Barry's Choice

00:00 You got kittens, you got a little kitten outside wandering around. Boom done! Adam Curry John C Devorah It's Sunday April 30th 2017 this is your award winning Get My Nation Media assassination episode 9 or 2 5 This is no agenda Watching paint dry in Washington DC so you don't have to and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in the capital of the grown star state Austin Tejas. In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where there's no paint to dry, I am John C DeVore. This is Crackpot & Buzzkill! Yeah...I watched it Well I'm sorry to hear that But that's not my problem man, I've had a rough weekend John, rough weekend How rough was it? Very rough

00:48 Uh, you know we're in the middle of our move here. Oh that's right yeah you were not even at home I am no actually i'm-I am at home it is just but you're in a new home? You're in the new home? No I'm in the old home because they came into pack up Friday and uh and they packed Tina's house on Friday and Monday is when we move so I've been living amongst boxes which has two very serious side effects or not even side effect Number cuts. No, number one is the dust because oh my God there's so much dust and I have the HIPAA filter running 24 seven. I'm trying every now got humidifiers and I woke up this morning and my glands are swollen. My ears hurt like completely screwed but that's not the worst. Oh no it has been very emotional Now The Keeper. Let's get this straight why?

01:48 So the keeper is a minimalist, which I like. Oh, minimalist! Yeah you would like a minimalistic. Yes yeah so we liked that and i said well you know we're gonna move in together...I can certainly get some minimalism going and uh..so....So I don't have all that much stuff but I have this one closet which contains just huge crates of stuff that I've been schlepping around with. That's why she tweeted the pictures? Well I asked her to tweet the pictures because here's what's going on I will never make a joke about you being an archivist ever again. Because i'm an archivist and when I saw the stuff that I've been schlepping around for over a decade

02:36 I mean, i'm talking just big bundles of wires. I must have 15 mixing boards compressor limiters you want a USB cable? You can't name the USB cable! I don't have...I've got 17 old laptops hundreds of USB drives. Wow, you have more old laptops than I have! I know and there's really good laptops like the iBook, the clamshell iBook... Oh yeah that's a winner One of the first trans-tranny laptops that goes from a laptop to a tablet but really an old one we're talking 10 years The first iteration of those things Yeah That was the Microsoft laptop But here is the problem

03:20 I have real emotional issues throwing stuff out. Oh, now I get it! So you're pointing the finger at me who has it completely under control? I've thrown out more laptops than I've kept to just make yourself feel better Well there's a couple things One...I can't be throwing these laptops they may Who knows they may even contain Bitcoin I don't know what's on them so I have to figure out a way To destroy them or you know, you can't even boot them all up. So I don't know how to get the data off unless I just stick a drill into it No, no, I know exactly what you should do Oh this is what i was hoping to hear Take the hard disk out of each one Well you can take a hard disk out of a Mac

04:08 There's gotta be some way to break the mac you can throw out that thing about that's a very collectible mack is one of the worst max ever made. And it's actually telling me it's an actual collectibles now i have even more trouble getting rid of i think that is a collectible so the other ones are not but If you wanted to, I would pull the hard disks out of every one of them and then if you'd want to try and recover what's on the hard disks, you can do that with some equipment. Or just drill it. Wait a minute! I have drives that are firewire. I don't even own a firewire machine anymore. Just drill them in. And throw out... toss em'. See? Then there is another thing. Take the laptops without the hard disks and donate them to a local museum

04:52 Do you think there's a museum that'll take all this crap? There was gotta be one around the country somewhere. I mean, I even have... You remember the cube? The cobalt cube? Yeah, I do remember the cobalt cube! Yeah, I have the original cobalt cube. Why?! Thank you! I'm a hoarder, I just have to say it and I took this all because of my therapy Now you feel better, I hope Because of my therapy i was able to take this all the way back to childhood You know this oh yeah something one of your favorite toys away no i think is I think I was lonely and you know Mike had two sisters believe me when you're the eldest and got two younger sisters as lonely at that.

05:35 And I think that just like I had a lot of stuffed animals on my bed, these are my buddies. My wires and everything... John! It's...I was ill! I actually kind of got ill just thinking what am I doing with...it must be 1000 pounds in weight that I have separated to either given away donated or thrown out Yeah my wife would routinely, she likes to clean up. She doesn't like to clean but she gets on a jag and she likes the cleanup so she'll start cleaning and my daughter's worse I have to be careful with her

06:11 with the cleaning? Because you'll throw good stuff out. Oh no, she just took... I can see her she looks left, she looks right, she doesn't seem to be looking at it boom! And the good stuff goes into the garbage bag What is he doing in your office man what are you doing in your space She can clean this my daughter and particularly make this office spotless I mean actually had a conversation You know I have a big Yamaha keyboard and Tina's like what do we gonna do with that I can't throw this out. What if Elton John... No, you'd give that away! Give that to Salvation Army or put it on the show But wait a minute Well that's an idea I was like what if Elton John drops by and then he says oh Tina I'd like to play song for ya but you've got keyboard Oh you threw the keyboard out? Sorry no song for you

06:57 Wow, yeah that's projecting the future. Yeah or Bruce Hornsby it could happen Oh sure any one of those guys how often have they showed up in the last five years? Well you know I'm in Austin give me a minute oh yeah the place where nobody knows anything about music So its been but seriously it was really surprising to me One, how just how much junk I have collected and have been schlepping for 10 years. This is stuff that is older than 10 years. Creative Labs MP3 players are you kidding me? Oh yeah That's a goner

07:36 I have experimental stuff in here. Now, i'll give you some more advice there's another way to go There is some stuff that you've got that probably worth something for someone Not much but im sure there are some things What not much? Well i think the cobalt cube might be interesting for someone who has a collection thats neat and organized You can put a list of stuff you have and this will make it feel a lot better you put a list of stuff that you need to get rid of any go to good home is somebody claims otherwise just gonna throw it out but there's do you have artifacts that are actually art.

08:17 So what is actually art this is a great way to explain hey baby. This is actually art we should display this in the one of these I've got three display cases that I got at IKEA the kinds are kind of a box with a glass thing in front of it all three have been filled with weird looking mice oh yeah, I have that for Morse code keys That is okay, I think because I think Morse code keys are indeed art. These handmade keys are beautiful and I really enjoy them But that's about the only thing...I'm not going to display computer stuff that's lame No a bunch of mice all tangled up together in a box like that is actually quite interesting as art per se And this coming from you is even more interesting This is your ode? You have a collection of mice

09:06 Go to the house why i started noticing an accumulation of my said id ever used in a ball mouse is one of those anymore that i still have the microsoft mouse with the metal ball. Which is an extreme collectible as far as i'm concerned but who's gonna buy these things so i stuff them in these boxes and present and hung on the wall it looks like some sort of art. Another reason why two separate homes really works well that would work at either house, very attractive piece be surprised i believe you

09:49 And so there's that you can i'm sure that they'd like to MP3 player from creative logical and take an mp3 player go to one of those plastic place a place where you get this apart did not just but is it loose site stuff. Did u can you can, make a mold, cube mold pour this plastic in there and push the thing down into the plastic before it dries. And then let it solidify to a giant plastic cube with the MP3 player embedded. Wow! That'll be worth 50 bucks on Etsy? It won't be worth anything but it will look cool

10:28 Uh, anyway. So no, it was a period of growth. I'm sorry to hear this because of all the grief you've given me a but B didn't you notice this stuff when you moved from the last place? Did I not explain this as a psychological issue that goes back to my childhood? This is blank out. No, I just, I've always been like, Oh, you know how I can throw this up. Let me try this. So running into the minimalist She snapped you into realization is that what happened i was ready i was ready to just been ready have been ready to give this up by just died it all of a sudden hit me and I wasn't quite prepared for it. It was frightening yeah i mean i live and im okay now but man it was a big deal

11:19 And I felt bad because I've chided you. Let me tell ya, per square footage, I know I have a denser pile of crap than you do. Oh yes cause you don't have as much room to spread out? Exactly exactly but that's just been dragging this crap around for decades. That was so frightening why am I doing that what is wrong with me and then realizes I don't want let go the little boy! I don't think that's it I don't think that's it at all. What i think is a problem with a lot of hoarders, let's just call ourselves archivists, you see value

11:57 In all of this stuff and you don't like throwing money away your cheap your cheap tight what that's where really amounts to wait a minute let me look at his old copy of the lotus jazz i know i bet you this is worth ten boxes jazz wow then i could never get lotus jazz to work properly on the mac plus it just never did. I'm in every dialed in the supposed to be like a dial in thing or, Yeah it was the full suite, it had a load of jazz. So you have this stuff that has value because I've watched The Hoarder Show and it always boils down to this is worth something why am I throwing money away? You're right but on the other hand... It's not a little boy anything its bull crap you trying to come up with some romantic reason that your cheapskate

12:48 Now, I'm far from a cheapskate and you know better than that. I'm not a cheapskater. Well you're...I'm not saying that you don't spend money wisely but it does- You don't throw money away! No but I- You're not a throwaway guy But John we're talking about okay there's gear but when you look at the amount of wires Yeah every wire is worth five bucks Five? You're rich! You're a millionaire That's right go podcasting i'm quitting It's quittin time everybody all right so that's been my weekend so far I'm sorry to interrupt. No, no this is good! I feel good about it. Don't be sorry. I'm sorry in a roundabout way but i'll just say that I apologize for making fun of you as an archivist but this just proves you are what you accuse others of. This solidifies and solidifies. Anyway between all the boxes last night...I watched two things. The president's speech in Harrisburg

13:48 Which was I was led to believe it was meant as counter-programming. I think it was much smarter It wasn't counter programming was on just before the White House Correspondents in and what C-SPAN did is they now just so people who don't know every year How long has this been going on? Going for a while, this White House Correspondent's Association. I think it started during the Roosevelt administration maybe yeah And he probably didn't like it But the idea was, the White House Correspondents Association all the... and it's a lot of them. It's a lotta guys and gals. That's thousands! Uh, they have a big party which up until this year was, you know, it got progressively more show business like and the hashtag was nerd party. You know? And I'm like oh, so cool we've got all the cool journalists and look at Wolf Blitzer he looks good in the tuxedo and Oh! He's sitting with Kim Kardashian It was a complete douchebag fest Yeah totally douche baggy with all those Hollywood types yeah and the idea is

14:43 That it's really meant to give out scholarships to journalists and some awards, some cash prizes. You know, some booby prizes! And then the president speaks and he is allowed to excoriate the press a little bit with a couple of videos and some funny jokes Obama was very good at it. And then they typically have a committee... Macon was good at it too? I don't remember that Then they have a comedian come up and he roasts everybody. That's the basic idea, and this year... I think the model that is most recent is the comedian roasts everybody then the president comes after him. Oh, then the president comes after that? I think you're right yeah So this year the president said no I'm not coming screw you guys

15:25 And they, and everything that it broke the whole thing. It broke the mold, it broke everything. They didn't have the red carpet. I was all ready to know you don't want to do it, but I was ready just do it for myself just to make Tina laugh like Oh watch this. I'll do the red cardboards everyone's wearing and they didn't, they didn't show that C-span cut when they were already in and getting started. And it was by far the most boring thing I've ever seen in my life. Well, I'm going to start a tape Let me rack it up. Which tape do you want? I will refer to it throughout the show, but

16:02 And but I wanted to get the first part going he's a guy that is thing running since actually before we had the reboot. And i want to just put on bob woodward yeah, I just wanna put a little bit so we can hear what the pace of this show was like and then throughout the rest of this show will play. I'll just cut back to it cuz its playing right now as we speak gonna cut right in on him and here is what he has said this is the... Yeah, you know what? Document destruction, a massive house cleaning at the Nixon re-election committee. A money trail, an organized well funded cover up... You know just to have these two guys Woodward and Bernstein you know who both have been CIA assets currently or in the recent past was laughable like why don't we get your bosses up on the stage people look here's your boys you do what they do

16:57 Clark McGregor, then the Nixon campaign manager called Ben Bradley the editor of The Washington Post. I mean just when you hear that, the editor of The Washington Post... I'm like oh pass the weed! I can't handle this It was so boring and so bad And although of course the comedian gets rave reviews, I think he bombed quite a bit. Well, I got a clip of that too. Yeah give me that. Okay are we done with Woodward's or will cut back to him later? We'll cut back to him of course. Okay so here...I'll just let it play in the background and then we'll cut in and out. The comedian wasn't funny lets start with that. I don't know who gave them rave reviews. In fact there is couple clips from the comedian which I think… You just need look at face bag to know about the rave reviews

17:48 WHCD joke this is one of his jokes and this is a typical of material. I have a feeling he's sitting in a room full of plutonium waiting to become spider-man that just my hunch. It's this like great material he was nervous he was a he did have one the funny only funny lines when you open is welcome to the last. Washington white house season finale i think it's something like that and here's another one of his

18:29 fabulous, I don't think he put much effort into this either. And he should have hired some other outside writers but it doesn't seem that he did or even used the Daily Show writers which maybe is what he did. This tried the second gag. Now a lot of people think Steve Bannon is the reason Donald Trump dog whistles to racists and that is just not true ask Steve Bannon. Is Steve Bannon here? I do not see Steve Bannon I do not see Steve Bannon. Not see Steve Bannon. Not see Steve Bannon. Not see... Steve Bannon! Yeah, that's on their level

19:23 So saying Nazi Steve Bannon is funny. But I think that the room was sweetened because you could look out there and there wasn't anybody laughing at all, there's a few people smiling very few. Well with this sweetening business i pay a lot of attention to this when they have the room mic depending on who's where things can sound really loud even though maybe one person just near one of the ambience microphones Build Magazine, I just point out as an aside says this is all bullcrap. There was no booing of Ivanka Trump at the event and for build to do that yeah you know the thing we debunked on the last episode and you know same thing maybe there was some room noise that was mic'd near the press pit

20:09 In this case you have nothing but the pro- I'm sure there's all kinds of noises going on, but... You know laughing? No. Only at the end when he went into you know, you guys protect the First Amendment and this is important and blah blah God bless America! And then everyone was like oh standing ovation yes we are important to be a very important no yeah we are important douchebags what ya are We're important well The counter program was actually in it was at the same time with Samantha Bee show Oh, I didn't realize she had that. Okay interesting So she did an hour of press correspondence dinner that was at least five times funnier Yeah Even though it was just still Trump hate Trump hate But i mean here's an example one of her jokes which is just a trump hate joke that was funny to this audience I found it to be slightly annoying I don't like these kind

21:04 You're ridiculing people for their appearance, but this is Samantha B's orangutan joke. POTUS has convinced 88% of his fans that you're an enemy of the people! You basically get paid to stand in a cage while a geriatric orangutan and its pet mobs scream at you It's like a reverse zoo! Ha ha ha... Yeah I don't like that either we do it a lot of course personally But we do that as television executives not as human beings Now the thing that started off with this amanda be sure which was again you it start over the fake press conference that was. Technically quite funny although i get it was a hate thing and there's also then it got preachy which end of province amanda bee sting is it at this this event her counter programming which is

21:50 Again a lot better than the correspondence dinner. Yeah Was oh, I'll tell you what? Well, I'm still playing this a woodward clip Can you please get to see what his shot would he's saying now? Yeah, let me do you have the patch cabling? Yeah, I got it. It should go right to ya baby ever No, okay They not on doors late at night and telephoned from the lobby They hounded him. Yeah, no he's still going John. Yeah okay It took him a long time to get this done. I saw there were some shots, they didn't take pictures of the screen but there were couple shots of people dead asleep. Now get back to the fake press conference Okay here's the fake press conference and i thought this was... This is where it started off and so they do this fake press conference. I think they make some good points because everybody at the press guy- And this is an actress that's on a lot of sitcoms who pretending to be the Press Secretary They're not doing a mockery of Sean Hannity or Sean Spicer Sweaty Sean

22:52 sweaty Sean. And it's actually got some, it's got a couple of funny points. Yes? Yeah hi Ed Bauer the bold faced red font email alert for America's uncles is tonight special going to be like every episode of Full Frontal where Sam just talks about vaginas for half hour no buttercup tonight she'll be talking about them for a full hour take a Skype question because I guess that's the thing now yes Leonard Skinner tribute band member Yes, speaking as a fringe nutjob survivalist who unaccountably drinks his own urine What's your question? No question. Is anyone here a reporter? I'm an American, US News Yeah i know you're from Russia today Joan Stern wakeupsheeplenewsbiz.org Next okay last question Opus Dei Lloyd Merkin protocols of the elders of Zion why hasn't Samantha Bee commented on the allegations that she's a witch Okay you know what

23:55 You people are monsters. Yes, we have freedom of speech and of the press in this country and that is a beautiful thing so if a morally bankrupt gang of racist bloggers anarchists dominionist radio hosts and rancid women haters want to call themselves journalists no one can stop you but you are part of the reason that no one trusts the real press these journalists work day and night to find the truth write it down or tell it to a camera What a circle jerk. That's pretty funny. At least she didn't put podcasters in there. Yeah, well that she could have it would've been actually that would have been funny if you dropped out and yeah they missed that. They got the peppy part. Let me uh let me play a couple of clips that I have here. Uh right? The one that I thought was now the I'm going to go back to the other counter programming um now before lemme see what's the best way to do this? Yeah okay we'll come back to but lemme see is we're still talking?

25:15 We'll come back to that in a moment. Maybe just for second play, three quick like little nuggets from the Harrisburg Pennsylvania counter-programming show which I thought was pretty good actually for couple of reasons One is the crowd really knew exactly what they wanted to do You can hear them say CNN sucks Yeah kind of What was cool is that I want to get this sound from cspan.org

26:00 And you can search within the transcript of each video. I did a search for CNN sucks and it was in there they transcribed what the crowd was saying which i thought that was pretty good Then we had one of these beautiful only Donald Trump moments Thank You For That Sign Black's For Trump, I love that guy! Black's For Trump! Look at that guy! But then he goes old brother on him Thank you thank you man Thank you, man. Hey man power to Black Power Man that's great That's really cool I appreciate it and I know he's sincere but God comes out really weird doesn't yeah? One guy And then my favorite is you know if you want to be this was just unbelievable to me I was smiling thought this whole thing was so funny

26:49 So the best thing to do when you want to let someone know that they're doing something wrong is say, I'm not going to say you're doing this. I'm not gonna say that what you're doing here is wrong. You're telling them but at the same time you're saying I'm not gonna tell you about that and this was regarding the media's incessant hysteria over the meeting with Chinese president pronoun Xi who Donald Trump had a meeting in Mar-a-Lago and he's like, and the press said hey you didn't call him currency manipulator like you said you would do. Huh? Why didn't you do that so we tried to explain this. You have China who is really trying to help us as you've seen they've sent back vast amounts of coal coming out of North Korea

27:32 So let's see what happens. And I think it is not exactly the right time to call China a currency manipulator right now, do we agree with that? It is just not the right time. But they never say that! They say why didn't he do it? He repeated that several times. It is just not the right time to call them a currency manipulator. He basically called them a currency manipulator but oh I don't want to do it right now Very, very interesting from a United States president. So this especially the CNN stuff and then he spent a lot of time on fake news media and excoriating everybody of course And so before we went to the White House Correspondents non-event they had a nine person panel on CNN it's... They're insane over there do they not see that this doesn't even look good in the shot?

28:26 I know their shots are terrible. By the way, I should mention Samantha Bee did a whole segment on CNN targeting Jeff Zucker. Oh good. Well he's just making entertainment you know so he's doing what it was hired to do. She had plenty of clips of him saying that too But Paul Begala? Who is this douche? I've seen him all the time Yeah Paul Begala He's a Clinton stooge Oh well listen to his response the president's speech in Harrisburg. What he needs as a president, though is to unify the country. What he needs as politician is to expand his base Okay? If you want to be small-minded He needs to expand his base of politicians But as a president... ...He NEEDS TO EXPAND The moment that when we were watching this John You pointed out when he hollered at that protester That IS NOT how a president behaves And I went back and looked

29:31 During the campaign, this one we just finished President Obama was speaking in North Carolina and a protester stood up interrupted his speech for minutes on end much longer than Trump. And the president of the United States told the crowd which was rabid pro-Obama of course stop Look at this man. He said he's a first he's older and he is entitled to our respect second We believe in free speech in this country. It's an American value He had a shirt or a hat that looked like he was a veteran. He said we owe him Thanks for his service. He called that crowd to a higher better place Trump isn't capable of doing that And if we're gonna wait one thousand three hundred sixty-one days, and he's still going to be the moral midget That you saw on that stand in Harrisburg

30:08 So what sticks out here of course is the term moral midget. That's interesting well that's not what sticks out to me Well, yeah The thing that is of course a complete false equivalency Is some douchebag protester who gets kicked out within two seconds and a veteran who stands up and wants to say something? No no if you remember we both blew this veteran thing that was a scam it was a scam I know but just like all the other ones that Obama has done The only one that we could find where it was sincerely happening Extra was a couple but they didn't broadcast to many and what's when he was in his own white house and this person started saying something hey no bomb goes nuts for my house you can drink my drinks we have all those clips.

30:49 And that is the old but you have been made in the songs so this big dispark character disguise as a really dreadful. He's a sickening person to be on any of these shows because it's full crap Yes, of course he is. But I think we have this on CNN. I mean, CNN just that's all they have on there. They wonder it's I think it's transparent to the viewing public that these guys are insincere phonies. I hope so. Although I don't think so. I think that I think heads were exploding if any dimension B people saw this Harrisburg speech, I think their head would explode

31:35 They won't watch it. They hate him, they hate him, they hate him. Now before on C-Span as I was watching C-Span they didn't do the red carpet. They re aired something i'd missed on Friday on c-span and there was a conversation amongst journalists uh... It was the state of the news media On it was Jake Tapper, Katie Turr and Brian Seltzer-Water from CNN. And here is Brian Seltzer talking about how he views the audience and the American public at large. So facts are just these little wisps of things in the wind that blow away? If that's the case, Brian why bother correcting facts

32:23 Well, I don't think we're in a post-fact world or a post fact check world or a post truth world. We are only in that world if all of us agree to be and everybody else agrees to be there are alternative realities though. There are two alternatives realities and then many many alternative realities. I find myself thinking about that but with regards to post truth, post fact It's only if we all allow it to be. Just because there is an alternative reality that we might label as the Alex Jones Infowars bubble, just because those folks live with a different set of facts doesn't mean that were post fact as a society. Where did this alternate universe story come from? Came from the alternate universe! Again no agenda show way ahead of the pack Yeah I have these clips too now since you played them and i can't figure out which are the two is which Well im gonna play my second one let me play my second one here

33:16 This is Jake Tapper responding to what Seltzer Water said. Let me also say, there's been a lot of attention on Trump supporters and I think that's good because the media does need to get outside the bubble but they are minority of the electorate not even just a minority of American people or a minority of the world. They're a minority of the electorate and not all of them believe President Trump no matter what he says And the reason why facts matter is because when President Trump says something about the US armada being headed to the Korean Peninsula and it turns out it's not. Oh man, he still on that one! That becomes a major issue in South Korea during their election

34:01 It's a major issue. Major, it's a major issue. The next one is my favorite because when President Trump suggests that vaccines cause autism despite the fact that the medical community to respected medical and scientific communities say That's not true please don't say that or else people are going to stop getting their kids immunized That's dangerous yes And maybe you should talk to Robert Kennedy while your at it because he's out there really promoting that message I could literally have a life for deaf guys So facts do matter and it's okay that some people don't believe them. 18% of the public thinks that they've seen a ghost good luck Okay, well then that's what you think of your audience huh nice Tapper very nice checking with Bob What's wood we're saying Ben Bradley Oh my goodness it takes forever that guy all right once you got what else you got

34:52 The Katie ter first of my two clips is that she has a couple things to say because she had a lot of experience and i think this is adds a little more dimension then we can talk about what these up with these guys with conclusions they came to why they're wrong. What we said they did not care. They didn't want to hear it. They didn't care that Donald Trump was inconsistent They don't care if he builds the wall or not for the most part, they don't care what he does They believe that when he got into office and they still largely believe this That he will make the decisions better best for the country so facts are just

35:28 and these little wisps of things in the wind that blow away. If that's the case, it is really interesting how I knew you would be interested in Katie Turr and you got the clips of her and I got the clips of Seltzerwater. That's interesting. Now at this point Seltzerwater actually made the best point when he says... He used a term at the end of that first clip of yours where he says an alternative set effects now if The blondie, Trump. Kellyanne Conway. Kellyanne Conway had said an alternative set of facts instead of alternative facts. Right She'd be gold Yeah she messed it up She messed it up because the alternative facts implies even though that's not what she was trying to say but it implies that you have a fact that the water is blue and the alternative facts are red

36:28 as opposed to an alternative set of facts, which has nothing to do with whether the water's blue or red. It has to do with a set of facts that is standalone and your set effects is different because you maybe have more facts, you may have less facts but you may have different facts and different facts. Well what she's trying to get at was just alternate not different the same fact said differently Even though we know that what is going on is that in dimension A and dimension B people are looking at the exact same information and translating it differently. It's exactly the same as the golden white, blue or black dress. It's the same thing! Yeah I think that's the best analogy to be honest about so while were gonna beyond these guys let's go to the Mr. Alternative Facts

37:19 I don't even know why they would put a guy like this on. Well, it's MSNBC so i think that explains it but let's hear what Rob Reiner has to say This man who is the head of our country is a pathological liar and everybody around him is lying there's no other way to look at this thing not only did we know about Michael Flynn there were number of articles there was a letter written by house for our oversight committee it was well-known what michael flynn was doing he was fired by barack obama so that uh... is it's clear and what you jay deon said is absolutely true the one thing that they have been successful at so far is obfuscating the biggest single story that is permeating this country right now and that is really invasion of a foreign power

38:14 hostile foreign power into our democracy. And the Michael Flynn story, aside from the fact that he was taking money from Turkey, from Russia, and clearly that's criminal behavior... The main part of this story and something we haven't even talked about is why? Why with the White House knowing full well that this is who he was they still appointed a national security advisor and that goes to the story of why Sally Yates has been kicked off the stage she'll now come back on and that is she overheard Michael Flynn talking to the US ambassador about

38:57 getting rid of the sanctions. That's the story and that's where we have to start thinking about the undermining of our democracy Wow, wow He made the whole Sally Yates thing up! Sally Yates was fired Hold on hold on let me just bend over Borderliner Yeah borderliner Close I got something to complete it though when you're ready Well the point is that he throws a set sell yates isn't in the white house no she's it was never in the white house how did she. Over here michael flint's conversation she was fired because you wouldn't abide by the new immigration edicts she said i'm not doing that and so they fired her got nothing to do with michael flynn but according to reiner

39:44 It has everything to do with michael because michael flynn's the bad actor is a russian agent allowed putin to run things i mean this guy. And they all listen to me or deferred to him because you know he's a famous director and he has standing in hollywood but it's a lunatic well, this of course came up or sean sweet sean made a very bad showing and you'll understand why it's a bad showing. I'm not entirely clear why they're not just saying what the facts are, and I have some facts here for us So here's one of the questions that came up about this. General Flynn was a career military officer who maintained a high-level security clearance throughout his career in the military His clearance was last reissued by the Obama administration in 2016 with full knowledge of his activities that occurred in 2015 as you point out so, he was issued a security clearance under the Obama administration In the spring of 2016

40:44 trip and transactions that you're referring to occurred in December of 2015. So stupidly, stupidly this guy goes well they vetted him but it was their fault But here I have... Let's check in on Woodward. Washington Post. He is still doing it. But I have here a letter from Flynn's law firm we've read these letters before this is a statement that was sent to Congress yes Congress This is statement by Robert Kellner Covington and Burlington LLP counsel the general Mike Flynn April 27 2017 you didn't see this anywhere interestingly enough We respectfully disagree with representative Cummings characterization of the April 7 2017 letter from DIA as the director of it the Defense Intelligence Agency to the committee DIA's letter actually confirms in a terse section that has been partially redacted

41:43 that General Flynn provided information and documents on a thumb drive to the Department of Defense concerning the RT speaking event in Moscow, including documents reflecting that he was using a speaker's bureau for the event. As you pointed out John, General Flynn provided two briefings to the department one before and one after the event. The department was fully aware of the trip and we urge DIA and the committee to release the full unredacted letter along with the documents that General Flynn provided to DIA during the briefings, in details concerning the in-person briefings provided by General Flynn to DIA." This is fake news. What these people are saying... And it doesn't matter! We know it doesn't matter because Russia still attacked Georgia. We know these things do not matter because the truth is in Rob Reiner. You know he speaks the truth

42:33 But this is so far removed from what they're saying. RT, wow okay whoo! RT should be arresting everybody who speaks in an RT event through a speakers bureau and told the Defense Intelligence Agency all about it before and after he got debriefed. Let's see if Woodward talking about it. No, he's not talking about it. So... I play a little more than that. McGregor reported No, I can't. It's just like paint. Just paint man! So you know... When will- why doesn't sweaty Sean say this? Hey look at this here is this letter Why doesn't he do that? This is what confuses me Does he not know? Is he an imbecile? Don't answer that But does he not know You know I get the kind of a sense that there Although this could be just nonsense developed by

43:37 New York Times and the Washington Post. But it's possible that they're a little in disarray or they don't really have their act together, and Spicer should do this just on his own unilaterally he should know what you just did that reading from that letter to Cummings who is an idiot is exactly what he should do I don't understand why can't bring himself to do it? I think these guys are out drinking too much Here in Washington DC there's nothing but parties. We played a couple of clips, like a couple shows ago. Nothing but parties going on constantly. This Correspondents Dinner is another example of it. They don't really do their work I still love how everyone is all dressed up like penguins Yeah now we're elites! We're part of the Washington Elites Anyway... I did watch the after show they were showing people like Wolf Blitzer standing around looking for somebody to try and find someone to talk too

44:41 It's just it's actually kind of embarrassing I don't understand that's gotta be one the most uncomfortable events to go to unless you're with a group. And if we do with the group your all uses group up you know and even really mix much i dont think its alot of mix going on anyway was it just reiterate a lot of things once again nice nice nice to see they are indeed morons How long have we been doing the show now? Because I missed my time. Up to almost 10 years now No, i mean today Just for my timing what did we how long and what time did we start that's why I said ten years Anyone in the war room have an idea we've been going for 20 minutes maybe Probably even longer than that We may have gone longer let's see look at the clock I can't tell about an hour Well so I think it's time to uh In that case Let me thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C

45:36 I can't keep track of time over here. Dvorak! In the morning to you, Adam Curry. In the morning to you ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air Subs in the water and all the dames and knights out there. Yes, and in the morning to Everyone in the war room no agenda stream calm good to see everybody there They don't know how long we've been going though I have 69 minutes very everyone's a comedian 33 years ha ha hey Thanks for not helping 33 years very funny. I do want to say I do want to thank Dennis Cruz Who brought us?

46:18 who brought us the artwork for episode 9 or 2.4, now this was an important one This was the Golden Bozos episode and the artwork... Now we had a number of- you made a comment which is very funny that instead of dropping these small diameter bombs We should just drop Ferraris on ISIS because it's about the same price And there were a number of people who had... Cheaper. Yeah, had Ferraris dropping out of airplanes and we for some reason chose the Chevy, the red Chevy! Well it was I- We knew it was a Chevy It wasn't like oh this is a Ferrari. No I thought it was actually funny. Cause its red. Thought it was funny. Funny. Were low rent Ferrari's that we put out there. It was but you know they could drop Chevys really be cheap?

47:05 Yeah, same mess. Dump the inventory! You got inventory issues at General Motors? Drop them on to Afghanis but it was a better composed image so we picked it for that reason and a note because the one we wanted initially was a great piece of art It was a hand with thumbs down with a forearm in the French flag colors but it was stolen So don't do that Don't we can't you can repurpose things to a point if you it is really under fair use you can make a parody out of something but you can't. That was just that was just straight lift so please don't do that

47:49 But we do appreciate all that and we do image searches And we can wait it'll be fine, and we appreciate all the work that our artists Do and just have to you know tell you what's going on if you wonder why your artwork wasn't chosen no agenda art generator commas where? You can upload right after the show We always appreciate the work of our artists and thank you very much for your courage and now let's thank some of our executive producers or all Of our executive producers and associate executive producers for episode 9 er 2 5 Yes we have a big donor today Mike Heck from parts unknown $1000 and he is going to be knighted later. He's an instant night yeah so he sent in the handwritten note longhand dear rowan and martin, it has taken me several years of listening to finally get off my tight ass and send some value y'all way

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50:23 Get out of my vagina! Shut up already. Science! You've got karma I fit nicely there in the outro Yeah, it was a good classic, a classic of sorts I like it, look at him workin' Alright Okay Now we have Anton Emmerich In Stockholm Sweden, $430 a minute. Executive producer been listening to about three years now from show 800 of unfortunately I've never donated before so this is long overdue deduce me please yes sir whoops here we go you've been de-douche

51:06 I'm gonna keep this a bit short because i'm about to go to Upsala or for Vorgensmaso so often at some event, I guess. What? It's celebrated at 4 30 hence the amount and I well four thirty that's what he gave us. I want to get this donation on time. I have-I do have a douchebag call out to Marcus in Upsilon. Douchebags! He's been listening for at least a year is never don't never donated i want to thank you both for this are outstanding product which have helped me stay sane the last couple of years im in sweden the discourse has actually become more. Has become more sound it was

51:49 What did you say here the discourse has actually become more sound in the last oh more sound in the last year, but still Wow Ironically I'm writing this Writing this my two friends progressive females are watching RuPaul's drag race and started discussing some drag queen coming out as non-binary Being non binary something to come out as a big event John This needs to be celebrated. How do you come out as non-binary is the question. Here's how it goes, I want to thank you for coming tonight i want to let you know it's been a long time but i need you to know i'm non-binary yeah and i'm not making fun of it! I mean that's...I presume it's just as big a deal as coming out as gay or

52:36 or a heroin addict. I'm not comparing them, I'm just saying when you've got to tell people that there's something you've been hiding or that you- Whatever it is...I don't even know what it means Anyway now I am starting to ramble and won't be able to listen to this episode live since hopefully we'll be way fucked up enjoying Valborg Woo! But please may have the following jingles Mac n cheese Can you see the juice? Anything from The Seed Man And we will throw in a gratuitous karma for him I think That would be good Right You slaves can get used to mac and cheese. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Cheap macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Oh my gosh! Can you see that juice? For 20 years they've been growing open-air HIV corn in Texas. Protogen. You know about pharmacological corn? Thanks EJ for 20 years

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1:04:27 That's very nice. I'm sure they appreciate it as well we got some good ones for this show too you've got karma And that's it for our executive producers Associate executive producers, and I do have a nice PR mention here Jake Lester has been working on this for a while he has completed the Amazon echo skill for the program And a skill means it's now baked into every Amazon Echo. And you can do this, and I think... How does that work? I should demonstrate it. You could demonstrate but that's not telling me how it works! Okay with the Amazon Echo you can set up what they call skills so you can use their API and you can then enable, and its now enabled for everybody, a No Agenda Skill So you can ask No Agenda to do something

1:05:20 And in this case you have a number of options and I'd like to demonstrate them. Of course we don't call our... ours is not Alexa, we've changed that to Book of Knowledge so you'll hear it a little differently but you can do this at home So let's first ask for the live stream. So we go book of knowledge Ask No Agenda to start the live stream Playing New Agenda Live Book of Knowledge Ask no agenda to start the live stream. There you go, stop so that worked pretty good huh? Are you impressed I'm not understanding this correctly okay

1:06:01 So somebody goes into the API and they, the API which I would think was is a universal APS. And when I programed the API every Alexa machine now all of a sudden has this capability? It's kind of like the app store it has to be approved first so then... Ah you didn't mention that! I'm sorry in fact i gave permission for him to do this because they wouldn't do it without permission from us. I figured it'd be okay. I forged your signature Okay, it's fine. So now everyone can do this but you can also say a book of knowledge... So you could do that way with backup overlook users your preoccupied with the whiz bang part of it I'm kind of interested in and this methodology where you can do something and then Amazon incorporates into their system we have talked about this is a little different well no not really this is a little different than iTunes approving at app

1:06:58 Because you still have to load the app. Yeah, it is different. You're correct. Now there are tons of skills you could ask... you can have an Uber or order an Uber they've got a skill just have to say Ask Uber to book me a car this is the whole kind of idea typically though its rather lame because you have to remember how you speak to the skill We have to say ask no agenda. Yes, yes Yes, if you don't do that then it then it fails So that's kind of lame because it takes away the whole natural better you say play No Agenda stream? Yes But it doesn't work that way You have to activate your application which is now connected but there was an approval process and once it's approved everybody has it Can I do the following a demonstration Oh Yeah, yeah Okay Book of Knowledge

1:07:48 Ask no agenda to play the recent show. Playing new agenda show Stop now here's the cool one there are a couple more things you can do this one I like a lot book of knowledge ask no agenda To play the latest episode skip 33 minutes playing new agenda show Shit dumb thing stop idiot, ha a big fail book of knowledge Ask No Agenda to play the most recent episode, skip 33 minutes. Playing No Agenda show. Ah, bitch. Fucking technology I hate it! It worked earlier! Yeah you don't know that do ya? Yeah betcha don't. Well it works...

1:08:47 You just have to know how to talk to it. It was cool until I messed up the demo, sorry! No VC money for you... Well, I've never seen a demo not mixed-up. That's what technology does. No VC money for you? It does work and you can skip ahead. I don't know why, I must be doing it wrong which shows you the weakness of not being able to use natural language in your commands too bad but anyway Jake I really appreciate it. I'm sure you'll add more little things in there so we'll recognize more phrases like the one I used This is the state of artificial intelligence, by the way. It gives you any idea how far along we are. Oh yeah, the algo is gonna do just great for you! Anyway I want to thank everybody who came in as an executive producer or associate executive producer for today's program it is highly appreciated of course will be thanking more people at near the end of the program $50 and above and everyone else please do remember we have another show coming up on Thursday remember us at Dvorak.org slash N A

1:09:48 Whatever you do, don't try to propagate the formula to that echo thing. It won't understand it Our formula is this we go out? We hit people in the mouth I Got a tip I got an idea they say ask no agenda what the formula is and then it plays that jingle Oh yeah Well he can do all that stuff so he'll come over the list And it's just it's not really artificial intelligence is not really recognizing what I'm talking about

1:10:27 Of course not. None of this stuff is, it's all bogus Bogative I tell ya! Let's check in on Woodward A massive housequ- Oh jeez he just never stops with that guy Well he goes on forever Yes... I thought that was the peak of the whole event It was pretty boring And Bernstein wasn't much better No No, not at all. Now who's the spook now? Is it Bernstein who is now the spook or is it Woodward? Well just simple observation there, you know he wants to spook always a spook so Woodward is the spook but

1:11:08 I got the impression we had we did not see much of bernstein for the last twenty years and burns also wrote that article in his blog which i'm wondering still up. It was done in nineteen ninety seven were accused all networks are being with the cia and the whole thing is a scam and there's too much to many reporters and all the rest which we talked about on this show, And then all of a sudden, but he keeps saying Woodward come out with these big tomes. These monstrous books that you know they was written and it's like you know these are all I would lots of inside information that you can't really just get and so i think if i said okay i give up

1:11:44 I'll do what you want, uh...I can use the extra money and uh...what do you want me to do? Whatever. Yeah go for it So he's on CNN all the time bitching about Trump with the same arguments He's an orangutan and idiot and all that sort of thing even though he takes it-He's a little more intellectual about it doesn't he You know just call him names No but thats funny! Call him ummm moral midget These are great things to say And yeah Orangutan Orange Very funny The Moral Midget Well, we were talking earlier about during the donation segment about our stance on climate change and of course in the news hot and heavy this the past two weeks has been Bill Nye the anti-constitutionalist guy who thinks he science is God given right by the Constitution. So there were protests big climate protests everywhere over the weekend

1:12:40 If he caught any of that, of course this is because the president says he's considering now pulling out of the Paris Climate Accord. Didn't he already pull out? No no in fact during his speech in Harrisburg he said you know I'm gonna make a very important decision in a couple days here which to me means he's not pulling out entirely. This is how he pulled it out but It was kind of sad for the People's Climate March in Colorado. They were all ready to protest, of course the President and his crazy agenda. It snowed sadly for their anti-climate change, their global warming march I hate it when that happens! Always a winner

1:13:23 Now let's talk about Bill Nye first. Oh actually I hear one of our producers went to... Who did this? Where was this protest? They started their own little climate protest chant. And the cops show up right away, of course! I like that good tribe people. Good one. You know there are a lot of people making fun of Bill Nye Mostly millennials who are just so, I guess you were right the millennials were their biggest fans and now they're all disappointed. Well Snopes had a posting that we should share because Snopes of course is the fact check, the fact base of the interwebs headline Snopes says meme making fun of Bill Nye is true but problematic

1:14:26 What does that even mean? So the meme that's going around you've probably seen is they have a picture of Bill Nye and Dolph Lundgren, the actor who of course famously starred in Rocky. against Sylvester Stallone. And the meme is, that moment you find out that Dolph Lundgren is exponentially more qualified to be called a scientist than Bill Nye is! They have there that Bill Nye has a Bachelor of Science in Mechanical Engineering from Cornell however Dolph Lundgren has a BS and Chemistry from Washington State, BS in Chemical Engineering from Royal Institute Technology Stockholm, a Masters in Chemical Engineering University Sydney and Fulbright Scholarship recipient from MIT

1:15:06 So of course Snopes says, well the meme is largely accurate. Nye did study mechanical engineering at Cornell University where he graduated with a Bachelor of Science degree and Lundgren who may be best known as an action movie star has an impressive educational background The credentials listed in this meme however are slightly inaccurate According to a biography on the actor's old website, Lundgren did receive a master's degree in chemical engineering from the University of Sydney and was the recipient of a Fulbright scholarship at MTV—at MIT. Oops! I have this scholarship from MTV The University of Sydney said in a Facebook post, Lundgren was our only alumnus that we know of who has gone toe to toe with Sylvester Stallone. However, Lundgren did not receive a Bachelor's Science degree in Chemistry from Washington State. The school says on its website that Lundgren spent one year studying chemical engineering there as an exchange student but he didn't graduate so that is the problematic part you see." Oh no! It's problematic yes it's very problematic

1:16:06 And I'd like to see the two of them fight. Well, here it is! That would be great... What did they say here? So what they really find problematic is that Bill Nye is probably, you know... Is the question here if Bill Nye is not qualified to be a scientist? Where Snopes kind of steers it toward, if you read through it. They say well as far as we know there's no Dolph Lundgren standard for science television show hosts so they're taking it as oh he's unqualified to do a science television show That's the angle they're taking on this When will we wake up and these guys are worse than RT

1:16:49 This is a very on anything that's political pretty good at internet hoaxes i'll give him that you have an internet hoax starts up they usually can find it and track down the user get ticket to its source do a good job are they used to i think this thing has become completely politicized. And now it's almost as wiki leaks the same way about climate change, is a known fact you can try to go into some of these pages that talk about climate change in Which again is part of the giant propaganda scheme which we have plenty of listeners that are subject to it and we found out today in today's donation segment. You know still thinking about carbon dioxide as you know, polluting. Well here is the big problem I have with all this with Bill Nye specifically and its the same problem I had with Albert Gore

1:17:37 Bill Nye is not just in this for the Netflix dollars, and I'm pretty sure he's doing okay. But this guy is an actor Sadly, I believe he's doing anything you can to make money because there are no residuals to speak of from a show in the 90s No, I think after the show in the 90s he was scrambling because he liked doing this show. He's a stand-up comic He's not gonna make any money from that cuz he's not that funny And so he's scrambling and he managed to, I think he has done a great job of self-promotion for a guy that is really washed up. Well the problem i have here is the following promotion this is uh... video that he's done on an outfit called Raton or Raton A R A I think it was RAYR or RAYTO RATON SOLAR We can convert sunlight into electricity with a couple of thin silicon wafers in a sandwich

1:18:36 a very thin one. For decades, to get a thin piece of pure silicon we had to saw it off a thick piece of pure silicon The saw turns a lot of that silicon into dust This process is fine for making integrated circuit chips for computers or smartphones because the amount of silicon used is so small But for manufacturing big solar panels out in the wide open spaces It costs a lot to waste a lot of pure silicon The gang at Raytan Solar has come up with a way to chip off an extraordinarily thin... There's your first clue by the way, when he says the gang at Raytan Solar. That's your first clue something is going on with this An extraordinarily thin piece of pure silicon not with a saw but with a subatomic particle accelerator! Wooo! An atom smasher

1:19:27 It doesn't smash atoms as such. It smashes protons into the atoms of a chunk of silicon Technicians can control the depth to which these particles penetrate with precision, so they can place the particles perfectly. Once the particles are perfectly in place, Rayton gives them a nudge using a little bit of heat of just the right magnitude and a perfect super thin slice of pure silicon is set free! A little bit of pure silicon goes a long way So this is, there's a second part that I'm going to play in a moment. This is clearly produced in my mind by the same people who produces television shows, same type of animation graphics editing etc and the idea behind this Rayton Solar is that they have a particle accelerator which they use to slice off wafers of silicon

1:20:17 which are much thinner than any other process and he claims that it's about a 10 to 1 savings. Therefore they use conventional processes to create solar panels but they're doing it at a tenth of the cost of raw materials in silicon, and at the end of video we get this... We stand on the cusp of new era in which paradigm for energy is changing The last similar moment history was over 100 years ago when oil became main energy source replacing coal An opportunity to back a disruptive solar technology represents... Did you hear what he said? Play it again. ...became the new main energy source replacing coal. An opportunity to back a disruptive solar technology... Did you hear? An opportunity to back a disruptive solar technology, yes this is the wind-up and pitch ladies and gentlemen. Oh this is a sales pitch! New main energy source replacing coal

1:21:15 An opportunity to back a disruptive solar technology represents a path to enabling change, to a renewable future and an investment with very bright economic prospects. Join us as we begin the Solar Age! Mr Bill Nye has five million dollars worth of shares in this crowdfunding operation He's shilling for his own pocketbook in his own companies Yeah this is a law has been going on with the couple companies brewery small breweries like use this. Is there some law that allows you to sell shares directly yes it's a crowdfunding system but it gets more than crowd i understand what it is cuz i understand okay,

1:22:04 But it's a specific type of filing, so you can actually sell shares directly to people and you have particular type of filing for that. This only came into effect I think maybe four or five years ago. So it's crowdfunding where you're selling shares and you're not necessarily beholden to all the same SEC-type regulations of publicly listed company There's a lot of regulations for venture capital backed companies who really push for this law because this is the, or this rule change. This is what the seed funding guys like to do

1:22:42 for the seed round. And so they get to keep a lot more, they don't have to disclose all these things, have disclosed some things. So it's a change in the law to rip investors off basically. Yeah well that's the idea now let's just put the main thing out there which is that if you think that your little solar power company here in United States is going to compete with the Chinese who took over the business and broke everybody good luck! And I'm looking at how much you say he has a couple million, you think? He has five million dollars worth of shares. It's disclosed on the website. Well, he must have the most because the crowdfunding page for Raytheon Solar Yeah Has been funded at 2.8 million. It's closed now. The goal was 1.8 and it got to 2.8. So he is probably a majority shareholder. Well, he has a piece of the float they don't have to

1:23:35 They don't have to put the whole float out to the people. Well, he probably has different kinds of shares I'm sure that... Yes, of course he does! Of course he does. He'll make out like a banner when one... No, not necessarily. If one investor buys this bull crap and says hey you know good job everybody on that seed funding we'll come in now and give you a valuation of 60 million dollars That would be kind of typical maybe 50... 60 billion? No it will start with million then It's not gonna.. This is not flying I think you were very optimistic and i think it's like he's got the starry eyes on this too because he's been a scientist for so long and wants to be a billionaire. He wants big money in all of this great stuff

1:24:15 You know he's been I bet everyone's making money around me. I know all these guys that I mean Oh, there's all these guys making billions are making billions But there's a room and I'm not making anything so he's come up joined forces with these guys another lark Yeah Cuz they tried to get in with Albert and the boys And I said no no you can't be a part of our fun. He would have lost his ass on that too I Mean Alberts only guy who's made out but all this all this climate change fear-mongering is having an actual very real effect on people people are becoming their mental hygiene is at such a low level, they're becoming ill very analogous to people who are addicted to alcohol or drugs and you know by trying like a 12-step program. In fact there is a twelve step program that exists and I have an NPR report about it

1:25:05 that is now being rolled out around the country of the United States of Gitmo Nation for people who have echo grieving. And it's a real thing, it's a real issue and here's a report. A growing body of research shows climate change is bad not just for the planet but for our mental health People who've lived through weather disasters are more prone to depression, suicide and post-traumatic stress. Psychologists see more subtle effects too – just thinking about the impact of a shifting climate can make you feel anxious and overwhelmed." This group of strangers started coming together last year. They range from millennials to grandparents. Dick Meyer used to be skeptical about climate change

1:25:47 As the group sits in a circle in the living room, he tells why the problem made him emotional. And I think that it came to the conclusion that was the loss of future The future they had lived knowing was going to be there all of sudden is gone And that is really disorienting. At some point you come to a conclusion, if you're paying attention I think where you just say whoa this is serious and then you suffer for awhile... You grieve." Laura Schmidt was also struggling when the idea for this group first came her she was an undergrad then studying species extinction in melting ice caps The human impacts of all that made her feel heart sick and powerless

1:26:30 Then Schmidt remembered the 12 steps that self-help groups use for problems like drugs and overdrinking. I have been an avid participant in an Al-Anon group, adult children of alcoholics, and I realized that that group can be coopted. Schmid wrote her own steps—nine of them. The first is the standard admit there's a problem It's a lot about understanding your power and what you're capable of, but also your limitations as a single human being on this planet. Yes people are anxious we have climate anxiety all over the place. Lisa Van Susteren is a Washington DC psychiatrist and climate activist Every single day we are told about what disasters are just around the corner

1:27:16 And this is being processed whether we know it consciously or not. In Utah, Ellie Harbertson says she comes to these meetings to mourn the past and reimagine her kids' future We don't do chit-chat. We go right to like what's on your heart? I cry every week which is no big thing for me. I'm a huge crier but still feeling like I can do that with almost complete strangers is amazing I'm so happy for the people who listen to this program, so they don't have this horrible affliction. Clip of the day! Oh thank you so much... I felt that might be possible. Very disturbing clip. Yes they're affected really affected by this

1:28:06 And now I look at some friends of mine. Are any of us surprised? No, this is what happens when you do this stuff. It's abusive towards people! How are the mudflats doing? They're still there. Oh man... has not done anything. There was a nice article in this weekend's paper about how they think that the ocean is going to go up 10 feet next year! Pretty soon, any minute 10 feet and i'm looking at what a minute and i will remind his new listeners that i do have the geologic surveys map from the eighteen hundreds showing exact same mud flats that i can see out my window it hasn't gone up an inch

1:28:52 And my favorite thing, I should remind people about this too. We didn't really play it up that much but there was some events they had one of these climate change meetings and they're talking about well how come the Pacific hasn't really moved you know we haven't seen any real evidence? I mean there's been erosion yeah you get a lot of erosion and then a house falls in the water and that's the oh its climate change but its called erosion But how come they there was really no measurable height change and they came up with this cockamamie story that Australia is somehow a giant sponge I don't remember the sponge part. Yeah, it's like a sponge and under Australia they're sucking all this extra water, sucking in soot. Sucking in soot baby! Unbelievable! These models don't work these are computer models Computer models are notoriously poorly done there is always a variable you leave out There something wrong with all of them that should never be relied on No But no its okay It is so bad

1:29:57 You know, we were talking about crowdfunding. I think there could be a new segment on the show which i'd like to kick off today with an example and if we get a jingle and people dig it then we can turn into a segment uh... I've noticed of course that lot of this has to do with my work within the noagendasocial dot com the mastodon open source federated social network of gooeyness OpenSore I am seeing so many of, and i'll just call them that all of these people who do this are social justice warriors. I bump into them because I am being accused of being a consistent abuser of other people and our domain there is being blocked by some federated instances

1:30:51 Because they feel that you know, but I'm an abuser and I haven't even been on the thing for like three days. What have you done? I don't know but the admin is abusive so they block the whole... What have you done?! Nothing! I don't know what they're talking about no one's asked me I've never seen these people on a network before But now I see screenshots of them talking about me as I'm consistent abuser It's not true. I've done nothing So all of these social justice warriors who go complaining to their administrators to block no agenda social have crowdfunding. Little GoFundMes or... Oh, they get little things just to put up a server? No! Not for servers, for their lives John This is not so much about the Mastodon social network this is about these social justice warriors on the system

1:31:48 And we get a unique look into their lives as all of them in their little profile bio have a link. You're talking about people that are looking for some extra cash through GoFundMe and... Yeah, not for some extra cash, John. This is their lifestyle. Kincup.com? This is their lifestyle! Let me give you an example. Okay. This is from Delz Doodles And she's one of these people who has called me a serial abuser and I just felt, well look she has a GoFundMe campaign. Let's see what it says. Jacko... Have you called her out? No! You gotta get some examples of this abuse if they're gonna accuse you like this. But as I said, apparently me asking what is going on it's considered abuse. Oh?!

1:32:38 Yes, I said well what's going on? And they're not aware. Oh and then they block me and then I go to another... I log in somewhere else say you blocked me but I want know what the abuse is. They blocked me again and now that's being called the abuse But this happened three weeks ago. I mean, I don't know why anyway so all of these kids have little crowdfunding things So here is one of these millennial. I'm assuming her gender Jacko quit work last August when we had an advanced royalty payment through from my book which gave us enough money to live off of for five months. Time jacko planned to spend working on developing his indie game studio, to make video games full-time

1:31:48 And we get a unique look into their lives as all of them in their little profile bio have a link. You're talking about people that are looking for some extra cash through GoFundMe and... Yeah, not for some extra cash, John. This is their lifestyle. Kincup.com? This is their lifestyle! Let me give you an example. Okay. This is from Delz Doodles And she's one of these people who has called me a serial abuser and I just felt, well look she has a GoFundMe campaign. Let's see what it says. Jacko... Have you called her out? No! You gotta get some examples of this abuse if they're gonna accuse you like this. But as I said, apparently me asking what is going on it's considered abuse. Oh?!

1:32:38 Yes, I said well what's going on? And they're not aware. Oh and then they block me and then I go to another... I log in somewhere else say you blocked me but I want know what the abuse is. They blocked me again and now that's being called the abuse But this happened three weeks ago. I mean, I don't know why anyway so all of these kids have little crowdfunding things So here is one of these millennial. I'm assuming her gender Jacko quit work last August when we had an advanced royalty payment through from my book which gave us enough money to live off of for five months. Time jacko planned to spend working on developing his indie game studio, to make video games full-time

1:33:23 Unfortunately, at the same time he became ill. When I eventually managed to convince him to get checked out, he was at the point of fainting when he stood up. Turns out that he had a bleeding stomach ulcer and his blood count had dropped significantly! The doctor warned him to get a transfusion immediately but he declined and went for taking strong iron supplements instead." It's stopped bleeding now but anyone who has had Anemia knows how long it takes to recover from even a little bit of anemia and his was terrible. His blood levels are climbing but he hasn't had the energy needed to work full-time so we're behind on our plans! He started freelancing for the company he left last year on a part time basis, but were still struggling I've put this off as long as i can But we really need help Jacko still cant work fast enough on his game projects To get stuff out there for sale to support us

1:34:12 We're close to being okay, but when you're poor the world works against you. Missed payments mean more bank fees bouncing fees people nagging you for money etc Our car is close to being paid off and if we can clear that monthly payment every month will be in much more stable place financially There's only five more payments to go on it But the extra monthly payment is just tipping us over the limit every month on our reduced income so we can clear that and not have to make that payment every month, it'd be a huge help. I hate asking! I know so many people who are struggling right now and i wish we were in the position where we could help and not ask for it but such is life if you can help us there are no words for how grateful we would be So these losers think that their future is in indie game companies and writing haikus on Patreon this is their business model We've identified this...

1:35:08 Kids who think that this is how life works. Well, we're you know just ask for help First of all I'm gonna excoriate you For being so mean I can see why they don't like you Because maybe this is the new business model Maybe this IS the future You dont know that? I do! This what im identifying They're creating this future of loserdom. They will have no life, no future. Indie game company! Haiku writer? Are you kidding me?! Oh we can't get his indie game company off the ground... How about I get something as a job? A real job You know it's way beneath them Where are they located first of all these two Doesn't say here. That makes a huge difference

1:36:05 And how do we know that any of this is true? Is it possible you could dream become a fictitious character doing this? Of course, of course. You could but I don't think so. I think...you saw the picture and the kids in UT they don't even put up Patreons anymore just put signs in their windows saying We're broke here give us money to our PayPal and there's a PayPal address and they put on their window Yes, I keep forgetting to put that in the newsletter but i gotta put that in. Yeah. Yes why cut out the middle man? I don't know I don't know, if it's...I mean, I don't like the fact that these are the same people that are blocking you for being abusive when you really don't anything. Well let me... I've seen your toots there and who cares? They're not a big deal. Listen to this! You're not shaking your fist. No listen to this. I mean mine are more abusive than yours. Listen to this so i now have in my possession the most current mastodon block list circulating amongst system administrators and uh...so there is number of domains

1:37:15 Most of them are silenced, which means they'll never show up in the Fed. If you're following someone on a different server you can still follow them but you'll never show up anywhere in the federated timeline I don't give a crap. All of this to me is just a social experiment anyway, but i'd like to give you the reasons that these particular domains... There's a list with reasons? Yes sir! Oh yeah oh You gotta send me a copy that I can put in the newsletter Okay shall I read you a few choice ones? Yeah especially if ours is on there Well we have the best entry Social.au2pub.net, severity silenced media allowed yes reason it's a free speech zone my favorite so we need to silence these people because there is a free speech zone over there We don't want to hear what they have to say Is this crazy? I'm understanding it okay then we have unsafe dot space reason it is an unsafe space makes nothing but sense

1:38:23 Then we have, here we go. Here's us. You ready for this? Noagendasocial.com Silenced So everyone on this who has this list will just silence them and the big one Mastodon Social they've silenced us What do you think the reason is for our being on this list? Douchebags Close Get ready for it Alt-right KKK Nazi quadroons That's us. Yes, we are categorized... I think that's actionable! ...as alt-right KKK not...I don't know what a quadroon? What is a quadroon? Well, a quadroon maybe like an octoroon where we're one fourth black Let me consult the book of knowledge but i don't think they mean that Quadroon definition Where's the definition? Definition Okay, quadroon here we go. Quadroon We always like to take Merriam Webster Here we go

1:39:30 Merriam-Webster says a person of one quarter black ancestry fuck you're right John so we're one court, right? We're one quarter black and but we're Nazis in KKK's That's what that's what it says. And when you say actionable, what do you mean and we can sue somebody over this Yes, that's what I mean. That would be fun wouldn't it yeah, we'd be guaranteed to be blocked everywhere There are bunch of lawyers over there. No, I don't care lawyers block side Reason bunch of lawyers I just think alt-right, KKK Nazi quadroons... and I consider us to be a lot of things. And by the way the term these days the kids are using is not free speech zone it's freeze peach zone ha ha ha as in frozen peach freeze peach zone but that kind of blew me away well the quadrant thing i think is a compliment yes we're definitely a quarter black

1:40:33 For sure. Well that's very disturbing. You want to stay with some more disturbing millennial stuff? I have some more stuff we can talk about. Well, yes! Okay let us talk about... here we go We have, ooh okay this is just a little entremont. This is something in your neck of the woods and it's actually too bad you don't actually have this UC Davis so that's part of the California system. Zephyr stops in Davis by the way on their way to the train museum Well they're under severe attack well attack I would say just like remember when the HPV

1:41:23 vaccine came out, which of course we know is really only handles three of the 20 some strains. Yeah that's a scam and it's overpriced because everything is bad. It's a huge overpriced scam remember they were hanging promotional bags on the doors at dorm rooms remember this? No Just to promote it yeah well we had a clip about that several years ago They were doing anything just promoting promoting promoting promoting We did a lot of work dude I think this is probably Dude! This goes back 2006 probably We were talking about this stuff when it was just starting up. So UC Davis is now under attack or not attacked, they made a deal apparently with plan B and plan b is the morning after pill so if you have an accident or some kind of mistake or worse which we'll talk about in a minute

1:42:11 a new term to learn, then you're in good luck. You have good fortune if you're at UC Davis. This now famous vending machine is located here at the Activities and Rec Center. This is where students work out morning and night and it's now getting all the buzz for the morning after pill. In this quiet UC Davis study lounge back in the corner just past those cups of coffee you'll find contraception for sale in a vending machine Yay! Look closely. The machine isn't just stocked with condoms, tampons and pregnancy tests it's selling the morning after pill up top the A-row will dispense the plan B pill for 30 bucks a box For students here an out of the box idea known as the wellness to go machine drawing more praise than criticism It's easier to take a plan B then have tell your parents that you're pregnant it's like useful so that you don't have to go to pharmacy People doubt this project

1:43:00 That's exactly why this economics major turned his focus to public health, spending close to two years trying to bring the vending machine here. There was an incident where my friends went to the one pharmacy that's open 24 7 in town on a Friday night and they were all emergency contraceptive. Partik Singh is suddenly very popular on the UC Davis campus and others across the country taking calls from students everywhere asking him to help bring the wellness machine to their schools. I want to see this in every college campus ambitious plans for plan B on campus. Now the backup pill in the back of this study hall even has moms weighing in. It encourages responsibility, I mean if you mess up waiting to see if you get pregnant and have an abortion. I love that it encourages responsibilities yeah oh yeah that's how kids think for sure. The logic is there but okay well she's like all blank so what's the controversy? Seems like a good idea to me

1:43:52 I thought there's no controversy. I thought that the way the Millennials were describing it as, you know hey it's great you don't have to tell your parents you're pregnant and a lot of things like this is not... I don't think that's a Millennial phenomenon. I think that would be the same with any age group. Well they're targeting the college kids but at the same time a new meme is being launched because of course we all hate men and there is now and this comes from some Actual research, what is SSRN? Who are those jabronis. It's from the Columbia Journal of Gender and Law we have a new term rape adjacent which is the non-consensual condom removal and this is now being played as a thing that men are removing the condom during sex before ejaculation in a non consensual manner

1:44:48 I've not heard of this, but man now we're really into a whole new ball game. I can see that becoming a thing that they would give it specific name to and use as another excuse to sue some poor schlub? Yeah well up the rape culture and victimization yeah And how do you do that without the female partner noticing? I have no standing in that area so i don't know Well I'm just asking think about logistics here You're going at it, ba-ba-da-bob-a-dababa. And then you... What do you do? You pull out and take the thing out and swirl around your head and throw it against the wall and then go back in? I just don't see how you can do that without... It's just there is something about it doesn't make sense personally. But you'll see it's up and coming now this is something. It's trending. Yeah, it's trending we'll see how far it gets

1:45:50 On the, let me see. How did I come up with this one on the Instagram? There was something about Instagram that was... What was it? I have this clip from the CEO because I was reading something about Instagram And now I don't know exactly what it was, but then I caught this... Thanks for all the detailed information. Yeah that means.. Oh no! I got it, I know why. The reason why is the FTC is up in arms about undeclared endorsements. Oh yeah they should have just been going on forever But I want to get to that in a minute

1:46:28 Because while I was researching the story for a specific reason, the CEO...I didn't even know it was a woman. Marnie Levin she is the CEO of Instagram she goes out of her way during some women's conference labeled as such some women's conference about how they're really working with their audience, to really help them. Now I consider all social media certainly with pictures to be very destructive it's horrible because what you're doing is putting your life out there, you are faking it and putting in filters just look how groovy my life is when usually most people are pretty depressed and sad that's why they do this

1:47:10 And there's lots of studies, there is moral self-licensing. There is virtue signaling. There are all kinds of reasons that people are a part of this and it is being encouraged in, I find a very disingenuous way. It's something that's really important to me as COO of Instagram Oh she's COO sorry But it's also really important to me as a mother like as a woman like I really think about this a lot so one thing we did just a few weeks ago was we offered a new tool which is around comment filtering and what this does is allows you to filter out words you might not want to see in the comments

1:47:46 Oh my, we can't get triggered by words we might see in the comments. And that creates a much more positive experience for the person who is actually telling their story and what we want people to do is feel safe. Just feel like they can express themselves. Express myself! Because when they feel safe and when they express themselves... They like advertising more. They put their story out there the reactions they get are overwhelmingly positive. And that is the way that they can find community... Stop for a second, actually what you just said casually there I'm wondering if that may..I don't know whether doing it overtly but is possible

1:48:27 When you do advertising, you always want to get somebody in the right frame of mind. Bill Ziff had this whole thesis that's why we never take it before hand. Oh totally! Humor is a great example. Get someone laughing and give them any message at that moment. Well you start saying yes as another one but if you get somebody in sort of mood that because they're so non-threatening, everything's so non-threatening because it has been filtered out. You're giving yourself out there on your own and you get nothing but love back. Love comes in the form of buy a Coke, buy a Pepsi and that's what Coke and Pepsi do. They sell something many times at least in today's era they sell their product as a monument to love I mean you drink a Pepsi and feel better about yourself. That's interesting and is sick

1:49:10 So say well wait until you hear how far they're going with this and I agree with you. I mean these guys their commercial She's the COO she's you know, she would almost call nuts and bolts chief revenue officer You know do whatever you want? She's about making sure the nuts and bolts work in the money is coming in and the expenses are low That's what you do as a CEO so yeah, I'm totally thing that's about advertising The actions they get are overwhelmingly positive and that is the way that they can find communities of support. Teens are really good about telling their stories really authentically. You see them with these really positive messages, one woman who I love is this young woman named Gigi Crouch whose account is Skolarina she has scoliosis but she's a ballerina and so her message is that if you have passion and dream you can overcome adversity She posts these photos of doing these complicated beautiful poses When she decided that she was going to stop dancing she also post on Instagram

1:50:09 And the overwhelming support that she got is what she said helped her feel comfortable with her decision to go to college and stop dancing. So, that's an incredible thing. We also just recently launched a campaign around it's called hashtag perfectly me. Right? A number of teens talked about how they have taken what would be perceived as weakness and turned into strength and accepted themselves body positivity. So those are the kinds of things that we've really tried to do is to teach people great behavior. Oh, we want to teach people great behavior? Hold on that's there you go! Those are the kinds of things that we've really tried to do is to teach

1:50:52 people, you know great behavior create a safe and welcoming community and really encourage people to tell their stories so that they can find those communities of support. Oh! Communities of support this is very destructive because these children will get out in the real world where people are assholes And they're going to laugh at you scoff at you You're going to be discriminated against you will not get chosen because of your affliction or whatever your issue is everybody has negative body positivity issues and you're really learning how to trick yourself trick yourself into feeling good because people you're collecting likes, oh you look amazing girl. Oh my god I love your haircut! It's destructive these children will all grow up in Indiana these children will all easy and Indian these children will all grow up with horrible

1:51:41 with thinking that everything's gonna be great and they have all the support. Well this is that same problem with the self-affirmation movement, and the self esteem is taught in schools it's all part of the same system but now just a most modern version And its completely commercialized for selling crap to the children Yeah well thats the key But here what cool about it These people feel real good about themselves maybe they'll buy this stupid couch So was only two weeks ago that the Federal Trade Commission, yes. Federal Trade Commission I think. The FTC they released an important statement it was April 19th. Federal Trade Commission reminds influencers and brands to clearly disclose relationship now this has been going on for a long time but after reviewing numerous Instagram posts by celebrities athletes and other influencers read Kardashians

1:52:37 The Federal Trade Commission staff recently sent out more than 90 letters reminding influencers and marketers that influencers should clearly and conspicuously disclose their relationship to brands when promoting or endorsing products through social media. Now there's a couple of interesting reasons for this one, when you read through some of the examples PewDiePie had a huge endorsement deal with Warner Brothers And the reason why that's problematic is because guess who's not getting a piece of that money? Instagram. So if you think for one minute that all of this removal of advertising, of YouTube money is only about not being brand safe... No! It's because they can't control your money flow. They need to have a part of that

1:53:27 I think the FTC is probably somewhat complicit but they have a lot of rules like you can't just do a hash. Totally complicit, yeah i would like to find out the lobbyist action that was going on now that you mentioned it i don't think they're somewhat complicit i think part of some grand scheme right this is a this is a dude to take But then again if you're Twitter and you have a bunch of, and your trying to make money. Instagram. You're providing free service. People can use twitter for nothing. Instagram this is about instagram Yeah I know i'm saying. There's a reason. It's the same model in terms of like the FTC being about this and it's the same both companies wanna make money but i'm using twitter cuz i don't use instagram. But is the same thing to you know im on twitter and somebody made a coca cola made a deal with me i mean as i dont have a hundred thousand got five million ten million people i'm britney spears, and they're all the sudden that i'm promoting pepsi over coke because if pepsis giving me a cash payout

1:54:25 Well, this is the... there's no money going to Twitter for this. Okay I'm just gonna keep it with you- So why does FTC give a crap? Because they're complicit! You're right and they sent the letter to 90 celebretti so they were.. They knew exactly who was doing what but this folds into something very cool that happened this past weekend which was promoted on Instagram by amongst others Kendall Jenner and she was paid for it And this is The Fire Festival. I'm sure you read something about this Yeah, it's hilarious. So this is the you know this bunch of douchebags and that was all promoted by models who were paid to do it on Instagram and this if you haven't I'm sure you heard about it but you know the whole festival fell apart and was a disaster and was kind of just right because with all these

1:55:13 Wannabes and douchebags who saved up their money to go this and if they had only done like DJs or something now They had to do concert with you know get blink 182. Hello 1919 12 Who the hell wants those guys? You're right. Actually, DJs would be a much... and people would go for that. Of course they would! I've seen it you can see look up some of these DJ's like there are number of very famous ones. I know most of them. The Dutch just hit images and you'll see like 100 000 people rocking out to some guy upon a big podium doing his thing. It's unbelievable

1:55:56 So, well I was going to say that it's...I find it interesting to watch how these things kind of intersect. Because the Jenners or the Kardashians were people who received these letters and who knows why this concert failed? But for sure, Instagram was not getting a piece of it. So I'm not saying Instagram went out and- Well the concert failed there was a lot of articles written about the concert failed because they didn't deliver on anything. They couldn't get people over there and it was just a ridiculous situation. And then the bands were bailing out No one's gonna play and there was no cabanas shoddy tents that people were put in There is no food well Of course because social media phenomenon The word got out instantly Well here's what I like

1:56:41 This told me exactly what was going on. So this was organized by Ja Rule and his buddy there, one of those douchebags name is some 25 year old and here in this little bit in Rolling Stone as he was interviewed about this I Was a computer programmer and after computers the two things that love most are the ocean for some reason rap music Yeah right? So these three hobbies of mine somehow led me to meeting with my partner Ja Rule somehow Okay, you don't have a story behind that douche Together we became friends and business partners. And here's the part that told me this guy is an ass For us it was always a battle of pushing the limits Once we got flying lessons together, We got on these really bad 40-year old planes and flew from New York to The Bahamas not really knowing The Bahamas very well... We ran out of gas and landed in the Exumas and both of us immediately fell in love So if you are an aviator and your licensed and you run out of gass as you call it fuel

1:57:36 you did not do your flight planning. So no wonder this whole thing fell apart, fractal? Yeah! You don't plan. Fractal. Well there's a couple other things about that event which I would because people are all over it on the tweets and those toots and the disses of that going oh any douchebag any dork has spent $12,000 dollars to become part...I doubt they got anybody's money No i think they got some money They got some money they probably got a few the low end monies but i know buddies people that have the kind of my just to throw away yeah there are some dummies no money this was actually much worse because the way i see it.

1:58:21 There were no actual rich kids of Instagram there because they would fly in on their own jet, they have their own stuff ready to go. They would never put up for just some tent or anything I know how these kids operate and they would never get on the chartered flight which was billed as a private airplane it was just a chartered airplane They didn't, this was wannabes. This is people who were duped by Kendall Jenner amongst others on Instagram to come into this great, you know, douchebag thing lit have the best Instagram pics ever so you are have no FOMO and you're all a part of the groovy thing and that I think this is a tipping point here as a tipping point. And what we'll say, I will agree with your first part of your commentary and I disagree with the tipping point part

1:59:11 Well, I think we're on the tipping point of some kind of huge economic thing. And well... We're going to have an economic collapse in this next few quarters but I don't think it really has much do with these clowns this was just a joke! I love the fact that the sneaky advertising is falling apart and you and this is what your saying? I think it will affect Alphabet and their numbers long-term because they can't, business-wise they can't have the big PewDiePie's anymore to advertise on. Not so much apparently now because it is not safe for brands is because he has all these side deals that are not getting a part of! So either they keep him away for good and they suffer or you watch there will be new terms, there will be a whole bureau thats going to arrange this for these kids... You watch something afoot and its big

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2:09:28 I mean, when we show for products we show for products because we use them and like them. We're not getting paid you know? And we've gotten into debates with some of our producers over this. Well yeah... I think interesting is that whenever we do that the first thing people always say is, oh native advertising! That's the first thing they always say and- They wouldn't even know about native advertising if it wasn't for us educating them about it in great detail Exactly Well, there's a clip I wanted to play. This is because the meme cropped up and it stems from this particular clip. This actually ran as a teaser but this was the Trump The Job Is Hard clip and this is John Dickinson or Dickerson? Dickerson or Dickinson, confusing the two because I know a guy named John Dickinson anyway so

2:10:27 This is the cbs face the nation and we have this question of trump and trump casually says i know this job harder than i thought. And he did it really well heated, He talks about other people that this is apparently a common problem with anyone who becomes president for the first time the job is hard i remember george bush going jobs are hard it's really hard he goes on and on about it, obama's quoted as saying the same thing everybody does i think there's maybe even nobody is not bitched about the job. But the way the internet handled it, oh what an idiot! He didn't know the job was hard. And there's all over the Rob Reiners and all of us are like, Oh what a moron! Now John let's have a listen to what the president said yesterday in an interview with Reuters it's getting a lot of attention I loved my previous life I had so many things going

2:11:23 I actually, this is more work than in my previous life. It's supposed to be such a powerful job and President Trump has faced all of that. And there is, of course the fast pace of incoming events which can make it feel out-of-control. It sometimes even encourages the same kind of bluntness that the president showed in his remarks John Kennedy once said I wish had spent less time trying to get to be president and more time learning how to be president not a job to be underestimated John Dickerson thanks John yes this was like

2:12:06 A casual thing to say is an honest thing to say, being sincere. And he gets excoriated by all these...by the Dimension B group! What a moron what did you think? I just found it very annoying Oh yeah oh yeah well there was actually some point of light there during Bill Maher's show on Friday And of course Bill Maher is in an interesting position where he is a total dimension A person, I'd mention B person but he has dimension A tendencies.

2:12:45 And mainly because I think he probably boned Ann Coulter in college. Didn't they go to the same school? I would, I've been watching this guy for years and if he doesn't...if he hasn't boned her He's definitely had a crush on her for at least five years So he went off on UC Berkeley's treatment of Ann Coulter and have it clip for you An issue that's always near and dear to my heart, the First Amendment. Because Ann Coulter ran a little into a little problem this week I know we don't like Ann Coulters views You do! I like her as a person, I never agreed with one thing she ever said

2:12:06 A casual thing to say is an honest thing to say, being sincere. And he gets excoriated by all these...by the Dimension B group! What a moron what did you think? I just found it very annoying Oh yeah oh yeah well there was actually some point of light there during Bill Maher's show on Friday And of course Bill Maher is in an interesting position where he is a total dimension A person, I'd mention B person but he has dimension A tendencies.

2:12:45 And mainly because I think he probably boned Ann Coulter in college. Didn't they go to the same school? I would, I've been watching this guy for years and if he doesn't...if he hasn't boned her He's definitely had a crush on her for at least five years So he went off on UC Berkeley's treatment of Ann Coulter and have it clip for you An issue that's always near and dear to my heart, the First Amendment. Because Ann Coulter ran a little into a little problem this week I know we don't like Ann Coulters views You do! I like her as a person, I never agreed with one thing she ever said

2:13:22 That's different. Okay, but she was I was the speaker at Berkeley a couple of years ago and they disinvited me and then they got their act together and I wound up doing it And apparently that's what's gonna happen with her I think But Berkeley you know used to be the cradle of free speech and now it's just the cradle for fucking babies And I feel like this goes on all over the country, on campuses. They invite someone to speak who's not exactly what liberals want to hear and they want to shut her down...I feel like this is the liberal version of book burning and it has got to stop Howard Dean tweeted today about this hate speech is not protected by the first amendment

2:14:01 Yes, it is. Threats are not protected by the First Amendment This is why Supreme Court said the Nazis could march in Skokie They're a hateful bunch But that's what the First Amendment means It doesn't mean just shut up and agree with me I can't believe you have to remind liberals of this I can't believe it either It's a shame because liberals are creating a fantasy land on college campuses that does not exist in the real world. In the real world, there are no safe spaces where you can go and no one will offend you! Life is offensive! Well there ya'go that must have been very hurtful for a lot of people to hear. The thing that got me about that little commentary which I thought was from the Friday before... Could be could be then i'm wrong uh...

2:14:48 Howard Dean says that no is not insane and I'd like to hear him say that by he tweeted that oh, he tweeted Yeah But it leads into some very disturbing news from Candinavia where hate speech is about to be codified as a criminal offense. Yes, well this has been going on for awhile it's been leading up to this... Yeah they have the C-136 or whatever it's called that some some hate speech bill and I have here the professor again Jordan Peterson who refuses to call or says hey you know I'm not going to let my free speech be encroached by

2:15:30 Being required to use pronouns. I have not used my entire life And I don't agree with him either. So he was on, what's the guys name? Steve Pilker, I forget that Canadian show. I subscribed to the YouTube version is pretty good and so they have on this Peterson which a lot of our producers certainly the Canadians like a lot and there's a trans woman male-to-female trans who... He actually says he would call her she she looks like a she but it's not a big deal no But then there's another professor who pipes up that he's in studio with Peterson and he's at the same university. And just have a little listen to this because they're at University of Toronto, yes? And I'm telling you, Canada, Navea, you gotta nip this in the bud

2:16:18 Because it won't yeah, I don't think so either. They won't they can't do it It's very very worrying for what you're going through up there and my thoughts and prayers are with you love in light well I don't understand what the claim that there's no such thing as biological sex means And I certainly think it's let's call it an error to suggest that there's some sort of scientific consensus about that I mean, there's biological differences between males and females in animals and human beings at every level of analysis. Okay, I'm jumping in here. What about the notion he put forward at the end there that if you do not refer to people with a pronoun that they prefer to be referred to... That is a form according to the Human Rights Commission of discrimination? It's not just a form of discrimination it's a form of hate speech! That's why I made the video. I said we were in danger of placing

2:17:07 the refusal to use certain kinds of language into the same category as Holocaust denial and suggested that maybe that wasn't such a good idea, especially since there's plenty of debate to be had about gender issues in our society which I also think are also in danger of becoming illegal and quite rapidly. So it isn't clear to me how long we'll be able to have the talk that we're having right now. Because I don't agree with why Dr. Peterson has been asked to stop abusing students on campus. To stop doing what? Abusing students and other members of our learning community who do deserve respect, and do deserve to be able to work and learn and contribute to society in a

2:17:47 place where if they are physically assaulted, if they are... The assault so far came from the social justice warriors who were at this free speech rally and almost 2 million people have watched them so far. This is not accurate! Well you can look at videos yourself People have been making complaints about your behavior Yes I understand that And so we're seeing a greater opportunity for social justice happening that many people won't understand. Nick, can I be clear on something? You've accused him of abusing students by not using the pronouns they want to be addressed by That's how i see it absolutely That is tantamount to abuse in your view Absolutely Many many global documents, many organizations How about violence? Is it tantamount to violence? Yes! How about hate speech? Is it tantamount to hate speech? Of course its hate speech to tell someone you won't refer them as

2:18:34 in a way that they, uh...that recognizes their humanity and dignity. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Poor Canada That is well that discussion is going on around here too right but they're actually caught the same guy you know characters he's more of a universal type he's not really any sort of person that you can it's not a guy that's causing trouble in say universal type. Yes yes yeah I agree. He's his colleague though Well, the guy should have... you know. You've heard my opinion about this and I don't consider any... For one thing do you really have to before even having a conversation with somebody or say anything or chime in? Do you have to know somebody's pronoun? That's the deal yeah otherwise your violating their human rights. Yeah. And dignity! Their human rights and dignity. As far as i'm concerned they don't have any dignity

2:19:37 Yeah, let's check in with Woodward. We heard about document destruction and he still at it yeah guys long-winded Yeah, this is a problem I don't know what how to address it perfectly because It is addressable and it hasn't been dealt with in certain situations. I've heard about you being successful Ohio State the president there seems to have done something proper right but for the most part people are cowed by these people because they just can't tell him to You know, can anyone just say hey buddy you're just full of crap? No. Oh no you definitely can't say that! Why?! I get fired... Well we can't get you can't get fired but anyone else can get fired easily Yeah i mean we're in an awkward position the two of us We are Because we could say that the guy's full of crap and we don't have to worry about losing our advertisers And by the way should be I keep mentioning this on this show and I'm going to keep mentioning it

2:20:39 At least five times in this show he would have been fired. Oh yeah, easily. Easily! Let me see... That's why we do the support the way we do it. There was a- Well let's talk about- let's just go a little international for once again I want to get this out of the way because it has got an issue here that I have to ask you about This is the woman who has just let- she was arrested in China as a spy and she was just released This is the FBI spy story Okay, Paula an American businesswoman has been deported from China on Friday after being convicted of espionage Her two-year ordeal was a source attention between the US and China Roxanna Saberi has the story

2:21:24 More than two years after Chinese security officials detained Sandy Phan Gillis, she's back home in the US. In a statement her husband said many of Sandy's friends and family members have been crying tears of joy The 57 year old is an American citizen of Chinese descent in 2015 She was visiting China on a trade mission with Houston officials and business people when suddenly she disappeared She was subjected to repeated threats, including the threat to take away her access to doctors and medicine. Last month, her husband Jeff told senators her captors accused her of spying for the US. Sandy is not some top secret agent for the FBI she's a wife and mother in a businesswoman Why would even say FBI when clearly she would be CIA not FBI?

2:22:12 All the stories report her as a Chinese accusing her of being a spy for the FBI. Interesting. A secret agent for the FBI, she is a wife and mother and business woman. Van Gillis' detention created friction between Washington and Beijing Her case had stalled until Secretary of State Rex Tillerson reportedly raised it on a trip to China in March On Tuesday, a court in China sentenced Fan Gillis to three and half years in prison and ordered her deportation. She got sentenced and then deported? Yeah well she's already stuck there for a couple of years yeah they were sentenced then deported which means she can't go back Well this is part of our deal we're clearly doing a deal with the Chinas Well there was some deal going on but but the question that kept coming up in my mind was the same one that you stopped the clip for

2:23:02 What's this FBI thing? I don't understand that. It would be CIA, why are they claiming it's FBI? Does the FBI have espionage intelligence spies or anybody floating around the world do we know that for a fact that they don't? Here's what here's what i do know is that FBI has cyber centers all over the world including The Netherlands They operate out of an office building I think in The Hague And it's FBI personnel who are eavesdropping and spying on people, and they're there with permission. But it is FBI! They're only there because they can do that outside of the country but actual spy walking around as a FBI agent? Do we know for a fact or maybe these agencies encroach on each other so they get bigger budgets? Could be totally true you make good point there

2:23:57 I mean how many, you know i'm always waiting for the incident where there's a shootout and a bunch of spies shoot each other. Spy versus spy! You know it no but spy versus spy is two different sides of the thing but all on the same side we have NSA CIA DIA FBI all loaded carrying weapons and they get into a shootout they kill each other yeah you're right absolutely right Well, there was other Chinese news. Kind of a non-event because we already covered one part of this news awhile back... Given the importance of the Silk Road project to Chinese leaders, The train's arrival was a surprisingly low key affair No ceremony or fanfare Yet this was still a very symbolic moment

2:24:44 The train had left China almost five months ago, laden with clothes bags and household goods. It returned carrying a cargo of pharmaceuticals vitamin pills baby milk powder and scotch whiskey This free train is reflection of the achievements of trade And it's one of the benefits that One Belt One Road has pushed forth The service will run once a week for several months while demand is tested Rail is cheaper than a plane and faster than a ship. This was not quite the train that left London Differing rail gauges in countries along the route mean a single locomotive and set of wagons can't travel the entire length The new route is designed to open up the fabled Silk Road trade routes between China and Europe China already has rail services to 14 other European cities including Madrid and Hamburg

2:25:42 Now, I didn't know about the 14 other direct routes which aren't really direct routes because they have to change track gauges. But we knew this wasn't much of an event because we already covered it when the train came into the UK that was months ago but there's something else going on which i think as I was researching this I came across the CPEC, The China Pakistan Economic Corridor And this is very similar, they've got a... and this is not train but this is a road. They have built a road through China that goes all the way down through Pakistan and just last week Pakistan gave China a 40-year lease for the port of Gwadar so they're making big moves here

2:26:32 Big moves. Well, this was all stems from I believe the and I think that the island buildings the same thing is there's a belief in China if you watch enough China news they don't talk about it openly but they can't you can kind of see them hinting at it that they think that the shipping that goes through that area that you always cite as the bottleneck the Straits of Hormuz are... They're they don't trust it So they're doing all these bypasses. Yeah, and they're good bypasses and this is a very good one straight through Pakistan which of course you know has all kinds of issues regarding India they actually... You know there's that little piece in the north where India kind of is in Pakistan And you can see the road it literally like boop! It does like a little half around about there. Well let's not stay away from that we'll continue down here in Pakistan

2:27:28 But we get the Pakistanis teaming up with the Chinas, this is going to make the Indian guys pretty pissed off. This is not going to end well." Well yeah, well the Indians are traditionally allies with the Russians. Ah okay so they're even better? And so the Chinese really can't do the same kind of deals with the Indians that they could with the Pakistanis And so yeah, it's great. I'm sure it's gonna be a very nice road. Yeah and we had... Oh yeah! It's almost done. It's almost completed just that last bit now to the Gwadar port and what was that term that you would caught earlier about the one something? One Road or was it...? Yeah one... I can't remember there was mentioned in their report that you just played Yes, yes I can't remember what they said but yeah

2:28:19 One belt, one road. Yeah one road and one belt that's what it was thank you. Well I was going to say tomorrow is the deadline for the writers strike, The Writers Guild of America. Yeah it'll be interesting see what happens So they have until 1201 AM to come up with a solution and it appears the way the Writers Guild is positioning it that's really only about an extra payment, an annual payment of something like $117 million which seems like really thats what they're arguing about? It must be really bad in Hollywood if they are arguing with that. That's a drop in the bucket for some of these properties

2:29:07 And of course the writers are getting screwed because they get paid less for writing on a TV series even though they say sometimes it takes more work to do that. So there's a lot of problems and it reminded me that tomorrow is really an important day I'm sure, not coincidence but tomorrow is May Day The day of labor. Traditional communist day, a celebration celebrating labor 9 to 5. Yes and we have more controversy lined up so nowadays if your boss asks you to work more than eight hours in a day or 40 hours in the week you're going to get paid extra time and a half But Gregory says,

2:29:57 is considering effectively abolishing the Fair Labor Standards Act. The bill before Congress today is called the Working Families Flexibility Act. Let me just stop it there for a second, this has not published yet the Working Families Flexibility Act so this is only hearsay? They have not published it yet It's not even been introduced into the House but tomorrow we have protests about it because the idea is... What did they call that? They called it What do they call that, John? That act that they're... Yeah. The Fair Labor Relations or something like that. Now is it true that the eight-day work week... I wish I didn't say anything because I was just listening to you. No its okay well is the 8 hour work week, Is that true? Was at the genesis of the May Day protests in the United States?

2:30:49 Well, it wasn't the genesis of the protest. That's what he just said! No no it was this new law... He said is bringing back around to the original... Listen again. The new law which... Play the clip play the clip I'll just tell you what the new law says that companies should be able to give you time off In lieu of time and a half payment if you work overtime. You get time and a half off? That I don't know, that I don't know. Gonna get paid extra time in a half but Gregory says... The May Day marches that are going to be taking place on Monday actually circle back to the originating cause because right now Congress

2:31:35 considering effectively abolishing the Fair Labor Standards Act. That's what he's saying, it's because they're... Yeah it's bullcrap! Where did it start? It just started as a pure communist thing that started in the early 1900s. Well, there's a lot of bullcrap in this report A because the Working Families Flexibility Act has not been published yet so they've seen something the general public hasn't. I saw working draft but all yeah but listen to the complaint about this because in general I understand. I'm pretty sure that, I know people who... Celebration of the Communist Revolution and it also stems from the Maypole Day you know the kids used to have fun on mayday But the protests are going to be held against The Working Families Flexibility Act of 2017 And here's the reasoning... The bill before Congress today is called The Working Families Flexibility Act If it passes instead of overtime employers could give comp time

2:32:31 Republican Kathy McMorris Rogers of Spokane supports it because she says the bill gives employees options so they can be present in their families lives. Democrat Susan Del Bene, who represents the first congressional district north of Seattle... Notice there's no quote from The Republican but The Democrat gets a quote. ...disagrees. Well I think we want to make sure that workers do have flexibility but that doesn't mean i'm presenting a false choice like this bill where you aren't guaranteeing that employees can even use their accrued There's no remedy if they're denied being allowed to use that. The Working Families Flexibility Act is expected to be brought to the floor in the House next week So she's already claiming that this thing, oh you know it's a scam You can't get overtime and just get time off The whole thing is a protest When you actually go to this thing and watch the protests

2:33:25 All it is, is anti-Trump. Yeah of course that's what it all is. Hate Trump hate Trump look who he's trying to screw down if they had the bill in front of them they would they didn't get it out in time. They've made a... It will come and go before the actual word is the language of the bill as in the public domain I agree But it's just always a good opportunity to hate Trump and May Day shows that we're good liberals because we're celebrating the communist revolution of 1918. And meanwhile, F-Trump! Where are your tax returns? Yeah right show us your tax returns exactly that is going to be the thing. We are so pathetic

2:34:05 So we have a another story that's not covered here at all and it seems to be covered but this is a german story about the state there beside themselves over the store you haven't heard about it. About the guy who's a german officer in their i guess in the army who decided to get in line, in the Syrian refugee camps and he's got now he's come in as a refugee and he's getting all these benefits. He is making out like a bandit, he has got a car, he has got a house Well they're trying to think that maybe a terrorist or Nazi are trying to cause trouble but here listen to this German scandal story. We need to figure out how would German army officer manage to register as a Syrian asylum seeker without being detected?

2:34:50 An Interior Ministry spokesman said the lieutenant had been given a place in a refugee home and financial aid. Even more oddly, he was only exposed after he was discovered planting a gun at Vienna airport. Here's more It's still unclear what the man's intentions were and whether he had accomplices. Items were seized during a search of a possible acquaintance of his in Berlin on Thursday night, but no arrests were made The Federal Office for Migration and Refugees is now under severe pressure They accepted the German officer as a Syrian asylum seeker The decision was made just a few months ago long after the initial chaos of the migration crisis was over

2:35:33 Let's be clear, the quality control mechanisms of the Migration and Refugees Office failed. Clearly no one questioned him about any regional specifics in Syria or Damascus where he said he came from. He was evidently never made to write his name in Arabic and yet he was still accepted. They need some extreme vetting over there. It goes on and on, there was a lot they couldn't get it did in their ass to speak Arabic. There's a lot that cut this short because this goes on because everybody beside themselves like your imagine of course they are and they're just fuss budgeting around the whole thing is like they're all what I do we do deserve for sure fall into this is like a major story because it shows that their system doesn't work at all

2:36:20 So, and I thought the guy was just doing it so he can like live his normal life but didn't get this free check in the mail for... because they give them quite a bit of money. Anyway that's the odd story. They give him money, they give him cars, they give him place to stay, yeah? Yeah! They protect them? Yeah. Now it's uh.. Europe will wake up and its too late already You should have been woke, Europe. You should've had woke. Woke and toke. There's a new book coming out about President Obama and there is some very interesting little nugget in here this is what does it call? This book is Rising Star the Making of Barack Obama written by historian David Garrow

2:37:10 He is a Pulitzer Prize winner. He wrote Bearing the Cross, a biography of Martin Luther King Jr., Of course he's a regular contributor to The New York Times and woppa-woppa-woppa-woppa-woppa-woppa! And in this very interesting...he wrote in this book about a relationship that President Obama had In his two years at Occidental College, which we know nothing about those records have been sealed His relationship with openly gay professor Lawrence Golden. Ah yes I know about this. Yeah yeah quote from the book Golden made a huge impact on Barry Obama notice he's calling him Barry here Why does no one call him Barry in real life? Why is it all why is only now why don't we call them that when he was an office anyway

2:37:59 You're asking nobody. Yeah, Golden made a huge impact on Barry Obama as he wrote in the book almost a quarter century later asked about his understanding of gay issues Obama enthusiastically said quote my favorite professor my first year in college is one of the first openly gay people that I knew He was a terrific guy with whom Obama developed quote a friendship beyond the classroom Three years later, Obama wrote something elusively to his first intimate girlfriend that he had thought about and considered gayness but ultimately had decided that a same-sex relationship would be less challenging and demanding than developing one with the opposite sex. Again this is all in the book but there's no doubting that Golan gave 18 year old Barry a vastly more positive uplifting image of gay identity and self confidence then you have known in Honolulu

2:38:48 So there's an interview with this author about this particular, well about number of things but about did the president consider gayness and go back on it. Let me rephrase one of the conspiracies was there any time in Barack Obama's life that he experimented outside of the heterosexual lifestyle? I think anyone and everyone no matter what their role in life deserves certain basic degree of privacy in that context. So, that's not something that I speculate upon either in the book or in speaking about him prior to Michelle Robinson Barack had three major serious relationships

2:39:46 Alex Genevieve both of their names are already on the public record by the way pretty big stripper names right there Genevieve please but one should not look those relationships as being more important in kind than his... The guy is trying to say yes. Exactly, yeah he blew the guy! I don't even have to fast forward the clip but here's the problem if Obama considered gayness which is a quote from the book, I'm not making this word up but he decided it would be same-sex relationship will be less challenging

2:40:31 Does that now mean that... I think that says it all. How would he know its less challenging unless he did it? I don't care about whether he did or not, here's the issue so apparently is a choice you're not born that way its a choice The president made a choice. For the President definitely was Yeah but he is the leader of dimension B Where everyone said if you're gay, you're gay. You have no choice in the matter but apparently you do! Well he did. He's a pretty important guy. I don't know if you can generalize from his specific experiences

2:41:18 I think you understand the point i'm making. I know what you're trying to make and at this point people try to make it and i think its a good point to make if you want to make it, im not subscriber either side of that argument. Im not saying thats my belief just saying you cant sit there and pontificate about how is the choice, its not a choice your born that way And then you make a choice. Yeah, that's... No I agree it's the hypocrisy that you're bitching about Yes! I don't care what he does We all know that Reggie Love was his lover. We all know those kids are not his, but they're Scottie Pippins and Stevie Wonder. We know we can see it. I'm less concerned about that anyway as opposed to my concern that he's a Muslim Yeah And that

2:42:12 the head of the CIA, Brennan is a Muslim. And I don't mind people being a Muslim in office...I don't like people that are hiding it because why are you hiding this? Are you a subversive Muslim? That's what you're doing by hiding it. If you are openly, but then of course he's there's political reasons not to brag about being a Muslim if you're the president United States named Barack Hussein. There's people who go oh I don't know maybe I shouldn't vote for him because these Muslims I don't like these Muslims but on the other hand it would be like

2:42:50 He's got to come out and say, look I was a Muslim. I didn't blow up the country or anything. I don't know. Something like that. I just have mixed feelings about it. Well but he you know he's being very quiet right now although he gets a total pass. You know this uh... Being on the yacht? Well no this Wall Street company that is doing this $400 000 speech for do you know what what the setting is for this speech I don't know, Bahamas? Healthcare conference. This is his quid pro quo this is the payoff Oh for all the insurance companies yes Big pay off Here's your money Yeah you get it It's not unusual to get Hillary Clinton pioneered this Yeah You get the money later That way you can go testify and say did you get paid for this And you can say with honesty Say I've not been paid a nickel For this opinion I have not been paid a nickel To do this

2:43:44 And then you may get some money afterwards as a thank you. Yeah, seems like that's who made not thank you for one speech is pretty good going to get a lot more thank yous in that $400000 and definitely yeah Okay well is anything else i want to have a little local story i can play. Which is it kinda disconcerting to me cuz i don't have a place up in the woods not in the woods but everything is going on with weather is your uniform shirt there's yeah that's what it is there's dears,

2:44:23 Is that a new senses of dears or dear isn't the plural of back to be there i don't care if they're all i know is that their past okay and add, end the biggest passed up there is kind of a is kinda v. The point of this story the story this clip is called eagles in milpitas We have new details this morning about a pair of bald eagles living on the campus of a Mopedis Elementary School. An eaglet has hatched in their nest! The bald eagles have attracted a lot of attention since they were first spotted back in January at Kirtner Elementary School Our media partner, The Mercury News reports A parent who's been watching the Eagles says that the Eagle was born about 2-3 weeks ago

2:45:07 Get out of there those these birds are a pest they eat the take kittens you got kittens get a little kitten outside wandering around boom done gone puppy. Gone anything like that gone babies almost actually golden eagles when i be more fearful to golden eagle which is extreme, extremely nasty and huge. They're much bigger than a bald eagle I had one, i think i've talked about on the show that there's one around here and this damn thing took down a seagull an ate it whole in my back deck. Oh my! I remember this It was nasty Yeah and there were feathers everywhere so with all these feathers...I look up into the plum tree, there is a plum tree back there

2:45:49 And there's the eagle digesting this seagull that he ate whole. And he's looking at me with a look on his face that says, What do you look at what's up bro so i walked very slowly backwards into the house and close the door and it was like is he still about fifteen twenty minutes later. You know we took off huge huge and i'm telling these things are frightening but i don't see any of these stories about the cute little eaglet And they ball the Eagle and Milpitas as being a positive benefit to the neighborhood. I like the term Eaglet just is that this real term? Yeah, pretty good. That's pretty good. Well we as we wrap it up let me check one more time on Clark McGregor he still he's still out of John boy and people are lucky we watch that stuff for them really

2:46:41 And finally, this was a notable switch and change in attitude. We went from Kim Jong-un's big celebration with all the goose stepping military out there showing off their weapons Oh my god look! This is something new Now what did we say about the something new? Yeah, that could be made out of papier-mâché for all we know. We don't know if it's some super thing or listen to this report now In a new North Korean propaganda video the White House and an aircraft carrier are in the crosshairs A carrier in the US Capitol are shown blowing up It is the latest installment of intimidating images from the regime

2:47:20 Here, Kim Jong-un enters on the red carpet flanked by officers. He beams with pride at the weaponry on display but tonight a closer look reveals some of these weapons are far less deadly than they seem I think the parade was based more in impressing their leader, Kim Jong Un that impressing an adversary Weapons expert Michael Prejant A former US military intelligence officer whose war gained against North Korea saw some things amiss with the weapons displayed These are Type 88 rifles AK-74s with a grenade projectile and you're seeing that here. Now these rounds are dummy, these rounds are fake but this capability is so outdated I mean this is the capability of the North Koreans stole from the United States during the Korean War we stopped using this in 1961

2:48:07 The reason this is not a menacing weapon to an adversary, is because it has high failure rate. At first glance these appear to be sophisticated grenade launchers but experts say they're really outdated bullet magazines with the high failure rate We are told some missiles at the parade were likely mock-ups Experts say its too risky for them to display the real thing Now sure Okay, it's too risky to display the... No! What is going on? Why all of a sudden would they stop the fear-mongering and now it could be just bunch of dummies. Bunch of cardboard weapons. Why the change? Well that's the question because we do know and we've known from the past there has been lots of reports that Russians used to pull this crap in the 50s and 60s with their parades of missiles. Right And although they do have missiles but they don't parade them

2:49:02 I don't know that's a good question i think that's the question of the day because normally if you want to keep the public in all hating on north korea exactly wouldn't even discuss it like this what we were is that present presented with that rt cnn. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. Yeah I know and to me maybe the word came down hey back off we're gonna Could be oh, I've got information man new shit has come to light okay this would be my last bit for today Inside we have so many great producers in so many places high and low We got low friends in high places anonymous for reasons you will understand the true reason why Jason Chaffetz is Resigning don't we all want to know that

2:49:45 I do. Today was the Utah County Republican Party Organizing Convention, this is the convention where we choose our party leadership for the country...for the county, sorry. This is Jason Chaffetz's biggest county. I are anonymous source who I do know as former member of leadership get to listen in on conversations with nobody giving me a second thought so you bet I listened and thank you now that's a producer Jason's inside circle was talking to some other county leadership about why he is really retiring. You want to take a little guess, John? Sex scandal! No... He is not retiring to run for governor. He is retiring because after the 2016 national election his family has been threatened. His family and his family have been threatened These are the types of crazy threats that you can't ignore with plenty of detail on torture rape etc., of him and his family

2:50:40 Representatives, of course do not get any special protection when they're outside of Washington DC where Capitol Police handle security in the district. Any security that he needs comes out of his own pocket money isn't the biggest concern The safety of those special to him is Later today I asked representative Mia Love if she was receiving the same threats and she said no She hasn't had any serious threats since she's taken office but then again she never crossed Hillary So that's the inside scoop This is what happens when you dare cross Hillary And I think that he is on the Hillary hit list Well, if that's the case quitting his position is not going to help him. Well she I mean the Hit List doesn't necessarily have to be killing people you know we didn't kill Bill O'Reilly which has another by the way there's another theory about that. Then again I'll say this similar retort then she was successful she gets him to drop out yes exactly exactly he shouldn't drop out

2:51:40 Well, Ross Perot dropped out. They threatened his family and went screw it! He could have done a lot of good for the country Maybe But we know he dropped out I think it was the CIA that threatened him. That's what the implication is We don't know who was doing this threatening but enough... Could be the CIA? It could be, yeah He's a troublemaker Although I did hear that this is a true rumor, who the hell knows. That may be by the way stop! The CIA angle if it was like one of these intelligence agencies specifically them or even the FBI for that matter... ...that would make it a little more credible if you knew for a fact as to who it was Yeah well maybe our source will tell us more as more comes to light. I don't know if he's gonna know anymore than he gave us but okay

2:52:26 There is this crazy rumor though that the people leaving Fox, that there is indeed an alternative conservative network that's being actively discussed amongst conservative donors. I was thinking because of the way this came down when O'Reilly left and then all these other people are quitting or they're moving out or doing whatever they were doing... That they were going to gravitate toward The Blaze Do a deal i think that i can see back doing a deal giving o'reilly half the network or third of the network bringing in roger ales giving him a third of the network.

2:53:03 Beck can drop his ownership down to maybe 20% with some more giveaways. And actually survive, and actually survive. And do well because with Ailes running the thing in particular he's a show business both of these guys Ailes and Roll Ryder are show business geniuses that can make something work and Becks already got kind of half Half of the network that he needs doesn't have as many households as you'd like to have right but i think it could pop that thing right in there and he did next thing you know you got this crazy thing going on. I was interesting though it could happen it could absolutely happen

2:53:42 And with O'Reilly as the foundation, he claims to have these secrets about what they were trying to do to get him out of there and all the rest. He could do like an expose on it. But just looking at Fox News they're wounded, their weak you know now would be time to do it. You can grab a couple stars Hannity will come over in a second Oh yeah! Yeah that way it would be perfect And, and it would be an even better scenario because of course now the Democrats are now openly running Fox News. They could set up this one too with the same backers who are really pulling the strings or maybe the real deal I don't know but there's definitely something afoot and of course... Well Riley in particular is loaded and I think Ailes' to I think those guys got a quarter billion dollars at least

2:54:34 So they could front the thing and then get some investors, you know, the Koch brothers or somebody. Well I hope they do it because that's just more material for us Oh yes! It should be great. I'm all for it We're all in Let's get it going everybody Okay next time we speak I will be in uh... In the new casa so won't sound as boomy everything is off the walls I am actually just sitting here an empty house Just a visit Make sure you got all set to go before you come from my podcaster pro That's right Anything to watch today, or can we just have a nice relaxing Sunday? There's not gonna be much. I mean there's the last remnants of the NBA first round

2:55:19 Which is kind of fun and the Warriors should be back in action probably Tuesday or Wednesday. Well then I'm excited to see everybody again on Thursday Let's keep it at that coming to you from the crackpot condo here in the skyscraper It's in downtown Austin, Texas We are course the capital of the drone star state And it's in FEMA region 6 on the government map if you're looking for the exact location Until Thursday, remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA until then in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from northern Silicon Valley where the paint has dried I'm John C. Dvorak again we're back on Thursday same time same bat station and channel noagendershow.com until then adios mofos! Maxine Waters keep on trolling California shills won't you keep on whining with me?

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2:58:26 Kids versus the government. To sue the president, now at 11 she is really getting serious! Avery McCray has been passionate about the environment to sue the president She is really getting serious! Kids versus the government We own the children Trump is not doing anything to help stop climate change Show the world! Please. Bill Nye is their leader, he is derr leeder We shall follow you, we shall follow you He's now in charge of the stupid and they love the guy Yeah, this personality... He's a liar Bill Nye the Fuhrer Save the world! It's like I got him, I got these kids Show the world! Show the world! Show the world! Oh yeah, your right We own the future is what that saying

2:59:18 You know, we own the future. We own the children. We own their mind. And I screamed so loud... All your children belong to us! ...and I was getting ready to cry but then I was like no, no, I have to go back to class. All your children belong to us! Unbelievable. And I screamed just so loud... Save the world!! All your children belong to us! We own the children. Go back to class. All your children belong to us! Save the world!!! Go back to class.

2:59:57 I have my pen. Where'd my pen go? Now, I don't remember what I was going to write down. It was something important. This guy John Speeder said that he had to go. Ivanka Trump, you jerk! You don't have to be so snotty. You don't have to say it when we get it out. You don't have to be... Mr. Mike Konstantinoff I think he's dead. He had to go. With the Specker family moving in.

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