racists. Yes! That is the point. No, let me restate that. Alright. I'm not sure what the point is... ...to make all whites racist? What is the point? Is there free money?! Control. Control. control over what you can say and even when you can then it goes right back to your old thesis which is this is really a free speech issue of course it is yeah well that's why we get letters condemning us for even suggesting that the global warming nonsense is overstated in as part of a control mechanism I was not going to do this now but I think I should take us right I believe

51:25 I have solved vocal fry. I know what... I didn't know you had vocal fry! No, I didn't say it cured it. I said I've solved the mystery of vocal fry why it is done and why in particular young women do it but before we do that let's take a moment and talk about the T-glottalization I don't know how you make this jump, by the way. Well because it's also about women young women in particular but also young people who are changing speech patterns vocal fry is a speech pattern dropping teas is a speech pattern we were just told by this woman that we're old and our thinking when it comes to the words We use where everything we say is racist This is something being pushed on us and so does that seem like really such a big jump?

52:22 Yes, it does but go on. Okay well for the T glottalization It is more of what you just heard language changes shut up And I went to the expert on this when you want to know something's going on with language and speech You go to grammar girl a study in The Journal American Speech examining the dialect of Vermonters noticed that some traditional pronunciations were disappearing cow for cow For example is declining but that the dropping T's is increasing. The researchers spotted it in pronunciations like mountain for mountain and Vermont for Vermont. Have you heard someone say Vermont? No, but that sounds horrible! In another study conducted in the western United States, researchers found that young female speakers were more likely to use glottal stops than other groups they studied

53:17 The researchers suggested their findings may indicate that a broader change in pronunciation is afoot. They noticed that, quote, the literature on sociolinguistic change is replete with studies in which young women are on the cutting edge of language change." Ah-ha! Unquote And that's no surprise to people who borrowed phrases like as if and way harsh from movies like Clueless and Legally Blonde. Now this is interesting because what she just said is that people pick that up from a movie And I would say, I would wager that as Earth isn't really used anymore. So it was not a change. It was a temporary fad like what's up also coming from media? So I call bullshit there on Grammar Girl but OK in answer to the biggest question of all, hold on why you what? I didn't understand what you said she said that young women

54:18 Okay, well here's what she said. Go back is replete with studies in which young women are on the cutting edge of language change Young women are on the cutting edge of language change and then instead of well look What developed in this with this particular group of women know she's now going to say that they heard it on a movie unquote And that's no surprise to people who borrowed phrases like as if and way harsh from movies like clueless and legally blonde Well hold on yeah Those movies are written usually by Hollywood writers and they're in Hollywood, and they're not dreaming as if...

54:55 They're not the writers that wrote the movie that uses as if one of the movies was a dozen of them Didn't they got it from the street? Yes, sure. They did what and is to women driving there do women were driving the writing but it went away Okay My point is it didn't stick people still don't don't this that was that's not a fundamental change A lot of stuff stuck sticks such as Well, I think as if it's a lot of it. Okay doesn't stick permanently but some of this because what you're gonna do because the examples I'm coming up with in my head or stuff that I know is kind of come and gone But but the Valley girls speak in general

55:35 People don't do that anymore. It's now persifloged. There are still little hints of it, OK? In answer to the biggest question of all why are people dropping their T's we have a disappointing answer nobody really knows standard pronunciation. Wait a minute you play us this clip and then it goes there. Keep listening! We have a disappointing answer nobody really knows standard pronunciation across a region, even a country changes gradually and is affected by countless untold causes. In the 400 years since English settlers first came to North America what we call a British accent morphed into an American accent and that accent in turn birthed countless others from the distinct dialects we hear in New York City

56:24 and Dallas to the ones we hear in New Orleans and Minneapolis. T-glottalization can sound grating or slangy to some listeners today, but someday it may be the way all of us speak! And by that time no doubt there will yet another new pronunciation tick that's driving everyone into distraction. Okay, this does lead into this outstanding deconstruction. I don't think this guy even knew what he was doing. Producer Joe sent me to this. This is a YouTuber from the UK's name is screen name Wings of Pegasus and he's deconstructing Patsy Cline's voice

57:02 Which has a I didn't even really think about it, but there is vocal fry in her voice and he's going to explain well actually I'd left out a lot but To create vocal fry you know you're actually Blowing using very little air very little diet push from your diaphragm To get that you sound like a frog this way frogs make that sound right, but your son and she was able to go crazy You know she would go in and out of that And he says Well, I'm gonna play the clip that that vocal fry is part of what made her not just unique but so incredibly successful and in his deconstruction. I think he reveals the reason why women in particularly young women are using this voice technique The other thing that gives her such a great quality to her voice Is that vocal fry? And if you don't know what I'm talking about it's

58:03 the way that the vocal cords come together with minimal air in a really relaxed state. If I'm going to demonstrate it, now i'm talking with my vocal cords coming together! I'm getting a very definite connection and that's why I'm producing this noise and if I was to hold on a particular note it would always be there because my vocal cords are connected. You might find some people who talk like this, they go well um I just talk like this because it's the most relaxed way of talking and Patsy Cline when she sings she has that control of her vocal cords so that she's just beyond vocal fry but then can just end her lines with that

58:50 And to explain this further, when babies cry. Great example because babies don't know that they're using their voice the most efficient way possible because it's automatic it's ingrained it's just the way it is used when you're a baby you can't think about diaphragmatic support and chest voice and head voice and falsetto so when a baby cries it always has vocal fry in there so you get a wah-wah-wah and it's that ah at the end that is the vocal fry. So having that control of your voice means

59:33 You can connect to an audience because there is a cry in your voice. And as humans, we are hot-wired to respond to a baby's cry because of evolution that everything about us is ensuring the next generation so if a baby's crying there's something wrong you have to make it right! So if you can get that quality in your singing voice You are going to connect at such a deep level, almost at a level that is human. That is intrinsic within all of us and we don't even know that it's there but when we hear it we know that sound I know its a stretch

1:00:15 But when I heard this, my thinking immediately went to well yeah if you do this particularly to a woman and maybe as a woman it triggers something in a very deep reptilian level of maybe. And there's more connection more engagement it sounds important. You know Britney Spears is almost nothing but vocal fry in her singing Sure Yeah and she's very popular Yeah, no kidding. And you know maybe add a little data point about women not having children when they're young so maybe there's even some heightened awareness in the just in their entire it's in their DNA and you know to certain ages and they hear The Frye and they're just drawn to it and I'm not saying people are doing it on purpose but

1:01:11 the response that they're getting is much more leaning forward, deeper engagement particularly from women when women are doing this. Now, I don't have the clip again. Today's show is a epic fail insofar as my clips because I'm not talking about clips that didn't clip. So we'll have it on the next show for sure because I made sure to put it aside. There's a woman reading her own biography and this bit floating around and she... Her whole voice is vocal fry. It's worse. It's beyond Jill

1:01:50 I would really on shows not much that goes beyond Jill, but okay It's it. I thought the same thing one of our producers sent it to me And I said no nothings beyond Jill but it was beyond Jill hmm including the long and They go on forever hold obviously I read The New York Times like all day long mainly on my iPad app God So this woman is doing the same thing and I've just retweeted it. This is a week or so ago I retweeted as saying yeah, this is terrible This would be on Jill or something like along those lines that a whole bunch of hate came my way Oh, yeah for followers just people. I don't know where they're did they come out of woodworks? Yeah They're all writers No

1:02:46 female, mostly young adult YA as it's called in the business. Mostly YA writers, Young Adult Fiction writers and they were all women and they were all women defending the vocal fry girl. And I'm thinking this thing... One of them was to comment was, I don't see why you're listening coming on our voices not commenting on our content which is not true if you think McCloughan-esque because commenting on everything is part of the message. There's a message and there's a message, and the medium is a message. And the voice is a message, everything's a message so it's all part of the communications system. So you can do this, it's legal to criticize somebody's voice I mean if they sound like Elmer Fudd and they're reading Shakespeare? It's part of the message! Of course yes

1:03:41 So I have to, now I have to go get this clip of this woman. Well what do you think is the basic thesis? Well the basic thesis is outstanding and it would make nothing but sense to me that women would start to pick this because they would get if you start to develop say just like the glottal stop and all the rest of it but let's say that you're a woman in your talking vocal fry and other women because of the baby trigger And they don't have babies, but they still get triggered by this because it's primal. They get triggered and they come closer and they want to listen to you more This is why I think I got so much flack for condemning this vocal fry chick In fact it wasn't her message at all that was attractive to these women It was the fact that this woman has this crying going on These are women who are crying They're crying! We're making fun of them By the way Yes

1:04:39 These are, I don't want to say pathetic but these are women who are literally crying. They're pleading they're crying as they speak and that's where the vocal fry is and they're asking for help and nobody's giving it to them instead we're here like a couple of douchebags calling out us as idiots. And the way they receive that is an attack against motherhood! That's why it's so vicious And even though they don't know it, when you say hey man that fry... They're like you? So they're saying you can't do this. You know who are you old man okay boomer all that but then what they're really saying what they're saying in their heart is you don't care about babies! You hate babies and that's what's triggering yes! Yes! That's what's triggering it! It's true! Once again ladies and gentlemen this your NOAGENDER show

1:05:35 It's how the system works, our producers send us something we can deconstruct it. We break it down and we have solved vocal fry! And now to put it to use for yourself because you can totally get an audience to listen to you...and I think I have to do more crying maybe that would be a....maybe thats where the uptalk comes in Well, we construct up talking this is some similar way now I want to say something about the vocal fry. So you got some woman has given a lot of vocal fry instead of Ridiculing her like we tend to do with pretty much everything else go all you poor thing Well, we now have that in your heart it's no longer saying yours You're so you must be so sad and miserable

1:06:23 It's no longer vocal fry, it's vocal cry. Vocal cry? Vocal crying now we understand and I think if we pay attention We might learn in particular how other women but men too of course I mean I respond to the sound of a baby Yeah Shut that baby up! That's actually not the way I respond, but some people do. Yes? If you've had enough of them and they're still living in your house... Yeah! I understand these. I understand that response. And since I mentioned it, I think we need to have an OK Boomer segment on this show

1:07:04 We need a jingle first. I'm not going to do this segment until we have the, okay Boomer! Okay Boomer it's okay with you it's okay with me Okay Boomer! Okay Boomer It's OK Boomer That won't be it but... No that no that but it will be the next NO Agenda animated show that's for sure so and now I have a question because a boomer the cutoff is 1964 Yeah, does that mean if you're born in 1964 second half of 1964 am I still a boomer or is the cutoff at the December 31st 63?

1:07:49 Well, I think it would have to be based on the end of World War II. Whatever date that was that would be the cutoff date because boomers came right... Boomers technically are at the end of World War II is when boomers began. Now that's the beginning but what's the cutoff? Yeah well this would be your fiscal year So at the end of World War II, whatever that date is somebody can look it up. Well here's what I have. Boomers born 1946 to 1964 between 54 and 72 years old. Yeah. You kind of irked that you're like a late boomer? No! I just want to know who my people are John

1:08:35 Well, I'm here people. That's why we get along you barely made the cut man! I'm like second string boomer. I just want to make sure that i can feel spoken to when people say okay boomer this actually happens to me now Okay, boomer. I'm like in what in what universe did you wake up and think that that would insult me? But okay, okay boomer I think okay Boomer is it and I like it because I do identify as a second-string boomer I Identify with things changing that I don't like Change it from second string this is a bad attitude It's not second string its second way backbencher Let's call him a backbench or boomer

1:09:23 So I'm on the back bench, but then i hear what they're doing with certain things and the boomer in me wants to protest the change To The ABC song which I don't know if there's some derivative of common core or What? Yes so The ABC song As the older Boomer Mm-hmm The OG Boomer Boomer OG I don't know this. Well, you know the song of course you do. A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z Now i know my ABC's next time wont you sing with me? A B C D E F G H I J K L M N

1:10:12 O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z I want to shoot myself when i hear this. That's terrible! This is not good for the universe, we're out of balance with this Where did that come from? Disney Well, they're trying to... I don't want to use it. Well, I'm going to say it! They're trying to fuck with us. They are trying to upset the forces of the universe man. They are trying to screw us over there's something up with this and you can do that or maybe Mandela Why didn't he just change the order? Maybe John Mandela effect maybe was always this way we just don't realize it Isn't that crazy where did you get that

1:11:04 Well, someone sent it to me and I was on the YouTubes and like and I clipped it. You sure they didn't produce this themselves just to screw with the show? No no no no no That'd be going too far It's reprogramming of some sorts Yes when you say Disney is effing with us And yeah I'm way too polite to say the F word Um...I think your right! I'm not sure what it is but This is almost like Three more days till Halloween, Silver Shamrock. You know it's like they're gonna trigger these kids and zombies are gonna go out and kill everybody I don't know this...I do not like the change And okay Boomer! I don't like this song the way they've done it. I find it jarring. And what's the point? What's the point is always the point. Well I know the point because they felt LMNOP

1:11:59 was not pronounced correctly or it went too fast and therefore the letters L M N O P were getting gypped. It wasn't fair to them somehow. Well that's a stretch I don't know! LMNOP were getting gypped. They watched too much Sesame Street. It's, it's a bad deal this whole thing is bad Wow With that though, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who just put the C in vocal cry John C. DeVore!

1:12:40 In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground. Subs in the water! And all the dames and knights out there... In the morning to the trolls in our troll room extraordinaire which you can join yourself at noagendastream.com every single day Darren O is doing that in the pre-stream which is another example every single day there's live programming at no agendastream.com and I just realized This thing is, you know people do listen to it. We need to have a listing of what shows are on because a lot of people hear something like oh shit What show was that I want to find out what show that was so we have to come up with some kind of after-the-fact program guide or something. Grid! Oh God another grid in my life But it's a great place to hang out You can listen to the live stream of any of our shows that are live but of course we have replays and just

1:13:31 a nice cornucopia of content and you can find that at noagendastream.com Hello Trolls! Stream it straight to your car That's right stream it through bluetooth through your speakers even to your hearing aids if you wish And in the morning, to the artiste who brought us the artwork for episode 1189 and this was I believe... Was that Data? Was it Data who brought this to us? No doesn't sound right No, there's something... There is a wrong credit here on the page which I'm very sad about now. Um... Yeah? No, I am sad about that because I want everyone to be credited properly. Now the artist was... It was Darren! It was Darren O. I knew it. Darren O'Neill. Yeah it was a refresh in my browser and I fixed it. Uh, now we had a lot to choose from and there were some very good pieces and what uh.. And what we chose was John Bolton or as the kids say BOLTON

1:14:30 and a black bar with the letters Anonymous over his eyes, so it was very obvious that it was him of course with that mustache. There was another one which I believe ComicsterBlogger did which was just the mustache which was esoteric and kind of cool... ...and I liked the way it played but I think we both decided unanimously that it would be a good idea to support our handler Steve Pachanek with his mission to prove that John Bolton is the author known as anonymous of the book and of the op-ed in The New York Times.

1:15:12 And so we decided we'd be good players in the game. Isn't that what happened? Yep, and that's what we do! I wish that some of these agencies would send us more money Yeah because we're doing the Lord's work here We're doing great work here people get on it Thank you very much Darino and all our artists who participate in our value for value network by helping us out in this manner, by creating artwork that we can use not just for the album art which is a great win of course but also just having it displayed on noagendashop.com people love going through that and checking all the different crazy pieces out some gets on mugs and shirts uh and hoodies at no agendashop.com and you can do whatever you want with it

1:15:53 It's another great resource and we have 10 times the amount of images that we have shows, which kind of gives you an idea how many people compete for this. And you can contribute! If you like it...it's tough though because people do it during the live stream We choose right after show is over noagendaartgenerator.com And we have a number of... I want to read in the checks and stuff that came in. There was a note that came, and I should've read it during your little exposition on glottal stops because this is a letter that came condemning you for not talking about what you just talked about but the timing was a little, I think maybe with the completely... Let me read this! Hi there John

1:16:42 Written in an envelope and stuffed in an envelope by the way. I got it also somebody sent a couple of Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself bumper stickers who is Jay put on her Volkswagen? Oh, I want one yeah, but you do You gonna put out a bumper yeah on Tina's Merriam-Webster dictionary for the definition of glottal stop Wikipedia also has an entry for it. The missing T sound in important is not being dropped, it's being replaced by another consonant for which there was no letter in English the glottal stop which we just discussed. Surprising or not that the putative linguistic expert opining on the clip was unfamiliar with the term and adopted your dropping-the-T description he added nothing to the conversation

1:17:42 Apparently nobody likes this guy. No, and he has not come back into the email. I think he's probably given up on the show. Yeah, I'm sorry because... Among other entries that popped up during my recent search was a term that Adam may like, glottalization! I emailed him about the glottal stop phenomenon at least a year ago. Oh, yeah! I'm a dick But he's a busy feller and I must have missed it entirely And then he says the creeping globalism has got to stop Isn't it glottalization? You can't say glottalization It's gotta be glottalization if you wanted to be modern

1:18:25 I don't think so. It's just not me, now i'm gonna start reading it again we get to the donations...I'm sorry I've delayed it but uh there is a name mentioned in the first line of this that the guy wants to be anonymous and I don't understand this either Is that him or is that somebody else? What am I supposed to do here? What I what I think happened but I'm not sure so we cannot do it I believe Anonymous who comes in from China Guangdong Uh... Guangzhou. Well, it says Guangzhou, Guangdong. Oh he's in Guangdong yeah he's in the state of Guangdong But I like how you yell at me when I do that Makes me feel loved and wanted It makes possible... I'm sorry. It's okay. You hit me for crying! It's possible that he wanted to make someone a knight oh I see because there's Can you make her? Don't mention the name because I don't know

1:19:29 And Eric didn't mark it, so and it's not on the list. So I don't believe that this is...I don't think we should risk it particularly if someone's in China! It's not a good idea to risk But we're happy to correct. Yeah, we don't want them in trouble because they follow everything and the Chinese probably do listen to the show Well, they're taking their foreign policy advice from us Hello Okay We'll put it in abeyance but will add the total to today's totals Anonymous from Guangzhou in Guangdong gave us $111.11 And that was a celebration of the veterans

1:20:09 And we really appreciate the support and please do send us an email so that we can understand if we have anything or anyone else. Yeah, I've sent us an email at johnatdewarwick.org Or adamatcurry.com.com.com.org If Curiousity's followed his donation which is very appreciated it was followed by another anonymous donation of $420.42 Uh, ITM in honor of my 42nd trip around the flaming fireball in the sky today 11 13 uh day 1113 I'm donating 420.42 towards Darren O'Neill's knighthood." Wow! How nice is that? This donation should take care of it

1:20:53 And then he's got some, uh... He's got some accounting. Well how come Darren is not on the list? What is our back office doing?! I don't know they're not putting people on the list but it's possible this is another one that's screwy. Darren can report back with his name-age and such keep on keeping on Darren! Hey Darren! My only request for some health karma to all that need it thank you for your courage and such Darin O'Neal, I think Darin is still hanging out because he... Well if he's in their chat room then we can give us a name and put him on the list. Well Darino just went wow! I'm really high now he went Wow so he's in there in the troll room. Darin if you want to be knighted today we can do it because this does complete you know this anonymous who you must know

1:21:45 Because this anonymous person knows that you have previously donated and that this amount should bring you to knighthood. I just need to know what your night name will be, and we can add you to the... Or we can do it Sunday if you want? Either way." He fell over. I don't think he can reply now. Well, he'll respond in a second. Let me get the help. You know what, I have to stop right here. A second Zephyr just went by Oh, the economy is booming. No, I'm really... The first Zephyr went by on time and now it's 1030 my time and another day-I think this is the coastal that is like days late or something. Let me see what they stock market for. It was nine cars. Mm hmm. They look like the Zephyr. They are identical looking

1:22:36 That's something is amiss. Well, maybe well let me see what do we have I should get my Amtrak? Well scheduler the doubt the Dow was up 92. I'm telling you this is an economic indicator Yes the more cars the better and now you cannot deny that that's oh wait a minute I just refreshed mmm No, the Dow is now down 35. Okay so you're I think you're You've got to figure out how this works it's in there somewhere Yeah alright yeah So when Darrell comes back we'll well he hasn't come back He probably hung up he went with the bandits in Australia Nah nah he's bowled over I'm gonna do the karma here health karma with a goat twist for Darren You've got... Karma He's gonna have to name himself Dame something because its a dame drive

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1:29:44 Well, we have some homeless news. Oh we do? I have homeless news? What kind of homeless news do you have? Well, I got two clips here one is better than the other but let's play the first one this is Homeless Report in LA Just steps away from the Hollywood Walk Of Fame a horrifying random attack A homeless man dumped bucket of stuff on your head A bucket of his diarrhea! I didn't want it to be my mouth but it was running down my eyes For over a year, the NBC4i team has been tracking crimes where the suspects are homeless. Tonight we have learned those incidents are skyrocketing. Investigative reporter Joel Grover reports on the growing threat linked to untreated mental illness and drug addiction on LA's streets of shame

1:30:30 Keep your eye on the woman walking out of this apartment building a homeless man approaches and suddenly smacks her in the head There are now thousands of crimes a year like this one In which the suspects are homeless and in many cases suffering from mental illness or substance abuse Do you have that whole clip of the woman explained? She went down crying man. Oh This is the next clip is guys another report. It's slightly different and it's got the same woman bitching about being It's horrible. Some guy took a well play clip to it will even tassel was walking to her car near Hollywood's Walk of Fame when according to police and court records a transient with schizophrenia and psychotic disorders dumped feces all over her a bucket of his diarrhea, it was liquid hot liquid I

1:31:26 Paramedics rushed her to the hospital and she now needs to be tested for infectious diseases every three months. For over a year the I team has been reporting on crimes where the suspects are homeless like this guy arrested for setting fire to chairs at a downtown steakhouse and This homeless man pushing someone in front of a truck. There were more than 6,000 of these reported crimes in LA in 2017 by the end of 2018 The number of crimes was up

1:32:06 more than 50 percent. And now we've learned the numbers are on track to climb even higher this year. We found case after case where the suspects suffer from mental illness or methamphetamine abuse. Meth use has been linked to violence and so is untreated mental illness. How could you live in this kind of environment and be okay? Mentally okay. Reverend Andy Bales runs the Union Rescue Mission Does life on the streets lead to violent behavior? Absolutely Like the attack on that woman on a downtown LA street

1:32:42 Keep watching. Just seconds later, the man punched another victim attorney Brandon Cohen were you kind of in shock when it happened? What was shocking was that I lived here for four years and it didn't happen sooner We found the homeless who are arrested for these crimes are often right back on the streets without getting any treatment or help I am always on the lookout we discovered that Brandon Cohen's attacker Charles Fuller had four previous felony convictions. But after he attacked Cohen, the cops simply gave him a citation for battery and let him go four months later, a block away a similar attack against this mother and daughter though the police didn't make an arrest so this suspect wasn't identified. Well, this brings me to the ISO I have the competitive ISO

1:33:35 It may be long, I mean it's three seconds which is a little different for the show. That maybe too long But it's so good! Hot liquid A bucket of his diarrhea Yeah, it's not 3 seconds its 5 seconds here we go A bucket of his diarrhea...it was liquid hot liquid I was soaked Nah that's too long It was hot liquid. I was soaked is that's not too long No, did you gave me a five second? ISO for a two-second slot? no III Look, I like first of all your trouncing on my turf This is my turf but okay it's fine and I wasn't I was making the clip when I looked at your list and like Another one he just walking all over my might might beat this is walking all over epic fail day

1:34:27 The truth must come out. Luckily, Los Angeles has a solution the mayor of Los Angeles what's his name? Mayor Eric Garcetti has come up with a solution Something that we've looked at extensively not as a homeless solution I actually looked at it as a home solution at one point during this show in the past 12 years containers they're going to stack containers Shipping containers and turn these into units for the homeless. There's only one small issue

1:35:10 The each Eunice now you can buy a shipping container for about five grand and we've looked into this between three is a shitty one but $5,000 you get A little more. You got a beautiful one And then you spend whatever you need to spend to make the unit but the basic walls even a door is $5,000 I didn't realize they were that expensive Yeah Well it's a lot of iron Well, I guess yeah you'd have to be mostly aluminum when they're completed each of these Units of these shipping container units in Los Angeles will cost six hundred thousand dollars each what? Yeah. Yep. I suspect a scam Yeah And this is coming from KFI and those guys with bar in LA so they they know I'm sure this is correct

1:36:06 But this is 1.2 billion dollar bond that they have to spend somehow so we might as well put it into 600,000 dollar shipping container units almost as dumb as Austin You know this is oh my god. We're such a mess here, so we got this camping ground designated and yesterday Although it was raining was really crap weather like you know it's at Montopolis and 183 all right let me go look I'm gonna go find it now This is kind of a nutty intersection you you go on Montopolis continues underneath the highway, and I could not find this campground. It must be somewhere behind some other building...I can't find it What i did find under 183 on Montopolis were about five tents so I don't understand have they cleaned anything up? Was that just a PR moment? Did something really take place is there even an actual camp ground that these people are on? I'm gonna have to go out again tomorrow to see if I can find it

1:37:08 Because I could not find it and then all of a sudden this is all bull, then there's new plans that are cropping up And Austin has come up with a spectacular solution. Oh, we should have thought of this earlier! New records obtained by KXAN investigators show where Austin could look to house the city's homeless This comes as Austin police begin enforcing new camping restrictions this week. KXAN investigator Kevin Clark found the city is targeting several hotels for possible housing It's an old bed and breakfast built in 1916. It has six rooms available, it is just blocks from the capital and right across the street from ACC Rio Grande campus yet it one of the for sale hotel properties that city could look to buy and convert into homeless housing We don't want anyone in our community camping or lying in public places

1:38:00 for being forced to do th no other place for them t looks to find housing for We have people in the com forward right now with pr might be able to consider a lot of homeless and de we work to make available specifically I'm talking about some hotels. KXAN obtained this email from interim real estate officer Alex Gale showing a list of hotels and motels for sale in Austin the email was sent to then homeless strategy officer Lori Pampilo Harris who's now a consultant on homeless issues the properties are spread far and wide around Austin, The Red Roof Inn off i-35 has 142 rooms then there's the quality suites near 35th

1:38:41 in Ben White, in South Austin it has a capacity of 51 rooms. We know there are at least seven hotel properties in Austin that are for sale right now." A city spokesperson could only confirm that Austin is in negotiations for multiple hotel properties but wouldn't go into further details. Yeah they're looking at spending eight million dollars on one of these hotels and here's the... Wait a minute They're reinventing in Austin. They're Reinventing the slum hotel yes, and it's genius apparently This is an idea from the 20s And so there's one hotel that they want to buy for $8 million. I think it has 40 rooms, $8 million, 40 rooms but catch this... They're not going to... you don't have to... basically there are no requirements

1:39:34 So it doesn't matter what state you're in, what state of mind or state of anything. You get on the list and your in your own room. No mandatory program but they will keep offering it to you so as I heard at the City Council meeting...I didn't clip it...we'll bang on the door every day offering help So the way I get, now what is eight million dollars divided by 40? And by the way who's gonna provide security. Is there going to be security? Is it going to be you know maintenance? Do they just call someone and the maintenance guy comes and fixes their light bulb? I mean is this... Wow! Yeah well there's more craziness so yesterday there was a big oh when when it comes to schooling in Austin Oh man people get really upset

1:40:29 And there's a new curriculum, a sexual education curriculum for I think seventh and eighth graders. How old are they? Twelve? What's an eighth grader? Thirteen? Well let's see you graduate from high school seventeen to eighteen so she's trying for fourteen. Fourteen could be eight, it could be fourteen. Fourteen. Thirteenth, fourteenth. So its...it got approved so this report is before went for a vote before the school board And it's controversial. Before the doors ever open, fireworks tonight at the Austin ISD school board meeting. AISD police arrested a transgender woman as she disrupted a rally outside district headquarters. Black lives matter!

1:41:13 Just as a rally opposed to the proposed Austin ISD sex ed changes began, protests interrupted it. Austin ISD police stepping in arresting a transgender woman Naomi Wilson accusing her of trespassing Dueling rallies for and against the proposed curriculum played out before a packed school board meeting. They actually showed the guy with that phony birthday horn in his face when that sound came on, it was very funny edit. Dueling rallies for and against the proposed curriculum played out before a packed school board meeting Is this where we're at society? Where were just telling 11 12 13 year olds

1:42:04 Well, they're just going to have sex. Can we not aim higher for our kids? If approved the new curriculum will be for students in third through eighth grade it includes lessons for elementary students on gender identity sexual orientation and STDs Meantime seventh graders will learn about how to use a condom It's time that we revisit it is time We bring in some you know better language about different people. 126 people signed up to speak during public comment, last ditch efforts to sway the board's decision before the final vote district staff created this curriculum after the state blocked it from buying the curriculum from Planned Parenthood school board still listening to public comment it actually just got started on this topic so it will likely be hours before a final vote

1:42:53 So they bought this curriculum from Planned Parenthood. That's an interesting business line I didn't know they were in, making sex education curriculum. True third graders and i have an example of this uh... In practice This is a version and by the way I'm not against sexual education. I think there are some decisions about parents or age appropriateness but when you listen to this Shit man, it's just confusing. People can also be fluid, feel more like female or male based on a different day or time. It's really individual. Absolutely! Everyone born with a vulva is a girl true or false? Or identifies as a girl? Not everybody is sure and that makes sense but our genitals actually don't determine our gender so some people born with vulvas can be boys

1:44:08 Let's learn a little bit more about gender. We actually have an extra special visitor to sex ed school I have been through the spectrum if we were to say a spectrum of like this person is sitting on a chair in the classroom with the kids huddled around and he's explaining his his sexualized gender Boys and girls, I have been everywhere in between. I was born a girl And then when I was two years old, I told my mom for the first time that I was a boy. And uh...I think that I framed it—I don't remember it, I've only been told stories—but I framed it because my brother's middle name was the same as my dad's and so I insisted that my middle name was also the same as his but back in the day there were no talk shows and there was no internet, there were no resources So she just ignored it

1:44:57 And then nothing happened for many, many years. And then it still took me a long time into my 20s before I decided to transition but in there...I was uh you know a tomboy if that's what we say or like I was sporty had short hair and then i grew out of high school because I felt like I should and I felt like that's what people wanted me to be and then in my twenties I decided to become a drag king which we don't hear about as much. Like drag queens are in the news all the time, but a drag king is a little bit different so for me it was I... In my daily life I was a girl but then when i went on stage and wanted to perform I would perform as male and use he him pronouns And that's kind of way for first time where people were seeing me as boy and thats when it kinda clicked into my head if actually want to do this when im offstage as well

1:45:54 I just don't know if this is appropriate for young children. It's just confusing! All these things you can talk about when you're curious and want to know about it, but what is... When is this appropriate? And when is it appropriate for the school to be doing this?" Okay boomer." Yeah big okay boomer. It's tough enough figuring out what to do with the thing and where to put it or whatever—I'm speaking from a guy Another thing, of course they don't even show kids how to balance a checkbook but they go into this sort of thing. What is it? Okay Boomer! What's the cheque book? Google is going to have your bank account surely you know this Yeah apparently that what's going on I found a line which I don't think I would've heard ever well the whole gender thing has been fairly recent

1:46:44 I mean, gender is always assumed when they do statement our genitals do not determine our gender. Is a fairly new construct and I think the history of this would be kind of interesting. I'm sure they could drag it you can find some reference all in the 1700s so-and-so said this or that but this is really not true. This is a recent invention that has been thrust on the public and the public has just lapped it up Or they put up with it. I think a lot, they resisted and then they get pounded to death. Pounded yes and it's very unpopular to say no I don't want my child learning this or I'd like to teach my child... you can opt out by the way but you have to do it in time and of course that stigmatizes the kid then what are you? What's wrong with you?! You can't handle the truth! Just the whole thing seems a little too controversial for school

1:47:38 where we should be learning lots of important things. Well, since we're doing this nutty social justice warrior stuff I have one... Okay Boomer! One more for me. One more This one actually speaks to me directly and this is bullshit and i will play the bullshit jingle for that very reason This is Good Morning Britain with a woman who's pleading that we really should ban clapping it needs to be replaced by jazz hands But what is her reasoning behind that? What is upsetting, genuinely about clapping. So it's actually not just people with anxiety It's also people who use hearing aids, clapping can be disruptive to that. Go home No, clapping is not terrifying or disruptive or startling when you wear hearing aids I have hearing aids...it's not true

1:48:40 And what kind of reasoning is this? All of a sudden we have to now stop clapping because of people with hearing aids. No! naturally about clapping. So it's actually not just people with anxiety, it's also people who use hearing aids, clapping can be disruptive to that People who have sensory processing issues It can be very distressing and overwhelming to have those loud sudden noises But this is part of our culture isn't it? To clap if you go to the theater or you go to a lecture Or you go to a performance or you go to a gig You would expect that people would clap Yeah, absolutely. And that could be preventing people from going to those events which is a real shame So if some theatres or some universities say actually we're gonna be more inclusive and do jazz hands instead That'd be lovely. More people could get involved. And then what would be the penalty if you clapped? I don't think there's gonna be a penalty frankly I don't think anyone's going to say like you need to leave but if you were persisting with clapping Even though you've been requested to do something that's not very polite Is it

1:49:47 I mean, it's nothing new but just the whole bullcrap about hearing aids really got my goat. Yeah well the whole this is stupid Yes it is disheartening jazz hands Yes jazz hands indeed I mean this is there it's almost like a test It's like there are some societal tests going on and people are being graded. Maybe, you know, it's like the Truman Show or something and they're watching... And somebody is saying oh they're going along with that one okay then but they get shipped off to be eaten I mean There has gotta be something going on because of this stupidity The levels of stupidity is just like a test! I don't know what it is But okay Boomer Good for me

1:50:43 Well, let's see. What else we got here? I got a couple of things... Don Cherry was fired! Yes this was uh... Is Don Cherry on the level of like Howard Cosell in Candanavia is he or that's- Well Howard Cosell is fired for saying little monkey um No why would you get fired for that?! But he it was it wasn't in context. It was like he was not intentional that he was calling anybody a monkey He was just talking about this one player who is running around crazy on the field and he thought of me Through that term and there was the end to that but Don Cherry's yeah, I would say That's a good analogy even though nobody knows who listens this show now knows who Howard Coase Howard Cosell is here he comes ladies and gentlemen the chairman of the board Frank Sinatra

1:51:35 Legacy him in old Woody Allen movies now. So cherry just bitches about immigrants and this is a work of art where I'm going to play And they play the whole thing and pretty much what Sherry had to say is in this clip? I tried to find the whole thing at final chunks of it, but at no time does he ever say the word white or black or anything in between He for all practical purposes, just is bitching about immigrants specifically not buying the little poppies. Now we talked about these little poppies on the DHM plug show because even Horowitz is unfamiliar with this long time. Really? Well you know I lived in the UK so I'm very familiar with it

1:52:24 Well, it was popular in the United States too. Oh this I didn't know In the 50s and 60's you could get these poppies and they sold them at all the grocery stores And I talked to Horace about it but he never heard of such a thing They still do it in some states in the south I've seen it every once in awhile and I'm always amused by it But the United States has given up on this Meh They don't care. But in Canada they still do it, and they're doing it at UK. Historically just now this falls on Veterans Day which used to be Armistice day... And these copies are about armistice day! The end of World War I which is still celebrated in the United States of Britain

1:53:01 And of course them being a nice, you know the colonial bit Australia and Candanavia need to participate in this. And a lot of Candanavians died in World War One! Yes A lot And so we had, so they sell the poppies and they still do the poppy bit. You wear the poppy on 11-11 you wear a little poppy and you might wear it couple days later. No but no no no! Having lived in the UK for five years these things are everywhere at every checkout counter it is...you're a social pariah if you don't buy a poppy and where it's really for the entire weekend It's a couple days leading up to 11-11

1:53:42 and you can wear it a few days after, but you're supposed to be wearing it really for almost a week. And there's no excuse because they're practically running up to you on the street and pinning them on you." Yes. And I was there when we participated in the 60s 50s and 60s that used to be here too Why it died out? I don't know. In fact, somebody probably out there knows and I expect to get a letter explaining it but it died out in this country excepting like I said a couple southern states they still do it But we don't do that at all and in fact to the point where Horowitz didn't even know what I was talking about Yeah That's how killed it was He should be ashamed

1:54:26 Well, he should. But so here's what happens with Cherries bitching about the immigrants not wearing the poppies and they turn this into an unbelievable story And let's play Don Cherry Event 1. Caring to target immigrants in a rant about people not wearing poppies ahead of Remember and Stay You people love, you come here whatever it is you love our way of life, you love our milk and honey at least you can pay a couple bucks for poppies or something like that The 85-year old made the remarks on Saturday night during his weekly Coaches Corner segment as part of hockey night in Canada.

1:55:15 Cherry told longtime co-commentator Ron McClain he rarely sees people wearing poppies anymore to honor veterans, appearing to take aims squarely at those he believes are new immigrants. Several Canadians promptly took to social media to condemn Cherry's comments as racist and call for his firing. These guys paid for your way of life that you enjoy in Canada! the biggest price. McLean was also called out for not saying anything in response, instead flashing Cherry a quick thumbs up I owe you an apology too that's the big thing that i want to emphasize I sat there did not catch it did not respond The host of Rogers Hometown hockey expressed remorse on Sunday night for how he handled himself during the broadcast

1:55:59 It certainly doesn't stand for what Sportsnet or Rogers represents. Last night was a really great lesson to Don and me, we were wrong and I sincerely apologize and i wanted to thank you for calling me and Don on that last night. Sportsnet which produces Hockey Night in Canada has apologized saying in his statement, Don's discriminatory comments are offensive and they do not represent our values and what we stand for as a network Now, I'm stopping it because it continues where it gets really good. First of all, his partner said we were wrong and he threw Don under the bus. Sherry came on some other shows later and said I didn't apologize for anything and I didn't think we were wrong He says my use of the word you people seems to be worthy of triggering Racist And then he says that may have been a mistake But he was still condemning the immigrants for not wearing pommies Yeah good for him! Good for him! And he's just gonna rant anti-immigrant rant

1:56:56 Which is, you know I suppose it's fireable. Well no, I'm sorry he didn't go on an anti-immigrant rant He said... It's not anti immigrant! He said these new people these immigrants are not participating in a cultural event and you need to integrate a little bit And i think he then said by the way A lot of the guys that we remember and gals, guys more died so that you can be here In our cold ass country I think you're correct and i think that probably would have ended it there. But the network, because they have to rationalize getting rid of this guy... Yeah Had to twist this is a very interesting use of they twisted the thing It turned out not to be an anti-immigrant rant even though what you heard is all he said He hates blacks! Ha ha, I told ya he's racist! Is this clip too?

1:57:53 And before you started, I just want to mention people should listen carefully how the media just distorted the whole thing and it got people to go along with this. To the point where it wasn't just this immigrant complaint which is what you described but a complain about not taking part It's a racial...it turns into that he hates blacks! Wait let's go further He hates black veterans I missed all this. You're right, this is groovy! I can't wait here we go! We have spoken to Don about the severity of this issue and we sincerely apologize for these divisive remarks

1:58:34 Sportsnet is a division of Rogers Media, the parent company of City News. He needs to sit down and stop talking. Sports writer Shareen Ahmed says Cherry's comments took a personal turn when he said you people she adds his narrative that those who served our country were all white it's not only historically inaccurate but an insult to thousands of veterans and their families. Don Cherry gets to sit there in a pine about how we remember vets is horrible to me. I mean, this is a man that's never served had he taken a moment to recognize you know the black Canadian fighters and the indigenous men that gave their lives who

1:59:15 describes and defines as a vet doesn't include everybody. After Cherry's comments even the Canadian Armed Forces tweeted a reminder about the important contributions and sacrifices soldiers of color have made to Canada's military it says they fought to fight for Canada, they fought for the chance to give their lives for Canada, they fought for your right to choose... They are us! Wow That I still don't know exactly how that happened. I heard that that woman come in the young girl who's Muslim wearing a Najeeb Hijab Oh, oh oh oh That is that is? That's pretty sick you for some backup Americans You guys doing pretty good up there you got this stuff down

2:00:05 So she comes on and makes a complaint, and she brings in white which was never discussed. And it gets twisted because she feels offended... And next thing you know, he hates black veterans. It's like you go from complaining about people not wearing a poppy to you hate black veterans just bang bang bang! It was a work of art I thought and that is a deplatforming on a massive scale They just took him right out and then just turned it around into you're racist because you don't even, You're too ignorant to know that there were black veterans? Unbelievable. Yeah I was taken aback by that. That is fantastic! It's sad... And is there no pushback? Certainly our Candanavian producers can... He's cancelled. No he's done. He's cancelled yeah. That's cancelled and in the bin

2:01:10 I believe though that there was, they were out to get him for a while. There must be more behind this than what we're up to here too Well yes because he's 85, he's hogging the spot on the air He won't retire and it's like he's irascible The only reason people watch his shows is cause he makes these kinds of comments and goes off the deep end alot And he's fun, he's a fun guy. I've watched him. He's hilarious. It's called Coaches' Corners the main show. He talks about the hockey game and how these guys are playing poorly because they're not doing things right! Then he describes everything they should be doing and what they're not doing right with it. Very good is like Johnny Miller if you get to watch him do golf commentation.

2:01:56 Excellent, mainly because he's very harsh. People like don't they like honesty even though sometimes you can be wrong I mean that's why our show is so popular cuz we're honest We don't have anyone telling us not to do stuff Cherry felt that way that he did that He was pretty much a freelancer and would do whatever he wanted And then they just got sick of it Looked for the first boat out of town and kicked him on it Well at least that won't happen with us anymore Just a quickie there was an article in the Guardian that caught my eye because the title of it was should we stop keeping pets and the subtitle research into animals emotional lives has cast doubt on the ethics of pet keeping

2:02:50 And and like we finally come full circle. I'll read a few bits, and this is serious This is not not joking This is not the onion from the animals that become dog and cat food in the puppy farms churning out increasingly unhealthy Purebred canine to the goldfish sold by the bag and the crickets by the box pet ownership is problematic because it denies animals the right of self-determination Ultimately, we bring them into our lives because we want them. Then we dictate what they eat where they live how they behave how they look even whether they get to keep their sex organs. This is the Babylon Bee? No this is The Guardian

2:03:34 Treating animals as commodities isn't new or shocking. Humans have been meat eaters and animal skin wearers for millennia, blah blah blah move forward quote it's morally problematic because more people are thinking of pets as people that's what I always say they consider them part of their family they think of them as their best friend They wouldn't sell them for a million dollars says Dr Hal Herzog professor of psychology at Western Carolina University At the same time, research is revealing that the emotional lives of animals even relatively quote simple animals such as goldfish are far more complex and rich than we once thought. The logical consequence is that the more we attribute them with these characteristics, the less right we have to control every single aspect of their lives." This is where it's going to go! You could almost... We could have actually I could have predicted this It's going to be cruel

2:04:32 to have an animal because dogs are people too. It will be cruel if you give the dog to eat what YOU want the dog to eat, tell him where to lie down and cut his nuts off! And this is going to be very problematic People are gonna get brain fried from this Not that they gave the dog the right to vote I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda Imagine all of the people who could do that Oh yeah, that'd be fab Indeed, we have a few people to thank for show 1190. 1190 starting with Crystal Darrow in Santa Ana

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2:17:14 And we have chairs next to each other here at the round table. Thank you for the support and please head on over to noagendanation.com slash rings give Eric the show all your deets Deets as the kids say hey the deets and I expect to see a photo of The dame and the night with both their night rings proudly displayed. There'll be something nice for the tweeters It's just like a party it's where you can go and have conversations You okay? Yeah, what's wrong?

2:17:52 I turned on the other monitor, it has the hearings going. It's gonna...I have to turn it off, it's gonna knock me out." I don't know what you're talking about but are you okay for another 30 minutes? Yeah yeah! I can handle that. I got that. I turned off the monitor. Okay Meetups here's a list now these meetups are a phenomenon that is only explainable by the fact that we have a common bond as no agenda person producers and we know that no matter what a person looks like, how they speak yes even if they drop the T's or vocal fry it doesn't matter because you all come from the same place and we all meet at places and we hang out. We have a good time

2:18:34 Today we have the Local 512 South Austin, Texas meetup at 730. That's of course hosted by Sir Scott he is the baronet of the NOAA Gender Armory and his lovely wife Christine Meet up at Docs Backyard in Sunset Valley It's the second time they're doing this I won't be there tonight They do it on Thursday because they don't want me there In Michigan! It's true that's what they told me We do it on Thursdays Yeah but they said it in a note too Yeah...we don't want you around Also today in Michigan 630 Eastern, the local number one pizza run. You can join them at Spicy Slices Build Your Own Personal Neapolitan Pizza. Yusef Hegazi is your host tomorrow Wichita's Cowtown Hoedown meetup the first one six o'clock and that will be in FEMA region number seven of course

2:19:21 The Wichita Brewing Company asks for a dude named Clem and Darren the Navigator. Saturday, Cincinnati Ohio at 3 o'clock this is the official I got tired of waiting for somebody else to schedule a meetup Meet up? Come to the Fretboard Brewing Company for an afternoon of merriment Baron Foxpad of the Cook Islands look for the man with the tan The 22nd also, oh that's a we jump right to next week. Well I'll give you that one as well That'll be in the Hague and the Netherlands the city of international justice and world peace And the seat of the Dutch government the residents of our King and loads and loads of experts

2:19:56 of expats. The venue will be... And a little town in miniature world! It's not far from there, the venue will be the Fiddler Den Haag in the heart of the city, a five minute walk from the Binnenhof where the Dutch Knights Hall is situated so all you knights and dames should not feel out of place And it can never be enough at any and enough na meetups Robin of the dunes of the Hague is Organizing that and I'll just add in cam loops British Columbia, Canada Navia 6 o'clock on next Saturday and that will be at the noble pig. Those are your meet-ups for now? I did have a meet up report night ask people to send a video or audio I did get one but it was kind of like

2:20:39 presented meetup. It was too long, a minute and a half but it was the Boston Meet-Up which we already reviewed right? I did the report! Anyway this is still written Orange County Meet-Up Let's see... Although the outing had a few hiccups and a few less attendees, they had nine which is still not bad. A grand time was had by all who made the sojourn We met with some new no-agendians Reconnected with old ones and check this even had a brief video chat with Sir Chris Wilson Who regaled us with songs and bits to keep us entertained while we looked for second venue

2:21:19 Wow, Chris Wilson just dialing on video chat to just entertain people. I love that guy He is the true troubadour he is the true troubadour which brick while the drunken minstrel is his title Which brings us to the a drunken troubador? This brings us to the hiccups Attention meet up people you can learn from this we chose bus scat next to the John Wayne Airport And that was just in case John wanted to attend yeah and found that it was over... Hey, I did. I wanted to attend but they jacked up the prices on flights to John Wayne so high that it was not practical. Southwest? Isn't that like their main...? It's one of their main ones. One of their other main ones is Phoenix but yeah, it's just one of them. Well anyway we found it was overcrowded and loud AF look at up John they say

2:22:12 It's like an okay boomer slam. We were talking about autofocus exactly we were forced to find a second venue after a few Nairs called it quits however those of us who stayed had a wondrous time exploring that weird barcade nightclub place with the awesome tacos Moving on we sent a collected donation of $180. Please send us all some goat karma yours in 5g Crystal and Ryan Darrow and the rest of the OC no agendians Yes, I will send some go Karma to you You've got karma Here we go. Thank you all very much and if you want to know where the meetups are, go to noagendameetups.com unlike those phonies at meetups.com cost nothing and you don't have to pay per attendee or anything like that. And even better than that if you want a start to meet up same place, no agenda meet ups dot com. Yeah it's fantastic. I have a couple of things to get to before we're going with more clips. Okay this is my list

2:23:15 Your list. Of things that we're supposed to talk about, we never do. Oh! Did you clean up the office and you fell? No no I have it hanging from the ceiling on a string and for some reason in the last show i'd never noticed so here it is uh-huh okay You were discussing while in Amsterdam credit card, you can't buy dope meaning marijuana or hashish or whatever with a credit card. I'm sorry with cash... No! You can't use a credit card but you have talked about on the show many times that you can't use cash in Amsterdam so how does this work? Well you're right there is..I tried to now the way that this particular coffee shop worked which was in Rotterdam

2:24:02 Very modern on the inside and it's all so you walk in as kind of like a little waiting room. And then behind the glass, there's 2 people who are selling the product with like can we stop? And back up and let me ask a question that probably was answered years ago, but I want to ask it again. Why are marijuana pot smoking places called coffee shops? Because you can buy coffee there as well. They originally were coffee shops where you could smoke and then they kind of became smoke shops where you can coffee So if you actually had a real coffee shop

2:24:42 You couldn't call, and you didn't want to sell anything but coffee. Like a true coffee shop. You couldn't really call it a coffee shop in Holland. In fact I think you may not even be allowed to call it a coffee shop because of the connotation yet because there's no...you're not allowed to create new ones It is being phased out to harmonize with the European Union so eventually this will be gone By the way weed is not actually legal in Holland. It is permitted but it is not legal And there are some very strict restrictions on the sellers. So it's kind of like buying a train ticket, where you have the little... You can slide your ID underneath the window, the little slot there. Most people

2:25:31 are requested, and of course I have a Texas driver's license which was accepted but you can't swipe it or tap it on their... they have government ID. And everyone is just like oh okay! I'll just prove who I am and they swipe their government ID and says okay your approved Of course now the government knows that your buying weed but thats just a minor thing that I guess the Dutch don't care about So thats to prove that you can actually buy it then you purchase And I just, they have a pin machine which is for your debit card. Your PIN card which actually doesn't work on the debit card system it only works on the Dutch banking system which is why they called it a PIN card and I put my credit card in and went like wow should I try again? No no no!

2:26:24 geen wiet op krediet she said I said what? geen wiet op kredit which translates it rhymes but it translates to no weed on credit geen wiet op kredit and I said oh so yeah that's the law you cannot buy weed on credit which makes sense. I'm okay with that But of course, I didn't have a pin card so i did have cash and they gladly accepted that. And then to answer your question kind of... Then you back up, turn left there's a glass door And of course, I showed my ID. If you have an ID to swipe then the glass door unlocks and it's a beautifully wood-and-glass modern interior coffee shop with actually free coffee! A coffee machine where you can just get your coffee from, cappuccino if you wanted it... and smoke! Well, you kind of ignored the question

2:27:23 No, I didn't. I said you...I answered it completely! The question the real question was you said on a previous show you can't use cash Well apparently for buying weed You still can because they have to sell to foreigners and foreigners don't have the PIN system So this is one of them so they and I've never said you can't use cash in certain spots in I've never said but if we can't use it anywhere I said that were phasing it out You did no I said they're phasing it out and there are shops. There are shops where you don't buckle fry me They'll maybe maybe that's what that was the trick that bill was using No, brother all right Let me give you some screw your list do you remember what? I said about the lowering of the speed limit yes it happened oh

2:28:09 No. Yep, the Dutch speed limit lowered from 130 kilometers an hour to 100 nationwide which is about 62 that's the top speed limit there's lots of lower speed limits where you sure we drive now There's an exemption between 7 p.m.. And 6 a.m You still may be able to drive 130 on certain sections But here's how it was explained this is very interesting The Prime Minister said in announcing this ruling, the reason they're doing this is it will lower the obvious greenhouse deadly gases that are killing us all. And because we all collectively drive slower we are saving on our carbon budget

2:29:04 and therefore the building sector can now go back to work, and they will get their 18 thousand permits to start building over 74 thousand homes which we'll need because were expecting a lot of immigrants to come. Do you think this pisses some people off? Wow! And he had the audacity... They put this out there as though it's good news?! ...and had the audacity to add to that If more people start driving battery cars, we may be able to raise it eventually sometime kind of maybe. The Dutch are outraged." Now this is from the same party who are the majority party I think have been in almost 18 years

2:29:57 I think it was, maybe it was 10 years ago. It's the same party who raised the limit! They're a center right wing, the VVD They raised the limit from 100 to 130, saying it actually is better to drive faster. You get there sooner therefore you pollute less but everyone's forgotten that apparently and now it's going to lower everything so that the construction sector can get back to work to build almost 100 thousand homes because we got a lot of immigrants coming Well, I'll tell you. Eventually someone is going to get hurt in this mess. This is nuts! And having lived there in this country that speed limit was very important for the Dutch. It's just a culturally important thing. So I found that fascinating Wow okay one more thing on the list and I was looking at oh yeah podcasters union

2:30:58 Well, I think we were talking about this maybe after the show that whatever happened to it did they happen? Are the podcasters union in place are people benefiting from this and I'd love to know. I don't see any more stories about it. I heard one time was the Gimlet that was getting unionized or who wasn't? Yeah, I think it was Gimlet. It was bought by Spotify and that's the end of it. Mm-hmm yeah there no Union as far as I know Anything else anything else on your list? No, that was the only two items on the list was surprisingly John Cena for a bake-a-like pie today's Teddy Kaye. He's an OTG kind of guy Yeah, everybody is no TG kinda guy. Okay boomer

2:31:50 Yeah, I do have some OTG stuff to discuss because i got answers to the SMS text messaging issue that I witnessed and I was having messages not showing up when I was texting The Keeper from overseas. And I think there's...I've had more of these issues. I know for sure sometimes pictures don't get sent which means Well I'm just gonna say isn't there other rules about when you're overseas trying to send it in the U.S.? It's always a problem? It shouldn't be, when SMS first came into play it was very much a network delivered service from the telco networks and it was guaranteed, like a guaranteed service with...you can even have receipts and yeah it was quite

2:32:40 Quite a big deal and it came in with the GSM standard before whatever was way before it came to the US And it was quite the revelation people were using because it was cheaper than calling then of course as I remember that was during the era where people would have two phones they'd have one for calling and one for SMS. Oh, I don't remember that! I never had that. Yeah it was because of the rates they would... Oh right right right Phone system to SM... Because SMS cost money yeah The SMS was cheap It were being subsidized but the phone calling was expensive on this ones line and then in the other line where the phone was cheap and SMS was expensive so you ended with two phones Well this is the answer to what's going on here

2:33:27 or the explanation, really comes in my mind close to some claims you've made which are sounding very true when you read this. And we got a number of dudes named Ben who all requested anonymity because they work in this sector so no names but I picked one of them out that I think is... They all kind of basically said the same thing. I recently worked for an SMS router called Open Market They are an absolute mess, yet they have millions of messages they deliver. And just so you know that these routers there's many of them and essentially all the telcos all the phone companies outsourced this type of work to these routers because it's a lot of data

2:34:18 Yeah, our dude named Ben continues. This is not that dissimilar to what email providers do the company charges per message for some customers But also they have to compete so they will give large buckets of pricing to some providers Now this company is an SMS MMS RCS router for many giant organizations yet They have recently lost out on a large contract with Amazon I love it Where am I? But they are the provider for Apple, for instance which is one of the largest companies they broker. They use a legacy service structure in a data center and are currently migrating to a micro-service architecture especially the new RCS service this is what Google is trying to push everybody toward

2:35:08 The most recent technological advancement in this realm is the use of RCS, rich communication services. It's a protocol between both mobile operators and phones. The overall aim of RCS is for it to eventually replace SMS and MMS. The reason why these messages do sort-of late delivery can be a multitude of issues is likely due to consumer processes that fail on the back end to deliver messages from the queue Many of these services use Amazon Web Services or RabbitMQ for queuing and there are a number of issues with these services. This is kind of consistent what I heard, is that

2:35:49 They can't handle the load really and this is why I mentioned that you've been seeing this and you believe that Twitter, and other companies that claim algorithms are doing the business. That they actually can't display everything as desired because of just the workload or the amount of data... Well you tell me your suspicions? I've noticed this, I think the whole shadow banning thing is a scam. They gladly accept the responsibility of oh well yeah we were shadow banning when they're not doing anything except they just can't handle the load it's too

2:36:28 Too much, Twitter is just overloaded. They can't afford more capacity because they start losing money It's a bean counter thing I think this is true with not only them but also true I think this was showing up with the new Disney services that failed already Oh yeah they had a bad launch And you know and that's why you have people who have come up with these other technologies like where they use these appliances and Google does it with their YouTube, they have a YouTube appliance that's at most ISPs and they also Netflix does. And that's why it seems as though they can handle the load well because most of the load they're not handling is being handled by these other little systems

2:37:12 put their best movies, for example on Netflix. You go find some really old piece of crap on Netflix that nobody's watched in a long time and it's not gonna come to you at all. It won't load? It chokes off, oh okay yeah spin spin spin here it is but if you watch a first run movie boom they're right there That kind of puts a new slant on something that Instagram is doing is now removing likes from posts. Is an Instagram post without likes still worth sharing? That's what users will find out when the platform starts hiding likes on some US posts The idea is to try and depressurize Instagram, make it less of a competition give people more

2:37:53 space to focus on connecting with people that they love, things that inspire them. Already tested in seven other countries Instagram will hide likes on a limited number of US accounts for now you'll be able to see the likes but your followers won't Kim Kardashian one of instagram's biggest influencers with more than 150 million followers is giving the change her stamp of approval as far as mental health I mean it's something that, you know I think taking the likes away and taking that aspect away from it would be really beneficial for people. That idea has also pushed other social platforms like Facebook YouTube and Twitter to experiment with removing metrics that show how many users like or see a post too Along with this social pressure to rack up likes Instagram has also turned iconic places like this down under the Manhattan Bridge from popular into overrun often just for the gram

2:38:47 I actually don't post as much as i used to just because even the comments give me anxiety sometimes. When you're so hung up on what people are liking, what people are not liking and kind of forgetting about really what was Instagram all about to begin with? Instagram's experiment could soon become a reality for everyone like it or not So I don't know if that's because they can't handle displaying the number of likes. They seem to want to display it for the... Well, let me stop you before you go on with that thesis because I think it quite possibly could be taking a bit of the load off and I'll tell a story as a person that told me this and apparently this goes used to going all the time but most of the CEOs of airlines don't fly in their airlines anymore but they used to

2:39:29 And this guy was a friend of mine, and apparently this happened a lot. There was the guy that used to be the CEO of American Airlines Crawford Kramer or something like that he's very famous CEO is blowhard and they were using it but the guys talking about his first class is talking to me says well you know did food used to be better and this and this guy the CEO says you know We used to put two olives on this meal. And we only put one olive on now and that saved us three million dollars a year! No kidding? And you take this, and those little things do add up. I believe that scales right to these systems so they have

2:40:14 They had the little thing like taking the likes off probably saves them a lot of server space and it saves them some computation. And I think it probably does take enough, It's like taking the olive off. It's like... A little bit? It's the Olive Theory! It's the Olive Theory! Well Cardi B who is an authority when it comes to Instagram uh and she's very successful which is she has oh she's a lot wealthier than we are She has some... she posted on Instagram, she posted something to her Insta story. Insta story about the likes and she talks weird but it's worth listening too because she still approaching this from a mental health perspective not the olive theory

2:41:02 But she has she makes a good comment about some other changes that have occurred to Instagram Which she feels have ruined the product and she is an expert So, you know it's like a big ruckus right now that they're nice on Instagram are getting taken away and it's like hmm This is my opinion on it. Right? so from the beginning of Instagram we had likes and I feel like in the beginning of Instagram everything was just so fun people wanted to post their pictures get likes it was just a place where you could see pictures and then it started to become videos

2:41:38 where I think that Instagram got a little nasty and it just took a weird turn was when people started to like the comments, when they were allowed to like comments or reply back to somebody's comments. That's when I feel like people started saying nasty things out of hand. People would post news about...I don't know. It's hard to listen too but she is making good point That Instagram used to be just you post a picture and there was a list of comments underneath Now you can comment on comments, and you can like comments And I think that may be more important important is if you have to display account. I mean shoot YouTube doesn't even update their accounts in real time we know that so I You know it may just be an olive problem

2:42:35 It's certainly very disruptive for, and that in a way it's like with Twitter. I did by the way...I have an Instagram account, I've had one since early inception of this service but it's on some old phone, I never even posted anything but I go there once in awhile to look at people's pictures or something along those lines but I didn't know they were letting you like comments? When would that start? I checked it this morning, so it is possible. But yeah you can like comments Alright another time still on OTG as we had a kerfuffle! A kerfuffle Now every company in Silicon Valley wants to be your bank...I think we've mentioned this

2:43:21 For several years now that is always the ultimate and now we know that Google plans to offer checking accounts. Facebag wants to give you face bag doubloons, everyone wants to be your bank and not only that they want to be your medical provider and this one have your whole life and you're holding that in your hands with a stupid smartphone which you should throw away You really and I have some on Sunday. I have some thoughts for people who want to live the OTG lifestyle How you can get into it cost effectively and how it will if you have phone addiction, which most of us do? How it will save you from that and so I'm working on a little segment But the latest kerfuffle was the Apple credit card Which is back office by Goldman Sachs

2:44:09 who by the way are irked that they didn't get the credit for it. They're kind of happy now I think because well, the algos that are determining credit limits are biased. Apple calls it simple and secure A credit card created by Apple not a bank But apple and partner Goldman Sachs are now accused of gender bias software developer and millionaire David Heinemeyer Hanson says he and his wife share assets and income But Apple Card gave him a credit line 20 times higher than hers, even though she has a higher credit score. It seemed very discriminatory that I would get 20 times the credit limit even though our stats were the same Goldman says a computer algorithm made the decision

2:44:53 When Hanson vented on Twitter, social media erupted with similar stories. Even the man who co-founded Apple, Steve Wozniak says he got 10 times the credit limit that his wife Janet got It was so low I could barely buy a plane ticket and I buy all of his plane tickets And I always think in terms of assets and income and it's the same for both us and that should determine your credit worthiness. Goldman Sachs, Apple's financial partner says gender and marital status are not factors we look at an individual's income and an individual's creditworthiness which includes factors like personal credit scores how much debt you have and how that debt has been managed consumer advocates say algorithm bias is nothing new

2:45:36 it in housing, we've seen it in hiring. We've seen it in health care." Tonight the WSNYX say Goldman Sachs has offered to increase Janet's limit as New York State regulators look into whether this credit card algorithm has an illegal gender bias First of all, I find it very sad that people are actually angry about how much in debt they can go. I just find that incredibly sad! Get a debit card if you want no limit if you've got the money or get an American Express card. It's just arguing oh I'm so great I can go up to $100,000 dollars in debt okie dokie good on you

2:46:16 Of course, if you really want to know what's going on. If you want the true answers in technology we all know there is only one queen it has got to be Kara Swisher who can tell us what is really going on! It also really kind of speaks to the fact that yes an algorithm involves computers and machines but there still has to be a human being basically inputting code how that speaks to perhaps inherent biases or even just mistakes unintended consequences Well, I don't know if it's unintended consequences. These are programmed by people and of course as you know Diversity in the tech ranks are pretty low And so it's not the question that people try to is that the way these algorithms Are designed? Is there not as thought out as they should be everyone assumes the black box and machine decides everything But whatever you put in comes out of it and so in this case

2:47:06 In this case, what's really the problem is there are so many good examples of bad outcomes here and they only grow as time goes on. I think it should be extended out for lots of things. It is this idea that algorithms rule us and as we get into quantum computing and everything else... ...we tend to rely on the decisions of these technologies that were created by people." and largely by men, and largely by white man. And so it's just this thing we have to think about is how these algorithms go into place and how much... So I call such bullcrap on what she just said. I guarantee you its brown and yellow men writing these algorithms It's not white men

2:47:44 Mostly Indians. That's what I'm saying, brown men but no it's white men and they're white It was all their fault. Yeah that was shameful She should have her card pulled And there are plenty of women coding this stuff too So she is full of crap Most of the white guys are the bosses Hello! Isn't she a white dude? Come on Cara get it together One last one for you By the way I missed this One last one just to make you throw up in your mouth a little bit. This is a fabulous little NPR segment they did on this great smart home neighborhood which Amazon is sponsoring, it's the future John! It's great, it's gonna be

2:48:30 Fabulous! Brittany Sivach works for Lenar, one of the nation's largest home builders. And she has been making the same sales pitch over and over to potential home buyers in this Seattle suburb. Control everything from your window blinds to your door locks using just your voice. The front door is locked Adjust the mood lighting or tell Roomba to clean up Call up the feed from one of the countless video cameras on the smart television. Alexa, show me the backyard. Okay! And now we can spy on whoever is having a drink on the back patio. Cameras and convenience that's the pitch Drew Holmes wasn't looking for a smart home when he shopped for a house here but the technologies came with the house Now I would not live without them His favorite feature is a ring doorbell that logs visitors Have a teenager it's nice to confirm when they come home

2:49:20 And I have proof of it. One time, Holmes was away on a business trip and his stepdaughter forgot her key and couldn't get in So she just texted me hey can you open the door? And i opened the door from Oregon That was nice! Problem solved There are other neighborhoods like this bubbling up outside tech savvy cities like Miami and Denver And I should mention Amazon is an NPR sponsor In this neighborhood, Alexa's in every room. She adjusts the thermostat and reports on people's commutes when they roll out of bed... And she's getting better at it because she's watching and learning what people need! Dave Garland thinks the technology will take off once people try it He is with Second Century Ventures, an investment arm of The National Association Of Realtors. There's a new narrative when it comes to what home means

2:50:09 It means a personalized environment where technology responds to your every need. Maybe it means giving up some privacy? These families are trying out that compromise. 15-year old Macy Ferguson says she likes it, she uses Alexa alarms – one for cheerleading practice and one for homework – to help her manage her busy life. I just feel really fancy because She's my little like servant or butler. I don't know. Slave slave is what you meant? But her mom, Kelly, is more cautious If I'm walking on our street, I walk on the other side of the street The side without the smart homes Just because they do not feel like being on everyone's cameras And that something we'll all have to learn how to navigate if this technology becomes standard in more neighborhoods Can't wait NPR thanks for that wonderful report with your Amazon sponsor

2:51:02 Disgusting. I know it's disgusting! This is just 1984 stuff Yeah, and we're happily purchasing it Well we're not No But the public at large The public at large Most people are all happy They're giddy they're jitty They're all jitty with it and you know It won't end well Especially I'm sorry, continue. I was gonna say... What? It won't end well, especially-I forgot what i was going to say You said it's not gonna end well No, I was gonna say something else Oh! Especially when they cut your power off is what I was gonna say Yes which happens a lot now. It was bitching about and then they had a whole special I didn't clip it of course

2:51:48 But it's like I can tell you, it's like I'm a fisherman. You know? I caught this huge fish. The one that got away! That's alright. So this clip was about how all the cell towers were cut off along with the rest of the power and nobody could even communicate. Ham radio baby K5ACC dot com. That's what I keep saying in ham radio. That's it. We will return on Sunday I'm coming to you from Opportunity Zone 33 here in FEMA Region number 6 which you can find at the governmental maps in the capital of the drone star state Austin Tejas Remember us at Dvorak dot org slash NA In the morning everybody

2:52:28 I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I want to send laments to the people that are suffering from the global warming effects of the incredibly cold weather back east, which isn't helping our show a lot of people part of you listening. I'm John C. Dvorak. Special thanks to Jesse Coy Nelson see we've got The Jeff Smith and I'm gonna throw that social media song out there as well. Nick the Rat coming up next on NoahJennerStream.com until Sunday Adios mofos and such! Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself

2:53:17 Flying over Afghanistan, or maybe it was Pakistan I promised myself to aim myself at every woman child and man That was on my list I don't care if i missed. I'm remote controlled, I do what I am told By someone at a computer Obama gave me a push More than Bush and I cost millions I was supposed to target terrorists But not so much civilians I don't know what to say Whoops some got in my eye

2:53:57 a drone again naturally a drone again naturally No agenda! What is this? We must... Hey man, fist bump. No agenda! No agenda! Space Force! It's real! No agenda! Oh my gosh! Can you see that juice?! No agenda! And her head is gone That's true No agenda! Adios, opo

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