Episode 1044 · Sunday, 24 June 2018

Free Scooter!

A Department of Justice employee leads a public shaming of the DHS Secretary while the Pentagon prepares for orbital defense and the Space Force.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1044

About this episode

Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen faced a coordinated public shaming by a Department of Justice employee and activists while dining at a Mexican restaurant in Washington, D.C. The incident, involving recorded audio of crying children, coincided with a media surge regarding the Flores Settlement Agreement and the Trump administration's zero-tolerance border policy. Analysis of the Department of Justice Inspector General report by Michael Horowitz further suggests that former FBI Director James Comey acted to protect his reputation during the 2016 election cycle.

Global tensions rise as the World Health Organization warns that 600,000 people are at risk during the battle for the Hodeidah port in Yemen, while reports of systematic torture by the United Arab Emirates emerge. Domestically, President Trump directed the Pentagon to establish a Space Force as a sixth military branch, navigating the constraints of the 1967 Outer Space Treaty. In California, San Jose officials moved to regulate motorized rental scooters, prompting technical discussions on how users are bypassing GPS and alarm systems on Bird units to convert them for private use. Meanwhile, the European Parliament advanced a controversial copyright bill featuring a link tax and mandatory content filtering.

Technical audiology experiments with the Widex hearing aid system reveal the high-markup nature of digital signal processing chips used for bionic hearing. The show also explores the Zen TV Experiment and Jaron Lanier's warnings about the addictive feedback loops of social media algorithms. Sir Chris, Knight of the Vortex Ring State, joins the value-for-value network as the show concludes with a musical tribute to Ayn Rand and mac and cheese.


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CHAPTER 01 / 43 Discussion

Thorens Turntable Discovery and 78 RPM Record Collecting

A Thorens turntable was rediscovered in an obscure closet, prompting a discussion on the mechanics of vintage audio formats. The conversation covers the collection of 78 RPM Broadway show tune albums from the 1920s and 1930s, which often contain recordings never re-released on modern formats. Technical details regarding 16, 33, 45, and 78 RPM speeds are explored, noting that higher rotation speeds were originally necessary to maintain audio fidelity in mechanical recordings.

thorens· turntable· 78 rpm· vinyl records· analog audio· broadway show tunes

00:00 Machine guns in space! Watching the Druids at Stonehenge and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in downtown Austin, Tejas. In The Cluedio! In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where guess what? I found my Thorin's turntable. I'm John C DeVore It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! IN THE MORNING! One of those things that it's just not that easy to misplace you would think

00:40 The thing weighs a ton. That's what I'm saying, it's a turntable or is there clothing piled on top of it? No, it was stuffed in an obscure closet that's never used by someone cleaning up one day. Someone! Yeah She who shall not be named Well thats definitely a she And there it was I've been looking for it because i've got, I've been collecting uh not to an extreme or not like nuts but I've been collecting and for the archives some 78s if I see for example oh nice what I like to collect is albums. I like to collect 78 albums which are a big giant kind of like it's not a box but just kind of this weird usually has about eight records maybe more inside

01:31 And they're for Broadway show tunes. Oh, nice! Because you get to collect stuff from the 20s and 30s that never got re-released They just do this show again and that's the album that comes out so you don't get to hear the original stuff from the 30s especially but I had couldn't find can play of any these things because i haven't got a turntable that... 78? So The Thorns does but The Thorns also has four speeds What's that what's always 16? Yes, yeah. Yeah happen to have a bunch of I collected Sixteen rpm hypnosis record you realize there's a whole bunch of people who are listening to this program now and are saying oh

02:18 1678 what what are these esoteric numbers people don't know what I'm talking about? as originally records came out at 78 rpm and Then of course we've developed or the 33 and 30 45 formats which dominate Now they don't dominate it all because everything's a CD, but hey What why were they 78 RPM and why weren't why did I mean it's not like that technology to slow It down was that hard But why did they start with such a high RPM to start with oh They get they couldn't get the fidelity up high enough. Oh, okay? Okay, so yeah I mean it's just in nature like a bad to do mechanical recording as a bandwidth issue basically Yeah, yeah Go ahead 16 is more or less than 96 killer or 48 killer her you know that real low no No, that's the flack It's the flack of the analog world not deflect because is not his very lossy

03:14 Oh, okay. What would his only voice is only voice so you have these group I've never heard any of these records are now no it's the GP 3 remember that format the cell phone format yeah I think like GSM something anyway oh no but anyways this is very Compressed and so there you have it. Yeah, I'd have one story I had one experience with 78 records which I'll tell briefly my parents had a whole stack of them Not in jackets just stacked on top of each other and we think I've talked about that old Furniture piece We had where the turntable was in the middle down a little bit And you lifted up the lid and you put the record on yeah, and you broke them all no I pick up this stack of 78s not really I'm at six or seven years old

CHAPTER 02 / 43 Discussion

Michael Horowitz OIG Report and James Comey Testimony

The Department of Justice Office of the Inspector General report by Michael Horowitz led to congressional hearings characterized by political posturing. Representative Jamie Raskin criticized the committee for focusing on Hillary Clinton's emails while humanitarian issues persisted at the U.S. border. Analysis of former FBI Director James Comey’s actions suggests his late-election announcements were a "cover your ass" maneuver driven by shifting expectations of the 2016 election outcome.

michael horowitz· oig report· james comey· hillary clinton· c-span· jamie raskin

04:03 All you know because of course they were they weren't aligned perfectly so all the edges broke off Yeah, yeah. That's exactly the sound my parents made too Exactly well there was quite a lot of stuff to look at The past few days I was watching a lot of C-SPAN Initially you know that hearings about About the oh what the oig omg report. Oh, it's hearing the horror was here Yes The Horowitz hearings which is really just a spot for everybody to you know as always just no pander and posture Signal virtue yeah It wasn't really anything great to get out of it You know cuz that one clip from the whole thing you got want I?

04:57 Yeah, there's a douchebag named Raskin who is I think he's the Democrat. You know that things were held to get to the bottom of their conclusions and do kind of bring out some of the details that they may have not had so every... So the Democrats weren't interested in this because as far as they're concerned this was supposed to be about the Hillary... No it's nothing burger! about the Hillary investigations. And so you end up with a bunch of disinterested Democrats that don't care, unless it has to do with the Russians but did the other one went in two directions? What about the Russians and the other ones what Raskin had to say now, dude, don't forget this was a hearing on the Hillary email. The gentleman from Maryland Professor Raskin

05:47 Mr. Chairman, thank you very much. Mr Horwitz our committee seems deeply lost in the force today a lot of my constituents are baffled why at a moment when the US government is separating thousands of children and parents at the border In a way that threatens to make us an international pariah The Judiciary Committee in oversight committee are doing nothing about this scandalous policy but rather seem stuck in a time warp doing another investigation into an investigation into an investigation of Hillary Clinton's emails. You know, just before the I think the first hearing started there were protestors of The Kids In Cages with their kids you know crying kids it was like this is this what children sound like signs and they had to be removed before they could start as some other

06:36 I like the way Raskin says this, we're making ourselves international pariahs. Oh well hello! Give me a break... I mean what's going on in Europe with all those guys dropping dead in the water you know boats overturning and all the rest of it? Hot details man. Nobody cares about this. Details man. My takeaway from just two days of testimony was here's what I think happened with Comey You know Comey was clearly complicit in trying to Make sure that there was no friction for Hillary Clinton to win and so we have the first statement you know the change from gross negligence to man that was careless and As time progressed then we had about a week before the election Comey sees the writing on the wall. Holy crap Trump is gonna win I'm going to jail

07:29 And that's why he was like, oh yeah some more emails we're still doing some stuff. It was cover your ass time That's the way I see it Well the other interpretation would be just the opposite Okay and it could have been this way I still say it was cover your ass, but he could have been thinking like this because I don't know anybody at that point a couple of weeks before the election that felt that Trump was going to win. It got more and more clear that Hillary was gonna win so he said well I should do this because It's not gonna make any difference. She is going to win, she is gonna kick ass Everyone says she is going to win so I can do this without anybody worrying about it and then if anyone brings up afterwards because we did reopen it Then I'm clear, I am covered So he is covering his ass You got that part right? I think the other parts wrong

CHAPTER 03 / 43 Discussion

FBI Text Message Emojis and Loretta Lynch Tarmac Meeting

The investigation into FBI text messages revealed that emojis are stored as Unicode, suggesting that full context of communications between officials like Peter Strzok and Lisa Page remains partially obscured. New claims suggest the FBI may have leaked Attorney General Loretta Lynch’s flight plan to Bill Clinton to facilitate their controversial 2016 tarmac meeting in Phoenix. This coordination challenges the previous narrative that the encounter was a mere coincidence.

fbi· emojis· unicode· loretta lynch· bill clinton· tarmac meeting

08:23 Well, what I'm not quite sure then. What was the you said that you thought he'd oh god there Trump's gonna win There's no doubt about it. I don't think that's true There was no evidence that Trump was going to win to anybody especially somebody in government like Comey Maybe he knew something we didn't No, he didn't know anything. That's the sound of it. I mean it could be an explanation but still cover your ass there is no doubt about that A couple other things Oh! I learned from one of our producers that you know I was bitching about the full disclosure of the text and said there are no emojis so we really don't have context around it He pointed out to me if you look at the printed versions of emails The emojis are actually in Unicode

09:08 So it would take, and you know you can I guess you can bing the Unicode codes and then the emoji will show up. You know which one it was But someone needs to do that. We need to have, you know like with all the emojis I want to know if there was an eggplant emoji used at any point? Every time he said Trump, he put a little turd on it. Exactly! I want to know what the emojis were. I think is important for the American public to know. It should have been put in as evidence. I mean, it seems to me you don't take the emojis out. That's part of the message and then what else did I learn about this? I did learn that it was apparently the FBI that leaked Loretta Lynch's flight plan to Bill Clinton so he could conveniently be at the same GA terminal as she was at the same time. That apparently came from, uh... From-from the FBI who talked everybody all the time apparently. They really don't care. You know, that's funny you bring that up because I never thought—I mean The coincidence was a coincidence but I never thought that the coincidence

10:15 Was a setup oh, hmm. I'm no I mean I never thought, no. I probably thought it was a set up of some sort but I never thought about how it was set up and David didn't even give that any thoughts that's very interesting. It's terrible actually that they would do that. Yeah well this the FBI... Well as I said on the last show every organization today they're all shit you know? The government is no different it's just bigger and less efficient than your shit company We have a two-man op, or three man... let's say 3.5 man operation. Even worse shit!

CHAPTER 04 / 43 Discussion

Government Bureaucracy and Gavin Newsom Work Schedule

A discussion on government inefficiency highlights California Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom's admission that he only visits his office once a week. The conversation posits that large government organizations suffer from "job padding," where employees with excessive free time engage in internal office politics and harassment of colleagues. This systemic boredom is described as a primary driver of bureaucratic dysfunction.

gavin newsom· california· lieutenant governor· bureaucracy· job padding

10:57 The thing about the, I don't think we're that bad. No, we're not that bad but... The bigger operations because I work for the government as you recall. You have a situation it's harder to get rid of people so they stay there longer and there's a lot of people is there's a lot of what would call job padding but there are positions where there's not that much work to do which is kind of with everything that's going on here in California The guy running for, Gavin Newsom running for governor. They caught him saying yeah I only go in once a week as lieutenant governor now and then going once a week there's really not that much to do because there is not that much to do in some of these positions and so these guys...I knew this for a fact at the air pollution district those guys would just scheme against other employees and make them miserable

11:49 And they had a lot of time to do it. I always tell people you weren't a part of that because there's people with time on their hands and they got more time on their hands than you have. Yes, very dangerous. Yeah. And if time to make your life horrible if they want to. Yeah. Because they got nothing else to do. Alright, so I think the most entertaining place to be in the past few days was Twitter with a background of any news channel didn't matter which one because the acting was supreme. I saw real method acting which is very effective worked extremely well. There were some... Hey! My butt hurts You want to tell me that Cummings is not a method actor? Cumming's is a method actor man

CHAPTER 05 / 43 Discussion

Elijah Cummings and Child Internment Camp Rhetoric

Representative Elijah Cummings delivered an emotional speech condemning the Trump administration's border policy, specifically using the term "child internment camps." The rhetoric compared current detention centers to Japanese internment camps from World War II. The segment concludes with a critique of Cummings' delivery, noting a verbal slip where he referred to the president as "President Klump."

elijah cummings· child internment camps· donald trump· border policy· selma

12:40 That guy is good. He started, he was... I don't remember exactly... We're talking about Elijah Cummings? Elijah Cummings yeah and this was... Probably from South Carolina or Georgia. Hey man! He walked across the bridge bro. And he was run over on the bridge i think in Selma That's I think that's his claim. It probably happened so he started it yeah, he started his but I think this is before the The horror which trial actually then this was what he had to say about the kids in cages And I thought you know like I liked his facial Expressions I thought I had to take out some of the pauses just so we could play this and have it You know be any normal length

13:30 And he was really, really wrapping it up and then he messes it up at the end. You know as an entertainer I can tell you that's very very shit when you flub the punchline We sent letter after letter, letter after letter asking these committees to investigate The Trump administration policy which is now resulting in child internment camps. That's what I said, child internment camps but we have gotten no response Look even if you believe people entered our country illegally Even if you believe they have no valid asylum claims In their own country Even if you believe immigration should be halted entirely We all

14:20 should be able to agree that in the United States of America We will not intentionally separate children from their parents. We will not do that, we are better than that! I'm like yeah he's getting there and he's got all the little memes in there and of course we never separated parents from children, children from parents in America, see we never do that... We are so much better! Yes, we're bett- We should be able to agree that we will not keep kids in child internment camps. What exactly is the difference between what and I should have looked this up, internment camp must be a definition

15:02 No, I don't think so. No? Well i think it's a permanent installation where you move people and you keep them there for a long time. Means putting a person in prison or other kind of detention... Oh! I know what he is referring to. I'm just reading the... Yeah, so he's making it sound like the Japanese internment camps who by the way were Americans who were in the camps. They weren't different they were not illegal aliens. Indefinitely and hidden away from public view. What country is that this is the United States of America we now have reports of parents being deported preach but the Trump administration is keeping their children here 2018 in America. We do not need legislation, this is a policy... Oh we don't need legislation! See and understand this was a policy invented

15:57 implemented and executed by President Donald Trump. Another great use of a word there, executed? And so in conclusion Mr Chairman we need you those children need you I'm talking directly to my Republican colleagues We need you to stand up to President Klump. Oh, damn so close! So he goes all the way through the videos and says you gotta stand it to president klump oh my god We had

CHAPTER 06 / 43 Discussion

ABC News Report on Guatemalan Child Separation

An ABC News segment featuring Cecilia Vega and Alex Perez followed a 10-year-old boy named Samuel as he was reunited with his family in Guatemala. The report revealed the boy had been separated from his father eight months prior, indicating that the practice of family separation was occurring well before the recent media surge. The timeline suggests the current public outcry was a coordinated media event rather than a response to a brand-new policy.

abc news· cecilia vega· guatemala· child separation· immigration

16:51 There were so many television events, but the back and forth on Twitter just the hatred is something that I'll have to come back to in this show. I caught a clip on ABC as they were you know ABC all the networks are just covering this for at least the first 15 or more minutes of their newscast They really didn't have anything new to bring to the table So they started digging up dredging up stories and other things so I got this clip And there's something there's an anomaly in here that I want to see if you can spot And when I heard it, this is about the Guatemalan kid. This is an interesting ABC spotlight on the Guat Kid

17:28 Cecilia Vega leading us off. It was last night here we reported on a young boy separated from his father eight months ago, left back here in the U.S., after his father was deported. Well tonight eight months later, we're there as he says goodbye to his foster family here in the US and then arrives home hours later in Guatemala. The trauma on his face all over again ABC's Alex Perez tonight on The Journey It's nearly 5 in the morning and 10-year old Samuel is already at the airport. After a late night of packing up his teddy bear and art supplies, he's about to board a flight from Michigan back home to his native Guatemala... ...to reunite with this family he hasn't seen in eight months. Samuel with his foster parents who are still fostering other children so we agreed not to show their faces. You have a lot of love for your family in the United States?

18:19 Always, always, always. They and their own three children have been caring for someone since the boy's father illegally crossed the border with him and they were apprehended immigration officials immediately separating them his father deported already back in Guatemala I had to be honest i didn't catch it I know that I don't think anybody did this was eight months ago why was where was the big stink eight months ago Well, they made it sound like this just happened. This is what's going on but this was eight So in other words they were doing the separation thing eight months ago. Yeah we know minimum yeah We know it was actually years ago as you point out last show now This had started years ago and has been going on and this is a poignant story from

CHAPTER 07 / 43 Discussion

Flores Settlement Agreement and Border Policy History

The legal history of family separation at the border is traced back to the 1997 Flores Settlement Agreement, which mandated that children be kept in the least restrictive setting possible. While the Obama administration faced similar challenges in 2014, the Trump administration's "zero tolerance" policy increased the frequency of separations. The current political environment is described as an "infinite loop" where legal constraints prevent both detention and release of family units.

flores agreement· family separation· barack obama· donald trump· zero tolerance

19:09 eight months ago and everybody's making only been making a fuss for what, a week? Because of somebody bringing it to the fore. Because it was well planned. It was a scam! I think Ann Coulter is right when she said it was rigged as a setup And that's pretty apparent. I mean, there are a lot of things planned we have a big March taking place on the 30th that still going to go ahead as planned just as a background or the way I explained it on the last episode because we don't really need to go all the way into if there is a law or consent decree you know what was happening is way back when this started in 87 and revisited 97 again in 2016

19:50 is that kids were being put into jail cells or holding cells or internment camps, whatever you want to call it with their parents after crossing illegally. And it was in California that the District Court of Southern California started up this process which eventually became the Flores Agreement And that said, this is dangerous for the kids. You have to separate the kids from the dangers if they can't be in a holding cell And so the idea was to make sure kids were safe. So kids then got separated and this has been ongoing for a long time, of course with certainly with the Obama administration I haven't really looked at Bush but maybe he wasn't doing that much it wasn't as much as the Trump administration because as he promised zero tolerance and you could have seen it coming and then of course Sessions announced it and so then there was a reason I'm sure more more kids were separated from their parents no doubt about

20:51 And what everyone wants is, well we have to... We can't separate the children from the parents. That's a bad thing! So now Trump has signed an executive order which is in itself interesting because it looks like You know, first of all space where we're going to put kids or anybody. We're gonna use army bases it looks like but he also specifically in that executive order addresses the Flores Agreement and needs permission from the Southern District of California, the Ninth Circuit whatever it is To adjust or change the Flores Agreement And I can tell you what's gonna happen next It'll be well wait a minute now kids are with their parents. It's a dangerous situation there There's this criminals, and it's gonna be it's like a loop We've created an infinite loop a permanent loop so yeah But of course this is not really well

21:41 This is just about finding more ways to get people to go come out and vote. And in fact, it's starting to show up the only way we can stop this is the vote. Let's bring out the vote. Vote them out! Oh yes but what was done so effectively and what is interesting to me...and of course I have feelings you know? I feel bad for the kids but I can also rationalize You know one of the main things you know here's how my brain is trained. You know the most dangerous part of flying is driving to the airport, so you have risk Risk and numbers And you know what's happening with kids at the border or you know the kids underneath I-35 here in Austin? There's a whole bunch of ways you can look at stuff if you want take it to an extreme. I got another one okay

CHAPTER 08 / 43 Discussion

Yemen Civil War and Hodeidah Port Conflict

The battle for the Red Sea port of Hodeidah in Yemen has put over 600,000 people at risk, according to the World Health Organization. Reports from the Associated Press indicate that detainees in southern Yemen have faced systematic torture and sexual abuse at secret facilities run by the United Arab Emirates. The lack of domestic media coverage for the Yemen crisis is contrasted with the intense focus on U.S. border issues.

yemen· hodeidah· world health organization· united arab emirates· civil war

22:26 These are short clips. If you wanna take it to the extreme, everyone's moaning and groaning about these kids even though that by the way, the Guatemala kid eight months ago was put into apparently a very nice foster home that he enjoyed and thrived learning English in anyway is kind of is very strange story but let's play this up. This is not really off the mark if you want to talk about being sympathetic and heartfelt Play this. Yemen update! Oh, I gotcha. Pro-government forces in Yemen say they've scored a new gain in the battle for the Red Sea port of Hodeidah They say they captured the southern runway at the city's airport today Meanwhile workers with the World Health Organization issued a new warning about the consequences of the fighting WHO is deeply concerned that there increased fighting in Al-Hodeida

23:21 Al-Hodeidah, this fighting puts people, more than 600 thousand people at risk in Al-Hodeidah. And we're deeply concerned that the risk that this has for the port 70% of people in Yemen rely on a port for food and medicines Also today, the Associated Press reported that hundreds of detainees in southern Yemen were tortured and sexually abused last March. It happened at a secret facility run by the United Arab Emirates. There you go! Yeah beautiful. I don't hear anybody complaining about this. You're talking about separating a child from his parents is one thing but having them

23:58 you know, blowed up and just tortured and sexually abused in a systematic way that's been going on for months and months and months. And the United States is behind it. But Yemen doesn't vote in the midterms? Well they don't vote Democrat, that's true. Now some of the truth did slip out even on CNN. Is it Baldwin, I think? No, not Brooke Baldwin. Yeah maybe it is she was with ah yes uh Democratic Senator Tammy Baldwin no relation from Wisconsin and she asked this question about this about the long term um about this happening long term even in the Obama administration which I thought was good

CHAPTER 09 / 43 Discussion

Senator Tammy Baldwin Questioned on Obama-Era Detentions

CNN anchor Brooke Baldwin questioned Senator Tammy Baldwin regarding her silence during the 2014 surge of migrant children in cages under the Obama administration. The Senator struggled to provide a direct answer, pivoting to the current broken immigration system. The exchange highlights the partisan nature of the current border outrage and the historical consistency of detention center conditions across different administrations.

tammy baldwin· brooke baldwin· cnn· barack obama· immigration detention

24:40 But the senator was caught off guard. Here's a question for Democrats, because you hear the president now on a lot of topics and this one included looking back to previous administrations well they should have done more right? And so as so many people in this country are certainly outraged by the cages and thermal blankets in facilities housing these kids You know they were all there in 2014 under President Obama. And my question to you, Senator Baldwin is did you speak up against them then? You know on this issue that we get into a moment where were making progress and then when it stalled I hope Brooke says please address the question. We turn around i think

25:26 all need to continue to be focused on it and press it through. The American people need confidence that we can solve problems, nobody believes that we have an immigration system that works. It is broken, it needs fixing but we've just got to resolve to do But were you worried about it then? Did you raise your voice under the Obama administration? In numbers of cases, usually I remember a constituent who was in detention at the border arguably very inappropriately and we raised our voice in that instance and many others. We've got to do this now in unison

26:11 enough to do it case by case or senator or house member by house member we've got to resolve to fix this issue. Thanks for not answering the question but I thought that was pretty brave! By the way, I'm giving you borderline clip of the day. Now, I want you to be Brooke Baldwin. And I'll be the other Baldwin and I'm going answer the same question. I'm gonna do it the way she should have done it. Senator, but senator were you as vocal during the Obama administration when the same thing was happening? Were you as vocal then? Were you standing up for the children then senator? Well tell ya'll the problem... The answer that is no! There's a good reason for that

26:55 The reason is, is because we were not made as aware of it and we had no idea about these cages. And I'm appalled by what happened during the Obama administration now its just gotten worse. But you'll never be invited to another Obama thing! Sure I won. She could have done that, she could've instead of trying to flub it out by being you know an Obama bot yeah she could have just taken the offensive that's what you know was very easy to do and she didn't do it so she's a loser. And the constituents of Wisconsin will be happy to have you John C Dvorak as their senator I'm sure? That'd be much better! Now this whole- what really ratcheted this up and now we're at a position in beginning of this week

CHAPTER 10 / 43 Discussion

Rachel Maddow and Tender Age Shelters Report

MSNBC host Rachel Maddow became visibly emotional while reading a breaking Associated Press report about "tender age" shelters for babies and young children in South Texas. The report detailed the existence of at least three facilities managed by the Trump administration. The segment was handed off to Lawrence O'Donnell, who continued the coverage of the emotional and political fallout from the shelter revelations.

rachel maddow· lawrence o'donnell· tender age shelters· associated press· msnbc

27:42 where we, you know the stage is set now it's a game of chicken and one of the things I was until the executive order came out yesterday. I was initially going to say isn't it interesting how lawmakers are...you know you heard Cummings people are crying on TV this just crazy stuff this year and by the way You know, while all these things are happening people are freaking out about it. There's incredible things being said and you know there is just too much to cover but if these Democrats truly because it really was... And the Republicans who also did the same thing. Oh they hate Trump Republicans yeah they never trusted him If they truly felt that bad

28:26 Then wouldn't you just say, fuck it. Let's just do a law? You know is like why didn't you just do that? You kept talking and talking and make it sound worse but no one seemed to be actually doing very much. It's about getting out the vote! Okay that's established we don't need to say it every single time I'm gonna say it a lot But it got ratcheted up Now, the stage is set. So now the groups come in we've got the fascism for America guys who got the democratic... Fascism for America? Yes! Who is a fascism for America guy? That's what I call them you know it's uh it's not it's nofascism.org whatever it is there's the Democrats against fascism the Democrat now what is the Democratic Socialists of America and ProPublica

29:10 who also have their funders and their agenda, they come up with... I mean this was a great thing to throw into the machine. And the machine loves this! The anonymously sourced audio-only video of the children crying. Well we're gonna listen to it a little bit here. Where is it? Here. This is how it was presented with this music This is not reporting by the way. This is setting the stage for what you're about to hear.

30:09 Now, let me tell you. This sound that you're hearing is like nails on a chalkboard to Certainly every mother and probably every father as well. You know, when you hear that kind of wailing from a child—and of course it's subtitled Papa, Papa! Don't report me or don't deport my papa! And then here is the Spanish-speaking ice thug who Who is thug who is saying? Oh, we got a real orchestra here. Don't wait you know come on kids be quiet But that really was a genius move that would that really set people off and emotions ran extremely high

30:59 And this is not, this is real. This is not acting I mean it's method acting to an extreme in some bizarre way But Rachel Maddow receiving a breaking news flash just before the end of her show where It became apparent that now they have facilities for quote tender age children And, you know... Wow! Whoever came up with the name and I think it's an official name. And it's probably an official categorization. This is Hollywood at work doing its best some of this best work So good and-and it worked I mean yes Hollywood doing its best work and Rachel I mean it just got to her and uh this isn't just before a handoff to uh guess Larry O'Donnell New news um this has just come out from The Associated Press

31:54 This is incredible. Trump administration officials have been sending babies and other young children to at least three... Can we put up the graphic of this? Thank you, do we have it? No Three tender age shelters in South Texas Lawyers and medical providers just I think i'm gonna have to hand this off Sorry that does it for us tonight. We'll see you again tomorrow Now it is time for the last word with Lawrence O'Donnell where he's live in Brownsville, Texas

32:39 Thank you very much Rachel. We just got word of that breaking news story that Rachel was just telling you about and that is that The Trump administration has announced that they are now, they now say that they are operating three facilities somewhere around here for what their calling tender age children This is a very difficult story to process it has been every day but A very difficult story to process. So, that was real! I mean Rachel was really... very emotional

33:14 Very this was not acting. Yeah, but you gotta remember that Rachel is in tears when Trump won to begin with and this is just all Reminders it is This woman yeah well that wasn't her alone I mean It was all what was this I have from the Lawrence O'Donnell show hold on Where they were on this policy was gonna put a hundred Republican seats in jeopardy Reason he had that's no that's that's logic we don't play logic right now And, but it went to such an extreme and I took the... now this is nine minutes that I chopped down to just a couple. And I think we should just listen and comment because a lot of familiar things come back into this particular piece of audio

CHAPTER 11 / 43 Discussion

Kirstjen Nielsen Confronted at Mexican Restaurant

Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen was harassed by protesters while dining at a Mexican restaurant in Washington, D.C. The protest, reportedly led by a Department of Justice employee and members of the Democratic Socialists of America, involved chanting "Shame!" and playing audio of crying children. The incident lasted nine minutes and was characterized as a professionally organized "public shaming" event.

kirstjen nielsen· dhs· mexican restaurant· abolish ice· protest

33:58 The emotions got so high and of course at this point, you know the gangs are in left and right. It was all kinds of organizations all gearing up for this and they decide to publicly shame Department of Homeland Security Director Kirsten Nielsen. And she's in a restaurant in Washington, D.C., and so everyone probably saw the news story that she was shamed out of the restaurant—there is a picture or video of her walking out of the restaurant with at this point a security detail—but this went on inside the restaurant for nine minutes And I was surprised if...I don't care what's going on, if you're in my restaurant and you're disturbing that for nine minutes unless you're complicit. You're gonna be kicking people out! I mean after maybe 30 seconds it say excuse me there are the people eating here just take your stuff outside so it seems fairly well coordinated but once you kind of hear what was being said and the chance

35:00 It becomes apparent where these people are coming from, but also how they're driven from pure raw ignited emotion. Yeah before you play the clip... And I'm only saying this because of what you mentioned earlier in the show, which was the FBI setting up the Loretta Lynch-Bill Clinton meetup at the tarmac is that this had to be planned in advance. Because you can't get that many people who show up out of the blue so I would say complicity was probably part of the restaurant. It was a restaurant ownership, it was because I'm sure somebody's just not following her around all the time but they knew that she ate there they reported back to somebody that she's a regular customer at this restaurant and then somebody talked him into keeping an eye out for and calling us

35:50 Hotline number and that hotline never resulted these guys coming over immediately in creating this disturbance, right? That's the only thing that makes sense. Well, I see start aren't you don't get I've been Berkeley I've seen I know how these things work You don't get this kind of thing contemporaneously Hmm good use of the word contemporaneous. I didn't want to use it but I like it. I like it. You're impressing me big boy Yeah, yeah. Now this if I... If you said to me make a soundtrack of Twitter during this episode This would be it! This would be the soundtra- In fact we could probably remix this and really make it sound cool But this is..this IS a soundtrack of Twitter So whenever you want to disturb the peace and do that under virtue signaling How did we start that John? The chant And what is the chant? Yes no We won't go yes something one of these simple dumb chants How about...

36:47 So we start with Mike Check and you're complicit. Mike Check with nine people makes no sense! But it's because it's programming, It's the same people that's the point the same people so let's just hear what they're saying You're complicit in the incarceration of 10,000 children Abolish ice? That's probably gonna work out well, isn't it to get rid of ice. Remove police!

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38:45 That is the DOJ employee by the way who, uh...who is the ringleader of this. She works for Department of Justice and she's the one saying you know all the fucking gall to have dinner in a Mexican restaurant while your locking Mexican children up Say what? So most of this incident is mostly Costa Rica. Thank you for pointing out the obvious, but this is not unhinged. This is psychotic. Shame! No human being is illegal! Ah we're getting to the New World Order crowd finally.

39:32 No human being is illegal! No child is illegal. There you go, no walls, no borders, sanctuary for all. DHS ripping away children So now they're playing the audio of the children crying so they got a boombox Shame on you!

CHAPTER 12 / 43 Discussion

Political Activism and the DOJ Ringleader

The lead protester in the Kirstjen Nielsen restaurant incident was identified as a Department of Justice employee, raising questions about professional conduct and potential termination. The discussion suggests that such activists are using viral moments to audition for media roles, similar to attorney Michael Avenatti. The strategy of "unhinged" public confrontation is analyzed as a tool for riling up the electorate ahead of the midterms.

department of justice· michael avenatti· twitter· political activism· kirstjen nielsen

40:25 Very well organized. Oh, yeah it sounds I mean it is psychotic its nuts and unhinged you're right but it's extremely well-organized as professionally done correct and they had signs printed signs everything and the Texas concentration camps how do I get into one I might as well point this out. This again, by the way, I think this is going to

41:01 may backfire on the electorate, but it's just too annoying. Again we have the Democrats with their can you focus on one thing? It's not even these aren't even Democrats John these are people who were riled up so they just got bad instructions well I'm gonna assume that purpose again is to get them people to vote Democrat but again its unfocused its like all these things against Trump there's not 1 or 2 things you can write home on They go from one topic to another. I mean, what's the point? Why now talk about the Texas concentration camps as if there are any?

41:37 It's just a whole, it's just completely...it's very well. Well as well as professionally done but they must have too many meetings with too many people and they all want to get their one complaint. Yes! Well and that's what you see then again this is why I said it was just like Twitter this is exactly what it was like on Twitter everything from Peter Fonda calling me out Yeah, just using crazy language like Baron should be kidnapped. You know Christian Nielsen should be you know poked and And slapped and tied to the... put in the stockade He came in out of the blue for some reason Well he has a movie coming out next week That's why he came out of the blue The punchline is that the title of the movie is Boundaries

42:30 That's the punchline of it all. But this is exactly what was going on Twitter, except you don't have the counter argument which is just as vile and loud and annoying. Kirsten Nielsen will want you to think that we are ruining your dinner? She is the secretary of DHS! I've stripped children apart from their every day They lock them up in cages they sleep under those silver blankets You guys get at marathons kids will never be reunited with their parents. Because Kirsten Nielsen doesn't think it's necessary to make a plan to reunite them.

43:09 Did she say in there earlier the same screecher is that uh, that she's the secretary of state? Oh I don't know. Did she say that? I think DHS...I thought you would say DHS. No! She said...I thought she was the Secretary of State. They sleep under those silvers. Before that? Yeah it was where it was...I should have stopped it earlier. Okay I wasn't listening. That's a concentration camp! Here's the news that will allow you to think we are ruining your dinner?! No, she says DHS. That was a very interesting comment, I thought. That the idea of giving these children tortillas with peanut butter

44:29 And some of them were out of the fridge, they still had ice on them. It's just despicable to this woman! It's just... The whole idea... Meanwhile I don't know if she has kids but she is probably feeding a mac and cheese Yeah, it's like not much better. What is this the DOJ woman? Yeah, that's the same one She's the loudest she's the best so the DOJ woman is really just a troublemaker Yes now how are they gonna rat us do J deal with this do they fire her yeah I don't know but see if that gets I mean I think she's setting herself up to be fired So she can make a bigger fuss oh you could get on TV with that yeah

45:07 Take the place of Michael Avenatti who I think is because as I promised you the media has backlash against that guy It's like okay back somebody knew that you can put on all the shows back to Twitter CNBC ABC and she would be the perfect one if she gets fired so they have right you're right They have to use what I would do being a ex-bureaucrat. I'd bring her in and discipline or say, you know This is really bad what you've doing we're transferring you to the Justice Department outpost in Bangor, Maine and just move her. Move her so she's... No. Yeah! Move her to Alaska But you're right Twitter is now the farm team for the news networks So Michael Avenatti back to Twitter you go You're back over there Hey you loud chick Maybe you'll do Violence and trying to give them a better life because that is what Kirsten Nielsen

CHAPTER 13 / 43 Discussion

Otay Mesa Detention Facility and Employee Threats

A producer provides a first-hand account of the atmosphere at the Otay Mesa Detention Facility in San Diego, where employees have received death threats following public calls to action by celebrities like Peter Fonda. The facility, operated by the private company CCA, houses adults awaiting trial for serious crimes rather than children. The account also details a visit by Nancy Pelosi, who reportedly confronted the facility's chaplain regarding biblical justifications for border policy.

otay mesa· cca· ice· death threats· nancy pelosi

46:03 wants them to have. That is what she gets paid to do! What's your greatest incentive? Now this was one of my favorites coming from the Democratic Socialists of America, what's your salary?! Oh God... How much do you make? No borders! No walls! Sanctuary for all! We're here tonight because DHS Secretary Nielsen is sitting right over there trying to enjoy dinner as over 10,000 children have been ripped away from their parents' arms. So we say you can't enjoy your dinner until you reunite all of those families and abolish ICE. Shame! Shame!

46:58 Remember what her face looks like when she comes for your children. Fantastic. I have to say one thing that was kind of slightly annoying just to me personally, We never found what she was eating. Oh God, you're so right about that and she was just sitting there in the corner with her husband or I don't know and it's very uncomfortable. There are three guards there? Not in the beginning they didn't not in the beginning no no no It took a little while She texted someone and then they showed up And those guys just kind of stood in front of her but it's not just Kristen Nielsen

47:50 This is one of our producers, he wants to be anonymous as I'm sure you and John are going to talk about this in the next show. This madness has already started to directly affect my family because my wife works for CCA a private company that is contracted to ICE to handle detention otherwise known as the evil Otey Mesa Detention Facility here in San Diego County In addition, we have close family members in the CBP, Customs and Border Patrol which is pretty common in our area for everyone. The majority of illegals detained there are awaiting trial for crimes like rape, ID theft, murder, drugs gang violence etc., not some poor Joe Gonzalez that was just found to be undocumented hanging outside Home Depot and ripped away from his family

48:31 And there are no children housed there regardless of the fake face bag video going around. More to the point, she came home after a shift and told me about numerous death threats they received in post response to Mr Fonda's call-to action Some were even nice enough to leave a callback number for the Sheriff's Anti Terrorism Unit to investigate As well as a number of people waiting outside the facility taking pictures of all the officers, their personal vehicles and the facility. Protesters are nothing new to the facility but this kind of action is crossing a line The Otey Mesa Facility is owned and operated by CCA not ICE even though the news reports differently Everyone who works there's a regular citizen with a crappy job like most Americans Their personal information

49:16 is not protected because they're not technically officers of the law. So there's nothing legally protecting anyone that works there from these radical threats On a side note, our wonderful Nancy Pelosi toured the facility a day ago with her entourage of hate who even went so far as to talk down the church chaplain saying oh yeah where in the Bible does it say to rip children from their mothers? Nice, I wish we had audio of that. That would have been great. So yeah, yes keep a recorder around by the way if you have an Android phone is called and recorder mm-hmm a very good product You can turn it on as you kiss an app you can turn it on and then when you choose

50:00 When you go to an Android, when you back to the home screen where you do anything else. The thing doesn't show back up so it doesn't look like your recorder going somebody smart that knew what this would looked like when the app was running in the background fine So you can just get it going and then put it into your pocket with a microphone up or any number of ways I record conversations all the time especially if it involves negotiations. And just in case... I never said that, oh really? So you can carry this thing around That's actually the only reason why we started recording this as a show is because you just would keep saying Oh really?

CHAPTER 14 / 43 Discussion

Trump Executive Order and June 30th Marches

President Trump signed an executive order intended to end family separations, though critics argue the move is a tactical maneuver to pressure Congress for border wall funding. Activist groups under the "Families Belong Together" banner are proceeding with plans for massive nationwide marches on June 30th. The effectiveness of the executive order in dampening political outrage remains a point of contention.

executive order· donald trump· families belong together· border wall· protests

50:44 You can get this, it's free and then when you're done with your recording you have to actually dig the app. You have to go to that little where you show the different windows here for all of the apps running and find it click on it open it up then stop manually otherwise they record for days. It doesn't use a lot of room I've recorded long things with it from my sound guy so I've recorded an entire BART trip in a BART train from Oakland all the way through San Francisco to post at one of the sound effect collection operations. But... All right, I'm going to stop you there because we get it. Record! I'm done. Now this is not over by a long shot despite the executive order which really is Trump really underestimated what was going on

51:36 I initially, I thought man did he really start this himself to put some kind of pressure on getting a bill that includes the border wall? Because that ultimately is what he wants. That's all he wants and at this point you know he should be given that because that is kind of what the election was about but okay yeah we can all fight and bitch and moan... Well hold on a second! That's not true. The election was about build a wall and let Mexico pay for it not the taxpayers. Gotcha Gotcha, so if Mexico came along and said here's the money then it would be a cool. You really think so? No, but let's say it happened in a world of crazy Do you think that everyone'd be like oh okay well since they're paying for it go build it really you think that would happen no I'm Of course well not you ask It's personal at this point but

52:25 This will continue and there will be new things that are rotten and crappy about the president, and Republicans. Well I have a couple of clips. Hold on, this is going to manifest itself June 30th if you go to familiesbelongtogether.org They have a huge amount of marches planned There's going to be a march on DC They've got petitions, of course there's no idea who was behind this because the domain registration is private. Probably Hans or one of those socialist operations. They've got signs you can print out

53:07 And I'll just read you the headline here. Families belong together, the Trump administration is cruelly separating children from their families but now the world is paying attention and we won't allow this to continue join an upcoming event will send a powerful message families belong together so if you read the newsletter Peter Fonda kid thinks that they're gonna 90 million people of protests on this thing There is a couple of things that I get caught my attention for one thing, by the way Trump Signing the executive order to ending it is really taking its not over But but that I think the wind has been taken out of their sails especially for big but this what are you protesting?

CHAPTER 15 / 43 Discussion

John Heilemann and Democratic Political Strategy

Journalist John Heilemann expressed strong emotional opposition to the Trump administration's border policies, explicitly aligning himself with the Democratic Party's goal of inflicting a political price in the November midterms. His commentary on PBS and other networks is cited as an example of neutral reporters losing objectivity due to the high-stakes nature of the immigration debate.

john heilemann· pbs· democratic party· midterms· zero tolerance

53:51 I just, I disagree. I think that the outrage there's going to be a new thing that people latch on to and the outrage will just continue and you won't even know he signed an executive order within three weeks Okay well we'll put that in the bin...I disagree First of all I want to play kind of the zero tolerance roundup that was part of the round up that was done on PBS which i thought it was a little more reasonable Then the network news which talked about this issue does PBS on Trump zero tolerance one? Yeah, sorry from Democrats. We're here to call in the present to rescind this zero-tolerance policy This is not about attacking the president. This is about humanity and From protesters including some shouting at Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen as she ate dinner at a Mexican restaurant last night

54:51 President Trump announced the about-face around lunchtime. We are signing an executive order in a little while The president's executive order would detain families together instead of separately The administration insists that change does not mean it is backing down from its zero tolerance policy Mr. Trump announced the change to a table full of Republican lawmakers but seemed openly conflicted on the topic If you're weak, which some people would like you to be. If you're really really pathetically weak the country's going to be overrun with millions of people and if you strong then You don't have any heart That's a tough dilemma Perhaps I'd rather be strong

55:38 For days, the public has seen these images provided by the administration of some of the shelters for more than 2300 kids now separated from their parents. That figure is for the first month alone of the president's zero tolerance policy It is still not clear how many are toddlers or infants and how long it will take to reunite them all with parents Hello? Yeah Uh your clip? It ended? Oh, I thought there was more on there. Anyway so that was kind of their rundown now so i have this one clip very short clip and it's only part of what his spiel was but this is John Heilman

56:20 who is supposed to be a neutral reporter and he's gotten, he was like the Madden. This is your friend isn't this your buddy? Yeah I know Heilman yeah but it's not my buddy, he's not one of my you know what are we call them lib something I forget their names they're nicknames and I haven't seen him for years but he was you know the partner with Mark Halperin the guy who got rousted because of sexual improprieties so now he's kind of on his own duo. They were doing a lot of work. Lib Joe's, Lib Joe's. Thank you troll room! I was racking my brain too and then the troll room went to the rescue. Yeah he is not a Lib Joe friend of mine but he presents himself as this neutral observer but he obviously got caught up in the emotions of the whole thing

57:08 And then he realized that he's been screwed by Trump signing this order. He gets all worked up about it and then he says, we referring to the Democrats which I find there always be a huge blunder When you're so involved. Listen to the way he says this and then listen to the way this wraps. You can't go around talking about people like they're vermin. You can't inflict this kind of policy on Americans and not pay a political price We have a great chance to inflict one on him and his party in November we I mean the Democratic Party does People who object to this policy which i think is a lot of people beyond the Democratic Party Have a chance to make the president's party pay a price They should, and the press needs hold them accountable And not let him just kinda slide away from this over the course of next few days pretend like it didn't happen

CHAPTER 16 / 43 Discussion

Jen Briney and the Congressional Dish Debate

A civil debate on Twitter with Jen Briney of the *Congressional Dish* podcast focused on the legal nuances of the Flores Consent Decree and the "zero tolerance" policy. The discussion highlights the difficulty of discussing legal facts without being accused of defending the underlying policy. The exchange illustrates how emotional filters can cloud the judgment of even highly respected legislative researchers.

jen briney· congressional dish· legal debate· twitter· consent decree

58:04 I've never seen you like this before. You've given me a lump in my throat with that, a little bit. We are gonna get him! You know, I don't do it often but I had to get in a little bit of a Twitter fight with Jen Briney from the Congressional Dish podcast. Yeah And it wasn't really a fight but you know...I really appreciate and respect her ability to research legislation and she had just...her filters have not allowed her to really look deeper into

58:43 If there's a law or not, and as I explained on the previous show There is a consent decree and how that can or cannot be changed. And what is law? Without a doubt the 100% zero tolerance policy Of course, increased the problem and it was in it ratcheted up. And there's no doubt about it But it's not like this policy could be changed with just a stroke of a pen and that is proven by the executive order which it still takes action from Government bodies to get this done So I debated the facts with her back-and-forth a little bit You know It was very civil because you know, I think we'd like each other. I liked Jen. I think she's good as they said I respect what she does

59:22 But I just thought she's a lib joe though. She's a lib joe and her judgment was clouded And so I pointed out a few things and she publicly rescinded and said, okay because you're like Walmart the city's kids are walmart! Hey! You know? I said okay here's the article where it shows that this is a licensed facility Um...and i'm just doing a voice the way I imagined it at the time in my head And you know, one of my voices. Yeah it was okay but then... Approximation Then she made a mistake and she said I'm surprised that you are defending this! And i'm like there you go Jen This is your problem At no point look at my tweets did I defend anything

1:00:05 I just said here's what i think is the law and here you know, now I'm countering your argument. But that is the problem immediately if you just want to discuss something You're immediately presumed To be defending or you know yeah defending Defending the policy well not even Trump Just defending hurting children It's like yeah that would be surprising I think you know me a little better than that I really don't think that I would be someone who actually offending children being traumatized so Why did I even bring this up? I don't know

1:00:40 What other clips do you have? You're irked. Yeah, it was it was disappointing I've never seen you like this before! I-I was really disappointed and like Why that was a call back to the Heilman clip. That's well there you go that there's another Lib Joe and just It's the emotions are getting the better of people And they don't know and hopefully in the second half or after the first block Or B block I can shed a little light on it but It's kind of funny to think when did we start our parallel universe alternate universe two years ago? It was right after the election. Two years ago and yeah, and we said watch this We were talking about what we said Lee I didn't think it was gonna get worse Well here you are People are truly living in two different movies with the same script but the movie just plays out differently

CHAPTER 17 / 43 Discussion

Kirstjen Nielsen Press Briefing on Immigration Loopholes

Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen defended the administration's actions during a press briefing, citing a 314% increase in adults using children to cross the border as "fraudulent family units." She argued that legal loopholes and court rulings prevent the long-term detention of families together, leaving the administration with few enforcement options. Her performance is described as calm and bureaucratic, though lacking the "joker" quality required for higher political office.

kirstjen nielsen· dhs· immigration law· traffickers· ms-13

1:01:37 That's what I'm going to talk about later. All right, do you have any other? Any other stuff on this particular topic well let's see because and by the way You know What we're not going to do, I just don't... We're very early on a lot of these things. No one had heard of the Flores Agreement now it shows up in an executive order so sorry! We actually did the research and came up with what are the correct answers but what you don't need is a whole bunch of us going off debating like you've seen incessantly What you need is a guiding light that takes you through the insanity So you don't get cut by either side of shark infested waters

1:02:15 I'm just talking about your own family let alone where you work. Yeah, this is pretty good about this Not all I have tons of emails from people's yeah We get donation notes from people saying my family this my family that it's very hard to come This stuff is breaking up families and friends the idea we're trying to destroy the country okay? No borders no walls no friends No borders no walls no friends exactly She's really hanging in there. I wonder how long she's gonna put up with this and just not quit? I do have the one clip of her, and I was impressed. I always like how she handles things. I think she could easily be a candidate for president. Is wearing too much foundation or is it just me? She's at that age where you go through these phases... ...of more makeup less makeup. I can say that from experience. I think I've seen this

1:03:16 No, I mean she's also under light so she pretty much he overcompensates a little bit probably Anyway, here is her just explaining the law Which of those is the most precise way to describe how the administration feels. And given the blowback by a number of Republicans as well as Democrats, are you considering rethinking this based on feedback or is this the administration's position going forward? Period paragraph. The laws prohibit us from detaining families while they go through prosecution for illegally entering the border

1:03:55 and while they go through prosecutions for immigration proceedings. If we close the loopholes, we can keep the families together which is what they did in the last administration until a court ruled that we can no longer do that after After 20 days, we have to release both unaccompanied children and accompanied children. Which means that we cannot detain families together. The only option is not enforce the law at all. Yes. Okay so going back to these two questions from Kristen and Margaret you said that you want Congress to close some loopholes With that, you also said that you want to make this work. Now are these kids being used as pawns for wall? Many people are asking that and Democrats are saying this is your discretion and there is no law that says that this White House can separate parents from their children

1:04:45 The kids are being used by pawns, by the smugglers and the traffickers. Again let's just pause to think about this statistic 314% increase in adults showing up with kids that are not a family unit Those are traffickers, those are smugglers. That is MS-13. Those are criminals, those are abusers." So thank you all I'm trying to say is the closing that loophole will enable us to detain families together throughout the proceeding as they've done in previous administrations. I just like her! I just like how calm and collected she is um... Her speech is a little annoying traffickeeeerrrr

1:05:28 But I like her too. She's an old school bureaucrat, she worked for Bush, she has European influences that are nice and Can she deliver a line though? I don't know if she can, if you can joke because I haven't heard her crack one joke ever. I don't think she's funny though then then she's no good as president. You gotta be funny. No, she can't make presidents. She doesn't, she's not presentable in the right manner or she doesn't have that...she got a nice smile but she doesn't have the Joker's smile of someone who is funny and makes

1:06:06 Who knows how to smile because they got a one-liner coming right? No, she didn't know you're right. You're right She's disqualified that said I liked her a lot Anyway to wrap this up. I thought it was an interesting try I actually had the quick hangout with the former New York banker who was He was like, this guy is unhinged and off the rails. I had to set him a little bit straight on the topic at hand but I totally agree that when Trump first responded to you know the outrage that was taking place and he did an impromptu little stand up there in the White House

CHAPTER 18 / 43 Discussion

Space Force and Interdimensional Defense

President Trump directed the Pentagon to establish a "Space Force" as the sixth branch of the U.S. Armed Forces. While the move is presented as a way to ensure American dominance in orbit, it has sparked speculation regarding secret space programs and potential interdimensional threats. The announcement aligns with language previously found in the National Defense Authorization Act regarding "off-world" defense.

space force· donald trump· pentagon· military branch· interdimensional beings

1:06:44 It was this that I think it's in some way, I don't know if he was planting the seed. If it was a feeble attempt at trying to change the narrative by throwing something crazy out there although for NOAA gender producers not crazy completely known nothing that we don't know about since the reading of the most recent National Defense Authorization Act Space Force! That's right space force He just threw that out there Yeah, I have the clip if you want to play it. Yeah, I got a couple things but yeah what's your clip? My clip is kind of... not very long this is uh new space troopers announced yes President Trump outlined their plan today to ensure America's dominance in space he said He has directed the Pentagon to establish a new branch of the military A Space Force David Martin has more on this

1:07:34 This quarter billion dollar GPS satellite is indispensable to the way the American military fights and the rest of us live. From cell phones, to ATMs It cost another quarter billion to launch it into orbit. After that, it is controlled by a small team of airmen from a base in Colorado. They wear Air Force uniforms but today President Trump decreed in the future they will become members of a separate space force. I'm hereby directing the Department of Defense and Pentagon

1:08:10 to immediately begin the process necessary to establish a space force as the sixth branch of the armed forces. That's a big statement." You know, when Tina and I were watching that... And this is Tina! She's level-headed. You've met Tina Yeah, she's a level head. She has like a round head but okay go on. Ah jeez see now you got to bring that into this now I'm gonna have to spend like an hour telling her the shape of her head is fine stop that! It is it's fine as we said not like a basketball just bear with me Okay I'm sorry and she hears this she says oh that's just fine That's it The aliens are going invade This is it

1:08:59 And I gotta tell you, there was a note of seriousness in her voice that I had not detected on topics like this in the past. Well, I'm very compatico with her! I felt the same way! You know and I'm thinking to ourselves, interdimensional beings. Now the possibility exists we're gonna go in this direction which i think is funny because you've read the Corso book people should read that thing yes yep it's possible we've been having these battles going on for some time and just hasn't been formularized yeah It's been, you know, secret divisions. But the thing is I've seen all the disclosure videos and nothing surprises me. I am convinced of course we have already had Israeli moon bases not we but the Israelis have moon bases. Oh fine! Okay, you can laugh at me that we have satellites bumping other satellites out of orbit

1:09:54 There's definitely, we followed Space Wars for years. Maybe the entire length of the show So for me you know when all of a sudden there is US Air Force video of Tic Tac looking spaceships flying around I'm like eh it's what? You know fine and I went to meet an alien one time Disappointing trip But you know to think that a were alone be that they're not already among us. It's foolish Yeah, but you know somehow the combo of Trump and just the words Space Force in the way He says it you know like space for It's your trigger she went boink That's it there coming space bars would be the first new branch of the armed services since the Air Force was created in 1947

CHAPTER 19 / 43 Discussion

Outer Space Treaty and Kinetic Bombardment

The legal framework for the Space Force is governed by the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, which prohibits weapons of mass destruction in orbit but does not explicitly ban conventional weapons. This allows for the potential deployment of kinetic bombardment systems or "machine guns in space." Defense Secretary James Mattis had previously expressed skepticism about the new bureaucracy, suggesting internal military resistance to the reorganization.

outer space treaty· kinetic bombardment· machine guns in space· mattis· ndaa

1:10:41 Less than a year ago, Secretary Mattis told Congress I do not wish to add a separate service that would bring with it a whole new bureaucracy. This is what's so interesting is that this was in the National Defense Authorization Act It's cited by name the Space Force. This is not new, there was money we read that there's money appropriated for it they've been all kinds of... We only read it two years ago I think it was four years ago there was talk of off-world soldiers and it was in the NDAA as far as I can recall so this isn't in fact in March of this year Trump was at the see where was he? He was at

1:11:29 Marine cadets, I guess yeah they were graduating the marine cadets in San Diego and here's what he said. My new national strategy for space... March okay? March Space recognizes that space is a war fighting domain just like the land air and sea we may even have a space force develop another one space Force We have the Air Force while of the Space Force we have the Army the Navy You know, I was saying it the other day because we're doing a tremendous amount of work in space. I said maybe we need a new force will call it the Space Force and I was really serious. I'm a genius. I tell you maybe we need to force in space will call it

1:12:14 Space Force! Space force. We need a new force, we'll call it the space force and I was really serious and then i said what a great idea maybe we'll have to do that that could happen so think of that space force from the very beginning many of our astronauts have been soldiers and sailors airmen coast guardsman and marines and our service members will be vital to ensuring America continues to lead the way into the stars. We're going to lead the way in space, we're way behind and were catching up fast so fast that nobody even believes it. Woah! Were catching up fast here's a problem though actually it caught on heres his rally where was he yesterday? In Minnesota I think? I don't remember

1:13:05 Our beautiful ancestors won two world wars, defeated fascism and communism and put a man on the face of the moon. And I think you saw the other day we're reopening NASA. We are going to be science! Going to space Space Force! So we have the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, the Marines. The Coast Guard But now that we have the Air Force Now were going to have... The Space Force! Wooo! Now the problem is Okay the name has caught on and it's perfect but technically shouldn't they be called the Spareens?

1:14:03 Oh, God. That would have been better! Well I have a couple thoughts on Mattis because i think that the armed forces have let's assume that we have aliens and then we captured these guys and we found the flying saucer in it and everything that was in uh The Day After Roswell book Yes, which is written by a guy who was not insane. No by any means no Is he still alive say half of its true? He's still alive Yeah Wasn't killed I mean he was floating around giving lectures and He talks about two people who took charge of this whole operation the whole alien thing mm-hmm the army

1:14:52 Right, not the Air Force. No the army the Army that's why that's why Mattis is pissed then well Maddis is marine But I think he has more in common with the army guys and at one army guy who goes out giving these lectures a smart army head of the chief of staff of the Army I Think they didn't want to relinquish it And that's what Mattis is talking about, another bureaucracy. We got enough trouble with the army having these doing all this work but now we're going to have some new guys are all going to be have to be read in in and are we going to move the army guys over to that? Doesn't make a lot of sense. People are gonna be asking questions, why army guys going over there and you watch they'll be Army guys going over there." So then the former New York banker he's like this is crazy with the guy's office rocker bro! I said nah bro this was already approved by your Congress...I say bro it was approved by your Congress in the National Defense Authorization Act as money appropriated for it you know this is not like a new thing you're just unhinged

1:15:52 And he says, but there's a law against that! I said well that's not entirely true. There is something called the Outer Space Treaty and everyone's on board with it It is a legal framework But...it only bars parties to the treaty from placing weapons of mass destruction in Earth orbit You can't install them on the moon or any other celestial body but you can Or at least the treaty does not prohibit the placement of conventional weapons So kinetic bombardment, you know would be allowable technically I think a machine gun in space Machine guns in space all right 117 Perfect okay good. We have an opening for the show everybody Space Force yes It's beautiful and with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John soon

CHAPTER 20 / 43 Discussion

No Agenda Art and Executive Producer Credits

Artist Mark G contributed a new rendering of North Korea for the show's art generator, satirizing the country's tourism and human rights record. Richard Unterberger is credited as the Executive Producer for show 1044 following a significant donation. The hosts acknowledge the "value network" and thank the producers for their continued support of the value-for-value model.

mark g· north korea· richard unterberger· donation· podcast art

1:16:43 C stands for cages are for kids. Dvorak in the morning to you, Mr Adam Curry also in the morning all the ships and sea boots on the ground feet in there subs in the water machine guns in space and all the dames and knights out there in the morning to the troll room no agenda stream dot com good to have you all here thank you've been very helpful this morning it's appreciated Noah gin stream calm and in the morning to mark G we have not seen Mark G on the No Agenda art generator for a while But he came in with a beaut. He has such a recognizable style, it is... He's an artist. He's a pro yes and he had one of his I would hang it if this shit even with the writing on it I mean this is a poster you could hang this on your wall It's so pretty

1:17:27 And it's a picture, his version of a rendering of North Korea with the beautiful round half-moon beach with palm trees on it. It says, North Korea! Come for the beaches? Stay for human rights violations. We should probably find some way that some of these artists who we hardly get in touch can make high-res big versions so people can print out or take it to a reprographic shop or someplace and print out large poster sized copies. They're square, but you could say I would say maybe two feet by two feet would be a nice size. Three feet by three feet? And a dynamite collectible!

1:18:13 A total collectible. No, a dynamite collectible! Okay, dynamite... Well today we got a lousy showing because there was no gimmick. A lousy showing... Ah! A slight dig at your partner nice Oh did I say what? You said because there was no gimmick. Because I complained about you. I was criticizing myself Richard Unterberger $200 that's it That's our associate executive producer and he becomes executive producer by default. He actually gave $200, 222 dollars and 22 cents but this on here is 200 because the other thing came in later so I can get a note in okay. Anyways it says my second donation is totally worth it everyone who listens should support the show! He needs to dedouching

1:19:03 Oops, sorry. Didn't even have it ready. I was like who needs anything for this segment? You've been de-douche'd! I want to give a shout out to my amazing wife Lori today June 14th flag day is her birthday just came in after that yeah so if you could add her to the birthday list and hook her up with a MILF jingle and some karma for our a new house and second human resource on the way, that would be great. Happy birthday Lori! She listens to the show on Sundays with me when we are working in the house hanging out it really spurs some great discussions about the news and current culture thank you very much for all of hard work you guys do putting into this show.

1:19:58 You've got karma So he automatically becomes the executive producer for shows alone executive producer for show 1044 all right well, thank you very much. We appreciate that and sorry that There was the value network let us down a bit on this one big time Yes detractors rejoice we're going broke yeah detractors rejoice yes good work everybody Well, we got guys. We got yes those guys. They'll be out of the suck we finally got it We finally did it and you did now? We will return on another show and the next show will be on Sunday remember us at vorac org Slash n a I think we have enough deconstruction for you to go out there today and propagate the formula our formula is this we go out We hit people in them out

CHAPTER 21 / 43 Discussion

Off-The-Grid Living and Facebook Privacy Risks

The "Off-The-Grid" (OTG) segment discusses the privacy implications of using Facebook for universal logins on third-party sites. A property manager warns that some rental application software allows landlords to view an applicant's Facebook profile if they use it to log in for a credit check. The hosts advocate for using "dumb" phones like the Nokia E71 to avoid modern tracking and data harvesting.

nokia e71· facebook· privacy· credit checks· universal login

1:21:01 Got a couple of suggestions for my OTG phone comebacks, you know actually I think only have two Hmm. Yeah You would do so we I need some I need some comebacks when when I'm with my Nokia e71 is on the table and someone goes Why do you have that? And we came up with, you know... We need some writers out there to give you some good lines. Right so it's a burner I'm a drug dealer kind of like that one Yeah that's good Uh i got rid of it after i found out it was taking upskirt videos You know? That's okay That's kinda yeah That's kinda okay and i think the winner for today and im open to more is IM DOWNSIZING! I think that works best right now Think? Yeah because all kids are downsizing these days

1:21:57 All the kids are downsizing. How about this one? I got one for you It's none of your business creep Yeah, that's great it makes for great dinner conversation yeah That's nice in a restaurant when you do that to the help who then spit in your food You know they did they will do that yes Yes, I got a an OTG for those you don't know is off-the-grid because I'm anti tracking and pro sanity note from sir peep slayer in the morning I'm a licensed property manager here in Arizona. My wife and I also have investment houses that we rent out now last year my wife found this great free program for managing our personal rentals it Rivals the one I pay for That I use from my business and she was showing me some of the cool things It did one thing in particular I noticed was that if an applicant for our credit check wanted to they had the option to log into the program with Facebook

1:22:49 As soon as they do that, I can see their profiles. People used to laugh at me because I never had a Facebook and I told friends that I guess it's the same way the NSA does it then to screen potential renters and I've come full circle so now if Facebook profile can be tied to your personal credit information voluntarily? I doubt most applicants have considered the implication of this Well, I tell you something. Uh...I've seen this kind of thing and of course not being a Facebook user i get very annoyed by it which is uh..you go to some website says we have to be a member they got any special features say would you like the sign in or get new accounts without taking account there because i want to see something and says signing with your facebook

1:23:32 I'm not gonna sign it with my Facebook. I don't have a Facebook, so I just go leave the site and never get to do anything there." I find it extremely annoying that somebody offers this and then the fact that people actually do it as our producer says they're idiots! I think most people do that and this was always the holy grail of Silicon Valley about 10 years ago is like can we be the universal login? They called it universal status I guess The status or presence, presence. That's what it was presence So you know if someone's present if you're logged in and you're logged in all the time and face bag pretty much got that I Have made that mistake in the past for sure They're like oh just click that menu But now you know you're sending all these details off and that's kind of the deal That's why people put these logs on their site yeah they can screw ya so let's go to Since you've got this issue into Austin

CHAPTER 22 / 43 Discussion

San Jose Scooter Regulations and Bike Path Criticism

San Jose is following San Francisco's lead in regulating motorized rental scooters due to concerns over sidewalk safety and improper parking. The discussion extends to the poor implementation of bike paths in American cities, which are often built without the necessary century-long cultural integration seen in Europe. A bike safety officer's criticism of the show's stance on urban mobility is also addressed.

san jose· motorized scooters· bird bikes· bike paths· public safety

1:24:27 I got this clip specifically for you. Okay, so you could take it to the City Council? I'm excited! So what other people are doing in other areas? This is the scooter update in the Bay Area A new transportation craze is sparking new government oversight San Francisco recently removed all rented motorized scooters until lawmakers approved a permitting process Now San Jose is following suit and KTVU's Jesse Gary has our report Midday in San Jose sees pedestrians using the new way to get from here to there, riding motorized scooters. It was fun. Never tried it before they're not in my town so I just wanted to give it a try A smartphone unlocks the scooters and the user is charged by the mile and amount of time In the ever increasing search to avoid vehicular gridlock this seemed like a eureka moment but

1:25:19 bad press due to bad actors and put the devices in a bad light. Too many of the scooters are being ridden on the sidewalks by helmetless riders weaving in an out And the scooters are being left in places, some of them blocked building entrances and ADA ramps and such. Those complaints have reached San Jose City Hall where leaders are taking a page from San Francisco's playbook considering regulating scooter use An overall limit on how many scooters can be deployed here in San Jose very clear regulations on where they can and cannot be parked, and also an equity clause to make sure that our low-income residents can afford this system. Late Wednesday Scott Meese of the San Jose Downtown Association pending opposition

1:26:03 Ed saying the low-cost efficiency of the scooters must be balanced against public safety. Some users agree if people are being stupid with them they shouldn't be able to use them you know? City Transportation Department officials will gather scooter companies together outside city hall Thursday afternoon at 430 for a public demonstration and then it's 630 inside city hall, a town hall style meeting to see what people want regulated and how yeah Yeah, yeah. Well that's going to happen here in Austin and it was interesting I know you saw the email thread with one of our producers who is a bike safety officer and he got really bent out of shape when i was talking about the bird bike which is actually a scooter

1:26:44 And he thought I was calling for people to die on bicycles. And I'm pro bicycle, but I'm anti the way it's being implemented because you can't just throw in a bunch of bike paths and say, now it works because I've been...I grew up in a country that took us a century of biking for really to work in traffic. It takes a lot more than just the bike path and say you're done. Yeah, the bike path's a joke! You have all kinds of educational things... I mean you need a lot really it takes hundreds of millions of dollars. The bike path in the United States is a joke yeah it screws up everything its poorly implemented nobody uses them especially around here I mean they got a lot of bicycle guys but there not that many

1:27:25 Of course, I saw that letter too. He condemned me and wouldn't address anything I had to say which is all this negative stuff which is you going along...I almost the other day ran into some guy going at max speed on a bike. Let me just move beyond that because the bike argument people are for or against it doesn't matter more importantly You made a call out on the show how to steal these scooters and I got some information Yes, from one of our producers who is very knowledgeable on the subject. He is a bird bike collector so he gets them at night and he charges them and repairs them... And he probably knows more about bird bikes than anybody at this point

CHAPTER 23 / 43 Discussion

Technical Guide to Disabling Bird Scooters

A technical guide explains how to disable the GPS and alarm systems on Bird rental scooters by drilling into the main control box. By installing a $50 bypass board available on eBay, an individual can effectively convert a rental unit into a private electric scooter. The hosts provide this information as a theoretical "post-collapse" survival skill rather than an endorsement of theft.

bird bikes· gps· hardware hacking· electric scooters· bypass board

1:28:15 So here are your options. You have, I think the fun way to go because you know when you pick up the bird bike and you haven't scanned the QR code it starts emitting a beeping tone as lights start flashing in a way of pathetic algo going I'm being stolen! I'm being stolen which gives a crap no one cares what you're doing on the street What you need is one of those little battery-powered electric drills, I'm not talking about the big Black & Decker but one of those hand jobbies that's basically just a staff. A tube with a drill bit at the end you know what i'm talking about? Yeah I know! Yep place that right in the middle of the box on top of the bird bike drill down and you will disable the whole thing And when I say the whole thing what your only disabling is the GPS, the warning and of course... Right in the middle just vroooop and it will die

1:29:10 That's that's his Achilles heel you get a $50 board which I'll put it in the show notes With a link you can buy it. You can bite off of eBay for sure $50 board, you just open the unit up plug that end bypasses all of the bird brain guts And you got yourself a fifty dollar scooter electric scooter paint job and you're good to go dynamite. Isn't that great? Now we're not supposed to be encouraging this sort of thing on the show, I don't know if it's even legal to do so We are just telling people not to do this but this is how you would if you had too Yes, if you were forced But don't do it people No! Don't! Do NOT DO THIS

1:29:50 You're not doing it, but if you had it. But for some reason there could be a revolution what happens if the society collapses and there's all these stupid bikes around? You need to be able to grab one! Order some boards up front people order some boards yeah okay couple more OTG thing this is actually I'm gonna skip the World Health Organization I think we did this story but for some reason it popped up again on NPR the World Health Organization is recognizing gaming disorders and mental health condition. Let's skip this This is a new version of the story okay? I have a clip, okay Let's play your clip then

CHAPTER 24 / 43 Discussion

WHO Gaming Disorder Classification and Pharmaceutical Interests

The World Health Organization has officially classified "gaming disorder" as a mental health condition, comparing the brain stimulation of gamers to that of drug addicts. Critics suggest this classification may lead to the over-prescription of psychiatric drugs to children. The discussion links this to potential future reports regarding the drugging of migrant children in detention centers.

world health organization· gaming disorder· addiction· mental health· big pharma

1:30:29 It's a background or clip. This is one of those short, I think it was short PBS. No, CBS? Yes, CBS. Video games can be addictive that is not an exaggeration today the World Health Organization classified what's called gaming disorder as a mental health condition here's Jamie Ucas The seven-year study by the World Health Organization reveals that some gamers get the same brain stimulation or high as those addicted to drugs and alcohol. Omar Blackburn couldn't handle a job, home or car because of his constant impulse to play. If I constantly just always have my mind on it, i'm just always going to want to be doing that. Sully Zach says he's not an addict but he can't

1:31:11 remember how young he was when he started playing video games. I was probably four or five years old when I was old enough to actually get my hands around the controller. Now 19, he spends hours a day on gaming systems If i'm hanging out with a friend who also really loves games we might just have a marathon and play for like eight hours Do you have to be conscious about taking a break or getting up from the video game? It is difficult sometimes yeah From difficult Yes, gaming is just as addictive as Oreos is the logical mathematical calculation there.

1:32:12 And every report that I saw... Well, it's a mental disorder. Mentals are given drugs. Oh by the way just-I wrote this down and forgot to bring it up because I said that I believe that the kids in cages thing will continue. I know what the next topic will be they're drugging these kids That's what the next outrage will be there drugging the kid. They are aren't they? I hope so. No, I think there was a report that they are talking about these things Yes! That's what i'm saying but this is going to be the report of course i'm joking about it...I hope so But here's no yeah I hope so Here's the problem with that I like the thesis but I tell you what the problem is Pharmaceutical industry I was waiting for you to say something Pharmaceutical industry Yeah they can't defend the pharmaceutical industry and expect to get any coverage on their networks You're right, I'm stupid Back to the addiction

CHAPTER 25 / 43 Discussion

Jaron Lanier on Social Media Manipulation

Virtual reality pioneer Jaron Lanier argues that individuals should delete their social media accounts to escape subtle algorithmic manipulation. He describes social media as a "spying empire" that uses rewards and punishments to modify human behavior. Lanier notes that this system has made society more "jittery and cranky" and has undermined the perceived reality of modern politics.

jaron lanier· social media· algorithms· behavior modification· silicon valley

1:33:03 Every report that I read or saw or heard had the, and this kind of had it in there. Like these guys they're so into the gaming they don't even get up to go to the bathroom That's kind of what they alluded to in that report but that was a big...that's the big uh The lead if you will Or the sub-lead It's like oh! They won't even get up to go to the bathroom is just so horrible But the addiction, and I'm going to try and do a real long callback. And I didn't write much of this down so you're gonna have to help me out but you're familiar with the topic. First we get into Jaron Lanier who to some female journos in Silicon Valley is they worship him

1:33:51 He got under the view do you have the clips? No, I don't have the view. I have him on channel 4 in the UK which I thought was better Okay, and just three short clips and it is about addiction and social networks and smartphones. Is there a principal reason why I should delete my social media? And if so what is... You know, we should probably explain who Jared Lanier... Lanier? Is that how you say it? Yeah, Jared Lanier. Do you want to explain who he is because you're from the neck of the woods. Jared Lanier has been around here in the Bay Area as a local and he is the guy who popularized himself by inventing some, this was in the 70s 80's probably. Some hands, some robotic like hands where you could stick your hand into these gloves, these famous VR gloves and then you can now do VR, you could do little things, you could do fancy stuff with a VR program, virtual reality program in the glove

1:34:52 And then he so became... It wasn't the Nintendo glove at the time that we all were hacking? Remember that? Yeah, the Nintendo. I don't remember what if he was doing that or not but what i do know is that he became the VR guru and he would run into him quite often. I'd see him every so often right and but he's like Stallman He's a little bit anti-social He wears his hair in long Rastafarian dreads. Cultural appropriation? Cultural appropriation, I always wear just kind of like a generally speaking...I've never seen him without a green t-shirt and some just slack. And he's a big man he's like Jabba the Hutt Big. He is a linebacker size guy probably. A little more than that. Yeah no no 250 to 260 maybe. If an ounce!

1:35:45 And he tends to not bathe a lot. Right, and it's quite noticeable Okay So here he is sitting down talking about the topic of social networks and iPhones and smartphones addiction Is there a principle reason why I should delete my social media? And if so what is this mmm There are two one of them is for your own good and the other is for society's good For your own good It's because you're being stopped You got to back it up and get started over. I didn't realize that one thing in that he does sound, and i'm very jealous of this... He does sound a lot like comic book guy when he talks. Comic strip blogger? No comic book guy! Oh comic from the simpsons yes so sounds like comic book guys So looks kind of

1:36:37 He looks like comic book guy a little bit, he doesn't have the... He's got the long dreads. He has no ponytail. He smells and ladies he is available! There are two one of them is for your own good and the other is for society's good For your own good, it's because you're being subtly manipulated by algorithms that are watching everything you do constantly and then sending you changes in your media feed and your diet that are calculated to adjust you slightly to the liking of some unseen advertiser. And so if you get off that, you can have a chance to experience a clearer view of yourself in your life

1:37:26 But then the reason for society might be even more important. Society has been gradually darkened by this scheme in which everyone is under surveillance all the time, and everyone is under this mild version of behavior modification all the time. It's made people jittery and cranky. It's made teens especially depressed, which can be quite severe but it has made our politics kind of unreal and strange where we're not sure if elections are real anymore We're not sure how much the Russians affected Brexit We do know that it was a crankier affair than it might have been otherwise

1:38:06 I like what I like about him as opposed to Stalman is he speaks very coherently. And I liked that he adapted his spiel for the location where it was, which Russians and Brexit's so the guy is thinking you know, he's smart and he says this more. I've always thought he was a very smart guy. I just like what he has to say now let's talk about how he puts it deep with what he does. He's not saying anything different than what we say no but it's like he has ability doesn't make it succinct And he has the style of authority that is very nice for television. Yes, he does and even if he's interesting to look at for sure It's like wow this and because he doesn't come across as nutty And just cool calm and collected Except for the dreads right but that also was part of his authoritative

CHAPTER 26 / 43 Discussion

The Feedback Loop of Digital Addiction

Jaron Lanier explains the difference between traditional advertising and social media, noting that digital platforms utilize a constant feedback loop to observe and change user behavior. Unlike billboards or television, social media algorithms are "blind robots" that search for patterns to maximize addiction. This system allows paying customers to leverage the platform's addictive nature for their own manipulative ends.

facebook· google· feedback loop· digital addiction· behavior modification

1:38:56 aura, you know. So how about it being bad for society? You say it's bad for me as an individual is it bad for me because I'm addicted have I become chemically hooked You have. The founders of the great Silicon Valley spying empires like Facebook have publicly... The founders of the great Silicon Valley spying empire. Spying empire is plural! Yeah, that's a good line I like that. ...the founders of the great Silicon Valley spying empires like Facebook have publicly declared that they intentionally included addictive schemes in their designs Now we have to say

1:39:36 This is what I would call almost a stealthy addiction. It's it's a statistical addiction What it says, we will get the broad population to use the services a lot We'll get them hooked through a scheme of rewards and punishment And the rewards are when you're retweeted The punishment is when your treated badly by others online and then within that will very gradually start to leverage that, to change them. So it's this very kind of stealthy manipulation of the population so it's not as dramatic as a heroin addict or gambling addict but it is the same principle Okay again very calm cool rational makes a lot of sense and obvious follow-up question is okay who's manipulating who and what's going on? But whose doing the manipulating I mean there isn't some master

1:40:31 sort of Wizard of Oz sitting behind a screen, isn't it? Well this is the peculiarity of the situation. The people who run the tech companies like Google and Facebook are not doing the manipulating they're doing the addicting but the manipulating which rides on the back of the addicting is the paying customer of such a company so uh... and many of those customers are not at all bad influences they might simply be trying to promote their cars or their perfumes or whatever I have sympathy for them because they're concerned that if they don't put money into the system nobody will know about them anymore. How is it different to just television advertising or billboard advertising or anything else? The difference is the constant feedback loop so when you watch the television, the television isn't watching you when you see the billboard, the billboard isn't seeing you and vast numbers of people see the same thing on television and see the same billboard When you use these new designs social media search

1:41:27 YouTube when you see these things you're being observed constantly and algorithms are taking that information and changing what you see next And they're searching and searching and searching, and they're just blind robots There's no evil genius here until they find those patterns those little tricks that get you and make you change your behavior So it was this interview. I think probably in particular the part earlier where he spoke about The reward and punishment system of social media and smartphones in general. The interactions... Is he doing this tour for? Oh, you know I don't even know

CHAPTER 27 / 43 Discussion

The Zen TV Experiment and Alpha States

The "Zen TV Experiment" from 1998 demonstrated how television viewers enter an "alpha state," a trance-like condition where the mind builds stories to bridge "technical events" like cuts and zooms. This state makes viewers highly susceptible to advertising and emotional manipulation. The experiment showed that when the entertainment stops, viewers become irrationally angry, highlighting the addictive nature of the medium.

zen tv experiment· alpha state· technical events· media psychology· storytelling

1:42:05 But it was in conjunction with a producer who reminded me of something we used to talk about. It's an experiment that was done in the classroom, sadly the author of this paper which I've put into show notes yet again...I used to do once a year and its been several years since we brought this up. It was written in 1998 so you have to take that into mind but im going to bring it into 2018 version. Im gonna try! It was called The Zen TV Experiment. You recall this John? I vaguely remember. You talked about it before Right, well it's even and really you have to read the entire paper to really appreciate what went into it but it was a teacher who in his class did an experiment with his kids with television at the time you know real internet was coming and we had the dot-com bubble but it was still TV was really really prevalent delivery method for entertainment and commercialism. I'm going interrupt for a quick second

1:43:01 The book is called the arguments that you should delete all your social media accounts right now by Jared Lanier just came out hence the first question of the interview makes nothing but sense Thank You. I got to get that then want to read what he has to say, I don't think it'll be anything new But I'm interested so this teacher did the experiment with this class and the He wanted them to create a paper which would be four arguments for the elimination of television. And he said, you need to do these three experiments and then we'll talk about it in next class. The first experiment was watch any TV show for 15 minutes with the sound off. The second one was watch any news program for 15 minutes with the sound off

1:43:50 Then the third and he implored. He said you really have to do all these experiments and the timing is important So we had 15 minutes of just a TV show with the sound off 15 minutes With a news program with the sound off, and then he asked them to watch the television for 30 minutes with it being the entire television being off and A couple of things became apparent in the discussion that ensued The children were outraged obvious, for obvious reasons. They were outraged that they were made to sit in front of a black screen—a box essentially—for 30 minutes without anything coming out. They thought it was stupid... you wasted my time with this! This is nuts!" Of course after some discussion they all realized that they probably waste their time. Thirty minutes is wasted at all kinds of places in the day but the conclusion is that if this thing does not entertain you

1:44:49 then you get pissed off at it. So without the sound on, it's annoying on a TV show without the sound on news program is annoying but man is really annoying when that is just the box because we are transformed into and this is not new We're transform into an alpha state when watching television And that was the second part of his conclusion Is He made all the kids a part of the experiment he made all the kids count the technical events during any television program and any news program and Technical events are assumed. That's a technical event It's not something that you could your eyes don't zoom in in real life Your eyes, or you don't also jump from one side of the person to the other while you're listening to them speak that is all technical events something is being built and

1:45:35 And you are creating the bridge in your mind. You think you're calmly watching television, but you're not. Your mind is racing and is creating all the images you need between those shots between the zooms between the interior then we're exterior where at the airport when a different country your mind is building that story and We've been trained older people more than young but they have different issues. We've been trained to go into this alpha state of To and we are a cult. We are people of storytellers You know, we love a story and stories art is how everything is communicated these look how the kids in cages you build a story? You promote the story and people fill in all of the blanks So this is a fantastic state for you to be in for advertising Particularly if it's a little bit coordinated with whatever you're watching

1:46:28 Almost as an aside, what is interesting about television news if you're talking about the talking heads on the news channel there are very few technical events. Sure they go to videotape and then there's someone standing up there and then they switch to package But it's intentionally done that way because then it feels more real. Oh, this is reality This is this is not some show that I'm watching where I'm bouncing around This is a this is a reality taking place I better pay attention and you're put at your the world is in essence condensed down to almost no technical events But you're still building these stories so that's the essence of Of that experiment but what I've been noticing

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Instagram Narratives and the Trance of Social Media

Modern social media platforms like Instagram induce the same "alpha state" as television, with users building elaborate personal narratives about the people they follow based on curated images. This "trance" allows for easy manipulation of thoughts and emotions, as users are often unaware they are in a state of high suggestibility. The segment calls for a new "Zen Phone Experiment" to help people recognize these digital trances.

instagram· alpha state· social media· narrative· media consumption

1:47:11 and with women in particular, Instagram. And it started with Tina and she scrolls through her Instagram on her iPad and I say oh who's that? Because I'm seeing like some dude like who is that dude you're following on Instagram? Who is that hottie girl you're following on Instagram? She said this guy his family they've got a kid the kid is doing this... She has this entire story built and she follows these people's lives based upon pictures, which we all know of course you know that she knows it too I mean on the intellectual level these these picture and not singling her out It says. I think this is really what how why Instagram is so incredibly popular Just based upon pictures which are you know ginned up posed filtered etc looks fantastic

1:48:04 Her mind is creating the story now, you know the guy who has no the kid and it's great And I just got a puppy and everything. He may be beating his wife behind-the-scenes We don't know because seriously she's building a story and It's not celebrities. It really isn't its you know someone who does yoga Someone who cooks in a certain way You know they follow the hashtags but they build these stories in their minds and that's where we are today Where and we're very feeble, we're not really all that great at it just yet But the the alpha state that in this experiment in the Zen TV experiment you're in when you're watching television That is the same state You are in when you're looking at your phone your smartphone And that is why people look like zombies because just when you're watching TV with the family or your friends No borders no nations. No friends if you have any left

1:48:57 Look to the left and the right while you're watching something on television. It is the same look people have when they're looking at their phones, but the stories... The gaps could video really it works But it's really not working as well as the singular pictures And we are building these narratives in our mind in between all of the pictures So when you get these little elements, kids crying. It's not even a picture it's just audio kids crying You see cage you see all these different things the narrative that is built in your mind when you're in that alpha state That is what's being manipulated and it's being done very sometimes not even that subtly but we are shit at it We don't know how to control our thoughts It is so easy to manipulate people in that moment And that is where I think we're in a very dangerous place

1:49:47 Because we're not aware of what's happening. We are literally in a trance when we are on social media and Interacting in it in a social context on our smartphones So we need to come up with the new version of then, you know The Zen phone experiment or something so we can help people understand exactly what's going on It's also great You know for if we were smart enough we could figure out how to really manipulate people into listening to this show but I think that's the direction we should go. That's what you're talking about, like to use this knowledge to save you. I want to say mankind now there's not a lot of difference between the babies crying and that audio clip and old time radio where there was a theater of the mind and you do the same thing is not a new phenomenon. No, no, but what's new? But hold on before you go there. What's new is our remember

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Storytelling in Sales and Nouveau Celebrities

The power of storytelling is identified as the most effective tool in sales and modern media, with "nouveau celebrities" like yoga instructors on Instagram amassing millions of followers by exploiting this human trait. These influencers are often more effective than traditional Hollywood celebrities because they integrate their narratives directly into the user's social feed. The discussion emphasizes that humans are naturally "people of stories."

storytelling· instagram· influencers· celebrities· marketing

1:50:43 If it's not entertaining you, you're pissed off. So when you're looking at this phone and where is my fucking entertainment? I'm in my alpha state, ready to be entertained There is a funny meme, oh I am entertained What?! Someone saying something that I don't like You get pissed off And this is where the binge culture comes from too John Like cereal! This is perfect example We want hear story we've been trained into listening an believing stories With the same words, you build two different movies in your head. Well again serial is a throwback to the 30s audio storytelling it's just modernized but it's the same thing as the theater of the mind I don't...again I think this is something that we've been doing for awhile and people do like stories that there's a known fact among sales folk

1:51:35 That you really your best way to selling someone is to do it through storytelling. Well our own show, You Come for the Deconstruction, You Stay for the Stories I'm sure Could be And i'm only pointing this out For the good, for the mental health of our own producers I'm not trying to save the world No, yes. But again they do have these phones they do watch television and they do go into whatever state they're going to. Alpha State. I personally don't get mad when i'm watching something that's not entertaining

1:52:12 I understand. The difference between the radio plays and television, which have been going on forever is now everyone...the stories are rampant there's many more stories and people this is why I still feel all these mergers content that people are creating for television of course it's always gonna be a demand for that but the real fun is people looking into these black mirrors—I'll just use it and creating the story in their head. It's a modern phenomenon, it is different than anything we've seen before when it comes to just creating a story based upon images... In serialized fashion actually I should say And its not celebrities! Its not going to come from Hollywood, I don't think Long term This isn't tomorrow but long term I disagree Okay

1:53:04 Because I think celebrities are designed for this to maximize this and to exploit it more than normal people. And, uh, I think the celebrities will always be if you just look at the numbers on Instagram and you look at the followers for any borderline. I've seen celebrities I get here's if something irks me, I'm on Twitter. I'm going through, you know, I'm seeing somebody saying something so check them out And I never heard of this person. I don't know what she or he does, usually it's often a she. She's all dolled up in her little photo there and I look over and she's got five million followers! So I looked at what is she doing? She said that she has something...she's an aerobic instructor or something. Every once in awhile I go check around to see another nouveau celebrity

1:53:58 They're celebrities, and they're exploiting it. They're doing it on purpose because there are people that could be actual celebrities I should have prefaced as you know mainstream celebrities Hollywood celebrities the just this you're making my point for me It's the yoga instructor that has she's not just a yoga instructor She's on YouTube yeah But that's not a Hollywood celebrity It's the, I don't see the difference. Okay it doesn't matter i just want to get that out and then I will close out the OTG segment with a native ad how about that not for us but a native ad that I'm sure ran everywhere across the country smart speakers like Google Home and Amazon Echo are everywhere from the living room to the kitchen they're the fastest growing electronic device on the market right now Alexa turn on the light

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Alexa for Hospitality and Hotel Privacy Concerns

Amazon is partnering with Marriott and other hotel chains to install Echo smart speakers in guest rooms under the "Alexa for Hospitality" program. While marketed as a convenience for ordering room service and calling housekeeping, the move raises significant privacy concerns regarding voice recordings in private spaces. Amazon claims that recordings will be deleted daily and that guests can opt-out by muting the device.

amazon alexa· marriott· hospitality· privacy· smart speakers

1:54:48 And this morning, Amazon's Alexa is ready to go on vacation with you. Order me an ahi tuna salad. The online shopping giant revealing it will soon put echo smart speakers in thousands of hotel rooms right next to your bed Amazon is partnering with Marriott, Westin, Aloft and St Regis hotels which you don't think that's an ad do you? Have more than 1 million hotel rooms around the world This was the today show I might point out It's called Alexa for Hospitality What can I do around here? Guests can ask the smart speaker to order room service, call housekeeping and make restaurant reservations without picking up the phone. Stop! Play the whole thing out. I'll take notes and then I'll bitch later. No go ahead bitch

1:55:34 It's like, wait a minute. So instead of me dialing 42... Yes room service hello and saying I'd like to get a burger with and they said what do you what kind of burger? You want I want to tell you where well done they asked me questions because they want to get it little right instead i use the same wordage to Alexa and then leave it up to the what the gods of chance that I get the right burger? What idiot will do that when you can just do it, you still have to say the words. I'd like to order a burger and a glass of wine and some french fries and i need to use some this and that... You have to tell Alexa why don't you just tell them cut out the middleman!

1:56:14 That's kind of, well it's an ad you know but there is more creepiness to it than that. Of course. Well play the rest and I get one last complaint Room service call housekeeping and make restaurant reservations without picking up the phone It kinda shows that our world is evolving so I think it would be a good idea! It's really good idea our world is evolving! Our world is evolving into shit! Think it'd be kinda weird in hotels You always have somebody listening watching um...it can be a little concerning In response to customer worries, Amazon says hotel guests will choose whether they'll share a room with Alexa. Guests can ask for the Echo to be taken out of the room. The company also says hotels cannot access your voice recordings and no personal information needs to be shared with the Echo in order to use it. What should families know to take any precautions to protect their privacy?

1:57:06 I love that! This is the new world order and these devices are gonna follow us wherever we go. That's right button on it that they can use to silence it and then to make sure its not listening So Joe a lot of us have one of these already in our houses is it kind of keeping a record of all the things we asked for. Well that's right, the echo does record your commands and questions even in a hotel room but Amazon is telling us that you will actually delete those at the end every single day even if they're saying multiple nights but we've got Alexa on mute here, but I want to show you a little bit more of what she can do we're going to unmute the button social start listening here. When some cool open

1:58:09 The swimming pool is open from 6am to 11pm. Wow! Awesome! She can answer a whole bunch of different questions. This is actually coming to a bunch of different Marriott and other hotel chains later this year guys Can you order room service? Yes I can! Get us some fries! Get us some fries, this is great! It's the new old art arts here Alright well here I got a story So I decide that I'm gonna get an Alexis So I get it shipped, it comes to the house. I put it up by hooking up and do everything you need to get all set up and I say Alexa turn on the lights right nothing happened so I sent it back. That happened to you? I said to Alexa turn on the lights didn't turn on anything good is that crap this is bullcrap! You can't tell her to turn on the lights because they can't do it if you need to have all the light gear what

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Audiology and Genetic Hearing Loss Discovery

A visit to an audiologist revealed a unique "genetic issue" where hearing loss is concentrated in the mid-range frequencies while the lows and highs remain perfect. This "tough loss" explains the need for high-volume headphones to register mid-range sounds. The experience highlights the differences between professional audiology clinics and retail centers like Costco, which often have restrictive policies regarding external reports.

audiology· hearing aids· costco· genetic hearing loss· frequency range

1:59:14 You're too funny, man. Anyway before we go into our shortened break I did want to tell you that I'm reaching singularity bro. Oh well then play Grandma's House ISO It involves a trip to grandma's house. What is that? I'm reaching singularity. Yeah, it involves the trip to grandma's house I forgot to mention on the last show that i went to Costco. Remember we were talking about that? I would go to Costco. Yeah, yeah, Costco you fight well... You hated Costco! Yep To an extreme for no good reason because they wouldn't take your money Yes and I went to Costco had a very enjoyable experience with the crew there And it was as I mainly enjoyed Tina dancing through the aisles she's always wanted to go to Costco She used to be a big Costco member and but I was there for the hearing aids

2:00:19 So I go right you need a hearing aid. Yeah, well, I didn't know if I did and I went to the Everyone that who emailed me? I got a couple of saying you really need to have a professional Audiologist look at your ears or check you out which it's Costco provides that obviously But everyone said Costco is the place ago Costco hearing aids are the best they're the cheapest It's the way to go but when I said okay, I'd love to make an appointment to say well We don't have one till the end of July Yeah, actually yeah like 26 of July. Okay I'll take whatever you got is it but you know I can certainly get an audiologist report from somewhere else and no No We don't accept that so flag number one which will come back to later. I despise that You know this is like opticians they always trying to trick you into take the glaucoma test you Don't need that like oh you really need that? No, I don't there's no law That says you gotta do that just give me some eyeglasses

2:01:17 I really don't like the ripoff. But, not only just for the show but for myself as well... ...I made an appointment with the Texas Hearing Center and went to have my ears tested! With the audiologists. I've learned a lot about this industry. Did you talk to the audiologists about this Costco thing where they demand that... Yes, yeah, yeah. Well, about the industry itself, audiologists are mainly women And Dr. Amanda, I said you know why do i see women everywhere who are audiologists? Well it's actually the perfect combination of... You're not a medical doctor like an optician you have to get certified for it. Take a test and get diploma hang on the wall but its working with people very flexible hours and you make decent money! Okay so then a lot of women fit into that category she says

2:02:15 Is that interesting? I talked about the Costco thing. He said, yeah you'll learn a lot about prices and people are charging five six seven thousand dollars for newfangled devices totally crap And then we went into the little booth for my test And I go through the whole thing with the warbles and can you hear these conversations, etc. And I'd spoken with a doctor before and said my main thing is that my headphones are super loud they go to 11, I have an amplifier after the output just to crank it up even more I have problem hearing. I'm always saying, what? I'm always saying hey you know what excuse me pardon me could you say that again sorry darn didn't hear ya and I'm annoyed by myself and I would hate to be in a situation at certain point where like I didn't hear it but i'll just ignore it yeah the next thing you know you'll be wearing a puffy shirt on some television show haha the frilly shirt

2:03:13 So it is, and it's not uncommon for people who have hearing issues to fall into isolation depression etc. And she said oh let me guess problem hearing female voices in children I said I don't buy children but female voice yeah that's my girlfriend I'm having a hard time hearing her. She said well that's the frequency range etc so we do the test then you know we sit down after the test here's what you do not want to hear your audiologist say Oh that's a tough loss I'm like, what? Yeah. That's a tough one. What are you talking about? Well you have a genetic issue. Oh! I was saying a genetic issue. She says look at your chart and i'm looking at it right now goes from 250 Hertz to 8 kilohertz and she says what is fast so its really a half moon dip from the 250 which is at the healthy level for a man of 20

2:04:13 It dips all the way down into the un... just, I mean it falls down immediately into this curve. Sounds like a bad microphone curve. It's the inverse of what you'd want and actually It's kind of how my EQ settings would be when I'm listening to the radio. Where you have the highs up a little bit... Yeah, yeah boost in the middle all the time. That probably accounts for the good sound you create Yes, yes and yes. Also the high-end 8 kilohertz perfect 20 year old she said I don't know because I explained it look when I was in the 80s I started on radio and Was working for the government station And they had everyone's ears tested that was part of the government regulation for on air presenters And they said to me bro you keep this up then You're gonna be deaf you can have problems later on and I said here I am and this is why? I'm in your office, and I fully expect that's what happened She said no

2:05:11 They said it's very interesting. There is something in your genetic disposition that has protected the areas where most people run into trouble, the lows and the highs. You have exactly the opposite where the lows and the highs are fine but your mids everything from I mean right after 300 Hertz boom it goes down to 1500 Hertz It flatlines, then 2000 is a little up, little dip right in the middle of the spectrum. And then 3K it's flat lined again and starts to go up into 8000 Hz and that's where it's perfect." He said what has happened now is in general people hearing goes down with age because you normally have kind of a flattish line all these frequencies register but because they were already so low to begin with

2:06:04 Now they have dipped below where you can hear things properly It says you haven't at the whole You're basically hearing lows and highs and you're losing the rest of the spectrum And the reason why you have your headphones cranked so loud is because you then get those lows Those mids. They hit a level where you're registering them again, and it's good What I enjoyed so much about this is an audiologist is someone who understands sound I can never oh I can talk to you about this This is great Says, but this is tough loss because hearing aids are not made for this particular issue. We're going to have to customize and yeah Yeah But now this is a jing no

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Customizing High-End Hearing Aids and DSP Chips

Testing the Widex hearing aid system revealed the power of multi-channel Digital Signal Processing (DSP) to customize audio environments. The devices allow for individual frequency boosting and compression, effectively providing "bionic hearing" in settings like restaurants. Despite the high retail cost of $2,800, the underlying chips are estimated to cost very little, suggesting a significant markup in the hearing aid industry.

widex· hearing aids· dsp chips· bluetooth· bionic hearing

2:06:46 I will have to go to a multi-channel, in fact i've had a demo unit since I did this. You have to go to a multi channel and she sets it up so this has 15 channels then these are all frequency ranges not only can you boost or decrease each individual channel but you can also set the compression on each frequency. Compression, my middle name Adam C Curry the c stands for compression so we start tweaking this and I am blown away! I don't want to take them off when i go to bed it's like wearing my podcast rig 24 hours a day It is phenomenal! Its also you know a guy who was kind of hearing everything for the first time

2:07:40 But I and of course now, I want to go in and tweak everything. And you know that oh we have an app It's like oh yeah base mid treble Thanks That's not gonna help I need to get into the guts of this thing and it is fantastic but i need to tweak stuff for instance IP really loud at least in my ears. It's like Niagara waterfall You know? It's just crazy! I hear there are certain tones that just slam out on me but man Even if you don't have a hearing problem the idea that you can customize your this is where the singularity common comes from you can

2:08:18 You can customize it is an experience that I hope everyone has. I don't want, I don't wish you hearing loss but to be able to tweak this now... So then I go looking around and like I need a program there's another so I have the ones that hook over your ear they're quite small actually the Widex is the ones that I'm testing out W-I-D-E-X So there's a little unit goes behind the ear and then is a wire, and then the actual speaker unit is in your ear canal. And it's virtually invisible especially where my hair is over the top of the ears so you don't see it

2:08:59 But I want to be able to customize it and of course that software, then you have to have an induction loop. And there's all kinds of crazy ways to do it That is only for audiologists so I'm looking around I'm experimenting by the way they also have Bluetooth So if you play something this Bluetooth connected in the iPhone which I don't want to carry around Has a whole hearing aid section? And so yeah If your iPhone isn't within reach and you press play, all of a sudden you hear the sound deep embedded in your ear. You never put headphones on or earphones on and yet you can still hear the room sound it's very bizarre effect but I go looking for how to program these things and these devices

2:09:46 They don't cost more than 20 bucks to make. Alibaba is filled with them, 38 channels all kinds of crazy, of course you have to order 10 thousand of them but They're looking at $3 to 5 dollars in huge order numbers. This is a scam of epic proportions! She's looking at $2,800 for it which is much cheaper than multi-channels I've seen but then I look at Costco they've got 48 channels for $1700 but they are making super bank on this And I think it's just fascinating how, you know the DSP has now been put in your ears and you can really...I mean you can control each microphone individually. It has a little mini array on it and so you could be sitting at a restaurant. You could- I just want to tune into what's happening. I want bionic hearing is what I want! And I can tell you it is fantastic. I should have done this much earlier

2:10:42 And I am damaged though, I'm a damaged individual. I should start a Patreon because I have genetic disposition and it does not work with the headphones I think that the idea of getting a layman, not people with bad hearing but what you suggest which is getting upset at these and putting in your ear because kids love this stuff. I remember when i was a kid they used to have shotgun mics and these big ones they use on sports channels where you have a football game, there's this guy with his big huge dish with the mic in the middle. And then you can hear their quarterback grunting and... But the idea of having these things in a restaurant and you're like a spook? I betcha they use these things! And you got to conversation two

2:11:36 Two tables down and you want to just tune into that? Yeah, you tune in. Tune everything else out You could probably do it And now last night It's like can we turn the TV up just a little bit I mean wow did We go from one end of the spectrum to the other people like yeah, it's really loud Adam Could you turn the TV down just a little bit you know at least is banging on the walls or like too loud And now they can't hear it and I'm sitting there just perfect. I hear perfectly Please can we turn it up? Just a little bit It's really it's really a phenomenal experience how long you had been having these things in your ear, uh, I went Tuesday yeah So Tuesday afternoon to this morning and yeah, I've forgotten that they're on And you know has a cool little voice if you if you long press the button behind your ear it goes party mode

2:12:30 Which is my favorite. You know, party mode it has music mode little Google a woman talking to you who you can also configure different voice but it's all one chip It's all based on one chip Or you know there was different versions of the chip, and that's just miniaturization. What specific chip are we talking about here? Maybe it is an investment opportunity. DSP chips are a dime a dozen There's so many of them when I was doing the podcaster Pro. I learned all about this stuff I know how to program them too, and you can basically program them with Arduino code But you gotta have the interfaces and all that stuff. And I've only just started researching, but i'd love to be able to find something that is not thousands of dollars That gives me complete control over especially the compression in each individual channel. It's just it's fascinating Okay well that's the end of our show today I'm gonna show my school by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do this Oh yeah, that would be fab They're on No Agenda

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Knighting Ceremony and Listener Donations

The show acknowledges several high-value donors, including Sir Donald Borowski and Jamie Scott, who contributed to the value-for-value model. A request for a "vocal fry" jingle is honored, and various sound effects are played for long-time listeners. The segment reinforces the community-funded nature of the podcast and the rewards for those who support the show's production.

knighthood· donations· sir donald borowski· jamie scott· vocal fry

2:13:36 And we have no donors. Oh, no way! We do have some donors. So actually our top donors are Alexandra Tristan in Saint Cyr in Seattle $141 and 42 cents Then we have our buddy Sir Donald Borowski in Spokane Valley 138 38 and he of course is a member of the United Federation of Plants or at least you must think so since he has letterhead And he writes a note, here is my belated double vote for the show to continue. May the sanity continue! Cheers and beers Sir Donald of the Fireballs Baron of Spokane Valley WA60MI73s. 73's? 73's. 73's. 73's. Uh... Sir Callistra in North Attleboro Massachusetts. 13333

2:14:34 Jamie Scott Yes, oh he says can a knight get some just send your cash karma for our ICO and Jobs jobs jobs karma for a friend. Yeah We'll put that at the end for sure Jamie Scott in Plano Texas $111 11 cents Brian wife fells um 104 40 no jingles on Julie Gregory in Albany New York 9999 she said a note in yeah It's right here as you can tell Let me get the glasses I dropped on the floor. Alright, she's got a card I believe. Yes! I give money and have a request Years ago you aired a very funny vocal fry jingle Please play it for me

2:15:23 Also, she needs a de-douching. De-douching? Hey... You've been de-douched! That's not very nice of her. But I don't remember that! Uh let me see vocal fry and i dont remember jingle oh well yes maybe it was this one In the morning, this is Sir Jeff Smith saying say no to vocal fry. The more you know in the morning And there's another one? In the morning This is Sir Jeff Smith Okay that's without the music and we have the podcast warning We got a lot of different things You know try this The following podcast may cause vocal fry Listener discretion is advised

2:16:13 I've never heard that one. What do we do? We have the best producers. I don't remember that one. Vogolfra! Okay, I think we've succeeded. You must have covered them all. Pretty much. Frank Pugh in Tallahassee Florida $75 guys thank Jonathan Riesman in Maplewood Massachusetts or Missouri 73 33 73s. Kilo Echo Zero India Hotel Tango

2:16:51 Now he is K- That's what I just said. Just did that! Yeah, I was trying to write KE0. Okay Chris Engler 7306 and he's got a birthday... should be on the birthday list? Yes yes he is. Alan Covado III in Midlothian Virginia 6789 Donald Napier 6660 Cute cute kuda my I think it's Kutamaya. That is how you pronounce that Cal Kutamaya 5973 in Elk Grove village He actually sent something in if your Dutch, that's a pretty funny name Why? K-u-t-e m e ie r yeah It's hard to explain its vile never mind the vile good to me he's also member of the it sounds like c word whore and

2:17:49 Okay, got it. He's not a member of the Starfleet But he did send up a letterhead Which I think means we have to read it from the holiday in rolling meadows perfect area boom Chicago's ultimate holidome oh What does that mean? No sounds good should visit Oh He says, thanks for the great podcast. Just started listening went back to October 2016 podcasts for great infotainment I need a de-douching. You've been de-douched And he's got some requests you can take or leave later in the show missile launch M80 and that little girl yay 73s! Another hand is in the can

2:18:40 Cal I think it's cute of my so we want missile sound effect. Yeah, little girl yay in an m80 Which I don't know we have one of course We have a lady you wanna maybe I give you M 80 the hearing for a man. Oh not that one Fail fail epic fail yeah Where am I? Oh, Dean Roker 5510 double nickels on the dime from the Great Britain. Sir Aubrey of the Lower Arkansas in Texarkana, Arkansas with double nickels on the dime. Janetta Jansen in St Cloud Minnesota

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Sir Chris Knight of the Vortex Ring State

Chris Sundberg is officially knighted as "Sir Chris, Knight of the Vortex Ring State" following a substantial donation. A helicopter pilot by trade, Sundberg discovered the show via the *Kaiser Report* and credits the podcast with improving his mental health by providing a "no-nonsense" approach to news. The hosts discuss the "Vortex Ring State" as a dangerous aerodynamic condition for helicopters.

knighthood· chris sundberg· kaiser report· helicopter pilot· value-for-value

2:19:18 5220. Chris Sundberg in Mercer Island, Washington. There's a night he coming up on Sunday? Yeah! He is on the night list. He did...he's a new knight and send his all this documentation into prove it and he sent along typewritten note then I just works comes to $1,030 dollars I thought it was be worth reading some of it This is area 51 plus 38 cent donation completes my path to knighthood, which is not a destination but merely a stop on our V4V journey. Blockchain accounting for knighthood enclosed. NJNK no need for de-douching I've been grateful and faithful supporter of the FV4V model value for value every month since being hit in the mouth after seeing Adam on RT's Kaiser report." Oh cool!

2:20:06 How about that? It did work. It worked! Thank you very much, Chris. That's cool I look forward to the ceremony coming right up To say that my stumbling onto no agenda has been a blessing would be an understatement Your keen know-nonsense approach to understanding what is popularly called news Has been a tonic for my mental health and I no longer give a rip what goes on the M5N collusion or not Note to douchebags, donate now as we need to build a war chest that cover the added cost when Adam and John are doing this show from assisted living. What do you mean when? As a helicopter pilot I'd like to be known as Sir Chris Knight of the Vortex Ring State. Beautiful! Not that he ever want to be in that but yes good one. Vortex ring also known as... He could have been sir settling with power but he wants vortex ring that's good

2:21:03 So, that's Chris. Sir Eric VM the baronet of the valley in Van Nuys California came in with a 5038 and he says his dad was cool He didn't get to wish him a happy Father's Day sir DH slammer 5038 Donald ripple we have Dame bang-bang on the list I hope Dame bang-bang a list for what? Oh yes she's on this birthday list yep got it This is, I don't know if there's all this details on there or should you just say it? All I have is happy birthday to Baronettus Dame Bang-Bang from Sir D.H. Slammer, Sir Andrew, Lady Simona and Master Emmett. We'll do that again in the birthdays in a minute Donald Ripple in Dresden Ohio 5038 Andrew Benz in Imperial Missouri 5005 Scott Lavender in Montgomery Texas $50 these are fifty dollar donors name and location for the few there are

2:22:02 Bad day, bad day. Daniel LaBoie in Bath Michigan, Valerie Steensland, Ryan Kruse Alexander Diamond in Abbotsford BC, Sir Other Brother Norman Oklahoma Andrew Gusek in Greensboro North Carolina George Wushay or Wushet, I guess. Universal City Tent in Texas and last Thomas Dillon in Laverne California he's got a happy Father's Day up there for we do have a Happy Father's Day call out from Ryan Cruz. Happy Father's Day to our borderline father of the year Tom Cruise pronounced like the actor Tom Cruise pronounced like the actor from Ryan Angie Silas and Aubrey

2:22:56 Also another Father's Day call out from Sir Other Brother, wishing you both a happy Father's Day and keep up the great work you're doing. I depend on it." Okay that should do it. That's it? No we have Andrew Gusek? Yeah I don't have an Andrew Gusek. Oh, I have Andrew Gusek Greensboro North Carolina and $50 I have George Wushet oh no I ran these guys oh i'm sorry I was backed up ah my mistake I was doing the birthdays getting everything ready someone has to drive the train I got Dylan I got a wush it in the goose I was driving the train I'm sorry that's what happens and I'm sorry about these donations are we doing something wrong is my question to you quick meeting

2:23:44 Oh, quick meeting. Well let's have a... Let's ask people! We have people that can show you how to do it too. Oh really? I don't want... No no no because that's really...? You wanna make my email box now horrible? Nah, I don't want that. AdamMcCurry.com I think we do what people ask us to do Well i think so too but apparently they don't uh maybe it's the... I know what it could be Off The Grid They hate it. They hate off the grid so much, even though it's useful information they're still clinging to their devices like Charlton Heston was clinging to his guns. So they're conflicted?

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Global Meetups and the No Agenda Roundtable

Upcoming *No Agenda* meetups are announced for Toronto, coinciding with a Jordan Peterson event, and Tel Aviv, organized by Sir Brian of London. The Tel Aviv event will focus on free speech and the legal situation of Tommy Robinson. The segment concludes with the traditional "Roundtable" roll call, welcoming new knights and dames into the show's honorary leadership.

meetups· toronto· israel· jordan peterson· tommy robinson

2:24:23 Maybe, and they can't... And they're clinging so hard if they go to write a check. Their hand is like it can't be done. Can't type anything. So as usual it's my fault? Yes! Because of that stupid Nokia phone. Okay well I'll stop the off-the-grid segment then No no you keep going on. I think it's important people just have to listen to it Especially the responses you get from the Millennials. That's what I'm killing this show, bro If the show is going down it's going down off the grid Well we do have other things to do but not many all right meetups no agenda Toronto Meetup just before the Jordan B Peterson event in Toronto 5 o'clock July 19th at biff's bistro

2:25:21 Right across from the story centers and say hey, no agenda show we should listen to at least once yeah Get get Jordan Peterson saying I always listened to the No Agenda Show And have them do it with a British accent too. That'll be very funny We also I believe this may be one of the first I could be wrong. We have an Israel meetup planned Very good. I'm happy you guys are taking The Lost Connections advice and getting together in sorry Who's in charge of that, Brian? Yes. Sir Brian of London Tuesday the 26th of June so that's coming up 6 p.m at and this is one of my favorite whenever I'm in Tel Aviv I go to The Dancing Camel That... The Dancing Camel? It's a strip club! I don't know The Dancing Camel in Tel Aviv Tuesday June 26 6pm free speech event

2:26:16 And he says, uh...he will be talking at Sir Brian will be talking about Tommy Robinson. But he says it'll be worth a no-agenda—oh I guess he's already there talking about Tommy Robinson and he wants people to come too He's promoting his event! Now i get it. Well meetup is good if you can do that too. Yeah but he's promoting his free speech event that's okay He'd well time. Yeah, it's Tommy Robin We don't cover it much in the show because has been blacked out yeah well is something very fishy about it Yeah, there's a lot of fishiness but actually sir Brian of London does regular YouTube updates About Tommy Robinson he's got a lot of inside scoops very interesting you can follow I would defer to the night from Israel The night from Tel Aviv for that

2:27:09 That's right, another show we hope coming up on Sunday. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water just send your cash Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs you've got karma Before we find out what we know, we have a couple of birthdays to take care. Sir Richard Unterbergers has happy birthday to his amazing wife Laurie and that's belated she celebrated on June 14th Chris Engler turns 45 tomorrow June 22nd And sir DH Slammer and the entire family say happy birthday today in bang-bang Of course we do as well Happy Birthday Day in Bang Bang! Everybody from your buddies here at The Best Podcast In The Universe

2:28:08 We have one nighting, you wanted to say something? Yeah. I was thinking about this why it was the donation so often and probably not the OTG...I know what it is! Okay What's changed that's not the OTG been doing that forever It's either my recorder playing which I have not done recently You know this or which is that's the No Agenda theme No agenda! Mm-hmm Or just a number of sound effects and noises that we make during the show. It's not as much, we don't hear the in-the morning is often as you once did." Oh that's an interesting point maybe do need to more. Now play some recorder. Okay let me get this... This will fix it! Here we go.

2:29:15 Okay, well that's a good test like a blues hit. Oh yeah? Yeah We'll see how that does in the donations for Sunday genius again The brilliance and musical stylings of John C Devorak Yes, the troll room says some of them are saying they are uncontrollably donating at the moment It is paying off in spades Alright grab your grab your grab your blade man. We got to get Chris taking care of you To the roundtable the Noah's and the Knights and dames happy to have another whirly bird guy here in in the house, and

2:30:03 I'm very proud to pronounce the KU. Sir Chris, Knight of the Vortex Ring State! May you never be in the vortex ring state but welcome to The Roundtable for you my friend we have hookers and blow We got rentboys Chardonnay Parliaments and pale ale Waifus And waffles Steel Reserve and black mounds We got pog and poi Dame Elise Limoncello and salmon Breast milk and pabulum Beer and blunts We got redheads and ryes Geishas and sake Bong hits and bourbon Sparkling cider escorts Ginger ale and gerbils Oh yes and mutton and mead, especially for rotary friends. Go to noageneration.com slash rings Eric. The show will hook you up for sure and thank you very much for your courage in supporting us in our value-for-value model tailwinds. Here's another thing for the social justice warriors I want to get these clips out of the way. No running water one okay

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Thomas Markle on Trump and Hungary Immigration Laws

Thomas Markle, father of Meghan Markle, revealed in an interview that Prince Harry encouraged him to "give Donald Trump a chance." Meanwhile, Hungary has intensified its immigration crackdown by amending its constitution to prohibit the settlement of "alien populations." These stories highlight the global reach of the immigration debate and its intersection with celebrity culture.

thomas markle· meghan markle· donald trump· hungary· immigration

2:32:41 It's already distressing. Hey, did you hear Megan Markle's dad? Oh, you know I saw this the headline that I saw there was like a clickbait headline about it. Yes, total click bait! Yeah, clickbait. And I never click baited it was off to just still researching something else and then I forgot all about until now that you mentioned it. No! Alright, I'll click bait you and pay it off right here this is Megan Markle's dad They also apparently talked about American politics and President Trump Our conversation was...I was complaining that I didn't like Donald Trump

2:33:18 He said give Donald Trump a chance. I sort of disagreed with that, but still I carry... That was his politics and I have my politics." Sounds like a rift in the family! And of course that is spun by Dimench A as a... He's a Trump supporter he's all in MAGA! Or in this case it would be Mega. Make England great again Here's a Trump report, the only one I have. I'm not big on this Trump guy we talk about him too much here's the Trump California Hungary report

2:33:57 And in the day's other news, the Trump administration urged a federal judge in Sacramento to block three California laws that protect undocumented immigrants. Among other things, the laws bar police from giving out information on people in jail and ban immigration officials from entering work sites without a warrant The immigration issue is roiling the European Union as well. And, today Hungary intensified its crackdown. Lawmakers there amended the Constitution to say what they call alien population cannot be settled in Hungary. The vote came on World Refugee Day

2:34:35 I like the timing. Timing is everything, isn't it? That's great! Get the Clooney clips ready because as we talk about this, Navajos need water there are all these issues going on in the country none of these social justice warriors care much about they'd rather be harassing that poor Kristen woman at their restaurant and what about Clooney?! You've got some heat of distraction called Clooney Yeah really Yeah, where is Clooney? What's going on in South Sudan that Clooney should be fixing. You know once he got married it was all over with him It was just done well how about this one drunk or not drunk

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South Sudan Civil War and Jean-Claude Juncker

The civil war in South Sudan has created Africa's worst refugee crisis, leading to a rare meeting between the president and opposition leaders in Ethiopia. In Europe, European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker was seen wobbling during a speech, which he attributed to "sciatica" while jokingly stating he would "prefer to be drunk." The segment notes the contrast between serious global conflicts and the behavior of EU leadership.

south sudan· ethiopia· jean-claude juncker· sciatica· european union

2:35:19 Let's play the South Sudan clip first. Oh, you have a South Sudan clip? I'm sorry didn't realize you had it The civil war in South Sudan has created Africa's worst refugee crisis in a quarter century Today the president and leader of opposition met for the first time in nearly two years The talks took place in nearby Ethiopia amid international efforts to negotiate an end to the five-year conflict Oh please unless there are children in cages who cares I just found that to be distressing. Not even to mention the Yemen stuff. Ah, yeah well see I had something here's my European clip for today Juncker, Jean-Claude Junker, Junker the drunkard was... This is a drunk or not drunk? Yeah and i'm not gonna do the jingle because he's drunk but he goes to Irish parliament in government

2:36:17 He's in the I guess it's Parliament, and he has some speech. I'm sure it's some Euro Raha BS And he's drunk but he plays it off as if he's not drunk best ever Mr.. Mr.. Speaker You see he kind of wobbled onto the stage you know and he had to get up on the podium and So he was like a kind of wobbling a little bit because he's drunk oh Mr. Speaker, Chief of Government Members I have some difficulties to walk. I'm not drunk. I have a sciatica. I would prefer to be drunk. So he says, I have sciatica and I am not drunk. I would prefer to be drunk! Perfect

2:37:07 He would he was he was like to be drunk. It's just the way is yeah, it's okay as long as you don't try to Drunker just don't try to run anything but okay? He's doing that And the National Academies are all on board with you, John? National Academies. What are the national academies? They're a big deal aren't they? Are they government... The national academies? Yes Yeah! They're a big deal. They're the national academies Well what are they? Who runs them? What is the national academy? Uh..They run by boards of directors Okay. Is it a government thing? I don't know, now you're gonna make me look it up. No, i'm sorry! Well that's okay and I need to-I should know this you're right and she's like you're making me look like a moron and no I'm not trying... I'm NOT making you look like a moron You're flute playing that's what makes you look like a moron. No the line is you missed the line. I screwed it up. I'm not making you look like you're doing a fine job on your own Ah yes if I've messed it up I'm sorry

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National Academies Report on Sexual Harassment

The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine released a report calling for systemic changes to combat sexual harassment in academic institutions. The report, led by President Marsha McNutt, suggests integrating values into hiring and promotion and diffusing the power dynamics of the advisor-trainee relationship. The initiative is described as a "war on men" within the scientific and medical fields.

national academy of sciences· sexual harassment· academia· stem· marsha mcnutt

2:38:06 While you're looking that up, this is a report. It's their own video from the National Academies Hashtag science2 As a country, we have woken up to the ways women's lives are impacted by sexual harassment. The time has come to focus on academic institutions especially in male-dominated fields like science engineering and medicine Together, we can do better by creating a climate that discourages all forms of sexual harassment including sexual coercion unwanted sexual attention and gender harassment

2:38:44 Research shows that we must do more than attend occasional training sessions and review vague policies and procedures. Here is what we need to do. One, integrate values into the system Policies and procedures must embody the institutional values of diversity, inclusion and respect. Especially for hiring promotion in 10 year decision-making to change the power dynamics with funding research focus and professional reputation wrapped up in a single advisor trainee relationship. The potential for abuse is too high

2:39:19 Institutions need to diffuse these dependencies by encouraging advisor networks and provide independent funding so students and trainees have options. Three, support targets of sexual harassment. Many women don't report sexual harassment because they fear it will hurt them and their careers. And it does! Institutions must do more to support targets by providing alternative ways to access support services, record information about an incident, and report an incident without fear of retaliation Four, improve transparency and accountability. While still respecting people's privacy institutions need to make their communities aware of the consequences sexual harassers will face and demonstrate that the institution investigates incidents and holds people accountable Now is the time for institutions to take action We can prevent sexual harassment

2:40:16 There you go. National Academies and the National Academy of Science in particular was the first one, was established in 1863 by an act of Congress signed by President Lincoln as a private non-governmental institution to advise the nation on issues related to science and technology. Members are elected by their peers for outstanding contributions to research. Marsha McNutt who I believe is a Democrat, is the president. And then they had the National Academy of Engineering and the National Academy of Medicine all together. They formed the national academies. Oh, okay. Which we'll be dealing with here. Well, they have- This NGO, this government approved NGOI looks like a propaganda operation to me. Well this is going after science and academics. Women are going after them? Well, going after the men!

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Norway's Electric Transport and Climate Goals

Norway is leading a push for electric transport, aiming for all short-haul flights to be battery-powered by 2040 and banning the sale of conventional cars by 2025. The country is also deploying electric ferries to reduce noise and exhaust. Critics point out that these initiatives are heavily subsidized by the government and funded by Norway's significant oil and gas wealth.

norway· electric planes· electric ferries· climate change· subsidies

2:44:42 Yeah, Germany of course. Of course! We know how that... well their Mannschaft are not to be or forced to be reckoned with but still That would be beautiful I would if if I was programming this thing and someone is I Would go with that route Okay Well I got one more clip that I can play okay? I got a couple clips But I did it can be moved but I do want to play this one Oh, I guess you have two. Let's play the two clips. I got one which is the electrification of Norway is very interesting clip as like it's like they're really thinking that we can have passenger flights passenger planes battery operated Fantastic a new battery-powered plane has taken to the skies over Norway Oh did they do they report in this one? The battery power plane that just crashed and killed its two occupants No

2:45:35 No. Oh gee, of course not. As part of the nation's bid to tackle climate change and air pollution our environment analyst Roger Harraben has been to Norway to find out more Flying... The worst thing you're likely to do for the climate all those CO2 emissions Is this an answer in Norway? The pollution-free plane powered by batteries Getting into this thing is a feat of human You origami! She's tiny, but bigger electric planes are coming as technology improves. They're quiet with no exhaust Norway aims to have all its short-haul flights battery powered by 2040

2:46:24 Norway's boats are going electric too as part of the battle against climate change. This battery-powered boat is faster than a normal ferry, with two big advantages... No exhaust no noise The batteries are hidden below decks In future all Norway's ferries will look like this Norway is also subsidizing electric cars. It's cheaper to buy, to run and maintain and it's good for the environment! No conventional cars will be sold in the country after 2025 – that's way sooner than the 2040 date proposed by countries like France and UK.

2:47:12 So are Norwegians environmental saints? No, they're not. In winter they fly long-haul for the sun and they're rich from oil and gas But the lead Norway's setting on electric transport is creating a real buzz. Roger Harriman, BBC News, Oslo. I don't know if it was really that interesting and there are... Well, like couple of things probably better to watch it. Couple of things this woman she just bought the electric coaches they're cheaper to buy to run into maintain but just the sentence couple sentences before that said that they were subsidized by the government. Yeah, they're cheaper to buy for getting them for free

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Alcohol and Cancer Study and Sheep Recognition

A new study suggests that light drinkers (one to five drinks per week) have a lower risk of cancer than those who never drink. In a separate scientific study from the University of Cambridge, "highly trained" sheep were successfully taught to recognize the face of Barack Obama in exchange for food rewards. The hosts find the concept of "sheep ninjas" and their affinity for Obama to be poetically significant.

alcohol· cancer· barack obama· sheep· facial recognition

2:47:54 The whole thing is a scam. Yeah, okay well this will be... This is interesting. This is the drinking and cancer clip and then I'm done News tonight about alcohol and cancer A new study shows that the risk of cancer Is actually lowest in light drinkers People who consume between one and five drinks per week Risk is actually lower than those who rarely or never drink at all Oh man Now what? My ears are shot my eyes are shot gonna get cancer You drink? Ah, barely. Barely. You don't have a collection of stuff to drink that's why... No I don't have- no it's true whenever I collect stuff and uh..I drink it all Alright you can choose. I have kind of funny Obama clip or Tucker Carlson being a douchebag while someone is saying interesting clip Uh huh Let's go with the Obama Okay This is from Discovery

2:48:54 It's a podcast, which is always our favorite. And who owns Discovery? I remember that while back they were buying up a lot of stuff. They bought... It was private company. It was traded stock. So it's public company. Yeah, I think so unless somebody else owned them. Could be. Oh wait a minute! Yes, I remember now Yeah, Discovery. They have a big... they do a lot of reports and stuff for the government I've... it's not pertinent to this clip but they have a podcast I think they bought a podcast company didn't they buy what's-his-face' s podcast company? I have no idea. It was Discovery or someone bought it This is the podcast Discover Science and there was an interesting experiment that was done And for this to be Discovery was what made it that much funnier to me

2:49:42 with sheep and President Obama. Just a couple of months ago, results were announced from a facial recognition study involving Barack Obama... Good evening everybody! ...and some sheep. And by the way I didn't edit that They, that's the way their podcast is put together which I think... Yeah. I'm assuming you didn't just sweeten it. Oh yeah it's snappy though I like it Just a couple of months ago results were announced from a facial recognition study involving Barack Obama Good evening everybody And some sheep And this is the lead researcher, neuroscientist Francisca Noll from the University of Cambridge. One of our sheep would be called in and it would then enter a corridor that leads to two screens and on those two screens two pictures would be coming up so for example Barack Obama... You all look great! ...versus a completely unfamiliar and unrepeated face

2:50:36 and the sheep would have to make a decision whether to go to the left screen or right screen. The sheep made their choice by touching the screen with their nose, and if they chose a celebrity face such as Barack Obama, the clever sheep would be rewarded with a tasty treat! Yes, we can. At the time where we were designing this study Obama was always in the news and we really liked him and we really hoped that our sheep would be clever enough to pick him And they were! Yeah they were so we were very pleased with them How quick were the sheep to recognise Barack Obama against someone else? They were really quick actually. So they learned it within four days of training Did this come as a bit of surprise, did you expect sheep to be this good at it Yes we were definitely surprised that there would

2:51:28 pick it up that quickly. Although this group of sheep that we used is a highly trained group of sheep and they've done quite a lot of cognitive tests with them already so we actually knew that they are really smart and they're really keen to learn new things, and honestly speaking they're really greedy and they just want to get the food." And that's why I think they're responding in such large numbers. Hold on a minute, a highly trained group of sheep? What sort of like sheep ninjas. Yes like sheep ninjas No not like that's annoying me now I just thought it was interesting that the sheep would go to Obama It just there was something poetic about it Well she can do facial recognition like most animals Of course they can And the ones that are really annoying are the crows

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Show Sign-Off and Mac and Cheese Mix

The show concludes with a final sign-off from Austin and Silicon Valley. A special musical mix by the Gregory Brothers featuring an Ayn Rand-themed song about "Mac and Cheese" is played. The hosts remind listeners of the upcoming Sunday show and the various ways to stay connected with the *No Agenda* community.

sign-off· gregory brothers· ayn rand· mac and cheese· podcast mix

2:52:18 You turn, you get a bad side of... Crows are smart animals. They're very smart. If you get on the bad side of a crow, A crow, like say a crow that's in the backyard or some crow thats hanging around and they tell all their buddies and then next thing you know all the crows hate you! For a Sunday show I'm gonna move it once again. We do have the edutainment feedback more of the Google taking over schools and There's a lot of stuff left over from today, and who knows what will happen? It's it's a crazy time Yeah Just make sure that if you're in alpha state try to try to be aware of what you're doing is very Play the jingle exception don't hold on a second right what excuse me Adam

2:53:08 You know that douchebag with the spoodle? Well, his Tesla's just caught fire at a charging station and then they want us to evacuate the building. I gotta go! Gotta catch a plane! Gotta go! Gotta go, gotta go! Umm... An exception today-I'm playing one mix that is not from one of our own producers it's from The Gregory Brothers. I put their uh.. Their mix in these show notes It's that good, but it could have easily been a no agenda producer who did it. So thank you for that and Abel Kirby as well And sir Chris Wilson we return on Sunday with another edition another episode of the best podcast in universe Just build the pictures in between each show you'll be fine here to give you helpful tips life-saving tips for your sanity

2:53:57 And I'm coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas. Capital of the drone star state in the 5x9 Cluedio and the Common Law condo In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I found my Thorin's turntable... I'm John C. Dvorak Until Sunday remember us at dvorak dot org slash NA until then adios mofos! Uhh..I need a cab! The scourge of these bikes and scooters, particularly in Austin. Bicycle! Bicycle! Bicycle! They just dump it into a city... Just dump it!

2:54:57 I want to dump my bicycle, I want to dump my bike. I want to dump my bicycle, I want to dump it with a line! Then we're getting hit on the road which is what really needs to happen when you see people dying before we can get rid of this plague that's just as a plague Space Force! Space Force! Space Force!

2:55:36 Space Force, space, space is a war fighting domain just like the land air and sea. We have the army, the navy, the Air force, the space force, ah my new national strategy could be... Space Force! Space, space, space Space Force! We're doing a tremendous amount of work in space. I said, maybe we need a new force? We'll call it the Space Force And i was not really serious and then I said what a great idea Tremendous

2:56:30 Space Force, space, space, space, force. We say that you can use hairspray because hairspray is going to affect the other I say no way Space Force, space, space, space force.

2:57:27 Shells in white cheddar, spirals in cream. You taste like a dream! He who's not sober will add cheese to sauce. Stir macaroni whatever the cost I love you Oh I love you baby

2:58:29 Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand. The best podcast in the universe!