Episode 910 · Thursday, 9 March 2017

Coin of the Realm

A massive trade penalty hits China as the WikiLeaks Vault 7 dump reveals the secret cyber-intelligence tools used by the CIA to bypass global encryption.

By The No Agenda Show | 3h 8m listen | 39 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 910

About this episode

Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross lead a week of high-stakes federal maneuvers as the Trump administration unveils a trillion-dollar infrastructure plan. While Chao faces scrutiny for her confusing remarks regarding foreign investment in American roads, Ross announced a massive $1.19 billion penalty against the Chinese telecommunications giant ZTE Corporation for violating trade sanctions with Iran. The hosts contrast this aggressive prosecution of a foreign entity with the historical lack of criminal charges against domestic bankers.

The intelligence community is reeling from the WikiLeaks Vault 7 release, which exposes CIA cyber-intelligence tools capable of hijacking smartphones and smart TVs. Documents reveal the U.S. consulate in Frankfurt serves as a secret surveillance hub, prompting German officials to demand investigations into breaches of diplomatic protocol. Former CIA Director Leon Panetta defended the agency's use of zero-day exploits on PBS, while former analyst Larry Johnson suggests that Stingray devices were likely used to monitor communications at Trump Tower, corroborating claims made by Admiral Rogers.

Cultural tensions flare as actress Jane Kaczmarek dismisses her own family as a basket of deplorables and Barbra Streisand blames her weight gain on the daily news cycle. The program features a formal knighthood ceremony for Dame Anonymous Goddess and Sir David of the Show Me State, alongside a linguistic preservation segment dedicated to saving phrases like the wreck of the Hesperus and skivvies. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak provide the definitive analysis of the media's growing Trump Derangement Syndrome.


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CHAPTER 01 / 39 Discussion

Infrastructure Projects, Boston Big Dig and Trump Plan

The hosts open the program discussing local road work in Northern Silicon Valley before transitioning to national infrastructure. They reference the Boston Big Dig as a cautionary tale of long-term, high-cost projects. The discussion shifts to President Donald Trump's proposed trillion-dollar infrastructure plan and his address to a joint session of Congress regarding public-private partnerships.

donald trump· infrastructure· big dig· boston· elaine chao· public-private partnership

00:00 I'm going to live forever. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. And it's Thursday March 9th 2017 this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 9 or 1 0 This is no agenda Following the stingray's tale for five years and counting and broadcasting live from the darkest corners on the internet in downtown Austin Tejas capital of the drone star state In The Morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry... ...and from Northern Silicon Valley where they're working on the road outside I was gonna be very distracted I'm John C. DuBois. And I can actually, I can hear it. We're done with you guys we're good to go. I can hear it. I can hear what they are doing outside in the background You want me open the window? No that's okay! I trust ya

01:01 So you got a note and they said we're going to be working on stuff. That's what happened? No, they sent a note saying we're done working Oh! We are done working?! Ah... We finished the project. We are done. We are good I want to thank you for your tolerance They've been working every day ever since Thank you for your courage Thank you for your courage Well get used to it because President Trump is gonna bring us the big infrastructure change The Big Dig Yeah Reference to Boston's Big Dig How long was that thing going on 15 years or something 35 years and a hundred billion dollars. No, it was something... It was long but it was a JIP. Yeah, well, it was a tunnel right? It's a little tunnel from part A of town to part B of town Well you know when President Trump did his... When he addressed Congress the joint session He mentioned His infrastructure plan for trillion dollars with public-private partnership

CHAPTER 02 / 39 Discussion

Elaine Chao, Foreign Investment and Infrastructure Funding

Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao appeared on Sean Hannity's program to explain the administration's infrastructure financing. During the interview, Chao initially mentioned foreign investment before attempting to clarify that she meant private sector money coming into the United States. The hosts critique her performance, suggesting the plan mirrors infrastructure models used in Africa where Chinese investment builds roads and railroads.

elaine chao· sean hannity· china· infrastructure· transportation secretary· foreign money

01:58 Yeah, which I mean if we take public money and give it to a private company. That's your partnership? I'm not so sure now. I don't like what the idea is but I'm not so sure it's what you say our new Transportation secretary Elaine Chao was on or was he maybe she's on handy She she explains what it is with a little bit of prompting from Sean Hannity calm Try that one out. But she also flubs and makes some mistakes which are very egregious, and I'm very wary about this infrastructure plan. You know the needs of our nation to improve our infrastructure is so great that the federal government cannot assume the cost for all of it. So who

02:42 It behooves us as a nation to address the deteriorating infrastructure by thinking about new and innovative ways in which we can fund our infrastructure. And so President Trump has so many really exciting and novel ideas about how to finance... There's nothing exciting about financing, lady! Nothing! ...our deteriorating infrastructure. Well, it's not novel. Listen up. Our deteriorating infrastructure so that once again Did she say deteriorating? I think she said deteriorating but we can listen again. No i think you said deteriorating Let's listen. Infrastructure so the... Oh well let me roll back a little bit further Finance our

03:27 She flubs We allow foreign... They're gonna let China build these... And it gets worse because as she's speaking, so she said I have a novel idea what we're going to do here is we're gonna have China. China! That won't cost us the nickel and they'll build a freeway from San Francisco to Los Angeles and to help pay for it will be a toll road so China can collect the money that make them so the thing works out for them Correct you are listen to her flub again and how she tries to correct it Basically

04:20 She doubles down private sector money to come into the United States. I'm not saying foreign, sorry you're full of crap lady that's exactly what you're talking about she flubs it and then she does it again and then she says I'm not talking about foreign money I gotta hear that whole thing again. This lady's nuts. Well, different kinds of money private sector money to come into the United States i'm not saying foreign to come and fund let's say a bridge or a road or it can be any kind of infrastructure podcast studio by the way I should also add that the president's initiative on infrastructure will include probably energy water one second

05:18 I'm just regurgitating in my mind what she said, which is not saying foreign. But her wordage is the following we're going to allow money to come IN! That's what I just said that's what I just said She doubled down on it First she said foreign then she said we're going to allow Then were going to allow money to come into the United States I am not saying foreign and then she says I'm not saying foreign right after it What does it mean? What is she thinking why don't you just say it We're gonna let foreign money come in and pay for this stuff, and I don't know how we're gonna pay them back. We're kind of like Africa bring the Chinese in Let him build everything perfect building roads Very good and railroads they're very good at infrastructure will include probably energy water broadband so it's not just a road and bridges

CHAPTER 03 / 39 Discussion

Toll Roads, Privacy Concerns and Manhattan Entry Fees

A discussion on the proliferation of toll roads highlights concerns over privacy and the tracking capabilities of systems like E-ZPass. The hosts argue that toll roads primarily serve as a convenience for the wealthy while burdening average commuters with high costs, such as the $24 fee to enter Manhattan. They suggest that if foreign entities build American roads, the government should consider nationalizing the infrastructure afterward.

toll roads· ezpass· manhattan· golden gate bridge· privacy· tracking

06:10 Listen to the great one Sean Hannity. Whoa gee if I'm hearing you correctly, I think we're going to be paying tolls So maybe if I'm hearing properly maybe what you're saying is that for example if a company were to rebuild the road they might get their investment back by, say having a toll on that road and this way the taxpayers don't pay a penny. They make a profit it's a win. No you don't pay a penny only when you want to use it. And win? Something like that? Yeah thank you for putting it that way! Thank you because I didn't want to say toll that was not. I'm not I've already f'ed up on the foreign money thing I should just back off Something like that? Yes, thank you for putting it that way You know there are- That is certainly one example of how that would work Now i have to say there are some people who may not support toll roads Yeah! I'm waving my hand

07:06 Raising my hand here, lady. New aspects, the new America of the future. I don't know Elon Musk with his- What's a new aspect? The Hyperloop Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah Like the hyper... loop 2 The Hyperloop I've gotta take a crap down and we say what am i gonna do? Hop on the Hyperloop Hey, I'm against toll roads We have them in Texas Yeah well here is what I think

07:58 Because I'm, as a Californian native born on my land. You have road issues? We have always been against toll roads even though i think there are a couple of private ones here and there Texas has a lot of toll roads private and public yeah And they're not used as much that the 130 is going bankrupt because no one's using it It's too expensive. It's too expensive and what's worse, it actually takes up some of the existing road at least the way I see it has been built. And here is another thing about those...some of these toll roads that are too expensive. What you know told...The idea of the toll road as in modern sense not in the old sense it was more like what they're talking about but in the modern sense the idea of the toll road is so you can get from point A to point B without getting stopped and delayed

08:44 These roads, they have so many toll stops that it just takes as long to get from point A to point B. You gotta slow down here... Yeah but now we have the E-ZPass and of course that gives the benefit you only slow down a bit but the real benefit is your tracked everywhere. As you know, you put your easy pass in a Faraday cage when you're driving around San Francisco Yes I keep my easy pass which is only used on the bridge or any bridge around here I keep it in a, I don't even use a ferrite. I just use aluminum foil works fine if I already tested these things. Oh you just wrap in a little cheap aluminum foil. You tested with your own EMP? Yeah! I can just see you with dry cell batteries like what is this? You throw on the glove box and some aluminum foil and you're good to go yeah and it's not that I give a crap about being tracked everywhere because

09:41 For example, I could be charged with a crime and prove my innocence by the tracking device. Yeah impossible but that's... I just don't like the idea of being tracked or watched by the Samsung TV. It's too 1984 for my taste Okay you want to go there now? I guess so But let's just finalize this okay i really don't like toll roads. I just don't understand why people put up with it, you know the excuse here is we don't have the money okay? We spent what's it three four trillion dollars

10:20 Killing overseas, killing brown people in sandy regions. Yeah building roads there? Yeah so could we maybe just save a little you know kill less brown people and then build the roads I don't understand why this can't be... I'm all in with this. I totally agree with you yeah that's I don't like it that I just don't and Texans in general don't like it as far as I can tell And it's just more, you know, it's taken privatization to the extreme. Well really what is it? It's for rich people! It's for rich people! Yeah. It's a convenience for rich people who can afford the toll. Right. I mean look at Manhattan now when I was working in Manhattan and driving in from New Jersey, the toll was $4.00. It's now 15 going into 20. Who can afford that? Or Golden Gate Bridge same thing and I have... Who could afford 400 dollars a month in tolls

11:12 I have the Golden Gate Bridge over here, I think it's seven or eight bucks now. And you have to have a pass too because they don't even want to pay the toll takers so you had to have a pass and it was a pain in the ass and...and I still have advertisements for both the Golden Gate Bridge and the San Francisco Bay Bridge talking about Golden Gate Bridge in particular talking about how it's always going to be free. Always gonna be free! Forever, it's gonna be free forever. So just pass the bond to build it I'm sorry I take it back It is $24 to get into Manhattan 15 is for a motorcycle That's a jib. Yeah well it forces people onto the path train And you can who can't people can afford this Fine no you think you can get into Manhattan by using from Jamaica station using the

12:09 that little shuttle thing that goes to Kennedy. Yeah, which is for less than $24. I'm talking about from New Jersey or Connecticut getting into the island of Manhattan. So just briefly do you think there are any other innovative, exciting ways this can be financed that would not result in foreign money coming in to build stuff. Although it is also true that the way we deal with the Chinese and Africa when they're there taking all the resources and building the roads and hospitals then we come in and kick them out so maybe... We could just nationalize this stuff after they've done it That's what I was thinking! Just nationalized it! Just do reverse privatization Hey thanks China!

CHAPTER 04 / 39 Discussion

ZTE Corporation, US Trade Sanctions and Iran

Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross announced a criminal plea agreement involving ZTE Corporation for violating U.S. trade restrictions with Iran. The Chinese telecommunications giant agreed to pay a combined criminal and civil penalty of $1.19 billion. The hosts compare the aggressive prosecution of the Chinese firm to the lack of criminal charges against American bankers following the 2008 financial crisis.

zte corporation· wilbur ross· iran· trade sanctions· department of commerce· chips

12:56 Oops, we just nationalized it. Possible. But that would give us a bad reputation. In other words you'd only do that trick once... Yeah. ...if we ever did that? Well before we get into that other thing let me just say something about China I didn't this didn't get a lot of play that I saw But I did, I did like it. If we only could do this a thousand more times we'll have our infrastructure. Good morning Oh this is um... Our brand new secretary of the Treasury Mr Ross Today the US Attorney for the Northern District of Texas filed a criminal plea agreement and information regarding ZTE Corporation

13:43 and their egregious, deliberate violations of U.S. restrictions on trade with Iran." This resulted from an investigation initiated by the Department of Commerce Bureau of Industrial Security. ZTE has admitted liability and agreed, subject to approval of the court, to an unprecedented $1 billion 190 million total combined criminal and civil penalty paid to the Departments of Commerce, Justice and Treasury. I apologize it's uh he is the Secretary of the Department of Commerce With this action we are putting the world on notice improper trade games are over with those who flout our economic sanctions export control laws and any other trade regimes will not go unpunished

14:48 They will suffer the harshest of consequences. This guy proves that AI really does work though, doesn't he? I am not a robot! I like to talk very loud into the microphone... Well good get those Chiners Who's ZTE? I think they provide chips No well i think we should know They provide chips To Iran Yeah I think so What is Iran bill with chips I thought they were buying potato chips for all we know. Phones, tablets internet all kinds of devices...ZTE Chinese multinational telecommunications equipment. It's a Chinese company? That's what i said! I said chinese you gotta listen to me. I heard you say it but I didn't know wasn't thinking it was much more than that and then I'm realizing that they're going after a chinese company is doing business here yes

15:47 Yes, and they do business all over the world. But they... Yeah they're a big company I know who they are. Okay. One thing, yeah I'm sure that you can do the same thing with the one to go after National Semi or TI or Intel or AMD if they really looked into it? Well okay but I think this is specifically against China Yeah. And so when we had our banking crisis that brought the whole economy down, not one banker goes to jail but they're gonna file criminal papers on some guy who sold a couple of chips to Iran? Okay makes sense yeah. Fair I don't know what the comparison is it's two different things but... No i'm just saying you know these guys they have their priorities and apparently bringing the economy down is not one of them. So there you go now! You're up to speed

CHAPTER 05 / 39 Discussion

Day Without a Woman, Protests and Hillary Clinton

The "A Day Without a Woman" strike saw women across the globe walk off their jobs to protest gender pay inequity and the Trump administration. In Alexandria, Virginia, over 300 teachers stayed home, forcing school closures. The hosts analyze the protest's effectiveness and critique a Snapchat video released by Hillary Clinton encouraging supporters to resist.

day without a woman· strike· hillary clinton· alexandria virginia· equity· protest

16:43 Uh, maybe briefly Day Without a Woman? Oh okay. I got A Day Without the Woman clip. Aw give me something Okay so what it says is you're gonna go to day without a woman's day off! There ya'go Is this a backgrounder? Kind of Quite a few women stayed away from work today They marched in some war red In solidarity with what they are calling A Day Without a Woman But Anna Werner was on the job Wait wait hold on a second Hey she was working They got her working, they got all these other people working. Well what's up with that? They have the Congress working That's not good! I didn't see any women that weren't working Tina was workin'. I asked did anyone take off today she said no children need to be helped A lot of these people who didn't take off they did do their appropriate communist thing because this actually is a throwback to an old communist Not pre-Soviet you know real communists They don't exist anymore except in America Uh...they had to wear the red dress Yeah yeah

17:44 Either that or it was a call back to the two Julia Roberts, was it? Hookers. Hooker's yeah. She either called back to hookers or the Soviets Okay go on I'll take either one for 20 Alex Quite a few women stayed away from work today They marched in some wore red in solidarity with what they're calling A Day Without a Woman But Anna Werner was on the job A day without a woman is a day without me From New York to Los Angeles Istanbul to St. Petersburg women walked off their jobs to protest I wanted to show the White House that we are here We're not leaving and to demand equity, we're rejecting a world that still pays women less Women make about 79 cents for every dollar made by men on Capitol Hill

18:38 Capitol Hill Democratic lawmakers highlighted the inequities by stepping out themselves. Teachers in Alexandria, Virginia agreed 300 of the district's 1400 educators stayed home forcing the schools to close self-employed mother mother Anna Jaeger took her four children to the playground instead. My sixth grader just finished up a National History Day project where the theme was people taking a stand in history so today he gets to see his teachers taking a stand. District spokesperson Helen Lloyd says that closure decision was based on safety what do you say to parents who say they're closing because of this?

19:19 We've had that reaction and we understand it. For us, it's not because of any political reason or because of any cause It is simply looking at the data Alexandria's Jill Erbert who owns three wine and cheese shops says she's making her own statement To me the best way to demonstrate The strength of women in the workplace is to be in the workplace And to grow our businesses and employ the women that we employ I agree. As predicted, what I saw were a bunch of middle-aged white women predominantly in the United States—I didn't see everything from all around the world... It'd be the same And i just don't understand the concept Was the idea to bring the world to a screeching halt? was that the idea? was that supposed to show...? Well, it didn't work Yeah well That's what I mean is... I think that was the intent! That's what strikes are typically about you strike this is why I think they need to go full Lysistrata They need to go no sex

20:11 That's where they should be going with this because that will make a difference But just, you know there was no difference. Nothing stopped. This is like the No Sex thing is like one of the funniest Seinfeld episodes where they decide to make a bet on no masturbation and they all put 10 bucks in the pot or don't put anything in the pot until they fail and then say okay we're going to do it and then they all go their separate ways and within two minutes Framer comes back and throws the ten down says okay So while I understand that, of course, protesting is fantastic. Do whatever you want but it was really just we hate Donald Trump. That's what I saw. One of our... Yes! Why don't they be honest about it? Yeah just say women hate Trump Day will be fine and have a couple... Women hate Trump day is a great idea. One of our producers took a couple of pictures let me see I have some placards some signs We have Our Future Is Female Matriarchy Now

21:15 There's something written in, I think Arabic. In crayon? No but translated underneath women owe you shit that's towards Donald Trump That's a good one And they have pregnancy is not a pre-existing condition Wow...that's old If you respect women then pay us like you do Oh jeez and i'm telling you just looking at these pictures and it's predominantly middle aged privileged white women who of course were shopping at stores owned and run by women of color because they can't take off. No, no there are blacks that can't take off I'm sorry i just really didn't dig it. It's senseless back to the 50s yeah exactly Hillary Clinton participated although she didn't go out mainly because she has a horrendous haircut and she's cross-eyed like a crazy woman right now and that is evidenced on her snapchat

22:15 which she sent out into the universe. There's a lot to fight for, Planned Parenthood, education, healthcare jobs every issue is a woman's issue so stand up resist run for office be a champion. There's nothing quite like Hillary saying resist. We must and we will much about be committed. Resist she says, resist! All right Hill what do you think is causing this eyeball problem with her? I think it's the same thing she has had. It is something with her brain from the air quotes fall. I think it goes back to that plane crash. It must! Because, I never saw before the plane crash and of course a plane crash has been completely hushed up and we haven't even talked about it for almost through the entire election we've rarely mentioned it You were talking about real communism?

CHAPTER 06 / 39 Discussion

Fascism Definitions, Homeschooling Dynamics and Education

The discussion pivots to a Ronald Reagan quote regarding the definition of fascism as private ownership under total government control. This leads to a debate on homeschooling, government vouchers, and the different cultural approaches to home education among various religious groups. One host shares personal experience homeschooling in Washington State and the regulatory requirements involved.

ronald reagan· fascism· homeschooling· vouchers· education· unschooling

23:18 Yeah, the old-fashioned kind. Marxism. I picked up a... Not in Marxism! The old fashioned international communist conspiracy that really was at its peak in the 50s. I picked up a quote from Ronald Reagan who explains not communism but where fascism will come from if it ever comes to America. I don't know if you've ever heard this quote from him before? I had not but I liked it. You know someone very profoundly once said many years ago that if fascism ever comes to America it'll come in the name of liberalism What is fascist fascism is private ownership private enterprise, but total government control and regulation Well isn't this the liberal philosophy? The conservative so-called is the one that says less government get off my back Get out of my pocket and let me have more control of my own destiny There you go. Yeah I think I've heard that before do you agree with his assertion there yeah generally they do

24:17 Well, just something to be aware of. But I but at the same time i'm for socialized medicine single-payer, you know You've heard this before and yes I don't argue with you about that. I'd let you go that's your standpoint? I don't argue other people argue by sending me emails about things you say That's how it is Don't forget if you have a I'm telling the audience right now you have any complaint with me you send me a note at curry calm Adam at curry comment I will ignore it Adam can take it up with me. Oh, yeah Yeah I'll take him and ask you know an animal bring it up on the show have like now eight or nine homeschoolers saying you're right Vouchers is about government involvement through money Dvorak is wrong. I have a I have I don't know if I had printed out for today's show We will discuss this in Eventually we've got a bunch of people writing me

25:14 I had both sides though. I said, I had the side that says all those unschooler nuts are ruining it for all of us and then you have the unschoolers that write in and they say you don't understand it at all right here's why? And then they go on to their little pitch and somehow they make the con...they don't see They really see any kind of, and they accused me by the way being a hypocrite for saying you know once the government gets involved in something this is my net neutrality argument with the FCC. And I've said it and written about it once the government gets involved next thing you know they're regulating you right? So the homeschoolers believe the same thing well you're already being regulated by the government even if you are a home schooler in most states

26:00 In some states less so than others, other states try to just shut you down if they can and arrest you. I mean California's borderline that kind of way we homeschool in Washington State which has a very... it's very amenable to home schoolers but they do make you take tests. Yeah, I did want to mention everybody that John you did homeschool your kids so yeah you have standing. You know that. I understand the scene It's a milieu, it is. And an interesting one too because it's deep and people think oh I don't know there's too much work at the home... No! Homeschooling if you're gonna unless your unschooling and you get some philosophy that's your own it's crazy yeah and I said that

26:43 There is a great infrastructure for homeschooling. It's a lot of field trips, all the different religions have their homeschooling methodology some of them are more snooty than others Christians mostly The Jewish homeschoolers are amenable to a mixture of people going to their events. The Muslim homeschoolers are very open, much more so than just about anybody else and the Christians are now if you're not this way or that way and you have to sign an oath and do all this other stuff they get in our group to go see a cow farm it's outrageous at least in Washington State where there is

27:23 But anyway, I will address this whole thing again one of these days. Okay you can do that as a part of your forthcoming education special? Exactly be right in line with that and the vinegar book! After the vinegar book and the cycles book... You know if unfortunately you pass before i do my eulogy is going to be great for you. I'm not passing any time soon! My eulogy is gonna be great for you. You got a clip there. Yeah, I already got one with just starting out If I pass out before you what my eulogy will be great and talk about all the projects you worked on And we'll bury them with you Manuscript from this side that won't be your problem because the pile will fall over and that's how your demise comes

CHAPTER 07 / 39 Discussion

Technical Difficulties, Keyboards and Mute Keys

A host describes a recurring technical issue where a keyboard on the floor accidentally mutes the broadcast system when kicked. They discuss the specific layout of the "Ozzie" keyboard and the difficulty of monitoring audio levels during live recordings.

keyboard· technical glitch· mute· hardware· studio equipment

28:19 That's what happened to some guy was reading some news already go, but son you see about the one that died in his collection His pile fell on him. He died he was dead for like a month under the file But you know what we won't be able to find you but will find your keyboard first The keyboard was on the floor Happening on the Horowitz show what the key you're losing the keyboard keepers on the floor And I kick it with my this happened our last year. You didn't know would your cross they pick it with your crock? I don't wear Crocs. I wear Speedos no, sorry actually we're sketchers that's my favorite shoe right now so the keyboard is on the floor and

29:04 Hold on, I'm trying to move it. The keyboard's on the floor and I don't know what key it is somebody can maybe know us but there's one key and I just bumped it with my foot and it turns on the mute key. Oh! It mutes the system so now I don't hear anything and I think that what? This happened last on our last show you're in me oh yeah I did it on Horowitz and but I said what the hell well it may be a key with a little speaker icon with a line drawn through it you might want to check that Let's see I have one on my or down at the worst no on the speaker There's like a couple speaker controls, and then one it has no little sound waves emanating from it That would be good MCE my TV. My videos my music my pictures that know what kind of keyboard Did you get a web TV? This is an Ozzie Oh my my but he's had my little pony oh

29:56 Yeah, you press a button. There's the record to see what happens when I hit my pictures My no don't do it Don't it doesn't do any don't do anything? Don't just let's just carry on here's the key Here's their speakers keys and they're not anywhere near where I'd kick We'll work on this maybe I can get you a proper keyboard This keyboards dynamite don't kid yourself all right. I don't need a proper keyboard so for me the word today John is stingray This is the piece that I believe is missing from the conversation about wiretapping. Stingray! You want to talk about the wiretapping before we talk about the WikiLeaks? It kind of flows in, so go ahead start with your set. We can do WikiLeaks absolutely. Well I wanted... okay let's give you a little background on what happened

CHAPTER 08 / 39 Discussion

WikiLeaks Vault 7, CIA Hacking Tools and Snowden Comparison

WikiLeaks released "Vault 7," a collection of documents detailing CIA cyber-intelligence capabilities, including the ability to hack smartphones and smart TVs. Media reports compare the breach to the Edward Snowden leaks, while former CIA official Michael Morrell expresses concern over the loss of classified tools. The hosts speculate on inter-agency rivalry between the NSA and CIA regarding domestic versus foreign spying.

wikileaks· vault 7· cia· edward snowden· hacking· nsa

30:53 WikiLeaks was all... Ricky, well I organized it. Ricky Weets, we live with Ricky Weets. WikiLeaks released, was it Vault 7? Day Zero? Which was a collection interesting collection of things which to me I didn't really learn anything new Well, I did and i'm going to tell you why it was called day zero. Because actually there was... And nobody talked about this in fact I'll give some examples let's start with the CBS report when this thing first broke CBS did two reports Very propagandistic, of course. Yeah And let's play the CBS reports on WikiLeaks part one with its typical slants Central Intelligence Agency has lost control of highly classified documents and computer code that describe top-secret techniques for intercepting phone calls reading encrypted text messages and turning televisions into eavesdropping devices

31:53 Today, WikiLeaks the anti-secrecy website dumped thousands of pages of CIA documents in a breach of national security that is being compared to Edward Snowden's theft at the NSA. The CIA is prohibited by law from operating in the United States but Jeff Begay reports the breach has seriously damaged the agency's work overseas if The documents also cite the ability to hack iPhone or Google Android smartphones. Those hacks allow the CIA to then monitor the communications of terrorist groups like ISIS, which have been using encrypted apps to communicate. Critics have wondered why apps like WhatsApp and Telegram haven't been disabled. But the documents suggest analysts have the ability to exploit them.

32:58 Earlier this year, US intelligence officials accused WikiLeaks of being a propaganda arm of the Russian government after it released damaging Democratic Party emails stolen through Russian cyber attacks. When the emails were published during the presidential campaign candidate Donald Trump praised the organization. WikiLeaks! I love WikiLeaks But the latest disclosures now threaten U.S. intelligence capabilities Okay, couple things there before I go on yeah gonna cut it off they're stuck They already put it in stolen through this Russian stole from the DNC. It just as a matter of fact Yeah, well if that's how it works doesn't matter what you say just keep repeating We're stuck with this meme and if anybody out there goes to dinner with someone who doesn't listen to the show they're gonna This will come up and you're gonna go you're gonna just roll your eyes and not say Just mumble The other thing is that

33:55 Saying I love WikiLeaks is not the same as praising them. This is the kind of misreporting that I accuse CBS of doing constantly. Yeah, I agree but that's also an alternate universe perspective...the way people listen to things Yes, and so you say Donald Trump praised wikiLeaks and the quote was WikiLeaks I love wikiLeaks that doesn't it's not a praise at all It is just that you love me. I love but you don't think that they're great. You just love them I agree. I mean I've you loved things that you don't you know? You think they're crap

34:31 No, things I think are crap. I don't love no what you're talking about but understand what you're saying some old comfy shoes Yeah Anyway since they go on with this kind of thing and here's part two WikiLeaks says it has more information than that revealed by NSA leaker Edward Snowden former CIA acting director Michael Morrell How would you compare this to snowed in? This is CIA's Edwards noted that big this is huge in terms of what it will tell the adversaries and we'll have to essentially start- Wait, I need to stop that for a second. He said this is CIA's Edward Snowden Yeah So

35:09 Edward Snowden... I think that was the quote of the day, by the way. Yeah! Edward Snowden spied on and released CIA documents- he was a spy for the CIA and released NSA documents Yes So does anybody want to put two and two together? Hellooo In terms of what it will tell the adversaries And we'll have to essentially start over in building tools To get information from our adversary You know what? I'm gonna take that back Let me just roll that back again Let's just be in the alternate universe for a moment, the way we hear people do this all the time on the news and take what Mike Morrell says here. And we're straddling. We're straddling. This is a straddle. Be careful everybody hold on a second

35:50 safety net out, the boys are straddling. Okay here we go. WikiLeaks says it has more information than that revealed by NSA leaker Edward Snowden former CIA acting director Michael Morrell how would you compare this to Snowden? This is CIA's Edward Snowden so You can take that saying, this is Ed Snowden did this. You can say this is the NSA doing this to the CIA there's so many ways you could interpret this That's the only way I interpreted it! I agree with you This is the NSA Oh really? You're gonna do that to us. We know Snowden's a CIA guy, he said so a million times He still has his card apparently Can't get him out of Russia though can you boys And here's a little gift for ya

36:40 Boom and there was this was brought up to what's funny about it the NSA I think has every right to do this because This is all their job They're the ones who are supposed to be doing this sort of thing, and I think they're irked at the CIA is doing it Where did this alternate universe story come from? Game from the alternate universe. Let's continue with the clip. Snowden, this is CIA's Edward Snowden that big this is huge In terms of what it will tell the adversaries and we'll have to essentially start over in Building tools to get information from our adversaries Oh Please you took Russian tools and repurpose them you moron just like we did was snowed

37:21 Just like we do in Snowden. There is no suggestion in the documents that these tools were being used against Americans Scott, the CIA is not commenting on the data nor would it confirm its authenticity? Oh No of course not yeah nice They don't have to I like that That's-I'm gonna give you a borderline for that one. I thought that was pretty damn good All right, then onward. So we have...we want to hear the other bit actually the most balanced and most interesting and most revealing because you wouldn't answer the question is was when Panetta was on PBS but before we go there let's go to RT because they of course get a kick out of this stuff and they like to give us the needle mm-hmm And so they introduced Caleb Maupin who is that character who does these kinds of reports? He looks into it for us This is Caleb Maupin

CHAPTER 09 / 39 Discussion

CIA Operations in Frankfurt, German Spying Scandals

WikiLeaks documents reveal that the U.S. consulate in Frankfurt serves as a secret CIA cyber surveillance hub for operations in Europe, Africa, and the Middle East. German officials and Green Party members have called for an immediate investigation into the breach of diplomatic protocols. The report revives tensions regarding past allegations of the U.S. bugging Chancellor Angela Merkel's mobile phone.

frankfurt· germany· cia· angela merkel· wikileaks· cyber surveillance

38:12 on WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks has come out with a new batch of CIA documents and the revelations are quite impressive, apparently American spies can hack almost any type of smartphone phone bypass encryption and snoop via smart TV now the documents show that the US consulate in Frankfurt is apparently a secret CIA cyber surveillance hub all kinds of agents whose primary work is spying on people in the Middle East Africa and Europe have set up shop right under Berlin's nose knows with diplomatic visas. Remember what Angela Merkel once said? Since we started talking about the NSA, I have always made it clear to the U.S. President spying among friends is not acceptable. Too bad those being spied on are often longtime US allies and NATO members back in 2012

39:01 the United States spied on the French presidential election campaign. And should we even bother to bring up Merkel's own phone? What more, the CIA has a program allowing it to mimic all sorts of techniques It's called Umbridge and it leaves behind the fingerprints ie the password lists key loggers etc of other hackers Essentially it allows the CIA to make it look like someone else did it and the CIA maintains a substantial library of tricks and techniques stolen from other countries, including Russia. If you like the investigators off the scent by giving the impression it comes from multiple targets or multiple sources and that's certainly one of the cases that has been made, of course in recent times with allegations of hacking and interference in electoral systems. CIA officials refused to confirm the authenticity of their report but available experts aren't exactly questioning or doubting it

40:11 that the CIA is able to carry out essentially false flag hacking is certainly relevant in the conversation and the lead up to several European elections, and the rumors about mysterious Russian hackers. Caleb Maupin RT New York For a little addition to this I have a Euronews report so that was Russia Today here is Euronews with their version of this story. Sorry That was a fortuitous accident. Not for the first time Germany finds itself at the center of a spying scandal involving the United States this time all eyes are on the US consulate in Frankfurt it's being used as a covert base for CIA hacking operations covering Europe, the Middle East and Africa according to the whistleblower website WikiLeaks

41:02 The German government says it takes the publication of the CIA documents seriously. As does this Green Party MP who is already part of a German parliamentary inquiry into a previous spying scandal involving the US National Security Agency. This matter must be investigated immediately, he says. In 2013 German media reported claims that US intelligence agencies used the American embassy in Berlin as a listening station Revelations by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden about wide-ranging espionage in Germany by the US included allegations that it bugged Chancellor Merkel's mobile phone. Alright, so there is a Euronews version I like yours better There are couple of things we should make note here for people who aren't familiar with what is going on with Snowden and why they don't shoot him

41:53 He does have a dead man switch and all the files, and this is only supposedly 1% of the total gross number of files he's going to release. The next group being supposedly... Wait you say Snowden but you mean Assange? I made Assange sorry. Assange. So the Sanjh is not being killed because he has a dead man switch and he's already released the entire universe of these files, of which this is only 1%. The next group coming out will be supposedly about the US Senate and about senators in the senate that are beholden to the CIA. Who, of course we know that the CIA spied on the senate!

42:31 Now, yes. Yes because of and the one got the most irked by it was Feinstein Yeah He seemed to be the only one honest enough to do bitch about it Anyway so the whole thing is out in a number of people have downloaded It's I don't know what the file size is but its huge I get a copy Oh you do Of course And it's not accessible But if something happens to Assange The key goes out and you can get the whole thing Unlocked exactly And that's the idea. So, that's what going on so the thing is out there and everybody has a copy I don't have a copy just so you know and so let's go now but again we had to go back to this original release and how many people did reports on this without picking up on the thematic

CHAPTER 10 / 39 Discussion

Leon Panetta, Zero-Day Vulnerabilities and Intelligence Oversight

Former CIA Director Leon Panetta appeared on PBS to discuss the WikiLeaks dump and the agency's hacking operations. Panetta defended the CIA's development of tools for foreign intelligence gathering while avoiding questions about why the agency hoarded "zero-day" vulnerabilities instead of sharing them with tech companies. He emphasized the balance between national security and privacy under congressional oversight.

leon panetta· zero-day· pbs· cia· silicon valley· privacy

43:16 of the zero day name of it. And let's start by going to PBS, which did pick up on it. They didn't pick up on it on their initial discussion but here they are this is Panetta he shows up to be the apologist in waiting for for the CIA and he comes on PBS. And this is Panetta on CBS, PBS One. Yesterday's WikiLeaks dump of documents was yet another major breach of classified information inside US intelligence services. Hari Sreenivasan picks up our story Today, the story about intelligence leaks advanced on multiple fronts. Reuters reported intelligence officials have known about the security breach since last year and are focused on contractors as the likeliest source of the leak. And White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said President Trump is extremely concerned about the breach for more on all this we turn to Leon Panetta he served as the CIA director during Obama administration. Mr. Panetta first what's happening in the CIA right now if it's a mole

44:15 How did they find him? If it's an inside job, him or her. Or if it is from the outside how do we figure out where we were hacked? Well I think the more important issue is going to be how you replace those important tools that have now been made public Okay, so he starts off right away with not answering the question. But we knew these tools had been lost or stolen or gotten out. Well yeah they knew over a year ago that this was taken place. Yeah but now were going to get to the bottom of why it was called the zero day release.

44:57 So, and only PBS picked this up. And of course we have Panetta here who's already avoided the first question and he's definitely not going to answer this one so we're gonna hear it... We have three clips in a row where We pretty much hear the same question asked over and over and over again in different ways. And Panetta goes on, and on about something else he refuses to talk about this but this is the key question that needs to be addressed. I think it caught a lot of people by surprise at the CIA has such an extensive hacking operation don't we have the NSA for that? Why is the CIA doing this Well, the CIA does it for intelligence gathering purposes abroad. It's not done here in the United States. No. It's done abroad and... Hold on! Stop stop!

45:44 The NSA is not a domestic spying operation. No, it can do it but its an overseas signal processing operation that takes in every communication it can and tries to analyze it so they'd be more interested doing this than the CIA should which there should be more boots on the ground unless NSA stuff So this is a misdirection This answer's bullcrap Uh yeah Yeah, what can I say? Intelligence gathering purposes abroad. It's not done here in the United States it is done abroad and for that reason the CIA has to develop the capabilities that is has developed in order to be able to track those that are known suspects of terrorism

46:32 You know, we went through 9-11. There was a national commission that was established to find out why we were attacked. Yeah okay, that's it...9-11 bring that back in fine Okay so that's question one is cleared up now we go to Clip three, which has got I think the question we're looking for. Speaking of sharing information back in 2010 when you were still CIA director the Obama administration said that they would share zero-day vulnerabilities those hacks that are core in pieces of software like an Apple iPhone or Android operating system with the technology companies but here We have evidence that the CIA has hoarded a lot of those zero day vulnerabilities and really violated that trust

47:19 Well, I have to tell you at least in my time as director of the CIA that we had a very good relationship with Silicon Valley and with high-tech companies. And we had a cooperative relationship. Obviously they have their interests and we respect that They are dealing with privacy issues, and we respect that as well. But in the end all of us are concerned about being able to ensure that we're able to go after terrorists, that were able to detect when they're planning attacks on this country and elsewhere

47:58 and that we are able to take steps to protect this country. And I think what we have to do is make sure that we get back to that kind of cooperative relationship." I like that he still speaks as if he's CIA director, you notice that? Yes, he does that. We gotta do this we got to take care of it It's just like he's still there Yeah Well He probably still is in some sense but but he didn't answer the question Of course you agreed Panetta and all your buddies agreed that you're gonna share these zero-day exploits hence the name of the file that I got you know You're going to You're going to share these zero-day things to help these companies from being screwed over by various exploits or bad actors, the mafia or who knows who. By telling them that was the deal! What happened in the deal? That's the question. He didn't answer that question he doesn't answer it again

48:53 You know, the thing that has a lot of people concerned is when you keep these zero-day vulnerabilities to yourself and you don't tell Apple or you don't tell Google or you don't tell Microsoft hey there's this hole in your software. That means that identity thieves other governments could also be using this I mean I think there's also general discomfort uh...to put it mildly with consumers who say wait a minute i thought that um...that my product was safe but here are unnecessarily know whether its even my government looking out for best interests Well, again I think the fundamental issue that's involved here is whether or not we want our intelligence agencies and our law enforcement agencies

49:36 to be able to protect our country and I know that there are there's often this debate about Are we going to be able to protect our security and our freedoms at the same time? I believe we can't. I don't think we have to make a choice on that now He's not even he's made up some question. He's answering something That wasn't even discussed you got to love that I think we can do this in that because I know a lot of people disagree with me, but I think think we can protect our privacy and our security at the same time. It's got nothing to do with the question." Yeah, he's back on that balance between privacy and security. Which is not the question! The question is you promised you were gonna do this and you didn't do it. I know... You lied

50:18 You lied to the American public, you lied to industry. Why? I know that there's often this debate about are we going to be able to protect our security and our freedoms at the same time. I believe we can't. I don't think we have to make a choice on that. The reality is what the CIA has done in terms of its capabilities and what it is able to do, is done pursuant to the law and is done pursuant to oversight by the Congress. And by the intelligence committees on The Hill they are fully aware of what capabilities the CIA has. That's how we try to protect our freedoms at the same time

CHAPTER 11 / 39 Discussion

Zero-Day Exploits, Keyloggers and Hardware Security

The hosts define zero-day exploits as unpatched software flaws used by intelligence agencies to bypass encryption and install keyloggers. They discuss a historical case of a New Zealand company producing keyboards with built-in logging hardware. This technical context is used to explain why the FBI sought Apple's help in the San Bernardino case despite having access to various hacking tools.

zero-day· keylogger· encryption· hardware hack· cybersecurity· fbi

51:01 Let's just talk briefly for a moment about zero-day exploits because I'm sure a lot of people are listening have no idea what that is. Well, we're going to explain it go ahead No, no, I was you I was thinking you A zero day exploit is a is the flaw that is discovered in some code and that if you discover it on day zero, I mean day zero refers to the day it's discovered. If you're the one who discovers it and you want to use it for malicious purposes that's your opportunity. You have this zero-day exploit, when you start exploiting it for some reason spam or Trojans planting things making botnets whatever you're gonna do

51:48 Or listening in on somebody through some screwy mechanism Until somebody else comes along and finds that you've been doing this You actually own it. Right, and here's what Tina asked me Why did the FBI need Apple's cooperation to unlock the San Bernardino shooters iPhone? But they can access it anyway, and here's the explanation I gave what you think is correct is Once it so big the guy was you know was gone was dead to the phone was locked that was a different problem That's getting into. It as an issue when someone's using the phone It's not that hard to get you know to piggyback somehow gets something in there exploit the zero-day

52:32 The the code that is that is exploitable and then all you need is to be able to see the screen And see what your tapping on the keyboard. That's how you get around all the encryption stuff That's all I need yeah, keyboard logger You get your passwords and anything you want. They may be even screencasting... You get a keylogger in there, which is one of the things Zero Point might do or Zeroday. Yet you open the system up enough for it to push a key logger onto into the code and let them just then you just get everything they're doing every time they type something in it gets sent to the central servers Which you know there are keyboard logs There was a company in New Zealand that's really kind of made

53:14 kind of made an art out of this. I don't know how many spooks or agencies, but they did it with the old compact computer. This was some years ago. They actually sold a compact... And you could buy these from this company in New Zealand. It was a compact computer keyboard that complete keyboard looked just like the original OE. It looks perfect. But it had a key logger built into the keyboard? It had a key logger build-in. Beautiful! There's nothing you can do about that. There's absolutely nothing you can do. And that thing is broadcasting Bluetooth and all kinds of great stuff, oh nice! Yeah that was a... I'm sure there are other keyboards around like that come with certain computers

53:57 With the got the key when you once a key logger is built into the system like that. You there's no Antivirus anti-mail where there's no way unless you can monitor your outflow of your of your internet connection Which is damn near impossible I see yeah, well? I see a report that You may have a keylogger if if your keyboard mysteriously mutes your system Yeah, I'm just saying though it's possible yeah You never know with these keyloggers. And once you have a key logger, you can get everyone's password and... Now of course none of this is discussed in the corporate media not that I've seen no one has really discussed Zero Day exploit well they're asking the question that's appropriate he's not answering I don't think they actually understand the question Panetta may but PBS people I don't think they really understand what they're talking about No nobody knows what they're talking about and it was just and I think that that Assange named it the zero day

CHAPTER 12 / 39 Discussion

Trump Wiretapping Claims, Leon Panetta and Trust

President Trump's claims that the Obama administration wiretapped Trump Tower are analyzed alongside media reactions. CBS News anchor Scott Pelly questioned Leon Panetta about the president's "rationality" and the "coin of the realm," which Panetta defined as trust. The segment also features General Michael Hayden's appearance on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, where he dismissed the possibility of a direct wiretap by Obama.

donald trump· wiretapping· leon panetta· scott pelly· trust· stephen colbert

54:55 Yeah, as a wink-wink. Try to say hey here's a hint you might want to look at that... Look this term up because there are some kind of things that maybe apply to it yeah and it was still duh oh that guy you know he's ruining for everybody you know Snowden Snow is it so CIA snowed and I mean the whole thing is this the reporting on This is just terrible, and it's gonna be more funny as we go along And he keeps bringing out new stuff. I wish you'd bring it out in a faster clip Well this is clearly coordinated To me, there's no doubt that Trumps tweet whether in collusion or he had knowledge of WikiLeaks. Whatever there is some collusion between Wikileak and the president That was no coincidence You throw something big out there about people wiretapping you Boom! Immediately you get oh and here how they do it

55:48 Now here's what you have to do if you're the mainstream media because you still got to keep this guy Trump under wraps and maybe get him You know fight. Yeah, he's got attack him so we have Scott Pelly With Panetta yeah, I'm sorry on this other idea of the opening is opening question I have yeah, I do this is Scott Pelly with Pineda very weird now This is what? The question wasn't as interesting to me as the introduction of Panetta. I have never in my life, watching TV or even getting into polar analysis where this sort of weird introduction to Panetta is used! I've never seen it before! Especially from the Tiffany Network

56:32 The Tiffany News Network, CBS touted as top notch. I agree with that. I'm thinking about kind of preface it for people what he's going to do is he's gonna before he brings Panetta on, he's going to give his background to try to give us some qualifications why he's talking about anything even though normally they just bring him on and let him talk we kinda know who he is but they go on and on and now with all these uh... he does this, he does that great guy and he was this before he was that, and then he went to college. All the stuff it looks like something on LinkedIn." And I'm just thinking, why were they doing this? Was it was there a code in here is there something that you know somebody oh you know something somebody's gonna say. So we have to look for some key to something i have no idea at the White House well today We wanted to get some insight into all of this from Leon Panetta first let us remind you why Washington listens when he speaks

57:29 Panetta was chairman of the House Budget Committee, director of the Office of Management and Budget. White House Chief of Staff under President Clinton, Director of the CIA when Osama bin Laden was killed Secretary of Defense under President Obama and is co-founder of the Panetta Institute for Public Policy In the last few years he's a coffee drinker and loves Merlol That's all that was missing. In the last few weeks, he doesn't kick puppies policy in the last few weeks of president has told his military that there are terrorist attacks no one knows about because the press covers them up

58:08 He's described the news media as the enemy of the American people. He has likened his own intelligence agencies to Nazis, and now we have a wiretapping charge against President Obama." Is it appropriate to ask whether the president is having difficulty with rationality? Yeah I agree and when I heard that... And this is new! This is new everyone's now doing The List And he didn't actually do the appropriate list of all the things that Trump has lied about or is wrong about or is nuts about. But this is, this is the thing... He did this, he did- All these I think demonstrably debunkable facts from the universes we straddle

58:50 They're just being put out time and again as 100% truth. Without any question, because hey it's Trump it can't be right and then to say this is your problem with rationality Wow okay which is a butchess might as well you say do you think he's unhinged guess who's not going to be invited to the next gaggle I'd say CBS News is on deck I would say yes that yeah Well, I have Panetta's answer if that's not interesting. I just clipped it just in case because it was the question that was the most interesting part but Panetta kind of agrees with him Of course well you can't really because it's and you have to see the video he starts Like his smiley is trying not to laugh and it takes him a good two or three seconds to start his answer

59:42 It does is having I cut that out. Oh you got the quick cut the paws out That was the best part inality Scott the dog took him like smack and his lips The coin of the realm for the coin of the realm yeah, that was another interesting one The coin of the realm. I've never heard of this! It's an old phrase, in fact i want to do something on today's show talk about it a little while about kind of isolating some of these old phrases and making a list like a definitive no agenda list we started one of these i think yes we did but we never followed up now i have a file that i can open and will just add to it oh good and um but coin of the realm is one of them you guys it's you should look it up and read their official definition but it kind of means

1:00:29 What does it mean? It kind of means your, what you use to operate. What do you use to operate the coin of the realm is what I think that's what it means. I got for some reason coin of the realm let's just see what the book of knowledge has to say. Coin of the Realm thats Miriam Webster should we take her yes okay come on Miriam Miriam Miriam the legal money of a country, something valued or used as if it were money in a particular sphere. So it's valuable capital I guess? Yeah, I guess something like that. The coin of the realm. Scott, the coin of the realm for any president is trust. Trust of the American people and credibility of that president and when he says things that he says

1:01:27 this allegation about wiretapping that has no bit of evidence to support it. It raises concerns about trust in the president because there are one or two conclusions you draw One is that he says these things knowing that they're not true I love this In order to divert the public Now, i really love this Because this just shows you the hubris and the arrogance, and he gives you a number of choices. Notice the choice that is not there is... He's right! This is what's true because we haven't proven otherwise but instead you get these choices. Says these things knowing that they're not true in order to divert the public And if he's doing that he's misusing the powers of the presidency

1:02:20 Or he truly believes... Says who? Which is now being claimed as an impeachable defense, uh offense. Yeah good luck to the presidency Or, he truly believes that they are true when indeed they're not true. And he hasn't tried to find out the truth which then shows a real lack of judgment either way I think it undermines and weakens the strength of the presidency in this country. How? And of course the option is well maybe uh... Maybe it's true! No, he believes that it possibly is true. Well if you want to hear the answer to the possibly true I do have General Hayden, the war criminal Yes He's on Colbert Yeah And Hayden is asked by Colbert about the wiretap Uh general let's get straight into the heat of the meat here On Saturday morning The heat of the meat? Is that also an old phrase? Never heard of it The heat of the meat

1:03:25 The heart of the matter is what he wanted to say. But he said, the heat of the meat? Yeah I don't know what he's thinking... I don't know why but i'm obsessed about this kind of stuff. I'll look it up. Now uh General let's get straight to the heat of the meat here on Saturday morning at 6 35 in the morning the president tweeted that Barack Obama wiretapped him in Trump Tower right Is that possible No! Oh yeah! Yeah! No! No! Obama phone Heat of the meat. According to Urban Dictionary, the mass of her ass times the cube of her boob times the angle of your dangle that is the heat of the meat Wow! So would you like a further explanation? When you are... I'll read it verbatim if you're sensitive don't listen If so when you're railing a... This is a rude term he just dropped on national TV He dropped that He dropped it man Okay so heat of the meat

1:04:31 I'll just do the whole thing. The heat of the meat means... ...the mass of her ass times the cube of her boob times the angle of your dangle So when you're railing a girl and she complains it's too hard, You tell her that the mass of your ass and the cube of your boob must be wrong because the angle of my dangle is right on Oh sorry i read it to ya now Like a mediocre poem Yeah but that's what Colbert was talking about So I think someone should write a nasty note to the FCC on this. Can't say stuff like that! So, I'm taking it back to Stingray and we'll take a break and come back with that. It's very easy to say not wiretapped. It is very easy to say CIA, NSA, FBI didn't wiretap.

CHAPTER 13 / 39 Discussion

Stingray Surveillance, Admiral Rogers and Trump Tower

Former CIA analyst Larry Johnson suggests that while a traditional wiretap may not have occurred, intelligence agencies likely used "Stingray" devices to monitor communications at Trump Tower. Johnson claims NSA Director Admiral Rogers visited Trump Tower to warn the president-elect about the misuse of surveillance authorities, leading to calls for Rogers' dismissal by other intelligence officials.

stingray· admiral rogers· nsa· trump tower· larry johnson· surveillance

1:05:16 Because this is what local police enforcement uses. They have the stingray, they can park their van right outside Trump Tower or fly the plane over the city the way they've done in many U.S cities and just suck up everything into the stingray...everything! And that's how they did it and I'll tell you how we know that's how they did it or how they know let me see Here we go. This is a former CIA analyst, of course he's an RT guy, Larry Johnson talking... Oh, Johnson yeah he's great Yeah here he is talking about what happened the time the timeline this is something you didn't know on the last show and I didn't either until I got the timeline but the timeline is important Donald Trump is in essence correct that the intelligence agencies

1:06:03 And some in the law enforcement community on the side of the FBI were, in fact illegally trying to access monitor his communications with his aides and with other people. All of this with an end to trying to destroy and discredit his presidency. I don't think there will be any doubt about that, but it's worth noting that the head of the National Security Agency, Admiral Rogers made a journey to Trump Tower shortly after Trump had won And in the immediate aftermath of his visit, Jim Clapper and others in the intelligence community called for him to be fired

1:06:45 Now, why did Rogers go to Trump Tower? My understanding is—let's call it was to cover himself because he was aware that the NSA had been—the authorities had been misused and abused with respect to Donald Trump. There you go. And that makes more sense than anything else we've heard. Yeah, and everyone has got their own favorite ex-CIA analyst. Well, this one's on RT so he must be... He's probably been co-opted by Putin by the Russians. Oh yeah! Yeah, hookers! And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John C! The c stands for Chinese are coming! Dvorak! In the morning to you Mr Adam Curry also in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air

CHAPTER 14 / 39 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Knighthoods and Sonny Liston

The hosts acknowledge high-value donations, including a $1,000 contribution for a "Dame" title. A donor from Springfield, Missouri, shares a story about a tour of the old Missouri State Penitentiary, noting that boxer Sonny Liston was held in cell number 33. The segment includes a mention of an upcoming book on the benefits of vinegar and various "jobs karma" requests from the audience.

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1:09:19 To her moon? Okay, or could have been her man is a typo. And can I get a Jobs Karma also and you play the are you going to love president Trump the song at the end of the show? I don't know which song he's talking about. She. Which song is that? I think it's just Trump yelling You're Going to Love President Trump. No that's Love Trumps Hate I don't know what that is. Maybe play that song and you should think of what it is then It was cut off so sorry a Dame, okay? She wanted a jobs karma yes no problem jobs Jobs Jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs

1:10:04 You thought, karma. All righty! Then we got from $456 and 78, it's at 456 dot 7 8 a great donation from Hey or Sir Hey Idiot. So Sir Hey Idiot has requested to see what is 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 is that zero I guess somewhere in the world? At 11 p.m no less please give me ants I got ants Alright, briefly then. Hit it JCD! I got ants... I got ants You've got karma Nice Okay that was cute And no agenda favorite It is David Lane $333.33 from Springfield Missouri came with a check and note and its also made as knighthood My donation this week takes me to Knighthood Please knight me Sir David of the Show Me State

1:11:08 I've also added a second check in the amount of $19.95, i want to pre-order Mr. Dvorak's vinegar book! The book will sell out quickly! Can you get it on Amazon? You know that people can pre-register and it is coming I could probably. And now, I'm telling you why. I'm going to give him an autographed copy with a note. A few items related to the number 33... Sure. ...I traveled to Jefferson City Missouri last year and take a tour of the old Missouri State Penitentiary that operated from 1836-2004 One of the prisoners that became famous was Sonny Liston Oh yeah

1:11:46 He became a professional boxer and fought against Muhammad Ali. One tour guide mentioned that in his second fight against Ali, in 1964 he was thought to be fixed since Mr. Liston was knocked out in the first round What I found out to be most interesting is that the cell number was Cell 33! He's got a picture attached The final part of the tour consists of going around to the rear of the prison, to see the gas chamber. At the back of the prison there is a large parking lot where a large number of government vehicles are stored I noticed that every one of the license plates began with the number 33 Every one of them! Wow... This is an attached picture Just for a split second i actually thought i was being punked by you two

1:12:36 I even thought, looked around to see if you were running towards me with a camera crew to film my reaction but then i quickly came into my senses knowing that you two would never go all that trouble for any slave. Keep up the good work gents and please play the woman saying it is she's a rule follower following by Leo saying he's a rule follower and thanks Sir David of the show-me state which gets knighted later." If I could spell rule follower that would be better okay Rule follower and what did he want after that? The two rule floors I give him a karma the Karma, okay. I'm a rule follower So if the rule is that we have to do it then I'll do it. I'm a rule follower right What do you do are your rules all over jobs jobs and jobs? And a free jobs carmen I have to

CHAPTER 15 / 39 Discussion

Global Listener Feedback, London No-Go Zones and Meetups

Listeners from Southern California and London provide "boots on the ground" reports, with the London correspondent debunking the existence of "no-go zones" in the city. The hosts announce a meetup in Victoria, BC, and celebrate the return of the "No Agenda Search" tool. They also mention new community-driven websites like SnopesforSnopes.com and Hitlersplaybook.com.

london· gentrification· victoria bc· no agenda search· snopes· roku

1:13:30 May I have to ask our new knight here would soon-to-be new night. He's got to get me a JPEG file of this sunny listing cutout sitting next to the cell number 33 I just Because it is very funny, yeah, it's very funny okay on love it Where are we? Okay, here we go. Anonymous Pat from SoCal also sent in a note $201 and I'll read the note from him it's short note encloses two or one dollars to support the best podcast in the universe and multiverse. I introduced my parents and sister Samantha girl to your podcasts and they are now loyal listeners. This is my first donation of many eventually reaching knighthood as well as a down payment to the future

1:14:19 Oh, and a down payment to the future Kerr-Dvorak endowment chair for the media deconstruction. Okay maybe at USC? Onward. No jingles no nothing? He said nothing! No I'm looking... Give him a karma just as a you forgot to ask for a jingle. You've got karma Sir Luke the Baron of London in London, England $200. Hi guys sir Luke the Baron here I've been a bit of a douche of late but this being my first donation at 2017 the show keeps going from strength to strength however one small thing as a lifelong Londoner or I can tell you that London does not have

1:15:02 no-go areas. If it did, I would be trying to purchase property there wisely. Maybe 20 years ago there were some dodgy places but now there is literally nowhere that hasn't been touched by gentrification and foreign investment. I'd like a Karma for my first bike ride of the year this Sunday keep up the great work! All right thank you thank you for that boots on the ground report it's highly appreciated You've got Karma And I do have some prime minister question time for our... PMQ, yes. Yeah. PMQT. PMQ. Jeff Gubka in Gilbert Arizona 200 first-time donor computer information systems college student here thank you for keeping me sane and teaching me more than most of my classes to do

1:15:56 Oh, well send us your tuition money then. All I ask for is some interesting internship karma in the form of jobs karma and a 33 is the magic number jingle. You got it! That's the magic number. Jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You thought... Karma. Boom shakalaka And those are our executive and associate executive producers for show 910 And I want to thank them all. Remember, we do have another show coming up in just a very few days the Sunday Show 9-11 and we're starting at 11 which reminds me i've got to get these guys as of 9-11 they're going to do a little promotion because 9-11 is coming up and showing 9-11 send me an email! And a reminder that the United States will be on daylight savings time so we go back an hour Europe will not change yet that's uh...that it's because the elites like to mess with us as you know

1:16:54 No other reason. Yeah, so we'll be doing the show at 6 in the morning? Something like that I have anyway yes you 9-11 guys send me a quick note today with the subject line 911 I have a couple of PR mentions remiss Couple of PR mentions today Stephen Willard has organized this Victoria BC meetup March 11th That is... So what is that Saturday? It is a Saturday and March 11th at the moon underwater brew pub And there is an email address wishes, and this is in Vancouver or Victoria Victoria BC okay? And that's some nice brew pubs

1:17:37 Well, this should be one of the better ones and I'll put this under the PR heading in the show notes as 910.noagendanotes.com Second very happy to say that Chris McClymott is back You don't remember that name He is the guy behind The No Agenda Search And he apologized profusely. Life got in the way, you know how it happens and search dot NA show notes is back up and rolling an it's better than ever its current It's fast. It's rocking and rolling nice Yeah I appreciate that and appreciate everyone who did look at the github code but maybe started something But I'm happy we don't pressure people hey You go overboard on either the show or whatever you do what okay there was no hard feelings never worry about us

1:18:23 We're used to it. These initiatives come and go, but I'm happy that he's keeping it running and also said hey if you wanted to move on. Well we have a couple of guys that are kind in the background that just kinda... You know there is guy who keeps up our... Who should put his name on the wall so I can thank him? Who keeps up our feeds on the Roku box Oh yes! We have guys running torrent feeds. You got some torrent guys? We have a bunch of these guys that we should write their name on the wall and thank them every so often, and we don't do that. And it's just our... I will make this a point. I will start collecting names. We have to start doing this because it is important. Yeah, so Chris... I mean, that search guy is a good example. He bails out for a month, then next thing you know doesn't work at all

1:19:10 And it's important that they had the same thing with the Roku guy. They're all important people. Yeah, and the search of course is nicely integrated into noagendaplayer.com so you can find something and then click and it'll take you to The No Agenda Player and play the piece. It's really dynamite! It's actually a commercial product. It's fantastic yeah, it truly is. Yeah we should talk about that one other mention is John of Jupiter. This is the guy who brought us SnopesforSnopes.com as the website you want to go to, and he has a new one that forwards to The No Agenda Show, Hitlersplaybook.com Amazing! That was available

1:19:52 Hitler's play. Yeah, it is amazing There's a lot of stuff people are like because there's all these nobody cares if it works dot-com It's not as important as the ones that was hitler split yet there goes forwarding right to know agenda show calm Hitlers playable plate yeah That's good. That's real good for us I'm sure that I'm sure the SEO will be dynamite yeah anyway we really appreciate I heard about you guys on stormfront and Appreciate the help that we got from our executive producers, associate executive producers today for episode 910. As John said we have another show coming up on Sunday getting up an hour earlier but please consider us at devorak.org slash N A and you can go ahead use the no agenda search to well I don't know Our formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth Rapture Falls? Slaves! Shut Up Slaves

CHAPTER 16 / 39 Discussion

Linguistic Preservation, Old Phrases and "Coin of the Realm"

The hosts begin compiling a list of archaic or colorful English phrases to preserve in a digital file. Terms discussed include "fuss budget," "skivvies," "hoodwinked," "jamoke," and "the wreck of the Hesperus." They invite listeners to submit their own favorite old-fashioned words for future segments.

linguistics· idioms· coin of the realm· skivvies· jamoke· wreck of the hesperus

1:21:01 Shut up, slave! So can we take a little moment and do this little thing with our list of sayings that would be cool to bring back? What was the one that we just talked about? I already forgot it. The coin of the realm. Coin of the realm right. I'm gonna put on the list Are you keeping the list or am i keeping the list? I am going to keep the list as a file on this podcasting computer not my other one That's gonna be called oldusages.text And when we talk about this, I'm gonna bring this file up because it's going to be around the desktop and we're just add to it. Okay distribute one that gets big enough but what else did we have? That was...I got a couple of crypes Of course is one of the ones I've always liked to use Yes Crypes, crikey and I've got a couple of the ones that I picked up they got me into this idea that I picked up over the weekend okay uh and I just casually said it I was talking to Mimi and she and I said there's a word that our parents used to use

1:21:59 Fuss budget. I'm not familiar with this one. Fuss budget, like a person that's you know fuss budget there are you can do self-explanatory as a fuss budget you know well these pens aren't straight another one Because JC and Jesse were living here for... they finally moved back to the little house, but they were living here for a week or two while they're working on the other house. And he always gets up in the morning and the only way they describe what he's wearing is skivvies! Oh, skivvies yes. He was just dressed in his skivvies Yeah, he had his skivvies on. Which is kind of like a raggedy t-shirt the way I always saw it Hoodwinked? Bamboozled? Any of these? Hoodwinked... let me put it on Bamboozled Dumbfounded Bamboozled Dumbfoundead that's good What else? You know Tina keeps using this we came up with jabroni But she uses jamoke

1:23:01 Jamoke. I've never heard of jamoke. Yeah, jabroni and jamoke. Jamoke is east coast. Well she's not east coast but... That's where it comes from you hear jamoke a lot. I love jamoke. I also have something my mom used to use. We still use gypped. Gyipped yeah which is... You're not allowed to use it because you're saying your making reference to gypsies. The crooked gypsies? Yes So my mom used to always say this, and I didn't realize what it really meant until I saw a photo. And when I was a kid she'd say your room looks like the wreck of the Hesperus! Nice!

1:23:42 The wreck of the Hesperus? Yeah, that's just a guess. And so I saw a picture online some years later which was a photo of the wreck of the Hesperus and now i know what she meant! It is the biggest mess I think that has ever been created by a ship sinking or blowing up whatever they all happen to be. Oh, I didn't know this. Outrageous! What was it? Such a mess and I guess it became a phrase in the 30s or 40s whenever the ship blew up Nice. Anyway, that's about all I got right now. Well it was a good start. So if anyone has any of these and want to just email us put in the subject line put words and we will put 9-11 in the subject line don't worry about it be fine but 911 on for the other thing but words would be good

1:24:32 And I like it. It's a good idea. All right, well... I think it is a great idea because you know I've seen these lists online they always blow and you always have to hit next to get a whole new page of advertising. Next! Disgusting Hey John hop in the machine man Are You Ready? Here we go Get into the alternate universe straddle machine From this day forward It's going to be only America First Welcome to the straddle of the universes. We got a headache from that one and that dog is always there too. Where's this dog come from? Okay, so I have a number of clips from the alternate universes and i want to share them with you

CHAPTER 17 / 39 Discussion

Jane Kaczmarek, Deplorables and Moral Character

Actress Jane Kaczmarek appeared on the Tavis Smiley show, referring to her family in Milwaukee as a "basket of deplorables." She expressed a lack of concern for the feelings of Trump supporters, claiming the president has trampled on civil rights and moral character. The hosts critique her stance as representative of a broader refusal to find common ground in American politics.

jane kaczmarek· tavis smiley· deplorables· civil rights· trump· hollywood

1:25:30 And this is probably, I need to play this one first because this is the attitude that I'm seeing on the face bags. The attitude in general from people who are...who did not vote for President Trump maybe not, but people who voted for Hillary Clinton and are sad that it didn't work out This is of course a Hollywood person actress Jane Kaczmarek best known for her role as the mom in Malcolm In The Middle and she's on the Tavis Smiley show You know, just listen to what she's saying and how she is breaking her own boundaries of reasonable conduct. I refer to my family in Milwaukee as my favorite basket of deplorables!

1:26:16 And, you know I think the gloves really have come off in this. In that you know the thought of not hurting someone's feelings or not...I find this president has so hurt the feelings of every human being in this country and the civil rights that he is trampling on So I'm not too worried about hurting the feelings of him or the people who support him Yeah and I know we're not supposed to do that at school they're telling all their children You know you have to find common ground Sorry, there's no common ground. Yeah fuck it kids go ahead there is no common ground just do whatever you want and you just realize fight resist resist resist

1:26:54 And you just realize, I turned 60. I'm 61 now but... I kind of thought the rest of my days after President Obama was going to be like we are now living in that country We turn the corner! Yeah yeah yeah and i never thought my next 20-30 years would hopefully get back to where were supposed to be as human beings and moral characters in this country and world Well why don't you start with yourself? It's gonna be a moral character. What civil rights is he trampling? Well, not only is he trampling on civil rights, he's hurting everyone's feelings. Okay everybody... Everybody's feelings John! Completely hurt everybody's feelings now this... Got her family of deplorables back in Wisconsin. Now this is very interesting this is on CNN

CHAPTER 18 / 39 Discussion

CNN Photo Policy, Nancy Pelosi and Sexist Jokes

CNN's John King discussed a policy of not showing "canned" press photos of President Trump signing executive orders. Meanwhile, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi faced questions from Jake Tapper regarding a sexist joke made by Congressman Cedric Richmond about Kellyanne Conway. Pelosi deflected the criticism by referencing President Trump's past comments on the Access Hollywood tape.

cnn· nancy pelosi· kellyanne conway· cedric richmond· sexism· jake tapper

1:27:42 John King, I think it is. And he's apparently now has a roundtable show as well. Everybody does on CNN. So CNN has taken a stand about publishing photos of the recent executive order signed by the president because it was a press pool photo. Listen up, this is a signature issue of this president he would very much like to be front and center in revising it and improving that I'm sticking with this I'm going to be resilient though he criticized the judges publicly but the fact that we won't show you the picture if the president signing an executive order there's incredibly important his administration at a very important policy debate in our country we will not show you the picture because we have a policy that you cannot have canned press release pictures from a White House if you have to let the reporters in the president's a big boy he doesn't have to answer questions if they're shouted Adam but they will

1:28:27 let anyone in because of the other issue. Bullshit! Please, you publish nothing but pictures that were done by Obama's personal photographer all the time there was a little complaining about it but you gave up and you totally published those pictures I found that to be unbelievable Lies! This is a mystery. This is very low. In the alternate universe, saying horrible things about women Bad if you're Trump, but if you're a Democrat it's okay. Especially if you are black Democrat Nancy Pelosi commenting on very sexist comments from one of her colleagues towards Kellyanne Conway I need to ask about this crude joke that was told this week by a member of your caucus Democratic Congressman Cedric Richmond at the Washington Press Club Foundation annual dinner At the expense White House Counselor Kellyanne Conway Take a listen And you can just explain to me that

1:29:34 that circumstance because she really looked kind of familiar in that position there. So what he's saying, and this is Kellyanne Conway who was on her knees on the couch The joke is a blowjob joke We get it. Oh, play again Yeah she looked pretty familiar in that position I guess maybe she's blown him that circumstance because she really looked kind of familiar in that position there. No, I was gonna say O-M-E-S. Okay well the conversation that ensued between Tapper and Pelosi is straight out of the alternate universe Leader Pelosi the joke was sexist it was disgusting um shouldn't Disgusting? It's a blowjob Joe Tapper easy Was sexist it was disgusting um Shouldn't the congressman apologize to Kellyanne Conway and honestly where is the Democratic Party in expressing outrage about this But I wasn't at the dinner I'm just finding out about this but

1:30:40 The fact is I... I wasn't there. I didn't just hear the joke, but let me say something about Trump. I wasn't at the dinner. I'm just finding out about this but the fact is that I am still in sort of state what's going on here that the person who occupies White House was the person who was on that Hollywood video and said crude things he said about women So this is her response? Some guy made a blowjob joke about a woman who was famous in the Trump administration. Yeah, I don't know about that but my god did you hear him say grab her by the pussy? You all are criticizing Cedric for something he said in the course of the evening and maybe should be criticized for that. I just do not know the particulars but I do every day marvel at the fact that somebody has said the gross and crude things President Trump's said

1:31:33 He wouldn't even be allowed in a frat house and he's in the White House. Oh man, does she not understand the irony of this? This is crazy! You're being critical of this guy and maybe he made it off-color joke but Trump is horrible! I think we've covered the Access Hollywood tape quite a bit, but i guess like the question is if one criticizes only Republicans when they make crude comments does that not undermine the moral authority? If they don't criticize when Democrats make crude comments. Well I think everybody was making crude comments and I just...I just don't know. I wasn't at that dinner Okay thanks douche

CHAPTER 19 / 39 Discussion

Barbra Streisand, Weight Gain and Crowd Sizes

Barbra Streisand tweeted that news of President Trump's actions causes her to eat pancakes and gain weight. In a separate media obsession, CNN filed a FOIA request for National Park Service photos to compare the inauguration crowd sizes of Obama and Trump. The hosts characterize these stories as evidence of "Trump Derangement Syndrome" in the media and celebrity circles.

barbra streisand· trump· pancakes· cnn· foia· crowd size

1:32:14 Douchebag. Wow, yeah I mean she wasn't there she just heard the material you just heard it Yeah do you have to be there? Oh i see oh he had his fingers crossed oh i get It now oh oh it was a different joke is about something else In the alternative universes, strange things happen. They happen to people and they need to tweet about them particularly celebrities. Barbra Streisand says Donald Trump is making her gain weight Yes! The singer tweeted Saturday that news involving the president now affects her morning routine Donald Trump is making me gain weight I start the day with liquids, but after the morning news... I eat pancakes smothered in maple syrup." Her tweet came after news broke over the weekend that Trump claimed Obama administration wiretapped into his Trump Tower phones during the 2016 presidential election. Trump just accused Obama of tapping his phone's. Seriously? Crazy times added Streisand. Time for more pancakes!

1:33:10 Yes, the alternative and this is news by the way. This is something that they want to report on yeah Of course was bad this is reminding me before you get into that out of the universe I don't wanna leave yet. Please don't leave no no it hurts to go back and forth uh It's this This is CNN online. They made a FOIA request to the Park Service to release photos of Obama in the trunk inauguration crowd sizes. It's like, this is what... Wait! This is something Trump said, you know out of the blue. I had bigger crowds than him it wasn't true by the way i want to mention that Rush Limbaugh actually had a long spiel about Trump and how people don't understand his style and they keep wanting to make him be like everybody else and he's not he's not going to do that right so he'll say stuff yeah and so they so these CNN guys are so preoccupied they're obsessed

1:34:07 With the stupid thing he said and so they're getting a FOIA request, images show the crowd sizes of Barack 2009-2013. And it goes on and on this long article I mean i'm sure Trump's forgotten about this by now 10 times over Well, then maybe he does these things to spin their wheels as he's being accused of. He definitely gets that accomplished! That's an accomplishment you have to... yes. You get all what? He said what?! Oh my god! In the alternate universe technology fails for the strangest reasons well not really strange reasons but you cannot cross the two universes

CHAPTER 20 / 39 Discussion

CNN Technical Glitches, Maxine Waters and Putin

A CNN segment featuring a congressman discussing FBI statistics on refugee-related terrorism was abruptly cut off by technical "gremlins." The hosts also review clips of Representative Maxine Waters, who suggested that President Trump takes his "cues from Putin" regarding the construction of a border wall and his management of Congress.

cnn· maxine waters· vladimir putin· technical glitch· refugees· terrorism

1:34:47 You can't. Shorts out? It's shorts out! This is what happened on CNN Do you think, as a member of the Homeland Security Committee it is necessary for the security of this country to put this ban in place Well, I'm on the Appropriations Committee. We oversee DHS funding of that. Thank you for clarifying that. But look, I think that – I just didn't want to throw any of those – take credit for that. But anyways, I do think it's important for our security and I think people overwhelmingly in this country want that as well too because again Just today, the FBI comes out and says that 30%, 30% of their domestic terrorism cases that they're investigating are from folks who were refugees. It's important not to label all refugees as bad people and that's not why I'm here but... I was just gonna say Congressman it's time to go but i think the TV gremlins did that for us Oh! The TV Gremlins The guy is saying something she didn't like Didn't fit in the universe

1:35:49 No, you gotta get kicked out. Immediately went to color bars! Boom right away it's amazing how these things just don't work that way now where? How come I don't know why have we not noticed Maxine Waters as a tremendous source of humor Wonder that myself. I did have a Maxine waters clip. I have a couple right here the problem that I'm having is is Is getting into the groove where I can isolate what's really funny as opposed to her just Rambling you got to make them short. Let's see yeah, no That's why I don't have any clips of her cuz like they're having trouble let's see if I was successful now this this clip

1:36:34 It's very short. Just listen to what she says, I think that the Obama administration has done everything that it can possibly do and that's probably been verified somewhat by The New York Times to make sure that enough people have seen some of the meetings and some of the connections So if i understand what she just said She is saying, oh I think the Obama administration did a great job at spreading intelligence reports to make sure that this news got out about the wiretapped info. Do you hear what she's saying there? Yeah again it's like she rambles into these crazy things...I liked the clip! I'm not gonna say yeah it was dumb

1:37:28 But again, this is her. You know that's why I don't think she's the goldmine we hoped for well Hold on there is some funny stuff almost see what this is right? I still think Sheila Jackson down in Texas is funnier and the wall that he was gonna build the big beautiful wall Now he's coming to the taxpayers and saying well I need you to pay for it even though He had said during their campaign. I'm gonna make them pay for it And now I'm gonna make them reimburse me so is not trustworthy, he makes promises. As a matter of fact I wonder sometime if he's not taking his cues from Putin

1:38:05 Because he thinks that he can do it. I just like how she said that, I don't know if he's not taking his cues from Putin! Taking his cues from Putin? Is Putin building a wall? What what's the connection there? That one is baffling She'll explain By the way what about Obama closing Gitmo and take that to the bank? Not trustworthy He makes promises As a matter of fact I wonder sometime if he's not taking his cues from Putin Because he thinks that he can do what Putin does in terms of just tell people what to do, direct the whole Congress what to do. And so I'm not surprised about these comments. I'm surprised that anybody believed him when he read from his script and when it came to the Congress. Unlike President Obama who never read from a script ever. He did when he read from his script when he came to the Congress instead of you know

CHAPTER 21 / 39 Discussion

Bakari Sellers, Russian Collusion and Logical Fallacies

CNN commentator Bakari Sellers argued that the Trump administration lacks credibility due to various contacts with Russian officials. During his segment, Sellers made several factual errors regarding staff titles and unemployment statistics while claiming it is "illogical" to have to prove a lie is a lie. The hosts mock his performance and the media's focus on the Russia investigation.

bakari sellers· cnn· russia· james comey· unemployment· lies

1:38:54 journalist saying oh he really did transform himself. He was so presidential I think he's on his way, I never believed that." Yeah take that Van Jones now you got Maxine Waters against you. Putin! Putin! Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin Putin The little more serious one is Bakari. I have a couple from before we go back, don't let me... I will not start the machine. I will not start the machine. But Bakari Sellers so i guess he was uh was the house representative in North Carolina? I think and this this is an perfect example of certainly seeing after there is named after the rum. No, I think he's been named after Peter

1:39:49 No, it's not. It's not Bacardi. It's Bakari sellers. Oh man! Here is how truth works in the alternate universe Well I think that one of the things this administration does not have is any trust or credibility When you look at the fact that not only has the president, vice president Sean Spicer and chief of staff Kellyanne Conway have all gone out their way an said there had been no contacts with Russia We found out that Michael Flynn and Jeff Sessions lied about that. We found out the Jared Kushner and JD Gordon and Carter Page have all had these contacts but to come back to what The president said in regards to this outlandish comment about the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama. This isn't the first time he's made outlandish comments I mean he said that 3 million people illegally voted He said that the unemployment rate of African-Americans was 50% plus. He also said we had 96 percent unemployment throughout the 96 million Americans who were unemployed. No! I mean this president makes these statements all the time and these statements are just... By the way, just stop for a second because i don't want you have go back an look for this

1:40:52 This in because he's all worked up about accuracy. He said Kellyanne Conway was the chief of staff Yeah, talk about accuracy yeah Just to mention that you know if you're gonna start being picky about them You know these little oh you said 295 is only 94 no the thing that he's wrong about Trump never said 95 million Unemployed it saying this is the kind of thing Let me just answer is not 95 million people unemployed, it's 95 billion people not participating in the workforce. Very different. Very different, Bacardi!

1:41:28 We're just gonna call him Bacardi from now on. He makes these statements all the time and these statements are just flatly lies, and so now we have to go back and prove a lie to be a lie which is a little bit illogical but the media has to do its job and do that this is... How how how is proving a lie to be a lie difficult? No! Let me back it up and say it again. How is proving a lie to be a lie illogical? Statements are just flatly lies, and so now we have to go back and prove a lie to be a lie which is a little bit uh uh illogical I don't understand what he's saying We have to go back and prove a lie was a lie which is kind of illogical? I don't understand What does how's that illogical? This is the kinda thing I've been hearing a lot of by the way

1:42:13 This I have examples of it is these guys say the weirdest stuff in fact? I have a clip from the alternate universe from CBS after you're done with this which has another Statement at the end, which is like what do you even what are you talking about? I can't wait. I can't wait all right Let's finish Bacardi but the media has to do its job and do that this is not something that is going to take us away from our eye being on that ball, which is the fact that apparently there are issues with Donald Trump his campaign his presidency and the Russian government. There's a new New York Times story out right now where Director Comey is asking the Department of Justice to stand up in an unprecedented fashion and shoot this down. And we have not confirmed just put that out there but go ahead No well thank you! And that's fine I mean Listen to his answer listen to his answer

1:43:03 Very rare that she says that his answer is phenomenal in fashion and shoot this down We have not done just to put that out there, but go ahead and that's fine I mean the point being is this president lies And it's fine at the point who gives a crap present lies. That's fine I mean the point being is that this president lies any lies often no he makes mistakes He maybe he lies But he makes mistakes like you just made four mistakes in that one bitch shut up Bacardi Douchebag I'm tired of these knuckleheads because i have to watch those a-holes all the time All right, so here is a and I do have another one for later when you're ready Okay We'll play it first and I want to finish with this. I want to get be the little I want It's because the longer we stay in this alternate universe. I know he'd lightheaded. I understand yeah Got another one hit it? Yeah This

CHAPTER 22 / 39 Discussion

Morning Joe, The Sabbath and Trump's Tweets

Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski suggested on "Morning Joe" that President Trump's weekend tweetstorms occur specifically when Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump are observing the Sabbath. The hosts dismiss this as a bizarre attempt to link the president's social media habits to Jewish religious practices, arguing instead that Trump simply has more free time on Saturday mornings.

morning joe· mika brzezinski· joe scarborough· jared kushner· ivanka trump· sabbath

1:43:56 is uh, it takes about 45 seconds to get to the meat of what Mika and Joe are saying from The Morning Joe's. But when you hear what it's ultimately about this is really an incredible statement. President Trump Saturday morning routine often involves spinning out of control and sending out tweets that then ricochet around the world. There was the Saturday before... Teets? Teets! Tweets are ricocheting John. Ricocheting around the world I like that so well written that line we have to use that I wrote a tweet that ricocheted around the world. and no action or results. John Lewis on Saturday January 28th he attacked the New York Times in The Washington Post calling them dishonest in all caps it was Saturday February 4th when he called a federal judge who halted his travel ban, a quote so-called judge and he attacked the media on Saturday February 11 over his daughter Ivanka's clothing business

1:45:02 Well, actually wasn't also a Saturday or was it a Friday where he called the media the enemies of the people? I think that may have been a late Friday but it is always going into the weekends and as I said before especially... Hey John stop it. I want you to hear this Let's pay attention. Stop playing with your pen, piss. I think that may have been a late Friday but it is always going into the weekends and as i said before especially when Jared Kushner and his daughter Ivanka are away for the Sabbath this all begins The implication being he's after THE JEWS

1:45:47 because of the Sabbath. I don't know if that's true! That's exactly what he is saying! No, i don't know if that's the implication? Oh yes, he's saying about the Sabbath! Yeah, he says the Sabbath but does it...but he's not tweeting about the Jews?! No, he's no Joe okay Joe is saying mainstream media He's saying all these Jew groups and then he said funny how he always tweets it when the Jews can't do anything because they have the Sabbath That's how I read it. That's how I heard it. I know what you're looking at there, but I don't see any evidence that every time he does these tweets they make a big fuss out of him. No! It's not true but thats what Joe is saying. That's my point. And Joe's full of shit. Joe? You're full of shit this is Satan goodbye. I would have never made the connection in a million years

1:46:42 He's tweeting on the Sabbath. The way I see it, Friday night he goes out and stays up too late and then he gets up in the morning and looks at the newspapers and makes some tweets because he doesn't work as hard on Saturday perhaps? Maybe likes to do it on Saturday. Has nothing to do with the Jews! Okay, he's talking... Raise this stuff up, Jews! And there he is talking about well when they all go into the Sabbath okay fine Yeah that's what he said. I know what he said. He's an idiot Well there's that You want to get out of this place because it's well, let me get my things out of the way first I got two clips while we're here. Here's one as a gem This guy the mayor of Los Angeles just got reelected as a Los Angeles Mayor Garcetti yeah

CHAPTER 23 / 39 Discussion

Eric Garcetti, Los Angeles Mayoral Election Turnout

Mayor Eric Garcetti won a second term in Los Angeles with 81% of the vote, yet the hosts point out that only 250,000 voters participated in a city of four million people. They highlight the discrepancy between the "inclusive ideal" claimed by Garcetti and the actual level of civic engagement in the nation's second-largest city.

eric garcetti· los angeles· election· voter turnout· mayor

1:47:28 Yeah, listen to the numbers involved in this victory. Los Angeles in the city of Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti has won a second term easily beating 10 rivals in Tuesday's election just 250 000 voters turned out in the nation's second largest city. Garcetti a democrat claimed 81 percent of the vote and said it's a victory for an all inclusive ideal. Everybody, regardless of their religion, regardless of their race or ethnicity, regardless of their legal status, regardless of whom they love, regardless of where they come from is a part of this Los Angeles dream and always will be as long as I am your mayor. Now how many people live in Los Angeles? Four million!

1:48:18 And it's all...oh, no. It's mainly liberals, Democrats who really believe in voting and... Yeah and they like to point out when you get X number of votes is a big deal. Yeah 4 million people 250 thousand voted but some big guy got 80 percent! Unbelievable That means he got about 200 thousand votes to become mayor Leaving 3.8 plus million people, you know it's unbelievable John I could get you to be There's no numbers we can get you to be mayor of Los Angeles campaign could do better We can make us yes, we can make you mayor of Los Angeles in a heartbeat That's easy go for it and I get the sense that nobody wants to be mayor now Here's the one that's got two twisting

CHAPTER 24 / 39 Discussion

Laura Hunter, Identity Theft and Fake Bloggers

CBS News reported on Laura Hunter, a Seattle photographer who claimed her identity was hijacked by a pro-Trump blogger in Tennessee. The report conflated identity theft with the common online practice of using stock or found photos for avatars. The hosts criticize CBS for framing a non-story about two women with the same name as a "fake news" crisis and an argument against online anonymity.

laura hunter· cbs news· identity theft· fake news· facebook· anonymity

1:49:05 screwy, makes no sense. This is a complete other dimension on CBS with Scott Pelley about this model I guess she's an X-Men universe or something whose name is Hunter and she's a New York photographer and there's a woman probably with the same name, it's not an uncommon name. Who lives and admits to being living in Tennessee with her dogs and cats in Tennessee And they're accusing her of because that I don't know if you ever noticed this but If you go on Twitter You'll see a lot of people that have pictures That aren't their pictures

1:49:49 Have you noticed this? You mean their profile picture. Yeah, the profile picture would be some model. No! No, you don't say?! Yes I've seen it and so they have all these phony profile pictures So this woman used this 100 women's picture because maybe they have the same name or who knows what But it's got this poor photographer in New York all upset and CBS is beside itself that anything like this could possibly happen. Which story is it though, John? I can't figure out... And this fake online persona! Ah, that's why couldn't figure it out. Here we are continuing effort to separate fact from fiction. We turn to the... Okay stop right there. Now what he's... Fact check false.

1:50:28 What he says there is that, because if the rest of the show is all this, oh Trump said this he's wrong. Trump said that he's wrong. Trump lied. So now the theme at CBS is to separate fact from fiction. Because this is their job now, so they're separating fact from fiction and so this is their example Our continuing effort to separate fact from fiction we turn to the story of a woman who had her identity hijacked she was turned into a fake blogger and that caused very real trouble Stop again I want you to define for me what's a fake blogger? A fake blogger would be somebody

1:51:11 Let me see a blogger is someone who writes a weblog. A fake blogger would be someone who says they're writing a web log, but doesn't? I'm saying! This is crazy! This universe hurts let's get through the clip. I'm getting nauseous. Blogger and that caused very real trouble here's... He's saying that as if a fake blogger is causing trouble. Yeah, but this is real trouble not just trouble I don't know what real trouble is and he never defines it It's just that some woman somebody misidentified her A fake blogger and that caused very real trouble Here's Carter Evans That is the most recent one. That's the Miss World crown Meet Laura Hunter photographer beauty queen And as for politics... I would lean a bit more to the liberal side

1:52:03 So it might seem Laura Hunter was living a secret double life. Far-right blogger, anti Muslim, anti immigrant and very pro Trump But this looks like you It's that's the picture of me That's my name Are these your beliefs? No it's bigoted its racist I'm not Racist. I'm not those things You wouldn't write anything like that? No, never But fake Laura Hunter has since August attracted nearly a million followers on Facebook through a site called the conservative daily post I started googling my name and wow Fake Laura even had a made-up bio living with her dog in eastern Tennessee but real Laura is a professional photographer and see it stop

1:52:44 How is that a fake? It's a fake bio if she's trying to impersonate this other Laura. Yeah, maybe her own bio just has... Maybe her actual bio did they check Let me just ask you, do you think they checked? Fact check false. Maybe tracked the woman down maybe they tried to say that we call... We didn't know what they did.. They should have at least said that. Should have at least said we could not reach the person for comment Well they do say that but they don't say it in the right context and you'll see what I mean. Laura is a professional photographer in Seattle She's filed a $50,000 lawsuit against those behind this site whose business address is a post office box Have you heard anything from them? No

1:53:21 Nothing at all. Neither did we after we reached out, but since the filing Laura's picture has become an avatar and something bizarre happened fake Laura's fans got angry at real Laura They think I'm the fake they think you're impersonating someone else Yes, they just go ballistic and how dare you. And Laura Hunter's a wonderful woman and you're just trying to ride her coattails. Fake news sites can generate thousands of dollars in ad revenue but operate in the shadows. Laura isn't sure she'll receive damages she just wants to restore her damaged reputation. Hold on... fake news site? Were they posting fake now all sudden it's a fake news site I thought that was a blog! It was a fake blogger

1:54:02 Now it's a fake blogger, fake blog. Now it's a fake news site making millions to make some million. She'll receive damages she just wants to restore her damaged reputation It's very simple if you can't confirm something don't post it Carter Evans CBS News Seattle Hey hey hey stop Did you hear what she said at the end? Yeah What has it got to do with the story? What's it got to do with her situation? What's that gotta do with their $50,000? Nothing. What's it got to do with another woman with the same name and I'm sure there are thousands of Laura Hunters There is a lot of Adam Currys too! There are thousands of Adam Curries And they're black! Lotta them Most of them Well...there you go Now play the little end again and tell me what this has to do with anything and why did they play it? Well...hold on a second

1:55:02 Let me just get to it. I'm sorry, I already dumped the clip out. Yeah, this is why... The reason that I wanted this complaint it's because of what she says at the end which is something that makes zero sense and I'm hearing a lot of this sort of thing. Well, I have an idea about this. I'm going to take you to the end then we'll listen to it one more time Here we go That's not a problem We can do this. Wants to restore her damaged reputation It's very simple If you can't confirm something don't post it Carter Evans CBS News Seattle If you can't confirm something, don't post it. This is her solution to her problem if you can't confirm something Don't post it What does it have to do with the fake blogger? No I think what I'm seeing Is a push...I don't think I have any of the clips I did see a number people talking about anonymity online That's coming back up again

1:55:57 that we need to do away with anonymity online. Okay, but this wasn't an anonymous account for all we know because no one checked it out there's a Laura Hunter in Tennessee she never said she was the photographer in New York She says she was in Tennessee It's a complete non-story! It's a complete non story and then has this crazy ending This is totally different universe stuff I'm not sure exactly how to parse it though. Part of it is... Well, I know how to parse it! It's the little innuendos where we're tracking fake stuff, tracking truth from lies. We got this and by the way this all because of Trump This is an anti-Trump piece And it starts off with a fake Laura or whatever she is down in Tennessee who likes Trump

1:56:50 Thus, she's a racist. Yes! Racist! And so you put the- You got the drop- You got the woman She's not like me I'm a liberal and she'd got this stuff posted and they say oh no This is all this is this is all racists because she likes Trump right? This is an anti Trump piece Gratuitous Anti trump piece that wasn't like you said it wasn't even a news story. This was bullshit who cares? You know here's what happens. I've seen this You see it if you go on these online sites. Your name is Laura Hunter, you find out that there's a Laura Hunter who is an outrageous beauty queen so you use her picture!

1:57:27 I mean, this is an unusual. It's like if you go to a chat room can I see your picture? They send you some random picture Oh it's a scandal! It's not a scandal This is the way online works And so you have this woman she never said she was the photographer in New York She clearly said she was in Tennessee So this is bullcrap of the highest order They should be ashamed of themselves at CBS Yeah they're not They're really not Pelly should be ashamed himself Yeah. Okay, I'm done. Let's get out of here. Alright, uh... buckle in! Buckle in! Buckle in! I find it helps if you just look at the floor then the spinning isn't that bad. Here we go! Why didn't he go? Why didn't he go?! What happened? Oh, you're playing Brian Williams. This is bad. Oh no. We're stuck here. Okay well I got another clip where were stuck. Oh... okay

CHAPTER 25 / 39 Discussion

James Clapper, FISA Warrants and Russian Collusion Denials

Former DNI James Clapper stated on NBC's "Meet the Press" that there was no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia included in the intelligence community's January report. Clapper also denied knowledge of any FISA court orders targeting Trump Tower, contradicting various media reports. The hosts examine the conflicting narratives regarding surveillance and the "Russian agent" terminology used by Democratic operatives.

james clapper· fisa· russia· collusion· nbc news· wiretapping

1:58:23 This is an odd clip. This is again on CBS, this is an overview on Trump that they play and by the way they're obsessed! This is getting out of control on CBS it's hard to watch The White House said today it does not believe the president is under investigation by the FBI. The question came up because of President Trump's insistence that his phones were tapped during the campaign on the order of President Obama Mr. Trump has not taken a question from reporters in the five days since he called the wiretapping claim of fact and called Mr. Obama a bad or sick guy the FBI has been investigating contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian operatives Russian? U.S intelligence has concluded that Russia did meddle in the presidential election we should call them ambassadors what they really are if you say operatives no, operators everybody's an operator let's get out of here let's get out of here let's get out of here I can't handle it push the button from this day forward it is going to be

1:59:28 Oh man, I got soot on me. I do have a number of clips about the wiretapping. Oh you do now? I do and i would like to share them with everybody because there was- and that could have easily put this in alternate universe but not necessary because they belong firmly in ours all of them really we just straddle

2:00:07 This is CNN, Amy Kremmer who was the co-chair of Women for Trump. A Trump supporter in conversation and explaining... I guess maybe we should backtrack a little bit It is very difficult for me to believe that...I'll just take New York Times there were other outfits The New York Times has a front page story about how Trump's people were wiretapped or, you know there was eavesdropping listening tapping going on. That's how they got... But the story that appeared in the January 2000, the January issue of The New York Times right on the front page where it said that Trump was tapped? Yes and and that's how they found out about Michael Flynn although we still have not seen the transcripts that would make him culpable to some crime

2:01:00 That has been promised. People say they've seen it and we're waiting for the transcripts, but that was in The New York Times. And then when Trump says hey they wiretapped me... No! But wait a minute The New York Times said they were well and this is kind of this clash here On the president's allegation against President Obama that he ordered a wiretap against Trump leading up to the election at this point if you're really looking at this the only people backing up the president wholeheartedly or his White House staff and even they if you listen to their statements are offering up, they couch every statement with ifs and maybes and could be and it's possible. Does that trouble you that no one else has seen the evidence yet? No it doesn't trouble me Kate I mean I don't think the president would have made that allegation if he didn't have some information indicating that

2:01:50 I think back to the IRS targeting Tea Party and conservatives. And when the president said there's not a smidgen of corruption going on there, and look what happened. And to this day no one has been held accountable. the evidence. I'm sure we will find out there were two FISA warrants that they went to court in June and then again in October, according to several publications that in June it was to investigate for... It's too bad you can't see the video so while she is saying this, I think actually Bacardi Sellers is a is one of the boxes on the screen and this woman whatever her name is, I forget

2:02:31 She is shaking her head like just you're telling lies here lady. You're just telling she's a CNN woman Yes, shaking her head making faces in June it was to roll your eyes on staffers And they were told to narrow their directly relate directly relating to the you've you have the reporting about these FISA applications This is according to the Guardian and New York Times reported this as well. And so they went back in October, and they were granted the permission to do it. So I don't think the president would have made these... That has to do with looking into questionable banking transactions between... It doesn't matter

2:03:12 I mean the thing is it was whether its phone what it could be voice over IP. I don't know whether it's computers, phone whatever It is they were granted access in October and the FISA warrants can be made public And I encourage them They should be put out there for the public to see but Paul come and comment Well, first Amy makes the point, makes the argument that the president wouldn't say this if it wasn't based in some fact or truth and I would like to believe that. But this is a guy who told us that Raphael Cruz, Ted Cruz's father the senator from Texas. That Raphael Cruz who himself was a Christian minister was somehow complicit in the Kennedy assassination This is a guy who told us President Obama wasn't born in America he was born in Kenya or something. Or something! He has subscribed every batty conspiracy theory again I'm trying to clean up my language for daytime TV Every batty conspiracy theory I think we can put that on our list

2:04:12 I don't know. I'm not buying the bad, but first of all what does he mean? What would he use instead of batty? I don't know He says it's where I got to clean up my language. I'm gonna use batty bullshit Instead of what bull crap yeah Okay, you didn't know what he was saying But I do like how well whatever did you have well in New York Times published that they had a FISA warrant Yeah, but that was just for something else Robbie Mook, former campaign manager for Hillary Clinton came on to Fox and Friends. Let me rephrase that went on Fox and Friends Well I think it's important to step back first of all and remember the facts here The facts are that Trump aides were caught talking to Russian agents and they were... Ambassadors? Agents!

2:05:05 I love the terminology. Agents! ...that Trump aides were caught talking to Russian agents and they were, those conversations were captured because the intelligence community regularly taps the phone lines of those Russian agents so... So wait a minute you say there was a wiretap? You say there was a wiretap that there was a wiretap of Russian agents and that those Russian agents were communicating with Trump staff. That's why they were picked up. How do you know? The intelligence community, that's what the intelligence community has told us. Uh, that's what's been reported very widely. Those are the facts

2:05:43 So, were there wiretaps of Russian agents? Absolutely. The question is why in the world were Trump aides talking to Russian agent so much? The Attorney General still hasn't come forward we know he lied to the Senate committee perjured himself he has not come forward to fully explain why we know what they were talking about no and that's what we really need to find out. We need to get to the bottom of exactly what was going on, Why were so many conversations happening in the first place? Okay So you hear how the story is built how it's put together

2:06:21 And I know we played a clip of Clapper, but I think...I don't know if it's the same clip. But I don't think you had this piece in it where he is asked point blank if there was any evidence of Trump-Russia collusion? I can't speak officially anymore but uh.. I will say that for the part of the national security apparatus that I oversaw as DNI There was no such wiretapped activity mounted against the president elect at the time or as a candidate Or against his campaign I can't speak for other Title III authorized entities in the government or a state or local entity. I was just going to say, if the FBI had a FISA court order of some sort for surveillance would that be information you would know? Yes You would be told this? If there was a FISA court order on something like this? Something like this absolutely And at this point you can't confirm and deny whether that exists? I can deny it

2:07:18 There is no FISA court order. Not to my knowledge. So the New York Times must be lying? Of anything at Trump Tower No Well that's an important revelation I'll say Let me ask you this Does intelligence exist that can definitively answer the following question, whether there were improper contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian officials. We did not include any evidence in our report and I say our that's NSA FBI and CIA with my office the director of national intelligence That had anything...that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians There was no evidence of that included in our report. I understand it but does it exist?

2:08:00 Not to my knowledge if it existed. It would have been in this order that this could have unfolded or become Available and the time since I left the government what? Time we had no evidence of such collusion there you go at the time now You didn't leave until January 25th, I believe well after these allegations were made No yes You know, he's been a...he lied before Congress. And maybe he was just the liar? I mean they always point to everybody else as the liar. Why can't this guy be? Well, you're saying there was no FISA court warrant that is interesting. Which nobody agrees with this. There's too much evidence that there were two of them. No. I'm not a fan of Kennedy on Fox because I worked with her and she was douchey at MTV. She broke my ass. I should probably tell the story.

CHAPTER 26 / 39 Discussion

Kennedy, Michael Peterson and CIA Spying

Fox Business host Kennedy and Lieutenant Colonel Michael Peterson debated the WikiLeaks CIA dump. Peterson argued that the CIA is "too busy" to spy on average Americans because their lives are uninteresting, suggesting instead that Google is the primary threat to privacy. A host shares a personal anecdote about a physical injury caused by Kennedy during their time together at MTV.

fox business· mtv· cia· google· vladimir putin· privacy

2:08:58 She broke your ass? Yeah, it was the MTV Beach House. Which was... The first year of that was fantastic! It was a great idea Everyone was out in the Hamptons and a huge mansion And we were doing our shows from there I think i was doing a segment with Kennedy on Wave Runners which are now mistakenly called Jet Skis and I was doing my segment stand still you know in the water and she thought it would be funny to ram her wave runner into me when of course I'm not expecting it from behind and what happens, i fall off and i fall on the edge of the WaveRunner with my ass. And it actually ruptured the muscle! So to this day I have a little dent in my butt. Thank you Kennedy

2:09:49 Well, I don't see why you'd ever like her after that. She couldn't even apologize. No! That was... she couldn't really even apologize. It was... it was... She's too busy laughing at you? But she well..she's you know....I think she's very insecure introverted person which is why she acts this way I did like this segment she did with a Fox News contributor, Lieutenant Colonel Peterson. Former Army intelligence officer. Yeah, I liked how she... Now I cut out most of what she said just to get to the... What do you call it? The nut! No the uh...

2:10:24 The coin of the realm. Oh, the coin of the realm? Of course it does. And this is Russian intelligence working through its cut-out WikiLeaks, trying to cover up for the blooper when the president said without any substantiation whatsoever that President Obama was wiretapping him. Nothing in this release says that the CIA was spying on the American people—nothing!

2:11:04 These techniques are techniques we use against our enemies. But I'm a patriot, and I've worked in intelligence—the CIA is too busy to spy on people's lives. It's not interesting! Their lives aren't interesting!" I would tell you the American people are being spied on— Yes. —not by CIA, not by NSA but by Google. Actually the tools revealed in this WikiLeaks dump are pretty basic. They're common sense tools, again we need these tools to work against our enemies. Kennedy you're a libertarian how can you possibly in any way come the defense of Vladimir Putin who kills his opposition I don't come to the defense if you've ever watched this show I don't come to the defense of Vladimir Putin You playing in the Putin's hands No and

2:11:49 I also won't give into the new Cold War hysteria, those flames that people are fanning for their own political convenience. And I'm glad Silicon Valley is going to stand up for itself and its customers and for privacy and defend some of these egregious steps that the government has made. They are defending their profits! They're greedy pigs! I agree with Lieutenant Colonel there at the end. I'll give you a borderline clip of that day just for the end of that clip That's why i played the whole thing I have uh couple more, just a couple more...I have two Martha Raddatz in this segment then I'll be done with it as she of course she was really on uh Martha Raddatz is aggressive She's really aggressive with people which I do like from a news reporter

CHAPTER 27 / 39 Discussion

Josh Earnest, Sarah Huckabee Sanders and Media Aggression

Former Obama spokesman Josh Earnest and current White House deputy press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders appeared on Sunday news programs to discuss wiretapping allegations. Sanders challenged the media to investigate the potential for FISA warrants under the Obama administration, while Earnest maintained that the White House does not influence FBI investigations.

josh earnest· sarah huckabee sanders· martha raddatz· fisa· obama· trump

2:12:41 Not so much the way it turned out here with former White House spokesman Josh Earnest. President Obama's former speech writer, Jon Favreau your former colleague tweeted I'd be careful about reporting that Obama said there was no wiretapping Statement just said that neither he nor the White House ordered it Can you categorically deny that the Obama Justice Department did not seek and obtain a FISA court order? This is very interesting that Favreau tweeted. Why would he feel the need to tweet that out? I agree, when it came out... Just so you know people, first of all President Obama didn't say anything and we need to talk about President Obama. He didn't say anything through channels or spokes holes and now this guy is saying words matter which is why the Obama administration was very good at this. There were no wiretapping's they didn't order it

2:13:37 Of course not. The fact is, even when I was in government, I was not in a position of being regularly briefed on an FBI criminal or counterintelligence investigation. The White House—no one at the White House including the President United States should be in a position in which they're trying to influence or dictate how that investigation's being conducted." Do you know whether the president was ever given information about surveillance at Trump Tower? What I can tell you well first of all

2:14:27 I'm not aware of all the details of how the president was briefed by Mr. Trump, his associates, his campaign that's for them to talk about? That is not something that was talked about or directed Or managed by the White House because this is a cardinal rule These are rules that have been in place since Watergate Let me ask you about reason It's amazing how many different versions of the story are out there and no one really has any proof No one has shown anything Pro or against Finally it was rather interesting Of course we've seen outrageous

2:15:17 From news organizations, yes. The White House sent out a number of people to combat the story on the news shows on Sunday—of course we were doing the show—and one of them is just funny to listen to I think...we'll see you will be seeing more for her I hope Sarah Huckabee Sanders is a deputy spokeshole for the White House and she is indeed Mike Huckabee's daughter who married a Sanders, and for a minute I was like no don't tell me she's also involved with Bernie Sanders but no. She married her dad's political consultant and so there you go kind of incestuous and she went on and she has a great accent she's completely the opposite

2:16:02 the opposite of what you just heard in Josh Earnest there. have also talked about and reported on the potential of this having had happened. I think the bigger thing is, let's find out! Let's have an investigation if they're going to investigate Russia ties let's include this as part of it so that's what we're asking Was the principal source The Breitbart story which links to The New York Times but The New York Times doesn't say anything definitive Donald Trump does What do you mean The New York Times doesn't say anything? They were very definitive in their piece

2:16:50 I'm confused by her saying that. What she's insinuating is that the president only reads Breitbart and they just put a little compendium together, and that was then his source? That's pretty rude! Donald Trump does. There is nothing equivocating about what he says I just found out that Obama had my wires tapped That's not looking into something He says it happened Look, the bigger thing is you guys are always telling us to take the media seriously Well we are today We're taking the report Good try Huckabee

2:17:28 to Oh my goodness a good one if That's a nice one. Yes, that says you better isolate that one okay? If

2:18:15 I agree. Why is the president saying it did happen? Look, I think he is going off of information that he's seen that has led him to believe that this is a very real potential and if it is this is the greatest overreach and the greatest abuse of power that I think we've ever seen in a huge attack on democracy itself and the American people have a right to know if this took place. Okay, you get the idea but what was kind On top of this, final one for me is Mika on Morning Joe took this initiative from these you know from these I think Kellyanne Conway was out and and this Huckabee Sarah Huckabee. Give them blow jobs Well what Mika Brzezinski is insinuating in this clip and she does this with Joanna Coles who I know she was my client Joanna Cole's worked at She was the editor-in-chief

CHAPTER 28 / 39 Discussion

Mika Brzezinski, Sexism and White House Spokeswomen

Mika Brzezinski and Joanna Coles discussed the "horror show" in Washington, with Brzezinski suggesting that the Trump administration purposefully sends women out to "clean up the mess" created by the president. The hosts argue that this critique is itself sexist and ignores the fact that women like Martha Raddatz are the ones conducting the aggressive interrogations.

mika brzezinski· joanna coles· sexism· sarah huckabee sanders· morning joe· media

2:19:11 Marie Claire and we were doing the Marie Claire website. There's a long time, maybe I don't know what we're doing Was that in the pod show days? Maybe was the pod show days I can't remember so we're doing something from memory and so I worked with her a lot She very nice British she is now the chief content editor for Hearst magazine Hearst magazines whatever that means She does it. She has a total show business background She actually was one of the co-creators of, I think Running in Heels and Project Runway.

2:19:48 You know, so she... Okay. We'll get to her. You got a background there? Okay. But Mika of course is saying that what was happening is the Trump administration or the president himself threw the women into the lions! I couldn't help but notice in the past half hour that people are being put out by the White House to clean up this just Mass doesn't even describe it, are women. And I'm not proud. Are these White House spokespeople? What?! What a sexist pig! Yeah well it gets better Are these White House spokespeople? I mean, how would you describe them? Joanna Coles. Go! Well first of all yes they are... Scum did she say scum? No. Are they white house press people and the answer is yes she's the deputy spokeshole which on her business card but what she's saying is Trump was throwing the women out there.

2:20:41 Well I watched poor Sarah wrestling yesterday but to be fair she was wrestling with Martha Raddatz so you do have women interrogating about it too. You're sitting on the other side of the desk, so feel like this is a sort of equal opportunity slugfest at the moment but i will say I went see a horror movie yesterday afternoon The new one by Jordan Peele Get Out and felt like nothing compared to the actual horror show going on in Washington What does popular culture respond at a moment like this? You know, I have no interest any longer in seeing... Stop this clip for a second. I am now as I listen to this particular clip wondering how this clip was left out of the visit to the other dimension. Of the alternate universe yes This is way better than it was earlier. This is outrageously and I don't know what they're talking about

2:21:35 Amika's off the... she's unhinged. Yeah, you're right I should have put it in a different segment but the unhinged part is that she believes Trump just threw out some women to go take the pounding, take the beating and then... That's what she believes. Meanwhile, she's a woman doing the beating and Martha Radish is a woman doing the beating and there are other women. It's only women! Except she goes off. She can't even answer the question. She just goes off into, oh it's a shit show. It felt like nothing compared to the actual horror show going on in Washington I mean it's like how does popular culture respond at a moment like this? You know has no interest any longer in seeing Homeland because it couldn't be as interesting as what's going on and you think how is anyone going to be able to compete with this Is this when you look at the job of The White House spokesperson and How history has shown them to be

2:22:30 Are these two women representative of what we want? Are they doing their job and exactly what is it that one of them I won't even have on this show. Well, clearly he hadn't included them before he sent the tweet right so they had no forewarning They had no idea what he was basing this on And as you say they're left to clear up the mess Ah yes! The women are left to clear up the mess Yeah of course its bull crap Where's the mess?! I don't even notice it I could be... Well, it's a dimensional thing. What am I supposed to say? Nothing again! But these people are completely... We're not talking about a thing that is very popular anyway but these shows... I also looked at the American Health Care Act and well i'm not going to go through it now because I don't know why everyone is trying to say it's horrible or its not These people need a lesson in civics and how government works

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American Health Care Act, Lottery Winners and Medicaid

The hosts examine a specific clause in the proposed American Health Care Act that targets lottery winners. The legislation seeks to prevent individuals who win over $80,000 from receiving Medicaid or government healthcare vouchers. They discuss the bill's status as a budgetary precursor to broader insurance market reforms.

healthcare· medicaid· lottery winners· affordable care act· budget· legislation

2:23:28 What I understand is this is part one. This is a part of the budget, so you can't actually put in a whole bunch of laws. This is just stopping a number of things that can be done on this budget there are two more bills that will have to go through after this is done. It's like a precursor. There is something funny in there. We're waiting for a complete report from you at some point but if you have something funny it could be used as a tease Yes! The funny thing in this report And you know, again it what it does is it stops the taxation mandate. That's the main thing that it does and they can do that because of the financial bill I'm not going to get deep into it because I would sound like a fool and people send me a lot of email but there are two more pieces to come so we're long way off from in particular changing the insurance market so they can go across state lines So anyone who was saying anything about this is full of crap It's not there yet

2:24:26 There is a whole clause in this, quite a long one about people who are lottery winners. If you win anything over $80,000 you should not have Medicaid or healthcare from the government or vouchers or anything like that. Is this a problem that I'm unaware of? Are there so many lottery winners? There's actually quite a few. That's a lot, man! But they tend to exploit the system... I don't know why they had to put it in. I think it was some sort of fraud involved anyway. Oh, I'm sure there is. I just thought that was interesting. It was a loooot of- Just a big section on this like okay fine yeah So there's real and now of course since I read the original Affordable Health Care Act

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Uber Valuation, Snapchat and Global GDP Comparisons

A financial report compares the market valuations of tech companies like Uber ($68 billion) and Snap ($30 billion) to the Gross Domestic Product of entire nations. Uber's valuation exceeds the GDP of Costa Rica and Panama, despite the company not owning its fleet of vehicles. The segment questions the sustainability of high valuations for companies based primarily on computer code.

uber· snapchat· gdp· valuation· tech bubble· costa rica

2:25:10 or Affordable Care Act, I should say. Of course I'm reading this and I will have a full report not there yet it's just not that anyone who is reporting on is talking out of their butt. Okay what time do we got here? Yeah we're little behind well maybe... We still have a segment to do. Well you know what why don't we do this. Plus since were going to talk about money I have a money clip okay Uber value oh can't wait to hear this one

2:25:46 Question, what has Costa Rica got in common with Panama? Answer they are both worth less than Uber. That is of course in a manner of speaking see when you look at gross domestic product Costa Rica sits around about 55 billion dollars a year similarly when you look at Panama it's around about 52 billion dollars a year and then you have Uber recently valued near 68 billion dollars. That is for an app, they don't even own the cars! And over there another tech startup small premises big ambitions huge valuation Snapchat parent company snap valued at around 30 billion dollars when it went public recently putting it above El Salvador Estonia, St. Lucia and Samoa among others the newest member of this billion dollar club question is how can apps which are basically computer code be worth such dizzying amounts What goes into deciding how much a company is worth when its worth such an astronomical amount?

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Alex Jones, Joe Rogan and the Y2K Confession

During an appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience, Alex Jones admitted that he was pressured by radio station management to promote Y2K doomsday scenarios to satisfy sponsors selling survival gear. Jones confessed that he eventually convinced himself the threat was real despite initial skepticism. The hosts use this as an example of how corporate advertising can compromise editorial integrity.

alex jones· joe rogan· y2k· infowars· radio· advertising

2:26:47 Oh, that's easy. It's worth precisely what people will pay for it." Which is true! That's absolutely true Well to take us into our donation segment I thought i would play a little piece It's uh...it's a little off the wall for us and from another podcast Uh-oh But it was a coming together of... I remember being condemned for doing this some years ago Yeah but you were playing really shit podcasts and laughing at people Eh well there's that This is when Joe Rogan had Alex Jones on his show. Oh yes, I didn't hear this. Granted they were smoking weed... I bet! ...which made it a little odd but there was this one piece and one of our producers sent it to me—I'm very grateful—that explains a lot about him and about the models used. This is one of the few things that I have really gotten wrong and I didn't go with my gut

2:27:44 And so I was proven wrong and I did it for the wrong reason. So now, I'm gonna actually confess here on air. I was on one radio station...I've been on AXS TV for a few years. I was on one radio station already started to show out of my house that was on like 15 radio stations. So I had that at least but I had- I was on one big radio station have the top show at night all stationed with Howard Stern killer was all over the newspaper had huge ratings and I was bringing in like you know 20 30 grand a month which was just a huge amount for me. Stop! Wow we got to get into radio I've always said you bring in 20 to 30 grand a month 15 years ago imagine what the guy's making now Oh, yeah It's crazy one big radio station had the top show at night on Station with Howard Stern was killer was all over the newspaper Had huge ratings and I was bringing in like, you know 230 grand a month Which was just a huge amount for me building whole operation out of that at home And they come through the sales guys and they go look for a year. You've not been behind Y2k

2:28:40 and you're not letting us have all these big sponsors, and you're going to basically be fired if you don't let us endorse these sponsors and have them on air and say that you believe in Y2K. Hold on a second... so the sponsors were like doomsday stuff? Like canned food and shit? And bunkers and everything else! So I already believe in food stuff and there's Y2K?! But let me tell you what happened. Y2K means... 500k! So the station made you push y2k? Wow. Well, but let me go further this is one of the few times in my life that I don't want to say i didn't have integrity I kind of let them convince me but I think back to the point in the conference room I just kinda went okay okay okay sure I get it and then I went and then once I decided it was true I really pushed it so it's almost like I lied myself because I'm being honest about this process How about that

2:29:27 Well, that explains a lot of these old clips. It also excuses a lot of the old clips so you can't be sure if he's house in Syria is now where you can hear it does the Y2K broadcast around the net. You could find him saying oh my God, power has shut down in Buffalo and looks like it's going to get worse. It's going to sweep across the country we're all gonna die. And he went on and on with his Y2K broadcast that was just like What is he talking about? Yeah, I'm still taking my iodine from the InfoWars shop for the big Fukushima cloud that's gonna kill us. Yeah well good so this is just one of the many reasons we don't like to take money from corporate advertisers. I'm going to show myself old by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah they'd be fab On no agenda

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Associate Executive Producers, Global Donations and De-Douching

The hosts read a list of donations from "Associate Executive Producers" across the globe, including Cape Town, South Africa, and various U.S. cities. Listeners provide feedback on past product recommendations, such as Pilot pens and the Kindle Paperwhite. One donor from South Africa requests a "de-douching" after moving to Montreal.

donations· south africa· san jose· memphis· pilot pens· kindle

2:30:20 We do have a few people to thank for show 910 and we don't take, we can't take advertising. You can see the prime me if Alex's story is correct and it influenced his judgment too big time that's the part that gets me is he convinced himself? Yeah, I'm convince himself this going to happen. This is the problem. This is why we have to do this show. I also thought skillets skittles were the best. Oh my God. Robert Vogel starts off, well we don't have a lot of people today but it's enough. Robert Vogel Franklin North Carolina 162 62 is birthday call out for me we've got him on the list he's 62 on March 8th He also has a douchebag call-out for my Naval Academy roommate Bob S.

2:31:09 The close friend of over the over 60 years club to whom I propagated for me 40 years. Oh, sorry Forced my girlfriend to listen No agenda in the car But she still tells me but still tells me that no agenda has an agenda Yeah, yeah, the agenda is no agenda Dame Karen if she's obviously you know She's a hillbot what are you gonna do? There's a lot of people that just will not listen to what we have to say now and Dame Karen of Cimarron Hills, 1-2-3-4-5 in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Sandala Siddiqui? I think it's Siddiqui. I'd say Siddiqi. It is an Indian name. 115 and she's making the donation on behalf of Pranav Parikh. Hope we got that right. Sir Ferdinand Becker 112 58 53 for the 850 3C

2:32:08 ITM Jens, high praise to you for continuing to expose the fake news on a bi-weekly basis. I guess he's gonna be a knight today, is he not? Yeah. He's going to become a baron of Roberts Bay, Sarasota Florida. Good! Looking forward to your title change. Brian Mickey in San Francisco California 100 Carter Blumeyer in Windermere Florida 100

2:32:54 Ty Sprague, who actually sent a check in with the cartoon attached and a note attached and written note attached and a printed note attached. And I might want to mention that Dame Astrid sent me a card, a Christmas card that she failed to send earlier and she wrote it all in longhand and complained bitterly most of the time about doing it in longhand. We've noticed a lot of people write these longhand notes, then they send the typed version. I think everyone should send Christmas cards on July 4th or something like that. It's a great idea! It's funny. Thanks for outstanding writing guys!

2:33:34 You guys give along with the tips you extend. My vote is for more tips, keep them coming." Now he has a review of the tips. The Kindle Paperwhite excellent product. Oh it's a long time ago that one Yeah! The Legal brand coffee ironic it comes from Mexico pretty good instant coffee Inkjoy pens... Right yeah I didn't like those I just ordered my uh my Precise V7 from Pilot again the RTS Trice, try? It says try. Trice Briggs. Anyway Tony Andres in 1990 please credit to Tony Andres Andrese. Okay it's Andrese 1990 Robert Evans in San Jose California 1990 Kyle McPherson 8007 Sir Brian Green of Hamms

2:34:30 KC9YJM73. 73 is kilo 5 alpha, Charlie. And his donation is appropriately 7373 out of New York City. It's a donation of hands. Herman Geldenhuis and we just do him? Geldenhus. Geldenhus in Cape Town, Western Cape. I'm a late listener to the podcast Best Podcast. Thunis du Twa, what is it? Twa in South Africa back in April. I myself am a South African who fled to Montreal which is where I'd like to establish my knighthood one day please give me a de-douching and give Thunis a douche bag please! You've been de-douched. Jeremy Plogue in Roseville California

2:35:22 Something about golden Cadillacs. Parker Wilson in Charlotte, North Carolina and Eric Brune... I'm sorry William Miller 5005 the Charlotte donation was 5151 Jeremy was 5311 5005 is William Miller now the rest of these people are $50 donors name and location Eric Brune Anonymous in Milton Ontario Anthony was it Anthony Fields Another anonymous, someplace else. Jonathan Meyer in Zinnia Ohio Tim Abel in Burfield Berkshire UK David Schlesinger in Rosemont Illinois

2:36:01 Gene Albin Ablin in Sonora, California. Edward Mazurik in Memphis, Tennessee. We get it, Tennessee's got a lot of people we should do a meet up there. Larry Haye in Mooresville North Carolina and rounding out with David Peat in Aubrey Texas. Drew Muchak in El Cerrito just on the street from me And finally, Sir Brett Farrell in Oklahoma City and Sir Brian Watson in Raleigh North Carolina. That concludes our list of producers for show 910 and we don't have to remind people there is a short period of time till the Sunday show and hopefully we can get few more people in. Thank you very much everybody! We did not have to convince you of Y2K in order to pay the rent... Sounds a lot more profitable I do like that idea

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Peerage Appointments, Knighting Ceremony and Rings

The program concludes its donation segment with a formal knighthood ceremony for three individuals who contributed $1,000 or more. New titles include Dame Anonymous Goddess, Sir David of the Show Me State, and Sir Andrew of the Wet Drains. The hosts explain the perks of the "peerage," including the No Agenda ring and access to the roundtable.

knighthood· dame· peerage· rings· roundtable· donations

2:36:55 Also, everybody who came in under the amount of $50. Thank you very much That's usually for reasons of anonymity and people also on our subscription so thank you and of course another show coming up on Sunday Dvorak org slash and a case jobs Jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for job You've got karma Super short list today. Robert Vogel, 62 yesterday and Parker Lawson says happy birthday to his brother Caleb celebrating on Saturday! Happy Birthday everybody here at the best podcast in the universe! Quick title change we have here today...

2:37:44 Sir Ferdinand Becker came in with a donation today, and that puts him over the top and makes him Baron of Roberts Bay Sarasota Florida Congratulations And of course that will be reflected on the peerage map at itm. I am slash peerage and thank you very much Good sir we have three knightings today actually one Dame and two nights So I get up my special sword for that one if you guys yeah, I'm taking it out now Anonymous, hop on up lady. David Lane come on by and Andrew Wheeloff all of you have supported the best podcast in the universe for the amount of $1,000 or more that means not only do you get the ring but also the ceiling wax but you get a certificate and title AND a spot at the Noah Jenner Roundtable for Knights & Dames so I hereby proudly pronounce the KD

2:38:35 Dame Anonymous Goddess, Sir David of the Show Me State and Sir Andrew of the Wet Drains. For you we have Hookers & Blow, Red Boys and Chardonnay, Sappho & Spice, Meth Sluts and Moonshine, Garlic & Broccoli, Pork Ribs and Pale Ale We got whiskey and wet wipes. We've got three gates in a bucket of fried chicken cases and sake bakken villa we've got sparkling side escorts ginger ale and gerbils, and of course mutton and mead all at no agenda nation comm slash rings head on over there quickly Let Eric the show know where we can send it to when your ring size And we'll take care of it thank you very much okay well I have a number now we got a few couple things left yeah do I do if I do want To play hey this one I get this out of the way is about the

CHAPTER 34 / 39 Discussion

General Michael Hayden, Millennials and Intelligence Leaks

Former CIA Director Michael Hayden appeared on the BBC to blame "millennials" for the recent spate of intelligence leaks. Hayden argued that the younger generation has a different cultural understanding of loyalty and secrecy compared to his generation. The hosts counter that the issue lies with a lack of civics education rather than a generational defect.

michael hayden· millennials· bbc· cia· secrecy· loyalty

2:39:21 the WikiLeaks situation, that apparently General Hayden went on the BBC. He's out and about quite a bit because he's like... He's a consultant, so he needs to be out there. And he blames it on the millennials I only know what i've just heard in the report and what i've quickly read In a few news reports The agency is not yet confirming or denying the authenticity So i've got to put that out there now if What i have read is true then this seems to be an incredibly damaging leak in terms of the tactics, techniques procedures and tools that were used by the Central Intelligence Agency to conduct legitimate foreign intelligence. In other words it's made my country and my country's friends less safe

2:40:10 What do you do about the issue of people inside the intelligence community? As Mark was saying there, there are 800,000 with top security clearance here. 21,000 in the CIA alone. Someone somewhere got hold of these documents and decided to pass them on How do you ever stop that happening Yeah, that appears to be the story. Caddy I don't want to jump to conclusions let's see how this plays out there are other possibilities but let's take that as our working hypothesis and you've raised an incredibly difficult question number one just a sheer number as Marks pointed out how do you make sure every one of them was and remains which may be the problem from time-to-time a loyal American or a loyal member British security services and so on

2:40:59 Beyond that, Cady there's another dynamic at work here. In order to do this kind of stuff, we have to recruit from a certain demographic. And I don't mean to judge them at all but this group of millennials and related groups simply have different understandings of the words loyalty and secrecy and transparency than certainly my generation did. Nailed it! So we bring these folks into the agency good Americans all i can only assume But again, culturally they have different instincts than the people who made the decision to hire them. And we may be running into this different cultural approach that we saw with Chelsea Manning with Edward Snowden and now perhaps with a third actor." That's great! I thought it was pretty funny. Yeah he nails it of course the Millennials are the problem Now I would say bringing back something you said earlier in the show... And then I'm generalizing of course

2:42:00 We have millennials that listen to this show who are not the problem. They're not the problem, they're not the problem. But you said something early in the show that applies directly to this clip which is have you ever taken a class in civics? Yes And I don't think, the...I blame the education system. I don't blame the millennials The millennials have been brought up to be these no borders No nations This sort of thing and if you're a no borders no nation person which from the looks of it is everybody who didn't vote for Trump You're a problem if your gonna be in this spy Well there's other problems with the Millennials

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North Korea Missile Tests, THAAD and China

North Korea conducted a rehearsal for attacks on U.S. military bases in Japan by launching four missiles simultaneously. In response, the U.S. began deploying the THAAD (Terminal High Altitude Area Defense) system to South Korea. China has warned of an arms race in the Pacific, viewing the defense system as a direct threat to its own security.

north korea· china· thaad· missile defense· japan· south korea

2:47:59 This is a good little story. There's Trump trademarks in China, which I think is gonna boil over to something- Let's do a non Trump story. Let's just do a non Trump story North Korea report from CBS. That's what I think is a good story, okay? CBS Today China warned the US of an arms race in the Pacific after the Pentagon delivered parts of a new missile defense system to South Korea Earlier this week North Korea launched missiles in what it called a rehearsal for an attack on us military bases David Martin is learning more about that test

2:48:36 The missiles lifted off simultaneously. So close together, an infrared satellite looking down from space initially identified those rocket plumes as coming from a single missile. The four flew toward Japan in a barrage intended to overwhelm anti-missile defenses. North Korea said the launch from an airstrip in the northwest was conducted by a unit whose mission is to attack U.S. bases in Japan. Had the missiles been launched from the East Coast, they could have reached Japan. Patriot anti-missile batteries already stationed in Japan and South Korea should have been able to shoot them down if necessary. The U.S is now beefing up those defenses by adding a high altitude system known as THAAD which began arriving in Korea... What's it called?

2:49:24 Thad. Oh, Thad! Yeah okay I know about that. Adding a high altitude system known as THAD which began arriving in Korea Monday night although it will be months before it becomes operational the missiles launched on Monday date back to the 1990s but North Korea is developing more modern missiles like this one tested last month and US intelligence has detected signs that may be preparing to test it again A UN report obtained by CBS News concluded North Korea has demonstrated major technological progress within a short period of time, among other things significantly increasing the range of its missiles. North Korea is expected to launch several more missiles in the coming weeks to show its anger over US military exercises going on in South Korea. The North Korean news agency accused President Trump of creating nuclear confrontational hysteria

2:50:20 Secretary of State Tillerson will travel to Japan, South Korea and China next week. U.S officials say China is the one country with the ability to rein in North Korea but so far Scott that has not happened. David Martin... What's left out of this story is what China is doing. Well China has decided take action by pulling the plug on pretty much all of the tourist business. And apparently South Korea... You can't go to China as a tourist anymore? Oh, you mean the Chinese tourists to Korea? Ah okay! Yeah here play this North Korea follow-up

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Chinese Tourism Boycott, South Korean Economy and Lotte

China has effectively halted group tours to South Korea as retaliation for the deployment of the THAAD missile system. The boycott significantly impacts the South Korean economy, particularly the duty-free sector and the Lotte department store chain. Despite the economic pressure, South Korean public support for the missile defense system has reportedly increased.

china· south korea· tourism· lotte· boycott· duty free

2:50:58 I was going to say what i liked about that clip two things but the main thing is, I love how they keep putting the rocket sound in there. Yes it sounds really good. Welcome back a DPRK national suspected of involvement in the murder of Kim Jong-un. Never mind this let's go back to China South Korea tourist kerfuffle. This will bring us up to speed." China's National Tourism Administration released a warning on Friday to remind Chinese citizens to exercise caution when deciding to travel to South Korea soon after the statement was released many major tourism agencies removed tour plans to South Korea from their websites for more on the industry and public response to the warnings CGTN's Hunan brings us this report

2:51:49 Official data show that over 8.2 million people from China went to South Korea last year, that accounts for nearly half of all the country's foreign tourists. Well now the industry stakeholders fear their business might slump as a result of Chinese tourism authorities warning on Friday. Last month, a number of Chinese tourists were denied entry to South Korea after being detained for several hours at local airport they were ultimately sent back to China the warning is a direct response to an increasing number with cases of Chinese citizens being unable to enter South Korea well good catch

2:52:30 This is really getting out of control too. They're talking about- everybody talks about us, but let's play these out. This is another one China Tourist 2. But also companies related to the duty-free sector one of the big cosmetic firms Also took a big hit as we just heard in the report around 50% of the tourists to South Korea are Chinese, but they account for 80 percent That's a whopping portion of all duty free spending So we're seeing really companies in the duty free sector taking a big hit also hotels restaurants

2:53:06 But back in October, there was also an intent to curb group tours from China by 20% over six months. Over January and February the number of Chinese tourists arriving here year on year actually rose by 10% so it appears that people were circumventing those restrictions simply by booking their own tickets, their own hotel rooms, their own flights. And there's nothing to stop them doing that in this case as well because the restrictions only focus on group bookings So they're getting, I mean...I had no idea this was even going on but it's turned into a huge issue because of these missiles. And this is the kicker- But are the missiles because of what the Chinese are doing? No, the missiles were just because we can make a lot of money selling these idiots' missiles. So the question is how much will John McCain give Kim Jong Il on the VIG for the sales? He should get at least 10% it seems to me.

2:54:09 Maybe 15. Anyway, this place does China South Korea tourists kicker having said that people here want good relations So you know there's a genuine concern a desire to fix things But they also say you know China has its own high-altitude Missile defense system and nuclear weapons South Korea has neither but it would like the option of being able to shoot one down if Pyongyang were to launch one in this direction and be People are getting more and more galvanized on that point. The majority of people here support that deployment, it's getting more so or as the herald, the Korean Herald here put it there is a reaction to what is perceived to be mean-spirited bullying and even politicians who questioned THAAD before are becoming more silent on this issue So if the aim of all these restrictions were to convince Koreans to opt out of THAAD It appears quite the opposite effect

2:55:00 Okay, now I understand. It's because Thad will directly threaten China? Yeah Yeah, that's a typical thing. It looks like there are other reports we've had on the show where we're surrounding China with military action and the latest reports now it has gotten to the point where the Chinese have shut down because there is a lot of Korean operations in China they had the Lotte store one of the largest department stores in the world

2:55:36 which is in South Korea, and a great store. It's like unbelievable you can spend the day there it's like Disneyland well there's a version of it not as big as the one in Korea but there's a big one in China I think its outside Beijing or around Beijing and the health department shut it down And there's all sort of thing going on now that they've you know, the export of Korean cars is being threatened and as well. Can I say this? Well it's not like Trump hasn't said he was gonna go after China maybe this is their retaliation. I have no idea what...I think this is something has been building. I think this really only has to do with with the missile system we wanted to dump on these guys. Just saying enough just want to wrap it up here but I do have a quick clip from

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European Army, NATO and UK Defense Policy

UK Defense Minister Michael Fallon addressed the potential creation of a European Union army, urging the EU to cooperate with NATO rather than duplicating its structures. Despite Brexit, Fallon emphasized that the UK will continue to deploy troops to Estonia and Poland to counter regional aggression and strengthen cyber security.

michael fallon· brexit· nato· european army· estonia· cyber security

2:56:23 the UK Defense Minister Michael Fallon, who is not in agreement about this European army. And of course we've been tracking this for quite a while now they are creating... and this was promised! We will never have an army I don't know if it's actually in the protocols of the Lisbon Treaty. We'll have to go back and look. Probably not! We'll never have an army, it will never happen... And now with UK stepping out with Brexit you really don't want those guys with a big army! Although we are leaving the European Union we continue to cooperate with our European partners on defence and security

2:56:59 and in the fight against terrorism and aggression. This month we are deploying troops to Estonia, later to Poland, and we are sending RAF jets to Romania We also continue to play our part in the European mission in the Mediterranean saving... rescuing migrants and tackling people smuggling Today, we are urging the European Union to cooperate more closely with NATO to avoid unnecessary duplication of structures and to work together on new threats including a need to strengthen cyber security. I like that! Don't duplicate your efforts please

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Cultural Influence, "Facebag" and "At the End of the Day"

The hosts highlight the show's influence on popular culture, noting the use of the term "facebag" in a Futurama episode and Bill O'Reilly's recent crusade against the phrase "at the end of the day." The program concludes with a montage of the hosts using the forbidden phrase over the years, followed by a final sign-off and a "knighting" audio mix.

futurama· bill o'reilly· facebag· at the end of the day· idioms· sign-off

2:57:44 Do not duplicate your... Yeah, there was a lot of talk. We don't have any clips but of them wanting to now go nuclear with the European Union. Oh yeah see I heard about this too. So that's going to be unique. To wind up John, I'd like to play two things to show you the influence of The No Agenda Show and how we influence popular culture. How long have I been calling Facebook the face bag? You began calling it that about 2 1⁄2 years ago I believe is the first time I heard it maybe before I would have to say it's less than two years because, I believe...I got it from Tina. So its just under two years. She said face bag? She is the one who started it yeah. Okay. She's a keeper John! Hello! Writing our material now This is Futurama You like Futurama you watch that show

2:58:40 I like it's a good show. Well, this was on a couple months ago. We'll wait for something good... No! Don't quit you have great ideas out there with social media Posted your debate video on facebag 10 000 views? That's more than most water skiing squirrels get. I don't know man. I-I think we may have influenced somebody there But maybe, I mean it doesn't surprise me that anyone who writes comedy occasionally... Wouldn't listen to anything you could right? They would listen to our show because our show is like you said it's a comedy show. However! You sir have influenced a great man. You have taken your influence to a whole new level. Okay. You sir have influenced the no spin zone Bill O'Reilly Are you ready?

2:59:37 Yeah, it'd be good. You may remember that I put out an all points bulletin for politicians and pundits to stop saying the words at the end of the day. But at the end of the day... At the end of the day... Stop! This is verbal pollution, once again. At the end of the day does not ever need to be uttered again! I think if you really look into it you'll find that he used to say it all the time

3:00:20 Well, we said it all the time which is why we stopped ourselves from doing. Yeah We stopped ourselves in our you know stopped dead It was high and I think there's we still have the end of the day clip I think we do love us saying it when once too many? I think we don't well we had that one listener who used to do this to us Exactly alright everybody thank you very much for participating in a little broadcast here remember we do have another show coming up on Sunday one hour earlier for those of you who are not on the international get mo time zone Yeah, and as always morning for me. I always look forward to it. I really do

3:01:00 Coming to you from the Crackpot Condo here in the skyscrapers located downtown Austin, Texas. Which is FEMA Region 6 on the map in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where Plato say man who complain about moving stairway escalates the problem I'm John C. Dvorak, we will be back on Sunday right here on NOAgenda until then Adios Mofos! But at the end of the day they're backing him you know they're backing come on At the end of the day John if someone wants to get anyone they can... At the end of the day it's more important that we have entertainment

3:01:55 At the end of the day. So, at the end of the day who's going to pay for the real loan? It's gonna be taxpayer money! At the end of the day. Because at the end of the day that's gonna up to Valerie Jarrett. I mean, at the end of the day isn't that it?! But at the end of the day all this money is owed to bankers... At the end of the day. At the end of the day, I think its good!! At the end of the day, as Americans what we always do is we always say at the end of the day. So at the end of the day it's not actually the health care it's the...at the end of the day you can't deny I had to put less gas in...at the end of the day

3:02:45 We're all anti-Semites. At the end of the day, you get... I think it's 4% starts to run together at the end of the day and you kind of forget right? John, you and I are both in the audience business at the end of the day And so at the end of the day, she could say hey I told you so. At the end of the day, but I don't say it's the end of the day said it was one set together. We are one people with one destiny. We all bleed the same blood we all salute

3:03:35 The same Jack And we all made by the same God The child, the child's head Don't want to make America The child, the child's head The child's head

3:04:23 He's a man to blow! Touch me in the... ...shy. Walk out with... ...the shy. His wife found one day, about ten years ago. And let's be honest she deserved it. No. Try naming him or telling you where he lives because of what's at stake? Self-introspection. Peter Estereliza is asking for special prosecutor of what? It's hard to tell exactly how they are. Let alone

3:05:03 suggested that charges are going to be... So you're saying until Congress comes out and says, here's the proof. You're saying he had potty training issues and latent homosexuality issues or unproved concepts. Chairman David if all of this is... Then you would say because that would be possible criminal act right? No it wouldn't. Yeah there's nothing. There is no congressional authority in the states But they have. Psychiatrists are saying he had potty training issues, and when they get to Jimmy Carter, Jesse Jackson quality issues or unproved concepts... Find things on Hillary Clinton those sorts of conversations that would be treason right? Yeah you played this clip I'm guessing. If your vice president wasn't vice president at the time then it's good to go. You know i really glad the media finally woke up today

3:05:54 I'm not a nationalist. You're a vice president. We hate foreigners. We need to know, is anyone compromised? Sir Gregory, do you want to hear it again? No. Some of the Americans involved are accused of not telling the truth. My mommy says he's a foreigner. Words! They were saying that he had potty training issues. President of the United States Mr. Farage, if you would like to kneel there You are now Sir Nigel Farage So arise Sir Nigel Thank you very much I'm honoured My mummy says

3:06:51 Hate foreigners. You're not supposed to say that! My mummy says, hate foreigners. You're not supposed to say that! You're not supposed to say that! My mummy says... You're not supposed to say that! I'm honest. My mummy says, foreigners. Mr Farage if you'd like to kneel there? You are now Sir Nigel Farage So arise Sir Nigel Thank-you very much, I am honest. My mummy says, hate foreigner

3:07:28 You're not supposed to say that. My mummy says, hate foreigners. You're not supposed to say that! You're not supposed to say that! My mummy says... You're not supposed to say that! ...mummy says, hate foreigners Mr Farage if you'd like to kneel there? You are now Sir Nigel Farage So arise Sir Nigel Thank-you very much I'm honoured Bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang In the morning! Adios, mofo. The best podcast in the universe! Dvorak dot org slash N-A. Thanks Obama