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00:01 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's time for episode number 107 of your Gitmo Nation audio publication coming to you from New York This is no agenda At least my portion of the show is Gitmo Nation Mid-Central something like that from an undisclosed hotel location Hello everybody I'm Adam Curry And from the same old, same old although it's a dreary day here in Northern Silicon Valley I'm John C. Dvorak. yeah we received in germany as we speak i'm excited and it is the morning yes it's the morning here it still lives quarter to twelve in uh... new york at my nation what is good donation for new york is that made mid-central kind of net again get more nation new york but i think it can't thanks to give a nation new york where after where i am have been actually was in pennsylvania yesterday

00:58 which, man talk about Gitmo Nation. How about Gitmo Nations Eastern Seaboard? Eastern Seaboard I like that we'll keep it at that and actually in a new hotel that's only been open since December 11th i don't mind giving out the name of it its 25 Cooper Square Hotel which is down near the... Wait wait let me guess! It's on Cooper Square No you are amazing Mr. Dvorak Yeah, it's one of these boutique hotels. It's nice! Well put together... although they do this annoying thing with these boutique hotels because I got like two bags right? I've got my matching rollerbags One which is my kind of carry-on when it has the four wheels so you can.. You don't have to schlep it behind you can kind of keep it to the side

01:49 and then a larger version of that again with four wheels in the only and uh... ron i've been to pennsylvania so actually drove me at a rental car we open for the hotel you got all these guys right at these boutique hotels all dressed in black and they're going to be your pieces in and you know i was like it can take about how does take my bags is no easier like they roll really easily i'll check in a role up to the bottom line by the same exact okay i would like to get our snow it gets worse so they have a special checking procedure here I'm like, okay. So eventually the guy winds up just taking my bag. I'm holding on to my carry-ons like look i'll just take it myself you don't need to carry into the hotel You know just please let me do because I want to get up to the room I wanna unpack my shit Take a shit! Just...I wanna do my stuff right? And they have this Okay would you please sit down here Mr Curry for check in like Jesus

02:40 It's like would you like a complimentary wine spirits or water? I just give me the water and then you wait for 10 minutes, then the guy comes back Okay, we're ready. And then one guy takes you up and shows you how the key works Oh wow it's like a proximity card You know I could have figured that one out and Then you wait 20 minutes for the other jabroni to come up with my freaking bag is like I hate this Yeah I'm the exact same way. I come in, I travel light anyway so i got my roller bag which is a you know Samsonite with the wheels and using my computer bag hanging off of it and then they guys always ask if you want to take your back take your bags no! And I always refuse that never let them ever again because actually what happened me a few years ago went to the Four Seasons down

03:30 Southern California is one of them. I can't remember which one exactly but go in there and they insist on taking a bag And you have to give up at a certain point because otherwise it'll fisticuffs will occur, right? They insist on too well now I have this I have this story to tell and it goes like this Well went to the four seasons that was then they took my bag and they lost my bad So how do you lose your bag at the Four Seasons Hotel? It took me an hour to get the damn bag. I'm sorry, I refuse to give my bag up to anybody. I don't care who it is and then by the way, I was just in New York and I stayed at The Rivington which is or The Hotel on Rivington which is in the oil review side. Let me guess...it's on Rivington

04:10 It is. And it's in the weird part of New York, which was kind of a strange place but it was... The hotel was exactly the same kind of hotel and also had a proximity card which is interesting because I have never been... Most hotels still have the slide unit so now they got these And, uh... which by the way these cards have coded on them besides just the room key opening device. It has a bunch of your personal information on it so don't lose those cards Oh really? I didn't know that Yeah i found that out in a hacker site What kind of information Like your credit card number who you are No! All the stuff that they key in to for your room when they get that's why they do the card after They you know after I don't have it right, right. Right? It's all this infant barely There's a bunch of information on there. I didn't know I haven't been able to read one but maybe its bull Hey Let me hit you with this early dude turn the speakers Jim dad just a hair So I asked earlier and he said no this well I got excited and loud And then I heard myself and that's frightening

05:10 So, uh... What do you think the audience thinks? So anyway. Now here's the thing that bugs me about these places is they got the same guys saying, you know These are all cookie cutter They have the guys in them these were all started by the guy who ran studio 57 wasn't even Schrager who did this Yeah Well he does but he's part of that team That was original and it was to be a study for not 50 70 I mean I know you're hindsight 7 they started Heinz 57 and uh... they said the first one it was a bit like morgan's and then there's another would be good about his little boy had a list in their san francisco the clifton telephone because it's really hotel

05:47 It might be now yeah, and the Gramercy and yeah all of these hotels. Yeah, and they're dark Oh my god What is up with the dark in the hallways like you've got a light? You need Braille everywhere to find out what your freaking room number so you get to your you get to your room it's pitch black in the hallways I think as a muggers delight But you just pitch black And then if you don't have your key on handy you can't find it in your wallet because you can see it. I'll do one better so this hotel doesn't have room numbers no, you have a floor number and then written out long form is your room number so I'm on well I'm on floor whatever and then room number seven you know what's your room number? S-E-V-E-N yes exactly what's your room number while I'm on you know 7 it's like dumb! And what is... What is this trying to prove that we're hip

06:39 Yeah, you're hip like in this late 80s maybe. So the floors are pitch black and with some mood lighting and some of these places by the way have different room floors that they're lit with different color which make it even more weird. And then the room itself is usually underlit and it's extremely minimalist. You've been here before, clearly. But the bathrooms are always a treat. Now here's my favorite bathroom. They designed these bathrooms to be really minimalist and they put in like the fanciest weirdest kind of facilities so in other words the bowl that you wash your hands in... The one I was at, the Rivington, was square. Oh yeah! I have a salad bowl this time

07:30 I go to one of the salad bowls. Now here's my favorite one, I went to one of these hotels that had the big salad bowl and so i turn the faucet on it immediately overpressures... Splatters everywhere! It goes down one side of the bowl and soaks me So as I said you know the first thing I want to do when I have to wait 20 minutes is like you know I wanna make a conference call in the bathroom You know like I've been on the road we have shitty food and I want sit down And then when actually sit down was like dude it feels like I'm sitting in a jail cell. You know where you have one of those metal toilets and that's all there is? That's exactly what it feels like! Where's the tin cup?! I'm paying hundreds of dollars for the privilege of being in The Big House, that's exactly what it sounds...what it feels like

08:13 So I think these places are tired and the fact that they're still Opening them with the same formula is beyond me this this formula is 20 years old come up with something new Yeah, for real for real for real. So thanks for taking care of my girlfriend yesterday. I hear you guys actually had a good time I can't believe she's getting along with you Oh No we get along famously when I'm not there when you're not And she says she really likes the idea of you taking over her Twitter account So, yeah. I guess that ain't gonna happen now. I had to do it. But the one thing that's good about this hotel John just to get back to it...I'm sitting at the desk which is about the size of a school desk It's really sparse and small but they have an old-fashioned bendy arm desk lamp

09:11 You know what I mean? Yeah, bendy arm. With the springs in it which of course is perfect as a microphone stand! Oh well at least you got something out of the place It's great yeah that's really good Well one thing i'll say about the Rivington or the hotel on Rivington uh... Is that the bed was a down mattress so it was comfortable to sleep Yeah, the bed is good here too. They do spend money. Everybody I think picked up the bed thing because when the first W Hotel opened in New York which i went to when it first opened original one that's the one on Times Square

09:48 I think so. Or the one, there's two of them now and the first one is that I can't remember where it was but anyway it was a down bed, down pillows, down comforters. It was like as soon as you hit the bed you said well I think I'm just going to stay here. Yeah, I slept 10 hours last night. Of course I took the red eye from San Francisco. I flew JetBlue And that's something funny on the way, on the way over. You know how you're always waiting for that announcement? Is there a doctor onboard or my favorite which I've been waiting for my entire life is there a pilot on board? Gee! I can't wait to hear that one now this time it was ladies and gentlemen we're sorry to disturb you does anyone on board speak Chinese

10:32 That's a different one. Yeah, it was some Chinese woman who was in some form of distress I guess and before had the doc...I've had the doctor announcement four times and i've had two people die on a flight So this is a clue ladies and gentlemen don't fly on a flight that Dvorak is on you might die The real painful one was the guy drops dead coming out of China And we have to make an emergency landing in Narita Narita Airport. Why an emergency landing if the dude is dead?

11:08 I don't know. Maybe he just had a heart attack, maybe he wasn't dead that's the point. That's not what you meant but no i think they still got to get him off the plane. No why? They just put him in the galley or put them down on the hold? They've got room down there and it'll keep them cold so uh... So they land in Narita and the problem with Narita is that first of all the plane lands in Narita but we're not clear to be there. A million cops surround the plane And with you know, we're at the light spinning and so then they make the announcement Nerita has a Curfew and we can't take off. We have to wait till the next day It's somehow I don't know that there was somebody who did what but this this was a United flight Somebody did it deal because they you know The guy said ladies and gentlemen buck your seatbelts are getting out of here and it rolls this thing up and just blasts off Just like we're out. We're gone. We're out of here

12:05 You know, so much for the curfew. So while we're talking about aviation something that happened on the 22nd and of course really didn't become known until the 23rd but is now pretty much mainstream news that the CLEAR program this is a program that allows you to...that enables you to give all your personal data including biometric data to this company and you would then be pre-cleared to go through a separate security line at most major airports has ceased operations. Isn't that unbelievable? No, it's not really unbelievable but it is like whoa! And from what I understand the reason why is the TSA basically shut it down they didn't want no part of it

12:54 And they just stopped approving their devices because you know it turned basically into a concierge service. You know, it wasn't like really...you still had to take your shoes off you still had to go through detectors and get frisked but was like a special line essentially like a faster line Well they have the first class lines in some airports Right which is better probably than what clear was But yeah its done! Its closed down and SFO when I was leaving for the red-eye, they even had a little sign as of June 22nd clear has ceased to operate and it's done. It was a fiasco! Yeah so much for that idea So I wonder if there is anything else behind it other than that? We have to look into it we should do follow up Well the whole idea of essentially a company having all your biometric data was kind of scary to start with and you would think that the government would be quite happy to have that but I guess not

13:53 I was going to say that the exact same bag with the exact same contents that they opened up and ripped apart for 30 minutes on my way to Los Angeles has happily gone through security twice now without any bag check or anything. What was in it that was triggering this search? Well you didn't have a bottle of water in there, it's probably why. No exactly no but I did... so this is the thing so you know i have transmitters wireless devices midi devices tons of wires backup batteries all kinds and it's like a bomb waiting to happen you know just add water and it will explode exactly that

14:33 And you know, so it's the inconsistency that makes me...that pisses me off all the time. It's like why am I getting pulled out now? You know was that bag checker who is, you know, that moron who sits behind the monitor and by the way they are morons! I'm calling ya out Was that just a lesser moron who saw something that might, you know... And also it's the way you put the bag in I'm convinced. If you if you put the bag on its side I think then they see more for some reason but yeah well because they see more It's just so inconsistent. I look at all the waste, all these people there are 50 people at San Francisco airport working TSA alone man it is just geez Louise! Here is another thing with the inconsistency you run into tell me if you haven't noticed this

15:21 If there are like, if the place is packed to the gills they're trying to run people through really fast but it's the place... Like I go through Seattle at a weird time once in awhile. There's like nobody there! So I'm like one guy, yeah exactly. And it's just takes an hour to get through Yeah i've seen that and another one that gets me is sometimes its like you need three bins or two bins. One bin to put my laptop in then I put my bag on the belt then I have to take off my shoes, jacket everything into a second bin And all of a sudden there was this, shoes have to can't be in the bin. Shoes have to be on the belt by themselves! I'm like, ach du lieber?

16:05 You're kidding. Yeah, and that was in San Francisco when I went to LA. Shoes have to be on the belt by themselves! And of course they are all foreigners... And they're barking. Oh God! One guy got in my face on this trip over you know you have a TSA agent he stands right behind the metal detector and waves you on and you have to wait god forbid you just walk on oh no please step back sir step back okay And then I walk through and because the guy's right, he's like three feet in front of the other side so you know I kind of like turn to the right and kind of make myself small. And then my shoulder hits the uh... Oh yeah, you touched that thing. I touched it and it went off and he was like don't touch the side sir go back! Well you weren't like in my space, y'know? You were in my way! OH WAS I?! Yeah! Y'know it's like fucking Nazis. I just gotta say your fucking Nazis okay? And I'm fucking hate you

17:04 His name is Adam Curry. Yes, adam at vvo calm I am at the Cooper Square Hotel You can identify him when he comes through the line because he's quite tall and blonde Yeah, and hot-looking I personally think they're wonderful people And I feel sorry for their job that they have to do I don't know if there are wonderful people But I do feel sorry for the job they have to do I think that people who are in jobs like that become not so wonderful people, they become assholes. It's because they have to deal with the public all day! Hey you're breaking up dude and it's not me okay? Oh we should've made sure to send at Comcast cares. You know I can't get Comcast in my new building

17:47 So, why not? Well they say Comcast doesn't service that building. What the hell is that all about? They don't service that building Oh thats got something to do with the building its got nothing to do with Comcast But there were people who lived there and have television There's wires coming out of the wall Someone had some form of television previously They probably have a sweet deal with somebody else and it's just how its is We'll see. You should pitch to the building owner And I'd just like to follow up on the sentencing of Bernard Madoff Of course, the sentencing was supposed to happen on June 16th That found out that got pushed back to June 29th and now today in the news Ah we're gonna wait another 90 days for sentencing! I guarantee you The International Financial Court has to be set up and they will work on this sentencing This is exactly what i predicted

18:42 They cannot sentence this guy because they don't know what he did wrong. They're going to come up with this whole cock and bull story where they have to investigate it, and it's going to go to the IFC. Mark my words you heard it here on No Agenda First. Yeah, you're sticking with that story and so far working out for ya. Mm-hmm. I don't think that's gonna happen but I'm very suspicious about this. Why are they putting it off? Again, they're putting it off because they don't know what happened. How can you sentence a guy if you don't know what happened? He pleaded guilty and like Okay, well yeah so we know was 50 billion dollars but what actually was the crime I did read on CNN have it here that his lawyer

19:27 has asked for twelve years sentencing twelve years because the classic yeah i love that it because his He's here's it Mr. Madoff is currently 71 years old and has an approximate life expectancy of 13 years So give the guy 12, you know so he can like get laid for the last year or something like that I'm not quite sure what that is Oh, well also when you get twelve years You only end up doing five exactly exactly? So he's got the money stashed away somewhere cuz then nobody knows where the money is which may be part of their reason They're stalling on this thing No, I can tell you where the money is It's in Switzerland. No, no it probably went through Switzerland but it went to Israel and is being used to kill people. Oh that could be And the funny thing about it is a lot of this money or at least up to a certain amount for many of the investors was insured and that insurance came through a number vehicles one as the FDIC

20:22 Another one is AIG who insured tons of transactions and as you know AIG was bailed out by, by who? Oh yeah! By us. So it's like a double whammy. No I think a lot people didn't have...I think a lot of those investments were not insured Some of the instruments certainly were so here is a news item So I'm reading about this guy. Do you know the name of... I'm asking this question in hopes that you don't because, I figure a lot of us are skeptical about things and always forget some of the prime movers You know who's the father of global warming? Oh, ummm....I think you sent me this in the show notes Go ahead! I'll pretend that I do not know Yes James Hansen

21:15 is he a NASA guy? was that the story? yeah, he's the NASA climatologist who made some testimony in 1988 in front of congress claiming man-made global warming was taking place and we have to do something about it. And then Gore became his pal and so did... okay that part I didn't know! He was actually the guy that inspired Scam artist gore to come up with his PowerPoint. Is that how it worked pretty much? Yeah Mm-hmm He's the inspiration So anyway, so I'm just reading through something for a run and then I run into this old posting from January Which I don't know did I miss it or was it to get no press? I didn't even blog it that I know I don't think maybe maybe if it's on the blog you have to should go look and

22:02 But how his supervisor John Theon sent out this note after I guess he's retired or is not the supervisor, he doesn't work at NASA anymore and says that Hansen was an embarrassment to NASA. He was never muzzled and he said... And this guy Theon says that all climate models are useless? And let me just read a couple of things from the note that was sent out Retired senior NASA atmospheric scientist John Theon, the former supervisor of James Hansen, NASA's vocal man-made global warming fear soothsayer has now publicly declared himself a skeptic and declared that Hansen... Oh here is the reason I dug this up because Hansen just was in the news a couple days ago saying it's worse than I thought! We're doomed. We are all going to die

22:50 And he's targeted coal, so he was arrested with Darrell Hannah up in West Virginia picketing some coal company. Oh, it was Darrell Hannah right? Yeah and so he's up there getting arrested with daryl hannah and i guess is by the way if you gotta get arrested in mind as will be with her yeah i did handcuff tour they declared that hanson embarrass nasa with his alarming climate claims it enhance it was never muzzled the on joins the rapidly growing ranks but here's a one day the interesting quote is here uh... first of all he says he'd he likes to join me group instead susceptible sky

23:32 uh... note nasa scientist james hansen create world wide media frenzy with his dire climate warning is calls for trials against those who dissent against man-made global warming he's one of the guys that thinks everyone who says it like what i'm saying now should be arrested and as you know when your terrorism edgy team and his claims that he was allegedly muzzled by the bush administration despite doing fourteen hundred on the job media interviews yeah well so Mickey and I were talking about this the other day, about this whole 2012 and about what's going to happen at the end of the Mayan calendar. Many people believe that it is something similar to the book of Revelation We've got the mark of the beast and we're all gonna die, we're gonna have tsunamis and tidal waves And of course I totally believed that previously but I have revised my thinking somewhat and I believe that what is going to happen

24:27 It's something that is already taking place. So the idea is people who have higher vibrations will raise to a higher consciousness level, which of course you and I are already on John because we see through all this. Stay with me now stay with me now, you know we see through all of this bullshit But I think that what is actually going to take place is because ago You know the earth is not gonna kill humans global warming's not gonna kill humans. Humans kill humans That's what happens all the time and The perfect example is swine flu Swine flu was a great example of how

25:05 A large amount of the population is completely being beat down into submission, into a state of fear. And in fact you will be injected with some crap that probably has the potential to kill you if...you know..in combination with your french fries or whatever it is. I love that! whatever the scheme is binary weapons but it's really that and this is whole global warming you know that i think that is really what what what two thousand twelve was going to be about his not like on the day itself you know that that on the twenty first of december two thousand twelve the world ends

25:43 but this is really what's taking place and either you stand above it, and you see through the bullshit. And you don't stand in line to take the shots or your into submission and wind up in a freaking FEMA camp that I think is what all of this about let me give you a couple more... oh that's a topic we're not going use You know, that was my rebuttal. Monsanto and you know we've got to stay on top of Monsanto and I want to thank oh boy...I've already lost the email I'll get back to in a second this article was sent to me by one of our producers slash listeners

26:23 And it's about the weed-whacking herbicide called Roundup. I'm sure you've heard of this, John, as an horticulturist. Yeah and if you watch the documentary... It is actually in The World According to Monsanto Documentary. Yes So let me just read a little bit This is from Scientific American which I think has pretty good publication used in yards farms and parks throughout the world roundup has long been a top-selling weed killer but now researchers have found that one of Roundups inert ingredients and that's the key word inert look it up can kill human cells particularly embryonic placental and umbilical cord cells

27:04 So I guess what happened is that the EPA, the Environmental Protection Agency approves inert ingredients. Except they never really looked at so most of these studies focus on this on the safety So we're talking about glyphosate. I think that's how you pronounce it That's one of these inert Oh, I have my Merck index. I should have it shouldn't be at the ready Do you have the Merck index by now? I had to run downstairs together Well, we'll get a next time. So what they've done typically is they focused only on the inert ingredients themselves but not on a mixture of ingredients.

27:46 So the mixture of ingredients and all of them inert, what does inert mean literally? Like dormant... It's not reactive. It is not chemically reactive. Doesn't do anything so this mixture actually amplifies the toxic effect on human cells in other words this shit can kill you and there are remnants of this because it's weed killer right so its used on shit that you put in your mouth And if you don't really wash it, and maybe washing won't even help. The thing that's interesting about Roundup is that it was originally sold as an organic product that was completely biodegradable and then it turns out the movie discusses this by the way I want to mention people You can find a movie they have on Google videos but they've changed their name because apparently every time it crops up online somebody somehow finds it and gets it removed

28:41 and that's a now we have to do fine and i have a copy of it i did by the way should download it from you know so if you haven't got here to keep it yet indeed he picked and uh... pass around and uh... didn't you can find in on the google videos but it's it's got like a big change they would have done that to trick people is to change the name so you had to do a search on montsanto then you'll find something with some sum up to snain that is not the world according to Monsanto but that's the movie that it is actually in the envelope. Do you still find it with the keyword Monsanto? We have a website coming, we have a producer working on as we speak and this exactly the kind of stuff that needs to be put in there. Right so anyway they determined that its not biodegradable at all they had to take that moniker off the label and it only degrades 5% per year

29:31 So the stuff just sticks around forever and it turns out to be, they think mildly carcinogenic too. So I've decided not to use it ever but then I noticed that at Costco they're selling by the gallon with a sprayer. Really? So you can just buy this shit off the shelf? It's like retail stuff. Oh yeah, no it has always been retail. Geez Louise! But they're selling it by the gallons And just so you know ladies and gentlemen producers listeners to this program Monsanto is rampant throughout the Obama administration there are Monsanto people everywhere Everywhere they are so in now one more thing watching CNBC yesterday before I basically went into coma

30:19 You know, we've noticed that there's a large amount of pharmaceutical-based advertising on television. In fact if you go away for a couple months and you don't look at American television and then come back, you are amazed by the amount of erectile dysfunction products, sleep deprivation products, nervousness Come on John, help me out. Bipolar! That's my favorite. I mean there are so many products and here is what... Restless leg syndrome. I've got restless dick syndrome. Anyway so

31:02 The report on CNBC was about the pharmaceutical industry and there's a couple of analysts, I've forgotten who they were. And they're saying that the reason what is going on right now is all the patents of big products are expiring in fact you have something called pay to delay which these big pharmaceuticals, you can read it right in their annual reports. It's a line item paid to delay. They're paying generic makers of drugs to not put their cheaper products out in the market because that erodes whatever market share these companies have and they have not come up yet with the new killer product, the new beta blocker drug or whatever it is

31:46 and they are desperately, they are just desperate because this is a trillions of dollar business. They're desperate to find the next cash cow. Enter swine flu! This is exactly why this is taking place if you look at the money being spent by the US government alone on companies developing vaccines, Baxter International developing special processes for creating vaccines quicker. It is in the hundreds of billions of dollars and then go look at who's on the boards of all these companies it is a humongous scam taking place before your very eyes please don't take the shots uh... look at what uh... you know

32:32 the HPV virus, the so-called anti cancer shots that are being shoved upon our kids and soon you won't be able to get your kids into school if they don't have the MMR vaccines. It is just keeping these companies alive! it is disgusting when you follow some of these lines and we've got a really pay attention to it. So I lost my train of thought. Yeah, because you were so amazed by my analysis Well no actually that's not it at all So let's go to one of my clips okay? So let me just bring in the story that broke kind is breaking as we speak

33:14 So last night at 10 p.m during prime time ABC decided to work with the Obama administration and do a one-hour infomercial for the health care initiative, health plan initiative. Now let me ask you a question this is I'm not quite sure what is going on the healthcare initiative means what? The fact that they wanted Well, I hate to say the term but they want to create some sort of a... well it's not socialized medicine. They want the government wants to become a healthcare industry

33:53 insurer. Okay, so you will buy your health care insurance from the government directly or indirectly through your employer? Either way or both and they are of course competing with this entire system they're competing with the big insurance companies who have of course are colluding with the pharmaceutical companies who of course are colliding with the doctors yeah the whole thing's a scam right so the government's decided it's gonna have to do something about it and he has a convenient no bomb at least he sat down in front of a kind of them another one is fake town halls with questions that are obviously rehearsed with uh... charlie gibson and uh... what she starts charlie gibson heat and good morning america he was great asking fluff questions of britney spears but you know now he's like a super

34:37 He's like a journalist and he's there with Diane Sawyer who's holding the mic she looks like a hostess and She guess what she is a hostess And so she's on the mic for the peep that these were this audience which they asked at the beginning how many of them think that this system Screwed up it needs to be changed everybody raised their hands, and how many don't and nobody raised our hands? And it was kind of funny But there's a couple of interesting little sides here that I wanted to discuss. One is the fact that they did this in the first place on network TV and then by the way, they did it for the hour from 10 to 11 and then they did it again. They did another half-hour on Nightline. Oh my gosh! An hour and a half and people were talking on the talk shows about what was kind of risk for ABCM. First thing I'm thinking... Someone bought the time clearly

35:29 What were the ads? I don't think so. Here's what my thinking is, I don't think they bought the time Disney Yeah it's Cap City's Disney now Which is one of the cheapest companies in the world They're are the ones who changed the Florida labor law So everybody who works at the Disney World Park and people have to always remember this Are not employees Oh that's right The guy who scrapes up the gum and everybody in between are quote-unquote performers. Yes, and the labor laws for performers actors and actresses is not the same as people who work for a living their cast members they're cast members and if you and all the doors of them all

36:06 buildings the hotels and everything else it says cast members only. It doesn't say employees only, it says cast members only they stick to this theory... Right so Disney benefits from this new system? I think Disney will benefit from a government health care system And that's the reason they're behind it 100%. I think all these big corporations are sick of paying this health. General Motors doesn't want to pay this, they're probably behind it too. Breaking these companies who have to pay health benefits for employees... Can I ask you a question? As an entrepreneur or someone who has had mid-sized companies with 700 employees to Mevio which is somewhere around 60 if you look at everyone worldwide. Now we have always provided health care, and not only just health but also dental benefits What is the problem? Why do companies not want to provide this as a part of a compensation package

37:03 They've always wanted to but the problem is that it's increased so, they... It has always been budgeted a certain way and in fact it has doubled. Has really kind of screwed up the bottom line numbers for companies that have like 10 or 20 thousand employees and it adds up. Well I think it adds up with 60 employees too but still you know? Yeah it does! But it would be nicer if it was cheaper And the fact that my wife was pointing out to me that our old pharmacist who's an interesting character, you know is retired now but he once told her you know when I was a kid we never had health insurance. We haven't heard of health insurance nobody ever had health insurance just go to the doctor and pay it wasn't that much then you went

37:44 You went home and you know, if you went to the hospital. It wasn't that expensive it's gotten so expensive but a lot of it has to be said once the insurance companies got into the game then it became kind of how can we soak the insurance companies? And so you look at like one of the hospitals locally was busted for... If you went into this hospital and he looked at itemized account of your paying $10 when they gave you 1 Tylenol Now why does a Tylenol cost 10 bucks at the hospital? Well it's specially packaged. So... Okay, so that does kind of come back to the pharmaceutical industry then

38:22 Yeah, well anyway the whole thing is a mess. So they're pushing hard and I think Obama's actually going to pull this off to be honest about it because he's such a sweet talker it's unbelievable watching these groups without the prompter he's not as quick on his...as fast of talker but he's good now I want to play a couple of things here which are kind of not about healthcare more about Obama I want to play the long clip first. And this long clip is a set it up, it's a woman they're asking these supposed questions that are casually done at this thing even though well while this woman is asking this long-winded question they are showing a package that they've produced. A pre-roll? Yeah!

39:09 a B-roll of her and her mom, and then... Wait a minute! So this is a woman who's supposed to be in the town hall. She stands up and then they just happen to have an entire b-roll edited package of this very woman asking the question with her mom etc? Yeah I love it So anyway, let's play this because the point I want to make is after the clip ends there's something that...I want to make an observation for people to start paying attention too. We have with us a couple of people who really represent the opposite ends on this spectrum too. I want to talk if i can to Jane Sturm your mother Hazel Homer 100 years old and she wanted

39:49 She's 105 now, over 105. I killed the bitch. But at 100 the doctor had said to her, uh...I can't do anything more unless you have a pacemaker. Umm..I said go for it she said go for it but the arrhythmia specialist said umm no its too old Her doctor said I'm going to make an appointment because a picture is worth 1,000 words. And when the other rhythmic specialist saw her joy of life and so on he said I am going for it. So that was over five years ago my question Outside the medical criteria for prolonging life for somebody who is elderly, is there any consideration that can be given for a certain spirit? A certain joy of living? Quality of life or is it just a medical cutoff at a certain age.

40:49 Well, first of all I want to meet your mom. And I want to find out what she's eating. Oh! I betcha it's not GMO products. It ain't no french fries So that's probably true. Now the thing is that, but when did Obama become a stand-up comic? Dude he is a fantastic performer He's always been a fan. He is an actor You know my stance on this the guy who's a great actor stand up comic. He's fit. He's just he's it He is the man So he's doing these one-liners and by the way, the way he answered that question was He thinks that he thinks that spirit enjoy and all this rest of this to subject to subjective. Yeah If you're happy my pacemaker with him so good

41:37 So now let's do the, here is another, and I'm going to do a pet peeve piece which is the one that's not really just about Obama. Oh by the way when he finished it with his one liner Obama then says look. Look here's the deal. Listen let me be clear. Yeah so play the other clip that I sent. If a national health plan was approved and your family participated in President Obama if your wife or daughter became seriously ill and things were not going well, and the plan physicians told you they were doing everything that reasonably could be done. And you sought out opinions from some medical leaders in major centers, and they said there's another option that you should pursue. But it was not covered. Yeah completely. The guy is even... You can even hear him reading it in his mind. ...in the plan

42:25 Would you potentially sacrifice the health of your family for the greater good of insuring millions? Or would you do everything that you possibly could as a father and husband to get the best healthcare and outcome for your family. Well, first of all doctor I think it's a terrific question. Ok stop there. One of my great pet peeves is when you ask somebody a question and they say, oh that's a great question. It's never a great question! What is a great question? A great question is the one you already have the answer to That's a great question.

43:16 a great question. A great question might be asked by Socrates or Aristotle, this is just a simple question it's not a GREAT QUESTION! John I want you to know that i put you up there with Socrates and Aristotle...I just want you to know that my friend. Well then I would know if it was a great question and it wasn't. I don't ask great questions, I ask questions Speaking of scripted did you see the Michelle Obama teleprompter flub? No, no gosh it was and I saw it on again. I was on JetBlue so I surfed all the channels. I think it was unlike Greta Van Susteren and So Michelle Obama is you know talking somewhere doing something? You know of course she's very important to a society And as she said she's like that she starts off her speech. She says and you know

44:05 I would really love if the teleprompter was just a little bit higher so i could actually read it but since it isn't, I'll just read from my notes. Oh god! What a way to get out of it man... oh my goodness So yeah well anyway I wish people could really see what's going on. It is so clear how it works and it's okay, you know? And I like the president he sets the tone of the morale of the happiness of the nation and I think he's doing a really crappy job. I think they should change the scripts little bit make us a little happier there's nothing wrong with that. Of course the smoking question...I'm sure you heard that or blogged about that one You didn't hear this one either

44:52 Well, I know it's played up in the Canadian newspapers a lot. Oh there was supposed to be a Rose Garden press conference and I guess there is some bill that he has passed or some law about cigarettes...I don't even know what it was but Someone in the audience, one of the journalists says well you know Mr. Obama as a former smoker have you fallen off the wagon? And Obama goes into this whole answer like well I don't really care about my law just want to great human interest question what yeah that's exactly right and he basically stands there and look I've lied about my smoking cigarettes smoking before due to people that i love

45:30 Which in this case the people he loves should be the American public and he went through this long Bullshit rigmarole of well, you know I am a former smoker And yes sometimes I do fall off the wagon and but I get right back on the horse. And you know essentially 95% of the time I'm a non-smoker The guy is smoking just minutes. You're smoking dude, and your frickin hooked on it You know, ah... Well in that job you think if anything is going to make him take them back to smoking that will do it. Yeah! Nothing wrong with it man but roll your own because at least you're not smoking formaldehyde yeah this stuff's bad so here's a story the underreported news we have an under-we need an under reported news jingle No I don't all I have is real news Mexico expected you know they've already talked about how mexico has legalized essentially marijuana

46:22 And then the June 22nd article, which is this week. Mexican cities will become Latin Amsterdam's they say everything small amounts of marijuana cocaine meth amphetamine heroin and other drugs are going to be decriminalized in Mexico right on that's how you end the drug problems right on good on your Mexico so meanwhile While we're on the legalizing drugs thing, a law enforcement group is backing legalizing drugs. A new billboard off of Busy Street in Oklahoma City's advertising the legalization of drugs as a group called Law Enforcement Against Prohibition and there are supposed to be 10 thousand cops or ex-cops people in law enforcement although

47:07 These guys who are against it, Mark Woodward with the Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics not only disagrees with their message but also those behind it. It's giving parents and kids the impression that this police support legalizing drugs That's not the truth! Woodward said any real police officer could NOT support legalizing drugs Really? Why not?! Ugh... Sticking on- Yeah well if they were to legalize TV out of a job maybe there is a reason for conflict of interest in that statement Speaking of drugs, the legal kind of drugs which are far worse than the ones you just mentioned. Joel who is one our listeners he actually does the Life in Ohio podcast

47:49 Sent us a note, I don't know if you got this one. He said it was about ambient CR which we were talking about on the last program. Right! He says that he was in what they call the titration study The second sleep study they do if your diagnosed with obstructive sleep apnea which I indeed do have. Snoring? Yeah Is that snoring? Obstructive Sleep Apnea? In this study and the previous study they wire you up EEG, EKG pulse oximeter on your finger and if you're in the first study a sensor to detect when you stop breathing which are plastic hooks sticking up your nose. And the second one is your CPAP mask what is that like an oxygen mask or something? I don't know All of which looks pretty Byzantine because all the crap my body...I could just not get asleep! I slept and got enough data for them

48:38 In the first study they record that data plus a video of you sleeping to look for restless leg syndrome So they can give you meds for that. But in the second study, they gave me a dose of ambience ER I slept better but still not great but the strangest thing happened to me while on the drug I was just laying there and it felt like I could not move and my eyes were open And I didn't feel like it was asleep But I was all of a sudden the sleep tech called in and told me it was morning I I remembered nothing but laying in the bed, did not feel the passing of time at all. It was the strangest experience i've ever had. Stay away from ambient CR far away it is bad shit!

49:16 Joel, thank you for your personal story there. And I'm thinking that sounds like an awesome drug man! That sounds like special K. That sounds like GBA's. Especially if you get somebody in that state then you can brainwash them. Oh totally who knows he could be programmed to kill me now. So do you get the real news theme? Don't I always...I'm actually going to put it on a different button so i can fire it faster And now, back to Real News. He's gonna let him keep posting on Craigslist. He doesn't care he thinks is bogus I'm thinking what a what a promotional scheme this has got to be yeah You want to find a hooker go to craigslist these put his kids? His numbers must have gone through the roof, but that's what Craigslist is for it's for two things It's for finding apartments and for finding hookers. I mean, I don't understand. What's the problem? Yeah, it's a good service and you can also there's someone has tied it into Twitter

50:34 I'm trying to see if i can find it. Well, I've heard this in some of the time a hooker posts...I think it goes up Yeah! It's like erotic London or erotic underscore London The London hookers yeah when someone post on Craigslist then you know you get a tweet about what hookers are available and most of the Craigslist hookers is all like I'm in town tonight you know available for tonight only and you know its business I'm talking about a weird business. It turns out that in Rhode Island because of some really screwball way they wrote the law now, they're totally panicked about it prostitution is actually legal if it's indoors Just in Rhode Island or no at the Rhode Island this to some state law They did Sunday somebody screwed up writing the law And so now there's scrambling to make it illegal It turns out that if you're a call girl or something You know, you don't really go out and walk the streets. It's totally legal

51:30 Well, excellent. Good on you Rhode Island! You have a few days left. Yeah really and we haven't really talked about the funniest thing you know and this happened I guess last week where they're now talking about starting a new regulatory body in the regulatory agency that will essentially Watch the banks because of course, you know we didn't have enough regulation and that's why we're in all the trouble that we are in the financial crisis and they and even President Obama endorses the idea of the Federal Reserve Being the body that is supposed to have oversight over the banks now. Please the Federal Reserve is

52:11 is as governmental as Federal Express. It does not, it is not a federal agency in fact the Federal Reserve consists of banks so now they're actually advocating and every single business publication all over this its great oh yeah the Fed there are right guys to watch the banks which means they gonna be watching themselves This is so freaking wrong And you're stunned by this. I am stunned by the lack of reporting in, well The Wall Street Journal now that's owned by Murdoch doesn't surprise me but where is the New York Times on this? Where is it? They are all on board

53:01 So, uh... you wanna play a mystery clip and then we can go from there? Because we're almost out of time. We still have to pitch people who give us donations How are- how are we on time let me see where at uhh.. How do you know were out of time? No! Shit we are almost out of time Oh it's been too much fun Time flies when you're having fun. How do I know we're out of time? Because when you're on Skype, it's got a clock on it telling how long you've been talking Which one I can give you Greg laughs Obama stand-up plastic brain scary or Tony Hawk Let's go with Tony Hawk Okay, Tony Hawk is skateboarding dude right okay now let me tell you that well I'll tell you that just let me set it up I think this one needs to set up

53:40 This is, when I was bitching about ABC News being shallow. This is one of their reports. Hold on... Tony Hawk from ABC News The champion skateboarder Tony Hawk made a little history before joining Obama's conference Pictures posted on his website show Hawk riding his skateboard down the marble halls in the old executive office building He also snuck a ride in the White House Hawks says he was answering a dare from his friend the actor Ashton Kutcher There you go! That's important news. The news today of course, front page of the New York Times is the senator who had an affair Wow gee whiz that's the headline Yeah it's sad So we've gotten pretty close once again to the true bullshit of how the world works We've talked about Monsanto

54:41 The financial system we've talked about Tony Hawk, Tony Hawk the non. We've talked about the non conviction of Bernard Madoff This is usually the point where I would say I believe in aliens They will come to save us so that the government doesn't reach out and And put two in my head and you know and the gun in my left hand instead I think perhaps we should ask people to send us some money because You know we're now actually in danger with the type of stuff and the type of real news that we provide on this program, John. I like the paranoia. Uh, I think that we're you know because we're podcasters essentially yeah were just marginalized nobody takes it seriously anyway and that's what and we definitely need some donations because its actually dried up so go to Dvorak dot org slash NA and I'll have the new page up today which will have some other plans on it besides the ones listed so far done

55:37 Devorak.org slash NA and I'll send you a copy of that HTML file that you can put on the No Agenda library site Yes, and we've received a couple different emails from people saying You know what? I really don't mind sending your money But perhaps you should like tell us what you spend it on And its okay if its... We haven't spent it on anything so far Well thats the problem People say hey spend it on the no agenda jump jet Thats fine Just spend it on something We could put into a fund for jets No! Id like to pay my rent with it If you dont mind that's what I was thinking. Actually, what we need to do is... We need to buy the bandwidth of the connection and rent yeah? That's what it's gonna get spent on eventually Yeah! It really will get spent on stuff that you know we privately pay for at the end of the day You know rents, Comcast bandwidth

56:23 Batteries, oh man I go through so many batteries on this show. And also dinners because we haven't been reporting on too many restaurants of late Do you think can we do a dinner this coming week? Is that... are you around cuz i'm around? I should be around Now do we dare take Mickey or should just be you and I cuz I don't want to get into another fight Well Mickey it hasn't..I mean I wanted to you know but the problem is always deteriorates Yes it does Now here's the thing that happened. I was actually hanging out at Rosie O'Grady's after I did Cranky Geeks with Mickey and Molly Wood. Oh man, you had the babes!

57:01 and yeah both tall blondes, and I'm sitting there. And it was the same kind of thing as the dynamics started to change... ...and I would start to argue with Mickey about something. Molly would take Mickey's side! As opposed that she was the girl beating up the guy when we're this, the guys beating up the girl So it's like you know probably should put it off We should skip one... She'd go shopping with Molly Yeah, yeah, and thats what were gonna use your donations for So it's a good use of your funds. No, but seriously this is an audience supported program and may I just point out that we really bend ourselves into all kinds of

57:47 Of shapes and really work on making this a regular twice-a-week so far scheduled program. Here we are, I'm in New York in between meetings. I've got 15 minutes to prepare for the next conference call Sunday morning we're both going to be getting up early our otherwise free Sunday morning and we do it because we really love doing the show but We need to be compensated for our time and that's a great way for you to participate so the show can continue. And who knows, maybe one day we'll actually go to three shows a week now that we seem to be keeping it down to about an hour which I think is much better timeframe in general for the program. Yeah because we still have stuff left over like the Tony Hawk thing was from last show should've been on last show

58:31 uh... but the point is is that you know if people and i know a lot of people listen to show in really like it so show your appreciation for tonight at we were here we're not going to advertise men's or not gonna be you know be underwritten its egg we have been you-know unless we obviously can get enough yeah but i don't know about all mess up the show because they've got a little bit over with it i want my national review rather than making money rather than yet again for appetizers and I was going to make another point about that, but yeah. He doesn't know. You know what? I just don't know. Why don't you play one more last mystery clip and then we're out of here. Okay Obama's not too long how about this short one the short when Greg laughs is the short one i think

59:17 Oh, we're scared. I don't know what's scary and that is scary scary? I don't know what that is let's play it passengers aboard a transit not land oh wait We did this one already. Oh really. I'm sorry brush erase that one That's the one where the woman says all are so scary in there She didn't know anything you going okay hold on we did play that when I apologize me right they were the rest of wings yeah Okay, I'll pick up some better Obama stand-up. I mean yeah hit it So now on top of the cost of health care and energy, and the recovery plan we've got another fiscal problem. Fortunately, the lawyers tell me that Hillary's ready to settle

59:58 That's a good one. I have to admit though, it wasn't easy coming up with fresh material for this dinner A few nights ago i was up tossing and turning trying to figure out exactly what to say You can hear him launch into the line can you? You can hear him launch into it that awesome! The guy delivers Finally when I couldn't get back to sleep I rolled over and asked Brian Williams what he thought So that's enough of that good. I like that very much what dinner was that from do you know? That was a another You know it wasn't at major did you know TV network it was another one he did a couple weeks later Which was a correspondence there which had like the real working press at it is that the white tie dinner no No, this was no this is a more casual one This was different just don't have all the normal schlubbs

1:00:51 Well, my friends we do have an actor as president and I'm quite proud of it. I just wish that someone else was writing the scripts but that's a whole different story remember we had Ronald Reagan a true actor We have Arnold Schwarzenegger he can't be president legally but he is great politician because he is fantastic actor And that what makes this country great! And I am quite proud of it. We just need different script writers Fire the writers That's what it is Don't impeach the President fire the writers there you go coming to you from get no nation eastern seaboard in a disclosed hotel location with the bendy lamp microphone stand i'm adam curry and blustery northern silicon valley and john c divorce will talk again this coming sunday right here on