Episode 1063 · Thursday, 30 August 2018

Furternity

Mainstream media narratives collide with reality as the Department of Justice faces internal turmoil, millennial office perks evolve, and the legacy of a Senate giant is re-examined.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 57m listen | 39 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 1063

About this episode

Senator John McCain died at age 81, sparking a wave of media hagiography that deconstructs the maverick label as a collection of standard political platitudes. Dr. Steve Pieczenik offers a sharp counter-narrative to the mainstream CBS News portrayal, challenging the military records of McCain, General David Petraeus, and Bob Kerrey. Meanwhile, Senator Chuck Schumer proposes renaming the Richard Russell Senate Office Building to honor the late Senator, a move characterized as high-level virtue signaling.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions appeared on Maria Bartiromo’s program to address the potential reopening of the Hillary Clinton email investigation, while President Donald Trump used the sentencing of NSA leaker Reality Winner to highlight perceived double standards in the Department of Justice. In the Michael Cohen investigation, National Enquirer publisher David Pecker received immunity, leading to a deconstruction of ABC News coverage and the media's framing of witness flipping. Former CIA Director John Brennan also escalated his rhetoric on Bill Maher’s show, labeling the Helsinki summit as treasonous and warning of a third great American crisis.

Millennial workplace culture reaches a new peak as a Minneapolis marketing firm introduces furternity leave for new pet owners, excluding fish and caged animals. This shift toward sensory toys and office blankets coincides with reports of TSA Viper teams and metal detectors appearing at Millennium Park in Chicago. Finally, a review of the Microsoft Surface Go explores the benefits of first-party hardware, while wine judge John C. Dvorak exposes the Replica wine lab as a molecular sommelier scam attempting to chemically map high-end vintages.


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CHAPTER 01 / 39 Discussion

Podcast Introduction and Northern Silicon Valley Report

Adam Curry broadcasts from the "Cluedio" in Austin, Texas, while John C. Dvorak joins from Northern Silicon Valley. The hosts open with banter regarding corporate perks at tech giants like Google, Facebook, and Twitter, specifically discussing the availability of free soup for employees.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· austin· silicon valley· google· twitter

00:00 I had to leave the grandkids alone to defend the contract. Preparing to venture into the other dimension and broadcasting live from the Capitol of Georgia, Star State here in downtown Austin. Telling us In The Cluedio, in the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where there's plenty of news and free soup... I'm John C. DeVore Crackpot & Buzzkill IN THE MORNING! Nice one No one walks away from free soup They have it at Google Not for long

CHAPTER 02 / 39 Discussion

Chicago Travel Report and Austin Airport Commercialization

A travel report details a recent trip to Chicago for a Ronald McDonald House Global Conference. Observations include significant delays with Southwest Airlines in Austin and the perceived decline of Austin-Bergstrom International Airport due to over-commercialization. The narrative contrasts independent local businesses like Book People with their "souvenir shop" versions found in airport terminals.

chicago· austin bergstrom airport· southwest airlines· tsa· book people· midway airport

00:47 No, that's Facebook. You keep messing it up! It was actually Twitter I think we were both wrong. Yeah they should no one should have that support your local vendors people well I don't know where to start I mean travel report McCain so much happening stuff let's just well we traditionally start with the travel report so i think we should go with that okay I went to Chicago Chicago this was really nice Tina was there all week for the Ronald McDonald House Global Conference. Which got some good weather I guess? Completely shit on Friday it rained! Oh well then you're done... Well no, it was a good trip so Tina had a great time in very well organized conference and really invigorated her and the Central Texas team And so we'll come out I'll come out there and will just tack on two extra days and have fun to be in a different city

01:44 We're in love. We're best friends, so it's fun to be somewhere else oh and I got this fantastic deal at Lowe's hotel You familiar with the lows the lose? Hello is that for just one by yes, I was counting cars Well you make them make the sound make this You were counting cars. Oh, I need to have this thing on standby say it again John you were counting cars Listen to that horn!

02:35 You know, with Tina excited about her job at the conference and the collective mission. It was nice! Everyone's positive really good of course to get there after the show on Thursday you know we have our little procedure takes about 30-35 minutes to get the show up and out and it's selecting title in artwork and doing credits And you know, editing an open to the show and the playback was all garbled and jumpy. I'm like oh! I gotta catch a flight now we have this? So i'm pulling stuff from the backup tape but haven't done it from this new recorder yet You say wisely Hey It's Windows Let's just check that again Check that playback again Thank you You saved me a lot of hassle with that

03:22 to the rescue. So yes, I have like two hours to get everything together and get out and get to the airport And I drive myself, you know. I've got plenty of time and I'm not going to take an Uber Of course it didn't have pre-check because I am traveling alone even though I paid for the privilege but I never get it It's probably based on my FICO score Only when I travel with The Keeper So yeah...it has taken a little while to get through the TSA They're like, oh okay I'm finally here. Flight delayed for two hours. Yeah! You know this story man... So what was the rush? Exactly and then you walk around Austin Bergstrom Airport. What carrier was this? Southwest is typically good. This is weird because southwest recently has been having a lot of delays and I can't figure out why they've had him on the west coast too

04:18 I think it's these fires or something. There's something going on that's causing hangups and it affects the entire system, unfortunately. Yeah, usually when you have a scheduled line flight like American Airlines is much bigger problem because they don't have these planes just shuttling back and forth You know, they have to get a plane from a different trajectory and that can really screw you over. In Southwest they can be late but then they're just late the whole day and they have to catch up somewhere overnight or whatever they do so it was atypical but now I don't leave until 8 15 or 8 20 and Austin Airport has become such a commercial piece of crap!

04:57 All these oh, this is the cool Austin here's Salt Lake. It's the airport version of Salt Lake barbecue Which is a very famous barbecue place in Austin and I have an airport version of it It doesn't feel right the old Austin Airport on the entire other hat side of town Was a better Airport Yeah, I never witnessed that one. It was quaint it was kind of like the airport you'd find in Hilo or Long Beach or even Burbank but more like Burbank But Austin's Airport the new one was pretty cool a couple years ago just all these all the concessions that we have a store called Book People not far from real downtown and its one of the last independent bookstores

05:46 And it's really nice to go in there and browse, and people are helpful. They're knowledgeable. It's a real book start. It's not like Barnes & Noble. People support it! They have a Book People at the airport which is... Two cases of books, you know the top ones and then it's all the other chachkis and often weird bull crap. No just a souvenir shop and they've branded it as book people. T-shirts? Yes! It's icky...the whole thing is icky anyway so I get to the hotel in yeah that was like 1145 went into through Midway

CHAPTER 03 / 39 Discussion

Chicago Suite Mishap and Millennium Park Security

A stay at a Chicago hotel resulted in being assigned a handicap-accessible suite characterized by high toilets and shower seats. During a visit to Millennium Park, the presence of TSA Viper teams and metal detectors at every entrance was noted, leading to speculation about security concerns regarding urban dance groups or gang activity in public spaces.

chicago· millennium park· wagyu beef· handicap suite· tsa viper team

06:21 And getting into it Tina also has a little bit of a throat ache because of caught something I'm sure thousand people at the At the conference and you know, yeah little throat ache little scratchy little little congested. Well, I never heard that one a throat ache No, never heard through a sore throat. Yeah, that's what people normally say sorry to it said it's the Dutch in me I like it though. So, I realized this great deal i got on the junior suite? Yeah! It was a handicap suite now I know why was such a great deal Oh well that makes it easier if you get wasted. I got a special seat in the shower and sat up way high on the toilet Like...it's not exactly a junior suite Way high on this toilet Not exactly a junior suite You're on your throne monsieur

07:12 Oh man, so of course unfortunately it was raining Friday. We did wind up walking around quite a bit and Tina used to live there so I had good fun and couldn't get in any other restaurants she recommended which you didn't expect for Saturday night. I did say don't you know who i am? And they said no and hung up but I tried at least So we wound up having dinner at they have a couple places in Chicago Beatrix you ever heard of them. Yeah, it's just you know Wagyu beef and Was you know like? Cooked for 20 hours yeah was good in Saturday I

07:52 It was actually fantastic. Why would you cook Wagyu beef for 20 hours? It was just good, I didn't ask it tasted good we had a good time We drank rosé there it was a Saturday was a big park day They had dance all kinds of dance groups in the park although to get into the park You had to go through security including although we'd have to go through that but there was a TSA Viper team and on premises. You talking about that giant park that's got the Geary stuff in it? Yeah, well yeah and the Bean Millennial Park. It's an open-air park is this guy's... Every entrance they had a security checkpoint with metal detectors look in your bags oh yeah

CHAPTER 04 / 39 Discussion

Uber Dynamic Pricing and Surge Transparency Changes

A conversation with a retired Uber driver in Chicago revealed that the Uber app no longer explicitly states when surge pricing is in effect for riders. The system reportedly uses dynamic pricing based on a rider's perceived price tolerance and plays the "spread" between what the rider pays and what the driver receives. Drivers are advised to reject initial quotes to potentially trigger a lower fare.

uber· surge pricing· dynamic pricing· ride sharing· algorithm

08:39 Why somebody's gonna blow up a park? I don't well the only thing i could think is there were a lot of look at that grass fly There were a lot of urban dance groups and maybe there was some worry That uh gang bangers would show up. I don't know yeah fight that could happen fight Yeah, something like that Uh now on the way back though. I learned something very important. I think it's important for uh for the show We took an uber to midway And the guy was very talkative, retired guy. I learned something new about what they're doing at Uber They just released a new version of the app. I think it's for possibly for the drivers only...I don't use the app anymore So i dont know if there is a new one for the riders But! Uber no longer is stating surge pricing when its in effect on the App so we were just quoted a price

09:34 And the guy said, oh you know it's Surge. I said no there is no Surge. He said yeah they're Surged they don't say surge pricing anymore they don't tell you what their tacking on so that kind of crappy he says ah it gets better see their pricing we already know their pricing rides dynamically based upon what they know about you the rider and thats kinda how to determine how much they are going to charge initially and what the surge fee will be but They also, you know they're making assumptions about your tolerance level basically. He said if you don't like just you should always reject the first fare they quote request a ride again he says 99% of time you get a different quote and it's also usually lower so that they're probing you to see what your tolerance level is but get this! They are playing the spread between the customer and the driver because they quote the driver

10:27 extra amount fair for this surge pricing and They and you know we figured out between the two of us that they had offered him like four bucks more But they'd charged us 14 bucks more so they're taking this spread in the middle and the driver can also reject The ask or the bid basically So, you know so he can get a different price I mean they are building almost like a stock exchange of the ride sounds more like a craps table. I think it sounds like an exchange Well, it's stupid. People don't need this aggravation! Well people don't know this they just go okay cost that much click done good to go but if but now of course now people are going to start to figure it out if you reject it then you can get a different price but the drivers are doing the same so it is back and forth it's like real-time price negotiation without even knowing it I thought that was really interesting

CHAPTER 05 / 39 Discussion

Midway Airport Traffic and Southwest Airlines Reliability

Travelers experienced significant traffic delays reaching Midway Airport, though it remains a preferred alternative to O'Hare. Further issues were noted with Southwest Airlines, including gate changes and a lack of information on flight boards, suggesting systemic problems with the carrier's operations between Austin and Chicago.

midway airport· o'hare· southwest airlines· chicago traffic

11:30 I'd say one thing though, don't you think it's great that you can fly out of Midway? Yeah except it took us an hour and a half because of traffic. There was something... Can you imagine if that took you an hour have to get the midway can you imagine what it would take you to get to O'Hare? No, I don't even want to think about it And then of course and then Southwest flight once there was only half-hour but it was delayed too Very confusing that nothing was very strange. Nothing was on the boards, right? And you know people were lining up for the wrong flights and gate changes and then back to the original gate something's going on with Southwest for sure or at least this Austin to Chicago bit there's something wrong. Yeah, so what are you gonna do? So then but if I can just continue a little well no let's I want this more I want to say but maybe we go into McCain now because otherwise I'm just yapping the whole show Oh yeah McCain

CHAPTER 06 / 39 Discussion

John McCain Hagiography and Maverick Label Deconstruction

Following the death of Senator John McCain at age 81, CBS News aired a retrospective highlighting his military service, time as a POW in Vietnam, and political career. The segment deconstructs the media's use of the "maverick" label, arguing that the quotes used to exemplify this trait were actually standard political platitudes about bipartisanship.

john mccain· cbs news· nancy cordes· maverick· vietnam war· sarah palin

12:22 He died, you know. I heard! Yeah You know what i like about America? No matter what... if you're in the public eye most of your life or your adult life whether it's politics or show business or literature doesn't matter what it is even a lot people think here are shit heel at the end we were big on second chances but also We kind of, you know we always want to thank people for being part of the American story. You know it's like your hero I give it to the guy he's dead He was around me. We hated him. We loved them. We enjoyed him. We despised them Dave I will say after you're done with this that is not the case on Twitter Nor is it the case of one clip that I have but I think you should let me know what you've got first and then I'm gonna tell you what? I've got a couple of ISOs Oh okay

13:22 I have a good ISO, but which this is okay. I have two or three ISOs today for consideration Oh nice. Might as well play the McCain ISO right away And this one? We're getting nothing done my friends we're getting nothing done Yeah that's pretty good um...I thought that was okay yeah it was alright So they have a uh...uh...McCain rundown on CBS which is 3 minutes if you want to hear the real-the whole story of... I have no problem with that Okay, well let's go with it. Again you know he was a hero he was part of our story we can at least honor him for three minutes He is a big part of our show I'm thankful for that Now all we've got is Lindsey Graham living in home with mom I mean seriously this is hurting the show That's the big difference than McCain who had seven houses Yeah and three wives

14:14 what five wives, the guy was an American hero. John McCain senator presidential candidate and Vietnam war hero has died after a 13 month battle with brain cancer the Republican from Arizona was 81 his family announced yesterday he was discontinuing medical treatment CBS News chief congressional correspondent Nancy Cordes looks back at the life of John McCain I've been and a perfect servant of my country for many years. But I've been her servant first, last and always." John Sidney McCain III was a military hero who became a maverick politician. He joined the family business, becoming a Navy pilot In 1967 on a bombing run over Hanoi he was shot down and badly injured then bayoneted after splashing down in a lake When they found out that my father was an admiral they took me to hospital While holding him as prisoner of war The North Vietnamese tried to exploit his family connections

15:17 offered him an early release, but he refused to violate the military code of first in first out. He was finally freed after five and a half years of beatings and torture I do not recommend the treatment but i know that i'm a better person for it In 1982 he was elected to the US House from Arizona And four years later to the Senate. He earned a reputation for straight talk If special interests continue to play a greater and greater role in the formulation of legislation, then we will see a breakdown of democracy as we know it. And I'm not exaggerating." In 2008 he clinched the Republican nomination choosing another maverick as a running mate. Governor Sarah Palin of the great state of Alaska! Palin energized conservatives but in the midst of a financial crisis the country was ready for change

16:12 Democrat Barack Obama beat McCain with a 2-1 electoral landslide. He returned to the Senate, became chair of the Armed Services Committee, drew fire from Donald Trump... I like people that weren't captured, okay? I hate to tell you. And returned it. In many respects this administration is in disarray... But in the summer of 2017 the normally sharp McCain grew fatigued and had a few verbal stumbles. In the case of Mr. Comey You, the president called me. It's a case of President Trump. Tests revealed glioblastoma an aggressive form of brain cancer This disease is never... Wait a minute! They use that as example of his brain cancer? That he made mistake like that?!

17:02 You want this? That's that's a little odd. Apparently everyone has brain cancer because we, that's our show. No sir, I mean in the case of President Trump... Tests revealed glioblastoma an aggressive form of brain cancer This disease has never had any more worthy opponent Still the former fighter pilot returned to the Senate To cast a decisive vote against a slapdash effort to repeal parts of Obamacare And after three and a half decades in Congress, he left his colleagues with an entreaty to work together. We're getting nothing done my friends we're getting nothing done! And the times when I was involved even in a modest way with working on a bipartisan response to a national problem or threat are the proudest moments of my career and by far

17:53 The most satisfying a message only a maverick could deliver quite the hagiography there from CBS, huh? It was totally that but I wanted to point out something and one of the things they got on today's show are these you know These so-called these things. They just call switchbacks. Mm-hmm now is changing the term to misdirection Which as you say one thing and you exemplify it with something else it's almost like a magic trick mm-hmm now There's not one here necessarily, there is one kind of a back ass word one. But I want to play this again at the end what she said at the end. This is Nancy Cordes on McCain clip and this what she says in the end She just has some random quotes and then she says

18:37 Only this could only be said by a maverick. She opened the whole hagiography with the word maverick and then he's like, I'm a maverick, I'm a maverick, maverick. And I don't even know what that means anymore and then when she uses this as an example, the best example she can find of him being a maverick? I want you to listen to this carefully and tell me it's anything but just any old boring statement We're getting nothing done, my friends. We're getting nothing done! And the times when I was involved even in a modest way with working on a bipartisan response to a national problem or threat are the proudest moments of my career and by far... ...the most satisfying. A message only a maverick could deliver You make an excellent point What? Anyone could deliver that message Anybody! You know, I was thinking

CHAPTER 07 / 39 Discussion

Steve Pieczenik Critique of John McCain and Military Figures

Dr. Steve Pieczenik provides a harsh counter-narrative to the mainstream media's portrayal of John McCain, alleging the Senator was a "spoiled brat" who crashed multiple planes and was viewed poorly by fellow POWs. Pieczenik extends his criticism to General David Petraeus and Bob Kerrey, challenging their military records and the creation of "false heroes" in American history.

steve pieczenik· john mccain· david petraeus· bob kerrey· vietnam war

19:30 If we want to have a piece of, a clip of someone who actually knows John McCain's history and there are two other people that are involved in his history that are involved with him. His whole maverick historical being is Steve Pchenik. A couple months ago, I think May as it was known that McCain was dying he put out a statement which you know he's respectful about look McCain is dying that's too bad but let me tell you about John McCain and its not just McCain its just as long as that clip we heard the hagiography

20:08 It also involves Petraeus and Bob Kerrey, if we remember him. And I'd like to play that as a balance from someone who was biased because he's been in intelligence, been in the military has been involved in government and defense for most of his life And I looked up just started to look up a couple of things he was saying in this and they all check out as They usually do with Pacheco. Listen to this. Hello, I'm dr. Pichetti today I want to talk to you about how false heroes are created in the name of honor and and grandeur for our country. In particular, I'm talking about John McCain who's unfortunately dying but he had a history which really put a black mark on him in our American experience of Vietnam and let me tell you what I think. I've never liked John McCain. I knew a lot about his history. I knew that he was a spoiled entitled brat

21:07 at Indianapolis. His father was head of St. Peck, his grandfather was a famous admiral in turn he was one of the lowest men in the class of 899 people and Annapolis you should have been thrown out but his father kept him in. His flying experience was erratic and dangerous he crashed several planes and then crashed on the USS Forrestal killing several Americans What he is known for, though, is having been shot down in a 29th bombing mission over Vietnam. He claims he was tortured and has fractured his hands and his face that's not correct. He destroyed his arms and his face on the ejection however what happened as a POW is the case in point I know several of the POW who were in the hand of Hilton with him and they found him despicable

21:55 They found him to be a coward, a traitor. And the fact that he refused to be released because it was considered bravery was nonsense. The reason he could not leave the prison in Vietnam was the simple fact that he would defy military order and would have been arrested for what he had done as criminal, as a POW. In fact, the rest of remaining part of his life is quite despicable and disgraceful. He was involved in the SNL scandals in Keating He was corrupt and he never had to go to prison for that. Then subsequently, he closed all of the POW records so nobody would know what kind of a treasonous individual he was and then very much like any sociopath, he decided that the best things to do for America is to go to war—any war in all wars. So he invited the Iraq War, the war in Syria, the war in Libya

22:48 at the war in Somalia, Sudan and everywhere else. In fact he killed more Americans than any other president I would have known of even more than George W Bush now who testified for his veracity and the fact that he is going to be a new hero? The man who testified on his behalf is none other than another coward and treasonous military officer, other than David Petraeus. Let me tell you about General David Petraeus a man who lived right next to West Point married the commandant's daughter he was a very ambitious little man received all kinds of accolades as that very smart individual went to Princeton and forced his supervisor to give him a PhD in less than a year-and-a-half

23:33 But what was it that made David Petraeus great? It was David Petraeus. He never really had been in combat and, in fact, awarded himself some combat medals which a lot of military officers said we don't understand how he received them. More importantly, David Petraeus was caught for major felony and the criminal act passing over five notebooks with top secret information to a woman whom he seduced while he was director of the CIA. Normally, he would have been in prison for that for 10-15 years but he got a little slap on his hand so it's not an accident that David Petraeus agrees that John McCain another coward and traitor is a great man

24:15 Then the third man we're talking about is Bob Kerrey. Most of you don't know very much about him, he's a Democrat, he was a pharmacy student and came out of Nebraska He did join the SEALs, he did go into Vietnam and he was injured in Vietnam and received the Congressional Medal of Honor. He knew that he should not have received the Congressional Medal of Honor because unfortunately His foot was shot off and he knew it was just an accident in war. He hadn't done anything that was particularly heroic, he said it to his Present days, he said I don't deserve it. At the same time he received the Bronze Star for having killed 22 innocent men women and children So what's the moral of this story? John McCain doesn't ride any higher than Trump who refused to serve in our Vietnam War But those who excuse themselves accuse themselves of treachery In French we say qu'ils excusent s'accuse

25:11 And let me repeat one thing Ralph Waldo Emerson said a brave man is an ordinary man Who's only brave for five minutes more? Thank you. Good night and good luck there you go I think that says it all what does he think of Aretha Franklin? He gives her nothing but respect Respect. So do you catch that? Je suis, j'accuse, je suis accused whatever the hell it was it was basically the French version of... You accuse I accuse me. Who are accused I accuse you. But you say it yourself. Exactly! Yes same stuff. It's a similar phrase yeah uh I should mention after listening to that which is quite good a good clip um

CHAPTER 08 / 39 Discussion

Chuck Schumer and the McCain Building Proposal

Senator Chuck Schumer proposed renaming the Richard Russell Senate Office Building after John McCain, a move characterized as "virtue signaling." The discussion notes that the media consistently relies on a small group of "Trump-hating" Republican senators, such as Jeff Flake and Lindsey Graham, for commentary while ignoring the rest of the Senate.

chuck schumer· john mccain· jeff flake· lindsey graham· virtue signaling

25:52 that Chuck Schumer of course jumps in on this as a... I'm very skeptical by the fact that all these Democrats are all gung-ho for McCain. Well, if you just take... well hold on one second If you take what Pachenik just said there into context That the guy was a liar, a cheater and a narcissist It makes nothing but sense when he's coming to his end He thinks, I'm going out a good guy This is about my legacy! I was the only Republican who stood up to Trump That's what it feels like. Yeah, well good work on that so Schumer wants to immediately rename the I think it's the Richard Russell Senate building a Democrat a building named after our famous Democrat to the McCain Building and I just thought that was a bit much and much yeah it's all virtue signaling at this point all of it yeah that's exactly what it is

26:46 And we'll have lots of that. Well, I think that was a nice balance no agenda report We had the good and the bad yeah You need the ugly now Let me see well aren't we just the ugly isn't that just how it goes? Yeah, there's a joke there somewhere That's McCain he's done He's done that's right you so just having Lindsey Graham left And it's funny, because I listen to all these reports that are saying, you know, there was Jeff Flake, Lindsey Graham John McCain or the mainstream media. There is only senators they quote You know all Trump haters Yeah I mean Graham is kind of on the fence and he handles it better but It's the same people and we got Senator this is Flakes said this Jeff Flake says this and Lindsey Graham says that Where are...there's 50 Senators

27:42 It's rare that anybody else has ever quoted but about four guys. Yeah, they got no brand recognition it's not good enough for M5M surely you understand this Jeff Flake has no real brand or he would be running again He does yes the brand is the guy who? Resigned over Trump yeah, that's his brand yeah That's his brand did he resign already is he still there what's going on? Oh? No? He's still there just now running for reelection hmm so he gets his final goodbye like good work Jeff and Good virtue signaling by pretty much there are some stories that were kind of overlooked.

CHAPTER 09 / 39 Discussion

Reality Winner Espionage Act Sentencing and Trump Reaction

NSA contractor Reality Winner received a sentence of five years and three months for leaking classified documents to The Intercept regarding Russian cyberattacks on U.S. voting software. President Donald Trump commented on the case via Twitter, comparing her sentence to the lack of prosecution for Hillary Clinton, which caused confusion among media analysts regarding his stance on the whistleblower.

reality winner· nsa· espionage act· donald trump· hillary clinton· the intercept

28:21 Okay. One of that, I thought was kind of... How about every single story in the world overlooked? Let me just get one out of the way because nobody in the mainstream even touched it because they don't know what to do with it. This is the reality winner story that we've kind of forgotten about NSA whistleblower Reality Winner has been sentenced to five years and three months in prison the longest sentence ever imposed in federal court for leaking government information to the media. The 26-year old reality winner is the first person to be sentenced under the Espionage Act since President Trump took office." We're not laughing about her name anymore, but wow! What a failure on naming your kid, huh? Reality winner five years of the slammer. Well, another thing I want to mention at the beginning they also... Democracy now is really you know

29:14 pull some stunts and she's not a whistleblower. No! A whistleblower is somebody who uncovers some sort of wrongdoing... And puts their name on it Corruption at an agency or someplace, they blow it out of the water They blow the whistle on someone This is not a whistleblower She had a document that she slipped to the media That has nothing to do with whistleblowing, it was just a secret that nobody wanted to release. But John you have to understand that just like racism racist has a new meaning the old meaning for us is colorist which is a new meaning then we have whistleblower so now a leaker is a whistleblower and a whistleblower is a traitor that's what Snowden is Snowden is a traitor

30:10 Ah, yes you're right. So it's new definitions. It's new definitions All right, back to the clip. 26-year old Reality Winner is the first person to be sentenced under the Espionage Act since President Trump took office. Her sentencing Thursday came after she pleaded guilty in June to transmitting a top secret document to a news organization. She'd faced up to 10 years in prison. This is Bobby Christine U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Georgia speaking after Winner's sentencing. The sentence rendered today is the longest received by defendant for an unauthorized disclosure of national defense information to the media. It appropriately satisfies the need for both punishment and deterrence in light of the nature and seriousness of the offense. Winner's purposeful violation put our nation's security at risk, she claimed to hate America when asked you don't really hate America right? Right! She responded

31:09 I mean, yeah, I do. It's literally the worst thing to happen on the planet." She was a quintessential example of an insider threat. Reality Winner was arrested by FBI agents at her home in Augusta Georgia June 3rd 2017 two days before The Intercept published an expose revealing Russian military intelligence and conducted a cyber attack on at least one U.S. voting software company just days before the U.S. presidential election in 2016. The exposé was based on a classified NSA report from May 5, 2017 that shows the agency is convinced the Russian General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate or GRU was responsible for interfering in the 2016 presidential election

31:58 Earlier this morning, President Trump tweeted about the case saying quote X NSA contractor to spend 63 months in jail over classified information. Gee this is small potatoes compared to what Hillary Clinton did so unfair Jeff double standard Did you see that Trump Scott Adams mentioned this in some tweet he He did what Scott Adams calls one named her So now she's no longer crooked Hilary. He just said crooked Crooked's emails. He's one named her as crooked It is that it's pretty genius. But you know what, what? What's going on? Let me finish this last clip I want to mention something they go on and they bring a bunch of experts in the problem is they throw this gratuitous Trump tweet into the story which really has nothing to do with it now but it just discombobulated these guys because Trump is sounding like he's siding with reality winner because she got sentenced too long a sentence cause Hillary should be in jail

CHAPTER 10 / 39 Discussion

Jeff Sessions and the Hillary Clinton Email Investigation

Attorney General Jeff Sessions appeared on Maria Bartiromo's program, where he was questioned about the potential reopening of the Hillary Clinton email investigation. Sessions' smiling demeanor during the interview sparked intense speculation among "Q" followers and online theorists who believe he is secretly working with Trump to restore the rule of law.

jeff sessions· maria bartiromo· hillary clinton· department of justice· qanon

33:00 And the whole thing, it's just like to watch these guys flounder around with this crazy idea was just too funny. Well something happened regarding the sentencing and there was a clip going around because you know this is of course the work of the Justice Department Jeff Sessions who As far as I'm concerned, he's been playing this game from day one with Trump pretending to hate each other because if we... I am in total agreement with this theory. Let's put the cue glasses on for a second. You know do you have... Ow! I know that if we wear them more the sharp edges will wear off. It's a little hard This is the money honey Maria Bartiromo and this clip was going around as people going Oh, yeah wink-wink nudge nudge look at him smile Jeff Sessions trust the plan We're going after this aggressively. I have directed it personally some of the matters are

33:57 involved on this matter and some of it is matters that I'm not recused on, and we are pursuing aggressively. So you feel that there are matters that you can get into? For example there's a lot of feeling out there that the Hillary Clinton email investigation was a sham! You know Loretta Lynch told Jim Comey to call it a matter That's exactly what he did, and in fact it was a criminal investigation. We know that he wrote an exoneration letter, Jim Comey did before he even did the interview with Hillary Clinton What have you learned in terms of the opening, reopening of the Hillary Clinton email investigation? Will there be charges? Will there be accountability here sir?

34:34 Maria, we're going to do our job in this department properly and correctly. And I'm not going to be led into discussion of all the details that you might be interested in. We can't do that in the media. We're gonna restore the rule of law. We are going to restore propriety on how cases are managed and that's all I can promise you And he has this big smile at the end. I know that this was discussed heavily because someone tagged me in this tweet thread which went on for 19 hours people jumping in like, yeah! He's smiling and he's gonna do it, trust the plan Q knows... It was really interesting to watch and we can see it of course clearly with the glasses on Yeah these glasses are smudged Well alright take them off

CHAPTER 11 / 39 Discussion

Trump vs. Sessions and Lindsey Graham's Shift

The ongoing public feud between President Trump and Attorney General Jeff Sessions is analyzed as a potential strategic distraction. Senator Lindsey Graham indicated a shift in tone, suggesting that while firing Sessions before the midterms is a "non-starter," a new face at the Department of Justice may be needed in the near future.

donald trump· jeff sessions· lindsey graham· department of justice· midterms

35:24 I'm bleeding from my temple. But I said, I said, I've got bleeding from your temples and it is the scratchings Well III still think that Trump is almost on the verge of overplaying his hand on the hate between him and Jeff if you read his tweets But it doesn't make a lot of sense. No, of course not and it's just back and forth It just keeps this thing boiling And now what actually there was I got a funny clip on this? I think we're doing the sessions clip Yeah, I did clip something about this that one of the I think this is ABC maybe Say at Packer story death in football let's oh man packers door and Pecker story some polling results

36:16 I have going over the Trump versus Sessions, Trump versus play this. Oh yes! I see it now of course. Now sessions typically ignores the president's attacks but this time he is pushing back in a statement saying... I took control of the Department of Justice the day i was sworn-in while I am Attorney General that actions are the Department of Justice will not be improperly influenced by political considerations end quote Cecilia yeah was a stunning statement Pierre but now it seems to not be a question whether The president will fire Jeff Sessions, but when? Especially on Capitol Hill. People wondering before or after the midterms That's a great question, Cecilia. Some Senate Republicans are circling the wagons around Sessions warning President Trump not to fire him One senator is saying that forcing Sessions out would be quote bad for the country Others like Senator Lindsey Graham suggesting that while the president has a right To an attorney general he had faith in firing sessions before the midterm elections is a non-starter

37:12 But Graham said there will come a point sooner rather than later where it will be time to have a new face at the Justice Department. But a growing number of law enforcement officials are worried that President Trump is more concerned about loyalty than the rule of law and he's trying to control the Justice Department, Cecilia. That was a major shift in tone from Lindsey Graham. Okay Pierre thank you. Yeah it's like a mob boss! It's all about loyalty boys...that's what you do when your'e in the mob There's a couple things Trump must have noted which is that Sessions was an early target of the let's get rid of all these people You know Flynn and everyone whatever we could do get him out of there But because he started this feud with sessions, I think they completely backed off from even thinking if you know Yeah, but again go just let it go. Oh Trump hates them They may he must be okay then put him in McCain's grave

CHAPTER 12 / 39 Discussion

David Pecker Immunity and ABC News Media Deconstruction

National Enquirer publisher David Pecker was granted immunity in the Michael Cohen investigation. A deconstruction of ABC News coverage by Tom Yamas highlights "chicken shit journalism," where Trump quotes are taken out of context to suggest he is "slamming" individuals when he is actually lamenting the legal situation of "flipping" witnesses.

david pecker· national enquirer· michael cohen· tom yamas· abc news

38:03 I don't know why i said that, im sorry. I dont even know what that means. I dont either but it sounds verbad, im sorry. But that idea you know what Im saying? So let's go to one of my favorite kind of back and forths I got here, which is the David Pecker story. And this one here has misdirections two major misdirection that I want to discuss it's a long clip. It's okay. I've got long clips today too it totally okay. Long clip day and there are two...I wanna see if you can spot

38:41 This is like a little challenging because it's not easy to do. I mean, that's why I think the media deconstruction we do is so interesting and we've talked about our methodology before and if you're just the member of the public watching these stories they just blow by you and you get suckered into the misdirection because it's almost like a magic act where the guy's doing something then a big bolt shows up on the post-up magic Where did Bolt come from? It's something...I don't know You know, how about flowers? Rabbit cups. You get the little ball in the cups and the cups and he moves them back and forth. He says which ones is the ball under that he lifts up those cup notes not there and then there's a giant bolt. How do you do that it's oh that's like it was like a double whammy misdirection like what yeah so you go what yeah so they do this to the public bamboozling I think it's called and this is ABC and I on first listen you know because I clip some of these things

39:37 And we both of us do this, we listen and then we hear the misdirection or we hear that the scam after we've actually deconstructed as we listen and listen. But you can't do that when you're watching the show live nobody's gonna sit there and go through things so I have two in this clip okay and it's Tom Yamas and i think oh no the pooper guy No, no that's not Tom Yamas. The pooper guy is Jeff Begayes Oh it's Begays I'm sorry Yamas all right yeah sorry Tom Yamas is what he's a substitute to... oh he's the new guy He's been around for long time at least 10 years but he's not new at all but he is probably shameless when it comes to doing these and ABC is in general and I want you see if you can spot even one of the two David Pecker the president's friend and publisher of The National Enquirer

40:28 immunity in exchange for information about former Trump attorney Michael Cohen. ABC's chief national affairs correspondent Tom Yalmus joins us now with all the latest, good morning Tom. Amy good morning to you it's the type of high-profile split that would likely grace the cover of The National Enquirer but this time the story involves a tabloid The National Inquirer is boss David Pecker a longtime Trump ally and friend talking to prosecutors And according to a source telling them, the president knew about hush money deals during the campaign. This morning another jolt to the President's inner circle tabloid King David Pecker head of The National Enquirer and a longtime Trump ally granted immunity by federal prosecutors Michael what is your message for the president? A source telling ABC News he agreed to provide information about Michael Cohen the president and the criminal investigation into campaign finance violations

41:19 In April of 1999, when we acquired American Media... Peckers company AMI owns some of the biggest tabloid and gossip magazines. And in court documents related to Cohen's guilty plea prosecutors say just two months after the president announced his candidacy in June 2015 Pecker and Cohen hatched a plan to deal with negative stories against Trump by identifying such stories so they could be purchased and their publication avoided. According to the documents, the two men coordinated on silencing 2 women who claimed to have had sexual affairs with the president before he ran for office. Former playmate Karen McDougal sold her story to Peckers company AMI which never published it Were you in love with him? I was yeah

42:08 And do you think he was in love with you? He was, yeah. And porn star Stormy Daniels received a $130,000 payoff by Cohen. Court documents allege it was Pecker who told Cohen Daniels was trying to sell her story and Pecker also helped during the campaign by showering the president with positive news coverage The National Enquirer endorsing him, a first for the tabloid while trashing his opponents. Including the baseless claim that Senator Ted Cruz's father was involved in the JFK assassination then candidate Trump promoting that story They got OJ they got Edwards they got this I mean if that was The New York Times they would have gotten Pulitzer Prizes for their reporting

42:50 But now the president slamming those who are turning on him. Everything's wonderful and then they get 10 years in jail and they flip on whoever the next highest one is or as high as you can go, it almost ought to be outlawed it's not fair And we've now learned that relationship between the President and David Pecker so close that sources tell us The National Enquirer actually kept a safe containing Trump related documents and Tom, the Manhattan District Attorney there are reports already that they are considering charges against the Trump Organization. Yeah this is brand new but also very very early in the process The New York Times is reporting that the Manhattan DA's office is considering pursuing criminal charges against the Trump organization and two senior company officials specifically looking at how the organization accounted its reimbursement to Michael Cohen for that $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels But again guys it's still very early in stages Okay so if I were listening just as

43:43 A normal person who just kind of is zoned out in alpha state watching the news, I'd be like huh? Everyone's turning on him. I think part of the misdirection...I heard two although the first one was really weird about purchasing stories and keeping people quiet before he ran for president I don't quite see how you connect that and the other one that clearly a whipsaw misdirection was Trump talking about these people flipping it's not and they kind of made it about Pecker But I don't think he would that was out of context of Pecker. Did I get anything right? Well, then you may have I think you've got those two or I think your analysis is correct but I don't think those are the major ones I was looking at okay, and And I want to play him

44:29 The first one is this one, which is the Pecker ABC misdirection. This one here... listen to the premise. This is when you premise something and then use Trump quotes Right now listen to it and the quotes have nothing to do with the premise Gotcha a first for the tabloid while trashing his opponents Including the baseless claim that senator Ted Cruz's father was involved in the JFK assassination Then candidate Trump promoting that story. They got OJ they got Edwards they got this I mean if that was The New York Times, they would have gotten Pulitzer Prizes

45:07 For their reporting but now the president slamming those court turning on him stopping stuff So did was he actually talking about that crew story in that clip? He's done, but no That's what I mean. He is just talking about the inquiry in general, but yeah, but but Yama says Trump was promoting the story that Cruz's dad killed Kennedy or had something to do with it and then they play a clip that does not say, does not promote that. It doesn't mention him at all! No I agree it sounds certainly sounds like its in that context which is why so good

45:44 Yeah, it's in context. In a context that makes it sound like maybe you're confirming the assertion but the assertion is never confirmed by the clip they play and this is chicken shit journalism Let's play the second one But now the president slamming those who are turning on him Everything's wonderful and then they get 10 years in jail And they flip on whoever the next highest one is or as high as you can go It almost ought to be outlawed. It's not fair Yeah, I think i was right on that one Where is the slamming? Hold on let's listen again hold on But now the president slamming those who are turning on him Everything's wonderful and then they get 10 years in jail And they flip on whoever the next highest one is or as high as you can go it almost ought to be outlawed it's not fair It's not fair isn't quite the same as slamming It's a lament there's no slam

46:41 This is bullcrap. There is no slamming Yama says he slams people and then he plays a Trump quote where Trump is lamenting the way the situation Is rigged? Yeah, he's not slamming anybody Exactly, and this is the kind of thing that they constantly do on ABC very good Very very good John yeah, that's what you call it CSJ CCS J I'd like to see SJ Chicken shit journalist. Chicken shit journalism. Journalist doing CS, yeah total as a journalist I'm sure you're pertubed, perturbed. Apparently more of an editor at these junctures with this stuff but i mean this is if I was one of the editors I don't know what these guys are even thinking letting this stuff get in on the air Yeah You can say he slammed him and then played a clip that doesn't slam him at all

CHAPTER 13 / 39 Discussion

Newsletter Support and MailChimp Censorship Concerns

A personal note sent to the show's mailing list addressed a significant drop in listener support following a skipped newsletter. Concerns were raised that MailChimp might be filtering the content or that users are reporting the emails as "hate speech," similar to the de-platforming of InfoWars, affecting the show's delivery.

mailchimp· newsletter· infowars· censorship· value for value

47:42 Yeah, and what exactly if you're doing ABC journo stuff? Slammed isn't really a word that should be even in your dictionary Should it know and Tom Yamas is easily making over a million dollars a year doing this stuff Well now you're just jealous because I certainly am well. There's that Speaking of speaking of that just want to take a minute here when we were driving back from Bergstrom Airport Tina's reading your second newsletter to me in the car and I had to reread it again at home because it felt like it was really personal, because it was. I don't know if you intended that way but it came across as really personal. Yeah well it was! You want just reiterate briefly what you said?

48:29 I said that we, here's what happened. So I sent out the first newsletter and then within...I always have this, I can predict how we're gonna do with the newsletter. And by the way, we know that if we don't send out a newsletter it significantly impacts support of the show. It does. We just recently did that. Yes but then we skipped one and everyone got all bent out of shape about it so they did! Yes and donations were very low They were. Um, so I sent this newsletter out And it had an essay in it, I put a lot of effort into. Mainly I spent more than one setting writing it and so within four hours of the mailing there were total three donations

49:16 And the first four hours is when you get all your donations, and there was three. One of the guys wrote in he says hey I got in after the newsletter before the second newsletter and I said yeah you were number three it was a guy $50 and some woman at 30 and this guy who sent the note was like 25 bucks. It was uncharacteristic for the response we typically get Yeah it was very very ridiculous. So I wrote this nasty note And which picked it up, of course. I do this...this note has come out every so often when something like this happens first time this year that's for sure

49:55 And yeah, so I was irked about it. And you know, and I got a lot of interesting mail back. It's like this is why didn't get the news. This is the first time we went to spam. I got a blank newsletter one guy says. Huh? So I wrote this little thing about kind of say well MailChimp maybe who knows but I don't think so because we're not really Info Wars by any means, but it's possible. I mean that was the first thing I said in the car You know John all it takes you can when you can click unsubscribe and you can report as never subscribed to hate It is a whole bunch of things you can say and MailChimp will take action We know they do so I like I said the teen I said it's possible. It's not that hard this

50:41 You know, all you have to do is find a clip or and it could be a total misdirection out of context. And I'm like, oh these guys are A-holes Don't let them use our servers. It could happen! That's always possible... It's not like we wouldn't be able to survive without it and you know luckily, well actually it made me think because upon arrival in the common law condo there was a package for me from Sir Peep Slayer Brandon He had really funny note mainly because he was high when he wrote it. It had book and two packs of rolling papers but in the book which is East of Eden by John Steinbeck It's a good book. And in his note he says, finding your signal amongst the noise has improved the life of me and many others thank you so much for your courage and then I start seeing donation notes coming in regarding the second newsletters that you sent and it of course I also had been Chicago hadn't smoked any weed I did take my vape but the coil burned out after four tokes don't you hate it when that happens?

CHAPTER 14 / 39 Discussion

Value for Value Network and Independent Infrastructure

The "Value for Value" model is described as a decentralized network of producers, artists, and developers who maintain independent infrastructure for the show. This ecosystem includes over 50 applications, search engines, and social platforms like noagendastream.com, operating outside the control of traditional corporate content networks or social media giants.

value for value· no agenda social· podcasting· infrastructure· peerage

49:55 And yeah, so I was irked about it. And you know, and I got a lot of interesting mail back. It's like this is why didn't get the news. This is the first time we went to spam. I got a blank newsletter one guy says. Huh? So I wrote this little thing about kind of say well MailChimp maybe who knows but I don't think so because we're not really Info Wars by any means, but it's possible. I mean that was the first thing I said in the car You know John all it takes you can when you can click unsubscribe and you can report as never subscribed to hate It is a whole bunch of things you can say and MailChimp will take action We know they do so I like I said the teen I said it's possible. It's not that hard this

50:41 You know, all you have to do is find a clip or and it could be a total misdirection out of context. And I'm like, oh these guys are A-holes Don't let them use our servers. It could happen! That's always possible... It's not like we wouldn't be able to survive without it and you know luckily, well actually it made me think because upon arrival in the common law condo there was a package for me from Sir Peep Slayer Brandon He had really funny note mainly because he was high when he wrote it. It had book and two packs of rolling papers but in the book which is East of Eden by John Steinbeck It's a good book. And in his note he says, finding your signal amongst the noise has improved the life of me and many others thank you so much for your courage and then I start seeing donation notes coming in regarding the second newsletters that you sent and it of course I also had been Chicago hadn't smoked any weed I did take my vape but the coil burned out after four tokes don't you hate it when that happens?

51:41 So, you know so now... Is it called a toke when you take an inhaler from the vape? It is in my world. It's called a toke really? It is in my world! Yeah well.. So I'm getting real clarity here and we have built up something very valuable John because just reading these notes now we have you know the Value for Value Network that we have it's a network that understands what action is needed to sustain and grow And let me explain this. So we're like a hub, it's a hub role that we're playing some of it through these messages that people send in with donations this case the messages are about donation but a lot of topics that we discuss on the show originate in the donation segment A lot of things! People sending notes responding to other people's comments and regardless how effective karma and rain sticks are It is accepted and valued action or maybe even transaction within our value for value network

52:39 So a lot of this runs in multiple layers on our stack, on the physical internet and I started to write stuff down what we have in our network. We have our producer that maintained infrastructure with the team Sir Void Zero, Sir Bemrose, Aaroner...I'm forgetting many others You know we've got our own storage and delivery you've got the troll room noagendasocial.com We have some organic form of conduct policy with producers who take on the responsibility to maintain the overall quality of our product all actions of value which makes the NO Agenda Show podcast more than just a podcast. And don't forget the artists and the radio station! I wrote them down, we have at least 50 maintained applications web and otherwise We have the art generator, no agenda player, no agenda search

53:29 We have Dave Jones who continues to build on the original Freedom Controller that takes all of our data, turns it into show notes and archives them in multiple formats that are machine readable. Other web applications access this, the content the data use it for all kinds of stuff. We have meta sites like noagendaentertainment.com we've transcriptions alert networks like The Bat Single audio producers songwriters musicians DJs mixers often collaborating amongst themselves dudes named Ben dudettes name Bernadette dudes named Mohammed We got Eagle Scouts, Knights, Danes, Barons, Baronettes, Viscounts, Viscountesses, Dukes, Grand Duke's. Help me John I can't remember all the peerage! Anonymous donors, spooks, bankers doctors nurses airmen air women business politicians we have every non-member of the social justice warrior LGBTQQIAAP community represented

54:22 And we have shows that started as a part of the network. We have shows, don't forget there's shows! DH Unplugged, Drymerica, Rhino The Bearded, Congressional Dish, Nick The Rat Rock and Roll Geek I know i'm forgetting a lot it doesn't matter because you can't just jump into this network like we used to contract or hire people at Podshow or Mevio or any other content network because no one owns this No one really runs it as an individual, it just is. And you build up your value by participating and it takes time but my experience is that when you participate in the Value for Value Network in the correct manner you will receive exactly what you need to get out of it I know that's the way it is for me! I don't know if you feel the same but we put a lot in and I think we get out what we deserve

55:05 So the network, again it utilizes the physical computer network no different from social networks just the internet. It's a network of tens of thousands of nodes with expertise in almost any field imaginable we understand how to connect interact and exchange information in a productive manner for all that's why were all producers and you and I John are running this shit out of closet and desk drawer Pretty much. This is legacy! I'm very, I'm like holy... Somebody write a book about it No it's something to continue to build and it will be around long after we're gone These shows all have their own pieces within the network this is this is really hit me again The weed was good too but how many were like a router in this network? A big one but there are others forming Anyway that's my rant for today

CHAPTER 15 / 39 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits and M5M Definition

The show acknowledges high-level donors, including Brian Martin from Parkland, Florida. A clarification is provided for the term "M5M," which stands for "Mainstream Media," used by the hosts to describe corporate news outlets. The hosts also discuss the "off-network" nature of Facebook groups compared to their own independent platforms.

m5m· mainstream media· brian martin· parkland· facebook group

56:02 Well, I think we should then play my other ISO the lip reading Redux Guess it's a perfect closer. Wait a minute roast beef for sale Never just for lemonade is all we will do Thanks John I stood up from 1 to 130 writing that. Oh, I thought it was off the cuff now The funny thing about the donation second donation note what it did because I've never seen this before we have done the year once why do a second note cuz there's I don't think them thing got through because It was like where are those you know nobody cares is this time? We had like 11 associate executive producers coming out of the blue well let me first Thank You for your courage

56:54 And say in the morning to you John C, where the c stands for Chicago was wet. Dvorak! Well good morning to you Mr Adam Curry and good morning all the ships and sea boots on the ground feeding the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there Yes and of course in the morning to The Troll Room noagendastream.com uh where everybody is there as usual doing their important jobs as part of the value for value network and also in the morning to Nick the Rat who brought us outstanding artwork for episode 1062 titled that AI zombies and this was the graphic representation of the target on my head with my bluetooth hearing aids for easy targeting. Easy locating and targeting no agenda artgenerator dot com we just talked about how valuable that is, thank you very much Nick The Rat So I was talking about your little heartwarming spiel

57:48 Mimi says to me, she says what happened? I said what are you talking about? She said the Facebook group has gone crazy. Oh really oh geez and I said I don't care Is that not a part of the value for value network? I don't know. You know, they were both... They're the ones who had this idea of doing a special offer and we helped them a little bit and they didn't accomplish much. Because their off-network John! Their off-network thats why you got to get on network Well there are on a network. Yeah well but the face bag group by definition is off network because you can't just access it unless your member some other network

58:30 Ah, good point. I can't access it and don't know what they're doing... You quit! Yeah, I can't access it And I've been waiting for you to rejoin but apparently you're going to prove me wrong. I sure am We'll see Brian Martin, I want to thank him $350. He's our top donor from Parkland Florida. I'm a first-time donor feel that at baptismal de-douching is in order Okay, hold on let me get everything all set up here baptism You've been de-douche Two months ago I was turned onto your show by a co-worker when I was when I told them that long ago be Abandoned the m5m since they had long ago given up on balanced truth

59:13 By the way, I got a couple of notes over the while. Over the last few months... What is M5M? What's M5M?! And it's HACSR for MSM. Okay? Yes, somebody brought up which is abbreviation for mainstream media So now it's code Yes since they had long ago given upon the balanced truth as we noted with these reports from Tom Yamas Mm-hmm Interestingly I had wished that a show to break apart The media was exactly what the world needed while there are times where I think you go off the rails a bit Okay

59:49 Well, for the most part you are right on target. I liken to the feeling of a shower after not bathing for a few days. The dirt and grime it's a layer of grime that we help wash off M5M Grime Please give me anything else sharped in there all gold followed by Dana Loesch What's wrong with you? Round it off by Space Force There's something wrong with you there's something seriously wrong You've got karma It was the clip about being wrong and it was the wrong clip. Yeah, let me just see if I do have it somewhere Don't yeah you finish this show with it? No, uh, I don't know

1:00:43 Okay, so I got a good one and i thought that was good. That was it was a good one to roger boots in mechanics of liowa three hundred thirty three dollars ahead helluva time with paypal couldn't figure out how did you pop money can do but don't do pop money with pay pal's is the different system Only took a couple of hours, but Sir Roger Boots coming through. I don't know what the deal was with that but we need to discuss it or have to put something in the newsletter describing how it works and different mechanisms out there We use PayPal primarily just straight up Norman Walls in Kailua-Kona 333

1:01:30 You guys finally shamed me into donating. My daughter, Jay looks at that note as one of you saw coming back and she says wow harsh legit harsh bro said you got to do what you gotta do and it resulted in finally Norman Walls coming on board it's about time yes keep up the good work a de-douching and a little L Sharpton wrist You've been de-douche'd. He's getting lunch at Chipotle! Sing along! The tortise in the race, Kim Kardashian, Sigourney Weaver, Pusha ESPICT They're all jitty! You've got karma. Oh it is a favorite

CHAPTER 16 / 39 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony and Al Sharpton Memes

A knighting ceremony is conducted for Sir Lucifer and other producers. The segment features a recurring meme involving Al Sharpton's mispronunciation of words like "RESPECT" and "tortoise," mixed with references to Chipotle and political "rotation" lists.

knighting· al sharpton· chipotle· trump rotation· memes

1:02:29 What I like is the word tortice. The tortice in the race, Sigourney Weaver! William Alston in Baltimore Maryland 333 there's no note and there's no email from an Alston anyway. I'll look around or William can send us something separately Kevin Thomas Sir Kevlar in Samaritan Georgia $300 ITM that's what he says I GM to you. Wow, wow, wow. Oh, there we go. Sir Kevin was sir Kevlar and this one oh this is I see what happened. Sir do do so for Sir Lucifer he's a big time producer here in Austin Texas producer of multiple programs not just ours. Thank you 5510

1:03:30 Night of Four Strings, Funk for Kids and Time Travel. Excellent words on the Democrat vote drive campaign rotation for the upcoming election cycles Mr. Dvorak it's reason why for my support. Wait wait before you continue I want to thank Craig Rogers who registered Trumprotation.com which points to the list! Yes it does Thank You Craig Do you send your note? Because I had that set up. That's all I got, oh I'm sorry that was very nice to do trumprotation.com and boom you're there it just forwards to the weird htm dot hc well that's not weird that's our culture

1:04:16 Anyway, I voted for the rotationist and then the essay was about the impeachment cycle. It's a reason for my support all hats off to the recent jingles and end of show mixes Adam continue with your memes even if John seems disinterested And the OTG segments will age like fine wine This double nickels on the dime on top of two C's is a token of my appreciation for the work you both do. Please play Sharpton Respect! Yes, girl. Yeah, we could play that same one again way We can listen to it over and over little girl yay train horn guy and goat Karma with a wolf howl for all And you want you want the longer? Okay, that's good. I was gonna be sure yeah sure hell yeah, it's Ortiz the tortise in the hair who is getting lunch at Chipotle The tortoises in the race

1:05:12 Kim Kardashian, Sigourney Weaver, R-E-S-P-I-C-T. They're all jitty with it! R-E-S-P-I-C-T There's no real conflict! Resist! We munch! Resist! We munch! We must and we will much about that be committed. Oh my god! Woooo! Listen to that horn! You've got karma.

CHAPTER 17 / 39 Discussion

International Donors and the "Dude Named Ben" Origin

Donors from Australia and the U.S. are recognized, leading to an explanation of the "Dude Named Ben" meme. The phrase originated from IRS official Lois Lerner's testimony, where she dismissively referred to an IT staffer as just "some guy named Ben," highlighting the disconnect between management and technical staff.

australia· dude named ben· lois lerner· irs· it department

1:05:54 Eric Crowley, Parts Unknown $252.52 Recent episodes have been some of the best in my four years of listening Keep up the great work! Request jobs Karma Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs You've got karma Baroness of Kendall County, Dame Judy Schwartz. $250 in Burn-Burney...Burney Texas is that right? Burney Texas correct! Bernie Texas, Bernie Texas no note there except for her name. Now she says Karma For All is what you request. Says it right there. You've got karma. Dave Kaplan Hunters Hill New South Wales Australia 24420

1:06:45 Uh, listener since 2014 first donation so please de-douche me. Knook? You've been de-douched My first donation is supposed to be 3333, 333.33 making him an eagle we have to make sure to push him to executive producer because we've made the decision that Australian dollars are equivalent which today according to an evil sauce Google is 24420 as four and two are my favorite numbers in thirty-three's magic excuse me these are clear signs I need to donate

1:07:26 Due to PayPal and other international banking rip-off slaves reasons, it's actually costing me more like $350. Unbelievable. It's a scam. A lot of show great for listening and comprehension an in today's crazy world sanity it's my best source of news as your US and my Australian MSMs are F'n useless. Keep up the great work, please! My plan is to be sort of capo of the Agunya beach down under someday and then not too distant future... Question? Here's another question to ask because people seem to

1:08:03 They miss I don't know we try to explain it over and over but they still gets missed. What is a dude named Ben? A dude name Ben yes please explain. Do you have the clip? I do, I do. Dude name Ben came up when it was Jason Chaffetz I believe was grilling Lois Werner from the IRS who said that her emails had been deleted, didn't know where they went and she didn't really talk to anyone in IT because as we know on this show the people the admins who really run the world and have it in control are disrespected by front office just disrespected treated like morons often and smelly little beasts down the basement. And then this happened

1:08:45 And that shocked us all! It did, and we went WOW! Holy crap. Is this it? It is the closest the treasury to- No that's not in either oh shoot! Ah this pisses me off. We're gonna wait do you yeah, we're gonna wait. We wait until I find absolutely but it was what's his face That's why don't understand why is it nice Jaffe? Yeah, I think his first name may have been Ben so a guy named Bennett dude named Ben there you go No that was that was chafetz I mean, Chafetz. Yeah. I think his first name may... Chafetz was grilling this woman and he it was about the Lois Lerner episode It was Lois Lerner! She's the one that... Oh, was it Lois? Yeah, it was Lois Lerner yeah oh it's funny And she said I don't know just some guy named Ben I don't know who the hell works in IT and he says... I think his first name may have been Ben So a guy named Ben A dude named Ben Ben is just a dude named Ben

CHAPTER 18 / 39 Discussion

Amygdala Bloating and the Religion of Politics

A donor's note suggests that modern news, science, and politics have become a "new religion" for people seeking a sense of belonging. This shift is blamed for "amygdala bloating," where individuals are kept in a state of constant fear and outrage by social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter.

amygdala· religion· social media· science· ritual

1:09:45 It's just a dude named Ben. That's where Dude Named Ben comes from. Yes, Baron Craig Kuttner in North... and by the way again we just played the clip and somebody starts calling themselves Dude Named Ben it caught on yeah It wasn't our idea to make it a meme. None of this shit is our idea, John! None of it! Baron Craig Kuttner in Norwalk Connecticut 354... 23457 This is weird because we have two of these 23457s when you think it should be 23456

1:10:29 Anyway, responding to the call to arms to rescue the BPITU. America can't let the M5NM win this battle royale! Stop reading this and get back to the show! Turn down speakers club 33 69 dudes also get some house selling karma. That's what I need He says Club 33 do we have a Club 33 jingle? I don't think you have a Club 33 jingle No, no What's the other thing he's asked me well, I can do 6969 dudes and somehow selling karma. Yeah Yeah, okay I can do 6969. Let's see... Yes and house selling karma Give it a shot! See how far we go. Tone down your speakers! Straight from Reseda here she is Raven give it up! Well something like that You've got Karma Wasn't the Bill & Ted but close enough

1:11:30 Not quite. Okay, now we have... I'm just doing a quick search because somebody requested they put their email in here which i won't read out loud donation note August 24th this would be it okay Please keep it to Paul 233 37 and he sends a note and I have the note on the other screen today. I'll be joining the roundtable accounting below please night me as sir up Hope is not someone else can I get some chocolate and peanut butter at the round table? Okay, chocolate and peanut butter putting it

1:12:14 On the list for staff to get that ready. That's actually pretty good mm-hmm I think you can make a candy bar with that theory Jingles, please Since vaccine water seems to stop making headlines how about a clip of her triple goat karma? Now he has some comments after the, those are the jingles. Two things potentially a fun slogan for the M5M along the lines of it bleeds it leads if you scare them you can sail them? Sail them that's what says but I think it means sell em. Scare em selling probably yeah. I have a thought about why so many people are amygdala bloated.

1:12:56 News, science and politics is the new religion. I'm not in the camp saying science isn't true even though i identify as a Christian what I am saying that people have always needed to belong to something bigger than themselves kingdoms countries trades such as fishermen and religion although it's really screwed up over there they just have all All of them have generally filled that role. With religion, people would gather weekly together and if they didn't believe they would belong. Society as a whole doesn't have that. Facepag and Twitter proclaim to fill this but it's empty as you know Even you two have your bi-weekly ritual with each other That you let us all in on That's one way of looking at it for sure Now I don't know he is on the list for being knighted Yes he is Sir Up? Yeah

CHAPTER 19 / 39 Discussion

Wedding Anniversaries and the Russia Connection Song

Stephanie Batters celebrates her second wedding anniversary with a donation. The segment features "The Russia Connection," a parody song performed in the style of "The Rainbow Connection," mocking the media's obsession with Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin.

wedding anniversary· russia connection· memes· vladimir putin· parody

1:13:45 Sir up. Yeah, I get it sir up sir up sir up my millennials stay woke you've got karma Triple go Karma ever heard of it Stephanie batters in Tiverton Rhode Island $200 and 70 cents I donate today To celebrate my second wedding anniversary with my smoking hot husband, Sir Knives of the Providence Plantations. And they never had a fight! On 8-27 $200 and 70 cents is a nod toward when we started dating in 2007 shortly after Noah Jenta's birthday I think i remember this...I think maybe not? Maybe

1:14:38 This is my first donation, but Sir Knives donated 230.33 toward my Damehood for Show 1050 in honor of his 30th birthday in July Unfortunately he didn't get shout out for his Friday the 13th birthday even after I sent Adam an error email with the hope He'd get a belated shout-out during show 1051! No Might have been crappy luck on a superstitious day, but it was Friday the 13th. Yeah But I feel like I have to call out Adam as a douchebag! Sorry Adam No, it's deserved douching

1:15:17 You got it. Uh oh, however I'd like to... Okay, however I'd like to de-douche both Adam and myself if you kindly play the Russian connection jingle and give us goat karma for a healthy lifelong marriage. Also take a space force if its not too much to toss that in. I look forward to one day earning my seat at the round table but for now I'm happy to support the best podcast in the universe and surprise the man I love during our weekly no agenda Sunday brunch as you may know millennials are known for being obsessed with brunch you've been dedouched it's true yeah all right yeah i have that for you of course

1:16:02 Why are there so many memes about Russia? And what Trump is trying to hide Conway and Spicer say things are nicer Than what they're willing to confide So many dudes think that this is just weak news I know they're wrong, wait and see Someday we'll find it The Russia Connection The Donald, the Putin and me! La la dee da dee da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da

CHAPTER 20 / 39 Discussion

Critical Thinking and the Palindrome Birthday

A listener from Wisconsin describes how the show taught him critical thinking and the ability to recognize deceit in media. He notes the significance of the palindrome date 8-1-1-8, which coincides with the birth of his eighth child, and discusses the "douchebag" feeling of consuming content without providing financial support.

critical thinking· palindrome· human resources· deceit· parenting

1:16:51 You've got karma. And you know, we forget about things! I forgot about that one entirely. I forgot about that one too it's a good one anyway Stephanie... Stephanie batters uh she battered you on that one Joshua Kruger in Oakfield Wisconsin $200 I can't tell you how much I appreciate your show. The new level of critical thinking you've taught me and the balanced perspective on the world around us that you provide have been invaluable! I've become pretty steady listeners since the campaign season, and have been wanting to donate for a while now especially since I become increasingly aware of the very real benefit that i get from listening to your show not only can I analyze everything in life much better I am also able to teach it to my children which is far more important to me

1:17:43 I listened on and off with my brother, Jesse. Douchebag! Uh-oh... DOUCHEBAG!!! Starting about 10 years ago but only when i was at his place at that time I found the waking process a little frightening and somewhat painful as you made me aware of the deceit behind everything we see in here The deceit behind everything we see and hear It was a little shocking and abrupt now. I can't take anything at face value I find myself questioning everything and looking for the motivation behind it people are generally lazy And if we take the effort to do or say something it took something to motivate us like I like to wonder what it is? I finally decided to donate when you guys were talking about the palindrome 8 1 1 8 Which is the birthday of my eighth, and most recent human resource. I don't know

1:18:36 I know, I don't like the feeling of not getting paid for my work which did happen once this year and whenever I'm listening can fully enjoy it because i feel like a douchebag. I was surprised when you look at your donation page there are plenty of low-donation low dollar options and these add up. I know they do so on my credit card statement listeners not only are we doing ourselves a favor by donating in keeping John and Adam around for our listening pleasure but we're directly helping spread the truth and light to those around us and that is a worthwhile cause I don't need any karma. Hopefully this will be karma enough and help money stop flowing through my hands like water. Whenever i feel like i should have more money at the end of the month, yeah? I think i'm kind of stealing content from John and Adam and that's my karma maybe play oh my god did you hear that horn thank you keep up the fantastic work Oh My God! Wooo! Listen to That Horn

CHAPTER 21 / 39 Discussion

Millennial Workplace Antics and Kinetic Sand

A donor describes his experience working with a "goop" of millennials who bring blankets, pillows, and kinetic sand to the office. The behavior is compared to a depiction in the show "Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt," highlighting a lack of eye contact and the use of sensory toys in professional environments.

millennials· kinetic sand· fidget spinners· kimmy schmidt· workplace culture

1:19:36 By the way, I want to thank Walter Ostler. He was the producer who created the Russian Connection song. It's excellent! Sir Patrick of the Pugner Order, Coronation Washington $200. Really enjoyed Adam's net neutrality commentary lately keep up the good fight. Christopher Blanco in Mayfield Heights Ohio $200 and there's a birthday here somewhere yes happy birthday happy birthday my smoking hot wife Dame Ashley lady of the lake on August 28 Note after six months of experiencing joblessness. I'm finally Experiencing very job fullness yes, thought it was time to donate at my new job I'm working with a large group of large group of Millennials I think you know like geese or gander Millennials is it is a goop Okay, but it's funny a Large group of Millennials first time and let me tell you

1:20:37 I think you say goop of millennials. Yeah, not just a goop. Let me tell you it's an experience they probably like brunch i'm sure that Some of them come to work complete with blankets and pillows that they stuff around themselves in their chairs some play with fidget spinners putty and Kinetic sand and a lot of them don't know how to look you in the eye when they speak to you God The job is great. Otherwise, okay Wow The last season of the Kimmy Schmidt show, which is only six episodes long. The first episode addresses this. Yes! Very good. And I recommend that class don't you think? You saw it. Definitely yeah upon your recommendation totally spot on

1:21:32 Yeah, the group... The job is great otherwise. The job is great otherwise so hopefully I can put up with the millennial antics long enough to make an impact here. I look forward to the daily drive to listen to the best podcast in the universe on my daily dose of sanity and keep up with good works no jingles no karma. Thank you very much Christopher Blanco Wow, what a hero that guy is. Now that's the hero! Well he's probably gonna be in the same situation Kimmy Schmidt was in that first episode What is kinetic sand and how do I get my hands on some? What is that? Never heard of that one. Just look it up but you look at Kinetic Sand and Amazon... I'm afraid to. Let's just get the donations done. Last donation from Daniel Baronetta The Bayonette in Boise Idaho $200

CHAPTER 22 / 39 Discussion

Baronet Titles and Job Fullness

Daniel is elevated to the rank of Baronet of the Bayonet in Boise, Idaho. The hosts discuss how listeners use their "No Agenda" peerage titles on professional platforms like LinkedIn and celebrate "job fullness" after periods of unemployment.

baronet· linkedin· job fullness· treasure valley· boise

1:22:18 Things may have changed by the time you read this mail on Sunday, I hope so. But John's follow-up to the newsletter was disturbing! Three people? Really?! Well it's been a while that was my cue to donate...I don't know what the rest of the producers thought about them but i don't know what I would do without No Agenda Without this show I'd have no respite from MSM bullcrap and my amygdala would be swollen beyond recovery Step up and contribute. This donation should make me a baronet, I don't know if they got territory in Assur A Rydstad has already claimed the Treasure Valley so I'll need to do some thinking about it. I would like title change to Sir Daniel Baronet of the Bayonet." I don't think that's on the list actually let me put that... Yeah. I'm moving this month so this year, now you can see why So I could have a shot at car-moving karma and chaser relationship karma being a millennial

1:23:16 How's that brunch doing? And I need some Maxine's my millennial stay woke. Thank you both for your courage and pat, we have a lot of millennials who listen to the show and for some reason they get a kick out of us discussing them. It's part of it guys is part of it. Thank you for your courage and passion love in light. Uh, and he's got a little PS from me. Okay. So he needs to stay woken up and uh karma Huh? Uh, yeah. Stay woke and moving karma. My millennials! Stay woke! You've got karma. Gotcha

1:24:00 And that concludes our executive and associate executive producers who, believe me did not exist before that little note was sent out. Except for maybe two of them and I want to thank them for contributing to show 1063. Well no and what i said before thank you very much for understanding how the network functions and it comes back it always does It's a very beautiful thing. I have no idea how it happened, but i can now recognize it and we will be thanking more people $50 and above Magic! It is look a bolt appeared magic And these of course are titles that are real and can be used anywhere credits are accepted and as you can read some people Now are experiencing job fullness

CHAPTER 23 / 39 Discussion

John Brennan on Bill Maher and Security Clearances

Former CIA Director John Brennan appeared on Bill Maher's program to discuss the revocation of his security clearance. The hosts critique the "alternate universe" of the HBO audience, who now cheer for the intelligence state. Brennan claims he keeps his clearance to provide expertise, while critics argue he is monetizing it through media contracts.

john brennan· bill maher· cia· security clearance· rand paul· hbo

1:24:48 when they put it on their LinkedIn profile. So give that a shot and remember we have another show coming up for you on Thursday, and you can remember us at devorak.org slash N-A. Feeling pretty good about that action though thank y'all so much but continue to go out there propagate! Our formula is this... We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, Ray! Hey So I did not see these clips in your clip list, which means you probably didn't see it and didn't hear about it. And I'm happy because I pulled three clips from the Bill Maher show with John Brennan as guest. Spook-tacular! No, Alternative Universe Unhinged is what it was and in fact in order to actually be a part of this we have to do it

1:25:56 Oh no. Buckle in! Buckle in, here we go! We're driving! We're going to the alternate universe! It's going to be only America first! Transitioning now! We choose God! Fuck you! Work. Lot of smoke We have the machines a bit rusty fires in California. Maybe we had to go through this moment I don't know or just the machine is rusty one of the two Yeah, could be so John Brennan comes on as the first welcome to the alternate reality by the way This is where wasn't on the panel he was at one of that use the guest He was there yes stuff from did you see it by any chance? No okay? Oh good. Go good good um

1:26:52 To me this was just all alternative universe and just like those misdirections you played earlier from ABC when you're just sitting there at home on a Friday night watching the Bill Maher show, you're thinking holy I mean you could be bamboozled by this. You would... And why not? He's the director of CIA or former director but you know what I mean people like they have respect for this. This is people are hoping... Before you go on Yes sir Because I didn't see it. Did Bill Maher ask him the question? Because Bill Maher, we know hates Muslims did he asked if he was Muslim? No! I think you forgot. He ran out of time. Ran out of time. But he asked them just about everything else

1:27:33 And of course we start off with this security clearance business and just how horrible this is that Trump has taken away his clearance. We need to clear up the air a little bit about his use of his clearance. You know some people on the right have accused you Wanting to monetize that's their argument against you. You're not here to monetize anything are you John? No, I'm not I didn't ask to keep my security. No He's over at NBC to monetizes clearances and he doesn't monetize it on HBO It's just a nice monetized is an MSNBC mostly all of NBC News. Yes, this directors don't do that

1:28:10 We keep those clearances because sometimes, those in government want to be able to avail themselves of our experiences or expertise or knowledge about certain issues. So people serve on commissions and sometimes they serve on private sector boards whatever but This is the first time in 38 years that I haven't had a security clearance and the basis for the revocation is bogus. Mr Trump and his administration didn't adhere even to the process that they reaffirmed last year And the politicization of security clearances, either granting or revocation is a real threat to our national security. Which is why so many people came out and opposed his action. So I certainly hope that... So many people came out for you? Oh! The big names! Admiral McRaven

1:28:58 Hold on, stop the tape. You can stop it as often as you want John these are long clips. That this left-wing audience of radical progressives that love Bill Maher are clapping and hooting and one thing is they want the security state so bad. Yes give it to me! They're spooks everywhere spying on everyone? Is this what your... This is what they're indicating?! Affirmative Oh my god. He said, please revoke my security clearance. It would be an honor considering what you did to Brennan. Yeah so everybody with a brain is on your side it's interesting Jared and Ivanka still have clearances you one of the guys who was the architect of getting Bin Laden does not. And where are those? You should've... by the way can we see those pictures already can we see those pictures at the burial let's see I wouldn't mind can we see the pictures of bin laden shot through the head i wouldn't mind

1:30:00 No one asks about those anymore, do they? Remember we couldn't show them. We have them but we can't show them to you because Muslims might get angry. It's too disturbing! You know, Muslims might get angry that's what it was come on yeah that's what it was well this seems as though Rand Paul is the one who put this idea yes Donald Trump I didn't know that did Ron Rand Paul start this Or what? The strictum of their clearance or the monetizing clearance. I think so, yeah i think you might be right there. Oh well bad Ron Paul...Rand Paul! Well it seems as though Rand Paul was the one who put this idea in Donald Trump's head and- Dead to me Rand Paul Yeah well Rand Paul has never served on the intelligence committee he knows not which is- What dead to me?! Yes he's dead to me yes

1:30:44 What? I mean, you say that about someone who really really double crosses you personally. Maybe like that person's dead to me But in this case, yeah. Rand Paul's the only guy that could go on that show and actually hold his own and Maher liked him now he's dead to him because John Brennan lost his security clearance and Maher is defending John what is... This is dimension B craziness! Did you not? Were you not in the machine when we came over here? Yeah I'm just saying it's just I've never seen it this bad. Maybe this is down for the smoke

1:31:21 Yeah, and the dog doesn't look too good actually. He's got an arched back he might puke! ...served on the intelligence committee he knows not of which he speaks but yet... Isn't that some- is that Shakespeare? Is he quoting Shakespeare now? He knows not what he speaks. Donald Duck. Rand Paul has never served on the intelligence committee he knows not to which he speaks but yet he has this impression Yes, he does not have what he speaks. Monetizing security clearances so he continues to spout out on these issues but again I believe very strongly in the principle that national security is one of the most sacred and solemn professions in this government and every American citizens deserves to have national security professionals intelligence professionals who are not going to be political not gonna politicized and no president ever

1:32:12 It's not gonna be political all this John Brennan did since the day he got out is bitch and moan politically about Trump Hmm. Hmm didn't he say they're not gonna be political? Jacques you sweet as a coos this use in this government. Remember John, if at any point you get nauseous and dimension B just look at the ground and it will all go away Every American citizen deserves to have national security professionals intelligence professionals who are not going to be political not gonna politicized and no president ever should take that capability away from them Everyone's just jitty with it

CHAPTER 24 / 39 Discussion

Treason Definitions and the Helsinki Summit

John Brennan doubles down on his description of President Trump's actions at the Helsinki summit as "nothing short of treasonous." The discussion explores the legal definition of treason versus Brennan's rhetorical use of the word, while also noting Bill Maher's defense of intelligence figures like James Clapper.

treason· helsinki· vladimir putin· bill maher· john brennan· james clapper

1:32:54 Now, Brennan on the M5M and I do not consider this to be M5M it's HBO has walked back his treasonous statement. What Trump is doing exceeds treasonous so what does he do here? By the way what's beyond treason If it exceeds treasonous, what's beyond? What is the next step beside... Treason is treason. Hitler! Hitler can't be anything else but Hitler just hit like this I Just kind of know I just want to like to know what exceeds treasonous means actually things did he say beyond treason or Yeah, something like that so is beyond It's something well He's going to quote himself again and he's not going to double down. He's going to triple down

1:33:41 You know, I've been having a hell of time here on this show trying to get my guest to say the word treason. Is that how the show works? Like in pre-interview? Hi, I'm Bill Guth, great for being on the show! Listen, you know, I really am having a hard time with this. Could you just say Trump is treasonous while somewhere during the show please? Seems to be hard for him to do that... You know, I've been having a hell of a time here on this show trying to get my guest to say the word treason I think the president is guilty of that and you used terms like that. You said after Helsinki, it was nothing short of treasonous which sounds to me like treasonous And then I noticed this last week some people tried to get you to take it back and you wouldn't and again He sure did he said it was his Irish or whatever? Oh, he sure did and so I guess they didn't say beyond trees and he said nothing short of

1:34:35 Well, I don't know we'd have to get the tweet in front of us. But he did walk it back and now he's saying you didn't walk it back? Then why people are so reluctant...I get it It's a scary word. It's like, you know, don't break this glass case unless you need the... When it's time to break the glass case, don't not do it just because it is a glass case. Yes and I'm not an official of the Department of Justice where issuing indictments on Donald Trump for treason but there are two principal reasons why use that term one is that I think I exhausted all other adjectives in English language to describe Donald Trump failure to fulfill his responsibilities as President of United States number 1 Number 2 when I saw him on stage at Helsinki

1:35:17 failing to be able to say to the world and Vladimir Putin Russia tried to interfere in our election. It never should have happened, it never should happen again and if it does Russia is going to pay some very severe consequences as a result but he didn't do that and so treasonous is defined as betrayal of trust as well as aiding and abetting the enemy. And so that was the word that came to my mind Now he, I wasn't expecting Vladimir Putin to say okay you caught me He's gonna continue to deny this but this was an opportunity for Donald Trump to fulfill his responsibilities To say Russia cut this out don't do it again and if you do it You're gonna pay a cost Kind of like what he did with North Korea I guess But That wasn't the right way to do it either It's so confusing And be able to say to everybody Yes Oh yes Go Britain

1:36:04 And if he said that, he could have said now though we have to work United States and Russia to be able to try to enhance stability and security around the globe. There are important things for the United States in Russia to do I am very much supportive of trying to get relations between the two countries back on track critically important The two largest nuclear superpowers in the world but we cannot ignore what it is that the Russians tried to do and so when Donald Trump failed to do this So he wants to get things back on track, so his way of doing it is going to Russia and just sit standing there at the podium and insulting the guy? Yeah that's what he should have done.

1:36:40 He didn't do it right. And for Donald Trump to be up there and to fail, to say that? He takes their side and not ours. That's a traitor! He calls you a lowlife You, who spent your life defending this country especially after 9-11. No no no he spent his life pushing pencils! We had all sorts of problems and it could have gone way worse than it did He said about General Clapper... is he a general? Yes he was. Yeah they got to him

1:37:30 Like he like you could get to a guy like that That's true. You don't need to he's an idiot all by himself Wait a minute, then now we're defending clapper in the fact That he lied before Congress, bold-faced lie. We know that's a fact. He even admits that he kind of did that and he admits it but now Mars defending him too? Yes the guy is immutable! The guy is... he's a rock! It did. He said about General Clapper Is he a general? yes he was yeah they got to him like you could get to a guy like that

1:38:06 It's not on our side. You're not on our side, you are a traitor if you're attacking our generals and admirals and people who keep us safe! it's not that much more complicated than that to me And I'm proud to stand with Bill McRaven and Jim Clapper and Mike Hayden All of them The ones who are speaking out Oh yes, yes, bravo! Stand with them I didn't want to speak out after i left the government. I wanted to be able to retire and spend time with family. Oh yeah, or play with the grandkids! But I had to leave the grandkids alone to defend the country! This is a very abnormal time this is a very abnormal presidency and the stakes are so high that's why I've decided to speak out and be outspoken And I can see it's not easy for you It's not

CHAPTER 25 / 39 Discussion

Brennan's Civil War Warning and the Third Great Crisis

John Brennan characterizes the current political climate as the third great crisis in American history, ranking it alongside the Revolutionary War and the Civil War. He expressed concern that Trump's rhetoric could lead to "spilling over into the streets," which the hosts interpret as a dangerous provocation or a "Hail Mary" from a figure under investigation.

john brennan· civil war· revolutionary war· depression· smedley butler· coup

1:38:52 Believe me, I've been talking to people on TV for 25 years. I can see when it's not easy and people don't generally go into the CIA for publicity That was funny. Bill Mudd... I tell that to Philip Mudd and all these people that come out and they're on all these different m5m networks, and they're all noted as CIA former or even current CIA analysts. Operatives. They never say operatives but they use analyst a lot. And it's like There is a little cachet to that. Of course there's cachet to it! Well he says there's none In all government jobs you can get out and if you don't do it right, you can make hay out of it You can spin gold out of yarn Final clip This is where Brennan goes into full rotation Full Trump rotation And takes it to I think one actually dangerous thing to say

1:39:50 Because when you say these things in dimension B, to me it's equal to yelling fire in a crowded movie theater. Donald Trump is the typical authoritarian who's trying to control power. And as he becomes more desperate, and I think that's what we're seeing now because the walls are closing in on him as all of these people used to work with him are now cooperating or testifying about what happened.

1:40:27 So I've been angry because we have somebody in the Oval Office who has really denigrated the office of the presidency. His dishonesty, his unethical... he doesn't have principles and And I am very concerned though, more than angry. I'm worried because now we are in a crisis and unfortunately the Republicans... John McCain, national treasure of New York. Thoughts and prayers go out to John McCain's family. I got into some real Donnie Brooke fights with John McCain over

1:41:09 What's a Donnie Brooke fight? It means... It's a phrase from the Shays. Donnie Brooke is like a major fight, it's just a fight but is it... But was Donnie Brooke guy, a boxer? I think Donnie Brooke fight might actually be redundant Hmm, okay. It's something to be looked up for phrase from the shades Thoughts and prayers go out to John McCain his family I got into some real Donnie Brooke fights with John McCain over policy I never once questioned His integrity and his interest in doing what is best for this country? Well that's pretty bad for a CIA analyst but since John McCain has left the hillies the Republican spines have gone with him and

1:41:51 And there needs to be some reckoning in the Republican Party that we can't allow this to go on. And, and we have an election coming up... No kidding! ...and I'm trying to convince people that it's hard because you know a lot of us in the past said this is very important election and blah blah blah. This is the one. I think we are in crisis that is the third great crisis in American history more than depression First of course the Revolutionary War whether we would even become a country then the Civil War People usually say then the Depression I don't think the depression got at what is most fundamental about this country, it was economic. But i don't think it threatened the rule of law as we have now. They tried to throw Roosevelt out with a coup! Oh, I didn't know this...

1:42:33 We talked about it on the show. Yeah, Smedley Butler was a bunch of Democrats. It's always Democrats trying to over general Smedley Butler General Smith Lee but yes oh you're right yeah and they said we're gonna we want to throw out Roosevelt will disable him or just say he's sick put him aside you take over and Butler said no And that was the end of it. They didn't throw any of these guys in jail, they should have thrown them all in jail! The DuPonts... All a bunch of heavy-hitting again billionaire classes I like to call them Democrats which is where the rich people really reside and they were just.. It was horrible but no no that's fine okay well leave Roosevelt in

1:43:16 So Bill Maher is setting Brennan up here with a crisis, the third crisis. The first one was the Revolutionary War then we had the Civil war then we had the Depression and now... And wait for Brennan! People usually say than the depression I don't think that depression got it what is most fundamental about this country It was economic but I do not think it threatened to rule of law as we have now Would you rank the crisis we're in now that way? I would, and I think it's going to get worse before it gets better. Because don't forget Donald Trump has the authority of the President United States on his hands. Right In terms what he can do domestically here as well as what he can do internationally To try distract attention whether or not he is going to pursue some type of foreign adventure military otherwise But fundamentally though What he's doing this country He's dividing us

1:44:11 We Americans, as you pointed out revolutionary war and civil war we fought hard for the freedoms and liberties that we have right now. And so he's dividing Americans! I'm really concerned that as he continues to play to his base He is further dividing us...and i am really concerned about whether this could spill over into the streets Wow did he just call for a civil war? I hope not But to say, oh I'm concerned this could spill into the streets. And now think it's gonna get any worse than that woman's march right after Trump just takes office two days later. That's about it. The pussy hats are on! Yeah that's our...I mean seriously? The fidget spinners are going to grab their muskets

1:45:00 Or are they going to bring their kinetic sand to the fight? As he continues to play to his base, he's further dividing us. And I'm really concerned about whether this could spill over into the streets... No you're further dividing us, you douche! So i don't know what the principal protagonist in this drama is going to do Well, we're listening to you. I surely hope that those adults and those people in the White House and in the cabinet and in Congress are going to recognize that they need to act before there's a real disaster And by acting whether it is going up to Donald Trump saying this has got to stop You are ruining this country and were not gonna tolerate any longer They cannot turn a blind eye to this They have to forget about their political affiliation

1:45:45 Well first of all Somebody that the left does appreciate and a guy who I appreciate also appreciate Ray McGovern The CIA guy who's been out and about bitching and moaning about guys like this He thinks this guy is running scared from something. There's something up Yes, that would be the number one target of corruption of some sort That's very high level And I think this is his final final Hail Mary

1:46:24 I don't know. He's done a pretty good job offending off everything, look he's got the whole Bill Maher crowd clapping in his favor this makes zero sense in the scheme of things over the long you know the long look at the left-wing politics with Maher as one of the cheerleaders to have this guy getting these kinds of yeah this kind of reaction is very strange we better get out of this dimension before we can before we have to get the dramamine We need to either practice more or that was rough it was a rough trip rough travel

CHAPTER 26 / 39 Discussion

Saskatchewan Bridge Enthusiast and "Foamer" Culture

A viral video from Canada features a man becoming extremely emotional while driving over a new bridge in Saskatchewan that took three years to build. The hosts debate whether the video is authentic or a parody of "foamer" culture—individuals with an obsessive interest in infrastructure or trains.

saskatchewan· bridge· foamer· viral video· canada

1:47:28 I got a clip now, I don't know if this is serious. I think it's not. A little in between clip here. I think just the guy mocking our train guy who was actually... The train guy, our train guy actually was mocking another train guy who I guess was more sincere but now there's this guy. This is one minute, 1 and half minute clip. The guy at Canada and I think there are guys out there like this Because I think a lot of people are just bored about a single man, you know They don't have any women in their lives and then sells in cells. Well in so there's an incel action, I think They just opened a new bridge. I think this is in Saskatchewan or someplace And this guy's out in his car going over the new bridge over the new bridge Waiting for this for over three years Oh super excited

1:48:27 Oh, my heart's pounding. I can feel it through my chest! Can I ask what bridge this is? Some bridge in the...I don't know what bridge...it never says what bridge it is but a new bridge that took three years to build and this guy decided to make a video of himself going over the bridge because you know we all want to...we all care so much. Oh look at this! This is awesome! Well I wish I would have got to go last night but I didn't get a chance to Alright where do I go? Keep going straight It's all new to me. It's like I'm in a new city. Get out of my way white car! You're ruining the experience. Oh sweet, another pass. Alright where is it? Let's see... Warren Avenue 2.4 kilometers. Oh no, I don't know

1:49:17 I'm excited. I wonder how many lanes there's gonna be, probably like 20. 20 lanes out of my way white car. Oh South Saskatchewan River! Here we go here we go! Yeah alright! Woohoo! Look at the river look at the river You can't see it, but there's a river! Oh my god yeah! Wooo! Oh my god it was everything I dreamed of. No no no no no no. Oh I want to do it again! How about you think if I wanna do it again? Yeah that was awesome! Although not beyond the realm of possibility... It sounded pretty fake. I mean this is real. Oh my God!

1:50:13 Come on that's now. That's a foamer this guy was former the former light he wasn't even spittling well I Appreciate what you're doing with that yeah, I think there's guys like that Yeah, Oh possibly Possibly and they're usually womanless for a reason Yes all right since we're doing that kind of stuff guess we can uh Do this. I meant this! Or is it here? Uh... No, why isn't this working today?! Here we go. Now where's Dogs Are People 2!?

CHAPTER 27 / 39 Discussion

Furternity Leave and Pet Adoption Policies

A digital marketing firm in Minneapolis is offering "furternity leave," allowing employees to work from home for a week after adopting a new dog or cat. The policy, which excludes fish and caged animals, is cited as another example of millennial-centric workplace culture.

furternity leave· pet adoption· minneapolis· workplace benefits· millennials

1:51:00 Dogs are people too. Yeah, that kind of ruins my story. Yeah, you kind of like blew that one I don't understand why this is not it There we go Yeah, you probably saw this story and thank goodness someone sent me a clip of it because you just have to hear it To believe if they've heard of maternity leave in paternity leave but what about Fraternity leave as in time off for employees who recently adopted a new furry friend Being offered by digital marketing firm in Minneapolis It lets employees with the new pet work from home for a week, by the way kind of a clue a digital marketing firm Hello. Are you people so stupid? it lets employees with the new pet work from home for a week that

1:51:44 The company says the goal is to celebrate their diverse workforce. This policy doesn't apply to pets in cages or tanks though, so no goldfish Dan I know they're tough too adjust. No but i recently adopted a dog so would like take a week off. Nope sorry too late. I work at Chattel 10. Dogs are people too. Oh brother. We need to have a list of these things too, goes with the fidget spinners and the brunch Good brunch. I like brunch. You don't have to be a millennial to like brunch. I've never liked brunch, it seems to me is that breakfast is at lunch? No its in between. It's an early lunch or late breakfast. They combine and add champagne. I don't mind having a glass of champagne in the morning but I don't usually do it

1:52:47 But you'll know with a brunch, you have champagne and all these different kinds of eggs. That's the thing I like the champagne part. Oh we have to have Eggs Benedict for our brunch! Do they have Eggs Benedict? Yeah they got Eggs Benedict... Okay let's go there Can't be brunch without the eggs put an egg on it yes I like the champagne part always I must admit Oh, yeah cooks or some cheap champagne give you a headache by you have a headache by one By the way I did it. I went to Chicago without the iPhone oh Yes, I did it and that's good better yes And it was wonderful It really when the the OTG phone the kiosk era with the surface go which I just want to mention about that There's something that you know Windows has this reputation of being wonky and it is but when you have the windows 10

CHAPTER 28 / 39 Discussion

Surface Go Review and Microsoft Edge Performance

A review of the Microsoft Surface Go highlights the benefits of using first-party hardware for Windows 10, comparing it to the Apple ecosystem. The Edge browser is noted for being surprisingly fast and lightweight on native hardware, despite Microsoft's history of driver and sleep-mode issues on third-party devices.

surface go· windows 10· microsoft edge· hardware· apple· browser

1:51:44 The company says the goal is to celebrate their diverse workforce. This policy doesn't apply to pets in cages or tanks though, so no goldfish Dan I know they're tough too adjust. No but i recently adopted a dog so would like take a week off. Nope sorry too late. I work at Chattel 10. Dogs are people too. Oh brother. We need to have a list of these things too, goes with the fidget spinners and the brunch Good brunch. I like brunch. You don't have to be a millennial to like brunch. I've never liked brunch, it seems to me is that breakfast is at lunch? No its in between. It's an early lunch or late breakfast. They combine and add champagne. I don't mind having a glass of champagne in the morning but I don't usually do it

1:52:47 But you'll know with a brunch, you have champagne and all these different kinds of eggs. That's the thing I like the champagne part. Oh we have to have Eggs Benedict for our brunch! Do they have Eggs Benedict? Yeah they got Eggs Benedict... Okay let's go there Can't be brunch without the eggs put an egg on it yes I like the champagne part always I must admit Oh, yeah cooks or some cheap champagne give you a headache by you have a headache by one By the way I did it. I went to Chicago without the iPhone oh Yes, I did it and that's good better yes And it was wonderful It really when the the OTG phone the kiosk era with the surface go which I just want to mention about that There's something that you know Windows has this reputation of being wonky and it is but when you have the windows 10

1:53:45 On hardware because it's always the problem is always the hardware and I think you know this better than I do John but I think that many Hardware manufacturers, you know They they have the windows there's all these calls for hardware And I guess there's drivers and stuff that has to be written for how its sleeps or how it deals with monitors Yeah, and and they don't always implement the protocols properly. So You said to me the other day in fact with Windows you reboot a lot and And it's because stuff just doesn't work and then the start menu doesn't go. But when it's on hardware that they were close to the design process or did design, I'm not quite... but you know obviously Microsoft sells them. It's in-house. That's what Apple...that's the Apple advantage always has been. Yes! And it is an advantage. It really works. It really does. And I am sad to say

1:54:37 That the Edge browser, well of course I'm trying everything out and i'm sure it's a leaking sieve but man that thing really works well on the edge. On the surface It's a very, it's a very slick fast lightweight feels lightweight browser. You know if you compared with Brave which... It's probably their best Yeah And I like- It seems to have all kinds of security issues and I think our dude is going to bank in a million reasons never to use it The only thing I was thinking though when it comes to because Microsoft this definitely has an ad based business but it seems to me

1:55:14 That they're, and again I could be wrong but their ad based business is probably just sheer volume base. You know they got basic age and some category slices...I don't think that anywhere near the access that Google or Facebook or Twitter has. I think these guys are just saying hey look we have all these people actually paying for stuff like Skype and we still give them ads! These are great people to advertise too Yeah, the suckers. I don't think they're taking all of your information and slicing They may be but I don't know if any business unit at Microsoft that's doing that to you no You probably have a clue know that it's bogus anyway Yeah, but it doesn't seem like it's a big part of their future They don't act that way so I'm well under Balmer they were kind of headed in that direction I think has been backed off. No they kicked him out

CHAPTER 29 / 39 Discussion

Gatineau Park Hiking and GPS Limitations

Parks Canada officials in Gatineau Park are warning hikers not to rely solely on smartphone GPS, as spotty cell reception and outdated maps can lead to people getting lost. The report emphasizes the importance of traditional paper maps and compasses, noting that some phone GPS systems fail when they lose tower connectivity.

gatineau park· gps· cbc· hiking· paper maps· millennials

1:56:11 Now he runs a basketball team. Yes, so while we're on the OTG tip heading out for a trek and Gatineau Park is one of the great joys of living in this area And it's not surprising that tech savvy hikers are using their phones This is from the CBC broadcast news network to navigate the trails and then the Lac Philippe area. Gatineau program officer Rochelle Paquette says relying on just your phone can lead hikers into trouble because cell reception in the park is very spotty at best and all of a sudden your GPS isn't working you may get lost and once lost it's a lot harder for us to find you and know where you are what's the easiest way to get there?

1:56:51 Paquette recommends that before setting out on a trail, hikers check in at the park's visitor center where staff can suggest routes that are suited to the hikers' ability, warn about changing weather conditions and hand over that old school paper map. Natalie Gauthier of expedition company Great Canadian Trails says hikers have found themselves in dangerous situations by relying on out-of-date GPS maps that didn't include details about terrain conditions or tide changes, or were simply wrong. Definitely it's a growing problem and I think that people forget that their phone has limitations

1:57:30 Something our intrepid trailblazers have figured out for themselves. I'm walking around with it, but i don't have service so I don't know why I think people are getting overconfident having a phone quite frankly. The GPS systems are only as accurate as the software updates that your applications get and so can you see that maybe it's probably still a good idea to pick up a paper map? You know what, it would be because I almost dropped my phone in the lake earlier! So it would have been handy to have a paper map yeah if you know how to use it Well, if you do have trouble reading a map you can always look up and follow those old wooden signs. I love the millennial response. Oh! I almost dropped my phone we would've been lost then Two millennials get lost in the park because they run out of cell phone service says one millennial to another Let's have brunch A couple things Notice this too with some phone subsystems

1:58:35 you can be using your GPS to go from here to there and if you lose self tower coverage, the GPS stops working. And they kind of hinted at this in this report if you listen to the beginning of it because I heard that and I went oh! That's because I guess they're calling home and they, you know constantly reporting where you are or something going on. And when that gets cut off they say well this isn't working so they just kill the whole thing You should be able to roam around everywhere without any cell phone coverage with a GPS it satellites! How-I like the paper maps not bad to learn how to read them not bad to have as backup

1:59:15 There's that, but I'm just saying this other mechanism is bad. You can buy a real GPS handheld device that doesn't rely on the cell towers and it's bull crap! The trees don't move they're either there or they're not. It's not like they need software update. Well this redwood tree in the wrong spot. Give me a break Yeah. Compass helps yeah oh yeah, what's a compass? I have one on my phone! Oh boy. Laro, I got a weird one here all right this is uh every once in awhile you run into this topic or issue that maybe it can't even discuss

CHAPTER 30 / 39 Discussion

Invention Secrecy Act of 1951 and Zero Point Energy

The Invention Secrecy Act of 1951 allows the U.S. government to classify patents and prevent inventors from profiting if the technology is deemed a threat to national security. Over 5,000 inventions have reportedly been shelved under this act, leading to theories about the suppression of "zero point energy" and other disruptive technologies.

invention secrecy act· nsa· patent office· zero point energy· truman· constitution

2:00:02 Maybe it's illegal to discuss it, but they slip into dramas some writers got a hair up his ass. Oh is this an Aaliyah foundation thing? No no this worse oh there's that worse this has nothing to do with that This is somebody who decided to complain about a situation that we have which is the invention secrecy act of you ever heard of that Invention Secrecy Act, I maybe refresh my memory. Well there's nothing to refresh because we've never talked about it so much It is technically called the invention secrecy act of 1951 So they brought it into the storyline of an elementary a couple weeks ago and I was like riveted to this I looked at up did some research on it but let's listen to the clip Early this morning scientist named Ken Fukata was detained by military police

2:00:54 Why? You familiar with the invention secrecy act Sure, it gives the government power to seize control of any invention. It considers a threat to national security Oh inventors patent becomes classified Like it never existed. It does more than that, anyone working on the invention has to stop work immediately and can't even talk about it anymore There's no promise of compensation and the orders can be maintained for years meaning the inventor can never profit from their work And you think that's why Fukada got scooped up? Wow! Well, that explains a lot.

2:01:57 Now I know why free energy is so suppressed. Zero point energy, sorry, I flubbed the punchline. Zero point energy. Dang! Good clip I thought that was a great clip. They revisited it, but a little bit later when they said the guy can't even go to court to get this rescinded because you can't once your is like one of those private papers that you get from the government so you can talk about this paper you can say this you can do that you can do if you can go to court because if you say anything at all you're in violation of the secrecy order that you just dropped on your like Obama and you're screwed! But they also said

2:02:41 be legally enforced. Didn't I hear them say that in the clip? No, they never said that in the clip Are you sure? Yeah Hold on... You think that's why Fokara got scooped up? Not here somewhere He leaked his own work We think he had the most to gain With the public aware of the tech Here There is no promise of compensation and The orders can be maintained for years Meaning The inventor can never profit from their work Maybe not And you think that's why Fokara got scooped up He leaked his own work. We think he had the most to gain, with the public aware of the tech legally, the order can't be enforced. Legally, the order can't be enforced? No if that's... Okay well here is a storyline If it is leaked to the public then the order cannot be enforced but as you've listened further in the clip if he leaked it to the public then he could be arrested I got it The patent could be killed You don't get a patent there is no patent anymore and your are in jail

2:03:43 We have guys who work at USPTO, a dude named Ben. And he, and by the way he sent a note awhile back. I don't think I read it but there's all kinds of shenanigans going on there maybe he can let us know if he's ever come across this or ever heard of it internally? Well I'm sure they've all heard of it but I'd like to know how they... Okay so the patent gets... By the way you can bypass this with something called trade secrets So you could invent something that you know is gonna have be something they can grab. But if you do it as a trade secret, you can still produce the product which but it's more risky because you have one Chinese guy from the PRC working for ya and next thing you know, the Chinese have the idea.

2:04:33 I would like to know how does the patent go, this is what i would ask. Which is do you put the patent in and then is there an NSA guy standing at the door? Who goes and checks it? Pre-approving patents or whats the deal? No! Come on its AI It's AI. AI scans all submissions and oh, well looks like we have wasn't considered much of a big deal this This idea was first employed in 1940 at the beginning of World War two our beginning mm-hmm And it was set so you

2:05:08 can grab the patent for two years and then it goes back to the inventor. Because I guess you can do countermeasures or whatever because supposedly we have to do national security, but you could call anything national security. When they did this Inventor's Secrecy Act of 1951 which came kind of like during the Truman administration lockdown of the entire security system in this country, the creation of CIA and all these things in 47-48. They had it so there was no two year deal. It was like you lose your patent and they take it and you can count them forever. But this is also completely unconstitutional! The Constitution mentions the protection of inventions and profit by the inventor specifically

2:05:59 Yeah, so this has to be a constitutional violation and shall make no law. It's been in play since 1952 And it has not known when is this fought? I don't think anyone knows about it said some worse Apparently loves you've invented stuff according to okey-doke in the troll room one of my favorite writers Daniel Suarez His book influx as the exact same storyline. I have not read influx So I'll but i love that guys writing so anyway according to the wiki page 5002. Turn it while they get the two with over 5000 inventions have been shelved because of this secrecy act and who knows maybe zero point energy is in there

CHAPTER 31 / 39 Discussion

Boob Glitch Donations and Local Meetups

A series of donations in the amount of $80.08 (referencing the "boob" calculator spelling) are acknowledged. The hosts discuss local meetups in California and New Jersey, while thanking producers for their creative donation amounts and "de-douching" requests.

donations· boob glitch· el cerrito· south jersey· meetups

2:06:48 This, people is why you come to the no agenda show. These are the life-saving tips and life altering tips that you can only get here. The more you know in the morning I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda imagine all the people who could do that oh yeah that'd be fab Yeah on NO AGENDA! Come on in So we will do a few thank yous for people who came in about $50 and under 200. Starting with anonymous, it's $160.16. That's a double boob!

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2:08:17 Sir Dirtbag Dave in Concord, California. We gotta do a local meetup so I wanna see Dirtbag Dave for sure 12345 Robert Umberger 123... It would be funny if he was actually a dirt bag. There are these guys up in Washington State you see them at the grocery store and they're literally physically dirt bags. No okay that's a lifestyle They have like a white t-shirt and kind of khaki pants that are just filthy Robert Umberger, 12345. Sir Alex Knight of the Northern Launchpad 12121 He says your commission split from sales to FAAMG is attached? What is FAAMG? I don't know Why do I not know this Well we should know it. Nah he'll let us in a little later Anonymous 113 dot 33. He's in San Francisco

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CHAPTER 32 / 39 Discussion

Michigan Local One and Eagle Scout Achievements

Producers from "Michigan Local One" are recognized for their community involvement. A new knight, Sir Mike of the Magic Kingdom, is dubbed, and his son Jacob is congratulated for achieving the rank of Eagle Scout, a common achievement among the show's listener base.

michigan· eagle scout· knight· magic kingdom· value for value

2:14:00 That's a perky boobs or the small boobs. Small, smaller Kurt Von Aire in Warren Michigan I think he's in the local number one if I'm not mistaken first time donation please de-douche You've been de-douched! These Michigoniants are all... I'm donating because the show has greatly reduced my anxiety is incredibly entertaining and educational you've definitely improved my quality of life. The community, the community aspect of No Agenda what i was talking about earlier is totally unique and only possible because of your consistency in dedication shout out to the producers from Michigan Local One who I met with last week. Good to see you at Local One

2:14:48 Kevin McLaughlin, Locust North Carolina 6006. Circus Media, FEMA Region 86006. Fantastic deconstruction these last few shows. He needs some girlfriend karma. Matthew Cargo who put that at the end 5650 another guy that never donated before I shouldn't have waited so long, he says. Matthew McCoy in Burleson Texas... Oh yeah he gets to de-douche it. You've been dedouched! I think they should ask for it. Ah okay. Just a number or two minimum. Matthew McCoy in Burleson Texas 5555 Lorelei Visconti in Bakersfield California. I am 33 months 3 weeks

2:15:36 and three days old today. And please call out my dad Skyler, my dad Skyler as a douchebag! I'm pretty sure Skylar has donated. Skylar Visconti? I remember the name. Yeah, he's been around for a long time but okay... He is gonna have to call her out then. It's nothing like having your phone calls needed. Yes on the double. Thomas Hyle Jr in Loman New York 5510 He's going to be a knight? Yeah, is he on the list? You know I don't... let me see. No, no, no, no. Well he wants to be Sir Thomas of the Nocturnal Realm

2:16:26 So it's a ton. Oh, this is good! This letter is a good one. Okay, read it. I need to read this. Yep If either of you find yourselves in the Finger Lakes region and upstate New York we would need to arrange a mobile meetup to sample the various wines and craft beers produced here. The Finger Lakes region is one of the very rare weird areas of the United States that actually produces quality wine generally speaking other areas produce it but not It's not an institutionalized thing like it is up in Finger Lakes. That's a thing you should know, David Dietrich and Round Rock Texas 5510 like an F cancer at the end we can put that coming up Gabriel Malakian in Llano California 55 doesn't need another de-douching first time donation. You've been de-douched I have to read this

2:17:24 I graduated from UCLA with a BA in creative writing. I write poems and i've seen the effect that the Trump derangement syndrome has had on my peers, hmm? I also worked in Hollywood as a grip for five years before clawing my way into getting writing work and leveraging my degree those poor folks on set have also lost it! Uh-oh Thanks for keeping my amygdala squeaky clean. My current job as an editor in a tech company is no doubt due to not becoming a hateful, bitter SJW. Hmm! My goodness thank you good note. Good note. Sean O'Connor in Bloomington Indiana 5420

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Birthday Celebrations and Knighting Ceremony

The hosts celebrate several birthdays, including Adam Curry's daughter Christina. A formal knighting ceremony is held for several high-level donors, granting them titles within the "No Agenda" peerage and inviting them to claim their rings at noagenonation.com.

birthday· knighting· christina curry· baronet· peerage

2:22:26 And here's your list for today. It is August 26, 2018 Sir Mike Wakefield says happy birthday to his eldest daughter Ayla Yarish she turns 10 today and you've dated turns 48 in August 26th. Christopher Blanco says happy birthday to his smoking hot wife Dame Ashley, Lady of the Lake she also celebrates on the 28th Michael Kearns has happy birthday to her son Jacob Eagle Scout turning 18 and Sean O'Connor celebrates on the 29th and my very own human resource my daughter Christina Valerie Curry named after her grandmother turns 28 years old tomorrow where has the time gone

2:23:07 Happy birthday from all your buddies and from Uncle John and Adam. And... Happy Birthday! That's what I meant. Oh, there we go. Woo! There was a lot there We have a number of knights as well John so get out the blade Get out the long knives The long one, the long one. Up on stage here on the podium next to our lecturer and we need Thomas Heil Jr., Josh Thibodeau, Michael Kern and Anonymous, and you, the other anonymous both of you please all step up on the stage because you have contributed to the best podcast in universe now value for value network in the amount of $1,000 or more and therefore I'm very proud

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2:24:25 And we congratulate Sir Daniel, who now becomes a baronet. Today he will be known as Sir Daniel Baronet of the Bayonets which is nice little play on words and thank you for your courage and your support of the program in The Work! Again remember us for our next show on Thursday at dvorak.org slash NA so there is some indication somebody in one of the gossip

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James Gunn, Bob Iger, and NASCAR Sponsorship Pulls

The firing of director James Gunn and a broader crackdown at Disney are linked to rumors of CEO Bob Iger planning a political run. In a related story, NASCAR driver Connor Daly lost his sponsorship from Lilly Diabetes because his father used a racial slur over 30 years ago, highlighting the "gutless" nature of corporate cancel culture.

james gunn· bob iger· disney· nascar· connor daly· lilly diabetes

2:25:04 forums said that the gun thing, Disney's director alleged to have made all these... James? James Gunn. The pedophile joker and a lot of this is just a big crackdown going on at Disney and you see stuff like ABC News because according to the gossips they say it's because Iger, Bob Iger. Yeah? The guy that runs Disney is considering a political run as a Democrat Oh so they gotta clear everything out! yeah and he's another of the billionaire Democrats you know this this is happening left and right if you want to do anything in the public realm

2:25:50 politics, news media or otherwise. Really anything in the public realm you've got to be so squeaky clean because if someone doesn't like you or there's just some reason... it could be a competitive thing it could be because they're competing for a prize it could be for an office position You have to make sure that your history is squeaky clean or even let's see where is it I think I have a story about this don't I? Uh, yes. This could happen to you. IndyCar driver Connor Daly's NASCAR debut this weekend has been sidelined by a racial slur. Lilly Diabetes has pulled its sponsorship of Daly's car in the NASCAR Infinity Race at Road America. According to ESPN, Connor Daly himself did not use the racial slur but his father racing analyst Derek Daley recently admitted using the n-word more than 30 years ago

2:26:45 Lily says it's dropping its sponsorship because the controversy has become a distraction. And that's how it works and they didn't wow, they just don't want to be part of the story years ago. It's not even you somebody your father in this case but it could someone you knew yes that's clip of today right there That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. And the gutless corporations which again brings us back to our show These gutless corporations pull the plug on stuff so fast. This is Lilly in this case, because his kid did nothing wrong he wasn't probably... I mean he's like in his 20s and I'm sure as a young guy who was a rookie racer it was before he was born that this happened! Yes yeah probably And they pulled the plug on him and then ruins his career Yeah This is unbelievable

2:27:42 It's unbelievable and this is why we can't have sponsors And you know, we had some guy some jerk wrote a note in saying I don't have it in front of me says Yeah, I guess see why he has lousy donations You guys are just a couple of Trump shills yeah that's right That's us man. Good luck. I'm out said Yeah, and I went over to the database to see if he ever donated. Well He never donated but I went to the course not But I do want to see who's that but he did actually Unsubscribe and disappear. Oh, okay. Well then he did it right way. Yeah But you didn't I didn't need a note now of course not or she'll need it so here's the some interesting thing this is

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UK Police Restraint Controversy and Non-Lethal Tech

A debate on RT regarding a UK police officer using a "palm strike" on a 14-year-old girl sparked discussions on police brutality versus necessary restraint. The hosts question why futuristic non-lethal technologies, like nets or "sticky goo," are never actually deployed in real-world policing despite being discussed for decades.

uk police· police brutality· palm strike· non-lethal weapons· rt

2:28:33 There's a big brouhaha in the UK over some police, I think this was in London. hitting some girl flat in the face with a palm of his hand to kind of stun her so they could get her handcuffs she was kicking and biting and it was impossible. This is the end of the debate about this on I think there's on RT but this police hitting girl in UK, now I want to ask him comment. It's described as police brutality which it isn't you also keep saying 14 year old girl like that has any relevance? Fourteen-year-old girls can cause harm just like anybody else he telling me that two grown people police officers, two grown police officers with four limbs to deal with on one person. They can't restrain those four limbs and the body without bashing their head into a metal shutter." And to go back to the point I made before and don't fully respond it to you... It wasn't bashing your head into a metal shutter! You have talked about this interview as if there's no... It was a palm strike that makes Basin disorientate This is about recognising that if the police are going to respond to video like

2:29:29 With pure defensiveness, I think the problems are only going to get worse between sections of the public that already have a lot of doubts about the police. Black Lives Matter in the US for instance it's not as if the police haven't been brutalizing people for many years it's that people now have smartphones and can record it You would be better off supporting the police in trying to keep order and questioning why 14 year old girls are brawling in the street with other children of that age instead of questioning the actions of the police doing their best to deal with that situation. So this was going on. Every time I see these, I'm always thinking back about 20 years? 30 years of all these crazy things that you used to see when you were younger. Oh and look at the new invention! The police have a big net they can throw over somebody. They have some sticky goo they spray

2:30:25 You can shoot it at something, then they can't move anymore. They're stuck against the wall with a sticky goop. There's all these crazy things but yet we've seen except for the one thing that I have seen used a lot which is they string out like a bunch of spikes on the road. So if car drives over and he loses all his tires but except for that one device so all this other stuff is just pipe dreams. Why don't they employ some of these things once in a while? I always like the idea of the net. Yeah, but where is all this stuff? They just end up having to take their hand and apparently this was like some technique where you'd just palm somebody really hard and they're... Yeah, spatially disorient them! We've talked a lot on this show about political correctness and social justice warriors we talk about it all the time

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Ted Kaczynski Quote on Political Correctness

A quote from the Unabomber's manifesto, "Industrial Society and its Future," is read to illustrate the origins of modern political correctness. The text argues that activists for "oppressed groups" often come from privileged backgrounds and that the movement's stronghold is among tenured university professors.

ted kaczynski· unabomber· political correctness· university professors· activists

2:31:16 He had a little game, a little Ask John. I'm gonna give you quote... I don't have a...I won't do that just I'm gonna give you a quick quote one paragraph and your going to tell me whose quote it is. You ready? Sure Those who are most sensitive about politically incorrect terminology are not the average ghetto dweller, abused woman or disabled person but a minority of activists many of whom do not even belong to any oppressed group but come from privileged strata of society. Political correctness has its stronghold among university professors who have secure employment with comfortable salaries, the majority of whom are heterosexual white males from upper middle class families. John C. Dvorak... Who wrote that? P. Diddy No you want one more guess? Noam Chomsky

2:32:10 I have no idea. Wait, wait, Jordan Peterson? Nope! This is to be found on page 2 of Industrial Society and its Future written by Professor Theodore Kaczynski also known as the Unabomber Yeah Thank you Sir Bremrose for reminding me of that How about that? It's a good quote I'd forgotten all about it Yes super nailed it Written in the 80s Yeah this thing has been going on for awhile This is new people. Yeah, I have another three-parter and I have to I really must say this this episode of Bill Maher show

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Kara Swisher on Facebook and Weaponized Discord

Tech journalist Kara Swisher appeared on Bill Maher's show to critique Mark Zuckerberg and the "move fast and break things" culture of Silicon Valley. She argued that social media has "weaponized" the First Amendment and social discourse, allowing Russians to exploit American divisions, though the hosts argue the platforms are fundamentally neutral tools.

kara swisher· mark zuckerberg· facebook· bill maher· russia· weaponization

2:32:53 If you can stomach it, the whole show is worth watching. David Korn was on promoting his book and we could just play that... Didn't he lose his job because he was like a sexual predator? Oh! Harolded! I'm not gonna play clips from him but some woman wrote a cookbook who's completely unhinged It was a great episode if your into that kind of stuff which is what we do Kara Swisher was also on. Kara is, of course the Recode founder and

2:33:29 She co-founder, but she also is now you know she's expanded her own brand and writes op eds for the New York Times or maybe even journalistic pieces I think as well. She appears everywhere and with the you know the big face bag scandal she's been on MSNBC a lot talking about about her own articles of course and she came on to talk about Facebag and Zuckerberg specifically And, you know I think it's...I can't wait to hear your opinion of some of the things she is saying here. We do have to note that when it comes to Silicon Valley she may have a bone of contention or a bone to pick because she was married

2:34:16 former top Googler, what was her name? Megan Smith. Yeah who is also the CIO of the United States of America under the Obama administration and they divorced so you know she may have a little... I'm just putting that into context i don't know but they might have she might have a bit of a beef like ah screw Google! But, she comes on as the second special guest. You know she sits next to Mara when the panel's on Oh right right that's the one who comes out last Yes and this is about The Purge and about what Facebag is doing And I thought it was very enlightening to hear all of this from her You know you need ID to buy groceries? Yes we do We know that

2:34:59 Why don't you need ID to prove who you really are on Facebook or Twitter? Because it wouldn't make them so many billions of dollars, I guess. It's a really problematic... That is the only reason. That is the only reason. This has been built from the beginning to operate in the way that does which was growth at all costs and also take away your data privacy from you and that what it does So there is no way we can shame them into doing the right thing Well, they're under attack the country's under attack. Yeah this is the modern way of warfare It's not artillery anymore from Russia I wrote a column in The Times talking about this idea values and standards and the fact that they had to get some They had to have them but for what I thought was I did a podcast just recently with Mark Zuckerberg And one of the things when we talked about it Was the was the idea of what was going on? And whether he had responsibility for the platform A lot of these people don't feel like they have responsibility He doesn't well

2:35:55 It's a weird thing. They do now, if you notice when he was in Congress he said we have a broader responsibility and my question when he was saying that to all those various politicians was why didn't they have it in the first place? Why didn't they start by building these things so that they would be...that they would evolve pace with humanities and what I realized when i was talking to him was that he didn't take humanities in college because he didn't finish college instead became a billionaire so they don't have a great sense of the impact of the things they built. Well also, I think we've romanticized nerds

2:36:31 We have you know back when I was in college nerd was a bad word right and then it became though this cute thing Right, you know hot girls like to say. I'm a nerd no you're not You know, and nerds... it's not really always a good thing. I mean Mark Zuckerberg? I'm sorry but that is a real nerd he looks awful, his clothes... Listen to everyone laughing about someone's appearance which wisher calls him out on? His clothes are terrible, he's awkward Bill Gates looks like Cary Grant Really? Right. You know, and that's not bad I'm just saying he's on this spectrum of dweebiness that i don't think Alright now... Hey now Bill! What? You shouldn't insult his looks you can insult his entire service in the way it's ruined democracy but please don't insult his looks

2:37:21 He's not watching. That's my thing, they're not watching you know... I know he was going to say they plug him in at night and he is in the closet. No but I'm just saying when people are nerds that's what part of nerdyness is You have trouble relating to humanity and I don't think they very often have a great sense of humor Yeah it's called an EQ They don't have an EQ What I think it is, is that they don't...I try to talk to them in the language they talk too. So I often try and use like Marvel comics and various things like that. This is a takedown man! Geez this is insulting! Just for the left to be doing this its just shameful Oh and it gets worse This idea which actually a Voltaire quote but I dont bring that into discussion with them Because their too stupid Which is with great power comes great responsibility which was Peter Parkers uncle

2:38:11 I said, you have abrogated your responsibility. I didn't even know that! I didn't either! What is Spider-Man? You mean? Yeah, she's the one that seems like more of the comic nerd. I didn't know it either but they're so stupid i don't tell them its Voltaire, I say what Spiderman would say now do you understand me Zocco? With great power comes great responsibility which is Peter Parker's uncle and so he keeps saying to them, I said you have abrogated your responsibility when you built these things in a way you build them made them so they would operate this way and so when you think about

2:38:48 These sites were not hacked by the Russians. They were used exactly as they were built, right? There was no hacking going on and the Russians walked right in and did them Yes! And they spent a whole hundred thousand dollars Thank you for making my point though I appreciate that Now let's talk about the hearings on The Hill But companies never just do the right thing because you ask them You have to find them you have to threaten them Well thats the question You have to regulate them Did you watch those hearings there is more coming up but did you watch it how'd you think Mark did Well, you don't make me talk about Mark Zuckerberg again. No but I mean all of them they're all coming there what happens is it's an incredibly low bar because politicians are absolutely brain dead when it comes to tech essentially and so what they do is they ask questions during that particular hearing it was about terms of service It was as if terms of service were the biggest national security crisis of our time like that You can't read them that they're super confusing didn't Facebook start out as something very sexist wasn't it?

2:39:45 I'm getting the movie don't go with the movie. It wasn't it wasn't something, but they were just raiding the women Yes, it was a hot or not kind of thing yeah well That's horrible give that wasn't what Facebook was then that was his first thing We do want to be judged by our first things bill Is she referring to him saying the 9-11 terrorists were not cowards? Oh, maybe. That's pretty interesting you'd catch that. That's the first thing that sprang to mind? I don't think so because...I don't think she thinks that way but maybe it's possible Facebook was then and that was his first thing we don't want to be judged by our first things Bill. What was my first? Just me! I'm talking about me! Last clip and this is where she really just

2:40:37 God just tears them all apart. The thing you have to think about is when you think about responsibility, they don't think there's consequences so they don't think about the consequences of what they created and what they invented and one of Facebooks biggest things that were on the walls if you go to Facebook headquarters first of all these headquarters are built as if their for 12 year old boys essentially all kinds of slides and things like that and one time they asked me to go down this slide I'm not going down your fucking slide I didn't like it when i was 8 years old, so im not gonna like it now. But they have on the wall this thing that said move fast and break things. I think you've all seen that its the move fast...and they were all excited about move fast and break things And when you think about it well youve broken alot of things now what are you going to fix? but their mentality was that. Break Things

2:41:29 broke democracy but okay. Yeah, I mean they're part of it i mean the whole all the things we were talking about before with Donald Trump is doing these are part of that but what social media does is it amplifies and what I said in The Times was that it weaponizes everything. It weaponizes the First Amendment, it weaponizes social media, it weaponizes social discourse and it creates a discord and it weaponizes discord and that's that's the problem and that's where the Russians take advantage Weaponize I would like to go back and if you could play it go back when she says it weaponizes socially She's talking about social media weaponizes what? Wait, wait. Oh sorry What I'm looking for is what is she referring to when she says it's I think social media

2:42:19 But that, I think she says it weaponizes social media. Oh well let's listen again. Was that right? Maybe back a little bit just to make sure. Fast and break things i think you've all seen that. Move fast and break things? We're all excited about move fast and break things. And when you think about it you go well you've broken a lot of things now what are you going to fix but their mentality was that right break things break things yeah so they broke democracy but okay. Yeah, no they didn't I mean they're part of it i mean the whole all the things we were talking about before with Donald Trump is doing these are part of that but what social media does is it amplifies and what I said in The Times was that it weaponizes everything it weaponizes the first amendment it weaponizes- You're saying...I think she's saying a social media weaponizes

2:43:03 I'm getting that too, and that's what she said where the structure is. But how does social media do anything? It just a neutral... it's not like a thing that can weaponize anything! It just exists. Social media exists in a vacuum. It doesn't have... itself does not take action. No it doesn't but it amplifies action Maybe she can say the existence of social media invites invites the weaponization of it itself. The way she says it makes it sound like you bring a rubber band and when you're on social media, it's a bazooka I don't like this analogy that she is doing. I can't help ya! But that is Kara Swisher one of the most influential tech writers of our time

2:43:57 Yeah she's never really know that work with her before she doesn't she's not more of a social commentator she doesn't really generally know that much about tech and technically i mean is people doing something don't some people like. Myself, I come from a hobbyist background so into the nuts and bolts and the chips. Because if you're going to blame anyone, you blame the chips it seems to me if your argument is logical extreme. Intel is responsible because with no chips none of this would happen. That's right they weaponized information but she's a commentator and when she says move

2:44:39 ridicules move fast and break things. That is really kind of a techie thing where you want to do a lot of coding, make things so they break and so you can fix them it's just part of the process. What she should be talking about is that Facebook employs an actual army of social psychologists who entire job is to make sure you get outraged There's a lot of things she could talk about, but she doesn't. She just kind of feeds into what Bill Maher wants her to talk about. But remember that's dimension B! It's just an outrage over what? Yeah precisely The Russians and their hundred thousand dollar ad buy Well you know the Russian bots are still at work they never went away

2:45:23 Yeah, those Russian bots. Oh yes so hard to figure out which ones are the Russian bot Yes apparently the Russian bots used Molly Tibbetts death to distract from Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort news stories The Russians are still helping Trump. It's in The Independent it says it right there black and white must be true Must be true yeah Russian bots talk about weaponizing some fucking tragedy Just by saying that alone, just a horrible, horrible publication. Terrible! Yeah really not good Well I like the way they both stereotype nerds and tech people That was good, that's nothing to... Stereotyping is a really great idea And i'm glad to see you guys doing it We've always been for the dudes named Ben and this is exactly why because we know what they're really doing

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Replica Wine Lab and Molecular Sommelier Scams

A Denver-based company called Replica claims to use laboratory analysis to recreate expensive wines at a lower price point. John C. Dvorak, a professional wine judge, deconstructs the claim as a marketing scam, explaining that the complexity of yeast and fermentation makes it impossible to chemically map and perfectly replicate high-end wine.

replica wine· molecular gastronomy· denver· sommelier· wine tasting

2:46:13 But no, nerds. Losers. Idiots! If we're talking about nerds let's go to wine nerds Okay Now we got this story that's been floating around. I get the biggest kick out of this, because I thought at first it was they may be on to something but then I realized this is nothing but a marketing scam. The name here is Replica as in replicas of famous wines made to taste the same but easier on the wallet. Ari Walker is the CEO of Integrated Beverage Group maker of replica wines What would the replica version of $50 wine cost? $20 Wouldn't I know it when i taste it? No, you wouldn't know when you taste it. Traditional winemaking begins with the grapes but replica begins in this Denver laboratory here famous name wines they want to replicate are analyzed down two parts per billion overseen by Sean Callan director of operations and quality there a lot chemicals in wine and they can tell us a lot of different things these chemicals tell us things like what

2:47:17 Well, things like... Aroma. Taste. Yeah both taste and aroma so these chemicals your brain will tell you smell a certain way or they taste a certain way and we're able to map it out and say this wine is this buttery this oaky has notes of green apples in it has a certain amount of dryness to it the heat from the amount of alcohol. Kellen and his team create a chemical map of the distinctive flavors and aromas then Replica mixes its grapes to match the analysis Now before you deconstruct this, a lot of people may not know that you are an accomplished wine connoisseur. You have been a judge in wine contests. You have been a collector for as long as I've... what? Paid judge. Paid judge! Not just some schmuck

2:48:02 Yeah, I respect you. Not only I but many people when we're out and about will sometimes take a picture of the wine menu say John here we are what do i drink? And you and your very generous person when it comes to that You will always help someone find or pick the white rind at White Ryan's always under $100 otherwise they rip off for sure! You know what you're talking about go ahead yeah continue That's the end of the clip so I'm... That was the end of the clip?! Ah, great. I've been going through all this trouble getting this clip. Okay so let me finish the clip for you So they go with a guy doing the reports and he says let me taste some wines And they show a lot of B-roll where they show a bottle like Richebourg or Eschezzo Or one of these two three hundred dollar bottles of Pinot from Burgundy

2:48:52 And then they show the wines that they're replicating. I don't know why they showed these other bottles, but the wines they're replicating are like this pretty run-of-the-mill cheap kind of house wines that you'd get in a bar someplace...a good bar but not like Mio My or Miomi as some people call it, Pino from the Caymus people and things like those, well they're not that special And so the guy doing the reports and tasting with this expert, he says oh I can't. Oh you're right the other one's better it's better! Then they follow up with a guy saying well i'm not going to end the report there. I'm gonna take these wines and their replicas and do a blind tasting with my neighbors. So at the end of the report all but not one neighbor thought any of the replicas, with exception maybe one white wine was any good at all?

2:49:41 So this was a story that was obviously used to promote some brand of wine, so they've been messing with. This is not even what they're trying to do I'll put it mildly it's not possible in a million years great wine is a witch's brew of weirdness based on the number of yeasts involved and they're all spitting out their own little version of alcohol which all tastes different And anyone who's ever been to, when you do a lot of tasting if you go to a beverage tasting and it's remarkable but if you line up 10 vodkas they all taste different. You'd think vodka is vodka but no! Vodkas are extremely different tasting from one to the other that's why people like one or the other. By the way the Kirkland French imported vodka is Grey Goose

2:50:35 So they say I think it tastes slightly different, but it's good Anyway to get back to it. This is not possible in a million years Not possible as that won't happen at anybody listening into this podcast lifetime. I don't think it'll ever be happened Perfect way to end the show. I mean do you get a scala of information? During these three hours that we're together twice a week. I think so and If it was of any value to you, let us know. Go to Dvorak dot org slash NA Thank you all very much for participating again today! Thank You Troll Room! Thank you Back Arfus We have on the stream NoAgendaStream.com coming up we have Who Are These Podcasts?

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Final Sign-off and "Pooping in the Streets" Mix

The show concludes with a sign-off from Austin and Silicon Valley, directing listeners to the next episode on Thursday. The final segment features a parody song about the homelessness and sanitation crisis in San Francisco, titled "Pooping in the Streets," set to the tune of "Dancing in the Street."

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2:51:25 which is a fun show to listen to. Deconstructing Podcasts on the stream, noagendastream.com and coming to you from downtown Austin Texas Capitol the Drone Star State FEMA Region 6 on the governmental maps in the 5x9 Cluedio in the common law condo In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where... You know we haven't seen this sun for the last week I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Thursday right here on NO Agenda. Remember us at dvorak dot org slash NA and until then, adios mofos!

2:52:15 Here's the story of a bunch of snowflakes Who were trippin' on some other people's rights All of them left at home with their mother They wanted to start fights Here's the story of a bunch of baddies His addiction was to outrage all the time They got so whipped up into a frenzy Thought they'd commit some crimes And then one day, they went to a Tinder rally And everyone who disagreed was punched. And this group, thankfully got arrested Now we get to laugh at them the snowflake bunch The snowflake bunch The snowflake bunch Now we get to laugh at them the snowflake bunch

2:53:14 largest seizure of private property in human history. Well, I think the rush is that the president wants somebody on the court who will protect his opponent Now we can call a spade a spade. A stratospheric aerosol injection or SAI Answer the question! Call the prophet. Question the US government Get to stakeholders' actions That is how the CIA runs Get out! That's great, Frank. You question how much are you paid for your ALTRA missions? People say I hear ALTRA music. What?! In the statistics area... Get out! I have no pay for your ALTRA. One of somebody on the court who will protect his opponent. I have no pay for your ALTRA quest. I'm not a statistician. Get out! Because it's profitable. It is!

2:54:13 I was starting to dream, why am i not doing half my hair? I'm not talking about relationship with the dog. He actually was first got married to a she brought with her a poodle. It involved my security clearance. I'm gonna do it.

2:54:56 Lightweights. What do you mean, lightweights? Oh no, San Francisco's got them! They've got RVs they've got trailers they got people living in their cars they got people on the streets and they live in tents or shooting up it's unbelievable hundreds of thousands of homeless eating from garbage cans in America whoo and pooping on the streets in san francisco and then there's nothing better when you're pooping on the street around the world away put your feet Summer's here and the smell is drivin' in the streets Here in San Francisco Drop one at New Orleans, then New York shitter All you need is a month for homeless Junkies everywhere There'll be crazies cryin', and peasies flyin' Movin' in that street

2:56:02 It doesn't matter if you're there Just as long as you don't care Come on everybody, take a dump Blame it all on Plastron Yeah we're poopin', pooping in the streets We're pooping in the streets How did anyone know that the bag of poop On San Francisco Street, how did anyone know that it was 20 pounds? It's like 20 pounds of human waste! Like how did anyone pay for this? You walk down the street and say what is that Bill? Oh it looks like a bag of poop. Hold on a second I've got a postal scale with me. The best podcast in the universe!

2:57:02 Wait a minute, roast beef for sale. Marriages for the lemonade is all we will get