In the Saddle

00:00 Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday, September 28th, 2017. This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 9 or 6, 8. This is no agenda. Taking a knee, eating a sleeve, and coming to you from the darkest corners of the internet here in downtown Austin-Tejas, capital of the drone star state in the Cluedio, in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where there's shootouts everywhere, I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning! No, say it ain't so. Yeah, so. What, what, uh, what shootout?

00:37 He had shootouts. Oh man. There was a good one yesterday on the freeway. They stopped the whole freeway. Like 10 cops versus one guy in a black SUV. It's always a black SUV. But are they shooting at other drivers or just... No, no, no. They chased this guy down. They finally surrounded him and they told him to get out of his car and they shot him. Shot him. Nice. They gunned him down. Excellent. Okay. Well. It was fun. That could ruin your day. Well, if you were the guy getting shut down, sure. Sure. So I'll say up front that it's probably about 50-50 people who want to hear about the NFL controversy and 50-50 who, you know, 50% who don't. I'm sure that sounds about right. Why would any... What is the controversy?

01:31 I don't know. Yeah, I thought you were going to do a bit today. You announced it in the newsletter. So I'm just stepping back here. This is not my wheelhouse. First of all, first of all, this wasn't a... Wait, wait, wait. No, stop. Why are we discussing it at all? Is a good question. Because it's all about Trump and Trump's the president of the United States. And NFL is now media. It is now M5M. They're in. Yeah, and they're all against Trump. They hate him. Because he said some critical things about the fire the guys was put taking now stop right there I have heard so much bullcrap about what he actually said that I pulled the clip so we could listen to it. I've heard people say, he called, okay, what did he say? What do you think he said? He said, I'd like to see the owners if they could, you know, see the guy taking a knee and protesting the flag and they'd like to see him fire him. You're fired, he said. So what I think he said is he was not specific towards

02:35 Kaepernick, what's his name? No, no, Kaepernick's not even in the league. He's not taking a knee. But it was nonspecific and what I've heard constantly repeated is he called black people sons of bitches. He called, you know, just not what he said at all. Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners? when somebody disrespects our flag to say get that son of a bitch off the field. See he's he said one of these owners when someone disrespects the flag a little different than the way that was twisted and you know the funny thing is I never thought of twisting it the way that you described which because he says get that son of a bitch off the field and that would imply it's a black guy therefore he's calling black people son of a bitches

03:23 Worse than that worse than that worse. Yes worse than that I take you to the floor of the house for Democratic Republican Representative Al Green. I rise today Mr. Speaker to make comments that I never thought I'd have to make in the well of the House of Congress. I rise today to defend, denounce and announce. Mr. Speaker, I rise to defend any mother who has been called a dog because her son engaged in peaceful protest. I rise, Mr Speaker. I rise today, Mr Speaker, to defend any son who is called the son of a dog because when I was 11, you say that just means dog just means a female dog doesn't mean anything else. He engaged in peaceful protest.

04:24 I rise, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise to denounce these comments that have been made. And it gets better. Because they have brought discourse to a new low. Mr. Speaker, this is a level of indecency that is unbecoming the presidency. What do I do? Mr. Speaker, I rise. to say to the world that this is not what a mirror out calling people SOBs

05:01 and we know what a bee is. It's a dog. Mr. Speaker, I rise because my heart tells me that I must do something. So, Mr. Speaker, I denounce the comments that were made and I rise to announce that on next week, Mr. Speaker, I will bring a privileged resolution before the Congress of the United States of America. I will stand here in the well of the Congress And I will call for the impeachment of the president of the United States of America. We've gone insane. Well, that guy for sure. And I hate to do this so early in the show, but I give you a clip of the day for that. I never heard this. I missed it somehow. Yeah, I'm lucky that way. I mean, I knew you were going to do it. So I have to find things that are kind of on, you know, that I, that I understand. You can't beat Al Green. That guy is, he's worse than actually worse than Maxine Waters. And he says, because he called

05:57 Someone, sons of dogs, should be impeached! Yeah. That is really... Makes nothing but sense. That is really, really... There's one other thing I just want to bring up just while we're talking about it because in the lexicon we now have this taking a knee, take a knee, taking a knee, and it really irks me. You know, it's like we have a name for... that's why I said eating a sleeve. It feels the same to me. You ever eaten a sleeve of Oreos? No. Oh, no. So taking a knee. I know it just it the whole thing is bothersome, but it's infectious. It works. Well, it did get the off to get Russians off the front page. Yeah, briefly in it. Well, the New York Times this morning said that it's it looks like the Russians are at it again on Twitter meddling in the NFL controversy.

06:56 As a matter of fact, yes. That has been, in fact it was discussed on one of these clips I got, that the Russians have kept doing this. What do I have? It's a clip about... This is from the New York Times from this morning. Well, you're looking for that clip. Yeah. And let's see, it says here, let me just find the NFL. Yeah, because there's like, here we go. Not found. I just did that. But anyway, in this article they claim that there are now fake Twitter accounts who are riling up the controversy over the NFL and they're using more fake ads and memes to do it, to create division between our people. Yeah, they had this, well I don't have it, but the report went on to say that they've created these fake Twitter accounts as if there are no fake Twitter accounts.

07:54 In fact, there's a testing site you can go to, I think you've mentioned it on the show before, where you can put your name in there and they'll tell you how many fake followers you have. And I don't remember what that is. And very few people have less than at least a third to a half of their followers are fake. So if you're having a fake Twitter account run by the Russians, at least somebody's doing something. These fake ones just seem to be bots. Anyway, they claim that the Russians are in there meddling on both sides of this debate. You're arguing on the side of the protest or another project the taking the years and the anti-taking the years taking the years and they're taking both and the reason is to cause Divisiveness yes, yes those bastards Sons of bitches I tell you those Russians are I have a great clip about that later after we finish this up. Oh

08:48 All right, so what's going on is that we're seeing and this happened with the show business too. We have a bunch of rich athletes here who are pissed off about one thing or another. They're not getting everything going their way except their income. And so they're making a big fuss. This was an anti-Trump protest, this knee thing, because Trump said something. He said anything, it's fine. And I think there's no coincidence in the right wing culture. Let me just stop you there. Do you really believe that despite what everyone says, And it seems like the NFL players actually aren't saying very much. But despite what everyone says about them, that this is a protest against Trump and not against police brutality against blacks, browns, yellows, anything but white. Because we know... Yeah. Yeah. And I'll say the reason I say that is because the first couple of weeks of the league national games

09:44 There was like a guy here and a guy there taking a knee, and then Trump shoots his mouth off, and next thing you know the whole team is taking a knee with the owner with them. Right. So this is a Trump protest. And I tell you, I'm more convinced today than ever that people are just looking at headlines, don't read the articles. The headline writing is so atrocious that Washington Post, New York Times, they regularly have to retract their headline because it's misleading and dishonest. Washington Post just had to do that the other day. And Washington Post reporter was confronted on one of these news shows, I think it was like a news hour, about what they're going to try to do in some European newspapers, which is you can't comment on an article in the comment section unless you take a test.

10:37 What kind of test? The test is about the article. The test is going to ask you a couple questions about the article and make sure you read it. Because people are just seeing headlines and then writing these long comments, bitching and moaning about stuff. Well, kids today are great at that. They're very good at looking at the question, grabbing the cliff notes. Yeah, of course. Then just filling it won't be a problem. And so the... By the way, I really despise now this new way of blocking you. You can read the article for free, but you have to take the quiz. You know, how much do you earn? You know, stuff like that before they'll show the article. No, I know that. I know, but I find that an irksome... I have not run into what you're talking about. Just this morning I had one. Yeah. And the first thing it says is you have to tell us how much you make and then maybe you'll get a second one.

11:26 And then they show you the article. So of course I put in under 11,000. Perfect. I'm sure they'll show me the ad right away. No money to get from this guy. Let's go straight to the article. I have the ad blocker thing going on with mine. I do too. But I got two, two things happen. One is you're running an ad blocker, take it off or you can't read the article at all. That's Forbes. So I never read any Forbes article or something I really want to read. I'll do the old trick from the 1920s. You... You cut the headline, put it in Google, see where else it shows up, and you'll find two or three people that reproduce the article and you can just read it for free without hassle. Well, I have a, you know, the Freedom Controller makes offline copies of anything and it has a whole, actually, I think it's artificial intelligence and machine learning, and it knows what it has to pull out that is just the text of the article, and it bypasses all the JavaScript crap.

12:24 even on Forbes if I if I Make a copy of it on the freedom controller. It strips all it out gives me the full article. It's just JavaScript. Yeah, it's great Anyway, back to the football. So these guys are protesting Trump and I think that's where it's going. But the thing that they're ignoring is the same thing I think they're ignoring in mainstream showbiz at these award shows and some of the shows themselves, and the network shows in particular, is that it's annoying to the public at large. And the public at large, and there's a lot of people out there that are adamant about their patriotism and their, you know,

13:02 They've served and they don't like seeing any of this sort of thing. And so they're starting to reject these forms of entertainment because it is optional. There's no reason you have to watch any of this stuff. And so you can go find something else to watch. And the ratings have been down for NFL and the attendance has been down. You see a lot of empty stadiums. That's what's very interesting to me, that attendance is down. And I didn't know this. You told me after the show, I was like, really? I had no idea. And yes, it's really bad. And they're very concerned about it and this isn't helping. The right-wing talkers all believe that this is causing a problem because the naivete of these highly paid athletes and the management of these football teams, they don't have a clue. And the NFL should have a clue but they don't seem to have a clue either and they're letting this happen.

13:56 They are aggravating a good portion of their audience. The kind of people, let's get this straight, the kind of people that go to football games are not the college academics. They're not the radicals. They're the working class or upper working class, upper middle class types or middle class types. Many of whom voted for Trump and they don't appreciate this. They're having it thrown in their face. They're saying screw you guys. I'm not going to a football game to be lectured to about anything but football. And the same thing with the TV people. They're completely off their ass. And there may be some additional issues, which I think they, you know, really if you want to watch football, you know, HD, big screen at home, that's, you know, you can really see it. I think

14:48 Televised American football is still some of the best television made anywhere in the world. It's technically, how they do it, how they make it interesting. It's really an incredible production. It's one of the reasons I watch the Super Bowl, but I can watch any game just for that to be interesting. And I like it a lot. But, you know, they're really... because people are dropping cable, you know, when you drop cable, then it's like, I don't know, it's like a couple bucks, seven bucks or something that goes to ESPN. That's down for them. They're taking this, I think, relatively big gamble on doing a lot of stuff online, which just doesn't have the same experience. Yeah, it's video and yeah, you can put on a big screen. It's just not exactly the same. And I think they're making a mistake in their focus.

15:35 of where the audience is, besides alienating the audience and maybe even who the audience is. Well, alienating the audience, and you don't have to alienate the entire audience. It doesn't take much. And you have to remember Trump did win, so he got a lot of votes from millions of people. Also, wasn't the stadium, weren't there a whole bunch of teams that built new stadiums in weird places? I think even San Francisco, I was reading that just it's too much out of the way now. People don't want to go. Like, didn't the 49ers move? Yes, they moved to Santa Clara. And is that to all so that local? Yeah, since we're talking about this, they moved the entire operation to Santa Clara, which is like 40 miles away from San Francisco South on the crowded peninsula. And it's been a stadium that is funky as far as I'm concerned. It looks like something from a bad movie and it is

16:30 impossible to drive there because if you go there, you can talk to anybody who's been to any game at this place, Levi's Stadium, and they'll tell you that after the game is over, it can take two to three hours just to get out of the parking lot. It's very poorly designed. That's pretty bad. And that's what they tell you. So you have to take the train. If you want to go to the game, so you take the train, which is a slow boat to say the least down the peninsula from San Francisco takes a good 3540 minutes on this crummy Cal train. And then you know things pack coming back and you have to wait to get get a one that's somewhat empty.

17:10 It's a nightmare. And so this stadium is, I used to watch a game, this stadium is about one third full. And what makes it worse is they thought it would be cool to make the seats just bright red and all that's done is make it obvious. I predict, I predict in our future, virtual crowds being placed into every shot. They have the technology. It's very easy to do. They're gonna have to do that now. Yeah, they're gonna have to do it. They should be doing that now, exactly what you said. Yeah, it looks horrible. I've done the research, even though it's not really... Again, I don't hate sports. I'm sorry. You know, honestly, John, I think Baltimore is worried. I mean, Woodhead is out eight more weeks. Everyone knows old man Flacco won't get him onto the promised land. They'll be lucky if they go six and ten. This is the last thing the Ravens need right now. But I don't know anything about it.

18:05 Yeah, well that's true. Thank you Alex Luce. Baltimore would be lucky to go five and eleven. Anyway, back to this thing. I think they're hurting their product and they don't seem to understand it. They're caving to the, you know, a few, you know, there's, yeah, okay, Kaepernick's protest was what it was and now he can't get a job. Nobody's protesting the fact that he's been blackballed They haven't got the guts to do that. Yeah, but their protest is vague police brutality and the flag. We don't like the flag anymore. Let's just get the national anthem out of sports. Well, it's not a military event. Well, get it out of sports and this resolves this problem. I could not agree with you more. However, Article 62 of the NFL League rulebook states

18:58 The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag in our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the national anthem may result in discipline such as fines, suspensions, and or the forfeiture of draft choices for violations of the above including first offenses. They need to change that. I wonder what they're gonna do about the Dallas Cowboys all taking a knee with their owner and coach. That was pretty interesting.

19:46 Well, they're gonna have to find them big time if they were gonna take this seriously. The problem is this is like the college thing. Evergreen was the best example. Nobody has the courage, the leadership is shot. Nobody has the courage to expel the students for violations of the student codes. Correct. And nobody has the guts that, like Trump says, to fire any of these guys because they got these big contracts so it's not that easy. But you can find them and just keep finding them. And not go along with it. And what we're seeing... It's a football game, it's not a protest. What we're seeing with these players and whoever else, you know, coaches or owners, whoever's participating,

20:30 is a microcosm of where we are right now today. Because sure, some of those guys voted for Trump, some of them voted for Hillary, some of them didn't vote, but they have their own... I mean, you can make $30 million a year and you still will have to do what your environment expects you to do. These guys, they The NFL discourages them from saying anything if it's not outside of NFL control. by their environment, their families, their whoever it is. Not necessarily their teammates, but in some cases, yes. And that's what's happening here. And if you don't say something, take a stand, take a knee, then you're for the other guy or for the other position. It's a microcosm of everything. Well, there's that. It's a microcosm. It's ridiculous. But then when you read Huffington Post,

21:26 The absence of white athletes kneeling from the Anthem Sunday was a particularly illustrative moment in white privilege. Yes, title of this article is, White Athletes Still Standing for the Anthem Are Standing for White Supremacy. Come on! Wow! Huffington Post. HuffPo. Well, I ran into a white supremacist. It's no different than Taylor Swift. It's the same thing. They have to do it, otherwise they get excoriated. Well... Yeah, that happened to the Ben Roethlisberger, the quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steers, as he refuses to take part in this nonsense. And what happened to him? Well, he's... Oh, people think he's a dick. He's the quarterback. Everybody loves the guy. They can't say anything bad about him.

22:11 But he is a dick apparently. Here's a clip from a CNN lady, Don Lemon. I don't know who it was, but she's going on. She's going on and on about white supremacy, Donald Trump being a racist. And I just thought her definition of white supremacy was quite fascinating. Not only is Donald Trump a white sympathizer, I think he identifies with this notion of white supremacy, this notion of preservation of white culture. And does that make him a white supremacist?

22:47 Yeah, does that essentially make him a racist? I absolutely believe so. And I've been hesitant to say that because I think words matter, words are really important. And I don't like to throw the word racist around. I don't like to throw lots of different kind of words like that around. And so today I'm at the point, much like the guess you just had, that the president of the United States is a racist. And we have put a white supremacist in the White House. What was that? Wow, what is that? I like it, but what is it? I don't know. I went to the end of your clip. I have no idea. This is fantastic. You should put that every clip. I wish I knew now. Anyway, so here's the here's the here which is what she said. I have it is pretty funny. I have to go back in because that should have been cut sooner. So I don't know how that got in there.

23:44 She says the notion, notion, it's not anything that actually exists. Greek culture never existed, Romans didn't. It's just a notion, just a notion. The notion of the preservation of white culture. Yeah, the notion. Equals white supremacy. I heard it, just the notion. So you can't have whatever she thinks white culture is without being a racist. It could be a lot of different things. Denny's. John, when are we just going to face it? You're white, you're a racist. Done. I guess this is what it's leading to. When I was growing up, if someone called you a racist, man, that was a big deal. That was just unbelievable. And this constant changing of meanings of words

24:35 Especially with this CNN lady just said is disturbing. It's disturbing and you'd think Don Lemon or somebody would call her out. No. Last night on... Don Lemon's the host. He should have called her out. He's just going, uh-huh, uh-huh. He can't do that. He's the ultimate in virtue signaling. He can't say anything if it's not part of the narrative. He'll get slaughtered. Last night on CNN Anderson Cooper hosted a like an hour-long kind of town hall thing about NFL and taking a knee and you know respecting the flag and Spike Lee Was in conversation. Well, actually a question. He was he was there on a panel. Of course we need Spike Lee some gold star parents and

25:23 challenged him about, you know, kneeling, athletes kneeling during the national anthem and I thought it was an interesting little dialogue. How do you support these multi-millionaires on their knees and don't support what the fallen heroes died for? Sir, I'm very sorry for your loss but the narrative that you spoke about is not true. All these places said many, many times that they respect the armed forces, they respect the flag, and they respect America. And this narrative that when they take a knee, it's insulting your son who's no longer here, is not true. They've said that.

26:08 Again and again and again. But there's a lot of people who, you know, look at this as disrespectful. When you see the flag... A lot of people thought that, what, in 6-8 Olympics, this is why I'm wearing this shirt. John Carlos and Tommy Smith, when they won the Olympics, they put the black fist up. A lot of people felt that was... Excuse me, I have one other question. Yeah. One, North Korea aims a nuclear missile at us. Are these heroes that you say, NFL, that can't support our flag, are they gonna be on their knees when this happens? Or are they gonna support our veterans? Sir, I'm worried just as much Donald Trump as that crazy guy in North Korea. And he has a nuclear code. I'm worried about that. Well, we're worrying together then. Very... What? That was very weak from Mr. Lee. Very weak?

27:09 By the way, I don't hear all of this that he said. I don't hear them because they're not saying anything. They're just taking the knee with everybody else. No, I'm sure there's one or two, but I have not seen any players say anything about it. But the White House press corps is using it to stir up shit. I mean, that's a dick question. That is a dick question. No, man.

27:45 That is a very dick that is fair. I have to say though it amongst the press corps if you were there I'm sure you'd get a kick out of it. Oh, yeah Is Louise did you say Louise? I just said that I like it, but it's like a Louise Louise That was pretty funny. So yeah, all right we move on to to Russia and Well, before that, maybe we should do at least a short tribute to Hugh Hefner who just dropped dead. Yeah, in 91. I just think, unanswered questions about this. About his death? They say it's natural causes, but I'm wondering whether he died in the saddle, A, which I'm sure was his goal. That is, that would be the goal to have that be the story. And yes, well, I've got that kind of a story-centric mentality.

28:39 In other words, did he die in the saddle? A, which has not been answered. I have a little thing from CBS here about him being dead. It was on the morning show. And if he died in the saddle, who killed him? is one of the most humanizing forces on the planet. Hugh Hefner spent his life bringing sex into the American mainstream. Tonight, the Playboy philosophy. At a time when sexuality and speaking about it publicly was taboo. We are going through a period of moral transition related to sex and we will not be going back to the old concepts. Hefner ushered in a whole new set of concepts

29:18 launching Playboy magazine at only 27 years old in 1953 with Marilyn Monroe gracing its first cover. Isn't that really what you're selling? Kind of a high-class dirty book? No, I don't think so. The whole idea behind Playboy was to try to put sex back into the total fabric of the interests of man. No, that's their whole bit. That's what they had. No, they had a long bit and somehow I botched it. Oh, so you didn't get, you know, we could actually do this. We could create, you know, a site or something and write an article about how he died in the saddle. Get some stock photo of a hot babe. And this is the one we'll call her Louise and, uh, you know, launch it, see what happens. We'll do it for half. Do it for half. Do it for half. Yeah.

30:14 Well, he was a pioneer in a lot of ways and he was very interesting. There used to be this show called the Two Peters or something, I forgot the name. It was on some AMC or it was very early in the morning and it had Peter Guber and this other guy, Peter Bart, who was a writer and they would talk about the movies and they'd bring these guys in and have this very intellectualized discussion. And Heffner was one of the most interesting guys they ever brought on because he just he had intellectualized his entire business to such an extreme that he had a very interesting vision of why the magazine was doing well for a while, then not, and then how things have changed. He just had the whole structure of things, and it was a completely alien personality to what you see when he was performing as either the host of that stupid TV show he had or when he was with the

31:09 the reality show, Next Door or whatever it was called. And it was like a different person. And I found it very fascinating. He was very thoughtful about what he was doing. None of this was not well thought out. I would recommend, we've talked about it not too long ago, but I'd recommend looking at the documentary, which is I think eight or nine series. I'm for sure it's on Amazon. I don't know if it's on Netflix. But it's very good when you see what he did for the publishing world. Did a lot of firsts, a lot of big firsts, particularly when it comes to working with women, working with colored people, as it says in the documentary. He did quite a lot. Yes. Which I don't think he gets proper credit for.

31:55 I think he gets a lot of credit in the business. Yeah, sure. The public, I don't think he cares what the public thinks. I think he liked the image of screwing everything with two legs. He thought it helped sell magazines as far as he's concerned. And I will say in the 70s when Playboy was at its peak and the magazine was hugely successful and extremely, it was, I don't know how many pages, but it was a large number of pages. It did have articles that you'd read. Yeah, I remember when in the Dutch Playboy I was the Playboy interview. It was a big deal. Wow, you're the Playboy interview? Yeah, yeah, it was a huge deal. You get all those cool photos in black and white of you looking pensive.

32:45 Looking off to the side, you know, like you're talking. What did you have to say? I can't remember. I can't remember what you said. You know, the MTV is just getting started. No, it was before that. It was before that. Music videos are going to be the main way people take in music in the future. I said there's no evidence people will want these music videos. That's what I said. Yes, well, at the time you were probably... The Al Gore, The Al Gore, The Al Gore. New jingle, the Jeff Smith. That's very slick. Yeah. Now the reason I play the jingle is because I want to bring up Russia and the Russian ads which you have more information on than I do about the actual ads themselves but to recap this is getting very deep now that Facebook allowed the Russians, the Russians, we're not even saying just the Russians, to meddle

33:44 in the American elections. Now of course we need to prove that there was collusion with Americans, then we know for sure. We've seen what we think are these ads, they're pretty tame, but it's great to listen to Adam Schiff, a Democratic congressman from California, as he talks about these Russian ads. But he's taking it further and the The crap is about to hit the fan for Silicon Valley. They're providing with all of the commercials that Russia used on its platform. But I think what's important for people to know is there are a couple real significant issues here. One is, of course, the paid advertising, which was designed not only to help Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, but more fundamentally to divide Americans, to pit one American against another on some very... By the way, did he say to help Trump or Hillary Clinton?

34:34 Let me just listen to that again. I love that. Yeah, he's a KGB operative of which the KGB hasn't existed for how many, what a decade, two decades? No, longer than that. I think they were dissolved in 93. Okay. But that's what you'd expect from a former, not even former, let's just say a KGB agent. That's great. Kind of cynical campaign you would expect of having a KGB operative running a country. There's a lot we don't- This is, by the way, this is Adam Schiff. This guy is on the intelligence committee. He knows there's no KGB.

35:22 He should know. Well, maybe he doesn't. The guy is a that guy is should be arrested. Well, wait until you hear the rest. There's a lot we don't know yet about it. I think we know only the minimum of the advertising. And of course, advertising was only one method the Russians used on social media. And this was only one platform. But there's also an issue about the use of Facebook's algorithms and the way it tends to potentially reinforce people's informational bias. And this is a problem that goes well beyond Russia, but in one example, if you were looking or interested in an article about Hillary Clinton's health,

35:58 Would the Facebook algorithms result in you seeing a lot more stories about Hillary Clinton's health and reinforce a misperception or inaccurate information? That is a far broader issue than Russia, but one that we really need to know a lot more about. And that's a Facebook problem, not a Russia problem. I mean, that's a problem with their algorithm that keeps us all uh... siloed in certain narrow areas. Yes, that is certainly a Russian implication because they use these algorithms to amplify misinformation or slander. Oh yeah, like the Russians are tweaking Facebook's algo. This is great! But it's far broader and we have to ask is this in our society's interest

36:37 to create these informational silos. What's the impact of these Russian Facebook ads? I mean, is anybody saying that they had any influence on the election that changed the outcome in any possible way? It seems a small amount to have done anything like that. Well, first of all, that small amount is only what Facebook has thus far confirmed came directly out of Russia. They have acknowledged that they haven't looked or analyzed or completed a report yet on advertising Russia may have done through third countries. So Russia will use proxies in the Caucasus or other parts of Europe to potentially buy ads or amplify misinformation. And of course this is just one platform the Russians were using. This has nothing to do with the Russian use of bots on Twitter. So look at the full extent of Russian use of social media.

37:21 Was it in any way decisive or determinative? Hard to say because we really have so little information thus far about the extent. Transparency of the algos is coming, Silicon Valley. Get ready for it. And you think it's me about all this? Now he's bitching about, if you're interested in Hillary's hell, you're gonna get a lot of stories about it. Wasn't this the goal? Isn't this the stated goal? Yes. That you were gonna get what you're interested in? This is why you're on some of these platforms because you don't care about anything but certain things and that's what you wanna get as your information and news feed? Yes. Isn't this, this was like the promise, this is the holy grail of computing. And then of course the adjunct

38:04 to that would be targeted advertising because you're only going to get ads that you really would kind of have something to do with. Which really doesn't work very well yet. None of it works and that's all beside the point. But is it, why are we now bitching though about the Holy Grail? This is what everyone wants, they say. So now it's not good. Nope. Because if you want to, if all you want to care about is Hillary's health, You'd get, oh my god, all you'd get would be stuff about Hillary's health. Well yeah, because that's what you want. So why is he complaining about it? He has to complain about something and he has to sound like he's a techno expert, which he's clearly not. I'm surprised he didn't use the term IPSs. I was waiting for that one. Is he the one that did that? No, no he didn't do that but it's still funny. It still cracks me up. Yeah, so...

38:59 When these ads, I mean, so Congress has them, I guess, and they're, you know, everyone's... I'm predicting to you they will not make these public. They've leaked and all that, doesn't matter. If they really make them public, people go, what's the harm in this? Well, also... I think there's a, this is the same with the artificial intelligence fad that took place between 1980 and 1986. Which was the same this is a fifth generation project or the fourth generation project out of Japan? This is when Japan was gonna kill us and just because they were so superior And that was the end of it, that's right. I remember that Japan they're gonna take over we were afraid of them Oh, we should do we should do our manufacturing the way the Japanese do it with teams. Yes, there's all these guys and

39:56 Kuretsu! I'm telling you, it's kuretsu. And whatever the Japanese did was what we should do. And there was all this, this is a panic in the 80s. And one of the panic, I think a panic earmark was these artificial intelligence nuttiness that took place, which died because none of it worked. Couldn't be shown to work and it was just a disaster and it wasted a lot of money and time. And now we're going through the whole thing again. And I think what happens if they reveal the elgos, experts are gonna look at them and go, my God, was this written by a fifth grader? This is idiotic. There's nothing to this.

40:37 That's the problem. They're not going to make them public. It'll be too dangerous. It would be they would be completely ridiculed if they did well, that's these things don't work Well, we need to we need to demand to see them We that's the demand I have well you make you keep it keep it up because it's never gonna happen. You're right Never gonna happen. All right. Sorry. No, it's okay. I did I didn't have much more to say about that I do have one more algo Story if you're interested. I'm more interested in the jingle Okay, we can do that for sure You know the story about Amazon recommending bomb material oh Yeah, yeah, that's a good one. It all seems to me to be a publicity for Amazon

41:43 Yeah, well I don't know if it's, it probably is publicity from Amazon, but Channel 4 in the UK really did a deep dive into it and it turns out that this is really based upon people shopping for different things in their kitchen for cooking, etc. and that's why these pop up. There's a whole article about it that I put in the show notes, it's pretty interesting to read. And, you know, so they were able to, they think, reverse engineer and say this is absolutely bullcrap, this has nothing to do with bomb making. Yeah, that makes sense. I can buy that. Still, it's interesting that those stories just go away. Amazon is in trouble in general, I think.

42:30 How does this work? They say, well, the stock is down. People are talking about it. Well, I think somebody took a look and said, hey, wait a minute. These guys own a grocery store chain. There's no that's the worst business in the world. And I'm telling you, Whole Foods has changed. It's no longer the same. I've been, I checked this out because I've been hearing, oh, the shelves are empty and all this other stuff. I seen, I went to Whole Foods recently, a couple times actually since the change, and most recently. I don't see it. It's like the same place to me. What are you seeing differently? What are you seeing that I'm not seeing? I was just saying that. I don't actually see anything different. I don't shop at Whole Foods that often, John. You might now. They're pretty expensive. If they get cheaper. Not so much, no. Those days are over. Oh, so it's gonna be cheaper. That's interesting. I think it's competitive with any of the other mid-range stores. Hmm. I'm noticeably... You notice it when you go to a building. Okay, I'll take a look. I'll take a look. Yeah, I will.

43:34 Elon yeah, Elon Musk is warning us once again for the algos the algos will certainly be a lot of job disruption Because what's gonna happen is rose more about AI but it's the same as algos in my book that same thing Certainly be a lot of job disruption Because what's gonna happen is row us will be able to do everything better than us. I I'm including, I mean all of us. It's like something like 12% of jobs are transport. Transport will be one of the first things to go fully autonomous. But when I say everything, like the robots will be able to do everything. I have exposure to the very most cutting-edge AI and I think people should be really concerned about it. I keep sounding the alarm bell but you know until

44:25 People see like robots going down the street killing people like they don't know how to react It seems so a theory. AI is a rare case where I think we need to be proactive in regulation instead of reactive Because I think by the time we are reactive in AI Regulation it's too late. AI is a fundamental existential risk for human civilization, and I don't think people fully appreciate that Cutting on I have access to cutting edge. I'm telling you what Adam Adam until you barely ever say my name I know I but I say it again. I like it say my name Adam hmm You know Adam yes, you're until these these damn robots are walking up and down the street shooting people We weren't we're not gonna pay much attention to it, but so these robots Adam. Yes be shooting people in the streets

45:22 Yes, then we're gonna we're gonna start paying attention because until then it won't no one will care No one's cares even though I know I got access to stuff that nobody else has access to because I'm Elon People and so people don't realize what's going on. I know yeah, he has cutting-edge access to and I'll remind every access to cutting I'll remind everybody that the the father of the back propagation algorithm which is the foundation of all AI, has himself said we need to start over. We need some form of master algorithm that is the decision-making nucleus of a full algo. I'm really paraphrasing what he said. Because it just does not... he said we won't get where we want to be.

46:11 And you and I know that it's not, as long as I'm still getting ads for something I just bought, AI is crap. But what's interesting, if you look at- And that's cutting edge. Yeah, it's very cutting edge. If you look at the stock market, oh my God, there's this company Veri, V-E-R-I, who, this was really great. Someone, they came out with some AI technology. They're public, you know, penny stock. This thing rockets from under a dollar to $50. So now everybody's looking for one of those, you know, this SRAC and SSC and all these other companies. But what was funny is yesterday, I think it's like an analyst house called Orion, and they sent out a tweet, a tweet that said, you know, that very AI is pretty much dumb and doesn't work. Boom! From 50 to 20.

47:05 It's fantastic. People are going nuts over anything AI and it's completely based on nothing air. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Okay. So this new Star Trek came out. Really? Yeah. They, they, I care less about Star Trek than I do about Star Trek discovery, but the original name is actually a lot of people don't realize this, but the original name was Star Trek. Black lives matter. No, Yeah, that was definitely the original name. How did you come to this knowledge? By watching it. And it's about... the main character is not the captain, but the main character is number one and she is a black girl, a young black girl who does nothing but grouse. And she also reminds me, if you see any Black Lives Matter meeting where there's always some young black girl who kind of takes control of everything.

48:06 This is what this girl is and she's the one black woman on the on the cast. There's everybody else's mixed race And you see very few whites except there's this one tall alien Of course the one gay alien is white makes nothing but he's kind of white But he's got all kinds of features that are not white because his nostrils are on his cheeks and it's just it's actually pretty gross looking and I don't know how he even got into the onto these ships, he's too tall. But the whole thing, I get some dialogue here because we have a, the captain is a Chinese woman who reminds anyone who remembers the old Friday shows Miss Swan very much the captain. And I get to play one of these two clips randomly. Is there a message? This message. Captain, what if they're calling for the same thing we are?

48:53 Now I know who this is! You don't know who that is? Who? Oh my god. It's the North Korean lady. Yeah. Engage! Yeah, something like that. So here's the other one. The Black Lives Matter girl, she comes in and she goes and visits with her mentor who is a

49:43 Vulcan, and the Vulcan guy says to her, what we used to always do with the Klingons is fire on them immediately, otherwise they don't have any respect for you. So she goes running back into the captain's, into the deck, main deck, and demands that the captains fire on these Klingons. So we don't fire on anybody first, it's not our style. And she gets all bent out of shape about it, the Black Lives Matter girl, and then she goes into a separate room to have a discussion. She doesn't beat up the captain, but she knocks her silly so she's down. And then she runs back in to take over the ship and tells the ship to fire on the Klingons. And then the captain snaps out of it, comes in and holds a gun on her. But let's just play this second one. It would be logical for you to take into account my success rate during our seven years together and execute my plan without further challenge before we're dragged into war. Starfleet doesn't fire first.

50:40 That's all number one. We have to in my ready room now. Lieutenant commander, you have the bridge. Yes, captain. I don't know what the clip had to do with it. It stinks. It sounds like it. Now there is a Star Trek fan fiction that has been financed by GiveUsMoney.com or whoever it is and they have 10 episodes out and they're all hour-long episodes and it's called Star Trek Continues and it's on

51:20 YouTube and you can nowadays you can watch on your television if you have a YouTube connection to the TV It is absolutely ten times better than this discoverer show. That's good. That's good And it's but it's what's funny about it is they've got their original characters the original set They got that we got a Spock. They got a Captain Kirk. They got the doctor they have I think the guy was the engineer is actually the son of the guy who played the Scotty and And it is, the stories are just like the old show. And it's very nostalgic. I thought it was pretty good. Very well done, especially compared to the Star Trek Black Lives Matter show, which I didn't think was actually. Black Lives Matter. I still have a hard time believing that's what it was really called. You're Josh and me, no doubt. Maybe, maybe not. Maybe, maybe not. Gotcha. All right, let's see.

52:17 Maybe just a brief update on Spexit as that would be taking place. This Sunday, is it this Sunday? Spexit. Spexit, yeah. Is that what they're calling it? I'm calling it that, the Spexit. Okay. This is... They had an actual name for it. Catalonia wants to leave, they want a referendum. The Spanish government says you are not having a referendum. As tensions mount over Catalonia's independence referendum, local authorities are now clashing with Spain's central government over who controls police in the region. Madrid wants the Catalan police force to be temporarily placed under its command to help stop the vote scheduled for October 1st. Neither side shows any sign of backing down. Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy insists the referendum has been declared illegal and should not go ahead.

53:07 There won't be a referendum because no democracy in the world can accept to see its constitution, its law and its national sovereignty wiped out. To go ahead with this referendum is ridiculous and frankly is causing unnecessary tension. The head of the Catalan regional government, Carles Puigdemont, remained defiant. Of course we will vote. Who can doubt that? In this country there are policies reminiscent of totalitarian regimes, such as blocking web pages that are totally illegal, far from criminal, whose only purpose is to help people know where they can vote. The political fever has reached universities, with hundreds of students occupying a campus in Barcelona to protest the government's crackdown.

53:59 More demonstrations are expected on Sunday. I wish I had more information on how exactly they were blocking these websites where you could get information on where to vote. Do they have something similar to Turkey where they can just flip on the firewall and block a couple of domain names? I have no idea, probably. That would be my guess. Jean-Claude Juncker the drunker made a little boo-boo, little boo-boo, Got a clip a news story about it because the clips are all in French and German But he in essence said yeah

54:33 Yeah, you know the EU will recognize any country that spawns out of any other country if you're in the if you're in a member state no problem people went The European Commission has no idea independence referendum after Jean-Claude Juncker appeared to say that he would support a yes vote the Commission says what the EU chief meant to say was that he would support any vote that was legally a sanctioned. Franz Timmerman, the Vice President of the Commission said, if within the framework of this constitution new realities are created in the member states, these new realities will also be realities for the EU, which will act on the basis of these new realities.

55:11 In Catalonia yesterday there was a moment of euphoria with pro-independence campaigners after Juncker was questioned by YouTubers on Euronews. But he has now insisted that the vote would have to be sanctioned by the Spanish Parliament and the Constitutional Court. It's typical, you let the guy go do a YouTube interview and then he messes it up. They need to learn over there. They should keep him off the air. Definitely. Oh, while we're talking about the EU, I need to make a correction. I said about Denmark, I said That Anders Breivik was from Denmark, he was of course from Norway. Yeah, Norway. Yeah, I made mistakes, I want to correct that. I guess I'm new to Saudi Arabia, they're gonna let women drive and I've got a report... What? Well there goes the traffic. That's what I'm thinking. So I've got a report that I have the alternate ending that seems to have been cut out of the report shown to the national network. How interesting. And a surprise... Sorry.

56:06 You want to set it up? Yeah, just driving in Saudi Arabia, CBS. In a surprise today, Saudi Arabia's king ordered that women there finally be allowed to do something they do in every other country on earth, drive cars. Holly Williams is in Istanbul tonight. Holly? For over two decades now, a determined group of Saudi Arabian women have been protesting against the ban on them driving by illegally taking to the road. Some of them posting videos of that online. I met with some of those women in Saudi Arabia in 2014 and they told me that the freedom to drive was symbolic in a country where they have very few rights. Saudi Arabia is of course an ultra-conservative state. One Muslim cleric claimed that driving would harm

56:52 women's reproductive organs. But things are very gradually changing for Saudi women. They're now permitted to vote in local elections. They're allowed to play sport at school and more and more of them are going to university. Anthony. Holly Williams in Istanbul tonight. Thanks Holly. Wow, this is a big deal. Yeah, it is a big deal. And there was an alternate ending I found for this report by Hawley. And it was, I think because it was maybe offensive or I don't know why but it was cut out. I thought it should have been used because it was very funny. Inside Saudi Arabia though, there's still opposition. One Muslim cleric recently claimed that women shouldn't drive because many of them only have a quarter of a brain.

57:42 Alright, you get one. Well deserved. Ha ha! Clip of the day! Ha ha! Ah, the truth is harsh. My goodness. Now, why was that not in the full report? That's fantastic. I don't think, I think somebody thought, I think they have editors at CBS, the CIA, and they didn't think it was a good idea. Well, with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for cars driven by women, Dvorak. In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry. Also in the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, and subs in the water. In the morning everybody, in the chat room, noagendastream.com. Good to have you all in there this morning helping us out as usual. And I want to say in the morning to Illuminati, who brought us the artwork for episode 9 or 6, 7, Dotard.

58:41 and, or dotard we should say, and it was the B grade male, the B grade American male, which was so perfect. Grade B. Grade B. So I've got a new tube. Oh, fantastic. See here's my old tube, hello, hello, hello, and here's the new tube. Hello, hello, hello. Do the new one? Hello, hello, hello. And the old one? Hello, hello, hello. Sounds pretty much the same. Well, maybe to you. Well, I'm happy you like it, the new one. I thought that was a bigger sound. Maybe not. Maybe not so much over the Skype. It's the Skype submission. Yeah, I blame them. Okay, we do have a few people thanking for producing show 968, I believe. Is it 68? I think, I hope. Is it? 968, correct? Yeah.

59:37 Starting with Mervin Britain Mervin Britain's in Bellevue, Marvin, Marvin, Britten. Oh Marvin. Yes, sorry Marvin and Bellevue, Nebraska 400 bucks and And he's gonna become a knight, I think. Yeah, no stepping up for my, yeah, no. Stepping up for my cheap wine and chili dogs. This was originally Dame Yano's one-time request for her knighthood, but knowing for Adam's love of alliteration, I suspect he may make use of it here and there. Okay. Please knight me a Sir Stavard Ironbrand.

1:00:15 pronounce Stayvard. Okay, Stayvard. No subtitle needed. Adam blessed me with a great pre-stream for the episode 967 and I vowed to finish my knighthood on the spot. I am known as Spot the Spook in the chat room. Spot the Spook, yeah. And tune in live as much as being, tune in live as much as possible being a dude. Come off it, John, and unmask. We know you, it's you, damn it. Wait my agent just dude named Ben. Is that what you're looking for? He says he whether you go back and reread this because I skipped a line My agent job put me in the middle of the magic circle where the tech grouch Come off it John and unmatched. We know you it's you and the greatest hair ever on MTV make a logical crossover Thank you for all the work and dedication you both put in but especially for Adams standing outstanding attention to sound quality and

1:01:11 He shames most podcasts with the best damn noise gates and big voice enhancements. That's our own voice, man. We're not, we're not enhancing anything. It's just our own voices. You don't really need to. And when you got pipes like this, you don't need to, man. Sorry for the long note, but this is my nighting episode clip request as follows. Just Adam saying live. If you want the hard stuff, you can get it right here. Referring to the MTV 1988 blooper reel. Yeah, that's a good one. 448 mark. If you haven't seen it, go to my YouTube channel. It's up there somewhere. A service goat scream, Reverend Manning boom shakalaka, and a full Trump's job karma. All right. If you want the hard stuff, you can get it right here.

1:02:07 Ding-a-ding-a-doom-doom-chagalagalaga-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-chagalaga-boom-boom. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! And jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. Thank you for your courage and your support Marvin. The ceremony coming up. Sir Chancey from the netherworld in Worcester, Massachusetts 33150. Sir Chancey from the netherworld here. The job karma worked wonders and I would now like to request some moving karma for our move to New York City. Really?

1:02:45 It's from Bob from the Boston from Massachusetts to New York. That should be good for a laugh nice move if there are any upcoming in a meetups there I'd love to know no, but I get it the one the sir Nate as Sir did Nate GQ he canceled the meetup that this was coming up. Yeah, so from people who want to do one. Yes, all right What is your fear is freedom? Yeah, fear is free and no karma. I And the answer he says, plays in for job karma, dealer's choice. Do I get the right guy here? Oh yeah, yeah, you got it. Okay, I got it. And you will all surrender to them. You pigs and humans. That's right, and here's your moving karma. You've got karma. Sir JD Baron of Silicon Valley's next $233.32. He'll make us our, he'll make the sole, he'll be the only, the one and only associate executive producer on today's, uh,

1:03:55 Lame donation day. Dear Mutt & Jeff, here's some value for value from Barron of Silicon Valley. Keep up the great work. Please play these jingles for some job karma. Dealer's Choice plus Reverend Manning whoop-em, little girl yay and jobs karma. Bonus points if John does some Mutt & Jeff SF history lessons on ranting. You want to start with that? I don't have any Jeff SF history lessons on ranting. Jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma.

1:05:00 I've played the long version since we have a very short donation segment today. Well, I do have a note to read then okay This is from Thomas for who was our for a Who was did an instant night on? 96 what was the number? of A copy of the emails include this letter along with my accounting and so on. My title request, that's what we left out. So we can put that in, I think, as a beginning. At least share it between yourselves as it states my appreciation for you both and the podcast put forth twice a week. We're all gonna die. P.S. I'm sending this as fear my email is overlooked again.

1:05:54 So here's the email, which was apparently overlooked again. I apologize. It did not. This all came in the mail. I apologize and not include a note with my donation of last Sunday show reason being the trials, the previous donations. I had never been able to successfully attach a note, but PayPal, all this, which baffles me. If anybody can't attach a note to the normal links that I put in the, in the newsletter, please send me a note including what computer you're using software and browser. Just vaguely telling me it doesn't work doesn't help. I mean, I've never asked for that before, but now I am because this comes up too often. It's a MailChimp issue, I take it. No, I don't know. It wouldn't be a MailChimp issue. You get it, the link goes right to the PayPal link. Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay. And then when you go to that link, it says, here's your put in your amount. And then when you click yes, it should jump you to a page that you can put in a note.

1:06:52 Noted to got a guy ender and and Tommy have people some people seem to be able to put in a you know it a war in peace They can type that in some people who can't get two lines in and some people can't get anything I never get to know it so I like to know why You know what I'm guessing I'm guessing that it's people who do it on their phone and get a mobile version versus the full full-blown version That is one possibility. I haven't looked at it, but it just struck me. And does Tommy want, does he have a night name? Well, here's, let me, I think you might be onto something because you get some, you get a bunch of data. I get a lot of bunch of data and some people, one piece of information is that half of the people getting the newsletter read it on their phone.

1:07:38 So you might be right. Let me just finish this note. Also, trust me, truth be told, after returning home from the Rice versus University of Houston game Saturday night, the Bayou bucket, I was doing a little more post-game celebrating than I should. That equated to slipping on some 1835 bourbon while doing laundry and watch MST3K on Netflix. Yeah, I need some relationship karma for my social life. We'll give him that now. Therefore, my slightly altered state, I did not want to attempt to send a note I sent a note which I knew would only have resulted in me waking in the cold sweat wondering, ah shit what did I say to those guys? Like the time I called into the Nick the Rat show pretending to be Alex Jones, which seemed to be the right thing to do at the time. Anyway, I've been a listener since show 530 when

1:08:31 When a YouTube search for theories behind Michael Hastings death resulted in cover art that contained the demolished car 530 I checked I listened I was I was hooked I too like so many other listeners grew up watching mr. Curry on the MTV's and after being introduced to the surly mr. DeVore arc wondered how did I ever get along without him? I'm proud to sit in the table with all the other dames and knights. However, I take even more pride in knowing that I'm contributing to truly the best podcast in the universe. Thank you, gentlemen, for the insight analysis and on and on. Sir Thomas J. of the Bayou City. Sir Thomas J. of the Bayou City. OK, and he'll be a black knight since he was a... He was knighted, so he's not a black knight, but I think he needs to be re-knighted.

1:09:20 Okay, or we think we could take a u-turn and we could say he could be reunited. Ho ho ho! We'll just night him. What's that black night on my prep sheet? Well that Eric is is assuming we didn't night him already. Eric needs to take a knee. Take a knee Eric. This is a new thing. I'm gonna say hey, hey, hey take a knee. That you watch people start using it. I like it. I like yeah, I like oh, well you just did I just like it Hey take a knee Eric is it an insult nobody who cares doesn't matter just sounds funny and you know you and I were talking after the last show and Yeah, cuz we're coming up on our 10th anniversary, which is is that October 26th? Yeah, I believe so so that that's 10 years. We've been doing this show a large portion of it two shows a week and

1:10:14 More than half, yeah. Yeah. I think we both agree that what we had not expected from this...well, first of all, I don't know if we ever even...we're not invested in any outcome as far as...at least I wasn't, so, you know, to be doing this 10 years later is pretty phenomenal. With the support of the producers, the listeners, the people who actually make it because they do almost all the work. We just kind of breeze in, you know, five minutes to show time and just have to read and talk. It's very easy. Yes, everyone should do it. But when people send us emails and they say, you have changed my life, you have really helped me through dark times, especially now, just hearing that you put some humor into it, you ridicule as much as you can, and it just kind of brings, it ratchets things down for people. It's easy for you to say. Not really.

1:11:10 And I think we both agree that's really probably the biggest reward. Yes, that actually didn't take place right away. No, oh no. No, it was years before that happened. Well, I think it's only recently. I think during the last election, as we were deconstructing more than ever, it's like if you remember the old Jon Stewart show, The Daily Show, he always did his best work during election cycles. Yeah, because there was more material. And if anything, while people were feeling better about the M5M bullcrap and hearing deconstruction after deconstruction, if anything it hurt us financially. But I don't know if we can do 10 more years, but I look forward to a couple more years of this.

1:12:02 Well, as long as we get the support we need, it will continue. That's a given. It's the value for value model, which means if you get any value out of this, just send it to us. I can tell you how much it should be. We have some suggestions. You can find that at... Dvorak.org slash n. And... We'll be thanking more people in our second segment later on the show and remember that we do have another program coming up on Sunday. It'll be an interesting day, show day, when we have Spexit taking place. All you need to do is say, hey, you know what? Propagate. Our formula is this. We hit people in the mouth. Backtrack false. Shut up! Shut up, snake. That jingle's been around. Sure has. That defines the show. Amongst many other fine pieces of art.

1:13:05 Yes, created by the producers of the show. So let's go to CBS. All right. And they're going to start to do this month. They started to notice this on CBS as I really is the station to get your news from. You mean if you want the the the agenda official, if you want to know what's going on with what the elites are thinking? Yeah, I really want to know what's going on. You got to go to CBS. So this is another doing this monthly blast of Trump. A monthly blast? Does it have a chiron, a lower third? The monthly blast. Kind of. Let's play it. Work has begun on the president's signature campaign prompt. This is the clip? Monthly, I think so, yeah. No, I don't think so. I don't think, no, no, I'm sorry.

1:13:50 This is it. Oh, you got the wrong one. Yeah, I got the- I realized I had the wrong one. Okay, they- they introduced it as- Okay, I got it here. I got it here. Start of autumn has not been kind to the president. Dean Reynolds now on the misplays of the week. Misplays of the week! Last Friday, Mr. Trump may well have sent- Oh wait, so they're taking over and there's like, hey, let's do some NFL-like stuff. We'll call it a play and we'll kind of do- Is that what they're doing here? I guess so. Last Friday, Mr. Trump may well have sensed that a bad stretch was about to unfold. And I'll be honest, I might have made a mistake. Actually, backing the loser in the Alabama senatorial primary wasn't an isolated setback. His decision to pick a fight out of nowhere with NFL players kneeling in protest during the national anthem. Get that son of a bitch off the field right now.

1:14:39 he's fired. Resulted in more gridiron genuflections on Sunday. Yet the president appeared to relish the fight. In one of 25 tweets on the NFL, he wrote, booing fans had shown great anger toward the players. By Monday, five days after Hurricane Maria obliterated Puerto Rico, he was still tweeting about the NFL while insisting it did not preoccupy him. I've heard that before about was I preoccupied. Not at all. Not at all. I have plenty of time on my hands. When he did turn to Puerto Rico, he lamented its old electrical grid and the billions it owes to Wall Street.

1:15:18 Amidst stories of deprivation, he said the U.S. relief effort was getting great reviews. Everybody has said it's amazing the job that we've done in Puerto Rico. We're very proud of it. And this despite difficult geography. This is an island sitting in the middle of an ocean. And it's a big ocean. It's a very big ocean. You can't just drive your trucks there from other states. Then today, after the latest congressional failure to repeal Obamacare, The president informed a crowd here in Indiana that repeal could actually have passed. We have the votes on Graham Cassidy. In fact, the repeal effort never had the votes to pass and yet he tweeted this morning, virtually no president has accomplished what we have accomplished in the first nine months.

1:16:05 But a new poll out from Quinnipiac University today begs to differ. It found 57% of voters disapprove of Mr. Trump's handling of the job, 56% find him unfit to serve, and 51% say they are embarrassed to have him as president. Anthony? Dean Reynolds, thank you Dean. Yeah, lopsided. Yeah, you know and the first thing I would like to point out because there's a lot of this, you know, no one showed up There's no one here you hear what the response is. It's a logistically not very easy Here's the thing that I missed during Irma in Puerto Rico You know why cuz it's very hard to get there

1:17:00 No one was out. They're all there now. I know, but no one was out then. No, they weren't. But you'd think they have local reports they could send in, but they couldn't. I think they... And I don't know that it's an... I thought there was a smart grid in Puerto Rico. It didn't look like it from the video I saw. And by the way, nice editing they did there with Trump. You know, like, I said fire that son of a bitch! You know, they edit it completely out of context. Well, yeah, everything's out of context with CBS. Well, the main thing that bothers me is this is being politicized as we speak all over television. I have a compilation I didn't make it but I think this is a great compilation to play and it's about the Jones Act. The Jones Act, what it did was it put into place where only American made and crewed and staffed ships could bring goods to Puerto Rico. As a result, that's raised the prices. We can suspend the Jones Act so that when you look at the ports and the shipping... The Jones Act has some very strict restrictions on

1:17:58 The Jones Act, let's lift it and you know something Chris, it can't be for a couple of weeks. And suspend the Jones Act permanently. The people of Puerto Rico need supplemental funding not next week, today. The Jones Act must be waived. We have been asking for an exemption, a waiver for the Jones Act. What the president needs to do is tell Congress to lift the Jones Act. Waiving the Jones Act would free up the ability to get supplies more quickly. There is a law, the Jones Act, should it be lifted to give Puerto Rico more options for importing what it needs at this desperate time? Now, I was very puzzled by this.

1:18:48 The Jones Act, established in 1920, was intended to promote shipping by US-owned and operated vessels only. Now that has some unintended consequences, of course. It's very expensive to ship things from the US mainland to Puerto Rico. I think it is, at least. That's what they're saying. I don't see why it would make any difference. If it's hard to get there, if it's hard to do things, why do we have to have, why do we have to change this? Whatever, I mean, it may be a horrible law, I don't know. Well, the Jones Act is, I think there's even an extension of it which applies to air carriers, which make it so you cannot fly Cathay Pacific from San Francisco to New York.

1:19:35 Even though Cathay Pacific may be going from San Francisco to New York to London and you can go from San Francisco to London on Cathay Pacific. But you can't go to, even though it stops in New York, you can't get off because they don't want our air carriers competing with quality air characters like Cathay Pacific. And the Jones Act says that you can't have shippers go from port to port that are from wherever outside the country. They can go from China to San Francisco, but they can't go from San Francisco to Los Angeles. Moving goods from San Francisco to Los Angeles on a foreign carrier. I don't see what the big deal is. No. But I do have, I agree with you.

1:20:22 to drop the Jones Act is, I don't know what the point is. And here's what gets me. Your befuddlement seems to be almost on purpose by the media. I want to play my clip and I'm going to, as an editor, I would refuse to push this clip. This is an ABC clip discussing the Jones Act and you'll see what my problem is when you play it. And Eva Pilgrim back with us live again tonight from Puerto Rico. Eva, some members of Congress are now asking Homeland Security to waive what's called the Jones Act, which forbids foreign ships from transporting goods from one point to another in the U.S.

1:21:01 That's right, David. For Hurricanes Harvey and Irma, a waiver of that act was granted. The president says he's considering the same for Hurricane Maria, but that a lot of shippers and people who work in the shipping industry don't want it waived. The president is planning to visit Puerto Rico on Tuesday. David. Eva Pilgrim and our team in Puerto Rico tonight, Eva, thank you. Okay. Okay, here's my problem. Just the basic journalistic what, when, where, why kind of thing. She says that a lot of shippers don't want it waived. The question that comes immediately to mind is why? Exactly why? Can you tell us why? Yes. And that's what Muir should have asked her. No, they don't tell us anything. That's nuts. They just say a bunch of shippers don't want it waived. They're assholes. They're white nationalists. I'm telling you, they're bigoted, racist.

1:21:52 What kind of report is this? This is the kind of crappy report we get from these networks because there's somebody at the editorial level that doesn't have the sense to say, can you explain that? Why just a couple of sentences is not going to take forever. Right? No, no, just drop it. Boom. There's some people don't want it. Boom, we're done. I was very annoyed by that report. I can tell. Yeah, if I clipped everything that annoys me, we'd just be... we wouldn't have... We'd just be annoyed all the time. Yeah, we'd just have three hours to sleep and rest twice a week, and the rest would just be show. Jeez.

1:22:32 I have another poor report. I have a poor report and then a really bad ISO on ABC. Does ABC again? Yeah, it seems to be your favorite irksome network. This is the poor report by ABC on secured borders. Tonight here ABC News obtaining some of those ads bought on Facebook by Russian agents. Facebook admitting they were paid more than a hundred thousand dollars by Russian companies during the election. Tonight you're gonna see the ads for yourself and were the Russians at it again just within the last week during the debate over the NFL. ABC's chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross with what those ads said.

1:23:17 Tonight, ABC News has obtained some of the posts and ads congressional investigators say the Russians planted on Facebook as part of the Kremlin effort to help get Donald Trump elected. Americans would have no idea what they were reading was written by the Russians. They rail against illegal immigrants. This one warns against so-called refugees jeopardizing our national security. This ad uses a popular cartoon. Dora the Explorer knows how easy it is to cross the US border. It's like a children's game. With this line, we need to stop this badness. We need Trump. The ads supposedly come from a group called Secured Borders. But congressional investigators say there is no such group. That they were in fact created by Russian companies which paid more than $100,000 to Facebook to post them during and after the election.

1:24:08 Their goal was to spread dissension, was to split our country apart. And they did a pretty good job. Many of the ads investigators say came from an operation in St. Petersburg, Russia, in this building where young Russians are hired to send out fake news. A former employee says she took the- Wanted. We need people to send out fake news. Took this undercover video- Since you stopped- Yes. Something I just noticed. That was Warner, one of the guys on one of the intelligence committees. It sounded like Morel, but it wasn't. That's why I wanted to stop this, because I just realized that the milieu

1:24:50 Yes, Mike Morrell, deputy, and he was before he retired, acting director of CIA. So we have the sound of Mike. Sounds just like him. I gotta roll that back now. Because he is in the milieu. In the milieu. The spook milieu. Ooh, that's a good tell, isn't it? I think so. Hmm. ...came from an operation in St. Petersburg, Russia, in this building where young Russians are... I think I have to go back further to get him. Somewhere here. was to split our country apart and they did a pretty good job. Many of the ads investigators say came from an operation in St. Petersburg, Russia in this building where young Russians are hired to send out fake news. A former employee says she took this undercover video inside when she worked there in 2015 hoping to expose the operation where the so-called trolls worked 12-hour shifts.

1:25:49 The former employee, Lyudmila Savchuk, told ABC News Facebook was one of their main platforms. According to investigators, the ads show their slant pro-Trump, anti-Clinton. Their targets? Voters in specific areas of key swing states. How do they have that level of specificity? That's one of the questions we need answered. That is the question tonight. Brian with us, who helped the Russians target those ads. particular swing states, swing voters that were so important in this election. And today there was one Republican senator who even said there's a possibility that the Russians are still at this, even weighing in during the NFL debate in recent days. Yes, David, on Capitol Hill today, Senator James Lankford, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, says Russian trolls have been busy tweeting on both sides of the issue, trying to raise the noise level, he said, and push divisiveness in the country. And by the way, this morning President Trump tweeted that he considers Facebook to be anti-

1:26:42 Wow, do these people believe what they're saying? I guess they do. Of course they do. Now this one thing he says- And even if it's true. So? So what? There's Americans who are much better than the Russians at trying to change people's minds online. I would say that's true. And he said this thing, he said this one line in there, we need Trump. That was not in the ad. Huh. We need Trump. There was no mention of Trump in any of the ads. Oh, really? Yeah, that was in a comment somebody that's nasty prefaced the ad with Typical it was like somebody wrote that in but it wasn't in the ad and because there's nothing about Trump in any of the ads Which make me think that these none of these ads are illegal by any means because there's no they're never promoting Trump They're just promoting issues. Yeah now that another poor aspect of this was mirrors read and

1:27:39 Muir reads, and you didn't notice it but I did, Muir reads when he brings the correspondent in to sit there, because he likes to do this bit where he's sitting at the table with the guy, and the guy has a few last things to say and it seems so important. Listen to this ISO where he unknowingly, he reads, he does a bad read and unknowingly blames the guy for the Russian ads kind of. Listen to this. Brian with us who helped the Russians target those ads to particular swing states, swing voters that were so important in this election. Wait a minute, wait a minute, let me hear it again, let me hear it again. Brian with us. Hold on, I just want to listen again. Brian with us who helped the Russians target those ads to particular swing states, swing voters that were so important in this election.

1:28:22 Hey, you did that man. We got him Brian's with us who helped the Russians. We got him barely Brian Ross helped the Russians So it so so Muir misread the line on the off the prompter because it should have been Brian's here with us Brian who helped her, you know, there's something anything but he did he ran through it and Hurriedly, much like Amy Goodman does on Democracy Now where she runs stories together, and you end up with this kind of botch. And even though it's like nothing anybody catches, I caught it. And I think subconsciously it sounds as though Brian's the bad dude.

1:29:05 may not be far from the truth. He helped the Russians! Well, I would say that the mainstream media was very complicit in trying to change people's minds in the election. Maybe that's why they're so hell-bent on blaming Facebook. If anyone really goes in and looks what was done, and history may tell. You know? Yeah, alright. Well, the clip that I misfired before that was the wall. I want to hear that one. Yeah, this is a CBS report on the wall and which is going to get built somehow. But now they're doing prototypes and they're bitching about that. This isn't just kind of CBS moaning and groaning about Trump in some sort of way or other. Yeah, interestingly now, for some reason I can't. Oh, here it is. I couldn't find it again. Work has begun on the president's signature campaign promise, a border wall with Mexico. U.S. taxpayers are funding it. Maria Villarreal checked it out.

1:30:07 Along the dusty roads between the San Diego-Tijuana border, contractors are racing to build their versions of what Trump's border wall will look like. The winner potentially taking home two federal contracts totaling $600 million. The prototypes will be between 18 and 30 feet high and stretching 30 feet long. Contractors will have a month to build them. Each version could cost up to $500,000. Less than a few miles away from the construction site, we saw a man trying to outrun Border Patrol agents after illegally jumping the fence. Juan Gomez says he crossed illegally from Mexico to find a better future for his family in the United States. Carlos Diaz is with the Department of Homeland Security. Our objective is to give the Border Patrol here, securing the borders, the best tools available for them to be able to secure the border. So what we have right now isn't good enough anymore? Well, we're always looking to evolve. By the way, the wall is happening, folks, okay? Believe me.

1:31:13 So far, President Trump has asked Congress for $1.6 billion. It's unfortunate that the president is misleading the American public. Christian Ramirez represents more than 60 human rights organizations along the border that oppose the wall. A border wall has not made us safe here. Drugs are still being pushed into this country through tunnels and through the ports of entry while we're spending millions of dollars in building prototypes. Experts estimate President Trump's bigger border security plan, which could include the border wall, could cost upwards of $40 billion. Anthony? Mireya Villarreal, thanks. Build the wall! Build the wall! You know, this guy says, the guy who came out and did make some commentary at the end, he says he represents 60 human rights organizations along the border. Yeah. What, can't they consolidate? Well,

1:32:09 I'm sure they receive funding from similar places. That's the model. You have your big foundation and then you hand off anywhere from $200,000 to $2 million a year to all these smaller organizations and you coordinate it and it works really well. That is the Soros model. I don't know if he's behind this, but that is the Soros model. Of course he's behind it. I haven't looked into it so I don't want to say for sure, but there is some border talk in the EU now as well. with some change in the rules. You know, there's still a big crisis going on. What should we do? But we had the open borders, no borders, no nations. How are we going to deal with this? The EU says countries in its passport-free travel area should be able to bring back border controls, but only in the event of persistent security threats

1:33:04 and for no longer than three years. The European Commission says the proposal should only be used as a last resort. The EU's Migration Commissioner. With our proposal today, we strengthen and preserve a coordinated approach to the process of reintroducing internal border controls in exceptional cases. This approach allows us to prevent abuses and make sure that everyone plays by the rules. The move follows terror attacks and the 2015 migrant crisis. Members of the 26-country Schengen travel area can reintroduce checks now. The current limit is six months that can be extended to two years in exceptional circumstances. Keyword is exceptional.

1:33:50 exceptional circumstances. And I wanted to know what those were. You know, I've read the Lisbon Treaty. I'm always interested in reading any legislation, certainly from the EU, because they make it pretty easy to understand. And if you look at Article 20, well, if you look at the entire Schengen Agreement, the word exceptional appears 11 times, but 9 of those 11 times is to relax external borders. Listen to this. So if you're coming into the EU from, if I were coming in from Austin,

1:34:27 External border I cross into the Netherlands or London. Border checks at external borders may be relaxed as a result of exceptional and unforeseen circumstances. Such exceptional and unforeseen circumstances shall be deemed to be those where unforeseeable events lead to traffic of such intensity that the waiting time at the border crossing point becomes excessive and all resources have been exhausted as regards staff, facilities and organization. So then you can, they don't have to like, okay just go on in. I don't think people realize this. I didn't realize it until right now. Now I will read article 23, which is the temporary reintroduction of border control at internal borders. I also did not know this existed. Where there is a serious threat to public policy or internal security, a member state may exceptionally reintroduce border control at

1:35:18 as its internal borders for a limited period of no more than 30 days for the foreseeable duration of the serious threat. If its duration exceeds the period of 30 days in accordance with the procedure laid down in Article 24 or in urgent cases laid down in Article 25, the scope and duration of the temporary reintroduction of border control at internal borders shall not exceed what is strictly necessary to respond to the serious threat." So it's only 30 days and now they're asking for six months. And that means internal borders go back up everywhere. That blows the whole- I mean, that really blows out of the water. You get six months, people start to forget it. Like, eh... Maybe we should just renew that quietly.

1:36:03 Maybe. That's very interesting. This is the core of the European Union experience is being ripped apart. Drive right down the street, right into Belgium. And the pro-EU, no nation, no borders people, they should really be talking about it. And they should also be very happy with how we're going to screw high-tech, American high-tech companies out of wanting to be in the EU at all. A plan to harmonize taxes for digital companies will be on the table this weekend when EU finance ministers meet in the Estonian capital Tallinn. France is leading the reform with the so-called equalization tax and has companies such as Amazon in its crosshairs. I'm confident that

1:36:47 At the end of our meeting on Saturday, we will have the support of many other Member States which will share our initiative for the sake of the improvement of the tax framework all over Europe. The proposal has the support of the Germans, Spanish and the Italians. But the trick is to get low-tax members such as Luxembourg on board. And the Netherlands and Ireland? Fortunately, the discussion that they're looking at now is only for a very limited number of corporations. Which means that for the most part we have the problem that we also had yesterday, even if they agree. But the other thing is that it's going to be very hard for them to agree on this because there are several EU member states that actually fight back when there's attempts to try and make multinational corporations pay tax. Earlier this year the EU ordered Apple to pay 13 billion in back taxes after Ireland was accused of giving the corporation preferential treatment.

1:37:48 When we talk about the big global digital companies, the Apples, the Amazons, the Microsoft. I really don't like it when people do that. I mean, we say it as a joke. When they say the Amazons, the Apples, the Microsofts, there's only five companies total you need to name. Do you have to pretend like there's millions of them? The Amazons. I mean, we say it as a joke. What's the other Amazon? Well, we say it as a joke, but these guys are saying it seriously. It's just, I don't know, it's lame. No, they're saying it seriously, but they're also adding the plural. We never say the Amazons. I do. Well, okay, well you don't say the Google. Well, maybe I said all the time. Never mind what I said, but let's just put it this way. Maybe they're implying that there are groups of these companies that are being taxed when there's not maybe Amazon thereafter is Google thereafter. It's it's Apple thereafter. And they're after the countries, mainly the Netherlands and Ireland that have the Dutch reach around whatever it's called the double loop up your butt.

1:38:48 where you get to shelter all of your profits and pay no taxes. Maybe this guy's just a listener. When we talk about the big global digital companies, the Apples, the Amazons, the Microsoft, they're US-based companies. So we know it's a challenge in Europe to have more of those global players that have, let's say, a European foundation. So we need to do more to develop them. And we need to say, making sure that we have the right tax system Generally, but in particular for digital companies, that's part of that story. According to the FT, the French are said to be pushing for a turnover tax to be set at somewhere between 2 and 5% of revenue. Yeah, that's going to go over well. That's a gouge. That's not going to happen. It'd be cheaper to repatriate their money under the proposed Trump tax plan.

1:39:40 Well, if Trump gets it through, there's a lot of resistance for some reason. I don't know why. It seems pretty sensible. Because it's Trump! Yeah, it's just Trump. I do have a report though. Oh good. And this is another example. I did read his proposal. I mean, it's not much different. I want you to talk about it after we play this. But first, I want to see if you can spot the little needle that ABC likes to give him, the little needle, needling him. I want to, it's going to be very hard to spot. But I think you might be able to do it. Okay. But still unanswered tonight, how will he pay for it? And even some Republicans this evening saying this will be even more challenging than their efforts to kill Obamacare. ABC's chief White House correspondent Jonathan Karl leading us off.

1:40:22 After failing yet again to get a Republican health care plan through Congress, President Trump is now promising to deliver on something even more ambitious, a massive new tax cut. There's never been tax cuts like what we're talking about. Details are still sketchy, but the plan calls for slashing the tax on corporations, now 35% to 20%. For individuals and families, reducing the number of tax brackets from seven to just three. Doubling the standard deduction for families, that would mean no income tax whatsoever on the first $24,000 of income. The president insists his plan will benefit the working class and not the wealthy. They can call me all they want. It's not going to help. I'm doing the right thing.

1:41:08 And it's not good for me, believe me. Of course, it's impossible to know how any plan will affect the president because he still has not released his tax returns. But there's one big provision that would clearly benefit the wealthy. He wants to eliminate the estate tax, something that is only paid on estates valued at more than $5.5 million for individuals, $11 million for couples. While Congress will surely make changes in the plan, the president insists there's one thing he won't budge on, that huge tax cut for corporations.

1:41:46 The president doesn't explain how he'll pay for these hefty tax cuts leaving Congress already deeply divided to figure that out Nice setup good payoff I like this Oh God, I need that sound I need the Olga sound I don't have that That's great. Yeah, dicks. Yeah, it's really no different from what he what he campaigned on. In fact, it seems almost identical. I should have compared them side by side. The thing that is added that I think is new is the wealth tax, which is still not, you know, it's not really fleshed out what level that would be at or how that happens, but it's mentioned in there.

1:42:37 I think the corporate tax is the most important thing. I like the idea of it being six pages. I thought it was going to be two, but I guess it's going to be six pages and then you can just do your taxes. That'd be nice. That'll be the day. If it were that easy. But I don't see, I mean, I guess they can pass it if they have, if everyone's on board, they have the votes, but there's so many traitors in the party and on both sides. But I just don't think, I don't think they'll pass anything. The Democrats are going to fight and fight and fight and just not make, you know, I heard Chuck Schumer, who was it? Schumer. I think it was Schumer. Schumer saying like, you know, this is give all the money to Wall Street, screw the little guy. That's really doesn't say that at all.

1:43:24 No, and the $25,000 $24,000 standard deduction is a huge deal. Nice. For everybody. It's double. It's double what it was. The rich guys don't care about that. No. And I'm not, I believe, although, see the point is, this is just an introduction. Here's what I want. Here's what it should be. And now that has to go into the House and they're going to debate it. I'm sure it'll be Congress. It'll be convoluted and crap. There's no question in my mind that the 35% rate for corporations, except for certain ones like General Electric, seem to skirt it somehow. Some of the defense contractors get around it. That is hurting the country. I agree.

1:44:06 Yeah, I agree. That's got to go. And the Democrats want to keep it so they can get their outsource buddies. I just do not like the fact that this everyone's not on board with this. You're talking about for the wealthy or the richest for the rich. The Democrats are the ones that are rich. Yeah, they're going to fight it. And they know it's not about the rich. I think I think the the the final point will come down to if they get that far, we'll come down to the inheritance tax. I think that is, that's the one where people are going to go crazy.

1:44:45 Well, yeah, I think they should just go with Bernie's idea of a wealth, straight up wealth tax. Even though I like the way, I don't have any clips, but I like the way it's like countered. People, you know, I listened to the right wing talkers and they then Bernie comes up with a wealth tax, which is I'm all on board with the idea because it would actually lower most people's taxes. And it would also fulfill the desires, the great desires of the super wealthy. Warren Buffett and Bill Gates both, they both said they want to be taxed more. This would do it. I think that's fine. So they're not going to complain. I wouldn't think unless they're full of crap, which is possible.

1:45:21 And the wealth tax, but you listen to the right wing, it's, oh, we've got all these taxes. We already have income tax and property tax and now a wealth tax. No, it's instead of an income tax. There's gonna be no income tax. The idea of an income tax is really bad because it prevents you from accumulating wealth. No, the income tax would be out. It wouldn't be plus. Wealth tax isn't plus income tax. That's not the idea. So these guys are liars, these right-wing talkers. Who else has proposed this kind of idea besides Bernie? The Swiss. The Swiss have had wealth tax for a long time, on and off. Everyone seems pretty happy and wealthy there.

1:46:02 Yeah, the French I think tried to wealth tax but then the upper classes got irked about it and they killed it. Bernie's right now the only one that's even talking wealth tax because everybody poo-poos it. What are you gonna do? Speaking of elites... Ortel is back. I don't have the clip yet, but I'm sure he's gonna show up on a couple of shows and I wanna get some clips from him. He is now tracking my brother's Keeper Alliance. If you recall, that is the non-profit that Obama was involved in and that is now, as Ortel says, is turning into the exact same criminal enterprise the Clinton Foundation is. The exact same model. Charles Ortel is the guy who wrote the book on the Clinton scam. Yeah, he is a well-known financial

1:46:55 Not deconstructionist, but like a forensic forensic analyst. Yeah, exactly. And he does this for a living and he's been doing of course he gets no air, rarely gets air time. on M5N. He shows up on like Democracy Now. So My Brother's Keeper Alliance, he says the way it's starting out the same way just like the Clintons, the Clinton Foundation was originally only for the Clinton Library. And Obama has My Brother's Keeper and that foundation is now absorbing My Brother's Keeper Alliance without appropriate IRS approval to expand the mission

1:47:30 of the nonprofit, which was only for Obama's presidential library. You learn from the best. Yes. Hey, you learn from the best. Hey, Barry. And apparently Obama. Here's what you gotta do, Barry, when you're out. Here's how you do it. I'm sure that's exactly what happened, except he had a better impression. He sounded more like himself. Anyway, sorry, I forgot where I was gonna go ahead there with the same thing or tell Clinton Obama same foundation my brother's IRS Obama we can't forget and everyone talks about this in the kind of under in the background Obama from 2008 onward has accumulated what I'm told is like the largest mailing list of

1:48:20 of anybody ever. He's got like some huge mailing list he's put together from the DNC and from his own campaign efforts and everything else that really just, he's guaranteed a lifetime income of millions of dollars a year easy with that mailing list. Sucking in soot. Nice. Well, he's playing it the same way. Good for him. Good for him. Yeah. We'll keep it. Until some honest person puts a stop to it. It's not gonna happen. Come on. Everybody loves Barry. I have a Barry clip. Now I want you to tell me, did he have open heart surgery? Obama? Not that I know of. I don't think so either. In fact, I found this whole clip. This is on NBC. This whole clip to be kind of odd and in a number of, for a number of reasons. Play this Obama, Malia, Harvard clip.

1:49:14 He was president for eight years, but he'll be a dad for the rest of his life. And like many fathers, Barack Obama had a tough time dropping his daughter off at college. After he told 19 year old Malia goodbye at Harvard, the former president said he was moved to tears comparing the experience to quote, open heart surgery. Welcome to the club, sir. Wow, double tap at the end. Yeah, huh. So now first of all, it's not dropping the kid off at kindergarten where they're crying and they don't want to get on the bus or whatever the situation might be. This is a mature adult going to Harvard. I always thought she was already in Harvard, but okay. She was hanging out in Boston a lot, in Cambridge.

1:48:20 of anybody ever. He's got like some huge mailing list he's put together from the DNC and from his own campaign efforts and everything else that really just, he's guaranteed a lifetime income of millions of dollars a year easy with that mailing list. Sucking in soot. Nice. Well, he's playing it the same way. Good for him. Good for him. Yeah. We'll keep it. Until some honest person puts a stop to it. It's not gonna happen. Come on. Everybody loves Barry. I have a Barry clip. Now I want you to tell me, did he have open heart surgery? Obama? Not that I know of. I don't think so either. In fact, I found this whole clip. This is on NBC. This whole clip to be kind of odd and in a number of, for a number of reasons. Play this Obama, Malia, Harvard clip.

1:49:14 He was president for eight years, but he'll be a dad for the rest of his life. And like many fathers, Barack Obama had a tough time dropping his daughter off at college. After he told 19 year old Malia goodbye at Harvard, the former president said he was moved to tears comparing the experience to quote, open heart surgery. Welcome to the club, sir. Wow, double tap at the end. Yeah, huh. So now first of all, it's not dropping the kid off at kindergarten where they're crying and they don't want to get on the bus or whatever the situation might be. This is a mature adult going to Harvard. I always thought she was already in Harvard, but okay. She was hanging out in Boston a lot, in Cambridge.

1:50:00 But now for some reason he dropped her off. I didn't know that you do that. You hear, here you go, bye. Dropped her off and he's in tears or he's beside himself and he... Well wait, this is first day of college. It's a picture. The guy's a whore. It's a picture moment. That's why he did it. Yeah. To get attention and promote something. Tell me, this is how it works. Well, he was bull crap as far as I'm concerned. You don't get all teary. I dropped your kid off at college. Oh, I just got her first job. Oh, it's not like that first grade. Anyway, the, this, then he drops this little bomb. It felt like getting open. How would he know what open heart surgery feels like unless he had it?

1:50:45 I don't, did he take a vacation? I mean you can be up and about after that after about 10 days. I mean you'll be up, you'll be up at 3. I'm wondering whether he had open heart surgery. And then I get to, I wonder whether Lester Holt knows about it. Yeah, Anker had open heart surgery with him. Or something. Maybe that's when they put the bomb in these guys. Lester Holt open heart surgery. You didn't look that up, did you? No, I didn't. He's a grandfather. No, no, there's lots of links to the you know to him saying that but no hmm interesting It was Lester Holt was out sick in 2015. Well that was back surgery for herniated disc. That's what they're telling you Yeah, it's like no I I went to a spa to relax for a couple months just a spa and

1:51:40 I think people should pay attention to the next movie's out, but the Kingsman, the original Kingsman movie. Can't wait, yes. Well, if you haven't seen the first one, you should see it. I've seen them both, John. We talked about this whole thing. Ah, yes we did, you're right. But people out there should go see the first one or find a good copy of the first one because it's pretty funny and it's pretty funny, period. We finished The Handmaid's Tale. We don't need to go into... I have thoughts on the handmaid's table. Well, most importantly is you had your dinner with the Millennials and I would like to know what you learned and I'll tell you what I learned. Okay. There were two questions presented to Millennials. One was about memes. Yes. And the other one was about McCain. Can I start with memes? Okay. I asked, do you know what a meme is? The answer was immediate.

1:52:33 And was, yes, of course, and this is how they work and this is how they're created and they could be text or pictures. And I said, do you have, do you know, is anything else a meme to you? Answer? No. Okay. Uh, we'll have to circle around back to the handmaid's tale in a moment. Cause I just made no sense as an introduction. Um, cause I thought that was one of the questions, but somehow I got confused. That's okay. We just get this out of the way. So I didn't ask anything about McCain, unfortunately. I know. I'm sorry. All right. So I asked these two questions as instructed. I got kind of the same answer about memes, but everybody knew the other definition of meme. Yeah, they're also real definition. They're also 29.

1:53:16 I got both groups. I got the young group, 21. I got the old group, 30. So the young group maybe because you know when the old group always JC's there so he'll take over. Yes there's another definition that means a societal you know. You know JC is also not your normal typical millennial. He's incredibly intelligent. But they kind of all thought what you predicted. Now my prediction on McCain... Damn, they've been corrupted by you. No, in fact I don't remember ever talking about McCain with these people. And all of them, the young and the old group, both said McCain's a douchebag, the military hates him. Huh.

1:54:01 They had none of what you predicted, a kind of a Bernie Sanders kind of a thing. No, they didn't like McCain. They thought he was a douchebag. And then they wanted to tell me stories about how the military hates him. And I said, nevermind, I don't want to hear the stories. I've heard them. Interesting. And that was that. So you're at 500. You're half and half. Half and half. I'm very disappointed about this memes thing. Of course, I did a bunch of memes myself and put them in the newsletter. Yeah. You are the, you are ground. You really, are you in Macedonia? Cause the newsletters are pretty good. They're very convincing. I have a feeling it's the Dvorak troll farm. Fake news. You know, that would be another thing we could go into maybe as a side business or ultimate retirement. It's just writing stuff for bots and writing memes. We could.

1:54:50 It wouldn't be very hard, we'd probably make more money. Alright, let's go into this. I saw the first and last episode of Handmaid's Tale. I would say it is a depressing Yeah, the ending is kind of interesting. But overall, just watching it one after another after another, I can see somebody going into a funk, a depressive funk. It's a terrible story. It's very, it's dour. I like nothing about it. The acting is good. I wrote down grim, humorless, depressing, and unhealthy. Unhealthy to watch.

1:55:35 Unhealthy to watch and that's what I think you know you've been affected by it, and it's totally anti-christian The whole series is a form of brainwashing to what end I do not know I wrote this down It's done by the evil old Margaret Atwood, and it creates ill will towards men Yes, that wasn't that was what I took away from it now I found a article for the New York Times, of course, written by Atwood. And to show you what a lunatic she is, I'm going to quote the last paragraph. of this article because the basic novel, which was a huge success, and by the way, they're making kids in high school read this novel as part of the brainwashing culture that we're living in. And every millennial I spoke to, female, had read the book. There you go.

1:56:31 So here's what she's actually thinking, because the way the story goes, the heroine records everything over on cassettes or something. And then years later, eons later, somebody finds the cassettes and they say, my God, what a horrible world they lived in. Boom, here we go with the anti-Trump thing. I said boom. In the wake of, this is, I'm reading from Atwood. In the wake of the recent American election, fears and anxieties proliferate. Now, no agenda listeners. Basic civil liberties are seen as endangered, really? Along with many of the rights for women won over the past decades and indeed the past centuries.

1:57:19 Really? In this divisive climate in which hate for many groups seems on the rise and scorn for democratic institutions is being expressed by extremists of all stripes, it is a certainty That someone, somewhere, many I would guess, are writing down what is happening as they themselves are experiencing it. Or how they will remember and record later if they can. Will their messages be suppressed and hidden? Will they be found centuries later in an old house behind a wall? This is a woman who is nuts. Wow.

1:58:03 Interestingly, you could have taken that exact text and published it today, and it would not have seemed that crazy to people. They would have been like, yeah, yeah. This was a recent article by her. Oh, I thought this was back in the day. OK. No, no. This was in the New York Times about a month ago. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't understand that. OK. So she believes that today, yeah, the Trump era and the book make sense together. And she thinks people are sitting around freaked out writing down, oh my God, Trump said son of a bitch today. And then they wrap it up and they stick it in the wall. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Here's the comparison that is beautiful because people are doing that. They are doing it by the hundreds of thousands and their wall is the face bag wall. It's happening. It is true.

1:58:58 I see it. People are completely, they are freaked out about everything he says. And these are people I know very well, worked with intensely for years. So I know them. I'm like, oh my God, they're really, they don't listen to the show, obviously. Apparently not. Hey Adam, good to hear from you. So anyway, I did not appreciate this being pushed into the public consciousness, this series. So thank you for saying that because the response I saw, I told you that Tina was very, you know, it worked on her. It worked. And she said, you know, this is happening. This is happening with women. As I mentioned in my notes, it's a form of brainwashing. It should work. Is this happening to women when it comes to Islam? So she said, you know, and how religion can be misused. But in this case, yes, Christianity is chosen.

1:59:57 The men are... of course she doesn't believe that men are evil, but that is the subtle subtext. And that's what I saw. It was very hard. We weren't really connecting on this. The story is the story, but I'm looking at what is the social message of this. And everything's in there right down to... and here's where it's very obvious. In the book, which I have not read in its entirety, but I did get it to just get a feel for it, there is extreme racism. This is nowhere to be found in the series.

2:00:36 Which is very out of place, which shows my white privilege right there, I'll tell you. I caught myself thinking, wait a minute, so now these two handmaids are, one is pretending to be a Martha, and she's wearing the Martha outfit, but she's black. And they're walking past the A-hole men with the guns, and they don't say anything. I mean, I thought to myself, Well, just my impression from the social status of the characters in the series, I said, self, that would not go because there are no black Marthas. Why didn't they stop her? And then I started paying attention to it. And there's zero racism, zero. That is not the way the book is. There's definitely racism, a huge issue in the book. And that was taken out, I believe, to focus

2:01:25 the consumer on the dominant male issue and religion. Let's not make it about race because everyone's all over that and then my real message will get snowed under. It was taken out. It's very... Yeah, they wanted to focus, a little more focus. This is a media, yeah. Very interesting. Now, I'm not... I would keep a careful eye on the producers of that product. Well, I'm going to continue watching it, even though this is exactly the kind of thing I dislike, because, you know, I don't mind an ongoing series that can go on for seasons and seasons, but if there's some unnatural event, like lost, or, you know, in this case where, you know, something happened and the men are in charge and the women are just, you know, to bear babies and they're horrible,

2:02:13 We're never gonna find out what happened. And I can't sit through three seasons minimally before they come up with some lame ending. I hate that. Well, I'm not gonna watch it. Period. We do have some people to thank for show 968.

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2:07:55 No, no, but it was really weird the Marilyn Monroe She's in a crypt and they got kiss marks all over it and you can see there has been rubbed to death It's unbelievable. So you want to be buried there with I hate to complain. Well, I'm no I didn't finish my story. Oh There are most of the gravestones. They are like Jack lemon. It goes like this says Jack lemon in What's Jack lemon? Oh So they all have little Hollywood jokes? There's all of them, well not all of them, but a good third of them have a joke on their tombstone. This graveyard. I'll get you the name of the place. It's very hard to find. It's obscure, but it's got hundreds and hundreds of incredibly famous people in it. Anyway, onward. Right, nice. So it's not unusual to do a joke on a tombstone.

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2:10:06 Well this I've been getting this call about once a day. It's it's a bogus call. It's got the the the 0 0 0 0 is the call number I pay for the the X on T-Mobile I pay for the directory I I get this For the caller ID I get like scam likely new nuisance likely. It's very cool. I like that. Yeah. So anyway, so they call and it's always the same thing. It's only it's a newer version of the credit card scam. Oh, you know, your credit card, we got a special deal. You can get your credit card reduced and all that sort of thing. And it's just, it's just annoying. I, my latest thing, cause I haven't recorded any of these. My latest thing is I pushed a button one. I let the guy come on and I say to the guy, so when are you going to get arrested for this bullshit?

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2:11:55 Green tambourine and finally Tommy four in Houston, Texas $50 I have a note. No he becomes his night today. Yeah, that's I read the note earlier, okay? Well, fantastic. Again, there you have it. You know, people are saying, thank you for the mental cleanliness. This is this kind of stuff we never expected 10 years ago or five or really two years ago. We weren't even thinking of this. No, this is recent. We are your mental hygienists. And now that we're aware of it, we accept Medicare. It makes us even more conscientious. Makes us more conscientious and everybody. And you are the producers.

2:12:31 the producers of this program. Thank you so much for doing exactly what you do. Also people who came in under $50, that's our cutoff for anonymous donations and we have a lot of people on different subscriptions. You can always see what is going on at devorak.org slash N-A as well as subscribe to the newsletter. It's on the homepage of noagendashow.com. It's in the show notes every single week. Just click on the link and you can subscribe. It's good. John puts a lot of work into it. Yeah, it is a major part of the success of the show. It has. It has contributed to the success. Well, I think it's not so sure. I think I think it's very important. I think it's important. And it just you got to do that kind of work if you want. If you want to make the value for value model work, you have to do that kind of work. We're pre-selling our seminar. That's what we're doing right here. Well, or you could take the Norm Patters route. This story came in yesterday.

2:13:29 I'm a former employee of Podcast One. Now, Podcast One is a podcast network who put together an app and a bunch of podcasts, and it's Norm Pattis. Now, Norm Pattis is a legend in the radio business, and he built Westwood One. Just huge, huge... And he's a radio guy, so radio guys are a little weird. Then, you know, he wants to make this a big success. He wants to be the, you know, the network for podcasts and it's meh. You know, you can't monetize the network. I've said this a million times. Just forget about it. It's not bad. Sorry. It's thematic with you. Yeah, it is thematic. And I'm all in agreement because I, you know, as far as I'm concerned, I've worked at BVO and we've gone through this and I've seen it in action and I'm, you're totally right.

2:14:18 So, there's now two lawsuits going on with a former employee. The story is that the guy says, um, Norm Padas sat me down in his office, pulled out his gun. He's a sheriff, he's a deputy sheriff. Then he's like a police groupie, I think. But, you know, he has all the- maybe he's just doing great for his community, I don't want to downplay it. I don't- but it seems like, knowing radio guys, they're into weird shit. Then, you know, he's a radio guy. So he pulls out his gun, lays it down on his desk with the muzzle pointing towards former employee and says, uh, I want you to, uh, doctor the numbers on the downloads so we could charge more for the advertisements. And apparently the guy did it. But you know, then they got into a whole dispute and he was accused of something. So now this is his story that's coming out and he's counter-suing, I believe. And I, and... All these operations doctor the download numbers. Exactly.

2:15:20 in different ways. Yes. Usually they have a third party do the dirty work. Well, I just pointed out just to show you that this is not going to work. It's just not. Podcasts are great. They're beautiful works of art. To make money, to monetize, you know, you got to think differently. Think differently. Why is it so hard to explain this to people? You have to explain it to them one-on-one pretty much. And one of the other problems is they have all these dozens and dozens of podcast seminars and conventions, and all the podcasters go to these things except us.

2:16:02 I said, you're going to pick up a lifetime achievement or something. You go to it then. But generally speaking, we don't go to any of them. And and you talk to people that go to him and it's just the blind leading the blind. These guys all well, here's how you get your advertising numbers off and here's how you get new advertisers. It's all about advertising. Here's how you get featured on iTunes. Yeah, here's how you get your number on iTunes, you can brag about that, doesn't mean anything of course. And it's all, it's nuts and these guys, which is a problem for a lot of guys who actually want to make some money. And then you find a lot of these podcasts, and we bitch about this constantly, and we're going to get to the birthday in a minute. But you find a lot of these guys, they're, they're, they got too many people working on the podcast to ever make any money.

2:16:46 You can't have a staff, you can't have like, by the way, the Star Trek, the new Star Trek, not the one on TV, but the one on the YouTubes, Star Trek Continues, looks like a real TV production. It's a very well produced show, but you look at the, the staff is huge. It's got, they got everybody, they got the gaffers and the best boys, they got all these people. This is another very important point. You do this whether you do that sort of thing with a podcast thing and it's a radio show you have to produce you'll never make money You'll never make money. You can't make money It's impossible because you can only get the amount of money you could ever get in which is always gonna be mediocre Is not gonna be able to pay these anybody they have to all be volunteers, which is the mistake that a lot of people make

2:17:34 Yeah, you can't get people, you know, volunteers are handy for certain kind of minor things. You can get a lot of people in a group, like our artists, for example, are all volunteers, but we have, you know, there's at least 10 or 20 or 30 people that jump in and out of the idea of doing some art for us once in a while. And it's not like they have to come in every week and do the show, you know, which is a lot of work to produce a show. I'll say. Yeah. Well, luckily we have an idiot savant that produces our show and it's like, it's astonishing at what a job he does. Oh boy. Thank you. I feel good. Nice reach around. I didn't mean idiot savant. I mean a savant. Okay. Well, I'll say this. I've been following this trend, how podcasts and podcast networks are going and I'm saying I'm short podcast jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma.

2:18:34 And we've got a couple of ones on the list today and I want to start off with a special request from Dame Angela from Lost Wages, Nevada. She was at her grandparents birthday the other day and she loved getting a gift. Both of them a happy birthday shout-out. They are about to celebrate their 76th wedding anniversary in October. So we say happy birthday to Josephine Castaneda, turned 96 on September 21st, and Gilbert Castaneda, turned 95 on September 23rd. Happy birthday to both of you. Brian Roediger says happy birthday to his hot wife, Jennifer. She's celebrated on the 24th. Frese Michael celebrates along with Conrad Carpenter, who says happy birthday to his son, Julian, 22 tomorrow.

2:19:21 And David Hutchinson. Happy birthday to his smoking hot wife, Sonia. 50 on October 1st. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. She's going to play a day. Mangell's going to play this bit for he's a World War Two vet. She's got great stories. Oh, can you imagine? Be fantastic. Um, well good news, we have a re-knighting and we have one single knighting so with the re-knighting you kind of need a blade and a half for that. Here's mine. Got it. Marvin Britton! Tommy Floor! Come on up to the podium Tommy! Good to have you here finally and do it officially. Nice, appreciate that. Gentlemen, both of you supported the best podcast in the universe. You might have $1,000 or more and we are very thankful for that.

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2:20:58 By the time we celebrate 10. Oh, and, and, and, and, and, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa. He didn't want to say it, but Sir Bremros, Bemros, who works with Void Zero, and all the guys in the back, and Erinor, he turned 40 last Saturday. He didn't want to send in a note for some reason. You crazy man! Love you. Love the work you're doing. Okay, I'm gonna break. I'm gonna break with the, uh... with the rule. Sorry. Gotta break. Gotta break the rule. It was just too good. What? I gotta play a little Tucker. Ugh. Sorry. I don't know if you saw this last night.

2:21:39 But it popped up today on YouTube. I'm just gonna clip that and it was so good. I just wanted to play it again. Okay, it's a college kid from Denison University. Oh, I saw this too. Yeah, this was it was fantastic. And he's really trying to explain based on an article to explain why violence is taking place to shut down Right-wing conservative even just moderately conservative speakers who seem pretty speakers that you don't like including the hersh of the Jewish lawyer guy of Dershowitz Dershowitz. Yeah, they were you shouting him down weren't they?

2:22:20 Yeah, well they always do that. So first, Tucker asks, you know, tell me what is hate speech? Well, hate speech is speech that comes out of the rhetoric that targets certain groups or individuals because of who they are or their social location in society. And what's more about hate speech is that it usually incites violence and brings harm to these people who white nationalists and white supremacists often target. What I found interesting about this clearly programmed young child, clearly brainwashed, is the use of the word insight. It's now baked in. And I don't think he even knows what it means because insight is the yelling fire in a crowded theater clause, I'll just call it that. So this is propagating perfectly.

2:23:16 that hate speech incites to violence and he explains how the violence comes about and actually defends Antifa, I think that's the example used here, because, well, you know, these guys are talking hate speech and that represents all the violence that the KKK has done. So just listen to this. I just thought it was just unbelievable. So these aren't simple disagreements that we're talking about here. Oftentimes, we were talking about topics of hate speech and free speech. And the way in which rhetoric and speech has become so important is because of the demagoguery that has been witnessed throughout the recent election. And oftentimes, historically, the university has been a place of politics, debate and speech. And so, this is nothing new.

2:24:14 We know that people like to espouse white nationalists and white supremacists' views at campuses around the country and even around the world. But I guess what is, I mean, that's a debatable point that you just made, but the first point you made is not debatable that traditionally colleges have been a place where people can say what they think even if other people disagree. What's new, and I'm old enough to remember it, is that now students like you are saying no, you're not allowed to express those views here. Yes. Yes, it is. It is a new thing and it's because we are now at a space in society where we're concerned for the safety of people, right? And so we have a change in society where we are no longer allowing groups of people to be targeted and come under the harm that How many, just to add Denison, I've been with Denison in Granville, Ohio. How many students have been killed by white supremacists on your campus recently?

2:25:12 Nobody's been killed by white supremacy, but I'm sure that there are a lot of people living under the stress of white supremacy and white supremacist views. There are plenty of white supremacists on the campus of Denison. And if you speak to- Right, but hold on, hold on, hold on. You said that there was the fear of imminent violence. You're conceding there hasn't actually been any violence. So the standard is, if I make you uncomfortable... Well it's not about fear of imminent violence. It's about enabling people to carry out microaggressions rather than... There you go. That's the core issue. This is about enabling people to commit microaggressions.

2:25:51 That's why they need to be beaten down and refused a speaking platform. It's amazing. the use of the n-word, the use of different speech. They're not just talking about people... But what about when you watch television and you see like in Berkeley people with black handkerchiefs over their faces, hitting other people with chair legs or spraying them with bear spray. That's actual violence, I think you'd agree. And there on the left, does that kind of challenge the storyline? Antifa and the violence that's occurred from the left has been entirely reactionary to the white nationalist violence that has come from groups like the KKK and come from white nationalists.

2:26:50 Well, that actually sucked. I'm glad you played it though, because there's one thing I thought was interesting was using the N word. Yeah. It's not a microaggression. Microaggression. That's a macroaggression. A microaggression is asking a cop if he wants a donut. And it's not a good idea. That is not a good idea. We have the same situation today as we had yesterday on the freeway. Something happened and the freeway is stopped dead. All the way to San Francisco and I'm only mentioning this because down, I can see down and there's one street which is a bypass like the front is like a frontage road thing and it's packed. So something's up again today. I mean, this is ridiculous around here. This is the beginning of the depression. I mean, let me play you a

2:27:42 This is a teaser. I didn't clip the story. I just clipped the teaser because the teaser says it all which is often the case. This is the Salinas tease. Okay. Top story, financial trouble for the city of Salinas. How do we keep this city sustainable so we don't have to fight bankruptcy? Why city leaders are concerned about going broke. Ha, there it is. There's your Armageddon trigger. That's one of them. They already said that so the bond market is freaking out right now there. Everyone's getting out of bonds because They think that they'll be less yield

2:28:23 in treasuries than other opportunities with the lower taxes. I don't know what I'm talking about, but that's it. No, you don't. Do you? They're actually getting into bonds. Bonds are still hanging in there. When they get out of bonds, that's going to be the show. We're going to be talking about it. That's going to be the show. I don't know if it's going to be like the end of the show, but it'll be the show. We'll be talking about it because it's going to be, I don't know how we're going to do it, but you'll probably read a bunch of stuff that'll be interesting. It's going to be such a panic when it starts to go that it's going to be the show. We're going to be doing it. I'm not going to be just mentioning it. It's going to be a lot of the show. I'm just even going to find that article where I read about that. I was like, hmm, that's interesting. Oh, maybe it was here. Hold on. Yeah. Is Trump's tax plan proposal driving

2:29:14 The bond market sell-off a global bond sell-off spread from the US to Germany on Wednesday With analysts and traders pegging the action to new detail details of President Donald's tax reform. Yeah, it's not well, maybe Well, I've been that's I mean a global sell-off is not a big deal and gold gets bought and sold globally You know all the time and it's the same headline so maybe nothing but it would be a good to have a little catalyst you know throw in a bit of a Throw in a bit of real bond problems. And what county was that? Salinas is down in Monterey County, I think. But you know, this is going to happen everywhere. I think Hartford, Connecticut are one of the big towns in Connecticut has been bitching about this. They're going to go broke.

2:30:05 What was I gonna say? And what it's gonna reveal, my source on this says, who's an auditor for a major city in the Bay Area. He says what it's gonna reveal when these cities go broke one after the other is they're gonna have to roll out their numbers and they're gonna notice that the police departments and the fire departments, the chiefs, are making so much money that people won't put up with it. And not in every town, but in most of the towns. Like when Vallejo went bankrupt some years ago, everyone was irked about the fact that the chief of police and the chief of the fire department were making $450,000 a year. This sort of thing. It's not going to go over well. It appears our Trump M5M cycle was spot on.

2:30:54 Although it's, you know, this is like just, it looks like it's spot on, no confirmation yet, but apparently, well we said that it probably the cycle, the next big hate Trump thing would be about the grabbing women by the pussy. That was going to rotate around. And here are the headlines. Trump says he groped Melania in public. Ivanka looks down on him. These are newly released recordings from the Howard Stern show. So maybe, depending on what else is taking over the news, maybe that'll fly. Well, there was another element to this, to going after this particular aspect of Trump.

2:31:31 Which was they found some information about when he ran, when he first took over these bathing beauty contests, Ms. World or whatever it was. Yeah, he made them wear small bathing tinies. Skimpier, skimpier. Which was your main complaint. That was your major complaint about the last show you saw. Yeah, they had a big old, big giant coverage of the entire butt major. Butt tarp. Butt tarp. Yeah. People gotta get a clue. They gotta be on one side or the other on these issues. But I have to rescind. I think this is going to be pushed to the background and we're going back. You already had the first clip. You had proof of it right there. We're going back to his tax returns.

2:32:13 Because the tax plan is on deck, everyone's going to be talking about that. So I think it's time to start pressuring about tax again, which will fail pretty quickly. And then we can go back to grabbing by the pussy, which is much more fun. There's a lot of elements. We've got the elements listed. I think I put a few of them in the newsletter and we just need to get the order. of what the rotation looks like. We haven't got that figured out. It's very difficult because there's so many elements we're dealing with here. Well, we're keeping track of it now. At least I'm writing stuff down. Yeah. There was a new service launched in Brussels Well, I don't know if it was just they launched this service or did a big PR campaign. Really outstanding rollout. Everybody fell for it. And I'm pretty sure some of the European parliamentary members may even be in on the gag.

2:33:06 This is just fantastic. And when they talk about this billboard, it's on a truck, you know, a truck that drives by and can park. An advertising campaign for a dating website putting young women in touch with rich older men has been banned in Brussels. A mobile billboard parked outside Belgian universities telling female students they could fund their studies by dating a sugar daddy has been condemned as encouraging prostitution by politicians. I'm not here to lecture anyone as long as it's between consenting adults. I've no judgement to make. But on the other hand, we're facing here a mechanism which is in a way a modern form of pimping. The site is based in Norway but operates in several countries. Its founder denies its promoting prostitution and argues that money is a part of every relationship.

2:33:56 out that mentorship and something more than just a parent or ship and meaning mental stimulation support to start their own career and wanting to learn ambition those were important drivers for what they found attractive in a map I love this story so much the number one place to get sugar daddies interested in this this sugar daddy dating website all those creepy guys in the EU They're in Parliament. And, and, and, extra bonus, extra bonus, this is why the owner is talking this way, we will find a definition of sugar daddy to be different than that of prostitution, which opens the floodgates for everybody. We, there is a future for us. Hey, we're your sugar daddies.

2:34:52 That's right. I just had a mentor mentor. I'm gonna mentor you real good. Yeah There's some crazy people in the world. Yeah, you know you read the stories about this a lot of girls feel very empowered by it I mean, I think it's pretty effed up, but a lot of them feel very empowered by it Empowered by what having some old guy and they're gonna string. Yeah, the leash yes. Yes. Yes. Well. That's what you read I mean, I don't know anyone personally But I think this is a very interesting definition, the difference between prostitution and giving somebody a monthly payment or stipend. Stipend. Stipend, that's what it is. Thank you. The word you're looking for. I think that's an interesting debate and maybe this will launch it. Buying somebody's books. Buying somebody's books?

2:35:46 Yeah, those books are expensive now. They've turned into... Oh, right. The book thing is turning into... For the college kids, it was about the college girls trying to help them out. It's crazy. These college books are a jip. Yeah, they're a big jip. 150 bucks a book. Yeah, and then they make it so you have to buy a new one. You can't buy the, in the olden days when I was a kid, they had these bookstores that had all the college books that were used from the previous semester and you could buy them and use them for the same class. But now they've got it so that they rotate through these books in such a way that you can't do that. Yeah, the curriculum changes. Oh, you're using last year's version of the book. You don't have the right edition.

2:36:27 But it's really, it's $150 in some cases. It's crazy. Yes. It's a complete rip off. And then you can't sell them when you're done with them. Yeah. And that used to be the best thing is you'd have a, you'd have a bookmark and you can go and sell your books. Some schmuck. It'd be like, look how nice I kept it. I mean, I put covers on it. Do you remember that? I put covers on mine. So it was beautiful. So it's $10. Well, at the University of California, Berkeley, they had the whole thing was institutionalized, so you didn't have to do any of that stuff. Because they had stores that were related to the other store next door. I was in Communist Hall. Cal and I was there. They had some institutions, I don't know if they exist anymore, they had this thing called 5-8 Note Company.

2:37:17 So you were taking a course and these courses were mostly, they had a lot of students in these courses because a lot of them were lecturers in a big hall. And you decided to take the week off, you're going to go take a trip somewhere and you come back. You go to 5-8 notes and you buy those classes. where a professional note taker had taken the notes from the lecture and then you just buy them for like, I don't know, a dollar or something for the notes for each class you missed. And then you read those, you're all caught up. It's fantastic. Speaking of students, I wish I had a clip, I don't. I remember Joey, what was his name? Joey Gardner, I think. He's the black guy who, conservative. To be honest, he's brown.

2:38:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he was he was they his rally was canceled by Pelosi initially don't remember Okay, well Joey Gibson. He's the leader of the group Patriot prayer and yeah, they you know, they have trans people, you know white black red brown yellow all kinds of stuff LGBTQ QI AP the whole deal is all in it and And they had a rally and then some counter, well, which is that they're called protesters in this case, but they're not your typical white nationalists. Then the counter protesters came along and they came to a fight inside, this is Berkeley actually, they had an empathy tent.

2:38:52 So inside the tent is a safe space, you gotta have empathy for each other. So both groups were in there, it got so bad the tent almost ripped to the ground, the cops had to come, had to break them apart. People got arrested, people got beaten up. In the Empathy Tent. That's where we're at. The Fight in the Empathy Tent. It's like the title of a book. The Fight in the Empathy Tent. A no-agenda novel. Just nuts. Just nuts. Oh, I just wanted to say because you're gonna get I'm sure you're getting mail about it You and Horowitz are talking about the origins of Twitter and you were both kind of right and both kind of wrong

2:39:28 Okay, I can be wrong and right. All right. The 140 characters came from the fact that it was indeed, although it was you could reach it online, the way it started. Well, first it was a podcasting company. That didn't work. Then they came up with a whole subscription model and they used podcast feeds for people to follow. That was their big thing, to follow on their system. And then that turned into the micro-blogging service, which indeed was first only via SMS text message. And that's why it's 140 characters. That's the maximum amount of characters in the SMS message. That was 165 or something like that in SMS. No, I'm pretty sure it's 140. I don't think it's 140. Well, that is the story because I was there when it all happened. Because it was a podcasting company, so I followed it very closely. Anyway.

2:40:18 Just want to let you know. Now they're going to 280, which I think is a huge blunder. Who gives a crap? Who gives a crap? You see all this wordage. Yeah. I have a story, a last political story, which is, you know, there's a bunch of the three of the cabinet members of the Trump operation are getting blasted for spending too much money on private aircraft. What exactly is the story? Well, the story is that they're flying themselves all over the place and using chartered flights instead of taking commercial, and ding in the public and the taxpayers paying for it and Trump's bent out of shape. But there was a little tidbit in one of these stories that I thought was interesting because I don't think it was ever explored properly. They were just condemning the guy for doing this, but this is the weird phone booth story and expensive flights piece. To another major headline involving your money tonight, your tax dollars,

2:41:14 being spent by cabinet members flying on jets. One of those cabinet members installing a $25,000 phone booth in his office. President Trump was asked about it today, asked about Health Secretary Tom Price and his expensive charter flights, which are now under investigation. ABC senior White House correspondent Cecilia Vega reporting, it's your money. President Trump today making it clear he is angry with his health secretary's pension for private planes on the public dime. I will tell you personally, I'm not happy about it. I am not happy about it. I'm gonna look at it. I am not happy about it and I'll let him know it. Secretary Tom Price under fire for his luxury jet travel costing taxpayers more than $400,000. An investigation now underway and Price says those high-priced trips are on hold. But we've heard the criticism, we've heard the concerns and we take that very seriously and have taken it to heart. But today the president made it clear Price's future is in question.

2:42:17 Three cabinet secretaries now under investigation for expensive travel. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin accused of taking costly government jets over commercial flights, including that trip to Kentucky with his wife where they viewed the eclipse. and new revelations about the EPA administrator Scott Pruitt's frequent trips home to Oklahoma paid for by taxpayers already under the microscope and now he's under fire for installing a $25,000 secure private phone booth in his office something previous administrators didn't have. A spokeswoman says Pruitt, a vocal critic of the agency before he took the top job

2:42:56 Needs the secure phone booth so his calls are not subject to hacking from the outside Yeah, we should probably put one of those in the Oval Office. All right. No I'm that's what I was thinking then the phone booth whatever it looks like wherever it is It's got nothing to do with hacking. It's a skiff. Sure. It's a skiff skiff. Okay. Well, it's about bugs Yes bugs The bugs, there's bugs in the White House. We figured that out for a long time. And so this guy knows there's bugs, or he probably already did something where it got out and nobody should have heard about it, but then he realized there's bugs in his office. Can't get rid of them. The CIA's not cooperating with anybody to get rid of these bugs. They want, it's probably their bugs. And so he put this thing, I don't blame him. I'm interested because

2:43:46 I'll have to look into the story. But I said, the first thing that came to mind when I heard the story was at first I thought, you know, I see like a doctor who kind of contraption where you get in, lights are flashing, smoke comes out, flies into the future, comes back again. Then it turns out to play a phone booth. It's not a phone booth. That is very, that's very, I'm going to find out what it is. I believe it's a SCIF or what they call a SCIF, which is secure communications, Something I actually I should look it up. Yeah, well, yeah, well, I'll figure it We'll find out what I'll delve into it because because I'll bet you it's about the bugs though. Oh, it's definitely about the bugs I'm just saying the way the story is presented to make him look like a dick they call it Oh, yeah, a phone an expensive phone. You got a phone booth in there. He goes in the phone booth and turns into Superman I mean, yeah, this is No, but that's what they're doing. I have two short clips same topic and

2:44:45 Tell me what is missing from both. This is about Anthony Weiner's conviction and sentencing. Here's a look at some of this morning's other headlines. The New York Times says former Congressman Anthony Weiner was sentenced to 21 months in prison for sexting with a 15-year-old girl. Weiner cried as a federal judge handed down the sentence yesterday. He was also fined $10,000 in order to register as a sex offender. Weiner must report to prison by November 6th. That was CBS, here's NBC. Again, omitting something. Former New York Congressman Anthony Weiner was sentenced Monday to 21 months in prison for sexting with a 15-year-old girl. What were we missing from both of those reports? I really don't know.

2:45:31 Every single time they talk about a senator or congressman, they always say Republican or Democrat. Always, always, always. Yes, right. But now it's the Democrat who's a creep. Actually, they tend to only mention the party when it's bad against the Republicans. Yes, the Republican, Republican, Republican, you know, he ran for mayor, he was a Republican congressman. I'm sorry, he was a Democrat congressman. He ran for mayor as a Democrat, but he was a Democrat congressman. They didn't mention that either, that he was a congressman. Yeah, no, they said congressman. Okay, well he was a Democrat, right? Yeah. Yeah, heaven forbid you mention that. Good point, good catch. I thought that was good. Yeah. Like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. All right. We can each do one more.

2:46:19 Well, I got a couple that you know, but I want you to go and look into this before we actually started to report on it. But the Boston Globe has a spotlight operation, which they made a whole movie out of it, which is a investigative journalist endeavor that they probably lose their ass on when they do it. And they've decided to go after the FAA. And they've got all kinds of stuff. The FH is not, you know, apparently after 9-11, they haven't done anything. Including this, I'll play this clip, but this is not my last clip, but this is a clip to give you an idea. This is the pilot's license clip. Okie dokie.

2:46:55 Well, 9-11 really should have been a wake-up call, right? Right. And as we were reporting, 9-11 was constantly in the background. How is this happening in a post-9-11 world? But there were mandates. So, in 2004, Congress mandated that pilots' licenses should have a photo. And that seems like something really basic. But here we are, 13 years later, and we still don't have photos on pilots' licenses. Why? Why not? That's a good question for the FAA. There are a lot of excuses and it just still hasn't happened. You know, back somewhere far in the back of my mind I know about this issue but I'll have to work on it.

2:47:36 Yeah, I want you to look at the report that they did. And they're claiming that half the planes, you can register a plane and half of them are owned by terrorists and former terrorists and the people on the list that no-fly list, but they've got planes. It's a very interesting thing, but I don't want to get into it because of the I think you should be the one. What is this registering a plane in the USA clip? I want to hear that. Okay, play it. a town of 2,500 people with no airport that had more than a thousand planes registered to them that we thought, oh my gosh, why are all these planes here? What is happening? And from there we just started to unpeel the onion and go through all of the layers that led us to where we are today. Yeah, and Jamie, you found that companies just can register planes, you know, anywhere and they sort of are fronts for something, right? Right.

2:48:31 Yeah, it's there. It is. It is really easy to register a plane in the United States. I think as US citizens, we think we go through a lot of hoops to register our vehicles, but all you have to do is just fill out some paperwork, sign your name, send $5. It's $5. Mail it to the FAA in Oklahoma City and they're pretty much going to trust what you say. Okay, this is bull crap, but I know what they what they found. I can just tell you this part, what they found this big discovery. is based on the following. If you're a certified pilot, and many people like myself come from other countries to get their pilot's license in the United States. Why? Because we basically give you a license to learn how to fly. You get your 40 hours, you do your test, you can land it kind of, you're good. You'll never be able to fly a plane by yourself

2:49:23 with insurance until you have a senior FAA approved pilot sign off on you. So it's going to be a while before you're like, woo, I got my license. You're not like a 16 year old in the family Volvo. No. But if you get a license in the United States, you can only fly on N registered aircraft. Now aircraft can go anywhere in the world, they can be anywhere, but those are registered with the FAA. So for instance, when I was in the UK, I could not legally fly a G registered aircraft, G for GB, or any other, just anything else, only N. So my aircraft was an N. Oh, good times back when I had it.

2:50:03 It was an NREG and the way you do it is you get a guy who maintains a number of LLCs, you know, Borat, Inks in, what is it, Des Moines, Iowa. What is the, Duluth. What is, what is where everyone has their companies registered? In Delaware. At Delaware. Thank you. Like you get a, like a Delaware corporation that's, you know, that's very easy to set up and that corporation then registers your aircraft and you basically own that company but someone else that Delaware company with someone else is managing that. So that's why you get you know one town I cheated to mention did you mention which town it was?

2:50:43 I don't think she said the report though. You have to read. I want you to read this thing before you start condemning it. Well, I'm pretty sure I know what's going on, but that doesn't mean that it isn't. It is not that hard, but it's not like, Oh my God, look, we've discovered now. I mean, it's the same with boats. Yeah. I want you to. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Just look into the, the, the picture and the pilot's license. I remember that. And I'm sure a lot of our fly boys who are listening will remind me exactly what was going on. All right, so my actual clip, which is, then I'm done, which is this clip concerns me. And I think it has to do with either the food supply or the fact that people are now eating more crazy shellfish and other kinds of food that it says comes from Thailand, comes from China. I don't know why we can't get our own shellfish around here.

2:51:41 But play this food allergies clip. How are you today? I'm doing good, thank you. Going out to eat isn't easy anymore for Marbi Siebs. So I would like the chef's salad please. Three years ago she had an allergic reaction so severe she spent two days in intensive care. I couldn't breathe, I couldn't swallow, my tongue was swelling. We're gonna do a skin probe test. Doctors gave her an allergy test. The results were shocking. At age 50, Marbi suddenly developed an allergy to one of her favorite foods.

2:52:30 Foods, shellfish. It is mind boggling to me. I don't understand how it happened. Cases like Marbie's are on the rise. A new study finding severe allergic reactions to food have skyrocketed more than 300% over the last 10 years. Half of adults with food allergies develop them after age 18. It's very concerning because there aren't any warning signs. Adults often have different symptoms than children and reactions can be more severe. Respiratory difficulty and as well as GI symptoms that kids don't get sometimes.

2:53:05 People with seasonal allergies are more prone to developing food allergies. Researchers say it could also be too many processed foods making you sensitive, so stick to a varied diet with a lot of fresh foods. Marbi now makes sure to always carry an EpiPen and is extra cautious. I have a very severe allergy to shellfish. One wrong bite... I could swell up and I don't know what would happen. I don't want to test it. How does she know if she hasn't tested it? She already got the sick one. She was the one that was hospitalized for two days. Oh, I see. Well, the immune system is what's happening here and the dark view is that we're dying as a population because we've messed with the immune system so much, and I'll say it, I think there's too many vaccines, vaccinations, I don't know, there's a lot of people who think that.

2:54:00 And a lot of diseases, certainly allergies, have come into play after mandatory vaccinations at schools. But yeah, we're putting crap in our bodies, absolute shit. It has nothing to do with food. We're putting chemicals in. What do you expect? And then you get some real food. I mean, that's it. Nothing is real. Everything's, you know... Shellfish flavored. By the way, there's a product. Shellfish flavor. Okay. What do you think? That's the end of it. I think the food supply is poisonous, but that's a, you know, I think what you said is probably valid. Yeah. And we're dying. We're dying. These kids. Well, everybody's dying. If they even, slowly, if they even want to have kids, they're dying. The Handmaid's Tale, it's coming true.

2:54:58 Be very careful. That Atwood, you never know. Oh, I just want to play one clip just to get us out of here in a smooth transition, not to be too negative. She has still not found her footing, I'm sad to say. Megyn Kelly really trying to make her show work. You know, I'm glad you got a clip. I was going to do that. I watched the first two shows. Both shows I might add, just to add a little dimension to this. Both the first two initial shows she for one thing she could live as she came out in tears and she was nervous in the first show I think she was crying before the show and she had to do a big thing. Here's who I am Here's who I am. My dad died when I was 15 second show they produced a package. Here's who I am. Here's who I am I played that again. They showed her crying in the package. I don't remember that I bet

2:55:48 But it was pathetic. And it's too much of here's who I am, here's who I am, I don't know what happened after that because the show is slow moving, it's got whole casts, it's boring. It's just, this show is no good. Well, the reason why I can predict this is a failure is she does not know how to talk to celebrities from Hollywood. She had Robert Redford, then Jane Fonda on, then these are legends. This, that's a big get. Yes. Could you please come on to Megan's show? And Redford, man, he looks so bad. Then it was sun and too much sun. And Jane Fonda, thank God she was on the show because now I could see her new facelift close up. That guy, that guy should get a congressional medal of honor. That's she, he has really preserved, preserved an American icon. It's fantastic.

2:56:46 And that's what I would say to her and would be fun and we talk about it, but no you've been an example to everyone in how to age beautifully and with strength and But you look amazing do you have you why did you say I read that you said you felt You're not proud to admit that you've had work done. Why not? We really want to talk about that think about when you look at you is how amazing you look. Well, thanks good attitude, good posture take care of myself, but let me tell you why I I love this movie that we have our souls at night. Rather than plastic surgery. There you go. But that one. Yeah, totally.

2:57:34 And by the way, you're on to plug a movie. Let him get the movie talk about the movie exactly It's a it's a known formula by the way. She's 86. No. She's not yes I Looked it up. She's 79. That's what I said. She's 86, but look 79 with a new work All right everybody that's it for our show today coming up on our 10th anniversary of Fabulous and still having fun. Thank you Jean-Claude. Thank you. Thank you chat room. No agenda stream calm Thank you guys in the back, which is really a virtual back

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