Episode 112 · Sunday, 12 July 2009

The Doomsday Box

A high-frequency trading heist at Goldman Sachs exposes the fragility of global markets as world leaders push for centralized currency and aggressive new environmental regulations.

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About this episode

Sergei Alenikoff faces federal charges following his arrest at Newark Liberty International Airport for the alleged theft of secret high-frequency trading code from Goldman Sachs. This proprietary software, nicknamed the Doomsday Box, enables rapid-fire market transactions that critics argue create a dangerous illusion of liquidity. The incident highlights growing concerns regarding the intersection of Wall Street financial systems and international intelligence networks, including alleged links between trading platforms and the Israeli Security Agency.

In London, the News of the World phone-tapping scandal intensifies as Andy Coulson, communications director for David Cameron, faces scrutiny over his tenure at the Rupert Murdoch-owned publication. Domestically, EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson defends the administration's cap and trade policies before a Senate committee despite a leaked White House memo warning of severe economic damage to small businesses. Meanwhile, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev utilized the G8 summit in Italy to unveil a prototype coin for a united future world currency, bearing a motto strikingly similar to European Union branding.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak navigate technical hurdles from Amsterdam to the Pacific Northwest, critiquing the rollout of Dutch WiMAX services and the absurdity of Red Cross survival kits. The duo examines the high-cost redesign of Recovery.gov by Smartronics and the curious lack of economists on the federal Recovery Board. From Michael Jackson murder theories to the detection of Ebola Reston in Philippine livestock, the report captures a world caught between media distraction and systemic surveillance.


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CHAPTER 01 / 26 Discussion

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak, No Agenda 112

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the July 12, 2009, edition of No Agenda from Amsterdam and the Pacific Northwest. Curry describes technical difficulties with his UPC cable internet service in Holland, criticizing the company's customer support and business model.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· no agenda· amsterdam· gitmo nation· wimax· upc

00:01 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's July 12th, 2009, time for your Gitmo Nation audio publication 112. This is no agenda. Hey everybody, coming to you from an undisclosed 17th century canal house location, it is the Crackpot Command Center on remote. Coming to you via WiMAX. I'm Adam Curry. Wow, I'm here in the Pacific Norwest. Gitmo Nation, Pacific Northwest, John C. Dvorak. Yeah man, the bandwidth gods have not been favorable this past week for me. The cable went out here on Thursday and it's been out ever since. Of course, talking to customer support is a big joke. Do they talk? Are they in India?

00:59 No, they're in Holland, but they might as well be in India because literally they go through this list and say they've hired India. I was like, is the coax plugged in? Look, dipshit. Could you please put me through to an engineer who could actually like, you know, check? No. No, no, no, we can't do that. But, you know, we'll set up an appointment for you. Would you like Monday? It's fucking Thursday! No, Monday between 8 and 12 or... 8 and 1 or 12 and 6. Well, give me between 8 and 1. I'm sorry, that's not available. Well, then give me between 12 and 6! And, uh... And it's so sad. I said, well, you know, can't you get, it's like, you know, I'm sure that more of the block is down. I mean, this just went out, you know, there's obviously a problem at the head end somewhere. He said, well, then you should go to your neighbors and ask them to call and complain too because the more complaints we get, the quicker that someone will come out and check. I'm like, okay, I'm just... What kind of a business plan is that? It's UPC.

CHAPTER 02 / 26 Discussion

WiMAX Mobile Internet Service in Amsterdam

A new WiMAX service in Amsterdam allows users to purchase a USB stick modem for 90 euros and sign up for prepaid high-speed internet. The service offers five megabits down and one megabit up for approximately $10 per week, providing a reliable alternative to hotel Wi-Fi and failing cable connections.

wimax· amsterdam· usb modem· bandwidth· prepaid internet· mobile data

01:58 UPC who I'd like to name and shame Universal Product Code? When did they get into the business? They might as well be the Universal Product Code. So anyway, so there's this... Kind of the new service, new WiMAX service in Amsterdam, which is, I have to say, is pretty cool. You go into the store, you buy the USB stick modem, and then you sign up online. You can sign, you can prepay. So I prepaid for a week, and you can decide what kind of bandwidth you want. So I said, give me the max, which is five megabits down, one megabit up. You plug it in, and the crap just works. So, where do you pick it? So if I was visiting, I could just go buy one of these things and I'd be online while I was in Amsterdam as much as I wanted to be? Even better than that, you can use any WiMAX modem. You know, it's just a modem. Yeah, but let me warn you that WiMAX modems are incompatible with each other. Okay, alright. So in that case, yeah, you can come into Amsterdam, you pick up a WiMAX modem, which I think is 90 euros.

02:56 That's reasonable. It's reasonable and then you go online. They're paying 20 bucks a day in a hotel. Hell yeah, and see one week of the five down one up cost $9.95 and obviously if you do a longer term you can do a contract you know I did the prepaid you can do a longer term and I think the the five down one up per month if you do a six month contract is like $14.95 and it's awesome. Of course it doesn't give me, you know, porn on TV, because that's still out, but otherwise it allows me to do the show. Yeah. I'm pleasantly surprised, I have to say. Of course, let me knock on wood, because you know that, of course, it'll crap out halfway through. Probably. Let me see how we're doing on the stream here. Oh, yeah, lots of people on the stream. Cool. Oh, wait a minute. Why does it say offline? What the hell is that?

03:50 Let me go look at the chat room. I'm listening to the chat room today. Yeah, could people still hear it because I'm getting like So you guys still in the chat room there? Yeah, and Tosh are you still hearing the? Or Macintosh now are these are dudes and twisted lemon I love it. I love it. So do you want to start? Well, we can start with your but you know again, you know, I want to remind people and I think The guy says the stream is good. Don't touch it, Adam. I want to remind people that we actually give them news before it actually happens. You mean like Michael Jackson being murdered?

CHAPTER 03 / 26 Discussion

Michael Jackson Murder Allegations and Media Distraction

Janet Jackson and Joe Jackson have publicly stated they believe Michael Jackson was murdered, leading the Los Angeles Police Commissioner to treat the death as a possible murder investigation. Claims are made that the heavy media coverage of the Jackson family serves to distract the public from more significant global events.

michael jackson· janet jackson· joe jackson· murder investigation· la police commissioner

04:37 We've done this consistently by the way since the flying swoo... flying swoo... The flying swoo everybody! We're all going to die from the flying swoo! The flying floo to everything in between and the oil fiasco and I mean it's unbelievable but yes that's exactly what I'm referring to Janet Jackson has come out and said she thinks her brother was murdered. Yeah, duh! Not just Janet, but Joe has come out and more members of the family and now the LA Police Commissioner is saying we're treating it as possible murder investigation. Well, duh. Duh. But of course the only reason they did that, John, is they wanted to hold back because they needed to extend the real news a little bit to cover up what is actually happening in the world.

CHAPTER 04 / 26 Discussion

News of the World Phone Tapping Scandal, David Cameron

The News of the World newspaper, part of Rupert Murdoch's media empire, is accused of tapping the cell phones and text messages of celebrities, sports figures, and politicians. David Cameron's director of communications, Andy Coulson, is linked to the scandal from his time as an editor at the publication, amid allegations that the data was used for political blackmail.

news of the world· rupert murdoch· david cameron· andy coulson· phone tapping· blackmail

05:24 Yeah, well that's a possibility too. And I'll be happy to... So let's go over some of the possibilities, some real news then that's happening in the world. Not real news but news that's happening in the world. Some actual news. Well, we kind of glossed over it last week if we even, or Thursday if we even... I hear the helicopters coming by the way. Are they black? No, they're blue and they're Bulkovs. It's just the Dutch police. The news of the world Has has been caught or you know, it has come to light that they were Tapping cell phones of well, of course what hits the news is they were tapping cell phones of celebrities And you know, you wonder why news of the world always has the latest celebrity gossip first news of the world is a Sunday newspaper publication in the United Kingdom Gitmo Nation East that

06:17 does about 9 or 10 million copies per Sunday, per week. So they always have the latest news about celebrities and sports figures, but they were also tapping the phones and the text messages of a number of politicians. and you know we kind of... That's what you do it. Yes, so of course the news is all focusing on oh my gosh you know they know all this with this great stuff about Elmick Fearson but what's really going on and I have to say the Guardian has been all over this. You have to understand some of the connections. The conservative leader David Cameron, so that's of the shadow government as they call it, the opposition,

07:00 His director of communications is Andy Coulson, spelled C-O-U-L-S-O-N. And he was a deputy editor and editor of the News of the World at the time when this was taking place. And now Murdoch, because of course News of the World is part of the Sun, which is all part of the Murdoch Empire, he's paying people off to the tune of one million pounds to stop the court cases and now I'm really starting to understand and connect all these dots because these guys are blackmailing politicians. You know, Murnich of course owns most media in the world and so when you have... Blackmailing politicians, that's why you do it. I keep saying, you know, since the day they started initiating these wireless, you know, these warrantless wiretaps, you know that's what it's all about. It's about blackmail and stock tips.

CHAPTER 05 / 26 Discussion

Goldman Sachs Code Theft and Sergei Alenikoff Arrest

Former Goldman Sachs programmer Sergei Alenikoff was arrested by federal agents at Newark Liberty International Airport for allegedly stealing secret high-frequency trading software. The software, referred to as the Doomsday Box, allows for rapid-fire trades that generate small margins at massive volumes, potentially creating a false sense of market liquidity.

goldman sachs· sergei alenikoff· high-frequency trading· doomsday box· department of justice

07:57 Well, let's keep it on the stock tips for a second because that's where it gets very interesting. And I'll put these links in the show notes obviously at noagenda.meviator.com. You can find it at noagenda.squarespace.com because it is connected to this code that was stolen, quote, stolen from Goldman Sachs. This computer code which actually has a name they call it. I think the doomsday box or something like that. Hold on Yeah, it would come up in something like that Everybody's got a sense of humor my Russian sources, you know, they always come up with good stuff Hold on for some reason 8 million browser windows just opened and that was kind of weird some kind of funny pop-up I'm gonna get this story for you

08:48 tracking Adam Curry pop-up yeah tracking we're in command we've yes we've got him we've got him now you going babe no oh I love you too sorry it's my producer did you throw up in your mouth again going okay digging where you're digging okay here we go all right so Yeah, it is called the Doomsday Box. So you have to understand that here's all these connections and eventually comes back to Murdoch. The Israeli opposition leader, former Mossad agent Zippy Livini, Zip, T-Z-I-P-I, apparently turned over a complete dossier which includes knowledge of this code

09:42 which was written by the ISA, which is the Israeli Security Forces or whatever it is. Agency. Yeah, agency. Thank you. And so there's a lot of confirmation. There's really good links in these articles that I'll put up in the show notes, including Bloomberg about, here's a quote, never let it be said that the Justice Department can't move quickly when it gets a hot tip about an alleged crime at a Wall Street bank. It does help though if the party doing the complaining is the bank itself and not merely an aggrieved customer. Another plus is if the bank tells the Fed the security of the US financial markets is at stake. This brings us to the strange tale of Goldman Sachs Group Inc and Sergei Alenikoff.

10:26 So Elena Koff is the former Goldman computer programmer who was arrested on charges July 3rd as he stepped off a flight at Liberty International Airport in Newark, New Jersey, which was two days after Goldman told the government that he had stolen its secret Rapid Fire stock and commodities trading software in early June. The point is very clear that when the bank says to the Feds, hey man, he stole some code, normally you'd have a normal path of investigation. But no, they get this guy within two days at the airport. They jump all over him because they know what's really going on. This code is now pretty much confirmed to be a fraud.

11:05 the black box that sits in the middle really before the trades are executed and it was being used for this rapid-fire trading where you can do like you can do a trade in in a millisecond and make 0.5 cents right that you know 0.5 cents per trade now of course if you're doing computer trading you can do 8 million of these trades a day Then it starts to get a little bit more interesting or you could do 800 million of them. And what this does is it creates two things. One, it's very little incremental pieces of margin that you're making on these rapid fire quick trades. And make no mistake, the computers that run on Wall Street are huge. I mean, this is just massive iron that they're running. But it also gives a fake sense of liquidity in a stock.

CHAPTER 07 / 26 Discussion

Congressional Committee Process and Audit the Fed Bill

The Federal Reserve continues to refuse to disclose the recipients of two trillion dollars in emergency funding despite ongoing lawsuits. Efforts to pass an Audit the Fed bill face significant bureaucratic hurdles, as the legislation must pass through committees dominated by the majority party before reaching the House floor for a vote.

federal reserve· nancy pelosi· audit the fed· house of representatives· congressional committees

14:32 He was either the first one with the new guy, the last, maybe the last one done with, what's his name? The British, good looking British actor who's irked that he got fired. I'm sorry, I don't know. Oh, we can't remember anything, it's pathetic. I don't know anybody. Somebody in this chatroom, who's the name of the actor that, what was it, somebody in the chatroom must know this James Bond movie I'm talking about and they can cite it. So anyway, so it seems like... I don't think this chat room really listens to us by the way. No, no, they're just sitting there bitching about how come Adam and John do the show together in the same location? They should have dinner together and record it. Pierce Brosnan. Ah, Pierce Brosnan, right. So, I don't know man, just take a look at the Obama administration, take a look at all of the Goldman Sachs executives who were in there and have been in there and how rampant it is.

15:25 In fact, this report even says that economists around the world are now calling Wall Street the fourth branch of the government, which is kind of funny. I like it. Well, here we go. Since we're on that topic. Fed refuses to disclose recipients of two trillion. They've been refusing that for months. They're refusing now a new Bloomberg suit. But no, the big news is not that so much as that is the, where is it? It's the fact that they tried to slip in a audit the Fed. Right. Oh, right. They tried to slip, attach it to another bill. Yeah, this is now ain't gonna happen. This whole thing ain't gonna happen.

16:09 Well, they do have enough to pass the House, but what I did not know is even if you have 280 people or whatever who co-sponsor a bill, it still has to be introduced, right? Nancy Pelosi would have to introduce this bill. How does that work, John? No, they kept the writer out of the bill. By the way, it's a Tomorrow Never Dies. It seems to be in the movie. But tell me, how do you get a bill onto the floor of the House? Is this like some magical process? No, it's just that it goes through, first it's written up and then it goes through a committee and then the committee has to submit it to the House and then the House has to accept it. And that's done through various, it's just a bureaucracy until it gets to the floor and then when it gets to the floor it gets voted on. After debate. Okay, so but... It takes a long time by the way. Can it take years and years? The committee is where all the action is. It's the committees, the committees, the committees. The committees are the ones who make the decision whether it's going to be put out or not.

17:09 And it usually gets you, oh I said the thing, killed in committee. Because the committee just says no, not going to do it. And when you have it, and the committee is dominated by the party in charge, so it'd be all this, so the committee maybe had nine people and it's five Democrats and four Republicans or six Democrats and three Republicans. And if the Democrats don't let the bill go out, boom, stays, it's killed in committee. Well that's kind of a weird process. That's a good process. It slows things down. The problem is there's all these people adding things to the bill at the end. The bill comes out of committee, the fine bill, and then people start slipping in the bullshit. Right. Well how come this can't be slipped in as bullshit on some other bill? They're gonna try, but it's obviously if it can't get slipped in as bullshit on this bill, it's gonna be just as hard to be slipped in as bullshit on any bill. It's not gonna happen.

18:04 That's so disappointing. Our system clearly doesn't work. Well, no, that part doesn't work. It's corrupt. It does work if it wasn't for corrupt politicians. and the fixes in and the fact that the whole country is being run by public relations departments you know the only thing that's actually saved us is the fact that with the public relations departments which were at just before the internet came along and the web started taking over essentially the public relations departments of all these large corporations were writing to the newspapers newspaper people weren't reporting on anything You're so right. But now they can't do that anymore because they don't know who's the movers and shakers out there. I mean, it was last time you were called by a public relations person regarding this show. They don't even know it exists.

CHAPTER 08 / 26 Discussion

Cass Sunstein and White House Office of Information

Harvard Law professor Cass Sunstein has been appointed to lead the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, a role critics compare to a Ministry of Truth. Sunstein's book, On Rumors, advocates for a "notify and take down" system for internet content to combat the spread of falsehoods and social media echo chambers.

cass sunstein· barack obama· ministry of truth· libel· free speech· internet regulation

18:49 So along those very lines... We, by the way, have an audience as big as most newspapers. So, yeah, so we're screwed up. And we actually make money. We're not actually losing money on the deal. We have to beg for it, but we do make some. Yeah, I mean, we're not losing a million dollars a week. So, our local paper in San Francisco. Kerry, our New York research department, Kerry Lutz, sent, I think he sent it to you as well, John, an article that ran in the New York Post, which of course is a tabloid newspaper, but in these days, I would say that you'll probably get more real news from the tabloid newspapers than you'll get from any other source, which of course they're the only ones that can actually print it because it's so outrageous that it gets written off as crazy talk.

19:37 The title of this is gag the Internet. Apparently Cass Sunstein, a Harvard Law professor who has been appointed to a post within the Obama administration that will grant him powers as the article says that are merely mind-boggling. It explicitly supports using the courts to impose a chilling effect on speech that might hurt someone's feelings. So this is how he's working on stifling free speech on the internet. Yeah, it's a good effect.

20:16 It might work. It might. He has a new book which is coming out, advanced copies of course were read by the journalist who wrote this article. His book is called On Rumors, How Falsehoods Spread, Why We Believe Them, What Can Be Done. It's going out to reviewers ahead of its September publication date but considering the prominence with which Sunstein is about to be endowed and he's actually his He has been chosen by President Obama to head the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. John, finally, the Ministry of Truth is here! It's about time. The White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. This has been reported in the Wall Street Journal, but of course you haven't really heard about this because we're more concerned with Michael Jackson's murder.

21:07 And let me see if I can find, here we go. He worries that Sustein that we're headed for a future in which quote people's beliefs are a product of social networks working as echo chambers in which false rumors spread like wildfire. That future though already here according to Sustein We hardly need to imagine a world, however, in which people and institutions are being harmed by the rapid spread of damaging falsehoods via the internet. We live in that world. What might be done to reduce the harm? Well, he questions the libel standard. Basically it comes down to a notify and take down. That puts you and myself in the driver's seat when it comes to some of those early lawsuits.

21:55 Yeah, well, it's always somebody saying something nasty about us. Yeah, right. It hurts my feelings. It hurts my feelings. My feelings are so freaking hurt, John. What he's going for is a libel, so a system of notify and take down. So we'll have take down notices for untruths on the internet. So if you write an untruth, notify and take down. They're going to be the government dole because they're going to have to hire millions of people to do this. I want a job. I got to study some law. I got to pass the bar. I got to get into some kind of law program.

CHAPTER 09 / 26 Discussion

EPA Greenhouse Gas Findings and White House Memo

Senator John Barrasso confronted EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson with a leaked White House memo questioning the scientific basis for regulating greenhouse gases. The memo warns that classifying carbon dioxide as a danger to public health under the Clean Air Act will have serious economic consequences for small businesses and the broader U.S. economy.

epa· lisa jackson· john barrasso· greenhouse gases· clean air act· carbon dioxide

22:36 down notice for and by the way how does that work with global warming? Oh well, oh geez. Well of course you know you if you say that global warming doesn't exist you'll get a takedown notice. Yeah. You'll get a total takedown notice. We were talking about what's her name the the weird chick who was testifying we had a sound clip of her last time Janine Garofalo? She looks a bit like Janine Garofalo, but no that's not the one. The other one. The Lisa Jackson? Lisa Jackson, yeah. And I'm just skimming through my email to find this clip. How come I can't find this now? Let me just search for it. So apparently two years ago the Supreme Court

23:34 passed a ruling that said that the EPA, which she now heads, would be allowed to create legislation to stop greenhouse gases. But there were several other memos that basically said there's no science to support that greenhouse gases are creating global warming. and i can't believe that maybe this was the same hearing john you pulled the clip from but i have a youtube video here and it's the way they are going to mention something that you do have to add to this the giving more background is also a uh... provides so uh... in within that that that's an already described that she the head of the e p a or any of the p a not just her akin to can define and they talked about this in these hearings can define anything

24:25 as a greenhouse gas if they want to, you know. Yes. So you could, which means the helium could be a greenhouse gas. Well, I think CO2 pretty much covers most things since that's the shit we're exhaling when we breathe. So I think they did a pretty good job. There are going to be attacks on that. You're going to have to hold your breath. And in fact, that's where the problem, the saying will come from. Don't hold your breath. There you go. So there's a smoking gun memo And Barrasso actually questions her on it and I think we should listen to a little bit of this clip. Stop me when it gets too much for you, John.

25:04 I appreciate Senator Whitehouse's comments that we need lawful, fact-based regulation. And I appreciate the... So this is Barrasso speaking. Ms. Jackson's comments that she wanted to make sure that we did this without overburdening small businesses and others. Okay. And that brings to my concern and the question, Ms. Jackson, about the EPA recent proposal finding greenhouse gases, as you said, are a danger to the public health and welfare. Oh, I know why, John. This is actually from May, this hearing. So I guess we missed this one altogether. It's the Environment and Public Works Committee. It really appears to me that that decision was based more on political calculation than on scientific ones. In a memo that I received this morning, and it's marked, Deliberative Attorney-Client Privilege, nine pages, you are mentioned on every page of this memo. It is a White House memo.

26:01 Council in this administration repeatedly, repeatedly questions the lack of scientific support that you have for this proposed finding. It's here, nine pages. This is a smoking gun saying that your findings were political, not scientific. Here, page two. There is concern that the EPA is making a finding based on harm from substances that have no demonstrated direct health effects. I love that. Such as respiratory or toxic effects. You then talk about regulating greenhouse gases and the economy.

26:41 Dow Jones Newswire this morning, U.S. regulation of greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide, quote, is likely to have serious economic consequences for businesses small and large across the economy. That's what a White House memo warned the Environmental Protection Agency earlier this year. Here it is, making the decision to regulate carbon dioxide under the Clean Air Act for the first time is likely to have serious economic consequences for regulated entities throughout the US economy, including small businesses and small communities. This is really important stuff because people don't realize what's being voted on and how it will indeed completely tank every single company because of the high prices of energy costs which will include just turning lights on.

27:28 How do you square that when you say I don't want any overriding effect on the economy of small businesses? But this own internal document marked deliberative attorney-client privilege says everything you're proposing is going to have serious economic consequences for our businesses in this nation. Now let's listen to our answer. Charlie Munger, who was the Warren Buffett's partner at Berkshire Hathaway, he was recently on CNBC he said an artificial market and government mandated carbon credits would be quote monstrously stupid to do right now he added that the move is almost demented other nations intention to continue industrial development emitting vast amounts

CHAPTER 10 / 26 Discussion

Lisa Jackson Testimony on Cap and Trade Policy

EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson defended the administration's move toward a market-based cap and trade program during a Senate hearing. While Jackson claims the agency will focus on large emitters in the transportation and utility sectors, critics argue the policy will exponentially increase energy costs for all consumers and businesses.

lisa jackson· cap and trade· epa· global warming· dunkin donuts· carbon credits

28:10 Is she a Latina? It's like she's mixed. I can't tell she's like she looks like she kind of has a I don't know. She's she's not she's maybe black half latin or Puerto Rican. She might be Puerto Rican. I don't know. Hey John. Your voice just went up like four octaves. That's pretty cool. How do you do that? Is someone in the house downloading porn again? No.

28:54 Might be something going on. Anyway. You sound horrible. Do I? Just all of a sudden? You went up three octaves, I swear to God. I wish you could hear it. Well let me see what I've got going and maybe there's something downloading. Nope. Well I just sound like this all the time now. I like it. What did you do with the real Dvorak? Who are you? I've got him. I have captured Mr. Dvorak. All humans must die. I don't have that document in front of me, so I'll comment generally on any of the issues you bring up. May I just inquire if the Senator intends to make that document a matter of record? Hell yeah. If I'm asked unanimous consent to be Madam Chairman, I would be happy to do that. That way we all know what we're talking about. She makes a face. Oh man, you just want to hate her.

29:47 I appreciate it. She's a horrible person. Yes, she is. I'm sorry if I hurt her feelings by saying that. You could get a takedown notice for saying that, dude. I will answer briefly, Senator, because I suspect we'll have this discussion many times. He's so smug. I disagree with several of the characterizations. The first is that the endangerment finding is a scientific finding, mandated by law, mandated by the Supreme Court. Which, by the way, is not true. Because if you look at the documents, and I'll put those in the show notes as well, The Supreme Court actually did not say you have to make regulations. It says, well, you know, you could if you wanted to, but it has to be based on scientific fact, which of course what the big dispute is. The Supreme Court ruled two years ago that EPA owed the American people a determination as to whether greenhouse gases, either in whole or individually, endanger public health and welfare.

30:39 That analysis had been done really before I took the oath of office. Oh, that all happened with someone else. I wasn't a part of that. Wir haben es nicht gewusst. We did review it as I promised to do at my confirmation hearing. We reviewed the science of it. We reviewed the science. You look like a scientist, Ms. Jackson. We went through... She looks like a... She doesn't know anything. I don't know. She used to be the head. She got the job because she was the head of the some, the New Jersey, she worked with the governor's office or something. She was the head of the New Jersey Air Board for a while or something like that. So she somehow, I don't know how they picked her.

31:17 but it was ridiculous and I'll tell you this I used to work a girl in one of my many jobs of course I was an air pollution inspector John hold on a second and now something really weird is going on because first of all the voice is killing me second of all if you even look like you're offline on Skype you're you're you're oh no I'm on I'm on invisible but that I do that that's not well did I get changed don't go on go on invisible for a second and let me call you back because this is this is not okay All right, go so make sure that you're not if can I still call you if you're there you go all right Say something and yes, you can by the way you can call me when I'm invisible. Let's try it right now All right, you're back and the question was who who is this Lisa Jackson?

32:06 Yes, she was like the head of the New Jersey Air Board for a while and she's a bureaucrat. And I don't think she even has a science degree or anything so I don't know why she's the head of the EPA. It makes no sense to me whatsoever. There's probably plenty of very qualified people but they've got this woman. But the Jersey connection is always a little sketchy. Go easy on Jersey, man. Go easy. Just saying. So I worked for the air pollution district as a young man and we had some guys from Jersey that were part of this and they said that basically, essentially when they went out and did their job in Jersey where air pollution guys, it was all by payoffs and by you know there was no real work. It was all you know grease.

32:51 and uh... so now this is the woman coming from a uh... uh... uh... story brand new right she she was just appointed to the new head of the fda of ono but he p a c a she's really isn't reasonably new isn't she yes is brand new she's obama's man and and and she is and uh... i'd just don't trust her and i don't like i don't like this month is that i don't think of good government servant should be talking down to everybody the way she does. She's incredibly glib and smug and arrogant. She's creepy. Yeah, well let's listen to some more of that glibness. Agency review through the White House. So again, I'm not sure what that document may say. It's deliberative, so obviously it's people's opinions.

33:36 It's people's opinions. It does not mean regulation. I have said over and over, as has the president, that we do understand that there are costs to the economy of addressing global warming emissions and that the best way to address them is through a gradual move to a market-based program like cap and trade. Oh my God! There's a difference between a cap-and-trade program, which can be authorized by legislation and is being discussed, and a regulatory program. With respect to EPA's regulatory authority, it is true that if the endangerment finding is final, You gotta love it.

34:32 where we particularly didn't look for small businesses to register or have to report emissions. If you want an indication of where we know the significant sources of greenhouse gases are, they're in transportation and the utility sector. So what she's saying is she's actually turning it around and she's saying, oh, well, you know, small businesses won't have to pay for cap and trade. But she's avoiding the point which is the whole cap and trade program will raise energy prices to an extreme degree. That's what she's avoiding. Oh, to make it impossible. Yeah, well this is because she, you know, I don't know if she's being insincere or she's an idiot. I'm not absolutely sure one of the two. But there's an article that people should try to track down. I'll send you, make sure it'll be in the show notes, which is the Telegraph's article on July 11th, 2009, just came out. Climate Change, The Sun and the Oceans Do Not Lie by Christopher Booker.

CHAPTER 11 / 26 Discussion

Global Warming Skepticism and the Copenhagen Treaty

Journalist Christopher Booker reports that the upcoming Copenhagen Treaty aims to force G8 and G20 nations to cut CO2 emissions by 50% by 2050, which skeptics argue would require shutting down most industrial activity. Over 30,000 scientists, including the founder of the Weather Channel, are reportedly challenging the consensus on man-made global warming.

copenhagen treaty· g8· christopher booker· al gore· climate change· weather channel

35:24 And he goes on and on and on with the, what a crock that this seems to be, especially the cap and trade. But he makes, let me just read this, the very first paragraph. The moves now being made by the world's political establishment to lock us into December's Copenhagen Treaty to halt global warming are as alarming as anything that's happened in our lifetimes. Last week in Italy, the various branches of our emerging world government, G8 and G20, agreed in principle that the world must by 2050 cut its CO2 emissions in half. britain in the u s already committed to cutting their fossil fuels by more than eighty percent short of an unimaginable technological revolution this could only be achieved by closing down virtually all of our economic activity no electricity no transport no industry all this is being a done by a gigantic publicity machine by the u n by sarah drinks of government-funded scientists by cheerleaders

36:19 just al gore last week comparing the fight against global warming to that against hitler's nazis ho ho ho ho that's what's going to have to go telegraph and by politicians who have no idea what they're setting in train this makes it this even otter that the runaway warming predicted by the computer miles simply isn't happening this by the way is being pointed out will only by there's somebody the other day this you know right wing talk radio listeners get this kind of information and they've never goes into the mainstream if you're always baffled then they cite like the duke university uh... student fake uh... rape charges that everybody knew was phony that listens to uh... real news but the new york times was still promoting running these kids out of school is just typical this particular it's stuff right now i'm hearing a lot about it

37:10 They have not been able to confirm any warming whatsoever over the past five or six years and there's no sea level rising. There's nothing going on. There are 30,000 scientists who are, led by the guy who started the Weather Channel, who are suing Al Gore and the UN about the so-called science of global warming. You don't even hear about that. No, of course not. 30,000 of which 8,000 are PhDs. 30,000! Nope. You see, I want to get that Janine Garofalo clip so we can play it over and over and over again. Which one is that? Where she says, the Janine Garofalo clip that we played a couple weeks ago where she says, everybody's in total agreement about this. Okay, hold on, I can find it. I know I can find it.

CHAPTER 12 / 26 Discussion

Janine Garofalo and EPA Regulation of Small Businesses

A discussion regarding Janine Garofalo's public comments on climate change leads back to Lisa Jackson's testimony. Jackson specifically mentioned the potential to regulate diverse entities like Dunkin' Donuts under the Clean Air Act, leading to accusations of brand plugging and bureaucratic overreach.

janine garofalo· lisa jackson· dunkin donuts· clean air act· regulation

38:05 Everybody's in total agreement. Everybody. Yeah, everybody. Yeah, we played that, that was a while ago, wasn't it? It's back there. We need to get a database for some of these. Because the one I really want to play over and over is Jobs, Jobs, Jobs, Jobs. Let's vote for Jobs, yay! Jobs. You know what, Janine Garofalo, I think she's just misguided. She's not a shill, she's just dumb. She is dumb. Wanna listen a little bit more of Miss Jackson? Oh yeah, might as well. Don't call me nasty.

38:42 One last quick question, Madam Chairman, if I could. Could you please explain then by what authority can the EPA decide to not include all of these other emitters of carbon dioxide who do reach the admission thresholds set out in the Clean Air Act? I mean, how can anyone in your administration decide where to draw that line? The law, as you just said, is clear. So how do you not go after everyone or expose yourself to lawsuits? for all of those others. Senator, thanks. I know this has been an issue that we've gone back and forth on. It's one I look forward to having continued dialogue. Oh, typical spin answer. Oh, yeah. We'll keep going on back and forth then. If it comes to that point where we're into a regulatory mode on greenhouse gas emissions, I will say only the following two things. I'm not prepared here to outline a legal strategy. Certainly it would be one of the things we would

39:31 propose as part of a regulatory agenda. The second thing I would say is to remind you that we in under the Clean Air Act have the potential to regulate all those sources you talk about. Yeah, we can we can regulate everybody including your farts, Senator. For other contaminants, schools and hospitals and farms and Dunkin Donuts. Did she just say Dunkin Donuts? Yeah. Oh my god, let's listen to that again. I say short Dunkin Donuts. I'll tell you this, well either that or she's shilling for Dunkin Donuts, I would be skeptical here because if Sarah Palin could get busted for wearing a logo on her shirt.

40:12 Why is this woman plugging Dunkin Donuts? And why... and she comes... she doesn't even come up with... you know, if you're using an example, you almost like will pause for a second, but she... it comes... it rolls right off her tongue like she's been talking about it. it.

CHAPTER 13 / 26 Discussion

Say No to the Vaccine Music Interlude

A musical interlude features a YouTube clip titled "Say No to the Vaccine" by Trillion featuring Pataphysics and NRT. The song's lyrics claim that human infection of bird or swine flu only occurs through injection.

vaccine· pataphysics· nrt· youtube· bird flu· swine flu

40:55 Okay, as we move on to more crackpot news. Should we have a little interlude, John? Something that I picked up on YouTube which I think is well worth playing a little piece of. This is a little bit of music for you, everybody. The only way that a human being can get a bird flu or a swine flu is if it is injected in them. This is a trillion featuring pataphysics and NRT. It's called say no to the vaccine. Oh god.

CHAPTER 14 / 26 Discussion

National Vaccine Information Center Skepticism

Skepticism is raised regarding the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) website, which appears overly professional yet lacks a prominent donation system. Concerns are voiced that the organization, based in Virginia, may be a "honeypot" designed to collect personal information from anti-vaccination activists.

nvic· vaccine· virginia· data privacy· nonprofit· honeypot

41:39 It's a great clip. Alright, okay. You gotta listen to the lyrics. You gotta see the video. We'll put it in the show notes. Make sure that's in the show notes. Yeah, there's a bunch of stuff going on. I mean, it's getting it actually, it's going beyond crackpot. The vaccination stuff is right. And by the way, we are aware that we talked about when we had that woman's do her pitch about you know what the government's going to do that she is an anti vaccination person running an anti vaccination site. Our concern is that or at least mine is this the site is so slick.

42:26 Well not only that but the site is registered. It looks like a honeypot to me. I have to agree, a lot of people are saying, oh you should do your research, the MVIC, it's an anti-vaccination organization. Yeah, it's an anti-vaccination organization. Two things I don't like about it, three things. One is it's very very slick. Two, it really doesn't have a donation page. Now I don't know a lot, I mean Jesus Christ, we got big star buttons to click on for our donations. They don't really have a donation page anywhere. We have to really go to the site overview and somewhere hidden in it there's like here's how you can donate 25 bucks.

43:02 On top of that, they're asking you to post your personal information. Yeah, they say they won't do anything with it, but they do ask you to post it. And third, they're registered in Virginia. Now, why are they in Virginia, home of all spooks I might add? Why are they registered in Virginia? All things spook is in Virginia. If you're going to set up a non-profit, wouldn't you want to set it up in anywhere but Virginia? It just doesn't seem like the right place to do it. And I'm very, very concerned about the stuff they're asking people to give them, the information that they're requesting.

43:44 And it's, then again, let's point out again, it's extremely slick. It doesn't seem to be really begging for money like you'd think. There's something amiss. Now, she may be the most sincere person in the world, she could be, you know, very, you know, much into what she's, what she says she's into, but I'm just not happy with, with what I'm seeing. And so we're skeptical, that's all. Yeah. We're not idiots. Oh, you don't do research. Oh, my favorite, you're not doing your homework. Yeah, homework. I am not in college, I'm not in high school. I don't do homework. Oh, John. It's my favorite new jingle.

CHAPTER 15 / 26 Discussion

Ebola Reston Virus Detection in Pigs

The BBC reports that the Ebola Reston virus has been detected in pigs in the Philippines for the first time. While the CDC currently states the virus poses no risk to humans, researchers are monitoring the situation for potential mutations that could lead to a new health threat.

ebola reston· philippines· bbc· cdc· pigs· mutation

44:25 You will take the shot. A form of the Ebola virus has been detected in pigs for the first time, raising concerns it could mutate and pose a new risk to humans, reports the BBC. The Ebola Reston virus is going to mutate and kill us all. Yeah, well we need to have a backup plan. You know if people don't go for the swine flu, Ebola already has kind of that deathly thing to it. Oh yeah, Ebola's bad. Yeah, researchers are concerned that pigs might provide a melting pot where the virus could mutate into something more menacing for humans. Hey BBC, how does it feel being on the payroll of the CIA?

45:04 The new discovery in the Philippines is featured in the Journal of Science. Is that a real publication, the Journal of Science? Oh yeah, no, it's a big one. However, the researchers from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention stress that the virus at present appears to pose no risk to humans. Right. It's just a setup. It's the setup. It's the pre... you know, you telegraph your blow. It's code. Yeah, you're right. I got a great report from Abel. I don't know if he wants me to mention his name. No, he doesn't say anything. I'd just like to read this for a second. And I really appreciate he wrote it in English. It's not his native tongue. And he gives us a report from Buenos Aires, Argentina.

CHAPTER 16 / 26 Discussion

Swine Flu H1N1 Impact in Buenos Aires, Argentina

A listener report from Buenos Aires describes how the H1N1 swine flu became a dominant media story immediately following local elections. The report details public panic, the suspension of schools and theaters, and a separate legal dispute involving Monsanto and genetically modified soybeans in Argentina.

buenos aires· argentina· swine flu· h1n1· monsanto· soybeans

45:56 And so you love the show, blah, blah, blah, you guys are crazy, but you're spot on. I'm from Buenos Aires, Argentina. Everything here is the same, only on a smaller scale. The mass media is mainly controlled by one big multimedia. They own the largest newspaper, TV channel, news cable channel, two cable networks, and an ISP, among other things. Now if you start wondering if allowing such a concentration was a good idea, yes. And they focus on drilling their political opinion. Real News, of course, Michael Jackson is the big story, Britney Spears also shooting a new video and of course putting as much fear into the people as possible. The fear comes mainly in the form of crime news. But now a new star is born in Buenos Aires, swine flu.

46:37 We had election a few weeks ago. The flu was a minor story on TV and papers But when elections was was old news the swine flu hit the big time It's called influenza a here as the suffix h1n1 is too long for the idiots on TV here the rest of the news banging is Staggering people are freaking out some stuff is out of stock like cleaning gel with alcohol and surgical masks But this is not the worst. Remember, this is a report from Buenos Aires, okay? So this is a report from a real producer listener who listens to this show, one of your colleagues. This is not the worst. Schools and universities have been suspended for a couple of weeks now to avoid the transmission risk. Cinemas and theaters are closing as well. The general idea, you catch this flu, you die.

47:23 The number of victims is also sketchy. The official count right now is about 80, but hey, a lot of people die here. Most people die here, poor people die of hunger. A country with 10,000 yearly deaths just from car accidents. Bear in mind the total population is only 40 million, a country where dozens die from Dengue, yes, of course, these are very poor people in the north close to the border with Bolivia and Paraguay. Paraguay, of course, where the bushes are going to move to. So no one gives a shit about them. Besides, the danger stares there. It doesn't spread or threaten good and remote cities like Buenos Aires.

48:02 The media rarely if ever covers these deaths. In conclusion, we don't even need a compulsive vaccination. People will happily form queues and pay for it. Nothing like a nice and feared middle class asshole. The people behind all this count on them. Last topic, Monsanto. I won't bore you with the details. Monsanto has a legal dispute with our country claiming royalties for the GM soybeans as they didn't have much luck here. They tried to get it in Europe from the buyers. Keep up the good shows. I'm going to go with a $24 yearly subscription. Hey, I'm from South America after all. Abel, thank you very much. We highly, highly appreciate your report. Very, very important, this kind of stuff. It is. We need more stuff like that.

CHAPTER 17 / 26 Discussion

Bill Gates Hurricane Prevention Patents and HAARP

Bill Gates has reportedly filed patents for a system to stop hurricanes by mixing warm surface water with colder deep-ocean water using a fleet of vessels. This leads to a discussion on existing weather modification capabilities, including the HAARP project and the presence of a hurricane off the New York coast on September 11, 2001.

bill gates· hurricanes· patents· haarp· weather modification· 9/11

48:46 Meanwhile, Bill Gates is in the news. This is borderline real news story. So apparently some patent watchers found that Bill Gates has reportedly filed several patents aimed to stop hurricanes. Gates and other inventors plan to use large fleets of vessels to mix warm Gulf of Mexico surface water with colder water under the surface. Conduits would extend from one vessel beyond the ocean's thermal cline, which is an invisible line separating the warmer, mixed layer of waters closer to the surface than the cooler and calmer water that is seen further below. Huh. Yeah, that's what I thought. It's like, isn't this tampering with Mother Nature?

49:41 Well, yeah. Maybe it should be that you're doing carbon swap outs or something to even do this or even talk about it. I don't know. Well, I think the whole joke, of course, is that the government has the ability to control the weather. They've had it for many, many, many years. Oh, here we go. And well, please once again go look at the weather maps on September 11th, 2001. You'll see that there was a huge hurricane just off the coast of New York. No one ever talks about it. I mean a huge one. And right after the attacks, the buildings came down, it went away. This is what HAARP is of course. H-A-A-R-P. Go Google that. They have this capability to create hurricanes, so I presume that they also have the capability to divert them or destroy them. So I don't know why Gates is doing this. You think he'd know better? Yeah. So here's another story. This one here ran in the blog, Dvork.org slash blog, Uncle Dave found it. I thought it was a classic.

CHAPTER 18 / 26 Discussion

Recovery.gov Website Contract and Smartronics

The federal government awarded an $18 million contract to a company called Smartronics to redesign and maintain the Recovery.gov website. Critics point out that the high cost for a SharePoint-based site is excessive, suggesting that the project could have been completed for a fraction of the price using platforms like Squarespace or WordPress.

recovery.gov· smartronics· gsa· website design· government spending· sharepoint

50:41 This'll, you probably haven't heard this one yet. Recovery.gov, by the way they never bothered to get recovery.org because they're too dumb. Recovery.gov is going to cause a, they're gonna make it or they're gonna redo the site and they're gonna, to re, just to redo a site, a website, they're gonna drop $18 million. Who has been awarded this contract John I wish it was me. Yeah We could set up a square space site in seconds and make it really rock

51:18 The contract calls for spending 9.5 million in six months for a website. What? This is our new... Is this got something to do with Obama's superstar, you know, tech guy that's the czar of tech? You know what I mean? What is the deal here? This is like, you know, you can find three coders in a basement that can do a better job than these guys are going to do and it's going to cost you like nothing, a couple hundred thousand dollars max. John, John, you've got to go to the website of the company that was awarded this contract, smartronics.com, Sierra, Mike, Alpha, Romeo, Tango, Romeo, Oscar, November, India, X-Ray.

52:03 And, uh, wow, this is like a total militaristic site. NetOps, providing net-centric enterprise services to operate, defend, and assure the global information grid. Oh my god. Smartronics? Smartronics. Yeah. Yeah, I'm looking at it. They actually have two sites. They got one spelled with a C and one spelled with an X. Well, it's the one with the X. The, uh, that's the parent site, according to this thing. Wow. So these guys, here it is, Smartronics is honored to have been selected as the GSA Alliant Prime. GSA, GSA, GSA, this is uh, GSA is like... Government services. Yeah. But, but it's, wait, it's GSA Alliant Prime. It's a, what is this, a science fiction novel? What are they coming up with these names? John... Play the Uilla Bay thing again. Hold on, yeah, we definitely need that. Hold on, let me get to it.

53:06 The GSA Alliant Prime in support of recovery.gov a formal press release will soon to follow. Not one news paper has picked up on the fact that this is a fiasco. 18 million dollars to do a website? Enterprise Software Solutions but they're like what is NetOps? So they do... NetOps. SmartTrol provides... They got a lot of interesting Ajax on this site. Yeah. I mean it's not like they obviously they know what they're doing but they know what they're doing in terms of design except that the way they have actually where they switch pages could be better. But they know what they're kind of doing in terms of design but they obviously really know what they're doing when it comes to working within the government framework. Let's see what jobs are available.

54:06 C&D lead analyst. One or two nerds at minimum wage to do the site. Here, web developer. Here we go, web developer. They're hiring one guy. Absolutely, that's the point. We're looking for a developer that has two or more years experience in web development that includes at least one year experience in application development for SharePoint. Oh, God. SharePoint? Yeah, they're building on ASP. Oh, that's hilarious. Jeez. $18 million. So the initial outlay, which will be $9,516,324. Why don't you put 75 cents in there as well? Are you kidding me? Here it comes. Covers many facets. Redesign and construction of a new website. Installation of hardware and software infrastructure. Hosting and operations for the website. More robust data storage.

55:03 an enhanced content management system and contract labor support and other features. If the recovery board exercises options under the contract, the cost could total $17,948,518 over a period ending in January 2014. 2014! Oh my God! Oh, this is cool. With the assistance of GSA, said Earl E. Devaney, the Recovery Board Chairman, we proceeded in a careful fashion to find the best value for the taxpayer dollar.

55:41 Unbelievable. He went on to say, in the end, this website above all else must be user friendly and provide the public with necessary information on how its money is being spent. Unbelievable. This is the scam of the decade. Oh my god. Was there an open tender for this? Could we have put in our Squarespace skills? I mean, please. Go to noagenda.squarespace.com and tell me we couldn't have built a great recovery.gov site with the Squarespace technology. Or WordPress!

CHAPTER 19 / 26 Discussion

Recovery Board Members and Law Enforcement Backgrounds

The Recovery Board, led by Earl E. Devaney, is comprised primarily of Inspectors General and former law enforcement officials rather than economists. Members include former agents from the Secret Service and officials from the Department of Agriculture and Homeland Security, raising questions about the board's focus on surveillance over economic recovery.

earl e. devaney· recovery board· inspector general· secret service· epa· homeland security

56:32 WordPress.com. Free! You can get free hosting even. Yes. They'd love to do the government site. Oh, here it is. Devaney and the 12 Inspectors General who comprise the Recovery Board. Let's find out who they are in a minute. Describe the contract as firm fixed and competitively bid for operations and maintenance providing a full solution package to include develop the next generation of recovery.gov which will be visually pleasing user-friendly and highly interactive. Dude, we wrote this crap in 1997 and we scammed companies then.

57:08 Here, a mapping capacity that allows users to search for spending all the way down to their own neighborhoods. Oh, it's called Geo-Information Services, douche. The capacity to store and easily download massive amounts of data. A state-of-the-art security platform that will protect the integrity and the availability of the data and a backup system in the event of a major catastrophe such as 9-11 or a large-scale power outage. Contract support to perform a wide array of hosting maintenance and operational services. Why did they mention out of the blue a large-scale power outage? Or a 9-11 type event. Here's the board. Let me see who's on this fricking board. Who are these people? Members.

57:58 Who are the members of this board? The Honorable, oh my god, John. Oh jeez. You gotta see this. Where are you getting that? I'm getting it from recovery.gov. Here's the link. Oh, the board. I see it. The Honorable Earl E. Devaney, who looks like a judge in a hick town where you get arrested for speeding. He does. And he's proud of that look. Okay, what is his deal? He was... He's just leading the board. Yeah, but what's his background? Oh, I'm going to now. Read more. You're now exiting the recovery.gov website. You will now access something or other. It's a site that doesn't work. Doing, doing dot. No, I came up. D O I O I G dot gov. That works for you? I have no idea what that is. It's the Department of something. Uh, here he is. There's a picture of him.

58:54 You have to click on that link when that thing comes up. He's a law enforcement guy, police officer. Yeah, there you go for some hick town. Some hick town in Massachusetts. Graduated from Franklin and Marshall College in 1970 with a degree in government. He became a special agent with the United States Secret Service. There you go. So he's the head guy? Yep. He's the director of the Office of Criminal Enforcement. Hey, go ahead. They're going to have a real user-friendly site if you take it name to numbers. Y'all oversaw all the EPA's criminal investigations. These are all law enforcement people. Look at them. Yeah, what's this got to do with recovery? Why are we having economists? None of them is an economist. They're all

59:42 Treasury Inspector General of Homeland Security is one of them. The Inspector General of the Department of Agriculture, Fong. What's that got to do with recovery? I don't know necessarily. Check out the Honorable J.A. Russell George. These are all Inspector Generals. These are all cops, basically cops. This guy, Russell George, he was nominated by George W. Bush as the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration. Prior to this role, Mr. George served as the Inspector General of the Corporation for National and Community Service. Oh my goodness, Mary Mitchelson? She looks kind of like Esther Dyson. She looks more like John Markoff. And then Mary L. Kendall who could be hot if she had a different hairdo and a big rack. Well, she also has her neck as too thick. She's also an attorney for federal... Oh, law enforcement. That's really weird. That's totally weird. Why is recovery.org, which is supposed to tell you all these things, is all... Dot gov. Dot gov. I'm sorry. Dot org is probably a better one, which is somebody else's, I suppose.

CHAPTER 20 / 26 Discussion

Grants.gov and USAID International Funding

An exploration of Grants.gov reveals numerous federal funding opportunities for international projects in countries like Liberia, Pakistan, and Nigeria. Many of these grants are managed by USAID, an agency described by some as a tool for "economic hitmen" to advance U.S. foreign policy goals under the guise of humanitarian aid.

grants.gov· usaid· economic hitman· pandemic preparedness· foreign policy· nigeria

1:00:43 Check it out. The board is... Go ahead. This is fishy. Now you got 18 million bucks going in. Now they always need 18 million bucks for all the law enforcement that's going to be going on. So anyone who goes to recovery.gov and looks up something, they're going to be tracked like a dog. Fuck yeah. Hey, at least they're being transparent. Yeah, the guys are there, at least they don't have mysterious board members. you know it doesn't it's just give me the information so it's a brochure look at all the links at the bottom john what is this USA.gov gobeerno USA.gov USA spending.gov grants.gov fedbizops.gov govloans.gov benefits.gov what the heck they're spending a million dollars in logo design what the hell is this stuff look at this grants.gov logo this thing costs money that's not a cheap logo

1:01:54 Government loans dot gov. That's a nice logo too that cost me I can set that believe me I can see a logo that cost money This wasn't done by some by one of the members of the committee. Can we get a grant? Let's go to grants.gov. Can we get a good? Let's see we get a grant. Maybe they'll get us to shut up We will go away if you give us enough money find apply succeed grants.gov is your source to find and apply for federal government grants and This bullshit about you're exiting this website. You're exiting the website. I hate that. Yeah, I know I'm exiting the website. That's the way the web works, you idiots. Keyword search. Okay, let's say keyword search should be... What's our search?

1:02:42 money search grants grants by the way this site this looks like it was done by one of these agent one of these companies John I put in grants it comes up with did you mean grannies No results found. Please rephrase your query. No results found for grants at grants.gov? Let me try conspiracy. Hold on. Con... conspiracy. Let's see if that comes up with anything. Conspiracy. Oh, jeez! Oh my goodness.

1:03:20 What? Well you can go to Google. No, I'm looking at the grant site. We can get opportunity title, Liberia Civil Society and Media Project, Community Prevention of Mother-to-Child Transmission. Yeah, that's conspiracy alright. Empowering Pakistan, Water and Sanitation Program. These are all part, these will come up under conspiracy? I don't get anything when I type in conspiracy. Well, you're looking at the right place? I don't know, you hit the search thing at the top. No, here. No, no, no, no, no. I'm doing the grant search. There's the link. Oh, okay. Grant search. Basic search. And I put in conspiracy. I get all this whacked out crap. So you under keyword, you put conspiracy there? Yeah, under the basic search. Wow. Okay. I'm looking at that. Wow. Bangladesh HIV AIDS follow-on activity local governance civil society partnership to improve capacity for service delivery.

1:04:20 This is some serious money out there that we should be able to get. Sure looks like it. But this is all Nigeria? Thailand? Yeah, we're sending money to Nigeria. Local government civil society partnerships to improve capacity for service delivery. Oh, here. Here we go. Prepare for pandemic preparedness. Where's this? Which page? Hold on, I'll send you. Are you on page one still or two? No, I already went further. I'll send you the link there. The synopsis for this grant opportunity is detailed below. Eligible applicants, others. Okay, to be eligible for the cooperative agreement under this RFA, an organization must be a US-based institution. Description, the USAID is launching a coordinated comprehensive program designed to minimize the impact of specific newly emergent diseases of animal origin which pose a significant threat to human health and development. The program must be managed by the USAID avian and pandemic influenza unit. Huh?

1:05:20 USAID will closely work with international host governments, USG and private sector entities to coordinate activities and ensure that USAID... Who is this USAID? That's an economic hitman. Is that a company, USAID? It's an agency or something. I don't know. It's a good question. I mean, as far as I... Every time I see it, it's... In fact, there's a guy in San Francisco... It's the United... Here it is, USAID.gov. Oh, man! USAID from the American people. This is money we're giving away. The US Agency for International Development. Yeah, that's what it is. This is the economic hitman that we've talked about in the past. That's what this is. What is this web? Oh, I'm looking at USAID.com. That's funny. Nice move. You don't know why the government doesn't grab these ancillary

1:06:14 What is USAID? These sites by the way are crappy. You know what, these are 18 million dollar websites, John. This is not just any old site. It's unbelievable. The US Agency for International Development is an independent agency, independent, that provides economic, development and humanitarian assistance around the world in support of the foreign policy goals of the United States. Okay. Yeah. Economic hitmen. There you go. Yeah. Which is fine. We have a you know our foreign policy. I mean we we are I don't have a problem with it a record of accomplishment more than 3 million lives saved or created eat every year through the US But it does say more than 3 million lives are saved every year through USA immunization programs ie pharma testing

1:07:10 80,000 people and 1 billion dollars in the US and Filipino assets were saved due to early warning equipment installed by USAID that warned that the Mount Pinatubo volcano was about to erupt in 1991. Huh? That's it? Oral rehydration therapy. Is that the best we can come up with? Oral rehydration therapy, a low-cost and easily administered solution developed through USAID programs in Bangladesh is credited with saving tens of millions of lives around the globe. Now I'll give you some oral hydration. Come over here. I'll hydrate you.

CHAPTER 21 / 26 Discussion

Bush Administration Surveillance and Indictment Speculation

Reports suggest that the Bush administration's domestic surveillance programs, overseen by Dick Cheney, went far beyond legal boundaries. Despite clear violations of the Fourth Amendment and U.S. Code, there is little expectation that high-ranking officials will face indictment, contrasting with the strict prosecution of minor civilian offenses.

dick cheney· cia· fourth amendment· surveillance· bush administration· justice system

1:07:47 Alright, let's move off of this because it's just driving me nuts. Yeah. Alright, so how are we doing for time on this show? I think we got like 10 more minutes and then we're done. Alright, well there's an interesting story that cropped up about how apparently the Bush surveillance program went way beyond the Fourth Amendment. They've killed it, you know, everybody's upset now they're blaming Cheney He was a doing a deal with the CIA and the CIA was told to stop this program. There's still a secret We don't know what it was about and apparently no, of course according to reports The CIA had no objection to stopping it because they probably felt that they had their tit in the ringer if this you know Any information got about what they were actually doing domestically I'm guessing yeah now so the question on my mind when do they indict somebody and

1:08:34 From the Bush administration. Well, they won't. Why? It sounds to me as though they violated all kinds of laws. There are laws against doing a lot of the stuff they were doing. It's just against the law. I mean, isn't that where we're a nation of laws? Aren't there laws? I mean, they bust people. You know, they had some case my wife was pointing out to me. Some woman in Alameda, some kid had carved her name or just took a felt-tip pen and wrote, I love Joey or something on the bench. on the bench at the AC Transit bench and a cop picked her up, arrested her for terrorism and all kinds of weird... because they couldn't read her writing and they thought it may be a threat.

1:09:20 and the woman's going through the whole, you know, system of the justice system for scribbling when in the olden days, of course, you would have made her clean it up and sent her home. I mean, they're doing that, but meanwhile, people violating the Fourth Amendment, breaking U.S. Code laws left and right, and there's nothing? Nope. Nothing. Okay, just wanted to get that straight. We would be amiss if we did not mention, and this is a Bloomberg report, there's other sources with better pictures than the Bloomberg report. I'll put those in the show notes of course. noagenda.meviator.com, noagenda.squarespace.com, the 18 million dollar value we receive from Squarespace. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev.

CHAPTER 22 / 26 Discussion

Dmitry Medvedev and the United Future World Currency

At the G8 summit in Italy, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev revealed a sample coin for a "united future world currency" featuring the motto "Unity in Diversity." The phrase is noted for its similarity to the "Diversity is Unity" doublethink slogan from George Orwell's 1984.

dmitry medvedev· g8· world currency· unity in diversity· george orwell· 1984

1:10:02 illustrated his call for a supranational currency to replace the dollar by pulling from his pocket a sample coin of a united future world currency. Here it is, Medvedev told reporters today in L'Aquila, Italy, after summit of the Group of Eight Nations. You can see it and touch it. The coin, which bears the words, unity in diversity, isn't that directly from 1984, John? Isn't that actually... It's just ludicrous. Maybe it was, maybe the coin's a joke. Hold on, unity in diversity, 1984. I think I read that in the book. It could be, but I mean there's something like it in the book, that's for sure.

1:10:43 The question on my mind is, they gave one of these coins to every one of the members of the G20 I guess. Or the G8 or whoever the hell was meeting, whatever world government was trying to screw us. Oh, no, it's called, no, no, in Orwell the double think was diversity is unity. It was exactly the other way around. That's what Orwell wrote. Diversity is unity and this is what? Unity in diversity. It's freaking Dorwell! He's quoting Dorwell! How did they do this and get away with it? And not one media outlet picks it up? You know you're sitting there in the sauna, right? With their fat bellies and their dicks hanging down laughing about this shit. You know they're just sitting there like, ha ha, Medjedevjev, you are funny. You make funny. This is a good one. Let's see if anyone picks up on this little joke.

CHAPTER 23 / 26 Discussion

No Agenda Producer Donations and HR 13350

The hosts acknowledge financial support from "producers," including a $250 donation from Jeff Wolfers and a $133.50 contribution from a listener named Ayla. The specific amount of $133.50 is jokingly linked to a 1954 House Resolution regarding the Atomic Energy Act.

donations· jeff wolfers· atomic energy act· producers· funding

1:11:36 That's pathetic. Alright, well I'm sure our listeners will get a kick out of it. In fact, if our listeners do get a kick out of it, we wouldn't mind getting a kick back from them. Yes. We do have a number of high-roller financiers, producers that I want to mention from last week. uh... fifty dollar and a hundred dollar donors uh... malcolm blair fifty martin fast sue one hundred christopher mall me brandon ro roles are old w e l s fifty dollars and two cents you want to give us two cents for fifty dollars and two cents okay at ten million all right and kevin will be back with kevin webb a hundred thank you kevin

1:12:26 Ayla, uh, Asha... Asha... Oh, man. ashok and shahda i should and ashida we that's it as you know uh... yeah as h a d a d a dash about it has got to be a tennis i like i a y l a gave us uh... i'm sure she's in some uh... actually look up her country should uh... cushion i'd like to do that you forgetting uh... she gave us a hundred thirty three dollars and fifty cents which i assume it is probably a uh... you know something that came out. What's the amount again? $133.50. Oh that's got to be a house resolution. Oh it could be. $133.50. Oops. Daniel Harbold, $50. Griffin Meineke. I just love the name Meineke. I think Meineke is a car company. Mineke HR 13350. Was it 13350? Yeah.

1:13:29 A bill to authorize appropriations to the Energy Research and Development Administration in accordance with section 216 of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954. Now I think it's a stretch, John. I don't think that's... It is a stretch. Anyway, Griffin Meinike gave us 60. Oh, nice. We liked the 60. Mike Potter gave us 50 and then our big contributor this week was Jeff Wolfers. W-O-L-F-E-R-S and he gave us a whopping $250 and we really appreciate that. Thank you very much Jeff, appreciate it. He just keeps us on the air for another week. A whole other week. You know what I'm doing though? I'm going to take some of my portion of the donations and I'm going to buy more gold.

CHAPTER 24 / 26 Discussion

Survival Kits and Red Cross Emergency Preparedness

A discussion on economic instability leads to advice on purchasing gold and storable food. One host reviews a Red Cross survival kit purchased for two people, noting the absurdity of it containing only one face mask, and jokes about the Mormon tradition of storing a year's worth of food.

survival kit· red cross· mormons· gold· emergency food· storable food

1:14:15 Now that this diversity and unity coin has come out, you've got to expect people to move towards gold. So I think that's going to be very important. And I'm also going to purchase at least six months worth of storable food because I think we're getting within a year or two of something happening. Yeah, I have a better solution for that. What's that? If you've ever been in the mailing list business, you would appreciate this. Well, you know the Mormons, I think their religion requires them to store in their basements a year's worth of food. And so what you want to do is you want to rent the mailing list for something and just rent the Mormon list.

1:14:56 and then find out where all the local Mormons are and then loot them. Oh, okay, and loot them. The opinions of John C. Dvorak are not necessarily the opinions of all of the hosts of No Agenda. Now, I'm going to buy some storable food and keep it for myself. You know what's funny? Mickey bought a... she went to the Red... which is right around the corner from us... she went to the Red Cross office and she bought a survival kit She said, you know, we should probably have one of these and she said after the fact that I should have bought one for 36 people but she bought the one for two people because it's two of us, right? So I'm looking in this survival kit and when I'm back in San Fran, I get back Monday, so the show on Thursday, I will actually go through the contents of this Red Cross survival pack because it will do anything but help us survive. The funniest thing though, it's a survival pack for two people. It includes only one face mask.

1:15:51 Yeah, well that's the way it is. If you have a child, put yours on first. It was for two people. If it's for two people, then shouldn't you have two face masks in there? I mean, come on, what's the message? Well, I'm sorry, one of you has got to go. Anyway, I wanted to mention noagenda.squarespace.com to donate or dvorak.org.na to donate. By the way, somebody sent me a note on the chat room saying that United in Diversity is the official motto of the EU. Really?

CHAPTER 25 / 26 Discussion

European Union Motto and Russian Currency

A live fact-check confirms that "United in Diversity" is the official motto of the European Union, established around the year 2000. This adds context to President Medvedev's presentation of a world currency coin using a nearly identical phrase.

european union· united in diversity· dmitry medvedev· motto· google search

1:16:32 That's what he said. We have to look it up, but what he said So that would be EU dot int. I think is now wait. What is it? EU website let's look at that that could be but then why is it and they took it and why is that more pathetic but hold on the Russian guy is not a member of the EU is he is Russia member of the EU no no of course not so let's look at where's English e and gateway to the European Union and I don't see it. Well just type in the United in Diversity and then EU into Google and see what comes up. Okay. United in... Is it? No, it's Unity in Diversity. Hold on. Well, he said, yeah, that could be what's on the coin, but United apparently is what's in the EU thing. Let me look.

1:17:25 You look at United, I'm using... The UNIGLAS motto, United in Diversity, Delegation of the European Union, is the motto of the European Union. First came into use around the year 2000, was the first time officially mentioned, so and so and so and so. Yep. Okay, so then why is the Russian guy showing this? What's up with that? You said it's unity in diversity, it's different. Yeah, well in other words they got suckered into using a variation of the EU motto just to give it to us. One of those needling us in here. See what else we can pull on these boneheads. And then I would like to finally wind up my portion of the show with a story from central Gitmo nation east from the Netherlands which I will be leaving very soon.

CHAPTER 26 / 26 Discussion

Dutch Internet Surveillance and Show Sign-off

Dutch Justice Minister Ernst Hirsch Ballin announced that the government will use internet and travel records to create automatic alerts for profiling citizens. The show concludes with a teaser for a future segment on raw food restaurants and a final sign-off from the hosts.

ernst hirsch ballin· netherlands· profiling· surveillance· raw food· sign-off

1:18:06 The Minister of Justice, the Justice Minister Ernst Hirsch Ballin has said that well now that of course we have the legal right to keep all internet activity for half a year, we have all of you, all your base belong to us, we have your emails, your SMS's, we are now going to set up automatic alerts. So as an example, If someone travels to a country frequented by pedophiles, that will be an alert and they will be stopped and questioned. For your trip to the Philippines. I mean, come on! They're profiling, they're doing profiling and they're literally calling it profiling. Well, that's what they're doing. It's bank records, internet records, travel records. I gotta get the hell out of here.

1:19:03 Hey John, how long do you predict this show will be on the air? I mean really. Well if people keep giving us money we'll be on the air for years. But I'll tell you this much, there's a couple of things we still need to talk about. The bees. Will we ever really do that? Yeah we will. The bees and the bats. And the fungus killing these bats all over the place. That's not good. And also, I'm going to tease this for the Thursday show because we have to do it on Thursday, your food experience at a raw food restaurant. Yes. So until that time, coming to you from an undisclosed 17th century canal house crackpot command center in Gitmo Nation East, smack in the middle of it, I'm Adam Curry. And don't forget to go to noagenda.squarespace.com or dvorak.org slash NA. I'm in the Pacific Norwest, John C. Dvorak. We will talk to you again on Thursday right here on No Agenda.