High Falutin

00:00 Aufwachen, ja? Sie sind sehr bekennend im Podcast. Adam Curry, John C. Devorah It's Thursday July 13th 2017 This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 9 or 4 or 6! This is no agenda Dodging selfie sticks and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet in the capital of Gitmo Nation Renaissance Man In Florence Italy in the morning I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I get better reception than he does and like that glassware all over the studio. I'm John C DeVore Better reception yeah, maybe better reception a better reception I don't know what's going on we have we have weird sounds going on here in Florence I've got high-pitched whines in the background. I don't know what's going on We'll just have to live with it

00:57 Yeah, well I wonder if the chat room thinks you're coming in as poorly as you come in here. But it's okay! Well that's not okay... It's not okay. Whoops now your coming in great! Oh okay well there ya go. That's perfect who knows what going on? Yes John here I am in Florence Italy could not be more downtown in Firenze Good no, it's not good because I think actually Because i'm here right downtown There's just electrical signals everywhere If you look out if you look out the window there's wires strung all over the streets I don't know what they have gone to the underground cabling yet in Florence. No, I don't think they'll ever go to that but it's uh

01:41 Yeah, there's I mean this just tons of electrical bits and bobs what an interesting place Florence is okay. Have you ever been? No, I've never been to Florence I'm always willing to go because it's good everyone says oh You gotta go to Florence because if you like art every time we turn around there's artists the town of art yeah Well no III would say if you want to go to Florence book two days exactly no more no less Okay Now we're here for a couple of reasons one is of course my sister wait stop You can't say you can see something like that. I'm going to explain I'm going to explain it, but I have to give give a little background

02:20 The reason we're here is my sister lives outside of town in Florence and it was Tina's birthday when we did, you know. We're going to do a big birthday celebration which I'll talk about later perhaps but of course when you're in Florence there are some great things to see there is the Michelangelo's David obviously which is once you really see it you really start to understand what you know what the Renaissance was about the Renaissance man and just really how unbelievable the technology was back in the day And I question what happened to all of that and why did it take so long for us to figure stuff out again. Then there's the dome, you know the famous cathedral? Yes! The dome...I wanted see that-that dome is famous Yeah. And then there's about 8 million tourists with selfie sticks all walking around like fricking retarded moron douche knuckle dick heads It is horrendous

03:17 It's stupid. Oh, that's kind of art in itself No it's not you have no I mean first of all who decided that selfie sticks was still a thing here? It's crazy Every and young and no one is present in what they're seeing Everybody just walking around these damn selfie sticks Look, they're not actually looking at the art. No! They're looking at their screen of the art. It is... humanity is lost here. Lost and besides that they are only shopping it's just shopping. It's like oh we have an H&M Oh yeah let's go to H&M I bought this wonderful USA T-shirt in Florence at the H&M At H&M It is disgusting. It is incredibly disappointing

04:04 Really, it is... Well that sounds to me like I shouldn't go at all. You shouldn't? Well again just for a day or two clearly to come and see we didn't go up the top of the dome you know although we had plenty opportunities to skip the line! Skip the line! John it's so over commercialized and people- and its just a million Asians I'm not racist well I wasn't but now am. I'm totally racist Chinese or Japanese? Who gives a crap?! They just walk around aimlessly, they walk around aimlessly and they stop right in front of you. You're constantly bumping into people... I started body checking! I really did. You seem a little bit on edge. I am a little bit because it's also very warm. It's warmer than typical for this time of year

05:02 But okay, so all you see here and I'm not kidding besides the obvious it really is there really only a car you want to go To the to the Academy. You know the that's where the word David is And the tours are pretty good. Did we talk about the touring system that they seem to have in Italy? Maybe it's just me, that I've never seen this before It used to be you'd have someone with an umbrella and they hold up the umbrella You follow them and tell what is going on Now the umbrella has been replaced by, oh yes a selfie stick. Typically with like a piece of pink underwear on top of it or some kind of recognizable scarf and they hand out these little receivers to everybody

05:48 It's a little plastic, you know it's a VHF receiver and you get a mono earpiece. And then these tour guides they have a well transmitted... Are the earpieces replaceable so you don't get somebody's ear waxing? Correct yeah and you don't have to give that back You just you get that but its even cheaper than what you get in the airplane like hey would you like some headphones The things where you say no thanks I got my own headphones So they give you those and so it's almost like a wireless lav transmit and receive system. So the tour guide will have their little, you know, their little lav microphone which of course they're not going to put on there lav no they're going to talk right into it and I will give you... I love that! ...I will give you a demonstration of how it sounds

06:40 And so of course I what it would sound like I walk up to the tour guide and say could you please Remove it a little bit from your mind. Just move you can change volume change volumes now The problem is you're over modulating a little bit I had to teach a couple of people how it works. You can't use the law, you see people do this at speaking events they're dicking with their lav and they're moving it around and then it falls off so they decide to grab it hold in front of their mouth and talk into as though like a regular microphone when its not that's exactly what every tour guide I've seen was doing this and they hold up between there finger and forefinger and thumb like...

07:33 Why don't they just give him a stick microphone? That would make everything good. I mean, apparently they don't want everything to be good here It's truly flabbergasting The level of turismo that has taken hold in this town Of course i dont know much about it But the streets are just... Right dead center in the middle There is nothing else here! There is nothing else to do I mean, you are either in the center or you're not in the center. And if you're not in the center then there's nothing there! And please, I want to make clear that you know to see Michelangelo's work and to see some of the unfinished work that they found in his atelier. It is stunningly beautiful! Even with the distorted tour guide sound...I learned a lot about Michelangelo and really about the Renaissance and what David signifies. That was very interesting

08:36 But all the retarded morons who apparently are only here for gelato and Abercrombie & Fitch, it's killing me man. It's killing me! And the selfie sticks which of course are being sold by migrants that's what they're doing here. Oh there is your migrant problem. Oh yeah oh yeah They sell selfie sticks and USB dongle...USB chargers And the new thing apparently this year is, and Lord knows why you'd come to Florence and buy one of these. It's like a blob and you throw the blob on the ground that it makes a noise like... And then it splats out like a piece of goo and then it reassembles itself You know? That's one of those novelty things that you would find in the mall typically That's what being sold here We went to the Ponte Vecchio A very famous bridge Hey!

09:30 Yes, you have to bring me one of those back. No I said you gotta bring me something back You just described the product I want It's made in China. Well, I don't see him here! When you go to China...I should mention this as an aside when you go to China and your roaming around You'll see all these vendors of junk like this And a lot of it that you've never seen before and you're going wow this would sell like hotcakes anyplace else. It's pathetic. I think we stumbled on one of them. But just you can see the people, the tourists They are just not present they are not looking

10:12 at anything, they are looking through their screens and it's like the only thing that appears important is to say here I am with my group and we're in front of something. Click let's go take a look make sure everybody looked good on...I didn't look so good okay let's do it over again there is no appreciation this is this is I'm telling you John retard central its humanity is lost I'm very very disturbed by it You know, people have been bitching about the same topic only with different stylistic things to bitch about. Your stuff is all new to me and but I think there's always been the kiss with these tourists Probably but it's so busy is just so...

10:56 A couple of good things. We left Rome, we went from Rome and we took the high speed train which is reasonably high speed. It's about 250 kilometers an hour which is faster than anything that we have in the States I think I think it was about 100 and 150. Well, but I don't know where this beside the point yeah and that's a painless totally painless ride lot of fun you get out here now you the cabs can come all the way down into the city center but no other cars are allowed and we got it at you know the Airbnb is have to say it's a beautiful Airbnb all the romance everything you want is here except does not really

11:36 Any restaurant you go to, it's so different compared to Rome. You turn a corner there is something new. Rome is for more than just ruins and stuff. There's government there, all kinds of things that keep the country running for whatever that takes But here it's just there is the dome, that is where David is and here is the shopping. Oh and its tax free of course! You know what? It like being in a huge airport tax-free shopping center That's what Florence has become. People like buying stuff And the selfie sticks I just don't understand...I thought that was over. You are wrong Very wrong very very wrong

12:30 So anyway, we did see all the sites. We didn't go to the top of the dome I mean it's way too warm here. I think it's 95-96 degrees Fahrenheit so you don't want to be standing in line skip the line or not You don't want to stand anywhere for long and just fry And expensive! It is very expensive Well how expensive is it? You're talking about the dome itself or just the whole place? Just the whole place. Just food, just buying anything. Of course it is all those tourists! Right but you want Florence to be more than a big tourist trap and I'm sorry it kind of isn't

13:15 Go in November. Okay, well it didn't work out that way for us now on the other hand driving out to where Willow lives and you know she or her husband cooked a typical Florence or Florentine dinner outside you know the fire we had the hills of Tuscany all around us I mean that was fantastic really really amazingly beautiful Which is one of the reasons we were here to celebrate Tina's birthday, and we had a really good time. Good Yeah yeah And then tomorrow we pack up and take off for Nice

13:56 which presents its own little issues. I've looked at a million different ways to try and get from here to Nice, but if you want to do it by train... You can go up to the border pretty much to Genoa and then you have to get in- It'll take about 18 hours so that's a non starter. Well why don't i just drive? That should be easy! Yeah the European Union hasn't quite figured out how to do one way car rentals yet So we could rent a car for one day for 3,000 euros As long as I drop it off if i drop it off anywhere in france. Yeah You can't just get a one-way rental and drop it off at the same company's rental office in a different country so that's a non-starter um then there's one sucks Then there's one uh

14:44 That's one. Can you get one of those migrant boats after they drop the people off to take the crossings? I actually did look into ferry crossings, but that also takes eight hours and just it's crazy so the quickest way which only hour-and-a-half flight on Mistral Airlines oh yeah wait for it then they have regulations about how we have regulations for baggage In the States we have it, it's 50 pounds. That's about 22 kilos not here though no 15 kilos is the weight you can have You can take as many bags as you want to pay for but they can't be over 15 kilos So we had to buy another suitcase and transfer stuff over It's a little nightmarish in that regard Well that stinks I mean were having a good time Just another little story so im in London or one of these airports in Europe

15:40 And I had, because they have a weight limit that's a little different than the United States. I think it's typically 44 pounds or less and so i got my bag and I stick it on the thing in this 48 pounds or 40 46 maybe no service for you And the guy says, no no you can't take this on. He says this bag is not good I said hold on a second and so i open the bag Take my laptop out put it under my arm put the bag back on Good to go! he says okay good to go I take the bag off the thing Put the laptop back in and it gets put on Off it goes I know exactly but there's a difference when we have 22 kilos which were a little bit under But were not 15 kilos So if you wanna buy a bag

16:27 It's just it's very odd, very very odd the way some things are run here. So again if you want to come to Florence I highly recommend that it is beautiful to see but two days and you've had a two days is more than enough more than enough You can kind of see everything you need to see Sounds good Yes I have no trips planned So I do have some Euro news, obviously been trolling a little bit of the... Again we've not seen CNN or Fox or anything like this since we landed. Well what do you know about the Donald Trump Jr fiasco which has taken over the news? Every single newscast starts and ends with Donald Trump Jr.? Yes yes. And i will say- Well let me tell you what I know

17:17 Because I do have a few clips that I picked up that I thought were interesting from the outsider's perspective of what I kind of got here. What I want, yeah? This is maybe why you're hearing a little bit extra frustration in my voice because really the only connection we have with what's going on in other news is The Face Bag and it has gotten to... Now there are people who... You know too Aaron Bursell, Chris Breschiers, I'll just mention a couple names you know And they are consistently, incessantly talking about Diaper Don, Fredo. They're all going to jail. They're unbelievable he incriminated himself and these are intelligent people John we know these guys they're intelligent people they have gone completely off the deep end and it's depressing me I have to say i am really really really depressed

18:15 In fact, I have a jingle for it. Signs of depression... Exactly It is-I cannot believe the vile, bigoted fat shaming just everything is just and they seem so full of glee whereas you know what? I mean look at whatever's going on I think I have kind of handle on what happened

18:52 What is wrong with you? Do you really think that someone's going to jail over this or what is wrong with you people Absolutely, they're on their way to the slammer as we speak. It is it is full-on retard full-on Yeah, it's pretty bad. But let's get a handle on first before you give us your side of the story. Let's at least give you what's going on over here so you can kind of balance it great and I want to play...I have two..two...I don't really have a lot of clips about Don Jr., but I do have the setup clips that referred to

19:30 Don Jr. CBS, CBS stuff? Yeah I want to mention something on the CBS one which is why am i not finding it on my list? I see Don Junior's CBS background no background yeah the problem yeah the reason I said that what does that don't even see that on my list what the hell's the problem oh I see what happened Oh that's nice um hey I printed out the same clip number clips 1 Eclipse two are the same on what is this? What are you doing, man. I do see elephant sex again I've been waiting three weeks for that clip Yeah, okay let's go with it now you got to done junior clips in front of you I do now The CBS one they go and I've got two right from the beginning I get the whole thing here except when they do the follow-up but

20:23 Right from the beginning, they never tell you. It's as if everybody in the entire world knows what they're talking about. They don't actually give any background There's no, it just straight into the story and I found it was like wow this is like you know this is. It's like before we launch into that and this is CBS but let me just give you from my perspective how this took place here then by the way no one really is talking about this year you know Willow and everything yeah that was like whatever they don't really follow it. I kept reading again I read The Diaper Don Fredo is Fredo. Is that a Lord of the Rings reference or something? I'm supposed to understand it's a reference now The Fredo references are and if this was a popular thing on Twitter for about a day This is a reference to the this dumb brother of Corleone in the Godfather 2 Oh, yeah, oh god father Okay But can you believe that Aaron Bursell and Chris Breshears are doing this just to name-check them again

21:26 Yeah, exactly. I can believe anybody! So i had to go and read in reverse order these three New York Times articles to understand what they were talking about and even reading them and rereading them like What, so? I mean... Okay but this is not illegal. I just don't understand why they think that this it. You know smoke meet gun! Really what are you talking about?! So thats all I know. Hello where'd you go? I cannot continue the show unless I get these clips.

22:09 printed out because I have two pages of the same clip so i don't know what clips I have because they haven't set up. Let's start with the CBS backgrounder which assumes that you know everything President Trump is heading to Paris tonight after tweeting that the White House is functioning perfectly He also said he has little time to watch television, but he apparently saw his son on Fox last night. The president said Don Jr did a good job in the interview and was quote open transparent and innocent We begin tonight with Major Garrett at the White House

22:46 In retrospect, I probably would have done things a little differently. Donald Trump Jr told Fox News he now realizes his meeting with the Russian government lawyer looks bad but still wishes it had produced the promised damaging information on Hillary Clinton. It was literally just wasted 20 minutes which is a shame. In an interview today with Reuters President Trump defended his son saying quote, I think many people would have held that meeting The president also said he only learned of it a couple of days ago. The June 2016 meeting was arranged by music promoter Rob Goldstone on behalf of a Russian pop star whose father is a wealthy oligarch with ties to Vladimir Putin In video uncovered today by CNN, Mr Trump can be seen with all three men in Las Vegas in 2013 Yeah this... okay that's their background? That's their background or like everyone should know what's going on Okay

23:43 Yeah, exactly. This is why I had trouble understanding it there was... what is going on? I had to really focus on it A little more detail can be found here in the PBS report Okay, you don't want to do number two for a secret? Oh no I'm sorry that's right. I don't have the clips in front of me It's okay i'll do number two when you go bring your clips An outside White House advisor described the revelations about Trump Jr.'s meeting as quote very bad A category 5 hurricane Today The president remained out of public view for the third consecutive day and pushed back on Twitter against reports He was enraged by television news stories on the investigation But the revelations keep coming

24:23 CBS News has learned that US intelligence picked up electronic intercepts of Russian officials discussing presidential candidates, including Mr. Trump as far back as mid-2015 What? Although a source familiar with the intelligence says it was not until the spring 2016 that the conversation pivoted to helping Mr. Trump's campaign Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation as well as those of two congressional committees are also looking into whether the Trump campaign's digital operation in any way coordinated with Russians to target voters with fake news stories That operation was overseen by the president's son-in-law, Jared Kushner. California Democrat Adam Schiff on CBS this morning... I'm not saying that that is what took place but the Russians used a whole variety of methods to try and influence no only our elections but elections in Europe

25:15 And if there was a data analytical component to this in which there was some level of coordination that we need to look into. The Senate Judiciary Committee will call former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort who attended the Russian meeting with Trump Jr., to testify CBS News has confirmed Manafort provided some information to Congress about that meeting also attended by Kushner in recent weeks And there's absolutely no other setup to these clips. That's exactly, that is how the piece aired? Yes! Like we understand what's going on? Apparently you must have

25:52 That's pretty good. I know it sounds ridiculous, but what you heard was the beginning of the show Then he mentioned that Trumps going to Paris and he cut into the Donald she saw his son on TV And then he went on to whatever it was and then what you've heard there is The second part of that whole thing there's nothing that I left out Wow Yeah, this is... okay. So what I'm hearing is what I'm reading is connect the dots! Finally we can connect the dots but they're connecting dots from wiretapping to collusion to it's... What happened? This is

26:35 Mass hysteria what I'm seeing here and-and, and I'm really outside of the bubble here. I mean, I really am outside of the bubble And all I see is mass mass mass hysteria over... seemingly nothing Ehh..I guess it looks bad You know actually can I just interject with a quick clip before we go to PBS because i got one clip Yeah play! Yeah, uh Charles Krauthammer as you know respect the guy a lot Uh I got to keep my eye on him. Tina likes him a little too much and but he was very negative about what Don jr did and so that got my attention because he's typically a big supporter well, I love it are the fatal words

27:18 of the defense of the Trump administration for the last six months, which I supported was there doesn't appear to be a they're-there. This is...I was saying this is a cover up in search of a crime There wasn't any evidence of collusion There were lots of coincidences Lots of meetings Lot's of non disclosures But that's all circumstantial There was nothing to show that the Trump administration Was aware or supporting the Russian interference in our elections. And this just showed up today in black and white, released by Don Jr himself! This is not released in the anti-Trump media So you see it in black and white This is not to say that collusion is a crime It never was But it is to say that denial of collusion Is very weak right now because it looks as if

28:16 I don't know if there's any other explanation. Don Jr was receptive, it is a hell of a defense to say that your collusion was incompetent and that it didn't work out the fact is this isn't just opposition research this is not somebody coming out of the woodwork in Indiana with a story about Clinton. Easy on Indiana This is a foreign power and not just any foreign power an adversary foreign power A foreign power that invades our allies in Georgia, in Ukraine Uh uh uh uh hold on a second That's where Krauthammer lost me I'm sorry Russia did not invade Georgia thats a lie Buzzes are airplanes Just last week at the UN it nixed any attempt to get sanctions increased on North Korea

29:06 that supports a genocidal regime in Syria. This is our most serious adversary one could argue, in the world and to receive information from them but here's the deal They denied they did this. They agreed with the critics, today's critics that this is a bad thing to do and they were saying for six months we didn't do it there was no evidence that we did it how could you even imagine that we did it? Now they're saying oh yeah but we did it but it wasn't so bad and we were incompetent at it That's not a very good defense So I totally understand what Krauthammer is saying he's saying

29:43 that they've all said there was no collusion, we weren't as bad as the other guys. But they were just as willing to get any dirt they could What's unclear to me though is this was a meeting and some lawyer woman she said you know I have some dirt on Hillary Clinton taking illegal finances from Russia...I think he'd take that meeting You know, that's what Trump himself said. Right? Except he take the meeting and then if I understand properly the discrepancy here is if they had heard about a crime that had taken place then they should have reported that or at least said hey we had this meeting about X Y & Z

30:30 But there but the Trump campaign camp whatever is saying because there was nothing. There was no finance rules broken They it was a 20-minute meeting and meh, whatever and then they just left it for what it is Is that what happened? Well, well the meeting was supposed to be it turned out to be this woman represents the one of the sanctioned, uh... the twenty-one of the 2012 sanctioned oligarchs. And this is from the McGinskey Act? Yeah whatever yes we follow that Yeah, we followed it very well. Closely. We just don't know what it's called anymore but we followed it. They still call that in these reports and she... Well here this is a little backgrounder This is the clip of the Russian lawyer backgrounder one. Alright Natalia Veselnitskaya says she didn't have any dirt on Hillary Clinton The Russian government says they don't even know who she is

31:29 Like most things Kremlin, there's more to that story. Veselnitskaya who speaks no English represents a wealthy Kremlin connected family in Moscow the Katsevs. They've lobbied hard to overturn US sanctions against Russian officials accused of money laundering in what is known as the Magnitsky Act The 2012 law enraged Russian President Vladimir Putin so much that he banned Americans from adopting Russian children. She's like the consigliere of a very prominent Russian family, she has a wide range of tasks

32:05 She's not just a lawyer, as she has been described. She is an operator." Hedge fund manager Bill Browder pushed for the sanctions and calls her a formidable adversary. He says she wouldn't have been in the U.S. lobbying to overturn Magnitsky without the Kremlin's blessing They don't give out business cards from the Kremlin saying you're a Kremlin lawyer, go to Washington and do this. After Veselnitskaya's meeting with Donald Trump Jr last June she went to Washington organized a screening of an anti-Magnitsky film at the museum And was in the first row at a congressional hearing on US policy toward Russia Last year she also took on former U.S attorney Preet Bharara

32:42 who had accused Denis Katsiev of that Kremlin-connected family of money laundering. The case was settled after Barara was fired by President Trump in court documents Veselnitskaya says she's argued and won more than 300 cases and that her clients include large state owned and private corporations She is a nonpartisan advocate for a bunch of crooks back in the Russian government Crooks, man. Crooks! But you know this is CBS again and I want to point something out before we go on and play part two they bring this guy in as his expert of a hedge fund guy that this is CBS again slanting the story by just in this case in a very awkward way by using Bill Browder

33:28 Bill Browder, who I think is a straight shooter for the most part but he's not a hedge fund manager anymore. He's the guy if you remember he's the guy who was involved there's a lot of reports about him and he wrote a couple of books and they go to billbrowder.com and you can see where he's coming from And when you see where he's coming from with his books...He is a Putin hater Because he tried to do a hedge fund deal with a bunch of Russians and got his lawyer killed. He got a bunch of other people tortured, he got run out of the country and I think he actually lost all his money. Okay so he has an axe to grind? Right! He has a grudge. And so they're using him as a source in this news story...I think that's really poor journalism personally but CBS does this constantly and let's play part two of that

34:19 And people should go to billbrader.com, it's probably the book I'm... In fact he even has a Russian version of this book that he wrote and he gives it away on PDF in Russian! That's how pissed he is can you imagine? The Justice Department settled that money laundering case against Veselnitskaya client four months after Mr Trump came into office today House Democrats sent a letter asking the Attorney General if that Kremlin connected client got any special treatment Anthony I thought that was pretty fishy. People should be talking about that, but they're not. They're talking about poor Don Jr., who i might add in an MSNBC which I was scoping for a lot of these clips uh Lawrence O'Donnell had...I'd say for half the show he had because it was from the New York Post he felt he was obliged to do this

35:11 He had on the screen, he's sitting there kind of over to the left or over to the right as you view him. And where they would normally be like a big plugged in like a screen or where they put graphics or all this other stuff that there is room for it, right? Right! It just had New York Post logo and then it said Donald Trump Jr. Is an idiot He may be. I don't know. There's a lot of jokes going around like, well we thought Eric was the dumb one. So again, I only have three clips but this is just stuff that from outside an American English speaker just picked up stuff saying oh this is interesting now can at least hear both sides of what's going on and to me the most interesting conversations was between

36:03 Evan McMillan, you recall he is the CIA guy who they threw in at the last minute to run as a candidate for Utah. Remember that guy? Oh, right. The CIA guy... Right they thought they were gonna upset the whole election with this guy I don't- Yeah It was something very fishy about him Yeah he's a CIA guy what do you mean? Of course it's fishy All of sudden he was there and had money and he is running like okay And this retired army colonel who i believe also is ex-CIA somehow So they're on C- I think its CNN And their arguing Before wait before you go on

36:43 Don't have the clip because I try accidentally erased the whole thing, but that our favorites way to go Richard Nixon The favorite CIA guy bear yeah Yeah, I just forgot about it cause getting other clubs. So I got to go back and clip that little bear thing of Bob Bear. Is he still alive? Bob there? Yeah. He lives up in Aspen. I haven't seen a notorious, I know he doesn't come on a lot but he came on and he was on Rachel Maddow and he along with the guy running for vice president with Hillary, what's his name? Tim Kaine. Tim Kaine first says, oh this is treason! Wait a minute- Bob Bair the CIA guy He agreed? Yes Treason can only be if you're at war with someone can't it

37:34 Well, there's a very specific clause in the Constitution that in fact Dershowitz keeps coming and saying hey you guys want to read this what treason is because no this isn't even close to treason. Dershowitz, Dershowitz is gonna get in trouble. He's not appeasing his left-wing masters No he's not Alright, so these two guys are going at it. This was helpful to me because I was able to understand the disconnect between what possibly or what I guess according to a published email just stepping back for second this is what got me right off the bat people that on the face bag people i have known for decades decades I tell you are convinced

38:26 that Donald Trump Jr. is so dumb that he incriminated himself, whereas Occam's Razor kind of would say if you publish all this stuff and you're saying here's what happened You don't you think that these guys with someone would check it out and say hey if I publish this will just get me in trouble But no The the conviction what I see here in Florence Italy the conviction is that guy is such an idiot That he incriminated himself like that doesn't seem very long There's no way that he would have put that out without talking to a lawyer first. Do you think so? Here are these two guys they're going at it, and What it boils down to is

39:06 the interpretation of what you need to report. And so I guess you need to... Maybe you can give me some background before we play the clip? Who needs to report what, on what forms for what reason? Can you please help me because that seems to be a big part of this Lawrence O'Donnell had one of these sheets in front of him that he could, with the idiot thing in the back. And it showed a box you're supposed to check if you had any meetings whatsoever with any foreign contacts during an election cycle. Stop right there! Foreign contacts? You mean just like I was talking to Gene... Like this meeting. Like I was talking to Sir Gene? He's a Russian national? If you were running for office and Sir Gene had a meeting with you probably should have reported unless he is American

39:54 I don't know. I bet an Ovi's American well, then you probably should just report him anyway But the point is hey you haven't donated gene. I'm reporting you The point is there was some paperwork that was not properly filed as what this amounts to And they, the way I see it, the ways Don Jr. explains and he did this on that Sean Hannity show He says... He goes to this phony meeting and says we had wasted 20 minutes of our time They keep pulling that clip on all the news outlets Yeah And it was like.. We didn't think much about it That was the end of it It was just a stupid meeting that didn't go anywhere So in the process of filing out paperwork Even though I don't ever thought it was a campaign

40:39 primary campaign guy that would make a difference one way or the other, but everyone says he is now. So yeah there's paperwork to go through. Okay so I'm going to play this clip and i learned a couple of things one is the term oppo research oppo research yeah oppo oppo research which is opposition researcher which is what everybody does for everybody against the other team you try and find dirt on them and so this was an oppo research fact-finding mission And I understand where Krauthammer's coming from, saying well you know to say that you guys were clean and you weren't trying to get any dirt on Hillary is a lie. That is true! That is the egg on the face that's what it is

41:19 But I don't see where it's illegal or criminal, etc. But now we have a guy CIA guy who ran for president We have an ex-army guy who calls himself a CIA operative and they're arguing about this very topic Something we all often have are something called walk ins out of every 10 walk-in one turns out to be correct. So this is the ex Army guy who was saying you know, you get walk in so you take the meeting and find out what's going on? The fact that all this information was shared behind the scenes it's no big deal You want to have that come in and for two reasons let me very clear about this This is a campaign you want all information from all sources even foreign if its offered Then why not report it

42:01 Let me finish my answer. And the second thing is if it's something that is blackmailable, it goes both ways. If Hillary Clinton was subject to blackmail you want to know that so again let me be clear...if that level is achieved, that is say the information actually is what it is advertised to be then of course its going to be shared otherwise it's but one more piece a fluff in on number events going on. You have to understand I think you do during a campaign there are thousands of things going on all the time. So something to rise past the kind of daily just buzz, you have to have something significant so I agree with Mr McMullen about the fact that this meeting should've been had what i'm disagreeing with him on is a fact that it wasn't achieved

42:45 wasn't what it was advertised to be and therefore, it was killed instantly. And I don't think it went any further than that." When you're running a presidential campaign in the United States and a foreign adversary or a representative of a foreign adversary comes to you and says we are trying to help you win. That was not what the meeting was about. Please, oh my god propaganda! Drop the propaganda that's not what the meeting is about it isn't that is not what was in the email I want to remind you these are two intelligence officials intelligence guys who are arguing

43:28 about what is right or wrong, or what is legal or not legal. And they're both ill really." That's not what was in the email you just talked about. So do you deny that? The White House doesn't even deny it but you do! I'm denying the fact that there was any direct saying that foreign power is coming forward If you look at what was said, it said there was information available potentially from a foreign source. That's what I'm saying, it was not confirmed that this was from the Russian government that's what you're trying to stipulate Donald Trump Jr. was informed and that the Russian government was trying to help the campaign and they had an emissary who was offering compromising information on Hillary Clinton

44:07 And they took the meeting and didn't report it. They didn't report it! Stop, what was the reporting requirement? And then after that they changed the Republican platform Donald Trump tweets later that day encouraging about the 33 thousand new males. You're making stuff up. Okay turn off And let's just keep it simple. On Saturday, why would Donald Trump Jr say I didn't know what it was? It was a meeting about orphans and today is a completely different story. Wow! Okay so now lemme just understand this bit and again I'm just the dumb American here in Florence with my selfie stick So because the meeting was sold as we have some important information... Sorry

44:52 Dirt. Dirt, but specifically that the Clinton campaign was taking illegal foreign donations which is a federal election committee commission violation that I think is a serious one that because they were going after that, they therefore were colluding or trying to collude with Russia. That is the concept here but because the meeting was about something completely different they said, well we don't have to screw it dumb meeting move on what they should've reported but it's not even about the report. No no I know their argument is...I'll give it to you okay It seems as if Trump side says oh yeah we had this stupid meeting and it was a waste of time

45:36 And we didn't, at the time we didn't think to report it. Manafort was there Don Jr. was there, and so was Jared. Those were the three supposedly that were at least this meeting. And they say what it was this waste of time? And they went off and had coffee or went to dinner who knows what they did but But they never thought that this was reportable. So they didn't report it but he was tracked by somebody and got busted out and then they have... I got it! Okay, but what they're saying here, then this is back to Krauthammer's point Is to say that they never, never tried to collude with Russia is a lie because they totally tried to collude with getting information about the Clinton campaign's illegal financing. That's at issue. That's what I'm hearing. Is that right? Yes! That's exactly right. Okay good. How could he do that? It's not a different story. He-I think... I've read what his lawyer said. He talked about the atmospherics of the meeting who was in the meeting and what happened

46:30 about Donald Trump, Donald Trump Jr. himself has started on Saturday this was about orphans why is it so different today? Why change the story why wouldn't Jared Kushner have disclosed this meeting Why do we have five members of the campaign, meeting after meeting not disclosed? Just help me understand that. Again, do you understand what goes on in a campaign and all the meetings that happen? Do YOU understand what happens in a campaign?! I'm sorry this is not an open meeting! This is NOT what happens in campaigns sir. And you're doing tremendous disservice to American people suggesting otherwise. A tremendous disservice

47:10 I don't know what universe you live in. All information is intake during a campaign, they want to know what's going on especially if it's blackmailable. There was great concern Hillary Clinton, FBI and then you reported in every other way possible. So the fact that you didn't want to hear about that, that's fine. No sir okay Colonel we're gonna leave it there but to be clear just because you have a lot of meetings doesn't mean you don't disclose all of them That is your obligation! no its not

47:46 Yes, sir. It is no it's not so there's the issue yes Sir it Is you have to report every meeting every fart you smelled and he's saying? No But then wait for it because now we have the CIA gay guy from Utah telling us exactly why you need to report it There was no clearance involved If you have a security clearance, yes. Kushner did not have the clearance. It's an American duty! What's the matter with you? It was nothing to do with my video. It is... it is an American duty I see that I violated. There's no duty here. There is absolutely duty. Nothing now came up during investigation That's when it should come up during the investigation My goodness we've lost our way You've lost your way

48:27 All right, no America collectively has lost its way Wow that was actually quite good Yeah, but then these are high-level guys Yes, and they're arguing bigly According to Bob Barrett's treason, so there you go. Let's get to wrapping by doing the PBS. This is not the whole report this is just kind of the middle of it. I probably would have done things a little differently again this is before the Russia mania this is before they were building it up in the press for me this was opposition research This morning, Mr. Trump gave his eldest son a rave review He was open transparent and innocent this is the greatest witch hunt in political history I know that as confirmation hearing to be FBI director Christopher Wray was pressed on that point he had a different view of the investigations including special counsel Robert Mueller's probe than the man who nominated him I'm asking you as the future FBI director do you consider this endeavor a witch-hunt?

49:29 I did not consider Director Mueller to be on a witch hunt. Meanwhile, the president's legal team tried to distance their client from his namesake. The president wasn't aware of the meeting, did not participate in the meeting, did not attend the meeting and was only made aware of the emails. Actually, actually reading the email seeing the emails was yesterday when they were released." For Mr Trump, The Russia story has become a burden he cannot escape no matter how hard he tries every time it appears to be moving in a different direction another disclosure puts it right back front and center Today, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov seemed to sympathize. Today I turned on the TV again and all the Western channels are discussing only this. It is amazing how serious people can make a mountain when there might not even be a molehill. There's sure to be more discussion next week when the Senate Judiciary Committee wants former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort to testify about his role

50:28 For the PBS NewsHour, I'm John Yang. Later the president told Reuters that he only learned of Donald Trump Jr.'s meeting with a Russian lawyer a few days ago but he said quote I think many people would have held that meeting He also said that he asked Russian President Putin last week if he had meddled in the US election and that Putin said twice absolutely not I'm really happy that, um...that i wasn't in the US for this because I think I have a very outsiders take just on what's been going on. And I learned a couple of things This may be true or not That the-this lawyer woman that she apparently worked for the firm That was hired for OPPO research Uh they came up with this Steele report which is the you know hookers peeing on the Obama bed

51:20 Right. For Trump and Russia, is that something we know for sure? We have not seen that piece of information go by the desk Okay, which would mean that this might have been a setup. But okay... Now the other piece of it- Yeah I like the idea of it being a set up because this whole thing is quite fishy. Makes sense. The other thing I learned which I had to go and look up which obviously works very poorly and comes across as deflection but it does give you a sense of how oppo research works I got this from two different sources. The first one is now,

51:58 Allison Camarota from CNN who has become quite the personality in going up against people with Sebastian Gorka. So, Sebastian Gorka is going to deflect this and then bring up the Clinton Ukraine oppo meeting in the Ukraine embassy. Was it a good idea for Don Jr. to meet with this Russian lawyer? Was it a good idea for the DNC to send its operatives to the Ukrainian embassy? I'm not sure that answers my question. No, if there's a meeting that was wholly appropriate but which leds to nothing let's compare that to the DNC sending its people to the Ukrainian embassy to coordinate oppo attacks against our candidate. I am a little sick of this word too, this oppo.

52:48 If you want to see it just showed up. It's just really just showed up You're gonna be stuck with its gonna go away fast cuz ugly all right collusion. It's in the DNC Just let me follow your line of logic, and you're saying it's inappropriate for the Democrats to meet with a Foreign country Ukraine, but it's not inappropriate for your campaign for Donald Trump to meet with the Russians Who did this woman work for at the time do you know well? I mean this is what investigators are on my mind. What is the answer who oh

53:23 who what is her connection to the Kremlin? Yes, tell me. There was no connection she was a private lawyer who had an interest with regards to the Russian adoption program and used a pretext to get a meeting with the campaign which which the campaign representatives almost immediately realized was not done in good faith that she had another agenda That's right but they wanted... What's funny Mr Gorka is that they wanted the original agenda They wanted the dirt. The Democrats the DNC did they try to get oppo research from the Ukrainians? They did it in their embassy talk to a foreign two four nationals by what you told me earlier regarding sir, Jean That would be to say you would have to report that me. I don't know if they reported that meeting. I have no idea I don't know if they disclosed any of that but that's the parallel he's drawing You want to look at a real story? That's the story Oh my goodness

54:31 My gosh, if you want to look at a real story the 126 leaks of national security importance in the first 125 days. This deflection tactic is not working No I don't like it at all but he does come up with something really funny here Can i stop him for one more second? Of course There's another thing that he's doing wrong which is using his shotgun approach Which is he's not targeting his opposition, his deflection. He's saying blah blah blah and this then there's this and Georgia and then there's Ukraine and then there's this and then there's 126 and there's a email survey. Yeah dumb, dumb, dumb. It's dumb it's very good. It's no good it's poor but he does come up with a funny line that's what that's really the reason for the clip. Did the president son Don Jr

55:16 not only not disclose it, but didn't actually use the right story when first asked about it. He claimed that the meeting was about adoption... Again! Again they're in this whole thing you know he lied he lied because he said I was about this But that wasn't what the real story was and he's not alone. I mean let me just pull up this graphic for you of the seven people connected to the Trump campaign somehow Michael Flynn, Jeff Sessions, Jared Kushner Paul Manafort Don Jr., Carter Page, J.D. Gordon none of them adequately disclosed their meetings with Russians until the press found out about it. What's going on? Nothing, you heard their statements. You heard Don Jr.'s statement that told you everything you need to know He is not even a member of the administration I mean this is shocking thing again The amount of time you spend in desperation on topic that has plummeted you to 13th place in viewership ranking across America More people watch Nick at night cartoons than CNN today

56:19 You know I hate this because it's total horse crap, but it is funny and he doubles down. Our ratings are doing just fine if you want to go there. Our ratings are doing just fine. What rating represent is that people are interested in this. And our ratings reflect that Americans are interested in this. That hot crap! It made me laugh more people are more interested than watching cartoons then watching you. I thought it was funny Well that's generally true with the public Now, then my final clip here will be with the Cuomo kid and some Trump attorney about this. And it's a talking point. It is a total talking point they've agreed to talk about this. They have agreed to continuously bring up Ukraine. Why? Because you don't let Russia interfere in an election! You know that if he came to you would say don't take the meeting Donald Jr has said as much

57:14 Republican supporters have said as much. Donald Jr was very direct last night when he was on Sean Hattie's broadcast talking about that, but I want to ask you this question also, Chris, or just put it out there. Please. You know political campaigns well. You come from a long heritage of families in political campaigns. You know what happens at the Hita campaign—there are a lot of meetings—the Ukrainian government was giving information to the DNC and Hillary Clinton's people on who? Donald Trump. So we're acting as if this doesn't happen like it happened in the back of... Let's look at it very quickly, Ukraine is not Russia okay you can get oppo research from whoever you want but if you solicit

57:51 If you solicit information from a foreign government, let alone a hostile one, you could be in trouble with the FEC. But again I don't want to talk about legality that's not my place if you don't think it was inappropriate to take this meeting, not only are you disagreeing with Donald Jr., but I think that we have different ethical standards. I'll put you on the Gorka side and I'm on the other side. No no no, Donald Trump Jr said in retrospect he would've handled things differently which i think is the right thing to say and that point is therefore close. But I want to just finish up with this You just said if it's the Ukrainians its okay If it's Russians it's not

58:26 That's not the law. And you know that and I believe it. No, no, no! I'm saying Ukraine is NOT Russia. I think they would be analyzed differently in terms of potential threat to the process This is the idiocy This is where- this is where the idiocy comes from. This Russia hate... You can hate Russia all you want but they're not our enemy yet We don't we're not at war with them yet Except in people's minds That's what it that's that's what this is about people have been completely brainwashed. Yeah, Russia's bad Totally now a couple of things before I want to get to my Rachel Maddow clips damn because she of course is just Beaming she sees glowing so I'm so happy. I haven't been able to watch the

59:19 I don't know how much longer i can do this show. People are too retarded, I just can't handle it We have our no agenda army that is fine Okay thank goodness Let me get to... there's a clip here I have Soros meddling in elections Oh yeah this is a big deal This I've heard about over here This is news Alright they want me play that clip? Yeah, number one. Although Israel's ambassador to Hungary initially criticized that campaign Tel Aviv quickly released a clarification condemning the actions of Soros both in Hungary and in Israel

1:00:00 We discuss the situations in both countries with an Israeli activist. Soros is very hostile towards Israel, and here was a kind of awkward situation in Hungary because what Soros did he supported all kinds of what we call orange revolutions which on surface were very peaceful but at the end of the day we saw this blood spilled in Ukraine blood spilled in Belize and many other places where Soros put his fingers. As you know now, there is a huge campaign in the United States that Russia meddled in the US elections I don't understand what they're talking about The United States government invested money in undermining Israeli Prime Minister during the campaign They do it openly! They interfere, they meddle and then they accuse others of doing it This is kind of hypocrisy which needs to be stopped

1:00:57 We agree with the government of Hungary when they want to say, stop. Stop! Yeah this is so this is the news I'm seeing here everywhere we're seeing video and photos of Hungary with huge Soros posters plastered everywhere like this guy's destroying Hungary. Yes. Stop Soros. Stop Soros. You know in the subways everyone has one poster. Play you can play the ISO stop-stop it might be find that useful It's always useful. Stop stop Yes, I think that's very useful that should be my ring so you So you may want to play now Soros meddling in elections too

1:01:38 And Soros' alleged meddling is also becoming a concern in the United States. Back in March this year, several Republican senators attempted to launch a probe into where taxpayers money ends up after being sent to George Soros's NGOs but the initiative was rejected despite a collective letter sent to the Secretary of State Rex Tillerson Now Hungary is not the only European country to openly denounce the activities of George Soros. The Polish Prime Minister has alleged that Soros has violated the Polish Constitution, while a former Macedonian leader said Soros using his NGOs has been meddling all across the world. We spoke to an international affairs commentator who supports those views

1:02:23 Complaints about George Soros are entirely justified, because we see in his behavior somebody who has got a will to power. And if he doesn't like the results of a democratic election he will do his best to topple for is transparency, but everything he does is veiled in secrecy. He talks about democracy but he seeks to overthrow democratically elected governments just because he doesn't like them this is a kind of megalomania on James Bond villain scale and it really should be stopped." And here's what I'm hearing over here that Hungary is anti-semitic by going after Soros for some reason? Sure! This is their anti-semitic and

1:03:33 In addition, I don't know if you remember on the show and we talked about... Even though Soros was a Nazi collaborator. Yeah he put Jews on the train by his own admission. By his own admission! He helped his dad out and it was the happiest time of his life, he said. But yeah, but we talked about the G20 and the Schwarze Bloc which is German for Black Bloc is sponsored by Soros. And this is not some big secret, Black Lives Matter we know it's all the NGOs and there's all these little million here a million there and he's financing that so we mentioned this on the show, oh John I got attacked like triangulated on Twitter by South Jersey Antifa by Montana Antifa and they were attacking me on Twitter I just blocked them

1:04:32 But now we see what's really happening. You go after their money, you go after their Soros guy and then they come out and they're there after us now so I did tell them hey but you should you should go after our advertisers shut us down that'll really help. I did! Go after our advertisers? I did...I did. You just a big jerk All right, so now I'm coming to the conclusion that much of what we're hearing with Trump Jr. and the rest of it is Soros related and I believe that Soros has joined forces

1:05:08 with the neocons and elements within the CIA which was brought to the fore by your thing with the two CIA guys going after each other. Yes, exactly And it would make sense that the guy who ran for president in Utah would be somehow Soros connected because whose gonna fund that stupid campaign? Exactly So that's a Soros guy now that we see it. So you can say CIA, but you can also say Soros. Let's look at Rachel and what she is up to because this is what we're going to listen too as Rachel basking with those there are two of these clips. Rachel basking with new usage Wow! Whether there was Trump campaign involvement in what has otherwise been seen as a Russian operation so... What? Hold on hold on. What did she say

1:05:57 Says it was this whole thing's a Russian operation, the whole campaign. The whole Trump campaign is a Russian operation and then she does here play that Rachel Iso. She makes these noise. Whether there was Trump campaign involvement in what has otherwise been seen as a Russian operation so... Oh man she is irritating You mentioned that the lawyers involved in this, the people who are suing the Trump campaign here are freaking highfalutin high-powered people who know what they're doing. Freaking high... I have an ISO of that! Highfalutin high powered people who know what they're doing. Highfalutin high powered people who know there do? What is she talking about?! That's a descriptor for her

1:06:52 Highfalutin. For her audience, oh they're highfaluting that and they know what they're doing Oh Trump is dead in the water What exactly does high falutin mean? Highfalutin means they're hoity-toity. High power people who know what they are doing. Top of the game, highfalutin! They're like... The Jays! It's the Jays. I should mention that the lawyers involved in this, the people who are suing the Trump campaign here, are freaking high falutin, high powered people who know what they are doing so there is that and if you think about this

1:07:28 from the perspective of the Trump White House. Okay, you think about the perspective from like that their lawyers their legal team okay I'm open to it i'm listening to your Rachel people who are trying to defend the president and defend Trump campaign people on the Trump-Russia affair, just on that issue. They're now dealing with the special counsel Robert Mueller investigation. They're dealing with the Senate Judiciary Committee looking at possible obstruction of justice. They're looking at the Senate Intelligence Committee and the House Intelligence Committee both broadly looking at the question of the Russian attack and potential Trump campaign collusion in that attack. Now in addition to that they are looking at what may be a very high powered offensive through the court system through the federal courts.

1:08:12 She's on her way. Now she is going to go into the second part of this, which I have, which includes and you'll start to hear it a smear of the highest order. High flutin? It's a highfalutin smear. She starts to smear a guy and she does it, and she doesn't- she's not comfortable doing it! She's swallowing a lot, she's pausing and saying well I... And she's making jokes and she's doing all these different things but she is smearing the Donald Trump's lawyer and she pointed, her site has put up an article about this guy. And I looked at this article we could post it on our site is about you know it's kind of a smear It just a smear article by what a douchebag this guy is and he likes to get drunk at Christmas parties Wait wait wait Is he a douchebag? He's a lawyer Oh I'm sorry for putting my finger in your mouth You decide for yourself

1:09:12 All tied to that second prong of the Russian attack, that hack of the DNC where they stole that information and turned it back on the American people. Imagine trying to manage the defense... Okay, everything's a Russian attack now by her standards. Yeah, so it's a Russian attack and they stole the data from the DNC and turned it back on American people like they use as a weapon this This DNC hack did one thing it showed that Bernie was screwed. It didn't do anything else It didn't turn it back on the American public. It just said Bernie Sanders was screwed By Debbie Wasserman Schultz

1:09:51 Right? I mean, what else was there. Yeah that's what I remember right? I remember that right now it's not as if this is turning oh they did just an attack on the Americans no is an attack on their campaign against Bernie yeah but okay we'll do will take the whole thing let's keep going Rachel can you get to your smears go all tied to that second prong of the Russian attack that hack of the DNC where they stole that information and turned it back on the American people Imagine trying to manage the defense on all of those fronts. Sure! The guy who's supposedly the captain of that team managing the defense is Mark Kasowitz, who was the New York lawyer who had previously represented Donald Trump... Which is code for Jew I think when you say New York lawyers isn't that code John? Yeah now she mentioned it he's a Jew! ...represented Donald Trump and his business interests and his divorces

1:10:44 That's who Trump brought on, brought to Washington to run his Russia defense. Mark Kazowitz is not the only lawyer involved in that defense but he is supposed to be in charge of the team well today The New York Times reports that Mark Kazowitz it's considering resigning ProPublica has also today published an enormous... Oh, she missed an opportunity to say ginormous. I'm very disappointed. I know you know i was thinking about believe me i thought she was going to say ginormous but i think when she's gonna because this is an imp she doesn't want to lighten up the smear yes that enhances it drops it down to enormous now that other article by the way they headline and it doesn't seem to really indicate that he's about to quit that's a supposition

1:11:31 So she almost made that up. And even if he does stay on and he doesn't resign, they're raising the question as to whether he can continue to effectively run this defense. We have posted this ProPublica story on our website tonight. It's long, it's fascinating if you are interested in this side of the story I should tell you though... It's got a lot of disparaging personal information about Mr. Kazowitz, including stuff like about his lifestyle and even medical... Whoa whoa whoa! His lifestyle? Is he gay? Is it an alternative lifestyle? Is he transgendered? He's drunk apparently I don't know Even medical issues for him it's got a lot of details about-I kid you not-his behavior at office... I kid you not That comes from the Jack Parr show Yeah I kid you not If your'e at office Christmas parties

1:12:36 It is an unusual thing. There are some unnamed sources in the piece, but there are a lot of named sources as well including named sources who are people close to the president So I don't have that much appetite for like learning about the palace intrigue in terms of who likes who and whose on the outs? And you know what's happening among the people who work for the president on personal terms but between this New York Times reporting that the president's top Russia lawyer might resign and this incredibly well-reported litany of negative personal information that was just published in this big story about him at ProPublica with this very damning sourcing, whether or not you care about the personalities involved here? That is starting to become a factor we ought to pay attention too in terms of whether or not the President really is getting an adequate defense. Okay so what she's saying is

1:13:30 Lawyers are assholes. Well, she's not saying that she says this guy in particular is a smear it's a smear job This guy in particular can't handle these he's a loser but as beside the point the smearer there you can go read It for yourself You do anything you want what? She left out his ProPublica is a George Soros operation That was going to mention he funds a lot of that Yes, and he's in fact I would recommend anybody out there to look up George Soros ProPublica and take a look at what Google comes up with. And I didn't realize that Soros was behind the IRS learner thing about going after these conservative groups during the last election. He funded a lot of that and encouraged it and he's the one who leaked a bunch of data or ProPublica did

1:14:20 This guy is involved up to his neck in this whole thing. And while he's not being investigated, I'll go back to my original thesis He's got deep ties within the CIA which should be rooted out and has also done a deal with obviously the neocons. Jeez! That's pretty incredible We can wrap this up from my end because now I still have two more. Go ahead, go ahead Rachel please go for more Rachel please well Rachel did it, brought a guy on who's from the Wall Street Journal has some stuff to say and she brought him on and she tried to make him say stuff he didn't really say. And she's kind of reading between the lines but they do bring up something interesting which kinda cracks me up when you hear it I'm sure you'll find this amusing too This is Russians sending money into US elections first clip

1:15:18 Russian sending, well this is what the whole thing is about. You're reporting that intelligence officials were warned in 20- US intelligence officials were warned in the spring of 2016 by their European counterparts that Russian money might be flowing into the U.S presidential election in 2016 What can you tell us about that? Yeah, Clinton Right, I think this is a really important point in the narrative because of course it sort of falls after the point before Donald Trump has clinched the nomination but it really is one of the first signals as its been described to us where intelligence services are beginning to think wait a minute there's some kind of Russian interference potentially going on.

1:15:57 It is still not clear to people I've talked to who are close to the investigation exactly what the nature of this was. Was it Russian government money somehow being funneled into a campaign? Was it being laundered? These are questions that investigators are still struggling with right now, but it was enough that European intelligence services flagged this to the U.S. intelligence community and said, we think there's reason to believe that Russian funds are finding their way into your elections process. And it seems like this is one of those moments where the signals really start to increase and intelligence officials become more alarmed at that point in what they're seeing that ultimately starts to build later into that summer into what we know now was the hack of the DNC—that was revealed in June. By the time you hit that timeframe in June 2016, it is really kind

1:16:45 It's an open secret at this point that the Russians are meddling in the elections. And some months later, the intelligence community of course would confirm that publicly on the record. So what I know—the only thing I know about Russian finance is that millions of dollars came into the Clinton Foundation from Russia which would be deemed a quid pro quo or a thank you very much or an attaboy for the uranium contracts. There's that. One of many elements, I'm sure. Yes the thank you for the uranium deal and let's not... Which we haven't explained on the show too much but it is just put it this way we meant much of the United States uranium supply is now owned by Russia thanks to Hillary. Well not just Hillary alone there were 8 million other people had to sign off on it they will everyone will be quick to say that but the actual money going into the Clinton Foundation that's traceable that's truthful

1:17:47 I'm embarrassed. Well, let's go now Rachel of course sees this totally different. Yeah Oh, oh gee sees it as a whole This whole thing is leaning right to Donald Trump being in bed with the Russians and this is terrible We'll say that that last point I don't want that. It's not in the headline, but it may end up actually being the most important thing about this story. Reports in spring of 2016 that European intelligence agencies were warning U.S. intelligence agencies about Russian money making its way into the U.S. presidential election. Spring of 2016 is sort of the wrapping-up of the primary process so we know who the general election candidates are going to be.

1:18:24 I don't know what we will eventually find out about that, but that detail reported for the first time tonight in The Wall Street Journal by Shane Harris. That if nothing else probably explains why there have been so many people signed up as lawyers on the Bob Mueller probe whose background is in international money laundering Well, I hope he doesn't dig too deep Rachel because he's going to find Podesta with shares in Russian companies. He's going to find all kinds of money. You know, I wonder about this. I mean, I know call me and these guys are all buddies the new guy they're bringing in is a buddy of All these guys that their pals like call me Mueller and this ray got a new guy Yeah And we got confirmed or it's getting good

1:19:12 He's getting confirmed as a shoo-in. I'm wondering though, if you're in that office and you worked under the different guys and we have to know about the Clintons... You'd think. And although Comey worked for them, you just wonder if they're thinking maybe that we can do this investigation not make a lot of noise about it actually go after the Clintons? Right. Well, so it's well. Well, no way you bring this up but this is how deep the shit show is going to go because here we have Congressman Steve King

1:19:52 Who is threatening exactly that? Let me be clear, that's where you think all this is headed. Where you think the questions about Russian collusion and whether or not Russia meddled... You would like to see it in terms of what Hillary Clinton

1:20:29 May have done you don't I there's anything to see with the current Trump White House. Is that what you're saying? I don't know whether there is or isn't I've not seen it yet But what I'm saying, is this that the Comey investigation now him picking these special counsel on top of it Yeah on its face appears to be collusion My goodness how will this end Well, I do want to do one little short clip. How will it end? Well, I don't know! It depends on the donations so...

1:21:06 I want to do this one little clip because i just want to remind people, this is the Trump screw up reminder clip. It's just a short little clip and then I wanna make a comment. The president said the Russia investigation was on his mind when he decided to fire FBI director James Comey Today the Senate Judiciary Committee opened hearings on Mr. Trump nominee to succeed Comey Okay This is, it's still, if it's not in Trumps crawlw it should be. This is that stupid interview he did with Lester Holt on NBC where he offhandedly made the comment after they fired Comey for

1:21:46 Poor poor job on the Hillary investigation. That's what all they that's what Sessions said That's when everybody who investigated isn't decided to fire him all said it was about the Hillary Email stuff and talking about it and screwing up the way the election went actually screwing over Hilary I don't know if he did on purpose or by accident you can't tell But then Trump goes on Lester Holtz and says, why? It was because of the Russians. This was so stupid! He just likes to talk too much he's a chatterbox I have now we didn't play these but i have a multi clip bit here from The Money Honey Maria Bartiromo with John Podesta from a couple weeks ago We didn't get to this but now it makes sense to play this

1:22:29 Okay. All right, this is... So Maria Bartiromo the original Money Honey CNBC and because of who she is it's very easy for her to get people like Podesta on and here's the first clip. You met with the Senate Intelligence panel as part of this investigation what can you tell us about that meeting? Well, they wanted to know essentially what had happened to me and what the effect of was on the campaign. The Russian interference in our democratic process and their probing what actually happened whether there was collusion then what are we going to do about it? They asked me not to get into specific the

1:23:30 both cover sort of for whatever had happened in the Trump White House and the Trump campaign, and particularly the Mike Flynn matter. But I think they're back on track with a bipartisan investigation so there are members from both sides and they asked probing questions about what had happened during the campaign Alright, now let's dig a little deeper. Do you find it odd that there has been so much attention on the Trump campaign and the Trump associates and potential collusion with Russians when in fact it is really the Democrats who have deeper and stronger ties to Russia? You know, you gotta respect this woman. You gotta respect her. She just goes hey isn't that crazy? That really if you guys have all the contacts with the Russians Isn't it crazy how the world is upside down I mean John i've gotta ask about your own situation Your ties to Russian entities You joined a board of small energy company in 2011 Uh oh Two months later A russian entity directly funded by the Kremlin Invested 35 million dollars in the company Uh Oh You were given 75 thousand shares In a Russian company

1:24:33 Which you failed to disclose when you became an Obama associate. Maria, that's not true I fully disclosed and was completely compliant with... And by the way, I divested before i went into the White House. But where did you divest it John? A lot of people feel like you divested into your adult children. I divested it consistent with the advice that i was given. Oh, great answer! Well this was the advice that was given by smart people so I divested to my children By the White House Counsel's Office Isn't that exactly what they accused Trump of? To divesting to his children Yeah And I was fully compliant and fully transparent

1:25:13 about what I had done. And so the fact that you're picking through my emails that were stolen by the Russians and released by WikiLeaks, creating a story which is not true is something we have to deal with through the law. So you weren't given 75 thousand shares of stock in a Russian company? You were not given 75 thousand shares- I didn't have any stock in any Russian company. Oh... So go back and get your facts straight Maria. Bitch! That's not true John. We know that you own shares you're on the board of Joe... It's not a Russian company. They own less than 5%.. It is backed by the Kremlin. I didn't own any shares in that company Maria. When you stepped off the board, you were given 75 thousand shares from Jolie? No! That is not true How many shares were you given John

1:25:56 Maria I didn't have any shares in any Russian company. I was on the board of an American company that did business here and only here The clean energy company that was trying to deal with the issue of trying to produce produce energy, liquid fuel from... Liquid fuel. It's like gold! A biotechnology process that was based in Boston and the Russian company had a very small investment in it and you could keep saying they gave me stock but they didn't. I'm just following all the widely reported information here John. There is also Hillary Clinton obviously. Maria maybe your looking at widely reported information from InfoWire

1:26:46 wars. she allowed that Russian company to acquire 20% of the US's uranium. So, the point I'm making here John is that there are much deeper ties to Russia on their Democratic side than there are in the Republican side and it's just a head-scratcher something this has been taking oxygen out of the room over Trump when in fact it's been your team that

1:27:40 of Vladimir Putin's foreign policy lock, stop and barrel. Okay! Alright I got two more short clips i think it is worth it because this is too funny There was a real question about what the response from the DNC was when your emails were hacked Look obviously your emails were hacked The DNC e-mails were hacked It was huge deal during campaign And may very well have swayed people in terms of the election. Now, Congressman Trey Gowdy of South Carolina is asking why a decision was made not to turn over the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton's email server to law enforcement or intelligence agencies when you got hacked? Why wasn't it given to law enforcement and the intelligence agencies did you not want government agencies to investigate this

1:28:28 Look, the Hillary Clinton servers were turned over to the agency. With respect to DNC I wasn't involved with that. I was the chair of... After being scrubbed? Yeah exactly. ...Hillary's campaign that was a matter for the DNC. I don't know well the circumstance and whether they were asked for him or whether they said yes or no but really is that if anything it looks like the FBI fairly casual maybe is a kind word of about the fact that they were uh... what they knew how much they are investigating their lackadaisical in their approach to the dnc's and uh... you know so i think you have to look at all picture and it seems like

1:29:08 if anything it's on the FBI that didn't come forward and really inform the DNC about what was going on until long after essentially the horse was out of the barn door. Why? I mean, is the FBI just politicized John? Is that what it was? And then finally she's going to stick a fork in him. You know, look that will be on the ballot in 2018 but I think most importantly in the next presidential race and I'm sure there is going to be a competitive primary. I bet you there are 15 or 20 people who at least think about or dive into running and the party will decide which direction it's going by the presidential candidate they pick not by the majority leader of the House of Representatives

1:29:54 that's why Hillary Clinton lost, there wasn't enough messaging in terms of the issues America cares about like jobs. Look, I think we had a strong economic program that we put forward but it was hard to get. The sun was sort of blocked out by the debate we were having with Donald Trump on social and his antics and issues. John, we appreciate your time this morning thank you so much for answering the important questions America cares about. Well, I like the way she walks that back. Thanks bye! Well, so again I remain that was a great series of clips as a group. I'm gonna give you a clip of the day cuz you should Thank you very much

1:30:58 And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C where the c stands for collusion. In the morning do you Mr Adam Curry all the morning too also in the morning to uh, the feet on the ground and the boots in the air and the sun's in the water and all the names of nights out there? Yes. In the morning everybody in the chat room know agenda stream dot com a good to have you every everybody there are lined up happy to be part of the program I want to thank our artist for episode 9 or 4, 5 of course the title of that was Jigabits and our artist was... here we go Conan Salada We like this a lot. This was um

1:31:42 This was uh, this is Hamilton with his a jerk hat on No, that's Jefferson Jefferson. The jerk Jefferson with his jerk hat on yes Yeah, Jefferson the jerk now this is very interesting Because I saw a post from my whole family of total robots and my rocket scientist uncle. This is the other uncle I don't talk about a lot, Ren. He was a NASA scientist and he's retired now. The rocket scientists pure rocket scientists. He posted or reposted retweeted Who are you surrounded by these people? Tell me about it. A Jefferson quote, and I can't find this Jefferson quote anywhere. It was... Probably bogus. That's what I thought. Jefferson apparently said when a leader speaks against the press that is the hallmark of a tyrant. I'm like, I don't... You know what? Jefferson hated the press! That doesn't sound right. Jefferson hated the press.

1:32:42 Yeah, it sounds like some bogus quote somebody just put together. There's a lot of bogus quotes out there You just take the quote put in Google and should show right up with the guys name No did not could not find I and it's not as Jefferson quote and I questioned him on it So I've yet to hear about check the bag. Check the bag is bull crap Let me see if he responded yet now He hasn't responded mmm gee I wonder why? Thanks you're like he's listening to the show once that was the end my family hates me Well, a lot of people don't hate us and they're the people that help us produce this show. I'm gonna name a few of them Thank you. I'm gonna give him but name by name Although there's a few anonymous come in once in awhile But not that many so let's start off with our $500 donor the top donor for today in Carlsbad California lieutenant colonel Elvin J Van Steenbergen Wow do we know do we know the lieutenant colonel? He's a retired Marine mm-hmm

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2:01:49 We hit people in the mouth. Squirrels! Shut up, Slade! Shut up, Slade... Alright I gotta give you a little Euro news man A little Euro news What's going on here? There is some stuff happening Yeah what's going on? Well The Eurozone is dysfunctional. In case you didn't realize it, it's very dysfunctional and we have not only the United States president in France for 14th of July that will be the big celebration tomorrow their Independence Day

2:02:28 But I believe Angela Merkel is hanging out with Macron. Emmanuel Macron is hosting Angela Merkel in Paris for the last Franco-German summit before the German elections in September The French president has called on Berlin to take action to help put right what he calls a dysfunctional eurozone by accepting more public and private investment in Europe In an interview published in French and German newspapers, Macron says he has nothing against German competitiveness but argues it's partly due to the weakness of other economies. The two leaders are also discussing defense security and counter-terrorism on Thursday Merkel's visit to Paris coincides with that of Donald Trump but there are no plans for the German leader to meet the US president. Yeah, no surprise there There is now talk all over the eurozone of appointing a singular

2:03:19 EU finance minister. People, you know... You didn't want to believe us when we told you this was none of this was a good idea but now your money is going to be centrally dictated by your eurozone finance minister so that will also be on the agenda I had a lot of conversations with Willow and the family about the migrants of course and We were talking about on their way up to her house she picked us up here in town we're talking about Italian law being significantly, you know there's a lot of precedence here and back in the... There has not been to my knowledge any terrorist attack. A radical Islamic terrorist attack in Italy where we've had that we've seen that happen in other countries

2:04:08 And there's probably some obvious reasons for that. But one thing Willow alerted me to is they do not have the Nicob or Burka issue in Italy and that stems back to the... Geez, was that the 80s? They had a lot of terrorists at them maybe even as The 90s well they had terrorist attacks here But not from radical Islamists. There was all kinds of stuff going on... What was the name of the group who were bombing stuff in Italy, John? What group was that again? I don't know! The first thing that comes to mind is Batter Meinhof. I think there's... Don't remember. It wasn't them. Well anyway you know it is illegal, illegal in Italy to cover your face in public You may not-you can if you cannot go into a store or any place of business with your helmet on

2:05:01 All of that is outlawed and illegal, and somehow they're still able to maintain this. Hold on a second! The French have similar laws and every time the French talk about doing anything like that they get shouted down by the media how come nobody's ever said any I didn't know this? I didn't know it either but also you know Italy is welcoming you know Italy has for oh my gosh how long has Italy been taking in migrants for eight years now This has been ongoing for a long, long time. However in Brussels they finally pushed it through. Belgium can ban Islamic face veils in public judges have ruled that's the decision from the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg. Belgium's ban was introduced in 2011

2:05:48 Two women had challenged it because they wanted to wear the niqab, which covers everything but the eyes of the wearer. The court hides behind the states by failing to find a violation of what is called the principle of subsidiarity. But it points out Belgium is embarking on a dangerous path It could really lead to stigmatization. It recognizes that Belgium has made a choice, that it's a choice of society with all the dangers that go along with that but in the end it doesn't rule against it. Supporters of secularism in Belgium hailed the decision saying there should be some restrictions on religious freedom In any case this is a decision which is logical because it goes along the same lines as other decisions

2:06:28 So we find that this goes in the right direction. In the end, there's a certain logic of living together. We must have freedoms which are as wide as possible but there must also be some limits at the time of the ban being approved six years ago Belgium said it was necessary on security grounds. You just wait and see how that guy got a mouthful of marbles? Yeah, yeah that's the euro news I it's hard to get anything else in English that is really playable now back to Italy so there you know there's a political turmoil right now and we have Renzi

2:07:05 Who has now stepped down he said he would depending on how the you know How everything has been going in the past few months and now there's blame going on about The migrants of course as you know, the Italian migrants are being blocked You can't get into any other country if you go into Italy And now you have the, I guess what used to be the left is now kind of center right and they're saying well you guys back in the day in 2000. I think it might have been back in 2000 4 even as early as that. You guys said bring all your migrants here and now look at it, now we have all this going on so there's a lot of turmoil about who is to blame for the migrant crisis which is rampant in Italy The EU has shown solidarity with Italy in the face of the arrival of migrants by the Mediterranean but there are still disagreements

2:07:57 28 interior ministers gathered yesterday in Tallinn for an informal meeting. They all agreed on an action plan presented earlier this week by the European Commission. Since the start of the year, nearly 85 thousand people have landed on the Italian coast according to the International Organization for Migration. But there are divergences. Italy hopes other member countries will open their ports to ships carrying migrants, however that question has been postponed according to the Italian Interior Minister We've sent a letter to the institution that must deal with that which is Frontex we'll discuss about it next week It's clear on this point there are opposite positions If Italy has its own point of view other countries have their points of view As its fair we'll discuss about it

2:08:42 and we'll discuss, if I may say so with the necessary determination. Which means screw you! You're stuck with them you're not going to get rid of them but they don't seem to have a big problem with it the Italians don't seem to be that freaked out about it They also...they have um.. They are not so much refugees They say well yeah we have a lot of economic migrants and we got a spot for them They can sell selfie sticks USB adapters which seems to be working out fine What do you need a USB adapter for? I don't know, but these guys have these like cardboard. They have their own little cardboard setup it's just basically a cardboard box and they open it up right after all the bad guys, the bag B-A-G clean up there...the ripoffs and I gotta tell you funny story in a minute

2:09:35 And then you know, it's like right around dusk then they come out on the streets and they have a you know They're their little cardboard table and it's got selfie sticks. They've got USB power adapters for your phone and plug adapters for European to us so we go out we needed another suitcase I told you this You know, suitcase and we've been walking around. And of course when you're not looking for a suitcase every store has a suitcase We're looking for a suitcase we can't find one so we wind up walking past the dome here and this is interesting suitcase also in Italy as well known for its leather products as well

2:10:14 beautiful leather products, you know and very inexpensive because they're all made locally. They do steal that and we walk into this one store and I say oh this is a nice suitcase like 65 euros it's a good size it's a reasonable price the first thing the sales lady says not Chinese! What do you mean? Not Chinese... And then the owner comes out We don't sell Chinese or Pakistani crap This is all Italian screw them Wow You're pretty racist Yes Yes. Just a tad racist. I don't know where that was going. Well, good! I think that's good you get side... Yeah, I've had this situation where they get an extra bag or two yeah but i always go to the usually a Chinese shop and buy some $15 loser yeah just some junker I know will make one flight yeah now this will make a couple this is sturdy it was nice good piece

2:11:09 Oh, I do have a couple of fun clips. We are behind... Well before we go there, I want to get some Trump stuff out of the way that has something to do with what's going on and since you brought up that he went to Paris There is a funny bit that they did this has not gotten very far but it's funny This was on MSNBC again this was Brian the liar And I didn't notice this, but I haven't listened to enough Trump speeches that I know that he tells his anecdote. And this is the story of Jim.

2:11:51 And I said, how's your trip going? He goes where France he said. I'm not going to France because France is no longer France if you look at what's happening in France It's no longer friends friends of mine that used to love to go to Paris They say we're not going to Paris anymore. It's no longer Paris. I have a friend every year. He goes to Paris I haven't seen him in all Perry Oh the city of light she's tell me for years very very I see him like a month ago. How is Paris this summer? Boy, I don't go to Paris are you kidding me It's no longer Paris! I have a friend He's a very very substantial guy He loves the City of Lights he loves Paris hadn't seen him in awhile And i said Jim let me ask you question how's Paris doing? Paris?! I don't go there anymore Paris is no longer Paris

2:12:45 You get the gist. That's the short and curious story of Jim. Vivian adds this in her story of Jim, quote... I love Jim! But I think that- Jim? Jim?! I don't go to Paris anymore because there is not Paris anymore. Whoa! And now he's in Paris. Hmm. Yes, that's the reason I think they did this is to needle him of course But I know nobody's picked up on this but Trump does repeat himself on his speeches Because he's got a talk for two hours where if we remember when he first started doing these stump speeches and you get these big crowds

2:13:30 And of course they'd report on Trump as an idiot and of course it wouldn't even really bother me about the media. I think which is important about the DNC break-in was that Bernie would get his big crowd if not bigger than Trump always. Absolutely, absolutely he could have beat Trump. He could have beaten Trump! I think so too i've always felt that way yeah sure real possibility The other little clip that's a little aside, this is the Stockholm Syndrome. And let me set it up. This was a guy who is a historian who does his history of presidents Meacham I think is his last name he looks like Gary Johnson almost dead ringer and he was on MSNBC and they were discussing the fact that after all this crap that's going on 85% of the Republicans still approve of Trump's you know they're talking about those lousy ratings but 85 percent of Republicans

2:14:22 like Trump and they still do. And so this is dimension B, they have no idea how this could possibly happen. So here's the explanation. 63% but what not making fun but I do think that Republican Party right now The only way I can explain that 85 percent as a rational matter is they have Stockholm syndrome They sold their souls in many ways for victory with this man who came in and swamped a field of very traditional candidates that included governors and senators. And they are trapped in this really kind of tragic embrace. The question to my mind, the answer to the question about the tipping point is there needs to be a two in front of his overall approval rating

2:15:12 And I think at that point, people in that 85% may come down. But we live in two... as you just said, we live in two very different countries right now. Oh geez! You mean universes douche? Stockholm syndrome. It's the same country. Yeah well we know who really has a Stockholm syndrome. Geez Well I got an MSNBC clip A really crazy one And I think we're going to be seeing more of this. And this is Ivanka, Ivanka Trump is to be hated and this is not abnormal in my opinion. I've been around a bit. I've been around the globe for a bit. I've been around the world for a bit. Pretty women are often hated

2:15:58 and just get hated. Eventually, eventually certainly if they're successful you know and then you need to talk them down And we all know that Ivanka she's not successful because she is successful it was because of her dad and we know that she is a horrible person This is a contributor on MSNBC Joan Walsh are you familiar with Joan Walsh? Yeah, I have. Yeah, I've seen Joan Washburn. Is she or where is she? What's her deal as she thinks she's a writer? Could be wrong could be. I don't remember. I just I've seen it. She may be a professional talk show person could be and and she has a nice sleeveless dress on sleeveless with a decollete and she has a nice diamond pendant. You know she looks like your professional woman on television there's nothing wrong with it you know fine

2:16:49 Pearls should be wearing pearls but going well. She should be wearing pearls pearly necklace But she is very, very disturbed by the fact that Ivanka sat in for her father during the G20. This is another you know this is funny because we I was thinking about putting some stuff together for like not though yeah I think there's like a show would go at least when this happened Yeah and everybody wasn't it was just to me It was like a not talk about a non news story They it's I we got to start documenting these things so they go from one of these little events To another to another and that sitting down at the table in her dad's seat was huge. Oh, oh this is unbelievable! It wasn't? What what was it the woman's thing that was that what she was sitting down for or what was uh... No no what happened they were at the main table for the G20, the main table I believe and there were some meetings off kind of off campus just in the back room but I don't know where they were but Donald had to get up and he asked his daughter just take his place in the seat

2:17:50 Because she's, you know... I would say she's decorative. She's kind of sexist but the fact- Don't worry what you're about to hear is nothing compared to what you're saying here Nothing at all And so they put her down there and I didn't think it was- So what? Yeah Well, but this represents I believe thinking of a lot of women in dimension B certainly if they appear on MSNBC and I'm quite blown away by it that I thought women were supposed to stick together and are supposed to you know, hate men. I mean what are you doing? Well it's like blacks are supposed to stick together but not if they're a Republican! Yeah i think that there's one woman benefiting from Ivanka's crusade for women and that is Ivanka Trump herself uh that 50 million dollar fund for women entrepreneurs has been controlled by her the fact that she doesn't take a salary only reflects her own great wealth thanks partly or largely to her father

2:18:45 uh... and you know when she's tried to go back for us allegedly uh... her solution to the defunding of Planned Parenthood was to tell Cecile Richards performing abortions. That was her brilliant compromise, which would hurt many poor women around the country so I think that feminists and women really ought to give up the idea that Ivanka is our person in the White House because if she's trying at all she's completely ineffectual Also it's a little muddy about not taking salary while having this status of being a federal employee yet not having to be held to different ethical standards

2:19:24 Also saying that she doesn't want to be involved in politics. Sitting for her father at the G20... Right, with big bows on her sleeve I mean I don't mean to sound sexist it can be dangerous to comment on what women wear but the fact that she sat in for her father and a dress that was so incredibly ornamental was such contradiction in terms and I think that what we see is that in authoritarian societies daughters have great value they are property. And the message that she is sending about her own value, about her place in the White House and about the place of women in this administration I think are really pretty frightening so... You think you're opening yourself up to

2:20:05 about the bows. Are you looking at Twitter yet? Not yet, but I will. It's a pink dress with big big bows on the elbows there's something incredibly ornamental that's not addressed it's made for work that's not address its need to go out in the world and make a difference. That is a dress that is designed to show off your girliness, and you know God bless her! Show it off but don't then tell us that you're crusading for an equal place for women at the table because you're not. So you can't be a feminist and be girly at the same time? You can be a feminist and be girly we all have our girly days but I think showing up taking your father's seat

2:20:43 in a pink dress with big bows on the sleeves is really an interesting message. I also don't know why HR McMaster and Rex Tillerson didn't quit on the spot that they wouldn't sit in, that she would get to sit there." What? Yeah. They're playing! There's some head games going here and I'm just gonna break it down. Break it down. I know Twitter's waiting for me Thomas but I give you my word. unfiltered reaction. From the broader American perspective, I think you know as we recoil under a president who wants to be an isolationist the only people that raise their profile is Trump over and over again so we'll see if there is action that backs up the initiative Oh man too pink and with bows oh no you don't represent women you have to be ugly! And wear shit shitty clothes baggy wear something baggy disgusting

2:21:34 Maybe if she had a pink pussy hat it would have been okay, I don't know. Yeah probably would've been- That to me is really really sexist and then to say maybe it's sexist... I have to break it down now gotta break it down gotta break it down These people make me sick Well they're sickening Oh hey John because we talked about it I got the full length quote you know I've been tracking Stephen Hawking You know Stephen Hawking who doesn't seem to be Stephen Hawking anymore Yes, this theory of yours is getting traction amongst the more liberal-minded let's say of our audience. Yes well you recall I had this quote it was just a little quote from him now they be so I tracked down the full BBC interview or at least what they aired of it and its only audio

2:22:23 It is not of him, you don't see him on camera. But I have the full climate change quote from Stephen Hawking which is really quite astounding coming from a scientist. We are close to the tipping point where global warming becomes irreversible Trump's action could push the Earth over the brink to become like Venus with a temperature of 250 degrees and raining sulfuric acid. Climate change is one of the great dangers we face, and it's one we can prevent if we act now

2:22:59 By denying the evidence for climate change and pulling out of the Paris Climate Agreement, Donald Trump will cause avoidable environmental damage to our beautiful planet endangering the natural world for us and our children. I mean, that's really a scientific quote there. I'm very very surprised that this is coming from the mind. Are we sure this isn't bogus? Well the BBC... How is it going to start raining sulfuric acid?! At what point do you not trust the BBC? But wait! There's more Just to follow up on his disease, it is indeed ALS and he has a wish. A Urefer Motor Neurone Disease otherwise known as ALS or at least a halt to its progression when I was diagnosed at 21 I was told it would kill me in two or three years

2:23:54 Now, 54 years later albeit weepin' in a wheelchair I am still working and producing scientific papers. But it's been a great struggle which i have got through only with a lot of help from my family colleagues and friends There you go the longest survivor of ALS ever fabulous This is bogus this caulking is dead whoever they put in his place is a stooge Sorry, this can't be true. Yeah well again I don't have really anything to say about this. I normally should be just debunking you but the logic of it is correct. I'm sorry to say it but what else can you make of it? And there's been a lot written about this. The giveaway to me is that commentary about raining sulfuric acid we're going to become Venus 250 degrees please

2:25:00 It's just not doesn't make any sense at all. I mean, I mean I understand by the way We do play these sorts of climate stuff for our people are friends in Germany Yes You do get the information it's just that we think is crazy John well, I got a couple things yeah Yeah, I'm respectful. I'm respectful of your time because I know you need to leave on time So just you know we still have a whole donation segment to go through oh I'm right, i just want to get through my clips. I do have some update on the ceasefire in Syria. Yes, please that's falling apart because of the again...I think it is the neocons and the Soros people. Well you know what? I got to say just one slight aside note now there is all this oh! The strategy in Afghanistan isn't working and oh boy what are we going to do with Afghanistan, Afghanistan John McCain is out in full force my military contacts unanimously say

2:25:58 We need more sales. We need more sales Afghanistan is now the new place because no one knows what the hell is going on there So we'll just say this strategy's not working and then we'll go sell some more stuff They're selling a lot of stuff mm-hmm The Syria thing isn't kind of like you were supposed to do a deal with the Russians Thanks to Trump, but this has been kind of busted up and they got back and forth I've got three clips we can get through them. We everyone be caught up on this okay? Let's get this out of the way. Ceasefire nobody is clear. The details of the agreed cease-fire in Syria which came into force last Sunday are just one of the things that US government appears to be playing down as Jacqueline Vuga reports from Washington.

2:25:00 It's just not doesn't make any sense at all. I mean, I mean I understand by the way We do play these sorts of climate stuff for our people are friends in Germany Yes You do get the information it's just that we think is crazy John well, I got a couple things yeah Yeah, I'm respectful. I'm respectful of your time because I know you need to leave on time So just you know we still have a whole donation segment to go through oh I'm right, i just want to get through my clips. I do have some update on the ceasefire in Syria. Yes, please that's falling apart because of the again...I think it is the neocons and the Soros people. Well you know what? I got to say just one slight aside note now there is all this oh! The strategy in Afghanistan isn't working and oh boy what are we going to do with Afghanistan, Afghanistan John McCain is out in full force my military contacts unanimously say

2:25:58 We need more sales. We need more sales Afghanistan is now the new place because no one knows what the hell is going on there So we'll just say this strategy's not working and then we'll go sell some more stuff They're selling a lot of stuff mm-hmm The Syria thing isn't kind of like you were supposed to do a deal with the Russians Thanks to Trump, but this has been kind of busted up and they got back and forth I've got three clips we can get through them. We everyone be caught up on this okay? Let's get this out of the way. Ceasefire nobody is clear. The details of the agreed cease-fire in Syria which came into force last Sunday are just one of the things that US government appears to be playing down as Jacqueline Vuga reports from Washington.

2:26:47 to and a ceasefire in Syria, and we're really ready to move forward. Putin and Trump did discuss that joint cybersecurity unit but Trump has since backtracked on that with a post on Twitter after the idea was widely attacked here in Washington And about that ceasefire in Syria—the most important achievement reached by the US and Russia in conjunction with Jordan Moscow has already outlined what role in the suspension of hostilities they will play But America's has yet to be clarified

2:27:34 Yeah, they and the State Department chimes in apparently a state department's taking over the program. which irks the Pentagon. And I find that rather suspicious, but let's get to part two and we'll be done with this." And recent reports show that the Pentagon was left completely out of the process. We reached out to the Pentagon to see if they could shed some light on the plan and they in turn said that the State Department was the head agency and referred us to them. But they also have yet to come up with a solid strategy. In terms of who is doing what when where how some Some of those details are still being worked out. So no real answer there either and the spokeswoman also had a rather strange reaction to Russia's foreign minister having made comments about working on a ceasefire monitoring station in Jordan Is there any clarity so far on the monitoring of the Syrian ceasefire? Obviously Lavrov said yesterday that it was going to be done with the United States and Jordan from a center in Amman Do you have anymore details on that Mr. Lavrov likes likes to talk a lot

2:28:34 out ahead, I think of some of the negotiations that are underway. That is all still being worked out." So we're seeing again one step forward two steps back what's becoming the usual US approach to working with Russia and what network was this that had this reporting? RT of course. That was clip two? Yeah. Number three? Some of America's partners in Europe have also pointed out the inconsistency of America's Russia policy a German government official, Gernot Erler has lashed out at the US saying its policy is an indecisive back and forth with no clear direction Former U.S. diplomat Jim Jatras told us what's behind them mixed signals coming from Washington If the Russians believe that Americans are talking with 2 voices that's because we are

2:29:24 Clearly, I think President Trump is very sincere in trying to work out some kind of a broader arrangement with Moscow and that he faces tremendous opposition here in Washington from people who didn't want this meeting to take place at all or wanted it be, at best, a pro forma handshake and pleasantries kinda thing not to affect any substance. We have a lot of people here if you will in the deep state who don't want any cooperation with Russia on anything particularly on Syria and there is a huge potential that somebody may try to sabotage it but I'm still rather optimistic. Same old stuff, you got your neocons you got your Soros she's got your CIA... Where are the Kagans in all this? They're very quiet. Yeah of course they're quite because everything is going as planned

2:39:06 So you've... and they're legal, they're fishing legally. They have a fishing license. You know and there's like kids who are fishing so catch your fish! And these people with these t-shirts I don't know exactly what group their with They run up and grab the fish and throw it back in the water Because, John... fish is not food. Killing animals is wrong! I'm wrong for telling kids that? You're wrong for making a scene bro. Yeah you're disturbing property. I'm wrong for telling kids that fishing is wrong? That doesn't make any sense dude. That doesn't make any sense. This guy's calling the cops because I just saved an animal's life okay? Yay he saved his life! Yeah I saved the fishes life. It's not fair!

2:39:48 It's not food, it's violence. Fishing causes pain to other beings. Please stop it! Use some compassion. Use your minds okay? If you wouldn't kill a child then why would you kill a fish or any animal? It's violence! Killing fish is no kindness. Well, I had the right idea

2:40:32 Fish is not food, it's violence. It's violence! I'm gonna give you a clip of the day for that Wow thank you two clips of the day my goodness no three I got a threefer wow I didn't get three he got to I know i got i got a clip for these Podesta yeah thats the one No I got one earlier too No Okay Well, maybe it did but I don't remember. It was too long ago this show goes on forever! I know let's wrap it up then Johnny boy play us out here well just a couple of things Can we do the elephant sex? Is elephant sex any good? No no that is too long and leads to a long discussion We'll put it off for a week Okay

2:41:16 We got a couple things we can do. The Ray FBI guy is going to be affirmed by the CBS report on it, it's not that interesting I found this little clip, this short clip A little more interesting because of people that listen to me and talk about the stock market know of some of my opinions and this is the yelling to dump bonds clip. Monetary policy is not on a preset course we're watching this very closely and stand ready to adjust our policy if it appears that the inflation undershoot will be persistent

2:41:53 Separately, Yellen said the Fed could begin to unload its massive bond holdings this year. It bought government bonds during and after the recession in order to lower long-term interest rates and boost economic activity. Wow they're gonna dump them? Yeah yeah! This is not good this is what you predicted this is how it starts Well, it starts somehow but we don't know if that's gonna start it or exacerbate. One of the two but when I heard that I said another one just another one and there are a lot of these little things to check list of things that are not good when it comes to bond collapse which is due

2:42:42 end of this year. Some people are predicting October, but that's a little too when I start seeing that then I say probably won't happen at all this year and probably be put off till spring of next year but it'll happen in this. And if you want to make some money here's Adam's tip from the future short snap its below its IPO price now I already predicted that it's going to about five dollars These are not recommendations. You know the spiel? You actually read the spiel out loud on Horowitz's show once. We do not give stock advice and that what he just said is non-stock advice, this is purely for entertainment purposes. Yes there you go

2:43:22 Uh, so on Sunday you will have our fabulous two hours mix special. Look forward to that and coming to you from Florence Italy That's right the capital of the Renaissance man in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where i'm sitting here On garbage day and as the weather sucks it's windy I'm John C Dvorak We'll be back on Sunday right here on no agenda until then adios mofos disparaging thing about Independence Day, it was just a white supremacy nonsense. This is where it's headed. Our country was built on slaves! The slaves build our country. Once this Robert E. Lee... they did at least in the South. They once Robert E. Lee has been taken down for I don't know what kind of

2:44:17 reasons are because he was a great general for all practical purposes. Then it's gonna just go, it's gonna get worse they're gonna start rewriting history and the people like that girl that was cited in the first report Wow! You know? Wow wow And then to top it off Putin on the back is like a tap you know I'm like where is your collusion people I mean Madonna had a black one. Okay, this guy leaves when South Carolina ends up in a Motel 6 in Austin Texas Yeah, I mean this guy and he's just gave before is one of those guys And I like that I liked the native ad they left the light on that was good

2:45:23 I will never, again attend a meeting of this kind. What? You know what, I gotta check something. Broke that would be a red flag! This dude has got such a fixation Why are you all dressed up?! Who are you trying to oppress? Are you trying to get somebody in trouble? Not now The White House says there is no agenda But we're acting responsibly illegally. Well, that would be a red flag. You can't out bully a boy! It seems like it was a plan the White House says there is no agenda because if it's gonna go down with heat it should go up with cold

2:46:06 billion years of long-term luck. It seems like it was a plan well and the plan is working well I have no agenda The White House says there is no agenda! I have no agenda I think this is what it sets in keep playing, keep playing, keep playing Oh the food truck! Eeeh! Duh duh duh duh! This dude has got such a fixation And once again, Russia is the prime suspect. Yes I'm going to Russia so i brought my own toilet paper! I will never...I will never again attend a meeting of this kind This dude has got such a fixation The White House says there is no agenda Keep playing it Well I am here in Rome John So are you roaming around?

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