Pigs in Space

00:02 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. Yeah, coming to you from the northwest portion of Gitmo Nation on the Queen's birthday. This is no agenda. That's right. Coming to you from the crackpot command center backup location in San Francisco, California. It's Adam Curry and hopefully someone else on the other end. Hey, I'm here in sunny, as a matter of fact, peculiarly sunny Amsterdam, Gitmo Nation, Netherlands. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Okay, we've been at it for about an hour now. Oops, there goes my microphone. We've had nothing but technical problems this morning. Yeah, it's rather weird.

00:50 But the one technical problem I didn't have is that the sun came out today and it actually was an outstanding day here on Queens Day, which is something of an event. So let's get into it man. How has Queens Day been? This is your first experience? It's the national swap meet in the Netherlands? Yeah. Well, let me just describe it or summarize for people who might want to check it out. Infinite number of drunks. You don't say! And the funny thing is that they come in, all the parties are Wednesday night, and apparently the English are the worst offenders. Oh yeah, they come over just to tear the town up, don't they?

01:33 So they come over, but then I'm told they come over for the Wednesday night parties, they party all night and then they keep going to the next day and then they get kind of tired I guess because things start to crank up again around 3 o'clock in the afternoon and then by 6 or 7 or 8 they leave. They don't come, they party for 24 hours and leave. but you know they do that every single weekend anyway this is just normal fare for the brits they hop on the easy jets they uh... they bust on over they don't even get a hotel room off and they just like those just sleep it off on the street corner I'm telling you, I don't understand how, what a miserable flight it must be on an easy jet from Amsterdam to London after a weekend. I tell you, yeah, I don't know if you've, if you actually took advantage of the taxi Eric service, probably not. Not yet, I didn't have to. Okay, but he will not take anyone

02:25 to an easy jet flight who's British on Monday morning or Sunday evening. He won't do it. Of course not, he doesn't want to have to clean up his cab. Exactly. Exactly, it's nasty. How was the party last night, man? The one I hooked you up with? I thought the party was good. We got there a little late, so whatever drinks that were served into our little mini area were stolen. So that was... What time did you get there? Because I sent you a message saying you should get there by 9. Yeah, I didn't get the message. We were doing something else. In fact, we were at dinner. And so I didn't get there until about 11. Oh, you shite. Yeah.

03:04 But the party, the real entertainment at the party didn't really start till midnight. Right. So, but it was a little packed, yeah. Yeah. But it was good? Yeah, it was good. I got to meet your friend. Yeah. She's taller than you. Yeah, isn't she awesome? Yeah, she's quite nice. And of course, she's like 6'3", and she wears a top hat and heels. So it's like... I hope you took a picture. I had this down on a box. Hi, you're Adam's friend? Hold on, what's the weather like up there? It's raining. So anyway, when I left to come to this thing, to all this stuff, the weather prediction was it was going to just be raining all week.

03:48 And it just like yesterday about 10 in the morning just stopped and it actually cleared up and there's a blue sky. Oh that's nice. Which is actually kind of interesting. But the thing that's the most interesting about this, and I've got a lot of footage which I'll post on the blog, is these party boats. Oh on the canals, yeah this is the big thing right now during the day. Yeah, and it's like everybody gets these barges and they load them up, they overcapacitize them as it were. I mean, and I can say that knowing it because I got to witness a boat sinking. It does happen from time to time. Too many people on the barge. Well, this was actually a smaller boat and we're coming and I took a big boat tour just because I was getting tired of walking around and I just wanted to relax. And we're going through underneath where the Movenpick is, which is the hotel I'm staying at actually.

04:37 Which hotel? The Moven Pick. Do you know the street name? It's right on the water, down from the... Yeah, that helps. Okay. It's right on the water. Do you know where the central terminal is? The central station? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Oh, I know where you are. Anyway, so this boat, I guess the guy wasn't paying attention or something and he rammed the pier. And the boat, instead of just hitting the pier and bouncing back, it kind of ran up the pier because it had those curved hulls. And the back went in the water. Yeah, it went up the hill, the back went in the water. Everybody fell backwards and then it was weighted down more and then the back went in the water and it immediately sunk.

05:19 other is kind of funny look well wasn't likely nobody got hurt but luckily there was a like a the raft right near it and so they just pulled over pick them up and then as we're leaving I got pictures of all this by the way you'll find him quite amusing to turn over the newspapers but I can't get him off the camera but anyway the on a blog it So we're leaving and as we go through the hole, the under the canal thing, one of the police boats, I guess to go check this out, came roaring by at about 70 miles an hour, just rawr, with three cops in it. I figured they're gonna investigate this thing because it was actually something to see. I wish I had my little, I was shooting with the,

06:04 with the DSLR rather than the little movie camera, it would have been, I could, on YouTube it would have gotten a lot of attention. It was actually quite interesting to watch it happen. You can't get the pictures off your flash drive or your flash card because it's still hosed, is that the problem? No, no, just because I don't have the converter to... loaded into the machine. But I didn't bring it. But anyway, it was interesting because when this thing sank, it kind of started taking over and then it went backwards first so the thing was sticking with the hull straight up. It was like vertical and stuck in the mud. Some girl was standing on the top of it. She's just shaking like a leaf. It was just, it's actually quite interesting. But our barge stopped just in case they had to... Pick someone out of the water.

06:50 Yeah, so they didn't move. So I got to see the whole thing. It was very entertaining of sorts. Anyway, there's that. But most of the time it's just these boats full of... 20-somethings with a disco. They usually have a DJ on the boat and a sound system that's cranked way up there and playing nothing more than a loud beat. And then everybody's kind of dancing on the boat as the thing goes through the crowds. And there was a couple traffic jams. There must have been like a hundred boats trying to get through this one underpass, through one of the canal areas. It was very entertaining.

07:30 The place is getting... right now it's probably... I mean they're already getting drunk about four o'clock. There was a nasty accident today. I saw pictures of a car that was... I guess the Queen was on her double-decker bus saying hi to her minions with other members of the Royal Family and then some car careened right through the crowd killing two people, injuring 12. Looked pretty gnarly. and killed four already on the streets but the uh... they say you know they don't report a real sketchy because the you know the thing ran through these people in that program into a monument

08:08 Although there was a bike, the funny thing is you see the movie, there's a guy on a bicycle just getting out of the way before he hits the monument. He could have been crushed. Yeah, but the car looks crushed before it hits the monument. It hit something before it even hit all those people. It's really weird. I'm not sure that's true. I think that bounced off the monument. I think all the shots of it are... I'm not sure that that's true. It seems to me like somebody had a heart attack or something, but one of the early reports say they were out to get the queen or the royal family. But it was a puddle jumper with a three-cylinder engine and they were in a bus. Yeah, it's not really a match, is it now?

08:50 So I don't know what the deal is. That's sad. That's tragic. That wasn't around here though. It was in Appled something or other. Appledorn. Of course it was a completely masonic structure that it crashed into. Oh it was, that's right. You're right. It's a complete obelisk. It's a New World Order phallic symbol. I don't even know what that is. I have no idea what that monument is. Yeah, I don't either. But it's uh, it's definitely Masonic. Yeah, you see those a lot. Yeah, particularly anywhere near the Queen. Maybe this is all just a message. Yeah. Well, John.

09:34 Yes. So I'm watching by the way, just to not to get too much into the show yet. So I'm watching, you know there's this thing France 24, it's like one of the stations out of France. They have this news report on it, I just saw it a few minutes ago. And the news, the main news reader, you know the Katie Couric of the station. Of the station, yeah. France 24 is so hot. It's unbelievable. Oh, yeah, and so then I mean she's just a blonde bombshell, right? So it's the it's the French version of Fox News Yeah, and then they throw it but it's actually better because I mean this girl's better looking than anyone on Fox. Yeah, but she's hairy pits No problem with I'm not She smells of cheese and wine, but otherwise she's smoking

10:25 And so she throws it to the business reporter that's gonna talk about, you know, Chrysler, you know, has decided to go bankrupt. Yeah. and which is true screwed up fiat's plans and so it's not this other woman is stephanie and one and she's just as hot it's crazy i think this is what is his broadcasting what happened to our well how did we lose our way well with the template is here you know i've i've been sitting in hotel rooms for the past week and of course There's really nothing else on except hot babes doing news. I mean, that's just what television has become I I can't say I hate it. Well, I think we should you know, whatever happened to the nude news That still exists the naked news is what you mean. Yeah the naked news. I don't know Still exists I was watching it just the other day. All right. So what do you got on the agenda here? Well, of course we know it. Yeah, of course we have no agenda. Well, I I think obviously we need to talk about the swine flu

11:27 that's my favorite thing about swine flu is now they're saying you know it is that we have to change the name of it because it's offensive to muslims and jews well you know this whole thing obviously i have my own thoughts about this and some theories we should go through but um right off the top you'd almost expect that this is just against the pork industry i mean it's the way this thing is positioned and they are they're killing pigs now i think in egypt They're calling the swine population. No, they're not even sick! Yeah, I know this is ridiculous. I think this is another vague thing. So what's the vibe over in Holland? Because you know the in-laws are with the lady Patricia back in London and so of course they're calling back to Holland and seeing how everything's going and the Dutch government as far as I understand is basically saying, oh you know we're not going to be affected. Nothing to see here. Move right along. We will have no instances of swine flu in the Netherlands. Did you hear any of that?

12:25 Yep, that's exactly what they're thinking. And you know, how misjudged is that? Well, that's just the way they feel. There's a number of things I find peculiar about the mindset of the current, or the current mindset of the population here. One is that, exactly, which is they don't think anything's going to happen to them and it's not a big deal if it does. You know, maybe one or two people will get something. and the other thing is the Obama thing is quite unique. I mean everybody is so jacked up on this guy. It's unbelievable. I know, they're so smoking the dope. It's amazing.

13:07 and it comes from everywhere by the way. I give a talk to a little group of uh... But they will actually get angry with you. I get Dutch people who get angry with me if I say well you know hold on there's a couple things, oh Obama is great and and the minute I... here's literally what I encounter in the Netherlands if I say well you know I do have a few a few comments about our current president and then the first thing is, you're just jaded man, you're jaded. I'm like what? I'm jaded? Jaded? I don't know what that means, but that's what it is. You're jaded. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. I'm an American and I pay attention to what's going on. You slaves.

13:46 So, I got a minor amount of flack but not anything like that. It was mostly because I started off my little talk about discussing the fact that they're trying to get legislation so they can shut down the net if they want to. These are people that developed for the cloud. So that got their attention. But here's what you always hear, oh really? Oh gee, I must have missed that one. Oh yeah, well they missed everything. But I think it's a good, but anyway, so they're very much, and the argument is well Obama's like he's a good guy, you know, and he's trying to make some friends. And he's not belligerent. He's friendly. No, but that is true. You can't argue it. He's a friendly guy. He's a friendly guy. I got back, so I went to New York for like 36 hours and went over on the red eye, came back, you know,

14:36 day and a half later and I was just in time to see the prime time 100-day presidential press conference. Did you have an opportunity to see any of this fantastic show, John? I only saw the snippets and then the critiques and then I had to watch the CNN coverage of the voting. I saw that! but you go to be a bs here d and it's like you know it was just one was all over it was a little bit i was flipping through the channels and i'm like and i saw votes you know an account alike five more minutes of my shit what are they voting on what senate voting on now but that's not senate it's the cnn audience voting on how the president did that way this is crazy that john this was once again

13:46 So, I got a minor amount of flack but not anything like that. It was mostly because I started off my little talk about discussing the fact that they're trying to get legislation so they can shut down the net if they want to. These are people that developed for the cloud. So that got their attention. But here's what you always hear, oh really? Oh gee, I must have missed that one. Oh yeah, well they missed everything. But I think it's a good, but anyway, so they're very much, and the argument is well Obama's like he's a good guy, you know, and he's trying to make some friends. And he's not belligerent. He's friendly. No, but that is true. You can't argue it. He's a friendly guy. He's a friendly guy. I got back, so I went to New York for like 36 hours and went over on the red eye, came back, you know,

14:36 day and a half later and I was just in time to see the prime time 100-day presidential press conference. Did you have an opportunity to see any of this fantastic show, John? I only saw the snippets and then the critiques and then I had to watch the CNN coverage of the voting. I saw that! but you go to be a bs here d and it's like you know it was just one was all over it was a little bit i was flipping through the channels and i'm like and i saw votes you know an account alike five more minutes of my shit what are they voting on what senate voting on now but that's not senate it's the cnn audience voting on how the president did that way this is crazy that john this was once again

15:23 a completely orchestrated show. It was just unbelievable. I can't believe that... Do you know that when in Clinton's first term, also a Democrat, in four years, four years time, he only did two national press conferences outside of the State of the Union, only two national press conferences because the networks would not give him the airtime. And Obama's had three in three months. Yeah, he's gonna have 12 before we're done with one year. And it was 13 questions. It was 13 questions and this was like a kindergarten softball game. It was just unbelievable. I'm sure you saw the question from the New York Times.

16:13 No, it wasn't. I missed it. Mr. President, in your 100 days in... This is the New York Times. In your 100 days in office, what has surprised you? What has enchanted you? If you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be? Exactly! What has enchanted you, Mr. President? I mean, come on! What are these guys at the New York Times thinking? Is this like asking him what kind of tree does he want to be or if you were a tree what would you be kind of question? Is this girl over 12 years old? No, it was a guy. It was a guy? Oh my god. It was what has... Now I gotta paraphrase. The enchanted thing is just what floored me. What has excited you? What has enchanted you? What has surprised you? What is this? Oprah?

17:06 This is not a press conference. It sounds like Oprah. Yeah, no, it's exactly what it was. And it was slick, you know, it was slick. By the way, I'd like to point out one thing. I only have one observation from this show because it was a complete show. I mean, it was set up, it was 13 questions, the president calls on people, he doesn't even know where they're sitting, he just has a list, you know, and he knows exactly what each person is going to ask more or less. It's gotta be. And he just times his answer, you know, it's like, well I got 50 minutes, you know, so I'll just time my answers. He's got a big clock on the wall and he, and he, and so of course the enchanted question is lovely, you know, he took his time on that one. By the way, the answer is, are, are service men and women. Not, he said, I wouldn't use the word enchanting, but,

17:56 uh... okay whatever every ever get so whatever so located in the middle of the mail rated in the american public in the people us so it off of that for a second so that they don't think we should even but just which it was it was a charade we agree right We agree wholeheartedly that it was a charade. Just disappointing, angering, John, I'm sorry, it just angers me. The press conferences, I mean Helen, for God's sakes, Helen, Mr. President, she's sitting in the front row continuously, she never gets to ask a question, she's never called on. Here's the point I wanted to make. When the doors open and the president walks up that hallway up to the podium,

18:41 You know, it's a beautifully lit hallway. May I just point out that not a single one of those light bulbs in those chandeliers is a one of those freaking mercury filled energy saving light bulbs. Why don't you get some of them ugly ass electricity spewing mercury filled light bulbs in the White House, White House, Mr. President, start that. That's a good one. Yeah, it pisses me off. You can tell you know, you can tell by these light bulbs. They're not energy savers. Oh, yeah. No, they're they're soaking it up. Yeah, they should they just gonna have to do cap and trade. Oh god. Oh, you didn't get to see well, I didn't see that. That's what you say. Yeah, go ahead.

19:25 You saw it? You saw Night... what is it called? Newsnight? I don't know what you're talking about. No, I didn't see Newsnight. Okay, Newsnight and the BBC this week. They had a complete documentary on PowerShift 09. Oh, nice. Now, PowerShift.org, people can go out there and check it out. It's a green activist's And essentially the government has taken over this particular conference and they loaded it up with Obama people. The keynoter was the EPA woman, Paul Podesta, one of the staffers, one of the major staffers, second in command of one of these other guys, looked like the organizer from the way they had this thing structured, the way they did the

20:16 uh... the show this documentary uh... bill clinton was there there's a everybody was loaded up there was loaded up with these guys and here's what i'm so much in this thing thinking well this is just another and they got all these kids is a bunch of young people and again i'm all pumped up with you know this green green green green green stuff and you know global warming and so then they jump to showing some of the behind-the-scenes seminars and they always have the breakouts of course So the breakouts are training the kids on civil disobedience, resisting arrest, How to do sit-ins properly, how to lock arms, how to do passive resistance. Wait a minute, let me get this straight. And anybody who happens to be one of those people, I'd like to ask a question. Since when does the government train the youth to do these sorts of things? The first thing I thought of was either Nazi youth or the young kind. Wait a minute, this was American youth or British youth?

21:21 that the first thing i thought it was either nazi youth or the young communist party this is training the youth what was the government really what it was this british youth or american youth i'm confused american youth this is all americans of this did that show it was a british show but the images in the united states this meeting and it was our government training kids to do did to how to do sit-ins how to lock arms how to resist the rest of the game is not what it is resisting against the government you go apparently not i would think it's a resisting against big business who doesn't do what they're supposed to do that's the only exit only thing i guess yeah

21:58 It was stunning. I was shocked. I saw Rahm Emanuel, he was interviewed on CNBC and I didn't see the whole interview, I just saw a sound bite, but one of his answers was literally, you know, we're in a fantastic place right now where there's an opportunity to figure out what the relationship really should be between big business and government. I'm like, oh my God, the guy's just out and out saying it. They want to have control. There's got to be some kind of takeover or some kind of relationship. Yeah, and if you don't knuckle under, then the kids are going to be sent over there to protest, sit in, harass you essentially. This is harassment. I mean they're training the kids to be harassers, because there's people who haven't signed on to 100% of the green initiative. And of course the whole thing boiled down once again because of the keynoter and everybody else brought it up. Cap and trade, cap and trade, carbon credits, carbon credits, cap and trade.

22:55 So let's talk about Cap and Trig for a second. We gotta talk about this because while these, and we have to get back to swine flu eventually, but you know the swine flu whether intentional or not is definitely a beautiful piece of cover for the legislation hearings that are going on right now in the US Senate. Al Gore on the stand and uh... there were a couple of republicans who are tearing him a new one and i want and and it's about cap and trade and that we talked about this in the last show uh... where the uh... uh... i think the uh... representative i was asking about his involvement in that was he gonna make money on uh... on his own allied any any out now like now let me just bring up this uh... this video this is from uh... earlier in the week

23:46 And hopefully, we've had some massive problems with our connection so I hope that playing this is not going to screw up our Skype connection. In fact, it's even coming up really slow. You still there? Yeah. Okay. I hate this. God, I can't wait to just be back in the regular Gitmo nation east where shit works. All right, here we go. This is... These are the hearings on climate change legislation. so this is a very big deal this is where the taxes and and you know indeed this cap and trade whatever that may be a and just listen to gore man you just gotta listen to some of the shit he's saying and and i'll probably have to skip around the business as we debate agree is a very critical piece of legislation a piece of legislation and in my opinion in many many others would have a very detrimental effects on our economy if it was implemented the way it's been drafted

24:42 uh... we've been trying to get a quantifiable grasp on the cost of this bill how much uh... it would actually cost american families how many jobs would be create uh... created and lost and we've got a light that one of the screen is a lost their divergent views we've had done all right so i'm not to skip around in this so al gore's is uh... He's testifying. That's not a cutesy issue. It's not an open issue. It's your and it's your opinion Obviously you've stated it many times. It's the it's the what you talk to the opinion of the global Scientific community and more importantly and not in you know, right now I have to back up because a couple things that gore says here So he's basically being attacked by these Republicans who are saying, you know, hey this global warming shit, you know It's not even proven and gore like goes into this

25:29 tirade about the science is not discussable it's undisputable everyone agrees is what I'm trying to find. Who have given completely different views. Well there are. So I would I would I would encourage you to go back and look at the testimony this committee's heard. There are people who still believe that the moon landing was staged on a movie lot in Arizona. Are you there John? Yeah, that's unbelievable somebody would throw that in. That's a specious bunch of crap. I mean, can you believe that he... So the guy says, look, there are people who disagree with global warming and he comes up and he says, oh please, there are people who... by the way, I happen to be one of them. There are people who believe we didn't land on the moon. Now,

26:09 i'm gonna see if i can get to the to the piece that it's just blows me away uh... if not i'm just gonna paraphrase neither of us one of those and i know you like given those cute anecdotes this is not a cutesy issue we're talking about no export millions of jobs out of our economy out of our country and testimony has been given just to those numbers and so we're talking about a serious consequence that there would be on this country and the carbon leakage that would occur where the carbon would be admitted but it would be a million china in india in the jobs would go to china in india So what Steve Scalise is saying is cap and trade, and of course no one really understands what cap and trade is, cap and trade is essentially where there's taxes and an entire exchange of carbon emissions

26:57 that will result in not actually spewing less emissions into the atmosphere, just moving it away from a country. So instead of it being spewed out in the United States, you trade these carbon emissions, the right, like a license to emit lethal carbon dioxide into the atmosphere so china or some other country would buy those up and they just do the shit in the atmosphere and the whole point is that uh... that this actually isn't going to do anything for for the environment, but that it's going to do a lot for people who set up the exchanges. Now here's the point, and I'm sure I just can't find it, John. You're still there with me, right? Oh yeah. Yeah. You got to listen to... Let me see if I can find this. It's near the end. Crap. This is so poorly produced.

27:48 play it is a generally always produce it well because i know the reason to and i'm gonna have to write it on the while we want to run out of your it because it's the biggest crisis we've ever faced and no one who's come before this committee from a scientific basis can show us the smoking gun that mankind is causing this to happen there are you can create relationships between the number of sunspots in the partisan makeup of the Senate anything can be proven if you're willing to take the time to have the numbers let me just go to another point because it was a terribly could I respond to that no I need to make this point up mr. dr. apt who was with us yesterday and he said it so eloquently that we have to focus on reducing carbon dioxide so I can't find it but in this in this bit it's like nine minutes you listen to this

28:35 So one of these guys says, well, Mr. Vice President, I understand that you took several meetings with Ken Lay during your vice presidency, Ken Lay of course of Enron, and that he was a major advisor on the initiation and the founding of your cap and trade system. and and gore comes back and this is what i wish i could find for you know just didn't have the time with whatever you set up to what what what he says is yeah i know i sure i had some conversations with kent but i didn't call him kenny boy i didn't know him that well i didn't call him kenny boy

29:16 Right here is such a gem of information that the people who set up the fake trading system that turned off the lights in California responsible for actual deaths people who fried in their homes that the exact same scam is being set up for the so-called cap and trade so that's really it's like setting up a new Nasdaq or a new you know an electronic trading system. well we have a little exactly to well oil thanks to the scammers and gore and by the way did he eat himself the guys huge is a big he's big big boy and but but uh... he is a by the way did if you remember from last week that people are responsible for global warming so he should be ashamed of himself

30:02 I'm sorry. I didn't have all of that set up. I thought it was a much shorter clip It's like nine minutes, but if you if you watch that and just you got to watch gore's expressions. He's like You know sighing it's like a 12 year old and I know you know rolling his eyes like you guys are nuts and and this is proven There's no dispute and we're gonna we're all gonna die if we don't use my cap-and-trade system So I'm I'm just I'm really really You seem annoyed. Well, annoyed, but you know, so we have this swine flu that's... Right, 236 cases worldwide. By the way, for people who don't know the stats, about a half a million people a year die of the flu. Yes, 36 to 40,000 people in America alone. We have 236 cases of this flu worldwide.

30:55 So everybody's freaked out. Oh, here you are. So I'm watching this thing because I was watching CNN the other day and all they talked about was this. They're trying to panic the public. I think these networks should be ashamed of themselves. They should be giving people good advice and making them learn things. John, networks, networks, newspapers, radio. I mean, there are people on this. I've traveled. There were people in the airport wearing face masks. This is crazy! I have the swine flu! I'm getting over it! I'm fine! Oink, oink! I got a tail! I feel good! I had a sweaty weekend! I coughed! You know, I'm alive! So here's the, so I'm watching CNN and they're talking about the, and they're cutting from place to place to place and here they go, they cut to a, got to the reporter in Virginia of all places. I think it was Virginia because it was CNN. He just, you know, basically stepped outside. Well, I guess they're actually in Atlanta, but anyway, so there was reporting from back east somewhere and he's wearing the mask while doing the report.

31:54 You know, he's like talking through the mask with his report. There's nobody around him. There's nothing else going on. And he's got the stupid mask on. And I'm thinking, what is this person's crazy? This network, they should fire somebody like that. So there's a very interesting parallel to be drawn, a very similar situation. In fact, it was Congressman Ron Paul who I heard speak about this just the other day. And he finds this whole situation interesting because in 1976 there was an outbreak of swine flu in the United States, exact same scenario except it didn't, a little different because it didn't originate in Mexico, it actually originated on an army base.

32:38 and some of our listeners will remember this. There was the same thing, oh you know it's horrible, we've got the pandemic, people are going to die. And yes, one or two people died from the flu, whether it was swine flu or whatever variant. But what was worse is they rushed through these bills to vaccinate everybody, which uh... ron paul who was probably just a uh... congressman at the time uh... voted against obviously is one of the only two people saying hey you know we shouldn't be in the business of health care you know the work you know we're not doctors we don't know we're talking about and what happened is twenty five or thirty people died actually from the vaccinations they had to stop the vaccination program do you remember that john

33:22 Oh yeah, I think it was more than that. In fact, I was working at the time when this happened for the government and one of the guys in our office got the swine flu because of the vaccination. Yeah, well because a vaccination by definition is the virus. You are given the virus. Well apparently they put too much in. Oops, sorry. Sorry about that, buddy. Well, but I still think that the idea that there's a big stockpile of Tamiflu may have something to do with this. Although the smoke screen theory is good too. Whatever the case is, the public is so stupid that if they think that eating pork has anything to do with this disease, this is an issue with the education system.

34:04 I mean, the public has been allowed to become so stupid that they don't know the difference between an airborne disease and eating cooked meat. as a transmitter of a disease, it's almost ridiculous. Well you know, but John, it's conditioning, it's training, and so I call home and you know my wife and my daughter, they know what we talk about, they know my stance on this stuff and throughout this, she calls up, says, hey man, what's going on with the swine flu? I said, oh honey, I got it, don't worry about it, I'll be fine, I got a cough I'm getting over it and in fact I am much better and then you know she's long for the ride and then all of a sudden we go to level five. I call her last night which was early this morning UK time and she's like well you know yeah you can hear that she's bought into it because she's conditioned by the way the whole news cycle works and now we're at a very interesting point which will be of

35:04 It's of interest to me because it concerns my family. But now that we have level 5, the World Health Organization sets these levels. There's one more level to go. This my wife knows all too well because level 6 basically means, we're fucked, head for the hills. So 5 means all countries should enact or activate their pandemic flu programs, which means once again we're going to get into the probably obligatory vaccination realm. and I will tell you that I will not take a shot. But I do. Why would you if you already had been exposed and had gotten over it? Because, well it's the same education thing. People are stupid and I have to say, well people aren't stupid, they're conditioned to be stupid and I know that when it comes down to it, if there's forced vaccinations, my wife will take the shot!

35:57 And it scares me, I don't know what to tell her, you know, and she's like, oh come on. She said, oh yeah, I know it's not all that bad, it's just the flu. This is because this is your fault. Because you take fault is it's only your fault because you take these crackpot positions on everything with no exceptions And so then she doesn't take you seriously. She doesn't take me seriously on any of my crackpot You're all you're only crackpot that's the problem you're too consistently crackpot not only crackpot So let's go over to something else that's kind of interesting in regards to this exact same story. Can I just say one thing on this just to finalize this one issue? So we're gonna do a hedge, essentially. The hedge strategy is she takes the shot, I don't take the shot, hopefully one of us will be alive to take care of our daughter. That's the hedge.

36:52 You've already had the swine flu, you said. So you wouldn't need to take the shot anyway. It's not much of a hedge. I know, but even that she doesn't believe. Oh, you don't have the swine flu? See, of course I just had a version of the swine flu, whatever flu is running around here. And I know other people who've had it. You know, it could be pretty, yeah, you know, you might, it's actually possible. So let me bring up the story that makes this a little more interesting to me. Because as anyone who's listened to the show knows, I advocate everybody have a dose of Tamiflu or Relenza with them if they travel around and they don't want to really have to go through these symptoms. And I explained how this product works. I know you don't like the idea, but this is essentially it. So this guy, Marco, one of our producers as a matter of fact, Marco in Portland goes to the doctor at Kaiser.

37:39 and he's got the flu or his daughter does or somebody does in the family, I don't have the letter in front of me, and he says he'd like to get a Tamiflu for this flu. And the doctor says, no, we're not giving out any Tamiflu. And he tried to get it, he says, I just need a prophylactic, I need, maybe to prevent getting the flu in the future, I just want a prescription for the Tamiflu. And the doctor refused to get it, give it to him, saying that they can't at this point give out any prescriptions for Tamiflu without clearing it through the CDC. The CDC? That's what it says. The CDC?

38:20 They're in control of this? Oh, I thought Napolitano was in charge of it. Isn't this the Department of Homeland Security business? I'm just telling you what he told me. I mean, maybe, you know, I backed him up and said, hey, look, I bet you that's just Kaiser. Because if I'm not mistaken, when you get a prescription from Kaiser, they cover like most of the cost of it. And Tamiflu is really expensive. And they're just saying, you know, they probably had meetings saying, look, there's no swine flu around here. This is bogus. We're going to have people coming in here getting Tamiflu. It's going to cost us a fortune. Our numbers are going to go to the toilet. Just tell them no. Make something up.

38:56 I don't believe for a minute that the CDC has anything to do with prescriptions. If somebody out there can document that, I would be very interested. So you know that President Obama immediately asked for $1.5 billion in emergency funding for vaccination? You heard about this? Yeah, okay, so that pissed me off because we know in the budget that's already four billion dollars already built in for stockpiles Why do we need this additional 1.5 billion? I don't get it these guys are spending like drunken sailors and It's it just blows my mind it absolutely blows my mind so anyway position of this show is

39:38 is that there's really little to worry about and I just don't understand why the media is on this. I mean, are they literally that programmed or is it... it can only be one... it can only be a few things that are actually happening. Either A, the government knows that actually it is horrible and we're all going to die throwing up blood in the streets. Possible. I don't know. Or, it's just a complete scam and apparently most of the news media is in on the scam. Or everyone's so desperate for any inkling of ratings to make some money that they'll just do whatever and they don't care. I mean, I don't see any other option.

40:23 I like the guy with the mask. I mean, I wish I had that on tape. I just think he shot some pictures of it. So I think it's a combination of all those things and also the stupidity factor. There's one other element that's cropped up and I'm not absolutely sure. This cropped up late in the game. and I think it was done as a mistake or something in some way. I don't know that... I mean this flu apparently is an H1N1 type and you know they have these... you can have the variety of the way these things are pieced together. You get these different kinds of flus and H1N1 is the kind of flu that was also called the Spanish flu which is the one that killed 40 million people around the world you know in 1918.

41:01 and uh... which was a sick and we know we don't want those guys up to take dna uh... it was a few months ago and that brings up to other points that she was longer than that uh... we had a guy dug up so i think it's got a bill was the year ago but anyway so there's the uh... implies when you're having fun what can i tell you It brings up a couple interesting points. One, I only picked up on the H1N1 thing recently when they were trying to rename the flu. In other words, this thing got started, it got underway, and all of a sudden it got the name swine flu. And so then they said, oh shit, we forgot to bring up the fact that it's H1N1, we can freak them out with that. It's got to have an H and an N in there. You've got to have those HN numbers. How are we going to do that? We can't use that now. They said, yeah, we can. Swine flu insults Muslims.

41:46 Change the name. Change the name. Right, right, right. There's nobody but know it the first thing you say we'll get what we call it Mexican flu. You can't do that It's a very insulting so anyway, so they tried to do but they couldn't manage it So nobody knows it's h1n1 and it so that that whole propaganda thing is just blown out of the window Now the other thing is that if you remember when this thing first cropped up There are two or three scientists that came in out of the blue and said this thing has been structured Yeah, it's been engineered in effect in a lab. There's no way that you can just have this unless you know You've got birds screwing pigs exactly so i would like the way i i think i've seen that movie on my uh... my uh... hotel on the land and on demand you have to take a quick break because i have a uh... not at the door uh... and of course i don't have my jingle already because uh... i'm just happy we we've got all the stuff hanging together here sir uh... it's been a very challenging uh... technical show this one are you back okay

42:52 while uh... well john is a getting the knock at the door i might as well tell you that there's a night i want him to listen to that yeah okay so um... on april twenty second cnn reported so this is before april twenty second is before it uh... it hit our shores right uh... april twenty-second yeah i guess so uh... reports Vials of a potentially dangerous virus have prompted an army investigation in the disappearance from a lab in Maryland. And it was vials of the Venezuelan equine encephalitis.

43:34 virus that's cephalitis yeah that's what I mean a virus that sickens horses and can spread to humans by mosquitoes now this is all interesting because we know that there were 21 polo horses that died around the same the same the same period there is just so much certainly circumstantial evidence that says that this is this has been you know, engineered somewhere. My God, Baxter International, the company that admitted that they put live bird flu virus into flu vaccinations, which was caught by the distribution company and was luckily, as far as we know, not distributed to people, they're the ones that have been tapped to make the vaccine for the swine flu. I mean, does it get any more transparent than that? Well, it's not transparent to anybody apparently, except us. Yeah, and then of course

44:28 just to make sure that it was possible that this mystical virus spread to Europe. They had a couple of vials of the stuff explode on a train in Switzerland. I love that one. Oh, I didn't get that story. Oh, this is funny. No, it was in Das Bild, which of course does fantastic reporting, the German Bild magazine. I'll read you the article. I thought I sent you this on email. I was so blown away by it. I Twittered it and it got retweeted a lot. According to police sources, a technician from the National Center for Influenza in Geneva was traveling to Zurich carrying eight glass containers, five of which held the swine flu virus. Of course, you want to put that on a train, don't you? The containers holding the virus were commissioned by the Federal Office of Public Health for the Geneva Center in order to develop a test to detect swine flu.

45:20 The vessels were, according to reports, securely packaged three times and hermetically sealed and cooled with dry ice. And here it comes, John. The packaging of dry ice, however, was clearly not done properly as pressure built up in the container during the journey. At 6.39 p.m., shortly before the train arrived at Freiburg station, there was an explosion. So this flu exploded from the dry ice on the train. I mean... Unbelievable. Yeah, that's one way of getting it out. Just put a container with dry ice in it and heat it up and see how long it takes for it to blow. It's...

46:05 Now of course Mexico received 200 million dollars from the World Bank to help with their swine flu issues. Sanofi Aventis, I mean there's so much and all of this is in the show notes by the way at noagenda.mivio.com you want to look through a lot of these. Sanofi Aventis announced on the 19th of March before all of this started up an agreement with the Mexican authorities to build a 100 million euro facility to manufacture influenza vaccine in Mexico. I mean, could it be any more clear that this thing is just... May I remind people that one of the major shareholders and former CEO of the company that makes Tamiflu is Donald Rumsfeld, one of the most evil guys in the country. Do people even know this?

47:01 Nobody cares. They just don't care. So yeah, well anyway, that's our flu thing. I think people should, my wife's freaked out, she's like, I guess like yours. She's all worried, you know, because her friend Teresa was in Mexico, Ensenada. She's not even in Mexico. She's coming back. It's like being in Austin, man, come on. And you have the 263, yeah, 260 or 236 known cases worldwide. And I just say people, this is another thing with the dumbing down of the public. Do the math. We have 350 million people in this country alone. Yeah. 120 people a day die on the US roads. Yeah. Yeah. It's unbelievable.

47:53 So, yeah, I know, it's just amazing to me that again, you know, people just don't, they just think everything's, you know, there's three people in the world, they're one of them, and the other two are sick and they're gonna die and they're gonna pass it on to them. And I just don't see them understand it quite, but you know, it's just the way it is. So what else do we have on our list? Oh, I got one for you. This is a topper. Okay, hit me. So I'm going to all these fancy restaurants throughout Holland. And I will have a report. Yes, good, because I'm sure I've been to a few of them and I wouldn't mind hearing. I'm finding that they're so much the same, all the top ones. I mean in terms of decor, in terms of the way they present the food, and in fact the scraper thing is even the same from place to place. I find it distressing. There's one consulting firm obviously doing all these great restaurants.

48:40 so we're at one of these places and at the bottom of the menu it says and I think there's some over we're missing the opportunity here the hostess is are dressed by a max Mara and suit support only is dressed by suit support excellent yeah this is an opportunity at John C. Dvorak's wardrobe provided by Giorgio Armani. Yes, to say the least. Hey man, do we have any updates on donations? I know you've been busy, you might not have had a chance to log in. Yeah, there's a few. We don't have another night, but we have a few and I'll run through them on Sunday when I can put them together. I did have one guy complaining that we shouldn't be getting any donations because we both have jobs and we are getting paid by our employers, so why do we need money? I figured the guy's either 12 years old or an idiot. Yeah, really? And he says he'd never give us any money ever. Okay, well, that's fine.

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51:55 uh... so i and the big show picture and we don't buy the way we don't spend a lot of time and if you did it but i think that was a forty five seconds and then we don't sit here and go on and on and on for hours on and which we're gonna have to do eventually if we don't uh... get uh... more response someone had an interesting idea uh... emailed me i think you were copied on it said maybe one of the donation ideas we could do a pledge drive and we could give away a meal with you and I. And I'm thinking we have enough money in the kitty to actually, let's say if we're both in San Francisco, we could take some of that money and fly someone out.

52:36 Yeah, we could. We can arrange something. I said that I didn't think we were together in the same town enough of the time to make that work because it has to coordinate with the other person too. But yeah, we can come up with something like the dinner with Adam and John if you want to You know, I don't know if that I'm thinking you know, you'd give us $100 and get on to a lottery and then you get dinner with Adam and John or you could give us 200 bucks and you wouldn't have to worry about the lottery. You wouldn't have to go to dinner with us. You stepped all over the punchline. So I'm sorry. I fucked that up, didn't I?

53:13 Yeah, that's okay. That joke is an old setup. I can do it a million times. Letterman has the swine flu, by the way. This I know you don't know. No, I don't know that. Yeah, he was on, it was amazing. I've never seen anything like this in my life. He was on, he had lost his voice completely. I'm not talking like just a little bit, John. It was like, and he was, he was standing, I'm like, why is he even doing the show? And it was so bad, he had the cue card guy do the opening monologue. Then he was, he tried to do the top ten and he couldn't get through it and he said, Paul, why don't you do the top ten? Schaefer does the top ten.

53:49 The guy cannot speak, then he has Jennifer Gardner comes out and you know so everyone was really nice and they got him through it but it was it was I couldn't watch it it was so you could you know because when you can't talk then your timing is off. It was really... He was like an old man which he is but he was like a really old man and it was I couldn't believe he was on the air and it was a complete swine flu. Something happened to Leno and he was like hospitalized and he had a great joke in the monologue. So it's so nice to be here to watch some of that stuff. So he did he went to the hospital everyone's freaking out of course you know if Jay Leno goes then NBC really has no programming they have nothing to draw in any ratings and they're about to move him to this new 10 o'clock time slot in the States.

54:39 And so he says, you know, some people thought I had a heart attack. Some people thought that, you know, I had food poisoning. He said, but in reality, you know, I had had the erection for more than four hours and I really needed professional help. It's funny. Yeah, I thought it was a good one. So talking about that kind of thing, another letter writer and I don't have it in front of me again because I don't have enough equipment here. I'm in a hotel so I don't have these screens I can open up but somebody did send a nasty note about talking about NBC programming. Law and Order Special Victims Unit April 29th episode with Hilary Duff. You know about this. Yeah, yeah, go for it.

55:21 Okay, so the story's about a mom whose daughter dies. and she covers up the death, she dies of I guess measles. And she covers up the death and then she gets caught as a murderer and it turns out that it was her daughter who died of measles and she just couldn't deal with it. And then they found another girl who had measles and her mom didn't vaccinate her against measles And so they indicted her for homicide because of her negligence. Because if she didn't vaccinate her daughter, which she should have done, and her daughter gave measles to the other girl who died, then the woman is directly responsible. She's guilty. And they ran this story, which by the way got a lot of flack in the various forums.

56:16 which is a disgusting story to run because it's a bogus story I never did ever had measles vaccines when I was a kid we all got measles yeah nobody got the measles you got over it you went back to school And here's what the funny thing is about this particular episode. So I decided to look it up on the NBC website. It's not there. No, it's there. Well, no, it's not yet because it just hasn't posted yet, but it will be. But what was interesting is on the website, there's a bunch of ads on the right hand side. Oh, let me guess. MMR? CDC, a callback to our earlier part of our show, the CDC has an ad on the NBC site for adult measles vaccine. Adult measles vaccine? Man! I knew you'd love that one. Does no one see what's going on? Are we not aware of what is happening before our very eyes?

57:16 I was talking to my doctor about, all of a sudden the hepatitis, I have a doctor who's fairly organic and doesn't believe in a lot of stuff. In fact, he takes acupuncture courses. I was talking to him because I said, I was just reading about a hepatitis B vaccine. I said, hepatitis B, is that the one people, what's the purpose of the vaccine? He said, don't take it. he says it unless you're just working with the blood twenty-four percent what you thought is the point of this vaccine and uh... anyway uh... okay wait is the topper i'm still not or you're not done work on a good idea in i'm in well i would get to europe you knows a lot of action here and i said it's a bit slower back there yet you know you know she had all i got his letterman and leno and swine flu any that's that's all the inputs on receiving here

58:10 Okay, so for, I'm working with the software company and there's a guy, and they're connected to a lot of agencies and I'm told the following. According to Spanish military intelligence, Spanish military intelligence, Al Qaeda, they believe Al Qaeda is targeting Spain because apparently the powers that be in the Spanish military intelligence actually believes this to be true. they're still irked about the fact that the Muslims don't own, the caliphate doesn't still own Spain and they decided they're gonna take them back because they knuckled under so easily over that, you know, when they had the trains and remember they blew those trains up? And the next thing you know they voted out the guy from the president, the guy who was actually standing up for our invasions. They got him voted out because the Spanish just knuckled under so they figured they're gonna go, they're gonna try to take him on.

59:14 Could be true. Anyway, that's a little insight. We'll see. From Gitmo Nation, north, north, northwest, from Canada. You know, it's hard to track everything. You can't take your eye off the ball because even though we're very unsuccessful at combating this horrible swine flu, the pirates of course still reign. off the coast of Somalia and I just and someone said one of our Canadian producers sent me this article what the, because of course you know every country in the United Nations I might add is sending a huge warships over there and what are the Canadians doing? You gotta love the Canadians. They have a new tactic. Here's what they do. They fly helicopters near the pirates

1:00:12 with a sign that says stop in Somali and it works apparently. So they have a big sign that says stop you pirates, stop in Somali and it works. Well who knew? It's unbelievable. That is funny. Of course, because it's just kids. You know, it's just 18 year old punks like, oh, all right, okay, we'll stop. I'm sorry. By the way, that brings up another point, which is what happened to that guy that they

1:00:48 Did they brought to New York City? It was just grandstanding, you know, that's all a part of the media show. There has been no follow-up on this. No, of course not, because we've got swine flu. Why would we want to follow up on anything else? Please, give me a break. From the world of aviation, the Dutch released I guess another preliminary report on the Turkish Airlines crash and so now they haven't actually given us a transcript or a copy of the flight data recorder or the cockpit voice recorder but the alarm was going off well before they were in any trouble notifying this crew that the altimeter was off so they knew it because what happens is

1:01:32 you get ground proximity warning saying, you know, literally a voice in the cockpit says, I'm trying to think on the Boeing what it says, but you know, it's like, warning, ground, 50 feet, you know, something like that. And they could see that they weren't at 50 feet. So these guys knew what was happening. They knew that the altimeter was off and still this horrible accident takes place. There's so much more to that one, John. It stinks. apparently. Stinks. Completely stinks. Now see you're getting that. See this is how why I'm so grumpy when I'm back in the San Francisco Bay. You're starting to sound like me. I'm not grumpy actually. I'm feeling pretty good. Yeah? Yeah well now that the uh now the bird flu is over and of course I missed the uh the presidential flyby in New York by one day. That was a shame. That was uh that was quite a uh

1:02:22 You got that news didn't you? Oh yeah, they flew a jet around and now it's a big scandal. That's another don't look here. Oh yeah, nothing to see here. I so do not believe the story that oh we were just doing a photo op. I mean I just I can't believe it. It's just it's not true. Something else happened. Well yeah, and here's the reason that you're probably right. And here's the reason. Why would they tell the New York Police Department point blank not to warn anybody this was going to happen in advance so they could be aware of it? They made a big deal out of it. They said no, you cannot tell anyone we're going to do this. why did it what what would be the point of that and then a new york police who are always distrusted feds so they're they're not gonna listen to these guys anymore ever because it caused a but because they had ended up eating crap over the thing and we're done by the way for people don't know that they took the presidential uh... some forty seven and flew around the statue of liberty uh... for photo ops uh... in the middle of the day and it freaked everybody out new york you know because i was skittish because there's

1:03:27 People were evacuating their office buildings. Yeah, they were freaking out. And so meanwhile, then the follow-up to this is that Obama was livid. You know, who says Obama wasn't on the plane? He could have been. I don't know that he was livid either. I think he was on the plane and something happened and there was a reason to divert. uh... and you know that when the news reports came out it's like it was the backup plane we need backup plane and ever heard of a ship is a backup plane i've never heard of a backup as far as i know there's only one air for the well in it any plane the president is on his is is deemed it or is uh... code name air force one but this was the plane i don't think we have to have them i've never heard of it we had to avoid well of course we have to obama's so it makes sense we have we have to uh...

1:04:16 It would make sense that we have two Air Force Ones. Well, the funny thing is if they do have a second one and they've never mentioned it before because of security reasons, what was the point of blowing it by telling everybody there's two of them? Let's watch the way they backpedal on that one. Yeah, and Robert Gibbs, he immediately was asked in the Daily Press conference, he's like, I don't know. His answer was even better than that. He's like, you need to talk to the White House. Well, who the hell are you then? So you gotta ask the White House. The White House, isn't that you, dude? I don't get it. It is him. What is that? And I'm sure you probably didn't see the, finally we got one on tape.

1:05:01 uh... the obama teleprompter gasp by the way it would be yeah yeah we know you have that i think it is a lot by those in the months to come by the way i don't think it was uh... that that obama's diverted because they told of newark police department way in advance of that flyer around and that's when they told not to to do to they couldn't mention for the cadet dash at clearance for that's my understanding you know some of the i think they were doing is just a civic is here the public and there's something to worry about it well i was uh... What's what's interesting is I immediately of course I go to try and find air traffic control reports You know if if you've got the an f-16 and I only saw one but apparently there were two and you've got the the president's jet Doing low flybys over Manhattan, you know that the rest of the air traffic has to know about that I couldn't hear I couldn't find anything. I couldn't find any reports

1:05:52 or any restricted airspace or anything like that. It's very strange and just to say, oh well yeah, oh I'm sorry. It just doesn't cut it with me. Something else, and I don't have the jingle on standby, but definitely nothing to see here. Please move along folks. Sorry about that. Yeah, they need to do some explaining but nobody cares because of swine flu and bomb is a hundred days and a part of the cast with advising me about national strategies to nurture and sustain a culture of scientific innovation in addition to John Sorry, the I just noticed that I jumped the gun here. Go ahead move it up move it up I'd already have not I had already introduced all you guys. I

1:06:43 in biomedicine. And he just goes on like nothing happened. Well he's gonna fire somebody over that. I mean what does it take to move the teleprompter around accurately? Well these, because of course these are all electronic teleprompters. Back in the day I actually used one that had a conveyor belt with a camera hovering over it with pieces of paper that were slid underneath it. That was the original teleprompter idea. Yeah, it's pretty easy for a page to pop up or I mean it was some you know flunky was in I mean It's easy to screw that up. I think you see it happen all the time in fact watch any of the news networks And you see it happen continuously and they'll even say what are we doing? I love that CNBC Mark Haines always says and now what are we doing now?

1:07:26 Yeah, no, you could there's a way to cover your ass when the teleprompter blows up the time I was at I was a tech TV once and the thing dropped dead on me just dead Yeah, there was no problem. It wasn't gonna get where's the live show and it was it wasn't coming back And so I had to read from the cards or they'd be actually the sheets. Yeah, which is good practice. Anyway, you should well it would yeah Yeah, you should, but the funny thing is it was the first time that ever happened to me in my life. So I did a crappy job of it. Oh. Because I wasn't prepared, but the next time it happened again like about a year later and I was solid with it. And that's why actually when I do Cranky Geeks I don't even use a prompter. I just go right to the cards. Now you're such a professional. No, it's just fun to do.

1:08:05 So, if I was a professional, I'd have a college degree. There's a punchline in there somewhere. I'm sorry, my jokes are in the wrong time zone to be funny. Yeah, it's hard for me too, man. And by the way, I'd just like to point out that people who live on the west coast of America, Gitmo Nation, Northwest, are completely clueless and do not give a rat's ass about the rest of the world. And I'll prove my point. I work in London. And people set up meetings that involve me that are like 3 in the morning. There's never ever one single bit of consideration for this little thing called time zone difference. And at 6.30 this morning my freaking phone rings and it's John C. Dvorak like, good morning, are you ready? Are you ready to do the show?

1:08:57 Like, and I said, John, it's 6.30. And like, oh, I must have miscalculated it. What is it with Americans that do this? People on the West Coast, even like, oh, well, I got to call London. Oh, that's really expensive. People still think it's expensive to call overseas. But it's so hard to calculate eight or nine hours time difference. Did you not get enough sleep? It's just rude! Your wife is so right, you're a rude bastard! Oh, you didn't get enough sleep in your garage. You need a nap. Yeah, I do. I need a nap big time. I think that wraps us up. We'll be able to... Actually, now we're gonna both be on the West Coast and the funny thing is we're both on the West Coast even though the connection will stick. Yeah, the connection will suck more than usual. It'll suck.

1:09:55 Okay, well I have a feeling that we're missing all kinds of stuff. Let me just have a quick look through. I mean, everything, you're so right, you know, often I'm sitting over there in Gitmo Nation East and I'm surprised that you don't know about half the shit that's going on. But when you sit here, there is literally nothing that, I mean, is there even a, do they print a different version of the Financial Times here in the US? I mean, this thing is full of crap as well. Is this just the US version or is this international? I don't understand it. You have no news here. No news! Yeah, no, I know. I've been trying to tell you this and you just keep you get back over here and again You'll forget at least I won't forget the eight hour time difference. Okay? You can take a nap All right only only one more week my friends and we'll be back to our normal schedule and our normal places and our normal show prep and we'll have things a little more set up and

1:10:56 So apologies for the timeliness of the program, for the interruptions due to Skypeology. And there you have it. That's right. So what's the deal? When are you flying back, man? I'm coming back Saturday. Okay. I'll get back in Saturday night. Okay. Can we do Sunday show like at a normal time? Like what? I don't know, I need a nap. Can we not do it at 8 in the morning? No, I don't know, how about 11? How about 11? It's Sunday! Alright, 11's okay, I can do 11. Yeah, no one else will care. Everyone's fine with it. I think even this show going up late, probably more people are interested because we normally do it so damn early. So... Okay, so, uh, conclusion, John?

1:11:50 Conclusion is the same as last week. The swine flu is questionably of importance and we could use your help at dvork.org. Yes. And I'm confused. Never mind. I messed up the timing of the, here let me do this. Okay, great. I'm sucking coming to you from an undisclosed backup crackpot command center in Gitmo Nation West in San Francisco I'm Adam Curry and here in Amsterdam old Amsterdam I'm John C. Dvorak we will talk to you again on Sunday probably around 11 Gitmo Nation West time talk to you then on no agenda