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00:00 12k lives matter, man. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. And Sunday, September 15th, 2019, this is your award-winning Kidmaw Nation Media Assassination Episode 1173. This is no agenda. Revvin' up the 500-mile drones and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 in the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's foggy. Unbelievable. I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In our world today, many things are unbelievable. Foggy in San Francisco? Not one of them. Yeah. Come on. How can you call that unbelievable when... Because it's not July. Unbelievable is weaponized drones that fly 500 miles.

00:56 Well, that's unbelievable. That's actually believable. What kind of drone does this? Electric. I find this whole story... Couple of batteries. Of course I'm referring to the explosions at the Saudi, was it oil refinery? Is it refinery or processing? What exactly is that? A refinery that is processing. So is everyone now waiting for the oil markets to open tonight or when I think they open late Sunday to see if it'll go to $100 a barrel? Well, it won't go to $100 a barrel. Only took out... Well, for one thing, it's a refining operation, not a crude oil production operation. So the refining will be done someplace else. Right, but it'll cause a slowdown. It has to. Yeah. Well, just apparently,

01:53 It accounts for 10% of the production, of worldwide production on a daily basis. Right. Well, I mean, what I'm reading in a lot of publications is, oh, this is going to be a heart attack for the oil industry. Prices are going to go through the roof. Well, they are going to go up. Yeah. They were pretty low, actually. We were at $2.15 a gallon here. Which is nice. Well, it's the same four bucks a gallon here, so I don't know how much higher it's gonna go. Use a bicycle! If you don't like paying four dollars a gallon, use a bicycle! I just can't get over this non-reporting of what kind of drones did this. I feel exactly the same way. What kind of drones? Here's the CBS, this is the drone strike clip, CBS wrapping it up.

02:51 Eh? The attack damaged the source of an estimated 8 million barrels of crude oil produced there every day. That's about 10% of the world's daily supply of crude oil. Here's Roxana Siberi. Flames and black smoke filled the sky over the world's largest oil processing plant in Saudi Arabia this morning, spreading so far they could even be seen from space.

03:28 Saudi Arabia confirmed that Abgeeg Refinery and Horesse Oil Field, the country's second biggest, were both hit by drone strikes. In neighboring Yemen, Houthi rebels claimed responsibility for the attack. The group's spokesman said the Houthis struck the two sites with 10 drones and warned of more attacks. The Iranian-backed Houthis have been at war with the Saudi-led coalition in Yemen since 2015. Brutal conflict has pushed Yemen to the brink of famine and turned the country into what the UN calls the world's worst humanitarian crisis.

04:06 Lately, that war has stretched into Saudi Arabia, with rebels repeatedly using drones to target oil facilities, the heart of the country's economy and a source of one-tenth of the world's crude oil. But Saturday's attack hid deep within the country, proving the Houthis' ability to carry out increasingly sophisticated strikes and threatening to escalate tensions that are already inflamed in the Persian Gulf. Today's drone strikes could have an effect on oil prices. But that depends on how badly the sites were damaged. Rina, the Saudis say Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman received a phone call from President Trump saying attacks like this could have a negative impact on the economy in the U.S. and around the world.

04:48 So, well, I have a couple... go ahead. Well, a couple things first. By the way, if you want just a quick aside, I do have that ISOed. I knew you'd laugh at it. It's a Yemeni, Yemeni ISO. I like it. You know, this actually, this begs for a combo. It begs for somebody to translate it. Well, let's give this a shot. Hold on a second. Let's try this. Let me just rewind. China is asshole! Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought you were going to bring the Korean woman in. Oh, we could do her too. Yeah, I wouldn't mind a little translation. That would be nice. Yeah, translation would be good. Wait, let's try this. Hold on, let me just try it. We can do a three-peat.

05:45 Come on three way be a three-way. Oh, yes a three-way. Yeah, that's what I meant. Let's try it and that'll be it then I'm done Yeah, this is definitely a combination worth remembering now The thing that got me about this report besides the kind of vagaries about how much it was the damage, the type of drones, we didn't learn anything. Nothing. And then the last thing was he says Trump called Ben Solomon and said, hey, you know, the economies are going to be affected by this. That's not a phone call he's going to make. And that was verbatim, I'm sure.

06:28 This is bullcrap. But if you read, so here's the New York Times, the attacks immediately escalated tensions, even as key questions remain unanswered. Where the drones were launched from and how the Houthis managed to hit facilities deep in Saudi territory some 500 miles from Yemeni soil. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo accused Iran of being behind what he called an unprecedented attack on the world's energy supply and asserted that there was quote, no evidence the attacks came from Yemen. He did not however specify an alternative launch site and the Saudis themselves refrained from pointing the finger directly at Iran.

07:04 I just have a real problem with the drone part. I can't tell you anything else about it. Any other truths in this or untruths? What drones swarm apparently, a swarm of drones with I guess C4 charges auto-homed 500 miles? I'm just as baffled as you are and it was the first thing that came to mind is what kind of reporting is this? We do have one guy who's in Saudi Arabia that... Yes. that did give us a report, I'm reluctant, as I mentioned earlier before the show, to mention his name. Yeah, let's not do that.

07:45 But we can read what he sent to us. He's a very one of our best producers. Yes, I have it here. Gents, hope this makes it in time for the conversation today indeed. Information beyond the news still kind of sorting itself out but looking at the drone attack on the Ramco sites, I chatted with some local colleagues and have actually we're not doing this right. I just the way that CBS report just went We have to have sound effects. I heard this in the background, they had that. Machine guns. Well no, we need drones. Drone effects. There we go.

08:25 Both sites are in the eastern region of the kingdom. Qurayz, I think, Qurayz is about 100 kilometers east of Riyadh and Abqaiq, A-B-Q-A-I-Q is closer to the coast. One of my friends, a local here, showed me a video he found on YouTube ostensibly uploaded by a guy in Kuwait. The clip shows a night scene and what sounds like a jet flying over. He claims that that's one of the drones that was launched from inside Iraq and headed from Saudi Arabia. Sounds like there were four that he heard and I'm assuming those would be part of the apparently ten drones that were sent out Reported by the news here if it was a jet it may have been a cruise missile vice drone I'm familiar with this model cruise missile vice drone since Iran has transferred slash sold Shabab cruise missiles to the Yemen Houthis and

09:16 I'm not an unmanned aerial vehicle expert though and could be wrong. Sure, truth is out there. We'll keep poking around. I know our clients have been busying out east working to secure pipelines, etc. Yes, another good reason not to mention his name. So this is a little different. Sounds like it was a jet, like a cruise missile. Yeah, a cruise missile is not the same as a drone. No. But a cruise missile would have blown up the entire facility. Yeah, you'd think. You'd think it would. It all depends on the load, on the charge, the payload, the bomb. Well, yeah, if it was carrying nothing and just fuel, it would do what it did, but I don't know. It's vague. And nobody's helping here. So, well, let's see who benefits. Oil traders. Okay. Well, they've been looking for this for a while. I mean, this does come as a gift from the heavens for the commodity boys.

10:16 This also benefits the United States. As our exports are now valuable? Well, that A and B, apparently China, according to this guy Kyle Bass, who I've been following very closely, I don't have a clip from him today, but he's the one who's looking at China very closely. And China's oil imports have just skyrocketed over the last few years and they're They're really and they're paying more than they should and now you can actually kind of column collapse the economy but it wouldn't do do the many good if the prices of oil skyrocketed we could probably take it.

10:52 Because we have most of our stuff's internally produced. But the world market would jack up, the prices would jack up and the next thing you know the Chinese would be under the gun again. So what the hawks are saying is, oh well this is it, this is our reason to go to war with Iran. I don't really see that. And so that's another group that would benefit. The douchebag neocons. The douchebag guys. The drone again. Well, eventually the truth will come out. Yeah, in a report. In a report, yeah. Well, you know...

11:35 could be anybody, but if this is the story that they're going to hold on to... Oh, the Russians make out too, let's don't forget that. They make out with their exports, sure. But if this is the story they're going to hold on to, then we should be really worried about this drone swarm with incredible range capability. Someone's got to... What are they using? Are they... jeez. I mean, it goes through... Oh, also our military-industrial complex might benefit as perhaps We need a... Oh, you know, think of the timing of this. So we have... Iron Dome! Well, hold on. We have the little... So these apparently are smallish drones, a swarm of ten. Do you remember it was... How was it? Maybe a couple months ago that drones were showing up at airports and shutting down the airports for

12:25 24, 48 hours where they tried to find them and I think there are some drone catching technologies that have been touted in the recent past. Yes, netting. Yeah, well there's the nets, there's the microwave where you can essentially zap it and then bring it down and land it and you know I like the nets myself I think that's cooler to see some net go deploy snag a drone. Well Snag a drone, snag a drone, everybody wants to snag a drone. I guess we'll just have to see what comes out. I find this very odd that it's so, it's just tossed away so cavalierly. Oh yeah, some drones, we're not quite sure, 500 miles, happens all the time. Can you imagine? It's like droning Los Angeles from San Francisco. Yeah.

13:18 Yeah, think about the White House. These things snuck under the radar, presumably our radar. Don't we sell all our stuff to the Saudis? I think so, yeah. That's a good point. Yeah, the White House would be vulnerable from Baltimore. More info needed. I would be remiss to not say that I'm very sad that Eddie Money died. Yeah, and money. Yeah, he's such a good guy or was it you used to play in Berkeley free at this one bar for Probably ten years before he got discovered. Yeah, he had a kind of a comeback in Like 80s 88 I think and he came to MTV and it's such a nice guy his family's all cops and firemen and and

14:10 Well, you know about the coma, right? I think so. Refresh my memory. Sounds familiar. What happened is, and it kind of ruined his career, that's why he had to make a comeback, because everyone, what happened to Eddie Money? Eddie Money got some bad coke, that's believed that's what it was, or something, he ingested something and went into a coma for a year. Yeah, I do recall that and he was out of commission. He was just in the hospital for a year was kind of like a Who's the repetit Jackie Wilson Wilson Jackie Wilson went to a coma and stayed in a coma and died in a coma and he was one of the real

14:53 great rock and roll or early rock and rollers from the 60s But Eddie money the same thing looked like it almost happened to him He was out for a year and then he had to make a comeback and he had to it was harsh I remember he's partially paralyzed the part of his face never came back. It's a little joke. Yeah, and so but he's always said that that sexy gravelly Exactly From probably from polyps. Well, he died of esophageal cancer. Yeah Anyway, I'm just sad 70. That's a little young for Eddie. Although he probably lived 15 years past this time you think about it Including taking the one year away probably did. Okay. Yeah. Yeah So we got back last night Around 10 back. Where'd you go? Ah, Tina took me to Vegas after the show Thursday. I

15:52 What, should you drive? Well, almost. You could drive from Austin. We almost did. Now, she had scored tickets to Bruno Mars. And so, and... Oh, was that first place? And second place was two tickets to Bruno Mars? Oh, you're so funny. And we had We got hooked up by Dame Angela there in Las Vegas. She got us a basically a comp room, one night comp and one night reduced rate at the Cosmopolitan, the hippest hotel on the strip ladies and gentlemen. You're required to say that for the free room. Yeah I don't think so and I'll tell you why in a moment because they'll never give me a free room again.

16:39 But we almost did wind up driving because we went out, we went nice and early, you know, the show, you and I were done on time, we got out there, we had at least an hour and a half, we didn't have pre-check so we needed a little bit of extra time, for some reason that didn't show up. And then, so it's six o'clock and then we get a, she gets a text message, oh I'm sorry your flight is delayed until 930. I'm like, we're not gonna sit at the airport for three and a half hours, so okay. Yay! We're ten minutes away. I was like, we'll pop back, we can watch the, at least an hour of the debate, which I was gonna miss, and we're almost home, and the text comes back, oh sorry, your flight's on time after all. Which meant we had, you know, about 37 minutes to get back and get to the gate through the no pre-check

17:33 TSA checkpoints. I thought you paid money, good money for pre-check. Yeah, well you just don't get always get it. You know, you can... On a scam. ...money and bitch all you want, you don't always get it. So needless to say we did make it, that worked. Then we got to the hotel. You know, by the way, people should know this. Just because it says it's delayed, there's two things that happen when a flight gets delayed. And then just a little quick little tourist tip. Two things happen. One, you look up, you start talking to people and you find that this delay is bull crap. It's not a half an hour delay. It's gonna be hour, two hour, three hour delay. But they keep giving you, they want to keep you near the gate. The other one is when they do a long delay

18:19 And then they pull the plug on it, this can happen, this happens all the time. Oh we got lucky, we took a new plane, we got a new plane, and we're gonna be leaving in an hour before we said we would. And what are you supposed to do? You gotta stick around, you can't just do what you did, which is the logical thing to do, which is go back home. And we only lived, as I said, 10 minutes from the airport, but by this time we're going back, it's six o'clock, we hit rush hour traffic. So it got a little interesting there. Yeah, it's a little white-knuckly. So we check in, we're at the check-in for the hotel, and the check-in lady says, oh, I'm going to upgrade you. Oh, well, this is great! Vegas is starting off perfect, yes. Yes, we're upgrading you to a one-bedroom suite. Like I'm a high roller, baby!

19:10 And it's the second time it's happened, it's the disabled suite. You know, which has closets that hang your clothes about waist high. If you're in a wheelchair, this is great room. But you know, the shower I have to bend over to get in there. Have you been in this disabled suite more than once? We talked about it on the show, I don't know, a couple months ago it happened. I can't remember that, but I've never seen one of those suites. But they call it an upgrade. I was like, I should have called down and said, excuse me, did you run out of disabled people to upgrade? Surely there's someone with a hump or half a leg who could use this better than I can. Or maybe, and this is the scary part, they looked at me and went, damn we should give this guy a disabled suite.

20:04 Were you chicken away? Were you blinking and winking? Maybe, possibly. I was just terezzing around like put him over in that room we don't want him anywhere near us. So it's just it's very odd. You know I'm sure they have to fill up the rooms and there's some there's some logic behind it. It's algorithms. But why would you I mean it's not an upgrade for me. It's Yeah, so you get a little more space and you can everything's got handles your bum I mean again if you're disabled I can totally dig the vibe of this suite But if you're not it's just it makes no sense and moreover no one else could use this over me. I don't understand This was also my first trip in Vegas with my hearing aids. This was this was over stimulation to the max

20:55 I never thought about it, but you're right. Vegas is noisy. Yeah, and I think especially the Cosmopolitan is, and I don't know, maybe it's me that, is it just that they've ramped it up more? And again, it's with the hearing aids. You have to, the way I have my hearing aids programmed, it sounds like this podcast. Everything in my ear sounds great. You know, it's nice compression. sounds perfect, but when you throw slot machines and people and music and all this at it, it sounds like I'm listening to a recording of someone reporting on Vegas. It's just one big massive noise and very confused, very disorienting, overstimulation. Moreover, the... You said it twice. What did I say? Moreover. Well, if you say moreover, automatically it means once again.

21:45 The Mr. Olympia conference was in town. Oh! Now you're talking. 45,000 muscled people. Muscle-bound dudes. And, oh, no, no, couples. And women. Couples! Oh yeah, everywhere. Oh, couples? I didn't know that was a competition. Oh my goodness. Yeah, they're all jacked up. And they seem very nice, I mean, but... Sure they are. It's a hobby. It's a little intimidating. Tina's like, I don't think I'm gonna go work out this morning. Why not? Well, you know, these Olympia people will be in there. Who the hell wants to work out near them? You just feel like shit. Yeah. Well, that's interesting. Were they in the elevators or at the same hotel? Oh, yeah. All over our hotel. Everywhere. And but some big ass people, you know, just yes, you can get pretty big if you make that life.

22:41 And speaking of sport, she did it again, the keeper. Got the two of us into basically one carry-on bag. I don't know how she does it. That's how she got her name, but man, she should do a YouTube tutorial on how to pack. Especially how to pack, how women should pack. Yeah, I can't pack like that. They're the major offenders. It's not an offense. Tina's like, well get the small suitcase. I'm like, well I don't mind sleeping in a bigger one. She says, no! Okay, then I figured, oh yeah, she loves it. She loves doing this. It's a sport and she succeeds.

23:18 It's amazing. Ah, my talented wife. So you, so how is Vegas? Vegas is, uh, besides noisy. What did you do about it? Did you just turn down the hearing aids? Did you have your program? Oh yeah, no. Yeah, I went to a very narrow band program, so I had to filter everything out so you can basically just hear someone talking next to you and everything else is kind of like in a din. Bruno Mars was fantastic. This was at the park. The MGM the Park Theater, it's like 4,000 seater. Yeah, I think they have boxing matches in there. Yeah, what a gig that guy has, man. He shows up in his basketball shorts, his baseball cap, does an hour and a half. The crowd loves it, it's fantastic, tight. These guys hit after hit. It's just millions and millions of dollars. You know, I was talking to Dame Angela, she says the money they make on alcohol alone covers anything they pay him.

24:17 And Vegas, you cannot get a drink for under $18 of anything with alcohol. Anywhere. What? $18 is the minimum. You play the slot machines, they give you free glasses of cognac. No, no, yeah. Maybe in the high rollers. That's over. Those days are over. No, there's no more free booze when you're playing the slots. Nope. Nope, nope, nope. No. It's crazy expensive. I mean, obviously we're on the strip, so that makes sense, but still. The hell? Don't really have a need to go back was our feeling. Hmm And it didn't get to the restaurants you told me about Although I did find out that the I was right the Waldorf Astoria, which is a new hotel In Vegas used to be the Oriental the Mandarin. Oh the Mandarin is like flopped. Yeah, that didn't work I don't know if this Waldorf is gonna work either. It doesn't look shitty like the original looks too nice. I

25:14 The Waldorf in New York is a dive. I mean, I think so at least whenever I've been there. Well, I was there once, maybe twice and it's shabby is the only way you can describe it. And it's got a lot of old gold leaf and it's flaked off. I mean, this is kind of, to me, I'm always reminded of the colors gold and black. And it's just had, but it is the hotel that's got that underground railroad track that Frank Roosevelt used to come in in a special armored train car. And then they, it is an elevator, takes you right into the hotel.

25:55 Yes. And for years I guess reporters couldn't understand how Roosevelt was getting in and out of the hotel. Well, I guess they figured it out. Yeah. I wanted to bring an update on the vape wars and then I would love to hear from you about the debate. I was able to Watch some of it before we took off and you know you have the Southwest Wi-Fi in flight. I couldn't watch it, but eventually I was able to get an audio stream just the radio some radio station was broadcasting it so I heard I could not really experience all of it. It seemed.

26:35 What I heard was like kind of more the same, I guess. I'm sure there were some gotcha moments. Oh, there was just this. Well, it was more than I was kind of surprised and I wish I had this clip, which was one of the CNN people or I think it was CNN. We said, well at least there wasn't a, you know, at least they focused on the issues. They really got down to brass tacks on the issues instead of just bashing Trump. Yeah. I can't believe they still call it... And all I heard was, all they did was bash Trump. I can't believe they still call it a debate. Let me do this, this vape update first. Because there are a couple of developments to talk about the vape wars and the first one I mean we've done a couple reports on it and I like that the no agenda show is now becoming a show prep for other podcasts. Welcome back everybody it's Wealth Power and Influence so glad you're here. I'm Jason Stapleton with me as always is Matt. We'll be talking a little bit about the debate today. We'll be laughing at some of the people who are in it.

27:30 And then we're going to talk a little bit if we have some time about the vaping industry. Amy came in this morning while we were doing show prep and played about a 20 minute clip from what was the name of the podcast? No Agenda. No Agenda podcast where they were talking about the vaping industry. Now I love when a guy goes, what was the name of that? You know the name! Don't pretend. What was the name of that podcast? I can't remember. What was it? I used to do that all the time. Here is the latest from Utah as the PR continues all we have to do is just keep discrediting vapes. Grant Hiller owner of IVAPES says he became deeply concerned after representative Paul Ray's press conference on Wednesday. Out of the 12 bottles 10 tested positive for opioids, PCP, barbiturates,

28:23 And they're talking about vape juice, not about THC capsules or anything. Vape juice from the store! The fact that they were done with the ready strip tests shows me that there was a different agenda than transparency in public health yesterday. John? No, I don't. Maybe I do, but it doesn't ring a bell. The Ready Strip is essentially a drug test that parents can use that you tell your kid, pee in the cup and you dip the strip in and then the strip will tell you, I think by color, what kind of drugs your kid is taking. But it's not meant to dip into vape juice and then say, oh yeah, looks like there's Kratom in there. Come on.

29:25 He and Austin Healy with Peak Vape met with Beachtree Diagnostics on Thursday, the lab behind the test result. ABC4 News was allowed inside, but they asked us to turn our cameras off. I wanted to sit down and obviously be transparent and try and get some transparency out of them. I think we achieved that today. In the meeting, the owners of Beech Tree said they don't endorse the panel test, which is only 40% accurate. Ray says he acknowledged that in his press conference, but still chose to use them as a warning to the public. What I wanted people to understand is the potential there is. And you know, the funny thing is what the press is missing was the fact that as of August 8th,

30:07 The only vaping liquid allowed to be sold in the state of Utah is FDA approved and there are none. Health officials say the state has not decided how that rule would be enforced yet. Owners with Beachtree say a formal statement will be released later today. And the attorney for Beachtree Diagnostics decided not to weigh in saying in part, we've determined not to respond in a formal way regarding the comments made by Representative Ray Wednesday afternoon. Beachtree has no position either for or against vaping If you're concerned about this issue, please contact the representative to share your concerns.

30:56 like anything that's a test strip, it's usually designed for one specific purpose. And if it's designed to read residual something in P, it's a very complicated process because it has to be P, mainly because there's pH levels and certain things that the way the chemicals work, you just can't, Dip it in gasoline, you know and expect to get any kind of results So I don't know it sounds pretty you know, unless you're running this stuff through a chromatograph. It's not really Of course, I mean I just I got a report apparently vape juice contains traces of ranch hand. I mean, it's crazy. What's going on these days? well It's pretty slippery now. Here's what a couple of European publications even politico picked up on this and

31:46 Hey, how come this is missing in Europe? Where's the vaping sickness? No one's dying! Nothing's going wrong with vaping in Europe! Maybe it's because they're safer with their... with the actual THC cartridges? Could be. But for sure, there's nothing wrong with the vape juice over there. You know, in this global world, these things tend to matter a little bit. I mean... Yeah, there's a scam underneath it all. Well, we know that, obviously. I got the patent information. Oh, yeah. On the vaporizer. This was patented by Herbert A. Gilbert in 1963. That's way past due. And it expired. It's an expired patent. So it's pretty much open.

32:39 All right, let's go to the debates. You got one other thing? Yeah, well it sounds like you're not interested. No, I'm interested. I think you made your point. Well, there's a documentary about which came out in 2016 called A Billion Lives and this documentary, I have the trailer, I'll play a little bit for you then, this documentary which you know is an award winner in one of these Palm things showed how the tobacco lobby was willing, well of course that's a documentary, was willing to put a billion lives in jeopardy by trying to stop the vaping industry and it's well worth a watch. I'll just give you a couple seconds of the trailer here.

33:25 My whole life I've been told that smoking is bad. Smoking will kill you. Smokers deserve to die. I smoked for 40 years. 15 years. I'll go to my grave smoking. I pretty much thought that smoking was a thing of the past, part of history. I was wrong. Billion people dying from smoking related diseases. 70% of current smokers want to quit. You try and you fail, you try and you fail. I was shocked when I found out that many people were using new ways to quit. It's one of the biggest public health breakthroughs we've ever had. E-cigarette. A cigarette that uses electricity. E-cigarette. Kind of a savior. Alternative to lighting up. And that day I stopped. Those ways were being banned in more and more countries.

34:08 It's easier to buy a cigarette than to buy an e-cigarette. That makes no sense. Governments worldwide are the biggest shareholders in the revenue of cigarettes. Dangerous! E-cigarettes and the public health community is lying about those. Chemicals. Dangerous! Poisonous. There's no evidence to back that up. It was a fraud. People are gonna die. We don't know. But we don't know. Chocolate. The antifreeze. And other flavors. Antifreeze, I remember that. Almost a thousand shipments. Rated my ants. How many do I have to talk about? The public needs to know the truth about these products. And they need public health people telling the truth about the risks. At least 95% less risk of smoking. Tobacco frayers! It's irresponsible. Three back SUVs. Destructive change. Illegal. You get the idea. It's a good documentary to see how the tobacco lobby was all against vaping,

34:54 And until they were the vaping industry and now it's just about getting the small guys out. Yes, okay, now I'm done. Let's talk about the debates. Well, I did want to mention that it's slipping stuff like anti-freeze into that little dialogue. That's a propagandistic neural linguistic programming trailer that should be subhorrent. Don't you remember that that was out there though? Oh, this is anti-freeze and vape juice. I remember it. I don't. I remember, I remember raping it man. Debates. So let's start with the thesis that they didn't bitch and moan about Trump. Right. At all.

35:37 So I just have some short clips. They gave them a minute or a minute and a half to open, and I have four of the opens here that are kind of interesting, the most interesting. And I don't have the whole things generally except for Kamala's. But this is, here's Beto, this debate's Beto opening. It's an honor to be on this debate stage. It is wonderful to be back in Texas, in Houston, back here at TSU. On August 3rd, in El Paso, Texas, two things became crystal clear for me and I think produced a turning point for this country. The first is just how dangerous Donald Trump is, the cost and the consequence of his presidency.

36:22 A racism and violence that had long been a part of America was welcomed out into the open and directed to my hometown of El Paso, Texas, where 22 people were killed, dozens more grievously injured by a man carrying a weapon he should never have been able to buy in the first place, inspired to kill by our president. Oh, man. He is anti-freezing Trump's vape juice. Hmm. So inspired by the president nice Don't worry they don't they apparently didn't hardly mention Trump at this debate opener Yeah, this is this is just part of the Sanders. This is the base Sanders opening Let me be blunt and tell you what you don't hear much about in Congress. I

37:13 or in the media. And that is, it goes without saying that we must and will defeat Trump, the most dangerous president in the history of this country. I'm glad they didn't bitch about Trump. No, they didn't. And so now we have, this is Kamala, and this I believe is her whole bit, and she just goes, everybody kind of introduced maybe something they were involved with, like even Beto talked about gun control, and later moaned and groaned about it, we're gonna take your guns is what the Republicans have said. But here's Kamala and her bit, and it's just all Trump. Senator Kamala Harris.

37:56 Thank you, it's great to be back at TSU. So I plan on spending tonight talking with you about my plans to address the way the way she talks I don't even have to see I promise it's what is that what is it I'm hearing I'm hearing a It's not a laissez-faire, it's a... It's a prosecutor, a district attorney. Yes. It's patronizing. Yes. Condescending. Thank you. I plan on spending tonight talking with you about my plans to address the problems that keep you up at night. But first I have a few words for Donald Trump, who we all know is watching.

38:34 So, President Trump, you spent the last two and a half years full time trying to sow hate and division among us. And that is why we've got nothing done. You have used hate, intimidation, fear, and over 12,000 lies as a way to distract from your failed policies and your broken promises. Hold on, hold on. What 12,000 lives? I didn't understand that. 12,000 lies. Oh, lies. I thought lives. The documented lies. Is it 12,000? Is this the official number? I'm unaware. Failed policies and your broken promises. The only reason you've not been indicted is because there was a memo in the Department of Justice that says the sitting president cannot be charged with a crime. But here's what you don't get.

39:23 What you don't get is that the American people are so much better than this. And we know that the vast majority of us have so much more in common than what separates us, regardless of our race, where we live, or the party with which we're registered to vote. And I plan on focusing on our common issues, our common hopes and desires, and in that way unifying our country, winning this election, and turning the page for America And now President Trump, you can go back to watching Fox News. Now, I give her a point for saying our country. I give her a point for that. You don't hear that often from a Democrat. 12,000 lies comes from Washington Post. Or Trump has made more than 12,000 false or misleading claims. 12k lives matter, man.

40:11 Now we go to what the one guy didn't really bash Trump or spent too much time on bashing Trump. Everybody else did, which is Gandhi's weakens their whole position, but that's okay. Let them do what they want. But this one I thought was really rude. This was Andrew Yang who comes out and he, and he's for, he starts off by, By suggesting he's gonna if you go to a Andrew Yang 2020 dot-com or org one of the two you can sign up and maybe be one of the Thousand ten people ten people that will get a thousand dollars a month for a year to see what you can do with it This was highly anticipated because he had been telegraphing mainly on podcast the only place that he can still be heard that he was going to do something big something unexpected and

41:03 I think it was completely expected. He's the universal basic income candidate and his idea was to show people that you can really make it, you can be great if I give you a thousand dollars a month, but it wasn't reported anywhere I saw as linking back to the universal basic income. They saw it purely as a campaign stunt. It wasn't picked up properly by the press. Well, the press was going along with the program because the Democrats starting on the other side of the all the way over he was on the far right on the far left the most furthest left was Amy Klobuchar and she started giggling and Then Cory Booker was pretty much laughing out loud, but he had turned away from the mic But he was good falling over there and then I

41:54 Cam Camala was it sounds like Camala laughing but for what I could tell it was really that other group and it was it's Amy Klobuchar whose laugh sounds a lot like Camala's. So she was laughing at Yankee? You'll hear it. You'll hear it. In America today every time. Wait, wait, wait. Yeah, I'm waiting. She's laughing. Cory Booker said something to her, I'm sure of it, because they showed a long shot and they showed her cracking up and Booker turning his face away from the camera so he couldn't hear him. And then Buttigieg is next to them and he's cracking up, yuck, yuck, and he finalizes it with some comment to kind of quell the joke that nobody knew about. It was really, I thought, incredibly rude.

42:42 Huh, well you know they're really just laughing at poor people. That could be the element. Ha ha, you suckers. In America today everything revolves around the almighty dollar. Our schools, our hospitals, our media, even our government. It's why we don't trust our institutions anymore. We have to get our country working for us again instead of the other way around. We have to see ourselves as the owners and shareholders of this democracy rather than inputs into a giant machine. When you donate money to a presidential... Did someone throw up the Yelp like a hyena sign? I have no idea what that was. Giant machine. When you donate money to a presidential campaign, what happens? The politician spends the money on TV ads and consultants and you hope it works out. It's time to trust ourselves more than our politicians. That's why I'm going to do something unprecedented tonight.

43:38 My campaign will now give a freedom dividend of $1,000 a month for an entire year to 10 American families. Someone watching this at home right now. If you believe that you can solve your own problems better than any politician, go to yang2020.com and tell us how $1,000 a month will help you do just that. This is how we will get our country working for us again, the American people. May I repeat, Buddha judge? She's high again! It's original, I'll give you that. The American people are divided. Wow! They know exactly what he's doing. That was rude. They know his whole program. That was unbelievably rude. Geez. Okay. Well.

44:37 I was very taken aback by that. That's your Democrat brethren, Yangy. Jeez. So then we had this little back and forth. Here's a couple of short clips here. This is a... This is where Biden calls, he's pointing, it's talking to Sanders and he's pointing at Sanders he's talking about and he calls Sanders the president. Taxpayer, I hear this, large savings. The president thinks, my friend Vermont thinks that the employer is going to give you back if you negotiate his union all these years, got to cut in wages because you got insurance. But wait a minute, this happened before. What, he called Sanders the president? No, he called

45:19 He called Booker the president. This happened before. I don't know that. I don't remember that. It was in the early days. Two debates ago. I'll see if I can find it while you continue. And then Castro goes ageism and he would Castro screwed himself. He's out of the race now after he went after Biden for supposedly forgetting something. Biden Castro thought Biden said something. that Biden didn't say and everybody documented this and all the news media got all over Castro about it. Okay, here's what I read just not having seen this part. That he, that apparently Biden said something and then Castro said, what you don't remember what you just said two minutes ago? And then he kept on hammering about it. I didn't know that it was, to me, I'm sure Joe Biden said something completely dumb that he, that contradicted himself. In this case, no. Wow.

46:16 Castro just heard something that didn't exist and he started hounding Biden about it and he did it in such a way that was again incredibly rude and he's trying to make points that Biden's an old fogey, doesn't remember anything and so this is what it sounded like from the Castro side. You just said that two minutes ago. You just said two minutes ago that they would have to buy in. Are you forgetting what you said two minutes ago? The crowd clearly thought he was not doing something good there. No. And so that was very very rude and then we have

46:59 We have, this is Beto on immigration. I don't remember what this is actually about, but just play it. Hold on, I'm looking for it. You changed it. It debates Beto on immigration. Oh, that's odd. Debates Beto on immigration. Oh, here it is. Yes, sorry. But I think the larger question that we're trying to get at is how do we rewrite this country's immigration laws in our own image? In the image of Houston, Texas, the most diverse city in the United States of America. In the image of El Paso, Texas, one of the safest cities in the United States of America. Safe, not despite the fact that we are a city of immigrants, safe because we are a city of immigrants. We know that if we want to secure our communities and our country, we need to treat each person with respect and dignity.

47:52 So, so Beto, for one thing he says we got to rewrite the immigration laws in our own image. What does that mean? It sounds biblical. And then he says we have to rewrite the immigration laws in Houston's image. He's speaking in tongues I tell you. What's wrong with him? There's something wrong with that guy. Now, in terms of something wrong with the guy, I do have this. This is not a debate. It says Joe Biden. This is Joe Biden. This is an ISO, a suggested ISO. Out of the blue, Joe Biden says you should put your kids to sleep and play the record player. Make sure you have the record player on at night.

48:36 Yeah, now this got a lot of action. The record player. This got a lot of action. I wonder how many people in the audience even know what a record player is. Well, I saw Simone Sanders, who is the special consultant. Now she ran Bernie's campaign last time around. Now she with Joe Biden. And I had no way to clip this. I think it was on Joy Reed was filling in or something. Just saw it in the hotel. And she was saying, oh, you don't know about the vinyl vote? That's their witty comeback, is apparently there's a vinyl vote. People who like vinyl records. As if Joe is familiar with this. The vinyl vote. More like final vote for him. Is he still the front runner? Yeah, of course. So, the last two clips are both the Kamala Harris and she's going off on... Kamala Harris on Medicare. Okay, hold on.

49:34 Everybody on this stage, I do believe, is well-intentioned and wants that all Americans I gotta hear that again. Everybody on this stage, I do believe, is well intentioned and wants that all Americans have coverage and recognizes that right now 30 million Americans don't have coverage. But at least five people have talked some repeatedly on this subject and not once have we talked about Donald Trump. Oh, I was thinking we need to load Joe up with some more anachronisms like, would you like to take a picture with your Kodak disc? You know, we got to have some more things like that. There's more stuff. He wouldn't even know a Kodak disc during the era of the Kodak disc. Maybe he'd say take a picture with the brownie.

50:26 the Louboutin. So here's Kamala's follow-up to her, we don't talk about Trump enough. No, no, not at all. So let's talk about the fact that Donald Trump came into office and spent almost the entire first year of his term trying to get rid of the Affordable Care Act. We all fought against it and then the late great John McCain at that moment at about two o'clock in the morning killed his attempt to take health care from millions of people in this country. Fast forward to today and what is happening. Donald Trump's Department of Justice is trying to get rid of the Affordable Care Act. Donald Trump's administration is trying to get rid of the ban that we placed on denying people who have pre-existing conditions coverage.

51:22 That's all she does. And then again we go back to the CNN pundit who says, well at least they didn't talk about Trump. Thank goodness. Yeah, that would have been horrible. And that's kind of it. It was I got no real I mean I think Castro's I think everybody's pretty much out of it except for the big four That's my ISO of the day so Joe Biden and and he's still the front-runner Warren yeah, this is a great part. This is the great They just wanted, the Democrat party has decided he's gonna be the guy and the vice president will be the one who takes over and get in next. So it's gonna be interesting how they're gonna make this ticket. Julian Castro was thought of as one of the potential vice presidents, but he's done now after this ridiculous display of arrogance. So here's the omission that is obvious and I think it's been obvious from the reports. It's been obvious from your summary report.

52:25 Nothing from Liz? She was, this was supposed to be her moment to, you know, to outshine everybody and I hear nothing. Did she not have a moment of, did she not have a zipper? Well, she did not do a Trump bashing at her opening, so I didn't get that. And she did mostly Liz stuff. Yeah. And she followed, she's all in with Bernie's Medicare for All and she was not standing out. to me. Well not to anyone apparently. It was just the same old Liz. I mean there was nothing specific that she did that was exciting. Now can you... Now why do you think that Castro is over and out just because of that? Well if it's gonna be a Biden ticket Biden's not gonna put up with a guy like that. I mean he's... But why couldn't Castro beat Joe?

53:18 Castro can't beat anybody. You'll recall when before Trump won... And by the way, stop, stop. I gotta get this. I think I gotta go get my notes on this. Castro at the end of his little beginning, he puts on this... I don't know if you ever seen it. I should go back and clip this or screen save it. Castro has the creepiest smile. It looks kind of like the Joker in the Batman movie smile It's incredibly creepy. It's when when he thinks he's done something great. He pulls that smile. I've seen it. Oh, it's creepy It is it's a maybe it's like a lizard smile reptilian perhaps could be good. He could be could be I think we both have this clip so I'll just play it since I thought I have a question about ethics and

54:06 This is Marianne Williamson who was not at the debate but who was caught on a... Hot mic, hot mic, hot mic, hot mic, hot mic. I saw last week... Actually this is the question I have about ethics. She was interviewed on Fox News and here's the guy who was interviewing her on Fox News introducing the clip that he is, you know, that was done out of context, off-air, But he's gonna make it say well she was miked. It was a hot mic so it's fair game Let's play the clip and then we'll talk about that so last week I interviewed 2020 hopeful candidate Marianne Williamson Just after the interview while still on camera with a hot mic this happened

54:48 What does it say that Fox News is nicer to me than the lefties are? I'm sorry? What does it say that the conservatives are nicer to me? It's a bizarre world, ma'am. It's such a bizarre world. You know, I'm such a lefty. I mean, I'm a serious lefty. But they're so, I understand why people on the right call them godless. I mean, it's like, I didn't think the left was as mean as the right. They are. So, I don't know. I find that this is a borderline case. I mean obviously Fox is doing this to show because she says hey the lefties are a-holes and they're mean but it's really insulting to Marianne Williamson who was dumb. You should know better and she's clearly not completely honest in her own public statements otherwise she would have said this publicly but ethically I don't think it's a very cool thing to do. What if they asked her?

55:49 Yeah, hmm. I don't know if they did of course, but what if they didn't ask her? But if they did ask her, hey can we use this clip you know well yeah sure I'm not in the thing anymore. Yeah, I think she'd probably agree with it. It must have been what happened. No, I don't think so. I don't think she agreed to it and I'm disappointed because she's... I don't hear her objecting to it. She would have come out and said something. Well, we'll keep our eye on it. But she's definitely not going to be in the fourth debate. She's out forever. She'll never even make it on CNN or MSNBC again. Ever. Probably not, but she never made it on before. I never heard of her.

56:33 So it's not as though she was kicking ass on MSNBC for years and years. No, no, but I know her from the No Agenda show. She's my favorite candidate. She was. I think she was a lot of people's favorite. But I want to mention a couple of things that are noteworthy about the debates overall. One is I don't know, but the psychological effect, this is the problem with having too many people up there all yelling at each other, yelling and overstepping their time and doing all the rest of it, is besides doing that, which makes them look like, makes them look pitch, because they can't stop talking, Biden called them out on it once, is that you're watching this thing going on, somebody's talking, and they raise their hands like they're fifth graders.

57:17 They got their hand in the air and Bernie's got his, you know, moving his hand around like a, you know, like, ugh. But everyone's holding their hand up. Call on me, teacher. Call on me, call on me. I mean, it looks juvenile. It makes them look unprecedented. I mean, you're not a president if you're holding your hand. You never saw Trump do that with all those other, he would just say something funny into the mic. Me teach, me, me, me, me, me. But you don't have these guys holding their hands up in the air and Biden, not Biden, but Bernie's the one who started that years ago, even when he was just mono a mono with Hillary Clinton last year. He'd be holding his hand up. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like he's in his sixth grade, fifth grade. Yeah, yeah, call on me, call on me.

58:03 Well, you're gonna get called on that's where you're up there. You don't have to hold your hand up How was it just for my own edification compared to the cable news guys? How did ABC do with production? Did you like production in general? I mean, I didn't hear of any audio issues. Everything looked it sounded pretty good. Everything was smooth. I thought it didn't have any flaws, if that's what you're looking for. It was more professional, yeah, than CNN. Okay. Alright. Well, Friday night, all hell broke loose on the Bill Maher show on HBO.

58:39 They had to bring out the big guns after the debate, had to bring out Michael Moore, of course. I got a couple clips here just so you can hear how the big guns... so this Michael Moore and Bill Maher together, they definitely represent a section of the Democrat party, of the Democrat voting base, and I think they, well, Bill Maher actually appears to be a little more level-headed in this as you listen to what Michael Moore is saying about the Democrats and what they stand for and what's gonna work. The country is for raising the minimum wage, of course. The country is not for Medicare for all. As soon as you ask the question, get rid of private health insurance.

59:23 I mean, Barack Obama said if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, which turned out to be not true for only 2% of the population, and the whole country went apeshit about the 2%. Now are you going to take away everybody's? Completely get rid of private... Well, even though there were so many things to fix about Obamacare... They don't like that. People don't like that. No, they like the fact that their 26-year-old can still be covered, not have to worry about... That's Obamacare. That's Obamacare. Well, they like the things about Obamacare, but it didn't go far enough. and and we've got thirty million people that are uninsured that we've got fifty more as they are underinsured that that is this daniel osie points out obama carries a better benefit the medicare for all doesn't play for paper catastrophic you gotta do that you know we're going to be trump we're going to be trump well that's not a helpful thing to say no

1:00:09 No, I'm not predicting it. We're the two guys who said Trump was going to win. And I'll say if the election were tonight, Trump would win. How about that? All right. That's how dangerous it is. Look at the same reaction when I said that three years ago. No, no, don't say that. You have to respect The evil genius of this guy. And how he gets away with it. And then he goes, he's going crazy now. The evil genius. He's using Trump's words, which is interesting how deeply embedded that is. And this... Wait a minute, the guy's supposedly a moron?

1:00:50 Who doesn't even have any money but now he's an evil genius. They did the same thing with Bush. Bush was either a moron or an evil genius of the Antichrist. I mean come on, make up your minds about these images. And the next clip here is about the squad which I think it's universally accepted that Trump has been doing a pretty good job of positioning them as the face of the new Democrat and the Democrat Party, which Logically, I think it turns off a lot of voters not according to Michael Moore though He wants to make the squad the face of the Democratic Party. I know one other person who wants to do that you yes, we'll win Let me tell you 70% of the people who are gonna vote next year are either women people of color or young adults between 18 and 35 That's 70% of the electorate women people of color young adults

1:01:49 This is the most bigoted conversation I've ever heard. He's literally saying because they're women, women love them. Because they're brown, people of color love them. Is this guy on drugs? He's bigoted!

1:02:25 Who thinks like this anymore? Oh, they're brown. People of color will love them. It's a head shaker. Of the entire electorate, not one of them has an approval rating above 25%. So you're making this up. They're not beloved, these people, because they don't believe in things that a lot of people believe in. Like what? Not medicare-for-all and people do believe in medicare-for-all people do believe it If you're out there with people this people do believe this that's why all the candidates have tried to sign on with a little When they called Nancy Pelosi a racist

1:03:02 You know, they think they go too far and I think they go too far in a number of issues. And guess what? Some young people go too far. You know, first of all, this is where we're always romanticizing the young people. Everybody looks good when they're young because they're not empowered. They don't have to make decisions. They're so perfect. They're so innocent. I mean, you know what? When they get to our age, they'll be assholes too. Michael Moore really believes the squad can do it ladies and gentlemen. The squad can do it. People love them. Women love them because they're women. People of color love them because they're brown. Come on bigot. What Mario throw weird stuff into he had this thing earlier in this first clip where he said that the Obama you can keep your own doctor thing which

1:03:53 Turned out to be bull crap. Yeah, he says that he says but it's only affected 2% of everybody That they couldn't keep their own die He's implying that only 2% of the people could all keep their own doctor. Yeah, I'm sorry Couldn't keep their own doctor. Everybody else could keep their own doctor. That's bullcrap. In California, which is a good part of the entire population of the entire country, which is more than 2%, you can't. It's all based on networks. You have to be in the network. If your doctor's not in the network, yeah, you can keep them, but you're gonna have to pay them. And in California, that's not even true. I mean, maybe in other places, but in California, because we had a, my daughter wanted to go see a dermatologist that we always used and she's part of CalCare or whatever the,

1:04:44 Obamacare network, the Obamacare implementation is in California, she's part of that. And not only did the doctor refuse to take her, I said, well what if I just pay cash to you? No! In California, it's illegal to do what? Yes Wow, I didn't realize that Yeah, if you get in other words, I got a doctor I just gonna if I was if you're not part of Cal care kid Whatever is Cali care or whatever. They call it Cal man. Oh Cal cuddles Whatever it is If you're in that system, which is the Obamacare, you can't do that. You can't pay cash. If you weren't in the system, if you were just an individual like me, you can, you can do it. But if you're part of, because they want to discourage people from going outside the network. And they'll discourage it by finding the doctor and then throwing him out.

1:05:38 So he says no no no no I can't even touch this this client. As we discussed when Obamacare was just cranking up that the insurance companies are such rat bastards that they squeeze the doctors down to 30 cents on the dollar and I have personally witnessed if you go into the doctor's office, not in California apparently, and you say you know what I'll pay cash I'll pay you 30 cents on the dollar they'll usually settle for 50. They will because they have it takes them weeks, phone calls, emails, you know, they have to show all this paperwork just to get paid. Meanwhile you've already paid your, you were basically paid for it with your deductible.

1:06:20 because that's on a hundred percent not thirty percent so you're paying for everything yourself you're paying double but that's that's legal here I had no idea that that was outlawed in California you cannot pay the doctor directly how can that be that's that's like it's is it a law or is it just the insurance company? The way the law is written. Well if you want to hear some I could look into it more and write something. Yeah, I'd like to know it's really it's really that's Because the guy refused to take the appointment you can't you can't Disallow someone from enacting legal commerce. Yeah, you can well in California everything's possible

1:07:00 everything's possible in California. Final clip just to hear some more fact-free stuff and just how off the rails this group has gone. They had that little end discussion so we have Michael Moore who's the guy that used to run the the RNC? The black guy? Yeah yeah. Steele? Yeah Steele is on a crystal ball and they're talking about What is this clip? Oh, yeah, this is this is mainly about Mueller and about you know The Mueller report and how that all fell apart and it's just funny to hear their heads explode They built up expectations so much. Yes when the report came out you were like, oh, no big deal It was like anything short of a tea tape was nothing right? Well, the person who shit the bed was Robert Mueller. Oh

1:07:55 He can't even go after the taxes? Seriously? That's your investigative technique? Don't follow the money? Why did we put our faith in a Republican? He's a Republican! I'm a Republican! What are we doing? That was the mistake on MSNBC, is making him into this hero. He was a hero. Shit the bed. Shit the bed. He indicted the campaign manager, the deputy campaign manager. He let Trump off the hook. He took a memo, a fucking memo. Not a law, not in the Constitution, just a memo. We did a whole thing on this. Remember that night? Right after it came out? Can I agree with you? But he laid it on a platter for Congress. How about if you just interviewed Trump? He didn't, Trump didn't have to sit there. The legal genius of Rudy Giuliani was able to protect Trump.

1:08:39 from being interviewed by the prosecutor. Yes, exactly. I mean, the whole thing is the taxes. The reason why he may be a Russian asset is because he's the worst businessman ever. So at a certain point, the only people who give money are the Russians. That's, you know... But Mueller didn't establish collusion per se because that's a technical term. He showed clear coordination between the campaign and the other. I think he did his job. Could he have done more? Sure. Did he do enough? Absolutely. He fucked it up. And then it comes back to MSNBC where it was so overhyped. And they're not alone, right? There are plenty of people who were involved in the overhyping of this. But then what he did find, the facts,

1:09:17 were not enough for a public that expected, like Barry said, that they were going to get the pee tape. My quick take on all of it was everything everybody said is absolutely right, but here's the rub at the end of the day. The Democrats in Congress the media allowed the Attorney General to come out and define the narrative before Right was put on the yes, so at that point folks. It didn't matter what was in the report because we were told there's nothing here What is this bullshit about like we did not find Just tell us okay You guys are out of control. They're mad and and mauler and what is this I've heard the term but where what is the etymology of shit the bed I mean where does this come from? I don't know what the etymology is but it is an old term yeah it means just you know you screwed up.

1:10:12 Well, obviously. So that's where their heads are still at. Oh, they're... yeah, you're right. One of the amygdala is too big. Now, whatever happened... now she met that crystal ball. She, you know, she works for The Hill. She does some online video stuff. She doesn't... she's lost her... Yeah, she's anti-MSNBC now that she's no longer there. Yeah, she got kicked off and she's, you know... and I think Mara brings her on because she's kind of his style cute. And... Oh, right. And he brings these women on he brings and Colter on a lot. He's got some thing about her, too But did reminded me whatever happened to that guy tour a member him. Yeah, where is tour a yeah? Yeah, okay enough thinking about it. I Only thought I think about him for a second or two tour a yeah He was the worst and he was on the show with him right he had an a he even hadn't didn't have what was that show I

1:11:11 MSNBC show. Yeah, MSNBC. MSNBC show. Toure. I don't know. He's not... Well, I see here's a former MSNBC host. Just a quick little... Oh, wait! Date line, January 11th. Former MSNBC host Toure Neblet accused of sexual harassment. I have learned and grown. Oh, he got me too'd. Oh, well that didn't get much much. Oh, interestingly, I didn't get much play at all. I don't recall it. I don't recall it. We would have recalled it if we even got a hint. We would have gloated, but no. So yes, we would have gloated. So he got me toot out. That's interesting. He got me toot the hell out of here. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in Castro is out. John C. Dvorak.

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1:13:03 with the logo and of course that was meant to play into our reporting of the new CEO of NPR who is clearly a spook and worked for the spooktacular Voice of America and Radio Free Liberty which are propaganda stations the United States operates. the broadcast board of governors. And there was, I think there was some stuff we needed to discuss because there were some other candidates. Let me just check the artwork real quick. What was the... we had a couple of... Well, there was the CIA one that O'Neill did, but I always thought that the Nick one was the best. It was a little more subtle. Yeah, it was... it just, it worked. It wasn't very subtle, but it was... It's more subtle than CIA. Well, that's true. It's more subtle than that. Yeah. There were other... there were other stuff. That was just the one that jumped out and we both liked it immediately. So...

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1:14:50 And this is the no agenda shop we just mentioned. Checking in with the latest share of our sales, $3.33 for every item we sell is donated to the show and $3.33 goes to the artist whose work is featured on that item. Thank you for doing this, a little bookkeeping involved. Thank you for delivering a priceless show that motivates me to keep the shop up as long as the realities of capitalism allow. That's three years and counting so far. Jingle request Indy L. Sharpton quote followed by that's true. And no karma? I'm gonna give him a karma because they've been operating the shop and we appreciate it. They sit out on the sidewalk sipping mint tulips. That's true. Mint tulips. Mint tulips. You've got karma. Thanks, Tony. Great work over there. Noagendashop.com. Okay, next is Heather

1:15:45 Fuchinari in Fullerton $332.33 she said please accept it she's actually sending let me see if this email differs from what she got here because she sent an email and claiming that the note wasn't taken I'll read this while you're looking for it yeah please accept this I got it please accept this payment as my last as my last towards Damehood as we close our palindrome week and ready myself to reconnect with some amazing folks we met during the infamous Orange County meetup. I thought this was the perfect time to seal the deal for five years of donations. Also, it's been a year since my last donation of 333.33, which I made in desperation of Jobs Karma. A year later, I find myself flourishing in that position. Jobs Karma works. No jingles, no karma, just a side of ayahuasca.

1:16:42 Ayahuasca? What is ayahuasca? He said what is ayahuasca? Don't worry I'll put it at the round table. Just stay away from it, it's not for you. At the already bountiful round table, please anoint me Dame Swagger Prance of the Orange Curtain. 73's Heather KK6MME. Ah 73's Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie with a twist of goat. You've got Karma. Ayahuasca. No jingles nor karma, she asked for, by the way. No, she said she... I thought she wanted a karma. No, no jingles, no karma. Well, I'm sorry, I can't take it back now. I don't know how you'd take it back. I can't. I can't. I've ruined it for her. We do this. That karma was for David Julian. Congratulations. For $333. No, he says NJNK. He doesn't want karma. Oh, he doesn't want it either. No.

1:17:35 Email sent to Adam kisses Sir Julian Earl of the South Bay and autonomous cars. You have the email. Let me see. I believe I do. You should send the email to both of us. Yeah, no, I don't see it. I know that I forward everything that comes in to Eric. So no, I don't see this. I'm sorry. I do not see a note from him. Well, oh, what's David Julian? I'm sorry. That'll make it a little easier. Let's try. Who knows how the hell these systems work? No, all I have is notes from the shill saying he would send the note. I don't have it. Sorry. So send it again David Ryan Brady's next on the list with the $234 and 56 cents two three four five six in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

1:18:29 Here's the lowdown on the Pittsburgh meetup provided with the donation because I felt bad rambling too much without chipping in. I flew a bit too close to the sun trying to combine a soccer game and a bar meetup into one so the day before we decided just to go to the same bar where producer Emma held the inaugural meetup, we ended up with 10 people, nine adults and the first child attendee in Pittsburgh meetup history. Even though four of the nine adults were attending there, everybody take notes. Even though four of the nine adults were attending their first meetup within 10 minutes, we were all talking and laughing like we had known each other for years. There's something truly magical about the people bonding over calling one another douchebags. Especially when I had to own up to hitting my mother in the mouth during a car ride back from Nashville. Doug Fittler was kind enough to provide the high-res heads on sticks

1:19:20 So we got some great group photos with both of you in them. We also informally decided to make the meetup on a periodically occurring event and are going to keep the notebooks we brought for letters to you two until we fill them up, then send them. I think my fellow Pittsburgh producers from both meetups are with me wholeheartedly in expressing our gratitude for the show and what it has grown into. Hell, I even got a new shooting range buddy out of this meetup. Oh good. I'll go to Pittsburgh to go shooting. Think about this though. There's 10 people who not only like the No Agenda show in Pittsburgh enough to come out to a meetup, but also like soccer. This is some news right here. I find it distressing personally. I think it's great. It's probably a smart idea they went back to the original venue. These things kind of tend to stick unless the

1:20:16 Unless the venue was really bad for some reason, but I'm glad you guys are gonna happen. We had a pretty good one in Oakland, we're never going back. Sir Peter the high-powered vanilla ham in Amsterdam, Noord. Hammerheads. The high-powered vanilla hammerheads. Well, I guess ham. Hammerheads. 233.33 from Holland. And he says, dear guardians of reality, From behind the great Chinese firewall, oh he's in China, I finally had it. My smoking hot girlfriend's douchebaggery must stop now.

1:20:54 At first she thought the show was lame. I support, yeah, show is lame. That show is lame. I support your advice to never mention the show on any first date. But now she keeps me awake with her laughter and comments until I, she hasn't, even though she hasn't supported the show. So in other words, it was lame, but now she thinks it's hilarious. Which it is. This must come to an end. Currently we are on a four-week cycling trip in China, Yunnan and Tibet. Whoa! And almost everything is firewalled. Wait a minute, wait a minute. This is like hikers in China. Are these guys spooks? Yeah, we're cycling. Well, maybe they're... well, if they're cycling near the North Korean border, I'd be more suspicious. But no, I know people that do this sort of thing. Let's go to China and cycle.

1:21:46 I'm sure our producers don't sound like that. Well, they can't hear us anyway because they're under their firewall. Yeah, so hard to get some decent information is beautiful, by the way, and the people are nice. That's true. That's true. Love and light. Sir Pete at the high power vanilla hammerheads and Dame to become Inga, I think I can't read it, consult, weird characters. It's true China asshole, asshole, yeah, true China asshole and goat karma. Now, I wanna mention something, people going to China. In China, it's, and I've said this on the show before, but apparently nobody listens to every show and every minute of it. When you're in China, or most of these Asian countries,

1:22:37 Make sure you have a little notebook and you carry that and you have people write stuff in Chinese on it. In other words, you're at a hotel, you go to the concierge, say I'm gonna go here, here, here, and here, and here, and they have them write it in Chinese on different pages. and then you have a little note at the bottom saying what it is, like the store, and then they have it right. And then you use that notepad to get around because in China itself, they don't all speak the same language. It's all dialects and they can't understand each other necessarily. But they all have the same written language. So it's very common for even Chinese to use this trick of having the notepad full of little notes, it has to be small, and you hold it up to it like a taxi cab driver and you just show it to him. And he's fine, he's good to go.

1:23:20 The more you know in the morning. That's true. China is asshole! You've got karma. Kevin Benson, Australia. $230. Long time Overboard producer with 666 so far putting in Australian 333 and a few pennies to make the final jump into sanity would love a little girl yay to mark this moment. Is he going to be knighted? Is he on the list? Yeah, he's being knighted today. Yep. He's on the list? Uh, well, he's blue. I thought he was on the list. Let me just double check. This marks my move out of Sydney to better places and more time for listening to No Agenda as I move to Kiama in the south of Sydney. Don't know where that is. I would like to claim Sir Kevin or something.

1:24:16 Protector of Kiama blowhole. Yes, it's he's on the list. Kiama blowhole. Did you look it up? No, I've not looked it up, but he's on the list. I didn't look up his Kiama blowhole. I'm not going to look up any blowhole. I saw there was a blowhole in Iceland. It's fascinating. There's a blowhole is generally something where a bunch of water rushes in and it's not a geyser per se, which is caused by boiling water. It's just so tide comes in and blowhole shoots the water. I'm looking at it now. Apparently it's dangerous. This is a dangerous blowholes are always dangerous. Yeah, yeah. Kiyama blowhole just sounds lewd.

1:25:02 It does. No special favors to include. I eat most things that fall on the floor. I'm also a cheap drunk, but I do call out Bruce Johnson of Cape Town, South Africa as a douchebag. He listens, he keeps all his ran tightly stuffed up his ass. With friends like that. Well, Kevin, we'll see you at the roundtable and I guess we'll just leave some scraps on the floor for you to enjoy along with your hookers and blow. Kevin Benson, $233. Next one.

1:25:46 Sir Andrew, protector of the bound book in Ann Arbor, Michigan, $222.22. Sir Andrew of the bound book here, nudging over ever closer to Baronet, would be grateful for a booster of health karma to get past some nagging issues. Thanks for all the hard work, gentlemen. You bet. Here it is, Sir Andrew. You've got karma. Last but not least is Daniel Roberts, $211.20 from the US, parts unknown. This is my first executive producer contribution ever and I've been on a modest subscription for a few years now with larger contributions interspersed throughout. This shows value to me is far greater than I've been able to budget for. First, I'd greatly appreciate a Jobs car with a dash of goat as my current gig has been pretty tough lately.

1:26:36 I sent both of you the investigate Childerberg shirt. He is our guy. That Adam mentioned Thursday and I'd like to offer a bit of explanation. Childerberg is a small annual weekend camping event that will be at Emma Long Metro Park in Austin, Texas May 23rd to 26th on 2020. You have to go. How could I not? It's open to any self-identified lover of liberty. No, no, no, maybe not. Regardless of political affiliation. It will coincide with the Libertarian National Convention in Austin. You have to go to that. And there will be a bit of crossover. I'm gonna be busy. While the Libertarian Party nerds are playing third string politics, we'll be grilling and having a good time. And now you're talking. Supplies last. Free to chill, Childer Burgers, but we'll be accepting donations for free

1:27:32 F-R-E-E-R-O. Free Ross.org. He's the... Ross Ulbricht, the Bitcoin drug platform. What was that called again? Oh, I forgot. Oh, I've forgotten too. Adam, if you want to swing by for some burgers or even camp tonight... Silk Road. You can camp tonight in Austin anywhere. There will be at least a handful of producers in attendance that I know of who already would love so much to see you, maybe enough for an impromptu meetup. John, we'd love to have you too if you wanted to make the trek. Anyways, at Childerberg on Twitter. Yes, yes I actually did look this up because I saw people were tweeting and mentioning me in there, you know, tagging me about Childerberg and how funny it was that, of course, oh, list of the old guy, didn't know what it was about. You and Biden. Yeah, it seemed, can I bring my record player?

1:28:32 Sounds like a pretty fun event if we're gonna be you know throwing some burgers on and and and hanging out I'm not gonna camp but I can definitely go and visit I don't know how far the metro part it's not that far and get there yeah for sure I'll go I'll represent that should be fun the Silk Road was Ross Ulbricht's Bitcoin platform remember I even bought drugs off of there with Bitcoin don't you remember we did all that Hello? Yes, you did. I remember that. You never told us what the drugs were. Well, no, I don't want to go to jail. Or didn't at the time at least. Well, anyway, thank you Daniel. And you become an associate executive producer along with your other cohorts and of course our one, two, it's pretty even keeled here. We got three executive producers. Very nice. These are valuable credits because they're real. You can use them anywhere. Credits are recognized.

1:29:29 and we suggest putting those on your profile, certainly on your LinkedIn profile. You are executive producer or as it is associate executive producer of the No Agenda podcast, you can say No Agenda Show, episode 1173 and we thank you for your courage and anyone who wants to be in this illustrious lineup for Sunday show can do so by going to... Sudvorak.org slash N-A. Well now at least we know what Childerberg is. You can go out tell everybody as you propagate the formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. As the war on the homeless continues, it looks like in Austin, the people of Austin are making some headway. So council members Ann Kitchen and Kathy Tovo submitted one plan and then council member Greg Kassar and Mayor Steve Babler submitted another plan. But the biggest takeaway from both plans is that there are more agreements here than differences. So both plans

1:30:46 will limit sitting, lying or camping on sidewalks in busy parts of downtown like 6th Street and Congress Avenue and around some of the homeless shelters. But the Kitchen Tovo plan takes it a bit farther and includes the drag in parts of UT's West Campus. It also includes parts of East Austin like 11th and 12th Streets. I spoke with both council members, Kitchen and Tovo, and Kitchen tells me this all boils down to ensuring safety for everyone. that it is okay to camp or even sit and lie in areas that are not safe is not good for anyone. consider that. It's not discriminatory. The plan that Councilmember Kassar and Mayor Adler support is based off a 2010 map. It shows where people can't ride their bikes on sidewalks. Now this map is primarily focused on the downtown area so it doesn't really include any restrictions in West Campus apart from a section of the drag or in areas in East Austin. Mayor Adler tells me he knows the map is outdated but he says it's still a good starting point.

1:31:49 The city's identified sidewalks that have so much traffic on them that they shouldn't have bicycles on them. How sick is all this? Hold on a second. Are these people named, just the way I heard it, Kitchen, somebody's named Kitchen, Tobo and Kassar. I mean, is there any normal names in Austin, Texas? Where did somebody named Kitchen come from? I don't recognize... you heard the name kitchen? Yeah, Kitchen and Tobo. That's what I heard. I only know, I know our... Play the beginning of the clip again and maybe I got it wrong. Our council member is Pio. Let me see, Kitchen. Pio is another one. No, no, it's Ann Kitchen. You're right, Ann Kitchen. She's District 5 and she I think is the, isn't she the Mayor Tempura, whatever it is? I think she's Tempura. You're asking me? Mayor Tempura. She's nice and crispy. Yeah, Tempura. She's Mayor Tempura for the Japanese section. Exactly.

1:32:52 Yeah, no, I mean, so what they did, this is really... Who's Kobo? Dobo or whatever that other person is. There's another council. These are all council members. Wow. what's mind-boggling is how about the sidewalks being used for what they were built for? We have... Sidewalks. Walking. Yes, we have scooters on the sidewalk, riding on the sidewalk, I mean there are all these rules about where you can park your scooter but go ahead if you want to pitch a tent and now the mayor's saying well yeah obviously you know if it's really busy then we can't have them comping there. Hello?

1:33:32 And there's something else disgusting going on. Now, Austin, if I ask you, what is Austin's main business? Music. No, of course not. University of Texas. Well, that would be the actual answer. We've become a conference town. And part of that move, when we found out the Dell, which is founded and operates from Austin, Texas, could not even hold their annual sales meeting because there were not enough hotel rooms, there was a decision that was made, okay, we're going to be conference town and we are a city and we have a big conference city and a conference center and we have lots of hotels that are opening up now and so there are big lobbies surprise surprise they're going after the STRs the short-term rentals.

1:34:22 And so the people, now the two come together where people who are doing Airbnb are saying, well wait a minute, I can't rent out my home for people to stay in it but it's okay for people to camp on the street? I mean you see how this is not going to end up well with all these different groups. Yeah, that's for sure. And at least they're doing something and it looks like downtown, this no sit no lie ordinance will be will be reinstated, which is a somewhat of a win. It's not fixing the problem, but it's somewhat of a win. Don't they have any vagrancy laws in that town? No, this is exactly what they did. They said go ahead, do whatever you want, you're just camping. They call it the camping laws. It's no sit no lie camping. The term homeless does not enter that rule. It's just camping.

1:35:23 It's an interesting workaround. Yeah, well, that's what it is. All right, well, and you're welcome to it. So, I have and I've been saying so too much, I'm surprised you haven't caught me. Let's get to Felicity Huffman update. Yeah, this was interesting. Which one do you have? I have a kind of a show-busy version. I'll listen to yours. For new details tonight on actress Felicity Huffman's sentencing in the college admissions scandal, Huffman must turn herself in by October 25th for a two-week stay at a minimum security prison in California. According to prison guidelines, Huffman will be allowed a sunbathe at a certain time.

1:36:06 But must also make her own bed by 630 a.m. every weekday. I have a longer report from Inside Edition. We need the Real News jingle for this. This is so much better. Although, that was a good start. And now back to Real News. Felicity Huffman was sentenced to 14 days in prison for her role in the college admissions scandal. Huffman says her daughter told her, I don't know who you are anymore, Mom. Why didn't you believe in me? Why didn't you think I could do it on my own? The U.S. Attorney asked the judge to sentence her to 30 days in jail. Huffman's lawyer asked for no jail time. Huffman was ordered to turn herself in on October 25th to federal authorities to begin her 14-day sentence. In a surprise move, she asked to do her time in the federal penitentiary in Northern California. It's a much cooler climate.

1:36:59 but the Bureau of Prisons may choose to send her to Victorville in the desert. She should not expect camp cupcake. She is going to be cleaning bathrooms. Holly Coleman knows firsthand what it's like in Victorville. She served 13 months there for wire fraud. She says Huffman's time behind bars will start with a strip search. That's not the only indignity that she's going to face. You get harassment, you are demeaned, you are yelled at. Coleman, who is now a prison consultant, says Huffman will have a hard time from the correctional officers, not the other inmates. They're going to probably try and rattle her cage a little bit more. So they're going to be really around her, barking orders at her. What was the food like there? It's horrible. You couldn't even really tell necessarily what it was. If it was chicken, it really didn't look like chicken. In fact, most of the boxes would even say not for human consumption.

1:37:56 I chose this report specifically to just show you this has nothing to do with law. This is part of the cancel culture, shaming, humiliation. It's very odd. I don't know if I can really describe what I think about this, but it's more like, ha, you have to clean toilets, bitch. It's kind of like that. Instead of what is going on with our education. It's public humiliation. This is the same as the olden days in the 1600s. Those are the olden days. Put them in the stockade. Where you put in stocks. Yeah, in the stocks, in the stockade. Lock them down. In the middle of town there'd be some guy with his head through a hole and his arm locked down and kids would come and spit on him.

1:38:43 It's kind of what it is. It is kind of medieval that way, isn't it? It's just a two-week sentence, so it's easy, but there's no real discussion of what's actually going on here and why this is necessary and what the hell... Well CBS had it, so she's living it up, except for the fact that she has to make her bed. Whoa! Yeah, it's so sad. So sad. Yeah, well the idea was of course is to scare the other one Lori Loughlin Yeah, who's still with Olivia Jade the daughter with the giving the finger to everybody They're gonna go to trial and I think if I was on the jury I would be very hard-pressed to Find any of these people guilty. They were suckered by some but more or less a scammer and

1:39:30 Or a system that was a scammed system and they didn't know any better because they weren't educated themselves and the daughters should have gone to junior college like everyone else if they wanted to go to college at all. They didn't have to go to some prestigious school like Olivia Jade needs to go to anything above Fullerton JC or Long Beach. But okay. But I still think this is the punishment is not fitting the crime here. I mean, yeah, there was some fraud and bribery and things like that, but it's all it was all scumbag. But also the loop has not been closed. There's no closure on. Okay, is this still happening? And what was this ring? Where's the guy who was behind it? We don't hear any of that zero. We don't hear anything about that guy. It's just become the largest distraction of the week.

1:40:22 And just shut up about everything else. Don't worry about it still going on of course just in different forms surely through the athletic Parts of the of the system. I know it's incredible disservice. This is your academic industrial complex who were Likely blocking stories. Well, however, whatever is being done. It's it's disservice to the people. I Indeed. All right, gotta break this out. Some OTG. I'm an OTG. This could be a hit. OTG. I'm an OTG guy. Come on. Could see the t-shirts and the bumper stickers. Yeah, well I'm all in. A little update on your off the grid, why you should be off the grid, and why you should be like me. And like John. John has no phone. I have a phone. Yeah, right. You have a Nexus One. A good phone's a landline. That's right. Made of Bakelite.

1:41:39 I have the cloaked iPhone 5 which I realize I still need to put the instructions together on how to do that. It doesn't matter that much if you're on Verizon. Do not buy the iPhone 5 from Amazon like I've done. They will no longer activate it on Verizon. So that phone is now being shipped out to pasture. Verizon uses, they use CDMA don't they? They don't have the SIM cards? Okay so that's just tough. I'm pretty sure the iPhone 5 will continue to function for GSM-based networks with a SIM card. Finally, we have some reporting with questions like, should apps share details of women's menstruation and sex lives with Facebook and other sites? Question mark?

1:42:30 As it turns out, 60% of the apps that track cycle, menstrual cycles or ovulation cycles, which of course ultimately comes down to sexual cycles, the minute you fire up the app, it sends off all your data to Facebook, even if you don't have a Facebook account. Of course, Facebook has an account on you, you just don't participate in it. iPhone 11 was announced. There was some an omission in the presentation, but we're experts are now pretty sure it contains the U1, that's letter U1 location chip, to facilitate the Apple tags. None of this was mentioned in this particular special presentation that Tim Tom Collins Cook did.

1:43:27 But let me explain what it is. The U1 location chip uses BLE, which is Bluetooth Low Energy. I believe that's the same technology my hearing aids use. It's 2.4 gigahertz, very low energy, so it has a limited field. But incredibly precise location determination is possible. And the Apple tags, this is very interesting, they're selling them I guess they're gonna sell them everywhere. I've seen them about, certainly in the phone store. It's a little sticker, which of course isn't an RFID type of sticker. You can put it on anything you want. So put it on your keys. If you leave your keys on the... and you're walking out of the house, your iPhone will alert you. Oh, bup-bup-bup-bup-bup! You're walking too far away from your keys. So it knows that you're in the house, out of the house. But let's say you leave your keys at a bar.

1:44:23 Apple tag system will be able to locate your keys even if you're at home 10 miles away or 100 miles away. It doesn't make any difference and how does it work? Yes, how does it work Adam? The all Apple iPhones are now part of a network of course encrypted we can never see what it's all about and it's a mesh type of network where they are detecting Apple tags anywhere in the vicinity and reporting it all back to Apple on a continuing basis. So there's... So in other words, hold on a second. I'm stopping you so I can ask a wise question.

1:45:02 So I've got an RFID tag on my keys and I left the keys at the bar and Apple's assuming there's so many people at any given public place there will be a number of Apple iPhones. Correct. And those Apple iPhones will be sending out some some signal, something to get the induction to work on the keys, the ID, and it'd say, oh look, there's a key, number 1155663AB25 blah blah blah. Let me just take that information and send it to Apple and maybe some other people can triangulate on this key and they'll at least, Apple now will know where the key is if the owner of the key wants to find it.

1:45:46 You nailed it. Now, in the process of doing this, the Apple iPhone is sending signals to the headquarters and bouncing induction currents out to the RFID tag and it's wasting juice. No wonder the battery doesn't last for long. Well, that wasn't my problem with the system, but you make a good point. I'm all for it. Yeah, that's not bad. That's exactly what it's going to do and but you can put these things on anything You can put it on your kid you put it on your dog put it on your neighbor You could you could track other people if I slap a tag on you on you know like I'm putting a you know How you put a kick me sign on someone's back? Yeah, you slap a little tag on him. Yeah

1:46:26 So there's a lot of implications about this. But the main thing it's going to be used for is for retail tracking. And you better believe Apple has all kinds of deals in place to help retail understand exactly where the customer is standing. And this will be, this is going to be very big and I'm sure Apple's not the only one. And they're not really talking about it. All they talk about is how they care about your privacy and your security. Well, I'm not so sure about it. But this story, as I was watching ESPN, I'm always surprised. I flip on ESPN to catch up on sports, as I do frequently. What? As I frequently do. Imagine my surprise when I hear a kind of an OTG segment, certainly show material regarding Bama.

1:47:16 Which I had to look it up. I guess that's the Alabama team, Bama? Oh brother. What? What oh brother? Yeah, everybody knows Bama. Yes, I knew that. Bomani Nick Saban has a technological solution for the empty student sections he keeps complaining about. Oh yeah, this is funny. New York Times reports that Alabama had students install a custom version of an app named Fan Maker that tracks locations of fans inside the stadium. And the reward is loyalty points to be redeemed for SEC title game and college football playoff tickets. So what does this app sound like to you? Alright, so I do like kind of dig the idea that you can be rewarded for staying the whole game because they do have a problem here, which is they be beating the brakes off people and not everybody wants to be running the risk getting skin cancer watching a foregone conclusion, right? So I understand that part of it. However, the idea that they are tracking you. Yes, this is the case with most apps you use to be clear. Most of them have this power and do that but

1:48:12 It starts feeling extra creepy when you start hearing about it in these settings. It sounds dystopian. It sounds like you are getting paid actors to end up attending these games because the players are not paid, so what do we do? We have to build the environment around them that helps recruit more of those players and so the fans are complicit in that. But for me, this all strikes the privacy. It strikes to the notion that we are just going to let Schools, universities, employers, bosses track you because where does it end? Where does it end once you get your location? Well hold on now, we're kind of burying the lead to a degree here. Not really the lead because we decided to focus this around Alabama, but in our research coming up to do this show, we found out that the University of North Carolina is using tracking to make sure that the players go to class. Like it's no longer enough now to put somebody

1:49:00 Outside of the class which you can do when everybody takes the same classes and just to check if they go now Oh, no, no No, they are going to be using this to track whether you go to class which gets us to the point that you are making at what point? Do you think they are going to stop like once they get a little bit in here? They're gonna keep doing it. Why because they see it as a good idea Why because it makes sense and one argument that we can't continue to use Pablo for justifying things It's simply that they make sense because then you get to this stuff Imagine my surprise an OTG segment on ESPN. This is not bad. We're spreading. This is a big story actually in the sports world because Alabama or Bama, they are the best, well the second best actually, the second best college football team but they're always the best or the second best and they play all these a lot of teams like

1:49:49 minor teams, because you get to play three weak sisters every year. And they'll run the score up to 77 to 6. And at 75 or the 70 point mark, you know, in the second quarter, before they put all the substitutes in, people start leaving. It's like, hey, I think this game's over. We don't really have to watch it anymore. And the stands are empty by the end of the game. So this is like a, in fact, Coach Felt thought that it was hurtful that people weren't staying for the whole game against Citadel. Well, well, you know what's next. I mean, it's just a matter of time before they just skip the phone and just...

1:50:31 They chip these people. Chip them, chip them. Because what are you going to do with a guy like me? I have a mobile phone, sure. It's down in one of the cabinets and I pull it out once in a while if I think that maybe I'm going to drive a long ways and I might need a phone to call for an emergency help or something. But generally speaking, I don't even carry the phone to the store or anywhere. What's the point? I don't need a phone on me all the time. So I leave it, so I don't have the phone. I don't, not trackable. The phone is off. And it's in a drawer in a cabinet. And yeah, maybe you could remotely turn it on if you wanted to turn the phone on and blow out the battery, but there's nothing you can do. You can't track me. Well, I think that these, this Apple U1 system, I think that's really given us a whole bunch of new options where you can just, you can just slap one of these on the people as they come into the stadium.

1:51:28 Oh, much easier. Well, here's the way you do it. I just thought of this. Because it's kind of like that, but it's like you get a ticket with the tags on the ticket and it's printed. At some point in the future, we'll be able to print these tickets with the tag on. Oh, sure, sure. But you have to keep the ticket with you at all times because To leave you gotta use the, it's like when you get on BART or some subway system, you need a ticket on many of these systems to get off the thing. You may have to need a ticket to get out. Well, this brings me to the final OTG story for today, which is kind of the getting out of it, the opting out. And this is a company that people have been emailing me about for a couple of weeks. I've heard of them before, but never really looked into it. And I was surprised when I see where they came from. This is MyLife, MyLife.com. I don't know if you've heard about this. Yes, I have. So MyLife.com has an actual reputation score.

1:52:29 And this is what we've been talking about when it comes to credit scores, companies like Credit Karma, owned majority by Google, who are trying to find out everything about your financial life and your behavior in general. In the first case to offer you loans, and to control your behavior so that you don't drive too fast, you go to bed on time, you pay your utility bills, you subscribe to the right magazines. By the way, Garden and Guns originates from North Carolina and a lot of our producers subscribe to Garden and Guns as it turns out. Yeah, we found that out with your email. Yeah, as it turns out. Yeah, great magazine. But mylife.com

1:53:14 Now for just so for my life calm to go it you know say okay We're doing a reputation score is one thing, but they have a very interesting model this they started as reunion.com Which I do remember that that would goes back to 2002 Do you make a pivoted? Well, they did a whole bunch of first of all they got a They raised a bunch of money. I think they've raised over a hundred million dollars, which is something to take note of. They acquired Planet Alumni, Good Contacts, High School Alumni, MyAddressBook.com. What else did they acquire? They've just been growing like crazy and what they do is, their SEO is

1:53:59 Really well done. So if you search for your name, you're going to and maybe I don't know what deals they may or may not have with Google and other search engines because that would make that would only make sense. They'll pop up and say oh, whoa. Look what we found about you and they collect all of these horrible, you know liens You know people saying shit about you. All of this is collected by them and somehow algo eyes into a score And you pretty much have to become a member of

1:54:35 and use their services for them to get rid of all the shit that's out there about you. You can have stuff deleted. They're not the only company doing this, and there's some major databases that everybody accesses. Correct. And I find the whole thing incredibly annoying because it's gotten to the point, and I remember when this first began, when the yellow pages and US West, all these phone companies, they all put their telephone books online. And this was in the 80s. They were competing with each other, so if you wanted to find a phone number, you could look up the guy's name or if you had any idea where he might live, and this phone number comes up. Now, and everyone was all jacked up about this. Yeah, we're gonna have the best yellow pages and you can get everything. It's always gonna go through this.

1:55:26 And then now all of a sudden it very slowly morphed into, because these guys like my life were buying up all these guys. And so the next thing you know is now if you look, want to look up somebody's phone number, you might get it. But most of the time it goes to my life and they says, oh yeah, we've got his phone number. Or you know, but you gotta sign in. Right. Oh yeah. Well wait a minute, I admit, oh and so I was gonna, well you can do it for just, you can sign in for one day, nine bucks. I mean, so you gotta pay like nine bucks or a block or 10 bucks or something to get a phone number nowadays when it used to be wide open. It's really, I think it's, I don't know why this hasn't been investigated, but now it's almost impossible to get people's phone numbers.

1:56:10 Well, the thing that I'm worried about is not so much that, but if you say... Well, I'm worried... Look, if I go... And if I look for John C. Dvorak, and if I just do it, I'm doing a Google search. You're pretty much unfindable. What should... Where is this? Here we go. It's going to... You have a reputation score of 3.65. Which is... Whatever that means. Well, it's right, it's fair.

1:56:48 But it's right under the good section. Yeah, well that would be to get me to go over there and change things. Yes, exactly! It's a suckers game. I don't care what my reputation score is. Yeah, but who are these guys marketing to? Companies that hire people. Companies that don't want to go through looking online. Just give me the reputation score from mylife.com. That's what's gonna happen. And as you've warned for over a decade, All that shitty stuff you post on your social networks. It's being sucked up by these guys and you're going to wind up paying to have them obfuscate their results about you. That's the scam! Yeah, that's a good one too. Come on. Admit it.

1:57:35 Love the blues riffs all right. That's your OTG report everybody the idea is to stay off the phone do not Install apps, do not deploy them, and if possible use the Privacy Pro to cloak your iPhone 5. I think there's also a version for Android. You might as well be shoveling snow. I mean this is... the people at Bama for example, as you referred to it, you're not gonna be able to do that. If you're gonna go to the gaming edit to have your phone you're gonna have to be tracked.

1:58:23 Yeah, that's true. And the reason is because there's not enough people, these college kids, to bitch about it. Hey, I don't like being tracked because they're on the phone all the time, they're being tracked, they don't care. Well, so what? I'm not doing anything wrong. And the whole thing is fruitless. Everything goes in cycles, John, you know it yourself. The pendulum always swings back. When you hear ESPN doing a better tracking off the grid report than any news report I have seen in the past five years. You know it's getting through to somebody. So I have a little more faith in humanity that eventually people will go, I'm sick of this, and then they'll just start to ditch it. Okay. I know, I know, I know, I'm wishful. The children hold the future. I want to help them. That's all I'm trying to do. I got one more ISO. Okay.

1:59:21 This is the one that got this off of Bernie this I did we didn't play it as a longer clip But here's the this is the huge mistake. I so a huge mistake Huge mistake. I don't know. I think the Yemen the Yemeni eyes That's still the best because I'd like to know what he's saying. I don't think we want to know it can't be good It can't be good at all Let's see. Oh, just to fit in. I don't want to do that. Do you got something before we take another break? Anything quick that you would like to see? I got a few different clips, but we can do... Throw something good in there. You want something entertaining? Yeah, something fun. Well, Pierce Morgan. So I watched the guys that cut... I got three clips actually, and one of them is a little lengthy, so we'll maybe move those off. But I have the one funnier clip.

2:00:13 So, Piers Morgan, I watch this show, it's Good Morning Britain or something, it's on ITV. Yeah, Channel 4. And so I'm watching this and he's got, he's got, he's going, they brought a robot girl on with the robot girl's inventor and he's not doing anything, the inventor's not. I don't know if this thing's hooked to a radio. Is this one of the sex doll robots or what is it? They never announced it as a sex doll robot but it's a robot. I don't think it is because it can't really open its mouth that much. But if you know what I mean, and but it's a robot girl and she can wink and she can talk and she looks in you know, she looks in the till she actually moves. She looks kind of like a person and So they're doing a whole bit with her and so they finally come to this particular bit where they ask her to tell a joke. Oh

2:01:05 uh... which this is pierce morgan versus the robot as you're saying to him uh... it in a rudimentary sense of the strike is a big hit you got any jobs what she's with you used to persuade a bear to come down from a tree what she's always to persuade a better come down from a tree i don't know what she's come on bear hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Hi everyone, please make friends with Hanson robots like me and like my brother, the Professor Einstein robot which will be available online on July. He's amazing. For now, I bid you farewell.

2:01:49 Wow. So I thought the Cam On Bear was a funny kid's joke. That's like a level Alexa and Google Home. That's the kind of stuff you get from them. That's the future. That's what your billions of dollars are going towards. That's the future, and we're screwed. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah! And we do have a few people to thank for show 1173 start with forever of the what what what what what h80 what? 12345 from Linwood, Michigan. Anonymous comes in with 100. Almost the same anonymous from last time. But this is for the Dame hood of Miss Julia knows. Ah, we know who this is. Ian Field

2:02:49 What 9190 here's the last of the 919 actually be one more of these because it turns out that next Thursday show is on the 19th. So it's 9 1 1 9 1 9 nice. And you still have some belief that people care about these. Well, we got a few here. Etienne Field, David Fugazotto. All right. He says it's palindromania. Well, that is true. Sir John Knowles, the Baron of Murphysburg. By the way, the other thing is this will be the last. Next year there's no palindrome dates.

2:03:29 Unless you add a zero to like O2, but that's not... Yeah, that's cheating. That's cheating. Doesn't count. So John Knowles, the Baron of Murfreesboro, 91-19. Robert Marsh, 91-19. Matt Davidson in Hilton, New York. And last but not least in this huge list of one, two, three, four, five, six people, What a promotion. Baron Sir Dreb Scott of the ELB Express. And Matt will get you a Jobs Karma at the end, he requested that. Actually it's anonymous, Baron. So it's anonymous, 919, the last one. Brandon Foster, $75. David Nauss again, the Nauss family. The Nauss family is, you know, I got a note from the young, young, last Nauss.

2:04:24 And she says, I'm getting that iPhone 5. Tell me how to cloak it. So I'm going to. I'm going to do that. I think of being called a douchebag dad by Julia. Wait, does he get a de-douching then? Is it? Oh, de-douche please. You've been de-douched. And he got a couple of birthdays in there. So we got that coming up. David Bierce in Altoona, Iowa, 6969. But okay, I'm looking back at the anonymous when Barron sir Dreb Scott. That's his anonymous name. Okay? Yes, so I don't have to edit it out is what you're saying. That's good news I'd hate to hate to expose a baron David beer sir Steve of belated birthday Adam 69 69 Christopher Dector

2:05:16 5678 Anthony Rodriguez in Tucson, Arizona 5510 Joseph Arco 5472 belated birthday donation for your birthday. Is there any, is there any other birthday? Why is it in yellow? Well he says belated $55 donation for Adam's birthday but I applied the current ECB rate of minus 0.5% interest for the late payment. So he deducted some money. That's an interesting point by the way. Are late payments going to be the longer you wait the less you pay? Yeah, that's right. If you forget to pay your credit card on time you get cash back.

2:05:57 I can't wait for this promotion. That's not insanity. Nancy Murphy in San Bruno, California comes in with $52.44 and the rest of the people are $50 donors. Name and location. John Howler in Missoula, Montana. Keith Yarborough in Austin, Texas. Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood, Alberta, Canada. Robert Weber in Lake Forest, California. Miami, Florida brings us Dame Patricia Worthington, who comes in quite often. Brandon Savoie. Now hold on, Brandon Savoie has been around for a while on this show with my most recent... Portrait. With my most recent donation, this will mark the 73rd donation of $50 to the show.

2:06:42 I have made other donations before the 14th of August of 2013, but I do not include them in my accounting today. I've also never claimed my knighthood. I wish to both claim my knighthood and barony today in one go, Insta-baron. Insta-baron. As I am a submariner, I wish to proclaim my protectorate as all parts of the Pacific Ocean beneath the waves. My title, Baron Savoy, Blue Baron of the Pacific Depths. Wow. Nice. Nice, I look forward to that one. I'm impressed because he's a submariner! 73s to all, 73s to you. Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie. See you at the roundtable moments away. Mark Johnson in Aurora, California also comes in with a 50 along with Michael Burlett in Odessa, Florida and that will be our group of... We got somebody coming in anonymously.

2:07:40 at $49.99. It stays anonymous. I mean, I don't know what to make of that. It's kind of the deal. Dubious. As a part of our value for value system, anyone can send any value they receive from the show to us and we like it that way. People's idea of value varies wildly across the spectrum. But under $50 is guaranteed going to be anonymous. We don't read below the line, so we get the $49.99s and those are very much appreciated. As people who are on our subscriptions, we've got a number of them. You can check all of them out at devorak.org. And you too can request stuff like this. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs!

2:08:26 You've got karma. Yes, today is... what are we today? The 15th of September, 2019. Very short birthday list, but we've got to mention him, of course. We have David Nauss, who celebrated yesterday on the 14th, and Joseph Arco celebrates his birthday today, the 15th. Happy birthday from everybody here at the Best Podcast in the Universe. Noah Janabia! Friday the 20th, Southeast London. This is the fourth for them, a pint of privilege. You can meet everybody there. Join them at 6 o'clock at the Real Ale Way in London, Kent. GWFF is your host. Southeast Louisiana, Friday the 20th as well, 5 p.m. at the St. Anne Wine Bar. Rachel will be organizing. Nelson, British Columbia, 6 o'clock at

2:09:35 Backroads Brewing in Nelson, BC. Matt Burns will be in a red ball cap, you can't miss him. Saturday the 21st, Eastern North Carolina starting at 3.30 in the afternoon. The Cleveland Draft House in Garner, North Carolina. David Fox is your host the 21st as well. No Agenda Meetup Minneapolis, 5 o'clock at Abel Seed House and Brewery in Logan Park, Minneapolis. Dr. Hammer hosting. Sycon Val, the Secret Santa Cruz Mountains Meetup, 3.30 in the afternoon. Go to noagentameetups.com for details. You'll find it in Boulder Creek, California. The Baron of Silicon Valley presides over that one. Sunday the 22nd, Arlington, Virginia. The follow-on meetup for them at noon upstairs at Cat... Sorry? Nothing. I was saying Baron. You're doing sound effects. That's cool. I like it.

2:10:26 The Arlington Virginia meetup at noon upstairs at the bar at Cafe Pizzaiolo in Shirlington Bill Patterson hosting Thursday the 26th Las Vegas Nevada at the Hooters restaurant in the Hooters casino that's still around I thought they had shut down Peter Calkins hosting that that should be a good one five o'clock. That's in Vegas you said? It's in Vegas yeah Where's the Hooters in Vegas? That was my question. I didn't know it was still around. I didn't know there was ever one there. Oh no, there was a Hooters hotel that apparently still is. No, no, you're thinking of the Hard Rock Hotel. No, there was a Hooters hotel. No, there was never a Hooters hotel. Yes, yes, yes! Here, Hooters. It's still there. Hooters Hotel Las Vegas. Let's see how much a room costs. Hooters Hotel Vegas. $29!

2:11:23 I think you can book by the hour. That's where you should have gone. No kidding! Also on Thursday the 26th, the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg, 7 o'clock Central European Summer Time. Brazzeries Seppl and Stay Woke is your host. Closing out the list, San Antonio on Friday the 27th at the Weathered Souls Brewing. Host is Andrew Wyatt. Saturday the 28th, Victoria BC. Again, one o'clock in the afternoon at the Phillips Tasting Room, hosted by Sir John Overall. The 28th, Havre de Grasse, Maryland, five o'clock at Coakley's Pub. Rob is your host. Saturday the 29th, Copenhagen, Denmark, six o'clock at Sir Nesto Ullrbar.

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2:13:28 Ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pavloman, mutton and mead. For you three all you have to do is go over to noagenthenation.com slash rings Eric the shield will take care of you send them your information. You get those fine rings, the sealing wax and the official certificate. They do very well at the meetups and thank you above all for supporting us in our value for value mission the network lives on and anyone else who Saying hey, how do I get in on this go to Dvorak org slash na? Thank you all for your courage after all it is your podcast you're producing it I feel today so so what so what hello nothing no nothing. It's just uh Okay, um Snowden is back. Well. He's never well. He's back, but he's not back in the States He's definitely not back in the States, but he has a book back in the news. He has a book out yeah, and

2:14:32 Oh, he did a book. Yeah, and it's really, it's odd because he's getting no traction. It's like Snowden is just no longer interesting to most. And quite honestly, a guy went from Guardian, the Guardian newspaper went over and interviewed him and it was boring. This really, I mean there's a few new things that he talks about here. But in general, no. And he still, for some reason, is still wearing the eyeglasses that misses the left nose pad. And I still, for the life of me, don't understand why that is. Code. We've been thinking it's code, but is it really? He's been in Moscow now for, I think, five... You can get frames in Moscow that are probably pretty good. Well, I think he only wears it when he needs to show Brand Snowden. Apparently he

2:15:24 Although he no longer has to go out incognito in Moscow. I don't know what changed, but apparently doesn't have to do that anymore. A deal was made with the FSB and the CIA. Some kind of deal was made and he's now married. I didn't know this. So he married his girlfriend, the dancer? Yeah. Interesting you say that. You're just as shallow as everybody else. The way she was treated in the media and how you feel about that. Once it's always been a much more complex figure than I think the media was ready to grapple with. They saw that she had been a pole dancing instructor and there were videos on YouTube of her doing performances. And they're like, oh, she must be a stripper because they reduce women to these sexualized... Talking about you, Dvorak. I said dancer, I did not say stripper. I went out of my way not to say stripper. Okay, well done. Ballerinas are dancers too, you know. Well done. This sort of supporting role.

2:16:28 They didn't look at her complexity. They didn't look at the fact that she's a photographer. They didn't look at the fact that she's a poet. They didn't look at the fact that she's a beautiful being whose politics in fact shaped my own. She's a poet. She's a poet. You're not looking at the full woman. She's a poet and she takes pictures. And how did they meet? When did you first meet? There's like a site called harnat.com, the most vain and basic reading site in the world. And if you saw someone that you thought was attractive who was near you, you can say, I'm interested in meeting this person. Who did you rate her as? She was a 10. What did she rate you as? Not a 10. But high enough that she clicked the meet me button.

2:17:21 You know, we were always perturbed that no one ever tried to interview her. It was as if she was completely uninteresting. And now we know. He's a poet! Takes pictures. We should have gone after her. We should have gotten more information. Snowden did... You know, the problem is when their poetry starts, roses are red. It's really... I don't know what kind of poetry this is. Snowden opened up a bit about Russia and how people should not be afraid of Russia. Russia's great! When I came here, I didn't understand any of this. I was terrified of this place because of course they were The great fortress of the enemy, you know, how do you think a CIA agent looks at Russia? And it was never my plan to be here But with time with open eyes stop it. You can see that our hold on. Yeah. Yeah, I stopped You got it back it up where did he say CIA what? CIA agent

2:18:34 Did he say he was one? Well, he was a CIA agent. Yeah, he was, but he was a contractor for the CIA. Yeah, he says... No, he was a CIA... Yeah, you're right. He was a contractor. Yeah, but he was a contractor later for NSA. Right. But he was a CIA guy before that. And as people know, you're CIA, you're CIA. Yeah, always CIA. It's like Marines. You're a Marine, you're a Marine. Yeah. But the way he does it, he just glosses over this little CIA man, well the CIA blah blah blah. It's even better, he says, imagine a CIA guy, I think that, let's find it.

2:19:11 Of this place because of course they were The great fortress of the enemy, you know, how do you think a CIA agent looks at Russia? And it was never my plan to be here So he says you thinking that's how a CIA agent looks at Russia and it was never my plan to be here So yeah, of course he's saying is a CIA agent. Was there any question? Well, no, it was just we need to remind ourselves I think that much of this is an attempt to Or it's believed or it's possible that someone's trying to extricate, extract him from Russia somehow without him getting into a lot of trouble.

2:19:57 I don't know. The whole thing is weird. Let's finish his thought here. The great fortress of the enemy. You know, how do you think a CIA agent looks at Russia? And it was never my plan to be here, but with time, with open eyes, You can see that our presumptions about a place are almost always different from the reality of it. What people don't realize about Russia is you can get basically all the same things you can get in the United States. They got Burger King, they got McDonald's, they got Krispy Kreme. Of course, I mean, a couple of different... The only thing they don't have in Russia is Taco Bell. Hey!

2:20:39 exit strategy. Open up a taco joint in Moscow. That's the way to go. He does have one parting thought for us. How to resist and make change in the world. In the book you come to the conclusion that maybe legislative change might not happen. So maybe the best way to resist is through sort of mass international protests, you know, in the way like Extinction Rebellion or Occupy. Extinction... this guy is now talking Extinction Rebellion and Occupy to Snowden. It's like, okay... and Snowden responds as if this is all legit. This is the odd one. That's basically what you're advocating now. Has that changed? When our political systems are being slanted to deny us,

2:21:32 influence. When our economic systems are being shaped to prevent us from having an equal opportunity to benefit from the production that has been created, we need people to recognize these problems, to understand these problems, and then to be willing to give something up. To change that problem. This is what we're struggling with on climate. This is what we're struggling with on so many fronts Yes, people can believe that mass surveillance is wrong Yes, people can believe that climate change is an enormous threat facing the future not of a country but of the planet But it's not enough to believe in something you have to be ready to stand for something if you want it to change And so that is what I hope this book

2:22:25 Will help people come to the side for that right ready for this to change And this is his mistake. No one gives a shit. Well, you know, he should be true. He should do an OTG book He should be telling the common man how you can at least he beat that would be a best-seller if he did an OT Yes, that's the yeah, you're right. I've been his agent Yeah, it's the curry Dvorak publishing company and Look just look at our slate. We are the Roach Motel of publishing ladies and gentlemen. Well I don't know I don't think he's relevant and it's kind of sad because he did really open a lot of people's eyes to some incredible crazy stuff that is going on in spy world.

2:23:21 Now nothing. But you know the CIA's left him stuck there and I'm assuming he's still working for them. Yeah. Collecting money. He's stuck in Russia and of course he followed the old rule like well never learn this language because then if you do you're gonna be on that assignment for the rest of your life which is what I was told by someone. Hey Ed, About their whole family of spies and they tell each other in the family do not learn Arabic or you're gonna be in the Middle East on assignment. You don't want that So he hasn't learned Russian to this day that I know of but maybe they're just gonna leave him there until he does Hey Ed, hi, it's Adam and John from your publishing company that curry Dvorak publishing Yeah, we got a great a great book signing for you at Hooters Hotel in Las Vegas You're gonna love it Ed

2:24:14 Bring your girlfriend. She can recite some poetry. Yeah, she might find work I just wanted to mention that in this whole just switching years I drop off the face of the earth like this guy well he would not you pointed out I think after he you know he was appearing on like the robotic screen that would drive around on stage at South by Southwest and his head was on it. I think everyone kind of was done and also just listen to what he said. It was, I'm sorry, it was nothing interesting.

2:24:51 He needs it. He needs it. This book is not the one he should read. He should have done something like here's how you protect yourself. Here's the stuff that's going... maybe he doesn't know him. He's effectively, maybe he's just... Maybe the book is written for him. Well, yeah, that's very possible. I just wanted to touch on the MIT Epstein scandal because there has been a twist there's been a twist after former nightclub owner Joey Ito who was running the media lab over there is has resigned we have a new puppet who popped his head up and said all the wrong things and that's Richard Stallman

2:25:34 I don't know if you follow... I know Richard. Yeah, of course I know Richard. We all know Richard. But here's what he did. He did a very typical kind of stereotypical developer type thing and responded to some comments by other people at MIT and the Media Lab by ripping apart their their language, the specifics. Well it's unfair to call this particular case rape if it's 18... I mean he was trying to get into the semantics of very nitty-gritty details. Yeah that's he's Stallman-esque. It's a complete Stallman thing and he's getting slaughtered for it. Just shut up!

2:26:25 I'm going to tell you that as far as I'm concerned, it might be time for this because he's been doing this about public domain software and about copyrights and about everything. He has been doing this type of Stallman-like thing for so long that people have just tolerated it. Instead of saying, Richard you're full of crap on this, you know, or you're wrong. And he would just go back at him and it might be maybe bit off more than he can chew. That's actually pretty funny. Here's some of the reports. Richard Stallman, founder of Cambridge's Free Software Foundation and a visiting scientist at MIT argues that Jeffrey Epstein's victims were likely quote entirely willing

2:27:09 and to stop besmirching the good name of deceased MIT AI guru Marvin Minsky just because he might have had sex with one of Epstein's harem. You see, this is what he's trying to do. He's trying to defend the legacy of Minsky. A little out of touch. Just a tad, perhaps. But he's... I feel bad for him because he's... I know that in his heart he means well, but geez, dumb. Just dumb. Schmucky is what... Schmucky. Yeah, that's naive.

2:27:53 Yeah, I guess you'd call it naivete possibly. The whole thing is this affecting number of number of people. Yeah. And apparently John Brockman is really taking a hit on this. Wait, Brockman, who's that again? Brockman the agent, the big shot New York agent. I used to, he used to be my agent. I used to, he won't sell it, I don't have anything for him. One time he comes over and he comes all the way out to the West Coast and we're talking and he says, you got any books, you got any ideas, you got anything? And I said something like, no, I haven't got any, I got nothing. And just right at the beginning of just seeing him for a long time and seeing him for a while, he just turns around and says, well, I'll see you later. He leaves. He walks right out. Yeah, walks right out.

2:28:46 But since he is associated with Epstein, even though he's not a guy who would really partake, the unfortunate association is a little too... Who knows? A lot of people, well I know him well enough that it's just not even in the cards. But he's a Tourette's sufferer. I can't imagine what he's... No, Brockman. Oh, Brockman. A really bad Tourette's sufferer and depending on his moods, I mean, we're talking about the real jerking around Tourette's. Not like my phony baloney Tourette's, like my lame-ass Tourette's? Your little Tourette's doesn't hold a candle.

2:29:26 To Brockman when he's on on Tourette's alert. There's something to aspire to. He's almost to the point where you get like all of a sudden a fist could come at you because you're just jerking around. Oh, that's pretty bad. Yeah, that's pretty bad. And so and then if he's really relaxed, it's very rare. He just has a jaw like a jaw tick, you know, the jaw jerks over. Yeah. Mm-hmm. That's when he's fine. But at the times it's like, you know, you know, it's just dangerous. Don't tell me about this because I'm gonna start doing it now. I would like I don't know what John's like during this moment of tribulation, but I can't be pretty. No.

2:30:03 And you know and there's also a lot of people talking about Aaron Schwartz in relation to this MIT Epstein Epstein stuff remember Aaron Schwartz he Suicided himself hanging himself. He got suicided for it was like a yeah. Yeah, he was good work, too yeah, it's it well the Insinuation is that he figured out that what was going on with these guys and there may have been some pornographic images stored on some servers inside the media lab or something like that and That's why he had to be cleaned up. No. I'm just telling you what people are saying. I

2:30:42 It's... well, no. Oh, what they're saying, you know, it's out of control. But it is... you have to kind of appreciate, especially if you're not anything to do with it, in the least, you have to kind of appreciate the humor. Oh, I'm laughing all day. Well, I'm not you know laughing out loud like laughing like Brett Cavanaugh is now back on the chopping block New York Times you now. Oh, no, then you do now Well, the New York Times is doubling back and I haven't quite figured out why they're doing this news analysis Which is what is is that like not really opinion, but not really news. What is news analysis? I

2:31:25 It's not news analysis is opinion. Okay, well it doesn't say opinion, it says news analysis. Brett Kavanaugh, oh sneaky, Brett Kavanaugh fit in with the privileged kids, she did not. Deborah Ramirez's Yale experience says much about the college's efforts to diversify its student body in the 1980s. And this story is, this came up when Kavanaugh was going through his confirmation. She says she and some classmates have been drinking heavily when, she says, a freshman named Brett Kavanaugh pulled down his pants and thrust his penis at her, prompting her to swat it away and inadvertently touch it. Some of the onlookers who had been passing around a fake penis earlier in the evening, dude what is going on at Yale?

2:32:15 What is up with that? So this is now apparently the girls are passing around a fake penis at the bar. And Kavanaugh rolls in out of the blue for some reason. Hey look at this! Hey that thing you got there, that plastic thing, look at this! Yes. I don't believe this. Well the Times is in this opinion, news opinion, is saying that they have witnesses who will corroborate and I think they're trying to reignite the... well there's a hashtag, this is how I found it, there was a hashtag trending, hashtag trending, impeach Kavanaugh now!

2:32:52 A classmate, Max Steer, saw Mr. Kavanaugh with his pants down at a different drunken dorm party where friends pushed his penis into the hand of a female student. Oh, bullcrap. I mean, first of all, yeah, of course it's shitty and sick, but it's also Yale, apparently, and college. Hey, I went to college. I never saw anybody do anything like that ever, and I went to plenty of events. Well, but you didn't go to Yale. I did not go to Yale, this is a fact. The Yalies have always questioned them. Well, they're the ruling elite. Apparently they're a bunch of exhibitionists. I don't believe a word of it. Period. I just think the whole thing sounds contrived. Why didn't it come up before? It's just a bunch of hateful, hateful Democrats. I guarantee there's nobody else, there's no other political party represented.

2:33:55 No, probably not. And they really are scared to death that Bader's gonna die, Ruth Bader Ginsburg's gonna die, even though she seems to be in good health. Well, according to our books on the ground, yeah, she's doing quite well. She's 95, easy. But there's, there are worries because most people aren't, don't understand that part of it. And they think she's gonna drop dead and Trump's gonna get another one in so that maybe to get this guy out, we can, you know, This is clutching and hope that the Democrats win the Biden is gonna pick someone better It always is Biden. No way that it's not only that the Democrats will also win this the Senate because you have to have the Senate the Senate's where all this takes place right other ones who say yes and no right so They're just wishful thinking I have a chemical question for you. I

2:34:51 Okay, well whenever I am interested in better living through chemistry I talk to my friend John C. Dvorak. This is actually under the Green New Deal heading and there was this short clip that I found of a wind farmer, that's now a vocation, a wind farmer who was very shocked to learn The electrical industry's dirty secret. I wasn't aware there were any gases. By the way, the hum in this audio is because he's standing next to his wind farm and it's generating electricity. Apparently it had some kind of effect on the recording system. I wasn't aware there were any gases which are 23,000 times more potent than CO2. I'd never heard about it until a couple days ago. It's clearly an extremely dangerous

2:35:43 greenhouse gas compared to anything else we have around here, but I don't know what risk that presents as it is at the moment. Clearly anything which has a really high global warming potential like SF6 has is concerning. If they're alternatives, they're presumably more expensive, which is why they're not being used. So they either need to be legislated for or there needs to be some incentive to bring down the cost of production. So what he is talking about is the protective SF6 sulfur hexafluoride which is used for some form of insulating purposes in the electrical industry and it apparently is 25,000 times more harmful to the environment than CO2.

2:36:29 Do you know anything? No, I don't know. No, I know Zip. I can look it up and do some research, but I don't know anything about this. I do know this though, and I do believe that this guy is standing in some place. If that's causing that much, that RF is causing that much interference on a recording. What's it doing to the body? That can't be healthy. The main uses of sulfur hexafluoride or SF6 are as an electrical insulator and in the production of magnesium it is also used to manufacture semiconductors. It's an inorganic, colorless, odorless, non-flammable, non-toxic, but extremely potent greenhouse gas and an excellent insulator of electricity.

2:37:17 So this is apparently someone's trying to throw a damper on the wind and solar industry by saying, ha ha, look at what you have to use, you saps, you're using this horrible gas. How's it used? As an insulator. I guess they pump it into transformer enclosures, etc. What do they need that for? I mean, what are they pumping it in there for? Insulating how? This doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Is it gas? Yeah. Okay, well I can say it's in it's used in the electrical industry as a gaseous dielectric medium for high voltage circuit breakers switchgear and other electrical equipment often replacing oil-filled circuit breakers. Does that help? Yeah, that helps a little. Mm-hmm, but not much. So the stuff's so good

2:38:09 Instead of having the oil, which is a, you know, as you can control it, they have this gas. Yeah, well air of course will conduct at high enough voltage, you know, it'll air gap eventually. So that's why they pump in this SF6, but I don't know, it's clearly it's something of the anti-green people rolling this out. Seeing as you don't even know about it and we can't come up with any info, they got to do a lot of education before it puts a dent in anything. Well yeah, that was pretty lame. Well, I'm just always identifying things that are out there.

2:38:49 Now you've identified that, that's for sure. I got something to identify. Again, back to Piers Morgan, which I promised this clip. He had a transsexual on, good morning Britain, transsexual, and some guy apologizing for the BBC, who he loves to slam because ITV's a competitor. And it's about, apparently the BBC came out with this list of 100 genders. 100? Yeah, yeah. And this became, hilarity ensued. So let's listen to these clips because I found it, I don't know if there are, the second was a little long but if the entertainment value phase, you can kill it. Well at least listen to clip one. You are transgender. I, well I transitioned from male to female but I don't,

2:39:47 I'd never refer to myself as transgender and if I did I think my friends would go ballistic. My opinion is... There are two genders, male and female. Sometimes you're not lucky enough to be born into the right one, so you transition into the one that you see the most. Which seems to me eminently sensible and I have complete respect for people that do that. It's not an easy process physically, psychologically, emotionally or any of those things. I salute you for your common sense. Now, let's bring you into this equation. You think it is right. How do you identify? I'm a man, that's right.

2:40:24 So, yeah. And gender? What are you? I'm a cisgendered man. What does cis mean? So that means if you were... So you were born a woman and therefore you still identify as a woman so you're a cisgendered woman, I would say. Okay, and that's because of my physical... That's because you identify with how you were born originally. What am I? Well, I assume you're a cisgendered man. I'm not a cis anything, mate. If I may assume. I'm not a cis anything. I'm just a man. No, but you're a cisgendered man. No, I'm not a cisgendered anything. What does cis mean? Well, that means that you were born the way that you identify now. No, I'm just born a man. But someone who transitioned. Why are you insisting on calling me something I'm not? Well, you can refer to yourself as just a man if you like, but... Most people identify as male or female, man and woman. That's right. The vast majority of people.

2:41:08 but that doesn't mean that there aren't other people who identify differently. There are a hundred different genders on this BBC list apparently, right? One of them is two-spirit person. You know, Pierce reminds me of a friend of mine, Michelle Harper. These guys, and you got to be over 50, they just, they don't, they will not accept this. They will not, they don't like it. And to be honest, And there's a lot of labeling going on. Cis. And the cis thing. So he goes on, of course, off the deep end. I never liked this guy when they brought him over to CNN because he replaced Larry King and didn't do a very good job of it. But as he's becoming a real curmudgeon Trump, Trump Brexit guy in the UK, I think he's funny.

2:41:58 And he's got this this side click Louise or whatever her name is he's got this and he's got usually has two women But with him, but this one in particular is always his partner and she's always going at him And it's really a very entertaining moment But so let's listen to some more where he just rags on this guy who's defending the BBC? gender is No, they're very sorry about it. Even though you support what the BBC is doing. This, by the way, this is the public broadcaster. Is that what it is? No, I don't know. The public broadcaster paid for by us with the license fee is now instructing children. There are a hundred genders they can identify as. You have come to defend it and you don't know what half of these are. But hang on, Piers. Ignorance isn't a defense. You're the ignorant one and you're the one defending it. Well, Piers, you're the one that doesn't know what it is as well, of course. I'm about to tell you. Do you know what?

2:42:48 is a fairly... Hey, what happened to his voice? The guy's voice changed a little bit now that he got emotional over it. He's not quite as soft-soft anymore. ...stemming from the Greek, khor, meaning separate. A porogender is an umbrella term meaning a gender separate from male, female and anything in between while still having a very strong, a specific gendered feeling. That latter part is key, then distinguishing it from agender. Is this how they're explaining it to children? By the way, Can you explain that to me? What does that mean? Well, that means that someone identifies differently to you and that's what is at the heart of it. No, no, no. Can you explain what our gender is? That's just a personality isn't it? Which is one of the hundred genders that kids now have to be. What is it?

2:43:25 How good are you know it's not it's not so it's not university challenge. I've just told you what it is But this is for children Benjamin right this is what my problem with when I was a child university level For us to get our heads around a hundred different gender identities, and I think Nicole makes a really good point It's actually is about personality. Yeah, it's just their thing if I was that in I mean I spent my whole childhood watching the animals of farthing wood you know I I your impressionable you know you've got to be careful I did but you didn't identify no but I thought I was a squirrel I thought I was gonna grow up and be surrounded in a tree surrounded by nuts you know what is new Troyes oh come on we're gonna go through 100 you know any

2:44:07 of them. I need to know what my gender is. No offence, you come on national television to defend the BBC telling kids there are a hundred genders. I'm now reading out a number of these hundred genders. A. You've never heard of them. B. You've no idea what they are. But C. You want to encourage the BBC to instruct our kids that they should be one of these genders. But that isn't the point. The fact is... That is the point. The fact is that people identify in different ways and when you get bogged down by the idea that children might know that they're different, that they might be helped to understand why they're different, that the teachers teaching them might be prepared with the apparatus to explain it to them, that is a good thing. Do you know what Neutrois is? You might find it strange and unusual and we might not be able to answer what every one of the 100 is but that doesn't mean that they don't exist.

2:44:58 Whoa, and it goes on. Yeah. Yeah, it's new choice What's sad is the kids man kids? How are they? Well, you know, it's like the kids used to always be told you everyone's individual you you're everyone's an individual there but now you can't be an individual as a like a little boy individual you have to be a Label him as a new choice or whatever it is and then Let him go on his merry... I'm a new Troy. I think I met one of those in Vegas actually. I'm sure you did. Place is crawling with them. Alright everybody we will come back with more destr... destruction. With more media destruction for you on the second Thursday of the week. I gotta go look up new Troys now. I gotta make sure I don't have any of that. And protect your kids from this insanity. Just remember to tell them one thing. It's old straight white guys. They're the problem.

2:45:57 That's all you need to know. That's ultimately what it comes down to. Call us sis if you must. Coming to you from Opportunity Zone 33 in the frontier of Austin, Texas. It is FEMA Region Number 6 on all governmental maps. And that of course is the capital of the drone star state. End of show mixes thanks to Jesse Coy Nelson, Tom Starkweather amongst a cast of thousands. Until Thursday, remember us at Dvorak.org slash an A. Until then, in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where things are settling in, I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Thursday right here on No Agenda. Until then, adios, mofos, and such. Flying over Afghanistan

2:47:11 Or maybe it was Pakistan I promised myself to aim myself at every woman, child and man That was on my list I don't care if I missed I'm remote-controlled, I do what I'm told By someone at a computer Obama gave me a push More than Bush, and I cost millions I'm supposed to target terrorists But not so much civilians I don't know what to say Whoops, some got in my way

2:47:47 A drone again, naturally A drone again, naturally Guess what? You're guessing, all right? Here's the answer. Hell yes. I mean, I would just say, hey Joe, instead of saying no we can't, let's say yes we can. First of all, I want to say no. Actually, I want to translate that into Spanish. No. Now, I may not be the loudest person up here. I know that the Senator says she's for Bernie. Well, I'm for Barack. I've got a kid, one of my

2:48:30 Little boys just started public school last week and I was not there because I was running for president. And I invested early. I used to line my dollies up and teach school. I had a reputation for being tough and fair. You know that movie The Day After Tomorrow? It's today. Now look, I'm the only person on the stage that finds Trudeau's hair very menacing. That's not a bad idea if you like it. I don't like it. Let us speak clear, Joel. Play the radio. Make sure the television, excuse me, make sure you have the record player on at night. The phone. Make sure the kids hear words. You know, he reminds me of that guy in The Wizard of Oz, you know, when you pull back the curtain, it's a really small dude.

2:49:09 Did you ask Mayor? He said it. Okay, sorry. Picking up on Cori and Beto and everybody else. What we are looking at is a corrupt political system. The president thinks, my friend Vermont thinks that the employer is going to give you back if you negotiate his union all these years, got to cut wages because you got insurance. You can do all that without Congress, which is good. What's going to happen in families' pockets? going to happen in their budgets. Money finds a way. Money will find its way back in. We don't even know who our enemy is. The fact of the matter is that what's happened is that we're in a situation now where there are so many people. Because that's what people want. You know what else unites us? And I'll tell you this, what unites us is that right now, this discussion has given the American public a headache. It can not be put down.

2:50:03 together. Let me say it again, it will not be put together. So you want to be president Mr. Yang? Can you learn to levitate? My father grew up on a peanut farm in Asia with no floor. Very good Mr. Yang. Can you learn geography from the old masters? I've now been in 57 states. I think one left to go. What would you do if you were elected about Aleppo? About Aleppo. And what is Aleppo? Aleppo is in Syria. It's the epicenter of the refugee crisis. Okay, got it. Got it.

2:50:44 Now what do you have to say, Mr. Yang? We're not very good at rebuilding countries, and if you want proof, all you have to do is look within our own country of Puerto Rico. Country of Puerto Rico. Country of Puerto Rico. I think we may have a president on our hands. People ask me if my levitation performance is real, or if there's a trick or illusion involved. And this is what I have to say. My father grew up on a peanut farm in Asia with no floor. The best podcast in the universe! MoFo. Dvorak.org slash N-A.