Episode 1058 · Thursday, 9 August 2018

Colorism

Silicon Valley giants coordinate a massive purge of independent media while New York politicians move to abolish ICE and freeze ride-sharing licenses.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 56m listen | 35 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 1058

About this episode

Apple, Facebook, Google, and Spotify initiated a coordinated removal of Infowars and Alex Jones from their platforms, citing community standards violations. The purge began at 3:00 a.m. Pacific Time when Apple pulled the Infowars catalog from iTunes, triggering a domino effect across the tech industry. While late-night host Stephen Colbert mocked the deplatforming with a Tuck Buckford skit, the Infowars mobile app surged to the top of the App Store charts as audiences sought independent access.

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey defended his refusal to ban Jones during an interview with Sean Hannity, citing a lack of specific rule violations while acknowledging the limitations of AI in filtering hate speech. Meanwhile, the Anti-Defamation League and UC Berkeley announced the Online Hate Index to automate content blacklisting. Senator Mark Warner drafted a policy paper proposing mandatory identity verification for social media users, as the group People for the American Way pressured Silicon Valley to expand censorship. In the courts, Rick Gates testified against Paul Manafort, admitting to embezzling funds and maintaining a secret life in London, while Congressman Chris Collins faced indictment for insider trading involving Innate Immunotherapeutics.

John C. Dvorak shares his recent success with high-end hearing aids, finally ending neighbor complaints about his television volume. The episode features a breakdown of MTV Decoded's attempt to redefine racism versus colorism and a critique of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s claims regarding the Supreme Court's ruling on insurance premiums. Adam Curry also recounts an interview request from the Austin American-Statesman following the recent wave of digital censorship.


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CHAPTER 01 / 35 Discussion

Alex Jones Deplatforming and Stephen Colbert Satire

Apple, Facebook, Google, and Spotify removed Infowars content and Alex Jones from their platforms, citing violations of community standards and hate speech. Late-night host Stephen Colbert mocked the situation with a "Tuck Buckford" skit, while Jones appealed to his audience for financial support. The ban reportedly stemmed from Jones's comments regarding Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

alex jones· infowars· stephen colbert· apple· facebook· spotify· hate speech

00:00 Is it false flag season again? Ducking the Purge and broadcasting live from the capital of the drawing star state here in downtown Austin, Tehasin, The Cluedio. In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon... Oh wait a minute, I'm up at the Northern Northern Silicon Valley, the Pacific Northwest. I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Yes big celebrations everything happening in the PNWs

00:39 Nice. Well, happy anniversary John! It's crowded What? Crowded in the house? No it's... well that too but no it's everybody who used to go to San Francisco on vacation they've all come up to Seattle Oh do they have better homeless people look out there or...? Well they're not so much... They haven't started the pooping thing I guess I'm not sure The pooping thing Hey man congratulations to you and Mimi Yeah, well you're welcome. Yes 30 years and they never had a fight it's amazing Never never that's weird It's just like that spam thing never had to fight yeah Hey I don't get spam yes So what did so what did you do? Did you guys go out to dinner? Do you make dinner with I made a big dinner for Pretty much everybody JC and Jesse in the baby and oh every bad kids my goodness

01:36 And now did the kids give you guys a gift for your anniversary or no probably not. No, I think of course not Why would even think that well? Well i think it's something to be beholden John 30 years into as you feel that way in today's society Yeah, I think so very good very good Oh actually we were on a TV show get around of applause from the audience yes They always put I've been married for 15 years Yes, indeed. Kind of like how everybody was cheering and clapping on the Colbert show for the Alex Jones purge Did you see that? No! Oh my goodness It's long because he has a skit in there which we can stop whenever we want because the skit fell flat He was doing his Seedman skit but here is the opening A lot of his skits are falling flat

02:34 Yeah, this although his Jones voice I think is pretty good. Not very good but it's pretty good and the cadence just as he's done it before and we I think we noted that was good before It's good but did the audience didn't think it was funny or did they cheer as much about the actual news itself? There was some bad news recently for extreme right-wing conspiracy theorist and bath salt spokesmodel Alex Jones. Because it looks like his website Infowars just lost their war on info. Yesterday, Apple Google Facebook and Spotify all erased most of the posts

03:18 and videos on their services from Alex Jones. Oh yeah! They're gone. They're out of there So now if you want to see one of Jones's signature rants You'll have to be in the next booth at Ruby Tuesdays when he sees a mother breastfeeding Fun side note Pinterest also took down their Infowars page Which is bad news if you were planning an autumn wedding with the theme gay frog chemtrails Okay, why did this happen now? Alex Jones has been spreading vile conspiracy theories that hurt real people for years. Well, Jones earned this latest scrutiny when he addressed Russia investigation special counsel Robert Mueller on his show imitated firing gun and said you're going to get it or I'm gonna die trying so that apparently is the hate speech part that he got banned for because i can't find any other example certainly not in news reports

04:17 Of the actual hate speech that he propagated, but I guess that's it which you know. It's not very nice That's for sure okay. That is awful Actually pretty close to my message to Muller You're gonna get him or I'm gonna die crying Without the exposure He normally gets from social media Jones is making an appeal directly to his viewers these are evil wicked sociopaths no you have a soul and So they try to punch your buttons all day, but don't forget the financial support. Feed your gladiator! He's not the only one losing. I love the fleet... feed your gladiators is a great term so now Colbert is gonna go I'll just play it like 30 seconds because it goes on for four minutes and it's just it's not funny. His platforms there's a similar struggle happening for my colleague conspiracy radio broadcaster Tuck Buckford The host of Brain Fight take a look

05:12 Which is why Hotel Transylvania 3 was a false flag by the Canadian Yakuza, The Yamusa to bottle the laughter of children and use it as a disinfectant to sell the deep state Illuminati with yeast infections. Okay that was it. Alright listen up Brain Fight Nation, The Brain Fighters, The Brain Nation, The Skull Meat... So that goes on and on but people are very happy The scourge has been trounced. Well, he's milking it... the way I see it he is milking it. Well let's just go back before we get to him. I'll bet you that he is making more money now than before. Oh no doubt but lets just look at what happened because what's interesting to me is two things Apple of all companies took

CHAPTER 02 / 35 Discussion

Apple Role in Tech Industry Collusion Against Infowars

Apple reportedly initiated the coordinated removal of Alex Jones by pulling his shows from the iTunes podcast platform at approximately 3:00 a.m. Pacific Time. Other tech companies followed in a "domino effect," leading to accusations of industry collusion and election meddling. Despite the ban, the Infowars mobile app surged to the top of the App Store charts.

apple· tim cook· eddie cue· tech collusion· podcasts· silicon valley· censorship

06:10 Infowars, I think almost every show off of their podcast platform in iTunes and on the podcast app. And after that they all just kind of went like dominoes with Facebook with YouTube with Discus even. Oh is it Apple that started it? Yeah at 3 a.m apparently there was a meeting with Eddie Q and Tom Collins Tim Cook And that's when it was decided, actually it was before 3am Pacific. It was like... I think it was probably midnight or 1 am. According to reports, I don't know anything for sure They decide okay we're taking them off and then everybody went along with it. Pinterest MailChimp Discus Everyone except Twitter So there are two things that are curious to me

07:01 One why did Twitter not participate and we can explore that in a moment, but Apple see Apple I have no problem understanding Why companies that have advertisers want him off their platform? Makes total sense. It's not ad friendly brand friendly. I think is what it's called Brand friendly so you know its understandable but Apple doesn't make any money from advertising I mean they have some they have their ads and I've been there in their app store something they have some ads but not Not with podcasting unless they're thinking of doing that possibly That could be one reason that they decided, but why? What you know all the they could have because now you can't get him on the app and The podcasting app according to our statistics is still one of the most used apps with Outcasts being a close number two But not that close we're closer than the rest

07:59 So you can't even find his shows in the app, whereas they could have easily just taken him off. Not promote him... I don't know if they were promoting him at this point? That was curious to me! Well they could've ignored the whole thing. Easily! He's always been pretty much just the same guy doing the same material This all started if you go back with right-wing watch This is run by a guy named Jared Holt and he is the one that petitioned all these companies kind of like a media matters Type outfit with some very specific differences Media Matters who go after advertisers they were initially funded by the Clintons and Right-wing watch is not a group by itself. It is a project of

08:56 The People for the American Way, and this is a very interesting group. We know about them... we've talked about them before! We have. I don't know what we said but I do remember that name does definitely ring a bell it's something to talk about yeah well just consulting the book of knowledge gives you enough right there but it was founded The People for the American way was founded by our friend Norman Lear So right away you understand this has something to do with media because Norman Lear has the Hollywood Foundation where they write scripts for all of your favorite TV shows that include social justice messaging among others. Former presidents of the people for The American Way include Tony Podesta, gee

09:44 That's kind of coincidental. But that kind of like drops, that kind of air out of the room? Yeah now let's look at the board of directors because that's probably even better so Norman Lear is the founding chair we've got Alec Baldwin in here Jane Lynch Seth MacFarlane, this is Hollywood. This is Hollywood all the way and there's a lot of people Kathleen Turner I don't know how much these people matter anymore But this is a Hollywood organization. I look at their 990 they got about six million bucks So they're they're well funded to go after Go after people it still doesn't really explain why? Why Apple decided to do this?

10:30 Moreover, because they allowed the as did Google everyone allowed the app to be in the App Store which pretty much gives you the exact same Content and so many people went to get the app that shot two number one everywhere So yeah It's it's of course it's being milked and I'm sure he's doing better than ever but why why would Apple do this under some? And I don't think they even released a statement other than well. It doesn't fit with What was the exact terms? Community standards. Yeah, something along those ways yeah But really I beyond it's baffling to me and then to have Twitter not Bounce Jones off of the platform Which is you know this is gonna be the holdout It's gonna be interesting to see as Jack Dorsey fights the social justice warriors of the world

CHAPTER 03 / 35 Discussion

Jack Dorsey and Twitter Stance on Content Moderation

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey defended his decision not to ban Alex Jones during an interview with Sean Hannity, stating that Jones had not yet violated Twitter's specific rules. Dorsey discussed the complexities of ranking timelines, the impossibility of using AI to perfectly filter hate speech, and the necessity of human review for cultural context. He also addressed concerns regarding "shadow banning" and algorithmic transparency.

jack dorsey· twitter· sean hannity· shadow banning· algorithms· free speech· content moderation

11:24 Why did he not do it other than business commentary saying that these can never violated our rules? Why should we kick him off Right, but he's not fact. He said specifically that if he does violate our rules We'll kick him off But did he hasn't done that well, but he's not following the Silicon Valley virtue signaling I Really yes this exactly what's going on and just to make a more you go ahead No, I was just saying. I'm still kind of...I didn't know...I don't know why I didn't know this but I didn't know Apple triggered the whole mechanism and everyone follows along. Cascading. Yeah cascading. Pathetic. Well Dorsey did one interview as far as i know and it was with Sean Hannity on his radio show so Jack Dorsey not going along with the Silicon Valley virtue signaling of Hollywood

12:15 pressure groups and appearing on Sean Hannity's show is very interesting. Here, just two quick clips there wasn't all that much here he is about Oh, talking about shadow banning timelines etc. We do rank search we do rank trends and we do rank conversations accordingly that does not affect one's timeline if you follow someone on Twitter You're going to see them in your timeline now. We do Rank the time line for relevance So it might take some scrolling to see everything but you can also turn that ranking off in the settings so you can See everything in recency order

12:54 I didn't know that. So apparently you can turn off their algo. Where? I don't know, he says there's a setting for it so you can say just give it to me in reverse chronological order. I've been going over my settings for various things recently. I've never seen that he says it's there I have not looked has only got this this morning But he does bring up, I think something fair again. I'm astounded by this If we're going to start policing platforms you know the big promise has been and when this is and also I think anyone who listens to our show has understood the lie of artificial intelligence being able to

13:32 ferret out hate speech and grab it and identify it, block it and get rid of it. And all we really see is outfits like Facebook hiring thousands of people who now will be the arbiters of truth or hate speech versus regular free speech And Dorsey admits as much. What about, and I think this might be something everybody agrees on let's start with people that are calling for some type of violence of any kind or threatening violence against an individual? I think that would probably be an easy we're not going to allow that right

14:09 Yes, that is much easier. Any sort of violent speech encouragement towards violence harassment is directly against our terms of service and we take immediate action on it What if somebody now gets more nuanced? I wish somebody would just punch Hannity in the face what do you do then well we have to in in all these considerations not to get a specifics we have to take the context that uh... really understand what the context of conversation as a missus extremely hard for an hour and do and and certainly hard for per humans to do so we make sure that all our folks understand the cultural contact with something except because some cultural contacts allow person speech but unable to teach that other couple cultural contexts don't so

14:51 as we review cases of reports or blocks from its we have to make sure that work taking into consideration the context and then acting acting appropriately in doing so with with warnings with notices with uh... a temporary lock of the account until that's we did reviewed or or deleted an ideally giving them be exact reasons why It violates and you have enough people that would be able to monitor and handle that that you won't miss threats will certainly miss things. Oh, yeah There's no way if you look at just look at what Twitter has three four hundred million people But if you look at face bag with its reported two billion people sure Even if it's a even if it's a billion screw it half a million Do you know how many posts? That is per day that AI has to go and look at the see if it's hate speech within context

CHAPTER 04 / 35 Discussion

ADL and UC Berkeley Online Hate Index Development

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and UC Berkeley's D-Lab are collaborating on the "Online Hate Index," a tool designed to help tech platforms identify hate speech using machine learning. Researchers claim the model currently identifies hateful content with 78% to 85% accuracy. Critics argue this system creates a centralized clearinghouse for blacklisting and censorship.

anti-defamation league· adl· uc berkeley· online hate index· artificial intelligence· machine learning· social science

15:42 A hundred million, at least. There's no way they will go out of business if they go down this path It- it's not sustainable However In elitist circles such as the Anti-Defamation League and USC, the Center for Technology in Society. They're way ahead of the game! ADL and University of California at Berkeley's D lab have been working to develop a new approach to tackle online hate using the latest methods The goal of the Online Hate Index is to help tech platforms better understand the growing amount of hate on social media And use that information to address the problem

16:21 By combining artificial intelligence and machine learning with social science, the online hate index will ultimately uncover and identify trends and patterns in hate speech across different platforms. We've just completed our first phase of research and we found that the machine learning model identified hate speech accurately between 78%-85% of time In the next phase of our project specific targeted populations in a more detailed manner. We'll examine content on multiple social media sites and we'll identify strategies to deploy the model more broadly while there's still a long way to go with artificial intelligence and machine learning based solutions, we believe the online hate index will help tech companies better understand the extent of hateful content on their platforms by creating community-based definitions. Bullshit! What is the point of that music?

17:16 Well, it's a promo reel for how great they are and makes you feel good and makes you feel safe in a warm bath that ADL & USC are on the case with AI and machine learning. Nothing to worry about citizen! I think they're trying to become a clearinghouse for hate speech detection Well, that's what they're claiming. Well that just brings me to the column I wrote for PC Magazine bitching about this sort of thing because what you're talking about is eventual... The eventuality of more not less there's already a bunch of them more blacklists the blacklists are used by ISPs and everybody else and the next thing you know You can't get any you bluh... I taught tell the story about how my blog

CHAPTER 05 / 35 Discussion

Social Media Regulation Proposals and Senator Mark Warner

Senator Mark Warner drafted a policy paper proposing new regulations for social media firms, including mandatory identity verification and bot labeling. The proposal suggests defining popular technology platforms as "essential facilities" to subject them to government oversight. These moves are viewed by some as an attempt to regulate political speech ahead of the 2018 midterm elections.

mark warner· social media regulation· bot labeling· identity verification· essential facilities· midterms

18:03 It was blacklisted left and right because the name of the blog initially on the title line at the top, was Dvorak Uncensored. So uncensored? The Algos picked up uncensored like uh-oh that can't be good! And so once I changed it to Dvorak News Blog, even though the big title on the page says Dvorak Uncensored but it says Dvorak News Blog in the title line and HTML code. That all went away. So this is kind of thing we have to deal with that's ridiculous. It also not going to work. No its not gonna work? If anything thats maybe what Jack Dorsey sees as you can't AI this away

18:48 And he's probably having enough problems as is just for you know, just all the reporting. I mean, I don't see how they can survive this! I think this is really bad for the social networks because they're being pushed into a corner... There's already legislation by the way in The Works that just got this in this morning from what's-his-jamoke name Warner? Yeah, where is it dork? Yes. So this is the potential policy proposals for regulation of social media and technology firms draft policy paper And here's some highlights that I found Maybe Apple is just getting ahead of it could be

19:33 But what they're asking for is... really has nothing to do with hate speech. It's just pure regulation, mandatory location verification Mandatory identity verification Bot labeling A bot needs to be labeled and define popular technology as essential facilities There it is. Essential facilities, they want to regulate! They've been wanting to regulate We're moving or coming up on the midterm elections we want to silence people and this is a great way to do it but its not like just the elections I think mainstream media and politicians have wanted to shut down at least regulate anything they can on the internet for decades

20:26 They're trying to take advantage of it. I don't know if this will ever work or if they'll ever get it passed But that's certainly what would seem to be certainly what seems to be in the in the running? I'm still just he's definitely virtue signaling with it there who is a Disa Democrat. He's trying Of course she is yes, of course she is Stop these Republicans got an NPR report here Also about oh, yeah. Here it is Jones says that he is the victim of censorship So I guess the question is does he have a point or maybe more importantly will his supporters think? He has a point and what will that mean well They certainly will and they're already rushing to embrace that you know I mean Mark Zuckerberg the founder of Facebook tied himself in knots about The importance of being a free speech platform at Facebook saying he would even defend Holocaust deniers rights to spread essentially lies and calumnies

21:21 And yet Facebook essentially took this action too once Apple had taken axe. You know, there's been real pressure from both journalists, from a lawsuit from the parents of us... Journalists? Journalists really are journalist pressuring for Alex Jones to be gone is that who's behind this? Well I think what they refer to is that operation you named as something to do with journalists maybe, I mean maybe Norman Lear is seen as a journalist because he's the publisher. Iffy, iffiest best. That's just a broad brush yeah

CHAPTER 06 / 35 Discussion

Hollywood Influence and People for the American Way

The group "People for the American Way," founded by television producer Norman Lear, is identified as a primary driver behind the pressure on tech companies to deplatform conservative voices. The organization's board includes Hollywood figures like Alec Baldwin and Seth MacFarlane. Right Wing Watch, a project of this group, reportedly petitioned Apple and others to remove Infowars.

norman lear· people for the american way· hollywood· tony podesta· alec baldwin· right wing watch

22:00 Let me see what else I had. I don't think any journalists care that much and most journalists should do, although I'm not seeing any evidence of this because journalists should for example be all for the Julian Assange situation they used to be there used to be yeah early days until he turned what looks like a Republican whoops I'm still baffled by Apple. I really am, I do not understand could this have been some pressure from on high? From the people in this group. I mean did Tom Collins get calls from Alec Baldwin and Norman Lear and something like that. Like hey man, we're gonna cut you off you're a bad gay something like that there must have been something

22:47 Oh no, be like you know you're with us. You pretty much side with us politically and we got to... There's a lot of action going on in Hollywood We've all gotta be together on this thing because this guy... We gotta midterms coming up Uhh..we gotta get more Democrats in. You can help us out if you just kill the Jones podcast At least for now. Make big fuss after November and put it back up What do you think Steve Jobs would have done if he, whatever happened in the midnight meeting or whatever? Do you think he would've said yeah take him off completely? No. I can see him saying we decided not to promote him

23:27 But we feel at Apple free speech is very important and hate speech is also free speech although I Steve Jobs don't like it We're not we won't promote him, but we will not cut him off. I think that's where he would have gone I hope probably Sounds more like kind of a libertarian in some level yeah Yeah, buddy was a big tea. He was also a big-time Democrat used to have Clinton over the house yeah barefoot But he'd probably be less susceptible to that pressure. So it's a I wish I could say more on with the things we've moved discussed everything a million times You know hate speech is still free speech The other is no there's no laws against hate speech and I did find out was the deafened just put a couple definitions in the Because the eye wasn't the Oxford dick. I was looking for Oxford dictionary definition They don't have one of course not

24:24 U.S. legal hate speech is a communication that carries no meaning other than the expression of hatred for some group, especially in circumstances in which the communication is likely to provoke violence." It is an incitement to hatred primarily against a group of persons defined in terms of race, ethnicity national origin gender sexual orientation religion and the like. Hate speech can be any form of expression regarded as offensive to racial ethnic religious groups and other hate discrete minorities or to women but the thing that's interesting is hate speech is used but not a single example is given

25:03 Certainly not of Alex Jones Conspiracy theories. Yeah, but hate speech I haven't seen it well That's a good point this again the point I've made that last show which is that if you're going to cite a specific reason you have to cite examples yeah none of that all of us dog, you know Sandy Hook Horrible. Yeah, you couldn't deem him horrible whatever you want now Of course The issue is They come for Jones and then eventually they'll come for other people that whoever they don't like. And I think the next thing you brought up the basics, which is the Apple started in these other guys fell in line rather quickly within 12 hours. I think the whole thing was I think this kids were greased

25:49 this group that you're talking about. Yes, right. The Normandiere Group probably went to the other groups and said you know we hear Apple's going to do this would you do this? Would you ban this joker? Yeah so they just needed Apple to fall down right yeah if somebody like Apple... We understand Apple is gonna do it they're gonna pull them out You're gonna have to do that too because you're gonna look foolish if you don't. It sure seemed like everybody had their press releases good-to-go didn't it I mean yeah was too quick It was pretty quick. You're right down to MailChimp and just everybody. Yeah, bang-bang-bang-bang-bang and then MailChimp that MailChimp what is he doing? He sends out a newsletter yeah but you know I'm sure MailChimp has got some fascist newsletter producers well if you remember they took off Stormfront who was really the first one to go Stormfront got banned do you remember this yeah so they got kicked off of MailChimp I understand MailChimp you know it's their identifiable on their emails

26:47 You know it shows up somewhere you see they just don't want to be associated with I can understand all of that. I really can and It's fine by me, you know I've always said you got a decentralized if you base your business on YouTube whether you're a creator and pissed off about being demonetized or if you getting kicked off altogether get bully boohoo and Like, yeah. That's the reason we have our own infrastructure. We don't use these outlets. But I will say that with the podcast... Was he kicked off a pod bean? That's what i like to know! You know that's another good question. I don't think he uses Podbean actually. I think he has his own infrastructure

CHAPTER 07 / 35 Discussion

Financial Deplatforming and Payment Processor Risks

Concerns are rising that the deplatforming trend will extend to payment processors and banks, similar to the financial blockade previously faced by Wikileaks. Reports indicate that some banks already deny services to certain legal industries, such as adult performers. Critics suggest that cutting off financial infrastructure is the next step in silencing controversial figures.

paypal· wikileaks· payment processors· censorship· financial deplatforming· buzzfeed

27:28 But if we got kicked off and it could easily happen, we've talked about Sandy Hook and you know We've had all kinds of thoughts certainly me. You know but I don't think were important enough Well there's that note so I was reading some tweets in Jen Briney was all over the ring over this thing She she could go next Well, thanks, oh she has she has the right thinking because yeah if one goes who's next What I'm a little more wary of is, you know, is it just going to be the social networks? I mean already see you know. Of course was it BuzzFeed like they tried to investigate his boner pills and all of this vitality stuff and I guess to see if there's anything dangerous in them and what they did come up with as well It's pretty much off-the-shelf vitamins that you're paying twice the price for okay

28:24 So they kind of tried that angle, he's selling something dangerous. But payment processors will be next and we saw this with Wikileaks and you know we know who is behind PayPal We know who runs the show there And it's been done before, so why wouldn't they go after that? Banks won't give webcam girls bank accounts. I mean a lot of this has been taking place quietly and now this is just the much bigger target but i see this going quite far It could although i don't think it will Because well there's no right because i don't think this is much more than a short-term

29:10 kind of a trick to get people to vote Democrat this November. Once this primary is over, all this stuff just fades away. You don't start killing your customers! I mean come on... I think it's gone too far. I mean certainly with face bag that they've paint again They painted themselves in the record where there is this they've painted themselves into a absolute complete corner You know by all touting all this AI crap and now they have to show it if that means you have to hire people This is priceless problematic

CHAPTER 08 / 35 Discussion

Paul Joseph Watson on Big Tech Collusion

Infowars contributor Paul Joseph Watson characterized the coordinated ban as "cultural imperialism" and a global antitrust problem. He argued that the 12-hour window in which all major platforms acted constitutes collusion intended to influence the upcoming elections. Alex Jones echoed these sentiments, claiming the move was a response to his role in the 2016 election.

paul joseph watson· infowars· big tech· election meddling· antitrust· censorship

29:49 It's thousands, tens of thousands of people you'll need to do this in all these countries. I mean, of course they already have some practice we know that Apple and Facebook and Google are all sucking off China will do whatever they want and change their indexes and block searches so they have good practice in it So just flipping a couple switches They know how to do it but I don't know. I'm glad we have noagendasocial.com We-we have... Yeah, that thing's kicking butt! And Alex, Alex Jones, Alex Jones, Alex Jones, Alex Jones, Alex Jones Let's listen to a couple of clips like we normally run these clips Wait you're not hearing this? Yeah it was very good Oh come on Well I thought it was almost over Well it wasn't until he started talking over It's okay got a long version at the end of the show

30:46 I got two clips, one is the Alex Jones himself and the other one's an InfoWars clip where they're one of the guys that British kid is going off on it. Let's play InfoWar MP3. With a red button saying quote live, top tweet links to an InfoWars story with the headline Imam, I warned de Blasio about New York City terror he was too busy bashing Trump I just saw this. You were at USA Today? At lunch, I did and yeah, and also saw the system corrected As WikiLeaks tweeted This is a global antitrust problem This is cultural imperialism So no it's not just a private company This is a handful of far left hysterics in San Francisco framing legitimate criticism of mass immigration and Islam as hate

31:40 speech. This is language policing, this is political censorship. They know InfoWars played a key role in electing Trump. This is punishment for that and this all happened three months before the midterms. This is election meddling! This is a lie. They all banned InfoWars within the same 12-hour period. That's big tech collusion." Yeah Paul Joseph Watson Yeah, I think there's something to be said for election meddling. He made two interesting points one i think election meddling is in play and I think that's illegal uh...I'm pretty sure and the other thing as he said you can you know Infowars helped elect Trump

32:25 You know, was he even for Trump when this thing began? Oh yeah. In fact he's out there now claiming that Trump never would have gotten all of this traction on Facebook if it wasn't for Infowars and I think he has an argument to make there. Yeah alright. Now he goes on... This is another short clip. This is Alex Jones himself complaining about the and then teasing he's also teasing all the way these guys very talented at what he does. Rand Paul can be beaten for the Senate race look at what his neighbor did it's everywhere if I try to list it all, it'd take an hour they're trying to bully us into submission

33:06 So now more than ever with them all over the news saying deplatform us and lying about what we stand for and filing all these frivolous fake lawsuits that were getting thrown out This is the critical battle. Getting Trump in was just a beachhead Now the real fight for liberty begins, We're entering the season of false flags Is it false flag season again? I always miss it He goes on and on about the false flag season coming up. I had everything all good to go, I forgot the season had started. Hey you know if this happened to us we'd be doing exactly the same. We would be like feed your gladiators! Yeah yeah it's not gonna happen to us. All we're doing is two guys doing news deconstruction. Oh there's a lot of social justice warrior hate out there about us though

CHAPTER 09 / 35 Discussion

No Agenda Social and Independent Infrastructure

The hosts emphasize the importance of independent infrastructure, such as noagendasocial.com, to avoid the risks of centralized platform censorship. They argue that while being removed from social networks might "dent" their reach, owning domain names and private servers provides a necessary safeguard against the "Heckler's Veto" and corporate deplatforming.

no agenda social· mastodon· independent media· decentralization· federal election commission· censorship

33:58 Well, on what the reddit thing? No but yeah people on Twitter and there's a core group. I don't see it so much There is a core group But they have about 10 guys They can do anything all they do is try and tell people that they're stupid for donating to the show well that doesn't go over very well like okay fine whatever if people want to donate they will if they don't they don't but their arguments are not very convincing which is the same We're Trump butt kissers. That's the whole argument. Well, the whole argument falls flat because you're a guy who kind of semi reluctantly by accident it kind of was one of the celebrities mentioned

34:45 as a Trump supporter, even though you weren't fully. I said he could win and it would be great for the show if he did! Yeah well it was... kinda but nobody's acknowledged this and you even had on the Michael Flynn side of things yeah my invitation to the inauguration kind of evaporated after Michael Flynn got in trouble I never heard from anybody again No, no. So what are you gonna do now? so to me the most interesting thing of this whole spectacle remains why Apple and The closest I can get is the the people for the American way and and the influence they have and for whatever reason Close to billionaire Tim Cook buckled And I think it goes against apples. I mean how can you have a

35:39 these here's for the thinkers, here is for the crazy ones. How can you have that ad if you're kicking people off your platforms? You can't. Exactly It's gonna hurt the company Yeah well I don't know how badly but I don't think this is... That just a cumulative thing and eventually they are going to start misstepping over time and it builds up next thing you know there The good news is, is that Facebook and Twitter and all these social networks and all these platforms They're not the internet. The internet is always there Do you get the internet? You know, you use the internet to get our show but you're getting it from our servers run by our crack team of course Void Zeroes for Bemrose And a cast of thousands

36:31 You our web pages. Yeah, I guess we could get kicked off of AWS but we can you know We own the domain names we put it on a server real quick It's just for convenience really for the show notes and everything else do as long as you have a connection You can still get to us I don't think any of the social nets help us tremendously. It's great for announcing a new show is up, but you know yeah That's it it would definitely dent us But I mean this is up to the people themselves You like being on these social networks that you get what you sign up for And if you don't like it, go away. I'm not as emotional about it but what people are emotional about is that this is silencing they feel important voices potentially more than just one with an election coming up and I see that and I can understand where the meddling complaint comes from

37:32 Well, I think the FEC should be in here. Good luck with bitch to them the Federal Election Commission No one's gonna stand up for this no well now well since you brought up AI There's a report that came out on CBS. CBS has this tech reporter, I don't even know... He just rambles it's very funny guy he was on uh he's at Black Hat That's his Twitter handle? At black hat No that's where he is Oh okay! He's at Black Hat alright Yeah i think its going on right now at Defcon

CHAPTER 10 / 35 Discussion

CBS News Report on AI Malware and Infrastructure Hacks

A CBS News report from the Black Hat and DEFCON security conferences detailed theoretical threats where AI-driven malware uses facial recognition to trigger data wipes on specific targets. The report also suggested that hackers could target critical infrastructure, such as water dams, to create distractions on election days. The hosts dismissed these scenarios as sensationalist "cock and bull stories."

cbs news· black hat· defcon· malware· facial recognition· infrastructure· election hacking

38:10 So I want to play a couple clips that are kind of, they're little long but they're the kind of thing i think is being fed to the public as uh... They're on AI. This is AI. I wrote it titled A Clip Of The Day although I'm not expecting to get that But to me, it's kind of in this is the part one. So artificial intelligence is being used in a number of very creative ways. One research group showed us a technique of hiding malware inside typical applications when I say an application they may

38:46 I mean, Microsoft Outlook. Maybe it's your productivity application. Maybe it's a video voice calling application and it hides in there using AI to fend off typical virus. Wait a minute! There's AI in Microsoft Outlook? Well, you better tell me where the feeding hole is because... No no he's what he's saying and by the way this is nothing new. He's saying that there's malware that's inserted which is a contaminant. Oh I misunderstood okay It's contaminated these some I don't know how you get it in there but somehow you get a contaminated word uh yeah macro going on for decades. A macro And so you contaminate some known product

39:30 And this one, but this new version of this contamination has got AI somehow. Now true AI requires massive amounts of code so you're not going to sneak some Trojan or some sort of malware into like anything without it bloating if it's got AI or supposed AI, which I don't even think works anyway. But okay let's just listen to what he's got to say here. Waste calling application and it hides in there using AI to fend off typical virus scanners but its activated using facial recognition technology so you might sit in front of a computer and nothing happens but when I the target sits in front of the computer

40:19 have a wiped computer. Now if you think about all of the grassroots or local political organizations that are out making sure that their candidates are heard and that their voices are heard, those organizations don't have a lot of time or money and being able to target individuals by your face and wipe out computers could demolish a local campaign. ♪ The Al Gore, The Al Gore Oh yeah, the algo! Yeah they can... yes that's it happened to me the other day my computer went oh it's Adam let's wipe his computer. Sure I know this is so far-fetched and ludicrous but he goes on now he gets I mean he's jumped already from AI smart viruses to somehow facial recognition systems

41:13 that keep a photo or group of photos, or at least the specs for your face so when it sees your face and says now I can wipe the computer. Why couldn't it just wipe the computer anyway before you got to it? If its a computer thats a target why wait for you? There's a question that comes to mind is... Because it makes for a better story on CBS What are you waiting for to wipe the computer what if you never show up Yeah, it makes for a better cock and bull story. Wow that is really frightening to hear that well also at risk of hacking critical infrastructures such as water dams what did you learn about that? So IBM security researchers have uncovered a number of exploits we want to be very careful about not revealing things that are incredibly important to make sure that the vendors of these products are able to patch them first but

42:10 But the basics are that the software that controls the overflow and the amount of water in a dam or the release of water from a dam, that software could have critical flaws in it and allow attackers to take over the critical infrastructure. The water day now you may think what does this have to do with election hacking? If a major disaster like this happens on election day, first responders are immediately deployed. This is a massive distraction that risks life and could also prevent voters from getting to the election booth or getting to the polling booth. Now, this won't affect 300 million people voting but if you want to target one specific district or one specific type of voters... You break the dam! ...this is a great way to do that. You instantly prevent certain people from being able to vote

43:04 Well, everything in the world today is interconnected making it virtually impossible to predict what or where the next hack will be. Is the biggest concern here really the fear of the unknown? Yeah that's exactly right so uh the jargon that is often used is the internet of things but what this really means is your Alexa your smart fridge and every piece of, if you think about infrastructure on the back end. Valves and water pump stations or electrical stations all of these are now connected all of these are able to be chained together so when I say chained together

43:45 What happens in a Facebook type of system or social media system could impact what happens at Alexa. And if you send what's called a DDOS, that's a distributed denial-of-service attack... Yeah this guy should read Industrial Society and its future and then he could report even better on this He's just thought this guy is out of control. He's unhinged! He's talking kind of shit. All the valves, man... The valves are all lined Yeah if you want to get a district just blow up the dam Okay It's like French resistance. This is insane Yeah no kidding

CHAPTER 11 / 35 Discussion

IPv6 Transition Issues and Internet of Things Connectivity

Technical difficulties with Skype and home networking were traced back to issues with IPv6 implementation by ISPs like AT&T and Comcast. The transition from IPv4 to IPv6 is reportedly causing connectivity problems for many users, leading some to disable the protocol entirely. This friction poses a challenge for the rollout of the "Internet of Things" (IoT).

ipv6· at&t· comcast· internet of things· networking· skype· router settings

44:34 You know speaking of Internet of Things, we discovered on the last before the last show or was it the last show two shows ago that I was having a problem in my own network which was messing up Skype. The packets were losing and were dropping and just we couldn't really figure it out And the solution Was to turn off IPv6 In my router and ipv6 a big push behind it besides you know running out of IPv4 addresses and a lot of people don't know what this is talking about but we basically ran out of addresses for computers just because of the nature of the size of the block that we had to distribute. And so they came up with IPv6 which has, you know, billions of possible

45:26 IP addresses and you no longer have to use network address translation it can punch right through so you don't have to have fake fake The IP addresses behind your your router at home And this is mainly meant for the internet things and as we found out from the AT&T forum people turning this off To fix their connection. The AT&T engineers got all Huffy like wow, it's important turn back on and I did a little research about It seems there's a huge problem with two ISPs, AT&T and Comcast. as we the bridging from IPv4 to IPv6 and it's messing up and everyone is blaming their networks. Yeah, you know I don't know enough about it but it seems like the transition from IPv4 to IPv6 is not going very smoothly at all. Witness our own experience with it so I'm curious to see how this is going to work with the Internet of Things AT&T is no small player

46:28 And you know, so people have IPv6 on and then they can't get to half the websites because the AT&T network is not doing the bridging properly from IPv6-IPv4. And if they can do it who can? Well Windows has since 2013 i think Has a to redo is and it's also an ipv6 IPV4 bridging solution which also appears to be a problem according to people spoken with So this internet of things may be a great idea, but it's not really rolling out smoothly That I don't know why the valves of valves at the dam People are talking about that. The motu blocks being too big. I really don't know exactly their networking is religion at some point

CHAPTER 12 / 35 Discussion

Wells Fargo Foreclosure Glitch and Bank Misconduct

Wells Fargo admitted in a regulatory filing that a "computer glitch" resulted in 625 homeowners being denied mortgage modifications, leading to 400 foreclosures. The bank set aside $8 million for compensation. The hosts expressed skepticism that the issue was a simple software bug, suggesting it may have been a convenient excuse for systemic misconduct.

wells fargo· foreclosure· computer glitch· bank of america· mortgage modification· regulatory filing

47:11 But anyway, it's magic. Yeah seems like AT&T and Comcast are having the biggest problems with it And so how in the world can we expect the algos to blow up the dam? When the algorithm starts to sway Opinions on The news today There's a guy coding in LA To keep us afraid And Facebook made Well, we might as well stick with technology-related news. Again very disappointed in every single news organization no one has told me or written or reported on the actual issue here It's a heartbreaking discovery for hundreds of families who lost their homes in foreclosure Wells Fargo is now saying about 625 homeowners were not granted mortgage modifications due to a computer glitch

48:06 The issue came to light in a regulatory filing. In about 400 cases, the customers were foreclosed upon! The computer error was fixed in October 2015 but had been going on since April of 2010. Wells Fargo says it has set aside $8 million dollars to compensate those customers affected by the mistake." And everybody just accepts it. Oh, it's a glitch... It was... Nothing else but a glitch And nobody asked what the glitch was. Was it truly a bug in software? Was it a rule that was entered incorrectly? There's so many questions that can be answered just if someone did any work, but we've given up! Journos have given up on... What was the glitch? I have no idea In my opinion there never was a glitch Yeah, that's what I'm thinking What do you mean they just screwed people got caught and like oh glitch

49:03 Yeah, yeah cuz Wells Fargo has such a great reputation. Yeah they got such a great reputation Bank of America is not much better the Bank of America Got involved in for closing us this is a story we did it on the show. Did you run into problems with that? No. Oh, I thought that was something else. But it could happen. Yeah. Oh no we did have a problem yeah... Your mortgage was sold? They had a problem but we were working with the state attorney's general to try and entrap Bank of America There WAS Bank of America! Yeah that was Bank of America and so we're trying to entrap them with you know it was a scheme And the bank pulled out of the state before anything could happen. Oh really?!

49:50 Damn, they just closed up shop in the entire state of Washington to get out from whatever was going on. Well They were apparently pulling a lot of stunts but then the story that was the most interesting to me again Bank of America Was I think it was in Modesto some guy who is foreclosed by the Bank of America? And he had to go to court and buy law get lawyers everything because he didn't even have a loan with the Bank of America He had no connection to the Bank of America. That's great well one more quickie then as long as we're bitching and moaning about Silicon Valley and technology

CHAPTER 13 / 35 Discussion

HTTPS Adoption and Bandwidth Challenges in Africa

The global push for universal HTTPS encryption is creating unintended consequences for users in regions with low bandwidth, such as parts of Africa. Because HTTPS prevents local caching, schools and organizations using satellite internet cannot save data by storing frequently accessed content locally. This leads to higher costs and slower speeds for those already facing digital divides.

https· encryption· bandwidth· africa· caching servers· satellite internet· web standards

50:31 I've had a problem with this HTTPS encrypt everywhere from day one. Not because i don't believe in having secure connections between the server and web browser, more because the way web browsers are treating HTTP unsecured connections by making it look like you're dangerous this could be horrible your computer could get infected people would steal the information being transferred from our valuable show notes to your browser And it's a lot of extra work. I maintain all our servers except for the mp3 and the IRC, and think that's it. I maintain everything else some servers have now been phasing out because I know eventually I'm going to have to buckle. Already curry.com which does not have secure encrypted transport

51:23 Which it should have, but it's work. I gotta go figure out how to do it and I'm not a dude named Ben. You know half-ass so its gonna take a lot of time A lot of energy, a lot of effort for things that really don't need to be secure There is just no reason whatsoever for our type of content But there something else that I only read about yesterday Half the world maybe more is on slow bandwidth connections I mean, I'm looking at Africa. I'm looking at lots of even India Pakistan There's tons but but Africa think would be the main they just have no good broadband and they're sharing it with a lot of people and The way this satellite lots of people using satellite in Africa is

52:14 The way they were solving some of the bandwidth problem is an old problem that we learned to set up I used to do it myself is have a local caching server so that when you have, you know 50 kids at a school in Africa and They need to get to the internet. They're not downloading and they've a fifty, you know Fifty megabyte cap or whatever as some crazy low amount Of data that they're not sucking down images and all these things and they can get it from a local cache Which is we use that in the be in the early days of the internet? And because it was very very efficient made everything faster, and they kept your bandwidth bills down You could actually yeah you know use your connection. You can't do that with HTTPS you cannot cash by definition

52:59 the HTTPS connection cuts out any possibility of there being a man in the middle and a cache would be a man in the middle. So you, so there are now lots of people writing about this specifically in Africa that they are then out there losing their shirts and money They can't even get enough bandwidth even if they had the money for it because these satellite transmissions won't allow for it They can't cach anymore A long story to tell you that HTTPS is racist! You know, you could probably make the argument. I just made it! It's racist against black people in Africa. Sounds right. I'm all for it. Form an organization. Yeah let me talk to my buddy Lear and see if I can latch on to his outfit. Alright so I've got a couple of things here that are kind of interesting...that are political

CHAPTER 14 / 35 Discussion

Paul Manafort Trial and Rick Gates Testimony

The trial of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort featured testimony from Rick Gates, who admitted to embezzling funds and leading a "secret life" in London. Judge T.S. Ellis criticized the prosecution for focusing on Manafort's expensive clothing and lifestyle. The defense argued that Gates was the primary actor in any financial improprieties, as Manafort did not handle bookkeeping.

paul manafort· rick gates· robert mueller· judge t.s. ellis· lobbying· tax fraud· trial

54:06 We've got the Manafort trials going on, which is getting to be kind of funny. But they're not covering it as much as they were once they put the defense up. There's a couple funny bits about here that we have I got two clips that one of them... Now from what I understand and haven't tuned out of that because this doesn't seem like anything is going on with any interest but is that they definitely defrauded, did some funky tax things. I guess the... Gates stole from Manafort. You know, it's just like a bunch of A-hole lobbyists is pretty much what I'm hearing doesn't seem really related to anything else. Well they're trying to twist it somehow incorporate Trump. Well yeah, I heard literally heard news reports finally we heard the president's name in the trial today!

55:08 Ah, actually a news report that's yeah. That's saying that but let's go with gates versus Manafort get a little kind of some I only clip the stuff this kind of amusing to me for they'd be okay with a sentence of probation for initially lying to the feds but that if he didn't, he could face 290 years in prison. So the Mueller team Gates testified prepped him for more than 20 hours to testify against his old boss but as soon as Manafort defense lawyers started asking Gates questions they got him to admit that he's led a secret life in London which included a girlfriend not his wife and a rented flat. Gates then testified he would figure out ways to trick

55:47 Paul Manafort into paying his personal American Express bill and that it's possible he may have fraudulently submitted personal expenses to be paid by the Trump inaugural committee. The Manafort defense team believes they've exposed the Mueller team star as unreliable, that's why Manafort lawyer Kevin Downing asked After all the lies you've told and fraud you have committed, do you expect this jury to believe you? And Gates said I'm here to tell the truth and take responsibility for my actions. Mr Manafort had the same path. I am here. I have accepted responsibility and i am trying to change gates insists that if there are charges of financial funny business, Manafort always knew where the money was and he always knew how to spend it. But the judge then jumped in to say Manafort wasn't that great at knowing where his money was if Gates was able to steal as much as he has admitted to stealing gates was told late yesterday afternoon that the Manafort defense team is going to have at least another hours worth of questions for him this morning That starts at 9 30 local time We do not know who the Muller teams next

56:51 witness would be that they might call we just know that they plan to wrap up their case rest their case sometime this week. Oh brother! So the interesting thing about this is the judge Yeah, apparently the judge doesn't think much of the Mueller team. No not much of the prosecution And so he's throwing stuff in like that particular anecdote where he says hey wait a minute if you know So he's got that much of I handle on things how come this happened and so he's interrupting The case which is apparently rare rare yeah during opening really open statements and stuff. Yeah all right

57:28 So he's apparently irked and there are pictures of him like, he doesn't like what is going on. And I think that he did say that this was a fake trial just wasting his and everybody else time to try get to Trump But meanwhile they bring out stuff that is very funny This is the Manafort clip. The Mueller team again today saying he doesn't want them the lily by introducing more photographic evidence of luxurious Manafort purchases than they really need to make their case. And that is as photos like this one of a blazer from Beverly Hills-based House of Bijon with Manafort's initials PM stitched in are introduced as evidence by the special counsel process.

58:13 This morning's first witness was a Florida-based contractor from Big Picture Solutions. It is the company that installs smart homes and audiovisual systems and networks, and the contractor says he received millions of dollars worth of international wire transfers from Manafort for houses he did at Manafort Homes up and down the East Coast. And sometimes he dealt with Manafort about the bill, and sometimes he dealt with Rick Gates, Manafort's deputy in business and at the Trump campaign. And the Manafort defense insists that if Mueller's team, the Mueller teams allegations are true and big purchases were being made with international wire transfers from accounts rich with Ukrainian consulting fees hidden from the IRS then Rick Gates is the guy who would know because they argue Manafort was the boss didn't concern himself with bookkeeping. Gates flipped on Manafort after pleading guilty to the FBI

59:06 The feds have had him penciled in as the star witness ever since and the Mueller team announced this morning they have every intention of calling him to the witness stand. That was not clear yesterday, that was kind of left ambiguous and at one point this morning the judge told the courtroom before the jury came in he doesn't think the Mueller team can prove conspiracy without Rick Gates's testimony which the Mueller team replied Not necessarily. Sandra. All right, on day three there in Alexandria, Peter Doocy thank you. Mmmmm, juicy! No, there's nothing! There's nothing! So apparently the judge also said because of all these they kept showing his clothes metaphor it's closing and they went to his closet I guess when they had their raid yeah they're building a profile with him being a deuce

CHAPTER 15 / 35 Discussion

Alan Dershowitz on Trump Tower Meeting and First Amendment

Constitutional lawyer Alan Dershowitz argued on CNN that it is unconstitutional to prohibit a political candidate from receiving information, even from foreign sources. He contended that information is not a "thing of value" in the same sense as a financial contribution under the First Amendment. This sparked a debate with former FBI official Asha Rangappa regarding the legality of the 2016 Trump Tower meeting.

alan dershowitz· trump tower meeting· first amendment· asha rangappa· chris cuomo· constitutional law

1:00:00 Yeah, he's a douche. And so they're taking all these pictures and the judge says hey is this guy on trial for being too rich? Yeah that's what they're trying to do but you know I still think they are uncovering and I see more reports about it even in New York Times. Manafort Trial is showing us just how many unregistered lobbyists and what kind of shenanigans they are up to all over DC Now, it may bring some things to light but I just don't see it. You know these are all old crimes if they're crimes and old shenanigans and there's nothing special. This is a little longer clip but if there's one guy you want to ask in America about...a guy who was still breathing and young enough to explain constitutional law who would that be to you?

1:00:55 I think Dershowitz is the guy. Me too, and we've always thought Dershowitz was the right guy to listen to and of course he's been shunned now because he never really changed his path Yeah bad! You gotta be flexible man! He should all for Hillary in Butthurt So, well he is butthurt about Hillary because he campaigned for her and supported her and voted for her. He gave money to her That's no longer important because he is not on the collusion train And it was on the Cuomo Kid show on CNN It was him against another lawyer also former FBI agent I think maybe just a FBI lawyer although she kind of

1:01:45 kind of build as a former FBI agent, Asha Rangappa. And this is about the meeting at Trump Tower because I think this is one of the final things that people are hoping for will be there the nail in the coffin of Trump and the campaign and the family and throw them all on the brink is that they knew that some Russian emissaries were going to come to Trump Tower, they knew that they had damaging information on Hillary Clinton. They knew this! They may not have gotten it but just the fact that they did that breaks the law because you may not receive or solicit anything of value from

1:02:33 a foreign entity when you're running for office. And this is quite clearly spelled out in the Constitution, but of course with all things constitution you can look at it from two different angles And I like this because the Cuomo kid kind of stayed in the middle and he just kind of bought between The box on the left and box on the right, and you'll hear the FBI lawyer first. You'll hear Dershowitz... well they're gonna go back-and-forth and I think he explains it quite clearly. This tweet is a problem because it's acknowledging that the purpose The purpose of that meeting was to obtain information that would benefit the campaign from foreign nationals. Now, there are a few legal issues here. The first is whether what was being offered was a thing of value? This is something you'll hear lawyers arguing about and a big clue here is in the recent indictment that Robert Mueller just filed against the GRU officers and in that indictment

1:03:35 hacking, which he brings against those 12 GRU officers alleges that the stolen emails were worth over $5,000. Which makes them a thing of value I think you could argue that they are valuable in many other ways but he's essentially laying the groundwork that this was a thing of value The question here is did they accept or receive it. I think that here you do have the other party, the Russian Crown prosecutor friend or whoever these people were reaching out they weren't soliciting but they did go to the meeting and the question is what happened afterwards? If it's illegal to solicit

1:04:12 and you find out that someone has dirt for you, and you know what kind of person it is. And you go there to get it? Why isn't that soliciting? An then what do you make of this in context?" Well first of all, it may very well be soliciting, and it may very well be a thing of value The problem is, it would be unconstitutional for a statute to prohibit a candidate from obtaining information from any source whatsoever. Just like the New York Times can't be prohibited from obtaining information or Chris Cuomo can't be prohibited from obtaining information even if the information you have is stolen, even if you know it was given to you by Manning or Snowden or Daniel Ellsberg The Constitution requires an open marketplace of ideas

1:04:55 This is very interesting. Listen closely because what you're about to hear is the belief that there's a distinction between journalists and the rest of the world. And you cannot construe a statute that was intended to prevent financial contributions largely, to apply it information, to apply facts, to apply news... That would be unconstitutional! So this is a false analogy Chris First of all, political campaigns are not news organizations. And here the key word in what Professor Dershowitz just said is the open marketplace of ideas when you have something happening so repetitiously be under the table secretly that is not an open marketplace of ideas now if if the Trump campaign went on TV and said

1:05:39 said, hey the Russian government just gave us all this stolen information and told the voters that. That would be one thing I still think it would be a crime but at least they're being transparent when they are concealing the source of that is exactly what our open society is meant to prevent we want people to evaluate information in context Professor. Well, the statute itself clearly is intended to cover financial contributions it's always been applied that way it has never... Why didn't they say that? ...been construed or interpreted why didn't they say what? Money Well, they did this is the old muskets defense value But you have to construe us even let me let me be even more specific Even if they intended to cover this they can't cover it because it would be unconstitutional. You cannot regulate ideas

1:06:28 The federal government simply doesn't have the power under the First Amendment to prohibit a candidate. Remember, a candidate is also expressing First Amendment views. He has exactly the same status as The New York Times and as you do he has the right or she has the right to use any information from any source and it doesn't matter whether this is a foreign or domestic source, and that's why to construe an ambiguous statute that way would violate the first amendment. And the first rule of constitutional construction is if you have a statute that's capable of being construed in two different ways, you must always construe it constitutionally consistent with the First Amendment and under such a construction

1:07:08 I hear there are arguments on either side, but Asher there's something else going on here. Lying! Okay? I cut it off there. It's like well that won't work. LYING! Lying! Anything they can do... How could you have such stupid people like this lawyer at the FBI?! She's really gone off the deep end with her legal analysis. I like the way she said instead of saying surreptitious, she says surrepetitious Yeah we have an actual knight whose name is Surrepetitious But surrepetitious was her word. Surrepetitiously

CHAPTER 16 / 35 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 1057 Production and Media Inquiries

The hosts acknowledge the artwork for episode 1057, "The Heckler's Veto," created by Mark G. Adam Curry mentions receiving an interview request from the Austin American-Statesman to discuss the reach of independent media following the Alex Jones ban. They encourage listeners to check the "New and Noteworthy" section of podcast apps.

mark g· no agenda art· austin american statesman· alex jones· podcasting· media interview

1:07:46 Yeah. So there you go, it's like no but I love how she tries to make a distinction about the New York Times is different you know as a journalist they have the right this is the belief that is propagating very quickly that there is a different right for journalists than for you and I or anybody Everybody's a journalist in this country. And with that, if they want to be I'd like to thank you for your courage before you say yeah now okay go ahead I can well can you explain it? Yeah, I'm just looking to stall their mind on my very with that i'd like to thank you for your courage and your stalling and say in the morning to you John see you when the C stands for copulating for 30 years Devorah

1:08:39 In the morning you Santa Cruz ammonia ships to see boots and graffi in the air subs in the water and all The dames and knights out there in the morning to the troll room no agenda stream calm good To see you guys here full chatroom or troll room to be correct Thank you very much for showing up. And also a hearty in the morning too mark G back back on the scene one of our pros He brought us the artwork for episode 1057, The Heckler's Veto. Another legal term we learned on the show This was a dynamo he did a number of pieces and I think you used one in the in the newsletter Yeah But this was a modernistic depiction Of a white silhouette with all kinds of colored fingers pointing at it It was frame worthy

1:09:27 I'm not kidding. If you took off our logo and you put it in the museum, people go oh that's deep! That is very deep man. I really like it. It was good. Great piece of work. Whenever Mark G comes on the scene he never disappoints thank you so much and thank you to all the artists who are continuously contributing And when you go look at your podcast app Certainly the Apple. I don't know how other ones function, but if you go look at new and noteworthy We're always there we're always near Rachel Maddow And let me tell you she's got the same tired ass picture and you look at art a snazzy artwork You just want to click on it It helps it really does and its appreciated no agenda ArtGenerator comm and thank you for your courage before you start I just got an email from Sebastian Herrera a reporter from The Austin American-Statesman

1:10:20 We're writing an article about Alex Jones, even though he's been banned from Facebook Spotify etc. He still has a far reach online through his website and other sources as someone who has a lot of experience with reaching people through different mediums I was wondering if you'd be open to talking about the reach people have in this day and age without having to set up a big operation As well as the trickiness of companies trying to regulate this stuff Hmm. Ooh, do you think I should do that? Make sure you get the name of the podcast no agenda show So that's a yes i'm doing this Oh yeah Okay Absolutely. And you can do a good job, you're gonna kick butt! Okay I'm going to... he says the deadline's today!! Well tell him as soon as the show is over here give him a call That's what i said, I'm saying it right now done okay noagendashow.com I'll have to remember that gotta get my plugs in

CHAPTER 17 / 35 Discussion

Executive Producer Contributions and Jobs Karma

The hosts read a list of executive and associate executive producers who contributed to the show, many celebrating the 30th anniversary of John C. Dvorak and his wife Mimi. Listeners requested "Jobs Karma" and "De-douching" in exchange for their financial support. A notable anonymous donation detailed mandatory "White Man Summits" and diversity training at a major defense contractor, allegedly Lockheed Martin.

executive producers· donations· jobs karma· 30th anniversary· no agenda· value for value

1:11:16 All right, well one of the ways you do that is by not relying on monetization from corporate entities. By not relying on their infrastructure at all if you can avoid it and I think we've been pretty successful with that and We have a group of people who have surrounded us over a decade And they support us. They support us in many different ways and one of them is financially, and we like to elevate the people in the top...to the top of the show as our executive and associate executive producers. John has a list Well, we start off with Henry Barron of the Outpost West who came in with 88.00 which is a course a celebratory donation for this 30 year anniversary. Yes. He says on his long note

1:12:05 which I will have to move this over. Okay, I haven't made one time contribution in a while but I did up my recurring contribution last year to equal the subscription price of The Financial Times! There you go. We gotta do have what we need to do is on one of the news was I want to put a big list What does it cost to go to a movie every week? And he feels that this show equals minimum the value of The Financial Times. Well, thank you! I think it's probably true. Yeah well, I really appreciate that and he says happy anniversary there you go Thank You nice Kyle Carroll aka Sir Enoch Paladin of the oil patch 500 bucks from big spring Texas

1:12:51 In the morning, gents and hello from Big Spring Texas. The crossroads of West Texas turning for West Texas with an accent like this! Turning 48 on Friday I can't think of a better self gift than to support the best podcast in the universe thank you for your do he's on the birthday list? I don't think so yes he is he is on the list thank you for their courage and your bi-weekly episodic excellence keep it up and if you have any I suppose a little birthday karma would be nice We can do that for him right now. Hold on a second, I was just writing the guy back he says Can you do 330? He said I don't think so You've got karma So Scott of the bikes 422 21 Job Karma works. I landed a gig that gets me out of the vortex of DC douchebaggery Furthermore the karma overflowed into finding the perfect rental property in Colorado

1:14:00 It's a coincidence that all this happened leading up to 8-8-18. I think not, with my Q glasses on this is clearly an elaborate conspiracy orchestrated by Q himself John C Dvorak to elicit further donations to his no agenda front organization well played Deep State This donation is a match for my original Jobs Karma request plus and extra $5888 for JCD's anniversary Congrats you devilish rogue And he will get the autographed photo. So, he needs... what does he need? Job Karma. Oh! Jobs Karma?! Yeah of course. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for Jobs! He's got more than he knows what to do with now. Hey you're talking over everything man can you not hear me? Can't you not hear- I can hear ya' I can hear the whole thing. I thought my talking over would work No it doesn't really Anyway, I think he is just going to be overflowing with Job Karma

1:15:03 Soiree of the hidden jewel, James Piers. Escondido California 333. Thank you for your courage please accept 8888 plus 24545 is my best podcast in the universe production investment. Please wish my wonderful beautiful Swiss wife Jasmine a happy anniversary we are now married 20 years and have been very fortunate throughout our journey together John Jasmine and I were married on 8-8-98. So we were close to your near perfect numerology. Congrats to Mimi and you too, job karma please along with the rule follower and I got ants as much as you're willing to play As we really do have ants What no? No it's not even fist bump all the NOA agenda producers and listeners Oh brother Okay i'm a rule follower so if the rule is that we have to do it then i'll do it Amen fist bump

1:16:01 I got ants. I got ants. Jobs, jobs, job and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! Yutaka Karma. Let's hope that it doesn't give the ants jobs. Right? Anonymous333 My moniker is corporate security producer. I sent you an anonymous email as corporate security producer from Proton Mail with some additional Jim Acosta deconstructions NJNK just a long overdue de-douching please You've been de-douched Did you get that email? Corporate Security

1:16:53 I will look for it. I will look for it, apparently Scott. I don't think is meant to be read so I'm not going to go through yet. Okay. Scott Penton in Tonawanda New York 333 Hello John and Adam my birthday 8-8 is my birthday. So I figured a donation as needed. I've been listening for awhile now since Adam announced on the DSC that he was doing a Skype call with this guy named John C. Dvorak. I've donated a little more here and there the best I can, so with this donation, I guess a de-douching is needed. Also some job karma please for the other dude in Dudettes named Ben that are looking for work too

1:17:42 I will continue to try and hit people in the mouth in FEMA region two. I'm thinking of starting a meet up in the Buffalo area, to wake people up. A lot of shenanigans in the city of Buffalo. Buffalo and it was New York. Thanks for waking me up and being my main source of news since I no longer watch the news anymore local or national Yeah jobs karma for the dudes in dudette's name bed jobs jobs jobs Jobs job and jobs Karma And then we have our Mark Jeremy Dytham. Oh, sir mark Sir mark the Baron of Tokyo or Duke did he says email to follow at about 7 a.m Did you get an email? I just said name I start working on clips. I don't look at my email really He said that he's OTG where is his OTG somewhere and he wouldn't be able to do it in Phoenix off the grid in Phoenix

1:18:49 Okay, I only need yes here. This is Sunday yeah would be today yet no today's Thursday Thursday today's third sir mark do good Japan the Japan Sea and all disputed islands here greetings from Marble Canyon Arizona where we are truly otg 45 miles from the nearest store with only dial-up access on a shared computer at the lodge We are staying at refreshing I'm a three-week family road trip across America, 10 days West Coast. Ten days in and around Chicago with Mila Maxx and the keeper Miss Natasha What a road trip so far! LA San Diego Phoenix Sedona Grand Canyon Marble Canyon then on to Antelope Canyon Bryce Zion Valley Vegas And back to LA with no agenda past and present blasting out along the way poor kids

1:19:36 So it seemed a great time to show our appreciation for keeping us sane and our view of the world so logical and real Miss Natasha is always amazed by your insight in fairness, especially when it comes to discussing her compatriots That would be ruskies as she has said from day one. There's been no collusion No collusion, I tell you Mark. Apart from the usual inconsequential nonsense that goes on all the time What about the billions of negative ads Democrats spent? Don't look over here! It's Natasha's birthday on 8th August, 8 of the eighth since hence the 288 donations so please wish her a great day and give her some birthday karma We should be in the car listening to this we have been totally blown away by the beauty and scale of the US on this trip And positive spirit of everyone we have met America is great

1:20:24 Oh man, nice note Mark. But what's the problem here is how come you're not coming by Austin bro? Or to poop city San Francisco. Hey! Poop City! You've got karma I'm just gonna put Natasha on the list because she was not there okay now uh... In advance i'll tell them Bryce Canyon is a stunner Onward, Sir Dick Bangs. By the way he'll be associate executive producer for the show 1058. Sir Dick Bangs of DC in Washington, Washington DC 26664 8888 times 3 for each decade

1:21:13 Oh, that's a good one. Excited for my signed picture to Sir Dick Bangs of DC night of the no agenda round table love JCD new home construction karma and thank you for the sanity. Okay. You've got Karma Anonymous $233 and 33 cents during the heat of the 2016 election I was hit in the mouth by someone at a random thread on 4chan of all places I've been hooked on your insightful media deconstruction ever since. Please give me a de-douching! You've been de-douched. That's some goat karma at the end in regards to this Q phenomenon, and i'd like to remind everyone of this rule The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact

1:22:16 There's only one way for Q to prove himself in my book and that's a picture of a set of boobs in the Oval Office with the timestamp written in sharpie. Until then it's just another LARP like I've seen them plenty of times before, N-A-nonymous from the Pacific Northwest." Yes that would be a great Q proof as they call it, a boob proof plenty of these, that's the next one is NA Anonymous. Oh no that is yeah okay we got another anonymous anyway he ends it there yep that's all I seen well thank you very much Anonymous and now we have N Anonymous from The Pacific Northwest $211.60 He makes up for lost time with this note here's my contribution to keep you going NOAA agenda provides an important analysis of current events by undoing distortions done by the M5NM and by highlighting

1:23:14 heinous propaganda tricks. It helps maintain your mental harmony by demonstrating, over and over again that it's not you who is insane but rather those people around you with suppressed or exterminated critical thinking that keep reciting to you mass media memes they just read on Facebook. Preach! You stay calm and relax while these people run around scared by the threat du jour Be it President Hitler, North Korean missiles hitting the US West Coast. Hey remember when I was in Holland like a year ago and everyone was freaking out about the North Korean missiles? Remember that? Yeah. That's gone now yeah people forgot now there were people really afraid they had been so riled up by that in Europe and in the Netherlands it was nuts I remember reporting on it

1:24:09 Oops, guess that's not important anymore. He goes on after the North Korean is talking about Ebola or the rising sea level This is good for your general health to however Not everything is rosy here your comfortable existence comes at a price You will feel lonely surrounded everywhere by disturbed and sometimes deranged individuals This is a depressing picture to watch You have to keep your mouth shut most of the time because you let any of your logical thoughts escape, you'll immediately lose many of your Facebook quote unquote friends. If you haven't quit it already that is after that you start losing a real life friends and acquaintances you may get in trouble at work if you trigger somebody there

1:24:53 If you'd like to stay social and have many friends, stop listening to no agenda. Go overboard! The only show that tells you to stop listening I like it Before if but if you stay they'll make you a day Like No Day Has Been or Will Ever Be Again just kidding...if You Stay support Adam & John with the contribution you can afford Freedom is not free And then NJNK, just please add a drone again at the end of the show. A classic masterpiece! We had... We got 1 third anonymous in a row talking about your random number working out. Yeah $201 Keep me anonymous! They sent us some email to share I'll go ahead and share more inside off air

1:25:54 Look for that for maybe later in the show. Kyriakos Mitses, MITSES, MITSES, MIT SES. I have the note from Anonymous here. Okay. Episode 1057 outstanding work your competence and authority is admirable! He heard Adam say he hopes that white privilege and toxic masculinity are just Twitter issues. Oh this is a good note I regret to share this nonsense has indoctrinated our biggest defense company Lockheed Martin and this is the reason that the note is anonymous because I believe this person works there.

1:26:34 All leaders are required, listen to this John. All leaders are required to take training that teaches about white privilege and toxic masculinity It's been ongoing for about a year Also all executives are required to attend a so-called White Man Summit it's just shameful the white men in these classes are figuratively castrated they go to the front of an audience of about 50 leaders and explain when they realize that they are privileged It's really a shocking display of impotence. The room is packed with folks with masters and PhDs making six-figure salaries, yet they fail to recognize neo Marxism as it's happening. The minorities in the room openly say that senior leadership is too old and too white No one challenges the overt racist and ageist prejudice these meetings take place at corporate headquarters outside of Washington DC Please focus on this its inside fortune 50 corporate America at the highest levels

1:27:32 Wow. White Man Summit, how about that? I wonder if the fact that the CEO of Lockheed Martin's a female has anything to do with it. You'd wonder huh? Well makes me wonder. Kyriakos Mitsas in Melbourne Pennsylvania. Ah! We got another email here. See email from his email address let me see if I can find that right here this is our last donation so It just came it says I don't have it. I don't have this one okay. Let me look search squirrel mail ah wow that wasn't ready for you I Should I should have known There it is yes squirrel mail, I'm using squirrel mail remotely oh

1:28:29 I can't even find the jingle. I can't even find this, the jingle. Nevermind gave you enough chances here we go long time burner burner longtime burner Longtime boner first-time donor i was compelled to donate after the recent crackdown on The Seed Man I now realize the power of the Silicon Valley authoritarian douchebags have and I will no longer be supporting them Good luck yeah I'm cancelling my YouTube premium subscription and plan to divert those Ah, those funds to no agenda show. I also plan to go OTG and find Adam's OTG segments extremely helpful! Thank you. Do we have one for today? Uh...no

1:29:09 The value for value that your show provides is well over this small donation. Please keep up the good work, I must request a de-douching and donate to no agenda jingle! Thanks take care. Oh you mean the uh what do you think he means? The Allah Akbar? Donate to No Agenda! And what was the other one he wanted? The de-douching. Oh yeah. You've been de-douched. It's a show that is really unique. Donate to a no agenda, listen to John and Adam speak! Donate to a No Agenda Science is turning into a clique

1:30:01 And that will be our associate executive producers and executive producers for show 1058. I want to thank each and every one of them for helping us get this show off the ground Yes, thank you very much And these are titles that you can keep in cherish You can put them anywhere that they may be a benefit to you on business cards on your resume and your LinkedIn profile It does work we have 11 producers now currently experiencing jobs who have requested Jobs Karma. We could track that on LinkedIn, funny enough and again thank you for supporting the No Agenda Show we'll be thanking more people coming up in our second donation segment $50 and above and please remember we have another show coming up for you on Sunday I think we've given you some deconstruction things you can talk about and go out and propagate Our formula is this...we go out or hit people in the mouth

CHAPTER 18 / 35 Discussion

John C. Dvorak Hearing Aid Experience

John C. Dvorak shares his positive experience using hearing aids, noting how they have improved his ability to hear the television and listen to classical music in the background. He jokes about the "trip" of hearing amplified sounds and the relief of no longer having neighbors complain about loud volume.

hearing aids· classical music· deafness· health· technology· life experience

1:30:56 You know, I don't have an OTG segment but i do have a life experience that I wanted to share. Before you do that it was mentioned in the report that you read about White privilege and apparently the story that I insisted on replaying even though we played it back in March About the white privilege going on in the nursing in Australia was yes, was a hoax. Yes very well done

1:31:37 And we, everyone saw it get or me in this case Adam had nothing to do with it. Get suckered by one of these things and I apologize profusely. The mistake... I expected to get more feedback but only one guy... No, I think there's a lot of stories about itself What happens a lot is, you know people don't look at dates. I do it myself. I've fallen into this trap and all of the sudden you're watching something from half a year ago It's like wait a minute how it's new to me but its old news and that happens...it happens You know how yeah And actually I do know you know from when you were teenager? You know if you smoke weed how music can sound different

1:32:22 Hey man, yeah Seriously You know what? I mean right you a lot better. Well use that voice and try it with hearing aids It's even crazier when you do that You've got your brain trying to amplify the triangle and the hearing aids are trying to amplify it even more. It's a trip Just a life experience. It's really good, man! I'm telling you us deaf dudes we got it made man! It was awesome exactly so did you listen to Rihanna? Over and over again Ella Ella Umbrella Ella yeah that's great fantastic no I don't listen to...I listen the classical music is much better

1:33:15 Much better. You know, that's another thing I can stream that all day in my ears and walking around you can set the volume way into background just like the music is throughout the whole house only it never changes in volume Yeah It's great except for deafness hearing aids are pretty cool Well, I'm glad it's corrected the majority of your issues. Oh man! So much... The main one was the TV blasting that the neighbors were knocking on the door and the other one is not hearing when people are talking to you. What? Huh? What? Ehh?! I didn't hear ya! What!? I hated that. Yeah, me too. That's no good. I noticed that uh..I noticed you had a clip and i have one as well

CHAPTER 19 / 35 Discussion

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Healthcare and Funeral Costs

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) argued in a televised interview that the "sticker shock" of Medicare for All should be compared to the current system's costs, including funeral expenses for those who die without healthcare. She also claimed that the Supreme Court ruled health insurance premiums are a tax, a statement the hosts corrected as a misunderstanding of the individual mandate penalty ruling.

alexandria ocasio-cortez· aoc· medicare for all· funeral costs· healthcare· koch brothers· socialism

1:33:59 And seeing as we have a brand new jingle for it, I thought i'd set you up. AOC Socialism For You and Me Woohoo! Yes! Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Here's a clip where she talks about the people are like rolling their eyes over this one. She's talking even though the middle class is from the 70s to today has actually gotten bigger there's some statistics for that but she still says this, A lot of these folks were in their political heyday in third way 90s politics and they were campaigning and they were really kind of connected most to an electorate when they were fighting for these seats, when they got these seats. When they're campaigning most when we had more than American middle class. And so I think that politically this like upper middle class is probably more moderate but that upper middle class doesn't exist anymore in America. What did she just say?

1:35:02 She said that the reason I guess this is having to do with her being so successful because she's she saying that the things have changed Because the upper middle class. This is summarizing it Yes, things have changed and people are voting differently now because the upper-middle classes gone Really? That's what she said yeah hmm and is that some kind of socialist mantra or I don't understand I have to assume It is because everything she says seems to be written for her. I have something funnier Well, I'm sure anything would be funnier Well, it's funny when we can mock her when she just goes into depths that she does this She shouldn't be in and she's got so much going for. She's got the Uma Abedin look kind of Crazy eyes and a big teeth. Yes crazy eyes in the beak but now she's pretty she's articulate She has she has a lot going for except the depth of knowledge It's really quite apparent if someone could

1:36:00 Take hold of her and maybe get her some hearing aids you can whisper in their ear tell what to say Here she is with the Cuomo kid, and you get into the partisan issue of money Which is man do you want to spend a lot of my tax money on these proposals that you and Bernie and others have? Medicare-for-all college tuition maybe even housing uh... that the green new deal that you have it is all very expensive especially on the single-payer side and then it gives people sticker shock even in bernie's home state they got still like a mhm she doing that again john kershaw they couldn't get it done at the end his statement was of how expensive it isn't that was an eleven percent increase in taxes nine to eleven percent even that was too much for people how do you pay how do you sell it

1:36:47 So first of all, the thing that we need to realize is people talk about the sticker shock of Medicare for All. They do not talk about the sticker shock of our cost of our existing system. You know in a Koch brothers funded study if any studies going to try and be a little bit slanted it would be one funded by the Koch brothers It shows that Medicare... Does she now know this is old? That you shouldn't be talking about the Koch's anymore? That they actually hate Trump Is she dumb? She does not understand this is not what you do Citizens United must go. The study is going to try to be a little bit slanted, it would be one funded by the Koch brothers It shows that Medicare for all is actually much more Is actually much cheaper than the current system that we pay right now And let's not forget That the reason that the Supreme Court upheld the Affordable Care Act Is because they ruled That these monthly payments that everyday Americans make Is a tax Man I got a real problem with what she saying here That's no true

1:37:44 They did not rule that. They did not rule that the payments everyday Americans make is a tax, No! The penalty for not being covered was a tax That's what the Supreme Court ruled Not just having health care insurance is a tax And so while it may not seem like we pay that tax on April 15th We pay it every single month Yes, and they upped my premium to about $1500 a month under the plan I was enjoying previously which i no longer enjoy because it's unaffordable. That's how it was paid for!

1:38:21 paying for this system. We Americans have the sticker shock of health care as it is and we're also not talking about is why aren't we incorporating the cost of all the funeral expenses of those who died because they can't afford access to healthcare? There it is now, now that this is a great way to get behind her plan don't you think It's too expensive, people are dying. That costs a lot of money! I think this is one of the best i've ever heard it's too expensive because people are funeral cost of health care as it is and we're also not talking about is why aren't we incorporating the costs of all the funeral expenses of those who die because they can't afford access to healthcare that is part of the cost of our system now when we talk about the cost of reduced productivity because if people who need to go on disability

1:39:10 because of people who are not able to participate in our economy, because they're having issues like diabetes or they don't have access to the health care that they need. I think at the end of the day we see that this is not a pipe dream every other developed nation in the world does this why can't America? And that's the question that we need to ask We have done these things before. We write unlimited blank checks for war, we just wrote a $2 trillion check for that tax cut the GOP tax cut and nobody asked those folks how are they going to pay for it? AOC socialism for you and me! Woohoo sounds like a winner

1:39:48 My goodness, it's too bad because she has so much going for her and you know the fact that she is now been elevated to this almost international status I would say. And i'm reading about her everywhere in the European press are talking about her as you know The Great Hope Yeah yeah The Great Hope She is on a roll She always thinks she's elected, she's president Almost Yeah, she really feels like she's up there. Well we'll see how that goes. Somebody is behind all of it. Well you know there has been a lot online... It could be Bernie. Bernie's group is Bernie's group. Well there's Bernie's group but also people who have tied her to Soros money Of course yeah That's easy to say too You don't even have to look I'm sure you can find it That guy has so many little non-profit funds its ridiculous So I am sure there something somewhere

CHAPTER 20 / 35 Discussion

Zephyr Teachout and the Abolish ICE Movement

New York Attorney General candidate Zephyr Teachout campaigned on a platform to abolish U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). She characterized the agency as a "tool of cruelty" born out of xenophobia post-9/11. Teachout pledged to use the AG's office to prosecute ICE for what she described as criminal acts and unconstitutional behavior.

zephyr teachout· abolish ice· immigration· attorney general· new york· law enforcement

1:40:47 Well, she's also in the same camp as this other woman running for Attorney General of New York. Oh yeah. Who was talked about before, with the greatest name ever for I don't know what Zephyr Teachout and she is the leader in Wait she's leading the race? Well no she can't be leading because she's a complete idiot but it's the same basic pitch and she's like a blonde kind of looks like a housewife from Dubuque with the kind of, the hair is not quite done quite right. But it's this same pitches that AOC has is all socialist stuff and I think a lot of Democrats are naively believing that the no borders

1:41:39 pro-immigration stance is something the American public wants. I don't know why you'd want it, but they must believe it listen to her this is her recorded pitch advertisement. ICE has to be abolished and I say that as somebody who's running for one of the top law enforcement jobs in that country. I have so much to say about ice let me think quite quickly I think it's critical that law enforcement speak out and say this is a tool of cruelty, unconstitutional behavior illegality. There's so much wrong with ICE that goes to its very structure the idea that

1:42:20 people are illegal. The idea that we should see immigrants as a national security threat and that ICE should be placed under the Department of Homeland Security, by the way the area where the president has the greatest authority to do the most damage. Just does not make any sense. ICE was born in xenophobia, in the time after 9-11 and has grown up to become a tool of fear and illegality And as Attorney General I will continue to speak out against ICE. I will prosecute ICE for their criminal acts We have stories of consistent abuse within ICE The idea that we could call this law enforcement

1:43:06 is a real offense to the idea of law itself. And as AG and as a candidate for AG, I feel like it's really important to speak out to abolish ICE. Fear is those are the facts in this world! And you will all surrender to them! You pigs! Yeah...I love her thinking. God...she is so out there It's really sad No, but yeah. Well the whole I think the whole party is headed in that direction because they don't know what to do It's either that or Hillary one more time Yeah, she's she's off the scene and not heard from recently what's going on? I think there I don't think she is off the scene Hmm. I think they've made a concerted effort to marginalize her. I think the media is behind it Yes And there's been so freaked out Sorry

CHAPTER 22 / 35 Discussion

MTV Decoded on Racism versus Colorism

An MTV Decoded segment explained the distinction between "racism" and "colorism," defining the latter as discrimination based on skin tone within specific communities. The segment argued that racism is tied to structural power dynamics, meaning people of color "technically" cannot be racist toward one another, only colorist. The hosts critiqued this as a perversion of logic and a product of identity politics.

mtv decoded· colorism· racism· social constructs· identity politics· language· kafir

1:48:51 And they're just pussies. That's why that's why they brought this whole stupid category in for years people have been nominated for best picture I bet you they do rock five bucks five bucks it is your own Now to MTV my old stomping ground we used to play videos by Guns and Roses Okay, I admit it. I played a lot of new kids on the block too if that was forced labor But they have MTV programming yourself. I thought they were telling you what to know and that was dial MTV and That was the precursor to MT TRL total request live with Carson daily, and it's a dial-in so and by the way MTV is

1:49:36 Completely screwed with this all the time because back in the day it was telephone they call up and they say yeah I want new kids on the block new kids on the block was that was insane And then channel didn't want to play it because it wasn't you know rough, and they're cool. It wasn't rock It wasn't rap it was you know a bunch of white kid boy band We don't want them on MTV But they were incredibly popular so they'd have thousands of fans tie-up The phone lines every single day calling for new kids on the blocks They couldn't get around it They always have to put it on the chart It wasn't always at number one. Anyway, I digress so they've changed from this video music network and i think correctly they did the right thing because you know video music video Music videos became a commodity and just wasn't a profitable business But this MTV decoded and I looked it up we've played a similar clip from them about half a year ago And this helps us understand from uh black girl and hispanic guy

1:50:34 how there's a difference between racism and colorism. And this is where you and I have got to hip up, my friend. Because we're still working on the assumption that the word racism means what it means in the dictionary. Uh-uh uh-uh uh-uh! I've chopped this up a lot because it's going into deep examples and racism within black communities and Hispanic communities but really the point is... You got racism they explain very clearly what racism is and then really what we used to call racism is now colorism

1:51:10 Today we're talking about a mode of discrimination that predominantly impacts people of color. And you might be surprised hearing this from me, but this episode is not about racism! I'm talking about Colorism. First let's be clear what the word colorism actually means Colorism is not synonymous with racism. It's a form of discrimination based on skin color and before you're like wait Isn't that like the literal definition of racism? Isn't that like the literal definition of racism? Hold onto your social constructs because we're gonna knock a few down

1:51:49 we've got a special guest to help us with this demolition project. Hey Lee, let's break this one down. Claro que si! As a Latino of color, colorism is something I'm all too familiar with. Racism involves discrimination based on things such as skin color but it's also dependent on power dynamics that become perpetuated by years of structural oppression... Black and Latino men getting longer... Now just right there i mean that is just not the definition of racism but it's the new definition that everyone has bought into It's not just skin color It's pretty much the power structure of the whites that do anything against anybody else is racism. This Jordan Peterson talks about this and he says that it's a slight of hand in humanities in colleges, what they've done is that they turned to class structure

1:52:37 and a race structure into oppressors versus the oppressed. And that's the basis of identity politics, and the identity politics is always the oppressed so if you're at the oppressor class whites there can never be racism against you because you're an oppressor. Yes this comes up in this clip. Racism involves I'm sorry, just said the whole thing's a perversion of logic. Yes. Discrimination based on things such as skin color but it's also dependent on power dynamics that become perpetuated by years of structural oppression Black and Latino men getting longer sentences for the same crime is white man racism

1:53:21 Black and Latino aunts telling you to date light-skinned men? Colorism. Because we often conflate race with skin color, sometimes distinguishing between colorism and racism can get tricky. Colorism... It sucks! This is one way racism and colorism are different. Systems of oppression favor white people meaning black people can't technically be racist towards other black people but clearly in this case they can and do perpetuate colorism in their own communities The discrimination is coming from inside the house Example number three, language. There's a pretty common phrase people in Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic grow up with, cafre. Among Spanish speakers in the Caribbean the word means someone low class or brutish and is said by people of all colors and racial backgrounds. The word implies you're acting darker in both complexion and behavior but the word itself carries a linguistic and cultural connection to blackness it shares roots with the South African racial slur kafir Now I left this in because I realized that the South African term kafir

1:54:17 I realized that there's a Dutch term, you know South Africans speak a version of Dutch because of the colonies and that word is kuffer. So it's to say... The root i guess is kafir from South Africa but kuffer is used..I didn't realize its racial term It's used all the time in Netherlands and don't think anyone realizes Its kind of use as terms like ah that guys an idiot, a kuffer, he's a kuffer so just an idiot But really it's a race, the dutch are racist They use this all the time and I don't think anyone realizes the origin of the word, and i finally figured it out. It means uh...it's racist against slow dark people." A colonial phrase that rose to prominence during apartheid and that is often compared to the n-word in the United States While cafre might not carry the weight of a Netflix slur in Spanish its indicative of how colorism can quietly become part of everyday life So how do we begin to eradicate colorism from our communities?

1:55:09 Let's get to work. It starts with some self-reflection, sometimes our learned prejudices can take over like muscle memory so first and foremost ending colorism means unlearning what we've been told about what beauty and success should look like So that goes for you the I'm not black i'm Dominican guy You can be black and Dominican guy but it also means breaking the steady stream of whiteness that still dominates Latin American media politics and culture trust me I've been working in entertainment for a while I've seen things. Ultimately, no one wants to be judged solely based on their external appearance Whether these judgments come from people who look like you or don't your skin color shouldn't determine your job prospects Your worth or your place in society We don't have to be colorblind but combating colorism means embracing the full spectrum of our skin tones especially in our own communities

1:55:53 There you go. The difference explained between racism and colorism, and colorism seems to only happen amongst POCs it can't actually be a white per- as a white person you can't be colorist against the black person your racist I think we should just accept this social construct What was this? This is on MTV? Yes. A sociological screed? yes! I wonder who wrote it Oh well Yeah, I gotta tell you. It's a professor or some local yokel. No this is probably just from the MTV News department they write everything. Well maybe. MTV news? Well there was a real case of racism kind of in a reverse well kind of a screwy thing that happened this was the big Candace Owens

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Candace Owens Confrontation with Antifa and Marc Lamont Hill

Conservative activist Candace Owens discussed being harassed by Antifa at a restaurant and debated Professor Marc Lamont Hill. Owens highlighted record-low unemployment for minorities under the Trump administration and criticized the "all-white gang" of Antifa for attacking a black conservative. The hosts noted her fast-talking debate style and use of "okay" as a rhetorical block.

candace owens· antifa· marc lamont hill· black conservatism· unemployment· philadelphia

1:56:46 She was in a coffee shop and the Antifa group came around and rousted her. So she goes on, she just goes on the talk show thing. She's a Republican black, very attractive black Republican woman and conservative. Ah, she got two out of three! And so she goes...so she's on this show one of these talk shows I believe that I don't know if it is on Fox or CNN but some professor is going on and on Kicks it up a notch and goes after him, and I think this is the woman you have to put up against Anna Navarro If we're concerned about here this sorry no. No go ahead

1:57:30 Because when you hear this, you hear someone who's like she's non-stoppable. She's fast talking and she's much like that... Well isn't she in PR? Doesn't she do PR for some nonprofit group already? Something like that. Yeah, she knows what she's doing for sure. She knows what she's doing but she got that guy Hill the professor that has been floating around used to be on O'Reilly a lot of black Democrat fast talker and he couldn't really out any fast logic fast on the draw Just Occasionally she goes off the rails and writes herself. But just listen to this little exchange, if we're concerned about black people we've gotta be concerned about poverty inequality lack of access to education plus the kinds of sorts of violence that we see directed toward black people in this country. And it's conversation sorts of violence has been directed towards black people am I black? I'm curious if I'm black because I'm a black conservative and I am not hearing anything that is said about the fact that about 25 white Democrats assembled

1:58:29 to kick me out of a restaurant yesterday, to throw water and eggs at me because I am a conservative that supports Donald Trump. The very same Donald Trump, okay? The very same Donald Trump that has... Not Obama! Obama did not do this because President Trump has been slashing regulations and it's brought this economy to a place it never been at, okay? We have unemployment that is all time low for both women you brought up women, you brought up gays, you brought up black people. Unemployment is at all time low across the board. You guys refuse to acknowledge the truth that we are doing better. You want to talk about fascists? Antifa attacked me, this is an all white gang that attacked me and attacks in all black police force in Philadelphia okay? And they claim fighting racism. Hey John you got a sender memo she's gotta stop with the okay it's gotta stop with that. How was it plausible? Hold on she does it... She uses as I don't know how she's doing it but she uses it as a block

1:59:24 When the guy who wants to say something, yes. Yes trying to get a word in edgewise she says okay and then continues on her merry way but yeah Who cares? She's hot I don't care what she says All black police force in Philadelphia okay and they claim to be fighting racism how is it plausible professor that you allow this happen to your community because you decided that because we are ideologically conservatives You are okay with this with the research of the Democrats. First of all, I haven't said a word! Don't cut me off you just said a lot of words. I didn't say a word. No no no...I said nothing about you. Now your cutting me off okay? I said nothing about you. No no no..I don't care at all. I'm fine what happened to you representatives on the left wing. I still have to keep it going Candace we're gonna take a pause. Candace I'm gonna let you finish but if your calling out the professor i have to give him time so Candace go ahead. Liberals have been attacking conservatives and you guys say nothing about it blacks

2:00:17 that always been the racist, the party's never switched and you should know this as a civil rights person. You know the history, you know the people under the hood of the KKK, more Democrats and the party never switched. And to Shane, you should defend what happened yesterday and defend our community being attacked because we support Donald Trump because we understand that we have better economic opportunities opportunities under him than we ever had in Obama. Oh my goodness, for freight train not very useful the last half of that discussion but no because it was but I think she could take on Anna Navarro and it would be very interesting even though you wouldn't be able to hear a word of it cuz they'd be yelling at each other you know It's not interesting its really has gotten boring

2:01:17 Well, she should employ the excuse me technique that Kellyanne Conway's perfected. Oh yes she does that very well doesn't she? Excuse me blahblahblah But that's how she uses her okay. She uses her okay in the same way It doesn't work as well because it because when she when Conway does it, she says excuse me and and then I'm You're interrupting him. She does a job of stopping the interrupter and making them look rude right this girl just goes like you said, so I Control freight train doesn't stop and doesn't stop which is another technique? I've seen it used and its

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Congressman Chris Collins Insider Trading Indictment

Republican Congressman Chris Collins was indicted on insider trading charges related to an Australian pharmaceutical company, Innate Immunotherapeutics. Collins allegedly tipped off his son about failed drug trial results, allowing family members to avoid $768,000 in losses. The hosts distinguished this from the legal "insider trading" often practiced by members of Congress through committee knowledge.

chris collins· insider trading· innate immunotherapeutics· department of justice· securities fraud· stock market

2:01:58 You know, that's what Anna Navarro does. She does the same thing she never stops and says excuse me she just goes like a maniac but yeah I'm just putting her on the list of people to follow up No you know instead of Anna Navarro we should put it against uh... The intern for the black caucus who was always on CNN That girl Oh i don't know who it is Yeah I forget her name If I- She's always bitching and moaning about not my president! She's on CNN all the time What's her name now? I don't know. Troll room? You're slow! You have to remember that i don't watch CNN much. Just two quick things before we take a break here, Do we have any...I mean Chris Collins New York Congressman indicted on insider trading A lot of people saying you guys said they couldn't be indicted on insider trading this is very different This is very very different Very different and I have a clip Ah good Indicted congressman

2:03:03 The Justice Department has indicted a sitting US Congressman, Republican Congressman Chris Collins of New York. The allegations against him incredibly serious the allegations securities fraud insider trading Shimon Perkupes standing by with the details and Shimon I do want to read for our viewers as you walk before you walk us through the indictment The allegation is wire fraud, securities fraud false statements. Here is the full statement coming from Representative Chris Collins let me read it We will answer the charges filed against Congressman Collins in court and we'll mount a vigorous defense to clear his good name It's notable that even the government does not allege that Congressman Collin traded a single share of innate therapeutic stocks

2:03:46 We are confident he will be completely vindicated and exonerated. Congressman Collins will have more to say on this issue later today, so that raises a question Will he hold the press conference? Will he issue a personal statement this comes from his team but again This is about a pharmaceutical company out of Australia That he sat on the board of while he was a sitting US congressman until just April Yeah well it sounds like you screwed up because he told his family members to sell their stock Well, he expressed the concern over the fact that he knew in advance that the super drug they were working on was failed. Now this is different than what we were talking about. Senators and congressmen

2:04:31 have access to important bills and committee minutes, and they know what's gonna pass. And they know it's not gonna pass that is kind of inside information an insider trading at a certain level, a certain type of insider training that they are exempt from being prosecuted for. That specific- Obama put signed the law into effect that it was a real half-hearted attempt by Congress. It's like, well they can still do these trades but they have to record every single one of them and the trades are recorded on I think microfiche in the basement of the library. Yeah you can't make copies if you go there yeah you can't make copy and you can't make copies

2:05:20 And so they're all... You have to go there and memorize. Yeah, they're all doing insider trading this guy's an idiot I mean how could you get caught when you can do all this stuff legally as a congressman? Yeah, this is illegal as a congressman type of insider trading but that's the difference Do you think it was possible maybe someone's on to a lot of this insider trading and they had to get someone throw them out there No, i don't think so. I dont think its got anything to do with what's legal This is if anything this guy was a big Trump that what the first congressman who supported Trump. Yes, of course I forgot about hello Yeah, yeah well more elites from New York Bill de Blasio the mayor Has now starting to bring in regulation all kinds of rules to block uber and lyft and other ride-hailing services

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Bill de Blasio Regulation of Uber and Lyft

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio signed legislation to freeze new licenses for ride-hailing services like Uber and Lyft, citing traffic gridlock and driver poverty. Critics argue the move protects the interests of the elite who use limousines and ignores the failures of the city's subway system. The hosts characterized the mayor's stance as elitist and detrimental to working New Yorkers.

bill de blasio· uber· lyft· new york city· ride hailing· traffic gridlock· elitism

2:06:13 And here's what he tweeted, our city is directly confronting a crisis that is driving working New Yorkers into poverty and our streets into gridlock. The unchecked growth of app base for higher vehicle companies has demanded action and now we have it! And I thought, by the way if you go look at the comments you'll know this guy is an elitist prick. Who has problems with gridlock traffic in New York City? Is it the working men and women of New York? No! It's the elites whose limos can't get around Everyone else is like, I need Uber because your damn subway system doesn't work. I'm at this stop its been closed for nine months. I'm over here no one can get subways The whole system is shit

2:06:55 And he's complaining about what is happening above ground. The men and women who work in New York cannot get to work without assistance from time to time from these ride hailing companies Taxis are twice or three times as expensive I mean this is a scam And I'm no big fan of Uber and Lyft, but for him to be saying this is a crisis. It's just for the elites who when you're in New York do you drive around in a cab all day whenever you go or you grab a subway? Yeah yeah what? I'm always on the subway! The only way to do it in New York if you really want to get somewhere but no. Yeah I'd probably take a bus once in awhile if I knew where the buses go but the subways are very easy to deal with

2:07:44 Well, that ties into our model John. Taking the bus! In the good old days in PC Magazine when I was making millions and millions of dollars, we all had accounts. It was great! Oh yeah at MTV we had Communicar with vouchers Yeah vouchers, you fill out the voucher And then people would get to know that they're using too many vouchers JJ Jackson who died 15-20 years ago now He was one of the original MTV VJ's he was the big black guy

CHAPTER 26 / 35 Discussion

Associate Executive Producer Credits and Donations

The hosts continue reading the names of producers who donated $50 or more to the show. Many donors sent messages of support for the "Value for Value" model and celebrated the show's 1057th episode. The segment includes various "call-outs" and "de-douching" requests from the audience.

donations· producers· 30th anniversary· value for value· no agenda· credits

2:08:42 Yeah. Communicar, who we used in New York they called him the franchise this guy was always out partying all night and he just have the car you just give him a blank voucher and say stay for 10 hours they'd be hanging outside the club you'd have bring them to his shift wait outside you know certain point JJ man it's going too far $1,000 a night on communicar charges good old JJ died of a massive heart attack Ever since the collapse of the dot-com in 2000. Yeah, it was good times back then good times good times sir Sir pate snakes in the netherlands 123 45 I will read his note he's a important contributor yes important guy once again I like to thank you for the great content please put me on the birthday list for my 44th on the 11th also warm welcome To the table of the other sir pate

2:09:42 Really? Yeah, we've got Sir Pete's or Pete sneaks snakes and he needs some job karma if you can afford it We'll put that at the end for you bet. Thank you very much sir Pete anonymous 100 Jennifer Kirchner 100 from Paulsburg Bo Paul's boat Washington one of the cutest little places you ever find She does have something to say she wants to call out. She needs a de douching You've been de-douched And she was to call out Barnaby, Bee, Tabby and Kanoa for being douchebags and not donating indecently.

2:10:35 She needs some baby making karma. We'll put that at the end. Christopher Collins in Springfield, Missouri 8970 Jackson Butler and level land Texas 8888 or these are the eight judges for Christopher Collins donation on of his wonderful wife's birthday on eight nine I'd like to wish her a very happy birthday till I love her okay it's important you do those little notes are important who needs a deducing He does. Christopher. You've been de-douche'd! All right, now the following people are 80888 donations in celebration of the 30th anniversary Jackson Butler in Leveland Texas Roderick Velo Hey TPO podcast

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2:12:19 Sean Fincham in Portland, Oregon. Alex Schoenfeld in Seabrook New Hampshire Sir Patrick Coble there in Tennessee Paul Love in Mechanicsville, Virginia. 88-88 Spike Angus in South Jordan Utah Anonymous in Oliphant Pennsylvania Spike has a call out and he wants to de-douche it You've been de-douched He's got a trifecta here John when do we have to douche? Okay you like...He wants the call out Danny Angus Douchebag!

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2:13:57 He's in Ireland. Ireland, Danilo D'Souza, yes? I'm not sure unless he has a pronunciation. Danilo says he is a monthly donor always contributes $13 but the show was worth so much more you keep me sane from the media brainwashing that we're constantly being subjected to please accept my donation of 8888 although it's nowhere near enough thank you very much Danilo and Cork Dame Elizabeth and Sir Big Johnson Uh-huh. And Patepsi, New York. Tim White. You can see the ring on that guy. Lee's Summit in Missouri Sir John Kilburn Black Knight in Houston Texas Sir Joe in Palm Bay Florida and Sir Craig Porter and Council Bluffs Iowa Ron Link in Holbrook New York sir John aka Red Congrats wants a picture Sir Kevin Dills Viscount of Charlotte

2:14:57 North Carolina, and Sir Mike in Wakefield. In Wakefield Massachusetts. Charles Eves in Hawthorne Woods Illinois and last couple here Jason Zeisler in Renner South Dakota Jonathan Ferris in Liberal Kansas Nigel Uwin Uwin Uwin Uwin John Davis in surveillance, Brentwood Tennessee. Rick Agro in parts unknown Colin Ayers and Blissfield Michigan Nathan Miller Foster You guys the low donations this summer are wearing on you guys you're starting to fight a lot Adam in particular seems to be very sensitive Okay

2:15:50 He is, he's always- It's called real. If you want if you want hey go listen to that NPR thing of those guys discussing the Oscars and tell me you'd rather have that. Hey John it was really great to hear from you guys! I'm so fantastic my colleague John DeBruyne... I can't even talk that fast if I try One of those guys getting paid by the word? I guess Nathan Miller Foster Sir Midnight Of The Rivers in Crestview Florida Robert Roberts in Medford, Oregon. Okay and I got a lot of photos. This photo thing's gonna take about a month just to sign them all. Well it's just there's a lot here because everyone wants one

2:16:38 It's one of those ideas of mine that I always regret. Regret is, you know we on this show We don't give away stuff or we don't give tote bags or anything like this mug and once in a while we commit to something like this And then yeah, who's this? We gotta do it as we committing me Robert Robertson Medford Oregon and that ends our little list of well wishes want to thank them all even those more well wishers. Carla Kruger 8859 I'm sure she's got something to say in an email Paula Peters in Middletown Connecticut 5833 Sir Milkman double nickels on the dime

2:17:18 He's gonna no keep it classy. Robert Luke, Salt Lake City best podcast in the universe double nickels on the dime and the following people are $50 donors name and location if available Joseph Pumphrey I believe is sir Jonathan Meyer in Zinnia, Ohio. David Schlesinger in Rosemont Illinois. Edward Mazurek in Memphis Tennessee. We have a lot of people in Tennessee. Larry Haye in Mooresville North Carolina. Tony Smith in Fort Worth. Tyler King, parts unknown he's got a long note why don't you check it out? He loves the OTG thing.

2:18:03 Drew Mocek in El Cerrito, California usually down the road from me Victor J Munoz in Miami Florida and last but not least Anthony Sammons in Augusta GA Okay, I go these folks were producing this show. Yes Thank you That's exactly what producers do and we'd love to thank them for doing that and thank everyone who comes in under $50 which is often done for reasons of anonymity. I see actually, I don't see any 49 99s today But we have a lot of people on the subscriptions that is really appreciated these sustaining donations be a sustainer

CHAPTER 27 / 35 Discussion

No Agenda Meetups in Seattle and Albuquerque

The hosts announce upcoming listener meetups, including an event at Vaughn's 1000 Spirits in Seattle and the Marble Brewery in Albuquerque. They remind attendees of the protocol for submitting donations at meetups, emphasizing the need for envelopes with names and notes to ensure proper on-air credit.

meetups· seattle· albuquerque· vaughn's 1000 spirits· marble brewery· community

2:18:44 It really does keep everything rolling. Be a sustainer, not an explainer! Yeah on the lower donations of Lower Donation Days thank you very much No Agenda Show that's your best podcast in the universe devorak.org slash NA and we have a meetup I was just looking at my cheat sheet here that Eric the shill gave me he doesn't tell me what day this meet up is on do we have one in Albuquerque New Mexico? At the Marble Brewery And I have 7 to 9 p.m., but they don't have a date Which is an oversight, to say the least. Do you know the date of this meetup? It might be under Meetups.com if you do a search with New Mexico it's possible. That's okay we got a Sunday show unless it's already tomorrow We do have a meet up obviously at Vaughn's 1000 Spirits in Seattle Washington

2:19:38 tomorrow from 6 to 8 for all the Pacific Northwesterners that want to come out. We probably have about 30-40 people there. Yes, I think meetup.com is where you can find information about them. Yeah maybe...I hate that site but it does kind of work and Mimi's in control of it but anyway there is an Albuquerque New Mexico Meet Up coming up And so make sure you check that out if you're in the neighborhood. Maybe someone in the chatroom can try to look it up while we're talking I want to mention there's this protocol for because people like to give donations at these meetups and The protocols have put the donation whatever it is John, we're not gonna be there

2:20:18 I am. Oh, you're gonna not the Albuquerque meetup? No i'm just saying that protocol for the meetups were there gotcha gotcha got you put that money or the check in an envelope with your name You gotta put your name in there with a note with your name and if you want something right on it on this show Appropriate so when is that when does that meet up? That's That's tomorrow in Seattle at Vaughn's 1000 Spirits on First Street. Right, then we have Arlington Virginia on the 12th August 12 and Monday August 13 is the Albuquerque meetup Yeah but the Virginia one seems it's gonna be very popular Yes And it's some hall isn't? I don't know The Constitution Hall

2:21:02 Yeah, I should write up a declaration of independence. We're decided to forsake the no agenda show and start our own show there you go all right Thanks again everybody it's highly appreciated another show coming out for you on Sunday vorac org Slash n as requested jobs jobs Jobs and jobs let's vote for job You've got karma Today being the 9th of August 2018 we say happy birthday to the following people belated birthday to Skyler Tyler's King celebrated on the 5th Scott Penton and celebrate your birthday yesterday Tyler King says happy birthday to Jason Hart Nigel Ewans has happy birthday to his beautiful wife Karen it's her birthday today as is Paula Peters and Natasha The Keeper celebrated yesterday

CHAPTER 28 / 35 Discussion

Death of Chef Joël Robuchon and Restaurant Legacy

Renowned French chef Joël Robuchon passed away, prompting a discussion about his culinary legacy and his signature "whipped potatoes." The hosts recalled dining at his restaurant at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. They discussed the fate of high-end restaurants after the passing of their namesake chefs, citing Lutece in New York as a historical example.

joël robuchon· michelin stars· whipped potatoes· las vegas· mgm grand· culinary arts

2:22:01 No title changes, no nightings. Nothing else. Hey sad news John! Although I'm very happy that I did get to taste the mashed potatoes Joel Rubishan passed away. Oh, yeah I know it's like oh that's horrible isn't it? Pretty much because he was right now the top guy. He was throwing the restaurants out there and you're right You got to eat it in Vegas, you know It was one of the best ever aotea it was unbelievable and Tina and I because it was her birthday weekend We went to Vegas we went back and look at the pictures because I remember the food was so I mean we didn't post them like on Instagram but but Tina she likes to take pictures and

2:23:00 And we went back and looked at the dishes, and there it was. There was the mashed potatoes he was- that was his like a signature dish wasn't it? No not really Oh thats what I read everywhere in all the obituaries though That kind of sucks then Well he made good mashed potatoes theres no doubt about it Actually it was whipped potato Whipped Potato Quipped Whipped Whippet Quipped Potatoes Yes Exactly Eh sad though So you never got to have his whipped potatoes? I've had his whipped potatoes, i've eaten at his places. Yeah. I used to stay in France it was that you would say the Aster which I believe where he opened up a two-star restaurant just opened up as a two star. Mmhmm. And I went there first and said oh yeah Rubichon's gonna open this restaurant here and they're gonna get its just gonna get 2 stars

2:23:48 Says it's not even open yet to To Michelin stars, huh? Yeah apparently his he's so good that mission I just grants him two stars for starters just for opening it up. Damn Yeah, and then you can get the third. I think it may have got a third star eventually Maybe not don't remember well No more now do they take those stars away what happens with the restaurant as signature restaurant like that which is in the MGM where the restaurant is in Vegas? Yeah, that's at the MGM. That one you went to. So what happens when your signature restaurant... They send the inspector over if the place is still up-to-par they don't change the stars necessarily But will people still go there expecting Rubachan Fair I mean how would... Rubachan wasn't there when you were there he didn't come out and say hi He just directs the restaurant

2:24:40 And so unless the place just has, you know a lot of these places they do fall apart right away once the leader is gone because they don't have anyone yelling at them. But some places that are really well managed they don't need somebody yelling at em all the time like a Gordon Ramsay restaurant for example but they can hang in there with a new guy sometimes they do sometimes they don't. Well I hope it works. Lutece is a good example, Lutece out in New York which had this old chef, and they were also known for their mashed potatoes. Whipped. They had a very interesting place to eat because it was not what you'd think of as high

CHAPTER 29 / 35 Discussion

China Response to US Tariffs and Economic Resilience

China's state media is preparing the public for a "long-haul fight" in the trade war with the United States, matching 25% tariffs on $16 billion worth of American goods. An editorial in Xinhua argued that the Chinese people are resilient and can endure economic crises. The hosts noted that this patriotic messaging suggests stormy economic weather ahead for Beijing.

china· tariffs· trade war· xi jinping· cnbc· xinhua· state media

2:25:24 gourmet, but it was like for some reason outrageously good. And they had all of everything... The guys kind of retired and they left it off to some new guys who actually I thought made it more modern. They changed the menu, they did all these things then it folded shortly thereafter couldn't keep up with them. They lost their mojo. Switching gears tariffs, tariffs now Was it Pachanik who had told me that Trump was doing this whole thing and bringing everyone together and getting North Korea, the Russians in China and everyone to play ball. And that the ZTE thing was very precarious and Trump had to jump in? Yeah, it was Pachanik. Yeah, it was Pachanik. Here's a report from CNBC... and you know part of Pachanik's premise was

2:26:12 Xi Jinping Zheng is going to have problems in the homeland with this huge middle class he's created when if the economy starts to falter. And it seems like there are some rumblings going on according to the CNBC report. Well that same state media editorial said that if the US wants to play hardball, Beijing will too and in fact Beijing matched the Trump administration's 25% tariffs on 16 billion dollars worth of goods, of course this time American goods at the tariffs are kicking in almost simultaneously with the US's at 1201 on August 23rd. Now, the list has been expanded from the original 114 items to 333 and that the new list and items include trucks vehicle engines bikes as well as farm equipment a China's Commerce Ministry criticized the u.s calling the us move unreasonable and said that the U.S is showing that it puts domestic law above

2:27:14 international law. Now, China's critics would likely find those comments ironic given that many of Beijing's trading partners as well as foreign firms have long been complaining that China itself protects its own markets and also unevenly applies its rules and regulations to the companies here in favor of Chinese firms. As for the state media it appears It appears as though the state media is trying to prepare the public for a long-haul fight. There's been 4,000 word commentary that has been running in all the main state papers entitled Declaration. This was initially penned by the official state news agency Xinhua.

2:28:00 And the article argues that the Chinese people have endured crises in the past but are resilient and quote no storm can prevent Chinese people from pursuing a good life. Ruh roh, well setting them up preparing them for the worst. That doesn't sound good No It sounds, in fact that coming from Chinese state media sounds like it could be a stormy weather ahead and they want to prepare everybody and get some patriotism going there to keep people in the fight. But I don't know... That doesn't sound good! No? My god what if Pachenik is right?! Well he could be. And there was some Bitcoin news that I found rather interesting

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Bakkt Bitcoin Platform and Institutional Crypto Adoption

A new venture called Bakkt, backed by the Intercontinental Exchange (ICE), Microsoft, and Starbucks, aims to create a regulated ecosystem for digital assets. The platform will provide warehousing for Bitcoin, allowing institutional investors and 401k plans to treat it as a commodity. The hosts compared the current crypto hype to past digital currencies like Beanz and Flooz.

bakkt· bitcoin· ice· nyse· microsoft· starbucks· cryptocurrency

2:28:52 I'll just play the report we can talk about is pretty short. The company is called BAKKT and the hope for crypto enthusiasts, is that this startup will help bring digital currencies to the masses it's backed by the New York Stock Exchange's parent company ICE and a slew of other big corporations To start Bakkt will provide trading and conversion of Bitcoin versus fiat currencies But the platform has big goals. It's aiming to become the infrastructure that helps institutionalize digital currencies on a large scale in addition to ice, bacht is backed by the likes of Microsoft Boston Consulting Group and Starbucks box could be used to convert Bitcoin and other digital coins into U.S dollars

2:29:33 that can be used at Starbucks stores which means yes you can buy your coffee or in my case iced coffee with crypto. Microsoft is helping with the cloud solutions to create the global ecosystem for digital assets and some big names in the finance world are also backing the venture including Fortress and Galaxy Digital, Pantera Capital and Susquehanna. The platform is expected to launch in November so let the countdown begin Michelle this and this is so disappointing first of all it's one of the only reports about this that I could really find on anything mainstream this was still CNBC marginal mainstream but they immediately take it too oh you can buy your latte with Bitcoin with crypto no that's not what this is about

2:30:15 This is the, I forget the guy's name. He's an entrepreneur and he bought the commodities exchange... Is it ICE? Is that the commodity? The ICE? Yeah yeah, I don't know. He bought it for a dollar You know 15 years ago, and now it's you know this 44 billion dollars in value flying around that thing and what he saw the opportunity is to create a Really? It's a warehousing solution so you can treat Bitcoin as a commodity That can be you know where you don't have the counterparty risk because that exchange swallows up that risk no different from any other commodities exchange And this is

2:30:55 brought into play so that institutions can now use Bitcoin specifically as a hedge or as an investment vehicle 401ks will be able to do it. I think it's rather big news and not just the oh you can buy your latte at Starbucks, thats not all what this is about I'm surprised that it's so low on the radar and misunderstood really. This guy is a superstar in business, just no traction except for the Bitcoin people. You know, I am always looking for parallels. Yeah? We had the Beanie Babies. The Beanie Babies yeah which i think still is... Do you remember... Good one! ...you can still trade Beanie Babies? Yeah

2:31:41 But I remember, I can't remember the name of all them. Do you remember the name of the Whoopi Goldberg one? Which were these alternate currencies before the 2000 dot-com crash. Oh shoot! I remember that! Beanz was one of them B E E N Z And then there was a couple other ones that had stupid names just like that. Flooz! Flooz! Flooz! Yes, that's one of em. Ha ha! Forgotten about Flooz Yeah, that's right. She got a whole bunch of stock worthless stock there was the iVillage guy started that Flues it was just a credit system and there were beans which means yeah beans I can't think of any others There is a slew of them and this seems kind of parallel to me whatever happened to be This is the flus of Bitcoin

CHAPTER 31 / 35 Discussion

Amsterdam Crackdown on Mass Tourism and Nightlife

Amsterdam is implementing measures to curb mass tourism and unruly behavior in its Red Light District, where residents complain of public intoxication and nuisances. With 20 million annual visitors for a city of fewer than one million, officials are attempting to "tame" the nightlife. The hosts shared personal anecdotes about the city's decline into a "shithole" due to overcrowding.

amsterdam· tourism· red light district· red light district· overcrowding· netherlands

2:32:34 Yeah, this guy has quite a reputation. So we'll see if he created the floor there's a lot of people do I'd like I like your comparison we were talking about tourism in Europe and how so many countries have just overrun with tourists now and And let a lot this happened in the 2008 financial crisis There was economies were just dying so they really opened up the floodgates and my complaint which was Accentuated a couple weeks ago by a report that Amsterdam is out of control I think the last time I was there even said you can't turn around anymore You can physically just on the street. There's people bumping India those bikes on the sidewalks ever it's too busy and Here's a report that corroborates this which is just kind of fun to listen to

2:33:22 what's happened to the beautiful city I once lived in. Amsterdam is famous for its nightlife which appeals to adult visitors but Amsterdam has now become the latest European city after Barcelona Dubrovnik and Venice to crack down on mass tourism. Amsterdam has fewer than a million residents but 20 million people visit the city every year and things get particularly bad at night when young drunk men go wild in a city where both prostitution That is incorrect. It is not legal it is Permitted but is absolutely not legal Joanna kisses tells us how Amsterdam is trying to tame the nightlife without killing it and just a quick warning this story has some adult themes Imagine trying to sleep to this outside your front door every night

2:34:16 When they start yelling, when they start puking in your potted plants. That's horrible! Welcome to Bert Nap's life He writes language textbooks for a living and he and his wife live in a cute house next to a church in Amsterdam's red light district If you're about to say, well what did you expect Mr. Knapp? Don't bother! He's already been told off by drunk guys in Elvis costumes all British tourists he says One he caught peeing in his mailbox I went up to one of them and asked him why don't you do that in your own hometown And he said, you are selling drugs. You're selling prostitution I buy it so He literally said you off because we buy your streets We are paying for it and just move go live elsewhere

2:35:09 Burt Knapp has been here for 40 years. In fact, people have lived in the red light district for hundreds of years The neighborhood's always been a draw for visitors but now it seems that caters only to tourists Think cannabis cafes instead of grocery stores, trinket shops with condom key rings instead of places where you can actually get keys made. Or the smell of a popular stoner treat replacing the fresh bread in bakeries. We have streets just selling waffles and Nutella and people coming here think that's our national food Yes! And this went on for quite awhile but it is a shithole there in Amsterdam It's no good no more. It's klote. Just klote

2:35:49 Yeah, I like it puking in my plants. It's a mess. I like the peeing in the mailbox. The guy in an Elvis costume they said. Guys in Elvis costumes? You see some Elvis peein' in your mailbox. Talk about a nightmare right there But I told you it was the Brits. You know, the Brits...you can't go... The Brits are out of control Well they can't do it in England anymore because either A.) They'll get knifed which is the main problem Wait until the Dutch start knifing you then you'll calm down Because something's going to happen Something has got to give She when I lived there it was 2000. It was already impossible Christina had a bedroom on the canal side and she would wake up regularly at 3 in the morning with people yelling and puking and just being nuisance Way to go Well speaking of drugs

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Truck Driver Shortage and Workplace Drug Testing

The trucking industry is facing a severe driver shortage, exacerbated by strict DOT drug testing regulations that prohibit marijuana use even in states where it is legal. Additionally, the hosts noted a trend of white-collar businesses in Austin implementing random drug testing for employees, questioning the legality and necessity of such policies for non-safety-sensitive roles.

truck drivers· drug testing· marijuana· dot regulations· labor shortage· austin

2:36:46 And this is something... I should mention before you say, well no go now. Speaking of drugs we have a problem with the certain vocations in our country in these United States. I can't even drive a golf cart! You're my hero and I'm amazed. I gotta bring up the one tough question here and that's the drug question We all know that a lot of people can't get truck drivers license because they can't pass drug tests Have you talked to any people there about what they're trying to do to address that. I know it's a delicate subject, but... You know and Bob it's something that also becomes more and more troublesome as marijuana continues to become legalized across the country so in California for example companies are having even harder time than ever finding people because DOT regulations say you cannot test positive

2:37:31 for marijuana or any type of drug, they'll do hair follicle tests and everything. So as that trend continues to sweep the nation in terms of legalization for recreational use that will just be another layer to this ongoing shortage in the industry." So I can kind of understand you want a drug test drivers although it's obviously becoming problematic but I'm hearing more and more companies just white collar businesses that are instituting random drug testing And, you know it's kind of become one of those things. Like well, it's on the HR menu now, you have to check it off everyone has to be drug tested I think this is a bad idea! I don't think its true Oh... Well.. I've never heard such thing actually happen I can only speak from my own experience and people here in Austin three different people that have companies or organizations

2:38:27 that are now implementing random drug testing. Drug testing for all new employees and random drug testing for all employees in general I'm identifying, maybe it's just Austin but i'm identifying this as something taking place. I am not even sure how legal is Is it legal? Well that was kind of a guess...I don't know. Hmm well I've never heard of this Really I've heard of it, but I hadn't heard of it. Yeah, totally news to me...I mean I've heard of drug testing but this is news to me that they're just doing what you said and I don't know if we thought you got a truck driver's license from the DMV? They don't do drug testing! No, the companies that employ the truck drivers do the drug testing. Well, that would be reasonable thing to do Right But now there's a truck driver shortage Who knew?! All these guys are stoned

CHAPTER 33 / 35 Discussion

Mendocino Complex Fire and Airport Security Technology

The Mendocino Complex Fire in California has become the largest in state history, reportedly impacting marijuana cultivation areas. Meanwhile, at the Oakland and Seattle airports, the TSA is beta-testing futuristic security scanners from a company called Analogic. The devices, which resemble jet engines with blue halo lights, are expected to eventually allow passengers to keep liquids in their bags.

mendocino complex fire· seattle airport· tsa· analogic· airport security· technology

2:39:28 I don't know most of the truck drivers use benzene or something to stay awake. Yeah, and that's it But so they can list the radio. No, I think they're probably when when they get to the destination I mean I can understand that you've been driving for eight hours All right. I'm at the truck stop. Let me smoke a doobie and go to sleep They sleep in the cab Hmm yeah all right How were the fires there John? How are the fires? I'm in Seattle. Oh, that's right and you wouldn't know these fires up here are...I should mention a couple of things as I'm up here there are fires in Nanaimo on Vancouver Island which is apparently very dry the other fires they're record breakers that the Medicino Fire something like you know you always say well it was 100 acres to 200 acres thousand years 425 square miles yeah that's pretty big

2:40:24 It's the biggest ever. And that area that is burning? Loaded with pot fields! Oh no! Uh oh... I see a price increase in my future. I think go long if you can and somebody has to stop. Go long on pot stocks, yeah that's always a winner! That's gonna happen. Meanwhile i was mentioning this to you before we started the show which is that the Seattle airport is packed everybody who would normally go touristy uh in San Francisco they've all bumped their game up to come up here instead

2:41:04 And it's a nightmare. The airport is incredibly congested. It's, it's a very small airport really? It's not, it's not a big airport if I recall. Relatively small. Yeah. It's about the size of the Oakland Airport. Yeah exactly. Maybe just shade bigger but its um... The wait for the shuttle bus to the car rental facility because used to be right there you just walk across the street and your at that car rental place but the TSA ended that uh.. Is umm It was about an hour away to get to the shuttle because this line was around the corner. It was unbelievable and this is for vacation? Yeah, these are all vacationers a lot of kids and The line did at the Oakland Airport to get on the plane The number people that had the special you're boarding for the families with kids yeah Which I came over I came up with JC. Oh, I bet it was half the plane yeah

2:42:01 Now, the thing that's interesting I don't have the exact name. I think it's called Analogic which actually says anal logic. They had one of these new pieces of gear at the Oakland airport they were beta testing. Ah! One of the keep your liquids in your bag gears? Well i dont know what is but im telling you this is the most futuristic looking device I have ever seen It has got cool blue lights, halo lights like a Like a lowrider? It looks like a jet engine. Yeah, I've seen it. It's got the lines of a jet engine with a bunch of halo lights and... Nice. Beautiful! It's beautiful And did you put your bags through it? No they wouldn't let me they had that for some group They wouldn't le- I asked them specifically can I go over there in that line no Shut up slave! I did have TSA pre so was easy enough to get through but I wanted to go over show you examine it closer But their NO! You cant do it

2:42:56 And here's another one. Didn't you say I'm a journalist? It's okay. Yeah, could have... Here's another one everybody that all the TSA people like because I was enthralled with this device is beautiful every TSA I said this thing must cost of fortune or it looks like we know what costs $300,000. I don't know it did such looks yeah And I just said, commenting to the TSA people as I went through it. That thing must have cost a fortune! They go, I don't know... Well that thing must have cost a fortune! No, they didn't even care! It's just a bunch of grunters. It was unbelievable." Well maybe the technology is not so spectacular and its big black box

2:43:40 No, they said it was not like this big white box. Maybe it really doesn't do anything? No they all said that they've worked at me I did get one guy say yeah does a lot more So apparently digs like a cat scan or so I don't know what we need another scare then We need another scare to start sales rolling. We need something Yeah, well they gotta test it first. So after they test it they'll all be installed It'll make things look a lot better because when you compare to the shoddy looking x-ray machines The bags go through now. It's like night and day that I was looking at what a piece of junk It's got them You know Louvers on it is some squares made out of sheet metal. It's nothing going on with those slits cut in it for ventilation

CHAPTER 34 / 35 Discussion

James O'Brien Brexit Commentary and Colorado Hailstorm

LBC presenter James O'Brien criticized "Brexiteers" using colorful language, including terms like "pantomime toffs." In other news, a violent hailstorm in Colorado Springs killed zoo animals and injured 14 people with softball-sized hail. The hosts also noted a story about two teenagers who failed to carjack a vehicle because they could not operate a manual transmission.

james o'brien· lbc· brexit· colorado springs· hailstorm· climate change

2:44:26 It's like an old IBM PC. You probably still put the PCI cards in the back, something like that? Yeah We got about a couple more minutes I just have a couple shorties maybe you have something short as well I do have an ISO of James O'Brien somebody sent me a James O'Brien clip where they talk about... Who is James O'Brien? James O'Brien is that is the talker on LBC Ah yes okay the British talk show operation. And he is the one that, he's a remainer and he's extremely sharp and has kind of routine he does with everybody that is almost very insulting, sarcastic, and he's dangerous guy even though somebody sent me a link to one his little interviews

2:45:23 Brexit material that we can talk about, I'll put that in the next show. But you have an ISO of him kind of naming the types of people who are Brexiteers. These charlatans these pantomime toffs these spiv's and these fag packet fascists what they've done to Britain? Fag packet! What did he say? Fag packet fascist?! Well i got charlatan It sounds like fag bag something. Let me pull these charlatans, these pantomime toffs- Pantomime toffs? These spiv's and these fag packet fascists. What's in these fag packet fascist? Fag packet fascists... That means a packet of cigarettes but I'm not quite sure how it translates to fascist Well they've done to Britain! Nah.. I don't know i think you'll like my ISO more that I selected for the end of the show BINGE MORE Come on

2:46:15 Okay, it's your word. He doesn't have a is not conclusive it is something in the years is better Thank you. Let's check in with the latest news from CNN, golf ball size hail coming from the sky. Killing people? Yeah killing people, killing animals. A zoo in Colorado Springs will be closed today after a powerful hailstorm killed two birds and injured 14 people on Monday. Look at this! Those are chunks of hail Some of the size of softballs there. Look at that! It sent the bears in the Cheyenne Mountain Zoo scrambling for cover their enclosure More than 3,000 zoo visitors were evacuated to a nearby school Five of the injured were taken to hospital for treatment Is it August in Colorado as well? I believe...I believe it is. It has reached August. I just can't believe the size of the water explosions there from the hail That's violent weather

2:47:13 And you know, I mean some people don't think that climate change is necessarily happening. No! Boo! It's climate change John They've had hail that size in the Midwest for hundreds of years Yes it's climate change It's August You know? It's crazy It's crazy to have a hail in August We have hail in Texas all the time And it's bad. You have to... people have blankets in their cars, if your car is outside and starts to hail you want to throw the blankets over your car so it doesn't get dented Yeah Climate change No we don't have that in California Millennials strike again!

2:47:51 Greenhills with this crime tracker alert and the arrest of a 15 year old than 17 year old for trying to Jack carjack two separate people So the first one happens just before 630 Wednesday night. The teens run up to a woman in her car They open the doors on both sides in the hill center parking garage off Hillsborough Pike Well, she yelled for her for them to get out of the vehicle As they attempted puller from the car she screamed and held down her horn and they ran. Smart stuff, right? Yeah! It was an hour later they approached a woman at the Kroger on 21st Avenue South they grabbed her keys out of her hand after a few seconds they get out of the car and run away They couldn't drive a stick shift with manual transmission Damn! Damn this vehicle it has three pedals I don't know how to operate it Oh... that's very ironic Mm-hmm

CHAPTER 35 / 35 Discussion

Yemen Cholera Epidemic and Show Outro

The World Health Organization (WHO) warned of a third wave of cholera in Yemen, exacerbated by years of civil war and malnutrition. The hosts criticized mainstream media for ignoring the humanitarian crisis in Yemen while focusing on their own perceived status as "enemies of the people." The show concludes with a remix of Alex Jones's "gay frogs" rant and final sign-offs.

yemen· cholera· world health organization· civil war· media criticism· alex jones

2:48:45 Let's see if I got, I've got nothing really that is any better than that. Well just have some depressing news that no one is talking about. The World Health Organization warns Yemen may be on the brink of a major new cholera epidemic Lisa Schlein reports from Geneva. The WHO fears this new outbreak may be worse then previous ones because of the weakened condition of the population following more than three years a civil war. Yemen has had two major waves of cholera epidemics in recent years WHO expert Peter Salama says, a steady increase in cases over the past weeks suggest Yemen may be on the cusp for the third wave he says people are at great risk getting ill because they are severely malnourished what we're likely to see is even

2:49:32 higher death rates among the cholera cases that do occur because people just don't have the physical resources to fight the disease any longer. WHO is appealing to the warring parties to stop fighting for three days so it can begin an oral cholera vaccination campaign in northern Yemen on Saturday It's really, it's so sad that journalists are all up in arms about being attacked and fake news enemy of the people but they don't really report any news. And this is a serious issue that is going on here and maybe because they don't want to... oops! Maybe its because they don't want to have to go into the true history of Yemen I think it was under Obama administration we were droning there left and right

2:50:18 Yeah. Now, we have a big hand in this and it's not the applause kind of hand. It's not the please clap kind of hand No I'd like to know more about it Well you're not gonna get it from the news media here Nope! Nope And I don't think we have any producers there But if they are let us know And that's it for our program for today The 9th of August 2018 We return on Sunday with another episode More deconstruction for you You never know what's going to happen But we have our eye on different balls. I got Apple in my sights, still very curious. Yes well you gotta stay on the apple and see what's going on We'll continue to do that as i come to you from downtown Austin Texas capital of the drone star state In FEMA region number six on the governmental maps in the 5x9 Cluedio in the common law condo in the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from the Silicon Valley Pacific Northwest

2:51:20 the home of Amazon and Microsoft. I'm John C. Dvorak We return on Sunday with another episode of The Best Podcast in the Universe Remember us at dvorak dot org slash NA Until then, adios mofos! Now there it is, the gay bomb Look it up for yourself What do you think tap water is? It's a gay bomb baby And I'm not saying people didn't naturally have homosexual feelings. I'm not even getting into it, quite frankly. I mean give me a break! You think I am like shocked by some of your bashing because I don't like gay people? I don't like them putting chemicals in the water that turn the friggin' frogs gay!! Do you understand that?! Ugh, ugh, serious crap!!! I'm sick of being social engineered, its NOT FUNNY!!!! Me and Alex Jones... We've got a thing

2:52:31 How dare you not let us suck your blood? And we know that it's wrong, but it's much too strong. Let it go now! You saw me in bed with Putin getting peed on or something He gets online around the same time 11am We're all gonna pee I kill my kids Outrageous friends

2:53:12 And if that isn't Nazi Germany, I'll kiss your booty. We did it on the shop. The media, talking mainly about square titter every single day to the American people's.

2:54:03 Ever! Talk about squirtitter. The media I think if you work out and work out really hard to start developing muscles while listening to the show, Yeah? You can just listen to the show and your muscles grow. They just grow. Ooh yes. The media, yeah. Talking mainly about squirtitter... I don't know what to say. Lots of conversations has been remote because We did it on the shop. We did it on the shop. Talking mainly about square-titter. In the morning... You'll never win! You'll be gone! Never win!

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