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00:00 Hello, it's me. It's me Adam Curry John C Devorah Thursday January 19 2017 and this is your award-winning get more nation media assassination episode 8 9 or 6 This is no agenda Deconstructing hats and meat, and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in downtown Austin Tejas FEMA Region 6. In case you're looking for it in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where a drought that we were experiencing that was going to take 10 years to disappear seems to have disappeared. I'm John C. LaPorte It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! Wait a minute... You're telling me the drought is over?

00:45 Looks like it. We're getting pounded here. Oh, pounded is what Jerry Brown you don't mean pounded? Half of the shingles on my roof are blown off last night oh really oh man huh I'm waiting for more just up to have a fall down and crush some of the stuff in my backyard actually that's them actually half of them or Just a lot Lots all right for those listening on the stream Thank you for hanging in there starting a little bit late some technical difficulties, but these will be discussed in tech news today actual tech news Mm-hmm about some technological issues. Yeah well

01:37 We are over clipped today, it's obvious. I don't have that many. Yeah you kind of do...I don't have three pages! So of course we have the inauguration tomorrow and it's interesting that we have this show today a lot of people won't hear this until tomorrow I think but I'm pretty sure everything is going to be okay with the inauguration because Crazy things only happen on show days. It doesn't happen on an off-show day, so yes should be a fantastic observation it should be okay yeah But the narrative if that's what you want to call it That is certainly the mainstream media here in United States of Gitmo nation has been pushing

02:23 is illegitimate, illegitimate. And yes we're already talking impeachment! Have you... I'm sure you've... actually like got a number of these things. I don't have any the impeachment clips because those are stupid. Yeah well the impeachment stuff kind of all flows out of shoeless Joe Jackson there What's his name? John Lewis. John Lewis, Shulis Joe Jackson exactly who has come out and is called the president-elect a

03:02 illegitimate candidate and people are taking this very seriously because of course he is a very serious guy. You know, he was in Selma and he was... Qualification enough! Yeah actually maybe I'll start with this because let me see here let me get the impeachment thing that's probably the best place to start so we have Where are we? Here we go. This is Chris Matthews on MSNBC and he is... who's he talking to here, let me see. Well let's talk about where that leads! Oh yes this is Maxine Waters. But when you hear her

03:47 Another fine example of parallel universes. You know, I love him Well let's talk about where that leads to Congresswoman you've raised a good point here I guess for you it is important if we find out that Somebody on behalf of Donald Trump was on the phone or an email relations with somebody in Russia Or the American might be ambassador America from Russia and there was some sort of as you call it collusion Then what does that make Trump subject to impeachment? What do you mean by not legitimate just generally what you mean by the term? If you find out there was a connection, there was collusion. Your turn Well here's what I'm trying to get to if we discover

04:23 that Donald Trump or his advocates played a role in helping to devise strategy. If they're the ones who came up with Crooked Hillary, if they're the ones who came up with she's ill somethings wrong with her energy and the way that he basically described her in the campaign I think that is something that would put the question squarely on the table whether or not she should be impeached Is this woman insane? That is insane. So if Hillary Clinton had won, then Donald Trump could have gone for the Republicans could have gone for impeachment because they called Trump Hitler. I mean it's she for real

05:08 And she's an actual representative of... She actually voted in. I think she is the competent woman Chuck Todd of MSNBC spoke directly to Shoeless John Lewis about this issue Can you imagine ever sharing a stage with Donald Trump? Donald Trump came to you and said, You know, um, I want forgiveness here. I want your trust or I want your, would you take him to Selma? Like going to Selma, like President Bush. President Clinton. President Obama Maybe he would learn something maybe he would get religion So you would bring him? You would do that for him if he asked Well I wouldn't invite him to come But if he asked to come would you let him? I wouldn't try anything to prevent him from coming If he's not a legitimately elected president in your mind

06:08 There are tools that Congress has. Tools? You think Congress should use those tools? Are you one of those who believe the impeachment process- You're talking about McCain? I'm sorry, no he's talking about impeachment as a tool Oh i thought he was talking about McCain and Lindsey No there are tools He said TOOLS! Ha ha ha! Yes...you think congress should use those tools Do you think that, are you one of those who believe the impeachment process should begin? Well I truly believe we should find out what happened and how it happened. John McCain wants a special committee, select committee... I agree with Senator McCain Yeah if hell freezes over We got John Lewis agreeing with John McCain Now ummm I have three part short clips from former Black Panther Mason Weaver

06:57 Are you familiar with Mason Weaver? Is he really like a... No, no. I've never heard of him. Okay well he was on with Tucker Carlson and he has a lot to say about John Lewis which some of it certainly in the second clip we have discussed many times on this program but he has a very different view of who John Lewis really is now He is heralded without a doubt as the civil rights guru correct? what do you mean everyone's talking about how you cannot say anything to him and yet oh he's the anointed one. He is beyond reproach there, okay that's the word he's beyond reproach except for The Black Panthers who also happen to be

07:46 In the early 70s and late 60's we were demonstrating and protesting for the right to compete as adult citizens in America. We were not demonstrating to be taken care of better, now Congressman Lewis he He marched across the Pettus Bridge, and they beat him and ran over him. But those were Democrats! It was Democrat George Wallace stood in a schoolhouse yard. It was Democrats called Bull Connors that oppressed folks. It was Democrats that voted for the litmus test called the illiteracy test and the poll tax. He was fighting Democrats but after they beat us behind on that bridge

08:27 and ran over him, stomped him on the ground. He got up and turned to join them! He joined the oppressors and became a stool for them where he was now sitting and presiding over the destruction of the black community, the destruction of black men, the destruction of black women with drugs and gangs. He has presided over the worst school system in the world where black people are learning only be gang prep. outrage that the demonstration he had earlier in his life has turned to a subjugation of his rights and authority as a black leader. Of course, neither you nor I could say that publicly because we would be excoriated if we...we have no knowledge of what happened. This is interesting this clip

09:10 I'm noticing this meme that's going around and uh, i think the best example of it is Paint the Democrats as unchanged since pre-Civil War. They were the ones that forced slavery, they're the ones around on the southern...they're the plantation owners are the ones who caused a ruckus until the Republicans came along to replace the Whigs as the ones who eventually ended up freeing the slaves

09:49 The Democrats are, one of the guys Mark Levin went on. I was driving around obviously. I was out of the house. Mark Levin was on a unbelievably interesting rant that had been prepared and citing every Democrat anomaly including the including rewriting the idea of the Southern strategy where Nixon and the Republicans took over the South using various kind of hidden meanings to...devil entendres and whatever, to get the black haters. Well we have course discussed many times that there was this switch and you know, we've traced some of that back to Archie Bunker and how

10:39 the white collar, grouchy douchebag racist misogynist guy who was sitting in his armchair yelling at the TV was a Republican all of sudden instead of a Democrat. Instead of a Democrat which he should have been. Archie Bunker should have been a Democrat by all accounts. Witness clip two So when you say he's presided over are you speaking of his congressional district? Not just his congressional district but the Congressional Communist Black Caucus that has every district they own and control is a ghetto hell hole. It's a place that no one wants to go to! They're in control of every inner city school system, every inner city police, every inner city jail... They have produced nothing but drugs and misery. Black-owned businesses

11:23 black on housing has been reduced they are presided over the destruction of black people. They should be ashamed of themselves and I don't understand why any black person could be a democrat. John Lewis bless his heart you know it took courage to do what he did in early life but what he has done now, he has turned himself to its enemy like a little girl been beaten by daddy and joins daddy like an abused woman being by her husband he joins the husband. He has joined the enemy, he has joined the oppressor! And what you should do if your a real man John Lewis, if your Real hero, you stand up tomorrow morning and you look at the American people and apologize. You have led them through decades of hell! You should apologize saying that you made a mistake, say that you tried to work with them but the Democratic Party has always been the party of abuse, always been part of the Klan, the party that wants war to keep slaves, the party that's always been in destruction for black people

12:19 Mr. Lewis, you have presided over the destruction of black America and you owe us an apology I wish this guy wouldn't hold back You know much better? I love that so what is this guy's name again his name is Mason Weaver And while you're looking that up, here's a wrap-up clip. And the black people that are presiding over us have gotten poorer. More drugs, more gangs less business, less home ownership, less education more jailed, more drugs The worst black people are! The poorer we are

13:05 The stronger the congressional black caucus is, the more powerful Democrats are, the worse off black people are. So I'm just saying as a citizen of America looking around my country, I'm saying that every place you find black people and Democrats, you will find poverty! You'll find disgrace, you'll find degradation, you'll find no jobs, you'll find a place that's utterly unlivable. That's his legacy. All right Good one, and did you find out more about him? No. I'm still looking now okay He's got a Twitter account to let's go look at that thought that was uh you know we've talked about the Democratic Party in that way and their history and Maybe the history will now be discussed a little bit more maybe maybe it's coming to the forefront don't Fox News Oh, no, but anybody anywhere else in fact I've noticed a lot in this in this rift between

14:04 In this split of the universe, the most apparent and really the most disturbing rifts are between black people. Black Americans! It's actually very entertaining. You see a lot of it I have kind of a fun one By the way, just as an aside somebody pointed out the rift actually started to become bigger and bigger when they started the Hadron Collider. Once they flipped that thing back on everyone went nutty I know! I'm all in on that you know me. So President-elect had of course he's nominated or appointed

14:53 Ben Carson as the Housing and Urban Development Secretary. And, uh...Ben's been having a tough time getting confirmed if you haven't seen it-the clips are too boring to play but if you haven't seen it is, you know he's definitely picking on him a little bit and as a part of Carson doing that Trump also invited Steve Harvey the comedian and game show host What I think a lot of people don't know about Steve Harvey is that he has, he's a huge philanthropist. He has a sizable foundation with his wife. I looked at the 990 and they did in 2014...I haven't seen

15:37 a total douchebag money. No, it's not like the way Sharpton does it? Yeah I have a Sharpton clip too he also was homeless for three years you know and he's been very very instrumental in working certainly with kids and the inner cities and the inner cities in general but guy yeah he's a game show host but this is...I knew this I thought it was pretty well known about him apparently on CNN they don't and here we go now there's

16:20 There's four people in this segment. Three of them are black, the one that is white doesn't even talk and that is the lawyer girl, what's her name? Kaylee McEnany We have Mark Lamont Hill and just listen... You got this clip! I congratulate you Thank you I've heard about this clip Not from that, but the clip you just made. But I've heard about what you're going to play because I know what it is because the right-wing talk show guys have gone ballistic over this! Well, I hope it's...I don't know if it's the clip you're talking about but here we go. I'm sure it is. Harvey went to Trump Tower and he's taking a lot of backlash for meeting with the president elect What do you make of this controversy? My disagreement is the way in which he's being used by folk like Donald Trump Again his intention was just to have a seat at the table. When you are at the table you should have experts at the table

17:11 You have people who can challenge the president at the table. I don't care if Steve's there, but if I'm Steve Harvey, I'm bringing Michelle Alexander. I'm bringing Cornel West. I'm bringing Imani Perry. I'm bringing Eddie Glaude. I'm bringing Michael Eric Dyson. I'm bringing some folk with me who can challenge a president and inform the conversation otherwise you're just being- Why are you saying oh my god? Because all he Because to keep bringing up comedians and actors and athletes to represent black interests is demeaning, it's disrespectful, and it's condescending. Bring some people with expertise Donald Trump don't just bring people in to entertain. Mark you weren't even there! You didn't know what happened okay? Yes I do! Are you disagreeing that he brought Donald Trump? You weren't in the room, sir. How does that negate my point that he brought Steve Harvey and then put him in front of cameras? Pastor Darrell Scott, Michael Cohen they are in a process to bring all types of people from all over the country from all different backgrounds like we have the member diversity coalition where we reach out to all different types

18:05 That's really that's really the beauty part here a bunch of mediocre Negroes being dragged in front of the TV is Harvey's immediate But he's also referring to all the Negroes that have been dragged there Brown the football player Everybody respects. He's also unassailable Mediocre also beat the crap out of this guy mediocre negroes, that's crazy crazy. Black people are diverse, okay? And for Donald Trump to only engage actors and comedians and you know reality type folks he is not engaging the diversity of black people in America. So again I would like to see Donald Trump bring some policy analysts some real people who have some meat on the bones for the issues to the table. Dang if you do. You got 10 seconds Bruce

19:17 So, what do you mean dang if you didn't? Bruce is an expert and he brought Bruce in. No it's not all right fine yeah how come the Democrats side of this debate It has no problem with all these know-nothing celebrities coming forward and expressing themselves, and they never complain about that. It's because of the split in the universe. They just see it completely different. But I think most egregiously is that Harvey... He is quite a philanthropist in his own right and he's worked a lot with inner cities. And so be perfect... He's one of those guys who just works his butt off?

20:02 Yeah, he's got more than that the game show too. He's got a talk show. Oh, he's got tons of stuff Yeah quite good yeah by just like wow man look it was mediocre negro apparently That is too funny mark Lamont Hill is going to eat crap for saying that you should he should Mediocre Mark Lamont hill started off we could have no agenda t-shirts for our black listeners and It's great. It would sell. Yeah, Mark Lamont Hill really got his start with...well he was a professor someplace. He got his start with O'Reilly on Fox.

20:44 O'Reilly would bring him on as the kind of counter-argument, and he's always remarkable for being extremely fast on his feet. A fast talker? He actually slowed down a lot. A fast talker, quick thinker and he was very good nobody could really deal with him And then he got the idea I think that he is a celebrity And he started doing...he kind of split off from Fox and wanted to get, I think it was at one point trying to get his own show. He really takes himself very seriously as a great pundit but everybody screws up. I think it was a screw-up. I think he's gonna pay for it for sure. Yeah, for sure.

21:30 It's like the deplorables comment, you know, that Hillary made. Just a bad idea. So people are already gearing up in DC for tomorrow's J20 which will be followed by J21. Right it will be actually there is two different movements. Sharpton is already there with his... what's this foundation called again? The coalition to uh, steal money from dummies. That's the one here is we have called this march on four non-negotiable issues all right you got a pen yeah let's write it down for non-negotiable issues voting rights voting rights do we already have that so that number one is checked off okay good to go let's ring the bell

22:19 Criminal justice and police reform. Criminal justice and poli- Well, I think criminal justice reform is already taking place No it's just beginning Okay Equal and fair economic justice Oh And the affordable What? Equal and fair economic justice I don't know what economic justice is That means everybody has money Okay Economic Justice...and the Affordable Care Act We come to Washington from all over this country and some of us went to Sanford, Florida and stood up for Trayvon Martin. And we gonna stand up for Ed Garner! And we gonna stand up for Walter Scott!" And there's like maybe 50 people standing in front of him the crowd is quite small it's raining and people are like... And we're going to stand up for Tamir Rice you may switch presidents

23:18 But we just gonna switch legs and keep on marching. We won't back down! We won't be trumped! We won't be trumped! We won't be trumped! I have a feeling that'll make it into- What is he saying? Dropped?! And we won't be trumped... WE WON'T BE TRUMPED!!! I have a feeling, uh, that'll- What!? Say that again it doesn't even hardly sounds like that. We won't be trumped!! Sounds like trapped. No, he's saying trumped and we won't be Trump I have a feeling that'll show up in the end of show mix one of these days Uh-huh now then so the the j20a We want to talk about in a moment but first for the 21st This is The Big Woman's March which is it's kind of getting a little complicated

24:06 Yeah, with no whites allowed. It's well it's yeah black activists are telling white women who are also marching they need to check their privilege so there could be some rifts... They don't know where to check it there's no booth but they will be there There may be some rifts internally and one of the co-organizers of this march that's the Muslimah as we would say in Europe She was on MSNBC again, just to kind of reiterate in this short clip. January 21st what's the first thing you want either President Trump at that time or the Senate or as you were mentioning the House to do for all of these marchers because you have a sense of what the pulse is from the marchers?

24:47 Yeah, absolutely. I mean first of all hands off the Affordable Care Act we need our health insurance hands off Planned Parenthood and our reproductive rights hands off Muslims hands off the undocumented those are really our top messaging lines handoff our Native American sisters and brothers you will see a plethora of speakers reflecting isn't it plethora is it plethora? Is that the correct pronunciation? Well I would pronounce it plethera. I say plethora. It may be acceptable I have to look it up it's possible there's multiple pronunciations for a lot of words okay It kind of sounds cool actually, plethora. Plethora? Yeah like controversy- Sounds like a science fiction character There's a plethora of controversies about I tell you We'll see a plethora of speakers reflecting all the progressive and social justice issues in this country Woo! All John, all

25:30 the progressive and social justice issues every single one of them hands off everything. American sisters and brothers you will see a plethora of speakers reflecting all the progressive and social justice issues in this country it's again one of the most intersectional movements there it is marches that you have ever seen intersectional movement yeah as the intersectional thing again which means everybody's there no one will agree that's pretty much the way I see it hello uh I clipped that for you hello my friend It's me. Do it John, do it, do it, do it. Hello? Hold on hold on let's do it right Alright ladies and gentlemen I present John C. Dvorak and Adele Oh hello! It's me. And here I sit On the stoop Beautiful Like a bee Oh beautiful thank you Thank you that was worth 10 minutes of clipping that

26:37 The women of the view, my beat. Short clip don't worry They were all wearing their pussy hats Have you seen the pussy hats? Oh God What is wrong with these people? Yeah there's a lot A lot is wrong So you'll notice couple of us wearing pink hats I can't mess up my hair No she can't mess her hair But Saturday there was this gigantic woman march in Washington and all As it turns out, it's not just Washington. It's all over the country so you know? There's going to be no petite women or normal size? No. Washington, it's all over the country so you know we're wearing pink hats in celebration of this march of women who are not holding anybody down and we want you to know that we want you to have a great day whatever day you pick and take a little time to enjoy The View. Oh yes! Enjoy The View everybody. So what has happened definitely is a lot of women's organizations are asking for money

27:41 There's just tons of money requests coming in, certainly for the March on the 21st. And they've got... It's like what is going on in DC it's really, it's like they're just partying! No seriously because I looked at the rundown and see I have it here somewhere yeah here it is the rundown And, you know there's all kinds of tranny parties and dress up parties and woo! And we're going crazy parties. Outrageous dress parties... Everyone is free and crazy and we don't care parties. Which I mean yeah, I know lots of people in the gay and lesbian and transgender community they love to party they love to dance that's the way they protest

28:32 Meanwhile, the J-20 is... It seems to be more depressed. The J-20 is sponsored 100% by the World Workers Party. Oh yeah that operation? That's the same as ANSWER and a bunch of other movement. Out of New York, they have a lot of websites that are... Yeah. The main one is workers.org though. That's the main one. And they are old time socialists, Bernie Sanders type socialist from the 20s and 30s? Yeah. They're really about socialism! I mean it's- Real socialism. Yeah, the real deal and they're the ones handing out the signs. They're the ones that are setting everything up

29:18 And it's interesting though, I got an email from because I subscribed to all these newsletters if I can. I got an email from them asking for money and anyway, I found it rather odd because they had a GoFundMe the goal was 10 grand and as of this morning was at like $3,000 so I'm not quite sure why they were even asking for that in that manner cause they seem to have plenty of money. I don't know what that was just... I have no idea. Yeah really? Really don't understand. Something is up. Of course We have some counter actions going on and this is the bikers for Trump who have taken it upon themselves to make sure that there can be no disruptions. I know some of these guys, certainly the Rolling Thunder New Jersey or I think it's Rolling Thunder New Jersey 2 or something like that Let's listen to one of these spokes guys for the bikers for Trump on I think Fox That sounds like a confrontation to me Chris

30:19 Well, the bikers are certainly used to being outnumbered. I'm sorry for this audio That's not me is just how it came in and we are prepared to form a wall of meat But we're confident that law enforcement all of our lessons and that's if he'll come back to that in Chicago And Arizona and if there's anything like it was in Cleveland they're gonna have to They're gonna have things under control. We are anticipating a celebration here We don't anticipate any problems we have a strict code of conduct where we don't condone violence But again in the event that were needed you can certainly count on the bikers for Trump to form a wall of meat You put a wall of meat, that's an interesting phrase right? I believe you're going to be vastly outnumbered

31:08 anti-Trump groups are reserving in terms of parking spaces I understand they got far more than the pro Trump people is that accurate? Well again we're used to being outnumbered and we're very confident. Our group is full, you know the backbone of the biker community as the veteran and so these are guys that aren't really used to backing down but you know you certainly won't see bikers out there screaming calling for the destruction a private property or the death of police officers. We're going to be throwing the halftime inauguration rally at John Marshall Park that will kick off shortly after Donald Trump exits the stage, and it will end shortly before the parade on Pennsylvania Avenue. Why are you such a big supporter of Donald Trump?

31:56 Well, like Donald Trump the biker has an outspoken nature. And so as Donald Trump came on to the political scene the biker was looking for someone outside of the establishment Someone that was going to stand up and call it what it is Radical Islam is one of the biggest talking points of bikers for Trump Illegal immigration and one of our sweet spots is getting behind the American veteran We believe its incumbent upon all who understand you in the sacrifice of our servicemen and women that we are there for them. And we've got to change these policies now." All right, Chris Cooks. Thanks very much for joining us.

32:48 Exactly. So I don't know, man... I don't know if this is uh.. I don't what's gonna happen although i do know that And I didn't clip it because it was just, it was so stupid. But Tucker Carlson had the guy on who posted the ad if you go and go fight against Trump and I'll pay you a, what is it? $250 like 500 dollars a month. That's that bologna guy. Yeah yeah. The guys discredited. Yeah no Tucker made fun of him. It was pretty good actually he kept talking about... What's the quarterback name?

33:25 Well hold on Tom Brady no no no he was the last No, he had the last name right but he had buddy. He messed up the Oh Peyton Manning manning Yeah, it's a wanted to say Chelsea Manning, but he kept saying Peyton Manning So I didn't even clip that it was just too stupid so that was uh that was debunked properly and I was very good And, you know I think... I don't know how long Tucker Carlson can keep up this torrid pace. What's making that show work, you know everyone likes to credit Tucker but it's actually the booker. Yes of course He has a really good booker Yeah he has got a great booker absolutely

34:09 Absolutely. And we should credit her or him on the show sometime, we should find out who it is. Yeah! Because that's a person...the unsung hero in part of that is the deuce You're right they are the unsung heroes It's the booker you don't have a good booker your you suck and it's you that suck but not you at all Obama did have, you know he had his last supposedly I don't know how many last press conferences. Well no this was he had his last speech and now this is the last press conference. Yeah I thought that already had a last press conference? No it was a speech with questions you see its very different Well, he had this last press conference. I didn't get much of that one clip out of it that I thought was interesting is that Trump apparently when he gets in, he's maybe going to kick the press corps out of the White House? Well, the idea and I have a follow up clip to this. The idea is to make more space for more people from more journalists. And if you look at then, of course, they watch it every day. If you look at the current press corp

35:11 broom. It's very small, it's packed people are fainting from time to time but of course you know this would be moving to the building next door and that is obviously seen as usurping the power of the press... The fourth estate whatever you want to call it Well, Obama made this fantastic plea and I think the only thing that would be behind a plea. He does it in an offhanded way he's really good at saying one thing but directing it at somebody that nobody knows. Play this clip and then have some thoughts on this. And you have done that. Having you in this building has made

35:51 this place work better. It keeps us honest, it makes us work harder. You have made us think about how we are doing what we do and whether or not were able to deliver on what's been requested by our constituents but there is a difference between that normal functioning of politics certain issues or certain moments where I think our core values may be at stake. What? Our core values may be at stake, John! Don't you understand that? How much is the core value? First of all... Well, I'll tell you what hold on a minute. I know you want to hear we have to say but let me just add to this a quick clip from Josh Earnest addressing the same issue. I pulled him through the earnest filter so i shortened as many spaces as I could thanks. I alluded this in my long comments at

36:46 The United States has a rather unique arrangement between our government and the independent media. Mainly by making them not independent! That's, that's a fact... The fact that all of you represent independent news organizations and have regular access to the White House Owned by three corporations Have regular access to workspace where you can do your job. Oh, they have a workspace John! They all have no workspace I'm sure in the new building... Have a venue where you can enter the room- The briefing room at almost any hour That would not change don't think? And can hold people in power accountable is really important Isn't that what the whole point is?! You also have access to senior White House officials right through that door Right up the ramp outside of that door you can come into my office Yeah good luck I'm sure I'm sure he could just burst through like on The West Wing HEY

37:31 Hey, CJ. Let me ask you a question At a moment's notice To ask questions and demand answers and demand transparency Sure Uh-huh And as I mentioned earlier Sometimes that's a little inconvenient Sometimes it's uncomfortable Sometimes it's frustrating Because you're dissatisfied with the answer that we've given But it's necessary For the success of our democracy No it's not I think there are some people Clearly It's necessary for the People who might say John That well this is...it's just symbolic That you have The White House Press Corps in the White House. And I would say it's a really important symbol! It's more than just symbolism... But even taking that argument at face value, there is something symbolically important about all of you gathering here every single day to hold people in power accountable to demand answers, to demand transparency, to demand facts

38:24 And your ability to do that is going to be affected if you don't have regular access to the White House, if you're not able to do your job from the White House and if there's not a natural readily available venue for you to hold senior officials accountable. So this again a relationship that President Obama believed was important to invest in. Sure! He made this a priority. Sure he did. It was a priority to have him in there? Yeah, priority. Why? Yeah, I know why well the only possible reason they make such a fuss uh-huh And I guess Trump was never right in on it. The place is bugged or they can bug the executive No They bug that press room that thing is so bugged as probably every network connection because they could put their little computers in there and everything else That's fine on these guys court It's all set oh man we got to move all the ball the mics and the end and the taps and them and

39:22 Yeah, the Ethernet. Why else would you make such a fuss? Oh so they can be close! So they can drop in on us at moments notice and we have to answer their pointed questions. That is bull crap. That is not what the resistance thinks this is about You are aware of The Resistance I presume. I've heard of them but don't know why do they think this is all about Okay well first The Resistance which now this came up on a facebag post Tina, she was sad she did it. But she's learning. She posted the second Project Veritas video where you hear these disruptors saying, ah we're going to go throw butyric acid into the press club so it'll stink it up and we're gonna chain trains and block tracks and all this stuff. And one of the commenters on her post actually said

40:25 I don't see what's wrong with it. This is just like the French resistance against Hitler take that in for a second Wow, take that in for a second and this is a meme and the resistance is something that people are talking about on the bag For sure And of course that is led by no one No one less than Keith Olbermann I'm Keith Olbermann and this is The Resistance. Trump's banana Republicans have proposed that White House press briefings be moved out of the presidential mansion, and held next door at the executive office building and why should you care for one damned minute? Reince Priebus says it's a great thing because the result would be quote about quadrupling the amount of reporters that can cover The White House

41:11 And certainly that sounds like a wonderful intensification of the bright shining light of a democratic free press on the operation of the Commander-in-Chief and his noble staff. The more, the better right? Just the way it works in Russia! A giant crowd of reporters screaming for the leader's attention making signs indicating what organization they belong to and even signs and props indicating what questions they intend to ask Some of them showing exactly the kind of objectivity and respectful skepticism a free press is supposed to bring to the coverage of government at its highest levels. And yes, she's a self-described journalist at a Putin news conference holding a picture of Putin ripping off his shirt to indicate he's actually Superman. We're just a few steps removed from the contestants trying to get MC Monty Halls attention during a taping of the old game show Let's Make A Deal." This guy needs some new cultural references I think

42:02 Though I would never want to insult anybody in comparison among Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump and Monty Hall. I have respect for Monty Hall! Look, I don't know the last time anything at a White House news conference or anything done by a White House correspondent actually contributed anything measurable... Here it comes. ...to coverage of a president not since Sam Donaldson used to make news by bellowing questions at Ronald Reagan and Reagan condemning himself by refusing to answer them I also think that if traditional journalism contributes in any way to the prevention of dictatorship here and now, it will be by the grunt work. Fact checking the White House news conferences... Oh yes! And revealing legislation and departmental orders and checking legalities and confronting administrations lies with facts. The next Woodward and Bernstein will get there not at the news conferences but by skill at filing Freedom Of Information Act requests

42:51 But the idea of quadrupling the amount of reporters that can cover The White House is a Trojan horse with a lot of trojans in it. Firstly, there is the Putin-like spectacle. The bigger the room, the more room for staffers and hangars on and for want of a better term Trump plants. Trump gave this stunt away at last week's news conference packed the place with people applauding for him. And they have as much right to be at a presidential news conference, as would people booing him and that amount of people is none! quadrupling the number of so-called reporters at the news conferences, and you have suddenly created another stop on the Trump perpetual campaign rally tour. Quadrupled the number of so called reporters that the news conferences and you suddenly make it easier to ignore the reporters with actual questions as opposed to the ones carrying signs showing Trump wearing a Superman shirt." Okay So you get the idea? The whole thinking... Yeah we can keep that guy to a minimum on this show. Yeah but I just it was about the resistance part and then they

43:51 he, they the resistance believes this is about making more room for shills. Yeah, see shills and it's very much like modeled after Putin you say luckily I'm telling ya it's the bugs in there yeah I like that I like the theory it's not as probably not even theories right Well, it's not unusual. I mean, Lyndon B Johnson bugged his Oval Office and they used to do this constantly and there is nothing new to the idea... It's not that is a stunning idea which just so obvious. Luckily Jake Tapper of course he was fired from ABC News after he was a douchebag to the president we all remember that. He went on Seth Meyers show, A Trump Hater

44:37 Although I kind of like his show. It's just tiring And yeah, you can take you can watch it for a few shows in a row and then it's like wait a minute say repeating material Yeah, closer look very much of a just Trump hate Here's Tapper on Seth Meyers talking about the relationship which we just heard was so fantastic and President Obama actually encouraged everything and he set up everything up, it was great. We love the press... It is interesting also because I remember when the WikiLeaks happened Yeah this is about WikiLeaks too I was a White House correspondent like you Margaret And I remember that the White House were so outraged They were so angry they were convinced that these reams of- I'm sorry this isn't the Seth Meyers thing Ehhh, that's not the one I want. That's a different one. Hold on... Seth here it is

45:22 Seth Meyers. This is one of the things that happened during the first Obama term when the, and I'm not saying these things are equivalent but the Obama White House went to war against Fox News and they tried to say that the entire organization was illegitimate And it wasn't you know this anchor is a jerk or this story as a lie Or whatever It was this entire organization including hundreds of reporters and producers who were just doing honest work people I knew Major Garrett Brett bear people who are good reporters When they were doing that, I challenged them for that. Specifically because it's an important principle to stand up for we're all supposed to be in this together and you can't just like say well CNN if your with an organization thats not CNN and watch them destroy us or try to destroy us just because they don't like the story which is again proven to be completely true then your next yeah your next if your doing a job but have a story that they dont' like Yeah We remember that

46:18 I remember that. Yeah, I remember it. President Obama was saying Fox News is crap! Can't watch Fox News? It's horrible! That's fake?! No good?? They're liars!? We could go to WikiLeaks now and actually more Chelsea Manning but i have something that popped up this morning which was very Dark a very dark piece on CNN and at the same time was actually it's beautiful. It's a promotion for Entertainment of course you always have to throw an entertainment promotion there And it is some putting some fear in there that really what the question here Is what happens if there's a terrorist attack during the inauguration? And everybody's wiped out

47:03 I mean these are the things you should ask if you're CNN of course. If everybody's wiped out then what happens? Who is in line, who is next who will actually become the president somehow Biden gets in no it could be worse actually and this will and as I said it'll flow into uh A nice promotional piece for Designated Survivor, which is on ABC. But this is a CNN piece... Who Is The Designated Survivor If Everyone Dies Tomorrow? Just about every measure of America's security apparatus including 28 thousand law enforcement personnel will be on the ground in Washington when President Obama hands off his office to Donald Trump on Friday. A near army in place to protect the leaders of all branches of government gathered in one place outside

47:46 And while officials stress there's no specific credible threat to this inauguration, tonight due to a quirk in America's rules for succession questions remain about just who would be in charge if an attack hit the incoming president vice-president and congressional leaders just as the transfer of power is underway. Here you have a very confusing line of succession. According to the Constitution, if the president and vice-president are killed or incapacitated next in line is the House speaker then the President pro tempore of the Senate but what if something happened to them at the inauguration too? After that, it goes down the list of cabinet secretaries starting with Secretary of State. On the day of inauguration as a precaution, a cabinet secretary called the designated presidential successor will not attend the inauguration ready to step in if something happens

48:34 But it won't be a Trump cabinet secretary, since none of them have been confirmed yet. It will be an Obama appointee. No word from the White House on who that will be on Friday. Does the line-of succession switch to the new president's lineup at noon? In the inauguration you have two lines of succession one for the Barack Obama administration which is still in place and one which really wont' be in place until Donald Trump is inaugurated comes into office and actually formally nominates, and the Senate confirms his people. You might actually end up with a president from the prior administration because of a tragedy." Adding to the confusion by noon Friday all... Did you hear what was in the background of that clip? If you listen again so while they're saying while the guy's talking there's um a clip of President Obama being inaugurated the first time uh no the third time

49:22 uh... and he and they cut it he says that i will faithfully execute and the carma right there as we're just dislike a little amount of money thing listening to ministration because of its you can hear in about this been about actually end up with the president's work on the fire administration executed because of a travel-free adding to the confusion by noon friday all obama's cabinet secretaries are expected to resign John Kerry, the current Secretary of State would be the first cabinet secretary in the line of succession. But he's out of office by noon Donald Trumps pick for Secretary of State Rex Tillerson may not be confirmed for another week or two So who would be Secretary of State on Friday afternoon? According to state department sources The job would fall to the highest ranking non-political official in the department

50:06 the undersecretary for political affairs, Tom Shannon. One of the most obscure possibilities is that someone who is an acting secretary of state, someone lower down in line than a secretary of state at State Department today assumes the acting secretary position and is in the line when worst happens and that person becomes president for awhile. The uncertainty creates potential for chaos high theater or hit TV drama Sir you are now President of United States In ABC's designated survivor, Kiefer Sutherland plays an obscure cabinet secretary unexpectedly thrust... You get the idea. So first of all Wow Who decided to put this together? Maybe it's a native ad for ABC That's the only thing I could think of because they keeps on going and going about the ABC show which is okay I mean, I've seen it couple episodes. I was following it for bit and I got bored of it It's not watchable Yeah, no really well he thought that was

51:06 Good to put in there, I guess. Well let's transfer this discussion to Manning Yeah good Peyton manning Peyton manning now it's a shame he retired oh i'm sorry i was thinking chelsea manning um Can i have just a quick precursor? I'll just play uh like 30 seconds the news media had this A week ago because they all of a sudden they started talking about it started talking This is from january 11th on NBC Was Chelsea Manning a spy? She was not. She was an individual who I think we count on in America, she was a whistleblower she was somebody who turns to like so many other whistleblowers a journalist in order to reveal information that the American public not only should know but needs to know

51:56 Army Reserve Officer David Coombs was Manning's defense lawyer. He convinced her to plead guilty to numerous counts... So that goes on and on and they talk about possible pardon, and this was a week ago all over the news media I'm pretty sure it was leaked maybe maybe to give them more credibility like oh yeah I'll give you guys something that will actually happen. Well I think it would be less more likely to do that to see what their reaction would be Ah as a trial balloon good idea But I didn't expect the reaction to be so screwy. Here's a, I have this short, I have a series of clips where I had the short clip of Obama announcing it and then he doesn't really say that much although... He makes one point in there that Republicans don't seem to accept First of all let's be clear Chelsea Manning has served a tough prison sentence

52:50 So the notion that the average person who was thinking about disclosing vital classified information would think that it goes unpunished I don't think would get bad impression from the sentence that Chelsea Manning has served. It has been my view, given she went to trial, that due process was carried out. That she took responsibility for her... Point. ...that the sentence that she received was very disproportionate relative to what other leakers had received."

53:49 And the points he's making in there were directed at Snowden. Oh yeah! And this whole thing, in fact NBC which who I now think is pretty much carrying the ball for the agency, the intelligence community more so than CBS I think had probably done the best job of kind of presenting it as something that's okay now that we can do this. And, I have a couple of clips there is the NBC on Manning clip and then I think you would follow with the Snowden angle The display NBC on Manning sorry. He's tried to commit suicide last year she is currently incarcerated in the male military prison at Leavenworth Kansas was the government able to point to any specific damage as a result of the releases from Chelsea man no they were not and we had secret sessions of the court-martial where

54:44 That would be the place that the government would do that and the answer was no What they wouldn't be able to show and what they did show was certain diplomats had their feelings hurt Certain countries were upset Manning's 35-year sentence is the longest any leaker has ever received But not everyone supports the decision a senior US official tells NBC News Secretary of Defense Ash Carter Did not support the commutation at her trial manning opposed So, interesting is it's not a pardon but a commutation right off the bat. Yeah well...

55:27 I think they needed to keep make sure that she remained guilty of chart of the charges They just cut the sentence down. That's all it is, right? But they got her out before the 35 years for pretty much doing nothing and I liked the idea with this guy saying hey We looked at this all that happened was a few diplomats feelings were have feelings were hurt as the best part Oh my feelings were hurt because we I was calling people douchebag So NBC goes on and they associate the whole thing with Snowden eventually, but let's skip over to PBS. And they had actually a complete report that wasn't too cloudy.

56:05 Today also commuted the prison sentence of Chelsea Manning for passing classified military and diplomatic files to WikiLeaks. The former US Army intelligence analyst is serving a sentence of 35 years, she is one of 209 inmates who received commutations today another 64 received pardons Charlie Savage is covering the story for The New York Times. Charlie Savage, remind us what Chelsea Manning was originally charged with? Hi yes thanks for having me on so when Chelsea Manning was arrested in 2010 and charged with passing documents to WikiLeaks she was charged with numerous accounts of violating the Espionage Act and also was charged with aiding the enemy which is essentially the military justice system's version of treason

56:55 She was convicted of the Espionage Act charges, most of them but was acquitted of aiding the enemy. And she was sentenced to 35 years in prison which is dramatically longer than any other prison sentence ever carried out in the American justice system for leak case and do we know why the president decided to commute her sentence? So, there was a briefing call with senior White House officials after these commutations and pardons were announced. And the senior White House official—we weren't allowed to name them under the ground rules—described a little bit of the president's thinking about this. He said, look she admitted that what she had done was wrong and apologized for it and expressed remorse and has now been serving nearly seven years in prison

57:46 for it and most people who have been convicted of the leak case in leak cases has been about a dozen, most of them in the last eight years have been convicted had been sentenced to you know one two or three years not 35. And so part of this was also the equity making this sentence more in the range what other people accused of similar conduct have received So the question is what signals does this send? Tonight, the Speaker of the House Paul Ryan has issued a statement saying quote this is just outrageous. Okay, so let's stop there and then play a douchebag for Paul Ryan You know the thing that is it outrageous everybody else is like they said getting one two or three years And she's gotten 35 and this is outrageous They let her go after seven the thing that gets me in this because there was nothing in these releases you've read them They're just a bunch of dumb memos. Hey, there's dinner tonight

58:42 Yeah, it's cables and people are saying calling other people you know officials in their own country douchebag. I mean the main thing was the video where you have the helicopter gunship with the audio of the guys and i can't really blame them because they're saying oh they're in a war zone but they're like yeah towelhead get him! That is really... The optics are bad. But here's the thing Chelsea Manning leaked all that information to WikiLeaks. So here's what's crazy, if you look at the bag right now you got the bots going oh so fabulous he's so good Oh Obama yes yes yes yes Queen yes yes but yes hey Chelsea! But at the same time the same people are saying WikiLeaks is crap they changed the email

59:38 Crap, it's not legitimate! They have to choose one or the other. You know you can't have both ways Here's Jake Tapper This is the clip I played earlier It's interesting also because I remember when the WikiLeaks happened I was a White House correspondent like you, Margaret. And I remember the White House was so outraged they were so angry They were so convinced that these reams of documents thousands and thousands of page of documents logs from Iraq logs from Afghanistan We're going to reveal to our enemies sources and methods individuals named in these documents now i don't know if There have actually been any victims as a result that you could clearly say this was wiki leaked and therefore this person in Afghanistan or Iraq died. I don't know but that's absolutely right, that was the argument that it greatly compromised US national security and then you had to make an example out of this sort of thing And i will say That the way that Senator Cotton describes private manning

1:00:29 is how the White House, when I was a White House correspondent described Private Manning as well. They were furious they were outraged they thought that those of us in the press who are reading these Wikileaks that we were doing something wrong by reading them. And if I recall correctly, it really put WikiLeaks on the map! That particular case those files made WikiLeaks famous Especially the gunned ship video Yeah so you know it's just... If anything this is confusing people more Brains and heads are exploding everywhere because of this Well NBC going back to NBC

1:01:10 Now, they end up moving the argument...they split the argument a little bit and they try to move it kind of to Assange and then just Snowden. Because they wanna make this association. They're really going after Snowden in another big way. And again, this is the reason we believe or I personally believe that the Russians are big A-hole since 2013 when this all began, the anti-Russian stuff. Because of Snowden, because we don't have an extradition treaty with the Russians and whose fault is that? But we don't. So the Russians really can't just grab this guy and send him off there

1:01:51 I don't know what we expect, but let's play NBC on Manning-Snowden angle. Sources inside the intelligence community believe the reason Manning's sentence was so stiff was because Edward Snowden's massive leaks came to light just as Manning was being sentenced. Snowden was beyond the reach of the U.S and Russia. Manning paid the price. A petition for a pardon for Mr. Snowden with over 1 million signatures was not acted upon by The White House. Lester? So they make the connection and they use one of their best hit people to do it. But now let's play, this is NBC Snowden Putin, they bring Putin in, Putin Trump! Everybody brought into this clip. Alright Cynthia McFadden in New York thank you and speaking of Snowdens current home

1:02:40 Russia. Today Vladimir Putin came to the defense of President-elect Donald Trump breaking his silence about those unverified allegations leaked about Mr. Trump last week, while here at home more Democrats are joining an inauguration boycott with just three days to go NBC's Hallie Jackson has more Tonight, from Vladimir Putin a perhaps unsurprising response to those salacious but unsubstantiated allegations about Donald Trump. Rubbish the Russian leader says defending Trump in his first public statement about that report. Putin accusing the Obama administration of trying to delegitimize Trump working to solidify a political

1:03:21 partnership even before it officially begins Friday, Inauguration Day. But dozens of Democrats will be boycotting the no-shows now numbering more than 50 scattered reports of boycotts popped up in 1973 with Richard Nixon and 2001 with George W Bush but nothing that reached this level of coverage sparked by comments from congressman and civil rights freedom rider John Lewis, who despite saying this would be his first missed inauguration also skipped President Bush's in 2001. We didn't attend it like so many other members of Congress did but President Bush was a friend of mine and he got caught in a very bad lie so let's see what happens as far as other people not going that's okay because we need seats so badly demonstrations already starting in Washington

1:04:07 At least 99 of them planned this week, some for most against with a different public protest coming from a top intelligence official CIA head John Brennan taking serious offense to Trump's accusation he leaked sensitive information and suggestion intelligence agencies use Nazi like tactics. Brennan telling the Wall Street Journal when his integrity is challenged quote that's where I think the line is crossed Oh my goodness. Brennan was never mentioned of course, but he took offense! He can take a powder and out him. Yeah, pencil pusher go away

1:04:50 You have one more PBS manning clip you want yes, just the way that PBS thing finished up and I thought the PBS Again handled this probably better than the other networks who were just kind of glossed over a bunch of stuff try to Bring their hit people into just do guilt by association measures like this Putin thing right? And like Hallie says all Unsurprisingly Putin came to his defense. Mm-hmm. Which I though was offensive Yeah Okay Manning on PBS2. Tonight the Speaker of the House Paul Ryan has issued a statement saying quote this is just outrageous he says Chelsea Manning's treachery put American lives at risk and exposed some of our nation's most sensitive secrets and he says the president now leaves in place a dangerous precedent that those who compromise our national security won't be held accountable for their crimes

1:05:41 the Just a clarification, none of the documents that Chelsea Manning leached were classified above the merely classified level. That is to say none of them were top secret. That was another thing that The White House was stressing today in comparing her to Edward Snowden who President Obama declined to pardon so that to say they're some of the most sensitive secrets is an exaggeration and also military prosecutors all at the at her court-martial

1:06:22 did not accuse her or present any evidence that anyone was actually killed as a result of her leaks. On the other hand, the government did scramble afterwards to move some people out of harm- potential harms way who were named in some of the documents as having helped American diplomats or troops in very dangerous countries lest they come to harm So, the fact that no one was killed didn't mean that it wasn't indeed putting some people at risk. And she has apologized for having done that." Yeah well okay... It was a very different story seven years ago! Very very different I have a couple more clips that we'll play later again where they as these guys leave their rewrite they're doing this you know and by the way when Obama

1:07:11 finish his thing, his last press conference. It would have been nice if he had said you know I feel disappointed in myself because I promised to shut down Gitmo and I was unable to do it. It was more complicated than I thought. I didn't know there's going to be so much resistance and I'm sorry I didn't miss the one thing... He never does that! Never apologizes for any of his failures. You can take that to the bank! And that's one of us taking it to the bank things and anyways I just found they kind of disappointing And I find it very disappointing that the Republicans are all in on this. Let's punish this poor Chelsea Manning person who leaked a bunch of funny memos, as far as I was concerned is more humor than anything else because she put all his stuff at risk and there...and meanwhile Obama put more whistleblowers in jail than anybody ever

1:08:03 combined in history, and nobody says anything about that. And yet we're supposed to be protecting whistleblowers that are citing corruption in government. That's what they're doing. I don't know. I just find the whole thing very disappointing end of year and a very disappointed... Like anyone gives a crap but I just think that Paul Ryan and McCain and these guys are incredible douchebags. They are douchebags. Rosie O'Donnell who of course is part of The Resistance She says, hey you know Trump is illegitimate candidate so why don't we just have someone temporary president and her idea was John McCain. Yeah well Rosie O'Donnell should just choose our president that's fine I'll wrap this up with kind of a tease for what we will do after our what we will do in the B block

1:08:52 As finally an actual journalist came out and said something really good Bob Woodward of course one half of the Watergate reporting team that brought you the Watergate tapes And he is talking here about the Golden Shower dossier. What do you think? of the way that the intelligence community handled the so-called Russia dossier and overall how do you think of the way they've handled Donald Trump? I think what's underreported here is Trump's point of view on it. And you laid it out when those former CIA people said these things about Trump, that he was a recruited agent of the Russians. A useful fool

1:09:40 yeah and a useful fool. I mean they started this, yes and in Trump's mind he knows the old adage once a CIA man always a CIA man and no one came out and said those people shouldn't be saying things so then act two is the briefing when this dossier is put out I've lived in this world for 45 years where you get things and people make allegations. That is a garbage document, it never should have been presented as part of an intelligence briefing as you suggested other channels

1:10:19 have the White House counsel give it to Trump's incoming White House counsel. So, Trump is right to be upset about that and I think if you look at the real chronology in the nature of the battle here those intelligence chiefs who were the best we've had who were terrific and have done great work made a mistake here and when people make mistakes they should apologize yeah it would be nice if he said that on something Wow else God give you a borderline clip of the day for bringing that one to the floor and we know you know he is he is in the brawl

1:10:59 All that we can figure out, he is a CIA guy. Totally! So he's not coming out to... I just want to remind people He's not coming out on his own, just yacking away about something Casually, he's been given the go-ahead to do this. Yeah So there's something there that may be what you talked about earlier because we know Brennan is just a douchebag The guy was just Obama appointee and pencil pusher and it could be the rank-and-file The second, you know that second or third tier people get give giving him the go ahead to do this right?

1:11:35 Which means that they're maybe not as anti-Trump overall, which is what you suggested. And Glenn Greenwald suggests that the whole agency just hates Trump but it may not be true. May not be that bad. Well with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you John You are the C stands for Chelsea Manning commutation, Dvorak. In the morning to you Mr Adam Curry also in the morning all of the ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air and subs in the water. And in the morning too all our listeners on the stream noagentostream.com thank you very much for hanging in there during our delayed start of program. In the morning to Pac-Man Retro

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1:13:23 Yeah, wrong. It's Pualap. Pualap? Oh interesting. P-U-Y, Pualap good. Yeah, P-U-A-L-A-P it's an Indian tribe I guess and it is pronounced Pualap at least they pronounce it Pualap in Pualap you...I've heard it pronounced Pualap but Pualap sounds good sound is the easier way to pronounce it anyway 300 bucks Washington that's in Washington state so long with a number of other silly sounding towns Hey guys, it's Bruce here. The Face Bag Jingle Guy Oh hold on this is... Oh that's the one? No wait I think this is the one It's not it No this is it Yeah

1:14:13 When Adam needs to make an example of some typical slaves He just reads the comments on their face back page. I'm gonna read face back Gonna lose some brain cells I put that in the end of the show Not sure if you guys saw my tweet But I dropped some no agenda on these liberal Christians at a live podcast called ask science Mike and He's not a scientist and just waxes poetic about his feelings. The entire show was a Trump cry, a Trump cry fest. 54 minutes... Why are you listening to this? Bruce! Really? It says 54 I always get a kick out of these guys who hate my columns for it. I read your column six times and I hate it! You stink! I hate it

1:15:05 54 minutes in I dropped some value for value info on them, and then he's got a link. I guess okay And then he asked John when you're gonna do a meet up here in the Pacific Northwest keep him great work I'm also calling out Justin Hartford Or Hartford as a douchebag. A boner! It goes not as a boner, but we have the same thing. We don't have a boner jingle so... Let's give him some karma he is the only executive producer today so might as well. You've got karma. There you go. Johnny of the swamp in Washington DC 23457 20 it'd be associate executive producer for show 896 I thank you John and Adam for making the best podcast in the universe Please accept my overdue donation of two three four five seven alongside 2 3 4 5 7 not 6 mm-hmm as I have been freeloading a free loading douchebag for too long

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1:16:49 That was, um... That supported Trump. Supported Trump even though you really didn't. You kind of supported... Truth! You supported around Trump? Yeah. You think that they would have done enough research to find you and then give you a ticket? Yep not happening Johnny of the Swamp says, has a PS. He says, A little bird told me that BuzzFeed is getting no press credentials this Friday." Well you recall that I also...that we heard and before all this press moving to a different building happened that the Trump administration will be evaluating all press credentials every month to see if someone should be invited back or not? Well, I think they do that anyway. I don't believe for a minute that they don't do that

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1:19:23 Boarding the plane from Amsterdam and seating in row 33 was the first signal. Getting Mac and, this is a big plane, getting Mac and cheese for dinner okay universe you made yourself clear that's another way to say it when I'm on the plane got on seat 33 they gave him a mac and cheese Time to donate for sure. I'd say and then the kicker He says having to look at Neil deGrasse Tyson during the in-flight entertainment made it clear time to donate Oh, man What was he doing? Does he have some kind of a some kind of... He's got a rain cloud over his head. Oh, Elon! Elon the amount 20160 is what the SLS or sans lausanne sans no SLS and sans let's know I don't know what it is. The SLS hotel in Vegas tried to overcharge me in resort fee oh that's interesting That's about Thank you very much please continue your efforts debunking the media BS can I get a was he got here for a request? Why do Millennials cry? I don't know what that is

1:20:29 That's the second time somebody has asked for this. Right? Somebody else asked for this, right? I don't remember anyone asking for this! I think it was last show that someone had this and we were like, oh fuck... Okay well someone has to tell me. I got the mac n' cheese stuff for him which i'll do now. Give him a mac n' cheese then he can eat it. You slaves can get used to Mac N Cheese. Mac N Cheese. Mac N Cheese. Macaroni and cheese. Cheddar melted together. Mac N Cheese. Mac N Cheese. Mac N Cheese. Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand. You've got karma. Hold on a second, the chat room is trying to help out here they say it was a Prince cover? Why did Manuel's cry? Maybe... I don't remember it well we're gonna have to have someone else someone will help us out okay. And that concludes our group of 1-2-3 people. Holy crap!

1:21:27 Quick PR mention here Actually, I don't know if it's really a mention but i got a note from Jeff in Calgary. Adam we haven't seen any no agenda inauguration meetups let me know here of anything? I'll be with DC 9-11 truth at 7am! I know the seed guy will be roaming around with his info warriors other than that I haven't heard anything Haven't seen much activity from the Oath Keepers surprising Okay let me know what's going on so um...I think there is number people who will be in Dc please try and organize at Meetup dot com See if you can get that to get something together. I think it'd be cool the number of people who listen to the show who will Be there and we also have a boots on the ground guy, and yeah It was doing some video and fun definitely got some stuff Thank you very much to our sole executive producer and our associate executive producers actual credits You can use them anywhere They're very effective if you use them on your LinkedIn page because you look like an executive producer which you are

1:22:24 And we'll be thanking more people who came in with $50 or above later on the program. And remember, we got another show coming up on Sunday where of course We will deconstruct everything that went on Friday Remember us at... And while you're down there in DC why don't you go propagate the formula? Our formula is this! We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, slave. Alrighty I have a little aside here

1:23:04 You know, there's one show that people cite a lot and it is kind of competitive with our show. Although it doesn't...it's not really. No I can't wait to hear this! Well you've heard the show, it's called On The Media. Oh pfff! It's not at all like our show? No it's not at all like our show but people like to compare it to our show because they do media deconstruction and sometimes they do it well. But I always felt it was like everything else that you run into on NPR. It was in some way or other slanted and it was just another couple of liberals

1:23:41 going on and on about stuff that the way they see it, not completely in the other dimension. But I may take that back. They make be in the other dimension that you always talk about when you hear one of the two hosts in this particular clip which is the on the media depressed dude clip. This is On The Media. I'm Brooke Gladstone. And I'm Bob Garfield. In our editorial meeting this week even through the speakerphone connecting me with the team in New York The staff detected in my voice a slight suicidal despondency. Why so glum, chum? They wanted to know and I said it's just that we're all so f**ked It's hard to drag my sorry self out of bed in the morning This is when producer Alana Casanova Burgess chimed in Bob have you read Hope In The Dark

1:24:34 She was referring to the book of encouragement and call to action by left-wing activist philosopher Rebecca Solnit, who expresses optimism about the future based not on naivete or denial but on lessons of history. Solnit is impatient with despair not only because it paralyzes political action but because she says it is historically indefensible. Historically indefensible. Well, whatever she says... Is that Nazi reference or what is that? I don't know no i don't think so but this guy then does an interview with her and they talk back and forth and he asked just to earnestly to have a read from the beginning of first chapter now who was she again

1:25:20 She's actually a local around here. She's I think in San Francisco or Berkeley, she's a writer you should look her up. First name Solnit, S-O-L-N-I-T just look at her she is an unreconstructed hippie, she's about 70. She looks like a depressive and so but she's really uplifting in this book and so they have her read from it and I want you to hear her in the second clip because this is a person that I think definitely in a different dimension. Because if anybody thinks, this is her she's reading from the book in her uplifting way much like if you went to a speech where some guy was just getting y'all riled up and it was he went out to sell some product on behalf of the company and here she goes tell me how good you feel after listening to this? A bit of mutual wailing about how bad everything was. A recitation of evidence against us

1:26:17 One exciting opportunity the left offers us is of being your own prosecutor. That just buried any hope and imagination down in a dank little foxhole of curled up despair Now I watch people having it, wondering what it is we get from it The certainty of despair Is even that kind of certainty so worth pursuing? Stories trap us, stories free us We live and die by stories But hearing people have the conversation as hearing them Tell themselves a story they believe is being told to them What other stories can be told? How do people recognize that they have the power to be storytellers, not just listeners?" Oh hold on a second. Shoot myself in the head after that! Here's here's a better way of listening to her. Perfect wow she's no wonder she's depressed my goodness

1:27:16 Anyway, so this to me is the and I again. This is not an objective An objective show And I don't see how anyone can get anything positive out of it if this is the kind of and again It sounds like you're in this other dimension because this is not an uplifting little spiel by any means this is she's pressing person This is rampant John. This is rampant And the other dimension, I certainly don't live in that dimension but I can visit it. They are desperately hoping that something happens and that's why the CNN piece... Oh hey we can even stand losing the Obamas and the Clintons! It'll be a loss but at least Trump wouldn't be president! That's what going on here! People wishing people death and ill will

1:28:05 I know they want everyone dead. They themselves seem to be somewhat dead now, I can barely get out of bed A normal person in this situation with this show on the media they would have said holy crap we're gonna have nothing but great material Yeah, that's what we said. Yeah holy it doesn't matter who wins. We're happy to show going forever But no they're so invested in the political system So their whole personality is tied up and being a Democrat You know there's an interesting piece in Politico well actually in may not want to say interesting but it's being passed around the face bags a lot And the title of it is he has this deep fear that he is not a legitimate president? And what politico did is they brought in

1:28:52 1, 2, 3, 4 I think 5...4 or five journalists who were on the beat. Who covered Trump who covered him in 2000 and just you know covering all the time and so they give their opinion about him and the headline comes from one of these journalists who just up and says that with no way to actually find a piece here No backup with no proof. Yeah, well it's not even that here he is He's always good this is from the D'Antonio whoever that guy is D'Antonio what was his first name? Anyway D'Antonio says this is a person who has never known whether anybody wants to be around him Hold on second

1:29:46 Here it is. He's always kind of gaming the system, not in my view winning on the merits and even his election was with almost 3 million fewer votes than his opponent so he has this deep fear that he is himself not a legitimate president and I think that's why he goes to such great lengths to delegitimize even the intelligence community I mean, so that's just conjecture. But every single journalist who and I don't know if they taped audio my God would love to hear what they were talking about every single one is bitching consistently about one issue and you know what it is Twitter They cannot stand that he goes around them They can't stand it That is the number one problem They hate it It's not protocol It's not tradition

1:30:35 Yeah, well they're the conservatives. Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone magazine who I like...I don't know him personally he seems actually he seems personally seemed like a douchebag but the stuff he's written about financial crimes in Rolling Stone Magazine have been nothing short of stellar. He's probably the only guy who really does anything So, you know anything of that level of speaking truth to power. And of course it goes largely unnoticed because he's Rolling Stone magazine and gives a crap and then he went off to the 250 million dollar WordPress blog and that was horrible

1:31:12 You recall and then he said, yeah, you didn't last there. No two weeks I think is what he lasted match So the thing was a CBC Canadian broadcasting who went to an interview him in New York And it focused mainly on Putin Trump their connection That's not true. You lived in worked in Russia for a long time What's your take? Did you know that he worked in Russia? I believe he was working with Russia on this man this magazine with Mark Ames Who I like even better than Taibbi. I think Mark Ames is just a dynamite investigative reporter and he's more neutral politically in his writing than Taibbi who is very much of a Democrat You lived and worked in Russia for a long time, what's your take on all that? Is he a puppet of Putin

1:31:58 Well, it's very hard to say. I lived in Russia for a long time and personally remember Putin destroying government officials with sex tapes. I was there and I remember watching him when he was the FSB chief give an analysis of a sex tape involving a character named Yuri Skoropov. He is little confused. It is FSB now but he was KGB then And it wasn't a chief. No, it was certainly wasn't the Chief of Staff. They've done this over and over again in their past. And you'll hear Matt Taibbi has a lot of things wrong that he's just heard and just is regurgitating as well. The two of them were living in Russia as a couple of troublemakers. I think they got run out of the country probably. Oh, that would make sense then? So this is something they do however there's really no concrete evidence still that Trump

1:32:50 involved in any of the shenanigans that have been alleged. You know, there's some evidence for one side of this equation which is about Putin's meddling in the electoral process and hacking the Democratic National Committee. And there are experts who have reasons for believing that he did that—that are good reasons—but there's really no concrete evidence that Trump is in on it in any way or that he was anything other than a moronic beneficiary of Putin's geopolitical whimsy. I like moronic beneficiary. Geopolitical whimsy.

1:33:27 Beneficiary moronic beneficiary Taibi has it right though. He he's a Prizes himself as an actual journalist is if I can't prove it, I can't write about it If I had no backup, I can't write about it And he says that has created a two-tier system of media certainly here in the United States have Gitmo nation We've had this problem now for over a decade in America Which is that we have two tiers of the media? We have this sort of clickbait internet tier where anything goes and all kinds of material circulates and it's been accelerated by the social media. And then we have this upper tier what we call the legacy media, where theoretically we don't do things like that. We check, verify, we don't put things that are dubious or knowingly untrue but what were allowing them to do now is ping pong back-and-forth. The legacy media reports on

1:34:19 the less legitimate media all the time, so it's an end run around the old protections. And we've had a breakdown because of that." He is forgetting the third tier which is us who deconstruct the mainstream Well, I think we don't really account...there's not enough of us the two of us to account for being a tier which assumes that there's a lot people. I think what he... We're more like a step stool. ...a native advertising, that's what he should be talking about. Yeah, he didn't mention that at all. But he did follow up on this, you know if you report your damned if you do damned if

1:35:10 For instance, there's a news story that everybody is talking about that you can't confirm. How do you report on that? If you can't confirm the core allegation that's in the story but it's news everywhere and everyone is talking about it... You cannot cover it! On the other hand, you really can't cover it either so its uh.. It's a difficult thing In the old days, a story like this probably would never have appeared on the networks. It wouldn't have been in The New York Times or CNN. And we've referred to how the media loves to choose our presidents for us. uh... by highlighting some incredible gaff and here's a tidy on that we've had this distribution in our campaign journalism going back quite awhile now where when it can it slips up does something dumb we need to listen swirl around the candidate and uh... announced that the person is no longer legitimate viable politician media yet immediately in the media we do that we did at the people like howard dean

1:36:07 Gary Hart was another senator who had an affair. Love that one! Isn't it crazy? How long ago is that? That was in...that was the four years before Obama, so that was 2004 I think it was 2001. Could be. It could be or yeah One screen, that noise disqualified the guy Well, what it did is...nothing disqualifies a guy as Trump has proven. But what it did to me because I remember this guy very well for one thing he was talked up he was on the cover of all the magazines he was gonna be the next president was a done deal and he... He got honey potted man with Donna Rice You're talking about Hart I'm talking about the screen Oh! I'm sorry yes Dean

1:37:03 So this guy was Dean, so he was getting a lot of... And this is all Joe Trippi by the way who was the uh... I remember now. The guy who's running this campaign He was a shoe-in and it actually hit to me I think he was killed before he did that stupid scream because why'd he lose this election that he do that scream? Because he lost some primary, a big one and it's gonna win all these other states. And then he screams. It was when he finally showed up because he was discussed on the print media constantly and then he shows up and I believe it was on The Carson Show or Orlando, I can't remember who is running at the time but he comes out of one of his late night talk shows

1:37:47 And he comes out kind of hunched over and he has this red tie on that I swear to God, at least the way I remember it was down to his knees. Too long... Tie too long bad look Trump does that too. His ties are too long Well anyway he comes out with this stupid tie and then he's being interviewed as a goofball Yeah He is an obvious goofball This guy is not going to be president! He was already on the downturn before The screen was just the closer That was the end for good But thats not the reason I can assure you Then we get a little insight, I'm wrapping it up here. A little insight into the press corps traveling with the president and where Taibbi was in the pecking order. You compared the media to The Mean Girls? The Heathers? Oh yeah! Yeah Really?! Yeah no I mean i've been on the campaign plane and uh...I've been one of the unpopular kids who's been banished at the back of the plane to sit with the techies

1:38:45 And there are documentarians I know who were filming the other reporters in the plane, who became unpopular with the other reporters because that was theoretically off limits. You weren't supposed to write about what went on inside the bubble and so they got to sit in the back with me as well. Because you have been very critical? By the way he just glosses over that and says ah sitting back with the techies how rude is that! The techies keep the plane in the air. The techies, dudes named Ben, dudettes named Ben. Oh I know but they are disrespected and thrown in the back. Oh totally disrespected very bad very bad and he just oh that's normal because that is where techies belong a-hole. In the back with me as well

1:39:26 Because you have been very critical. I have, yeah. I've written about the media, written about how we cover stories... You say that they're in bed basically with corrupt politicians? Yeah and then also there's this corrupting relationship that happens it's almost like a kind of Stockholm Syndrome on the campaign trail where you're with the same people over and over again week after week month after month and you start to sympathize with the people on the campaign I think that's what happened over the years. Reporters and politicians have adopted each others point of view, and they've lost touch with how ordinary people think and they don't talk to people out there as much Trump capitalized on that he sensed that He made us in the media villains Representatives of this out-of-touch ivory tower political culture Yeah It was an easy target

1:40:19 But I like that Tybee has self-awareness. Final clip about the sanctimoniously smug. especially east and west coast liberal types who people in what we call flyover America, they view us as snobs who are looking down on regular people. And we're always trying to tell them how to run their lives even though we can't change an oil filter by ourselves. There's a lot of resentment towards that kind of person. It's a class division that we've always had a difficult time

1:40:59 talking about in this country. We just don't do class very well, and so that's one of the reasons why this Trump phenomenon kind of crept up on everybody it's because these divisions are things that we don't normally pay a lot of attention to. Sanctimoniously smug! Sanctimoniously smug! Sanctimoniously smug! Sanctimoniously smug! Yes, and John Oliver returns Sunday. Speaking of Satan, come on, you're so smug! I will mention that anyone who's a regular NOAGENDA listener never had the problem of things like that creeping up on you. Holy whoa-whoa-whoa! Ha ha no... No, of course not

1:41:42 Yeah, never have just to switch it up and I do have some. Before you do that? Yep. I do want to throw one little thing in a little clip that's in the middle of not switching anything. I've just had loan clip this was from that same on The Media Show. Another example of the changing, the way... Well I'm telling you just play this. This is a bonus clip. In many ways it's very frightening but at the same time means that the future is yet unwritten and its up to the media to help write it Unwritten! Unwritten! Unwritten! Unwritten! This guy's the editor of ThinkProgress Putin! Putin! Putin! Unwritten! But he's doing it wrong

1:42:24 Pronouncing the T's written. That's that's the other one we've discussed with the I know that's what the cool kids are doing is pronounce it written over pronouncing yes, well he's not a cool kid obviously just oh I got a couple clips from Davo the Davo drinking club. Oh, yes, and you love me I love me some Davo drinking Club One of our dude name uh yes dude named Ben was kind of a dude named Ben home You see where is he sent me an email? Hmm. Okay, I'll look that up while I play the first clip. Yeah he's actually doing sound at a couple of the events there and He did sound for the George Clooney breakfast And he says Amal who by the way Amal was at least WikiLeaks lawyer? I don't know why we don't harass her

1:43:20 Remember when they got married? She was wicking, she was a Julie Nassange's lawyer. I remember that. Yeah little problem there George. We brought it up and then we never brought it back into the conversation. Little problem there George. He said she weighs about, can't weigh more than 98 pounds and apparently she is pregnant Skin over bones. Yeah, we always thought she looked unhealthy Anyway a couple of clips the first one nice little truth wants to come out from John Kerry here There are a lot of people here Mr Secretary myself included who are walking around with a pit in their stomach or fear that so many things you just Articulated and achieved could be reversed in a week I don't believe there will be I just don't believe that

1:44:07 I mean, take Iran for instance. If the United States were to decide suddenly and say hey we're not going to pursue this and so forth...I'll bet you- I haven't talked all of them but i'll bet you that Our friends and allies who negotiated this with us will get together, and that Russia China Germany France and Britain will say you know what? This is a good deal. We're going to keep it And Iran and the rest of them they will keep it! And we'll have made ourselves the odd person out...we'll have injured our own credibility in conceivably irreparable way. And it won't hurt for the endurance of year or two years whatever while administration's there But its unnecessary because So he says

1:44:47 It'll last during the year or two years that the administration is there. Well, I think he's talking about Iran No, he's talking about the Trump administration He actually- I think you're talking about Iran Mmm, he clarifies it listen to the whole clip Probably irreparable way and it will hurt for the endurance of You know we year two years whatever while the administration is there but it's unnecessary because What these people These people have dirty minds. I told you that's going to be active. Did he clear it out? Yeah, gonna be active. He's gonna try and get Trump out in two years this is part of the...I'm telling you this is part of the impeachment. I am not denying that that's underway but I betcha there's a regime change plan that's involving him Oh no doubt about it

1:45:41 Final speech from good old Joe Biden at Davo. And yes, Joe is slurring. But the greatest threat on this front springs from the distinct liberal and external actors who equate their success with fracturing the liberal international order we see in Asia and Middle East I like that the liberal what do you say? Liberal national order Play it again. Yeah, let's see... International order! Ah shoot, back more Joe Who equate their success with fracturing the liberal international order Liberal international order? I've never heard this one We see in Asia and Middle East where China and Iran would clearly prefer a world in which they have overwhelming sway over other regions And I'll not mince words This movement is principally led by Russia Under President Putin

1:46:42 Russia is working with every tool available to them to run and whittle away at the edges of the European project, test default lines among Western nations and return to a politics defined by spheres of influence. We see it in their aggression against their neighbors sending so-called little green men across borders to stir violence and stirs He's drunk Separatism in Ukraine Using energy as a weapon Cutting off gas supplies midwinter. No because they didn't pay the bill Joe raising prices to manipulate nations to act in Russia's interest using corruption to empower oligarchs to course politicians

1:47:23 We see it in their worldwide use of propaganda and false information campaigns. Injecting down on political agitation and democratic systems, strengthening illiberal factions and forces on both left and right to seek out and roll back the decades of progress from within our systems. We even saw it in cyber intrusions against political parties and individuals in the United States of America which our intelligence community all 17 have determined with high confidence i've been doing it 87 oh yeah for 46 years they seldom use the phrase high confidence yeah because they never used the phrase high confidence except the last time was oh yeah aluminum tubes weapons of mass destruction in the united states of america which our intelligence community all 17 are determined with high confidence i've been doing this for 46 years they seldomly used the phrase high confidence. Yeah, they only use it when they have no proof

1:48:17 that they were specifically motivated to influence the elections. But it's not only the United States, I need not tell you that has been targeted Europe has seen the same kind of attacks in the past with many countries in Europe slated to hold elections this year we should expect further attempts by Russia to meddle in the democratic process It will occur again, I promise you and again the purpose is clear to collapse the liberal international order. There it is! Simply put, Mr Putin has a different vision of the future one in which Russia is pursuing across the board It seeks to return to world where the strong imposes will through military might corruption and criminality while weaker nations have to fall on line Hmm... Well this brings me to a series of clips First we gotta play this

1:49:09 So there's a series of news reports and they're going, everyone is doing them about Trump and NATO. Yeah. NATO is the sacred cow and what they're trying to do as they are showing that Mattis Mad Dog, Mad Dog. Mad Dog Mattis who by the way has got his tit in a ringer over being a board member at Theranos. Oh! The fake blood analysis company? The blood analysis company... Which had, what's his face, Colin Powell also on the board of that. Yeah there was a couple of these guys. And Kissinger, Kissinger of course. Yeah, suckers. Yeah suckers and a fine Kleiner Perkins investment Well they kind

1:50:04 Ditched it and now it's all Draper Fisher that is carrying the load. And Tim Draper, I made a comment on Twitter about this he just seems to have a crush on this girl. Seems to me. I know Tim. So let's start with this Trump-NATO thing, because there are a lot of interesting little deconstructions and tidbits. Trump is kind of really not saying much about NATO anymore and Mattis says well I don't understand... And in this report, I believe it was on PBS that we started playing it

1:50:41 It's kind of, maybe NBC. It's kinda a hit piece on Trump but it's like a support of NATO which he says is well play one and we'll go for it. Hundreds of NATO troops died alongside Americans in Afghanistan Mr. Trump had made similar statements during the campaign, but this latest barb came just days after his nominee for defense secretary offered a starkly different opinion. NATO from my perspective having served once as a NATO Supreme Allied Commander is the most successful military alliance probably in modern world history, maybe ever. The Kremlin agreed with the Trump assessment and said NATO's main goal is confrontation but it said little about the president-elect suggestion that he might drop US sanctions on Russia in exchange for nuclear arms reductions Mr. Trump also said he's indifferent about the European Union's future in the wake of Britain's vote to leave it

1:51:40 Personally, I don't think it matters much for the United States. Look the EU was formed partially to beat the United States on trade so i don't really care whether its separate or together The president-elect had special criticism for German Chancellor Angela Merkel. He said she had made a catastrophic mistake in taking in thousands of migrants and refugees, and he said he'll start off trusting Merkel and Russian President Vladimir Putin equally but said that may not last The chancellor answered today in Berlin. I think for us Europeans, we have our fate in our own hands. The president-elect made his points again once he is an office which he is not at this moment We will of course work together with the American government

1:52:26 Then we will see what sort of cooperation we can achieve. Outgoing Secretary of State John Kerry went further in a CNN interview Well I thought frankly it was inappropriate for the President-elect of the United States to be stepping into politics of other countries in quite direct manner Oh my god, so let's review for a moment What I recall Trump saying is hey NATO is outdated people don't pay their fair share It doesn't really do anything good And I think arguably that's right. Certainly the paying part... And the good part may be questionable too, and as you hear their further clips when they try to rationalize what NATO has been doing all these years you find there is really nothing in fact. Well it's a resource extraction unit for the big oil companies that's what happened in Libya

1:53:19 And mainly the French fighters, the French fighter planes were dropping huge bombs. We were... Remember we were refueling? Weren't we refueling and arming or something but we weren't actually dropping bombs?" Yeah, something like that. Also I think Trump said they had a quote at his screen saying, "'I don't care what happens to the EU because they were formed to be our competitor.'" Which is true! They wanted it bigger than us. Yes! Nobody wants to say that. Have their own money Which is the most important part, having your own money. Yeah totally! The euro and they tried to make it into euro oil and euros which we don't like

1:53:57 But that little thing, this defense of NATO has me a little bit baffled and maybe you can help me out after we hear a couple more these clips. Here's the one... This is Trump vs NATO number two We get reaction to Mr. Trump comments from two people with extensive experience managing European relations Nicholas Burns was a career diplomat He was ambassador to NATO during Obama administration he is now at Harvard University and joins us tonight from London Mr. Burns, let me start with you former ambassador to NATO Donald Trump says that NATO is obsolete because it doesn't take on terror unfair to the United States What's your take? He's completely wrong about that I was ambassador to NATO for President George W Bush actually on 9-11

1:54:41 and on 9-11 when we were attacked from al Qaeda in Afghanistan the NATO allies came to us in Brussels they said they wanted to invoke article 5 of the NATO treaty an attack one one of us, it was an attack on all of us. They came to our defense big time they all went into Afghanistan died and were wounded for us in Afghanistan. They're all still fighting in Afghanistan, we fought the terrorism of Al-Qaeda... How many years has that been? And the terrorism of the Taliban and other terrorist groups in Afghanistan So Trump is a Donald Trump is exactly wrong I can tell you having been in London today people here are just flabbergasted by this interview In The Times Of London

1:55:18 to basically denigrate NATO as obsolete, to root openly for the weakening of the European Union. To castigate Angela Merkel our strongest friend in Europe! We have not seen an American president be so openly critical of our allies in 70 years and yet he doesn't criticize our adversary Vladimir Putin." Oh yes, of course... It's not tradition it is not protocol or special relationship This guy, Nicholas Burns. You can look him up. He looks like a spook. Yeah well he does look like a spook but young spook because he hasn't got that white hair yet right? But... And again Putin adversary. He should have mentioned the first as I recall the first leader of any state to offer condolences and any help i believe was Russia

1:56:13 Yeah, and it may have been Putin. I don't know if it was Medvedev. They were the first ones hey dudes anything you need we're here And they said because they have experience they've had they know a lot about terrorism yeah Chechnya all that stuff sure they got tons of experience and I just want to say one thing about NATO Kaliningrad is it Kalingrad? Kalingrad I think Kalingrad If you look at the map is very similar to Crimea. It belongs to Russia, it's a province...it is right above Poland I guarantee you we're gonna see some crap there because we're getting close to the border there with our tanks our was at 4 000 troops first four thousand lord knows

1:57:03 And they're going to be building up there on the border, which is a Russian province. And you're going to see similar issue as with Ukraine and Kaliningrad also very interesting country for pipelines for passing pipelines through. Well, we got to get those stop those Russians from giving people oil. I'm just gonna happen There's a couple things in here that i thought were kind of brought to mind anyway why what's the deal? Why are we For one thing we're pushing nato toward russia so it is a hostile group But I think that if they would be honest with the american public and say one of the reasons for nato And I believe this to be true. I could you know just an extension of our normal thinking

1:57:48 is to prevent Europe from putting together their own damned army, because every time they do anything... the reason for NATO is just really to kind of Throw a wet blanket on the Europeans altogether because they'll just start killing each other again. Yeah, because deep-rooted issues certainly the Germans in the French Yes And that's so we have this NATO to but we can't say that because it would insult the Europeans We can't be honest not tradition It's not true not protocol So let's go on with this complaining with the NATO Clip 3.

1:58:38 ISIS to protect NATO when Russia invades a neighboring country. This, it makes America stronger. It's part of U.S. national security so when you're criticizing NATO and saying it is obsolete you are actually degrading US national security and that what has us all confused about Mr Trumps comments its okay to say Europe not spending enough we need to increase that spending but uh... we get in enormous benefit out of the NATO alliance. Just not tradition, it's not protocol! Again, I'm really telling the truth here for one thing we have not defeated The Taliban And while just while were on I mean so much about Afghanistan there's a story There's a retired CIA agent CIA agent John Abbotsford and he has written he has written a book

1:59:32 He's been on the talk shows. Okay, I haven't seen him he says he's written a book CIA in Afghanistan 30 years of drug smuggling and yeah And he says that way I participated we were smuggling the drugs and he says there's a desperate attempt by the US government to shut me up It is a court case and now you know The way it works with CIA you have to run everything past the pickle factory before you can publish it So he's obviously having an issue with that but I think it'll go nowhere But I can't wait to read it if it ever comes out. Well, he's been floating around Yeah, but you'll catch him on alternative media mostly Let's go to clip four and then we'll let's be the end of this across the brightest red line in international law by invading an annexing Crimea And then dividing eastern Ukraine in Donbass and of course has been threatening our NATO allies the Baltic states those sanctions are in place right now Europeans Canadians and Americans

2:00:30 as leverage against Russia, and the sanctions cannot be lifted until Russia removes its forces from eastern Ukraine. If it doesn't do that and if we give away on sanctions, Russia gets away with grand larceny. The European leadership will be furious with the United States, Angela Merkel especially. She negotiated these sanctions with President Putin directly. And so I think it's a very unwise, it gives away American influence It would be a weak policy by the United States not strong policy. When did... Did you know that Merkel negotiated the sanctions with Putin personally? No, I didn't know that. What he said! I believe it though. Well, I can believe but I think it would be nice to know this and if we're such as strong bunch of tough guys why don't we do it

2:01:20 Oh, because he's our adversary. I have no idea! I do know that the German opposition leader... what is the German opposition leaders name? Parliamentary leader of the opposition... What is her name now? Wagenknecht She says we need to have a security union with Russia for the dissolution of NATO so Trump is not the only one Again, I think this is because NATO's really just a wet blanket to keep the Europeans... Because this nonsense that they helped us invade. Because attacking one of us is attacking all of us so Afghanistan was invaded with the help of NATO. Afghanistan didn't attack us! Nope. Well remember the story at first was

2:02:15 Al Qaeda, Iraq. Then I was like oh crap man yeah no I mean Afghanistan Pakistan and we just went all over the place We are horrible But again, it may be favorable to keep NATO going to keep this World War III from breaking up by these maniacs in the EU. Well they certainly have their own army at play which is as you pointed out is what was not supposed to happen so they have that now or they're getting it started not big but its there. Yeah, they want one... They get to buy twice as many ammunitions I wanna go back to Davos

2:02:53 But first, something very interesting happened with RT. And I caught this report this morning and they're not exactly clear on some things so i'll interrupt and enlighten. RT has been blocked from posting content to its Facebook page the ban was triggered by an algorithm that checks what's being submitted online. RT head of social media has been explaining to me what happened Well, unfortunately a bot struck as it were. We were carrying the live stream of Barack Obama's press conference, his final press conference yesterday as were many news agencies across Facebook and a channel known as Nastya Vremenu which is in fact part of Radio Free Europe. It's owned by the BBG, the US

2:03:39 kind of government media, struck against us. There was a Facebook bot informed us that they had claimed rights on this broadcast. So the let's just presume RT is indeed complete propaganda arm of the state and of Putin what happened is the propaganda arm of the United States, The Broadcast Board Of Governors who run VoiceOfAmerica who run the Russian station you just mentioned they called out, you know they flagged RT's video saying oh that's copyright violation because we have the rights to that. So it's propaganda organizations fighting propaganda organizations this is stellar!

2:04:24 government media, struck against us. There was a Facebook bot informed us that they had claimed rights on this broadcast This claim against has brought us over a certain threshold with Facebook and we unfortunately were struck by a Facebook bot and informed that we are now blocked from posting any content to our Facebook page where we have four million fantastic followers moment, we're waiting to hear from them. Now I should make it clear RT took the AP feed where an AP client and we took the AP feed of Barack Obama presser We've done it loads of times will continue to do it once once the block is lifted but unfortunately were looking at a time limit right now unless we heard from Facebook or can resolve the problem in short term we're looking at a time limit that will take us through the Trump inauguration

2:05:11 So they won't be able to post to the face bag until after the inauguration. So as a client of The Associated Press, which gives you these rights... Yep As part of the deal Yeah As opposed to people just steal Associated Press material? Yeah Uhh.. so they did it legitimately and then Face Bag Just cut them off just anyway yeah well And it was about I doubted They cut him off. They cut him off and it won't be reinstated until after the inauguration, hmm? Oh someone says in the chat room the ban was lifted that's possible that had already happened but still That is propaganda war and I like it Yeah, great cool as we have our own system to distribute our product

2:05:58 As opposed to using, I don't know pod bean or whatever. You know did you subscribe me to pod bean because I'm getting an email every week here's your stats on pod bean and we don't use pod bean? No i think somebody posted us on pod bean nice maybe possible um you can't get too much band you can't get too much bandwidth out of them before paying a lot of money no Back to Davo for a moment, because the most interesting guest was Jack Ma of Alibaba. And I don't know much about Jack Ma but I learned a lot about how Alibaba works there really not comparable to Amazon in their business model as you'll hear their business model is more data or as he says datas but Jack of course met with Trump

2:06:56 And of course, that's the first question there in Davo. And we all have to laugh as well when that happens where a billionaire businessman meets with another billionaire business man trying to make the world better but it's apparently a laughable fact. Let me start with this which is to say you just spent some time inside Trump Tower and went to go visit with Donald Trump our president-elect in the United States tell us about that meeting Well, it's a very productive meeting. Much better than I thought...than I expected What did you expect? Well, I heard- They can't stop laughing! What is wrong with these people?! It's like just the name Trump evokes laughter. It's very interesting Well, I heard a lot and watched all the news and heard a lot about him So when I go inside I saw anything that uh But his theory sort of

2:07:56 Open-minded listen what I talk so, I think I'm very happy about results and finally when he said he offered subject Let me walk you down. They seem he's very happy about the results we had Can I ask how does a meeting like that? Do you call him? Does he call you more or less? It's more for her No What it just what is that what is it that In this universe that we're listening to, these things are funny. Why is it funny? Huh?" So how did this meeting happen? Does he call you do you...

2:08:38 That is it's not funny. Let's start with that premise because it's not like a great gag It's not a joke, you know But there's some there's something about this like this guy that was on the media that couldn't get out of bed And he was completely so nervous laughter I guess nervous laughter perhaps. I don't think it was nervous laughter. I think it was just good and This, you know the men's club kind of laughter where you laugh at anything this guy says because you know that he hates Trump behind it all. Maybe that's what I'm thinking. It was Chuck Todd right? Who was asking the questions? No, no. There's another guy I recognize him. I don't know his name. It sounds like Chuck. It's not it's all right We'll continue. Oh you How does this take place well that's that's a question i'm asking myself Because uh some someday I got some requests from people say Jack do you want meeting the president elect I say

2:09:36 Is that true or not? Because I'm not ready for that. Because, I don't know what to talk about." And then a few days later, I got another request and several requests and then I saw one email which was from a friend who is very specific. So I thought about it. Yes maybe I should go have a talk and at least I think President-elect Donald Trump would be happy to hear what I want to talk about so I went. And what did you tell him? Talk about the small business, talk about agriculture products. Talk about the trade between China and the USA We especially focus on telling about how can we bring this small business in America sell them to China Do you hear what he's saying? By the way He says Chiner. He doesn't say China. He says Chiner just like Trump says it...Chiner

2:10:34 Did you notice that? No, I didn't but i'll pay attention. Yeah the quality is a little crappy but he definitely just saying China. Sell them to China through our network which can create a lot of jobs for them given some of the comments that Donald Trump has made about China being a currency manipulator did that come up during your meeting well I think first in America there's a freedom of speech right so He can say whatever he wants, and I respect that. But of course, we did not debate about China or US manipulation. We actually agreed on something—small business developing in the middle-west America helping the farmers there, small businesses exporting to China. So we all agreed.

2:11:23 But something that we do not discuss about the, you know, American job losing to China and Mexico. Okay? So he had a nice meeting with him sounds like yeah and then Jack Ma everybody who's met with Trump if you think about it there's all kinds of varying people they try to buttonhole them as they leave the elevator They've also they've had a good meeting So he gives good meaning, apparently. Yeah and Ma said...you know he listens! He's very open. Gee I don't know why didn't they run him out of town? And then Jack Ma gave us his analysis of our system the United States system how we are part of the global

2:12:20 community and what we, the choices we made our strategy over the past well let's say 40 to 50 years actually longer. Can I share with you my ideas? Please! Yeah...I think 30 years ago when i just graduated from universities I heard America had a wonderful strategy They outsource the manufacturer job, service jobs. They outsource the manufacturer to Mexico and China. Outsource the service job to India. There's a book called The World is Flat. Tom Friedman, colleague at the New York Times? And I think it's perfect strategy. You know that Americans said we just want to control the IP, we just want technology, we just want brand, leave the lower end of jobs for the world. Great strategy!

2:13:09 And second is that the American international companies made millions and millions of dollars from globalization. The top 10, top 100 companies in America. Past 30 years IBM, Cisco, Microsoft They made tons of money. The profit they made, much more than the four largest banks in China put together. China Mobile, China Unicom and whatever you name it, put together still these multinational companies made more money then so their market cap grew more than 100 times in past 30 years but where did the money go? This is what I'm curious because as a business people I always care about balance sheet Where's the money coming from and where does the money go

2:13:52 Past 30 years, the Americans had 13 wars spending $14.2 trillion dollars. The money going there... What if they spent a part of that money on building up the infrastructure? Helping the white collars and blue collars No matter how strategy good it is, you're supposed to spend money on your own people. Right? Not everybody can pass Harvard like me. We are not good at education right? We should spend money on those people who are not a good at schooling and the other money which I'm curious about when i was young I heard America's bad for

2:14:32 and Boeing, those big manufacturing companies. The last 10-20 years I heard about is Silicon Valley and Wall Street the money go to the wall street And what happened? Year 2008 The financial crisis wiped out $19.2 trillion U.S. dollars alone, they wiped out all the white collars and destroyed 34 million jobs globally So what if the money is not Wall Street? What if the money spent on a Middle East middleweb of the United States Developing the industry there that could be changed a lot so it's not people the other countries steal jobs from you guys It is your strategy

2:15:14 Yeah, exactly. We take the money and we go attack brown people who live in the sand instead of building up infrastructure. Yes. Well there's potholes on the road that right outside my house on the highway US Highway 80 It's an interstate highway with potholes all over the place. John C. DuBois, final clip and this is what I don't like about Jack Ma in fact to find this quite dangerous what he's doing he's building something called EWTP which is basically a network that will enable people

2:15:54 Connects with manufacturing sales, etc. That's pretty much what Alibaba does But there's something else they do and that is credit they do they have you by the way? They do a crappy job Oh Yeah, it's not that these know because you like you want to you know You're finishing your little podcast device when I come over the microphone They have they do the connections are terrible. You say never respond these companies are dumb Eric had a problem with it because he you know outsource the rings and some of these other things to Conclude some mugs to China, and they got screwed on a couple deals one get just stole the money Yeah, I left they don't do anything about that anyway. I'm sorry go now but it's

2:16:36 Yeah, of course there's fraud and the fake products which I didn't clip it but he actually went on to say that a lot of these fake products like the fake brand name bags and stuff like that. He says it is so good that sometimes the quality of the knockoffs are better than the original. And I agree with that! And he said we would buy knockoffs right off of Alibaba ourselves send them to the company they'd be like no that's one of ours even though it wasn't. That's just an interesting tip because you can get the same look and better quality, yeah it's theft but oh well... But he's come up with something with these micro loans and that's a part of the Alibaba system based upon your purchasing or your sales behavior through the system I guess a lot of Chinese must use it

2:17:28 They go through AI, he has a hands-off credit system that within three minutes they can determine if you're credit worthy for this $5,000 line of credit. And it's done through something called the Sesame Card. And these cards are kind of like a rating as to your credit score. It's very similar to what we have only this is run by One big commercial company and I think it's very dangerous if you listen how gleeful he talks about it We are updated company eight years ago, we Said to ourself Alibaba should not be an e-commerce company We should be update the company because we have the data from consumers with datas from the

2:18:07 the manufacture of data from logistic companies and transactions. But we think how we can make a data really beneficial to the society? What China needs is that, we have a lot of great people all in small business they are very credible but we don't have credit system for them so how can we use a credit rating system based on the datas we have giving everybody assessment rating system that is so powerful in the past four years because every individual, every small business if they have been using our services we give them a rating system. So we're giving loans in the past five years We've given 5 million business loans They only borrow $5,000 Three minutes! We can decide whether we should give you money how much I'm going to give within one second The money will be in your account

2:19:05 And zero people touch so we call it 3 1 0 and even today the sesame rating system become people dating The mother-in-law want to say hey, you want a date with my daughter show me your reading system of the Sesame card So it's so funny. We go do the People wanted to rent a car people on the rent a bicycle They will say show me your Sesame cards good because if they do not pay back If they do not fulfill, the ratings is going to go down and they can never rent a house. This is what we want to build up the system." And this is coming everywhere I guarantee you! This is what social media will be used for Let's see how many likes you have let's see what people say about you That's that's how credit ratings are going to be determined and maybe we'll all have a Sesame card God...I don't know I don't like that part about Jack Ma Well he's all jubilant about it Yeah..that's the problem

2:20:04 Yeah, I agree. All right. You want to hear this kind of like Davos on the...I don't believe this was at Davos but it was Theresa May? Ah yes! The big Brexit speech yeah. First we can listen if you want to listen a little bit back and forth with Angus Robertson the head of Scotland asking a question that is kind of mean-spirited or you want to hear Theresa in her little speech. Let's go with the speech. Yeah, let's hear it. This is Theresa May on Brexit on PBS I listened to it last night when I was in bed and he was so boring British Prime Minister Theresa may declared today that her government wants a clean break from the European Union may light out her thinking as Britain gets ready to negotiate terms for leaving the EU

2:21:02 She confirmed it means an end to Britain's role in Europe single market and to travel without passports. But she also issued a warning, I know there are some voices calling for a punitive deal that punishes Britain and discourages other countries from taking the same path that would be an act of calamitous self-harm for the countries of Europe And it would not be the act of a friend Britain would not, indeed we could not accept such an approach. I'd like to play the Euronews response from Brussels to her speech. British Prime Minister Theresa May... Sorry sorry sorry yeah? I was gonna say this seemed like a veiled threat

2:21:48 In what regard? She says that we're not going to put up with anybody messing with us because we're doing this. Yeah, and before you play your clip which you should play You should also listen to the second little gotcha in this thing Which I thought was just like outrageous But this is the Parliament vote on the final deal which actually follow what she just said with this May also promise that parliament will be able to vote on the final deal likely in 2019 What?! Yeah, that's how long it will take for the negotiation. That's not even... No! That's before the negotiation. That's just to say okay let's do it. What?! Yes! No! Yes! Two years before they even vote?

2:22:33 Let's get down and we're gonna keep talking about this two years after article 50. Oh my goodness Well, let's yes and yeah I think you're right actually here's the douchebags in Brussels British Prime Minister Theresa May has been accused of wanting to cherry-pick European Union benefits in her speech setting out her brexit priorities While she stressed Britain will quit the EU single market She also said she'd seek a separate trade agreement The EU's Brexit negotiator was unimpressed We shall never accept a situation in which it is better to be outside the European Union, outside the single market than to be a member of the European Union. If you want the advantages of a single market and customs union then you have also take obligations. We need fair agreement and certainly not under threat

2:23:24 Some political leaders in the EU may have given a lukewarm reception to May's speech, but in London her Brexit minister David Davis said his job was to persuade Europe that a reciprocal deal would be best. So our approach is not about cherry picking but at reaching a deal which fits the aims of both sides We understand the EU wants to preserve its four freedoms and to chart its own course. Pretty much every country in the world that's not subject to sanctions has access to the single market, we will have access to a single market The question this is about is the terms The Brexit talks are expected to be one of the most complicated negotiations in post-World War II European history. Brussels has described May's aim of wrapping them up in two years as ambitious. See, here they say talking about wrapping it up in two years which would... But you heard the last word! It's ambitious. Yeah why is that? Is that so hard?!

2:24:23 Actually, I guess so. If you look at all the treaties and everything that's been signed it goes back to 1950 with the European Atomic...was it the atomic energy union? I think was did start off that way. I don't remember. I mean this gets retold a number of times So many treaties yeah It's great for lawyers. It's fantastic Well here we go let's go to Parliament and play Mae versus Angus of part one. I got it. Mr Robertson, shortly after the Prime Minister confirmed that she wants to take the UK out of the single European market, The Scottish Parliament voted by a large cross-party majority to remain in the single European market just as a large majority people in Scotland voted to remain in the European Union. The Prime Minister has said

2:25:29 The Prime Minister said that Scotland is an equal partner in the United Kingdom. Does she still believe this is true or is she just stringing the people of Scotland along? I might refer the right honourable gentleman to my speech yesterday where i reiterated my commitment to be working with the devolved administrations, to ensure that their voices heard and that their interests are taken into account as we proceed along this path of negotiating our exit from the European Union. Also, I specifically reference the Scotland plan. I understand the Welsh Government will be producing a plan for Wales for us to look at too That Scotland Plan will be being considered by the JMC on European negotiations tomorrow i believe we'll be looking at it seriously and working with the Scottish government on the proposals they bring forward. Mr Robertson? Scotland's leading economic forecaster says and I quote that real wages will fall

2:26:25 They don't like experts. Tories jeering and cheering when the forecast for people's income is it is likely to drop by £2,000 and that 80,000 people may lose their jobs in Scotland as a result of the hard Tory Brexit plan of the Prime Minister Does the Prime Minister believe that this is a price worth paying for her little Britain Brexit? Her little Britain Brexit. Yeah, little Britain Brexit. Angus too? You want to play the second one? Yeah you can play it the same way. This is her answer and pretty much the same then she kind of does the put down line you have to do traditionally at the end in a little spiel

2:27:27 for her little Britain, Brexit. I repeat what i said earlier we will be working to ensure that we get the best possible deal in terms of access to the single market and continuing to cooperate in partnership with member states of the remaining 27 member states at the European Union but the right honourable gentleman once again talks about the possibility of negative impact on Scotland if Scotland were not part of the single market. His party is dedicated to taking Scotland out of the single market by taking it out for the United Kingdom." Richard! I wish it was like that here in States, that's so fun the way they do that. It is fun. I like it. The question comes to mind kind

2:28:19 What are they doing different in the EU and they're running it out of Brussels, and you talked about this situation with you when your inability to get your passport approved to go to Europe on last show. And everybody was afraid. How are they...what are they doing differently? Because if you look at the UK The UK has, it's really what four kingdoms. It's got Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland and then England. And so you have these four groups they all speak English and they can't get along with each other. You take good transfer that to the EU where you have your 26 countries or 27 and they all speak different languages

2:29:08 They never got along with each other historically ever, much the same way the Scots and the English never got along with each other. But that seems to be working better in terms of whatever system they have overseeing the whole thing which is nothing close to a democracy. It's a form of bureaucratic dictatorship for all practical purposes run out of Brussels. Based on lies that sovereignty would remain But once you have people's money, once you have the banks we have the fiscal union they got the banks under control. That's it that's it

2:29:49 Um, we gotta move along because we're running long today. I don't want to be too long... I do need to play just a little bit of uh- Well here's the jingle. Now this is not necessarily fake news but it is so incorrect that I might as well classify it on such on Fox I told you many weeks ago that the Clinton Global Initiative, months ago actually. The Clinton Global Initiative is shutting down and out of Bill Clinton's own mouth. Yeah, the sponsors are going to know they've got other things to do yes we know where the money is going it's going to Obama's My Brother's Keeper Foundation which I think at this point has about 200 million dollars committed that's why he's staying in Washington and this was well known that this was going to happen but somehow Fox has convoluted this The Clinton Global Initiative into The Clinton Foundation and they come up with this report which is really crap! We begin with

2:30:46 Even with the controversial Clinton Global Initiative, remember that? Well they're closing the doors for good. This comes after Hillary Clinton's crushing loss in the presidential election this November and months after WikiLeaks uncovered emails that reportedly showed corrupt management helping donors get political access rather than focusing on charitable work around the world. Employee layoffs take effect in April. Fact check false. Yeah, that's incorrect! It was not about the Clinton Global Initiative, it was about the Clinton Foundation. And I think that what you'll see now in these urban myths like Assad used chemical weapons which has been disproven... Oh they shut it down! People will actually believe that and even crazier. Well they're already believing it.

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2:40:39 How do you know? Have you ever done shrooms?" I don't talk about things like that. Okay, thank you all so much for your support of our program the best podcast in the universe $50 or more of course under 50 is usually for reasons of anonymity but we have a tonne of great subscriptions that you can contribute to the program and please keep all the artwork, the jingles, the clips, the information. Keep it coming! That is why it works true participation media value for value and they have another show coming up on Sunday. Devorac.org slash N A It's your birthday, birthday I'm so happy

2:41:16 And today we congratulate Sir Herb Lamb celebrating on the 21st of January, Dee Carother says happy birthday to Keith Carlisle he celebrated on the 16th and Audrey Symes has happy birthday to love her life. Well now a douchebag Charlie Serpa he celebrated yesterday Happy Birthday from all you buddies here at The Best Podcast in the Universe! And no nights... No nights John We have no nights, no nothing I have a question for you though Or actually more an observation As we move into the Depression era, this is a setup for your book of course. Yes as we move into the depression era We have depression food with obviously we have the bugs we have mac and cheese But I've noticed something else that's been happening in Austin And whether you make an appointment For to get your hair cut whether you make an appointment at arrest reservation at a restaurant more and more

2:42:12 Companies are saying, yeah I need your credit card as a deposit. When did this become trend? Well i don't know that this is going on here at all I know there are a minimum number of restaurants that require this, but they're very high-end and you're expected to drop like $300 ahead at least. These are just regular restaurants. But regular restaurants... And hairdressers! Hairdresser's it's not..I'm telling you there's nothing like that. This is a local phenomenon. And Christina went to get her claws and paws, you know, the manicure

2:42:54 Credit card deposit in Europe right here when she was here. Okay, just again as a local phenomenon You got some crooks there that are taking advantage of these people or goofballs that are just making reservations Just to kill their business well I'd like to know if any other be a business war go maybe maybe other people have this in their town I don't know um I watched the game and with Dallas. Holy crap, I'm glad I watched that game! Isn't it a great game? Oh my god at the end that was fantastic! Yes Aaron Rodgers is kick-ass It was very exciting game and I liked that a lot And since we only have four teams left We have the New England Patriots versus The Steelers and then we have Green Bay Packers versus The Atlanta Falcons

2:43:43 I think it is time for us to determine who will be the winner of the Super Bowl based upon no agenda process of elimination. Geopolitical? Geopolitical, yes. I think i know okay because I have no clue well and you are better at this than I am You have beaten me on a head-to-head a couple of times so from a geopolitical standpoint excuse me uh we I know what the end has to be It has to be The Steelers versus the Packers. And the reason for that is both Pittsburgh and Wisconsin, Green Bay were incredibly supportive of Trump they flipped and I'm going to say the Green Bay Packers take it based on this

2:44:29 Well, if the Green Bay Packers can manage to get past Atlanta which is not a sure thing by any means because Atlanta's better team. I think they could because... You're basing it on skill! I'm basing it on being rigged. They have the excuse that because here's the they have been running a I have to give you this. They've been running a kind of What do you call it? Not a litany but a Storyline, they've been running this storyline on Aaron Rodgers. He's come on in the second half This is how many games in a row they won he's the best thrower ever He's good, you know very accurate pass or his everybody likes him. It looks a little like Paul Ryan and

2:45:14 It's one thing after another. And so they've been running this storyline, they have not been running storylines on anybody else except Dallas and Dallas was beaten by this guy. Yeah. And so I think you might be onto something as a possibility when let's put it this way. I wouldn't be stunned if that happened right? But who was the who was the catcher who caught that pass and kept it in bounds I think it's Cook or is one of their... Oh man, that was great. That was a pretty phenomenal yeah. A follow-up from our two to the head category and i looked it up it was October 2014 that we played a series of clips from Udo Ulf Kotte

2:46:02 Sometimes the intelligence agencies, they come to your office and want you to write an article. I give you another example not from strange other journalists from me myself a German foreign intelligence Bundesnachrichtendienst it is just a sister organization of the Central Intelligence Agency it was founded by the American Intelligence Agency so one day The BND, this German foreign intelligence agency came to my office at the Frankfurt Allgemeine. And they wanted me to write an article about Libya and about Colonel Muammar Gaddafi I had absolutely no secret information

2:46:47 regarding Colonel Muammar Gaddafi and Libya. But they gave me all these secret informations, and they just wanted me to write—to sign the article with my name. I did that But it was an article that was published in the Frankfurter Allgemeine, that originally came from the Bundesnachrichtendienst. From the German Foreign Intelligence Agency. So do you really think this is journalism? Intelligence agencies writing articles? By coincidence I think two or three shows ago you sent me an email saying hey this is good let's talk about these guys we lead and talking about media and how corrupt they are

2:47:29 This guy died. He's dead. What? Yeah, a few days before his 57th birthday heart attack. Mm-hmm he was probably told not to mention any of this Of course he was told not to mention any of that and heart attack heart failure actually they say heart failure yeah Bill Prussic acid in the face 57 years old Beautiful. I also heard that Roger Stone is planning... Yeah, all you out there are gonna use this material. Yes! You have to if they tell you shut up, I guess you gotta shut up. Yeah certainly avoid small aviation and all that stuff. Hot tubs. And hot tubs. One quickie just a funny little entremont This was a question that was asked during Janet Yellen our chair of the Fed, The Federal Reserve

2:48:22 by one of the journalists in the room and I just, uh...I think i fell over when they heard this. It's my proud duty to convey the questions that have been handed My proud duty to ask you the questions that have been handed? Ask this! Just ask it Oh man Yeah, this is the modern world we live in We have... time is short. We're almost near the 10 minute warning. I got a bunch of stuff, I can push this off because it's really good. I'd like to do tech news on Sunday if you don't mind? Why not do tech news on Sunday? You want to do tech news on Sunday or you want to...? Because I have this Samantha Power stuff that i could move forward. Let me see if I've been... okay and I have some well the funny clips from

2:49:12 confirmation hearings we can do on Sunday. That'll stay good, there's so much material that almost no one has what we have but some very funny stuff. Okay let's do some tech news! Alright, John. So we started off the day an hour late because of this is not really as much tech news as it is tech complaining Well let me start start this off by with last night actually two days ago a your pal and my pal Andrew Horowitz said hey I'd really love to try streaming

2:49:57 DH unplugged on Tuesday when you guys record it. So okay, no problem I'll set you up." so i set him up and talked to Void Zero said, and Void said well we can set it all up for him but just give me your credentials log in and then uh... You can test it out see if you like it. Uh..so I set it up with him over the phone and say okay now connect and it should connect to serve and he couldn't connect. Like that's very odd and I'm doing this over the phone So I said, well let me try. And I can't connect and of course I've changed nothing in my setup that I know of. I've rebooted but haven't done anything else and I can't connect! Now it's like 1am and void zero and I ping him he's coming in saying look man is too late for you we'll do it tomorrow so yesterday for almost five hours we were trying to figure this out

2:50:44 And here's the crazy... So essentially what my computer has to go through a port, has to connect to our streaming server and then initiate. Then you send the stream and it would not connect now I could tell net into the port and we were using TCP dump to see if just anything showed up and I would tell that in no problem. The same port with shoutcast I couldn't even get it to register TCP dump on my own computer. In other words, I was trying to start a stream and with software that is available and approved as far as I know... It's in the App Store so you know it's allowed to run within the Apple security environment which is where it gets kind of weird but you couldn't..it was not....the program was not sending packets even to my Ethernet card

2:51:41 So, and we've tried every...we're tunneling through SSH and he keeps saying it must be your Mac. You know that come on man I didn't upgrade the last system update was December 30th well turns out that Apple has decided and not really mentioned that they are refusing anything that uses HTTP 0 dot 9 and they're actually sandboxing it And I don't know when they snuck this in because it didn't happen to me after the December 30 update. But Shoutcast specifically uses HTTP 0.9 This is interesting because Horowitz also uses a Mac Well, he would know He wouldn't know It gets more interesting Because he was using a Windows machine To do that and I think Windows has now also sandboxed 0.9 but it's pretty much not even mentioned Why?

2:52:39 I guess they don't think it's important. Now to be honest, the Shoutcast protocol is old IceCast is kind of where you want it to be these days. The software that I'm using that I like using only supports Shoutcasts But I don't think they ever thought about that. They said, ah 0.9 screw it It has actually affected people in the reverse if you're using Safari for instance and you want to listen to a shoutcast stream You can't get it in for the same reason you cannot listen to a shout cast stream It has to be ice cast and this is just completely undocumented Huh? Yeah, huh indeed

2:53:21 I put a couple of links in the show notes if people want to take a look and see exactly what happened. 89 or 6 dot no agenda notes calm, and then this morning Every morning before the show I reboot the router So before this morning though before this morning you've already wasted five six seven hours God knows how much time yeah? Okay, just to show you how much time you have to use to make anything work. And boy were we happy when we figured it out! Like holy crap I mean that was an insane...I mean checking firewalls all kinds of stuff then this morning reboot my cable modem I reboot the computer and

2:54:02 For routing internally in the Mac, I use a great product called Loopback which allows you to create virtual devices and that's actually how i currently string everything together to make it work. And Apple is pretty good, macOS with their core audio but I did not know that this loop back product from Rogue Amiga had install automatic updates on because I've never looked at that And so I'm like, well something's wrong. I open up loopback. Oh yeah you need to update it won't work until you've updated and by the way You can't update because Skype is using it and your audio system is using it So I changed that and then we just couldn't get it to work. It spent another hour

2:54:47 Um, before I finally had everything updated properly and you know, I don't mind updates. But this doing stuff without telling people is bull crap man. This bull crap. Which reminds me of a George Morrow story. Who's George Morrow? George Morrow was pretty famous by industry pioneer who uh, was an engineer in the valley that had more old designs and he did, it was during the 80 era. Z80 era he was big shot. And a nice guy very funny who's also outspoken and who is a character

2:55:24 And he used to produce all kinds of different boards and computer systems. And he would always discuss these boards, in other words like an IO board or a disc controller that I think they did one for the big eight inch drives there was a disc controller they made. He always talked about this idea of upgrading anything that has been on the market too long And he believing and he wouldn't do it, I mean because you said that you can patch a lot of these boards. There's usually simple fixes but there are some companies that would do this constantly to try to perfect the board. He says the problem was always with the users of these products who would invariably within very short time frame and with kind of group thinking

2:56:12 design and use workarounds. And he says once the workarounds were like all over the place, you really had to leave the board alone because once you changed anything, the work around would all stop working and sometimes be very destructive. And then trying to reverse engineering is the thing that drives me crazy! If you don't know what changed, workarounds are stuff you put it in place. You forget about it." Yes and he was a big believer in minimizing interfering with the work arounds because the work arounds always worked! And they were passed around people knew what they were and oh yeah well that has a bug and you have to do this...and once these things are in place the thing works like a champ

2:56:59 But a lot of companies would, yeah let's change it. You know what I'm saying? Nothing worked. Well i'll tell you once the podcast studio is done and God willing hoping maybe February now for the Kickstarter and that you know we're also going to bundle uh official John C Dvorak microphone It'll be beautiful because then every all of that is taken off of the computer. The only thing you use the computer for is just to play stuff if you want, if you want a place... You know it's all functions are hard-coded in one box. Beautiful! This is driving me nuts and I'm gonna switch to Linux cuz Apple has lost its way. I really wanted the new PowerBook or the MacBook Pro. I'm sorry yeah no way here only bad things about it only bad things

2:57:50 Yeah, I haven't heard anything good either. It's just sad they don't care about their customers They really don't care about the customers anymore. I think that the way they see it yeah exactly all right and Anything else for the tech news? No, I think we're got we're good with Tech News. All right. Let's close it off iPhone schmoy phone Less than 10 minutes to go. Okay? Okay! Well, with less than 10 minutes I have one clip and then we can... You can get your... Now we're good. Yeah. One clip more. I want to play this one. This is just to keep everybody up-to-date with the never ch— or the never —the ever changing story about the Fort Lauderdale shooter now apparently he didn't have people talking to him but he is looking at ISIS stuff so I don't know

2:58:38 In a Florida courtroom today, the suspect in the deadly shooting rampage at the Fort Lauderdale Airport was ordered to remain behind bars until trial. During the hearing prosecutors said Esteban Santiago gave conflicting explanations as to his motive The FBI says Santiago first claimed that government was controlling his mind but later said he was inspired by ISIS-linked chat rooms and websites And they arrested his wife No, no. That's the wife they arrested is the guy who was the Orlando nightclub shooter Oh I'm sorry this is Fort Lauderdale yes crap I'm sorry Yeah that whole thing is very odd Yes

2:59:24 This is all the government's trying to make me watch Isis videos and now the story is all I've been watching Isis videos The government hasn't said anything about this Which makes me think you know just the opposite, okay? I'm gonna spend a little bit of time in the next few days looking through the CIA document dumb 12 million declassified documents Please do I like I knew about this. I saw it my god Is there going to be a search engine we can use? I hope so. Like the WikiLeaks front end or something that might work... Here's the two stories I pulled out, CIA admits it carried out secret psychic experiments on Uri Geller for those of you too young to remember. Yeah, I saw that one too. Uri Geller was a guy who could bend spoons with his mind. Yeah he was a fake.

3:00:07 And it was also Operation Artichoke, which was another mind control project. Not unlike MKUltra I had not heard of Artichoke? I have! You have? Yeah yeah...I don't know the details but i've heard of it for sure right so i'll be i'll look at that and i'll see if i can come up with uh i come up with anything good and let me see yeah so for sunday i'll definitely a number of I think very entertaining clips from the confirmation hearings which just shows you that... two universes. It's right there and it's right in our government

3:00:55 Okay, when is like you have the Samantha power interview that was done as she's leaving yeah and again It's a two-universe thing I believe with some crazy stuff in there That is a four parter that it. I think everyone will be entertained by because very deconstructed. I like me. I like it I like it. I'm okay When does the next game? I should be looking at oh Well, there's these games that you talked about are being played this weekend. And so this weekend you want to There's two games obviously the ones you mentioned yeah to see if your if your if these numbers come out or correctly okie-dokie We'll see I think a great Super Bowl. I think everybody would love to see the Steelers play the Packers That's why they're gonna do it

3:01:43 Coming to you from the Crackpot Condo here in downtown Austin, Tejas. The skyscraper FEMA Region 6 on the maps In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where this will be a respite from the rainstorms It's actually sunny out right now and expect that storms return tomorrow and drought is long since over A.S.? I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda Remember us at dvorak dot org slash N-A Adios, mofos! When Adam needs to make an example of some typical slaves He just reads the comments On their Facebook page Gonna read Faceback Gonna lose some brain cells Gonna read Faceback Gonna read comments from shills

3:02:39 Wayne Adams needs to make an example of some typical slaves. He just reads the comments on their Facebook page, gonna read Faceback, gonna lose some brain cells, gonna read Faceback, read comments from shills Hey! Hey, listen. You're in my house. Hey! Come on guys! Shame on you. Hey! Okay... I'm up in the house. Breakin' the booth!

3:03:26 Thanks, Obama. You did not think it was a good idea. Um, you said when you mixed, you know that when you mix arrows, when you mix affection for one another that could be manifested sexually I don't care if you go... There are reports suggesting... Yeah it has to be four, it has to be four, it couldn't be three and four... Samantha Lee's a comedian! about what you said about 4x4s for you will not find where this has worked never hasn't worked. You said the idea of one another that could be manifested sexually I don't care if about, but, about, what he wrote this up XFAM rules! I wanna back this up! Those who are in showers This is an alternative universe manifested sexually i dont care one another that could be manifested sexualy i dont care if u go

3:04:21 I don't care if you go anywhere in history, you will not find where it could be manifested sexually. Of course we could. Could we find a few who could do the pull-ups? Of course, that's not the point. Of course you could. Could we find a few who could do... Of course we could. Could we find... Well let's put this aside! ...a few who could do... Of course we could. It just comes out of our mouth. You know what?! This is an ultra loud shoutout!

3:05:05 Who could do the pull-ups? Of course we could. That's not the point Let's put that aside. Troll people on Twitter! Let's put that aside, troll people on Twitter Find a few... Four times. This is fake news We won't be trapped in the morning I wanna talk for a second about an alternative universe

3:05:49 This is an alternative universe and he got his victory from cheating. An alternative universe... I want to talk for a second about... This is an alternative universe, and he got his victory from cheating. Always a pleasure! You can take that to the bank

3:06:32 Adios, mofo.