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00:00 And... And... And... And... Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, March 14th, 2019. This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1120. This is no agenda. Suffering from hipster overload and broadcasting live from the capital drone star state here in downtown Austin Tejas in the Cluedio in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I'm hoping to get into Yale or USC on that cricket team I'm John C DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Yes, that does seem to... I think you're having a good time with this new story

00:42 It's something special about this one that really is tickling yo fancy. Yeah, yeah. Why is that? Because it involves Stanford and USC and UCLA. That's what I thought. The most elitist douchebag universities in the country for sure. Three of the many. I mean Yale's on there too which is really pathetic. Yeah. Yeah, so I guess, I don't know if everyone has heard about this around Gitmo Nation, certainly in the US we probably have. I wonder about that. It's too bad you're not still in Europe to see if it was like going over there because it's really a pathetic story. Well the concept of the admissions process and the history behind it I don't think is well known. You know because you're in Europe one of these countries it's like oh you apply and you get it.

01:32 You know and it's a lot of it's free or of course It's not free because now it costs more the books are crazy There is some tuition you have to pay and kids are complaining around the world about it think of the UK also the Netherlands Yeah, the UK they were they protested and been rallies. Yeah, but it's it's kind of special here in America, and I would say that now I I I went to West Virginia for three months of college, so I don't have a lot of standing in this area, but I've always grown up thinking that, you know, it's like if your dad went to some hoity-toity or your mom, your parents went to some hoity-toity school and they'd have connections and, you know, depending on where you are in society, you know, you can probably, you know, weasel around and get your kid into some school at high, you know, I've heard about this for years in New York.

02:21 Certainly, you know amongst the the financial crowd always Donating money to certain schools to ensure their kid gets in but this was a whole new level. Well, then even that is not Necessarily the way it's done everywhere. Okay, okay Okay, okay Yes But this is this is this is so dumb because And I think a lot of it has to do with the education of the people who are doing it, at least with the actors and actresses from Hollywood, the Hollywood elites. Well, that's only really two that they nailed in. Yeah, it's only two, but they're the most fun. No, I don't know. I like the publicly traded companies, CEOs. I like that.

03:20 Oh, that hasn't happened in a long time. Who owned the CBS affiliate Channel 8 down in San Diego. Oh really? Yeah. And they of course are highlighted because they're Republican. Well what I noticed right off the bat is that only these two actresses were named and of course there's show business value to that but you probably wouldn't want to be exposing big donors to campaigns at this moment because regardless of who they donate to, they're going to be shunned and shamed and you know then people have to give money back and PACs will have to be investigated. So I saw the news media being very careful about, you know, even every article I found, you know, doesn't mention the companies that these people run. Just, oh CEO of this kind of company, of a, you know, a shoe company, and this stuff. And I felt that to be disingenuous.

04:17 That's a good point. I've seen a couple of lists of the people, but they never mention the companies. Never mention the companies, no. And also not mention, how about the admissions boards? Well, that is discussed because it seems as though there's some issues with the way it's structured. But they also don't mention the kids. Well, not yet. This is the thing, except there's a couple kids we do know for sure. Not Huffman's, but Laughlin's daughters who are both YouTube celebrities and have some clips from them which are very ironic. So I thought that I'd hate to do it. Okay, no, you don't hate it. It's great fun. I don't hate it, you're right. But let's back off and these kids because they just say, well, the kids, what are we gonna do with the kids?

05:12 The kids, you know, they were unwitting, they didn't know, and now they're going to be kicked out of... probably they should be kicked out of school, embarrassed, kicked out of school. And you end up with, well, the poor kids. The kids had to know what was going on. When you get it, you become a member of the women's crew team. And a lot of this is Title IX stuff, by the way, for people out there who follow sports, athletics in college. Title IX is the law that came down that says you have to give as much money to women's sports as you do to men's. There's a lot of women that aren't even remotely interested, but they still have all this money. And so they have a lot of this, it's not necessarily scholarships,

05:58 There's room for more women in sports, and so a lot of these are women that got in. So just briefly, just to recap the way I understood the way the scam works, this one guy apparently, I have a feeling there may be more, would connect With the parents and say okay, you've got a give me some bribe money and that could be in a combination of a donation somewhere But it seemed to be a lot of cash going to coaches special programs, you know nonprofits that were run by people in the athletic department that had like official sounding names And then what the coach would do is okay. Well this person clearly belongs on the rowing team or crew as we call it and

06:41 Yeah, or golf or here in UT of Austin, the tennis team. And then they would say, oh, this clearly we need to bring this person in because just look at the promise. And they went so far as to in some cases even Photoshop their kids heads to different athletic bodies, which is the best. That shows some real initiative and creativity right there. I love that. It's one of my favorite things. Yeah. So now is this The reason why this is a big deal is A, because it's a lot of elites, and in this case we have two Hollywood elites, kind of interesting. But there's some actual legality around this, especially institutions that receive federal funds. This is a violation of actual laws, right? Yeah, no, there's a lot of... it's basically a giant fraud case.

07:36 My Mimi says that she may have heard from this guy back years ago when he was running his operation out of Sacramento. And I suspect, and I don't know if this is going to get looked into, that the only reason I think JC was having trouble in some horrible private school. A little call came in. I think that there was some collusion between the high schools. and the and this operation for probably some funds I assume I think we should investigate kindergarten some sure this goes all the way down to K well I think it goes down the kindergarten okay using that sarcastic

08:20 Not really, no, that's not sarcastic. I think that that may be. Well, there are kindergarten people I know struggle in New York City and some of these places. Oh my God, we've got to get my baby can't get into the right kindergarten. There is an element to that. That's the whole patch in baby. I get in. Yeah, I get in anyway. The, so there's, and she says it's just some guy was a hard sell. You know what, you know, I'm going to do this. I can do this. I can do this. I can do that. And Mimi's response to the whole thing was, everything you've described to me, I can do. Yeah. I can bribe people. I don't need you for that. I asked her why she never told me about this and she said, because you'd say the same thing I did. Uh-huh. What are you going to do with this guy? They want to win too much money. Meanwhile, your son graduated cum laude. He went to Evergreen. Crazy school, anyway. He went to Evergreen? Yeah.

09:16 Oh my goodness. All right. Nice. His wife. So this, you know, worked out for them. Yeah. So one of the people that's good anyway, the kid, they talk about the kids and they say, well, the kids probably, I don't believe that because the kids had to, some of them had to take the special exams and as private setting with people sitting right next to them. There's a whole slew of problems with the kids, but let's play. My favorite one is this woman who's a YouTube celebrity called Olivia Jade. And she's one of the daughters of Laughlin. Is that who she is? Yeah, she's one of the daughters of Laughlin. She's a very famous YouTuber. She has like 2 million followers on YouTube and Instagram. And

10:01 I have one wrap-up of her which is the Olivia Jade original does not care for school 34 second clip. And then the whole college thing, yep I'm going. I'm living in a dorm with a roommate who's so sweet. With work it's gonna be hard like my first week of school I'm leaving to go to Fiji for work and then I'll be in New York a bunch this year for work. and traveling to a different country because I'm creating something with this country and that's for work so I don't know how much of school I'm gonna attend but I'm gonna go in and talk to my deans and everyone and hope that I can try and balance it all but I do want the experience of like game days, partying

10:41 I don't really care about school. You guys all know. Fuck school! Woo! She's the one that went to USC with her sister, who I think will both get drummed out. Now is this so competitive, USC? Is this a competitive school? This is the joke of it. I went to the University of California, Berkeley, and our thoughts are always the same about USC. How hard is it to get into USC? Or how dumb must you be to be rejected? It's called the University of Spoiled Children. She's like a classic person that would have gone to USC just normally, but they had this, you know, they got, I think the fan, they just, a lot of them got ripped off because she's too dumb to realize it, that, you know, she didn't, her kid could have gotten into USC, no problem, but now she's going to get booted out.

11:34 And that's going to be very, it's going to be tough on her, on her, her YouTuber career. Cause she, apparently her and her sister are inundated with the internet hate. Yeah. Wait, wait until they get de-platformed. YouTube should take them off. They're horrible examples. They should be de-platformed, de-monetized, de-platformed and de-boned. They should be de-boned. So there's another clip from her. She just got, she, for one thing, she goes to USC. Her whole first week is class she misses completely because she goes to Fiji. This is how entitled this woman is. So let's play Olivia Jade back from Fiji. So we made it in the dorm. I'm gonna turn some lights on. This is so weird for me.

12:22 This is my new ring light. This is so crazy. I'm like sweating. It's a million degrees out. Hi everybody! Welcome back to my channel. I'm in my dorm right now. This is so crazy and I'm still trying to keep up with twice a week posting while also being in college. But we're gonna make it work. So today I'm getting ready for my first college party. It's an all-black party and I'm gonna do my makeup, my hair, my outfit to show you guys. And I just think it's fun because I'm an adult! Are you proud of me? Are you guys proud I'm here? One thing not well widely known is that John C. Dvorak, my colleague, really enjoys watching these YouTubes. You watch these kind of YouTubers a lot. Admit, you love this stuff. I...

13:05 Come on. It's a sick habit. I'm telling you, it's given me a lot better vision because I roll my eyes and roll and roll and roll. Lots of exercise, yes. It's great exercise. And I don't know a lot of these personalities, but when I mentioned this at the dinner table, Jay kind of knew who this woman was and there's tons of them and you know this for a fact because every once in a while I run into one. You send it to me. And I'm watching 20 minutes like what was I watching this for? Yeah, by the way this... There may be a hundred of these women. Oh yeah. But they have big followings I think unless there's bots involved. Could be could be phony below. Maybe her mom paid for that too. What do you know?

13:51 Mom maybe went out and bought some bought some subscribers I'm gonna put my hair. I want to listen to this black party. It sounds pretty racist. I'm going to Wet my beauty blender and then set up a mirror and then I'll be right back. I guess this is so crazy I'm in a dorm. This is like not the normal setup I'm still gonna be going home and filming videos for you guys just because I don't want all my videos But this gorgeous dorm background, but let's start with priming. We're gonna moisturize my face I'm still learning where I keep everything but I want to just kind of I will say Moisturizing is critically important. Talk to you guys about

14:28 My first, well I got back from Fiji and I have a little bit of vlog footage, but I didn't get enough footage so I'm just gonna make it into a weekly vlog and just include what I got. Cause I totally was spacing on vlogging, but that's okay, I was just enjoying my time there. I'm just using a little tinted moisturizer, I'm not a big foundation girl. This is so bad. There are people in the troll room actually begging for you to play an Amy Goodman Democracy Now! clip. They can't listen to this. She talks a lot. I didn't realize that until I started listening to her and watching her. Yeah. Okay. Well, I had a third clip, but where she's going to college. Oh, come on. Let's do it. We might as well do it. So this is her going to college. Aware and like self-conscious. She got scammed into college. Now she's happy to be going. Into my life. But since I'm going to college, I need to work on just seeing the good in people before I think everyone's

15:21 Just an asshole because people are really nice and I just don't give anyone a chance. So this question is like Such a big question I get so I'm gonna answer it Will you be attending college? And if not, what's the next step on your career you wish to focus on? So I'm doing both. I'm going to be attending college. If you know where I'm going, please just don't comment it down below. I just don't want to deal with that. That's already my big fear of meeting people. Oh, I don't want to deal with that. So my life is just so horrible. I'm so famous. People at my college are just going to use me. Yeah, I can't listen. Do you mind if we not play the rest?

15:56 It's fine. Okay, that a couple of things about so full of herself. It's like ridiculous. I mean, it's you kind of have some sort of us. I hate to say this, but and there's a word for it for for kind of enjoying watching someone suffer. Yeah, from Freud and Schade. Yeah, exactly. It's a fine German word. Well, there's only the Germans would have a word. Oh, yeah. A couple of things going on with this. One, of course we never want to let a good crisis go to waste so now Jared Kushner's Harvard acceptance is being questioned. Let's dig into that. Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure he's privileged and I'm sure all these things happen. What's beautiful about this is it's really, it's out in the open and there's no way around it and everyone can just... I will have to stop on the Kushner thing. All right, please. Kushner and Harvard is very well known, Harvard and Yale to some extent.

16:53 maybe as much as Harvard and probably Princeton. But Harvard, I know for a fact, because I know a lot of Harvardians, is very much into the practice of if you're an alumni, in other words, you, dad, went to Harvard, you can get your kid in. Right. This is the stuff I was talking about earlier. Yeah, that's what you were talking about earlier. And that's very common at schools like Harvard. Sure. And it's not corrupt practices. What we're talking about here is people phoning up You know, taking an SAT, the SAT was another element of this where somebody else actually took your test or they changed your scores or you got bigger. This other element is fraud. Now I'm assuming that Laughlin and Huffman and Macy and the rest and the husband of Mosimo, they weren't alumni's of anything as far as I can tell. No, no, in fact it was to let their kids have the college experience they couldn't afford.

17:49 There was that at the, or they didn't have time for us. But whatever, that's different. That is, they fraudulently got their kids into these schools and they will get booted out. That's hugely different than somebody having pulled at Harvard because they have a building named after him, they're an alumni, and they have a kid that wants to go to Harvard. That's different. That's maybe corrupt at some level, but that's the standard practice. So this Kushner thing is just a nonsense creation. Yeah, but no, no, no, it's a... Orange man bad. Just to lump it in, you know, we've got to do something with it. We can't, we can't be... We've got to blame Trump. We've got to blame somebody. And also, how easy are these schools? I mean, these kids graduate. Yeah, some of them have, yeah. So this must be a pretty... I don't know about this education. What I like about this thing in general is

18:49 That now parents can like I think your your parents probably said it to you and my I might hear it every day and my mom's voice is Life is not fair You know my parents have actually never said that oh, oh, I got that all the time. I guess what life's not fair Yeah, and it's true and here's proof of it. It's not fair There's nothing you can do to make this more fair, but there's something under underneath all of this Which is not being addressed although I did get a clip here from professor Woodson He's a black professor. I started the Woodson Institute, I guess and

19:24 And he was on Fox and he said, ha, child abuse. I really think it amounts to child neglect and child abuse. We are raising children in an entitlement mentality and environment where they feel entitled, so do their parents. One of the most important books that I've read about this and I commend to your viewers is Richard Watt's book, Fables of Fortune, what rich people have that you don't want. And the sequel to that is Entitlemania, where he talks about the entitlement mentality. The very fact that we are exempting these children from the opportunity to be agents of their own uplift, and as a consequence, places like Palo Alto have a suicide rate that is six times the national average among teenagers.

20:10 There are people in that community who are wearing safety vests at railroad crossings because of a high number of teenagers that feel the stress of meeting expectations. So I think it's worse than that, this old entitlement mentality. that also exists among low-income blacks where the highest death rate is from homicide because reparations is the moral equivalent of what these parents are doing. We'll get to reparations later but you know I agree with him this of course this is child abuse, this is total child abuse. And if anything lock the parents up for child abuse.

20:53 Well, I think again, Olivia Jade, for example, probably could have gotten into USC just based on her...not because she's a YouTube celebrity, but she's got a lot of initiative to be doing what she's doing. And she could have gotten in if she put her mind to it, but no, no, they had to cheat her into the place. Unbelievable. It really is. And again, it's USC. And I don't want to offend any of our USC contributors, I'm sure we have a few. Yeah, but it's also UT Austin, it's a whole bunch of universities. Yeah, UT Austin got busted with the tennis professor. Ah, yes. Well, I think it's good. This stuff needs to be out in the open.

21:44 And people need to see it and recognize it for what it is. I wonder what's going to happen. I think they're going to focus on the actresses and all attention is going away from very wealthy people. We're talking billionaire level people. Interestingly, you see that list, what kind of people could afford this kind of money too. Well, this is one or two got really, really raped. I mean, six million dollars or big bonuses of a million dollars to some coach. I mean, it was ridiculous when other people were weren't paying that much. Yeah. Let's see who did we how dumb were these kids as to how we look at it?

22:24 Well, you know, I don't even think they're dumb. This is at this point. It's probably just something that is done with junior What's wrong with some elites kid going to a junior college? Community college or going to a small, you know state socially unacceptable The parents will get weird looks at the parties that you know I need to speak with about this is the former New York banker So I have reached out to him for a hey, let's have lunch. I He moved to Austin for his kids. He wanted to get out of that system and that truly is the reason. There is that element, especially back East. Oh, oh, oh, he's going to what city? College of New York instead of Swarthmore? I thought he was going to go to Swarthmore. Oh, did the promotion not come in this year from the bank? So yeah, there's that element and it's got nothing to do with the kids. And I think a lot of kids would benefit from going to a good

23:23 City College of New York's a good school. There's a lot of those around the country that are good teachers. That's never gonna happen. That's not how it works. Forget it. This is, this is, this is not, it's not even about the school. It's about prestige. And it's, and it's setting your kids up for failure. Really? Yeah. Well, they will have issues when they get older. Yes. Unless they stab the parents. What if I jump over to, I'd like to jump over to that Woodson, Professor Woodson again. Because this reparations thing, we've talked about it a few times. Yes. It always shows up.

24:08 And it tries to get legs during a Republican administration. Where was the reparations push during Obama's era? A black president. Well, here is, we'll start with Kamala Harris, who is not African American. So, you know, would she even have claim? She's a brown woman, but not African American. She's Indian Jamaican. and raised in Canada. Here she is on the topic. It means a little bit different things to different people, but I think generally the idea is the same. Before we continue,

25:02 Isn't the original reparations based on the promise of 40 acres and a mule? Was that the idea? Is that where this stems from? Don't think so. Hmm. Okay, just what's on her mind sure you can look at I left that in just for You can look at the issue no else does that Elizabeth Warren she does that all the time sure you love I untreated and undiagnosed trauma. African Americans have higher rates of heart disease and high blood pressure. It is environmental. It is centuries of slavery.

25:45 which was a form of violence where women were raped, where children were taken from their parents. Violence associated with slavery. And that never, there was never any real intervention to break up what had been generations of people experiencing the highest forms of trauma and trauma undiagnosed and untreated. leads to physiological outcomes. We're talking about the same thing as post-traumatic stress from a war. That's the kind of thing. Sure, absolutely. Sure! Listen, unless there's intervention done, it will appear to be perhaps generational, but it's generational only because the environment has not experienced a significant enough change to reverse the symptoms. You need to put resources and direct resources, extra resources,

26:37 into those communities that have experienced that trauma. So that's an example, in my mind, I think that the word, the term reparations, it means different things to different people. But what I mean by it is that we need to study the effects of generations of discrimination and institutional racism and determine what can be done in terms of intervention to correct course. All right, so there you go. Centuries of slavery have led to post-traumatic stress disorder for today's African Americans. It needs to be researched, she says, but yes, we need to put resources into that.

27:18 Now back to Professor Robert Woodson. Wheel spinning. Wheel spinning, yeah. But there's real talk about money in doing this. Well that's a plus. I mean, do you have to realize that the sociologists of this country and the world somewhat, although I think we have most of them, have been doing this since they've been cranking through this research forever. Here is back to Professor Robert Woodson, again African American professor. It's the most ridiculous proposal that I ever heard. First of all it's important to deconstruct it a little bit. Reparations, you know, the question is who pays and who gets paid?

28:00 People don't realize that slavery, there were blacks who owned slaves as well. There were 3,700 blacks. By the way, as a white guy, you never get to say this in public. It's the third rail of racial discussions. If you say, hey, hey man, there were black slave owners. They owned 12,000 slaves. Three tribes, the Chickasaws tribes, the Creek Indians. They own 3,500 slaves. So the question for me and for the audience should be, well who pays? Do the sons and daughters of those blacks and Native Americans that own slaves, do their ancestors, do they pay?

28:42 And so it's a little more complicated than people are making. What about the whites who came here after slavery? What about the hundreds of thousands who died fighting in the Civil War who never owned slaves? And so I just think that we ought to take this into consideration when we're talking about slavery. It's also providing exemption from personal responsibility, where all of the problems that black America has for someone to say that the answers to those challenges are external. Let's just say we accept the premise that reparations should be paid. What problem does it solve?

29:20 If whites played blacks money on Monday and we come back two weeks later, what would be the impact on black on black crime? What would be the impact of drug addiction about the high dropout rate? And so I just think it's lethal for us to just talk about a simplistic remedy so we can do virtue signaling on the issue of race and appear to be champions. That's the American way though. We solve everything with money. Where's he from? Climate change? Money! Everything's solved with money. But it is part of this pandering to a younger demographic who are coming up in the voting age, the college kids who can vote.

30:06 Yeah, the 18 was this new group the zoomers the zoomers. Yeah, oh generation Z Yes, and and we got a note about that about it and and you know when I read that note even though it was a well-known producer and He's donated and he's been around woman was a wife. Well, it's a dawn Maybe it was the one bitchin and moaning. Yeah, but I well I said producer that I I don't remember if was a man or woman and Do I have the note here? No, I have it here. No, I have it here. No, slave D.

30:43 John and Adam, I'm a long time listener and contri- this is how much I care, I put it in the show notes. I'm a long time listener and contributor of the show with multiple executive producer credits. I love you both dearly and have nothing but respect for the incredible work you both do. However, I'm not sure what's going on with the two of you that you have completely missed the biggest news story of this current campaign cycle. Andrew Yang. He's a former s- I'm reading with emphasis. He's a former- Well, you're reading with the right- you're reading as it was written. Yes, I believe. He's a former CEO and political outsider with a rapidly growing grassroots movement that crossed party lines in terms of support, and neither of you seem to be on the ball here. Andrew Yang just spoke at South by Southwest and has been interviewed by Joe Rogan, Sam Harris, Tucker Carlson, The Young Turks, Ezra Klein, Freakonomics, CNBC, CBS.

31:31 business side and about 900 more since he announced his candidacy for POTUS in February. His campaign just raised over $1 million and has now crossed the 65,000 individual donor threshold needed to get him into the Democratic debates in June. Where the hell are you on this? Disappointed as fuck, Slave D. Now, when I read this, if Slave D had not said, I'm a producer, I would have thought, this is a campaign notice. It looks like it was copy-paste. Yes. Looks like a copy-paste. And I take this very seriously. Well, hold on a second. It doesn't mean she and he or whatever. Slave. Just slave. They're a $4 a week contributor for the last couple of years. That's fantastic. Executive producers, I can't find any, but it's possible maybe in 2017. Does not matter. Irrelevant.

32:25 But that looked like cut and paste to me, too. It felt like it. And if you're in it, then she or he may be part of a... of the group that's promoting this guy. Clearly. And they were all told to do this. And that's okay because... Because it's fine with me. Listen... It was a wake-up notice. I like getting it. And let me tell you what I did. I went looking for Andrew Yang. Oh, I already knew about this guy. He's because I was doing my breakdown of all the candidates. He's a third-tier guy He's got no chance of going anywhere and he's like a huge climate change nut Completely off the deep end bitching and moaning about all the hurricanes more than ever that is not his primary platform That's what I thought as well. Your platform is hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Just be quiet. Hold on Let me lead in go his

33:21 Why are the zoomers so interested? Why are they all in on this and it fits in with the climate change it fits in with Other issues that are taking place and I went to the tonight show of our era of the zoomers I went to Joe Rogan first question out of the box his platform is Universal basic income. This is what this is all about Yes, yeah, that's what my campaign for president is all about that's a an interesting like focus of a campaign and very unusual and I mean four years ago you'd never even thought that that would have

33:59 chance at all, but this is a subject that has been gaining momentum. Listen to Rogan. Listen to what Rogan says here. I made a big shift because I had my friend Eddie Wong on once and he was the first person to bring it up and my initial knee-jerk reaction was get the fuck out of here. Like universal basic income. I'm just gonna give people money. They're just gonna be lazy. Nothing's ever gonna get done. That's a terrible idea. And then And then I started paying attention to the rise of AI and automation and how many jobs are gonna get taken away And then once you see the actual numbers, it's pretty staggering. So I'm gonna have like a minute left on this clip

34:38 But this is what has been going on with college kids, or with the Zoomers as they're called. They've been beaten into fearful submission of the earth collapsing on top of them, AI is taking over, you'll have no job, shut up slave, and instead of looking at other innovations that could take place, or other black swans, you name it, or the actual reality of robots on the road, Rogan bought into it, listen to the whole interview, it's about an hour, two hours, and based on some prognostications like the solution is well, you know because we're gonna have these these kids You know these these kids won't have any jobs. So we got to give them some money so they can be creative and create great art Here's the next minute. Yeah, and that's how I got there Joe Like I spent the last seven years running an organization that I had started called venture for America And we helped create about 3,000 jobs in Detroit Cleveland st. Louis Birmingham New Orleans other cities around the country and

35:40 And I saw that we're pouring water into a bathtub that has a giant hole ripped in the bottom. And that for every 5, 10, 50 jobs that my entrepreneurs are going to create, we're going to lose 5, 10, 50,000 jobs. It's not something that people intuitively suspect could be a real issue either. It's one of the ones where you kind of have to like go ahead and shake people, like, hey, look at this. This is coming. There's a cliff. We're going towards this cliff. It's darker still in that, so when I was digging into the numbers, I found that it's not this cliff that we're heading towards. It's actually more of a curve that we're on. What I've been telling people is that we're in the third inning now.

36:18 Where one of the main reasons why Donald Trump won in 2016 is that we automated away 4 million manufacturing jobs that were based in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin, Missouri, Iowa, all the- Really? Was that all automation or did a lot of it go to China? Bull crap. Most of it went overseas. Yeah, that's little Chinese children are taking our little children's jobs. They're the ones gluing the shoes together. So that's not, I mean, sure there's automation, but that's not all because of automation. Automation is always factored in. Just to make this clip more tolerable, I'm going to interrupt with this. When I was a kid, and I'm a baby boomer, so when I was a kid, we were actually told this.

37:05 This is not a new idea and I'm very familiar with it because we were told when I was a kid when we were taught and we had real classes on history, American history, we're not a lousy country, we're a great country, all this kind of thing. We were told that this country would eventually be run by robots and everything be automated because it's going to be everything as it gets more and more toward the future. We're going to have less and less people, less and less of these horrible jobs, these horrible assembly line jobs. And by the way, I think a lot of the movement of taking jobs out of the United States and sending them to China was stemming from this sort of belief that these assembly line jobs are terrible. And I've worked on assembly lines, a couple of them, and they're terrible, but you get a lot of money. But that's beside the point. The idea was this is all gonna go away and then we're all gonna live in this giant socialist, even though it was never called that, but some sort of an environment where you have, where all the money is, the giant corporations make all this money off because they're using robots instead of people and they'd be distributing the wealth.

36:18 Where one of the main reasons why Donald Trump won in 2016 is that we automated away 4 million manufacturing jobs that were based in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin, Missouri, Iowa, all the- Really? Was that all automation or did a lot of it go to China? Bull crap. Most of it went overseas. Yeah, that's little Chinese children are taking our little children's jobs. They're the ones gluing the shoes together. So that's not, I mean, sure there's automation, but that's not all because of automation. Automation is always factored in. Just to make this clip more tolerable, I'm going to interrupt with this. When I was a kid, and I'm a baby boomer, so when I was a kid, we were actually told this.

37:05 This is not a new idea and I'm very familiar with it because we were told when I was a kid when we were taught and we had real classes on history, American history, we're not a lousy country, we're a great country, all this kind of thing. We were told that this country would eventually be run by robots and everything be automated because it's going to be everything as it gets more and more toward the future. We're going to have less and less people, less and less of these horrible jobs, these horrible assembly line jobs. And by the way, I think a lot of the movement of taking jobs out of the United States and sending them to China was stemming from this sort of belief that these assembly line jobs are terrible. And I've worked on assembly lines, a couple of them, and they're terrible, but you get a lot of money. But that's beside the point. The idea was this is all gonna go away and then we're all gonna live in this giant socialist, even though it was never called that, but some sort of an environment where you have, where all the money is, the giant corporations make all this money off because they're using robots instead of people and they'd be distributing the wealth.

38:05 It's apparent to me looking back on it that the same kind of problems we have with the educational system existed back then. But because that's nonsense in many ways because no one's gonna give up this money I mean if you look at any venture capitalists, you know They're just as soon fire everybody in the company if they could and keep all the money for themselves Yeah, and that's kind of the way the system works and you can condemn it or not condemn it or you can crash the market And they'll take care of that. Well, I find it somewhat short-sighted Because humans are known to come up with great new technological inventions

38:41 And just to say, well that's it, we're done. Robots take over and you can all sit at home and smoke weed. Which I kind of like that idea myself, but you know, that, it just doesn't seem like there's any room for any innovation. Yeah, until you look around the room. You see the beer cans and I mean, this is the problem. Well here's where Yang runs into trouble, because this was a deconstruction of Yang. You can't be for easy, I'll just call it easy immigration if you have universal basic income. If you have universal basic income in your country, you need a moat. You need a moat with alligators and booby traps because everyone will want to come in. Like, hey, you can go there and that will be a problem. So Yang is not talking about the other side of his universal basic cable, which I think is... That's what I'm for. Everybody gets universal basic cable.

39:40 That's better than the whole income. Yeah, no, you have to have a very strict no immigration policy. In fact, yes, of course you do. Of course you do. But that's not what Yang is for. And that's not discussed in the that I can recall in this interview. But that would be the gotcha. And if Rogan was doing his job, he would have called him out on that. Well, think about this. It's actually not such a bad idea. Because all these people who apparently there's no job for also are afraid and don't want any kids. They're just gonna sit home take care of their dogs and within two generations they're all gone and dead and only the productive necessary people are left over. So it's that's it's also kind of a maybe a good thing.

40:21 It's a natural order working itself out. Well, if the nihilism kicks in, which it seems to do easily, especially with the younger generations, well, I don't know. But I think that may have been the case years ago too. I'm not sure that any of this is is new. There's some other structural thing that needs to be fixed and I'm not sure what it is, but it's definitely not solved by shipping all the companies and jobs overseas. No, no. But I think it's just also poor economics, just really not understanding even where we're at and how realistic a lot of this stuff is. The only thing I see a valid argument in is truck drivers.

41:07 That I think is, I think there will, we will see autonomous trucks eventually. Maybe not in your and my lifetime because it takes so long for this to work without a driver. And even then you can have one driver, you know, scanning 30, 40 different trucks. Oh, you get, here's the real problem. You get the Teamsters Union. Another issue. They're going to start, you know, popping holes in tires, running trucks off the road. putting IEDs on the road. Yeah, baby. I mean, it's not going to work because of that. There's too many truck drivers that aren't going to put up with getting, a lot of them are already getting screwed one way or another by Mexican drivers that are allowed to drive on our roads. So really the universal basic income is a globalist plan

41:53 to shut people up while their lives are being taken away. You want to protest? I'll tell you what, well just give us some money, don't protest. Yeah, shut up and get over there. Now here's one of the other issues I have with universal basic income which I I know, I know. Which has been voted down in country, I think Switzerland voted, they had a referendum, they said no. No, I think they experimented with it and won and they can't. They started again, they started again, but the town, isn't Stockton, California trying that now? I don't know that. The EU countries have rejected it. It's not necessarily cut and dry system that works. Well, it's subject to fraud if it's not universal. Actually universal, so you have a real problem there. In other words, you can't do it in some spot because people are just going to come over there. Hey, I might check too. Exactly. But if you have everybody getting a basic $4,000, is that, and I'd like to talk to some macro economists about this, won't that just jack everything up?

42:50 So now the base level of being broke is $4,000? Oh no, it's better than that. The $4,000 comes in, where does that go to? It goes to the same people who are automating, namely Amazon. People are going to spend their money on more shit from Amazon. So the guys who automate win. It's almost like free tax money. And for the weed dealers, of course. Yes, well actually that's true. That's where the money would go right to the people who would who caused yes who caused the problem? It's it's a gang is really a globalist prick. Well. I look over his whole platform Not just those three items he has on his front page and the rest of it. I think he's probably a globalist prick I would say that's probably true

43:40 Seems like it to me and he's got his you know, he's got his million dollars, you know, they take the hard note writer Pointed out and there's 65,000 individuals contribute so he can be on the debate stage He says go on the debate station. It's gonna be just another Another guy that won't be on the debate stage two debates later, right? He can't keep up to pace. Nobody's gonna... It's not... No, the guy's third tier. He's not... That's why we never discussed him. I knew all about him. I saw a couple of specials on him. He's got a good publicist, that's for sure. But he's not... It's just kind of a hobby nominee. Well, Elizabeth Warren is running her campaign. That's definitely a hobby at this point.

44:25 I don't know why she's still in the first year in my opinion. Well, she's got to be wasting her money, but she's got a message that I think is accurate but falls on deaf ears. People don't really want to understand, you know, the deal we make with Silicon Valley and the tech companies. And a quick clip of that. Sure. I told you. This is about... Sure. In her platform she now speaks of breaking up the Silicon Valley tech companies. Sure. Let's use the example of Amazon. Amazon runs two kinds of businesses. One is it runs a platform.

45:06 And that's the place where all the small businesses come and they trade and they, uh, buyers and sellers meet and Amazon runs that platform, but also tons of. Hey, stop. Yeah. Stop. I want to, I want you to start over because I want to put a preface in here. Okay. Now, breaking up companies, I used to write a lot of columns about breaking up Microsoft. The rationale for breaking up a company is that the company is unfairly leveraging everything they do in a very monopolistic manner or some way that gives them a distinct advantage.

45:48 Microsoft was a good example of this because they would bundle the Explorer and if it was a Microsoft operating system, it worked best if Lotus got bumped off because Windows isn't ready or there's a rhyme to it. Windows isn't done until Lotus won't run. Yeah, okay, that's your developer mantra. Yeah, yeah, and so they had this and they said that because they had Excel and so they would you know so you're leveraging all these different things into to one monopolistic practices operation Amazon's got two things more or less. They've got a retail store and AWS and

46:36 They're not leveraging one. They're not using those two items to leverage the company. If they didn't have AWS, they'd just have their own back end. Well, this is not what she's talking about, interestingly. Well, I thought she wanted to split off AWS from Amazon Sports. No, no, that is not what she wants to do. No. This is a... What the hell does she want to do with Amazon? Well, let's have a listen. Okay, sorry. I'm sorry. Ignore the preface. No, no, no. You make a very valid point. That's why I've typically ignored what she has to say. I kind of ignore her in general. But I wanted to hear the breakup of big tech and what her rationale was so can you tell us Liz? Sure, let's use the example of Amazon Amazon runs two kinds of businesses one is it runs a platform and that's the place where all the small businesses come and they trade and they buyers and sellers meet and Amazon runs that platform, but also sucks

47:35 out tons of information from every single transaction. It then uses that information that nobody else is privy to, to look out and say, oh, there's a profitable business. We think we'll go into competition with them. And so it then puts out a product in competition with the pet pillow sales guy and then moves profitable business back to page six and puts Amazon right at the front, Amazon's own business. So the way I see this is a little like baseball, we'll use a baseball analogy here. You can be the umpire, that's the platform, or you can have a team in the game, that's running these individual businesses that meet on the platform, but you don't get to do both simultaneously. So I think those ought to be broken apart.

48:27 I think she has a point here because that is something Amazon actively participates in. I've heard plenty of horror stories. It's even worse. It's almost like a de-platforming. Yeah, Microsoft used to do that pull that stunt. Sure. I mean, and you know Apple used to... Sure, you say sure. Sure. It's the lexicon. All the hip kids are saying it. Sure. Sure. That's the show title. Sure. You know Apple will find something that's popular. You know hey, this is a this is a great little Application they will create it themselves stick it right in the OS and screw you independent developer Yeah, that happens and this Amazon this Amazon deep platforming it really does happen But I'm baffled by the idiocy of all of

49:13 Yeah, I understand that it's a great way to make money, but the future lies in the decentralized nature of the internet. You can stick up a web page, you can get paid, if you are daring enough you'll use PayPal, but you could actually use Bitcoin or other things. It is a, and this is why I think Amazon should not be broken up. I think, and not for this reason, I think that the Vendors, it would be just like Uber. It would not be hard to create a cooperative system that everybody could use. Done. I agree. But let's stop for a second and how do you, what is this, they can be regulated but broken up, what do you break them into? Well, Bezos can be broken into little bits.

50:01 Just because it'd be fun to watch. No, you can't. It's all integrated. It's their business. It is their actual business. And they have a big advertising business too. So yeah, I mean, but they can be circumvented so easily. Any provider could say, you know what? I'm not going to deal with Amazon. They're a-holes. I'm going to do it over here. Now, will you get the promotion of Amazon? No, but do you know how hard it is to make money? Ask Eric the shill. How hard is it to make money on Amazon? It's hard. They take a lot. There's all kinds of stocking issues, and it's just it's not it's not simple to deal with them But you gotta be there, and I'd say no reject it Maybe one of those universal basic income kids will come for the decentralized Amazon like platform. It's not unthinkable Well Amazon has done a pretty good job of putting it all together of course they have and they have you know 25 what 25 years almost

51:00 They didn't just start yesterday. So what other people in Congress are doing, although Elizabeth Warren, it's a great little talking point, break them up, ha ha ha, they took down her Facebook ads. And subsequently Facebook had to go off-air for most of the day. Another OTG moment. Do you know how many companies lost money because they rely on Facebook, their company web pages? I think that's dumb. Yes, of course it's dumb. How hard is it to have your own web page? But the dumb part is that people do not... they're not...

51:38 The first one they have no vision, but they have not been taught what the internet is. To most people today who have not witnessed the rise and went through the personal computer revolution or have not just not been taught, not read about it, have not been taught, they think that just like AOL used to be, I got the internet, you know, I'm good, I got AOL. Was it really the internet? No, not really. Keyword! You got your keywords. Google is not the only place to search. Yeah, well you get the same result. I don't know, I haven't used it in two years and I get interesting results at work. Sometimes I have to resort to Google for a certain newsworthy item, but otherwise no. I can get it from other places. It's just not necessary. It's like, you know, your email doesn't have to be just from Gmail. But no, this is being, just not being taught. That's the universe. If the universities would teach some of that, I'd be okay with the social justice crap.

52:34 But they don't. And then we have... I'm actually stunned by this. Just, I think it's like one of the most important things. Universities, nuts! Teach kids how to set up a web page. Just teach them how to set up a Linux box. This is high school stuff, not university stuff. When they're 7th and 8th grade even, you could put up a web page. This is a note to homeschoolers. A part of your homeschooling curriculum should be, your kids should be able to start up a server. A web server, how about that? Just a web server and publish a page and register a domain name and map it. Yeah, you could do it on a home computer. Yeah, of course.

53:13 I mean, if it got popular, your ISP would not be happy, but you could still do it as just an exercise. There was a very good C-SPAN televised questioning of a very stupid guy and the wrong guy. And this is a typical, we're going to haul you in before the Senate. I think it was the judicial oversight for some reason. Senator Harley, Republican from Missouri, was questioning Mr. DeVries, a Google scholar who they sent to Washington to be the slaughter, the lamb sent to be slaughtered, and man did he get slaughtered. And this is all of and... Hold on, back off. I didn't catch this. So wait a minute, so Google now has

53:58 Do you think they're just laughing about this at Google HQ? The Google Scholar program has been around for a couple years. It's been around for a while. Really? Yeah, and you go and lecture and you become important and I think you get a badge. You get maybe a sash. Maybe they should run it out of USC. I'm a Google Scholar. This is about Google's practices in one area only, and that's the clips I have for you for today. And it's the most important area I have learned through my OTG experiments, is location. What is your location? Your location tells who you're with, what you're doing, if you're at the doctor's office, if you're shopping, all these things. Location is the number one, Google's foundation

54:45 is based on Keyhole. That's where they really got their goods from. And that was the geospatial database and the mapping system and location is the most important thing Google does. And so this guy attacks the scholar about their practices. arguably most powerful company in the world. I noted your testimony, your written testimony. You say for over 20 years now our flagship products have been free. And then you go on to say next paragraph that Google clearly explains how it makes money and clearly explains how your products use personal information. And my question is, is that really true? Are any of those statements actually

55:49 True. So let's take some examples. Let's start with location tracking. Let's start with your Android phones. Do you think the average consumer would be surprised to learn that her location is recorded and sent to Google hundreds of times every day even when she is not using her phone. Thank you, Senator. I do think we take as strong an effort as possible to try to explain these things clearly. I understand that it's complicated the way a mobile phone works. Do you think she would be surprised to learn that even when she's not using the phone, an Android phone, Google is receiving information about where she is. For instance, it's every four minutes or 14 times an hour, roughly 340 times during a 24-hour period. That's without use of the phone. Do you think she'd be surprised to learn that? So Senator, I know that location information is absolutely core to making a mobile phone work the way that you want it to work. It's what makes maps work, it's what makes your phone calls be able to be routed correctly.

56:49 And we have an optional service that's opt-in called Location History which can collect location over time if people turn that on. He described it perfectly. They track your location, they have an optional service. Which says you're turning off location history. You're not... and that's the point that the senator doesn't understand because legally they're saying yeah, you are now opting out, you're turning off your history. So that one application which enables you to see your history, it doesn't work anymore. But nowhere do they even claim that the location services are turned off.

57:29 So this is a surprise to the senator and he takes the very simple route of well it's ads, the guy fumbles on this one. Whereas of course as I said earlier what you can actually do with location and especially if there's things like accelerometers to know if you're taking the bus, walking, sitting up in bed, you know doing all that stuff, Google knows. Let's just get that on the record. Google collects geolocation history and information even if location history is turned Do you think that an average consumer, let's say a teenager with an Android phone, would be surprised to learn that Google is tracking his location even when location services are turned off by scanning Wi-Fi networks around him throughout the day? Do you think he'd be surprised by that?

58:12 Senator, I know that this data is used to provide value back to the user to make their phone work. You're not really... They're value for value now all of a sudden. My questions. You're telling me you don't think a consumer should be surprised? You think they should anticipate that? They have location services turned off. Well, Senator, so in order to make, say, Maps work to be able to locate you and give you directions where you go, Maps needs to know where you are. The phone's off. Well, in order to be able to just perform basic functions to keep it... Location services are off. Indeed, Senator. In order to be able to know where it is so it can route phone calls to you, so it can collect the basic information... So the consumer cannot meaningfully opt out? I mean, he has gone and tried to turn location services off. He's not using his phone. It's still communicating and sending information to him?

58:58 Is he claiming that the Google location services is how they can route a call to you and it's not the cell phone network itself? Is that what he said? his comment there is, well, you know, phones need this. He was kind of pushing it off on the network provider. Well, you know, they need to know where you are in order to route a call, implying that the location of the cell towers is critical, because yeah, if you're not within range, you can't be reached. But that they also have that data. That's what it implies to me that Google knows what cell you're connected to. Various cell towers, but it's got absolutely nothing to do with Google. No, but Google has that data too. They know what cell tower you're talking to. They have every data point they can grab. But this guy's bullshitting him. Hey, hey, hey, he's a scholar. He's a Google scholar.

59:57 I wonder if there's a college I can buy my way into. He's not using his phone. It's still communicating and sending information to you and you're monetizing it and using it to direct ads at him, correct? We are not using that information to direct ads at him. No, sir. Oh, this is. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Wait for it. To provide value back to the user in terms of making their services operate. Wait, wait, wait, wait. You don't use the information? What do you do with that information? We use it to make sure that the We understand it's not of monetary value to you. There is some ways that location can be used for ads. So for instance your I thought you just said it wasn't Senator there's there's there's the kind of geolocation that's sent from the cell towers from your GPS device That's used for purposes that are really about making the phone operate. I'm happy to explain this in more detail I understand it's a complicated topic and we get it better and we're complicated

1:00:49 Well, this is how he keeps reaching back and saying, we tell everybody this, you know, in the all caps portion of the EULA. We tell everybody about this. We need to communicate better. I think when somebody turns off their user information, their location history, they expect the location tracking to be off. But it's not. In fact, they don't have a way, apparently. So, you know, this is on C-SPAN, so it makes it into zero news. No one hears about it. Obviously, producers of this show know what's going on. He's going to wrap it up here and spank the guy now that he's got him over his knee. Do you think that an average consumer who's using your products fully understands that Google builds a profile about her, tracks where she goes to work, tracks where her boyfriend lives, tracks where she goes to church, tracks when she goes to the doctor? Do you think that an average consumer would anticipate that?

1:01:36 Senator, I know that we have a duty to communicate this information clearly. I don't believe we track the information at that level without communicating it. Do you think you're communicating it clearly when a consumer cannot turn off their location tracking? Senator, you can turn off location tracking. There are aspects of location though that are necessary to make services work, where if we turn those off, your phone wouldn't work the way you'd expect. And I know that's a complicated subject to explain. It is. and we're trying hard and we are hoping... It's actually, it's not complicated. What's complicated is you don't allow consumers to stop your tracking of them. You tell them that you do, you would anticipate that they do. A consumer would have a reasonable expectation based on what you've told them that they're not being tracked, but in fact you're still tracking it. You're still gathering the information and you're still using it. By the way, all of this is just fun. We're not even talking yet about search or internet tracking. I mean, listen,

1:02:27 My time has almost expired here. We could talk about the internet tracking that Google performs. We could talk about the lack of consent. Here's my basic concern, is that Americans have not signed up for this. They think that the products that you're offering them are free. They're not free. They think that they can opt out of the tracking that you're performing. They can't meaningfully opt out. It's kind of like that old Eagle song, you know, you can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave. And then that's too bad. She ruined it there for me. Yeah, it was a big... That was a big much. Ruined it for me there. This should have been Sergey Brin or someone of importance. Oh, they're never gonna go in front of these guys. No, they send the Google Scholars. Now you know what that's all about. Lead the lamb to slaughter. And of course it's not picked up anywhere. I mean, we'd love to see Larry Page up there. Oh, that'd be fantastic. Both of them. Page and Brin.

1:03:22 But yeah, you have to build a case against the against these guys in some very high level and then they're gonna have then they can make these guys show up. Hmm. Good luck with that. Number one lobbyists lobbyists in DC is Google. They've got everybody in their pocket. However, with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the C in college admission scams, John C. In the morning to everyone in the troll room. Hello trolls so helpful today No agenda stream calm where you can listen to the show live as we stream on Thursdays and Sundays. That's the other Thursday

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1:04:55 But it- he just threw everything in the kitchen sink in there and it was- but it was too- let me see if I can find it real quick. Yes, it was. Here it is. The AOC, so she had a rainbow in her hand, she was on puppet strings, she had a Donald Trump ecstasy pill, she had that that crazy guy's t-shirt on, but just the strings weren't big enough, you couldn't see it. Yeah, you couldn't see the strings. Couldn't see the strings well enough from any, you know, like in album art which is smaller than the submission is, because that was very close. We liked that one a lot too, it's just, yeah, you just couldn't quite see it. But anyway, we appreciate the work that all of our artists do and I can see people are already putting stuff in for this for today without even knowing what we're talking about. They're working on it and it's some fantastic artwork. It's well worth the visit to noagendaartgenerator.com. And unlike

1:05:44 Google, we do like the value for value system and we provide value. We give you, what is it about six hours a week worth of content. People seem to enjoy that and all we say is send us anything that you felt equaled the value you got. And that's how we come up with our executive and associate executive producers at the beginning of each show. And we have a few people to thank for as executive producers and associate executive producers for show 1120. And our buddy, Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch in Lower Selbovia has been sent in $902. Now today is Pi Day, which meant we're looking for 31, 3.141529, something like that. Yeah. So we had different donation amounts. How is the 902 derived? Did he send a note that we could understand? He did. He doesn't really ever... I think these are code numbers. It's a code to someone else that we have no part of.

1:06:42 We're like the crossword puzzle in the New York Times. But he doesn't even mention it, the donation. He just says a long note which says the following. We always read his notes because they're very good. Thank you for the continued deconstruction of the M5M brainwashing. The effort by educators, politicians, and media of all types to market ideas and products is a remarkable and continuingly refined art form. Your hard work and business model offers listeners a better way of being informed. So thank you. Following on John's comment about 1% of listeners donating, I am proud to be a 1%er where they are honored rather than villainized.

1:07:30 I can make an informed comment on the $100 bill circulation. With the strong dollar, it's preferred international currency. It's not all about crime, although US payoffs do help. Many seasoned travelers of all nationalities can carry hundreds to convert to local currencies as needed while receiving the best exchange rate with weaker currencies. Yes, you get a better exchange rate with American money. I learned a motto long ago that still applies. American hundreds don't leave home without... American Express Traveler's Checks. That's right, I remember that. A traveler's hint.

1:08:13 Make certain they are new and have no stray marks or tears or they will be rejected. Many foreign banks have an ink stamp to identify US hundreds they receive for local currency so they cannot be used again in place of the local currency but are returned to the US. They're defacing our money? Apparently. That's illegal. It's illegal for Americans to do that. Just one thing about that. One of our producers sent me a note about this question and said that many modern ATMs, modernized ATMs, now spit out 100s. Yeah, I've heard that. So that could also be something that's come into play. Maybe. A little travel overkill for me lately. I have not had five consecutive days in the same place since November. Wow. That's traveling. And it's a bit tiring.

1:09:08 Grounding of flights from drones at airports and bombings overseas were almost a relief to me. As your show often reinforces to its listeners, all news is about perspective and grounding flights helped my sanity. It just depends on where you are in life. Yeah, I guess. NJ, no jingles, but I would like some health karma for three people. Lyle my sarcoma returns for a family member living with us round three round three chemo for a dear friend 50 years after agent orange. Oh, thank you agent orange. Thank you The Lyndon Johnson, I guess yeah lung cancer of baby brother sir angelic night who has refused treatment. Yeah

1:10:05 So that's a big F cancer for them. You've got karma. Thank you very much. Seronimous of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia. Always good to hear from you and always curious about the codes. Very unique that he would ask for a jingle. Yes, it's rare, but a triple F cancer is... we get it. Next on the list is Sir Hey Idiot. $683 in Concord, California up the street for me. Credits are hey it is Pi Day, but as numerology goes, pi is damned mundane. So here's 683. Not just a garden variety prime, but the fourth Wagstaff prime

1:10:54 and a happy number. Yes. And the total of my last Amazon order. He would like a Respect and an LGY. It is a happy number. It's a happy prime. And it's a favorite. R-E-S-P-I-C-T. Yay! Okay. Thank you, sir, I-80 idiot. Sir Dreb Scott of the ELB Express. 67533. That's nice. No jingles, no karma. By my accounting, this brings me to night, to barren. I like to keep any protectorate in abeyance. John's newsletter email prompted this donation. I wanted to make sure I chipped in. Keep up the sanity generating deconstruction. Thank you very much. Sir Treb Skarch. Sir Tropfer Topfer. Sir Topper Topfer of

1:11:57 Tarpaule. Tarpaule. Tarpaule. Tarpaule. Sir Topher of Tarpaule. Okay. Chester. He's in Chester, UK. Yeah. 50901. Time for my annual contribution following my tax payment and sharing the surplus with you. Thank you for all you do. No jingles, no karma. The 50901 is $500 plus 901 as the date referenced below. A short additional note if I may. Like John, I believe in cycles, including the cycle of life and indeed the cycle of the NO Agenda producers. I will explain. On September 1st, 2018, we lost my friend and fellow Knight, Sir Jeffrey of Camden, who succumbed to cancer.

1:12:39 We know it was coming and if that cancer and if the F cancer from you gave him an extra year, I'll give you the donation in his honor as well as for your greater value. However, I recently learned that we had gained a new producer at about the same time, not realized by me, but following a visit to the USA to meet up with friends. I hit someone in the mouth and would like to now, I would now like a shout out to Chad Pooping Gardner. Pooping Gardner, Gardner, a millennial hipster in Chicago, as well as the lovely girlfriend Lauren Mahmood, who made me aware. She is technically a douche. Oh, he is, not her. She is, he is technically a douche, but I, but it's new. So I welcome Chad, who, so I didn't call him out, who fills big shoes.

1:13:32 Please, Adam, if you can, oh, okay, never mind, douche him, but gently as a reminder rather than a rebuke. How do we do a gentle douche? I mean, it's kind of hard. It's like, all right, well, here it comes. Be prepared. Douchebag. It's gentle. Oh, that's so disrespectful. It's gentle. It's gentle. Thanks for what both of you do. Thanks for everything. Thank you very much, Sir Topher of Tarpaulet. Fabian Meyer in Zurich, Switzerland. We got another Swiss, we got a lot of good Swiss coming in. $350. He did say, send an email and I have it open on the email. He says he has some fun facts about Switzerland in his note. Rarely do I hear someone say, I've got some fun facts about Switzerland. Well, especially about Switzerland. Yes. What are the fun facts? I don't know.

1:14:24 Do you have the email? Switzerland. He's got a payment history at the end of the note. Maybe he's asking for a nighting. You might want to get your pin out. Anyway, since, uh, no, with this donation of 350, I'll achieve night status. Okay. Ha, good to know. I'm glad I asked. Why do I love the show? I learned how to be woke in media. Great stuff to discuss with my wife. She is also a fan. You play unexpected. Okay, now you're gonna have to excuse me because I have the Sun again this only happens once one day a year So I never make this fix, but the Sun is in my eyes. Oh, you need to roll down the show my eyes try to read the note okay with unexpected information the shows very Entertaining part of it my mother my mother-in-law who is also an avid listener We got three Swiss there and the one family night name sir Fabian the fabulous mmm easy to remember

1:15:24 Round table. Yeah, Beaujolais and Greer Okay Beaujolais and Greer it's a great combo And now this jingle request now after I give you the jingle because I'm gonna read the fun facts ants Donald Trump bing bing bong bong bong bong and karma I'll look for that. Yeah There's only, there's five of these fun facts. Immigration into Switzerland, the rate is two times higher than in the USA. I find this hard to believe. Biggest group, Europeans who get better jobs than in the EU. Well, I don't find that hard to believe. Guns popular with kids. The city of Zurich has a holiday and big celebration called Knabenscheissen.

1:16:27 Now, but now been chasing every fall where fought 4,500 boys and girls in the ages 13 to 17 compete in shooting. The rifle is the official Swiss Army ordinance rifle. The winner gets a big cash prize and a dinner with the mayor. If you work in Zurich, you'll get half the day off because it's an official holiday. That's a little different than here. This was our, they respect arms. Insect burgers is number three. Sold in supermarkets since 2018, but sell really badly. The name is no kidding is insect burger and insect balls. I wonder why they don't like it. And he's got a photo which I can put in the newsletter.

1:17:19 He's got it from the... Sorry about that. He got it from the coop. I pre-binged. The coop, which nowadays, nowadays shops are the coop. The coop has a, um, has a glacial salt, which is, uh, I'm gonna have to, unfortunately my jar of it got thrown away. I'm gonna have to look it up. I'd love it if you could send me a bottle of it. It's a salt that's half salt and half potassium. So it's a mixed of salts.

1:17:55 Cash is king is number four. A new 1,000 francs bill, which would be the equivalent of this one to one, so it'd be a thousand dollar bill, has been released last week. The new bank note is everywhere in the news. Nobody is talking about a cashless society here. Okay? And Davos, the S in Davos is pronounced a soft S as in Davos, not Davo. I think we've always said Davo on this show. We've always said Davos. We never said Davo. We've always said, I've always said Davo. You said Davo. No, he says it's not Davo. Oh, it's Davos? It's Davos. Oh, okay. Davos. You gotta like... I think I've always said Davos because I know people that have gone there and they always call it Davos. Oh, then they should know.

1:18:40 But no, it's not Devo. Don't say Devo anymore. Belbiv Devos. And that's the last of the fun facts. Okay. Educational, by the way. That's what this show is known for. Hell yeah. And that's why we are happy to play your jingle request for you, even if I have to cut this one off because it's a little bit long. It's the ants. I got ants. I got ants. I don't know if you would hit it again. You've got karma. I never heard that one.

1:19:45 Ah, it's the Tetris theme. It's been a while since we've heard played that one for sure. Sir Werner Flipsen, 33333 out of Holland. Thanks for the great show. The best way to spend my commute from... Berge... Berge... Bergenhoek. Bergenhoek de Schiphol. Schiphol. Schiphol. Here's our No Agenda Wi-Fi night, which still works. I checked it out. The Wi-Fi Schiphol special No Agenda system is still operational, but...

1:20:21 He is, he's been offered a job at a different airport. I won't say which one. So sadly he feels that when, two things will happen. One, he won't have his, you know, his three-hour commute. He'll have like seven minutes. So he feels that he won't be able to keep up with the show. I'm thinking, come on man, you're at the airport. What are you really doing? What are you really doing? But also eventually the Schiphol Wi-Fi access may well just expire, but we certainly appreciate everything that's done and it's still there. Some new gal comes in, what is this? What is this? What is this? No agenda log in. What is up with that? So thank you very much, Sir Werner Flips. He's got to be a baron by now.

1:21:04 Let us know, Sir Verna, and thank you, as always. Sir Otaku, and Baron of the Northeast Texas, and the Red River Valley in Louisville, Texas, 31419, and that is, the 31419 is one of the variations of the pie donation. Happy Pi Day to the best podcast in the universe. Gonna get a JCD mac and cheese, a little girl yay, and some karma to kick off spring. 73's K5VZ. Yes, 73's Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie. You slaves can get used to mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Macaroni and cheese. Cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Yay!

1:21:51 You've got karma. Dame Gina in Providence Village, Texas, another Texan. 31416, another variation on the... The pie theme? That's the one that was cited, even though I got it from someone's 315, it should be a 5, it's another 6. Please credit Dame Gina. Noah Jenna keeps our family sane. Thank you for all the work analyzing the news so that we don't have to. Happy Pi Day. No jingles, no karma. Happy Pi Day to you, Dave Gena. Thank you. Sir Craig Porter in Portland, Oregon, 31416.

1:22:27 Hi John and Adam, happy Pi Day. Moved to Portland, it's been a successful thanks to No Agenda Karma. I'm thinking of creating a Portland No Agenda meetup for the Knights, Dames, and Well Wishers in the Rose City. Good. I'd like to request Karma for you guys as you always create a great show and you certainly deserve it. Also, an L Sharpton jingle could really hit the spot. Thanks and have a great day. 73's Craig Porter, K-E-O-U-A-K. Yeah, 73's Sir Craig, Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie. We should try a JS-8 call or something soon because I have a clean shot to Portland. So we should definitely try and get on the air together. Get on it, horn. But resist, we must. We must and we will much about that be committed. You've got karma.

1:23:28 Okay, Sir Kevin McLaughlin, Viscount of Luna and Locust, North Carolina, 31415, which is the one, he's the complainer. Double shot of F Cancer Karma for my uncle, Huey Willett and Eric, the manager, Arduini of Android App Addicts podcast in Rock Falls, Illinois. 31415 is the real pie donation. This is the one. It is truly the one. Thank you for your courage in keeping my amygdala small, Sir Kevin Vikan of Luna.

1:24:05 It truly is the one pie donation. Everyone else had the wrong numbers apparently. No, I put that number in as a roundup. I agree with you. There are purists out there. Um, double shot. You've got karma. Overload. Eric Hrisa. Came in with 250, he'll be associate executive producer from Blue Ridge, Georgia. He sent an email in, which I luckily found. My checks are from the US, but I live in the Cayman Islands. This would be a great place for a global get together. I work in the hotel business. A couple of comments from show, oh really? Yeah, Cayman Islands would be fun to go to. A couple of, we wouldn't get that many people that would do it though, it's kind of a,

1:25:05 It's kind of an acquired taste. It's a lie and there's nothing there but banks. A couple comments from shows over the past few months. I was in Paris, Rome and Florence at the end of November. If the Chinese tourists stop coming, Europe will go bankrupt. True. Especially Paris. Sains, same store company prices are up 40% off. Off in Rome compared to Paris. They've got there must be great deals going on. You think in Rome or Paris? Paris. I think he says Rome. I think Paris would be better. Well, we haven't been to Rome for a while and neither one of us. Well, I was when I was in Italy recently. Yeah, but Rome is a shopping Mecca. Yes. Well, actually Florence is the shopping Mecca.

1:25:56 That's all there is yeah, you got some statues and shit. I'm assuming the prices should be low everywhere, but I don't know Uh, it seemed like every second commercial on italian tv was for amazon and black friday This black friday thing has gone into gone viral. I don't know how amazon pulled that one global man rome was very big on black friday it is It isn't easy opening a bank account in the Cayman Islands. Opening accounts here is a major pain due to all the information that they ask for. Heaven forbid that you try to open a business account. That can take months. I guess that's a tip for anyone out there. Thanks for all the shows. My wife and I really enjoy them. Eric. Thank you very much, sir, Eric.

1:26:43 And the next one, let me open, change screens. Mike, this is Mike Poplis in Sterling, Massachusetts. And it's P-A-U-P-L-I-S, is that what it's spelled? Yeah, P-A-U-P-L-I-S. Yeah, let me see if I got a note from him. This I have to do in real time. That's okay. $234, Sterling, Massachusetts. Pop-U-L-S, give me the spelling again. P-A-U-P-L-I-S. Poplis. No messages found. Send it to us Mike if you got something. Thank you for your support of the show. Yeah, ditto. Sir David Fugazotto. Ian again. In Gladstone, Missouri. Holy crap. Another one. He's been donating the last... This is a classic example of your...

1:27:35 What? A random number. What? Because they had two emails in a row? That's... Three. Oh, okay. Three in a row with it require looking up. Well, Sir David is always... he's donating frequently. Yeah, he does a lot. What does he say? In my donation for show 1111, I asked for some F cancer karma from my beloved Uncle Leo. Unfortunately, yesterday he passed away. So I was... So I was that crazy uncle, he was that crazy uncle we all have. Not the one in the attic, but the one that is the character that attracts everyone to him. He was a great father, a fantastic basketball coach, and a school graduate guidance counselor for generations of kids in this small New York town. The number of people he impacted is immeasurable. For me, he was like a second father figure.

1:28:27 I lived with him for a time as a small child, spent summers in their home with my cousins, got my first summer job, had my first surreptitious beers there and so many other memories that I now treasure that much more. He will be eternally and intensely missed by all of our extended Kooky family. Request an extra helping of F-Cancer Karma for all those others fighting their own battles. Thanks and keep up the great work. He's the Baron of Kansas City. Yes, he is. Yeah, the Baron of Kansas City. Onward to Brett Yeo. Brett Yeo and $211.30 from Cantonsville, Maryland.

1:29:26 I'm gladly finally made a payment on my layaway plan for knighthood and this is my first time at least nice for at least an associate executive producer I would like my name to be sir cherry crumb pie because today is pi day and cherry crumb is the finest of all pies there's a pronouncement for you yeah wait till you get your knighting then you can do the pronouncements right first I would like to thank sir Howley for hitting me in the mouth in April 2012. In 2012 and enlighten me to the world with no agenda. I would like to call out Ron A and Clay D. They know who they are as douchebags. Ron is also a man overboard. Man overboard! But Clay will let him know. I'd like to request a cherry crumb pie and ice cold milk.

1:30:23 At the round table and the following jingles, you gonna put those on a list? Yeah, I'm gonna put, I'm putting that, yes, I shall. You want to see Obama A-Team, two to the head, OMG and that is amazing. There's a need for a rescue mission when the world is threatened, the world needs help, it calls on America. And that's the story. That is amazing! You've got karma.

1:30:58 And I should mention that what I pronounce as Canton's ville is Caiton's ville, Maryland. I don't know how they get to that, but okay, Caiton's ville, Maryland. And that's our last associate executive producer. I want to thank all these folks for supporting this show and producing show 1120. And we can't do it without your help and we want to thank you profusely for this good support day, Pi Day. Pi Day, it's always a winner because of the incredible amount of nerds we have. And I love you all. We have the nerds! We've got nerds! That could be a slogan.

1:31:37 It could be a bumper sticker. We'll work on it. It's like the Arby's thing. But these nerds are not just any nerds, they are associate executive and executive producers of episode 1120 of the No Agenda Show. Very important credit and valuable places where they are recognized. Important to us, important to everyone who does the show because you keep us rolling. Thank you very much for your value and we'll be thanking more people later, $50 and above in our second segment. And please consider supporting the work at the following web inter-address. Alright, you know what's going on! You are down on all the 2020 candidates! Propagate! So, um... Two things, a couple things of order. One, I'm using the new Microsoft Dock.

1:32:39 which I acquired in order to remove some of the glitchiness. I haven't heard it yet, of course this is the first test drive, so I have no idea. Let's explain what this is. Yes, I am using a Surface Pro 6 to run the show and I need a number of USB 3 ports. It comes with one. I tried a... actually, let me see which one it was. Using the heaviest powered USB hub I could find that had the highest ratings, an Anker, A-N-K-E-R,

1:33:15 that I bought off of the Amazons, but we still had some glitchiness and was like, well, you plug it in a different order. And I was recommended to get the dock, which I have done. And the dock adds an additional four ports. I was still missing one, so I did slap the MIDI controller and the remote Logitech dongle on a little splitter. But in general all the heavy stuff, which is the drive etc is all running through and I have an external drive, too I'm using a 1 terabyte external drive, so that's also connected to the USB 3.0 whatever But it's working so so far. I have not heard any glitches per se, but we'll see before you continue Yes, where does this plug into it plugs into the? proprietary Microsoft Microsoft port

1:34:09 It's the same place you plug in the power, but now you plug in this, it's a magnetic plug on the side of the surface. Wait, wait, wait. This device is a magnetic plug? Yeah. Geez. Yeah, I'm very sad. I have a big piece of tape saying, careful. It wouldn't take much if you hit that, then yeah. How many connectors are on it? Why can't pull it out right now and look but it's it's probably about it's like 15 pins, maybe well, it's yeah, yeah Hmm that should do the trick. Yeah, so so far so good. They don't have to clear they would use a magnetic It does add five pounds that what yeah, yeah, so it had so it's a break at the computer only weighs two pounds It's heavier than the computer

1:35:02 If five pounds is... Oh, you've got to take a picture of this and send it to me and maybe I'll put it in the newsletter. So it's probably about... I want to see what this thing looks like. It's probably about three pounds and there's also another power thingy. Although I... Is it a straight... Is it a brick or a dongle or what kind of a power... How's the power? Power is a brick. So there's a brick and... I got a brick and a brick. There's two bricks. I got brick... bricks. Yeah, I got two bricks. But it's working. Who cares? I gladly offer up my shoulder to humanity. Because that's where it goes, on my shoulder. Now, some other important news. The Keeper and I signed and received keys yesterday for our new home. Oh, good for you. And I want to thank our producers who have been sending all kinds of new home stuff.

1:35:54 Oh, you've been getting gifts housewarming gifts housewarming gifts. Yeah, there's this I forget the name of it This is whole hook system that doesn't use you don't have to Put any holes in the wall and somehow it sticks to the wall to drywall. Yeah, sure it does Yeah, yeah up to 40 pounds in some some cases. It's quite quite interesting. What do we get the other day? Oh Oh, we got like discounts. Someone, one of our producers works at an online like store. By the way, you're not living in an apartment anymore. You can put holes in the walls. Well, now that it's our home, I'm like, I don't want to put any holes in the walls. I don't give a shit. Yeah, you can put holes in the walls because you can spackle them if you don't like it. Yes, I know. Yes, exactly.

1:36:39 So, you know, it's going to be an interesting couple of months. We're going to be moving into the home in April. We're going to get married in May. Although I have to say we have decided not to have kids because of climate change. So, yes, good idea, because we don't need any because the world are going to be living in is going to be fraught with hurricanes. If if we by any chance had a kid called the Guinness Book of Records. Yeah, well, there's that is just different. Yeah. I like it. I like the proclamation. Yes. Okay, let's see. What do we have? Oh, I got a lot of... Do you have any couches? Well, we have... we're taking our... we have one couch, yeah. You have a couch? We have a couch, yeah. Look, I'm not asking for anything, but if anyone wants to send us a refrigerator and a washer dryer, I'm all in. They have some nice folding chairs at Costco.

1:37:38 We're getting everything from Costco. Are you kidding me? Yeah. Yeah, everything from Costco and then Tina buys it on a Nordstrom credit card because you get six times Nordy points or something like that. Ooh, Nordy points. Nordy points. Hey, don't scoff the Nordy points. We're buying my wedding suit on Nordy points. You're gonna have a wedding suit? Yeah, I'm gonna wear a suit. What did you get married in? Is it a tux? No. Tails? No. Just a suit? Hey, why don't you come? Your invite's in the mail. You can see it for yourself. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm waiting. Brexit! That's where I'd like to go. Brexit. Do you have any clippage to share with us? I got a lot of clippage. I got people talking about Brexit. I was listening to you spending most of my time on LBC.

1:38:29 And London Broadcasting Corporation. I actually clipped probably hours worth of LBC stuff. Leading Britain's Conversation. That's another acronym for him. Yeah, cool. Yeah, LBC. And I had probably clipped about five hours of material, but I only ended up with like four clips or two. Okay. So let's play. Let's see if we have anything here that's a good... What do I have? Well, let's... Let's listen to Nick Ferrari, one of the remainers that's on LBC talking about immigration just while I look for the clip I want. ...percent in February. Then we've got industrial production in Germany announced just literally 15 minutes ago down 1.2 percent in January and industrial output down 0.8 percent. Everybody blames the United Kingdom for falling short. This is a global problem and it's not going away. Thanks for that, David Buick, your core spreads.

1:39:28 Leading Britain's conversation LBC with Nick Ferrari at breakfast What to do with the children the children of the runaway jihadi brides or in some cases? Jihadi brides, it's a different clip. Here we go. Brexit report PBS. This is your backgrounder. Ah That's what I was looking for. The British Parliament has rejected a no-deal Brexit with 16 days left until the deadline for leaving the European Union. The vote came a day after lawmakers had turned down Prime Minister Theresa May's proposed deal for a second time. Afterwards, she addressed the House of Commons with a voice hoarse from strain.

1:40:11 The legal default, the legal default in UK and EU law remains that the UK will leave the EU without a deal unless, unless, unless something else is agreed. The onus is now on every one of us in this house to find out what that is. Parliament plans to vote tomorrow on whether to ask the EU for more time. I like scoffing at politicians like anybody else, but I feel bad man, especially if you're in the UK Parliament and your voice is gone. You didn't try, it's hard. Oh yeah, you're rude. Oh no! Poor lady.

1:40:54 So we have what happened was the parliament rejected it so the parliament rejected because they came with a new deal and here's kind of the kind of the rundown of that. This is Jeffrey Cox, the Attorney General of the UK under the under her administration saying that the new deal is the same as the old deal and that's what caused the problem. Let me make it clear. The legal risk as I set it out in my letter of the 13th of November remains unchanged. As a political judgment, the House should now enter into those arrangements. So what we're seeing, if I understand it, is that people

1:41:39 voted, they said this is what we want, and the politicians are not following, even though they're not legally bound to, or are they? No. Okay. No, this was a gentleman's agreement. You're in England. Gentleman's agreement is as good as a written contract, supposedly. Just don't drop the soap. Because that's what's happening here. And so the politician said, yeah, great England, but no, we're not going to do that even though you voted for it. This isn't, we're not going to do this and because the plan isn't right. Well, the plan was bad. The plan was almost designed not to pass, even though I think there's, is arguable, but no, the plan was good. So you think this is the strategy? It was going to tie up the UK with the EU forever.

1:42:24 And that was the real problem. This isn't that same guy, but this time with Farage discussing some of the aspects of this, Farage on Cox and May. Well, he makes it perfectly clear and he wrote a letter and he signed it off and the last sentence of that letter couldn't have been clearer. The legal risk remains unchanged. that if through no such demonstrable failure of either party but simply because of intractable differences there is no internationally lawful means of exiting the protocols arrangements. I repeat there is no internationally lawful means of exiting the arrangements.

1:43:01 So there's the Prime Minister telling us an amazing breakthrough. We would be able to leave the backstop unilaterally and today her Attorney General shoots it down in flames. This was Mrs May earlier on today begging MPs to vote for her deal. A lot of focus has been put on legal changes and I'll come on to the fact that there are legally binding changes as a result of the discussions since the House's vote on the 29th of January. But if you'll just complete this, the right honourable gentleman is absolutely correct. The danger for those of us who want to deliver, to have faith with the British public and deliver on their vote for Brexit, is that if this vote is not passed tonight, if this deal is not passed, then Brexit could be lost.

1:43:47 So there we are. Back my deal or Brexit could be last. It really is the last throw of the dice from a Prime Minister. I'm sorry she's got a bad throat, but I did notice when she was coughing yesterday she always seems to cough before she says something that is demonstrably untrue. That's her tell. She's has a tell. So what happens now? Well, what's going to happen from what I can tell, I think I have one more clip we can play that I can tell you what I think is going to happen and I'm pretty sure it's exactly what's going to happen. Try LBC on Brexit mess miscellaneous clip. We had Chris Wilkins on earlier, former director of strategy at Number 10. Well, you know how reliable he is. Exactly. Saying that at Number 10 there are plans afoot for a reset come April. Let's look at the domestic agenda. Well, that's all very well if we've actually left by then, but it looks to me as though that's highly unlikely now and that Article 50 will be extended probably for some substantial period of time. That means we have to fight the European elections

1:44:46 And I heard you talking to Joey Jones about that. I mean, that would be catastrophic for our politics, I think, because you will have most of the 17.4 million people feeling utterly betrayed. You will get some very odd characters standing in those elections. This new Brexit party, which Nigel Farage is supporting, I suspect that they will wipe the board if there are candidates in that election. So what's going to happen according to these guys, and it seems logical, is they're going to put an extension instead of leaving the EU at the end of the month, this month. Yeah, but will the EU go with the extension? That's the big question. I think they will if there's promises made under the table to the EU, and the promise will be... A pony.

1:45:34 Well, redo or re-vote. Yes, perfect! The EU will say, you know what? We'll extend if you promise to do another referendum. Yeah. Because we know that that's how it works in the EU. Yeah, you just keep doing the referendums over and over until you finally... Wrong vote. Yes. Huh, well I have a Farage clip, but I don't know if we need to play it. I think by the way, I think there also will be a general election and I think May's gotta be out. She's gotta be out. And I'm looking at Reese Mogg, that guy. I'm looking at Bojo. Bring him in. It's time to get a nut job in there. I think this Reese Mogg character, I think he'll be the next prime minister. Even though it doesn't sound logical, but I think he will be. He's very, very influential.

1:46:25 Well, it's going to be an exciting couple of weeks. Yeah, nothing but fun. By the way, we predicted this whole thing from the get-go. Yes, of course we did. Because we're from the future. Yeah, this is where Pluto TV comes in handy because they've got Sky News. I love Pluto TV. Yeah. You know Viacom bought them, right? Yeah, was it Viacom? Yeah, I think it was Viacom. It's too bad. Yeah, it was. The Cat Channel's still up. It's still there. They actually have a secondary Cat Channel if you dig around. I haven't seen any reporting except, you know, well, a blurb in the New York Times about the air war on Somalia.

1:47:02 Besides this I think I think this is one of the West Clark seven is that one of the West Clark seven countries Somalia I thought it was Sudan Oh Sudan right maybe Somalia was in there hmm. Well. Yeah, we'll play the clip I'll look it up. Okay. Let me see West Clark. I need the West seven Here we go seven countries in five years starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and finish Somalia. There he is. So Somalia is necessary and Sudan but is this the neocons just go I mean no one's even talking about this

1:47:45 They've managed to keep it out of the news because it doesn't necessary. Well, this is Al Shabab, you know, this is Shabab, Shabab, Shabab, Shalalalalala, Shabab. Hold on, we have that, we have that. Hold on. Need to play it. Once in a lifetime chance. Bonus everybody. Secret Agent Paul bonus. Yes, it's Al Shabab who were fighting, air quotes. Alright, I don't know and I don't know anything other than we've killing a lot of people in a clip. No No, I said there's no clip. All I have is a New York Times article. Huh? And I govern it then well, no, but why especially To me it seems important if this is one of the West Clark seven, it's a big deal So maybe we have a producer over there Maybe someone can tell us but in the last four months of 2018 the death toll with the airstrike drone strikes I presume

1:48:44 of suspected Shabab fighters, is record high in the past three years. 326 people in 47 attacks that were disclosed. Who knows what else is going on? Yeah, yeah. Come on! I want to... This is dumb! No, the media is letting us down. Yeah, well, hello. No, they're too busy about the 737M. Okay, let's talk about this then. Might as well. Okay, I got three. First let me preface no matter what happened This is the Airbus versus Boeing war it is in full effect This is why you saw countries grounding European the minute the UK Grounded it that was a full-on full frontal attack on Boeing By the countries that have a huge interest in airbus eating course it did and they loved but remember

1:49:41 that Airbus had very, very poor sales in the recent pitch round or whatever the upfront is. And Lion Air, that's the Indonesian craft, the 737 MAX that crashed, they have already switched their $22 billion Boeing order to Airbus. So this and that, trust me, we've discussed this in the past, Any commercial company is not beyond killing a couple hundred people for 22 billion dollars. Yeah, or more. Or more. Your wife, your life is worthless. You can get, people will kill you for 500 euros in Amsterdam. So, you know, you think that an investor or a company won't kill off some people? And I have other theories, but let's hear what you got. Well, I want to hear those theories. Let's play the clip.

1:50:35 Your clip? My clip? Well, I got three clips. I have a couple of clips. These are all from PBS. They're pretty good. Well, let me start with the backgrounder. My personal feeling is until we have the black box, we can't make any assumptions. There does appear to be new data that I have not seen, but the president apparently saw and the FAA administrator that said, OK, this looks like a repeat of the Lion Air issue. It's discussed in this. Well, I have a 40 seconder here. Well, there is evidence collected at the ground at the site of the impact of the crash. And there's also newly enhanced satellite imagery of the Ethiopian Airlines flight track in the sky, as well as an analysis of the aircraft's configuration just after it took off. And that's what really drove this decision to ground the planes in the U.S. from the FAA's perspective. Here again is FAA Administrator Dan Elwell talking on a conference call with reporters.

1:51:27 Both new pieces of information were added fidelity, missing pieces that we did not have prior to today, that aligned the track from Ethiopian Airlines track to Lion Air, closer than anything we had up until today. That seems like a reason for grounding to me. Yeah, well it's a new system which is discussed even more in detail on these clips, so let's play these three. Boeing 737 Max passenger jetliner is grounded across much of the globe tonight, including the United States. The Federal Aviation Administration took that step for the U.S. today, after dozens of other nations had already done so. It followed Sunday's deadly crash of a 737 MAX in Ethiopia. John Yang begins our coverage. President Trump made the announcement himself. Boeing is an incredible company. They are working very, very hard right now. And hopefully they will very quickly come up with the answer.

1:52:26 But until they do, the planes are grounded. As the president spoke, more than two dozen of the planes were in flight over the United States. Once they landed, they are on the ground until further notice. As recently as last night, the FAA rejected calls to ground the jet after two fatal crashes in five months. The most recent was Sunday when an Ethiopian Airlines plane plunged to the ground, killing 157 people. Today, acting FAA Administrator Daniel Elwell said the agency reversed course after new data indicated similarities between Sunday's crash and October's crash of a Lion Air 737 Max in Indonesia.

1:53:08 that killed 189 people. The evidence found on the ground made it even more likely that the flight path was very close to Lion Air. The FAA had been virtually alone in not grounding the plane. That isolation grew this morning when Canadian Transport Minister Mark Garneau acted. All I can say is that based on the new information that we got this morning, that was enough to cause us to make this decision. The Americans will do their own thing. Today Boeing said it continues to have full confidence in the plane's safety but supported the FAA's action. And we need to point out that these companies, both Boeing and Airbus,

1:53:50 The amount of economic importance cannot be underplayed. I mean, there's so many companies and countries that are involved in this particular sector that this is very, very important. Well, not to mention that the Dow Jones, as we talked about on the DH Unplugged show, is pretty much dependent on Boeing. Yeah. Yeah. So it doesn't help anybody. No, no. I just want to point out. That it is also very positive. There was no good outcome when everyone everyone when everyone started shutting down grounding the plans around the world No good outcome for Boeing. It's certainly not to say we're gonna keep flying the best outcome could be and It's it's a three hundred and you know seventy four bucks now. I mean it's too big for anyone like us to play in but I

1:54:41 When it when and if it turns out that this is something else the shits gonna skyrocket like crazy Maybe you don't know no I mean of course I don't know she made she could cost him a lot of money to fix the whatever it could also it could also cry I mean you see that since 2017 Boeing has just the stock has exploded and Yeah, it was a good investment then. What happened? Why did it explode back in 17? I have no idea. I mean if you look, yeah, it's 20, is it around 2017, around, yeah, around November of 2016, then it just goes from under, like what is it, $154 up to, well the peak was over $400. Yeah, let's play clip two. So hello Miles, tell us first of all, what is this new information that came out overnight?

1:55:31 Well, Judy, it's interesting. It's a direct outgrowth of the loss of MH370 five years ago, the 777 that left from Kuala Lumpur and was lost and remains lost. There was a mandate to the airline industry to come up with better tracking capabilities. A company called Aerion in conjunction with Flight Tracker developed some of this capability and has brought it to market. And this gave the FAA and anybody who could look at this data a much more granular look at what happened to that aircraft after it left, after it departed. And that gave them, as they put it, the fidelity, presumably that matched up pretty closely to what we saw in October with the Lion Air crash.

1:56:14 and that left them with this decision. So you're talking about a satellite image of what happened to the plane between the time that it took off and it crashed? Yes, a more detailed image that gave them much more specificity about what that aircraft was doing in its short flight. Now, the FAA official, Miles, also cited evidence on the ground. Do we know what that's a reference to? They were not specific on it. Maybe there was something in the wreckage which might have caused them to pause. The nature of the crash, the fact that it apparently came in almost exactly perpendicular to ground, nose, you know, going fast and nose down. Which this is very interesting to me.

1:56:56 The crash site, I mean it looks like US Flight 93, which I'm pretty sure was blown out of the sky. I mean, there's, it's nothing. It's obliterated. Little pieces of hull here and there. I mean, we're only seeing what we're being shown. But if this was a pitch-up angle of attack issue, not necessarily would the plane come down nose first. That's just I find that peculiar. That's I'd like to know what this stuff on the ground is about because it takes a little while to figure out you know wreckage, but okay, it's PBS. We've got to trust him well Let's go with the third thing which brings up an issue. Which is the one I always Gets to me and yeah, you want you want to play it?

1:57:42 Yeah, there was no grounding at that time. You know, it occurs to me that if a piece of hardware, a wing or an engine had fallen off, they would have grounded it immediately. But the software was broken and they said, well, we'll fix it by April. So perhaps it became clear to them that they weren't recognizing the seriousness of this software problem. And there was also a question tied into that about whether the U.S. government shutdown, which lasted over a month. might have in some way contributed to the delay in the software fix. The FAA was denying that today though. They do deny that. It's hard to know again what was going on inside the FAA at that time, but the fact that they identified a fleet-wide problem, albeit software, a problem that caused the deaths of people and the FAA said, well let the planes fly, we'll fix them in April, is something that I think ultimately became difficult for the FAA and for Boeing to explain.

1:58:36 No, well, okay. This is, here's a couple of people have no idea about how the aviation industry works, but I like it. I read this too. Um, oh, it's clear to the shutdown. The FAA didn't have time to tell everybody. Just bring Trump into it. This is what Judy just did because she knows that the FAA already says, so no, it's got nothing to do with it. And he had to tell her again. She knew that before she asked that question, she had to, she had to get her own little conspiracy theories out there, which are good. I like it. It's not at all how these things work. There are other possibilities here. First, there is a thing called the Boeing Uninterruptible Autopilot, which has been installed on certain types of aircraft. Now we're talking a large number of 737s, these Max's that were on order, like between 5 and 10,000, huge. This is the big money maker for them.

1:59:32 This and if you want to look up the Boeing uninterruptible power supply and how that ties into the elites look up the patent for QRS-11. You said uninterrupted piloting system power supply. Oh, I'm sorry autopilot uninterruptible autopilot Boeing uninterruptible autopilot and this allows the aircraft to be piloted from the ground Uninterruptible by anyone on board and this was installed on aircraft. I don't know which ones After 9-11 it was the whole idea now, of course, you can reverse that and you can use it to do other things. You Let's just talk one more time about where some Boeing 737s actually come from.

2:00:24 The Air China bound jet was finished at the factory although in reality it bears a made in America label having been flown over from Seattle. Roughly one in four planes that Boeing builds is heading for China whose airlines are the world's leading buyers of the 737. So China who also makes a knockoff 737 They're finishing up a lot of the work. All of the Boeing aircraft are outsourced and there's all, I think there's huge supply chain issues and I go back... This was proven true with the 787. And I go back to my original statement that a country who has problems with us anyway, and this does lead back to it being Trump's fault, luckily, so people can use it on MSNBC, is, you know, let's kill some fuckers and let's show these people what we're made of.

2:01:12 I do not put it past them. But if you really want to go out there, no one's talking about the people. These people were from Africa. So if we want to know what Africa thinks of it, we need to go to Africa Today with Dr. Mumbi! Hello and welcome to Africa Watch on the Dr. Mumbi Show. This is a special edition. I'm reporting live from London and it's all about what happened a few days ago with the Ethiopian Airlines crash. What happened was that, you know, the Ethiopian Airlines

2:01:52 plane crashed on Sunday morning. It was only four months old. I know you guys have probably heard all this information before, but it's very important that we understand it. A brand new aircraft doesn't just fall from the sky. And it's a Boeing 737. It's the same one as the Indonesian flight that crashed in October of 2018. 149 passengers were said to be on board, eight crew. When it first happened, initially, they said that 32, 33 nations were involved and that the accident had happened at 1133, you know, all these code, code, code, code, code. And then later they said... I had no idea that they were all into 33 codes in Africa as well. This is an eye opener. 1133. 1133, yeah. ...35 nations and...

2:02:44 and then they found the crash site but you know a lot of people have been questioning the entire scenario and asking themselves what really happened. A plane doesn't just fall from the sky and there's so many strange things On the 8th of March, the United States released a statement on their Facebook page and they released a security alert. And they were talking about how there's a particular, you can see the alert right there, there's a particular community that was supposed to write, I think it's the Omoria community, they were supposed to have demonstrations in the capital city. So they were warning their citizens about the demonstrations in the capital city, but

2:03:27 They also happen to mention that no American citizens should fly in or out of Bali Airport on Sunday, 10th of March. And so a lot of people asking, did they know that this was coming? Because it's very strange how the US State Department is almost like the angel of death. They'll come and they'll say, they'll warn their citizens. And then the next thing we know, there'll be an attack. I like this a lot and I went back and I looked at the State Department security alerts and sure enough US Embassy personnel are advised to avoid Mescal Square and limit movement around Addis Ababa. On Sunday March 10th US government travelers have been advised not to arrive or depart Bole International Airport. On Sunday March 10th the US Embassy personnel are also temporarily prohibited from traveling to Oromia. Just an African perspective.

2:04:25 Well, that's interesting. Mm-hmm. And for Trump tweeted some interesting things, which I'm in partial agreement. It's like, you know, hey, do you want all this computer stuff flying you around? Do you want some train pilots flying you around? And I mean, I'm okay with augmented, but you know, that's not the plan. The next gen is to, you know, of course everyone wants to get the pilots out there, the stupid ones. Yeah, sure, it's just like the Tesla. Who needs drivers? You know, the Tesla crashes fine on its own. But for Trump to he was really slamming Boeing and even talking about how he thinks the 737 is a piece of shit. Now he actually would know a little bit about it and to be honest, the 737 that the max is not the same aircraft. It is it is markedly different in its wing performance and its engine location so it is a little bit different which is what the computer code is supposed or supposed to

2:05:27 Compensate for, compensate. Now we don't know exactly what the updates are but honestly in my mind Boeing, Airbus, China, you know I think that there's some trickery at play because ultimately it's just brown people gives a shit. You know like that's and you know whenever a plane crashes it's not always that they give you all the nationalities right off the bat. This report immediately this many from this country this many from this country as if that was somehow meant to show Some importance. I don't know it's not typical It's like this many people died most of them Africans and then later when we might get a manifest But it came right away the manifest who's well, okay? Let's look at it from a some sort of a quasi conspiratorial hello perspective mm-hmm what was the point of it to

2:06:23 severely impact Boeing, their operations and their sales. Why would our State Department be part of this? Treason? I don't know. Well, I didn't want to make that jump. I don't know. That's just an interesting point. The State Department thing is annoying. Specifically talking about flying in or out of that airport. So maybe they knew the Chinese were up to something. Maybe it's Al Shabaab again. I don't know. But having that... Well, they may have been tipped off by a different intelligence service from another country that knew about this. Yeah, yeah, that's possible. And so they put this thing out and it may have gone like this, knowing bureaucrats. What? You think? I don't know, but we'll put an alert out just in case, just to cover our ass. Yeah. That's a possibility. Yeah. But it would be perfectly

2:07:28 I mean what a great way to do it by replicating a previous crash that was based on some design issue. Let's call it that. Perfect way, perfect way to do it. You could show that it was a replication. It's also possible the State Department was set up. It could also be, yeah. To put that thing out. Put that in there, yep. To add suspicion. But I think Bottom line, I think I know what they'll say. It's a glitch. They better not say it's a glitch. Okay, we'll see. I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. And we do have some people to thank for show 1120, starting with Sir Ever of the Watt.

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2:20:32 There was a hearing. Wells Fargo had his guy. Let me guess, it's an AOC clip. And so here we have just part of her idiot and here she has to the Wells Fargo I'm a recommend this to anybody who ever has to do a testimony. She's asking questions Ask her a question that forces her to go off script and we get to hear gems like this So let's focus on the Dakota access pipeline as should Wells Fargo be held responsible for the damages incurred by climate change due to the financing of fossil fuels and and these projects

2:21:08 I don't know how you'd calculate that, Congresswoman. Say from spills or when we have to reinvest in infrastructure, building seawalls from the erosion of infrastructure or cleanups, wildfires, etc.? Related to that pipeline? I'm not aware that there's been any of what you described that's occurred related to that pipeline. How about the cleanups from the leaks of the Dakota Access Pipeline? I'm not aware of the leaks associated with the Dakota Access Pipeline that you're describing. So hypothetically, if there was a leak from the Dakota Access Pipeline, why shouldn't Wells Fargo pay for the cleanup of it since it paid for the construction of the pipeline itself? Because we don't operate the pipeline. We provide financing to the company that's operating the pipeline.

2:21:54 pipeline. Our responsibility is to ensure that at the time that we make that loan, that that customer, and we have a group of people in Wells Fargo, including an environmental oversight group headed by one of my colleagues who used to be at the EPA. So one question, why did Wells Fargo finance this pipeline when it was widely seen to be environmentally unstable? Again, the reason that we were one of the 17 or 19 banks that financed that is because our team reviewed the environmental impact and we concluded that it was it was a risk that we were willing to take. It's so... You know, it's great. It's humorous. Well, it's humorous to me that after all the bitching and moaning when I started playing AOC clips now you're the one bringing them.

2:22:46 I'm bringing him baby. You are bringing it. Now, here's what I'm starting to appreciate about her. She doesn't know how dumb she is. Oh, she is boort voor de kop. And so she... what? Boort voor de kop. We've talked about this. Boort voor de kop. It's a Dutch saying. It's like you have a big wooden plank in front of your head and you just plow through life like that. Oh, okay. Yeah, well that's her. Because if she'd just stick to the script, which I'm sure they're gonna lecture her about when she gets back to the office. It would be fine. You know, she'd go from question to question. Center has called her. It's not as though somebody... But she thinks she can...

2:23:31 She just doesn't know what she's talking about. I do have the ISO of this part of this little thing about the about building the the retaining walls for the Floods of oil. I don't even know what she was talking about. This is your ISO. Yeah building sea walls from the erosion of From the erosion of infrastructure or cleanups wildfires, etc. Wait a minute Wait a minute I want to hear that again. Let me see what she said. Building sea walls from the erosion of... from the erosion of infrastructure or clean up wildfires etc. You know she was at South by, South by Southwest which is on right now as we speak. It's hipster heaven.

2:24:19 And I started watching it because I didn't get the clip until this morning and I will have something for you on Sunday. A topper! Oh yeah, it's an hour of her talking like that kind of. Just, you know, like automating inequality. I mean these types of great phrases. So there's stuff to be... She's doing what a lot of people are very good at and I think she's pretty good fake it till you make it And she's she can just she can just turn it on and you know She's got some things that her team has put into her head and some of the that comes out in it in a good way and then she you know, she ad-libs a lot and but the Bottom line is people eat it up. They love it. They're idiots. Yeah, okay, maybe but people she's look at

2:25:08 Look at the frame, look at the brain. It's... I see why she's appealing to people, especially if you're talking to this younger generation and reinforcing the fear of the earth killing you. And... Oh, by the way, the one thing I can't stand from her is how she says, and... and... and... and... and... Do you have any more AOC clips we'll find her saying? No, I just have that's the only one I got. Alright. But I do have some other probably good crazy clips. Wait, let me bring the real humor. I think you talked about this. I can't remember.

2:25:50 But it's popped up on the radar again. Well, here it is. Goat theft is becoming a growing crime in the Central Valley. Most of the thefts happening in Easton and going... The criminal investigation ratcheted up after Christy Piquet reported 11 goats stolen last Thursday. She then contacted the media to bring attention to the thefts. Originally, it wasn't a high priority until I think the news outlets started asking them questions like, what are you doing to help all these families find their animals? All told, more than 60 goats have vanished from farms in the county in the last two months. Police estimate the total value of those animals at $27,000. And now they're taking this crime wave seriously.

2:26:31 At the beginning of this week, we really threw a lot of resources at this. That is Fresno County Sheriff's Department spokesman Tony Botti. Numerous detectives on that team are treating this as a top priority right now. They've scoured the area for surveillance video, which has been few and far between. We just have really come up dry on leads. Hey Pete, bring up that ring doorbell camera over there. Let's see, can you see any goats? Bonnie says he can't recall such a widespread goat related crime wave as this one. What it tells us is that there's a market for goats right now. It's being taken are the males. Some of these females are even pregnant, so they're getting a two for one. They steal these goats.

2:27:16 And what we know is that females are sought after for both milk and meat purposes. I don't care what you say, but it is undeniable the No Agenda show is ahead of the crowd. We have known about the market for goats for a long time. Goat power has been in our entire lexicon for quite some time. One of our producers sent me a pin, I don't have his note, a goat pin that said goat something. Apparently it comes from a Satanist operation. Well here's what, so my first thought, and this is Fresno, I don't know anything about Fresno. My first thought was, is it Ramadan? So no, because that doesn't happen until, it's not always consistent, but around April.

2:28:04 So, okay, maybe there's some people getting... because I remember Tony, the driver in San Francisco who had a goat in the back of his car. I do not remember this. He was a... this was before Uber and he had a cab. Yeah, and he would tell me stuff and he would talk. Yeah, we talked about it. You had to sit back there with the goat? No, it was in the trunk. It was in the trunk. He had a goat in the trunk? Yes, he had a dead goat in the trunk. Oh, a dead goat. Okay. The goat... no, it was taking it off to his cousin to have it prepared. But as I'm looking around for Fresno and Ramadan, did you know there's about 15,000 Syrian refugees who've been placed in Fresno? No, I did not know that. Yes. That's a lot of people. And they had, some have been made aware of the fact that you are no, in fact, not allowed to roast a goat in your backyard. That is apparently a violation of some environmental and health rules in Fresno.

2:29:06 But that doesn't come up in the report and it's the first thing I thought of like well who wants goats except for goat yoga It's their culture. They love goats They do a delicious. Yeah. Well, it depends on how it's prepared. I had a goat. Yes I have we've been through this and I've had a good goat and I've had bad goat but anyways, I think it's uh I think it's maybe in preparation. The Syrians in Fresno. I'm looking at the Syrians. The 15,000 Syrians in Fresno would make some sense have been stealing goats and eating them by barbecuing them in the backyard. Problems. Why else would you have some sort of a law against them? Mystery solved. Yeah, I think you nailed it. Only on no agenda do we come up with this sort of thing. People need to know these things, but I don't know if you want to bring it up on a date.

2:29:57 I now again my recommendation is I think was a crying shame that Hillary lost don't you crying what you get crying shame I'll tell you crying shame so um you know that no agenda social no no agenda social calm it's our instance of Macedon you can get invited anyone the troll room should have an invite anyone who has an account can create an invite just not completely open so I'm just wandering we get an invite And that has often been abbreviated as NAS. It's what people, hey, well over at, and you know, it's a talk about in the troll room if someone see him. Whenever they refer to no agenda. Network attacks as attached storage, which is what it is. Well, I think that there may have been, some people may be aware of this, but it was brought to my attention. The 1990 film, 1995 film Johnny Mnemonic with Keanu Reeves. Oh.

2:30:56 You know the Keanu Reeves movie worst movie ever. No, I don't think it's the worst movie ever And I just wanted to say that and I don't think it's that I actually I watched the whole movie again Okay, I watched it just the other day because it was brought to my attention That there is a disease, you know, the premise of the movie is people are ill half the world is sick from this nerve attenuation syndrome NAS, nerve attenuation syndrome. And Keanu has a different role in this, but he winds up helping release the cure, which is of course computer code, mnemonic computer code, and saves the world. So you don't have to watch the movie anymore, but interesting, this is 1995, this is

2:31:44 This is when the internet was just, you know, we were putting Reebok online for the first time in 1995, you know, Anheuser-Busch, Budweiser.com, around that time, 95, 96. So the internet was still dial up, you know, maybe ISDN was just about to come into play, but this is way before its time. William Gibson story, and here is, there's a couple of good actors in this besides, is it Ice-T or Ice Cube? One of them. Somebody in the ICE family. And Henry Rollins is the doctor who can at least treat if not cure the nerve attenuation syndrome and he's going to explain what it is. Look I gotta run. Shut up. Give me that muscle relaxant over there. The red one.

2:32:36 It's an AS, right? Yeah, the black shape. Like half the people on the planet. Let me tell you something so you get this straight. It's not my work that got her this way. My work is clean. Besides, you don't get this shit from amp jobs. That's just a myth. So what does cause it? What causes it? The world causes it. This causes it. This causes it. This causes it! Information overload! All the electronics around you poisoning the airwaves! Technological fucking civilization! But we still have all this shit, because we can't live without it. Let me do my work. And I heard that, I'm like, what? Acting? Well, besides fabulous acting, I thought,

2:33:18 That's exactly where we are now. We have information overload, the airwaves are polluted with signals, just all kinds of EMF pollution. And and you know with the over socialization of the networks, you know they so what people have with NAS is they get the shakes called the black shakes and you know, then of course, you know all the other things that we see happening with people today and Right after I saw this movie. I watched it on my computer through Amazon and I got the following ad.

2:34:08 I didn't say a word. During the course of their disease, around 50% of people with Parkinson's may experience hallucinations or delusions. This is new to me. And Parkinson's is a horrible, horrible disease and it ends up bad every single time. But it's new that they're talking about delusions. It's funny you say that because I know one, two, three, probably four people with Parkinson's and maybe five, and I've never heard this from them, or, and I've never heard this until very recently. The only research I was able to find in a short amount of time was that the delusions come from medication that is treating Parkinson's, but when I hear this ad, it's like, you know, it's like, oh, this might be the perfect medication to give someone who has delusions, Mr. Curry.

2:35:06 You have the shakes, you've got delusions, you're a vivid imagination. I don't know, just listen to the whole thing. I knew about the tremors, but when I started seeing things, I didn't know what was happening. So I kept it in. He started believing things that weren't true. I knew something was wrong, but I didn't say a word. During the course of their disease, around 50% of people with Parkinson's may experience hallucinations or delusions. But now, doctors are prescribing Nuplazid, the only FDA-approved medicine proven to significantly reduce hallucinations and delusions related to Parkinson's. Don't take Nuplazid if you are allergic to its ingredients.

2:35:46 Nuplazid can increase the risk of death in elderly people with dementia-related psychosis and is not for treating symptoms unrelated to Parkinson's disease. Nuplazid can cause changes in heart rhythm and should not be taken if you have certain abnormal heart rhythms or take other drugs that are known to cause changes in heart rhythm. Tell your doctor about any changes in medicines you're taking. The most common side effects are swelling of the arms and legs and confusion. We spoke up and it made all the difference. Ask your Parkinson's specialist about Nuplazid. You know, not, you never treat, how often do you hear someone say it's not meant to treat anything else? In fact, that's the number one use of most medications, off-label use of it. I just found it coincidental that I got this right after I read about this thing. Yeah, well let's look into this stuff for a second and look into why do you think you got this because it can't be just because you watched that movie.

2:36:41 Have you been buying weird books or did you buy some same product over and over again because they maybe think you have the shakes and you can't hit the button once, you have to hit it ten times? I don't know. What do you think it caused you to get this ad? You don't have Parkinson's. How about this very show where I talk about delusional things that some people may see as delusional? Amazon doesn't track the show. You don't know what Amazon does or doesn't track. Well, you do use AWS for a lot of your things. Mm-hmm, show notes. I don't think Amazon delves into that to be honest about it. I mean, it's funny. It's a funny idea, but they don't have time for that kind of crap. Anyway, I'd love to know from if we have, I'm sure someone out there has a family member with Parkinson's.

2:37:26 And delusion, if you look at the definition, that really means you're conspiratorially paranoid. They're out to get me. You know, delusional is not just something, not an illusion, it's delusion. Anyway, just to wrap up the Johnny Mnemonic. As I'm watching it, check out, again, 1995. Check this out. He's compiling a whole bunch of computer parts. The year is 2021 when this supposedly takes place. Yeah, which is even better. We do it right around that time. And he's pulling together computer parts.

2:38:05 I need a Sino Logic 60. Sogo 7 Data Gloves. A GPL Stealth Module. One Burdine Intelligent Translator. A Thompson iPhone. A Thompson iPhone. Hello! The iPhone didn't come out until 2005? 2007 to be exact. Yeah, 2007. Hmm, there's something there's could be a public domain issue here with the name. Well, there was a lawsuit between I think it might have been Samsung bought there was a company that had a video phone called the iPhone. Yeah, I really remember. Yeah, I think Sam and that they settled that in to probably around 2000 iPhone, but I've never heard the Thompson iPhone. Well, just the fact looking for right there. He said an iPhone.

2:39:00 He said Thompson. Was there a Thompson iPhone? No, there's none of that crap he mentioned there was ever any of that. But anyways, just somebody's well, that's just a fun little throwaway thing. I think it would be Who's the writer again? Gibson. Gibson. I think of Steve Jobs would be a Gibson reader. Totally. May have stolen it from Gibson. I have one clip I need to play. All right. This is... it's just because I don't even know what to make of it. There's a full interview that I will have maybe more clips from for Sunday. This is Kara Schwisher. Schwisher. On Decode Recode HoCode. And she has on the president of YouTube, Susan Wojcicki, I believe her name is, or the CEO of YouTube.

2:39:50 And Kara Swisher just pulls out this whole anti-Ben Shapiro rant that I wanted, I needed to share it. My son, who's 13 years old, started watching Ben Shapiro videos. And he's like the gateway drug to the next group. And then it goes right to Jordan Peterson, then it goes down and in three clicks he was at neo-Nazi stuff. I mean, just stop right there. What? She feels that Ben Shapiro is a gateway drug to Peterson and three clicks and then you're neo-nazi. That's pretty severe for her to say. That's unconscionable. And by the way, the kid is probably looking at it because you're a horrible mother and he needs some advice from a man who's saying be a man, which is exactly what Jordan Peterson does.

2:40:44 Oh, that's why she hates Jordan Peele. That's what I'm thinking. Well, let's continue here. It was like astonishing and then I had to listen to it at dinner and I was sort of like I'm gonna kill Susan Wojcicki first. Okay, well, there I am. But it was sort of like, I was sort of like, is there anything like, but it is, I'm sort of like, and then I've got like this kid who's like, well Ben Shapiro's sort of smart. I'm like, no he's not, no he's not, not even slightly. He's clever, but he's an idiot. Anyway, it's just like it's exhausting, but it has like a huge effect on them. Do you feel like the people on a bigger thing and it's not your total responsibility, Susan, but it's do you feel like the people still have a sense of this of the impact they have and are capable of dealing with it? Or will regulatory measures just have to come into place? By the way, I always think someone who says like 80 times in a sentence is very intelligent.

2:41:37 Because it's already starting in Europe, it's starting in California here with privacy bills. Do you feel like you're all able to do that? We are gonna make we have already made a huge difference and we will continue That will have a big impact and how our platforms work. So getting your son Lost no, we can we can we can work on your son here I have a son too and I get some of these discussions also at the dinner table. I mean, so it's a I think what you're describing is, and the way we think about it too, look there's a set of content that has to meet the community guidelines. Ben Shapiro's going to meet the community guidelines. So I don't think you're suggesting that we remove him from the platform, are you? I would but I can't. No, no. Okay, so 15 more seconds. This is really important because you're hearing right now how the elites talk about other people who have different opinions

2:42:33 and how they actually take them down. So it's not about, you know, free speech is one thing, but no, we have a different way of taking them down. I would, but I can't. No, no. Okay. But you know what? But no, you know, last time I saw you, I was like, get Alex Jones off that platform. And you're like, well, the community guidelines, and then you got him off. No, he's not on the platform. I know. So I was right. But that's just, that's enough. It was the terms of service, actually. It's the terms of service. He broke the terms of service. He broke our terms of service, yes. There you go. You break the terms of service, the community guidelines, and we can change those whenever we want. We can interpret them however we want. 90% of terms of service always say you're agreeing to the fact that we can change the terms of service on the fly.

2:43:19 Whenever we feel like that's right, and that's how they deplatform you and I would say Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson are on their way out. This is mean the Oracle the Oracle that is Swisher Predicted Alex Jones and done. Yes done I like the way she says Ben Shapiro's an idiot, which is what she said. But I don't believe Ben Shapiro was sucked in by that meme where the kid with the mega hat was standing in front of that Indian guy. No, no, I don't think only an idiot would be sucked in by that, John. Kara Swisher, I believe, is named in the lawsuit that this kid's bringing because she was all in on that. Exactly. We're going to have to leave it at that because time flew. Who knew time flew?

2:44:12 And we have... let me see, we've got... End of show mixers from Lee O. Lapjuk, Brian Longenecker and Tom Starkweather. Three really good ones. Very excited about that. And we will return for another full-blown deconstruction of your global media. Which means we need your help, your participation, we need information. Especially if you're in Somalia. Any other place we can get it from, we'd love to hear from you. And please continue to support our value for value network by going to Dvorak.org slash NA. Coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state FEMA region number six on the governmental maps in the 509 Cluedio. While I'm still here, in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where I'm gonna go take some lessons in cricket.

2:45:06 I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Sunday right here on No Agenda. Remember us at dvorak.org slash NA. Until then, adios, mofos, and such. Even air is racist now. The air that we breathe isn't equal. White privilege extends to breathing air. White people, according to USA Today, get to breathe cleaner air than blacks and Hispanics. This is fascinating. I can't wait to find out more. Blacks and Hispanics disproportionately breathe air that's been polluted by non-Hispanic whites, according to a study.

2:45:52 The air that Americans breathe isn't equal. This is an unfortunate turn of events for all of humanity. I'm sure the science behind that is just fail-proof. Right now, the debate about whether or not climate change is racist. Whether, whether or not. Sorry, it's too funny. What is it? Do white people fart more? Is that what it is? I breathe white air. I don't know if black and hispanic people have the option of breathing white air or not, but if you do, you know, you should certainly choose white air because it's clean. Racist. Racist.

2:46:37 I apologize for the racist air that I breathe. I'm crying about it because it's crazy! Speaking as a white male, I'm directly responsible for all the evils in the world. I am the problem. I've made the air itself racist. Who are you? Who are some lies in the ways of science? Shut up already! It's science! In this case, what is alleged is just pure greed and selfishness. Notice similarities between Sunday's Ethiopian crash that happened and the one that happened in Indonesia. The planes that are in the air will be grounded.

2:47:14 If they're the 737 Max, you're grounded. President Maduro is blaming the United States without proof accusing US hackers of sabotaging their electrical grid, crippling the nation and leading to chaos. You're grounded. It's curious because the president seems to get along just swimmingly with lots of other brutal dictators around the world. And you do not have the kind of customer satisfaction that you're alluding to. I mean everything leaves a trail nowadays. This is the worst scandal involving elite universities in the history of the United States. Maybe they work hard but someone else just paid their way to get into university. I think that's a bit unfair to those who didn't get it.

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