Phallocentric Age

00:00 Wait, wait! Stop. Yeah? Basketball moment. Adam Curry. John C. DeVore. It's Sunday June 4th 2017 and this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 9 or 3 5 This is no agenda Bringing sanity to your meme-infested mind and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in the capital, The Drone Star State Downtown Austin Tejas in the Clue Dio. In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where apparently they've added podcasting to the Peabody Awards... ...I'm John C. DeVore Acton It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Well this is an outrage Okay No one told me about this

00:42 I didn't find out about it until they actually did the awards. Ah, I feel like should be on the blue ribbon panel? Well you should have been What are the Peabody Awards these are journalistic awards yeah No, it's kind of like a quad. It's like it. It's like a mishmash award. It's like it's it's equality is I don't even know what they are the webbies for journalists no no this is like the one of the most prestigious Awards and now they're gonna include podcasting that such a contradiction did I think they even gave a podcasting award out to someone? Yeah, oh man

01:18 That's what always happens, John. It would be a PBS repurposed radio show called the podcast. This is why Nikola Tesla died lonely in a hotel room when they burned all his papers. It's what happens with the true pioneers. Is it you expecting this to happen? Are they going to burn your papers? They're gonna burn my papers I tell ya! If I don't smoke them first... Oh man. What are all these zigzags doing over here? Burn him! Zigzags?! Burn his paper! Stop, I gotta say something here... Uhh..I had never really understood this in the United States of America and i think it's changed a little bit over the years but in Europe when we roll a joint we roll it lengthwise and though the paper is long lengthwise here its like broad and then you make up pregnant like thing

02:15 People in America really don't know how to roll joints. It's very, very pathetic and they're using the paper wrong! Adam at curry dot com. Well people know what I'm talking about Now you always want to use the raw You never want to have zigzag Raw paper Anyway In between show days is when all the fun happens And who knows what will happen. Well on show days we get a lot of action on show days right after the shows over We get action on Show Days now when did the last thing happen was that on uh, when did London was... Was that Saturday? Friday? Well, there's all kinds of stuff that has been going on. Yeah I know and we're even late starting because there was just so much going on you know tons of stuff to look at the clip to evaluate it was just a lot and a lot of frivolous stuff that i didn't get to such as Kathy Griffin

03:09 Her Trump, it's Trump's fault. Apology! I wanted to pull some stuff from that because i loved when she was crying and... It was kind of pathetic like I didn't feel like I wanted to pull anything yeah so I didn't but we're talking about the bombings okay let's do that first of all one there was like bombing bombing Well, there was a bunch of noise at one of the places. It sounds like bombings I thought it was just drive-through people and then And then stabbing them Yeah, there's also at one event they didn't know how to handle this in the mainstream media especially the networks and so they left a whole story out that would have actually kind of helped but it's almost as though they're pulling back on some of these. There were some very odd reactions to this across the board across the board and man I have to say the way the politicians responded the way the mainstream responded

04:05 I, you know... You're just asking for conspiracy theories to be created. You really are asking for it and i ask how can this happen so close to the previous event in London? How does it happen? That was weird. I mean, it's almost as if they're trying to sway the election but I would never suggest such a thing. This is the number one conspiracy theory and people who I know very well go through the trouble of encrypting an email to tell me this was obviously false flags so she can win the election! And some of it seems could be construed that way

04:47 Here's Jeremy Corbyn of the Labour Party who feels that action must be taken. Absolutely shocked and horrified at what happened, looking at the pictures of people running frightened police running in the other direction to try and help save lives And then our brilliant paramedics ambulance crews and fire service crews all getting on the scene to help This is a dreadful terrorist attack It has taken yet more lives in this country. We won't be campaigning National Eve during today but we'll resume later on because I think it's important to give a message that democracy must prevail. If we allow these attacks to disrupt our democratic process then we all lose in response as in Manchester, all communities must come together Our strength is the strength of our community unity That was shown in Manchester straight after the horrible event there and I'm sure it'll be exactly the same in London

05:46 You know, okay so great. We'll stop campaigning... They have all kinds of rules for campaigning anyway but the general message that came through really continuously was they even had a slogan which I had not previously heard Let me see. First, well actually first here's MSNBC just another strange reaction because whatever and everyone after the fact here's what you hear consistently all the emergency services were so great that's what you hear everyone saying So the cleanup crew was great but maybe you want to say how the hell can this happen in almost in the same area

06:30 Don't you have extra special systems and stuff in place? And I would be very disappointed as a citizen. This is what the guy on MSNBC said, I found this odd." When you have analyzed these incidents post facto as well during as you have so many times with me and others here on MSNBC and NBC News What is the risk? There's certainly a risk of underreaction, but is there any risk of overreaction, of deploying too much as we've been watching all this live coming into our satellite center here in New York City and then beaming it out from London. Is there ever a point where you go well that's too much or that you shouldn't be applying that amount of force there? What kind of question is that?! Who asks that question!

07:22 He does. That's close facto! Crazy, and here is the new theme which I heard everywhere As you'd imagine that is a frightening experience for people trying to get home right now such as the level of vigilance there And goes to the point we were talking about earlier this active situation Of not only securing public places in London right now but also under that run, hide and tell protocol. The Run Hide And Tell Protocol I mean at least we have something decent here in America Yeah if you see something say something If you see something say something But now they've got run hide tell

08:06 I mean that's really telling people you are a stupid slave, shut up don't fight don't resist. Don't resist and the people they were showing nice switch between Sky BBC all of this came to the Roku which is great RT had some interesting coverage and this is from think this may be Sky News no maybe BBC man on the street again just this attitude which I think is antiquated. And I don't know if this is how they really want the British public to perceive these attacks and what their response will be." And i keep saying, If me having a gin and tonic with my friends flirting with handsome men hanging out with brilliant women is what offends these people so much, I'm going to do it more not less because that's what makes London so great that's what makes us the best city in the world! We're gonna go out and enjoy it more and I'm more determined than ever to love the city looks after me

09:03 The emergency services were just phenomenal. They were there within seconds, they kept us safe and swept the place. And then two things really struck me... One when we were leaving the police were our eyes and ears as we're trying to avoid blood or people's shoes that have fallen off or dropped wallets whatever they were our eyes and ears and kept us safe. He's mumbling something. We just drop wallets, shoes that have fallen off or dropped wallets whatever they were our eyes and ears and they kept us safe But secondly I noticed the paramedic that was looking after a woman who sadly face down on the ground There was a couple of them And thought they run at danger Then they turn their back to danger To put together the life in front of her while we're running for our lives behind them and I thought that...I don't know.. I'd not though about it in that way before but

09:49 They seem to be the most vulnerable at that point and they did a remarkable thing. And I might never meet the people who made judgments that potentially saved my life last night, but... I'm thankful to those people and I hope London hugs them in lots of ways. And clearly you're saying, in every way life carries on, London bounces back the way we've seen Manchester bounce back. They hate our democracy! Go vote people they hate our equality go meet people you haven't met before from a different part of the world. I was having dinner with an Australian like next time it should be someone from Pakistan or Africa whatever like that's what so great about London and small-minded, cowardly evil people should not change our way of life. They won't make me scared on the streets of London and I just think the people of Manchester have inspired us in the last fortnight and I hope that Londoners do their bit and I am confident they will step up to the plate. And words...cowardific...you know even the London mayor

10:49 Yeah, it was talking about this. Words to describe the grief and anger that our city will be feeling today I'm appalled and furious that these cowardly terrorists would deliberately target innocent Londoners and bystanders enjoying their Saturday night yeah i don't want to pull a Bill Maher but Cowardly. There can be no justification for the acts of these terrorists, and I'm quite clear that we will never let them win nor will we allow them to cower our city or Londoners We will not allow them to cower? Our ci- I've never heard it used that way Well you can...you know use it as an ac- But does that mean everybody was cowering? No he says that you won't let him allow them to cower Mmm ever again maybe

11:35 Well, here's a couple of things I want to throw in while we're discussing this. We don't have any background on it, I didn't even clip one but there are a couple of things that have been completely overlooked which are part of the same kind of massive thing but doesn't get covered in the mainstream media at all like the Rockham Ring evacuation. That was fantastic! 80 thousand people and this...I've been to Rockham ring. Yeah well heres the clip. I'm glad you have. I have one too, but I don't listen to yours. But we'll start with some breaking news German police have halted one of the world's biggest rock music festivals due to a terror threat now tens of thousands of people are attending the opening of the three-day Rock Am Ring festival and just a short while ago organizers asked volunteers excuse me visitors rather to clear the site

12:21 in order to allow police to investigate. They said they hope that the open-air concert will continue on Saturday, it's being held at the famous Nürburgring racetrack south of Bonn It comes less than two weeks after a suicide bomber killed 22 people at a concert in Manchester There was no translation of it or report that was usable, but the promoter the organizer Rockham ring very important guy in he does you to Everybody and he does everybody and he was so mad He was like he just was completely off his rocker about The lack of him the German government doing anything about this. And there was also a shooting in Copenhagen

13:05 It was a busy little week. Well, and this morning just before the show started a stampede in Turin 1,000 injured What was the stampede about? Well, apparently some... it was at a soccer match and somebody yelled there's a bomb. Something like that? And everybody took off and ran down the street! There are whole bunch of clips on Twitter of people just running madly down the street. It's so sad. A thousand people injured in this stampede People are about ready to do anything the government tells them Anything That rock-and-ring I could not believe evacuating 80,000 people that's not trivial

13:47 No, that's bigger than like it's three times or it's like the size of a small town. Really insane! And then to investigate what were they going to do? Walk around and what was the point? I don't know but here is Sky News making assertions and assumptions about really what this was What is quite extraordinary and peculiar about this particular attack is it sort of falls between the lone wolf, where you've got someone driving a vehicle just into a group of people and then the kind of more organized attack which we saw in Manchester where someone has actually constructed a bomb to try and kill as many people as possible. Here you have a rather crude attack in the sense that again it was using a vehicle and weapons but three people acting together trying to work as a team to do as much damage as they can

14:42 So, you know they just oh there's no real connection. It's just lone wolves who by you know They kind of hooked up and let's do something together I got an idea is right down there nice some people And what is the prime minister's response this was my favorite piece everything we have terror We have people being killed The events close to each other this is Reuters video it's their edit and it is edited But I have that this is Reuters This is what they showed of Theresa May's speech after this attack. Flabbergasting!

15:24 and the big companies that provide internet-based services provide. We need to work with allied democratic governments to reach international agreements that regulate cyberspace, to prevent the spread of extremist and terrorism planning And we need to do everything we can at home to reduce the risks of extremism online There is, to be frank far too much tolerance of extremism in our country. So we need to become far more robust in identifying it and stamping it out across the public sector and across society so, in light of what we are learning about the changing threat

16:00 We need to review Britain's counter-terrorism strategy, to make sure the police and security services have all the powers they need. And if we need to increase the length of custodial sentences for terrorism related offences even apparently less serious offenses that is what we will do. Since the emergence of the threat from Islamist inspired terrorism our country has made significant progress in disrupting plots and protecting the public But it is time to say enough is enough. Here comes the hammer! Goodbye, goodbye This this is what it's about today We're gonna lock down that internet we cannot have this happening we can't provide a safe space for jihadis That's the end of Mastodon I predicted It was going to be a flop no agendasocial.com that's not a flop great

16:56 I'm on it more than anything else. You're on what? No, I thought you were talking about something else. Yeah that too but can you believe this this is her response and again she said more but this is what Reuters edited. It was heavily edited wasn't even transparently edited it was poorly edited That's what so great about it! This is their takeaway this is the message that needs to be sent apparently Yeah, shut down the internet. Well Reuters and all the newspapers would love to have the Internet being shut down it's killing them! Hey I heard The New York Times is firing another hundred people including the public editor? Yes the public editors out Is that a big deal in journalism world

17:43 Well, no. No very few newspapers have one I mean do you say the Times also has it? I think they made less they renamed him the public editor But they had an alms buds man yeah And both the albums butsman and the public editor if they do exist at a newspaper They're the guys who are supposed to keep the newspaper from going off the rails like The Times has so what do you do you fire him you eliminate the position altogether Sick of this complaining Shut up All I did was my job. Shut up with what the customer wants! Jeez, don't you know any better than that? Oh man... Um... I don-I dunno what to make of this John. Everything in my spidey sense says wow yeah that's kind of coincidental we know MI5 are already investigating themselves for the Manchester attack What is going on?! How-why and why is this question not being asked? What is going on!? How come were not safe??

18:41 Don't they have the same sophisticated stuff they have in New York City? Well, you're asking me. Yeah! You are a resident expert I would expect. It's kind of like... it's very strange and what bothers me is that we don't have good... at least I dropped the ball on getting background around this because it seems as though this was overshadowed by the climate gate stuff Oh, totally. Totally and also is in this country we did we didn't hear about the Turin stampede We didn't hear about the Copenhagen shooting. We didn't hear about rock and ring No Rock Amring no We haven't heard anything all we here is about you know Comey's coming to speak he's gonna say bad things about Trump and Trump's gonna be investigated and of the

19:33 Mueller is going to reach beyond, he's gonna look for other things. And the global warming thing has been humiliated... We're now not leaders anymore which is okay. I like that. How does that work? Leaders in what?! What are they talking about? Whatever it is we're not leading in it! Oh, you know we could have led the way. We should... In fact I do have this... If we're getting lit- if we're gonna switch gears which i think we might as well. I think we can because that's what we just don't have anything else on. No, I think the clip from Theresa May That says enough! I think it says that's something to ponder. We had to ponder that for a while. Licensing is in your future, is what that says. But I get for example here's let's start with KQED or I'm sorry PBS News Hour which is deteriorating show by show It's absolutely astonishing to watch it

20:28 Here is Brooks and Shields again on Friday. They used to bring them in a lot more now they're bringing them on Friday to do the summary of the news, so we have these two guys Shields and Brooks, I guess it's called. One guy is a left winger and one guy is right winger and they agree on everything! Yeah, It's so fine Here are couple of short bits from their bitching and moaning about climate change how we've ruined it for everybody This is Shields & Brooks and this is the shields slam Yeah, shields. The world is a much better place because the United States leadership and this was an example of the United States working with other nations for common good to preserve our planet and he just turned his back on it. He turned his back on it! Turned his back on it. Now you would think that if this was going to be balanced someone could come along

21:26 and spew something that maybe was on the other side of the argument. But no, this is what Shields says. People, if you act extremely selfishly to other people they'll start acting extremely selfishly to you. And that's about to happen and so as the idea that America could lead the world and should influence the world and should have friendship with other powerful nations in the world That's an idea that took a big hit Yeah, everyone really showed their true colors in this one. The globalists and we get a lot of crap for saying people calling people globalist but what is that? That is exactly what it is you want the president to be the leader of the free world that is a very arrogant statement very arrogant and your friends across the ocean in Europe they think you're an arrogant cock for saying that stuff

22:26 That irony escapes everybody. No matter what you say, they think you're an arrogant cock? Well in Britain yes I have a quick little montage of some meltdowns from the news that we are pulling out of the accord. On a sunny day in the Rose Garden, what could be defined and construed as a dark speech... This will be the day that the United States resigned as the leader of the free world. I am such rage and sadness. We just watched a dangerous little man give a very very scary speech One of the most

23:01 bleak depictions of America's role in the world as environmental partners. So he is not helping the forgotten American, He is hurting them their kids will have worse asthma in the summer The president who talked about putting America first has now put America last Yeah there's a lot of conflagration between climate change greenhouse gases and pollution A lot of people I think that word is conflation What did I say? Conflaguration. Flagellation! There's a lot of flagellate. Listen to Pelosi, she flatulates. That we had moral responsibility to be good stewards of God's creation and in doing so... Now she is religious Oh yeah oh no but this IS religion that's the thing This is what I like to see thank you for calling this

23:54 This is exactly what I, when i heard it. I'm like wow you're just completely equating this to religion? You're drawing the analogies... We had a moral responsibility to be good stewards of God's creation and in doing so we must pay special attention to the needs of the poor that they saw as an environmental justice issue as well. Environmental justice, angelical community... This was the same thing with Shields! How is the left? The liberals all of a sudden but they're all talking about God yeah because it's religion how America should be in the world's policemen Yeah there's stuff they bitched about forever There are a couple of things, a couple of memes

24:36 This whole... I'll finish the Pelosi clip. The entire, you know this is basically sacrilegious A lot of comparisons to that The leaders of the free world and my favorite is if we talk about alternatives And I have a clip later on somewhere It's not natural gas anymore We have a new term for it Frack Natural Gas Have you heard this? Nope. Yeah, well so it could because natural gas is much it's a very clean source most of it yeah but we can't have that because that is not where the money needs to flow the money needs to flow towards subsidies and other countries and subsidies for them and just for I don't know not for you and me give us give them our money yes

25:23 And the term is now, frack natural gas. You just got to say it in one breath. Frack natural gas you'll start hearing it and that of course is meant to... We are so... memes make people... I'm reading a whole bunch of psychology books about memes It really is how we see the world, sadly. All right let's go back to Pelosi. The needs of the poor. They saw it as an environmental justice issue as well in evangelical community when the Pope went to the White House he talked about the dangers... Oh yeah! We're bringing the pope in now. What did she throw the word environment or I'm sorry evangelical community? She just threw it in. Yeah she just dumped it in there for what does it mean you know it's a bunch of people

26:08 who sit around being evangelical. It's probably, you know 90% of the world but okay. Dangerous air pollution. Air pollution! And just last week, the Pope met with President Trump and gave him a copy of his encyclical Laudato Si' which made the case for strong urgent action to halt the climate crisis. The pope wrote, The climate is a common good belonging to all and meant for all. Bible tells us that to minister to the needs of God's creation is an act of worship To ignore those needs is to dishonor the God who made us. And that is just what we're doing by walking away from this accord." Now do you think that somehow they had a meeting and the meeting went like this? Look, if we want to get these crazy ass Republicans on our side for the 2018 elections because that's all we care about midterm maybe we should start talking to them about God and how God...you know the Pope stuff

27:09 I can see that meeting happening. It's... it's... I can see the meeting happening, but the problem is they don't know how to do it! There's not an evangelical Christian and we probably have a few that listen to our show several that can't see through that They will email me. Now the kicker for her. The question I have for Donald Trump as a mother and a grandmother of five, and a grandmother of nine... How is he ever going to explain to his grandchildren what he did to the air they breathe? Assuming they breathe air. What did he do?! You're missing the best part! How is he ever going to explain to his grandchildren

27:48 What he did to the air they breathe assuming they breathed air Assuming they breathe there what their lizards who doesn't breathe air and I have to assume that that is the case we all do oh Okay, hmm. What a moron? I think the best and this was it wasn't even didn't even have to go into an explanation But I will say Tucker Carlson did a good job with, a guy who I've been wanting to get a clip from for a long time. The mayor of Miami, Miami Beach And we know what's going on in Miami There is fish in the street! Fish! Hashtag FISH! FISH everywhere! FISH! Now that couldn't at all... You'd think this where the homeless should go because there are lots of food Food? and you can bathe for free Fish? Yeah Fish and bathing Now this has nothing to do with

28:42 you know, the porous soil in Miami. That could have nothing to do with it and it's so odd that the ocean is rising in Miami but not exactly on the other side of Florida same height where they have a drought It's very very odd But the main thing, the main question and I cut this was a 15 minute interview Cut down into couple minutes but its worth it Because you hear the guy not being able to answer the question. It's always answered the same way and he pretty much gives the same answer you hear from everybody, And the question is what was this agreement going to do to lower the Earth's temperature? And to retard global climate change

29:32 I think that is a good question. What was in the agreement? Now you and I have attempted to read some of the agreement, not all parts have been really neatly packaged and it just seems like there's a lot of money flowing but nowhere does it really state well if we do X Y & Z and here's the price tag then this is what's going to happen And I appreciated that Tucker Carlson went through this with the mayor of Miami Beach incessantly and laughed in his face. And that needs to be done too." who don't have to lower their emissions rates is going to fix the global warming problem in Miami Beach. Tucker, let me tell you what's going on in Miami Beach when I became mayor we have streets that are flooding during sunny days the water levels have gone up dramatically We of course move forward to raise our roads put in pumps change our building codes That something that just caught my ear briefly Put In Palms That is an erosion issue they have

30:32 Did he say put in palms or put in pumps? I thought it was palms. Did he say pumps? Of course, moving forward to raise our roads...putting pumps... Hey maybe pumps you're right that was pumps because there is a there is a thing with erosion that they put in palms Oh putting pumps okay change our building codes and it's not because we're so excited to have to do that but we have to stop where are they gonna pump it too back into the ocean So it comes back again whether they would see what were you pumping to I don't know if you're underwater If you're underwater, where do you pump the water? Well we should look it up. Miami Beach when I became mayor we have streets that are flooding during sunny days the water levels have gone dramatically We of course move forward to raise our roads put in pumps Oh no I see what he's saying Put in pumps so ladies don't get their feet wet if your on pumps That's what he said Change our building codes and its not because were excited but we have to do for survival of our city And its not just Miami beach

31:33 over the world. Hey Tucker, I heard what you had to say but I got to tell you something when the worlds leading scientists are telling you this is whats going on and some of the smartest minds in the world are telling you that this is why at some point you have to listen. You're actually dodging my question completely and im not denying the existence of sea level rise Im merely asking a very specific policy question because this is about policies How will the terms of the Paris Agreement, specifically handing $3 billion a year to India and China which do not have to lower their emissions in the rest of this generation. how will that help what's going on in Miami Beach? The things you just described. Tucker, the bottom line is as the world is getting too hot and too warm, the oceans are rising And that's affecting Miami Beach It's affecting all coastal cities We must cool the globe down I can't let you dodge it again Tell me how that specific agreement and the financial arrangements

32:26 will help the problems you've described. And I'm going to tell you why, bottom line is rising oceans... Rising oceans aren't Republican and they're not Democrat so what does an agreement do? An agreement puts the world together in one in alignment says we have a problem let's work together and solve the problem. Tucker, no one is against that. Let's just say for the slight chance but what about for the slight chance Tucker all the world scientists and some of these great minds let's just say maybe they're right if they are Maybe it's a good idea if we do something about it. What you're saying is, you're not bothering... Hold on! What you are saying, you are describing religious faith You're saying I don't have to bother learning any of the details about a very specific agreement that were all mad about today because there people whose names I don't know who think its a good idea and my question to you is why wouldn't the average person say hey im open minded but like give me some specifics

33:16 and tell me more, win me over. Don't force me to participate explain it to me! It's a democracy after all right? Isn't it?" No question it's a democracy you know what its American democracy and truthfully it is world democracy And as you can imagine we used to be the leader in that free world democracy and I think really today I gotta tell ya So... What I'm hearing These people don't give a shit about the environment. They want to maintain the leadership of the free world in their own feeble minds, that seems to be the main issue. That's the one that is consistent We we need to lead the world. We need to be the leaders of the world I don't know why they want that but that is what is being said Carrie has said and I heard you say it's kind of right, we gave up leadership You guys believed in science Why don't you give me some and why don't you tell me so so like allowing China? To take a pass on reducing its greenhouse emissions for years is going to reduce our

34:10 global warming and its effects. I don't understand what the answer is. But the fact of the matter is, think about it Tucker China signed this agreement Europe signed it India signed it everyone's in it together to make the globe a better place to reduce these emissions and I mean come on you're talking about going through... Is there single person watching this show stupid enough to be convinced by what you were saying? I'm open-minded I want you to convince me that the Paris Agreement is good thing will reduce global warming and your not even trying Almost every mayor American now has come together and say we're going to adhere to those protocols. Is that really the argument? Like other people are doing it, therefore it's a good idea? We have to! And we know do Tucker. The terms are very clear if you all come together and reduce your greenhouse emissions and lower the temperature of the world than the waters will stop rising. That is a global agreement.

34:56 agreement. But it actually doesn't and I sense a little more about perhaps than you do but the last question if that's true, if reducing emissions will prevent the seas from rising then why not require India and China and the world's other biggest polluters to do that? And Tucker it does! It brings everybody together so one thing I learned with the president's comments today what he said about Pittsburgh. It's funny because the mayor of Pittsburgh is a friend of mine who doesn't agree with this, but what's incredible I didn't realize that Ohio and Pittsburgh doesn't get affected by climate change! To me it was an interesting thing... You're making me more nervous than when this segment began but Mr Mayor I appreciate you coming on it was game of you. What a douche! Okay so the guy said douche bag? Yeah they should throw him out

35:42 But let's... I wonder just for a second about the rising sea levels. What again is the reason for the, yeah global warming okay Why is the sea rising? Is that because the ice is melting? Is that generally accepted? I guess that must be it but I don't see that as even rising Well here's something I got A NASA article from nasa.gov, a NASA study October 13th 2015 this is one of our warmest years on record I'm sure of it because every year since we've been doing the show has been the warmest year on record It's always the warmest Headline mass gains of Antarctic ice sheet greater than losses You see they've only been reporting one side of the story

36:27 A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers. Lies! Fake news! This is a NASA document The research challenges the conclusions of other studies including the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change 2013 report which says Antarctica is overall losing land ice According to the new analysis of satellite data, the Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice per year from 1992-2001. That net gain slowed to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008 But still... The gain outweighs the losses And this is NASA! This wasn't reported Why would it be reported? It's against the... First of all let's start with a couple things I want to play two clips

37:24 One is CBS by the way, now that they've got rid of Scott Pelley has kind of I don't know what the deal is. Maybe he was off to rails but they seem to have softened on Trump. Well he was certainly the face of Trump hate there so that would be a reason to go if they're changing their mission And they've really softened on this climate thing, at least according to the rundown that they just did. And when you listen to it, you realize that what you just played, Tucker Carlson and both sides of political spectrum on this that are being debated on these cable networks is mostly just wonks people that follow the news so closely that they think this is a bigger deal than it is because the public doesn't seem to think so

38:13 In fact, when you listen to the CBS report only 2% of the American public give a crap about this. The White House defended the president today against a world of opposition to his decision to withdraw from the Paris Climate Accord. The deal signed by nearly 200 countries commits them to voluntarily reduce pollution linked to global warming. The President's chief defender heads the agency whose mission is in its title environmental protection. Chip Reid begins our coverage. The president made a very courageous decision yesterday in behalf of America. EPA chief Scott Pruitt, a leading voice in convincing President Trump to get out of the Paris climate accord today defended him against worldwide condemnation We have nothing to be apologetic about as a country Other top White House officials hit the airwaves

39:05 Making clear the president was focused not on the environment but on jobs. We're putting the American worker, the American economy first because he promised to protect American jobs and American interest in American workers It's a position that appears to have limited political downside A CBS News poll found that when asked what is the single most important problem for the government this year 13% volunteered that it's the economy and jobs just 2 percent said the environment and global warming Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Yeah! Uh-huh But they're stupid people John They don't know what's best for them A couple of things that are in this report that are telling One It starts off with the White House defended the president Wow That's what it said, its what he said Yeah surprise

40:02 He said the White House defended, the President is the White House. But I think that they have shills in there and they're surprised or something like that. Hey you're not supposed to agree with him! What do we pay you for? The second thing is they bring up the EPA guy without ever mentioning he's the guy who sued the EPA and really thinks of climate things as a hoax They didn't bring it up. Pelly would've brought it up He would have insisted it be in the report. They didn't even mention his name, did they? They still use his name at the beginning but that doesn't mean anything he's always on assignment now every show. Isn't that the same as fired? This is the guy by the way this guy right here is the guy who's gonna take over Now they also did this little trick

40:55 They did this little thing where they, instead of doing a poll or survey. They said 13% people volunteered... Excuse me I need some water. You mean lozenge? They said that 13 percent volunteered what does that even mean?! 13 percent of the people volunteered that the economy is more important 2 percent volunteered That means they did not ask the question people just said it That's what it sounds like yeah, so they got it down to 2% only 2% give a crap about this whole thing Even though. It's being played on cable networks like it's like is the end of the world well It is because we're no longer the leader of the free world

41:35 Well, there's that. So I found that to be interesting and it did balance in a little bit with part two which has got some stuff in if you want to play that before I have my kind of killer clip. Sure do! Former Secretary of State John Kerry negotiated the Paris Accord and said President Trumps decision was based on bad research. That's not a real study. That is industry-based study by people who oppose climate change action... Stop him for second Fake news. using reverse logic where he says it's not a hoax, it's not a hoax. You can't prove its a hoax and he goes on in a very defensive posture I find him fascinating. Study by people who oppose climate change action and who have been among the leaders in the whole theory of a climate hoax which by the way there is not one scientific fact that supports the notion in a peer-reviewed study that it's a hoax

42:48 global warming. A lot of it's a hoax, it's a hoax." Pruitt was asked repeatedly today if the president still believes that position from the campaign trail. Yes or no? Does the President believe that climate change is real and a threat? But he refused to give a direct answer so did White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer. that since apparently nobody else in the White House can. Yeah, I have not had an opportunity to have that discussion. Spicer also declined to explain exactly why the president did not simply invoke US power under the Paris Agreement to change the U.S. greenhouse gas emission targets to make them less onerous on American businesses Why renegotiate? The United States has the authority to simply reduce the target

43:37 Why not just do that because the president believes that it is in our country's best interest to renegotiate? What what kind of got lost in all this at my impression looking at the Rose Garden speech was not a good deal Revisit the deal. That was my impression We kind of put that in here at the end, that little last thing Spicer said. But I think they didn't want to just bring down their numbers which they could have done apparently and just say we're only going to do this and instead kick the whole thing out. The whole...I think it was one of these things where you kicked it out to actually make a point

44:19 And the point I think was made that we're not interested in this anymore and the public's got to start thinking differently and start hook line and sinker. The whole climate change process, which is you know most of my friends are all in on it they've never worked in science they don't think about it clearly can imagine being bull crap. So we had a situation PBS, which I don't know if the word's gotten back or maybe because their client stuck. The client, climate science reporting has never had a anti-global warming guy on it.

45:04 Except, I think somebody pointed this out so maybe you should want. So they brought this guy on, this guy Kirpin who is the head of an operation called American Commitment he's been around a long time and he's extremely sharp What is this American Commitment outfit? It's just a right wing thing that's not important but this guy He obviously memorized the script and prattled it off...I only have..I wasn't going to do both because Him on and then some lackluster guy saying well, we're all gonna die I don't know what he's talking about and then he comes back on again. I didn't have the second part I didn't want to do that because the first part was like they gave him a opening of about a minute or two He stuffed in so much information. I can't wait it was like it was like

45:53 Everyone was flat-footed as he went on and on and prattled about pretty much everything you really want to know about why Trump, this is the day before Trump gave up on the claim. This is, yeah I'm sorry this is the clip. Kirpin rips climate change. Now if the president is going to walk away from this agreement but it looks like he's going too and know you agree with that so help me understand make the best case why should leave Paris? Well I think the key point to understand is that the Paris treaty has no discernible impact on global average temperature and therefore the alleged climate benefits are illusory. This is in agreement that every country met its obligations according to the conventional EPA

46:35 would reduce global average temperature less than two-tenths of a degree in the year 2100. But, of course these countries are mostly not meeting their obligations we just heard from Germany their emissions are up in each of the last two years The Philippines have already withdrawn from this agreement and India which is allowed to increase emissions under this agreement it's building too many coal plants even meet their target they're gonna go well above it The US commitment would only avert an increase in temperature about 15 thousand thousandths of a degree by the year 2100. So there's really not much upside here, but there is tremendous downside because this agreement locks in those EPA regulations you were just talking about in the introduction—the Clean Power Plan which increased electricity prices about 20 to 30 percent that has a very negative impact on consumers across this country with no benefit to show for it and also commits the American taxpayer to pay the lion share of $100 billion per year Green Climate Fund, a direct wealth transfer to the rest

47:28 And so I think the reason the rest of the world likes this deal is that the United States cripples itself economically with regulations and then it pays the rest of the world for the privilege in doing so, in increased foreign aid. To me that's not leadership... Yeah! That IS leadership! That's exactly what everybody wants! Lead the world towards poverty! I'm convinced this is what the deal is. That's American losership and the president is right to act on that. Let me get Michael Oppenheimer here on this. A lot to unpack here but the substantive criticism that even people who favor the Paris Agreement are. It is a voluntary agreement, there are no real binding commitments Why do you think it is such a great deal that we ought to stay in it?

48:08 The Paris Agreement isn't perfect, but it's an important first step. And that is why the statements of Mr. Kirpin are totally out of context. In fact what is happening is global emissions of carbon dioxide have not increased in fact decreased a little over the last three years for the first time while the global economy was growing because countries moving to the new energy sources. It would be foolish to pull out of this agreement because, number one it would do great harm to our relations with our allies around the world and secondly it would condemn the US the world and future generations, our own children to a world with an unacceptable level of climate change. And it's a real pity because the Paris Agreement is the first time that all countries in the world put plans on the table to reduce emissions made commitments to reduce emissions including China which is the world's biggest emitter they're moving forward not only are they moving forward to reduce their emissions

49:09 Yeah, they're building 1100 new plants. Let's review China just so everybody remembers what happened because it was a big deal when it happened. China is not doing anything until 2030 and what that means is that China can bring its levels up to whatever they want to bring them too and then at 2030 they'll freeze them. So how is this smart? So this whole thing is a scam and I think that first guy, Kirpin said it right. It's just to soak us the American taxpayers for $100 million that gets distributed every place but here. 100 billion which is... 100 billion sorry The money's not important That's not a big... We'll just print more. I'm not too worried about that. It's just we've already printed quite a bit Yeah, it just makes No sense and

50:06 I would like to remind everyone in this economic discussion that currently, the current economics of windmill wind power that if you didn't have the subsidies because they're still heavily subsidized everywhere. They add to this point today they still cost more energy to make than they produce in their lifetime. They break And go ahead, look on the Googles for broken windmill parks. It's quite sad to see they also look really ugly when they're defunct and broken down Oh yeah and they stay there nobody takes them down No

50:41 Well, because it's still subsidized. You take it down you lose your money you lose your subsidy I'm sure of it yeah in the Netherlands this was a big scandal 10 years ago when they started their version of the green scam The people so every single windmill I'm talking about the big ones the big fuckers you know with the ones you see driving They're huge Yeah One blade one blade is on a special extra long wide body load and would they can't go under certain bridges. It's crazy how big these things are every single one of them is its own individual nonprofit Its own little individual entity and invested in that for tax reasons is Politicians, ministers members of Parliament you know celebrities other people have no captains of industry And they got all the tax deal the tax benefits but not the common man

51:35 They didn't. Well, my understanding when I was taken out to Northern Holland by Jan Eilman who runs a software company there's a lot of farmers in that area that have kind of given up farming because they could drop one of these windmills on their property and then they can't live in the area because the windmills make this eerie sound it makes very difficult to sleep so they've abandoned the farm and they just get a check but think we've done we've done a lot on this show over the years recently In fact where, what is the town outside of Austin here? Georgetown claims they're 100% green energy which is just a farce. It's a lie! What are we gonna do? Nothing I mean the face bag went nuts People were just throwing expletives left and right Fuck head Orange fuckhead I have to stop this show for a second and ask this question Yes please stop the show Why?!

52:38 What exactly is in your... Why do people want to believe in this so desperately? This is desperation. People are buy into this, despite whatever you want to throw at them. You throw climate data at him, you throw phony data at him, you try to explain how computer models work? It doesn't matter what you say! They are all into an extreme where they go nuts like you just said on Facebook, Facebag Why?! What is it in the whole climate thing

53:15 discussion that makes people so nuts and it's and the religion thing is I think yeah that there is that but I'm just I'm beside myself trying to figure it out. I have no real understanding of why? Let's presume, let's just presume for a moment you have been inundated by memes media memes internet means all your life since you were born And, you know the one that I saw when i was young was uh... You know, Mexicans on the Crazy Reefer! That was still out there in 64-65.

53:53 So you grow up with all of these different memes and this has been pounded into people's heads starting back in the 70s when it was global cooling. Didn't matter which way, we were all gonna die doesn't matter if it's too cold or too hot. And just pump the memes pump them pump them pump them and people become genuinely afraid fearful and I think that rational people who have been infected by these viruses of the mind really believe we're going to die. And that is why they are reacting so fiercely Now, they know that we probably won't die tomorrow So you know That's why they're not jumping out into the streets You know We can change our avatar or Twitter icon That will help But- They're fearful Absolutely terrified More terrified of that than of terrorism

54:45 And of course, this is actually terrorism. The people are being terrorized. What is causing the phenomenon whereby you can present them with countervening information, stuff that proves what someone else just said is bullcrap. Or somebody comes out of the blue and says well you know I'm one of those scientists and I have the documentation that shows this isn't right and this model's no good all that sort of thing And they if for example if we even published at some place they take it down They don't want to hear it. Or the guys, and we know who they are, we talk about these guys all the time I think Bill Nye is one of them If you even bring something like that up You should be jailed! Yeah exactly Instead you should SAVE THE WORLD That's what you should do Saving The World

55:44 I can only say that I am more and more convinced that the infection that people have is very, very deep. Deeply rooted, reinforced consistently... And for- and I mean, I'm almost ready to start believing in the- this is a one big simulation thing Like, yeah. I thought about this possibility. I thought about it being like a test It has to be! Yeah, I can't see any other reason how far can we push these subjects? And who's not buying into the tests? I mean some people... They're gonna get zapped Hey! There is something- We are the ones that should be afraid Yes exactly What is wrong with these two

56:31 Let's tweak the parameters a little bit. Clearly there is something wrong with this no agenda talk, bastards! That's how I imagine it. Yes it's something that concerns me and we have plenty of listeners that are in the category of being true believers by the way True Believer is a good book to read from Eric Hoffer and it probably explains a bit of this problem called The True Believer very good book A lot of true believers are listening to the No Agenda podcast and they pretty much kind of like what we do, but they will not veer a micron. Despite that fact that I have looking at...I'm looking at mudflats that haven't changed in capacity for 100 years. Let me ask you another question about rising sea. Yeah, I know little bit about weather and climate because I had to study to get a pilot's license when you're in a high pressure area

57:33 I'll just take an old trick. We used to take a milk bottle, you put a balloon over it and tape the straw onto it then it acts like a barometer when there's high pressure area then the balloon will start to concave into the opening of the milk bottle and the straw will go up showing you high barometric pressure That same pressure. Is it not capable of pressing down on the water to spread it towards the land? Or is that, am I completely insane?" I don't think so. I'm not so sure you have... Because I think about high and low pressures kind of balance out... You have isotopic lift there's all kinds of things Well, I mean there's like this sponge theory which is the one that gets me... Is that after-the-ball theory

58:15 No, the sponge there is the one that... The reason we haven't got any Pacific Ocean changes in the... Because you have too many sponges in the ocean? Australia's acting like a giant sponge. Oh, Australia again! Damn it. New Aussies sponging up all of our mess This won't stand. And the other thing that's floating around is the notion that, which by the way this notion is self-contradictory based on even what you just said The notion is well yeah we haven't had any real temperature changes or even though it has a lot of CO2 emissions increase Any temperature changes over the last number 10 20 years because the ocean has sucked up that heat

59:01 And of course, if the ocean is sucked up the heat the ocean would expand thus flooding my mudflats but that hasn't happened either. This whole thing is ridiculous! Yes yeah to us it is but after so all you have to do this would okay this would be the test but no one's going to do this because I think well you might be onto something about this actually being some sort of a test of the public All you'd have to do, in fact to make the test even more ludicrous they took these same guys who say it was going to be global cooling and they made them all switch to global warming. Including Holdren who was President Obama's science advisor he even switched from cooling to warming. He is a by climatologist If you took the funding for all of the papers

59:53 And you change the principles of what you're looking for to make it look as though there's no climate change whatsoever. Not that natural either, just none! That's what you'd end up with paper after paper after paper that would say exactly that this is really well Hold on hold on second then let's do this because obviously two old straight white guys Talking about climate. There's a number of huge large amount of our producing audience to sit there shut up But we can hypothesize on the simulation

1:00:34 So let's assume, presume that this is a simulation and let's see how far we can whoever is doing it. Let's see how far we can push people what would the next step be seeing as we now have this... It looks like a setback in the simulation itself. Yeah, the simulation scenario has been upset by this idiot president as they would have. Yes yes the

1:01:13 Really, I think have more fun doing that. Yes but what when we tweak the model? What would happen to convince people that they are wrong if something needs to happen to America clearly well No no That's not gonna do it. It's not gonna do is know that does not work We need something we need something really good I don't know what it could be. I have no idea, going along with your thesis...I haven't got a clue. Well i think we would have to have a water event A sea rising crazy out of control It worked very well with New York that was a good start but it wasn't violent enough We need tsunami- we need tidal wave When was the last time they used to call it tidal wave? Now its Tsunami Let's get a tidal wave going

1:02:05 Well, there has to be an earthquake. Dig up the earthquake machine! We know that we know that there have been military tests done off the coast of Australia this is not a fabrication or something I just made up With bombs, underwater bombs and you can start earthquakes and tsunamis and stuff like that. Why not? Maybe... How about Rhode Island? Rhode Island's had one before it's a hundred years now at least when was the big tidal wave in Rhode Island My mom was there. Well, you got the right guy. You got Sheldon Whitehouse in Rhode Island whose bitches and moans about climate change more than any other senator. Good good good. He always makes the claim that they've lost their clamming and they're inundated with water already and the poor little state is gonna go away completely and he's trying to defend it from climate change which is a big threat to Rhode Island according to him. Yeah well I'm gonna call Rhode Island then

1:03:02 Alright, then Rhode Island would be a good spot for this because you got the you have an ally in Sheldon That's yeah. You got the right guy leading the pack there It's I have family living there but other insignificant from the island get wiped out Hey anything for science and he think for the simulator like I could stop the simulation? I can't stop the simulation The only thing you can do is stop the simulation in your own head And that's what we're here for and that's why I want to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John sue where the C stands for climate is religion. Dvorak in the morning to you, Mr Adam Curry in the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there and in the morning to everyone in the war room no agenda stream calm thanks for being there doing what you need to do very very good and I want to thank Melvin Gibstein also known as John Blitt for the artwork on episode nine or three four of the title that was weaponized tech

1:04:03 This was a nice piece of art. This was Hillary Clinton morphing from a lizard into Hillary, which it was not just something we like to do forth that's something we just like to do but it came up as a serious question from Kara Swisher about her being a lizard. Say that five times. Yeah, let's just listen to the bit Do you blame and I'm gonna just use Facebook because that's where a lot of this was done especially around the fake news which was either the Pope was voting for Trump or there was one particular when I got an argument with Facebook people about you being a lizard That was going around And the Facebook people she's referring to was of course Mark Zuckerberg.

1:05:00 And I'll be honest, I don't know if you're a lizard or not. But the fact of the matter is that I'm guessing you're not a lizard. Mm-hmm okay Is she dead yet? Has she been killed? She had an unfortunate accident? They don't do it right away. Hot tub... Okay, she has to go This is no good Anyway Noah Jenda ArtGenerator dot com is where you can upload all your art We really appreciate it ComicsRid blogger man for years he's just been bitching and moaning and now he's on a tear We'll see what he comes up with today. But it was nice to see our new guy, Melvin here and it was beautiful. Beautiful piece of people that they killed through phases. I will relate the same story related. I'm going to stop eventually.

1:05:46 But I didn't realize it, but one of the guys who kind of took over the place and he was like hitting week after week after week after week. It was unbelievable just Martin JJ. And so it was just like nailing this is unbelievable and they'd be tired. He's showing off yeah quit for awhile these guys another. So I looked his history up because you can do that on the art generator. You could click on the arts then go back to see everything they've ever submitted. And he went for I would say years of submitting Art you never know there was he never gave up no and then all of a sudden he got the hang of it Whatever that is just pumping him out when you show me He was bumping him out cuz he got like it Was like he's like anything else It's like it was like some sort of us something happens in your brain if you do something over and over again repetitive Yeah, yeah, and then next thing. You know boom you're really good. It's the light bulb moment

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1:14:10 And some jobs karma to help keep getting by best not to read but certainly spare the quote Certainly share the court at the end as I work. Okay blah blah two of the same No, this is very odd it's a very interesting little thing he's got here to say You gotta record you try to get some people to listen to the show and he said oh The two are not the same because of the current phallocentric society's oppression of women. Oh, anyway I don't know... Unfortunately because he limited us what we can read, I botched it Anyway, he thought it was a genre you'd like to share. The phallo-centric society's oppression of women is what he wanted to get across from a female who was one of those types

1:15:05 It will give him some job karma. You need some job karma after that for sure jobs Jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs you've got karma Oh, okay i can now summarize what he was trying to get across He asked a hypothetical question, or he asked just a simple question being contrarian. And he said why is it okay for women or men to say that he's a dick but not she's a cunt? Why is that not okay?

1:15:44 Why is that not okay? And the answer from one of the women, he said the two are not the same because of the current phallocentric society's oppression of women. Which I know what that person means and i can agree with that. I know it says I shouldn't but actually do From their perspective. I think the whole thing is bogus well in the UK they use that word freely and does not carry the same weight That's true, by the same if you say bloody it's like that's a worst thing You can say people freak out very odd how phallocentric we have a phallocentric society what if that changed? I think were in the phallocentric age And they were in the phallocentric ag- We're ending the phallocentric age The end of the phallocentric age! It's not good

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1:18:28 And I should mention that i fixed the support page. Oh good! There's a number off for some unknown reason, a bunch of links to PayPal's... convoluted system for making, saving buttons and doing it posting them and then making them like broke. So I had to change just break that they just changed the API and they said something changed. I have no idea how Brooke, but it broke and it broke consistently so you had to go back and fix that by starting over more or less with the, well how that links those links work. And I did also change the little

1:19:09 The little link at the bottom that sent you to the Chinese foreign site. Oh, there goes that fun! Well you know if anybody wants to go there it's noagendaartgenerator.info which was the original URL for the art generator until we got dot com oh I didn't realize that yeah and then somebody grabbed it thinking it was some popular thing that would generate lots of hits Yeah, I wanted to talk just briefly about algos. The algos. Every time i hear algo, I think of Al Gore. I think of algae in the ocean but algos

1:19:53 I am really making as much of a study of this in my life as possible. And I do that just with, you know full disregard for my own safety and privacy so but i'm putting myself out there it started with the Amazon Echo um we've done we did a lot on that before anyone even thought it was going to be anything now it's...I'm sorry to say it's a whole product sector although everyone scoffed at me So the Algos and I got it. And, you know after the Hillary stuff on Recode about how you know, Trump and what was it? Encyclopedia Britannica who are those guys

1:20:35 I don't remember this. Yeah, yeah the Bannon, they traded Bannon and Kellyanne Conway for that crazy story? Yeah for the data company. How come i always forget it? Right the data company Hillary's theory that to join forces they had to take Kellyanne Conway. Cambridge Analytica thank you Warren. And they had the best data, the best algos. They had the bots and then on that same because I was looking at some stuff on the YouTubes And Reed Hastings from Netflix was on. Who, by the way Reed Hastings a very interesting guy I like him and i like how he looks He looks like he's on an elevated plane This guy is so rich So successful So happy And also really doesn't give a crap about net neutrality He freely says Hey it doesn't bother our business model anymore We'll support the fight through the industry associations But no we got our own deals in place we don't give a crap

1:21:33 Right, well they got their little appliance. That's all that counts Yeah I have to say like the guy and then he starts talking about... He's good by the way in the industry of people that work with him yeah? He's looked upon as some sort of a crazy genius. I can see that I can see that. He came up with some good stuff and a lot of people enjoy it And so he was telling about the algos that they use and I'm very impressed because yes, whenever i hit Netflix it's usually showing me something I'm interested in seeing. In fact...I didn't even know this was a movie! Robert De Niro the comedian? Have you ever seen this? Yeah of course the movie with Jerry Lewis

1:22:12 No, no not Jerry Lewis. Every other celebrity is in it Edie Falco Danny DeVito Oh no I thought you meant the movie that I think it's called The Comedian It's called The Comedian and Robert de Niro was a comedian Yeah it has Harvey Keitel And Jerry Lewis is the guy he kidnaps No! That's...it's a different movie about the comedian Okay I think its a Netflix original I mean, it's just a bunch of comics and De Niro. Well, De Niro learned how to do stand up when he made that movie with Jerry Lewis. So I've been watching a lot of stand-up, a lot of stand-up and Netflix has been the algo has been feeding me more stand-up. And it seems like they did this. I mean shit if you can tell three jokes Netflix will give you money to go make everyone's living from what I can tell. I got to tell you I look at this De Niro movie. I'm like everyone made bank on this everywhere every hey

1:23:04 Hey! And Hastings freely admits $100 million for these projects. Hey everybody, jump on board none of these a-holes these guys are stupid! Money! And I think the product is genuinely good so it somehow... It doesn't seem like a stretch to go hmm he likes comedy let's see oh here's a movie The Comedian maybe that'll work um but there's an algo i'm very very concerned about This new apartment that we received, which does not exist according to the address verification systems. It's just... it's phantom! It's a ghost apartment. Every apartment here comes with a nest and the Google Nest for if you... it was purchased by Google The Nest thermostat is supposed to have an algo and attracts you And then it sets your house the way

1:23:59 that they do advertising, which is to show you the product you just bought. It's kind of a heating system isn't it? It's just the thermostat! But no but it turns stuff on and off I mean what kind of heating do you have as a baseboard heating you got a worst air we have every apartment has an HVAC unit so we have our own contained unit and which can you know so can turn it cold or hot okay Here's the problem I have. So, and you have two different modes you can just say or three really could say heat only cool only or then this illustrious auto mode which it seems to pop into an Auto mode will say well if it goes above 72 degrees Then we're going turn the air conditioner on if it goes below 68 degrees then We'll turn the heat on so that's kind of what kind of what it does Which makes no sense in Texas in the summer but all right

1:24:50 But I'm here most of the day. I'm here, I'm prepping and doing stuff... And every single day around... And maybe I did this once when we just moved in? I don't know why but I turned up the heat around 11am everyday at 11am it goes up to 80! It turns on the heat to 80. I turn it down 3 minutes later its back up to 80 again There is something seriously wrong with this. And do they just... I would take a sledgehammer to it! Well, you can decouple it which I might have to do. I'm very surprised that so- It's lame The algo is no good. Apparently random samples and this shit is happening everywhere in our lives and we're not aware of it as aware of it as we should be Yeah You should take a sledgehammer to a lot of it

1:25:42 Now this can affect your money, this can affect your health. It can affect your sleep and what if Google just goes on the fritz? You think oh I'm good everything's fine i'm not at the office away from home and then it just does stuff well they had an issue nest had a huge issue with their fire alarms that you could buy, those little smoke alarms. And my wife bought a bunch of them for the house and they would start to talk to each other I guess and then they started going off for no apparent reason and every other one would say well if one's going off I should go off too!

1:26:24 Oh, the cool kids are going off? There's nothing going on. There's no way to stop it She had to send them all back and get her money back. They were defective. That was great Hey I watched the Megyn Kelly interview at SPIEF 17 Russians need some help man with their acronyms St. Petersburg International Economic Forum 17 SPIEF what a bunch of Someone needed to say in that meeting, hey Vladimir it doesn't flow bro. Come up with something else. Speef! You know I before you played that which i want to hear because i didn't watch it uh they had vladimir on some of doing they're doing these clips of people bitchin about Trump leaving the climate accord yeah and there was a small moment where he said something in english at the end oh really

1:27:23 So I have it, this guy's called Putin ISO and this is the only thing he said in English that i could tell but it was right at the end of his speaking in Russian about... He didn't think this was that big of a deal that Trump left. But he's a Russian! But he said this Don't worry be happy No he did not say that Yes he did Don't worry be happy Somewhere Bobby McFerrin is killing himself. Oh no, Putin's using my lyric! This is great this one is going into the archive thank you very much John I like that now has this Megyn Kelly interview aired yet on NBC? I thought it was supposed to air today maybe Sunday

1:28:14 I think. Oh, and maybe...I mean i'm a little confused because she's sitting on stage at the and the room is filled with you know but I don't know who speefs um and she's asking her questions on stage uh on stage and they have translators and I spent a good amount of time this morning one of the reasons I was late really tightening up the translation and chopping out all the bits that were unnecessary to make these pieces listenable and certainly in length But I don't know if she did another sit-down interview. That's what I was expecting a sit down one on one Charlie Rose Maybe this is two maybe there's two of these

1:28:50 Well, I think the questions and his answers are not entirely unexpected but there is some humor in there as well. And I have a four-parter series so one of the few things we can do here on The No Agenda Show which you cannot get in mainstream is we can play something in context pretty much its entirety not just pulling clips to shove viral memes into your mind about what you should believe and will start with the obvious question about the Russian intervention in the US elections. Meghan has no more Fox News background, she is now working for NBC. Her hair... I know she's growing it out but this is- She should have either waited or done something else. As an introductory here's Megyn Kelly back new Megyn, new network, new vibe? I don't know if you've seen The Do

1:29:43 No. Yeah, it's just kind of mid-length It's not... you know it's a little ratty It's no really... I don't know..it's like Dana Perino When I see her with long hair also it irks me She is no longer special I'm talking from a television producer standpoint Well, I don't know. Maybe these women don't have a clue. Generally speaking they want to look their best on television and makeup people are professionals? They look great! That's not the point. I just think you look a little more special as a television persona with shorter hair The pixie look! I mean, Gilfoyle does she spray her hair over her boobs every morning? So they just lie there on top of her mounds. You got to spray... She did one day she was using hairspray and then she picked up the wrong 3M adhesive. Alright. And used that once and discovered it was the best. Alright.

1:30:44 Here we go. But all 17 of the United States intelligence agencies have concluded that the Russians did interfere with our election, and these are nonpartisan career professionals. Republicans and Democrats alike on Capitol Hill including President Trump's supporters and some are your defenders who have seen the classified intelligence report have all accepted this conclusion. And even private non-partisan security firms say the same that Russia interfered with the US election

1:31:24 Are they all wrong? Have you read those reports? Non-classified version. Well, the non classified version which is null and void and who was your tailor what about the pockets what about the body So he goes straight into this thing. Oh, unclassified report sure who's your tailor? Who did the buttons in the pockets I mean This is this has got to be Russian humor because the crowd was loving it and the Russians are the best at this kind of oh yeah Yeah, it was very good. Your tailor what about the pockets or what about the buttons do have any claims about this suit About the bottoms no they are

1:32:03 firmly tied, but you can't wear this suit. Can it happen? Yes, it did happen with one of our stand-up comedians Mr. Aikin and you've been telling me now about the non classified versions I read those reports even in those reports there is no specific evidence, no facts just assumptions allegations and conclusions based on the allegations nothing more you know I love how the trans- and they switch translators too there's all sudden you hear a different voice it very interesting. I love how they are actually putting intonation into it They're not just translating like is this crazy? What do you think what

1:32:44 But almost like Italian. Yeah, it's a high level translations. High level translate. Yeah, high. Nothing more you know if there is something specific concrete we could discuss that like in one of the entities I previously used to work for They said we need all the evidence addresses, all the names and the surnames. Provide all that to us with respect to independent sources." I think what he's saying is hey if you can't say who really did it We can verify that they were our guys or not or whoever it was. Independent sources there are no independent sources in this world and You know the recent

1:33:26 The recent appointments with your special services point to the fact that there are any likings, any attitudes. So I believe that we should stop this idle prattle which is harmful and I believe this is like transferring the internal political bickering of the United States beyond the borders of the country, outside on international stage trying to resolve political matters with the help of foreign policy tools and national affairs. And that is detrimental to international affairs in the global economy and issues of global security and fight against terror which is detrimental. I have just cited example when

1:34:10 The Washington, D.C., did not recommend the professionals to go to an anti-terrorist event of Russian Federation which is nonsense and these people this very same people initiate and are behind those reports I believe that this should stop as soon as possible we should start in resume normal cooperation well In addition, I can tell you that worldwide there are not so many countries that have the privilege of sovereignty. I wouldn't like to offend anyone. This is good, so now we're into the... you know you guys are pussies because you can't do anything and who does he attack first? But what has been said by Madame Merkel is conditioned by the long amassing grudge she's been harboring just believe me no matter what response afterwards. I like this calling out Merkel on her long-held grudge

1:35:10 I find that to be... What's the grudge? Eastern Bloc hates Russia. She was an East German. Long-term grudge, she hates it. Hates it! Well I thought they were good buddies? That's what we led to believe four years ago... Well you hear him calling her out no matter what she says in response. She has a grudge and he is going to explain here the grudge because she has no power. She's been harboring just believe me no matter what she responds afterwards that the sovereignty is limited And inside the military and political alliances, it's officially limited. The charters prescribe all prohibitions. And in practice it's even stricter and more stringent. Nothing is permitted but for what is allowed. And who allows that? The leadership. But where is the leadership? Far away. India is one of such countries. China may be cited as another example.

1:36:12 some other countries, not numerous though. And if such attempts to guide someone to dictate their will to someone from inside or outside the country will continue they will be detrimental to international affairs but I reiterate in closing this response this should come to an end sooner later." Oh he's saying... What? Well what is going to come to and end? The EU? That's what that's what i understand Yeah, the EU and all these other power centers. So she doesn't have a grudge against Putin then? She has a grudge against this the EU system that she supports and props up? No I don't think so! I think she has the grudge against Putin there's something going on with Putin in Merkel that is uh why would he say this otherwise i found to be certainly noteworthy well then I'm assuming

1:37:05 Kelly gets to the bottom of it. Oh, please this type of different disinformation campaign is intentionally difficult To find a hardcore proof of now and this is great now She's going to be miss cyber expert is gonna ask the Russian the ruski meanwhile all he's thinking is I tell you Megan, the short hair was better. It's other factors and what the experts say is that this couldn't have been faked That it's not one factor that is a hundred factors that point to Russia They say...it's the forensics, it's digital fingerprints What? Everything points toward Russia John everything! A hundred factors that- Hundred factors She's gonna give you three but there are 100 of them

1:37:49 ...is that this couldn't have been faked. That it's not one factor, that it's a hundred factors that point to Russia They say... It's the forensics, it's the digital fingerprints, it's the IP addresses The malware, the encryption keys, the specific pieces of code That all of them All of them! She forgot bots What happened to the bots, Megan? Point to Russia and none of them points to anyone other than Russia Ohhhh you must be... the worst! Какие отпечатки What fingerprints? Hooves prints or horn prints Horn prints hoof prints Talking about IP addresses they can be invented you know there are very many specialists that can be invented or fix it up, you know

1:38:35 A kid of yours can send it. A three year old girl that is three years old can perpetrate such an attack." This I found to be very unfriendly what he did, so he says correctly what fingerprints IP addresses anyone could make this and then he makes it very personal by saying your 3-year-old daughter could do it. I found that to be very creepy That's not...I'm sure cultural differences but Wait does she have a three year old daughter? She might. Well if she does then isn't this like one of those mafia threats? That's what that's the way I felt it let's take a look at her. If she doesn't have a three-year old daughter then this is just him ranting well let's take a look uh i don't know family life family where's fam personal life no it says nothing about kids well maybe maybe he plans on giving her one

1:39:32 Megan, would you like a three-year old? I have many three year olds here. Would you like one of my three year olds? Donald Trump liked my 3 year old! Such an attack and they present it like this They can pass it off like this And these specialists can invent anything and then they will blame someone else These are not proofs These are trying to shock responsibility We don't have the problem The problem is inside the American policy. Here we go! The Trump team has turned to be more efficient during the electoral campaign sometimes I thought that well he overdoes, he overkills... This is interesting this translation is pretty good and what he's saying is you know I was watching that shit and I'm like oh man you're a little over the top D don't do that

1:40:18 What? She has two kids, one's a little girl and one is a little boy. I don't have the ages but they're three is within the range We know where your children are Megan, don't worry. It's just a three-year old You can make another one with me! ...has turned to be more efficient during the electoral campaign Sometimes I thought that well he overdoes he overkills I thought sometimes during the campaign but it turned out that he was right He has been able to find approach and reach out those electors whom he hoped for and they voted for him And other team

1:40:58 made a mistake and they don't want to recognize this mistake right now. They don't want to say that they were not wise enough." Uh-oh! "-It's easy to say it's not our fault, it's all... It's the Russians..." This is great! He could be on Fox News right now! Yeah, he could. He can be your host. It's easy to blame the Russians but you know Hillary, you blow! "...they intervened, they interfered. It's like anti-Semitism. The Jews are to blame!" Ha! This is great. It's like anti-Semitism, just blame the Jews." The crowd cracked up on this one and even I was taken aback for a moment and then say well shit you're right it is exactly like that! I have Russian friends who are really not speaking anymore because they have an accent they don't want to talk

1:41:53 Oh, you're Russian. Yeah it's the Jews. They intervened they interfered It's like anti-sanitism the Jews are to blame You are an idiot because the Jews are to blame and uh...you know what such Such moods lead too they will not end up in nothing good one should work think how to rectify things and you have mentioned disinformation. What is information? One of the one of the stove, stove piping facts by hackers is... I like stove piping facts by hackers! To me that's just something something that you... What does it mean?! Who cares!?

1:42:34 If you're a hacker, you're stove piping facts. Well it's stovepipe! You stovepipe the facts down into the people's brain. One of the leaks by hackers is that the head of Madame Clinton's electoral office was not behaving properly against with respect to other candidates of the Democratic Party, but then when that appeared in public she acknowledged it was true and she handed in her resignation. So that was a truthful fact." That's Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Donna Brazile and that was from the emails

1:43:12 That happened before the alleged Russian hack. And who was the author of the leak? Doesn't it matter, it is important to have a look at that consider that apologize to people and say that we'll never ever do that again But what did they do instead they said it's not our blame It's uh...it's the Russians were the Russians dealing with all that trying to rush one of the candidates for the Democratic Party party and prejudice of someone else. It was in between themselves, just stop that please." There you go! Well now wait a minute so now Megan she can follow up on that since he seems to be steamrolling her yes to follow up on that she goes after him by making the claim and making it clear

1:43:58 Well, it would be logical because Hillary in 2012 went and did everything she could to submarine the Russian elections. So it'd make nothing but sense that you would try to screw her over. So it makes some sense in that regard what do you say about that Vlad? I think- And that's what she did. I think that is not what she said. Again, for some reason, I am not on their same wavelength as this conversation. You didn't go to J school perhaps. Did you go to J-school? No, God no. Well there you go! It does come up in the conversation I believe... That's a plus. Yeah but Megan was still kind of stuck on this uh on the Russians did it, the disinfo which has not really been a word we've been using, it's fake news This was noticeable on the international political stage We don't use the term fake news even though everyone in the world uses it

1:44:57 It's now dis-info for some reason. But also Trump also thinks you did it, Vlad. Even President Trump has said now that he believes Russia did it so its not just people who don't want President Trump in the office and the difference between the hacking and the disinformation is real. He's going, wait a minute. What is this blonde bimbo saying now? What is the blonde bimbo saying? And the difference between the hacking and the disinformation... Oh come on once again You see how they change voices all of a sudden They got a different guy in who was doing he's actually doing the little the little in-between bits

1:45:35 where Vladimir's going, oh come on this again and they translate it. I think that that's new for the Russians. Oh come on once again. Into the Democratic National Committee and hacked into Hillary Clinton's campaign emails but that they also perpetuated a campaign of disinformation that involved putting out fake news stories through Russian controlled entities like RT and Sputnik and those then were pushed by aggregators and what they're called bots. Whoa! She's taking Hillary's line, she's buying it hook line and sinker this is the NBC line

1:46:16 Yeah. Yeah, bots did it those two bastions of the ratings which is RT and Sputnik you can look them up they're really high in the ratings but it doesn't matter because bots bots pushed it was the bots now we know what happened thank you finally And what they're called bots on Twitter and elsewhere specifically targeted at voters who were potentially pro-Trump Stop. That is not the conclusion that the intelligence services reached

1:47:01 I never heard or read any of that in any classified or unclassified report. That's not the... anyone, for one thing it makes no sense No the only person who is propagating that is Hillary Clinton because we heard her say this Poor Megan! I wonder if she has always been like this? Maybe was a really hard time for her at Fox I guess it probably was. Or Trump, and that is the conclusion they have reached All of us should take the American mass media's role model you know? Meghan has been demonstrating today high class in her profession because i have just cited He called her a hooker! I know he called her a hooker

1:47:47 High class in her profession. I'm sorry, I can hear it. And the fact is that director handed in her resignation. Once again, she says it's about disinformation. What kind of disinformation? I can't see any manifestation thereof. And what President Trump has been saying, just show me the quote. He won he said because of the Russian intervention I don't remember him saying so. He finally came around to saying I think Russia did it and

1:48:39 And he said I don't think you'll do it again. Well, you see it seems that's a very new voice again They did they kill that first get that second guy like nah? Hey, hey Boris, you know good Let me do translations as a very very serious question of world politics And this is an impression or what seems to you that's you're talking about. This is not just as simple as having the interviewer writing article in a newspaper, ask for the interference look at what your colleagues are doing... In our country they have been deep- This is fantastic! Megan look at what your colleagues are doing in our country See that's we're talking about this is not just as simple as having interview

1:49:25 He's turned the tables on her. This is something she should have brought up as the rationale for them doing the bad deeds earlier, which is a question I thought she should have asked but she didn't. She now flat-footed it. Now exactly! The steamroller is on top of her They're very poor. This is a terrible interview. Yep, you are writing not... And bad hair! I mean it's two strikes as far as i'm concerned As simple as having an interviewer writing article in the newspaper as for the interference look at what your colleagues are doing In our country they have been deep down and our domestic policies Doing what they weren't enjoying themselves on a systemic basis

1:50:07 bases for many years. They've been unceremoniously, grossly interfering within our domestic affairs at the level of diplomatic embassies. This has to stop." So Putin is saying, shame on you for even suggesting that. Do you have any idea what your colleagues Megan? so he means the press He's not even talking about the NGOs Your colleagues Megan have been interfering in our crap for years with all the stuff they write and you know Voice of America was set up for this And we have tons of radio and television stations all over the East

1:50:45 for this very reason. And he calls her out on it, so you'd obviously expect her to respond but don't worry she doesn't." Well she could I would say that if you didn't say that i would have predicted wrongly apparently yes that she would have said well if you're referring just operations such as the voice of america and other outlets that our government does support they are giving accurate reports unlike your operations do. Yeah, good luck with that. No, she totally switched topics... This is the last clip I have and you've heard them all in order this is it this is the interview as she's not very good no and well I think it's good for us to hear but I like the answers uh I don't like to see someone fail but I liked seeing her fail in this case because this was her big moment to shine hair wrong wrong questions no follow-up

1:51:45 We know that Assad has used chemical weapons before and Russia entered into an agreement in 2013 to stop that. I mean, Russia acknowledged that in 2013 when it acknowledged to try to stop that by Assad. The only question is whether he launched the chemical weapons attack that happened a couple of months ago. And I just want to ask you—press you a little further on this because we all saw the video of the suffering dying children That was the reason that President Trump dropped the bomb. Do you deny because Assad denies? I like that term drop the bomb, she's confusing things here he did drop the bomb The Moab, the mother of all bombs on Afghanistan It was... They never dropped a bomb Those weren't bombs those were cruise missiles so they didn't drop a bomb Yeah the ones on Syria they were cruise they were tomahawks

1:52:36 Yeah, from Drop the Bomb. Do you deny? Because Assad denies that those tapes are real it's he's purporting to tell us not to believe our lying eyes do you believe those tapes are fake? First when President Obama and I agreed to work together to destroy chemical weapons in Syria we assumed that Syria had it but we never recognized that Assad had used it so please be more precise Secondly, as for those people who were killed or who suffered because of the use of weapons including chemical weapons this is false information.

1:53:15 As of now, we are absolutely confident that this is just a provocation. President Assad didn't use chemical weapons. All of this was orchestrated in order to stage him and accuse him. Moreover our intelligence services have got information that another district of Syria not far from Damascus there were plans to reproduce the scenario and we made these plans publicly those who had been planning these actions thought it better not to engage in these actions. I didn't hear about this, what he's claiming... Yeah yeah i haven't heard it either! This is like totally new to me Well he says that they made it public He says he made it public there was another scheme afoot to do the exact same thing and to blame it on the Assad regime but they heard that we made it public and then for some reason they stopped If I could just follow up on that though because the bodies of the victims were autopsied at Turkey's

1:54:15 Andara Forensic Medicine Institution. The autopsies were witnessed by officials from the World Health Organization and from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, and they concluded that the victims were attacked with sarin gas." This is a beautiful response he gives here. "...are we really to believe that the whole thing was staged? That everybody was in on it?" You see this is only how she can think... She can only—and this is why his answer's beautiful you'll hear in a minute She can only think, well you're so full of crap because it was sarin gas and you're telling me that everybody the World Health Organization, everybody was inca hoots really? Really? That's what you're telling me?!

1:55:13 So he said, hey just because it's sarin gas doesn't mean that he did it. That doesn't prove anything! No it doesn't but you know... It's like the simplest answer and because she's on her back foot she's already blown the whole thing. She'll never get into this. We have to understand who is to blame And now just one little zinger? Otherwise, if there is no true investigation it's only going to play into the hands of those who orchestrated it. I'd like to ask you a question why didn't everyone go right away to inspect the airbase to this spot where chemical weapons allegedly had been used? Don't ask questions like that! Why didn't they want to see the aircraft that had been allegedly used to perform this strike

1:56:03 No, no. We just believe it." The answer is very simple because they were afraid that everything the truth would come to light what you are telling me doesn't convince me of anything It just persuades me that we'd better not engage in a tag of war there or speculate. We've got to pull our efforts together to counter real threats, and we know what these real threats are. The US is very far. Yes, there was an explosion there. People suffered which we offer our condolences. But we also know what terrorists is all about, and no one should try to use terrorists to address short-term political interests."

1:56:55 Particularly, Megan. You and your country there should not be using terrorists because you're too pussy to fight. Bad things come of that. To use terrorists to address short-term political interests? Even though there are attempts at that... Yes, there are attempts at using terrorists against a Why use them? Because no one else would fight. I do not think it's worthwhile using these terrorists today, because tomorrow it is going to cost you a lot. When al-Qaeda was created in Afghanistan to fight against the Soviet Union they didn't know that it would strike the US on 9-11 We've got to think about negative ramifications in the long term

1:57:37 Oh man, Meg and Kelly. Whoa! You got butt-slammed! And you know that Brian Williams is sitting at home going damn it, damn it they should have sent me? Well I'm sure he would have done a better job. So anyone would've done a better job. The question is what kind of a job are we gonna see by Oliver Stone who's also interviewing Putin, who has already done it And it's going to be a Showtime special. Oh, and from the clips I've seen of it is CBS plugs in a lot now. The clips I've seen of it as Putin driving he's driving his car while Oliver Stone sits in the passenger seat drills him. That's great. Hey look at drive your run in my Lada is a very good car very good car It cost very well very well hey we got to stop doing this Russia stuff because I just got a text from Sergine Naftaliyev

1:58:30 He's Russian. Yeah, he's like great episode today now we got to stop now Now they're on to us. If you're blue and you don't know where there is fake news Why don't you get your Putin on the wrist? Dressed up like a million dollar trooper Trying not to look like Anderson Cooper Super pooper Come let's mix Where John Podesta walks with kids Oh I mean pizzas in his midst Putin on the wrist. There you go, everybody. Putin on the wrist. Boom! Putin with comedians in cars. That's the podcast. Well I've got a clip although i could like to put it off maybe till the thing Mike Morrell was on... Oh no, The CBS Hillbot Shill

1:59:25 I think he spoke a little out of, you know, a little bit off. But I think he didn't follow script. He did write. He didn't follow script right? Right. Oh is doing a lot about it again right? Back to write. Write but there's a bit in here this is him on Charlie Rose and he's always I think intellectually trying to impress Charlie Rose oh god yeah so So he says stuff, right? He says stuff that is... I think there's a bit in here. Because I've been baffled by one thing. What is it about Trump that the CIA hates so much- Because they run the show and he's not running it! Well there's that. There's that but

2:00:14 The CIA also, the last president they assassinated according to just a popular belief. His popular belief was Kennedy and I saw a documentary on Kennedy when it was an early documentary that showed at the Pacific Film Archives within a few weeks of their opening at Cal Berkeley And it was a document, it was the craziest thing I've ever seen. In fact, I couldn't even watch the whole thing because it was so bad but now I'd like to go track it down and watch again. It discussed the different mafia operations that had taken control of the highest offices and Kennedy was part of that and that's one of the reasons they killed him because he was too connected with this Sam Giaccona whoever it

2:00:59 Who was Sam Giancana? He was one of the heads of the families. And this is with a connection between Frank Sinatra, Sam Giancana, Marilyn Monroe all these you know these it was she it was sleazy and it has a lot to do with that fact that dad Kennedy there were the original old man Joe the bootlegger The bootlegger was always connected to the I he was he was the head of the Irish mob And so there's, I think a belief that the CIA is actually a little bit like the Turkish army used to act when they would find somebody that was just going to be an Islamist and take him out. Take over the country for awhile then give it back to elected official That's just far-out theory

2:01:50 But there's one element in this thing that Morrell brings up that maybe explains a little bit. Because you get the sense of the CIA just doesn't like this guy, whether he... You know because they can make him kind of do what by giving them information. It's not like they can't control the president with good information but let's listen to Morell. This is Mike Morel on Charlie Rose discussing the three things that he thinks are reasons to investigate Trump In fact, that's what he says.

2:02:35 and the Russians. The first, which Jim Comey had earlier said the FBI was indeed investigating was did any Trump associates conspire with the Russian in their interference of our election? Did any of them help the Russians choose the material to be released, for example? For maximum impact. Help them think about the timing of releasing the material for maximum impact right did anybody do that second is This is great I love the clandestine voice Now just regarding that

2:03:21 Have you heard this? You've heard this, right that this is one of the things they wanted to look into. Yeah well This is what Hillary keeps saying. This is the big deal. This is the big whopper Is that the Trump organization told him what content To direct towards who and they were just a mechanism Exactly so he's just reiterating that Like a Filipino click farm really How about this one How big of a cue do I have to do? Let's just try that again and then we'll edit it all out. Okay, go! How about this one... Second is did Russian organized crime launder money through the Trump Organization

2:04:07 over an extended period of time. Remember, one of the president's sons I forget which one said we you know Russian money is flowing in right? Right! And there has been some... There has been some.. You know there is enough there to at least ask that question If anybody in the Trump organization knew that it was Russian organized crime money, that would be a crime. And even if they didn't know then the question becomes did they do due diligence required under US law to know where foreign money is coming from? So that's an issue that needs to be investigated I hope... The third thing that needs to happen is that we have to get rid of all these people who are trying to make us look like we're doing something wrong.

2:04:49 This is just the tax return thing, I believe. Like oh show us your taxes so we can see what Russian money... I don't think so! I disagree that would even be on the taxes It wouldn't but that's what it's being used for. I've heard this. I have not heard this at them the Russian mob was money laundering through the Trump organization for the last 10 years? No not that specific Well that's kind of what he's implying. Yeah you're right, you're right. It's news to me and this is a thing that the CIA would know about in advance I think they know it all the money because their money launderers themselves they got the drug business so they'd be well connected enough to know that this is going on if it's going on I think this is the reason we were all bent out of shape and that does

2:05:31 Does that tie into the so-called pings, DNS pings back and forth between the Russian bank server and the Trump marketing server? Yes. There were just little subtleties about them, Russian banks and this one Russian banker and all the rest of it seems to be I think what the real concern is with the CIA and Trump I think they're suspicious that this was going on. Here's the illogic of it, which i think is what probably maybe now or again at some point had to have them back off Trump owned at least three casinos one in Vegas and two in Atlantic City That's where the money laundering takes place! That's where money laundering goes on he can't keep the casino In Atlantic City, one of the most corrupt towns ever He can't keep those things afloat

2:06:21 Yeah, well done with your Russian money laundering scheme. You did something wrong and yeah that's a good point And I think somebody has got to have some logic in this thing Look if this guy is a money launderer he had two casinos in Atlantic City and he couldn't keep them in business which is the money laundry...I mean that's just asking it be a money laundering operation because its like all cash business and they went belly up And then furthermore, if he's that connected with any mob Russian or otherwise. How does the Yakuza and we know that from that documentary that you'd like to promote? And I like it a lot hyper normalization. Yes. But the Yakuza took Trump for $10 million dollars. I say Yakuza but whatever tomato tomato.

2:07:09 So, uh... Yeah. So do you think that this is off script and that this is going to be a new avenue that will be pursued? I think the discussion what he brought up right here, I think it's completely off script. I think he screwed up because I have not heard this and then he throws in the fact that one of the kids goes money flowing from the Russians! I agree. I think this is completely, at least to me because i'm always looking for why? Why is the CIA hate this guy so much? Well here's a question for you... Why don't they just do what they did last time? What shoot him?! Yeah!

2:07:53 No, they can't do that. It's because Trump set him up to be almost set himself up to be shot every week by good by comply I think he was doing the right thing when he is complaining about the intelligence community being all against him Yeah And then and everybody in the country this studies have been done and most of them Most Americans believe that the CIA had something to do with the Kennedy assassination I always thought, I always liked that George Bush was then in the CIA and he is the only person that i know of who cannot remember where he was on the day- George H.W Yeah, H. W And he cannot remember where he was on the day Kennedy was assassinated? Yeah! He was in Dallas! Nothing to see here! Nothing to see! Don't look over here! Nothing to see here! That's a good one to look up

2:08:44 So, meanwhile... yeah you can find it. And meanwhile so I don't think they could do that because it would be too obvious and the country was already pinning their hopes on Trump being a savior for the working class cause the Democrats sure aren't and so there wasn't couldn't be done. I've gained too much weight and you know, have a heart attack or something which is kind of in line for but they decided not to do it. For whatever reason maybe they... I don't know. It explains at least one thing to me what was the deal with these guys? Well how about this for size They too did not expect him to win And then the transition came in like with a force

2:09:33 How about that? Maybe they were all just as convinced. And Hillary probably went, yeah I got it covered! I believe that's probably true. I don't believe that the CIA or the intelligence community expected Trump to win. They're all located in DC area. They're all subject to the same mind control of the D.C media and there was no way that Trump was gonna win so where they wouldn't have planned for it but Once he got in, they really turned on him fast. And I think this is the reason they knew about this money laundering or the fact that he was connected to Russian mob. How can you be a real estate developer in New York City and not have mob connections? It doesn't mean it's a negative thing... No! That's how stuff works. ...but I think they get very suspicious about this Russian mob stuff

2:10:28 And that, oh okay there's another reason not to... well I don't know. JFK had his mob connections now? I don't know! You have another clip though, I see that. Yeah he does have a third reason and then it continues with the new fourth reason and it's just kind of interesting because you would have just Morel on script with his right-right-right which I think by the way is they tell that he's on script yeah investigated I hope the third thing that needs to be investigated is is there anybody in the Trump administration particularly with access to classified information who has an inappropriate relationship with Russian intelligence? Wow, that was not only a script he rattled that off and it's in a second. Yep perfect

2:11:13 because I was a big one then it just pooped out. The third thing that needs to be investigated is, is there anybody in the Trump administration particularly with access to classified information who has an inappropriate relationship with Russian intelligence? Ben, is he reading that off the prompter?! You'd think, but no. Damn! So I thought those were the three things that needed to be looked at before Jim Comey was fired and now that he's fired and now that we've been through all of this Charlie i think there is a fourth question which is did the President of The United States obstruct justice in asking for Jim Comey reportedly asking for his loyalty

2:11:51 Listen to that reportedly reportedly. What is he worried about? Is he worried about getting again? He's now changing if I didn't keep the whole interview, but what starts to happen Yeah, he makes it very clear that what what's being fed to the public is bullcrap justice in asking for Jim Comey's reportedly or madly come in asking for his loyalty and asking him to let the Michael Flynn investigation go and then in firing him. Right? So now there's a fourth issue I think so with regard to

2:12:27 With regard to Jared Kushner and meeting with the Russian ambassador, talking about an alternative channel. And I think this is a great microcosm of the bigger issue So the first thing I'd say Charlie is that as an intelligence analyst would look at this as an issue When I do that The first thing I say is wow there's a big caveat here And the big caveat here is that, is that the facts that are in the public domain may not turn out to be accurate. The real facts maybe somewhat different than the facts in the public domain why do I say that? How do we know this Jared Kushner thing how do we know this story right well what we reportedly have is we've had Russians talking to each other about the meeting

2:13:21 And we have the US collecting that intelligence of the Russians talking to each other about the meeting. Then, we have former officials and current officials leaking that to reporters And we have the reporters then writing stories based on those leaks, not having seen the intelligence documents but having talked to people who leaked them. And who read from them? And read from them. That's not a great sourcing chain right? Am I an analyst looking at that? I'm not gonna put a high level of credibility in those facts just because that sourcing change. So you're saying about Jared Kushner meeting with the Russian ambassador... Be careful here, be careful of the facts That's that-that's the first point Tell me about this sexuality it's in your DNA He sounds kind of sexy our Mike Morrell there Yeah! That's a good one John

2:14:14 He totally, totally backed off on that. Well we got to take a break but he's a spokesholder so we have to say whatever he's doing is you know he's the guy that's going to tell us what's going on So just on that leaker bit since it fits into it before we take a break A couple shows ago, maybe was it last Thursday? Or the Sunday. We had Roger Stone calling out these so-called leaker within the White House. Trump White House aide Dina Habib Powell best friends with Houma Abedin and Webb Hubble's daughter Chelsea Clinton you're the leaker Isn't there a show called You're The Mole? Doesn't sound like he is on that show. You're The Mole!

2:14:59 There is a woman who's been in the alternative conspiratorial circles for quite awhile now, Catherine Austin Fitz. You ever heard of her? I'm sure someone must have seen your YouTube video at some point. She was a big Wall Street insider at Dylan Reed & Co., She was also the assistant secretary of housing, commissioner to United States Department of Housing and Urban Development for the Bush administration. President of Hamilton Securities... So she'd been around and she went kind of rogue and she started coming out saying it's all bullcrap you know how the money works and she's typically not very interesting to listen to

2:15:40 I think yeah, I think I've seen this. You must have you must have I have and she runs an outfit now called Solari it's kind of like God We'd like God got like god productions or whatever Yeah very sketchy but she does have some background what I liked here This was on a podcast the dark journalist podcast sorry Someone's gotta watch this stuff And she explains Dina Habib Powell. I thought that was a little bit we wanted to listen to about this person, who she is where she came from who's friends with and what changed that brought her close? I don't know if you know the history of Dina Powell but she's a piece of work so her family is Egyptian Do you know who she sounds like right here

2:16:29 Sounds as she sound what played again, and I can tell you because she does sound like somebody. I know who the somebody is I don't know if you know that history of Dina Powell She's a piece of work oh man It's not Susan Rice no it's someone someone You know someone you personally know okay? Tell me Mimi this is your wife No Yes She says this listen. I didn't know if you know that history of Dina Powell. She's a piece of work She's a piece of work is one of your wife's key phrases She sounds like Mimi. No, she doesn't sound like Mimi. Okay. And she sounds like somebody I know but it's not Mimi because Mimi doesn't talk that fast for one thing. Before you play the rest of your clip... Let's call Mimi! Since you brought this up who does this woman sounds like? The clip sounds like who is this? What are you gonna do with that diploma that you receive tomorrow

2:17:30 Elizabeth Warren. I knew you'd say that! Don't tell me it's Chelsea? Sally Yates. Ha, good one I have heard every time i hear Sally Yates, I think that's Elizabeth Warren. What are you going to do with that diploma that she received tomorrow? Tomorrow... You know it's all in the cadence and and you're the one that brought this up about the milieu and I'm gonna ask you this before we get back to Katherine Fitz in a moment when Comey testifies uh Comay I'm sorry I heard the new pronunciation of my name Like what now suddenly he's French. So when James Comey testifies on Thursday, do you think he will use the Lordy Lordy thing again? Because I have not found out what milieu that is used in other than true African American blacks who was it will say it properly with... I don't know either He said it and then you're right. I think there was a milieu

2:18:31 But I don't know what milieu that is, but just to remind people about the cadence thing. When you're in different milieus you can be almost identified by your cadence and the best milieu for that is the gay milieu. Gay milieu or the surfer milieu? Yes, surfers. Man, Surfer Million, Stoner Million. There's a number of them and they all...you eventually develop the cadence in that group it's like sparrows apparently sparrows have been studied. It's true! Sparrows have been studied and every little sparrow group you come across has their own cadence and their own milieu and they can identify each other as being in that clique, sparrow clique and if you take up like a Berkeley sparrow

2:19:14 And you take him to some place like in Mendocino and you drop him off, they'll kill him. Wow! Don't do that. So this is a big deal and I...that's why I thought Sally Yates and Elizabeth Warren were so interesting because they're from some milieu that is some part of Georgia or but it was big enough and has women and there are other people that sound like them. They have the same kind of Well, I know that Jay is listening and she'll let you know if she thought it was a mom or not. Apparently she was working and I'm just describing, what i'm telling you is from a description she gave at a conference of her history. So this is based on Dina Powell's world so she is in the White House at 9-11 and speaks Arabic so she said she's one of 25 people

2:20:13 who, with an Arabic background and speak Arabic—who have classification when 9-11 hits. So she goes to work for Condoleezza Rice helping to engineer the Seven Arabic Countries in Five Years plan that kills over a million Arabs. So then she goes to New York to work at Goldman Sachs. She and her husband get plum jobs in New York, and are able to buy a $3.3 million condo. Talk about being grateful for engineering the genocide of a million Arabs! So the boys were very grateful she goes to Goldman Sachs, and her job is socially responsible initiatives. And she puts together

2:20:59 or leads an initiative of, it's called 10,000 Women. And during the bailouts when you have people getting thrown out of their home in the country collapsing, you go into Goldman Sachs' website and on their homepage here is a big picture of a big African woman with African dress smiling and it says 10,000 Women Initiatives. Unbelievable! She engineers socially responsible initiatives for women that help you basically foreclose on America and throw millions of women and children out of their homes, but Goldman's looking good. And then she goes to run the foundation to do philanthropic initiatives for Goldman Sachs! So this is a woman who puts lipstick on genocide

2:21:47 And if you're going to rev up the seven countries in five years—so, she worked for Condoleezza Rice. So the Friday before the Syrian bombing, Condoleezza Rice comes to meet with a president and suddenly after the meeting banning off the National Security Council Dina Powell in the Security Council. Amazing! And when I saw that happen, I said we're in trouble. We are in trouble because we're ready to put some more lipstick on genocide So what I, my takeaway from that is that it sounds like she could be the mole or the leaker and she slipped in and somehow there was some coup. That something took place. And this probably had something to do with Kushner too i'm guessing but must well I saw a picture of her you know they talk about how she's buddies with Abedin but the real kicker she's buddies with Valerie Jarrett. Ah well then you know enough

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2:30:33 About the Russia investigation just this is this is a media construct deconstruction clip The interview was on CNN The person her name is Allison Camarota. I'm never really quite sure about her She's not on all the time But when she's on she comes across as like she she really knows what she's talking about, but she's very you know patronizing in a way it's just I can't quite figure her out and The subject of the interview is John Sununu, and he was... let's see. He was not only a governor or something he uh... Was he not chief-of-staff for Bush?

2:31:14 He was in the Bush or Reagan, one of the two White House. I think it was Reagan. It was Reagan? You're right. I think it was Reagan and so he had a lot to do with... Yeah must have been Reagan because he obviously has a lot experience with the Russians being from that administration and what he does here is he just dresses this woman down right down to the very end And it's—you might as well just put Vladimir Putin on his lower third, because he is saying the same things. Is there anything about the Russian investigation connected to the Trump campaign that troubles you? Yeah, but the reporting that is taking place and the exaggeration of veniality and this suggestion… A great word, veniality!

2:31:59 What does it mean? Does it mean culpable like being uh... Mean. Me-ha, mean no doesn't mean that! It means mean. Veniality I don't think so Uh we're going to consult the book of knowledge on that one veniality easily excused or forgiven pardonable a veneal offense So that doesn't mean mean glad I looked it up Well then say- I thought it meant mean No All right, well it's venial. It comes from stems of venial. Okay go. Is there anything about the Russian investigation connected to the Trump campaign that troubles you?

2:32:40 Yeah, the reporting that's taking place and the exaggeration of veniality and the suggestion. Look it It's now seven months since the election And to this day no one has cited a single piece of evidence in your last session You guys were patting yourselves on the back because you said clapper had passed the responsibility off to the FBI. But you forget that in the last weeks of the administration, Obama allowed all his intelligence agencies to share their information and there is no question in my mind that when that happened, since Clapper's group had originated this, that anything the FBI had would have gone back to Clapper. So it's nice for Clapper to try and wash his hands of it by throwing in the FBI's lap but he was at access and those days to whatever the FBI had there is nothing there! So Jared Kushner meeting with a major Russian banker of a massive bank that has connections to Vladimir Putin

2:33:42 Nothing to see there. Well, tell me what you think is to see there and I'll comment on it What do you think would be the motivation? No, I asked you first. He was under Bush one he was not Reagan bush one Okay comment on it What do you think would be the motivation? I don't think there's anything there so you are they doing your why? Because during the 10 weeks everybody is trying to meet some somebody who's going to be in the administration. Everybody who is involved in business, everybody who is involved in politics I can't tell you how many people tried to meet with me between the time I was native chief of staff... And did you meet with a Russian banker when everybody tried to meet with you? No but I had breakfast with the vice president at the Russian embassy and a lot of folks there started talking to me. Mm-hmm and would you have carved out time to meet with a Russian banker with ties to Vladimir Putin if he asked

2:34:40 I'm not even sure what would have happened if that had happened. First of all, Putin wasn't there but look you're asking hypotheticals on hypotheticals. Well i'm trying to actually take your temperature. You have nothing... I mean I'm trying to gauge your comfort level with all this My comfort level? The only discomfort I have is with folks in the media trying to create a veniality without having the courage to specifically tell me what the veniality that I should be concerned about it. Well, we don't have...I have not identified a veniality Have you? Well, you should be concerned if there was collusion and that's what... I don't see any evidence of collusion Do you know? No!

2:35:29 That's what- Okay, so that should end your reporting right there. You should put an exclamation point after you know! Understood but we're at the beginning of the investigation so... You're seven months into the investigation Not exactly. Robin Mueller has just taken over Robert Mueller has just taken over. That's a new investigation! Well, no I mean look that's not exactly fair Governor because as you know Congress people have been calling for a special counsel to do this to handle this because so it gets away from all the partisan bickering So it's just starting in that regard Can I ask a question? If Mueller comes out and says that my version is correct and yours isn't how much crow are you going to eat?

2:36:12 We don't have a version of events. Of course you do, the whole half hour I listened to is a version. Governor, we are asking questions of the sources of the people who know attempting to see where the investigation is. The investigation isn't complete everyone's free now Without identifying without identifying a veniality that should be investigated Governor? We appreciate your perspective that there's nothing to see here and that the investigation I don't know. Silly? Politically motivated by folks trying to rationalize a horribly run Democratic presidential campaign. Boom shakalaka! Come on now! Now, I should mention something...I didn't clip it because there's enough of Morrell. I'm not going to clip the whole thing but Morell happened to say... Veniality? No. Nobody says that. Damnit

2:37:05 He said that when you're running a campaign, these Russians are all over the place. They're both parties consistently and he says then why should it be any different during the transition? He was defending places this is nonsense and to back that kind of thing up which I think I started the show off by saying that a lot of this is not affecting the public thinking. No, I have it. I think and not atypical This is probably very typical of American public. They're sick of the media did sick of the Trump bashing which I believed would happen anyway. They are not really paying much attention, as they never have to the news and all the rest. This is C-SPAN calling an independent line. They're asking everyone for their opinion of how Trump is—and how the Congress is doing. Good morning. Shawna in California, an independent. Shauna, what—good morning to you. Hi! What grade do you give this president in Congress?

2:38:06 I give him an 8+. I think he's great. President Trump and Congress, I'd give maybe a 4%. Why is that? Well, I think President Trump is doing a great job and I can't believe what the press and you know the Dems in Hollywood and everything he's being attacked by all sides. And it hurts me what they're doing to him his family and um...and i think he's doing great and I think he is a true patriot

2:38:43 I'm proud of him and it breaks my heart what he and his family are going through. And i know he's trying, he's a patriot, he wants to bring back jobs, he wants to release the American spirit you know just chugging away doing great things for this country. The press just beats him up and just implies Russia, Russia, Russia. And it's just bizarre to me how so many people that are watching these news channels... I mean, I'm being attacked just because I say—I ask a construction worker thinking that hey maybe we'll start building again and he's a big contractor

2:39:32 And he just said something about the immigrants and how, you know, he can't hire illegal immigrants anymore. And I'm like, God it's it seems like the Dems want to vote and be the votes of illegal immigrants. And they're slowly getting, you know, getting that in then the right didn't want they wanted cheap labor. There's your American man on the street, woman on the street. I don't know how independent she was necessarily... I don't know well most independents have switched over to Republicans not Democrats. I'm gonna take this as true for a moment if that is the case then we will see ratings decline significantly on one of my favorite shows

2:40:28 So let's track it. I'll play the clip, you look up the ratings—the most recent ratings if you don't mind... There is not a good source anymore but okay. TV by The Numbers. I know what show is already your favorite show. tvbythenumbers.com Screw it John! Let The War Room do it. They'll do it. War room, ratings for The View! Something's wrong with him. I don't know what it is why it's all linked to lack of sleep though, I don't care what it's like so he's It could be the sleep and also that he didn't realize this job was gonna be what it was

2:41:27 Popularity but he was not I mean whoopie doesn't sleep a lot. I don't sleep a lot and I don't you know send confetti messages It's also possible that Melania is living in New York most of the time and he's in Mar-a-Lago, and you know sometimes sex puts you to sleep He ain't getting any about for that. He's nothing oh He gains in his midsection and you know how he talks about eating two scoops of ice cream. If he's not gonna move, he needs to cut back to one scoop. It is a sign of stress! He does, you don't want to be pear-shaped. A sign of stress is gaining weight in your midsection there have been studies on it. No bueno Sonny. No bueno. He has got something going on. No Bueno. Can someone help me? Excuse me, excuse me cultural appropriation. Excuse me cultural appropriation You can just go selling no bueno, no bueno uh uh uh uh

2:42:21 From what I can tell, the views ratings have been declining drastically since 2014. Hmm...I have an article from The War Room April 10 2017 headline, The View traded celebrity gossip for political drama and got a ratings boost! Boost? That's because I believe it's the same thing with Colbert. I think they've gotten so low in their ratings, Colbert was really doing poorly and then got a boost because just that one side of argument all flocked to that show. And I think the same thing may have happened. ABC's, here we go... No that's 2015 i'm sorry it's old war room no good keep going? I believe that this is the Colbert effect and I believe its fleeting yeah you know you wrote an excellent newsletter really really liked it and wouldn't mind rehashing just a tad

2:43:18 And you and and Mimi your wife know a lot about the comedy scene You really know a lot about it and and again through the algos I've been watching a lot of comedy Sarah Silverstein's latest is pretty damn funny. I'll say silverman yeah, yeah silverman steinheimer Very funny not all the Trump bashing I expected from her but you run in just the What you wrote in the newsletter, my takeaway was there are very specific moments when comedy changes and they're now in this...the comics are in this box. They've put themselves in this box where we have Kathy Griffin because the people who were most angry at Kathy Griffin were other comedians

2:44:02 You know the left at large and just to add one more to it Then I want you to explain a little bit about what may be going on. I have the clip of Bill Maher that everyone is so pissed off about Here it is in Nebraska, Mark We'd love to have you work for the fields with us I'm a house nigga And actually the way he said it, I'm a house nigga. Yeah, he was acting and it wasn't all that super offensive but the problem is and this is exactly what Professor Ted says you get into this over socialization mainly through the use of social networks

2:44:45 It's a psychology term which is really enhanced by technology, weaponized technology. And people are going...their heads are going to explode not literally but they're gonna run into trouble because where now we don't know where the lines are you being boxed in so what do you do as a comedian? When your boxed in well then what are they doing I mean oh what are they doing now there freaked explain me and there's well there's no you can't The only outlet seems to be Trump bashing. And the comics who don't do Trump bashing, and there's a few of them that try to stay in the middle of the road I think are going to end up coming out okay and I would put Jimmy Fallon in that group as opposed to Kimmel and especially Colbert. Colbert has boxed himself in with this Trump hate

2:45:40 What has to emerge is what I put in the newsletters. I remember, if they were...I don't remember it that much but i did go see him when this uh when I was in high school. I saw Mort Sahl. Mort Sahl came out of the blue along with some new comics, including Woody Allen and some others. And they ended up with a new style of comedy which was a political commentary and then shortly after that another wave of new comics showed up I think largely led by Jonathan Winters but then there was Bob Newhart and Bill Cosby and a bunch of other guys who came up with this kind of neutral comedy that really was mostly observational about the situation... Seinfeld type stuff

2:46:21 Well, Seinfeld's a little different still. He said like in another wave that came much later and he's pretty neutral but the Bob Newhart was the key to this whole understanding of the whole phenomenon I was Bob Newhart this guy is the first number one selling comedy album The guy was just completely it was outrageous Just a little bit before my time you know I never got that big. You should probably go listen to the button down, caught button down collar or the button down mind. It's a button down mind of Bob Newhart which was this outrageous hit record and back when we had comedy albums remember those? They still come out there you know nobody buys them but they come out just download them. They're streaming it! But the yeah...or the comedy album today is equivalency of a comedy album is what you mentioned earlier in the show which is Netflix right

2:47:10 They have every comedian has a Netflix special that goes an hour or two. It's about an hour, it's really an hour. Yeah it's about an hour. It's a comedy album and a lot of them are crap most of them which by the way is the next wave that is the Netflix comedy album Don't know what's gonna come next I mean there's got to be something new because these guys you like you said are all boxed they've all box themselves in and With usually hate comedy, which is not really doesn't work that well. What's odd though? Is it look Griffin Griffin's gigs were canceled now You got you can tell me she was performing in Republican audience oriented places no No so they're canceling their cancer because oh I mean

2:47:58 For comics not to support another comic no matter what they've done, except for some physical harm is I think unprecedented. Franken? I think you're right. Franken supported her right off the bat and he-I have to assume that his office as a US senator got inundated and he bailed fast right in fact he bailed so fast it was I thought it was I thought it was embarrassing and It's just a there's something else going on here. We should mention Media Matters has always been this group that has been hot has been Slamming the right-wingers they're the ones who go went after O'Reilly and got his advertisers to quit advertising And all the rest, but there is now

2:48:45 a right-wing version of Media Matters, and I can't remember their name off the top of my head but someone in the chat room might know what it is. It's being talked about by the right wing talkers and they are going after lefties with these campaigns again to stop advertising this is actually a better segment to do before one of our advertising segments yeah but they're going after the left and they're going after Rachel Maddow and all these other people And they're also going after advertisers who pull the ads from their website. from like Sean Hannity. Hannity had a bunch of ads pulled and they're going after the advertisers for pulling the ads and asking for boycotts, and couple advertisers have come back to Hannity after that because there's no real reason for them to quit but the only guy that is not saying anything about this or is kind of against it because he doesn't like boycott quote-unquote is this guy Mark Levin, The Great One

2:49:40 Mark Levin says, I think this is a bad idea. And then it turns out that one of the advertisers just coincidentally maybe one of the advertisers that bailed on Hannity which is Casper Mattress's huge advertiser on Mark Levin. So coincidence? I think not so. So mark Levin has lost credibility right there because this is all the corruption of advertising Yeah, we should have done this before the donation segment. You're right. I can still follow up with some more. And also consider this after this program if you got any value from it consider what you just heard there is one comedian who will not trash Trump and that's Kevin Hart Well Kevin Hart is smart Obviously Dennis Miller is not trashing Trump he's a big Trump supporter yeah and there's probably a few others who and they many of them complain about the fact that

2:50:34 You know, they're getting crap because they're Trump supporters in their community. I can see the community is very left and it tends to be... It's gotten to Trump hate. I think that's where Kathy Griffin got her nerve from to do that photo cause she just saw this- And how dumb is she? Well if you listen to our apology, she doesn't seem that bright. Yeah Scott Adams wrote something interesting Dilbert guy. He said Trump should come out and say I accept your apology he said that would be so awesome if he did that, but he won't I wonder when Adams did that because that exact same approach was done on the five that Fox does by Gutman. Exactly the same, I wonder who stole which from who? I don't know what's the timeline. I suspect Adams would be the originator. I suspect that as well! He has a cartoon which i'll put in the newsletter

2:51:32 About global warming that is I think it's besides being excellent. Yeah, it's very good It is right on the money very good But no I don't know what's gonna happen with the comedian comic scene but something's gonna happen Something something's gonna change because this cannot go on Hate doesn't work that well. Ah you know what needs to happen now aliens aliens Trump should say something about aliens Well, Trump did. There was a thing I predicted that then if I'm listening to some other reports and it apparently did happen which is the accusation that Trump has syphilis. Yeah, that show is a good one in the newsletter sometime ago and then I hear now that somebody's accusing him of it one of these looks like one of the view women or something like that would be the ones to do it yeah oh man syphilis hey it could happen

2:52:33 Anyway, things are changing in this. But I'm noticing the softening of the CIA broadcasting system concerning Trump. I'm going to monitor that a little closer and they're getting rid of Scott Pelley. I didn't realize it would have such an impact on that kind of reporting but it did. And then Morel now is to be listened to a little more closely. Oh for sure. Quick little Maxine? Yes, Maxine. During the one week span in March... This was an on-the-street interview and what would the reason why I watched it at all? Well Maxine is kind of something you want to watch anyway but it was the Young Turks are they now rocking against Maxine or they this very I didn't I thought they were all in all left all the time The problem with Maxine is that she has a corruption scandal in her background Okay yeah

2:53:30 Well, she's got more going on. During a one week span in March I looked at your tweets and around 60% had to do with this Russia issue Do you think that's a proportionate focus for Democrats? Good question! I like that Is that proportionate is that should you be doing other things for the people Should it be overwhelmingly on this Russia matter well no and this is it oh we can watch and chew gum at the same time. And for people who say, you know don't do this don't do this you just should do that let me just say that I consider that protection of our democracy an understanding that Russia is not our friend

2:54:06 Do you hear how deluded she is? Delusional. that they determine who the president of the United States is. That's how far she said, that's how far this woman is going. I mean, she's not as pretty and trying to determine as they have done who should be president of the United States and that's very important at the same time we fight very hard for health care

2:54:44 We're trying to preserve the ACA while they're trying to undo it with Trump care That's gonna throw is that also the Russians fault some million people out of health and I like that. I like how she likes Just 34 million people used to be 20 then it was 24 now It's 30 for we're trying to reserve the ACA why they're trying to undo it with Trump care That's gonna throw thirty four million people out of healthcare and so we know how to do both and we're doing that when you say Russia's not our friend she we know how to throw people out of health care. We don't need Trump for that, you know how to do both? And we're doing that when you say Russia is not our friend was Obama mistaken to forge military cooperation with Russia in Syria and to start treaty You and I have a different agenda young man i'm out i'm out to impeach this president get that straight

2:55:32 I'm out to impeach the president. I'm not gonna be diverted by people who are Obama haters. Do you think... Not a racist song! There's also this great fake Twitter account Which is Maxine Waters, except it's not waters. It's two Votters. Yeah, it's two capital Vs And just like hashtag in peach with an N for November Lots of people bought into it

2:56:26 Yeah, I know. It was very embarrassing. Funny careful people when you retweet it was funny everyone gets caught with some scam but that one is a little too much but the in in the peach had cracked me up yeah i have a couple of things i want to get out of here before we end i'm giving you the 10 minute warning Well, then you give me 10 minutes. It's a long five minute warning that de this is I gotta get I want to slip out of the way because this isn't just one of those things where they always say though the Russians and their disinformation and RTS not to be trusted don't watch them but our teeth To me still does stories and you can check these stories out And they're accurate that the mainstream media just won't touch you mean m5m M 5m

2:57:11 This is DEA cock up on RT. The US Drug Enforcement Administration reportedly lied to Congress about fatal shootings in Honduras in 2012 that includes the killing of four civilians in the Central American country a recent report by the Justice Department says that the DEA falsely characterized the deaths as a shootout with drug traffickers despite video evidence of them firing an unarmed civilians. It also says the agency failed to adequately plan its operations and withheld information from the U.S. ambassador in Honduras, with more details here's Artis Kelimopi There seems to be a bit of a pattern when it comes to US forces and civilian deaths In Honduras in mid-May four civilians are killed in a drug raid Two of the civilians killed are women another was only 14 years old but us forces weren't involved

2:58:03 Right? They did not use force. No U.S. personnel fired any weapons We were involved purely supporting and advising Wrong! The report from the office of the Inspector General shows that drug enforcement officers from the United States had significant control over the operations Furthermore, their report shows that they lied to Congress about significant details DEA officials asserted to Justice Department leadership the U.S. Ambassador to Honduras, and Congress that some of the people in the passenger boat were drug traffickers attempting to retrieve the seized cocaine and that the people on the passenger boat had fired on the officers first." That was Newland by the way earlier in that clip making a bogus excuse. I thought I recognized her now

2:58:58 Yeah, kind of an item there that no one's going to cover in the mainstream. M5M I've got a non-M although this is a smaller market M5M report Kamala Harris was also on Recode you should watch that YouTube video too very interesting woman she was the Attorney General now she's a Senator and she was always on the fast track Obama loved her She took Boxer's place Obama loved her, in fact he got crap for saying she looks smartest good-looking woman and everyone freaked out over that.

2:59:37 Yeah, can't do that. Well she has some weirdness going on with her staff Anyone who's read the book The Da Vinci Code or seen the movie probably knows something about the Knights Templar They're basically an ancient law enforcement organization That these three people who were arrested claim to be a part of A lot of people think this group is fake However there are real consequences for impersonating An officer of the law and that's just what the LA County Sheriff Department Arrested these folks for These three people have all identified themselves as being members of the Masonic Fraternal Police Department. And according to the LA Times, one of the suspects Brandon Keel was an aide to California State Attorney General Kamala Harris when officers searched the homes of these three in Santa Clarita they say they found weapons badges vehicles uniforms and other law enforcement type equipment

3:00:24 He slipped it in there. They had cop cars, John. Yeah! Cop cars just the kind of items that would give the impression that these people were real police officers along with Tanette Hayes and David Henry the chief of the so-called Masonic Fraternal Police Department were all arrested for impersonating a police officer. This is a serious offense that can come with prison time. Law enforcement says they became aware of this illegitimate police organization when the group contacted the Santa Clarita Sheriff's Station and met with the station's captain. It is unclear why the group wanted to do that The Masonic Police Organization claims to be a part of a modern day branch of the fabled Knights Templar, a group that dates back basically 1,000 years. As the chief of Santa Clarita's home...the windows out there we checked it out they're all shut no one came to the door and when we knocked neighbors tell us the Masonic couple that lives there were very friendly

3:01:16 and no one thought they were suspicious. He had this specific ring, and I just asked about it... It's about like an Illuminati... It's a Masonic, and then it goes back from ancient times? All three of the suspects were released the same day from jail that they were arrested Now officers believe there are more people apart of this Masonic Fraternal Order Of Police And their urging anyone with information to come forward. I love it! How is this still legal?! You're not allowed to impersonate a cop. They're not impersonating a cop, they are security guards I think that they had cop-like uniforms So what? Security guards do too But no if it says LAPD It didn't say LAPD there's no evidence of that I know but look all i know is Illuminati! I would watch this case carefully and see what happens but I'll bet you they get off because I don't see them doing anything wrong

3:02:14 They may not be doing anything wrong and they're not imprisoned. I mean, they have been let go But it's just interesting to know that there's a lot of people out there who are part of the Masonic Police Force Yeah who knows? That-I didn't know this was going on but for some reason i wasn't surprised Oh yeah moon landing fake next all the things I was laughed at for years A decade Pretty soon everything will be true And then we'll have no show left to do No, but there's still stuff to report. For example I got two clips left this is the prison time for Penn State Chancellor the guy who ran Penn State? I just thought that I didn't expect this to ever happen. Wait these are the... The pedophiles!

3:02:57 President of Penn State University will serve time behind bars for his role in covering up child sexual abuse by an ex-assistant football coach. Graham Spanier will spend two months in jail and a to 10 months under house arrest. Two other former university officials also received jail time Jerry Sandusky is serving a prison sentence of 30 to 60 years for sexually abusing ten boys That guy gets two months? As long as he got some jail time I think that's what you need to do with some of these cases

3:03:34 But meanwhile, if you're black and you're smoking crack. Oh yeah, you get locked up for 15 years. America number one baby! That's a different problem. Yeah now the last one I have which is that I want to play is the he gained weight clip and what I wanted yes discusses that this is example of Tucker his Tucker show And what he's doing? He's really doing a no agenda kind of deconstruction here with one of his guests. And I'm sketchy about whether or not he should keep going in this direction, because I don't know that it works so well when you have... Well, I haven't heard this clip but I've noticed the change too and

3:04:17 exactly when this happened, I'm noticing him laughing a lot more with other guests who come in studio who are just contributors not guests that he's going to rip apart or attempt to. Yeah right and they do something else they point out a... In this case he brings in an Anderson Cooper clip and they both ridicule it and then discuss a little bit like a deconstruction I think they're looking for a formula for that show. They haven't found one yet and they're using our formula. Damn it! So, I turned in into that channel yesterday to see are they covering this? And what are they covering because its kind of interesting to see their alternative reality and this is what I saw. The president is not agreeing with the President

3:04:58 He complained that his first trip overseas was going to be too long, that he wasn't looking forward to it and returned to the White House angry. He's gained weight according to these sources. He doesn't trust people around him. He is withdrawing. Not a good picture. It is the one being painted by those sources I actually like the anchor over there who just said that, but that line...I really ought to put it in my refrigerator. He's gained weight according to sources! According to sources? You know what the number one complaint of The New York Times readers are—this is according to their public editors year after year—the overuse of unnamed sources. A lot of reader just sitting at home I'm wondering, okay who has the motivation and the agenda to go on the record with CNN who Trump hasn't appeared on that network since August of 2016. What friend of Trump is running to CNN to talk about how much of a bad mood he's in and how much weight he's gained? And what is the credibility of this source in the first place motive

3:05:53 Agenda credibility and here's the problem Tucker after that story comes out then everybody else in media picks up the story as gospel Yeah, totally doing no agenda. Yeah And that's how they I mean they are describing an accurate mechanism And they mentioned a public editor which has now been fired so we won't even have that issue anymore people complaining yeah Well, I don't care what they do. I'm not worried about it because they can't do this See? No. Can't do it They can't, they can't do- They're bound by advertisers Advertisers, advertising guys The suits! The suits! So if you still want to have a real laugh Because we after all are a comedy podcast Support us at Dvorak.org slash NA The only way we can continue

3:06:45 Now, are we in the finals yet of this NBA thing? Should I watch now? We're in the finals. There's a last few games so this is the finals This is the last two teams standing The first game was over and that's the Warriors won They have to win four games The Warriors are playing again today Right after the podcast actually And then they go to Cleveland and play 2 more games It could go 7 games or it could end at 4 We don't know but So far the Warriors are looking good Well, I'm excited. The Commonwealth Condo Cluedio, FEMA Region 6. In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley which is right near the game... ...I am John C. DeVoreye We'll see you on Thursday until then Adios Mofos! Suckin' and Suttin', Suckin' and Suttin'.

3:08:40 You might die. She's not a wizard! She's not the wizard! Weaponized tech, I mean Russians help you? I inherit nothing from the Democratic Party It was bankrupt it was on the verge of insolvency its data was mediocre to poor non-existent i had to inject money into it so Trump becomes the nominee this tried and true

3:09:20 The untrue, false story. Weaponized information and operation to weaponize that information So Russians, let's say WikiLeaks same thing, dump it now, dump it now. Weaponize tech or have any Russians help you? She's not a lizard! I inherit nothing from the Democratic Party Shes not a lizard! Do everything we can to weaponize it. Control data deficit to like Obama 3.0

3:10:00 I'm not a tech expert. If you look at Facebook, majority of the news items posted were fake. Tech revolution really weaponized... Be very specific if people didn't understand what I was saying. If I didn't break any rules, I was very responsible and not at all careless. Be very specific if people didn't understand what I was saying. Dump it now! Not at all careless. She's not a lizard!! If I didn't break any rules, I was very responsible

3:10:39 believe the high deluded yes well if you went all the way back doing something that others had been eluded certainly she should have known not to send classified information as I said that's a definition of negligent. I think she was extremely careless Well, if you went all the way back doing something that others had done before was no longer acceptable in the new environment in which we found ourselves.

3:11:20 Is she referring to her being the originator of the boney baloney story or possibly true story about Barack Obama not being certainly, certainly she should have known. She said text expert. I had a sex expert. Yes. I'm not a tax expert by any... I think you're... Responsible and not at all careless, careless, careless. Oh you end up with a situation that is then exploited but then don't.

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