Episode 1025 · Sunday, 15 April 2018

Blotto in Biloxi

Military escalation in Syria meets pipeline geopolitics as the FBI raid on Michael Cohen sparks a constitutional debate over attorney-client privilege and executive overreach.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1025

About this episode

The United States military launched Tomahawk missile strikes against Syrian targets following allegations of chemical weapon use by the Assad regime. UN Ambassador Nikki Haley and State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert claim sensitive evidence proves the regime's responsibility, yet Russian intelligence officials previously warned of a staged provocation involving 20 tons of chlorine at the Al-Tanf base. This escalation occurs as Professor Jeffrey Sachs highlights the legacy of Operation Timber Sycamore, the covert CIA program that destabilized the region years prior.

Geopolitical tensions rise as Germany remains silent on the strikes to protect the Nord Stream 2 pipeline project with Russia. In Washington, National Security Advisor John Bolton reportedly pushes for further intervention while legal analyst Alan Dershowitz condemns the FBI raid on Michael Cohen as a violation of the Fourth Amendment. Meanwhile, Elon Musk admits to production failures at the Tesla factory caused by an over-reliance on robots, and WPP chief Martin Sorrell resigns amid an internal investigation into personal conduct. In South Africa, former President Jacob Zuma faces racketeering charges, and the City of Austin launches a blockchain pilot to track the identities of homeless residents.

Adam Curry attempts to revive the 1930s slang term blotto among Dutch millennials while broadcasting from the Netherlands. John C. Dvorak reports from a technology expo in Biloxi, Mississippi, where he critiques the deceptive nature of penny slot machines. The duo also examines the bizarre trend of televised celebrity therapy and the rise of emotional support peacocks on commercial flights.


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CHAPTER 01 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 1025 Remote Broadcast Introduction

Adam Curry broadcasts from the Whorehouse Studios in the Netherlands while John C. Dvorak joins from the Technology Expo at the Beau Rivage in Biloxi, Mississippi. Dvorak describes his travel schedule and the gigabit line provided for the show. They discuss the technical setup, including Dvorak's use of an Audio-Technica 2020 microphone.

biloxi· mississippi· beau rivage· technology expo· gigabit· audio technica 2020

00:00 Grep Democrat. Pipe, Grep Cat. Polt met Gag, Bolle, Graaijers Vlees en Heemavoors! And broadcasting live from the Whorehouse Studios in the Garden of Amsterdam. Laar en ingibonation lowlands in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from actually... The Gulf Coast Mississippi I'm John C. DeBorac It's Crackpot & Buzzkill In the morning Are you sure? You're there? I think I am from there but listen to this What? Oh, you got a bell

00:43 Yeah, they had a bell at the front desk. No. All right what's your what you sit baby? Where are you hanging? It's actually real. That's a real service. I got like a ding-a-ring compared to that thing big sign yeah i'm down here the gulf coast has got some tech conference what's the name of the tech conference Technology Expo creatively enough at the Beau Revage in Biloxi, Mississippi. And I'm giving a little talk tomorrow and couldn't get there without having to go on Saturday so I could get there here on Sunday doing this show on a gigabit line provided kindly by the group. Nice! And who is the mystery voice in the background?

01:31 That's Tom the dude named Tom. Okay, hello dude name time good. He's a he's Derek will never do name Ben it doesn't happen often but from time to time we are both in Non-fixed studio locations this is one of those times I hope you appreciate the effort that goes into this yes neither one of us are anywhere near and normalcy Normal CNN yeah, I'm running this off of Adele XPS gigabit going in. What, you have a gigabit Ethernet card? Yeah sure! Oh nice! No. I'm like okay that's cool no it would be cool but no it's good synchronous up and down so its... Well you sound fantastic actually I have to say because the audio technica 2020 That's not your typical mic is it

02:27 We've used this mic before. That's the one that fell over and you thought I was dead? Yeah, yes infamous yes And it and then they'd snapped a little connector off the bottom and I had to get in touch with Audio-Technica They haven't give me another mic Oh well You should try this one when you're back home. I like it yeah won't sound as good no okay Well, here in the Gitmo Nation lowlands in the EU no one is really talking about Syria anymore. That was very weird the way that went down here because it happened... Oh yeah what were they thinking in the EU when this stupid thing happened? Well you see it happened overnight so people woke up

CHAPTER 02 / 44 Discussion

Syria Airstrikes and OPCW Chemical Weapon Analysis Discrepancies

The discussion shifts to the recent airstrikes in Syria and the lack of sustained "World War III" concern in European media compared to Stormy Daniels coverage in the US. Reports emerge regarding the OPCW analysis of the nerve agent used in England, suggesting it was a World War I-era substance called BZ rather than a Russian-specific agent. Claims are made that certain details were omitted from official reports.

syria· opcw· bz agent· chemical weapons· world war iii· stormy daniels

03:04 to almost pretty much, you know we're talking six seven hours later. World War III! No exactly the opposite like oh this is going on but you know it seems like stuff is kind of calming down Trump may be pulling back and what was almost immediately there was no... To me what I saw was really not a lot of World War 3 talk and then let's say maybe couple hours later I was bored of looking at whatever I could find here I brought my uh..I got the Sirius XM on my phone Which I of course have to bring here since my pager doesn't work. And all I heard was Stormy Daniels stuff! Your pager doesn't work? No, gee... How could that be?! The pager- it doesn't connect to the pager network in Europe, I'm so surprised. What's it called the sex pager would you? What is the phrase? Oh. The pager? We got some- we used some phrase about the pager has got everybody all a tizzy

03:59 Stormy Dan is yeah. Well, they were preoccupied over there if you remember the way the British government operates That was us I was listening to CNN and all I got was stormy news Oh Well, that's not what we've been getting over here We've been getting too much analysis of The event why it took place everybody's all gung-ho and then some analysis of the poisoning it turns out they You got that data, the nerve agent used in England turns out to be something from World War I? No. Oh! I didn't hear that one yet... no i didn't what about that

04:38 Well, what it turns out the host those guys the guy that we have the guy that works for the chemical weapons operation. OPCW? Oh yes, OPCW. Yeah whatever that is yeah he who told us there's a gag order well apparently they were given every day where they're allowed to do a report on the chemical that was used in England right and they found it to be BZ which is some old thing from 1909 and They could find none of this Russian stuff in it, but when the report came out they'd left all those details out. And then they were grilled about why were those details left out and they said we just gave them the information and somebody else... The lab did a Swiss lab analysis. Oh yes that's it. OPCW whatever they are. Well Heather... They left it out I actually heard Heather talking about this. I got a couple of short clips

CHAPTER 03 / 44 Discussion

State Department Briefing on Syrian Chemical Weapon Responsibility

State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert faces questioning from reporter Matt Lee regarding the certainty of the Syrian regime's responsibility for chemical attacks. The dialogue highlights the US government's push to return to the Geneva Process for a political solution in Syria. Nauert asserts that the US has sensitive proof of the regime's involvement that cannot be shared publicly.

heather nauert· matt lee· state department· geneva process· assad· syria

05:36 And Matt is egging her on again, you know. Although I don't think that's in all of these clips but Matt Lee is definitely needling her a bit. Here's the big about the OPCW that they're not... Of course, I think the inspectors were supposed to have boots on the ground when we started sending missiles And we're just not waiting for the OPCW. We believe we know who is responsible for this, we believe... we know that chemical weapon was used. We will still wait for the OPCW's... Not wait! The OPCW will still formulate its facts and its findings but that still does not determine... The OPCW does still not determine the responsibility they just determined a substance

06:19 Who gives a crap about the OPCW says they're not important apparently They don't matter and where do you get all this information from Heather? How do you know how are you so sure I can tell you that Syria's responsible We are all in agreement. I have also seen... We're all in agreement on this, ladies and gentlemen. Syria's responsible! The Secretary of Defense remarks as well we are assessing various sources different government agencies and departments have different types of sources by which we gather information okay so DOD has certain kinds of sources State Department has different kinds of sources and other agencies and departments have various sources

06:59 We will take a look at all of this information as it comes in and we have to remind you that this is a dynamic situation. It's ongoing, but we'll continue to listen. Yes! That's the CYA part. Remember it's dynamic anything can happen at this moment. It's not static its dynamic. Its like IP addresses But...it's like were in time warp and was about a year ago Were going back to that thing if you recall The Geneva Process? Do you remember this?! No. That's how long ago it was, that was when we were trying to get Assad out and all the Jamoks were there in Geneva basically carving up Syria. Right right right they're all in the big meetings They're back again! I think it is clear that we are obviously engaged in Syria one of the things that important us is try to encourage parties to get back to the Geneva process

07:47 So when we look at pictures, for example of the Turks and the Iranians and others meeting to discuss the future of Syria some of those countries are certainly don't have it. The best interest of Syria at heart in that I'm specifically referring to the Russians and Iranians. What? We would like to get back to the Geneva process so that there could eventually be a... Wait, wait, wait! So us bombing the shit out of them means we have their best interests in heart? Isn't that beautiful?! I love it! The Russians don't have their best interests in mind at all. Matt has a question obviously the best interest of Syria at heart, and that I'm specifically referring to the Russians and the Iranians and others. We would like to see us get back to the Geneva process so that there could eventually be a political solution in Syria. Your position is that the United States has the best interests of Syria at heart but no one else does? Well, I think – I think calling for — Hey! If you die, there's my man. A return to the Geneva process which is something many countries have agreed

08:48 has the interest of the Syrian people at heart, certainly. Uh-huh. But the Russians and the Iranians have been too – I don't think that the Russians and the Iranians have the interest – the best interests of the Syrian people at heart when — But they have called for a return to the Geneva process? Well, they had called for that. But as we've talked about, Matt, I think your first question was about how Russia will try to turn facts on their heads We see that happen all the time. Yeah, we've never done that of course. No. I don't think they have the best interests You don't think they really want to return to the Geneva process? They said they do...we're highly skeptical because we haven't seen them go forward with it. Now as you know on The NO Agenda Show, truth always wants to come out eventually it'll pop out your mouth there's nothing you can do about it It is job for producers at The NO Agenda Show to catch you Heather

09:37 Okay, well would you say today though that the US has proof that this was the Syrian regime? Yes. And we continue to look at the information and gather information and further assess it We don't have the information to be able to provide. We aren't able to provide all of this publicly because its sensitive She said DON'T What were you gonna say, Heather? Oh I'm so sorry you messed it up. Would you say today though that the US has proof that this was the Syrian regime? Yes and we continue to look at the information We continue to gather information and further assess it. We don't have the information to be able to provide

CHAPTER 04 / 44 Discussion

Russian Intelligence Warnings of Staged Chemical Attacks

A report from RT dated March 17th is reviewed, in which Russian officials claimed the United States was preparing rebel squads at the Al-Tanf base to stage a chemical provocation. The Russian narrative suggested that 20 tons of chlorine were provided to rebels to create a pretext for US airstrikes. Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov describes the conflict as moving toward a direct confrontation rather than a proxy war.

rt· sergei lavrov· al-tanf· chlorine· false flag· russian armed forces

10:20 They got nothing what's crazy about this and you might have received this as well a couple of people sent this to me This is RT from March 17th their live broadcast pretty much coming from the future. Representatives of the Russian Armed Forces have said they have information, reason to believe that the United States at its Al-Tanf base in Syria has been preparing squads of rebels fighters to stage a chemical provocation weapons attack in the south of Syria, in Daraa which borders Jordan and Israel. They've been provided allegedly as many as 20 tons of chlorine as well as detonators disguised as cigarette packs and this attack is

11:14 Imminent. Defense officials have said that this attack will be blamed on the Syrian government and will be used as an excuse by the United States and its allies to strike at Bashar al-Assad, his government and his military directly. The provocations mentioned will be used as a pretext for the United States and its allies to conduct air strikes against military and state infrastructure in Syria we're seeing that such strikes are being prepared by warships in the Mediterranean, the Red Sea and in the Persian Gulf at the same time speaking in Astana Sergei Lavrov of the Russian Foreign Minister said that the Syrian conflict is beginning to look less like a proxy war than a direct confrontation. There are US special forces on the ground, they are no longer denying this. They are accompanied by British, French and Special Forces from other countries

12:07 It's not a proxy war anymore, but rather a direct involvement in the war. We condemn their illegal presence on Syria's territory. The US-led coalition is not legitimate from the UN point of view either. We are pragmatic people and we understand that we should not engage in armed conflict with them." So there's Russia today coming to you from the future... Not a hard one to predict probably… That was a month ago but they kind of yeah I said they do have the tonnage wrong it seems Well, you know what we're learning more and more about is... Before you go on I want to mention that we have two conflicting trend lines here. One is that they did something and the other line is they did nothing in the whole thing was staged

CHAPTER 05 / 44 Discussion

Operation Timber Sycamore and CIA Involvement in Syria

Professor Jeffrey D. Sachs discusses the history of US involvement in Syria, specifically citing Operation Timber Sycamore. This covert CIA and Saudi Arabian operation aimed to overthrow the Assad regime starting in 2012. The discussion posits that the current chaos and the rise of ISIS were unintended consequences of these secret policies signed by President Obama.

jeffrey sachs· timber sycamore· cia· saudi arabia· barack obama· hillary clinton

12:53 Right. Well, I'm pretty convinced this was a stage it was false flag, I guess we'd call that what we know is that the Obama administration Hillary Clinton specifically approved a secret program to smuggle chlorine from Libya to Syria to the rebels in Syria and of course We know that although Isis may be defied it defeated whoever they were There's still rebels hanging around and you really don't hear about this topic of chlorine being smuggled or transported from Libya to Syria. You don't hear about it much on the M5M except

13:31 If you have 10,000 producers who catch stuff from time to time. This is Professor Jeffrey D Sachs from Columbia University He will explain exactly when and how this happened and will even give us the name of the secret operation that it was conducted under I think this was on MSNBC. This is a US mistake Yeah, actually it was on Good Morning Joe show. Joe wasn't there but Mika was and she's very upset with this story. It started seven years ago and I remember the day on your show when President Obama said Assad must go and I looked at you and Joe and I said huh how is he gonna do that?

14:18 Where's the policy for that right and we know they sent in the CIA to overthrow Assad The CIA and Saudi Arabia together In covert operations tried to overthrow Assad. It was a disaster Eventually it brought in both Isis as a splinter group to the jihadist that went in it also brought in Russia so we have been digging deeper and deeper and deeper into What we should do now is get out. I don't think it's attractive, but i think we have to understand how this happened This happened because of us We started a war to overthrow our regime It was covert. It was Timber Sycamore People can look it up The CIA operation Together with Saudi Arabia

15:07 You might want to look that up on the wiki page Timber Sycamore and there's Saudi Arabia which we predicted. shrouded in secrecy, never debated by Congress, never explained to the American people signed by President Obama. Never explained and this created chaos and so just throwing more missiles in right now is not a response. My only concern... We need to go it's by the way not to walk away to go to the UN Security Council as the Admiral says to agree with Russia on a strategy for ending

15:47 the fight, but ending the fight means that we stop trying to overthrow a government. That we stop trying To support rebels who are committed to overthrowing the government That is where this war continues because we can this day back rebels that are trying to overthrow a government contrary to international law contrary to the UN Charter Contrary to common sense contrary to practical path We can't do it And it's just creating ongoing crisis to the extent of facing an imminent confrontation with Russia. So I think this is a important conversation to have Yeah, we can have that conversation some other time you tinfoil hat crazy what are you talking about? It's Obama There it is Operation Timber Sycamore

16:38 Yeah, run by the United States CIA and supplanted by various Arab intelligence agencies most notably that of Saudi Arabia launched in 2012 or 2013 which matches a timeline. It supplied money weaponry and training yeah this is the stuff that would they kept we kept sending much stuff over there and it ended up always ended up with the bad guys. Yeah yeah of course But it also makes me now think that the false flag was still spurred on by elements within the CIA who were on the ground. Could be I mean, it's their operation...I don't think it was ever...does this say that it was closed? Yeah they're always trying to make up for their mistakes when they screw something up And you know now that Pompeo is

17:22 Well, you know they haven't... I guess they're kind of in an interim situation. They don't really have a boss right? It's CIA right now. Right! Yeah they don't have a boss so that could be it but it's... You know the woman that is supposed to be the boss she's already a boss so she got the lower job because she just has to get approved and take over the place And I don't, we know nothing about her. We get misinformation that she's a bad person and then we get information that she's a good guy and it's just like we don't have a clue what she's like. Are you assuming her gender again? When did I say what? Good guy? That she is a good guy Yeah, assuming your gender

CHAPTER 06 / 44 Discussion

Tomahawk Missiles in the Dead of Night Song

A parody song performed by "Ned, Knight of the Convict Broadcasts" is played, satirizing the use of Tomahawk missiles in Syria and questioning the underlying reasons for the military action.

tomahawk missiles· ned knight· parody song· syria strikes

18:11 What we always like to do in the NOA Agenda Show whenever we have a big event like this is, We'd like to produce some music and today is no exception. Tomahawk missiles in the dead of night Take out all the Russians that you find On your line You've been waiting for this chance To blow it all sky high Tomahawk missiles In the dead of night Even if the reason Is a lie There you go. That is our dude named Ned, Knight of the Convict Broadcasts

CHAPTER 07 / 44 Discussion

Media Analysis of Trump's Syrian Intervention Strategy

Fox News correspondent Ed Henry analyzes President Trump's shift from non-interventionist rhetoric to military action in Syria. Meanwhile, a Sky News segment featuring a former British commander is cut short as he questions the motive for Assad to use chemical weapons while winning the war. The hosts critique the media's framing of the "dozens" of alleged chemical attacks.

ed henry· fox news· sky news· assad· donald trump· chemical weapons

19:03 Let's listen to the Fox analysis so you can get, because you probably haven't heard this over there. So let's go Ed Henry Fox analysis. Our chief national correspondent at Henry is joining us now late with details good evening Ed. Well Shannon great see your right I mean remember this president campaigned as someone who would not be an interventionist if elected, but about a year ago did in fact intervene in Syria before all of this because of another chemical weapons attack. At that time the president saying that the horrific images he had seen on television and elsewhere had led him to believe that the Assad regime needed to get a message tonight they're getting what appears to be a much stronger message In fact as we see Damascus getting smacked from the east

19:51 South and West from the US, British and French militaries. This president also talked a lot in the campaign and in the early days of this administration about the fact that he felt President Obama his predecessor had made a big mistake by laying out that red line in Syria back in 2012 saying that if Assad used chemical weapons that would be a red line and that the U.S. would have to respond with action Yeah, a lot of this there's a lot of coincidence going on the Bolton thing is the one that's got me the most kind of irk. Well but from what we know this was pretty much like the strike exactly one year ago wasn't it? It's like okay you know some stuff blew up some stuff I mean where was the big chemical cloud by the way? I know why would you blow up a chemical... Is that floating over Europe at any point should i be worried about you know the big explosion from the chemical stuff they blew up or am I just thinking simplistically

20:52 You're thinking simplistically. They had a, one of the guys that was at research facility one of the main things they blew up and they had one of the top guys there walking through it on one of those shows I don't have a clip and he's just lamenting the fact that you know said two things One is there was no chemical weapons here if there were why would you bomb them? It's all the things you want to do Exactly. Well, that's the logic that nobody is discussing well the people who try to discuss it We already had an example of that of the former UK ambassador on the previous episode There's another example out there a former British commander in Iraq who tried to lay the same story out on Sky News this time instead of BBC what we've heard from either Sergei Lavrov or indeed The Russian ambassador has made it more difficult for the UK to launch

21:46 any kind of attack without putting it to Parliament? I think quite apart from all that, the debate that seems to be missing from this is and this was actually mentioned by the Ambassador was what possible motive might have triggered Syria to launch a chemical attack at this time in this place. You know, the Syrians are winning Don't take my word for it, take the American military's word. General Virgil, the head of CENTCOM said to Congress the other day that Assad has won this war and we need to face that. Then you got last week a statement by Trump or tweet by Trump that America had finished with ISIL and were going to pull out soon very soon

22:31 and then suddenly you go... OK, I'm very sorry. You've been very patient waiting for us but we do need to leave it there. I am very sorry. Thank you very much indeed. More to come on Sky News. Do stay tuned! Very sorry, you've been very patient. Thank you very much we have to leave it there I guess this bullcrap What was the I looked for? I couldn't find your clip from the last show about You were really irked about it too The journalist who said that there had been dozens Dozens oh yes the dozens do you remember what that was titled because it wasn't there was no dozens in the title Do you remember what that line if you have if you can read me the clipless real quick I tell exactly which one is

CHAPTER 08 / 44 Discussion

Nikki Haley and the Escalating Count of Chemical Attacks

UN Ambassador Nikki Haley claims the Syrian regime has used chemical weapons at least 50 times, with some estimates reaching 200. The hosts express skepticism over these numbers, questioning why previous attacks were not reported with the same intensity or met with military force. They suggest the data is being "cherry-picked" to justify current interventions.

nikki haley· united nations· chlorine gas· sarin· white hats· syria

23:10 I could probably re-get a clip list. Hold on, this is beautiful! I can actually do this. Look under JCD clips All right, I have well. I still have the 23 and me redux which you gave me again today CNN rating law EPA chief escalation potential Facebook Harvard insane homeless PBS dead Palestinians sexual harassment See I can't find it John it makes no sense I can't figure out which one of this either but you were irked because the journalist said It's a PB is one of the PBS clips

23:47 So just read me those because it's the guy from PBS who said that. Oh, hold on I think there are only two of them. PBS... Ah! PBS reports dead Palestinians? No flat report No, it's flat reported. We haven't played I don't think But this...it wasn't a son...oh wait here we go Escalation Ah! I found it. I found it. Here we go Curtail this kind of behavior Is your sense that we can stop Assad from using chemical weapons? He has done this dozens of times in Syria Okay, dozens of times which you took quite a bit of offense to Well from a journalistic perspective dozen means at least 24

24:28 Right. Well, what if his reporting was factual based upon his limited knowledge of the facts? Well if they you can what are the dozens of attacks well only heard a two or three I bring you shill extraordinaire Nikki Haley United Nations Nikki Haley is that you don't forget now when I make I hate to do this let's not say Don't forget Let's say remember Remember well now you want to forget oh That you were big fan of hers There's no need to bring that up. I mean, that's what I said. I said I didn't need to bring it up But you did it anyway? I liked her and now a hater okay Here she is in the United Nations speaking about this. I'm very very disturbed Let's be clear Assad's most recent use of poison gas against the people of Douma was not his first second

25:22 Third or even 49th use of chemical weapons the United States has not been reported He did your guy reported dozens of times. Yeah, well that's where he got it from apparently the same some same talking points I never heard this because think that there ought to get this guy they're trying to screw him They're trying to get him out of there They're trying to do anything to ruin his reputation and kill him if they can And if he did something forty nine times you think somebody might want to mention it? It gets better chemical weapons The United States estimates that Assad has used chemical weapons in the Syrian war at least 50 times. Public estimates are as high as 200. 200! Can I hear 225? Do we hear 225, 225, do we hear 250, 250?!

26:11 Yeah, 200 she says. So why didn't we react to... Why was there no video? Why was there nothing from previous from all these 100 and- 200 attacks! Was this any of these before the red line Obama's red line? Well well well She was pressed on this and let's count along Let's see you know what just just to give her the benefit of the doubt When she talks about multiple missiles, we'll even count those and see if we can get to 49 50 or maybe 5 a 200. In the weeks after Assad's sarin gas attack last April that killed nearly 100 people including many children The regime used chlorine gas at least once and possibly as many as three times Okay, three same area three times three last November just is the joint investigative mechanism mandate expired

27:04 The regime attacked its people with sarin again in the Damascus suburbs. Four... In January, Assad used at least four chlorine-filled rockets in Douma. We'll take nine. And then he struck again last weekend. Ten. Thanks to Russia there was no UN body to determine blame There was no body? We never saw any of this! What happened?! Why didn't we know about this!? Why were we firing missiles earlier? Because they're liars. They're real, they're full of crap! They are super duper liars! Oh man... She definitely sounds like a liar with that 200 thing Wow

27:48 And yeah, and come on. So why did they just didn't their what we're doing that would hearst? What she's saying now is that we're cherry-picking because he's just bombing people left and right with poison gas and we pick one out of the blue because it's got the white hats and the youtubers involved Well, it's and we bomb the shit out of them what we should have been bombing the shit out of him all along or not I mean The only other plausible theory this one is ringing the bell. That's odd The only other plausible theory is that maybe we never had the goods on these 299 other times And you don't have the goods on this one Well, we have some goods We got a little bit video and we got we cut the media talking about it Maybe the media just didn't care about reporting about it back then

CHAPTER 09 / 44 Discussion

William Cohen on Presidential Taunting and Military Timing

Former Secretary of Defense William Cohen compares the timing of Trump's strikes to Bill Clinton's 1998 airstrikes during the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Cohen criticizes Trump's use of "taunts" against world leaders, drawing an analogy to the NFL's ban on taunting. The hosts find the comparison between football rules and international diplomacy absurd.

william cohen· bill clinton· monica lewinsky· donald trump· nfl taunting

28:35 I don't know. And then, of course we have Trump's tweet and this has got to be trolling of the highest order to add mission accomplished. Did he? I didn't see that. Oh yeah you said great job everybody perfect execution fabulous woohoo! We're all fantastic and at the end mission accomplished. To give the needle to Bush? I don't know but they brought in my favorite former Secretary of State William Cohen I mean, he's my favorite because he is the guy that admitted to us having a... no Secretary of Defense. State or defense? He is not state. No it was defense

29:15 No, wait. Well now you got me... Okay let's go check it out. I think it was state that William Cohen is the guy who said there are lots of weapons people control the weather they can create earthquakes earthquake machines really yeah your buddy yeah this guy so they bring him in to talk about everything that's going on the coincidental timing of the event and his response to Trumps tweeting Of course, President Trump's strikes on Syria last night come at a time of personal and political crisis. A special counsel investigation and a criminal investigation into the president's personal lawyer—these twin challenges have drawn comparisons to 1998

29:58 President Bill Clinton responded to Al Qaeda attacks with an airstrike on Sudan, and the same day Monica Lewinsky was to appear before a grand jury to give testimony about her affair with President Clinton. The U.S. Secretary of Defense at that time was William Cohen who joins us. Mr. Secretary, I want to know as someone who's a reporter then that there was a lot of skepticism about the timing of those attacks they turned out to be justified how do you feel about President Trump's decision last night? Well, I think it was justified. I did question both the means in which he communicated his intent and the message that went out to the Russians and the Syrians and the Iranians. Namely it went out as a taunt. And I've tried to indicate in some of my past appearances that you know, the NFL bans taunting for good reasons

30:54 And I think at the presidential level taunts are unwarranted because they can produce a backlash or reaction. I'm not sure how he does that or why to make a comparison with NFL taunting and then taunting world leaders? I don't know, it's just off the wall Well, you want to hear off the wall. I mean let's get an idea of Dimench B., well first of all Katie Turd but she is on MSNBC today and who the hell did she have call in? She kind of has her own show there. Ah well here is one of our fabulous guests who of course is all-in on I hate Trump. It was a terrible idea we should have never gotten into it

CHAPTER 10 / 44 Discussion

Ambassador Joe Wilson's Profane Critique of Donald Trump

Ambassador Joe Wilson uses profanity during a live MSNBC interview with Katie Tur to describe President Trump as "venal" and motivated by money. Tur later apologizes for the vulgarity. The hosts look up the definition of "venal," noting its association with bribery and corruption.

joe wilson· katie tur· msnbc· vulgarity· venal· bribery

31:37 Do you think that the advisors he has in place right now are going to change his mind on that sort of thing or he's gonna change their mind on that sort of thing? I don't think he actually has it in mind. Um, i think he basically is very venal He's looking to get himself through the next day and get put as many fucking dollars into his bank account As much as possible. I think this man is a danger Got a fuck on the air. Yep, Ambassador Joe Wilson thank you very much we appreciate your time and I'm sorry for- And that's ambassador Wilson he just has to cuss Yeah listen People get invited back You can't go on those shows and just drop a fuck you bomb Listen to her but also it was like the president has no mind Ya know? Yeah Venal What does venal mean actually? It means you're just out for yourself at kind of base level like your

32:34 It's a good word to throw in from time to time. Well, here's Katie's apology for what just happened. Ambassador Joe Wilson thank you very much we appreciate your time I'm sorry for the vulgarity right there. I apologize for the profanity but these are serious times. Yeah ambassador thank you so much for calling in. NBC's Kelly O'Donnell is at the White House. Okay here's Venal Showing or motivated susceptibility to bribery. Well, that's interesting. A corruptible? Bribeable? Open to bribery?" I didn't know this is...that was the... Adam Bickel That's a good one to add in there. Dr. Justin Marchegiani Yeah so he's venal open to bribery. In other words, he's got no morals. They like promote that idea. Who is this ambassador to what? Adam Bickel I don't know.

CHAPTER 11 / 44 Discussion

John Bolton's Influence and the 40-Year Presidential Cycle

Reports indicate National Security Advisor John Bolton is exerting strong influence over President Trump's Syrian policy, contrasting with the caution of Defense Secretary Jim Mattis. Dvorak discusses an 80-year historical cycle where "great" presidents emerge every 40 years (1940, 1980, 2020). They also recall Nancy Reagan's use of astrology to manage Ronald Reagan's schedule.

john bolton· jim mattis· ronald reagan· nancy reagan· presidential cycle

33:29 But, you know it's what it appears to be now is just another one of those kind of empty strikes. Just shoot around a little bit and have a big mouth... Well at least when Clinton did his to get everybody off his case he actually was busting up a civil war that was going on right? This isn't busting up anything. I want you to play this Ed Henry observation of built and clipped, which was part of his report. This is kind of interesting You mentioned that new national security team chiefly John Bolton the new National Security Advisor the former Fox News contributor The small group of reporters who were in the diplomatic reception room with President say

34:09 that John Bolton, along with Sarah Sanders the press secretary of course were just a few feet away from the president out of camera range but that John Bolton was reading along with the president line by line off to the side as he delivered those remarks clearly having strong influence not just on the speech but on the actual policy contrast that with Jim Mattis the defense secretary who has been urging a lot more caution So I'm imagining this guy, and i think this is what happened moving his lips. Have you ever worked with anybody that does this? You're reading off a prompter and the guys next to you's reading along with the prompter yeah but with his lips yes yeah I've seen that happen it's very annoying It's usually done by people who are not very professional at

35:01 Yeah, a case in point. That's pretty funny I like that yeah Okay, but still and What has actually happened nothing? Apparently nothing the mess I saw look Assad didn't get killed which i think is a good message towards it Kim jong-il over there North Korea Is like okay well at least didn't bomb him You know might have thrown a couple lobbed a couple bombs here and there Which is what Reagan tried to do with Qaddafi Well, we know how it ended up with Gaddafi if you trust people. Well I mean but first that before he got to the point where he's trusting people Reagan actually lobbed bombs right at his house and killed a couple of his kids No really? Yeah during the Reagan era Oh wow This when Gaddafi was still on the bad side of things Still seen as one of the best presidents ever Who? Reagan? Reagan! Yeah no He'll be seen that way because he's on... And I believe that's because he's on an 80-year cusp

36:00 Every president, it's a cycle for great presidents. The guy who ever gets elected in 2020... I hate to go back to this but whoever gets elected in 2020 will have the same he'll be considered or she will be considered what a great president. Yeah, it was 1940 1980 1900 I believe is Teddy Roosevelt 1760 everybody that falls on that 40 year cycle which is part of an 80-year cycle every 40 years. It's a great president automatically even if its even if it would be Trump second term Yes, then he would become a great president. If he gets voted out then He will be that you'll be seen as the Jimmy Carter if Carter got reelected instead of Reagan He would have whatever happens because of this economic cycle. He would have been considered a great president Huh? So well Reagan never would have done had this bombing take place on April 11th

36:57 And why? Oh, because Mercury was in retrograde. Nancy would not have allowed it. That's true! Yes he was a big time... You have to wait until the 50th I mean today is the day to do it. That was his wife. His wife wouldn't allow him. Yeah wasn't she running everything while he was kind of uh... Using using the horoscopes yeah well it seems like business as usual I don't know what the next step is, but by the way no one ever questions anything about this following statement. Russia Iran Syria What has Iran done that we can actually point to? What is Iran's involvement in this other than the obvious which is the pipeline

CHAPTER 12 / 44 Discussion

Pipeline Geopolitics and European Energy Interests in Syria

The hosts discuss the role of natural gas pipelines in the Syrian conflict, noting that Germany's silence on the airstrikes may be linked to the Nord Stream 2 project with Russia. They question Iran's specific involvement and mention Alex Jones's explosive reaction to the military escalation.

nord stream 2· germany· iran· pipelines· oil companies· alex jones

37:40 But you're always seeing Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia. Assad, Assad, Assad, Assad... You never hear what Iran is really ... What their complicity in this? They are arming the rebels! I have no idea. Well the information we're getting is so broad. We aren't arming the rebels, we're arming everybody. Yes yes But who is we? Is it this, it seems to be just CIA. I still want to hold to my original theory that Trump is just doing this to do it and get out because they brought him in with the stupid fake chemical weapons thing. I have no idea. The pipeline theory you had last week was the best theory. It's the best we got!

38:25 And it involves this exact same players. Why are we going bombing the shit out of them with UK France, which is total oil now and BP Shell the UK And so you have these oil companies, three count... Where's Germany? How come they're not joining in? They have jets. I'll tell you why because they're just about to open up the Nord Stream 2. They're real happy with Russia! They like all of the pipelines that they have coming in. Everything or not everything but a lot of the gas specifically goes through Germany into Europe So they're being real quiet

39:05 Yeah, they're missing in action. In fact there's no real EU presence it's just these independent players yeah All Germany is doing is making the actual chlorine bombs you know that was their contribution And they made money on it they sold it to somebody probably to us yeah It's sad and this is disturbing. It's disturbing and I'm did you Alex Jones? The seed man was going I mean I can't even play the clip I have of him It was just one big F-bomb tirade and there's no one effing this, and effing that. And f Trump! And f everybody! Emergency broadcasts get on the air for 36 hours to try and save the Republic? Wow yeah I missed that How could you it was 36 hours now but this I mean its going completely insane

40:00 Then we have all the questions in the UK, you know doesn't Parliament have to approve that and of course You know I totally think this is illegal to do this. You need Congress to To approve this but then yeah, well your in your out you do it either leave okay next time Congress no problem We're not doing anything more as the end. Yeah. Well not even that but I think under the war powers resolution The president has, what is it? 60 days I think or 30 days to go bomb people. Yeah he can do anything he wants for thirty days. Thirty to sixty days. Right Well poor use of your time President His strategy better become clear to me pretty soon Or i'm going to be very unhappy Well nigh that but its getting more complicated with his lawyer Yeah yeah But I have been following that because thats all I could really find

CHAPTER 13 / 44 Discussion

Alan Dershowitz on Michael Cohen Raid and Civil Liberties

Legal analyst Alan Dershowitz criticizes the FBI raid on Michael Cohen's office, arguing it violates the Fourth and Sixth Amendments. He expresses disappointment in the ACLU for supporting the government action. Dershowitz explains the legal dilemma Trump faces regarding whether Cohen was acting as his attorney for specific transactions.

alan dershowitz· michael cohen· fbi raid· aclu· attorney-client privilege

41:00 I have Dershowitz with a two-parter. Oh, I'd like to hear that actually. Yeah actually three part he was on NPR He's been around he seems to be the only guy they go to These days although he was never on yeah, he couldn't get on MSNBC or CNN for a while It was on Fox and you know that only brought down Initially if you really followed his career initially he was a raving lunatic liberal right? And he was on MSNBC all the time. I think he is, i think he still is a raving lunatic liberal! I think he has too but he's but he has a different perspective what I consider to be a libertarian liberal and also he's very structuralist so whatever the law says you know he really analyzes things if you don't want to hear him

41:48 Become a liberal and now he will defend conservatives He's a little bit like the ACLU. And once he started doing that they kicked him off those stations Well, let me play you can't there's nothing good about Trump period if you say anything about him that even sounds sympathetic You're off which is kind of the way people have been looking at us Let's listen to His issue with raids on lawyers offices. I think raids of lawyers offices should be reserved for the most extreme cases and I propose new legislation in fact in an article on The Hill saying that when a raid of a lawyer's office occurs, it should be accompanied by a judicial officer judge or magistrate who can make a preliminary determination as to what material is proof. I'm not worried about the rights of the allegedly crooked lawyer or doctor or priest

42:39 What I'm worried about is the ropes of the innocent client, patient or penitent that may be swept up in the raid. And the tank teams that review this consist of FBI agents and US attorneys and that seems to me like a core violation of the Fourth and Sixth Amendment-to have government officials Weeding through material may turn out ultimately to be privileged and confidential, and just simply saying oh it's okay we're not going to use it in the criminal case. But the risks of leaks are very very high, and the very fact that government agents are reviewing your most confidential confessions to your priest or statements to your doctor or statements to a lawyer is very troubling. Yeah he says this really was an issue of the Fifth and Fourth Amendment

43:24 I said fourth and sixth. He said sixth? Hmm, so... And yes and I like how really only in America –I don't think that there's any other country that I know of–that equates your relationship between you and your priest with you and your lawyer. That's a foreign concept over here for sure Oh, is it? Yeah. Attorney-client privilege? No, no it's not... My understanding is that it's not interpreted even close… certainly not as a priest. You have no privilege? You can't talk to your attorney or he can testify against you? Is that what you're saying? Yeah, yeah that's what I'm saying. Sounds like idiocracy the movie! The whole system in the Netherlands

44:06 The, you know...the judge pool is too small. So they take backup judges and they are just lawyers from big law firms. So if you want to win, you gotta hire the law firm who's going to supply a judge for your case." That seems fair! Actually it seems more American than they realize. You mentioned the ACLU. Civil libertarians should be concerned how the ACLU came out in favor of the race, not even neutral... I'm going to point that out to you. It supported the rule of law. I've been active with the ACLU for 55 years on its national board

44:45 I never remember a situation where the ACLU, without considering the implications for civil liberties of innocent people came out in support of government action. It seems to me that the ACLU is now more interested in getting Trump than they are in protecting the rights of all Americans. It's a scandal and it's a shame. I have to admit, the ACLU what a bunch of douchebags not just coming out and saying oh yeah this is completely okay They were taken over by some liberal characters, Hillbots. And I think this was in the last few years and they have been messing up the place as far as I can tell

45:28 Well, there's some there was some documentary about this one guy who just a stickler freezes the hillbodies is a Hillary Okay, so she got jipped. She got Jim All right well we have to look I'll look into this I want to find out who this guy is and how he came to power because you know The law is the law if you can interpret things but come on and then And this is really the clip I thought was the best of Dershowitz. He points out something that no one is really seeing, this incredible dilemma. There's an important issue that hasn't been discussed this morning and that is under the law of the Second Circuit statements made by one's lawyer can sometimes be attributed to that person. And that puts Trump into an interesting dilemma if he denies that Cohen is his lawyer.

46:16 for these purposes, then he loses any claim of lawyer-applying privilege. But if he acknowledges that he was his lawyer for these purposes, then statements attributed to Cohen regarding any case involving Trump could be attributed to Trump himself." So he's on the horns and a little bit of a dilemma here. Yeah I can see it's problem. Yeah well that's probably idea Unless you just say well no he was off the meter at that moment yeah he's working on his own I don't think it would hold very well, but you could try. Well this is gonna... the latest thing is they found that he was representing Crooked Cabbies or something and maybe that's why they raided the place Yeah You heard of that one? No Crooked Cabbies Yeah Crooked Cabbies Huh no I hadn't heard of that Doesn't sound right No So you were so spot on about the Me Too movement drying up right after uh that special election

CHAPTER 14 / 44 Discussion

WPP Chief Martin Sorrell Resignation and Industry Consolidation

Sir Martin Sorrell resigns from advertising giant WPP following an internal investigation into personal conduct. The hosts discuss the massive consolidation in the PR and marketing industries. Dvorak shares an anecdote about Pearson Publishing buying up computer book companies to avoid paying royalties by cloning successful titles under different imprints.

martin sorrell· wpp· advertising· pearson publishing· royalties· consolidation

47:18 It's so completely gone and even though today we had one of the largest, or maybe it was yesterday or day before. One of the largest downfalls when it comes to... I mean way bigger than Harvey Weinbag WPP chief Sir Martin Sorrell quits the agency. Oh really? Oh yeah! I missed that. Yeah. It is in the best interest of the business for him to resign, the company said He has stepped down after an internal investigation into his personal conduct. Well, it's not a Hollywood per se but it's close. How big is... I mean there's only WPP, there's Omnicom, is there even a third? Yeah, there is a third. Publis or something. I thought WPP acquired Publisis. I think they're still separate. I could be wrong but I know that there's a fourth one which is very small

48:15 We're talking about PR companies. Yeah, PR marketing. Which have been all that you know used to be a million of them and they all got consolidated which seems like nothing but a conflict the interest written all over it You hire one of these guys and then you hire, you know, one of the advertising agencies or whatever they are. Gray, Walter Thompson and right down the hall another one, another Burnback Doyle whatever they take their other client I mean it's like we can take all the clients because we're just assigning them to different sub companies that's totally corrupt this is what happened with...I've told a story before stop me if you think it's boring

48:55 Pearson publishing huge they bought up all the computer press about it you be set for one you buy it you wanna do a computer book, you went to make million you went to. A slew of them, even Dell was doing it. But everyone's doing computer books Simon and Schuster. And so Pearson bought up all the computer book companies and they're all under their umbrella. And here is the game that they play which I think is a problem with all these sorts of consolidations which the government doesn't do anything about. With Pearson they also bought out company called Q

49:32 Yeah, Q was a big publishing company and everything they did was for hire. No royalties You were paid five thousand ten thousand bucks or whatever to do a book yeah Yeah, Q with no royalties was just a pay you sold your book to them Everything no royalties And so if that even legal can they even force that kind of contract sure it is I thought that there Was you know like you can't you couldn't do that to someone in music anymore? Maybe not in music. I'd be surprised if that's true, but okay. I could be wrong But in publishing it you yeah, no, and I'm sorry You're right now of course music publishing is just as corrupt your absolutely They never even get the chance to hold on to their publishing So here's well Here's the game that they play though That was really fascinating If you had a book that looks like was becoming a bestseller mm-hmm on something or other

50:28 They would clone it and give it to Q. And let them publish, and then since they owned all the different publishers which one do you think they promoted the most? Yeah of course only one. They promoted the one that they didn't have to pay royalties to anybody. So it just killed the entire computer book industry period And it's not what it was, that's for sure. And this is what they've done with this public relations operation. They have all these companies that used to be independent and competing with each other. It's a disaster! I'm glad that guy got burned." Well...I've never met him but yeah hopefully the British press will give us a little more insight into exactly what happened

CHAPTER 15 / 44 Discussion

Elon Musk's Production Hell and Tesla Factory Robots

A CBS segment features Gail King visiting the Tesla factory, where Elon Musk admits that "production hell" was worse than expected. Musk acknowledges that over-reliance on robots actually slowed down Model 3 production and that more human workers are being integrated back into the assembly line.

elon musk· tesla· model 3· robots· gail king· production hell

51:15 So I'm sure it was when we do for our lurid. Yes, hopefully that's what we like the most luridness Okay. Well, I guess we can stop talking about That from it. Yeah, but I found some interesting old clips. I wanted to bring back up okay One of them is this one just came out of the blue? I'm digging through the archives and I found this Nixon and drugs clip okay a Forbes reports on a remark by our former Nixon aide hinting that the war on drugs had a hidden purpose. That President Nixon saw the drug crackdown as a way to arrest blacks and anti-war protesters. Ehrlichman also claimed that the White House knew they were lying about drugs Really? Yeah, isn't it interesting Wow What was that on? That was uh...that had to be on CBS morning show

52:14 Because that's what, that was... What's her name? The black girl. Right, uh... Gail? Yeah, Gail. No not- I can't be Gail! She wasn't- I can't remember there just one of the women there. Gail wasn't on THAT long No. Oh! She's Oprah's girlfriend? Yeah, she did not... well okay. That is much longer than I thought This clip is only from a couple years ago Okay thank you Wow was she around when Nixon was president Her voice sounds the same I'm sure she was but yes She did a... This is her couple of years ago It's a clip that for some reason we never played She did a piece with Elon Musk

52:55 I've got to play this clip for you. So she went to the Tesla factory and she's got her hard hat on, they both have their goggles and they're walking around and he's showing her the couch that he sleeps on which was unbelievable it was a couch and a pillow like yeah i sleep on this every night because so busy on the factory floor Yeah sure Bullshit Sure Elon! I don't know who had the worst hairpiece Gale or Elon He's looking at the two of them. But here is what went wrong, now please bear in mind this is the man who was warning us that robots are going to take over and kill us in the near future. Tesla's future is tied to this car when Musk introduced it last summer The Model 3 was built as a company's first mid-priced mass produced electric car accessible to middle class customers not just super wealthy You said to your team

53:47 Everybody get ready to meet the demand. We're going to be in production hell." Yes But you didn't expect this kind of production hell or did you? No, it's worse than I thought Why is that Why is it harder? What happened?" We got to make one car. Some of the things that we felt were our core technology, we put too much new technology into the Model 3 all at once that this should have been staged." High-tech goes in the cars but it also builds them This is widely regarded as one of the most robotics driven auto assembly lines on the planet Elon, part of the thing I heard about the Model 3 is that there's too many robots. Yeah yeah, I agree You think so too? That maybe you need more people in here working We do In some cases, the robots actually slow the production Yes they did We had this crazy complex network of conveyor belts and it was not working So we got rid of that whole thing This is cool Elon

54:43 That's literally how she replied. This is cool, Elon! This is cool, Elon! Oh this is cool, Elon! You should ISO that. It's ISO'd believe me it's ISO'd. This is cool, Elon... Now I have to ask you something. I saw this presentation and she's driving around with him and he's making a point of being hands off the wheel. Maybe I didn't see that piece Well, I saw it and he's driving and making a point of being hands off the wheel. Maybe this is another piece Yeah And I and I thought you said you had to have touched the wheel all the time when you put yeah It's gonna beep at you every 15 seconds or something? Yeah wasn't beeping But his robots didn't work so he's replacing them with Oh people oh

CHAPTER 16 / 44 Discussion

Paul Ryan's Interview with Gail King on GOP Diversity

Outgoing Speaker of the House Paul Ryan is interviewed by Gail King regarding the lack of diversity in the Republican Party. Ryan mentions his mentorship of Mia Love, but the hosts criticize his defensive and awkward response to King's statement about feeling "excluded" by the party's demographics.

paul ryan· gail king· mia love· republican party· diversity· recruitment

55:40 But but yet robots all were so close Armageddon is coming shut up He's gonna be replacing him with a ticket to Argentina Why? No, no extra edition. He's knees going nowhere Gail also I had Paul Ryan on since we're talking about Gale at one more clip. Lots of different bills with respect to workforce development, career and technical education. And we were celebrating the agenda we've passed and the agenda that we have yet to pass this session in this spring." You know I really despise this line of questioning now particularly if it starts with I don't see anyone who looks like me

56:42 Yeah, yeah. There's a bunch of old white... Hey there is no one up there that looks like me either! There is no one who looks like ME? No but although when it comes to bad hair Gail I'm sorry you know there are some rugs there but jeez you know and then so Paul this is Paul Ryan's goodbye song I don't give a crap about the guy seems like a doofus But, you know he's saying goodbye. Okay I'll do the interview with CBS okay yes I'll do it Gail can interview me and then she goes into this and how do you answer? And I don't think he was prepared for it You were one of the main people that said you want to do more for the Republican Party to expand you wanted to expand the base some say this president really doesn't want to expand the base so when I look at that picture I have to say

57:24 I don't feel very celebratory. I feel very excluded. Well, I...I don't like the fact that you feel that way. We need more minorities and more women in our party and i've been focusing on that kind of recruitment. The person who I'm a mentor to literally technically I became her mentor is Mia Love Some of my best friends are black. What are you talking about Gail? I'm a mentoring a black girl somebody I recruited in the primary to come A lot of candidates like Mia that we're recruiting all around the country because I do know We're digging them up everywhere on the country. We're getting lots of black girls gale Don't worry leave that and that's something i'm gonna keep working on That's something i'm not going away from

58:00 I'm gonna keep hunting black girls, I promise. Life! I'm going to keep being involved in focusing on inclusive aspirational politics. I'm gonna keep fighting for the things that I believe in and that's among the things I want to do. I'm gonna spend a lot of time with my friend Bob Woodson on poverty initiatives. Oh another black guy I know Those are things I care about frankly I have been not able to spend time because of pretty busy day jobs. I get no time from black people. I think he really messed it up with this one He did, that was bad What he should have said was, you know the black community has pretty much turned against the Republican Party and I'd like to ask you why that is. Anything! Anything but what he just did That's what i would have said and then what she gonna do now? You put her on a defensive Yeah well...You should be a politician yeah it should

CHAPTER 17 / 44 Discussion

Subliminal Advertising and the Amazon Smirk

The hosts discuss the "smirk" on the Amazon logo and other alleged subliminal messages in corporate branding, such as the "mom" hidden in the Wendy's collar. Dvorak remains skeptical of the effectiveness of these marketing tactics, while Curry suggests they have a psychological impact.

amazon· wendy's· subliminal advertising· logos· marketing

58:48 I don't know. Well usually even in those situations you get caught off guard by what you think is a softball interview and then somebody drops the bomb in there like that, you go abuh-abuh-abuh-abuh-abuh-abuh And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C... what does he stand for? Could have been Republican Dvorak! In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feeding the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there Yes, in the morning to The Troll Room Hello everybody Noah Jendis stream dot com My Nick seems to be changing I think right now...I don't even know if I'm Adam C-99 or any of those other All kinds of technical difficulties today We also want to say in the morning to our artist for episode 1024 The title that was Poop Particle

59:35 Which turned out to be somewhat of a downer for some people who were just saying it We're just hitting new listeners in the mouth, and they said hey you should check out the Noah Jenner show on the like really man Really gonna make me look at this poop particle show really That was title love it the art that's right why we lost all his money. It could be oh Let's see what we got. Well, hold on Mike Riley did the artwork for episode 1024 and that was the it was actually an old piece We found in the evergreens Yeah, I would bury yeah There was no agenda in the face bag logo with two thumbs up and a goofy looking smirk on the guy's face It wasn't a smirk. It was a downturn smile Yes well depends on how you look at it. I think you can look at it and see a downturn smile a smirk

1:00:23 And by the way, does anybody but me see a smirk on the Amazon box? No I see that. That's been pointed out a lot i think Well what would you put a smirk on a box? Well for the same reason that the Wendy's girl has mom around her neck on the necklace and there are all these little things it is subliminal We have to do a segment of subliminal advertising for ya There's tons of this stuff logos are very powerful. There's tons of this stuff in logo I think it's bullcrap no No, I think it really works a lot of this. I don't think it doesn't work at all Okay, I'll get some I will try you can show I know the subliminal stuff I've seen all those pages But did what is it to accomplish so you got mom on them on the bottom of Wendy? So what well not mean their burger sales go sky-high if they took the mom off and drop oh

1:01:15 I think that there's some evidence in studies, yeah. Well, I don't know if they took it off to see if it would drop but I think that they probably saw an increase in moms taking or going to Wendy's more often. Folklore. Really? Yeah Okay, I mean there's the devil the skull in the ice cube There's all these. I mean I know but no and you have guys I have to say this There are guys who can look at a magazine cover And we've seen these guys and they can say oh look at this. There's a sign of the devil. There's a Million things out that you're not seeing right? And okay Maybe you're seeing the sign of the devil so maybe your sing six six six on their

1:02:02 Does that what does that mean you're gonna go eat a baby? I mean, what does it mean? I don't know. I can only speak to the subliminal positive things like What I don't know coming into Wendy's. I'll see if I can get something together for ya. Come up with something better be strong You were on a roll today. And talking about strong, Arne Selimans from apparently EE? Where's that? That's Arab Emirates or Egypt where is that? I don't know what EE is. $333 and 33 cents. I always thought it was the Arab Emirates but I could be wrong. No there would be UAE. No no but just the two letters.

CHAPTER 18 / 44 Discussion

Biloxi Casinos and Money Laundering in Rotterdam

Dvorak describes the "penny slot" machines in Biloxi, Mississippi, which actually require a 25-cent minimum bet. Curry counters with observations from Rotterdam, where a high density of cell phone and internet shops suggests money laundering operations involving Bitcoin and overseas transfers.

biloxi· harris casino· penny slots· rotterdam· money laundering· bitcoin

1:02:43 Jobs karma, please this must this makes me that takes me to night 333 episode 716 the portal and today I understand. This is double credited Oh during so what he needs is a penny first of all He's got that one and does he have named you have a knight name? Says night, so it's gonna be just his name well Let me just check in there are miss Solomon's back office notes for a second here sir Selman's no That's just sir Selman's that's where it's gonna be okay Very good, and he needs a job karma? Jobs. Jobs. Jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs!! You've got karma. And talking about a penny...

1:03:29 So I go into the casino at Harris, this by the way, this area in Biloxi Mississippi area. It's got all the casinos it's called The Redneck Riviera and they've got these casinos but these could be so far I haven't visited many of them but I went to the Harris one since I was staying there and all the slot machines are penny slot machines, all of them! Really? Yeah minimum bet 25 cents What the hell is that all about? If it's a penny slot machine, I expect to put two pennies in it and make a bet. No no minimum 30 cents 25 cents you can't make a bet you can't bed a penny they even have penny slot machines in Vegas where you can bet a penny! I just thought that was the weirdest thing so what's this point? I believe it's some scam do you think

1:04:18 Yeah, because they say it's a penny slot machine. So there is some tax benefit or something. It's not a penny! Oh you don't have enough stuff for the old people that can only bet a penny? Okay all our slot machines are penny slot machines okay you're good to go That's my theory. Did so you went in is what you're saying yeah I did place stinks by the way bad ventilation I'm not a big fan of this Harris Casino. I'll be at the Beau Rivage and check it out next." And, I didn't even know that there was gambling there! This may be new for many of our listeners or producers out there... Oh, there's just Highway 9 or 10, 90 goes right through once you go over this bay There's just casino, casino, casino. There's the Palace. There's the Harris. There's the Beau Rivage. There's probably a Golden Nugget.

1:05:09 I don't know, up to a dozen maybe eight or nine of these casinos are all jumbled in the same area. And yeah it's where everyone comes down and gambles and you go to the tables there is a lot old women. Just while we're on that for second, I went to visit Christina she's moving into new place in the west of Rotterdam And here's what you see when you walk down the street in the west of Rotterdam. You see a Moroccan food, Moroccan food pizza, pizza, Moroccan food Greek food cell phone store, cell phone store, Moroccan food cell phone store Greek store, cell phone store, cell phone stores all money laundering operations It's like all like internet Internet Store in that coffee shop no coffees cell phones Internet I think you can buy Bitcoin

CHAPTER 19 / 44 Discussion

Value for Value Donations and Tax Day Executive Producers

The hosts acknowledge high-value donors and executive producers for the episode. They discuss the "Value for Value" model and the impact of Tax Day on recent donation levels. Several producers are recognized for their contributions of $50 or more, and the upcoming Thursday show is announced.

value for value· donations· executive producers· tax day· knightings

1:05:55 If you know what I mean, you need to send some money overseas. You buy some Bitcoin and they take care of it. We're all done! That's funny. But two next to each other... Yeah well, I've always thought half these casinos are money laundering operations. Sir Abel Kirby? Yes he sent us a mix for the end-of-show today. 333 yes he is one of the good guys Credit is able to read it curvy itm james great shows and great music lately so he's made me proud to be a producer please give me a shot of jobs karma. I'm on an airplane during sunday show my way to interview,

1:06:39 The view is great from up here. I think I can see my house all the best of night of the fighter flight That's right sir able Kirby and please listen to the end-of-show mix We've got a couple of really good ones today double jobs karma for you, sir jobs jobs jobs Jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for John You've got Karma I also got $333 from Logan, from Indiana. Hello John and Adam, this is the A Block Kill to keep it up. We're talking about last show. Keep it up for the rest of the show first of all de-douche me. My brother introduced me to the show last summer and I knew immediately that I would have to contribute to the cause sorry it took so long we spent hours per week deconstructing the cycle and try to help each other see through all the crap

1:07:41 You guys are the masters. Second, I wanna give a shout out to my smoking hot wife who is a total milf now. She's doing great with our new son and loves you guys. That is a testament to this really being the best podcast in the universe since she usually hates podcasts. I run into that people hate podcast why? Lastly, my family and I are moving overseas soon which is a lot of stress. I hope this first installment Two guys brings up some positive vibes to help things go smoothly, keep them doing great work. And then he has a... He says custom mix from Mr. Curry please for jingles. He's a showboat. He's a grandstander. The FBI director has no credibility! He is the wrong man for that position. Call me. James call me. Call me. Call me. Call me. Call me. Call me. Call me. Call me.

1:08:39 That's one mother I'd like to You've got karma Custom mix you asked that we am waiting for a little tune. Oh, ah, I knew I'd miss one somewhere along the nine Okay, the scream is good. Let me try this. But that was a horrible you did that on the fly? Yeah No kidding. This is our favorite news.

1:09:21 Indeed, Sir Duke Grand Duke Thomas Nussbaum in Virginia Beach, Virginia 31459. A pie donation as I travel from Virginia to Oregon for work." What does he do? Yeah, I don't know whatever it is it's he's doing well. Hugs and kisses love and light mac and cheese njnk All right, njnk thank you very much sir Nussbaum Baronet, so Sir Kevin Strange. No no no he's not an associate. Who? He is 168. Oh I'm sorry i'm just reading like a robot thank you for nothing Musk. You're right but he'll be at the top of the list for the next segment we have no associate executive producers tonight that doesn't happen very often that's odd

1:10:18 Yeah, it's very odd. Well we want to thank our executive producers for today's show Thank you The showing was really rather light But luckily you guys came in the way I know why okay April 15th Oh course tax day in India in the United States What day is today's date, by the way? Today would be April 15th. So tomorrow is officially tax day. Yeah actually Tuesday. They give you an extra day for summer too. Oh really? Okay, well still these will be our special executive producers. We thank you profusely Profusely I say and we'll be thanking more people in our value for value model coming up in the second Second segment $50 and above remember got another show coming up on Thursday I will be back in the in the Cluedio You'll be back in at home

CHAPTER 20 / 44 Discussion

Austin Blockchain Pilot for Homeless Identity Tracking

The City of Austin, Texas, is launching a pilot program using blockchain technology to provide unique identifiers for homeless residents. The initiative, funded by Bloomberg Philanthropy, aims to help individuals access personal records and services. The hosts mock the idea, suggesting it is a high-tech "tramp stamp" that fails to address the root causes of homelessness.

austin· texas· blockchain· homeless· qr codes· bloomberg philanthropy

1:11:14 Yes, I will be back at home. Remember us at Dvorak dot org slash n a and do just like we know when We're out and about on the road. We go up that we propagate the formula our formula is this we go out? We hit people in the mouth It's fantastic article that came out today about Austin

1:11:51 that just shows you how lost Austin is, and proves my point about Austin becoming San Francisco. As I've been noticing living downtown, Austin does not care about the homeless! They just don't care there's no real programs... well there's money but let me tell you what the latest greatest idea is for Austin I'll just give you the headline. Austin is piloting blockchain to improve homeless services Why? Well, part two of that is this is part of the Mayor's Challenge because we are a champion city. Here's the mayor's challenge it's in Quinn they do this with Bloomberg philanthropy so they're giving away money here it is use blockchain to vouch for identities of the homeless The problem for the more than 7000 people who experience homelessness in Austin

1:12:57 My God, lack of ID can mean barriers to or delays in their access to housing employment and other services critical to dignity support and recovery. The idea... Oh I like that phrase. Dignity support and recovery? No dignity support. Dignity support okay dignity support and recovery The idea, the city of Austin will use blockchain technology to provide homeless residents with a unique identifier that allows them to access their personal records at any time enabling access to critical services. Let me guess they're going to tattoo a barcode on each one of them? Well you know that I was thinking what are they doing the only thing they can do is it's a QR code so instead of a bar code would be a QR code. That would hurt

1:13:48 If they tattooed it, yeah. But you can give people an identity card but no they have to make it all swanky and make us look like a hip Silicon Valley type city Yeah we can use blockchain for baby that'll be so cool I mean come on! Yeah thats dumb Because just...I don't even understand what the difference is but okay 7,000 experiencing homelessness. Here's your QR code." Basically just when they walk up or I guess black vans pass by on the street... Hey! Let me see your barcode, your QR code. Okay come with us and they should ask IBM to administer the back office for it and then you know think here we have... I'm gonna promote the idea of the homeless in California all going to Austin because everyone else is going there from California make the homeless go there come on

1:14:47 You know one of the old games that they like to play these cities like the place the one-way ticket The one way bus take gives a whole new meaning to the term tramp stamp these QR codes. Oh We just came up with that yeah, we could bring that back could I plus 1 for the troll room? We can bring that back all the troll room came up with it not you Yeah, you don't have any credit you give credit. Of course I do but I mean this is just outrageous They're giving away money to someone who can, oh this is gonna solve homelessness and people experiencing homelessness so they will be able to identify their clients more easily. They're not going to solve anything of course No! It's a waste of money then it just an ID program come on So I have a leftover clip from last show i want to play

CHAPTER 21 / 44 Discussion

Gaza Protests and Media Blackout on Palestinian Deaths

A PBS report details the deaths of Palestinian protesters in Gaza, where Israeli troops used live fire. Protesters burned thousands of tires to create black smoke to obstruct snipers. The hosts note the relative lack of coverage of these events in US mainstream media compared to domestic political scandals.

gaza· hamas· palestinians· israel· tire burning· snipers

1:15:46 Mainly because I'm slowly forgetting what it's about. Can I just do something though? I'm sorry, I wanted to close this segment out with a little a little we have a segment We have full-on I think you could have saved that. Okay, I thought it was gonna be something different actually So I'm sorry no well you do have now we got two or three how many of these homeless jingles doing now? Have we have to go through we probably have more than that We know why cuz I'm just wondering how you know I just don't know I just was wondering How many we haven't just seems like a very unusual thing did write a jingle about Even though Chris put a huge effort into when he he this is like a two and a half minute song yes

1:16:52 PBS reports on dead Palestinians. And Israeli troops shot dead nine Palestinians. Gazan health officials said over 1,000 others were wounded. Thick smoke billowed as Palestinians burned tires to obstruct the view of Israeli snipers. The troops responded with live fire and water cannons in all at least 29 Palestinians have been killed in the last week. The militant group Hamas is organizing the protests Don't you think they should get a little more ink? What, that they're killing people? By the dozens. Now is that more than 24? Yes! A hundred something... I don't know John You tell me Certainly in America United States of Gitmo Nation there's just no news There is no news Again on my app I'm listening to all the different news channels and all I hear stormy stormy stormy Little bit of Syria

1:17:55 lawyer, people are underserved. So I'm glad you're sharing that with us Yeah, all these dead people. And the funny thing was is that they I guess that I don't know why they were starting to shoot these guys. I guess just shooting the protesters but a lot lit off a bunch of tires but not just like normally you see a pile of tires right we're talking about a garbage dump full that created this black smoke that actually blocked the snipers from being able to shoot at anybody it's quite something Must have been very healthy to breathe that smoke. Yeah, but haven't they been doing this for a week or two? I thought they had already been doing it. It's just getting worse and hasn't let up and nobody is talking about it. Hmm. You'd think Trump would say something. I have another clip from the last show... Well, just stop while you say that thank you. And Trump isn't doing any better either in that regard he's also only talking about

CHAPTER 22 / 44 Discussion

Executive Order on Work Requirements for Welfare Benefits

President Trump signed an executive order promoting economic mobility by requiring states to implement work requirements for people receiving government benefits. The hosts discuss the difficulty of enforcing these rules, noting how people in the Netherlands often "game" the system by scheduling interviews they have no intention of attending.

executive order· welfare reform· work requirements· whitehouse.gov· social safety net

1:18:54 Kind of responding to stuff. He's not bringing up any other issues I think they finally cut him off so that they're not telling him anything, but I did see he signed an executive order now It's a little harder for me to get the executive orders the way I used to because they messed up the whole White House Purpose yes, there was no RSS feeds and it's a mess He signed an executive order into law or into executive orderness, into the register that requires all states to implement programs that force people who are on benefits to either get a job or be looking for a job. Or I guess tighten up on whatever the controls they had but you have to be...you really have to be looking for work

1:19:44 in most instances and this used to be a front page thing, and now you don't even hear about it. I had to read it...I just happened to go take a look at the whitehouse.gov site Didn't the Democrats make a big stink about him even suggesting doing this at some point? Like your racist I don't remember that. Yeah, they should have but they didn't yeah here it is executive order reducing poverty in America by promoting opportunity and economic mobility There's no work for most people that are out of work like that Right but that doesn't mean you didn't sign this what you have to be looking for work That's the idea. Okay? I guess you'd be sleeping in your bed looking for working reporting systems You have to prove they have that over here

1:20:35 And it's an incredible scam. Just a couple of people have told me about it because, of course you've got the social welfare or that... Yeah, the wealth, the social net here that if you fall off the wagon then you're still gonna be pretty okay and all they have to do really is you know, make a couple phone calls or have proof with an email and say hey you know I'd love to come in. You do an interview see if I can get a job? And then the person replies okay Monday 3 p.m.. This is what I hear from pretty much everyone who's told me this story The next email they get is yeah, I really can't make it on Monday 3 p.m.. You know maybe Tuesday They really just

1:21:18 Basically bow out and get out of it because they already have the one email They needed where they can prove that they sent something off, and they have an interview And then they take that to the employment office or whatever the I mean. It's it's a We need comprehensive reform there is what I think Yeah well, I think we need I don't know what did what we need Play this clip this one here's a foot. I want you to comment on what you think you've heard about You know, Zuma has been arrested in South Africa. There's another thing there that nobody is going to talk about in the news. Okay why was he arrested? Because he's a corrupt prick! But who arrested him? The government. Okay. This is his kind of excuse... He's kind of pissed off by getting arrested since he ran the place for so long

CHAPTER 23 / 44 Discussion

Jacob Zuma Corruption Charges in South Africa

Former South African President Jacob Zuma appears in court to face charges of fraud, racketeering, and money laundering related to a 1990s arms deal. Zuma claims the charges are politically motivated and makes a controversial statement about his supporters no longer beating people.

jacob zuma· south africa· corruption· racketeering· human rights

1:20:35 And it's an incredible scam. Just a couple of people have told me about it because, of course you've got the social welfare or that... Yeah, the wealth, the social net here that if you fall off the wagon then you're still gonna be pretty okay and all they have to do really is you know, make a couple phone calls or have proof with an email and say hey you know I'd love to come in. You do an interview see if I can get a job? And then the person replies okay Monday 3 p.m.. This is what I hear from pretty much everyone who's told me this story The next email they get is yeah, I really can't make it on Monday 3 p.m.. You know maybe Tuesday They really just

1:21:18 Basically bow out and get out of it because they already have the one email They needed where they can prove that they sent something off, and they have an interview And then they take that to the employment office or whatever the I mean. It's it's a We need comprehensive reform there is what I think Yeah well, I think we need I don't know what did what we need Play this clip this one here's a foot. I want you to comment on what you think you've heard about You know, Zuma has been arrested in South Africa. There's another thing there that nobody is going to talk about in the news. Okay why was he arrested? Because he's a corrupt prick! But who arrested him? The government. Okay. This is his kind of excuse... He's kind of pissed off by getting arrested since he ran the place for so long

1:22:12 In South Africa, former President Jacob Zuma made his first court appearance on corruption charges and insisted that they're politically motivated. He is accused of fraud racketeering and money laundering in an arms deal from the 1990s The 75 year old arrived at the packed courtroom in Durban for a brief brief hearing. Afterward, he rallied with supporters and proclaimed his innocence. It has now appeared to me that those that are in charge of the law and politicians as well... And just as everyone has human rights I'm singled out as not having any human rights they talk about me whatever way truth be told they're lucky that people are no longer beaten. Hey! You're lucky! I'm not beating you!

1:23:00 That's pretty good. Yes, like what did he say? You think that was an accurate translation I'm gonna actually I'm gonna give you a borderline for that. I haven't heard a good one like that in a while Lucky we're getting beaten up beaten I Have nothing to say and in addition to the his comments yeah Have another old clip not done doing a clip blitz no it seems like you were on the road and needed to grab some It's okay calm down we're good. Yeah, I know you got a ton of clips from that too worried yeah We either passed over or they're forgotten but I thought this was interesting oh

CHAPTER 24 / 44 Discussion

Antiques Roadshow Appraisal Reactions and Format Changes

The hosts discuss the appeal of *Antiques Roadshow*, focusing on a specific clip where a woman is dismayed to learn her painting is worth $300,000 because of the insurance and security burden. They also discuss the show's "vintage" episodes that provide updated market values for items appraised years earlier.

antiques roadshow· appraisals· collectibles· auctions· fakes

1:23:57 This is a strange someone's on the antiques Roadshow. I don't if you ever watch that show Oh, I love the Antiques Roadshow The format is one of the best and I'll just explain briefly why because it's really a home game You sit there you watch the item and then just to guess the price That's the whole point course It's great. It's a lot of fun at you know, and then you like yeah, I know what I'm talking about I know my dressers nailed it. I know my cuckoo clocks I know my Civil War memorabilia. It's a genius show, it's very good yes so here is the strange reaction on Antiques Roadshow.

1:24:38 even the nails in the same place. This is its original frame, it's never been out of its frame and one of things about that impasto was a catches some of the dirt you can see that there so it could stand a little bit of cleaning if I were to put an auction estimate on it I'd put it at 200-300 thousand dollars. Oh well thats terrible What? Oh, it was such a nice picture to just sort of have around. I hate that now i have to get $300,000 for it! Wow

1:25:14 But that's I mean, of course the most the best part is when it's a fake That's what I love the most You know because they although they always do that as much as they used to but then when they do They pay it off like now if this were authentic This would be at least seventy five thousand dollars or you don't even say that an authentic piece will be seventy five Thousand dollars and sadly yours was made in Chinatown. It's worth twenty dollars They don't do that as much, they used to years ago. They used to do that a lot more another show would they have a variation on the show which I think is worth watching although they don't label it in such a way you never know what was on because of the same show from like 2006

1:25:57 They play the it's the same show you get to watch a 2006 show yeah, and then the guy gives the estimate Estimated value is $3,000 and then they go 2016 price ah yeah. Yeah, that's how they revamped the old shows which is good Genius. Yeah, because you can just keep it rolling yeah, yeah Because then you get the new product Dean it goes up and you can say this is another game show It's like you're watching you go I wonder that's more valuable now than it was in 2000. Yeah, it's meta It's like there's a you got to two parts to win in but this interesting format over here Now which makes kind of sense that it would work its famous people doing a sit-down therapy session

CHAPTER 25 / 44 Discussion

Celebrity Therapy Television and Host Participation

Curry mentions a new television format in the Netherlands where celebrities undergo therapy sessions on camera. He reveals he was offered 20,000 euros to participate but declined, calling the idea of televised therapy "insane" and potentially life-ruining.

therapy· reality tv· netherlands· celebrity· production

1:26:46 On TV. They're actually doing one? Yes, no well the show is in production it's on TV And you've seen it I have not seen it but I know that both Christina and Patricia are doing an episode Not-I don't think together maybe they aren't together I dunno That'd be something. Yes, well you know of course they sent me an email Hey this would be great if we could have you sit with the therapist for an hour so are you insane? I'm not gonna participate in that but they paid bank do they what? It's not my place to say but trust me and when they good money So what do you think you would have gotten you didn't ask oh? No, I can tell you what they offered me okay 20,000

1:27:34 Just to sit down for one show. Yeah Hmm, I'm not doing it's not doing it No way uh-uh I get but I have a three hour session twice a week and I actually make a little money So no no no no I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna ruin my life or this is a dumb idea Probably doesn't sound very smart yeah So no, thank you. No, thank you. Yeah what I'm not on the no way no way apparently Not you've got to get the right idea yes so I have a couple of clips from It was an actual hit piece on the CA and the EPA guy is this Scott Pruitt? Is that his name yeah Pruitt they're trying to get rid of him it's like you know they're trying to get rid of everybody wanted anybody Trump picked early on and prude is really a

CHAPTER 26 / 44 Discussion

EPA Chief Scott Pruitt Ethics Scandals and Regulatory Rollbacks

NBC News reports on mounting ethics questions facing EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt regarding travel expenses and a condo rental linked to energy lobbyists. Despite the controversy, Pruitt continues to advance Trump's agenda by rolling back Obama-era environmental regulations, such as the Clean Water Rule and fuel standards.

scott pruitt· epa· ethics· clean water rule· lobbying· hallie jackson

1:28:28 What I've heard is he's, besides being a target of getting him fired because he hates... He doesn't believe in global warming and thinks everything is bullshit. Apparently from some Washington insiders, he's like the most charming guy you'd ever want to meet. You just charm your socks off and that's one of the reasons they got the job in the first place and reason that they can get rid of him so easily because he's like apparently just this great guy that you want to go hang out with So they're still going after him. So let's play the hit piece

1:29:04 It's turned out of the controversy swirling around another one of President Trump's cabinet members EPA chief Scott Pruitt is facing mounting ethics questions over his travel, his use of a condo linked to energy lobbyists and hefty raises for his closest aides. NBC News Chief White House correspondent Hallie Jackson has the details. The embattled EPA administrator today getting backup from his boss. Do you support Scott Pruitt? A potpourri of problematic headlines now putting Scott Pruitt on defense with questions about links to a lobbyist from whom he rented a cheap Capitol Hill condo, about raises for favored aid over the objections of the White House. About exploring a private jet lease to the tune of 100 grand a month. Couple things first of all

1:29:56 If I call up the Lamborghini dealer and say that I would like to see one... Hey, if I were a government official what would it cost me? You mean like that. No just as I'd like to see a Lamborghini What she said was he's exploring a $100,000-a-month lease. Oh she said exploring? She didn't say that he had it and he was just exploring that? Yeah back it up this is a scandal! Oh my goodness I missed that hold on I want to hear that here we go Let's turn now to the controversy swirling around another one of President Trump's cabinet members. Controversy? EPA Chief Scott Pruitt is facing mounting ethics questions over his travel, his use of a condo linked to energy lobbyists and hefty raises for his closest aides NBC News chief White House correspondent Hallie Jackson has the details Who was confirmed? The embattled EPA administrator getting back up from his boss Do you support Scott Pruitt?

1:30:54 Back up from his boss, lots of alliteration there. Excoriating the guy for spending too much money and so he goes and finds a cheap condo from some guy happens to be a lobbyist his wife is why I'm not even the guy. Give me deal that's really cheap instead of praising the guy for saving money,

1:31:31 No, no. Now it's corruption He is part of the swamp Yeah he is part of the swamp So its like he tries to save money and he is an asshole Otherwise he spends too much money Make up your minds With questions about links to a lobbyist from whom he rented a cheap Capitol Hill condo About raises for favored aid over objections at the White House About exploring private jet lease to tune 100 grand per month Exploring a private jet lease. Wow, you're right that's horrible Yeah it's totally horrible I like the point... What is... I mean i've gone into the Bentley dealer I was in London recently and walked into oh look hey there's a Bentley let's check it out And man was checking out of Bentley up to the tune of $150,000 dollars a car That's truly National Enquirer level

1:32:22 It's very bad. That's that's Halle Berry, she's really a Trump hater that doesn't you know she's dishonest when she reports that stuff. Let her get away with it though! Yeah of course all right because it's NBC the number one Trump haters right now yes pay two about exploring a private jet lease to the tune of 100 grand a month at least one Republican congressman wants Pruitt out he's acting and arrogantly. He's embarrassing this administration, the EPA and it is just time for him to go. But two administration officials tell NBC News that the president himself called Pruitt less than 24 hours ago with one source saying he told his EPA chief keep fighting we have your back

1:33:06 An agency spokesperson tells NBC Pruitt is focused on advancing President Trump's agenda and under his leadership the EPA is doing just what the president wanted. One of the worst examples A federal regulation. Pruitt, rolling back regulations put in place in the Obama administration like the clean water rule the Clean Power Plan and tougher fuel standards announced today What an exciting day The administrator flanked by signs with the words jobs and certainty I love these signs particularly signs that say jobs And not so subtle message maybe from a top official going nowhere for now Oh gosh

1:33:46 And she yells, this lady. She is kind of a yeller I think most of the NBC presentations are kind of yelling. Yelly! I have to look into the clean water thing they're talking about because i'm sure it's something stupid 1972 I don't think that's what...I don't believe what she says. There is a bunch of stuff that set in stone, they're not going to change any of it It has something else like it has to do with the fish or you know some something. I'm sure its some specific thing that would make sense to back off on Well there is good news when it comes to climate change

CHAPTER 27 / 44 Discussion

Environmentalism and the Decision Not to Procreate

A BBC report features an environmentalist who has decided not to have children to reduce her carbon footprint. She describes her sustainable lifestyle, which includes veganism, cycling, and washing her hair only once a month. The hosts mock the nasal quality of her voice and the self-defeating nature of her philosophy.

climate change· bbc· environmentalism· veganism· population control

1:34:28 As our grandchildren, your grandchild... what's his name again? The adorable yes, yeah what I thought Harold for some reason. I couldn't I knew it was something Harold Harold or able The adorable He's going to be in a class of his own you know he'll grow up to you know not buy bullcrap Of course is he's a Dvorak So what do you expect but also the the climate changers instead? so I'm sure if the adorable will be a denier right and

1:35:06 Well, don't forget I have by proxy. I have three other grandkids Eric's children ah yes of course what am i saying and how do you think they're doing? One of them is that they're doing this interesting because the personality of these three is so different. And one of them is kind of a cynic, he's the closest thing to a classic Dvorak and the other two are I think...I don't know they're gonna be their kind of homeschooled so they're probably not going to be caught up in the bull crap. Okay good Well, according to this report from the BBC people who believe that we as human beings are killing the planet and destroying it with our climate change are just going to stop making any more of them.

1:35:52 It started off just being, oh I don't want to have children and then it became...I became aware that actually the best thing I can do for the environment is not to have any children. Now I would call myself an environmentalist and I try and live in a way that is as sustainable as possible so things like cycling everywhere I'm a vegan. I don't shower every day, and I wash my hair every day in fact only wash my hair about once a month. Whoa! Wow she's from Berkeley There is little bit more to this hold on I want hear that sequence again which he doesn't do Live in a way that is sustainable as possible. Sustainable John listen up let's listen we want sustainable as possible so it could be even more

1:36:33 So that's things like cycling everywhere and I'm a vegan. Cycling everywhere? Vegan, I don't shower everyday and I don't wash my hair everyday in fact i only wash my hair about once month Once a month Can you tell Yeah it stinks Inescapable that having kids in the first place creates a resource consuming person That not me trying to sound like no one should have kids but its kind of a fact If I fell pregnant I would have an abortion So we don't have to worry, John. They're not going to procreate. Yes that's a plus which is kind of self-defeating because if you're like what are we leaving for our children? Well you're not gonna have any it could be my children so don't worry about it well they're doing a good job at keeping the place clean from our children yeah but I mean but they can't even say they have no right to say anymore you know was bad for the children well you know now you're not having any kids

1:37:34 Does she have a big giant nose? I don't recall why. Because she has the voice of a person with a big nose. Oh, like a little nasally? No just...I don't know how to describe it. Well that was a good one! Meanwhile, South Carolina is one of the first states to really wake up to the emotional support mammal scam. There wasn't in the report but I'm sure she has a dog or some other mammal. I had a dog and flew out first class not flying back first class unfortunately because they couldn't get me a seat.

CHAPTER 28 / 44 Discussion

Emotional Support Animal Scams and Service Dog Legislation

South Carolina is considering legislation to crack down on people who falsely represent their pets as service animals. The hosts discuss the distinction between highly trained service dogs for the disabled and "emotional support animals," citing recent incidents involving support peacocks and ponies on airplanes.

service dogs· emotional support animals· south carolina· scams· air travel

1:38:10 I flew out first class with a Japanese metallurgic engineer and we were chatting about stuff, mostly components of jet engines. And I didn't notice it but the guy in first class had one of these service dogs Now was it a real service dog or what? Was he blind? I think it must have been because he seemed like a very calm dog and didn't bark. He didn't make any...I didn't know until the flight was over that this dog was even on board Right, but there was the dog performing any services for him like you know getting bloody marys No, no stewardesses did that And I should say flight attendants So so it must have been an emotional support dog then not a service dog It said service dog on the dog

1:38:54 That's part of the scam. A group in South Carolina that trains service animals say faking is a disgrace to those who really need them. People who simply go online and slap a jacket on a dog or get a fake license and represent their dog as a service dog sometimes, probably most times don't realize what injustice they're doing

1:39:35 through legitimate ones. The bill's authors say using a fake service animal causes problems for businesses North Carolina is among the states that have this law right now the South Carolina bill is in the House Judiciary Committee Go South Carolina! I think we did that in California already Oh really? Yeah Or there's something pending, whether you have to have approval and you have a doctor sign off. And then it has to be official dog that is trained by one of these operations like the one in South Carolina. But it's still not a service dog? Well what does this serve? You mean a dog for the blind? A guide dog? Yes! A service dog is literally a dog trained to perform certain services for human beings that human being cannot do because of certain specified

1:40:25 ailments. Right? Yes, yeah. The confusion is with these emotional support dogs. Yeah that is not a service dog and it does not have the same rights as a service dog well that's what they're going after these emotional support dogs exactly and that's what I think you had on the plane. Some guy came in with a more emotional support pony yeah and there was a thing at SFO with the emotional support peacock. Yeah the peacock yep Yeah, but I what I did want to ask you about regarding California the I don't know if this is a big deal or not But it came in as breaking breaking since when did breaking news just become breaking. Oh yeah, that's a good point It's it's I don't know if I like it breaking Just says breaking cuz breaking news is one thing with breaking. It's like oh wow well. It's just like you're and your abrev Yeah, you're right isn't their breathe

CHAPTER 29 / 44 Discussion

Referendum to Split California into Three States

A proposal to split California into three separate states—NorCal, Cal, and SoCal—has reportedly gathered enough signatures for the ballot. Dvorak criticizes the proposed boundaries as a political scam designed to create more Democratic senate seats. He suggests his own horizontal split would be more equitable.

california· 3stateca· tim draper· gerrymandering· ballot initiative

1:41:14 Breaking. Whatever. Referendum to split California into three states will be on the ballot Three states is the right number, but it's gonna be on the ballot. The problem is yeah I think so whether trying to get it on the ballot The problem is they're gonna split wrong? I know exactly how to split into three states I've written about it Oh and It has to be horizontal So everybody gets ports what they'd like to do Is he have one state be just a border which has all them all the wealth in ports that And then they'd have the middle and, you know... They got it all kinds of different ways of dividing it up. But if she... Let me tell you what they have so the three...and you can find it at 3stateca.com. Excuse me. NorCal, Cal... Is this spelled three or three? Three or three? Three T-H-R-E. So we have NorCal, Cal and SoCal. Yeah that's a way I had to...that's where I proposed it seven years ago

1:42:15 ThreeStates what dot com? ThreeStateCA.com It's kind of a bad domain name You think? Yeah This site can't be reached threestate.ca No, threestateca.com Three States! No! ThreestateCA.com T-H-R-E-S-T-A-T-E-C-A dot com Tango, Hotel Romeo, Echo, Echo Sierra, Tango Alpha, Tango Echo Charlie, Alpha Yeah okay I got it. I'm there NorCal SoCal See yep this is exactly what i don't like Didn't think that was what you were talking about

1:43:03 No, what I've got is... Tell them what they've got here because you understand these maps. I look at it and just like, uh-uhh Okay they have a NorCal which is everything north of Gilroy or maybe a little further south and then that whole thing's one state and that includes the entire San Francisco Bay Area and probably 1 3rd of Silicon Valley Yeah And then there's SoCal, which is Bakersfield and most of the state. All the arid areas including but it swings over to include San Diego and then Cal is bullshit this is like...it looks like a

1:43:42 It looks like a big dildo. It does! It's a dildo on the side of the state that has all the ports from, it looks like Monterey all the way down to Long Beach That's where you want to be Yes because you got all those...all the money will be there going through there and includes Los Angeles it looks like This is bullcrap this not the way to do it There's no sharing this state Right, but you can see that it's just political because what they've done is said look how many people there are. They're trying to make an equal amount of people. No I think what they're trying to... yeah there's an element of that but i think what they're really trying to do here is make it so you have two of the three states Democrat and one of the states Republican

1:44:33 So that way you end up with four Democrat senators instead of two and just two Republican senators. This is obviously, you can see the red state blue state stuff. So why don't they just call it Ukraine Poland and Romania and be done with it? That'll be perfect. Yeah, might as well But but in all seriousness if this is gonna be on the ballot that means It's being taken seriously they claim they have enough votes already to get it on the ballot Do you think do you think Californians are into this I don't think California know what they're doing but that's not my question I mean can people be convinced not with did the way This is drawn up This is not convincing to me. It's not it's not

1:45:17 It's just not right. It's no good. Well, this is your... Actually the Southern Californian Cal as they call it, Cal is really closer to being the same place. The way you want to cut it off so what do you want to do is take out that Bay Area to Sacramento and down through San Jose and make that California Which includes the gold rush country and all that stuff then you take the Jefferson, which is the You know the state they call themselves Jefferson already. Which is Northern California above Ukiah or actually above Just south of Reading and all the way to the border And then you South of San Jose make that Southern California, and that's the whole shebang down there They can it is what it is well I don't think there's a competing group with any other ideas than this one. I think these are the guys

1:46:10 Yeah, well this I've seen it before. It's not gonna fly. It's too transparently a scam But you see the scams that are being perpetrated on people and that seems to work So why why wouldn't this work? They just need a little bit they need a little heat little fire then a little meme going on It's gonna be there's going to be one large corporation that's gonna look at this and say yeah This isn't working for us, and they're gonna put ten bucks Ten dollars total into the anti campaign in the don't get it'll go their way Okay you know how? You've been talking about Antibiotics no longer working on people. Yeah, this is a big story everywhere I

CHAPTER 30 / 44 Discussion

Bacteriophage Therapy for Antibiotic Resistant Infections

The hosts discuss bacteriophage therapy as an alternative to failing antibiotics. Because the treatment is difficult to access in the EU and US due to regulatory hurdles and lack of interest from Big Pharma, patients are traveling to clinics in the Republic of Georgia. The therapy uses specific viruses to target and kill harmful bacteria.

bacteriophages· antibiotics· georgia· big pharma· bacterial infections

1:46:55 Yeah, I mean you brought it. You were the first one that brought to my attention this and what's the reason again because of overuse or just the bad? Over use and misuse people sometimes they don't take all antibiotics are supposed to leaving a couple of semi-resistant bugs in them and those things grow to be totally resistant and then giving them to chickens and making people take antibiotics for acne, all kinds of viruses and colds. It's just yeah we've screwed the pooch on this deal. A friend of mine who lives here you know him but I don't want to mention his name because i don't know if he wants it to be known He has lung issues they had bacterial infections on his lung that took out half as long a while ago so he still has maybe some mold

1:47:42 on as long? Does that sound possible, doesn't sound right. Yeah yeah there's actually a you can get valley fever in California from the winds that sometimes go from east to west and they if they come up from the San Fernando Valley or the San Fernando Valley not the San Fernando is the San Joaquin and Sacramento Valleys mm-hmm There's a bunch of dust down there especially south because it cut off the water supplies for the farmers It's all dusty, it's like a dust bowl and there is some fungus in there. And antibacterials don't work?

1:48:18 No, no it's a fungus anyway. Molds and fungus don't respond to that So my friend is getting this he's getting treatment Something called bacteriophageous treatment have you ever heard of this? Oh yeah Yeah they're a big deal It's illegal in the EU so he's in Georgia right now It's almost illegal here They...it was a This was just a scandal if you know there's a couple of phage guys That came out of Evergreen thats why I know anything about that are very famous and they've all had to move their research out of the country because the big drug pharma companies don't want anything to do with these guys. Exactly, this has been outlawed in the EU and even Taxi Eric had heard about it so I guess it was a big conversation at some point. Why else would he know about it?

1:49:07 But so my buddies in Georgia and they have a clinic in Georgia, Poland also has a couple of clinics but I'm not quite sure how they're doing that legally you know with the EU and all that. But yeah it's you know this is you get spit in the cup and oh yes what they actually do when they're now checking at airports to make sure you're not you know carrying anyone's samples you have to actually go there now to Georgia Give them your samples used to be able to maybe it was they you could send them through the mail or why? They won't allow it. That's that but what's the rationale because they don't want people to do it

1:49:46 That's the rationale. Very well known, it was a well-known methodology some apparently some years and years and years ago and then it fell into disrepute for some reason. Do you know how it works? Yeah! It's essentially uh...a little bug that finds the bacteria, the bad bacteria and just sucks it dry. They match it to whatever bacteria you got going on And that's why they need a culture or something, or they need some of your DNA whatever it is. Then they match that takes about 10 days or two weeks and then they treat you and I think its oral. It's not painful or anything its no blood transfusion. I don't know if they need your DNA? I think just need a sample of whatever it is you have. Its not a DNA technology. No its just whatever...I guess your saliva will contain something

1:50:43 I don't know how it works. They give you a stomach... All I know is it's supposed to be the future of anti-bacteria killers, so like a higher... We should find out about these companies and buy some calls! Day traders yeah! Invest! I was blown away. And I put a couple links in the show notes, nashownotes.com if you're interested and take a look under Big Pharma because yeah clearly this is another one of those... it only cost 3,000 euros. Let's just say 3500 bucks. 3500 bucks you can't even spend two hours in the hospital let alone go to a clinic for 2 weeks. Obviously have to pay separately for wherever you're staying but its outpatient

CHAPTER 31 / 44 Discussion

Cannabis Oil and Cancer Treatment Research

A BBC report explores the use of cannabis oil by cancer patients who claim it has cured their tumors. While some oncologists remain skeptical, calling it "snake oil" without clinical trials, companies like GW Pharmaceuticals are beginning to develop cannabis-based drugs. The hosts discuss the legal barriers to research in the US and the history of cannabis use in the Netherlands.

cannabis oil· cancer· bbc· gw pharmaceuticals· chemotherapy· medical research

1:51:35 So it's affordable. They'll probably make a comeback here after people, somebody who runs a big pharma company or his wife dies of some horrible disease because of that. Oh then they'll change it? Yeah they'll get some religion? Yes. All right well this is a clip that might be good what was this clip yeah here's an archive clip that I ran into This is another situation that the big pharma guys don't like and this is, you can stop this whenever you want it's just a kind of interesting. This cannabis and cancer clip. The impact of taking cannabis oil was the fact that the cancers gone all the tumors are gone they dissipated in my body with no evidence of metastatic disease they're just gone

1:52:22 Stephanie's doctor confirmed to the BBC that the tumours had gone, despite her opting out of conventional medicine. But stopped short of endorsing cannabis oil. The cannabis works no chemo I only did cannabis and the tumors are gone and scans i have is evidence in proof for that Kind of like what more do you need and she also sounds really happy? Doesn't she sound stone. She sounds like that I wish I had the clip handy we do have it somewhere where this Ellen whatever names it with the Macintosh computer and the dog ate the The computer ate her paper remember that very famous advertisement for the Macintosh, that was

1:53:05 This girl was just completely blitzed. I don't remember that! You don't remember this commercial? No! Ellen Feiss I think is, if you look up Ellen Feiss. FEISS? Yeah, I think so. Commercial. You'll find it and play it online. Oh yeah no that's not easy for me to do right now. Okay well...I'l dig it up and we can play because its..you've heard it. You just don't remember it. Was this from the BBC some earth shattering report where they oh my gosh It turns out it works against cancer. Is that what this is? Yeah, pretty much A lot more according to one of the world's leading oncologists This is chemotherapy So these are natural products The man who helped cure Lance Armstrong's cancer needs data and real scientific evidence Until somebody proves it whether be the manufacturers who put together a clinical trial Whether it'd be doctors who get government funding to do it

1:54:04 or patients who say, here are my records and let's put it in a medical journal and be transparent with what I had, what I was treated with and what my outcome was. Then until that it is snake oil. Again, I am not trying to impede progress or say its bad but at the same time I don't want people to get false hope So, cannabis. Snake oil. Can this plant cure some forms of cancer? What is the evidence? There have been hundreds of scientific papers published This study came out at the University of East Anglia last year Why is it... I'm sorry and when I hear in a different language It really becomes apparent why do we accept this kind of reporting The whole time In your face! Why Do We Accept People Talking Like This To Us

1:54:47 that mice with cancer had their tumors reduced using cannabis. This the first human clinical trial, eight out of nine patients responded but they all died within the time you'd expect despite that there's a long list of charities and research groups that say it's an interesting development it may have a clinical use and now the big pharmaceutical companies are getting involved This huge cannabis garden is in Britain. GW Pharmaceuticals is developing drugs from the cannabis plant, the latest human trial is a cannabis oil to treat brain cancer We understand how some of these molecules work we have the preclinical evidence and the regulators have given us permission therefore to expose humans in a clinical trial setting at this point in time

1:55:35 But for now, it's an underground industry. A bloke in a backyard with a stick and bucket and jar of solvent. Ha ha! A bloke in the backyard? Stick in a bucket. A bloke in the backyard... Oh is that got a bloke in my backyard? What they don't mention in this whole report is that it is almost incredibly illegal to do any of these tests they're talking about in United States Yes They refuse to take it off of the schedule. They refuse to let people research with it, I mean has to be done... It's been done mostly in Israel is where most of the research takes place and people always talk about oh what just needs more research you can't do the research so we have the British report Where they conclude that this is all done underground by a bloke in the backyard The American Report would be it's all done by a dude in a dark alley

1:56:29 Yeah, something similar for sure. The latest human trial is a cannabis oil to treat brain cancer We understand how some of these molecules work we have the preclinical evidence and the regulators have given us permission therefore To expose humans in a clinical trial setting at this point in time But for now it's an underground industry A bloke in a backyard with a stick bucket and jar of solvent who's making the cannabis oil He wanted to be known only as Cell, not because the cannabis is illegal in California but because of the flammable materials he's using. We then pour the liquid into a pan So this is...this is the finished product? Yes that's the finished product there's about one gram of oil in there And do you think this is a cure for cancer

1:57:22 In many instances it is and it can be. It depends on the person's particular condition or their state, how advanced the cancer is but we've seen thousands and thousands of people get better from using this oil I squeeze out a very little amount and then I just... and swallow it But to be effective, Sarah needs to take a lot more than this. And eating a gram a day is too much for many people. Oh wow! When you ingest it, you get 20% of the medication... The properties that actually attack the cancer when you do it rectally You get 70%. So you're actually getting more benefit

1:58:11 I'm proud of doing it that way. And you don't get high? And not only do we have a cold, there's no sleepiness... There is no side effects It is her only hope. But it will save her from treating medicine. I'll continue doing it until the cancer is gone. I believe its the best option and I've seen it work for others and um..I'm hoping it will work for me And that's all for this week from all of us at Newsnight. You know, this used to be a very common practice in the Netherlands and now that I think about it... because my mom went through lung cancer and I was part of that process you know it used to be you'd have this kind of story..I'm talking in the 70s people yeah yeah like and they would actually get their cannabis subsidized

1:59:06 And it would be for the cancer-fighting properties and, you know of course it was always well... It's good for people to smoke this when you're on chemo. Right! You can still control your appetite and less nausea etc., but I think that they've always been kind of hitchhiking on the back of cannabis we're saying yes see our chemotherapy worked and you just smoked some weed to not be nauseous But maybe it's the other, you know. Maybe it was really the cannabis that was doing the work. It is a possibility? They don't even talk about that anymore! That's not even an option. They just kind of went away like the coffee shops are going away. It's all being harmonized Hey thanks to Jenwich from The Troll Room he got me the Ellen Feist Apple commercial Here we go I was writing paper on the PC and it was like beep-beep-beep-beep-beep Oh yeah, you're right. And then half my paper was gone and I was like

CHAPTER 32 / 44 Discussion

Vasectomies and the Fountain of Youth Myth

Following a donation from a producer undergoing a vasectomy, Dvorak shares a historical theory from the 1920s that vasectomies were once marketed as a "fountain of youth" procedure. He claims the procedure can soften male features, leading to what he calls an "old lesbian" look, and mentions his ongoing banter with Brian Brushwood on the subject.

vasectomy· brian brushwood· fountain of youth· lobotomy· medical history

2:00:05 It devoured my paper. It was really good paper and then I had to write it again, and I had to do a fast so it wasn't as good. It's kind of a bummer. I'm Ellen Feist and I am student Yeah! I do remember your eyes Of course you do Those... that was great campaign. I think it worked really well Yes, I think so too they haven't done anything like it since The second best with the PC and Mac guys argue with each other and then now it's just been schlock. Now we do have some people to thank for show 1025, let's start with a name from the past

2:01:04 No, sir. Tom it are sorry as baronet Sir Kevin strange is from the past From the past donation best donations good work It came in with hundred sixty eight dollars and twenty two cents from Norwich Norfolk Great Britain what is one of this? What's a pair of balls donation? Yeah I see it 84 11 is is ball Eight is B, four is A. The ones are L's and twice that is a pair of balls donation I like it! We should put that on our regular list Yeah Please send one Wait wait wait They said please send me some vasectomy healing karma so to ensure I don't start looking like a lesbian Have you learned nothing from this show man? What woman has this power over you

2:01:58 I think you should cut your nuts off. Can you do that for me? I'm gonna give him some karma, quick! You've got karma. Poor guy! Hey honey... Look John stop spreading fake news a vasectomy does not involve cutting your nuts off because then i have to listen to Brian Brushwood complaining about it for another five years. John doesn't know what it is Yeah, we do Brian. We just look in the mirror bro. We know you got a vasectomy please tell all the newcomers your theory didn't okay? I'm fun of you ask uh I discovered a book in the 1920s that I still have a copy up and it's to talk about certain medical procedures and Vasectomies are not new and they were used in the 20s as a youth

2:02:52 It would make you, the vasectomy was, men were told get a vasectomy and you'll look younger. Because it changed, I don't know why technically can see any reason why it would do that but apparently it does and what it does is make your face more pasty. It does certain things to changes your biology a little bit but this was like a fountain of youth fad. Another one that came along some years later was the lobotomy There was actually a fattish thing and there is apparently some guy in central park that would give you get lobotomies without having to really go into the doctor's office because of people person knew what they were doing could she.

2:03:33 Slip a needle. Wait, how long ago was this? This is in the 30s. Oh it was fashionable like I think I'm gonna have a lobotomy Yes And you can slip a needle because yeah, if you were hysterical they were depressed all the time There's a million reasons to have it done They would slip a needle behind your eyeball and the thing was guess It was curved a certain way they could actually nick and cut off the little piece of brain That hooks the front to the back So they do this, they could do this. Apparently this is being done in Central Park people were lined up for this. Wait is where the expression comes from I need that like a hole in my head? Or another hole in their heads, people going back!

2:04:16 So it was one, but the vasectomy as a youth thing to make you look more youthful and give you more energy. I probably had a song and dance about it was popular in this book that's where I first saw it And the first thing I noticed is that guys who showed before-and-after pictures of whole bunch of men Really? Yeah, before the vasectomy and then like a year later. And they all had softened their features that softened and they did look a little younger there's no doubt about it but they also looked a little more feminine and since this was done to I don't know middle-aged guys i'm not sure what the ages were but I started noticing this with men who had had vasectomies and I will say this not all of them but most of them start to look a little bit like old lesbian

2:05:06 As if there's a uniform lesbian look. There is, I think and at least I think that there's a uniform lesbian looking. I just think it's the Chris Hayes look that's pretty much it A little bit, a little bit. I think they remember Gina McCarthy? The former head of the EPA Sure That's the look I'm talking about. Whoa man now its getting real So I mentioned this to Brushwood and he was you know, his wife made him get a vasectomy. Made yeah? Yeah, I could be wrong No no no no I know her well oh yeah Oh, yeah We know who the boss is there okay Well she said once you either get a vasectomy or cut your nuts off or something sick of it I'm sick of you

2:05:57 He's been very irked about this I think because... Oh yeah. He looks like a lesbian already so... Tina and I really like them, we're supposed to hang out again soon and that may not happen now after episode 1025! I can assure you although he probably has a mole that listens to the show that will tell him because he doesn't listen to this show It's too busy Yeah, he's too busy. He was pumping iron to kick our ass! Anyway onward with the donations yes good luck there Baroness Sir Kevin Strange or should I say Baroness Sir Kevin Strange? Okay, even I won't go with that joke couldn't help myself Kurt Kubel in 9999 from parts of 999

CHAPTER 33 / 44 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony and Producer Accolades

The hosts conduct a formal knighting ceremony for Arne Selimans and James Barrington (Sir JT Barrington) for their $1,000 contributions. They read the traditional list of "hookers and blow" rewards and thank the producers for their continued support of the show's value-for-value model.

knighting· james barrington· arne selimans· donations· producers

2:06:49 Birthdays on tax day, that's funny. Love the Monica Clinton versus Stormy slash Trump comparison a few letters back and keep on keeping on. I'm not sure we just had another one of those today. Oh right, right what are we talking about? Yeah because she's kept address. Yep Christopher Dector 5678 parts unknown Sir Pinder Net double nickels on the dime 5510 and he says it is new knight who Is he gonna be knighted today? I can't tell. Let me see... No! Well, he's calls it maybe he's already been knighted. Let me see what he says as a new Knight. Yeah no we pinned him recently yes okay I recall now sure Greg Dial double nickels on the dime John Tennis He is getting knighted 5125 West Lynn Oregon

2:07:50 I'll read a little of this. First became aware the NOAA Geneshow and is promoted on Cranky Geeks, that's when i was at Mevio doing Cranky Geeks. Oh yes Yeah, obviously because I wasn't doing cranky geeks. You know and yeah it wasn't video I listened for a month and decided was indeed the best podcast in the universe not wanting to be a douchebag I knew that I had to help produce this show I started with five dollars a month And he went on and he's he wants me sir JT Barrington night of The Black Telecaster yes He's in plays in and on the list are mm-hmm All right, these are $50 donors name and location. Mayor Kleinwax, Trevor Hoagland in Portland Oregon Keith Yarborough in Austin. Matthew Hart... Sorry? I said hey Keith! Matthew Hardy in the Gold Coast Queensland Australia. I'm on the Gulf Coast

2:08:49 Sir Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Brandon Savoie. Sir Brandon Savoie in Miami Florida or he's important orchard Washington sorry it's Dame Patricia Worthington she's in Miami Florida Robert Weber in San Jose, California and last on this very short list John Haller in Missoula Montana. I want to thank all these folks for helping us do show 1025. Yes and thank everyone who came in under $50 for anonymity reasons or maybe you're on one of the multiple subscriptions which eventually do become Nightingale Hoods that's a fact and for those of you who got some money back from your

2:09:28 municipality and or government think of us please for our next show that'll be on Thursday Dvorak org slash na we can use all the help we We can get and Please note that. We are really bringing pulling out all the stops to bring you this show today from multiple locations around the world No matter what comes across our path, we still are able to do the show Yeah there we go hey go jobs Jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs You've got karma And we have two

2:10:35 Nightings, so I'd like to get them up on stage here. All right front the little one Oh Well hold it up close to the mic then now pull it out very good Yeah I pulled it out for you. Thank you. Armis, Selmas, John Tannis, gentlemen hop up here on the podium next to the lectern and right over there you see at the round table of the Noah gen the Knights and our dames and you are about join that their company thanks to your support of The Best Podcast a university amount of $1,000 or more now hereby pronounce the KT Sir Selman's and Sir JT Barrington Knight of the Black

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CHAPTER 34 / 44 Discussion

Biloxi Meetup and MailChimp Geofencing

Dvorak announces a listener meetup at "Knuckleheads" in Ocean Springs, Mississippi. Curry explains how they used MailChimp's geofencing tools to notify producers within a 200-mile radius of Biloxi about the event.

biloxi· knuckleheads· meetup· mailchimp· geofencing

2:11:47 Do we have great producers? I mean, again... We just say, oh it would be great if we could get that commercial. That Apple commercial and then within six not even four minutes it's on MP3 on the mail Well I hope to see a few of them having a meet up tonight Oh do tell at, what's the name of the place? Knuckleheads in Orchard Springs. Oh no, Ocean Springs. Is it a comedy place? Ocean Springs... No it's just a beer house. It should be! It sounds exactly like a comedy place doesn't it? Yuck yucks I mean it's a comedy place. Knuckleheads although could be a bunch of but could be a biker bar too

2:12:37 Yeah, it doesn't appear to be so not in that town. So I just thought you'd mention that to anyone who probably get about...I don't know how many people are going to show up should be a few we have about 60 people in the area. I was gonna say did you send out a special bulletin and APB? Yeah yeah yeah to the...you can separate out what you do is pick a town and then you tell MailChimp to go 200 miles out Oh man! You're little Cambridge analytic aren't ya Yeah, a little bit. I had... where was that clip? I had a clip about... ah yes here we go Heather again back with Matt and when i was watching this and it's become watchable because of the Heather and Matt dynamics and you know she's interesting she's trying to be funny in and she also has an element of ditzyness which is kind of cool cause then we can laugh about her and she hasn't really been struggling yet

CHAPTER 35 / 44 Discussion

Global Engagement Center and State-Sponsored Disinformation Funding

Heather Nauert provides an update on the Global Engagement Center (GEC), which is soliciting proposals to counter state-sponsored disinformation. The center, now funded by the Department of Defense, is described by the hosts as a "propaganda team" that recruits private sector talent and uses cutting-edge technology to manage data and messaging.

global engagement center· state department· disinformation· propaganda· department of defense

2:13:33 But do you recall there was a clip about an ambassador and I think it was Kenya either Kenya maybe Uganda which one? And he had this, it was like global engagement center inside the embassy. They were teaching people how to figure out what fake news is I lost track of this. I've completely forgotten about this Well it turns out and now this is quite a while ago, and then when I went looking for it even crazier I found in the 900 range of episodes like 950's I found two dynamite clips about you know them basically predicting This that they were not predicting but just saying hey This is what we're gonna do And this is I think maybe before let me see oh

2:14:19 What episode would have been before the whole fake news thing really blew up during the campaign? Would that have been in the 950s? It'd be about a year and half ago, wouldn't it? I think around September of 16. When it really got hot Let me see... maybe if I look at the show notes let me see If we look at 16 December That was the 890 so it would've been 17 Yeah maybe the 850's It was two years ago at least Yeah, it was a while ago. Anyway... So it turns out that not only is this the real thing which I think yeah and I didn't pull those clips but it was Heather and Matt and Matt was like you know what is this thing she's no oh yeah if there's anything well fine look into it'll see if there's anything more well she came back and boy does she have more because there was apparently a grant

2:15:15 for this stuff, and it's not about teaching people how to separate real news from fake news but how to create it. Do you believe your more responsible with millions of Americans personal data than the federal government would be? Oh hold on a second that is the wrong clip what am I doing Sorry, here we go. Okay so let's get started next I know many of you are interested in the global engagement centers and wanted to bring you an update on that i'm pleased to offer an update On the global engagement center specifically on a funding opportunity that was kind of cool what happened there is she said she was Ad-libbing I want to provide you an update And then she switched over to her paper and she basically said the same thing again reading from the paper

2:15:59 Did you hear that? Yeah, no. Play it again. Next I know many of you are interested in the Global Engagement Center so i wanted to bring you an update on that I'm pleased to offer an update on the Global Engagement Center, specifically... She went right to the favor. Oh yeah, I'm saying the same thing! She noticed it. ...funding opportunity that we launched several weeks ago to solicit proposals to counter state-sponsored disinformation. This program is called The Information Access Fund The notice of funding opportunity closed on Wednesday night and we received approximately 150 proposals from around the world. The response shows the active interest that civil society groups have to play a role in countering foreign disinformation. The GEC will now begin its review with the proposals for technical merit. We intend to move quickly to support the top proposals after the anticipated transfer funds from the Department of Defense is completed."

2:16:55 For organizations that missed the deadline but are interested in working with the GEC, they have another opportunity to apply for funding opportunities posted on grants.gov and that doesn't close until April 23rd so we'll keep you posted with any updates on that now. So this is The Global Engagement Center, which is now funded by the Department of Defense—which was just some thing some ambassador in some African country was kind of toying around with. But thanks to probably Matt pressuring saying hey what I want an update on this what is it? Now we're finding out that this is quite an operation and it's not just to

2:17:31 to help people learn in the information center there near the embassy, help people learn how to... you know oh that's fake news I can detect it now. No! It's how to stop nations from spreading fake news this is a cyber force that they are now bidding out to well let's say that secondly on the GC proposals these are a hundred from 150 different companies for various proposals 150 proposals from countries around the world from country will not come governments themselves but from individuals and geos things of that nature and okay so like someone may have an idea in organization somewhere in the world may have an idea about how we can best

2:18:13 handle or best combat a state-sponsored disinformation. So they will submit their proposals and we'll take a look at them and find the ones that have the best merit, and look at engaging with us. You don't happen to know of Cambridge Analytica? I'm not aware of that now. And then last one on Sullivan's meetings... So, I went looking for this grant because you know there's a place to search for it right now yeah then you got the full The full term there, it's the global engagement center. That's probably what I think I found something on but even better...I found an older clip this is the one i was talking about you know in the 900s early 900s from defense the Defense One Summit

2:18:59 And it's labeled as Lumpkin, I have no idea who that is in this context. But he's going to tell us about the Global Engagement Center so this is more than a year and half ago before this kind of went under the radar and then popped up with someone asking questions about it. We've seen almost a 400% increase in funding towards this effort over the past two years. So we've seen fourfold increase from who? From the US government that were putting against the counter messaging problem set and I think that is, what we're now getting the resources to actually effectively operate in this space

2:19:41 We're using those resources to bring in talent from the private sector. We're using it to bring in cutting-edge technology that lets us look at data the way we need to look at data. We are building the tools, software and people and we are building a network of partners Because we do have a networked approach because we recognize that while we may have a really, really good message. We're not always the most credible messenger to deliver it. Right So and I think that's the key is in these... In order to do this effectively and part of this building a network is actually train our partners and help them understand the most effective ways to message

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Facebook Ad Targeting and the 1974 Privacy Act

A clip from a "Defense One" summit explains how the government uses Facebook ads to target specific demographics globally for "pennies a click." The speaker discusses the challenges posed by the 1974 Privacy Act when dealing with big data and the difficulty of discerning the citizenship of internet users based on IP addresses.

facebook ads· big data· privacy act· ip addresses· targeting

2:20:26 So, uh... they're building a propaganda team. Did you find it? Did you find any of the grants? No, I'm looking. I've seen all kinds of different things that are kind of interesting like there's a FY fiscal year 2018 global media makers which is a grant for something Yeah i have a feeling that it may be broken up into multiple little parts we're going to need some help on this Global competencies and I put a link in the show notes under face bag analytic I think That's not where I put it no I'll find out where it's a lot. This is like a nightmare this well here so much money They're throwing away, but wait there's more as we work the data piece And it gives us the ability instead of just throwing a message out and hope at lands We can actually call that kind of meat cleaver messaging is you throw it out there? and and hopefully hits the right audience as if we have the ability

2:21:24 ability, and I'll use an example of something we've started this year. And this is using Facebook ads. I can go within Facebook. I can go grab an audience. I will give a hypothetical. I can pick country X. I need age group 13 to 34. I need people who have liked We know whether it's Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi or any other set You can like Alba Bob back daddy on face bag. What's his page? I want to like his page audience, but you can't I can give a hypothetical I can pick country X I need age group 13 to 34 I need people who've liked and

2:22:10 We know whether it's Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi or any other set. and I can shoot and hit them directly with messages. For in some places in the world, it's literally pennies a click to do so you add the ability to actually manage and identify and see your audience based on their social media preferences that said we do have challenges on working with big data some of our challenges are you know, the 1974 Privacy Act for example was created to make sure that we were not influencing collecting data on US citizens. Well with IPS addresses and by definition... You remember this? This is the guy who talked about IPS addresses! This is that Jamoke

2:23:01 Yeah, I remember this. And that's how long ago this is! This has been going on probably just constantly going on... But listen they've been doing this with their little cyber force of propaganda propagandists on Facebag you know Now that we have no more Smith-Muntt acts which would make all of this illegal. They've gone rampant Yeah, for example was created listen what they're you rogue and listen what they're using they using exactly What face bag is now in court? We should be using to promote the show You know to make sure that we were not influencing collecting data on US citizens well with IPS addresses and by definition the World Wide Web is

2:23:41 worldwide, there is no passport that goes with it that says this is an American citizen on the other end or… and then doesn't matter if its a Tunisian in the United States, a Tunisian citizen of the United States or an American citizen in Tunisia. I don't have the ability to discern that So, so therefore I have trouble working big data and to grab that personally identifiable information and slice it and dice it. And this is why the like the Facebook ads that I mentioned are a kind of fundamental change for us John for very low investment to be highly targeted towards the enemy. Oh! I love this. And to think we had this clip that long ago

CHAPTER 37 / 44 Discussion

Mark Zuckerberg's Surveillance Organization Slip

During his congressional testimony, Mark Zuckerberg appears to refer to Facebook as a "surveillance organization" before quickly correcting himself. The hosts highlight this "slip of the tongue" as a moment of honesty regarding the company's true nature.

mark zuckerberg· congress· surveillance· privacy· testimony

2:24:27 And here it is, completely relevant and I found... well i didn't find of course not we have just the best producers. We have the missing Zuckey clip listen closely! Do you believe you're more responsible with millions Americans personal data than the federal government would be? Yes but senator Your point about surveillance, I think that there's a very important distinction to draw here. Which is that when organizations do surveillance people don't have control over that but on Facebook everything you share there you have control over You can say I don't want this information to be there and you have full access to understand every piece of information that Facebook might know about you and you can get rid of all it

2:25:14 And I don't know of any other surveillance organization in the world that operates that way. Which is why I think that comparison just isn't really apt here. I don't know if any other... I mean, any... I think you should probably play that last bit again so people can hear it as he clearly says, I don't know if any other surveillance organization I mean, uh... And you can get rid of all of it. And I don't know if any other surveillance organization in the world that operates that way which is why- Busted. Busted? Got a nice note from one of our producers who I'm leaving anonymous. It says along with all the other random info and I'm working on a master's in AI machine learning please do not hate me! The industry pay is $350k a year starters. Okay we like A.I

CHAPTER 38 / 44 Discussion

AI Classifiers and Multi-Dimensional Linear Regression

A producer with a master's in AI explains that the systems used by Facebook and Twitter to identify hate speech are "classifiers" based on multi-dimensional linear regression. The AI is fed positive and negative examples to output a binary classification. The hosts simplify the concept as "trying a bunch of stuff" to see what sticks.

artificial intelligence· machine learning· hate speech· linear regression· classifiers

2:26:06 What Facebook, Twitter etc are using to identify hate speech. I mean this we've been talking about this here we go This is someone who's doing a master's in the field no slouch What they're using to identify hate speech along with everything else that you've identified, that you are interested in is called a classifier. The quote researchers feeded positive example tweets Facebook posts etc of hate speech or of unallowed or unlawful content along with negative examples and the AI which is nothing more than a multi-dimensional linear regression outputs a binary

2:26:45 Quote, yep hate speech or quote Democrat for each feature. You're trying to classify someone else Concretely you like certain things on face back it spits out a probability that you're a cat lover above a certain threshold It's a positive so at the term of course the key term is nothing more than multi-dimensional linear regression Do you know what that means because it seems like he's poopooing it Well the way he puts it yeah, so I have no idea what multi-dimensional to me is to me It sounds just like piping a whole bunch of grips together It's like grep Democrat grep pipe grep cat. How many people that grep cat? I liked that grep cat saxophone I Also liked meat cleaver messaging meet Cleaver miss I've never heard never heard that term

2:27:48 What does it mean? Well, that's when you just throw in You know like on TV just throw it out and you know pray pray for the best. Oh Yeah mass market yeah mass marketing exactly It's only way I can get that many people yes tried-and-true That's how you sell soap everybody has to buy soap eventually The only thing I've got I got this Facebook clip which is recorded They're gonna require an ID now that did I by the way, I don't believe a word of this I think we talked about this didn't we Yeah, we did. Let me hear the question. Back in this country Facebook has announced that people who run issue ads on the site will now have to confirm their identity and location CEO Mark Zuckerberg also endorsed legislation to make social media identify those who place ads for political candidates Zuckerberg is set to testify before Congress next week about recent disclosures of massive privacy breaches

2:28:52 Okay, from the troll room. Multidimensional linear regression equals just trying a bunch of stuff. Could be true! That would be right that sounds right to me too I was gonna try a bunch of stuff and then grep it out oh man Another anonymous note, this is... well I'll just read it to you. Please keep me anonymous to protect my brother's identity. I was on the phone with my brother this morning and he was telling me that there will be a quote white supremacist rally in his town of Noonan Georgia next weekend and that the Valdosta Georgia chapter of Antifa we haven't heard from them awhile

CHAPTER 39 / 44 Discussion

Antifa and White Supremacist Rally in Noonan Georgia

A listener report warns of a potential confrontation between a white supremacist group and Antifa in Noonan, Georgia. Local law enforcement from two dozen agencies is reportedly preparing for the event, with concerns that it could mirror the violence seen in Charlottesville.

antifa· noonan· georgia· white supremacist· protest· law enforcement

2:29:40 is planning to show up to protest the event. He is worried that the event will turn the town into the next Charlottesville, and based on the anticipated police presence of nearly two dozen agencies it looks like law enforcement thinks so too." And there's a couple articles there about if you just do a bing-it on Noonan...that's with N's as in November...Noonan Georgia Rally should turn out more. So I think that's happening was it Thursday? No, next weekend. So I guess in a week from now? No, it's show day! It's about time though that Antifa did something because you know and quite frankly I think the news cycle is primed for it because there's only so much storming we can do. It could be two dozen agencies prepared for neo-nazi rally. Oh please okay... That's how they frame it right away yeah

2:30:40 Now have you been looking at any of this Comey stuff? I'm just saying that's the local TV station. Oh, okay well so could be some poop happening We'll see if they're funded or not They have a picture of a guy... it is great picture Let me see if it shows up and I blow it up No, of course not Google has this tendency to tease pictures that aren't really in the article I should go back to Bing. I don't have Bing on this one, anyway go on i'm sorry well I was gonna transition into Comey for a moment yeah no I have been following him a little bit you know he's got a book is that book tour there's a book he just came with the books so that you're going to see a lot of hear about Comey a lot but it's like uh it's like his apology tour

CHAPTER 40 / 44 Discussion

James Comey's Book Tour and FBI Neutrality

James Comey begins a media tour for his book *A Higher Loyalty*. Clips from an interview with George Stephanopoulos show Comey admitting that his actions during the 2016 election were influenced by the assumption that Hillary Clinton would win. The hosts criticize Comey's lack of credibility and his "bitchy" comments about President Trump's appearance.

james comey· a higher loyalty· george stephanopoulos· hillary clinton· fbi

2:31:31 Well, I have a couple of clips. The first one is from Chris Wallace on Fox News and...I mean is this book even out yet? Because it seems like they're...it better be coming out soon because all I can see is a lot of people... With Amazon nowadays people like to do the pre-book thing that before the reviews come out. Yeah, the preorder. You preorder it and yeah Okay, well here he is talking about it.

2:32:11 of the president by James Comey, but in terms of hard facts you know people are talking about bombshells there are none. Basically everything that he said in terms of the facts and what the president did uh... he already has testified before a congressional committee and in fact at one point he says while he thinks the presidents behavior may have been unethical it may not have been illegal. The other thing that surprises me frankly is how bitchy the book as. Comey goes out of his way to say the president isn't as tall as he thought he was, he checked out the size of this hands the first time they shook hands that he noticed at the president seem to have a little white half moons under his eyes maybe he had sun tanning... Man, Comey should talk! He's got

2:32:55 bags under his eyes. Goggles that he wore... He's got Samsonites! You know, I think one could argue that by getting into the kind of political food fight that James Comey... At least you didn't say catfight not food fight he already said it was all like hissy fit stuff she used to catfight make it sound gay as funny or had sun tanning goggles that he wore uh you know I think one could argue that by getting into the kind of political food fight James Comey has done more damage to his own reputation than he has to President Trump's. What you get is Comey's opinions He doesn't like Donald Trump and he's offended by Donald Trump, and he thinks Donald Trump is a bad guy And yes, he does compare him to a mob boss but in terms of real damage people talk about bombshells

2:33:41 All of that is going to be like Fire and Fury, the Michael Wolff book. It'll be like a 4th July sparkler that burns bright for a week and then just peters out." Well we'll see about that but... That does sound kind of... He's talking about his hands? I mean what is he like total Dimench Beebot nutjob?! He sounds like a nut job! But I didn't expect that from him Comey yeah, you would have thought in me so stately and lawyerly And you think it would be no like an intellectual book now just sounds or I'm sure this is Fox News making a sound even well I don't know. I bet she had a ghostwriter who had the liven it up You want to sell copies are not here was that our friend there from National Enquirer Sharon? What's her name? I Wanted to write it out. I want her to write my book Liven it up baby Here's a comey on with Stephanopoulos

2:34:35 uh... showing his colors. But at some level wasn't the decision to reveal influenced by your assumption that Hillary Clinton was going to win and you're concerned that she wins this comes out several weeks later and then that's taken by her opponents as a sign she is illegitimate I also love how Stephanopoulos is saying that she would win and that she'd be an illegitimate president. It must have been, I don't remember consciously thinking about that but it must have been because i was operating in a world where Hillary Clinton was going to beat Donald Trump And so I'm sure that it was... How do you reconcile that with the FBI being a world that is completely neutral of everything? What world was he living in if he was FBI director, then isn't your world just it'll let the chips fall where they may. No! He says quite clearly I was operating in a world where Hillary Clinton was going to be in the next president gonna beat Donald Trump and right there he's condemning himself

2:35:34 I find this abhorrent. But it must have been because I was operating in a world where Hillary Clinton was going to beat Donald Trump and so i'm sure that that it was a factor like I said, I don't remember spelling it out but had there been that she's gonna be elected president and if I hide this from the American people she'll be illegitimate at the moment she is elected The moment this comes out If you knew that letter would elect Donald Trump You'd still send it? I would In fact That was a question asked by one of my best people who is a very thoughtful and quiet person, who didn't speak a lot. And that morning we were making that decision she asked should you consider what you are about to do may help elect Donald Trump president? I paused and then said,

2:36:20 Thank you for asking that question. That's a great question. That's not a great question! But the answer is, not for a moment because down that path lies the death of the FBI as an independent force in American life If I ever start considering whose political fortunes will be affected by a decision we're done And he just finished saying exactly that? I was living in a world where the political assumption was Hillary Clinton was going to win But if I ever start thinking that, we're done. He was thinking it! Is this just my interpretation? It could be a little too Dimench-A here... Well you could be a little too Dimension A yes Come on with ya breeze baby Um..I don't know. I have no idea This guy sounds like he's nuts He's a showboat, he's a grandstander The FBI director has no credibility He is the wrong man for that position Call me James call me

CHAPTER 41 / 44 Discussion

St. Louis Landfill Fire and Nuclear Waste Proximity

A report highlights an underground fire at the Bridgeton landfill in St. Louis that has been burning for five years. Residents are concerned the fire will reach illegally dumped nuclear waste from the 1970s. The EPA and landfill owners claim the site is managed, but the Missouri Attorney General has filed suit due to the potential environmental emergency.

st. louis· bridgeton landfill· nuclear waste· underground fire· epa

2:37:19 How about one more clip and I have a number of end-of-show clips for some reason we got See one mix and one two three like four complete song productions. Oh Yeah, and even two with the same song the same melody different song different topic blackbird by Paul McCartney Wow. Yeah, talk about your random number theory so you want to put the Blackbird ones off till the next show? No no no I'm not what I'm saying is since you know if you have one last clip then we can go and then I can play those. I got a couple of last clips but... We're good! Here's a clip let's just play this well there's actually a couple these are again this is a clip I dug up from the archives and it has never been a follow-up on it I'm gonna do the follow-up This is The Dump On Fire for five years

2:38:25 In another important story, we've been reporting on an unusual number of rare cancers near an old nuclear waste dump outside St. Louis Well tonight the folks who live nearby have a more immediate worry There is a fire burning underground Possibly within a thousand feet of the nuclear waste and Benita Nyers following this sick and we're dying. Hundreds of people jammed into a Bridgeton Union Hall last night demanding to know if nuclear waste sitting in their local landfill could lead to disaster We don't go outside, we don't open our windows You can't 100% guarantee that were okay The nuclear waste was illegally dumped into the landfill in the 1970s It was the byproduct of processing uranium for America's Nuclear weapons program

2:39:15 An underground fire has been slowly burning at the landfill for five years. Residents are worried the fire could ignite the nuclear material that's about a thousand feet away. We will look at subsurface temperatures... The Environmental Protection Agency and the landfill owner, Republic Services insist that is not true. Russ Naki is the company spokesman Are you guys 100% sure that the underground fire will never touch the waste? confident that the Bridgeton landfill is in a managed state. Missouri's Attorney General is not so confident he is suing Republic Services saying his experts tell him it's possible the underground burn could reach the nuclear material in three to six months Ed Smith from the nonprofit Missouri Coalition for the Environment says if the underground fire meets the nuclear material, he fears an environmental emergency It's not some wild speculation that if there's

2:40:10 Here's the thing, and I'm sure a suratomic rod will pipe up, pipe in, jump in pile on. Does it matter? Does it matter if the fire reaches the nuclear material? I don't even...I don't know! Well what they've done was they built a wall Yeah An underground wall between where they think the nuclear material is and the dumps as far as I can tell still burning Okay will that work I think the whole, I don't know why they can't put this. Why can't they put the fire out? Well these underground fires, there's coal fires around the world that have been burning for hundreds of years and they can't put them out. Like hundreds of years. They think there is one that may be 500 years burning. Wow and this is St Louis?

2:41:01 No, not in... no coal fires like in Greece and places. Yeah there's an old coal fire burning in St Louis I didn't mean that but it was funnier that way But this is a garbage dump fire in St Louis? Yeah Why why is that on fire It just caught fire? Spontaneous combustion. Nice! That happens a lot because people throw out all kinds of weird stuff and the next thing you know it catches on fire and then starts burning in a low oxygen environment, can burn and burn and smolder for like decades. Nice! Yeah They should turn into a tourist attraction. They should I'd go look at that. That would be cool. Well they had this thing going on in California where there's some area in California where the ground is red hot

2:41:54 And they have no idea why. Like you can't stand on it with your bare feet hot? Yeah, that hot! Wow... That place is a mess California? Yeah, just sell your home. Get out of there! I don't know what you're... You should move to Vegas. You're a hater. I am. You should move to Vegas. There ya go. You would be very funny from Vegas. John DeVore here in Las Vegas. Just flew in from Las Vegas and boy are my arms tired. And I'm trying to launch this meme over here so the Dutch especially the kids they love using English words

CHAPTER 42 / 44 Discussion

Relaunching the Term Blotto in the Netherlands

Curry describes his attempt to convince Dutch millennials that the 1930s slang term "blotto" is the new hip alternative to "lit." He recalls being forced to use the word in a script for the *Swamp Thing* TV series in the 1990s, which he felt ruined his performance.

blotto· lit· slang· netherlands· swamp thing

2:42:35 And now it's all hip-hop, everything on the radio. There are Dutch songs with English lyrics in it It is really very interesting to listen to But they're all using the term lit which was still pretty big in the States I guess but it's like yeah man that party was lit That girl was lit Oh man! Everything is so lit And I'm just hearing this over and over again. So there's a number of millennials, 20 year olds who I'm around while on this trip and I said hey you know just want you guys to know, but I'm from America you know lit is kind of out You know this is not the term we're using anymore do you wanna use whatever with the hip turn everybody's used like yeah yes it's blotto

2:43:22 And they're buying it. It's like, blotto bro. Yes! They're buying it. Like yeah man that's a good term. It's from the 30s but it's a good term I think we can relaunch. I think it could be worldwide. Blotto. Yeah hashtag blotto. Yeah blotto. But they're all like, ah man... What is your definition of blotto? What do you think it means? Extremely drunk Yes, yeah exactly what it means. So does the original lit you know that was also I'm that's right It was lit there with something in the 50s right so it's the same term except blotto is so lame It's just but I want to convince everybody it's cool and the reason and the reason why I hate it Is because it is cool well The reason why why to me? It's actually funny when I did my episode of swamp thing In the script there was this line where me Nathan the rock God was supposed to say oh

2:44:11 Oh man, I don't know what happened. I was totally blotto." Like this is the 90s you know? Rock guys don't say they were blotto They say they were wasted hammered no No it was written this way so you have to just stick to the script Curry shut up And whenever you I mean besides me of course my acting was stellar in this but that really yeah, we think everyone There were some shows who've gone and back and looked at your act really ruined by kindly say nothing It really ruined my performance okay today. I'm gonna tweet my rocket car of death video That'll make up for the before the blotto swamp thing

CHAPTER 43 / 44 Discussion

Falkland Islands Oil Exploration and Population Stats

An archive report discusses the discovery of a billion-barrel oil basin near the Falkland Islands. The hosts discuss the geopolitical tension with Argentina over the resource and look up the island's population, which is just under 3,000 people, mostly British citizens.

falkland islands· oil· rockhopper· argentina· population

2:44:54 Blotto. Hashtag blotto, baby! Hashtag blotto. All right you got one more clip? Stone used to mean drunk too yeah that's right that's right all right tell me what happened on this story is the Falklands there's another old clip Falklands Exploration companies drilling for oil off the Falklands have come up with extremely encouraging results. One well delivered a column of oil of more than 480 meters! The CEO of Rockhopper, one of the exploration firms thinks the Falklands are sitting on a billion barrel basin Even the oil drilling itself has become an important element of the island's economy. But Argentina could use the oil revenue to pay down its huge sovereign debt. The British government has dismissed Argentina's claims as speculation

2:45:43 The UN recommendation is not legally binding. Falkland Islanders themselves overwhelmingly want to remain British any change in sovereignty would undoubtedly involve a lengthy diplomatic row. And that's it for you from your business desk and now Brian, you have some news from your favorite sport cricket. Okay did you remember that the Falklands have a shit ton of oil? Well, I knew there was a reason the British were fought over it. And then sure they didn't care about the actual ground itself or the people of eyes anyone on the islands? They have a bunch of people there. Okay. What's a bunch like more than 24? No. Yeah, what's a bunch? Uh huh. A couple thousand I think okay. Yeah no yeah no

2:46:38 Yes, yes I'm quite sure. I was aware of that but this is a recent clip or an archive clip? This is an archive clip and I haven't heard anything about it since Well, it's because... Yeah. Look at Balklands population. I mean that...I think it comes down to just your barrel per...your price per barrel of oil is determined not just by what it takes to get out the ground but also what kind of military has to move you know the US resource extraction team ie our Department of Defense. About 3,000 That's a bunch? Yeah, that's a bunch to me. So I think that's how it's priced and like the falcons too expensive right now It's cheaper to do it in the sand for some reason And maybe even cheaper to do it here in the States But yeah They got they gotta factor all of that in actually let me give you this is the population the faucus and it's actually just under 3,000 I'll bet and I say that because it said 29 something then I figure well It's probably 3000 by now but I'm gonna give you the population in 2016 was twenty nine twelve mm-hmm

2:47:42 The population in 2617 was 2919. Ooh, we had some people doing the nasty the year before... that's just my guess Yeah I'm kind of look at the sex ratio there seems to be a lot of men dudes bunch of dudes on an island it's all oil workers come on that's the only people who live there alright everybody they're British and their staying that way yeah This was your No Agenda show for April 15th, pretty much tax day. Please remember us for Thursday's program at Dvorak dot org slash NA I'll be back in the Cluedio looking forward to that Miss my keeper and I'm Blotto baby coming to you from the Garden of Amsterdam Laudan and Gitmo Nation lowlands in Netherlands In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Biloxi

CHAPTER 44 / 44 Discussion

Outro and Parody Song Medley

The show concludes with a series of parody songs covering Marsha Blackburn's questioning of Mark Zuckerberg, the Stormy Daniels scandal, and the Robert Mueller investigation. The hosts sign off, reminding listeners of the next show on Thursday.

marsha blackburn· mark zuckerberg· stormy daniels· robert mueller· parody songs

2:48:41 Actually, close to Biloxi where they're having the Black Spring Break which is quite an event and that's what they call it. And it's copyrighted I'm John C. Dvorak Until Thursday as always we say adios mofos! I don't know if you can call me a cab today. Taxi! Okay this is blackburn

2:49:22 Senator Blackburn. So I've got to ask you, I think what we're getting to here is who owns the virtual you? Congresswoman, I believe that everyone owns their own. And where does privacy rank as a corporate value? Congresswoman... I can't let you filibuster right now. Will you commit to pass Privacy legislation, will you commit to doing that? Congresswoman I'm not directly familiar with the details. I can't let you filibuster right now. Let's get familiar. Congresswoman giving people control of their information... The reality is if you have a photo just think about this in your day-to-day life No! I can't let you filibuster right now. Let me tell ya something right now Dominion Silk is not terrorism. I'm sorry thats unacceptable Blackburn

2:50:12 Blackburn singing in the dead of night Grimlock Zuckerberg until he fries Testifies Everyone's been waiting for this moment to arrive Zucker-Bird Frye Zuckerbird Frye Maybe it's time to hang him high Telling him the monster is in the dead of night Take out all the rotions that you find All your life You've been waiting for this chance to blow it all sky high Tomahawk missiles in the dead of night Even if the reason is a lie A sod must die It's time we blew it up To send a message to this guy

2:51:32 Riders on the stormy. Riders on the stormy. They say that Trump held off when he saw her on the porny. Oh, and I's a bu- Riders on the stormy! There's a lawyer of the road

2:52:38 They say he took out a bank loan, He said he had to pay To make it go away But on the phone he lies Now they're locking him inside Yeah! Mueller get your man, get your man with a small hand. Make him understand the Russia case depends that you dead Mueller get your man

2:54:39 Some velvet morning when I'm straight. I'm gonna open up the gate and maybe tell climate change, and how the seas will rise And how we're gonna die Some fell in mourning when I... I bitch-fucked him on this toxic AMO. Very sad, indemnationy

2:55:55 The best podcast in the universe! Yes. MoFoDvorak.org slash N-A This is cool, Elon.