1:31:34 Yes, that brings us to OTG off the grid now make no mistake this is not going to thwart The government from spying on you and hacks etc. You need to go to a different show for good information on that But to be able to live in the digital world, to have true digital well-being and not be spied on continuously right down to what you... They have this whole thing in the wind down sequence. I didn't clip any of that. You just tell your phone, I'm going to wind down now. And then it... Oh yeah. And it turns the screen black and white. So you have less stimuli as you're getting ready to lay down and go to sleep. And then it slowly will just...
1:32:18 Yeah, they can send people to your house. Maybe. Oh, by the way, at the Google I.O., when you went in for registration, they had pronoun stickers to put on your badge. Here, I have a little picture of it. We care about your pronouns. Add a sticker to your badge to share with others. Which I would buy I'd have each one of the stickers I'd use them all chose is a circle around the bed And the one in the picture is a Z sir Fantastic You should you should have gone if only for the it won't give me a pass anymore. They can meet the comedic value alone I've update on the on my OTG and
1:33:03 Actually, I'll read a note first, a short one from Samuel and his wife. Adam, in the morning my spouse and I, we're old millennials, are going OTG, digital detox, and are wanting to know which of the phones you've been testing is your favorite. Carolyn my wife deleted Facebook from her iPhone and reports a marked decrease in her anxiety and less depression All I have is an iPod and a crappy flip phone But I'd like to receive SMS and have a basic browser as soon as we settle on the phones We plan to sell her iPhone to pay for them. This is such a great idea any advice would be welcome yes So I'm going to give you a little update I received the the
1:33:39 The final two phones I was going to test, the Nokia C3 and the Nokia Sash 210. I'm pretty sure I can safely say, don't order any old Nokia phones except for the one I'm gonna tell you about. from eBay because this is how they arrive. The phone, so the C3, which is a nice, it's actually a nice little device, nice phone, very light, same kind of dimensions as the E71, a little plasticky, but seemed very fast. The operating system seemed to really go much faster than the E71, so I was very hopeful.
1:34:20 And, lo and behold, I got it to work on the Wi-Fi. It worked on, I think, 2G is what I tested it on, until I started to notice that the keyboard mapping was off. Because what these Chiners do is they send you the phone, and I guess they have some old plastic phone cases around. They jam the guts in there. They load a ROM. It's a Spanish keyboard, and they put it on the English language. So if you want the at sign you have to hit shift 3 Which is which is the prince? I mean the whole thing is messed up all the mapping is messed up you couldn't even remember Which keys to use? and the same More or less the same happened with the Nokia 210 which again I thought this would be the winners a very pretty device it could even you could even say it was you know the styling was 2018 and
1:35:19 And it had some key mapping issues, much less than the other one, strangely enough. But it had the Opera Mini browser in there, which was hard-linked. to whatever phone service it was originally sold with or that the image of the operating system. So it starts up and it wants to connect to a proxy server which it can't get to. So forget about it. The only phone that I've consistently found is the one to have is the Nokia E71. And then it has a couple additional, I think this is the best feature phone ever made.
1:36:02 The browser is great, the messaging works well. It has a little, kind of like an office suite of some kind of, you can't update any of this, you get it and that's what it is. You can't do anything else than what you receive. You get what you get. You get what you get. But you can open up Word documents and do some small editing if you had to and it runs on 3G, so it's a real winner. Now, as an addition to that, I wanted to get the pager out of my life And as you recall I had what's the model number of the Nokia you'd like? The E71. Okay. You can get them for about if you get it you can get probably a new one on Amazon for about 150 bucks or you can get refurbished from about 30 to 40 on the eBays and for whatever reason these things do seem to come with the appropriate you know software installed for whatever it is.
1:37:02 Whatever country or it was sold for? That's good, and you can still load the the opera browser on it if you can just get to the net now So the pager I really don't need because I can send email from this phone if I have to and then I remembered that most mobile phone operators have an SMS gateway and T-Mobile, I'm on T-Mobile, has it. So you, to send an email as text message or even better yet as a MMS, remember those? The multimedia? Multimedia sending thingy. Multimedia sending thingy. So if you were to send me an email to adamatcurry.com, I have it set up, because you don't email me that frequently. If you do email me, I want to know.
1:37:47 Same with Tina, same with Christina, and then I have one or two keywords that I'm looking for. And those go to my mailbox, but they also forward a copy to the SMS gateway, which is my phone number at tmomail.net. And if you send anything over, I think 140 characters, it turns it into an MMS. When you open that on the Nokia E71, it opens as an email. So you could actually reply right from there if you wanted to. And so now I don't need the pager because if someone needs me, they can text message me. If there's something important I don't, and this, and you know, dudes named Ben have probably used this for decades. They know all about this. If there's some particular message I want, which I can change pretty quickly in my email rule settings, then I'll get a notification. I can get the email from there. Or if I feel I can go and open up email and synchronize it, which just takes a long time.
1:38:44 But really, there's not a lot of spying stuff being sent back. It's not convenient, which makes me not want to use it. But yet, when the kid's throwing up at school or the dog sitter has an issue, they can still get through to me. Don't need no Android P. Well, okay. And I think that's pretty much the last review I'll have to do. I mean, this is the one. I don't know of any other phones that even come close to doing what the Nokia E71 can do from this perspective. Some people who've gotten it have also gotten the podcast client to work and some other things, but all of it without... Wow. Yeah, wow is right. All of it without any real spyware. Now, what I've noticed, and this was a little hard for me, but not horrible, is WhatsApp no longer runs. As of November 2017, WhatsApp no longer runs on Symbian.
1:39:42 You know, so you can't run that chat client, but you know, fuck them. I told my daughter, I said, I'm back, just talk to me on SMS. Fine, she says, no problem. So, and you know, Tina and I only talk on SMS. Pretty much everybody, I'm not just so commune, just stop. It's very simple. Just so you know, I'm just not gonna get there. Huh, guess what? What? I don't use WhatsApp ever. Never have used it. I know. Never loaded it. I know, you're smart. You're smart. And you don't really want WhatsApp because you know it's owned by Facebag and you know it's only a matter of time. You have to have an account. Well it used to be great. It was 99 cents per year and you know there was no spying. And then they sold the Facebag and now spying has started. Yeah that's the problem with all these guys with their promises. Yeah. And you too will have time to walk around the neighborhood. This whole net has been promises. Sorry I stopped the rant.
1:40:44 Your rant didn't come through because Skype has been not letting you rant. Oh, that's interesting. Because they know they're next. Yeah, so I don't think I'll have any more phone updates unless someone has an idea and if I add any more to my toolbox. Oh, and by the way, I charge this thing once a week. That is the most beautiful piece of all. Yes, I remember we used it. Was it the E71 or the E74? Yeah, E71. Okay, so it's the one with the chrome bottom? Well, I got an all black one, but it's metal. Yeah, it's a metal bottom. The thing I remember about those phones is you charge them once a week.
1:41:29 And they'd stay charged because there wasn't a big overhead just hanging off the thing so they're constantly soaking up juice like a regular phone. You can't run a, you can't keep a phone on for more than eight hours or 12 hours. Oh, it's toast. No, it's toast. And because they were still using standards, regular open standards back then, there's some really interesting things. So there's a little note-taking application. Which is handy, you know, if I just want to write a few things down from going to the store and whatever I need. So now I have a... I was doing recipes and the title would be whatever the recipe was and then the ingredients I'm gonna go get.
1:42:08 When you open up those recipes, and I would even take a little picture. You know it's a note-taking app, you can take a little picture on of the page or whatever if there's something I need to have there. When you open it up from the file folder, oh gee you can actually look in your file folder on this phone, they're HTML pages. And they embed the image, you could export them as ready-to-go HTML pages. And it's not exciting for most people, but I thought it was really fun to see back when standards were still standards. Then you could do other things with the data except being sucked into the hole I know you're not excited by it, but I thought it was well I have my own way of doing things I still have issues when I try to I mean one of the things I like to use if you're gonna do off-the-grid reviewing is using VPNs to do your business So you actually protect you from certain kinds of worms internet where they used to have VPNs for this thing I don't know
1:43:08 I don't know if you can still load the software, if you can find it. I actually tried to boot up the Windows software to... to load a newer version or a different, forget about it. None of this stuff works. It's never gonna come back. It's dead. No, it's never gonna come back. But anyway, back to the VPN, when you use one on your computer, the pretense of all these companies, Amazon included, is oh, you're in England. Oh, you're in Canada. Oh, you're in Mexico, or wherever you are pointing the VPN. Right.
1:43:43 And so, but no, I mean Amazon should know, because it has a bunch of Amazon cookies. It should know where I'm supposed to be. And even if I was in England, let's say I'm in London. You may not want google.nl. I don't want Google.NL if I'm there. I don't want Google.NL if I'm using a Netherlands VPN. I don't want them to start making assumptions about where I am when they have cookies they put there to tell them where I am usually. And generally speaking, I want to use Google USA if I'm going to do a search, although I use Bing, which has the same problem. And even if I'm buying something on Amazon, if I'm in England, I'm not buying it to ship it to Sheffield. I'm there to ship it back to where I live. So I want the American Amazon. So the pretense of this is extremely annoying. Yes.