People's Vote

00:00 Don't take off the cat shell! with nothing but a compass and rubber knife, and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in downtown Austin, Tejas. In the Cludio! In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where i am satiated by sorghum this morning I'm John C DeVore It's Crackpot & Buzzkill In The Morning Alright title right off the bat Satiated By Sorghum Now uh You're still on the sorghum trip you never gonna make it taste good

00:44 Are you writing your little intros down? Always. Okay, why because the rubber knife thing I know you it's not something anyone would ever add lib is funny You've never heard this. I think I may have used this as an opening years ago the rubber knife Yeah, yeah probably but it's true that's all we got compass rubber knife good to go no I'm understanding need this this satirical aspect of it okay Yeah, no knives. No guns. No nothing. Shut up sit down Alright so your sorghum? yeah some sort of there's some cereal some German company makes them cereals got Sorghum as a main element it's and most of the world eats sorghum in one form or another I think the number two or number three It's it's in the top three of the grains we have wheat you have rice and you have sorghum those are the big three And you'd think

01:42 Since it's in the big three, that it would be something Americans would eat but apparently is just shipped to Africa. Have some mush! Well now you know... It tastes like crap! Give it to them It's like, is it cheap to grow? I mean why grow it at all where the Africans not eat wheat. They refuse to eat rice too much trouble to boil! I mean I don't understand why they eat sorghum and talking about too much trouble to boil... Maybe believe you have to boil sorghum to death. Hold on let me look for something here. I know what to do. We have a number of chefs

02:22 professionals, people that are far above and beyond our cooking abilities that listen to this show. Have they played with sorghum? I don't think so. Well... What can I get this sorghum anywhere? I want is it available very hard to come by you go to Whole Foods You asking for some sorghum the third most popular grain in the world no sorghum Hey, I would like some of the third most popular grain in the world sorghum. Do you have any well? what well can you send me some because I just found a instapot recipe for sorghum That's got to be that's got to be the epitome. Instapot sorghum brought to you by the Norwegian Bag of Sorghum through Amazon so you can order some. Oh, okay good anyway from sorghum. Well this is a ruined meal

03:15 In waiting, I don't know. I've been loving my insta pot yeah you would I think you only like because it's in stuff pot No It's not that instant cuz you always got a sautee stuff and then it takes 10 about the word pot Oh must be good. Oh Geez really okay? It's cheap joke and you want to hear a cheap joke yeah Lindsey Graham Here he is. He was asked to speak in front of the, what was the team that the president served fast food too? Oh right, the Clemson Tigers. Clemson Tigers so the president asked Lindsey to make a short speech Well they said be short and I started this speech short now I'll end it short Come on

04:09 You can tell this is an educated crowd. Oh, racist! Now I found that it was semi-charming The president went out and bought all this crap food for these football guys. Yeah, the reactions on Twitter were funny because ah! These men are finally precision machines of athleticism that could never eat such things and anyone who knows any of these guys ever...

04:58 They eat this stuff by the ton. That's like my three months in college in West Virginia, I was the white shadow and the football team, The Tigers I think they would be hey hey white boy let's go to Mickey D's yeah like I had eight big black football players in my car we'd drive to Morgantown oh yeah love it! Yeah of course they do. Love it The thing that I... They probably liked that more than some kind of fae gourmet meal that, you know maybe some other president would have set out for. Yeah, yeah. I didn't clip it and I wouldn't even thought to bring it up but the President started off by saying something about well you know first I was thinking you know maybe have the First Lady make some salads and the Second Lady do some salads in the back which was deemed misogynist

05:51 I think it's just rude towards his wife. If i had said that, the keeper would have pulled me aside at a certain point and said listen this is not how you talk about me It was the salad maker Wow I'm sure you heard of heard about it. Yeah, but that's the kind of oaf he is Oh Good word and oh He did him a favor. I'm sure those guys loved all those big course they did Of course they did and then he was he had Wendy's and he had Burger King didn't have Chick-fil-a just thought was a mistake could have riled some more people up with the racist, this racist sandwich. There's no uh... there's any hardies in there but this Lindsey Graham you know he's

06:35 flipped 180 degrees on his attitude about the president and we finally know. We finally know what's going on, we go to MSNBC! Before Donald Trump got elected Lindsey Graham called Donald Trump a racist xenophobic bigot that is Lindsey Graham words I doubt Lindsey Graham could tell you Donald Trump had a change of heart in the last 24 months i bet what the change of heart has been with Lindsey Graham not the President or it could be that Donald Trump for somebody knows something Pretty extreme about Lindsey Graham. We're gonna leave it there. Oh, he's blackmailing him! Yes... Sure they do that is what it is. He's secretly gay Stephanie That's what it is and he's holding it over him I'm gonna out you Lindsey because nobody knows There has been So much nuttiness in the news In fact, I'm gonna go right into this clip and then I have an observation This is Carl Bernstein

07:33 One half of the legendary Woodward and Bernstein duo, we're all journos today. They aspire to be these guys and Bernstein is on CNN. And what everybody can see is that he has not acted with Russia from the United States having a strength advantage with Russia. Rather, he has done what appears to be Putin's goals. He has helped Putin destabilize the United States and interfere in the election no matter whether it was purposeful or not and that is part of what the draft of Mueller's report I'm told is to be about.

08:21 So this is about the draft of Mueller's report and Trump has willingly or unwillingly, or I even heard Clapper say wittingly his favorite word. Has helped Putin destabilize the United States. Oh! The place is falling apart Which brings me to the shutdown If the president truly is a puppet of Putin then this shut down is nothing less than an actual attack by Russia Yeah, we are under attack by Russia It's so easy to use these things. Why why don't they do that dreamed up? These are fantastic means a great mean sit around and they dream this stuff up And then they say let's roll these talking points They didn't do this one They didn't I mean This is an obvious one they didn't sit down and say hey wait a minute We can call this shutdown we call it an attack by the Russians yeah

09:16 Oh, they were. They're listening to our show some people. Some. It'll go into the pot and come out as a talking point Putin's puppet speaking of the Russians Sergeen The Earl of Texas? Yeah, the Sheriff. He's Earl Gene Sheriff of Texas or something like that. Something. He celebrated the Russian New Year last Sunday as he does every year I didn't know they had a new year of their own Yes Gregorian calendar Okay And here i am

09:52 Well, okay. But does it always fall like around the 12th or the 13th? Is it always on a Sunday?" He's like no Gregorian calendar took me while to get the concept that it may not be completely in sync with our calendar So he celebrated that at Russia. Is he an Orthodox Christian? He celebrates the New Year on that day I don't know if he's Orthodox Yeah, I think he celebrates all new years Well where there is vodka there's gin But I tell you it's Russians this you would have loved this this dinner. He brought him just people crazy interesting people like a guy who was one of the founding partners at Guthrie Renker And he told me about how this whole deal with Anthony Robbins came together, which really wasn't Anthony Robins idea they had some of these materials and they packaged him into the very first power talk series and

10:43 Which I thought was an interesting story. Well, Gunthy Ranker is a notoriously good marketing company for doing that sort of... It's not it's abnormal marketing it's done direct to customers usually over television. Yeah the infomercial that they really pioneered the infomercial I would say. Well I don't know they..I would have asked them specifically about Barry Boettcher and his influence on the infomercial but that's another... No then I will ask him Yeah, cuz he's an awesome. Um The best part though this Russia house man those guys know how to do it right we had a waitress and you got imagined she had like just yeah a 70s Austrian porn imagine that right boom-boom-boom-boom And she had on a maid's outfit with short pants

11:38 I swear to God, she had the white little maid thing on her head and everything's black. And then as she backed away from the table it was cut off... high-cut off showing her legs! It was just completely odd. Just... I said, Gene... Biggest style in Moscow. I said, Gene you should invite her to the wedding He's like yeah well but she has to wear that outfit I don't know if that's gonna happen. I think the keepers are love that idea it was her idea All right, so this Mueller report turns out It's gonna be a big dud and everyone's getting you Hold on a second first of all we're in this is Right now We're in the moment where there's talking about it coming out to be that this Mueller report is never going to come out for at least A year

12:32 Oh, I'm all in with that. But they have you know before Christmas they were all praying it's like and this for give us a great Christmas gift Bob Muller Bob and I found this to be this This was repeated many times Incorrectly which i thought was kind of fun. This is ABC's Jonathan Karl With his information on sources close to Mueller well look I mean the story in The New York Times was an extraordinary reflection level of distrust between the FBI leadership and the president, and how suspicious the President's behavior was. That they actually were at to the point of investigating whether or not... The letters about firing Comey, the interview with Lester Holtz? And actually going to the point of investigating whether or not effectively the president was a Russian agent but what I am getting is that this is all

13:23 I'm pretty sure it's anticlimactic? Oh, he said climatic. I like climate change. Yeah and a lot of people regurgitate it as climactic but it...I looked it up it is climactic. It's anticlimactic not anti-climatic because that's uh anti-climate Yeah, there's no climate anymore.

14:25 of was there any coordination collusion with the Russians in the effort to meddle in the elections or was there even any knowledge on the part of the president or anybody in his campaign. There you go so anti-climatic idiot never a correction You'll hear it. People are so filled with climate change that this climatic just kind of pops out and they don't even know it. I think thats exactly what happened Even Stephanopoulos was sitting there like, he didn't say anything wrong did he? So that's the Mueller report. I have nothing else on the Mueller report, but I agree with you though it'll just go on for years. Oh yeah he is going to milk it as long as he can because its free money and he needs something for a living and gives him a lot of power and people will be like oh there's Mueller. And he still has tons of other crimes to cover up Yeah he can do some 9-11 crimes that need to be covered up and taken care of get some people out extract them

15:26 Well, I have a good background. This is the NBC trying to bring us up to speed on everything from the if everything about Trump all in one 109 minutes with the NBC lacing into Trump about everything. I'm Kristen Welker at The White House where the president was focused on that capital Hill hearing today with the Russia investigation looming large over him and it's likely Moscow is watching too. Particularly after The New York Times reported today President Trump seriously considered pulling out of NATO last summer a move that would have weakened the alliance aimed at deterring Russian aggression NBC News reported at the time military leaders went into damage control mode to calm

16:11 jittery allies and during the summit Mr. Trump was pressed about the possibility of withdrawal I think i probably can but that's unnecessary and the people have stepped up today like they've never stepped up before it also comes as Senate Democrats and some Republicans voted on a measure aimed at blocking the Treasury Department from easing sanctions on three Russian companies linked to a close Putin ally ever worked for Russia? I never worked for Russia and you know that answer better than anybody. The president has also been defending himself this week against revelations the FBI opened a counterintelligence investigation into him in 2017. Now, couple things one

16:57 I was always told that he would never deny saying he worked for Russia, but there was a denial on that tape. Yeah And the other one was the whipsaw in there where she says He was thinking about pulling out of NATO and then they pull it throw to a clip where you never says that He knows its possible. I can do it. I can think about it But they put through all the clip in making us sound as though That's what he's thinking well done so that was chicken shit should give her little raise well done Yeah, I got yeah a bonus cash. Mm-hmm is 100 for you sweetie hundy hundy Have a hundy with a handshake there it is puts in her bra Okay Sorry, you're at the work that org if you don't like this

17:46 Right. So what else we have? I have another clip that's kind of, another screwy clip this Democrats demanding of the Republicans Meanwhile Democratic freshman members of the House marched to Senate side of the Capitol this afternoon They demanded that Republicans pass bills to reopen the government I demand it. These are the new freshmen people from the House going over to the Senate, do they know how this system works at all? Well you know you gotta hand it to them for trying some stuff out and that's not a big problem. Apparently AOC was dogging Mitch McConnell

18:31 You know, just following around saying hey you know get back to your own house. Really? Yeah! Now do you know any other of the freshmen all Democrats I presume who are over there? Uh...I think there's a Republican No, I mean there's three Muslim women that are all very vocal and AOC is about it. I only know about the four those four Well, I think it was an email thread that you or I were on and one of our producers said You know the people that brought her to light AOC. That is oh yes This is a good story you should read it yeah It's well I looked up. I looked him up. It's the Justice Democrats Yeah And I've looked at this outfit

19:23 They're at justice Democrats calm now. This is a bridge about AOC Yeah, we're talking about AOC here and they say right off the bat Our mission is to elect the new type of Democratic majority in Congress one which will create a thriving economy and democracy that works for the people not big money interests And you know it's really the only It is a political action campaign, so and it's a federal PAC. So they they limit how much you can donate to them They only did about two million dollars in that's what that's kind of what they have In I looked at the form 990 You can only donate up to five thousand dollars But it's clearly some form of group. I gotta say not a lot of familiar names in here from people who are running the joint

20:11 The people who are familiar all these new Democrats that got elected so apparently this justice Democrats is the outfit behind Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and I actually have a clip from when they were recruiting her one sec Yeah, so before she was known as AOC This is the caption of this video. It's from from Justice Democrats before Alexandria was known around the world as AOC There was a movement that recruited her to run Is he called at a very potent crossroads in my life like you hadn't thought about running for office or anything? No, no, you gotta do something I knew that I had to do something We were trying to call up folks that were like doing all kinds of amazing stuff right

20:58 Every conversation would have a very awkward pitch at the end. Oh, it's so great! You're like saving lives you're fixing stuff in your community and so do you want to run for Congress? Maybe?! We are not treating climate change as though the world is going to end in 10 years It's great that everyone thinks these issues are important we need to make them urgent What is happening in the halls of Congress is deeply unrepresentative of what is happening on the streets of everyday life. Right now, with this administration and with the role money has played in politics we need to put ourselves on the line for this it's all hands-on deck for our democracy right now Yes! All hands on deck! Please don't eat me Alexandria Ocasio Cortez

21:45 I love it when you abuse your children Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez That is violet Violet is eight years old. She was the she belongs to Carter And she said, yeah dad I'll do that for you but only if i can do one about Alex Jones too. Because apparently she hates Alex Jones when her dad is listening to him. Please don't eat me Alex Jones! Well she's got a lot more into the Alex Jones clip. That's what we need from her She's getting an Oscar for that one No Agenda Kitty Oscar

22:27 Yeah, we need a redo. We need the same... just a little more energy. Well done though on the pronunciation of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez That's good for an eight year old. That's very good It's fantastic Anyway so this Justice Democrats The guy who went through the email that put us on his notes He said that they that Chunk was part of this group Yes! The Young Turks I can find no evidence of that in their in the documentation. What I do, you know see we can look at their platform which is completely AOC's platform Green New Deal Living Wage Federal Jobs Guarantee Rebuilding Our Crumbling Infrastructure Block Bad Trade Deals End Tax Dodging and Loopholes End Unnecessary Wars and Nation Building some of this i'm on board with by the way Medicare for All. What do you mean?

23:25 Well, like stop unnecessary wars and block bad trade deals. Yeah I'm in on that there's nothing wrong with that see how would you be bored then? See what You said you're bored with it or your own board on board not why they said you're bored with it now onboard tuition-free public colleges and trade schools Well, I'm okay with that. Defend and expand Social Security Medicare Medicaid it's too broad ensure paid vacation time sick time family leave childcare fight for racial justice protect women's rights combat homelessness law enforcement reform Okay in that common sense gun regulation voting rights You know there's a lot in here. I like these new Democrats because I think they're malleable I don't think so I mean for the Green New Deal

24:15 The only thing that the AOC Dems have to be convinced of is that, and it's not that hard actually. The true solution is nuclear energy and you know why everyone has been made so afraid of nuclear energy? It's because of those people you hate! The big oil people have been creating anti-nuke propaganda for decades. Now I know what you mean by malleable. Yes, decades. that you can use that logic. Mm-hmm, yes I do to persuade them and change their minds Yes and i'm calling it because i'm feeling it and i'm seeing it there is a convo happening let's see if the... Convo? I gotta talk in their language man cause in case someone clicks this Yeah cool yeah I dig it So we got to change the regs so lets have a convo about that ummm....I am seeing it! I am seeing people looking at this well this really is a solution

25:16 And I think yes, they may be open to some logic. I will try and present it to Alexandria when she visits Austin as a keynote speaker at South by Southwest in March. Oh God! Yeah, I know isn't that great? She is a superstar! Let's deconstruct your own logic. Alright. I'm gonna go with the logic and assume that the logic is actually true so what you're saying can fight the giant oil companies all by yourself. Me? And maybe one or two of these stooges, it's not gonna happen! No no wait stop I get to respond order up no

26:05 But we could get it started and it's exactly a person like AOC who could at least break through for this one This one misinformation piece about nuclear. I will counter the argument You don't even let me finish my argument Okay, okay, we'll finish no I yield she is gonna be shouted down if she even tries to Shutted down by the same dipshits that you know are always would be great for the show so For the show. Yeah, well isn't everything ultimately about the shows beyond I think so and I think that what's Pelosi has put her on

26:46 the financial committee under Auntie Maxine. So I guess Maxine got the talk. Old Nancy really has a clue. His old daughter is, she's like yeah i got a great idea let's put these two together and see what happens! I'm sure they'll get along fabulously you know she's one of those to see there's a number Bill Ziff, who was a billionaire publisher of Ziff Davis during his heyday before he died. He was one of these guys and he would, every once in a while he would... Somebody told me they deconstructed his executive moves and told me about this. And the guy who did that was accurate about pretty much everything. Sif would like it say, you know I think these two guys hate each other. I'll make him assistant publisher to the other guy."

27:43 Let's see what happens. The way it was described to me is that you get these people at the billionaire level where they really don't need any money, they don't even care if they burn down their own house... It's just fun to mess with people! They're just like, hey let's see what happens if we put these two guys together? So that's what Nancy's doing. That's a great idea! Well AOC is definitely here to stay for awhile and I'm enjoying her I'm enjoying her very much and maybe we can get some, maybe we can at least get some new focus for nuclear. Maybe. Well that would if you could pull that off dad give your kudos If i can pull it off? No its not yeah You're the one who says you're gonna go talk to her Oh that was just just using that as a bridge to let me change it no I'm not gonna actually go up to her hey excuse me from The Noah Jindal Show podcast Can I ask you question? No

28:39 But I'm telling you, this will be a topic of conversation. Let's see if she is really pure then she will at least want to look into it She won't do it. She has already brainwashed Alright That ends that Now, well I mean you can stick with your guns on this. I think the idea is sound and the logic is good but I'm just saying that these people are not that bright. Yes we know your stance on her. I am giving her a little more benefit of the doubt So we had the Brexit fail We had breakfast Actually the truth wants to come out

29:26 On Tuesday, this was the BBC headline news. The withdrawal defeat is facing... The withdrawal deal is facing defeat by MP's. Withdrawal defeat! OK. Alright BBC a little too early on the script We're getting there. We're getting there. Yeah, I have a bunch of this Let's just discuss it for a moment This was really quite interesting and what did you watch to follow it? What'd I watch yet were you watching at live? I was following this live on on Sky News on Pluto Oh, I was following it live on C-SPAN which was the BBC feed okay So I had sky which is kind of fun and you had BBC interesting yeah

30:20 C-SPAN had really good coverage of this thing. Let's start with the vote which was overwhelmingly rejecting Mays horrible proposal, Brexit the nose habit. Order! And wait for the audible gasp Eyes to the right 202 The nose to left 432 I love that Apparently the BBC guys had give all this little details about for example The ones on the left of the one they move them to left to right. Oh, yeah eyes on the right The right is the loser yes, the left is the winner ah Yes, so the Left is always the higher vote so you read there were the right first then the left Now

31:29 A couple of other things. I didn't know how, for one thing there's only 400 and some seats in the parliament in the House of Commons? Yeah And there's over 650 about 600 members, 650 members Yes So where did the rest of them go? Yeah The math looked a little off to me too Well I didn't quite understand They explained it at BBC they had some expert explaining every little thing and They just don't have the place to sit. That's it! So when they have a big event where everybody wants to come and watch, they just pack their aisles, they sit on the floor...they're all over the place. I didn't know that

32:07 Because half the time it's empty anyway, so you wouldn't expect- Seems kind of disorderly. Very disorderly! But when you hear for example I have a good just sound bite this is the ISO This is where they have a yes and no vote we do by all in favor say aye all opposed say no mm-hmm This is the No vote in one of these For one of the amendments? Yeah for one of the amendments this is the knows habit voice vote ISO NO No! I think the no's have it. Hey, how about some electronic voting over there? And so they're working on it and we were told that too now the no's thing is people don't just yell No! They yell NO! NO! That sounds like you're double voting that doesn't sound right this this it's just wrong man. No, no, no. Three votes you can't vote three times yeah and then

33:11 So they had so I have one clip. Well, anyway, we These are just incidental clips. Let's play the one where this is the next day When they're just writing that before they took the no confidence vote which she won The next day they everyone's riding her for being the biggest loss in a history ever loser capital L Loser yeah, so here's the note. This is the UK fends off Corbyn on Wednesdays kind of fun more taxes more spending fewer jobs Jeremy Corbyn Thank you Mr Speaker, thank you. May I start by correcting the record? Last night I suggested this was the largest government defeat since the 1920s. I would not wish to be accused of misleading the House because I've since been informed that it is in fact the largest ever defeat for a Government in the history of our democracy.

34:15 So Mr Speaker, shortly after the Prime Minister made her point of order last night her spokesperson suggested that government had ruled out any form of customs union with the European Union as part of a reaching out exercise. Can the Prime Minister confirm that's the case? Can I say to the right honourable gentleman that the exercise that i indicated last night is as I said about listening to the views of the house, about wanting to understand the views of parliamentarians so we can identify what could command the support of this house and deliver on the referendum. And what the government wants to do is first of all ensure that we deliver on the result of the referendum thats leaving the European Union and we want to do it

34:59 in a way that ensures we respect the votes of those who voted to leave in that referendum. That means ending free movement, it means getting a fairer deal for farmers and fishermen, it means opening up new opportunities to trade with the rest of the world and it means keeping good ties with our neighbours in Europe Mr. Speaker, my question was about the customs union. The Prime Minister seems to be in denial about that just as much as she's in denial about the decision made by the House last night. Just break it up for second... From what I understand if there is a no-deal Brexit

35:37 It's not like they're gonna send, you know the repo man or something. I know he owes money Then I believe there's a default trade Deal which is what they call the WTO rules Yeah, they go to the WTO rules Which they have with other countries already WTO rules are... Well that's what we do We're WTO yeah They're well established so there is something in place it may not be optimal or ideal but it's not like there's nothing and established infrastructure. This is another thing I keep hearing, oh just the technology alone what we'll have to do to change if we have different customs agreements with the forms...oh it's gonna be horrible

36:18 Sounds like a money bonanza to me, but okay. So yeah WTO rules so there is a way to deal with that I understand the business secretary told business leaders on a conference call last night We can't have no deal for all the reasons you've set out Can the Prime Minister now reassure the house businesses and the country and confirm? That is indeed the government's position that we can't have no deal We can't have no deal Is that grammatically correct? I don't think so. No, it's fine because no deal stands alone is kind of a phrase Then we say we can have A NO DEAL That doesn't matter Oh right right good point yeah It's not that important Made previously is if you don't want to have no deal You have to ensure that you have a deal Now I will give this

37:11 I will give this to... Wait a minute, if you do- Ha! This is great. This is newspeak If you don't have no deal You gotta make sure that you got a deal What? ...has made previously Is that if you don't want to have no deal You have to ensure that you have a deal now... If you don't wanna have no deal You gotta ensure that you've got a deal Get it? Got it? Good! I will give this I will give this too I will... Howie Mandel should come in and do a deal or no deal. I will say this to the right honourable gentleman, there are actually two ways of avoiding no-deal The first is to agree a deal and the second would be to revoke article 50 Now that would mean staying in the European Union

37:54 Failing to respect the result of the referendum, and that is something this government will not do. Oh please Teresa we all know it's headed toward that We've been predicting this for how many years? Three? Since the beginning It's almost three now. Since the vote two years ago, and the reason we're coming on three... And this is easy to predict because this is how the European Union and the New World Order, the liberal world order does its business We don't like your decision so we're just gonna have a do-over They did it with the Lisbon Treaty with the Netherlands with France with Ireland Do overs vote again shut up

38:38 All good, but we know where it's headed. Here is Nigel Farage. The law is very clear 500 MPs voted to trigger Article 50 which said we leave with a withdrawal agreement or failing that we leave on March 29th That was backed up of course by an act of parliament so logically legally what should happen is we should leave on WTO terms So there is some faint hope I suppose for Brexiteers the reality of course is that our political class in Westminster and abetted by their friends here in Brussels, Monsieur Barnier particularly have been doing their best to overturn this result from day one. What do I expect to see? A stalemate followed by an extension of Article 50 And you're right there will be a push for second referendum in Westminster but not out in the country where interestingly that YouGov poll yesterday showed only 8% of people have a second referendum as their first choice so I think and I fear

39:34 that we are headed on a path towards delay and probably yes, a second vote. There you go! Well, they've packaged it a little differently and I was hoping that he would have mentioned the new phraseology. Ah! Well, I do have him in Parliament... European Parliament. Oh well that's just slamming people there but i'd love to hear that first before I play my two clips. 500 MPs voted for Article 50 which of course makes very clear that there are 2 years in which to negotiate a withdrawal agreement or we just leave

40:10 And that was backed up, of course by the Act of Parliament. The Withdrawal Act which once again says unconditionally we leave on 29th March Now Mr President you say there's no support for no deal but then you all thought there was no support for Brexit in the first place. You might be surprised how quickly public opinion is changing Mr Timmermans, you say this would cause great harm but if we leave on No Deal if we stick to the law as it is We become an independent country and I would say to you what price? Freedom! But...I'll be the first to admit I doubt this will happen

40:51 Because working in cahoots with you, we have Mr Blair and many other leaders of the British establishment who treat the Brexit vote and treat voters in general with total an utter contempt. And there is a great tradition here isn't there? We've seen it with Denmark and Ireland You make people vote again All I can say Is if we finish up With an extension Of article 50 We may well finish up fighting the next set of European elections and we will fight them. And if the betrayal becomes complete... and we are forced to vote in a second referendum, you may be in for a big surprise. The British may be a very placid people, very laid back but I promise you if they get pushed too far it's a lion that will roar We will be even more defiant If we have to fight a second referendum and will win it by a bigger majority

41:49 A smattering of applause. All right, so that's... He is describing the British that have seemed to all perished after World War II from old age. The modern Brits if you listen to these guys on the street it's none of these guys. They don't go for bad. And they like the word. Now, the thing that's being overlooked here is that they've decided to smart money on the side of stay the lever, the remainers have re just kind of redefine things. They don't want a new referendum. They don't want a new referendum. They want a people's vote. Oh yeah this is... That's the packaging oh okay. The Scots of course are the ones behind it the most because the Scotts

42:34 who are probably completely oblivious to the fact that they'd be exploited to death because they have all their oil, which is kept in UK. But you would love to get a hold of it. The Scots are behind us there. A bunch of I think just a traitorous bunch don't even know why they're in the U.K., or why the British tolerate them. But you can hear as the Scottish independent guys and all the rest in Parliament got a lot of floor time. You've got a lot of floor time this guy Well, this is the guy. Angus is no longer there and he was the best of this group but I got Brexit Scots bring up people's vote one motion. It doesn't say it on the list. You scared me yes. Motion of no confidence that should have happened before but of course

43:23 that we will support it. Mr Speaker, as I mentioned it is clear the clock is ticking The Government needs to secure the safety of all our nations and should immediately postpone the article 50 process and should immediately have talks with all the leaders of the opposition parties. Let's work together in all our interests, but let us listen to the voices of the parliamentarians that have been sent here there is no support for this deal it must come back again The obvious thing to do, the right thing to do suspend article 50 put this to the people and a People's Vote

44:01 I know that. Is there people's vote? This may be something this maybe it is a different kind of deal than referendum or is exactly the same for what I can tell, it's just a repackaging of the referendum But the idea is that since Parliament screwed up the thing to begin with, that we should have let the people decide. Let them vote! Should do we even leave? And they're thinking there maybe should be two items on the ballot one of them which is a redo of the referendum and the other one is some lame thing. These are the remainers who want the people's votes correct yeah yes Patrick Stewart is as a member of this group

44:45 Yeah, I wouldn't surprise me. He looks like the type he lives in the United States makes his money here and He doesn't care what happens to the UK Brexit labor and the people's vote too there is a different member of Parliament This is crazy! And are people just buying this? Oh okay that's not the same as a do-over That's the People's Vote it's different Yeah, that's what the scheme is. Huh? Good catch! I'm not sure how they're gonna get away with it... So far they're not getting away with it but well it's a movement as we are getting traction and I'm hearing more and more people vote. I like the term.

45:32 If you ask Gerard Batten, the current leader of the UK Independent Party that won't happen. For the Europe and Nations and Freedom Group for the floor now goes to Mr. Batten. Mr President we've seen two-and-a-half years of an elaborate political charade based on an entirely false premise which is that you can't leave the European Union without a deal There never was going to be a deal. There never is going to be a deal We've seen Mrs May and her emissaries go back and forward to Brussels in order to reach a withdrawal agreement that nobody wants

44:45 Yeah, I wouldn't surprise me. He looks like the type he lives in the United States makes his money here and He doesn't care what happens to the UK Brexit labor and the people's vote too there is a different member of Parliament This is crazy! And are people just buying this? Oh okay that's not the same as a do-over That's the People's Vote it's different Yeah, that's what the scheme is. Huh? Good catch! I'm not sure how they're gonna get away with it... So far they're not getting away with it but well it's a movement as we are getting traction and I'm hearing more and more people vote. I like the term.

45:32 If you ask Gerard Batten, the current leader of the UK Independent Party that won't happen. For the Europe and Nations and Freedom Group for the floor now goes to Mr. Batten. Mr President we've seen two-and-a-half years of an elaborate political charade based on an entirely false premise which is that you can't leave the European Union without a deal There never was going to be a deal. There never is going to be a deal We've seen Mrs May and her emissaries go back and forward to Brussels in order to reach a withdrawal agreement that nobody wants

46:10 The Remainers don't want it because they don't want to leave. The Leavers don't want it because under it we don't really leave and what is the purpose of it all which has now been extended? It's to wear the British people down to the extent where they accept defeat and surrender, and the result of a referendum is overturned Well, not for the first time I found myself agreeing with something that Mr. Verhofstadt said He said how to break the deadlock in the British Parliament we need a majority in favour of something absolutely right Mr. Verhofstadt and in three days Mrs May has to come up with a plan B well the good news is there is a plan B which should have been Plan A in the first place which is to repeal the 1972 European Communities Act leave the European Union under

46:58 our law and then to tell you how we're going to repeal and amend 45 years, and tens of thousands of bits of legislation under our priorities and in our time scales. Now Mrs May should immediately resign and hand over to somebody who can become Prime Minister, who actually really does want to leave the European Union. And Parliament... The British Parliament has the opportunity to redeem itself If it betrays the result of the referendum, then it will destroy what remaining belief or faith there is in our democratic system which isn't very high to start with. But they can turn things around if they want to They can take the initiative They can stop asking you how we can leave and they can start telling you how we're going to leave And I can tell you that the British people will never surrender! Woohoo! That guy could do... Mr Churchill

47:59 He pulled the Churchill. He sounds like, uh... What does he sound like? Who's the actor? Asking you! I was picking up on something too. Ah shoot, Michael Caine that what it is. He sounds like Michael Caine A little bit. Democratic system which isn't very hard If he just drawled it out a bit longer It would be a shoe-in for Michael Caine Yeah You know what I find interesting and maybe this why the NATO thing has come up again And I went back and looked. I could not find a single conversation, discussion argument or rule or anything even in the terms of Brexit that we...that are public that concerns the military

48:41 I haven't seen no debates about military. And we have this European Union, Military Union that's kind of popping up and it you know... How do we do our single point procurement? There is something that is not being discussed and maybe that's why Trump is messing around with NATO because the NATO EU I mean its almost synonymous Yeah, but we're pretty much in control of it. Sure We are that's why everyone's freaked out wait a minute and will be an island with no guns Let's have some screw Paul That's all we got what are we gonna defend ourselves? On guns baby you want some yeah Chemical warfare stuff No one talks about it know It might be something worth bringing up if he had anyone to bring it up with besides me um now Now we're just blowing in the wind my friend

49:39 The this whole thing which I do have a couple other side clips. I think we've got to the gist of it Which is that this is the problem they got they gotta figure out? I don't understand why Any British person would want to be a member of the EU because they're being pushed around It's like you might as well just This is like Germany's third attempt to take over the all of Europe yes, hello this time They know how to do it now yeah no bloodshed Yeah, but it is just a construct for Britain to believe that they actually have to pay something and have all these agreements to leave where you know they can just say screw it we just don't want to do it anymore. We're out! We're out. We quit yeah well now and I love how they make fun of us yeah we got our problems but not like that

50:29 No, they... Yeah. That's true. That's really a problem and their whole existence is up for grabs. Now let's listen to I just want to have one because they took an ISO out of this clip because this guy Burkow the guy who was the speaker of The House who has got that you know he's just a bullshitter. He goes on to some woman that came by the way if I can just interject he could be the judge Judy of The UK He would make nothing but money fan Just raking it in dollars with a syndicated show raking it in just a thought yeah

51:14 Now, apparently some woman came and this is the clip by the way I'm setting up as Brexit. The pregnant lady. This woman comes in and she's pregnant and they were going to induce labor all these things are bad she has gestational diabetes she's about to drop dead but they wouldn't let her bring a proxy in to vote, by the way. The way the vote went you'd think they would have more ears to the ground to know that the vote was gonna go this way that they had to drag this woman into vote because she voted no and so they brought her in and she's in a wheelchair it was just pathetic and she stood there pregnant and they have to rush her back to the hospital where she came from

52:04 discussion. Is she with the Labor Party? There's a little discussion about this and Burkhard gets very involved with it and berates everybody but in the middle of this which I have an ISO, who plays second He turns to some guy who was just giving him a little, he just said something and he turns the guy and rips him into such a fast and interesting way that I thought it was fascinating. But let's listen to the whole clip. And her baby at risk because we cannot have a method of allowing those who are sick or pregnant is disgraceful. Well, I note what the Honourable Lady says

52:44 I don't cavil at it at all. Yesterday, I made the point that the situation was lamentable. I used that word several times and said that the situation was lamentable. This matter or die—I'm not interested in people chuntering from a sedentary position to no obvious benefit of purpose. I am ruling on this matter and require no assistance in doing so. The situation was lamentable but I thought better that the hon. Lady should have had the opportunity for a proxy vote Wait a minute, they've been discussing

53:34 this proxy vote in this case since February? No, it did in general. Oh okay. Because its come up before. Oh okay. Let me just understand what is lamentable. Lamentable! What exactly are the deals you have to be able to come in unassisted that's the only if you are not Able-bodied you had no you have to be physically present Okay, got it. And I also learned something when the baby said didn't know is that when they make their votes You know how they vote? No It's off camera. Yes, there are two halls the yes hall and the no hall and you walk out of that's why they all leave they all leave I go through the yes or the no door And they go into the yes and no door in one of the clerks or Clarks Is there to count them? And then they come back? I love tradition

54:31 It's an old long tradition. And of course the joke is they go through those doors and then they're hugging each other in the same room right behind the doors like orgy, yes orgy So, so he's in the middle of that. He ripped into this guy who said something to him and I've never heard this guy talk so fast and make such a very interesting point even though I think he mumbled a little bit because I couldn't fully understand what he said when he turned to this guy and ripped off his following phrase which is this clip as speaker ripping heckler. Order! I'm not interested in people chuntering from sedentary position for no obvious benefit or purpose. I am ruling on the matter and require no assistance in the process

55:09 of doing so. You like that, huh? I do! I did like that. That's what you'd like to say to your kids. Just roll that out. So fast they don't even know what you said. Like with the head on it right again. Sir order... Hey you child order! ...people chuntering from sedentary positions no obvious benefit or purpose i'm ruling on a matter and I require no assistance in the process of doing so Oh, gray. Hot. Yeah exactly like the way he comes to a slow slows it down He rips and then he slows it down to half speed to guys talented low-speed guys talented. She's got talent He is telling us nothing you just can't argue with the guy has talent. He's a remainer Yes The yellow jackets that was just we'll just move over a little bit across the pond there now It's uh, it's ten weekends We've had

56:06 Violence continues. Although I think this is fun to talk about, there's this continuous... Oh we're gonna do a bank run! A bank run the front of the yellow vest are gonna do a bank run Yeah, I don't think that's going to work you know maybe in the days of Jimmy Stewart a Bank Run was real but you know at Bank Run seriously? You're gonna get your 200 euros out of your ATM? I mean, I don't see how a bank run could bring down globalism and certainly France, but one of our producers did send me a link to the revolutions of 1848 also known as the spring of nations The people's spring springtime of the peoples. The year of revolution was when there were numerous political upheavals in Europe in 1848 and you know you being mr. Cycles thought maybe you could

57:01 Maybe you could... It was a revolutionary cycle. It was all over the world, there were these little revolutions. Yeah it was really huge but also a lot of the trend but a lot of the factors around that time sound familiar Some of the major contributing factors were widespread dissatisfaction with political leadership, demands for more participation in government and democracy, demands for freedom of the press. Demands made by working class, the upsurge of nationalism regrouping of established government forces middle classes and workers tried to form coalitions Of course tens of thousands of people were killed

57:43 And serfdom, I think emerged from this time. But for a while there they did have it! This is when Karl Marx and these guys started to rise up around this time in which we have our new version of socialism... Am i taking you too far into the revolutionary cycle? I don't know. Okay thanks. Maybe you are maybe you aren't. Thanks You know, things they do cycle in the French are pretty much in the middle of the cycle. So I don't know. I think that's a big thing. The cycles...I just tend to follow financial cycles not so much. But there is beginning of this cycle? This is..I think it's just beginning. Oh maybe. Maybe. Historically the French...I'm rooting for them!

58:28 Yeah, I can tell yeah well historically the French are forced to be reckoned with and they're not letting up And what did Macron say he said oh yes? He came out and blasted the French saying. Oh you want things without proper a proper effort You want to get stuff for free? Yeah Hello That's exactly what the deal is isn't that isn't aren't shouldn't he'd be saying okay This is what we've always wanted. We want this New World Order, give everybody a living wage here you go shut up stay home don't do anything isn't it time you just say here you go? Well that times are coming It is! That's why I'm saying maybe this is the moment Well... Maybe. I dunno. This not something I can- have not figured out

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1:08:58 I do have the clip of the day if you want me to play it now. You have the clip of the day where I certainly Have the clip of the day, but yet you claim to have the clip of the day okay? You play your clip no No, we're playing your clip at the day first all right so you should get the button ready Well, yeah but you gotta tell me what clip to play before I can hit any buttons. Yeah, I'm gonna have you set the clip up. Okay This is the Berlin Station Clip Now this is a show on Epix that I keep trying to get you to watch it And and and! I want to say Tina and I watched the first episode of the first season Had never watched it before Found it very stressful We were watching like this is pretty good You're like yeah its pretty good Then we're like...this is stressful

1:09:44 Oh, I'm sorry. Your sensibilities are challenged a little stressful. It's a little less stressful as it goes along the second season is less stressful The third season is really interesting because they've set up this thing where the Russians are trying to take over Estonia But it's not the Russian system. It's one of the Patriarch or one of the oligarchs. God false flag! False flag It's well, it's all kinds of this is cool. It's very interesting and so there and I think it's a great show people should watch as we're only I think 10 9 episodes or A year, it's not that big of a deal but in this particular episode they're checking in with Langley and the woman that's out at Berlin Station is having a debriefing and the guy is now concerned about some super spook

1:10:32 who is now coming out of the woodwork from the olden days, and they're concerned about this. And here's how the dialogue goes... What do you know about Gilbert Dorn? Gilbert Dorn? Same as everyone. Legend put out to pasture saw him did it all during the Cold War cast a pretty long shadow at Berlin station He never left retired in Berlin Did not know that Let me guess, he's writing a book. Worse podcast. That's right! The lowest pole of spycraft You cannot get any lower on the ladder than being an ex-spook podcaster It's the worst Congratulations I feel proud Yeah it was pretty good

1:11:31 Yeah, Ted had a clip of the day written all over it from my perspective. Well you've probably heard my clip of the day but I'm always bringing these things along just in case this was a radio show and the radio show is David Webb's radio show. He's a Fox News contributor, and he had CNN analyst Areva Martin on his show calling in, and this is what happened. Shouldn't their requirement—their primary requirement regardless of ethnicity or network be that they are capable of covering politics, for instance. If you're going to cover political campaigns sports may not be the most qualified background and that brings to the point if people want to get into these fields regardless of color I've chosen across different parts of the media world done the work so that i'm qualified to be in each one I never considered my color

1:12:28 The issue I considered my qualifications the issue. Well David, you know that's a whole other long conversation about white privilege and things that you have the privilege of doing that people of color don't have the privilege of How do i have the privilege of white privilege? David, by virtue of being a white male you have white privilege. This whole long conversation I don't have time to get into. Areeva, I hate to break it to you but you should've been better prepped. I'm black. Ro, did you hear this exchange? Yeah! It's classic. Let me play the rest of it. So beautiful. Okay then... You went to white privilege. This is the falsehood in this. You went immediately with an assumption

1:13:16 Your people obviously, or you didn't look. You're talking to a black man who started out in rock radio in Boston who crossed the paths into hip-hop rebuilding one of the greatest black stations in America and went on to work for Fox News where I'm told apparently blacks aren't supposed to work but yet...you come with this assumption and you go to white privilege that's actually insulting It is and I apologize because my people gave me wrong information. They told me the whole white privilege thing is in salt Can I apologize now wreck the record? I want to apologize I was given wrong information about you and I apologize on my color You were going to something that I was part of and just add to it My family background

1:14:09 white, black Indian, Arawak Irish Scottish I mean it's so diverse. I'm like the UN when it comes to this and this is part of the problem with driving a narrative around a construct like white privilege. Privilege is one thing where applied wealth economy various social factors but not necessarily determined by color of skin. See, I think this is such a beautiful example of exactly what is wrong today in the social justice warrior movement and white privilege and... I mean literally she was calling the guy out for having white privilege for something he said which meant that he could only have had white privilege but then when it turns out he's black then she actually apologized says well of course you don't have that

1:15:02 I mean, this just makes your head spin as to well the fact that this has not gotten a lot of...I mean it's online. We got some social media virality. It has gotten a little bit of attention Just a little bit but really I wanted to take this one step further and talk about brown privilege because i think i can point to that as well Not black-brown And this comes in the form of, well... So you have all these 2020 hopefuls. All the hopefuls and they're all doing cool stuff like AOC You know hey! We're gonna go on Instagram we got Elizabeth Warren going on Instagram we got Beto at The Dentist on Instagram and everyone's doing cool little stuff

1:15:48 And then Kamala Harris, now this is not exactly the same and part of it's a joke for Stephen Colbert shows like okay I'm gonna do a little Instagram thing which she couldn't actually do a real Instagram but so she was gonna do her...this is my what is it? Her mix. Her mood mix. I'm Kamala Harris here's my mood mix Now what do you know about Kamala Harris Well, she was a DA in California. Very poor one by the way... How about her background? Oh she's like Hawaiian and she has got some weird mix of races. Not just the mix! No. She was raised in Canada. She was born in Oakland in 1964. Right right, she is Canadian yes. She not a Canadian. She was raised in Canada

1:16:40 But her parents, her dad is from Jamaica. Her mom is a Tamil Indian She's not African American yet somehow brown color skin gives her the privilege to appropriate black culture Ah I see where you're going Hey it's Kamala Harris and this my Mood Mix A song that has always made me dance. And it's not about the songs, but how she speaks. Check the rhyme at Tribe Called Quest You know I'm talking about Fife. A song from my favorite movie. Purple Rain by Prince and Shallow by Lady Gaga Oh yeah! Okay, so it's supposed to be my favorite song at a cookout but you don't play just one song at a cookout You play a lot of songs Now she sounds like any Beyonce fan right now And I just want to say It's not appropriate

1:17:36 If we're going to talk about white privilege and appropriation and brown privilege, just because you have brown skin doesn't mean you can act like you're African-American. I can make this argument." Yeah? Well... You're making the argument now! Yeah, done. That was my argument Yeah, no she's a phony. Big phony! And it just goes on and on and on with this nude mix... Well you know people keep saying well she could be high end Lib Joes not the twosome but some other ones I know. Wait your guys are low rent? There's high-end Lib Joes?! Yes they are low rent compared to high end Lib Joe's okay we're talking about this Silicon Valley billionaire class which is high-end

1:18:21 They all think that Kamala or Kamala, I always thought it was pronounced. No she said Kamala Okay well it's Kamala but she is a candidate for president She's like a kid you know and she's dummy Shes not as dumb as AOC I will say that You like calling people dumb No, I don't. I really don't like calling people dumb. I feel bad about it. But I have to call and say what it is. If somebody's dumb like AOC... What else can I describe it? Maybe ignorant. She's ignorant. Hey! I don't like the word ignorant. Okay so I had this one clip we both watched The Golden Globes

1:19:10 Now, the guy who's nominated for pretty much everything for best actor is... they played Chaney. What's his name? The Batman guy. Yeah, Batman guy. Batman played Chaney! So Batman plays Chaney and he's British which I think and he's a very good actor because he played excellent Chaney if you've seen the movie I didn't think much of the movie. I found the movie to be very... I didn't like the movie Christian Bale Yeah, Christian Bale So we didn't play his acceptance speech? I don't believe No Well here it is Best at Golden Globes Oh here it is, I see, got it Mitch McConnell next That could be good, couldn't it Thank you to Satan for giving me inspiration on how to play this role

1:20:03 Yeah, I played Dick Cheney. Everybody got bent out of shape about that. Oh really? I thought it was funny! I think it's fine. It is funny. Oh geez... because someone didn't thank God. He said Satan. What's your take on this Gillette ad? I didn't think much of it. I thought was insulting to normal men Yeah, my immediate reaction might just see you have to see it if you listen to it It doesn't quite work I also was like really? You know I spend was it how much this so expensive their product

1:20:46 Went straight away to see if I could short the stock, but they're part of Procter & Gamble. They got some winners in there Don't want to get any traction That's actually surprising that they did something like this because proctor and gamble is notorious for being one of the greatest marketing companies in The history of United States well You know III think yeah, you got a lot of attention, but I think it worked for them No, I think it does work with him no. I think it does. I think I think it works for them I think they got the attention they wanted It was interesting that one of our producers sent the tags that they put on the video which are invisible unless you know how to look for it. They're not surfaced

1:21:27 But I'll read some of these tags that they these are in general. These are search terms They want people to find this video anti-harassment stop harassment anti bullying stop bullying modern masculinity crisis of masculinity manhood Masculinity me too movement empowerment campaign diversity empower commercial inspiration Gillette commercial and Me Too They were really going all out for this one Yeah, well they went all out i think it'll help them I do really don't. You're going by the thesis that anti-publicity is good publicity, which is a common thing and I think it applies mostly and it might apply here but generally speaking I think its just created just a little nagging ill will. Well the problem is... Especially with men who are just feel that they were insulted by a product

1:22:25 by companies whose product there's alternatives to, especially in the middle of this moment where you have all these cheap alternatives coming out of the woodwork from every which way. And it's like this is not the time to do this. What I'm more interested in because they have more marketing than just this and people are already sending around pictures of the Dutch Gillette promotion team The girls with Gillette tattoos on their ass? No, yeah but the really tight like kind of dominatrix outfits with Gillette across their butt. They're blue outfits and latex they're just tight-fitting the girls are well shaped Dude this is a mistake they're making is that they've got a worldwide brand And then they put Gillette on their butts Yeah So how does this work with the other ad I mean you trying to like... Is this even more insulting This is the short thinking This is the mistake

1:23:18 This is the mistake. Should not have let that happen, but it's hap- you know this brand doing all kinds of weird things I mean i'm not a comic book guy at all but I do know that uh... Shade the mutant drag queen superhero might be an issue well now im I'm not gonna say them less or more of a comic book fan than you are because they have collected if your copies and different things Not that I have a comic book collection per se. You are way ahead of me just even saying that. But, I have no idea what you're talking about Oh so apparently Marvel Comics has they've Iceman is one of their comics and in edition 4 there's a new drag queen superhero named Shade and she has uh...I guess she has some superpowers but it's like a mutant drag queen is now a superhero in the Marvel lineup

1:24:21 Okay, yeah and the world is changing around us. Yeah that comes around in this next movie RuPaul is a shoe-in good to go Superhero RuPaul as a superhero who would have known it would have thunk he could happen There's big like there's some sort of there must be some trade association for drag queens because they're promoting drag Queenery with little kids and the single moms who dress their boys up in dresses and these other things. It's disturbing if you ask me. Well, it's this odd transitionary phase where the idea is you can transition, you can change to be whatever you identify with or how you feel so male-to-female female-to-male but then there's this interim stage where you're just fabulous

1:25:18 And you have to celebrate that for a while. To me it seems like, well I thought you wanted to be a woman but now there seems to be this in-between... No, you just want to be fabulous! I think there's some of that too. Just in between, just be fabulous for a little while before the full transition fine by me and some of them are quite fabulous Now this, just to touch another third rail, this Steve King I want... You know, the Steve King thing is getting more interesting by the minute. I don't think-I think it had a clip last show? I have uh.. I have a quick clip just because you know it's all these things apparently what he said He's been such a racist We went over with exact quotes and we read from the thing and its not Well, you know targeting him for some other reason out why before you go on with this I did get a note from one because I'm still baffled by

1:26:12 He is the guy behind the birth begins at conception bill. So he has to go. Which this, one of our producers says this might be the reason they're targeting him because this is a nasty bill if it gets you but this kind of thing doesn't get voted through so he has to go well just looking at...so The New York Times had a rundown of all the things he said And I completely understand how you can have a certain mindset, an idea about someone or who they are. And isn't he like a tractor driver? He's from Iowa. He wasn't like basically... He's from Ohio! Isn't he?! I thought it was from Iowa. Is he from Ohio? No, he is from Iowa. He's like a farm guy

1:27:07 So, I can understand where if you already have in your mind well he's clearly a racist white nationalist. Ohio has got to be even more than Ohio for sure! So let's just look at 2002 when he filed a bill requiring schools teach that the United States is quote the unchallenged greatest nation in the world and has derived its strength from Christianity free enterprise capitalism and Western civilization yeah Now, first of all to look at anything from 2002 in a 2019 lens is complicated. But this doesn't necessarily show racism these types of comments. No! In 2005 he introduced the English Language Unity Act, a bill to make English the official language racist

1:28:02 He sued the Iowa Secretary of State for posting voting information on an official website in Spanish, Laotian, Bosnian and Vietnamese. So these are all racist things and I can totally see, understand how people who are looking for you know if you if all your is a hammer everything looks like a nail. I get it! I really do but then to say this is also completely racist from 2013... And yeah there doesn't mean that there aren't groups of people in this country that uh you know that I have sympathy for. I do and there are kids that were brought into this country by their parents unknowing that they were breaking the law

1:28:39 and they will say to me and others who defend the rule of law, we have to do something about the 11 million. And some of them are valedictorians. Well my answer to that is...and then by the way their parents brought them in it wasn't their fault It's true in some cases but they aren't all valedictorians They weren't all brought in by their parents For everyone who's a valedictorian there's another hundred out there that weigh 130 pounds and they've got calves besides the cantaloupes because they're hauling 75 pounds of marijuana across the desert Now, this is somehow racist. Is there a misunderstanding? Maybe I'm misinterpreting what he's saying. What I understand him to say is either there are people who have so many drugs strapped to them that their calves look like cantaloupes and they've just got all this dope strapped to their body or two they carry so much drugs that their calves have blown up to the size of cantaloupes. I'm not quite sure which one it is... Either one who cares How is this an real issue

1:29:38 Well, they're out to get this guy now you were reading I realized some of the New York Times article Which is another thing the New York Times is all in on this. Let's get Steve King I have a technical question for you Yeah Because this is this I noticed this immediately and this in the most recent fracas The one that really set everyone off here in this In this New York Times article I'll read the paragraph before and then the offending paragraph when I have a techniclan technical question Okay At the same time, he said he supports immigrants who enter the country legally and fully assimilate because what matters more than race is quote the culture of America end quote based on values brought to United States by whites from Europe. This is not a quote now comes the quote white nationalist white supremacist Western civilization How did that language become offensive? Mr King said why did I sit in classes teaching me about the merits of our history and our civilization

1:30:31 So, that apparently was incredibly offensive. But here's the thing in his quote white nationalist and it's in quotes white is capitalized White supremacist Is not capitalized but then Western civilization is capitalized Why did the second white not get capitalized? White nationalists, white supremacists, Western civilization. So white supremacist is not capitalism No Well, I think it's because... That is a technical detail that the New York Times has a lot of editors who have nothing better to do but determine whether something should be capitalized or not. Seriously! There's a future for me? And they made the determination that white- The first one was white nationalists capitalized

1:31:26 which means it's like a standalone item. White supremacist is like, a thing that is not stand alone It's just an attitude or way of being instead of being a group. It can't be categorized as a group Whereas white nationalists can and white supremacist is more of a way of being It's not part of it of an institution Right, and the last one which was Western civilization is they thing as a group is also a group kind of a thing I think it's illegal the way they did it. The What is probably the most egregious actually is the Western Civilization part? I think that's what people take the most offense to lot of them

1:32:09 So it I mean, I also don't understand the Greeks and if you say nationalist But you know he did if he actually said white supremacist. Yeah what how can you not find that language offensive? so He screwed up there big time but just all the stuff that's brought in your right there out to get this guy yeah No They're out to get him and we're talking about starting with The New York Times which for example We had Jill Abramson who, uh... The Berkeley Hummer. Who said- do you have a clip from her? That perfect clip? Yeah I can get it while you finish yeah? Yeah well Jill Abramson butt slammed the New York Times for being irrational about Trump and then kind of ruining their journalism chops A few months ago on Al Jazeera

1:33:02 Hirsch, Seymour Hirsch was floating around promoting his book Reporter and he was asked specifically about journalism in the United States from this kind of a douchebag interviewer. And I want to play that clip of Hirsch on journalism is what he thinks of journalism. I think it's going to hell Now, what you have is if you don't like Trump You read the New York Times and Washington Post And watch certain cable shows CNN If you like Trump, you watch Fox News and you read other papers But they're not equal though are ya? That's buying into a Trump narrative. Fox News is not the same as The New York Times. The New York Times still does good journalism in the way that Fox News doesn't. But the credibility of The New York Times because it's so hostile to him Maybe legitimately but over-the-top I think They've gone way over-the-top In terms of... Like writing an anonymous letter

1:33:53 How is that any different from my assertion that journalism is just an invalid profession no longer should exist He didn't say that. No, I know but I did yeah, well then that's how it's different Anyway, you have Jill you have Jill there so we just get a feeling for her Obviously, I read the New York Times like all day long mainly on my iPad app Can't get enough of that Okay, do you have some of her or? No I got nothing. Just a gratuitous Jill Abramson and why not! And why not?! So the New York Times is out to get King...I don't know maybe he's- I have no idea what the what's behind it but they're out to get him yeah I mean i think it's possible that all these elements are all put together as like hey this guy's bad let's get rid of him I mean they tried to get them voted out this last election cycle and couldn't do it

1:34:53 Yeah, but he barely won right? Uh yeah. He barely won but he won Well you know what I'll be boots on the ground in Iowa in about a month Maybe I'll learn something You will be able to do some Q&A Some boot on the ground I betcha somebody in Iowa would come up and say here's the reason that they're going after Steve King And it's gonna be something probably that we don't know That's a hint for you showing up for that meetup people Yes On the 22nd of February DateToBeDeterminedMeetUp.com 22nd of February is a date. Yes, you said you mean time to be determined? A place to be determined! Place to be determined! Thank you for keeping me honest. Honest yes

1:35:38 I've got some other social justice warrior stuff, a little bit of outrage. Well while we're on that topic let's go to the Lear Foundation. I got some new clips from the guy who started it. Ah okay do we need to explain The Lear Foundation? Probably good idea. I think you should explain it and maybe play the original clip and then I have some additional clips that I think work well Okay, well why don't you start while I look up the clip? Okay. Well the Lear Foundation was actually a it's just it's a subset of the Lear foundation which runs out of USC and It is a group of people that's got a certain name to health into something Hollywood Health & Society Hollywood Health & Society and as its for all practical purposes a lobbying group

1:36:22 that lobbies writers working in LA mostly to do certain kinds of stories. Oh, it's beyond that if you look at how they operate they offer free experts so if you're doing a show... It's in the clips yeah If your disaster movie they'll get someone for ya here's the backgrounder that we... jeez I don't even know how old this is Let me see if I can find out when we first... Well, most of these revelations came this the clips. I have are from 2013 Yeah, this is yeah The clips i have are the guy who founded it Yeah This is from 2013 as well I think so here's a quick understanding

1:37:01 So in the course of our work, this is a two years 11 to 13 335 storylines that we worked on Have been aired. We've worked with 35 networks in the past four years 91 different television shows yeah They got some numbers for sure Yeah I have the same dad that clip too but it has some additional things at that kind Let's start with some additional information that is kind of interesting. Let's hear Lear Kaplan Writers' Meetings, and he has a little bit more on that clip. So we will put on a topic that is of interest to us and we hope it's of interest to writers so in that year or recently addiction fact-and-fiction A World Of Stories which is about global health stories

1:37:56 Place matters, which is about the in particular how income is a huge determinant of public health. Beyond Aaron Brockovich something about toxins in the environment who shall live and who shall die and why? Which was about violence an unnecessary deaths from disease so in this way by putting on these briefings We are in some ways choosing topics to get them onto the radar screen of writers, but it's all voluntary. It's there if you want to come great we wanna throw a spotlight on it similarly we call the writers, the show runners and we say you know the most marvelous expert is coming to town next week this person knows everything there is about

1:38:50 epidemiology or biological warfare. We thought your writers might be interested, we'd like to bring him or her in for an hour and almost always they say yes so even though we are a resource where especially friendly and a little bit aggressive resource trying to bring to the attention of writers issues of prominence And by the way, the people that we bring to the writers' rooms turn out often to be the basis for characters that appear in series. Because of that, we pay special attention to having women and minority scientists and doctors

1:39:35 among the people who come, because that illustrates without saying a word about it that these are people that do this kind of work. Excellent! You're doing God's work. Great stuff. We should remind the listening audience that Norman Lear produced All in the Family, Archie Bunker. And just to show you the power of Norman Lear's work, Archie Bunker the guy at the time as we've discussed before on this show was your typical middle-class white collar working Democrat however... No blue collar! Blue collar I'm sorry not white collar but blue collar However he was branded as a Republican As a Republican racist Which was not

1:40:23 You said your dad was very much like Archie Bunker. Everybody's dad was back then and they were Democrats and they were all Democrats So that'll work for a living as how powerful way you have to put it do you work for a living? Yeah, very powerful Powerful stuff made them somehow made them Republicans in there not there was never a Republican in the group And their Archie Bunker character was a was a stereotypical Democrat Union guy And it was so effective that Rob Reiner is still mentally disturbed from that whole era. Yes, he is! He's been confused his brain with scrap. Very scrambled So I got a kind of kick out of this following thing This is Lear Kaplan climate changes. So in the course of our work this is In two years 11 to 13 335 storylines that we worked on

1:41:18 have been aired. We've worked with 35 networks in the past four years, 91 different television shows we have brand new aspect of Hollywood Health and Society, which is to work with on the topic of climate change. Where again all these different activities writer briefings screenings newsletters and so on are in attempt to provide free resources to writers who want to include climate change as one of the storylines that they're working on

1:41:55 And just to give you an example of that climate change work, a few weeks ago there was a field trip. We do something called story bus tours to the JPL NASA lab in Pasadena where we brought something like 37 writers and producers to experience the most amazing stuff that they have going on to inspire them in this area. Amazing! So we get the propaganda coming in from every which way, of course nobody counters this. And it's free writing and I was wondering about that do these Hollywood Health & Society writers do they get writing credit? No

1:42:37 They're a good consulting credit. When they bring the experts in and some expert wants to do a little extra work, he's like you know we'd like to bring on to help us with this story. You get a consulting gig? No no no, your writers guild controls how those credits are doled out and these guys don't get any credits. So I found that last little tidbit to be the one that was most interesting to me Which is Laird Kaplan, 23. How did they get their money? When I started Hollywood Health & Society it was the first program that we started so it is now about to enter its 10th year

1:43:22 We are funded largely by the US federal government and our number one sponsor since the beginning has been the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. And other agencies that have supported us are the division of transplantation of the Department of Health and Human Services, The National Institutes of Health, The White House Office of National Drug Control Policy and the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality. And in recent years our federal funding has been joined by private philanthropy in the

1:44:04 funds from the California Endowment and also from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Now there's your borderline clip of the day! That's enough to make you cringe. So, by the way this speech was given in 2013 so we have to add another four or five six years I'm sure there are tons more fun people financing that Yeah, this guy must be... This is out of the University of Southern California or as we used to call it in the Pac-12. The university has spoiled children They have this little group right out of the Annenberg School and I think it's deplorable

1:44:50 I think it's the fact that there is nothing to counter this. This is propaganda, a propaganda mill! It certainly for in the day that might have hit up against the Smith-Munt Act and then it truly is propagandistic and the government is paying for it. Well, it takes advantage of the fact that... And I'll say this from probably a reasonable perspective That generally speaking writers are lazy And in the journalist area, they are fed stuff by public relations agencies traditionally. Nowadays they're just paid extra money and told to write a native ad but that's different. This is similar situation where you instead of having public relations agencies knocking on the door saying hey we wanted you to promote climate change they have this

1:45:38 Right out of the J school, Danenberg School at USC. They bring these guys out and fellow journalists... I feel that this needs to be disclosed if this has taken place? You know, it's like how much of this... so for instance in everything we're seeing how much of eating bugs is coming from the Lear Foundation? Is that something they are advocating? That's a good question to ask. Will I put a call in to Kaplan and say I want do an interview with him? Aha!

1:46:16 Now, whether or not this ever happens is another... Did you say go ahead and listen to episode 1104? We'll be talking about it. Listen to this! Listen to this episode but if the guy's got any chops if he believes in what he's doing he would gladly have an interview to tell me where I'm wrong For instance What's happening now? It's interesting that it CDC so it's health oriented. That's why Bill and Melinda Gates are in this because they can all everything they do is under the guise of health Yeah, and I guess climate change for your health seems we're all gonna die voting Democrats for your health for your health what's this This meat stuff. I'd go the CES they had

1:46:59 Fake meat, everywhere there's meat. People trying to recreate meat... Now the meat industry is... It's about climate change! Yes the meat industry is trying to protect The term and word meat So that you can't use it if its not meat I agree with them. Guys yes Here there was an Israeli firm Alaf Farms And they say They actually have grown real meat in a lab. I think this is going to be the greatest revolution in the history of modern agriculture. This lab-grown meat is not just a plant based alternative like the Impossible Burger There's a technology that exists that allows us, for all intents and purposes have our bacon and eat it too without any pigs being harmed Cultured meat Lab grown meat Clean meat Whatever you want to call it Is identical to conventional meats at the cellular level

1:48:03 grown in a lab, no slaughter involved. Its arrival could have massive implications for meat eaters the US's $200 billion dollar meat industry and the environment and it is happening at a pivotal time We can't handle more agriculture And this growing demand is asking precisely that and we're going to reach a breaking point Breaking point, breaking point, breaking point you know what that means So they have done it at the cellular level. So they've cloned meat? Yeah, kinda I guess. Now I'm curious about that! Well let's just take meat for example Let's take a nice juicy steak. Let's take New York steak

1:48:58 Now, when you eat a New York, you cook it for different amounts of rareness. You can have very rare and overcooked and the steak will toughen up when you cook it too much. And then if you compare to another cut of meat which has some connective tissue within it in those...which you could make into a stew there's all these different ways of cooking meat that had been developed for hundreds of years And there's different qualities to the finished product, to the point where you can bite into a lousy piece of meat from one of the lousy meat growers and you chew on it and go this is terrible. I don't like this meat. You spit it out. Then there's optimal meat, really good prime filet or let's say New York strip. How about that sirloin from Costco?

1:49:48 And you bite into a good prime piece of meat and it's got the right mouthfeel, the right texture, the right flavors. They can't do that in a lab. No, everything they showed... It's gonna be grisly it's going to be grainy or chewy like a dried... Let me just tell you... You'd never have a dried grapefruit... Hold on! Everything they make everything they show is not steak it looks like hamburger ground beef you know it's grind they're not making steaks. Yeah, it's gonna be ground beef. Hamburgers from McDonald's what I believe is gonna happen

1:50:24 They're going to start experimenting with this by slipping it in. So you can have the hamburger will be contaminated because there is, I think a rule where you can't call it a hamburger after this so much contaminated wood pulp or whatever they like to put into these burgers. No, it's silicone. No, there's actually a wood pulp. It's some sort of... No don't you remember it was no Taco Bell had like sand? Oh that's Taco Bell they get some other who knows what they're doing. It's meat! It's meat and sand Yeah they got a bunch of weird stuff in their meat but this will go into the Taco Bell taco yeah and it won't be much of a difference you know 10% 20% and it'll save them a bunch of money maybe I don't even know if it's gonna be that cheap

1:51:05 No, it's just gonna oh of course. It won't be cheap they'll be gouging people with this technology It's to save the world you have to spend extra to save the world Save the World taco 10 bucks but hey climate change problem eat it hmm What else we got? Well, you know... Okay. We had the confirmation hearing in the Senate of the proposed or the nominated attorney general a very interesting choice this Bill Barr. Yeah I've been watching some of this and i will have to say that woman for that senator from Hawaii Hirono whatever her name is... Oh she's the worst!

1:51:52 She is a moron. Do you have any clips of her? No, I couldn't stand it. I got one of her fighting back against her fellow Islander Tulsi Gabbard who was announced she's running for 2020 but we can't have Tulsi Gabbard because back when President Obama didn't want same-sex marriage she had the same idea now she did reform But just like Obama did. Yeah, but it was a little too late! Senator I also want to ask you about the 2020 primary your fellow Hawaiian legislator Tulsi Gabbard has made clear she's going to run in 2020 but she's run into some trouble over past opposition to LGBT rights as well with her ties to Assad do you think you could support Congresswoman Gabbard in her bid for 2020?

1:51:05 No, it's just gonna oh of course. It won't be cheap they'll be gouging people with this technology It's to save the world you have to spend extra to save the world Save the World taco 10 bucks but hey climate change problem eat it hmm What else we got? Well, you know... Okay. We had the confirmation hearing in the Senate of the proposed or the nominated attorney general a very interesting choice this Bill Barr. Yeah I've been watching some of this and i will have to say that woman for that senator from Hawaii Hirono whatever her name is... Oh she's the worst!

1:51:52 She is a moron. Do you have any clips of her? No, I couldn't stand it. I got one of her fighting back against her fellow Islander Tulsi Gabbard who was announced she's running for 2020 but we can't have Tulsi Gabbard because back when President Obama didn't want same-sex marriage she had the same idea now she did reform But just like Obama did. Yeah, but it was a little too late! Senator I also want to ask you about the 2020 primary your fellow Hawaiian legislator Tulsi Gabbard has made clear she's going to run in 2020 but she's run into some trouble over past opposition to LGBT rights as well with her ties to Assad do you think you could support Congresswoman Gabbard in her bid for 2020?

1:52:42 I'm going to be looking for someone who has a long record of supporting progressive goals and ideals. And, I certainly wish all of our candidates the best because it is going to be a long hard race and so...I wish everyone well but for myself In these times of what I would call not normal times, I want someone who is very much has been on the page in terms of supporting equal opportunity choice. All the kinds of issues that that I have been fighting for decades. It sounds like you don't think Tulsi Gabbard has done it? Well, I wish her well though as I do all of the other candidates. Oh man! I like Tulsi

1:53:25 Yeah, I'm not a big fan. You think everyone's dumb? Everybody is dumb! No, I don't think she's dumb at all. I would not put that moniker on Tulsi Gabbard Good you don't like her. I just don't like her because she's on this Council of Foreign Relations and nobody talks about it. That's the problem. Everyone has got issues. Everyone has got problems. You went to the OWL meeting Do what the owl I did? What is that called again, I forget what it's called he me and grow but he can grow yeah you Illuminati Yeah, yeah It's like talking about your drinking club. Well. I wanted to continue here because I want to go too well We're gonna talk mentioned that Kristen Kirsten Kristen whatever her name is Gillibrand has also thrown her hat in the ring No we were gonna talk about bar That's where I was and you brought up the wrong are ya back-to-bar cuz I have a couple clips of

1:54:17 So, he was... so we need a new attorney general because Rod Rosenstein or Steen is apparently resigning. Getting thrown out? I don't know. You know he's complicit God knows. So this is the guy who was... He was Attorney General correct for H... Bush 1? Yeah, HW. And so I guess it's kind of like bringing the guy with experience and you know he said don't worry about all that Bob Bob Bob is a buddy Bob my big bud Bob Bob Bob Bob Bob Bob Bob Bob take care of it Bob around Barbara Barbarino Bob Moran But when it came to what's actually going on with things that affect us really affect us such as

1:55:03 Privacy, data sharing, tracking. The guy is completely and utterly clueless. I mean... Oh he's old school? No! He doesn't deserve to have the job You got to have a whole... well, these clips will prove it. Here is the first one and this is actually Senator Josh Hawley Republican from Missouri asking the questions and he's going to ask couple of questions about how he would as Attorney General would work with and handle some of the issues surrounding social media companies in Silicon Valley in general. Just on the subject of ownership of data As you know Facebook is currently subject to 2011 consent decree

1:55:46 as part of which it agreed not to release or share or sell personal user information without the knowledge and consent of its users. Facebook's CEO, Mark Zuckerberg has adamantly insisted under oath as recently as April 10th 2018 that on Facebook users have complete control those are his words, over everything that they share. However as I'm sure you're aware recent media reports have indicated that Facebook in fact routinely has shared user information without users consent or even knowledge now the Justice Department has the authority to enforce the terms of the 2011 consent decree and potentially to prosecute any violation will you consider doing so?

1:56:28 Well, because that is something I might have to get involved with and supervise if I'm confirmed. I'd rather not make any comments about it right now Okay, so okay. Wow great yeah the guy doesn't know what he's talking about I'm sure he does and he probably thinking to himself who got shot is anyone using a gun? Here's mission of a crime is there anything going on as a communist involved well the senator from Missouri Is going to try to explain this to him and saying hey man You know this like em There's a hampering of the flow of information we got

1:57:04 de-platforming going on. There's all kinds of crazy stuff! Let me ask you this, these same technology companies also control the flow of information or... The flow? No they don't control the flow but okay. ...at least influence it. The flow of information to consumers to an unprecedented degree I mean you have to go way back in American history to find any analog back to the paper trusts to find an analog of a group, small group of companies that control the information and influence the news in its flow to Americans to the extent that these companies do. And there's growing evidence

1:57:41 have leveraged their considerable market power, if not monopoly status to disfavor certain ideological viewpoints particularly conservative and libertarian viewpoints. Do you think the Department of Justice has authority under the antitrust laws or consumer protection laws or other laws to address bias by dominant online platforms. I would just say generally, you know, I wouldn't think it would... You know, I'd have to think long and hard before I said that it was really the stuff of an antitrust matter On the other hand, it could involve issues of disclosure And implicate other laws like that He has no clue

1:58:24 I agree. And also, neither does Holly from Missouri the data that's important is not your pick yeah there's some value yes for scanning and getting your facial recognition and your friends but that's the data that is not yours that's Facebook's data they created that they have their SDK in all the apps to get all the data that's their data at least how they view it a complete disconnect between what these jimokes in Congress feel data is and what it's really about. And this guy, he just stock answer unsatisfactory. Okay well you can bitch and moan about this character all you want but who could they possibly put up there for this job that

1:59:12 that would know anything. I don't care, i don't give a crap! I just want to play these clips Is there any point do you think at which political bias could require response and I'm thinking for example Harvard Law professor Jonathan Zittrain has written how Google or Facebook for example could manipulate their algorithms to significantly swing voter turnout to favor a candidate of their choice with that sort of conduct require response from the department? I'd have to think about that I'd like to know more about the phenomena and what laws could be implicated by it. Well, that's at least an honest answer

1:59:50 And that, I think and it's Facebook actually has done massive experiment with more than...I think was five or six million people to see if they could motivate them to vote. And they did and it is published and we've talked about on the show. Yeah But nothing really comes quite close as what...and I'm happy to see that people are catching onto this and they're analyzing it and the media is doing this but I think this is CBS This Morning even It's not the real issue what's going on, but they at least people are aware of and when I saw this Happen it was over the weekend that it started this Post a selfie of you today and ten years ago Yeah Everybody's posting a selfie of you in 10. The first I saw this is like yeah

2:00:39 Yeah, I'm not gonna do that. This is clear something's up with this and CBS this morning did a pretty good job But they missed the main point I think Facebook Twitter and Instagram users are posting photos of themselves a decade apart with the hashtag 10 year challenge some well-known people have gotten in on the fun but the millions of publicly shared photos can be a treasure trove of information for companies working with facial recognition artificial intelligence Data and emerging technology consultant Kate O'Neill warned in a Wired opinion piece that's out right now, thanks to this meme there is now a very large data set of carefully curated photos of people from roughly 10 years ago. And now similar concerns were raised last year about Google Arts & Culture app

2:01:21 It matched people with artwork that supposedly looked like them. Google says it discarded user selfies once the matches were found. The website PopSugar released its own app for finding celebrity doppelgangers, the company later revealed photos submitted for its twinning challenge were initially stored on an unsecure server Also many Instagram users who created collages of their top nine most liked posts in 2018 may have given their email addresses and other user data to a company in Uruguay. Really? Wow! Regarding the 10-year challenge, Facebook told CBS News quote our face recognition symptoms are not tracking studying or aware of this meme wired senior writer and CBS News contributor Izzy Lepowski is here good morning. Good morning. So Facebook says look this was a user generated meme they didn't have anything to do with it but

2:02:09 But how could Facebook use these photos? Right. So there's nothing inherently bad about about this. It was all in good fun, generated by users but what we have to think about is what we're giving away when we're having this fun right? And so in the case of the 10-year challenge it is this streamlined organized data set that shows what you look like ten years ago and what you look like now and if you are trying to train a machine learning algorithm to learn how people age this is something that Facebook could do this is something other researchers might want to do This gives you a pretty nifty way of doing that So I think that's a red herring because that's not what's going on here. I think it well, my hair might not be a red herring but i like the idea I was gonna post something I just didn't hit him too lazy I was gonna post a picture of an old black man That would be me 10 years ago and then some other you know yoda or some others there's just some other picture of someone Some other racist mean oldies nick nolte's mugshot now that would have worked that would have been good

2:03:07 I used Nick Nolte's mug shot with his hair disheveled. And you know, just some random two photos and saying well, I look a little better now. So my view on this is... It seems like it's proof Yeah, here are the things that actually do...that are intended to get information from you and learn about you and profile you. Yeah maybe these pics may be this particular meme but i don't think so The games like do you know all these top 10 songs from the 80s? Those are all about tracking and getting information on you. In this case, I think it's pure... And this may be the only thing that Silicon Valley really is going after is how can we move the needle just a little bit? How can we make you do something? And I think that's what this is about. What can we create that you will engage with

2:04:01 And if you look at what the, now we've seen the Brexit. Actually we've heard the actual Brexit guy Dominic Cummings talking about what he used We've heard Pascal, the Trump digital guy about what he used All they're looking for continuously is What words? What color? What button to click can we use to make someone do something when we want them to Yeah buy something! Yes Buy is the low-hanging fruit. I think that's just that's just the beginning you tell that to our donors on today show We've got a you gotta engage some AI and ML to make sure this stuff works man, that's what it's all about we had again by the way, I got a note from a producer that who knows somebody in the higher echelons of the White House and he or she said that

2:05:02 There are people writing tweets for Trump could be that he doesn't write tweets That has to do with Silicon Valley trying to get you to buy stuff or click stuff Well, I think it's part of the same of dub. Just say is the same as all Yeah, alright blogosphere yes well There's a there's a lot of interesting things happen Tim Cook actually wrote an op-ed in Time magazine and About the data brokers because that's really what it's about and yeah, it's about what you're clicking online but until you integrate that with the data broker who has your credit card or your debit card transaction history That's when it gets interesting

2:05:49 Tim Cook is writing in Time magazine, we all deserve control over our digital lives. That's why we must rein in the data brokers! So he's on a jihad against the data brokers. Of course that's what he's trying to tell us at the iPhone you're protected while Australia just passed a law that all digital platforms must be prepared to give Unencrypted encrypted data with some kind of key to decrypt upon request yeah, that's all Australia Nazis well You're on a roll today Well they are part of five eyes which makes it very interesting because they share data amongst us and the UK in New Zealand And who's the other one at Canada Canada Navia? Yeah so you know

2:06:46 Best thing is just not to just don't say anything. Just sit at home You can do what I do with my phone yeah, take it off the hook you can even you can't even watch Roku anymore Roku is they become such a tracking advertising, you know because of course they built some cool boxes They couldn't make enough money or they have to make more. They went public so you have to have a 20% increase continuously and Of course they got caught in the old well within like three days We're gonna put Alex Jones on our platform because we feel that, you know it's free speech blah blah blah. Three days later they de-platform him

2:07:27 Well because people said that we got a lot of pushback from the community No your advertisers news to me brand-new. Yeah happened yesterday I know that they they said they're gonna put Alex Jones on the platform, and I'm thinking to myself Okay, it's on the platform. I go is if I want to watch Alex Jones. I could see him online he's still there yeah on the internet and So I heard that they were gonna put him by no, they kicked him off already. That's pretty lame That's pretty that's that's not a good sign. That's a very this gutless wonder kind of a move well here they said Before they took them off which was just days ago we're on neutral platform We're neutral and we just Roku's decision to allow the channel at all. Oh wait, that's not a quote. I'm looking for a quote Okay can't find a quote

2:08:22 Just a couple days later, they take him off. After the InfoWars channel became available we heard from concerned parties, sleeping giants and have determined that the channel should be removed from our platform. Platform? Deletion from the Channel Store on Platform has begun and will be completed shortly! Do not move or it will only hurt more during the deplatforming process What if Pluto put him on what would happen then? Well Pluto is is on Roku so then Pluto would be de-platformed. Yeah, well I think the cat channel's a problem quite honestly if you want to de-platform anything it's the cat channel. I love the cat channel don't take off the cat channel! And we continue our romp through

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2:20:08 Oh, man it was a weird story in California. Yeah about this about the officer who was killed? Was that the woman I was was that in Davis, California? Well, there's a bunch of people getting killed in California everywhere. Is this the woman that had the police flag and was all bent out of shape about it? I don't know listen to this... No it wasn't a woman. They found a letter, open face on the bed. Davis Police Lieutenant Paul Dorshoff showed reporters this six line type written letter with the signature line typed out citizen Kevin Limbaugh This is a photo of Kevin Douglas Limbaugh now identified as the gunman who killed officer Natalie Corona before turning one on himself inside his home

2:21:01 His letter offers new information about his mindset the night of his deadly attack. We can only speculate that it was there to be seen immediately, but it was certainly in a position where could be seen immediately The letter reads the Davis Police Department has been hitting me with ultrasonic waves meant dogs from barking I notified the press internal affairs and even the FBI about it I am highly sensitive to its effect on my inner ear I did my best to appease them, but they have continued for years and i can't live this way anymore. That's quite the accusation of course yes this was kind of a story floating around but it was kind of superseded by another story well you know that you know the cops they found out what it was what he was complaining about of the supersonic weapon yeah well was it crickets

2:21:50 I guess I walked into that one. Way in the door was so open! Well, at least I didn't try to...I didn't kill it No true Well, so this woman before she was a policewoman a couple years earlier. She was shown dancing and holding a blue line flag Oh You familiar with the blue line? No I'm not. It's the blue line and red line flag no is it the blue line? It's an American flag that's in all black except there is a blue line In the middle of it represents Police. Oh, okay the thin blue line Yeah and it represents the police and it just commemorates or celebrates if you want to call it that all The police that were killed in the line of duty there's also a red one for the fire department

2:22:38 So she's held now all of a sudden, especially around here. They're all bent out of shape about the flag now has become according to the me too people it's become a symbol of racism Oh what? The blue for the blue line flag is a symbol of racism. I'm going oh yeah, I wish they had a clip so i think i can have one for the next show but yes It's a major major major symbol of racism. So anyone who do has that flag or displays up flags are racist Wow wow Yeah There was a story that caught my eye mainly because I know how to pronounce it. Willamette? Most people don't know how to pronounce willamette How would you pronounce it otherwise Oh, people say Wil-a-mette oh no It's always been will amit yeah and I know that because

2:23:26 I got my fixed-wing license at Willamette. Oh, well i know it because my daughter went to University of Willamette Well... It's pretty crappy up there in Willamette listen to this The sign is up at River Place There was no dumping of sewage in the marina whether treated or not Vessels suspected of dumping will be asked to leave I do see feces I see waste, bags of waste that's clearly from somebody living on the river. Marlon Bump is the harbormaster here at the private pay-by-month facility and just a few feet away... We have a couple boats over here that have been on the docks for a little bit of time Is this city owned dock with two transient boats tied up? More than a few days and it's trespassing but there are few Rangers to enforce it There some of the 54 boats on the state watch list right now

2:24:16 compared to 85 in 2016. We got a tour around Ross Island to show you close up some of these transient boats. Homeless folks buy them for a few hundred dollars off salvage dealers, they don't have working motors to get to shore and pump out sewage or drop off garbage no lights are anchors to be seen and some like the one two weeks ago along the East Bank Esplanade are so dangerous they catch on fire written warnings to move along last summer did nothing now anyone living aboard these is trespassing. The Department of State Lands plans to start seizing some of the worst offenders at $4,000 a pop and towing them out." But right now we need to get the feces out of the water. Yeah, turds out of the water. So as I'm listening to this it hits me our exit! We missed... Turd removal? No better than that. We're kind of doing that now. Ha ha ha.

2:25:13 There's a homelessness problem in America that is really bad. And in Austin, we see it too. It's all under the highways, under bridges...it's tent camps! The solution and we kind of missed out on the no agenda tents but we have another shot Are you ready for it? I'm all ears. Inflatable bouncy castles, you see we take the basic inflatable bouncy castle and of course no agenda on them We outfit them with some pockets and stuff so you can put all your gear in there And you can just line them up on any river they're easy to deploy You could snap them together So all your homeless friends you could have like a

2:26:00 A convoy, you know? You can have a whole platoon. You can be a big float and it's perfect! Yeah, yeah. Come on! Keep digging We can brand this we can brand a Noah agenda Not even branded but I don't know if you see one of these things floating out to sea No no you're talking about choppers flying around Who's behind this? Can you imagine that promotion okay now just making my point for me It would definitely get some attention yes especially with those floating out the sea with the Coast Guard choppers But unfortunately they probably sent us a bill Flotilla was the word i'm looking for Flotilla yeah there is a pun in there too

2:26:38 Well, I like the idea. I never heard by the way this clip was interesting to me because the homeless houseboat dwellers because right now in Berkeley, they're big thing in the Berkeley area East Bay and San Francisco of course has been this way forever The East Bay has got these people who buy or rent these RVs and they live in those. Yes, yes. And it's fabulous. They're everywhere. And they're everywhere! There are certain streets where there lined up... just a slew of them all lined up maybe like 50 of them. You gotta imagine- Just garbage everywhere all around us So what is the biggest problem with that type of situation? you have an RV it's broken down won't go anywhere so you have to drag

2:27:23 With the bouncy castle idea, you just put the peep on the bouncy castle and you can move them wherever you want them to. So we're gonna move you guys over here. The flotilla goes along and it's perfect! Back to reality... Okay I'll stop. These are these rollers i never thought the creativity have to give him credit up in portland for coming up with the idea of finding all the band and beat up pieces of crap and by the way a crappy houseboat piece of crap house boat is kind of redundant. And you could kind of fit in except you're not paying your monthly dues to be moored anywhere. But yeah, I think it's not a bad thing these houseboat...homeless...houseboats for the homeless! We have a lot of people living on house boats in Austin. House boats for the homeless? Okay, house boats...Austin River? Howdy. Houseboats for the homeless and bouncy castles for bums. I'm telling you, It's an idea

2:28:27 Yes, we have lots of houseboats in Austin. They're big! They're big houseboats Are they for the homeless? No they are for rich people Not yet That's the only correct answer I just got an interesting note from The Keeper Yeah So we have kind of ties into this story so Nancy Pelosi has said to the president you can't come to our house and do your State of the Union until Stop the shutdown and pass the appropriations bill. Now, she has that right I presume? She can do that, I guess? Yeah yeah it's an invitation The reason she rationalizes this...and I'm in total agreement with this She says they since they don't have any they can't afford their security

2:29:19 I think that's right. Oh really? Well let's go to CNN and listen to Phil Mudd, notorious CIA shill and let's see what he has to say about it. Do you believe that this is a real national security threat? You're gonna have all 100 senators 435 members of the house the diplomatic corps or the Supreme Court justices you're gonna have members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff uh... the entire cabinet with one so-called designated survivor who doesn't come because of a god forbid some sort of security incident that is this illegitimate security concern heck no i mean this is political genius i give nancy pelosi credit for her political sense it's national security nonsense we're talking about

2:30:04 less than 60 acres in the huge national security threats of US senators, US congressmen members of the cabinet Supreme Court justices and guests of for example of the president. And that's that we can't secure 58 acres? Are you kidding me? There's 40,000 plus flights every day in this country. Wolf they're still flying in the FAA which in the midst of this crisis is still operating can manage 40,000 plus flights and we can't do 58 acres I applaud her for coming up with a genius of trying to corner the president on this but from a national security perspective This is a Kardashian moment. This is fake

2:30:44 How dare you disagree with Phil Mudd? You're wrong. Wrong again, Dvorak. This is some CIA reason they want to do it. Oh yeah. I would...I think that she's correct and there's no...and you know he's going to give the State of the Union address at some point and it's gonna be whenever it is. I don't care if it's not a big deal. According to The Keeper who just sent me a message Trump just cancelled Pelosi's trip to Belgium, Egypt and Afghanistan because of the shutdown and said she can go but she has to fly commercial. A little back and forth. Well, there's 800 000 people who haven't been paid it's getting a little complicated for people they're gonna have to do something about this in fact I got a little clip from PBS work recall no pay they're doing this stunt which has gotta irk people also today the federal aviation administration called another 2200 aviation safety inspectors back to work

2:31:45 and the IRS recalled to work 46,000 furloughed employees 60 percent of its workforce to handle tax returns and refunds. None of the workers in either agency will be paid." Yeah there was an interview with Trish Gilbert she's executive vice president at The Union, The National Air Traffic Controllers Association And I think it's worth listening to what she had to say Because her message is clear, you know obviously it's a stressful job. You know not having enough people is stressful but she... Her mind I'm not quite sure where her mind is she seems like a very political person let's just have a listen here In the air Is there any reason why people flying should be concerned that there's not enough man and woman power to keep planes safe as they're flying?

2:32:37 Well, you know each day that this shutdown continues the situation gets worse and worse. There are several complicated complex layers in our system to ensure... Just so you know several complicated complex layers in our system? That is a bunch of gobbledygook if I ever heard it! Yeah yeah that's a good one Several complicated complex layers in our system to ensure that it maintains the critical safety components that we all rely on when we fly What we don't want to see catastrophic event occur and for us to come to you and say we told you that controllers are working longer hours they now they don't have their support staff they're going to work unpaid so they're not sleeping at night, they're looking for other jobs. I'd like the conclusion...I mean yes i can see this stress but she's gonna be very careful when you say these things like and I also think the air traffic controllers who were there should be a little pissed off with this woman

2:33:30 They're very capable of doing it also shorthanded. They've done this a lot though, you know, oh well You not getting you can't sleep aid so they're not sleeping at night. They're looking for other jobs Maybe they're driving uber before after their shift This is unacceptable and we cannot come to this country and expect these people to continue to It's also weird. We cannot come to this country and expand I don't understand is she talking about immigrants or she talking about the shutdown? Or just just know it's this again She's the executive vice president of the National Association national air traffic controllers association This is ahead of the union paid so they're not sleeping at night They're looking for other jobs, maybe they're driving uber before after their shift This is unacceptable And we cannot

2:34:15 come to this country and expect these people to continue to work without pay. How long can they do that? We cannot come to this country? I know, that's what i said. She's weird but she continues. These people to continue to work without pay how long can they do that? Quite alarming to raise the possibility of a catastrophic event are you saying that the effect of this shutdown just in terms of folks not sleeping uh not having some people have been called back but not all those workers have been called back are you saying that is it is a reasonable credible concern? I'm saying the system is disruptive or disrupted another one is disruptive

2:34:53 I don't know, she's got other things in her mind. Are you saying that is a reasonable credible concern? I'm saying the system is disruptive or disrupted and the people need to be focused on the job they're paid to do Unfortunately they are not getting paid to do it right now They need 100% focus They need not to be fatigued They need not to be worried about whether their going to have sell there house Whether their going to leave this profession altogether Now, the air traffic controllers is interesting by itself. We went for a long time without them when they had the walkout under Reagan? Right And he wound up firing all of them Yeah You guys walked out You're outta here I believe there is also some law or regulation Or something Some reg That if the shutdown has lasted for 30 days Then I think

2:35:44 You can start firing people. There's something weird, I'm not sure...I've not seen it in writing only heard people talk about it Maybe somebody can help us? I have one more part two to this clip just a About the safety of flying fear-mongering given all that you've just laid out and it is alarming to hear bottom line Would do say Trish that flying is less safe today than it was a month ago I would say it is less safe today than it was a month ago. Absolutely, we do not have the professionals on the job we are working with bare bones crews We have controllers there doing what they do very very well but how long can you expect them to do without all of the systems behind them

2:36:29 the system safe and that the planes... She's just talking crap now. The systems are up and running I'm sure! In the air, it's not just the air carriers that we're working through the system its life flights with organs its packages with cargo flights it's the military all of this is very important to this country It's an economic engine the Air Traffic Control System in this country And right now you're putting this incredible strain on the system which is unacceptable and unreasonable. This is a horrible game of chicken that we're in the middle of, and we need to get out of it, and we need to get out of it today." I agree we need to get out of it but I disagree that this is somehow really making life unsafe for air travel. Really? Stand it! Huh all right well I do have...I don't have a clip

2:37:21 about that Richard Engel did a whole bit on Syria and I wish i had this clip, but I don't understand why you don't have it. I see here Richard Engel NBC on Syrian war and recent murder Is that at the bottom? Yeah That's the clip. Let's play that clip because I pulled an ISO from him that's quite, that's very funny. Witnesses tell NBC News U.S troops were at a restaurant halfway down this street and then this happened when a man in civilian clothing approached the door A suicide bomber apparently lying in wait with a powerful explosive vest. Four Americans were killed, two US service members, a civilian working for the Defense Department and a contractor as rescue helicopters came in witnesses told NBC News U.S forces may have set

2:38:13 a dangerous pattern coming to this same restaurant repeatedly. ISIS almost immediately claimed responsibility, the group it seems trying to show the world President Trump is wrong. We've beaten them badly we've taken back the land And now it's time for our troops to come back home. But US troops are still here in Syria, for now and their allies Kurdish forces who took us into the battle zone say the U.S is leaving a war that is not finished These areas here on the front line are completely devastated and U.S and Kurdish led forces are still fighting against ISIS there as many as 4,000 ISIS fighters still in this area

2:38:56 Hardly mission accomplished. Vice President Pence today sees it differently. The caliphate has crumbled and ISIS has been defeated I like his alliteration, the caliphate has crumbled well done Pence boy nice Has crumbled and Isis has been defeated We'll stay in the fight to ensure that ISIS does not rear its ugly head again. But one of President Trump's allies is warning about pulling out the 2,000 US troops in Syria too soon It said in motion enthusiasm by the enemy we're fighting you make people who are trying to help wonder about us I saw this in Iraq

2:39:37 And I'm now seeing it in Syria. The Trump administration says it will leave the fighting on the ground here in Syria to the Kurds, but it's hard to see how they'll be able to do that after US troops pull out because they have no planes, no helicopters and almost no heavy weapons. He's just such a dope! Now this is a pro-war report, you know by Hengel. And there was some bunch of discrepancies in here that I thought were weird. Destroy them, destroy them economically. So why is Engel saying that the Kurds are going to take over the fighting when it was supposed to be Turkey who do have air and all these other capabilities that the Kurds supposedly don't have? Now why was this report being made in the first place and why would he report that the Kurds are bitching and moaning which is what he said about the pullout

2:40:45 Which I don't believe by the way, I don't believe this report. I think this report is slanted and it has this little that what really got me and who got my attention to this report was a little ISO he has in here which is hardly what I would call good reporting by making this commentary And you can see the ISO a hardly mission accomplished hardly mission accomplished Yeah What would you say that? It's hardly mission accomplished which is not a reference to anything Trump has said, but I've passed the reference. It's a callback to Bush on the aircraft carrier with the mission accomplished banner which is a piece of propaganda that people like to use to ridicule Trump for some reason. So this is something scamish about this and very unhappy with this report. Let's have this conversation as if we're in the Pentagon. Hey did you see Rich?

2:41:36 Great job! He even snuck in that stupid George W. thing about our mission accomplished, oh great We should put a little something extra on his paycheck for this week Well there is that element Somebody told him to make this report that way Oh yeah Cause Angle's always been kind of a stooge for the intelligence agencies Kind of. this moment where he turned on the intelligence committee that when Dianne Feinstein was leading it and they wanted to release the torture report, and he was all in with the CIA. No! no we shouldn't release it what kind of journalist is what got me? What kind of journalists wants less information a Libjo yes you have and I would like to thank

2:42:39 Gallop, Tom Starkweather, Danny Luce and William Eby. And Cyborg Dave for all your work for the end of show mixes Coming to you from downtown Austin Texas capital of the drone star states FEMA region 6 on the governmental maps in the 5x9 Cluedio in the common law condo In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where I am gonna say Hello red-tailed hawk I'm John C. Dvorak, we return on Sunday right here on No Agenda remember us at dvorak.org slash NA adios mofos and such

2:43:16 Yee-haw! We're having ourselves a meetup, Texas style. Saturday, Saturday, Saturday. Saturday March 2nd Austin Texas No agenda Meet up Austin in Texas at the Austin Beer Works Saturday March 2nd Come pay your respects to the potlucker and thank him for his courage Come get jiggy with other like minded producers Remember Saturday, Saturday, Saturday Saturday March 2nd The call from Indy came through. Hit it! I spent it all on hookers and blow. I thought that was disgusting. Get out of my vagina! Right now we have Obama, he won't call. Get out of my vagina! No no no no no no no no no... Get out of my vagina! Come on try getting it out. Try getting it out. I'll get it out. I mean I don't know if you're gonna put this on television but try getting it out go ahead And the poll just came out

2:44:13 I know that's right. So you get in the fast moving line, there is always some black guy just cranking away He was seriously hot! It did wish...I wish it was a little longer Yeah He was soaking wet And wash your hands after touching any raw meat Boo Chocolata! Boo Chocolataaaaa! I know that's right Get out of my vagina! That's classified Classified Maybe Classified Not really. Shut up already! It's science! Really? It's real! Yeah! Thanks Obama Show some R-E-S-P-I-C-T YAY! We're all gonna die! Jungle fever, jungle fever, jungle fever, doo doo doo Jungle Fever! I spent it all on hookers and blows Yea isn't that great we need a couple more uh these songs man they really do it I like the calypsos Heh heh yeah

2:45:09 I'm a sleuth, I'm a sleuthing, but we both are sleuthing. You've seen the intercepts! See, today I told you that's it! I got government sources now! Have you seen the intercepts? What we have then is this. Like a civilized city, I mean. No. They have government sources. What is he? Nancy Drew? Sources. They told us. No. What we have then is... They follow the government sources. We have them in this thing. Like what we have... No. A civilized city. Absolutely. But what does he? Nancy Drew?

2:45:59 What do we give you some little quick salads that the first lady will make along with Along with the second lady they'll make some salads and I said you guys aren't into salads. This is a very big deal It is a special security event The Ayes to the right 306, the No's to left 325 I'm filing an exploratory committee for President of United States tonight Tonight Whatever happens to get me, to give my job back I don't care. I would warn against being distr- taking anyone's taking their eye off the ball about what is going on in the world over some fast food at the White House to a football team And the truth of this shutdown is that it actually not about a wall It is not about

2:46:47 border. Burger King, Wendy's and McDonalds we have Big Macs we're quarter pounder sushis with everything that I like that you like according to officials from within the Trump administration the shutdown is costing more than previously believed and i said you guys are into salads No agenda. Because we know you're- No agenda.

2:48:53 Hardly mission accomplished.