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00:00 Could you imagine a massive fight breaking out at Coachella? And coming to you from the darkest corners of the internet in downtown Austin, Tejas capital of the drone star state In the Cluedio. In The Morning I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where the politics are alt douchebag! I'm John C. Dvorak Well it took a while to work on that one Oh yeah? Oh-I thought mine was better What did you say? I'm Antifob

00:44 Oh, anti-FOB. Yes. Anti FOB is what I am. Well... And I mean it! And I mean it! I'm anti FOB We need to stop this... What does that mean? I'm against fobs. I'm against the use of fobs Like eFobs?! Yes! I'm against it Why!? Because they're very bad In event of power outage you are stuck Oh, I thought.. oh You mean you're talking about the uh yes, you're talking about the um Anti FOB The umm I don't know what you said or near field or whatever. Yeah, yeah of course induction the induction of course i'm against that

01:22 It's a very bad idea. We need keys, we need to go back to keys... There's keys! I'd be happy with the key- I can do a combo lock! I feel that way with cars. I think these cars are just asking to be stolen. Yeah well yeah they are it's another issue In fact my old Lexus The 92 uh 93 93 Lexus SC400 has a key with little button on it that opens the doors and closes them No! And there's a little switch inside to turn that function off, which I'd always kept it on for about a year until I ran into somebody...a year or two. And then I ran into somebody who had this exact same car and she told me that her car was stolen because they had these devices in their early days. You can sniff them. You push the button you unlock every car in the parking lot. Those are the good ones yeah back in the day

02:10 And so I turned this function off and never used it since. Well, you know that I clone the RFID cards for the building here... ...and I've been trying to do the garage door. The garage door is a little more challenging than the garage door opener because it uses like... ...the fob has to be known to the opener to the system. Oh, I see... But here's- Doesn't it also have an actual radio in it? Yeah, it does but here is the funny thing. I look up online and its a LiftMaster and you can buy the fobs You can buy as many fobs that you want that looks exactly like the buildings' fob All you have to do is reach out to the LiftMaster press the learn button hit your fob and your in! So have you done that? Im waiting for the fobs The minute the fobs are here, yeah of course

03:01 Of course. But this is bad security Yes, it's security theater theater. Yeah, sir as we say yes It is indeed and we've got some algo issues because going nuts now John Silicon Valley is out of control I have you know in this rental everyone has an unhinged it is everyone has a nest In in there that's in their unit and my nest ball was sudden popped up a message Yeah, I didn't know it had this capability. Well here's the message It said it's a photo I tweeted photos actually says it's an eclipse Get involved join the solar eclipse rush hour and then you have three choices You can select count me in no thanks or tell me more so we hit tell me what should we hit? Tell me more

03:53 Yeah, of course. On August 21st the solar eclipse will cause a dip in the energy supplied by over 100 million solar panels across America! Nest will adjust the temperature to help use less energy during the rush hours. It's gonna... how long is this eclipse going to last? 10 days?! This is all a precursor, you know. This is just the precursor to your nest because what they're doing is the nest is going to control my temperature. We control the vertical we control the horizontal Yes of course I opted in and want to see how it works and wanna see what's going on but this is just... The next bit is just advertising that gonna pop up You know that! And you've predicted it and you're right

04:36 They're already messaging me like, hey come on! Then how does it... so because the solar panels which supply so much energy. Oh yeah tons won't be used for 10 minutes therefore we have to all conserve energy and the nest is all Google is all in on that? That's very outrageous well I bet a lot of people go, oh how nice! Click click yes. No most people appreciate this kind of thing Oh that's great Yes That is so fabulous Well i've been learning alot I've been learning alot? No Yeah Okay Well you have been learning alot What have you learned? Well I've learnt- What have you learned? When am I learning? We have a lot of producers who send me very thoughtful notes on all sides of the Antifa fascist Nazi debate

05:31 Oh, the big debate. Did you... our producer Ed LeBoutelier? Sir Ed? Yes sir Ed He has wrote quite extensively for decades about white nationalism, identitarianism he believes that he was one of the first people to coin the phrase a white nationalist from his writings What year was this? Well let me see and he said you can put my note, you can put everything in the show notes This was Arthur E. Le Boutilier, does it have a date on it? This does not... What would it have to be? 1994 how about that 94? I think it predates that but he'll give him credit yeah he's one of our guys and you know because yes he's one of our guys and very thoughtful explanation of what the anger is with the Jews

06:26 And it's really quite mind-boggling and I find that once you just listen to people, and listen what they have to say. You can understand some things! May not agree with everything... But then we start having anger with the Jews all of a sudden? Well in case you missed it Over the weekend this whole Nazi Antifa kerfuffle switched from blacks and slavery to Jews You didn't catch this. Well, I mean I caught it locally because there was some Jewish I do have a clip out as matter of fact Okay of a Jewish Synagogue that had its window broken and they made a huge

07:12 Deal out of it around here including some woman who brought in a meme which I did might as well play this clip is the ktvu Clip, I think it's I don't have my not looking at this thing right now But let me take a look yeah Spanish connection that no no no spent the Spanish connections a series eclipse Oh, that's the only KTVU. Oh oh No, that's another one see synagogue window broken try that okay? Video in detail process some more evidence and we are treating this as a hit problem That validation is something this teenager needs to hear. A victim herself, she says of anti-Semitism at Alameda High School targeted with slurs and texts saying Hitler should have finished off the job and finished off your family Jews belong in the ovens Jews are all kikes I believe that antisemitism has taken a lot more lightly I believe it's because lots of people consider Jews to be white and assume us to have white privilege Returned to where you are

08:15 Whether the vandalism was inspired by events in Charlottesville. No one can say Everything's Charlottesville, so this white thing came up again Yes So this is that this is a meme that is That I think I would credit horror which for spotting first right and I don't know what there is to it But there's something to it well I can read you what our producer sent us if you're interested regarding this specifically Okay, go hold on. I'll be the long note. I got a scroll down here. You don't have it printed out Give me a break hold on a second cuz he put II got every okay anti Jewishness in white power here we go

08:58 There is a weird, almost religious anti-Semitism that exists historically in Europe, Canada and the US. It pervades the quote old white power movement I'm not personally anti Jewish some don't believe me but whatever when i associated with the Klansmen and Nazis Neo and Paleo I couldn't believe the hatred for fantastical viewpoint these people had against Jews. I still don't you guys giggle at the shape-shifting Jew song but some of the old white movement has views that really coincide with the kind of that kind of belief about Jews Wow That's where we got it from Yes, I've joked with them that they almost treat Jews like they're the master race with magical tricks I think it stems from the Spartacus uprising

09:39 I've been at the Spartacus uprising not familiar with that, but there's a wiki page Germans felt very cheated by you. I am already kissing Yes, and if you know about it yeah Yeah Now you say that I do But I know what precedes that to Eastern Europeans? I've met that I met with have even more deep-seated dislike so the idea is that the Jews are are taking over Europe, which the white nationalists and identitarians perceive to be their homeland. And they feel it's a hijack This is... this is the way I deconstruct what I'm being told. Um... And you know this is... What're ya gonna do? The one thing- The takeaway that I got from all of this Is that

10:28 We've been we've been talking about we almost had it right. We said there's a war on men We've been saying this for six seven eight years maybe maybe the whole show Can you recall how long we've been tracking? It's been awhile as all I know, you know Men look stupid on TV that dumb and commercial for a while going off for a while but we know that if you're a male or especially if you're an older white male, if you're straight and most importantly if you are white. You are the problem! You are the patriarchy Everything is your fault indirectly So... White men are being marginalized And it's been going on for a long time When people don't have

11:16 smarts maybe? You know, this frustration. This frustration... In fact I got a great example of this you remember that douchebag from the Vice documentary? Which one of many douchebags or alt-douchebags? I'll play it for ya. The Christopher Cantwell guy. So when did you get into as you said the racial stuff? When Trayvon Martin case happened and Michael Brown and Tamir Rice all these different things happen every single case it's some little black asshole behaving like a savage and he gets himself in trouble shockingly enough. Whatever problems I might have with my fellow white people, they generally are not inclined to such behavior and you know you gotta kinda take that into consideration when your thinking about how to organize your society. In Oklahoma City? Okay so exactly! You have to go back to Oklahoma- Oh yeah remember this guy who went on to say that he's much more racist than Donald Trump because he would never give his daughter to a Jew

12:13 Yes, that guy. So this guy shows up on a YouTube video he released over the weekend Apparently he there may be a warrant out for his arrest and I knew it then this is the case with many many bullies And people like this. He actually is just very frustrated sad you know very frustrated The young man who's crying about you know well, just listen to this I contacted the local police I called the Charlottesville Police Department and I asked them I said I have been told that there's a ward out for my arrest You can already hear his emotion right here. They said that they wouldn't confirm it, but that I could find this out if I... excuse me ...that I could find this out if I wanted to go to a local magistrate or something like that But with everything that's happening, I don't think it's wise for you- This isn't new! What? This clip, this clip, I've heard this clip couple weeks ago How can it be? Charlottesville wasn't a couple of weeks ago I'm telling ya' I heard this before Does he mention Charlottesville in this clip Yes, he just mentioned it

13:16 No, he didn't. Okay well listen over tell me where it says it okay I contacted the local police I called the Charlottesville Police Charlottesville Police Department does that count? Well I guess it has to department and I asked them I said I've been told that there's a warrant out for my arrest um and they uh they said that they wouldn't confirm it but that I could find this out if I excuse That I could find this out. The first thing, I have to stop this...I don't really want to hear it Why not? Because it's an- I don't believe this is the truth For one thing, I don't like these guys going on YouTube and crying It makes me itch And I think its fake

13:58 I just don't buy any of these, really getting tired of Stefan mulling you and all the rest of them that come on one-on-one with their own camera in a bucket. And they're yacking away about something and this guy... Why is he doing this? Why would anybody do this?" Well, do you want to listen to it then come up with your thesis or just wanna...? I just wanna gripe play it." to go to a local magistrate or something like that. But with everything that's happening, I don't think it's wise for me to be going anywhere. There is this state of emergency and the National Guard is here so I don't think its' a good idea for me to go there frankly And I don't know what to do...I've emailed Stephen Tenney of the Keene Police Department Sorry! I have emailed Stephen Tenney at the Keene Police Department He's one of the cops who came there

14:55 He's one of the cops who saved my ass when I had to pull my gun in Keene. And I emailed him and said, I don't know what to do, I need guidance... I want to be peaceful, I want to be law-abiding. That was the whole entire point of this and I'm watching CNN talk about this as violent white nationalist protest We have done everything in our power to keep this peaceful I know we talk a lot of shit on the internet, right? But like literally Jason Kessler applied for a permit like months ago for this. Okay when they yanked our permit we went to the ACLU and we went to court and we won! We've been coordinating with law enforcement the entire time every step of the way we've tried to do the right thing

15:38 and they just won't stop, you know? We have done everything in our power. We have used every peaceful and lawful means by which to redress our grievances... And our enemies just will not stop! We've been fucking assaulted They are threatening us all over the place we are trying to make this peaceful we're trying to be law-abiding and our enemies will not stop what options do we have left If somebody would like to inform me of that, then I will be grateful to you. I really will." Now the reason why I played this John was only to point out That just like- This is supposedly the most toughest guy on the block that was highlighted as... He's trying to get tougher As he well if you see the video What he said on Vice! He says he wants to get tougher. I know but this is not vice. I'm playing something different. I know that

16:33 I'm just saying on vice you made a point. It was gonna be just backing up your guy. I gotcha. Okay What I'm seeing here is LARPing on all sides this guy's a larper he's a larper with a gun Which I doubt he would actually use these this is all larpers These are very very sad children who are confused by a lot of different things and I can I have some compassion for the douche I have no compassion for him, and I think that for one thing besides kind of being a LARPer live-action role player he's also exhibiting the by this this sad crying bit. He's exhibiting something that people turned up years ago with People who would show up on Maury Povich and what's the other real horrible one? Oh

17:30 That guy's show. They would go up there and then when they were interviewed after all their experiences and stuff, they actually hoped they would get a job in television as actors or actresses. That could be that could be And I think this guy is showing his acting chops Okay well Jerry Springer is what you're thinking of Springer yeah, the worst it could be it could be John could absolutely be I don't understand why he would do this He's showing his range so here. I am as the douchebag is gonna get worse and here I am in my sensitive role Is that what you're thinking? Absolutely giving this guy a lot of credit You know a lot of credit in fact, okay. I'll give him credit for this reason the fact that he could be featured on device Documentary and then featured in a couple to CBS reports because he was shown wandering around mm-hmm I mean this guy's managed to get himself on the air And then now he's doing this bit which is a little different than his other tough guy bit Mm-hmm. I think it's absolutely an actor trying to get apart What part?

18:31 What's the auditioning for? Nobody cares. You know most people who want to get a job in Hollywood or want to be in the movies Yeah, they don't give a crap what job it is I just want a job hmm I can act I can show you my range all right well Okay, then this is not an example that that works It might work for everybody but doesn't work for me okay, and that's fine but Here's an example I was given, which is you know. I'm sure someone could call it a false equivalency But yeah this meme has been going around the inner webs If you look up in the Wikipedia There's black pride gay pride and white pride they all have very different Very different descriptions Black Pride is no pride for being black gay pride as pride for being white white pride Nazi yes and

19:23 Having listened to the...think about it. That's it in a nutshell for sure. It's that kind of what it is and you're not... So you should have no white pride unless you might be able to not see him, then thats good but otherwise no just sit down and shut up. White privilege And last night we had my millennials over And I didn't get into deep stuff with him, it was supposed to be a fun dinner. But at certain point... Like you said, you need to explain intersectionality to me So if I got an explanation on intersectionality and after this explanation I said so basically It means that you have two disadvantages You have a color disadvantage and gender disadvantage He said yeah exactly, so lesbians

20:14 It would be a lesbian intersectionality, including black lesbians in the group. And it sounds weird but I'm pretty sure that this is what they explained to me and then i said well what if you have a white feminist? Yeah no they're not intersectional because they've been running everything for all these centuries and that was it! And these are white kids...and THAT was IT White has been running the show so instead of hey, let's share the show or whatever it is No you're out and it's just done. And I don't understand it. I don't I Don't I don't understand where is the logic? What's there to understand? It's crazy Where's the logic that everybody can have their own identity in culture unless your white and male

21:06 What do you expect you're gonna get? You get these sad, sad boys who are sad. The guy- I'm not going to take this- I'm just taking the stance he's not acting even if he is that's sad too! The guy is a podcast that's about all he is. A podcast... I know and that's even worse what's worse white nationalists or podcasters I'm not sure where we are on the scale so You know, the fact that no one is talking to these people and no one is actually putting their grievances out there. Oh man did you... we've gotta get back to the Jew thing because I gotta read this Facebook thing has been going around a second where's it have you haven't seen this obviously here This is being copy pasted. Who wrote this originally? Some guy in Berkeley

22:00 No, it doesn't matter. Copy paste and help spread this real news as opposed to what comes out of the mouth of the fake news president Please read written by Lisa Moore Charlottesville in response Wait is this the one hold on a second shoot? This is not the one I wanted This is a different one my god hold on John. I'm sorry I'd almost want to stop the show just to find it but now the face bag has booted me away from the thing play a clip for me so I can get this Alright, well if I play a clip unfortunately all my clips are kind of interconnected but i can play something simple. Let's just play this there is one off Mueller loses lawyer I don't know what it means I've been looking into it

22:45 Back here at home tonight into the sudden shakeup in the Russia investigation special counsel Robert Mueller Losing one of his top investigators Peter stroke after only a few weeks on the job There's no word why tonight Mueller working with nearly two dozen lawyers administrators and a federal grand jury now investigating Russia's meddling in the US presidential election and any possible collusion Boom, okay. So what is that because yeah explain that? I can't explain it. I think this whole thing's falling apart on him and the guy just quit, says you know there's nothing here, I'm out of here. I also understood that there are all kinds of rules and regulations that are being thrown up into Mueller's team about some of his lawyers including himself who have relationships and thus possibly collusion with Clinton at all. Yes they're all related to the Clinton Foundation Right well we've heard this but maybe that's why the guy resigned?

23:41 Okay, here's another clip while you're still looking. This is a good one so Milo was on C-SPAN and part of the reason was to moan and groan about the fact that nobody ever interviews him and actually watch him on c-span discussing his woes for about an hour You see why nobody interviews them You know, he actually sounds good in audio but when you watch him he's mugging. He's throwing his head around and flipping his wrist I mean it just too much And it is really hard to take him But he has these crazy ideas This one here is my favorite and I clipped this specifically because I know that you might know about this Okay And this is Milo Is Madonna

24:28 Okay, to be honest with you and I don't think this is too hubristic. I think this is true if you imagine Madonna in the 90's her videos being banned by MTV And it created this sense that it was irresistible You just everybody wanted to see the video right and because the video was also great and the music was also great But MTV was banning him for reasons that everybody under 40 thought was stupid That's really what turned her into a megastar well who's the closest to that today? It sounds familiar What's that? That sounds like it's right. I think it is, I think it's true! I think I'm a Madonna in the 90s you know this is... C-SPAN is for particular audience but its not a major mainstream media broadcast. I haven't been interviewed once, not once. Barnes & Noble we had to

25:19 fight them to get my books in stock, you know? And they had these grayed out buttons where the staff couldn't even order it. Some real shady stuff was going on over there right? So I'm gonna choose to drop it. The book hasn't been reviewed! But actually you can turn that into great media people do respond to that. Of course I did and of course they know by the way that I have a very interesting phone call I recorded that I made to their vice president of public affairs which I will drop if they keep misbehaving but and yes that is a threat. Somebody else in the same field grills him or discusses with him. He did, in this case it was the publisher of Regnery The big conservative publishing house who I guess didn't pick up his book when they had the chance And he self-published it and she couldn't get a word in edgewise He just just go he's just plows over but I can see why he doesn't get on on any these Yeah, I wouldn't put them on

26:37 Mean the best he's done so far has been with Alex Jones, and it was more of a him interviewing Jones So it was a little less a him and more of Jones. That's Milo Yeah well I wish I could I wish you could read this thing to you But somehow I've not been able to find this at all and the chat rooms not help This is very strange what can I can? I say something please about this yeah? Oh just I guess maybe You also can't save stuff from Facebook in a normal way. This is part of the problem, and you can just like... That's great! I'm just saying printouts Yeah that's what i should do, I think you're right but yes you were going to say? Print outs! So I was gonna say Oh thats what your gonna say Well this is really annoying it was written by some guy in Berkeley yeah I think maybe uh might have been a professor and um I just don't have it anywhere

27:36 Oh well, but you'll get it. You'll find it and put on the next show but this time print it out I always print my stuff out and then... Well it was kind of seminal to the point that I was making But yeah alright Yeah like guess the point is not made I guess the point is lost Well what has happened though It's a good try though Yes thanks Well why don't you summarize Summarize with this text I'm going to summarize That's exactly what I was going to do I am summarizing it The summary is It is an outrage What Donald Trump has done Because he has sympathized, key words in this thing that's why I want to find it. Sympathize with the Nazis and therefore all Jews must stand against him. There is a whole bunch of Yiddish words thrown in and then Kushner you have one day to get out and leave

28:21 And what's happening is you're seeing, especially Jewish business leaders. Everybody has to step away from the president because once you get the Jews out saying this guy is no good it's over I mean there isn't and you can even have a discussion What I just said even can be deemed as severely anti-semitic I, did I tell you that when I was like 20? Did I tell you that when someone asked me on Dutch radio. It's like do you think the Jews control Hollywood and stupid me. You said yes? No! I don't know I see a lot of Jewish names on the credits. Boom! I had to apologize The Dutch Anti-Defamation League was shaming me and holy crap

29:06 Well, you are right but it should have said that doesn't mean the Jews. I mean it's not as though you got 10 guys running ten studios all have Jewish names and might be part of a synagogue or two That doesn't mean they're in collusion in such way that they're running Hollywood They are competing with each other as matter-of-fact and probably in very nasty way I have the letter believe it or no Thank you, Greg Davies. Here we go! I'm glad i can read this... This is an open letter to our fellow Jews- please copy paste everywhere on the face bag To our fellow Jews in the Uni- and this is everywhere except now I can't find it, I don't know how that works To our fellow Jews in the United States, Israel and around the world Well its probably banned, I betcha that thing was put aside Oh, I dont think so. It must have just happened then

29:56 We know that up to now some of you have made an effort to reserve judgment on the question whether or not President Donald Trump is anti-Semite and give him the benefit of a doubt. Some of you voted for him last November, some of you found employment in his service or have involved yourself with him in private business deals or diplomatic ties You have counted carefully as each appointment to his administration of a white supremacist, anti-Semite neo-Nazi or crypto fascists appeared to be counterb... What is a crypto fascist? It's a fascist. Who uses Bitcoin? No, a crypto fascist is someone that doesn't say they're a fascist but if you deconstruct them they are fascists Oh okay

30:36 Alright then. You've given your support to the President's long and appalling record of racist statements, at worst assenting to them—at best dismissing them as the empty blandishments of a huckster at work—and have chosen to see the warm reception that his rhetoric found among hood wearers, weekend stormtroopers and militias of hate as proof of the gullibility of a bunch of patsies however distasteful.

31:14 You have viewed him as a potential friend to Israel or a reliable enemy of Israel's enemies. You've tried to ally, or dismiss your fears with the knowledge that most of the president's hateful words and actions along with those of his appointees have targeted other people immigrants black people Muslims taking hollow consolation in how open and shameless his hate has been As if that openness and shamelessness guaranteed the absence in his heart And in his administration of any hidden hatred for us The president has no filter, no self-control you have told yourself. If he were an anti-Semite a Nazi sympathizer A friend of Jew hating Klan we would know by now But Now He would surely have told us No? Well yesterday in a long and ragged off the cuff address To the press corps President Trump Told us for sure During a moment that white supremacist Godfather Steve Bannon Wow White supremacists godfather Steve Bannon Has apparently described as Defining for his administration

32:12 The president expressed admiration and sympathy for a group of white supremacist demonstrators who marched through the streets of Charlottesville, flaunting swastikas and openly chanting along with vile racist slogans, Jews will not replace us. Among those demonstrators according to Trump were quote, A lot of innocent and very fine people." So now you know First he went after immigrants, the poor, Muslims, trans people and people of color. And you did nothing! You contributed to his campaign, you voted for him, you accepted positions on his staff and his councils... Nobody reading that voted for him! ...You entered into negotiations, cut deals made contracts with him in his government Now he's coming after you The question is what are you going to do about it?

32:55 If you don't feel or can't show any concern, pain or understanding for the persecution and demonization of others at least show a little self-interest. At least show a little SECHEL! And Sechel is Yiddish, I believe it's... Like backbone. Let's accept the truth and make the world a better place when you leave this world at the very least show a little self-respect to Steve Mnuchin Gary Cohn and other fellow Jews currently serving under this odious regime we call upon you to resign enter the president's lawyer Michael D Cohen fire your client Do Sheldon Adelson and other fellow Jews still engaged in making the repugnant calculation that a hater of Arabs must be a lover of Jews, or that money trumps hate, or that $1 million worth of access can protect you from one boot heel at the door? Wise up. The government of Israel and our fellow Jews living there? Wise up!

33:48 To Jared Kushner, you have one minute to do whatever it takes to keep the history of your people from looking back on you as amongst its greatest traitors. The greatest fools! That minute is nearly past. To Ivanka Trump allow us to teach you an ancient and venerable phrase long employed by Jewish parents and children to one another at such moments a family crisis I'll sit Shiva for you try it out in your father see how it goes Among all the bleak and violent troops that found confirmation or came slouching into view amid the torchlight of Charlottesville is this. Any Jew, anywhere who does not act to oppose President Donald Trump and his administration acts in favor of anti-Semitism! Any Jew who does not condemn the president directly and by name for his racism white supremacism intolerance and Jew hatred condones all those things To our fellow Jews in North America and Israel around the world

34:41 What side are you on? Well, that was a bigoted racist screed. And it's captured the attention from Black Lives Matter basically. That may be a plus. It's detracting it well being we got problems with the Jews and the blacks they don't they got problems too. Problems with that Jew. Sorry I said there may be problems with that guy, that Jew. Of course. Bullshit! People like this are ridiculous. I mean they're divisive? That's a very divisive letter. That guy should be ashamed of himself for putting that out there. And let's take a look at Bannon. Bannon for example... Now we know there was a book called Devil's Bargain by Joshua Green

35:32 Supposedly one of the reasons and which I'll get into later. Well, why Bannon was kicked out even though? I don't believe that's the case but They let's see. I have a thing here Joshua Green on Bannon when I've won too many clips big miss it Okay This is there's a Ben run down in a Ben and Bannon Now I'm getting like, now this whole show is gonna be like this. Okay? This Steve Bannon in a nutshell... Now this is Josh Green who wrote the book Devil's Bargain which subtitled Steve Bannon Donald Trump and The Storming of The Presidency who made the assertion he made a lot of assertions but he talks about a little bit about some of it on Charlie Rose.

36:21 kind of summary of Bannon I thought was really interesting. More than Andrew Breitbart has, I can shape the world in a direction that will advance my political goals. And his political goal then was? His political goal is always been the same it's to push for a kind of hard right populist nationalism that is very much distinct from ordinary orthodox movement conservatism. Bannon's critique of that kind of conservatism essentially is that it's globalist, his great pejorative phrase, that is serves the interest of a kind of global financial class that is more interested in

37:06 making money and sort of erasing national borders, tearing down cultural identities than it is in serving the kind of ordinary working-class blue collar people that Bannon thinks is the backbone of the country and ought to be at the center of our politics. And Bannon's prescription for how to do that essentially is to tear down the global free trade system, to close America's borders, to deport people who are here illegally and to curb legal immigration as a way of privileging American citizens in reasserting kind of cultural identity. Is this different from what Pat Buchanan argued way back when in the 80s? Yeah I talked about it about this

37:53 Six months a year ago. I said isn't he really your intellectual forbear? He said well yes, and no Yes in the sense that he had kind of caught into the power of this kind of populism And it can like Steve Bannon is a deeply traditional Catholic Catholic, but he said the big difference is that Buchanan isn't enough of a Zionist. That's where he goes wrong I am a big Zionist and therefore we really don't see eye to eye on those kinds of things How does that fit in with this bullcrap? He says he's a Zionist major league Zionists. That's why they Went they cozied up to Netanyahu to an extreme. So Zionist is Is all about Israel yeah Zionism

38:41 Yeah, that's what. So how is this guy? This guy from Berkeley or where I don't know. It doesn't make any sense now and then let me throw something else in which I've never been able to develop for the show but I've been working on it and then I dropped the ball. I never did it like one of those many things I do that with and one of them is that BuzzFeed article that ran around December last year was a guy who discovered something brought it up as some scandal he mentions in the article and he's one of the staffers there that trumps a Jew.

39:18 And if you start looking into the family, it's a good possibility that the Drumpf family is Jewish. You know what he should do? He should do a 23andMe swab and then come out and say look at me! Look at me I'm Ashkenazi Jew because that's always in there There's always Ashkenazi Jew in there Everybody's Ashkenazi Jew He should do that It goes right along with his tweeting yesterday So the whole thing is, these guys on Facebook are pathetic. I think more pathetic than that guy crying on his... Which again you know why would you put a camera on yourself when you're just falling apart and you're trying to be a tough guy? Well these aren't... Tough guys don't cry! These are different times from when we were growing up John Everyone puts everything on face bag these days It doesn't matter what it is if you can put your stupid breakfast on it

40:09 So I'm...I don't know. But, I'm telling you right now we're in very dangerous waters now This to me is much worse than- We've had black and white issues in America from day one Then I think we'll figure that out but when the Jew card is being played this heavy handed And Mnuchin! Oh my god! Mnuchin here's what he wrote this morning Uh..and this one I do have Uh, he says... Here we go. Where's his letter? Yeah right! You know todays preparation is brought to you by something that isn't working. Shit Anyway I'll get that too. Mnuchin says Hey I stand by the president and this is bull crap And then-you should just-you don't have facebag but just take a look at it or even on Twitter Just search for Mnuchin The hate is unbelievable

41:10 Unbelievable. He says, I find it hard to... You have that dimension and you don't run into it. ...I find it hard to believe I should have to defend myself on this or the president. I feel compelled to let you know the president in no way shape or form believes that neo-Nazis and other hate groups who endorse violence are equivalent to groups who protest in peaceful and lawful ways." And then he goes on to say, now he's familiar with the culture wars being fought in our country, and it's more complicated than we had been led to believe by the mass media And Trump deserves the opportunity to propose his agenda without distraction. Of course, it's partially Mnuchin's agenda because he is the secretary but I've seen this...I've seen some of this go down John. This is where we're in a real danger zone because- I don't think so. Oh man! I suppose if you are hanging out on face bag you'd probably think that way but No, It has nothing to do with that. Well, seems too You are really an interesting mood today

42:09 Because I've been catching memes and this kind of propaganda stuff that is, i think a little more sinister than this rant about Jews all should quit the Trump administration like any of them will. Hey John, I'm just bringing it to your attention anything. Yeah, but you say that... I'm sorry your shit's better well hurry up then! No no it's not better you say that and then you get so sullen you go oh my god this is worse than anything i've ever seen we're all in big trouble that that's not just bringing it to my attention that's having an opinion about where it's leading okay? That's more than bringing it to my attention that's for sure Okay You did this two shows ago too by the way Okay Last show he didn't Are you keeping track

42:53 Yes. Yeah, you got a little check mark on every time I fuck up according to you? Carvings. Carvings very good. I have a knife and I carve it right into the wall here alright that's so you hear the wall well You know what John? Uh...I'm just a little more in touch with reality and i'm sorry if sometimes it affects me Then I have an opinion. Everything you've told me so far today on this show as we begin it has been reflections of face bag? No, it's not reflections! You don't have face bag. I read it and I'm telling you this is what is being written This was posted on facebag not written on facebag And you yourself said that its a horrible screed

43:42 Yeah, that's what I said. Right! But by that i also mean I don't see it having a massive impact on the culture and is going to trigger race war. Let me tell you something John let me tell you something You've never been targeted by quote The Jews for something you said. You fucking wait until it happens to you Well so now what is that supposed to mean? Because that's what happened to me and and I'm saying this is very bad particularly with the way today's media is orchestrated or operates I'm telling you that this is not going to make things very good, and I can predict maybe what's gonna happen but doesn't matter. Okay? No it's okay. I'm affected by face bag fine Let's see what you have to say for today well You got nothing do a face bag That's for sure sure you don't okay will let you if you're gonna let me change topics absolutely Why talk about anything that doesn't that doesn't seem like it's gonna be bad. Let's move on to something fun None of this is fun

44:46 I have to make a transition so it makes some sense. How about the ACLU member quits plus lecture and mayor of town? Okay But as the deadly events in Charlottesville showed us, there's sometimes a thin line between permitting free speech and inciting violence. Today, Charlottesville's mayor said for the first time this Robert E Lee statue should be removed and he wants to ban people from carrying weapons at future rallies I think we need to strike a new balance in this country between the First Amendment and public safety. Even the American Civil Liberties Union is grappling with its own role, long known for siding with progressive causes the group has also defended far-right groups in court including the white nationalist protesters in Charlottesville but a Virginia board member just resigned tweeting I won't be a fig leaf for Nazis we believe that freedom of speech attaches to everyone from the US so peacefully lawfully assemble into protest even two groups we hate

45:43 Well, this is the lack of the Constitution in this conversation has been very apparent from day one. This story, which we ran on network news made it seem as though the ACLU is knuckling under to something or other. In fact the ACLU when I was a kid and throughout my entire life were always condemned for every so often there...I remember when the Ku Klux Klan wanted to march through Skokie which is a Jewish part of the Chicago area And they had a permit to do it and then they said no, you can't. Do it the ACLU came to their defense and this Ku Klux Klan marched through Skokie because there was no counter protest like there are today so they just marched through in and left that was the end of it which is how it used to go You just laugh at them That's what we used to do you laugh at him and let him walk around Yeah well that was always more effective but wasn't getting the coverage your looking for

46:43 But the ACLU has been doing this forever and there's one guy who quit is just a weenie because of, and it was a discussion about the ACLU and how they do older than people that really run. The ACLU are very established with First Amendment rights and as the younger young lawyers that come in and kind of work you know part-time or whatever they do, they all have an agenda. It's always a left wing agenda and it is no surprise that one of them would quit over this which is ludicrous because the ACLU does what it does. It's American Civil Liberties Union for civil liberties And they take both sides of the argument all time Most of the time...and there goes to Zephyr by the way late very late most of the time they take the size of progressives that you know are troublemakers

47:33 People try to keep them from marching or doing whatever they do. And so it looks like a liberal organization, but it's not. The only thing I know about ACLU... By the way they're taking on Milo! The ACLU-I want to hear that in a minute These are the people that called me and I think we played some of it on the show when right before the show and I recorded it and there was anything but you know a balanced organization It was anti Trump all the way You were talking to one of the low level guys. Oh sure, oh yeah no it's just a guy in a call center but that is their missive I got...I'm gonna you know they're on the street now There's nothing if you had that clip you can play it again But nobody yes That's what the debate is going on within the ACLU because all these young little hot shots have come in and They're the guys at the call centers there Yeah sure they hate Trump I got it Yes I do Hold up what does this?

48:28 Oh, this is good. Okay let's do this. This happens all the time. Hello? I don't care. Who's calling? Mr. Curry? Who's calling? My name. Ms. Watashi Davis calling from Donor Services Group We're calling on behalf of the ACLU American Civil Liberties Union... Oh, I see what happened Notice donor services group it's not the ACLU did you hear that Yeah, this is some other group those guys named Ratashi's I'm very disappointed with what I'm saying. I didn't expect a CLU to be such douchebags

49:12 I didn't expect you to do what you did with the immigrants. Oh, that was when they organized the protests at the airports? That's insulation stuff. You organize protests! No we're not a group of folks...uhh..liberty Yeah but-I don't like the ACLU organizing protests at airports. That's not cool. Well they're trying to take over. And just went downhill from there

49:51 But yeah, okay so they just contracting that's why but that's you know of course They're just a bunch of lawyers and they're doing what they're supposed to do. I think Well, they've been doing this for a long time now. Apparently there they've contacted Milo I don't have that I had a clip but didn't make it clips sorry they contacted Milo about some Something about his book or the fact that they wouldn't put it Oh well We already had a virtual book burning with Milo didn't we? His book just kind of got cancelled Yes, by Simon & Schuster and then he self-published it when it's now. It's a number three bestseller or something like that on the New York Times list. Is that hot? Oh, that's fantastic! I didn't realize that. Yes, it's making money hand over fist. No... Yes! Damn well particularly if you self published I guess You make a lot of extra money for yourself published. You only have to sell half as many books and

50:46 He, of course he claims he made a million dollars in the first month which I doubt. But whatever the case, he has been blackballed and so they ACLU apparently contacted him for some legal action activity and he's very on this little interview that went on forever, he says that he doesn't like the ACLU but in this case he likes them. Which of course is difficult. Makes sense. Well we also have John I'll just interject this... We have the Southern Poverty Law Center who've also they've interjected themselves into this and it was almost my mouth was agape when Chris Matthew started to question

51:29 Alicia Brooks from the Southern Poverty Law Center about Antifa. anti-fascist and what they see in the Trump administration and what they see happening in this country, they see...they see the neo fascism that we see. And they've taken a principle stand to stand against white supremacists and white nationalists wherever they may show up I'd like to point out that Antifa on...on the Charlottesville protected peaceful protesters. I don't know what President Trump was talking about. Well who were waving their clubs on that side?

52:14 I mean, I looked at the pictures of people jumping in. They were protecting themselves! Well there was one group that was jumping in and punching the... I couldn't believe it. Matthew is going to wind up on RT if he continues this kind of talk This is not acceptable. This is not the narrative, Chris. ...punching the Nazi types. I've seen a lot of pictures like you have and I've seen people reaching and slugging them Who are those people? They may have been part of Antifa. I thought they were opposed to globalization as well? I couldn't say, i'm not an expert on Antifas. Let me also say because it has to be said that Antifa would not be there if it weren't for the white supremacists calling them out. So Antifa doesn't engage in occupy type behavior against global meetings for example business leaders they don't go after institutions that are not fascist

53:07 They were in Charlottesville to stand against another example. We're talking about Chris People are I understand but when you do that you feed into the false narrative I'm trying to get the truth by predict a very short career for mr Matthews with this Did you hear that they comment where she said? That the they were calling for the race war No, I didn't hear that. Shoot! Was it right in that last bit there where they were talking? It was probably...I was gonna stop it but then they went on a lot longer so its about halfway through Okay let's listen again, thats good On the Charlottesville protected peaceful protesters I don't know what President Trump was talking about Well who are waving to clubs on that side

53:59 I mean, I looked at pictures where people were jumping in. They were protecting themselves Well there was one group that was jumping in and punching the Nazi types. I've seen a lot of pictures like you have and I've seen people reaching and slugging them Who are those people? Yes but they may have been part of Antifa. It's growing in this country. I thought they're opposed to globalization as well I couldn't say. I'm not an expert on Antifa's Let me also say because it has to be said that they would not be there if it weren't for the white supremacist Calling them so in chief and every day Stephen calling for the race war is that what she said yeah, huh?

54:38 The race war. So that's in her head. They were calling, so apparently that meetup... That meetup! Hi! Was calling for the race war and when you say it not a race war but THE race war Then its in your mind then your already all over that Good catch thats very disturbing Southern Poverty Law Center If they didn't have so much money I'd laugh at them But holy crap are they funded hundreds of millions of dollars That's really quite incredible. I think, I didn't clip it but you probably saw it, Tucker had some guy on who was organizing some alt-right speech thing and he was brown! And yet Nancy Pelosi said oh we got to cancel this rally because its white supremacist Well there is a couple of things going on that I picked up on A meme in particular the meme that

55:42 Trump doesn't like to be upstaged. This is fairly new, but it's showing up everywhere and they're doing a pretty good job of promoting it But and the other meme that I picked up on is that That was started. I thought it was just a joke and then the right-wing talkers were go all over this is where wolf blitzer says that The event in I have the clip Oh please play it yeah almost second It was under Yes, where's Brolf? Let me just look up Brolf. And by the way I will say that there was two people on CNN who made this comment. Jim Scudo was the guy who says more of it. Brolf got the brunt of the blame but it was really Scudo or whatever his name is who said it. It's not just Spanish authorities but US authorities have been aware of... The final point I would make Wolf is just in light of the uproar over the last couple days

56:40 Five days apart, you have white supremacists in Charlottesville use a vehicle to kill. And here you have attackers at least following the modus operandi of terrorists using vehicles apparently to kill as well and those shared tactics that should be alarming Yeah, and there will be questions about copycats. There will be questions if what happened in Barcelona was at all a copycat version of what happened in Charlottesville, Virginia even though they may be different characters, different political ambitions They use the same killing device A vehicle going at high speed into a group, a large group of pedestrians

57:24 And as the local police are saying at least... Sorry, yeah. Okay I'm glad you got that clip because it's just because I couldn't get-I didn't get that clip in time. I didn't discover the meme in time to to get that clip. Yeah, it's Trumps fault! It's all Trumps fault that the idea. No that is not what the meme is. Okay. Its some sort of transference and its CIA based because Fran Townsend has something to say about it. Ah, well Fran's in on this. But let go back and watch the genesis of this first crazy discussion you heard uh...and copied luckily started with right wing talkers all went crazy

58:00 And really, and I'm saying yeah well they're all over this. Oh this is terrible! This guy's an idiot!" And you're right there was targeting Blitzer more than anybody. Poor Kroll. So they were going after him. Then I think about it, oh this is crazy, this is dumb that's what my first initial thing was then I realized some sort of a message from the intelligence community that they're trying to get out. And I say that because Fran Townsend, who we know and she was actually working for Flynn under the Trump administration She's like a spooky type woman and she was on Charlie Rose And before I play this clip, I want to mention something about her style

58:43 Can you imagine us doing the show where every time I say anything it's, Adam... I got this clip. And I'll tell you what Adam, and do you know what else Adam? Well I know that you dislike it very much when I say John Yes! I know you do Because who else are you talking to? Is there somebody else in the room But she does it with Charlie like, well Charlie the way I see it. The thing is Charlie and I've gotten this Charlie and its just hypnotic and I find it to be extremely annoying. She does it to an extreme but you don't hear so much because this is a short clip but this is the clip that triggered me

59:24 to start listening for something's up. This is the Spanish connection, they're in Townsend not the two. Somebody picked up the weapon to stop them. Why has the United States been successful? How have they been successful in avoiding significant attacks like this in our cities and in our comfort halls? It's interesting, Charlie. Look I there's no doubt in my mind that Charlottesville is domestic terrorism. I think if you're prepared to label Barcelona where a non-government actor targets the civilian population with violence for political aim... If you're willing to label Barcelona as terrorism then we ought to be willing to confront the fact that when a white supremacist or neo-nazi does the exact same thing that's terrorism too Okay well i know what's going on then That's easy

1:00:11 You can impeach the president if he's colluding with terrorists Foreign or domestic as high crimes and misdemeanor. Yeah, well they're not gonna get anywhere with that argument But let's go on roll with it until 2018 there now I don't think it's gonna have any legs I just find it interesting that they're trying to do something like this because I mean the blowback that wolf blitzer got from The right-wing talkers is unbelievable And I'm sure that if these guys would listen to this stuff, they would feel the same way. But I have one more example of it but before we do that and what makes me pretty convinced that this was planted and I think Charlie even asked the question to get this elicit response. When Charlie asked a question he put something in there which i thought was like you said concert halls. I think that's like a clue that were gonna see that

1:01:02 Uh, some, you know, some raw, you know, we have a rock on Coachella which seems like it probably a good place. Oh my God! Could you imagine a massive fight breaking out at Coachella? Yeah I can already see the drone footage epic It would be great anyway so now Fran was... I'm sorry You need to put that in the book My friend Okay i'll put in the book Fight At Coachella Which is also a good name for a novel. Anyway, so let's get back to this So now Fran I believe was told to drop this bomb on Charlie show and this show that we're talking about it This is his interview but he was the promotes this on the show called this week It's an hour-long piece of propaganda that runs on PBS And I'll point out some more propagandistic stuff that came out they really got got to me but

1:01:54 I want you to listen to this is the end of that last clip and then continuing when she tries to explain herself even more. And she manages to worm her way out of the explanation into some other topic because she really has no legs to stand on with this argument that one crazy guy was probably insane, drove a car into the crowd is the same as a group of kids in Barcelona who plan to blow up the place and drive and kill people with advanced knowledge. There's no comparison between the two, so she's going to try to explain it and watch how she worms her way out of it

1:02:34 confront the fact that when a white supremacist or neo-Nazi does the exact same thing, that's terrorism too. Mostly in the context of the United States when you have these sorts of protests and give a permit to one group and then a countergroup wants a permit here in New York for example, police take precautions to keep them separate they put barricades up between them to try and prevent that sort of violence I don't have any doubt authorities in Charlottesville are going and say, were there things we could have or should have done to prevent it? Do most people in your field say it is surprising that we have not had an attack on the United States. Oh man... Damnit! You know I also saw the president was going to be at Camp David And Pence cut his trip short by a day All of that spells bad news to me How about um Is uh What's this stupid thing in the desert called? Coachella No no no The other one Oh Burning Man Burning Man That's this week isn't it

1:03:32 I don't know what it is. No, that wouldn't be good. That wouldn't be good and there's no they don't they're drunk nobody. No, no, no, no, no. Anyway i got the one final clip that just closed the deal for me this is local news fox ktvu and they're talking about the spanish uh... you can listen to this clip straight up and this is the clip called Spanish Connection KTVU You can listen to this clip straight up and you'll spot this. And I think only you will spot this because we've been talking about it, you'll spot it and I don't know how many people actually watch this spotted it

1:04:10 But just listen to this clip and tell me what's wrong with this picture. Suspects have been arrested, five terror suspects who could have also been linked to those attacks died in a shootout with police Now today protesters packed the streets of Las Ramblas video showing one man getting punched in the face his nose dripping with blood Tensions between the far-right activists and the anti-fascist marchers were so high that police and riot gear had to separate the groups as violence escalated Oh, they're completely putting the two together just like Charlottesville even though it's two separate incidents. Completely separate incidents! There is no Antifa in Barcelona? There was the other one she said that was on the other side of the group... Protesters or what? It's bullcrap and there was nobody and they showed no indication that police were separating two groups. It was some guy punching some guy for some reason we don't know

1:05:08 But what is that about? This is from Press TV. Of course, pay for our show. Isn't that, isn't that? No. That's Iranian I'm sorry i thought it was Russian Rival protesters argue amid counter demonstrations in Barcelona August 18th scuffles broke out between far-right anti islam protesters and... And that wasn't mentioned in the American report there was no anti Islam anything No Anti Islam this and this is um well yeah press TV so take from what you want Far right anti-islam protesters and antifascist activists during counter demonstrations held in the Spanish city of Barcelona

1:05:46 That may have happened, but it had nothing to do... It wasn't like there was some crazy protester who hopped in the van and then went to kill everybody. Absolutely not! No I agree this is very very nefarious. It's nef- that's the perfect word this is very nefarious And here's another one. Let me just, this last one I have one more Spanish clip since we're there. This was kind of interesting because... And I will say by the way Antifa is everywhere now they're in the Netherlands doing the same thing being a-holes

1:06:26 Being total a-holes. Does Soros come to mind? Of course he comes to mind! Bennett's paid for, they got signs... Before you move on because I think it passed by in the chat room what where does the name Southern Poverty Law Center come from we never really talked about that and that's not even their original name it used to be The Student Press Law Center how about that I didn't know this. But in their own documents, they don't explain the name change? Well it's about southern poverty. Lots of it down in the south. Please, please! They were a book outfit now that...poverty?! Okay fine yes This is another one there was a couple of reports that showed up about the Barcelona situation that said oh this was in the makings for 10 years did you catch this one no what is this

1:07:22 Well, this is annoying to me because it couldn't have been in the process for 10 years. One of the kids was 17! These were a bunch of youths! Youths? Youths and here's the Spain attacks youth shown as it discusses NBC I believe. Las Ramblas briefly shows the van careening by even slowed down gives us sense of the speed at which he was traveling Were you surprised that an attack like this could happen in Spain? No. Why not because it's very easy to do these attacks and Tony Sayura, an international affairs professor at the University of Barcelona was taken aback by something else There is one 17 years old

1:08:06 This is a baby. That 17-year old is Musa Okabeer, seen in a leaked police document which reveals the other suspected baby faces of terror in Spain Despite saying they were making progress on the investigation and determining not to raise the threat level today Spain's interior minister said that they would be stepping up security at sensitive sites and places popular with tourists I have a question since the media is all over this supposedly. How come they haven't tracked down the parents of these kids? Very good, very good question!

1:08:49 They track down the parents of everybody usually. I mean you have the crying parents of the dead person, you have the parents of the terrorists here and there... There's no mention of the parents of these four living guys they caught alive which should be one that they think is one reason why they caught that other event that took place further south. But where are all the parents? Where are any of those kids' parents? Are all identified? You know, forget that. If you just look at the US media there was... I don't think there was a single report about the knife terror attack in Finland

1:09:26 No, there was. NBC Nightly News had it. Very little? There was a... no. Oh okay well I didn't watch that but yeah It was very.. it was not just a quick report they went there and they had a man on the street and they talked about it You know what the answer is They didn't do one about the Siberian stabbing! No, no we didn't do that one But you know what the answers for Finland? Do you know their leader has said I have it here. We already know it's gonna be funny This is the Turku victims yeah, no It's very obvious we need more surveillance when he'd more surveillance of the internet that was his answer Even though this was you know a whacked-out migrant from Morocco Yeah, yeah, who was frustrated obviously just completely frustrated? You know whatever happened what everyone wrong and then he'd be oh shouting

1:10:16 out of snack bar and then going in and stabbing people. You know, this is problematic I got a meme from the other side that you know these are things that never ever ever ever work you know it doesn't work people to say well you know but when Obama was president Bush's president none of that works is lame but the latest is really trying to bring to the forefront the friendship between the Clintons and the KKK. And I... This is very good, so this is the three sequence of clips you'll see posted everywhere First we need to remind everybody Hillary is good friends with was he... Robert Byrd Yes Was he a senator?

1:11:03 He was a senator from West Virginia. So here's the first one. Today our country has lost a true American original, my friend and mentor Robert C. Byrd. Senator Byrd was a man of surpassing eloquence and nobility. Robert C. Byrd left such a legacy. Yes. And she stands for Klan! Or as Bill Clinton says, clue-clucks clan. You'll hear that in a moment Here's Robert Byrd on the interview that kind of put him on the map as a Klansman. Grace relations They're much, much better than they've ever been in my lifetime. I think we... this is my personal opinion..I think we talk about race too much My old mom told me Robert you can't go to heaven if you hate anybody We practice that there are white niggers and I have seen a lot of white niggers in my time when he used that word but with all

1:12:03 We just need to work together to make our country better. I'm not quite sure what he meant by there are white niggers Do you know in historical context with the heck is talking about? I have no idea what he's talking about So if there's all kinds of crazy things, he said that you can find on the YouTube But this is the best then so this is the Bill Clinton's eulogy for Hillary Clinton's mentor The guy who knows lots of white niggers There are a lot of people who wrote these Eulogies for Senator Byrd and their newspapers and I read a bunch of them They mentioned that he once had a fleeting association with the Ku Klux Klan. And what does that mean? I'll tell you what it means, he was a country boy from the hills and hollows of West Virginia. He was trying to get elected and maybe he did something he shouldn't have done and he spent the rest of his life making it up. And that's what a good person does

1:12:53 There are no perfect people. There are certainly no perfect politicians. Yes, yes wise words Bill. He died in 2010 that's when that took place all along I believe if we listen to...that didn't come up in the conversation when Hillary was given the eulogy it was brought into it just off the top of my head I think you'd agree with this It is that all along since it was known that Hillary was gonna run Bill Has been sabotaging her hmm I think that was a sabotage move just to make it so she you know because she goes on and on So really what you're saying bill is reaching out for help Never wanted her to be president Wow. He'd be the first man as kind of a meeting Oh

1:13:51 It's just like, it's just he never wanted her to be president. I think we could... if we sat down and started documenting it, we could make the point that he was sabotaging her all the way. That's an interesting point. Yeah, yeah! I think that's an interesting point but I noticed also that if you just put the name News after your show, you can be a source for NBC I think we should consider this. Well, Jackson who's next? Washington Jefferson so foolish! I think there is blame on both sides the country's only Republican African-American senator interviewed by Vice News about the president's performance this week. We need to call ourselves No Agenda Show News yeah i think you need to stick a news after that though. More than me have talked about the idea of doing just one study

1:12:53 There are no perfect people. There are certainly no perfect politicians. Yes, yes wise words Bill. He died in 2010 that's when that took place all along I believe if we listen to...that didn't come up in the conversation when Hillary was given the eulogy it was brought into it just off the top of my head I think you'd agree with this It is that all along since it was known that Hillary was gonna run Bill Has been sabotaging her hmm I think that was a sabotage move just to make it so she you know because she goes on and on So really what you're saying bill is reaching out for help Never wanted her to be president Wow. He'd be the first man as kind of a meeting Oh

1:13:51 It's just like, it's just he never wanted her to be president. I think we could... if we sat down and started documenting it, we could make the point that he was sabotaging her all the way. That's an interesting point. Yeah, yeah! I think that's an interesting point but I noticed also that if you just put the name News after your show, you can be a source for NBC I think we should consider this. Well, Jackson who's next? Washington Jefferson so foolish! I think there is blame on both sides the country's only Republican African-American senator interviewed by Vice News about the president's performance this week. We need to call ourselves No Agenda Show News yeah i think you need to stick a news after that though. More than me have talked about the idea of doing just one study

1:14:46 You know, and associating with it and then passing it around as fact. See what happens? Well so I got another the other meme was kind of caught is this upstage meme, which I've never heard. Well, I don't know that you've heard it maybe you have? I didn't...I don't notice. This is the Trump doesn't like being upstaged Yeah we always knew he had a thin skin which I thought would still work! I thought that was an invention of Warren Elizabeth Warren or someone but she picked it up and she did the best job of harping on it. I don't think that the Democrats have done a very good job using that because its really

1:15:27 To me, I think it's one of the really great insults that you can throw at somebody. Means they can't put it out but they can dish it out but they can't take it is what it says and its... But they dropped a ball on that now they've got this new meme which are trying to promote and I just picked up on it because their trying to promote it and it's like I have a series of clips about Bannon and we can either take a break now. No, well yeah let's look do you need to finish this and then go into Bannon after the break? I think we can go into Bannon after the break okay well then let's do a little intermezzo Donald loves Nazis Donald loves Nazis CNN say that he's KKK and he shouts and sings Hail with it Wow

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1:20:34 Obviously in advance of this donation I've been meaning to make it so luckily she was left off obviously in advance of this donation. Okay, let me throw up a guy to Carmen more karma seems like it works for them. You got Karma handed out Sir Fish, $201.50 will be your associate executive producer he says more amygdala references each day heard it first on no agenda good work boys what's new today? Sir fish Mark Halb, $201.00 and 31 cents is in Cedar Rapids and I believe he probably does have a mail let me see if i can find it M Halb A L B E you know some of the searches are weird in uh okay here it is in squirrel mail

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1:22:16 donation. He celebrates his 31st birthday tomorrow, he's been a longtime supporter of No Agenda and I'm thankful to both of you for your hard work in unique format that provides deconstructed news that allows him to think for himself. He is the best son on earth! Please start a no agenda... this by the way is not the first guy who said this We tried to make the meetups kind of like this, but it's not you know. I don't know if we can go any further. Please start a no agenda dating service so he can find a nice conservative girl! Not enough well-informed millennial ladies to choose from. I'm an overbearing father and I want him to get married, provide me with more grandchildren." Please wish him a happy birthday from mom and dad! Well why don't you send the picture? We'll see if he qualifies for our dating club we have very strict rules to admission You gotta have something very wrong with it. Tourette's helps

1:23:13 you know, disfigured, disformed. Anything odd would be perfect for him. Yeah small head. Small head yeah that's good send a picture so I guess we can give him what do you think some karma? Karma of course and he is on the birthday list so get to that in a moment later on You've got karma And on our list we got the last, or last... We don't have a lot today. Our last associate executive producer is actually I have a note from him he's $200 even and if i can just open the right click on the right thing. Yikao? Rick Ren! Oh says something very different yeah it's got some crazy Japanese name Yeah uh and he has sent two notes actually

1:24:03 Let me open one of them and then I'll open the other one in separate tabs. Hey John and Adam, not sure how this works but i donated $200 for the first time through PayPal and couldn't find a place to leave my message so here it is if you get this message then great! A proper dedouching is in order. And we have it You've been Deduced Having listened to the show for about six months I find your show to be the lighthouse in the perilous sea of m5m monsters as a Chinese born transplant in The Great State. Uh, I thought was Japanese that's funny

1:24:43 In the great state of Florida, I grew up under state propaganda dreaming about a free press when it arrived in the states years ago only to find it even worse and more deceptive under the guise of objectivity. And I'm assuming he means by comparison to the Chinese media." Holy crap! Your show provides very valuable analysis into their techniques, and I got a beauty coming up by the way. To which this connoisseur of fine propaganda greatly appreciates! However it still cross-check sources just like i did before In other words you're not trusting us If you don't know about this there has been a huge supporter base in China for Trump

1:25:26 Really? I didn't know this. I remember the Wall Street Journal even wrote about this, we Chinese folks all know about state propaganda too well and really admire Trump's outspokenness. Interesting! Yes. You know, I will agree the president says one thing consistently and it's a reason for this show...I think we agree that the media M5M is the true enemy of the states they are the enemy I'm not going to make the argument, although we did pick up on it before Trump got here. No because 10 years ago this is what we started doing! This is the whole point... We could have done it you know? The more I think about it looking back on things, I think yeah we could have done this 20 years ago. Oh and anytime probably

1:26:11 I don't think it is... Well, this is a good point because Tina said to me yesterday she says when I had my girls and wasn't paying attention watching the Today Show. Yeah, I wanted my girls to be safe and I wanted them grow up to be outstanding women. And now she has more time sad for her but then you get exposed to all of this stuff He says it wasn't like this. Yeah, it's always been this way. This goes back to well before I know you know better than I but yellow journalism We had you know people like the Jeff Bezos of the day who had all the newspapers and would write there You know today so we got into Spanish American War got from from Hearst That's why we attacked your was that was that was at hearse because he

1:27:00 needed the paper or something, the actual paper stock. No there was some reason... Does it have to do with the Mexicans are all crazy on weed? Or is that a different period? No that's a different one and that had to do with pulp. Pulp yeah okay wrong time. That's a different one but you know all the news media guys have been like this uh it was a little more balanced maybe but maybe not It's I remember all I know is when the TV is really the TV Network said sorry, I've really changed papers that changed and when those guys came in and they were promoting if you started looking back on it today show or any of these shows You didn't see as much as you do today where they all are doing is promoting entertainment. Yeah There's other entertainment products that they own yeah

1:27:43 Yeah, they own the entertainment products so they promote those and they want everybody to be happy and go to Disneyland. Spend a lot of money. You'll be happy! Go to Disneyland spend money. Go to movie there's a lot of movies out there all good Netflix has tons of great comedy specials just watch all that it'll be okay yeah So its like they're not doing their job is the only way to summarize Correct correct Anyway back to his note I hope this donation signifies a good start of a good relationship and probably in the future. Too bad, I can't come to the meetup in Sacramento! I have been to the Railroad Museum in 08 and loved it. Lastly as a polyglot, of course, I find Adam's occasional Dutch sentences very interesting. These include quotes from show notes for Dutch mini-lessons If I'm eligible for jingles, I am going to let you get your guys

1:28:40 I'm a casa it. I am gonna let you guys. I'm a cause a and it looks like a m a k s e Some something is in italics, so it's in Chinese. I don't know. I'm a Casa Dono oh and by the way then he said the second note just says I forgot to ask for job with karma Okay that we can do jobs karma is no problem jobs Jobs jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs You've got karma. And that concludes our, I do have a make good for one of our people and when I read it, Sarah? Yeah you got the Sarah note. Okay well I'm gonna read it. Resending this note is supposed to be read by the executive producer from 817. I really like their relationship karma so we can do that. Could you please read on the next show thank you for nearly 10 years of sanity

1:29:42 Saving content and enter a sanity saving. Thank you for my cold reads it's like I'm just as an art, it does the menu It's not well thank you for nearly 10 years of sanity saving content in entertainment I've been listening since the first episode with my estimate estimations this brings me to Baroness I am a poor archivist and PayPal only goes back to 2014 if possible I'd like to request the protectorate of Sonoma County She needs a very strong dose of relationship karma. I'm really I am really ready to meet a keeper Oh, forget it could you and Adam pull a couple of old jingles from the vault oh geez? That we haven't played in a while just grab some random ones from oh yeah. Oh, I thought she had a list of stuff No, oh just old okay. Just double all that We haven't heard alright so I do what I'll do is I'll just do no search term

1:30:38 And let's go back. I'm just this will be totally random it's never gonna work No, no, I don't know what they all are Hey, I mean play one nice click it yeah But you know when you do that there's a lot of different stuff that is clips and it's not necessarily jingle I don't know exactly but okay? I'll try to I'll try one well wait They can ask another give me another variable Okay It would generally be very small in size Yes. Yeah, yeah let me just grep that John hold on let me uh... Let me grep to find out exactly what I need to do here. We can do this one.

1:31:30 You've got karma. I just did something. I forgot the Nyet, Nyet one. What was that from? That's Rosie O'Donnell! Oh right... But we have the Nyet with music with the groove We got with Hitler. We got the whole thing. Love that one too it's so violent. Okay well yeah we got one more make good note i'm gonna read this is from Derby Dyke Now, just last show, it looks like I got my donation. Did not get to note our local cactus is the cigarro. My name changed and now it's on the list. I may have put it on there. Derby Dyke Sir Hooraro of the Southwest. He makes a point he says, I'm a guy! You keep calling me a woman.

1:32:27 Well, I was thinking about that because nobody knows what the name Derby D-E-R-B-E. I think it's because his last name is Dyke. Ah yes, that's subtle and subtle. It's associative you associate and so your first thing you think of as a woman cause you don't see too many men dykes. Well, I personally feel its microaggression to call us out like that because if you have a preferred pronoun and a preferred gender, you need to tell us that You have responsibility to he probably has Probably many times my time And we're just like what?

1:33:06 All right, well thank you all very much and thank you John for bringing those little make goods in here. This absolutely deserved these are executive producers an associate executive producers a short list today luckily we have people to thank later up coming on when we do our second donation segment And remember these credits are to be used anywhere credits are accepted and We have another show coming up on Thursday Please remember us at Devorak dot org slash NA If your going out there for your freedom of speech rally try the forum I just want to play just two little fun clips John, just from crazy stuff that I picked up off of see one is from Fox and one is from CNN Angela Rye on CNN. She's not onboard with the Jew meme or the

1:34:10 All terrorist acts with vans are Trump's fault meme. It's a good one though She really is all about the statues, of course And, uh... Yes. This is a- Yeah you remember Angela Rice? She was a staffer for the Black Caucus. George Washington was a slave owner and we need to call slave owners out for what they are whether we think they were protecting American freedom or not he wasn't protecting my freedom I wasn't someone who's- My ancestors weren't deemed human beings to him and so to me i don't care if it's a George Washington statue Or Thomas Jefferson statue or Robert E Lee statue They all need to come down She omits Lincoln though and I find that odd

1:34:49 Yeah, I think I mentioned this. No no no, you had the line of the decade after the show about the Lincoln Memorial because I told you that thing's going to get defaced or something is going to happen and you had a great idea Yeah, in fact I tweeted it. You put a Hitler mustache on it Yes with the magic marker? You have to climb up there you can get up there With this can of spray paint No how about just a sharpie Can't you just do with a sharpie A Sharpie! Sharpies much better And also the worst part is that It'll stain the marble and kind of ruin it I think that's a great idea A little Hitler mustache on Abe Lincoln

1:35:33 But he had slaves, I think. Didn't Lincoln have slaves? No. Oh then it'll never happen! We can always put a mustache on George Washington. I don't think any of the Republicans in that era had slaves and... Yeah you're probably right. It's George Washington and Jefferson and Adams and those guys they're susceptible to this sort of complaint Although it's dubious. But I'm pretty sure that all this call for, you know, all these multiple memorials... It's gonna stop! This won't continue. I just don't see that happening. Personally, I've said this, I think the memorial should all come down to all the Confederate ones

1:36:11 discussed this with other people. They were all part of a Jim Crow thing and it was all part of the women's movement at the time, it was a group of women out in the south that thought there would be a beautification movement in the country in the early 1900s to put these monuments up and because they were southern women, they tend to pick these... Huh. I didn't know that! This i didn't know it was part of a beautification project? Yeah but its beautification of the country so we want to put these monuments up and they put a bunch of these confederate guys all over the place including places where there just inappropriate yeah and uh yes

1:36:47 Like most of the places. And these arguments about Confederate memorials have been going on for 20 years, 25 year in some places... Yeah I think it's got to a head and they're gonna have-I think they should be brought down and put in museums They are art! And I feel bad about that one that was wrecked by those kids who just jerked it down It was just a random soldier But they are art there now I could challenge you to make one of these things at home It takes a lot of work and you have to know what you're doing, and they are art. And so they belong in museums we can get rid... The thing about the Confederate soldiers is that this was a war between the states one side won and one side lost and typically decide that wins gets to put their memorials up. They get to write history

1:37:29 And they get to write history and there's no reason to put the losing side, in fact Robert E. Lee never wanted statues himself, made a big point of it. The statues from the Southern guys should have never been put up... This is like putting... We had World War II, did we put Hitler and Himmler and Goebbels statues? Let's have a statue of Himmler! We have Stalin in Seattle Stalin's does Lenin I believe. Is it Lenin or Stalin? But, I think it's Lenin nobody has a statue of Stalin It's Lenin and Lenin should probably but we never had there were our allies so that actually makes some sense It's not like we beat Russia in a war that I think the Lenin statues appropriate but if but We don't have Himmler And what do you think about the grave sites they're removing gravesites No they should be untouched You can't desecrate a grave Oh well then what are you gonna have to fight their

1:38:23 There's people moving graves, digging them up to move them out. I think it's sick! That is sick Yeah that's happening too and books? And there's no reason for it. Books? Just checking...and books? What about books? Well do we- can we just have these book- because you know the books are filled with bad history No, books have to stay. Books aren't the same. There's no war... it wasn't like most of the books published were all published by the Yankees anyway. Just those monuments! That's what I see. And Mount Rushmore? I'm not arguing, I'm asking. Mount Rushmore? Bring it down? No! They're on the winning side of the battles. Why would you bring them down? Slave owners?

1:39:13 Teddy Roosevelt was not a slave owner. No, but we can bring some of them down. Lincoln was not a slave owners only two of them that may have been slave owners Washington and Jefferson I believe are the two. Well if you listen to Angela Rye... Well Angela Rye is insane! Okay well this is true she should not be it should not be allowed to speak well uh two black Americans who were allowed to speak although I only know the one guy Republican strategist no less Gianna Caldwell I think How many Republican and Democrats strategists exist in the world? There must be thousands of them. I don't know, and what do they do if you're a strategist? They go on shows! Can we just go to Washington and say hey i'm a strategist and then you get work? Yes! Well I think...I don't know if you get work but you get on a talk show. Hmm well they had these two people on and they were crying. They were crying openly on television about

1:40:08 The racism of the president it was a Fox. It was on Fox and friends even really got boxes turned on the president Well, I doesn't matter but you know, well listen to John do you? Should I filtered this by filter to wrong he'll deal with it We talk about keeping these statues up People that I've talked to say this is about history. How do we move forward? How do we learn from those mistakes if we just tear everything down, you know? I come today with a very heavy heart last night I couldn't sleep at all because president should save it all last night has literally betrayed the conscience of our country the very moral fabric in which We've made progress when it comes to race relations in America and

1:40:58 He's failed us. And it is very unfortunate that our president would say things like he did in a press conference yesterday, when he says there are good people on the side of the Nazis—they weren't all Nazis, they weren't all white supremacists—Mr. President, people, good people don't pile around with Nazis and white supremacists. Maybe they don't consider themselves white supremacists and Nazis, but certainly they hold those views. This has become very troubling, and for anyone to come on any network and defend what President Trump did and said at that press conference yesterday is completely lost in the potential to be morally bankrupt. I am so—

1:41:41 Oh man, he's another actor trying to get a job. The SJWs say wah-wah-wah Wah-wah-wah Wah-wah-wah The SJWs say wah-wah-wah All the way back to their mom's basement I love it when you abuse your kids for the show. I've said it many times we really appreciate that The black hammer bunch hey kids, I got something fun to do come on down to dad's studio You know you could be very right you could be very right they both were just crying Yeah these people have been terrorized

1:42:29 They've totally been, if they're not acting as you claim then they've been terrorized to a horrible degree. Alright let's go to Bannon. Banyon! Well you predicted it he had to leave and you were ahead of the times. Gorka is next. And Miller and Cohn. No Cohn is not going anywhere. I had dinner with the former New York banker Okay, and he gave me a couple of little things first all very for the first time never really heard him so super negative about Trump He was he was really like listen. He's a builder. He didn't really even build these guys are incompetent Doesn't know what he's doing Cohen has to go

1:43:16 Oh, really? Yes. He said Cohen has got to go. Cohen has to leave. Tell me more! Well he didn't...he said this you know that he's in the banking world there and it's like if Cohen doesn't go and I although my friend is not a Jew i have a feeling it had something to do with he'll be excoriated by the Jews but he did not say that to me per se. I did learn two other things One, the mooch his tax scam failed because if you sell your company you can sell it tax-free if you joined the government there is a minimum time that you have to have served before you can do the tax scam. It's like 45 days or something so The Mooch failed on that haven't heard anyone reporting on it

1:44:02 The mooch isn't stupid, he'll come up with something else. Now I've got the... well anyway go ahead you finished the Cohen thought No well the Cohen thought is that's all i have though there was another thing about if you want to sue and you want to win uh if you ever get Fired if you're over 40 because he says this is what happening it happened with the banks now because all the banks are purging Because there's no more banking business really And anyone over 40. He said he's probably about 80% or 90 percent of all these bankers who we even thought were nice people nice guys Immediately turn around and are suing for age discrimination and winning

1:44:40 Good. Yeah, and it says that magic number is 40 if you get let go and you're over 40 regardless of industry Just say okay do fine because I'm old And it's ageism and you will win or you'll get a settlement It's just a handy tip from the no agenda show yeah now that we do it every every show There's a handy tip as a handy tip and so back to the cone thing I believe it's because he's excoriated with in the The New York banking circles, and it just you know unless he wants it Well, your guy's saying he has to go. He is not Jewish why would he be saying that? Cohen's not Jewish?! No your guys you said is not Jewish... Why would he say Cohen has to go because he still in the New York banking scene That's why and he hears what people are saying There's got to be more truth than that. Is he incompetent as he giving bad advice? No! He's hanging out with the Nazis end of story

1:45:37 Well, Gorka's the next one to go and maybe his wife. What is she doing? She works for the government doing something...she's the one that failed to give money to one of the... Oh yeah I remember this. She doles out money in one of the departments So let's start with this. This is Kuttner, you brought this to our attention in the last show or the show before where the Progressive magazine that Kuttner is the editor I believe of had gotten a call from Bannon. You mean Kushner? Kuttner? Kuttner is the guy who was just a progressive...you know that magazine article that you cited

1:46:23 where Bannon came on and... Oh, okay. Yes yeah the progressive journalist I got you Cutner yes Yeah he's the guy He is the guy that published this conversation with Bannon which was the idea And then thing was supposedly this sunk Bannon Now i didn't think about this right away but I've come to conclusion that this whole thing was a scheme By Trump and Bannon? and Scaramucci. Oh, well wait a minute did I not say all these guys were in cahoots to pull off some scam? Yes you did it and you've got it! I think here is what the scam looks like okay Scaramucci did the same thing with The New Yorker for one thing let's see let's look at from maybe of higher ground meta yes and then looked down on it. A 50 thousand foot view. Scaramucci comes into do one

1:47:15 job, get rid of a couple guys including Prebus. And he's a hit man you know what these you worked in business there's the professionals that come in they're hatchet men yes and their consultants typically but yeah and they come in and they catch it somebody then they leave so this was a short-term job as Scaramucci I don't know who dreamed this idea but he decides to make this crazy phone call knowing he's out Yeah, makes his crazy phone call to the New Yorker and he spills his guts about a bunch of stuff. And it gets a lot of attention, a lot of attention. Great scheme. Banyan does the exact same thing again with a counter magazine that's a progressive magazine has got nothing to do in other words are not giving these scoops to right wingers that nobody is going to read.

1:48:02 It's to left-wingers. These guys take the bait and they write it all up thinking they got some sort of a scoop I believe you're gonna see this again and again until somebody gets a clue Second part of this... Well can i ask you question? Of what Bannion said What was the virus he was unleashing by doing this? I don't know. I think it's just his globalist view of things, just to get it out there because the left never hears any of this stuff and maybe there'd be somebody out there that says oh thats interesting, I kind of believe that too That's all I think it goes but here is the other part of this you're going to see also repeat itself Scaramucci who may have been the guy who dreamed up this idea shows up on Colbert

1:48:48 Uh-huh. Banyan's gonna show up on Colbert, unless Colbert gets a clue! No no no it would be fantastic but only Colbert? I mean well i guess that's the formula... And we ended the shows to be fine yeah but how about Rachel? Nah that's not an option. It has to be one of the late night talk shows where you can do jokey stuff. Yeah okay gotcha So they're gonna show up on Rachel anytime they want. But so I think that we may start seeing a trend with these guys because Bannion knew that he was out according to this guy Kuttner who couldn't make heads or tails of it, he said why is he inviting me into the White House when he quit two weeks ago?

1:49:27 And he was befuddled. He got, oh! Kutner's an idiot and he's befuddled so here is what Kutner it was on Fox. Kutner tries to analyze this in his progressive way somewhat befuddled by the fact that he has been had. Of the last straw if you will for the president when it came to Bannon did you get a sense at the time that what Bannon was telling you could bring him down? Well, I got the sense of somebody who was very full of himself. Who was very reckless first of all reckless in thinking that he could call a you know an editor of a well-known liberal publication and talk almost as if we were having a private strategy conversation not bother to even say whether this was off the record And somehow think that this would play to his advantage The other thing is really bizarre I mean Maggie broke the story

1:50:22 there had been a resignation letter two weeks ago and here Bannon is talking with me, inviting me to the White House after Labor Day. And talking as if he's still going to be in charge of trade policy. Both things can't be true and I certainly trust Maggie's reporting on this so you wonder if Bannon is giving this kind of last hurrah pretending that he's still going to be there, knowing that he is going to be out. Or if he knows that he is going down in flames and what the hell, he might as well say what he thinks And I think this kind of hubris, this kind of grandiosity may not serve Bannon well As he tries to jam the president into his reinstated role as chairman of Breitbart because you can't really have it both ways

1:51:05 He can either continue to be the president's confidant, where the president calls him at two o'clock in the morning and talks strategy about how far to go with neo-Nazis and nationalist extremists. And Breitbart isn't... I mean, Bannon isn't in but he still trumps confidante or you can have Bannon at Breitbart kicking the president in the shins. It's kind of hard to imagine that he can do both things and I think the single thing that annoyed Trump more than anything else is being upstaged by staff. We saw this with Scaramucci, there's room for only one Trump at the White House it's one thing for Bannon to advise Trump it's another thing for Bannon and to think that he IS trump to have the same kind of grandiosity that his boss has so Bannon trying to have it both ways I think is playing a very risky role here as we would say NPR there's a lot to unpack her

1:52:06 So this guy who's been waltzed down Primrose Lane doesn't see anything. I mean, but the thing that triggered me to think that this was some sort of a trick was when he talked about the off-the-record on the record commentary as the way he described it it was exactly the way The New Yorker writer described his meeting with Scaramucci on the phone call. He says, the guy I don't know if was off the record he mentioned the same thing it was like this it was like that It was like a carbon copy of the Scaramucci move only Scaramucci cussed a lot This guy is the main difference These guys are so blinded and very honest And this is a fantastic thesis and really have no argument against it because the only thing that makes sense But how can two dudes on a podcast be smarter than these elites?

1:53:00 Because we're the two great you in the greatest podcast in the universe. Okay, that's a reason I just want to see obviously spiked the ball yeah now Hold on I want take this further okay so Colbert would be a good one but who would the next person be? To do this Oh, you mean well who's going to be out next? Gorka. And Gorka is a big talker he's very good on talk shows. But who should he target which gullible idiot is he going to grab from the written press

1:53:37 If your thesis is true, I like this. So he'll do the same thing... You can't do it with the same reporter each time you gotta come up with a new one. No no it's got to be a different guy every time and there's plenty to choose from! I'm thinking someone from Rolling Stone how about that? Maybe, but at least it's a little more circumspect than these guys. These guy are jumping at the chance for a scoop. Whatever happens it will surprise us and they're going to say the same thing, Gorka upstaged the president and that's why he is out. So its really a twofer because they get to run with the meme that he has upstaged the president and thats how you get out or thats how you get thrown out?

1:54:16 Now, we'll see. We'll see what unfolds and Gorka might end up on the nightly news with a confession to make there I have no idea All i know is that im seeing a pattern and think Im legit because these two scares me There's only two points in the graph I agree it's not enough but boom Scaramucci did the exact same thing this guy did So there's something to it. Let's listen to the Banyan rundown, this is the Banyan rundown on CBS which discusses and I'll point out some interesting things as we do this. And i do want to say to people who are new to the program when you think

1:54:57 We're mispronouncing the name. It's you who is wrong, it's Banyan. White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said that Chief of Staff John Kelly and Strategist Steve Bannon mutually agreed on his exit but sources tell us that the president has grown frustrated by Bannon's rising profile and... Wait what? This is CBS? Sources they can't even say sources within the White House to just say this just shortened out as why don't they just say this

1:55:43 press conference. Mr. Bannon came on very late, you know that I went through 17 senators governors and i won all the primaries mr. bannon came on very much later than that. Bannon was one of the first White House staff members hired and he arrived with a nationalist agenda playing a key role in the controversial travel ban shortly after the president's inauguration he described himself as part of a new political order if you think they're gonna give you your country back without a fight, you are sadly mistaken. Every day... every day it is going to be a fight." His prior work at Breitbart News which has lent editorial support to the white supremacist movement made him a lightning rod for criticism.

1:56:27 What's the authority on journalism? What are those guys called? There is a lot of them. Pointer. They analyzed Breitbart and said no way this is alt-right, no way this is racist publication. Their work at Breitbart News, which has lent editorial support to the white supremacist movement made him a lightning rod. Editorial support? I love that term though! It's one thing to sympathize with Nazis but when you're providing editorial support my friend now you've gone too far His prior work at Breitbart News which has lent editorial support to the white supremacists movement made him a lightning rod for criticism We're gonna have a wall it's going to be a great wall

1:57:11 On Breitbart Radio in 2015, Bannon interviewed Mr. Trump about immigration and described himself as having more hardline views. We're the know-nothing vulgarians so we always got to be to the right of you on this. Bannon was unafraid to feud with other White House officials particularly the president's son-in-law Jared Kushner economic advisor Gary Cohn and national security advisor H.R McMaster Just this week, Bannon seemed to undermine Trump administration foreign policy when he said in an interview there's no military solution to North Korea. Yeah that was... I want to mention that yeah because they made a big fuss about the no military... There is none! No, unless you want to kill 10 million people in Seoul, Korea

1:57:54 And by the way, today this video all over the tweeters. It's very funny of Chinese and Indian troops fighting in the Bhutan region which we know is what a lot of this North Korea stuff is about but John fighting that it looks like Charlottesville, but except it's on the beach and they're throwing bottles at each other. They're not shooting There full military garb and they throw in rocks and bottles and what yes And it'd be a pushing guys down It's the oddest thing It's just really strange. I mean, if that's what it is...I mean it could be fake but it looked pretty real to me and looked like was authentic. It's from our sources so you got to believe me. Yeah sources! From sources So we move on to the weekend Just one second he said one other thing that they kept carping on uh I think was this presidency is over yeah they said yeah I saw that quote and never heard him say it oh didn't he write wasn't in article?

1:58:55 In the Cutner article? I don't know, maybe. I think it was. It's possibly taken out of context. But what is the goal? What is the goal?! The goal is just to establish a new meme... No no! What is the goal of this gambit that Trump is putting...? Oh yeah, I'll tell you what the goal is. The goal is that... And I think Trump's aware of this Is that a bunch of Democrats have taken over the White House And they're irresistible. They apparently can't, McMaster as far as I can tell is a Democrat he's got no creds otherwise. The chief of staff... So why are these guys going out and calling reporters and leaving? How does that work? Well the calling reporter is to get the message just get a white paper. Also to show that they're human and get on these shows. Right! They don't want to be actors there you go

1:59:51 They might want to be actors, that's a possibility. And then I think at this point Bannon is going to go after the... he's gonna start writing very critical stuff of some of these guys that are in there. Well, I just realized- I think Bannon was only in there for a year so he could get the lay of the land and see what the hell was going on in the swamp! Imagine this. Imagine you're Trump Then imagine you have a daughter, Ivanka. And she's been your right-hand man and she's part for PR but... She is the apple of your eye! And then whether you're an anti-Semite or not, she winds up marrying a Democrat. And she's like, Dad, come on we can do good stuff and I'll do it for the women. You like Jared? Yeah, you like Jared?

2:00:38 He is trying to figure out a way to get Jared out. Yes, this would be good strategy And that might be true. And that's what Bannion could go start writing about and start attacking Kushner to force him to get out, but it can't be for the Jew reason. It has to be a different reason. Well the Democrat reasons is reason enough... Yeah but then it'll never work I mean for the public eye they can... It depends they might have some goods on them too maybe Bannon was just making money off of it. How about that? How about a royal divorce? Well I don't think that's gonna happen

2:01:15 But in Bannon you can take pot shots now. He couldn't do that before and he was having trouble with that guy, right? So we keep an eye on Jared and Ivanka Yeah yeah so let's go to the weekend update is more about Bannon And this is the upstage meme plus a twist okie-dokie agreed upon between him and Chief of Staff John Kelly. But recent statements to the press in which Bannon contradicted the president on North Korea, and openly disparaged those in the administration did not help President Trump was also said to be irritated by Joshua Green's book, Devil's Bargain in which Bannon is credited for the election win. He characterized it as amicable. Bannon spoke to Green about his plans now that he is back at Breitbart

2:02:02 Bannon told me he is going to war for Trump, not against Trump. For Trump Against his enemies on Capitol Hill and in a further sign of difficulties for the president today The White House announced that he and the first lady will not attend the Kennedy Center honors Some honorees were planning to boycott the White House reception of the event because of what they describe as divisive rhetoric from the president Yeah this is really good I like-I love it when that happens Man where's my award show? We'll talk about that later. But meanwhile, the CBS managed to do every time CBS does anything that's more than a minute long and by the way I really disappointed in you and me yes for not complaining about this guy in his British accent

2:02:50 That is typically my thing, yes. But I've been so... you know just the tidal wave of British authoritative voices it's just too much! I don't even hear it anymore It's horrible whenever you need to do something with absolute authority and we need a couple jingles like that So we need some proper British people saying You are listening to the best podcast in the universe We need that That's when people will believe it Alright, so here's the example. This is the Bannon CBS Weekend update ISO I want you to listen to this and then i can make my typical CBS complaint Trump was also said to be irritated by Joshua Greene's book Devil's Bargain in which Bannon is credited for the election win He characterized it as amicable

2:03:44 All right. What does that even mean? This is that classic situation where they say Trump was irritated, he's shaking his fist, he hated the guy and then they bring in a thing that has nothing to do with it. They use a backup clip you're already worked up about in there apparently you can say anything in the backup so you say something and then to back it up you put a quote or you say something or you bring somebody else which has nothing, it's not backing up anything. It's almost like a non sequitur play it one more time with that concept in mind. That's very interesting Trump was also said to be irritated by Joshua Greene's book Devil's Bargain In which Bannon is credited for the election win He characterized it as amicable You know when I first heard it in my mind I figured well maybe you're something you had to see To understand the context of why that clip was there because I also heard they popped in a little bit

2:04:36 They just threw that in for no reason. Yes, I heard him. That was a good one. Just threw that in! Total non sequitur. Just threw it in. CBS does this more than any other network and and it's done well This is not just a bunch of producers who happen to you know like oh yeah sure boss I'll do this now these are people who are thinking about it when they're putting somebody's thinking about it Yeah Well, so Charlie Rose who works for CBS and does this thing called This Week on PBS which is nothing more than a bunch of clips of his own interviews and CBS reports. So CBS is actually in on PBS now. And they pulled this thing in here which I have to deconstruct it in a very unusual way and stuff you will never have heard before but this...I'm going to play

2:05:30 This is the Bannon, Banch, Bannion conflation on this week with Charlie Rose. This is... I'm not playing the whole thing. I'm just playing the part where there's a transition. This is unedited! I want you to just listen to this unedited and try to figure out and explain to me what they're doing." Just this week, Bannon seemed to undermine Trump administration foreign policy when he said in an interview there's no military solution to North Korea More arrests were made today to jeers from onlookers. And all four suspects have been detained following the twin vehicle attacks, one down a busy Barcelona street, the second 75 miles south in the beach town of Cambrils. Okay here's how I read that from a television production perspective Trump can't keep you safe is what i thought of first right off the bat

2:06:27 Well, that might be one of the messages. I found it to be the most peculiar and they did this whole thing what they do is that... They did it wasn't just this there's play part two of this clip and then you'll see and I'll give so this was a transition to another story? This was part of this? This is the way they played the story. They played the Banyan Story And then they cut right to the Barcelona story as though was the same story. A waiter near the scene told us he saw terrorists wearing what looked like explosive belts. The suicide vests were fakes, but did manage to instill fear. We continue with Ashley Parker of The Washington Post. Early on in the administration Bannon faced some trouble with the president when he appeared on the cover of Time magazine that is the worst thing you can do if your White House staffer

2:07:18 And then he participated in this book by Josh Green, The Devil's Bargain. And the president was unhappy about that. He felt that Bannon was taking too much credit for his own electoral victory and Mike Allen of Axios. inside this White House on the cover showing Steve Bannon and President Trump as equals. And Charlie, we know the president saw that book and he didn't like it." Okay so this program, this clip program is just a meme launcher is what it is? I believe so yeah but the way they did it if you notice that last clip you played started off with the Barcelona

2:08:15 They said and they made some little conclusion and Charlie says, and we'll continue with and then they went right to a Banyan story this actually rotated back-and-forth between Banyan and Barcelona in a very creative way And I immediately decided that this is a ring structure. And I'm gonna explain that two people out there who'd like to read essays I've written a number of these things and there's a book on this that you can Mary Douglas yes all thinking in circles It explains the ring structure in literature. And the ring structure has a number of interesting characteristics, and J.C. Buskill Jr., I discussed this quite a bit when he first discovered Mary Douglas' book. This was a couple-number years back. You told me about this several year ago and I read the book. Yes!

2:09:00 And it is, and there's a one interesting little gotcha. Which the rings let me explain what a ring structure is. By the way for people who like this show Mad Men The entire series was a long arc ring structure that began and ended pretty much the same way it began. If you look at the first episode and the last episode, all of the elements in the last episode are in the first episode. And then every individual season was a ring which is very common in long form so you have rings...and the idea of a ring is that it actually instills a sense of confidence in a reader or viewer or anybody

2:09:39 And it stems back, as far as I can tell to this idea you've heard it in school. It's a stupid simplistic idea that you'll hear is writers don't employ this extent unless they're doing a ring but you hear it a lot when you're in high school and other places are trying to teach how to write they say tell them what you're gonna tell them then tell him what you told him That is a ring. So you tell them what you're gonna tell them, tell em and then tell him what you told him? Yeah Okay Now that is what they always tell you to do and nobody writes like that but why not do a ring

2:10:17 Because it's dumb. If I'm gonna tell you what i'm going to do and then telling you, how many times does he need be told? Well isn't this just how television news works like I'm gonna tell you about this horrible thing that happened I'm gonna tell you and then here is a horrible thing that happened A minute ago I told you about the horrible thing that happened Actually that last part they don't normally do The minute ago I told you But beside the point, it is a ring to do things that way. But the way the ring works is usually more elaborate and the ring goes like this. It's like for example, a ring structured essay and I've done plenty of them. I do them once in awhile for two reasons one because I want to do one. I feel like it or 2. I got an essay can't finish it. I'm halfway through well I can bring myself out backwards because what are what a ring works? Like Is that it goes like this ABCD

2:11:03 D C B A so you walk in all the chords the Rolling Stones knows that's fantastic So you can do that, that's a classic ring structure But it turns out there's one little element and that was going on with Charlie Rose this show which is this nonsense with his girl who comes on and she says oh you know Trump doesn't like to be upstaged and then another guy comes in he hates being upstage that's why Bannon is out. Well the structure goes like this ABC and by the way, this is easy for me to say it had to be given an example of show how it works but it does work ABCDE

2:11:44 D, C, B, A. So there's an odd number in the middle In other words it is not balanced you don't have ABCD, D, CBA You have ABCDE and then it goes backwards so that E part has got nothing to do with the structure per se It doesn't relate It just something you throw in there like I'm gonna build a wall in the middle. And it's got no balancing side, there is no B to match a B, there is no C to match a C... It's just there! That element is always used to slip in some crazy stuff. Something that people will remember. The E chord?

2:12:23 The E, yes the E. The E shouldn't just got no matching it's in the middle of people don't pay much attention to because they're kind of hypnotized by the structure that's what's going on here when they start throwing these memes and they were made it very clear in this particular thing if you play that last clip at the end where the girl comes in and she but she has nothing to do with anything and then this guy from Axion a new news organization can't figure out who is funding that Backs her up. We've never heard this meme before that Trump doesn't like to be at the stage when he's under doing his Running for office, he's always bringing people up to the stage to let them upstage him He was talking about Rance Priebus being a superstar is gonna come into his own Yeah, this is a new yeah now you you nailed it John and you're so right the

2:13:13 The thin-skinned has been, and I think whoever is doing this if it's Trump or Bannon whoever is coming up with these strategies that you know That has pretty much gone away. It'll actually be the opposite but that's gone away then you know the only people use that are like People on reddit like oh, you're so thin skinned So just an over I by the way I still said earlier before I came up with this that I thought thin skin, they could have really done a better job of beating that to death. They didn't, they dropped it and they went with somebody... This has to be a strategy because somebody had to come up with this oh he doesn't like to be upstaged. It was never... Nobody ever said that during the campaign! This is very new. But what is behind it? What are they gonna do who doesn't like to be upstaged

2:14:10 I mean if they're launching this meme, if they're doing it to destroy him or make him look bad until the elections which is what its all about then what is the next move? Okay he doesn't like being upstaged. That's where this whole thing falls apart because I don't have a clue because I'm looking at this saying well I identified the meme And I can see that, you know, maybe it makes him look like an a-hole or he's all by himself. He's got all these superstars, not superstars but all these actual Washington DC types that are in there now working for him. They don't have a chance because he's a egomaniac. I think it plays on the old ego maniac cause we haven't heard enough of that recently

2:15:00 If you remember, that was like a big meme. Oh he's a McGallum maze and ego maniac redheaded clown. You know that? Well I think it's just the rewrite of the older complaints. Hmm... Just looking for a new one then i guess maybe they felt the pool was just thinning out too much You know, nothing was really catching anymore. That's possible. Well this one looks like it could catch We went through Manchild we went through Fatso we went through... you know by the way- We should make a list of these memes Yes we should thinking of being thin skinned I mean i will say that

2:15:40 I can imagine if for about two years you're being called Hitler, racist asshole misogynist. Oh and then shit comes out that you're not proud of that's really horrible and just it's on and on...I mean just every day your Nazi the Jews are afraid of you the blacks are afraid of you the Muslims are afraid of you a horrible man yeah i think maybe I would get a little irked well this happened to Clinton by the way I get irked from stuff on Twitter Let alone this. Clinton got a lot of grief like this for a long time and he just did his job, who knows how Trump's going to handle it? There are assumptions that he can't. Not very well obviously not very well. Well we don't know that I mean you might be handling it fine. It seems to me...I don't see the thin skinness so much. He likes to be combative, he likes to argue with the press but I think that is what he should stop doing because the press is not his friend! No!

2:16:37 Now, I think it is getting to him. He's slipping! That's what that whole... Look he slipped up said it obviously was trying to make everybody happy and also a faction of people that voted for him because I think he has a deeper understanding of what white nationalism may be out there. I think he understands Nazism too or actual hate? I think he gets that but he slipped up and screwed it up really bad maybe Maybe I'm not completely buying it. I mean that's the media's take on things, I'm not absolutely convinced No but tha-no! That's the point! This is not the media's take or facebags' take this is what has propagated People are stupid John

2:17:24 reads beyond the headline. People who send me articles don't even read beyond, oh this looks like dumb for Adam I'll send it to him! And people are dumb they're not they're not thinking at all so all you have to hear is just need to hear a thousand times whatever the president is this week and you believe it. So yeah he doesn't like to have his spotlight shared yes that and you know I'm just thinking okay where will this come out? Well, you will find out if we because it shows the I'll tell you why why it's interesting It's very easy to use a thin-skinned or the small hands or the fat so bore any of that stuff Oh, I gotta make the list. Yeah Let's do a list of them real time Okay. Well then I'll write down the lists were on a roll. I got two small hands thin skinned Small dick small pecker all hands small dick

2:18:15 Thin-skinned chat room clown round orange clown or an orange clown. Yeah clown Yes, bad hair is a wig wig that so we do fat so fat So yes within a couple of those What else now it's a neat spotlight. Well, we also Nazi all through everything not see White Supremacy woman misogynist Misogynists misogynist He's also child rapist Child rapist remember the whole he the clip of him saying I would date my daughter no say incest Incest prone yes, okay very good

2:19:05 Pig, pig is a good one. I've heard pig a lot. The Islamophobe. Yeah that didn't never got anywhere. Okay but xenophobe. Xenophobia was big, it was very big Russian spy well spy is not the right word. Russian stooge or dupe yeah collaborator anti-semite. Yeah, anti-semite's new. But it's in there but it's on the list yeah what else you know germaphobe that's where the chat room could kind of go but they're not doing a good job racist of course racists we didn't really put races in their per se braces hmm

2:19:58 That's quite a list actually. Let me see what we have here We got one two three four I'll read them We got small hands, small dick thin-skinned orange clown bad hair wig fatso Nazi white supremacist misogynist Sexist sexist needs to be in there sexist sexist the incest prone pig Oh golden showers golden showers gotta put golden showers in there Right? Golden. Narcissist, narcissist... Oh narcissists! My goodness I can't believe we're forgetting these. Golfer that's a bad hate to be called the golfer that's bad Islamophobe you got xenophobe Russian stooge collaborator oh science denier

2:20:47 Populist, that's a good one. I like populists. That's good Bertha oh my goodness Bertha did we call him Hitler yet and make sure we put hitler in there? Okay These are very good Very very creepy creepy a lot of creeps creepy creepy. Yeah geez Yeah, that's our president. Oh how about junk food? Something about... I don't know that never really stuck as a meme. Didn't really catch anything. And once it was explained- Conman! Hello conman. Demagogue. Holy crap. Yeah demagogue is a good one. That's why we want to do this now because we're gonna start forgetting these. We're gonna have this carnival barker did that really catch the carnival barker? No no It was in the beginning there was a bit of that

2:21:38 Yeah, they would have tried it. Pt Barnum they call him PT Barnum well maybe yeah tax tax cheat Tax cheat oh yes tax cheap tax cheat Yes man baby you put that way ahead and bankrupt bank bankrupt This list is fantastic Man Baby man baby man child this man child man child I think is more appropriate Not my president how about that? That was a good one Draft dodger? Yeah, that didn't get anywhere but I think it should be on the list. Deplorable... you could put that in there but maybe... Failed businessman we'll put that in a reality TV star. Oh that's the main one! That is still used! Reality TV star. So-called president? Yeah, that's what LeBron James called him. There was a lot of so-called president stuff out there. Putin's cock holster

2:22:40 That was never a meme. Didn't really catch on the other shows. Oh, Clinically Insane? John Oliver I believe. Clinically insane yeah clinically insane Yeah insane meme is great Do we have homophobe? We didn't put homophobe in there either did we? I don't remember him ever coming up as a homophobe Well, yeah. He was- he hates the trans people! What are you talking about? I just don't remember this Okay How about just celebrity isn't that bad word by itself Yeah but thats not a meme Okay We got the bankrupts...I think thats pretty good list Unhinged

2:23:25 Unhinged, unfit for office. Man they've done quite a lot on this guy Neo-Nazi See this is the problem they're not focusing Conspiracy theorist yes Is that true? Yeah! They always talk about him being a conspiracy theorist I'm going to put it on there with a question mark Unqualified Unqualified's a good one See how much fun this is. He's qualified, if you look in the Constitution he's more than qualified Yes What else has he been accused of? We want people out there to send us some email like with our words project If anything that we missed Alright we can move on He's also been called a Democrat That never does Quitter

2:24:19 When did he quit? No, that he was going to quit. He's going to quit Oh yeah Going to quit any minute Yeah But I don't think that's not really a thing That is not a meme it just...I don't know what that is How about cheater cheating on his wives anything like that No. Hmm, no I think this is a pretty good list! Yeah so far... Let me just yeah let me see we have 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 40 41 42 43 44 45 47 47! Liar liar liar we didn't put liar in there. Oh yeah liar needs to be on there liars are good ones. Yes okay well now that you mentioned that he's anti-science yes

2:25:07 I do have a clip. Okay, um i want you to play uh this is NPR1 this is W one of our producers sent this to me from WNYC New York the and also called NPR 1 the number one NPR says that of course they only play local stuff but this is a special some woman's putting together on Climate is gonna we're all gonna die and I want you to start by introducing a guy who comes on and then i'm going to play clip 2 And you're gonna have to tell me where he's maybe wrong about his whole thing since he's such an expert This is npr1 david b yellow intro

2:25:51 I am David Bielo, and i'm the science curator at TED talks as well as the author of The Unnatural World And are you still contributing to scientific? And I am a contributing editor at Scientific American. You've got all my titles now! I have them all awesome Okay So here's what we know and this is why we've gotten you in here We know that the world is warming up We know that if it continues on like this, we humans are not going to be able to live or deal with the effects of rising seas and rising temperatures. You might die! So you have this premise and so he's gonna tell us... don't forget is a science curator for TED Talks. Oh, so he determines who is going to be on the stage?

2:26:39 He's on the, well no I don't know what that has to do with it but he's got, this is just a guy who seems to have some credibility. I dunno, he's got a book out. But, so I want you to play NPR 1 cad gaff tell LED story clip and you listen to this and tell me what's wrong with what he says. and Let's stop that. And so, that is what Reagan helped do and as a result the ozone hole is healing we could do something similar with climate change So the replacements for those CFCs turn out to be super greenhouse gases What? Think of a molecule that is 1000 or more times better than CO2 at trapping heat

2:27:35 And those are basically the molecules we're using in our air conditioners and refrigerators. And the irony is, we need them more than ever because of the rising heat. We need to shift to yet another suite of molecules and there are more out there one of them is actually carbon dioxide that we could use in our air conditioners and as a refrigerant but we can also make our air conditioners much more efficient new technologies such Such as computer-assisted design which some folks like to overhype by calling it artificial intelligence Yes could enable us to find even more efficient engines that will enable these air conditioners To run with less energy you reduce the energy cost you get more cooling and less co2 Will I be able to buy this anytime soon? You will yeah, it'll come with your nest

2:28:26 That's so he says in there Since you missed it. I think mmm play the ISO and you can hear it again. I'm pretty sure I heard new technologies Computer-assisted design which some folks like to overhype by calling an artificial intelligence yeah, well I'm in agreement with him in this case because I think every single time I hear the word artificial intelligence or machine learning You know I puke Well, then booking is one thing but calling CAD a new technology which says CAD has been around since the 70s. Yeah was it one of the first applications of personal computers? No it's pre-personal computer. It was running on mini computers I mean when you got Autodesk I think. Autodesk was big yeah. On the small machines in the early 80s and 1980

2:29:16 He's calling it artificial intelligence, or people were calling it artificial intelligence because they knew how to draw a line between two points. No he was just full of crap nobody was calling CAD artificial intelligence ever! It's like this show the no agenda show news filled with artificial intelligence and machine learning. So I have to assume this guy doesn't know what he's... Nobody would say that, that CAD computers is artificial intelligence. No, let's play that ISO one more time so people can really appreciate this. This is coming new technologies Such as computer-assisted design which some folks like to overhype by calling it artificial intelligence yeah Yeah, I said this may be a trend because I saw an article talking and the thing that maybe was a UK article that the Intelligence services number wasn't someone was going to use cryptography for something had to look it up

2:30:17 And the headline was, based on Nazi technology. Which refers to the... The Enigma machine? Yes! So this cryptography Right because before the enigma machine there was no such thing No we didn't have any crypto, not at all But it may be something weird like that I don't know why that guy would say that besides he has no idea what he's talking about But he said more weird stuff in there, John. He says that we need... Did he say we need to run our air conditioners on CO2? Yes, no the whole thing was weird How does that work? And she was and she I don't know maybe she had a crush on the guy but all she's like oh yeah, yeah Well before we take our little break then let me do a science clip because we have the big eclipse coming Everyone's all jacked up Does it seem to you like people are more jacked up about this eclipse than previous eclipses

2:31:16 Well, they've done a good job of promoting it because it's the first eclipse in 100 years that covers the entire United States. Starts up in Oregon and goes down to I guess Georgia or Alabama. And it enters Oregon the 33rd state then passes along the 33rd parallel? Yeah kind of yeah Well, people are real jacked up about it. Oh everyone's jacked up but there's already apparently traffic jam in Portland up in Oregon where there is a bunch of people that have set up shop to soak the tourists who come in for their one minute glory and

2:31:56 And yeah, well you know so this and of course the glasses. And then I guess it was Amazon who handily played into that and then there was a shortage of glasses and everyone's getting to get some glasses. Well they also sent out bad glasses Mimi got some bad glasses. Bad glasses! Yeah. Bag glasses, well... By the way you can usually look through it there's certain CDs that you get to test them but a lot of CDs because they have a silver kind of a it's not silver whatever is coated with inside I think it's silver maybe anyway you can hold the CD up and you can look through this CD unless its got painted on one side and you can see this look at the Sun safely Well I mean always figure that all of this is bullcrap and then just saying so don't look

2:32:41 So you can actually see, all of the universe will be revealed. Expanding Earth, Flat Earth... something that they don't want us to look at obviously. Whatever it is, don't look! Don't look at the sun! We don't want you to see it I like the flat earthers and their comment about how an eclipse works It's actually quite funny Alright anyway there's more we need to be worried about John Okay, so some viewers out there have been asking how can you protect your pets during the eclipse? Well vets say it's pretty simple. Avoiding eye contact with the sun is natural for animals but just in case let's try to keep them inside or even in the shade. The main thing is keep them from looking directly at the Sun which you can't tell them not do that they should hopefully not do that in general but if you want to be extra safe just keep him inside

2:33:26 Animals in general probably don't want to necessarily look directly into the sun, so that should be a saving grace for our pets. Now another expert warns the eclipse is a lot like the 4th of July with a lot of commotion happening So for the eclipse on Monday keep an eye on your pets To me this is a tipping point when people are worried that their pets are gonna look at the sun and hurt their eyes I think we officially were lost now We're like Atlantis which was just gone Well, I can't make an argument against this concept because this is pretty bad. And if doctors would... Either that or there's just too much news time to fill. There's really news around the world. We do it on our show for three hours and we talk about different stories. We sometimes dwell on a story but there are stuff to talk about besides this! But how could anyone in their sane mind produce a piece where

2:34:22 insinuation is that a pet might look at the Sun during the eclipse and hurt its eyes because it's so interested in the eclipse. I mean, how does that... It's been hearing all the hype! Exactly. Maybe it's just Oregon I know. No, it's everywhere. Although Oregon is a candidate for the looniest state there is... maybe Florida should win that but Oregon's right up there and weren't they really racist states? Oregon? Oh yeah! But then don't they come from severe racism? Yeah That's my cue for you to say yeah and here's what it was because I don't remember really. I don't remember either I just know its effect okay sources say sources say

2:35:23 Now there's a bunch of hipsters up there and they're cool. They're good with it. Let's start by thanking a few people for sharing their stories. Oh, Jerry Lewis died? Yeah. That's what I'm seeing in the chat room. Well that's interesting because i do have to make the announcement that Dick Gregory died! I saw that too yeah. Yeah, Dick Gregory died like yesterday...I think Dick Gregory- I saw Dick Greg- I saw Jerry Lewis when I was a kid on stage and with Dean Martin and I saw um I saw Dick Gregory a number of times he when he was a stand up comic incredibly funny

2:36:03 Really, and then he became kind of this. He's the one who became kind of political and I think kinda nutty but he is the one who promoted it. I think we had a clip of it promoting the idea of two Trumps Was that him? Yeah, yeah it was Dick Gregory. We always had the two Obamas theory but he's the one who came with two Trumps and he's the one who said and that's what I think the clip said its the Trump with a red tie thats the real Trump Right And the blue tied Trump was the phony fake Trump And that would kind of make some sense because the way he was working himself to death giving all these speeches. But anyway, we'll never know. So but we do know one thing... We have a lot of people to thank. And I would say that if you look at the eclipse through a CD and your retinas are burned into your skull please do not sue The No Agenda Show! We have no money

2:36:59 I said, but made it clear you have to test these because not every CD works. Yeah i know but yeah you got to be careful in today's environment Don't even look at the sun don't even go to the eclipse! I think this is a waste of time. Don't go to the eclipse let it come to you Nonsense You know what? I'm protesting and I am NOT going to watch the eclipse I'm pretty sure everyone who watches the Eclipse something bads gonna happen to you so... They've been putting these guys on the air one after another When you see a full eclipse and get to see the corona, it changes your life. And I'm wondering about those guys. Yeah yeah...I'm not gonna be watching it

2:37:40 Let's start with Ari Kirogi. His donation is for Brian Patrick Mickey for his big 50th birthday on August 19, I believe he's on the list $150 thank you Samuel Lichtenstein in New York City 12345 Sir Donald of the Fire Bottles Baron of Spokane Valley. And he happens to send a note we have to read because on Federation letterhead... Ah yes, always a necessity! So it says this is just dear Bob and Ray twice each week no agenda provides me with the tools to resist the thought programming by the mainstream media here's my meager payment for those tools sir Donald WA 6

2:38:26 O-M-I. Yeah, 73 is kilo 5 alpha Charlie Charlie. Ivan Wikheim in Oslo Norway. Huh? What does our Norwegian friend say to us? I've been listening to your great show for years but being a broke student for much of it I haven't contributed much and everybody contributed today $100. Thank you very much sir Abel Kirby night of the fighter flight fight or flight that's cute Broomfield Colorado 100 Jason Denny. Did you see his note? Very good idea from Sir Abel Kirby, I got a kickback for switching cell service providers thought i'd pass it on thank you very much great idea thank you send your kickbacks to the no agenda show right jason denny 9570 he's got an F cancer request yeah can do it now or later that will do it uh later yeah gilles pavo

2:39:26 One of our few French listeners in Paris, $80.55. Bonjour! Jason Butler 808 boob. He needs some Jobs Karma at the end. Can you give him Jobs Karma? Will do. Duncan Geldenhues... Wait stop! Feltenhaas. Feltenhaus. He sent his own pronunciation guide one more time. Feltenhaus. Feltenhas. Feltenhaus. Feltenheis. He said heis. Haus. Say it. He says, Geltenhaus. Geltenhaus. Haus. Geltenhaus Sounds like haste to me. Okay Well we appreciate you sending along your own pronunciation guides that is appreciated That does work He's a millennial Yes was smart

2:40:11 He's got a douchebag call out for somebody. It's a long note though, don't read the whole thing Well let me see he's well it's interesting millennial from Queensland here slowly watching people around me start to suffer from swollen amygdala Yeah attentively consuming the show as it comes out here on Friday slash Monday morning The first thing I do before I make a cup of coffee is set this show to download an iTunes been really enjoying and watching The Talks interview done in YouTube I discussed all this with my dad who hit me in the mouth a good 60 episodes ago. Good man! Last night over dinner, having studied the crazies that call themselves my peers for years... ...I predicted the reason that you pulled out of- oh talking about The Alex Jones Show. Uh... Fully Woke Millennial? Okay great thank you very much Duncan. Hilton Huis

2:40:56 Seth Harper, 77. Well he has a call out. I don't see it! I don't see the call-out Oh here it is can you call out Chewy and Val? Chewy... DOUCHEBAG! ...and Val... DOUCHEBAG! That's douchebags for taking the sweet value for value without contribution there you go good call Seth Harper 7777 parts unknown Sir Rick in Arlington Washington 6996 Chris Sundberg in Mercer Island, Washington 67. Zohai Zamma in Japan 60. Oh Kohai, Kohai, Kohai! Zama in Shinjuku Japan 66-66 Sir Bob of the dude's name Ben 6006 mini boobs NC4RG 73s Booblets 73s Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie

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2:43:10 U.S., somewhere, Andrew Gusik in Greensboro North Carolina Kevin Porter and Beaver Creek Ohio Jason Clegg in San Diego California and last on the list today Donald Schwartz and Chino Hills and from Pop Money Kirsten Kirsten Gleb got 50 into the bank directly. I want to thank all these folks for helping us on 5, show 957 I believe if i'm not mistaken and it did help this produce to show this is very useful Jessica LaRue also had a call out she's the $50 donor from Gettysburg want to call up my boyfriend Wayne for being a douchebag and not donating yet

2:43:55 Ah, the relationship will be doing just fine. Sure... Well, thanks everybody. Appreciate that and we will have another program coming up on Thursday That all depends of course how many of you look into the sun I got an idea set your recorders if you're going to go anywhere where there's a Where the eclipse is taking place in public? I think you should take along your and you know record this when i'm about to play here Put it on your little mp3 player And then you know bluetoothed it to yours car stereo and the minute the eclipse starts to happen in your area You hit it Thanks Obama. There you go Yes, I think this is a very good idea all right We had some jobs karma and other an F cancer car muscles do that jobs Jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for John You've got karma

2:45:07 It's your birthday, birthday. I'll know what you're thinking... And not a very long list today but we do have Mark Halby saying happy birthday to Michael Halby turning 31 tomorrow We have Eric Kieragi Happy Birthday to Brian Patrick Mickey turning 50 or turned 50 yesterday Brandon Elsbury Happy Birthday to his smoking hot girlfriend Kaylee who turns 21 today and his younger brother Thomas will be 18 on the 24th Happy Birthday from everybody here at the here

2:45:48 Producers, actually our royalty who have continued to contribute to the No Agenda show and therefore we congratulate Sir Joseph now of his change being Sir Wack-Wack Derby Dyke now known as Sir Huaro of the Southwest and Dame Sarah Bradley Baroness of Sonoma County. And we congratulate you and thank you very much! This change will be reflected on the Peerage map at itm.im slash peerage or at devarg.org slash peerage dot htm all caps I think. Not all cops! No knights today, so no knighting ceremonies none of that tonight. Hey there was something odd about the Bartholona attack... I got this all and I was getting all this in real time too it's really odd

2:46:34 I know so many people around. Listen to this. Police cordons, they have given brief details of police a short while ago of the main suspects A man who had passport identified as Dries Boukirbira, a Moroccan national Now it's not clear if that is the man That is the identity he had on him and the police investigators are saying this is a bigger operation. They don't think there are just these men involved, but there are other reports coming in that the CIA informed the Spanish authorities two months ago that could be at risk of an attack on this very stretch of road so as investigation starts we're also questions about was their intelligence known here? And where they go from her tonight I don't know if you heard that but i heard that almost immediately

2:45:48 Producers, actually our royalty who have continued to contribute to the No Agenda show and therefore we congratulate Sir Joseph now of his change being Sir Wack-Wack Derby Dyke now known as Sir Huaro of the Southwest and Dame Sarah Bradley Baroness of Sonoma County. And we congratulate you and thank you very much! This change will be reflected on the Peerage map at itm.im slash peerage or at devarg.org slash peerage dot htm all caps I think. Not all cops! No knights today, so no knighting ceremonies none of that tonight. Hey there was something odd about the Bartholona attack... I got this all and I was getting all this in real time too it's really odd

2:46:34 I know so many people around. Listen to this. Police cordons, they have given brief details of police a short while ago of the main suspects A man who had passport identified as Dries Boukirbira, a Moroccan national Now it's not clear if that is the man That is the identity he had on him and the police investigators are saying this is a bigger operation. They don't think there are just these men involved, but there are other reports coming in that the CIA informed the Spanish authorities two months ago that could be at risk of an attack on this very stretch of road so as investigation starts we're also questions about was their intelligence known here? And where they go from her tonight I don't know if you heard that but i heard that almost immediately

2:47:17 So whether that was launched immediately or whether it's true, I'm not sure how that comes out so quickly. I heard this too. Yeah and they're going to have an attack on that very stretch? That doesn't make any sense. It was kind of odd we have problems now with the Air-to-1 you know we kind of took our eye off the ball there We have the German elections coming up in September, I believe. And he's doing more or less the same thing he did with the Turks residing in The Netherlands He's calling out and saying hey you Turks if your good Turks you gotta vote against Merkel

2:47:57 Which I think is meddling in the election. I think that's what it's called? Maybe we should spend some air time on that to maybe talk... There are a lot of Turks in Germany! That could be a very powerful voting bloc. The Turks were the number one refugee, not refugee but the number one workers they brought in for decades. For a long time yeah. Yeah there was lots of Turks and so you know this is not going to stand well with Angela she will not like this No, it's meddling. It is pretty much meddling in the election but I guess no one is going to talk about that

2:48:34 No, it doesn't involve the Russians. Oh who care? Oh John You know you had such a great idea on was it the last show or the show before we've been talking about you know The kind of again the rise of the concept of people chipping and we already have some pretty good ideas, you know Insert the chip at birth to track your child so you don't lose your child can even be switched at birth all these horrible stories We can already dream up the PR campaign And we're-we don't have enough of the skill, We don't have enough for the contacts and quite honestly We're pretty lazy so we're not going to do anything to jump on this obvious cash bonanza. However Your idea of the Faraday gloves I think this is a Kickstarter It might be! And we already have the jingle When you're hip and chipped it's not enough to encrypt Buy some Faraday Gloves Wow

2:49:30 That's a winner. Yes, so you got the jingle you got the name let's make this puppy We can make fashionable ones. The only missing part of this is that there's nobody getting chipped enough to buy these gloves Yeah, but we got a start you know we have a very long Kickstarter 15 year Kickstarter I don't know if that's possible. I'll investigate that If your hip and chips That's right You get your Faraday gloves everybody beautiful. I'm all in

2:50:06 There's a move being made, which I think was Obama maybe started this. It's to give US Cyber Command more freedom? Operational independence... How much freedom do they need? Well the way i'm reading this is more freedom from NSA so they can operate independently from NSA and I think this is an important move This may be a counter-move in the deep state because we know that NSA guys they know everything They should. So US Cyber Command, which then I think they would report...I don't know if there would be any difference in reporting but anyway just giving a new unit a whole bunch of more operational independence and certainly if it was something that Obama wanted to do- I'm sure the Obama administration was really afraid of NSA guys. They had the goods on everybody! Yeah, yeah took over from the FBI as the number one blackmailing operation

2:51:06 So I thought that was kind of an interesting move. Again, none of this is really covered very well. No, of course not. You get a letter in the mail. We will not be covering this any longer. Let's see... Canada sees unsustainable spike in asylum seekers. This is also this... It's now not just Haitians who are trying to get to Canada. No, it's Americans! It's not just Americans. It's illegals in America who are leaving. Yeah well

2:51:43 They're going to Canada. Yeah, I can't take it anymore yeah You know which makes no sense because the northern territories which are now called Wanda land or whatever they call that I don't even remember Xenia I have no idea I can't remember what they call this new area you know The Northern Territories used to be called the Northern Territories That's the way I known ya know they got a new name They renamed him some about a year or two ago We talked about it on the show It's got some wacky name I can't think of. Great Bear or something like that? Anyway, somebody in the chat room will pop it up. They can send them up there and there is lots to do! Nobody is doing anything up there...it's just too cold. Well, the Canadians don't like it. They say they can't handle this. But then there was a big shots about this. Oh we welcome all your huddled masses Yeah yeah There's a big line going into Canada They're global supremacists up there Or something

2:52:41 I have a Milo clip, the last one on what he doesn't like about Donald Trump. And i think it's something we've talked about on the show and we should make sure we continue to talk about it Wait... oh okay got here. I don't like the fact that Donald Trump clearly doesn't read you know? He doesn't read books and I don't think he has much of a grasp of policy detail but then again neither did Reagan But his instincts are great His instincts are fantastic and there are other things that I like about him enough for me to be a fan You know, it's very interesting. He did he played the or he plays this very well But he was kicked down in the gutter and he got really humble Then everything changed and he became like sad Milo then now and you know good on him then now that is That's a good story I didn't realize that he is now number three in The Times bestseller list so he effectively just

2:53:32 smash the system because the system was certainly out to get him. What was his sin again? What did he do that got him... It was something about children and pedophilia, and...? No you guys first he got kicked out of Berkeley a big riot took place in there somebody brought up the fact that he talked about casually about pedophilia because he was abused as a child. Right, that's what it was. And so he said something, you know just one of his often... But he got railroaded! He got railroaded yeah and so now he wins but he seems dangerous but he's back with ya he's back its very smug the way he sounds now

2:54:13 You could probably go download this from the C-SPAN site. He's outrageously smug, I found him incredibly annoying he just full of himself and I think he must have made a lot of money on that book. Yeah! I don't know if you've made $1 million in one month but getting a big hit of money like that doing your own thing is like independent night it's responsible to a publisher. It goes to your head if you're into something. If we were getting 5 million dollars a show I think it would ruin us. How about a fifth of that? Did you say more you than me is that what you said, I didn't say nothing Wow You are a dick. It takes you at least six beats Oh, I'm sorry yeah, I'm sorry there's only one of us flying the show

2:55:04 Okay, I'm just saying though it's 6b. I will insult you yeah, I do once I thought maybe once every other show It's a minor insult this is the joke inside just kidding but I slip it in and then I start to count And sometimes when I feel that i've actually won, it's like a competition. You don't get it! Yeah you miss it completely and then you tell me the next show yeah because you listen to the shows I guess... Someone has to. He's convinced with me about this. No I usually congratulate you on a funny joke that's that's the truth you're making this up okay? That's what you said that's what you do always especially if I can slip it in

2:55:43 As it were. Yeah, well... So Milo is totally full of himself and I found him very offensive he'll never get an interview. He just stepped all over this woman who is Vic she is the one who runs Regnery which is the number one publisher of almost every she does the Coulter books they do all the conservative books uh-huh and and she knows a lot And he never let her say anything. She was trying to compliment him and he'd step all over her Anyway, it was worth watching if you get a chance I figured out maybe why people are so crazy up in Oregon The state of Oregon has made drug possession for personal use and misdemeanor and not a felony Governor Kate Brown signed a bill which reclassifies personal use possesion for drugs like heroin cocaine and meth

2:56:32 Supporters believe people are better served with treatment, not jail. The misdemeanor drug law does not apply to people with multiple drug convictions or a previous felony conviction." I didn't realize that this was going on? I didn't know this either! This is news and i think it's pretty big... They're taking the Portugal! This is Portugal! Yeah well in all the articles that are coming out say oh you know this has gone horribly wrong everywhere But yeah, except Portugal apparently. There is a very large backlash to the legalization process of marijuana mainly right? I mean you hear it all the time the Trump administration's all in on this nonsense. They're adding meth and heroin and everything's in here It should be! I think it should be exactly the Portuguese model which has really backed everybody off of drugs

2:57:20 I don't know. You listen to Michael Savage go off on marijuana, it's unbelievable! He says there is no proof of anything that has no medical benefits this is bull crap and he goes off the deep end and all you do is ask these old women up in Washington State that you go one of those stores and the place is filled with old ladies because they're aches and pains. I got a note from producer Eric Wesseldyke Adam and John? He says Adam, but I'll just add that in for form. On the last couple of shows you brought up the various Millennials that you know say they feel a need to speak out against racism bigotry etc unless they want to be seen as enabling it. I am an older Millennial born in 1986 And I think I figured out where it comes from in my own case so I thought I should share this Jon

2:58:10 When I was in elementary and middle school, we had multiple anti-bullying campaigns. And they usually included a time of discussion where we parsed out who was to blame in the scenario. There was always blame assigned to the bystanders who did nothing to stop the bullying teaching us that we always have a responsibility to speak up. It's the application of the principles supposedly learned from the Kitty Genovese murder which is problematic by itself if I recall The campaigns were trying to override the bystander effect These campaigns, interesting he calls them campaigns also gave us the idea that if someone tells the bully to stop that he will. When you learn something like that as a kid and don't have life experience to disabuse you of the notion it sticks with you I think that is one reason why so many Millennials feel compelled to speak out on Facebook Twitter etc whenever something bad happens

2:58:58 They've been convinced by their teachers that bad things can be stopped by enough people speaking out against it, which convinces them that they're actually helping the situation by posting statuses and tweeting. Finally when we were kids nearly everything and everyone told us that we could change the world Bill Nye said in every show Captain Planet inspired us to save the world by recycling And our egos were inflated by Mr Rogers telling us that We Were Special just The Way You Are! We were told we could be whatever we wanted to be in the sky was a limit If you keep telling people that long enough, they eventually will believe it. I think the world cares and I think that the world cares what they have to say. And think of the world cares about what they have to say." I think this combined with the overt attempt to program kids to override the bystander effect has made many of us think we need to speak up whenever we see something bad happening. I think that's a decent analysis. Sounds reasonable There is more to it but yeah definitely! Definitely! I appreciate that. Millennial morals

2:59:58 Now, we're always...we love the millennials. We have so many millennials that listen to this show I said that the meetup in Sacramento was half a millennial's It's the grandfather effect it's the Bernie effect it must be Well, I think is just they liked the show and I don't think there's a grandfather element involved but thanks anyway ageist I was talking about both of us not about you But if the shoe fits by all means put it on So let's talk a little bit about the Kennedy Center Honors Boycott. Yes, this is very exciting to me because uh... This is very elitist this Kennedy Center honors do they air this on TV all the time? Oh yes of course on PBS. C-SPAN as well or just PBS no no no PBS usually but let's play this clip This is this is the big elite thing right this is oh total yeah like I could not yeah this is harder to get a ticket too than the Video Music Awards

3:00:50 Today, the White House announced that he and the First Lady will not attend the Kennedy Center Honors. Some honorees are planning to boycott the White House reception of the event because of what they describe as divisive rhetoric from the president. Reena? All right so... I have a couple of thoughts on this. One, for one thing it is a total elitist event where they hand pick a few Hollywood people like LL Cool J is going to get the award. This is for lifetime achievement. LL Cool J's getting a Lifetime Achievement Award? Yeah, for contribution in American culture Let me tell you about LL Cool J because when Judy McGrath was president at MTV Networks

3:01:32 She, I don't know. She might have been blowing him and this is literally people at MTV like what? Is LL Cool J up hanging out with Judy McGrath again? He would hang around the MTV executives just hanging around he'd be sitting in the office he'd be over in the corner it was just everyone hey how you doing? LL Cool J to sort of wow that's LL Cool J and it just got to be the point where he was like there's him again He's got as far as I could. I was, I remember being surprised Mr. Don't call it a comeback that he just sucking up to get on TV. But he seems like a real suck-up to me just from my personal experience. Well, he sucked himself up enough to get an award for us being a lifetime achievement too for contributions to American culture and good good on him

3:02:26 And most of them are like this year's award winners include who the people were going to boycott. The cool J didn't say anything, but with this old choreographer Carmen something I can even pronounce her last name and she was good. She was 86 you want to go to anything? And I want to...and Norman Lear, he's the one who was really the instigator it seems to me. And I wanna remind people that we talked about this before and I'm gonna talk about it again in maybe my last contribution to today's show. Norman Lear is the one who did All In The Family and All In The Family portrayed a guy who was bull crap

3:03:05 The main character, Archie Bunker was a classic Democrat working class guy with all the opinions of a classic Democrat who would always vote straight ticket. My dad was like this straight ticket all Democrats are working party big fan of Roosevelt talked about Roosevelt all time that's the guy that Archie Bunker supposed to be but no because he didn't like them the narrative. He twisted Archie Bunker to becoming a Republican And there's no way in hell that character existed in real life. It was a Hollywood creation and it was just done to slam the Republicans. Very successful, very very successful. Extremely successful but everyone who watched it including myself knew that guy was really a Democrat There is no Republican in the world at that time that had those thoughts and opinions

3:04:01 And I thought that was the beginning, probably the beginning of why i'm doing this show. I saw the bullcrap early. Actually saw the bull crap early." I like that you said he's probably the instigator for this boycott as we know he is the Norman Lear foundation they're the ones who write all the messaging into the script Right, and yeah. Yeah was it to modern family examples? Yes finish the show with that clip Okay, let me just see which one it was the numbers I think I think was normally Lear foundation Let me see numbers Was it there wasn't a leader foundation well is only one of two guys and I think it was there yeah pretty sure

3:04:49 Because now of course it's not showing up. It would be great to end the show with that, but it's been quite a Poor show for finding stuff yeah well happens Not as smooth as you show let's put it that way Norman Lear You will not get the A, the last show cut. But then again I gave the last show an A to The Family. It was what grade do you give it? And I gave it and A. What did we get? We got C donations Yes! That's the point that I'm going to make. We do an A Show and we get C Donations This show would probably be much better in donations because were sloppy

3:05:26 Okay, I have it here. It's Hollywood Health and Society Martin Copland on behalf of the Norman Lear Foundation So in the course of our work this is a In two years 11 to 13 335 storylines that we worked on Have been aired We've worked with 35 networks in the past four years 91 different television shows There you go. That's the power of the Lear Foundation Yeah, they go in there and write scripts for these guys And they get edited here and there but they're probably well written scripts But they had an agenda yep Well The Machine is all-powerful ladies and gentlemen be sure that you're not too affected by it It's got a lot to look at this son Do not look at the Sun for sure

3:06:22 I'm telling you there's some Illuminati idea, something going on. All right everybody we will return on Thursday until then remember us at thevorac.org slash NA and coming to you from downtown Austin Texas in the common law condo here in the Cluedio 5 by 9, FEMA region number 6 on the governmental maps In the morning everybody I am Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley Wear this politics's alt douchebag. I'm John C. Dvorak. Anti-fob for me! And we will return on Thursday, right here on No Agenda you know we always say adios mofos! When your hip and chipped it's not enough to encrypt buy some Faraday gloves

3:07:35 all right speeches have now been canceled i did the right thing not only was it right, it was just This is mind control. We are all slaves of Gitmo Nation. We are all slaves, All slaves, all the slaves, all the slaves, alt-right! Alt left! It's pronounced Antifa People are no longer listening. It's like lala lalala What you say to me yourself, you get your cock through half. What you say to me yourself, you get your cock through half. We are all slaves, all slaves, all the slaves, all the slaves Every Confederate statue and every vestige of white supremacy has to go. And how about the NBA?

3:08:41 How about Thomas Jefferson? Define Albright to me. You define it. He's attacking us. Daughter to a Jew, give his daughter to a Jew! Anything is necessary. A statue is where it belongs. The statue is the symbol of nationalism People are no longer listening Nationalists are something different than racism Antifa I need this hassle in my life. They're a pretty pathetic bunch of losers in general calling each other names everywhere. Someone's getting cornholed today. Sounds like a recipe for success to me. In the sun, but resistance summer. Summer resistance... Resistance summer... In the sun, but resistance summer. Resistance summer... Bright. Antifa. Antifa.

3:10:26 We need to be able to come up with a way to say, how can we make sure never again? If anything's necessary this can never happen again. Antifa. Right! Antifa. Enemy humanity that needs to be... We need to be able to come up with a way to say how can you make sure it ever again?

3:11:19 Antifa, of course is short for anti-fascist. It's pronounced as an antifah. Antifa. Antifa. As an enemy to humanity that needs to be stopped by anything necessary. Antifa. The best podcast in the universe! Adios mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N A No agenda