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00:00 Directors, directors, directors. Adam Curry John C Devorah It's Thursday September 22nd 2016 this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 862 This is no agenda Bringing back the art of reporting from the crowd and broadcasting live from the capital, The Drone Star State here in Austin Tejas FEMA Region 6 In The Morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where i don't see much enthusiasm for my part but i see a lot of traffic. I am John C DeVore. It's Crackpot & Buzzkill! In The Morning!

00:38 Well, I don't have the enthusiasm you have. You're all...you're pumped up today! Yeah, I'm always enthusiastic Look at my life. Look at my life This is way up there. No no look at my life. You lie. Okay, I get the joke There's no reason for enthusiasm Okay I was up late last night of course Uh okay why? I was watching the live coverage does it get any better Live coverage of riots in Charlotte Oh sure, you know I'm glad you did that because i paid zero attention to the Charlotte thing. Oh it oh wow this is very interesting um in order to uh really make the most of it all three cable news networks were live on the street they had guys on the street it was fantastic there was a

01:25 I watched a lot of CNN. MSNBC was okay, but Fox didn't have it. But CNN really did a very good job with a lot of funny bits as one reporter... You know some guy he's reporting, this guy comes over and body checks him to the ground? Yes! I did see that. I can't say anything else about it. That was all over the place. Let me see what do we have here… I have, okay some...I have to say that my favorite piece was... Why don't you give a little background around this for people who might be in Germany for example. That don't know what your talking about? So we had another police shooting of the black American and immediately it was unarmed, this makes no sense, cops are killing everybody

02:21 without any information really about what was going on. And there were so many different shootings, it's like it was almost confusing where... What happened? Where was it? Um and everyone just got really super pissed off in uh in Charlotte North Carolina and I mean it's black white all everything all mixed through each other. Everyone was pissed off Although I did know it is involved. Well, this I wanted to exactly took the words out of my mouth black women really at the front line and They all took its very interesting when you look at this It's almost as everybody wants their stance in front of the police You know the front of the riot right police To be kind of like the life photo of the year And I mean everybody's got some kind of pose some kind of

03:08 thing going on. It was, I don't know... Everybody's filming everybody else? Yeah! No it's out of control! Ah yeah and of course the sad thing is we really don't know exactly what happened so this may all be-I mean it doesn't mean that people aren't pissed off that still you know I understand but uh you just can't go out and just riot the whole time and it was rioting this time Big time. And you know, smashing and looting came to that eventually but the cops were using tons of tear gas they were using... what do you call it?

03:49 flash bangs they were using. Oh, that's actually interesting I was watching a little bit of Fox here's Megan Kelly had a guy out on the street and here is his report. There are explosions of all varieties there's tear gas canisters being fired there's also very loud concussion grenades and flash bang grenades which make a huge flash in allowed explosion designed to chase the crowd back which certainly it has been effective. Now did you hear what he said how we corrected himself? Yeah, plenty. Oh no just tell me oh he said the flash bangs was used to terror I mean to push the crowd back No, they're meant to terrorize you got it right the first time

04:30 Terrorizing people. So Anderson Cooper had a pretty good bit on and it would just keep going back to this one guy live down in the street, and I just figured we'd listen to that for a moment because it kind of got me to itch a little bit. Okay let me bring Boris here. Hey Anderson, they just started shooting tear gas. The crowd of people broke up and we are running from the scene so there were agitators that were getting pulled in by police and a couple people started sitting down but uh police grabbed one and that's when everything just went out of control you can see a police you can see police are trying to

05:10 control the situation but there's tear gas everywhere people started launching the tear gas back at the police oh man anyway Anderson so reinforcements are in you can tell police are trying to grab people and bring them behind the line but again things escalating very quickly here it comes against you. So there were two lines of SWAT teams lined up by the Omni Hotel hey watch out! There is gas on you get out of There are more cans of tear gas getting thrown into the street right now, Anderson. We're trying to get out of the way so there were two lines... Ah my eyes! Anderson I gotta send it back to you.

05:55 This reminds me of the old, yeah. I'm sorry. The first Iraq war. Oh yeah! CNN had all these guys dodging bullets... Peter Arnett's Peter Arnett? Peter Arnett was just one of many. Hey but i love doing this and and this was a more show than I think people realize and I can back that up in a couple of ways because it's a show you know we've got oh we've got something going on it's a great show now we of course are good at that obviously If you want to give it a shot. Give what a shot? Do our own thing? Yeah. You need to toss it to me, baby! We need some music or we need some sound effects that you have back at... I have sound effects. I don't have music. He's on the scene in Charlotte and I think he is with us right now Adam. John, can you hear me?! Yes! Can I hear you?

06:56 and there's all kinds of flashbangs. And this thing's... John, can you hear me? It's really bad here! Oh no! We're getting out the way! I'm gonna send it back to you, Johnny! Wow Adam be safe Be safe. One of our producers was watching a live stream of, I can't remember which station it was and he... so when they cut the TV feed the live stream kept going and in fact you'll hear on on the TV version this clip there was only video no audio however

07:44 Here we go. However, our producer clipped this and uh... Just listen to it and uh... just listen to it. Again um so that cleared out the group of protesters from the street right? We don't know what that was if that was a flashbang or if that was more flashbangs more tear gas Let's jus- let's just take a listen here to what's going on Okay, now what you... It's a little hard to hear but you're gonna hear his producer talk to him and the producers going to say okay we've cut it's only video the mics are dead and then of course the recording continues.

08:31 Did you hear the producer? Yeah, dude that was great. It literally blew up right over your shoulder awesome That was great. Dude, literally it blew up right over your shoulder. Fucking amazing dude! It was great television. I mean that's how they're thinking They don't give a shit about what's going on You'd be doing the same thing Well in fact we're not even on the scene and we are doing the same thing Exactly Which always begs the question why do you bother going to remote locations? Just fake the whole thing Yeah

09:18 I think more and more is happening of that in that regard, but well yeah And of course a screen string screen technology is too good. Well especially because it's blue screen now I Discounted the first time they drop blue screens no nobody is I'm sorry green screen are you right? But I discounted the original video that was posted and sent to me 100 times This is ah look at Hillary's on green screen She's not really there And if you look closely in the cell phones, but I saw a new one. Oh there's OK well let's give people some background on this. This is a me kind of I wouldn't call it a meme meme but is kind of like a meme It's a videos going around showing that or

10:02 hoping to convince you that, and it's possible that some of Hillary speeches are staged. There is nobody there and then they put a phony audience in front of it and they just...it's all things pieced together. Now until they start normally in these situations when you see this used to be done a lot with photos You'd see duplication people in the audience I have yet to see anything like that, to actually prove this. All they've done so far is show close-ups of phone screens. There's a new one which makes no sense to play because the audio gives you no clues and it's from a different speech and Hillary is in front of a flag

10:42 And all of a sudden she becomes digitally distorted while the flag does not. In fact, at one point for couple frames she completely disappears from the shot and then she's back. Could it be doctored? It could be but I look at the original video footage and there it is or at least online original video footage from ABC. You pull it from an ABC site? Yeah yeah Yeah, it's really short. Better than the ones I've seen. Listen we didn't even bring it up and like okay fine you know? It's also...

11:18 Another thing, the crazy eyes video from Hillary. Let me tell you exactly what that is. I love that crazy eye! This really bothers me that people don't understand this is what happens when you are reading teleprompter she has a screen on the right screen on the left and a big screen at the back of the room and she's turning her head but she's continuing to read That's the only reason...I mean she may have issues but that crazy eye look? That is just Teleprompters too far apart, you know it's not exactly done well and that's all it is. Did you see anything different? Well I had po- I retweeted one of them which I thought was the best one which was the... Oh! It's not that they're great there's no doubt about it No they're fantastic Her eyeball going every wich way Uh.. Well there were a couple photos still photos and those are easy to doctor I mean yeah I can do that kind of work

10:42 And all of a sudden she becomes digitally distorted while the flag does not. In fact, at one point for couple frames she completely disappears from the shot and then she's back. Could it be doctored? It could be but I look at the original video footage and there it is or at least online original video footage from ABC. You pull it from an ABC site? Yeah yeah Yeah, it's really short. Better than the ones I've seen. Listen we didn't even bring it up and like okay fine you know? It's also...

11:18 Another thing, the crazy eyes video from Hillary. Let me tell you exactly what that is. I love that crazy eye! This really bothers me that people don't understand this is what happens when you are reading teleprompter she has a screen on the right screen on the left and a big screen at the back of the room and she's turning her head but she's continuing to read That's the only reason...I mean she may have issues but that crazy eye look? That is just Teleprompters too far apart, you know it's not exactly done well and that's all it is. Did you see anything different? Well I had po- I retweeted one of them which I thought was the best one which was the... Oh! It's not that they're great there's no doubt about it No they're fantastic Her eyeball going every wich way Uh.. Well there were a couple photos still photos and those are easy to doctor I mean yeah I can do that kind of work

12:09 But the ones I've noticed that were kind of disturbing to me and didn't show their eyeballs going every which way, but it's just that her eyeballs themselves look like she has some weird contacts on or something. Oh yeah? Yeah! It made her eyeballs look unusual Well she is not wearing glasses so maybe she has some special kind of contacts even with the Polaroid stuff in there Hmm so I did get a couple other you want to go into like election stuff. You want to talk about the bomber? Well, I don't have that much on the bomber. Oh, I got some stuff on the bomber. I do have one clip of the bomber. The election stuff... Today's show for me is going to be the biggest show in this America and also I listened to the hearings about Mylan drugs because they were extremely entertaining and very funny. And I would actually be surprised

13:04 I mean that woman would have to be a very cold-blooded creep. Let me explain what that is, there was a hearing or there were number of hearings this is the Mylan CEO the woman who has been running Mylan they make EpiPens which it was been in big controversy Of course they're being singled out and I was doing some other things I was listening in the background and...I don't know what clips you have but what got me was the you know people like Eleanor Holmes and What's what's the grumpy old ass his name? Well, let me think yeah

13:45 you know, really hammering like well how much profit does that make? How much profit... it's not that simple to say this product makes exactly that much profit and then how do you justify your salary?! It's like come on people. All I'm hearing is and i totally agree that the pharmaceutical industry is messed up and we have a lot of problems But this was just grandstanding making this woman look shitty. Well, Eleanor Holmes I mean give me a break what do you expect from her? She's no good! She doesn't even she's not even allowed to vote yes she's allowed to vote...she got a big mouth for someone who's not allowed to vote i met her remember i met her when uh that uh that anti kind of climate movie came out and i watched it in dc at the screening and it turned out to be more like a pro-Obamacare thing well yeah but she was there yeah she's creepy

14:36 I was going to say that I would be stunned if the stunned if this woman wasn't in tears after this event because they just I'm gonna say it hammered her. They did or better I Wasn't ready for you well, I gave you the little pre Q. I know That's the short one yeah This woman

15:14 Okay, let's go. I got a bunch of these clips and I expect okay never mind. I'm not gonna start Let's go with the EpiPen and let's see we get the this is the one I thought it was the best. There's a doctor, representative of Tennessee and he is a doctor and this little EpiPen Tennessee doc if you had to listen to just one guy this would be the one. ... which is we took the unprecedented step of putting the generic in to sidestep that and being able to lower the cost... You're doing everyone a favor by charging three times what your acquired drug for as a generic. Your trying to make us feel good about that? I just don't! And I'm not buying your argument

15:54 Do you have a guilty conscience about any of this? Over that period of time, putting it in public places giving free 700 thousand free EpiPens to 66 thousand schools and wanting to get it into all the public schools across America. Well if it cost 20 bucks they could afford to buy their own you wouldn't have to give them to them but instead you chose to jack the prices up and then somehow make everyone want to feel good abou you by saying how much you do. Bottom line is, you took a very inexpensive drug and you profited handsomely off it and I don't have a problem like a lot of my colleagues that you can make money in in a free market enterprise but what I do have a problem with as a physician when you take drugs that are life-saving drugs and people don't have a choice they can't go to a different department store to get their tie they have to have that drug because

16:41 a mother would cut off her right arm to get that dose of drug, you decided to charge 600 bucks instead of cutting off your arm. And now you're saying you're dropping it to 300 and that should make us all feel better when in fact that's probably about 10 times what the drug should cost. I understand you've got to make some money but can really sit there with a clear conscience today and say that is okay? You just decided because you are such a good company to cut the price from $600 to $300? Is that your testimony?" Congressman, we want everyone who needs an EpiPen to have an EpiPen and we're going to continue to lower the price so they can afford it. Are you gonna lower the price other people can afford? We believe that all... Oh man! How do you sleep at night?! I mean i heard it all. It was great. Well let's get-I only had three of these clips because these are what I thought were the best but yeah just but also was

17:30 I mean, I understand the grandstanding. But really this was a pretty like an un-American conversation that was taking place here. They're pretty much saying you should not make... It was like Noodle Boy! You know? You should not...you can't just make profit. NO! You can have a profitable company. And she made the mistake of not talking about marketing cost because these guys are like grocery store businessmen Well, you know if you buy it for 50...if you make it for $50 and sell it for 600. I watched the whole hearing and there was only some of that. And it was just...and I think Eleanor Holmes... She did it yeah One of the worst but she doesn't count Okay There were a couple other guys and they're generally Democrats although the Republicans butt-slammed her too

18:20 It wasn't an issue of just making money, it was an issue of a monopoly practice. Which is true, which is true, of course. And that's actually foreboding in the capitalist system and so... Exactly! But I didn't hear anyone really focus on that. But again they were taking advantage of the situation because they had a monopoly status. In fact one guy, one of the Democrats who was giving it to her pulled at Colombo Oh, he did it like one more thing. Yeah okay he's slamming her and slamming her and then he says well let me go to the because the FDA guy was there who was useless He had nothing to say just a bonehead And so he's gonna go to the FDA guy then he turns back I watched as soon as he did it It was like wow this is very Columbo-esque

19:14 He kind of condemns her amongst her peers in a very strange way. And I think actually that this, this is the EpiPen Boston guy who makes the argument that she's doing everyone a favor with his testimony. Just because you've gone up $200 on the overall price and top price and still only making 50 dollars? I just can't understand that! The numbers don't work based on documents you have given us So sir, the 608 is the wholesale acquisition cost. Yeah we've done that dance. We've done that dance I understand that and then it's approximately $50 a profit off of the 274. Mr. Throckmorton let me ask you Ms. Bresch do you do business with the VA? I know it's a different population and the EpiPens are usually for kids with allergies but yes sir we do okay what's the VA paying

20:12 I'm not sure of the cost, but they have the ability to negotiate their own drug prices. Yes sir. That's a hell of a lot less I bet. So maybe that is what we oughta do for Medicare and Medicaid and everybody else let them negotiate their own drug prices directly with the pharmaceutical companies? That is what should happen here. It was not your intention either but it might have helped Congress get around an issue by showing the blatant disregard you have and disrespect you have for people who desperately need this medication. And you talk about expanding the ability for people to have the EpiPen, People in my district can't do it at $608 dollars Can't do it! A lot of those people don't have discounts They're regular middle class people that don't they don't have that Sorry to interrupt wasn't part of the problem That

21:09 The Affordable Care Act, insurance companies would no longer cover the increase or just the co-pay became too high. Wasn't that part of the problem where this initially kicked off? That is part of the problem and they have to be on a list And apparently most of their profits, a lot of not most but a lot of their profits are going. This was brought out in the conversation. A lot I think by Chaffee, a lot of their profits were thrown at lobbying to get on the list and you have to co-pay it. In other words insurance companies have to pick it up and I think that was their gambit from the beginning was to jacked the price which is what I talk about on this show all the time about how you get on certain preferred lists then the insurance companies have to pick it up

21:52 You could jack the price up and a lot of drugs that are common have been doubled and tripled and quadruple in price because it just gets picked up. And then the end user, you know, the person with insurance they don't even notice it they have the same five buck copay or whatever it is while the gouging is going on in the background which raises prices for everyone. This guy who's talking about bringing this back up in the current. This is all leading to single payer so that if we get a great drug coverage, you're going to get screwed. You can thank this woman well. We will let's play want to play the rest of your of this? Yeah, the rest of it is good because I like it and I like it. I heard this part discount and Medicare Part D there increases. I know the access went up by 164% since you bought the company from Merck

22:51 But the cost increase are up 1,151% based on a study here that I have from Juliette Kubanski and Tricia Newman. I want to enter this for the record without objection. This is disgraceful what's going on here but in a way like you've done us a little bit of favor by just showing you what's wrong with this system. What's wrong with our healthcare system? I think it's disgusting. I'll yield back. No, I agree. I think that was part of the mission of this grandstanding also there was a little bit if you take it in combination with

23:37 But Elizabeth Warren with the banker guy, it was also like FU rich people. FU millionaires which I think is a subtle dig towards Trump as well or the timing is interesting. It might be there's...it won't be anything compared to this subtle not so subtle dig at Trump on the Miss America Pancha. We'll get to that. Now, this is the last one which is another one of the Democrats that's kind of just giving her crap. But he does ask an interesting question and nobody else asks it right at the beginning which you'll hear And then he just goes on to excoriate her. I'd have a hard time believing that when she didn't cry herself to sleep tonight. These seizures... Have you ever seen an individual have a seizure?

24:26 Due to anaphylaxis? Yes. No sir Well, it's not a pretty sight And it is I mean look modern medicine has advanced in a way that's beneficial to patients but to have companies like yours take advantage of this situation, take advantage of these people who are really in need of this medication. I think it speaks to something that is... That we are better than that and I would hope that corporate America, the pharmaceutical industry is better than that. Look, in the last few seconds tell me what

25:17 You know, how do we get to this point that we have a culture like this in corporate America that wants to stick it to consumers? You know what I'm surprised by where are the women saying hey you're treating her differently than you treat him male CEO. That's I was seriously I'm like they were pretty harsh Yeah, I thought so but it could have been harsh for everybody. I've seen watching tough of these things She was actually So robot like with her oh we had unprecedented this she used the word unprecedented probably a dozen times to describe her $300 generic version of the exact same drug right and It's unbelievable it was just it was it was I thought quite funny and

26:08 And that's just the tip of the iceberg in terms of giving her crap. In other big pharma news, producer Corey Lane alerted me to something which... and I believe we've talked about this in a different context, the Mitragina spaciosa tree? Have we talked about this? This is the tree found in Southeast Asia and you can create kratom from it. Kratom K-R-A-T-O-M. You familiar with that? Is that a drug? Well, kratom... No I don't recall any of this. Okay. Kratom is the word used for the leaf material of the Mitragiana spaciosa tree. I'm sure murdering that. Kratom has a 1,000 year history of medicinal use in Southeast Asia and there are an estimated hundreds of thousands Americans who use kratom to treat their medical problems

25:17 You know, how do we get to this point that we have a culture like this in corporate America that wants to stick it to consumers? You know what I'm surprised by where are the women saying hey you're treating her differently than you treat him male CEO. That's I was seriously I'm like they were pretty harsh Yeah, I thought so but it could have been harsh for everybody. I've seen watching tough of these things She was actually So robot like with her oh we had unprecedented this she used the word unprecedented probably a dozen times to describe her $300 generic version of the exact same drug right and It's unbelievable it was just it was it was I thought quite funny and

26:08 And that's just the tip of the iceberg in terms of giving her crap. In other big pharma news, producer Corey Lane alerted me to something which... and I believe we've talked about this in a different context, the Mitragina spaciosa tree? Have we talked about this? This is the tree found in Southeast Asia and you can create kratom from it. Kratom K-R-A-T-O-M. You familiar with that? Is that a drug? Well, kratom... No I don't recall any of this. Okay. Kratom is the word used for the leaf material of the Mitragiana spaciosa tree. I'm sure murdering that. Kratom has a 1,000 year history of medicinal use in Southeast Asia and there are an estimated hundreds of thousands Americans who use kratom to treat their medical problems

27:02 It's easily accessible, it's cheap. Some people can use just like a dollar a week worth to treat symptoms of different ailments. Like what? Well it's in the report that I have and there is this very specific reason why we find out now that in just 8 days from now this product will be banned by the DEA and it will become a Schedule 1 drug! Equal to heroin, equal to of course marijuana which is laughable. And here's a report that I found which i think sums it up nicely what's going on? We begin with a little known drug that some use for pain others for recreation It's legal but only until the end of this month. It's known as kratom and those who use it are fighting the ban That's right Mark indeed this substance will soon be a schedule

27:53 one drug, meaning it has absolutely no medical value. But some that use it claim Kratom can be taken as an alternative to pain medications and even to heroin. Kratom, its a legal substance sold on the internet and locally but soon to be outlawed in classified as a schedule one drug. The stuff will only be on shelves for 10 more days leaving users without Most people definitely use it for pain, depression and anxiety. PTSD, restless leg syndrome, fibromyalgia. Kratom hasn't been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration and it's labeled not for human consumption when sold

28:33 Christopher DeOtis began using the substance after a painful car accident and claims the drug helped him kick his dependence on strong paid medication. Now this is the real kicker I think what this guy's about to say, and i have done little research because it came in last night but I think this-I believe this to be true."The first day I took I didn't wake up with any cold sweat anymore. I got off the oxycodone right away, didn't need anything else and I got back to my normal life literally within about six days." According to the Drug Enforcement Administration, kratom is a tropical tree native to Southeast Asia. The DEA has reported several cases in which the substance has caused psychosis in users, in addition to other dangerous side effects.

29:17 Kratom can have some opioid effects which are similar to, you know they create a sense of pain relief. But on the other hand there it also has these stimulant effects which can cause people to have a really high heart rate and she's in her zone to have really high blood pressure users like deodors argue that the drug should be researched more before being thrown into the same category as others schedule one drugs such heroin, ecstasy marijuana is one of 130,000 on a p government not to ban the claims of Kratom's health or not. The drug will n September 30th. The D. A hazard to public safety in

30:04 safety as the reason for the ban. I spoke with several smoke shops around Boise, all of whom declined to be on camera and they told me i would be surprised by the amount of kratom they sold on a daily basis." And Corey has promised to send me some kratom so I can try it out, which i'll do for the show obviously. Yeah sure. And I have some standing and I can evaluate the drug. Just don't do this show on the drug! Well depends how good it is So the media is reporting this side of the story, but what is actually happening... The DEA is making two alkaloids. It's the midaginine and the 7-hydroxymitragine. I don't know how to pronounce this. Two of these alkaloids are being turned into schedule one drugs and they're using the DEA's emergency scheduling provision which eliminates the requirement for a public comment period

31:02 and also reduces their enforcement. What's the rush? This plant has been in business for thousands of years! Well, I would say this has to do with the trial drug MGM-16 which contains these very two alkaloids which is of course if it's not already it's a patentable drug. Oops so the DEA I guess now law enforcement for Big Pharma It's crazy. That was implied, that was kind of implied on the hearings where the DEA guy wouldn't answer a lot of stuff it got all bent out of shape about much of this and then somebody brought there may be something like... There's at least a dozen it could be as many as 1,000

31:50 People trying to get EpiPen type products into the market and they all get refused. Yeah, but then that's the FDA. That's my land right? So that's the FDA on behalf of Merck probably huh it's really unbelievable It's outrageously corrupt And it's a schedule one drug they haven't even the FDA hasn't even tested at the DEA is saying oh this Is so dangerous we got to take it off the market immediately But maybe I'm so dangerous We've never heard of it yeah Maybe in the background. I would say it's so dangerous that 95% of our audience has never heard of it, which means the public has never heard about it. So how is this so dangerous? And you can't even weigh-in on it because they use their fast track system to get this schedule 1 outside of the FDA. Yeah no, this is terrible!

32:40 It's just gouging the American public left and right. Well, it's not just that when you I mean the main thing that i thought was great from that report is the guy says well you know I was on oxy and they started taking this within six days I'm done with that crap! That's a big deal we can't have that we have to keep everyone strung out no no we cannot have that very wrong Yeah, so anyway I'll be trying that and hopefully maybe by the weekend or next Thursday. I'll be able to bring a full report Well it's still legal so you can try whatever you want yeah until the 30th exactly oh Man all right anything else from From the no i think that covers that pretty well let me see if i have just in medical news they did have one little report

33:34 from the, hey we identified this a long time ago. You recall I was talking about the what was it? The I'm sorry lost my train of thought mechanics bank just called me on why they're calling there's usually bad sign no idea what is he talking about? What should we answer? We do it live on the show. I already hung up We talked about the America's with Disability Act regarding websites that are not compliant for the blind. I know what story you're going toward, this is terrible! And we predicted this would happen Harvard and MIT both sued because they are not ADA compliant with their online courses or online content Hold on a second University of California Berkeley

34:23 Same thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah more than just those two oh it's gonna be rampant and the main and so the lawsuit is over Actually one of the easiest things to fix I say all your videos don't have closed captions And this are they're suing them but it's trolls Well, they're getting sued and this means that the Khan Academy is going to be next. And it's gonna be more than just... Oh the closed caption? It's gonna be the wrong color or you don't have alternative... There are all kinds of things issues. So all this seems to me to be an attempt again I don't know by who or why I don't know what the point of this is

35:01 Because all it does is take free learning off the internet. So people can't get any, instead of having getting any free learning now you definitely have to pay these high... You have to take out government student loans and go to these schools! Exactly because that's exactly what it was they had the online courses that you could enter for free I believe Yeah, Cal's got all...Cal has a ton of stuff that's free. And the Khan Academy is free and everything but lynda.com you know it's free right? Right! Maybe it was to benefit the pay sites I'm not sure what's behind this but it's crazy and nobody's up in arms about it or even talking about it to any extent Then just want to remind everyone you heard about this months ago and actually think we kind of predicted this would happen one after the other This is just the beginning

35:52 Can't have free stuff. No, New York City, New Jersey bombing I just have a couple things this I find this troublesome very very... I have a couple clips. I had the one clip which unfortunately then I listened to it you can hear the guy but the dad yeah early clips I have that happen with the dad comes out says hey he's with you guys! To the FBI? Yeah Yeah. Somebody asked the guy what's going on, he says the FBI came by and told him hey he is with you guys! He is with you guys yeah. What does that supposed to mean? Well I have let me see... This was actually this was the report that I think

36:45 I think makes it a little more interesting. There's two parts to this, I think this was on Bloomberg. Two sources now confirmed to Fox News that there was some prior contact between Rahami and the FBI, and it arose out of this domestic dispute. We were told that was some years ago but in the course of that domestic dispute, the family member made an allegation that he was getting radicalized and this was pursued by

37:22 Okay, so FBI is called in because of a domestic dispute. Oh yeah, I know he's getting radicalized. He's getting radicalized! I just want to comment on something she said... They can't leave these guys on the radar forever This is- yes this is the meme that I'm hearing everywhere and we heard it with the Orlando bomber uh killer shooter

38:06 We can keep them on the radar. Yeah, not yet but I think this is going to start changing very soon. Hold on a second! I don't think it's ever changed they've had plenty of people that used to have these communists on the radar back in the 50s they were on their radar for decades there's all these guys are on the radar once you're on the list you're on the list well let's stop investigating him Well thats exactly what he said in Orlando shooting Yes, they've been saying this because there's something bullshit about it. They're saying that to get out of their responsibilities or because they're working for the guy or they're working together or who knows why they are saying it?

38:49 reason there are laws about wiretaps where you can only get on the tap for a certain amount of time and this was explored in The Wire itself that show but you have to get off after listening, listening, listening. You don't want to get up to the point you have to hang up again right click in again later But there's no reason to take anyone off the radar ever. What is what was with the No Fly List? Do you get bumped off of that too, that being on the radar seems... I understand what you're saying but i think we need these types of messaging so that we can turn that into a real legal formal process I don't think they need to. Well, maybe it has nothing to do with it but the other thing that's very annoying about this besides the fact that the guy put weak bombs in places that had shielding and wasn't necessarily going to blow people's heads off his other one went off too early and then they find his notebook with a bullet hole in blood which was touted everywhere

39:51 Come on, that's like the passport on 9-11. Since when do we have these props to shop around? And here is another little anomaly... So they found this ABC report I don't think I can get my clips I had to shorten them because they were too long but They found the guy had done an experimental bomb in his backyard and blew it up. And apparently a huge explosion in some guys' backyard, and nobody calls the police? Nobody hears it? What's the deal with that?" We are now learning about the father. His alert to the FBI and what he once called his own son. Now of course the wife being questioned was the suspect actually

40:31 alone. ABC's chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross leading us off with new charges just coming in tonight Federal officials confirmed tonight that they had been warned about accused bomber Ahmad Rahami, seen in this chilling surveillance tape allegedly about to plant bombs in his suitcase and backpack. The warnings came from his own father, Mohammed Rahami who told reporters outside his home today that he met with the FBI in 2014. But the FBI said today, the father later recanted his allegations and the son was never questioned by the FBI. They found that there was not enough there to continue the investigation Wait a minute wait a minute That's in contradiction to what we just heard on CNBC They're saying they never talked to the guy but CNBC says the FBI talked to him and didn't find anything had to take him off the list Apparently he wasn't even on the list according to this report There is not enough there to continue the investigation

41:34 The father's allegations came after his son's year-long trip to Pakistan, which is now a key to the investigation. I read the complaints both in New York and New Jersey complaints against Rouhani and not your...I'm missing a lot of background because what we of course want is like we typically see with FBI oh well we talked to this guy there's a report out there that they talk to him that seems pretty obvious Uh, this was you know didn't have any of your typical six week cycle hallmarks of, you know we we riled him up. I told them to do this cycle has been killed by Comey. We don't know what's going on. I'm just giving a just give an example of that so here here is well and you have anymore clips about this or because I just have a thought Do I have a second clip? No, let me see it. I don't think so no

42:31 I think I skipped it. Yeah, with the big debate coming up on Monday you would almost think that in the background the forces are at work where we have Clinton with Black Lives Matter and Soros creating havoc over white cops killing black citizens racism riots in Charlotte And then we have Trump, who I believe has FBI on his side using their patsies to pop off kitchen cookware everywhere. Just to stage what the debate will be about These are the two main things Clinton is totally all about Black Lives Matter and Trump is all about terrorism So it's just coincidence Let's just call it coincidence Yeah these events happen right now before the debate Coincidence? I think not!

43:22 That was my thought. Now the one thing about... Yeah, well that's a paranoid thought that I think could be as well accepted but let's look at one other element which kind of intrigues me this guy did go to Pakistan for a year i guess and he came back with another one of these wives yeah This is like the other guy, I guess it was Orlando bomber or the guy in Los Angeles He ended up with one of these wives. It was the other one where the two went in and shot up their colleagues? Yeah, that's Los Angeles right? Oh San Bernardino yeah okay gotcha. Yeah he had one of these crazy wives

44:10 So these guys go over there and they find some radical woman who, they have a couple of kids with the woman. And then the woman decides to talk them into doing this? I mean- That's possible. There is something very fishy about this. That's possible. And then we had this Tumblr page come out saying oh here it is manifesto like two paragraphs if I hate gays, I hate America boom! It was that was lame attempt at setting you know setting the narrative. I don't think anyone took that seriously also dropped off the radar really quickly So it's a very, yeah. I also find it interesting which idea...I could have clipped this too but I'm just going to summarize is better so the guess there was another bomb somewhere some

44:53 doofus is go by and they grab it, the luggage cause they need some something to carry their gym shorts in or something. And they dumped the bag, dumped the contents of the, of the luggage out which I guess had another pressure cooker bomb in it and then walk off with this thing. Now that police want you to look for evidence in it. So my favorite line was there, there is no we will net, there's no chance of being arrested coming At this point you're only a witness. Yeah, I'm gonna call right in hello everybody and also we can clearly see who that is very recognizable just call your witness mm-hmm sure I'm on the phone I did get a clip from CNN the woman who found another bag with the pressure cooker

45:42 A very typical New Yorker. What was your first impression of that pot? This is weird, someone must have thrown out their old garbage. Okay. This must have been something a kid was making or maybe... Like a kids science project! Yeah or an artist's kinetic sculpture. Kinetic sculpture?! Yeah, kaboom! What's more kinetic than a bomb? Why would she use that phrase I just found that to be interesting. She's in New York there are a lot of kinetic sculptures and there is a lot of museum exhibitions that are listed which say kinetic sculpture and she was in The New York Times. or an artist's kinetic sculpture? Because you live in Manhattan, let's face it and you see some weird trash on the street. So what was it after you thought okay this is a kid science project that then turned your mind... Well I went on to explore what had happened on 23rd.

46:35 because i'm still using windows ninety five apparently she did she say that wow. That's a catch! Okay this is a kids science project that then turned your mind... Well I went on to explore what had happened on 23rd street, it was milling around with the crowd but there was a lagging suspicion in the back of my mind that this was a little weird so I went home again take a second look and there was still? It was still there and I thought it had been thrown out with a buncha garbage but When I looked again, I saw that it was debris that was surrounding it. Not garbage that someone had thrown out after cleaning up their apartment So you did the right thing? You called 911? I went upstairs and called 9-1-1 because especially because there had just been a bomb I went downstairs to like meet with the detectives To show them where it was And they had gotten there and found it And they saw me coming towards them and said run! Get off the block

47:28 That's scary. Yeah, that was scary. That's when I thought they were taking it seriously yeah up until that point I thought Man New Yorkers there always camera ready always weird That's weird. Yeah, the naturals yeah the only other thing I have in this regard is the Andrew Cuomo he says he still the governor of New York State yeah, Andrew Cuomo He was on CNN and now there really is only one solution to you know, to how we stop terrorism. We all know what we really need to do in New York but medium-sized cities small cities all across this country countries across the globe I think this in many ways is the new normal and we're going to have to prepare for it right and the rhetoric isn't going to do it It's reducing the anger through dialogue

48:16 and protecting ourselves with intelligent police actions, etc. Yeah love! That's what Lorenzo Lynch said Well that's the talking point you have to do it with love we can fix everything Just hug a Muslim Have you hugged a Muslim today? Back in the 70s that would have been a pretty funny bumper sticker I'm alright So we'll just have to see what pans out. But I don't like it at all, these two events all kind of being stoked up just in time for whatever the conversation is going to be and what I think will be one of the highest rated televised broadcasts of our history."

48:56 Now, who's going to be on ABC I think or is it NBC? Who's doing it. I don't know. Doesn't everyone just get to carry it live or does someone...I guess not. Someone has to. Maybe there'll be multi-channel maybe that's possible. I thought... I know that Lester Holmes the NBC guy. Isn't it Lester Holt? Lester Holt? Holmes! I thought it was Holt. It's Holt you're right. Holmes thinking of somebody else named Holmes. John He uh or Sherlock Yeah He's going to be the moderator and I think both candidates are worried about the questioning. And I think because Hillary should be happy that it is an NBC guy, cause they're all in for Hillary as we know from the Lerner-Lehner report but they're fearful because everyone seems to think that Matt Lauer was harsh

49:50 He was he sucked. He was no good. He didn't fact-check on the fly. You didn't ask the right questions He was bad bad what did you know to joke about that? He was harsh against Hillary, but not against Trump is that you did a segment mm-hmm proving just the opposite where he had said I'm gonna have facts. He had done fact checking he had done that it wasn't yet the tweet just sitting there and Yeah, he nailed him with some back in June 7th 1443. This happened and that led to this. I know it's great But they're worried because they think that you know, I guess they expected Matt Lauer to just roll over for Hillary Right Do nothing but i think there is all the set up just make it look like NBC is actually going to be objective I think they are gonna go after Trump

50:42 I think they're going to go after Trump. Yeah, that would make a lot of sense. It makes sense to me. Hey Trump finally did something he almost did it right one of my biggest pet peeves ever and i got this clip 20 times from people You know, we always talk about the president's number one responsibility and you have the actual oath to be sworn in for the President of United States as you swear to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States of America. But usually it's like oh keep the people safe that is my...that is the number one responsibility which is important but it's not the number ones do not swear to keep the American people safe

51:18 Although, I guess in an ancillary way because you will fulfill the duties of Commander-in-Chief. I guess that kind of means that but it's really about the Constitution and this is a clip everyone sent me. My highest duty as President is to protect our citizens and to uphold the Constitution of the United States Not bad! Close At least he's close. I haven't heard anyone say that No, he's the first one. It's actually I think maybe somebody in his campaign is listening to the show because you harp on this Yeah how many years have been harping on it? Almost the entire length of the show all our years pretty much since that was first Pretty much since the first president said my duty is to protect the public yeah Did you have more higher duty?

52:09 Hillary, on the other hand is... she's cancelling things. She's canceling really big fundraisers. Her eyeballs going every which way. It's because of her eyeballs! Yeah exactly What is it? Let me see where was like a hundred thousand dollar a plate dinner that she always calls has been postponed How can you postpone that? She must be thinking she's coasting. No, no the excuse is... She's sending in the body double! The excuses that actually here it is It was even better than that if I look at this report I'll tell you exactly This was supposed to be in oh this was actually in North Carolina

52:49 Not in Charlotte, but in North Carolina. And here it is the contribution levels were described as $100,000 which featured chair reception with Hillary and then if you want a host reception with Hillary the price for that is $33,000 Nice! And five thousand dollars to get preferred seating and If you just want to be in the back with all the schlubs twenty seven hundred dollars So she canceled that, but instead she's making videos and sending them off to people. I think this is for Nevada and so she's trying to really get all assertive and maybe this is the Hillary we'll see during the debate It always sucks though when you have a rant And then you mess it up at the end. And I will fight back against so-called right to work Right to work is wrong for workers and wrong for America

53:47 Now having said all this, why aren't I 50 points ahead you might ask? Well the choice for working families has never been clearer. I need your help to get Donald Trump's record out to everybody Nobody should be fooled He proudly declared himself 100% right-to work He even hired a union-busting firm to break up an organizing campaign at his hotel in Las Vegas, where you are right now. And he built up his wealth by stiffing small businesses and contractors That goes against everything we stand for as a country My dad was a small business I'm just businessman I'm just happy never did business with Trump Epic fail Poorly written punchline Yeah very bad

54:41 She's not funny this could easily be the body double because this is such a different cadence and so completely different in speech pattern The whole attitude is different Well, she has a number of styles. I mean she has the shouting style where she's poking at the... She's got her fingers poking at the air, throwing her right arm out boom-boom-boom and then she's yelling And then she's got the buh duh duh duh duh duh duh And then she looks left and right and left like a robot She's got that robot style This thing is a little different, a little variation But what she said there which i think you missed Is

55:22 She said that she is doing this meeting at a Trump hotel. Are you kidding me? Oh, I didn't hear that Is that did she say Trump Hotel or did you know that she says? Do crappy Trump hotels where they try to bust the Union right which is where you are right now It's what she said oh, I thought she said you're in Vegas where you are right now I don't know if she... well, maybe she did mean that. And by the way what exactly is the controversy with right to work? I thought that was always a good thing is that not a good thing though? You know what it means do you have any clue? That means no one can stop you from working uh by some kind of agreement that's-you can't-you always have the right to work and no one can stop you from working. That's kind of what it means but also means you can't be forced to join a union

56:12 Or you can't be forced into a union. Although if it's a union shop and you have to be in the union, to be in the shop is like acting. You can't just say I want to be an independent actor. You won't get a SAG job. No no And so for all practical purposes acting needs right-to-work laws So you can just...I don't want to join SAG. I just wanna act in this movie Yeah okay that's what I said I don't wanna pay any dues. It's a bit of acts That's what it refers too I'm not against unions. I mean, so I'm in SAG-AFTRA and there's ways you can do independent productions without... You know they have a special clause for that it's not too bad their health care sucks but their plan their insurance plan

56:59 That's because they all suck. No kidding, former Florida Governor Charlie Crist is running for Congress and he was on stage making his case I think it was actually the guy from CNBC who was moderating this nice little gig on the side and the audience...and this is I believe mainly Democrats in the audience responded to something he said You voting for your party's nominee, Governor? I am. I am proud of Hillary Clinton. She has been a very good Secretary of State and Senator from the state of New York The thing that I like most about her is that she is steady. I believe she is strong. I believe that she is honest and I look forward to voting for her. Governor Christ? Wow! Yeah! Oh man it's crazy

57:56 That was something yeah, I like that a lot. I like that a lot See and I just have all these crazy little clips on the sidelines this Bono Bono was on Charlie Rose Bono who I have not liked since 1981 is douche And I would argue that he is He's more Republican than Democrat Just based on his finances and who he hangs out with But, you know... He doesn't play that game. He plays the Democrat game. He does! I'm just saying what i think. For the people Yeah and so he was on Charlie Rose now oh man it's just a deuce Just listen to this Look America is like the best idea The world ever came up with but Donald Trump Is potentially The worst idea That ever happened

58:51 Thanks, mr. Irish potential destroy it because destroy it a forward saying because I like this Because he takes a minute and a half to not say why of what we're saying because America's not just the country Ireland's nice country Great Britain's great country all the rest but some idea America is an idea and that idea's bound up in justice and equality for all. Is that the idea of America? I don't think, I thought it was freedom. Wasn't freedom the American idea? Freedom and liberty! He's like equality and justice for all huh yeah well that's your basic premise we brought this up on the show before this is a was a boil down what's interesting in a Democrat or Republican or conservative and liberal not Democrat or Republican but a conservative and a liberal because they cross over yep and one with freedom inequality

59:48 No, freedom and liberty and justice inequality. Those are the two different precepts. And freedom and liberty is what the conservatives think is prime and the Democrats see it as justice and equality. Which one, on what side do you fall? And he said justice and equality so if your freedom in liberty that you're a douche. Yeah! Doesn't sound like much of a Republican to me but okay... And by the way Ireland UK screw you You know good you're not an idea here's the country I don't want him go back to Ireland America is an idea and that idea has been up injustice inequality for all quality and justice for all

1:00:29 And this... Where's freedom? No, it's not in there. I think of Emma Lazarus those lines give me your tired your poor you're huddled masses yearning to breathe free Now see that actually says it right there the bird to breathe free but he doesn't get it This is America I mean, this is not from Donald Trump's playbook. Look, I have spent 20 years – nearly 20 years now – fiercely bipartisan and I'm going to stay that way and I've enormous respect for

1:01:12 the party of Abraham Lincoln, some of the greatest workers in The One Campaign come from conservative tradition. They're Republicans that are very close friends of mine. I don't think he's a Republican! But what is it? I think he has hijacked the party and I think he is trying to hijack the idea of America and I think its bigger than all of us It's, it's... this is really dangerous and I think you know, it should wise people of conscience should not let this man turn your country into a casino. A casino? Don't now- I don't understand. Turn your country into a casino? We love casinos! We do everywhere That's like a plus

1:02:02 Yeah, even our American Indians. They got casinos! We love casinos I don't understand why you wouldn't want it to be a full-on casino Yeah, we got the stock market. We're the biggest in the world in that regard. Stock markets are a giant casino let's face it! I'm going to send you...I should have put this on our website, sorry. I'm gonna send you a PDF right now through Skype which I want you take a look at. Now, I believe this is authentic but I want you see the document so you can look at with me together This is an internal memo which apparently was leaked from Monmouth University regarding the Monmouth University poll

1:02:42 And this is an election poll and this resulted in an article in the New York Times who cited this particular poll. And the headline is, Jesus New York Times get away with your ad white voters keep Trump's hopes alive in must win Florida And this is, you know, this is kind of a narrative that we've heard. So it's only white guys and they cite this poll exclusively. Do you have an open in front of the PDF? I'm looking at it now. So what does questioning get immediately? You mean questioning the validity? Yeah. Authenticity of it. And I would say the reason why well, yes, my reasons to say why. Why? Oh, wow. To be so sincere. Why John?

1:03:31 I don't really see universities normally sending out memos like this. By the way, the structure of the memo is not very good and if you're gonna have...I mean now this is going to make you laugh a little bit. Should I explain first what we're looking at so people understand? We are looking at the Monmouth University poll memo written from someone to Patrick Murray And it's a priority message, do not copy blah-blah. It's got net message Hillary research... Well let me sum it up in general what we're reading here is instructions for two people who will be taking this who will be putting this poll out there and calling people as a telephone pole and it's giving all kinds of different ways that they are going to ask the questions in a certain way

1:04:18 so that the answers come back with keynotes such as birtherism is backfiring, Trump's unfavorables are climbing minority voices support Hillary implying racism white vote is Trump. White rally bull crap you think it's bull crap? Yeah. It's damn good! I have a lot of reasons, the structure of the memo is not a memo structure it's got the bowl facing and stuff it's got phrases like eyes only really? Okay well that's why I wanted you to see it. Eyes only! No thats why I wanted you to see it. I had my questions but knew you would have better handle on that

1:04:57 It's not a real memo. Somebody created this thing to make it look like the poles are rigged, we know the poles are rigged! I was going to say, the beautiful thing is that the poles were actually rigged but they tried too hard or maybe not hard enough? It just has to be a little... it's still but the terrible, terrible phony memo. There is no way this is a real memo. Good then we'll move onward. Dr Drew who was unceremoniously fired. Canned! Canned one of our producers sent me a clip from Adam Carolla now Dr Drew has done lots of shows podcasts all kinds of things with Adam Carolla I think he actually has a podcast still on his network

1:05:45 And well, I thought this was worth playing. Yeah, yeah, I tried to get with all this Hillary Clinton and all the pneumonia and all this stuff I thought let's get drew to call in and just tell us how pneumonia works What we should be looking out for but as a gel people are zapping them and saying don't say word Mouth shut Tommy Yeah Here's the new world order in case anyone thinks it may exist It may not exist But, whether it actually exists or doesn't exist in Drew's mind he cannot come on this podcast and speak about Hillary Clinton even in a hypothetical way. And or I said I knew he was going to be a puss. I said just come on and talk about pneumonia. In general. We'll just talk about pneumonia and then we'll do the Hillary Clinton math

1:06:36 No. Got a couple of deals brewing, and he does not want to risk those deals." Now there's the perception from Dr Drew who has lived in this town and worked in this town for 30 some odd years that he cannot go... now he can come on and tell you that Donald Trump had a baby's arm growing out of his asshole with no problemo, and he would have no difficulty potentially finding work. But in his mind with a couple these deals pending Not a good idea as a physician to speak about one of the candidates who probably become the president and her medical condition is a huge story after it's A huge story. It's a massive store not gonna risk it drew has a feeling that he may hurt his career No, there you go Yeah, I've been on dr. Drew side. Of course, of course among doctor drew side He's absolutely right And yeah Did you see the new celebrity video?

1:07:39 Oh no, I missed this one. I did hear the Corolla piece but I didn't miss this. Okay oh my goodness well while i play this and um it's worth listening to because you can... Is this an ad that Hillary is running in some border states or something? No! This is just celebrities who got together who want to help everyone register to vote. So okay so you're right it's an ad for some border states So it's savetheday.vote, which is a pack actually and they've Robert Downey Jr., I mean there are tons of celebrities in this and after about 40 seconds you understand where it's headed. On Tuesday November 8th this country will make one of the most important... The most important... The most important decisions in its history

1:08:27 You have a chance. You have an obligation to be part of that decision. You might think it's not important, you might think you're not important but that's not true and the only way we can prove that to you is by having lots of famous people Lots of famous people Lots and lots of famous people Just a shit ton of famous people Repeating how important Important How...important is Register. Register. Register. Vote. There's so many famous people! Some of us aren't as famous, but still pretty famous Like you've seen us somewhere Sometimes a not-famous person will be mixed in with the famous ones They drive the message home Because of their unpolished sincerity Their...

1:09:15 Unpolished sincerity. But you only get this many famous people together if the issue is one that truly matters to all of us A disease or... Ecological crisis, or a racist abusive coward who could permanently damage the fabric of our society And there it is! Do the math Wow! And do we really ever give nuclear weapons? And it just keeps on going It's really, really amazing. Yeah that's just some more name calling people doesn't that prove Dr Drews point right there? Yeah nails it sadly he was missing coward Sadly he was missing from the video dr drew should have been in it That would've been funnier yeah and with that I'd like to

1:10:04 Thank you for your courage to say in the morning to you John C with a c stands for celebrity Hillary endorsement Dvorak. Well, in the morning to you Mr Adam Curry In the morning to all the ships at sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs and water and all the dames and all the knights Indeed And in the mornings everyone in chat room noagendastream.com good to have y'all here in the morning to Neil Campbell who brought us the artwork for episode 861. It was the Vegetonian Burrito Corporation, which made us both laugh! We like that a lot um we always have fresh artwork on our shows we're one of the few shows that do that consistently and uh we're proud of that and proud of the work that our artists put into it now no agendaartgenerator.com please go upload if you got something and we always are looking for that right after the live stream ends

1:11:01 Couple came in late I noticed. Yeah, it always happens. Generally speaking...I hate to say this but you've got about 15 minutes. Probably not even that long. Well i mean you know some people hear halfway through the show and start working on it but yeah yeah You have to start early That's why we- But then the show is so loaded with potential Just loaded, John. We're just... we're loaded for bears! So we have two executive producers and two associate executive producers to thank for show 862? Is that right? Yeah 862 correct you are correct sir Starting with David West, David E West in Marysville Washington

1:11:44 $520.52, which is 52 zero dot 52. Oh! A lot of 52s going on this maybe for your birthday? I don't know but he sent a note in. Sent a note? Mm-hmm. Dear John and Adam...I was hit in the mouth by my friend coworker and carpool buddy George around show 759 so this guy's coming in early here from yeah these guys are started to show 700 602 when they finally got around donating uh rounds around 7.59 when you were discussing Clock Boy, and I couldn't believe how on target you were and how I wasn't hearing this anywhere else in the news." Oh geez! Well it's a show... Yeah. Your analysis is definitely original would not be possible if it weren't for the value-for-value model you employ. This is absolutely correct. The Dr. Drew story. That's right. First of all I need to deducing because has been almost two years since they started listening. All right You've been deduced

1:12:42 Secondly, I want to wish Adam a belated happy birthday. Hence the donation amount of 52 zero dot 52 Thank you very much. I would like to I would like to wish my beautiful hot wife A happy birthday! You got your pencil? Oh Yes, I have my number two pencil. Hers is on September 24th age unknown Okay and this is from David E West Hot girlfriend, what's her name? Hot wife. Wife. Sorry. His girlfriend is next month. What's his hot wife's name? He doesn't say. And her birthday is when? September 24th

1:13:25 Okay, got it. On the list Can I get some Jobs Karma and the following jingles? Ah jeez, okay And before I tell you what those are, I want to also mention he says at the end 73's from your fellow ham KE7FXU Oh! 7 3s Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie Ditto ditto ditto Okay, jobs karma Can I get some jobs karma and the following jingles? Can you see that juice Little girl yay And then the scream Okay, can you see that juice? Let me see if there's so many of them. Yeah little girl yay You said yeah and then that horrible scream Oh the scream um See normally when I have the note in front of me I can work a little bit I'm just true I'm just and if I was actually on the ball one because these checks come in yesterday Mm-hmm. I would I should sit down and write a memo oh please

1:14:24 Oh, please don't even threaten that shit. Oh my gosh! Can you see that juice? Why?! Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! You've got karma No worries we got it done Nick Balson in Richmond, Virginia. 345.67 No note no email that I could find you may have gotten something in your box You might want to look but yeah, I assume assumed that he either has nothing to say or he will tell us later He's an executive producer for a show see Nick Balson 877 no I don't know ALS I Do not think I have anything from him

1:15:09 Onward to Kevin Johnson, KJ in Phoenix Arizona. It's not the same KJ I'm referring too who is the mayor of Sacramento? Thanks for The Best Podcasts In The Universe B-P-I-T-U this donation makes me makes the final push tonight hood. Ah yes! And like and like a shout out to Josh for propagating the formula in the Pacific Northwest Hey Josh! Josh! Josh Please knight me Sir Johnson, defender of the blue line. Okay and we will do that looking forward to that definitely that's it oh and there wasn't a set I thought there was two associate executives but no just one so that's not very short list today very short list and want to thank you folks we do have in just like a couple days before the next show so hopefully they will do a little better did you get a present from sir Crovatos

1:16:03 What was it? Dear Adam, just wanted to share some of my house-made apple brandy with you. No! I did not get that. I've heard you are not much of a drinker so be careful This last batch is a bit stronger than what the label states Hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoyed the show Long live The Best Podcasting Universe Sir Cravatos and uh... I will be sampling that this evening I did not get that What I did get was this What's that? This is the Hillary laughing pen. And it's actually a very funny little object Is it huge? I don't know who sent it because it came from Amazon

1:16:53 Sorry, is it a really huge pan like really thick or is it what does look? It's kind of an oversized not to oversize its usable And it's got that big a big head on the top of it where the eraser would be if it was a pencil With Hillary's head and his little button you pushing it. It makes this noise That's pretty cool. I like that. I think these are available which funny is they actually would the pen itself is hilarious But there's a bunch of stuff on the back of the packaging. I should have to read a couple of these It says it too. There's like a list. It's like why would you buy this pin so as pro and con? Oh cool, okay

1:17:32 So pro is Hillary has a great belly laugh from DNC chair Terry McAuliffe. Con, isn't that frightening? The radio TV host Sean Hannity Pro I think the laugh has actually served as a pretty effective tool Democratic strategist Chris Lahan Con some say Hillary's laugh is overdone as Al Gore's kiss to CNN woman. Pro Mike Allen says it's a guffaw and been very effective Now, and then the con from Frank Richard in The New York Times. Now Mrs Clinton is erupting in a laugh with all the spontaneity of an alarm clock buzzer anyway goes on. It's nice item should maybe collectible for the election? I'll have a look on Amazon. I think it isn't collectible. I'd love to have one of those before we go you were searching something in your email and that triggered a thought and I had this note written down for two weeks We need to talk about your squirrel male guy

1:18:30 Oh yes, he sent out an announcement about this. This is not a good announcement I don't like doing it. I'm gonna do it. Explain the background of him Mark Perkel is an old-timer in the business. He's been he did marks mail and he's done a bunch of stuff over the years as a big during the era Novel, he was like a hot shot in that scene And he does a us mail didn't he does a junk email filter comm? He's got some patentable technology I think And he's been doing my email for years. This is the guy who makes sure you get no spam? Famous, you're famous! The Get No Spam Guy. GetNoSpam this is the guy and everyone knows it was kind of a meme for awhile and he's got stage 4 lung cancer and he's gonna die in six months

1:19:21 Yeah, why don't you just ease us into it John? Thanks. I thought I'd eat you right into it yeah He has no symptoms he's asymptomatic and there was only a fluke that he found out about wait a minute What did I didn't find out what is asymptomatic this is interesting means she's asymptomatic so we has no symptoms yet He's going to die yes This happens, people have a lot of asymptomatic illnesses. Normally you know your hand would fall off when you had leprosy but you don't have... You got leprosy but no symptoms which makes no sense. But yeah he's asymptomatic so he's fine and he's doing his job and he handles a lot of websites

1:20:00 mostly nonprofit websites. He does, I believe he's still in charge of the EFF website. He has his own server system and he does a lot of hard basic grunt work. He is willing to train anyone who wants to take over his business so any unemployed coder out there or programmer named Ben any dude named Ben out there, and he'll teach you what he's doing with this spam filtering. I've always believed Marks business is a sleeper because he never was into marketing. He's always made just enough money to just get by and that's what he did but now he says he's gonna die. You know? I would say probably not as quick as he might think but he's planning for earlier than later so he can get the transfer done cause he has to train somebody

1:20:47 to do this system that he has established. Ctyme.com is the base URL and you say, why can't you say that? And it reminded me of a story one of our producers sent who I believe is involved when we have to keep some stuff anonymous about Spam House. Did you see that? I don't remember it. Spam house, a very famous resource that you of course running my own mail server. I've used this for years spam house is they have a database and you can connect to the database and you can get... It'll identify spam as you run it through your system

1:21:30 And what's the name of this guy? I forget his name, who was running Spamhaus. But anyway our producer who works for an automobile company they send out a lot of emails he says we don't send out spam it's only to list the people have opted into and all of a sudden their email started getting trapped by Spamhaus Now our producer says, you know car dealers not the best at making creative. So yeah maybe we had too many images but all the email addresses were obtained with permission We don't allow the upload of purchase lists These are people who first inquired in our dealerships Nonetheless we got on Spam House's radar when we finally jumped through the 11-7 hoops to get in touch with somebody because they were being blocked They told us that we needed to hire their consultant to help us with our email problem How much do you think the email consultant charges per day?

1:22:21 Too much. Just give me a guess, man. Well day rate should be the most $3,000 yeah? $30,000 a day yes so they are using these douchebags service who me Yeah, you said. Of course I'm going to take them off. Are you kidding me? These are a-holes! I didn't know this is news stuff. I thought Spam House was kind of like a good guy and our producers talked to their two biggest competitors same thing extortion hundreds of thousands of dollars in email consultancy fees so... Extortion that's a good story i should write this up on PC Magazine I didn't know it was this bad yeah I'll send you the thirty thousand dollar figures a little high say whoever wrote that note into those send me another copy

1:23:06 Um, just so I can talk to you about it. Anyway back to your guy at Mark, this is not what I'm advising doing with marks. No, that's fine. Sorry. Just, uh, I just wanted to get it out now. I know. I understand markson on his guy and he doesn't do crap like that and he's like a great guy and he needs to have somebody take over as system. So somebody out there we have enough listeners worldwide or Lloyd should be in somebody in the Bay area We have enough people that, or you either know someone or you could do it. Or somebody's looking for work or they want to have a little hobby that's more than a hobby. It's like a well-paying job that you're in total control of just send me an email john at Dvorak dot org and put the headline Mark Perkel on the subject line so I can spot it And we'll see if we can make something work because I'm screwed If this doesn't get moved over

1:23:59 Who cares about Mark dying? Who cares about that? My email, my spam! But I'm totally screwed if he goes because I won't find another system this good. I already have offers coming in who want to do this. The system that he has is fantastic He's a really good guy and does good work And for his thing with the squirrel It's just a fantastic guy and I'm actually hoping he gets over this. Maybe being asymptomatic is something that indicates you get over it, I don't know! Well the only thing we can do on this... He doesn't seem to have much hope but we'll give him some love. We need some F-cancer karma, that's what we need for this guy. That's what we do on this show.

1:24:53 You've got karma. There you go Wish him well, of course All right Thank you to our two executive producers are one lone associate executive producer a little week today in general It'll be a short segment later on and we thank everyone $50 or above usually for reasons of anonymity and again thank you these are real titles that you get as executive producer or associate executive producer and You know, use them anywhere that might be recognized. Like at the Emmys! Which we should talk about after we tell you to go out there and do some very important work of propagating our formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

1:25:47 Shut up! Oh, I forgot something. Dvorak dot org slash N-A That's right for our show coming up on Sunday... Sunday, Sunday, Sunday Oh, righty. Hey I saw you have a clip about the Skittles thing and wouldn't mind talking about that... I have two clips about the Skittles thing. Okay now I heard what the Skittles thing first it was like... It's very well explained in the clip all right we don't really have to even set it up but this is contrasting clips because democracy now even though I have a lot of problems with them and their biases and sometimes they're reporting as just reading off of a sheet

1:26:28 They did a absolute perfect presentation of what this, what happened. I mean they also, oh! They were all excited about it but at least the information is correct and then we'll play the ABC report, which is like what? It doesn't even make any sense what ABC said. Okay democracy now first Donald Trump's son Donald Trump Jr has sparked outrage after he tweeted a graphic reading quote if I had a bowl of Skittles and I told you just three would kill you Would you take a handful that's our Syrian refugee problem unquote

1:27:04 Along with the graphic, he tweeted the words this image says it all. In response Skittles parent company Wrigley Americas said in a statement quote skittles are candy refugees are people we don't feel it's an appropriate analogy will respectfully refrain from further commentary as anything we say could be misinterpreted as marketing I'd love that line yeah okay now a couple of things here one is I thought it was a reasonable analogy. If you're going to make that argument, it also hit home for me because for seven and a half years I promoted the crap out of Skittles on MTV. It was like the number one advertiser taste the rainbow. I like skittles but

1:27:56 I thought it was a very good and thoughtful analogy. And those things are not easy to develop, you can't really come up with stuff that actually makes some sense in the oh yeah i get it now! In terms of I get it now that's what the idea is where they were everyone's offended because Skittles was thrown into the mix which anyone loves skittles and they don't want to end... It does sound like the whole thing as a promotion for Skittles at the end of the episode. The woman, or I think it was a woman that the PR department of Skittles Wrigley, whoever it is. She's very silent you know she wasn't there was a marketing commentary so let's just leave it at that but meanwhile this thing has gotten blown out of control and so we have a report from ABC who is really just off the rails in this last week and makes me wonder if they're switching sides because of some other reporting but

1:28:49 This is like doesn't have any this the it's just terrible David Wright. Thank you meantime also tonight in the race for the White House were that a former Republican president George HW Bush Could be voting for Hillary Clinton Also Donald Trump son Don jr causing a firestorm after sending a tweet comparing Syrian refugees to a bowl of poisonous skittles asking would you take the chance? Oh, that wasn't even the best the best deconstruction of it This is what was circling on the face bag, started by The Intercept I might point out. Naomi Lachance... You ready for this?

1:29:28 Okay. Donald Trump Jr.'s tweet comparing Syrian refugees to Skittles has deep roots! Oh yes, the concept dates back at least to 1938 in a children's book called Der Giftpils or The Toadstool in which a mother explains to her son that it only takes one Jew to destroy an entire people. Oh Yes We're back to Hitler everybody The book's author, Julius Streicher also published a newspaper that Adolf Hitler loved to read. Der Stürmer. The newspaper published anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic, anti-Communist and anti-capitalist propaganda in 1933 soon after Hitler took power. Streicher used his newspaper to call for the extermination of Jews

1:30:13 And here's it. Trumps tweet has clear parallels to Stryker children book where a boy named Franz, it gets better, where a boy named Franz learns about the Jews from his mother quote However they disguise themselves, or however friendly they try to be. After firming a thousand times their good intentions to us one must not believe them. Jews they are and Jews they remain for our folokhs are poison." Franz says,"Oh yes mommy like the poisonous mushroom!" Yes my child just a single poisonous mushroom can kill a whole family so as solitary Jew can destroy a whole village a whole city even an entire volokh!

1:30:55 And that has been racing around the face of the earth. Talk about digging deep! Isn't that incredible? Wow... So if we can use that analogy, what is it? Can we say one bad apple? Is that also anti-semitic? No no no it's about killing Jews if you say one bad apple. Anti-semitic?! Meanwhile, you know, the point is people coming in it's hard to vet them and Kirby I don't know why they let him out. They let him out of the State Department he went on Fox & Friends. We feel good that is done appropriately, it is done thoroughly that the vetting is good and the president has talked about the fact we are going up

1:31:34 of total refugees to more than a hundred thousand for fiscal year 17. I wouldn't debate the fact that there's the potential for ISIS terrorists to try to insert themselves and we've seen that in some of the refugee camps in Jordan and Turkey where they're trying to insert themselves into their population but again, the vetting process while not perfect is very very stringent any takes it can take almost up to two years. He kind of said yeah...it happens! That actually begs the question. If you have... why bother vetting at all if none of this is, you know, if this is all about Jews? Just let them all come over! Why do you need to vet unless what the analogy says is true?! In other words, if the analogy's not correct why would you vet it all? Wait a minute run that by me again What exactly are you saying he is saying you got a big pile of Skittles and there's two bad ones in there They're poisonous Yeah poison Is that a possibility yes according to Kirby Yes

1:32:35 That's what I'm saying, that if that wasn't a possibility and meaning the analogy is accurate. Oh! Meaning Kirby is an anti-Semite? Exactly! That's what it means. It mailed it. Kirby and The Intercept for the matter are bunch of Jew haters. Really?! Okay... I found to be unbelievable Well you're reading from The Intercept would be clip of the day Yeah Yeah, but you should just have Tina read it and clip it and then put on the show. And just put some sounds behind it? You know, I was like... yeah exactly! So this is what's going over the face bags. Oh yeah oh yeah so the comment about the Skittles means that Trumps are Jew haters well I'm gonna bring out-you know okay come on I don't have the clips to back this up but I've got some clips Taste the rainbow John come on bring it on

1:33:26 I got some good stuff that i'll bring up in the next show. Oh okay, you're gonna keep us in the dark? Yes because I need to get the material first so it's not going to be one of those never-ending ones... When is that gonna happen?! What happens when THAT happens? There's something we need to discuss that came up and a lot of people tweeted about it and I did quite a bit of research Because I do believe we were wrong, but I still think in the end... Do you believe or do you do believe? I believe. I believe that we were indeed wrong but that in the long run we are right this is about the pardon We have been wrong and right, I agree Sure This is about the pardon Oh! Right For Snowden We're wrong Well Let me It was corrected

1:34:25 So here, well yes and so I wasn't corrected on the show. Was not corrected on the show. We said present this idea of pardon Snowden which is you know this in tandem with the movie coming out it's pretty amazing how those things came out at the same time but there's this petition for pardoning Snowden one President Obama to pardon him and we incorrectly said Well, you know that you can't be pardoned if you haven't committed a crime yet or if you haven't been convicted of the crime. That is incorrect and this of course stems from the Constitution where it clearly says the president can pardon except in matters of impeachment. And a lot of people sent me links and information about the pardoning of Richard Nixon, and that was actually challenged and the Supreme Court said no according to Ex parte Garland which is very weird case from 1867

1:35:26 which was about the, it actually said the complete. The president really has the power to pardon anything at any time and this is 1867 so this is now seen genuinely as true and that President Obama could indeed pardon Snowden possibly even if he hasn't been convicted Because the crime even if you did that yeah, you don't have to have be convicted or even charged. Yeah, you can have this blanket pardon it's right whatever evil deed you did yes however

1:36:08 I found, as I was researching this like this is really how can this be? At what point is there no limitation. Can the president really do this and there was a second filing. This was Schick versus Reed now. This was 110 years later and this was regarding a case and Chief Justice Berger delivered the opinion And he said, very specifically that the president can do all this. It's in the Constitution however The constitution rules above everything else so the president may not pardon someone of a crime against the constitution

1:36:54 And that would be... So Snowden could be pardoned for breaking the computer systems, all kinds of stuff. But not for treason if he is convicted of treason that would be as the Constitution trumps the president's power in that case I believe this is I'm not a lawyer okay well that's not a bad thought I don't think it's gonna be treason I thought was gonna be a violation of the Espionage Act some arcane which off the yeah but I think that will flow right well here's a XCI director Woolsey we know who we know what he's all about. Well if you contrast Snowden with Daniel Ellsberg in the Pentagon papers back in the 60s early 70s Ellsberg took policy papers and he did release them to the press from famous incident New York Times

1:37:49 uh... and they did become public but if you go back a look at them now um their policy papers they don't disclose any operations they don't disclose who is one of our spies behind enemy lines et cetera uh... and as in by the way elbert voluntarily came back to the united states to be prosecuted The court made some procedural mistake when prosecuting him and he ended up not having to go to prison. But, he was a very principled man in his own way. yeah i words fail me uh... i think he he uh... ought to be brought back to the united states but he ought to be put on trial before a jury of his peers and if convicted um... out of treason which ought to be the charge as i understand it that still carries uh... the possibility of death by hanging and that's that's what i would like to see happen

1:38:46 I like her tag. I'd like to see him hang and then listen to a response. He said the possibility of death by hanging, and that's what I would like to see happen to Snowden. All right good to get your thoughts on that Ambassador James Woolsey Good to have you. I want to hang the guy! Oh it's good to get your thoughts on that thank you Not listening, perhaps. So I think that this is also being played into it as a very political slant because uh i think a lot of the uh a lot of techies who may have more conservative thoughts are you know think that what Snowden did is good and uh you know Woolsey is a Trump advisor so if you elect Trump uh Snowden will be hanged which we want to see happen and

1:39:38 And if you... We can let Hillary and Trump be hanged. Or no, Trump will be hanged! Either way, either way. Well this to me is a case of whistleblowing Plain and simple, no more than that. He doesn't name names of agents or anything like that he's a couple of illegal programs that were being instituted. He does mention that the corporations are in bed with the CIA or the NSA I'm sorry and uh... i don't see where what this has to do with treason because it got nothing to do with an enemy. Right. Unless you consider the American, what he is doing is what we see I think has been begun probably during

1:40:19 I'd say the Bush administration, second one. The enemy is the American public and so what Woolsey's doing is expressing that exact same thought because if it's treason then the American public is the enemy that's what he's saying and I believe that's what he thinks and I think a lot of these guys in government right now all think that the American public is the enemy. And we've talked about this on the show endlessly. Well, we are not only that were the enemy and were armed that's even worse! Yeah, that's why you gotta take the guns away. Oh well speaking of that did you see the president at United Nations? No. Yeah, you know I had a really...I had that little...didn't have that little clip? No! I got the little clip. Okay the little clip is the great clip. This is him as president of our United States for his last speech selling us out His last hurrah But we have to put our money where our mouths are and we can only realize the promise this institution's founding To replace the ravages of war with cooperation if powerful nations

1:41:24 like my own, accept constraints. Aha! Sometimes I'm criticized in my own country for professing a belief in international norms and multilateral institutions but I am convinced that in the long run giving up some freedom of action Not giving up. I like the freedom of action, that's a really nice phrase some freedom of action. It is good phrase what it means is sovereignty yes in other words you rule your own country for we have freedom of action to take make laws and enforce them the way we want to but we should give that up give up our sovereignty and just give it over to the United Nations or some other body that's run by the elites of the world international norms

1:42:06 multilateral institutions but I am convinced that in the long run giving up some freedom of action not giving up our ability to protect ourselves or pursue our core interests but binding ourselves to international rules over the long term enhances our security thanks Obama yeah new world order hello that is the most telling speech he's ever given only 44 seconds Yeah, it's all it takes. Doesn't take much to sell out your own country. Unbelievable! Because there is better... Again the reason of course is to protect the wealthy so nobody steals their stuff. Yeah man don't steal my shit! And you know they had head chopping that went on in the French Revolution that was no good what was it 40 thousand people we finally figured out how to get our heads chopped off? Which they created the guillotine as an automation process. Yeah gotta get this going move move move move Fantastic

1:43:04 So, you know the rich are always the wealthy. Yeah they're real wealthy not to you know a guy worth 10 million bucks that's nothing yeah the guys worth billions and and the people that have the power they might not be worth billions but they got billionaire power They really want to get us out of this these systems that are like dangerous to them No good only to them. You know good before you know We got a brexit So before you know it, we got WTO which is changing the laws of this country. Our sovereign laws are being changed by the WTO there's a new court system the ISDS I think is the name of it that is changing the laws of our sovereign nation uh these two TTIP and the other one yeah you know these these two

1:43:49 Treaty deals are designed to change the laws and make it so corporations really run everything. You know, I guess it's a horrible situation Nobody really has a grasp on it actually realized yesterday as listening to some reports That the Paris climate accord that that actually is a covert Trade agreement. That's really what it is You know, the whole idea is... Well if you remember we've gone to these years ago. We used to look at some of these climate deals and a lot of them and they were complained about in public had all kinds of sovereignty issues where you had to give up this, you have to give that your nation can't do this and can't do that it had nothing to do with climate now worse you then get to a point where money is being sent to poor nations I'll just say the continent of Africa

1:44:40 And that money will then be used to buy American products mainly, I would presume. Not yet but not necessarily and that money that goes there is not the money of the rich and wealthy. No it's this slubs like us. You are listening at this? The slobs fantastic Obama good work wow when i heard that was like oh my god! I know people think this is good He just basically wants to turn the United States of America, turn it over to an international tribunal. Yeah, of course. Just a quick... This is why everyone's so upset you can see when people took sides on Brexit

1:45:26 The Brexit people got a clue eventually, figuring out that wait a minute. Why are the laws for our country being formulated and just cranked out by them? By the thousands of unelected leaders in Brussels! It's not even if it is Belgians and other kinds of... They're not even Englishmen My God its Belgians I tell you this crazy! They got a clue figuring it. This is an unbelievable loss of sovereignty and that's what has been going on It's like a major trend the European Union is part of it The those trans-pacific deals the WTO all these things are part of it is to take our sovereignty away We don't they don't want us to be at United States of America anymore. Yeah, we've gone beyond that. We don't need that We need international agreements in tribunals and let other people tell us what to do

1:46:13 Exactly. That's what he said! Now you brought up Brexit, this is now coming into the lexicon as we get closer to the first debate CNBC Financial Channel At first glance the US presidential election and UK referendum to leave the European Union appeared very different but analysts warn that two events could share some of the same parallels The UK voted to leave EU in June Following the decision, commentators noted those in power and urban citizens underestimated the strength of public sentiment. Experts say a similar event could take place in November elections where a member of US political establishment Hillary Clinton is being challenged by outspoken populist and politically incorrect Donald Trump. The bottom line? Brexit could be a warning sign for America. Interesting...interesting Not quite sure what they want to say but

1:45:26 The Brexit people got a clue eventually, figuring out that wait a minute. Why are the laws for our country being formulated and just cranked out by them? By the thousands of unelected leaders in Brussels! It's not even if it is Belgians and other kinds of... They're not even Englishmen My God its Belgians I tell you this crazy! They got a clue figuring it. This is an unbelievable loss of sovereignty and that's what has been going on It's like a major trend the European Union is part of it The those trans-pacific deals the WTO all these things are part of it is to take our sovereignty away We don't they don't want us to be at United States of America anymore. Yeah, we've gone beyond that. We don't need that We need international agreements in tribunals and let other people tell us what to do

1:46:13 Exactly. That's what he said! Now you brought up Brexit, this is now coming into the lexicon as we get closer to the first debate CNBC Financial Channel At first glance the US presidential election and UK referendum to leave the European Union appeared very different but analysts warn that two events could share some of the same parallels The UK voted to leave EU in June Following the decision, commentators noted those in power and urban citizens underestimated the strength of public sentiment. Experts say a similar event could take place in November elections where a member of US political establishment Hillary Clinton is being challenged by outspoken populist and politically incorrect Donald Trump. The bottom line? Brexit could be a warning sign for America. Interesting...interesting Not quite sure what they want to say but

1:47:05 Why did it have to describe Trump as politically incorrect? I know. What does it have to do with that report? Nothing! It's CNBC, that's why. Now Brit Hume over on Fox he... this is great He brought up something very important what was the number one mistake of the Brexit we were on for weeks and weeks The bookies. What was it? The bookies The bookies got it wrong. Oh, the bookies... Right! The bookies got it wrong which is very unusual. ...him now trailing Hillary Clinton by less than a point in a two-way race and a CBS poll of 13 battleground states shows that candidates tied the betting odds meanwhile continue to favor Mrs. Clinton by more than 2 to 1. There you are, 2 to 1 how could they possibly be wrong?

1:47:53 They're very rarely wrong unless they're trying to, you know, the betting for these sorts of things. You take the kind of like I don't know what it's called is not the vague but there's something in the middle. Often the odds especially Vegas style betting is a you put the odds in that way that you get more bets And you get a piece of the bets and they lose it. It's just Not necessary, you don't necessarily lose anything if it goes the other way well That's why your bookie yeah, you know that's right never lose anything here a book You know what you're doing now of course? Yeah, you know what you're doing of course Just one since we just discussed snowed in a minute ago I want to definitely play This small clip this is what this is the funniest thing I think there's the funniest thing happened this week

1:48:46 The Washington Post comes out and says Snowden should be hanged just like the other guy. This is WAP on DN. And The Washington Post's editorial board is calling for NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden to face criminal charges. In an editorial published Saturday, the Post called on Snowden to return to the United States to face charges under the Espionage Act or to bargain for, quote, a measure of criminal responsibility for his excesses," end quote. A team of The Washington Post reporters won a Pulitzer Prize in 2014 for covering NSA spying revealed in documents leaked to The Post by Edward Snowden.

1:49:30 Hmm now everybody's up in arms about this Glenn Greenwald has got a nice piece about it Everybody's irked because the war in fact listen to this. This is the what I destroy don't normally watch good Because the guy can't be concise, but this is watching The Hawks on Wapow get ready to break out of the black suits and the black veils Hawk Watchers because it's time to join the funeral procession and mourn the loss of that once great bastion of journalism The Washington Post. For those of you that have yet, have not yet heard the news, the Washington Post's integrity died over the weekend from a massive overdose of self-inflicted hypocrisy. Hot off the presses on Saturday, the Washpo editorial board clearly taking a cue from those cowards sitting on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence called

1:50:18 called for the prosecution of former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, while denouncing the recent worldwide efforts to secure him a pardon from U.S President Barack Obama before he leaves office this January. The editorial board wrote whether Mr. Snowden deserves a presidential pardon as human rights organizations are demanding is a complicated question however to which President Obama's answer should continue to be no This is really rather incredible stance to take, especially when the Washington Post itself greatly benefited from their own publishing of Mr. Snowden's leaks not only in clicks buys and subscription dollars but also in winning one of these single biggest and most prestigious awards a news outlet can possibly receive

1:51:07 He goes on and on. Now, this is very hypocritical I mean this is like burning a source for all practical purposes even though we all know Snowden did what he did but why would the paper which got a Pulitzer for their using his material All of a sudden turn on him like this when nobody else has. In fact, the New York Times hasn't none of these other guys who benefited have for sure. The only coincidence I see there's two possibilities. I can't find out whether Amazon is behind the Snowden movie That would be so it's just promotional publicity stunt for the movie or is interesting because the Snowden revelations began in 2012 Jeff Bezos later in 2013 bought the paper and that would be a change of heart once he got control of it. It would be Bezos

1:51:57 Bezos is the one that had this editorial written because he's the one that runs the paper so and it wouldn't have been written before Bezos got in there from what I can tell, the way things operate. So Bezos is just a bad guy Although he was loved at the Emmys Yes He was he was loved by the lesbians at the Emmys. This is true Jill Soloway Jill Soloway. I hope you have Jill Soloway's clip? I have Jill Soloway's clip, of course I do! Did you have what's-his-name's clip the black actor who holds up his fist and says out with Obama in with Hillary no okay sorry well i just said it that's what he did great clip it would have been clip of the day if it wasn't you

1:52:41 Yeah, well. Jill Soloway is the director of... I can still get it. Was it Transparent? I think it was Transparent. Transparent yeah she's the director. Which is a show that I like! I like the show. Yeah I've never liked this show. I found it hard to tell you guys because if its directing and by the way since we're gonna go into the Emmys here's something I noticed just as a pre-thought did you notice there were an Outrageous number of award categories for directors. Directors of the best episode of this, directors of the best sitcoms, directors of the best one-time show, directors of a single episode, directors of a miniseries, directors of this... It was directors, directors, directors! Yeah Why? What are all these director of a TV show compared to a director of a movie it's not like the same thing I don't have an answer for you

1:53:40 It was, I'd never heard so many. And by the way, I'll mention this there is something known as the Directors Guild Awards where they hand out directors awards like there's no tomorrow? I just thought it was ridiculous they had so many awards for directors Well this director got an award And she said a number of things and Tina and I were watching together. She said a couple of things that were odd, but then when she wound it up was like well okay that's not good so i'm not going to watch that show anymore Here she is first of course thanking the man who we just talked about People ask me if its hard to be a director? And I tell them No! Life is very hard Being a good partner being a good mother

1:54:32 Being a good person is hard. Being a director's soul just make my dreams come true It's a privilege and it also creates privilege when you take women, people of color trans people queer people and put them at the center of the story the subjects instead of the objects. You change the world, we found out! That's irritated me first. What do you mean you changed the world? I don't know that he changed anything It's a TV show! It's a show! It's a TV show on cable No it's not even on cable it's on Netflix. It's on Amazon. It's paid for by Amazon. It's on Amazon. It's just lowest rung We found out

1:55:26 I want to thank you, my sweet Jeff Bezos because you changed the world. And you invited me to do this thing that these people call television but i call a revolution. I like that yeah that's a good point it is TV or something else? Fair point! I've always wanted to be part of a movement civil rights movement feminist movement This tv show allows me to take my dreams about unlikable Jewish people queer folks trans folk and make them the heroes. Thank you to the trans community for your lived lives We need to stop violence against transgender women And topple the pages Okay, so first of all Transgendered women I have to just try and understand

1:56:23 Does she mean women who have transgendered to men or does she mean men who have transgendered to women? I would think it would be men who Transgendered two women only why well, I'm now I think that based on her and her attitude and her show She's what the main part of the show is about a guy. What turned to a woman is she by a lot Yeah But wait, and I believe her father did that if she biologically a man or male or female I believe she is a female and she was married for awhile now, she's with a woman who looks like a guy. Exactly actually. Who is older and he looks like an old man but he's a woman Yeah And she decided to become lesbian Okay That's when...I have some clips of her backstage Hold on, hold on, let me finish this up That was obviously exclusionary Totally But then topple the patriarchy while she's there looking like a dude What do you? I don't understand

1:57:30 She looks like a guy, she looks like a young man. She's 50 by the way. She lives as a man I presume and that's her choice great but then topple the patriarchy what does that mean? I felt insulted! There you are... Insulting commentary. There is plenty of women who are winning great awards but topple the patriarchy?! I guess the patriarchy is the white men world Is that what it is? Yeah I think its just you Topple the Patriarchy War on men what it is. So we're on men Yeah, she's a man hater now I found her very very did I didn't like her no she was backstage and she gave a bunch of She talking continued this conversation with the great Oh you got this oh This is great with less of a screechy voice okay? And she sounded little more now like a 50 year old woman

1:58:28 And this is her first comment when she comes out, when they first... This is a press conference. She's standing there with Jeffrey Tambor who has been apparently debauled and more of the character you used to see on The Larry Sanders Show it seems to me and here's what she says to begin with Yeah I think for us the depth of what we were doing just felt so amazing Obviously we're trying to do a comedy and family comedy but in season two we follow the Pfeffermann back to Germany, to Berlin right before the Holocaust. And we try to tell a story about the Women's Music Festival where there were people who were weighing in as to whether or not somebody was a woman or not and we tried to relate it to the story of the Holocaust when people were trying to weigh in whether or not somebody was a human being

1:59:12 And we feel like it's so incredibly timely the notion of otherizing people as a way to gain political power So Jews were authorized in Nazi Germany to gain political power for Hitler and right now Donald Trump is doing the same thing Okay, I have a nice combo here check this out top on the Patriot Get out of my vagina! Yeah, how's that? Okay. She goes on and kind of clarifies... if you listen to the... she actually wrote these words down and she's a lot of non-sequitur so it doesn't really make a lot of sense I don't even know what she's talking about to be honest about it

1:59:56 But except that, you know, top of the patriarchy men suck and Donald Trump's a fascist Nazi. He's Hitler! Yeah, Hitler. And so she goes on with it and finishes this up... He's otherizing people. Otherwise he calls women pigs if they don't look like beauty pageant contestants He blames Muslims and Mexicans for our problems. He makes fun of disabled people This is Otherizing with a capital O It has been used in our history before to start and win wars And he needs to be called out at every chance he gets for being one of the most dangerous monsters, to ever approach our lifetimes. He's a complete dangerous monster and any moment that I have to call Trump out for being an inheritor to Hitler, I will. Inherited to Hitler? Oh nice!

2:00:46 Yeah, there's no name-calling going on that side of the aisle. None! No. And so she also says... Inheritor to Hitler? That's fantastic. Inheritor to Hitler. Fantastic. I'll give her a point for that. She also makes the comment he blames Mexicans and Muslims for all our troubles He blames trade agreements for our troubles. He doesn't blame them for our troubles Which is you know she can take it any way she wants but This is the extreme, this is why Dr. Drew to bring it back knows better than to go on The Adam Carolla Show because this woman is more typical of what's going on in our culture wars at that level than anyone else Meanwhile you think Tambor would say something about this unbelievable invective

2:01:31 And good word. Good word, invective. I like what he says by the way dido dido on everything you said Oh pussy What a cop out yeah just Dito? I say just Dito Ditto Ditto Ditto and Ditto Dittos times three Yeah So that's the war on men actually the war on man is spreading to a candidate via Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made that very clear. Poverty is sexist! Our societies cannot succeed without the full participation and empowerment of women and girls. So poverty is sexist? It's only about... Poverty is sexist?! Uh-huh Wow I know, I know

2:02:31 He's such a sock. You know, it's like a woolly sock. The Canadian should be embarrassed by that guy. However the Canadians do have my new hero. Who might that be? This is a guy who smuggled $180,000 dollars now its dollar-ettes so its Canadian dollars which is... I don't know, 50 bucks these days? No 75 cents smuggled $180,000 worth of gold. He worked at the Royal Canadian Mint and this is a very interesting case. Hey there I'm John Brown This story is one of those where I really don't even want to read the comments section because in this particular case an employee at the Royal Canadian Mint is accused of smuggling about two hundred thousand dollars worth of gold out of the mint So where did he smuggle it?

2:03:19 Lester Lawrence is accused of transporting several cookie-sized gold pieces called pucks out of the mint and then selling them to a gold buyer. The dealings allegedly netted him almost $180,000 over the course of just few months Now he was able to sneak out the gold by hiding those pucks in his rear end Investigators say when they started looking into this case, they found a tub of Vaseline in his locker and they started putting the pieces together. Now during testimony it was revealed Lawrence set off metal detectors at work but they never seemed to find anything on him so now the case is working its way through the system The court will not reach a decision in the case until about November they say and it's important to remember that Lawrence has not been convicted of the crime but the defense claims the Mint isn't even sure that any gold is missing right now

2:04:07 But you have quite a case here. Somebody was selling some gold, somebody had Vaseline in their locker and they put the pieces together And here is the kicker of the story Also interesting to note the name of the judge in this particular case It is Justice Peter Doody Can't make it up! Can't make it up! Yeah he can't make it up I know you were hoping for something with that but no Nooo...no-no-no If I wanted to get anything from ya' I'd play the latest Manning clip I got Okay, oh you mean you have... well let's save that to the end. Because I want to hear that later. Alright. Hey do you want to do your bit? Are we ready for the bid or what do you wanna do?

2:04:45 The bit to Miss America? Yes! I've been waiting with bated breath for a week. Okay, let's do it. Alright everybody this is no agenda speciality This is John's Beat 100% the odd occurrence of a beauty pageant on big network television in America which is never deemed as misogynist or hateful or any of these things or objectifying women and it is always politicized And this is the second year, I believe with no Trump involvement on this program. No no he's never been involved with Miss America ever. Yeah you're right, Miss USA and Miss Universe, I'm sorry. Right. You're right. And this is ABC? They make a... yes, I believe so. Okay

2:05:29 They make a huge point out of mentioning that Trump has nothing to do with it and there's no ogre running it. But the entire event, just in general... I have a lot of clips but they're short little clips. The entire even was anti-Trump to an extreme to the point where well let's play the winner clip this is Miss America. I didn't think was the prettiest

2:06:16 No, but I think she was the most pleasant. She's a good winner. I don't have a lot of objections with the final five or six just to discuss this from an objective perspective because we usually grouse about these competitions I thought the whole field was good, unlike last year. I thought everybody was attractive and they were all pleasant She had a really nice smile she wasn't the best but she comes from Arkansas which is a plus since Hillary's running for president Yes, yes A little subtle touch And...she was a dancer as her performance she was a dancer and i have to say

2:06:59 She's a good dancer. I mean, there was half of them were dancers and half of them were singers and most couldn't sing in fact here is an example one of the singer sang God Bless America and that would be listed on here. Singing God bless America heres Hannah Brewer Miss Maryland Yes, I made it stop quick. Yeah, I can't sing no most of these women because you watch the voice Too often and yes to watch the analysis they do and they're saying These singers they need to go on The Voice because they need help yeah, they did singers all sucked someone needs a damn the truth oh

2:07:50 The dancers stink, except I have to say Miss Arkansas had a very she was really good. She did kind of a modern thing it was very good and she had a nice smile on her face. She's got Broadway written all over her as a couple of the others do so really obvious there kind of doing a Broadway thing. And I think they had potential as dancers, not as the singers that's for sure and so Miss Arkansas won for that because one of the ones up there we both talked about this even though in one of our after show things about Miss Texas who was beautiful tall very statuesque and kinda had some issues with her having a big nose and little too tan for my taste but she was very personable she gave good answers and nice smile she is beautiful

2:08:36 Her talent was baton twirling. That's my favorite! I don't know if there has ever been a Miss America, maybe one of the ones in the 50s that won with baton twirling as their talent Well, I remember a lot of baton twirling that's for sure well they used to be like a big skill and big talent Well, it's still a hard thing to do but if she'd done juggling or anything else yeah knife-throwing Firey nice throwing good fire eating. Yeah. Yeah fire eating I think that would go with that you need to combine America's Got Talent with Miss America You get that yes exactly Now there was the thing they also did is that they had like they're gonna ask a question and

2:09:25 of seven people and they put ten people up there so there's three people left standing, they're like idiots. Yeah this was a new... Was this new? I hadn't seen this uh.. Yes! Because i did watch the show yeah okay It was very humiliating Here is an example of the consolation prize This is called Miss A.M. Consolation Weirdness I want to set this up They had all the people come out to do the talent And they left two losers on the bench and told Ashton talk with them a little bit afterwards The worst part of it was the one girl that was sitting there, Miss... It'll say in the clip. I think maybe it's Ms. Marilyn. No, wasn't Ms. Marilyn she'd sang. It was Miss Kentucky. She was sitting there and she was dolled up beautiful girl and she had an electric violin in her lap!

2:10:14 And she was going to do some Kentucky-style electric violining up there. Nobody had anything like that! It was all singing and dancing, it was... I want to hear somebody play the violin, electric violin maybe she sucked? I don't know but i don't think so because she got that far but say this letter standing there and here's what it sounds like at the end when he goes over and talks to the two losers I'm here with Miss Kentucky and Miss Oklahoma. Unfortunately, ladies you won't be moving on in the competition What were you gonna perform? I was gonna perform Smooth Criminal by Michael Jackson Michael Jackson our loss miss Oklahoma Congratulations! You represented your state Oh wow i would have liked to have seen that that would have been great

2:10:51 Yes, I was that was hoping to see it because you know and I like these kinds of Performances where somebody's playing something odd like the electric violin But God knows what kind of yeah. No and a woman playing a string instrument is always kind of sexy The funny thing is there was so, you know besides the baton twirler and some of the other people that couldn't dance or sing it would have had to at least been better than that. But oh that's okay she's done she's out. So then we got of course this thing went down everybody looked good in a bathing suit it was actually kind of interesting say the least and they wish really did their overall

2:11:28 picks from all the states was way up. Now I agree with that and the talent, I would say it was way down there. So I didn't remember anyone playing the piano for example or doing something out of think electric violin would have been the most interesting. I might've missed a piano thing so anyway I always do this thing because when I do these reports I start with the winner and then go back to the beginning watch what I can watch see how she got to the top right? And so we had this question thing Every question was politically charged and worst as they were not written by any of the judges. Oh, okay judge there And they say that with this is the opening other thing This is the Miss America first question with the backgrounder

2:12:12 Okay, here we go. The questions are in random order the judges questions have been provided to each of them by the Miss America organization The final questions count 20% of the overall score the winner could be determined right here right now So there are seven balls inside of this bowl and each one has a name of a judge on it so as your name is called you You pick a ball and that judge will ask their question. We'll have exactly 20 seconds to answer. Alright, ladies you ready? Good luck here we go! The first question moving on is Miss South Carolina Rachel Wyatt. Rachel grab the ball and the judge there you go

2:12:58 Charlene Wells Hawks, your question please. The immigration debate rages on building a wall along the Mexico border establishing sanctuary cities deporting 11 million undocumented people do you believe our country has an immigration problem? Yeah we certainly do and I myself am a quarter Japanese my great-grandfather really is a nation built on immigrants and so this is an issue that we have to come to our resolution on, and be welcoming to others to come into this nation of freedom. Alright Joel! Alright screw Trump nice there's one there's one screw Trumper That's the one now we can go with these are all quick now I just have little bitty mini clips or just a question and the answer it turns out that the questions always politically

2:13:45 slanted, anti-Trump I would say generally and very strong. There's no question about the email scandal and they had...and the girls have to say or the young women who are if anyone is out there sensitive, Did a great job of skirting every one of these questions Nobody it was like it was like they never answered the question really. They just kind of skirted him Let's start with Miss Maryland Journalists are calling out Matt Lauer for aggressively grilling Hillary Clinton while letting Donald Trump slide Others are declaring a liberal media bias How would you grade the media on their election coverage? I think it's been very bad. I think has been very equal to both parties I think both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton have received a lot of criticism for the way that they're going about this

2:14:40 this campaign and I think it's absolutely ridiculous. I think that we need to support both of these people, they're trying to make our country a better place and i support them both." Did she say we'd better should deport both of these people? What I heard her say was bias and then she corrected herself... deport these people. Journalists are calling out Matt Lauer for aggressively grilling Hillary Clinton while letting Donald Trump slide, others are declaring a liberal media bias how would you grade the media on their election coverage? I think it's been very equal to both parties. I think both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton have received a lot of criticism for the way that they're going about this campaign, and i think is absolutely ridiculous! I think that we need support both of these people. They are trying to make our country better. And I said support not deport... But of course she answered the question in the wrong way. Ms Maryland you can never win. You have to say yeah Donald Trump sucks

2:15:38 Yeah, that's what you have to do. So let's go to Miss Washington. Sorry? I said goodbye! You can't win if you don't ask the right question. Wrong answer. She didn't win. No. Let's go to Miss Washington. Mr Mark Cuban. I didn't do them all by the way. I'm sorry? I didn't do them all because it was a TV show but these are short ones. Only good ones. Mr Mark Cuban 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick has ignited a national debate by refusing to stand for the national anthem in protest of racial inequality and police brutality. Do you sit with him or stand against him? The first thing I want to say is we need to focus on how important the Black Lives Matter issue is, all lives matter in this situation. I don't necessarily support the fact that he sat out but I do respect that he took a knee and

2:16:28 people are joining in because we need to focus on the resolution to this problem and we need to come together as a nation, to have everyone feel equal in our society. So that was a no answer thing. Now they say, oh let's do one more and then I'll get to the end this is Miss Mississippi. Miss America 1989 Gretchen Carlson just accepted a 20 million dollar settlement from Fox News for her sexual harassment suit against Roger Ailes. Fox paid, Ailes walked what message does this send? This sends a message that

2:17:05 We have so much further to go with equality in the workforce Women are just as equal as men in the workforce, and I think it's 2016 guys And have you quality in the workforce and we start focusing on that It's gonna be great. It's gonna be great very much Yeah, okay, so she's an idiot now We have the last two I have here. The first one is Miss New York, now they say these questions are random but they...I don't know what they meant they made me hit the balls around because these questions were not random. No of course not! Because this next question is to the is to miss New York it's about Trump

2:17:45 The question to Miss Arkansas is about Hillary. Oh my goodness! Does anyone see any kind of like maybe this bull crap that they said? Let me think... oh gosh, good catch. So here's the one yes and here's the one about Trump and this is to me- This is a question it's kind of a demand It's not really a question. Miss New York! Camille Sims! Congratulations pick a judge Laura Marano, your question please. Donald J Trump what do you think of him? You have 20 seconds go. I think that he's a bright reminder of how our country needs to come together if you don't agree with his message then it's time to decide where you stand in this debate as Americans we need to make sure that we come together represent what it means to be American which is celebrating all people from all backgrounds whether you're an immigrant Native American or African-American

2:18:50 Asian-American. Give her the hook! Thank you very much, give her the hook No, you can't win wrong answer no and she didn't know of course it was rigged The whole thing is rigged I think was right from beginning i think was rigged to give them as Arkansas on these questions were rigged To give this specific candidates this thing was And it was so in the bag for Hillary I mean this next question is about Hillary but It's just the same kind of like the Trump question But you could just see the slant just oozing from this event even though I don't think the women played along that well because they weren't coached. They should have been maybe coached so they get better answers, these answers are all lame and it accounted for 20% of the score! So let's go to Miss... This is a last clip this is Miss Arkansas and how she got she actually ran overtime when they had to cut her off Hillary Rodham Clinton what do you think?

2:19:46 leader of the free world, everything you say and do matters. And all of your actions are held to a higher standard." Unfortunately the media does love to sensationalize everything and it's hard to tell what is truth and what is truly scandal I think going back at my previous contestant said both these candidates have done great job in competing but they also need to watch their doing and 20 seconds good job thank you All right, thank you very much. Yeah I know so besides the obvious political nature of the question for Miss Arkansas no less she got cut off and so her answer was incomplete and yet she wins

2:20:24 Yes. Hmm, yes I should have been disqualifying yeah what is the voting mechanism who determines this? They got some...I don't know some guy that's produces the show decides i have no idea they supposedly vote these people in the little group of judges Was there telephone voting? No. No, no there's none of that stuff That doesn't work. So I was a piece of crap as usual and that's why probably wasn't rushing to do this report, but you know what? I have to say they've made some improvements is a little nicer presentation that shows way too long. They have too much filler material in there at the beginning they have all these stupid... The girl comes out says, I'm from Sydney make some pun about their state

2:21:08 And then, which we talked about the last time we did this show. They started doing that and then they just spend too much time fooling around and not really getting to the competition I think this should be banned That's my show! I do not like this show Yeah, i'm against it all together It's women unfriendly, objectifying women, misogynistic There is no reason for this show Well, the reason for this show is if there is a reason it's for some of the girls women that come on the show to do a little mini audition for Broadway play. And this was ABC and probably ABC isn't I believe it? Yeah well they have those live plays on television so as it is kind like an audition process for their own TV show. Well something like that

2:21:54 They will have, we continue to report on this. There's five of these events a year. There's Miss USA, Miss World, Miss Universe, Miss America. Those are the big four I guess and then there's Miss USA, Miss America right? That'd be five or four whatever it doesn't make any difference. I can just assume miss these things but I remember when i was a kid they used to have these competitions and the questions would always be what do you think of the world hunger? World hunger. And the answer is always, I'm saving aluminum foil to help the poor children in Africa. Remember we had to save aluminum foil yeah what was that about why did how did that help it was a carryover from World War II I think huh

2:22:44 I remember that specifically. We had to save aluminum foil Anyway, Miss Arkansas is pretty and she's charming and she has a nice smile She's smiling all the time She is not the best looking of all those women But she is definitely a Miss America type And she can dance John, I want to thank you. Thank you for your courage of course for that it's always only this part...I think the only media program in the world that deconstructs pageants and i'm proud of it. Well, apparently the threat of doing that particular segment brought the donations way down. But we do have a few people to thank starting with Bruce Salkovitz in Doylestown, Pennsylvania with $100 Nathan Brookfield's got a birthday coming up or somebody does 99 dollars and 90 who is in Australia Penrith VK2 NAB 73s

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2:29:39 You know, all these interviews. The new book by Simon & Schuster... Simon and Schuster is a subsidiary of CBS. Oh! I didn't realize that. Okay so the promo tour is fixed? Yeah and the funny thing was there were some revelations that I thought was interesting because we talk about cognitive dissonance We know that Springsteen is an all-in for Hillary type guy And he's all you know... Which feels so wrong to me It feels so wrong. Why do you think? I think he's got so much cognitive dissonance that he caused himself a bout of depression because i think that's what some of this does to you, I think a lot of people who are depressed or they're just not getting the right kind of information

2:30:25 understand the world because they got other things to do besides, you know doing the kind of clipage that we do. But let's play Springsteen a little part in his interview on CBS. Take your vocal cords and tie them off one side guy gets in there with some titanium and some little tools and they build just new discs They seal you back up again it takes about three months before you can sing That is the nerve-wracking part, you know? Jeez he sounds so much like Bon Jovi It's crazy! I should say Bon Jovi sounds like him, man. Yeah and it takes about three months before you can sing that's the nerve-wracking part you know? More worrying for Springsteen was the attack of depression that hit him in his early 60s Do you see it coming do you feel it coming not really you know It sneaks up on you During the day I couldn't find a comfortable place to sit or stand...I couldn't find any place to be You just don't like being

2:31:22 It's fraught with too much confusion and despair, and you got a lot of bad thoughts. And it lasted for a long time. My 60s would last for a year and then it would slip away then it would come back for a year-and-a-half. Springsteen says therapy and antidepressants gave him his life back Wow Okay, I'm gonna give you a clip of the day for that. I had no idea this was going on! Holy crap! I have a direct line to Springsteen and we got to get him to listen to this show We gotta save the boss man This is no good Yeah, I think it'd benefit from this show Yes Oh that makes me sad Damnit Well, I have a possible solution for him And this is a solution that has been introduced at colleges all over the country

2:32:17 As you know, children of course are...you know they have lots of problems. They're triggered by all kinds of things. Oh the triggering! So what and we've talked about this phenomenon not too long ago What do you think colleges are doing around the country to help the children calm down so that they can get back in touch with themselves and not be upset? Boxing classes While I'm coloring, it's very like a focused energy that I'm able to tune out everything else which is the very kind of calm and relaxing state to be in. They're great way to release stress mainly because it's engaging, its structured and it's portable You're very calm and relaxed you don't really have anything to think about other than picking the next color It's something that takes awhile

2:33:12 so it gets your mind away from the real life. Basically we had coloring sheets out for residents to choose from, we had organized this because we'd seen that coloring really does impact the way people can relax and it can bring down stress levels not do they only create art they were able to connect with other people I used to be really embarrassed when I colored cause I thought was kind of weird but then whenever I would say it other people are like oh my god I do it too! I love doing it There you go Coloring. Coloring books in college? Yes! Holy mackerel, this is worse than I thought. And they're all happy Oh yeah It does seem to be more a female thing than a male thing the coloring books it appears Yeah But i found that to be sad Sad Just sad man That's really pathetic

2:34:13 I mean, take an art class if you want to do that sort of thing. I mean, you're beyond coloring books. Coloring books are for little kids with crayons. Yeah but yeah... You can make a big... There's adult coloring books we know about that and we've seen them in there all over the place. These are all adults? They use a pile of pencils or whatever you have for with the system entails. But if you want to do, you know, if you're interested in color, this is supposed coloring books are supposed to be a step toward for little kids and a step towards something creative. There's nothing creative by the way. Well yeah, you can use the blue next to the yellow I suppose that's kind of creative because you have to make decisions but that's mostly decision making it's not creating and so they're taking creativity out of the schools. That's what this is evidence of

2:35:01 They don't want people creating works of fiction. They don't want people drawing something spectacular, they don't learn the skills of art... Drawing skills are very hard to come by. But it is true that Mimi does it, Jay does it, Tina's done it? Yeah, well yeah, Jay doesn't do it much she actually makes art and she's good at it and Mimi does make makes art to she's a little sculpture. She makes these little things there. Oh, I'm smelling a premium for our nights Maybe crank enough of these little guys out little heads The the art scream yes, yeah, I know Sweden Denmark one of these great piece and

2:35:53 Well that head the guys got his head he's screaming. He's got his hands or as you know inside of his face like Macaulay Culkin yeah, she does those heads Only they're small small heads. Yeah, they're small there about I'd say about an inch high at the most I love that and so they'll be a string of them I think this is saying something about what she thinks about things. Hey, she should make heads of us! One good... No, she doesn't... Yeah, she could but one of the things that was very artsy, she had to take a big jelly jar and fill it with those heads as little screaming heads. Something very artistic about that. A jar full of screaming heads Now that you bring up art and artistic nature

2:36:40 I did not know that the art world is collapsing. Is it now? Yes, I have here art dealer and collector Niels Kantor paid $100,000 two years ago for an abstract canvas by Hugh Scott Douglas with the idea of quickly reselling it for a tidy profit instead he is returning the 28 year old's artist work to the market this week at an 80% discount He went from 100 grand to 20 thousand dollars And according to this article, all of the big auction houses are starting to ratchet prices down. That's a big collapse by the way. Well that is a big collapse and I have stuff i wanted to sell... Maybe it's time now to buy? Not that I have $20 000 dollars but- The art market is flaky and it goes up and down and its not as kind of contrarian to some extent

2:37:33 It's not, it doesn't follow the normal cycles. I mean if the whole economy goes to the toilet yes the art market will go down a bit but sometimes i've seen market downturns and the art market goes up and becomes like oh what can we invest in that's a good idea then you invest in art? I think that's dumb personally because I think most artists overpriced anyway but at all levels But it just bounces around in an awkward way. So if it's collapsing now, I could go up or could really collapse if the economy goes into the tank which should and that's interesting. I didn't hear that. I've not known this

2:38:10 I know around here everything that is auctionable in the Silicon Valley area with all these rich kids. Right, right, right... It always goes for a premium Well i sent the article to Lex you know he's there collects the Warhols and uh... Right Lichtenstein Yeah and then he knows exactly what's going on so we'll see what he says He would know We'll get that back from him Uh..I just have to open the gate for one quick moment To the gate! To the gate! One of our producers found a pretty interesting little article in New Jersey, and this is how part of the scam is supposed to work.

2:39:00 to install solar arrays. A novel initiative is, however looking to change that this new reduced electric rate program hopes to help New Jersey communities see the sun in a different light with a lower energy bill and here it is using money raised by government incentives and private investors to help fight global warming The Alternative Energy Solar Project goal is to get solar panels on the roofs of those who cannot afford to pay the upfront cash This is very interesting. Why? Because you're giving people gifts! We're taking this money and turning it into solar panels for people. This doesn't seem like a very good idea, it seems like... It sounds like the SolarCity scam and there's a bunch of these companies in California that do this. Exactly. They put the stuff on your roof and then they take all the federal credits and everything Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, this has got to stop

2:40:01 But it can't because yet again, according to ABC News Earth smashes yet another heat record 16 months in a row. I don't know if it was cold here or the solar business. It was cold here. It was not at all that great. I don't see the weather being any different than this ever been around here ever and wait let me take a look how are the mud flats? The mud flats are still there oh my goodness we haven't lost them yet! They should have been gone by now I mean, they do go... you know they get covered by water when there's a super high tide or a high tide. Oh sure but tide is a tide. And then it washes back out and the next thing you know it's same old mudflats Do we need to discuss briefly what's going on with Russia and the ceasefire? You have to close the climate gate. Oh my god! Close it up boys come on close it up! To be revisited at another point in time

2:41:01 All right, do we need to talk about the so-called ceasefire which isn't happening? Well the ceasefire ended. We're the ones that are behind all this and and the thing that bothers me is the Russian Today report on this so called... they blame the Russians Americans blame the Russians for strafing a convoy of relief convoy And then if you listen to the Russian report on this And our reports of, you know just blaming Russia for everything. You know willy-nilly is I think getting to the point where if they Russians do something Yeah, there's got to be some evidence they do screw up or do certain things but it's gonna be like crying wolf Yes, and it's the worst case example Especially with Kerry other Russians directions directions, you know The Russians are you know? yeah, they're on Assad side in that we thats

2:41:55 Good it would good enough for us to blame him for everything, but if you listen to this report is the convoy report mm-hmm from Russia today And we'll play some clips. They had, the Russians had drones following the convoy all the way to the point where they got to the end and then they took off figuring that was just gonna escort the convoys and then there was apparently El Nusra came in it does a way I see it you mean the place? The army of uh... Army of challenge no it was army of Oops, the Army of something. I can't remember now well when you remember we'll know yeah but it's Which i believe is probably what happened because they showed the movies of it army of conquest The army of conquest they didn't have any evidence that there was any bombing no and oh It looks like they were shot from the side

2:42:47 But let's play this and the Russians, and the bastard Russians being responsible. They're saying that neither the Russian Air Force nor the Syrian Air Force carried out any airstrikes against humanitarian aid convoys in the southwest of Aleppo. Instead, the Russian air force actually watched over the humanitarian aid convoy as it moved through Aleppo through territory

2:43:32 controlled by rebels. And they've got interesting footage to show for it, here you can see the convoy apparently parked and driving alongside it is a militant vehicle towing a howitzer just a few hours after this footage was shot Jabhat al-Nusra with Al Qaeda in Syria launched a major offensive in the area complete with tank and artillery support The Russian Air Force stopped watching and pulled back its drones just after the convoy reached its pre-agreed destination. What happened next, the Russians simply don't know but...

2:44:13 And then what would be the point of the Russians blowing this thing up? There's no point. No point whatsoever, there is no point whatsoever and then Kerry comes out I heard him on the radio Oh how can you trust these people they blow up hospitals as soon he says that first thing we think of We get blamed for blowing up hospitals That because we blow up hospitals Doctors Without Borders get attacked by us Somehow the Russian did that now Now Russia today guys think Bull crap misdirection because we had been documented as killing a bunch of Assad's men. Right, yes. We killed 40 of them or something in some air attack that was well-documented and this is supposed to get us everybody off the trail of that

2:44:58 But let's play the next version of this, there is a little more detail. This is Aleppo 2. What they have told us is that the footage apparently released by activists in the immediate aftermath of the attack on this humanitarian aid convoy it's inconsistent with the effects of an air strike An airstrike would, for example have left a crater. We didn't see any of those in the videos It would also have structurally damaged destroyed the vehicles nearby and those vehicles weren't destroyed Charles Shoebridge who's a counter-terrorism and security analyst thinks the video evidence that the Western media is relying upon is questionable Hmm... Of course! Of course it's questionable

2:45:45 You want more? Yeah, yeah. Yes please go to three. The White House has issued a statement saying that all the evidence suggests Russia is responsible for bombing the aid convoy Let me ask you this do you think that this is our military acting on their own which have been known to do or is this a direct call from the White House and Obama administration policy and advisors I think it was El Nusra The Army of Conquest. Which is our guys! Nah, the Army of Conquest is not our guy that I know off. Yeah Al-Nusra we... Of course we say we don't but we do It's Turkey's... Okay, Turkey's Guys let put it that way. Turkey's Guys with our weapons. It's a mess

2:46:31 Well, the whole thing was it was yeah well it's being misreported and this like again this blame to Russia's thing is gonna backfire if they keep this up. It feels to me like it's a setup for war if Hillary gets in hey and we've been rushing them really bad really bad now you're president. Oh yeah just yeah Russia did this let's go after Russian dad they didn't done anything But let's play the last clip and we'll be done with it. That it was hit, now American intelligence is using this to put the blame for this incident on the Russians but it comes even as The United Nations is scaling back on what its said earlier initially It called this an airstrike Now it's calling it to quote an attack So you have The United Nation saying that it cannot be determined And there was no conclusive evidence in terms of what happened on the ground

2:47:21 Even the United Nations is saying they don't know who to blame for this. We heard the same comments being made by an official of the Red Cross, who works on the ground, saying that it is not clear what happened. Okay yeah El Nostra makes total sense but we're behind at all and we are a-holes I don't like that were doing this sucks! This does not make any sense. It's unhealthy. No... I mean, it's going to get us... more people, more Americans are going to end up dead because of these policies. More people in general? What is the point? We've got enough rubbilizing done for...to keep Bechtel and Halliburton busy for the next 20 years. Yeah. I don't know why we're continuing with this. I don't know either but I do know there are moves. We even have Hollywood coming in. Poor George Clooney!

2:48:20 I'm still baffled why he married Amal. Here she is from Channel 4 in the U.K. If there is a prosecution of President Assad, I would be delighted to work on it. I think the UN has concluded that the Syrian government has committed crimes against humanity and war crimes. They're not the only ones. There are other actors who've committed the same crimes but I think there's little doubt that that's what we're dealing with. There you go, got to have a celebrity lawyer to prosecute Assad! We're getting close, getting close to some fun stuff... Yeah, they're gettin there. Oh man, alright. They even brought Clooney in and they keep bringing Clooney in for this and that. They brought him into comment on Brad and Angela Jolies getting divorced which is at the top of the news yeah And Clooney comes in says, I don't know That was it but that's the end of him. That was his whole quote? Pretty much

2:49:14 These things happen. I want to remind everyone the end of show clips that we have, we do not publish those and i want to reiterate why... We don't do that with jingles either everything else you can find all the clips we play and source material all of that's perfectly documented And the reason is other shows take this stuff Don't credit us and use it That's annoying It's annoying So you know that that's uh..that's why we don't do that So I have end of show clips, and the Manning thing if you're still interested. Oh yeah absolutely. Reverend Manning who is a reverend in New York he has a small church, I don't know if he has the church anymore but it's kind of an internet... Yeah I think so. The ATLA whatever it's called.

2:50:03 The Atla Ministries, that's what it is. He first caught our attention in... I must have been the first one? Was that the first? No it was a re-election? Obama's voice in 2008. Oh, you're right his early stuff is when we first picked him like this That's even that would lay it Mac daddy that was back in 2008 2009 That's about Obama he really does not like Obama this black creature from from New York He also does not like homosexuals He really doesn't like homosexuals and he will bring this around to Obama because that's what this guy does

2:50:41 And I'll just, you tell me when you want to stop. I could not help myself. You're gonna have trouble. You may have to stop it on your own because i love this new guy he's a great ranter well this rant is just fantastic and for the record we don't give a shit who you have sex with but this guy is too funny! I got a word from you! I got a word of knowledge, a word of prophecy and I want you preacher to use this word of prophecy ever whether so ever you go that God is going to put a burning God's gonna put a cancer in the butthole. God is going to put a cancer in the butthole of every sodomite, every sodomites butthole everyone that practices sodomy from the day of this message will get cancer in the butthole right there it'll burn and burn and burn

2:51:33 You'll have to, the manufacturers will have to go into manufacturing chairs where people can stand up because they won't be able to sit down. Because of the burning in their butthole every side of that way we'll know it's a satellite because he can't sit down. He can't sit down. He's got a burning and his bottle has gotta fire. He's got a flame coming out of his butthole. He's got a flame. It's got to have special asbestos dye when God gets through with the sodomite this is the word of the Lord. You want more? That's all he talks about yeah well it's gonna tell you he's big he's gonna bring it to Obama here if you want to hear it okay I love this guy, he's so funny This is a prophecy of Almighty GOD

2:52:18 This is the Lord's word. This is the Lord's word and pastor if you are a sodomite God's gonna have a flame coming out of your butthole You're gonna need an asbestos diaper, you better go and pray to God And ask God to hear ya before this word cools down you better ask God to hear you and then you'll tell God I'm gonna preach against every sodomite. I'm gonna preach against the sodomite maker Barack Hussein Obama, son of Satan. Son of Satan! I am a sodomite slayer like James David Manning up there in Harlem New York City. I'm going to become a sodomite slayer otherwise you're going to have a flame coming out your butthole

2:53:03 You know, sometimes your humor is just beyond juvenile. And that is the best... Tell me you didn't laugh! Worst clip of the day Oh wait a minute we have one of those We have that? Yes Was it uh.... was it where I- oh here it is yes I'll take that I'll wear this as a badge of honor That clip sucked No, I was it's entertaining me. It had entertainment value yes well I'm glad we did it at the end of the show yeah, I think I stand by my oh Yeah, no, I have very twisted humor. Yeah, I've heard juvenile is the word Oh juvenile Juvenile all right which is an insult but I don't I'm sorry I take it I wear that with a badge of honor John C. Dvorak

2:53:54 So here is... Oh, I'm sorry. I was already ending the show! You're-I'm ending the show! No no, you gotta keep these clips out of the way We got to end this show John it's too long. You gotta keep it for Sunday. I mean if you want to fine but.. No, I'm good to go. I'm great If this shows already at its limit oh yeah that's right you're right we're at the end Yeah But keep it please Okay, I have a dynamite clip for Sunday Show Maybe And some other said something else I was supposed to do for the Sunday show out there look we always have you think stuff We always have and who knows what will happen between now, and then With the big debate coming up on Monday. You can expect something

2:54:32 Yeah, there's gonna be some action to get the audience for that debate cranked up. Yes it'll probably happen on Sunday as a show day so that's how it goes right? That would be ideal okay not for us but for them thanks to Danny Lewis and UK PMX for end of show clips and thank you for being here thank you free support remember we will have another show coming from Sunday we need that support Dvorak org slash NA And coming to you from the Crackpot Condo in The Skyscraper in downtown Austin, Texas. It's located in FEMA Region 6, in case you're looking for it on the government map In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where the traffic is still jacked up... ...it's really weird today. It's a weird day. We'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda Adios mofos

2:55:35 and full. Will the FBI provide to Congress, the full? Provide Congress all of the 302s? To a handpicked... The 302's? So let's go I've signed this subpoena. I cannot make that commitment sitting here today All of the 302's? All of the 302's? Subpoena! And i'm gonna issue a subpoena And I'm gonna do it with 302s of the 302s. We have all, we want all the 302's so let's go...I've signed this subpoena

2:56:22 We have all of the 302s. Subpoena is great! All of the 302's right? Good issue, a subpoena. 2s to give to us. And it looks great! We want all the 302s. Subpoena So I've signed this. Subpoena The 302. 302s To give to us. And let's go...I've signed this. To give to Subpoena It was great! We want all the three-all the 302s and we would like BOOTED! For those who believe in conspiracy theories, they're still gonna believe in conspiracy theories. For those who believe in conspiracy theories, they're still gonna believe in conspiracy theories. Well if it isn't an issue to me and all of her doctors...

2:57:10 But on more than one occasion over the last many, many years. Does anybody think that they can get away with this? The CBS was called to account and their explanation was it would end for time constraints all through three seconds. Yeah or I might just get him off the hook! That would be a great edit. For those who believe in conspiracy theories, they're still gonna believe in conspiracy theories. In the morning! Woah!

2:58:03 Boy, we have 63 days to go. Kiss my Amen. Fist bump. Adios, mofo.