Episode 1163 · Thursday, 15 August 2019

Cashless Millennials

Media discrepancies surrounding the death of Jeffrey Epstein collide with leaked ShareBlue strategies and a massive shift toward cashless transactions among the millennial generation.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1163

About this episode

Jeffrey Epstein reportedly committed suicide in a federal facility while on suicide watch, though non-functional cameras and conflicting reports from ABC News and The New York Post have fueled intense skepticism. The death of the financier complicates ongoing legal proceedings, potentially making search warrants against associates like Ghislaine Maxwell harder to challenge. Speculation regarding the event ranges from a botched extraction by intelligence services to a Mossad-linked honey trap operation involving international blackmail.

Journalist Vicki Ward faces scrutiny over her 2003 Vanity Fair profile of Epstein after claiming former editor Graydon Carter removed victim testimonies to avoid litigation. Meanwhile, leaked instructions from ShareBlue Media reveal a coordinated effort by Allison Girvin to deploy online operatives against right-wing narratives. In Washington, House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler announced formal impeachment proceedings while Democratic candidate Andrew Yang drew comparisons to John Boehner after an emotional display at an Iowa gun reform forum. Additional reports cover massive ICE raids in Mississippi and a heated Austin City Council debate over public camping ordinances and sanitation.

Jen Briney of Congressional Dish joins the program to advocate for the Value for Value funding model during a C-SPAN appearance. The technical team details a major migration of the No Agenda art generator from Drupal to Laravel 6.0. The show concludes with a montage of Joe Biden declaring a preference for truth over facts and a humorous donation plea from young Felix Wilson.


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CHAPTER 01 / 38 Discussion

Podcast Production Workflow, Amazing Polly Deconstructionist

The hosts describe their independent research process, noting they rarely communicate about show content during the week. They discuss YouTuber Amazing Polly, whom they characterize as a "deconstructionist" and "guilt by association specialist" rather than a traditional source.

amazing polly· podcasting· production· youtube· pecheneg

00:00 I am a robot. I am sustainable, you must die! I'm just gonna ignore the whole neighborhood conversation.

00:39 I know you don't like him. He's dead, don't worry about it. Mimi hates his sweaters...I get it! The man is not loved. What are you rambling on about? I know you don't like Mr Rogers. You don't like Mr Rogers. A point of order... Point of information! Point of information comrade! I would like to mention the way we work on this show novel way we believe it is the way to go. John and I are pretty much not in contact in between shows during the week except for some maybe administrative stuff, maybe there's something we want to make sure the other has seen but rarely will we talk about what were working on what we're collecting. We should mention that once in a while not often we work on a skit

01:31 Yeah, and that always fails. Always fails? So don't do it that often! No, its usually... Here goes the zephyr. Ah very good. How many cars? 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 no extra cars So, similarly I do not know what clips John has. He does not know what clips I have however John does his clips the evening before Saturday night so they come in around 1 or 2 a.m my time. I don't see them until the morning of course i do download them I don't listen to them I do look at the titles

02:10 to give me a little bit of indication in what area he's been researching, and I'm very happy to see that you have crossed the streams and entered into my fantastic poly territory. Which I like a lot Actually, that's not the amazing Polly. I think is her name so but I immediately ceased all production on Amazing poly clips so we will get to those fabulous Paulie. It's amazing the amazing Polly The amazing Polly is what she is. The YouTuber, apparently you found as well who I've been following for weeks and weeks Well she cropped up on the Pecheneg feed Yeah that's because he actually has gotten stuff from her so he tells me yeah well it's a dubious source to say the least Well she's not a source She's a deconstructionist

CHAPTER 02 / 38 Discussion

Jeffrey Epstein Death, Media Reporting Discrepancies

Jeffrey Epstein reportedly committed suicide in a federal facility while on suicide watch, though reports indicate cameras were non-functional. ABC News and The New York Post were among the first to report the death, notably downgrading Epstein's description from "billionaire financier" to "mega millionaire."

jeffrey epstein· abc news· william barr· suicide watch· metropolitan correctional center

03:12 She is a, she's less well if you want to call her that I would call her a guilt by association specialist. Oh yeah well she does yarn and tacks you know colored yarn? Smear artist I'd say. Oh I wouldn't say that! So this is Sunday, August 11th the second Thursday show of the week. Typically the events that occurred yesterday happen on a show day so it was quite surprising we had a little bit of time to at least think about it this is the apparent suicide of Jeffrey Epstein and crowd goes wild yeah here's the crowd I was downtrodden disheartened when I heard this

04:15 Well, considering he's in a federal facility and he was on suicide watch which apparently they dropped. And he was being monitored by cameras which apparently stopped working and all the rest it would be somewhat disheartening I don't think anybody was too happy about it Barr in particular Well couple of things changed as far as I know it was ABC and The New York Post who reported this first And I'm always, because it happened early in the morning and my phone was just... Because i was getting text messages from people saying you got to see this. You gotta see what's happening and so that was kind of

05:00 Handy that we could you know immediately see who was responding first and what they were saying and no doubt It was the same everywhere I think ABC though was the first and not only did they kind of start off the messaging But they also changed a couple things now how have we always heard Epstein being described? You know, the billionaire financier hedge fund manager Then of course all of the alleged assaults. So ABC just came out with this and I was like, okay... For them to report sources and it came out very fact-of-the-matter everyone had

05:44 according to sources. No name, no official statement... Have we ever really seen an official statement from the Metro Correction Facility? I don't know anything- That's a good question because i don't remember seeing one. I don't recall seeing one either so the message was put out very distinctly. So sources tell ABC News Jeffrey Epstein took his own life The exact timing and circumstances are unclear right now but the mega millionaire is Notice this. We've gone from billionaire financier to mega millionaire, he's gotten the downgrade. He was accused of exploiting and abusing dozens of minor girls. He'd been on suicide watch in a New York City jail you'll remember he was found unresponsive in his cell last month with marks on his neck initially investigated... That's not a lot just make sure we keep these corrections going It's not true

06:32 It's not in New York City jail. It was also not found unresponsive a couple weeks ago He was found complaining of some his neck being hurt I don't think he was unresponsive Yeah, miss sell last month with marks on his neck Initially investigators thought he'd tried to take his own life They were then looking into whether he was assaulted by another inmate or if he even paid someone to beat him up Epstein's attorneys had been fighting to get him out on bail bail but a judge refused. Prosecutors argued the mega millionaire's lifestyle and wealth made him an extreme flight risk." Again, mega millionaire just interesting to see that change another couple things you should note assaulted by another prisoner yeah this particular jail is not allows mixing of prisoners and you can find out kind of what this place is like believe it or not by the Yelp reviews

07:26 How many stars does it get as a lockup facility? It gets between one, like I just give it one star and then people give me four stars. Five stars thinking its pretty not bad place to be locked up Oh they've got to be paid Yelpers you know how that goes They get paid to do this Its a possibility but there's...I don't see anybody being advertising boosting it But there are Yelp reviews and it describes the place is being almost impossible even seeing any other prisoners let alone can be assaulted by one So this news was so big that they immediately had to get our guy the the constipated reporter Tom Yamas Get him on the phone. It's not time yamases Sounds pretty constipated here, too. This also follows news just yesterday of a

08:14 of one of his associates, a separate court case but one of the Epstein accusers coming out and naming names of some very prominent businessmen and politicians who have all denied that they did anything inappropriate. But they started to name names, these names started to come out in public... This is a little confusing because there's a couple things going on There is a new woman who was speaking out Jennifer Arose, I think her name is. And she's new on the scene at the same time there were actual new documents that were disclosed. That was in pages

08:50 2000, yeah. That included Bill Richardson, former governor of New Mexico... And that's where the names came from! Who specifically according to Yamas does he say who was naming names? Because every time I've seen interviews with all these women they'll kind of beat around the bush but they never name names No, I don't think I've seen it either. They're all listed on that document! That's where the names came from? Yes, but he is saying it came from this new woman... They started to name names and they started to come out in the public and one of the associates thought some of these at the associates were going to be brought in possibly charged criminally so the case was only getting bigger uh... too many young girls allegedly abused by jeffrey epstein thought they finally we're gonna keep justice they thought they were gonna see him walk into jail cell uh... it's unclear at this point what their thinking today if this is justice but jeffrey epstein the monster that they painted it is no more

CHAPTER 04 / 38 Discussion

Political Conspiracy Theories, Clinton Body Count Meme

Media figures like Joy Reid discuss the political connections of Jeffrey Epstein to Donald Trump and Bill Clinton. The "Clinton Body Count" meme trends on social media, while others suggest Attorney General William Barr may have played a role in the events at the federal facility.

joy reid· bill clinton· donald trump· william barr· occam's razor

12:10 And so this only helped that meme. I liked the opposing politicization, let me see if i can find it here... where is she? Yes, this is Joy Reid our favorite from MSNBC. friends with the current president of the United States who flew a previous president of the United States around on his plane, who is alleged to have trafficked girls to a member of the royal family. This is not a... this is you know on the same level like Bill Cosby. This is a famous person now who's now in prison he knows a lot about a lot of people and as you said earlier his only out at this point would be to talk about those people so

13:06 this very vulnerable situation. And then you throw in the fact, which I did not know until thank God Stephanie Goss was sitting here and told me this that this is now a facility under the control of the Department of Justice and this Department of Justice does not exactly inspire confidence let's just be blunt William Barr justice department is not one that you can readily simply rely upon and feel confident in so what do we make up all this now? That in this federal facility this person was allowed to be alone long enough harm himself or be killed by something. We don't know what happened, right? We just don't know." So the implication if you're on Twitter for more than 30 seconds and it has an Occam's razor ring to it that because there is no evidence that Trump flew on planes except one ferry flight back from Miami to New York when it was just him I think in the pilots... The flight log shows there's about six people in there

14:01 When when Trump was on it Yeah. Oh, and were they going from Miami to New York? That's what I...I didn't see where it was going. I just saw the somebody right one of the Lib Joes had cut it out and showed me. Who goes on this plane? Trump is on a plane! Okay so he was on the plane there are statements contrary to him being involved in that by the way can we say children instead of young girls or underage girls? To me a child as a 10 year old A 15 year old is a girl. Yeah, alright good luck with that. So I don't use...I wouldn't call a 15 year old child like a 10-year-old? I call the 15 year old the child. Well... Alright fine you call them girls or call them children

14:49 But the Occam's Razor aspect of it is, oh you know Trump clearly you know because in 2002 he even said you know Epstein great guy loves to party with girls on the younger side if you know what I mean. He disowned himself from this guys even knowing him That doesn't matter because over 15 years especially doesn't matter if you listen to and you think that Joy Reid was bad? You got a topper Oh yeah. In July of this year.

15:27 Trump, through Barr is new. Who as we know is not the Attorney General of the United States he's the attorney general for the president We've been told this over and over and over again so I have to believe that now That he put out a secret signal and said alright it's time to off Epstein Totally plausible in a very simple explanation So I have compassion for people who believe conspiracy theories. I don't think this is the right one, but i understand where people come from with this that if you know my favorite one of these off-the-wall kind of Occam's razor things as Scott Adams he just put this out recently Oh his Occam's razor was this bunch of incompetent boneheads running this prison the guy kills himself and that's also a perfectly valid explanation yeah

CHAPTER 05 / 38 Discussion

Amy Goodman, Democracy Now Trump Coverage

Amy Goodman is criticized for her framing of the relationship between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein during a Democracy Now segment. The hosts argue that her reporting lacks objectivity and relies on old quotes to imply a current friendship that does not exist.

amy goodman· democracy now· donald trump· jeffrey epstein· journalism

16:17 I mean, i'm not buying it but yeah that's all of that well if you do you'd be wouldn't be the no agenda show. If we were buying any of this stuff? No, of course not but it's good to look at all aspects before we just decide to move on the guy is not in the picture he's gone So in July of this year, Amy Goodman interviewed Vicki Ward. For some unknown reason you've been having a or you've been condemning on Twitter Well I'll tell you shortly why Yeah i'm sure you will but In the fact...I have four clips up they're very mostly short But the beginning clip which doesn't really involve Vicki Ward

16:56 is the example that I have that tops Joy Reid when we know that Trump hasn't spoken to Epstein for 15 years and maybe more, and the last reference to him saying anything about Epstein is in 2002. But yet Amy really makes it sound like they're best buds. Here it is Jeffrey Epstein has counted presidents Donald Trump and Bill Clinton among his friends They've flown with him Trump told New York Magazine in 2002 I've known Jeff for 15 years terrific guy He's a lot of fun to be with It's even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do and many of them are on the younger side Trump said about his friend Jeffrey Epstein again, this was before all the charges were brought

17:40 About his friend Jeffrey Epstein is though. They're like bosom buddies Yeah, this this is a classic example of Amy's bigotry when it comes to reporting on Trump I mean that this is unconscionable You can call it bad reporting you have all this lying Sorry? You can call it bad reporting, you can call it lying. You can call it framing. You could call anything but objective reporting Yeah there was...it just to me is why Amy Goodman is not really in a...should not even be considered a journalist

CHAPTER 06 / 38 Discussion

Vicki Ward, Vanity Fair Epstein Expose

Investigative journalist Vicki Ward is profiled regarding her 2003 Vanity Fair article on Jeffrey Epstein. Ward claims her editor, Graydon Carter, removed testimonies from underage victims, while the hosts question her social connections to Ghislaine Maxwell and the timing of her recent media appearances.

vicki ward· vanity fair· graydon carter· jeffrey epstein· ghislaine maxwell

18:19 Okay, so why don't you begin? I have plenty of stuff. Well let me tell you about Vicki Ward. So I got turned on to the Vicki...I heard Vickie Ward as she started to pop up on some... You know i'm always watching MSNBC and stuff during the day but she was popping up on CNN in fact she got hired by CNN just a few weeks ago And then I started to find interviews of her talking about how she wrote the initial expose in 2002 or 2003 for Vanity Fair. I believe it was Vanity Fair, and she went to her editor and her editor said no you gotta take all this underage girl shit out this is no good its just hearsay... This is HER story! So became much more of a profile, financial profile

19:06 Epstein and now she's saying well I warned you all about it and I think there was a couple things she wrote in 2008-2009 when that when the really light sentence came down on Epstein. As I'm searching around and this is probably the same time. I found amazing Polly, I see her as like an it girl in In New York high society type parties And she's always hanging out with Jill Jislaine Maxwell even though she's very condemning of Maxwell of Gisley Maxwell and all these interviews that she's been doing you know since

19:42 2009 and since she had written about Epstein and everything that happened. I'm like, well what is she doing piling around? It's just kind of weird so when she tweeted yesterday oh don't worry Gisle Maxwell knows more like what up girl You know her you're partying with her. You're pretending that your buddies were there so you tell me what's going on of course She doesn't answer because I'm just a crackpot blowing in the wind And I think that's where I saw more Background or got some background from From the Polly videos, and I find her to be a very interesting character she doesn't seem to have any real background yet she's written books about Wall Street fraud and all kinds of interesting topics and

20:27 Her, I guess it is her ex-husband. His...I think his boss or ex husband's boss was Maxwell's nephew or something? There's a connection there! They always have a connection from one to the next and you know so that's why i kind of leave it to the youtubers to do all that but Vicki Ward is a person of interest to me and I hope you have some interesting things Well, first of all I saw what you were doing and so I did my...I immediately went to work. And now I believe that David's suckered. I'm glad I could inspire you! I may have been suckered. Ah, ya fell into my trap looking for Vicki Ward. Nah, I'm sure you're fine. It is quite possible that actually did happen. Alright, uh, Vicki Ward is a very transparent character she goes back into the 90s and she has always been

21:28 extremely accomplished writer and something of a workaholic. And so she's cranked, but she doesn't crank out enough... So many books and enough books with enough inside scoop to make me think that in any way she's MI6 which is what the amazing Polly implies which is bullshit there's no way I went back and listened to her as she's been on TV a lot I'll give you her whole story. She graduated from Cambridge and she wanted to become a journalist, she became a newspaper writer in London for the Daily Standard, The Telegraph. She bounced around and became an editor for awhile. She's very good at what she did and she married this guy first and she writes a very long essay on her divorce that ran in 2011. She marries this guy

22:18 who she probably shouldn't have married and they never got along, and they were pretty much separated by 2011 when they finally got divorced. And he's the one who drug her out of England because he is a nephew of Conrad Black. Oh, black! That's right not Maxwell, black yes I'm sorry. Yes, Conrad Black said come on kid you join my operation out here in Canada and United States just move it they made him had to moved New York she didn't want to do it she moved to New York but because of And if she's anything, if you want to say she's something odd. She might be a lizard Can I just interject one crazy yarn connecting conspiracy data point? Sure Conrad Black about a month ago maybe six weeks ago was pardoned by President Trump Right

23:10 That was interesting. Conrad Black was. That was interesting! But Grail wrote it anyway, so... Doesn't matter! It should have been pardoned All of a sudden? Just the timing is always fun Well her relationship to Conrad Black was dubious because she never worked for any of his magazines that I know of She may work for The Post for awhile and then she quit but she comes over here and because she's got a British- she's British and kept he accent, she never even tried to get rid of it She became one of the many British women over here that fit right into the upper class's structure. In fact, she wrote a whole book on the Asters or at least long article and she fit right in. She has to look just perfect kind

24:00 That socialite look. She's also, up until recently she had a non-profit that worked with the United Nations and she's in all kinds of just like Angelina Jolie special United Nations programs and there's the woman who is the direct descendant of Queen Victoria who is on her board I mean she really is in the British society But it's not the British society. It's the American... American-British side, yes! The outcasts likely. It is our social thing and the British are so welcome because they fit right in and even though if in Britain she was a newspaper girl yeah she did a bunch of books and there all the books tend to be celebrity she really if anything is a celebrity reporter

24:43 She roamed in and out of various kinds of celebrity circles, and met a lot of people. And she would run into Ghislaine Maxwell numerous times but she wasn't hanging out with her there's no evidence of that. There was some MI6 connection that happened in 2011 according to Amazing Polly but she was not even associating with her husband by that time very well described in her discussion In the magazine article that she wrote for The Daily Mail about her divorce. So what happens is this Jeffrey Epstein thing breaks and she did have a couple of pieces about the girls in that article, all of a sudden out of the blue

25:28 Now the question in my mind is, she's so out of the blue. She says well I warned everybody she something of a phony. She's kind like a Kitty Kelly type of writer who maybe makes things up now and again very well structured writer if you wanted to really bring out anything in 2003 when she ran that article she could have shopped at someplace else if she wanted to. Ronan Farrow didn't put up with no for an answer over and over again. So she wasn't that serious about these, she had some information... If it was even true at all

26:07 Maybe not just her word saying that they cut it out. It's possible, but Graydon Carter did come out with a statement Okay He says that that she wasn't well presented and he just thought it should be cut out So he did cut it out so there's not she didn't make that up necessarily But the circumstances of them cutting it out may have been due according to her when I have some clips or her bitching about it only now bitching about it I think the following happened personally from looking at her career and what kind of a writer she is, and who she hangs out with. And her celebrity status in that social structure that we know nothing of, you have no idea those things show up in town and country the people are these parties there's photos are all over the place it's like the Palm Beach Florida social set I don't know who any those people are but they all seem to know each other. If I believe following happened with her

27:03 no matter what everybody says. She wrote this piece on Epstein and she had some stuff, she had some hints about the girls. This is the 2002 piece? In 2000...she wrote it in 2002 around 2003 That was cut out, it was turned into a financial piece which she admits and seemed to be written that way to begin with All of sudden thing breaks, the Epstein stuff And people have to say look You did a whole piece on this guy. You know there's just Layne Maxwell, there are photos of her with you." What? Did you... what what what?! And so she is covering your ass! Yes By saying oh yeah well I had this and I did it She was clueless she said celebrity reporter She didn't know that Epstein was running anything Yeah but hold on when i say all i'm saying is why would she

27:59 nine years after the fact Even want to be okay, so there's no evidence. They were partying but they were at the same parties and taking pictures together I know how it works the photographer comes by said hey take a picture cuz you're talking and then y'all snow two or three people you stay But why why if she knows all this and I have a clip from her just yesterday She sure does he sure did then in 2011 2014 There's pictures of her with Maxwell of course she knew that then she writes about it She writes about everything after the fact. The issue here is what happened in 2003, where she got her piece was like... No I'll be quiet but I disagree In 2009 she definitely knew that Maxwell was involved because that's in the document all of the accomplices were protected by the deal that was signed She knew it in 2009 like everybody else

CHAPTER 07 / 38 Discussion

Graydon Carter, Editorial Pressure at Condé Nast

Vicki Ward describes a private meeting between Jeffrey Epstein and Graydon Carter that allegedly led to the sanitization of her 2003 reporting. The hosts debate whether Carter was a "pussy editor" or a pragmatist avoiding a massive lawsuit from Epstein's high-powered legal team.

graydon carter· conde nast· vicki ward· jeffrey epstein· democracy now

29:01 That's my point. Yet, 2011-2014 she is taking pictures with her that's my point She knew it in 2009 We knew it in 2009 It has been in the press since 2009 Well okay we knew it in 2009 and she knew it in 2009 so what? What does that got to do with being a bad actor or MI6 I didn't say that No that was what your buddy Famous Pauly said Yeah but I didn't say that I'm just going for simple stuff Let's go to Amazing Polly. most recent arrest and what comes next, we're joined by Vicki Ward, an investigative journalist who profiled Jeffrey Epstein for Vanity Fair in 2003. In a piece headlined The Talented Mr. Epstein, the magazine's editor at the time, Graydon Carter cut out the testimonies of two young women Epstein allegedly molested who had spoken to Ward on

30:04 the record, one of them underage. Ward wrote about what happened with her Epstein reporting for The Daily Beast in an article headlined I Tried to Warn You About Sleazy Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein in 2003. Welcome back to Democracy Now! It's great to have you with us Vicki. Thanks. For people who do not understand who this man is, he's referred to as billionaire hedge fund manager Jeffrey Epstein. Who is he? And what do you believe he is being charged with right now? The indictment is about to be opened. So I don't think he's a hedge fund manager. He is certainly very wealthy.

30:44 There is great mystery as to how he actually made his money. He tells people that he advises, he takes a percentage and he advises billionaires only I won't take anyone poorer than a billionaire and that he takes the cut which adds up to a lot of money this when i investigated him in 2002 really turned out to be untrue. What was interesting was that the man who claimed to have sort of taught Jeffrey many financial tricks and who claims, to this day, that Jeffrey has his money is a gentleman by the name of Steve Hoffenberg, who went to jail for 20 years for committing the biggest Ponzi scheme pre-Bernie Madoff

31:36 Okay, I never know about that so she had that uncovered which doesn't surprise me. Okay, let's go to clip two. Vicki Ward you were doing the first pieces back in 2008 how old are your twin daughters right now? Twin sons 16 years old so that is very significant because you were pregnant at the time you were doing this piece can you describe what happened to you when you wrote this piece you spoke to Jeffrey Epstein multiple times he wheeled out you know, all these important bankers and academics and financiers to talk to me. And he would call me all the time but... He would threaten me! He would talk and then he would say, you know, Vicky if I don't like this piece... You know?

32:26 Something's gonna happen to your unborn children You know and it he would sort of say in as you know lightly But uh, you know I went to the magazine's general counsel at the do actually put security on them in the NICU And when they came early He had asked me what hospital they were going to be born out. So I actually did put security on them They were born two months prematurely Well, that was kind of creepy. Yes! And so then we go to the last part where she discusses the grade in Carter incident plausible he had his girlfriend uh... gillen maxwell who very charming well-educated british sort of socialize around me is a very significant she's the daughter of robert rapswell owner of the new york daily news so good and was the one who phones this these young women's mother to reassure her how safe they would be um... and because of course that the poor mother now blames herself terribly

33:29 for what happened. And, you know I talked to there are numerous people the artist Eric Fischel was a friend of the older daughters... Couple things you want to back up where she has a town. Where's she in the timeline by the way? Okay, she's in the timeline of two girls who Epstein was assault they were younger that wanted to go to college and he was gonna pay for their college and just laying But they had to move in and do stuff to him. And Ghislaine was the salesperson who talked the moms into letting this happen. Right, but when did that happen? When did she know about it? That's all I'm curious about is that... This is right from the 2003 era Okay yeah okay so she knew back then supposedly. She has a tell I think uh-huh there's some stuff

34:24 She's in the same category again as Kitty Kelly and some of these other... Michael Wolff is in this category. Very famous kind of celebrity writers who do make, known to make stuff up. Michael Wolff has got all these Trump books a lot of the stuff is bullshit. Yes! If not all of it. But I believe that Vicky's in the same category Writer and I think her tell is the use of the word and twice in a row instead of saying and she says and and Interesting plausible. He had his gun, I think two or three times in the piece friend Galen Maxwell who very charming well-educated British sort of socialized around me it was very significant She's the daughter of Robert

35:07 So, a former owner of The New York Daily News. Yes. So, Ghislaine was the one who phoned this—these young women's mother to reassure her how safe they would be. And because, of course the poor mother now blames herself terribly for what happened. And I talked to... there were numerous people. The artist Eric Fischel was a friend of the older daughters'. They all verified they remembered these two women recounting their trauma at that time So brave we all go through this and then to suddenly find at the 11th hour that somehow Jeffrey

35:48 got to the editor of the magazine. This story was being pulled— I was told— Wait a second, he came into Condé Nast's offices? Yes. He came in. I had no—I was not told about this. He came in. He had a private meeting with the magazine's then-editor, Graydon Carter, after which I was informed that Graydon believed Jeffrey Epstein. I was told that Jeffrey Epstein had told Graydon that he was quote-unquote sensitive about And so they would be pulled from the story, so it would now be a business story. And, uh— About what? A business story. Well it was a business story that explained that Jeffrey Epstein was not who he claimed to be in his professional life but the very powerful awful stories of what happened to these women got taken out which and I'm— And these girls are they involved— So the tell is after she lies

36:48 That's the way I'm reading it. I can't say for sure one way or the other, there is some truth in whatever she is talking about For example, the Graydon Carter story itself which may be where the end comes from afterwards Yeah that's kind of what I thought It was very dubious on her part Carter is considered one of the greatest editors in history of magazines Ah well that's suspicious right there then Well, this is not susceptible to pressure. There's some reports that the story she's telling is not actually accurate and Epstein didn't show up to talk to Carter he showed up with a bunch of high-powered lawyers

37:34 Telling him look you can run this if you want but you're gonna be sued out of existence as a magazine and I don't think your bosses at vanity at Condé Nast are gonna Be too appreciative of the kind of troubles You're gonna cause if you run this piece And so much for being one of them so much for being one of the best editors. What kind of pussy editor is that? Guy who's smart Let's listen to her tell again But the very powerful, awful stories of what happened to these women got taken out. And I— And these girls, are they involved with the case that's being opened today where he is being brought into a Manhattan court? I don't know. I have heard—I have not confirmed that. One source has told me that possibly they are.

38:26 Which for me would be... 16 years later. 16 years later, because one of the things that has haunted me is that there I was trying to expose this man in 2003 and the original, the first FBI investigation The one that got neutered by Alexander Acosta didn't begin until 2006. So it's always been on my conscience that for three years he molested hundreds of sort of helpless poor women who were in no position to fight back against him. I just want to go back, because you made a pretty interesting statement that Graydon Carter is one of the great all-time magazine editors...I'm paraphrasing but that's how it came across should this guy not be hanging his head in shame for rejecting one of the biggest stories of our lifetime?

39:22 Should he not be taken down a notch or two? With his comment, no. Not necessarily because you can't run like that unless it's rock solid Well I never saw the original so i don't know well he didn't she wrote it and i wonder if it was rock solid His claim is simple The story was not rock solid And when you're an editor at that level with a magazine which is high paying magazine, I mean this is not...this is the big leagues. This is the major leagues everything has to be pretty much battened, the hatches have to be battened down. You can't put anything out there that's gonna cause trouble. So did Amy try to move this towards someone else? Did she try to pin it on Trump while she was having this conversation? Yeah it's Trump. Trump did it! I wanted to make sure... Trump was actually the editor. I want to make sure it's Democracy Now we're listening too and not some fake program. All right

CHAPTER 08 / 38 Discussion

CNN Correspondent Vicki Ward, Epstein Conspiracy Claims

Vicki Ward, now a CNN correspondent, discusses the "ecosystem" of the Epstein case and the potential for future indictments against co-conspirators. The hosts analyze her speech patterns, noting a "socialite stammering" that they suggest appears when she is being untruthful or self-promoting.

vicki ward· cnn· bill clinton· alan dershowitz· les wexner

40:23 So is that the end of that clip? Yes, I have a And and uh-uh. I have a current clip from Vicki Ward who's now a correspondent for CNN This is from July of this year right but I have one from like this morning and Now what has led to these charges of sex trafficking you know of teenagers This is part of that big network It is part of the big network and I think you know Frederica that what so what had so many people interested and on the edge of their seats about This, what would have been Jeffrey Epstein's trial but that still really matters. Is the trial if you like off the ecosystem because don't forget the original indictment talked about a conspiracy there have been many

41:15 other important powerful names brought up in connection with this case former president Bill Clinton, the lawyer Alan Dershowitz, the financier Leon Black, Les Wexner the retailer last week saying, you know I gave Jeffrey Epstein power of attorney but i discovered in 2007 he stole millions and millions from me. But it begs the question then why did Leslie Wexner not go to the authorities? And I think that all... The fact that the case still is going to sort of go forward means

41:53 all the people connected to it after all it was a conspiracy should still... Let me back that up for second. There's been no official word that the case is going forward, this was yesterday, no official word the case is going forward she states that as fact The fact that the case still is going to sort of go forward means that all the people connected to it after all it was a conspiracy should still think that they're going to be questioned. Well, some of the attorneys for these accusers have said that even in his death they will continue to pursue avenues to find those responsible whether they are co-conspirators you mentioned Maxwell whose name appears but this case is not dead because

42:46 Jeffrey Epstein is. Listen, they're telling us to say something! I'm just hearing it now you can hear this is Fredrika Wilson I think Fredrika's Wilson I think her name on CNN she's an airhead she you can hear them telling her what to say or not the same there are co-conspirators and you mentioned Dino Maxwell whose name you know appears but that this case is not dead because Jeffrey Epstein is for now. Alright, Vicki Ward thank you so much for your time. Another thing you're noticing is that and I have a clip from Vicki Ward from 2007 which was the earliest thing I could find she has developed this kind of socialite stammering that apparently the reason she has it because she caught it like a disease

43:38 Because when you hear in 2007 she doesn't have it. She has it now and It's so contagious that this woman that is interviewing her isn't out picking it up I'll play here she stammering Here's the 2007 clip let's get a background first on Brooke Astor Tell us a bit about who she is as and how she became, so wealthy and such a great philanthropist Brookester came into her fortune actually almost by accident She was married three times first very unhappily. Next to the love of her life, a man named Buddy Marshall and her young son Tony from her first marriage actually took his stepfather's surname Tony Marshall and when she was in her 40s she found herself widowed and that was when She really got to know the very very wealthy Vincent Astor

44:29 who was a grumpy, pretty miserable man. Their marriage lasted five years and when Vincent Astor died to Brook Astor's enormous surprise he left her all his money and she set about carving a character for herself that really didn't exist before and hasn't existed since. She gave away more money to more charities than I think New York has ever seen, and she did so in a style that was unprecedented and unrivaled. Well where was the stammering? None! Zero

45:07 Huh, interesting. Now another thing that does cause stammering is unsure-unsureness Lying? Or lying or talking about something she knows the Aster story and went on NPR and just came right out Not a problem She doesn't know I still think this is a cover that she wanted to reinsert herself into the story because she did write that piece in 2003 there's no doubt about it there it is But she's been kind of out of the picture regarding it and now she gets a gig on CNN, and she gets her stuff back in the news. And she's floating around as she gets to promote her book which is her newest book, which is the Kushner Inc. Book, which is another kind of a slam against Jared Kushner and she obviously I don't know if she's running to her New York in the party scene or whatever She hates Ivanka! Ooh! And I do have a clip of that but let's finish this thing you've got where you get this stammering going back and forth every which way It was over it was the end Oh it was over? I couldn't tell Sorry

46:10 Yeah, but here she is. This is a well hold on one second so in the most recent report she mentioned every other possible...she keeps saying it's a conspiracy this is a conspiracy the fact that that the other people will be investigated she states that as fact and yeah I'm just saying she may be a great writer but she's pretty shitty because I don't know about being a fact yet certainly not yesterday and she doesn't mention Trump Which is either a glaring mistake or on purpose. She's gonna keep that gig on CNN, I bet you she's not there for more than six months

CHAPTER 09 / 38 Discussion

Kushner Inc, Ivanka Trump White House Influence

Vicki Ward's book, Kushner Inc., explores the dynamics of the Trump White House, claiming the President wanted Jared and Ivanka to return to New York. The reporting suggests Donald Trump's inability to say no to his daughter makes the administration function like a family business.

ivanka trump· jared kushner· vicki ward· john kelly· white house

46:47 If she's not talking about Trump being complicit, no it's not gonna work for her. She doesn't get that part? So this book about Kushner Inc., which I have not read it and I've seen the cover...I know what Kushner is doing with Win Red, I don't know about anything else except for all the stories so she does not like Kushner nor Ivanka Kushner. She doesn't like Ivanka mostly and you can tell in her voice She discusses this on MSNBC when they're talking about her book, and you can tell in her voice there's some disdain. And I'm not sure what it is. It may be the possibility that she has a British... British what? Just has a dislike for her that's visceral. You know, you've had that before with somebody who just really don't like her

47:39 And she just slams her in this piece. I thought this was quite an interesting, now I don't know where she got this information or even if it's true It may have been picked up by research. I don't think it was an intelligence source. I just don't see it. I had the sense that you might have been going after as an intelligence asset. Why are you stammering? This is worrying me now! So let's just play this clip... That at the end of the day, the President's great Achilles heel is actually his daughter. He had said to John Kelly when General Kelly became Chief of Staff that he really wanted them gone You know, he doesn't like it when people other than himself

48:26 draw negative attention to the White House. It's fine if he tweets something and that creates a firestorm, it is not fine if somebody else reflects poorly on him He hated their misuse of private emails because that was something he had gone after Hillary Clinton with So he said to General Kelly you know get rid of them they waffle on us send them back to New York make their life so miserable they want to quit And General Kelly was successful. If you look at the period when he was Chief of Staff, Jared and Ivanka were very quiet during that period It's the President who couldn't pull the trigger

49:09 And I think that shows that ultimately Ivanka more so than Jared. Jared is there because he's her husband, but the president cannot say no to his daughter which means this White House is essentially a family business." Hmm... She has got some of the talking points there! I liked it! Some of them are good Hmm. She's no slouch, but let's move forward to this year and move away from Vicki Ward I don't think we're gonna get much more except keeping our eye on her and i still want to know where Magillane Gislaine Maxwell is What of course hours after this reporting came out? We were all kind of waiting for okay what are we going to hear from the president And here's the Chip Todd Chuck

CHAPTER 10 / 38 Discussion

ShareBlue Media, Anti-Trump Trolling Instructions

Leaked instructions from ShareBlue Media, now led by former NBC executive Allison Girvin, advise "Stalwarts" on how to counteract right-wing messaging regarding Jeffrey Epstein. The "Rollcon" strategy involves operatives pretending to be conservatives to spread specific talking points while avoiding direct links to court documents.

shareblue· media matters· david brock· chuck todd· disinformation

49:59 Gregory Todd talking about the Trump tweet a few hours after the news of Epstein's death President Trump waited in sharing an unfounded conspiracy theory speculating about how the financier may have died The president of the United States retweeted a conservative commentator and comedian who wrote quote How does this happen Jeffrey Epstein had information on Bill Clinton? And now he's dead again. The president retweeted that Chuck Todd is NBC's political director So, mind you a comedian but okay. And moderator of Meet the Press Chuck good morning I wish you and i could sit here and say we're surprised that the president retweeted that But right away jumping to a conspiracy theory about his opponent in the last election and his family. Willie, think about what Donald Trump has done to American mass communication over the last two years I quite frankly am appalled and embarrassed by the amount of responsible people that have jumped right into a conspiracy theory on this Yes, the president is sort of leading the irresponsible charge here but there's a lot of people on social media

51:04 The tweets, this was just a classic Trump retweet. So what? It's not... Anything more than that? He thought it was funny. I Thought it was funny. Yeah, why don't these guys think it's funny well Why don't you ask your libjo friends? I'm sure they're all over this in the same way that Chuck Todd is of course It's too seriously these people are idiots now This morning that you probably saw this, you know Cher blue is this It's kind of an outgrowth of media matters and they it's a techno experts. Its trolls its trolls who go around and troll stuff and mainly to troll the takedown advertisers You know, they're cancel people or cancel culture The first thing I didn't know is that David Brock is no longer running it This is new Allison Girvin is the new CEO share blue

52:01 And he's an NBC News executive? I thought Brock was running Media Matters, never ShareBlue. Oh yeah! It's an outgrowth of Media Matters. ShareBlue is big that's where a lot of money goes into that and so but i did not know that this guy had taken over just last month he headed NBC's, uh...NBC News' Business Tech and Media Unit. What was his name? Allison A-L-L I-S-O-N Girvin G-I-R V-I-N And that's the guys name? Yeah it's a guy. I'm sure he's elitist. Umm..and they had a message for their trolls which they call Stalwarts The ShareBlue Stalwarts and i'll read this

52:50 So this is what goes out to the online techno expert trolls who are supposed to go and do something. And it looks like it's pretty well organized outfit. Stallwarts, by now most of you will have seen the recent news regarding the death of Jeffrey Epstein already The news is being used by far-right activists to spread smears and conspiracy theories on social God I wish I could talk like that on social Yeah Well if you did if you could talk like that You'd be selling merch Despite being both harmful and untrue, there's clearly a very concerted effort from the right to reach the public consciousness. As you can see on your dash

53:41 Dear Dash, the past few hours have seen a rapid swell in far-right disinformation. So they have some kind of dashboard known as a DASH capital D where they can see I guess stats on you know that the right wing trolls...I'd love to see some this. I'd like to get to Dash! As such As such, we need as many stalwarts as we can to counteract this, promote our own messaging and discredit the claims being made. You can find the keynotes regarding Jeffrey Epstein at your dash and navigate to the appropriate conversation

54:23 As this is a breaking story, the keynotes I guess that's their talking points are currently bare bones. Any stalwarts who can help in adding to them would be greatly appreciated It is of utmost importance we act fast and face these smears head-on with the correct messaging Currently the messaging you so it says currently that is colon do not So this is what the dash says You should do not do Do Not deny the possibility of foul play Do not excuse Epstein of his potential crimes or the doubt or doubt the validity of his guilt do not link to the current court documents regarding Epstein Or use them in constructing your argument because boy that would be crazy However, do Wow. Yeah, isn't that great? do Sympathize with the potential victims of Epstein do remind people of the prior allegations of President Trump

55:20 talking subject 14c, do remind people of Trump's prior quotes regarding Epstein and their proven interactions. Subject 34 live article currently bare bones Do remind people of the power that the president of the United States holds in comparison to members of the public and five as always ROLL CON uppercase r-o-l c-o-n Once again we need as many stalwarts activists possible Rollcon is not that hard to figure out once you search around. It means play the role of conservatives, so pretend to be conservative... Oh lie! Use these talking points don't point to the original document and implicate Trump That's great well this guy comes from NBC News I'm all in now with that in mind

56:15 Let's listen to this article again. Jeffrey Epstein had information on Bill Clinton and now he's dead. Again, the president retweeted that Chuck Todd is NBC political director Okay let see if Todd can get all the do points right And moderator of Meet The Press Chuck good morning I wish you and i could sit here an say we're surprised that the President re-tweeted that But right away jumping to a conspiracy theory about his opponent in the last election and his family. Willie, think about what Donald Trump has done to American mass communication over the last two years I quite frankly am appalled and embarrassed by the amount of

57:04 of responsible people that have jumped right into a conspiracy. I think this may be point four, remind people of the power the president United States holds in comparison? I think that maybe point four Can you ring the bell when you catch each one of these talking points? By the way good catch on the talking points and it's pathetic they're so easy to identify Chuck Todd as a stooge A roll con Yes, the president is sort of leading the irresponsible charge here. But there's a lot of people on social media I mean it is to the point where

57:41 I think it's way ahead of any investigation here. I think it just shows you how, particularly the president and the way he sort of warped information attacked the press fake news conspiracy theories all that stuff which she is embraced over the years. I think the fact this my biggest concern is that you can tell there's a virus that is spreading so let's set that aside with what the president did there because its is a this is that's a horrendous virus as for Epstein Look, I think you're seeing bipartisan outrage. We are... You know we have some senators who have been so mute on other issues they see the Epstein thing almost as an opportunity to say oh i get to be outraged about something and I don't have to make Donald Trump mad So you're going to have some of those people coming after the Justice Department here but you're also gonna have others that are going to come after the Justice Department for what they believe

58:33 So I think Bill Barr's in the hot seat. The entire justice system is in the hot seat on this one there. And you'd like to think the president of United States would tamp down some of the conspiracy theories, but again he's elevating them Yeah, well they didn't do a very good job on the talking points. He's not elevating anything! He just mentioned that Epstein was a buddy with Bill Clinton and that's it. Where is the conspiracy theory? He didn't mention the hit list he didn't do anything that would elevate anything. He's trolling these guys by the way Mental health and suicide is of course a serious business, and we're making very light of it here on the show. We need to talk about some specific mental health issues that have been in the news recently so I did want to bring this short public service announcement everybody Are you at risk for accidental suicide? If you are then this advice may help Avoid police custody or any protective custody or incarceration Do not spend anytime alone in high rise apartment

CHAPTER 11 / 38 Discussion

Accidental Suicide Public Service Announcement

A satirical public service announcement warns listeners about the risks of "accidental suicide," advising them to avoid police custody and always vote for Democratic nominees. The segment references a joke about "XOXO Hillary and Bill" being scrawled at the Epstein mansion.

suicide prevention· satire· hillary clinton· bill clinton· political humor

59:32 Avoid small aircraft, hot tubs skiing canoeing long drives on lonely mountainous roads or simply being in a remote place. Always vote for your Democrat nominee in federal state and municipal elections should anyone start up an awkward conversation you simply smile politely and say I'm with her follow these steps to reduce your chance of accidental suicide today Brought to you by your local no agenda affiliate station exactly yeah good good advice I love that someone Scrolled in chalk in front of the Epstein mansion in Manhattan XOXO Hillary and Bill Sick people man It's very funny

CHAPTER 12 / 38 Discussion

The Truth Factory, Mossad Honey Trap Theory

The Truth Factory YouTube channel posits that Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were Mossad operatives running a "honey trap" operation. The theory suggests the duo used hidden cameras to record prominent figures in compromising positions for the purpose of international blackmail.

the truth factory· mossad· honey trap· blackmail· prince andrew

1:00:24 Okay, do we have any well I guess the only thing for me and I don't know what you have is like I would be remiss as Lane Maxwell thing. Yes. Yes And then I would say we would be remiss if we didn't listen to Pachanik's take I didn't think you had much to say in that particular last one. I thought it was a couple amazing polyclips which i could gladly quit now let's do this but amazing poly, i don't listen to her i don't think she is that good i think she invites associative kinds of condemnations and I think she's full of shit with a lot of stuff because it was just not accurate. But the person i do like, who I think is does nice little documentaries on the YouTube and that is The Truth Factory Talking Cat

1:01:14 Yes, the truth factory talking cat is pretty good. Yes. Well here's her- Here's the talking cats little thing on Maxwell where they target Gislaine I believe the real brains behind the entire operation was Gislaine as this was not a first rodeo surrounding herself with pedophiles In 1986, she was allegedly caught in compromising sexual photos with former British MP Harvey Proctor who liked to spank naked little boys with a riding crop. From there she attached herself to Epstein and his money becoming the handler of the young sexual victims and just like her father Maxwell and Epstein were both likely working for the Mossad

1:01:56 This theory was made credible in Acosta's comments when he said he'd cut the non-prosecution deal with one of Epstein's attorneys because he had been told to back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade. I was told that Epstein belonged to intelligence and to leave it alone." But what would intelligence services want with a disgusting sex offender? Probably the same thing that the Mossad got by filming Robert Maxwell's sexual exploits. They would use agents of influence like Epstein to blackmail rich and powerful people. Jeffrey Epstein was running a honey trap! In 2006 court filing, Palm Beach police noted that a search of Epstein home uncovered two hidden cameras

1:02:39 In a 2015 civil lawsuit filed by Jane Doe No. 3, who is likely actually Virginia Roberts seen here with Gislin and Prince Andrew she accused Maxwell of having recruited her in 1999 when she was only a minor After Maxwell introduced her to Epstein She was groomed by the two of them for his pleasure She asserted that Maxwell Epstein had trafficked her and other girls, often at sex parties hosted by Epstein at his homes. And alleged that Epstein wired his mansion with hidden cameras secretly recording orgies involving his prominent friends and underage girls. You know it just she just brings it in I mean she discusses the woman yeah but the one thing I got a kick out of was this little other thing The Honey Pot clip where

1:03:32 This is the kind of thing that somebody who has any brains probably would have done if it was presented to them, especially the way it was presented. This a story about a journalist who went to one of the parties and I think these cameras which we've discussed on other shows were used mostly for the purposes of getting other people to shut up, not necessarily the click of pedophiles which I still think was a kind of just a club as opposed all blackmailed. I don't think they necessarily wanted, you know what i mean? They blackmailed because they all know each other but I don't think it was the intent to blackmail them as it was to blackmail other people. To shut them up and this little anecdote coming up I thought was very on the money." Jeffrey Epstein's job was simple-to be a pimp and to find elite people in the U.S political and economic industries and compromise them. Journalist Eric Margolis even said when meeting Epstein for the first time

1:04:30 Soon after I walked into the entrance of Epstein's mansion, Butler asked me, Would you like an intimate massage sir by a pretty young girl? This seemed out of place and weird to me so I swiftly declined. As an old observer of intelligence affairs, to me this offer reeked of the ye old honey trap—a tactic to ensnare and blackmail people that was old when Babylon was young. A discreet room with a massage table, lubricants and no doubt cameras stood ready off the main lobby. This footage was likely used to blackmail elites afterwards for hush money Once you have that money you can buy more mansions cars more girls and have massive parties where you can connect to even more influential perverts that you can extort to keep growing this disgusting empire. Now this was in uh...in a- in an article I think I've read this

CHAPTER 13 / 38 Discussion

Epstein Deposition, Vacuum Pump Speculation

A 2009 deposition clip of Jeffrey Epstein is analyzed alongside a letter from a professional body modifier. The contributor suggests that descriptions of Epstein's "egg-shaped" anatomy are consistent with the long-term use of vacuum penis pumps.

jeffrey epstein· deposition· anatomy· medical speculation· producer eric

1:05:21 I don't think so. Yeah, this was a guy who wrote about this experience verbatim not have to look it up Look, the cat didn't go into the mansion. We know that! That would have been very... The talking cat would have been a surprise Now it's too bad that Epstein is dead, extracted gone whatever Although I still want to bring this important piece of information we had a..we replayed a recording of the Epstein deposition of 2009 Here's a reminder Put your right hand please Yes Do you solemnly swear testimony about to give away truth for whole truth and nothing but truths to help you God? yes i do

1:05:59 Could you please give us your name? Jeffrey Epstein. Is it true, sir that um... You have what's been described as an egg-shaped penis? Objection Your Honor! Let me give you the first warning Mr. Kuhneman That these types of questions are not only argumentative but... Let's get to the second version of the question If you continue with this type of question I will adjourn for deposition immediately Sir, according to the police department's probable cause affidavit one witness described your penis as oval shaped and claimed when erect it was thick towards the bottom but was thin and small toward the head portion. And called it egg-shaped those are not my words I apologize. But as Mr. Critton has stated that this is a

1:06:59 I've got information man new shit has come to light Yes, the no agenda producers never cease to amaze me with their with their experience background and information They're willing to share from producer Eric. We received Adam and John enjoyed the clip on the egg-shaped Epstein penis That's always a good opener for an email. I feel I feel I might be able to shed some light on this I was a professional pierce and body modifier in several underground communities in the late 90s and early 2000's. The term we had for guys back then was milk bottle dicks, because their penises looked like a milk bottle! These guy were penis pump addicts. They would use a vacuum pressure penis pump to enlarge their dicks

1:07:45 6. The anatomy of the penis is such that the shaft expands at a different rate than the head, making the base and shaft a lot longer and thicker than the head. My guess? We got a pumper on our hands." And I thought this was very interesting information because for sure i'm never going to buy a vacuum pump now! And I recommend no one do this! Wow...I can totally see that guy being a pumper Yeah, the more it gets better. The more you know better on the new agenda show I Should have had this one ready? All righty the more The more you know here it is that's the one the more You Know in the morning

CHAPTER 14 / 38 Discussion

Dr. Steve Pieczenik, Epstein Extraction Theory

Dr. Steve Pieczenik claims Jeffrey Epstein's death was an extraction by intelligence services rather than a suicide. He discusses the appointment of Vice Admiral Maguire as DNI and Governor Ron DeSantis's investigation into the original Florida prosecution deal.

steve pieczenik· mossad· cia· military intelligence· ron desantis

1:08:31 Alright, do you want to go through this Pachenik clip quick? We don't have to do every single piece of it. Yeah I did the Pachenik thing and then we'll be done for now right yeah okay so and Pachenik emailed me this link he said I wanted I want to record a long interview with you So he's got something to say and i'm going to talk to him on Tuesday And uh...I'll record it and we'll see what comes out of it but his quote was His quote was, I really want to talk to you about this. Let's record it many more going down. But like i'm interested when he says this You know so... I have no problem talking to our friend of the show Unsealed indictments okay Many thousands of unsealed indictments or sealed sealed indictments Who knows by the time I talk to him and maybe unsealed what do you know? Hi! This is Dr. Pachenik and let's talk about Jeff Epstein supposed suicide

1:09:23 Whether he committed suicide or is dead, or they took him out of jail is really not relevant. What happened today with Jeff Epstein is a travesty of justice and the law but also our intelligence system Several weeks ago, on July 15-16 I saw the story being developed where Epstein was decided that he's going to commit suicide and he had a rope around his neck and had marks on his neck. And there was some member in his cell which is absurd of course Epstein was in his cell now by himself His dynamic is such that he would never commit suicide He's too narcissistic bombastic I treated guys like this they don't commit suicide

1:10:03 Whatever you think of Pachanik, he does have the credentials to be able to make a claim like that. And he's not the only one making that claim? Who else has made this claim? A lot of people have said that he is too narcissistic and he is not suicidal. He's not a suicidal guy under any circumstances. Although I was reading a report somewhere else that claimed that pedophiles they commit more suicide than anybody especially pedophiles who abuse boys I don't know where that article is, but yeah. So there's conflicting information out there. No, I saw that too. But Pachanik has credentials in this area so unless he's bullshitting us... Not every pedophile commits suicide so some don't for some reason and

1:10:48 I think we can assume he's one of them. What we do is, we take them out and remember what i said a month ago several months ago? He works for Mossad and the CIA Why because he compromised so many political and economic figures that it was important for all of you to understand this wasn't just an individual This is a system that we funded And that we've been in alliance with the Mossad and the Jewish Americans who are leading us Now this was interesting, this glitch in the YouTube video is in every version you know every single time I looked at it. The minute he's going to say something about the Jews and America and this is a glitch... It literally glitches out

1:11:28 I'm gonna have to ask him what he said when I talk. But Pachanik is Jewish, we should mention that. Yes! That's why he said you should never talk about this the way I talk about it only I can do that. Okay? The system that we funded and that we've been an alliance too, the Mossad, and the Jewish Americans who are leading us Jeffrey Epstein, as I said to you is an operative. He's a poor jerk of a low-level Jewish guy who never amounted to anything and was grandiose The fact of the matter is that he had compromised a lot of people using make believe money and a fictional background what really is true is the following and most of you did not follow this

1:12:13 Two days ago a member of our military was appointed as director of national intelligence, McGuire. A vice-admiral of military intelligence now why is that important and what does that have to do with Epstein? Everybody wonders the answer is very simple Military intelligence which I've been part of for over four decades Is the only institution we can rely on that will not be compromised by the Mossad In turn, what happened is two days ago Susan Gordon who was the deputy of national intelligence behind Clapper and others was not appointed to become director of national intelligence. Now why is that related to Epstein? Because Susan Gordon is Jewish and she was close to John Brennan who's close to the Mossad so Trump in his wisdom as crazy people think was a fox in the hen house

1:13:08 I'm not exactly sure what Pucenic is saying here. I think what he means is that Trump is getting everyone around him who's a potential problem away, cutting all the potential issues out although...I think you and I still have questions as to who's writing his speeches possibly putting in Nazi code words and other weird shit there could still be someone in the orbit but I heard him say on one of those famous on the way to the helicopter stand up things on the White House lawn. Says, what do you think? Should I appoint Sue? Should it be Sue? Yeah, you want a vet her suit so he was goading kind of to see what the response was. I didn't get it at the time

1:13:52 I guess that this is distancing himself and everything from the CIA, who apparently would be implicated with Mossad in this Epstein platform almost. It was a given that Susan was going to get this job Oh okay so then there you go it was given by the hierarchy of the system? Yeah by the buzz, yeah. That's one of her turn... You know this happens government and every way. I mean, that's why Biden is his turn to let him be the next guy we continue to take exactly to go away from the CIA and the civilian intelligence and bring in military intelligence so Susan Gordon is out John Brennan is out The Obama people out the Clintons didn't do this This is far more sophisticated but also more awkward than you think

1:14:48 The reasoning goes as follows in the intelligence community. I know the CIA very well and I know the Mossad very well, they're not very bright when it comes to creating a storyline like Jeff Epstein. Now this part I like very much this is the part that I'm on board yes they created this beast and they created this incredible you know, pedophilia ring. But what they didn't understand and they couldn't come to any resolution was the fact that well we can't explain the suicide and will just say he's suicidal and he died in a cell by himself committing suicide That's called paradoxical intention. What that means is that we're going to use the most absurd concept and let you people, the civilians run with it as long as we can label conspiracy theories so on Wikipedia in The New York Times all they did was fall for this trap of paradoxical intention where they said okay its a conspiracy theory. The man killed himself in a cell which had no capability to kill yourself So who else was compromising? Why was this so important to come out now

1:15:50 Now, Governor DeSantis of Florida who is a JAG officer in the SEAL team and special forces and fought overseas decided he's going to have a Florida investigation at a prosecution of the Attorney General Jewish guy Berman who was involved as well as the police chief of Palm Beach who lied. Then we have a woman by the name of Jiffer who implicated Mrs. Maxwell, also implicated Prince Andrews of England. Now Andrews of England was accused of sucking the toe this 14 or 15 year old whether he did it didn't do is not important but point-of-fact is that Winsor family has always lied cheated and was corrupt

1:16:34 They're not Windsors, they're basically German. They were pro-Nazi in the beginning of World War II and had it not been for Winston Churchill we would have not had a successful England So what else was compromised? Richardson Bill Richardson of New Mexico Summers of Harvard A whole bunch of other individuals were compromised And as result to that The resolution had to be That Epstein Had committed suicide In our business, we say quise excuse secuse. Another one he who excuses himself accuses himself and also don't forget paradoxical intention you all will call this a conspiracy thank you and good night I'm not sure other than okay i looked yes there's an investigation that DeSantis has called for and apparently that starting to bring out everybody who was involved presumably also Acosta

1:17:32 Everybody who was involved with the light sentencing and the deal with Epstein is now being investigated. And of course we saw the documents which have been released, will there be more? I don't know... Bill Richardson definitely has some interesting stuff in his past with the Clintons Yeah, him and the Clintons are tight. Wasn't he also involved in Haiti somehow? Richardson... I don't remember that but I will say this about Pachinic's entire thesis where he kind of hints at the possibility saying it is not important but he hints at the possibility and I think he is actually saying that this was an extraction

1:18:15 Yes. In an offhanded way, because you had the right people to do it you had the CIA and the Mossads You know? And this hospital in mid... It's kind of a Midtown in Manhattan Hospital I mean the prison is federal prison and this all took place late in the middle of the night and there was suspect and next thing you know where's the body Yeah Well we know one thing identifying marks would be the egg And nobody really wants to see that. I sure don't! Well, we await the many indictments...the sealed indictments We await the takedown of The Swamp. I am extremely excited Not gonna hold my breath because otherwise it might look like a suicide But we'll uh... Nothing's gonna...we discussed this when it first started up

1:19:13 This is a, nothing's gonna happen. They're putting the kibosh on it, the kybosh one of the ways to pronounce these words. I will predict the following... We will see at least three more people go down one way or the other. Maybe heart attack, something else...three. You mean people dropping? Yeah, dropping going away, dropping disappearing whatever I'm not gonna say that because somebody who knows something about that's not part of it but somebody in the prisoners somewhere that knows what happened

1:19:50 and I would quit immediately and get out of town. Yeah, anyway eyes on Ghislaine eyes on Vicki Ward and eyes on the egg everybody keep me... Well I would further say Ghislaine is gonna nothing's gonna happen to her Vicki Ward it's gonna hold their job at CNN for a while that'll be the end of her it should be off do another book Nothing else will come of it except the people's names who get dropped or unfortunately mentioned in these documents which are going to be released. Well, it's gonna be a lot of guilt by association. Yes. Yes as long as we're not in there then I'm happy well I'm pretty sure we're not with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put The sea in the Clinton body count John C Dvorak in the morning to you mr Adam Corrine new morning all ships at sea feet in the air sub subs in the water And the dames and knights out there In the morning to our troll room

CHAPTER 15 / 38 Discussion

Episode 1162 Art, Comic Strip Blogger

The hosts thank Comic Strip Blogger for the episode 1162 artwork, which satirized a British Columbia human rights tribunal. They emphasize the importance of the "Value for Value" model and the art generator in supporting the show.

no agenda art· comic strip blogger· value for value· podcast art· human rights tribunal

1:20:50 And they're all over the map this morning. We've got about 1,300 trolls standing by doing what they do It's a regular 8chan here 4chan maybe a 2chan and one-and-a-half chance sometimes but it is no agenda stream calm where you can listen to great shows like this one 24 hours a day seven days a week and Many of them live you can troll along in in real time It's a very welcoming community come on by Noah gender stream comm also would like to thank the artist for episode 1162 the only did on Thursday titled that Thank You comrade, and this was a classic comic strip blogger with

1:21:28 They win for the CSB simplicity rules we were talking about Wait wait, wait. CSB is that the same guy? No he put comic strip blogger now He's changed his name and you're telling me that CSBC as I think maybe this You're right it matches up We had we did the story on The British Columbia human rights What does it Commission. No, it's not commission it's a better word tribunal yes the tribunal who determine if you are violating human rights of someone for instance who identifies as a woman but wants you to wax their private parts and did just there was a stick figure guy with the Canadian maple leaf were in the right spot it was well done we cracked up there was no doubt funny there was no doubt this was the one

1:22:24 And got a lot of comments on it. Guaranteed this works extremely well when people notice it in their podcast app, so thank you for helping us reach more people, Comic Strip Blogger and obviously thanks to all of the artists who participate in our Value For Value network system and provide this kind of value that really makes our show your show our show everybody's show much better And you can participate in that yourself at the show at no agenda art generator calm and thank you for your courage Now we did get a big response I think a lot of the reason We did very we had a lot of executive an associate executive producers. We didn't have a couple meetups which helps But I think that Epstein thing people know when something like this crops up today expect us to cover it

CHAPTER 16 / 38 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Knighting Ceremonies

The hosts process high-value donations from producers including Sir Mittens of Fall City and Sir Patrick of the Enormous Noggins. They discuss George Webb's research and grant new titles, including "Sir Rosis of Brookhaven" and "Sir Rillian Knight of the Santa Clara Valley."

donations· knighthood· george webb· steve pieczenik· dayton ohio

1:23:11 Okay, they start thinking of us. When you think of I should think of donating well this this adds interesting perspectives Which is oh and get more more guys like this to disappear Yeah, well good for the show it happens good for the show Sir Mittens of Fall Cities leads the list here with $777. Wow, fantastic! That's very nice. Thank you. ITM gents have done my damnedest to cut back on the verbosity this time. I do have a humble request though...I've wondered for weeks about the legitimacy of Dot Connecting conducted by George Webb and John O'Loughlin on their respective YouTube feeds.

1:23:54 I'm most interested, however in Steve Pchenik's estimation of the research presented on those channels. Any chance of playing proxy for me Uncle Adam? Especially before yesterdays paradoxical intention blurs the boundary between the dimensions in honor of Dr. P a closing quote look you're already in a jackpot and trying to get ya out it Thank you for your collective courage. Curative karma to all producers douche and non-douche alike. Yes, we're mittens of fall city. Well I feel we gave that to just moments ago so i think we did that for you and yeah I watched George Webb he does too much it's too long there's too much George Webb really but he has credentials the web has credentials I don't know much about John O'Loughlin well they're buddies the two web in Olafson effect is a couple

1:24:47 at least one time I've seen them on the same, together right next to each other talking and they tend to be... I'm not, I can say that. I don't pay any attention to either one of them personally Yeah, I certainly don't watch every one of their episodes when someone points something out or go over but it's in a way It's like the No Agenda show where there's a lot of referrals back to things that you kind of have to pay attention But I think is just too much is overload George Webb is overload for me. It's just too much content isn't like everyday He's doing something of an hour

1:25:24 So onward Sir Patrick. Well, hold on we gotta give out this curative karma to all producers here we go. You've got karma. Thank you sir Mittens! Sir Patrick of the enormous noggins in Clayton Ohio 56789 Nice This donation brings me to Viscount, attached accounting. If it pleases the committee I would like to claim the state of Ohio as a protectorate there's already a baron of Ohio but it looks like overlapping territories are allowed for different levels yes this is true so you can have that no jingles needed but please throw in some karma for the city of Dayton all right you've got karma

1:26:21 Sir GQ sent a note to Adam from Hanover, Maryland. No jingles no karma $333 and 67 cents is there anything in that note do you have it? Yes sir GQ Baron of Maryland my wife Stephanie let it slip she had made a donation for my birthday August 12th and the amount of three hundred thirty-three dollars that would put her three hundred and thirty three dollars and sixty seven cents away We made a donation of 333.33 in July 2018 from Dame Hood, even though she said Knighthood in her email I'm making an anonymous donation the amount of 333.67 as a birthday donation to her!

1:27:01 So she gets damed. She's not on the list no I guess this this email kind of slipped through Now it does she is shit? She does come in with The birthday shout out to her husband, so they didn't know this of each other honey Someone spent the rent That's very cute as if that's love right there um so yes Now I like the time that two people called each other as out as douchebags on the same show that both donated That's even better. Well, we're gonna hand out a big karma first of all and I think when you get to Stephanie's note more will become clear You've got karma That's our G sir Dave Fugazotto by kind of America's Heartland and Saudi Arabia 333 33

1:28:03 I'm sorry, yeah we got that. I'm sorry skipping around here seeing the anonymous thing. Ed Mubarak from my expanded holdings The annual Haj week has ended and Saudi Arabia is enjoying a holiday week off work health and travel karma please headed home to visit Dame Melody and Lady Isabella very soon i am trying to get over something picked up at club 33 which we posted in one of the newsletters, a photo of that place. Genuine Club 33 in Saudi Arabia or Egypt it was in Egypt. Needs karma headed home I had an awful full oh it's confirming he had apparently an awful falafel yeah which is nice title for sure. So the Keeper and I are having dinner with them next week? Or the week after? Yeah they're coming through Texas and were going to have a dinner

1:28:58 So I'll report on that for sure. Well, he's a world traveler so you should see what he is up to. Exactly! Here is the karma as requested. Wait a minute... You've got karma. I thought we were done? No, I'm not done. I just stopped. I just said an awful falafel and then he says douchebags donate keep on keeping on and thank you for your courage Dave Fugazotto. Okay yeah there's no Saudi Arabia Brian Holcomb, Palo Alto California 333.33 he was actually at the Berkeley meetup and he dropped off a check and left a note. And it's in longhand so I have to warn in advance affiliates. I want to thank you for preserving my sanity since I first began listening in 2015 I was going through some tough times and I was searching for bellwether weather of stability

1:29:53 It was an auto worker in Michigan, I was and desperately needed a change in my life and career. Since those cerulean days, I have found my own keeper and also just recently found a great job in the biotech field. It took awhile for the jobs karma to take but I am grateful it has. The move out of here at Silicon Valley has been out here to Silicon Valley has been tough at times, but I have prevailed. Yeah it's tough in terms of costs. I would like to call out Mark Hanson and Dustin Baum as douchebags. Douchebags!

1:30:41 This is my third handwritten note and my third install, very good by the way the handwriting. The check of 3333, does this make me a member of the 333 club? Well if you donate on show 333 it would for good measure in all karma to the future esquires I have also enclosed three pennies to assist in their journey of knighthood. Adam will keep those pennies for future use." In closing, I would like to... Oh, I should have mentioned this. I'd like the...I'd like to be named Cerulean Knight of the Santa Clara Valley. Oh he's already...okay you gotta put him on a list. I didn't say yes to Eric. Oh oh hold on a second. So well this is Brian Holcomb and now i have to do some work. Hold

1:31:25 Yes, he wants to be cerulean is c-e-r-u-l-e-a-n. Hold on Okay, sir Really in yeah, sure really in night of the Santa Clara Valley okay? And he does have something for the roundtable request which you're not gonna be happy with Okay, I don't care. The three are okay. He also says happy anniversary John and Mimi thanks Brian he wants just send your cash which i believe is the bush clip respect which is probably right there in front of you and pew-pew okay so just send your cash isn't that water or blankets? Isn't that how we... yeah it's a water blankets

1:32:19 It's somewhere else man. This is so old okay, what's the other one pew pew and respect? Okay respects got that one where's the pew-pew you see normally these days have been I got to take it to the bank. I don't know where the hell that thing is, the send your cash... It's like you know how long it's been since we used that? No no! I have that one maybe it's Bush Oh tell her the blanket water yeah it's been a while Send your cash damnit well I'm gonna do one more look let me see if I can find it now I'll have to owe that one too him

1:33:07 R-E-S-P-I-C-T You've got karma. That's very annoying that I can't find that one anymore Here is our coincidence, Stephanie Meyer who is married to Sir GQ Yeah Whose note you read Yes? I'd like to send a special birthday shout out to my amazing husband Sir GQ As he turns number of 33 on August 12th. That's interesting Although he's been a longtime listener one of your biggest fans and birthday boy this donation will be going toward my own knighthood Thank you both for keeping me us informed jingle requests thirty-three is the magic number thank you It's the magic

1:34:02 I'll hit a karma as well. You've got karma yes and Stephanie would officially be dame today, but i'm gonna hold off because if we don't have it I mean surprise that she received this from her husband So I think we should hold off until she tell us tells us what name She would like to use and we can do that on Thursday show does that sound good? This will be an executive decision on your part. I blame the Dutch guy, all right? Sure yeah i think we should do that just...I just want to make sure it's a big deal people want to have certain things at the roundtable and I want to make sure we provide Right! And there is better than doing a make good Yeah oh yeah much better than that

CHAPTER 17 / 38 Discussion

Orange County Meetup, Homelessness Ordinance

A report from the first Orange County No Agenda meetup highlights the community of teachers in the "Socialist Republic of California." The hosts transition into a discussion of homelessness ordinances and the challenges of organizing local events.

orange county· meetup· santa ana· homelessness· california

1:34:43 And we'll give her a special send off. Orange County meetups and tour is $60, so we have to decide on some of these meetups if you want to collect money, we have to have a designated money collector that sends us off, you gotta be pretty responsible. Mentions Amy Hagen, Nadia Luminadia Gruber, Heather Fucinari and Crystal Darrow all contributed. And there is a note, one of them. Now tell us about the meetup how many people were there and I know it was kind of impromptu so... It doesn't say we need to form well before one of these days start designing the forum oh i thought this was from the Oh this is the OC Meet up right? I'm sorry I think of the Berkeley meet-up yes

1:35:27 No, I incorporated the Berkeley meetup into the whole thing. Oh okay There is no separate Berkeley meetup one in the morning and thank you for your courage and closes a donation of $100 This is in the name of crystal Darrow We like to put our both of our names but Crystal feels slighted after our other donations have been attributed to only Ryan Moving on we're at both teachers The reason I'm reading this note normally don't read hundred dollar notes But this is attached it through 60 note And I thought it was worth reading Moving on, we are both teachers who live and work in Santa Ana in the Socialist Republic of California. And so are faced every day with colleagues whose amygdalas are at varying states of enlargement Your shows have been a lifeboat of sanity in our sea of derangement I wonder how many teachers out there like this? Oh, I think many

1:36:14 We recently hosted our first Orange County NA meetup, which they hosted this okay and it went swimmingly. Keep up with the nautical themed language. This was our first time setting up such an event so of course we wouldn't expect it to go perfectly and we were very sad to hear that some of the attendees couldn't find out find our tables The next OC Meetup will be planned with more care All right, it was and she goes on explaining the They need a health karma for dad in the beginning of a second year car for us as well to give them a karma You've got Karma She does have her see I think we're good. Okay onward sir Donald Barofsky

CHAPTER 18 / 38 Discussion

Dayton Shooting, Chipotle Employee Insight

Producer Aaron Chamberlain provides local insight into the Dayton shooting, noting that a friend worked with the shooter at Chipotle. The friend, a man from Guyana, reported that the FBI questioned employees and offered trauma counseling following the event.

dayton shooting· chipotle· fbi· guyana· aaron chamberlain

1:37:02 He came in with an unusual amount of $246.90, but he's still used the United Federation of Planets which I'm sure is running out of this letterhead. Gentlemen here is my combined donation for two months July and August 2 times 12345 Cheers! Donald Borowski Sir Donald of the Fire Bottles Viscount of Eastern Washington State. I love it thank you very much sir Donald appreciate it very good as long as its on the federation letterhead then we know all is well Yeah, no idea what the code numbers are. But yeah, you never know sir Paul Schneider in Edmonton Alberta priest credit credit me as Sir Paul Schneider Thanks FYI is Canadian 3333 okay so he becomes Yeah, it's the rule So he becomes an executive producer for today's program Aaron Chamberlain sent in a newt which I have printed out I did For one for once I did this in advance

1:38:01 It's a long note, but I know if I can cut it down a little bit. Sir Podfather and trustee sidekick aka Adam and John the trustee sidekick. Next I'd like to give... Okay he goes uh.. I've been freeloading for 1000 episodes sorry about that it is time to make amends please humbly accept this donation 23232 okay I like to get some insight on the Dayton shooting. I live in Dayton about 10... Hello? Yeah just coughed thats all Oh, I live in Dayton about 10 minutes from the shooting. We have a personal friend who came to us the Saturday evening after the shooting he was a co-worker of The Shooter!

1:38:38 And he actually worked with him the Friday night before. He told us he thought the guy was a little odd, but never got the vibe of a ruthless killer. Our friend told us about at time he actually went to the gun range with the guy and he thinks he held the rifle used in the killing. Needless to say our friend is a little shaken up. Yeah! He wasn't best friends with the guy but more than co-workers he went to a concert with the guy just a week before The FBI came to question the establishment he worked at, Chipotle. There you have it and offered one trauma counseling session for everyone that worked there if they needed an any additional sessions that insurance would help pay for. Chipotle is very generous by the way they'll let you take as much counseling as you want as long as somebody else is paying for it our friend is a black man who's from Guyana South America

1:39:30 So if the media defaults to calling this racially charged killing spree, I would argue the contrary. So nothing to report but I want to provide a little insight for the show That is interesting It is interesting The wife's birthday is a little early August 30th by one to give up you may have two sorry about this I didn't put this on their list to Eric Okay Birthday for my fine fine with cap all caps lady Laura Chamberlain Okay, no age. No Laura Chamberlain and she celebrates on the 30th. Okay, so digging a chances I'm in time baby and that's from Aaron right? Yeah, I've attached pictures of our dogs

1:40:20 Daisy, a Labradin. A Labradorian great Dane that must be something in... I didn't see the... Chihuini, the Mexican hot dog chihuahua and dash hunt not sure if you like to show... Not sure if they like to show they definitely people especially Diddy who will pee on you also cats too many attached only one gene kink bub fattest cat around but usually send newsletter Jingo request You're not gonna believe this. Yeah, no I'll believe if it's send your cash you're in... No it is PewPew. And then Obama phone which I have no idea oh yeah we got that and thanks Obama and please clap okay got the Obama phone. If its not too much to ask could do the three by three jingle at the end of the show? That's a lot to ask

1:41:11 I haven't heard that jingle for years. Keep up the great work and deconstruction of breath fresh air in this sucking society. Pew pew Obama phone, thanks Obama! And what was the other one? Clap please clap. Please clap...I thought we had a very short Obama phone I don't even know what Obama phone is. Yeah, yeah, i know what that is. It's so pew-pew. Thanks Obama! Please clap something like that. You've got karma. That worked out well. Took me a second. All right now we have anonymous $222 and 22 cents

CHAPTER 19 / 38 Discussion

Bronze Age Mindset, Frog Twitter Performance Art

A donor explains the "Bronze Age Mindset" and the "Frog Twitter" subculture, characterizing the author "Bronze Age Pervert" as a performance artist. The hosts discuss how journalists often mistake irony-laden internet memes for sincere manifestos.

bronze age pervert· frog twitter· el paso shooter· performance art· irony

1:42:05 I got an email this is Sir American carnage yeah anyway as his anonymous donation he says His nose is the brunch. The bronze age. Yes, email? Yes I said you guys note about acceleration ISM in the show with the same name a few months back I guess we didn't pick up on the Bronze Age Mindset which is this book slash manifesto which I read which was pointed out to me as maybe motivation for The El Paso shooter perhaps even Christchurch

1:42:45 It was very odd hearing you guys mention Bronze Age Pervert, he is the so-called author. As I have followed and interacted with him on Twitter for about three years. He is part of FrogTwitter! That's not Pepe but it's a niche reactionary irony part of Twitter. The best that can explain concisely is that Some on irony content Twitter, I guess that's like white Twitter or black Twitter. Irony content Twitter have performance art identities that never break character Bronze Age pervert is one of those yeah, I think I figured as much

1:43:25 Some are so involved and complex that they even write books under their Twitter identity name. Bronze Age Pervert has been trolling journalists and confounding the blue checkmarks on Twitter since before the 2016 election, His book is a meme extension of his identity. It's a social commentary under huge layers of irony performance Even the title is a meme joke play on the grifter dime-a-dozen mindset books of the last few years John was pretty much right You hear that? John was pretty much right. I didn't hear that, you broke it but what's up? John was pretty much right and if anyone committed a shooting over BAPS writing... That's Bronjade Pervert Then that is super cringe and they don't know the ethos of Frog Twitter And they got trolled So clearly we need to shut this shit down Because if we're going into areas Of performance art that are weird

1:44:21 But, okay. It makes nothing but sense I think that's a lot of what the chans are too is a lot of performance type art And it's a postmodern art form and I think definitely yeah, and I think that you nailed it nights. I Definitely had my questions like this could be fake. I don't know what's going on So yeah, so I'll ignore all ignored from now on Because I have my time can be spent on better things than reading 98 pages of the Bronze Age pervert But thank you. I appreciate the Appreciate the knowledge. So again the more you learn on the No Agenda show.

1:45:13 I've been quietly observing as so much unfolds behind the scenes. I like watching The Wizard of Oz pulling the switches and all the while people continue to argue over partisan issues, it's good to know that there are others out there that see there is more than meets the eye. Please send some jobs Karma as I am relaunching a platform and also starting a new venture this year hopefully i can help too! Aha! P.S., I'm not sure if this is how it works, I sent 221 because it adds up to 5 numerology for freedom and change and my number sorry It's not more that what I can afford No very happy thank you very much Kimberly And here's your jobs karma Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! And jobs Let's vote for jobs

CHAPTER 20 / 38 Discussion

Dutch Seed Care, Knighting of Sir Rosis

Mark Koelen from the Netherlands requests a plug for his company, Seed Care, and receives a title upgrade. Stephen Kunkel is knighted as "Sir Rosis of Brookhaven," requesting a ceremony involving dirt cake and a specific IPA.

netherlands· seed care· mark koelen· cirrhosis· knighting

1:46:01 You've got karma. Heehaw. Yeah, that's my pronoun. Mark... yeah I get it it's a good one too My pronouns hee-hah. Mmhmm. Mark Koolen Kooylen. Kooylen. Or koolyn. Koolyn Oh he said he's Dutch so you can pronounce his in he's in widness That's if you go to Holland and the cab or driver will take you right there If you pronounce it like that Try it again

1:46:42 Witness oh yeah, we're on our way there sir. Videness would be closer Videness Want my Dutch guy accent? You're mocking me! My dutch guy accent for this one How do you do the guys name? Koilen Mark Koilen Mark Mark Koilen in Videness Hello Sean and Edem I've checked my PayPal subscription of 11.11 a month and it seems that knighthood bestowed to me in 2010 is up for promotion for some time now! Therefore, I'd like to claim the title of Baronet of Eastlake City and newly arisen Marker Wadden of the Lowlands." Oh so this is a...title change? It's an upgrade, he's not on the list. Yeah geez oh man what is going on with The Back Office?!

1:47:36 Please give my company Seed Care, a seed production company, a plug and some seed growing karma. Greetings from Mark Koehlen, Vuidenes in the Netherlands." So Seed Care he didn't give us a URL but here comes your karma for sure! You've got Karma! So we have Mark Koehlen... Let me just get this right I wonder what's why he wants a plug for Seed Care? Yeah With no URL. No, it's probably code so it's mark colon Go becomes Barrow net what is it John? Can you read that for me? He wants to be the title baronet of East Lake City Okay And then oh and the newly arisen marker Vodden. Oh yeah, okay lowlands newly arisen Marker Fulton I think this new land that is

1:48:34 appeared in the Netherlands? From all the tracking. From the rising sea level, somehow there's more land now I'm not sure what's going on. Does it make sense? No not really Not in the narrative All right Mark thank you very much No karma nothing Stephen Kunkel in Atlanta Georgia Sir Steven if I am not mistaken todays guest is gonna be sir Steven Today donations should thrust me over the knighthood bar I'd like to request the no-no chicken dance jingle. Thanks for, you know that one? I do the da-da-da-da-da-da yeah. Thanks for making The No Agenda Show something I look forward to on both Thursdays of each week! You've given me a fresh perspective on a lot of random topics and more importantly an approach to dissecting the current events that are pushed on us or in some cases completely ignored by mainstream media M5M

1:49:30 For my knight name, I'd like to request cirrhosis. Pronounce cirrhosis. Okay, cirrhosis like cirrhosis of the liver. These guys and their puns. You guy aren't taking it seriously? Yeah they are! They're taking it very seriously. In the name... If the name is taken, its not- And by the way knights can have duplicate names. Yes. Gipper, describing the old nickname. Cirrhosis of Brookhaven is where we're... that's what we're going with. Cirrh-Caper. He talks about some hybrid sheep Anyway for my knighting ceremony I'd like some dirt cake Yeah got it A sixer of Tropicalia IPA from Creature Comforts Brewing and three puffs from a cotton candy flavored jewel pod Well you only get two Of these items

CHAPTER 21 / 38 Discussion

ALS Health Karma, Robot Sustainability Research

The hosts provide health karma for a listener's husband struggling with ALS and discuss a PhD student's research into sustainability for robots. They also share a success story regarding a previous health karma request for a neurosurgery recovery.

als· health karma· robots· sustainability· environmental engineering

1:50:25 Well, I go with the eye chop but Kaylee IPA and the dirt cake. Okay? I got it Give him a random karma guess You've got karma But I will take the three puffs for you don't do that no problem. Yeah Thank you does have a jewel Susie Brown in Barnville the Wisconsin 200 sure the pronunciation could be better but she's actually from Madison so that It's, well it's Barneveldt which is a fine Dutch name actually. Okay this is Sonja Bozenberg from Madison Wisconsin easier to pronounce than the other name thank you for keeping me sane my co-workers watch CNN all night long may I come may I get some health karma from my husband as he struggles with ALS love and light yes of course absolutely You've got Karma

1:51:28 We have James Kuhn in North Chesterfield, Virginia. $200 and he is actually KE4GIV73. It's been far too long since my last donation. Please dedouche me, keep up the great deconstruction of the M5M no jingles just some karma and a de-douche You've been DEDOUCHED! you've got KARMA Now we have earthenon

1:52:08 who is our last donor. He was at the meetup and he left a note, $200. Very interesting character. He is an earth scientist and he's a student at University of California Merced. Been a listener since show doesn't know 215 he thinks I came across the show from hashtag startups on free node IRC. That's what I said. That's interesting, you know that's what i thought please deduce me as this contribution is long overdue You've been de-douched! I can't quite contribute what I think is fair for a broke grad student but if I can return value so can anyone else time to stop freeloading

1:53:04 My background's in environmental engineering and I was, he printed this very small. I first finished my MS in environmental systems at one of our wonderful University of California campuses currently pursuing my PhD in computer science with a focus on sustainability approaches for robots. Wow! I am a robot, I'm sustainable you must die If I was smarter, I'd be working on the FAI AI algo problem. But most importantly they are... it's to work hard to... I can't read this part. Yeah! I am also... I don't know what's worse what he is writing or you struggle actually it's funnier to hear you try and read it. Yeah! Do you want to give up?

1:54:06 Much more to say but this is a this is enough I had to hit people in the mouth when surrounded by bunch of elites especially with your something of something but I will say regarding future climate the papers and reports are Or evidence or bullshit. I can't read this well headers are rot not the headers are not the headings are not Also, the number of I have to get him there were hey you know what John? I would say as a cold read that was well done It's more than

1:54:45 Very funny. Yo, what am I gonna say? It's painful to listen to! I'm trying to help you get out of it. Let's get out let's get out of it. He's got a rewrite it or somethings gotta happen. Now he might have a jingle request lemme see Well while your looking that up imma play the chicken dance Obama that we glossed over This is a rowdy crowd Come on guys, you're in my house. Hold on a second... No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no Hey hey hey okay you know what? Shame on ya! You shouldn't be doing this

1:55:30 All right. He's got no jingles, no karma so that's good let's give him a karma for my bad reading and I'll ask him first because he's an earth sciences guy getting his PhD in computer science it's not not a dummy No it just sounds like whatever he wrote is not readable. He writes like a doctor! Yeah oh well that's the problem right there Got It You've got Karma And that's our list of associate executive producers and executive producers for Show 1163 want to thank each and every one of them. There's a good list today, good pile of them keeping the show going Yes and these executive producer associate executive producer credits are just like Hollywood in fact this was pretty much like a Tarantino movie we have a whole lot of producers but very proud to see this thank you so much especially in the summer

1:56:18 It's fantastic to have this kind of support that really helps a lot. Thank you and we will be thanking more of our donors although that list is considerably shorter for the 50 and above in our second segment I did want to add a quick note for those who are new when you hear about this karma people on jobs, karma health, karma something we didn't make up but gladly provide it when asked so we play the jingle and somehow collective conscious does seem to work. Matt and Ashley Lazari, you'll remember their note in fact I'll read this one from from Matt and Ashley health karma works! You graciously granted my wife Ashley a well-timed at much needed health karma on show 1158 i'm pleased to report back it worked her surgery on August 5 was according to the neurosurgeon procedurally perfect

1:57:09 She's been recovering so well that she was transferred to the physical therapy rehab facility two days earlier than they had originally planned. Most of her symptoms have been greatly reduced or eliminated and the doctor said she can expect to see continued improvements over the next week or so, these results are literally the best that we could have hoped for and was by no means a guaranteed outcome. Ashley and I want to give you, John and the entire No Agenda Nation a giant thank-you! We are incredibly quote privileged to be associated with this amazing group of people. NO AGENDA truly is the best podcast in the universe. Thank you for your courage Matt and Ashley Lazari." Thank...I'm very happy about that

1:57:48 I don't know if karma has anything to do with it, but you know can't hurt as they pointed out in their original note. So that's good news and again for those of you who would like to support the show for the next episode which is on Thursday just go to Dvorak dot org slash N A We know one thing about earth scientists They're hard-to-read Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth You Yowza there we go. So, you know that we got a plug somebody finally oh yes Yes, yes. Yes I did you I have it. I have a clip do you ever clipped? I gotta clip I have two clips Oh, he got two clips and then let's take your clips Yeah Jen Briney of the Congressional dish podcast yeah who

CHAPTER 22 / 38 Discussion

Jen Briney, C-SPAN Value for Value Plug

Jen Briney of the Congressional Dish podcast appears on C-SPAN and credits Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak for perfecting the "Value for Value" funding model. A listener also calls into the program to mention the "Hillary Assassination Group" meme.

jen briney· congressional dish· c-span· value for value· adam curry

1:58:55 who has really been your protégé, I'll say it. You have worked with her? Helped her on a number of things but um...I like her podcast she's a left-leaning Bernie fan but she doesn't like to mention that when she talks about herself. But she was on the C-SPAN show one of the call in shows they had a whole bunch of People that came on that would the whole bunch like three or four that came on that debt That are podcasters that do political shows we could have been invited Sure. But we weren't. Can you imagine those phone calls? Yes, we have Adam Craig John C. DeVore here from the No Agenda Show and let's go to the caller...the first one Epstein's got an egg dick! Now none of that is ever gonna happen. Ever. Yeah, we might have trouble but she came in she gave us a little plug Wait wait Jeffrey Eggstein now I got it took me a moment

2:00:01 She gave us a little plug and then she did, she also followed through with the secondary catch which I would call it. But let's listen to Bryony on advertising. There's a passive corruption in that because you don't want to bite the hand that feeds you. And so, that determines which stories you pick to cover and I just didn't want to do that and so... I essentially crowdfund my podcast. They call it The Value for Value Model which was actually perfected by Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak They host the NOAA Agenda, so I mean it's their model. But I'm copying them and basically what I do is I produce something of value and I think there is a lot of value in knowing what's going on in the lawmaking part of our government And in return I ask people to return whatever value they receive in financial form and my wonderful community does

2:00:57 And you know what well done well explained I liked it It was very concise. What I thought was in you clip that off understandably, uh, I like the guy's response to that Very I thought I thought very interesting the way we're funding it which is something different Let's just listen to how he responded to that financial form and my wonderful community does And it's been working for six years then. Seven years? Financially, it has been working for maybe two years. Let's get to calls. Shannon is up first in Paul. And let's take some calls. Yeah okay. He was like... I don't even know if he was listening. No of course not! Because you definitely missed this. This was and I thought that it was good that Bryony caught it she kind of smiled and thought it was funny and this is one of the Justin one of our apparently one of our listeners who calls in and starts with

2:01:52 Bernie pointed that out like sorry Bernie pointed that out. Like this is why I like Bernie so here from Justin Justin's here in Washington DC Hey there in the morning good morning. Good morning to you Comments on the New York Times about Epstein Eckstein Someone wrote it was hag the Hillary assassination group and like ah, it's great We're finally seeping into culture Well, I love that all 15 people who watch C-SPAN were exposed to our model. That's very nice... Actually, I think there may be more people watching that than you think because a lot of people either maybe they didn't catch it Maybe they just saw it posted somewhere But I got a lot of people sending this to me so I wonder if that show is really well watched perhaps Yeah what am I saying? I have no idea They don't give numbers they don't need to and they don't

CHAPTER 23 / 38 Discussion

ICE Raids, Media Focus on Children

Massive ICE raids in Mississippi resulted in the detention of 680 people, sparking media outrage regarding children left without parents on the first day of school. The hosts argue the media ignores children of legal citizens affected by crime while focusing on those of illegal immigrants.

ice raids· mississippi· illegal immigration· m5m· child welfare

2:02:50 Anyway, but I thought it was cute that she would she played along with the in the morning Yes Which was a plus and that you know if she dropped the ball on that. I would have been very disappointed Of course the other guy didn't know what to hell is going on yeah? Okay onward yes Let me see where we want to pick things up What was interesting and always happens is the complete news cycle shift, I mean it was just it blew over of the Well, there were a couple things going on. We had multiple mass shootings we had the rather massive raid on one company that how did they pick up like 680 people released several hundred almost immediately but they had outstanding warrants for multiple offenders

2:03:44 And I think just before the Epstein news happened, this was...I just wanted to play it because it was such an incredible use of well abuse of children which you know we do track quite a bit. We still have Greta Thunberg out there who's... I'm very concerned about her and she's really being abused I feel We both feel probably. I'm concerned for her life! Well, she's taking that you know cross-ocean sailing trip on a what is it? 50 foot you know competitive sailing yachts not gonna come... Those are not.. It's not fun. That's not a... Do you want to go across the ocean in? No

2:04:30 Unless you're a pro, or some sort of professional. And in fact we've started using this tactic to increase our own support by abusing children from Australia to read sad notes and clearly it's working so I can't say that's a bad thing and I don't care if a father like Chris Wilson, Sir Chris Wilson abuses his kid that's fine The kid seems to be getting a kick. The kid is too old to be abused I think Chris is more likely to be knifed by the kid His Aussies are tough! So there was this ice raid

2:05:09 And I guess this was not the first time they'd raided this company, although the way the M5M played it. It was like oh my God! This is you know...it's like the Nazis coming to get the Jews and it's unbelievable and And the kids, it was their first day in school and they had no parents to come home to which turns out wasn't true. Everyone was asked do you have a child in school someone who's going to be alone? They were sent home immediately they released immediately as per the spokesholes who were talking about this But that's not the way the M5M liked to play it in general. It was really all about the children, not about what these people had been... Many of them hundreds of them had entered the country illegally multiple times and now forget about that it was unbelievable how mean they were because this affects children! It's always about their children

2:06:03 Now, we don't need to talk about the children of legal citizens whose parents OD or parent get arrested or broken families with domestic violence. You don't hear much about the children from M5M when it comes to that but oh! We found one everybody! We found the one child and everyone had a microphone in front her face. They're not doing their best so I want my dad to be free and everybody else and those They had to subtitle it of course. Now you watch this video and you know the comments range from, you know the outrage You'd expect to ah she's acting and it doesn't matter either way It's an abuse of a child. And then to use this child for your political statement is disgusting and I wish we talked about children more

CHAPTER 24 / 38 Discussion

Austin City Council, Public Pooping Debate

Austin City Council member Greg Cesar engages in a heated debate with a citizen over the city's new homeless camping ordinance. The discussion focuses on the increase in human waste on public sidewalks and the council's decision to exempt government buildings like City Hall from the camping rules.

austin· city council· greg cesar· homelessness· public health

2:07:08 to children who are suffering of the citizens of the country. But no, that seems to not be the talking point so that's kind of where we left some things off there was some 2020 stuff. There actually I would like to play this Austin had their monthly City Council meeting Ah, yes. And they're on Thursdays which is sad because I can't really go although if I'd known that the schedule would eventually wind up ending eight hours later than planned i.e.,

2:07:48 piece of audio here from one in the morning when finally item 77 came up which was the homeless or as we say on the show, say the unhoused ordinance camp anywhere. Which is not entirely everywhere you can't camp on city grounds but it has increased Aren't the sidewalks city grounds technically? No, no. That is not...no In fact that is exactly what came up in this I mean there were a couple of things

2:08:27 that happened in this, because only ten people are allowed to speak and they put it on video and it's you know and its archived but nothing is really great. If the audio is not good I'll cut the segment. I think it's good enough for you to listen too. I just want you to kind of hear how the citizens are looking at this and then the City Council and this is one gentleman who showed up and he's...I think he has a a poll with 25,000 or petition with 25,000 signatures on it and he's just there saying hey you know could you please turn that law back so the ordinance back to what it was because now we have people pooping on the street essentially. This city has far more litter today than did a month ago and I think anyone who denies... Now can you hear this at all? Is it worth it to play this?

2:09:17 play for a while and I'll let you know if you have to stop. but anywhere else in public except city parks. They're creating human waste and the photos and the videos that I get sent, they are shared on social media, they are taken in real time...are shocking! Truly shocking! So there's a profound public health concern here as well Third, uh, I don't see how this is good policy for tourism

2:10:01 Our downtown is thriving and we all take pride in that fact. We have people from all over the world that are coming here It is simply not good for tourism to have this be the image of Austin that people are seeing that we are trying to effectively emulate the policies that we've seen in cities like Los Angeles, and San Francisco and Seattle and Honolulu. I'm here tonight carrying voices of the people who have signed our petition. I'm asking you at the August 22nd meeting Okay, so I think you could understand enough of it what the guy is saying is we are now adopting the policies and he's interesting He said San Francisco Los Angeles Seattle and he said Honolulu. Oh

2:10:53 Yeah. I didn't know Honolulu had...I don't know this either, but it wouldn't surprise me could be a Soros sister running the thing. This is what the problem is! Well then and this retort is what I was surprised by one of the City Council members that would be District 1's Greg Cesar he calls the guy back and I'll just set it up for you And he's like, oh you said not in front of City Hall. This is a big point of contention with everybody it's like Oh You can camp and poop anywhere you want but not in front of City Hall and this guy's gonna correct him on the record which only shows you the arrogance that makes it worse what these elites...and they're not even elites! They're elites that fell upwards into these city council Wanna be elites. Oh my god, they are the worst especially this Greg Cesar

2:11:48 and he's not my district but here is a... he calls the guy back. You brought up tonight and then several times I've seen or heard say you can camp anywhere, not at City Hall. And then just now another city parks but also not libraries or recreation centers for the capital or the governor's mansion. So the guy is perturbed.

2:12:43 that the public doesn't know, that not only can you not camp and poop at City Hall but also the Capitol? And the Governor's Mansion?! So just so ya know! That's disinformation by omission pal. What the fuck!? He's making it worse There are more places where you cannot camp that are not accessible to the public per se But oh, it's government. It's us! So just let... you can't camp there? Am I misreading this or is this guy just an elitist prick?" Well, I don't think he's much of an elitist. He's just a prick

2:13:20 We'll take it. And then they got into a little altercation. When you bring up that there's going to be more human waste, I still don't quite understand how it is that ticketing or arresting someone for merely being outside reduces homelessness and therefore reduces human waste from folks who don't have Okay, so I'll set this up and let it play. So what this council member is saying is that he doesn't see the difference it makes in where people poop versus a month ago. So tell me what's going on with the human waste situation, to paraphrase like what is your problem with now that people can poop anywhere except City Hall? What is the problem? Bathroom to go to or how that reduces violence and so I really hope we don't conflate those things when I just don't understand and still haven't seen how it is that recriminalizing

2:14:20 behaviors is going to reduce that violence that you pointed out or reduce the health issue you've pointed out? Sure. Can I respond on that? So, so on the waste issue what I would say is the difference now this happening in public it's happening on sidewalks It's happening in... Where was it happen before inside their homes they don't have? Well its happening wherever they congregate a lot of times it happens under overpasses under bridges these are not... So where was it happened in your gym? Pardon me? So where was it happening in June. What I'm saying is if you walk through downtown now or in other neighborhoods, this is now becoming a problem for citizens who are walking to school walking their dog walking in their neighborhood to an extent that it wasn't before Where were folks going to the bathroom in June? If your asking like where do homeless people congregate in this city

2:15:10 No, I'm not asking you that question. You said that there's more human waste and it's causing a health issue than when you're going to the bathroom in June What i am saying is... Can you believe this? Can you believe this what they are discussing He's saying where did they go to the bathroom a month ago What is wrong with these people This is insane You're talking to the wrong guy. I know, but it's like we have... he said it right up front this is the policy that LA and San Francisco and apparently Honolulu are adopting why are we doing? His answer is well where were they pooping before you know it's like if we need a poop report! What what is going on?! Research needs to be done meanwhile yes we need a steering committee now to track the poop habits

2:16:01 Anyway, what the city of Austin and all the brilliance have done is they voted yes on forming a corporation which will run the new shelters. So... Alright good I'm sure that'll work out fine and i will keep you updated on the Austin poop epidemic Well wish we could just get more people to move there It's too expensive here People don't want to be here now it's not working out Well then Santa Monica. Now let's talk about mental illness for a moment as it links to the mass shooters. The president came out and the way I took his statement was, it's mental health, mental health is a problem, combine that with violent video games and social networks and hate-hate something about hate and we have to stop hate and will have red flag laws... And I didn't like anything that he said

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Andrew Yang, Emotional Gun Reform Forum

Democratic presidential candidate Andrew Yang has an emotional moment during a gun reform forum in Iowa after a mother describes losing her child to a stray bullet. The hosts compare his crying to that of former Speaker John Boehner.

andrew yang· iowa· gun reform· presidential campaign· emotional appeal

2:23:08 And I think there's probably something to that, although this is not effective if you want to start a campaign against guns and in a roundabout way say no mental health has nothing to do with this. We all know it's hatred and easy access to the guns. You want to do it right? You do it the way a presidential candidate does it ladies and gentlemen! You do it like The Yang Man a dozen presidential candidates are in Iowa speaking at 16 of the Democratic presidential candidates here in person at this gun reform forum. And really, they've been laying out their vision for how to solve this issue relating to gun violence in this country. There was also a very emotional moment just a short while ago with Andrew Yang when he was asked — a woman asked a question and noted that her young child was killed by a stray bullet. Take a look at that moment that happened just a short while ago.

2:24:15 I have a six and three year old boy. Imagine, I was imagining it was one of them that got shot in the other side. That scene that you described? I'm sorry. It's like very, very affecting him. You're right that when there's a gun in the household, you're more likely to have a child get shot or the owner gets shot than to kill let's say an intruder into the house man. Yeah, pretty good for first timer Yeah, another dance about bromide. But he was crying John! Oh yeah you would that wasn't Yang though was it? Yes that was Yang crying What?! No hello did you hear my intro yes I heard the intro and i thought he was your playing a guy crying No that's actually Andrew Yang

2:25:16 Listen again. Play the whole clip again. No, I'm not gonna play the intro. I'll play him here we go listen. I have a six and three year old boy that's imagining...I was imagining it was one of them that got shot in the other side That scene that you described i'm sorry It's like very very affecting You're right that when there's a guy. That's Andrew yeah, I saw the video so i know it's him Yeah okay yeah I get it now I was paying I retuned my ears yeah yes for first time catch how could you not catch John Boehner oh yeah well then then surely people will make fun of him

CHAPTER 27 / 38 Discussion

Red Flag Laws, Constitutional Due Process Concerns

Judge Andrew Napolitano criticizes proposed "red flag" laws as unconstitutional violations of due process and the presumption of innocence. The hosts discuss California's implementation of these laws, which allow for the seizure of firearms based on perceived future threats rather than committed crimes.

judge andrew napolitano· red flag laws· fourth amendment· due process· california

2:26:03 And then finally on this whole... Well they won't make fun of Yang, they made fun of Boehner because he's a Republican. No I know that's why i'm saying they'll make fun of him knowing that they won't. Don't cry! Exactly Judge Napolitano no fan of President Trump at least I don't know is he a fan now or was he not a fan? He's still irked but by not getting appointed any judges yet. He thinks he's not a Supreme Court justice I'm sure he's pissed off about that But he, I agree with a lot of what he's saying about this red flag law and all this crap the president was talking about. You know we're gonna find hate on social networks... By the way I want to mention the red flag law thing which I didn't pay as close attention to it like could have when you were

2:26:52 You were too wound up. You actually you actually said perhaps hysterical and I listened to the show later I'm like, yeah if you if you do more at FU Yeah No, you missed it when I said it no you missed it cuz you weren't even listening to my hysteria I was listening so I would so apparently that this is already a law just about to go and be passed in California Oh, yeah It's already set up and he's on board It's abhorrent. And I think there is another one, HR 838, the Threat Assessment Prevention and Safety Act of 2019. There are a number of things set up and good to go.

2:27:39 I would suspect that some of his base is not liking this at all. You think? I don't like Fourth Amendment encroachment at all, so there's snooping you out online and getting the... Hey! This is Castro's Cuba. Yeah colluding with the social networks and who knows what's gonna come out of it, but I don't like it. I don't like the threat and I would like that the president's doing this although apparently he wasn't even at the meeting so I don't know but then you talk about the red flag laws and we're going to find if someone said well listen to Judge Napolitano a almost Supreme Court Justice

2:28:20 Republican Senator Pat Toomey telling me earlier on Fox Business that a lot of his Republican colleagues are indeed now rethinking some of their previous no votes on gun control legislation and the like. But our Judge Andy Napolitano says a lot of those proposed laws won't hold up to constitutional muster he joins us right now judge what do you mean? Well, Neil, good afternoon. It's always a pleasure to be with you The proposal that the president offered the other day is called a red flag law That's a law by which the federal government would pay the states to change their state laws So that anybody who wants to raise a red flag My next-door neighbor is a little crazy but he has a gun I think you should come and take it away from him

2:29:02 can cause the gun owner to be dragged into court. In some states, the gun is taken away before there's a hearing and then the hearing decides whether or not the gun owner might abuse it in the future That's the serious constitutional problem Neil because in this country It's been this way for 230 years now. The presumption of innocence and the due process requirements mean you can only be punished for something you've done in the past, not something you might do in the future. When the old... But he did say though that it was a brilliant column looking at this is that you can't do on the basis about

2:29:39 fear of what a person might do. But if relatives or friends are telegraphing authorities, hey we're worried we don't like what were seeing it concerns us greatly that was the case in the mother of the shooter in El Paso telegraphing local officials you know should he own a gun I mean what's the deal? And this was, this reporting is also a little sketchy. I read this in a couple places but do we have any proof that she indeed informed or questioned her son's ownership of a gun to authorities? Not that i know of

2:30:17 You know, when these tragedies happen there's a natural instinct. I myself have this instinct for the government to want to do something and keep us safe God forbid something like this should happen again And now we see that there were red flags There were warning signs for both Dayton Ohio and El Paso But the supreme law of the land is the Constitution and the Constitution simply does not permit taking a right away because somebody fears it might be abused in the future When the Supreme Court last looked at at the right to keep and bear arms, it called that a fundamental individual liberty. That's in the same category as speech and privacy and religion! That is the highest category of rights! It can't be taken away because the government fears you might abuse it. It can only be taken away if you have committed a crime

2:31:04 No, there you go. So I don't know how this is gonna work but... This is unconstitutional Of course it is! But I'm with Napolitano all the way on this But California apparently the way their law's written Is if you turn somebody in just because you hate them You get a bonus? No but that you're never- There's no checkmark against you they get put on a list And if they try to get off the list and they try to condemn the other person for calling them out, you know as a nutball. Yeah. It can be shown that you're not in that ball in any way and this neighbor just hates you but they're deciding just to make your life miserable because it's a lousy neighbor which is always possible

2:31:44 It's too bad, too bad for you. You're on the list and that's it? And now you're on the list no guns for you? You can't buy one? You have to give them up or what's gonna happen there? Yeah pretty much and the other person got free even though the whole thing could be a scam Now just so I understand states individually can make almost any law they want correct No, because there is one law in the Constitution and in one of the amendments that finally said that all states are subject to the same U.S. Constitution at the very end of the day. Okay so then how was California able to have a so-called assault weapons ban for a decade? Because that was only California wasn't it or was it federal I thought it was just California

2:32:33 I don't know that California has an assault weapons ban. No, no it's gone but they had it for 10 years Well why is it gone? Well it had a sunset and then they looked at it and said didn't help at all And then say okay well then we're not going to renew because it doesn't make any difference We need a lawyer on the show Where's our constitutional lawyer?! We need one right now as soon as possible! But they're subject to the same Bill of Rights and everything else. Anyway, what is the president thinking? This is not going to be a very popular stance his ideas on this... No it's dumb I think he just shooting his mouth off as usual. It was family business! It was a written statement The same one that had the 88 code for the Nazis. Oh there's probably that guy! Right?!

2:33:19 I'm thinking you might be right about this. Well hold on, maybe they drugged the president up because he sure looked like and sounded drugged He does sound drugged a lot And just read this and think alright Nazi 8-8 in Toledo and red flags and gotta do it video games hate It's maybe maybe they've got him on some program You wouldn't know I'm... may i question this actually? That was a not-a good moment for the president so, I wonder. I wonder what they're doing with him that whole speech was tipping point of something in my mind well we'll see where it goes probably it's gonna go like everything else nowhere you mean the red flag laws yeah

CHAPTER 29 / 38 Discussion

Cashless Millennials, Decline of Local Bars

Research from Payments Canada shows a massive shift toward cashless transactions among millennials, who prioritize payment experience over products. A discussion follows regarding the decline of traditional local bars as younger generations prefer "Instagrammable" hipster venues and dating apps.

millennials· cashless society· payments canada· hipster bars· instagram

2:36:29 They must be in great numbers. Well, more than we expected. We conduct research regularly. Payments Canada runs infrastructure for payments in Canada as well as sets the rules across the country and we're modernizing that to make sure that we meet Canadians' needs. We do research and what we have found is that the way we pay is changing And millennials are out in front. In many ways they're leading us on what we can expect in the future There are three trends that we see happening One is a lot less use of cash The millennials as a category

2:37:13 over 50 percent use cash less than four times a month. That's once a week and that is dramatically up from last year when it was 20%. So we're seeing a massive shift away from cash The second is three-quarters of Millennials make a purchase decision online based on the payment experience rather than only the product so they are choosing where to shop based on how easy it is to make the payment Wow. Hello Amazon! Yeah, you know last night we had a couple friends over for dinner and one of our friends has a bar it used to be his dad's bar it's in Houston that's actually well I don't know if he wants me to... It's a well-known bar

2:37:58 And so already business had been impacted by Hurricane Hugo, but he said you know this business is over. Your local bar is over! He says I don't think we can stay afloat maybe another couple of years because of the change in society. Well what do you mean? He says the damn Millennials! What's up?! People no longer congregate in the local bar. They don't come to the local bar, they're all on Instagram and that's where they have their connection." And he said that the second reason you'd come to a bar which is to hook up has been removed by the dating apps

2:38:38 He says that just no one goes out to local bars anymore. It's over! I think, you know at this point we're just gonna get driven out because the landowner will see that he's got kind of a fixed rent situation going on could make more by selling it to put up another condo complex and they'll raise the rate three times like happened in Austin with Threadgills and boom its gone. Now I'm not blaming Millennials but that is the trend This is debatable There's plenty of bars, the ones typically now orchestrated by the millennials themselves. It's a new kind of bar. Okay. It's a bar there's plenty of them around here they're usually hipster bars and they have a kind of solution... They're packed by the way mostly with Millennials

2:39:30 This is what he's running. Somebody's running an old funky bar yeah, that is just out of vogue I mean there's yeah There's there's these old stinky or I would call him Stinky but I think I smoke yes crappy old bars that nobody wants to go to and I think specifically it's the local bar And I think that you'll find that the the Millennials are going for not a local bar But a concept where they can still Instagram cool pictures I don't know if they're really... That's not true either. Could we have a, Albany which is right next to Berkeley is a bar town it's got a lot of bars and there are few local bars that have been shuttered but most of them have adapted and they've changed and they've modernized and they've hipsterized So what's the new format? They do outstanding business. There's one place that really old hot seat Totsy club which has been there forever

2:40:19 It was taken over by hipsters. Now they have a taco truck parked outside where you can go get a taco, go inside and have one of many beers and high-end liquors. The old farts don't go there anymore because they can't afford it but the millennials who seem to spend too much money on things that you could find cheaper uh... frequent the place in another place which is an Albany which is called the Ivy Room, which is really a funky old place that has turned into a blues club and still you know they've modernized I mean these other places yeah if it's just stinky old cigar smoke oh I'm down on my luck hey babe what are you doing tonight? The hooker comes in. Those places are over! Yes exactly

2:41:05 I'll be sure to tell him what he needs to do. So let's see, is the sell that place need to get a whole bunch of expensive beer? We're jamming some picnic tables. What else do we do that really works with the millennials? Yeah, picnic tables is a good one! That's true. It's true! I've seen those places and there are picnic tables everywhere For sure the new hit places are where you can find fellow no agenda-ites at these meetups. We have a Meetup Report coming after this second donation segment. I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah, that'd be fab

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Associate Executive Producers, Value for Value Model

The hosts read a long list of donations from associate executive producers, thanking them for keeping the show operational. They reiterate that the "Value for Value" model, as mentioned in the Mueller report, is the foundation of their independent media effort.

donations· value for value· associate executive producers· mueller report· podcasting

2:41:44 And we have some more people to thank, starting with Sir Bruce Wilkie. $150 and he's looking for a birthday shout out for his father, Bruce Senior and we've got him on the list. We do! Got some other stuff in there... Michael Sizzlo in Rotunda Rotunda West Florida, another $150 donor. He needs to call Paul Gitt a wanker but he means douchebag. For some reason he says he thinks the word wanker gives your show some extra class. Thanks! That's right we've shot up on the class meter

2:42:39 Anonymous Procrastinator, $132. Ken Burkett in South Lake Texas 12345 John Oman in Petaluma California who's at the meetup 12321 and I realize this was an oxymoron. It's a cute one too 12321 Christopher Pythood in Buckeye, Arizona. 1111. Helia Diosarin or something in Margate Florida enjoys the show and needs a jobs card and house card we'll give you that at the end. Chris Richardson, Sir Semicolon in Palmer Arkansas

2:43:26 100. And he has a boss, I think he has a way as a call out and we see if you haven't donated in awhile here's 100 please put on falls Felix Wilson stab his dad is a douchebag and needs all the help he can get. Yeah, I'm not gonna call out Sir Chris Wilson is a douche bag no way yeah of course not well he was talking about Felix will says the kid his dad is a douche oh my god I'm like an addition That's been rejected and vetoed. David Boswell in Georgetown, Texas $100 Michael Levin a hundred dollars from parts unknown By the way, David Boswell says curry for mayor Yes And I'm going to bring in my friend from the build the dome project you're gonna run for mayor No no absolutely yes, nope not gonna happen. No way

2:44:27 I'm so obvious that you as mayor, you're powerless. We have much more power with the microphone You can do both! You hear that Mayor Adler? I'm coming for you! You can do both No not unless you move here and you run my campaign. I could do it yeah Michael Levin Daniel Wall Raven Valraven in Rijthoven, Netherlands. I love your show and i'm in the process of getting my wife loving it too. Justin Wagner, Dewitt Iowa 100 Anonymous 8888 Richard Flux 8888

2:45:16 William Alston, 8888. We got a lot of these! Dennis Garcia, 8888 These are all... These are still congratulations, yeah anniversary donations Sure Brian Tobiasen in Gardner Kansas 8808 Hold on, Dennis Garcia needed to deduce so I'll make sure he gets that You've been de-douched Dennis Garcia has got his name Garcias misleading He's French he was at the meetup Oh nice Very interesting guy we talked about food got into an argument with somebody about French versus... Well, he is now the second Frenchman to donate ever. So yeah, he's a dude named Ben. Doesn't count! Okay?

2:46:03 Sir Brian Tobiason in Gardner, Kansas 8808. He's got no explanation for that number. Well he says my wife and I were married on 0800808! And I was too busy planning our night that i forgot about yours thank you for your courage and keep up the good work gentlemen well thank you very much sir brian oh well that's good Alexander Soulsburger In Deutschland now, he's the only boob donation but does not have a boo-boo to To talk about so he's probably just looking at boobs could be I do have this note here. I wanted to read it was a meetup guy And he said I had to do this. This wasn't because nice note it was John and Adam please needs that was a deducing from I've already put that there were two deducing That was Dennis well Dennis was it? No, yeah Dennis had a deduction

2:46:59 Yeah, it was Dennis. He's the data janitor of Noe Valley. He also has a request for some job karma and we'll put that at the end I just want to make sure that's clear he says he knew... he says he ran into his Adam you know a voice actor? Voice over actor named it's either Jerry or Jemmy. I met him in Ibiza! He says he knows you interesting guy he's He's the first flat earther I met. Well, maybe we met at the meeting but...I don't know him as a voiceover artist. All right. Matthew Mungin 69 Sir Don Barron of New Hampshire 6666

2:47:49 You can't read M5M anymore. No, who can? Thomas Miller in Naperville, Illinois 6611 Sir Craig Porter the Ronin 6006 I love small boobs he says ITM Sonia Castillo 60 Nancy Murphy 5721 Sir Adam of the Coke Empire Huh Okay, interesting. John Tennis, Knight of the Black Telecaster 5533. Raleigh Hawk in Anna, Illinois 5510. Rory Semelroth 5333 and he was a attendee in Murfreesboro. William Wellborn in Kennesaw Georgia 5033 and the following people are $50 donors name and location. Ready? Matt Bolke I think it's Bolke yeah

2:48:50 Our buddy Drew Mochak over here in El Cerrito. Dennis Covell, Douglas Engstrom, Robert Dekaney in Fairfax Virginia Roy Tenhava in Pine Knocker, Holland. Well done! Jonathan Ferris and Liberal Kansas Kimberly Redmond in Toronto Ontario Oh yeah okay good that's not who I thought it was Sir, F that guy in St. Louis Missouri? Andrew Klaus, parts unknown Steven Kirkpatrick in Langley Washington Hold on a second All right Anonymous of Antioch California In Antioch California You do have another one which is

2:49:48 It's stuck in between here, which is a I think there's also anonymous and it's $50 from Lodi Wisconsin. So so want to thank all these folks for helping us with show 1163 Yes And as you heard from work people yes As you heard from Jen Briney host and producer of the Congressional Dish podcast on C-SPAN according to the Mueller report we have perfected the value for value model In fact We instigated it And this is the result. We can live another week! Thank you very much, it's your show You're the producers you supply us with pretty much everything we do package it up I think we do a decent job That's the value we create and provide and love when people give us value in return and that of course also goes for executive producers, associate executive producers

CHAPTER 31 / 38 Discussion

Birthday Shoutouts, Global Meetup Schedule

The hosts deliver birthday wishes to listeners and announce upcoming No Agenda meetups in Warsaw, London, San Antonio, and Victoria, BC. They highlight the growing community and the success of the independent meetup tracking system.

birthdays· meetups· warsaw· london· san antonio

2:50:37 people on the subscription list which is all under $50 we don't mention them for time reasons today was longer than usual because of our opening segment and as well people like to remain anonymous but we really appreciate it and will do it all over again on Thursday please remember us at Dvorak.org slash N A as requested jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs you thought karma Ah yes, today is the 11th of August 2019. On the list today Dame Drea and Lord M of The Mid Valley say happy birthday to their oldest daughter Estelle Ivy She turns 16 tomorrow Stephanie Myers says happy birthday to her amazing husband Sir GQ33 Tomorrow as well Sir Bruce Wilkie says happy uh... birthday to his father Bruce Senior and Aaron Chamberlain says

2:51:42 birthday to Laura Chamberlain well in advance but well intended on the 30th. Happy Birthday from everybody here at The Best Podcast In The Universe! Finally we have some real title changes on the list. Sir Patrick of The Enormous Noggins has now become the Viscount of Ohio and Mark Koelen is now, for now shall be known as the Baronet of East Lake City and the newly risen Marker Warden of The Netherlands both of you thank you very much for your additional contribution of a thousand dollars to the best podcast in the universe

2:52:34 We have two knightings and I will seat Stephanie Meyer at the table. She can give us her chosen name later, but I've reversed my initial decision and feel that she should be inducted into the No Agenda Roundtable on today's episode so...I've got my blade here at the ready sir. There you go. Yes! Oh beautiful thank you So up on the podium we need Stephanie Meyer, Brian Holcomb and Stephen Conkle. The three of you have joined the elite ranks of the No Agenda Knights in James and that is due to your contribution of a thousand dollars or more And I am proud to pronounce the KB Sir Rosis of Brookhaven Georgia Sir Rillian Knight of the Santa Clara Valley and Dame Stephanie

2:53:22 Dame a name to be filled in at a later time. For you we have Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay We've got Dirt Cakes and a sixer of Tropicalia IPA! We got Pepperoni Rolls and Pale Ales! We got the Breast Milk and Pablam Sparkling Cider N' Escort, Ginger Ale & Gerbils and Mutton & Mead And your night ring your sealing wax it is after all a signet ring and your official certificate Can be obtained by going to know a generation comm slash rings giving Eric the show all of your information or at least the ones pertaining to your Ring size and he will get that out to you as soon as possible So, the meetups are becoming quite the thing it seems that the meetups may be the only thing keeping these new millennial bars going

2:54:11 So we need to continue with that. Also, I've been requested to look for some WordPress administrative assistants as Daniel who's our dude named Daniel who set up noagendameetups.com could use some help because it got a lot of cool features they really want to make this a kick-ass system It's already much better than meetup.com at least for our purposes so you can email admin noagendameetups.com Then we have a quick report of the Murfreesboro meetup, Murphy Murfreesboro This is from Rich had a great time this past Friday It was such a variety varied group of people from different backgrounds military pharma dudes named Ben an owner of her professional Christmas lighting company a guy from Kentucky with an encyclopedic knowledge of the different bourbons

2:55:04 Sounds like Koval to me We're already setting up the next meetup just so we can get together again and learn more about each other Thank you for your courage rich So this is the kind of report that we hear from these meetups And when a couple that are coming up for the next week August 14th, so Wednesday Warsaw Poland at the Mickler bar in Warsaw And the meeting note to all the slaves in Warsaw. It's time for a meetup The event will be on the second floor of the Mikkeller bar in Warsaw details at noagendameetups.com On the 15th, we have Michigan Local 1 midweek Meet up at Dearborn 5-9 p.m You will be meeting at the Henry Ford Museum for Star Trek happy hour Oh yeah baby Why am I not in Michigan?

2:55:51 There's also some food and that will be as see Frida Mexican cuisine. And you can find the details on the NOAJENDA meetup site, then we have a meetup report from Southeast London The priest they do regular meetups previous interesting. Oh, that's oh They love it out there the previous Meetup approximately an hour and a half into the meetup Alexei Alexie turned up Approximately 20 minutes later Rob anonymous appears in true dimension be style replete with fluorescent yellow jacket and a battery-powered scooter My god did he come to the right meetup?

2:56:30 Semi-regular 80 year old China man Matthew interrupts the event. GWFF declares Matthew to be a globalist, extensive triggering test of both attendees commences, both pass with flying colors! Good time had by all and such... This is it. I'm not quite sure, but it sounds like it was good. Southeast London meetup 11 the amazing amygdala shrinking beer something roll up roll-up that will be held on the 15th of August the third Thursday of every month why because every no agenda or deserves the opportunity not to be triggered It's at The Real Ale Way and that's in Bromley in London. I think its Kent

2:57:14 So look at the site for that. San Antonio in Texas this Saturday 3 to 7 p.m. San Antonio meet up a Big Hops on Bitters, bring your own food they do not have a kitchen and there will be a table with Adam and John's heads on sticks so you can't miss us! And finally Sunday the 18th we have the Victoria BC Meetup, the prettiest little town on the west coast Noah Jenna meetups, it's like a party come out and meet the NA listeners in town share beverage or two at the tasting room and that's on Government Street in Victoria BC Candinavia. So those are your meetups for the next week apparently there are a lot of fun to go to and you know we are going to attend as many as possible John just did the

CHAPTER 32 / 38 Discussion

Laravel Migration, JIT Repository Development

Developer Paul Couture provides an update on the No Agenda art generator, explaining a migration from Drupal to Laravel. The technical discussion covers the release of Laravel 6 and the use of "JIT" repositories for public code management.

laravel· drupal· jit repository· web development· paul couture

2:58:01 the impromptu one in Berkeley and The Keeper, and I will be attending some of these soon as well. Noagendameetups.com Wow! It's been a long show. I think we should do couple more stories? Well let me read you something first which is important This from Paul Couture and our thing about the Drupal needed And now I gotta do this For noagendaartgenerator.com Yeah this is... You saw that message he wanted somebody to help He was gonna give up on the whole thing Well apparently he changed his mind Ah! Okay Very different, but I should read this note. Missed my life-long moment he says first off I absolutely want to keep running the art generator I'm sorry if we got the impression We got the impression from your note and talking to you yeah that I found it to be a burden That again was provided by you. I have been quite swamped as me and a few partners have been diligently working to build What is it?

2:58:54 I, let's say iwtv.live and has led me to spending quite a bit of time on the highways and back roads in this beautiful country oh gee yet another cracker barrel and Walmart shopping center such diversity to provide live streams at rate 4x higher than the Goliath of our industry okay well then you were busy second Second and more importantly i think the droop site was moved to a lara bell in mid twenty four. In mid twenty fourteen for all the reasons you mentioned about grouples increasing insanity so that's why he's always on top guy,

2:59:33 I also moved the code base at that time to publicly forkable JIT repository. JIT, sorry. JIFT. Wow! Mr. Developer Dvorak. How's your JIFT repository? It's a soft JIFT. JIFT. JIFT. No, you should be consistent. I am consistent i got a brand new build coming soon i've been waiting on lara bell six to drop drop and i plan to use some of the crazy medium. Nebulation skills i picked up in last three or four years as i had to become a bit of a crazed command line video audio image editor to power some of the apps that make our network work

3:00:20 I was close to releasing the news build or the new build when Tyler Otwell announced version 6 of Laravel would be coming in the next weeks. I feel it'd be far better to let that roll out first, to make sure i have the necessary changes done and development he's one of those... He's one of these you know it's like Void Zero somethings new! With crazy hours on it. Something is new install it I think that's every dude named Ben who loves his job does this. So anyway, so he

3:01:03 This is an aside that crazy former headless Drupal dev that now works on making a Netflix look-alike full of guys and gals play fighting in their underwear. I don't know what that means, but anyway so he's describing himself as this new type. He's the former Headless Drupal Dev. So we don't need any more help? We won't need anybody for the moment, but I do have your names. I'm putting it on a list everybody. Yeah you're on... 6-789 guys. You know what hey you sent this you're now on a list okay? You're on the Drupal list. It could come in handy. Sounds like it's not gonna come in handy if Paul has gone over to Laravel

3:01:43 That he's not the only guy I mean, this is like I think Drupal is being dumped. Well, I don't know I haven't checked it sounds like its a me! I'm gonna look at the latest JIT repository see if... I'm not a Drupal guy so I don't know Never liked it to begin with. I know I'm still a JIT repository. I'm all jitty over it. I can't get over It's too good Yeah you should be jitty Okay, we cannot let this show go by without showing you the gaffe machine that is Joe Biden. There's always a couple good ones. This week was no disappointment. The first one I would say is this... We choose science over fiction! We choose truth over facts!

CHAPTER 33 / 38 Discussion

Joe Biden, Truth Over Facts Gaffe

Joe Biden makes several high-profile gaffes, including stating "we choose truth over facts" and suggesting "poor kids are just as bright as white kids." The hosts analyze these as teleprompter misreads that reveal the candidate's underlying thoughts.

joe biden· gaffes· teleprompter· racism· 2020 election

3:02:30 If you're interested, join me. I could use the help! I just love that the crowd loves it we choose truth over facts We choose truth over facts, but then this one which is really sad because it was a prompter misread I saw it happen Joe's reading he misreads the prompter He supposed to say rich kids can do just as well as wealthy kids But what's on his mind? Is cuz he's racist on his mind. Is that rich black that word is well white and

3:03:05 Or he reads wealthy as white, whatever it was. It came out as white. He tries to save it and then adds wealthy you know because that's what that was the word in the prompter wealthy black red yellow whatever here listen And the other thing we should do is we should challenge these students We should challenge students in these schools have advanced placement programs in these schools We have this notion that somehow if you're poor You cannot do it Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented white kids. Wealthy kids, black kids Asian kids I don't really mean it but think how we think about it Same audience who thought that truth over facts was great they're applauding the racism Fact over truce Yes No it was truth over fact Yeah That was bad But it was a prompter misread and he tried to save it but its because its on his mind He saved it okay

3:04:01 I thought he saved it okay. There was too much of a pause and you just don't want to start with rich kids and then go to white, i mean you can see the gap... Yeah but no, I thought he saved it well for him Okay well make sure you vote for Joe It was too much of a pause and it was obvious what was going on but it did save it so if you quoted him You'd have to put the whole sentence in there which includes all the other stuff. Yeah, but of course... If you heard it yeah it's a gaffe So what happened- But this is not how the modern M5M political process goes The modern process is hey soundbite! Oh no everybody mocked me By the way I did want to mention this statistic since I was reading Broadcast and Cable magazine Um... Oh I do this all the time Why?

CHAPTER 34 / 38 Discussion

2020 Election, Local Political Ad Spending

Local political ad spending for the 2020 election is projected to reach $6.5 billion, with Los Angeles identified as the top market. The spending breakdown includes $3.08 billion for over-the-air television and $1.37 billion for digital outlets.

political advertising· 2020 election· broadcast and cable· los angeles· digital ads

3:04:52 Well, because I get information man. The 2020 election... Scum Delight? Yes! Okay here's a little game the 2020 election will generate and i'm not going to say the number in local political ad spending and they did this by estimating percentage increases over the last election so it's fairly good at broadcasting cable, they have to predict things reasonably well because their industry trade magazine. So how much do you think is being projected to be generated in local political ad spending for the 2020 election? Now of course take into account we have 25 Democratic hopefuls so there's a lot of political ad spending and this includes television, internet or online I think as it's represented and radio etc. What do you think the total amount will be of local ad spend

3:05:55 It's 3.5 billion 6.5 billion dollars and it breaks down as follows the three point yeah wow is right over-the-air television will get 40% of local political spending or 3.08 billion The next biggest share will go to online and digital outlets with 1.37 billion, representing a 21% share. Multi-channel video programming distributors will see 919 million 14 percent radio will get 312 million or 4.8 percent with the remainder going to other media Oh yes podcasting expects to receive $7500 I'm just kidding it's not in there

3:06:41 Delayed. Here is what was interesting, because these are local elections and because I presume there's such a large base of Democrats running in the primary the number one market for political advertising at 2020 is expected to be Los Angeles with $368 million dollars in spending LA TV stations expected to rake in 168 million during the election, digital getting 76 million cable 55 and radio a meager 70% of that total. So they are definitely getting some big money in this 2020 election in California

3:07:25 Hmm, but that amount it was never enough. That's six and a half billion dollars Do you think that that's uh? That's that's some people have seriously want to choose their leaders don't they I mean That's not just coming from mom and pops with their hundred dollars to Lizzie Warren And that's some real money my money is coming from every which way what does that man is encouraged What do you mean every which way? It's coming from big boys, little boys. Mom's dads mom's pops large corporations everyone pharma banks real estate unbelievable

CHAPTER 35 / 38 Discussion

China Trade, Biden 2016 Election Prediction

Chinese officials and state media reportedly believe Joe Biden will win the 2020 election, viewing him as "softer" on trade enforcement than Donald Trump. The hosts recall that Chinese assessments accurately predicted Trump's 2016 victory in key rust belt states.

china· joe biden· donald trump· trade war· 2016 election

3:08:11 How can anyone have one single message with all those... Actually, it's got to be say yes to everybody and then hope you get in. And then I guess whoever gives you more money. Then apologize! Yeah, let's apologize a lot. I want more money. The system is sick man. If they gave us more money it would be better. Well, I do have some ISOs that I... Well, I was just gonna wrap up with one last thing about Biden This came from Fox Business News. Well, there's a good chance now of no deal. The president has been making the case that the Chinese see the Democrats as softer much softer than he is on China trade especially on enforcement and so I checked with the Chinese myself David both their press and talking to Chinese individuals who advise the government they do believe that Biden will win they've got polls in their own assessment

3:09:29 Interestingly enough to me, back in 2016 they said Trump will win. He will carry Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan and I said no that's not true! I'm sure Hillary is going to win this is at some point in 2016 They were right but this time they seem to believe that Biden's gonna win And that would explain the president's comments are probably accurate Now could it also be Huh, well there you go. The Chinese maybe that's where part of that six and a half billion comes from yeah That could be wouldn't be surprising I mean that there's always been to be all in has always been the rumors that Obama got hundreds of millions through From China through credit cards Yeah, well also from Saudi Arabia through credit cards. Yeah, but it's kind of like these sealed indictments. I guess

CHAPTER 36 / 38 Discussion

North Korea Update, Missile Test Apology

North Korea conducted its fifth missile launch in three weeks in response to joint U.S.-South Korean military exercises. President Trump tweeted that Kim Jong-un sent a letter offering a "small apology" for the tests and promised to stop once the exercises concluded.

north korea· kim jong-un· donald trump· missile tests· south korea

3:10:23 Exactly like that. I do have three ISOs, I want you to consider Okay None of them really except one of them is on the show The other ones are just kind of things that are in the public domain they're floating around and have to kill all men We need to kill all men Where does that come from? Oh, that's from Jenny McDermott. She's a troller? Yeah I'll say it! And she did a whole spiel on Kill the All Men? It was quite good. You have a lot of time. I was gonna break it down today show but we didn't have time No, I'm glad we didn't. That's... troller Alright Now this one is harder to come by This is a woman, New York socialite stoner named... last name of Mueller

3:11:12 And she has this I feel evil ISO which i thought was really good but I don't know if it's a good enough quality. I know, I feel evil but I can't help that No no you're right It doesn't work as an ender show ISO That's a shame, it was one of those concealed microphone things they are not good and then we have the in the morning from Jen Briney In The Morning To You I personally like... We need to kill all men. I think that's an end of show ISO, I mean that's- Okay, I think so too. I think you're as a cleanest! And it's also the most accurate let's be honest Anything else? I do have one clip of North Korea update, 37 seconds to help us keep up with that. The South Korean military said today that North Korea fired what they believe to be two short-range ballistic missiles into the sea Today's launches were the fifth in less than three weeks The US and South Korea are currently conducting joint military exercises which North Korea calls war games

3:12:10 In tweets this morning, President Trump said that in a recent letter from North Korea leader Kim Jong-un offered quote a small apology for testing the short range missiles. The president said North Korea promised to stop the launches when the joint military exercises and the US and South Korea have scaled down combined drills since the first summit between President Trump and Kim Jong Un in 2018. Yeah I thought they were going to do those mock, you know practice things with South Korea. The military moaned and groaned in the industrial complex. We need to sell more missiles! We gotta blow some up or otherwise we won't sell more. Oh well this... Why does Trump let that happen? I'm telling man they got they got him on some drugs they got him on something I don't know they twirl something in front of his eyes

CHAPTER 37 / 38 Discussion

Jerry Nadler, Formal Impeachment Proceedings

House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler announces "formal impeachment proceedings," a move the hosts describe as a meaningless attempt to fool the public. Meanwhile, internal Democratic tensions rise as Nancy Pelosi reportedly "reads the riot act" to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

jerry nadler· impeachment· house judiciary committee· nancy pelosi· aoc

3:13:04 I just don't understand that. Or maybe he's choosing his battles, but I'm not sure But...I can understand where if you said okay we won't do that anymore and then he does it Yeah then Kim Jong-un is gonna light his little model rockets and it looks shit for everybody Not as shit though is Jerry Nadler. This is just a short update, you know he's leading the impeachment charge completely blown off the news cycle for now so we've come up with a new way of explaining what he does which is exactly the same thing only now he's kind of adding a very transparent twist to it this is formal impeachment proceedings

3:13:40 We are investigating all the evidence, we're gathering the evidence and we will at the conclusion of this hopefully by the end of the year vote to vote articles impeachment into the House floor or we won't. That's a decision that will have to make but that's exactly the process were in right now So the headline was formal impeachment proceedings which is completely meaningless I don't know why he thinks anyone is being fooled by this I don't know what it expects to accomplish. It's just going to anger people well and maybe even anger Nancy Pelosi by the way, just as a last one that you see AOC is now ripping her ex-chief of staff for divisive tweets about fellow Democrats this in the New York Daily News so now she's distancing herself from Pelosi really read The Riot Act yeah Pelosi read The Riot Act to her and she i guess

3:14:39 Yeah, did I fall apart? Yeah the last 15 minutes you've been falling apart. It's uh...I don't know what's going on. No this is terrible! I gotta make it- I'm putting a call in and i believe its my connection Well you know what we'll do first of all that's not often that you will admit it to your connection so this is serious business people We have to end the show here That because I KNOW when it's my connection That's right That'll do it for today, but we will return on Thursday. I'm sure there's a lot to be deconstructed broken down discussed and queried I'll make sure I get Bachanek You know either provide an update or maybe a clip or two Or we'll see what we do with that We're supposed to ask him something something weren't you supposed to ask him something specific? And they're like I'm sure remember when I go through today show

CHAPTER 38 / 38 Discussion

Show Sign-off, Felix Wilson Donation Plea

The show concludes with a sign-off from Austin and Silicon Valley. A final segment features young Felix Wilson and his father Chris Wilson making a humorous plea for donations, followed by a montage of Joe Biden gaffes and the "kill all men" ISO.

sign-off· felix wilson· chris wilson· joe biden· gaffes

3:15:33 Coming to you from the frontier of Austin, Texas. It's the capital of the drone star state FEMA region number six and all the governmental maps Remember us for our show on Thursday at Dvorak org slash na until then in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where we were ahead of this effort. I'm John C. DeVorek We return on Thursday Together and in sync, right here on NOAgenda. Until then adios mofos! And such! My name is Chris Wilson I'm the father of young Felix Wilson For the last four episodes Felix has been exploited and made to beg for donations to our show

3:16:27 Whilst some of you have donated to our podcast and we all thank you for this Some of you haven't donated and this message goes out to you. To paraphrase Linda Sissor from our last episode Your shit give us money go to Dvorak org slash NA and donate now Check your wallet, not your privilege But think how we think about it And ladies and gentlemen I'm gonna...I'm gonna give you the whole load today If you agree with me Go to Joe 30330 and help me in this fight. We have this notion that somehow if you're poor, you cannot do it. Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented white kids

3:17:13 Wealthy kids, black kids Asian kids. I really mean it but think how we think about it But think how we think about it You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or Dunkin Donuts Are you joking? Is this is joke? 30330 Three letter word Jobs, J-O-B-S. Jobs, jobs, jobs! There's no doubt about them staying oiled and lubricated here If I'm elected president you're gonna see the single most important thing that changes America is we're going to cure cancer And uh...I just want you know I had permission to hug Lonnie

3:17:57 Jobs, jobs, jobs. 30330. But think how we think about it! Jobs, jobs, jobs. 30330 Are you joking? Is this a joke? It's pronounced Jeff according to the guy who invented this word. It's pronounced Giddy according to the guy who invented the word Al Sharpton Democrats are outright giddy They got all giddy with it Giddy They're getting giddy Getting all giddy Giddy They got all giddy with it Giddy

3:18:40 They're all jitty about a shutdown. The best podcast in the universe! MoFoDvorak.org slash N-A We need to kill all men