1:57:51 So I got a, uh, um, I've been listening to Pachinic. Yeah, the man I bring to the table now you've taken over. You're just doing clips from him. No, I've not taken over anything, but I did get a kick out of this particular thing. I saw this. I didn't even know about this guy until I saw the Pchenik piece. Yeah, this is a guy who's very highly praised and he's behind a lot of the neocon stuff and Pchenik hates him. And so I noticed that when Pchenik hates somebody who's had a run in with him and after the guy dies or whatever it is, Pchenik just goes after him. And I'm reminded There was a scene in the last season of Berlin Station which was taken off the air. Yeah, it was probably too good. And the guy was one of the, he's an ex-spook. This one, I did have a clip of this and we played it on the show. He says, what's this ex-spook gonna do? Oh, he podcasts. He's gonna be a podcaster. Right. Although I think that was from Madame Secretary, it was a different guy. But it was the same guy. Same idea.
1:58:52 was a spook who decides to start doing a podcast and he's yakking about stuff he shouldn't be yakking about and eventually they're worried sick that he's gonna... So you're equating Pachenik to that? To a former spook who's doing a podcast? No, I'm reminded of it. Oh, okay. I'm not equating Pachenik to being an ex-spook that's doing a podcast. No, he's a current spook on YouTube. Although he reminds me of the ex-spooks doing his podcast. I don't think he is an ex-anything. Who knows? He's a handler and we enjoy him very much for this very reason. I think he's fascinating because he really shoots from the hip. He brings a lot of nastiness. He's nasty. He's got a lot of nastiness in him. I do know he's spoken about, although it didn't ring a bell then, but when I, during one of our phone calls, he mentioned this guy.
1:59:38 And I think this guy, well, let's see if you have that in the clip and I'll tell you the story. Well, I got all, I have the whole thing. It's like Pachanik, well maybe there's something to cut out, but this is Pachanik talking about the death of a very famous diplomat character, Andy Marshall. And I think what ticked Pachenik off was the fawning obit that the Wall Street Journal gave this guy and so Pachenik in his normal way has to set the record straight. A man whom I know and you know nothing about his name is Andrew Marshall he was the director of the office of net assessment It all sounds very fancy, but the reason I'm bringing up because he is the father of the neocons and the implementer and strategist for 9-11, the false flag, and the man who sent our intelligence to CIA and our military into harm's way in Iraq. Let me talk about Andy Marshall.
2:00:30 Andy Marshall was 97 when he died a few weeks ago and the Wall Street Journal wrote about how great an American he was. He wrote papers on strategic warfare and he was one of our great thinkers. Nothing could be further from the truth. So I cut it there because this is the part where he said, you think we should play any more of this, Adam? Yeah, I think we should. This is very enjoyable. It's, you're right, even if it wasn't about spooks, It's just interesting that a guy has no qualms whatsoever at cutting down a guy who just died. Yeah, right. Big ill of the dead. Heartless, heartless. And you know, that's that's what we need our spook division to be. Heartless. Yes. I like spooks that do this. Just it's factual, man. Nothing else. I knew Andy Marshall exceedingly well. When I was attended Harvard, MIT, I left and got in, I became the DAS for several administrations, as you all know.
2:01:23 Henry Kissinger and Andy Marshall were very close. Nixon had appointed Andy Marshall a man who never served in World War II. Let me repeat it again. He never served in World War II and refused to serve because he had a heart murmur. He could have served in the Korean War. He could have served in the Vietnam War. He could have served in any war he wanted to. but he claimed he had a heart murmur and he was not allowed to come into the draft. I thought that was nonsense. And I told Andy this, but Andy had a propensity for creating papers that always declared that we Americans have to go to war and be number one. That's how we got to the neocons. In 1992, Andy had appointed Zalmay Holiside, Wolfowitz, Richard Perle,
2:02:07 Cheney, Bush and Rumsfeld as the key leaders in the neoconservative movement, meaning that we, America, had to be number one and Israel would be our co-partner. and we would be involved in wars around the world to make sure that we stabilized and unified the world. Well, you saw what happened in Iraq. You saw what happened in Vietnam. You saw what happened in Somalia, Sudan. This was all the product of Andy Marshall. I didn't like Andy Marshall, and he knew that. You don't say! Gee, Captain Obvious. Yeah, he's the genesis of the neocons who have brought so much despair and death and darkness. Even if this was his, they couldn't do it. These guys were incompetent boobs.
2:03:03 So let's play him out. The reason I didn't like him, I found him to be slimy. I found him to be stupid. I said to him, I don't think that your papers at the Rain Corporation were anything significant. I think you were a mace-yelling individual who basically fellated everybody above him so he could get into power. How powerful he was? Exceedingly powerful because you never heard of that office and that assessment. Let me tell you what happened. When I met him, I said to Andy, not only do I not respect you, but I'm warning you that I have monitored you since the day you left Nixon. And I have learned very well from sources and the monitoring we had on you, Andy, up to the point of 9-11 and then beyond, that you were deeply involved with the Mossad. In fact, he was so deeply involved with the Mossad, I had to deal with certain Mossad operatives and sent them to prison and others. I made sure that they never functioned again.
2:04:01 And I warned Andy Marshall a year before 9-11 as I walked through DoD, I saw the CIA take over key positions. I saw Dove Fyfe being put into position, a man who had no credibility in our system, Wolfowitz, Zalmay Khalilzad, a slimy Afghan who's still a right now doing our negotiations in Afghanistan, but he was the one who created the war in Afghanistan. We have John Bolton, a slimy little man who's in the White House. We have Elliott Abrams, who I almost killed literally because he had gone against my own people in Panama and elsewhere. And then we had several others who came back.
2:04:40 What I said to Andy was the following, you in any way harm our country or you deal with our military, you will pay heavily for that problem. In fact, what did happen is military intelligence monitored me. I monitored them. So let me quote Andrew Johnson, who said the following, this unity within America is treason. But let me quote John Wilkes Booth, sexempestoranus, thus always with tyrants. A coward and a tyrant was Andy Marshall. Good night and good luck. Elliot Abrams is the guy who's currently doing the Venezuela coup. Isn't that the guy, Elliot Abrams? Yeah, same guy. Yes, he said he nearly killed him and the reason why is Elliot Abrams had exposed several spies that Pachanik was running. I'm paraphrasing a long conversation. And these spies were nuns and he had them killed. This Andy Marshall had the nuns killed.
2:05:50 Really? Yeah. You see, the thing is, and I'm just looking at the troll room and you know, there's a lot, you know, about half the people like, this botchanic's bullshit, he's, but you can't... You should take a look at his bio on the Wikipedia. You can't really deny, yeah, you can't really deny his official credentials. And I'm just, I think he's a gift. He's a gift to the podcasting world. He is. He is. I find it very disappointing. At least he must, well, he probably doesn't care. He's just getting his stuff out. Yeah. But he only has about 20,000 views on any one of his little bits that he does. He does one a week or one every couple of days. Every once in a while, he just, and his wife comes up and says that it's a very funny thing to watch.
2:06:34 It's not it's not as I have over 4 million views of my Barney robot singing and I love you you love me yeah, no That's it's it's 4 million views of Barney owned by some guy. That's the best the video It's not your your Barney video It's my Barney video. It's a video of the Barney. I own nobody compete with Barney man That's that's unfair four million views and he gets 20,000 for telling us really cool stuff listen I mean I by the way you can tell the chat room to troll room I don't blame them for feeling this way because I it's just very like wow I
2:07:17 It's hard to, you know, it's very like, wow, what did you just, I'm just saying, I mean, Pachinko stuff is so it's so inside baseball behind the curtain stuff that it's like, it's unrehearsed, it's unscripted and it flows right out of him. And if you sit there and you, because we did a special with him, we did an hour-long special show. If you listen to him and you're just googling, binging, wikipedia-ing everything he says, all the names, all the dates, the occurrences, it's as if Wikipedia is running in his head. So I think he's the real deal.