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00:00 That must be a pesticide! Ah! Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Thursday February 28th 2019 and this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1116 This is no agenda Delivering shrinkage to your amygdala And broadcasting live from the capital of the drooling star state here in downtown Austin Tejas In the Clunio In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where there will be no Zephyr today I'm John C. DeVore What does that mean did we lose there's gonna be no Zephyr is this effort not riding today? Is it is it done. Is it closed shut is over and sold for today Wow Because of the snow pack between Sacramento and Truckee oh They can't clear it snow That's something new for you on the tracks

00:56 It's your climate change man get used to it. I'm happy. I'm here in Texas yeah, snowpiercer Texas is gonna be great when the when the ice age comes Great it'll be more amenable let's put it that way yes, you won't have those hot summers 45 degrees here again today This is cold for us that is cold Mm-hmm well what a day yesterday was I don't know about you? I had I'm just a video bonanza. Oh, you're just talking about the Cohen hearings? No! That's just part of it. I'm watching the Cohen hearing which was... well we'll get into it but okay and I'm watching I'm waiting at a certain point. Hold on before you continue

01:45 I don't know if you noticed this, but i did. Why were they playing the Cohen hearings on network tv gavel to gavel? Because we didn't want anyone to know that there was something happening in North Korea or sorry in Vietnam and then the other thing was The real kind of the guides to all this stuff is C-SPAN, and I pointed this out in a newsletter. Yes. C-SPAN ran it on C-SPAN 3 that's how much they thought of it At least it was on C-SPAN radio which is hard... No! I was thinking that would be the next step It was on C-SPAN radio but you'd be relegated to just that

02:24 Yeah, so I'm watching that and at a certain point. I'm just like well Maybe AOC will be interesting which he wasn't and then I get it a frantic text from Tina She's like OMG Alex Jones on Joe Rogan nine. I just sat there and laughed for a couple hours It was so fantastic did you catch any of that no? I got zero oh my goodness Alex Jones came on and he had a piece of paper And it was every nutty thing He's ever talked about every single one of them and he went into great detail to explain It was like four-and-a-half hours the whole pot. Just went on and on and on and on it was fantastic I'm sure that Rogan alienated a lot of his regular viewers, but man it was high no I don't know. It's just like yeah Yeah, yeah That's pretty much the way we see it too. Yeah, but he goes so fast

03:18 You know no one can figure out what he's doing. What do you say is all wound up? He had a little bit on 5g which uh, which I'll play for this just an example This was in the beginning it only got worse from here Your family none of us are gonna make it there's a post-human error coming the breakaway civilization The deal has been made It's not it's not the third dimension they've made freaking deals with interdimensional aliens okay um Okay, I've noticed the media never attacks you for that because that's the truth. Maybe this is true? I do not know this and we'll get into it okay. I just don't know this even these human pig hybrids By the way That was one thing that was interesting and he came up a couple of times

04:06 So he has these lawsuits against him for, I guess some of… is it emotional distress or slander? Harassment. About the Sandy Hook kids dying which he said… He always said that no one died at Sandy Hook And now his story is a little different. I don't have the clip because it was somewhere in that four, four and half hours but he said well you know because i live this stuff every single day It's so easy for me to kind of get into it and I'm just shooting from the hip You know I say stuff and its not always what I believe... What he just said here in this little bit at the beginning That's no my identity, thats not..I'm sorry the kids died at Sandy Hook He's really back peddling on that

04:51 In anticipation of the lawsuit, I think. Instead of Huawei, he says WAPO which I think is just as good. Trump for allowing 5G to come in! This is the new internet protocol? You know why they won't let China put in WAPO? What's WAPO? That's the big Chinese 5G. You're on fire today. No, it's the big 5G! Joe, Joe... The 5G! You're on fire. Remember how I told you there was a BBC article in 96 about human-animal hybrids with pigs and cows? It was that

05:44 Marijuana was necessary. God! So he, yeah I don't think I could take it but i think its funny though that Rogan is just enough off the kind of main you know he's just not into things enough where he would think 5G as the new internet standard. You know he didn't even, Rogan didn't even know that Governor of Virginia was the same, you know had just the day before the KKK blackface yearbook picture came out that he had done this whole bit about live birth babies who then would maybe be resuscitated depending on what the mother wanted and... He didn't even know that it happened A. And he didn't know it was the same guy

06:33 So yeah, and it made me think like wow you know we take a lot for granted what people do or don't know when we just talk. And I think... Well especially when they're major players like Rogan Yes You'd think he'd know that! And you'd think he'd know that 5G is the phone standard not an internet standard Right well he does a lot of stand-up shows He's got other things to do But he's not working 24 7 as stand up Yeah, he says most of his work is on this show and you think that just doing that show I don't think you're right. I think he does quite a lot of comedy shows He travels a lot for that and when you when you're traveling well yeah do when you're traveling your screwed like me Let me see but you can read the paper while you're on the plane You can meet the paper when you're sitting in the green room Yes

07:23 Yeah, it's fine. If he doesn't want to know these things as nobody here is that what he does not white people would listen to a show Let's do the show for the banter Friday March 15th March 22nd April 20th He's got a week in between so yeah, you could do better. You should have me on the show I've never been invited and heartbroken. They're not gonna get invited right now No, I know well maybe when my book comes out They'll get my publicist to book me on the show. Yeah, okay. And of course I have my phone ringing for some unknown reason why don't you fill while i go hang up on these phonies? Well I'd rather listen to what you're going to say to the phonies that seems a little more interesting no okay and we're all alone people so I'm just going to suggest that the next topic will be the Oscars

08:17 And I wonder if John has any clips from the Oscars. I certainly don't because i thought the show was boring and of course, I didn't say anything as it was just you know It says wireless caller or something like they just hang up Did you take it off? The hook did you take the horn off? Yes Only you can do that Well, I think we should talk a little bit about it. And for one thing there was this semi-scandal about who they left off the Of the, of the in memorial. Yeah there was quite a few big names and I love that segment! That's my favorite...of any award show. Cause you sit there and go- Well they made the biggest stink out of Stanley Donan who did Singing In The Rain and a bunch of other major movies but he died just before this show so ya know their gonna put him on the next show But also Miss was producer, and this is from Variety Arnold Copleson

09:16 He won the best picture for Oliver Stone's platoon. He also did Fugitive, The Drill Sergeant, Arlie Ermey From he was from full metal jacket. He wasn't in there and also that the Short the midget Vern Troyer Verne mini me yeah, he wasn't listed. I doesn't count it wasn't racist Racist against little people Gary Kurtz Carol Channing Carol Channing That was a surprise major name Yeah So then so I started looking at some of the people they did put on

09:55 And I'm gonna name a few, and I want you to tell me what they... Well first of all they had for example on the list was Glen Campbell who i never thought of as a movie guy. He did one big movie didn't he? Well if he did one big thing Gary Kurtz should have been on it! Oh yeah well I'm not arguing Jake LaMotta Wow they missed him?! No they put him on! They put him on! When they put him on he's a boxer! I'm sure he was in a boxing movie no Who handles this? Liz Smith from page six. Yeah, she's dead. Damn it! That's kind of the opposite of what I would say. Okay let me tell you something, I'm going to name some names and then you tell them what they did that was so important they have to be on this list okay and i don't want to demean any these people i'm sorry they're not around anymore but

10:50 You don't mean that. Don't lie, you don't care. Barry Goldberg. No idea. Casting director. Here's my all time favorite one Mike Mandel of the Mandel sisters? Dolly grip. Hey, that's an important role man! Well does every dolly grip anyone who has ever been a dolly grip or a grip or gaffer should they be on this list? Only the important ones. Robert Glickman Yeah I think he deserves to be on the list. The lighting engineer. Richard Scott Worked with him alot. Richard Scott Yeah worked with him Publicist Oh I didn't work with him

11:37 Now, here's my favorite one which is Rodolfo Spagnoni. Catering? He was a documentary subject in the documentary called El Diqua by Corrado Franco. He was the subject... It was a study of the homeless in Italy or something and this one guy was the main character, wasn't really an actor never really been in the business didn't know what was going on but he got listed. So what is your point? Robert Marta camera operator You act so diminutive about the... No I don't! I love the camera operators i'm just saying if you're gonna leave out a major producer why would you... Yeah but what do you care?! Does anyone really care? And they'll give me this photo who they brought on to do presenting Here's the thing

12:29 Do we really need to analyze this show that is just irrelevant? I mean half the winners are from Netflix anyway. It's not about movies What was John Lewis doing on this show well John Lewis was and this is the interesting part for all the grief that Green Book got because of course it's racist and this is exactly what we predicted, that the Millennials hate this movie. They hate Bohemian Rhapsody John Lewis was an advisor a technical advisor on Green Book yet I didn't see... Oh yeah? Now the Millennials are racists! Of course they are What was Serena Williams doing on the show She's awesome

13:15 She's the compa... I do not suck! So let's put, let's put the only clip i got is Trevor Noah who came out with his little he did a bit and I don't know what he was doing on this show either. He never made an appearance. Well no yes he was a voice in um Black Panther he was a voice of something. Oh, okay well that's definitely qualified I know too much about this! I don't know what's going on Yeah there is something wrong with you So uh... He comes on and does kind of funny sketch And then does this little twist back thing Which got a lot attention by the trades and other media Because it was..I thought it was racist insult But okay let's play the clip Please welcome Trevor Noah

14:12 Black Panther may be an African hero, but his story and his appeal are universal. I know this personally because of all the people who constantly come up to me and say Wakanda forever! Everywhere in the world, my African friends are like Wakanda forever. In France I've had people say hello Trevor Noah you say Wakanda forever no even backstage Mel Gibson came up to me like Wakanda forever he said another word after that but the Wakanda part was nice growing up as a young boy in Wakanda I would see King T'Challa flying over our village and he would remind me of a great Hossa phrase

14:53 Abelungo, abayazu bandiakoka. Which means in times like these we are stronger when we fight together than when we try to fight apart This is Best Picture nominee Black Panther All right So you know the gag right? No Oh I'm glad you don't know it I don't know the gag so that little cosa phrase he said at the end actually translated to Whites won't know i'm lying Really?! Yeah How nice of him yeah, and I'm sure Mel Gibson also sent him some cupcakes this morning Geez yeah well. Yeah, you know it's I just don't see the relevance that ratings weren't too bad actually no they went up Which means your hosts suck? I like that part. I think host do suck I mean ever since you know Carson was okay as a host and that was about it hmm

15:51 Let's see, so we had all the anger over Green Book. It was Spike Lee who got all pissed off which is if you've ever lived in New York... Hello it's Spike Lee that's what he does! The other thing I should mention is at the beginning when they started off with the...I thought it was odd- I didn't think this show got of to a good start with the uh... I liked the way they presented the song from Queen with Adam Lambert who I think is a really outstanding singer. He did the musical, I think Yeah, yeah. He's good at the beginning they started off But I thought it was off-putting because they did so many shots of the audience and you saw these middle aged farts You know jerking around And clapping and going their arms back and forth and doing the boogie in the middle in the audience standing up I just look at these people cuz they're all the first few rows are just a most rich kind of

16:47 isolated celebrities in the world and the way they're jerking around like they're part of the scene, you know. They're like they're in a beatnik club, you know, in the 50s or who knows what? I think that...I think you've hit on it! It just grossed me out You know, we're at a tipping point. We're right at the edge is not gonna be too many That's why I watch the in memoriam segment. I mean look at Brian May and Roger Taylor from Queen I know Roger Tate. I know I know Brian may these guys looked like out what they got one foot in the grave you know with the with it really white white gray hair And then the audience has the same these old people They gotta go which just kind of think New Hollywood is just waiting for these people to croak move on

17:33 Move on. I read a new complaint about Bohemian Rhapsody, bad- by the way A lot of people were wondering why it got best editing because I thought it was kind of a messy movie myself But then I thought about like oh yeah This is the one that Bryan Singer directed you know 70% of and then they had to bring in somebody else he got kicked off for being a creep and being a creep in the past than just being a creep And so some poor editor who won the Oscar had to stitch all that stuff together. So I think that was kind of an inside Hollywood deal saying, oh man you really deserve this even though it wasn't the best editing in my opinion

18:15 Of course, I'm not a member of the Academy. But the big problem was in the movie... Well you would just to stop you there this is also an note of encouragement because this sort of thing can happen at any time and they have to bring in a pro to stitch things up yeah And this is saying hey we will give you an award if you do this. Oh good point! It's a thankless chore If you come in and save the day Yeah and save the purse Well, all of this... I think Bohemian Rhapsody got the most awards. I don't think so. I thought Black Panther got one extra award. They get all these makeup awards and those sorts of things. But the community

18:59 is up in arms about the Bohemian Rhapsody movie because it does not correctly depict Freddie Mercury as being bisexual and The gall of doing that in the awards week which fell on the same week as bisexual awareness week What? Bisexual awareness week? There's a lot there's a lot of people in this means you gotta keep you got to keep looking at back behind You all the time. What's the deal with this bisexual awareness had to be worried about bisexual jumping ya, there's a lot Yeah There's a lot of people In the community who feel that bisexuality is not a thing. That you don't really belong in the LGBTQ or the LGBTQIAPK. Yeah, yeah it's exactly right! You're just an opportunist. The...yeah exactly! You can't have it both ways

19:49 Yeah, an opportunist. Precisely. Opportunism weak! So yeah you know let's... it's kind of over now I guess no one is talking about the Oscars anymore It's done we just do it out of politeness We had to because we said we would Correct Okay did you get anything from Cohen? Because I kind of learned from Cohen. Oh really? Okay, good. All short. Good! I knew you would just a couple little deals here and there nothing really great Let's just explain let's explain because i did learn a few things we set it up this is Michael Cohen he was the president's personal lawyer he is the one that uh would he's a fixer so we take care of stuff and he paid off Stormy Daniels and the McDougal woman

20:33 And, interestingly—now that I really looked at it and listened to him and looked at some analysis—he has been convicted of five counts of tax fraud. That's his...and bank fraud. That's his main crime. But he out of the goodness of his heart, he confessed to the crime of campaign finance violations, which is interesting he did that because no one ever goes to jail for campaign finance violations. What typically happens is you get a fine and you have to return the money. That's happened with every president every election that's happened yes? Obama did that but it turns out if you listen to the Napolitano types in these right-wingers

21:19 The he's for his violation wasn't illegal. It wasn't a Exactly that's my point He didn't have to commit to that he didn't have to do that, but it is obvious why he did He did it to make Trump look bad. And rule 35 of the Southern District of New York or whatever, if he cooperates which he said many times I'm here cooperating but that really was telling where there was no crime and didn't have to confess anything and wasn't being charged with it and so I admit to it I am done here I am lock me up now you kind

21:56 comes across as, oh I'm going to jail for being associated with the president's crimes. But it's really not his jail time is for bank fraud and tax evasion but that was the thing that i learned and other than that I learned that Putin's penthouse that everyone was so sure about Trump already hooked up Putin with a penthouse in the Trump Moscow Tower And there was Cohen saying, oh that was just a PR stunt. That was just to get people to sign up to be part of the residency And everything else... Well, there's some fun stuff. First of all let's play this introductory clip which is the gag order by one of the representatives Green and he was irked about the fact that apparently they had a... There were only few things they could talk about it was all outlined so he's gonna bust them on this and grouse about it. Thank you Mr Chairman, Ranking Member Jordan

22:56 The chairman and this committee have promised members of the American people a fair and open process, yet the Democrats have vastly limited the scope of this hearing. They've issued a gag order to try to tell members of this committee what we can and cannot talk about My colleagues on the other side of the aisle claim that they want the truth, that they want transparency and fair oversight. Yet the Democrats' witness to testify before Congress today is none other than a scorned man who's going to prison for lying to Congress Let that sink in He's going to prison for lying to Congress and he's the star witness to Congress If you read the sentencing report on Mr. Cohen, words like deceptive and greedy are scattered throughout that report it paints a picture of a narcissist, a bully who cannot tell the truth whether it's about the president or about his own personal life but today he is the majority party star witness

23:53 So that was his little complaint. But this whole thing, that was kind of the theme of the Republican side but let's see we just a few details there is 12 second clip left it isn't very short this is hearing on his book deal. Okay As a platform for you to continue to lie and sensationalize and exaggerate wherever it suits you Do you plan to pursue another book deal about your experiences? Yes That came up a couple times. Will you will you promise not to sell your stories like no Hello Yeah, that was made pretty obvious You know he'll spend some time on the inside but at least he's got something to come home too

24:33 Yeah, yeah book deal. So he also in this hearing which I thought was the funniest part is he took credit Jordan actually asked him a couple of times about this. He took credit for Trump being the president Yes, he says that he invented the whole idea of a Trump presidency and then he said well you know Yeah maybe Trump thought about it in the past. He's always been thinking about it and Roger Stone takes more credit I mean everybody takes credit for this but this guy took all the credit And here's his little explanation This is uh... I got it. This is from trumprunk dot com Yeah. Wow! 2011 was my idea I saw a document in the newspaper that said who would you vote for in 2012?

25:15 6% of people said Michael Cohen, 6% of the people turned around and said they'd vote for Donald Trump. The reason Donald Trump is president because... So I brought it into his office and I said to him Mr. Trump take a look at this as well wouldn't that be great? And with that is where it all started Yeah okay like but I'm sure he had never thought anything like that until you came No I didn't say that Hey tell me that you didn't listen to this hearing and from time-to-time think to yourself Shit, he sounds just like Andrew Horowitz. It doesn't really oh there was a couple of couple of Intonations the way he said stuff. I'm like Horowitz

25:55 I don't know, man. It's just me. Just me. I didn't notice it. Horowitz does sound like one of those brokers who calls you up and- Hey! You want to get rich? Do you want to leave your wife? Horowitz can do that voice. He does a lot of voices. Yeah. He is a great Bernie but he does have the voice of the guy which is ... In fact, they talked to one of these guys on the phone once because I wasn't going to buy anything so I started discussing with him his style of sales which was pretty hard to deal with these guys because they were on a deadline And he says the common it there's a kind I got this from all these years. We're talking about guys who call you Hey, you want to buy some stock? Yeah It goes like this Do you wanna get rich do you let leave your fucking wife rich you like it do you by stocks and bonds you wanna get rich

26:46 It's pretty close. Right? Apparently it's a combination of Brooklyn and Boston accent that is the absolute best. And that sells, baby! It sells. So here's the, now there's a thing about the inaugural which you talked about the Lib Joes believe that something about the inaugural. Yeah they think that because this would be the emoluments clause? Well we don't know because nobody seems to get it straight! There was one democrat who came and asked about the inaugural about gouging. Overcharging, overcharging, gouging. Overcharging at the hotel which is gouging but... But it didn't go anywhere and it didn't give me any information. We might as well play this short clip, this is a hearing inaugural question. The rental that was being quoted was substantially even double what you would expect to pay according to what the market should bear and

27:39 So in a sense the Trump Hotel was upcharging to the inaugural. Even I couldn't afford to stay there. Yeah, and so I'm just curious do you have a sense of whether that kind of practice is something that is consistent or inconsistent? Is it possible that kind of up charging could be done inside a Trump operation It did happen, but it's the American way bro and Stay in a hotel during a convention Yeah Or go to Vegas during a convention what I can say to you is. I wasn't part of the inaugural committee I raised a lot of money for the inauguration But I was not part of it and there was

28:25 A lot of things and that actually, that issue is something that's also obviously we've read about in the paper being investigated at the current moment. Thank you Mr Higgins? Ah jeez So what exactly would the idea be The money was raised It wasn't government money so where is the violation Oh here's what I don't know but I'm gonna tell ya what I think Okay It's based on, you know just speculation. And expertise and experience? Well it would go like this...it was like a golf club scam that the Japanese yakuza run

29:04 You set up the thing and you want to send some bribes over to the president. So we're going to rent you this suite at The Trump Hotel, it's normally $1,000 because it is so crowded. We are going to give it for $10,000. The President will be very happy." Okay, so that's pretty much DC politics. I still don't see anything out of the ordinary. Yeah, emoluments clause baby! So Schultz was on and she's just a slimeball. Oh, Debbie Wasserman yeah! Yeah so here's her little thing I kind of ended it when she kind of flubbed but she has this meme she keeps promoting and it was promoted by Nora O'Donnell on CBS when Nora O'Donnell says oh and then Debbie Wasserman Schultz spoke and I don't have this clip I wish I did and Nora says she was the head of Democratic National Committee and was ousted by the Russian leaks

30:06 No, how about she was ousted for screwing Bernie Sanders and trickery? No no. Not according to Norse. She was ousted because of the Russian leaks I'm sorry And so we have this same Russian leak meme that Schultz herself promotes and i guess she's buddies cause she said...I think she is in New York A lot. I mean, she's from Florida but she is in New York a lot because one of our... we have people who see her and she is in New York a lot so this is her promoting the same bull crap theme that it was all the Russians fault that she's not the head of the DNC As you likely know, I served as chair at Democratic National Committee at time of Russian hacks

30:47 and when Russia weaponized the messages. And by the way, these are only indictments? These Russia hacks? You know this has not been proven in a court of law This is only based upon Mueller's indictment I don't think there has ever been any conclusive trial over this There is no proof All the proof leads to it was stolen by Seth... Seth Rich That it had stolen But I want to be clear My questions are not about the harm done to any individual. As you likely know, I served as the chair of the Democratic National Committee at the time of the Russian hacks and when Russia weaponized the messages that it had stolen but i want to be clear

31:31 My questions are not about the harm done to any individual. By WikiLeaks and the Russians, it's about the possible and likely harm to the United States of America and our democracy. I have a series of questions that I hope will connect more of these dots Mr. Cohen, is it your testimony that Mr Trump had advanced knowledge of the Russia WikiLeaks release to the DNC's emails? I cannot answer that in a yes or no he had advance notice that there was going to be a dump of emails but at no time did i hear the specificity of what those e-mails were going to be But you do testify today that he had advanced knowledge of their imminent release

32:15 That is what I had stated in my testimony. And that he cheered that outcome? Yes, ma'am Did Mr Trump likely share this information with his daughter Ivanka son Don Jr or Jared Kushner? Lock him up! I'm not aware of that Was Ivanka, Jared or Don Jr still involved in the Russian tower deal at that time The company was involved in the deal which meant that the family was involved in the deal If Mr. Trump and his daughter Ivanka, and son Donald Jr., are involved in the rump... You should have let it go a little longer because she laughed at herself for saying rump I know i let her, she actually snapped out of it after that little snicker at the end Yeah She's laughed, would've but the laugh was mostly physical yeah okay thats possible But thought it was funny Rump Now something else about this clip

33:08 First of all, the Democrats—I can just say in this case the Democrats desperately want to get Ivanka and Jared and anybody they can from the family Don Jr. And Eric and I hope Kimberly Guilfoyle get everyone we have to talk to them! We have testify! And there was something else that she mentioned Oh, yes. So the story... I don't know if you have the clip of that? The story that Cohen told is that he was in Trump's office and Roger Stone called and Trump put him on speakerphone And Stone then said hey! BOTH! BOTH! The WikiLeaks are gonna drop it's gonna drop these emails and that was his testimony as to how he knows that Trump heard that directly from Roger Stone a couple things

34:01 From what I understand, this president not only does he not use email. Not only does he not text but i'm pretty sure he doesn't put Roger Stone on speakerphone! I don't think it puts anybody on speaker phone. I don't think Roger Stone would want himself to be on speaker phone certainly not with this news but In the line of questioning, it was you know the dates... Well I will say. Hold on! The timeline was that Trump knew about the WikiLeaks coming a week before it happened Yeah and we did yes exactly WikiLeaks was tweeting it for a month yeah there's being tweeted at month earlier yeah I know this is a part that was real head-scratcher because nobody

34:46 Not one of the Republicans mentioned this that I can think of. I will say that Cohen claims that Trump only uses speakerphone No, he said he used it quite frequently Okay. Well now cuz I listen to that like no, I know I don't think he's talking shit with a guy look again What a waste of time? No the whole thing and you wasted network time now Could have had good Seinfeld repeats anything I had one other clip by the illegal recordings that he did Did I didn't think that was then not that interesting is not a clip we have to play but

35:22 I do have the some of the end of this. It's the only clip i have The end of the whole thing? Yeah, the cummings yes it is the only one that i have That's okay we'll play your version This doesn't go all the way to the end just goes through the part that we thought was interesting that our producers thought was interesting Well then let me play my clip its about 20 seconds longer because it literally at the end A better Donald Trump a better United States of America and a better world. And I mean that from the depths of my heart, when we're dancing with the angels, the question will be asked in 2019 what do we do to make sure we kept our democracy intact? Did we stand on the sidelines and say nothing

36:08 Did we play games? And I'm tired of these statements saying, people come in here and say oh this is the first hearing. It is not the first hearing! The first hearing was what we regard to prescription drugs remember a little girl, a lady said there Ms Wortham her daughter died because she could not get $333 dollars a month That was our first hearing. Second hearing, HR 1 voting rights corruption in government come on now we can do more than one thing and we have got to get back to normal with that this meeting is adjourned.

37:01 Yeah, we hear you Cummings come on now. You know what Obama used to say all the time ling though Oh well it's signaling this is the end and there's more to come a this bullcrap It's like thanks for your attention no agenda people just wasted 18 hours of your time That's what it signaled yeah, it's you know at what point will the News-consuming public just gets so tired of it It cannot last. They couldn't even do it with the damn airplane and that thing still was never found. Yeah, an airplane! They had to give up. I mean they went on for a year at least just about an airplane every single day. Well they did. I remember when Reynolds was the guy...I can't remember his first name very famous broadcaster

37:51 was the Reynolds anyway, he used to do nightline before Coppola came along and Reynolds they did nightline people at ABC decided that when the hostage crowd I remember watching this the hostage crisis took place in 1979 when their Iranians stole our diplomats and tore down our embassy in Tehran. And They started this campaign, we're gonna broadcast exclusively about this until it's resolved. And it was the end of him as a broadcaster because they promised that they were going to broadcast about this exclusively until it was over and about six months into

38:39 It wasn't going to be over anytime soon. Nobody was doing much about it, these poor people were stuck over there and they showed the ratings were going through the tank and everything... They had to fire him and bring in Ted Koppel pretty much just that this kind of in a condensed form but that's what happened And so the public only puts up with stuff for if they put up with something for six months I think it's a miracle Well this has been a little bit longer than that is just kept on going Well, I think what you're talking about the airplane or you're talking about this Trump's Trump stuff. Yeah All of that right? I hope so. I like to see what the ratings were for this dola's daytime stuff Oh, it's gotta be horrible No, I can't it can have been it couldn't have been any good no way To the gate

39:34 Well, we are here in Climate Gateland. Hey by the way... Yeah? They're packing them in with US superstars coming to the S-South by Southwest When is this? I believe it's April. Huh Why It's gonna be a mess. It's always a mess There's nothing new there Well, we've finally done it John We hit the gold standard Oh okay good The Gold Standard And this was big news for about an hour until Trump tweeted something else. We now know that the confidence that human activities are raising the heat at Earth's surface have reached a five sigma level. Uh-oh, excuse me! Five sigma level?

40:31 In case you were wondering, that is a statistical gauge meaning there is only one in a million chance that signal would appear if there was no warming. This is the gold standard previously applied in 2012 to confirm the discovery of the Higgs-Boson subatomic particle. You know when they tried to create the black hole for us all to die in? Yeah... failed So this is it! They've played their last card And this is going to be very worrying because now they're saying not only is it 97% of all scientists, which I actually think I saw this morning of all climate researching scientists. Someone was backtracking that. That's no good. It's closer to the truth So now it's not 97%. This is 99 point nine nine nine nine nine percent certain that they are right! That humans are causing global warming. Who made this determination?

41:32 This is Oslo. What governing body? Nature Climate Chain, oh wait I'm sorry who are these people called? Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California. Lawrence Livermore Labs made this proclamation yes or some guy from it what do you mean did some guy from the labs yeah here's the guy luckily here's the guy here the guys name is Luckily, I have friends within this organization. Oh good! I'm sure they listen to the show all the time. I'm sure they don't. Yeah lead author Benjamin Santer or Santer lead author of the study how do you spell his name? S-A-N-T-E-R Benjamin Santa but the news came out of Oslo so i guess they have some institute there with

42:30 to be coming out of Livermore. I hear you, but this is not just one place these are the top gold standard scientists from all over the globe and they all agree 99.99999% 1 in a million could they be wrong? One in a million chance! Now that's crazy can't even think about it they're just right shut up It's all over And one of our producers Ah this where he came from Where East Anglia Doesn't get much better than that does it Perfect perfect the p-value guys yeah, we know all about them

43:14 And one of our producers sent us a nice note and he does video production. In fact, he says that the production that I was so wowed by in what was it? The Samsung Galaxy 10 5G with that said it's crazy they had was better than an Apple event So he says that his company produced that and they also produce this like awareness teaching center Nuclear facilities where kids and class can go in and learn about nuclear energy. And he mentioned that when he was making this exhibit, which is pretty elaborate hands on stuff, it's one of those things kids do a field trip to.

43:56 When he was putting that together, the company that had hired his company said well you really should look at the persuasion of this woman...this girl Severin Suzuki in Rio. Now this was 1992 This is one we're just getting started with climate change but also a great moment in history of abusing kids to present a message I'm just gonna play a minute of it because as I was listening to what this kid is saying, it's the same thing you hear from the starlight movement or not Starlight the Sunrise Movement the AOC Green New Deal kids It's all exactly the same but she had this one little bit in here that made me think for a sec at school even in kindergarten You teach us how to behave in the world. You teach us about

44:46 to not fight with others, to work things out. To respect others, to clean up our mess Not hurt other creatures, to share not be greedy Then why do you go out and do the things that you tell us not to do? Do not forget why you are attending these conferences, who you're doing this for. We are your own children You are deciding what kind of a world we are growing up in Parents should be able to comfort their children by saying everything's going to be alright It's not the end of the world We're and we're doing the best we can but I don't think you can say that to us anymore Are we even on your list of priorities? My dad always says you are what you do not what you say Well, what you do makes me cry at night. You grown-ups a you love us But I challenge you please Make your actions reflect your words Thank you so

45:48 I think of all the kid didn't write that no of course not as i said it was the first you know a good moment in time of child abuse for you know for political means but what i find interesting is that in today's age where every kid has you know is connected, not every kid but most kids are connected they're going to start and see through the game because this kid is right You teach your kids be nice, be kind to other human beings, be kind animals. But meanwhile all they see all day is the shit show that is the real world It's on Twitter! I mean it's like this is not a surprise so when you have politicians Like the gray-haired ones we've been talking about no different from the people of The Academy Awards who for decades have been using fear mongering

46:35 It's paying off, but you're in trouble now because now we have only 12 years left to live. We're going to die. Children don't even want to have children anymore because of the reports, the hype, the hyperbole just that constant verbal diarrhea with fear mongering that my generation, you know like and okay you John your generation didn't dry it during drop and cover, you know like, we've seen... We know what this is. But today's generation it's working on them! And I have some expanded clips from the short one you might have seen. Which by the way this generation I think probably extends into the Millennials Yes, I would agree They're all so proud of themselves for being and I was told this when they were even my kids were younger quote-unquote we're immune

47:27 Joe advert home I got know they may be immune to advertising but their their info gates are wide open to messaging and it's just slipping right in and then you get results. And the results don't stick in some classroom where teacher says no shut up or sit down whatever now. It's encouraged you have everyone's in on the game. In fact we got a note here from one of our kids Yes, ruin or one of our teachers and because we were talking about that is saying You can't just take the day off teachers just can't do this and And this teacher is producer Nathan, it's okay to use his name. I'll just read his notes. So I've emailed a few times about education conversations and wanted to drop a note about the Sunrise people in student protests The fact that teachers skip school with their students is ridiculous The teacher either doing this illegally or with the permission of the administrator Either way its beyond the scope to say the least

48:23 I teach in one of the most liberal schools in Washington State, which is saying something. And I would never be allowed to skip school with my students to fulfill some kind of political agenda. As teachers we are legally liable for their protection and physical well-being." I also need to tell you a quick story because I think you'll enjoy this. I teach high school biology and thankfully I do my job well. I teach my kids to calm down not to worry about the environment and things they can't control. I had a student interrupt me and ask, Do you believe in climate change? I looked at her and just decided, I'm tired of giving an F. So I said no! I don't believe...I don't need to believe anything climate is not a religion which i think it's great answer by the way if someone says do you believe in climate change? No! It's not a religion The next day in my science meeting one of the other teachers waited for quite moment and asked in front all the other teachers Nathan I heard from student that you don't believe in global warming can that be true

49:22 I just looked at him and said, yes it's true. The room paused everyone looked at me with shock another teacher said explain which i responded with no! I quietly packed my stuff and said I knew this would happen and I didn't appreciate it and walked out The first teacher followed me to my room to ask more questions where I ripped into him about how unprofessional and immature he acted. Believe it or not, he ended up apologizing the next day and agreed that he had overstepped. I share that with you because there are crazy teachers but there are plenty of us standing for truth! I work hard to teach my students... Twenty-one! Well, we got here is. I work hard to teach my students about the realities of this world and take a positive approach The vast majority of teachers are simply teaching what is given to them The real issue is Pearson review and higher ed Yeah no kidding It's all in the system my friend

50:19 So anyway, so we have these kids who have been indoctrinated and they're really believing it. And it's not hard to believe you're going to die if that's all you hear your entire life... To this day! And then obviously whether she is sincere or not when you have AOC jumping into the mix and confirming it It's only going to get worse. Our planet is going to... This is an, uh she did an Instagram a length cooking Instagram you know the kind that Elizabeth Warren only dreams of She's making chili which she made with sweet potato Which I don't think belongs in Chile Might be some sort of Puerto Rican thing or something? I'm not sure I've never heard of it. It could be cubes Probably does not belong there but it might be good Worth asking

51:08 So here she is. Our planet is going to think disaster if we don't turn the ship around and so it's basically like there's scientific consensus that the lives of children are gonna be very difficult and It does lead This is a great new twist instead of saying their scientific Consensus that humans are heating up the planet with our with it You know with cow farts in our own farts and talking like on a podcast playing trouble She says That there's scientific consensus kids aren't going to have it easy. There's no scientific consensus about that little twist Yes, very very smart little move

51:48 that the lives of children are going to be very difficult and... Let me roll it back. Our planet is going to think disaster if we don't turn this ship around, and so it's basically like there's scientific consensus that the lives of children are going to be very difficult and it does lead I think young people to have a legitimate question you know should Is it okay to still have children? If you have a chance, go back and look at that video where she says this line. The way she says it, the way she tilts her head. There is something about it that looks like she's been trained to do this professionally It was just one of the best glances I've ever seen her make Almost like saying those you in-the know You know what I'm doing But if wasn't quite that If you can see it take a look at it And not only financially because

52:46 People are graduating with twenty, thirty, a hundred thousand dollars worth of student loan debt and so they can't even afford to have kids in a house but also just this basic moral question like what do we do and even if you don't have kids there are still children here in the world and we have a moral obligation to them. To leave a better world for them, and this idea that I've been working on this for X amount of years... Bullshit! What do mean x amount of years? She was a waitress. A bartender. Half. No, okay I guess thank you. X it's really the x. You're right x but you're right damn it um It's like not good enough like we need a universal sense of urgency and people are trying to like introduce

53:34 Watered down proposals that are frankly going to kill us We're going to die a lack of urgency is going to kill us it doesn't matter this is you If she doesn't mean this, it's extremely irresponsible. She is the leader of the new voting public! She's telling them they're going to die I will have to switch my disdain from Dianne Feinstein to AOC if she keeps this crap up. If you agree that climate change is an important issue at this point It doesn't matter

54:11 If you believe climate change is a problem, that's not even the issue. The issue is how urgently you feel we need to fix it." Alright so then she's doing this Instagram and people ask questions or maybe there was a periscope and tell her what is the Green New Deal? Tell us! Yeah everyone I'm making chili... Oh wait Someone said please explain the Green New Deal Thank you for asking So the whole premise of the Green New Deal Is that we're screwed I'm climbing like, i'm sorry to break it to you if we do nothing

54:49 There is no hope. Period! That's just a principle across the board. And that's just a principle across the board, if you do nothing there is no hope period. If we do not act... There is no hope. Principle Across The Board. Across The Board baby it's a principle across the board I've never heard this expression I like it. ...across the board. If we do not act there is no hope. The only time we can hope is when we act but when it comes to climate in particular We're actually screwed. There is a global threat to the planet, a global threat and At this point we don't even have to prove it just walk outside in winter in a lot of places And it's either way worse than you're used to or Way warmer than your used to I like how crap I like how cold is worse and warmer is just warmer

55:40 Instead of it's either way worse or it's way worse. So what is it? In this case, you know I've been here longer than she has on the globe and I've been in an area Probably too long so I really used to its changes over the years and the fact that it snowed in 1972 and I'm not seeing anything that these people are talking about. It doesn't exist, they're deluded! I can look out the window and there's the mud flats that have been here for over a hundred years not one inch extra of water it's just like...I can see why everybody can't just notice that you know it's almost like people come to San Francisco and they're here for like or Bay Area they're here for like I don't know

56:29 Maybe four or five years. Even after four or five years, every July 4th when the fog rolls in and ruins the fireworks which it does every year and it has been doing that every year forever they say oh god this is terrible! It's getting worse! No no I can't believe how cold it is in July Martin Twain talked about being cold in July in the 1800s Hey how about the guy then? the 18 early 1800s who went to California and wrote about the fire and the brimstone is hell on earth Burning down but but AOC is saying something I think the truth wants to come out or maybe she's just an idiot which I don't think I know you think it so I'll say before he should do she says You can prove it to yourself. Just go outside It's either way worse Or warmer

57:20 Implying that global cooling, which I think is really upon us is way worse than global warming. She doesn't say both are bad. Prove it just walk outside in winter and a lot of places and it's either way worse than you're used to or Way warmer than you're used to Hurricanes storms wildfires we are dying now Oh my God, this woman. Be careful though she is so hated and so it irks Fox News right wing everybody so much. I understand what you're saying. Not to you. Luckily i'm not worried about it because the Democrat party will take care of her they can't put up with this well she's off message

58:10 She's not on the team. Let's listen to presidential hopeful Kamala Harris regarding the Green New Deal, see if she is on message. You cast yourself as a campaign trail of truth seller you say we need to tell truths. What do you say or let me know if this is fair that I should talk to democratic voters they're hungry? and they want ideas. And so you'll hear things like the Green New Deal, you'll hear things like Medicare for All or whether it's taxes... At what point do you say that's our North Star but we have to be realists? There's no question we have to be practical. But being practical also recognizes that climate change is an existential threat to us as human beings, being practical recognizes that greenhouse gas emissions are threatening our air and it's threatening the planet and that is well within our capacity as human beings to change our behaviors in a way that we can reduce its effects. That's practical. Can we afford it?

59:07 Of course we can afford it. Two and a half, three trillion dollars per year for Medicare-for-all by some studies depending on which portions of the Green New Deal you pick to do first that's money You know what the Republicans are going to say tax and spend liberals pie in the sky One of things I admire is the measurement captured in three letters ROI What's the return on investment? People in private sector understand this really well It's not about cost but about investment And then the question should be, is it worth the cost in terms of the investment potential? Are we going to get back more than what we put in? So when Mayor Bloomberg, Amy Klobuchar and some of your fellow Democrats say

59:47 No, it's too much. It's too ambitious. It's too expensive you think they're wrong I look forward to that debate on the debate stage. I look forward to it very much Okay We'll see how you do on that debate stage but she takes the financial route and this was discussed only Only like five weeks ago at a thing with Stanford University Bill Gates was there for there was the portable regeneration, no it's like something like portable energy conference. It doesn't matter but he was the main guest one of those sitting on stage two chairs Kara Swisher type deal and he really goes off on the current thinking which is the Kamala Harris thinking here and kind of steers the conversation quite abruptly and righteously towards nuclear

1:00:44 We have to remember he's a huge, huge investor. Yes! In nuclear so whatever he says is tainted. Well it's only... By the way before you play this clip I was thinking about this too All the anti-nuke stuff, we got some notes from one of our producers. He says you know these guys are boneheads in the nuke industry and we're talking... because I asked one guy well you have a number of people in the business Yes including Sir Rod Adams. And they were going to kill us. They're all befuddled by two things One China's building 71 nukes

1:01:25 We don't talk about that in this country and the media doesn't talk about it. They're all in, meanwhile France is shutting theirs down because they're stupid Germany shut their's down And Germany already shut theres down And so its almost as though theres propaganda thing maybe its run by the Chinese to screw us? This what Trump says about global warming he doesn't say anymore but he said it long time ago He was talking about financial scam Could be, but… And the reason I say that is because all – you can get into uranium stocks, mining stocks. Dirt cheap! No, hold on, hold on. It's a buyer's market. We got to go back to the origin of the problem, China syndrome.

1:02:14 We need to go to Three Mile Island, we have to look at Chernobyl and then you have to look at Fukushima. The same thing that has been happening with this climate change bullcrap has happened to nuclear. And if...and for...and to some degree people were rightfully worried about okay what happens with this stuff? Well and they'll stop ya again! What about guys like Alex Jones, who's on you know spending all his time on Rogan Show and doing this other thing. Who is a you know he seems like a reasonable guy about lot of this stuff? He sees anti-nuke. Oh I'm gonna be selling iodine pills because Fukushima is going to be washing up on the California shores! That's called the business model. Well it's pretty insincere if you ask me so I can't believe what word that guy says

1:03:01 Well, we have always been proponents of nuclear. We see the benefits and if you look at a real cost benefit analysis or SWOT analysis let's do that one strength weakness opportunity and threat Yeah, you know some of these old... Gates actually addresses this in this clip. So I'm just gonna let it play and then I have two of them actually but this is the first one. A lot of people are very optimistic as you know with wind and solar renewables cost coming down The battery costs are coming down You think that's enough or? No! That it so disappointing. I mean really. Voslav yesterday

1:03:44 He said, okay here's Tokyo 27 million people. You have three days of a cyclone basically every year it's 22 gigawatts rate over three days you know tell me what battery solution is going to sit there and provide that power I mean let's not joke around your multiple orders of magnitude you know $100 per per kilowatt hour. That's nothing! That doesn't solve the reliability problem and remember electricity is 25% of greenhouse gas emissions whenever we came up with this term clean energy I think it screwed up people's minds because they didn't now they don't understand, I was at this conference in New York i won't name

1:04:31 And they were saying, all these financial guys got on stage and said we're going to rate companies in terms of their CO2 output. We're going say this company puts out a lot of CO2 and financial markets are magical when all the sudden the CO2 will stop being emitted! I was like okay how do you make steel? Do you guys on Wall Street have something in your desks that makes steel?! What!? Where's the fertilizer cement plastic, where's it going to come from? You know do planes fly through the sky because of some number you put on a spreadsheet. So they...the madness of this so-called finance is the solution

1:05:11 I don't get, I just don't get that there is no substitute for how the industrial economy runs today. Right and that's you know that's something we're always just told about driving an electric car That's all you need to do, drive an electric car and everything else will be fine. We won't be using all these fossil fuels." And of course we are because you can't do all these things that he spoke about. Here is what he sees in the future. Expensive! In fact in the US Nuclear is not even close to being competitive. It's probably a factor of four or five non-competitive The key parameters in the nuclear build are how long it takes to build, what your interest rate of your money is and maybe some uncertainty factor whether you get stopped or not

1:06:01 And so in China those numbers are basically three to four years and 2% whereas in the US there may be eight to nine years 15 percent and maybe 50 percent chance you'll get shut down before you get started. So when you're competing with super cheap natural gas There's no way. Also, current designs are although per output it's the safest form of energy ever created more than say natural gas lines that blow up in neighborhoods or coal mines that create particulate that's not good for health Because it happens in Chernobyl-like events, it's unfortunate. Those designs that have high pressure and they don't have a good heat pool and they require operators to actually look at lights and do things, it's a pathetic design.

1:06:52 And yet it hasn't been changed, it hasn't been redone in the digital age where we can massively simplify. Make sure there's no pressure anywhere which forces you to... In our case a sodium pool design so its on paper which is where it exists and this incredible simulation. This thing is phenomenal, incredible an end of so called fourth generation nuclear well-funded project. Even so, it requires the US and China to work together... how's that going? It requires a lot of patient capital but nuclear in China is cheaper than coal. I propose a summit between Bill Gates and AOC

1:07:42 Can you imagine that? I know Bill well enough. He would walk away, wouldn't he? Walk right out of the room after one minute Well if he ever got in the room Right Unless she shut up and listened...He might talk to her but That doesn't seem like even a non-starter But this is good information he's giving out Yeah, I agree. I think maybe that Bill could be since he's really focused guy and I think he is bored stiff with running the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and can let his wife do that She seems to like it And you have free him up because

1:08:29 to be honest about it, he wouldn't mind being a you know roaming around. Wink wink nudge nudge say no more and he could push the nuclear agenda in a very powerful way because the guy is seen as this superstar guru genius And it might actually, he might be the father of modern nuclear. I mean you don't know. Yes! Either he'll be the father of modern nuclear or he'll be vacationing with Alan Dershowitz one of the two. One of the two but i would say this that he has all

1:09:13 He's got the right, he's already invested in these things and he's not stupid. And wouldn't make a mistake investing something lousy and I think this is a positive... This is good clip. These are good clips. Yes well we are pro this idea and that would be the no agenda new deal It is a flaw in the ointment with the green people. The hatred of nuclear... Well, that's why you remember this is all projection but whenever AOC says he's just taking money from big oil I'm thinking sure maybe you're taking money from big oil who the hell knows

1:09:59 Everybody's taking money from somewhere for some I don't know where the money from big oil is going, but we're not getting it You can send your checks to us big oil We're interested and with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to the man who put the C in c-span 3 John see In the morning to the troll room no agenda stream calm Jay trolls happy to see you got a nice big window on my new setup To see you even better than before I see you there and in the morning, too Let's know what Jenna stream calm and reminder in the morning to CZ and 137

1:10:45 Cesium is one of our artists. We have many of them, you can check out all the work at noagendaartgenerator.com and we choose one for the show album art every single time and this one from cesium-137 was The classic Rosie We Can Do It with AOC's head in there And I said oh i'm sure this has been done and you're like no no cesium's a pro artist and This hadn't even been done anywhere that we were able to find No, I did a search. It was an image search and there was nothing There were not variations of that old poster but there was nothing with AOC's head. It's really well done! We do check. Yes he is pro He may have done it himself before But you think somebody would have done that image Yeah That's what was interesting about it. But...no, no, he's original Well we really appreciate

1:11:43 One of our guys. You're doing that for a cesium 137 and that was uh, what was it? Truancy poster truancy crimes for episode 11 15 from him and put her Her re-election campaign using it No Ridiculing her no okay That's uh you know I don't know. It's a, that...I don't know if that's a good idea? I want her to stay around. I don't want her to do something stupid. That wouldn't be stupid. I think they could get her re-elected. Oh okay! Well the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group is available. She's gonna have trouble getting re-elected because they're going to go after her. Someone will. But you know she's one of those...she is a

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1:18:36 I'm sorry, Gabriel. Gabriel didn't want it and Alex did. Chris is next! Chris Black in Jamaica and Guyana. Right there in the new oil fields backyard Well he has a long note He has...it's actually a long PS but I'll read the whole note It's long though. I am procrastinating as a longtime listener and first time donor tell Adam to line up some Sharpton clips for me and a douchebag clip since it may be awhile again No, I will go for black night Thanks for the dedication and commitment to ensure I produce my own reggae music podcast so we know that work that goes into it in such tedious tasks as artwork and metadata. I listen and follow many creators, so I'm catching up on my donating PS. Yeah there's actually did that part was okay but this is interesting. On a serious note i live in Jamaica and Guyana So I appreciate your taking the time to tune into the mainstream news I heard Adam mention Guiana few shows ago And thought he would chime in about the Venezuela crisis Yes

1:19:33 Here we go. In 2015, Guyana elected their Obama who came out of nowhere and upset the ruling PPP government if you dig deeper you will see he had training in education quote-unquote for a couple years in the United States. Oh surprise! That's just like our guy in Venezuela. Yeah Guido Guido, fast forward a few years and the US now has access to Guyana this region and the oil offshore which was not able to do because of the prior administration's close ties with the Chinese. It is rumored that the Chinese are building a large spy center inside the currently being constructed embassy last December there's... Hello? That's what embassies are!

1:20:15 I know it's nothing new but okay. Sorry Chris. Hey, Guyana we know you're just coming on the scene and everything but this is what you can expect Last December, there was no confidence vote. There was a no-confidence vote that ousted the current president —a story which would seem like something out of a thriller movie—the president administration would have been taken out of office until the U.S stepped in and the matter has been in court and a total mess. And to add to that, the population in Guyana is about half black and half Indian

1:20:51 So, there's a tense political climate. Then the other day after the no-confidence vote Venezuelan warships intercepted an oil survey ship operating for ExxonMobil in disputed waters Exxon suspends the operations the next day. This increased the tensions between Guyana and Venezuela, and Guyana is going to the international community for help. Currently there's an influx of Venezuelans migrating to Guyana I've been traveling to Guyana for six years now never seen the pretense of foreigners going... It says pretense as many foreigners going as i see now so there was a lot in this situation Cheers!

1:21:36 Alright, well we got boots on the ground so we expect to hear from you again soon Chris. This is very good We do it's only there's only you know It's smaller than Austin and population wise is what 800 thousand people in all of Guiana? It's not very big yeah And what did he need he needed a Sharpton and uh What would he say at the top their sharp turn and I'll give him sure? Put it aside Douchebag and sharpening clips douche bag or de douche No, douchebag. He says he will be a while before he donates again. Oh okay. Douchebag! The people at watch captain says... ...he shot the teen in self-defense but the young man was not armed. He was going back home after buying an iced tea and skillet's candy. No name calling no incendiary language just the facts A young man dead

1:22:34 The assailant says self-defense. What is found on the young man? Skillets and iced tea. R E S P I C T You've got karma. Skillet's baby. Skillet's, it's the way to go. Wes Harris in San Marcos Texas 23980 Thank you for all you do John and Adam. I've been taking advantage of your hard work for a long time

1:23:11 I need a de-douching ahead of Saturday's Austin meetup. Are you okay? It sounds like you're burping. Yeah, I got the hiccups. Oh! I hate it when that happens. So I don't reek... so I don't reek. Okay. He needs to deducing. Please wish a happy birthday on my smoking hot wife Julie who turns 39 on Saturday as well. I easily convinced her just spend the evening celebrating with With the no agenda community Wow, you know we had In the mouth it ends at when we had to meet a little mini meet up in Mississippi Yeah, and so there's like I think eight or nine guys showed up

1:23:50 But there was actually, all those spouses were there. Sure! But none of them was meeting with the guys they're all in the back I didn't know until they're all leaving. His wife would come up to me and say my husband really likes your show he likes your show and then left another one other wife would come be him My husband's a big fan, my husband is a big fan And she left it was just like okay Well, you know I mean so here's why the and this is this is just what it is The southern women they seem to be less likely to join in with the men. Well we have the Noah Jen dependence day Which is this coming Saturday? It is March 2nd and that is at the Austin Brew Works beer our awesome Beerworks start at 333 p.m.. And

1:24:39 That's in Austin. It's gonna be a really, really big meetup you can find all the information at noagendameetups.com Maybe? What? We got a 509 last night after I mentioned it Oh really? Gee, I hope it's still up Here's the good news Wes for your smoking hot wife Julie just tell her the MTV guy will be there See, that's a little benefit so anyone who is coming along male or female when they know the MTV guy I don't know about that Noah Jendishow thing you listen to husband wife whatever there are some wives who listen and husbands don't

1:25:17 The MTV guy I'll talk to him for a second well the sites up at the moment And I and I was told by Mimi just go on the poor guy doing they independent Arlington Virginia meetup on On March 3rd, which is no that's DC girl. That's the DC DC girl It was a DC girls not a guy it's a gal well She says as you talked to some guy I was worried sick that there's only going to be nine people showing up. And i said okay well... Well wait hold on a second this is weird because DC girl is not the guy Mimi's talking to, this is this is a rogue person!

1:25:56 I don't know. Oh, no no it's a friend of hers see? I'm looking at the troll room It's a friend of hers okay got it so it's... Well the guy is worried sick oh this is not good plug it because yes where are the spooks spooks come out in droves the third of March spy on this come on we need some spies you just gotta go spot each other it's March 3rd 12 to three and I believe March there must be Sunday Yes, it is. 12 to 3, 2800 South Randolph Avenue in Arlington. Yes that's where I was born. 2800 South Randolph Avenue in Arlington. I don't know what the... Cafe Peeze- some Peeziola. Eezoliolio. Yes, Peeziola. Arlington is where I was born. I was born in Spook City. So get a few people here you guys got nothing to do on Sunday afternoon and then I guess you can listen to this show they're gonna be playing the show live Oh cool! In The Peeziolo?

1:26:52 Yeah, yeah. Live from the Pete Ciolo in Arlington! It's no agenda! Well done well pronounced Akated Okay good. Oh wait what is uh certainly we need to do something here for Wes don't we? Karma give him a karma You've got. All right, onward to Rob Wales in Concord West New South Wales Australia. Well that's interesting he lives in New South Wales Australia and his name is Wales! Wow that's really interesting 201 dollars

1:27:33 It's been too long and too much value received for so little in return, so it is time for me to bring the ledger back into some semblance of balance. Today I achieve that second objective of all producers – to become a knight! The first objective is simply to donate. I can't claim like many seem to do that I've been a listener since episode one but was a twit convert and have been with the early $2-a-month subscriber way back when That's pretty close to episode one. Yeah, I think so too. Within the first two years we came up with this idea and by the way... Let me go off a little bit on the side here This is one of those things you see where these newbies that come into the podcast realm The podcasting space? Space. Space. Space yes And they decide that they're gonna go listener supported and they do the math in their heads

1:28:29 You know, if I can get 200 thousand listeners to listen all i have to do is ask them for two dollars a month. Oh yeah this is how it goes That would be like two... that's four hundred thousand dollars a month over oh my god I'll be making 4 or 5 million dollars a year! It's better than blogging First of all $2 is too little eh? If you get 200,000 listeners if you get 10% of them to give you anything it's a miracle. Right but what percentage uh...of people that we know of actually donate? It's like one percent maybe one and half? I think its around 1%. And I do this by reverse calculating the numbers and the number of people on mailing list and all the rest of it Yeah because we don't actually know how many people listen and if anyone tells you they do their full shit They just don't! It can be done

1:29:28 You can kind of figure it out by doing a reverse calculation and assuming about 1% of the listening audience maybe gives you... And they're big supporters, and that's why you have to give them leeway. There are people out there—and I'm telling this is a lecture for the podcasters who think that they're going to get by with $2 a month. We dropped the $2-a-month thing. After a week, after a week, I think! Well, we went to $4 a week or higher. But it's because people if they get any benefits from the show they see the value and they'll give you more than that and some of them have money... They really have a lot of spendable income and they'll be very generous and you want to encourage that. You don't want to discourage it which is what you do when I'm talking to podcasters is what you do when you say

1:30:17 Dollar a month, dollar a month. Chip in! Yeah you used chip in on the email this time I liked it. I did use chip and I did it on purpose How did it work? It didn't do much Surprise we were going back and forth on emails that oh man use chip-in great he says yes maybe its magical well no turns out no magic Well, they're using all the pros are using it. I'm not saying that prose but just as a complete lose I'm talking about the The guys who run who run the emails emails for everybody yeah Yeah And they do it's always the same people you can tell that the writings the same red There's a critical element John is a critical element and it's what we're doing right now

1:31:02 We have always thanked people and we because there's became too much for the show. There was more Thanks than show we made certain cutoffs And we made certain decisions, and then we bring our executive and associate executive producers forward at a earlier segment but not only do we allow people to Communicate through numerology which is really the main thing all these numbers have a meaning I mean, Tina and I talk about this a lot. You know because she has you know Ronald McDonald houses 5 10 20 50 100 other... And i look at our list 3 15 15 300 11 these are all messages it's all a part of something that people want to communicate with numbers and we read it!

1:31:45 You know, it's the most transparent. It makes everyone feel good There's content in here which which makes people want to listen to it Yeah there's a little drop-off but people like to listen to what other people have to say. It's interesting Thank you. I'll continue reading this note so we don't go on and on about this I just wanted...I'm just..it's just a message too that people are trying them do well on podcasting I gave up on Twit long before John did and even got a few DSC episodes in before Adam gave up on that. By the way, Adam whatever happened to that gold brick? It's a bad story man

1:32:24 I didn't. You don't want to ask, man? Don't ask about the brick if I use the Aussie dollars dollar ruse as my gauge, I'd have been a night sometime ago see a kid but in that we give me and were giving him a knighthood today. Yes of course of course in the world's default currency it's now for real To make it worse I actually lose three cents $1 on the current mid exchange rate is thanks pretty much Oh, thanks PayPal. Sorry. Please knight me Sir Rob of the great Southern land and for the round table I'm happy with anything that has to do with drugs food alcohol or sex So that's pretty much everything on the list you who? Maybe it's a Simpsons call now does he need anything there is a crew here

1:33:21 Who'd love a visit. John won't leave his hideout overlooking the Golden Gate Fields, so Adam get your finger out and get down under I can show you a fantastic day sailing on Sydney Harbour." Oh that sounds great! Yeah yeah well after we move we gotta... hey we got approved for our slave mortgage. Yeah bet ya did. It wasn't that easy believe me So tell a huge balloon So mr. Curry explain again how you make money and what huh? Yeah, that was that was fun Yes after we'd after all I'm guessing there without Tina this would not have happened hell no No as we bought it together is a real job yes She has a real job has real money and is a real woman. I don't know why she puts up with a rap

1:34:14 All right. Kevin Silverman, ours is our last associate executive producer at $200 and 20 cents for people keeping track. This donation is coming out of my last paycheck from the US Navy as I'm retiring on February 28th after a 20 year enlistment. Wow! I was fortunate to experience quite a lot in my time. I work on a submarine... Ah we got another subs in the water guy. There you go. Worked on a submarine and a destroyer. doing something who knows what does it say? Deployments around the country, around the world and meeting the strangest and coolest people. From now I'll be intentionally unemployed while I sleep late avoid traffic jams in place shows around Baltimore with my band CyberStrike

1:34:57 I'm sure I'll need some jobs karma later on when I run out of money, but in the meantime Please pass on some karma to all the military men and women who are still in harm's way around the world Also some Karma to John and Adam to keep the best podcast in the universe going until they actually can't talk anymore jingles rubble iser dealer Sharpton's choice and a goat scream India, Tango, Mike. Standby 333333. Robilizer out. But resist we must! We must and we will much about that be committed. You've got karma

1:35:46 That's our associate executive producers and executive producers for show 1116. I want to thank all of them for keeping the show alive And i think have two make goods, I'm not sure about Sir Baron Sir J.D from Silicon Valley Yeah, I have his note here Okay, well you want to just read it because I feel like maybe this is come from the wrong email He got into vortex people do this. Yeah remind everybody this can happen anyone yes And then we're Texas where you get into a back and forth with one of the two of us that gets something red never Gets red and then we forget about It's a horrible black hole goes on for it go on for months it could yes happened has gone on four months with certain people yeah

1:36:30 Adam, thanks for the note. Lovely to see you and Keeper surviving the frozen tundra of the Midwest, but it's just before they cut off a few minutes before the cut off of this show... But hey, a busy show lots of donations. No biggie I should have sent it in earlier but still no credit for show 1112 he sent some money in for Show 1111 yes he did then he didn't get bumped then I said this note before one one four still nothing not trying to be a big complaining baby but dude tell me figure out how this ends up being a positive thing for the showing good karma back to me Perhaps an entertaining anecdote read by John from the classic Shays' Lounge and a man on the street interview near the Leaning Tower. Please credit me for some show soon! This was... this was...

1:37:14 This was a 3339 donation. So clearly an executive, and maybe you could put them on today's list? Yes of course I don't know what happened for this If you could add me back to the show notes for 1111 it would be nice He wants to be there I was hoping he'd get word out for simultaneous meetup in... Here is what happened your note went into the meet up pile And then Adam said oh I don't want another meet-up You got stuck in the vortex Yeah and I'm really sorry Also trying to pass back some value for value and say that karma does work See message below then he has one of his other messages. He's got a lot of notes in and then I asked for some jobs karma back towards the end of 2018 and again in January just as I was wrapping up a couple of vese V so

1:37:59 Whatever that is consulting contracts needed to start playing for a new gig the power of the knowage in the nation came through again last week I joined malware bites one of the rising cyber really cyber outfits in the valley That's nice good for the people and doing great business. What are they? What are they about cyber bites? Oh Malwarebytes is one of the two main spy hunter being the other one. I use SpyHunter. I don't use malware bytes anymore because... Uh oh, careful! He's just starting. Just starting. Because I started off, they got some very strange infection that was hijacking my browser. And everybody was saying they could see it and you gotta take it out by hand... Nobody could fix it! And then when we tried to hand-fix it, you couldn't get rid of it. It's really a dynamite product in terms of corrupting your system

1:38:56 Spy hunter did it. They fixed it and I was clean, but then so then I still use malware bites once in a while for other things because these things none of these no two do everything the same not exactly the same recently though I put malware bytes to work on something and it corrupted and erased my spyware with my spy hunter. It saw it as spyware! And so I, it, I saw a reinstalling and get erased it again. And so I called the customer support which they do have at Spy Hunter and I think Melroy Oh yeah, well yeah they've been erasing our program. Well that's unacceptable right? So says now JD is there Yeah Now we don't know We have to go try out the products again That he would fix that issue because it's not acceptable to erase a competitor's product

1:39:50 Well, it depends. From an investor standpoint is dynamite. Well it's a funny idea I thought it was funny! It technically is spyware or not malware but spying on you They're all spying on you. Anyway, Baron Sir JD of Silicon Valley apologies I hope we've made up for this congratulations on the new gig and then... And I would say this instead of doing this separately will have to organize another Bay Area meetup and make any he'll be a big part of it because he showed up at the last one with an offer of doing dollar-for-dollar Which is kind of a touch. He doesn't have to do that, no of course not. Well he's big Silicon Valley guy. But he's a good guy and has a lot of...he's a charming guy that's a good element especially amongst the dudes named Ben. Alright yes one other make-good which was kinda well we could've seen this coming but you know this is when I was in Iowa it was 11 degrees Taco from Den Dolder now he donated $1000 dollars for the last show and he wasn't instant night

1:40:50 But instead of saying, I'm a knight. And he's from Holland so it... He kind of did it Dutch thing by saying hey with this nightly donation you know etc etc So no one really caught that was a knighting Well I did say something I said well he has nothing here Yeah well you know I didn't catch it either Anyway he wants to be knighted Surtaki His name is Taco from Den Dolder, so Sir Taki definitely and what did he want? He wanted to hear respect. So I'll give him a quick respect and a karma

1:41:34 You've got karma. There you go, okay? We fixed everything everybody's happy everybody is on board taco bill See you later at the round table for your nighting very excited about that And I'd like to thank everybody who supported us our executive producers and associate executive producers This is a credit you can use any or credits are recognized they are valuable because executive or social executive means something in the biz and So display that proudly, perhaps even on your Twitter profile. People seem to like doing that and we will return On Sunday for another show I will be coming to you from the lowlands. I'm going to the Netherlands No, wait no, I'm sorry Sunday. I'll be here It's the week after but forget what I said Sunday We'll have another show that will be a report from the big Noah Jen dependence The Texas meetup at Austin beer works on Saturday and you can always support us at vorac org Slash n a now if your podcaster, do you know how to do it go out and practice?

1:42:36 Our formula is this we go out. We hit people in the mouth a couple things First of all In the Iowa meetup, how did they think do we have a process for donating to the show in person which is to put them? Whatever check or whatever you want to put in an envelope with a note with your name and add that's the process Yes Then you put it in an envelope and then hand the envelope over How did that work there because I don't that worked extremely well. I think there was only one donation That had

1:43:27 Cash in it that had no name everyone else had their name on I think we got everybody. All envelopes? No, all envelopes! Everyone got it and its really just for practicality but also you know people have all kinds of if you have some cool stuff and with I love new challenge coins stuff people have made You know put it into something you can get gifts put it in something you can close up again So we can take it so we can take it back and I can you know reuse the envelope to send his John's His portion of it Yeah, well you should send me some of the stuff that comes into the P.O box then well It is usually just gonna fall through yeah, but yeah, I mean too okay? I just wanted to know how that was working out because it's a

1:44:22 It's a protocol that needs to be repeated. Yeah, repeat it. No it worked out really well and And I want to talk about bringing Sir JD back into it. I believe that the Austin meetup Will maybe be the biggest most important meetup we've had its long time coming That's for sure because of the Texans and all their grousing and we have celebrity guest Tina the Keeper We have sir Jean We have Eric the shill is gonna be there this is gonna be a hootenanny Now, so my point is that we need to do another meetup in the Bay Area to top it. So Sir JD needs to be thinking about that. There's just no way you guys can compete with Texas? Come on! No way... Not gonna happen. They could probably beat ya in LA Alright What else you got Well a number of things Let me see where- Well let's start with a couple things There's a couple

1:45:23 For one thing, let's get the India-Pakistan thing out of the way. Yeah that's definitely something we need to talk about because no one else is! Now it looks like a horrible threatening thing they brought an expert on one of these you know professors instead of just your normal talking heads and some guy who actually knew what he was talking about as a Pakistani professor or writer and they give him a good introduction here on Democracy Now As soon as he says what the problem, what's going on here. It's like, oh brother why did we even? Why I can see it's really not newsworthy if you think about it in these terms. We had producers write in and say similar stuff so I'm very curious about this. What is this from again? Democracy Now! We're joined right now by Zia Min Pakistani born physicist nuclear expert and disarmament activist

1:46:17 He's co-director of the Program on Science and Global Security at the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs at Princeton University. Professor Mien is coauthor of Unmaking the Bomb, a Fissile Material Approach to Nuclear Disarmament and Nonproliferation." Professor Zia Min, welcome to Democracy Now! Can you respond to this latest escalation? While there's a split screen between Michael Cohen and North Korea at the summit in Vietnam, you have this very serious escalation between two nuclear powers—India and Pakistan. The escalation in fighting between India and Pakistan is a grave source of concern for people all over the world.

1:46:59 But it's part of a larger and ongoing crisis that surges into the news every so often. And so, for many people—including those in the United States—this is something that they've seen before, and so they don't expect it necessarily to escalate into an all-out war with the kind of catastrophic implications that we expect war between nuclear-armed states to have. Professor Mian, could you talk about the February 14th attack that occurred inside of Indian-administered Kashmir and the supposed reason by the group known as JEM that claimed responsibility?

1:47:41 translates as the Army of Muhammad, the prophet of Islam—goes back to 2000. It's a radical Sunni militant group that has been fighting with support from the Pakistani army and its intelligence service ISI against India in Kashmir ever since then, and has launched many, many attacks into Indian Kashmir and even into India proper. So this is just the most recent of a long line of attacks by Jaish-e-Mohammed. But the larger issue I think is not this one particular attack and how Narendra Modi's Hindu nationalist government in Delhi has tried to respond to it, to show that it is strong because they are having an election in India and so the Prime Minister and his party wants to prove how strong and tough they are.

1:48:29 It's a classic, a classic move. It's a total classic when as soon as he said the election I said we do this all the time! Yeah This is what we do and this is United States play. Hey so question and this is gonna sound uneducated witness the MTV guy What is the core beef between India and Pakistan? They hate each other. Yeah, okay but is it religion? Is it just the cashmere reasons? There's a little religious aspect to this Muslims versus Hindus they don't get along Is that the core, I mean that's the core reason? I think so. It's kind of like one of the core reasons. So culturally they don't get along. For example there are some cultural differences between these groups that are making it just like Germans and French you know... Or how about the Flemish and Walloons? Yeah similar now i have a little tip for people who like... Maybe its Windows versus Mac

1:49:28 I think it's a little more extreme than that. But it could be, but those guys are pretty bad the if you're going to buy Basmati rice here and I'm not saying this to insult any Indians the non donating Indians zero donating in I don't want to insult any Indians but if you're gonna buy Basmati rice Oh, by the way, Fawn brand is absolutely the best. But if you're going to buy Basmati rice always buy Pakistani. Pakistani. You're asking for it now? Oh, you're asking for it now if you have a choice you buy Pakistani and if you have a real choice you get fawn F-A-W-N Now why ask me why John Why is this what is it about the Pakistani Basmati rice that kicks ass over the Indianis

1:50:23 million times cleaner. Basmati rice needs to be washed again, yeah washed yep and if you don't it with the Pakistani rice it's just not as dirty... So wait stop so just like we know that the whole Middle East problem is really about who makes better hummus are you telling me that the India Pakistan conflict really is about whose basmati rice is better? Well, to me it is but I'm sure there's more to it. It wouldn't surprise me. Now this guy, this professor does continue with another little bit here – it's only 40 seconds – but he does his real complaint and I think this is a complaint that needs to be made we might as well play it out The the real issue that we need to talk about is the fact that this level of violence between India and Pakistan has continued

1:51:17 for a very, very long time and that it's not so much the military on military violence but the fact that large numbers of civilians along the line of control that divide Indian Kashmir and Pakistani Kashmir are caught in this endless barrage of artillery and firing across there which claims civilian casualties on a regular basis. And also the fact No one seems interested in thinking about what the future of this conflict and these people trapped in Kashmir between these two states determined to resolve their issues by force. I mean, what's the future going to be like for these people? Yeah just a bunch of innocents in the middle getting killed constantly Right right well that's been that way ever since I've been on this earth as far as I can remember it's always been that way we were always at war with Eurasia

1:52:08 Hmm. I like the Basmati rice theory though. Oh you about the basmati? Yeah makes a lot of sense it has a little to do with halal their rules about cleanliness. We do need to remember that China has a lot of money invested in Pakistan, that Pakistan can't pay back. Pakistan just got 20 billion from Saudi Arabia from MBS himself Yeah, that's our donation I'm sure of it Oh well yes That's Trump saying hey get in there! Get working on it we can have these Chinese taking over everything so probably part of the twenty billion is

1:52:44 you know, goes off to satisfy some interest or this stuff going on. But you gotta keep your eye on China because they really... Pakistan is a big part of their plan and if remember the three belt no road BRI syndrome. And talking about China I have one of the Huawei executives at the World Mobile Conference One of our producers is boots on the ground. He said this really it's kind of dead this year he says there's no real cool 5g demos Supposed to be all 5G from what I see Yeah, he says it's like kind of boring They said the most exciting thing was the brave browser people are there and he was propagating the know agenda for me about them But these are those things that people just walking around in a daze There's nothing there's no real cool demos. I mean yeah, which doesn't surprise me well but let's listen to what would the Huawei guy

1:53:35 very erudite character because the Chinese don't trust anybody I guess except their own at this level and so he has two clips from him. Ladies and gentlemen, good morning! Hello! It's great to see you all again. I love it when these guys come in do their English versions of their little show Because you gotta listen really closely. But we understand innovation is nothing without security. Let me say this as clear as possible, Huawei has not and will never prime back doors and we will never allow anyone to do so in our equipment We take this responsibility very seriously

1:54:34 Huawei has a strong track record in security for three decades, serving 3 billion people around the world. The U.S. security accusation on R5G has no evidence—nothing! Last month Zillow published a report saying that Huawei's 5G is 20 times faster than the so-called 5G in the United States. That interferes with the test. In commercial use, it is not twenty times faster but still much much faster

1:55:15 That's how he started his whole keynote now. What was yes, and what was this it's 20 times faster But it's not 20 times faster in commercial applications you said it's non faster. It's just faster I don't And he's pronouncing his company wrong. It's not Huawei its Wapo Should know better is that Huawei your country your company name is Wapo boy so I thought it was amusing, he's just rambling there but this is the second half of it. Yeah, we do? I guess we need... We need powerful more faster 5G. No, uh, i'm not so sure well it's-I'm torn now which direction to go. I think I'll stick here for a second just on the 5g for a moment To be clear for purposes of our show

1:56:19 5G, the protocol is uninteresting. It's just a brand name what's really an issue is the high frequencies they'll be broadcasting on or trans... transmissions because it's receive and send And the amount of power. So when you're talking in the US, I believe it's the 29 gigahertz... maybe 24? 24 gigahertz band that gets into a territory that you just... Up to 60. Yeah but the first auction was 24 gigahertz That's a place where you want to be a little bit careful. Besides that, just the entire spy grid that becomes possible is something that may not be desirable although if you listen to The Wall Street Journal and their special Mobile Congress

1:57:06 promotion of 5G, the benefits will just be astounding. What can 5g actually do? And they have some Brit guy for some reason doing this It will be a hundred times faster than current mobile wireless networks called 4G Are you writing it down John just write down all the benefits 100 times faster So that you can watch a movie in 10 minutes It's fantastic. I mean you can listen to this show while you're in the shower, the whole show because of 5G it's so fast. That's actually something that people don't talk about a lot but the capability for

1:57:47 over the top television distribution. I think there's a lot of people looking to jump into that game. Yeah, let me stop with this right away first of all to get into the house These frequencies, it's very hard for them to penetrate a piece of paper. No you're gonna have window units and wall units and stuff like that That's... Yeah they have to capture it somehow then beam into the house Window units Which is what you don't want But okay because but there are other ways to get in You can get into the house if you crank up the amps

1:58:26 You can kind of force it through. Yeah, crank up the watts I think is what you're saying? No i'm thinking of the amps and so you have uh...you go through the glass you know what it actually doesn't go through glass at 60 60, 60 terahertz or what we're talking about these millimeter waves. Yeah they don't like to go through a lot of stuff but they can be forced into it if you crank it up. Oh yeah they can go through bit sure but I its watts not amps why do say amps? You need the amps to get them get the watts up there okay all right

1:59:05 Fair enough to power the real powers in the amperage. Yeah, but remember I am a licensed amateur radio professional General class yeah well it would be at the head and it would be a what it'd be like instead of a one watt Sending device should be up 50 or yeah this What is that? What does a radio station was too big for fifty thousand watts Is that the max in United States we can have you still listen to radio? Yeah, car transmitters. We don't need no transmitters. You have 50k watt that's that's pretty much you got 50,000 watts Okay, we can put fifty thousand watts on the telephone pole But you need the amps to get those that what's up? I just say amps I think it means power more than I know I know what you're saying

1:59:51 Okay, so onward with the benefits of 5G because there's got to be something in here that we I mean so far We're missing something because already. I'm have kids around the table They're on the phone all the time and they are doing research on-the-fly as we have a dinner conversation Yes So they're on the wiki page and their reading from the wiki pages in there And they're showing YouTube videos on the on the little phone yeah You can't download it what shows? I can see them now What is going to be faster? You can watch you'll be able to see the YouTube video in shorter time. If the carriers configure the costs out, it will also add capacity for millions more devices something required is

2:00:31 Yeah. That was it right there. Oh, yeah the million well that's part of it the millions more devices which is not really a consumer benefit but you're going to be told that is because then you know we're in the market for fridge oh my god the amount of smart fridges that are being I mean who wants this? I don't know. Why would you want a smart fridge just gonna crap out earlier? I don't. The growth of smart cities, connected homes in the- Smart cities which means they're tracking you to figure out what you're doing. Internet of things but it's another thing that gets the people I've spoken to the most excited. Are you ready and that's latency Oh my goodness! The L word

2:01:11 He brought in the latency, I'm excited. Let me use a demonstration from Nokia to explain The robots here are talking to each other wirelessly and are tasked with balancing a ball in the center of the tray The demo first shows them doing it with 4G and then again with 5G The time it takes is reduced from 11 seconds to just 3 seconds with 5G. It's those tiny reaction speeds that experts say will make way for a whole range of exciting uses. Oh, tell me! New types of devices might come into play like you could have glasses finally make it. Oh the stupid glasses will finally make it Connected cars. Connected cars! Autonomous vehicles will generate a lot of data

2:01:50 A lot of data! A lot of data!! We gotta do processing at the edge. Oh, yeah I can see why we're all excited! Apple launches their iPhone. Real progress with 5G in terms of devices will probably come in 2020." It will take some time for 5g to get here, but if history is anything to go by being first will matter for the economy. The likes of Ubers and Lyft and Facebook advertising and YouTube advertising were born out of our GNLT. The hope is that

2:02:33 US takes an early lead. The ecosystem will continue to thrive and even grow stronger with emergence of 5G. Okay, well you did not convince me Wall Street Journal other than frying my brain and tracking me more I'm not that interested in your 5g of course my 3G E71 will get shut off eventually oh yeah you're before they can go to 4g at least. Yeah, they're gonna turn that off maybe I still think 5g is going to be a bust because i don't think That people are gonna want to put a millimeter wave device Against their head. I don't think they'll know and I don't think they'll care well it's

2:03:12 Because you know there's enough I don't want to put it against my head. No, but you know they get the word out no It's just no defeatist no not a defeatist it's just he I go approach it from a different angle I'll give you my final OTG strategy so people understand what it is to go off the grid? I have two devices in my life on an on a continuing basis one is the Nokia yes One is that little phone. Yes, the Nokia E71. And the other one's a vibrator. Yeah... you are on the ball! So I have three devices in my life now i have the nokia e 71 which i use only for text messaging

2:03:59 And I used to be like, oh, I can do a quick email because you can get IMAP e-mail on it. No, I can even open up WordDocs...I don't do any of that anymore! For me there is no reason whatsoever to be connected anymore. Once i stop caring about it? Like yeah, I'll be back in an hour. You're talking to the converted. I know but there's more people out there who want to know how it works and It took a little while because I had to reverse a lot of behaviors It's so important to know what's going on. It's so important, I mean anywhere you stop Anywhere people are not mobile for a second, boom the phones are out and you just see it. And it's rampant and its sick and your not well. It is sick! Its sick! Everyones doing it so you don't really notice until you stop doing it. The way to do it through pain. The pain as you can't do it. You just can't get anything done even at certain point Tina texting me I'm texting back I cant keep up I got this physical keyboard I call her

2:04:57 Hey, how about that? Let's talk for a second. And it's very nice So as a part of your OTG strategy you do need something else and for that I have the Surface Go A very inexpensive very small device It's the size of my original iPad I have a nice little beautiful little case that it goes into and I have a hotspot. Yeah, I think you can get the surface go with And now with LTE don't get that what you want is you want to be disconnected if I really really really need To get something the pain of turning on the dongle The hotspot it's firing up the little computer and then doing whatever. I need to do That becomes a choice like do I really need to do this can I do this later? Is it of utmost importance

2:05:49 When it's really easy to do you will do it. You have to pain yourself And how long have I been doing this six months would you say longer? Really, I'm cured I am completely cured and I love it I can even pick up an iPhone now and just Do something to get it out of there or whatever and put it back down Notifications aren't in my life anymore except for you know one sound from my phone And that's only a handful of people including you and you called me the other day. That was surprised like the phones ringing So that is the strategy. When people say, what phone should I get? Oh yeah! I can get the one that is completely built on open standards Linux hardware switches You're still going to be distracted and looking at your phone when you could be looking at other people looking at their phones It's a lot more fun. It is funnier. It's really great because...I'm gonna be candid..you feel superior

2:06:50 You do. Well, that's your goal in life. You just feel superior. Yes! That's my exit strategy All right. I'm reminded, remember a couple of... Not last Christmas but the one before we went to or Thanksgiving went to London? So I take lot of photos where you have a real camera use a real camera and take photos. Yeah. So it's taking some photos. I was looking over some these old photos looking for something like blow up to be huge size which is what I do and so i'm looking at these photos that are taken inside the tube Yes. So I had two groups, I had some photos that I took on one of the platforms probably from about...

2:07:35 10 years ago, I was in London for the book fair or something and I took some pictures of the platform. There's a bunch of people standing around you know? And they're just standing around there and then- Reading the paper maybe even reading the paper held up in front of their face They weren't even doing that they were looking around and I took a picture this last time I was there and everybody standing at the platform if somebody came with a machine no one would look up! They were all looking at those little phones All of them Yeah...and it's sad Because in like we were flying so when the plane lands You

2:08:15 Everyone except for me does the same thing phone comes out everyone and I all I love standing up as soon as I can To get you know to get the carry on but that I spend my time looking at what every button? I'm looking over their shoulders looking at what they're like Twitter Facebook You know texting it three different people at the same time back and forth between windows. It's just a I don't know. I-I don't think it's an improvement to your quality of life. I don't think it's healthy when the whole plane lights up! No. Uh, so I want to stay with brown people and yellow people for a second? Uh... sticking with China

2:08:55 The trade negotiations continue. The president has said he will postpone the increase in tariffs from 20 to 25 percent on Chinese imports, and they were doing one of those Trumpian news conferences where the press is there and he had his team—his negotiating team—and Bob... was it Bob? Forget Bob. Bob's one of the top negotiators He said something and the president just slapped him down and this guy he whimpered off like a little bitch It was great I don't like MOUs because they don't mean anything to me that I'll mean anything I think you're better off just going into a document. I was never Never a fan of an MOU so Trump does, and I don't like MOUs either it's like an LOI letter of intent memorandum of understanding

2:09:46 It's basically people who just don't agree with you yet and then well, we're kind of agreeing to agree. We'll do something." And so Trump said I don't like those that was some question from the press then Bob jumps in he is going explain what an MOU is. An MOU is a contract it's the way trade agreements are generally used People refer to it like it's a term sheet. It is not a term sheet, it's an actual contract between the two parties A memorandum of understanding is a binding agreement between two people and that's what we're talking about It's detailed, covers everything in great detail Just call them a memorandum of understanding as legal terms, its'a contract And would you think that would be very long-term deal sir? Contracts last while they last

2:10:33 There's no turn. They last while they last, Mr President. By the way I disagree i think that a memorandum of understanding is not a contract to the extent that we want we're going to have... We're doing a memorandum of understanding That will be put into a final contract I assume but to me the final contract Is really the thing Bob and I think you mean that too It's really the thing that means something A memorandum of understanding is exactly that it's a memorandum Of what our understanding But to me, the contract is... The real question is about so we do a memorandum of understanding which frankly you could do or not do. I don't care if you do it or not. To me that doesn't mean very much but If you do a memorandum how long will it take to put that into a final binding contract?

2:11:15 From now on we're not using the word memorandum understand anymore. We are going to use the term trade agreement, alright? No more! We'll never use the term again. We will have the same document and it's gonna be called a trade agreement. We are never gonna use MOU again. What a little whiny bitch. We're never gonna use the term memoran- Exactly. I have some thoughts about this meeting. You want to play that? I have a background of her the democracy now put together Trump in Vietnam This I don't this is I don't want to go to Vietnam yet first of all we need to take a break in a minute But weren't you just in Vietnam that was China the Chinese trade negotiations, okay sorry That makes sense Let's talk about some other brown people Venezuela

2:12:07 Wow, they are trying all the tricks. Anything we can do to justify going in and taking everyone's oil and putting Guido on the pedestal? Here is Sean Hannity Another Univision staffer is detained at the presidential palace in Venezuela. This allegedly occurred after an interview with the Venezuelan dictator, Nicolas Maduro. According to reports, Maduro didn't like the line of questioning so he ended the interview confiscated the equipment and had Ramos along with his colleagues arrested We do have an update Thankfully three hours later the group was released we'll continue to monitor this disturbing story but I gotta tell you

2:12:52 I don't agree with Warhead on a lot of issues. He's an American Jorge Ramos is controlled opposition for Fox News. I mean the guy's only on Fox News always and he's Univision of course but he's always the opposition no you don't know what you're talking about now and now they use him in this so-called they took him captive and they took his interview away because this guy's such a bad dictator. They put it on Craigslist exactly, I smell a rat That is a very typical tactic. That's almost like, you know shooting down some plane in Kashmir But then the final thing as we go to white people is Candanavia There's some crap going on! I'm short on this This is a big deal It's a huge deal and it's very hard to get clips of it because its been going for a long time I think I can summarize it This company...is it SNC-Lavalin?

2:13:54 I don't even know what they do, but they broke some rules and essentially Trudeau put all the screws to the Attorney General to not have them be prosecuted. It's called a delayed prosecution or some term like that and eventually the attorney general got pushed out and now she's out saying, let me just tell you how this went down. And Trudeau is really being implicated in being a corrupt bugger Here is a quick clip I have This is the conservative leader Andrew Scheer and he of course is taking advantage of this politically Justin Trudeau simply cannot continue to govern this country now that Canadians know what he has done

2:14:45 And that is why I am calling on Mr. Trudeau to do the right thing and to resign Further, the RCMP must immediately open an investigation if it has not already done so into the numerous examples of obstruction of justice the former Attorney General detailed in her testimony. So SNC-Lavalin is a contracting company like Halliburton and they apparently committed human rights crimes in Libya? Didn't even know the can that connect Candanavians were building in Libya. Everyone's in on these deals You're just as rotten as we are and so pretty funny because I think this may end Trudeau's career Yeah, I think it has to when what is he thinking? What the hell and by the way, you know idea what this is gonna be We have to really dig a little deeper into our cans to our Candanavian producers What is not helpful if sending us half hour and say hey It's all in here either you and it can't be six minutes

2:15:49 So we have to figure out a way to tell the stories in shorter sound bites. And this is the problem I have, just trying to get the Attorney General... She has a list of like 10 things it takes her 25 minutes to really explain the whole situation but i think that's in a nutshell that's it human rights violations The company is supposed to get their ass handed to them and everyone's lobbying for not to happen including Trudeau who eventually pushes out the attorney general Who has been pressing for the charges or for the prosecution and he wants it to be delayed And there's got to be money and donors and other kinds of stuff involved It's definitely a big deal. Yes, so we would like to know more and that is also part of your jobs as producers I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun

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2:28:08 And I'm sure we'll see a number of them at the Noah Jendependence meetup on Saturday right here in Austin, Texas. It's gonna be great to see everybody star-studded Celebrities wall to wall it's gonna be crazy just crazy. I tell you let's hope so and talk about Trump in Vietnam Okay Here's the Democracy Now report Oh, there you go. I got it. Michael Cohen's remarks also reveal Trump faked a medical condition to get out of the Vietnam War draft and that Trump told him quote you think I'm stupid? I wasn't going to be at the wrong clip. It says Trump in Vietnam.

2:28:50 Yeah, this is a clip from the hearings that I thought was hilarious. So yeah, I didn't hear and I missed it Let's you want to play let's play cuz it's very funny Well, let's talk about Trump in Vietnam. You have no clue. I had a chump in Vietnam rap Okay, so Trump goes to Vietnam and nothing happens Now I think they made a deal that they can't get anywhere with Bolton and the other guy, or the Secretary... Elliot. No. Bolton. No. Pompeo. Pompeo. Pompeo. Pompous. Pompeo. Yeah. So because those two guys go in there and muck up the works because they're both neocons, they hate the country and they're just trying to- They don't want- They're part of the industrial complex that wants to keep selling arms to South Korea Yes And so you know if we're going to make good friends with the North Korean guy

2:28:08 And I'm sure we'll see a number of them at the Noah Jendependence meetup on Saturday right here in Austin, Texas. It's gonna be great to see everybody star-studded Celebrities wall to wall it's gonna be crazy just crazy. I tell you let's hope so and talk about Trump in Vietnam Okay Here's the Democracy Now report Oh, there you go. I got it. Michael Cohen's remarks also reveal Trump faked a medical condition to get out of the Vietnam War draft and that Trump told him quote you think I'm stupid? I wasn't going to be at the wrong clip. It says Trump in Vietnam.

2:28:50 Yeah, this is a clip from the hearings that I thought was hilarious. So yeah, I didn't hear and I missed it Let's you want to play let's play cuz it's very funny Well, let's talk about Trump in Vietnam. You have no clue. I had a chump in Vietnam rap Okay, so Trump goes to Vietnam and nothing happens Now I think they made a deal that they can't get anywhere with Bolton and the other guy, or the Secretary... Elliot. No. Bolton. No. Pompeo. Pompeo. Pompeo. Pompous. Pompeo. Yeah. So because those two guys go in there and muck up the works because they're both neocons, they hate the country and they're just trying to- They don't want- They're part of the industrial complex that wants to keep selling arms to South Korea Yes And so you know if we're going to make good friends with the North Korean guy

2:29:47 It's going to hurt business. So they go in there and screw things up, and then Trump is stuck with whatever happens. But he does make a subtlety to this because two things happen that really are going to put a stop to a lot of this. One, Trump says we're not gonna do any more of these exercises with the South Koreans And his excuse was because it's a waste of money. The real excuse, of course is because Kim Jong-un hates these things he thinks are just provocations so they're gonna stop that but the excuse is going to be it's a waste of money So nobody cares about that I'm sure Trump had their talk them into that

2:30:27 The second thing is, Kim's gonna stop testing stuff and that's a plus for us. So at least we got that far and this as far as we're going to get this should also end the war but somebody pointed out that the real thing here is going on again these arms sales are so important because there's too much money being lost if we end this thing together all together and turn into a tourist trap But somebody pointed out that the South Koreans want to do something other than be under our thumb insofar as us making them spend money. And that's why they keep using the phrase, you've heard it, the denuclearization of the Korean peninsula. Yes.

2:31:10 They don't say the North Korea. No, they don't say North Korea you're absolutely right They always say the penises because we've got a bunch of atomic weapons in South Korea They want them out There dangerous so it would be targets It would be a joint effort then well It's never going to happen if you have these two creeps. Yeah, the arms sales guy. Pompeo is a creep and Bolton... Why is Bolton even in the White House? All this when Trump ran he was bitching and moaning about all this stuff and then he brings this creep into the White House to be the national security advisor why I don't know either we're gonna shoot you and your family or you had to put Bolton in it what it was again I think it's the weird sex stuff

2:32:01 They're all involved in that. All of them. You think Trump's involved in the weird sex stuff to the point where he, where he has to have both in there? Yes I think yeah I think in the early days of Roy Cohn uh...I'm gonna have to add Roger Stone in there and yes I think there was some weird sex stuff going on So let's go back to your old thesis which I am going to reiterate for people who are unfamiliar with this There is a huge blackmailing operation going on amongst a bunch of sexual perverts and deviants, I use that word advisedly. I know what it means. I know its negative implications but there's a blackmailing scheme that goes on once everybody is in on it then you have to do what you're told or your gonna be exposed as some sort of creep Well for instance Alex Jones came up with this and I think was kind of interesting thought

2:32:58 So he says that these, you know the fact that the Senate wouldn't even pass a bill that said hey you can't kill a baby after it's born and not enough they knew like 40 senators voted against it. 44 or whatever was they couldn't get to the 60 number which is kind of odd because you think well why wouldn't you pass that kind of bill resolution whatever it was? But that's because of the harvesting of the organs. If you keep something alive, there is a big business in organs! That is just a fact. Look at the rabbis in New Jersey who went to jail for it they were selling all kinds of organs all over the world and was a huge scandal So this guy is in on it and then he drops the beans by admitting to this on that radio show The Governor

2:33:51 And then immediately they come out and try to smack him down with something I'm sure was known for a long time, which is the racist blackface KKK yearbook picture. So... Blackmail it's by the way It's what the CIA does They do it with sex all the time and the FBI enough said Yeah so yes, I think that can be the only reason Bolton is a creep And he is a neocon, and Trump doesn't seem quite that interested really in like even Venezuela. You know he's like eh... He does his speeches, he does whatever I think he's interested in the oil, he always said that about Iraq you know oh we're so stupid We went there, we basically helped those idiots out and didn't get anything for it Just to solidify my theory about the wall

2:34:52 So Trump has agreed that we should and I think he said it himself that we should give TPS Which is not from office spaces, but TPS is temporary protected status to the Venezuelans so that they just like I mean the Haitians as so many different countries Who get you know? You're allowed to stay in United States. You get a temporary protected status It's a pass and never really goes away and people just build their lives here. Can you imagine if What kind of what kind of right you need a wall if you're giving TPS to Venezuela? I'm gonna have a lot. We'll have a lot of people walking up here So I said this seems like something that maybe was even in play before he took office, I don't know yeah If you look at the long game of what we do oil companies are played long it's long game It's very very long

2:35:45 But let's talk about something that we can still talk about, even though I don't want to go into depth on it. We can have a conversation if we want here about vaccines—we have it all the time—you know, we're not anti-vaxxers. There are some things to question such as why do all the pharmaceutical companies have immunity? For their vaccines, it's blanket. If you get hurt or killed by a vaccine You cannot sue that you cannot bring a lawsuit that is that is federally Determined in the laws now there is you can get some respite some Some reparations from a fund that is that has kept very quiet

2:36:26 But now, even talking about it on some of your favorite social media sites not yours and not mine is a problem. You can't do it anymore this is from NPR more than 120 people have been diagnosed with measles so far this year in outbreaks in Texas New York and Washington one factor public health officials suspect is contributing to these outbreaks anti-vaccine information on social media Pinterest the visual bookmarking site has decided to intervene A 2017 policy limits search results related to quote health misinformation, including about vaccines.

2:37:02 Ifoma Ozoma is the public policy and social impact manager for Pinterest. Before this policy was in place, for a term like vaccine if you had search back much of the content was in violation of our community guidelines because it was anti-vaccine advice. A search on the site for cancer cures might have brought up pins or bookmarks for pages about herbs and juices that work better than chemotherapy Now you'll find a message that says pins about this topic often violate our community guidelines, so we're currently unable to show search results. Our goal really is harm reduction and so because we're humble about our limitations and our own expertise here, we look to outside experts like the WHO CDC and the American Academy of Pediatrics on what's harmful

2:37:53 So what is harmful? You know these I love this new department although she had a little different name for it in the interview comes back every Silicon Valley company now has a trust and safety Department And I think we need to have a trust and safety department Because this is something you can trust and it's not safe. Here's a follow-up on this harmful information people with alternative remedies to cancer, oh my gosh we cannot be giving this away! People go to the internet and go to these platforms to find like minded communities and to share information are you doing damage to that? That kind of agreement that they think they have with you yeah so

2:38:39 Harmful misinformation is not inspiring and it's not the kind of content that our platform hopes to promote. But what if people think you shouldn't be the one to make that decision for them? As adults who are on the internet doing research on their own, why should you get to make that call? Well, we aren't making the call because vaccines are settled science. And we also know that there may be questions about the decisions that we've made were really clear and transparent in our community guidelines and use simple language so that everyone can understand why we're considering certain content harmful people

2:39:20 Set up your own website. Stop this insanity! Set up a mastodon server! Go to wordpress.com, I don't know that blogspot or blogger or Wordpress are doing this to their users No, of course they're not. And if you host it yourself you have much less chance... Now a couple things about this measles deal bothers me I had some clips before but i don't know if we can find them but the under measles uh this started by the way there's we had this measles thing happen about 10 years ago on this show To the point where the Lear Foundation was dropping in storylines. Ah, yes I remember! In Law and Order were killed by measles. Oh it killed my measles there was a big case with some woman that did a fictional on Law and Order where this woman didn't have her kid vaccinated and the kid next to her died So what would it be called? I had measles BBC Josh Disneyland I don't know what it'd be called

2:40:22 You know the way I'm, you're asking the wrong guy. Yeah one of my things... So the measles thing is not a new thing it happens as a cycle now it's supposed to be eradicated a few years ago but somehow if its eradicated seems to me which they claimed it was it would be eradicated? I think they reintroduced it and I say that because there's a number of news stories that came out recently where kids got their measles vaccine and then got measles! And then there was a bunch of other kids who had the vaccine. That's settled science, by the way! But not... yes but not the booster and they got measles and when did a booster become a thing for measles? So I'm most of the opinion that if you go about it this way especially if you can't get sued yeah you take this and I don't want to sound like a conspiracy nut but

2:41:13 From a business standpoint, you're making these vaccines and now you notice in Washington state in particular people aren't taking the shot. Although it's a shot I'd recommend, but under these circumstances maybe I wait. Because the people up there that's where it started to break out and again its reported that was a kid who just got the shot who got measles and started spreading around this eradicated disease, eradicate they say. It starts spreading around now everybody has get all freaked out they're gonna get him back on the shot wagon for shots

2:41:50 I just find something scamish about this whole measles outbreak that if you can't get sued, I can put live virus in the thing and inject it to a few dozen kids in some areas where we know there's not a lot of vaccines being taken. It would be great to find one of our- If I was a creep, I'd do it! One of our earliest shows, I should say... I in particular really became very interested, and this was a lot of awakening for both of us back in the day 10 years ago. there was a JPMorgan Chase Investors Conference. And we had the slideshow and it was, I forget which pharmaceutical company it was or if it was maybe just one CEO talking about the industry and they had their hockey stick off the charts. Vaccines are the next revenue source this is the gold mine

2:42:51 And since that, we've seen... We got HPV, Gardasil. All this stuff came in then we had the swine flu and the flu virus is an ongoing vaccination program just on and on and on and on. My favorite by the way during this swine flu thing I think I put it in one of the older newsletters. I had a picture they were giving swine flu shots out at Albany at the their library. Oh yeah, I remember this! Yes! And the picture is...I'm telling you it was like a Star Wars movie. The people were lined up with their kids around the block to get this shot.

2:43:31 And that's a shot I never got. My approach, and I've said it before is I think Tamiflu and Relenza are two antivirals that work very well if you get the flu or if you think you're getting the flu where you better be pretty sure you're just wasting a lot of money because they're expensive. most of my life for every very how many variations can there be that I haven't gotten the shot for. I was thinking about this myself, I've never received a flu shot the last time i got the flu serious flu was the swine flu in San Francisco and I lived and since then I've had no flu now I'm dying from allergies but it's different problem but flu not I don't seem to get any more

2:44:20 Well, I caught a version. I cut that one from a couple of years ago that killed a bunch of people. I know two people Jerry Pornell, I think was killed by the same flu Wow Shoot man, you should go get a shot. We can't have you dying from some flu I had this flu and what happened was that we were in London And then they were coming back and I was getting it right there on the spot You went to realiza? I'd have a process for these things so i don't get sick My process wasn't working and I said dad This has got to be the flu and I immediately started on Tamiflu What is your process

2:44:57 I take no more than two omega doses of vitamin D3. If it doesn't go away, then... Well, I rarely have to take two. It's usually with one dose that knocks everything out. Gotcha. It stops colds in its tracks. But you can't do it a lot because it's hard on the kidneys, but you can do it once a month anyway. That wasn't working so well... I always carry Tamiflu when I travel. So I started right away with that and I got through it pretty effortlessly considering that everybody else is dropping like flies.

2:45:36 My wife, yeah she started too late on everything and she got a bad case of it. It's really... We can't we need her to we gotta keep you guys healthy like that's the back office or the front office like we can't have this. Hey! We're fine okay? Okay I'm worried about you. I learned by watching you okay something like that. Hey you man. Nah man. Keepers keeping me healthy no worries and that is our deconstruction for today Yeah, we of course will have lots more to talk about on Sunday. It never ends Not just deconstruction of your media worldwide Maybe some things we hadn't learned yet from the media but also a wrap-up of

2:46:21 No agenda no agenda pendants the Noah Jen dependence meetup is will have that you'll have the event. That's right The event will be Saturday we'll talk about it on Sunday for that look up know a genomic ups calm and Coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas capital of drone star state FEMA region number six in the governmental maps in the five-by-nine Cluedio in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where indeed did Sefford did not go by? I'm John C DeVore and we thank Marco Garcia, Dave Corbonu, Leo Lapuke, OVDB and Placeboing for our end of show mixes until Sunday. Remember us at Dvorak dot org slash NA Until then adios mofos and such!

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2:48:11 Yeah, yeah. Telephones that have gone in and triggered people but it's electrical nebulization of the brain. That have gone in and triggered people but its electrical nebulization of the brain. The phone rings and took the trigger. Yeah. You're saying well where is the phone? It gets everywhere. It's 5G. A certain percentage of people are going to end up being killers and crazy only half hooked. Electrical nebulization of the brain. Phone rings and took the trigger. Electrical nebulization of the brain. And with a program cleanse the earth

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