Episode 911 · Sunday, 12 March 2017

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Global tensions flare as Turkey clashes with the Netherlands, the EPA battles media framing, and the Podfather navigates the range anxiety of a borrowed Tesla.

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EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, and Michael Flynn dominate a week of geopolitical friction and media manipulation. While the BBC faces accusations of stripping Pruitt’s climate comments of their context, a major diplomatic crisis erupts as Turkey accuses German and Dutch officials of Nazi practices following the barring of political rallies. The fallout includes riots in Rotterdam and the retroactive registration of Michael Flynn as a foreign agent for his $530,000 lobbying contract with Turkish interests.

Domestic tensions rise as former Congressman Dennis Kucinich reveals he was wiretapped in his own office, while the Awan brothers IT scandal involving House Democrats remains largely ignored by the New York Times. In South Korea, the Constitutional Court unanimously upholds the impeachment of President Park Geun-hye over a bribery scandal involving Samsung. Meanwhile, the UN warns of a looming famine in Yemen caused by naval blockades as US Marines deploy to Syria for the Raqqa offensive. The travel industry reports a Trump Slump in flight searches, though Russian interest in US travel has surged by 54 percent according to Hopper data.

John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry explore the linguistic history of Carter’s Little Liver Pills and the origins of bafflegab. The duo critiques the Tesla Model S as a high-priced toy plagued by range anxiety while Adam recounts his experience as an unrecognized Podfather at a South by Southwest Apple meetup. The show concludes with a look at CNN presenter Reza Aslan’s controversial segment featuring the consumption of a human brain in India.


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CHAPTER 01 / 39 Discussion

Daylight Saving Time, Global Scheduling Discrepancies

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the show by discussing the start of Daylight Saving Time on March 12, 2017. They debate the correct terminology of "saving" versus "savings" and express frustration over the lack of global synchronization, noting that Europe changes its clocks two weeks later. Dvorak promises to find archival recordings from the 1920s and 1930s of Hollywood figures discussing the time change.

daylight saving time· austin· silicon valley· time zones· europe

00:00 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. Sunday March 12th 2017 this is your award winning Gizmo Nation media assassination episode 9 or 1 won! This is no agenda Alternative Universe Dissociative Disorder and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in the downtown area Austin, Tejas. Capital to drone star state in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where asked the question if they're saving time Where are they saving it too? I'm John C Dvorak It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Yes nailed it what are they doing with that daylight saving time

00:45 You got a note from one of our producers, make sure you say saving time. It's not savings! I know, I said it properly. He's true... True. Who cares? Sucks. The only thing that bothers me is- You have the s on there should be savings, they asked extra s stands for sucks. For savings. Yes I just don't understand why it doesn't happen globally. Why is it here now and in Europe, it's in two weeks? Well, used to be...it never used to be at this time they changed because of popular demand. Oh yes! Everybody wanted to get screwed up by this. Popular demand, I'm sure. No. That's what they said. We've been through this a million times. I still- We go through every year we bitch and moan until the second set says until they reverse it then its great cause you get extra hour sleep

01:33 I still think that it's just to mess us up, just to show that the elites have power over us no matter what. I have a bunch of... and I'm going to promise what I've promised for the last 10 years or 9 years. Oh stop! Stop, stop, stop, stop. What's gonna happen? No, I'm gonna promise you. I am going to dig through the archives which I have a lot of old reel-to-reel tapes mostly recordings done in the 20s and 30s and dig up my copies of all the Hollywood big wigs of the era moaning and groaning about daylight savings time on one hand or extolling its virtues on the other. Oh, it's almost like an alternate universe piece! Yes in fact it is not to mention it So how you doing? Well I'm doing pretty good had a very interesting experience this weekend I don't know if we want to save it for tech news or if you wanna hear right now but... Oh let's hear it now you brought it up

CHAPTER 02 / 39 Discussion

Tesla Model S, Autopilot Technology and Range Anxiety

A host recounts a weekend experience driving a Tesla Model S 90 borrowed from a former New York banker for a trip to New Braunfels, Texas. While praising the impressive autopilot technology and acceleration, the host criticizes the vehicle's long wheelbase, poor visibility, and the "white knuckle" anxiety caused by limited battery range. The discussion concludes that the Chevy Volt is a superior practical choice compared to the Tesla, which is described as a "jerk-off toy for rich people."

tesla model s· elon musk· autopilot· electric vehicles· chevy volt

02:33 Was it a techy thing? Kind of, yeah. Former New York banker and I Oh okay For a number of reasons Hold on... You seem to be hanging out with this banker a lot Some kind of hum in the wire today I don't know what's going on Anyway So I said well good man why don't you give me the Tesla for the weekend He has an Model S What is it I think the 90 or something. I don't know, i'm sure he has the high-end model yes and Tina and I have already had tickets to see Leanne Rimes at Green Hall in New Braunfels which is great because it's that's like a 200 person venue very very small and new brown fills is the place where they make one of the great barbecues Texas style barbecues in the world yeah and they have the grist mill restaurant there there's a lot of there's a lot going touristy but this is a lot going on there in New Braunfels

03:29 So this is perfect and a great opportunity. And I've always wanted to test this car, you know? I've harped on it enough. I think...I don't like the idea of battery cars, you know that. Uh so after some long instruction because man there's a lot you got it's very different. Have you ever driven one of these John? You ever driven the Tesla? Yes once. The S or the small one? The first one? No no that thing's yeah no the s okay So we have to go down I-35. The first thing I noticed by the way is that you can't open a door Exactly, it's there's a lot of oddities with the remote control You walk up and then the handle pops out or it doesn't you might have to back up and walk up again Or use the remote To open it but once your in its very low

04:17 very limited, it's a sports car. Very, very limited visibility for in the city my personal feeling but the two things that really bug me about the car right off the bat for city driving very long wheelbase It's like the truck almost you have to really take your corners considering that its long and I think thats because of the battery It's funny too because when you look at one it just doesn't look that long. It looks pretty much like a mid-sized anything Well, you feel it immediately and the former banker said this is something you got to pay attention to right off the bat Because I think his wife might have nicked a couple of corners And then there's the next thing The rims on this thing stick out of... are broader than the tire itself So curb rash is imminent

05:06 Yes, it's not good for a for that curb rash on the tire. No it's on the rim Yeah Which is not good? No and so this it already has rash on the rim So I'm not really a Sean rash rash on the rim everybody, so we're gonna go down route 35 which is you and if we left around 4 3 34 o'clock so traffic is building up And I 35 can get pretty gnarly let me tell you something John This car blew my mind with the autopilot. I did not drive to New Braunfels, the car drove itself. Oh that's nice! And from stop and go traffic we were on the web browser, connecting phones and the car is just driving by... In fact at a certain point we have to get off I-35 and i'm thinking, I wonder if it'll actually just do that too?

05:56 That's how comfortable it felt lane changes click. I never drove one with that feature oh my god now, I'm very familiar with Adaptive cruise control and with you know with systems to keep you in your lane It'll kind of bop you back into the lane But this was an absolute mind-boggling experience any car I have in the future I want this technology in it Here's the problem with the Tesla besides it being beautifully made very very pretty Tina loves it. She loves the minimalism of what you think is fantastic I think it's okay, but yeah, I've driven these Hand-built production cars which this not this isn't what it is But it feels kind of like a car that someone still built in his garage I don't know if you had that when you know there's something about suspension or just certain things It's also glued together Maybe it's the maybe it's the glue

06:49 So it has a little bit of that feel. So at driving, I realize a whole bunch of things start clicking in my head now we the car has about 180 mile radius if you're really just driving if not trying to conserve energy which I don't want to do when they're in the car I just want to drive and have to think about So, you know the angst of seeing the and I knew this would happen seeing the range meter which looks like a battery. Right knuckles yes! Yes it's... I drove a slew of electric cars for an article And I've driven them all and I always kind of push the thing, well this thing will do X number of miles supposedly. Right. And by the time you're like within 20 or 30 of the x-number it's telling you to get a charger! You're gonna die! It's horrible. Exactly

07:40 And but also just the feeling that you know we're so we're toodling along say hey Let's just see how the pickup is when we're doing 70. You know I floor the thing it's unbelievable There's no doubt about it This is an unbelievable beast of a machine, but then immediately 30 miles gets taken off my head Gets taken off my range like I don't like this So I realized that my freedom, the whole idea of an automobile. My freedom has been taken away from me. I'm not free to go. You have to find charging stations if you want to do anything outside of the city really. It's like cashless society. It gets worse and so I really...I'm like okay we're not worried about it because we made it back with 25% on the battery so didn't have to charge but

08:28 If you have to charge, and the banker showed me. He showed me the Tesla kit in the back so here's if you have a Tesla charger which is supercharger which still takes 45 minutes. 45 minutes? What are we going to do for 40 months? Okay whatever... Then you have the adapter for chargers that don't fit the Tesla those that'll take 8-10 hours to charge the battery and then you have pretty much 110 socket plug which will take 24-36 hours to charge the battery fully Fine. So again on the way back, I just love the technology of the car...I think the sound system was okay There's a lot of extras- I don't know if he has this super sound system and this suspension and all that But again, the car is driving itself! I am absolutely loving this experience Then we get back and like okay, I happen to have a charger in my garage there's a spot where one car can sit there and charge

09:23 Do I pull in? I plug it in, which also takes a little while to figure out because they won't let you plug it in. It's like...it has the light up red and so it's taking time! And I'm tired and we want to go to bed. Plug it in. The next morning I wake up think hmmm You know there are lot of people with electric cars that are in my building Should I now go down at 730 in the morning and unplug since I am charged and people don't want-I do not want be seen as a douche So another stressful moment from this vehicle which is supposed to free me and make me feel great about saving the world from climate change. This car would be fantastic if it had an engine! Everything else, but it's the wrong car for the mission! The play- because you can't use the autopilot in the city under 50 miles per hour It gets all wonky doesn't want to do it gives you limited auto pilot ability whatever that means

10:13 And that's the only thing it is good for, meaning you don't have to go anywhere. The car has no range! It is completely the stupidest vehicle I've ever seen in my life. I would love if had an engine. Unbelievable. Well this is my conclusion after driving all these little cars... That the Chevy Volt with this little engine. It's probably the best, it's probably the best ever! Absolutely the best you never get to white knuckle you never get that anxiety You could drive that thing to Seattle it would be running off a little engine and which is a gutless wonder like 150 horsepower or something like that but you'd get there without worrying about it and it would be charging the battery as you go and when the battery got charged it would turn the engine off and use the battery again Yeah was perfect yeah And what's really perfect about that

11:00 Key to all these electric cars is that in these like San Francisco Bay Area, Los Angeles Austin where there's a lot of traffic and you're stopped. The motor's not running. You're just running around on a little electric battery, so when you're not moving it's not using any energy at all that's why we get all these discre- You get better gas mileage in the city than you do on the road because it's not running and that is the great thing about it and I'm telling ya this Chevy Volt is one I'd buy if I was gonna buy one. You know I almost bought one a couple years ago when were talking about them they had huge discounts on them But when you really think about it, because I was trying to break this down. It all came together for me what my issue is with this vehicle? So what happened of course is Elon Musk is a car nut he had his McLaren F1 and he loves vehicles the only way he could build a car is to have someone else pay for it which is the government through subsidies making it a necessity for it to be an electric vehicle

11:57 This car is unsuitable for every imaginary scenario, except for picking up chicks at the Whataburger. Which I'm sure does great! It's not a city car there is very limited visibility Again the wheelbase is a problem it's just not a great city car but that's all the only range that really has to do anything of any use But that autopilot technology man...I wish that was on every car That is absolutely outstanding Well, it probably will be on every car eventually. I hope so! Probably within a short period of time since that one's already in business But this is just for...this is just a jerk-off toy for rich people and has nothing to do with the freedom of movement at all, at all, at all Again Chevy Volt Yeah gotcha

12:46 So that new one, by the way is very I think it's a lot more stylish than the original one. The new Chevy? I haven't seen the new Chevy Volt yet when you see them side-by-side. That's interesting they really touched up to styling so it's little more modern looking instead of boxy right Yeah, for in the city I see it makes total sense. For a car like that you need big windows it has to be small and the Volt is small and just... That makes a lot of sense this car but I get it we can make such amazing products It's truly like the first thing Tina said wow this looks like an Apple product on the inside! It does! You know? It's very sleek just absolutely beautifully made but if only had an engine thats how- I would take the Chevy Volt engine in that thing I would

13:31 It's all you need. Yeah, that would make it worth it! Anyway that was my experience I still have the car if anyone has any ideas of what I could do before I have to return for the test I'm happy to do it Is is still hooked in the charger? No no I went down at 730 and felt bad like oh I should unhook it so people don't think I am hogging the machine There's another issue What's that? Yes a social issue huge social issue Yeah, I go over to Costco. They got a few charging stations but they're not...the curious thing was they used to have a lot more of them when there was no electric cars on the road and that Chevy EV or that GMEV was floating around. But now they've got a few but you can see a lot of these places are like Disneyland's got charging stations up by the front gate for electric cars but they fill up! Yeah, there's not enough of them for sure.

14:29 Oh, anyway. Well that's interesting I'm glad you had that experience Yeah me too and again again i love everything about it except uh... just completely useless 100% completely useless Oh, Elon! Good work. And then last night South By started here. South by Southwest Yes we've noticed All these great news stories and they have these panel discussions and they stream them and you look at it and think to yourself would I actually want to sit in the audience for this? This is dumb They got low end people saying nothing Well Apple threw a little podcast party yesterday

CHAPTER 03 / 39 Discussion

South by Southwest, Apple Podcast Meetup and Nairobi Driver

Adam Curry describes attending an Apple podcast meetup during the South by Southwest (SXSW) festival in Austin, noting that he was largely unrecognized despite his "Podfather" status. He shares an anecdote about a driver from Nairobi who discussed the heavy Chinese influence and infrastructure projects in Africa. The segment also mentions a CNN party attended by Jake Tapper and Carl Bernstein.

sxsw· apple· nairobi· china· carl bernstein

15:11 No, did you go? Of course. Yeah it was like I should have known better wasn't really like the typical Apple podcast meetup because it's south by and so they rent out part of a restaurant that was noisy couldn't really hear or talk And I took Sergine, and I took Tina and her daughter. And one of our friends thinking like I was going to be cool is gonna be like the pod father walking around people are gonna fall to their knees. Nobody knows who no one knows who No, no one knew who I was except the you know, the hello, I'm Podfather You should have one of those big shoes or just that I'm in one of our buttons so that now it's all didn't look very cool did have a funny driver though i think was fair that we used

15:56 And the guy's from Nairobi and he's been in Austin for 15 years. I'm talking, and you know, before that Nairobi said did you leave when the Chinese came in? Man this guy lit up! He was like, ah you know about that?! Everything Chinese we have to eat the food everything is made in China. I look at my friends oh I can't eat this yeah you can eat it but you might wind up in a casket also made in China. It was very funny. And he said, Trump and I said well it looks like we're gonna have the same thing that maybe Trump is going to have the Chinese come in build our infrastructure. The guy says yes yes very good they should build the wall they have experience okay

16:37 If you ever meet anyone from the continent of Africa, just talk to them about the Chinese. They light up like a Christmas tree." Yeah still under discussed in this country totally we've been discussing it since we started this show I think so and briefed by somebody in Germany years ago about And every time you look into it, it's all true. And I don't know why we don't discuss it but nobody discusses it. And also the Chinese could build the railroads. I think they have experience with that too here in this country? Oh God yeah! They could build a railroad all the way to Dusseldorf. Oh man... So good times there was a CNN party and we considered crashing it but... Well you should've. Apparently Tapper was there signing pillowcases

17:24 And I think Bernstein was there as well, but no one... what I heard is Bernstein was walking around kind of lost because no one recognized him. No one knew who he was It's not funny. Well, not if you're Bernstein? No! Well you had the same experience at the so-called podcasting party. This is true this is true oh and I want to mention I was completely wrong about Futurama using face bag Oh yes we were called out for it but in my defense I asked how long ago did I say that now you know the chat room frankly maybe they were yelling I didn't see it but they should have caught that as a bad mistake so I apologize

CHAPTER 04 / 39 Discussion

Scott Pruitt, BBC Media Bias and CO2 Claims

The hosts analyze a BBC report regarding EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt’s appearance on CNBC. They demonstrate how the BBC allegedly took Pruitt's comments out of context to claim he denied carbon dioxide's role in global warming. By playing the original audio, they show Pruitt actually argued that measuring human impact with precision is challenging and requires further debate.

scott pruitt· epa· bbc· cnbc· climate change

18:02 Shit happens. Yeah, I guess they said it in 2012 or something like that? Yeah yeah so... It happens. Uh okay! That's what happens when you don't write your own material. Or when you don't write anything really When you're just doing a show off the cuff Maybe- Just to get the media deconstruction going John if you don't mind i'd just like to uh take us to The Gate for a second To The Gate, To The Gate, To The Gates It's an excellent example of how mainstream corporate media, sometimes not even corporate media because my example that I'm going to use is BBC. How they will...I have to say purposely take things out of context. Government media? In this case it's government media yes and this is regarding the new

18:55 head of the EPA, Pruitt is the appointee who has been confirmed and in the job enrolling. And I'm trying to think should I play the original first or the disinformation first? Oh, that's a good question. It's always a judgment I would start with the disinformation That was not what my inclination was Okay so this is BBC and listen very closely to what they are saying Based on an interview that was done on CNBC, what they're saying is the chief of the EPA—what his stance is on carbon dioxide and climate change. The man President Trump has put in charge of America's environmental policies has declared he doesn't believe carbon dioxide is a primary cause of global warming—a view that goes against the overwhelming body of scientific evidence from researchers around the world.

19:52 Scott Pruitt is a former Attorney General of Oklahoma who's frequently sued the Environmental Protection Agency in the past. He also described the Paris Climate Accord to reduce greenhouse gas emissions as a bad deal Here he is speaking to CNBC I think that measuring with precision human activity on the climate is something very challenging to do and there's tremendous disagreement about that, the degree of impact So no, I would not agree that it's a primary contributor to the global warming that we see. Scott Pruitt saying things that are frankly not true to CNBC Now i'm going to stop there and go back to what was originally said The original soundbite so what is the claim here? The new head of EPA says CO2 has nothing to do with climate change That's what they're saying

20:41 Which is a reasonable thesis done by a lot of different people. But still, what this BBC is claiming that he just said carbon emissions... no CO2 has nothing to do with climate change Nothing Now let's listen to the... Which is clearly untrue which he said something like that He slammed him! Butt-slammed him! Listen here he says... Contributor uh.. to the global warming we see Scott Brewer saying things that are frankly not true to CNBC. Frankly, not true? Okay now... Frankly not true! Now let's listen to what is true. Why don't you just let the guy talk? Why do yo have to put this little two cents worth in at the end

21:17 Because it's Trump people. I know, I'm actually screwing up with your point that you're trying to make which is that was just taken out of context but go on Here's the actual original interview quote Let me ask you one other thing just get through the nitty gritty Do you believe that its been proven that CO2 is the primary control knob for climate? do you believe that No, I think that measuring with precision human activity on the climate is something very challenging to do and there's tremendous disagreement about the degree of impact. So no, I would not agree that it's a primary contributor to global warming we see. Okay. We don't know yet as far as...we need continue debate and review analysis. Oh, oh, well gee BBC! Where was THAT part of the interview?

22:08 So they just took one thing that they wanted to slam and put it. This is why we do the no agenda show, thank you That's this is going on and people need to be reminded of this. I'm glad you did that clip This is just what this is par for the course big time bigly they have an agenda They're gonna just take anybody you can't say anything your best bet Is there's just a stay out of the media don't get quoted because they're just getting misquoted in fact Joe Kernan who was conducting? This interview kind of says that here at the last 20 seconds It's it's it's a I agree when I hear the science has settled. It's like I never heard

22:45 Science actually gotten to a point where it was so that's the whole point of science is that you keep asking questions You keep asking questions, but I don't want to be called a denier So, you know scares me. It's a terrible thing to be caught anyway administrator Pruitt I know you don't wanna be called idea Thanks for being with us this morning. I appreciate Everybody's afraid And he didn't say what the BBC claimed he said. I just want to play the opening of that BBC clip again so you can hear it. The man President Trump was put in charge of America's environmental policies has declared, He doesn't believe carbon dioxide is a primary cause of global warming. Pfft! He didn't say that

CHAPTER 05 / 39 Discussion

Carter's Little Liver Pills, Archaic Phrases and Word Origins

John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry discuss the origin of the phrase "more than Carter has pills," tracing it back to a popular patent medicine called Carter's Little Liver Pills. They explore other cultural references and idioms, such as "blood on the moon" and "I'll give you something to cry about," while inviting listeners to submit similar archaic phrases.

carter's little liver pills· geritol· alex jones· blood on the moon· idioms

23:29 He did not say, he said we have it's very difficult to measure. Yeah that was a complete malarkey. Malarkey yes! It goes on the word list. Do you want to do the word list? I'm sure you have plenty of suggestions and you want to save that for later. Let's save it because I don't have any of those screens up that have... A lot of people wrote in with some interesting stuff my favorite one I'll mention what it is which You have more of that than Carter has pills. Yes, that is a good one. Where does that come from? No I've never heard it but i saw the email go back and forth who was carter and why did he have pills well yes there was a very popular

24:07 Patent medicine that was...everyone used, it's like Geritol. I don't know what Geritol does? Geritol was an iron supplement in the 1950s and 60s that you take a couple spoons for when you're all be peppy because we weren't getting enough iron in our diet. That's my guess. Right. Carter's refers to Carter's Little Liver Pills. Oh! Nice. And there were these little pills and I guess they, I don't know what was in them... liver? I guess. I don't know. Yeah, castor oil or liver oil or something like that. Yeah probably liver oil because cod liver oil was extremely popular as the liver oil substitute because there is a... In fact if Alex Jones had been in business back then he would have been selling it. Yes. Infowars Cod Liver Oil

24:59 So, Carter's little liver pills I believe and I'm not sure we can look it up but they were very popular and everybody...and they were little pills. And so, I don't know how that phrase got into play? Somebody threw it into play probably some radio personality maybe. Well like I want to throw one at you then just because you gave us one I'll give you one. Have you ever heard the phrase there will be blood on the moon? Yes, I have. My parents would say that all Adam Curry Adam Clark Curry if my mom was really pissed Adam Clark Curry If you do that there will be blood on the moon and it sounded bad I don't know where it comes from Blood on the Moon is a phenomenon of an eclipse called blood on the moon And I'm not sure why that phrase got into play

25:50 But yeah, I've heard it. We didn't hear much apparently it was his mainstay at your place but... Yeah. ...I've heard it. Okay yeah well as we just progresses some people are coming up with weird ones that are just like never heard of and is in some part of England. Yeah. Cockney phrase. Yeah. We're looking for stuff like Carter's Little Liver Pills or more than Carter has pills kind Yeah, yeah. Things that are really cultural references to back in the day. That could make a comeback I think that's another item. Yes they could make a comeback. Tina gave me one... I'll give you something to cry about! That's one of my favorites. I guess she heard that a lot too. It was like why I oughta? Alright onward. Do you want to do something offbeat so we can listen

CHAPTER 06 / 39 Discussion

Ides of March, Rothschild Anniversaries and Fed Rate Hikes

The discussion turns to the significance of March 15, noting it as the Ides of March and the 100th anniversary of the Balfour Declaration involving the Rothschild family. The hosts highlight a scheduled Federal Reserve interest rate hike and the upcoming Dutch elections as potential catalysts for economic and political crisis.

ides of march· rothschild· federal reserve· interest rates· dutch election

26:50 No, but I kick what oh no. That's not here. I'm here. I make something keyboard ah You know I have some thoughts about your keyboard and I want to do that after the donation segment so remind me I Want to hear it now? No? I'm not gonna Do it now we've done a story already We're moving on and we need some clips All right, let's talk what's gonna happen on March 15th. Let's listen to this random podcaster that it pulled off down the internets Discussing some of the elements of March 15th which is next was the next Friday not the Ides of March Yeah It is the Ides of March it also happens to be they don't mention in this clip But they kind of show it on a video This is this March 15th will mark there something 100th anniversary Of The Bell for agreement a bunch of Rothschild stuff 500 year anniversary of this and

27:37 100 year anniversary of the Rothschilds taking over the world and one thing after another. So a lot of Rothschild action on March 15th along with Fed and all kinds of stuff, including that one little item I thought was interesting. That March 15 also happens to be the day that the Fed is going to insanely raise interest rates. Just the increase in rates and the dollar in the past week alone since this gamut has pushed precious metals down I mean, I don't even know why they're doing this. Are they trying to get back at Trump or what? But it's going to cause the economy which grew up 1.9% if you believe the Cook numbers in the fourth quarter and now it's down to 1.2 for the first quarter will probably be negative in second quarter. Theoretically like one of the longest expansions in history we have to have a recession at some point and if the Fed raises rates here its going to seal that doom so

28:26 That is a big event, those two events on that same day. Oh yeah it happens to be the day of the Dutch election as well which will get the ball rolling in these anti-Euro and anti EU populist movements in Europe. Of course the big one is France a month later so yeah I just you know we need... The key word is crisis Yeah. Huh? Well, we always say beware of the Ides of March. Yes, we do. And let me just break that down for a second. So I think the Fed rate hike is...I don't see that as a disruptive factor. I think that's been built in and everybody knows about it and everybody expects it. I don't see that as a disruptive factor. I think realtors getting in could change... Well, there's a lot to talk about the Netherlands but before we go there lets just talk for a second about stock market economy

CHAPTER 07 / 39 Discussion

Trump Economy, CNBC Market Coverage and Short Sellers

The hosts critique CNBC's coverage of the "Trump boom" in the stock market. They play a clip of Joe Kernan discussing the competence of business leaders like Wilbur Ross and Gary Cohn in the administration. Dvorak argues that CNBC maintains a permanent "bull market" bias and ignores the perspective of short sellers.

cnbc· joe kernan· stock market· trump boom· short selling

29:18 Mainly because I have two things, two clips here. Yeah let's talk about it because i've got a clip! Exactly well it's planned this is like we're flowing from one into the next back to CNBC and again this isn't part of the NBC family who are very anti-Trump they really don't like him very much But Joe Kernan the least and Joe Kernan should be careful if he likes his job because he's saying stuff like this So whether you love President Trump or your, you know still resisting or whatever it is You look at guys like icon or Wilbur Ross Or you know Gary Cohn or Richard Lafrak and you look at what we're trying to do

29:55 And I just don't see how you can come away saying, I feel like we might be in more competent hands that we've been in than when we had 8% of the private sector represented in the last administration. Would you make that same case? Yeah, I would agree with that 100%. You know, you've got people there who have been successful in business and the same things that make a successful business run with regard to having a vision getting the right people in place holding them accountable those work for any organization whether it's a nonprofit or government They're all liking what's going on in Washington. What show is this? That's on CNBC in the morning. Oh, CNBC... Well here are a couple of things you got to remember. CNBC is a go-go bull market oriented buy buy buy never sell never short they don't have a show on CNBC called The Shorts selling experts. The shorts it used be called the shorts. They don't have those guys and so because Trump has jacked up the market into the so called Trump boom which by the way is exactly what the shorts want to see

30:58 Oh yeah, well you do. Shorts want to see things completely out of control so they can get in high and ride it all the way down but the CNBC really hasn't...they have little snide remarks on some of the shows amongst themselves because the journalists that run some of the especially the opening bell or not the closing bell show and some of these other shows these aren't investors No, no this is retail. This is retail people who are just being played Hey go buy that okay? But a show like fast money is of professionals and it tends to have a little more objectivity than some of these other shows which have Trump hating liberal I Just have generalized yeah, but as a fact trump hating liberal journalists so we had another

CHAPTER 08 / 39 Discussion

Sean Spicer, Jobs Report and Presidential Humor

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer's handling of the February jobs report is examined. The hosts discuss the irony of Donald Trump accepting job numbers he previously called "phony" during the campaign. They suggest Spicer needs comedy writers to improve his "shtick," comparing him unfavorably to the polished delivery of Ronald Reagan.

sean spicer· jobs report· unemployment· jack welch· ronald reagan

31:46 Another economy-related issue, which was the jobs report. And I just want to remind us of a few of these numbers and why it's confusing and why sweaty Sean Spicer is not doing... He's funny but he's not doing a good job of explaining what's happening. So I think with the jobs number is 235 or 238 thousand new jobs that is a plus number we need at least 150 thousand just to stay equal month to month So that's a plus number. And of course, you can expect everyone to say, oh well that was because of Obama and then may even be fair doesn't matter but the problem here is twofold one do not equate it to the unemployment numbers he's Sean slipped in like Oh is 4.7% unemployment You cannot validate those numbers. You've said they were phony said they were bogus. You can't use them now that they're good That is not the number of jobs The number of new jobs is probably correct based on whatever metrics we have

32:39 But what everyone's referring to in this particular clip is that not just Trump, but Jack Welch. Just before the election if you recall they had a huge jobs number and everyone went like that's bogus! That's just to make it look good for the re-election process And then the next month they went back and said, oh we discounted. They had to take off almost all of those numbers do you recall? Oh yeah well they were doing that all throughout the election season But it was really blatant when you have That was a bad one that's when Jack Welch came out Yeah and then everyone called Jack Welch an old man Shut up go away! Jack Welch

33:20 So Sean Spicer got questions about this and the question was correct. Trump has called these numbers, and in this case it would be the number of jobs phony in the past Excellent opportunity to really explain something to the press, the media maybe to the American public if it ever gets through. But instead he made a joke which is also kind of funny. In the past the president has referred to particular job reports as phony or totally fiction does the president believe that this jobs report was accurate and a fair way to measure the economy? Yeah I talked to the president prior to this and he said quote him very clearly they may have been phony in the past but it's very real now

33:59 And everybody likes it. That actually is funny Yeah, it was funny yeah and he's getting kind of... He's a doofus but he's getting kinda funny. He's doing a little bit of stick here and there. You know what? He needs a writer! He needs a couple comedy writers in the back room. Good point that would be good for him I mean Reagan who's a Hollywood pro You know, you saw according to people that worked with him and it started every day with a new joke. Yeah yes yes yes yeah. It was a new joke and he had on staff a couple of writers because he worked in Hollywood he knows this you know it's a collaborative business unless your stand-up comic writing your own material constantly which is rare

CHAPTER 09 / 39 Discussion

Michael Flynn, Foreign Agent Registration and Turkey Lobbying

The segment covers the news that Michael Flynn retroactively registered as a foreign agent for $530,000 worth of lobbying work performed for Turkey during the 2016 campaign. The hosts discuss the White House's claim that President Trump was unaware of Flynn's specific ties until the recent filing.

michael flynn· turkey· lobbying· foreign agent· white house

34:42 You've hired a couple of joke writers and they get zingers all day. You could be hilarious as the president if you had a couple guys feeding you some material." Well, he certainly needed it in this next Q&A regarding Michael Flynn and I'm disappointed in this Flynn business man. I thought this guy was on the up-and-up now we have comes word that he registered after he resigned was fired etc., maybe he registered as a lobbyist for Turkey Because he had made $530,000 lobbying for Turkey while he was a part of the campaign. Yeah, this is no and that's why I had to register somebody gay said hey. No kidding register you get it You're gonna go to jail yeah, you can get in big trouble so sweaty Sean He doesn't know how to handle this one This week Flynn officially filed as a foreign agent for the work he did during the campaign And that's how the White House says the president learned of his work on Turkey's behalf Are you saying the president was not aware?

35:43 that until he filed. He didn't file till two days ago so therefore nobody would have known that because he hadn't filed as a foreign agent until two days ago. It's not pretty, but I think it is a real sentence. Still the White House acknowledges Flynn's lawyers told lawyers for the Trump transition team that he might need to register as a foreign agent But they insist Flynn never told Trump himself That may or may not be true

CHAPTER 10 / 39 Discussion

Recep Tayyip Erdogan, German-Turkish Relations and Dutch Riots

A major diplomatic spat erupts as Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan accuses German and Dutch officials of "Nazi practices" after they barred Turkish ministers from holding political rallies in their countries. The hosts describe riots in Rotterdam and the detention of a Turkish minister, noting Erdogan's upcoming referendum to expand his constitutional powers.

erdogan· turkey· germany· netherlands· rotterdam

36:38 Very, very bad. I'm guessing there's something... Well here is the problem! It's very fishy. No, no what the something is. The something is Turkey and we've been saying for years this is the problem This NATO member is a big problem They're funding crap in Syria These guys are up to no good They're now angry with everybody Germany Relations between Germany and Turkey are still far from friendly despite attempts by Berlin to lessen tensions In Ankara, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan urged Turkish voters living abroad not to be put off casting their ballots in the country's upcoming referendum despite so-called German led obstacles.

37:18 Those votes you cast will be the best response not just to all the countries in the West, but to all the countries in the world. God willing April 16th will be the day that my citizens who have been hindered in the West and around the world will also celebrate." Earlier, the foreign ministers of both countries met in Berlin in an attempt to defuse the diplomatic crisis which has culminated with Erdogan accusing German officials of Nazi practices Germany's Sigmar Gabriel said talks had been friendly and open, but also contentious and hard. I made it clear that equations of modern Germany with Nazi-Germany and attacks against democracy and justice are not acceptable. Turkey is angry that several rallies designed to encourage support among expats for the April referendum which will increase President Erdogan's power have been cancelled

38:08 On Wednesday evening, Turkish Foreign Minister Melvut Cağoşalı repeated the Nazi comparison from the country's consular residence in Hamburg. Erdogan has a referendum coming up in April, and the referendum gives him expanded powers constitutional powers. And of course his party wants this but it's going to put him... he already built a palace I mean this is he built it he's president but he builds an actual palace that he's living this thing is unbelievable take a look at it So he wants a referendum for expanded constitutional powers and the Germans, of course don't like this. The Dutch really don't like this and we got into a big problem last night late last night here's what was happening it is forbidden by Dutch law for any foreign politicians to come to the Netherlands and hold rallies etc for elections that are not in the country it's just a rule

39:12 Right, can I just interrupt for a second before you leave Germany completely and discuss this because i've been watching DW And I didn't get any of these clips, but this is exactly what they're talking about. What's happened in Germany and why they've been called Nazis is because they're having these huge Turkish rallies with these Turkish politicians who are coming into these giant venues with all these Turks because Germany is filled with Turks and they're giving these speeches and the German public... They've done two or three studies surveys and the German public is something like 80 to 6 against these things because they're interfering with commerce, they're causing a big headache. It's a mess with all these big rallies and so they put a stop to it and that's when they started being called their Nazis for not letting us do this. Exact same thing happened last night in The Netherlands

40:02 with the addition that there was a, I think the foreign minister from Turkey was not allowed to land in Rotterdam because they said hey you're not coming here. You can't do these speeches no it's not going to happen so she landed in Germany then drove up to the consulate in Rotterdam and she was refused access to Rotterdam by the authorities who said we're taking...I mean they..she was in her armored car they almost they were considering towing the car back to Germany she would not leave and then the Turks started rioting And there's a lot of Turks. The Turks were actually, you know pretty calm in the Netherlands. The Moroccans were bigger problem so now the Turks are riding it's a big mess and here is the report. Relations between Turkey and the Netherlands are on shaky ground amid a growing diplomatic spat over Turkish campaigning in Holland after the Dutch government barred Turkey's foreign minister from landing in Rotterdam

40:55 The row reached new levels late on Saturday night, when the Turkish family affairs minister was prevented from entering the consulate. Dutch broadcasters reported that Fatma Batulsay Akaya was detained before being escorted out of the country. She had travelled to Rotterdam from Germany after the Dutch authorities revoked landing rights for the foreign minister. She insisted on entering the consulate to address roughly 2,000 people who had gathered outside for a rally to support the constitutional reforms that would extend President Erdogan's powers. It is to be put to referendum vote in April. The latest developments follow a fiery war of words, with Erdogan branding the fellow NATO member a Nazi remnant for barring the foreign ministers' rally while the Dutch premier responded that the comments were crazy

41:44 The anger filtered down... I can just hear, this is totally crazy. This is just crazy we can't have that in our country no it's just crazy not going to happen Foreign ministers rally while the Dutch premier responded that the comments were crazy Crazy The anger filtered down to the streets of Rotterdam where riot police broke up protests outside of the Turkish consulate by force Yeah exact same thing oh you're Nazi holdovers And of course the reason for these giant rallies is to get people to send in their absentee ballots. Yes, exactly! There's a lot of Turks in Germany and I guess Holland too but it's... The whole thing is just extremely weird to me. Well not being reported is and I don't have an official translation but there's the video of Erdogan saying

42:37 Hey, maybe we should open up our borders. He's threatening with that again now Oh, maybe it was just flood everybody into your into in into Europe Hmm yeah And I told this guy is no good and now he's no good you know so what was Flynn doing with them? No That's no good well You don't know it might have been could have been counterintelligence for all you know if you don't really know If it had something to do with the Gulen and or something maybe Maybe I don't know but I just don't know No, and we're not gonna ever find out. Oh no probably not just that Flynn's a bad guy and goodbye Flynn Yeah, it well do I air to one this is not a good guy? No the guys terrible so as Gulan about all these guys They need some they used to have normal people run in that place anyway All right back in the day talking about yeah Just a little switcheroo here since you brought up Holland that always reminds me of bicycles yes

CHAPTER 11 / 39 Discussion

Shared Bicycle Programs, China and Dutch Bike Culture

The hosts discuss the "shared bike" trend in major Chinese cities and the resulting clutter of abandoned bicycles. They compare this to the informal "theft-based" bicycle system in Amsterdam and criticize the implementation of bike lanes in American cities like San Francisco and Austin, where high-end cycling gear is favored over utility.

bicycles· china· amsterdam· san francisco· bike lanes

43:37 And they have a new thing going on in China. I said in the newsletter it would be more international, yeah? They have a new shared bicycle action going on in China that is resulting... In other words if you go to Beijing and some of these other cities now there's these colorful bicycles just jump on one and take off And I think there's some place in Europe they may have this sort of thing. I think San Francisco... Adam Benson So you don't have to pay for them? Dr. Kahn No, well you're supposed to pay. I think it'll have to have a fee or some sort of a fee but there's no…I don't see any way of collecting the fee. Adam Benson Because we have bikes here in Austin that have rack and you gotta swipe your card and yeah. Dr. Kahn Well whatever the case they have, and I said that, they've been running into a problem because what happens is nobody gives a crap. They jump on a bike, they go here and just throw the bike in the bushes.

44:28 They throw the bike down wherever it is in the sidewalks. But they're making a huge mess, even though it's so idealistic. So let's play this clip. If you visit any of China's major cities this spring, you're sure to notice a myriad of colorful bikes going around your witness and China's growing shared bikes marketing action and as one that has really taken off in the past 12 months Users can jump on a random bike and for a small fee reach their destination before parking it appropriately for the next user. It certainly makes for a greener and cleaner environment but as our reporter Li Nan tells us from Shanghai, not everyone is happy with the new trend

45:08 The few weeks before the annual two sessions meeting in Beijing is always the busiest time of the year for MPC deputy Zhu Guoping. Serving just her second term in Congress, she says she's always keen to hear the views and insights from people in her district. And this year, the burgeoning shared bikes industry is on many people's minds. Many people park the shared bikes in our community, they occupy the parking space green areas even the passageways our community used to be clean and tidy but they're causing so much inconvenience Well... They are not doing it right there is only one way to do it and The Dutch have proven it Okay Everybody has a bike

45:52 Everybody's bike gets stolen. When your bike gets stolen, you just look at the bridge and steal someone else's bike that's how the system works. You use that bike, you don't lock it, you just put it against a bridge where destination, It'll probably get stolen if not your lucky, If you do, you steal another one! I don't think that applies to what the problem is here. They're talking about they just leaving these bikes all over the place, they don't have any one place to put them and they just throw them into the bushes, they throw them into the driveways, they put him on somebody's stair steps... How would that other model make that any different? They'd still be dropping these bikes everywhere. No no no! You put it where on the bridge everyone ties it up to the bridge or the lamppost

46:38 And you just lean it against the bridge of the lamppost. If it's still there when you come back, great otherwise you take a different one and it stays... It's all in the same place! They don't just dump them when they're done. It's a very odd system. No they have that system in China but they're still dumping these new bikes everywhere. Wow. At least that's the complaint I don't know if the culture matches that well? I don't think so at all The Dutch have a long history of wanting their bicycle back I didn't know that this was, they were stealing bikes left and right like that. Oh my god! Ask anyone from Amsterdam Yeah, my bike got stolen. So that's an interesting thing I don't want a good gal off the track on his bicycle thing But that reminds me of this great desire by you know people in the San Francisco Bay Area and less or so in Los Angeles but especially in the San Francisco Bay Area to be Amsterdam yeah And let's all have bikes yeah And they put these bicycle lanes in where we once had four lanes house two lanes into bicycle lanes and nobody uses exactly is what

47:39 If this model of using, of just stealing and non-stealing bikes and losing bikes and stealing bikes that wouldn't the difference is here these bikers that have to don't obey any laws they're trying to get all the laws changed now so you know they don't have to obey normal laws in other words. You don't stop at stop signs then kitty corner through a intersection when they feel like it They can do anything they want which is what they want to do They are trying to get new laws passed These bikes they're driving around, some of them cost like $1200. Oh yeah! They're not buying those junkers that they bike around in Holland, you know. It's got a little basket in front of it... Well also thank you for mentioning that! It is very difficult to buy a bicycle in the United States that is a utility bicycle. It's either a mountain bike or racing bike or what they call a cruiser which is just an dumb bike You need one with a big thing on the front and you can put your groceries in something on the back so you can carry your girlfriend on the back

48:36 That doesn't exist and I use the bike. Oh, that's dumb dumb No The bikes did you see in Holland when you're walking around Amsterdam can be hoping not to get plowed into by one of them They have they will they have all these a cooter months on Utilities it's a utility like an air clunky yeah No, we have to everyone know here you got the bike lane. The guy has got some twelve hundred two thousand twenty five hundred five thousand dollar bike he's wearing all the gear as though he's like sponsored by Adidas He's got all this stuff that helmet that it's got a bunch of labels all over It looks like a NASCAR driver and he's pumping his ass up to strut the road as fast as he can is always a professional Yeah Hey stop it We got a lot of that here a lot

CHAPTER 12 / 39 Discussion

Lewis Mumford, The Machine and Deep State Theory

John C. Dvorak recommends the works of Lewis Mumford to listeners, specifically his analysis of "The Machine." The hosts argue that the "Machine" is a more accurate term than the "Deep State" for the interconnected power of media and government.

lewis mumford· the machine· deep state· bibliography· books

49:26 Well, you got the guy started. You know we I think that a lot of people are talking about if I could just change topics talking about deep state and all these kinds of terms something that you said awhile ago I think just sticks with me and it's we just call it the machine because the machine is so much bigger than just the deep state It's the media. It's all the pieces that fit together in the machine is very very very powerful May not be possible to break the machine if anybody wants to read about the machine And it's just early discovery you want to read the books of Lewis Mumford yes

50:06 I ordered that book that you recommended. Well, there's...he did about...if you look at his bibliography he has done probably 20 books most of them about the machine and it is all fantastic but stuff in the 30s if you can read those until by 1950 he got up...he was very upset by World War II They are. So were a lot of people, they were there so insightful and they not taught anymore or nobody reads these books and I would recommend any no agenda listener to just start reading Mumford just casually go to a bookstore you find the hard copy hard cover copy in a used bookstore and it'll be a buck or two and just buy them when you see him again just read them all terrific right

CHAPTER 13 / 39 Discussion

Monica Crowley, Destabilization Campaign and Alien Organisms

Monica Crowley appears in a clip from Fox News describing herself as a "canary in the coal mine" regarding media attacks. She characterizes Donald Trump as an "alien organism" being rejected by the political body and warns of a coordinated campaign to destroy his presidency and associates like Michael Flynn and Jeff Sessions.

monica crowley· fox news· plagiarism· donald trump· bureaucracy

50:56 So Monica Crowley got munched by the machine, as we already discussed. There was a hit piece on her that she was a... Plagiarist! ...plagiarist thank you which turned out to not be true But in this little piece here, I can't remember if this was maybe might have been on Fox. In this little piece here she explains She really had explains what happened to her and I think she kind of gives a quick overview Of the machine and its power in some ways I was something of the Canary in the coal mine The attack on me was a test What happened to me? What happened to General Flynn what has happened to Attorney General Sessions and others is

51:35 is all of a piece. There is a very dangerous and very effective destabilization campaign underway against this president, his administration and his agenda. And what I hope that I hope that the president and his senior aides understand is that these forces are not just looking to delegitimize him. We often talk about that, sure they want to do that They want to personally destroy him Destroy his presidency and they would like to see the man in prison I hope that the president understands I am not overstating this having been a victim of this myself

52:10 They are out for blood and the reason they have to destroy him is that Donald Trump is an alien organism that has been injected into the body politic by the American people to reform it. He must not be allowed to succeed, they have swarmed him, they've swarmed everybody around him in order to reject him out of the system just like any alien organism he must not be allowed to succeed that everybody around him now understands that this is a war and that they started a long time ago, but they will not end until they get the president of the United States. So Canary in the coal mine kind of an old reference... I liked it! That was a great clip where'd you get that? Fox I believe. Well Fox is holding its own so play this then This is CNN, they had a guy who's

CHAPTER 14 / 39 Discussion

CNN Deep State Discussion, Illegally Elected Flub

The hosts highlight a segment on CNN where an analyst discusses the "Deep State" and the impact of intelligence leaks. They point out a specific verbal slip where the analyst appears to refer to Trump as the "illegally elected president" before correcting himself to "legally elected."

cnn· deep state· leaks· michael flynn· media bias

53:02 See I did a lot of it. I got some good CNN stuff by the way Yeah, see and this is the deep state State Convo is the name of the clip mm-hmm And It's a discussion between one other CNN international hosts and some guy who's there? CNN's one of the analysts that they have. And it's interesting because he makes this flub, that kind of like stands out to me and she didn't even notice it and she goes on under talking about the deep state. Well, the theory behind a deep states or a deep government if you will...and again you mentioned there was a New York Times article recently that discussed this

53:39 Take the United States, for example. The theory would go something along the lines of inside the U.S. government you have a group of federal employees who have organized themselves against the legally elected president of the United States Donald Trump because they don't like his policies and disagree with him on what they can gain in an election that are going to try undermine from within the government their favorite weapon, if you will. If you believe the theory would be the leaks that you were referring to previously But Stephen, we know that leaking is not new. We know the intelligence officers are apolitical so why are we seeing this level of leaking? Leaks that as you mentioned has resulted in the swift removal of Michael Flynn Well I'm not being a social scientist i haven't gone over the data and seen whether there has been an increase in leaks There's certainly been high impact of the leak

54:34 recently. I think Mike Flynn is a good example and again if you buy into the theory of the deep state, what would have happened there is the intelligence community would have leaked the information specifically with regard to Flynn being in touch with Russian Ambassador Kislyak in Washington and discussing with him perhaps the rollback of sanctions against Russia once the president was inaugurated. Now... He goes on and on, but the thing that got me was this little flub I don't know if you caught it? I did not

55:10 At the very beginning he says, the illegally elected president. The theory behind a deep state or a deep government if you will and again you mentioned there's a New York Times article recently that discussed this is take the United States for example. The theory would go something along the lines of inside the US government you have a group of federal employees who have organized themselves against the legally elected president. Yeah very good but maybe he was using that as an example that that's how they think Yeah, I'm sure that's what he was doing. Either way... The way it was presented to anyone just listening to it Oh yeah that horrible illegally elected... Right right Which is one of the little memes you want to get in there anyway because they're trying to pin everything on the Russians Now if you don't mind me playing a few more these CNN clips Of course! Go for it Uhh..I caught... I don't know if I can do this for much longer but I recorded the AM Joy Ah Joy Reid! Yeaaahhh

56:08 She is a superstar. Wait, but she's not CNN? She's MSNBC Yes she is I'm sorry I said CNN yeah okay But as if there was a big difference right? Right! She comes...she has a Saturday morning show which is probably viewed by nobody, but what she does and by the way I wanted just a little background to hear from people like who watch Joy Reid in fact that she always has David Korn her buddy on. Oh that's that's the guy with the focus report Mother Jones guy yes Yes now both of those people would joy read and David Korn amongst half dozen other MSNBC employees

CHAPTER 15 / 39 Discussion

Joy Reid, JournoList and WikiLeaks Russian Laundromat Claims

The hosts critique MSNBC's Joy Reid and her guest David Corn, noting their historical involvement in the "JournoList" email group. They play clips of Reid and Corn characterizing WikiLeaks as a "wholly owned subsidiary of Russian intelligence" and a "Russian laundromat" designed to benefit Donald Trump.

joy reid· msnbc· david corn· journolist· wikileaks

55:10 At the very beginning he says, the illegally elected president. The theory behind a deep state or a deep government if you will and again you mentioned there's a New York Times article recently that discussed this is take the United States for example. The theory would go something along the lines of inside the US government you have a group of federal employees who have organized themselves against the legally elected president. Yeah very good but maybe he was using that as an example that that's how they think Yeah, I'm sure that's what he was doing. Either way... The way it was presented to anyone just listening to it Oh yeah that horrible illegally elected... Right right Which is one of the little memes you want to get in there anyway because they're trying to pin everything on the Russians Now if you don't mind me playing a few more these CNN clips Of course! Go for it Uhh..I caught... I don't know if I can do this for much longer but I recorded the AM Joy Ah Joy Reid! Yeaaahhh

56:08 She is a superstar. Wait, but she's not CNN? She's MSNBC Yes she is I'm sorry I said CNN yeah okay But as if there was a big difference right? Right! She comes...she has a Saturday morning show which is probably viewed by nobody, but what she does and by the way I wanted just a little background to hear from people like who watch Joy Reid in fact that she always has David Korn her buddy on. Oh that's that's the guy with the focus report Mother Jones guy yes Yes now both of those people would joy read and David Korn amongst half dozen other MSNBC employees

56:52 We're all on, if you remember in 2007-2008 there was this discussion group called the Journalists. Yes of course yes and there was a big brouhaha about it It was a big brouhaha because they because if you looked at their emails they were conspiring to slant their coverage in favor of Barack Obama over Hillary and everybody else And so that's true and they're all stuffy about it Joy Reid was one of the journalists people and so is David Corn And so she has a lot of these people still from then the list is available you can type and it's J-O-U-R-N-O capital L-I-S-T. You can find the list of, I think there have been about 155 that have been identified in this talk

57:38 users group, newsgroup or whatever you want to call it. It was a list server I think. And so they were all going back and forth making these schemes and they're still doing it this thing has been reformed in various forms but there hasn't been is They've released a cache of documents damaging U.S. intelligence efforts, senior U.S. official briefed on the damage says it's going to make it harder to collect on terrorists, on the Russians, on the Chinese you name it at what point do we begin to just openly say listen Julian Assange is not some defender or freedom and transparency he's an anti-US anarchist pro Russia whatever you want to call him

58:34 Well, I think we start back on July 23rd when both I and Paul Krugman wrote an article in the New York Times calling WikiLeaks out. And on the same day, I made media statements calling them a Russian laundromat. These — WikiLeaks is no defender of transparency. They are wholly owned subsidiary of Russian intelligence. And they have no problem with that. releasing things in timed releases that benefit only two entities Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin so you know you're on to something when this guy yeah cook guys are excellent yeah then she's got him on she has the same usual people you don't see a lot show up on Saturday morning under an am joy right to the audience of I can imagine 50,000 I'm sure

59:26 I doubt it. It's got to have 50, yeah that'll fit. No no no i really don't think so. If you really could get the numbers it would probably be in the 30s or 40s...or asterisk which is actually a rating Joy Reid on WikiLeaks 2. There has never been a document released from Russian intelligence or anybody that's opposed to Julian Assange, but now 48 hours after Donald Trump makes an amazing stunning historic lie to the American public where he says that a former president of United States wiretapped him in the electoral campaign which we all know is not true

CHAPTER 16 / 39 Discussion

Dennis Kucinich, Congressional Wiretapping and FOIA Delays

Former Congressman Dennis Kucinich appears on Fox News to validate claims that "extracurricular surveillance" occurs in Washington. Kucinich reveals he was wiretapped in 2011 while in his congressional office and expresses frustration that his FOIA requests regarding the incident have remained unanswered for five years.

dennis kucinich· wiretapping· fox news· foia· surveillance

1:00:07 Wikileaks comes out and releases this giant tranche of documents showing how the CIA would have done it. This guy's going on to... Wait, hold on I want to mention one thing in reviewing the New York Times article that talked about the wiretapping but i wanted to mention that on the front page it actually used the words wiretapped It's subtle, it's a subtle piece of information but Trump was consistent in using the same verbiage that The New York Times used and I didn't really realize they'd use wiretapped. Interesting. Yeah. Well we'll just skip ahead

1:00:45 Because that guy was going on, we know it's not true. We know we do, we know it's not true here play Kucinich who came out on MSN I'm sorry came out on Fox to talk to Shannon Bream because he was really irked about this. Wanted get to another important story because you have now gone public with a situation You believe mirrors a little bit of what the president is saying has happened to him This allegation that there were some kind of wiretapping There are lot of investigations going on saying they're going to look into that You say something similar happened to you back in 2011. You say this, I can vouch for the fact that extracurricular surveillance does occur regardless of whether it is officially approved. I was wiretapped in 2011 after taking a phone call at my congressional office from a foreign leader. Why did you feel the need to speak out now?

1:01:29 Well, it's important because there are people who are saying about President Trump's claim oh it could never happen. Well frankly it happened to me and I had proof because the Washington Times actually let me listen into a tape that was made of conversation in my congressional office. It was a conversation between myself and a foreign leader, the conversation was approved and cleared by house attorneys who said yes you can do that. That's your constitutional right but someone had intercepted it and I learned about it two years after I left office members of congress ought to be aware that my experience was that my phone wasn't safe in a congressional office now if they can do that to a member of congress they can certainly do it to presidential candidate

1:02:11 and they can do it to private citizens as well. Hello America." It is a really intriguing story if people want to read the full account of how this unfolded for you, it's on foxnews.com on the opinion side They can read the piece that you wrote there but one thing I thought was interesting is you already had some Freedom Of Information Act requests FOIA request in When you found out about this and you were hopeful that maybe you would get a response to those documents, I think you filed back in 2012. That would shed some light on what actually happened who recorded this call how it got to the Washington Times Here you are five years later though no answers on those FOIA requests

1:02:55 Are you confident that this administration will get to the bottom of whether the president's assertion is right or not? Well, first of all, the FOIA requests have a stack this high Shannon. And I still have many other request from agents and intel agencies that have no been responded to despite then a member of Congress now former member yes i think this administration may be a little bit more sensitive to these questions about the potential for intelligence to be misused and for violations of the Constitution. A Fourth Amendment should provide all Americans with a right to privacy unless there's some criminal activity that is suspected, then you go through the courts so here we are it's a brave new world in America He's doing some good stuff our boy Kucinich he has always done good stuff yeah I agree he always has

CHAPTER 18 / 39 Discussion

Russian Moles, Trump Taxes and MSNBC Rhetoric

The hosts review clips from MSNBC where Joy Reid and guests discuss "purging saboteurs" and alleged connections between the Trump administration and Russia. They mock the suggestion that Trump's tax returns would contain explicit evidence of Russian intelligence payments.

hannity· joy reid· paul manafort· jared kushner· taxes

1:06:03 that she uses. She uses clips like we do. So she's got a, well let me finish so you've got Hannity up there talking about it and then she gets into condemning him and everybody in between and Trump and they're all stooges of the Russians. Time for the Trump administration to begin to purge these saboteurs before its too late. So Jack you have John Hannity telling them purge the saboteurs then you have Steve Kinkett on our air with Katie Turin saying purge the saboteurs Donald Trump's administration starts purging people they think are the saboteurs, I guess. Yeah, I'm more concerned about a Russian mole than I am about the deep state and we need to really look at what is going on here you look at the connections between the Russians and Paul Manafort there were connections between the Russians and Mike Flynn there were the connections between Sessions the connection between Kushner that list goes on

1:06:55 on and on and on. And our problem, of course is we have no idea about the connections between the president himself and the Russians because he won't release his taxes." What? Oh man! This is what an idiot... Yeah oh the taxes will show the Russian connection because I filled out all my Russian information on my tax form you know there's a- What do they expect to have a 1099 from the FSB That would be funny. Thank you. I guess so, I don't know what they're looking for I have a couple of really I got a couple of anti-russia clips that are pretty good Here's Chris Matthews on MSNBC Of course hardball now he's convinced that Donald Trump smile gives away the Russian connections and

CHAPTER 19 / 39 Discussion

Chris Matthews, CIA Hacking and Trump's Smile

Chris Matthews is featured in a clip expressing outrage over Donald Trump's refusal to criticize WikiLeaks following a CIA document dump. Matthews compares Trump's reaction to the "Mona Lisa" smile and questions the President's patriotic instincts, while the hosts note the American left's sudden reversal in supporting the CIA over Russia.

chris matthews· msnbc· cia· wikileaks· mona lisa

1:07:45 Just in the way he smiles. What? Yeah, just listen it's the guy is off his rocker Donald Trump brazenly refused to criticize the organization worked with Russia and telling the 2016 election in his favor Even as WikiLeaks released a trove of new documents stolen from the CIA that material which was acquired Stop the presses I have to just stop then said tell people something here having been A student at Berkeley and all the rest of it The left, including guys like this guy and everybody else. Rachel and everyone else all these MSNBCers All my life have been pro-Russia Yes And anti CIA Yes! All my life Oh the Russians oh they're misunderstood Oh you know Stalin's even a good guy All this has been going on What changed? Somehow the polarization of the universe flipped

1:08:41 I think it's when the Russians themselves eschewed, the old communist ideals. The commie ideals, exactly. The commie ideals and went with a kind of quasi-capitalist combo thing that they're doing now similar to the Chinese but not quite as efficient I think that's what it is but this is just beyond me...I'm sorry if I had interrupted you No, I agree! But start over You've certainly seen this much longer than I have And I agree though these guys got the right idea all the lefties were all into it Socialism, it was all there. No, it's not going to happen as now they're the enemy and smiling about it shows collusion Donald Trump brazenly refused to criticize the organization that worked with Russia until in the 2016 election in his favor Even as WikiLeaks released a trove of new documents stolen from the CIA That material which was acquired at a major security breach of this country's top spy agency threatens to reveal the CIA's digital hacking operation around the world which could compromise the CIA's ability to get information

1:09:43 But when asked to comment today, President Trump smiled and said nothing. And now, with this big document dump and the information flowing out about the CIA and its operations, its ability to hack into people's systems. He is taking that weird smile refusing to criticize. What does a smile mean? I'm going to use it in Mona Lisa. What kind of weird smile? It's so cute! I think he likes to pretend he has information that other people don't have but you know what? The intelligence community probably has more information than he does unless they can show them.

1:10:28 But you know what, the intelligence community has probably more information than he does. So unless he can show the information that he's basing this on I'm not sure what that smile is about. I wonder about Trumps patriotic instincts don't you? Here was today given a chance to say something about a foreign group trying to undercut the US government in the world and he gives us the smile with Cheshire Cags What do you make of that smile? Is he the Mona Lisa enjoying a little secret of hers. Does he think it makes him cool to be enjoying the way, The group that helped get him elected is now helping itself to undermine our government's intelligence capability. Geez! I know...I just kind of liked how it was going off Now we have on NPR couple reports. NPR always nice to hear the NPR sound.

CHAPTER 20 / 39 Discussion

Mark Warner, Cyber Warfare and French Election Interference

Senator Mark Warner discusses the "new danger" of Russian misinformation on NPR. He claims the Russians are currently using financial resources to influence the French presidential election in favor of Marine Le Pen and argues that Russian manipulation of the US election is a unique threat regardless of proven collusion.

mark warner· npr· cyber warfare· marine le pen· russia

1:11:12 Top Democrat Mark Warner provides us here with an update on the Russia-Trump investigation and how far reaching these damn Russkies are. Let's say that there is no evidence found of collusion between Americans and Russians, no Russian money entering the campaign, and no Russian blackmail against any candidate Is the fact that Russia tries to influence US policy, not in those criminal ways but more generally if it tries to influence policy however it can is that some kind of new danger or even a danger that's unique to Russia? It is absolutely a new danger. I mean...

1:11:50 The Russians have almost created a new theory of war that says, beyond fighting in the land air and sea cyber is a whole new domain. And they are experts at misinformation disinformation. They've done this for a long time in Eastern European elections sometimes much more obviously with old-fashioned payola and bribes. They're doing it right now in the French presidential elections, where they've actually put financial resources behind Marie Le Pen's far right candidates campaign. So I think Americans... One of the things that disappointed me – and I know there was lots going on – is that there wasn't more general outrage with the Russian manipulation in our election regardless of whether there was any contacts between candidates."

1:12:36 Yeah, I guess so. And the Russians are now influencing the French election! That was gonna happen... About you know finding anything you can do to kind of blame the Russians because a trump Connecting the two and whatever I got the biggest kick out of this story Which is is me. This is the clip This will be the Trump just called that, you know We have the Trump boom for the stock market for this travel industry It's called the Trump slump although

CHAPTER 21 / 39 Discussion

Travel Industry, Trump Slump and Russian Search Data

The hosts examine reports of a "Trump Slump" in the US travel industry following the travel ban. They analyze data from the site Hopper showing a decrease in flight searches from most countries, with the notable exception of Russia, where searches for travel to the US reportedly jumped 54%.

travel ban· hopper· emirates airlines· russia· tourism

1:13:13 Although, it hasn't really resulted in anything except they're basing all this on Google searches. As airport protests erupted in January in response to President Trump's first travel ban the Global Business Travelers Association reported 185 million dollars in lost bookings to the US Emirates Airlines said the pace of its bookings to the U.S fell 35 percent and New York City just lowered its 2017 travel forecast by 300,000 international visitors the first drop since 2008's recession We saw a really big dip and we've not fully recovered Patrick Suri from the travel site Hopper says airfare searches to the United States dropped in 102 of 122 countries since Mr Trump's inauguration

1:13:58 China is off nearly 46% Saudi Arabia down 35 Ireland dropped 32 and Mexico is down 23 percent a notable exception travel searches from Russia jumped 54% Yeah, travel searches versus actual travel. That's not really a very good metric Jumped it jumped 50%. So we're gonna have much of ruskies over here nice does it? Uh, Pelosi. Fixing the elections they're gonna come over here to rig the elections Of course that's what they do Damn it Those guys are horrible I'm telling you

CHAPTER 22 / 39 Discussion

Nancy Pelosi, James Clapper and the Botox Leak

Nancy Pelosi is criticized for her performance on "Meet the Press," where she struggled to respond to James Clapper's statement that there was no evidence of collusion. The hosts mock her verbal stumbles and suggest she is becoming an embarrassment to the Democratic Party.

nancy pelosi· james clapper· meet the press· russia· collusion

1:14:35 Pelosi answers the question. Hey, Clapper said there was no collusion! There was no evidence! What is that about? What are you gonna do?! On Sunday's meet and press President Obama's Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said that for the agencies he oversaw CIA FDI and NSA to his knowledge there was no evidence of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and Russians Do you agree with Clapper Well, it's not he saw about to his now. We haven't had the investigation Wait wait what did she say? She says telling he's telling that too, but let me just say I'm gonna see what she says there on campaign and a Russian do you agree with? Well, it's not he's talking about to his knob we haven't had shoes. He didn't finish the sentence He's telling that to his and then she didn't finish the sentence. I don't know what she was going to say

1:15:26 But she didn't say it. No, she did not. He's talking about his... We haven't had the investigation that we need to have and that's what we're saying is follow the facts. Follow the facts! So I also heard him say there was any reason to believe that President Obama was tapping Donald Trump. Did she say Joe-bama? I don't just listen to the clip. Sorry, but tapping well now I got to listen to it if you said Joe Bama or heard him say that he didn't think there was any reason to believe that the president President Obama was tapping Donald Trump like Joe Bob. He was tapping Donald Trump whoops what we're saying is follow the facts and we think of evidence that shows for sure that the Russians were disruptive of our election

1:16:21 Follow the facts to your personal, political and financial connection to Russia. Follow the facts! You know I'm listening more...I think they're drugging her or something Something's up with this It's the Botox it's leaking And the one they're trying to get in I'm starting to know you watch enough of this stuff especially on these stupid news networks and the same names keep cropping up I mean McCain Lindsey Graham On the uh...and then once in a while Peter King But on the Democrat side, they have her a lot. But the guy they keep bringing in is this Adam Schiff from Southern California. He's ground zero of all this. Yeah he is the guy that are going to push to take over something or other because Pelosi has lost it. She's an embarrassment to the party! Yes she is. Alright last one here...

CHAPTER 23 / 39 Discussion

RT International, Russian Propaganda Virus and Congressional Hearings

The hosts play an RT International report covering a US House Committee hearing where Russian media was described as a "virus." RT defends itself against claims that it coordinated with WikiLeaks, pointing out factual errors in the testimony of US officials regarding the timing of tweets and document releases.

rt· propaganda· house committee on foreign affairs· wikileaks· sputnik

1:17:19 This is a nice RT report. Of course, RT has to respond to some of this somehow and this is mainly about you know this consistent accusation that Russia is just the biggest propagandist and they...you know..of course we don't do any of that We don't have Voice of America or any of that. And we don't have the Broadcast Board of Governors... And what's funny about it, we are still the world leaders. We're the best! And they make it sound as though Russia can even compete with us? Are you nuts?! We put in our popular culture. We put right into the shows. You know, and not just… Just an aside, I think we had a clip from someone this is about a year or two ago, a guy who had penetrated the FSB and he was

1:18:01 He was over in the US as a mole and he stayed here. He quit the Russians and nobody cared." He says, he never saw anything in such disarray because they're unorganized. They do a pretty mediocre job once in awhile. I mean remember The Redhead? The hot Russian spy? Oh yes of course! This whole thing is just nonsense. Of course well anyway Russia is the worst and uh...of course they respond appropriately And with a little bit from Guyane. Hello, welcome you're watching RT International now there is a Russian propaganda virus according to an advisor speaking to the US House Committee on Foreign Affairs Russia and this channel RT has been accused of a misinformation campaign that quote attempts to undermine and discredit Western democratic institutions we start to view Russian propaganda as

1:18:52 like a virus. To stop this virus, we should treat it like one so curing those who may have been exposed defending people re-educating citizens to protect themselves and others and disarming it or finding a vaccine US lawmakers and the expert witnesses that they invited to testify before Congress claimed that Russian propaganda, in which they include this channel RT is an affront to democracy. Apparently in Mr Duran's view which many lawmakers at that hearing seems to share share, everybody who does not think like them needs to be cured. They said people need to be protected from Russian disinformation. How do you that? Maybe for starters listening to the distinguished panelists.

1:19:40 The coordination of the two tactics was exposed several times during the US presidential campaign when RT or Sputnik ran a story based on hacked material hours before the material was posted on Wikileaks. Even Russian spies make mistakes." Except Mr Baer's statement itself was disinformation. WikiLeaks published the material on their website, which RT caught very quickly and tweeted about it and then came the WikiLeak tweet. The fact is that the material itself was published on the Wikileaks website before RT tweeted about it. This was easy to verify, so the statement that former U.S. official Daniel Baird made there was false and at the hearing it went unchallenged. By the way lawmakers and panelists kept saying Russian disinformation without giving specific examples. The other thing that sounded like disinformation

1:20:26 members of Congress widely speculating about the infamous anti-Trump dossier, which no official body has verified. And that so-called dossier is full of incendiary completely unsubstantiated accusations." So my takeaway from the hearing was that the lawmakers and the panelists cried disinformation while spreading disinformation themselves. And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C where this E stands for commies used to be loved by the left Dvorak

CHAPTER 24 / 39 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Knighting Ceremony and Donations

The hosts conduct the first production value segment, thanking executive producers and associate executive producers for Episode 911. They perform a knighting ceremony for Sir Tyler Oglesby and Sir Simon of Jefferson, discuss a magnetic knife strip product from a donor, and address technical credits for the No Agenda search site.

knighting· peerage· donations· wordpress· march madness

1:21:15 In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet near subs in the water All the dames and knights out there in the morning to everybody in the chat room no agenda stream calm good to see y'all here And the numbers we like to see and especially in the morning too The one only Nick the rat nick back with the artwork for episode 9 or 1 0 coin of the realm and he had actually it was a nice reference to the heat of the meat which was the No Agenda in the, you know, the flaming meat underneath it with a 33 degree thermometer sticking in. It very nice. Yeah. Very nice piece by dimensional. So I always like to describe no agenda art generator dot com is where you can upload that we can show your wares everybody where we can pick from it right after the show and use it for newsletters and other things. And also of course uh the guys at the NOAgenda shop use it for some of their schwag

1:22:08 So thank you Nick. Thank you all of our artists no agenda art generator calm I'd like to thank a few people for this producing executive producing and associate executive producing show 9-11 Tyler Oglesby came in with the instant night amount of 1033.33. He's somewhere in Texas, bonus time has come around and here is your cut! Please de-douche me and knight me as Sir Tyler Oglesby Paladin of the Permian I look forward to that! You've been dedouched Let me practice sir Tyler Oglesby Paladin of the Permian Okay got it

1:22:51 Simon Foden, somewhere in the USA. 911.11 and he has sent a note in by email which I have here somewhere. Greetings John and Adam from Plumas County in the someday state of Jefferson which is Northern California combined with parts of Southern Oregon. And you go drive through there they have big sign saying welcome to Jefferson Thank you for your courage. I once worked for an Emeryville startup with a large poster of John hanging from the ceiling, uh...I'm sorry to report they were not successful and vaguely remember Adam's appearances on tech TV those were the days. I was never on Tech TV No he was never on Tech TV He was on Cranky Geeks Those were the days but now technology is boring And nothing has made it more boring than the digital empowerment

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1:32:13 Go figure, racing is in my blood. Also no one seems to notice show 900 was on the 33rd day of the year. Well it's a little late to tell us now but okay could have boosted it. No karma give him a karma yeah of course you've got karma So that'll be the executive producers, associate exec... what? No I said that's it. Yeah! Associate Executive Producers and Executive Producers for show 9-11 with some big ones so we want to thank everybody for helping us out here on this particular show Very nice another correction of sorts and a proper credit I incorrectly said that it was the original Noah Jenna Search producer had brought the site back up

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1:34:23 No, all you mean for the brackets. You know, as long as anyone doing it can't pick these things to Warren Buffett offers a million dollars to anyone who can pick all these things accurately because he knows no one's ever done it and everyone ever can do it because there's always some screwball upset or some team doesn't perform well is that wanted to problem is with these sports? I think personally I would push the thing back into double elimination with less teams Because the double elimination tournament at least gives you a shot it now. It's just single elimination Which means you lose one game? You're out of the tournament even though if could be some guy it could be a fluke It could be a lot of different reasons double elimination is the way all tournaments should be I think it should be single-payer Devorak dot org slash n The thing to do today is go out there propagate our f***ing can Our formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth

1:35:28 Damn it shut up. Hey, yes alrighty then see where we're at Oh You know the congressional record there was someone sent me a copy I should read that more often and you know they have Written do you still have a guy in Denver? That was supposed to read it for us. It's just bailed because they have a lot of transcripts of conversations that not necessarily on C-SPAN or reported properly. Well, they also include the... I'd like to put this in the record they will say at the event and it could be something interesting and it goes into the congressional record but they never say it on this on the floor well this was

CHAPTER 25 / 39 Discussion

Awan Brothers, Congressional IT Scandal and Debbie Wasserman Schultz

The hosts detail a scandal involving the Awan brothers, who served as IT administrators for dozens of House Democrats. They discuss allegations of data theft, equipment overcharging, and a bizarre family hostage situation, questioning why mainstream outlets like the New York Times have not given the story more coverage.

awan brothers· debbie wasserman schultz· pakistan· it· capitol police

1:36:15 Let me see, when did this... This was published on March 10th so this is very recent. And this is about the IT crew that was hired by Debbie Wasserman Schultz and was in there apparently up to no good in the Democratic congressional systems? Oh right! Yes yes. Yeah so there's quite an interesting little bit that was discussed here. So this is the Awan brothers Imran Awan, Abid Awan and Jamal Awan all from Pakistan. And now suspected in collusion with their father to be Pakistani intelligence at best. And there's a...and I put an actual PDF of the congressional record in the show notes 911.noagendanotes.com you can take a look at it for yourself as highlighted these guys were making almost three times than normal salary

1:37:11 of this position, which is always kind of a giveaway and that's mentioned in the record here. They were over $160,000 plus but also they serviced I think it was they service 30 different offices of congressional Democrats 20 of those offices also suffered burglaries break-ins. That may have been part of a crime ring? Yeah so talk about running...I'm reading verbatim here talk about running the Democratic House members computer networks Days before the US Capitol Police told House members three Pakistani brothers who ran their computer networks may have stolen congressional data, their stepmother called Fairfax County Virginia police to say these guys were keeping her from her husband's deathbed. She was being kept hostage. A relative described a situation as being kept in captivity by the brothers for months while they schemed to take their father's life insurance."

1:38:07 The brothers, as IT professionals computer experts for Congress also read House members emails had full access to their calendars who they're meeting with where they were meeting and allegedly used wiretapping devices on their own stepmother and threatened to abduct loved ones in Pakistan if she didn't give them access to money that was stowed away. It was a big mess. A big mess! This is a great story I'm stunned The New York Times, the WAPO. One of the networks haven't picked this up I mean this is good stuff just to get the kind of thing that gets your ratings. I think so too and you know it's brothers Wait a minute wait my but it's stepping on Debbie Wasserman Schultz's reputation and we don't want to do that It would be harmful Yeah we can't do that That would be wrong No instead why don't you go jump in a lake or go fly a kite There ya'go There some antique phrases for ya

1:39:00 Go jump in the lake, yeah that's a classic. If your friends told you to jump off of bridge would you? Yeah would you right right right no it's if they jumped off a bridge would you jump off a bridge Right I think is the way it goes well that's terrible and no one's really doing any reporting Apparently not. But what's interesting... You brought it up, I never heard this but I knew about the guys because we talked about them on this show before and they did come up in the conversation early on and on PBS I think Now you remember the guy who was doing that where's George whatever his name is? The Clinton Foundation CEO Right He's doing these YouTube videos so he's on this as well And he has- he ties us into all kinds of things including

1:39:47 The attorney who was just fired by Trump, Farish or whatever his name is. Oh that guy in New York? Right. They made a big stink I mean this does not unusual situation those particular... Well the unusual thing is they asked him to stay and then they asked him to go From my understanding, but I think this may that it's poorly reported But it's possible But they asked them all to go all the all of the Obama appointees which is what you do Because there they serve at the pleasure of president. Yeah And so this one guy decides no I'm staying and so okay You're fired yeah Which is fine? But then the media oh-oh They fired this guy as part of a purge but there's an insinuation that

1:40:29 It was discovered that somehow that guy is involved with the Awan brothers. I have not figured out the connection enough yet to... Well, that would be a good one maybe some of the lawyers that can have access to certain documents might want to give us a hand? Could be could be well The Awan Brothers Yeah or you could just say The Awan Brotherhood That might sound even better They are Muslim and they're from Pakistan yeah well i don't think muslims are supposed to be criminals Yeah, some sort of a violation there. Yes I'm something with that on us All right Let's go to Korea Oh good idea

CHAPTER 26 / 39 Discussion

Park Geun-hye, South Korean Impeachment and Samsung Bribery

The Constitutional Court of South Korea unanimously upholds the impeachment of President Park Geun-hye. The hosts discuss her removal from office following a corruption scandal involving her confidante Choi Soon-sil and bribery allegations against the head of Samsung.

park geun-hye· south korea· impeachment· samsung· seoul

1:41:14 Let's update the ouster. Yes of the president the first female president by all male judges The guy got rid of her in South Korea President Park Geun-hye was officially ousted today By the nation's highest court chief foreign affairs correspondent Margaret Warner has that story The Constitutional Court's verdict announced in Seoul was unanimous. Upholding the impeachment of South Korea's President Park, it removed her from office a stunning fall from power. Streets overflowed with demonstrators many celebrating the ouster of the country's first female leader

1:41:58 The people gave her the power to serve, but she filled her own pocket, disrupted social order and undermined democracy. Others protested the verdict saying Park's removal leaves South Korea at risk. We should be thankful for President Park for protecting our nation. Young people these days don't know that it has only been 67 years since the Korean War erupted we can soon see another similar tragedy happen Two people died during today's protests and at least 30 were hurt. All of this follows Park's suspension from office in December Now she may face criminal charges of conspiring to let childhood friend Chae Soon-Shil meddle in state affairs and extort money from businesses including Samsung whose own chief is now on trial for bribery

1:42:49 I read somewhere it was an iffy report. The report goes on and on, but by the way this is annoying that...I don't know maybe i'm wrong but the translators all called her Park P-A-R-K which is what it is in... I don't know why she keeps saying pack. But okay. I think Boston. I heard unconfirmed that B52 bombers were sent to the region? I haven't heard of them yet. Well, it could be a mess. But we have a there's already right now there's already a bunch of this is what dawned on me with the

CHAPTER 27 / 39 Discussion

Global Instability, Media Machine and Feel-Good Endings

The hosts argue that global actors like North Korea and China are taking advantage of the perceived disarray in the US, which they claim is exaggerated by the "media machine." They also mock the formulaic "feel-good" stories and forced laughter used by network news anchors at the end of broadcasts.

media machine· global politics· north korea· china· news anchors

1:43:29 the psyche of how the media has portrayed what's going on in the United States being total disarray. And, of course if you look at any news report in the EU which I can read many of them it is just parroting everything and saying oh its a mess somethings crazy probably get arrested thrown out impeached blah to me it seems like everyone taking advantage of this situation Erdogan taking advantage of it North Korea taking advantage of it even China...everyone's... European Army come on You know, I think it's...I think people are making moves just based on the US media. Yes! That is the feeling that I have. Our media is obviously working for the machine It IS the machine. It is part of us yeah. It's the spokes hole of our media So when you watch ABC, NBC and CBS, your watching a group of people putting us at risk Yeah, I feel that way often yes. It's misreporting poor reporting lies

1:44:29 and fake news, which is not even really part of the problem to me. Well, it's just a slanted aspect of it I mean CBS... It starts with anti-Trump stuff ends with anti Trump stuff once in awhile there's a feel good story actually at the very end there's a feel good story some point so Scott Pelley can actually smile and kind of laugh yeah he and they do that day into every day actually all networks have decided to do a very, CBS does it ABC does it. A feel good story at the end and that's got kind of a punchline to it and then they cut back to the anchor all of them do this And the guy he's got a big smile on his face He's kinda... Well that'll be it for today so this will close the news for today oh-oh-oh! And again laughing in voice as he closes the news I just find it annoying It is

CHAPTER 28 / 39 Discussion

Maxine Waters, Trump Impeachment and the Steele Dossier

Congresswoman Maxine Waters is featured in a clip insisting that Donald Trump should be impeached based on the Steele Dossier. The hosts discuss a letter from Senator Chuck Grassley questioning why the CIA reportedly paid for research that was intended to dig up dirt for the Democratic Party.

maxine waters· impeachment· steele dossier· chuck grassley· gchq

1:45:27 That's great. That's so funny. Woohoo! Yes, indeed it is. Let me see... Ah well this just has to be played because she always just gives me so much joy. All right? This would have to be Maxine Waters with this there's got to be a clip once or show from Maxine Waters We need we need a jingle for her A little songlet is what I'd like though A little song. Very short, a short song. A song that would kind of show how much we really appreciate her being in our life You think that Donald Trump should be impeached over Russia and anything else any other discussion distracts us from that investigation you still hold true to that?

1:46:10 Yes, we're going to understand the role that this administration has played during the campaign with Russia. And when we see that he certainly will be eligible for impeachment Do you believe anything about that dossier? I think it should be taken a look at. We already know that the part about the coverage they have on him with sex actions is supposed to be true, they've said that's absolutely true How are we all going to find out what is and isn't true? Does it help you think so because unless you have information that we don't

1:46:49 That's an allegation. But you understand that I am saying the investigations must be done? I don't think you can do the impeachment just because, I think or others think but i think that if we do the investigations then we will find connections and I do think uh... that impeachment will be necessary Yeah, yes that's right. That is right. She says the sex tape- the sex actions is real from the dossier There was a question I think it was Grassley sent to a note

1:47:30 Was it the CIA? Maybe it was to a number of intelligence agencies, but specifically asking why CIA paid GCHQ for this report from this guy who now confirmed at least in this document and this letter sent from Grassley that he was doing counterintelligence research for the Democrats on Trump or whatever. Counter... What is the term I'm looking for? Goin' gel probe? No no no no. for the election. He was digging up dirt for the Democrats, which we already uncovered... But he started by I think the original contractor was Jeb Bush That's not what that letter says though The letter says he was doing it for the Democrats and why CIA paid money for that report

CHAPTER 29 / 39 Discussion

CNN Cannibalism Special, Reza Aslan and Hindu Sects

CNN and presenter Reza Aslan face international backlash after a segment on the show "Believer" showed Aslan eating part of a human brain with a Hindu sect in India. The hosts mock the "Cannibal News Network" and play a critique from media analyst Lionel regarding the sensationalist nature of the report.

cnn· reza aslan· cannibalism· india· aghori

1:48:17 Oh, that's a good point. Yeah, that would call for somebody to be called on the carpet. There is another old phrase... Call on the carpet! Where does that come from? Do people have to lay down on the carpet? Grovel? Maybe. You know, kow-tow? Yeah, it was a good one Hold on the carpet. Okay, let's go to the funny story of the day about The Cannibal News Network. I had this clipped a couple shows ago and it didn't fit so i'm glad you did it. I'm interested to hear your take on this. Now I have this...I've divided up into three parts including a rant by Lionel but uh you can leave that part off if you don't like it but This is The Cannibal News Network. This is covered by RT

1:49:03 This is about one of the, I guess it was a package Don. It was more than a package... It was a half hour special I think. Yeah it's a special about Hindu cannibals on CNN CNN and this guy, one of their top guys goes over there and he eats brain and does a bunch about stupid stuff. Now a travel show on CNN has caused global shockwaves after presenter and religious scholar Reza Aslan ate part for human brain on camera. Aslan was in India meeting members at the Hindu sect called the Aghori After sampling the brain he described it as burnt to crisp and tasting like

1:49:43 charcoal. Well the show called Believer triggered a storm online with reactions ranging from dark humor to outrage some branded CNN, the cannibal news network and others objected to the way Risa Aslan portrayed religion Now so now the next clip which is part two is just their reading of the annoyed tweets So it's gonna you're gonna hear a bunch of tweet reads reads here from Pauling. Maybe everyone should try cannibalism start a new delicacy for the rich Is it just me or does anybody else have a problem with eating? What was most likely a murdered person was that a woman a child pure evil

1:50:21 You're pretty gross, even if this is just a harebrained publicity stunt. I'd give you peace of my mind but for the risk you'll probably just eat it In a post on Facebook, Quresh Aslam responded to concerns that he was misrepresenting Hinduism but surprisingly he had nothing to say about the cannibalism. We asked media analyst Lionel for his opinion Oh boy...Lionel...you want to hear this? This is Lionel It's probably B plus for him because he has done better and by the way just as I accurately predicted zombies would be the trend Cannibals is the new trend

1:50:59 There's no doubt that cannibals is the new zombie. Okay, it makes sense and the brain eating actually fits right into it as the transition Yes! Exactly and we need that for our depression era Yeah yeah eat your babies Are we living in an asylum? And you and I Or perhaps maybe we've been so attuned and so conditioned by insanity that maybe this isn't insane anymore? When they had to approve this with the news director, did they say what are you going to do. Well in the first segment in the A block were gonna eat consume human brain but I'm gonna drink blood from a skull and then have ashes of dead incinerated humans rubbed on me.

1:51:45 Okay, sounds good to me. I mean somebody signed off on this and in a weird way because i tend to be a little conspiratorial...I'm sorry it's my nature but something tells me that somebody in some higher echelon of CNN is thankful That somebody's noticing CNN, and not for the usual reasons. Granted it's universal disgust and revulsion—and I will say this again—this man, this intrepid reporter will forever be known as risking his life and limb having

CHAPTER 30 / 39 Discussion

Planned Parenthood Funding, Medicaid and the Vagina Argument

The hosts deconstruct the debate over defunding Planned Parenthood within the American Health Care Act. They analyze a heated exchange between Tucker Carlson and a Planned Parenthood board member, criticizing the use of "genitalia-based" arguments and discussing the fungibility of federal funds in relation to abortion services.

planned parenthood· abortion· medicaid· tucker carlson· birth control

1:52:23 Humani jesta hurled at him, drinking from skulls. And what do we do? We castigate him! The only man ever to produce a story from CNN that's worth watching... That's mildly interesting. Sanjay Gupta, eat your heart out or your brain out in this particular case. He's done better but it's okay. That's another old phrase, eat your heart out and where does that come from I don't know. That's a good one to try it at the bottom of... I had a long discussion with Tina on Saturday based on some more work about the American Health Care Act, which of course we only have the first portion that's in and this force first portion aims squarely at doing something that Republicans want to do for man maybe 15 years at least defund Planned Parenthood

1:53:19 That's all they want to do. And I just wanted to talk about it briefly, first of all when they say defunding Planned Parenthood the only thing that is being defunded is money that's being sent to the states. The states are the ones that actually fund Planned Parenthood through Medicaid. It's not like a big cash check like 500 million dollars oh here you go Planned Parenthood no that's not how it works and in fact most of that is through Medicaid reimbursements And what the Affordable Health... no, what the American Healthcare Act says, paraphrasing is it's okay. We're happy to use this half a billion dollars to fund any health clinic for women services but we don't want an abortion in there and the word that's being used continuously is fungible money Money is fungible

1:54:15 Meaning that... Yeah, so if you have a non-profit like Planned Parenthood and you receive these reimbursements or money however it comes in your job is to say well we don't spend that money on abortions because that is not legal in the United States. To reiterate medical procedure abortion medical procedure is legal in the United States not legal issues federal funds for state funds can be used for by the way depending on what the state wants So that's the number one portion. And if you want to move, I mean when you have money in the bank account moving it around is very simple be able to have it cover or not cover or like make make it look like it's not covering the abortion procedure so what they've said is all we want is take that piece out and will continue to fund you and anyone who wants according to Planned Parenthood themselves

1:55:07 They say the actual procedures that are abortion are only 3 to 5% of everything they do. It seems, I don't know if that may or may not be true it doesn't really matter so what... I see this as a and you can finish but i see this is kind of like who's got the bigger dick? Two people that are making a fuss Oversee, you know I'm gonna. No well i'm gonna stand firm well i'm gonna stand firm no i'm going to stand firm and they've been the like you said it's just as still is a lot of wordage a lot of uh I don't know It's just pot a lot of posturing it seems to me for political purposes Anyway, I think it's all political purposes but really its ideology And before I play this clip The argument is not really about

1:56:00 abortions about the procedure. It can't be because it's legal, the argument is about who pays for it and the assertion from Planned Parenthood is we need to pay for it and I think that at the other side of ideological argument take religion out of it is what about responsibility? The same thing for providing well there are two things there's anti-conception So condoms, the diaphragm there's multiple ways then you have... Otherwise known as birth control. Well I think it all fits under birth control but under birth control to me

1:56:42 falls the abortion because you're controlling the birth. It's not supposed to come out now I really thought about this a lot because of course Lee yeah, what is being said is Women who are poor cannot afford any of these services for family planning and the part? I don't like at all it's really only about who's going to pay for so you get pregnant and you want to remove this pregnancy or The thinking is, oh the government needs to pay for that. The second part of the argument is what's being classified as access and that's another misnomer and women will say I don't want the government cutting off my access to these services And I just want to explain what that means

1:57:28 The access is, it's really completely a red herring. In Texas as a great example for safety reasons and no woman I've spoken to disagrees with this if you want to have an abortion clinic you can but you have to have standing with the hospital uh... and that you have to have rights to go into the hospital should something go wrong and it has to be within 30 minute drive from the clinic I think everyone kind of agrees that's a good idea. The real problem is the hospitals refuse to give those rights, we've talked about it before they refused to give those rights and no one is discussing that actual issue. That's where the access has been cut off not because we want safer clinics which everyone agrees with but hospitals are saying now we're not going to give you access we don't want the bad PR and they should be held accountable for that

1:58:13 Going back to it, it's about who pays for it. And I personally feel people need to take some responsibility and if things go wrong well then you know You probably have to pay for it and you can make your own decisions what you're going to give up the pay for it Listening to the ideological argument One of the board members of Planned Parenthood, Jamou Green went on Tucker Carlson that to defend the idea that Planned Parenthood should not just have to do the 95% of the services, but they should do all of them. They did not want to give up the abortion and Carlson asked correctly if you have 95 percent of your very important services which are claimed to be mammograms all kinds of things I don't think that mammogram is actually...they don't actually do those. No they don't do those cancer screenings all these ninety-five percent he's saying just for arguments sake

1:59:08 Why not say okay, we'll take that and then that 5% of abortion services you can raise that privately I'll do it. I'll put money into that if they already get a lot of money privately anyway Yeah Oh yeah And I will mention that the 500 million is only about 40 percent Of all of the money but then again son of money so they could spin it off there's all kinds of ways to Do that? But the idea The ideals don't allow for that and it always evolves back into men are assholes. It is the law that taxpayer dollars do not fund abortion, now its the law for a reason because we as country consider abortion just like any other medical procedure I'm not contesting its legality, I am aware of what Roe v Wade says

1:59:52 I'm merely asking you the same question for the third time, which is if Planned Parenthood services are so vital—it's non-abortion related services. Why wouldn't…what is the attachment to abortion? Why doesn't Planned Parenthood just say we do so many great things and let other people provide the abortions and if you're interested in supporting that then donate money to those groups? Why will they not let go? What other people? Tucker seriously! Let's look at because of Planned Parenthood and the services they provide and education that they provide in communities even in schools. intended to answer my question are you down? Are down. Why is it, answer this question Tucker why is that you were so against big government on every issue except for when it comes to my uterus and my vagina can you imagine if the government says let's legislate your penis that is not ever going to be allowed by you or any of your male counterparts. Can I just stop here for a second So somehow

2:00:51 How she got into Congress being in her uterus and her vagina, it just doesn't... It's not applicable to the situation. And to say what if Congress regulated your penis? Well let me tell you my penis is regulated I can't hang it out in public You have a point There are tons of things that you can do with your penis You can't rub it up against someone or bump into somebody accidentally There are lots of things that you can't do with the penis! That's because of government It's just illegal My penis is legislated. Carlson didn't catch that. No

2:01:28 But all men are kind of flat-footed when they're thrown out. But I'm a little tired of the, you men! You'll never do...you men are regulating... No we're not! There's no evidence of it It's about who wants to pay for it That's all And you want the money from the government to do it Just be fair and honest And it is time that we get past this issue These talking points are decades old and not very bright Can we get back to the issue of Planned Parenthood funding? If you could just slow down the jermide a bit I'm going to ask you for that, and give up after. It's the fourth time you're saying the Planned Parenthood does all these great things The federal government is saying we'll continue to fund those great things But were really worried about the abortion part because almost half of the country thinks it's murderous Its not about genitalia its about distinct human beings No your actually wrong on that And guess what? Abortion is also a critical legal medical procedure Is he supposed to stop this show and guess? I would have

2:02:26 I would have stopped you. All right, I'm ready for it. Let me guess? Ask Adam here we go. And guess what abortion is also a critical legal medical procedure so let's talk about the domino effect wait you take abortions away then what Because life is actually more complex than you want to talk about in this situation. Their tax dollars are not paying for abortions. You know what their tax dollars are paying for? They're paying for low-income women, to be able to go into a health center in the community that has no other health center available to them within hundreds of miles so that they

2:03:06 can get a breast cancer screening. Oh really? A mammogram? How many mammograms do they get? STD screening. Wait, wait, stop! Stop! This is not all our women this is men also. Are they giving a lot of mammograms at Planned Parenthood how many do you think last year they gave I actually, I don't have that exact number. Tucker did they? It's a question for you on the board of it not me! Let's be honest with your audience. Do you not have the answer Jimu? I'm trying to get an answer from you. So here is the sick thing about it because this how the discussion goes that poor women, that it's a perpetuating cycle. That poor women get into this cycle of just getting pregnant and then it messes up everything although you do get money per child etc I still believe

2:03:58 Really, and just in all the evidence that's laid out before me that the ultimate goal of Planned Parenthood is to make sure that—and again look at what's happening. We have automated trucks coming along that'll be millions of truck drivers out of business. We have robotics it's going to put a lot of people out of business. Uh, but you think that the McDonald's is going to be for people anymore? No. I'm sure that'll be all automated. So we're gonna have a lot of people who just don't fit in the workplace anymore and in my mind, we still have the elites and I will put Ms Richardson at the top of the elite list. Was it was that Richardson there? No, that wasn't her no. Oh okay. She's she's the CEO. I will put up there with the elites they still want to protect themselves by killing off the poor baby

2:04:42 babies of poor people. They just don't want the population to expand in that area." It still feels like a eugenics program to me. Yeah, well I think a lot of people feel the same exact way you do. Yeah so again just so you know this is not about men hating women not about access it's about who's going to pay for it that's all And it's your state who actually determines that, ultimately not the federal government. And under Title 10 is where that can't be used but all the Medicare stuff... All of that is totally legal so that's a state issue right there. It was very tiring to hear this constant my vagina your penis argument. That is Medicaid you were referring to not Medicare? Medicaid I'm sorry yes Medicaid

2:05:30 A common mistake. Yes, all right well I'm glad you made that point adam at curry calm if anybody has anything to say and i love it i Love hearing about i'd love once again to a debate. Well. I'm very interested well I thought he's a you know i am more that we played tucker people who? who stand up to him in a funny kind of way that is very rigid. Because he tries to entrap the guests, I think they're going to get more this sort of thing and it's gonna ruin the show. Oh yeah...I think it's limited too. I agree. And I don't think you can maintain this style of interviewing? No. And just gonna end with just a bunch of you know just.. That wasn't very good! It's gonna be duds. I agree. It's gonna wind up being duds. You know what I think- Before I forget

CHAPTER 31 / 39 Discussion

Julian Assange, WikiLeaks Press Conference and Speech Coaching

Julian Assange holds a press conference regarding the CIA document release, which the hosts criticize for its poor audio quality and Assange's slow speaking style. They experiment with increasing the playback speed of his voice and discuss his defensive response to a question from ABC's Brian Ross about Russian funding.

julian assange· wikileaks· brian ross· rt· speech coach

2:06:20 I need to congratulate Ancilla, the pirate party in the Netherlands. Looks like she's going to get one seat and it would be her." Well she's gonna get in Parliament! Yeah so we'll have boots on the ground She won't ever...she'll never talk to us again. I've seen this before they get in they move up the ladder next thing you know Before you know it yeah We're the little people you know those bozos I'm sorry I don't do podcasts anymore Oops whoa what happened? That clip sucked. I didn't do anything there, just hit a button. It was just the gods of podcasting! Sorry, I don't know what happened there. You don't even play that that much... Let's go with a couple of Assange things. Yes, good idea. This is Assange gave a press conference and there are a couple things I pulled from it

2:07:16 Try this one. I think this is that part of it, I'm not sure why do you have the Brian Ross question which i thought was worth playing? Oh okay now I know where I am I decided to clip Assange and try to do something about him. And what I mean by, do something about him? He stinks! Oh he's a horrible speaker, horrible public speaker. You can barely play his clips for good reason and here is the good reason In fact I didn't clip him for that very reason. Don't blame you this is Assange This is little bit that he does on his press conference This is the regular version, this is Assange regular and get impression here.

2:07:54 a number of attacks on our lawyers and on even this the various forms of streaming hardware that we use to create these press conferences. Our secure systems are all fine but this streaming system is insecure because it's for the public, they went down and We have some work around for... He has his ability to da-da-da-da-da. Yeah, it's so boring! And not only that but you can't really clip his stuff So you can't like take the pauses out because they're all through

2:08:34 And then it sounds terrible. So I decided, well let's see maybe I can do a tempo switch on him. I could run him through the processing. Okay? I can move the tempo up which is not speeding him up but doesn't change his voice just makes them talk faster and C and I decided cranked it way up to 80% which is outrageous. That is quite a bit yeah. Here's what it sounds like. There has been a number of attacks players and on even this various forms of streaming hardware that we use to create these performances. Secure systems, they will find that the streaming system is insecure because it's for the public no way down." You know what? It's just as interesting! It's terrible so that doesn't work now I don't know what you can do so i just gave up I mean I was playing with some other mechanisms that might help but it can't be done So we're gonna have to accept the fact that were never going to have many clips from him

2:09:32 From his press concert where Brian Ross wrote in a question that kind of offended him and I thought this would be at least worth listening to. Brian Ross from ABC, Mr Assange have you ever been paid by the Russian government or state funded outlet RT? The answer is no but quite interesting to see that ABC taking that line. This is the largest publication of Central Intelligence Agency documents, number one enormous journalistic scoop about all sorts of things that affect journalists in almost every individual within the United States and many other countries about In some sense the future of what it means to be a state

2:10:19 Where is the border between one state and another? Borders are created by sea and land, but borders are also created by one army meeting another army and then making a truce. That's where borders come from on the internet there's no borders And if there's something like... I fell asleep He sounds like he's talking to a kindergartner It's horrible Yeah. It's sad, really he just... Why not get that cute girl Sarah? What's her name his girlfriend who was in Berlin why don't we get her to do it? How about him going to a speech coach or something Here is my great idea for him Take singing lessons learn how to sing and then go to a speech coach because then you'll have some understanding of pace and tempo because he has got none He talks in funny

CHAPTER 32 / 39 Discussion

Raqqa Offensive, US Boots on the Ground and Yemen Raid

The hosts discuss the deployment of US Marines and Rangers to Syria for an upcoming offensive on the ISIS capital of Raqqa. They also review a report on a botched raid in Yemen, noting that the military commander took responsibility for civilian deaths while claiming valuable intelligence was gathered.

raqqa· isis· marines· syria· yemen

2:11:17 That's not as good as the clip earlier with you right now all of these All of these reports and the hacking, it seems a big distraction from some pretty big moves that are going on. CNN I think was Brolf and Barbra Starr who tell us what our boots on the ground are doing. Mosul is one thing but Raqqa is this capital and truly symbolic place for ISIS Yes, it's the de facto capital of the Islamic State according to US officials Max. There are somewhere between three and four thousand ISIS fighters in that city however we are hearing that many of the ISIS leaders are starting to flee as the pressure builds on that city now The Marines who have been deployed

2:12:11 Syria. They are there in addition to Rangers who are currently operating in the town of Manbij which is about 85 kilometers northwest of Raqqa, the Marines are part of an artillery unit they are bringing M777 howitzers which have a range of about 20 miles or 32 kilometers and the plan is that they will take part in the eventual assault on Raqqa. Now, it's a very complicated situation on the ground where you have U.S.-backed Kurdish and Arab forces part of the so-called Syrian Democratic Forces, the SDF, and then further to the west you have Turkish backed Syrian members of the Free Syrian Army they also seem to have their eyes on Raqqa as well when this battle

2:13:05 This offensive against ISIS in Raqqa is going to take place, it's not altogether clear. We're hearing from Washington and Pentagon officials are talking about weeks away. You have to keep in mind that if this offensive is going to begin, it needs to begin soon before temperatures in that part of Syria really start to get quite high and will be very difficult to carry on with a sustained offensive In that area. Yes, the fighting season is almost over and I don't know why I thought this was brawl from Barbara Starr But what's happening is stuff? That's really not being reported on we have boots on the ground and there's an offensive and they're real in their front lines Rangers and Marines come on man This is not what is going on Is this Trump doing his I'm gonna tell you and just do it You're gonna have like some huge thing or gonna annihilate those about half this so I don't think so either

2:13:59 However, we did get a report from the commander who was at the botched Yemen raid which you will also not hear because it kind of goes against the blaming it all on Trump. There are new developments tonight in the US raid on Al-Qaeda. Here's Brolf. Qaeda and Yemen that left a U.S Navy SEAL dead our Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr is working this story for us. Barbara, the commander of the raids speaking out what are you learning? What are you learning? between four and twelve civilians on the ground were killed including children he said he took responsibility for that they'll never know exactly how many they can't verify if they are not there on the ground by hundreds and he said

2:15:01 valuable intelligence. Sources are telling us the military is still working its way through that intelligence, some of it cyberintelligence, electronic intelligence trying to see what they can learn to conduct even more raids in Yemen. Wolf? You're also getting Barbara some new details on the hundreds of U.S soldiers and Marines on the ground in Syria explain what you're learning More troops, Wolf. What kind of an interview is this? Explain what you're learning! Tell us what you know! That's just Brolf man... Can you talk about that?! Hey man don't harsh his mellow it's Brolf! Well that's a reiteration of what they already talked about let's stay in Yemen. Thank you very much so how can we be on the ground in Yemen do we have some congressional war approval or something no that's a question that's not even asked

CHAPTER 33 / 39 Discussion

Yemen Famine, Saudi Airstrikes and Kurdish Security Operations

The UN warns of a looming famine in Yemen caused by a naval blockade and ongoing airstrikes. Additionally, the UN Human Rights Office accuses Turkey of widespread killings and neighborhood destruction in Kurdish regions, which the Turkish government labels as "security operations."

yemen· saudi arabia· genocide· kurds· turkey

2:15:54 No, the Yemen thing is out of control. In fact my Yemen update includes the UN investigations which and I also have the same thing for Turkey but the complaining going on in the U.N about what's going on in Yemen it outrageous that this a massacre of some sort against the Yemenese people. ...in need humanitarian assistance The UN says the naval blockade imposed at the moment on Yemen has put the nation on the brink of famine They also added that every 10 minutes one child under the age of 5 dies in the country. For 2017, the humanitarian community requires 2.1 billion US dollars to reach 12 million people with life-saving assistance and protection in Yemen Only 6% of that funding has been received so far I spoke with families who have become displaced to Aden as their homes were destroyed by airstrikes living in a destroyed school

2:16:51 All of them told me three things. They are hungry and sick, and they need peace so they can return home." Now we need some details on what's going on this is really irritating It has been going too long it looks like a genocide to me And were behind it...and the Brits! ...And the Saudis The Saudis are the front men Well the Saudis that were doing for the Saudis aren't we? No, the Saudis are doing it for us. They're the ones flying jets. Why do we want... why are we doing this? Well it's never been fully explained meanwhile another un.. like you said the other story is not being discussed by the mainstream how about this one? This one targeting Turkey

2:17:35 And they're massacred. They're massacring the Kurds behind everyone's back and the UN is trying to get involved to stop it, this is an interesting report. Human Rights Office accused Turkey today of widespread killings and other abuses mostly against minority Kurds. Investigators said roughly 2,000 people died during security operations in southeastern Turkey over... I love that! Security operations? You died during a security operation. It's for your security." Eighteen months, the UN told of entire neighborhoods destroyed displacing several hundred thousand people in Geneva A UN spokesman said Turkey is hindering a thorough investigation It appears that not a single suspect was apprehended and not a single individual was prosecuted For violations that occurred during this period

2:18:24 The government of Turkey has repeatedly failed to grant us access but has nevertheless contested the veracity of the very serious allegations made in this report. The Turkish government says that 800 of the dead were troops and that many others were Kurdish rebels Oh man, I get very tired of this Yeah Especially with tax day coming up I don't want my money going into this I really despise this That's where most of it goes Before we take a break John I'd like to ask you a few questions and just see if i have this right. Now, I've been to your house once since we've done the show and I've never seen your office slash studio We joke about it all the time The piles and everything Yeah But you wouldn't actually didn't allow me to go see it No no And I'm not quite sure why It's my private space My private space Your safe space I understand Safe is my safe space now but in talking through this

CHAPTER 34 / 39 Discussion

Dvorak's Studio Setup, Chaise Lounge and Trackpoints

Adam Curry attempts to guess the details of John C. Dvorak's home studio setup based on years of clues. He envisions Dvorak reclining in a chaise lounge with a keyboard on his lap and a large screen at his feet, while Dvorak clarifies his use of a trackpoint and promises to provide photos of the workspace.

studio· chaise lounge· trackpoint· mouse· 3d movie

2:19:23 I think i've actually put together enough clues to understand exactly what your setup is and I want to see if I'm right. Go! Okay, the clues come from years of analysis this is actually years The first thing is the spreadsheet so you have issues with the spreadsheet scrolling You have issue with your keyboard losing your keyboard Wait a minute bear with me okay? I know exactly what the set up is And that's really what clicked for me. I said, oh wait a minute he is missing his keyboard so you're not sitting at a desk because you don't put the keyboard on the ground if you are sitting at a desk So i'm going to first presume that your laying down in a chaise

2:20:08 Is this correct? No. Okay, well... But I'll tell you this is something you're close! Let me complete my picture and then i want you to respond. Now we know you don't use headphones either We also know that you don't have a regular monitor You have a huge uh what is it 60 inch screen no no no no It's just a big screen. So here's how here's how I envision it You're in your chaise, you're laid back. You've got the keyboard on your lap and it has a trackball This is why you have issues with the spreadsheet because the trackball's not a great way to scroll a spreadsheet That's why you print out your clip list cause you don't actually want to watch at the TV that's suspended in air by your feet With the speakers with my voice on either side And just laying back chilling and like oh I'll just put the keyboard on the ground Of course there's lots of stuff What you need really is you need a keyboard pocket on your chaise

2:20:59 And I'm thinking this is a product we could make, the John C. Dvorak podcast chaise lounge. Well since nobody buys it chaise lounge anymore or let alone knows what one is which should be on the list of word list It's good, you know I do lean back a lot of times and I pull the mic and I'm kind of like leaning back in a chair. A comfy chair uh-huh And then that's why again, I don't need the headphones. I don't need all this other stuff The keyboard yes the keyboard did it's not quite a desk. It's like a workspace I could put the keyboard up there, but I don't see the problem with the keyboards. I like to keep it on my lap right when you're laying when your reclined in your chaise yeah, and we're kind a little bit so I need a key and it's not a trackball It's a track

2:21:48 a track point. What is the difference? No, actually I don't use the track point on this keyboard. I use an actual mouse so i have to actually get forward like I am now and I have to be by this screen. I got my mouse in my hand...I don't like that! I'd rather have a trackpoint. I use trackpoints most of the time And um yeah.. I dunno. Here's what I'm gonna do Over the next couple of months I'm going to make a 3D movie or at least some photos depending on what... It's more likely to happen. Yes, probably Of the office and you can see exactly where it is. Really? Okay Yeah, I'll do that Alternatively, I was thinking maybe you're just suspended in a sex swing or something

CHAPTER 35 / 39 Discussion

Final Donations, Title Changes and Peerage Map

The hosts complete the donation segment, acknowledging contributors under $100 and announcing major title changes. Sir Duane Melanson is elevated to Grand Duke of the Pacific Northwest, and Sir Mark Borghese becomes the Baron of Las Vegas.

donations· peerage· grand duke· las vegas· knighting

2:22:31 No, that's the other guy you're talking about. Oh John. Sorry Well we do have some people to thank for show 9-11 and if I can find the keyboard let's see there he goes If I find the keyboard which is on the floor, I will start scrolling. Starting with Samuel Liechtenstein in New York City 12345 and then we have the Fairbanks fat biker 10101 and I have a note from him but it's not the note that here it is. The note says dear John and Adam been a long time since my last donation he wants some karma for his new business

2:23:28 And a birthday, oh yes you need to put him on the birthday call. Oh well good because we don't have any so I was almost not going to have a son. There you go! You got one guy who gets the birthday call out okay and now... The thing is that he made a... You need to give me the details because iIdon't have that in front of me obviously. You just got it do it again. Happy Birthday To The Fairbanks Fat Biker. Sit no date no nothing okay? So he sent me in with this donation a wallet Handmade wallet, a beautiful handmade wallet using it looks like I think either Potato chip bags or some sort of crap that's got a luminized ice cream bag or something along those lines all sewn together. He says this is like, you know it's like a Faraday cage only if you took this out and took something out of it and gave it to him, paid something with his wallet, he'd definitely get some attention

2:24:30 But it looks like, you know, you paid nothing for it. Although they might be expensive very well nicely sewn Giacomo Jim Frimmel I guess in Mountain View 91 11 these are a 9111 guys He's also wants to deduce she got to put a deducing at the end for all these guys and I'll do that and a right Carma jobs karma yep John Stambaugh in Enid, Oklahoma. 9111s all 9111s Sir Ryan Bemrose and Everett Washington he says I'm not overboard just thought it work suit-and-tie guy in Peoria Illinois and that's it for our 911s okay now we have ninety one tens which is really what the donation was about sir Christoph they can tanker us

2:25:20 from parts unknown, Ned Jeffrey in Durrell New South Wales. Richard Futter in London England Brad Doherty in Brooklyn New York Baroness Monica Lansing in Drayton Valley Alberta Hans Jacquez in Hollywood Florida home of the dog racing Richard Riley A.K.A., Sir Slot Car, I think I've talked about dog racing before on the show... We still own slotcars.com. Dog racing is not the same. Brian Herziger in Omaha, Nebraska. Melissa Hodges...I believe this is Dame Melissa Hodges? Part's unknown. Sir Craig Porter in Council Bluffs, Iowa. These are good ones. This a lot of good list here. Yeah great! Sir Brashear of Tennessee Patrick Coble our buddy and also in Tennessee

2:26:17 Jeffrey Kelly in Arnold, Missouri. Sir Herb Lamb... By the way, Jeffrey Kelley's the end of the 9110s. Now we go on to Sir Herb Lamb Boob and Thomas in Frankfurt, Delaware or Deutschland is Frankfurt, Deutschland. Okay, so boobs. Sir Selvain Knight-in-Exile 7777 Sierra and Christopher Walker 6969. Sir Jeff Yerke over in, he's in Seattle I believe. No no he is over in Concord California or around here somewhere 6789 Caleb Watts in Warner, one of my favorite town names Warner Robins Georgia

2:27:02 6421, Corey Burr in Columbus Ohio 5510 Devil Nichols on the dime. Mohamed Issa 5150 do name Mohammed that's who that is right a Jesse Nolet in Arlington Texas starts our $50 donors are gonna name place and location for 50 For 50, Richard Gardner. Parts Unknown. Sir Richard Gardiner. Oh yes sir Richard Gardiner. Beaumont Proudfoot in New South Wales. Eric Von Marder 50 and Kirsten Gleb 50 these came in as pop money

2:27:39 Sir Paul from Horseheads, 50 came in as a check. And Kyle Meyer in Atlanta Georgia is our last contributor at $50 he's in Atlanta Georgia. I wanna thank all these folks for helping us on show 9-11 that was good group of folk. Yeah and thank you because of course the number the numerology for today's donations was chosen by the producers themselves we don't make that up Right. So the 9-11 is a great, great amount really appreciate it and of course thank you and appreciate everybody who came in under $50 which is typically for reasons of anonymity but also a lot of subscriptions that you can take part in because we don't take any commercial

2:28:19 or corporate money. It's only from you, you determine how it goes and we have another show coming up on Thursday! Devorak dot org slash N A Required deduces You've been de-duced And some jobs karma Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma Boom that was short. Oh titles first

2:29:06 That's right, we have title changes today for Sir Duane Melanthon who becomes a member of a very small select group. He becomes the Grand Duke of the Pacific Northwest! We could not be happier and prouder and that will be reflected on the peerage map itm.im slash peerage. Sir Duane Melanthon thank you so much It is just unbelievable what you've done in support for the program. It's appreciated So to sir Mark Borghese who becomes Baron of Las Vegas You too, sir We appreciate all that you've done for our program and that your a shining example Of what can be done? And then we have three nightings today John so let's get out the blades Blades did you need a scabbard on your chaise I do a chaise scabbard That would be the way to go yeah

2:29:56 Do you have it? All right. I'm pulling on it. Mark Montgomery and Simon Foden, please join us here at the podium on either side of the lectern is fine as we are here to officially welcome you to The Roundtable with no agenda nights and days because of your support in the best podcast of universe of amount of $1,000 or more And I hear my proudly pronounce Katie sir Tyler Oglesby paladin of the Permian Sir mark Montgomery Yes, the table is filled with all the goodies that you knights and dames deserve. Go to noagenitination.com slash rings and let Eric the Shill know where we can send it

2:30:53 And of course I need to do this for the 9-11 donors. WTC7 won't go away! Everybody needs a reminder of that. And you want to go over some words right now? I've got all these emails up... Yeah, let's do this it's good idea Okay Now we're talking about this project, this Inoagenta Project which will be to isolate some of these old phrases and wordages that might be...that could make a comeback. Yes, on bumper stickers… And so far on the show we've just talked about eat your heart out more than Carter's has pills called on the carpet and sounds like a broken record is what I put in last. Ah! That's a real old one that it well may come back with the resurgence of vinyl but doubtful Well you know records even though during the era of them mean it was the 78s

CHAPTER 36 / 39 Discussion

Archaic Word List, Bafflegab and Fiddlesticks

The hosts review a list of archaic words and phrases submitted by listeners, including "bafflegab," "skedaddle," "highfalutin," and "shiver my timbers." They discuss which phrases are worth reviving and which are "racist" or "Britishisms" that should be excluded from the project.

bafflegab· fiddlesticks· skedaddle· shinola· idioms

2:29:56 Do you have it? All right. I'm pulling on it. Mark Montgomery and Simon Foden, please join us here at the podium on either side of the lectern is fine as we are here to officially welcome you to The Roundtable with no agenda nights and days because of your support in the best podcast of universe of amount of $1,000 or more And I hear my proudly pronounce Katie sir Tyler Oglesby paladin of the Permian Sir mark Montgomery Yes, the table is filled with all the goodies that you knights and dames deserve. Go to noagenitination.com slash rings and let Eric the Shill know where we can send it

2:30:53 And of course I need to do this for the 9-11 donors. WTC7 won't go away! Everybody needs a reminder of that. And you want to go over some words right now? I've got all these emails up... Yeah, let's do this it's good idea Okay Now we're talking about this project, this Inoagenta Project which will be to isolate some of these old phrases and wordages that might be...that could make a comeback. Yes, on bumper stickers… And so far on the show we've just talked about eat your heart out more than Carter's has pills called on the carpet and sounds like a broken record is what I put in last. Ah! That's a real old one that it well may come back with the resurgence of vinyl but doubtful Well you know records even though during the era of them mean it was the 78s

2:31:43 And it was always a scratched record. It wasn't a broken record, eh... You're right! The 78s and my parents had a big stack of them I remember and if they weren't completely aligned you picked up a stack of 78's it would go like this and all the edges would break off in one go Yeah. Not good. 78s were breakable yeah you could actually break one So let's take a look at just a couple different guys who've written us now we'll go over them one by one starting with Kyle My grandpa always says you couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

2:32:20 E.g., did you see Obama throw the first pitch of the Nationalist game? He couldn't hit the broad side of a barn." I don't know, is that lost? I've not heard this a lot. You've heard it though right? Yeah well I don't know if it's lost or was really ever that big. Okay I'll put it on there anyway. During the Coin to the Realm speech Dave Bozeman says... This is an interesting one. I read this and said I never heard this has got to be an East Coast thing When I was in high school, junior high or high school...junior high in the late 60s and 70s. They used to call the richer powerful people the 400's. By the time I was in college, I never heard it again and your podcast made me curious." He says that apparently refers to New York socialite Carolyn Astor

2:33:07 And her summer college cottage in Newport where a ballroom could only hold 400. Hmm So I guess people ridiculed that no, I know it Oh my cottage oh we're gonna beat the cottage we could only hold only holds for 100 only four hundred So that never, I don't know if it ever caught on. Britishism from Ian Fleming's Casino Royale quote is from... Ian Fleming not Eon. I said I'm never gonna lose that one this came from Chris Sundberg in Mercer Island. Quote he told the driver to stop directly as they were off the main road. I think that's just a phrase of the Britishers Yeah that doesn't count Don't put that on the list That's out

2:33:48 Here's another one from Greg Davies. The word is bafflegab, bafflegab. Have you ever heard this? It's another Britishism. No I don't know it. Okay this is not going in... Did we put fiddle sticks on the list? We didn't put it on the list but it should go on there. Fiddle sticks are appropriate. Yeah fiddlesticks yes for sure And what were fiddlesticks? Well that's another issue This is a go to from Jared. He says, this is a good one... wet my whistle." Yeah that's a good one I haven't heard that in a long time sure you know what your whistle yeah now Kyle and from parts unknown this is he says here are some words uttered by my mother and her kin that resided in Arkansas Missouri which be Ozark country yes and

2:34:42 It'd be dad burn it, dad blast it, dad gum it. Tarnation is a good one Ah, Fiddlesticks. Nimrod. Crimony... this one here I have a Crimony. Crimony is what it-I think he's got a T in there but you've heard of Crimony? No. I have. Hissy Fit Pussy Footin'. Highfalutin' Shinola Skidaddle. Skidaddle is good one That's a good one Cotton Pickin' Minute. Cotton pickin', that's when I had on the list man that's racist I don't know, is it? Oh of course. Keep your cotton picking hands off of me as i think how its used would mean hey black person don't touch me right right right i'm sure it's racist racists racist racist coochie hogwash frog wash i've never heard of that no

2:35:35 Gizzards? No. It's a piece of chicken. Uh, cattywumpus I've heard that. No, not cattywumpus no i've never heard that one. You never heard cattywumpus? No! No, no... I'm young John. I'm a young man. I'm a young man. No, well yeah maybe uh wackadoodle Yeah that still used. I say wackadoodle. I have never seen it used but this one here I think Blotto belongs in there blotto. Well blotto yeah definitely blotto let me write that down. And this one, which is a great one is Hankarin. Hankarin yeah. These are all kind of Southernisms I think he's caught here from this area but that was the best list so far there's one from Tom Bushey two words for you in the jabroni and jamoke vein. Hanayoc and Chumbalon. Chumbalony or chambalony? I don't know never heard either one of these never heard these

2:36:34 Uh, from Nicole. Uh, you can bet your bottom dollar and not until they scrape the bottom of the barrel, scrape the bottom of the barrel. Yeah, that's a good one. And then this one which I don't know if it really is a true winner or not shiver my timbers. Yeah sure. Shiver me Timbers. Yeah but that's, you know, sounds like just he has a link to shiver my timbers which apparently is on the uh, Wikipedia shiver my timbers shivers ever shiver me Timbers and standard niggas is exclamation in the form of a mock oath Usually attributed to speech of pirates in the work of fiction right deployed as a literary device to give you shock You know it's some writer dreamed it up, and obviously. You know one that has just no longer used sticks and stones may break My bones but names will never hurt me because we know that

2:37:26 Words hurt so that's change. Apparently nowadays words are hurtful man William Bryant came up with his was he says his mom always said and I don't know it says this well, I swanny I'd never heard that I don't know what that's how about I gladly pay you for to pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today Yeah wimpy okay My grandma used to say that slays me Nah, we used that in the 80s and the 90's. It has been used too new. And what else do we got here? Anything else? Nope! That concludes our list... This is good because people are going to start sending us ones and will be a little more selective now Yeah yeah We'll look for them once there's a bunch of them in this last batch that have to go on the list for sure I'll put him on it. I have a quick little package four clips about the new immigration executive order

CHAPTER 37 / 39 Discussion

Jennifer Rubin, Conservative Blogging and Denzel Washington

The hosts criticize Washington Post blogger Jennifer Rubin, arguing she is a "raving lunatic" who does not represent conservative views. They also play a clip of actor Denzel Washington discussing the negative effects of the 24-hour news cycle and the prevalence of "opinions" over actual news.

jennifer rubin· washington post· denzel washington· fake news· bbc

2:38:26 Which apparently is pretty much the same except it excludes Iraq and some other things, some clarification on green card holders. But that doesn't mean we didn't have a lot of people going crazy about it! Oh yeah... Let's start with Jennifer Rubin and she is from WAPO. Wapo wapo wapo wapo! There is sort of- Stop hold on a second before you play her Okay, I was gonna do a whole piece on her. I'm not gonna do it today Jennifer Rubin is billed on Twitter and on the website as the conservative blogger for The WAPO Blog? She has written nothing but hate Trump stuff since day one And she has never said anything positive about anything conservative But yet she is the conservative blogger

2:39:20 There is a sort of contempt for expertise that we've seen, this sort of contempt for the establishment. And you see it in this—and also sort of a desire to use the power of the state as essentially a propaganda outlet. I mean, I find this voice idea that the government's going to publish these official reports of crimes committed by undocumented unauthorized immigrants or honor killing research is—you know? This is really using the power of the state in some pretty alarming ways. It sure is, and the voice thing is even worse it just says aliens he doesn't even say illegal aliens so you could be a visa holder or you could be a green card holder basically they're creating a mob mentality where they are trying to once again vilify immigrants

2:40:07 And this is a very disturbing pattern. I would actually argue that that is unconstitutional, we're not allowed to collect information and publicize information based upon national identity but put that aside for the moment they don't care much about the Constitution either. I do think it's very troubling and I think that's why they hate the press so they don't want independent They want to be the sole source of knowledge so they can put out their nonsense that they pick up from Fox or wherever they pick it up from. Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Watto, Wat

2:40:52 I don't know, raving lunatic on the PBS. Because he's supposed to represent the conservative side of a debate when you have two guys sitting at the table. This is their version of it. So what you do is you just give somebody... Okay your title now versus... What do you think of Trump? I don't like the Republicans. They're a bunch of assholes." Okay, you are going to be... your new title's gonna be The Conservative Blogger. So it gives full balance! It's interesting that you bring that up. Denzel Washington did an interview with BBC and pretty much said exactly what you just said. So what is the long-term effect of too much information? The polarization of the electorate?

2:41:35 A meter spiritness. And false information as well because the whole fake news thing... Pick one, pick one! It's not just one that's the flavor of today every day is something else people have to understand are you using your device or is your device using you? Can you put it down can you turn it off You're talking about literally in the places people get their information from I don't care what information pick one phone television You know, it used to be news. Now it's opinions Oh glasses we have three experts on the right three on the left Let's discuss who light bulbs we have three experts on the right that's not news That's a pin use well over and over and over cycle cycle cycle cycle cycle What is the long-term effect of too much information if you're sitting there? And you thinking it's the gospel what I'm saying two people is to all of us I'm not knocking the phone

CHAPTER 38 / 39 Discussion

Immigration Policy, Border Crossings and Leanne Rimes Anecdote

The hosts discuss Department of Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly's comments on separating families at the border to deter illegal immigration. Adam Curry shares a personal story about refusing to let a child stand in front of him at a Leanne Rimes concert to illustrate the difficulty of saying "no" in a programmed society.

immigration· homeland security· leanne rimes· slavery· cheap labor

2:42:24 What I'm saying is we have to understand, we have to at least ask ourselves around the world you here in England wherever you are. What is it doing us? Well of course what he should've said was what are YOU doing to us that would've been even better if he had asked the BBC what are YOU doing to us and what he's describing here as obviously what was responsible for the alternate alternative universe dissociative disorder soon-to be in DSM 5 Back to immigration Secretary Kelly said something that I well it was just clear as a bell. If you get some young kids who are coming in managed to sneak into the United States with their parents our Department of Homeland Security personnel going to separate the children from their moms and dads? We have tremendous experience in dealing with unaccompanied minors

2:43:16 We turn them over to HHS and they do a very, very good job of either putting them in foster care or linking them up with parents or family members in the United States. Yes I am considering an audit to deter more movement along this terribly dangerous network. I'm considering exactly that. They will be well cared for as we deal with their parents." But you understand how that looks to the average person, who is more important than me Wolf. To try to keep people off of this awful network." You know something happened at the concert we went to that I wanted to bring up just because it was something... The machine has programmed me as well and I fought against it was very hard and I am kind of proud of myself but along the same lines of this oh! The optics of this Oh! You're separating children from their parents? Oh! How horrible

2:44:09 So we're at the front, and we got there really early. And we're in the front row and it's standing room only is just you know 200-250 people Leanne Rimes. Tina loves Leanne I like Leanne Rimes too. Yeah she is good. She's a fantastic singer! By the way she had great band so were standing right up front. We got there really early to do so And there's a girl and her parents behind us, and she's probably eight years old. And she's like a super fan you can see it. She's probably been to every concert that she can be up. She's singing all the words but really we're dancing Tina I were dancing this just a rope right in front. The parents send her to go say excuse me Can I stand in front of you? And I really had to think about this

2:44:55 And I wound up saying, no. No we're dancing here and don't want to be responsible for you but really the point was that I wanted this kid to hear no particularly because her parents sent her off to go oh why didn't you ask that man? You know what, no! They didn't say anything to me but I would have suggested they came earlier or maybe this is not an appropriate venue for an eight year old... But people need to do this more often. Did little 8-year olds have ear protection? No of course not You know, but I was proud of myself. But I felt bad. I really did feel bad about it. But kids need to hear no from time to time. Yes, I think you did the right thing. It was hard though John. Was really hard? Yeah because your program by the machine exactly now we have NPR. I'm happy when I get MPR clips with just such a different sound on this show as Homeland Security is announced that decline in illegal Mexican border crossings.

2:45:50 Oh, we don't need a wall at all now do we? The point here is that this happened in spite of the increase in both manpower boots on the ground and deportations that was going on exactly at that same time under Obama. And then when the Mexican economy began to pick up last year, that helped stem the tide from coming from Mexico I think the moral is it's sometimes about what's happening on this side of the border but not always At the same time, people hear a figure like 40%, and I'm sure they're wondering could this be different? That's a good question. I mean this it could be different This is a big decline and if it continues we may start to see its effect on the construction and agricultural industries in this country For example here in Texas housing construction is booming and contractors are having trouble expanding As fast as they'd like It's no secret here anyway that a significant number of these men framing these homes and picking fruits and vegetables or unauthorized immigrants

2:46:48 If employers lose access to cheap labor, Americans are going to pay more for the products they produce. It's straightforward economics." That straightforward? SLAVERY! You're endorsing slavery to the American people?! Pretty much. Hey, listen man if you want to stop all these people your product is going to be more expensive! Yeah it probably will. Pretty lame man. It's pretty funny. This is never gonna happen in Texas or California don't kid yourself this was just an idle threat now that we have plenty of slave labor in California and its not going anywhere And your proud of it there? Oh yeah

2:47:28 The place is all Democrats, so it's all Democrats. So you know they're the ones who are fronting...they're the front men for the whole scam. Final clip is from the Council on American-America Islamic Relations. These are the people whose task it is to bring us closer together. Yeah even though they were funded by the Muslim Brotherhood and just soon see us all in chains? That may be so but still no one really played their statement on the new travel order It warrants listening to. of future anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant policy proposals being taken to President Trump by his Islamophobic advisors. Well thank you very much. That summarized things well White supremacists, Islamophobes and it's just the beginning Hey thanks for the outreach care hands across that border people It was just a douchebag operation I have one last thing i want to talk about and its gonna take a couple minutes Good

CHAPTER 39 / 39 Discussion

White House Fence Jumper, Secret Service and Show Outro

The show concludes with a report on a 26-year-old man who jumped the White House fence while President Trump was inside. The hosts suggest such incidents are often "staged" to show the administration's vulnerability. They sign off with a reminder of the upcoming Thursday show and a final "Adios mofos."

fence jumper· secret service· white house· joe clancy· outro

2:48:47 This is, we talked about this before when it happened to Obama and I'm thinking this is kind of the same thing. The same kind of the machines agents pulling this stunt here is the operative clip. It's called Fence Jumper 26-year old Jonathan Tran of California appeared in court Saturday. The DC Metro Police report says he claimed to be a friend of the president and that he had an appointment He was carrying two cans of mace and admitted to jumping the fence Tran is being held until his next court appearance Monday, the Secret Service says at 1138 p.m Tran carrying a backpack breached the perimeter fence between the East Wing and Treasury Department

2:49:36 He was apprehended near the South Portico entrance. That entrance leads to the president's private residence Mr.. Trump was at home at the time although The Secret Service says he was not in danger Today at a working lunch with cabinet secretaries mr.. Trump praised his security team During the Obama administration, there were multiple White House intrusions prompting plans for the Perimeter Fence to be strengthened and raised. Extended spikes were installed as an interim solution. Secret Service Director Joe Clancy who was brought in under President Obama to fix issues within the agency retired a week ago

2:50:22 President Trump is still deciding on his replacement. This is the old show you that we can get close to you... We can get to ya anytime we want! And which will prove it to you and then we'll make it in the guys nuts by the way so there's never gonna blame anybody So if the guy does something, he's nuts. So it's like Saran Saran you know this... Nuts! He's nuts so we're gonna see next on the agenda will be somebody standing next to Trump who turns out not to be who they're supposed to be. Yeah yeah yeah he breached all security yep you bet and ended up standing right there and then they haul him off I mean this is uh the same script so here we go

2:51:04 Well, we will continue to deconstruct everything for you. I've got some more good out of context clips that i'll use on Thursday We're just out of time once again But thank you for producing the program with us people now learn how to make clips and of course Your financial support is always desperately needed remember us for that at Dvorak org slash na anything to watch John for the uh Oh, you should watch santa clarita diet there's a bunch of You know, the basketball March Madness is wrapping up towards the brackets. And when those games begin then it's actually very entertaining basketball for about two or three weeks. College hoops! As I said you should consider watching Santa Clarita Diet Have you seen this show? No. You don't know about it? It's her name... Drew Barrymore

2:52:01 Oh, yes you told me about it. I gotta check it out You know the other one that they're talking about the revenants? Yes is a huge hit haven't seen it yet It's called the unborn or the returns Or their returners or something like there was originally a French thing called The Revenants. I'll check that and it says zombie style story with no zombies. They're just walking dead, but nobody knows why they were walking around. Well Santa Clarita Diet is Drew Barrymore is a cannibal zombie. That's well worth it! Okay I'll make sure to check that out Alright everybody be on the lookout for The Cannibals and of course be on the lookout for another No Agenda Show which will be here on Thursday

2:52:48 And of course we'll have the results from the Dutch election. Go Ancilla! Coming to you from the skyscraper, Crackpot Condo to be exact in downtown Austin Texas in the middle of South by Southwest where of course it's raining and we always bring that for the tourists FEMA Region 6 on The Government Maps In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I just lie here at my chaise lounge sipping a mint julep I'm John C. Dvorak, we'll be back on Thursday right here on NOAgenda! Adios mofos!

2:53:45 Make them listen to no agenda, make them listen to no agenda, make them listen to no agenda. Her lie in the morning Give them comradity do she? Give them comradity do she? Give them comradity do she? Her lie in the morning Hooray John and Adam! Hooray John Thanks Obama.

2:54:50 I'm going to say time to go, but I think... Nearly a million followers on Facebook apps are away for the Sabbath. This all begins Fake Laura even had a beat up angle of your dangle and Jen fake Laura even hogging Easter blogger anti-muslim anti immigrant and very pro Trump this even living general let's get straight to the heat of

2:55:36 here. Is this a picture of me? It's racist. Fake Laura even had a made up bio.

2:56:42 to say enough is enough. Resist! The man is not trustworthy, he makes promises as a matter of fact I wonder sometime if he's not taking his cues from Putin. I walked out to say enough is enough. Resist! Big beautiful wall... Walked out to say enough is enough. Resist! Makes promises and I wonder sometimes these cues from Putin. We walked ou- While Putin is continuing on to advance into Korea

2:57:34 To say enough is enough. Resist, we much! The best podcast in the universe! Adios mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N-A. Thanks Obama