Episode 1100 · Friday, 4 January 2019

Flash Meetup!

Geopolitical tensions flare as China eyes Taiwan, Mitt Romney breaks ranks with the White House, and Silicon Valley faces a growing exodus over platform censorship.

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Chinese President Xi Jinping has issued a stark warning regarding the inevitable reunification of Taiwan, refusing to renounce military force while rejecting the one country two systems framework. The 2019 Times Square New Year celebration mirrored this geopolitical shift, featuring heavy sponsorship from the city of Chongqing and promotional segments for Chinese automotive innovation. Meanwhile, Jair Bolsonaro assumed the presidency in Brazil, signaling a pivot toward the United States despite the nation's deep economic reliance on Chinese soybean imports.

Domestic political friction intensified as Senator-elect Mitt Romney published a scathing Washington Post op-ed questioning the character of Donald Trump following the resignations of James Mattis and Brett McGurk. In the House, Speaker Nancy Pelosi successfully bypassed Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s push for a Green New Deal Committee by establishing a Select Committee on the Climate Crisis led by Kathy Castor. Technological tensions also escalated as the Chaos Computer Club revealed that 61 percent of Android apps, including the King James Bible and Kayak, transmit granular user data to Facebook via the Facebook SDK regardless of account status.

Jordan Peterson and Dave Rubin announced their departure from Patreon to protest the de-platforming of creators like Sargon of Akkad, citing the influence of the Southern Poverty Law Center on tech regulation. The show celebrates its 1100th episode milestone with a knighting ceremony for producers and a flash meetup announcement for the Gilman Brewery in Berkeley. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the technical failures of the Surface Go and the bizarre firenado that struck Scheveningen during Dutch New Year festivities.


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CHAPTER 01 / 51 Discussion

New Year Greetings and Verjuice Discussion

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 1100 of the No Agenda show, broadcasting from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. Dvorak describes his family's holiday travels and mentions receiving verjuice, the juice of unripened grapes used as a vinegar substitute, as a gift.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· austin· silicon valley· verjuice· christmas

00:00 You are the gadfly of Silicon Valley. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Thursday January 3rd 2019! This is your award-winning Give My Nation Media Assassination episode 1100! This is no agenda. Celebrating 1100 episodes and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in downtown Austin Tejas In the Cluedio, in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where eleven hundred is a lucky number I'm Josh C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Lucky according to who? Lucky people. Really, all right well happy new year John Happy New Year to you happy new year to all the producers yes and boots and sea ships feet on the ground exactly what now you celebrated Christmas

00:53 Yes, Christmas and New Year's. The Dvorak family never ceases to amaze. Everyone was just traveling around you know the kids were up and skiing so we had to wait until everyone got together Okay what'd ya get? I got a bunch of just a lot of miscellany but including number of things that i've been I guess hinting about also got lamp that I needed a big one but including verjuice and a bunch of peculiar... Whoa! What kind of juice? Ver juice. VER? Yeah, v-e-r juice What's ver juice It is the juice of unripened grapes Oh and do you make wine out of that No no no You use it like a vinegar substitute Oh okay I should've read the book Sorry I know And it's a new year everybody! Well I spent New Year's Day Actually

CHAPTER 02 / 51 Discussion

Surface Go Recovery and Windows 10 Rebuild

A host details a technical failure involving a Surface Go tablet where the master boot record became corrupted. The recovery process using Acronis software failed because the low-level environment did not recognize the USB-C Ethernet dongle or Wi-Fi. The device eventually required a clean install of Windows 10, which resolved performance issues previously caused by BitLocker and failed updates.

surface go· microsoft· acronis· bitlocker· windows 10· disaster recovery

01:53 The 31st and New Year's Day, and yesterday rebuilding my Surface Go laptop tablet thing. That was a nightmare! Well how do you rebuild it? You just tear it apart change the screen put a new keyboard on it... This is what happened You know, when I got that thing it was somewhere in between the 1803 and 1804 update. And I got it and then they retracted it... So anyway at a certain point you know the 31st like I turn on the morning boom master boot record corrupted blue screens but I'm like oh! I have this Acronis product which will help me restore no problem and I'd you were supposed to be able to restore from the cloud

02:40 Well, I bet you that worked great. It would have worked great were it not that the product here's the problem the way it works is you use their software and then its gonna reboot and then goes into some low-level thing in the middle suck everything down from the cloud and restore which I think does actually work Unfortunately, the product is looking for your network interface card. Your NIC card at a very low level and the Surface only has USB-C and Wi-Fi so I had an Ethernet dongle but it won't do that It doesn't recognize it

03:16 Yeah, it's looking low-level and then it's like I can't find one and then it just restarts or tries to restart. It should have a code on it No, it's not low level enough It has to be somehow you know the different like an internal card not an external thing Well that's the security thing obviously yeah well It was not great hold on a second there here's the problem with it with the with your being nice about this mm-hmm It seems to me that you went to the cloud through that device. Eventually, yes. No when you went to the cloud to move this stuff there? Oh yeah it uploaded it no problem sure Well if it uploaded it should have seen at the time...at that moment it should have looked

04:00 For this low level number and said hey wait a minute. This is something different, and then quiz the machine Okay, okay? We'll put it we'll put an exception flag up yeah take that so when he asked to do the read the reload I No problem. It shouldn't be a problem at all, so why wasn't that accomplished is the question I'd be asking? Yeah well then I left some support notices your product does not work on this particular device now it works with a hard drive backup but i only did that of the studio machine I've cloned the drive of the machine after every show So if there's a problem I just swap out the driver back on the air But I had kind of built this thing up my life was in it

04:44 And although all my files were available on the cloud, I did have to reinstall Windows 10 and rebuild everything. And you know what that's like? Registration codes... Anyway so spent a lot of time on it. There she meant registry issues. All kinds of stuff but man the thing is much faster once i put windows ten on and again think you just have to do every- Why? I don't know maybe because I had the messed up update thing Yeah, I can see that actually. I think I believe it does happen yeah a bit locker That's what it is the bit locker. That's what screwed me up troll room knows what it is so my first real Disaster recovery with windows first of many I'm sure but at least I know what not to do just trust the damn cloud Stupid of me stupid yes A number of interesting events New Year's Eve

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Netherlands New Year Traditions and Scheveningen Firenado

The Dutch tradition of extreme New Year's Eve firework celebrations is highlighted, including a massive bonfire in Scheveningen. A 150-foot tower of wooden pallets created a "firenado" that showered the city with embers, causing multiple roof fires. The event resulted in a record number of fires across the country despite the typically docile nature of the Dutch population.

netherlands· scheveningen· firenado· fireworks· wooden pallets· bonfire

05:45 In the Netherlands, for people who have never been to the Netherlands and certainly not around New Year's. The Dutch are very docile quiet calm people but around New Years and it is legal People go apeshit and they let it all out. And they do that with fireworks You're allowed to buy fireworks, set them off anywhere you want... And shoot them at people! And shoot them at people Here's a Facebook video With just a little compilation The whole thing is like 5 minutes Just about 45 seconds This is made up of YouTube videos So its not a professionally produced piece But its just YouTube videos

06:31 Yes, you did indeed just witness a man fire a rocket from his ass cheeks. To you this might seem a little crazy or even borderline insane but to the Dutch it's just another New Year's Eve. The Netherlands 364 days of the year is quite peaceful normally the closest the average Dutchie gets to war or oorloog is a patatjeoorlog On the 31st of December, this all changes. Their most beloved New Year's tradition is making their safe little country feel like a war zone. You get the idea! I mean my favorite is always the carbite milk cannons

07:30 You know, they got the big metal milk containers with the top on it and so they jam it full of... is it carbide? Is that what it is? Yeah. Carbide cannons. Anyway this year which I think has happened before they build a big bonfire on the beach of Scheveningen and they make it out of wooden pallets. And this year, they decided to go for a record 150 feet high tower of pallets what could possibly go wrong? So they light this thing New Year's Eve and because of the kind of funnel nature it created what their calling the firenado

08:12 And this is the wind caught it just and it you know spiraled up through this 150 foot structure and spewed out flaming bits all over the city because of course the wind turned. There were roofs catching on fire, people's clothing on fire... Just walking down the street they're on fire! Yeah, you'd think that they pass some legislation concerning this. You can't mess with the Dutch when it comes to what they do on New Year's They get insane they it's like they need it. They need it! They need to blow stuff up and get all the aggression out. Maybe if they put the clamps on that they'd be a little more aggressive during the rest of the year. Yeah for sure they would

08:56 So anyway, record number of fires all over the country. People destroying stuff it's very very sad what happens what goes on in the Netherlands. Sounds like Oakland In France Macron had his New Year's address where he made very sure that everyone understood that what is going on is not just people who are unhappy but it's clearly terrorists and other horrible people, right wingers I guess. French President Emmanuel Macron has used his New Year's Eve speech to acknowledge the anger which has exploded in the country but warned extremist elements Some take as a pretext that they speak in the name of the people. But what people? Where, how and in reality given there are nothing but a megaphone for a crowd full of hatred rail against elected representatives force of order journalists Jews foreigners homosexuals that quite simply is the negation of France. So the people who were actually protesting hate Jews homosexuals migrants

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Emmanuel Macron New Year Address on Yellow Vest Protests

French President Emmanuel Macron delivered a New Year's Eve speech addressing the civil unrest in France. He characterized certain elements of the protest movement as extremists and "megaphones for a crowd full of hatred" rather than legitimate representatives of the people. Macron accused these groups of targeting journalists, Jews, foreigners, and homosexuals.

emmanuel macron· france· yellow vest· extremists· hate speech

08:56 So anyway, record number of fires all over the country. People destroying stuff it's very very sad what happens what goes on in the Netherlands. Sounds like Oakland In France Macron had his New Year's address where he made very sure that everyone understood that what is going on is not just people who are unhappy but it's clearly terrorists and other horrible people, right wingers I guess. French President Emmanuel Macron has used his New Year's Eve speech to acknowledge the anger which has exploded in the country but warned extremist elements Some take as a pretext that they speak in the name of the people. But what people? Where, how and in reality given there are nothing but a megaphone for a crowd full of hatred rail against elected representatives force of order journalists Jews foreigners homosexuals that quite simply is the negation of France. So the people who were actually protesting hate Jews homosexuals migrants

09:58 Okay, there's no pissed off Frenchman I guess that's bullcrap a Jean provocateur s a little twisted Slant to the news in the US we had A joke gone kind of wrong. Strategic Command which oversees America's nuclear and missile arsenal has apologized... This is Japanese television reporting. ...for tweeting that it was ready, if necessary to drop something much much bigger than the New Year's Eve countdown ball The annual countdown in New York's Times Square ushers in the new year with a brightly lit ball descending down a special flagpole

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US Strategic Command Nuclear Tweet Apology

U.S. Strategic Command issued an apology after tweeting a video of a B-2 stealth bomber dropping bombs with a caption comparing the munitions to the New Year's Eve ball drop in Times Square. The tweet, which stated the command was ready to drop something "much much bigger," was deleted following public criticism for being in poor taste.

strategic command· b-2 stealth bomber· times square· twitter· nuclear arsenal

09:58 Okay, there's no pissed off Frenchman I guess that's bullcrap a Jean provocateur s a little twisted Slant to the news in the US we had A joke gone kind of wrong. Strategic Command which oversees America's nuclear and missile arsenal has apologized... This is Japanese television reporting. ...for tweeting that it was ready, if necessary to drop something much much bigger than the New Year's Eve countdown ball The annual countdown in New York's Times Square ushers in the new year with a brightly lit ball descending down a special flagpole

10:42 The message was posted with a video of a B-2 stealth bomber dropping bombs. The tweet was deleted after drawing a wave of criticism and replaced with an apology that said the previous tweet was in poor taste, and did not reflect the command's values." Yeah it does! Reflecting somebody's values... It reflected them perfectly as far I'm concerned exactly what our values are war stuff yeah Did you see any of the television shows that were on during New Year's? I flipped a few of them, flipped around a few of them. Gave up! It was like second-rate bands, Jenny McCarthy announcing these people and never heard of any of them. A lot of lip syncing crap and people jumping up and down

CHAPTER 06 / 51 Discussion

New Year's Eve Television Broadcast Criticism

The hosts critique the quality of New Year's Eve television specials on CNN and NBC. They describe the broadcasts as featuring second-rate bands, lip-syncing, and inappropriate commentary, specifically citing Andy Cohen and Chrissy Teigen. NBC is criticized for missing the actual ball drop countdown during their live coverage.

cnn· anderson cooper· andy cohen· chrissy teigen· carson daly· nbc

10:42 The message was posted with a video of a B-2 stealth bomber dropping bombs. The tweet was deleted after drawing a wave of criticism and replaced with an apology that said the previous tweet was in poor taste, and did not reflect the command's values." Yeah it does! Reflecting somebody's values... It reflected them perfectly as far I'm concerned exactly what our values are war stuff yeah Did you see any of the television shows that were on during New Year's? I flipped a few of them, flipped around a few of them. Gave up! It was like second-rate bands, Jenny McCarthy announcing these people and never heard of any of them. A lot of lip syncing crap and people jumping up and down

11:32 It was just like, no. I mean it was unwatchable. CNN did their annual Anderson Cooper's Drunk with Somebody Else and for the second or third year in a row Andy Cohen gay television production icon producer of the Real Housewives series There's only it was 40 degrees and rain. It's really miserable in New York when it's like that It's just a miserable on there And so they're drinking there, and it was just all gay jokes Just gay gay gay and then Cher called then was just gayer than gay. It's like okay Can we have a little just something different for a second? No is not possible switch to NBC There's

12:18 Carson Daly and he's host co-hosting with him is John Legend's wife. What's her name? Christy Teigen who is a model, and I think she jumped the shark man She's you know these people should not be hosting anything talking about vaginal steaming And then you know at quarter to midnight when families might be watching and then they they succeeded to miss the ball drop shot They missed the actual last three. It's unbelievable! It was really bad and I yearned for Dick Clark, you know just boring make it boring put some guests on show a party no they force all these performers to perform in the rain with their

13:07 Yeah, with just their regular track date backing tape. CBS pulled the plug on all this stuff. They ran their regular programming! Yeah they probably got better ratings it was just a shit show but here's what blew me away did you know that New York Times Square and China specifically the city of Chongqing It pretty much commercialized the whole celebration at Times Square. It was a complete bought and paid for Chinese operation Oh, and they had a stage that had the main stage They had their own telecasts and you know a couple hours before midnight The score the Time Square wasn't it already New Year's the day before in China? Here's a couple of clips from this from this presentation There we go

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Chinese Sponsorship of Times Square New Year Celebration

The 2019 Times Square New Year's Eve celebration featured heavy promotion and sponsorship from the Chinese city of Chongqing. Representatives from Chongqing participated in lighting the ball, and the event included a dragon dance and promotional segments for Chinese automotive innovation. Officials, including Wang Jingbo, invited Americans to visit Chongqing to see pandas and experience local culture.

chongqing· china· times square· new york city· wang jingbo· tourism

13:07 Yeah, with just their regular track date backing tape. CBS pulled the plug on all this stuff. They ran their regular programming! Yeah they probably got better ratings it was just a shit show but here's what blew me away did you know that New York Times Square and China specifically the city of Chongqing It pretty much commercialized the whole celebration at Times Square. It was a complete bought and paid for Chinese operation Oh, and they had a stage that had the main stage They had their own telecasts and you know a couple hours before midnight The score the Time Square wasn't it already New Year's the day before in China? Here's a couple of clips from this from this presentation There we go

14:05 Welcome to Times Square 2019, the global celebration at the crossroads of the world. Please direct your attention to the top of one time square as representatives of Chongqing China and Time Square New Year's Eve flipped the switch that lights the New Year's Eve ball. So they powered the ball this year! The city of Chongqing powered the ball, and they had more! Now Lily that dragon dance earlier was so beautiful. And despite all the rain they still rocked it perfectly. It was very impressive Definitely thank you very much This show just came from China, the city of Chongqing and its cultural history has really inspired it to become a major international city and a center of industrial and automotive innovation

14:57 Look at the car right there in Times Square. There's some Chinese piece of junk twirling around Oh yes, we got beautiful cars for you I found this to be rather flabbergasting that the Chinese just own New Year's Eve on Times Square And come visit us, please! Well that sounds amazing and I would love to go to Chongqing in 2019. Oh, I'd love to go to Chongqing... Yeah it's a good idea. It is very convenient you know? Because Chongqing has over 80 international direct flights connecting with the world including the city of New York and LA

15:38 And I promise you, here in Chongqing. What's AOA? Oh she said LA! I thought she said AOA and then they had the ambassador to Chongqing on hand he gave a little New Year's greeting Hello friends China welcomes you with open arms yeah I encourage all of you to visit China in 2019 Reach out to its civilization and make more Chinese friends in this global age, and a global village. Happy New Year! And Xin Nian Kuai Le! Yeah, Xin Nian Kuai Le to you

16:22 And then the final guy they brought on was, I don't even know who he was. He was important you know there's like five Chinese officials standing that...I don't know who they were they had their just standing at attention and this guy okay it's time for him to come over comes over bows grabs the mic Now we would like to invite Wang Jingbo to share his greetings with us. I am from beautiful Chongqing, China. I would like to send my best wishes for the New Year. Chongqing is the largest suburb of China with a history of 3,000 years. I warmly welcome everyone to Chongqing. There are three things to do in Chongqing. Watch pandas, soak hot springs and make hot pot. Travel far and see Guangdao.

17:13 I know what that's, what he said. What? Kill Whitey! Oh man... Times Square 2019 owned by China no one mentioned that well they weren't about to mention the Chinese no I can't even I think that town Shanxing whatever it is looks pretty modern. One of those mega cities the size of Shanghai in the middle of nowhere yes that's where they got a promotional video and everything Yeah, if you can go if anyone wants to go there I'd recommend it But you have just remember. You're gonna be the only white person there or black listener Maybe maybe here a black guy yeah, do you feel like you'll feel right at home? Oh by the way yeah If your anything if yours Latino you give me the own Latino there I don't know It looks like there's a lot of trade going on and bet There's a lot of there's a lot of trade you got a lot of foreigners a lot of foreigners in fact the

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Jair Bolsonaro Inauguration and Brazil-China Trade

Jair Bolsonaro was sworn in as the President of Brazil, signaling a shift toward far-right policies and a closer relationship with the United States. Despite meeting with U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Brazil remains heavily reliant on bilateral trade with China, its largest trading partner. The discussion notes that China is increasing Brazilian soybean imports to offset tariffs from the U.S. trade war.

jair bolsonaro· brazil· mike pompeo· china· trade war· boeing

18:18 I guess the only thing that's kind of interesting along those lines is Bolsonaro. Bolsonaro, the Brazilian guy who's apparently going to do... he's doing a bilateral deal with China and Brazil is going to be filled with Chinese goods Play Bolsonaro F24. Next on his first day in office Brazil's new president Jair Bolsonaro has got straight down to work issuing a series of decrees on the economy, agriculture and society. Bolsonaro former army captain was sworn in on Tuesday as Brazil's first far-right president since the military dictatorship gave way to civilian rule back in 1985

19:00 The country's new leader was elected on a promise of cleaning up Brazilian politics and the justice minister has been bolstered up to fight graft and battle organized crime. Lucinda Elliott reports from Brasilia Earlier today he met with the US Secretary of State, also a former army captain Mike Pompeo described a new transformative relationship with Brazil And then went on to meet Brazil's new foreign minister where they discussed this issue of Venezuela Bolsonaro is a nationalist, he's an avid user of social media and of course he despises political correctness. So comparisons have often been drawn between him and US President Donald Trump but really Brazil historically while it has had cordial ties with the U.S.,

19:44 They've been nonetheless fairly cold, not very profound. Really Brazil has focused its energy on bilateral trade with China. China is now Brazil's biggest trading partner and it'll be interesting to see how that trade dynamic plays out given the trade war between the US and China already China is buying more Brazilian soya beans to offset American trade tariffs. Bastards! They're cutting our business Is this guy Bolsonaro? Bolsonaro. Bolsonaro, is he considered right-wing? He's considered a Nazi. Oh yes okay got it got it got it big fan of the old military dictatorship

20:31 something of an a-hole. But, of course the way Democracy Now! have the second clip presents it also gets us put in a little piece of propaganda This is a shorter clip but this is just I actually want to make this a quiz see well no don't make this a quiz I got another quiz for you but just listen to the way Amy likes to slip in a little propaganda Going to restore order in this country we are aware of this awesome responsibility... Is this Bolsonaro update DN? Yeah OK, well that's very short. It's 21 seconds? Yeah yeah. Going to restore order in this country we are aware of this awesome responsibility and the challenges that we will face We know where we want to go and the potential Brazil has Many fear Brazil's young democracy is now at risk For years Bolsonaro has praised Brazils former military dictatorship while speaking in favor of torture and threatening to destroy imprison or banish his political opponents

21:29 I'm not sure what i was supposed to hear. Well, what it was that went on...I clipped it poorly sorry It went on to go about how Boeing met with the Boeing guy and the new Department of Defense The new Boeing guy which is a munitions company Oh, she did that again? Yeah. Oh yes didn't we play that last time? That was a different clip. She does it over and over! She keeps doing that how Boeing is just a weapons company It's true while true that typically isn't what you say No! Thats not how you do it. Its not known as a weapons company they make a jet I was thinking about the

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Department of Defense Accounting and Missing Trillions

A retrospective look at the Department of Defense's inability to account for trillions of dollars in transactions, a problem highlighted by Donald Rumsfeld on September 10, 2001. Whistleblower Jim Minnery and analyst Franklin C. Spinney are cited regarding "cooked books" and the lack of financial oversight. The Pentagon's internal systems reportedly fail to communicate, leading to massive unaccounted spending.

pentagon· donald rumsfeld· dod audit· whistleblower· jim minnery· waste

22:13 the DOD audit and how long this has been going on, and just what the hell is happening with our Department of Defense. It's where all our money goes every single drop of it pretty much $700 billion dollars And I found a report because this has been going on for a long time from 2005 when Rumsfeld was He was the Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld under Bush. And this is you'll recall September 10th 2001 we found out that 2.3 trillion dollars was missing or was unaccounted for at the Department of Defense and I think in this clip they even mentioned that that was just for one year only

23:07 That wasn't, you know for a couple years. That was one year I don't understand how that works but no i just want to play this uh this report from CBS from 2005. The day before 9-1-1 secretary of defense Donald Rumsfeld declared war not on foreign terrorists the adversaries closer to home It's the Pentagon bureaucracy. He said money wasted by the military poses a serious threat In fact, it could be said that it is a matter of life and death Rumsfeld promised change but the next day... ...the world changed And in the rush to fund the war on terrorism The war on waste seems to have been forgotten My 03 budget

23:48 Calls for more than... I like how they call it the war on waste instead of the war on theft, but okay. 48 billion dollars in new defense spending More money for the Pentagon when its own auditors admit The military cannot account for 25% of what it already spends According to some estimates we cannot track 2.3 trillion dollars In transactions 2.3 trillion with a T That's 8 thousand dollars For every man woman and child in America To understand how the Pentagon can lose track of trillions, consider the case of one military accountant who tried to find out what happened to a mere 300 million. We know it's gone but we don't know what they spent it on Jim Minnery, a former Marine turned whistleblower is risking his job by speaking out for the first time about the millions he noticed were missing from one defense agency balance sheets

24:39 Minnery tried to follow the money trail, even crisscrossing the country looking for records. The director looked at me and he says why do you care about this stuff? It took me aback my supervisor asked me why I care about doing good jobs He was reassigned and says officials then covered up the problem by just writing it off. They got to cover it up, that's where the corruption comes in they've gotta cover-up fact that they can't do their job The Pentagon's inspector general partially substantiated several of Minnery allegations but could not prove officials tried to manipulate the financial statements. 20 years ago, Pentagon employee Franklin C Spinney made headlines exposing what he calls the accounting games. He's still there and although he does not speak for the Pentagon,

25:27 problem has gotten worse. Those numbers are pie in the sky, the books are cooked routinely year after year after year. Retired Vice Admiral Jack Shanahan commanded the Navy's second fleet the first time Donald Rumsfeld served as Defense Secretary With good financial oversight We could find 48 billion dollars in loose change in that building without having to hit the taxpayers. This has been going on for a while, I forgot about it how long has been going on? That we don't know forever and there was one... It's the biggest scandal of the country nobody seems even want to pay attention to it nobody discusses it is not on the campaign trail you don't hear Elizabeth Warren talking about it

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Cynthia McKinney Questioning Pentagon Information Technology Contracts

Former Georgia Representative Cynthia McKinney is featured in a clip questioning Defense Department officials about $20 billion spent on IT systems that fail to balance the government's books. McKinney pressed for the names of contractors receiving these funds, but officials declined to provide specific names during the hearing.

cynthia mckinney· pentagon· information technology· accounting· georgia· congress

26:08 There was a Democrat who made a big stink about this and subsequently pretty much got disappeared from life. Do you remember who that was, a woman? No not offhand. McKinney. McKinney? Yes from Georgia The black Democrat. Oh, the Black Democrat McKinney? She made a fuss? Mr Secretary according to the Comptroller General of the United States there are serious financial management problems at the Pentagon to which mr Cooper alluded fiscal year 1999 2.3 trillion missing fiscal year 2000 1.1 trillion missing and DOD is number one reason why the government can't balance his checkbook

26:59 The Pentagon has claimed year after year that the reason it can't account for the money is because its computers don't communicate with each other. My second question, Mr. Secretary is who has the contracts today to make those systems communicate with each other? How long have they had those contracts and how much have the taxpayers paid for them? Thank you Representative. The second question I've forgotten what the second question was. Uh-huh. I think Ms. Jonas knows it. Okay Thank you, Ms. McKinney I appreciate the question and your interest in our department's financial condition and we are working very hard on that program. I've just come back recently to understand that you're working hard on it but my question was who has the contract? How long have they had that contract and how much money have we spent on it? In general we spend about $20 billion dollars in the Department of Information Technology Systems

28:02 The accounting systems are part of that. I can get you the exact number for the record, what we spend on our current legacy systems and those that were moving towards. And who has the contracts? That would be a multitude of individuals. Could you name some please? Well, I think off the top of my head... Really? Well, rather not. I'd really provide them for records. That's not privileged information is it? It sure isn't. Please And we still have time so please I would be glad to provide for the record. I don't want to talk from the top of my head Yes, yes So they were spending 20 billion dollars on their bookkeeping legacy systems in 2005 or 6 this is and Cynthia McKinney that think she's teaching at the University of Bangladesh and I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding says she just gone

29:00 This is the real problem. I'd say it was THE problem, yes. It's THE problem. It's stealing our money, passing around their buddies and then kind of losing track of it obviously. You don't have to lose track of it or steal it but you're right, it's theft not waste And it plays into the newsletter in a way What's this face? Everyone's talking about his opt-ed, he slammed Trump. Romney! Mitt Romney. The warmonger! Listen to this I want to play this little bit here... This guy is... Mitt Romney is a dick He's a total douchebag. I want to play this talking about the academic industrial military complex. I have this Bruce Ackerman

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Bruce Ackerman and Mitt Romney on Government Shutdown

Yale Professor Bruce Ackerman and Senator-elect Mitt Romney are criticized for their public opposition to President Trump during the government shutdown. Ackerman argued that Trump is trying to prove he is in charge when he is not, while Romney wrote a Washington Post op-ed condemning Trump's leadership.

mitt romney· bruce ackerman· yale· donald trump· government shutdown

29:00 This is the real problem. I'd say it was THE problem, yes. It's THE problem. It's stealing our money, passing around their buddies and then kind of losing track of it obviously. You don't have to lose track of it or steal it but you're right, it's theft not waste And it plays into the newsletter in a way What's this face? Everyone's talking about his opt-ed, he slammed Trump. Romney! Mitt Romney. The warmonger! Listen to this I want to play this little bit here... This guy is... Mitt Romney is a dick He's a total douchebag. I want to play this talking about the academic industrial military complex. I have this Bruce Ackerman

29:56 This Bruce Ackerman is a professor at Yale and he was on France 24. And he's ranting, the woman is fed up with him and he's ranting about Trump And he makes it, you have to listen to this is what the academia actually believes. This is the rant number one. President Trump has proudly taken responsibility for this shutdown Everyone recognizes, everyone recognizes that this is entirely unnecessary. Only just today the new leader, the new de facto leader of the Senate Mitt Romney wrote an opinion essay in The Washington Post condemning this as merely posturing and unnecessary. Everyone recognizes that President Trump is trying to

30:54 show the world that he is still in charge when he isn't. No, of course not! We know who's really in charge... The guys with the guns Now we have Mitt Romney somehow before even takes office as Lee is the leader He's a junior senator who's gonna suffer from this by the way these guys This doesn't go over well with Matt with people that are leadership of these up these hot these traditional houses Mean that's what happened in fact. I just want to jump around with that theme But because I do have a Bruce Ackerman to clip where she runs him off

31:33 Play that, but then I have to play one other clip. He's holding a meeting now with the Democratic and Republican leadership but he has not actually reached out to them in advance to negotiate terms. You just don't bring them into the situation room in the White House and then expect to have a deal without preparatory negotiations. So if the, unless he caves in an obvious way unfortunately my prediction is that this shutdown will continue for a while

32:19 until he recognizes that he is making a fool of himself. Okay, Bruce Ackerman your professor at Yale University thanks for your time today. Thanks. That guy by the way is responsible for the social justice warrior movement Really? I think so. He should take a public speaking class while he's at school. It's like one lecture, but back to Romney...I want to play this clip. This is Romney already mouthing off on democracy now. Incoming Republican Senator Mitt Romney of Utah writes President Trump has not risen to the mantle of the office in a New Year's Day- The mantle! Let's just stop there for a second. The mantel that's

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Mitt Romney Criticism of Donald Trump's Character

Mitt Romney's New Year's Day op-ed is analyzed, specifically his claim that President Trump has not "risen to the mantle of the office." The hosts contrast Romney's current stance on fiscal responsibility with his 2012 campaign statements regarding tax cuts and the national deficit, labeling his positions inconsistent.

mitt romney· donald trump· washington post· integrity· taxes· deficit

32:19 until he recognizes that he is making a fool of himself. Okay, Bruce Ackerman your professor at Yale University thanks for your time today. Thanks. That guy by the way is responsible for the social justice warrior movement Really? I think so. He should take a public speaking class while he's at school. It's like one lecture, but back to Romney...I want to play this clip. This is Romney already mouthing off on democracy now. Incoming Republican Senator Mitt Romney of Utah writes President Trump has not risen to the mantle of the office in a New Year's Day- The mantle! Let's just stop there for a second. The mantel that's

33:03 Is that not something that we use to refer to kings and the pope? The king and queen of England! And the pope. You know, the mantle. I am wearing my mantle of rulership! Yeah so why does Romney consider that to be a mantel or does he think Trump wants it to be mantle and doesn't know how to wear it? Which one is it? It's just...I don't know.. I would like somebody out there to get me the genesis on why Romney hates Trump to its core It's probably more personal than anything. I bet you it has something to do with some deal that fell through. Some deal?

33:51 courts. But Romney says Trump has failed to show honesty and integrity as president, writing quote with the nation so divided resentful and angry presidential leadership and qualities of character is indispensable And it is in this province where the incumbent shortfall has been most glaring Romney's among the freshman members of Congress set to be sworn by Vice President Mike Pence on Thursday. Now, Romney and his little laundry list there specifically mentioned lowering taxes right? Here's Romney on lowering taxes in 2012, just a few years ago. We can afford to do a little bit more to make sure we're not blowing up the deficit. Jim, the president began this segment so I think i get the last word. So you're going to get the first word of that next segment! Well but he gets the first word of that segment and I get the last word of that segment. Oh shut up! First of all let me repeat what I said. I'm not in favor of a five trillion dollar tax cut That's not my plan

34:48 My plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. Boom! Yeah, yeah... So the guy's full of crap Of course he also did say famously that Russia was the real problem Even though it isn't He was already on that tip Way ahead of the game Yeah they'd read him in a little too soon Too soon I have a clip of Romney Where was he at on some show? Addressing the mantle, etc. Listen to the globalist words and terms that he uses particularly in regarding what the United States is because according to Romney we own it all! It's a world...it's ours! You said that you were dismayed by President Trump's decision in December to pull troops out of Syria

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Mitt Romney on Syria Withdrawal and Global Trade

Mitt Romney expressed dismay over President Trump's decision to withdraw troops from Syria, citing the resignations of James Mattis and Brett McGurk. Romney argued that a U.S. presence is necessary to maintain a stable world for trade and to protect allies like the Kurds from regional powers including Turkey, Russia, and Iran.

mitt romney· syria· james mattis· kurds· turkey· globalism

34:48 My plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. Boom! Yeah, yeah... So the guy's full of crap Of course he also did say famously that Russia was the real problem Even though it isn't He was already on that tip Way ahead of the game Yeah they'd read him in a little too soon Too soon I have a clip of Romney Where was he at on some show? Addressing the mantle, etc. Listen to the globalist words and terms that he uses particularly in regarding what the United States is because according to Romney we own it all! It's a world...it's ours! You said that you were dismayed by President Trump's decision in December to pull troops out of Syria

35:41 which resulted in the resignations of Mattis and a special envoy to the global coalition to defeat ISIS, Brett McGurk. The president says we need to get out of these foreign entanglements and that's what he ran on. Why is he making a mistake? Well, the reason that we're involved in the world is to make the world safer which is good for the world and good for us. Okay Because we trade with places throughout the world We sell products throughout the world Ah-ha! We sell products War products People come and go into our various countries And we share not only culture but education technology innovation Whoa did you hear what he said? Listen carefully this

36:17 Because we trade with places throughout the world. We sell products throughout the world People come and go into our various countries, and we share not only people come and go into our various countries I Missed it because we own you all you suckers you come into our various countries this guy has Because we trade with places throughout the world. It's gonna get us all killed! We sell products throughout the world, people come and go into our various countries and we share not only culture but education technology innovation and so having a stable world where we can conduct trade is a very good thing for us and for the world Okay he's talking about trade trade buying and selling our country's trade trade buy-and-sell trade And...and so we're in Syria with a very small footprint about 2,000 people Clearly to trade

37:05 to help our allies there, the Kurds. And in some respects to provide some stability for that region So that Assad or Erdogan or the Russians or the Iranians don't rush in and slaughter people I'm sorry, aren't the Turks in NATO? Aren't they our allies now you're worried about them slaughtering people and hurting our allies? Slaughter our allies. Slaughter our allies! The Turks! So pulling out on a precipitous basis without interacting with them and coordinating this with them and getting the input for instance from Secretary Mattis is something which i think it's very troubling to me into a number of others Just wants to sell more war stuff That guys' the worst

37:50 He is. How did he ever became the nominee for the Republican candidates? Money, money! This guy's loaded you got money You can run parts of the country. Come on, just like...money Bloomberg! Money! Yeah Bloomberg wants to run too I gotta put him on that list And then he's gonna run under the midget party Don't don't do that. There are short people who listen to the show you know I'm sorry everybody yeah, I really feel bad about meanwhile Ocasio Alexander Ocasio-Cortez is making waves herself

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Nancy Pelosi and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Committee Conflict

Speaker Nancy Pelosi bypassed Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's push for a Green New Deal Committee by creating a Select Committee on the Climate Crisis led by Kathy Castor. Ocasio-Cortez and Ro Khanna are also opposing new House rules known as "PAYGO," which require new spending to be offset by budget cuts or revenue increases.

alexandria ocasio-cortez· nancy pelosi· green new deal· kathy castor· paygo

37:50 He is. How did he ever became the nominee for the Republican candidates? Money, money! This guy's loaded you got money You can run parts of the country. Come on, just like...money Bloomberg! Money! Yeah Bloomberg wants to run too I gotta put him on that list And then he's gonna run under the midget party Don't don't do that. There are short people who listen to the show you know I'm sorry everybody yeah, I really feel bad about meanwhile Ocasio Alexander Ocasio-Cortez is making waves herself

38:32 Yeah, this is very interesting. First of all she didn't get her committee or select. No I have the clip about that. Oh good let's do this Pelosi cuts off AOC at the knees climate activists pushing for the creation of a Green New Deal Committee when Democrats take control of the house this week were met with disappointment Friday when presumptive incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced creation of another environmental panel instead. The Select Committee on the Climate Crisis is set to be led by longstanding Florida Congressmember Kathy Castor. Proponents of the Green New Deal have argued that the panel will be too weak, as it will not have legislative power and may not have subpoena power. The proposal for a Green New Deal also sought to bar congressmembers who accept money from the fossil fuel industry.

39:18 I think maybe thighs, not just knees. Boom boom boom! You're done! Get out! It's not happening AOC and AOC is fighting back The more she fights back, the worse it's going to be for her. Along with Ro Khanna, a Democrat from California... Oh, Ro Khanna! They are opposing the new rules package now I had to look in this because i wasn't quite familiar with it but the way the House of Representatives works is they have rules you know they're basically they hold the purse strings so they determine who gets money and how much and where goes

39:55 And they have a rule, and one of the rules is currently under the Trump administration it's called cut go. So anything you want to spend some more money over here? You want to spend more money than we have? You have to cut something else. It's called Cut Go The Democrats are wanting to change the rules which needs to be voted on by the whole house to pay-go Pay-Go and the pay-go rules means you have to be able, so you don't cut but you have to Have the money to pay for it. So that could come from many many different places But what you're not allowed to do under PAYGO is just print up money and That of course doesn't fit with the AOC plan because she has said even in our green new deal The way they're gonna pay for it Is the way we paid for the Great Recession by printing up the money

40:52 And I think we printed up a trillion or two trillion for that. And so she's going to vote against the rules package, they only need like 18 votes to be against the rules package and then it won't pass and it'll stay cut go which means even though the Democrats will have the House, the rule will remain in place that if they want to spend money somewhere, it has to be cut somewhere else. So Cortez is really on She's she's on the edge with this one if she can get a couple more people to participate. She's a troublemaker Yes, I like her But I think she's a troublemaker and I think it's fun to watch It's incredibly fun to watch you really knows how Pelosi operates no not yet She'll find out She's daughter had some comments that they were quoted locally

41:50 She's the documentary filmmaker, isn't that what Pelosi's daughter does? She says my mom could cut your head off and you wouldn't even know you're bleeding. Yeah yeah I bet... And her head is gone. Her head is gone all right so we got that thing in care of but I noticed this one thing that's not being played on our news at all And that is the old bromide the Chinese like to use when they get into trouble with us, which has threatened Taiwan. Oh yes! Yes yes yes. This was played on France 24 this China-Taiwan heats up

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Xi Jinping Warning on Taiwan Reunification

Chinese President Xi Jinping stated that the reunification of Taiwan with mainland China is inevitable and refused to renounce the use of military force to achieve it. Taiwan's president rejected the "one country, two systems" framework proposed by Beijing. The discussion notes that China has been using economic pressure to isolate Taiwan diplomatically.

xi jinping· taiwan· reunification· one country two systems· south china sea

41:50 She's the documentary filmmaker, isn't that what Pelosi's daughter does? She says my mom could cut your head off and you wouldn't even know you're bleeding. Yeah yeah I bet... And her head is gone. Her head is gone all right so we got that thing in care of but I noticed this one thing that's not being played on our news at all And that is the old bromide the Chinese like to use when they get into trouble with us, which has threatened Taiwan. Oh yes! Yes yes yes. This was played on France 24 this China-Taiwan heats up

42:34 Reunification is inevitable. Xi Jinping's message to Taiwan 40 years after China ended its military confrontation with the island, now the Chinese president says use of force is still on the table We're willing to negotiate sincerely and expend all our efforts in striving for the prospect of peaceful reunification. We do not promise to renounce the use of force, and reserve the right to use all necessary measures." Taiwan has never formally declared independence, but has been self-governed since 1949 when the nationalists fled to the island after losing China's civil war to the Communist Party. 30 years later in 1979 China made a call for unification and ended its routine bombardment of the island

43:27 But Beijing continues to see Taiwan as a rogue province and in recent years has conducted regular military drills in the region. Xi Jinping wants Taiwan to come under the same one country, two systems policy as Hong Kong and Macau – a proposition rejected by the Taiwanese president I have to reaffirm that Taiwan will never accept the one country, two systems policy and the majority of Taiwanese people will never accept that either. Meanwhile, China has been using diplomatic and economic pressure to sideline Taiwan on the global stage. Last year Beijing convinced El Salvador and the Dominican Republic to cut diplomatic ties with Taipei whose sovereignty is now recognized by just 17 nations How is this any different from Russia Putin and Crimea? As far as I'm concerned it's far different

44:28 First of all, most of the people living in Taiwan are Taiwanese. And they're not like a bunch of Mandarins from Beijing living there and Crimea was mostly Russians. Okay And I think that's a major difference. And so if you had a referendum in China and Taiwan to join up with China, they would vote no? Now you're getting more towards my point is this is China looking to annex re-annex or whatever you want to call it Taiwan and as you pointed out no one's talking about

45:06 They don't know what to talk about. They don't know what to say or what to think this happened during the last time This was a real major situation where these two islands, Kumhoi and Matsu These two islands that were one owned by Taiwan and ones owned by China And this was during the Nixon administration It was going to be a point of argument at debates What are you going to do if China takes over the other island because they kept threatening to do it? And it's just that China pulls this stunt all the time. They tend to pull in Republican administrations, not sure why that is but I think there's some concern that China has taken over the world. Why do they always stop short though? They always are threatening this and say it keeps coming back and then they never really do anything Well, they have so many people as the problem

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Custom Tailored Shirts in Taiwan and South Korea

A host recounts traveling to Taiwan and South Korea in the 1980s and 90s to have custom shirts made for approximately $15 to $20. These shirts featured specialized oversized breast pockets designed to hold 5-inch floppy disks or CDs, allowing for the discreet transport of media.

taiwan· south korea· tailoring· custom shirts· floppy disk· perry ellis

45:06 They don't know what to talk about. They don't know what to say or what to think this happened during the last time This was a real major situation where these two islands, Kumhoi and Matsu These two islands that were one owned by Taiwan and ones owned by China And this was during the Nixon administration It was going to be a point of argument at debates What are you going to do if China takes over the other island because they kept threatening to do it? And it's just that China pulls this stunt all the time. They tend to pull in Republican administrations, not sure why that is but I think there's some concern that China has taken over the world. Why do they always stop short though? They always are threatening this and say it keeps coming back and then they never really do anything Well, they have so many people as the problem

46:02 And if they ever did something, there's probably nothing we could really do about it. And I don't know what that may be a real mess of day tech to Taiwan but when I first time went to Taiwan which is really in the 90s maybe late 80s you used to get shirts made there? Oh yeah i would always say well it's got Korea Korea Taiwan and I used to get shirts made Hong Kong but then now it's too expensive like really expensive Tell us about your shirts your shirts were great shirt shop They were special shirts They're just tailor-made shirts is all they are. They have nice fabrics, they're about 15 bucks a piece. You forgetting it? I think nowadays they're more like 20. You're forgetting the most important part! You had these shirts made with a special breast pocket

46:47 Oh, no. Yes. Okay. Sorry you're right I had to...I had my own pattern so i bring a pattern over it because I want these shirts made with these pockets and I wanted certain you know Perry Ellis uh patented shoulders and there's a number of features that like on my shirts And so at the time I had this huge breast pockets that would conveniently hold a CD In the pocket and disappear down into the pocket perfectly so if you went to somebody's house, and you wanted to steal some of their CDs You could easily put it in the pocket. No wait didn't you at one point also have pockets that fit a 5-inch floppy yeah? You are the gadfly of Silicon Valley fantastic Walking around we're gonna have a custom made shirt you might as well do something custom Exactly huge pocket was that for my floppy disk

47:41 Hey, hey girls want to see my floppy? Very nice. Anyway so yeah Taiwan and South Korea are the places that have the custom shorts made inexpensively about 20 bucks maybe around there and they'll do anything So this little back and forth with China is not being covered at all by our media. And it's... Dude, we're all in! We've got... The Chinese have been putting the screws to everybody who does business with Taiwan. The Chinese are on time- they own Times Square I mean come on It's like there's a lot of money flowing the problem? The NOAA Gender Show is not seeing any one or ReminiBee or any of that

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Email Censorship and Political Spam Filtering Study

A study by the group IMGE found that major email providers like Google, Yahoo, and AOL disproportionately filtered right-leaning political newsletters into spam folders during the 2018 election cycle. The hosts discuss their own difficulties with email deliverability for the No Agenda newsletter and the "tax" of hiring mass email services to bypass blocks.

google· yahoo· aol· spam filters· imge· email marketing

47:41 Hey, hey girls want to see my floppy? Very nice. Anyway so yeah Taiwan and South Korea are the places that have the custom shorts made inexpensively about 20 bucks maybe around there and they'll do anything So this little back and forth with China is not being covered at all by our media. And it's... Dude, we're all in! We've got... The Chinese have been putting the screws to everybody who does business with Taiwan. The Chinese are on time- they own Times Square I mean come on It's like there's a lot of money flowing the problem? The NOAA Gender Show is not seeing any one or ReminiBee or any of that

48:28 No, it's because we're banned. We are actually blocked in China. Yeah doesn't surprise me I have heard from more than a few people and I can't tell anyone in China to check this because they can't get the show So we're blocked for what reason? We've been de-platformed by China. Why are we blocked in China is the question. Let's just call it de-platformed, that sounds better. Why are we de-platformed in China? How much China coverage do even have that's that important? More than the mainstream! Yeah well I guess one story's enough... That's the problem right there! Crazy. Actually I believe our show has been de-platformed multiple times

49:10 Without us really on what we've seen the results But we weren't able to figure it out and there is a study was done a test who did this? report group called Img, who the hell are these guys IMGE you heard of them sound sounds fishy to be quite honest img img Let me see what it stands for img about us anyway This this img they did a test of spamming emails and so newsletters essentially being sent to Google Yahoo, and what was the AOL yeah yahoo email aol email and gmail email and they tracked how many newsletter's went to spam

50:05 during the period October 4th to November 6 and Especially two days before the election all right-leaning entities as they call them in their study went to spam all That's interesting. And so the assertion here actually I would say it's an accusation Is that? The email providers were sending newsletters of right wing candidates to spam And if you and if you look on Yahoo 70% or more most a hundred percent Josh Hawley Rick Scott Dean Heller Mike Braun Kevin Kramer all to spam Then you had the Democrats 0% Is it same for AOL almost the same percentages Gmail was a little better, but they still had 100% for a couple of candidates going to spam

51:01 And we know how this email game, we dealt with it at Mevio even. Pod show Mevio We had to pay because you know because we had emails that would go out if someone created an account or if you want to retrieve your password Or a notification and we just happily set that system up. We're talking 2008 6 7 8 somewhere six probably We just set that up and emails weren't arriving, which is difficult if someone wants to recover their password. And they were all being blocked not even getting through not even getting to spam because we weren't an official mass email provider which apparently you need to be or hire the services in order to get through to these companies on any scale other than individual it's a tax

51:49 And it's a Kleiner Perkins company too. So we got a deal, but still it was crazy We've had thousands of months just to be let through on email Well my last the last email I sent out the one for show 1100 we ended up with higher norm rate we have by number people that report this mm-hmm a higher than normal rate going into the Promotions box at Google yeah the promotions box That's another one Yeah, and how did you know that just feedback from people that you know? That yeah. Yeah Cuz there's one or two guys in particular say this today for your information today's email went into the regular box Today's email went in to promote. Okay, good feedback good feedback. Yeah So that is a form of deep platforming Sadly yeah even though it's because we've let

52:41 But hold on, but we pay. The Noah Jenner Show pays MailChimp and they're an approved emailer so we pay to get through but then on the other end we still have these companies going man well throw that into spam And it could just be some algorithm that looks for certain combos of words. Well, I've tried to figure out what these combos are over the years and i've gotten a few of them You still haven't done the Trump sucks or you know...you gotta do as a subject line see if everyone gets it. The Trump Sucks Test Yeah It's the TST Maybe I might try in next couple newsletters. It's worth a shot Could work

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Facebook SDK Tracking in Third-Party Mobile Apps

The Chaos Computer Club (CCC) presented research showing that over 61% of tested Android apps automatically transfer data to Facebook the moment they are opened. This tracking occurs via the Facebook SDK even if the user does not have a Facebook account. Apps mentioned include Kayak, which reportedly sends entire search queries to Facebook.

facebook sdk· data tracking· privacy· android· kayak· ccc

53:28 I've always known that it was the apps, let me step back for a second. The thing that Facebook and Twitter but lets just keep in at Facebook for a second, add Google to that continuously say to everybody is your data's your data we don't sell your data, you're data belongs to you its your data, edit your data The term data is very misleading in this. The term data refers to stuff you post and your photos, etc... That's really what they're talking about when they say your data but the data that is created by actions you take that you don't actually know is inherently not your data according to Silicon Valley and they don't tell you about it

54:11 And I've always thought that, you know the issue with tracking from Silicon Valley mainly location-based. You know where someone is? You get a good idea who they hang out with and what they're doing just based on location but any app that has The Facebook advertising SDK software development kit included is tracking you like no one else's business. So, you with your Android phone if you open up a app any app that has the Facebook SDK but really there are 1000 advertising SDKs

54:52 It sends data back to home base with a lot of information about you at that very moment. The triple C computer club in Germany, those guys have been around for decades haven't they? The CCC? Maybe What's the genesis of that group do you know Well, computer clubs were a huge popular thing in the 70s and early 80's because as we got these new machines... The information we were getting was pretty scant and so forth. You couldn't get enough information And so you join these clubs which are fantastic! You join one of these clubs then they bring guests from Microsoft and all different companies and they could get grilled Were you member any of this clubs back in the day?

55:37 Well, you would never I was never technically a member but you could go to any of the meetings. Mm-hmm So yeah, I went to a lot of meetings he went to homebrew. I went to this one in Berkeley There was uh, I think Palo Alto Computer Club if i'm not mistaken or that was home brew? I'm not and they all had their own bbs generally, yeah dialing about the vbs was interesting because They would have the same experts and you could ask questions on the BBS and get your questions answered by something doesn't work. Those were the days where he had to write or borrow, or find someone else who could write drivers for printers. Oh, it's a pre-Windows days there was no simple way of talking to a printer. The term in Silicon Valley was hey man it's all about the drivers wasn't that like the number one thing? All about the drivers!

56:29 Well, I don't know about that. But the drivers were quite important yes because if you didn't have the right driver peripherals wouldn't work yeah it's still kind of that way I was still seeing some driver issues. So the CCC did an excellent presentation You'll find it in the show notes. I clipped one little bit of it just to give you an idea To set it up they only did this on Android They only did it with a select number of apps But the apps that were reporting a lot of information The ones I found interesting word the period tracker Just imagine if you're tracking your period what kind of information that says about you and

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Religious and Health App Data Collection

Specific mobile applications, including a King James Bible app and various period trackers, are identified as sharing granular user data with Facebook. The Bible app reportedly tracks specific verses read by the user, while other apps transmit hardware data such as battery percentage and accelerometer positions.

king james bible app· period tracker· data privacy· accelerometer· battery status

56:29 Well, I don't know about that. But the drivers were quite important yes because if you didn't have the right driver peripherals wouldn't work yeah it's still kind of that way I was still seeing some driver issues. So the CCC did an excellent presentation You'll find it in the show notes. I clipped one little bit of it just to give you an idea To set it up they only did this on Android They only did it with a select number of apps But the apps that were reporting a lot of information The ones I found interesting word the period tracker Just imagine if you're tracking your period what kind of information that says about you and

57:06 and what information is being sent, but also travel apps, baby progression apps. Anything that's free pretty much and even although they didn't do enough study on it even if you upgrade from the freemium to the premium model, the advertising SDK just sits there. It just sits in there and whenever you open the app it's sending data. Here is a clip from this presentation which I thought was real eye opener about the true spying that is going on. So our first finding was that over 61% of apps we tested automatically transfer data before user has any other like they literally just opened the app so 21 out 34. For example here is kayak

57:52 And as you'll see, pretty much immediately from when the app is clicked that first request is straight to graph.facebook.com and it sends a whole load of other data to many other companies besides. I could let this go on for awhile but ultimately end up on their home screen which was kind of amusing because its got this at the bottom of it which says don't worry we will never share anything without your permission Are you able to hear this? Yeah. So, sending all this data... I want to mention that Kayak is the website that Obama if you recall used to promote endlessly Oh yeah! Well wait they have a little bit more info on kayak in this clip

58:41 So the top example here is Kayak and Kayak sends your entire search to Facebook every time you do a search in their app, which is lovely. And it's interesting what they send because it's not just for the content of your search there's also some other stuff like your user score whatever that is and it's got obfuscated session IDs and all sorts of other things that are sending to Facebook The other one that's on the bottom here is the King James Bible. And it's quite typical of a lot of ways that app developers implement the SDK and allows them to track your usage through the app, so this one actually told you which verse and passage of the Bible you'd read which is what Facebook needs to know! What a nerd... But think about that

59:36 Facebook knows what chapter or verse you're on in your King James Bible app. But we don't do anything with your data! So, and then the last bit is the actual advertising data that Facebook uses and this is a request to their ad network And some slightly interesting stuff that comes from here is the device is on charge, the battery percentage is full. There's free space and this isn't even the most comprehensive example I've seen other data on there such as accelerometer positions Another slight interesting thing again all linked with the app ID. So yeah, it's crucial to remember that this happens whether you're a Facebook user or you're not on Facebook and whether your logged in or you're not logged in so profiles are being made regardless of whether you have a Facebook account well if you don't have a Facebook account well you'll have to use some of these apps and a profile is being built People don't know this This is really really evil

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AncestryDNA EULA and Genetic Data Ownership

The End User License Agreement (EULA) for AncestryDNA is scrutinized for clauses that grant the company a perpetual, royalty-free, worldwide license to use a customer's DNA data. The discussion highlights that after three years, users may lose certain claims to the ownership of their test results while the company retains usage rights.

ancestrydna· eula· genetic data· privacy· licensing· dna testing

1:00:39 And there are thousands. It's all to give you the advertising you want, Adam. Oh sure! Advertising targeted to YOU Yes... But they're doing this before the app even is functional for YOU You're just opening the app and it's sending all this That's what Chrome does too! You open up Chrome it's talking to Homebase for an hour Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Oh really? Well I mean, cookies. I thought there was a bunch of laws about you can't go on somebody else's machine and start using their storage. Hmm... I know when you sign up for one of the browsers it probably has it in the terms of service. When you sign up to term as a service should be illegal The worst is AncestryDNA we now know that they're EULA

1:01:38 They actually, so if you get your DNA tested through AncestryDNA and you sign off like yeah okay this is good I'm good to go. You can have my DNA data and you can process it what you are actually agreeing to is a perpetual royalty-free worldwide license to use your DNA for anything they want to Next to uncovering your ethnic mix, discovering distant relatives finding new details about your unique family history with this simple DNA test. But what's interesting is after I think it's three years then that DNA data they have is no longer yours It's theirs in perpetuity

1:02:20 But you no longer have, you can use it but you no longer have any claim to ownership of the results of that test. It's right in their user licensing agreement. Another thing to avoid! Well it's hard to avoid EULAs Well, something's got to be done about that. I keep seeing it little cracks in the ice. It's eventually going to happen. I think this will be an interesting year for technology for more like de-platforming people figuring out what was really going on. It takes a long time for people to understand and for it to bubble to the top. And you need some kind of event with something that people can just point to a headline and understand. What are you talking about? The normals? Yes. Your mom

CHAPTER 21 / 51 Discussion

News Blooper and No Agenda Artwork

The hosts play a news clip where an anchor mistakenly says "Dwayne 12" instead of Day 12 of the government shutdown. They also credit Network Dali for the episode 1099 artwork, which features a calendar and a popular meme of a screaming social justice warrior.

dwayne 12· network dali· beto o'rourke· social justice warrior· meme

1:03:13 Not your mom, but the normal people. Exactly it's true Well I got a... well couple of interesting things happened Oh here is the one i wanted you to play this is the spot the flub clip Changing the topic. Okay, right into it? I want you to see if you can spot the flub. It's Dwayne 12 of the government shutdown as President Trump prepares for another White House meeting with congressional leaders. Did she say it's Blay-Blay 12? It's Dwayne 12. Was this New Year's Eve? It's Dwayne 12. Was she hammered already? It's Dwayne 12! It's a Dwayne... It's Dwayne 12. Alright, and with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the C in China is John C. Dvorak

1:04:19 In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry also in the morning to all the ships that see all the boots on the ground All the feet in the air and all subs in the water and all the dames and all the nights out there! In the morning to The Troll Room Hello trolls welcome to your episode 1100 Thank you for all of you who've been here for the ride at noagendastream.com where you can always check us out live on Thursdays and Sundays Also I'd like to say in the morning to Network Dali who brought us the artwork for episode 1099? And the title of that was Wobama Referencing Beto, who Obama and we like this artwork It's always easy to do a happy new year or New Year's thing But this was a calendar spanning 2016 to 2024 with our favorite screaming social justice warrior You know the one on her knees screaming to the heavens that Trump was elected a little arrow you are here 2018 I've already seen this one remixed online people changing it to 2019 and it said the image is kind of meanie. Oh

CHAPTER 22 / 51 Discussion

Producer Donations and Job Karma Requests

Producer Craig Porter contributes $1100.11 and shares that he successfully found a new job in Portland, Oregon, after requesting "Job Karma" on a previous show. He also mentions obtaining his HAM radio technician license. The hosts discuss the difficulty of navigating PayPal's interface to track historical donation totals.

craig porter· job karma· ham radio· paypal· donation

1:05:16 Like it's a new meme. It was good yeah, I thought so it was uh It was a tough show to do a Lm art for but it wasn't a tough show to Contribute for the next show which is show 1100 So we had the eleven hundred obviously eleven hundred dollar donation Which we didn't actually promote but three people came in with that hmm? We promoted the 110 dollar donation but and these guys like they're all 1100 one of them decides to jump to jump to The line jumped a cute jump to the top of the stack. Yeah, sir Craig Porter ke 0 uak 73 73 kilo 5 alpha Charlie Charlie fs8 call yo in council bluffs Iowa with $1100 and eleven cents

1:06:13 Hello John and Adam, on show 1080 I wrote to ask for jobs karma in abeyance since I thought I might get fired. And you guys gave me some good tips on how to cover my ass." We did? Well it turns out... Vaguely remember but that's one of the things we were both good at. Me mainly. I was gonna say! Well except for the government. Who is this weird- It turned out that I ended up leaving that job. I've been unemployed since October 30th but good news I got a job offer in Portland Oregon That's also the bad news, by the way. Starting at the end of this month Job Karma Works! I also decided to get my HAM technician license on my time off and i'm studying for the general exam. Very good!

1:06:55 what my peerage level is. I know I'm probably around Viscount, but I don't want to go back over the years and find all the accounting maybe one of these days before I start my new job if any other producers have an easy way to find out all the donations other than combing through this show notes. I'd certainly appreciate it. I'd like to request a full L Sharpton jingle in Karma shot for everyone who needs it. Congratulations on 1100 shows you guys are the best 73s So it can't, uh... the shill help him out? How's he gonna go through the numbers that this guy sent in? I don't know. No no no! I thought he had- no? Maybe i'm wrong Yeah three years ago we had a program that was using there was contact list whatever it was you told me terrible yeah yeah it was well that's what did that job and now we don't have any more so somehow this turned into my fault resist

1:07:50 We must they're all jitty about a shutdown the tortise in the race then co-author of who breathes you to lead singer Bono friend Russia we've suspect Jahar Sonaia Rush Limbaugh You've got karma. Thank you very much sir Craig let's figure it out or I can if since Craig sends this, I think he uses PayPal exclusively, I can probably go into the PayPal books Which, believe me is not user friendly. And the worst part about PayPal is that it's a classic example of a web app or you know web cloud app You know you click and wait Just like an electron app

CHAPTER 23 / 51 Discussion

Grand Duke Wayne and Flash Meetup Announcement

Grand Duke Wayne of Tigard, Oregon, donates $1100. The hosts announce a "flash meetup" organized by Mimi at the Gilman Brewery in Berkeley, California. The event is scheduled for Friday from 5:00 PM to 8:00 PM and will feature appearances by the hosts and "Theodorable."

wayne melon· gilman brewery· berkeley· flash meetup· mimi· theodorable

1:08:40 It's like you click and you wait. Yeah, and you wait I might get some somewhere I mean if he gives me some exam where you think she thinks his vice cannot work with that All right onward ladies and gentlemen. I present the grand duke of the Pacific Northwest says Wayne Melon song That's right everybody here is once again Grand Duke So Grand Duke Dwayne, Tigard Oregon at $1100. ITM and a happy 1100 from the Grand Duke of the Pacific Northwest 2018 was challenging for donations giving and receiving there's a plentiful here's to a plentiful 2019 I hope so And what happens if the economy collapses? How would our numbers look like it would suck not necessarily Not necessarily really karma too yes really

1:09:39 Karma to all producers and now this one's the challenge I think that would, I said oh I don't know if Adam can do this one. A random Ocasio-Cortez ISO for all the freeloaders who have never stepped up? ISO! Do we even have a ISO from her? I think we got some clips from her but no ISOs that i know of. But I think Dwayne may be referring to clips. ISOs are very specific, like one or two or three word pops that we specifically cut out to use at the end of the show or elsewhere. Let's see what I have here... I would support impeachment. I think that you know, we have the grounds to do it. I think what really we need to focus on is making sure that we are advocating for the policies to win in November but ultimately i think that what we need to kind of focus on

1:10:36 No, you've got karma. Bad idea! There's no such thing as a Cortez ISO because she can't stop talking. Nothing short enough exactly and finally Sir Patrick Coble who is Murfreesboro Knight $1100 he's the one who helped organize that meet up in Sacramento and by the way we have a meet-up tomorrow I mentioned a couple times in the show, it's a flash meetup at the Gilman Brewery in Berkeley from 5 to 8. This was interesting this is something that Mimi put together? Yeah well she's down here and you know she likes to do these things more than anybody else Flash Meet up... Why does she like to do them so much

1:11:24 She doesn't get out much. I have no idea! She's like a gadfly up in the Pacific Northwest, she just likes meeting...I think because she is very compatico with the...compatico? Is that how you say it? I don't know. She is compatible with the New Agenda van base. Yeah well she's completely compatible. Not com-compatible I think is the word. Compatible. Compatible. I'm thinking of some Spanish phrase but that's okay. Simpatico. Flash, anyways a flash meet up tomorrow at the this fabulous Gilman brewery. Nice Award-winning brews and you'll be there as well not just Mimi. Oh yeah I know Mimi's doing her own thing getting her own podcast now Pretty sure that baby will be there. Ah the adorable? Yeah he is gonna be there He says a word now What's the word

1:12:28 Happy New Year from the new Earl. He's the Earl, we're gonna have him up and he wants times are a changing as the intro to that if you don't mind. Yes I will do that I would like to request some jobs car job speech and travel karma in anything from the rev to polish it out. Thank you for both thank you both of which have done for all of us in 2018 was a great no agenda year are there any meetup updates for Des Moines? To 2219 or Austin Austin's coming stay tuned Texas meet up in May perhaps now we're gonna do way before then

1:13:06 Way before then back office had to donate another $25 to hit Earl so the total for the day is ah 11 25 So he jumps the line nice Excellent good work all right. He needs a rev and he needs some jobs karma, right? Yes PICT jobs jobs Jobs and jobs let's vote for John I You've got karma. I, Tim and John and Adam this donation is made possible by listeners who made purchases of noagendashowshop.com shirts. This Tony Cabrera $602.73 cents in addition 602 was also distributed to artists whose work was used on purchased items. I look forward to 2019 being the year where everyone realizes Adam is the true pod father

CHAPTER 24 / 51 Discussion

International Donations and Climate Change Skepticism

Donations from Tony Cabrera and Neville Barham spark a discussion about climate change narratives in Australia. Barham notes that a scientist was dismissed for questioning the destruction of the Great Barrier Reef. The hosts argue that Australia's history of extreme weather is being reframed as a modern climate crisis.

australia· great barrier reef· climate change· tony cabrera· neville barham

1:13:06 Way before then back office had to donate another $25 to hit Earl so the total for the day is ah 11 25 So he jumps the line nice Excellent good work all right. He needs a rev and he needs some jobs karma, right? Yes PICT jobs jobs Jobs and jobs let's vote for John I You've got karma. I, Tim and John and Adam this donation is made possible by listeners who made purchases of noagendashowshop.com shirts. This Tony Cabrera $602.73 cents in addition 602 was also distributed to artists whose work was used on purchased items. I look forward to 2019 being the year where everyone realizes Adam is the true pod father

1:14:08 Dvorak gets his $400 Bitcoin. Is that your target? Well, actually my real target is 50 cents but I'm not an idiot. Okay And more people discover No Agenda is the best podcast in the universe Boom shaka laka and little girl yay please. Joseph Finley in Louisville Ohio 4444 ITM executives and happy new year slaves, please stay on the DRC story. Something is fishy. This song about the Congo Disappoint in my daughter and wife for wanting watches called them a slave in the Apple watch store which drew strange looks

1:15:03 You gotta be careful with that. Shout out to Phone Boy, Jingles, DudeNameBen, PewPew and GoatKarma for everybody! You've gotta be really careful... I also no longer wear my No Agenda Slave t-shirt It doesn't go over well anymore When we first made him it was kinda cool but not anymore DudeNameBen You've Got Karma. Yeah, we were ahead of our times. Oh yeah! Sir Jimmy Jones... James? Sir Jimmy James in the parts unknown looks like 360 bucks Thanks for all you do is 360 because the show turned my mental perception towards information all the way around I have always been a skeptic but somehow they still got me this yes is a problem

1:16:03 I hope you two have a happy holiday. Okay? Okay. Sums things up. Sir Neville Barham, 350. 350 is in Australia. That's 350 probably, it's probably about $200 in American but we give him credit for 350. Climate change is blamed for brush fires floods etc in Australia the fact that Australia has a few thousand years been dry hot and sometimes has floods and hurricanes does not seem to matter one of the few scientists who questioned the science of the Great Barrier Reef destruction by climate change was dismissed by his university

1:16:46 My very lefty, your liberal sister listened to Noah Jem agenda once and felt it was too old men. Oh! Winge-winge-winging. Winging. Well your sister's a bigot She is a bigot Like a good lefty, she does not let facts or healthy debate get in the way of what a lefty believes is the truth. The US climate change and leftist agendas have infected conservative politics in Australia I am not a fan either side of politics

CHAPTER 25 / 51 Discussion

Historical California Weather Records and Mudflats

A report from 1860 by a botanist in California describes torrential rains that turned the Central Valley into a lake, alongside extreme heat and earthquakes. The hosts compare historical maps of San Francisco Bay mudflats from the 1880s to modern maps to argue that environmental conditions have remained largely consistent over time.

california· central valley· floods· san francisco bay· mudflats· 1860

1:17:23 Please any boom shakalaka and some karma for an old white guy. Just on that for a second because he's talking historically about Australia, there was an article in the LA Times this weekend or couple days ago about a botanist in New York who went to California in 1860 as a part of the newly formed California Division of Mines and Geology, and he wrote about this or yeah... He blogged it. I guess blogging of the day And here's what just to give you an idea because we think California is bad It's all climate change just like they're doing in Australia Yeah, he witnessed torrential rains

1:18:05 that turned the Central Valley into a vast white-capped lake, intolerable heat waves that made the fats of our meats run away in spontaneous gravy, violent earthquakes and fires he described as great sheets of flame extending over acres. Yes it is a hell in California! I guess was always that way. Yeah...I know well Just to bring it back home where I can look out the window and see the mudflats, I have a map one of our producers sent me from 1880s or 1890s showing the mud flats on San Francisco Bay where they were then. And then he sent a newer map showing where they are now exactly the same! Climate change is real! It's real! Boomshakalaka! You've got karma. Boomshakalaka and boomshakalaka

CHAPTER 26 / 51 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony and Episode 1100 Milestone

The hosts conduct a knighting ceremony for several high-level donors and celebrate reaching 1100 episodes. They reflect on the "Value for Value" model and thank the producers for financing the show over the past eleven years without traditional corporate sponsorship.

knighthood· peerage· alexandria ocasio-cortez· donation· milestone

1:19:00 Sir JD, our buddy up there. Our buddy down there in Silicon Valley. Baron $333.71 you wrote a lengthy note Dear Mutt and Jeff congratulations on show 1100 Happy New Year's wishes to you both all the nights day producers supporters of the by the way if you're listening Flash meet up tomorrow at You got to do it differently you got to do like He's gotta break in the middle of your sentence all of a sudden just go like where is it? Flash news meetup tomorrow flash meetup. I don't have the board

1:19:36 Baron of Silicon Valley here with a simple Pelosi jobs, jobs, jobs. Goat karma requests and some birthday wishes to add to the list to show 1100 please accept this value for devalue donation 333 dot 7 1 2 help sustain TBP ITU happy birthday wishes Happy Birthday wishes that he's got the list. Yeah, they're all on the list. Yep Have a great 2019 Thank you very much. He wanted... Pelosi, Joe? Oh he has a title upgrade but he's gonna push that off, he says Okay well when you're ready the podium will be yours Jobs! Jobs! Jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs! You thought. Karma Sir D of Holland-Dash-Rading Hollandsrading Hollandasrading Close 3333

1:20:29 in Holland. Happy New Year to all new Agenda listeners and producers, and of course the creators John and Adam. No! We're not creators stop I don't want to be a creator. I think it was his idea of a gag yes It's been a good year people are waking up here in the lowlands but most of them are not ready to put on a Gilhijsje. Hail Hesje. That is a yellow vest, gheel, yellow... Hesje vest. Gheel hesje. Alternative media like the TPO podcast is growing but real debates are still hard to find too afraid what other people might think too afraid that we might think keep it good work in 2019 love the show sir D thank you very much dank je Markus Muller and Manta bar Deutschland

1:21:25 333. This is Marcus Muller, finishing up my knighthood I shall be known as Sir Marcus of the Hinterland A foamer karma would be nice Please continue the great work and a happy new year. Oh sorry! Oh my god! Listen to that horn! You've got karma Onward to the associate executive producer for show 1100 Sir Keith, $211. Happy New Year and many more to come! Please send a little health karma my way thank you No I'm gonna send a lot of health karma your way not just a little...a lot! You've got Karma! There ya go sir Keith. Now in Bryn Mawr Pennsylvania Robert McMorrin 201 dollars and 90 cents

1:22:16 He writes, resolving to be less of a douche in 2019. I have received many dollars worth of deconstruction since my smoking hot wife hit me in the mouth a couple years ago. Oh that's interesting! So we have the reversal? The wife hitting her husband...in the mouth In the mouth. I'm chipping away at the arrears to prevent her from kicking me in mine! NJNK. Thank you, happy new year appreciate it and your smoking hot wife And that's it That's the end of our group for some reason I'm gonna mention this but commander Cody who came in $199 says he didn't want him He did that because he doesn't want to be a producer is a grump Just don't just don't want it

1:23:02 Well, I want to thank our executive producers and our episode club members today. This has been fantastic show 1100 it's all of us have done this you know i know i sound like alexandria ocasio-cortez when i say it but it really is true the show would not be possible without our producers everywhere. You produce in many different ways, we love having the executive producers and associate executive producers like to thank them up front not dissimilar to Hollywood because you finance the show but also thank you to everyone who came in $50 will be thanking them and also under that I mean it's been 1100 episodes has been eleven years it's a big 1111 and were very proud and happy are just whistling through my thing by my soliloquy

1:23:49 Yeah, it was. If I should get the harmonica out it would add more color but... Yes okay toots Please remember us for our next show the second one of 2019 which will be on Sunday More deconstruction for you! So you can take all that Chinese news go out there tell everybody about it by propagating Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth Order! Okay, so I see that Jordan Peterson and Ruben are still on this. Are they still trying to make a new platform? Kick.

CHAPTER 27 / 51 Discussion

Jordan Peterson and Dave Rubin Leaving Patreon

Jordan Peterson and Dave Rubin announced they are leaving the Patreon platform due to concerns over censorship and the de-platforming of other creators. The hosts discuss the "Taliban beard" of Patreon CEO Jack Conte and argue that creators should use direct banking methods or checks rather than relying on third-party subscription platforms.

jordan peterson· dave rubin· patreon· jack conte· crowdfunding

1:24:45 It's a new platform and they're gonna get all both of them are going to be off patreon on the 15th And everyone's moaning and groaning about patreon, and the guy this This jack dorsey clone that's running it with the same beard wait isn't it. Isn't it Jack door? Oh the Conti is his name conti yeah, yeah He's got the same Taliban beard what does this taliban beard look in Silicon Valley of late I don't know You live there, you should know. I don't know! I'm gonna have to ask around Let's listen to what they have to say and because there was at least one thing that thought was interesting...I got two clips Here they are about hate speech and there's a Peterson specifically mentions the Southern Poverty Law Center And i think it's in agreement with the way we- Can I just back up for one second? Because we don't enough of that and I promised myself I'd do that starting this year

1:25:40 is we're talking about these two guys who are leaving the funding platform Patreon because someone else got kicked off. Somehow they think that these... These platforms are necessary to take money, whereas you can get money through checks. People can actually send... You know you could wire money to someone's bank account? Did you know that John? It is this crazy thing we have! Unbelievable! I know there are all kinds of ways you could do it. There is popmoney and you could even make your bank send checks automatically There are numerous, countless ways to get money. Now Zelle is another one which I'm still not quite hooked up to but Pop Money works great bank transfers or swift transfers are there a pricey but they do work and then you like you said and there's a bunch of different systems out there where you can sign up and then they will send checks. Yeah. You sent it through your bank sometimes.

1:26:38 And you get checks, they just come in an envelope. There's a bunch of checks. So for whatever reason they believe that they need to start a new platform... I know this is the most baffling thing! To me it's very very odd even PayPal is a platform on top of a platform. You know PayPal basically covers for MasterCard Yeah, and MasterCard covers for the bank. So yes I understand frictionless but even the subscription model...I mean do you really? To me it's a little denigrating to the audience You're so stupid to figure out how to send money to this show we have to make it simple We got to charge your card automatically every single month that we take it! I don't like it! Do we do that?!

1:27:28 Uh, yeah but mmm... Not the same way Patreon does. It's different Patreon does it per show you put out, then all of a sudden the money goes... Oh no. Patreon is extreme. This thing I do not bitch at. Well you might sit here and bitch about Patreon why not? Patreon is very rigid about the way we do a lot of promotions of all kinds of things like $110 and $1100 and things like that in a lot of this You know you set up a special button or link to PayPal and they ask for that amount And it changes all the time. We're always changing, we have Valentine's Day and all these things... You can't do all that with Patreon! I'm a patron and I pledge $5 a month forever Oh you have 2500 patrons and this sort of thing Patrons? It is so lame! I think Peterson in particular who was making I think 100 thousand dollars a month or something like that on Patreon Which is quite high I don't think it was quite that high

1:28:30 But whatever it was, he could be making twice as much if he was just doing his own solicitations. But when I hear these guys talk and I've listened to them... And I subscribe to their podcasts so I'll listen and or watch probably more i'd listen more to it than watch you know the Peterson is also calling in everywhere talking about how unfair it is that these you know that you're kicked off the internet! And I just don't agree this is a very smart guy who has not looked any further than you know the apps on his phone You can get around all of this. All of it! Yeah, maybe someday a hundred years from now you won't be able to or even 50 who knows but

CHAPTER 28 / 51 Discussion

YouTube Dependency and Financial De-platforming

The discussion explores the risks of creators relying on YouTube for distribution and income. The hosts cite the example of WikiLeaks bypassing financial blocks and mention rumors that MasterCard pressured platforms to remove specific creators like Sargon of Akkad. They advocate for decentralized platforms like BitChute and Mastodon.

youtube· bitchute· wikileaks· mastercard· sargon of akkad· censorship

1:29:12 You can get around all of it. These are not real roadblocks unless you've painted yourself into a corner, a Patreon corner or some other corner where this is... you're relying on somebody else, a third party! I mean we do that to some extent with PayPal but i've never had any trouble with PayPal actually like working their system because- You know what it is? There's this belief The belief is, so they're all on YouTube. I think for Peterson and Rubin those are their main means of distribution What i don't see them doing is saying hey why don't I shadow this on BitChute or some other place? You know BitChute is essentially mastodon for video you know no one can really shut it off

1:29:57 your videos will stay up, they'll be available somewhere somehow. But they feel that they need YouTube Now I understand if you've quit your job and you're making money through YouTube and you do not want to rock that boat but don't you see it coming down Broadway? How long before they are de-platformed off of YouTube It can't be long Even for the reason Google is sitting there going yeah i'm not making any money from these guys screw them take em off There's a million different reasons. I just don't understand it, anyway... I digress! I don't understand it these are smart guys which clip do we play first? The one thing-I just want to throw in a couple of comments too It's always baffled me the peer group pressure that we even got to use Patreon

1:30:46 We had a number of people write, oh you should use Patreon. What you guys are doing is so you can use Patreon it's easier. Well maybe it's easier for this guy because he's a member or something and he can just go bounce around and I'll give him five bucks. And then Patreons sends you four. The whole thing was we were against the idea of third party like Patreon getting involved. You know there are banks that will help you too by the way most banks unless your in the pot business The pop is the banks don't like that by the way but there's a government if the government goes after you know these guys are bitching and moaning because they're being deplatformed by douchebags it's not the government if the government says hey.

1:31:29 We're cutting this guy off. Call PayPal, I mean they did this with Wikileaks call PayPal hey look you guys really gonna make your life miserable? Kill Wikileaks okay you want to go to the banks and say no don't take anything they can cut them off as best they can but WikiLeaks is still going They've gotten around most of it And the point is, I don't see why you would trust... If the government goes after another, which what I'm saying is that if the government went after these two guys Rubin and Peterson. Yeah then they had-I think they have something to complain about. But it's not the government!

1:32:06 It's just random douchebags running these little Silicon Valley operations trying to make money off of you. And if you dive into MasterCard, they are all in on diversity and Soros gave migrant caravans Maybe not this most recent one, but it wouldn't surprise me the credit card a debit cards master cards with money on it Yeah The last the most recent one that would I don't know which one you're talking about. Don't want to came up from up through Nicaragua Yeah, but they did the same. They had cards? Yeah they do this a lot of this stuff so they have all these social agendas they have entire divisions they feel that it's appropriate for their company to support certain initiatives and also to not support others So well there is a rumor going around that MasterCard put the kibosh on someone Yes on your Akkad... your Saad Abakkad guy whoever his name is Was it Saad Abakkad?

CHAPTER 29 / 51 Discussion

Jordan Peterson on Hate Speech Regulation and SPLC

Jordan Peterson discusses the dangers of tech companies using the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) to define and regulate "hate speech." He argues that while restricting ISIS recruitment is reasonable, the broad application of these rules by private companies creates a dangerous precedent for censorship.

jordan peterson· hate speech· southern poverty law center· facebook· skype

1:33:08 Yes, if you read through the transcript of the trust and safety team call to whoever guy was asking about it. So yeah no MasterCard says that we are you really gotta get rid of this guy I'm paraphrasing. Well why? I find this hard to believe Yeah its in the... You think that might be bogus? Well we don't have the audio because the guys said he promised not to use the audio but he used the transcript so I don't know I don't know if its truthful I think it is Why not? It makes nothing but sense to me. I don't want to say it, it makes sense to me. All right well let's listen to these two guys and see what they're saying. Which one first? SPLC first How do we create a credibly diverse range of opinions if such regulation needs Well it's really for the last year but intensely in the last month

1:33:58 Is what actually is the problem itself? Because until we really figure out what the problem is... Well, I think the problem is how to regulate an incredibly diverse range of opinions. If such regulation needs to be instantiated, we could take a limit case. For example the desire of companies like Facebook not to have their platforms used for recruitment for ISIS It's hard to make a case that that is not a reasonable restriction But then the next issue is I think you can make an exception there because maybe you consider it as wartime exception or something like that

1:34:37 But then the fundamental problem to me seems to be and I'll return again to that change the terms website that a whole variety of companies and organizations Spearheaded in not least by this other poverty law center that hateful organization. Yeah, the worst That has decided that they're going to compel encourage What a fame perhaps companies that don't band together to regulate what they see as hate speech. Yeah, all right Professor genius is he just figuring this out? I like Peter Simba come on the psychology degree didn't come with any business degree I guess

1:35:23 No. I mean, they're using Skype by the way we use Skype too but are we totally prepared for a deep platforming from Skype? Yeah i think so! We got other things we can use... it would be sad because Skype really is great product for how we use it. I don't see.. we're not really... Skype is really closest thing to a common carrier that you can be Because there's no Skype show. Skype has all kinds of rules, they're whole new terms of services you can't use hate speech while talking to someone else on Skype it's in their Terms Of Service I haven't seen that Yes! It's in... ugh

1:35:59 Alright, hold on I will go to bingit.io Does that imply they're listening to all these conversations? Or do they have one of those NSA word recognizing codes running going boop! Wouldn't surprise me I don't know if i'll be able to find that this quickly but I really remember. Let's play part two because this one here you just talked about is certain naivete, I want to discuss naivete after it plays this one. One of the things that I can't fathom in some sense is the lack of imagination on the part of the people who are engaging

CHAPTER 30 / 51 Discussion

Historical Context of De-platforming Tactics

The hosts provide historical context for modern de-platforming, noting that pressure tactics and advertiser boycotts were pioneered by the Christian Right decades ago. They review Skype's terms of service, which allow the company to block communications or close accounts to enforce content standards.

censorship· boycotts· christian right· terms of service· skype

1:35:59 Alright, hold on I will go to bingit.io Does that imply they're listening to all these conversations? Or do they have one of those NSA word recognizing codes running going boop! Wouldn't surprise me I don't know if i'll be able to find that this quickly but I really remember. Let's play part two because this one here you just talked about is certain naivete, I want to discuss naivete after it plays this one. One of the things that I can't fathom in some sense is the lack of imagination on the part of the people who are engaging

1:36:42 Censorship of what they regard as hate speech like there's an old military adage Which is that if you invent a weapon it will be used by your enemy within 15 years Okay, so why what makes the people on the on the left because they're the ones who are doing this What as you can clearly see? in the Change the Terms website. What makes them so sure that exactly the same tactics won't be used against them at the drop of a hat once the tactics have been validated and put in place? Hello, hello. Where do you think they got these tactics from? They got them from the right-wingers of these family organizations that would pressure the TV stations not to play this not to play that. That's right! And have a boycott...they'd go after the advertisers just like these guys and I will say it was the Christian Right probably who did most of that. Yeah, the Christian Right, the Evangelists

1:37:41 And the rest of this crowd, mostly a couple of organizations pressure organizations. I got to do a beef with one of them because i was promoting the .xxx domain which went through and I got back and forth and then I got mentioned as a douchebag for promoting this and I was, I went back and forth with them. So I can't remember the name of this group is one of these same pressure groups that I said look, this is try it. The idea is to take all the porn and push it over into a corner would not been required dot XXX and they didn't see it that way. They said that dot XXX was just encouraging more porn! And then if I was a horrible person for suggesting this and anyway you get into these groups have been around mostly on the right

1:38:23 They've been always, actually most all of them have been on the right and 15 years later just like Peterson said the left is now using the same tactics but he thinks it's like the beginning of something. It's not! Yeah this is a great American tradition. What's he thinking? This is a great American tradition we de-platform We pressure you with public shaming. We pressure your advertisers...this has been going on for a long time And that's why we took the model we took. We may stop providing services to you or we may close your account. We also block delivery of a communication like email, file sharing, or instant message to our from the service is an effort to enforce these terms blah blah blah." It was very clear and it was a big deal everyone was talking about it

1:39:22 Yeah, well I'm not worried. That's the least of my problems is worrying about Skype but my point is We're prepared for that you know with this But no one's gonna pull by anything could happen but pulling the plug on our distribution Unlikely because we don't rely on it. I don't even get a crap about Twitter You care more about than I do mastodon are no agenda social calm I get oh I got a lot more out of that It's really It's really grown too. Not just our network, but the whole... I go there all the time! You do not you lie! Lie! Everyone is always tagging you and never respond. I've been for a couple of weeks. You just lie. And people as i said 2019 people are going to start getting pissed off about this stuff. I love what happening now with the uh where was this taking place? So in Arizona

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Backlash Against Autonomous Vehicles and Electric Cars

In Arizona, residents are reportedly attacking Waymo self-driving cars by slashing tires and throwing rocks. Meanwhile, a trend called "icing" has emerged in Oklahoma, where internal combustion engine truck drivers block electric vehicle charging stations. The hosts view these actions as a revolt against "technology tyranny."

waymo· arizona· autonomous vehicles· icing· electric vehicles· tesla

1:38:23 They've been always, actually most all of them have been on the right and 15 years later just like Peterson said the left is now using the same tactics but he thinks it's like the beginning of something. It's not! Yeah this is a great American tradition. What's he thinking? This is a great American tradition we de-platform We pressure you with public shaming. We pressure your advertisers...this has been going on for a long time And that's why we took the model we took. We may stop providing services to you or we may close your account. We also block delivery of a communication like email, file sharing, or instant message to our from the service is an effort to enforce these terms blah blah blah." It was very clear and it was a big deal everyone was talking about it

1:39:22 Yeah, well I'm not worried. That's the least of my problems is worrying about Skype but my point is We're prepared for that you know with this But no one's gonna pull by anything could happen but pulling the plug on our distribution Unlikely because we don't rely on it. I don't even get a crap about Twitter You care more about than I do mastodon are no agenda social calm I get oh I got a lot more out of that It's really It's really grown too. Not just our network, but the whole... I go there all the time! You do not you lie! Lie! Everyone is always tagging you and never respond. I've been for a couple of weeks. You just lie. And people as i said 2019 people are going to start getting pissed off about this stuff. I love what happening now with the uh where was this taking place? So in Arizona

1:40:16 Where Waymo has rolled out their driverless cars. Oh, yeah people as predicted Yes People are throwing rocks at them slashing the tires trying to drive them off the road with their own vehicles I love this Yeah, I this was a wrote this calm years ago saying that vandalism is because people at some point, yeah I think the idea is great. And I think the technology almost works doesn't quite it's just still missing a few pieces but i think the public they're not going to put up with it not initially its gonna take years before they get used to wanting these things and seeing how convenient they are but yeah their running them off the road. And in Oklahoma there's a new trend called icing. Icing stands for internal combustion engine-ing where pickup drivers

1:41:08 Park their trucks in front of the electric vehicle charging stations And and don't move. Yeah, there's backlash on all of this stuff yeah all of it But I think the boy man didn't the stock market today Apple got hammered for something It's like everything's crashing again, and we'll see we'll see how well the technology does it's kind of it's like a small flaw I think in professor Ted's reasoning It seems that certainly the American population, a percentage of it small is revolting against technology tyranny. Just against the tyranny? Yeah what do you mean

1:41:55 The tyranny, oh you gotta do this. You gotta do that and you can't get any gas mileage or drive a car with the V8. You have to have small electric car death trap. But you get free charging but when it first came out there was free charging everywhere I used to be able to park my electric car at Costco and plug in for free now its all paid charging You get a nice parking spot, but you have to pay to get your car charged. So what happened with the free charging? There's no free lunch. I guess Tesla still has some free charging but then I think that somebody made an adapter so the Tesla charger would fit into anything and these things don't work these schemes. For all this technology that is why we have

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Eric Prince and Electric Vehicle Metal Fund

Blackwater founder Eric Prince has launched a fund to invest in metals required for electric vehicle batteries, such as cobalt. The fund focuses on mining operations in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC). Prince is described as a savvy investor positioning himself in the green energy supply chain.

eric prince· blackwater· cobalt· batteries· electric vehicles· drc

1:42:46 China, all over the DRC, the Congo. That's why you've got lots of crap going on there people jockeying position because they need the minerals and who else pops up in this? And then it's real Blackwater founder Eric Prince Yeah I love this Has launched a fund for electric car metals I think it's metals for batteries more than just electric vehicles This guy is smart Oh he's one of the smartest guys out there I don't know if you run a fund though, that's a lot different of business. Yeah... He just feels like- That was fun to does. He is the front man. He is going have to go team up with one other VCs but they're all be embarrassed oh! Oh that guy we can't hookup with him and we have to do our green thing. Yeah he is the wrong figurehead isn't it? Yeah he is not El Gore or he is not Colin Powell.

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The Decline of the Term Woke

NPR reports that the term "woke" has moved from a fringe activist term to a mainstream cliché, signaling its decline in cultural relevance. The word's origins are traced back to a 1962 essay by William Melvin Kelly. Linguists suggest that once African American vernacular is adopted by the white mainstream, it is often abandoned by its original creators.

woke· npr· black lives matter· william melvin kelly· linguistics

1:43:49 Saying of discussing Kleiner Perkins. I did learn some things over the New Year's break from the Millennials The word woke is out can't use the word woke anymore Because you because you should just be woke and if you say if you say, I'm woke You're actually incredibly unwoke we understand No, well that it probably stems from then Jill Abrams slamming in your way. No, you're going too fast. You're going to fast Because I have a clip from NPR to explain to you that woke is over. And by the way, good! The concept of woke? Not so new You've heard the word a lot by this point Woke? Woke Yeah Woke Your annoying friend probably uses it You are so woke Politicians and celebrities use it To me being woke means... That you recognize Everybody uses it Are you even woke? I want us to stop

1:44:52 First, what exactly does WOKE mean? It's defined as aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues especially issues of racial and social justice. That's Emily Brewster she is an associate editor at Merriam-Webster the dictionary The Black Lives Matter movement is largely responsible for the rise of Woke this century. The word is tied to this idea of valuing and respecting blackness. Activists used it to urge people to take issues like the deaths of black people at the hands of police, Seriously. Nicole Holliday is a linguist at Pomona College, she says before that the word woke appeared in an essay decades ago. If you're woke you dig it by William Melvin Kelly and that was in 1962. Kelly argued that once black words used to define certain aspects of Blackness like cats or digit once they got to white people they were kind of over

1:45:47 Nicole Holliday thinks that has happened to woke this decade. It went from black, almost fringe to white and mainstream. So there's a couple of things in here that I found interesting one the fact that The exact way this is used woke comes from if you're woke you dig it New York Times article which explains why Maxine Waters really propagated it because she was in I think she was in Congress in 1962. My millennials, stay woke! But the idea that it really means the same thing as dig it man groovy hip you hip to me what they all is the same thing but yes and the finger snapping goes with it

1:46:27 Which is the cycle. It's just a fractal we're just going around in circles once again old beatnik bar But but the moment club was smoking reefer listening to poets The minute white people because here's the racist part of it, but the minute white people start using the term Oh yeah Then it's over then it's no then it's no good anymore. There's dumb woke and Shapiro wrote a call he's like Shapiro was a pretty good writer Don't like him as a host, but he's a pretty good writer and he claimed the term woke scolding for 2019 Never heard of it. Well. He's made about it's probably over but that Jill Abrams uses the term Allow me to remind everyone who Jill Abrams is I Read The New York Times like all day long mainly on my iPad app

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Jill Abramson Criticism of New York Times Woke Staff

Former New York Times executive editor Jill Abramson criticizes the paper in her new book, alleging that "woke" younger staff members have abandoned journalistic standards to pursue an anti-Trump agenda. She also notes that the paper's negative coverage of the president has resulted in a significant financial reward through increased digital traffic.

jill abramson· new york times· donald trump· journalism· howard kurtz

1:46:27 Which is the cycle. It's just a fractal we're just going around in circles once again old beatnik bar But but the moment club was smoking reefer listening to poets The minute white people because here's the racist part of it, but the minute white people start using the term Oh yeah Then it's over then it's no then it's no good anymore. There's dumb woke and Shapiro wrote a call he's like Shapiro was a pretty good writer Don't like him as a host, but he's a pretty good writer and he claimed the term woke scolding for 2019 Never heard of it. Well. He's made about it's probably over but that Jill Abrams uses the term Allow me to remind everyone who Jill Abrams is I Read The New York Times like all day long mainly on my iPad app

1:47:26 The original Berkeley Hummer Jill Abrams former editor of the New York Times. Jill Abrams, ex-editor executive editor of the New York Times slammed The Times! Slammed I'm telling you! We bought slam!!! And unfortunately we don't have a clip of her slamming The Times because she wrote an article but this play this overall take It's not an article it's in her book and Her use of the word woke as a term of ridicule Is she...it's in her book Yeah. It's not an article, it's in her book? Yeah I'm sorry it said that its in her new book. She has a new book and she slams the Times. The former executive editor of the New York Times Jill Abramson criticizing that newspaper in her upcoming book calling The Times news coverage unmistakably anti-Trump Let's bring in Howard Kurtz Fox News media analyst and host of Media Buzz She is not going to be making a lot of friends among her former colleagues at the New York Times with what she has to say in this book Howie

1:48:22 Absolutely not, John. But this is an extraordinary rebuke by Jill Abramson the former executive editor as you say and she not only calls the news coverage unmistakably anti-Trump she says the younger staff there, the woke staff members that she puts it are so concerned about what they see is the dangers of Trump's presidency that they want to throw out the old journalistic standards She also says given the paper's mostly liberal audience There's a financial reward for the times and running so many stories about Trump almost all the negative that is soaring traffic Yes, soaring traffic exactly yeah What good it does the country so just say something I since this is a book that has not yet been published. I Question what's really in there? This is your typical promotion who's publishing the book do we know oh

1:49:14 I don't know. One of the big boys." I'm not so sure that she slams The New York Times the way this Fox News report said... We'll find out when the book comes out Yeah, it's great promotion! I wouldn't have known she had a book otherwise we would've just thought it was from an article and the fact that she's not out there doing it herself with... Oh go fry I would love to have her read the book. Oh, the audio book! The audiobook! Read by Jill Abramson Yes it's 18 hours long but it's a very good book. Well staying in the newspaper industry Word is out we know what happened now

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North Korean Ransomware Attack on US Newspapers

The Los Angeles Times and other Tribune Publishing newspapers were hit by a Ryuk ransomware attack, which officials have attributed to North Korean hackers. The attackers reportedly demanded $640,000 to decrypt the files. The hosts express skepticism regarding the attribution to North Korea, suggesting it may be a convenient scapegoat for network security failures.

north korea· ryuk ransomware· la times· tribune publishing· cyberattack

1:50:00 It was North Korea who hacked the LA Times and other Tribune publishing related papers. Sure, it was. North Korea! Yes, North Korea it was Yeah the great hackers of the world none of them are computer illiterate they don't have...it's not part of their culture but yet they're the best. It's the Ryuk ransomware This is actually pretty fun to read a little bit deeper into it and it's not really discussed much. I found a couple of experts who figured out what was going on so they got hit by ransomware and the apparently some of these papers or the publishing company itself, or whoever it was paid out close to $640,000. And if you see the emails because they send you an email it's very professional this is not your I saw you jerking off on your webcam send me a Bitcoin and I'll send it all your entire address book This is very clear They actually sent along a key to decrypt one or two files

1:51:04 So to prove that they have the key, I say don't try any of these things. It'll immediately destroy your data." So this was not just some hack or some glitch no! This was a ransomware attack which they're blaming North Korea for whereas the only person you can really blame is your own network or the entity No, you're a network guy. Well I hate to blame the dude named Ben but yeah... Well there's a lot of incompetent dudes named Ben as every dude named Ben knows Yes and while on that topic tell us how you back up

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Data Backup Strategies and Black Mirror Bandersnatch

A host describes a multi-layered backup strategy involving separate drives, clones, and cloud storage. The conversation shifts to the Netflix interactive film *Black Mirror: Bandersnatch*, which contains hidden Atari code that can be decrypted via a cassette tape emulator to reveal a QR code.

backup· cloud· netflix· black mirror· bandersnatch· atari

1:51:49 currently, what your current methodology is so people can know what max safety is except for the one exception of not having something off-site. First of all all no agenda files are on a separate drive I have and that's duplicated So if two drives all files everything the whole kit and caboodle tens of thousands of files is on that every after every show Everything is backed up on this machine And I make a clone of the drive Because I know that everything was working and was fine, and should something happen. I can just pop in the new drive and be up and running And I also do a backup to the cloud

1:52:29 magical cloud. And Acronis itself has some kind of ransomware protection, they claim. Yeah... I'm not counting on it but they do have some form of protection. I personally back everything up to a cassette tape using the Kansas City Standard. You know Netflix has this- they try to do this interactive movie What's it called? Banderdash, I think. It's a Black Mirror production And have you not heard about this? This is interesting. I think I've heard about it and didn't really pay much attention because i'm not into interactive movies. Neither am I, and in fact when it started off like oh this is like CDI if you remember compact disc interactive where you can choose the storyline David Letterman used this joke he said one day says hey I go to see a movie not write one

1:53:29 Now I thought... I would hate this, and I did kind of hate it. The difference was... And maybe you mentioned this on the last show that because the story itself is about a guy building an adventure video game in the 80's that it kind of makes sense and its very meta in that regard but here what interesting that I heard yesterday at a certain you can end up with a difference It can end for you differently than somebody else there are probably 8 different endings But then in that ending, the guy pops a cassette because I played it twice. The guy pops a cassette tape into his Walkman and it's the good old... You know the sound of what my Commodore 64 or the Vic-20 or my ZX80 you would record your program onto a cassette tape yeah and I sat there thinking

1:54:24 If I was 10 years younger, I'd get up off the couch and go record that and find an emulator. And you know what? I was right! Apparently it's Atari code... ...and then when you decrypt it if you get an emulator it pops a rendering of a QR code You use the QR code to go to some website and you get no prize But there is a lot It was interesting Yeah, if you're yeah. You'd have to be about you said ten years ago? Yeah 10 years younger Maybe I would know no, I don't think so. I think maybe was 40 years younger I was No How old am I oh yeah, you're sure you're saying at the age of your 455 or 52 54 K you're 54

1:55:17 So you're telling me at the ripe age of 44, you're gonna download a code and find an old Atari and go through the agony of hooking it up. And then running this noise through it and getting a piece of QR code and banging with your phone to see where it goes? No! You are not doing this in 44. I'm glad you know me so well. Not buying it Okay, it's okay. You have too many things to do with your time Oh yeah I mean that is a time killer Oh yeah oh yeah I got lots of stuff to do with my time Well you've got more to do than that The solution is let some kid do it and then you can report it like you did on this like now so you might as well not done it Yes Somebody's gonna do it let him do it Okay Here's the little report from CNN And of course I have listed here in some way That its impossible for you ever figure out

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Witches Opposing Donald Trump's Use of Witch Hunt

CNN reports on modern-day witches and Wiccans who are offended by President Trump's frequent use of the term "witch hunt" to describe the Mueller investigation. Activists argue the term trivializes the historical execution of thousands of people during actual witch trials in Europe and Salem.

witches· wicca· donald trump· mueller investigation· salem witch trials· cnn

1:56:21 But let's say it starts with T-E-H. They don't fly on broomsticks! They tend not to be bewitched Donald Trump, you know I call it a witch hunt and it is a witch hunt. Modern day witches are hard to categorize Are you a good witch or bad witch? Are you a witch? I'm a practicing witch that's how I make my living yes And which kind of witch are you? Uh...I am initiated into Wicca which is the religious side of things Witches tend to side with liberals and you know what they wish President Trump would stop saying about the Mueller investigation? It's a witch hunt. That's all it is. Wait, this is Jeannie Moe who always does these... You like her packages I think they're pretty stupid but you like them. No there are..I like her packages because she's got a sense of humor yeah

1:57:14 They are stupid. They give her stupid packages that CNN would go on and on about Trump's use of the word witch hunt, then throw it to her to have her do a package around it. It is ridiculously stupid! It's a package. I like that witches are liberal, that's great. You wish you were liberals? Liberals! And you know what they wish President Trump would stop saying about the Mueller investigation... It's a witch hunt, that's all it is. The witch hunt as i call it Russian Witch Hunt This is a witch hunt like nobody has ever seen before The author of Witchcraft Activism calls the president use of term

1:57:52 really disgraceful. I mean, thousands of people were executed in Europe on suspicion of witchcraft. Closer to home, the Salem Witch Trial! I saw Bridget Bishop with the devil! 19 supposed witches were hanged There's a lot to be offended by Donald Trump and i think his use of the term witch hunt is very low on that list of priorities for most witches but nevertheless it does demonstrate his ignorance as usual The entire thing has been a witch hunt But if the president stopped saying witch hunt, he'd have to hunt for a new term. Tweeted someone I guess he will have to start referring to it as a wild goose chase but then that might offend geese! The last time witches got mixed up in politics A losing Tea Party candidate for the Senate had to proclaim... I'm not a witch After having said she dabbled in witchcraft in high school

1:58:46 If there's one demographic President Trump hasn't put a spell on, it's witches. They'd rather put a spell on him! I got you my pretty and your little dog too! Genie Moe CNN And it is a witch hunt. I knew ya! I'll get you my pretty and your little dog too! Damn that was the same clip Exactly the same clip cool got it yeah witch hunt nothing is sacred anymore. I like it better when Trump picked on real witches. You know, like in this interview. Elizabeth Warren will be the first she did very badly and proving that she was of Indian heritage that didn't work out too well I think you have more than she does and maybe i do too or nothing so we'll see how she does I wish her well I hope she does well I'd love to run against her She says she's in a fight all the way Mr President Do you really think she believes she can win?

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Elizabeth Warren 2020 Presidential Campaign Launch

Senator Elizabeth Warren has officially entered the 2020 presidential race, beginning her campaign in Iowa. The hosts critique her attempt to appear "relatable" through a Periscope video where she drinks a beer, comparing it unfavorably to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's social media presence.

elizabeth warren· 2020 election· iowa· periscope· beer· alexandria ocasio-cortez

1:58:46 If there's one demographic President Trump hasn't put a spell on, it's witches. They'd rather put a spell on him! I got you my pretty and your little dog too! Genie Moe CNN And it is a witch hunt. I knew ya! I'll get you my pretty and your little dog too! Damn that was the same clip Exactly the same clip cool got it yeah witch hunt nothing is sacred anymore. I like it better when Trump picked on real witches. You know, like in this interview. Elizabeth Warren will be the first she did very badly and proving that she was of Indian heritage that didn't work out too well I think you have more than she does and maybe i do too or nothing so we'll see how she does I wish her well I hope she does well I'd love to run against her She says she's in a fight all the way Mr President Do you really think she believes she can win?

1:59:45 Well that I don't know, you'd have to ask your psychiatrist. Boom shaka laka! Boom shaka laka! Boom shakalaka and boom shakalaka! That is That was a good one. Yeah, he really would like her I wish she would get it because it'd be a great battle cuz she's a They hate each other but here that got the democracy now and Warren apparently is running in yes Yes, the first one out of the gate yeah well so to speak America's middle class is getting hollowed out and opportunity for too many of our young people is shrinking. So I'm in this fight all the way right now, Washington works great for the wealthy and the well connected it's just not working for anyone else

2:00:33 But I am optimistic. I believe in what we can do together, um...I'm gonna build a grassroots campaign." On Tuesday Senator Warren said she plans to visit Iowa this weekend. Iowa is a popular first stop for presidential candidates as it's the first state to vote in the primaries. She's such a phony! Do you see her beer moment that everyone all the kids are talking about? She's trying to do an AOC and she's doing Periscope videos. You know, AOC sits around his periscope in her apartment and makes some depression mac n' cheese and shows everyone how the mac n' cheese made...how to make some mac n' cheese. Elizabeth Warren sits down and she's drinking beer from the bottle

2:01:20 It's just not an attractive look. How does that fit in with Romney? You need some more class in the office, you can't drink beer from a bottle! She didn't drink her beer from the bottle like under periscope and everyone was calling her out. That's phony, you're just trying to look relevant I guess is the term. Just trying to look relevant. Woke. Trying to look woke. Can't say woke man, can't say it. Yes okay I have two things here actually this It's something we should investigate. I think this is where Dave Rubin and Jordan Peterson should put all of their efforts into, and this is the platform you want to be on for donations. We should consider it too John because I'm sure it'll work for a second." And if you're donating to your favorite charity this year Google Assistant can help you do it

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Google Assistant Charitable Donations and Terms of Service

Google has enabled a feature allowing users to make charitable donations via Google Assistant voice commands. The hosts warn against using the service due to Google's restrictive terms of service and historical issues with Google Wallet, advocating instead for direct "Value for Value" support.

google assistant· donations· charity· terms of service· google wallet

2:01:20 It's just not an attractive look. How does that fit in with Romney? You need some more class in the office, you can't drink beer from a bottle! She didn't drink her beer from the bottle like under periscope and everyone was calling her out. That's phony, you're just trying to look relevant I guess is the term. Just trying to look relevant. Woke. Trying to look woke. Can't say woke man, can't say it. Yes okay I have two things here actually this It's something we should investigate. I think this is where Dave Rubin and Jordan Peterson should put all of their efforts into, and this is the platform you want to be on for donations. We should consider it too John because I'm sure it'll work for a second." And if you're donating to your favorite charity this year Google Assistant can help you do it

2:02:12 As long as you've enabled the payments feature, it will let you ask it to quote make a donation and then you choose the amount you want to contribute. You still have to confirm the donation on your phone before the money is routed to the charity See that's what we need! Alexa donate to The No Agenda Show I think they will have the terms of service. There was a reason we never used Google Wallet when it was around and some of these other Google things, and we never did Google this or Google that because their terms of service are the worst! The worst you can't do anything They had a competitor with PayPal for awhile. Oh yes, that's right I do remember this. Yeah it was a competitor of course it crapped out because he wouldn't pretty much unless you were like Chase Manhattan given to JP Morgan there was no way you can make any money go from A to B

2:03:04 Yeah, well we do it differently and I'd like to show you how we do it. We do have a few people to thank for show 1100. This is 1000 more shows than we were going to do. It was 1000 more shows when I said, you've had a good run John. You've had a good run let's just then we can stop while we're ahead. Stop while we're ahead everybody and before you go one step further flash meetup Gilman Brewery Berkeley California tomorrow 5-8

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Binary Donations and De-douching Ceremonies

Producer Ho Ching Hung contributes a binary-coded donation of $192. The hosts also perform "de-douching" ceremonies for listeners and officially name Madison Perlini as "Dame Meowdeson" following her contribution to the show.

ho ching hung· binary code· indiana· knighthood· dame meowdeson

2:03:55 Commander Cody starts the list off here $199 I'm sending a hundred ninety-nine dollars because being named as a producer has no value to me. The show is value enough. Oh okay thank you but feel free to take your credits where creditors do that's it's okay but I... Sir Ho Ching Hung, sir Ho Chi Hung $192. What does he have? He has some... Oh, it's a binary donation! It is a binary donation of one two eight six four six blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahbl

2:04:32 binary and it did is 192 and he's got it here as and he's got some he's got he's got some breakdown that we'll just have to believe figure out will just take his work for a goat scream and I think was just give him that we are goat friendly here people sir crash EMT 156 dollars in 76 cents Happy anniversary, he says. Wait! He says here's 1111 squared with a 3333 throwing in for good measure Hey Patreon let's see you do that! Yeah, Patreon can't do that. I don't even know if Patreons could take random donations. I don't think so Which we rely on to do our segments Yes It's content Larsen Riverhead New Zealand 130 55 And then he becomes

2:05:30 Something today. He has a blue he's got a blue highlight or something So let me see Ian Larson yes, he becomes sir Ian Larson today fabulous the Madison Perlini in Orlando Florida $120 and 88 cents another upgrade of some sort no she know this game yep She's being dame today Michael fatality in West Lafayette Indiana He sent in one 1235, he has a note. Since he went through the trouble of mailing this... We got a lot of cards by the way I want to thank everyone who gave us cards whether there's anything in them or not including one from the UK that was in the smallest envelope I think was ever put through the US mail it is about two inches by 2 inches with a stamp on the corner. I don't know how-I thought it was illegal to send stuff that small

2:06:27 It's my budget for the tinfoil hats for 2019, which I no longer require since being directed to the best podcast from my son Aaron who is a douche bag still. And he needs a de-douching. You've been de-douched! He says his karma generally has been good most because he's attempt to be a tad OTG, not as much as Adam but wandering around the edges of it. Therefore I'd like to share our goat karma with my fellow travelers."

2:07:07 He's Aaron Fatelli is a douchebag. He's got deducing in Indiana nearly as good as oh well, he's in battleground Indiana nearly as good as knob on all right enough I just want to mention about Madison Perlini because when someone's getting a knighthood or Dame would like to read their notes She said been listening to the show since before election time in 2016 haven't looked back You two constantly blow my mind with your deconstruction? I can't believe how the rest of the world can overlook your logic and theories Could I please be damed Dame Meowdeson, cat enthusiast and like Pellegrino and purring cats at the round table. Your wish is my command." Purring cats for eating? Apparently! Paul Arseneo... Arsenio... Arsenow? Arseno maybe?

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International Producer Contributions and Cruise Ship Tech

Donations are acknowledged from producers in Australia, South Carolina, and Missouri. A note from Derek Winky describes his experience going "off the grid" during a cruise by refusing to pay for the onboard internet package, observing the constant smartphone usage of other passengers.

australia· south carolina· cruise ship· internet· off the grid

2:08:04 $111.11 William Durkin 110 33 in Greenville South Carolina the following people are the one hundred and ten dollars celebratory donation people each one a hundred ten dollars from James Story Daniel Sheets, James Fulton Mark Hampton Steve Brown Curtis Mace Dame Karen of the Cimarron Hills, who looks like she's gonna be updated. She's gonna go to Baroness today Colorado Springs, Colorado Dan Reeder David Fugazotto in Gladstone Missouri all right geez look at Dan Reeder a hundred and ten dollars is one hundred and sixty two Dollars and thirteen cents in Australia yeah I know it's getting worse by the minute we get it's time to go there and party

2:08:58 Yeah, party! We can live like kings. Ellie Duker looks like. Doiker by the way is to LE there's a flash meetup today at the for tomorrow Gilman Brewery on Gilman Avenue yes Piedmont he's in Piedmont who's over here in Piedmont Matthew Januszewski by the way it is Sir David Fugazotto Yes Matthew Januszewski 110 Matthew Cole Perricone and in San Antonio. This is his first time donating he'd like a deducing You've been de-douche Dame Carol Ann an East Hatchet Ranch, Colorado Great name for a town 110 rogue black knight and Baron of the Palouse from the Palouse

2:09:54 110. Philip Worth, anonymous 110. Derek Winky... That's it that's our little group of well-wishers for a hundred and ten everyone is less. Derek including Derrick Winky in Clarkston Michigan I'm sure he's a local one. He found himself in Florida what was he doing? Something. Well you says No story here. Yes hmm oh he went off the grid Oh, you want OTG yes You say $15 a day by not signing up for the surf while you sail internet streaming package on a cruise Doesn't wouldn't that come with the cruise now? It's a separate package what do you gotta buy a package?

2:10:37 And but he says, I did observe while in the middle of the ocean the majority of the six and a half thousand passengers with cell phones in hand 24-7 if at the pool bathing suit and cell phone. Sad to observe but much better mentally turning off my tech connection for time Thanks Adam and John for the suggestion It's not just suggestion it's a lifestyle my friend NJNK thanks Derek Sean Ledbetter, 10101. Baron Ladekin in Houston Texas 100. John Robinet a hundred Dominic DeVito in Middletown New York 100 RC Mouse in Vista California he sent a card with mouse the mouse guy on it RC Mouse remote control mouse thank you for so many shows of high quality I look forward to more in 2019

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Heavy Metal Historian and Barrett's Esophagus Recovery

Sir Greg Davies, the heavy metal historian, shares a personal story about a health scare involving Barrett's Esophagus. He credits his girlfriend, Jennifer Weta, for her support during his recovery and for gifting him the donation that secured his knighthood.

greg davies· cancer· barrett's esophagus· heavy metal· jennifer weta

2:11:32 RC Mouse, radio-controlled mouse is what it means I think. Robert Roberts in Medford Oregon 8469 Sir Got Nate in Sebastopol California 6969 Sir Gregory Davies... Yeah i want to read this 6666 This isn't make good He was extremely surprised to hear himself knighted as Sir Greg Davies, the heavy metal historian a couple of shows ago. As it turns out he writes my wonderful girlfriend Jennifer Weta gifted me the donation to get me over-the-line for Christmas to finally sit with fellow producers at The Roundtable and finally sink my teeth into that luscious mutton and mead. Understandable! However on the day I was knighted her name wasn't mentioned in the donation segment. I understand these things happen but i want to ensure she could at least be mentioned on the show for helping me over the line

2:12:18 He has a bigger reason. During 2018 he had a cancer scare in which he damaged his esophagus for contacts, he says my mother died from cancer of the esophagus as did her uncle before her naturally with such family history I jumped into seeing a doctor immediately thankfully some of the good old F-cancer karma you send out to all listeners at times must have been a great help it turned out I was cancer free but had developed a nasty and chronic condition called Barrett's Esophagus Have you heard of this? No. Along the last few months of 2018 I was in a lot of pain, unable to eat, incredibly weak and sick Jennifer stuck by me this whole time and has helped me beyond any kind of call-of-duty! I honestly have absolutely zero idea how I would even be able to go through this ordeal without her help and love she's my rock, the love of my life and want to let you both know how important her donation to me to get knighthood meant

2:13:08 We've been fans of No Agenda for years, listen together all the time. Her donation gave me a huge boost of positivity it meant a lot to me and want you and the listeners to know this Thank you very much, and he's on the ease on the mend He says this is all good And we will roll out an F cancer karma for you and for everyone else who wants a sweet note. Yes a nice note It's important to read that well good Christopher Bennett $60 in six cents small boobs and your sirs I'd like to donate to an individual whose name or title I do not know call him out as nearly normal Jimmy I think it means a... by that, you mean a douchebag call? No no no. He says he will contact you with the keyword below to have the donation applied to his peerage Oh, he'd okay. Whoops! Kurt V, 3678 The last months of this show have been top-notch. I've been meant to donate with Michigan Local One a few weeks back

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Regional Demonics and New Subscription Tiers

The hosts discuss regional names for residents, such as "Michiganders" and "Austenites," while acknowledging donors from Wisconsin and Hawaii. They also mention the launch of a new $11.11 weekly subscription tier to support the show's "Value for Value" model.

michiganders· austenites· wisconsin· subscriptions· value for value

2:14:07 Not that we really care, but Michigan people are called Michiganders. Not Michigonians. Okay We'll never remember that but I've been told this before and Maine has some of the crazy name for them too it's not maniac like that It's Maynards. Maynards? No i don't know just guessing. Maynards. It's also Austinites not Austonian FYI. It's what? Austenite! Yes, yeah not Austonians I knew that but i never use it just don't use it. If we're from California we do what we want yes clearly Sir Tom Dari in DeForest Wisconsin 5510 Sir Brian Baranet of North Connecticut 5510 he has just a simple note that was a card beautiful card got a picture of his little girl on the back they had a baby

2:15:05 Following up in New Haven research. I think we just this everyone just would end it with tards main cards cards, Michigan tards Austin tards To put a little karma in him for the end yes Joseph Halasi and key Lou Kia, oh yeah, yeah, yeah kill the killer. Oh, yeah, kill away. Ah I knew I'd get it Kilauea, Hawaii 5033. In Hawaiian I do know you pronounce every single letter in some way or shape or form but I didn't know that Kilauea is obviously the way to pronounce that. Brian Matthews, these are $50 donors name and location. Brian Matthews James Chapko in Crown Point Indiana Scott E Knight in Las Wages Nevada Amanda Tootle in Chillicote Ohio

2:15:57 This is toward Tyler Stewart's knighthood. Jeremy Cartwright in Rockford, Illinois. Sir Pipelinks of the One Night Stand with a K. He has a birthday for fiancee Palin Cunawat? The Lady of Linz? She's on the list. Yep got her on the list Bradley Ledin and that's it. That's our whole group of well-wishers for show and producers who showed 1100 want to thank each and every one of them are helping make the show a success Yes, and thanking people who came in under $50 either for Anonymity purposes or you're on one of the subscriptions now did we not launch a new subscription amount? Oh

2:16:41 11 something? Yes, eleven a week. A week okay. It's the new announced uh... let me see if anybody came in with that. Eleven eleven. Eleven eleven. Looks like we got some eleven I don't know is that- There were some people the guy where i talked about on the last show complained this weekly thing might want to put more out than than the four, which is what our weekly is. And so I put 1111 well, you got a bunch of 1111 but I can't tell if they're weeklies or not on this spreadsheet. Well we appreciate all of the support we received and it's a way to kick off the new year thank you very much We do this twice a week Thursdays and Sundays The only way keeps going because you tell us how much you value the product by

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Birthday Announcements and Knight Ring Details

The hosts read birthday wishes for various producers and their family members. They provide details on the No Agenda knight rings, which are white gold-plated signet rings sent to high-level donors along with sealing wax and an official certificate.

birthdays· knight ring· white gold· signet ring· peerage

2:17:23 sending us what you thought it was worth. It's a very simple system, it seems to work...it works better than Patreon as far as I'm concerned and we appreciate this from our producers here and also our producers in the first segment associates and executive producers and We have another show on Sunday so please support us and the work at Devorak dot org slash N A By request Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs You've got karma. It is the 3rd of January 2019, we've got a list for you and we have Sir JD saying happy birthday to his sister Frances who celebrated on Christmas Day he says happy birthday to his mom Marion she turned 71 today and his wife

2:18:23 We'll be celebrating on January 15th. Dame Carol Ann says happy birthday to her husband who turns 72 years old and she also says happy birthday to her son Joshua Chase, he turns 40 and finally Sir Pipe Lynx of the One Night Stand says happy birthday to his fiancee Palin Kunawat She will be celebrating on the 6th Happy Birthday from everybody here at The Best Podcast in The Universe! It's your birthday yeah! Come gather round douchebag Producer and slave Is we all thank your brothers and sisters who gave us some of them nights, some of them days. For the titles are a-changin'. Title changes today for Dame Karen of Cimarron Hills she becomes Baroness of the Blue and... of the Blue Moon sorry, Baroness of the Blue Moon and Sir Patrick Coble becomes The Earl of Tennessee

2:19:23 And we congratulate both of them and... John, Bob Dylan called and he'd like you to stop whatever you're doing. He says not good. Stop it. Stop doing that. We got some nice- Look! Get your blade out immediately! Here it comes. Good there it is Up on the podium, Marcus Mueller, Ian Larson and Madison Perlini. You three are about to join the round table of the NOAH Agenda Knights and Dames And I'm very proud to pronounce the KD with the following title Sir Marcus of the Hinterland Inn

2:20:01 of the hinterland sorry uh sir ian larson and dame meowdeson cat enthusiasts for you we've got hookers and blow rent boys in chardonnay pellegrino and purring cats cookies and vodka zucchini and meatloaf trophies entire smoke harlots and hell doll ginger ale and gerbils gaseous and sake ruben s woman and rose breast milk and pablum we've got bong hits and bourbon and There it is, the luscious mutton and mead for the three of you. Congratulations! Thank you for your support in the amount of $1,000 or more. It's a big deal to us we really appreciate it and for this if you go to noagendanation.com slash rings and give Eric the shill your girth measurements will send out a nice package the No Agenda night ring silver ring signet ring

2:20:45 With the sealing wax to go along with it and your official certificate Please tweet it out so we know that you received it and can make everybody then make you the envy of the block I believe is white gold plated Is it white gold plated? Yeah, I think so not silver. I thought well hmm white gold its white gold plate Yeah, that way if it's silver it would make a black thing on your hand. Contains no tungsten. So it doesn't stain? Contains no tungsten... It's all good! Hey Alex Jones is coming unglued man

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Alex Jones De-platforming and Public Rants

A clip of Alex Jones shouting about de-platforming and vaccines is played. The hosts suggest that Jones is struggling to accept his removal from the mainstream media milieu and that his increasingly erratic behavior is a reaction to his diminishing cultural relevance.

alex jones· infowars· de-platforming· vaccines· mainstream media

2:20:45 With the sealing wax to go along with it and your official certificate Please tweet it out so we know that you received it and can make everybody then make you the envy of the block I believe is white gold plated Is it white gold plated? Yeah, I think so not silver. I thought well hmm white gold its white gold plate Yeah, that way if it's silver it would make a black thing on your hand. Contains no tungsten. So it doesn't stain? Contains no tungsten... It's all good! Hey Alex Jones is coming unglued man

2:21:23 He's coming unglued. What a thing to start off the segment with! I gotta play this for you, him coming unglued...I think the deplatforming unglued him. God damn them to hell! You bastards, you blew it all up! God damn you! He's not taking Lord's name in vain? He's saying god damn them! God damn them! God damn them! God fucking damn them to hell! You seem upset. I'm freaking pissed man You know they're giving kids vaccines everywhere that eat their frickin' cerebral cortex? Yeah. No, I'm not really familiar with vaccines. They should complain about the children being f'd with! God... Not me showing you! You think I like seeing this crap?! You think it doesn't piss me off?! Let me tell ya', I'm ready to kill people. I'm sick of this sh- Uh, uh, not literally The point is, I'm getting sick of this crap This is why you don't do meth kids

2:22:24 And he's the Adam is just kidding. Yeah, of course I'm kidding He's not kidding about not doing math know but it with the implication that yeah this guy doesn't need meth Oh man It's just this He's high on life man. No, I think it yes. He's high on male vitality or whatever that stuff you sells Trump I think again, I don't think just sitting there cursing like that is really a way to get his audience back and I don't think he lost his audience at all. I think he's doing just fine Maybe He did, though...He was around way before everything else Okay, okay you're right. He probably has not lost his audiences the casual audience the ones that only see him occasionally I would include myself in that Well no here's what happened to him See? The difference is You and I we accept our position in the media space which is way down below on the ladder

2:23:21 Yeah, you know underneath some incurable diseases. That's kind of where we are and we podcast yeah We were podcasters we accept it he can't accept it that He's no longer in the In the milieu that people is no longer being talked about That's I think that's his problem. He thrives on people talking about him good or bad doesn't matter and now it's just vapid You know, there's just no mention of him even with deep platforming he's no longer even mentioned It's just, you know removed from the mainstream. When they started talking about the biggies that were de-platform he is showing up less and less Yeah yeah it's just moving down and I think that bothers him He has to accept it but that's where he came from! He was always the anti guy You know we don't need them screwing the mainstream And ya'know I think its affecting him anyway...I've not heard a rant like that from him in awhile What was he ranting about? Who knows

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Donald Trump on Stock Market Glitches

President Trump referred to recent stock market volatility as a "glitch." The hosts interpret this as an acknowledgment of algorithmic trading and high-frequency swings that are not necessarily tied to economic fundamentals but rather to automated market triggers.

donald trump· stock market· algorithms· s&p 500· economic glitch

2:24:22 It's just angry. I think the president gave us a little clue about stock market activity and he is the stock whisperer these days, you know? He sits there... Yeah, well listen to this! And our strong economy makes it even more difficult because people come up, because our country is doing better by far than any other country in the world from an economic standpoint. We're the talk of the world and we had a little glitch in the stock market last month but... Now he says that normally I freak out over the use of the term glitch but that's typically when it's in a technology report

2:25:10 Oh, well the airline ticketing broke because of the glitch. Couldn't print the newspaper because of the glitch." Trump you know he's simple and you got to listen to what he's saying I think he's saying here that there was actually not it not that something broke but that the stock market ran rampant as we discussed with the algorithmic amplification and he considers that to be a glitch. I accept that so what you're saying is he's hinting to buy I'm not drawing that conclusion, I'm hinting that he understands somehow that these wild swings are

2:25:50 not really based on anything, then some piece of news and all the algos jump on it. You may look at it you'll see five different big company stocks all locked into like the S&P or SPY, the spy, spider? And it goes up and then if you can put three charts next to each other they're just locked in is just complete. Yeah! So if the algos go nuts than everyone goes nuts and it's just goes on and on... It's very dangerous Did I mention that there is a meetup on Friday? 5 to 8 at the Gilman Brewery in Berkeley. And you'll be there along with Mimi and Theodorable! Come see everybody, it's gonna be fantastic. Well, I have a moment here where I could do my whatever happened too... Oh, you know what? You can do your whatever happened too and i will give

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Historical Obesity and Global Warming Narrative

A 2009 study from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine claimed that obesity contributes to global warming because heavier people consume more food and use more fuel for transportation. The hosts note that this specific narrative was largely dropped by the media once it began to alienate the target audience for climate activism.

obesity· global warming· london school of hygiene· 2009· environment

2:26:46 I think we have a jingle for you. Let's see Tom Stark weather Yeah, wow All right, there's your whatever happened to jingle enjoy it yeah great that's real uplifting Okay from 2009 This was a meme. They tried to get going, to get people to save the planet Global warming this is almost 10 years ago global warming was caused by fat people Kit Do on why researchers say obesity is bad for the environment

2:27:27 Obesity and global warming, both heavy topics now linked by a new study from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. It says people who weigh more tend to drive more and eat more. And all that food? It's shipped on average 1500 miles from where it's grown to your plate. Fat people researchers contend are killing the planet more so than those who are thin Yeah, let's play it again. Whatever happened to that? We were on a good tip with that!

2:28:04 Yeah, it was in 2009 and they just dropped like a hot potato when they looked at the audience of people bitching and moaning about climate change. They said oh my god these people are all overweight Well this brings me to a fabulous first show of Chip Todd's what's his name? Chuck Todd, Chuck Todd, Chuck Todd. Meet the press whatever it is meet the press this Sunday the climate crisis brace yourselves for dangerous heat The drought we're in is disastrous everyone ought to be worried about it rainfall amounts really are staggering about everything we have was destroyed water rushing into the streets

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Chuck Todd Meet the Press Climate Special

Chuck Todd hosted a special edition of *Meet the Press* dedicated entirely to climate change. Todd explicitly stated that the show would not include "climate deniers" or debate the existence of human-caused global warming, asserting that the science is settled and no opposing views would be given airtime.

chuck todd· nbc· meet the press· climate change· science

2:28:04 Yeah, it was in 2009 and they just dropped like a hot potato when they looked at the audience of people bitching and moaning about climate change. They said oh my god these people are all overweight Well this brings me to a fabulous first show of Chip Todd's what's his name? Chuck Todd, Chuck Todd, Chuck Todd. Meet the press whatever it is meet the press this Sunday the climate crisis brace yourselves for dangerous heat The drought we're in is disastrous everyone ought to be worried about it rainfall amounts really are staggering about everything we have was destroyed water rushing into the streets

2:28:42 right now. The strongest winds annual average temperatures in the U.S could increase anywhere from 2 to 11 degrees, two fast moving firestorms within miles of each other. The Garden of Eden just turned into Gates of Hell. The evidence is everywhere. You can answer yourself! The science is settled It's ridiculous to say it wouldn't be better if the administration in Washington didn't deny science, but the politics is not Climate change is real and it is an urgent problem that we need need to bear down on it. This morning we'll report on the challenge of climate change, the science, the damage to our environment, the cost and the politics. Welcome to Sunday and this special edition of Meet The Press

2:29:32 From NBC News, the longest running show in television history. This is a special edition of Meet The Press with Chuck Todd. Now wait for it! Hello Chuck! Good Sunday morning and happy New Year's weekend to everyone this morning we're going to do something that we don't often get to do Dive in on one topic. It's obviously extraordinarily difficult to do this as the end of this year has proven in the era of Trump, but we're going to take an in-depth look regardless of that at a literally earth changing subject that doesn't get talked about this thoroughly on television news at least climate change But just as important as what we are going to do this hour is what were not going to do. We're not gonna debate climate change, the existence of it The earth is getting hotter and human activity is a major cause period Were not going to give time to climate deniers The science has settled even if political opinion has not

2:30:32 Sure, we're gonna hold it do a whole hour and we're not gonna let anyone with an opposing view talk Because it's settled. It's done The science is in that how science works? It does on NBC This baffles me. It doesn't baffle me at all They'll push anything anything they can anything I have so I'm listening around going around looking for some of the little offbeat hmm And so I ran into a podcast. That's where you can find the offbeat stuff for sure! This podcast is done by David Axelrod Oh goody, former chief of staff for Obama Now Axelrod is also campaign manager Yes, yes Par excellence He is...I don't know who does this podcast but it took me a good 15 minutes to equalize

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Jeff Zucker on OJ Simpson and the 1992 Election

CNN President Jeff Zucker discussed his career on David Axelrod's podcast, detailing how he used the OJ Simpson trial to boost *The Today Show* ratings. Zucker also explained how giving Bill Clinton and Ross Perot extended airtime during the 1992 election helped Clinton win by splitting the Republican vote.

jeff zucker· david axelrod· today show· oj simpson· bill clinton· ross perot

2:30:32 Sure, we're gonna hold it do a whole hour and we're not gonna let anyone with an opposing view talk Because it's settled. It's done The science is in that how science works? It does on NBC This baffles me. It doesn't baffle me at all They'll push anything anything they can anything I have so I'm listening around going around looking for some of the little offbeat hmm And so I ran into a podcast. That's where you can find the offbeat stuff for sure! This podcast is done by David Axelrod Oh goody, former chief of staff for Obama Now Axelrod is also campaign manager Yes, yes Par excellence He is...I don't know who does this podcast but it took me a good 15 minutes to equalize

2:31:36 One guy shouting in another. Why did you do that? Why did why did you ruin the original we could have so much fun listening to their production Because I'm not taking this chance and you grousing about okay, it was just like completely out of control Normalized it enough though is listenable Axelrod with all people Jeff Zucker who Ooh, from CNN? Yeah. Former NBC. Zuffer had a intriguing career and I didn't realize he's had cancer and heart operation and he had Bells Palsy and he's had everything and is still live. He's only a short guy 6'5", 5'6". And Dave talks about it in this podcast. This is a very good podcast people should look it up just look up Axelrod Zucker Podcast

2:32:27 I have two clips which indicate to me that either Zucker doesn't know what he's talking about or he's naive, or I don't know what. But they're very interesting because he was very successful as an executive at NBC before it took over the place in other words a low-level guy who is much better than he was when he's running things He's the one who put Leno on every night at 10. Yeah, only late nights great ruining network good work But let's listen to talk about him on, he did fix the Today Show by being one of the execs there. And I wanna play two clips from him and this one is the Two Events clip. Now there were two events that also really helped us change the dynamic at The Today Show. The OJ Simpson trial in 1995. I think we recognized early on that this was gonna be a real cultural touch point

2:33:22 And we covered it intensely and did... you know, went all in on coverage of this. Which is a theme that I would later reprise at CNN when we would go all in on the big story but the first time we ever did this was-was on the OJ Simpson trial and Charlie Gibson was the anchor of GMA and he took shots at us in-in the newspapers by saying, I can't believe how much uh... coverage about OJ Simpson they're doing and my response was well it's interesting its good and the audience wants it And then-and then the other thing that happened was the 96th election When he was at NBC and promoted the OJ Simpson trial, and NBC picked up on it the whole thing. That dribbled up to The Tonight Show with Jay Leno who was trailing David Letterman during this era

2:34:14 Leno went all in on the Simpson trial by having the dancing Edo's. Oh, yeah Yeah a whole bunch of gimmicks and crazy stuff about the thing Letterman said that he refuses to even discuss it in his monologue because it's too you know Creepy so he just stayed away from it completely Leno went all-in the way Zucker did and Leno overtook Letterman and Letterman never caught him again after that oh okay, and And my response was, well it's interesting. It's good and the audience wants it and then the next thing that happened was the 96 election

2:34:51 I'm sorry, when I was supervising the 92 election... The first one was the 92 election when i took over. I'm sorry not 96, 92 elections and that was an incredibly exciting election because there were three candidates right? Ross Perot is independent. Right! And we actually had a tremendous in with Ross Perot and so we recognized his popularity very early on and we had Ross Perot on all the time before anybody else did. And the other thing is then we would start having Bill Clinton on for these hour-long interviews, when the history of interviews with candidates was you'd have him on for five minutes, okay? We had him on for an hour and then he was uniquely qualified to do an hour. He was, but we took advantage of that. Yeah yeah.

2:35:41 Bill Clinton on for two hours. So the entire Today Show was two hours, we'd have Ross Perot on for an hour or two hours and so it was like nobody could believe that this is what The Today Show was doing but they were talking about us We were getting notices, we were relevant in a way we hadn't been And so that is how we changed up The Today Show Hmm. Interesting, so he's the one that pushed the Clinton thing sure I didn't had Ross Perot as the spoiler to take votes away from George HW would make Clinton got elected in 92. I think a lot of it had to do with this guy Zucker

2:36:21 giving these guys this much free airtime, two hours the whole show free to Clinton. He didn't pay for it? Yes but the brilliance of it is by splitting the Republican vote with Ross Perot you know he wins in both ways. He wins by helping Clinton get elected and he looks like he's unbiased because he has two opposing candidates on And I'm sure he invited George HW Bush who wouldn't do an hour! He may be 5'6", but he was smart Now, he still doesn't realize the power of television when he gives us this anecdote because he denies that all the excessive coverage of Trump had nothing to do with his election. He's got some rational ideas, some rational rationalities to it. Okay! And so let's play the other clip and when he came down the escalator and did his thing what was your reaction? So my reaction was

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Jeff Zucker on Donald Trump and CNN Coverage

Jeff Zucker defended CNN's extensive coverage of Donald Trump during the 2016 primaries, citing Trump's existing popularity from *The Apprentice*. Zucker rejected the idea that news organizations should only provide "spinach" (important news), arguing instead that they must provide what the audience is interested in to remain relevant.

jeff zucker· donald trump· cnn· the apprentice· 2016 election· ratings

2:37:20 You know, hold on a second. Stop stop I want to do a little background. Zucker was the guy who helped create the show The Apprentice starring Donald Trump Oh that's good but i didn't know that and he was big he was friends with trump and He always saw Trump as a natural, charismatic guy who always people just liked him and for no good reason often. And he used that leverage that nobody else wanted to show The Apprentice but he knew it was going to be a hit because this guy Trump was the natural at promoting and self-promoting and getting publicity they didn't have to pay for and stuff like

2:38:02 So he was a kind of a Trump fan from that perspective. Start this clip over, please And when he came down the escalator and did his thing What was your reaction? so my reaction was You know the contents of that speech aside yeah, any announce was that look I think that I Recognized his popular appeal. I think that I understood From The Apprentice and watching him in all of that That there was a there was something about Trump and his character that was popular, and I thought would work. And I do think that's one of the reasons that I had CNN pay attention right away to Donald Trump because at a time if you go back the first couple months

2:38:57 most national news media organizations did not take it very seriously cnn did right away and we turned out to be right uh... was somewhat argue that it was a that that's the chicken an egg thing that part of what cnn did was help yet but i i disagree with that i'll tell you why you know he announces comes down the escalator nounces in three weeks later he's number one in the polls in the republican party and he holds on to that until he becomes a Republican nominee. So, he was the favorite among that entire field three weeks in so I don't think CNN made him number one in three weeks okay? I think that he had that appeal and we were covering the frontrunner. We would cover the frontrunner disproportionately

2:39:45 uh... in in any race so i i don't know how to tell you that something earlier discussion here that struck me and it leads to a question about this and television generally said of the audience wants it by you and that is obviously something that's always in your head donald trump understands that if you like yourself on fire that's good tv solo do understand that as well and you needed did they were that was good for cnn was it not well look i'm not going to apologize i think what a lot of people want is for you know people to say

2:40:20 that you should apologize for giving the audience what they're interested in. This goes back to the plane and we took a lot of heat for the poop cruise at one time. Listen, I think what we have always done whether it was at The Today Show or CNN is we've never been above what the audience is interested in and I think this idea that you know you should only feed the audience spinach and you should tell them what's important. I reject that." Wow! First of all, he is full of crap but so are you a news organization or an entertainment unit? Of Time Warner seems like just pure entertainment He is only talking about what the audience wants not what his news...I didn't hear the word news once No Sounds like there was collusion to CNN helped Trump get elected it kind of saying

2:41:18 Well, he's kind of trying not to say yeah. He's choosing his words very carefully Very very carefully hmm I predict for this year John will probably be seeing a lot more of us clipping stuff from podcasts I Really do I really do because the real better material gets some in-depth People that when you're doing a podcast is different than being on the oh, yeah Camera in your face and all these things. Yep media Deconstruction will be more podcasts in 2019 I'm feeling it then secretly little proud of that actually Yes

CHAPTER 51 / 51 Discussion

Show Outro and Final Credits

The hosts conclude episode 1100 with a final reminder of the Berkeley meetup and their Sunday broadcast schedule. They play a closing montage featuring music and clips of Alex Jones, signing off from Austin and Silicon Valley.

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2:42:05 Tomorrow at the Gilman Brewing Company in Berkeley, Friday. It's 5 to 8, Gilman Brewing is on Buchetti's very famous place And with that, we've come to the end of today's program. Of course remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA for our show on Sunday coming to you from downtown Austin Texas capital the drone star state FEMA region number six in the governmental maps in the five by nine Cluedio in the common law condo In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley which is where the Gilman brewery is I'm out here watching the trains. In the meantime, I am John C. DeVore. We return on Sunday with news of The Meetup, The Flash News! Until then... Adios mofos and such

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2:43:53 Well, congratulations for getting this far. Yes! You too. My good sir. Thanks. Not bad at all I think we've had a good run We've had a good run John We should just quit while were ahead What would i be doing if i actually quit? No sponsors to say no And take a If a show could work A thousand nights and Just as many They give away And hope that people will wave here Funds are running by Big defense Saturday

2:45:14 Two dimensions at one time I'd straddle with you Dimension B, dimension A We spark your damn shit stuff Producing crap and telling a lie I'd spend the end with you And when our show was through, and I was controlling all the time They both thought that we'd choose to be alone. He's getting inspired once in a while is very fun. And when Nick is firing at all soldiers it's really pretty hard to beat. We're kind of grooming him to take over the show aren't we? In your imagine

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