Episode 86 · Sunday, 5 April 2009

Fat Chicks from Toronto

Global leaders signal a massive shift in financial sovereignty as new legislation threatens internet privacy and private military contractors rebrand their presence in Iraq.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 86

About this episode

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown declared the emergence of a new world order at the G20 summit, signaling a massive shift in global governance. The summit resulted in an $850 billion commitment to the International Monetary Fund and the potential elevation of Special Drawing Rights as a global reserve currency. This financial restructuring coincides with the Cybersecurity Act of 2009, which grants the President an internet kill switch and allows the Secretary of Commerce to bypass existing privacy laws.

Financial expert Bill Black details how elite fraud and Ponzi-like schemes within corporate boardrooms triggered the current economic meltdown. While the Obama administration faces scrutiny over Larry Summers receiving $2.7 million in speaking fees from Goldman Sachs, private security firm Triple Canopy prepares to replace Blackwater in Iraq. Meanwhile, the FBI conducted an unwarranted raid on a Dallas data center, seizing equipment from Core IP Networks and disrupting dozens of businesses. In the technology sector, Research In Motion stock gains are linked to corporate layoffs as fired employees purchase personal BlackBerrys to replace company-issued devices.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak celebrate Dvorak’s birthday while debunking social media age statistics that suggest he is over 100 years old. The duo explores the rise of wine terrorism in France and the curious case of Japanese Patriot missiles allegedly being non-functional props. The episode concludes with a look at the National Ignition Facility's attempt to trigger nuclear fusion using 192 giant lasers.


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CHAPTER 01 / 33 Discussion

John C. Dvorak Birthday, Social Media Age Statistics

Adam Curry celebrates John C. Dvorak's birthday, noting that Skype and Plaxo report his age as 102 or 107. Dvorak explains that users often select the earliest possible birth year on social media platforms like Facebook and MySpace to protect privacy or bypass age restrictions. This behavior leads to skewed statistical analysis where the average user age appears much older than reality.

john c. dvorak· skype· plaxo· facebook· livejournal· age demographics

00:02 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. Making the world a better place through the magic of hooker economics. It's Sunday, April 5th, 2009. This is no agenda. Operating covertly from the Crackpot Command Center in the southwest quadrant of London in Gitmo Nation East, I'm Adam Curry. And from Silicon Valley North, the home of the chip, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Yes, it's April 5th. It's a very special day. Not only is it time for No Agenda number 86, but I want you all to take a moment out of your day because we have to say something very important to my partner in crime here on the program, JC Dvorak. He is the original Buzzkill, and today it is his birthday.

01:01 It's your birthday too? I love Skype man. And I'm presuming that Skype is right because it told me that it's your birthday today. Yeah, Plaxo I think or whatever that other thing is. There's a number of services. I don't know how they get this but of course if you follow it closely you will realize that I'm 102. That's what it says on Skype. No, you're 107 actually I think is what it says. Oh, is it 107? Yeah, because... You know, the thing is, I was talking to somebody about this the other day that, you know, a lot of people, and I started doing it myself, is that when you're given the op, when these services are asking for your age, you find the oldest, you put the right day in, but then you find the oldest thing that's on the menu. You know, like is it 1900, 1901 for your birth date.

01:52 And so you just roll down to the bottom and you just click on that, whatever it is. And I picked up on this noticing that early on on LiveJournal and then MySpace and I suspect on Facebook. All the kids have been doing this. Because you're running into, you know, you see some obviously teenage girls. Oh yeah, of course, you want to be over 18 or 21. Yeah, but they all make themselves 103. So meanwhile, and I pointed this out to somebody the other day, maybe it was Moody or somebody in the office, I said, you know, these people keep doing these statistical analysis of the average age of the users on these social networks and they always come up with something like 40 years old. Because everyone's using 102, 103. Right, and nobody's paying any attention to the fact that these numbers are so bogus. I don't understand how all these older people are using these services. They're not. That's funny. Oh man. Well, of course, everyone knows that you are, what are you today, John?

02:53 Let's see. Let me make the calculation. According to the New York Times, because that of course is the newspaper of record and since they published your birth date it is now set in stone, obviously. Absolutely. Let's see, I always have to figure this out because I don't pay much attention to my own age. I would be born in 52 according to New York Times. Listen, I got the song for you, man. Yeah, what are you... Send a bottle of wine. So, what is the New York Times? I'd be 57. Uh-huh, uh-huh. When I'm 64! Alright. Yeah, well I'm not 64, thank God. So, anyway, enough of that. What's in the news? Well, I just wanted to stay on that for a moment, because in my life in the news, my wife turned 60 on Tuesday.

CHAPTER 02 / 33 Discussion

Anti-Aging Secrets, Healthy Diet and Exercise

A discussion regarding youthful appearances focuses on a specific diet involving high consumption of salmon and home-cooked meals. The conversation highlights the psychological impact of milestone birthdays, such as turning 60, and the preference for avoiding large celebrations. Regular exercise and maintaining a partnership with a younger person are cited as contributing factors to staying fit.

salmon· exercise· healthy eating· aging· skincare

03:52 Mm-hmm. And of course my wife looks well, I obviously like she's 27 Well, I actually tell her 35 because that seems like a really good number and it's in and it's actually could be possible that I mean it he really looks 38 But she doesn't look 60. That's for sure. But and and she knows it and she feels good and you know What does she say the other night said it's fantastic. I have a great husband I've got a wonderful daughter and I have a career but she is so angry about this this number and Well, what is the what I appreciate that so what is her? Secret though to look staying youthful. Yeah, it's looking. Oh, it's what she eats. What's she eat? Well, first of all, you know, she she cooks almost every single night. So she cooks herself doesn't mean we don't you know get takeaways and Pre-process stuff. No, absolutely not. Oh, she loves the meat John trust me. Oh

04:46 And, um, at 60. Where's the rim shot? Yeah, I can give myself a little in the morning there. And it's what she eats obviously, and she eats a lot of salmon, stuff like that. And she exercises, and of course we all know that it's obviously it's me. There's no qualms about it. It's possible. I'm sure it contributes. It's possible that having a person as a partner that's so much younger. Yeah, of course it contributes. No doubt. It keeps you on your toes. But she's really pissed off about this. Is she going to have a big party? Oh no, I'm forbidden. No parties, no nothing. A surprise party? Oh my god, she would divorce me.

05:31 She would absolutely divorce me on the spot and like yeah, and she doesn't she really she doesn't want it She didn't want to see the number 60 so Christina and and Dexter are making it three cakes with 20 on it You know stuff like that. That's how far this goes right? I said do cakes with 35 That would be funny sure that they put 20 candles on each one exactly yeah Oh no, no, no. Not a good idea. The house is on fire. Smoke alarms are going off. What's happening there in southwest London? The fire brigade has pulled out. So I, of course, I did what, you know, there's one thing that always cures a 60 year old's blues and that's obviously a brand new Gucci bag. You know, that's the kind of stuff that always helps. So I was gonna go pick one up for her. Can you turn the, turn it down a little more?

CHAPTER 03 / 33 Discussion

Amsterdam Travel, General Aviation and Private Flying

A flight to Amsterdam is described, emphasizing the benefits of flying during foggy conditions when commercial traffic is grounded. The narrative covers interactions with helpful air traffic controllers who provide direct vectors and high-altitude crossings. The trip included business meetings and social gatherings on a roof terrace in the heart of the city.

amsterdam· netherlands· general aviation· air traffic control· flight vectors

06:19 But the sound, you know, for some reason it's actually quite low, but of course I'd expect you to complain no matter what. Of course. I had a, you know, because I was going to go pick up this bag at the Gucci store in Amsterdam and I had some business anyway. I had an awesome, I had like a guy weekend. Which included? Oh, you went to Amsterdam. I noticed that in your email. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Friday afternoon I took off and it was perfect because it was beautiful in the Netherlands and it was mist, fog, to like 700 feet in the UK so no one was flying and I love it when no one's up there. It's just me and the controllers, you know, because they got nothing to do and they're like, hey, look at this idiot's flying. Then they start to give you vectors and they're really helpful and they're chatty and it's fun.

07:07 And they let you cross all over the place at high altitudes where normally you couldn't do that. And then, so I had a couple meetings and then Friday evening, I basically wound up hanging out with six foot tall blonde women. It was fucking amazing. Were you in Iceland? No, in Amsterdam. I know one, I knew most of them, but one of them is my banker. And I promised her this, we would have like two years, we'll go out to dinner. And she finally finished her roof terrace. John, I'm so sorry that I'm not going to be there when you're there for Queen's Day. She's got a roof terrace that is un-fricking-believable, right in the heart of Amsterdam. Wow. And then we went to dinner and then she started calling her friends, you know, it's like actresses, models. I'm like, holy shit, this is awesome. I just sucked it up and enjoyed every single moment of it.

CHAPTER 04 / 33 Discussion

No Agenda Drop Website, Internet Trolls and Viral Content

The hosts discuss the increasing popularity of the No Agenda Drop website, which has recently attracted active trolls. Unlike traditional forums, the site functions as a chronological repository for links, videos, and images, where trolls contribute humorous Photoshopped content. This activity is viewed as a sign of the show's growing cultural influence and self-propagating viral nature.

noagendadrop.com· internet trolls· viral content· photoshopping· community engagement

08:01 And then scored a Gucci bag and went home the next day. Well sounds like it sounds like a plan. Yeah, how's your life been boring by comparison? I'm cleaning my office. Oh Yeah, yeah yesterday. Yeah, no I didn't go down sir. I was vacuuming the the show is really really catching catching on and there's a number of telltale signs that were on to something and and the best thing happened is Kind of midweek. From time to time it acted up, but now it's really full-blown. We have on the noagendadrop.com site, we have one or multiple trolls who are just going crazy 24 hours a day posting stuff.

08:52 at the drop and I love it. Is it good or is it just troll material? No, this is the whole point because the drop site, it's not a forum. When people come into forums and they start flaming and all that, that's when it all melts down. And it happens every single time, everywhere. The minute a topic is interesting, people come in, flame wars erupt. It's just human nature or it's the nature of the web, whatever. But this is just a site where you drop shit. Yeah, it's presented like a blog, you can actually view it in different manners, which is kind of handy. But it's just links or embedded videos or mp3 files and they all come in hierarchical order. I can't pronounce it. Chronological order. Chronological order. Thank you. It's easier to say.

09:41 So, so, you know, and I was actually thinking to myself a while back, it's like, you know, this, it is kind of boring because all these links are basically death, destruction, and the world is being taken over. That's our audience. Yeah, and I like we need something entertaining you know we need and and so this Either it's one troll or a couple of them. They are posting the most hilarious stuff. It's really funny So yeah, and because it's a drop site you can find what you're looking for anyway You just scroll to it or use a different view But you can because it now updates dynamically you can just sit there and just watch all these amazing things come in and they do a lot of work a lot of Photoshopping and I love it. It's good

10:17 That is a big deal. Yeah, it's a telltale sign, I'm telling you. Now a lot of the stuff, you know, the one thing that once you get to a certain level of popularity there's a self-propagation mechanism on the internet that doesn't really exist anywhere else. Correct. Self-propagation. I guess that we'd call that viral. I like my word better. Okay. The self-propagation? The self-propagation mechanism. That's kind of like auto-fellatio. You know that reminds, you know that's a funny thing you should say. You know apparently... Now that I mention auto fallatio, yes there's videos of that! Oh yeah actually where I missed the joke there I says yeah I know I've got to stop doing that. That would have been it. I gotta cut back on that. This came up at dinner last night and my daughter, I don't know for all of a sudden she said oh auto fallatio and my wife goes what?

CHAPTER 05 / 33 Discussion

B-52s Love Shack, San Diego Strip Club Anecdote

A memory triggered by the B-52s song "Love Shack" involves a visit to a San Diego strip club called Dirty Dance. The anecdote describes a specific performance synchronized to the music, illustrating how certain songs become the "soundtrack of your life." This leads to a discussion about the Dvorak Interlude music stream and the importance of sharing backstories for selected tracks.

b-52s· love shack· san diego· dirty dance· music history

11:18 And I said, have you ever seen that video? She says, yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you ever seen the auto-cunnilingus? I'm like, oh God, no, I haven't seen that one. And it kind of deteriorated from there. Yeah, it sounds like it. The conversation went downhill. It does remind me, I was thinking about this the other day because I'm putting together another interlude. There's a B-52 song called, what was it, Love Shack. Oh, yeah, of course, B-52s. Yeah, awesome. Every time I hear that song, It you know how music sometimes gives you a moment of where you remember something that you where you heard that song It's called the soundtrack of your life. Yes, of course. Well, yeah, so I'm at a place called this is a while ago by the way I'm at up during the era when that song existed. I'm at a place called dirty dance, which is a strip bar in San Diego and

12:16 So they just real cute girl comes out and they played this song and her act Was that she would kind of writhe around on her stomach and then start to arch her back and touch her Back of her head to her ass While they're playing this song by the way I Go my god. Well this girl's limber see that's what For those you haven't heard it yet the Dvorak interlude on the no agenda stream no agenda stream calm is about a two-hour Just awesome songs that you you know them all you haven't heard him for ages They never play it on the radio certainly not the versions John's playing and and John's introducing them which is fantastic What would be even better because you do a little bit of it, but I miss that type of of

13:08 Information that goes with it, so you know if you got some of those soundtrack of your life songs you got to talk about it, too Yeah, I'll try to throw in a few more anecdotes. I was I've actually got the thing down to a formula I could which I could reveal but please don't know that's the magic do PT at least two of these little sides of very interesting information that People can enjoy but I'm not gonna you know at least I'm not gonna background every song I play it would be very dull. When does the next one drop Johnny-o? Either tomorrow or Tuesday. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. It's already done. I got that playlist and everything right? I just have to just a couple of I just have to piece it together. It's actually painful to piece it together, but takes about an hour and a half. Well, you should try programming the whole stream talk about painful.

CHAPTER 06 / 33 Discussion

No Agenda Stream, Twitter Request App Development

Technical updates on the No Agenda music stream include the development of a Twitter-based request application. The developer discusses the challenges of rewriting ID3 tags, managing request files, and the potential scalability issues of running the service on a local Macintosh. Concerns are raised about the system's reliability during upcoming travel to San Francisco.

twitter app· id3 tags· scalability· macintosh· automation

14:02 I can't imagine. The stream by the way, and people should listen to it once in a while, is unbelievably fantastic. Thank you. John, wait, I didn't quite hear you. I think we just cut out for a second. What did you say? Yeah, I was drawn to connection. Uh-huh. No, the fact that it works is amazing. It does and the request it's I'm calling him a twap twaps Twitter app So my my request twap is is working and of course there's a million things I have on the list now I understand these these engineers these developers because now like oh yeah, I gotta do I got to rewrite the ID 3 tags now I really should put the request file together and meld it together with the

14:43 With the song that's requested and then I'm like, oh, you know and and you should get a direct message from the no agenda stream That it's been That it found it and it's gonna play it, you know, so about a million things and I guess I got to release it at some point just make it work the thing I'm most afraid of is scalability because it's all running on my Mac and I think we need to. Oh yeah, you're going to have to get that thing off the map. And what happens when I travel to San Francisco? The request and the news will be down for 10 hours until I get my... The stream will run, but... No, it'll be working fine until you leave. Exactly. Exactly. That's one of the breaks. My sysop for the Dvorak Uncensored blog, dvorak.org slash blog,

15:23 It's just hilarious because the thing works fine and then he goes on, you know, Mark will take a drive down to San Jose and then the site goes down. Of course! It's Murphy's Law. Of course it goes down. It's almost as though these, maybe we do have artificial intelligence. Or the sense of humor. Well, there's certainly a lot of serendipity because this whole thing is programmed. There's a lot of random elements in it and sometimes just the combinations or the It's probably in an individual basis, but you know a song will be playing like holy crap That's exactly the right song for this minute. Yeah, I was listening to the other day. I was it was very enjoyable Group of songs there's a couple I wanted to get which so I could play them, but do you remember do you remember which one? No, I was like I wasn't you know I'd know I don't remember. I just listen again. They'll come up again all right Before I forget

CHAPTER 07 / 33 Discussion

Podcast Schedule, Upcoming Vacation Plans

The hosts coordinate their recording schedule for the upcoming week due to conflicting travel plans. One host is departing for Washington on Wednesday, while the other begins a vacation on Thursday. They weigh the options of recording early versus managing equipment while traveling.

podcasting· travel· scheduling· washington· vacation

16:21 I'd like to do the show on Wednesday because we're leaving for a vacation for a quick week on Thursday. I'll be able to do the show Sunday. Yeah, Wednesday I'm leaving on a flight to Washington. I'm taking the rest of the week off. Crap. Like I'll be on a plane at 8 in the morning. Alright, well let's figure this out. We'll figure it out later. We can always do it later. Well, we can do it Wednesday night. Well, we could do a thir- I mean, it could do Thursday. Ugh, who cares? When are you leaving? Thursday... We arrive at our destination around three in the afternoon. On Thursday? Yeah. Yeah, but you know, but it's like vacation, so if I unpa- if I immediately start unpacking the mic and the gear... Do you think some people will be annoyed with me? We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. What, and quit show business? She's a show business person. She knows better. Oh, please.

CHAPTER 08 / 33 Discussion

G20 Summit, Gordon Brown New World Order Speech

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown's closing remarks at the G20 summit are analyzed, specifically his declaration that a "new world order is emerging." The summit resulted in agreements for global fiscal stimulus, interest rate cuts, and increased resources for international institutions. The hosts highlight the use of the phrase "green recovery" as a significant rhetorical shift.

g20· gordon brown· new world order· fiscal stimulus· global recovery

17:16 So the alternative media, but also certainly the English media really picked up on Gordon Brown's closing of the G20 summit, which we have to talk about because some decisions were made and some conclusions, as well as conclusions, and hopefully the United States knows something about that, he said questioningly towards his colleague. What? Well, what they decided at the G20. There was a conclusion to it. What did they decide? You tell me. I don't know. Well, first shall we listen to a little bit of Gordon Brown closing down the G20 because that's what all the newspapers jumped on. Front page, every single one of them as well as the alternative media. Today the largest countries of the world have agreed a global plan for recovery and reform. This involves the biggest interest rate cuts in history

18:10 The biggest fiscal stimulus we have ever seen, the biggest increase in resources in the history of our international institutions, with 250 billions, more money than ever before for trade finance as well. For the first time we have a common approach around the world to cleaning up banks' balance sheets and restoring lending. We are engaging in a deep process of reform and restructuring of our international financial system for now and for the future. And we have maintained our commitment to help the world's poorest, and we have put more money aside for that. He said poorest, not poo-est, just an FYI. And also for a green recovery.

18:54 I like that one. The green recovery? Yeah. They slipped that one in. Alright, wait for it, here it comes. There you go. I just gotta hear it again. The new world order is emerging. You should take it. Take that little clip and then put a big echo behind it so it sounds like it's on Mexican radio and use it. Hold on a second, let's see if we can do that. I think a new world order is emerging and with it... That was pretty good. So the new world order is emerging and there's a little more to that actually that he said that kind of fit with it. I think a new world order is emerging and with it the foundations of a new and progressive era of international cooperation. Yeah.

CHAPTER 09 / 33 Discussion

International Monetary Fund, Special Drawing Rights and Global Banking

The G20's commitment to provide $850 billion through the IMF and multilateral development banks is examined via an official PDF declaration. The discussion focuses on the creation of Special Drawing Rights (SDRs) and the potential for a new global reserve currency favored by China. The hosts characterize these international financial institutions as a complex "shell game" managed by a global elite.

imf· special drawing rights· asian development bank· reserve currency· group of 20

19:50 So the plan, which of course has been endorsed by President Obama and everyone else who was a part of it, really what was going on is Baroso. Because the whole thing that was on there was televised and it was live. That was all the theater while the real work was actually taking place behind the scenes. And as predicted, and actually I have the PDF here. Declaration on delivering resources through the international financial institutions. This is the document that the Group of 20 came up with. We, the leaders of the Group of 20, are committed to ensuring that capital continues to flow to emerging market and developing countries to protect their economies and support world growth. Blah blah blah blah. We have agreed to make available an additional 850 billion dollars of resources through the IMF.

20:43 And the multilateral development banks to support growth in emerging market and developing countries. And there are acronyms in this document, John. I've never heard of them. Listen to a couple of these. So it's several, in reality it's really several trillion dollars that are being created in these special drawing rights and everyone's pitching in and China of course is loving it because that's going to be the new reserve currency. But then we have the multilateral development banks. Which is part of, I guess you have parts of that called the Asian Development Bank, the Inter-American Development Bank, the African Development Bank, the European Bank for Restructuring and Development. What are these banks? What is that about? Sounds like they're creating a series of middlemen that can control something else.

21:35 The new IFC... True elite and that's their banks just like the central banks. I guess it's I think you're right It's all it's like a shell game to central central bank the new IFC global trade liquidity pool. I mean come on Well, that's the probably that solves that problem that you were talking about earlier with the letters of credit Yeah, except it runs through those guys

22:12 Well, you know, they get a piece of the action. If you set yourself up where you're just taking a penny here and a penny there from trillions of dollars in transactions, you do pretty well. Some of this language, of course you do fantastically well. Some of this language sounds like it's... It's almost like a retail bank for countries. We welcome the IMF's new flexible credit line. That's like a credit card or something like an ATM for countries, for eligible countries. I mean there's just all this stuff in there. The IBRD, the IDA, the DSF. They've got it all figured out. I don't know why we're not doing that. Doing what? You and I, we should have been bankers. No, it's... I am so at the realization that we really truly live in a world of multiple layers of games, fractals if you will, and we're not in any of them. We're not players in any one of these games. There's... what's this guy's name? Bill... hold on, let me look it up.

CHAPTER 10 / 33 Discussion

Bill Black, The Best Way to Rob a Bank

Financial expert Bill Black appears on the Bill Moyers Journal to discuss his book, "The Best Way to Rob a Bank Is to Own One." Black argues that the current economic meltdown is driven by elite fraud, deceit, and the betrayal of trust. He describes a "Ponzi-like" system where CEOs make bad loans to generate short-term bonuses, inevitably leading to long-term disaster.

bill black· bill moyers· bank fraud· savings and loan crisis· ponzi scheme

23:20 Bill Moyers, the Bill Moyers Journal had Bill Black on. Well, yes, oh God, I agree with you. Do you know who Bill Black is? No. He's the reporter who went after the savings and loan and because of his articles, the Keating Five came about and they went after it. Oh, you know, the one that Nancy Pelosi was with, you know, okay. Yeah, everyone got out of it basically. So he wrote, he's written a new book and it's called The Best Way to Rob a Bank Is to Own One. Which of course caught my eye when I saw the title. It's a good title. It's an excellent title.

23:57 And so he explains, and I wouldn't mind playing a little piece of that, because it's a rehearsed script. You can hear, you can almost hear Bill Moyers deliver his lines. He's so bad at it. Like, oh really? You mean there's really fraud going on? Yeah, that sounds like him. I mean, the guy is totally programmed. His main target are the Wall Street barons who are heirs of an earlier generation whose scandalous ripoffs of wealth back in the 1930s earned them comparison to Al Capone and the mob and the nickname, banksters. Bill Black, welcome to the journal. Thank you.

24:34 I was taken with your candor at the conference here in New York to hear you say that this crisis we're going through, this economic and financial meltdown, is driven by fraud. I was taken aback. Why? I never believed such a thing. Fraud? What a fake. Fraud's going on here? Well listen, listen, listen. What's your definition of fraud? Fraud is deceit. And the essence of fraud is I create trust in you and then I betray that trust and get you to give me something of value. And as a result, there's no more effective acid against trust

25:15 and fraud, especially fraud by top elites. And that's what we have. In your book, you make it clear that calculated dishonesty by people in charge is at the heart of most large corporate failures and scandals, including, of course, the SNL. But is that true? Is that what you're saying here? How much of the... it's hard to take that guy. Yeah, I just wanted to hear his answer because his answer is correct and it's like a one paragraph answer. And that's when I actually saw his video when I saw this, link in the show notes of course.

25:52 That's when I realized that it's just such a small little piece of the entire game that, oh yeah, we're not in. It was in the boardrooms and the CEO offices where this fraud began? Absolutely. How did they do it? What do you mean? Well, the way that you do it is to make really bad loans because they pay better. Then you grow extremely rapidly, in other words, you're a Ponzi-like scheme. And the third thing you do is we call it leverage. That just means borrowing a lot of money. And the combination creates a situation where you have guaranteed record profits in the early years. That makes you rich through the bonuses that modern executive compensation has produced. It also makes it inevitable that there's going to be a disaster down the road. So that was pretty good. Yeah, I'm not buying it. What do you mean you're not buying it? You're saying there was no fraud?

CHAPTER 11 / 33 Discussion

Corporate Boardroom Culture, Executive Bonuses and Incentives

A debate ensues regarding whether corporate fraud is a calculated scheme or a result of an insular culture. One host argues that executives are often divorced from reality due to their high-status environments, leading them to believe massive bonuses are justified despite public outcry. The behavior is described as a "fractal" of a larger systemic game played by those in power.

corporate culture· executive compensation· boardrooms· incentives· social isolation

26:46 No, what I'm not buying is the fact that he suspects or says, and of course Moyers eats this up because he's essentially a socialist with a very limited view of things and he should be writing for the Guardian. Because he's making the assertion that these guys are in the boardroom wringing their hands going, yeah, and here's what we're going to do next and this is going to happen and we're going to do this and that. When these board meetings, you've been in them. There's not a lot of scheming going on the way they make it sound. It sounds like these guys, you know, close the doors, okay, make sure there's no bugs in the room. It's just these guys kind of fell into this mess. First I'm going to plead the fifth on what you just said, but it's more like, it's cultural. It gets to a point where everybody's doing it. It's like, for those... No, I'm not going to argue that, but that's different. Cultural, these cultural...

27:46 initiatives, or the style. Yeah, everybody, in fact, that's why I think these idiots keep giving themselves bonuses because they're so... They're so separated from the reality of the situation. That they, you know what, I don't know, what? Why is anybody upset that I'm giving myself this huge bonus? They're completely divorced from the rest of society because they've been in an insular environment, you know, and there are limos and hookers. In the morning! Because you know there's hookers in the morning somewhere. But, you know, the way they make it sound is always just some sort of, you know, you know, yeah, Dr. Evil. Yeah, Dr. Evil. You know, I mean, it's just not the way it is.

28:31 Not that these guys are the greatest guy, you know great people or fun to be around some of them are so I guess what I would say Yeah, absolutely because they got good hookers, but it's that's what I mean by it's just a subset of the bigger game That's being played above then I'm sure there's someone above them, but it really everyone's a fractal. Oh, hold on a second I have a jingle for that God it sounds like something coming out of the ooze We got a great audience man, they send us awesome stuff Self it's so is it self-propagating? Whatever I forgot what my term was it was a good one, but you might have to listen to the show I Listened to the show the other day. I don't think it's equalized very well. What do you mean? Oh?

CHAPTER 12 / 33 Discussion

Audio Engineering, Skype Connection and Sound Quality

The hosts discuss the technical audio quality of the podcast, specifically the equalization and the impact of the Skype connection. One host suggests adding more low-end frequencies to the mix to improve the vocal presence. They compare the sound quality of different microphones, including the Heil PR40, and the use of headphones during recording.

audio quality· equalization· skype· reverb· heil pr40

29:22 I sound like, for one thing, I sound like I'm talking slower than I am. Well that's just the Skype connection. There's not much I can do about it. But you're not talking slow. You come through as slow as usual. Huh? Sound like emo. But, you know, it sounds good, man. You don't like the actual EQ? Yeah, I'm thinking the EQ could be a little... Okay, I'll give you a little more low end there. Probably would help. And you got your reverbs. Now when I'm on the other mic, at the other house, at PR40, I don't think you need to do anything. But, good, I'm also on phones there too, I don't wear them here. Right. You know, it's not like you'd do anything to improve the quality of the show. It can all be done by twirling knobs! Yes, it's very easy. We have, uh, the Blackwater replacement is now known.

CHAPTER 13 / 33 Discussion

Triple Canopy, Blackwater Replacement in Iraq

Triple Canopy, a Chicago-based security firm, is set to take over the State Department's security contract in Iraq from Xe Services (formerly Blackwater). The company's website lists services including homeland defense, crisis management, and security analysis. The hosts mock the corporate branding and the transition of private military contractors into "consultant" roles.

triple canopy· blackwater· xe services· iraq· private security

30:23 Oh, who is it? Because I understand the Blackwater guys are going back to Iraq. They are going back to Iraq, but Blackwater of course changed its name to Z. And they lost their contract, but they've got a new one. No, it's a... go figure, a Chicago company called Triple Canopy. And beginning May 7th, Triple Canopy will officially take over Z's mega contract with the US State Department. Now I haven't done... Triple Canopy sounds like a catering company. Doesn't it sound like a catering company? Oh, Triple Canopy, we got the best chefs in town. Let me look at their website. It's a triple... go figure.

31:07 Oh my god, triplecanopy.com, this is great. Solutions. Solutions. Need to take over the world? We've got a solution for you! Security services. They're also hired for some, apparently some security services in the US. Crisis management. Hmm. Homeland defense. Rock and roll, baby. I think a picture of contain- oh, this is a very interesting site. At Triple Canopy, our key strengths of security analysis, protection, operations and training are focused on the critical task of homeland defense. We're dedicated to keeping nations safe from terrorist attacks by assessing vulnerabilities, providing fixed site security, protecting key personnel and training organizations to prepare for and prevent. Brother, sounds like those typical kind of consultants. They need prof- yeah, well that's what exactly what they're called, consultants. You know, the guys who were in Georgia when they attacked Russia?

CHAPTER 14 / 33 Discussion

Cybersecurity Act of 2009, Internet Kill Switch Legislation

Senators Jay Rockefeller and Olympia Snowe have introduced the Cybersecurity Act of 2009, which critics claim grants the President an "internet kill switch." The bill would allow the Secretary of Commerce access to critical network data regardless of existing privacy laws. The hosts call for voters in Maine to remove Senator Snowe from office in response to the legislation.

jay rockefeller· olympia snowe· cybersecurity act· internet· commerce department

32:09 Right, those guys. The consultants. Hey, they're seeking top performers who appreciate the opportunities that come with being part of a growing international security solutions leader. Well, you know, maybe that should be a job for me. Okay, emergency medicine, operations coordination, program management, administration, logistics, human resources. We could go in there. Can you imagine being the HR person in a place like that? No, hardly. A bunch of guys coming in there, you know, sharpening their knives. Hardly. Are you going to hire me or not? And I think this whole ACTA thing is starting to kind of gel. I think I understand what's happening. So I think it was last, maybe it was last week ago, at least the last show, Senator Rockefeller, he played that clip where he said, we never should have created, Al Gore never should have created the internet.

33:04 Yeah. So he has now introduced a bill. You have to turn off the internet. Yes, exactly. The Cybersecurity Act of 2009. Have you blogged it? Have you looked at this thing yet? I don't know that we blogged it or not, but I have looked at it and I was just... it's an eye roller. Yeah, here's one. It grants the Secretary of Commerce... Now remember, who's the Secretary of Commerce now? I don't know, they keep changing him. They keep rejecting him. Access to all relevant data concerning critical networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule or policy restricting such access. Yeah, let's just write a bill that says, by the way, this bill is unconstitutional. We thought we'd mention it. It's unbelievable. Hopefully the Supreme Court will get a hold of one of these things and just tell them to screw them.

33:59 Who's uh, he has a Democrat right? But he also has Olympia Snow, Republican from Maine. Yeah, she's an obvious idiot. They need another name huh? We must protect our critical infrastructure at all costs. By the way, vote her out of office ladies and gentlemen. Anyone there in Maine, go out of your way, get rid of her. I'll have to look into her now. Is she milfy? I doubt it. Oh, you don't know her? No, I've never seen a picture of her. I can look it up. You just only know the policy. That's pretty outrageous. We have to start targeting the individual legislators and get them voted out. Okay, so this is a good idea. Why don't we find some vote that's coming up or some election? There's always something going on, right? At lower level.

34:50 Oh yeah, there's lots of stuff, weird crap. Yeah, so let's find one that we can put the, stick the audience on and see if we can get someone voted out. Okay, I'm game. Yeah, it's fun. Okay, so we'll take suggestions. It's fun. It's fun! It's fun to get someone voted. If we made it fun, imagine if kids enjoyed it. Hey, come on man, let's come on down to the schoolyard. We're all gonna get together to vote someone out of office. It's fun. Well, they did that in California when they actually had a recall against this guy, Gray Davis, and that's how Schwarzenegger got in. That was fun. Right, that's the guy that killed Chandra Levy, wasn't it? Who? What? Isn't that the guy who killed Chandra Levy? No, no, no. You keep saying everybody I bring up in California politics, you claim killed Chandra Levy. Okay, who killed her then? I don't know. There was somebody, it turned out to be some psycho that was stalking her or something. I think they figured it out.

CHAPTER 15 / 33 Discussion

Reusable Grocery Bags, Polypropylene and Eco-Guilt

A listener email from a grocery store accountant at Harris Teeter describes the "eco-guilt" associated with reusable polypropylene bags. The writer notes that customers often refuse plastic bags even for raw meat, leading to contamination risks. The email highlights that these 99-cent bags have high profit margins for stores but degrade quickly, potentially creating more waste than disposable alternatives.

harris teeter· reusable bags· polypropylene· plastic waste· grocery stores

35:46 Hey, I got a letter from Andrew Natupski. I hope I'm pronouncing that right. I was listening to the latest. Excellent as usual. No agenda. I didn't have to read that, but I did. I immensely enjoyed the part where you were describing the Berkeley area shopping experience, which leads me to the following. I work as a store accountant while putting myself through college or since I worked, but probably meant I worked at a local supermarket, Harris Teeter, where I occasionally go and help bag, etc. This is in North Carolina, not exactly the hippie capital of the nation.

36:22 Although I would question that comment. But we have a fair amount of liberals who latch onto the current trends. Lately the store has been pushing their reusable polypropylene bags, which has struck a chord with everyone's echo guilt. I have had a case... It's necessary for the green recovery, otherwise you need echo guilt. I echo guilt. I have, I like the word, I have had occasions where I am bagging someone's order. This is by the way is in response to my bitching about the woman who demanded they put stuff in her bag, in her cloth bag. I've had occasions where I'm bagging someone's order and the reusable bag is full while they still have some raw meat left. Obviously this person wouldn't want their raw meat mixed in with their vegetables, etc. So I go to put it in a plastic bag and mention it to the customer I'm doing so. I have had people literally lunge toward me with hands out yelling, no, not another bag.

37:17 No, and then proceeding to place the raw meat with all the other groceries in the overpacked bag. I can only imagine how smashed everything is being in the one bag, vegetables, cans, cleaners, etc. Also, the people fail to take into account the crappiness of the bag. It's only 99 cents and is actually an extremely high profit item for the store, 60% margin. So the bag degrades after three and four visits and turns into an absolute piece of crap beyond that. I imagine that the customer will then buy some more reusable bags, thus negating everything they have been trying to accomplish by not using disposable bags because the reusable ones are so much thicker and contain so much more material. Not to mention that some people will not use a bag because it is a waste of a gram of plastic. They're paying, they're the same people buying 20 containers of yogurt that are made from enough hard plastic to bag their entire carts worth of groceries from one yogurt container. Anyway, go.

38:10 It's just what a great rant. That's a good one. It was a good rant excellent well I got a I got a short little note from David Johnson who said Adam John I thought the story was interesting because when my Canadian wife tried to enter the US a few years ago and this is in relation to the the guy who had $4,700 in cash and the TSA was questioning him like he was a like a piece of dirt She was denied entry for her lack of cash. Yes. She didn't have enough I Wait, how much money do we have to have to get into this? We're going to find out. The agent profiled single women traveling alone without large amounts of cash because they could be mail order bride material. From Canada? Hey man, stop. Be very careful. I don't want David to get the wrong idea.

CHAPTER 16 / 33 Discussion

TSA Cash Profiling, Canola Oil and Canadian Health

A discussion on TSA profiling mentions a woman denied entry to the U.S. for a lack of cash, with agents suspecting she might be a "mail-order bride." This transitions into a theory regarding physical health trends in Canada. One host posits that the widespread use of canola oil in the Canadian diet has led to visible changes in body composition compared to previous decades.

tsa· canada· canola oil· profiling· health trends

37:17 No, and then proceeding to place the raw meat with all the other groceries in the overpacked bag. I can only imagine how smashed everything is being in the one bag, vegetables, cans, cleaners, etc. Also, the people fail to take into account the crappiness of the bag. It's only 99 cents and is actually an extremely high profit item for the store, 60% margin. So the bag degrades after three and four visits and turns into an absolute piece of crap beyond that. I imagine that the customer will then buy some more reusable bags, thus negating everything they have been trying to accomplish by not using disposable bags because the reusable ones are so much thicker and contain so much more material. Not to mention that some people will not use a bag because it is a waste of a gram of plastic. They're paying, they're the same people buying 20 containers of yogurt that are made from enough hard plastic to bag their entire carts worth of groceries from one yogurt container. Anyway, go.

38:10 It's just what a great rant. That's a good one. It was a good rant excellent well I got a I got a short little note from David Johnson who said Adam John I thought the story was interesting because when my Canadian wife tried to enter the US a few years ago and this is in relation to the the guy who had $4,700 in cash and the TSA was questioning him like he was a like a piece of dirt She was denied entry for her lack of cash. Yes. She didn't have enough I Wait, how much money do we have to have to get into this? We're going to find out. The agent profiled single women traveling alone without large amounts of cash because they could be mail order bride material. From Canada? Hey man, stop. Be very careful. I don't want David to get the wrong idea.

39:01 He has a very hot wife. Sure, there's some good looking women in Canada. There's no doubt about it. But they walk a lot. By the way, the women in Canada... Hey, hey, hey, this is the John C. Dvorak School of Modeling. Do you walk a lot, baby? Well, they walk a lot in Toronto. I don't have to measure this! What statistical evidence do you have of women walking a lot in Toronto? And why do you study these things? So let's go over the simple fact of what's happened over the last, I'd say, 15 to 20 years.

39:36 Now, I've noticed that women in Canada tend to have a, or 15 or 20 years ago, they walked a lot and they had usually a fairly good looking figure and a small, compact, shapely derriere. Now, over the last- Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm just building a visual. Okay, we're ready. So now over the last few years I've noticed that the same women that you will see the next batch not to use that term derogatorily. It's a flock of geese in a batch of broads. And so the next batch comes out and they seem to have bigger butts and a lot of cellulite in that is actually visible through the pants which is not a good thing. That's not a good look either. Now it's not a good look. Now

40:30 I'm thinking the only thing that's changed in Canada is the fact that the Canadians in particular, unlike the Americans, the Canadians have made canola oil their primary source of oil. I mean they use it all the time and I think it's affecting their bodies. Very interesting. If they went back to olive oil, this would be, or even corn oil, but safflower, some of the better, healthier oils, I think that this would go away. Wow. I mean, it's the only thing that's changed is the oil. Well, you know that in Britain,

CHAPTER 17 / 33 Discussion

UK Obesity Epidemic, Jamie Oliver and Fast Food

The United Kingdom is facing an obesity epidemic attributed to the rise of fast-food chains like McDonald's and Burger King. The hosts discuss the decline of traditional fish and chip shops and the popularity of low-quality frozen foods from budget supermarkets like Iceland. They reference chef Jamie Oliver's failed attempts to reform school lunches due to parental resistance.

obesity· jamie oliver· fast food· iceland supermarket· nutrition

41:07 There's a severe obesity, they call it an epidemic like you can catch it, but it's a obesity epidemic and I'm convinced and it is backed up by studies that started when Kentucky Fried Chicken, McDonald's as they call it here and Burger King all entered into the market. It was all this fast food and the Brits just took to it like crazy. I mean no one, except on Sundays, they have their Sunday roast, but every other day of the week they're just eating takeaways and just total crap. Right, where they used to eat fish and chips. Exactly. Which is not the healthiest thing in the world, but it's nothing in terms of comparing. Nothing compared to a hamburger from McDonald's. Because you get actual fish and potatoes are good.

41:50 So it's... And most of the fish and chip shops are closing. Yeah, they can't afford to survive anymore because you go into... what is it? Iceland. Have you been to an Iceland? No. Okay, so it's a supermarket chain and it is about the lowest of the low. It doesn't come any lower. It's like Costco prices except it's all crap. for everything. So you buy like a 12 pieces of fish and chip frozen shit, which of course doesn't contain any actual fish and or chips. And it's like a pound, you know? And I'm not kidding. It's a pound for 12 pieces of no actual ingredient stuff. And people, there's no education

42:38 Except Jamie Oliver, and of course he's the only guy who's right, and he said, stop feeding your children. They had mothers who were so angry at Jamie Oliver making real food for kids, they were handing hamburgers through the gates of the schoolyard. Yeah, that was the news about a year ago. Yeah, and they laugh at him, and they call him a dick now, and now he's a punchline. And it's sad, it's just so sad. Pipel. Yeah, I don't get it either. I'm actually befuddled by the... I mean... It's education, John. It's pure education. People just don't know. The education system, right. They just don't know. So I can only blame the education system, I guess. Well, that's what we do all the time here. Yeah, never ever fix it. All that stimulus money is all going straight into education, into buildings and broadband, not into the actual curriculum or teachers.

CHAPTER 18 / 33 Discussion

FBI Data Center Raid, Core IP Networks

The FBI conducted an unwarranted raid on a Core IP Networks data center in Dallas, Texas, seizing equipment and cutting off service for nearly 50 businesses. The CEO reported that the investigation targeted a former customer, yet all clients lost access to their data. The hosts advise listeners to maintain off-site backups and use external hard drives to protect against government seizures.

fbi· data center· core ip networks· search warrants· data backup

43:37 Yeah, we're probably the most educational thing on the air right now. Very good chance. You kind of, you went a little too fast for me because I wanted to say on the heels of the shutdown the Internet Act, I'm sure you heard about the FBI raiding a data center? No. Oh really? It's Core IP Networks LLC. The CEO posted a note Dear customers, today at 6am the FBI conducted an unwarranted early morning raid of our 2323 Bryan Street data centers on the 7th and 24th floors. I received a phone call 6.05am from our NOC. The entire network was powered off.

44:16 I received a call 15 minutes later from FBI agent Alan Lynn. Mr. Lynn would not tell me why he raided our data center or what he was looking for. He also accused me of hiding inside my house in Ovila, Texas. I was actually in Phoenix. The FBI seized all equipment belonging to our customers. Many customers went to the data center to try and retrieve their equipment but were threatened with arrest. Neither I nor Core IP are involved in any illegal activities of any kind. The only data I have received thus far is that the FBI is investigating a company that has purchased services from Core IP in the past. The company does not even co-locate with us anymore. Currently, nearly 50 businesses are completely without access to their email and data. Without a warrant, John. Oh really? Yeah. Well, it sounds like a lawsuit. So I think that this Acta Act, our Acta law, this international law that we're not allowed to hear about because according to our transparent government,

45:12 It threatens homeland security. This is all a part of it. You're going to see more and more of this shit. Of computers being taken, raids, data. So ladies and gentlemen, make sure you keep your machines backed up. Yes, please do. And keep the backup off premises. And make a couple backups while you're at it. Yeah, probably a couple is not a bad idea. I mean, generally you should do that anyway. That way you can kind of rotate through them and always have it. So you should never really be more, lose, well I mean it depends if you're a company, you don't want to lose more than a few hours of data. But as an individual, you don't really want to lose more than a week, let's say. So every week you should back everything up twice. That's what I love about my Mac, the time machine thing. God, it's so wonderful. It just works. Yeah, but it's in the office. No it's not. What happens if they, what if they come in and they just take everything?

46:09 No, no, I back up to... well yeah, true. I back up to the local drive, but I do back up other places. Where? All the time. Well, if I told you where, then they're gonna go and raid that as well. I'm not gonna tell you. Is it off-site? Yes, it's in the cloud. Oh. Well, the cloud they can get to too. Yeah, of course. So anyway, yeah. Make a getaway. You know, the thing is you can go to Costco and you can buy a terabyte hard drive for a hundred bucks. and you can, and it's usually USB, you can plug it into your machine and just take the whole, all your other stuff and just make a copy. Just make a whole copy of the C drive and whatever other drives you got. It's probably not gonna be a terabyte. And then go take it to your mom's house or your somebody, you know, pal or safe deposit box or whatever and just put the thing in there. That's some excellent advice. Excellent advice. I don't have a jingle for that.

CHAPTER 19 / 33 Discussion

RIM BlackBerry Stock, Corporate Layoffs and Service Contracts

Financial analyst Andrew Horowitz suggests that Research In Motion (RIM) stock gains may be artificially inflated by corporate layoffs. When employees are fired, they lose their company-issued BlackBerrys but often purchase new ones to maintain their mobile habits, while the original corporate service contracts remain active. This creates a temporary surge in hardware sales and subscriber numbers.

research in motion· blackberry· stock market· layoffs· service contracts

47:09 No, we could use actually it would be a cool jingle. Excellent advice! In the morning. You got a list? You had some stuff last week I remember we talked after the show and we forgot to focus. Yeah, you know I wrote it onto this notepad of stuff that we forgot to discuss. Mark to Mark, I don't know that's from Horowitz. Hey, it was a pretty good show with Andrew. Yeah, he was a happy camper. He went to Paris. I guess you guys had lunch or something. Yeah, I was waiting for a mention. You know, there was no mention on the show. Oh, so you didn't listen to the show because there was a specific mention of him having coffee or something with you. Where was that? I thought I looked... Well, maybe I'd walked out of the room for a second and hadn't paused it. No, I did listen to the show. It was right at the beginning too, so you probably didn't listen. Really? Yeah. That's interesting. No, I heard the whole thing. I liked his theory about the rim.

47:59 The theory about RIM and the stock, I was fascinated by that myself. That was quite good. You should repeat it for a second so our NOAA general listeners can hear. Yeah, what he says is that RIM shot up like a rocket and he says that they make the BlackBerry by the way. The BlackBerry, yeah, the BlackBerry. Shot up like a rocket, good earnings, all kinds of things happen that are positive. And he, by the way, this is why I like Andrew a lot and this is what he's really good at. which is thinking, taking it one way, looking at the why from a different perspective. And he suspects that these numbers may be skewed and tricking people because he's thinking that if there's these big layoffs, six, seven hundred thousand a month,

48:42 of all these people that many working corporations where the company assigned you a BlackBerry and people get addicted to the BlackBerry, you get fired, they take your BlackBerry away, they keep the service contract because it's a contract, it's still lasting but you don't get it anymore. And so you have to go out and buy another BlackBerry and a new service contract and it inflates the numbers because of the turnover of people that are, you know, that lost their jobs. It made nothing but sense the way he explained it. Yeah, I thought it was brilliant. I don't know how big the blip is, but it makes so much sense. Like, yeah, it's a huge blip. Really?

49:20 Yeah, and it's probably what it is. It makes it, you know, because there's no other explanation for it because people love the Blackberry. They are addicted to it. People who have a Blackberry, especially if they use it for email, they can't live without it. So they'd go off and get another one immediately and it would help them, you know, find a job. So I had to explain and I talked about this and I think a lot of people need to know this, especially Americans. that very few people realize that once your contract is done with your phone company and you have the phone that they've given you a good deal because you had the long-term contract. Usually you can call the carrier up or the provider, whoever it is, the phone company, T-Mobile or Verizon, and tell them you want them to unlock the phone. And they will do it.

CHAPTER 21 / 33 Discussion

No Agenda iPhone App, Mobile Features and Pricing

The upcoming No Agenda iPhone and iPod Touch application is announced, featuring a live stream player, direct Twitter integration, and podcast download capabilities. The app is expected to retail for 99 cents in the Apple App Store. The hosts view this as a way to centralize the "No Agenda universe" for mobile users.

iphone app· apple· mobile application· podcasting· live stream

52:53 I'm looking for the notes that we had from last week. I know it was on the notes. You've lost the notes. You wrote it on a box. I'm looking at notes. Hear this? Hear this noise? That's me slapping the pad. That's you autoflatiating. So what's on the pad? I'm trying to find you know where I can't find the notes no they're in here but there's notes from the last you know five months of shows I mean let me just read you some okay read some notes and we'll see if we can decipher them Chavez helping socialist Iran dash Cuba dash Russia the life affirming podcast boring next note Lawrence versus Texas

53:32 Yeah, we did that. Senator Lawrence. I'm trying to catch up to... Okay, so I know one that's on the list that we didn't do last week is that it is coming. It's in the App Store. I think Apple rejected it first, but the No Agenda iPhone slash iPod Touch app is coming. Right. And let me tell you what it includes. I haven't played with it myself. Let me rephrase that. It has a, so it's basically an app and you have a menu, tabs at the bottom and it's the stream so it taps right into the live stream so you don't have to figure out what, how to make that work. There's a Twitter, so you Twitter directly to No Agenda and there's a direct download thingy for the podcast so you can have the offline version. I mean it's like a whole little wallet, a whole No Agenda

CHAPTER 22 / 33 Discussion

No Agenda Donations, The National Armory Project

The hosts read a list of donors, noting several contributions of $66.66 and $88.88, reflecting listener interest in numerology. They announce the expansion of the "No Agenda Library" into the "No Agenda Armory," suggesting they may accept hardware and ammunition donations. Plans to add Amazon and other payment services are discussed to provide alternatives to PayPal.

donations· paypal· 666· 888· armory· fundraising

54:24 universe in the palm of your hand and I think it's gonna be 99 cents good yeah I'm great this is how it should work people need to make money off of us I think that's cool and not only that but we need to make some money off of you you know we do have to mention a few people who contributed fifty and a hundred dollars this week yes and I want to also apologize there's one guy who sent me an email because the last time I ran through this list of names I left somebody out, he sent me an email, of course that was two weeks ago and now of course it's in my email box and I can't find it, he's gonna have to send me another email, I'm sorry. But we got a bunch of interesting ones here. What's interesting to me is the, we do have a few things like the $66.60 from Robert Aher. But generally speaking we got a lot of $50 donations. Steven Santoni, Richard Chapus, Mike Wilkes, Bronson Photography,

55:21 Chris Bullock, Niven Brooks, C. Chase McCarthy, Robert Anderson, this is good for $100, thanks Robert, John Matthews, then we had Noel Malinowski, And Kerry Lutz both for $150. And Kerry, of course, is our East Coast Research Division. Thank you, Kerry. He gave us money. He decided to help us out. He works getting stories for us and he's paying money for the libraries, donating. I mean, that's a great guy. Unbelievable. He's the best guy. Kenneth Alexander. Lois Whitman sent us $100. She's a very famous PR woman in New York City. Really? Yeah. And she likes the show.

56:10 and she's gonna do some work for us. I was just gonna say, can she help us with some PR? I think so. We just have to give her something to do. She'd be loved to. Oh, that's great. Is she hot? Lois is hot. Oh god, really? Oh cool. I've always wanted a hot PR woman. Yeah, she's just right up your alley. Yeah, Miltie? Yeah, Robert Anderson. What's her name? While you're doing those shout outs, I want to know. Lois Whitman, that'd be HWH Public Relations, I think is her. Lois, L-O-I-S? Yeah, let me get these names out. Robert Anderson, $100. Thank you, Robert. Now we got the oddball ones. David VanderWaal.

56:55 $56.66. Excellent. It's like, okay, great. I love that. Harry Sellwood, yeah, he sent us $666.66. Really? I'm not sure. Yeah. Jesus, thank you. And then of course we got Robert Aher, who I think maybe mentioned before, for $66.60. So there's all these 666 guys. Yeah, excellent. Now, what's interesting to me is we mentioned people in the magic number 8, the Chinese lucky number. So we did get a couple of numerous $8.88 donations but the curious thing is that there's a thing, a random number theory that has everything in bunches.

57:45 We had two donations in a row out of the blue and none again ever for $88.88 by Thomas Nelson and somebody named Desert Burn, which could be a Pseudonym or I don't know but desert burn was the name, but they came in bang bang right after another cool Yeah, $88.88 and I'm just like you look at the listeners a this this did them bing bing and then that's it but no one said 888 no nobody sent 888 but they'd get a special call out for sure

58:24 But anybody that doesn't get mentioned when they send over $50 into us, please send me an email. This time I will put it aside and get you mentioned in the next show. Thank you very much. And of course this is for the No Agenda library slash winery. We haven't actually done anything with the money yet. But there's somebody that suggested that we expand this winery library to something else. Armory. Armory. Yeah, I like it. Armory. Winery, library, armory. Done. We'll make it so. Of course you can also help just by giving us some link juice, twittering about us, tell a friend, that's even better, tell a friend, turn them on to the show. And you go to Dvorak.org slash NA or noagendalibrary.com or noagendalibrary.com and that'll link you to the PayPal site and you can, or you can, I'll put up some addresses where you can mail stuff if you

59:23 some people hate PayPal and with you know some justification and we're also gonna add Amazon and some other now you can add some other pay collection services that we're gonna call action sir collection services I don't like that I don't like the sound of that oh it's a no agenda collection agency we hear you got a donation for the armory I like the armory idea. I think the armory is even better. Yeah, we should just go with that. Because we could load up with guns. Yeah, we could get like ammo and shit. And we'll also just take gun donations. It doesn't have to be money. Just send us some hardware. Yeah, just mail us your guns. Yeah, that's it. We're working. Take guns off the street. Put them in our armory.

CHAPTER 23 / 33 Discussion

Obama Administration Financial Disclosures, Larry Summers Speaking Fees

Bloomberg reports on the financial disclosures of top Obama administration officials, revealing that Larry Summers earned $2.7 million in speaking fees from major banks like Goldman Sachs and Citigroup. Other disclosures include Rahm Emanuel's AIG stock holdings and David Axelrod's multi-million dollar buyouts from public affairs firms. The hosts highlight the perceived conflict of interest between these officials and the industries they regulate.

larry summers· rahm emanuel· valerie jarrett· david axelrod· bloomberg

1:00:12 It'll be cool everybody, I promise you. Bloomberg came out with a report earlier this week regarding the shadow puppet theater of that is the administration. Of course there's a total transparency involved so that's why we have to bring it to you, courtesy of Bloomberg. And this is about money that people are making. Lawrence Summers, who of course is director of President Obama's National Economic Council, earned more than 2.7 million dollars in speaking fees from companies such as Bank of America, Citigroup, Goldman Sachs. What a coincidence. Gee, you wonder how that works. Summers, who is the treasury secretary under former President Bill Clinton, spoke to Citigroup, Goldman, Lehman Brothers Holdings last year even. I mean, so this is very recent.

1:01:02 And then we have Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. Let's see, he listed holdings of less than $1,000 in shares of AIG, but he still had shares of AIG. Maybe he's hoping it's going to make a comeback. His wife bought between $1,000 and $15,000 worth of AIG stock in August. That was a blunder. Yeah, and that was 2007. So I bet you they did make money on it. Let's see, Valerie Jarrett, senior advisor to Obama, who I've never heard of, but she's a close friend from Chicago. Sold shares she owned in CME, Caterpillar, Hewlett Packard, Intel, Sony, General Mills, General Dynamics Corp, Costco. And this is a fantastic article right down to David Axelrod, chief strategist. He's really the PR guy. He's the Goebbels of the administration.

1:02:03 Senior advisor to the president now of course received 1.5 million dollars in salary and partnership income from public affairs firms and he agreed to buyouts that will pay him another 3 million over five years. So that's current. I mean it's just crazy. Everyone's just making money. Everyone but us. Well of course, the armory, it's the way to go. It's the honest way to do it. It's just amazing. Dvorak.org slash NA. Anyway, a technical thing that that blew me away, and I don't know if it works in the states, but it's called the I plate and It's a it's literally a plate you put over your existing phone jack if you have ADSL And it can boost your ADSL connection by 60% the speed or throughput sounds like a scam well That's what I thought but BT is actually advising people to buy it it costs like 10 pounds and

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British Telecom I-Plate, ADSL Speed Optimization

The "I-Plate" is a device recommended by British Telecom to boost ADSL broadband speeds by isolating the "bell wire" in telephone jacks. The device aims to reduce interference and prevent auto-throttling on copper lines. One host expresses skepticism but plans to test the device to improve his home internet connection.

adsl· british telecom· i-plate· broadband· bell wire

1:03:00 And what it does is it isolates the bell wire. Because the way, I think the way at least British Telecom works, but maybe many ISPs with ADSL, is if you have like a crappy connection, because basically just phone lines, you know, copper wires, if it's crackly or whatever, there's an auto throttle that starts to kick in so that it tries to give you a continuous smooth performance. But if you apparently isolate the bell wire or whatever that is, that's probably... That's well, in the old systems you had three wires. You had a You know, just a regular positive negative and then you had the third wire which is I think green and it was it sent a huge voltage to ring the bell specifically. Right, that's like 40, 48 volts. That has been changed. Yeah, that now it's all twisted pair. You don't have a bell wire anymore in any system, at least in my neighborhood.

1:03:48 And but there used to be what was funny about the bell wire is really good shock from that if you were if you're like who you get a jolt Yeah, you could set some you know put it on somebody You know have somebody grab it and call the number and they get a ticket knocked on their ass. Hey, that's cool Do that often Johnny? It's DC. It's not gonna hurt anybody So I'm gonna order one who knows it might work. What do you need you have DSL? Well, okay because I probably which for 10 pounds, you know, yeah, how can you go wrong right now? I still can't get Virgin we did I don't even get me started on it I want to get that that 50 megabit service from from virgin but they can't seem to connect with them They keep promising to call me and then I call back and there's no one there. It's screwed. So somebody sent us a joke Okay

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Nancy Pelosi Saint Joke, Political Satire

A long-form joke submitted by a listener depicts House Speaker Nancy Pelosi attempting to be declared a "saint" by a Catholic Cardinal. The punchline suggests that while she has many flaws, she appears saintly only when compared to other prominent Democratic senators like Ted Kennedy and John Kerry.

nancy pelosi· catholic church· political humor· ted kennedy· harry reid

1:04:50 It's kind of a long joke, I'm reluctant, but I'll read it. This comes from Tracy Taylor. The joke has a title, it's almost a Shaggy Dog story, but not quite. On a Saturday afternoon, the joke is called St. Pelosi. On a Saturday afternoon in Washington, D.C., House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's aide visited the Cardinal of the Catholic Cathedral. He told the Cardinal that Nancy Pelosi would be attending the next day's sermon, and he asked if the Cardinal would kindly point out Pelosi to the congregation and say a few words that would include calling Pelosi a saint. The Cardinal replied, no, I don't really like the woman and there are issues of conflict with the Catholic Church over certain of Pelosi's views. Pelosi's aide then said, look,

1:05:32 Listen, let me be clear here. I'll write a check here and now for a donation of $100,000 to your church if you'll just tell the congregation you see Pelosi as a saint. Wait, this is a joke? You sure this is not an AP Newswire story? The Cardinal thought about it and said, well, the church can use the money, so I'll work your request into tomorrow's sermon. as Pelosi's aide promised, House Speaker Pelosi appeared for the Sunday sermon and seated herself prominently at the edge of the main aisle. And during the sermonist promise, the Cardinal pointed out that House Speaker Pelosi was president, then went on to explain to the congregation, quote, Speaker Pelosi's presence is probably an honor to some. She is not my favorite person. Some of her views are contrary to those of the church and she tends to flip-flop over many other views. Nancy Pelosi is a petty, self-absorbed hypocrite, a thumb-sucker, and a nitwit. Nancy Pelosi is also a serial liar, a cheat, and a thief. Nancy Pelosi is the worst example of a Catholic I have

1:06:28 personally witnessed she married for money and is using it to light of the American people she also has a reputation for shirking her representative obligations both in Washington and in California she is simply not to be trusted the Cardinal compete completed his view of Pelosi with but when compared to senators Ted Kennedy Harry Reid and John Kerry Nancy Pelosi is a saint kind of school long way that was worth it that was good I don't know I need shorter material. I'm not good with the long jokes. Send me shorter material. New research out of Spain suggests that THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, appears to prompt the death of brain cancer cells. They've been doing tests on mice and not just brain cancer cells, but they've modified these mice to have, you know, complete human properties, however that works.

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Marijuana Cancer Research, Industrial Hemp Legalization

New research from Spain indicates that THC may prompt the death of brain cancer cells in mice without affecting healthy cells. Simultaneously, Representatives Ron Paul and Barney Frank have introduced a bill to legalize industrial hemp. The hosts discuss the historical reasons for hemp's prohibition, citing competition with the paper industry and William Randolph Hearst's media campaigns.

thc· brain cancer· ron paul· barney frank· industrial hemp

1:07:21 They talk. Yeah, they're actually doing this show. And so they've been injecting THC into the active ingredient in marijuana and it is killing, and let me see the quote here, it appears to kill cancer cells while it does not affect normal cells. No wonder these guys outlawed that shit. The pharmaceutical industry and the entire cancer industry would crumble if we found out that marijuana actually cures cancer. Well, that would be interesting. I think this needs more looking into. And luckily, right on the heels of that, interesting combination. Talk about the odd couple. Congress and Ron Paul, but also Barney Frank, together introduced a bill to legalize industrial hemp, which is of course completely good. That should have been done years ago. Yeah, absolutely. There's so much that can be done with hemp, and particularly paper.

1:08:21 is a good one. Because that's why I cut out the first place. It's an amazing product and it's not of the, it's not, it doesn't produce a intoxicating bud. Which is kind of a bummer, but on the other hand, yeah, you can use it for a lot of stuff. And it should be legalized, it's crazy. Well they made it illegal, I don't know why they made it, I think they made it illegal because it's so hard to tell it and dust that hemp from the pot plant. I mean, it's the same plant, basically, but one is bred differently. Well, you know, the story, well, we've all seen the documentaries and as far as I can see, the reason it stopped is because, what's his face, the publisher, Hearst, he, all these Mexicans were competing with his paper mills and they were competing with hemp, using that for paper, and so then he started publishing in all his newspapers, these fucking Mexicans are whacked out on weed.

1:09:20 We got to get rid of both of them, get rid of the Mexicans and the weed. That's the way they used to do marketing back then. Crackpot Mexicans. But they still do marketing like this. I mean, it's the old, get the legislature to like pass a law. I was watching this thing on Great Scenic Railway Journeys. It was in a PBS special. They had a whole series of these and I loved riding old trains around. And I noticed that in a couple of places where this train wouldn't even exist anymore, some hot shots, some do-gooders went to the state legislature to have them pass certain kinds of laws to allow the train to take over these certain tracks and then get certain tax benefits. And that's the way marketing used to always be done, is you can get the state lawmakers to do stuff for you.

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Carlos Santana Marijuana Support, Spandau Ballet Reunion

Musician Carlos Santana has publicly voiced support for marijuana legalization, which the hosts find unsurprising given his 1960s roots. The conversation shifts to the reunion of the 80s band Spandau Ballet. They reflect on the longevity of certain rock and roll tracks and the "uncool" transition of New Wave bands over the decades.

carlos santana· marijuana· spandau ballet· 80s music· music industry

1:10:10 You know you can make you can make some change there and then Hearst was a master of it Someone's impersonating me at no agenda drop calm. It's funny. It's like AC says I'm baked Speaking of baked President Barack Obama brushed off a question about legalizing marijuana as online town hall last month, but now we have a new supporter who knew Carlos Santana smoked weed and But apparently he does. Wait a minute, wait, hold on a second. Are you telling me, you're not talking about the guitar player? Yes. Can you believe it? You're telling me that he smokes weed? He smoked weed? Holy shit. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Hold on, let me get a pencil. I'll send you the link, no worries. You can all find the link. Yeah, send me the link, because I find it hard to believe that a musician would actually be smoking weed.

1:11:04 Yeah, especially one from the 60s. You can find it at noagenda.mibio.com. By the way, I think that interlude thing I do, I think it's, I'm going to, not this next one, but the one after this, I'm going to do a tribute to Hawaii and the big island because I've noticed... Oh, good one. Because it has a certain hippie quality to these songs. I realize I'm thinking, geez, this stuff is a little too... It's like something you'd throw together in the late 60s for the big island. That's the whole point, John. That radio is no longer being made. There is no love for that. People aren't doing it.

1:11:44 When I'm producing this thing, I am thinking in those terms and saying, you know, people don't listen to this stuff anymore. They don't program it anymore. There's a lot of good material that's been forgotten that's still good. I mean, the thing that's interesting to me is that there's a lot of music from, and actually I go back to the late 50s with some of this stuff. From the late 50s on to the present, there's a lot of material that holds up. to an extreme. I mean you could listen to it as though it was done yesterday. Well but even take, recently Spandau Ballet announced that they were reforming and going back on the road and of course it's probably because they're broke and I'd support that. Regardless I think it's great that they're gonna go out on the road but when you think about it I was playing Musclebound from Spandau Ballet which is before True which was their big hit and then they got Gold and all those other songs and of course they became Uncool

1:12:39 I was playing that in 1982. So how long ago is that? It's like almost 30 years, man. Right. And it's amazing how much stuff holds up. And usually the stuff that holds up the best is just really good rock and roll. Oh yeah. I think I need to also automate the... Would it be cool if I could automate the no agenda chat so you could have different voices and it would just speak it for a little while? Because I just come in all the time like, I'm baked. I just popped a Vicodin. I'm baked. Puff puff pass. From Gitmo Nation South in Italy. And it's not been, I don't think it's started yet, but there's a huge uproar. Has Silvio Berlusconi who is of course completely licking at the taint of the world's elite.

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Italian Bus Segregation, Queen's Day Party in Amsterdam

Reports from Italy suggest the implementation of separate bus services for residents and immigrants under Silvio Berlusconi's administration. The hosts also discuss an upcoming "Queen's Day" trip to Amsterdam, where one host has secured access to an exclusive party titled "No Sex in the Champagne Room."

silvio berlusconi· italy· queens day· amsterdam· immigration

1:13:34 Now they have two types of bus service in Italy. There's the bus service if you are just visiting, i.e. an immigrant, or if you're a resident, you have to take a different bus service. Yeah, a little... that's funny. A little racism there, I guess. You think? You get in, this is not the bus for you. So they have to... I gotta talk to my sister about this. She'll give me the lowdown on that. She's so me go ahead go ahead. No, please no well I was gonna say that yeah, she she of course listened to the show willow who lives in in Italy and I will oh Yeah, she tells me all the time about all this crazy shit That's going on there. Our husband's also in the in the movie business now imagine in in Italy or movie and television and theater even you're either Hey, we need to get a bit part. Oh, that'll be easy. Oh, yeah. Oh, that'll be easy Well, we have to go to Italy

1:14:32 Not not to Italy But so you're either You either work for Berlusconi or you work for the other mob I mean, it's like there's no in-between and the way, you know You think movie deals and how their finance are weird in America. Oh, man. Italy is is awesome It's the fun. She has the funniest stories So, uh, Al, I can get us a bit part. Yeah, I need a bit part. I need to walk on. So, uh... Before I forget, I got you hooked up for Queen's Day. Are you going by yourself? Are you taking Mimi? No, no, there's a group that's... I'm going over there to visit a corporation. But no wives? It's Cone of Silence? Guys' Club? Yeah, Cone of Silence. No, yeah. No wives. I've got you into the hottest party of the entire Queen's Day. Huh.

1:15:23 And I'll just give you the title of the party, because I don't think anyone knows yet. The title of the party, so these parties have names. The name of this party is No Sex in the Champagne Room. Which is a callback to a Chris Rock diddy that he had on one of his... So I thought you'd appreciate that. Yeah, that's very funny. So those models I was hanging out with? Yeah. You'll be hanging out with them. Okay, good, and but you have to promise take pictures. Oh You're talking to me because I look like a goof in there with taking taking photos I'll bring the little rival little red camera. That's pretty easy to be so funny. It'll be like where's Waldo? I'll make sure to wear the red striped top This old guy doing here a hundred beautiful people John

CHAPTER 29 / 33 Discussion

French G20 Protests, Wine Terrorism in France

Violent protests in Strasbourg, France, during the G20 summit resulted in buildings being burned, though the events received limited media coverage compared to London. Additionally, a phenomenon known as "wine terrorism" has emerged, where French growers hijack tankers of cheap Spanish wine and drain them into sewers to protest market competition.

strasbourg· france· g20 protests· wine terrorism· trade disputes

1:16:22 No, man, you're beautiful. You're a beautiful person. Yeah, right. You're baked Yes, it's all true. So here's the deal So I'm there so now they've moved like the g20s over and they riot stopped and now they moved some some event to France and the French when they protest they burn down the place. Yes, so that well they went to Strasbourg which of course there's the bridge there between France and Germany. It's all the symbolic shit. They have a You know imagine having Washington DC and then having Colorado. You know that's kind of the same thing It's like that's where the government also meets so yeah And the French burned shit down. These guys are serious. There's this huge, huge building they just burned to the ground. But very little coverage of that. Nothing like the protests in London. I only saw, it's funny because they showed all those British protests here and there, but not with a lot of fanfare. But this thing was almost suppressed. Well where was Katie Couric? Wasn't she there? Weren't all the anchor men and women there?

1:17:21 I guess it wasn't on the list of things you can, you know, they are allowed to attend. Knowing that the French will go crazy. Yeah, you gotta love the French for that. You really do. There's a bunch of right now, I gotta get to the details on this, but right now there's a bunch of wine terrorism going on in France. What's that? Well, there's a group and they wear the masks and they hijack, they represent the wine growing areas of France and apparently a lot of cheap plonk is coming in from Spain and elsewhere to feed the French market and screw the French wine growers. And so they hijack these tankers

1:18:05 You know with you know strong arm I'm gonna pull them aside with you know I guess guns and throw the guy out of the tanker and then go drive it over to a sewer and then open the valves Wow Oh what a travesty Well, they're opening the valves of the Spanish wine they don't want in the country. Yeah, but still that's a travesty. The wine's probably not that good is my guess. Screw it. Screw their wine. Yeah, whatever. Screw the Spanish. They're not giving them the good stuff. But the French, of course, they are known, it's been a couple hundred years, but they are known for cutting people's heads off in public office. So I'm counting on them. Yeah, they do that. They do it. They definitely don't put up with a lot of crap the way the Brits do

CHAPTER 30 / 33 Discussion

North Korea Satellite Launch, Japanese Patriot Missiles

Disputes arise over North Korea's claim of a successful satellite launch, with the U.S. Defense Department stating the payload crashed into the ocean. Reports also suggest that some Patriot missiles deployed by Japan were actually non-functional "props" used for display. The hosts plan to investigate the validity of the "prop" missile claims.

north korea· satellite· patriot missiles· japan· defense department

1:18:50 But it was also noticeable, I'm looking at the front page of the Financial Times, Barack Obama and Nicolas Sarkozy and of course Michelle and the lovely Carla Bruni. And they're just standing in the middle of the street. You know, whenever Obama's anywhere else, where obviously where the fake show was going on, then there's a security and a million limos and now they're just on the street, just looking around. Hey, welcome to Strasbourg. Lost. Maybe they're holograms. Oh please. Nah. Well, anyway. Hey, um... We, uh, even though it is top of the real news, the space wars continue as North Korea, um... There's a dispute now. North Korea says it successfully launched their satellite into orbit. And, um... I believe the US Defense Department is saying, no, no, no, no, it didn't. The payload part crashed into the ocean, so, uh... They didn't make it.

1:19:49 And Japan had threatened to blow it out of the sky and then blow up North Korea, so none of that happened. Somebody sent us a note saying that the side of the Patriot missiles had stenciled on them, you know, inactive or not, you know, works. I forgot what the term was. But of course, the Japanese didn't see it because it was in English. Like a use-by date? No, is it these these were real these they had no warheads. I mean they were just duds They were like test you know bombs what the the North Koreans know the the Japanese the Japanese had a bunch of Patriots that were apparently just you know just Test props props props props. That's the word yeah, but it still had the stencil on the sink. You know basically prop Department of MGM prop department

1:20:39 You know, please return. If found. Ah yes. Okay. I have to dig that story up and post it. So when do you leave? You don't leave for a while. No, I leave first. Okay, we'll figure that out behind the scenes. I'm leaving on Wednesday morning. Right, but you're going up to Gitmo Nation Northwest. Right, and then I'll be back. But I'll be up there. I know you're going to be gone for Sunday too? Well, you know, if we're going on holiday and if we're only leaving Thursday, yeah, I hope to still be somewhere else with Sunday. But if I can do the Sunday show, no problem at all. I'm just saying, I'd rather do it on Wednesday because it's just kind of weird if we're, you know, first day of vacation and there's Dad setting the shit up. There he is, talking all that crazy crap. Yeah, I know what you mean. I think it's going to be more problematic when I'm in Amsterdam.

CHAPTER 31 / 33 Discussion

National Ignition Facility, Nuclear Fusion Research

The U.S. National Ignition Facility is using 192 giant lasers to attempt to trigger a nuclear fusion reaction in a hydrogen fuel pellet. Unlike fission, fusion does not produce long-lived radioactive waste but requires extreme heat that is difficult to contain. The hosts criticize the facility's name but acknowledge the potential of fusion as a revolutionary energy source.

national ignition facility· nuclear fusion· lasers· clean energy· physics

1:21:43 Well, it all depends on the, uh, do you know where you're staying? Uh, not yet. I do know, but I don't have it in front of me. Well, when you know, let me know, because I can find out about the broadband situation. But it would be cool if you could participate. And Sunday is the 2nd of May then, I think? First second no, maybe it's even the third. I don't know yeah, I'm leaving on this Saturday, and so I'll be there uh Probably to do I don't know we'll see we'll work it out, and then just finally last thing I have on my list Have you heard of the US National ignition facility? No, what is it? This is the American version of the Large Hadron Collider Although it appears to be something completely different But the lab will kick-start a reaction

1:22:38 to demonstrate nuclear fusion by focusing 192 giant laser beams on a tiny pellet of hydrogen fuel. This is probably a fusion experiment. They've been trying to do this since I was a kid, make nuclear fusion work as an energy source. What is the basic principle of nuclear fusion? It's that when you take and you, you know, with fission of course you have these atoms, they blow apart and then they produce energy. What do we have now? We have nuclear energy. What process is that? Fission, fission. That's just an explosion, just blow up shit. That's what it would be if it wasn't in the reactor. Right. But it just heats up and it boils the water and the water turns into a steam generator but it leaves a bunch of crap behind. With fusion where you fuse hydrogen together

1:23:37 You don't have radiation involved. You end up with some gas. But it creates even more heat. But unfortunately it creates so much that they haven't been able to control it. And that's why there's always this belief that maybe there's some way of doing cold fusion. It would be the solution to everything. It would be the energy source that would be amazing if it could ever be done. I'd and that's great, but I just don't like that name. I think it's a bad marketing fusion No, the United States National Ignition Facility, you know, it's like all right, you know, we're gonna ignite us Yeah, I know it doesn't sound good. It's a stupid name. I shouldn't have made it that they're idiots Anything else on your list Johnny boy? I'm done. I'm sure there's something on the list, but I can't you but I can't find the list

CHAPTER 32 / 33 Discussion

Madame Tussauds Wax Museum, Obama and Celebrity Figures

A visit to Madame Tussauds in London reveals changes in how wax figures are constructed and interacted with by the public. Modern figures, such as Barack Obama and Will Smith, feature flexible latex parts like "flappable ears" and are designed for photo opportunities. The hosts discuss the difficulty of creating accurate likenesses in an era of high-definition digital imagery.

madame tussauds· barack obama· wax museum· celebrity culture· london

1:24:31 We'll get to it next time. Which will be Wednesday or Thursday, we'll find out for sure later this week. So again, thank you for all of your donations for the No Agenda Armory. Don't forget to change the page, John. And of course, we have to keep the NA link in there. Right, devoreit.org slash NA. Right, but it stands for nothing... well, National Armory? No, it stands for No Agenda is what it stands for. I could say National Armory. It's not the National Armory. It's our private armory. Yeah. Yeah, we'll have a variety of guns and cold cuts. And meats. And meats. Guns and cold cuts. Patricia went to the Madame Tussauds? Oh yeah, there's supposed to be an Obama thing there that everybody is lining up to have their picture taken with. Well, it's funny because... There's the wax museum. Yeah, so the wax museum which is basically, it's kind of a...

1:25:35 It used to be only dignitaries and it was the thing you had, it was only in London at the time and now they're everywhere and now it's kind of like a Hard Rock Cafe vibe. But what they do is in each individual country, whoever is the hot TV star, singer, du jour, they have this honor bestowed upon them, which of course is only to get people to come to the museum. So it's like a self-fulfilling prophecy. But these wax figures that they're making have changed so drastically over the years. So the guy who's hosting Holland's Got Talent, the show that Patricia is a judge on, they're making a wax figure of him. And they do that at Madame Tussauds in London. So he came over and Patricia had lunch and then she went over to the museum. But all these figures now, Obama's ears, first of all you can touch them now. There was a time when you weren't allowed to touch them because they were really made of wax that could disintegrate. And now you can stand next to them, you can hold them, you can touch them. And Obama's ears are made of a kind of latex and you can wiggle them.

1:26:37 And yeah, it's funny and you can Brad Pitt his bum is squeezable was not it hung Of course you did she squeezed you squeezed it So how come she doesn't have a wax figure? Oh God? You know if I could buy her one I'd do that because of course it's frustrating of course. She should have one She should have multiple So what's the... have you gone there and looked at these images? Because most of them don't even look like the person. No, they're pretty bad. I think in general they're pretty poor.

1:27:16 Some of them look okay, you know, but we have so much imagery these days you can imagine where 20 years ago or 30 years ago, you know, you saw a picture from time to time of someone but we there was no internet and now you know We know exactly what people look like who are famous in it We look like what they look like in the morning when they look like shit when they know their makeup on we know their cellulite You know all of that and so that automatically makes it tougher. Hmm Alright, well, I'm going to visit it next time I'm in town. I gotta get to London. I think now's the time to go. Well, let's just try and coordinate so I don't have a board meeting when you come over. Hey!

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Show Sign-off, Contact Information

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak conclude the episode from their respective locations in London and Silicon Valley. They remind listeners of the show's website and promise a follow-up episode later in the week. The program ends with the standard "No Agenda" sign-off.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· no agenda· gitmo nation· podcasting

1:27:56 You know, you don't need to bring up the fact that the idea of the Queen's Day visit was not mine. Yeah, yeah, what did you say, hon? I wanted to say, uh, Will Smith's ears are flappable. Oh, I thought, no, I thought it was, uh, Obama's ears. No, uh, Will Smith's, but they're gonna do, uh, the next nude, uh, figures are gonna have flappable ears. So people will, because people... Oh, I thought it was Obama, it was Will Smith, the same guy. Will Smith, have you seen? It's the same mold. Same mold. All right. On that note, in the Crackpot Command Center in the southwest quadrant of Gitmo Nation East, I'm Adam Curry. And here from Silicon Valley North, also Gitmo Nation West, I'm doing dual service here, I'm John C. Dvorak. And we will talk to you again sometime this week.

1:28:47 On no agenda.