Jiggabits

00:00 From the richest people to the poorest, from the right to the left, from sea to shining sea, Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. And Sunday, July 9th, 2017, this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 9er, 4, 5. This is no agenda. Working on the EU data straw and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet in the capital of Gitmo nation, Parmesan in Rome in the morning. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where Twitter keeps asking me to follow Sarah Silverman. Why? I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. That is concerning. Yeah. Of all the things I've heard today.

00:45 Yeah, every time I go to Twitter's here's who you should follow And she's right at the top nice. Why I don't know why the algo man the algo all-knowing algo Well, I'm here in Rome John so are you roaming around? Yeah, data roaming around so how you do. Oh, that's right. Let's start with that. Do you really it's really it's bad. Oh So you were complaining bitterly on your Twitter account for hours

01:23 issues that you had. And my favorite tweet was, and it made me actually laugh, was they won't let me buy. In other words, they won't take your money. They won't let you buy another gigabyte of data until July 30th. That's some date. Why? What is the point? Here's my money. No, no, no. We don't want your money. I kind of have to give you the whole rundown for you to fully appreciate what I've been going through. Okay. And know that I almost considered just giving up. It was very, very close. That has never happened. Oh yeah, finally. And I want you to... Let's just use this one word because if you ever come to Italy, this is a word you will, and you're looking for data, this is a word you will hate. Jigga.

02:23 Or you need to buy a gigabyte. No, no, it's not gigabyte, it's gigas. How many gigas? Gigas? You want gigas? Gigas. 21 gigas. Gigas, gigas, gigas, gigas, gigas, gigas. You will come to hate this word. Okay, here we go. Fully aware that there could be issues in Italy with, and France of course, but in Italy with data, we were reasonably prepared. We had the XCOM Global, which is a global Wi-Fi hotspot. As you know, that already crapped out in Amsterdam, but we got it to work again in Amsterdam. We had my Sprint with 4G LTE high-speed international data. Tina Marie's, T-Mobile, she has Sprint. I have T-Mobile, she has Sprint. Also paying for 4G LTE international roaming data.

03:22 We, that's three networks. The Airbnb that we were in has a wired internet and based on my request, the host also had a Vodafone MiFi 4G LTE hotspot. So I'm counting five networks. You've got all the networks it seems or at least many of them a good many a good many so the What is it? The global, the Xcom global. That crapped out after about 100 megabits of megabytes of data. And so this is the second time this has happened and I contacted them and they said, well, you know, it's a, this is, you know, we told you in the, this fine print that, you know, you really have to be very careful because we don't control what the other op, what the, what our roaming partners do.

04:22 And but you know 200 megabytes for an unlimited unlimited global 4g LTE is you know not quite unlimited Close yeah, so I you know I call them. Yeah, we're sorry. We'll have to contact them It takes 12 hours on a weekday But we'll have to wait until Monday before we can even start to think about that okay the The now wired internet in Italy I knew was a problem and it's really, really bad. I mean it's spotty, it craps out, it's pretty much ADSL from what I see here. And I was not getting connections, it was dropping packets, very frustrating. So we forget that. My T-Mobile, and both T-Mobile and Tina's Sprint,

05:17 clocked in at the 4G LTE broadband speed of 128 kilobits per second. And you can see that it's being limited if you use the speed test app. The minute you hit the app, it goes, for a second, you can see it go to like 30 gigas, 30 gigabits. And then it immediately goes down to 0.09. You know, it might peak out at 0.1. So that's pretty much your 128 kilobits. So I call up T-Mobile. Now, this is now... Before I do that, the Vodafone hotspot, which Francesco, our Airbnb host, had left behind, very kind of him, this was kind of working. I was getting about 4 megabits per second.

06:11 Down and about 2 megabits per second up not ideal at all But certainly usable for you know we can do the show with that. We've done. We've done it on on speeds like that I'm just checking you still with me John. Yeah, okay. Yep. Yeah, you never know Now we were very you know using this very sparingly just in case you know let's see if we weren't we I think we uploaded two pictures and We weren't even doing email didn't connect any laptops. You know I've been around the block a few times and and All of a sudden it stops working, and this is last night around midnight. We went to bed. I'm like okay I'm just gonna just check the I turn the best I turned the hotspot on

06:59 And I'm like, okay, let's just make sure this is working because it got speed and it doesn't work. And I'm looking and now he's a subscriber to Vodafone. So when you connect to the account information, it's in Italian. And so I'm connected to the, I'm connected to the MiFi. So I can talk to, I can't, I can't, you know, go to Google to get a translate because I have no connection, but I can see in Italian that it's telling me, you've used up your seven gigas for this month.

07:41 Okay, great. I'd like to purchase... The word is... What is the word? The word is... Ricaricabile. I think it means recharge. So, I'd like to recharge. Ah, no, no, no, no, no. You can't recharge until the last day of July, but you can get SOS data for 5 euros. You can get 1 giga for 5 euros. That's all that's available to you, sir. Okay, so I get my one giga for five euros and it's very clear, once you kind of get into the right area, once you figure out where you're supposed to be in this interface in Italian, you can kind of understand what's going on. And it's clear, you cannot buy any additional data. He only had seven gigabytes, gigas per month. He doesn't know, I mean, I wasn't thinking about, you know,

08:37 I just wasn't thinking about what his account, because he's a subscriber, it's not prepaid or anything. So absolutely not possible. I check with him, he says, no, I can change the account. I'm happy to do that for you, but I can't do that until Monday. And I'd have, you know, he'd have to upgrade his account to something else. And he says, indeed, they will not take your money. So I'm going to use this one giga to get online and try and figure out what's going on and hopefully get my T-Mobile or Tina's Sprint working. T-Mobile is pretty much flatlining. At 128 kilobits per second, the speed test app will fail. It says, yeah, too much latency, can't even do it.

09:18 So I call up T-Mobile, who the first thing they say is, oh, Mr. Curry, you're on a grandfathered plan here. You're paying twice as much than you have to. Hey, thanks for telling me. Can you get me my high speed data that I'm paying for? Yeah, well, of course. All these, all these, uh, Telecommunications companies pull that stunt. Everybody, from what I can tell, I know that if I went to Comcast and started bitching, I would get my price down. Right. They all had, you're all, you're all, all, all. And by the way, thanks for making me feel old, ageist pricks.

10:00 Gramps. Grand- for- Gramps. Alright, so I feel good. Alright. I said, but that's okay, you know. Uh, well, why don't I do that for you? Then, why did you not change anything? Let's just figure out what's going on. Uh, oh, it doesn't matter because we can't change it now anyway because your billing cycle doesn't start until... Fine. Let's work on this. Okay, so this is level one support and I have no problem with dudes and dudettes named Ben and Bernadette I know and they're not to blame necessarily So I was very I was nothing but courteous. Okay, let's get this going Well, yeah, we're seeing yeah, you still I mean we have coverage and you have all three networks that are roaming partners So this should not be an issue But let's go through the steps, okay?

10:41 Oh, can you guess what step number one is on the list of checking to make sure that you get your high-speed 4G LTE data? Jiggle the handle? Very close. Please go into your iPhone and delete all your website history and cache. See, this is not something I prefer to do. Um, you know, in fact, it actually is counterintuitive because anything... Why? Sorry? Why? You ask them why? Oh, no. Hold on a second. I said, it makes this has nothing to do with speed. Absolutely nothing at all. I don't like doing this because if I get my connection back up, it's going to be re-downloading images and all kinds of other crap that I've already have stored and you know, that makes no sense for me or you and your network. Okay, well, you don't have to do it. But if it doesn't work, then you know, I can't help you. You have to go through this step.

11:42 Okay, so you could have just said you did yeah, John, but you know now we're at quarter to one and I want to do the show and I really just want to I want to make sure we get this done So do all that, go through everything. Well, you know, you have to restart, reset your network settings, all of this stuff. Then, and when your phone comes back on, I'll call you back. Yeah, and to be fair, she did call me back. And of course, there's no difference. It's exactly the same. Well, then we'll... Sorry? I said of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I'll send you over to our top level tech support. All right. 10 minutes later. Okay. Yeah, oh yeah. Mr. Curry, yeah, we're going to help you out here. And please let me verify your identity all over again. There's another little, that's something that's a peeve of mine. You call one of the, all of them.

12:42 You call and give us your phone number, give us your, you know, what is your last number? Last four digits of your social security number. All this stuff. And then you go to the next level and then they say, what's your phone number? What's your last four letters? I just gave it to you. I'm calling from... And then you go to somebody. Yeah, exactly. And you move, no matter what you do, apparently there's no way of, there's no computer with a screen that says what you already have done. So we go through this. And, alright, all these different, you know, again, network settings, and I've already done all this, but okay, I'll be patient. And then, okay, now you have to restart your phone, I will call you back in 15 minutes. So do that, and it's interesting, because when you delete your settings, and the phone comes back on, and you have to remember to turn on your roaming data, so I do all that, and it's 128 kilobits. 20 minutes later, the phone rings. Hi, Scott?

13:39 Yeah, no, I hope you're calling for Adam, okay? Please, tell me you're calling for Adam. Oh, I'm sorry, yeah, the confusion. Fine, okay. Uh, well, we've looked- You know, at this point, I'm almost convinced there's a script. That says Scott right there. There's a script for all of this. Of course, it's all a script. Yeah, I'll call you back in 15 minutes. Hey Bill, you have the new script? Yeah, use the name Scott. Exactly. Exactly. Let me get my pen and paper. So it's clear it's not going to work. Well, unfortunately Mr. Curry, we have to talk to our roaming partners. This has to go at a different level.

14:24 Because it's something on their network, and I totally believe that We can't do anything about it. It'll take a minimum of three days By the way They knew this from the beginning. There's not just not like some all of a sudden some shocking revelation Well, this is when they first talked to you they knew this oh You'd think so, but let me go through the whole process and the steps that I went through. So now I'm kind of freaking out because now it's 2.30 in the morning. I don't know how I'm going to do the show. This is going to be a problem. And now I'm kind of irritated. So I tweet at John Legere, the CEO of T-Mobile. And I attach a picture of the

15:12 of the text message I received, which I will read to you. The text message was really nice. It says, um... Thank you for being a valued T-Mobile customer. Trouble ticket 16711104 has been opened on your account. Please allow three business days for teams to review. Resolution can take longer depending on an issue. And thank you for being a valued T-Mobile customer. And so I tweet John Legere, the CEO, yeah, I feel really effing valued right now. And I mean, and now, now here's what happens. Hey, I'm Fred. I'm with the T-Mobile social team. Let me DM me. I'll help you out.

15:56 So, you know, I DM the guy said, look, man, I know, I know your job. I've been through everything. You can't change a single thing here. Yeah, I'm going to help. And of course it's because I tweeted the CEO and then he says, well, I need to verify that your, your, your account, could you please install this T-Mobile A help app? Now it's not an app you install on your phone, it's an app that talks to- that you install on Twitter. And this app permissions to read everything, including my password, all my DMs, anything in my- they can't change it, but they can read everything. Why? Thank you.

16:48 And I do it because I have the show. I do it. I do it. And dedication. And then I get a different T-Mobile person and we're looking into your account and I give them all the info. Heard nothing back. So I then, you know, now I'm on a tirade and I'm like, you know, F this. You know, this is, you're lying. Your partners are full of crap. They're, they're throttling you. And when you, if you go and look, if you do a search online and you try and find people who have data issues, Everyone has this and it's not just T-Mobile, it's Sprint, it's AT&T and I'm sure it's the holidays, vacation and everybody's roaming around and these networks in Italy at least, they're just throttling everybody. And I kind of understand why, but that's net neutrality perhaps. So boom, that's just out of the question. I will say that then I start to get DMs from John Legere.

17:50 Well, from his account. I don't know if it's him or not. Seems unlikely. Seems unlikely, yeah. But he's like, I want to pass this on to our executive team, and... And I was pretty rude, so... I was like, hey man, if it's really you, I appreciate it that you're even trying. Now comes the next part. Okay. Maybe I can... Find a prepaid setup that I can just buy locally and just use it I mean that maybe I should have started there But I thought four or five networks would be enough and by the way the guy who I've had to block on Twitter for saying You should have been prepared. You know

18:29 I don't know how more prepared you get a band. Okay. Well, let's start. Let's start with that guy that guy You you got this crazy devices XCOM whatever it is. Yes convent. It's just an on it's just an unlocked You know Wi-Fi device is not nothing. Yeah, it's a Wi-Fi You have the my fi Yes, the phone have all these phones which are all They're all phones that you can link to. Yeah, hotspots. And you called all the vendors to tell them you're going to be overseas roaming and you need the... I paid for it. We paid for it. And we paid for it. You paid for it. We should get a refund, by the way. You paid for this, which you should get a refund for. How much more can you be prepared? You know, people...

19:20 These days, certainly on social networks, it's no different from any community online. Everyone's a comedian. Everyone's funny. Everyone knows the best. Everyone knows what is better. But here's something that's very concerning. So I just want to figure it out. So I start searching. I'm now down to about 200 megabytes left on my one giga Vodafone. Now, I defy anyone to find... anything of use, thanks to SEO, when it comes to this problem. I've written columns about this. I know you have. This is why I bring it up. And you'll find blog posts after blog post. Here's what to do. Five tips roaming in Italy. Here's how you do it. And they're all fucking ads. They're all fucking ads. Sorry, I won't do it anymore. They're all just native ads. The first five pages.

20:19 Oh, but then of course you'll get one or two of the Italian telecoms with great offers. Two gigas! Two gigas! 20 euros! Two gigas! But let me tell you something. I need about 20 gigas in order to prep and do the show. I know what it is because I have, you know, I know what it is. I do this a lot. So I know how much data I need, and two gigas is not gonna get me very far. But, you know what? Maybe I can... by ten of them and you know, I'll edit the show, you know, if it craps out we'll put in the next card. This is how I think man, this is what I do for the show. Okay, I can do this. Now you have Tim, which is Telecom Italia Mobile, then you have Wins, you have Vodafone, and you have something else called Three I think or whatever, I don't remember what it is.

21:15 You have to understand that pretty much Google is also telling me that pretty much everything is closed on Sunday. If you want to find a telco store. That's a great thing about Europe. So I get up, I sleep for about four and a half hours. I get up, I call Willow because I'm not going to call her in the middle of the night. I have a sister here. He knows, she knows what's going on. Willow. Willow goes, oh boy. She says, oh boy. She said, let's start with Vodafone. She says, it's the best one, Vodafone, and it's absolutely true. There's no way. She said, you can get the account upgraded, but it certainly won't start until tomorrow, and it may be a few, you know, like another day in addition for them to provision it, et cetera.

21:57 Okay, this is not gonna work. Willow goes and she's going crazy trying, and you know, Willow's a technologist, so, and she speaks Italian, she understands the issue, so she's working on it. She calls me back, alright. Oh, by the way, at this point my Vodafone data has expired, so, you know, now, you know, we're talking on crappy cell phone connections. She said, okay, I've found one store that's open, It's the WINS store, W-I-N-S. And that's a mobile virtual network operator. So it's just one of those outfits, one of those little stores in the street. And I talk to them and you can get 20 gigas. And I talk to them and you can go there right now and they'll take care of you. I'm like, oh my God, you're a godsend. So it's about a 15 minute walk. I go there, walk in the store.

22:52 These guys, first of all, the three people, and I, again, I have compassion, but they're assholes. They just hit the, blah, blah, blah, blah. I said, yeah, I'd like the 20 gigas. No, no, no, two gigas, two gigas. No, no, my sister called me, and no, two gigas. Okay, hold on one second. If I call Willow, Willow, please. Sounds like you're in the Middle East at some bazaar. This is how, I'm- Negotiating over a pig. This is a pretty accurate description. So Willow gets on the phone, all I hear is, then Willow says, yeah man, I'm sorry, it's bull crap. You can only get the 20 gigas if you are a citizen, have a residence, have a bill with your address on it. Yeah, oh yeah. So I say to the guy, oh wait a minute, let me get this straight. You have another operation that for all practical purposes won't take your money. Correct.

23:50 Yes, but it gets better. I just want to make sure that's clear. It gets better. This is a great business opportunity here. They won't take your money. Okay, great. No gigas for you! So I say, hey, you know what? That's okay, man. There's no problem. Can I have 10 of the 2 giga cards? Well, hold on. Why not? Wait, they... So they won't take your money at that level either? I'll tell you why. One card, one document. Document? Yes, document. What are you talking about, Dan? Passport! Oh, okay! Did I get my passport? No, no, one card, one document! Uh, but what if I want two? Two documents! So, Tina's with me. So, okay, I can get two cards with two separate passports. I'm saying, why is this? Terrorism! Ah, I see. You have to register everything, and you can only get one SIM card per document.

24:55 And now I know I have four gigas. Oh, by the way, take three, five hour before it'll be provisioned. Because they're a mobile, they're a mobile virtual network operator. Like, okay, and now it's noon. So this is six hours ago. Okay, fine. I'll take it. I'll do whatever I can. I'll take whatever I can get. Maybe I can find somebody with a passport. I'm just, I'm like, ugh. So, and then, but I see next to the Wynn store is Tim. That's the Telecom Italia Mobile. They go in there. Now, it's exact, it's right, they're right next to each other. And there's a young woman, and she has client, what is it?

25:37 Oh man, it was like, oh client coach is her badge, client coach. And she speaks reasonable English and she's kind of happy and bouncy. And next to her is her colleague, he speaks pretty much no English, yeah, nice. But I'm standing there and there's five people in front of me, so this is 45 minutes. And just to give you an idea of how crazy some of this stuff is, there's a father in front of me, and he's American, and he is clearly trying to get some data for his daughter's iPhone. It's taking a long time, they're going through all this rigmarole and his passports and then paperwork. And then, you know, finally, oh yeah, I think it's working. His 15, maybe 15, 16 year old daughter walks in and she is, I can understand, you know, they went to Italy on vacation and the phone wasn't working. John, she was so happy that her phone was, she was shaking like a junkie. She had her phone.

26:44 She's on Instagram shaking like a junkie Insane all right, so it's finally my turn So what do you have? Yes, we have 30 gigas for 40 euro says Fantastic. Thank you so much. What yeah, so but hold on. We're not done yet. We're not done You better start wrapping it cuz it's getting I'm almost there But then, you know, while I'm getting my passport, she starts helping someone else, rudely. And then, you know, I'm dealing with the other guy, his terminal goes down. His terminal is working. And then she finishes up with the customer and she just helps three more people. I said, excuse me. No, no. I said, dude, would you get on her terminal, please? No, none of that. Long story short.

27:44 Another 50 minutes goes by and you know at a certain point She just walks out and you know kissing her friend and hanging out and whatever they finally get it all done okay, we're ready to go and he pops out the SIM card and I see him going to pop out the micro SIM. I said no no no no no And because this XCOM Global is, you know, uses the older big SIM card. The guy starts giving me shit. This is old! You need to throw it out! And he put the fucking micro SIM in there, and now we have to pick it out with a needle because it's stuck in there. And so around three this is. Well, how come you're online at all? Well, I'm just telling you that after all that,

28:36 We finally got the new SIM card on the, not the micro SIM, put it in and it's fantastic. It's 30 gigabits per second. And I look at my usage. It's not running at 30 giga, that's not what your speed is. Of course not. And that was right, so I probably used about six just for prep and will probably be about 15 by the time the show's uploaded. Why don't you know who this is from that one company? I forgot the name of already. Tim Telecom Italia. Tim is the one you want to go to make a to summarize. Yes, Tim, Tim, that and please note that you can only get one that could not get to Tina had already gone back. You cannot get to without two passports. They put it into the system. It's you know, they make a copy of your passport, they put it in the system. And I looked this up.

29:35 And these are regulations now that have been implemented since 2009. EU regulations. And I tweeted out, I said, you know, it's almost as hard to get a prepaid card here as it is to get a firearm. You should see the A-holes in Europe. That's not true. I'm fine. It is true. Anyway, we're online, very, very happy to be on, and if everything goes well, we should be able to finish this show. So indeed, if you are in Italy, Tim is the way to go. The provisioning is instantaneous because it's their network, obviously. So it's been very harrowing and a tough ride. Tough ride. Well, I can now say, I'm sorry I asked. Oh, it's important. These things are important for our listeners who travel around.

30:27 Talking about traveling around. Mm-hmm. I'm trying to think of what clip to start with but After this thing of this hair raising story, yeah, but and you sound good on this I know once you once you hooked up it's great and you know considering how much I paid at least a hundred bucks to T-Mobile at least 50 bucks for sprint 100 yeah, I'm gonna say it again You should demand your money back. I'm gonna do all that. I mean, that's not the most important thing. The show is the most important thing. I think it's to me. So there's a story that came, you know, talking about connectivity. I want you to listen to this story. This is about a prison escape. It's not normally something we'd cover, but I think this is worth covering because it ended up, the guy ended up in Austin, which I think is kind of, I've heard of it. Yeah.

31:20 eye catching. Well, let's play this story. This prison escape, I have it as prison escape dubious clip one. A South Carolina prison employee is out of a job today after an inmate escaped and took authorities on a 1200 mile chase. Jim Kazi was serving a life sentence at the Lieber Correctional Institute before making a high tech prison break on Independence Day. Tony DeCople has the story. Convicted kidnapper turned fugitive Jimmy Causey checked into this Motel 6 near Austin, Texas late Thursday, falling asleep three long days after he broke out of a maximum security prison in South Carolina. We believe a cell phone was used to facilitate and give this inmate the resources to escape. We also potentially believe that a drone was used to help him get the contraband in

32:12 to escape. Brian Sterling, the director of the South Carolina Department of Corrections, believes the drone delivered wire cutters which caused he used a slice through four fences on the evening of July 4th. He left a dummy in his cell to confuse authorities. This has been a long couple of days for the department. But at about 3 a.m. on Friday as Causey snoozed, Texas Rangers and federal authorities moved in, including Deputy U.S. Marshal Brandon Filla. Motel 6 left a light on, you know, and it helped us out. Authorities found Kazi with a shotgun, a handgun, four cell phones, a South Carolina ID, and $47,000 in cash. Kazi escaped once before in 2005 after hiding in a garbage truck, but it's newer technology like drones and cell phones that have authorities worried. Ha, drone. Good one. Okay, this guy leaves from South Carolina, he ends up in a Motel 6 in Austin, Texas.

33:14 Yeah, I mean this guy and he's escaped before he's one of those guys and I like that I like the native ad they left the light on that was good. Yeah, I saw that yeah, I heard that too. It is CBS. Yeah CBS has a lot of problems as usual. I mean, I have some clips later in the show which indicates, you know, this is their, you know, kind of presentation where they leave interesting facts out. For example, that piece started with the prison guard is now out of a job and then they go on and on with the story. What, who, why, what? What about this prison guard out of a job? Why? Did the prison guard fly the drone? I don't know. We don't find any of this out. And we don't even know if that's really true. That's probably just a throwaway line they put in there.

33:55 Maybe maybe not you don't know. I don't know but I'll tell you this much this guy has been chipped ah He doesn't know it, but he's been chipped there is no way that they find him in a motel 6 and Austin from in Austin from South Carolina You'd have to keep and they all do well unless did he have the cell phone with him? He had three cell phones Hmm. They said they had three cell phones of a well where to get all that money Well, there's a lot of craziness in this story and talk about his money if we got the money $47,000 why motel 6

34:38 I don't, there's a lot of questions that are unanswered in the story, obviously. But I think he's, I'm absolutely convinced he's been chipped because this guy broke away once. And what do you do? You gotta go in for a medical thing, you know, you gotta be checked out and who knows what they did to him, but they did something. There's no way this guy's gonna get caught that quickly. Just not possible. I mean, who knows?

35:19 Which has nothing to do with the basic story, it's just some commentary at the end that is to me extremely questionable and it kind of relates to your little episode here in Italy. prisons. And is the Federal Communications Commission granting it? Not so far. Under a decades-old law, they say only federal agencies have that permission and cell companies themselves say they don't want to change because it'll weaken their networks. Wow. Tony DeCoppo, thank you. Ah, net neutrality. By the way, at the end she goes, wow. Wow. Did you hear that? I'm sorry, I stepped on her ear. Wow. Wow. Change because it'll weaken their networks. Wow. Tony DeCoppo, thank you.

36:07 How's it going to weaken the network? Another unexplained factoid from CBS. I mean, I'm asking you. I don't know. You've got to do enough rigmarole recently that you could explain it. I don't know, man. So you put a jammer in the vicinity of the place and this is, you know, these things are obtainable. And so you get the jammer working and so It's gonna weaken the network. How's it gonna weaken the network? It's only a local device. It only jams it within its range. It's got a range. I really don't know. Just to me, it's just like bad reporting. Of course, you couldn't really explain any of this. And they're not gonna talk about chipping the guy, that's for sure. But anyway, I just found that... I got very annoyed by just a few of these CBS reports. Yeah. I did have a...

37:00 Pretty good time following the G20 while we were here. I have a couple of G20 backgrounders, but what have you heard that... Maybe I'm thinking I should play these backgrounders because I don't think what you're hearing is what we're hearing. I'm sure it isn't. So I'd love to hear what you're hearing and then I can pass on some of the things I'm hearing. Because what we're hearing mostly, and it's just like, I might want to do this backwards. Playing the stuff that I would put at the end of this report. Including, they had this woman Ruth, I can't remember her last name. It's like Inception. Yeah, it's going to go backwards. Ruth took over from Shields with the Shields and Brooks thing. And she's a WAPO writer. WAPO, WAPO, WAPO.

37:51 Yeah, let's see where is this thing? I like how you boo you not only did you want to do the clips backwards? But you even said shields and Brooks. I mean that was very very subtle Very subtle. Yes, that was subconscious, but it was very subtle. So here is Ruth from the WAPO. She's substituting for Shields. And we're going to we're now going to talk about the handshake. Oh, yes. Between Putin and Trump. And here's what here's her take on it, and if this isn't the most bigoted thing you've ever heard and lacks objectivity to an extreme Maybe you can find a better example. Okay. I just need to Weird or Wapo substitute for shields that reach re g20 that one

38:39 Yeah, okay. President Trump to say, and I understand we have diplomatic niceties, it is not an honor to be with someone who has attacked and jailed dissidents and killed dissidents in his country, who has invaded other countries, and who has tried to interfere in an American election. And I think that simply to accept that, oh, it's great, at least he raised the question of Russian interference, but we don't know and never will probably,

39:22 precisely what he said is really defining the presidency down. That should have been a given that he was going to raise that and that it wasn't a given they left us on tenterhooks and that the day before he was still saying well nobody really knows for sure what happened and seemed more eager to blame President Obama for not doing enough to question whether the intelligence community gets it right to tweet today about John Podesta, Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman, and say why didn't he turn over the server just really underscores to me the abnormality. Is it tender hooks, tinder hooks, or tinter hooks? I'm not quite sure what she said. She said tinder hooks.

40:09 I'm not sure what the right word is because I never use it. But I've heard it people use it. We're on there. That means we're all we are on edge. I know what it means. Whether Trump was going to ask him about the election. So I found that this to be one of the most bigoted things I've ever heard on by anybody on the PBS NewsHour. She's just goes after all kinds of assertions that are not unproven. And all Trump said was, hey, it's an honor to meet you. What is it, the head of a giant country and he says it's an honor to meet you? That's a big deal. Oh my god! He said it's an honor and it's not! The guy's a murderer! Did you see this video that someone tweeted us from this bigdola victim about the handshake and the meeting? You must not have seen this. Is that the girl that goes nuts? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I have the clip. I have it, I have it cued up. Should I play?

41:07 Yes, first of all, okay play it. Did you cut it down because there's a lot of white space in there. Okay, just play it. Well, I will say probably what you thought too is I have a feeling it may be hoax. Did you get that feeling? Feeling? It's an obvious hoax. Well, then we don't have to play it. Then it's fine. No, we should play it because it's highly entertaining. Well, my Friday's ruined. It's absolutely ruined. I get up and I go and I turn on the news. First thing I see, first thing I see is Trump. Not my president, Trump. Shaking Vladimir Putin's hand. And I'm like, wow. You know? I mean, and then to top it off, not my president, taps Putin on the back. It was like a tap, you know? Where is your collusion, people? Like if you can't see that, seriously, if you can't see that, there's something wrong with you. There's something seriously wrong with you.

42:17 I mean, I should be an investigative journalist because I and then like not my president was looking at Putin and he started blinking. He was blinking at him. And then Putin looked back at Trump and he was blinking at Trump and they were like standing there blinking at each other. It was like, oh my gosh, it's like, it's like more so that they're communicating there for 220. I feel so helpless, you know, like I wish I could stop it. Just my friend is just ruined. It's just my whole weekend through it now. Yeah, no here at the second time It's clearly bullcrap, but I thought it was good. I mean the giveaway is that her name I think it needs translation, but her name is red state rising. Oh, no it was I got mama reg2, but maybe I'm I got a different thing It's tenter I thought it was Oh tinter no I thought tenter tenter I

43:23 What is tenter? What is a tenter? A tenter hook stems from a device called a tenter. Originally large wooden frames which were used as far back as the 14th century for making woolen cloth. After a piece of cloth was woven, it had oil from the fleece and craftsmen had to stretch it out. But you had to be careful because you could rip it and that's why it's on tenter hooks. Which means it's, you know, it's a precarious process and you have to be very careful otherwise you can ruin the cloth. That's where it comes from. Yeah, okay. Geez I know wow wow I know anyway Anyway, the I did an ISO. Do you have the ISO there? Did it come through because I don't have it on my list Actress ruined Friday, but I don't know if that's I yeah, no, that's that's the full version. I don't see the ISO. That's all right Obama

44:20 Thanks Obama. I do have another way. Let's go. Let's go back to this woman. This was the Brooks and Shields and Brooks with the Brooks and Shields Ruth Yeah, so you just have to hear so they throw it to Brooks who who of course is supposed to represent the other side of the debate. Oh gee, let me guess And of course he doesn't because he hates Trump because it's kind of ruined his repute Trump is and all his predictions You know never worked out. So he's ruined his life according to him. Yeah, and So here's what he has to say after Ruth goes through her thing about how horrible Putin is and he should, it's no honor to meet a man like that.

45:12 Oh, God. Thank you. Thank you. Oh my goodness. Oh my- oh, here it is. There's something wrong with you. There's something seriously wrong with you. There you go. That's your ISO. Yeah, where was that? I can't find it. Wrong with you, ISO. Bottom of the list. There was but there was a lot there was I got one or two US media clips. I have other stuff, but there was a huge obsession over the Merkel and Trump handshake again. I don't know if you caught any of that. That was not played. Here's CNN. You mentioned the awkward moments, Jeff, in between. We're showing right now live pictures of protests. And just let this sink in for a second, please. So I will say that the handshake between Trump and Putin, there's no CNN or Fox here that I could receive, but I have Deutsche Welle, RT,

46:07 I don't have Sky, BBC, Al Jazeera, everything but CNN and Fox. And they all had the handshake close up. It was the image in the background. I mean, there was a lot. They weren't talking about it in the way that we heard the WAPO woman. Are these people nuts? Yes. Go on. No, that's not the answer. The answer is... There's something wrong with you. There's something seriously wrong with you. Here's CNN obsessing over the Trump and Merkel handshake. You mentioned the awkward moment. And we need to remind you that when she came to DC, they did shake hands, but not when the press said, shake hands, shake hands in the Oval Office. Jeff, in between, we're showing right now live pictures of protests in Hamburg. Some 10,000 people on the streets there. Would have been largely peaceful protests. But we also saw pictures of the handshake.

47:00 today between President Trump and the German Chancellor. And yes, they did shake hands, which is something that's been pointed out to me not just on social media but directly by some supporters of President Trump. They think, you know, it's significant. It is notable that the body language this time, the pictures are up right now, they note, better, different than perhaps we had seen in the initial meetings between the President and the German Chancellor. Do you get the sense that the White House Was preparing for this cares about the optics of the meeting between these two leaders? Now pay attention. He's going to say something and the control room is going to talk in his ear.

47:35 cares about the optics of the meeting between these two leaders? Sure, I think the White House absolutely cares about the optics of this. We've seen several sort of handshakes go awry. The one that was sort of the worst between these two leaders came in the Oval Office a few months back when they simply did not shake hands. But in this instance, this afternoon, I am told that she... I'll do the control. I may don't have my control room thing. I'll try oh She initiated this handshake here, so yes optics always matter in this case I think we probably make more of them now in the age of social media than we used to Moments here, but it's what's that?

48:22 No, they do. Who's we? Social media, man. Social media. It's not them, it's social media. But listen to the obsession. There are always awkward moments here, but it's the substance of this meeting. They have so many disagreements, John, that really will be an issue here for these two countries going forward. You know, Jeff, we just saw the video again. We all can confirm that yes, she did seem to initiate the handshake. So it's who initiated the handshake. Wait a minute, hold on. Stop, stop. If you just listen what the guy said, there's so many disagreements, they don't even bother discussing the disagreements and they cut back to the other guy who says, oh we got a close-up and look, look, look. The handshake, what, this is not important. Who initiated it? She initiated, not him, she. What a douche. John, that really will be an issue here for these two countries going forward.

49:10 You know, Jeff, we just saw the video again. We all can confirm that yes, she did seem to initiate the handshake. Stop! We have confirmation. Confirmation, everybody. We got confirmation. She initiated confirmation. Breaking news. Breaking news, everybody. We have breaking news. In the war, in the... Her hand went out first. Outreach. Physical, literal outreach from Germany to the United States. But we aren't her... physical outreach from Germany to the United States, hands across America. Bolton confirmed that yes, she did seem to initiate the handshake. Her hand went out first. Outreach, physical, literal outreach from Germany to the United States. But we are in her hometown, her home country, John, so it seems sort of hospitable that she would be someone to do that. So I don't find that that strange. What analysis. Yeah. Douchebag. Now I've got to put this, since I'm playing my clips backwards. Yes.

50:01 Next on the list is something that I can because I can comment on some CNN stuff that I don't have recorded But I do have this and I want you to pay a little attention This is a body language expert and there was a bunch of them that came on here and there but this guy was I believe on RT so we know it's gonna be it's gonna be slanted but this is the Trump Putin body language clip I saw this I think that isn't as the Russian president appeared to strike a pretty similar facial expression as a fictional Kremlin boss Viktor Petrov, body language expert Darren Stanton broke down for us a bit more what all this gesturing means. There was an interesting interaction between President Putin and Trump. I think they were sat around a table, and again, they shake hands, but this time we noticed President Trump sort of pat President Putin under the arm, which was quite an odd gesture. But that, again, is a power gesture to almost say that, you know, we're here, but I'm still the powerful man. You know, I'm still the head on show, so to speak. So I think, you know, although I think the two men have got mutual respect for each other,

51:01 I think this little, what we call leakage, these little leakage gestures that I see between the two men, especially from President Trump, that he still wants to be seen as very much the top man. And also I saw some footage where both men obviously sat side by side. President Trump has got this, what we call a reverse steeple gesture. with the hands and that's again confidence and dominance and then we also see President Putin with his legs sort of quite spread apart and again that is a very classic dominance gesture. He's mansplaining! I'm sorry, manspreading.

51:38 Jesus, I mean was there anything discussed people was there anything of interest at all? We don't know that. Now so CNN had their body language on it and said exactly the whatever that guy said. Everything was the opposite and it went like this. Trump put his hand out, but his hand was on the bottom of the handshake and and Putin's was on the top This was a sign of submission by Trump. Can I see an end? I just say something about that because the thing I like about Trump he shit he always offers an open hand That's actually anybody expert body language X will be tell you exactly the opposite of what that is. That's no That's how what CNN says has been submission and you know this guy did say you went and he tapped up

52:21 Putin on the on the underarm, you know, you know a lot of guys they shake your hand and they slap you or whatever Yeah, and you know give you a slap on the shoulder So that according to the CNN person this guy says the sign of dominance The CNN person said it was a sign of submission and it was it was a sign of giving Putin the floor You can have you can rule me Every single thing that Trump did and then they went to the one and wait CNN claims Trump is a bottom. That's pretty much what they're saying Yes. That's nuts. And so then the woman is a woman and they go to the way Trump sits in a chair that we've discussed. Yes. Trump sits in a chair a certain way because he's fat. Yeah.

53:06 And he's covering it up because he slouches forward, he covers up his big gut, and he puts his hands on his arm. It's just a big fat guy's... Although I will say, even though he has the fat guy issue, he has stopped with the tie covering. I think Melania finally said, yo dude, you got it, I mean, you're fat, okay? But we're not going to be wearing these ties that are 10 feet long. Well, I thought the tie was still long. It's still long, but it's not what it was. Well, yeah. Anyway, so he's sitting there with the fat guy thing and the woman says, the CNN person says, this is the sign of total submission to Putin. Oh my God.

53:48 It's unbelievable. And the other guy, of course, this guy, the guy on RT says it's a sign of they're both trying to be manly because they're both like the way they're seated. And then Trump has his, I guess it's the Masonic thing. He calls it something, but Masonic sign. Nobody ever says that. Well, it's an Illuminati sign and Merkel does it the most. Merkel does it all the time. Yeah, a lot of people do it. And uh... Well, only the Illuminati, John. It's just beyond me. CNN is out of control. Yeah. Well, they have no ratings, so who gives a crap? Although... They're having fun. Although I'll say, I don't know if you saw this meme going around. It was like, look at CNN's ratings. They're beneath...

54:33 TLC and Home and Garden, you know, house shows and children programs. But if you look... Home and Garden, by the way, is a butt kicker. Most of the cable channels are underneath Home and Garden. But we're really talking... Home and Garden is like... Yeah. We're talking a tenth of a ratings percent. It's not the absolute numbers, you morons. You know people send this to me. Oh, man. I don't know how ratings work, but wow CNN is you don't know how they work don't Yes, thank you. Thank you now. I do have Some audio of the meeting I don't think anybody had the audio of the meeting when they for when they when the handshake took place Did you hear what they were saying? I can't remember it. Yeah, well you can't because your favorite thing happened oh

55:25 Now listen at the end for the handshake. Here we go. Trump apparently said something about it. about the tweet he says there's too many why can't they give it what is the what's the point of all this noise of all these shutters now I proof that we're Trump Defense League man shit I wish he wouldn't do that yeah I know it's ruining our reputation yeah ruin our rep

56:08 Well, here's the only going backwards again. We'll go right to the beginning which is the this is the CBS G20 miscellaneous report Sorry Korean nuclear threat has been hanging over this summit did the president make any headway there? Not with Russia and there was an open concession that progress with China so far has been no better than mixed Secretary of State Tillerson said neither country view the North Korean threat with the same level urgency as the US, forcing the administration to adopt what it calls a campaign of peaceful pressure. When Tillerson conceded, it will require some degree of patience. Margaret, Mr. Trump also met today with the President of Mexico. That relationship got off to a rocky start.

56:52 What came out of today's meeting? Well, Mexico announced that talks to begin renegotiating NAFTA will start next month. That's the free trade deal that President Trump has called unfair. But as you said, the news is that the meeting happened at all because Peña Nieto had called off a prior White House visit after President Trump insisted that Mexico pay for his proposed border wall. Asked today about it. Trump said that is absolutely still the plan. Major, this was the president's second foreign trip. What did we learn about Trump-style diplomacy? Well, that American security is paramount. On economics, that means a hard line on trade. On terrorism, that means more than just tactics and arms

57:35 Before we left Amsterdam, my Hans, he's the kid I grew up with when I was nine. He was my neighbor. We grew up together. Hans was at my 50th birthday party, but we really don't see each other every 10 years or something. He lives in Spain, in Sitges, which is about half an hour south of Barcelona. He had not met Tina. How did you pronounce that? Barcelona.

58:23 Pretty good, huh? Yeah, pretty good, huh? Sitges too. Barcelona. And so this is after Thursday's show and we're still sick, you know, we're much better, thank you for asking, but we're still kind of sick and we're leaving the next morning early. And, you know, he said, oh, it's good to see you. And then I was waiting for it. He said, boy, Adam, you've really become right wing. I'm like, now, you know what it doesn't, I love Hans and he loves me. Not a problem. And I said, well, you know, I don't think things are black and white. Sometimes people are, you know, you're not red or blue or right or left. No, no, no, no, no. You're, you're very right wing. And, and then here's the interesting thing, you know, it's like,

59:10 He hates Trump, hates right-wing Republican, you know, I guess Republican, but right-wing. He never used Republican, he said right-wing. But then in the same conversation he says, gee, I really hope Trump kicks North Korea's ass, kicks that a-hole's ass. Okay, you hate Trump, but you want him to kick North Korea's ass. Okay, and then he's like oh man and those Catalanians Those a-holes. I'm glad we have a right-wing government in Spain who are kicking their ass. I'm like shit Wow, man, do you hear yourself? This is the cognitive dissonance that we talk about on this show and how unhealthy it is. It's an amygdala, enlarged amygdala, for sure, for sure enlarged amygdala. And it was just really bizarre. Let me see, I had one more, I had another note here. Oh, and then the kicker, the kicker. He said, did you see Juncker in the European Parliament?

1:00:09 You know, this is the clip that we played on Thursday where he said, I'm never coming here again. Hans is like, Juncker was great. That was so spot on. I'm like, wow, I really don't understand how you see that from exactly the opposite way. He said, yeah, the European parliament sucks. Yeah, because they have no power. And you think these unelected douchebags are the way to go? Yeah, and again, you know, the proof that everybody is so freaked about, you know, it's really worked, this North Korea theater has really worked on the Europeans. Very, very interesting to me. I thought it was interesting in the last report, the last clip, if you listen carefully, and I rang the bell. Yes.

1:00:58 They said that Russia and China don't see North Korea as that much of a threat that they should get all worked up and do whatever Trump wants them to do. Exactly. And that to me is the key element because if you think about it, If North Korea is gonna blow something up, what's the two countries, two of them, actually there's three including South Korea, that are most likely to get, feel the damage? Yeah. Hello? China? China. And Russia? Russia. They're right there, there's no distances. Yep. We're across the Pacific Ocean. I got a note, a family newsletter from Aunt Meg, and, um,

1:01:36 It was their wedding anniversary, and so they sent a little family email. And then she talks about Don, and the line was, we are outraged by this president. particularly his stance on North Korea, as Don has been saying for 20 years, they are not suicidal. They will not attack us. All they want to do is talk. And to me, I immediately thought, you know, because they're 87, 88, they had, you know, they watch PBS NewsHour. They watch Shields and Brooks and the Wapowoman. This is their information. They read the New York Times, the Washington Post. This is what they're getting.

1:02:17 And I think it will be very interesting to see when, I believe, Trump will go and talk to North Korea and he'll calm everything the F down. I think that's a possibility unless of course he's talked out of it. Yeah, that would be very sad. Well, it could be. Because, you know, it looks like a business. This is a business. The business is to keep everything on edge so we can sell stuff billions of dollars worth of crap to North South Korea and then keep an eye on China from South Korea. It's all very important I do have a couple more notes from g20 because there was Very little really about policy or you know and not too much about handshakes than you know what you were seeing What we saw mostly was riots. We saw all the riots non-stop every channel just and

1:03:07 Crazy, crazy. Yeah, you got something for me? How did they... I don't have anything on the riots, but I mean, I watched them. The way they were... There's only one good descriptor of the riots, and I want to know if you caught this one too. And I think it was either on RT... I don't know where it came from, but one of the descriptors was anti-capitalist riots. Yes, yes, yes, exactly. And here's what I don't understand. So they were saying this is the G Trump. That was their main thing. Oh, there's T-Mobile calling me. I can't talk to you now. I'm doing a show. Don't you guys listen? It's John Legere. He's probably calling me personally. We can get you an extra gig. Jigga. Jigga. Jigga. Get you an extra jigga, Mr. Curry. They were calling this the G Trump as in not G20, but it's all about, and it was, you know, they were protesting Trump and,

1:04:06 It makes no sense. If you're anti-globalist, then you can't be anti-Trump. It's not the same thing. He is anything but a globalist. He doesn't want to be in the Paris Accord, wants to be much more isolationist than everybody would want him to be. And these, of course, they're the Schwarze Bloc. They are the Black Bloc. They Soros funded outfit just to make a bunch of these guys are wearing Calvin Klein underwear and Nike shoes. Oh way to go anti capitalist. They stole the entire contents of an Apple store, which is really dumb because that's easy to track. But but that is dumb. A buddy of mine is there and he's there with some US General. He said the cops.

1:05:03 They were, they were, the weapons that were being used against the cops were slingshots with 9mm steel balls. There's pictures of cops with holes, I mean serious holes in their bodies. One of them lost an eye. And of course none of them were allowed to shoot, although I do understand that Friday night they did shoot at a few of these... These a-holes. And they're the same guys you see in Berkeley. It's the same outfit, same uniform, same ammo. Bill de Blasio, the mayor of New York, after one of his cops was shot dead in an ambush, he decided to bag the mourning or the funeral and go protest with the anti-capitalists. What?

1:05:46 You didn't hear that, did you? No, no, no, I didn't hear any of that, no. Wow. Yes, Bill de Blasio, New York City mayor, went to Hamburg to protest with the anti-capitalist protesters. Great. Why is this guy even the mayor? Well, there you have it. That might be a great question. It's funny because there was some... It was a friend of mine or somebody who made the same weird error, which was they're anti-globalist, anti-Trump because Trump's a globalist. No, he's not. I know he's not. He's not a globalist at all. He ran on an anti-globalist platform.

1:06:27 Now, there is... This again, cognitive dissonance. It's unbelievable how bad it's gotten. There is some good news and a great business opportunity that came out of the G20 for us. I would say for me or any of our No Agenda producers in EU. It's very, very opportunistic. I'm very happy about this and it's thanks to Theresa May and Ivanka Trump and I'm very excited about it. She did her little speech, and if you ever noticed that... I didn't clip it, but pay attention to Theresa May. She's always doing A to Z when she talks something. From the richest people to the poorest, from the right to the left, from C to shining C, she's always doing the two, you know, from Beethoven to Wagner. What's it called?

1:07:14 Inclusive contrasting. Inclusive contrasting, interesting. What is the theory behind that technique besides annoying? I don't know what the theory is. I never... She's the only one I know that does it excessively. It has something to do with bringing everybody... Oh, everybody's... I guess it's saying that this covers everything. Well, it does. It's pretty broad. So she is asked a question by some, of course, about the misogynist Trump. We all know he's a horrible grab-by-the-pussy person. But then something came out of this that I'm very excited about. What did you make earlier with Donald Trump talking about women's empowerment? Is that slightly ironic when you consider some of the sexist remarks he's made in the past? And when can we look forward to welcoming President Trump to Britain? Well on the last point, we don't have a date yet. We're still working on a date for when he will be making that visit. But on the first point, we've actually done some important work here on the whole question

1:08:08 of women's empowerment. First of all this morning we launched the Women Entrepreneurs Financing Initiative. The UK is contributing to that as are other countries from the G20. That was an initiative that was actually very much developed by a Ivanka Trump and worked with the World Bank on that and I think that's an important initiative because it makes good sense not just for women's themselves, not just for society, but actually it's good economic sense to ensure that the talents of everybody in a population are being used and this is I think hugely important for developing economies and we certainly support that as we have done in our own development aid work as a United Kingdom we've put a huge emphasis on

1:08:51 on financing going to projects that involve women and girls. Particularly, obviously, ensuring girls' education. I am so happy. Since I identify as a woman, there's free money. Free money! I'm so happy I identify as a woman. This is fantastic. You should just get that money. I'm very excited. On a quick side note, one of our producers sent me a very interesting piece of information about the pink pussy hats. And I've had any- we should have figured this one out immediately. Pink pussy hats are ageist and racist. You know why? Who are they ageist?

1:09:34 Vaginas are pink on white women, but not all women have pink vaginas. There are shades of brown and purple, some are almost outright red. Some can get looking kind of gray or blush. And after a woman has a baby, the color changes towards being darker, though it can shift back to closer to the original color after some years. Pink vaginas assume a young woman who has not had kids who is white. How's it age? Oh, that's how it's ageist? I guess. I think if you're going to take a broad look at these monikers, yeah. Might as well. Yeah, sounds good. Well, I mean, Madonna had a black one. Enough said. And that's not the first time.

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1:12:30 Let me just put this in because I would remember her birthday. I can't remember anything like this. You finally remember her name. That's a good start. Let me see. It was a great thing. Yes. Let me thank you for both your hard work and value that you provide me personally and professionally. Oh, that's nice. I don't know what he does, but apparently it helps him professionally, which I think is good. I stopped watching M5M some time ago and rely on your bi-weekly summaries and the great work of producers to be aware of global events. Wow. We're like sole source here. We have to be responsible. Very responsible. As other listeners have also experienced engaging in thoughtful discussion with individuals and professionals that rely on M5M and social media for their information, wonder how I am so knowledgeable on important issues.

1:13:19 Indeed you save me time and keep me informed hence value for service rendered nice. Thank you Yeah, please send some special karma to all the cancer patients their families and caregivers It's not only physically emotionally spiritually and financially draining disease a draining disease But but it's more common than most over three years in our household. Oh geez it's horrible those We'll give him a little cancer karma. And we'll thank him for the kindly saving us. Saving the day. Just in time. Sir Rob Alter, meanwhile, $333 came in and said, I will go to the cursor, which is floating around here somewhere. There it is.

1:14:19 I happily realize that this donation brings me to Viscount! Woo! And form my significant other of this great accomplishment by announcing I am your lord and sovereign. Feast thy eyes upon my glory and know that Sukor is at hand. She replied, whatever. Also, I know Adam is planning a trip to Australia. Do you know if he has finalized his trip yet? He's right here. You can ask him. I will be in Sydney for a couple of months starting soon. I was wondering if there would be any overlap. We can coordinate this because we've delayed it until after the, certainly after the year for the Australian summer. It'll be too hot and too cold. So, and we were tired.

1:15:03 They're working on it. Yeah, we're working on it. We are working on it. We are working on it. It's also very expensive to be honest with you. Yeah, it's very, very expensive. Yeah. M or N Mason Conklin in Holly Springs, Georgia, 250-251. 250-251, it says neat. This donation, 250-251 should be read as two bits twice on the copper. 25 plus 25 plus one. Two bits, two bits is 25 cents, or what it is, 25 cents. And the copper is one penny. Also this donation made possible by the cryptocurrency Ethereum. I bought Ethereum at $12 last fall and sold this May at $350. These things are just... You know what he must have that day trading for dummies book.

1:16:02 It's unbelievable. A 2,916% return in less than nine months. Just saying. That's not money. This is what it is now. No, it's not. It's an investment. This is my second donation. I don't think it was properly de-douched for my first. Oh, I can do that. Hold on. You've been de-douched. So I have that way too fresh feeling. I humbly request an official deduction which you just got. I would like to call up my friend and colleague Matt Anderson. Douchebag! Who after hitting in the mouth in April says he's been listening but skipping the donation segments. In other words, he's skipping so he probably wouldn't even hear that.

1:16:48 Would it be possible to request an emergency program interrupt in the C-block to call him out as a douchebag? Yeah. Douchebag! Twice, why not? Anyway, I was blown away when you read, by the way, a lot of people say they skip these things, but they're so entertaining. Yeah, you miss all the good stuff. I was blown away when you read John Ossoff's resume, pretty much proving the hypotheses that he's a Langley guy. Can I get a spot the spook followed by Hillary is almost too delicious to believe and ending with whoopie classified. I don't remember that one. I do. Finally, can I get a karma and a new for a new web venture? Keep up the good work and please we all need episode 1001. Don't quit on us at the millennial episode. Mason and Holly Springs, Georgia. A spot to spook, spot to spook. Everybody wants to spot the spook. It's almost too delicious to believe my friend.

1:17:53 You've got karma remember now Yeah, yeah, I do remember now. It's funny all right here. We go Convey did I get a note from him? I do have a note for me. I haven't may have to go dig it up in the In the email box yeah, anyway Ron Convey and Lincoln at Nebraska $240 and 24 cents and I will go into here and search for Convey Leave oh wait. Oh, no. I'm sorry. That's I got a Gary Convey I don't have Ronald. No. There's no run is he didn't he said it is a note He just sent a check in as well as in gray like I got a note here. It's a real note Crackpot and buzzkill my millennial son hit me in the mouth several months ago, and now that I'm finally donated I need a de-douching here we go You've been de-douche

1:18:54 Okay, get the douchebag call-out button ready. I also hit a buddy of mine in the mouth a few months ago, but since I haven't heard of any donations coming from my son or my buddy, I would like to call out Grant Convey. And Brad Jezuski as douchebag. We're all avid listeners of the program and we often compare notes about the wonderful media deconstruction that you do. Keep up the good work. Can I get a house selling buying karma, a wailing Yoko Ono for my son Grant and resist we much?

1:19:37 for my buddy Brad. I look forward to someday being knighted. You can save Yoko for the end of the program if you want. Ron Convey, Lincoln, Nebraska. This is a triple boob donation. Also sent this note via email. It's possible. Yeah, okay. I think we got a short version that might make him happy. But resist, we much. We must and we will much about that. You thought karma. Onward to Don Mills $200.25. Good work John and Adam. Bingo. Boom. Bang. Sucka lucka.

1:20:25 Matthew Seaver, parts unknown, nighty, he says... Oh, is he gonna be a black knight? Yeah? Please refer me as Sir Raptor of the Sun Sphere. Sent my accounting in December but never heard my knighting. He is gonna become a black knight. I'm receiving night mail from the shill, so I presume I'm in. Thanks you guys for the continued sanity. Trim, is he on the list? Well, he's blue on the spreadsheet, yeah. But he doesn't say Black Knight. Well, I don't think... We have to make that decision and it's just been made. He's a Black Knight. Black Knight it is.

1:21:07 Sir Marcos Dracos of the Deep Thought, 200 bucks, our last associate executive producer. I'm sick that no one else has called you on this, but there is no single part of the brain called the amygdala. There are two. You guys get too many gushing compliments. You're good, but not perfect. I'm trying for executive associate producer, please play this guy. It's one of these guys. He's from Great Britain. He's complaining. He's complaining. I'm trying. You know, we have to look up amygdala and I don't care if it's two or one. It's just a thing. You are good but not perfect. Okay, we know that. We know that! I'm trying for executive associate producer. Please play Putin DWBH. I know what that is. Okay, two to the head, karma for all, Sir Marcos Dracos of Deep Thought.

1:22:01 Don't worry. Don't worry. You've got karma. There's something really, I mean, talk about your, you know, your, your cognitive dissidence and maybe for someone to say, you're not all that great. Here's some money. It's it's, it makes my brain. It makes my brain hurt make my brain makes my makes my amygdala's so we just say amygdala He said we're good, but not that good good whoever's no he says we get too much praise is what he said Oh, you can't go away. He's British Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah, he didn't say praise. He said we get too many worse He said you get too many goshing compliments. Yeah gushing gushing. We got a gusher We got we got a gusher on our hands

1:22:58 Alright, that seems to be it. And good news for all you who don't listen, the second segment will be very short. It's a little on the short side. Yeah, you can play it at double speed. So sorry it irritates you so much. I'm sure you would rather hear ads. We only have 9 donors above $50 and then we have another 9 at $50. I'm sure people would rather hear ads, John. This is so obvious. It's much better than donation segment. Please, I mean why? Why wouldn't you let us listen to some Don't want anything anything fun to listen to oh, that's not good. Well. These are our

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1:24:40 Just want to make a commentary and play these the removing monuments clips there You know they're still taking monuments down left and right you mean yes civil war monuments mostly But I'm suspecting, as I will say after clip two, I believe this is going to be taken further. But this play, removing monuments on CBS. In Charlottesville, Virginia today, a large crowd turned out for a counter protest against the Ku Klux Klan. The community is divided over plans to remove a statue of Robert E. Lee. As Paula Reid reports, the debate whether Confederate monuments are symbols of heritage or hate has been playing out across the South.

1:25:19 Charlottesville police were out in full force keeping the peace between the Ku Klux Klan and those who showed up to oppose them. It is a great sign for Charlottesville that we are ready to confront white supremacy, that we are ready to to ending oppression and making reparations? The Klan is protesting the city's decision earlier this year to remove this statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee from a public park that used to bear his name. On the eve of the Klan's planned protest, the statue was vandalized with red paint. Cities across the country are deciding whether or not to remove and in some cases replace Confederate symbols. Last month in St. Louis, a Confederate memorial

1:26:00 Yeah, it ends there. The city and the Civil War Museum. So this is a clan, oh the clan, the clan, the clan, the clan. And so we, part two reveal, how many clan members you think showed up? Play part two. Only a few dozen Klan members showed up to today's protest, even though their permit was for as many as 100. The Anti-Defamation League says the group has been diminished by infighting and high turnover.

1:26:37 Okay, so a couple guys showed up. I don't even think it was 25 and he said a couple dozen I don't just more like 15 right so this was a phony story Yeah, I'm the get-go, but but this what is doing is it's keeping in the public mind Oh, we got to get these statues down, and they're gonna take down I guarantee they're gonna start taking down other statues, and I I think the target is going to be Thomas Jefferson I believe Thomas Jefferson. Really? Yes. Huh. And I think it, well he's on the $2 bill and that's easy enough to eliminate. I think there's been an anti-Thomas Jefferson movement in this country for a long time and I think the movie about him screwing one of his slaves, he's a horrible slave owner and he had sex with his kids. Slave screwer.

1:27:22 He's a slave screw, he had sex. This is the classic example of, you know, we talk about sexual harassment, you know, where you, a boss harasses a secretary until she has sex with him. And sexual harassment is a big deal. And this is the worst kind of sexual harassment. He's a horrible person. I want to point out that in the play Hamilton, Jefferson is portrayed as a jerk who should have no respect whatsoever. And this play is extremely popular with liberals. And how does that fit in with the Hamiltonians versus the Jeffersonians? How does that all play out in the big world? I don't know about that.

1:28:07 I don't know how that plays out, but whatever the case, I think Jefferson will be the first target. And they're going to start taking everything they can down because this is part of the globalist agenda, which is another thing that kind of surprises me. The globalist agenda is to rewrite history, make America, especially the founding of this country, trivialize it and make it was just a bunch of jerks that put this country together and Jefferson is the best example. Jefferson supposedly wrote you know half the Constitution he's a jerk. While screwing a slave. So let's get rid of the Jefferson references because he's a jerk and so is then what turns out Washington is to everybody all jerks that found this country. This reminds me of a tweet that was done by one of the Wayne brothers who said just some disparaging thing about Independence Day was just a white supremacy thing of nonsense. Well, this is where it's headed. Well, John, this whole country was built on slaves. Slaves built our country.

1:29:07 Once this Robert E. Lee, they did, at least in the South, once Robert E. Lee is being taken down for, I don't know what the reasons are because he was a great general for all practical purposes, then it's gonna just go, it's gonna get worse. They're gonna start rewriting history and the people like that girl that was cited in the first report, first clip, she's going on about reparations and fairness and all that nonsense. You know, kind of following on with that. Anyway, Jefferson, put him on the, I'm putting it in the Red Book. Yes, put it in the Red Book. Following on with that, the war on men continues. I didn't realize it, you know, this whole Silicon Valley bro culture thing that's going on. Yeah. Do you know that in the New York, I don't know if you saw that New York Times article, is Mark Cantor that they're going after? Mark Cantor? Did you know this?

1:29:59 No, yeah, Mark Cantor because he sent Mark and he was on one of my boards way back in the day. Mark. Yeah, I know Mark very well. He's a he's a loud, raucous guy. He's loud. He's a loud. He's a lie. Yes, he's a loud, boisterous. Boisterous. Very good. I mean, he had a he had a success of Macromedia, which he sold then. Yeah, and then you know, and that later became Adobe. Yeah, Adobe. Then his ex wife got, you know, half the money and she saved it. No, she got all of it from what I can tell. No, no, I know Mark. Whatever money Mark had, he spent, you know, he spent on trying to media band was his thing. Man, he's but he's a sweet, lovely guy at the heart. Would you agree?

1:30:44 I would say at the base of Mark, yes. He has, uh, there's, I've always liked the guy. I mean, he went off on you. Yeah. This was during a period. It was at a dinner. This was, uh, he was an alcoholic, I guess for a while. And he went to AA or something and became very anti-alcohol. So we're at this big dinner and he's sitting across from me and we're drinking wine and he starts chewing me out for, drinking anything. Well, he has his issues, but he's entertaining and he's in his heart. He's a sweet guy. That's the way I know him. But he got called out by Wendy Dent in this article.

1:31:23 because he had said, oh, I'll try and help you. Now Mark has no power, no money, no nothing. It just doesn't. He had to go to- He lost his reputation. You're right. That's gone. And he was in Ohio. He was for years because he was starving in Silicon Valley and he had to take a job in Ohio. He was gone off the radar. He comes back and apparently in the New York Times, Wendy Dent, I don't know who Wendy Dent is. She sounds familiar. She said that Mark, Mark said, I'll try and help you hook up with someone or try and get a meeting together, which is what, I'll do that for anybody too. But then he sent her an email like, you're like a sorceress, you have me enchanted. And now he didn't do anything. That's it, emails. He sent her a compliment.

1:32:18 At least by his standards. Now he's not working for anybody so you can't get him on that. He's not like, and she doesn't work for him. So what she said, so this was just a social, awkward compliment to a reporter who I guess took offense. And she's a reporter? Wendy Dent is a reporter? Oh, I don't know. That's what I thought you indicated was Wendy Dent of the New York Times. I don't know who Wendy Dent is. This is, no, Wendy Dent was in the New York Times. This is the article about women, the article that brought down Dave McClure. I misunderstood what you're talking about. This is the article. So she, okay, yeah, now you got me confused. Why did she want him to help her get names or something? What was he, what was she up to? I'm going to see if I can, she wanted a, like a meeting or something. And he said, oh no, I can probably help you out.

1:33:16 Which is typical Mark. But then the helping out became an email exchange where he said, you know, hey, you know, I'm, uh, you're, you're enchanting me. And so Mark Hanter, who as you accurately point out, all he has left is his reputation, is excoriated for this, you know, he didn't do anything physically. Is it creepy? Yeah. The creepiest part is apparently He proposed a threesome with someone, I don't know if it was Wendy Dent, and Lisa Cantor. Which, wow. I don't have to say anything. You understand why I'm saying wow. It's just like- It reminds me of the New Yorker cartoon where the wife and the husband are in bed and the wife says, yeah, I think a threesome's a great idea, but not with you. That's poor Mark. I don't know, I just feel really bad for him.

1:34:13 So he just sends some innocuous, okay. But I have received... It doesn't sound like... Okay, we can't even talk to women anymore, so we might as well just give up. And I have received feedback, most women who are very honest agree that if a guy who does something like that is a good looking guy, then it's not so bad. Yes, this was the... Eliza Schlesinger line that we discussed in the last show or the show before yes where she went on about this And she said you know if the guy's a good-looking guy. Yeah, you know it's fine. No not no now So you have to rate yourself the guys do yeah one level of creepiness and the end age age and make it It should know how to rate yourself accurately accurately Before you say anything to a woman now

1:35:05 Hey, nice lipstick. I like that color. Yeah. Oh, you pig. No, I like your idea is still the best. What are you all gussied up for? That's the best. That's the best one. Gotta get on their case. Speaking of hot or not guys, we were talking about Stephen Hawking. and his same old lame computer voice that he's using. And the reason I bring it up is because you said, well, he is, you know, a novelty lay. Just to use to use a kind of a friendly term. And your gentler word. And, you know, logically, we could have come up with this. But hey, we get gushing compliments that are unwarranted. Stephen Hawking has had ALS for 52 years. Unbelievable. I don't think so.

1:35:56 And there's a number of very well-written articles and they're in the show notes, 945.noagendanotes.com. Well, it's not ALS, doesn't he have... No. It's not ALS. Lou Gehring. Lou Gehring's disease. No, no, that's not what he has. What does he have? He has... what's that other thing? Multiple sclerosis? Muscular dystrophy. muscular dystrophy. Are you sure? Yeah, because he was a poster boy for the Jerry Lewis thing. I'm pretty sure. Let's see. Everything I got is ALS, but let's see. Let's see what the wiki. Let me need to... Ah, stop, stop, stop. Fire that producer. Oh, it's in Italian. Shit. By the way, talking about another complaint I have.

1:36:50 You know a lot of people including myself for various security reasons you use a VPN So if you're using a VPN and you're coming out of Montreal or you're coming out of Spain or you coming out? Doesn't mean you're there. Why do they make the assumption that you're there these oh, we've got it Oh, let's give them the Wikipedia in Dutch don't want it in Dutch Horrible okay, let me see if I can I can just change the IT to EN. Wikipedia does not make it simple to do that with the click of a mouse. Let's just see what it says here. Disability. Boom. Disability. ALS. Hawking's has a rare early onset slow progression form of ametrophot... ALS. Also known as motor neuron disease. Lou Gehrig's disease. That's the Wikipedia, John. I could be wrong.

1:37:52 Well, I was always on the impression and muscular dystrophy. Well, probably because you says this moment, this moment has changed my whole what has been tricked. Well, especially you, I can understand you logically thinking it could not be ALS because ALS, you pretty much die after a couple of years, 52 years old is a record 52 years with ALS. But if you look at these articles, his teeth are different. His face is different. It's not the same guy. And the only reason they're using that computer voice is that's the brand. And now it's logical to me that Stephen Hawking would never say, oh, if Trump keeps going like this, we hit the tipping point, we're all gonna burn up, it's gonna be as hot as Venus. Yeah, but do we know that that's a real quote from him?

1:38:38 Because anyone can say that with that computer voice. Well, that's my point. It could be a hoax. Yes, it's all a hoax. The guy is a hoax. No, what you're saying, you're saying that the whole thing's a hoax and you're using that particular moment to kind of use it as part of the rationale to leverage your hoax theory. But I'm saying that clip itself, by itself, is a hoax. Could be. Could be. I don't know. It's irrelevant. It's just a bridge to get to the he's dead thing. That's all. Okay, well it's an interesting theory. I never thought I never thought it must go to distribute I thought he was living too long with that yeah, let alone well if he goes to do 200 will know How old is he any what does it say you got the wiki there? What is how old is the guy? He's born January 8 1942 Okay, so he's 75 which seems pretty old that that wrecked. Yeah, what do we know huh?

1:39:36 We don't deserve the gushing praise. We would not know. I think the gushing praise thing you don't have to stay on. But speaking of... I like the word gushing though. Gushing is good. It's like we got a gusher. You guys are so great. I got an email. Snark, of course. Hold on a second. Let me just write that down. Where are we? That was 142. From the UK here we go hi guys quick update from England Shire I can confirm that I've looked out the window and the chip shop is still there how about those mud flats John? So you're playing the dark you that I saw it. Yeah, he says the chip thing is bullcrap my argument So let's play a guy here's the background or this is the first clip is it's just a little background This is the clip fish and chips

1:40:29 Fish and chips. They're a staple of the British diet since Dickens wrote about them in 1859. Now the greater Manchester city of Oldham was the location of the first fish and chip shop, or Chippy as we call them here. Chippy! Okay, that's our backgrounder. Now here's a clip of one of many. I sent him some links to some of these anti-fish and chips things. I think it's again, all these things to me always boil down to veganism. You can't have these kinds of food. Fish and chips and climate change. According to UK government scientists on Monday the traditional British meal of fish and chips may soon need to be replaced due to global climate change. Cod and haddock, two of the most commonly used fish for the popular dish, are shifting northward because of the warming sea temperatures.

1:41:24 According to Britain's Centre for the Environment, new species like squid and red mullet are moving into British waters from the south. In an interview with the BBC, John Pinnagher, the Programme Director for Marine Climate Change, said, I think people are slowly becoming more adventurous and I think people should learn to eat what we're catching around our own waters. In the long term, we will need to adapt our diets. So I guess, yeah, kind of silly. Silly, silly, silly. Speaking of climate change, there is news from the EU. We announce the end of the sale of petrol and diesel cars by 2040. I note, as a matter of fact, that this morning a European car manufacturer has just announced that by 2019, if I'm not mistaken,

1:42:27 There will be only electric vehicles on the market. I think it was one of the car makers that said we're going to sell all electric or Volvo. They came out. But then they, if you read the fine print, this is electric and hybrid. So that's a, what a death wish though. What a death wish. That's what I'm thinking. It's stupid. You know, we got it. We got that Elon Musk is the guy promoting this a lot of it. Oh, Elon! I want to play a play. I want to read from a TechCruncher, but this headline, take a look at the very first production Tesla Model 3 and listen to this crock of crap that I'm going to read this and just tell me this is bull crap. And this is written by, yeah,

1:43:27 It's here, the first ever production Model 3 has rolled off Tesla's, says of by the way, of Tesla's assembly line. Wait, wait, wait, wait, stop, that's an official release? No, this is a news article in TechCrunch. Oh, that's why. A news article, it reads like a press release. That's why, shit. It's TechCrunch. And into the possession of its owner, the first one has rolled off into the possession of its owner, Elon Musk. Oh, Elon. Now, it goes on, the founder and CEO tweeted pictures of the new vehicle, which he only got because the actual first pre-order customer gifted Musk his place in the queue as a birthday present. Are you kidding me?

1:44:16 The only reason Musk has this car is because somebody gifted it to him or gifted his spot in the queue. Why does that sound phony baloney to me? Does it really? Alongside the pics, Musk tweeted an interesting bit of trivia about who gets dibs. Dibs. the first I get this over on the first edition of any new Tesla car It's the first person who pays full price for the vehicle Musk earned earned must earned earned company He earned that honor for the roadster and the Model X but not for the Model S. He noted The first production Model 3 is in black and

1:45:02 A good callback, not an average callback, but a good callback to the original Model T from Ford, which famously came in any color you wanted as long as it was black. The Model 3 will have more paint options, but is one of the very few things customers will be able to customize on the vehicle as Tesla is limiting options early to ease the production process. Anyway, it goes on with this bullcrap. I mean if Musk wanted the first one he'd just take it. Although I have to say, you know, people, oh I got number, serial number somebody we both know has one of these deals. I got serial number 0004. I know who that is. Jason! Who cares? Did I hear that, um...

1:45:58 Did I read somewhere that the model 3 got a very didn't get like a super high safety rating and Like in California something like that hate hate it's hate Hate yeah, I'm sure it is here. They just kind of mix something in I'm just if I have it on this printout But there was something I thought was peculiar That was you know, that's like they try to pass this over Yeah, here it is as expected based on the prototype miles and early spy shots of the car It looks basically like a shorter model s but with similar sporty feel and a four-door sedan Musks big reveal didn't go long on technical details big reveal However, we'll steer it will we are still waiting on some of that info like the exact range beyond the minimum 215 miles spec

1:46:54 Right. That's not enough miles to do anything. I, um, you know, taxi Eric, did I tell you that he said, I'm thinking of, uh, getting a Tesla. So are you insane? Are you completely stupid? Did you take a stupid pill? See, you go to, you go to the airport twice. You got to recharge. Yeah, but supercharger. Okay. So what if, uh, someone like, I don't know, Adam says, Hey Eric, I need to go to Lexus house. It's an hour away. You won't be able to come back. There's no supercharger where he lives. People are taking stupid pills, John. Well, it's the right time to do it. To take the stupid pill? Yeah, you might as well. Oh my goodness.

1:47:47 And I was noticing, in fact I went and looked at the Tech Crunch because I was on it, and it's just like the articles are all, talk about gushing. I tell you right now, if that guy thinks people are gushing over our show, nah, they don't know what gushing is. I mean, you've never seen it. Nobody has any critical eye at all. They don't care. Oh, this is great! Yeah, and there's a technological issue that I bumped up against today, which is not great. And I knew it was coming, and now we see the shit hitting the fan. The HTTPS everywhere, let's encrypt. Okay, let me tell you what's happening. I have set up by myself a Mastodon server, noagendasocial.com.

1:48:31 And, you know, it took me a lot of effort, but I did it all myself. I didn't want to, you know, bother anyone with it. I didn't want VoidZero or Bemrose and these guys doing anything. They're busy enough. And then it's my experiment, let me see if I can get it working. It's been... It's been interesting. I've had to do upgrades and had issues, and the thing's been running fine for weeks. And today, it was like, it's broken! It's down! What's going on? So as a part of this install, You cannot install it unless you have a certificate, and the path that the install takes you down is through Let's Encrypt. Well, I didn't realize that every Let's Encrypt certificate—this is the HTTPS certificate for the website— every Let's Encrypt certificate expires after 90 days.

1:49:20 And there's ways you can make it, you can auto renew, but I've never had to deal with this. So, beside the fact that it's in beta and then you go, you do the command, let's encrypt renew and it breaks and you have the wrong version of Python. Once you see that wrong version of Python, you have two choices, kill yourself now or kill yourself in five minutes. But here's the real problem. It used to be when you had an invalid- Hold on a second. Why does it give a crap about the version of Python? I don't know. I can't get I can't answer that, but it used to be if you had a bad certificate, what would happen? You can go. You can say you can hit advanced on your browser and yes, and you can say add exception. Click, click, click. Yeah, that does not is no longer possible. Really? Yep, well, that stinks. Yes, yes, it stinks. It's exactly what they wanted and I warned everybody and obviously I'm always the one that gets screwed first.

1:50:25 Well, I'm sure other people have been screwed before you. Have you ever had a guy who just did? Yeah. No, sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. I was going to say, I just have a clip, but you had a continued thought. No, no, no, no, no. But I was actually on my way to another clip. I was transitioning. I'm in transition. I'm stopping for your transition. Your final clip. I got a couple of transitionary clips. I can play one of two. I have an ask Adam movie quiz. I have a clip from show 744 that I think would be interesting to relisten to this 200 shows ago Let's do the clip from 744. Okay, this is Louis Farrakhan kill them So if the federal government

1:51:13 will not intercede in our affairs, then we must rise up and kill those who kill us. Stop them and kill them and let them be of death that we are free. I don't remember. It sounds like a clip I might have had. No, it's one of my clips. I don't remember the context of it. About killing cops. Oh, it wasn't played much by much as much of the media CBS didn't even cover it. Huh it was a good one So that's kind of hateful Just a throwback clip may have been a genesis of a lot of stuff going on for all we know don't know well I have a question for you and ask John have you ever heard of the black budget I

1:52:10 I have the black budget to me always meant the CIA budget. This is from NPR's Planet Money about the black budget. Give me the black budget story. The black budget. I talked to Lindsey Kashgarian, who is the research director at the National Priorities Project and asked her what it is. So the black budget is a part of the federal budget that is devoted to national security. It's top secret. And Lindsey says that most of what we know about the black budget comes from the Edward Snowden leak in 2013.

1:52:58 Hidden? Off the books. So when you took your spreadsheets and spent a week trying to do the math for this show, all this stuff you're describing is not in those spreadsheets, it's not on those pie charts, it's secret money. It's secret money. Fantastic. So for all of this, do we know how much money the government spends? So before the Snowden leak we really had no idea But there was kind of an unofficial official number floating around of half a billion dollars. Okay, half a billion dollars How much do you think it is? They have another number how much do you think it is? Well, the real number seems to me to be at least 50 billion and maybe more and then the Snowden leak came out and we learned that it was a lot more than that it's about

1:53:41 $70 billion. Oh, that's profoundly more! $70 billion. That's about 2% of the budget. But, I mean, that number is from a few years ago, and to be honest, we really don't know how big the black budget is today. I'm surprised she didn't say gazillion. They do that on Planet Money all the time. Do they say gazillion? Oh my goodness. Yes. I think you know the other word that really bugs me. Uh, what is it? It was uh, Rachel maddow says it all the time. Uh, I have to think about it like because I reject some of these words humongous not humongous, but gymungus or something. She says ginormous ginormous ginormous. I hate that word. She says ginormous all the time.

1:54:40 It reminds me of Jigga Giga, but I really Jigga is Jigga is Jigga Jigga. Okay here. We go. Yeah here we go This is the ask Adam movie quiz III There's a reason why I said maybe not but okay go go for it. You know what the reason is I don't know Why you you would not want me to do this? Okay, just play it, you'll see it. Activating main screen. Ghost Rider helicopters have taken position. Operation Exodus is in effect. I'm supposed to- what is this? I'm supposed to know what movie this is? Is this the idea? Alright, alright, alright, I'll try it again. Hold on, hold on, let me go back. Here we go.

1:55:23 Activating main screen. Ghost Rider helicopters have taken position. Operation Exodus is in effect. Report any casualties. The time has come, finally, to put our technology to the final test. Commence hover attack. King Mega Buster. Prepare to fire laser cannon.

1:56:01 Switching plasma energy on. Plasma grenade port open. Firing plasma grenade. Fire! Okay. Now, I'll bet you there are listeners that know this movie. I know what this is. I know, I know, I know what it is. Of course I know what this is. You know what? This is obviously Godzilla vs. Mega Godzilla. Aha! Mecha, by the way.

1:56:42 That's why I didn't want you to do it, I couldn't remember the line! It's Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla 2. Oh, please. You are so dense, Dvorak. Alright, we're done. I couldn't remember the line. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. On No Agenda! You know, I knew you wouldn't remember the line, but that's why I put the punchline on this, on the Clips 1 email. Oh, I never read the email. Because you never have anything in there on the email. Well, I thought you might look at it. I mean, this was, the joke was of course, for the listening audience, this is one of our attempts

1:57:42 And we do these about... At a bit. At a bit. We fail. We fail. We trade into these bits. And the bit was he's supposed to say Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla and then I say no, it's Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla 2. And here's the worst part. As the clip is playing I remember my line. And I write down Godzilla vs. Mecha-Godzilla and I'm like, that can't be right. It has to be Mega-Godzilla. I must be remembering this wrong. Let's not do this. No, no. We're going to get this right if it's the last thing we do. It will be the last thing we do. One of these days. Well, we do have a few people to thank for shows. 9, what is it? 945? 945. 9 or 4 5. 945. 9 or 4 5.

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1:57:42 And we do these about... At a bit. At a bit. We fail. We fail. We trade into these bits. And the bit was he's supposed to say Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla and then I say no, it's Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla 2. And here's the worst part. As the clip is playing I remember my line. And I write down Godzilla vs. Mecha-Godzilla and I'm like, that can't be right. It has to be Mega-Godzilla. I must be remembering this wrong. Let's not do this. No, no. We're going to get this right if it's the last thing we do. It will be the last thing we do. One of these days. Well, we do have a few people to thank for shows. 9, what is it? 945? 945. 9 or 4 5. 945. 9 or 4 5.

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2:04:22 Um, no, no, okay. Hey, I got a it's it's a rather long clip, but it's from um, I found it to be Fascinating and I hope you will as well. This is from a recent senate hearing It's the law and justice committee So it wasn't really a hearing like, you know, they got to put someone to death which often happens in the senate This is just a hearing to inform a senate of what's going on in this case. It is about What's going on at colleges in the United States? Sounds intriguing. Indeed. This is like some military helicopter going over here. And I don't know if he, now he, now this guy is Professor Matt Manuel. I think he's a representative, maybe a state representative. I don't know if he's in Congress, but he's there in his, in his capacity as professor. And he may be from Evergreen.

2:05:19 Is that possible? Well, his talk here is about leftist college students. and how they see language, how they interpret language. We may need to stop from time to time during this or if you're just bored by it, but I think you'll like it. Over the past few years, we've seen an uncomfortable increase in the amount of violence on college campuses, probably more so than at any other time since the Vietnam War. Incidents at Middlebury, Yale, Berkeley, the University of Washington, and of course, Evergreen. These events have led many professors and students to ask, you know, why has this happened? What has changed in the last few years to lead to the increase in violence? And what are causing these increased incidences? So one, I don't believe that the students are learning this behavior in high schools.

2:06:11 I haven't seen anything to suggest or indicate that high school teachers are teaching that violence is an acceptable response to ideas that one disagrees with. I'm friends with many high school teachers, my wife is a teacher, I still visit many high school classrooms, so I don't think they're coming to colleges with this attitude. And if that's the case, then we need to assume that this is something that they may be learning while at the university or the college environment, and I think that that should concern us. Two, many college students today think about language differently than we do or we did. We all remember the childhood phrase, I'm sure, sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me.

2:06:56 This was our generation and many generations before us the ability to distinguish between verbal disagreement and physical disagreement right and it's the notion that Distinguish things that you say from the things that you do and And generally the attitude is we don't punish you for the things that you say, but we will punish you for physical violence. For many college students today that I work with, they don't make that distinction the way we used to. They see language and violence as the same thing. If they hear an idea that they disagree with, they will often respond with, you are doing violence to me and my community.

2:07:36 If there is a speaker that they disagree with that comes to campus, they will say, you are making it unsafe for me to be here. They see verbal assaults in some of the same light that we see physical assaults. And I think it's important for your discussion today because it may explain why you're seeing an increase in violence on college campuses. In the past, it was never acceptable to use violence against a speaker that you disagreed with. But if you see speech as violence, then of course the use of violence to combat violence becomes more justified.

2:08:11 In talking with my younger millennial college students, they would liken it similar to what we would say in your committee as self-defense, right? Your committee on law and justice says there's a difference between you proactively going out and using violence and you responding to violence with violence of your own. One is a crime, one we consider self-defense. But for many of my college students, they say, well, if you say things that are offensive or hateful, then my use of violence is just violence to defend myself against other violence. And so I don't think people from my generation, maybe your generation, see it that way. But an increasing number of college students see violence, physical violence, against what they consider verbal violence as therefore justified.

2:08:57 And the third thing that I would say is that a lot of times the violence comes from zealotry. And as any student of history knows, that all zealot movements eventually get to become so enamored with the righteousness of their cause that they adopt this kind of the ends justify the means mentality and that's nothing unique to this generation. many movements if you look at become captured by the zealot wing and then you know it becomes this notion that What we're doing is so important that there can be collateral damage. And if you are a college student and you firmly believe that you are saving the world from environmental catastrophe, if you are eliminating racial injustice, if you are bringing about social justice, then it might be worth a little violence or something to bring about that cause. And it does kind of lead to this, well, the ends justify the means, and I think we see that.

2:09:57 What I'll close with, and I know you have a lot of other people here, is that I'm not sure if laws can fix this problem. We don't really have a legal problem so much as we have a campus cultural problem. It's already illegal to throw a brick at the head of a speaker that you disagree with. It's already illegal to break the arm of a professor that brought a speaker to campus that you disagreed with. It's already illegal to burn buildings because you disagree with a speaker. And so I'm not sure if additional laws will change what we're seeing on campus. But what I think we can do is focus on creating incentives for administrators to alter the culture on campuses so that the environment is truly a place where we do tolerance. And when I use the word tolerance, I mean the word in a tough sense.

2:10:51 It's easy to advocate for tolerance if it means that you should only say things that I agree with. But true tough tolerance means that you have to listen to people that you disagree with, and we're not necessarily seeing that. And it's not just Evergreen, Senator Patton. There are lots of universities where we're having this problem. So I appreciate the fact that you've held this hearing today. There you go. I thought that was a good clip. We're all gonna die. It wasn't tight enough to be clip of the day, but I will say that was very interesting and I think he summarized things properly. And it's frightening. Language, well, here's what's frightening.

2:11:28 These kids are gonna graduate and they're gonna go out looking for work. And you have to come up with some...if you're an employer, seems to me, you have to come up with some way of keeping these kids from ever becoming...ever working for you ever. Ever being in your organization. You really do. It's not non-trivial. And I think a lot of this bra thing that's going on with the Silicon Valley is a result of some of this. Oh, that's a very good point, John. We didn't even look at that angle yet, did we? No, and Cantor is a good example, the anecdote you have about him, you know, he violated this woman by saying she's pretty. I mean... She's enchanting.

2:12:10 Enchanting, which is like, oh, you're enchanting. Screw you! So, you know, again, I'm probably right with my other assertion, which is why are you so dolled up? What are you trying to prove? And just being aggressive in a negative way with women who are pretty. That may be the way to go. Maybe you have to kind of, maybe the way to address this these days is to go exactly the opposite. Maybe it will be perceived exactly the opposite way too. Who knows? We should test this. We need to field test this. We need to field test this. Yes, some younger guys out there want to have some fun. They hang out in bars.

2:12:49 But, yes, I think the real problem is what do you do to keep these people out of your organization? Because that's what you have to do. And it's callous, but there's got to be some ways of doing it. Not just because, oh, this woman or this guy is very qualified for the job, is overqualified. How can you make sure you don't hire them without violating some labor law? So you have to, there's got to be new ways developed because there's always ways of getting around the law. It's illegal to discriminate if you're a company of a certain size. If you're a small company, you can do pretty much whatever you want. Well, it gets worse. There's another trend which is extremely disturbing amongst the millennials. Not only are they, you know, do they perceive words as physical violence, but they're all jacked up.

2:13:37 We all love chocolate, but some people are taking it to a new level. The product is called Coco Loco. It's essentially a chocolate powder that's snorted. The owner of the company that sells the product says it's a mix of rock cacao and energy stimulants. His website says it gives users a quote, steady rush of euphoric energy and a sense of calm focus. But Long Islanders we spoke with were shocked to hear it was being sold legally online. If you need energy, have some energy bars or you don't need to snort chocolate. Oh geez, yeah no, I mean anything that you put up your nose could be dangerous in itself. Company owner Nick Anderson defended the product saying like anything else it should be used in moderation. Irresponsible, I think that it should be sold to 18 and up, it shouldn't be sold to minors.

2:14:30 The medical professionals we spoke with here say while they don't know enough about the product, they do not advise anyone use this. All of the problems that people have with taking too much energy drinks are going to just be magnified by doing this to the lungs. It's going to turn out to not be safe. While some call the new trend, quote, disgusting. Anything that goes up your nose is disgusting. Others like this Long Islander who have tried it before in Europe say they'll try it again. You got energy, you got Happiness, everything with it. Well, the company warns on its website that chocolate may impair your ability to drive and may cause health problems. This product has not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. No kidding. This is not a good trend. Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine. Yikes.

2:15:18 Well, that was something I didn't know was going on. Now, since you're in Italy, I do have a couple of questions about the Muslims. Ah, yes. And I have two clips. I have two clips and I want to ask you what you're saying there. But let's go with the Italy rundown from RT with some analysis. As for the extent of the problem, let's check out Italy. That country has already seen at least 85,000 migrants reach its shores so far this year. It's pleading with fellow EU nations to share the burden, but that's even as far as this week been largely ignored. Then in France, that giant makeshift camp housing migrants in Paris had to be cleared by the authorities, with the migrants put into temporary accommodation across the city instead. Up to the north in Calais, that former site of the notorious Jungle Camp, it's now seen budget hotels fill their rooms with those refugees. Over to Greece, it's seen a huge share of migrants too, of course.

2:16:10 Locals on the island of Chios are furious that their hotels are again having to be used as emergency housing. We sounded out a European political analyst and a European Parliament MP about the migrant crisis. Both agree it is a huge problem but for different reasons. I mean, this whole migrant story is based on hypocrisy. Where are these migrants coming from? They're coming from Afghanistan. They're coming from Iraq. They're coming from Syria. They're coming from Libya. These are the countries where the U.S. and NATO said they were going to bring democracy. So, you bring democracy, and 20 years later, you get migrants coming in droves. So, the responsibility of the West comes in the fact that they have destabilized countries and they have attacked some of the most secular countries

2:16:54 In the Mideast, the second hypocrisy, as you said, is that they've all got these nice words and very sweet to open the borders to refugees, so they're inviting them. When Mrs. Merkel said that she was going to greet these refugees, that was an invitation. But there's an invitation, and then when the migrants arrive, well, there's nobody to greet them. Now, one other thing, just an aside, it's not really got as much to do with the question, but I do want to play this clip before I forget. This is a short clip that was a part of a bigger report. And this little guy, this little thing showed up in the middle of the report and it was very distressing to me personally, that I would hear what I'm going to hear. This is the weird segment of report on people smuggling.

2:17:37 If the boat's sensors are deliberately turned off by NGOs in order to obscure the location, then that does not arouse confidence. So, that's caught my attention because apparently these, a lot of these smugglers and others, they're involved with NGOs, these troublemakers, which the Russians have been. I think we talked about it. What's happening is the NGOs are in the water and they're getting closer and closer to, you know, like Northern Africa. And now you only have to reach the NGO boat. That's the problem. Yeah, and they turn their sensors off so nobody knows where they are. Except the NGOs. Except the NGOs and then they sneak out, sneak here and they sneak there. This is not, this doesn't sound right to me.

2:18:25 I find it distressing. NGOs are just becoming a nuisance. Wow. On all kinds of levels. A lot of them have been. The question remains, so you're in Italy and we see all these YouTube videos of all these Muslims roaming around. What do you see? I'm not seeing it, but I'm in Rome. I'm not necessarily in Italy. And it's, no, I'm really not seeing it at all. Maybe maybe there were some near the The Vatican we did the Sistine Chapel Tour, but you know I'll know more for Thursday show because I'll be Tuesday For Tina's birthday we go to Florence and we're gonna go to visit Willow and Willow of course We'll have you know the Willow and Matteo obviously you know Matteo always has good stories. Yes stories for sure however a couple of things

2:19:26 It has nothing to do with immigrants. I just want to get off my chest. It has nothing to do with the immigrants and then I'll get back to the immigrants. When you go to the Sistine Chapel, we did the tour. And by the way, the immigrants may be these a-holes who the minute you cross the bridge towards Vatican City, they're all like, tickets, tickets, skip the line, tickets, skip the line, tickets, skip the line. But- but not like once, not twice, 50 times. Every 10 feet, there's another guy. Ticket, ticket, ticket, skip the line! The crazy thing is, it's a good idea to get tickets to skip the line. But you do not want to go to any of those guys. Now...

2:20:08 But when we're, when you get the, where do you get the tickets to skip the line? Uh, well, so you can order online and there's 16 euros a pop. Uh, but if you, if you want a good deal when you're in front of the, uh, you know, in when you're at the big, at the big, uh, it's not the square, but you know, when you're in front of the big, uh, Piazza there, um, there's a, there's a store in the left hand corner. It's the only one you'll see it. You go up to the second floor, you ask for Juliana, and that's absolutely a great deal. You get the guided tour with a little earpiece so you can hear what they're saying. But here's what really bugged us to no end. It's a two hour tour. Throughout the entire tour, they're very clear about two things, three things.

2:20:59 out of respect when you go into the, it's the Pope's private chapel and this is all Michelangelo, the frescoes, it's a beautiful thing, it's something to see. As a woman, you cannot have bare shoulders or bare knees, but of course for an additional 2.50 euros, you can get a nice little drape that you put over your shoulders and or over your knees. You're not allowed to take photos and videos of the chapel. Do you know why? I actually knew this when I heard it, but I'd forgotten. Do you know why you're not allowed to? No, I don't. I mean, I know what the old excuse is, you know, but you know, flash is going to ruin everything. No, no, no, no, no, no.

2:21:39 In, I think it was 2010, they restored the Sistine Chapel. But no one wanted to pay for it except for Nippon Television. It was only three and a half million dollars, quote unquote only. And because of that, they cut a deal that they have the exclusive copyright on all imagery until 2040. What yes, I know I'm like shit. What a great deal. I should I could have gotten the money together for that That's a great. What do you imagine? What if you get a hold of Nippon and and gas them for permission? You know you'll pay for it. You'll pay for it

2:22:24 How much? Well, I don't know. This I don't know, but it's very clear. You cannot take photos or videos inside. It's posted everywhere. The explanation is everywhere. You can't do it. The other thing you can't do, where you're asked not to do and there's signs, is talk. Please be quiet. Be respectful. Be quiet. So you go through this tour and it's busy and it's an hour and a half of walking around until you get in. In fact, it's so hyped up that when we first walked in, we're like, eh, is this it? You know, it takes you a second to, like, okay, let me step back. But everyone's talking, and the guards are going, shh, silencio, silencio, shh. No one is respecting the don't talk, and every asshole millennial is sneaking their iPhone, using the selfie cam to film the ceiling. It's unbelievable.

2:23:22 It's unbelievable. We were just, we weren't talking, we're like, we're just, you know, making our little hand signals like Trump and Putin. You know, like, look at these a-holes. They have no respect. People are getting kicked out, but they're all like, oh, I can sneak this, oh, I can sneak this. And you know, we just hold, oh, we'll just hold my heel in it. Oh, they can't see I'm doing it. You know, I'm speechless. I was speechless because we weren't supposed to talk, but I was speechless about that. Well, that's not going to get better with time. No, but back to the immigrants. We were discussing if this was perhaps a plan, what's happening in the European Union. And multiple people sent me pointers to Richard Niklaus Eero, Count of Kuforda-Kalergi.

2:24:18 Now, he was born in 1894, died July 27, 1972. He was an Austrian-Japanese politician, philosopher, count of Koudenhove-Kalgary, the pioneer of European integration. He served as the founding president of the Pan-European Union for 49 years, which was the preliminary ideological foundation for the European Union. And you read through this, a lot of this is from Wikipedia, and I'll just pull out a few important pieces. In his book, Practical Idealism, written in 1925, he describes the future in Europe and the European racial composition with the following words. The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear

2:25:15 Owing to the vanishing of space, time and prejudice, the Eurasian Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with the diversity of individuals. And then, and this is kind of a weird passage, instead of destroying European Jewry, Europe against its own will refined and educated this people into a future leader nation through this artificial selection process. No wonder that this people that escaped ghetto prison developed into a spiritual nobility of Europe. Therefore, a gracious providence provided Europe with a new race of nobility by the grace of spirit.

2:25:58 This is just some stuff from an old guy, however, you have to know that every year there is an award given, the Koudenhove-Kalgari Award, which is handed out to leaders who have helped further the European project. Notable recent winners, Angela Merkel and our buddy, Heiko Hermann von Rumpuy. Again, still like, meh, is it really that? Is it really that guy? For me, this was the... This really did it. In 1955, he proposed Beethoven's Ode to Joy be the music for the European anthem. Which of course, 16 years later, is now the European anthem.

2:26:44 So I need to read up on this guy and we need to do a lot of research, but if you listen to his words and you see some of the things that have been implemented, it seems like it was a plan. Well, and the plan is working well. Fantastic. And I think that one of the elements of it from a globalist perspective is this, and we had a clip which incorporated it, is this constant complaining about white supremacy. Yes, yes. Yes, it fits right into that scheme because whites, you know, you have to marginalize whites as a race because you have to marginalize all races. They all have to come together in some sort of a...I wish I had a video of that woman that was screaming about this at the takedown of one of the Jefferson Davis or wherever it was. Oh, she was speaking about white supremacists. It was in the clip. She's going on, she says, white supremacist reprimands me, reprimands me.

2:27:36 not reprimand, reparations, reprimands, reparations. Same thing really, when you think about it. If you think about it. And she was a mixed race kind of, she's a white girl from my perspective, but she was a really interesting mixed race white girl that looked She just had, she was, I wouldn't say she had dark skin, but she had kind of, I would say, Latin skin. It may have been a Latin girl, I'm not sure, but she looked, everything else was white and she's bitching. And very, this is interesting. Yeah, it makes sense. I mean, this is, so this one way, it's taking too long. So let's bring all these people in from the Middle East. The problem is they're very religious.

2:28:23 A lot of these people at least well, no stop stop stop. I just hit me As I've been watching the European news and I've been watching because I saw the report it's interesting I did see that RT report about we watched a lot the other day I really tried to scan all the networks in Tina was like hey, he's not John's favorite channel Deutsche Welle of course the term is economic migrants and Ah. Economic migr- So they cleared up Cal- uh, Calais. No, no, no. The- the tunnel. But now there's another camp in the woods at Calais. And it's- Well, they got a- the camp from overhead is beautiful. Yeah. It's like the government put up all these tents and it's just dynamite looking. Blue tents. That's after they cleared them out of the woods. Yes. But now they're putting them in hotels. In hotels.

2:27:36 not reprimand, reparations, reprimands, reparations. Same thing really, when you think about it. If you think about it. And she was a mixed race kind of, she's a white girl from my perspective, but she was a really interesting mixed race white girl that looked She just had, she was, I wouldn't say she had dark skin, but she had kind of, I would say, Latin skin. It may have been a Latin girl, I'm not sure, but she looked, everything else was white and she's bitching. And very, this is interesting. Yeah, it makes sense. I mean, this is, so this one way, it's taking too long. So let's bring all these people in from the Middle East. The problem is they're very religious.

2:28:23 A lot of these people at least well, no stop stop stop. I just hit me As I've been watching the European news and I've been watching because I saw the report it's interesting I did see that RT report about we watched a lot the other day I really tried to scan all the networks in Tina was like hey, he's not John's favorite channel Deutsche Welle of course the term is economic migrants and Ah. Economic migr- So they cleared up Cal- uh, Calais. No, no, no. The- the tunnel. But now there's another camp in the woods at Calais. And it's- Well, they got a- the camp from overhead is beautiful. Yeah. It's like the government put up all these tents and it's just dynamite looking. Blue tents. That's after they cleared them out of the woods. Yes. But now they're putting them in hotels. In hotels.

2:29:19 You know, and people are, I mean, people are complaining about it. I don't know. I mean, we've already heard this in Italy that it's the, you know, the budget hotels and the government is paying these hotels, full occupancy. You know, this is what we heard from Matteo, from my nephew. They got full occupancy. Why would they complain? It's a business model. It's working. All right. Well, I have one last thing. All right. that, uh, I want to get out of the way, which is the... you probably didn't get this, but there was a... something of a cyber attack on some nuclear, uh... Yeah, the nuclear... oh yeah. facility. Yeah, I think someone got phished at, uh, at the office. Well, whatever. But they blame it on the Russians. Oh, the Russians. Ooh, yes. Wait, wait, where's that Russia clip? Hold on, where's that Russia jingle? Sorry, I'm a little behind.

2:30:12 Russia was it Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia yeah here it is. I'm sorry There we go much better that you bring that up guy in Chichican has not been surface for a month. I wonder what's up. Maybe she's pregnant. I just hit me. Maybe she's pregnant. She could be pregnant. All right. So this is the twisted report. I've got two, I got two clips. One is just as new part of the other one's got CBS because the CBS part of this, it needs to discussion. Okay. And I'm going to again, reveal a CBS trick.

2:31:01 that they use in their reporting. Not an unusual one, they do this all the time, but because we've caught it a lot and this is another example so let's start with the first clip. U.S. officials say hackers have launched a series of cyber attacks targeting a dozen of those U.S. facilities and once again Russia is the prime suspect. NBC's Pete Williams with the details. U.S. officials say tonight they sent a bulletin warning of a- Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. I just want to, I'm sorry. This is the, I have the two clips are the following. One is the NBC version of the story. And the second was the CBS version of the story where they pull the stunt and reveal. But we're doing it's also a good con to good contrast. You're playing the right clip. So keep playing it. U.S. officials say hackers have launched a series of cyber attacks targeting a dozen of those U.S. facilities. And once again, Russia is the prime suspect. NBC's Pete Williams with the details.

2:31:58 U.S. officials say tonight they sent a bulletin warning of a series of cyber attacks beginning in May on companies that run a dozen U.S. nuclear power plants. Several U.S. intelligence officials tell NBC News Russian hackers are strongly suspected because the attacks resemble previous cyber intrusions known to have been carried out by the Russians on electrical grids in other countries. Among the targets this time, U.S. officials say, the Wolf Creek nuclear plant in Burlington, Kansas. The FBI and Homeland Security say the cyber attack appears to be limited to administrative and business networks, not plant controls. And the company says the intrusion had no impact on the plant because the targeted operational computer systems are completely separate from the corporate network.

2:32:43 Security experts say the hackers goal could be a threat of a blackout. To send a message to say back off because we have the ability to strike you in the heart of your core systems, your networks that matter to your economy and to your lifestyle. The industry says none of the control systems for any of the nation's 99 operating nuclear plants are connected to the internet, but some experts say the intrusions are a wake-up call. The problem is that the nuclear industry in the United States is under very great economic strain right now and they're looking to cut costs in everything. Safety, security and cyber security.

2:33:20 So that last guy was from the concerned scientist guy who's always the guys who do the nuclear clock the guy I don't know if they do the nuclear clock or not, but I do know that they want win the power. So the guy at the end says, you know, they don't care. They're running out of money and they don't they don't care about security. I don't care. They're trying to save money. OK, fine. That's an interesting that that's kind of the approach NBC takes toward this particular situation to make it sound like all these nukes should be shut down. But on On the second one, which is the Twisted Report Cyberattacks of Nuke 2, see this is the CBS version, this has got your buddy Jeff Begay's... Oh, the poop guy? Eeeh, gotta take a dump! Fresh off the toilet. Pockets coming out! And he does a little trick right in the middle of it, and I will ring the bell right after he's finished, and then you can maybe stop it and we can back it up and listen to what he did.

2:34:20 But he does this trick, and a lot of CBS reporters do this trick. And we've pointed it out. Every time I catch it, I will point it out and continue to point it out. It's really a bad idea what they're up to, but play. Investigators have not attributed the incident to a specific country or a cyber criminal. But on June 28th, the FBI and DHS issued a joint report warning nuclear power plants of potential cyber criminal activity. I'm sorry. I don't want to take anything away from the report, but that sentence was I got a poop real bad, and then I'll stop it's Attributed the incident to a specific country or a cyber criminal But on June 28th the FBI and DHS issued a joint report warning nuclear power plants of potential cyber criminal activity Who do you think's responsible?

2:35:12 Jim Lewis, who advises the US government on cyber security, believes there is a leading suspect. All the evidence points towards Russia. Really? They probably want to get into the nuclear controls, but they weren't able to. They only were able to get into the front-end operations, you know, the billing, the office stuff, the email. Late last year, the US government identified a Russian hacking unit codenamed Grizzly Step as the source of malicious cyber activity against US infrastructure. And technology is giving them more targets, such as electrical grids, hospitals and election systems. Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats. Secondly, the potential impact of these cyber threats is amplified by the ongoing integration of technology into our critical infrastructure and into our daily lives.

2:36:03 People familiar with the operation say nuclear power plants are actually less vulnerable than other targets because safety systems are not connected to the internet. And Lewis says many are outdated. It's specialized, it's probably unique, it might be tailored to fit the particular plant. It's not off the shelf, it's not like the operating system or the office devices you get from a store. A motive for the cyber attacks on nuclear facilities could be to gather intelligence, but Jane the hackers could also have been planning for future intrusions. All right, Jeff Pagaj, thank you. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Okay, here's what happened. I know exactly what happened.

2:36:46 Pagais goes on and says something about this and makes these assertions and then he says, and CBS does this constantly, then he says, national security or homeland security guy or intelligence guy, Dan Coats. And he just says his name and then Coates blabbles on about something or other, just generally, might as well be talking about barbecue. And as if this was a confirmation of the basic thesis, when in fact Coates says nothing. He never mentions Russians, he never talks about the nuke plans, he doesn't do any of that stuff. It's just a random clip from some hearing. And CBS constantly does this.

2:37:25 Yeah, this is a well it looks like the Russians did it and then they put John McCain on and he's Jim McCain says you know I always like to use redwood It's got nothing to do with it There was something else. There was something else. It might be tailored to fit something else. Let me see if I can find it. My real pet peeve is, you know, they do this to do that and election systems, which is everyone has said no. Oh yeah. So yeah, they're always throwing in a little needle on something or other. Everyone has said no, that didn't happen. And I said of hacking, my favorite is they hacked the election. It was like they hacked everybody's brain in America. Impossible. Um,

2:38:08 But then they say, oh, they hacked the... How did they find that? He said, I think he said, hacked voting systems. Let me just check where that was. ...integration of technology into our critical infrastructure and into our daily lives. It was before this, I believe. I see. It's a good clip, John. and Stan Coats. Secondly, the put was before was it before Dan Coats? Obsessing such as electrical grids, hospitals and election systems. Boom. There you go. Bullshit. Bullshit. That's a good catch because I guess I missed that because I'm always looking for these little zingers that CBS throws into stories that have nothing to do with the story. Well, we need to talk to the guy because what he's not doing is he's not doing the proper sound effects. This is what he needs. He needs that in there. A little pew pew. He needs that for sure. Another thing that's kind of interesting is that they said, well, you can't hack these plants because they're not hooked to the internet. One, good idea. Yeah. And two, is an outdated software. Does it work? Yeah.

2:39:08 Yes, soft, I mean you can't, they always, I forget who it was, I think it was JC that was over dinner recently talking about how they're trying, you know, they have some old code that is somebody's running this old code and it's like COBOL or something. Hey, COBOL's okay, I've got no problem with COBOL. I'm a big COBOL fan and then they, it's pretty hard to hack it over the internet. If not impossible, but they want to change it to JavaScript so it's really hackable. I mean, it's like they were just asking for trouble. It's insane. I mean, all these guys are asking for trouble. These dudes named Ben know better than half of this stuff. It's like it's not a good idea. The code works. What is the code works? The code works. So these reports are annoying. Well, I think CBS is extremely annoying with the way they present this stuff. Well,

2:40:03 They're- everyone's flailing, everyone's struggling. They're all trying to stay relevant. Where as we all know, we're really the guys that are relevant. You know why? Because no one can tell us what to do. Even if they try to- they try to shut us down, try to take away our access. But nope! We prevail. So far. Hopefully we'll prevail from Florence. Let me see how many gigas I have left. Hold on. Total uses 8 gigas for the show and prep. So you use 8 for the show? 8 gigas. Well, by the time we're done uploading everything, we'll be at 10 gigas. All right, my Jigga. Thursday, we'll be back with another episode of the best podcast in the universe coming to you from Florence, Italy, Firenze. Until then, coming to you from the capital of Gitmo Nation, Parmesan.

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