Episode 1074 · Friday, 5 October 2018

Boo You

Journalistic objectivity collapses at the National Press Club as technical glitches plague the national emergency alert system and California mandates corporate board diversity.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1074

About this episode

The nationwide Presidential Alert system test faced significant technical failures as many mobile users, including those on Lake Travis and across major carrier networks, reported never receiving the emergency notification. The breakdown highlights critical gaps in the 911-chip integration for newer devices during a week where the State Department also issued a Level 2 travel advisory for the Netherlands following a disrupted terrorist plot. Meanwhile, the New York Times released a massive investigation into the Trump family’s historical tax filings, though the report faces scrutiny for using inflation-adjusted figures to characterize the President’s inheritance from Fred Trump.

Veteran journalist Ted Koppel confronted CNN’s Brian Stelter at the National Press Club, asserting that the network’s financial viability depends entirely on Donald Trump’s presidency. Koppel’s critique of the death of journalistic objectivity coincided with Marvin Kalb’s controversial comparison of the President to historical dictators. In California, Governor Jerry Brown signed a mandate requiring women on corporate boards, while local voters weigh Proposition 6 to repeal the gas tax. Silicon Valley professionals report a stifling political climate where conservative views are increasingly silenced in the workplace, even as the Army Futures Command brings 16 billion dollars in tech investment to Austin.

Senator Lindsey Graham adopted a new aggressive persona during the Brett Kavanaugh hearings, mocking the media’s focus on 1983 high school letters and the mysterious nickname Bart. The University of Manchester made headlines by banning clapping in favor of BSL-style jazz hands to accommodate sensory sensitivities, a move that critics argue ignores the needs of the visually impaired. This episode also features the knighting of Roderick Velo and a look at the rare brain-eating amoeba case in Waco, Texas.


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CHAPTER 01 / 47 Discussion

Presidential Alert System Test Failures

The hosts discuss the recent nationwide test of the Presidential Alert system, noting that many people, including themselves and their family members, did not receive the notification. Technical requirements for the "911 chip" in newer phones are explored as a reason for the failure. One host recounts a weekend on Lake Travis with a former New York banker who did receive the alert on his boat.

presidential alert· fems· nokia e71· samsung galaxy· wireless emergency alerts

00:00 This is a disgrace. Honoring Charles Aznavour, because no one else will. And broadcasting live from the Capitol at the door of Star State here in downtown Austin, Tejas in the Cluedio. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm still waiting for my call from the President, I'm John C. DeVore. Well if you're waiting for a call then you can wait a long time. You were supposed to get a text message not a call. I got nothing. I didn't get anything. It wasn't a text it was a notification. Yes, I didn't get one either.

00:44 Well Jay didn't get one, Nick didn't get one, Mimi got one. Okay, I'm on the Nokia E71 so I wasn't really expecting one to be quite honest. Apparently there's supposed to be some, it's called a 911 chip or something like that in the phone, it's like the newer phones. Yeah, don't have it. But Jay has a 911 phone and she didn't get a... Well, what does she have? What kind of phone does she have? Like a... just like a Samsung Galaxy or Samsung 8 or 7 Galaxy. It's a high-end phone. She has a SIM card in it? She has a... I don't know what the hell she's got in it. All I know is a new phone. I mean, does she use it as a telephone? It has an actual... Yeah, she uses it as a telephone. Cellular connection? She uses it for messaging and other things. Well, that's a fail then.

01:32 It's a total fail. Well, she's part of the OTG crew. That's very good. Well, I couldn't quite decide whether it's good or not that I don't get a presidential alert. The former New York banker got one. We were on his boat yesterday. Oh, yeah. Dragging each other through Lake Travis again with ABBA blasting, shirts off, wake surfing. I'm almost there. I don't even want to go. I'll make no comment about it. What about wake surfing? Oh, yeah. What do you on this big boat under this little lake and oh, it's not a little lake. Excuse me. Is it as big as Lake Berryessa?

CHAPTER 02 / 47 Discussion

Tesla Stock Shorts and the Decline of American Sedans

A discussion regarding a financial short on Tesla stock leads to an analysis of the automotive market's shift away from sedans. Reference is made to Ford's decision to discontinue most sedan models in favor of crossovers and SUVs. The conversation touches on the history of car culture, including bench seats and "necker's knobs," contrasting it with modern preferences for utility vehicles.

tesla· elon musk· model 3· ford· suv· sedans

02:15 If I knew what it was, you should go look at Lake Travis. It's this long. It's not necessarily very wide enough. But they got cigarette boats out there. Alright, you're in one of those moods. Fine. It's okay. So, tell us more about with the banker. You must have grilled him about something, unless you were in the drink the whole time. No, we drank afterwards. But yes, of course, of course. Number one thing, he says, I say, how's that Tesla short? Did you get out when it dropped on the weed smoking? He said, no, no. He said, I had a rule in there. If it dropped below, I guess, 259, then half of his position would be sold. It didn't go that low. But he says,

02:59 It's still beautiful. January, and here's why, he says, read the news. Everyone's saying Tesla's Model 3, America's best-selling sedan. He says that's the death knell right now. It's because sedans aren't selling. It's the only sedan that people are buying. Everyone's buying SUVs. Well, this is a good point because Ford actually dropped all of its sedans in its favor of these Crossovers. Yeah, he says you know this this he says these are all people who are fans and really wanted one There's no demand for sedans. He says so he's pretty confident that his January I think we should stop here and and explore this a little bit besides the Tesla thing Which is what happened to the demand for sedans? Why don't doesn't be when I was a kid? Oh here we go we used to have these we used to have these the cars were bigger and

03:52 And I'll say a lot bigger. Yeah. Two door or four door. And they had they had bench seats. They did not have that's right. You had three in the three in the back in the sedan because the charm of the bench seat was when you're on a date, the girl could sit right next to you. Then you only if you had a neckers knob on your steering wheel. Remember those? What the suicide knob? Well, in my parts we call it the neckers knob so you could have one arm around your girl on the bench and steer with that knob on the steering wheel with your left hand. The neckers knob. Anyway, you'd have the arm around the girl and then you'd go to drive-in theaters, you'd have a lot of fun with these types of cars. But then they got the bucket seats and then with the counsel in the middle of the stick shift. Yes, that was a thing, the bucket seats. AM radio. How do you even put your arm around anyone if they're over there stuck and they can't, you know, it would be like they'd kill themselves if they got in the middle. They ruined car culture.

04:55 It's just something to that thesis. I don't know what it was, but it did ruin car culture. I don't know why sedans aren't selling other than what you just mentioned. SUVs, it's kind of been sold as, you know… It's what every American needs, you know, because we all know that... You don't handle as well. Even a sedan handles better than an SUV. We all know at the drop of a hat, you know, you can be out of a job in America, you can be tossed out. You need to move, pile up the SUV or SUVs. Dogs love it because you don't have kids. That's true. Dogs like SUVs. Actually, someone sent me a... This was from a law enforcement officer.

CHAPTER 04 / 47 Discussion

State Department Travel Advisory for the Netherlands

The U.S. State Department issued a Level 2 travel advisory for the Netherlands, urging increased caution due to potential terrorist plots. The advisory follows the arrest of seven individuals allegedly planning a major attack. The hosts apply "No Agenda thinking," suggesting that the period immediately following a disrupted plot is actually the safest time to travel.

netherlands· state department· travel advisory· terrorism· amsterdam

06:39 Every country's going downhill the Netherlands. Oh my goodness Big warning from the State Department travel advisory What for the Netherlands for the Netherlands of all places? Yes, I shall read this advisory to you from travel.state.gov Netherlands travel advisory level to exercise increased caution we gotta do that Level 2, Level 2, exercise increased, caution, caution. Terrorists continue plotting possible attacks in the Netherlands. Terrorists may attack with little or no warning, targeting tourist locations, transportation hubs, markets, shopping malls, local government facilities, hotels, clubs, restaurants, places of worship, parks, major sporting and cultural events, educational institutions, airports and other public areas. Woohoo! Can't wait to go back.

07:36 Huh, I wonder what they know that we don't. Well, they just had the, they just rolled up those seven guys who were planning a major attack. Well, this sounds to me like the time to go. They're not going to attack after that. This is always backwards. You notice this when you went to France after they did an attack. Yeah, this is the no agenda thinking. Absolutely. Yeah. No, I'm in total agreement. When nothing's going on, that's when you got to be careful. Yeah. Okay, so there's plenty of stuff to talk about, thank goodness. Some of it... Not that I watched cable news... What votes going on today? You're monitoring them? Monitoring the vote? Is this the Kavanaugh vote? Yeah. We'll see.

CHAPTER 05 / 47 Discussion

Christine Blasey Ford Voice Parody

A voiceover actress performs a parody of Dr. Christine Blasey Ford's testimony during the Brett Kavanaugh Supreme Court hearings. The segment mocks the use of "vocal fry" and the youthful tone of the doctor's voice despite her professional standing.

christine blasey ford· brett kavanaugh· vocal fry· voice acting· scotus

08:21 See monitor we should have some maybe some info by the end of the show well. I let me see I do have some scotus Kavanaugh related, so I mean there's there's all kinds of oh well before we go on just start with a little bit of humor Oh, this was that woman. I told you about who's a voiceover actress I can remember her name offhand, but she's a voiceover act is doing the voice of Ford the sound alike. And she sounds like her, but she got nothing but grief for doing this. Didn't she do voiceover for Star Wars? Yeah, she's a voice actress. And she does this voice, and I thought she nails it, but she got grief, you know, because nobody can make, you know, oh my God. I don't know if anybody is listening to the Dr. Blasey Ford testimony about Brett Kavanaugh, but

09:14 This is how I sound. I know it's a surprise to even me that I talk this way and I'm a doctor and a grown woman. I sound like I'm still back at that high school party. I can't help it. I just have this kind of a voice, like a baby, even though I'm a doctor and I'm on this media circus, political stage, and I have kids myself. I don't know why I speak with vocal fry, but you can listen to my testimony and hear that.

CHAPTER 06 / 47 Discussion

New York Times Investigation into Trump Family Taxes

The New York Times published a massive investigative report alleging that Donald Trump participated in dubious tax schemes and outright fraud to inherit wealth from his father, Fred Trump. The hosts criticize the New York Times' audio presentation of the story, specifically the use of jazz drums and "vocal fry" narration. They argue the report uses inflation-adjusted numbers to exaggerate the wealth transferred to Trump during his childhood.

donald trump· fred trump· new york times· tax evasion· real estate

10:00 A grown woman sounds this way. Dr. Blasey Ford, thank you. Well if we're gonna take that particular track, fine. I don't know why the New York Times does this. I think they should stick to reporting and you know you can do your... just stick to making a newspaper. No, they've got to do audio and video. I don't know who decided to produce this clip from the New York Times, NYTimes.com website. This is about Trump and he's really, he didn't make it on himself, his dad gave him all this money and they dodged taxes. I have a really good summary of that, yeah. This story was too funny. Well, wait until you hear the New York Times

10:43 audio version of this. In 1995, Donald Trump and his siblings began to take ownership of most of their father's real estate empire while avoiding hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes. It's semi so by creating two grant or retained annuity trusts, also known as grads, one for dad and one for mom. taxes are paid based on the final value of the grout and this gave the trumps every incentive to lowball the value of the assets that's exactly what they did Take for instance the Fontainebleau Apartments. In 1982, the Trumps valued the 164-unit complex at $15.3 million. What is with the jazz drums? What are they thinking? They got jazz drums, she's talking in a bucket, she's semi-fry. Is that a woman? Yes! They said it was worth just $2.9 million. They then broke up the ownership of the apartment

11:42 I don't think so. I think it's a woman. built row houses and owned a couple of apartment buildings. Empire. I mean, Empire. Has iron fisted control over every brick of his empire for 70 years. Was a minority owner with no real say over his buildings. I can't listen to it anymore. But that's just that is the New York Times today. Yeah, somebody with vocal fry guy, woman. I don't know what that was, what sex it was. It doesn't matter when you fry that hard. Could have been anything. I'm sorry. Could have been any of 60. But

12:30 You got the newsletter, you saw a picture of the house that he owned and he raised the Trump family in. It's a middle class place in the Queens of all places. You can't become an empire builder in Queens. Do you have a jazz drum there by any chance? You got your jazz drum? My bongos are downstairs. I could actually really make it sound good. Here's a news flash for you. So this guy, you know, they made him out to be a billionaire giving 400 million, giving it to Trump and other... Oh, by the way, I love the continuous, that's 5 billion in today's dollars. They keep adding the inflation numbers to make it sound good. It was 3 million, but that's $800,000 billion in today's dollars.

13:18 So this was like the most blown up and everybody all the New York media picked up on it, you know Because it was sounded so good now all of a sudden out of the blue Fred Trump of all people becomes a empire guy billionaire in Queens, you know living in a Steer a little house. It makes no sense whatsoever. I And apparently Donald was, when he was a baby, they were giving him $300,000 a month. You know, here's a bunch of money, kid. Don't spend it in one place. He's not a self-made man. And the thing is... This is an old meme. This is on the list. It's old. It's in the Trump rotation. Exactly. He's not as rich as he claims he was. Didn't do it by himself, which is kind of a hybrid of a rotation. And a tax cheat somehow, which is very...

CHAPTER 07 / 47 Discussion

Media Inflation of Trump Inheritance Figures

The hosts analyze coverage from Democracy Now! regarding the Trump tax story, focusing on the media's consistent use of "inflation-adjusted dollars" to make historical figures sound larger. They argue that wealthy individuals like Trump, Bloomberg, and Buffett operate under a different set of IRS realities than average citizens. The segment highlights a perceived bias where the media adjusts some numbers for inflation but not others to suit a specific narrative.

democracy now· amy goodman· inheritance tax· irs· inflation

14:08 Specious at best. Well, I know nobody nobody wants gee I guess the New York Times does a better job than the IRS but then the IRS does yeah, and people I heard them on the cable news show saying where's the IRS and I'm like they're busy fucking me up my ass that's what they're doing sorry sorry just it's Tourette's So rundown? This is so bogus. Yeah, let's listen to this is probably the most extreme of the rundowns. This is on Democracy Now. In a major expose, The New York Times has revealed President Trump inherited his family's wealth through tax dodges and outright fraud, receiving at least $413 million in inflation adjusted dollars from his father's real estate empire. The New York Times 13,000 word investigative report found Fred and Mary Trump

15:03 Donald Trump's parents transferred more than a billion dollars in wealth to their children. Much of it to Donald Trump. Wait, was that in today's dollars? I don't know, but he's a lot of money. He's a lot of money. Paying less than 5% of the $550 million in taxes they should have under inheritance tax rates. The Times reports Donald Trump helped his parents undervalue real estate holdings by hundreds of millions of dollars in IRS tax returns. The Times also reports Trump earned $200,000 a year in today's dollars from his parents' companies beginning at the age... Okay, it's annoying me to no end and now that Democracy Now is doing it, the only reason I can think for them to use this consistent today's dollars is because it just they want to inflate it? Yes. This is something that is not typically done.

15:54 This is the, they're doing it, I think to inflate it on the one hand and draw attention to the numbers, bigger numbers or get more attention. This is nuts. I mean, one of the things they don't, this is like during the Obama administration. I mean, the guy never worked really in a business or a job or had any skills like that. And they make all these assumptions. I think Amy Goodman's pretty much in the same boat. For one thing, if you have a lot of money, although you don't even have to have a billion, you can have one of these $14 million apartment complexes, and I guess that makes you a billionaire. You can give money to your children all throughout their lives tax-free. Yeah. It's what you do. You're supposed to do that. You give them, you know, allowances, as much as you can legally. Yeah, because at the end of your day...

16:43 The government comes and takes it away. Yeah, so if you like keep giving it away legally, it's not legal. It's not like there's cheating going on. If there was cheating, the IRS would be all over it. No, no, listen. What they should be doing... Oh, right on time. At 1127. What they should be reporting is there is an America for everybody and then an America for the wealthy buddies. And Trump is clearly a part of that, and I'll tell you exactly what that difference, one part of that difference. The IRS code is pretty much all bull crap just to keep the slaves in check. If you have enough money to go and sue the IRS,

17:26 over very simple things, you will most likely win. The problem is it costs you, you know, two, three hundred thousand dollars to get lawyers and jury pool and all the rest is just slave control. Guys like Trump and people like Bloomberg and Warren Buffett, they don't have to play by the rules because they, the IRS knows, oh, and they don't play by the rules because the actual rules say that they can do this. There are two Americas. Yeah, it's completely, completely okay and legal. Now, is it disgusting that the little guy gets screwed? Yeah, of course it is. Well, they make a story out of that then.

18:03 Oh, please, doesn't involve Trump. Of three, with a salary that increased to a million dollars a year after Trump graduated college and to five million a year when Trump was in his 40s. During the 2016 campaign, Trump repeatedly portrayed himself as a self-made billionaire whose only head start was, quote, a small loan of a million dollars from his dad. Which is 8 billion in today's dollars. It's not been easy for me. It has not been easy for me And you know I started off in Brooklyn my father gave me a small loan of a million dollars I came into Manhattan, and I had to pay him back, and I had to pay him back with interest. In fact the New York Times reports Fred Trump- Stop stop stop. Now what you you actually pointed something out that I didn't catch, but now I did.

18:50 In fact, when he got this so-called million dollar loan, in today's dollars it probably would be about eight. But they don't mention that, do they? But they don't mention that because they want to go with the extremes. Yes. So instead of saying in today's dollars when it came to that, no, no, no, no. Exactly. That way they can exaggerate the difference. It's called biased reporting. You think? Manhattan, and I had to pay him back, and I had to pay him back with interest. In fact, the New York Times reports Fred Trump lent his son Donald at least $140 million in inflation-adjusted dollars, and much of it was never repaid. As the New York Times expose broke on Tuesday, the New York Times reported that Donald Trump

19:32 Because first she doesn't say the million dollars is not adjusted for today, and then she says, in fact, he lent him $140 million in today's dollars. Well, how does that compare to the $1 million that you didn't give us in today's dollars? It's pathetic. It really is. This is like so ridiculous. I mean, and the media in general is pulling this stunt and this today's dollars thing is just part of it. But it goes, today's show, well, I have most of my clips today show some, and Amy's, I have one of those whipsaw clips from her that I've never noticed before because I don't listen to Democracy Now! that much. But I guess she's into it too, you know, say one thing and then exemplify it with something that's got nothing to do with it. Yeah, which one is this?

CHAPTER 08 / 47 Discussion

Democracy Now Switchback on Trump Comments

The hosts identify a "switchback" in Amy Goodman's reporting, where she claims President Trump mocked his accusers before playing a clip where he actually discusses the "scary time for young men" facing potential false accusations. They argue the audio clip provided does not support the reporter's characterization of the event.

amy goodman· democracy now· brett kavanaugh· false accusations· media bias

20:17 Well, does that clip over the other? Yeah, it was pretty much over. Yeah, let it go. Okay. This will be this is where it should say. Switchback? Maybe it's the switchback. Switchback. Got it. President Trump praised Judge Kavanaugh and mocked his accusers Tuesday. This is Trump speaking to reporters outside the White House. Well, I say that it's a very scary time for young men in America when you can be guilty of something that you may not be guilty of. This is a very, very, this is a very difficult time. Wow. Shameless.

20:52 Shameless. He said nothing about the judge and he said nothing about my he didn't mock anybody. And by the way, she said he mocked his accusers. He did have a funny bit that he did at his speech about the woman. Oh, about you have a clip of. Yeah. But but that that was an example of a switchback. She she says Trump did this and that. And then she goes to the clip of Trump who did neither of those things. He's just bitching and moaning about young men today getting screwed over by false accusations. So she's got, she's full of shit this woman. Yeah. Well whoever's writing her script. Sorry, sorry. No that's okay. Well this actually, this takes me into a multi-part series unless you want to play what Trump said at his rally.

CHAPTER 09 / 47 Discussion

Donald Trump Campaign Rally Performance in Mississippi

During a campaign rally in Mississippi, President Trump performed a routine questioning the memory gaps in Dr. Christine Blasey Ford's testimony. The hosts discuss Trump's evolving "stand-up" style and Scott Adams' theory on how inconsistent delivery creates an addictive quality for the audience. They note that mainstream networks often edit the clips to remove the context of his "one beer" punchline.

donald trump· mississippi· campaign rally· christine blasey ford· stand-up comedy

21:37 I would like to play because I thought you know he's developing his stand up. Yeah, it's getting better and it's important because Fox no longer breaks life to him when he's doing these which means hey you know your script is kind of old and tired. He caught on to it two times he wasn't aired boom now he's doing stuff that they have to air again. So yes and of course C-SPAN does play his whole speeches. Scott Adams made it An interesting observation on the Joe Rogan show, which someone sent to me, said if you want to make something addictive, then you can't deliver the same outstanding product every single time. It has to be different so that people are saying, oh, well, it wasn't quite as good as, maybe it'll be this time. And then when you get one, then, you know, then boom, everything, your, your levels go through the roof. Like, oh yeah, this is fantastic. And that's how you addict someone, which is what Trump does. By the way,

22:29 inadvertently we do it on this show. But we're naturals. We're naturals at sucking sometimes. Yes. All right. But so that's why, you know, he's smart. He's adding to his routine. I agree. Now, all of the networks said that Trunk, and they did it derisively, and they even had Anna Eshoo locally, I don't have the clip of her bitching about this, oh, he mocked that poor woman, he mocked her, he mocked her as though he's like, I don't know, I mean, I don't get what the point is, he's not really, he's doing a shtick.

23:05 And I think he's doing it well. And this is him. Trump mocks Ford at the speech. Later Tuesday, President Trump mocked Dr. Christine Blasey Ford during a campaign rally in Mississippi, just days after he'd called her a very credible witness. 36 years ago, this happened. I had one beer, right? I had one beer. Well, do you think it was nope? It was one beer. Oh good. How did you get home? I don't remember. How'd you get there? I don't remember. Where is the place? I don't remember. How many years ago was it? I don't know. Oh But at the end, yeah, there was more to it at the end he brings it back and says but I had one beer Yeah, he did. He did wrap it around. It was very well done. They didn't play that whole thing. I

24:01 Unfortunately, and I don't have it. But yes, he did. I heard I heard it once. Yes It was very well done and he does the build-up. He does the yelling louder and louder. I don't know. I don't know What with the audience applauding? I mean the guy is getting really good at this now there was a The National Press Club show, which you may have seen at least one clip from, that's the Calb Report. And on this show was Ted Koppel, Chad Koppel, and Brian Stelter, the seltzer waterman from CNN's reliable sources. Also on the panel was some dude from WAPO and

CHAPTER 10 / 47 Discussion

Ted Koppel Criticizes CNN and MSNBC at National Press Club

At a National Press Club panel, veteran journalist Ted Koppel confronted CNN's Brian Stelter, asserting that the network's ratings would be "in the toilet" without Donald Trump. Koppel argued that the media industry has a financial incentive to focus exclusively on Trump. The hosts praise Koppel for deconstructing the media's reliance on Trump-centric content for profit.

ted koppel· brian stelter· cnn· msnbc· ratings

24:43 Emily Rooney from WGBH Boston and they're taught well I'm trying to think here's how I think I'm gonna do this I'm going to play the clip that pretty much everybody saw And I've learned from doing this show for 11 in our 11th year now that often when there's a clip that's going viral and people are showing it, you got to go and find the source material because A, there's probably more to the clip than just that little meme that floats around and B, there may be a lot more in it. And I think I struck some gold with this one. Ted Koppel pretty much doing our job as media deconstructionist

25:24 And I'm gonna jump right into this and then later I'll go back to the beginning to show you how sadly pathetic it really is. But I love what Koppel said here. They're talking about the press and the president, and how it's horrible to have to be a journalist, and we're under fire, we have to resist, and he's a liar, and he tweets, and all this stuff. And then Ted Koppel drops this. Oh, I think that we've left out a key word. Everybody here keeps talking about ideology and politics. Money.

26:02 Money! Money! Money! Donald Trump has been very, very good for baseball. He has been wonderful for the industry. Your boss acknowledged as much a number of months ago during the campaign. It was Les Moonves who acknowledged it. Les Moonves also acknowledged it, but so did the head of CNN. But that means what? If ratings are up, that means what? Oh, the ratings are up, it means you can't do without Donald Trump. You would be lost without Donald Trump. That is what he says. Hold on just a second. CNN ratings would be in the toilet without Donald Trump. You know that's not true. You're playing for laughs. I realize Brian Stelter, I think he's... Is that Stelter? Yeah, he sounds super gay.

26:53 He's like, you're just doing that for cheap laughs, Ted. You've lived through enough presidencies to know there will be more presidents. What were the ratings before Trump and what are the ratings now? I would say we might be up 20, we might be up 30 percent, we might be up 40 percent. If we go back down 40 percent, that's OK too. Well, it may not be okay, but... Of course it is! Sure, no problem, Brian. Keep saying that. I reject the premise that these networks are making so much money off of Trump and thus we benefit from it. Tell me for a moment, if you will, let's get away from CNN, all right? Sensitive subject. Let's go to MSNBC.

27:35 Is there a moment of the day when they are not focusing on Donald Trump or some intimately related subject? It is essentially, oh I know, every once in a while. You know, if the number of people who died in Indonesia gets up to a thousand, they'll give it a mention or two. But by and large the only news that's covered program after program after program exactly So it was fun to watch Brian Stelter's face just kind of melt away and make all these gaffes so I go back and Watch this entire show and the the premise of the show by itself was such utter bullcrap that

CHAPTER 11 / 47 Discussion

Marvin Kalb and the "Enemy of the People" Quote

The hosts deconstruct an introduction by Marvin Kalb at the National Press Club where he compared Donald Trump to Hitler and Stalin for calling the press the "enemy of the people." They play a clip of Trump clarifying that he specifically referred to "fake news" as the enemy, arguing that the media intentionally dropped the word "fake" to create a more inflammatory narrative.

marvin kalb· fake news· enemy of the people· journalism· historical fact

28:20 It was a total head shaker. Here is the intro to this show. Hello, by the way I cut out a ton of spaces because this calb guy and couple they talk like this Yeah, they do a lot. They use dramatic. Yeah, that's an ology very dramatic Oh and welcome to the National Press Club and to another edition of the Calvert port and I'm Marvin Kalb and our topic tonight, truth be told, journalism in the age of Donald Trump. In February 2017, three weeks after his inauguration, President Trump called the press the enemy of the American people. Okay, now he said February 2017, February. We're going to come back to that in a minute, but he said, press, enemy of the people. If truth be told, our mission tonight

29:17 I was stunned. He was the first leader of a democracy to call the press an enemy of the people. Up to this time, only the dictators of the 20th century, Hitler of Germany, Stalin of the Soviet Union, had used that loaded phrase. I was left wondering. Why would Trump choose to join such unsavory company? Like he made a decision. I think I shall become a dictator. I want to join these guys. What did he have in mind? What was his strategy? And for a journalist equally important, how should one cover a president so indifferent to historical fact and so free and easy with truth?

30:04 No easy task. So we know that that is not what the president said, but this guy, you know, someone wrote it down for him. Maybe he researched it. February Trump's. Oh my God. He said the press is the enemy of the people. And Trump addressed this grievance three days after he said the fake news is the enemy of the people. And I got the clip for us. And I want you all to know that we are fighting the fake news. It's fake phony, fake. A few days ago, I called the fake news the enemy of the people, and they are. They are the enemy of the people. Because they have no sources, they just make them up when there are none. They're very dishonest people. In fact, in covering my comments, the dishonest media did not explain that I called the fake news the enemy of the people. The fake news.

31:04 they dropped off the word fake. And all of a sudden, the story became the media is the enemy. They take the word fake out. And now I'm saying, oh no, this is no good. But that's the way they are. So I'm not against the media. Anyway, so he, you know, that's not what he said. The whole way that by the way is an excellent clip to keep at the ready because this kind of thing just continues to propagate. And now you have, you know, Marvin Kalb, a very famous old, you know, retired journalist.

31:40 throwing it out there again and that's and it's bullcrap this is very poor this is very poor they're just proving the point. That's what was so amazing there's a couple of things here but that was so mind-boggling to me is you didn't even get the quote right and and you didn't even get the media but you moved it to press So it's mind boggling. They can move the media to press. Yeah, but fake news to media is the enemy to the press is the enemy of the people. Yeah, which is never said. We have a saying in the Netherlands, als de schoen pas trekken hem aan. If the shoe fits, you will put it on. So maybe that's what's going on here. Yeah, that's us. We're fake. Oh, it's me. It's the press. I can't explain it any other way. That sounds like a good explanation as any.

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Ted Koppel on the Death of Journalistic Objectivity

Ted Koppel discusses the loss of the media's "gatekeeper" role due to the internet and social media. He recounts an anecdote about former New York Times editor Abe Rosenthal forbidding reporters from expressing opinions on television. Koppel criticizes modern journalists for appearing on partisan shows like "Morning Joe," arguing that their association with anti-Trump agendas destroys their credibility as objective reporters.

ted koppel· walter cronkite· joe scarborough· mika brzezinski· objectivity

32:27 Now, Koppel is very switched on and he mentions things that I have a feeling that the panel had never even maybe thought about. To us, very obvious. What is your underlying fear about this collision between president and press? Well, let me tell you a little anecdote, which as our Old friend Henry Kissinger liked to say, has the additional advantage of being true. In Cleveland, the day that he was nominated, I sat down with Donald Trump. I have known Donald Trump for about 20 years. And in the course of that interview, he said to me, you know, Ted, I don't need you guys anymore. You guys in the press.

33:14 He said, I've got, I think at that time it was 18 million followers on Twitter and perhaps at that point 12 million followers on Facebook. Those numbers have expanded. Going up to about 53 million. Hugely, hugely. He said, I don't need you guys. I can contact my people directly, communicate with them. directly. That's part of our problem. The other part of our problem is the Internet. which, because it gives access to anyone with an iPhone or a laptop computer, requires far less experience than any of the panelists you have up here. It's like I'm watching this in slow motion. Wait a minute. Now I know what happened. Internet! My goodness.

34:13 So there's some more back and forth about the media's image. I'm going to skip that clip. Oh, at a certain point, a very rude question, very rude. We have a number of oral doctors known as dentists who listen to this program. Oh yeah. Oral hygiene is incredibly nice. I think we have dukes even. Oral hygiene is incredibly important to your overall well-being and health. Let's mock him. Do you think they should go into journalism or become... Yeah, so it's about the young people who are attending this farce. Do you think they should go into journalism or become dentists? What? Oh, fuck you. I go back to your Richard C. Hotlet quote.

35:05 Get it straight. Become journalists. Be professional journalists. I hate the self-depiction of some of our colleagues as being part of the resistance. No, we're not. We're journalists. And that means gathering the facts and conveying them as accurately as we can. Sometimes that will be hypercritical, but we gotta do it. Do your job. Last clip kind of backs this up with a nice anecdote. And this is kind of his advice to today's journos. In the old days, we were the gatekeepers. That was a term that a behavioral scientist by the name of Wilbur Schramm coined many, many years ago. To get to the public, you had to go through Marvin Kalb or Walter Cronkite.

36:03 or Chet Huntley and David Brinkley. And you only had the three networks, right? That made a huge difference. Another quick story. I got a call, oh, about 30 years ago from a New York Times reporter. No, actually, I called him because I wanted him to come on as a guest on Nightline. And he went to check with the then-executive editor of the New York Times, a fellow by the name of Abe Rosenthal. Old friend of yours and he called me back later, and he said I'll tell you what I have said He said you want to go on couples program you go right ahead only don't come back to the New York Times His point being twofold one you work for the times and that's all I want you to do and to couples going to ask you a lot of provocative questions And I don't want my New York Times reporters expressing opinions

37:04 Well, them days is long past. From Morning Joe to Rachel at night on CNN, on MSNBC, the spear carriers are there from the New York Times, from the Washington Post, and they are trying very, very hard to be what they are. First-rate objective reporters. But when you are in the presence of Joe and Mika Brzezinski in the morning, and you are on that program where quite clearly the agenda is anti-Trump from start to finish. If you appear on that program and you sit on that desk morning after morning after morning, the public is going to identify you.

37:53 as being anti-Trump. And you can do the best you possibly can to be an objective reporter when you're doing your stories for the Times and people aren't going to believe you. I think Ted is due for a hashtag Me Too moment. You got to be careful there, Ted. I'd be careful, yeah. Can't be speaking that truth to power, bro. Very, very dangerous. Very dangerous. But he's dead on. Yeah, of course he's dead on. But of course those assholes up there, they were paying no attention to him. No. No, of course not. No, they're saying, well, you know, Ted's an old man, you know, he sees things differently. He knows Trump personally. He's trying to defend his friend. Yeah. We're part of the resistance. Oh, is that it? They're friendly? Is Koppel, surely he's left?

CHAPTER 13 / 47 Discussion

Silicon Valley Political Climate and Conservative Silence

One host describes attending a "Cocktails with Conservatives" event in California, noting that many attendees feel silenced in their professional lives. The discussion centers on the social and professional risks of identifying as a conservative or Republican in the Silicon Valley area, leading to a culture where people only speak freely among "fellow travelers."

silicon valley· california republicans· free speech· social pressure· cocktails with conservatives

38:43 Oh yeah, he's known Trump forever. Well, most people in the press around New York have known Trump forever. They just never picked up on his Nazi stuff. Strange. So strange. Very strange. I don't understand. How does it happen? He's putting himself in with Stalin and Hitler, as Marvin Kalb said. Wow. Well, so I met up with one of these little secretive Republican gatherings on Friday. I mentioned this, I was going to go to do this. No, you didn't tell me this. Yes, I told you, I did. Not on the show. It was a couple of weeks ago and I told you, it was after the show. Oh, if it didn't happen on the show, it didn't happen. I agree.

39:29 So I went to this thing and it was interesting because there was... Well, can you tell us what the thing was? I mean, who's... It was just one of these little... Cocktails with conservatives was the name of it. That's what it was. And so I said, well, I'll go to this thing. And so, uh, because I wanted to see what was going on with the Republic, California Republicans are pathetic. All of them were in the room. No doubt. Pretty much. I think the whole, all of the California Republicans were there. And, uh, you know, it was like one guy's a professor. He teaches public speaking at some College you wouldn't say which because he was great. Did y'all have badges with your name blacked out just the first name Was your name Earl

40:12 Did you tell people you were a podcaster? It was like everybody, yes I did. And like everybody's, and I, you know, they, some people don't realize that pod, where podcasters sit on the pecking order, but they, yeah. Ooh, you're a podcaster. Ooh, that's hip. The point is, is that everybody seems to be freaked out. They can't bring, they can't say anything that they, they can't say anything. in public, unless they're amongst fellow travelers, because they get called out and yelled at and accused of this and that, the potential losing their jobs, especially in the Silicon Valley area. It's really pathetic how anybody who's not a Hillary supporter has been silenced in California.

41:01 Even though they said a couple of said well, I put it I'm sorry. I would go even further I would say even just saying you're conservative a conservative or Republican I'm sure it is just not done on California and it's But it's like it's so accepted to just to keep these people from speaking up. So they never speak up. They just don't. They just shut up, which is what we recommend on this show, by the way, if you haven't noticed. In some environments, you just shut up because you're nuts to do anything else. Because the radicals are pretty much hold the reins of control when it comes to free speech. But, you know, it was interesting. So well, this is a dud.

CHAPTER 14 / 47 Discussion

California Proposition 6 and Gas Tax Repeal

The hosts discuss Proposition 6, a California ballot measure intended to repeal a recent gas tax increase. They criticize the way the measure is presented on the ballot, claiming the language is written by state officials to sound intentionally negative by suggesting that a "yes" vote will destroy roads and freeways.

proposition 6· gas tax· jerry brown· ballot language· california

41:44 What came out of it? Anything? Surely something came out of it. Yeah, I found out. I didn't know this, but I should have known it. We had a representative from the RNC there and he's talking about that we have a bill in California to repeal a ridiculous gas tax that was just thrown out. The government says, we're running out of money because we've got so much corruption in California. Let's put another 10 cents on every gallon of gas, that'll help. And so some, they said, no, no, this is ridiculous. You keep taxing gas, it's too high. The gas is too high, so let's put a, let's repeal the gas tax, which is Proposition 6.

42:23 So yes on six repeals the gas tax. But I was looking over my ballot and when you read the yes on six information in the ballot, it says voting for this will destroy the roads and freeways of California. What? How does that make no sense? That's what I said. And the guy says, oh yes, the lieutenant governor, the guy who writes, I think it's lieutenant government who writes these, uh, um, He's the guy who writes these things on, he's the one who writes up the way it's presented on the ballot. So he writes it up for the benefit of the state, the coffers, by making it sound very negative if you vote yes on six. Well, that's not just a little negative, it sounded like fire and fury. Okay, on the next show I'm going to bring the ballot up and I'll read it.

43:16 I'll read the way it's written because I do have it downstairs, but it's like I didn't realize that that's how it was done I thought it was there was a committee. I thought it was a little more fair, but it's not What am I thinking? Well, things are getting fair in California. Very, very fair, especially for women. California Governor Jerry Brown signed a bill into law Sunday requiring that publicly held corporations headquartered in the state include women on their boards. This law is the first of its kind in the U.S., and we've got Jenna McGregor to talk about it. She covers corporate governance for The Washington Post. When Governor Jerry Brown was talking about this, he referred to recent events in Washington, and you wrote about the Brett Kavanaugh hearings in the Senate Judiciary Committee and sort of the appearance of having a female prosecutor there in the room.

CHAPTER 15 / 47 Discussion

California Board Diversity Law and Corporate Governance

Governor Jerry Brown signed a law requiring publicly held corporations headquartered in California to include women on their boards of directors. The hosts question the constitutionality of the law and suggest it may drive companies to incorporate in states like Delaware. They also mock the NPR coverage that links the law to the national conversation surrounding the Kavanaugh hearings.

jerry brown· board diversity· corporate governance· senate judiciary committee· quotas

44:10 How much of this is about appearance and how much is about change in corporate governance? This, by the way, is NPR always ready to put in a Trump dig. Well, I have seen the same question of whether he is trying to make a statement, particularly this week, although this was the deadline end of September for deciding to sign it into law. So what was this a way of making a statement of what the country has been engaged in a major national conversation about. The issue of whether having more women on the board has any impact is a good question. There is a lot of research that shows it does have a good impact, that it leads to either higher returns or better decision-making or better priced mergers. Sounds pretty solid to me, that background research info.

45:00 Yet, the question is how do you do it? Do you actually require them to do it? Do you have incentives for them to do it? Do you do it through kind of public shaming? And so what is the best approach to getting more diversity on the board or getting more diversity in a room full of any decision makers? Ah, key point there, because that'll be next. Key point. This is for board. And as she said right there, WAPO. How about just equal women, men, for any room of decision makers, any room of decision makers. I can see this happening. It's like a Varnegut type situation. Do they have any provisions for this? And I know there's a couple of companies in California that brag about being all women. Women CEO. How about HuffPo? Is that fine? That's okay? Yes.

45:52 Well, this is where you live. And that was not the only... This drives, this is another wedge between business and the state government. It just make companies just gonna incorporate in Delaware, where they don't have to do any of this stuff. I wouldn't. But if you're operating in California, I'm sure you have to adhere to it, whether you're a Delaware company or not. No, it's where you're headquartered or where you're incorporated. I mean, Amazon's operating in California. A lot of people operate in California. It doesn't mean that they have to have women on their boards. They will. They will. They will. Well, they can try. It's illegal. They'll be shamed. Wait, it's illegal?

46:32 It's unconstitutional. You can't tell people what, you know, you can't have quotas like that on a board of a company, public or not, as far as I can tell. It would be struck down by the Supreme Court, especially once Kavanaugh gets in. Okay, John, simmer down. Because he hates women! That's right, that's why he'll do it. Your net neutrality law also passed and I will remind everyone John and I are against the idea of net neutrality. And it's a misunderstood position, but it is absolutely true that all net neutrality regulations and rules, including those in California, include the language that an ISP may block any unlawful traffic

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California Net Neutrality Law and Streaming Services

California passed its own net neutrality law, which the hosts argue is misunderstood and primarily benefits large tech companies like Google and Netflix. They point out that the law allows ISPs to block "unlawful content," which could target torrents and Bitcoin. The discussion explores how the fragmentation of streaming services is leading to a resurgence in illegal downloading.

net neutrality· fcc· california· streaming· torrents

47:26 or unlawful content. Yeah, torrents. Hello torrents. All of that goes away. Bitcoin, all kinds of things. Well, yeah, I think torrents would be the first. Torrents would be the first to go, but also unlawful content. So there's a lot of blocking that could happen and the prioritization thing is bull crap as you've pointed out many times. You definitely want telemedicine to have some type of prioritization. at certain moments, but no. But this report from NPR is exquisite. Remind us what net neutrality is and what impact this California law, if implemented, would have on ordinary people going online. Right. The overarching question of net neutrality is

48:07 how much power your internet provider should have over your internet experience. So typically when people talk about net neutrality, they mean regulations like no blocking of whatever website you want to visit, that internet providers should not be able to slow down an app that you're visiting. Oh, I'm visiting an app today. Say hi to grandma. Other elements sometimes include. I'm visiting an app. Well, this is the level of NPR technology reporting and she's telling us this is what it's about, you know So so they can't slow down your connection or with your app Other elements sometimes include things like zero rating which is a deal where Verizon might give you streaming of Hulu that doesn't count toward your Data restrictions, but then count Netflix to our data just restrictions And these are all rules that California put into place. They they banned all these things

49:00 Ban them, I tell you, ban them. Sounds like they banned, whatever they ban is for the benefit of so we can make sure to get our streaming. Right. Well, we all know who this really benefits and it benefits Google, it benefits Facebook, Twitter. Apple to an extent. It benefits those guys. Let's see if she brings that up. Before the Trump administration repealed the net neutrality rules, there was a really vocal campaign by activists trying to get the FCC not to take this step. Now that California has gone this route, what has the reaction been? Well, California was indeed sort of reacting to that massive liberal wave of activism and online activism that prompted the writing of these rules. You know, the battle lines have been drawn for a while on the net neutrality debate, and then they're still the same. On the one hand, you've got internet companies, especially the smaller ones like Etsy or video streaming company Vimeo, saying that these rules are critical for them to be able to compete against the bigger companies.

49:58 But on the other side, you've got the telecom providers, your AT&T, your Verizon, your Comcast, that have been pushing California to not put net neutrality rules into place and are expected to sue California as well. Yeah, let's add Amazon. Let's add Amazon, Netflix, let's add all of that. Those guys don't want to have to pay extra. That's what this is about. But no, it's about little guys don't want to get screwed. No, please. I want to mention something here, which is part of my ongoing argument, which we sometimes forget to mention. Ever since the Internet showed up in the late 80s and then when it became very popular, starting with the browser and the World Wide Web,

50:43 There was this constant cry, and you remember this, oh my God, we can't let the government ever step foot and screw things up, don't let the government come in with their regulations. Net neutrality issues are all about giving the government the power to come in and screw things up, which is what they've been, they were bitching, all the experts, all the superstars were doing nothing but moaning and groaning about the possibility of the government coming in and screwing things up with the internet, but now they're inviting it? Hello? I love it when you get mad. It's just that you see this happen and you go, you guys were thinking the other way just a few years ago for pretty good reasons and now you're inviting it? How did you get, here's what I would ask, how did you all get suckered

51:39 by this net neutrality nonsense. How did that happen? in DC is Silicon Valley led mainly by, you know, Google I'd say is the most sophisticated. But they all have their lobbying arms. They all, and you know, it's sexy. They got stars, they got all kinds of stuff. They got storylines, they got cameos. It's all sexy, sexy, sexy. And those are the guys who just lobby the crap out of it, and they create all these little non-profits, all these stop net neutrality, who all get about $800,000, $900,000 a year from Google. And Soros probably, I'll just throw that in there because it sounds good. But Google for sure, and from Facebook, and it's their job to go out and make you afraid. Because it's not that hard to believe.

52:38 But it's without critical thinking or without knowledge of how shit works, how peering works, what actually the Netflix controversy was about. None of that background is given anymore. So it's just a lack of knowledge and playing to people's fear. Oh! Oh! Do I want my Netflix to be buffering? That's the main thing. By the way, there's reports now that Because there are so many streaming services that have, yeah I know, that all have separate requirements for... Amazon streaming is the only one you can do a la carte with most things if you want to, which I do like. I like saying, oh this is $1.99, yeah that's worth it to me. This is good value for whatever that one episode is.

53:26 But because it's the big hit stuff that comes out, you have to have either an Amazon account or you have to have a Netflix account or you have to have a Hulu account or Roku is now in the game. You know, all these different services. So, torrents are on the rise again. It's become what worked so well with Netflix and to an extent with Amazon, now they're eating themselves again because everyone's got an exclusive on House of Cards. You just can't get it if you're only an Amazon person. So, they're forcing people back into illegality. Yeah, I can see that. It makes sense. It may not matter to them.

CHAPTER 17 / 47 Discussion

Microsoft Domain Seizures and Russian Hacking Claims

Microsoft's digital crimes unit obtained a court order to seize six web domains allegedly tied to Russian military hackers attempting to disrupt the U.S. midterms. The hosts express concern over the legal precedent of a private corporation taking over DNS records and question the technical validity of claims that "port scanning" by Russians was a destructive threat.

microsoft· dns· russian military· phishing· midterms

54:11 But that's something that net neutrality will take care of. Don't you worry. Microsoft says it has thwarted an attempt by hackers tied to the Russian military to disrupt the US midterm elections. The company's digital crimes unit shut down six web domains meant to mimic sites victims might expect to get email from or visit, like senate.group. Microsoft said it's sifting through evidence of the group's intentions after getting a court order to take over those domains. I didn't understand that story at all.

55:02 You didn't understand what that I want to listen to it again Microsoft says it has thwarted an attempt by hackers tied to the Russian military to disrupt the US midterm elections now. She's saying hackers from the Russian military Microsoft has thwarted. Yeah. Microsoft somehow. Microsoft says it has thwarted an attempt by hackers tied to the Russian military. Oh, tied to the Russian. Oh, just what? They're tied with shoelaces. They're tied to the Russian military. To disrupt the U.S. midterm elections. The company's digital crimes unit shut down six web domains meant to mimic sites victims might expect to get email from or visit like senate.group. Microsoft said it's sifting through evidence of the group's intentions after getting a court order to take over those domains. Oh, okay. Wow. So if I understand correctly this is this is something this is a problem.

55:52 You think? This is a real problem. So there were phishing domains which would probably be like Microsoft with two T's instead of an FT at the end. I'll just give an example. Yeah, something like that. So it would be email from, you know, support at Microsoft.com. And that could be, you know, phishing emails. So they went to the authorities and said, hey, these guys are tied to the Russians. So just Change the DNS to our DNS servers. I guess this is horrible over the domain somehow That can only be done through registration and DNS. That's what I'm saying so that's crazy So so they must have I want to know this is this warrants a lot of research who was thinking that same thing There's something up with this. This is actually an interesting story that needs to be explored and

56:45 But this is something I did not know This is something for our dudes named Ben because the way you know the the networks and didn't we just give all that to to the Some the IETF one of those The telecom union is a while ago. Yeah, the UTA or whatever it is. Yeah. Yeah exactly the UTA UTA I don't know. This is a very sketchy story. She talks too fast, very poor presentation. But here's what's going on. You have to pay money to. Someone could just come along and say, hey, that curry.com.

57:26 You know, that could be used instead of my big company, Curry's, the electronics store in the UK. Chain, quite a big chain. Yep. You know, we're very worried about this email that we saw floating around, you know, and it was a phishing email, so hey, like, give him, give his DNS, which I've had for 35 years, give his DNS over to us. A dude's name, Ben, can figure this one out. This is very, very Bad that's the one thing you've got on the internet the one piece that really is supposed to kind of be neutral is DNS Yeah, well that won't last now. No

58:04 Please whatever you do do not send me a million alternatives for DNS. I know We can do it in the cloud We have a space DNS DNS sec yeah, I'm quite aware. Yeah We still have to stop this this has to stop. Oh, I know blockchain DNS there we go that'll fix it Well, since we're doing tech news in the mainstream media regarding the Russians, the Russians who by the way apparently were responsible for all the negative press about the Star Wars movie that was a dud. I'm sure you saw those stories. Which movie are you talking about? Solo? Yeah. So I saw the movie by the way.

CHAPTER 18 / 47 Discussion

Russian Trolls and Star Wars: The Last Jedi

An academic paper titled "Weaponizing the Haters" claims that negative buzz surrounding the film *Star Wars: The Last Jedi* was amplified by Russian trolls. The hosts dismiss the study, arguing that the film was simply poor in quality and that the media is using "Russian trolls" as a scapegoat for genuine fan disappointment.

star wars· the last jedi· russian trolls· rian johnson· social media manipulation

58:54 Yeah? Because we have a couple of, I think a couple of our people, our producers that work on the staff there, I think, that did some of the art and some other things for that movie. And they spoke fondly of it, so I decided to watch it. And it's terrible. It's a terrible movie. It's boring and it doesn't make any sense. And it's a who cares movie, whatever this whatever happened to solo in those early days. You know, it's just Boris dumb. Let me go on. So from the Hollywood Reporter Star Wars, The Last Jedi negative buzz amplified by Russian trolls.

59:35 I was last Jedi. I'm sorry. I talked about yeah, well, it's not solo. Solo's worse. I don't know shit about the last Jedi when I saw it if you remember on this show I said I don't understand why I got so much positive reviews. It made no sense. It was completely off the rails 90% of the time. The storyline was full of holes. It was dumb. There was an academic paper that found that half of the criticism aimed at director Rian Johnson was politically motivated. The paper, titled Weaponizing the Haters, the Last Jedi and the Strategic Politicization of Pop Culture Through Social Media Manipulation,

1:00:15 examines the online response to 2017's Last Jedi, a movie that has come to be considered controversial amongst the larger fan base of the franchise. That's because the movie stinks. It's got nothing to do with the director and everyone hating him. Sure, but it was amplified online by Russian trolls. Oh, brother. Yeah, they report that with... It's unbelievable because the online activity for that movie when it came out was all positive. Here is the latest Russian troll hacking link to our whatever from New Zealand

CHAPTER 19 / 47 Discussion

New Zealand Spy Agency Condemns Russian Cyber Activity

New Zealand's spy agency, the GCSB, joined other "Five Eyes" partners in condemning Russian military intelligence for malicious cyber activity. The hosts mock the report for highlighting "port scanning" as a major threat, characterizing the announcement as a coordinated effort to put diplomatic pressure on Russia rather than a response to actual destruction.

new zealand· gcsb· five eyes· cyber security· port scanning

1:00:52 And the kicker is at the end. When the World Anti-Doping Agency was hacked after investigating Russian athletes in 2016, fingers pointed to Russia. Now there's evidence it was to blame. And in a rare move, New Zealand's spy agency is speaking out. What we've seen here is Russian military intelligence undertaking quite malicious and deliberate cyber activity. There are three other examples too, including evidence Russia hacked and leaked emails from the Democrats during the US election in 2016. It's taken years for the GCSB to gather this evidence, but it hasn't been acting alone. It's been working with other Five Eye partners, Australia, the US, the UK and Canada,

1:01:39 And the release of these findings has been coordinated to put pressure on Russia. Our Prime Minister joining her Australian counterpart in condemning the attacks. It's important that as an international community we call out those who aren't following the international rule book and here is an example of that. New Zealand hasn't been affected by these attacks but the GCSB says we can't relax. We've certainly seen evidence of of the same actor scanning New Zealand networks looking for vulnerabilities. Another port scan brought to you in a minute and a half of breaking news about Russian trolls breaking- Fortunately, we have been able to identify and disrupt that activity before it's caused destruction. Oh, the port scanning was going to cause destruction. We were able to interrupt it.

1:02:28 Oh my kidding me now. And this is the GSG CSB. This is the spooks of New Zealand. The five eyes make a big story about port scanning. Oh my goodness. It's it's just despicable. I said that the public laps this crap up is beyond me. Well, it's lack of knowledge. Everything's a glitch. Come on. There's no reporting. Yeah, it's better to keep the public dumb and stupid I guess. Well with this kind of reporting it's working out just fine. You, the last of the true reporters, now wiped from the tech press universe. Hey, me and Seymour Hersh. Not bad to be in that company and just for that I'd like to thank you for your courage. You, the man who put the C in mac and cheese, John C. Dvorak.

CHAPTER 20 / 47 Discussion

No Agenda Show Art and Newsletter Discussion

The hosts discuss the process of selecting show art and titles, highlighting a recent piece by "Illuminati" featuring a monkeypox theme. They also address a formatting error in the recent newsletter and the lack of feedback from the audience regarding specific essays and images included in the publication.

illuminati· monkeypox· newsletter· show art· production

1:03:23 Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry, and also in the morning all the boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, feet in the air, boots on the ground, and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to our troll room. Got some actual trolls in there today. Space force. Yeah, some trolls in there. Very good trolls. It's too much fun. Noagendastream.com is where you can listen to our show live as we produce it. It's exactly the same as you get on the podcast, but you do get the benefit of the chat room. By the way, in our show notes, we also have the chat room synchronized with the audio on the YouTube video, which is pretty cool, along with some transcripts and all kinds of good stuff. The show notes continues to be an additional resource that you get gratis along with the show.

1:04:12 I want to say in the morning to Illuminati a no sooner had she heard us talking about her on the previous show than she created a piece of art that was the one we just had to choose this was a episode 1073 booth a lemon the title of that and and this was a gross man this was a very nice piece there were a lot of lemon boofing pieces of art that just We're funny bit much. Yeah funny for us, but and also we tend not to use art and title in the same theme Yes, we have a couple of rules you should know. Unfortunately, you can't really... You can't know what we're going to title it. If we use something at the very beginning of the show, which you can't hear until we produce the show, or if we use something at the very end of the show, which you really might hear, but it's already too late to get the art in. Generally speaking, and if it has our pictures on it, that's no good. And if it's going to be...

1:05:13 The art will supersede the title. That is very common. If the art has got the kind of idea of what the title is going to be, but the art's better than... it's so good that we have to pick the art, we have to come up with another title. Yeah, actually I would say that we always pick art first. Yeah, art comes first, then title. Yeah, but sometimes we'll be like, oh, if we pick that art, we can't use that title I had in mind. That happens and sometimes we bump the art, but only if there's a really good piece of art to back it up. As you can tell, there's a lot of work that goes into the post-production. We have to sit here as we twiddle our thumbs and make these massive decisions. Yes. So, Illuminati, uh...

1:05:56 Made a nice piece. It was the the the Godfather type font type white on black background and this was the monkey the monkey pox that we all have to be very afraid of and it was you know a silhouette figure of a monkey attacking a person It had something really funny about it. It was just kind of Oddly amusing yeah, but there were lots of good pieces you even use one in the newsletter I saw the it's all lies Yeah, I like that piece. You know, you had two paragraphs doubled in the newsletter for some reason. Did anyone mention that? Nobody mentioned it, of course. Maybe... that does happen and I'll tell you why. Well, I won't tell you why. It's a mechanical thing. It shouldn't have happened. No, it's okay. I'm just mentioning it. I'm surprised I didn't catch it. Well, I'm always surprised that no one mentions it. I don't think anybody cares about the newsletter. I care.

CHAPTER 21 / 47 Discussion

Executive Producer Segment: Sir Animus of Dogpatch

Sir Animus of Dogpatch provides a creative note regarding a fictional journey through Lower Slobovia and Dogpatch to raise funds for the show. The donation is intended to support a host's potential age discrimination lawsuit and provide an engagement gift for the other host.

dogpatch· lower slobovia· executive producer· donation· engagement gift

1:06:50 I mean, you know, sometimes they'll read some of the essays once in a while, like five people will do that. I had a really good point to make in this newsletter. Five? I'm talking, I had the picture of Trump, Fred Trump's, I had the whole thing about Fred Trump. Oh yeah, Fred Trump's house and everything. His house, the little shack, you know what I mean? The whole thing about Fred Trump being a billionaire empire, the Fred Trump empire, the New York Times made it up. In today's dollars. It's just bull crap. I mean anybody that's lapsed that up is extremely stupid. Yeah, all right Well, let's start with the thing and some people we have one executive producer Which is ironic since I put a special executive producer idea into the newsletter. Nobody picked up on it We've been coming short with our executive producers for some reason we get a lot of associates So today we get one executive producer gotten that really nothing to do with the newsletter or anything else This is sir. Animus of dog Patrick comes in every month. Sir. Animus. I mean does he doesn't want titles, right? Besides just sir. He does he's got a seronomy. I know he'd be a Duke by now

1:07:51 I'm pretty sure it's a dog patch in lower Slobovia. He just wants to have his locations Specified for some reason and it makes it clear in this note Uh, from Sironymous. As a part of my nightly duty, I hosted a meetup in Lower Slobovia and passed the hat to fund something special as an engagement gift for Adam and to bridge the loss of income for John. Oh, how sweet. I ended up with a hat filled with seashells and beaded necklaces plus one smooth and polished stone. Oh, thanks! I next traveled to Dogpatch to do the same thing, and the meetup quickly became a drink-up. It was Dogpatch, after all. Taking advantage of the situation, I traded the high-quality collectible seashells and rare beaded necklaces for a case of good old Dogpatchian shine.

1:08:45 I was able to sell the case of Shine by the bottle, all except one bottle as my commission, and I'm sending the proceeds to help fund John's age discrimination lawsuit and to buy a gift for Adam's engagement. Did keep the polished stone. I need some local cash for my next visit to lower Slobovia Enjoy NJ NK Wow, thank you so much seronymous of dog patch and lower Slobovia and always a fine piece of content to go with his support of the show That's nice. Yes. He entertains us with his with his charming writing. Yes, and we really appreciate the $100 in yesterday's dollars

CHAPTER 22 / 47 Discussion

Associate Executive Producers and Birthday Donations

The hosts read letters from various associate executive producers, including birthday acknowledgments and requests for "jobs karma." A somber note is read regarding the passing of "Blue Knight" Brian Wojtek, with a posthumous producer credit arranged by Gretchen Wittig. The community is asked to raise a glass in his honor.

jobs karma· birthday list· blue knight· brian wojtek· donations

1:09:23 Yes, $1,000.50. Fantastic. Gracias, thank you. Levy, onward to Levi or Levy, I think it's Levy Portenier in Lakewood, Colorado, $276.76. ITM John and Ab thanks for the B T B P ITU is truly an unparalleled experience I can really use a jobs karma as I will be interviewing for a dude named Ben position that I've been getting for a long time. I like the Truly an unparalleled experience I like that. Yeah, I think he's probably right Jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs

1:10:09 You've got karma. All right. Thank you very much Monsieur Portenier Jeff McReynolds $250 and one penny in Heath, Texas He writes in, it's time for my annual birthday donation. I turned 51 last Tuesday, September 28th. I'm sure he's on the list. And when it, cause it's in yellowish. And when I went to look at my donation records, I realized I hadn't donated since Big Show 1000. Bad on me. So I'm sending a larger than normal donation to make up for my being a slacker. I hope this helps as this is my favorite podcast and I would be extremely depressed if it was gone. You and me both. Congrats to Adams on the engagement, hoping to get a live stream wedding for the No Agenda fans.

1:11:01 Yeah, that's... Now let me say something. Because of course, you know, I'm a guy, you know, I do the whole thing, I set it up, I think I really did a great job on the proposal. But I forgot, like, oh yeah, now we can... And I was like, let's plan the wedding. I'm like, what? What? What? What? Do I have to do that? What? So I'm thinking, that's a great idea. We stream the wedding so no one has to come to Austin. We can be actually in any location in the world. Everyone can be everyone could participate in a was very apartment. I could well in the Cluedo We could be anywhere and instead of throwing a big wedding party. We send everybody a piece of cake and a stream URL Yeah, yeah

1:11:52 Send John C. Dvorak some jobs karma. Thanks to those bus stars At PC magazine my PC mag subscription has been cancelled. I know they had a subscription I guess it's time to get serious about this podcasting thing as for jingles I'd like just the one the Russian connection spoof from the old Kermit the Frog rainbow collection connection connection Yeah, and thanks for all you do guys and there's Yes Thank you very much Jeff, thank you for your courage. So many dudes think that this is just weak news I know they're wrong way Let's play the whole thing today. It's almost done. Somewhere we'll find it The Russia connection The Donald, the Putin and the... Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs!

1:13:04 It is very well done. That's very well done. One of our best. By one of our best. Yes. David Weed, Three Rivers, Michigan. Walker Ostler did that. Well, he's one of our best. He is one of our best. David Weed in Three Rivers, Michigan, 21312. Love the T-B-P-I-T-U. Best wishes to Adam and Tina for their future together and best of luck to John in finding more lucrative gigs. And then he makes them come up. That wasn't a gig, it was a career! A gig in PCMag that brrrr. Cleaning out the PayPal account and requesting jobs covered for producers, especially for the wife and myself, as both our jobs are currently a bit shaky.

1:13:52 Please also put me on the birthday list for October 5th. I keep up the entertaining analysis. I'm always looking forward to the next show. I hope to cross over into knighthood sometime next year. Peace and love. Beautiful. Thank you very much, David Weed. And onward to Gretchen. Gretchen Wittig. Parts Unknown at 200 bucks. I'd like to arrange a producer credit posthumously for the Blue Knight, Brian Wojtek, who passed away suddenly, unexpectedly, and well before his time in August. Oh my goodness. Yes. I first met Brian when I sat across the tail from him and his lovely wife, Carith a couple of years ago at a No Agenda meetup in Dallas. Adam had driven the Airstream of Consciousness up from Austin for the meetup. I remember, yeah. Brian and Keith had just moved to Dallas from Chicago, but they didn't know a lot of people. As it turns out, Brian and I worked for the same company in the same office downtown. But it was our love of No Agenda that really brought us all together. In the happy hours, brewery visits, MLS games.

1:14:51 and general good time since I've come to know Brian is a truly genuine thoughtful caring and generous person an exemplary member of the roundtable he and Kareth had been college sweethearts in the way they've supported each other throughout their lives is the stuff of fairy tales no jingles but please do a lot of generous round of karma to all of Brian's friends and loved ones we'll miss him dearly I'd also like to request that his fellow Knights and dames and all listening raise a glass and a farewell toast to our blue knight at today's knighting ceremony Thanks for all you're doing to build this amazing community soon to be Dame G Gretchen here here raising a glass. Absolutely. Well, that sucks. Yeah, totally All right. Yes a karma to send you on your way our friend You've got karma

CHAPTER 23 / 47 Discussion

European Meetups and New Knighting of Sir Rod

A meetup is announced for November 9th in the Netherlands, hosted by Sir D. The hosts also welcome Roderick Velo of the TPO Podcast to the roundtable as "Sir Rod." One host reminisces about their shared history in the Dutch pirate radio scene.

netherlands· friesland· roderick velo· tpo podcast· pirate radio

1:15:45 Sir D and Hollands. Oh, Hollands Sherading. Wow. Hollands Sherading. Interesting. In Netherlands. ITM gentlemen, an extra donation to show my support. He's in over 200. Together with Sir Robert of Easton, Connecticut, who is visiting the lowlands, I'd like to host a meetup at my company near Ultraschd, Friday, November 9th. 9-11 in Dutch. Okay, so where is this going to be? Details will follow. Okay, so it's on the 9th. Wow, better hurry up. We only have five days. It's a month. Oh, it's November. November, November. I'm sorry, I thought it was October. Ah, I might be there.

1:16:30 I might, I might be. You can pack him in. It's actually kind of possible. Okay, that would be great. Sir D of the Hollandse Rading, and he says for current and future Frisian knights, that's from, they're from Friesland, the Wales of the Netherlands, could you please add Sukerboel and Jouster Bierenburg to the roundtable? Okay, done That's some very very traditional old-school Frisian stuff. I want to mention something here You have never done a meetup in Holland. I have long time ago. Yes. Yes a long time ago That's when we just yeah when the meat is sort of big around. Yeah, our browned episode 100 probably oh, yeah, that's too No, no nowadays you pack them in yeah

1:17:15 You should be able to get everyone from Holland, Belgium, Germany, Deutschland, and maybe some Swiss. Some Belgians, Deutschland, yeah. Maybe a Brit or two, although I don't know. Nah, it's too much work. Yeah, it is. Although, easy jet is easy. Well, great. Thank you very much, Sir D. And yes, send us details so we can also send out, John can send something out to Targeted. To the region. Yeah, Eric will do the same. He's got a separate mailing list. Oh, have you ever thought of merging? I like the idea the way it works. Yes. And then, holy moly, look who comes in. And then holy moly. Yeah, it's holy moly. He's a knight. Roderick Velo. Roderick Velo from the TPO podcast. Yeah. This is our guy. Now what's the name of that podcast? Because somebody asked me. TPO. TPO.

1:18:19 Okay, in the morning. I'm in contact with the suburban entertaining media construction these last weeks when the circus goes nuts your show is needed more than ever I think this donation gives me a place at the roundtable I'd like to take a seat as sir rod keep up the great work going I don't think he's on the list he is not on the list I'm putting it on now Roderick Velo I guess he just wants to be Sir Velo. No, Sir Rod. Oh, Sir Rod. Sir Rod. Sir Rod. Now we have a Sir Rod Adams, but not just... It doesn't matter. Yeah, that's fine. We... There's no Sir Rod just like Sir Rod. Sir Rod, Sir Rod. Excellent. Holy moly. I'll say it again. I'm humbled. Holy moly. You're gonna say that again? I'm humbled. You know, I'm humbled. This is a professional. This is a guy who I've worked with and I think is good.

1:19:09 Oh, he's one of your old drinking buddies? From the pirate radio days. A running buddy. From the pirate radio days. Oh, how old is he? Or my age. Maybe he's just 50, a little under. Watch him be 40. No, he can't be more than 3 or 4 years younger than me. He may be older. I don't know. My age. Old. Old and white. Old and white and a podcaster. Marriage material right there, ladies. Where did all the old white guys go? Are they in that valley they talked about in that Anne Rand book? No, they've all become podcasters.

CHAPTER 24 / 47 Discussion

New York City Production Assistant Request

The show issues a call for a "Dude named Ben" or "Dudette named Bernadette" in Manhattan to assist with an upcoming high-level interview on November 2nd. The position requires someone with audio engineering experience and professional equipment to manage the production end of a remote interview.

manhattan· production· audio engineering· interview· dude named ben

1:19:50 We have another show. Well, first I want to thank these people for being an executive producer, our one executive producer and our associate executive producers and future knights. This is going to be exciting. These titles are real. You can use them wherever titles are understood and accepted. And if there's ever an issue, we will gladly vouch for you. We still have that much clout in the entertainment industry. I will be thanking more people, $50 and above, in our second segment. And thank you again for supporting us. Our next show is coming up on Sunday. You can support us at... That's right! Where old white guys go to podcasts. Spread the word! Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order!

1:20:43 Do you want to mention here that we need a dude named Ben yeah, we yeah we do actually November 2nd John will be interviewing a I would say a a level artist Person and put it that way person not artist See I'm trying to confuse them and then you like kind of well, I do yeah, but okay an a-level person You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right an a-level person in New York City Just like when I interviewed Pachinic we need a dude named Ben or dudette named Bernadette Who understands audio has a microphone with you know, either appropriate set up with Skype or processing with a laptop?

1:21:32 You know, we'll set everything up with you to test it first. Someone who's in the area who can go be on the production end, so a true... In Manhattan. In Manhattan, a true production job, which I think includes another credit as well. Yeah, it includes a credit on the show. Which I think we did that for, yeah we did. We did the thing in Florida. So November 2nd if you're in New York City and you really know how to do this and you've done mics and you've done a pod... Hey, are you a podcaster? Are you in Manhattan? November 2nd, give us a call. You'll enjoy, yeah, I decided not to mention who this is gonna be.

1:22:15 But I can't figure out why I shouldn't tell you, but I'll think about it. But you would like to meet this guy. Yeah, and it'd be fantastic to listen to. Well, hopefully. Yeah, I think so. New book coming out. That's the kind of the tie in that lets you do these things. Let me ease us into Kavanaugh for a second without playing anything from Kavanaugh, but Lindsey Graham. Who, now everyone of course has noticed how, you know, how Lindsey's perked up and he's found his voice. I would actually say, Lindsey, 2020, think about it.

CHAPTER 25 / 47 Discussion

Jimmy Kimmel and Gay Jokes Targeting Lindsey Graham

The hosts play a clip of Jimmy Kimmel making a joke comparing Senator Lindsey Graham to someone on "Liberace's piano bench." They point out the irony of mainstream media figures making "gay jokes" at the expense of Republicans while claiming to be defenders of the LGBTQ community.

jimmy kimmel· lindsey graham· liberace· lgbtq· media hypocrisy

1:22:54 Well, he did want to be president this time and maybe he's working. He's learned a lot from Trump. He has and I will prove it as he was on, I don't know, some bull crap. Before you do that, I have a clip I want to play. Remember I said I was going to ease us into it? Yeah, well this will ease us into it because this is one of the things you pointed out in the last show, which is while he is maybe running for president, the gay jokes. Oh. Yeah, about Lindsey Graham. Yeah, and this is more people are starting to see this but it's it's everywhere. I've seen compilations.

1:23:29 of everybody making fun of Lindsey Graham with a gay joke. Well, here's Jimmy Kimmel. Some of the Republican senators put on quite a show of fabricated outrage today, in particular Lindsey Graham. Once Dr. Ford was safely out of the room, Lindsey Graham really laid down the law. He warned Democrats that if this is the new normal, if this is the way it's going to go, they better watch out for their Supreme Court nominees. As if Merrick Garland isn't out there somewhere judging a dog show right now. And once he got some camera time, somebody must have told Lindsey Graham Donald Trump was watching because he lit up like someone left a thumbtack on Liberace's piano bench. Oh brother. Yeah, yeah, oh brother. I'd say the same thing. So next time someone talks about the LGBTQ community, which of course should be L-G-G-B-T-T-Q-Q-I-A-A-P-K, you should say, buzz off.

CHAPTER 26 / 47 Discussion

Lindsey Graham's New Political Persona

Senator Lindsey Graham's recent aggressive defense of Brett Kavanaugh is analyzed. The hosts discuss Graham's use of a "trailer park" reference—originally a James Carville quote about Paula Jones—and his newfound "Maverick" status following the death of John McCain. They suggest Graham is successfully adopting Trump-like tactics to engage with his critics.

lindsey graham· james carville· paula jones· john mccain· atlantic council

1:24:26 There's no community. That's nasty. Yeah, but the thing is it everyone their tone deaf to it everyone who's doing this. It's hilarious I mean, I just don't I am like how can you not see what you're? Okay Remind me to come back to this after this Lindsey Graham thing. Oh Because there was another tone-deaf moment in the UK. So Lindsey Graham's on some damn show and let's see, what is this first one? He comes out, he... oh yes, he needs a little work, he can't... the timing is a little off, I didn't quite hit it with the punchline, but he did something pretty interesting.

1:25:08 when it was talking about Judge Kavanaugh and in this case comparison to things that have happened in the past. If the president is listening to you right now... And he could be because he watches a lot of television. If he's listening right now, what would you say to him about his performance last night in which he openly disparaged a person who is alleging that she was a victim of sexual assault by a Supreme Court nominee? I said, hey, I can figure this out. Everything he said was factual. He's frustrated his nominee has been treated so badly. Factual is a personal degrading attack on someone who is a private citizen. You know, here's what's personally degrading. This is what you get when you go through a trailer park with a $100 bill.

1:25:50 This is what you get when you go through a trailer park with a hundred dollar bill, which of course the audience went, oh. That's actually a reference to something somebody said. And James Carville. See this is where he screwed it up. It was a great trap. It was a great idea because that's actually what James Carville said about, was it Paula Jones? Yeah, I think it's Paula Jones or one of the other women that Clinton. No He said this is what you get when you run through a trailer park with $100 bill and you the audience like oh But then Lindsay couldn't pay it off by saying yeah, that's what James Carville said about Paula Jones Bill Clinton But he's getting there. Well, at least he's he might have a writer. Yeah, but yeah, but you got to have delivery You got to have time. He's a coach. He needs a coach. He needs a writer and a coach Yeah, it doesn't take a genius to do this sort of material. I

1:26:45 No, it doesn't, but he's close. Here's one other piece from this. So President Trump went through a factual rendition that I didn't particularly like and I would tell him knock it off. You're not helping. Knock it off, Trump! But it can be worse. You can actually kill somebody's cat and puncture their tires to get them to shut up. So, you know, What he said. I don't even understand what that means. Well, you don't remember Kathleen Willey and Juanita Broderick, so you don't. I do. I don't remember the thing about the cat, but what's the point? The point is that Donald Trump could have said something even worse, so we should be thankful. The point is that we've come a long way. We've come a long way since 1990. All right, all right, all right. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. No, no, wait a minute. Whether you like it or not, I really don't care. Here's the point. I have seen what happened to these women in 1998 that came forward.

1:27:33 I don't like what the president said last night. I'm the first person to say I want to hear from Dr. Ford. I thought she was handled respectfully. I thought Kavanaugh was treated like crap. Yeah, well boo yourself. Well boo yourself! Okay, here's the only coaching Lindsey Graham needs. Hold on, hold on. Who was interviewing him? It was the Atlantic Council, I think, one of those stage things they video and put online. Oh, okay. All right. I just wanted to know if it was on a TV show. Well, does it matter anymore if it's on video? Well, it doesn't, but I just wanted to know who it was, because the guy was kind of a douche. So here's my advice for Lindsey. It kind of just hit me. And if he really wants it bad enough, even if you're not, just come out as gay. Man, America's first gay president. Fantastic.

1:28:30 And he can do that stuff. Oh yeah, well boo to you. I mean, can you just imagine that? How cool that would be? Well, I don't think he'd be America's first gay president. He'd be America's third. First openly gay, running on gay platform president. Yeah, he'd be the third gay president. I'm just saying, maybe he should try. If he's not gay, he should give it a shot. Why not? It's not a bad strategy. Well, he should get the gay vote, you'd think. But you know, the way things go, because he's not a Democrat, gay Democrat, I think he might not even get the gay vote. Oh, he's a bad gay. Yes, bad gay. Yeah, you're right. He's the wrong kind of gay. Well, I still think it's a great idea. Because he's got the fire, you know? He's like, well, boo to you too. He's finally getting it. Yeah, he's finally got his backbone. And he'd say to Trump, he'd say, hey, cut it out, Prez.

1:29:27 I like him. I think he's got something going for him. No, he's definitely better than he was a year ago Yeah, well, you know sometimes this happens, you know when? After McCain passed away then mentor. Yeah, it was time for him to cease before he could snatch the pebbles from his hand He spread his wings and flew away. He is the new maverick or maverick Well, I got it Well, let's see what else we got here. I have a couple of things. I do have the

CHAPTER 27 / 47 Discussion

The Kavanaugh "Bart" Letter and FBI Investigation

The hosts discuss a 1983 letter written by Brett Kavanaugh regarding "beach week," in which he referred to himself and friends as "loud, obnoxious drunks." They mock the media's "Nancy Drew" style investigation into the nickname "Bart" and debate whether Trump actually wants Kavanaugh confirmed or if he would prefer to move on to another candidate like Amy Coney Barrett.

brett kavanaugh· fff bart· mark judge· fbi· scotus vote

1:30:07 Democracy Now's little thing about this letter that showed up that Kavanaugh supposedly wrote. I don't have a lot of Kavanaugh clips, so you want to look at it. Remember, I led you into the Kavanaugh with my Lindsey Graham. That was the whole idea. The whole Kavanaugh thing is kind of like crapped out, it seems, at this point in time. Well, that's because of the stupid... Do you think maybe Trump reinserted that story into the New York Times just to get everyone talking about something else? It was so... No way, no. I think there was a mistake doing that story about Trump's... about Fred Trump, the billionaire empire guy. I think that was mistimed. I think it could have held off. I think that was just done to hurt Trump in the election or hurt the candidates running, you know, that were Republicans. It's an anti-Republican thing. It was dumb. It didn't work and it was dumb.

1:30:53 The only one I have for Kavanaugh that's kind of new is his letter, his supposed letter. And this is the FFF Bart. Which has some funny lines in it. By the way, there's some clippables in here. I should have ISO'd a couple of these. Lawyers for another Kavanaugh accuser, Debbie Ramirez, said Tuesday the FBI had not interviewed another 20 witnesses Ramirez has identified. Meanwhile, the New York Times published a letter Kavanaugh wrote to his high school classmates in the summer of 1983 as he planned a beach week celebration on Maryland's coast. The letter, which Kavanaugh signed, FFFFF Bart.

1:31:30 urges the classmates to, quote, warn the neighbors that we're loud, obnoxious drunks with prolific pukers among us, unquote. Kavanaugh was 18 at the time. Maryland had just raised his its drinking age to 21. He signed the letter Bart, not Brett. Bart O'Kavanaugh is the name that his friend Mark Judge used in his book Wasted. Good work, Nancy Drew. FFFF Bart. What kind of a name is that? Well, FFF, the whole FFF thing was supposed to stand for F them, like a couple F's to them, then forget them. Yeah, it's derogatory towards chicks, man. It's funny when you're in high school, man. Why Bart? I don't know. He was from the 80s. Maybe he was, maybe it's a Bart Simpson reference. It might be, but why? It's the same time.

1:32:30 Yeah, you're right. Could be a Bart Simpson thing. So here's a good story that didn't get it. Wait, wait, wait, question. Is this guy going to get confirmed? Do you think this is going to happen? Well, this is today. We have to make the decision, is he or not. Is it today? I thought it was tomorrow. It's Thursday. It's supposed to be Thursday. I thought the vote was tomorrow. OK, well, that's better. I hope it is tomorrow. Because, you know, I'm still thinking Trump doesn't care, wants to get Barrett on. No, I don't think Trump cares. He would probably be able to leverage whatever happens. The vote is on F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-

1:33:30 For Trump's agenda in my mind it will be best if he didn't go through that I agree that for his it would be best if he didn't make it through and yeah, he's Trump's probably counting on the cows The vote that mean he can still withdraw before the vote Trump could withdraw him before the vote? I doubt it. No, he has to either. It's got to be thumbs up, thumbs down. But in the overall scheme of he's a Bush guy, he's a Yaley, he's clearly a dick. Yeah, clearly. Why would you want this guy in the Supreme Court? Forget about all that's going on right now.

CHAPTER 28 / 47 Discussion

Vince Foster Suicide and Kavanaugh's Starr Team Role

A report from the Telegraph is discussed, alleging that Brett Kavanaugh was involved in strong-arming witnesses during the investigation into Vince Foster's death while serving on Kenneth Starr's team. The hosts explore the "loose ends" of the Foster suicide and Kavanaugh's historical ties to the Clinton investigations.

vince foster· kenneth starr· bill clinton· fbi 302· telegraph

1:34:13 They want him on because of his decisions. He's made like 300 plus decisions that all really appeal to the conservative heart. Did you see this Telegraph article in the UK? Let me see, where is it here? The Unbearable Dishonesty of Brett Kavanaugh. And it's from a journalist who writes... Oh yes, he used to be the editor of the Telegraph. who writes about his running with Kavanaugh when Kavanaugh was on the Kenneth Starr team and According to what this guy wrote was strong-arming people into you know like changing their testimony Official 302 FBI 302 testimony, you know, there was all kinds of threats going on and was specifically about the Vince Foster murder

1:35:06 Uh, I'm sorry. A suicide. And, you know, the FBI lost the pictures that showed possibly a neck wound instead of him shooting himself in the head twice with a gun in his left hand. And there's all this stuff surrounding Vince Foster, which, man, I bring it up to people, they go, oh, really? Really? You're going to bring that up again? I said, it's really got some loose ends there. It truly is. I'm not saying, you know, the Clintons killed him, but of course the Clintons killed him. That's how it works. You don't be friends with the Clinton. The Clinton clan. You know, so that may come up again. I don't know. There's stuff that may come up. No, I don't think it's coming up. I think the vote will be taking place and it'll be over. And the whole thing with Vince Foster and the fact that Kavanaugh seems to be on the Clinton side, maybe an operative for the Clintons. You know, it's possible. But I'm guessing... Here's one. Are there any Republicans who could flip

1:36:10 and say no that are currently up for re-election? No, only the two women. Oh, they're the only ones up for re-election? No, they're not up for re-election. They're just the two guilty women that did So no one is voting on Senator. These people have to be up. They're already set. There's already laid out. There's three Democrats who are the ones that could be voted out of office if they don't make the right decision. And the two Republican women, there's five people that are on the fence. They've already identified all of them. I mean, I guess some surprise. I mean, I'm just saying. Jim Flake says he's voting for the guy no matter what, so Flake is not on this list anymore. Flake didn't say that.

CHAPTER 29 / 47 Discussion

Jeff Flake's "Rock Star" Status and Family Controversy

Senator Jeff Flake is criticized for his "rock star" treatment at the Global Citizens Festival in New York. The hosts contrast this public adulation with a local news report about Flake's son, who allegedly posted disturbing videos and derogatory tweets. They suggest Flake is "full of himself" and disconnected from his parenting responsibilities.

jeff flake· global citizens festival· chris coons· 60 minutes· youtube

1:36:51 Yeah, when he did I don't have the clip in front of me, but yeah, he said it. He said if we do the week as long as we have a week, the week of FBI. Yeah. By the way, here's a clip from Access Hollywood regarding Senator Flake, who, and I miss this and I'm pissed, the Global Citizens Festival took place again this past weekend in New York. I'm angry. I love watching those globalist douchebags. Oh, they're great. Here's a little Access Hollywood report, which of course is giggly. All right. We know somebody who ran into Senator Jeff Flake. LaKendra Tuksery joins us once again. She was at the Global Citizens Festival this weekend. And he was there as well. He was there and he wasn't in an elevator this time. But him and Senator Chris Coons were on stage together. I thought it was fantastic. A Republican senator and a Democratic senator.

1:37:43 coming together on stage, the whole crowd could feel it in that moment. And when I saw him, I was just, everybody was clamoring around him like he was a rock star. Everybody was shaking his hand saying thank you. So many women were saying thank you. Even I said, I thanked him. You got a selfie. I took a selfie. I got a hug. I said, you're gonna get this hug whether you want it or not. I'm gonna give you this hug. Good for you. Well, Senator Flake also was on 60 Minutes this weekend, busy for- Yeah, he's a rock star. Let's play the clip that nobody's playing. Play this one. This is a local story. Jeff Flake's kid. But first, a disturbing video on YouTube. Senator Jeff Flake's son putting a gun to his head and pretending to kill himself. The video surfacing after this teenager was caught tweeting derogatory terms for blacks, Jews and homosexuals.

1:38:34 Thanks for choosing us this afternoon. I'm Katie Rammel. And I'm Steve Irvin. The senator is apologizing for his son's insensitivity. ABC 15's Naveeda Fergani joining us from the newsroom. Naveeda, a lot of people are saying this shows just how tough it is for parents to raise kids with all of the technology out there. Yeah, things are a whole lot different right now. Kids about so many things and even those free apps on your child's phone allow them to do some pretty creative but sometimes pretty disturbing things and the best advice is to stay one step ahead of your child and talk to them when problems surface which is something that is happening probably right now in Senator Flake's home after his son posted on YouTube and Twitter some very inappropriate comments towards blacks, Jews and homosexuals using the n-word in some of his tweets and most recently disturbing video of his son holding a gun to his head and pretending to pull a trigger. There is no foolproof way from preventing your child from using these sites, posting or even using violent apps but it is important to explain to your kids that

1:39:34 Once something goes on cyberspace, there is no way to take it back. Don't put it on cyberspace. Okay, first of all, it was a plastic toy gun, which is just, it doesn't matter, but it wasn't mentioned in the report. She keeps saying, put a gun to his head, put a gun to his head. It was a very obvious gray plastic gun. Yeah. But you know, he's demeaning the ethnic groups and... He's out of control. I mean, this is poor parenting. That's what it is. I saw the videos and looked at the tweets and it just looks like a typical kid who's all into the hip-hop culture. That's what that is.

1:40:15 Yeah, I think it's poor parenting. But I don't never happen to my kids your daughter wasn't out there putting stuff like this on. My daughter has done lots of things that are really not I'm not proud of. Poor parenting. I'm a horrible parent. I don't know, you know, power and fame. It's an aphrodisiac. Jeff Flake, you know, he could get a little overwhelmed at the Global Citizens Festival. I did get a letter from somebody who met Flake. Unfortunately, I don't have it as part of today's show, but I'll bring it up for the next show. And he says the guy's so full of himself, he's just like, you know, he's just not even in the room. Yeah.

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San Francisco Transit Terminal Structural Issues

An update is provided on the structural failures at the new San Francisco transit terminal. The hosts confirm that American steel was used in the construction and attribute the cracked beams to poor design or specification errors, citing general corruption in California infrastructure projects.

san francisco· transit terminal· american steel· engineering· corruption

1:41:06 Hey, I went back and checked and I don't know if you have any update on the San Francisco Transit Terminal. Oh, yeah You have an update. I don't have a clip. No. Oh it I have a verbal update It definitely is American steel that was used. Yeah. Well, let's reuse Chinese steel from now on I guess I Mean is that just an engineering mistake or how does that happen? I would assume so. Oh Like in the actual structure of the building. I think it was designed poorly or they spec'd it out wrong. I mean, it's always possible. That's pretty fundamental to this whole deal. Well, the whole thing is, California is basically a corrupt state. And so when something like this happens, it doesn't surprise anybody.

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Army Futures Command Moves to Austin

The Army Futures Command has officially established its headquarters in Austin, Texas, bringing 500 personnel and a reported $16 billion to invest in local startups. The hosts note the increasing concentration of military, intelligence, and tech giants like Google and Amazon in the Austin area.

army futures command· austin· startups· venture capital· military

1:41:58 So big news here in Austin as the Army Futures Command has finally come to town with 500 people to start with. We have that impact news newspaper which is a weekly that everyone gets and just could have been big front cover page and So they've taken possession of a building which is not far from here, 8th Street. So you have 500 people to start, but here's the kicker. They are bringing in, as reported by Impact, $16 billion to invest in startups in Austin.

CHAPTER 32 / 47 Discussion

Inside a YouTube Content Moderation Farm

A "tier one agent" working at a YouTube content moderation farm in Austin provides an anonymous look into the industry. The agent describes moving from the "adult content queue" to the "violent extremism queue," which is largely staffed by Arabic speakers. The note reveals that high-profile bans, such as that of Alex Jones, are handled by full-time employees rather than contractors.

youtube· content moderation· violent extremism· alex jones· austin

1:42:43 You're screwed, dude. Wow! No wonder Kim Jong-un had that map with the missiles pointing it to Austin. He knew what was up. This is where it's at. We got Spooks, we got Army Futures Command, we got Google, we got Facebook. We have Amazon's headquarters for Whole Foods is here, who are not happy. By the way, I don't know if you saw this note. We got a note from a YouTube reviewer who works here in Austin. And did you see that note? No, I did not. You may as well read it. Yes, Private Dingle. Hey, Adam and John, I live in Austin and work at one of these content moderator farms for YouTube.

1:43:31 You guys are right on the money and on topic so far and if you'd like any more insight I'd love to provide details and answer any questions you may have so get ready with your questions John. Full disclosure I'm only a bottom-rung tier one quote agent but have access to the YouTube policies we implement. All the juicy Alex Jones banning related details are unfortunately only for full-time employees and up. Ain't that interesting? Yeah, obviously I'm not an FTE YouTube contracts a company that hires workers who then get contracted by a different company That's how I'm in the business

1:44:09 A buddy worked for Facebook in Austin in the exact same way dealing with the same companies We got to find out who these companies are. Yes is what we should be doing I started in this project back in January and was assigned a cue after training which is basically a school of videos that you Specialize in through the training. I began in the adult content cue. Yes There's a no agenda producer for you ladies and gentlemen straight to the point. There was no adult content allowed on YouTube right well these are the guys who look at it and then decide if it can be up or not Okay, but as of about a month ago. I got reassigned to the violent extremism Q Yeah, which is video uploads of recruiting and or glorifying? terrorist organizations cartels and gangs lone wolves general incitement of violence etc and

1:45:03 That's pretty broad. Barring all the obvious horrible visuals, the porn queue was much more subjective policy-wise. I'd love to see the porn queue policy. I bet you would. Most of the agents I work with now are Arabic speakers, 80 to 90 percent, from all over the Middle East and seem well equipped mentally to handle the material. It's a culture. I consider myself mentally resilient as well and all is good so far. Keep checking in. We are your dead man switch. If I don't see an email from you at least once a week, I'm going to be concerned. I apologize if I'm all over the place as there is a lot to clarify. I'll leave it at that for now. Please feel free to reply with any questions on the subject if you guys are interested. Thanks again to you and John. Yeah, I love this. We'd love to know a little bit more about the policies and yeah, obviously we can keep you anonymous and do whatever we need to do.

1:46:02 But please check in once a week. We are your dead man switch for sure. I want to make sure you're healthy. Yeah, I probably have a few questions about one thing or another. Well, let's compile a list and we'll send it off to him. I mean how much do you have to watch before you realize that... The first question I'd have, and I just mentioned this right now, is do they inform the authorities when they see anything that's off? Good question. Good question. And then do the authorities watch it? My question would be how many days did you work there before you lost all faith in humanity would be my question. Because that when you see what goes up, what goes up and comes down or never makes it up,

1:46:47 I bet it's it really messes with your perception of the world. Yeah, we're horrible as people Well, that's I mean, of all the people you know who that you personally know, and I would say the same thing for myself, actually would put up some gross video. No, no, I wouldn't say that. But of all the people I knew, no, including you and me, who would say something horrible or mean about somebody in public as long as it's on a social network, or if you say the name Mark Pugner. Yeah, I think I think everyone's like that. We're ugly. Yes. You say something mean about somebody's not the same as putting a head chopping video on and chuckling over it? Tell that to YouTube and Twitter. They'll take you right down. Yeah. Anyway, hang in there. It's not gonna happen. I have a health update because I've got something very spectacular that I wanted to share with you. I was at the voodoo doctor for the ragweed which he fixed. Which he fixed.

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Brain and Memory Enhancing Supplements

One host shares a health update regarding a new regimen of Ginkgo Forte and Bacopa Complex recommended by a doctor for mental clarity. The discussion touches on the "placebo effect" and the use of Quercetin for reducing inflammation caused by mold and ragweed.

ginkgo forte· bacopa complex· quercetin· memory· supplements

1:47:54 He said, actually he put me back on a little bit of quercetin, which I take for the mold because it's an inflammation reducing herb. Yeah, it's very famous stuff. It's supposed to be good antioxidant, makes you live longer. Yeah, and he put me on, I think, Siloplex or some other potion in a pill. But then we were talking about stuff and he says, hey, you know, I went to this seminar before a guy who was at UT and about some brain and memory enhancing stuff. And I said, I'm fine, man, take B12. He says, oh, this is better than B12. You'll notice it immediately. And I do.

1:48:35 Immediately I'm not kidding. I have I feel there's clarity, but you're susceptible to the placebo effect to an extreme Well, I want you to write this down because you should try these you take it's Ginkgo G-i-n-k-g-o Ginkgo actually Ginkgo forte and Bacopa complex. Yeah, I've got Bacopa. You got Bacopa? Okay. Yeah, you take do you take it regularly? No, I take it every once in a while. I've had it for a while. Well, he says that if you take both and then you run out of one, then you'll know if it was the ginkgo that was working for you or the bacopa. So I'm not sure. But you think the bacopa, maybe the, what is the, it's just an herb, right? Bacopa? Yeah, it's, Buzzkill Jr. turned me onto it.

1:49:25 Yeah, there you go. The scientist, oh yeah, he looked at the molecule structure and he's like, it's just like meth. This is great. Okay, if Buzzkill Jr. approved, then I'm pretty sure the Bacopa is the magic. Just a little tip here from your NOA Agenda show. Alright, well I've got a couple of things here. There's one thing I found very interesting a very long clip I cut it down to two short clips and took out the middle because the middle is just too long But this is Michael Caputo who used to work on the Trump campaign and he thinks he knows Oh, this is the guy this is the guy who got who? Lost a lot of money was sued didn't have to go in and he was being accused of all kinds of stuff and

CHAPTER 34 / 47 Discussion

Speculation on the Anonymous "Lodestar" Op-Ed Author

Former Trump campaign aide Michael Caputo suggests the anonymous New York Times op-ed was written by a high-ranking female official who views herself as a hero. The hosts speculate that CIA Director Gina Haspel is a likely candidate, citing her journalism background, military ties, and connections to the "Brennan program" at the agency.

michael caputo· lodestar· gina haspel· mike pence· new york times

1:50:12 I don't know. I don't think so. I think you're thinking of Cohen. No, no. Caputo too. But the point is that he thinks he knows who the letter writer is who wrote that anonymous letter. Oh, the anonymous letter. Ah! And I think I know maybe who he might be talking about and I'm going to mention it. All right, joining me right now former Trump campaign director Michael Caputo. So Michael good to see you Do you think the White House is giving credibility to the writer by these high-level? Officials coming out and saying it's not me well I think each one of those people has to do that and and the the media the New York Times in particular has set that up and the writer itself the I believe the writers a coward and

1:50:52 But also, I believe they're diabolical. I mean, the way they wrote that op-ed, or the ghostwriter wrote the op-ed, they dropped in words like lodestar to indicate that it might be Mike Pence and words like first principles, very common to the speeches that General Mattis gives to throw some shade at him. And then they dropped in that off the rails comment that comes from the Woodward book that's attributed to General Kelly. And that's, to me, gaslighting the president, which is very diabolical, into believing that one of his key aides is really you know, plotting against him. But if it's insignificant, why is it the White House keeps talking about it, keeps throwing out its top-level folks to say or comment about it? It wasn't me. I don't know anything about this. It's a terrible thing. But they keep bringing it up, which only gives this writer more power, does it not?

1:51:47 I'll tell you, I'm not one of the ones who believes this is insignificant. I've been screaming from the top of my lungs for several weeks now that we're going to lose the House of Representatives, the Democrats are going to take over, and that they're going to impeach the president in the first quarter of 2019. This op-ed to me is part of that strategy. This person, who I believe is in the senior ranks of the administration, wrote this in order to try and dampen turnout of the deplorables who would normally go out in droves to vote for the president's candidates, the Republican candidates for Congress in particular, so we can maintain control the house. Let me tell you, Frederica, I'm fairly certain I know who it is. I've been, you know, going through this parlor game just like everybody else has and I'm also completely 100% certain that the person who wrote this is on the list of people who said they didn't write it. Okay. Okay, so we got a couple of possibilities here now in the second, the next clip which there's another clip missing it because it's too long I just left it out and I'm gonna say what was in it.

1:52:46 He says this person is the department head and it's in a department where all the Trump supporters were ousted. IRS? Well, it could be the IRS. It could be the IRS. I didn't consider the IRS. Was all the Trump supporters ousted from the IRS? Probably not. Somewhere they were ousted. I know one place where I think a lot of them were ousted because they're re-org-ing the whole place. Oh, the parks and recreation? No, it's a TV show. Well anyway, let's play the second half of this and then there's a slight, he has one tell, which gives me a little hint. I believe the White House is getting closer to it. I love the fact that Mike Pence is standing up. Well how come you know when they don't? Well I believe they're getting there. I have my opinions. You know, I started with this. Who is the person who I believe hates the president the most? Who is the person in the administration who has screamed about him in their own private office and gone forward

1:53:45 and purge their entire office of Trump people. That's where I'm looking at. The language of the op-ed, I think, is useless to look at because it's a ghostwriter. If we did like we did... Remember when Primary Colors came out and they actually compared the writing through a software program and discovered that it was Klein that wrote that book. I believe that would be useless in this regard because ghostwriters write for dozens and dozens of people. It's not going to get us any closer. We'll be able to identify the ghostwriter, but then we'd have to get the ghostwriter to tell us who this person is. All right. Are you thinking it's a matter of days, weeks or months? I'll tell you this.

1:54:25 I think that first of all this person will never admit it because in my mind the author of this op-ed believes that she is a hero to the American people, that she in fact should be president instead of Donald Trump. And in my mind I believe that the president should move forward with a team of people to discover who this is. But the president himself should focus on the midterms because we're going down a rabbit hole by gaslighting the president into believing his closest aides with those clever words dropped in that sophomore year are plotting against him. They're sending him down a rabbit hole instead of off onto the hustings where he should be campaigning for Republican candidates so that we keep the House and embolden the Senate in support of the president's policies. If he focuses on this instead of the campaign trail, we are in real trouble.

1:55:14 All right, well he said she that was pretty obvious Okay, well so I just kind of did a few things here to kind of you know for one thing the writer was a professional or the ghost writer whoever was but they had the idea of Putting these little phrases in which we spotted when we read the letter. Mm-hmm Lodestar and the rest of it so the thing was very well structured was structured professionally at a level where that was like not it was non-trivial was high-end then it was Printed by the New York Times, which is connected to different agencies already and they took it. No problem, right? I mean, there's no way no it's gonna get busted. So there's a connection in New York Times and there's one head of one of these major operations in the government who has a journalism degree Who is this Gina Haspel?

CHAPTER 35 / 47 Discussion

CIA Reorganization and Microsoft DNS Seizures

The discussion continues regarding a reorganization at the CIA under Gina Haspel, which allegedly involves purging Trump supporters. The hosts also revisit the Microsoft domain seizure story, clarifying that the company worked with federal authorities to force VeriSign to turn over DNS control of suspicious domains.

cia· gina haspel· john brennan· microsoft· verisign

1:56:14 Yeah, that would make sense because the connection with CIA. She's tightly connected to Brennan He did said only nice things about her coming in very good point see as she CIA it's it's the dear the defense against the Spooks we know this we know this is where it's at. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I can see that lodestar would work And you know she has a military background as well, and that might be something she would say yeah, I Well, good for her. We'll put it on her epitaph. Good for you, Gina. I don't know what they're going to do. The thing that's going on, which is kind of, I'm thinking about writing about it, but there's not much to write about. But there's a reorg that they're doing at the CIA, which is where they're getting rid of Trump people. And they're recruiting heavily. She's out everywhere recruiting. So there is a, I mean, the CIA did, if you recall that Trump gave a speech to the CIA regulars.

1:57:17 During his campaigning. Yeah, that was right after everyone. Oh, how dare he do that in front of the wall? The wall with all the stars? Yeah, there was that. But he got a, you know, it seems like a warm reception. I wonder if half those people are still working there that went to see Trump speak. So, it just makes a lot of sense that it's a she, by the way, that's a guy I mentioned. And there's only so many she's and most of them are like Betsy DeVos. I don't think she wrote this letter or the woman that's the head of Health and Human Services. It seems unlikely. Nielsen. Oh, yes. Doesn't seem likely.

1:58:01 fits and then Jean has brought in some of her own people which are ex-Brennan people and they're continuing the Brennan program of modernization if you look into it. It's the creation of this new data, the DDI. It's a new department that everything is going to be centralized. So now if you want to out some spooks, You can, it's all right there. You just have to hack this one group and you can get rid of all these guys in the field. I mean, you have to remember that it was Petraeus and Brennan and one other guy that were all in office in 2010 under the Obama administration trying to, that got

1:58:41 Like 20 guys executed in China, the entire China... Yeah, all our guys. Our guys. Our guys. Our guys, yeah. And gals. And who was running the CIA at the time? It was these Obama hacks. Let's listen to that. I found the clip of Trump at the CIA. Want to listen? Just see if there's anything there? Yeah, sure. Like if Tom Brady's on the cover, it's one time because he won the Super Bowl or something, right? I've been on for 15 times this year. I don't think that's a record, Mike, that can never be broken. Do you agree with that? What do you think? But I will say that they said it was very interesting that Donald Trump took down the bust, the statue. Oh, that was just all the campaign shit.

1:59:28 Yeah, nothing there. Nothing. Nothing there. Hmm. Well, I think that's a very, very... That's a big possibility, Ter. That's fun. Well, good. By the way, VoidZero and SirBemrose have already delivered the answer to me. At Microsoft, the way they capture the domain is they go to the feds and then the feds, I guess they get a court order And they served a court order against VeriSign, who was a very big registrar. And they turned the DNS over, but they turned it over to Microsoft, which that part I'm a little unsure about how that works. It's like, what, turn it over to me and forward it to the No Agenda Show. I mean, come on. Yeah, why don't we have the same opportunity? That's right. They're just giving it away to Microsoft. It's racist. It's totally racist. Can't believe those guys. All right. I got a beef with John Cleese.

CHAPTER 36 / 47 Discussion

John Cleese on British Media and Trump's UN Speech

Comedian John Cleese explains his decision to leave the UK, citing the "corruption" of the British press, which he claims is the least trusted in Europe. However, the hosts criticize Cleese for repeating a false media narrative that the UN General Assembly "laughed at" Donald Trump, pointing out that Cleese is falling for the very media bias he claims to despise.

john cleese· bbc· brexit· united nations· media trust

2:00:24 And the main crux of my, John Cleese of Monty Python fame and many, many, many others. Yeah, he's been out and about, he's leaving Great Britain to move to... No, no, no. He needs to leave because I've seen him on four shows now. I'm leaving, I'm leaving, I'm getting out, I'm leaving. He's Brexiting Brexit. I'm leaving. And so now he's on the morning show, I don't know if it was BBC or Channel 4, and he's, I'm leaving. And I just, there's a couple of oddities we need to discuss. First, the reason why he's leaving. Why he's decided he's going to be boycotting Britain. So you're leaving us? Is this true? Oh yeah, well I'm going to buzz off in November because I'm fed up with the corruption in this country. And in particular with just how awful the newspapers are.

2:01:06 and how the way in which they censor news, make sure that people in England don't know certain things, particularly anything critical to them. Because I don't think you can run a democracy until you have reasonably reliable information out there to help people make up their minds how they're going to vote. But do you think in one sense though the nice thing about this country is that people can express all sorts of opinions and were able to do that which isn't true in other countries around the world. Well it's probably not true in Russia or Myanmar or someone like that but I don't think you, I mean what people don't know for example is that quite recently the European Broadcasting Union did a poll of 33 European countries and they asked a thousand people in each country what's your level of trust in the printed media?

2:01:51 and England, UK became bottom. That was very low. Not very low, bottom. But maybe we're not very trustworthy. Hang on a second. Four years in a row. I played this clip. Not one fluke. No, this is almost the same story. Four years in a row, we have the press that's the least trusted press in Europe. It's the same story, but the next piece is different from his usual appearances because now he's starting to piss me off. Remember what he just said is the press is horrible in the UK. We're the bottom. We're the bottom of the room 33, which is a nice little number there.

2:02:31 Yeah, I like that. We're the bottom, we're the bottom! But you're moving to... close to the States and where a lot of your work is, but of course they have quite an interesting leader over there as well. Would you think that the political situation, does that appeal to you more over there, John? Oh no, no, no. I wouldn't go to America at the moment if the place is stark staring bad. Okay, Cleese. Noted. Bro, I mean the first time that Trump has ever spoken to an intelligent audience That wasn't dependent now. Remember he just was very clear how poorly the news is communicated Let's see what he's about to say

2:03:13 on his patronage was at the United Nations General Assembly two or three days ago when they laughed at him. That's the first time he's ever spoken to an intelligent audience. He normally talks... He coped very well with that though, you have to sort of... His comeback was very... His comeback I thought was... Well yes, but that's trivial Ben. It's true that he said a nice remark. He said I wasn't expecting that. But the fact that the leader of the free world in quotes Talks to the United Nations about his great achievements, and they all laugh at him. That's important. Now is that exactly what happened John C. Dvorak? No, we played the actual real clip from the United Nations. That's not what happened. So here's the guy bitching about the press and the way news is... Yeah, because the press is the one who reported it that way. Yeah, yeah.

2:04:00 Yeah, but then this is his truth and he's laughing and hey, I'm boycotting you, I'm boycotting Monty Python, I'm boycotting Python the code. Screw you. I'm not coding in Python anymore. He did have a they did do something which he complied with which I have to say I'm surprised the way you're right I played this clip is the almost word-for-word almost word for word I know about a month ago It was it comes out. It's like it's like a scripted bit It's the same appearance over and over again, and the first one was when the mic fell off We didn't play the clips then anyway, so then they do something which I find very rude You have a comedian on or funny person hey before you go. Tell us a joke

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Donor Segment: Sir Uncle Dave's Car Accident

Sir Uncle Dave from Las Vegas shares a harrowing story of surviving a major car accident involving a boulder. He details the financial reality of American healthcare, noting that his $170,000 medical bill was reduced to a $1,700 out-of-pocket expense thanks to his Cobra insurance plan.

uncle dave· las vegas· cobra insurance· medical bills· car accident

2:04:48 Which is, it's so rude. You know, I've seen people go up to singers and say, hey sing something for me. Why don't you just kiss my ass? You know, anyway, they do it and he complies and it was pretty good. Now just before we go, John Keyes, you've got to give us a joke to end on. A joke. One I heard last week which I really love is how can you tell whether someone is a vegan? I don't know, how can you tell? Because they tell you. Again, again, again. I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Air on No Agenda. Moaning. Thank a few people for helping us out. Starting with Sir Uncle Dave the night of the retired old farts in Las Vegas, Nevada. One, two, three, four, five.

2:05:43 Since he did send a check in, I do have a note from Uncle Dave. Uncle Dave is one of the old mainstays on the Dvorak blog. He used to work in the gaming industry. Oh, oh, in Vegas. Yeah. Yeah, he used to. He's got good information from him. Although other matters have been in the news lately, I thought you might be interested in my travels into medical insurance land. It's almost been six month anniversary of my insane car accident that I still marvel at having survived. The Thursday before I bought a newer used car on Friday, I retired from my job. And on Monday I set up for a road trip. The next morning I was driving along just fine. Next thing I remember, I woke up wondering what happened to my car, which was lying on its side. All airbags deployed, windows and sunroof smashed in front of what was left of the car, I think was a boulder. Wow. You got hit by a boulder or something. Talk about what are the chances?

2:06:39 The high patrol cut me out of the car and I was airlifted by helicopter to the hospital where I stayed for 10 days with a fractured sternum, broken ribs and a broken wrist, lacerated kidney and lacerated spleen and assorted other injuries. Boing! I'm healed up now with just a minor pain and lack of strength in my wrist and some pain in my knees. I've had enough MRIs, CAT scans and related stuff to last me for more than a while. Luckily, after retiring still a year away from Medicare, I signed up to continue my company's insurance via Cobra. Said that always seems like a scam. The insurance company's website provides a page that luckily my total out-of-pocket co-pays were only about $1,700 if I hadn't had the insurance that would have been on the hook for nearly 170,000. Wow. And is he on the mend now? Everything's okay? Yeah, and he talks about the negotiated rates because we've talked about this on the show. Negotiated rents is 30 cents to the dollar. Yeah, something like that.

2:07:37 And he goes on, it was a long exposition, I may put this in a newsletter. Anyway, luckily I had good health insurance, I had to pay for the whole non-negotiated rate of $170,000 for the helicopter cost most of this hospital and everything else. I had no way to be retired now and why I'm able to afford to donate. Thanks for what you guys do. As I always say, I don't always agree with your analysis or views, who does? But it's refreshing to hear you on our Idiotic Political and Media Circus, Love and Life are the Best Podcast in the Universe. Thank you very much, Uncle Dave. And he wants some I Survived Karma. Okay, coming up for him. You want to write? Blair Wilson in Sammamish, Washington. These are, she says, hope this is my lucky episode. We got some karma for you at the end too, along with Uncle Dave's.

CHAPTER 38 / 47 Discussion

Roundtable Donations and Birthday Acknowledgments

The hosts read through a list of donors contributing $50 or more, including a first-time donor celebrating his brother's 33rd birthday. A physical donation of a 1966 Mad Magazine and a patch from Gnawbone, Indiana are also acknowledged.

donations· paypal· birthday list· mad magazine· gnawbone

2:08:24 Kohai Zama in Tokyo. Hello, Tokyo. Baron Ladekin from Houston, Texas. Sir Craik in Russia. C-R-A-A-C. I don't know how that might be pronouncing that wrong. Now we got a Russian. Good. We got him. It says I-E, which I think is Ireland. Craik. Craik. Yeah. Don't forget to mention the amounts. You haven't been mentioning amounts for some reason. Oh, I'm sorry. These are all hundreds. Baron Ladekin's 100, Sir Craik's 100, John Robinet's 100. Uh, Steven Tomas or is 99 99. And he deducing. Sure. Hey, did you? Hey, what's going on? Oh, no. Deducing. You've been de douched. Uh, Peter Chong, 81 Mark Milliman, a 61 87. Also says he noticed he hadn't donated in a bit and this is the mountain is PayPal. If you get extra money, your PayPal account,

2:09:26 Think of us. We used to push that more in the past. We've got a real problem here, John. BearFighter 6. A lot of people don't have PayPal accounts and just use their credit card for these. SmallBooB6006. Sir Luke the Baron of London5555. Henry Coccozoli. Livonia, Michigan 5510. Sir Chris James double nickels on the dime 5510 in Sturgis, Michigan. Sir Tom Dari in DeForest, Wisconsin. M. Andrew Jones, Baron of the Americas Mountain. I put a note here that he has a note unless it's anything important. They have Drew Williams here. Andrew Jones.

2:10:09 Oh, he got a... I sent us a book, A Story of Number. Oh, you know, I started reading that. Fascinating. Yeah? Yeah. I mean, only because just recently someone taught me about the numbers three, six and nine, and taught is a big word. We start to look at some interesting aspects of those three numbers. And so the story of number is he starts at number one and kind of brings in universal concepts, mathematical thing. It's a very small book. Yeah, it's very small, but it looks like a winner. You can get M Andrew Jones or Mandrew Jones all one word dot-com You might get a pick up a copy there, and he's recommending. I'm at number five and he messages that Mark Gagne Noted no agenda artists designed the beautiful cover. Oh cool. It is a beautiful cover. It's true. Oh

2:11:04 It's quite nice. All right, well that's there's there I have a little note from Drew Williams. I may have passed him up. Oh yeah, Drew sent in a copy of Mad Magazine from 1966. Oh excellent, that's a classic. It's really a nice copy too. But he also gave a patch from, I'm going to read this graph, and closes a patch from Gnawbone Camp. Just when I first started listening, some guy from Gnawbone, Indiana donated and Adam joked about the name. No, I mention Gnawbone because I've been to Gnawbone. Adam never heard of the place. I don't remember anybody from Nabo ever donating so the patch is mine Just just to let you know where the patch is. All right onward Andrew Martonic

2:11:55 $50.33 in the following people. Hold on, hold on. First time donor as well. He wants to credit this donation to his brother Chris Martonic Jr. because it's his birthday. He'll be 33. He's on the list. Yeah. So I'll give him a de-douche. You've been de-douched. And human resource karma for Chris who's about to have his first child on the way as well. Put that on at the end. Villarreal, Villarreal, 50. These are all $50 donors, name and location if applicable. Jeremy Cartwright, Rockford, Illinois. Paul VanCordelar in Imouden. Imouden. Imouden.

2:12:36 Netherlands. Tyler Schimpf in Bothell, Washington. Bradley Ledin, parts unknown. Scott E. Knight, another lost wages Nevada guy. Walter Lenn in, I don't know, Greppingen, Greppingen, some place in Deutschland. Somewhere in Deutschland with lots of boom clouds. Unicode, sorry. But we love the Deutschlanders having, getting into the show. Hello, Deutschland! Here's the Hoff! Matthew Januszewski in Chicago, Sir Matthew I believe, and last but not least John C. Horner in Bay City, I'm sorry, Bay St. Louis, Mississippi. I want to thank all these folks for helping produce show 1074, 1074.

CHAPTER 39 / 47 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony for Sir Rod and Peerage Updates

Roderick Velo is officially knighted as "Sir Rod" in recognition of his $1,000 donation. The hosts perform the traditional knighting ceremony and update the peerage for Sir Robert of London, who has been elevated to the rank of Baronet.

knighting· sir rod· roderick velo· baronet· peerage

2:13:25 Oh, that's it? That's the entire list? That's it. That's all we got. There is no more. Well, thank you all very much for supporting your best podcast in the universe because you're producing it. It's exactly how production works. A lot of people do a lot of different things and play different roles, but this is your role and we're very appreciative of it. You had an 1111 pitch in there. Did it work? Oh yeah, we got some people subscribing to 1111. Yeah, I don't know if you can't tell on this list with a can't tell if it's weekly 1111 which is less than $50 a month So it's actually kind of a bargain for people who like to give well and the bargain value Depends on how you value stuff. You go to the movie theaters. It's our classic example You know you're you're in the movie. It's dark. You're with a date. Maybe you have some popcorn and something to drink. It's 50 bucks. Oh

2:14:14 Yeah, and then you've been brainwashed. We'd like to help you. Yes, the antidote is here, exactly. Thank you again. We really appreciate this. And we will have another show for you coming up on Sunday. Remember to support the show at... Here's the Karmas as requested. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma Yes, today is October 4th, 2018. Here are the birthdays on the list. We have Jeff McReynolds with a belated birthday. He turned 51 on September 28th. David Weed celebrates his birthday tomorrow on the 5th. And Andrew Martonik says happy birthday to his brother Chris Martonik Jr. He turns 33, the magic number, tomorrow. Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe.

2:15:19 Okay, so even though it wasn't on the list we have a very important nighting today by the way the TPO podcast is also on no agenda stream no agenda stream calm it's in Dutch It's played after midnight. It'll be during the day there It's after midnight. It's always after midnight somewhere, okay? Well, this is true. All right, grab your sword, grab your blade. We need this. Yeah, I got it. All right, Roderick Fahy, I'll have a hop on up. Hello, friends. Thank you very much for your support of the Best Podcast Universe and Noah Jenner Show. The amount of $1,000 or more, very proud to have you here at the Roundtable of the Noah Jenner Knights and the Danes. And I hereby proudly pronounce the KD.

2:15:58 Surad, Knight of the Noah's agenda round table and of course for you we have Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay. Perhaps some warm beer or cold women, early times and BF4, Craw ship and cane breaks, chilled potato, Polish vodka, parliaments and pale ale, Pog and Poi, breast milk and Pavlov, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and esports, ginger ale and gerbils, geisha and sake, ruminants, lemon and rosé, cow girls and coffin varnish or just some mutton and mead. You too, Sir Rod, can head over to knowedgeinthenation.com slash rings and Eric the shield will take your measurements there and we'll get everything off to you soon as possible and I very much look forward

2:16:37 to you tweeting out a picture of your ring and your sealing wax and your certificate. One title change today is Sir Robert of London has upped in the peerage and he now becomes a baronet. Of the no agenda show and that is all reflected hopefully somewhere on the peerage map itm. I am slash peerage or Dvorak org slash Peerage dot htM drop the L for extra loving never dropped the mattress extra s for savings or something yeah, P I don't remember the P. Oh, yeah, you saw that New York cable TV had the Extra the extra yeah

CHAPTER 40 / 47 Discussion

Brain-Eating Amoeba Case in Waco, Texas

A 29-year-old man died from a rare brain-eating amoeba (*Naegleria fowleri*) after visiting a surf park in Waco, Texas. The CDC is inspecting the facility. The hosts discuss the rapid onset of the fatal infection and the risks associated with warm freshwater activities.

naegleria fowleri· waco· surf park· cdc· brain-eating amoeba

2:17:31 Let's see, I got the brain eating amoeba clip. Let's do it. Brain eating amoeba. Nice. Does it need an intro? Nah. Known officially as Naegleria Fowleri, it lives in warm fresh water, enters the body through the nose, and though cases of infection are rare, almost always proves fatal. While it's unclear where 29-year-old Fabrizio Stable came into contact with the amoeba, a Waco, Texas surf park he visited prior to falling ill is being inspected by the CDC. After Stable returned home, he complained of a severe headache and soon after experienced fever and brain swelling.

2:18:09 He was declared brain dead on September 21st, just five days after the headache appeared. Wow, you should have played that right after I told you I was wake surfing here in Austin. I definitely got some Lake Travis in my nose. Yeah? Did you get a headache? Now that you mention it... Well, let's stick in Texas for more stupid news. I think it's somewhat sexist and probably rude to always, always assign these stories to the women reporters. Because you know, they got to be galled by this whole thing. I mean, female dumb in just in general. Well, it's not like we don't assign the Black Lives Matter stories to the African American journalists because we do.

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Houston "Kinky Dolls" Brothel Controversy

A proposed "sex doll brothel" in Houston was shut down by public works inspectors after the property manager claimed the business was misrepresented as an art gallery. The hosts debate the legality of the business, noting that using "rubber dolls" is not prostitution, while mocking the media's "vocal fry" reporting on the story.

houston· kinky dolls· sex dolls· zoning· public works

2:19:16 Yeah, well, I don't know if it's the same okay Mmm. Okay, it's a good point by the way the sexy doll company whatever they're called they also have male dolls Yeah, rather intimidating. I might add. I was very shocked I can't imagine that they would allow this type of business Wow listen to this Fry this is great. Wow she almost sounds like what's-her-face Ford no no from the times former time New York Times woman. Yes her name the birth of the original Berkeley hummer Stunning some neighbors. Well. I was very shocked. I can't imagine that they would allow this type of business to go into this area of town much less sitting wearing Houston and

2:20:03 The location wasn't released by the company. No permits filed with the city, but Wednesday, public works inspectors were alerted to this building on Richmond and Chimney Rock. Saw work in progress in an office space without proper permits. They red-tagged it, ordered work to stop. By then, the property manager had already ordered the would-be tenants out. He says two men told him they were opening an art gallery. A statement today from the property manager's attorney reads, After a few days passed, my client discovered the true nature of the business and never agreed to signing a lease for what was misrepresented as an art gallery.

2:20:44 My client wants no part in this story or any association with any type of sexually oriented business." We contacted the owner of Kinky Dolls for comments. No response yet. It's possible another Houston location will be sought, but it's already on the radar by Public Works at a petition drive opposing the business. So this was the brothel? the proposed... Art gallery. And they're not robots, they're just real dolls. They're not robots. But there's nothing... First of all, if guys want to go to a place of business where you insert your penis into some rubber, who cares? It's not prostitution, it's not illegal. Is it illegal? Is it an illegal business? It's lewd.

2:21:37 And as I said, they all sued in lascivious. Oh Yeah, that would qualify I guess but this is an obvious PR move by the kinky doll company It's not like the kinky doll brothel company. Come on. Yeah, I don't know what to make it look pretty good I have no name you can't I'm not one to judge I just if that's what guys want to do power to him Wow I don't know about the power to impart I would did listen to a bunch of you said hey Hey, hey, so I got something cool over here kids come take a look at my school bag. Yeah, hey hey girls

CHAPTER 42 / 47 Discussion

Climate Change and the USMCA Trade Deal

Democracy Now! is criticized for linking a recent tsunami in Indonesia to climate change. The hosts then pivot to the USMCA (the NAFTA replacement), expressing a desire to understand the actual changes in the 1,200-page document, specifically regarding dairy exports to Canada and Mexican labor wages.

democracy now· climate change· tsunami· usmca· nafta

2:22:20 So I've been listening to Democracy Now!, so I knew that in any one show they're going to find something to blame on global warming. Oh, yes. They signed on to the, you know, the global warming people, they went around saying, you're not reporting enough on this. You're not mentioning it enough. You should mention it on every newscast. They did that. I'm not joking. They went around a lot of these pressure groups, went around these reporting operations and said you should it should be mentioned on every newscast that nobody paid any attention to him except Democracy Now! people. A volcano on the island of Sulawesi where Friday's earthquake occurred has erupted, spewing volcanic ash into the air, further complicating rescue efforts from the tsunami and earthquake.

2:23:02 Meanwhile, scientists are warning that rising sea levels due to climate change will make future tsunamis like last week's disaster even more destructive. Yeah, yeah, that's right. By the way. I'm looking out the window again and... How are the mudflats, John? Have they changed at all? In fact, the other day they were extended way out into the bay. I don't know, there must have been a super low tide. How can that be? How can that be? It makes no sense. It makes no sense. Because Australia is a sponge. Because of what's happening in Greenland right now, the maps of the world will have to be redrawn. This is what would happen to San Francisco Bay.

2:23:47 All right, San Francisco Bay still good mud flats still in order everything's okay. Yep. Very nice. Yeah, I am I've tried to get an understanding of the USMCA the NAFTA replacement you SMCA yeah that joke Yeah, that joke was made on MSNB it was made on MSNBC of all places. I can't believe you did it. I Because the former New York banker was talking about it mockingly. No, nothing really changed. He said, well, wait a minute, but I haven't read it. Can we actually read this thing? Is it legible for mere mortals or does it... is it one of these where, in article 39 section 25 BC, the word they will be changed to zee.

2:24:46 If it's one of those it's gonna be very difficult to parse I really want to understand what the changes are and I what I do understand is that more vehicles will have to be produced more vehicles that would have been made in Candinavia or Mexico have to be created here, and then the banker was like and he put a TPP thing in there I guess insinuating that I don't know the TPP was good, which is the Mexico Mexican minimum wage And the banker goes, no Republican would ever want minimum wage for anything! I said, what point did you not figure out... Is this the way this guy talks? Yes, exactly like that. At what point did you think Trump was a Republican? Well, no, and I nailed him with that. He's like, oh, okay, I have another red stripe.

2:25:38 Yeah, I'd like to read it. I'd like to understand what the changes are. And you know, we can sell cheese. Somebody that did this for you. No, he also said, and we can sell cheese to Canada. That's one of the big deals. I know the dairy stuff, but he was all mocking about it. I said, Hey man, I need to read it. I don't know. I don't know. It was NAFTA. I don't know this. I don't know. Uh, what I do know is- Have Briny read it. Oh, please. If I could find it, I'd read it, but I don't see anything of any use yet. Um, have Briny read it. She's too busy doing stand-up. You've ruined her.

CHAPTER 43 / 47 Discussion

University of Manchester Bans Clapping for "Jazz Hands"

The University of Manchester's student union voted to replace traditional clapping with "jazz hands" to avoid triggering students with sensory issues or anxiety. The hosts mock the policy, pointing out that the BBC could not find a single deaf student who was actually bothered by clapping, and noting that the change discriminates against blind students who rely on audio cues.

university of manchester· jazz hands· accessibility· deafness· bbc

2:26:22 I gotta tell ya. The story went around that I really was desperate for a clip, because these things are just much better with a clip. The University of Manchester. Oh yeah, I'd love to see a clip of this. Yeah, so... In fact, I still find the story to be something of a practical joke or something. Well, I did find a BBC story, but they'd done the video in a very weird way, where instead of asking the question, the question was just in a title. I hate that. And then the answer. So it makes for clipping, makes it very complicated. Yeah, I hate that. RT does that constantly. Yeah, it ruins... It's to kill the clippers. Well, it's working. But I've still done some work on this from a couple of seconds. So one student of Manchester who I guess was in some kind of student body that came up with this, they decided to ban clapping.

2:27:14 And from now on instead of clapping we will do jazz hands jazz hands which is... You have to wear big white gloves. Yes, and you have to rotate, so basically you put your hands in the air and you just rotate them like you're clapping. Which, well here is a... Here's this interview. It can trigger issues for students who have autism, sensory issues and deafness and it can discourage them from being present at those events. So the whole reason for this taking place is because It could frighten deaf people. Being a person with some deafness myself, I'm like, hmm, no. But you have anxiety or triggering for applause, which is a part of life. Applause is a part of life.

2:28:03 everywhere in your life and it is typically a happy... I think they're depriving people of happiness and support and showing... it's something human beings do together. Like birds when they fly left or right and you see the flock of birds go. Humans will start to clap and we do the wave, we do all kinds of things. It's a beautiful human experience. There you go! Yeah, and you know when you don't clap then I think people just not even gonna be cheering cuz you go oh It's confusing. You know the clap comes together, but You look like retards which visually looks like this people have more informally heard it referred to as jazz hands But that is the official British Sign Language version of clapping Do you know other people have got hearing difficulties who it would bother? I don't so this is a deaf kid

2:28:58 And they show him from behind first with his hearing aid, so I don't know how bad it is, but he's got the similar hearing aids to what I have. And so now you're saying, hey... you know, just talking to the guy and ask a very interesting yet important question. Do you know other people who've got hearing difficulties who it would bother? I don't personally, so I don't know very many students who have sort of the same issues. So there's not that many deaf children there, but okay. I wonder who this is for then? Well, a little bit, yeah, I suppose, yeah, but, yeah, I mean if there are those who do experience those problems, I would like that. I think it'd be fine to implement it as a policy. So the BBC could not find a child who actually was bothered by the clapping for which this policy was implemented. They could not find a single one.

2:29:43 They only... Because there probably isn't one. They find the deaf... When did this ever become an issue? But then... I think somebody did this as a joke. Well, here's the real question. If you remove the clapping and you only do jazz hands, what do the poor blind students do? I think that that is a very important issue that you raise. I think that where we are at the moment in this conversation, this is the solution that we currently have. Oh, brain fry! This is against the blind. This is bigotry. It's totally, it's illegal. It's just about the blind people. If this happened in America, the ADA should be on that. Yeah.

2:30:27 This is not okay. They have no cues. No cue. Don't even know what's going on. And then they're completely oblivious to what's going on. This is, yeah. And you're ruining, okay, but more importantly, you're removing a very important human experience that can only be, and you don't know these other people, you're doing something together. It's fantastic. This is, Super bad. Super bad. It's going nowhere. It's maybe, I agree, I think it's dumb, it's laughable, and it's gonna go nowhere because nobody's gonna put up with this crap. At some point people go, nuts to you, I'm clapping if I feel like it. Unacceptable, I tell you. Unacceptable. Well, I'll tell you about unacceptable. Here we go.

CHAPTER 44 / 47 Discussion

Nobel Prize in Physics and Jocelyn Bell Burnell

Donna Strickland became the third woman to win the Nobel Prize in Physics. The hosts contrast this with the story of Jocelyn Bell Burnell, whose discovery of pulsars in 1967 was credited to her male advisor, Anthony Hewish, who won the Nobel Prize in 1974. They criticize the media for failing to name the "creep" who stole her work.

nobel prize· physics· donna strickland· jocelyn bell burnell· pulsars

2:31:09 Yes, I got a clip here that's unacceptable. This is the just this was glossed over I had to go do some research because of all people Amy Goodman's giving this report and she does choke up in the middle of the report and I think I left it choking up in She continues, but she doesn't even comment on this and they never do comment on this. I think it's an abomination This is the woman the women winning the Nobel Prize. In Canada, University of Waterloo professor Donna Strickland will share the Nobel Prize for physics for her work on creating advanced lasers. Strickland is just the third woman ever to win a Nobel Physics Prize and the first since 1963. Strickland's prize comes just three weeks after astrophysicist Jocelyn Bell Burnell was awarded the special breakthrough prize in fundamental physics

2:31:56 years after she made a historic astronomical discovery, only to have her male advisor take credit and receive the Nobel Prize for her work. Bell Burnell will donate her $3 million award to fund scholarships for women, refugees, and other underrepresented groups. Let's name some names. I have the paper here. This woman, a dame by the way, Susan Jocelyn Bell Burnell, this was in 1967. She's fairly old, but she's a dame of the Order of the British Empire.

2:32:31 Let me read this and I got the names of the guy, the creep that stole her material. And the irony is the guy said she's full of shit. Oh really? Belle Burnell was a doctoral student at physics at Cambridge when she first noticed a series of mysterious highly irregular blips in the... or regular blips in a readout of a radio telescope in 1967. Further observations show that the pulses were occurring 1.3 seconds every 1.3 seconds creating barely perceptible squiggles in her data. Bell Burnell's advisor Anthony Hewish was at first skeptical of the findings, dismissing them as artifacts in her readings. But Belle Burnell was certain it was not just artificial noise. In early 68, her work paid off with the publication of the first scientific paper documenting pulsars. She found them. And it goes on with another graph and it says here, the discovery of pulsars was such a big deal that in 1974, Hewish,

2:33:29 The guy who told her she's full of crap shared the Nobel Prize in physics for it alongside fellow astronomer Martin Ryle. It was the first time the prize had ever been awarded in the field of astronomy. First time ever. But Bell Burnell's contributions to the breakthrough find went unmentioned. It's a disgrace. And she did, and Amy just runs through, this is more of a disgrace than the bull crap, these hearings and this woman, Ford and her phony rape. I mean, what her real or imagined imagination of a almost rape. She never got raped. I mean, it seems to me that this is a bigger deal. This is the kind of thing that women should be like shaking their fists about.

2:34:17 But no, they don't even name this Jewish guy in the other one. I mean, this is an abomination. But she did get one and they didn't give her for her original pulse or stuff. Did they take the Nobel away from the other guys? I think they should have. Yeah, like Milli Vanilli. Yeah, same thing. Anyway, I found it very annoying and I found it annoying the way it was not covered. No names were named and then Amy, the big social justice warrior just blows through the story and goes on to something else. Very, very annoying. It's probably a Tory. That's probably the reason.

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FDA Crackdown on E-Liquid Flavors

FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb announced plans to restrict flavored e-liquids, calling teen vaping an "epidemic." The hosts argue this is a move to protect Big Tobacco by pricing out small "cottage industry" manufacturers through expensive application fees. They defend vaping as a successful off-ramp for adult smokers and criticize the media for supporting the "gateway drug" narrative.

fda· scott gottlieb· vaping· e-cigarettes· big tobacco

2:35:01 I have a couple clips left here. Oh yes, being a vaper myself I track the vapage, what's going on. You know Dexter of course in Gitmo Nation East has his e-liquid company. The kid's gone from delivering weed in Domino's pizza boxes to he has like 15 employees. Very proud of Dexter. So I've you know, I'm giving you a piece of the action. You're always promoting him No, I get no piece of the action. I should give you a TV couple points One points from Dexter. I think Christina and her girlfriend have chosen him as the father for their child or something So I got to be nice to him. I know don't need don't get me started on these kids. Yeah I'm okay with it though. Smart kid. It's good. It's pretty cute cute boy. I

2:35:49 So what is happening now is the FDA and, I've been following this on CNBC, they seem to be all over it, are making noise about the liquids, the e-liquids. And of course it's horrible because we're, you know, it's a gateway to cigarettes. And notice how they never call it vaping. You ask any kid, what are you smoking? Will they say an e-cigarette? No! Let's say a vape or Juul, which is kind of the USB chargeable thing the kids are using these days. I no longer smoke tobacco products. Not combustible, because I've learned that term. I vape and it actually helped me get off of cigarettes.

2:36:37 And you can get these e-liquids in a variety of tastes and aromas and with or without nicotine. Now nicotine itself is not a foreboding substance. It's not highly regulated, is it, John? I'm not aware of this. You can go buy some nicotine pills at Walgreens. Yeah, over the counter. Yeah. So nicotine is and... You go buy a patch. Or you go buy five patches and put them all on at once. And lick one at the same time. Press it against the roof of your mouth with your tongue. Exactly, but they're making it this out to be like these e-liquid guys and really it's kind of a bathtub cottage industry people who are doing this and there's no real major brands and What you're about to hear is right what you're about to hear is It's the FDA commissioner, what's his name Scott Godley and

2:37:36 He is pretty much shilling for the big tobacco because the big tobacco companies see this coming down Broadway They want to be the sole guys in this business, and I think it was two years ago I said you watch they're gonna come in and you have to file the some kind of you know medical just some kind of food report or whatever for every single flavor you create everything you do everything you change and I'm not quite sure if they have the authority to do this at all and But here's the report on CNBC. Well we have access to early data right now that we're going to make public very soon that shows us that the proportion of high school teenagers using e-cigarettes has reached nothing short of an epidemic level in my view and it requires us to step in and take dramatic action to try to curtail. Yeah we have data coming very soon. Where's the data coming? Yeah FDA is real real big on data that's all fair and

2:38:29 and make sense. Presumably don't have all the risks. That's got a lot of weasel words. Guy is a weasel. He's a total douche and he's all this is for big tobacco And it's really disturbing how CNBC laps it up who haven't and this woman is it was about to speak She's not a smoker She has no crap about the question But it cannot come at the expense of hooking whole generation of kids onto nicotine and hooking a whole generation of kids onto nicotine

2:39:07 Really now? And eventually onto tobacco products. Oh, and straight, it's a gateway drug! So unfortunately in order to close the on-ramp to kids we're gonna have to narrow that off-ramp for adults and the thing we're looking at right now... On-ramp, off-ramp... is removing the flavors, the characterizing flavors from the e-cigarette products. Removing the flavors and she chimes in, that makes sense. I mean it never made sense to me the idea the argument that adults who are trying to quit smoking would suddenly turn to vaping for flavors like mango or donut or pineapple. Yes, yes, yes, yes. That is exactly what's happening and if the kids love these. No, she said it's not happening. She's full of baloney.

2:39:50 The kids love these flavors and they're not necessarily getting them with nicotine. You can get all these flavors without nicotine. A lot of kids don't want the nicotine. They just, it's a, it's an oral fixation, whatever it is. It's an on-ramp to smoking. And of course they'd love to then switch out a cartridge and put a little weed in there, also all for it. But no, no, this is a throwback to the candy cigarettes. That's what this is. Remember that, John? Oh, I remember. You used to buy a pack of candy cigarettes. And they became socially unacceptable. Yeah, I remember in the fourth grade, fifth grade, the candy cigarettes were very popular and they had labels that looked like real tobacco cigarettes. And people would have this, you know... Yeah, and it was chewing gum or chocolate. It was different kinds. And they were tasty. And of course, it familiarized kids with tobacco products. Of course. I never smoked, ever. That we know of.

2:40:47 No, I never smoked. I never smoked cigarettes and I've never and I remember candy cigarettes and I like them. They're very tasty. So anyway, so notice what they're doing. They're not and the clip has a little more to it. Then what they are, they're going after people who make flavors. Now the flavors is really what all this cottage industry has, is known for. There's fantastic brands and very interesting tastes and it's food. I mean, it's a food industry if you look at it. There are definitely the propofol, not propofol,

2:41:23 Whatever propylene whatever it's called the stuff that that you need as a base to create the vape the vapor Yeah, it can affect you because I think it can give you To make you poop a lot maybe But, you know, it's not... They have a brand called Poop-a-lot. This is the kind, this is what's so great about this industry. You could have a Poop-a-lot brand and people be like, oh, this is cool, I want that. And they've, you know, the labels are great. And this is what Dexter has become very successful with. But they're not going after the devices. They're not going after the nicotine providers. No, let's go after the kids who are making up all these cool little flavors. That seems like it's entirely designed to lure in non-smokers and new customers.

2:42:05 Well, look, it may be the case that the flavors do help some adults transition off of combustible tobacco, that they have appealed to adults as well. But what we're going to say to the companies, those flavors are on the market but for an act of enforcement discretion by the FDA. We're allowing them to stay on the market without filing applications, seeking approval to have those flavored products on the market. What we're contemplating doing, and we're giving the manufacturers some time to come back to us, But what we're working on right now is a plan where we would require these companies to have to file applications with the FDA demonstrating that the flavored products have a net public health benefit, that they're going to entice more adult smokers to quit combustible tobacco and move on to e-cigarettes or off-tobacco altogether, versus enticing more young kids onto these nicotine products. No, it's closer to a million. It's closer to a million per flavor.

2:42:58 This whole thing is an example of the problem with government, today's government, over-regulation. This is over-regulation that the republic is always bitching about. But meanwhile this goes through with Trump as president. And this is the kind of thing that this is extra-legal enforcement of laws that are only done by bureaucracies. I had worked for one of these operations. And they, which is the way the government works nowadays, they give the authority to the FDA to make their own rules, make their own laws when laws are only supposed to be made by Congress or the states. But no, no, they're made by these agencies and they're usually made on behalf of some organization like big

2:43:38 tobacco. Yeah, exactly. And the whole thing, the whole system's corrupt and this guy should be run out of town. He should be roundly criticized by the reporter instead of her agreeing with everything he says. Oh, yes. Exactly. And notice he says, you know, we're giving the manufacturers, yeah, the manufacturers are all going to come back and they're in this question and answer period and it'll be, yes, we agree, we think we should have this very strict policy to push all the other kids out who have made this industry. Yeah, well, at least we show that no agenda shows sticks, stays behind the people that have something to do with we knowing them.

2:44:16 Yeah, that's what we stand for Dexter Dexter It's all about Dexter. I got some points on the back end John sounds like hey John I got some points on the back end of the vape liquid. It's our exit finally. It's here get some points man I have one, I have a couple of last clips, but I have one that I think is probably worth playing. And this is the one where Trump says, you're not thinking, you're an idiot. Calls on some woman to report it. This is the whole clip and you can tell he's just being Trump. He calls on some woman from CNN, I think, and he lets her ask a question at a press briefing about

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Trump Confronts Reporter During USMCA Briefing

During a press conference regarding the USMCA, President Trump insulted a reporter who attempted to pivot to questions about Brett Kavanaugh. The hosts argue the media misreported the event by claiming Trump "didn't want to talk about Kavanaugh," when he actually just insisted on finishing the trade discussion first.

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2:43:38 tobacco. Yeah, exactly. And the whole thing, the whole system's corrupt and this guy should be run out of town. He should be roundly criticized by the reporter instead of her agreeing with everything he says. Oh, yes. Exactly. And notice he says, you know, we're giving the manufacturers, yeah, the manufacturers are all going to come back and they're in this question and answer period and it'll be, yes, we agree, we think we should have this very strict policy to push all the other kids out who have made this industry. Yeah, well, at least we show that no agenda shows sticks, stays behind the people that have something to do with we knowing them.

2:44:16 Yeah, that's what we stand for Dexter Dexter It's all about Dexter. I got some points on the back end John sounds like hey John I got some points on the back end of the vape liquid. It's our exit finally. It's here get some points man I have one, I have a couple of last clips, but I have one that I think is probably worth playing. And this is the one where Trump says, you're not thinking, you're an idiot. Calls on some woman to report it. This is the whole clip and you can tell he's just being Trump. He calls on some woman from CNN, I think, and he lets her ask a question at a press briefing about

2:44:59 about the new USMCA. Well I'd like to say something about this this press conference in general because I actually caught this one the entire thing I heard it live and it was misreported as usual by MSNBC etc. Oh he didn't want to talk about Kavanaugh I didn't want to talk about Kavanaugh but that's not what happened. The first question from the first reporter he called on started on Kavanaugh and he said no no let's talk about what was it the USMCA. Yeah, USMCA, which apparently Jared Kushner pushed that through. I'm looking into that story. And you know that every other reporter would say, well I have a question about Kelly. He said, look we'll do them later. First about this deal. And he did them later. And he did them later, but it was reported. He didn't want to talk about it. But yeah, so he was pissed off about everyone asking him the same question over and over again.

2:45:54 And then this happened. She's shocked that I picked her. She's in a state of shock. I'm not thinking, Mr. President. That's okay, I know you're not thinking. You never do. I'm sorry? No, go ahead. That was like, Homo says what? That was really bad. It was horrible. It was horrible. It was a comedian. Well, he's the director. He's the producer. He's the talent. Yeah, he's the distributor. He's got the full package. Excuse me. She jumps. No, no, never mind. Just go on. You want me to play the role? It's almost like these aren't the bots you're looking for. You know that scene in the old Star Wars movie.

2:46:38 Do you want to play the rest of the clip for some reason? Yeah, play the whole thing as you get it. Go ahead. In a tweet this weekend, Mr. President, you said that it's incorrect to say you're limiting the scope of the FBI investigation. What does that have to do with trade? I don't mind answering the question, but you know, I'd like to do the trade question. It has to do with the other headline in the news, which is the Kavanaugh nomination. I know, but how about talking about trade and then we'll get to that. We'll do that a little bit later. Anybody have a trade? Go ahead. Do you think your trade deal will pass through Congress, sir? I think so, but you know, if it doesn't, we have lots of other alternatives. But I do think so. I think if they're fair, which is a big question, but if it's fair on both sides, the Republicans love it. Industry loves it. Our country loves it. If it's fair, it will pass. I think it'll pass easily, really easily, because it's a great deal. I mean, NAFTA passed. It's one of the worst deals I've ever seen. Inconceivable.

2:47:27 That it was made fair question any other questions. I'll get back to you in the other I'd like to go forward with my Cavanaugh question. Let's do that later Yeah, just insist and insist yeah, oh, yeah, oh well Maybe Sunday will be no Trump Day. It's not possible unlikely says 10. I mean you what are you gonna? Do these guys it's all they do we deconstruct news and half the news we have to deconstruct has got to do with Trump I There you go. We'll talk about this other stuff. There's global warming going on We will return on Sunday with another episode of the no agenda show Looking forward to that remember us at the vorac org slash na and until then coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas capital of the drone star state

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Outro and End-of-Show Mix

The hosts sign off, noting the late arrival of the "Zephyr" and the lack of a presidential notification. The show concludes with a soundbite mix featuring Trump's "big brain" comments, the "one beer" rally routine, and various clips from the Kavanaugh hearings.

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2:48:15 FEMA Region 6 on the governmental maps in the 5x9 Cludio in the common law condo in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I should mention that the last show, The Zephyr came by three hours late. And I'm still waiting for the Trump tweet. Or not tweet, but notification. I'm John C. DuVorak. Keep waiting my friend. Keep waiting. Until Sunday everybody as always. Adios! Mofo! I mean, Anjali is just talking to us about single sex schools. I don't know, is your school single sex or is it co-ed? It's co-ed. It's co-ed, okay.

2:49:32 that that comment is just so poor. She believes Ford says that she doesn't even remember ever being at a party. That voice is more empowering than anything. And since we tell adults to pick and choose, that Brett Kavanaugh exposed himself. Hold on. He showed up to pick and choose, to pick and pick himself. Her face. And, right, and, and, to pick and pick and pick. I don't know, I can't. It just reverberates for me. To be focused on gender roles. So I'm in college. They don't remember anything like this ever happened. The social culture is trying and focusing to stop. We're getting at a party where a cabinet was crushed. Pickens, it's so much that... Oh, hold on, hold on. It's a pick and... Anything... Exposed himself. Or respond... Who said she believed... Yes, now she's saying all men are creeps. Adultism is very real. It's so empowering to be able to have that voice. You can remember... Yeah, he was poetic.

2:50:32 It's car. It's car. And fun for boys should never be exploitation for girls. And so, with fun, that is your school single sexers a coed. Oh my god, can you see that, Zephyr? Fantastic. Fantastic. Fantastic. China has total respect, total respect, China has total respect, total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large A brain. A brain. A brain. A brain. A brain. A brain.

2:51:24 Foppy said that all day. You say, the China man over there said I got a big brain. Foppy said that all day. Donald Trump said he has a big brain. Who was telling the truth? Yes. What was the reality? Gris grasped the country. The lasagna of lousy. You know what you did. He liked beer. And kind of a wind up to the F word. Kind of a ffff.

2:52:06 Every story has three sides. Every city in America has a Trump Hotel. And both parties are in danger of winning. Danger of winning. But it can be worse. You can actually kill somebody's cat and puncture their tires to get them to shut up. I had one beer! Technology is the big question whether or not it is making people happy. Lies, smears, besmirchment, the character assassination and frankly the bludgeoning of... Visionary, blame the other person tactics, he himself. Who was telling the truth? Yes. What was the reality? Oh, look what they found. I had one beer!

2:52:45 Because we've got facts and then we've got feelings. Nope, there was one beer. One beer. Alright, and boofing is not flatulence. You know what you did.