Climate Grief

00:00 Oh, Al Gore's the worst. He's a demon! Rubbing your feet with CBD and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in downtown Austin, Tejas. In The Cluedio! In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where people have mistakenly put their garbage out for collection even though it won't be collected. I'm John C DeVore. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! IN THE MORNING! I think we should stop the show right now you should go out knocking everyone's door and inform them of this issue

00:41 What happened was the waste management operation, instead of giving a phone call with an automated message about the change in delivery they sent out an email. I read the email it says it'll be picked up tomorrow but no. Hey, you got some weird sound in the background. You've got there Yes, that's the disconnected phone during his first day just connected a little late Do you want to hang it up? Was it just sitting there going dude? No if I hang it up someone will call and asking me if they're there, you know If I want to change my credit card relationships Okay should stop. I don't know why It's actually louder than severed The only guy I know who still has a phone that you can take off the hook so that people won't call you Yeah

01:25 We have this called a landline. I know it's so weird for when you even understand that these exist do not disturb mode But no, no, no, this is rotary or is it push touch tone? Yeah, right. I don't even know if Rotary works anymore Oh, that's a good question actually but it does mmm. I think in some areas It doesn't huh hadn't even considered that It's been deprecated well or whatever We're the we're the only two starting up again for I don't know. Let me go move. We never have this problem Regardless welcome to The No Agenda Show This is the best podcast in the universe and unlike everywhere else in media no retrospectives here, no best funny news stories of the year here

02:19 No counting down to the new year here. No, just media deconstruction for whatever that was out there It seems like everybody's on vacation We we as two podcasters we weather the storm to bring you something I actually have a couple of retrospective clips Wait before you go no way before you go anywhere and I'm gonna lecture you a little more it was Interesting surprising to see you on twit last Sunday. Yeah, a lot of people notice this How was it I had three goals get my Twitter followers up? Okay plug the hell out of the no agenda show yes what you did I did Very good yep and a pathway to promoting some upcoming books

03:11 Wow, okay Yeah, I watched most of the show. I do have two comments if you're interested just to two Comments from an executive one executive producer to another yeah what? One that in general I think that It is time for people on podcasts who deal with technology to keep referring to the audience as normal people, regular people who quote dot-dot-dot won't understand won't get won't care. Did I do that? No you did not! I'm not saying you are saying in general...I'm so tired of hearing regular people they want digi-divs. Yeah it was a very common theme on that show okay next your hair

04:02 What about it? Well, because of the lighting. It's you know it looks normal things out a little bit as you get older The lighting is so harsh there to it that it I mean it kind of half the time I look bald more like You know Blake you're in chemo Downlighting is extreme yes ridiculous So there is makeup for this which I was going to recommend Yeah, they don't use makeup on the show. You should have your own little kit bro if you're gonna do that anymore You need to look good yeah Nothing personal just a general television observation percent of the people that listen to twit doing on audio So I'm not too concerned all right no but I understand I agree with you on both these points Okay Then I have one household question was that you in the newsletter?

04:54 Where? So you sent out a newsletter, very good rundown about Mattis leaving. Which is why people should subscribe to this product it's fantastic it's a bonus just like the show notes there are all kinds of things you get outside of the No Agenda Show podcast itself You had funny computer ads many of which are just lovely to look at Oh no! There was none with me in there Oh because the guy with two chicks Yeah that didn't look like me A little bit could have been No Okay All right, that was a disc. That was too funny. It's like these two women gonna bite him just Well just consider times man the things that you could get away with back in the day yeah versus now anyone didn't get the newsletter missed out on the Kind of a rundown of just part one I think have about three of these I can do of all these old computer ads from the 70s is very interesting They're great a lot of celebrities Yeah

05:51 Dom DeLuise was in there, Bill Cosby. What I like is you see the Apple everyone's advertising about their 10 megabyte drive, their 4800 baud modem and Apple Back then, alright it was like oh you will be able to solve your business problems. You will be able to do this and nothing about what was really inside the box which is quite interesting It was fun Yeah they were selling benefits not features yeah And markedly different from the rest They actually had a real advertising agency that knew that rule Right Was that Leo Burnett back then? I think it was Shai Day Those guys are good

06:33 Anyway, so already set us all up that there's no news because no one's working. So we have There is actually just you know not being discussed on the news this there's events happening But there was some stuff to discuss on the news mostly how You know here Trump goes to Iraq I think I have one clip of it Yeah, Trump goes to Iraq and under whole new stories about how he went after the date that Bush went or after the day Obama went three, he went overseas three months after he became president. What is it? What kind of a comparison is this? He's late! I tell you, he's late. He didn't go until we shamed him. When did Reagan go first overseas to the war zones... Oh wait a minute, we didn't have a bunch of war zones then so now they've normalized war zones Yes yes of course Unbelievable

07:30 You have a clip you said do I? I don't know. You said you might have a clip on I'm looking, and I don't see one Oh probably don't have one that this you wanna well let you want to talk about matters just for a second yes sure I thought your rundown was quite good that you did the put in the newsletter now but I had a call with Pachanik man you know he's all about the military intelligence and He had a couple of interesting things to say. I'm gonna pick up my notes here, you gotta write down this stuff when Pchenik calls. Okay so he says alright well it's very sad two generals are out Kelly and Mattis because you know we really counted on them. Kelly hung in as long as he could because he just could not handle what Pchenik calls Woody Woodpecker?

08:19 which is how he categorizes Trump. Okay, and he gave me this concept I don't know if it's a psychological or mental concept of idealization and realization as a personality well i guess you should say trait and what he means by that and I recognized this immediately when he said it is trump does the following When he meets somebody who we, you know obviously wants or even if he doesn't this... Oh! I'll give an example. Oh Dvorak oh man you're the best though i can't believe it's so great to have you here i love what you've done with your computing books and i love what you do with your columns ah this is look at this guy Is he that best ever?

09:00 But then a couple down the road, two weeks when you do something he doesn't like it's exactly the opposite. Oh why'd I even hire that guy? What an idiot! Why did... It sounds like a classic Silicon Valley CEO Well it's interesting because I said it sounds like every New York Jew I've worked with. Well that too And which he went- He's a Jew and he said yeah That's exactly it. It's New York attitude but it's he calls it the idealization and realization personality trait Yeah, so yeah that makes nothing but sense. I like it But it is difficult he believes that the new guy the chief of staff what's his name?

09:41 Shanahan? No, no. That's the Department of Defense. Oh, the Chief of Staff guys name is unmemorable Yeah that guy Pchenik says he will not last through 2020 It's impossible He says no one can deal with that Now the new guy Shanahan...He likes him a lot for number reasons He says, this guy... well actually he said Mattis also hung in as long as he could. And then he just gave up and was just like... and he didn't have to really do it you know we had a couple more months left but yeah. Well according to some reports which I put in the rundown that I did Pompeo told Mattis that Trump was going to fire him

10:27 And that's when Mattis wrote the note and quit. Right, and nobody... So the media picks it up as the media likes to twist it in their way which is oh Trump pulled out of Syria! Of course that's important to us the media because we're all warmongers who think we should be in Syria of all places with our troops who cares about I mean as long doesn't hurt me right so Trump pulls out of Syria thus Mattis quit in disgust yeah well that of course is the story And it looks good, you can read it that way. And it may be exactly that but Pachanik is very happy with Shanahan coming in and he believes Trump understands this He is MIT Boeing cyber guy

11:11 He understands a lot more than an old dog like Mattis who understands kinetic warfare for structures going out blowing shit up tanks troops Etc. Yeah, that is all shifting and Shanahan will shift this Big responsibility and maybe focus I'd be interested on the geospatial intelligence agency because it's all about I quote Cyber satellites and missiles. That's what warfare is, cyber satellites and missiles Everything else is pretty much unimportant And of course the Russia supersonic missile comes into play here. The hypersonic since we...the US appears to be not able to deter that so it's all kind of like Demo where as far as I can tell right now. I do have a report you can play Okay Whatcha got? Hypersonic

12:03 Hypersonic supersonic president Vladimir Putin testing a new intercontinental missile and President Donald Trump's metal from a Moscow command center couldn't watch the hypersonic missile leave its launch tube and according to the Russians strike at target 3,700 miles away declaring it invulnerable to intercept Russia says it can be armed with a nuclear weapon and travel up to 20 times the speed of sound. Without confirming the results of today's test, The Pentagon has acknowledged that America is vulnerable We don't have any defense that could deny the employment of such a weapon against us Adding urgency to The Pentagon's own plan to develop an American version. The hypersonics is a game-changing technology

12:49 Game-changer! And that's why it is so important for us to embrace. How far are we from actually fielding that technology ourselves? So I think we'll put a hypersonic system in the field before 2023 Russia first touted their hypersonic missile and marched with an animation showing warheads flying towards Florida Both offensively, and defensively the United States military is working very hard on hypersonics We are in an arms race. But for Putin, his new missile is a perfect New Year's gift for the country. Hans Nichols NBC News The Pentagon Here's the thing about all that first of all after supersonic when I have hypersonic you know that whatever Trump comes up with it'll be warp speed but guarantee you warp speed is how fast we fly Space Force

13:38 The thing about these missiles is if you can control the cyber side of it, if you can get into systems then you don't need to be able to shoot the thing out of the sky because its going so fast. So this is really moving towards a whole new battlefield. I think the whole thing is bogus first of all hypersonic is nothing new and ill give you the story. I first heard of and I think they experimented with a hypersonic missile in the air force in the 80s. And the reason I say that is because when I wrote the book Hypergrowth with Adam Osborne,

14:15 That's where I got the term from. I used hypergrowth, was it? Well, I coined it based on a hypersonic missile test in the 80s and I said that's a great name for something super fast and so I took the term. So this is something there's something basically bogus about this whole thing. It looks like some sort of excuse to spend more money. It wouldn't surprise me I think we've discussed this before, if Putin and Trump are just talking to each other. Alright man do that demo that you have of the hypersonic thing so we can both start building some more and get some more money out our government coffers?

15:00 It would make nothing but sense. And the other thing is when they showed that hypersonic launch, if you looked at it... They actually put the camera on the missile. Yeah I have seen missile launches from our silos You can't get- That missile is out of range of the camera immediately! It's gotta be yeah Goes like a rocket! But so there's something screwy about this and it sounds to me like I hate to keep saying scam, but there's a scam here. No, we're way behind. How do we wait a minute stop here? We got the seven six seven hundred billion dollar budget How are we two or three years behind the Russians how does that happen don't look at the audit please whatever you do There's nothing now going back to Shanahan He is an MBA and he might and he did work for Boeing And it was part of the 787 as some of these other major projects yeah, he might be able to do the audit

15:58 He's the kind of guy that would be able to do it or at least clean up the books I mean, I don't think anything the Pentagon cannot get through an audit at all So maybe just clean it up and kind of bring in some accountability speaking of which I was reading one of those government IT blogs that I like to like to scan and the there's a procurement system That is out for tender Oh, yeah. I get one of these things too. The list there is a mile long of stuff! Well the General Service... No this is a little different. The General Services Administration is in the process of creating an acquisition platform as mandated by Congress from the 2018 National Defense Authorization Act

16:47 So this stuff is, you know it's done on PDFs. It's done on Word docs whatever the hell it was SharePoint I don't know what they're using but there was this mandate in the NDAA for an e-commerce acquisition Guess who has been doing all the work on this E-Commerce acquisition platform? You tell me Amazon Oh yeah, Amazon's got their fingers in everything. No wonder they're there in Virginia! This is why now it starts to become clear what's going on. Amazon IS the government with the CIA cloud services... Now with all acquisitions... The procurement platform

17:29 Yeah, which would be just a rewrite of the Amazon code that this shoppers use. They just take them... Just white label! There you go plug in your products seems pretty good they already advised on the portal get me out just on the RFP they advise when it's a shoe-in for these guys well if you advise in the RFP yeah you're advising yourself you'd pointed finger at you that's how our guts our process works that's yes it's the beauty of government contracts I did want to if he's becoming a look more like an evil bond character. Yeah just on the pullouts the pull outs of Afghanistan and Syria, I do have a bit of a retrospective if you just want to listen to the news from 2011 The world is exactly flip-flopped

18:20 Please hear how, as we know now, Trump's pulling out of Syria. Afghanistan, oh screwing our partners! It's ISIS it's gonna be horrible! More war need more war need more stuff more missiles hypersonic It was exactly the opposite with the two parties in 2011. The US president has been accused of ignoring the advice of his top military commanders on troop withdrawals from Afghanistan Barack Obama announced that 33,000 troops will be home by September next year Military chiefs say that plan is riskier and more aggressive than the one they recommended Republicans believe Barack Obama's Afghanistan decision has more to do with politics than military thinking

19:02 Were there any of the Joint Chiefs or any of the commanders on the ground that recommended this particular action that the president is taking? I'm not going to talk about individual recommendations. The chairman of the Joint Chiefs did acknowledge that withdrawing 10,000 US troops this year wasn't his choice And it was more aggressive and it has more risk than you know...I was originally prepared uh... to that i've been i recommend it course and afghanistan commander general david betrayers told the senate hearing wasn't his either the ultimate decision was any uh... more aggressive formulation if you will in terms of the timeline uh... then

19:49 uh... what we had recommended the u.s. military leaders say it's their job to salute and execute the president's order senior republicans are worried that coalition allies won't hang around france and germany plan to follow the us lead i predict you now our allies will accelerate their reductions in presence in afghanistan for the most part our allies, the australians others are saying were in it or committed The president was at Fort Drum thanking Afghanistan veterans. Our job is not finished many Democrats wanted Barack Obama to go much further and are still hoping the drawdown will only accelerate my oh my oh my wait a minute this doesn't make any sense the Democrats wanted Obama to draw down even faster I guess so they want us to put people back

20:43 in? That's crazy. It is making no sense to me, these Democrats." And then in 2014 the President Obama at the time came out to Rose Garden bringing America's longest war to an end. President Obama called reporters to the White House Rose Garden, to lay out his plan for pulling out the 32 thousand US troops now left in Afghanistan. America's combat mission will be over by the end of this year starting next year... I just noticed in the first report they talk about 33 thousand magic number we're always looking forward in reports And then in this one, we've lost a thousand. Now left in Afghanistan... Oh hold on where was it? It was 32,000 instead of 33 I don't know if that has any significance but you know To lay out his plan for pulling out the 32,000 US troops now left in Afghanistan America's combat mission will be over by the end of this year Starting next year, Afghan's will be fully responsible for securing their country

21:44 American personnel will be in an advisory role. We will no longer patrol Afghan cities or towns, mountains or valleys that is a task for the Afghan people." Afghan forces have been in the lead against insurgents since last year and the 9800 US troops will stay to continue training them and support counter-terrorism operations. And of course that pullout also didn't happen So that's what it was when Obama was president and everyone was on board. And I think we were also like, yeah good get him out draw down stupid stop! We're staunch anti-war last time I checked. Especially these bogus wars Yeah for the poppies For the poppies mostly But it feels a bit like there may be

22:41 Well, we'll get to that in a moment. There's war starting everywhere I'm not quite sure why this was thrown out there and why the script has been replicated but it has People can be seen lighting things afire This is taking place all throughout this week There have been numerous clashes and numerous people who have been arrested and they are revolting against the poverty in the country. And this all started after a journalist said that he was going to light himself on fire, he posted a video that I'll bring up here where he talked about how he had been trying to find a good job for the last eight years without any luck. This is in Tunisia where

23:21 the Arab Spring started. In this video, you can actually see him holding a bottle of gasoline he says he's going to light himself on fire and he's calling on the unemployed to take to the streets to revolt we later see in another video that he is lit on fire and ended up dying it's unclear whether heat let that match himself or someone else did but what we have seen are these mass protests in Tunisia as a result and some people say that this is actually reminiscent of what we saw in 2010. Remember this man? The Tunisian street vendor who set himself on fire to protest against police harassment, and that led to revolts not only in his country but of course all throughout the Middle East well...in the eight years since that happened- In the eight year since the Arab Spring began

24:08 This journalist says that nothing has changed in his country and, in his words, that everything is lies. And that's why he has called his fellow Tunisians to take to the streets to revolt against the economic conditions of his country." Now this was a report from AFP, French international outfit Right. And they have lots of, what do you call it? Interests in the region. Yes there's a French...it was a French outpost actually. Yeah exactly but they have interests in the region as well and so now we have an out-of-work journalist who hasn't been able to get work for what he say eight years

24:49 what he says. Yeah, we don't know who he is, we don't know who he worked for, we don't know if someone lit the match or if he did it I don't even know if it's him in the video but someone's trying to get something started yes this looks like a provocation and what's interesting about this and this of course you're right as a fractal of the earlier event which started the Arab Spring Is that Muslims aren't the ones who self-immolate, it's the Buddhists that do that. Yes, fractal. So I find a whole thing suspicious and interesting Well there is stuff going on in Africa First of all the Congo was supposed to have their election today Yeah i have a clip

25:40 Oh good, I do too. What do you have? I have AFP again because they're all over this. No, I got that... I think it's uh... PBS! I see, PBS. I want to listen. Also today Congo delayed elections in three cities where a deadly Ebola outbreak is centered the cities are considered opposition strongholds and the delay will affect some 1 million voters They will now wait until March to cast ballots The rest of the country votes on Sunday That's their entire report?! Yes, that's PBS. That's all they're gonna give you that is your PBS news? That's all they didn't even mention what's what's going on now This isn't this is incredible Well as my feet I got the mainstream

26:24 to review. Give us the real story! Yeah, to review I've been following the election we've been following the Congo in general whenever Ebola shows up that's usually when troops follow we haven't seen that happen yet but in this particular region is where Very important minerals are mined for everyone's cell phone. There is the most oil in all of Africa apparently comes from the Congo There's always strife there the Chinese are running rampant oil actually comes from Nigeria I thought that they have the most oil it may not all come from there, but I think they have the most It's very its not as needs research gone

27:03 But they definitely own the minerals. They own the minerals, gold diamonds and there's you know 50 militia groups running around killing each other it's all about power to get these minerals as cheaply as possible whoever leads the country will be the king and whoever funds the King rules And well they had the voting machines which I want to bring in the population staunchly against it call them You know the lying, what do they call them? Maybe in this report. They see them as not real that's not the way to vote and of course you don't want touchscreens anywhere there's Ebola but there's also that the reports from Agence France-Presse about the election doesn't even mention Ebola if I can recall. Start in the Democratic Republic of Congo where opposition leaders have slammed the postponement of elections. The country had been due to vote this Sunday in a poll it was hoped would end the two year old crisis over the future President Joseph Kabila

27:58 On Thursday, DRC's electoral commission ordered the poll be put back a week in order to replace voting equipment lost in a warehouse fire. Alliance of parties backing opposition candidate Félix Giscardi said any further delay will not be accepted We know very well that this delay has nothing to do with the reasons put forward by the Electoral Commission They give us excuse after excuse but one day they'll run out of excuses and December 30th will put a stop to their excuses Félix Cicikeri told the supporters to remain calm in the next few days but the 30th of December is a red line according to the UDPS, a red line that shall not be crossed otherwise the militants would take the matter in their own hands without waiting for the party's instruction according to the Secretary General. Meanwhile on Friday

28:47 Joseph Olen Gankoy, the president of a government commission charged with monitoring the elections preparation urged the authorities to accept the UN help to deploy voting materials across the country so that the election can be held on 30th December. Meanwhile several people have been killed after a plane chartered by DRC's National Electoral Commission crashed near Kinshasa. The Antonov 26 operated by the company Golmaer was returning to the capital delivering election results forms to the central city of Chicago. There have been varying accounts as to the number of people on board and the number of casualties." So while PBS omits the fact that two-thirds of the voting machines burned in a fire, and that people from the Election Committee died in the fiery plane crash than they had election forms on board... Oh well looks like they'll just vote it in March!

29:44 Unbelievable! Yes. Really? That is PBS nowadays, I don't know what completely happened but they've turned into a very...I think it's like not even on par with NBC News Well if they were NBC at least would be something to laugh at this is not even funny now this may have something to do with China and this is why keep referring to but I really can't find you know, anything that points to them directly or who the key... I mean we're obviously a player in this fight. I don't know who we're with and what side were on but China is now moving into the next phase of their no road three belt strategy and because Kenya could not repay

30:30 a loan, an infrastructure loan the Chinese had given to them. They now have taken possession of Kenya's main port. Economic hit man! Bigger than this is huge. Oh they just do it differently? Yeah no bloodshed yeah I mean people will be hurt by this but in general hey just give them offer they can't refuse that they actually can't even fulfill and then take over whatever you need I didn't know they took over the port. Yeah, it just came out...just came out over yeah Wow and well that should be interesting the geopolitics in China or China and Africa is fascinating Yeah so anyway so maybe now is the time to send in troops for you know the Ebola issue? Yes Unless unless it's going the way we want it! I mean it would have to be not not for Kenya but I mean

31:32 for the Congo, for DRC. It probably is going the way we want it to go I don't know what to put...the troops are just to serve some other function. I dunno. Alright well at least were on it. Yeah somebody is. Unlike PBS. PBS man! Unbelievable Then we have Wesley Clark showing up in the news again Maybe he's gonna run for president again Well, that's an interesting point. Now a reminder about Wesley Clark he told this story A few years after 9-11 about something that happened to him in the Pentagon two weeks after 9-11 Where he received the following briefing we call it The Wes Clarke 7 So I came back to see him a few weeks later

32:27 And by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, are we still going to war with Iraq? He said oh it's worse than that! He reached over on his desk and picked up a piece of paper and he said... ...I just got this down from upstairs meeting the Secretary of Defense office today. This is a memo that describes how we're gonna take out seven countries in five years starting with Iraq then Syria, Lebanon Libya, Somalia Sudan and finishing off Iran So that was the plan. That plan is probably still on the books, but here he is speaking of the pullout which of course would be staunchly against although Syria wasn't on his list He understands how the neocon war machine works and he's a part of it General let me start with you CNN reporting that the abrupt decision to withdraw from Syria that started this cascading event occurred after the president spoke with Turkish President Erdogan and essentially said take it It's yours We're out

33:23 Turkey is part of the NATO coalition that you once led. How concerned are you about this process or lack thereof and the essential giving seeding of influence to Turkey and presumably other actors in Erdogan's orbit? Well, I'm very concerned because there doesn't seem to be any strategic rationale for the decision. And if there's no strategic rational for the decision then you have to ask why was this decision made? I can tell that people around the world are asking this and some of our friends and allies in the Middle East are asking well did Erdogan blackmail the president? Was their a payoff or something what is it? Why would a guy make a decision like this? Because all

34:02 Did Erdogan blackmail the president? Was there a payoff to the president? Recommendations were against it. And it looked like all the facts are against it, too. We're not quite finished with ISIS... We're not taking a lot of casualties over there. The Kurds have been reliable allies. It's costing us billions! Why do this- We're taking huge casualties. The American taxpayer Right now And this is the matter that's of most concern, or should be of most concern to us. What does this say about the foreign policy in the United States? That we're not reliable? That we make strategic decisions based on no strategic logic?

34:42 What kind of person is driving the helm? That's the issue, but this is a political issue not a military issue Jim Mattis took a political post in this administration His job was to support the president United States when all the chips are down. He couldn't do it he left Trump's now replaced him and all that is in accordance with the way it should be Odd man. What? I didn't... Everything's in the courts the way it should be, what would then- what your complaints? See, I wasn't quite sure exactly, I mean is this the truth wants to come out or let's just listen to that last bit again. I found it incomprehensible Not a military issue Jim Mattis took a political post in this administration His job was to support the president of United States when all the chips are down He couldn't do it he left

35:30 Trump's now replaced him all that is in accordance with the way it should be Interesting. That is that must be a truth should come out thing not quite quite sure It so this is okay what he may be saying is Mattis is out and that's the way it should be we needed him out of there for something else or we needed the other guy in. No, Madison's not getting any work anywhere I mean i put it very made it very clear to newsletter and I'll reiterate this one of the points he was a board member and made a big point of being on the board of Theranos perhaps the biggest scam

36:09 Silicon Valley history and he's on the board of directors this guy. And that's because, I kind of accused him being a sucker for the blondie that ran the place it was an eye batter you know hi with the big dude hey have a deep voice what that means? I'm sexy! And on top of that, you know and you have to remember this guy is a bachelor. He proposed the one woman ever and she at the day of the wedding or just before the way she called it off. What? I didn't know this about Mattis. Yeah he's never been married. Eternally heartbroken. 9 foot nine so he's got a Napoleonic complex and uh... he is not a guy that you would just assume that not having even working in position of authority like that

36:59 Because he's unstable because he got dumped Well, he got dumped on his wedding. He got run around by Elizabeth Holmes and made a fool out of himself. He should have never gotten the position of any sort after that experience. What's doing there? I couldn't see through this scam that he was dealing with. Well the problem with Theranos or Theronos is that a lot of guys like that got scammed including Colin Powell. He was in that group as well on the board. Yeah guys who were susceptible to some blondie You know, bleached blonde. Let's make that clear who likes to manipulate men? Hey middle-aged man very susceptible to this if they're you know any bit you know thinking of the feeling their oats as it were let's see who else let me just look at this board again and see who was on let's see Who else is is unfit

37:55 Yeah, I believe anyone who was on that board is unfit to have any position of authority. It's just a mark of the devil you're out. Riley Bechtel of the Bechtel Group Economic Hitmen. David Boies? The lawyer. Boies, Schiller and Flexner? Yeah old older guy William Fouge former director CDC Richard Kovacevic Wells Fargo another crook Fabrizio... No, you can't call him a crook. What? I said you can't call him a crook! No okay, I can't call him a crook. Was running a crap organization Yes Can I say that? Yeah Okay thank you don't want to get sued. Fabrizio Bonanni Amgen well that makes sense and then Mattis so he was really the board is much smaller than i thought at least that was the 2016 board yeah it may have been bigger earlier because i was quite sure that uh Colin Powell was on there

39:00 Well, I think he has some association. You know Tim Draper did he was in love with her and uh- Was? He still thinks she can make a comeback! Yeah i know he does this is true guys a little out of it what a character Fantastic yeah Meanwhile the Washington Post is doing their job to make Trump look bad in this A headline in Syria Assad's government is doubling down on executions of political prisoners course. atrocities we need another ah, we need another doctors without borders chemical attack. Well the last time there was a doctor's border thing it was I think it was our troops that blew one of their hospitals in the smithereens remember that? Yep. The big of the big

39:50 One of the big planes that has a lot of guns on one side kept circling it and pounding out. The old big plane gun, a big gun plane with big plane with guns. Gunship also now. Turkey also now making all kinds of moves against Greece making noise this is so much going when it comes to the... We don't even know how much this is accurate though Of what? Of all these news reports Well, none of this is... Turkey's doing what with Greece? I'll tell you. It's all well here's the issue The issue is and I think as always it's all about the energy in the pipeline So we know that Israel wants their pipelines to come up through Greece

40:33 their Leviathan field. Turkey is in bed with Russia for all of this and they want their TurkStream to be the thing that brings everything in, they want to stop at all costs and so now they're talking about You know airspace who owns Cyprus all this crap. It's it's the same stuff They always do but they're making noise and they'll probably position ships in the region or blow up a pipeline Meanwhile Poland, I don't we talked about it Poland has now signed their third agreement with US liquid natural liquefied natural gas for their country instead of taking gas from Russia through Ukraine

41:18 I don't know what the, you know... The polls do anything to get a better visa deal with us. I guess. I gotta tell you that's the one thing that Trump really...I don't understand why he won't let let the polls be part of ESTA? You can just visit the US with a quick online form! He promised it! Yeah but somehow... He was getting pushback from someone A lot of people say its the Israelis That would be Puchenik conclusion as well But hey, Trump's done enough favors for the Israelis. He can do this favor for the polls Yeah Who's gonna who's gonna tell are they get as the Israelis gonna turn on us if that deal is done? Come on No, I don't think so

42:08 So what I have seen in the mainstream... By the way, how was your Christmas? Was it good? Were you guys all together or were you up there with people down there and what'd you do? No everybody's scattered around so our Christmas is coming in about five days. Oh yes! The Dvoraks always celebrating on a different date for every occasion You guys kill me Merry Christmas! Go out and get some sales Will ya have the tree up and everything still when y'all get together yeah? Great Interesting. The news is, and I think it's a mistake but you know they believe it's the way to go for ratings They're now all pivoting after our end of year retrospectives All pivoting to 2020 It's all about who's going to be running for 2020 They just believe that political news And I'm talking about the three big mainstream M5M News channels MSNBC CNN Fox That's all they seem to be able to talk about

43:07 Three bees in a camel toe. That's right, everybody! That who is running Bernie Biden Beto and Kamala Harris Yeah well those are three that four of them there is a fact of course we have dozens people running on both sides because the people think they can take out Trump so we have losers like Kasich who's going on about how he's gonna run because he doesn't think this president is doing well and the public wants him. I mean, these guys are...I've never seen so many delusional people! The only person that really if we're gonna go at you know it's the well if Trump can win anyone can win I can win they don't realize that Trump has been a high profile character that can win he gets votes because he's so high-profile the only person like that is Oprah

43:59 And people say, well Oprah can run on media. Well there's another one Tom Hanks? I think he could do it! Well here is the problem with Oprah... We know of Trump wanting to run for president since the 80s He has always talked about it Interestingly, with the same agenda about China. It has not wavered when it comes to that. Doesn't waver much. Oprah was never shown any interest in it at all so she'd be forced into it so she's not going to do it Tom Hanks is a lark he doesn't want to go through the grind of it especially a Hollywood character with all the luggage those Hollywood people have would be miserable

44:43 Right. But what I'm saying is the media has already chosen on the Democrat side, they've chosen that's... They had to take a stand because it's part of the strategy to block Hillary Yeah and every story you're right every story i've seen is followed by 70% of Democrats don't want Hillary anywhere near the word run yeah which is a lie that's a lie People who are screaming in the streets after Trump won and were gathered at Javits, and we're in tears afterwards They don't hate Hillary now right Rand Paul. I think they did there. They're just this is a scape actually not gonna use it again This is a fraud yes Hilary is probably the leading candidate if you ask me hmm that's interesting oh

45:41 She has yet to raise her ugly head. Look how long it took the first time because if she doesn't raise her ugly head for a long time, she gets together a lot of money and that money goes into different accounts so if she doesn't win anything that money still is hers I agree though, I have not seen the candidate who would make it work Four years ago, I mean it's all about appearance and and i'll say it again that's how we elect our presidents. We buy our soap It's all the same way. It's got to look pretty make you feel nice and white afterwards Give you a nice smile Well if you remember the guy the CIA XCIA guy who wrote that behind-the-scenes book in The White House

46:27 during the waning years of the Obama administration slammed Biden for being wrong on every single topic. Biden hasn't got a prayer. It doesn't really matter, it doesn't really matter. The president doesn't have to be right especially if you're running... You know? You're a sales guy! A sales guy and a poppy or mommy. Yeah, you have to sell past the media is there's a real problem. Rand Paul I think is gonna make another run Oh, I think he just does that for to keep his profile high. Well but he's changed something! He is now honing his tweeting skills. I'm not kidding this you should look at his Twitter feed okay? You know he's standing on a beach next

47:13 You know, a bunch of sticks looks like a bonfire but I guess you could say it looks like a teepee and this tweet is... I came to say happy festivus to my friend Elizabeth Warren but i can't find her. I mean this... He's trolling! He's going after Warren! That's a direct hit Let's see, what was the other one? Speaking of criminal justice reform I have to give Jared Kushner credit. He was great on this and I'm glad I got to know him because before that I was a bit suspicious he was the kid from The Omen movie all grown up." This is… Well it sounds like it's professionally written you may have a writer. Yes! He has a writer oh yeah

47:55 So he's making fun of Ted Cruz, posting memes of Cruz with a crazy beard. Yeah I think that is testing his Twitter skills He knows where the 2020 election will be fought Of course or whatever On the Twitter field? Yeah on twitter That's where you win Rules are changed And at least seems to understand it and i don't think he has it in him Kind of. Well, he's such a passive, just the public will never go for it We've been sold, the American public's been sold on a bill of war. Here's Gillibrand on the Van Jones show on CNN? Yeah she wants to run! Oh she does but she kind of cuts herself out in an odd way I have a vision for America about what's right in the world I do believe we should fight for each others kids as hard as we fight for our own. I do believe that we should restore... Let me ask you question What is the issue with saying I DO BELIEVE? What's the difference between you saying I DO BELIEVE

48:55 and saying, I believe it would be someone would say that because they have the feeling idea or perhaps proof that someone thinks you don't believe that. But there's no evidence of that she's just saying i do believe i did reason gauze but i see a lot of professional athletes who many of which are many of whom are borderline if not illiterate despite their college degrees It rarely, most of them would quit college because they'd go to the pros and make all these millions you know unlike the suckers who stay in school. So hey... There you go kids! There's Uncle John telling it like it is. They're borderline illiterate and they say I do believe

49:42 Well, so does Jill Brand. This is a big thing this block you grow up on or zip code you grow up in and I hear this everywhere. This poor kid, you'll hear the music...this poor child if only were born in one zip code over would have had a very different life as if the physical place my sister was born in Uganda January 1st 1967 so you tell me

50:26 You know, that's a bad zip code. That's not the good zip code to grow up in for sure So anyway there is alot of that. You should have a chance to live up your God given potential and that means good schools better public schools you know debt free college things that really make opportunity possible so I have... Debt free college another zinger! I missed that the first time Oh, that's a good way of putting it. That is a great campaign line! I like the writing style. I believe in debt-free college because you kind of just... yeah hell yeah! I believe in debt free homes! I believe in a debt free car! Debt free college things that really make opportunity possible

51:03 So I have that vision and so the question is do I do that from a presidential platform or do I? Do it from the US Senate and that is the question. I will decide very soon We got a poll we should put up at some point, but did notice in that poll that the top three were I think Biden, Bernie and Beto. Three B's and all white guys in a party as diverse as ours does it worry you to see the top three being white guys? Yes! I hate white guys Why why I aspire for our country to recognize the beauty of our diversity at some point in the future. And, I hope someday we have a woman president. Uh...I love the fact that Barack Obama was our president for eight years. I hope more people of color not only aspire and win the presidency because that's what makes America so extraordinary that where we are all about. We are everything and i think a more inclusive America is a stronger America

52:00 What is interesting to me, here's Van Jones on CNN. The actual organization who has pre-chosen the three Bs It's not like there isn't anyone else running and saying all we hear about are the three Bs in the camel toe That's all we hear about! Three Bs Instead of saying it's the party... No Yes CNN maybe you should include some other people on your list to give them some exposure Yes it is I agree. WAPO, Time, CNN...CNN just-I mean they went all in very quickly and they seem to have dropped Kamala Harris Two years before-give me a break! It's ridiculous! Even the MH17 flight that was lost after a year CNN finally just had to give up This is too much you can have too much of one type of programming The public will not-look we've been in television a long time John

52:58 If you switch and every channel you go to is election this, election that it's going to get old. Ratings will slip." Yeah I agree But maybe it's all just a deal-making stage for the ads Hey look we've been really good to you guys We've done the three B's You know you might be right It's almost like the network news people...I've said this before talked about on the show Everyone, all those network news it's only old people who watch that in those new things. It's a dying audience although nobody takes into account that new people are getting old but that's okay is the dying audiences terrible now the network news folk

53:49 appeal to the oldsters because they have ads for them specifically. Lots of drug ads, aches and pains ads you know incontinence ads all this stuff that old people need so it's not like they're doing there they're screwing up And what's interesting is that the derivative of the audience they're talking to and when I mean by that is little clips that show up on social media That's kind of a bonus. They know they can't with a straight face say to any ad agency or media buyer, yeah we got 18-24 we're right here in the pocket. They can't say it because no one will believe them it's not true

54:31 They can say, look we got 55 plus and it's a big market for pharma. And the derivative is just what is posted online and circulates around these people who are looking at this are not watching those channels they're just taking the snippets and throwing it into the outrage machine and feeding back in just you know it's part of the big loop It's really quite genius I mean not that anyone... That's how they make money Not that anyone concocted it Before we take a break, I'd like to get your take on the gyrations in the financial markets. Because the funniest thing I saw over Christmas was a tweet from the president after we closed Christmas Day with two days... Was it three days down in a row? And oh horrible worst Christmas close ever! The president

55:25 After Mnuchin has called the working group on financial markets to see how they're doing with cash, last time we used that name we called them by their nickname The Plunge Protection Team. That's right. I forgot about the Plunge Protection Team. The Working Group on Financial Markets, that is the Plunge Protection Team! Yeah So he called them and went oh this has sent everyone into a you know just no Santa rally let's put it like that and then the president the next day tweets if i were you I'd buy the dip My mind exploded. He's doing by the BTFD By the dip everybody and it shoots up a thousand points the next market day I think 1085 something like that was the most in history That was fantastic he is the stock whisperer of course you had to sell at the end of the day otherwise You get screwed. I'm sure it's down today. No no Dallas take look. I'm sure yes, I'm sure it is

56:23 Think it was down three or four hundred points at over this morning. Yeah, yeah Did you see the best I've heard the best commentary? I've heard was Down 396 96 yeah The best commentary ever heard with some some real old-timer was on one of these financial station shows and he says This is It's computer trading. It's just the way it works nowadays, you have a downward trend for a little while the computers all jump on it and they position themselves that is going to go down. You know what it is? It's algorithmic amplification!

57:04 It's exactly what it is. He says, it has gotten exaggerated more than ever because the computers will push away down and then it starts to go up and they all go nuts in a matter of form. They all go nuts and things skyrockets and then goes down and goes up. It's crazy! This seems like the perfect time if you have any clue about how how it's actually working. As a day trader, you should be able to make millions of dollars a year. But if you get off cycle... Yeah, you're done. I think that you can do it on indexes but individual stocks is little more complicated because there are probably five basic algos. I've studied some of them and some really dumb that'll just go on at certain time of day if they're in upward motion but obviously they will suppress price through pricing

57:56 I think algorithmic amplification may be the only thing today's algorithms are really good at, no matter what it is. That's what we've seen on the social media networks like what do the algos do? This is a good point because this actually stems from the fractal of semiconductors and one of the greatest things semiconductor could do was amplify Yeah! It is a fractal that's...it's either compression or amplification They could do that too. Yes, because the world... I mean we love... And you're Mr. Compression! Yeah well there's different kinds of compression but compression in time and you know abstraction of operations anything that can be compressed is it's in our human DNA almost to want to compress things but the amplification part yeah that is truly what computers do amplify. Compress decompress?

58:51 Huh. Modulate, demodulate? Well here's Rick- Binary man! Binary! Hey baby! Up down! It's binary man there is nothing else to it Rick Santelli from CNBC had his own take on this. Paulson is the Treasury Secretary during the crisis, you know at first they were going to borrow three quarters of a trillion dollars to buy toxic assets that never materialized it morphed on the fly things could get messy I can't believe some of the nuances though really they can understand that anybody would be worried about liquidity i'll tell you what go

59:27 Go visit any major FCM in this business and ask them how many hours a day they're putting in when markets are moving like this. Or talk about margin and leverage, or how many times Treasury Secretary Mnuchin was concerned about market structure? All the articles beginning in December! Listen, I understand every nuance is the wrong nuance because the message isn't really any of these individual thoughts or what the Treasury Secretary's saying. The issue is quite simple. The central banks in the world propped up the stock market to a point where it can't sustain itself during normalization and normalization of only a few of the participants in the grand liquified scheme of things that is the main issue that markets have to contend with

1:00:11 And they can point blame at whatever they want. There's an whole industry that does that, and this president certainly doesn't get the benefits of much of it." What did he actually say? I have no idea! I mean, I kind of was catching it then... At the end he talks about how the President doesn't get something, and I don't know what he meant by that. I dunno. You know, I think our thesis here is actually quite a good one because end-of-year there's always stuff going on. There's pension institutional rebalancing Thank you chat room troll room There's a number of things but it's the algorithmic amplification that gives you these wild swings and we can probably look to see This is something. We need to be on lookout for Anywhere an algorithm is running Let's see if we can find the amplifier over amplification because eventually something has to break Yeah, amplification for amplifications sake is not the way to go That's why audio amplifiers

1:01:13 Need a preamp with it was a volume control on it. You just stick your stuff into the amp Straight up and then you just gets blasted get black you blow your house up But if you have a pre-app, which is a little controller that says hey I'm gonna give you a little bit of this juice not all of it Then it calms it down we don't have a preamp for the economy interesting what the Fed I guess would want to be the dial Turner or To dial the volume control. Yeah, the volume control they I guess that's what they how they feel their role is you know turn up interest rates turn them down or inflate the money supply and no tone control but then this And with that I'd like to say in the morning to you and thank you to the man who put the C in compression John C Devorak! Well I want to thank you

1:02:12 And I want to thank all the boots on the ground feeding the air subs in the water and all the names of nights out there in The morning to the troll room. Let me see how many trolls we got here today. Let me just do a quick little scan Wow 896 that's not bad for a Christmas week Well, in the morning to you trolls. Good to see you got your troll polls with ya! NoAgendaStream.com is where uh... You can always tune into the program when we stream it live on Thursdays and Sundays Also I would like to say in the morning too Comic Strip Blogger who brought us the artwork for episode 1097 title of that Two-Way Sword

1:02:47 And again, lots of art. We chose this one because it was... It really depi- by the way it was a nice illustration. It was the White House and a bunch of protesters in comic strip blogger True Form with his uh, his comic, comic strip drawing and they were holding up protest signs such as peace sucks! Stop Peace! Trump do war not! More War let's do war! That was very appropriate I think for for the episode Was there any, there was other art I think that uh... There was some art that was okay. It wasn't great but uh i personally like this one because it had the uh it had the tone that we're bitching about which is all these democrats and you just proved that with some earlier clips yeah all these you know peaceniks that want war

1:03:39 Peace makes for war was the only sign he left out. Yeah, not American enough to know that one but it was good we appreciate it noagendaartgenerator.com We always love looking at all the art The art is available for anyone to see It is part of the value-for-value system that we started here and we appreciate the value that Comicstripblogger brought to these show with his art Well, we do have a few people to thank including three whoppers at the beginning of the list that came in with $1,000 plus. Whoa! Yeah let's start with Sir Anonymous Chiner. Wait a minute... Do I know The Anonymous Chiner? I don't think so. I don't think i've ever heard of The Anonymous Chiner no he's new

1:04:26 No, he's a knight. He's a nice man and night Yes But we don't know who you haven't heard from him for a while I don't think it was at the meetup but he's in San Ramon California so could easily become member of the meetup 1098 whoa We have not had an episode Club member in a long time spent a few number of months this being episode 1098 also noticed by the way I did the pre stream art It is 10-9-8 as we count down the year. 10, 9, 8... Ooh! 7654321 Yes exactly Anyway back to our anonymous China Hi John and Adam sir anonymous China here I've been a long time believe it or not i'm still loyal listener to your show since twice a week after seven years

1:05:18 This donation is for show 1098, but besides the obvious reason another way to think about the amount is that it's almost tax time again and form 1098 Is the taxation form. The IRS slaves like me need to submit to deduct some of our mortgage interest from our income. Well, I'm crazy. Well, I'm working hard every day to support my family and the house we bought your shows really helped me stay mentally healthy and have a sense of humor dealing with this crazy world wish you both a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year title change for me night to Baronet Wow sir anonymous China thank you very much this is fantastic what a great Christmas present

1:06:08 It's appreciated and we're happy you are mentally healthy. The second big donor is anonymous with a thousand dollars, and he says anonymous Christmas donation first-time donation from one of the many anonymous Aussie listeners. So I humbly request that de-douching. You've been de-douched. Huh... Anonymous Aussie listener? This brings up an issue. Okay He's now a knight if he wants to be, but he says nothing about it. So do we just ignore this knighthood? What have we done in the past? I thought the peerage commission committee had worked this out many years ago. They did too but again lost the memo. All right well we'll just let it slide. But thank you very much.

1:06:59 Or it could just be Sir Anonymous. The trouble is there's too many of those. Sir Mark Milliman in Longmount, Colorado 1000 he wrote an email and he donates all the time yes Let's see if there's anything here we need to know oh yeah I have it loaded up on the screen Morning Chance from the high stoner lands of Boulder County It's in Colorado, of course. My Christmas donation is coming through today it should be in the box by Christmas Eve at the latest and this is a memory of my father who passed away on November 9th from complications due to colorectal cancer. F-cancer he says I think I'll take the executive producership but this donation is for my father so

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1:08:39 The other changes given since then was a hundred here, 100 there. No jingles no karma I don't waste time with the jingles or note. Well I'd like to do an F cancer Yeah we'll do that for sure Let me let me let me do it now everyone's talking about it You've got karma for anyone who needs it Thank you very much, sir. Mark Milliman Why don't you let us know if you have a protectorate if you are barren and then we gladly upgrades you there's no rush No goes on oh I'm sorry um I do not need karma It says that but I do need Karma because they need the satellite deal to come through or else I'll need job Karma

1:09:25 Your last Sunday show was right on target with my assignment of the Huawei, with my assessment of the Huawei situation. I already explained another component of the fuck Trump in China plan from The Deep State these elitist assholes don't care who they ruin but Boeing SpaceX Hughes and the others are involved in it so they are messing with the big boys except for Elon who is just a little boy he's in the business yeah oh yeah It's up in that area, you know. Yes I hope you to have a Merry Christmas with your respective families Thank you for covering These beats so I don't have to my amygdala can handle the m5m at all In his phone in this current form including Fox News and WSJ They always see so much more when I read or watch anything from the MSA I always see so much more when I read or watch anything from the M 5m Thanks to us

1:10:22 Adam, I hope your theory about AOC is wrong. I know she provides great source for the show but she is an idiot! There's no simpler or nicest way to put it. The problem is that many of the millennial idiots think she's a genius Let the fucking of Hillary begin. I know Bernie recognizes that his political life is ending, so he will pump up AOC." It should be entertaining... it should be an entertaining ride we need to give him a satellite camera for this deal. Yes and that of course is the bottom line as long as it's an entertaining ride for The No Agenda Show and our network- We don't care!

1:11:02 Sir Mark Milliman, I know exactly what he does. Uh...I know why he wants the satellite Karma and I really hope it works Here you go. You've got karma We have some of the most amazing people in our audience Did you see that at the great Twitter thread? The uh..the no agenda selfie thread on Twitter Oh man! I think who started off Two of our producers, I think in Colorado and then everyone was doing really close-up selfies of half your head. We got some interesting looking people

1:11:38 Well, that's a fact. Oh my goodness! It was great though you know Sir Chris of course with his washed up on the beach... been on a desert island for 30 years. He is prophetic. Everyone jumped in on it usually look at this thread because people we got good lookers. You know Luminaria in her lab coat I mean was just fun to see everyone working on the day after Christmas and and where they were and what they were doing. I don't know, it was something about what people would call community but what i call our Valley for Value Network or the network... It was fun! Okay now we have uh an interesting one Kyle from Cincinnati 799.88 from Chapel Hill North Carolina ah right he actually um let me reach over hold on a second yeah reach around

1:12:30 Hey, look out! Here I come. I'm reaching around, reaching around... Always good for the dirty little jibe. That's what you're keen to do. Okay uh i don't think you know he sent a check-in and he has some oh no I don't really have anything. Shall i go back to my dirty jibes then again to entertain people? Yeah, go back your dirty jibes! Well while you look why don't I read a quick note... No, no, we're moving on He just sent a check with uh I think very it's just the no jingles or something like along those lines he but I got a kick out of this Kyle from Cincinnati was in Chapel Hill so It's all right

1:13:15 If he wants to say something, let us know. Thank you very much Kyle Michael Halby I'm sorry Michael Halby in Marion, Louisiana Iowa Mary Iowa 333 33 These are all executive producers, by the way. This donation completes my knighthood joining my father at the round table been listening to The Best Podcasts in the Universe since episode 50 also a listener of The Daily Source Code way back before iTunes had podcast support and when I was still in high school, woo! I even remember John on Silicon Spin way back in the ZDTV days. I've been extremely fortunate this year so it seems only appropriate to cap off the year completing my knighthood Merry Christmas Happy New Year Michael

1:13:58 Tell me. Well, Michael thank you so much that's right You know it's a it's interesting those old days the old days back in there like this kind of its theme You know with the with the old Advertisements that you put in the newsletter Oh Yeah if you didn't see the news though you missed out but someone said I'll just play tell me when you want Me to stop a clip of you which I think is from the 80s about then you were being interviewed about viruses Can I play a little bit? Just as a... I'm interested. Now why do hackers plant viruses, what kind of guys are these we visited computer columnist John Dvorak to learn more about Oh! Where's the C? Whoa whoa whoa whoa What's up with that? Yeah. Psychological profile of the virus hacker

1:14:46 They're young, they're mostly male. They probably like pizza and Coca-Cola you can find them at a 711 and they probably have weird hours you know they stay up real late That may sound like the description of a typical teenager but beware because it may also be the picture of a typical computer hacker according to the Computer Virus Industry Association some 60 thousand PCs across the country are infected by viruses every month Hackers try to infiltrate the systems for a variety of reasons. For some, it's just a practical joke. Others may have a score to settle with a former boss The real reason may be a whole lot simpler, but just as harmful. Here it comes! There's two things that make people create viruses One is some peer group pressure they are in a group that does this kind of stuff the other one is boredom because they you know maybe these people were employed and actually there are some people who are employed they create viruses and there's just a cheap thrill of doing it and seeing what happens to your creation It is a little bit like graffiti art in that regard You know throwing something up on the wall then taking off before the police catch ya

1:15:48 You know, it's not your wall. John I love this hearing this stuff That's that's it man. That's that's what that's why hackers do what they do That was the hackers then and then they decided to figure out how they make money, and that changed things. Oh yeah no it's a very different situation It's just funny I mean if you play some clips from me from MTV but i'll sound very stupid believe me I'll get them Yeah! You should Hey... I'm not gonna People out there I know a lot of you have collected Adams old MTV stuff send me some of the better stuff There we go It's not your wall man

1:16:26 Not your wall, man. It's pretty good. Meanwhile, Randall Scheibel in Somerville Massachusetts came with $333 I've been listening for the last nine months and i've decided to donate. Can I please get a de-douching? Yes, you can You've been dedouched! I would also like to call out two of my friends Mary and Brandon who I've punched in the mouth And they still haven't donated Oh no They need douchebags Douchebags! A double douchebagger Douchebags! Can I get a two to the head respect from Al Sharpton and thanks Hillary. I appreciate all the work you guys do for the greatest podcast in the world universe. ITM Randy from Somerville. Thanks, Hilary? Oh yeah, I think I know what it is here we go. R-E-S-P-I-C-T. Thanks Beyonce

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1:19:23 Awake in 2019. I think he's already started. Random jingle goat no karma. Random jingle goat, no karma. Bam boom shakalaka brother! You got it? Oh you said no karma right? Yeah that's what... hello David Drew is in Henderson Nevada 23456 and he emailed something to us his uncle Dave on the old Dvorak blog oh was that who that is yeah Uncle Dave coming. He loves the show, uh Sir Uncle Dave Night of the Retired Old Farts here with a New Year's donation at 23456 and a personal thank you for what you two did for me this year! What was that? You say actually it should be what was that you ask if you remember at the beginning of April

1:20:18 I started my retirement with a driving trip to Arizona. While heading down a lonesome desert road, a deer ran across ahead of me. I swerved and my newer used car bought four days before ended up on its side off the road demolished in a boulder. Ouch! After cutting me out of the car, I was airlifted to the hospital where I stayed for over a week. Holy crap! The following months I healed my battered body at what some of my doctors considered an amazing rate which i attribute to the no agenda show Wait a minute Well I don't always agree with your conclusions By the way people don't have to mention that to us because we know Your studied analysis and commentary against the insanity of the M5M belches out

1:21:03 Belches out quieted my amygdala so much so that I could concentrate on healing. That's an interesting theory So he never got the swollen amygdala and that could heal better instead of you know being all freaked out There may be something to that I think so too, and I'm not normally buying into a lot of this but I kind of think that's probably true because ever since we found out about the amygdala issue. Since I bet there are others who have been mentally healed by you, by the power invested in me, by ME, I pronounce you doctors of deconstruction!

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1:22:40 Yeah, what not in Little House on the Prairie. They didn't The doctor was always out of money well sir we Mean so exactly it's the same my point exactly thank you James Williams $220 and 46 cents Should complete my knighthood may be granted the title of Sir James Knight of the Paradise Star. I'm thankful for the discussions of lesser covered topics, research performed for this show and overall value of this product. Yes! This product is great. Jingles Darkside Yoko and Lone Wolf Will do when i'll see you at the podium later for your knighting.

1:23:36 It's been too long. I've been too long since we played that one thanks for bringing it back perfect with the wool yeah Roy tenhava in pin yukar by knocker by knocker pine knocker $200 and 33 cents John and Adam no long note just a short Thanks for all the awesome work you guys do and the entertainment insanity You provide Merry Christmas regards Roy Thank You Roy Don Qville Pardon me Roy. Is that the cat that chewed your new shoes? I've heard it differently is that the kid is at the cat that shit on your shoes That would be again the dirty version a colleges or last associate executive producers just fake colleges He's and by the way obscured everything. I have no idea who this person is he's fake collegeist he think I blocked him on Twitter, so

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1:26:09 Okay, I think I have most of these let's give it a shot If we if we fall for beautiful So if the rule is that we have to do it then I'll do it You've got karma excuse me Debbie doubter. Well, you didn't get the we in there Oh, I didn't hear that but I didn't understand he wanted the Wii Yeah But that was fantastic surprised you could find those that fast There's the week I could have done the wee

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1:28:26 I've been worried about it. Well, it's something with the publishing of the show believe me you're worried but It's completely separate. I've been following IPFS for a couple of years and have been messing around with it Its ipfs stands for the interplanetary file system Yeah And yesterday did the ultimate this is something that one of these like Tim Berners-Lee or one of these types of guys or came up with no No, not at all. Who did? I think the main guy is a kid from Stanford Okay And it's not in anyone's interest except us to have something like this running and what took me over there when I revisit these things from time to time to see if they're useful and I've come to the conclusion that IPFS, The Interplanetary File System is almost useful for large podcast distribution

1:29:26 Now, I'm not going to get into the way it works but very nicely Cloudflare has set up a gateway. In order for this to work and it's a distributed file system and of course you know the internet is the cloud and everyone's hosting your files there are lot of stuff that we've heard before but this one seems to be something that can get legs because they've incorporated into blockchain. In fact, it's very similar to what GitHub does a very similar type of systemology or system. But if you don't have the software running to basically little local server, because it's just a hash instead of a full URL

1:30:09 You can use a public gateway and Cloudflare set up a public gateway for this. They did? Yeah, they said it's to stimulate. Now in all these cases having you know a main front end or like a distribution network where even if you can distribute between other peers that are hosting the file that's being requested is It's not bad to have you know a couple of to have a system that can You know rotate amongst these public gateways for people who don't have them anyway long story short I've started the second RSS feed is completely separate. I've tested it it worked and

1:30:46 It'll be in the show notes, nashownotes.com or noagendashow.com and if anyone wants to try it out because pretty much I'm uploading 120 meg file which is the average size for our show and it's going into the IPFS. I'm not hosting it. I'm hosting one original copy on my laptop and everyone who subscribes so that should be able to receive it and I'm just interested to see how well that works if just you know...it's a test but I think it's an important one Was hosting it well no one's hosted with The the fun thing just floats around his data in the cloud and then it gets picked off. Yeah, yeah So now there was this free loading Well It's no different freeloading than torrents only you don't have to have a central tracker as long as you have the hash of the file You're requesting

1:31:41 And that's what pushed me over the edge. I tweeted just a hash, not a URL just the hash said can anyone see this and it was a hash for an image I'd drawn that said it worked And a lot of people got it! And they knew how to retrieve it. It was like okay so there is enough out there to start testing. I know with all this de-platforming going on There is stuff thats working And I love trying to lead that charge because there's no money in this. There's no money anywhere, so it's like somebody can't screw you. It's like podcasting and people are like hey man why did we? We gotta platform these guys because we're losing money cause we're associated with them Exactly Yeah, can do that So good! I'm glad your doing this There is also a... You know The last thing in the world I'd do, I don't trust any of this stuff

1:32:28 Yeah, well there's and there's interesting because it's it's created with a blockchain. There's interesting ways you can add in payments for either hosting or storing some of it or for content I mean, I'm not too interested in that part but I am very interested in the ability to just share a file with anybody by dropping it into a folder on my... You know, it's the ultimate Goal, it's like a drop box. You know it's like you I was thinking Dropbox when you say yeah And they just came to me as well It's pretty much like Dropbox you throw it in you copy the location which is not a URL and then anyone can go and get it now the issue of course Is you put something up there? There's no way for you to ever get it off where its unlikely because once copies are made you know you're removing it unlike Dropbox is Not going to remove it so you want to be careful what you put up

1:33:22 Anyway, that'll be a test and I'd love to hear back from our dudes and dudettes named Ben and Benjamina. Let's see if they had any success with that then we'll continue to look. Huh? Yeah well good yeah How about this drone story this Gatwick drone story something long version of it because this This now as I understand the Gatwick was shut down for At least 24 hours. 36 hours This is an outrage, an aviation outrage it makes no sense someone is lying I mean there's a million ways to detect and they couldn't find it could there's no way to find a signal that was controlling the drone? I don't even think there was even a picture of the drone

1:34:12 Well, it's going to sell some new products. Yes I've noticed this as well the drone dome security? Well there is a couple of them. There is one domestic and one in Israel both are discussed in the drone threat Airports report from NBC. With millions of Americans flying over these holidays, US officials tonight are growing increasingly concerned that our airports could face an illegal drone disruption like the one that shut down a major airport last week. NBC's Pete Williams now on the push to protect the sky this.

1:35:03 And even accidentally bumping into a plane could be disastrous. A larger format drone, 10 to 15 pounds could do us significant amount of damage to an airplane and if it were close to the ground it could result in loss of the airplane Even more worrisome is the prospect of intentional attack ISIS terrorists overseas have been using hobbyist drones to carry explosives or drop small bombs. Congress has been slow to respond to the drone threat, it only recently gave the federal government authority to disable drones that fly into restricted airspace And security experts say most airports are not prepared to deal with them. Salt Lake City's airport is monitoring two of its runways with a system to deal with potential drones made by a Utah company It uses radar to detect them and dispatches a drone hunter to bring them down The company CEO says it's not just airports that are unprepared When we go into stadiums, when we go to airports there's fences there's all sorts of checkpoints

1:36:01 And what we're learning now is that America needs to invest in airspace security just like ground security. It's a rapidly growing threat with 2 million drones estimated to be in the hands of American hobbyists by the end of 2019. Hmm... I'm still not buying it. The drone killers are these drones that have nets and they just go get to the drone and throw a net on him The one company I have is Rafael Advanced Defense Systems. They make the drone Dome, has now been ordered by the UK first customer for the counter unmanned air system equipment

1:36:41 Yeah, that's the one I think was discussed. And of course they did find some saps and blamed it all on them and the media went wild then it turned out oopsie no It wasn't them The couple arrested and later released without being charged for a drone disruption at Gatwick Airport in London last week They are now speaking out for the first time Paul Gates says they were treated very badly as you can probably imagine We're feeling very, uh...feeling completely violated. Our home has been searched and our privacy and identity completely exposed. Our names photos And other personal information have been broadcast throughout the world. See? Even their response was so odd

1:37:25 I have a different theory though. Well, I would say if you're going to just go on just a superficial theory the company that makes the drone dome is the one who sent a drone in there probably one that's not controlled. A lot of them nowadays are... You can just program the drone to do stuff and it goes out and does it comes back home or goes someplace else whatever you want it to And you go in there and just mess with them, and then you come in there with your sales guys and say hey look what we got. That would be the most superficial analysis I can give. What's missing from this is evidence of any drone at all. What's missing from this is more than one aircraft reporting a drone

1:38:10 did not happen. There's no recording of it, there's no one saying... drones are all over airports people are assholes they fly these things and I say that as an aviator they fly these things everywhere airports do deal with this and to shut down Gatwick for 36 hours can only be because of one thing what unidentified flying object hooray And I'm serious about that. I'm not saying it was a spaceship, but I think there was something unidentified they couldn't figure it out and they had to bring in a whole bunch of people and we'll never hear about... It was on radar? Because if there was visible there would be videos all over the place No man! UFO's don't show up on radar

1:39:02 Hello? Was this visible, what are you talking about I think it was visible. I've seen a picture which i don't think is... who the hell knows I've seen a picture where something's flying there that looks like it might be some kind of disc shaped object It could be a frisbee for all I know I'm saying this type of shutdown for 36 hours Is not because we think someone's flying a drone around Which we haven't seen have no pictures of No radar, ground radar Nothing This was something much bigger. Well, it's not the Occam's razor kind of analysis I gave... No! But that's not why people come to The No Agenda Show John. More will be revealed Yes So i was listening all the mainstream news and most of them were about scammers Oh really? You must have felt right at home Sorry? You must have felt right at home

1:40:11 Yeah, everything's a scam. Scam! Scam! So uh... Scam! Scam! So they I've got two of these clips one of them is i think educational I think people will enjoy listening to it but the other one is just like what is this stupidity? This is that this to me is native ad for Netflix because the scam they're about to discuss is not even anything new and specific or specific to Netflix has been going on with PayPal for decades but play the Netflix CBS scam for dummies. The Federal Trade Commission warning Netflix customers

1:40:50 about a new email scam. Criminals are posing as Netflix in these emails and asking recipients to confirm payment details. Experts say it's a good idea to avoid clicking on links in emails like this altogether, best to log onto your Netflix account on the Netflix site." Yeah that's not the most egregious of them... The one I am despising is the Amazon gift card I have the gift card one, but it's not the Amazon gift card. This one here was a generic gift card scam and Amazon was never mentioned. Oh interesting So it wasn't a native ad in fact there wasn't an ad for anything? I thought this is actually a mainly because Andrew Horowitz his father-in-law fell for this brother

1:41:36 Yes, and he's apparently Andrews beside himself. How bad how bad did it get what happened to all this? It was like something like ten grand or something do each here Here's one here's a gift card scammer This is the rundown of how it works I have more details from someone from that let me just before before we play the report Here's my observation with the Amazon gift card scam it comes in you see this subject line And it's oh no No This Is not email Oh, I'm sorry. Okay that...I have an email issue. Well let's listen to something. Yours is different you can tell us later but it's not this. Gift cards are an increasingly popular holiday present turns out thieves like them too federal regulators say in the past three years gift card fraud has jumped 270 percent Tony DeCoppo spoke with someone who's been scammed all the steps that were being done and taken

1:42:29 seemed real Trinidad Gonzalez says a man claiming to be her grandson called saying he was in jail and needed thousands of dollars immediately He then put someone on the phone who posed as an attorney You know I was hesitant because that's a lot of money But the caller said he would make it easy for the 76 year old grandmother. He told her to purchase gift cards from Walmart And give him the numbers on the back of the card He warned her not to answer questions from store employees. They asked me, do you know where this money is going to? And I said it's going to my grandchildren that night she figured out her real grandson was at home in Virginia by that point Gonzalez who had recently lost her husband was out $4000 and there was too much money

1:43:11 Too much money for me to hand over to a stranger like that. According to the Federal Trade Commission, 26% of victims paid scammers with a gift card between January and September this year. That's up from only 7 percent in 2015. It is huge issue. Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro Why wouldn't a scammer just ask for cash or credit card number? Well, typically with cash you'd have to have a meetup somehow and so they don't want to create that risk. And on a credit card that's much easier to trace and easier for the bank to shut down the money flowing to the scammer. Trinidad Gonzalez says she hopes her story will put others on high alert I hope it helps somebody Somebody who likes me thinks they're smart enough not to fall for it and to question things more because I didn't question anything

1:44:02 Yeah, this one that happened with Horowitz's I think his father-in-law. It wasn't his father's father in law The kid was in Tijuana. He had a grandson the kid was in Tijuana he just got busted and he's gotta get out of jail otherwise gonna have to spend a month into Tijuana prison or something along those lines Andrew's Kid? No, it's one of the kids. I don't know whose kid it was but it was one of the grandkids somewhere in the family. I don't have a map of it But it was one of these kids, everyone knows who it is. And he has to get this money to him immediately and so he went did the same thing same routine and gave, sent all his money meanwhile the kid is you know parked in Loveland Colorado or Fort Lauderdale or something he's home all the time now and nobody bothered to call him or say hey what do you know because he wasn't it wasn't in Mexico at

1:45:03 And so, of course now you have to eat crap for the rest of your life or being a sucker. But this apparently goes on and it's hit Andrew got is one of the people that are familiar with it. So people should know about this gift cards are dubious anyway. So what's when you're talking about? The one I'm talking about as you get an email and I get emails from Amazon. I still order some things through them. I'm really trying to curtail my purchases from Amazon evil corp So they'll send something about, oh get your Amazon gift card and it's something about the wording that is sophisticated. The wording even the return email address which is what you usually want to look at and I've gone so far as to load images on one of these because yeah I have my images turned off because that's how they track

1:45:53 One of the many ways they can track if you're if you read their mail and so, of course the minute I turned on The images and then like wait a minute. This isn't really from Amazon. I'd already signaled them that hey Here's a sucker send some more And you can keep changing the email address and you don't really want to block the word Amazon So it becomes a little complicated It's a good one though. Yeah, I know that I've seen this yeah as like a $50 gift card If you fill out their survey Where's this? Well, you log in with your Amazon credentials. Hello! Oh you don't want to do that. You don't actually get a gift card surprise surprise Earlier one of our producers in the donation segment talked about AOC Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and how stupid she is Idiot is the word he used. He said idiot or stupid? Idiot No, he said idiot

1:46:51 Well, I think she's going to be very big in our future. I've said this before and her Green New Deal is catching all kinds of steam if she made it the green nuke deal...I could actually get on board with that but I don't know if she'll... A nuke's bad? Nuke is bad according to the younger generation But this constant, I mean she is leading the charge of children who have been abused by their parents and by the media their parents consume. It's all around us and the message... And just reiterating for those of you who are new who can come to us from This Week in Tech that we're overlooking the children being told they're going to die

1:47:34 You have 10 more years before you die. The planet will be hell! Children in kindergarten are drawing pictures of the world as hell, a fiery hell and we're all dead and we're surprised by this so to get us into the child abuse which is as I see it abusing children to propagate this message and this is a real whammy This was at the end of the Poland climate summit This is the 15 year old Swedish girl. Just play that so you can hear the abuse that is taking place. Fifteen-year-old environmental activist from Sweden is scolding world leaders on what she says, is their failure to address climate change. Greta Thunberg addressed the Climate Change Summit wrapped up in Poland on Sunday and Saturday and she didn't hold back

1:48:22 She accused the negotiators from nearly 200 nations of abandoning young people and stealing their future by refusing to commit to measures that will truly halt global warming. You are not mature enough to tell it like it is, even that burden you leave us children but I don't care about being popular, I care about climate justice and the living planet Our civilization is being sacrificed for the opportunity of a very small number of people to continue making enormous amounts of money. Thunberg became a hero to many young environmentalists after she skipped school back in September, to protest climate change outside the Swedish Parliament. So this is... Hey! Yes? This is the girl I played the clip of last show. Yes! The show before. I know that's why I said to reiterate it's the key word

1:49:19 Now, so this type of abuse of this young girl which is being propagated onto her peer group and she's looking for climate justice which I love that she and she's looking for that has resulted in an affliction. And the affliction needs to be dealt with it is serious a lot of kids have it and it is called climate grief if you pay attention to climate change news these days... This is NBC? It's pretty distressing I don't know if i'm hopeful that we will avoid climate catastrophe. It seems like that window of time is rapidly closing. Climate catastrophe, another good one! Hold on, gotta write the climate catastrophe huh? Marcella Mulholland is 21 years old she's a college student from Orlando for a few years now she's been feeling angst over the climate choosing to be pay attention and to be aware in the world at this time is like a deeply painful daily exercise

1:50:18 and definitely anxious, like totally. Totally just really sad about the world that yeah now there's a name for what she's feeling climate grief climate grief is such a thing and I'm glad that they um there's a label for it now and people are working on how to process vocal fry out of your voice lady that's climate grief because it's so real. I asked Marcella when did she first feel climate grief? So the first time john John, when did you first feel climate grief? I felt it when i first saw him. I looked outside and there's a dead bird So the first time I became aware of like climate... Wow! What does that tell why is she laughing? That was interesting Did she yeah listen don't you again the question When did you first feel climate grief? I asked Marcella What did she first feel climate grief

1:51:15 So the first time I became aware of like climate change as like a severe existential threat to humanity and to all life on earth was my freshman year of college when i took sustainability class. There it is! You got it, you nailed it. You go to school and then they try to make you feel like your gonna die And I was really sad for a while. And I was just really mad that I had lived in the world for like 18 years and had never, like no one ever told me that we were rapidly going towards this catastrophe. Luckily... Now, I don't want to take away from this young lady's experience she may really be feeling that she clearly has climate grief

1:52:05 And there is a, they do have some solutions. There's ways you can deal with climate grief. Amy Lewis Rowe and Laura Schmidt are the founders of The Good Grief Network. They held the session at the conference on how to deal with climate grief before the session I asked Laura what exactly is climate grief? Climate grief is the gut punch that you feel when you realize that your imagined future may not exist anymore when you realized What we've done to the planet will not make tomorrow look like yesterday. I asked Amy what she hoped people would get out of this session tools and community and reminders that they're not alone

1:52:43 So is this the climate depression session? That's Kelton, one of the 17 people who showed up at the session. That sounds like you or me when we were young. Hey! Is this the climate depression session?! Me and Laura set up low to ground chairs in a circle in the grass In a circle The group was surrounded by tall trees and desert mountains sitting under clear blue sky not a cloud in sight It was incredibly quiet The only sound was a little bit of wind passing by. Yeah, that's how you go to the Good Grief Network and they take care of your climate grief and I think there is one last term we need to learn A couple years ago Amy and Laura started working on a 10-step program to deal with collective grief things like mass shootings and climate change Alright ten steps to psychosocial resilience Psychosocial resilience Holy moly What is that?

1:53:37 They shared their steps at the uplift session one Accept the problem and its severity to acknowledge that I am part of the problem as well As the solution now you're following along because this is gonna help you get through it. You're part of the problem She's part of the problem It's so sad with these children are being put through they had So this is the mantra that let's let's deconstruct them acknowledge that I am part of the problem That was the first one One accept the problem and its severity so the right off the bat. The severity is they're using that 12-step Yes, yes And so they're doing it with the first one is you have to accept that you're going to die existential problem to Acknowledge that I am part of the problem as well as the solution part of the problem

1:52:43 So is this the climate depression session? That's Kelton, one of the 17 people who showed up at the session. That sounds like you or me when we were young. Hey! Is this the climate depression session?! Me and Laura set up low to ground chairs in a circle in the grass In a circle The group was surrounded by tall trees and desert mountains sitting under clear blue sky not a cloud in sight It was incredibly quiet The only sound was a little bit of wind passing by. Yeah, that's how you go to the Good Grief Network and they take care of your climate grief and I think there is one last term we need to learn A couple years ago Amy and Laura started working on a 10-step program to deal with collective grief things like mass shootings and climate change Alright ten steps to psychosocial resilience Psychosocial resilience Holy moly What is that?

1:53:37 They shared their steps at the uplift session one Accept the problem and its severity to acknowledge that I am part of the problem as well As the solution now you're following along because this is gonna help you get through it. You're part of the problem She's part of the problem It's so sad with these children are being put through they had So this is the mantra that let's let's deconstruct them acknowledge that I am part of the problem That was the first one One accept the problem and its severity so the right off the bat. The severity is they're using that 12-step Yes, yes And so they're doing it with the first one is you have to accept that you're going to die existential problem to Acknowledge that I am part of the problem as well as the solution part of the problem

1:54:27 Man step three practice sitting with uncertainty Practice sitting with uncertainty these are life skills here at four confront my own mortality and the mortality of all five feel my feelings John I feel my feelings do you feel my feelings? How do you not feel your feelings? Six do inner work step seven do inner Inner work is working on yourself John, working on your mental health. Meditate is what it means. Take breaks and rest as needed. Ah there it is! Luckily we can take some breaks and rest when we need to. I've thought about this over most of my life. I've thought about this idea of taking breaks and resting you know like going to bed

1:55:17 Yeah, I think it's a pretty good idea. It should be on the list But this is more when needed so you can say I'm sorry. I need to stop working right now Uh, I need a little break I need a psych... You nailed it, that's exactly what this is. More of the noodle boy stuff Yes! I need a social psycho social resilience break Excuse me? Excuse me? Yes yes What do you need the rest for what's the problem? I just needed..I have my inner feelings and understand myself and i know when I need to break and as I'm telling myself in internally inside myself saying to myself I need a break so I need a break

1:55:56 Step 7 take breaks and rest as needed step 8 develop awareness of brain patterns and perception brain pattern Develop Step 8 develop awareness of brain patterns and perception develop awareness of brain patterns and perception that's deep It's it's inane, it's okay go on nine nine show up Show up ten reinvest into problem-solving efforts Wow This is a 10 step program for morons. I Give you a clip of the day by the way Oh

1:56:46 Oh, thank you. I thought it was a nice little collection of... This is Made the Show! Clip of the Day! Wooo! Foam finger number one baby! Made The Show! Now what's the thing? I was thinking about this as you were starting this thing and your gonna continue i'm sure No no But I'm thinking about the child abuse thing is when you have these, I never thought about it quite like this one as I'm going to express. So you have these kindergartners and first graders drawing the little stick figures with their crayons of the world on fire and then for some reason how did they get this idea in the first place? And then you take the picture say look

1:55:56 Step 7 take breaks and rest as needed step 8 develop awareness of brain patterns and perception brain pattern Develop Step 8 develop awareness of brain patterns and perception develop awareness of brain patterns and perception that's deep It's it's inane, it's okay go on nine nine show up Show up ten reinvest into problem-solving efforts Wow This is a 10 step program for morons. I Give you a clip of the day by the way Oh

1:56:46 Oh, thank you. I thought it was a nice little collection of... This is Made the Show! Clip of the Day! Wooo! Foam finger number one baby! Made The Show! Now what's the thing? I was thinking about this as you were starting this thing and your gonna continue i'm sure No no But I'm thinking about the child abuse thing is when you have these, I never thought about it quite like this one as I'm going to express. So you have these kindergartners and first graders drawing the little stick figures with their crayons of the world on fire and then for some reason how did they get this idea in the first place? And then you take the picture say look

1:57:28 Even the little kids are saying, the world is a horrible place. It's going to be burnt to the ground because of climate change! We've gotta do something for the children!" It's really sick. That's exactly what's happening and parents have zero realization of the harm they're doing and Al Gore up front Oh, Al Gore's the worst. He's a demon! I mean it used to be you saw the sad little polar bear and kids could kind of get into that even though the polar bear can swim very well doesn't need the little piece ice... Doesn't need ice and the polar bear population has increased substantially Yes, so popular right-wing trope

1:58:08 It is a white right-wing trope. But that— Alt-right trope, there you go. Alt-right. Trope! But now we changed it to — in particular this last report with the — We have 10 years before we die and that's the way its being interpreted even though that's not even what it says That has really pushed these kids over over the the tipping point and as we heard in the clip they all learn about this and all Become afflicted with climate grief once they hit college where they're taught you're going to die Unbelievable what college was this that I don't know. Yeah, I don't know You know in a good college well at least when I was a kid in a good university The kids are pretty smart

1:58:58 And they question authority, or they used to. I don't think they do much anymore. They just...I dunno maybe they're just stoned. John this climate stuff has been rammed in and how many if you question climate change you deny it? You're basically denying the Holocaust! Where were you where all this has been taking place?! This is-you cannot question science in! How many times do we have to tell the children this!? That's okay if you want to believe and we believe in all kinds of crazy science like we went to the moon in 1965. You're muddying your own water My point is when you tell the children, you're going to die from something because nothing has been done about it that's a whole next level stuff

1:59:42 And that's where we're at today, and it's going to affect... It's affecting children. The joke of it to me and I think in some ways to you and everybody that listens to the show is nuclear energy. Yeah! Now, it's a technology that yeah... You've...I was thinking about this for possibly another book that I'm not gonna write Most every technology that ever shows up is always dangerous when it first shows up. I mean steam all technology All technologies steam is a good example They were blowing up boilers people were dying left and right from boiler explosions from the 1800's throughout the 1800's And it took a long time to tame the the steam demon

2:00:26 Yeah, nuke was not very safe the way it was being handled by General Electric and some of these other guys. But all those problems have been solved including the waste! Yeah everything has been solved so you could use... It's the cleanest form of energy and if you're all in on climate change Don't have a problem with somebody who's all in on climate change, but what the problem I have is that they're all in our climate change Why aren't they all in on? nuclear energy because This was another great campaign. It started with The China Syndrome and Three Mile Island lovely plans right within a week of each other with Hollywood We are all going to die from nuclear

2:01:09 China Syndrome was a fictional story. Yeah, and it was released in the same week that Three Mile Island happened. Well I don't know if that's absolutely true... Yes it is! It IS true we've even discussed this on the show and I think you said the same thing oh no it was like it was like within three days every time I heard that yes within three with him very good yeah it was You know, but if you look at all of the nuclear disasters we've had and Chernobyl I think really is the worst because that was a military-grade installation which exploded. But it's not that many people died in the low 20s. Of course! The entire country of France is run by us a whole string

2:01:58 nuclear power plants. They're all over the place and they bitch about them, nobody's died from any of them they haven't had any problems or their low they're not the highest you know most efficient but there were the ones that are the most practical and they're gonna shut those down because of these idiots. Yeah Macron has already announced that Yeah, we're gonna start dismantling. Well Germany did the same? Oh Germany did and their cost of energy was skyrocketing in economies who actually went into a kind of flatlined

2:02:34 Yep, no instead we're going to get projects that test aerosols in the air and let's see if we can Reflect the Sun in their back. And so we it doesn't warm up here and you know chemtrails basically The geo-engineering It's those I got stuff into showing us people who look at go watch the movie Snowpiercer That's where it ends up there you go Let's see, one last thing. Wait I got a couple let me get this out of the way because we're talking about scammers i forgot about this one um this was a...this is that this is whatever happened to you have a new thing on the show? I have another one mine is whatever happened to okay you know like these are clips from like two three four five years ago that were scandalous things and

2:03:30 I'm asking whatever happened to they don't even talk about this stuff anymore. Let's do charity fraud for US cancer charities are being accused of massive fraud The Federal Trade Commission says the group's funneled some hundred eighty seven million dollars into top officials pockets The charities are the Cancer Fund of America Cancer Support Services Children's Cancer Fund of America and the Breast Cancer Society It could be one of the largest charity fraud cases of all time Whatever happened, whatever happens not only 15. What ever happened nothing no follow up it here's another one Here's another whatever happened this bank scandal

2:04:10 bank scandal. Or down right before the end of the closing day so they're actually able to manipulate the currency markets this is actually an antitrust case, these banks are guilty of colluding to manipulate the foreign exchange market and it's very rare that you see a financial institution that actually has to plead guilty to any charges much less in anti-trust charge So it sounds as if there's no question people involved knew what they were doing was wrong was illegal. What about higher-ups, Keri Giger? Did they know what was going on and if they didn't why not? Well I mean this calls into the question of basically how banks compliance works and these Wall Street banks are huge giant operations and it looks like that the senior executive at these banks did not know this activity is going on. I'm sure if they did it would have been stopped because they obviously don't want any legal activity happening

2:05:05 in their banks. But the larger problem is that it's become virtually impossible, as we've seen over the last couple years with all these enforcement actions against Wall Street to police every individual that's working in these banks." Oh we just can't do that! We can't police everybody now only for stupid slaves at home we can police you yeah whatever happened to it nothing That's the answer by the way as I continue this series. Yes, that will be the answer to all of them I will have my answer ready for your series and look forward to it and Before we take our break to thank some people here a word about And you this is another thing you always put in the in the newsletter, but I don't think we discuss it regularly or yeah regular enough

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2:18:57 Now, I don't want to blame this on the flu shot but man that sucks. Yeah yeah just blame it on the flu shot. Just saying one of those things. Tamiflu people tamiflu and there was an update to an old friend of ours The Smith-Munt Act well let's put it this way there's an update in news around it And The Smith-Munt Act uh was brought in what was brought in the 80s? And what the Smith-Munt act basically said is as law, the United States government may not propagandize its own people. So it's okay if you have Voice of America overseas and you're broadcasting propaganda to Russia and China or wherever we have all the VOA stations, but you can't do it to your American audience now It is true that no matter what If Americans saw it because they sought it out themselves that was deemed okay But now there is a congressional issue

2:20:01 it appears Voice of America, which is completely funded by the US government the Broadcast Board of Governors is violating the Smith-Mundt Act and I interesting because I've seen this and didn't even hit me but luckily Someone in Congress doing something about it. And has turned it over to the Attorney General they have been advertising on face bag about their voice of America services and actually they pulled out the You know, there was a request for all of the ads that they've purchased on Facebook and they're targeting them at Americans in American states by American age ranges and They're in trouble now. I don't know what kind of trouble they're gonna get him but at least it's being raised Yeah, the troubles is slap on their wrist mmm questionable content recent Voice of America as run in the Democratic Republic of Congo mm-hmm

2:21:00 Promote it and promote the show. I can just stop there, you know enough yet no enough is how it works and even though was repealed in 2012 as a part of the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act you still even though if you find that on the Internet's okay but your not okay for them to be targeting Americans to read this so violation Oh, I have. There was a they're talking about on Democracy Now! They were talking about Mattis poor guy and then Shanahan took over but instead of putting it in a positive spin

2:21:43 Of course, they won't do that. It's the positive spin which we would put it in which is now you got a guy who has big shot from Boeing right that can maybe do an audit and maybe get to the bottom of the Pentagon budget. Yeah maybe do some important stuff like cyber satellites and missiles There are million possibilities that are positive but no democracy now doesn't see things that way and I want you let's start with When I say talk to you about Boeing, what do you think mostly? They make giant passenger planes. That's what most people would think of yes. Yeah okay well let's play this clip Mattis Shanahan Boeing The break for the richest Americans and President Trump says he was improving the economy and now the stock market has plummeted back to the depression times

2:22:28 explain well you know we've had an economy that never really is the wrong one it's one no you playing Richard Wolff dn1 I'm sorry what did you tell me to play Madis Shanahan oh my god i'm so sorry Here we go. We'll take it again from the top after growing increasingly angry with his defense chief, Trump said Mattis will leave on January 1st. He'd previously been expected to retire at the end of February to attend a NATO meeting. Patrick Shanahan will become acting secretary of defense. Shanahan is a former executive at the U.S. weapons manufacturer Boeing.

2:23:11 Why didn't you say aerospace and defense which would be the actual term? Yeah, no weapons man. You're a killing machine maker Yes Judy no what's her name Amy Amy yes Amy Amy that with the permanent vocal fry in case she missed it That's our number one foam finger industry killing machines Yep it is So she brought on this economist from one of the schools, and he's a Trump hater. And this is where there's a clip you just played before. The guy makes an assertion about if you were Trump, you wouldn't even pass Economics 101, which isn't fine but I want to play two clips from him where I don't think he could pass it either. Let's start with this clip 1. The break for the richest American?

2:24:05 And President Trump says he was improving the economy, and now the stock market has plummeted back to the Depression times. Explain. Well you know we've had an economy that never really escaped the crash of 2008 In a way, the last 10 years have been an economy on life support. Vast amounts of money pumped into the economy record drops in interest rates inviting everybody business individuals governments to borrow money A debt sustained situation and after awhile you can't mount up the debt on the basis of an economy that hasn't really gotten going And we're seeing the eventual break

2:24:47 You know, the capitalist system has a downturn every four to seven years. It's had that for centuries and the last big downturn was 2008 and nine so if you do four in seven you edit the nine we're due for one on every major stock market It's like conspiracy theory stuff. You add the 3 to the 1 times 5, you get 33! He says you have a downturn every 4-7 years. That's almost double. And if you look at 2009 and you add four plus seven... He just threw that in there he just makes it up

2:25:26 What? You don't add the numbers. It's four or seven, yeah So let's play it out so you have his assertion about not passing economics one centuries and the last big downturn was 2008 and nine so if you do four and seven you edit to nine we're due for one and every major stock market observer bank And so on predicts that were having a downturn so it's really only a question of exactly when, and the stock market anticipates this. And so we're having in a way economic chickens coming home to roost and the notion that it's just the Feds policy that explains this is really the kind of remark that would get a student at very low grade in any economics course

2:26:12 So you'd get a low grade, because I guess maybe it's math that he would get the lowest grade. Yeah, kind of lower grade yeah. But he does have an economics issue with the next clip which i think is just even better. Richard why if over the last 10 years the Federal Reserve kept interest rates so low and provided so much cheap money? And why has inflation increased dramatically in the US over this period time? Well, you know the irony is it's one of the bizarre ways an economy works. There was no incentive to take all that money and go in and produce things that might have driven up prices and so on What? If you produce things You would put a glut it would reduce prices It wouldn't push prices up and such

2:27:02 Who is this guy? This guy's Richard Wolfe, W-O-L-F-E. And he is like an economist at one of the schools back east and it's like everything he says is like that. It's like... Nobody knows! It's like it's back to our era. No, but I'm talking about basic economic theory that you're taught in college. Yeah supply and demand yes That's a supply increases the price goes down not doesn't go up Not in his book and such which is another thing that you by the way such and such I think we just add that to everything and such and such You can just end the end of sentence listen. I'm not having any of this and such Such and such

2:27:51 Adios mofos and such yeah, it works everywhere. You can put it in everything Yeah, that's great It's one of the best yeah the mark live-in the radio guy he always says and so on and so forth you would say yeah this is This pillows got feathers and so on and so forth and such And I think if the combos and so on and so forth and such I think the combo is the way to go All right Maybe get a job at radio Dogs are people too. Yes, we have a lot of dogs Britain United Kingdom Gitmo Nation East is now forbidding puppies and kittens from being sold by pet shops What? Yes the government said it will roll out the legislation next year

2:28:40 There's a 95% support for the ban. Here we have a quote, this will mean... 95 percent support? Yes! This will mean that anyone looking to buy or adopt a puppy or kitten under six months must either deal directly with the breeder or with an animal rehoming center Animal Rehoming? Yes, it's a great show title. Animal Rehoming Center with RE and such the Department of Environment Food and Rural Affairs DEFRA said this on Sunday as part of its Christmas animal welfare push yes that's too much these you know people want to dog a puppy in a kitten they don't really want it and they get abused and they toss them out and then get mistreated

2:29:24 This does give me the opportunity to have a generality. Well, that's what they I can't hate the Brits I did want to say one thing is we're you know a couple months away from moving out of downtown Austin for number of reasons. You're planning to leave downtown probably the one of the nexus, a nexus point in the universe and your living it and your gonna leave it? Well im not going move that far just need to get out of downtown two reasons, two big reasons This building, just to keep in with the dogs or people too is what is known as a pet friendly building. And it's something you don't want well I think that when they when did you start? You have a building like this and you make it smoke-free pet friendly... you probably expect there to be people with dogs yeah but today

2:30:20 We I think we have about 70% of the apartments in this building have dogs Okay, usually more than one. Oh The problem is because the dog needs a friend the problem is every day Everywhere every entrance every exit for the garage to the elevators everywhere there's hair and dog piss Everywhere and of course they don't clean Every single day. It's also not Feasible really to do that so the dogs are because the pet owners are becoming a problem Because they did I mean it's really disgusting. I'll do a video. We'll do a video. Oh, yeah would be fantastic Yes everywhere its link to it in the newsletter Yes, I'll make sure you get that The other problem has just been upped once again on

2:31:16 is the dockless mobility craze that Austin is ground zero. You're right, we're at the nexus now the Ford Motor Company who have Spin a ride share company dropped 100 extra scooters into the Austin streets on Friday with hundreds more planned! Geez, a scooter overload How many do you think we have in downtown Austin now today? 10,000 Wow, 9000. The City of Austin allows each... This is from KXAN our local NBC affiliate. The City of Austin allows each rideshare company to have up to 500 scooters in the downtown area but there's no limit on how many companies can operate in the city as a result they're about nine thousand scooters licensed to operate in downtown Austin operated by seven major companies which sounds kind of wrong

2:32:11 It doesn't sound right. The math isn't work if you're allowed to have 500 yes, you'll only be 3500 scooters right but there's 9000 now downtown and yesterday I threw my first I cast my first one aside in anger because I'm pretty I'm pretty mellow But it was right in the middle of the sidewalk And I've been you know now there's a Torchies that's opened up near our building You know which is at upscale shitty tacos It's a taco place. A taco place in Texas that's a chain? Oh yeah, oh we have tons of chains here. Yeah Torchies and so someone rode the torch in the lunch hour parked it right in the middle of the sidewalk I picked it up by its stem and threw it in anger against the wall of torches And I felt... interestingly I felt pretty good about it but they all have these wires and I got to study them

2:33:06 Our friend. Yeah, our friend who does this I'm just gonna carry along a clipper Just clip the wires Oh that's a funny idea Not if it's the brake... I don't know which... Well on the brake line you can figure that out Find out what wire you want to clip It should be some electrical thing We gotta clip something because its a scourge Anyway Yay! Yay Austin! Wooo So you're moving to where though? You're downtown in the nexus of all the action. There's dog pee, probably poop at the libraries nearby. A lot of poop. The library is right nearby filled with homeless under the brand new bridge between the extension of downtown and the westward extension there's a footbridge, bicycle bridge... So it really is turning into California. Completely! Completely! California Uberalas

2:34:02 So where are you moving? We're gonna stay in Austin just out of downtown. So, are you looking now did you find a place yet? Well since we'll be renting... Why don't you buy us a piece of property outside the town? With what with what John with what That's your good looks. Yeah, I think you get credit. I have a FICO score in the 500s No never mind. Yeah Tina barely wants to marry me because of it She's afraid that her FICO score of 9000 will be affected see she could get anything she wants It's me that's the problem Well let her do this preliminary work and then get married after what are we gonna? Don't want

2:34:40 I don't want a house. I wanna be able to get out when it gets too bad. Instead of Quonset hut? Yeah, with your Quonset Hut... Listen we're in our 50s neither of us is gonna make this as an investment yeah oh let's invest have you seen the property taxes it's worse than California now so California has all moved to Austin! Get outta here The weather is better in Austin Yeah, good luck in your happy hunting. We'll find something we'll find something good I mean we don't need much and will definitely it'll be cheaper for sure Well that's a plus Austin is I think now the most expensive city to live in It's ridiculous Yes, it is ridiculous once you two move to New York City yeah, it's worth considering I mean that you can move anywhere and then maybe but it's not just the cost You know it's a douchebaggery That's the problem yeah well

2:35:40 I think you're adapting to the Texas lifestyle. Yeah, yes! I don't want my Texas lifestyle tainted by California goo. Yeah well... or dogs I have one last question. Japan begins whaling again, and that is a story we need to follow. Yeah, I saw big headlines about it. Japan says it will quit the International Whaling Commission and resume commercial whale hunting for the first time in 30 years. Japanese officials say whale stocks have recovered sufficiently something wildlife groups dispute The new hunts will be limited to Japan's territorial waters and will not extend into Antarctica No! Okay?

2:36:23 So, so that's their own water. Yeah they can do whatever they want I think so what are they use the what is it besides that oh its sad we're killing whales? What is the...what is so important about whaling? They use to fat and some of a lot other cosmetics okay and they eat the meat And they don't care are there our whales in are they in extinction mode The Japanese claim they're they're back on track to Propagating and the whaling authorities say no, they're not so we don't know the facts. Okay It does make a lot of people hate Japanese again well yeah it does European Union Parliament member forget her name Reese I think her name is is on a mission

2:37:19 to get rid of the use of single-use plastics. This is a European Union mandate that will be coming down the pike to all the national, at the national state level. You will not be able to purchase or consume single-use plastics." She explains what she means and what that means here but the kicker is at the end... The effort to end plastic pollution in our oceans was one of the key themes of 2018 with European Union lawmakers ending the year with an agreement to ban certain single use plastics by 2021 Belgian MEP Frederic Ries is behind the law. The balloon sticks, the stirrers, the cotton buds, the straws I should have started with the straws, the plates are going to be banned and why are they going to be banned? Because there are articles that you mostly find on our beaches in our oceans and because there are alternatives

2:38:15 A central issue in the single-use plastic ban is who is going to pay. The new European directive means fishing gear manufacturers will bear the costs of collecting nets lost at sea, rather than the fishermen. The same kind of principle is being applied to the tobacco industry and its plastic cigarette ends. An estimated 8 million tonnes of plastic waste end up in the oceans every year. The EU's ban is significant in terms of setting a policy precedent But it won't change the seas very much as 90% of the plastic pollution is believed to come from 10 rivers, 8 in Asia and 2 in Africa. Wow! We are so stupid in the West

2:38:56 So Africa is a great clip. Africa is polluting the water with single-use plastics and we get blamed for it, and we get shamed into using a straw. We have to give them money for global warming. Oh my goodness! You know what? We're moving to Africa. I'm gonna find one of those elite strongholds where the European leaders are all hanging out, we're gonna go live there it's going to be safe and beautiful. Yeah you can pee in the rivers and throw your stuff out the window. You can get it in California. Here Dvorak! Here is my straw My goodness. Yeah, I don't know if I can top that. I do have a way to talk with the weather report which because a lot of people I guess I'm surprised we got kind of great donations We got because of these blizzards God the Blizzard's they'd become we had a big storm last night in Austin yeah, I heard that I was looking at the map They're showing that the Blizzard's report came out and I saw Austin Surrounded by a giant red like a dome right yes right downtown and it woke us up

2:39:54 And woke us up and then you got flash boom right a crackling boom so it was right over downtown Millions of Americans could have trouble getting home after Christmas. A powerful winter storm is blowing across the country Parts of the plains and Midwest will get the worst of it blizzard conditions are possible in The Dakotas tonight Powerful winds floods, and even tornadoes could hit this southwest what no mention of climate change Well, I was it wasn't fire fire that guy or fire that guy It's no good. Yeah, you gotta have your climate change in that All right everybody that is your deconstruction for this 27th of December 2018 winding down the year No retrospectives no lookbacks just whatever happened to us and we'll do another brand new fresh episode for you on Sunday just before

2:40:52 We say goodbye to the year and everyone else in media is hanging at home doing nothing. They're having parties, we're working for you And we appreciate everyone who continues to contribute to the Value for Value system and network. Remember us at dvorak.org slash NA Coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas while I'm still here capital of the drone star state in the 5x9 Cluedio in the common law condo In The Morning everybody! I am Adam Curry... ...and from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm still laughing at these garbage cans these people put out Because they don't have email. I'm John C. Dvorak We return on Sunday right here on NOAgenda Until then, adios mofos! And such... And such... Strunk and Jingled take 33

2:41:50 Drunk and jingles for no agenda Fa la la la la, la la la la While we're on a three day bender Fa la la la la, la la la la Drink too much and fall down flat Fa la la la la, la la la la Then call on in to nick the rat Fa la la la la, la la la la I think that's just like... Okay, I'll be another way. It would just be somebody walking down the street and you get their phone there. Hey man what's that there? Oh do do oh do do oh do do oh do do hey man hey man hey man what's that there? Hey man hey man

2:43:18 Hi, I'm here to take your order. What is that? Holy what is that?! Uh uh uh uh uh... Hi, I'm here to take your order. Uh oh my! What is that!? It's pronounced Jeth according to the guy who invented the word. Yes it's pronounced Jitty according to the guy who invented the word. Al Sharpton Democrats are outright jitties

2:45:05 They got all jitty with it. Jitty. They're getting jitty. Getting jitty. Getting all jitty. Jitty. They got all jitty with it. All jitty about a shutdown! The wall... What does it take for you to realize that we need more money? The wall. We're going to have a shutdown, there's nothing we can do about that. Many times I've called for I will shut down the government if i don't get my wall. None of us have said... You want to know something? You've said it! Okay, you wanna put that on my... You've said it! I'll take this. Okay. The wall. Wall

2:45:50 The wall. I am proud to shut down the government. The wall. Thanks, Beyonce