Episode 1000 · Saturday, 20 January 2018

Hijab Hoax

A false missile alert in Hawaii exposes software flaws while the arrest of a CIA mole reveals a silent intelligence war between Washington and Beijing.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1000

About this episode

The Hawaii Emergency Management Agency faces scrutiny after a false missile alert revealed critical software vulnerabilities in the Everbridge interface. While officials blamed a single employee, the Integrated Public Alert and Warning System lacks a basic cancellation template, and the underlying code was developed by a third-party team in China. This systemic failure coincides with the arrest of former CIA officer Jerry Chun-Shing Lee, who allegedly compromised the identities of dozens of American assets in Beijing.

Apple CEO Tim Cook announced a $38 billion tax repatriation payment following Republican reforms, while Google faces a whistleblower report detailing a hostile internal culture for conservative employees. In the media, Rear Admiral Ronny Jackson confirmed President Donald Trump scored 30/30 on a Montreal Cognitive Assessment, despite CNN's Sanjay Gupta claiming a high calcium score indicates heart disease. Meanwhile, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is criticized for his rapid condemnation of a Toronto hijab-cutting incident that police later determined was a complete hoax.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak celebrate the 1,000th episode of the No Agenda show by acknowledging a jar of 1,000 Canadian pennies sent via DHL. The hosts perform a formal knighting ceremony for Sir Andy Chan and Sir Daniel Eber while reflecting on the show's decade-long value-for-value model. A listener from Brooklyn seeks a therapist who is not stuck in Dimension B, and the Peerage Committee settles a dispute over the title Dame Love and Light.


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CHAPTER 01 / 33 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 1000 Milestone, Value-for-Value Model

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak celebrate the 1,000th episode of the No Agenda show, broadcasting from Austin, Texas and Northern Silicon Valley. They contrast their listener-supported "value-for-value" model with traditional advertiser-sponsored media. Dvorak highlights a successful Bitcoin price prediction of $11,550 made in a previous episode.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· episode 1000· value-for-value· podcasting

00:00 It's got porn! Holding on for dear life and celebrating 1,000 episodes and broadcasting live from downtown Austin-Tejas Capitol the Drone Star Stadium in the Cluedio. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where i'm not ready to do this show but i'll do it anyway I'm John C. DuBois It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Of course you're ready You were born ready

00:36 Now, I was born ready but not ready anymore. Why? Because of the sheer number... By the way being born ready doesn't mean you're ready now! That's true Well congratulations John Congratulations to you Mr Adam Curry Mr Adam Curry and all ships at sea and boots on the ground Congratulations to everybody who helped do this show so we got to the point where we are at Show 1000 That's right And when they hear that horn When you hear that horn When you hear the horn, you know we're happy. The revelers are having the time of their life! You know we're happy when you hear the horn That's right It was great this morning going through the backlog of email So many people sending stuff and sending messages of congratulations and thanks And every message I sent was just so you know thank you Because this wouldn't be here without producers in many different ways

01:33 Oh yeah, very much unlike a TV show or radio show that's sponsored by advertisers. Sponsored by advertisers and that has you know the whole system is lame because they gotta have big staff so they have to charge high advertising rates to make it all work and we don't have any of that now of course we don't get tons of money in like the commercial guys do but were living were getting by Was it making a wish I just brought to mind the song make you And I don't want to toot my own horn, but I'm gonna do it. Oh, but you'll do it anyway That's right Love Manning on this program Not more than a few days ago. I said be careful Bitcoin is going to eleven thousand five hundred and fifty-five

02:28 Now not only did I nail that exactly but it even went a tad lower and bounced back. Wait, wait if you didn't nail it has to go through the price you predicted when you didn't nail it exactly because it kept going No It actually stopped at $11,550 for good hour or two so I call that level and So you know You could say that we're saving you money with this show We are, well we are saving people money. There's no doubt about that. Without the Bitcoin gag. It's not a gag!

03:07 I'm sorry. I use the word gag and and you know what? I'll tell you when I think it's gonna go up if it's ever going Okay, that sounds good If it's ever going to go up you'll hear right here on this show watch that jingle jangle noise It's your Bitcoin The Jeff Smith sent a little uh oh That's high-end right he sent me so many cool Jingles to celebrate the 1000 yeah Yeah Let me play another one for you hold on This has got to be one of my favorites Wow Jeff when he's not saving children in Africa

03:54 He's doing jingles for the No Agenda show. That is, that is... He's a standard of excellence for all the other jingle makers out there I would say so yes I would say so Short slick to-the-point Yes And jingly Very jingly Great googly moogly Well there's a lot to talk about today besides the fact that we're celebrating 1,000 episodes no small feat What what is it like to talk about to you? Well, there's a few things. Did you get my clips? I did get your clips. Okay... I have some stuff regarding the giant voice system that iPause in Hawaii. Attention everybody! You're all gonna die! The bombs are coming! That one? That one yeah so i was little irritated by by the lack of information

CHAPTER 02 / 33 Discussion

Hawaii Missile Alert, IPAWS System Vulnerabilities, Everbridge Software

An investigation into the false missile alert in Hawaii reveals that the Integrated Public Alert and Warning System (IPAWS) lacks a simple "cancel" template in its Everbridge software interface. Despite claims of a "wrong button" press, protocols suggest a more complex failure or potential security breach. The software used by the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency was developed by a team in China, raising questions about system integrity.

hawaii· ipaws· everbridge· fema· missile alert

04:50 You know how this giant voice system well forget the giant I pause is what we're talking about the integrated public alert warning system, which is a FEMA based system and Since it went wrong and there was mention of templates And you know that let's I dove into this. Yes Did you find out as you get it fine? That somebody had access to the dashboard Well III know a lot more about the system they have and what potentially may have gone wrong. And have a lot of as opposed to pushing the wrong button Which is just total horseshit, and I'll tell you like some Twitter account verified Twitter account called a civil defense Hawaii. I don't know if it's official or not But hey It's verified so it must be real They were the ones that were tweeting out this picture of a web page with a couple of links saying oh look how easy it was To click the wrong link and at this point I'd been doing

05:50 a day and half of research on this stuff. It's really quite interesting to learn how it all works." And I said, no that's not what they're using. They use the Everbridge system which is in collaboration with Federal Signal which is their supplier... You know you got the wrong voice for this! That should be like that guy on Trekker's The Movie, the kid who talks about the patch sets off a quarter-of an inch. Ah, I don't think I've seen that. Yeah good Okay, go on. What should I do? Should it be a more condescending voice what should i do no It should be that nerdy you know they get the kid nitpicker all right well the kid the young and this is not nitpicking This was a very dangerous situation with people

06:33 Hey, come on. We don't know the extent of what happened. I'm sure a lot- By the way they finally showed some films? Yeah On CBS Holy crap! People were freaking out right? They got people running for their lives it was ridiculous Here's what i couldn't find Did the actual giant voice system go off as well I don't know that. I could not find a single video where i heard the alert system go off but it may have they claim it did, I don't think you needed to go off with everyone their iPhones and Android phones say but they showed this this video from a chopper something of all these people running around yeah well let me um let me give you little background on iPod which is really a fairly new system its

07:20 Fairly new system that is called iPause because it integrates not just the wireless alert system, WEA. It activates EAS which would be your giant voice systems. It's completely integrated what's interesting about it is that all the cell phone networks and device manufacturers they've all participated in this project and FEMA runs And the way it works is you get certified, you get trained. You have to take an approved system There are 150 approved vendors of an IPAWS system Which sounds like a money maker Of which FEMA has only presented three To all municipalities states etc because I watched all the webinars and videos Well there's lots of systems but we've chosen these three vendors for you Would probably want to select one of these guys

08:18 And when you have that system, when you've been trained, when you've been certified, then you can tap into the system, send your alert and it goes out. There's no pre-approval necessary just as there is no approval necessary for sending out a retraction message. We start with this new image It's the so called button that was accidentally pressed. Button! Button! Button! But a line on computer screen The workers were supposed to click this one in the yellow drill paycom CDW state only instead

08:55 They pressed that one. Paycom, CDW state only. So he's showing the bull crap interface but here comes a little ditty from the reporter in the field... Not a drill! The real alert two days later the governor is still on damage control and seeking forgiveness our Joe Beth DeVeres here with tonight's top story Thank you, Keahi. The governor said authorities here in Hawaii were waiting for permission Saturday morning from the Federal Emergency Management Agency before issuing the correction. Hey! Hold on. 38 minutes went by and it turns out they didn't need that permission after all. It's one of the many mistakes now under investigation. Yes? You had a question?

09:35 Yeah, if you're gonna ring that buzzer. Which means somebody made a huge blunder I think you should stop and tell us what the blunder was because i didn't catch it All right well I set it up that way The blunder is There is no approval. I've also read through all the protocols how you're supposed to do this, how you are supposed to structure a message which does not include the words in all caps This is NOT A DRILL! Nowhere has that suggested In fact The only words that are recommended is THIS IS NOT A TEST and THE THIS IS NOT A DRILL is very odd in the context of... ...the message that was sent out

10:13 Because the way this is, and so let me just go back for a second. So I finally caught a piece of video with Miyagi the guy from Hawaii Emergency Management Agency saying that they didn't have what...I think we talked about in the last show it didn't have the right template We didn't have a template to cancel it because the system they're using Is called Everbridge And The reason why Everbridge was chosen is because Federal Signal does everything for Hawaii. They have the contract, I've got all the contracts in the show notes... they do all emergency warning systems and they upgraded to add the IPAWS. They don't have that capability and

10:54 An article as well where Federal Signal partners with Everbridge to provide critical communication. So they use the Everbridge system, which is a complete templating system But you can actually edit the templates on the fly so you just like from a drop-down it populates all the fields The actual message was quite longer Quite a bit longer than Then what people got on their phone, it actually did instruct people what to do and to go inside. It didn't say shelter in place or...it had a much...and that's actually when we went out over the voice system which is automatically transcribed

11:33 But if you want to cancel the message, you can't... You actually can try and cancel the sending of it. It hasn't sent everybody but to say hey all is clear. You don't need permission from Pacific Command. You don't need permission from FEMA There's nothing in the protocols that says you can just send out a message and say oops sorry so something went really wrong there. How about this? Well no, no don't do that because you'll have more fun if you listen to the whole thing So here's a little bit about the templating system. One thing that we have to work on more is the cancellation notice in this event Our focus now, of course, is not to have any more false alarms going out and by doing this we're working on procedures that have already been implemented The first of all, the governor has directed that we hold off anymore tests until we get this squared away

12:24 What has already been put in place is a two-person rule that during the drill there will always be two people there before the button is pushed. Now what I just wonder why he mentioned this because this was not a drill we know it was not a drill they put in the language... Can I ask you a question before you keep going on which with this and I think its already too long uh, cause it's not interesting? Is you've never been to Hawaii have you? Several times Okay, so fuck you. Here is what I found when the webinar was discussing the

13:00 capabilities and the possibilities of something that went, that would go wrong. Okay so Bruce let me let me go ahead and ask you these questions then we'll open it up to the rest of folks Let's see... Is there a two-step transmit or send process to make sure people don't accidentally send alerts? I think its kind like the idiot proof button Are You Sure You Want To Send This Does this product include that? Yes We Do Yeah, we do that. Yeah, we do that before all the messages and they have quite an extensive idiot proof system so there's no way this could have been a A question a matter of pressing the wrong button now I'm going to conclude here if you let me take a little more of your precious time That this could have been a hack

13:50 The reason they couldn't, they might not have been able to regain control of the systems to send out a cancellation message because it's a lie. It's a lie that you can set out a cancelation and need some kind of permission And so I went looking To who created this system Everbridge? Everbridge didn't create the system themselves They bought the system from a company called Gomez Inc And when you look at, and a lot of the employees from Gomez Inc. now work in senior positions at Everbridge When you look at Gomez Inc., this company was bought and sold several times for up to $295 million dollars They're on Crunchbase actually is where I found a lot of information

14:34 But the cool thing about it is this software, the software used in Hawaii was created by Wang Cheng who's the Senior Vice President of Engineering at Everbridge. Was the CTO at Gomez and he created this and built this whole thing in China with a Chinese team So I'm just saying if there was any capability to put something in It definitely would have happened there but I do not for second believe that this was just a mistake Of the wrong button And we couldn't send out a cancellation or retraction notice Well, now that's kind of interesting. Let's... Chinese you mentioned let's play this clip Chinese CIA case officer arrested This was a story that ran There is something going on with the Chinese right now and this story just ran as an item A short item I think was on ABC

CHAPTER 03 / 33 Discussion

Jerry Chun-Shing Lee Arrest, Chinese Intelligence Breach

Former CIA case officer Jerry Chun-Shing Lee was arrested for illegally possessing classified government secrets, including names of covert assets. The arrest follows a major breach where over a dozen CIA informants in China were killed or imprisoned. This event is framed as part of an ongoing "silent war" between the United States and Chinese intelligence services.

jerry chun-shing lee· cia· china· fbi· espionage

15:25 And it was, it was just left there to lie. It was just here and here and then they went on to something else I found it fascinating. Next a former CIA case officer under arrest tonight and now charged with illegally possessing government secrets Jerry Chun-Shing Lee left the CIA in 2007 In 2012 an FBI search found he had notebooks that contained classified information including names and phone numbers of covert CIA assets It is unclear why they waited years to arrest him. The New York Times now reporting that the investigation comes against a backdrop of a major breach of CIA informants in China, more than a dozen informants killed or imprisoned in recent years." Oh yeah I think we're at some kind of silent war with China but it may be going a little deeper than you know just hey you guys are manipulating the currency

16:15 Well, there's this thing that was in the law item in that particular story that caught my attention which was it's unknown. Of course I think is dumb but he says unknow why took so long to arrest him because they had all the goods on their obviously trying to Trying to figure out who else he was contact with the rest of us. Of course you want to follow him for a bit But this story with the Chinese connection It makes it kind of like We can hack you, you can hack us. I mean... Well let me just say- I jokingly said it was the North Koreans when this story first came out of course Yeah but not it's not even that far of a stretch. I'm gonna look at China more because of the background or development but what we never heard is August, do you remember when Kim Jong Un first said, ah! I am going to send missile to Guam Right? Two days later

17:10 The same IPAWS system went off all over Guam, issuing a civil danger warning and no one even knows how it was sent. What? Yeah so the... Where'd you get that? By doing research! No I mean where did you get that specifically not how Oh from the Guardian. Guam radio station sparked terror accidentally broadcasting nuclear missile warning just days after North Korea threatened to attack island We never heard that. No, then I just looked into you know some basic stories and we had the zombie attack imminent that was a hack of the system remember that? The fake zombie attack? Yeah so this software has really only been in place for about

CHAPTER 04 / 33 Discussion

Global Emergency Alert Systems, Japan Fugu Scare

The "Giant Voice" emergency systems in Japan were recently used to warn citizens about a contaminated batch of fugu blowfish liver. Discussion centers on the risks of centralized mass control systems and the tendency of government agencies to hide system hacks to maintain public confidence.

japan· fugu· emergency alerts· giant voice· cybersecurity

18:04 I mean fully... Let's get rid of this stuff. It's really, and you saw the picture of the guys there at the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency with passwords stuck to their monitors? I'm sure you saw that Yeah i think that's a hoax it could be but still all you need to do is to get into one system You know and then you can pretty much Broadcast whatever you want in fact. I think the whole idea of these giant voice systems is very precarious just We all know we all heard about Japan You know sending out an alert, but they're using the system now in Japan for all kinds of things And I won't say that this was not a bet that this wasn't a bad reason they had a fugu blowfish scare and

18:50 that apparently, you know that's the... You know more than I do about that. Where you take something from the liver or just take it? No, Fugu is a blowfish is the big puffer fish and if the flesh of the fish is quite delicious but if there's even one drop its one of their organs anything but flesh pretty much will kill you so they found to contaminate neurotoxin they found a contaminated batch Blowfish meat that had possibly been you know touched the liver or something like that and they set off the giant voice system for That well, they're very concerned. They don't like killing each other with right but you know Look at what happened when the system went off this is mass control of people

19:36 You know, this is a system that can't just be left to a bunch of yahoos and jamoaks in Hawaii who are just selecting templates pressing buttons or whatever. Well the giant voice system which we've talked about on the show five years ago The old-fashioned ones the old ones from the olden days it had the big speaker at the top of a tower Yeah This is not new No, but this integrated system now gives a lot of different agencies access to it through and the whole idea was we're using open protocols and which is great. But they certainly have not sure short up the security for it an I don't think a lot of just the processes in general are right because pretty much everybody within an agency can access it and consent you know they can use it for weather alerts that means if all kinds of things

20:26 I think we need to be careful about this. Well, I'm reminded of the Amber Alert signs they put all over the California freeways there... We have two or three right around here and they stopped that mean they... There's one instance where they didn't even use it for an Amber Alert because they thought it would screw up the traffic but most of time is just how long is gonna take you get to the bridge? How long does it take you to get to that airport? That's the same as the Amber Alert system that's doing that. Same system yeah Where's Amber? Poor Amber. I think we need some... and oh, by the way the Everbridge system touts in their marketing materials they're incredible auditing and logging system that everything that is done in the system is logged and tracked for post-mortem analysis. I wouldn't mind seeing that! I'd like to know what happened

21:22 You're not gonna see it. No, and the fact that there's so much untruth being told I think something else happened. I can seriously consider some kind of hack There's no reason why they didn't just send out you know this oh we didn't have a template bullshit There's no reason why they didn't send that out other than that they couldn't well aren't they say they had a hack Why do these agencies always do this? This is like the banks who refuse to admit that they were ever, any money was ever stolen off of what the Swift banking system or any these other electronic things. And you ask them about it and they say well it's because it would make people lose confidence in the bank. So are you gonna lie instead? Yes yeah hello how long have you been doing this show with me? You know better than to ask these questions! Of course they lie anyway

CHAPTER 05 / 33 Discussion

Silicon Valley Real Estate, Tech Bus Attacks

Google and Apple employees face local hostility in San Francisco and Silicon Valley due to rising real estate prices and gentrification. Recent incidents involve unidentified individuals shattering windows on high-tech charter buses traveling along Interstate 280. Google has reportedly shifted expansion plans toward San Jose to avoid local backlash in Hunters Point.

google· apple· san francisco· interstate 280· gentrification

22:15 So I just thought it was the most interesting thing is in the middle of doing this research when civil defense Hawaii He was challenging me on Twitter saying you're wrong. This is the interface and like no, it's not Well you You sure top them? You showed them Adam that Civil Defense of why operation and I know the reason why oh because they've got the little birdie and you don't. Oh yeah, no that's it. It has nothing to do with a grudge I thought I'd do some research what did you bring to the show today? I got a bunch of stuff. In fact i have some classic No Agenda style bullcrap from mainstream media as opposed to government agency which is all bull crap. I found this was interesting recently Tim Cook came on the air he came on scene

23:09 talking about what Apple's up to, they're gonna build a big building someplace. And they won't say where so now everyone is speculating doing real estate speculation this is what happened with I should back up a little bit Google was going to build their new facilities in Hunters Point San Francisco and everybody got the word got out through Uber drivers. Everybody started buying land and houses? Yeah So the property started going up and then, I think they would have gone ahead anyway except that then all of a sudden Google gets attacked by the locals for having too many buses. Running the real estate prices up and ruining San Francisco so Google says screw San Francisco we're gonna go someplace else so they decide on part of San Jose which is if you had invested in that you'd get rich overnight

24:03 So they're moving everything to San Jose for some reason. Richard, Bitcoin? That doesn't sound possible! Which brings me to it... Just kind of back off on this story I do want to play this clip Apple and Google buses attack This is what's going on around here Oh, so I had every clip loaded up except that one. Yeah, I know you did. Here it is. The CHP is looking for whoever shattered windows On five high-tech charter buses on Interstate 280 in the Redwood City area The pictures we're showing you here come to us from Mashable. The CHP says four of five buses were carrying Apple employees, the other was a Google employee bus. The CHP says the attacks happened yesterday on both the north and southbound directions at different times of day fortunately no one was hurt. These buses are unmarked so we don't anticipate that they were targeting one company because there

24:58 Apple and Google. However, it looks like they were targeting the charter buses. CHP says at this point they don't know whether it was a pellet gun rocks or something else that hit the buses Mashable says that Apple has routed its buses away from I-280 for the time being Isn't this story like three years old? No We've played stories like this similar to this Well not this particular one off of Highway 2 You've been on highway 280 you remember it Yeah sure Well, it's not a bad neighborhood. It goes through Hillsborough and Woodside Yeah, yes, Woodside very rich area So I'm not getting this story

CHAPTER 06 / 33 Discussion

Apple Tax Repatriation, Tim Cook ABC Interview

Apple announced a $38 billion tax payment to the U.S. government as part of a plan to repatriate overseas cash following Republican tax reforms. CEO Tim Cook discussed a $350 billion investment plan and the creation of 20,000 jobs during an interview with ABC's David Muir and Rebecca Jarvis. Media coverage is criticized for framing the use of Apple's own capital as a "windfall" or corporate giveaway.

apple· tim cook· tax reform· repatriation· donald trump

25:38 Anyway, so that but I'm just playing that just to indicate what kind of attitude people around here have about these rich tech companies because they're not sharing the wealth. Meanwhile Tim Cook who's trying he was gonna move somewhere they don't know where They decided to give run this story on ABC all the networks around the story But ABC i think is the worst-case scenario in terms of finding some negative aspect to the story So that even though they made it up so they could blast Trump. Let's listen to the Tim Cook David Muir teaser. Apple writing a check to the US taxpayer for 38 billion from cash sitting overseas. It's coming back and he promises investments in the U.S that will hit 350 billion over five years tonight where are the jobs coming? And we also ask, will there be a cheaper iPhone and what about those batteries that slowed down? Here is Rebecca Jarvis. I'm gonna ask you what is the government going to receive

26:47 as part of this plan in taxes from Apple. I heard $38 billion dollars! I did too In that report, I heard 38 billion dollars which would be about 15% of the 245 billion they have outstanding So they are going to... so there's gonna bring a buncha money back Their money The money overseas that Apple has is their money Right? Yes Yes, and yes. And so when they bring it back they're gonna have to pay taxes on that money to the tune of 38 billion? Yes That seems like a lot of money that you have just cough up don't you think well not compared to what they'd be paying overseas Well, I'm just saying this is not is not like a profit maker There's not a not a profit center let's put it that way It cost them thirty eight billion if anything its patriotic move at expense of Apple

27:40 Play the Tim Cook Rebecca Windfall clip. Tonight, the biggest company in the world announcing a $350 billion investment in the United States Apple saying it will create 20,000 new jobs and build a new corporate campus in an American city still unnamed. Apple CEO Tim Cook exclusively taking us inside the tech giants massive data center in Reno Nevada we're walking on the cloud right now lower corporate tax rate allowing Apple to write a check for 38 billion dollars to the US government. Without these policy changes would you be able to announce today the creation of 20,000 new jobs? No there are clearly let me be clear there are large parts of this that result with the tax reform and there's large parts of this that we would have done in any situation so it sounds like President Trump's tax bill has been a huge windfall for Apple

28:34 Yeah, I understand. Of course What is she talking about? President Trump, all she's doing this is a classic example to me of media manipulation of reality. Yes There is no windfall here it's Apple's money they're paying 38 billion dollars to the government and they're gonna spend 300 plus billion building some new buildings more new buildings how was this a windfall? For the uninitiated such as her I'm sure that she thinks whatever happened in the tax plan which I'm sure she did not read

29:12 It's going to be better for Apple. That's the only reason they do this because they're a big company Yeah, this is a this is a corporate giveaway Yes So it's a windfall by definition even though there's no windfall and she says it with a straight face I'm listening to that story while I'm listening to this other one which is let's see if I can find it this is what you were the tax cash What will Apple do with the tax? Yes, the KTVU story. Good catch. Professor Wilcox says it's too early to tell what the impact of the tax reform bill will be on the average person he says some companies like Apple might boost salaries and hire more people but other companies might just hold onto their cash or funnel it into higher dividends

29:55 Now, this is a simpler presentation. Now by the way if these guys were at all savvy about financial reporting they could bring up all kinds of companies that have already said oh when this stuff comes in... We're going to buy back shares Exactly and that is the number one thing that these guys and that's what I'll be throwing in their face Yeah because that is actually your problem But no, the way she does it. She says they're gonna hire more people or they're gonna maybe keep the money which would be the buybacks and then she says that you have to visually see this derisively says pay out more dividends

30:38 which puts money back into the economy, which is exactly what you want. Yeah for the shareholders yes exactly But the way she says it is that this is horrible that they're gonna make I think these companies have already been Keeping too much money not paying enough dividends The dividends are what they're supposed to do if your shareholder It seems to me without a doubt um...it's a part of the Ponzi scheme that we discussed A couple of shows ago where growth is so desperately needed, one way to show quote unquote growth is to buy your own shares back. That's that you know it can... The price could make you go high. Major complaint by a lot of people out there because it phonies up the numbers. Yeah exactly. Buy back your own shares.

31:29 There's the second part of this ABC clip with Tim Cook, which I've only kept it for your benefit because if you want to hear some horrible horrible horrible audio editing Yeah Of course even though when you look at it It looks they do the good video job is pretty good. But this may close your eyes You can hear the edits You don't even do in this case. You don't have to close your eyes President Trump's tax bill has been a huge windfall for Apple well we There are two parts of tax bill right there's a corporate piece and an individual pace I do believe the corporate side will will result in job creation and a faster growing economy Yeah, you got to do the pacing

32:17 I pay attention to that. You gotta do the pacing of the... The pacing's the most important part. Yeah, so sometimes I even put a little extra space in just to make it sound natural if i do an edit which I do a lot of but mainly... A beat? But yeah but mainly for just uh for brevity sake just to shorten stuff up on the show. When I'm cut- yeah I was thinking when I cut stuff down for brevity I just hack it up! I mean it's..I just don't think people pay that much attention Yeah, it's professional for me. It's just professional I just like to do it well no yeah I said I'd just like to do it if I had more time on my hands that way yes If I had more time I would have written you a shorter letter No doubt okay anyway so that so that to me was the classic example let we can't give Trump any credit because Well, we'd actually like to get rid of him and and it looks like the Lear group was out in force again Oh, yes And they created this

CHAPTER 07 / 33 Discussion

Madam Secretary TV Show, 25th Amendment Propaganda

The CBS drama "Madam Secretary" aired a storyline involving the invocation of the 25th Amendment to remove a fictional president from office. This is characterized as a "Lear job" by the Norman Lear Center to socialize the public to the idea of removing Donald Trump. The segment analyzes the legal accuracy of Section 3 and Section 4 of the Amendment as depicted on television.

madam secretary· 25th amendment· norman lear· propaganda· donald trump

33:19 Madam Secretary show. Yeah, which I've watched every season so far haven't watched this season series yet How well? I don't like the show Oh but coincidentally I caught a couple of clips where they're talking about the 25th amendment oh Okay, and this was in advance of Trump's Medical examination which they have a bunch of clips of that too. This was great yeah, okay I felt that this was a Lear job. I don't know how else to put it, you know the Norman Lear's operation? Well maybe we should just do a quick revisit... I would think so. Explain what these guys do and i'll get the clip

34:00 They are, it's like a kind of consulting group. They'd like to go from show to show to show through Hollywood. They're all Hollywood hacks and they like to get people to do stories about things that are in the news and important stories about warming and Trump's a maniac. And in this case, the way I saw it... Let me play the backup here. This is just a short one of the Lear Foundation bragging about how often and how much they've done this. So in the course of our work, this is two years 11 to 13 335 storylines that we worked on

34:45 Have been aired we've worked with 35 networks in the past four years 91 different television shows There you go. Just a little idea of how much they're really embedded into the mass media system so I believe they got ahold of the producers Of madam secretary, which is a very Democrat. Oh yeah The whole show was about a Democratic woman who became president briefly and And the Secretary of State. Well, she's the Secretary of State, Madam Secretary and there is another show on HBO with Julie Louis-Dreyfus which is a comedic version of that same show and it wins all the awards Which is more realistic too People using shithole language as an example So I believe they went into these producers and said hey you know what would be good

35:38 It's something that, you know the people... You see in the news there is a lot of discussion about the 25th Amendment and how we can get rid of Trump. We all want to get rid of Trump right? Oh yeah! Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course So we only get it but people are like confused about this they keep people you know you bring up 25th Amendment nobody knows what this means Why don't we do a story where the president in this show... So we can explain how it should work, yes. And so the guy will get kicked out of course he'll get back in because it turns out that he has a tumor but this will at least get it out of the way which is how it would happen to the public if it does happen which we can only hope cross fingers

36:22 When it happens to Trump, they won't be so freaked because we've at least softened them with some body punches. If we do this history will look at us as traitors History will judge us no matter what we do Tom Fine But there have to be other ways to constrain Dalton Not in the Constitution The Constitution only allows for the 25th Amendment or impeachment And that missile strike will happen in less than an hour so impeachment isn't gonna cut it tonight Okay, I think if we've all said our piece. We should vote okay Keep the tally simple voice vote yes to invoke section 4 and remove the president effective immediately No to reject it a question now she's Secretary of State in that

37:10 Yes. She can't, but only the vice president can call for that was he there in the room? No this was the cabinet level version it's the cabinet who did it well the cap yes but I believe I believe I beweave that only the vice president can initiate the process I could be wrong Well, it's very easy to determine because you're gonna...you can go to the Book of Knowledge right now and look up the 25th Amendment. I'm going do that while you talk about the next clip? Let me set up the next clip. So what was interesting about the last clip besides the little explanation of what we're dealing with Section 4 of the 25th Amendment getting the president kicked out was they way they handled the wordage between well there are only two things we can do impeach

37:58 or invoke the 25th Amendment and they said it as if they're the same thing. And they were of equal stature, in fact impeachment requires a trial which is what they said that you had to rush with the 25th Amendment requires an actual crime to be committed technically The 25th Amendment just so you think the guy's off his rocker Section 4 when the vice president And a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments of such other body as Congress, blah blah blah. It has to be the vice president." Fine. To be honest about it, the vice president may have been in there. I don't watch this show so we'll just assume that they're following their rules because they want to make this as realistic as possible so the public doesn't get freaked out when it actually happens.

38:52 Now, to make it so well let's see what would happen when they actually have to tell the guys you're gonna pull out a gun and shoot everyone. Is he going to become a dictator? How is it gonna go over? So lets actually tell the president that he has been booted out of office at least temporarily it turns out because the way they handle this You'll see cause this is the way could go down I'm thinking about keeping Bob on in defense What do you think He's a good man I have noticed. Takes orders, pretty much my new number one requirement post-court. Speaking of... Wait a minute you rang the bell? I couldn't hear it what did he say? He said... I'm glad you stopped it! He said..I could've clipped it better

39:39 This is a guy secretary defense secretary security defense and he says yeah i like to take orders that's my new book and this is his new standard of excellence or something again just to me it's like this is trump. Yeah, I got it. I got it. Dictator? Yes! Stalin?! I'm thinking of keeping Bob on at defense What do you think he's a good man? Izzy, I have noticed takes orders pretty much my new number one requirement Time for some fireworks What the hell where is everyone Lydia what is this oh

40:29 I have a feeling that the actor is actually trying to channel Trump. Because from the previous seasons I've watched, he was sure there was lots of stuff where he was trying to communicate something need be done or it's always a stressful situation in this show but this barking is new! I have not heard this so I think he's channeling him.

41:10 It's all this possessiveness where he says, get my generals. Get my... My, my, my, my! Oh yeah that's your Lear Foundation right there This is the Lear guys, no doubt about it. Where are my generals? My admirals? Get them the hell in here now There's not going to be an attack on Russian satellites Of course there is, call STRATCOM Call CNO Sir, the cabinet For God sake I'll do it myself They won't take your order The cabinet voted tonight to invoke section 4 of the 25th amendment There you go section four. What are you talking about? I'm sorry sir, but you have been removed from office Teresa Hearst is now the acting president no They do that call a bunker Gordon they want revenge Because they're afraid to stand up to Russia. I'll fight this not well Conrad You need help sweetheart. No You know me too well

42:12 You know this is all just politics back. I love you We all do it's a coup. It's a goddamn coup can't you see it's the damn appeasers the peaceniks holy crap John This is great so now Do they insinuate in the episode that he is mentally unstable? Is its because his wife is saying it first of all how is he allowed to say goddamn on network television well, you can say shithole and I said, I've only heard shithole. I'm not hurt shit You can't give me an example as anyone saying shithole on the network news is only on cable possibly yeah Yes So that was like what?

42:55 They had to get that so this is a show that, that is not one of the approved words you can just use. And I'll say that we actually refrain from saying that on this show at least I certainly have because...I've never said it on the show except in this context and I want to know why that was allowed because it had to be allowed on purpose by the censors of the network To finish producers have emailed me and said yeah that really offends me And this, but not just in the social justice sense of the word. This has been going on ever since the first day we did this show and I've been cognizant of it. Okay well i'll still make fun of it just like although you know Aloha Sackbar. Yeah but this is the point I'm trying to make here that this was purposely allowed yeah and knowing that the FCC

43:47 Might make a fuss about it, which may be a plan because if the FCC makes a fuss about it Which right should ratings exactly? It brings it back to brick you could bring it back and then you can have it bleeped out beep And get people to watch it now the other thing that's interesting I think the Lear foundation would have something to do with this of course they've may have done nothing to do with this but we're assuming they did is is they make this guy, this president a raving lunatic about hating Russia. He's a Russian hater. Hey you know boys if we make it so he hates Russia no one will suspect that we're doing kind of a satire on Trump or commentary on Trump because Trump doesn't hate Russia, he loves Russia! I mean that's the kind of logic that I'm assuming is at play here because why would you have Russia in the picture at all?

44:40 China would be more logical. In fact, China is the main Enemy throughout the series as I recall they don't know that with the China in the previous seasons Yeah, like I ride doesn't I don't doubt it Because typically before Trump came along there were the left who produced a lot of these shows Were big Russia lovers They never like to really condemn Russia because of the old days, you know when the Soviets were in business and they were in collusion. The American Communist Party specifically so this thing is really bad and it's a propaganda piece. Well let's listen to the end results. No! Why would they do that? Because they're Gordon? They want revenge because they're afraid to stand up to Russia?!

45:34 I'll fight this. You're not well, Conrad! You need help sweetheart No Lydia not you too...you're too smart and you know me to well You know that this is all just politics backstabbing- I love you We all do It's a coup it's a goddamn coup can't you see? It's the damn appeasers The peaceniks afraid of standing up for Russia They want to drive me out to avoid a fight But we can't back down we gotta be tough We can't let them get away with it Russia will be storming our shores Can't you see that?! I'll fight this. I'll fight it in Congress! You think i don't know how this works? Sir, a letter has been drafted to send to the Senate pro tem and the Speaker of the House once they receive it The American people will know that the cabinet has lost faith in your ability to govern There will be great pressure on congress to make it official by two-thirds vote which I'm confident they will

46:31 Because you've given the enemies in our party the ammo they need to finally get rid of me. You handed it to them on a damn platter! There's another option, Conrad... Invoke section 3 which is temporary and we won't send the letter to Congress All you have to do is submit to a full examination and treatment if appropriate And once its determined that your better you can be reinstated Agree We don't send a letter Otherwise, Congress votes on Section 4 tomorrow. Okay! Section 3... Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits a written declaration to them to the contrary such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice-President as acting president."

47:35 This is this what happened when Reagan got shot. That's right I'm reading, seeing it right here where he had to say I am all good And that's when Haig Alexander Haig comes up and says I am in charge Hey let me play! You have to go back for that one Reading from NPR The Federal Communications Commission guidelines make it crystal clear the guidelines define profanity as quote, language so grossly offensive to members of the public who actually hear it as to amount to a nuisance. According to NPR using goddammit for example is not legally profane according to the FCC but taking the Lord's name in vain although not all see it that way is more problematic for all mainstream media

48:22 Goddamn is more complicated, especially because of the juxtaposition here to the other bleeped words. Usually we don't bleep goddamn there's no legal reason to do so although we realize there are some in the audience who find this exceedingly offensive So what they typically do is send out a warning to stations alerting them to the potentially offensive language so stations can blip that locally for their local prevailing community standards So it's not illegal according to NPR. I haven't done any more research than that That's all the research you need and according to my understanding the kpix which i believe ran that show doesn't care They didn't believe because they're in california for me Anyway, so this thing runs we're gonna say for god's sake because that would have been funny. I could have said something But I was not saying anything so i'm thinking uh

CHAPTER 08 / 33 Discussion

Ronny Jackson Medical Briefing, Trump Cognitive Test

Rear Admiral Ronny Jackson provided a detailed medical briefing on President Donald Trump's health, confirming the President scored 30/30 on the Montreal Cognitive Assessment. Jackson addressed concerns regarding Trump's speech slurring, attributing it to the use of Sudafed. The media's aggressive questioning of the military physician is highlighted as a sign of deep-seated bias.

ronny jackson· donald trump· montreal cognitive assessment· white house· health

49:13 This was done, the timing was done along with the medical examination. Sure sure I mean it's too much of a coincidence otherwise and... And I watched the whole thing and i know you got some clips will be probably overlap have some other things but in general this doctor is rear admiral who would he had been the doctor for Bush jr. and for Obama and now for Trump He came across as very credible and likeable. Yeah, and the whole... I mean of course I was just sitting there waiting for the questions because that was going to be them and it turned out really fun but he sounded like a professional and you know got all his fruit salad on. I'm thinking he probably wouldn't lie

50:05 You know? And what I looked for but couldn't find easily was the briefing that was done about President Obama, who was a smoker. By the way we know Obama certainly smoked weed he liked to drink Hillary Clinton always talking about Chardonnay collapsing Yeah, she's a heavy drinker I think. But the scrutiny was just delicious to watch! It was truly... they could not believe what they were hearing this is not possible we need to discredit everything it can't be this cannot be right this doctor has got to be lying We can see it with our own eyes And people are just losing their crap over it.

50:58 You know how we both pick up the voices of the various congressmen because we've been watching C-SPAN too long? I can pretty much pick up the voices of the correspondents. And there were rude correspondents asking, you know one of them one of the guys i think was a guy came up and asked about the 25th amendment coincidentally. Did you get a clip Now it was really boring because the guy kept hemming and hawing about because he knew he wasn't gonna get anywhere He's his doctor I'll just tell you what the guy asks. He says well regarding 25th Amendment if something was right really happened It was wrong with the president What would you have to do with it? What would you will you have anything to do with getting these thing, you know getting the 25th Amendment

51:39 in play. And the doctor says, no not really I mean if somebody came up to me and said could you examine him because he fell on his head or something? Right. Um...and so it never really went anywhere and I was thinking believe me I was gonna try to clip it but it was long-winded yeah It wasn't a good clip the other ones were more the more aggressive ones were earlier when they just asked him about the cognitive test because the guy, what the doctor did which they never did with Obama was a cognitive test to see if the guy was thinking clearly. And I saw a couple examples of the Montreal Cognitive Test and

52:18 They look like pretty much the same questions for the Miss America pageant. You know, what color is the White House? What animal is this? Who's born in Grant's tomb all of these things on The Groucho March show. But what's interesting... I didn't see any M5M journalists go after the test. Although, I think they really want to? They really wanted to say well look he passed the what color is the White House test but for some reason they're afraid to do it because i guess it is a true standard. No there'll be blowback if they do that Right, but you could feel it. They were like look here it is and they show a page with the rhinoceros and the elephant and the giraffe Apparently there's a lot of cognitive tests in the one that he gave was the most stringent Yeah You know my favorite thing about this by the way afterwards was a tweet I saw

53:09 For some Trump hater that said, fine. Trump's not insane he is just a moron! Okay that will do it. Yeah I kind of summarized everything. That'll do it. But so here's the back story and if you want to play the whole thing its kinda long because I think the guys, the doctor is a little boring to be honest about it, but this is the president's doctor question and answer about the cognitive test I'd like that you brought the longer clip because no other No other show does it? Because it's you know sometimes boring but it's important There have been some questions as part of your exam if we talk to the president about this by the President's mental fitness He has pushed back on that calling her a staple genius. Can you assess the president's mental fitness for office absolutely

53:59 So many of you may have picked up on the fact that we did do a cognitive assessment as part of the exam. And initially, I had no intention to include any cognitive assessment in this exam because be honest with you per all the guidelines that are out there it's just not indicated at this time A lot of the guidelines would suggest that you do cognitive screening questions And that if you have a positive or concerning answer in the screening questions, then you engage with a cognitive screening tool. So I had no intentions whatsoever doing that like I said because I didn't feel it was clinically indicated and part of the reason why I didn't think it was clinically indicated is because I've spent almost every day in the president's presence since January 20th 2000 last year

54:40 when he got into office and I've seen him every day. I see him one, two sometimes three times a day because of the location in my office we have conversations about many things most don't revolve around medical issues at all but I've gotten to know him pretty well and I had absolutely no concerns about his cognitive ability or you know his neurological functions so I was not going to do a cognitive exam. The reason that we did the cognitive assessment is plain and simple because the president asked me to do it. He came to me and he said, Is there something we can do? A test or some type of screen that we can do to assess my cognitive ability? And so I looked into it once again and my initial question was that I didn't think it was indicated and I didn't think we should do

55:27 After looking at some of the guidelines, there are a few guidelines out there that lean in the direction of potentially doing it. The Medicare Guidelines and some of the NIH National Institute on Aging have indicated that it might be a good thing to start doing for most patients in the future With that in mind, I went through and looked at a variety of the cognitive assessments available. Most of them were very simple and short. That's the goal for primary care providers is to keep it simple and short. We picked one that was more involved. It took significantly longer but the president did well on it.

56:05 That was not driven at all by any clinical concerns I have it was driven by the president's wishes and he did well on it. Ruh-roh! Well, that wasn't expected No and i like the aggressiveness of who I think is Mary Bruce The aggressiveness of the, if it wasn't hers I can think of two others that would have asked that. The aggressiveness of the question and they continued with these guys are trying to...I mean its just so lopsided its like the apple a couple things though. We were wrong, I was wrong

56:53 Oh, I had that clip too but you probably haven't. No no, play your clip. There was an incident recently where the president appeared to slur his words while giving an address Did you look into what the cause of that might have been at all? Yeah we talked about that and actually one of my ENT consultants was involved in that We evaluated him, we checked everything out And everything was normal So they... Well I understand he just said they checked it out then Well, this is the thing in that first clip that kind of got my attention which is you wonder why these guys live so long He's the doctor. Is it got an office in the right? He's Trump daily and he sees him three or four times a day Yeah

57:37 And by the way, that would if you saw somebody three or four times a day and just shot the crap with them. You like you know what? Yeah, you would do if you see anyway. Oh there she's going to all I had it with their joy said Madam Secretary last Sunday no Anyway, yeah But that's interesting as you say this interesting that they he had him checked That day after that incident to see what was going on Apparently he's just hanging out with them all the time. One of my ENT consultants was involved in that, we evaluated him and checked everything out and everything was normal. We even went so far as to do an ultrasound on his parotid glands and a few other things

58:14 and there was absolutely no clinical findings that would suggest. I think the reason for that was, quite honestly me being up here right now i think i need a drink of water but uh... I think that um...I had given the president some medication specifically some Sudafed over the days previous and I think that I had inadvertently kind of dried up his secretions a little bit more than I intended to do it I think that precipitated it I was even simpler than my explanation. I thought it was dentures Yeah, but it was just too much suit if yeah that can that can dry up It was still pretty slurry I've never you know, I'm not

58:58 Yeah, I'm not 100% convinced that explanation works. But it's possible and he didn't do his two-hand grasp of the jug. I think he is never going to drink water in public again after the recent experiences because he doesn't seem to drink like a normal person. He grabs the thing by 2 hands and then brings up to his face like he is an alcoholic. Yeah! Not a good look No, it's not a good look. There was something else that I caught unless you have something else? I do have one more which is this another shorty

CHAPTER 09 / 33 Discussion

Sanjay Gupta CNN Analysis, Trump Heart Disease Claims

CNN's Sanjay Gupta analyzed President Trump's coronary calcium score, which rose from 34 in 2009 to 133 in 2018. While Dr. Ronny Jackson described the President's cardiovascular health as excellent, Gupta argued that a score over 100 technically qualifies as heart disease. The discrepancy between the official medical report and the cable news interpretation is examined.

sanjay gupta· cnn· calcium score· heart disease· donald trump

59:37 This was because they can't, these guys is this media just can't let go of anything. And so they ask the doctor if they find one of his old assertions when Trump's boasts and it was many boast and he decided to find out whether it's true or not. The guy just really does a great job at pushing it aside. This is the healthiest ever. President's personal doctor memorably said during the campaign that he would be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency I'm not gonna comment on that. My job is to is to basically give you my assessment of President Trump today, and I'm not gonna make any any comparisons with presidents over the last 200 years He shut up yeah Here is another question that we had

1:00:35 Or something we've discussed in the past that we got an answer to, I was happy with. Some of the president's friends have told reporters in the past they think he is a germaphobe That he washes his hands obsessively and is concerned about that Did you see any indication of that type of behavior being around the president? No, I mean he washes his hands frequently He uses Purell Don't you wish you were Purell Oh yeah. That's like the Xerox of copiers, you know? It just... it's not hand sanitizer no Purell! Nice!! He uses, you know, Purell and as many hands he shakes in a day he'd be a fool not to so I think that the more he can wash his hands and use Purell I'm encouraging that So i'm never going to say anything that he shouldn't be doing so I would like for him to continue To be a bit of germaphobe And make my job a little easier along the way Yeah, take that

1:01:23 And then, this is when our producers caught this. So there was a question like someone wanted to know if he had other drug issues and the way I think the journalist that she came out the wrong way and she said you know if he has any other drug addictions? And the doctors laughing but then there was a follow-up that I didn't ever heard on on M5M transmissions. He doesn't drink and he doesn't smoke Other than the diet issue, did you address drug addiction? Drug addiction? I mean any other drugs. Yeah no he has no drug addiction. Thank you Dr. Jackson. Now you may not have been able to hear that but then she follows it up after he basically puts her in her place saying uh now he has no drug addiction she says how about sexual addiction

1:02:12 Now Sanjay Gupta was there asking questions, you know I've never seen him in the in the White House press briefing before but he was there and they did a little breakdown Yes CNN Well, whatever CNN did. I watched this. I watched the question and answer with Gupta and it seemed pretty straightforward and it didn't seem like a gotcha anything but CNN kind of twisted it, I thought. Kinda! Sanjay correct me if I'm wrong but you did see some troubling signs when you look at the data so let me put up for everybody there's this thing called the calcium score

1:03:00 high cholesterol, your doctor sometimes encourages you to get a calcium score to see if the plaque is already building up in your arteries. So in 2009 the president's calcium score before he was president was 34. Can we stop for second? I want to preface this clip with what that Navy doctor said and he talked about the calcium score, and he talked about it with Gupta at the time. And his, he prefaced it, what he said, The president has incredibly good cardiovascular health, and the calcium score is indicators are fantastic! I mean there's calcium but that's expected of a man in his age but the numbers are such that as nothing to be concerned about at all.

1:03:46 And this is start with right so we're going to pull that out of context I'm glad you saw group does thing it was pretty. calm and there was nothing shocking or any surprising. It's vanilla? Yeah, very vanilla but this is how it's being presented and turned around as you say if the plaque is already building up in your arteries so in 2009 the president's calcium score before he was president was 34 in 2013 before his president it was 98 today its a hundred and thirty three and as you see from their little cheat sheet fine print below a score of over 100 means a high risk of heart attack or heart disease within three to five years. What do you make of these findings? This coronary calcium score is the score that a lot of cardiologists use to try and be predictive and be proactive, and if the number gets up over 100 that is concerning to a lot of doctors it's concerning because you can start to say well if you do nothing different if things don't change

1:04:44 You can start to predict the likelihood of having some sort of heart event, cardiac event or heart attack or something like that within a certain number of years. And you see the trajectory of President Trump's numbers no doubt and I think Dr Jackson alluded to this based on because of his diet and because of this lack of exercise that would be a part the reason those numbers have likely gone up and they have continued to go up despite the fact that he's been on medications so the president has heart disease those numbers qualify him for having heart disease and it clearly needs a plan to try and prevent some sort of her problem down the road little different than the way the doctor explains says specifically had no heart disease yes uh... well this on jays uh... lying then

CHAPTER 10 / 33 Discussion

Presidential Weight Controversy, Media Body Shaming

Public skepticism regarding President Trump's reported weight of 239 pounds led to viral comparisons with professional athletes like Tim Tebow. The discussion explores how television and "Photoshopped" images contribute to public perception of the President's physical stature.

donald trump· body mass index· photoshop· media bias· weight

1:05:29 Well, he's got a job to do. And the thing that everyone is focusing on is this height and weight So apparently on some other medical record he's 6'2", this admiral says he's 6'3". 239 pounds! Everybody's laughing They won't quite call the doctor out as a liar, they really want to. Well yeah they do, on Twitter they do one of my Twitter pals Carly down in Louisiana It's gone off the deep end on this because I think she's married to or living with some guys that football players is a monster. Well, good because i'm going to give you a couple of monsters to compare with Trump But a lot of these monsters that people compare are like muscle-bound guys Yeah, but I mean fat and muscle do not weigh the same as per square inch Tim Tebow six foot two 236 pounds

1:06:25 Cam Chancellor, I happen to know this guy because you know i've seen a game. 6'3", 232 pounds Jay Cutler, 6'3", 231 pounds and they had Sports Illustrated did it Bo Scarborough that guy's a monster! 6'2", 235 pounds Trump may be overweight he maybe a fat ass but the say the 239 pounds is impossible just doesn't seem the same to me But I don't get what people are saying. Are they saying he's not that big? They're saying that he has to be much heavier than 239 pounds Oh Well, you know we have our economic hitman who haven't heard from for a while hint That I had lunch with recently and he says he met Trump and he says these 300 pounds if he's announced Why would the doctor lie make it possible?

1:07:24 Well, Trump may have been heavier in the past. I have this suspicion that he's actually lost a lot of weight since he became president. Well, I think he's still wearing the vest which makes you look pretty bulky on top his ass is definitely a wide load and no doubt That thing is caboose But it's possible! Yeah but how much do you think I weigh? I'm 6'5". How much do you think I weigh if an ounce You're pretty skinny At six five I'd say you weighed 180 yeah 187 I should be 192, I think. I'm a little underweight." Yeah. But still... So does that mean that the doctor lied? And if so why? He was very clear that he wanted him to lose weight but why would he lie about it and then if you lied about it- Well he said he wanted him to lose 15 pounds so he wants them down too. If he weighed 300 pounds he'd want them to lose a lot more than that. It would be he is 240.

1:08:29 I mean he's not William Howard Taft, which is what everyone likes to believe. Who was 300 plus pounds as president and there are so many other guys... Now they're calling for a public weigh-in because they don't trust it Yeah, you have to stand on the scale. We want to see it. This never ends! Yeah we don't believe it. Stand on the scale... This is the type of anger that this is Joy Reid talking to Stephanie Hamill I think she's a consultant to The White House How did you feel when you heard those comments? So Joy, we didn't actually hear him say those words That's a different topic, I'm sorry It was just anger Well, we'll play that later so yeah, I don't know

1:09:13 That's quite a discrepancy. I too thought, you know because we've talked about him being very heavy but okay then... Well lot of this is you know we get a lot of our preconceived notions Don't forget on television, which is where we see it mostly you're always gonna look everybody looks heavier Yeah I mean some people that are skinny as a rail and you can name a number of actresses. You probably personally know that Look if a 20 mile an hour breeze comes by knock them over they look fine on television Do you remember Ann? And remember Nancy Wilson from heart? Oh

1:09:55 Yeah, vaguely yeah I do so there was a point at MTV in the late 80s and so Anna Nancy Wilson And Nancy well she was just big. She was just huge woman And I think she was so upset about it that when we received, I forget which video it was. Troll room may know Their new video came in and we looked at it and remember this is late 80's They had squeezed the video So there were actual black bars on each side of the screen for-and they tried to make it art like you know Like a letter box only the letter boxes on the wrong side

1:10:32 and to squeeze it to make her look thinner, and it was so sad. We sent back is this a mistake in the edit? No that's what Anne and Nancy actually want oh okay could have fooled us well sorry Anne was the big one Nancy is not big one they're both the same size when they started out Point is is that TV makes you look heavier and we also have ingrained burned into our psyche a number of Photoshop jobs that were done on Trump including the one with the big giant gut where he's swinging the golf club With this huge guts. Yeah, and the one with the double chins We see where he's like looking down at something somebody's

1:11:22 put in a whole bunch of chins so it looks like he's got a big fat head. I'll tell you Jeff, I had the same bias! I was convinced that...I'm like pfft That doesn't sound like enough and that could be just totally from bias I think there's a lot of bias there. And we've been conditioned, don't forget even we and I'm telling this to the producers that the two of us even though were pretty good at catching each other spewing some bull crap which is why you have to have two guys do this show by the way. Yes just like the emergency alert system need two people. You need two guys to man the system yes. He's gonna finish that story no matter what so

1:12:05 So we are subject, both of us to the same kind of subtle propagandistic stuff that goes into the mainstream, into the public at large which includes a big gut Photoshop job. When I saw that I said wow this guy is really an unflattering photo not thinking oh yes Photoshop or the triple chins one got me so much that I had to go find the original picture which I did find And I because I want to see how this guy was doing it was dynamite. Yeah, the gut was really good too by the way a very well done Photoshop You are and you're a photoshop fan you like I'm a fan of the fan of the broader shops yes, but

1:12:49 But I can't, some of these things some people do is just remarkably dynamite. It's like the guys who do the jingles! Well, as I was about to say there's a jingle for it it's as we always say If it rings true...it IS true The rings true? It is true And Like a wolf With that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C when the c stands for Cardiac Consultant Dvorak In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry! In the morning to all ships at sea and boots on the ground feeding in air and subs in water and all the dames and knights out there Yes, in the morning to... let me see who we're going to thank Ah yes, we're gonna thank Brett Simovich Double T, Brett Simovich First time he ever had the courage to upload a piece of art He said And it was The Slot Machine, the 999 slot machine A great piece

CHAPTER 11 / 33 Discussion

Episode 1000 Donations, Executive Producer Credits

The hosts acknowledge major donors for the 1,000th episode, including Sir Andy Chan and Sir Zahn Jr. New knights and producers are recognized for their financial support through the value-for-value model. A discussion on "Jobs Karma" and "Goat Karma" accompanies the reading of producer notes.

donations· brett simovich· lincoln hammond· terry clark· knighthood

1:12:05 So we are subject, both of us to the same kind of subtle propagandistic stuff that goes into the mainstream, into the public at large which includes a big gut Photoshop job. When I saw that I said wow this guy is really an unflattering photo not thinking oh yes Photoshop or the triple chins one got me so much that I had to go find the original picture which I did find And I because I want to see how this guy was doing it was dynamite. Yeah, the gut was really good too by the way a very well done Photoshop You are and you're a photoshop fan you like I'm a fan of the fan of the broader shops yes, but

1:12:49 But I can't, some of these things some people do is just remarkably dynamite. It's like the guys who do the jingles! Well, as I was about to say there's a jingle for it it's as we always say If it rings true...it IS true The rings true? It is true And Like a wolf With that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C when the c stands for Cardiac Consultant Dvorak In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry! In the morning to all ships at sea and boots on the ground feeding in air and subs in water and all the dames and knights out there Yes, in the morning to... let me see who we're going to thank Ah yes, we're gonna thank Brett Simovich Double T, Brett Simovich First time he ever had the courage to upload a piece of art He said And it was The Slot Machine, the 999 slot machine A great piece

1:13:44 You know what's funny? Very few people have ever hit the home run on the first try. I mean, some people have so i'm going...I'm in Vegas with uh when I was at InfoWorld and we're in Vegas for one of our trips to Comdex and one of the writers Paul Freiberger You know, we're walking around and I said you ever play slots or video poker? He says no. Never! I've never played slots or video poker ever. And he says you should play at least once so that you can say you played and don't have any worldly experience if you haven't lost some money. So myself and another guy talked him into dropping a quarter into a slot machine and it hit the jackpot. How much came out?

1:14:35 30 bucks or 50 bucks something like that nice and as far as I know he never played again Perfect perfect well we want to thank Brett and all of our artists throughout the years who have been helping us I don't know, but then we didn't start the first episode with artwork. I don't remember when we actually started No no it was the guys it was Paul T Yes Paul T And who reminded me in nasty emails you don't remember my name because he was the guy moved off to Asia and never heard from him since but guess He still listens once in a while and and the other guy who's the other guy served as an art tour? No no couture came later tours that want to put up the website. He wasn't one of the early artists

1:15:19 And if you remember, there was a different website. Oh man I know you've confused me...I really don't... Yeah Couture came along later... Rhinoceros Elephant Giraffe Paul T and one other guy were the two guys who started doing the art and they're the ones that kept putting us in the picture And then they had, there was another website and then Paul Couture came along with a really good website. And then everybody slowly gravitated to that. I don't know what happened to the art on the first website but if you look at the Couture site you'll see where his art begins and before that is where the other website was.

1:15:56 It's been a long road. A thousand shows! Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can upload your art Thank you to all the artists who have helped us throughout the years We are convinced it makes a big difference having fresh album art, it really rounds out the product and your expertise and yeah I appreciate thank you for your courage. It was very nice Also in the morning... So we got lucky winner? I gotta say in the morning to the troll room You know, they've been around for a long time too. I know you have disdain for them but i'm just saying in the morning to them. Disdain? Yes you hate them! I don't hate them...I'm not a hater. Yeah okay uh all right well let's thank a few people for being executive and associate executive producers we have a long list of these people and it's going to take a little longer than usual but we can alert affiliates. Alert the affiliates?! We're going long

1:16:56 So we start off with it, but I do like I do like sir Andy Chan who came in who's come in before with $5,000 Wow And to make it even more more interesting his note is happy 1,000 Gents that's the note. Yeah wow and And I think we should give him some gratuitous karma. Oh, yeah I'm gonna give him I said to get something here I had I'm gonna give him some some fresh goat charm a service go Karma who like that You've got karma Onward

1:17:45 Thank you very much, Sir Andy. That is fantastic! Does he get an upgrade with his... He's gonna have to ask for what he wants I'm yeah he's up there and something Viscount Earl? I'm not sure but he needs to tell us what he wants Yeah okay Okay we got sir is this Zahn? Sir Zahn Jr of the one cat army The one cat army yes in Colorado Springs that's a thousand dollars This notice for my donation of $1,000 to Show 1000. I was bummed that I let the 999 donations slip by me however i think this donation makes one thousand dollars for show 1000 a penny makes it palindrome and 1001 which is what he came in at 1001 he's asking you for the penny wait for it is the binary representation of 33 which we put out on our newsletter yes

1:18:38 He's the only one who took advantage of it. Everybody else, because there was two, it was a conflict between $1,000 and 1 cent which equals 33 in binary and 1000 which equals eight, the Chinese lucky number so that people chose the Chinese lucky number over this screwy 33 generally. Thanks for your continued hard work to shed light on the televised propaganda that is masquerading as reporting I no longer watch the news and figure it's, if something happens, I'll hear about it first on Twitter. And then I'll get a breakdown on the No Agenda show. You see Show 1000 as a mile marker and not a finish line. There is no other show podcast or you know, could be a finish line but we're gonna make it a marker

1:19:27 I liked the thousand thing. I mean, I only did about a thousand Silicon Spin shows but i was fired! Okay, sorry I could be still doing it now you never know. Sorry to hear that Yeah, I was fired unceremoniously when I went on vacation Oh, that's the worst you come back It's on your voicemail yeah don't come in no wasn't under boy Here's the yard give it a story and he can stretch this segment But no wasn't on the voicemail although when I got back and found out I was fired I asked him why didn't somebody didn't tell me And the guy says to me, this guy who's still floating around in business. Oh I left a message on your voicemail! Well anyone who actually knew me knows that I don't have a voicemail So he was lying He was lying and so i said what are you talking about? I don't have a voicemail well then I left it on your other line he said. And I said I do not have another line and then he hung up oh yeah Yeah he choked he couldn't figure out what to do after all the lies Sad

1:20:34 Anyway, I've just altered the spreadsheet. Hold on one second. Yeah, we like get some job in goat karma He says resist we much and rubber Rubber Lizer numbers station cheers to you the show and all your supporters resist We must we must and we will much about that be committed. India, Tango, Mike standby 333333. Robilizer out jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

1:21:20 You know, I don't know why that's so funny to me that 33 rubble isers. Yeah It does sound a little like the number station Oh it sounds very much like a number station We should play a little number station action one of these days so people know what we're talking about And we probably have one That's okay. We don't need to do it now but I just If anyone gets, yeah. Number station... Anyway what it is some ham station that somebody's just reading numbers and everyone thinks it's like the Russians or something. Here's the parrot which they think is the North Korean one. There are also ones that speak English and have numbers And they're on shortwave Yeah! It's a code

1:22:15 Well, that's what the best what everyone thinks I got laid out. I'm sorry but late Lincoln Hammond in Austin Texas thousand dollars Lincoln his comment you made it great job fuckos if I may be knighted sir L Hawkins Huzzah yes, I look forward to Bestowing you with that title Lincoln. You know this guy no I don't oh You have a ring, your voice has a ring of familiarity. Yeah he lives in Austin so I presume... Yeah you should know him man! He's in Austin and you're in Austin That's right, I should know Benjamin Naitis, Nitis, Natus, Nitus over here in San Francisco Long term supporter of the show Thousand? Thousand dollars. I got laid off in November as a dude named Ben. He got laid off and gave us $1000 to support our efforts

1:23:13 An ad media company fellow night sir Boyle gave me job Nuts things not a jobs karma within two weeks I had an offer and am moving back to San Francisco, and she'll have to change my region from Dumbo as this brings me up to Baron all right And then what is he asking for here? Yeah? I'm just making it adjustment a thousand shows And we still haven't figured out the spreadsheet technology. I got it, just... It was an error i made. Uh Baron can get a climate gate into chemtrails? Don't be a denier! And Adam did you catch this on December 24th in The Chronicle why would he catch anything in The Chronicle

1:23:58 Best, and he talks about some article. I have not seen it so I have to check this later. Request moving karma so my stuff doesn't get broken or held ransom in transit. Ew! Well congratulations and we love it when Jobs' Karma works Yeah really do. You've got karma Over excessive on the goat there. Yeah, I see that a Terry Clark $1,000 with extremely long note

1:24:45 In the morning from the Arkansas Delta, I write and donate to you today to offer congratulations on reaching 1,000. I began listening to this show in episode 898...I get a kick out of people actually remember their first show after being hit in the mouth by a dear friend and chosen brother Sir John the Brewer out at St Louis Bay, St Louis Mississippi we have received beer from him I believe illegally John had been hitting me in the mouth for about two years, but it took the last election cycle for me to begin questioning the feedback of the M5M. This donation will bring me up to knighthood but not an instant-knight contribution due to the fact that I started a $5 subscription to this show after listening for about a month." I decided to wait until episode 1000 he goes on

1:25:32 On that note, douchebag call-outs for everyone who is listening and not contributing to the best podcasts in the universe. I like my talibis Sir Terry The Night of the Crowley Ridge Your commentary on Insanity the MK Ultra Programming Media especially over the last year has brought me closer to enlightenment than I've ever achieved In my 35 years I feel like I've grown to know you both very well During my worst weeks your show gives something to look forward too which i think it's a plus In regards to jingles, you can play at the end if you overloaded an episode. I would like to hear the full JCD gripe about airplane peanut consumption... We don't have that as a mix? No it's not a jingle And the sex mix jingle Oh that one i do have let me see is this one Let me just check hold on It was interesting how male elephant really dominated this world Yeah it was the elephant sex

1:26:33 Okay, yeah when you play that yeah we play that Anything else on here that we need to read. Yeah I think This is pure gold the elephant sex. I was tearing up from laughing so hard when it first heard of some of your best work Can I get a dose of Trump's Trump jobs karma and f-cancer karma for everybody who needs it yes? Of course Terry Clark, and thank you very much for your support at the best podcast in the universe jobs Jobs You've got karma.

CHAPTER 12 / 33 Discussion

Listener Feedback, No Agenda Art Generator

The hosts reflect on the history of the show's artwork, crediting Paul T and Paul Couture for developing the No Agenda Art Generator. They continue reading donation notes from long-term listeners in the UK, Saudi Arabia, and the United States, emphasizing the emotional fulfillment of direct audience support over traditional ratings.

paul couture· no agenda art· donations· podcasting· community

1:27:25 And he came in $384.96 in Yukon, Oklahoma and I believe did get a note from him to read his note from the last that we didn't read because we died but never read is note and this became with this one of those things where if there's something gets separated from something else you really have no mechanism for putting the two together Remember, we run this show out of John's drawer. Drawer! There is a drawer and so if things get moved... Oh here I might have it printed out because I got into the process having to print stuff out

1:28:04 Okay, not that. It's not that. You need tabs little tabs with little stickies Yeah and then the other problem is is that when somebody has a situation they instead of Attaching the note that they want to write note after note after note and the original note is lost somewhere in mess Yes So I'm gonna go back for the second segment. I'll bring Jolly's note into play and read it I'm not gonna do it now. All right, sir Dan protector of the underwater or something or other criminal investigators Of 350 bucks in Woodford Virginia Sir Dan protector of the underwater criminal investigators Please check email for note and okay, sir. Dan was of course here's another issue I should say yes that I can see the issue already Yes, I will type in Dan

1:28:55 and into the Squirrel Mail search engine. And so Eric DeShill is here, I see Knighthood maybe this January, Daniel Eber? Is that it? No, we can't know. Can you find my email account for me to be... no that would be $1,000 he didn't give us a thousand dollars. Yeah, we can't know. Oh wait may somebody be at the end. Sir Dan...no! So i don't know if...okay wait a minute let me type in sir dan in the email Sir Dan, no. No messages on the subject? Search. Ah! Squirrel mail comes through again from sir Daniel it says sir Daniel of the high desert is it the same guy I don't think so oh I don't think so this is nice preparation well I'm just saying I mean this is not that you can prep we prep for the material to show we don't prep for the reading notes okay people should note that I just want to make sure they this is pretty boring

1:30:04 Yeah, I'm sorry. Okay onward to our Andrew did so we can't find your note Andrew Daniel San Diego California 334 10 and he is in San Diego I made it just in time for show 1000 love the deconstruction that constantly goes on with by the way compliments on these long shows as probably be put aside. I do my best part to de-douche myself and donate to the greatest podcast in the universe, my per diem is on its way and I get paid on Friday so I'm happy to plunk down and get in on The Best Place To Get Your News Correctly Without The Bias. Hopefully as soon as I start a regular monthly donation cycle Jobs Karma probably destined me to land a job that allowed me to donate regularly so I am happy to finally have financial stability to get in on the donations cycle

1:30:49 If you're promising triple credit, I'm not promising triple credit. We promised triple executive producerships for people who've donated a thousand in the past. There were couple of people who were like oh it's triple so I'm a knight and we're like no no. No if you read the newsletter it was very carefully outlined and we discussed on this show that no no yeah You get triple producer credits if you donate $1,000 on previous shows right for this show But he does have the right to ask for jingles. I got ants, babies and cows... Don't eat me Hillary!

1:31:29 Yes to the head and goat okay, well just gonna play a little bit of the ants cuz it's long Just the intro because it's the best part is the intro I got ants You've got karma Sir Tom McRod Adams, Baron of the... something or other. The Blue Ridge! Although yes he didn't- It's glowing blue because of the radiation. No it's Baron of the Suncoast now. He says there is no Baron of the Blue Ridge I have a feeling that something went wrong there

1:32:20 Regrets from the tardiness of the final installment for show 1000 spent yesterday afternoon around surrounded by a horde 24 to be exact of excited human resources mostly in the seven and nine year old age group I served as a helping hand at a granddaughter's birthday party. Energizing, he says. Yeah, I'm sure it was. Seven and nine-year olds, the worst at a party! And if there are twenty four of them? Anyway, major congrats on your continuing show ever improving effort to deconstruct media stories in the long term narratives. Atomic Insights and The Atomic Show have benefited by applying your lessons to a single topic the long arc narrative created and disseminated about nuclear energy that media publishes stories about the tech but the disinformation in those stories is often pure negative marketing created by skilled propagandists serving competitive energy sources

1:33:17 Yeah, of course it is. Well actually it's worse than that because the new generation of journos they're not paid they're not skillfully trained they are just taught this way taught by their elders and this is the fact this is the truth This is how it is like Christina who yesterday said daddy we've never had a code red storm in Europe before And I look, and the UK is packed with snow. You know? The stuff that children would never see again except in snow globes? I wish you had that clip It's not- it wasn't a clip it was an article. Yeah...I wish there was a clip of it

1:33:57 Yeah, it's never gonna snow again. Follow at Atomic Rod read atomic insights and listen to the Atomic Show for continuing coverage our archives date back to April 1995 NJNK and thank you very much for your courage in your enduring support Sir Atomic Rod Adams Can you read the next one? Caleb Crossman, 333.33 Salem Oregon Congrats on 1K shows first time donor. Oh and he's a de-douche You've been de-douched I was hit in the mouth five months ago by my friend Mike No Agenda isn't the best podcast in the universe It's the only podcast in the universe A true oral refuge AURAL

1:34:41 Can I get a deducing done and a jobs karma of course? Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Nikka Karma Brian Schaefer $333 no note And thank you very much, Brian. Robert Kitzel in Waikoloa, Waikoloa, Waikoloa 333. Aloha John and Adam huge congratulations a monumental achievement look for the note from Big Island VIP okay we'll do that Sir Horatio of Wandsworth UK London

1:35:21 333. Congratulations on show 1000 I've been a fan since show one and DSC before that sir Horatio of Wandsworth UK now residing and enjoying the show in Saudi Arabia. What's this? Yes, Saudi keep on potting will pot away my friend we're buying Brady $314 97 cents And he's gonna be night wait. I think you did you miss somebody here? Edward Sheets in Brewerton, New York. $333 no note from him. ITM gentlemen it's only fitting that I listen to my first episode after the Charlottesville riots while driving south to visit my sister after a couple of months later here i am driving down to my sisters once more and its episode 1000 No better time to take advantage of the triple credit promo and hit my toll of 1,000 Not true

1:36:14 So that's another person who misunderstood the triple credit, meaning triple executive producers for people who donated $1,000 not 314.97 so the knighting is not accurate you should it seems to be on the list for some reason okay I think Eric didn't get the message either or he was misunderstanding this guy yes so Ryan sorry but that's not gonna happen But thank you very much yeah you got executive producer credit three times And it's highly appreciated, of course. But that was a misunderstanding." That deal was for $1,000 because it was the equivalent of three executive producers so we were going to give them three credits if they donated a thousand dollars on any show before Show 1000. Okay now I stand corrected It was unclear to me. It was very unclear and i'm gonna stop doing these deals because you only had a few people that took advantage of it anyway and uh... Because this seems to be so easily misunderstood. I didn't think it was that hard understand

1:37:18 All right onward and he doesn't have any jingles which she had an opportunity. He does he says for my jungles ah I see please play Trump's God bless you like this We have that as a clip, and god bless United States Yeah, I think we got that Why wouldn't we and what else did he want? Some road karma, I'll do it again, then god bless the united states Thank you very much You've got karma. No, I'm taking Sudafed in my life that's never happened Yeah, yeah, I think if anybody wants to bitch about Them lying to us. I'm not buying that I'm not buying it now I still think that's a little little much something was crazy there. Yeah Okay, we got Christopher Spalding from Franklin Park us 306

1:38:18 This is wishful thinking what exactly does that mean as I said Leo knew okay, so he's just bitching about Leo Not gonna read that but thank you for your contribution to the show Christopher wait a minute. He might have something else Oh here we go this is real note congratulations on third 1000 episode Your deconstruction has enlightened my perspective And very long note. Appears I'm portraying myself as a spotlight douchebag, trying to excuse my way out of donating in the past but if you or John say not to do it, I will respect your wishes? What's he talking about? But I'll have to look at this letter later so that is very long somethings. He wants to do something special. Onward to associate executive producer starting with Louis Pipkin in Tallahassee Florida 25589

1:39:09 Quite an accomplishment. I've been listening since the Haiti shithole earthquake and haven't fallen overboard yet." What? Isn't that recent? Oh no, the earthquake. The actual earthquake. That's a long time. Yeah, I can't put it into words how much value your show has been to me over the years. Thank you! No, please give a Trump jobs car with the service borough kicker to all the producers out there I'm sure that we can all use it no problem jobs jobs jobs Dave Fugazotto, Baron of Kansas City. $250 bucks. Congratulations you give yourself some celebratory horns my favorite and an LGY keep up the great work yeah Baron of Kansas City that was that was the big yay Wow we want a little yay there we go Ryan in Port Townsend Washington no jingles no karma thank you

1:40:28 Bill Hudick in Ellicott City, Maryland. $250 you may read please Congratulations to both, to you both on this momentous occasion. I was hit in the mouth several years ago with my first episode being 625 You both along with the help of your producers jingle makers and staff have consistently produced a high quality insightful comedy show Thank you that it look forward to twice weekly thank you all Like most producers i really appreciate the extra time you spend Recalling and explaining the background of certain issues and events along with your own personal stories like when John offered a ride on his motorcycle to a woman in the freezing weather. I also get a classic out of all your hey bills as my name is Bill With this value for value exchange it truly is a privilege to join you in the Knights and dames at the knowage in around table Yes, we will be bringing you their jingle requests Can you read these for me? Yes

1:41:27 Start off with the falsetto Ben It's just a dude named Ben. Just to do name been just to do name, Ben Which is the I believe? I don't remember that as a false it Yep, I got yeah, okay good doctor Kiki's but it was worth it which I guess referred to the flu shot, I didn't realize that. Karma Yay and end of show Let's Get Social which we actually requested it curiously. I requested that after the last show of Adam to put in in the next show and that's exactly what we have here! Okay let me write that down... Let's get social because of course I didn't write it down on the list. No, you know this is coming back

1:42:15 I've forgotten this one. It was worth it! It was worth it... You've got karma. I don't know why I don't remember the just a dude named Ben thing Sir Gordon Walton, and I'll take some more B12. 250. Calcium. Sir Gordon Walton in Austin Texas too you know him this might because you live in Austin you must know him yeah we hang out all the time this might get me to full barren Eric doesn't check you do him and Lincoln yeah we hang out with Lincoln and sir Gordons yeah no the rest of you guys all arrested you you cow turd kickers

1:43:10 Happy 1000, happy to have been here from the beginning. Oh okay. Thank you! You had to tell us whether you're barren. Eric doesn't have that tool has been out of service for years Well he's...he has a title change on the list so I'm gonna presume So I guess Eric did some work and it turns out you're going to be barren Good Do you see two different blue colors between Bill and Sir Gordon on your spreadsheet? Yeah there is two different colors but I don't never knew that light blue meant barren No, the light blue is a night and the dark no that hold on the night color on my spreadsheet is purple Oh it may be purple online but I'm you know now that you say it. It looks purple because I'm totally colorblind ah But it's got that but it's a different. It's definitely different color I can see that but it looks more like light blue to me so but now you say purple It's amazing it turns purple

1:44:05 Really? Yeah, I've had that. What color was the dress was it blue and black or white? Oh, I don't remember what I thought but I do know that we have some vases on the wall And I and I put the top to it put white coronations in the bottom two I put yellow coronations and or nations are carnation a coronation is fun too to put on the wall but a car nation and Sitting on the couch they all looked white Then not until I'm really close cuz oh yeah, they're yellow or then if I sit on the couch and say I know the bottom Two are yellow then. I see them as yellow. I think we have a problem Houston I think you just haven't well You do we talked about we haven't talked about this on the show? I can't see your color blind I can't see the numbers in the little dots ever Yeah, you know that we did it We did a piece of show art yeah

1:44:59 Once that had a color blindness test, and you just when you told me for the first time That hey I can't see it. And I'm thinking what are we talking about some color blind? Then he talks about it Yeah, so we're specific kind of colorblind yes It's the blue red color by the green top one stop bottom one go Okay onward to Anthony Rina re nna did we get Torben Peterson? I don't think so 250 Torban is from Norway No, we didn't hi Torbin best wishes wishes to the no agenda family and community. I will keep this brief as there's bound To be many notes that he read So all I asked for some jobs karma for the love of my life That would make both of us very grateful. I wonder if Torbans the same guy who made this software

1:45:51 that I'm using now on Windows. Hmm, I gotta look into that. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! And jobs... Let's vote for jobs!! You've got karma. It- It's little known fact that Torben is the equivalent of Bill. In Norway. There are plenty of them in Norway. Hey Torben! Torby baby! Anthony Rena 23456 no note so we go and jnk thank you for that. Scott Cooper 20202 is wrapping this up and he's parts unknown, he says my first donation the palindrome form I've since i started listening around show 980 his recent

1:46:40 and after being hit in the mouth about 3X by Baron HMFIC of the US Armed Forces. Thanks for that, we haven't heard from him for a while. Thanks for the new content you provided, I really liked the Dr. Steve interview and the bit on the Reese Commission. And look forward to more media deconstruction if I could, I'd like a de-dooshing. You've been de-dooshed! Oh, I'm sorry. It was part of a sequence got it we came he saw he died shut up you idiot to the head and some donkey car what is this? What is this shut-up idiot? I'm not sure I know what does he mean shut up you idiot? Maybe means don't rough

1:47:24 No, shut up. Oh maybe that's all I got it's the best must be it is the land of Unconfirmed yes we came we saw he died Why you are laughing Shut up actually that combinations fabulous Good work Scott Sir Tristan Banning, 200 bucks even. Happy 1000 love the P interview. Wowza NJNK. Thank you very much sir. Jonas R Astrum $200 he's in Sweden I believe here's to another 1,000 ITM and that's it finally that's a lot of people that helped us do show 1000 by financing the show and giving us a little boost in

1:48:26 Yeah, you're cheerleading. It's like cheerleading Well I'd like a lot of people You know reading through some of the notes trying not to read too deep into them because always think that we've done that donation note You know people saying I really wanted it step up and donate because I feel that That's the value have received over these 1,000 episodes whether they've never done a class masterclass yeah, that was our our anonymous CPA And it's very heartwarming and to see this, to see these donations and the support we're getting John it means people like what we do. You almost hit that Obama, I like what we do. People like what we do! We do it the best

1:49:12 Now, people like what we do and it is very heartwarming. And I'll tell you there is no advertiser... You know we got the big account! There's no ratings that compares to this. Brockton Gamble came in! That's right! Woo baby bring the bell! No, there's no ratings. We're number one overnight! No, there is none of that that makes me feel as good as the support we get directly from the audience It is extremely fulfilling so I appreciate it and want to thank everybody for their courage. It's like a stage play and people clap. You got the audience right in front of you, it's not as though you have to associate it from everybody because you're just working for an advertiser they get people buy their product that's what I don't like with the difference with the stage we're not doing the same play every single night

1:50:03 We do a completely different show, every single show. A lot of work goes into it and it's nice to see you appreciate it so thank you and everyone else should feel the same because without the producers we'd be nowhere And we decided a long time ago that you were not listeners, you're producers Absolutely You wanna say anything else? I don't know what to say, you got me stunned Hey! I'll tell ya what Show one double O-one coming up on Sunday Devorak dot org slash N-A One double oh one. All right now what you can do until then? Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth How many episodes have been doing it but still managed to talk over it that's great And why not yeah, of course there's nothing wrong with it It's our format at this point. It's just our format

CHAPTER 13 / 33 Discussion

DHL Bomb Scare, Canadian Penny Gift

A heavy package delivered via DHL sparked concerns among the No Agenda community about a potential explosive. Upon opening, the package was revealed to be a jar containing 1,000 Canadian pennies, sent as a commemorative gift for the 1,000th episode.

dhl· canada· pennies· bomb scare· gift

1:51:14 I want to mention to people out there, there'll be somebody we left out or something. Please send a message in and tell them that we will correct these things over time. You know, we've been talking about it...I'm sorry. I want us just say send something to me at johndevoort.org with the subject line ALL CAPS ERROR. Yeah that works don't send it to me People always sending it to me. He'll just send it to me and then I never read his email he's the only one whose email I look at in batch mode I will say, oh my god. I haven't read Adam's email for a while. And so then I'll read them all and start answering them all because she does the same thing with me. Oh! Bullshit! Yes because answer-answer-answer out of the blue I got five messages and so we do that with each other apparently and it's futile cause i'm going to get it anyway just mail it to me if I lose it I'll just lose it but

1:52:11 What I can do is a subject search on error, which that works. And then we can go through them eventually." You know there was a lot of concern on the No Agenda Face Bag group yesterday people had not seen me respond or...I don't post all that much sometimes I'll add a comment or something and they were very concerned about the DHL bomb package that i'd received and since they hadn't heard from me they were wondering if something had gone wrong And I opened... Thinking that because there was a bomb that blew up your place and killed you, this wouldn't be reported somewhere? Yeah. So you'll recall this was a very heavy box and it was from Candanavia delivered with DHL and if had in it would sound to me like ball bearings which would be perfect for a Unabomber type explosive. It turns out its not but is a very nice gift This is from Clown Show

1:53:10 I think i'm just supposed to say clown show and it is a here. It is Guess what this? Is it's a jar It's from canada. It's very heavy What do you think there's a jar full of gum drops, and it's very heavy Gum balls okay. Oh, it's heavy a jar full of tungsten balls Close it is a jar full of 1000 pennies Canadian pennies? Well, yeah because of course you know a thousand pennies would be ten dollars I think this is 40 cents cuz they're Canada. If they're real pennies made of copper They're actually worth two cents apiece Yeah, I looked it up and I think they are the ones made of copper so this is a $17 jar right here Wow

1:54:00 It's quite a curiosity to have. Yes, because they're all Canadian pennies and so you can't put them into one of the machines. No you can do anything with them. Oh actually you could! You go to one of those machines that turn the pennies and dimes and nickels into cash... By the way lot of banks have them, just ask the banker it doesn't cost anything And you'll get your dump in this huge jar of pennies because their Canadian and they'll all get rejected and it will sound like he hit a jackpot at a casino A thousand of them. I'm gonna keep it, it's nice. It's a nice conversation piece. Paperweight. Yeah! One... paperweight is-it's a body weight you can put this on and you can't get up the thing is heavy

CHAPTER 14 / 33 Discussion

Jordan Peterson Channel 4 Interview, Cathy Newman

Professor Jordan Peterson's interview with Channel 4's Cathy Newman is analyzed for its defense of free speech and critique of "compelled speech" laws. Peterson argues that the right to think necessitates the risk of being offensive. The segment highlights Newman's failure to distinguish between Peterson's opposition to government mandates and his personal willingness to use preferred pronouns.

jordan peterson· cathy newman· channel 4· free speech· gender identity

1:54:41 Hmm. I was very nice, I appreciate that was pretty funny So we've been talking in the a block as we're now on the b-block a lot about you know Let's get everyone used to being TV producers might as well Hey It's on your card so You know if you put it on your LinkedIn your executive producer of The No Agenda Show you need to know what works yeah There is this video floating around of Jordan Peterson this is the professor Who has a big mouth and I think yeah, he had to resign a letter from him recently you got a letter from Yeah, he's got some book coming out. He wanted yes That's what he's promoting Yes You know you should do an interview with him for one of our would love to do number of interviews I'd love to do well if you've gotten a note from or is it a PR thing III says it was from him It seemed like it was from him they could be bullcrap

1:55:35 Now I told him yes, send me the book but make sure you autograph it. So there's this video floating around where he's being interviewed by her name is Kathy Neumann, I think she's from Channel 4 and he fries her brain which you'll hear in this clip then he basically takes what she said turns it around and her brain fries. She's silent for seconds just trying to figure out how he trapped her into this but much more interesting because most people just cut it off there like Well, I want to know more about this clip and it's a half-hour interview which is totally worth it to watch. Do you remember the controversy about Peterson and using the proper pronoun? How do you recall this story? Yes, I vaguely remember he said he or she to somebody that was a she.

1:56:29 Kind of thing right and they got all bent out of shape about it because he hadn't asked permission to call the person is He or she and if you'd asked, he would have known it was a she or the or that or whatever Yes That's what I thought. That's what I thought. Well, that's what I thought too. I thought certainly I gotta buzz somebody buzzed me I buzzed you because we're both wrong. That is not What went down? And this skilled journo also had it wrong. So, it starts off with that then he brain fries her and then we kind of finish it off It's a little long but I hope you'll find it entertaining Let me move on to another debate thats been very controversial for you You got in trouble for refusing to call trans men and women by their preferred personal pronouns

1:57:19 No, that's not actually true. I got in trouble because I said I would not follow the compelled speech dictates of the federal and provincial government. I actually never got in trouble for not calling anyone anything. That didn't happen. Isn't that interesting? Ah! You know, I remember this...I do remember that and somehow it might because my being brainwashed by the mainstream everything Yes me too And this is like an example of us both getting hoodwinked Hoodway, could you start this over from the beginning? Yes of course. She has a phrase that I want to write down Let me move on to another debate that's been very controversial for you That yes it's just a trick that you run into when you're trying to say change subjects with an interviewer

1:58:04 Or with an interviewee, you say let me move on. In other words it could be heated or something and use this as a bridge... I've never used it and was thinking maybe its something to work with. Something to try out on the kids maybe? Yeah! Try it on the kids. Let's move onto another debate that has been very controversial for you. You got in trouble for refusing to call trans men and women by their preferred personal pronouns No, that's not actually true. I got in trouble because I said I would not follow the compelled speech dictates of the federal and provincial government I actually never got in trouble for not calling anyone anything right? That didn't happen wouldn't follow that change of law which was designed once it was law discrimination. Oh, well They said it was designed to do okay you cited freedom of speech in that why should your rights to freedom of speech Trump

1:58:56 a trans person's right not to be offended. Because in order to think, you have to risk being offensive I mean look at the conversation we're having right now You know like your certainly willing to risk offending me in the pursuit of truth Why should you have the right to do that? It has been rather uncomfortable Well, I'm very glad that you put me on this spot. You get my point. It's like you're doing what you should do which is digging a bit to see what the hell is going on and that is what you should do but your exercising your freedom of speech to certainly risk offending me and that's fine! More power to you as far as I am concerned. So you haven't sat there...I'll just try to work it out

1:59:42 Gotcha. You have got me, you have got me. I'm trying to work that through my head. Yeah yeah it took a while, it took a while. It did, it did yeah. Took awhile. You have voluntarily come into the studio and agreed to be questioned? A trans person in your class has come to your class and said they want to be called... That's never happened And I would call them she. So you've kind of changed your tune on that? No, no no i said that right from the beginning what I said at the beginning was that I was not going to cede the linguistic territory to radical leftists This is so good because first he nails her on hey your doing exactly the same thing as you're accusing me of

2:00:20 And now he's going to get in, and she still doesn't understand by the way. You'll hear that she does not understand what he is saying about the idea that the federal government or the state government or the regional whatever government he's talking about right? That they would mandate certain types of speech. Yes. Right. Let me summarize too. He'll call somebody as Xi if they ask him to because it's the polite thing to do yes but he's not gonna do it because the law requires it exactly Exactly. Wow, that was so misunderstood and misreported! Regardless of whether or not it was put in law That's what I said And then the people who came after me said oh you must be transphobic and you'd mistreat a student in your class It's like I never mistreated a student in my class. I'm not transphobic and that isn't what I said Well except we've also called trans campaigners authoritarian haven't you? Isn't that quite the inference... Only in the broader context of my claims that radical leftist ideologues are

2:01:17 authoritarian, which they are. You're saying someone who's trying to work out their gender identity who may well have struggled with that had quite a tough time over the years you're comparing them with Chairman Mao who saw the deaths of millions of people even if de-activists...you know they're trans people too and they have a right to say these things yeah but they don't have a right to speak for their whole community. To compare them to chairman Mao You know, I could... Pinochet. Augusto Pinochet! This is grossly insensitive. No, I didn't compare them to Pinochet. Well he was an authoritarian though. He's a right-winger though. I was comparing them to the left wing totalitarians Even this is not understood. And I do believe they are left wing totalitarians. Mao! Mao! Under Mao millions of people died. There's no comparison between Mao and a trans activist, is there?

2:02:04 Why not? Because trans activists aren't killing millions of people. The philosophy that's guiding their utterances is the same philosophy. The consequences are... Not yet! You're saying that trans activists could lead to the deaths of millions of people. No, I'm saying that the philosophy that drives their utterances is the same philosophy that already has driven us to the deaths of millions of people. Okay tell us how that philosophy in any way comparable? Sure! That's no problem The first thing is that the philosophy presumes group identity as paramount

2:02:47 That's the fundamental philosophy that drove the Soviet Union and Maoist China. And it is the fundamental philosophy of left-wing activists, its identity politics doesn't matter who you are as an individual it matters who you are in terms of your group identity You're just saying these things to provoke aren't you? I mean you are a provocateur! Your life is the alt right that you hate to be compared too. You want to stir things up... I'm only a provocateur insofar when I say what I believe to be true It's over. It's provocative. I don't provoke. No, he's done I wish it was longer. Well, you should watch the whole 30 minutes but dude read his book and get an interview with him! Dude... They'll be great

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Jeff Flake Senate Speech, Stalin Comparisons

Senator Jeff Flake delivered a speech on the Senate floor comparing President Trump's rhetoric regarding the "enemy of the people" to language used by Joseph Stalin. The hosts criticize Flake's frequent media appearances and the lack of legislative substance behind his "blaze of glory" retirement.

jeff flake· joseph stalin· donald trump· media· senate

2:03:28 Just to give you a... I just want to play this clip out of the blue, this Jeff Flake clip. Can you play this? Yeah, of course I can. A far different sentiment for the president coming on the Senate floor outgoing Republican Senator Jeff Flake blasting Mr Trump for repeatedly attacking the media and using terms like fake news and enemy of the people It is a testament to the condition of our democracy that our own President uses words infamously spoken by Joseph Stalin Wait, wait. If you're going to do that then I get to play my Paul Begala clip! Who's that guy? That Jamoak...Paul Gamalla. He used to work with the Clintons he is a consultant kind of guy and it was just huge ideologue for the Democrats. I think its terribly important because its part of larger picture when you compare our president, my president Joseph Stalin

2:04:22 to Rodrigo Duterte, the dictator in the Philippines. To Bashar Assad, the dictator in Syria that's extraordinary I'm an Iranian Democrat. Do you think that is a fair comparison? In the sense they lie yes he is a liar. But this was a speech about attacking the press and this president attacks the press. I would extend that because it doesn't only attack the press He calls federal judges so-called judges and attacks them because they are a check on his power. He's called, said the FBI is in tatters because they're investigating him. Says the CIA is like the Gestapo and he attacks the press. He attacks any check on his power because he would like to be like Duterte Assad

2:05:01 Putin Stalin, that's his crack. Isn't that great? Hey you taught me isn't that great Yes He wants to be like Bashar al-assad who had Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt over for lunch hanging out in In Aleppo was great Damascus actually now I want to get back to the professor But before we do that doing a mention something about Jeff Flake would who they were talking about yes Jeff Lake was on The christina and then poor show talking about the stalling comment he was on george stephanopoulos is show talking about his just what you say he's been all over the place he any question was asked by one of the right wing talkshow guys i was driving around listening to. And it was,

2:05:48 What is Jeff Flake on anything for? He's never done any legislation. He's not even going to run again for senator, this is I think his first term he's not remarkable for any reason. He's going out in a blaze of glory! And so why are they booking him there's what A hundred senators in the Senate that you could book for these shows, but they keep booking Flake over and over. Does he have a PR agent? What is getting him on these shows because... Because he has nothing to lose. He's not... because he can say what the other jimokes can't say.

2:06:25 Because there is that yeah because they're going for re-election and they're being careful and again blaze of glory martyr And you know, that's when you when you're a victim of you know, because of course he had to resign because he couldn't stand Trump anymore I mean, the fact was he wasn't gonna get reelected and the Republican Party wasn't gonna run him. Well there's that... There is something else going on in Candanavia you remember? Wait let's get back to the professor! Oh okay. You never finished your summary No, you summarized, I summarized and you said you wish there was more and i said you should interview him

2:07:03 Okay, yeah and So for me I liked the most. I like is that there was this perception of that He had done this horrible thing and he's transphobic which will live with him in perpetuity Even though it is absolutely... It's like the gas bombs from Assad that were obviously from the rebels has been proven over and over again, but keeps being used. He gassed his own people! The Revolutionary Guard throwing children out of incubators on the floor Viagra in Libya. My favorite! Yeah, not just Libya I think that's everywhere they're doing that Send those soldiers in there loaded up with viagras to me was still the best. Yeah but it's all back and forth. And I'm surprised it doesn't come up in a conversation more often. Just wait...it's in rotation

CHAPTER 16 / 33 Discussion

Fake News Awards, Paul Krugman Criticism

President Trump released his "Fake News Awards" via the GOP website, highlighting reporting errors by CNN, The New York Times, and ABC News. The number one spot was awarded to Paul Krugman for his 2016 prediction that the economy would never recover from a Trump presidency.

fake news awards· paul krugman· cnn· abc news· donald trump

2:07:56 By the way, which brings us to talking about the rotation which we've discussed on this show Do you think they're gonna have to take the insanity thing out of the rotation? No no no no. I'll bet you they well It'll come back just it what's away into what degree I think justice so that mean Well, they see you have to adjust it because he's been proven to be sane Now they're not buying it But I in it no because they feel that the you know rhinoceros elephant giraffe Test is just a dumb test now. They don't they're not buying it. I think it'll stay in rotation The key to keep him as unhinged Any hinges good? Yeah, but I don't see can do with him. We'll see now Did you get the full list of his fake news awards and

2:08:45 I don't have it in front of me, but I do have the website which i can go to quickly. No, I got it here, I'll tell you. Okay the fake news awards... okay let's back up and this came up as a teaser on our last show because supposedly on Tuesday is going to release the fake news awards which he did didn't get much play got a lot of print playing it much on the TV agency didn't see it much I did or. I have a clip. I don't have a clip no, I don't have it. I thought the awards I thought the awards had maybe two items I think of fake news the one about the feeding the fish was a good one where they re-edited video really in in context because he had a top 11 for whatever reason must be some elitist Illuminati thing and

2:09:29 He had the top 11, and I thought it was very well done. If you read...I mean it doesn't matter because no one aired it they don't want to talk about it but so number 11 Russia collusion So he puts that at the bottom of the list Russian collusion is perhaps the greatest hoax perpetrated on the American people there is no collusion 10 New York Times falsely claimed on the front page that the Trump administration had hidden a climate report 9. CNN falsely reported that former FBI Director James Comey would dispute President Trump's claim that he was told he is not under investigation 8. Newsweek falsely reported that the Polish First Lady Agata Kornhauser did NOT shake President Trump's hand And they have a picture? Yeah 7. CNN falsely reported about Anthony Scaramucci meeting with a Russian but retracted it due to a quote significant breakdown in process 6

2:10:19 CNN falsely edited a video to make it appear President Trump defiantly overfed fish during a visit with the Japanese Prime Minister. What a story! Look at Trump, he's over feeding the fish! Defiantly! Defiantly! The Japanese Prime Minis... It's like he was saying fuck you fish! the 2. Time falsely reported that President Trump removed a bust of Martin Luther King Jr from the Oval Office 3. CNN falsely reported that candidate Donald Trump and his son, Donald Trump Jr had access to hacked documents from WikiLeaks

2:11:11 Two, ABC News' Brian Ross chokes and sends markets in a downward spiral with false report about Michael Flynn testifying against President Trump. And then number one I thought this was the point and it was not lost on the elites in American society. Number one The New York Times Paul Krugman claimed...and he is a Nobel Prize winning economist? He has a...Krugman is the yes, I believe so. I think he has a Nobel prize doesn't he? Yeah, I think so too. The New York Times Paul Krugman claimed on the day of President Trump's historic landslide victory that the economy would never recover Yes And that is the whole point of his article The whole point of his fake news awards is to shove it up Krugman's butt and that's a thing that matters most on this list

2:12:03 You know, I think you're right. I never looked at it that way because I looked at the list in the reverse...in the right order although I think that the countdown is to do order that make more sense which is- Hey! I used to count backwards from 20 for a living so I have some experience There's something funny about this Yes hey everybody welcome to Top20Video Countdown and Adam Curry here on The Big M So You're right, that's the way it should have been done. Although everyone just named it 1 through 10 they didn't do any dramatic manner which is what the way it should have been done yeah David Letterman style and

2:12:43 Well Letterman was a little different. Yeah, you're probably right that probably was the one the number one it wasn't fake news though I mean yeah i'd say there's only One item on there that i'd say is definitely fake news which was the re-editing of the video with the japanese guy? Yeah uh feeding the fish that was to Re-edit it That's fake news You're just making a phony story right The Kregman thing was an opinion piece written as a column It doesn't mean he's a fake news purveyor, it just means he didn't know what the hell he was talking about. I think to the public to say oh by the way you're top guy in the world New York Times economist wrong again

2:13:22 I think that was the whole point of his awards. The point is well taken, yeah he's not the only one who said that oh if Trump gets elected we're gonna have an economic collapse and markets going to go down Didn't Soros hedge against it? Yeah Soros probably lost money on that election I'm sure So they say... Well you don't know You don't know I mean, it's supposed to happen in Europe and in England too with Brexit. What did happen was that the pound collapsed but it hasn't changed doesn't affect you if you're living in England and the pound is worth whatever it is internationally doesn't matter to you when you're buying eggs right okay? I had one other story from Candinavia You recall this actually sparked some humorous banter on the show

CHAPTER 17 / 33 Discussion

Hijab Hoax in Canada, Justin Trudeau Reaction

An 11-year-old girl in Toronto falsely claimed a man used scissors to cut her hijab, an allegation that drew immediate condemnation from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Police later determined the incident never occurred. The segment criticizes the "virtue signaling" of Canadian leadership and the potential for hoaxes to derail serious discussions on discrimination.

canada· hijab· justin trudeau· hate crime· hoax

2:14:14 where there's lots of talk and schools now outfitting their supply cabinets with emergency hijabs. You remember? No, for some reason I don't remember. Yeah girls' hijabs being ripped off their head and so then you know schools... Oh right! And they're gonna have an emergency hijab kit So what started this all was this girl in Candinavia who made a big case about Her hijab being pulled off her head the tale of what happened to this 11 year old Muslim girl while on her way to school Was so disturbing it made headlines both across the country and on news websites around the globe

2:14:55 touting her claim that a scissor-wielding stranger had pulled back the hood of her jacket and cut her hijab. Today, though police said the story was indeed troubling because it was bogus. Bogus! He should know... The word is bogative not bogus. Bogative. Today though police said the story was indeed troubling because it was bogus We analyzed the evidence We came to the only conclusion that made sense which is that this didn't happen. On Friday, the grade 6 student and her family went before the cameras at a press availability arranged by school board staff At the time police considered the incident of potential hate crime Though some in the community felt something didn't sound right about the girl's story For someone to take their hoodie off first and then try to cut it so this all

2:15:43 You know, the story didn't really appeal me that it really could have happened. The Prime Minister and others though believed the girl and were quick to respond. I can't imagine how afraid she must have been It's not yet been revealed why she lied with some critical of the decision to allow her to speak at a school which seemed to lend credibility to her story. I've been involved in number of issues where the School Board acting with the best intentions but being driven by political correctness and virtue signaling have made some wrong calls this was definitely the wrong call Some Muslim groups are now concerned because hate messages aimed at the girl have popped up online and they fear the false allegation could lead to further discrimination. This will probably be used as an opportunity to downplay all of the times that Muslims come out and speak out against Islamophobia, but we should try to really push back from allowing this derail the very serious matters that are happening in this country

2:16:39 As for the girl, because she's 11 police are no longer involved. And it's up to the school and her parents to decide if she'll face any further consequences." And we're still defending it... It's crazy! It's unbelievable No, it's not unbelievable. It's unbelievable, it's unbelievable I'll tell you that the Prime Minister of Canada is an idiot The guy's a sucker he goes for anything He takes the bait There's a worm on a hook, he's biting That's true Sorry, Canada. Yeah I have two more... How many donors were congratulating us from Canada on today's show? Not a lot actually and they're usually pretty good yeah i think they're mad at us no they're not mad. I think it's this new guy this new prime minister Justin Trudeau. A guy named Justin looking at my Apple podcast stats they are still number 2 on the list

2:17:36 The UK is third. I think it's like... Yeah, but this is only amongst Apple X users? Yes correct So Apple X user or 10X so Apple X user are usually well-heeled and also very kind of concerned about their personal prestige, so they have this X instead of an eight which is what the smart money would have. Or real smart money would have a Samsung. And I don't know if I've said this on the show but I'm gonna say it now. The audio quality on the Samsung phone is outrageous! It's fantastic! Oh really? Not really. Ah! It's unbelievable Here's our list...it's pretty interesting This is only elites

CHAPTER 18 / 33 Discussion

CRX Meta-Search Engine, Google Alternatives

The hosts discuss the benefits of using the CRX meta-search engine to circumvent Google, Bing, and Yahoo. By accessing APIs from Wikipedia, Reddit, and specialized archives, the tool provides diverse search results free from mainstream media algorithmic bias.

crx.me· search engines· google· privacy· meta-search

2:18:27 Obviously, because those with a iPhone X. Yes 70% United States 6% Canada 5% UK 4% Netherlands 3% Australia You got to step up your game people you gotta buy your iPhone Huh? Interesting isn't it yeah It's too bad that they only do that for the new phone because you really don't it doesn't the numbers are useless Yeah They are pretty useless I'll agree Pretty useless. I got three things that relate to Trump and then i'll be done with that The first is Andrew Stein He's a democrat isn't he? A huge democrat like a massive democrat fat guy you mean he's kind of fat, I don't know Andrew Stein I don't know Andrew Stein offhand Oh, I think he's uh, let me see maybe

2:19:22 Let me consult the book of knowledge here. Which I want to point out, I've been using that crx dot me that I told you about... Oh yeah! You know what? I gotta get into the habit of using that more. Now you can set it as default in your browser You can just go to your browser say change how to do it. Yeah, right because it's already in there But here's the cool is yes in there. Here's the whole thing Yes It is I'm gonna look right now, but just keep talking. It's not on my browser and what are you using?

2:20:00 Firefox? Hmm, interesting. Andrew Stein is an American Democratic politician who served on the New York City Council and was its last president and Manhattan Borough President. Stein's father Jerry Finkelstein was the multi-millionaire publisher of New York Law Journal among other publications. Andrew Stein shortened his name when he entered politics. So anyway back to the CRX I turned off Google Bing and Yahoo So I turned on pretty much everything else. It's like 70 search engines that this meta-search engine will access Yeah, but don't the other search engines just use Google? Well here's...I don't know but here's the...no no absolutely not For instance you can access the Wikipedia search engine they have an API You can access the Reddit search engine they have an API so no and there are many of them They're very specific search engines That's what i like so much about it Hold on im gonna tell which ones they are

2:20:59 But here's, so by turning off Bing and Google and Yahoo my results have been phenomenal. I mean this it for some reason feels...I just feel calmer when even looking at the results page i can't quite explain what it is But it's it gives you good results. It doesn't give you like, you have to go five pages of the same damn news story You know and it's just the lies or what let's just call them whatever The m5m messaging is that just repeated over and over here's what I have selected CCC TV which is kind of cool So yeah, you're getting news from China

2:21:40 There's... what are all these? You could even specifically search Pirate Bay, Subtitle Seeker, Torrance. I have those turned off. I'd turn those on if I were you! I know you like that kind of stuff. No I don't! There is a... I dunno what NYAA is or Kick-Ass or INA, DigBT, DIGBT. I just turned them all on And I'm just telling you turning off Google Bing and Yahoo is phenomenal Even though it kind of messes with our jingle imaging But yeah, so that so you can do here general archive.is Wikipedia currency DDG definitions wiki data I also turned off duck-duck go

2:22:34 Atom Online, which I think is etymology. Library Genesis, Quant, IXQuick Swiss Cows...I have no idea what they are. They're probably all specialized search engines that just target a certain area Yes and we can do the same- I hope someone will do it with our No Agenda show notes because there's an API you just tie into it and it delivers these results back It's mind boggling! It's the way to circumvent the entire shebang May just be me, but I'm excited about it. Maybe you. It might be you So anyway Andrew Stein he's a politician He's a Democrat. He is talking about Trump. The racist! 1973 Laura and it's ridiculous if it wasn't so serious it would be laughable

CHAPTER 19 / 33 Discussion

Andrew Stein on Trump, Joy Reid Interview

Democratic politician Andrew Stein defended Donald Trump against charges of racism, citing Trump's history of suing Palm Beach clubs to admit black members. Conversely, MSNBC's Joy Reid is criticized for shutting down a guest who attempted to discuss the Clinton Foundation's activities in Haiti, labeling the claims as "crazy conspiracy theories."

andrew stein· joy reid· msnbc· racism· donald trump

2:23:16 uh... this guy doesn't have an ounce of racism in any judges people on the merits you know i'm the first night he took over mar alargo i think it was eighty five he said to me you know it's is crazy that they don't admit blacks and any other fancy clubs and not in palm beach and i'm going to work you know if that i'm gonna change that i think he sued the city upon beach because of it uh... get off and haiti dot there's a big big storm in 1980. I raised a lot of medical supplies, I was borough president then of Manhattan and we were going to send them to Haiti but we didn't have the plane. I called Donald Trump 1-2-3 he gave us a plane to take all the supplies over. The largest congregation in Queens Reverend Flakes Church

2:24:07 They needed some money for some of the poor parishioners. I called a lot of our local friends in Manhattan, they couldn't care less and what happened was that I called Donald Trump and right away he wrote a check employment is the lowest it's been since 1972 and Hispanic employment is the lowest that has been in 17 years. So this guy should get, the president should get a bigger black vote because he has done more for African Americans than any president of recent history thats for sure I just looked it up an indeed I have a Wall Street Journal report about him suing Palm Beach over this The racist

2:24:51 Huh. Well this information should be squashed. Well the reason why they didn't cut him off is because if the guy was a Republican then yeah for sure it'd be like, uh... Get him off! Go to break! Because we see that all the time. So he's a Democrat, they're waiting for him to turn her back... probably they're probably like he's gonna turn this into something good wait for it oh damn yeah That would be my impression I got the democrat on there and i'm expecting him to turn this boat around he's always leading up to something that's going to be a whopper yes and you just let them go and then all of a sudden there's no whopper just his praises and everything brother was this CNN? uh i believe so yeah Oh My God! They blew it No! I'm sorry

2:25:32 Maybe it was Fox and that would make sense then. Oh, you just ruined the whole thing Yeah well I'd make mistakes but this is MSNBC for sure this is Joy Reid This is what I played a little bit of earlier This is a consultant to the White House saying that he's not a racist And you know he would never say shithole What was... how did you feel when you heard those comments? We didn't actually hear him say those words this is something fake When I read him, yeah this is the biggest fake news story of the week and it's interesting to sit back and watch that people are... By the way that's a big mistake if you're being grilled by hostile media. Don't pull out the fake news meme! It's dumb. Yes I agree. It makes you look stupid

2:26:17 You could always use the word misleading. That's a soft word that liberals like to, and so both sides of you say misleading would be beautiful in this context. So I think that's a mistake and we'll include that in our Curry-DeVore consulting group training manual when I write it. Yeah this is the biggest fake news story of the week and it's interesting to sit back so angry over things that the president didn't say they're more angry than they are at the Clintons for getting rich off of poor Haitians you can ask all the Haitian Americans that have been protesting against the Clintons and The Clinton Foundation for years. You could also ask Klaus Eberwien, the former Haitian government official That has all the dirt on The Clinton Foundation Oh wait actually you can't ask him because he mysteriously committed suicide

2:27:03 the day before he was supposed to testify. What are we talking about? This is nuts! Let me ask you a question, Stephanie. Did you get talking points before you came here from the RNC or the White House? It's interesting that yesterday Mark Burns who was the surrogate that we had on on the Trump side yesterday tried to roll out that same Clinton stuff did you get talking points before you came here Joy, I didn't get talking points. This is something I've covered for many years. Hold on a second. Let me...I don't know you Stephanie we don't know each other but let me just explain to you this is not Fox News We're not gonna play the game of rolling out crazy conspiracy theories in the answers to my questions It's not a crazy conspiracy theory If you have an answer to my question I'm going to let you give it But what your'e NOT gonna do is throw out crazy conspiracy theories to try and take us off track So I'm gonna let you pause for a minute

2:27:50 to the side for just a moment. I'm going to go to my other guests because they're more familiar with the way that we do things here." Oh, my God! That... There's your totalitarian regime right there. How dare she? Yeah. That's-that's...I find that incredibly offensive. Well they put her in uh... They brought that woman on for that purpose so Joy could do her thing Yes and it still remains offensive Victoria Kagan-Noodleman. Oh yeah! Hey, she's resurfaced John She is back she's got a new gig Victoria Noodleman Newman Kagan do you know where she landed with her new gig? I don't like it Yeah, he said... She has now been named the CEO of Center for A New American Security Yeah this is a Soros operation I believe Big Soros operation and people on the board Richard Armitage

2:28:49 No, Jed Johnson is on there. Joe Lieberman James Murdoch This is a this is a drinking club of epic proportion But if you look at their home page CNAS org CNA s dot-org Pretty quick you see what they're all about Russia this Russia that's Russia future of us Russia relations Defense strategies it is the war Club a bunch of war people and This is a big group. Yeah, yeah they got lot of money this is hush money so they don't talk about anything but what there supposed to talk about the other ones are the talking points although I'm sure that woman did you know this talking points thing that was the worst interview and then women should never do an interview but they find people like that put them on MSNBC make fools themselves I've always thought if your going through let's say your democrat

2:29:47 and you want to put, and you got some candidate your running. And you wanna... You yourself decide to create a debate format. And you have the person in just some sort of debate with this guy, your candidate. You find someone who's clinically insane to debate them. And then you make a big deal about this debate that is going to happen. How does this relate to Noodleman? No it relates to the clip That woman who came on is like a bad person to break up the show unless you're trying to make her look like an idiot Yeah, I kind of moved on. No. I'm sorry didn't I was stuck at the past? Yes, I was still with noodleman okay. I'm back to noodlemen now Well, I just want to remind everybody and you know what this fine CEO Just some of her words

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Google Diversity Lawsuit, Internal Culture

An internal whistleblower at Google describes a "terrifying" lack of diversity of thought and a hostile environment for conservative employees. The note corroborates claims made in the James Damore lawsuit regarding the influence of "Social Justice Warriors" (SJWs) within the company's HR and engineering departments.

google· james damore· diversity· silicon valley· sjw

2:30:49 Hope everybody's happy there with her as the CEO of CNAS, as they announce the 2018 Next Generation National Security Fellows. I'm gonna follow this group. Well you should! She's gained a few pounds our Vicky has... She was getting big at the end of Obama's administration This is not new thing. She's unhappy I had a note which i didn't get to read on the last show. You know, there's about the diversity or lack of diversity in Silicon Valley and we had this guy who wrote the memo about how diversity was going awry within Google it was you know the googly way

2:31:43 He got fired for it and I think he's suing Google now. Yeah, he is suing them for false... So we have people working everywhere and we got a note from a Googler that I wanted to share that in the morning Adam John I'm a low-level dude named Ben at Google I've been with Google since August 2010 I'm a corporate operations engineer which is an engineer that handles IT operations within the Internet of Google From desktop support to operating systems to video conferencing, etc. Basically we support everything that Googlers use to be douchebag... I mean to get the job done The company has changed dramatically in the past few years Everything in the lawsuit is legit and provides fairly good context Some of the posts in the appendix are from co-workers in the same building as me It's scary

2:32:28 I'm more a conservative individual that breaks the traditional dogma in the company. I don't believe the traditional media narratives and do my own research, including listening to you and John. A few of my co-workers who are sane but know about my political leanings but I don't talk much about it with my coworkers because I am worried about being lynched The lack of diversity of thought is terrifying since the squeaky wheel gets the grease, the squeakiest are the SJWs who have their feelings hurt by anyone questioning the world as they see it. It's like being stuck in dimension B machine every single day and Sparky the dog isn't even there! I've attempted to transfer departments several times in the five years. I've been here and I'm not saying where he's in a different office and have been rejected every time even though my performance reviews are strong, I don't know if it's because I'm on some type of blacklist but it's certainly possible. I don't dare speak my thoughts to anyone that I don't trust completely or I could end up in the HR office and fired has been very stressful being stuck in a dimension B echo chamber hearing everyone bitch about Trump and everyone who dares question them

2:33:30 Think the tech companies are going to take a huge hit in the next 12 months and their stocks plummeting will begin the second Tech bubble and take down the market again I don't know about that But a lot of people are going to be up six Creek without a paddle And I don't want to be a part of it. The entire company is a dumpster fire I don't know how things get done Oh, by the way The AI is total bullshit and it's a glorified state machine you are right Nice. We are right, yeah. I like that. Well his point is...I have a clip which kind of underscores this point when he says the tech scene is going to get screwed and cut in specifically California play this raids coming to California clip

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California Immigration Raids, Homelessness Crisis

Rumors of major ICE raids in Northern California have prompted defensive letters from Senators Dianne Feinstein and Kamala Harris. Meanwhile, the state faces a worsening homelessness crisis, with massive tent cities appearing in Los Angeles and Orange County. The hosts suggest a "borderline war" could break out between the wealthy tech elite and the growing indigent population.

ice· california· sanctuary cities· homelessness· jerry brown

2:34:15 There are rumblings tonight that federal immigration agents could be about to launch a major raid throughout Northern California looking for undocumented immigrants. The San Francisco Chronicle is reporting that a source is telling reporters there the raid would send a message to sanctuary cities KTVU's Rob Roth spoke with an immigration attorney and a concerned business owner today, and he joins us now in the newsroom with more Rob Julie, that San Francisco Chronicle source says U.S. immigration officials are looking to arrest more than 1500 undocumented people in the Bay Area in an upcoming sweep. Late today California Senators Dianne Feinstein and Kamala Harris wrote a letter to the acting director of ICE asking for full accounting on how immigration raids are prioritized and carried out. Advocates for immigrants say if a major raid does happen they'll be ready to wage a legal battle.

2:35:06 You think they're really gonna go into Google? That one Googly way. I don't know about Google because they might, all i know is that this a vendetta and that's why Kamala Harris and Feinstein are concerned about it cause they know it. Anyone in there right... They don't talk about this on the news but I can tell you This is a vendetta California is in this crosshairs of the Trump administration for being a douchebag state. And then to go on with it, so we're going to be sanctuary state? That was the end! That was just that was definitely a screw you from Jerry Brown to the federal government because everybody's a sanctuary city already including Berkeley... Did you know that California hired Eric Holder to do all that?

2:35:51 I didn't know this. I didn't know this either Yeah, they hired Eric Holder to do all the legal work particularly the sanctuary city stuff He's running that well This will be funny. So the point is that the Californians and the crossroads, it's going to get it up the butt and this is gonna hurt everything in California already there are some interesting negative editorial showing up in certain papers like the LA Times about the homelessness problem in California number one in the country Did you see that video I sent you this morning? No, you won't see until you read all my batch emails When I do the batch I'll read it The guy drove

2:36:30 Let me see, I have it here. He drove his bike with a video camera for several miles there towards Venice. Oh this is in LA? Yeah and it's just rows and rows of tents all the way. Disturbing! Let me just see where exactly that was... And by the way, there's a question hasn't been answered we have not discussed on the show Yeah angel Stadium Anaheim along the Santa Ana River. It's 10 minutes this video ten minutes of 1010 minutes Discusses this one thing on the show is the word you keep repeating where all the tents coming from apparently some government or non-governmental organist NGO is yeah passing out tents and

2:37:27 And do-gooders are going, oh you need a tent. Somehow... This was our idea by the way! I think you might be right but these tents are uh And so they're pitching these tents because this is a form of the house. And it's unbelievable around here, the amount of tents there are and yeah, the whole state is becoming tent city and so this editorial in The LA Times people should look it up talks about that we have the worst homeless situation and we have the big separation of the rich in Hillsborough and meanwhile there's people throwing stuff at the bus that we talked about, these buses. So a borderline war is gonna break out and it's gonna be targeting the rich and I think...I've said this before

2:38:16 that I think the people who live in Woodside and Hillsborough, in particular. And Atherton in California should worry well when you see this video you see so there are these video these tents are all lined up along a fence near the river and right behind the fence you see big beautiful homes Can you imagine if somebody, and this is possible. You can assume that they're worried about this too. And you can assume that because of the police state that we're in it may not happen but a leader, a tough guy, Maoist type guy who knows how to rabble rouse and knows how to get people all worked up into a frenzy to the point where they are carrying torches and pitchforks

2:39:02 comes along and rails everybody up. Because one thing, one thing will happen somebody will pass a law some cop will beat somebody up and kill him something there'll be some trigger point if do some leader or come along natural born leader come along and they're gonna go and start killing people putting sticks on heads on a stick all through can you imagine Woodside with everybody boom a stick with a head on it ooh Yeah, this is a possibility. You had to boom that we have a... We got a boom count. I'll tell you yes i can imagine that and I'll tell you something else I believe this is going to happen in Austin and I'm not happy about what I'm seeing California has moved to Texas and Austin has become the new kind of tech mecca we have Apple here The building next to ours is Google

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Austin Homelessness, NGO Profit Centers

The rapid growth of the tech sector in Austin, Texas, has coincided with a visible increase in the homeless population downtown. The segment critiques the "client" model used by NGOs and the city's failure to address the issue while prioritizing entertainment districts for events like South by Southwest.

austin· texas· homelessness· mobile loaves and fishes· gentrification

2:40:00 Um, and you know so we have more high-end vehicles. You know the number of times I hear a Ferrari or some other high end car revving its engine and peeling out downtown. Ah it's like douchebags stole a douchebaggery but We've also, because we're a sanctuary city now we have 6,000 homeless in the downtown area alone and really no programs. There's certainly no government programs yeah there's a... I can't afford it! A five million dollar fund that goes to you know do we have a number of NGOs and some very good ones Mobile Loaves & Fishes who built, I think we talked about that build little tiny home place but i mean

2:40:44 I cannot walk outside my building here on the 2nd Street area without either ignoring the homeless people or telling them no, or giving them something. It's continuously there and they don't know what to do. They have no idea about the policy. They're really not addressing the issue. They're just stepping over people just like San Francisco Yep, and there's no compassion the people are douchebags. I'm sorry No, they were the super rich in a Bay Area the ones that have especially the Silicon Valley types That mean maybe they contribute to the symphony or something like that But they do nothing for the poor if they don't care if they don't like seeing him it's very kind of mock upper-class

2:41:30 a faux upper class, which is they all think they're in the upper class when they're not. A lot of them are overnight millionaires, overnight billionaires in fact and you end up with kind of a haughty fake-haughtiness that's not deserved. Of course it's never deserved let me stop there! I mean the upper class or true upper class twits in England most of them are poor anyway It's not a matter money its a matter birthright It's very disturbing what's going on here in Austin. I'm really not happy, you know? What can we do about this?" You're in like a ritzy little area and kind of brand new... your thing is brand new! So new that it's not even in the micro world. Well, it is now. It's in it now but isn't it brand-new? Yes, it's brand new so when you're surrounded by homeless already yes sir

2:42:26 Sleeping in you know, and it was 20 degrees the other night. Texas, 20 degrees and you know... And the biggest problem is they have a facility where I think 100 men can sleep there overnight maybe 200 which is not sufficient it's no women can sleep there this is and it's a building where if you look at all the marketing materials that talk about their clients we help our client see the homeless are clients not homeless but clients. Yes! And why are Money. Yes, and they need more clients there it does not behoove the system certainly on Austin is not behove them to reduce the number of clients know they need clients Clients means money and it's just grown and grown and grown but this particular facility... It costs its a profit center. This particular facility

2:43:22 right on the edge of the entertainment district, 6th Street here in Austin. Which is very important for our South by Southwest and Formula One. The economy in general? Right! But people don't like it because A.) they can't expand the entertainment district without displacing this and nobody wants to have this facility anywhere not in my backyard hypocritical a-holes here unbelievable anyway You can play that you can play the pet peeve thing No, gee that's one. I think it was good enough yeah i don't know where it is oh the new system yeah well let's look at don't play it well now now nope i can't play it okay a little housekeeping uh one i wanted to thank

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YouTube Human Reviewers, Content Filtering

Google announced it will hire 10,000 human reviewers to screen YouTube content for "brand safety" after automated AI systems failed to satisfy advertisers. The move effectively demonetizes smaller creators and creates a "permission-based" platform. The hosts argue this validates the No Agenda independent funding model.

youtube· google· content moderation· advertising· ai

2:44:12 Sir Adrian Archer for a new domain name forward try goat.com we have recommended goat being handed yes, we have I would meet you know I recommend it constantly and i'm going to put all these links in the show notes Brian I shall refer to him as Brian has made a torrent a seeded torrent for all 1,000 episodes of this show. They will be published after the show is out then he'll add the 1000th episode. Who's keeping it live? Brian must be. Brian is yes and so we has a number of seeds which he sent me where they are but the action URLs where you can get the torrent is 1000.shutupslaves.com

2:45:01 1000.420yolo.co and 1000.bringyourwallet.com I have no idea why he chose that Are these magnet links or torrent links? Magnets probably This, I don't know...I'm not real big on this I don't know a lot about the torrents But it's new thing The magnets is what you want because it has got It's like an encapsulation Yes, I understand. He said, I've been maintaining the noagenda github for several years. I'd never seen this we have a github. Noagenda github dot org Nice! Yeah and he's been updating the Torrent archive repository weekly for two years This is not my first rodeo He says and it clearly is not And we appreciate that Brian That is... there you go You go into M5M organization say hey let's package up all 1000 episodes people will scatter

2:45:59 If they can even find all episodes within the m5m organization that possible government can't even keep the moon landing tapes a And then this last news story before we take our break and as a reason for it This was now I like CNBC because they will report on news in With a different angle and we had the face bag and the tweeters And everybody was on on the hill the congressional hearing about fake news fake news How are we gonna do what are you gonna? Do and yeah, we have to restrict stuff. You saw some of this already happening with with YouTube as Google has now cut off tens hundreds God knows thousands hundreds of thousands of

2:46:43 smaller youtubers from monetization unless you have I think a thousand subscribers and X amount of these rules yeah and that these are new these are new rules or newly enforced. And this MS, the CNBC report kind of sums up what this is all really about. We're hearing a lot actually right now in this hearing about how it's not just about artificial intelligence and technology, all of these companies are increasingly using humans to make sure that there is no offensive or violent or in the case at this hearing today on terrorism I love this right off-the-bat because the lie of Google staring us right in the face and face back

2:47:26 They can't actually do it. They don't have AI, they don't have machine learning... ...they have to get wetware in order to filter out stories that may be inappropriate wrong or so-called fake news. You're looking behind the curtain right now! They can't do it! Extremist content being spread on their platforms So Google announced back in December that they were going to be hiring 10,000 people and just yesterday they explain what those people are going to be doing. For their preferred channels, so those are the channels that have advertising on them, they're gonna have every video reviewed by a human. So just imagine the volume of videos that are gonna be examined. They said all of those videos are gonna be reviewed and not so no ads are put up

2:48:11 on a channel or on a video that might have an offensive or extremist video on that. So, that's what Google announced and this is part of the big push to make sure brands advertisers feel comfortable with content on their platform no advertiser wants there brand next to something a video supporting ISIS so thats really sort of part of this whole conversation here And this is, of course after a year where there were a lot of questions about brand safety both on Google as well as Facebook. Facebook just in the hearing right now noted that they have 7500 human reviewers of their content. They're also going to be doubling their efforts and ramping up the number of people who are involved

2:48:50 Well, the conclusion is a little off. Because what it's really about is the advertisers do not want anything. Not that is not brand safe brand safe brand safe you heard it there in the report and Google is so freaked out about it that they're hiring 10,000 people to this by hand because you know The technology just doesn't exist to do it But what is it, we used to have a formula if you wanted to calculate one employee was their salary times two and they had added more because of the space they occupy and other resources at the company. Yeah expensive. And so what could yeah you could say an employee is what? A typical employee maybe... So maybe those jobs are those probably are all illegals

2:49:46 I don't think so. Because the illegals, I don't think you can analyze these videos. Do they think there's a $100,000 job? No, they'll pay them 50 grand max. Okay, fifty thousand times ten thousand... how much is that? It's a lot. Three...ten thousand one two three four one two three four which amounts to like 100 million dollars That's not bad I don't think the cost is the issue. It doesn't really matter to them, no. But the fact that... Because here how many hours of video per day are uploaded? Oh millions i guess! No 50 000. Is that the number? Yeah

2:50:42 So 50,000 hours of video per day is uploaded and they got 10,000 people. That means each of them has to watch and analyze five hours a video And that counts for what that days uploading is There's a backlog They'll never get to 300 hours of video are uploaded to YouTube every minute I have here Okay, well I got the 50 thousand per day. Good enough and So 10,000 people can barely I mean I guess you can listen watch five hours of video And then you know you got three hours left to watch some more because you're talking about an eight-hour workday But then there's a lunch break so he talking about a typical six hour You're not getting anywhere you need to hire 25,000 people and then they all have to have the same idea maybe what are they gonna?

2:51:33 It's ridiculous. I'm kind of happy about it though, I'm happy they're doing this and i'm happy they have to hire people now...it also removes all the riff-raff stupid videos there's a lot of dumb videos. It's not going to remove anything they're not going to be able to get to those stupid videos that's what I mean because you'll see they'll be deprecated you won't see them Well then you do this, well here's problem number two. That's good for us I mean i'm tired of shitting videos No I think it's great for us but problem number two...I'm looking at the YouTubers There's a lot of redundant uploads. It's like somebody will get bounced and say, well let's upload it three more times in three different ways from three different accounts because I run into a bunch of videos on YouTube you must too everybody does go why is this? This is horrible they should have been taken down years ago yeah it's got porn they got porn out on the YouTubes damn them! You must not have your safe search on

2:52:34 It's the whole thing is a disaster. It's a disaster, what can I say? You know what they're gonna do one of these days? I hate to say this somebody some bean counter is going to come out and say we're losing our ass on this it's becoming an overhead because but they're having hire all these people in other things you're gonna shut down YouTube I think they will. I think they'll shut down the general upload, you know? You'll have to be approved or some kind of permission or some kind of partnering program... Well, I know how you feel when you have to subscribe and pay $50 a year for uploads. Oh that will work! That will work! But I just want to point out everybody who's crying in their milk over the good demonetized

2:53:16 Idiots how many to how many years we've been telling you boys? That's the voice collectively of all these people on reddit do a time mark do a time mark You can know your acting now, I'm laughing through it You have to go outside the stupid system. You don't need to participate in that this show is proof I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda imagine all the people who could do that oh yeah, that'd be fab We have a number of people to thank it's going take a little longer than usual because they had these special offers at $100 offer and some others

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Final Donation Credits, Knighting Ceremony

The hosts complete the reading of donation notes for Episode 1000, acknowledging contributors from the Netherlands, Canada, and the United States. They perform a formal knighting ceremony for several high-tier producers, including Sir Daniel Eber and Sir Sean of Silicon Valley.

donations· knighthood· value-for-value· producers· credits

2:54:04 I do have a letter, I want to make sure to read at the end. Which is requiring some jingles and things but there'll probably be a few in here that we'll read out loud starting with Gary Reed talking about Read Out Loud $155.41 he's congratulating us from Elder Grove BC and this is on par 155 Canadian money so it's... He needs a de-douching. Okay... You've been de-douched! And he says in his note that he loves that Dutch voice which I also admire Which one? This one? Yeah Oh, that's my best voice Henry Hernandez in San Pedro California 150. He has a couple of callouts here we'll read those

2:54:54 He's got a nighting. Hopefully see if he's on the night list while I read who gets dedouche or douche douche bagged Please send a douchebag shout out to my sister Glenda Hernandez Good friend trucker Frank Casada Right Onward. I'm assuming he's on the list? Yes. Sean Zinsmeister... Hold on, let me just read the rest of the note otherwise it'll come back to us. Additionally, I'd like a Jobs Karma give-it-to at the end shout out given to friend and fellow knight Arthur Sir Nacho of The Citadel here is hoping he gets serious dude name Ben position thank you again for all you do please knight me sir dude named Henry Knight Of San Pedro okay

2:55:46 We have a lot of computer guys that listen to this show. Yes, they're all named Ben strangely. Sean Zinsmeister in Mountain View. That's why when they do meetups... I want to say quick note to the Michigan group that my son and his wife and the baby will be in Michigan for the Sunday Meetup. Yeah she said her dad is having an operation so they are going back there to hold his hand. 14432 Mountain View And listen since show one finally gets me to knighthood see this in blue. This is not in purple no because Yeah, why don't ask tell me why? Don't know

2:56:35 Okay, Marty gas. Well he did ask he said you want because it because he's being knighted He is just started new gig he wanted some jobs karma Yeah I'll give you the but he also asked for a huntsman so I'll just do the Huntsman now and the jobs Karma later We haven't played that in so long Misty Gaskell one two three four five Adam Ward one two three to one who's your and he's in the UK somewhere Pete hashdo 11111 did I miss anybody? Nope. He's in Holland he started listening to No Agenda around the time Adam ruined my favorite radio station Arrow Classic Rock Thanks Obama That's the one that we burned to the ground Yes, that story needs to be retold sometime Okay Not now

2:57:28 Sebastian de Stigter. Stigger? Stichter! Stichter is also in Holland. Shout out to my smoking hot wife Lena, and my son Mika and baby Elsa who all share the enjoyment of listening to the show during Saturday morning breakfasts I got a note from a Micah with the same spelling as a male he says for men it's pronounced Mi-ka not Meeka you keep pronouncing it Meeka he says. I'm wrong yeah well I did it wrong too Micah Yeah Micah Janice Kang. Dame, I think. Yes it is Dame Janice in Milpitas. The toast mistress of the round table. Sir Chard of the tiny cars $100 and one cent. Sir James Dobler Baron of Class G airspace. What is that? That's where you can fly or not depending on what you're flying. Oh general aviation is what the g stands for yes

2:58:28 You know, that's a good question. I bet you that's what it means. I actually don't and i think its just you know we name it A-C-E...I'm telling ya! Could be? Now I should know this. I don't actually know if it is named after him. I know thats why im kind of gloating here. I dont'know. Mr Alex Bortok Night Of The Northern Launch Pad $100.01 I don't remember if that was done as a thing or not, the one cent. Now the rest of $100 was a donation for the show's 100... there is a dime donation 10 cents per thousand episodes. So I'm going to name names and locations. Class G airspace is, I knew this part, it's uncontrolled. It isn't charted but it's not named after General Aviation they just have numbers. Yeah they have A B C D E and then E.

2:59:22 I don't have F, I don't think. A-B-C-D-E-G and you don't think it stands for general aviation? No because general aviation can fly in almost all airspace. Ah okay. Dom got a name and location with the $100 donors. Class A is only for Airbus class B is only for Boeing class C is only for Cessnas and class E is for experimental and G for General yeah we fixed Airbus, and Boeing have their own areas. No of course not! Of course not! Oh you're doing a little humor on the fly? Yeah yeah unscripted. It's unbelievable how good you are Jessica Stobie parts unknown Alex these are $100 donors saying congratulations

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3:00:56 Yeah, but he's from Bangalore but he doesn't live there. I believe you used to live in someplace else well maybe isn't it? No! He says hi i'm one of those two cheap donors from India this is the other guy oh the other guy your show has been a life changer for me in many ways i am indebted to you guys forever this is the best i could do now given the current exchange rates. Kaushik from Bangalore nice well thanks Kaushik awesomeness Lynn Fogwell, parts unknown. Greg Golembiski the second Daniel Klinger in Muskegon Illinois Michigan there's a meetup on Sunday Daniel Peter Newman Dr.. Peter Newman dr. Peter Newman actually the way it's written on here says Peter Newman Drive Like it's the street get it yeah got it kusnak to Czechoslovakia Us or Switzerland that Switzerland

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3:02:45 We have in Deutschland, we have a plumbing company here named after him. Dale Norman in Cherville, Indiana. Michael Stulak in Hobart, Indiana. Adriana Oporto, named after the Oporto. Gregory Zayachuk in Mount Kisco New York. Joel Donaldson in Elko Nevada. Michael Auslander in Rochester, New York. Pat Tilley, parts unknown Jason Howard and a lot of people in Hocusin Hocussin Deutschland Robert Roberts in Medford Oregon Barron Sir Richard Gardner in Chicago Cynthia Hickson in Sugar Land Texas might be a dame by now Glenn Stolfer Andrew

3:03:39 Shushetsky. Yeah, I would say Zhetsi. Yeah, it's probably something weirder than that. Jet ski and Andrew Jesse in Alexandria, Minnesota always be known as such. Yes sir Alexander helper of the man from afar in Houston He says you're my only source of news good John Adams 100 bucks Spencer Hawkins Laura Wilson and Sammamish Washington some mammoth she says Brian and Suzy Morris and Liberty Maine Zachary Gilbrecht James Buell and Spring Hill Tennessee

3:04:19 Julian Barlow in Farnsworth, Great Britain. Farnsworth actually. Bradley Shelnut over here in Mountain View where Google is Donald Borosky Sir Donald Borosky he is the... He sends us the Starfleet command. He has a Starfleet command note here This from the Federation of Planets Yeah United Federation of Planets official letterhead Pay attention Gentlemen Two things. One, here are a thousand dimes in celebration of Show 100. Thank you. Two the check is in the mail as one of the oldest excuses in the book but I really did mail it checked for $333.33 last month apparently and never showed up if it doesn't appear by the middle of February I will remake that check and mail it in then cheers and beers! Sir Donald of The Fire Bottles all right thank you Baron of Spokane County

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3:06:41 St. Louis, yes. Thank you for your courage. Andrew Walker in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Julie from Coldwater6006 she sent a good note to read which I will read at the end of the reads I'm not gonna read it now, but it's a note that definitely needs to be read because he's got its Complimentary in a very creative way you really just don't have it there. Do you gotta go? No I have it That proves I have it no I do have it right here I can read it now But it is a little long so one to read it separately read it separately Scott McKenzie

3:07:17 $60 this is your cut of the royalties from the sales of Red Cell, the latest No Agenda novel. Also to celebrate Show 1000 one day in Gitmo Nation will be free in the Kindle store on the 17th and 18th January go get your copy now! Yes, go look up Scott McKenzie on Amazon and buy his books. His books are great anyone who... They're very entertaining as well right? There's a lot of no agenda that's a compliment Scott take that one. That's a compliment when Dvorak says is well-written, that's a compliment I'll leave it right there and we go on to bash scar Dan Dona Love you guys hocus locus 5555 by the way was also 5555 her bass car He has a long note. Well what's interesting about his note is he put together something called no agenda the movie and

3:08:09 Yeah, it's on Vimeo and also on the YouTube's Link to it. Yes of course is a link to it And it's what he's done is he's created this movie 40 minutes Of 1,000 show slides so that's our album art oh It's very it's actually watchable nice yeah, and it's you know it's It could start epileptic fits you know it to be careful. Hopefully it won't but I think you could run this in a bar on the back bar You can just have us playing with a video projector and just run it over and over again Yeah, or in your bedroom chicks dig it

3:08:49 Yes, chick magnet. What are you showing? No agenda art. Hey what do you think huh? Pretty cool huh? Turn it off! I think that's what Aziz Ansari tried like hey baby come over here watch my no agenda movie Dean Roker, 5510. Sir Payne in the S, our buddy in Richmond Virginia 5432. Sir Dirtbag Dave in Concord California 5150. Sir Ben of Oakland 5135 Andrew Benz and Arnold Missouri 5001 And now we go to the $50 donors which was actually what was that? That was something that had to do with the show with 1000 nickels I guess

3:09:35 So 50,000 nickels is 50 bucks. And so all these old people I think half of them are probably in on that here we go again $50 Rob Warren Matthew Swadek Susan Clay camp and Dacula Georgia John Campin antlers Oklahoma he comes in a lot Sir Chris James and Sturgis Michigan sir Chris Travis the York and Hollowell Maine David David Lancho in Elmhurst, New York. Allan LaFontaine in Gatineau, Quebec. Tyson Blondal, parts unknown. Sir Eric V.M., baronet of the valley in Van Nuys California. Steeler Gromel, 50. Sir Brad Dougherty, Docker-dy!

3:10:30 Ventor City, New Jersey. Aaron Held Kirk Russell in Ottawa Ontario Anonymous G in Raleigh North Carolina Joel Deruan in Savannah Georgia Leon Rogerson in Los Angeles Robert Booth in Galveston Texas Tony Tanzi in Tigard Oregon Meet up with the Duke up there Grand Duke, Joseph Cromer, Kurdilene Idaho. Vincent Benedict P Castro in Maracana City Philippines

3:11:08 Daolet Zanguzan in Bellevue, Washington. Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta. Bill LeClair, capital L small a in Riverdale Michigan. Sheila Demore, I think it's Dame Sheila DeMordoran Israel Cazares Scott Lavender in Montgomery Texas Matthew Hardy and Gold Coast Queensland Australia. Ian Odom in Weed, California That's where I need to live! He needs an F-cancer for his dad who passed away this November of course. He's a millennial he says i'm a millennial listening for almost two years now still a douchebag! Not anymore. You've been de-douched

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3:12:48 Yeah, sounds like feedback. Simon Smith in Middleborough UK Jack Connors in Helena Montana Sir Bob of the dudes name Ben 73 is NC4RG Hey, yeah. 73's. Can I do a 5 alpha Charlie? Charlie? Micah! Micah Miller. Mike Miller. Micah in Bethel Pennsylvania. I think he's the one who sent me the note on how to pronounce his name. Chris Dugan in Wichita Kansas Ronald Lahrmann in... Ronald Lahrman is Elmir. Elmir. Hey, I can do my Dutch voice because it's becoming a knight

3:13:37 Yeah, he's got a long note here. Hi Adam and John! This completes my donation towards the knighthood. Congratulations! Thousand episodes of The Best Podcast in the Universe I started listening back when episode numbers only consisted of two digits And after being hit in the mouth by my brother sometime around May 2010 I started donating $5 a month to keep this podcast alive Within a year I switched to 1111 subscription That is value for value man This $50 donation will push me beyond the thousand dollars mark straight into knighthood. If not taken, I would like to be known as Knight Below Sea Level. I'd like a shout out to my brother Dennis and my friend Mike both listeners to this amazing podcast Can I have an F cancer karma for everyone who's battling or has battled this terrible disease? Thank you for your courage Ronald Laarman The Netherlands

3:14:29 And we don't get Academy Awards for this. Just acting. Matthew Drury, Sacramento California Taylor Martin Reinholds Pennsylvania and last but not least our buddy Sir Jeffrey Wingenroth in the town of Saugus Wow what a nice list and of course we thank everybody who came in under $50 Yes, and we always are encouraging people to get on the subscriptions And I can tell you it's a pretty good bet if you try and come in With some support for Sunday show. You might get an executive producership out of org slash and I would like to read the donation from Julie

CHAPTER 25 / 33 Discussion

Peerage Disputes, Therapy Requests

A listener in Brooklyn requests a recommendation for a therapist who is not "stuck in Dimension B" and won't judge her for her political views. Additionally, a dispute over the title "Dame Love and Light" is addressed by the Peerage Committee.

peerage· therapy· brooklyn· community· donations

3:15:13 Sure, I got a couple things to read too. Okay good we this is my only second donation of the show but i really wanted to continue which means i need to donate when i can hopefully my husband and i will find jobs soon so we can afford to bump up our support when i last donated it was just before our wedding on and she sent some photos of the wedding 9 3 2016 My husband thought i donated too much when i sent 93 dollars and 16 cents to the show I thought about calling him out as a douchebag. I knew that donating the show couldn't change the weather patterns or eliminate the risk of precipitation, but since i was having an outdoor wedding without a contingency plan, I was willing to try anything that might help ensure perfect and try anything they would insure a perfect day

3:15:54 So she asked for karma. The karma worked three days before the wedding strong Thunderbirds were thunder birds thunderstorms were in their forecast plus it had been very hot and humid most of the summer the day was perfect There was a low humidity that temperatures around 80 with a cool evening breeze and nearly cloudless sky if I needed any more Convincing that the donation Karma was at play for my special day It came in the form of a surprise from one of my husband's friends he brought a a drone to film the wedding and take pictures. I never expected that! I have enclosed a couple of pictures, yes we had a low budget wedding but it was worth it to be able to enjoy the day with people that matter most in our lives. I wanted to share this story with you since my brothers are the ones who shared no agenda with me!

3:16:39 I'm sending in my second donation, hoping for some jobs, Carmen. We're gonna put that at the end for everybody. Says my husband and I have been struggling to find good jobs and pay our bills. My 39th birthday... Ah! You had to put her on the birthday list. Now you might want to get a pen. My 39th birthday falls on January 18 as well as show 1000. It's today's her birthday. I believe this could be a sign of good things to come." And who is this again? This is Julie. Julie... Just Julie? I guess she's in some town. Well, she only signs Julie and she had Julie-Julie and they gave her a Julie from where did I sign? Did I give her a town? I don't know just Julie Just Julie Okay And she's celebrating today Yeah Do we know her age? 39 39 Alright Okay, I have a note that was titled from A Knight In Need Mmhmm

3:17:33 And we always break for our nights? Crackpot Buzzkill, your knight of gentrified Brooklyn needs some help. I'm looking for a therapist in New York City who won't dismiss me for saying something jokingly like the government's putting chemicals in the water that are turning frogs gay or think that I'm some alt-right Jewish Nazi just because I don't think Cheeto Jesus is the son of Satan I'm hoping that you can or help direct this message to someone in the NA community who can help since it does seem to be large, diverse crew especially New York. I know that politics shouldn't intrude on a therapy session but i'm somewhat embarrassed even asking you two but given the current political climate... ...I'd appreciate all the help I can get and finding the right person to spill my guts too if this catches you at a bad time where you can't help don't worry just a shot in the dark keep on changing lives and mazel tov on show 1000!

3:18:23 So, we believe in therapy. It's good and we want to help him. Brooklyners? Yes, Brooklyn shrink! We could have consulted the book of knowledge. Brooklyn shrink who is not as stuck in dimension B Now was there some other issue between Dame Love and Light and Sherry Laurie? Was there something on a note that I saw that had to deal with? Or was that not for on the show? It showed up on my list. I didn't, uh...I don't know it's not ringing a bell but i do this sound-it's kind of ringing a bell but I'm not sure what it is let's see I got to oh I got it here um I was named Dame Love and Light last year as part of the 10th anniversary shows in show 999 there was a request for a producer to be named Dame Heather of love and light sounds like this is her first title not becoming a baroness so she can't claim the protectorate of love and light unfortunately for heather I beat her to Dame Love and Light

3:19:10 Oh, this is a dispute for the Peerage Committee. Well the way I would do it... You are the Peerage Committee so yeah? Now there's one person named Heather and what's their other ones name? What's her complainers names? There's Sherry Laurie. The complainant? The complaintant, the plaintiff is Sherry Laurie So it would be Dame Sherry Laurie of Love and Light, and Dame Heather of Love and Light. I don't see this being that really drastic. She believes that love and light is a protectorate No. We are determining that a protectorate has to be physical. Has to be geographic location? Yeah, okay unless it's taken light...unless you want just take it lightly Yes I mean You can say as a protector and your protecting but I think the difference is to be the names of people have to be attached in love and light Okay Now if there is a procedure called email

3:20:09 where you can, what is it called when you dispute the findings? You can appeal. That's it. An appeal process. Do we have an appeal process? Yes, yes, well, we have an appeal process that consists of sending a nasty note to me personally With the word appeal all in uppercase! Yes there it is Final update from the back office from The Shill Eric The Shill This was his robotics team, all the kids. They had cool little t-shirts they headed up to Seattle this weekend to battle 30 other teams and hopefully go to the state championships and he wanted to pass on his thanks To the fellow producers who stepped up and made it possible Grand Duke of the Pacific Northwest Dwayne Melanson Sir Herb Lamb Joel Lenoir Tom Caudill Christopher Martin David McCroskey Daniel Warren Mark Hampton Edward Posh Eric Engler And that was it so thank you all very much for helping out

CHAPTER 26 / 33 Discussion

Ashley Banfield vs. Aziz Ansari Accuser

HLN's Ashley Banfield wrote an open letter criticizing the anonymous woman who accused Aziz Ansari of sexual misconduct on a date. Banfield argues the account describes a "bad date" rather than an assault and warns that such claims undermine the Me Too movement. The subsequent "catfight" between Banfield and the 22-year-old reporter Katie Way is discussed.

ashley banfield· aziz ansari· me too· babe.net· feminism

3:21:05 with that. Alright, let me see I got everything set here well ummm...I think we can wrap it up again another show coming up on Sunday please support us at devorak dot org slash n a jobs jobs jobs jobs jobs and jobs lets vote for jobs! You've got karma I'm so thirsty, thirsty And we start off with the belated birthdays. Brian Rodeger says happy birthday to his father Gary, he turned 62 on January 9th. Shortlist otherwise Jack Janusso says happy birthday to his brother Chris, celebrating on January 23rd Audrey Symes Happy Birthday to her smoking hot boyfriend Charlie turns 29 on the 20th and Just Julie turns 39 years old today! Happy Birthday from all you buddies here at The Best Podcast in the Universe! Thank You Josh

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3:23:58 That's right show 1000 on the no agenda show just show 1,000 binary for eight. What's that? Binary binary 48 ah yes, yes 8 um actually I wanted to and now it's time for your sexual harassment update Something interesting happened which you may have followed a little bit But it you really deserved to hear about it And you deserve props I think you called it regarding me too. Yeah, I think you called it at least Tina remembers that and It kind of rang true to me which is and you know when it rings true Is true That's right. It brings true. It is true That you said that this whole hashtag me-too thing would wind up with women Calling each other out and will be women fighting against women yeah

3:25:01 You are so right, and it really came to a head with this babe.net account of the girl who was unnamed or anonymous and went on the date with Aziz Ansari and published it And, you know there's been a big debate about it. You know was it just harassment? How was this harassment? Should...you've heard the debate Ashley Banfield from CNN she thinks she is not on CNN anymore She's on HLN the CNN sister She read an open letter Which I edited down to make it two minutes because about six minutes in length, but just to give you the height Yeah But it was good the whole thing. I thought was really interesting to watch them And I think we should at least listen to these two minutes of it The reporter who wielded those very powerful words oops? I'm sorry that was the wrong one here It is well I'd like to say something here and maybe this is best done in the form of an open letter To Aziz Ansari's accuser ready dear grace not your real name

3:26:06 I'm sorry that you had a bad date. I have had a few myself, they stink! I am sure it must be really weighing on you It's hard being a victim Very painful Just ask anyone who has been on that end of crime and justice I cover them every day, its no picnic But let's take a moment to reflect On what you claim was the worst night of your life You had a bad date Your date got overly amorous After protesting his moves You did not get up and leave right away. You continued to engage in the sexual encounter by your own clear description This was not a rape nor was it a sexual assault By your description, your sexual encounter was unpleasant It did not send you to the police It did not affect your workplace or your ability to get a job So I have to ask you what exactly was your beef? But what you have done in my opinion is appalling

3:27:03 You went to the press with the story of a bad date and you have potentially destroyed this man's career over it right after he received an award for which he was worthy. And now here is where I am going to claim victim, you have chiseled away at a movement that I along with all my sisters in the workplace had been dreaming up for decades A movement that has finally changed an oversexed professional environment, that I too have struggled through at times over the last 30 years in broadcasting. If you're lucky there's a really good chance that you're not going to experience the toxic work environment that the rest of us have endured and that is because of the remarkable progress being made against Harvey Weinsteins and Kevin Spacey's of the world The Me Too Movement has righted a lot of wrongs And it has made your career path much smoother

3:27:57 And here's where I'm guessing it's going to be a long career path. You're 23, I cannot name you publicly and sentence you to a similar career hit as Ansari because you chose to remain anonymous lucky you but as you grow in your photography career really do hope that you remember what you did to someone else's career all because of that bad date that was not a sexual assault That was not sexual harassment by your description And I hope the next time you go on a bad date, you stand up sooner. You smooth out your dress and you bloody well leave because the only sentence that a guy like that deserves is a bad case of blue balls not a Hollywood black ball." So this open letter by itself was interesting and it sparked a lot of debate which was even more interesting to watch but

3:28:49 The whole reason for me playing this is the again to prove your point because you could edit by the way. Thank you Yes, if you left a couple of I did in there which was annoying yeah sorry But I'll be better and be better She received an open letter back my nephew's actually open letter from the journalist And this is where it got fun. The reporter who wielded those very powerful words sent some choice words my way as well. I'm curious about that, what did she say? So and then i want to share this... Gee that wasn't scripted! Because I think this gives us an insight into the caliber of the person who held that nuclear weapon uh that was wielded on Ansari's career. The caliber of this 22 year old young woman and I'm only going to read a slight part of her comments to me

3:29:41 And I assume she fashions herself a feminist in this movement. Ashley, someone who I'm certain no one under the age of 45 has ever heard of... I hope the 500 retweets on The Single News write-up made that burgundy lipstick bad highlights second wave feminist has been really relevant for a little while That's from Katie Way who was on CBS this morning yesterday morning And I think the reason I want to share that is because if you truly believe in the Me Too movement, if you truly believe in women's rights, if you truly believe in feminism. The last thing you should do is attack someone in an ad hominem way for her age? I'm 50 and for my highlights...I was brown haired for a while when I was war correspondent interviewing Yasser Arafat and Afghanistan and Iraq Gaza and the West Bank Google those places

3:30:33 But can you believe that this is a cat fight? Can't bite. Can you believe it? Yeah, ageism and then you got to believe it or lipstick your whore with there was a funny scene and one of the recent blackish Where one of the women, I think it's one of the office scenes. I'm not sure i can't remember exactly. Oh blackish is just hilarious No! I've seen Blackish. I haven't seen the one you're referencing. Okay well they were talking and one of them says well the sisters we gotta put a stop this then it switched over to the white woman that's working or in this scene and she says Well there are few things wrong

3:31:19 She says, first of all we're not sisters. Educated white women hate each other and furthermore she says furthermore I voted for Trump and then the place goes crazy! Oh that's great but it's uh to me although great for the show it's so sad Yeah, and it I'm sorry but women apparently are not all the same Women have different opinions and views and they cannot be just as mean as men. I'm still worse I'm still looking for a was looking for Ashley Banfield clip where she was talking about Trump the orange Cheeto I bet you she slipped up somewhere

3:32:06 She probably did if she was working for those outlets, but you know there's There's two CNN people sitting right there Yeah And they they all make jokes about the president about his appearance as fat ass is orange hair yeah But go on and on about his fat, but not so fun when it's about you. Is it no? No I just think it's Hilarious to listen to but very sad. Very sad. It is hilarious to listen, and it's not that sad. Got a little update on the Vegas massacre no clip but we do now have a valet receipt that indicates Mary Lou Danley was at Mandalay Bay on the day of the shooting and valeted her car

CHAPTER 27 / 33 Discussion

Las Vegas Shooting Update, Missing Video

New information regarding the Las Vegas massacre includes a valet receipt for Mary Lou Danley at Mandalay Bay on the day of the shooting. The lack of surveillance video from the hotel hallways is now being attributed to broken equipment, a shift from previous official explanations.

las vegas· mandalay bay· stephen paddock· mary lou danley· surveillance

3:32:51 Oh, yes. Yeah they tend to take your name... They do! They take your name and these yeah the naming because they give you their little receipt but they always figure gonna get drunk and lose it so you can always get your car back by your last name so that's not unusual I have a flu update Well wait there was one more thing about Vegas oh yes we've been wondering about why there is no video From inside the hotel? Yeah. I thought we already had that explained to us What was the explanation you heard? The explanation was they don't have video cameras upstairs so much because they just, they don't give a shit Uh no... apparently it was broken Oh well they changed the story then It was broken Mm-hmm Okay gee that sucks Before i go on my flu update I do have an Ask Adam clip

CHAPTER 28 / 33 Discussion

Drunk Driving Laws, Generic Scientist Claims

A local news report suggests lowering the legal blood alcohol limit below .08 based on claims from "scientists." The hosts mock the generic use of the term "scientists" in media reporting to grant authority to policy proposals without citing specific experts.

drunk driving· blood alcohol content· scientists· media criticism

3:33:57 Oh, we haven't done that. I find this by the way very distressing what you're gonna hear and You won't know why until I tell you why but I'll ask you if you can figure it out Okay first let's do a jingle... than protecting its own volunteers What the hell? That's just an Ask Adam clip I want to jingle is what i want I've heard better but... Yes, that one could be put on the C list. Alright here it is! The Ask Adam KTVU teaser? Yep. Still ahead tonight a change in drunk driving laws that scientists say could save 10 thousand lives a year how far those scientists think the blood alcohol level should drop below .08 Okay i'm ready What'd you find annoying about that clip

3:35:05 But something about the 10,000 years. Let me could you mind if I listen to it again? It doesn't people know Yeah Of course that you always play it quite still ahead tonight a change in drunk driving laws that scientists say could save ten thousand lives A year how far those scientists think the blood alcohol level should drop below 0.08 What is the point of the generic use of scientists? Scientists say, scientists say, scientists say. What scientist? Yeah the troll room got that immediately yes scientist they could have at least said drinking scientists like climate science. This is a guy who works in a bar I think we are drinking scientists aren't we? I think so yeah hope so I think we're pretty good at it well yeah that and that's your local report your local news just shame shambles there man shambles

CHAPTER 29 / 33 Discussion

EU Fake News Task Force, Brexit Reversal

EU chief Jean-Claude Juncker suggested that Russia meddled in the Brexit vote, a narrative the hosts believe is being used to justify a second referendum and keep Britain in the European Union. The EU is also considering a "seal of approval" for verified news sources.

jean-claude juncker· european union· brexit· russia· fake news

3:36:01 I did want to mention that now Jean-Claude Juncker, the drunker has actually come out and said that the task force the EU fake news task force was very concerned about Russia. And we now know for a fact of course that Russia also meddled in the Brexit vote. Oh sure they did! Again Junker said this... They are considering a European seal of approval for news. Ooh, I like that! Yeah so it would be kind of like the Twitter icon those guys were way ahead... Twitter's ahead of its time. I mean Twitter basically has already verified all these journos you know the ones to do something local have 2,000 followers they're all verified So i have a theory about this

3:36:59 This is a prelude and specifically planned to prelude. for welcoming back England after they take another Brexit vote and then decide to stay in the EU, and they can say well the reason it didn't pass the first time is because the Russians were meddling. We've made that very clear thus we won't have to do anything really nasty to the Brits for coming back into... You don't have to punish them for that first vote and everybody's happy. Very interesting you say that here is this from Reuters EU chief executive Jean-Claude Juncker the drunker renamed an offer renewed an offer to Britain on Wednesday To stay in the European Union and said he hoped that even if it goes through with Brexit It would apply to rejoin the bloc. I feel the exit of Britain is a catastrophe Yes, no, I feel that the exit of Britain is a catastrophe yes No, I can't do it a defeat we all have to take responsibility for

3:37:58 But the reasons for the British exit lie deeper. As Prime Minister Theresa May has said, the British never felt at ease in EU and for 40 years they haven't been given a chance to feel more at ease that is why the blame is on many. Well, I think this is going to be... because it's taking forever for it to come around. I like the idea that they would use that. I am feeling really good about my early prediction, early! Yes? That this was all bull crap and was gonna get reversed. Curiously even though you are doubting Thomas about this, YOU'RE THE ONE who triggered the original thought because you're the one that kept pointing out what they did in Portugal, what they did in The Netherlands and France when they voted against certain treaties. And then they just kept redo, redo, redo until they pounded the public back into submission. But I've always been a proponent of your theory that there would be... Well, you said it would never happen. That's what you said? What I say would never happen is that they would actually have a split. There's one other thing I wanted to mention too our producers in Gitmo Nation proper

CHAPTER 30 / 33 Discussion

Government Shutdown Theater, Hellhole Comments

As a government shutdown looms, the hosts revisit 2013 footage of Senator Lindsey Graham referring to nations south of the border as "hellholes." They contrast this with the current media outrage over President Trump's "shithole" comments, noting that the underlying political rhetoric has remained consistent for years.

government shutdown· lindsey graham· jeff sessions· immigration· mexico

3:39:02 Because I can see it. I see the fear, I see the anger and outrage this magical mystical deadline that we're going to shut down the government and not gonna pay anybody what's the NO agenda thinking on that John? Is there no agenda thinking on this that we're going to shut down the government like we do every time? Well, my thinking not necessarily I don't think it's no agenda thinking necessarily is that this is a make kind of just Democrats getting back at the Republicans for doing it to Obama. Yeah but did they actually shut the government down? Yeah! Don't you remember they closed the national parks? Yeah, we did do that. You're right. We had the furloughs

3:39:44 Yeah, the furloughs. They bring everyone back and give them all their pet back pay it's like a free vacation! But I don't think it's gonna happen they will not happen because they know that they are being squarely blamed now somehow they lost control of it Well they're trying to worm out of it...I've been watching this closely They've lost control of it. I think they've lost control The Democrats? yeah, I think they realize that if something gets shut down Of course the Republicans are saying all the men and women in military. This is true, but you know It's always like oh they're defending us you always go to the babies in the incubator story Well you tell me what the no agenda thinking is They won't just not gonna happen anything the whole thing's bullcrap. No, I think they're not gonna shut it down Oh, why would that would be so stupid?

3:40:31 Well, hey hello. I think i got a gem here little gem from 2013 amidst all of this shithole talk you know shithole countries there's a clip from 2013 of Lindsey Graham now what is his he's embarrassed by it right? He's uh what was his take on the shit hole stuff He had a personal conversation with Trump about it, I guess and he's kind of siding with the with Durbin who is the one who came to see we've made this public right and Now Jeff Sessions is also a racist right? We know we all know that Oh total racists ever since he hired his first black guy in the office And did nothing but support black causes and did everything you could for the blacks in Alabama. He was a racist Come on, we all know he's a racist

3:41:20 Here's a clip from 2013 with Lindsey Graham and Jeff Sessions. Are we okay up there and not okay to the south? The tail of two borders. Why is one a problem, the other's not? Because Canada is a place where people like to stay They like Canada We like Canada We love to have them visit They want to go home because it's a nice place The people coming across the southern border live in hell holes They don't like that

3:42:02 They want to come here. Our problem is we can't have everybody in the world who lives in a hellhole coming to America We're just gonna have to create order out of chaos Mr.. Chairman I had the honor to chair for a few years co-chair, The Mexican American Interparliamentary we traveled to Mexico it has its isn't I don't think my colleague doesn't mean to suggest that while there's poverty in Mexico and some really poor areas, it is not a hell hole. It has some great things going on in Mexico we're proud of the people of Mexico and...

3:42:42 It does have some difficult areas as I know you know, but I just want to say that you're right The good people a lot of progress has been made and we're proud of Mexico. Yeah continues to make progress now I wasn't slander in Mexico. I'm just talking about yeah, you are people won't leave Lindsay Graham is a racist and Jeff Sessions isn't the world's upside down I mean what are we gonna do? The only thing that's changed is how the media portrays it. That's the only thing that has changed

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Flu Outage, IV Bag Shortages

A severe flu season has led to a shortage of IV bags in U.S. hospitals, as many manufacturing facilities in Puerto Rico remain offline following Hurricane Maria. The segment notes a rare instance of a news report focusing on rapid testing and complications like sepsis rather than solely promoting the flu vaccine.

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3:43:19 So I do have the flu update and then i'm pretty good for the day. I can move the rest of that, I don't have much else except uh that Yeah let me listen to your flu update next tonight here new concerns about the deadly flu The newest victims and a reminder tonight about the rapid test That you can get if you or a loved one might have it are you saying no this? Are you saying something yeah did you know about the rapid test No But I was, you were distracting me. I kept hearing something like what is he saying? Next tonight here new concerns about the deadly flu the newest victims and a reminder tonight about the rapid test that you can get if you or a loved one might have it Here's ABC's Gio Benitez

3:43:58 Tonight, the flu moving fast claiming the young and strong. Ten-year old Nico Milosi from Connecticut gearing up for a travel hockey tournament hundreds of miles from home when his mother took him to a local ER he tested positive for the flu and was released but before he made it back home Nico grew sicker and was rushed to another hospital where he later died from pneumonia and sepsis. Nico was a very lively vibrant spirited kid An eco story painfully similar to that of Katie Oxley Thomas, a 40-year old marathon runner who died of similar complications. She went to an urgent care center was released then went to an ER with worsening flu symptoms she died 15 hours later Sometimes things happen and it could be because somebody has an additional condition that we weren't aware of if you start vomiting if your developing

3:44:45 very high fevers, if you're not able to keep down any food or drink. If you become lightheaded while you're standing... Doctors using rapid tests at urgent care centers like this one getting results in just five minutes and David tonight hospitals are also dealing with IV bag shortages many of them are made in hurricane-ravaged Puerto Rico so we're told that it could take weeks or months for this shortage to be resolved David what was weird about that report? There's always a shortage No, they didn't recommend the flu shot. Of course they don't! That's the first report I've ever gotten for this flu update where they don't recommend taking a useless flu shot and i noticed you got a letter from some guy going on and on telling us everything we've already talked about a million times on this show

3:45:31 No, it's uh that's because it's the number one way to get people to take the shot is to tell them not to take It you know like the cigarette packages. They never said not to take it they just didn't say anything Yeah You wouldn't know it existed if it wasn't if you listen to that report? It's you know They're not trying all I know is all I know is People are sick there's a lot of people really sick yeah from this you haven't got around to this we got everyone getting The family got around to this it was luckily We had some protection But, um... Well I'm glad you have protection. Yeah, called Tamiflu. Talked about it before. Yes yes. Um... Hey, I have one last clip and it's from one of our producers

CHAPTER 32 / 33 Discussion

Gulen Movement, Soner Tarim Disappearance

Soner Tarim, the CEO of the Gulen-affiliated Harmony Charter Schools in Texas, has abruptly resigned and reportedly disappeared. Tarim recently married a Chinese socialite, leading to speculation that the CIA-backed Gulen movement is shifting its focus toward operations in mainland China.

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3:46:12 He's in the clip. This is Mark Hall, you know him from Killing Ed? Yeah And he's doing a lot of interesting alternative media stuff and you know, he follows Gulen that's his main thing I would say our take on Gulen is that he's there and the Poconos we know the CIA guys got him in and got him as papers and he's got his little compound up there and There's quite a feeling that did no So he's making nothing but money from a scam of his yeah from the the charter school charter school scam that is also indoctrination of children There's a lot of things about all that. The movie has to be seen by everyone Yes, it's a great movie is called killing Ed But the main guy of the Texas Harmony schools which is I think the largest network of Gulen schools has disappeared

3:47:01 And I have some thoughts after you listen to this clip. So one of the most recent... This, by the way was on a Newsbud with Cybele Edmonds? You remember her? That's her network so that's where I got this from. One of the most recent interesting developments regarding the Gulen movement has been the group's new focus on China as an example Soner Tarim, the CEO of the Gulen affiliated Harmony Charter Schools in Texas which is the largest charter chain in the state with 63 schools now receiving over $300 million from taxpayers. He abruptly resigned his position from Harmony in November of last year. This is only two weeks after Sonar Tarim received the 2017 Man of the Year award from the Texas Charter School Association, in the presence of the governor and the education commissioner of state. It's not known where Tarim is now some believe he may be a mainland China as you may have seen in my film Killing Ed.

3:48:03 Soner co-founded the Harmony Schools with his American wife Cheryl in 2000. Cheryl converted to Islam and was very much involved in the Gulen movement activities in Houston She spoke at a Gulen non-profit event as recently as 2015. However, Soner Tarim has evidently left Sheryl to marry a new wife Nancy Lee, a Chinese born socialite and businesswoman in Houston This marriage occurred in 2016 One of Nancy Lee's activities last October was bringing a Chinese delegation to Houston from the province of Xinjiang which is home to the Turkish Uyghur Muslim minority in China

3:48:42 It should be noted that Xinjiang borders Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan in Central Asia, countries where the Gulen movement has operated schools and other organizations. Marriage is often seen by the Turkish male followers of Fethullah Gulen as a strategic decision to advance the group's goals. So I'm wondering if Soner Terim's recent marriage to Nancy Lee His unexpected resignation as CEO of a very important Gulen charter school chain, receiving many hundreds of millions of dollars each year. And his disappearance from the public sphere is a strategic decision to advance Fathullah Gulen's goals in mainland China. I don't think we know exactly all this yet but I think time will tell.

3:49:33 Now, there's a conclusion that came out of this which I thought was interesting and we can just look for it is that knowing the CIAs involvement with the Gulen movement these sudden interesting moves of upper management that we may be looking for some kind of crap to start taking place in China like disturbances and other things. The Chinese don't put up with this junk? They're just condemning them like they did the Falun Gong and then the next thing you know, yeah you can cause some trouble but life is going to be miserable for you.

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Episode 1000 Outro, End-of-Show Mix

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak conclude the 1,000th episode by thanking the "mixologists" and producers who sustain the show. They sign off with a reminder for the next broadcast on Sunday and play a celebratory end-of-show audio mix.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· episode 1000· outro· podcasting

3:50:11 Well, I thought it was interesting. I think the guy may have been killed for quitting or something or divorcing his wife. Ooh! There's one... That first thing came to mind he'd been killed and the other thing is did how do you divorce his wife? Did he stick- did he take her and put outside the yurt and tell that she is now divorced? Garbage day You only have to say it three times I think isn't that it? Yeah something like that And I forgot to congratulate Sir Ben Nydus and Sir Gordon Walton on their baronies Congratulations to both of you. All right, John that's it for 1,000 I do want a thousand one thousand I want to thank the UK PMX Gx2 Oh my bosh Danny loose Place bomb Dave Corbin who able Kirby jungle Jones Chris Wilson Tom Stark weather Conan Salada and future trash these are

3:51:04 Most of the people who contribute mixes to our end of show and we really appreciate all the work you do. And everybody, the producers it's your show 1000 as well Meet us here for 1001 It'll be on Sunday remember us at Dvorak dot org slash na Thank You troll room in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry hello Hello. I said in the morning, I'm Adam Curry Oh, I missed that! I was like too busy making noise and doing funny things over here Well now that you said that I can say well from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm looking forward to 1001 which is binary for guess what? I'm John C Dvorak We'll be back on Sunday right here no agenda until then adios mofos Suckin' and suckin', suckin' and suck

3:52:15 Suck it and suck it. You might die. You might die. You might die. Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing

3:53:15 It's interesting how the male elephant is really dominant in this whole procreation. She pees on him and then he says, oh god I gotta fuck her now! And then she puts up a phony chase... He has to chase her around a little bit, get pooped out Then she says okay okay so we're gonna drop dead if it not works So she stops And then he screws her with this, with his self. This crazy penis. It has a brain in it and figures out where to go and it does the dance on him because he can't move He's too heavy! He's got his back legs probably killing him. And then now this is a male-female dominated society you get that all right I don't know what you were talking about

3:54:07 It's interesting how the male elephant is really dominant in this whole procreation. And then now, this is a female-dominated society... You get that all right under what you were talking about. Interesting how the male elephant is really dominated in this whole procreation. And then now, this is a female dominated society... You get that all right under what you were talking about. Wow, John. That was one of the best rants you've ever gone on. Repeat...repeat...repeat A missile may impact on land or sea within minutes This is not a drill If you are indoors Stay indoors If you are outdoors Seek immediate shelter in a building Remove it from your windows We will announce when the threat has ended

3:55:05 A missile may impact on land or sea within minutes. We will announce when the threat has ended. This is not a drill. Hey now y'all, can we just get real? Do we really care about our fans or is this just another deal? Is that another way that we've lost our way

3:55:56 Social's about the people, remember? We are people. Do we really need another like, fan or share? Do we need another post to show up everywhere? I hope as we scatter that we never forget That our posts live forever even when we go to bed So connect with Mother Earth Let's get social! Social! Let's get social! Social! With social media

3:56:38 to find out their need. Let's get social! Social! Let's get social! Let's get social! Let's get social media! Give it up, Mary McCoy! Well congratulations for getting this far Yes you too My good sir Thanks Not bad at all I think we've had a good run We've had a good run John We should just quit while were ahead What would I be doing if we had actually quit? Podcast makes a thousand shows with a star for each No sponsors to say no And take a official thousand nights and just as many they give away And hope that B-Away

3:58:04 Phones are running big and save the day If I made two dimensions at one time, I'd straddle with you Dimension B, dimension A We spark a love I'd spend the end with you And when our show was through, Trojan would retire They'll fuck at you too

3:59:20 He's inspired once in a while, it's very fun. And when Nick is firing and all... He's pretty hard to beat I mean we're kind of grooming him to take over the show aren't we? Can you imagine? The best podcast in the universe! If it rains true It ends true